LGBT creators Leo Sepi, Jeffree Star, and Blaire White are openly introducing Christian themes to their audiences, sparking major conversation across online culture. This episode also examines the growing feud between Erika Kirk and Candace Owens, the claims driving their conflict, and why their dispute is becoming a defining flashpoint in conservative media.
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Brazil just put that in the city of the city. | |
| Brazil, just put that Brizzle, | ||
| just put that verse in the chat. | ||
| Let me read it out loud to you guys. | ||
| John 15:18-19 says, Jesus's followers should not be surprised if the world hates them, because the world hated Jesus first. | ||
| The world would love believers if they were a part of it, but because they belong to Jesus and they have been chosen out of the world, the world rejects and opposes them. | ||
| This opposition is a sign of their connection to Christ. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Are you kidding me right now? | ||
| Amen. | ||
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That was so powerful. | |
| I need to just go have a second alone. | ||
| I'll be five seconds. | ||
| That was so powerful. | ||
| Brizzle. | ||
| He's gone. | ||
| Jesus, apparently. | ||
| Guys, something very interesting is happening right now where we are seeing a bunch of pretty big influencers: Jeffree Star, Leo Skeppi, who I actually had not heard of until recently. | ||
| He's based in Florida. | ||
| And Blair White, who's actually a conservative commentator who is also trans, ironically. | ||
| But all of these people are now beginning to speak about Jesus to their audience. | ||
| And I have some opinions about that. | ||
| I know our guests have some opinions about that as well. | ||
| So let's go ahead and introduce you guys. | ||
| We have Daniel over there on the ones and twos. | ||
| What's up, Danny? | ||
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Hey, what's up, everybody? | |
| Excited to be here. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Incredible. | ||
| And then we have Sarah Stock. | ||
| Now, Sarah, my former producer, we're still learning the soundball, guys. | ||
| My former producer wanted me to give you props for absolutely destroying Sam Cedar in a Jubilee debate, I believe. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Incredible stuff. | ||
| And I actually came to know you when we covered the story on the absolutely deranged MAGA civil war that erupted over engagement ring size. | ||
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Yes. | |
| We also covered that. | ||
| That's the two things I'm most known for. | ||
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Love it. | |
| Incredible. | ||
| Well, we covered that story as well. | ||
| Obviously, we were Team Sarah all the way on that one, but I'm stoked to have you on the show. | ||
| For anyone who isn't familiar with you, do you want to just give a little bit of background about yourself? | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| So I've been involved in conservative politics for a few years now. | ||
| Some of it was behind the scenes and some of it was just like activism on my college campus. | ||
| Now I'm graduated from college pretty much this week and I'm getting married in like a month and kind of just making content and chilling. | ||
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I'm not really doing that much these days, but incredible. | |
| I mean, hey, you're living the dream though. | ||
| I mean, you're literally doing what we talk about in this space when we talk about, you know, the perils of feminism and how people need to be getting married and they need to be having as many babies as possible. | ||
| It seems like you're literally doing, you know, you're putting your money where your mouth is. | ||
| You're doing what you talk about. | ||
| And you're only 22 years old, if I'm not mistaken. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| 22. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| And you've been politically active, though, for a while. | ||
| And I believe you were just telling me before the show started, you even started your own turning point chapter. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I actually started a Turning Point USA chapter at my college. | ||
| Vanguard University is like a private Christian school. | ||
| Unfortunately, this semester, they actually shut down the chapter. | ||
| They made some new roles surrounding political activism on campus. | ||
| And it's a private school so they can kind of do that. | ||
| And yeah, it's very unfortunate. | ||
| There's actually been like a few stories about Fox News and stuff this week about my school specifically. | ||
| The chapter president there has been speaking out about it and everything. | ||
| So it's kind of been this whole drama this past week, which is funny. | ||
| But wow. | ||
| Well, on that note, I'm actually, I'm kind of excited to get your insight. | ||
| I know that one of the topics that you want to cover tonight is this escalating rift between Candace Owens and Turning Point USA. | ||
| And obviously, Erica Kirk has now come out and she's had some very choice words for Candace. | ||
| So I'm looking forward to, you know, breaking all of that down with you a little bit later in the show. | ||
| And then, guys, at the end of the show, we are going to be addressing some of your questions. | ||
| I feel like I've basically kind of made my point clear on, you know, what's happened, what's transpired over the period of the last month, what has led me to going independent. | ||
| But we have persistently had a bunch of questions over the last two shows. | ||
| So if you guys wait till the end of the episode, we will be answering all of those. | ||
| Plus, if you have any questions yourself for me, Sarah, any of the topics that are discussed today, you can also send us a super chat or you can just go ahead and ask a question. | ||
| Danny, go ahead and open like a QA box or something like that. | ||
| Obviously, super chats will have, you know, first read. | ||
| But without further ado, guys, let's go ahead and get into it. | ||
| Like I said, something very interesting is happening right now. | ||
| God is moving in very, very unexpected ways. | ||
| Obviously, we just watched that video of Jeffree Star. | ||
| I'd like to pull up the next one of this guy, Leo Skeppy, who is a huge influencer out of Miami. | ||
| And how I actually found his content randomly on my For You page was he was kind of giving his own interpretation. | ||
| I wouldn't call it a Bible study. | ||
| He's not intending to, you know, be some type of a teacher or somebody who is giving advice. | ||
| In fact, he's asking for it. | ||
| He is picking up a Bible for the first time in his entire life. | ||
| He's reading through it and he has a lot of questions and he's directing them towards his audience. | ||
| I think it's actually been pretty interesting to witness so far. | ||
| To give you guys an idea of what I'm talking about, let's go ahead and pull up this clip, please. | ||
| I read like last week, and it's finally connecting and it's changed my sexual attraction. | ||
| I never talk about sex. | ||
| I don't like to sexualize myself online at all. | ||
| I don't usually talk about this, but basically there's a portion that talks about calling people fucking worthless. | ||
| Like, it's not good to call people worthless. | ||
| To like use your ego and kind of judge them like that. | ||
| Like, yeah, you worthless piece of shit. | ||
| I've been saying it all the time. | ||
| It says it's not good to do that and call people worthless because it dehumanizes them. | ||
| That's what's wrong with that. | ||
| People are not worthless. | ||
| A lot of people act worthless because they're so out of alignment with themselves. | ||
| They do a lot of things around. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, you could croak and I wouldn't care. | ||
| But the issue that's highlighted in the Bai Deal is dehumanization. | ||
| And then I read the part about looking at people for sexual pleasure and just basically dehumanizing them and objectifying them. | ||
| And it's still dramatic. | ||
| It talks about if your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. | ||
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I love it. | |
| The drama. | ||
| Theatrics. | ||
| But to dumb it down, what I've learned is Christ is about connection and Satan is about disconnection. | ||
| Now, the way that it's kind of changed things for me, I've been celibate for the past two years. | ||
| Two years and a week today, December 7th. | ||
| But I'm not into the casual hookup scene. | ||
| I don't like that shit. | ||
| I don't like people touching me. | ||
| You don't get to get access to me. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| I don't like that energetic exchange. | ||
| I don't like anything to do with it. | ||
| I don't like easy access for myself. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| If you're like that, more power to you. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Have fun. | ||
| I've had phases when I was younger where I would do it, but two years, celibate. | ||
| And this, or since reading this, it's like I consumed it. | ||
| My brain understood it. | ||
| And then I noticed I have zero desire for corn. | ||
| Like I'm not turned on by it. | ||
| He don't want shit to do with it. | ||
| Like what I used to find attractive in guys is not attractive anymore. | ||
| There's a lot of like power dynamics. | ||
| And since I repaired my relationship to my sense of power and self-respect and self-value, what I'm attracted to has changed because sexual desires are how you play out certain power dynamics. | ||
| And a lot of trauma and childhood shit has been coming up that I've been working through. | ||
| And it's all making sense. | ||
| But anything to do with dehumanization and disconnection, I'm no longer aroused by. | ||
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All right. | |
| So this has been. | ||
| So obviously, guys, that is the longer clip. | ||
| And Danny was joking and saying, what? | ||
| Do a lot of these gays like, like, how debased are they? | ||
| Are they just doing all of these, you know, dehumanization things? | ||
| And, you know, you do see that depicted stereotypically with like gay porn and that stereotype. | ||
| But honestly, it's not just the gays. | ||
| Like, this is a thing that is now becoming more and more common with OnlyFans, the objectification of women. | ||
| Before I go any further on my points, Sarah, I'm really interested to know. | ||
| You're a Christian. | ||
| What is your perspective on all of this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, obviously it's a positive development. | ||
| I mean, these people have like so many gays and trans people and feminists following them and that sort of thing. | ||
| If they're able to come out, I mean, the thing where I'm kind of worried about it is like, I don't want these people to turn into sort of like spiritual leaders or influencers or whatever. | ||
| It's like you've, so like, that's why I'm kind of like approaching it with caution of like, I don't really want people who have been living a degenerate lifestyle promoting all of these negative, sinful things for years onto their audiences to suddenly turn around and be like, I'm the one who defines what the Bible says or whatever. | ||
| I think we do need to be really careful about that. | ||
| But at the same time, I think if these people are just sharing their own personal experiences and saying, Look, I think there might actually be something to Christianity. | ||
| I think that this lust has been harmful to my life. | ||
| I think that the Bible's right about the relationship between men and women and what marriage really is. | ||
| I mean, I don't really know. | ||
| I don't think you can complain about that. | ||
| I think that's a totally positive thing. | ||
| I just don't want them to try to redefine Christianity in this liberal way that isn't what it actually is. | ||
| I completely, real quick, Danny, and then we'll go to you. | ||
| I completely agree with that. | ||
| I mean, I even see that from Protestant forms of Christianity. | ||
| Like, I don't, I don't like the way that women pastors are even platformed. | ||
| So, I understand what you're saying. | ||
| Obviously, we need to be very wary of who we see as like an actual spiritual teacher, right? | ||
| But also, to your point, when you have influences that are just talking about their lives anyway, and this is something that's genuinely on their heart and mind, and they're sharing that with their audience, like maybe their audience wouldn't have had the chance to meet Jesus in any other way if it wasn't from that. | ||
| And sometimes it takes policing from the inside, right? | ||
| And that's why they say that, like, for women, it's it's more well received, right? | ||
| And it's more palatable when a woman is speaking out about feminism and the destruction of the modern family versus a man speaking to a woman, right? | ||
| Um, and we could use many such examples when it comes to various different groups. | ||
| But, Danny, what are your thoughts on all of this? | ||
| I think I love to see the Holy Spirit moving in these people because I actually have my own kind of personal testimony about this stuff. | ||
| My sister, she uh was living an LGBTQ plus lifestyle for about seven years, even in hedle school. | ||
| And uh, wow, yeah, so really young, yeah, oh, oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, a lot of these kids feel the identity young, and I mean, she was right, it's a social contagion nowadays as well, it's it's rampant, but but back then, like back then, I feel like school wasn't even as woke, no, you know, it's even worse today. | ||
| From how my sister describes it, she was saying that like she played a lot of sports and guys weren't necessarily into her, and women showed her affection and attention and all of this stuff. | ||
| So, and then she got wrapped up in the LGBTQ crowd that told her that it was her identity and that she was born his way, and she believed this. | ||
| And I met this gentleman at Chick-fil-A, his name was Chick-fil-A, the Christian chicken, the Christian chicken, yes, he actually worked there and he came off very gay. | ||
| We were just chatting, and he was telling me his testimony about how he was living the LGBTQ plus lifestyle, and then Jesus saved him, and he converted to being straight. | ||
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Oh, and I was like, Whoa, converted to Christianity and converted to the puss. | |
| No, just kidding. | ||
| Well, that's a way to put it. | ||
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No, but uh, sorry, so then I was like, We make jokes here, sorry, Sarah. | |
| I'm just tricky. | ||
| So, so then I was like, You should talk with my sister. | ||
| So, I went out with all three of them, or all three of us went out to eat. | ||
| We had a great meal. | ||
| I said, Why don't you tell her what you just told me? | ||
| They talked, and she started crying. | ||
| And she's like, Oh my gosh, like this is a choice. | ||
| Like, I get to choose this. | ||
| And it definitely opened up my mind and heart because a lot of Gen Z guys specifically, I think, view being homosexual, homosexual activity as a worse sin. | ||
| And what I've come to realize, just like any sin, whether it's watching pornography or even having sex outside of marriage as a straight man, it's all falling under the same umbrella, and you can all choose out of it. | ||
| The same way that the Holy Spirit can convict you and give you the power to not watch porn, they can do the same thing for the LGBTQ. | ||
| So, I personally love to see this stuff, but along Sarah's note, it makes sense because you see a lot of these churches popping up with the pride flag out front and with the woman pastor and their transgender. | ||
| Yeah, we can't, we can't have that. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| On that note, Sarah, I would love to hear more about your thoughts on that specifically. | ||
| What do you feel about these more modern churches, right? | ||
| Um, um, have you ever encountered anything like this personally? | ||
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And what's your take on it? | |
| Oh, yeah, I mean, that's everywhere, and that's sort of a byproduct. | ||
| People are going to get mad at me for saying this, but that's sort of a byproduct of Protestantism because people, when they believe in sola scriptura, that's like, well, I guess you can interpret the Bible however you want, and then you can look at these verses about man shall not lie with man and say, Well, I think this was about pedophilia, not gay people, and like that sort of thing. | ||
| And that's what they end up doing because they don't really have a church authority. | ||
| And so, people are able to twist the twist the words of scripture however they want. | ||
| And so, that's I mean, that's like one of the reasons why I became Catholic because they have solid doctrine over the past 2,000 years and these sorts of things. | ||
| So, you don't have to ask about it, you don't have to wonder. | ||
| That's one of the things I really like about being Catholic. | ||
| But, yeah, it is really demonic, honestly. | ||
| A lot of this LGBT stuff in the churches, it's obviously an inversion, same with the women pastors and that sort of thing. | ||
| But you give these people an inch and they take a mile, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, it's not, it's not really surprising that we ended up like this. | ||
| I agree 100%. | ||
| All right, let's move on to the final clip that we have. | ||
| We're going to talk a little bit about Blair White, who, like I said, she is a little bit of a walking contradiction because she is, and I say she, and by the way, I get a lot of flack for saying she, but it's like what my brain naturally perceives. | ||
| Here's actually a story about how I found Blair White's content. | ||
| I'm not sure if you guys remember this, but there was like a scandal with Balenciaga where they were using children for their ad campaign, sexualizing children. | ||
| And even behind them in the photo shoot, there was like child sex material documents and books behind in the photo shoot. | ||
| Like the subliminal programming would not have been any more brazen, it was disgusting. | ||
| And I actually found Blair White before I was even really on YouTube. | ||
| Like, I didn't even really used to watch YouTube going back to the early 2020s and before that. | ||
| But I found a video of Blair breaking down that scandal and how messed up it was and exactly what was going on. | ||
| I was like, wow, this was really, really informative. | ||
| And then I clicked on another video. | ||
| It was a political breakdown of Trump versus Biden. | ||
| And I was like, wow, this is super informative. | ||
| Let me go to another video. | ||
| And then the next video was actually about the topic of trans. | ||
| And it was only halfway through the video. | ||
| I was agreeing with everything Blair said. | ||
| And then Blair said, as a trans person. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
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Hold up guys Where It's not intentional Alright Really nice, peaceful background. | |
| I kind of like that background. | ||
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I kind of like it. | |
| I feel like we're really peaceful. | ||
| We're like in the Hobbit or something. | ||
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That was so silly. | |
| Guys, by the way, while we're fixing the text stuff, can we make sure that my audio is fine? | ||
| Yes, your audio is great. | ||
| You sound great. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| People are saying that I'm way louder. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with it. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| That's what they're saying. | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| Maybe turn. | ||
| Maybe you should turn mine down a little bit. | ||
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Wait, they're saying turn it all up. | |
| Turn us up and leave. | ||
| No, people are saying someone says Sarah's at 80% and Amy is at 45%. | ||
| So I think I need to be turned down. | ||
| So turn mine up or turn hers down. | ||
| I mean, hey, look, I'm looking at the levels. | ||
| Everything looks fine. | ||
| Anyway, no, but listen to chat. | ||
| Like, chat knows. | ||
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So just try to adjust. | |
| They're all commenting about it. | ||
| I think just turn mine down a bit. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I don't want to be yelling at people's ears. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Hopefully that's better, guys. | ||
| Let us know. | ||
| But as I was saying, so Blair, third video, found out Blair was trans, was entirely shocked. | ||
| And honestly, prior to this, I will admit, you know, as Christians, we should be able to, you know, disavow and denounce things, but I feel like we also shouldn't hold hate in our heart. | ||
| There's a difference between righteous anger and hate. | ||
| And I think I had really developed a hate for the trans community and the way that they were indoctrinating children. | ||
| And just, you know, they had such a psy up going for such a long period of time that even like, you know, an ugly dude in a party city wig could walk into a woman's bathroom and feel entitled. | ||
| And I hated that. | ||
| I genuinely hated it. | ||
| And as a result, I felt like I did have hate in my heart for transgender people. | ||
| So when Blair said, as a trans person, one, I was shocked. | ||
| I didn't even believe it. | ||
| I like then went and did research and realized, yes, this is actually a trans person. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| For reference, this is what he, she looks like. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so it kind of broke this hypnotic spell that I was under that all trans people are inherently evil or are inherently bad. | ||
| This is someone who just gave me so much value in three different videos on, you know, various different cultural and political topics. | ||
| And so I did become a fan somewhat. | ||
| And literally, since I started watching Blair, I have actually been praying that Blair would come to know Christ because you see these people who are such warriors for the truth. | ||
| Like they're willing to give the controversial opinions, even to their own detriment, even if it means being attacked from their own base or their own group, their own tribalistic, whatever it is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so when I see people like that, I and they don't know Jesus, I pray for them that if they're this much of a truth seeker, I pray that you come to know the whole truth, the real truth. | ||
| And, you know, it's insane to think what those people will be able to accomplish once they have that missing piece, right? | ||
| Which is honestly everything. | ||
| So I've been praying for Blair. | ||
| And then we did see this video that Blair dropped recently. | ||
| So let's go ahead and play this. | ||
| Do you ever consider detransitioning so you can be as God intended you to be? | ||
| So that's an excellent question. | ||
| And I'm glad you made it because I would have maybe forgot to talk about that. | ||
| There are people, obviously, when you look at like people who are ex-gay Christians, who the way that they feel compelled to go forward when they find God or meet God is they're living a lifestyle like they're not gay anymore. | ||
| They used to be gay and they're not. | ||
| They're refraining from being gay. | ||
| I've seen a couple of detransitioners who found God and that helped them in that. | ||
| And then they, you know, detransitioned and all of that. | ||
| And so all that is valid. | ||
| If that's how you feel, you know, called or what you're supposed to do or that's your life, right? | ||
| But this is mine. | ||
| And I have not felt any calling or compulsion to detransition or radically change how I look or any of that because I realized that, again, to me, the story of Jesus is that he transcended flesh. | ||
| And what is all of this, if not just how I've altered my flesh? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| This is so twisted. | ||
| Do we even want to play the rest of this? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Just tell us your thoughts. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When you get the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit convicts you. | ||
| And when you read the word, this is the word of God. | ||
| It tells you how God operates and what the integrity of the universe is. | ||
| And a part of that is gender identity. | ||
| It's actually a way bigger part than a lot of people give it credit for when he created Adam and Eve. | ||
| It's very, very particular. | ||
| It's very, very specific on what a holy matrimony looks like. | ||
| So I think for him to say that, like, oh, no, it's good for other gays and other trans to feel convicted, but I don't. | ||
| Look, it's all a journey. | ||
| They'll get convicted at different times. | ||
| But with this, with the trans thing, it's specifically like, it's a lifestyle. | ||
| It's not necessarily like a sin that you're wrestling with. | ||
| And then you do it. | ||
| And then, and then you go, God, I repent. | ||
| And then you are leaning into the Holy Spirit. | ||
| This is an everyday, all-day choice. | ||
| And a lot of people have kind of, you know, backed up what you're saying here. | ||
| I think we have a tweet. | ||
| I'm not sure if you can pull that up. | ||
| It seemed to be the general consensus around this topic. | ||
| This was a very controversial video. | ||
| We're reacting to it a little bit late. | ||
| This was like a month ago, because obviously we're reacting to it on top of the more relevant Leo and Jeffree Star videos. | ||
| But I think it's an important topic. | ||
| So let's go ahead and take a look at what this tweet says. | ||
| If you could read it, Danny. | ||
| So this person, this got a lot of engagement saying, yeah, I hear this a lot. | ||
| I'm gay and I'm Christian or I'm trans and I'm Christian. | ||
| Well, no, you're not. | ||
| I'm sorry, but you're just not. | ||
| It's like saying I'm a serial killer in Christian or I'm a Christian pedophile or I'm having a long time affair and I'm a Christian. | ||
| It's all unrepentant sin. | ||
| In each of those cases, the person goes to bed each night with no remorse for their sins and continuing in their sin the next day. | ||
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Sarah, thoughts? | |
| Yeah, it's like sin literally separates you from God. | ||
| So, I mean, I don't know how you can say that you're growing your relationship with God when you're like actively sinning. | ||
| And maybe this, I want to give Blair the benefit of the doubt, I guess, and say, well, maybe like in the most charitable way, maybe Blair is just confused. | ||
| It doesn't like no one's told him yet that it's wrong. | ||
| Or I don't know why he hasn't figured that out. | ||
| But yeah, he's obviously living against the nature that God wanted for him. | ||
| He's like literally participating in delusion. | ||
| And also it's very subversive, honestly. | ||
| Like this is what I meant when I was like, I mean, I want these people to come to Christ, but I don't want them to be speaking as some sort of authority on these issues because it's like, you are actively still perpetuating this lifestyle. | ||
| And actively, I think subverting the conservative movement. | ||
| And like all these people have been saying, they always point to Blair White and say, see, you can be trans and conservative. | ||
| And I see that as a bad thing. | ||
| I know some people think that's a good thing. | ||
| I don't think it is. | ||
| I think it's just like, you know, it's, it's really just like subverting, subverting everything. | ||
| And then now if he's going to do the same thing with Christianity, I don't like that at all. | ||
| I hope that he's just, he's not like knowledgeable that he's doing this and that he's in the dark, but he really does need to come to terms with the fact that he is living a sin, like a very sinful lifestyle. | ||
| I will concur with much of what was said. | ||
| However, I do want to also play devil's advocate and say that like the conservative movement and specifically those who are conservative typically lean towards Christianity, or at least that's what they proclaim publicly, right? | ||
| We have a reputation in the conservative movement of a lot of degeneracy that happens behind the scenes because it is not something that obviously they can put a public face on. | ||
| And, you know, plenty of people have been exposed throughout the years. | ||
| I'm just struggling to think of anybody who hasn't gone through a day of their life without sinning. | ||
| And to play devil's advocate, I do have respect for somebody who can admit their faults and shortcomings. | ||
| Not saying that that's what Blair's doing because obviously Blair doesn't see any error with Blair's behavior, but Blair is public and upfront about being trans and also now apparently a Christian. | ||
| I think that's a little bit different, maybe, to people who claim to be a Christian publicly and then are engaging in sneaky homosexual behavior behind the scenes or drugs or whatever it may be. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, my point that where I get a little bit confused, right, is, you know, I've been to churches where, for example, the priest is fat. | ||
| The pastor's fat. | ||
| And I get that sexual sins are different than the other seven deadly sins, right? | ||
| Glottedy, maybe we can weight some of those a little bit differently, depending on which denomination that you're from. | ||
| But how do you like differentiate? | ||
| Aren't we all sinners? | ||
| And from my being the most charitable that I absolutely can be, I know that when I first genuinely had my first encounter with Christ, it wasn't like, you know, I was baptized Catholic. | ||
| I grew up in the Catholic Church, but I had my first real encounter with Jesus Christ when I was completely by myself all alone in 2019. | ||
| And Christ started to convict me on different things following that. | ||
| They say that, you know, I mean, I don't think this is biblical, but God won't give you anything more than what you can handle. | ||
| And so, and so maybe it's like inching forward, right? | ||
| And convicting you on one step at a time to eventually convict you on something that you can handle. | ||
| Sometimes it happens all at once. | ||
| Sometimes it is a little bit more gradual, but you know them by their fruit. | ||
| And in this case, when you're living an LGBTQ plus lifestyle, if you're doing hard drugs, if you are. | ||
| What about if you're eating McDonald's and you're fat? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Gluttony is a real yes. | ||
| So should they like shut down their church until they lose weight? | ||
| You mean the pastor? | ||
| Yeah, the priest, the pastor, whoever. | ||
| At the very least, honestly, it's not really priests. | ||
| It's pastors. | ||
| Priests aren't really fat. | ||
| Well, I've seen some fat priests. | ||
| Not as many. | ||
| Well, I think it is. | ||
| I think the confusion is like a lot of people do try to claim that all sins are equal. | ||
| And I don't believe that. | ||
| I mean, I think there's a huge difference between, for instance, like constantly living in sexual sin. | ||
| Like if it's, if you're living a transgender lifestyle, you are literally actively sinning every second of the day that you are living that. | ||
| Whereas some people might struggle specific sins. | ||
| They're trying their best to turn to God to repent of their sins. | ||
| And maybe they're still battling that. | ||
| But it's, I just think there's a difference between actively living this lifestyle while being a voice for or like claiming to be some voice for Christianity or some authority on like what Christianity is. | ||
| That's where you start to confuse people. | ||
| And if you have an audience, then these people, which, yeah, same thing if you're a pastor. | ||
| And I mean, I agree. | ||
| I think, I don't think fat people should be pastors. | ||
| Like if you have a health issue, that's one thing. | ||
| But don't be struggling with some sin like gluttony and then come up and lecture other people about their sins. | ||
| I just think there's like a huge difference between actively living a sinful lifestyle, which these LGBT sins are like, I refuse to agree that sleeping, if you're a man, sleeping with a man is the same thing as sleeping with a woman outside of marriage. | ||
| Sleeping with a woman outside of marriage, it's still wrong. | ||
| It's still fornication, still a sin. | ||
| Homosexuality, yes, it's worse. | ||
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What do you think? | |
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| It's disordered. | ||
| It's worse. | ||
| Where is that back though? | ||
| The early church from the world. | ||
| And I just want to say, but Sarah. | ||
| Because it's disordered. | ||
| Yeah, I understand. | ||
| I want to give you the floor. | ||
| Let me just say, I'm in no way or any, no way, shape, or form judging. | ||
| I am so far from a perfect human being. | ||
| This relationship that I'm in right now is the very first one that we are abstaining from sex until marriage. | ||
| I am, you know, I was never an overly promiscuous person, but I did have sex in long-term committed relationships, right? | ||
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This is the first time I've ever beaten this type of situation. | |
| And I think that people can learn and they can grow. | ||
| But please elaborate on what you were saying before. | ||
| I just, I think it was really important for me to weigh in there and say, like, as we're talking about the weight of like mortal sins and sexual sins, that I just want to make it very clear to my audience that I am in no way holding myself up on a pedestal. | ||
| In fact, it's probably the opposite. | ||
| So, yeah, Sarah, please elaborate on your thoughts. | ||
| I'm not putting myself on a pedestal either. | ||
| I'm assuming you are as well. | ||
| I'm so sorry if that came out that way. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| And I wasn't, I wasn't thinking you were saying that, but I'm not doing that either. | ||
| I am literally just like separating, you know, people from the sins they commit, but still being able to look at it and say, yeah, some sins are worse than others. | ||
| If you are, there's a difference between slipping up with a sin that you struggle with and actively perpetuating a sinful lifestyle. | ||
| I think those are two different things because that's you're sort of living in unrepentance at that point. | ||
| So, yeah, I mean, there's the stuff that the, if you read the stuff that the early church fathers wrote about homosexuality, they're, they're saying like homosexuality is so, so evil and disordered, we don't even want to write what it is. | ||
| Like, that's what they're saying about it. | ||
| Like, that's literally what they're saying. | ||
| So, I mean, it's because it's against nature, right? | ||
| So, that's, I think that's why, because, yeah, it's like, it's wrong. | ||
| It's against natural law. | ||
| Yes, it's wrong for a man or woman to fornicate and have sex outside of marriage, but it's also worse if it's a man-to-man. | ||
| That's that's the way I see it. | ||
| I feel Danny, it seemed like you wanted to also elaborate and comment on that. | ||
| Any thoughts? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think I look, I agree with you in a lot of ways. | ||
| Uh, my personal opinion, I agree with you. | ||
| I just don't think it's biblical. | ||
| I think that if I it, I think it states pretty clearly in the word that all sins are kind of weighed equally to the degree of even if you look at a woman with lust, it's like cheating. | ||
| So, in that capacity, you know, I think God views it all the same. | ||
| That's why we're all able to be saved by grace through faith. | ||
| I think it's a beautiful thing. | ||
| I'm personally happy to see a lot of these people come over. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| You know them by their fruit. | ||
| And, like with you finding God in 2019, 2019 version of you versus the version that you are now are two very different people. | ||
| And you can see the it's insane. | ||
| Like, yeah, no, I feel that. | ||
| But also, I do want to say, as someone who watches Blair's content, Blair is being convicted on things. | ||
| Blair said that they are convicted on swearing. | ||
| So, no longer cursing and also telling that gay people that they can still fuck. | ||
| Hey, it seems like swearing, but yeah, stop cursing. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| Hey, sometimes it takes baby steps. | ||
| Honestly, sometimes it does. | ||
| And it kind of did for me. | ||
| And that's why I'm giving a little bit more grace, maybe than the average person. | ||
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| So now, without further ado, we're going to now transition topics and we're going to talk about this beef that has been going down between Turning Point USA and Candace Owens, but most recently has come to a head because Erica Kirk for the first time is breaking her silence and not calling out Candace directly, but we know exactly who she is referring to just by virtue of how she's framing it. | ||
| Danny, do you have a clip for us that you can? | ||
| Let's play the clip. | ||
| Let's play the clip. | ||
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Amazing. | |
| You know, I have to say it. | ||
| I've never seen you like this. | ||
| No, I'm very, this is righteous anger because this is not okay. | ||
| It's not healthy. | ||
| This is a mind virus. | ||
| Yes, I believe in our judicial system. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| We have a hell of a team working on this. | ||
| Excuse my French. | ||
| But this is not okay. | ||
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So you want to put these people back in the box where they've been creeping from. | |
| I don't care what box you're in. | ||
| But just know that your words are very powerful and we are human. | ||
| My team are not machines and they're not robots. | ||
| They are human. | ||
| We have more death threats on our team and our side than I have ever seen. | ||
| I have kidnapping threats. | ||
| I have, you name it, we have it. | ||
| And my poor team is exhausted. | ||
| And every time they bring this back up, what are we supposed to do? | ||
| Relive that trauma all over again? | ||
| They watched my husband get murdered. | ||
| I have no idea how I would have reacted if I was there that day. | ||
| And thank the good Lord that I did not have to see that happen. | ||
| But my team, they are rocked to the core. | ||
| So why every single day do they have to be dragged through the mud, analyzed, hyper-analyzed? | ||
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You know, sit in the corner. | |
| Yeah, that's actually very fair. | ||
| I, I, when I first heard this, I concurred with everything that she said. | ||
| I don't even necessarily look. | ||
| Candace seems to think this is all about her, that everything's about her. | ||
| She even says in this Instagram story, can I play it? | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Here. | |
| Here we go. | ||
| Okay, super fun show today. | ||
| You're probably seeing the clips, but Erica has gone off on conspiracy theorists. | ||
| Obviously, every journalist out there is emailing me because it's about me. | ||
| It's indirect, but it's also about me. | ||
| And don't worry in case you think it's not about me. | ||
| She is going to name check me on stage with Barry Weiss on Saturday. | ||
| How do we know? | ||
| Because our mommy sleuths be everywhere. | ||
| And they recorded the town hall today. | ||
| And as soon as the town hall concluded, we got a flutter of emails. | ||
| And what she says about the Egyptian planes, I'm sorry, not gonna lie, it's a little suspicious. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's a weird response. | ||
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So look. | |
| All right, Sarah, let's go to you. | ||
| I know you have a lot of thoughts about this. | ||
| I've been seeing you probably so all day. | ||
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Let's get into it. | |
| Sorry, I'm like so triggered now. | ||
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Every time I hear her talk, I need to calm down. | |
| But she's just been pissing me off so much. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When Charlie Kirk first died, there was a lot of heightened emotions. | ||
| There were things that came out that I thought were very weird. | ||
| Like, I'm sure you remember the main thing that stuck out to me was how Harrison Smith tweeted a few days before Charlie said if he died, it was Israel. | ||
| And there were a few things like that. | ||
| And like, that's, I think that's perfectly fine to be to question, be suspicious of. | ||
| We absolutely should investigate it and figure out what's going on. | ||
| But I don't think that's what Candace is doing anymore. | ||
| Now she's saying this is Israel is involved. | ||
| Egypt is involved. | ||
| The government of France is involved. | ||
| Happens to be all that she has personal beef with, by the way. | ||
| People who wear red shirts, a B cult, and who else? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| Turning point USA, Erica Kirk, all of these people are all involved in some plan to kill Charlie. | ||
| And for some reason, like there's like five different motives for this. | ||
| It's not even like, I don't know how anyone is still hanging on to what she says and thinking that she like knows everything. | ||
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And I will say asking questions. | |
| Well, it's just so ridiculous because they always, she's, she's constantly falling back on just asking questions. | ||
| And it's like, I don't have problems with people asking questions, but you're making accusations. | ||
| You're coming up there like two days after Charlie died when everyone's like still grieving him and saying you have all the answers when you don't know shit. | ||
| And like everyone can tell. | ||
| You're just making stuff up. | ||
| She just thought she had something at the beginning. | ||
| And now she needs to work backwards to try to prove that she's not psycho insane and just like accusing people of things. | ||
| And one thing I will say is one reason I was sort of believing her at the beginning or thought she had something was because of her claim about Erica Kirk saying the only people who can shut me up are Erica Kirk and my husband. | ||
| When she said that, I assumed, well, that's a really bold claim to make. | ||
| If Candace is saying this, she must be in some sort of communication with Erica or Erica must be supporting what she's doing. | ||
| And that was seriously like why I hung on to these theories for longer than I should have. | ||
| And then now it's like she just fully backtracks. | ||
| Erica's like, you're accusing my friends in my family of being involved in a murder and a cover-up with no real evidence at all. | ||
| We actually have that. | ||
| And yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Maybe, yeah, maybe we should play that club. | ||
| No one. | ||
| And I mean absolutely no one outside of my husband and Erica Kirk has the power to shut me up right now. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Asked her about the conspiracies and what she had to say to those saying them. | ||
| Erica said, stop. | ||
| No. | ||
| No one. | ||
| So yeah, you're right. | ||
| She completely backtracked on it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Just like she has on everything. | ||
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Everything. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, on our show last week, we said as much because obviously TP USA's initial response to her came shortly after she made the claim that everybody betrayed Charlie. | ||
| And when you make a bold statement like that, you're like, okay, so you're saying that everybody in Turning Point is complicit. | ||
| Charlie's at least then, obviously, I announced a statement And shortly after, that's when Blake Neff came forward with his own statement inviting her to debate. | ||
| And obviously, we are not going to see that happen. | ||
| But like you, I honestly was kind of at least giving her the benefit of the doubt in the sense that, and maybe it's just like my womanly nature, my emotional nature, where you want to just like believe in friendship, | ||
| you know, and doing the right thing no matter what, despite all of the odds against you and all of this stuff, especially when you have, you know, a lot of inconsistencies from the FBI and all of these things kind of working in tandem, you're like, okay, well, maybe even if she sounds crazy, | ||
| even if she's talking about dreams of beekeepers in maroon shirts, she's willing to sound ridiculous because she wants to avenge her friend, because she loves her friend and because she wants to get to the bottom of the truth and find answers for her friend. | ||
| But like I said on the previous show, following that logic, if I believe that to be the case, then I should also believe that she should show up then. | ||
| That no matter what is on her calendar, no matter what inconveniences may arise, no matter how difficult they would have made it for her, if I'm going off like feelings, right? | ||
| Then her feeling should be that she wants to be there and to avenge her friend and to show up for him in person. | ||
| And ever since I saw that she was unwilling to do that, even though I have heard, obviously, her husband said no, obviously that's biblical. | ||
| The husband is the head of the household. | ||
| Stupid ass excuse. | ||
| But I think it's biblical as well. | ||
| No, do you not agree with that? | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| It's biblical. | ||
| It's just like a BS excuse. | ||
| So you don't think that he actually told her no? | ||
| I mean, if he did tell her no, that he's implicit. | ||
| I think her husband is at fault in all of this too at this point, because why is he letting her like make a fool out of their family? | ||
| It's embarrassing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So whatever. | ||
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I mean, honestly. | |
| I'll implicate both of them at the same time. | ||
| I've been seeing it through a whole different lens since that, honestly, because following the logic that I was tracking and wanting to believe in her, it's like, okay, anyone who's willing to make themselves sound that dumb, who's willing to leave no stone unturned, who's willing to do everything she's doing, it must be because she loves her friend. | ||
| If you loved your friend that much, you'd show up. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| You'd show up. | ||
| So I've been seeing it with you. | ||
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People are saying that lens the last week. | |
| It's been kind of excruciating. | ||
| And I agree. | ||
| I mean, like, that was, it was sort of like an emotional thing for me too, why I was hanging on for so long. | ||
| Not that I feel like I never even fully voice support of her because I was like, okay, she's kind of off the rails a bit, but I was kind of like staying neutral, didn't want to go after her. | ||
| But then, I mean, I think for me, what the, what you could say, the turning point was for me with Candace was when she accused Tyler Boyer of being a gay pedophile with quite literally no evidence. | ||
| Like that is a wild, libelous claim. | ||
| And I mean, sure, there's, you can say there's like corrupt, maybe there's corrupt people or immoral people in the conservative movement. | ||
| But I mean, that like you can't just make a claim that someone's a pedophile with no evidence at all. | ||
| Like, and especially like, I don't know Tyler personally, but I have some friends who are close to Tyler that like my friends that I consider to be like very good and moral people who have only ever said good things about Tyler. | ||
| And sure, maybe he works for an organization that's co-opted by Zionism or whatever, but that doesn't mean he's a pedophile. | ||
| And to me, that was just like a disgusting thing to say, unless she actually has any real evidence about that. | ||
| Like literally shut the hell up. | ||
| Like you're just reading stuff that people DM'd you and spreading these lies about the people who were closest to Charlie. | ||
| And I don't care what anyone says. | ||
| I don't think that Charlie, Charlie and Candace were really that close when he died. | ||
| Whenever she shows these screen tech screenshots of their conversations, it's like he sent her like a Bible verse that he probably sent to like 10 other people. | ||
| And that was their first communication in months or something. | ||
| It's like, okay. | ||
| Or like he sent her one of her posts and was like, good job. | ||
| Like he's obviously just being cordial. | ||
| That's not the same thing as being best friends. | ||
| And I think, yeah, sure, they were friends like five years ago. | ||
| And he tried to stay on good terms with everyone, but stop like she needs to stop pretending that she cares more about Charlie Kirk than his own wife. | ||
| Like, let's be for real. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| She's just being selfish. | ||
| Yeah, I feel that. | ||
| And to corroborate some of what you're saying, Tyler is a really nice guy. | ||
| He's a really, really good guy, actually. | ||
| I have a lot of respect for him. | ||
| And I find it interesting that those allegations kind of came out in tandem with, you know, Milo Giannopoulos as well on Tim Constance. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I'm not sure if you. | ||
| That's another red flag. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That automatically, I'm discounting every single thing Candace Owens says when she's friends with an actual gay pedophile, Milo Yiannopoulos. | ||
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Right. | |
| Who is who admits it? | ||
| Who admits it? | ||
| And yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We don't need to necessarily do a super deep dive into that. | ||
| I don't know about everybody else, but I'm getting Candace and Erica fatigue. | ||
| I'm so fatigued with it. | ||
| I'm so tired of it, you know? | ||
| And I really don't like how Candace was making a point because on the Fox News interview, Erica was saying how she's getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars. | ||
| The views are absolutely insane. | ||
| She's bigger than ever. | ||
| And she, her response was, was, was all like, oh, yeah, Erica's made $140 million for TPUSA since he died. | ||
| And I'm over here getting a couple of money. | ||
| Yeah, that's an organization. | ||
| That's not Erica. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And she downplayed it. | ||
| She was like, oh, yeah, the YouTuber's getting a couple hundred, a couple thousand. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| She said hundreds of thousands. | ||
| That's a big difference. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And yeah, no, it, it, and, and, that's a lot of money for a few YouTube videos spreading conspiracy theories. | ||
| A lot of money. | ||
| And it's worth lying. | ||
| And if she is lying. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You think she's, it's just like double the views. | ||
| I mean, double the money per episode is good, but when you're already rich, is it really worth it? | ||
| Here's what I think, honestly. | ||
| So, you know how true crime, I'm very fascinated by how women have become utterly obsessed with true crime. | ||
| Like a huge majority, I think it's like 80 to 90% of people who consume this content are women. | ||
| And initially the genre actually used to be helpful, people phoning in tips and doing this and that and collectives working together. | ||
| But when it became a fad and something that women became obsessed with, it became their new version of like soap operas or drama, right? | ||
| It kind of hijacks your mind. | ||
| And there's something in your brain called the reticular activating system where it determines what it is that you focus on and how you draw connections with certain things, right? | ||
| Because our brains are taking in billions of bits of information per second. | ||
| There's no way we could experience that all at once without exploding. | ||
| And so our brain determines what is actually relevant to our consciousness and to our day-to-day life. | ||
| I think Candace Owens is in so deep with all of these investigations, you know, with her Macron investigation and this and that, that in her head, genuinely, she is now making connections that aren't there. | ||
| I don't necessarily think that she is grifting or being maliciously, you know, intentionally going after them. | ||
| And maybe now, honestly, as people are kind of waking up to it and it's coming to this crescendo where people are like, okay, what do you actually have though? | ||
| Because you've been going for three months. | ||
| What do you actually have? | ||
| Your Egyptian planes, I get it. | ||
| You have not made any definitive claims, right? | ||
| Maybe she's coming to this point too, but I do think that up until now, sometimes your brain can see things that other people can't see. | ||
| We make connections and associations that aren't there purely by virtue of our subconscious mind and what we have spent our time hyper-fixating on, right? | ||
| There's this meme of her like against one of those detective boards with all of like, you know, people put up pictures and they have the right. | ||
| And it's like, it's just this insane thing. | ||
| And it comes back and it's like the victor, the perpetrator is her. | ||
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There's a picture of her on her forehead. | |
| Like, it's just this dumb meme. | ||
| But, like, that's what happens there. | ||
| Like, when you're. | ||
| If what you're saying is true, it is still extremely disrespectful and kind of dangerous if she doesn't know the answers and she has this huge audience and she's seeing all these threats. | ||
| And I mean, the implication, if there is no validity to this at all, the implications she's been making are malicious, even if she's just asking questions. | ||
| It's gone beyond that now. | ||
| She's not just asking questions. | ||
| She is pretty much, she is like fully accusing Charlie's friends and wife of being a part of his murder. | ||
| That's not just asking questions. | ||
| She has been implying that with no evidence over a long time. | ||
| And she's. | ||
| Let me play this clip real quick. | ||
| She's talking to Russell Brand here, and what she says, I think is absolutely insane. | ||
| Charlie's life could have been the Truman show. | ||
| That terrifies me more than nothing in your life is real. | ||
| Generally, like, I was expecting, like, we're all getting the old band back together, and it's going to be me and Trump. | ||
| And I'm going to have the FBI help me investigate this. | ||
| We're going to figure out what happened to my friend. | ||
| And it was like, Candace is the enemy for asking questions. | ||
| Was Charlie Kirk's life real? | ||
| Is what I think I cried the hardest about because how are you not fighting for him? | ||
| That's so crazy to say that. | ||
| She's insinuating. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like in the Truman show, the wife was fake. | ||
| His friends were fake. | ||
| Everybody's a paid actor to advertise stuff. | ||
| They were all in this plot to kill him for why. | ||
| I don't know what I don't know what they were getting out of it. | ||
| Like, I don't know what the point of that was. | ||
| For money and power. | ||
| But it's just stupid. | ||
| Like, yeah, this is why she's just driving me insane. | ||
| And like, it's so narcissistic. | ||
| She's made this whole thing. | ||
| She's made Charlie's death about her. | ||
| Like, this was supposed to be like, there were so many sort of like, even though it was like very tragic, there were positive things that were coming out of the death where people were, there was like the highest church attendance. | ||
| Remember, the Sunday after he died, there's like the highest church attendance in years, right? | ||
| Every church had like twice the amount of people. | ||
| People, there was like sort of a bit of a, I don't know if you want to say revival, but people were listening to what Charlie was saying. | ||
| And while I don't agree with everything he was saying, he did have some good messages about Christianity, the importance of family, that sort of thing. | ||
| And he was being memorialized on a wide scale. | ||
| And there was like positive things that were coming out of this. | ||
| And then Candace has made it all into this really stupid, convoluted conspiracy that really just like, I mean, doesn't really have that much evidence at all. | ||
| And yeah, it's, I think it's just disgusting. | ||
| And like, she's acting as if these people who were close to Charlie are not human at all or something. | ||
| Like, are you not going to think about like his family or friends' emotions when you're basically accusing them of killing him after they already had to watch his like head get blown off and or not blown off, but and they already had to watch that in 4K and watch half the country celebrate it. | ||
| And you're going and you're going to accuse them of being a part of it. | ||
| Like that's evil. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think she's an evil bitch. | ||
| You know, I'm, I'm, my inclination, I'm starting to lean that way. | ||
| Like more and more, I, I genuinely believe that she did have good intention. | ||
| Like that's what I believed. | ||
| I'd not say that's what she believed, but I thought that she actually had good intentions at first. | ||
| And I feel like I'm becoming more and more disillusioned with that concept as the weeks progress. | ||
| That being said, that does not take away from the fact that there are a lot of unanswered questions when it comes to this case. | ||
| That does not take away the fact that, you know, if Tyler Robinson doesn't actually make it to court on that final day, right? | ||
| If he somehow magically unalives himself or something like that happens, I think we are looking at a little bit of a bigger conspiracy. | ||
| And I think that, you know, Tyler Robinson could be still the person who technically shot the trigger. | ||
| They're saying that you have DNA evidence, all of this stuff, but that doesn't mean that it's a part of something bigger. | ||
| That said, now seeing the way that this has transpired with Candace, that isn't helping any further to get to the truth when people are just grasping at straws and it makes any other opposing opinion just seem so ludicrous. | ||
| It makes people feel embarrassed to even ask legitimate questions or even follow up on, well, could this have been a Patsy, perhaps? | ||
| Could there have been elements of maybe FBI or CIA or these other people maybe in some of those group chats? | ||
| What happened to those group chats? | ||
| We haven't heard about them since. | ||
| What about the people who predicted Charlie Kirk's death days leading up to it? | ||
| The mixtape that dropped all of these things. | ||
| We haven't heard any more about this. | ||
| Not from Candace either, mind you, right? | ||
| So I think we're in a little bit of a rock in a hard place where it's like, yes, I don't necessarily want to accept the official narrative of what the FBI is saying and what Turning Point is saying on the face of things. | ||
| But now the one person who's actually asking questions is has definitely, I would say at this point, gone too far. | ||
| And I think I would say at this point, I would say that I disavow what Candace is saying entirely. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's big. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You can keep it up with this. | ||
| That's actually crazy. | ||
| I mean, yeah, I mean, but I felt really different about it the last couple of days watching to it and listening to it. | ||
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I, I don't want to insinuate anything. | |
| I don't want to offend anybody. | ||
| Actually, I don't care so much about that. | ||
| When I look into her eyes, they're pitch black. | ||
| They're black. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| I mean, the words. | ||
| No, look, that's just my weird observation, but I haven't necessarily trusted. | ||
| She's very entertaining. | ||
| I view her as an entertainer. | ||
| I view a lot of these people as entertainers. | ||
| That's all she is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, like I said, true crime, it's one of the most addictive things. | ||
| It's one of the largest genres in the world, and it is fueled and propagated by women at the end of the day. | ||
| And I'm sure that that's what the majority of her audience is. | ||
| You know, people love the drama. | ||
| They love all of this stuff. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But I honestly, the last few days, I've been cringing a little. | ||
| Trying to over the last few days. | ||
| It's like it's been turned. | ||
| It's sort of been turned to like this fictional series. | ||
| Like these people are detached from real life where they're like, oh, I wonder what information is going to come out about this person. | ||
| It's like, it's like this fictional TV series show thing. | ||
| And it's like, this, he actually died. | ||
| You remember that, Riley? | ||
| He was actually a real person. | ||
| Like, you know, his family is seeing this stuff and his friends. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| It's, I just, I feel like it's become like this fictional thing. | ||
| People are detached from reality. | ||
| And it's so stupid that it's like someone like me who goes a lot further than people like Candace or Ian Carroll when we're talking about Jews in Israel. | ||
| I'm being accused of being like a Zionist show or something like that. | ||
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But I say their narrative's stupid. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Literally. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| That's what pissed me off today. | ||
| These people are saying, oh, how come Erica Kirk doesn't want to tell us where they buried her husband? | ||
| It's like, you retard, maybe because she doesn't want like the entire country. | ||
| This is like, he's like a high-profile picture. | ||
| Yeah, maybe they don't want like all of the leftists who made TikToks laughing about his death to go over and spray paint on his grave or like destroy the greystone and dig up his body. | ||
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And you know what? | |
| I think that it's more likely that an Ian Carroll or Candace Owens stand would be the first one to desecrate the grave because they would be digging up that grave and being like, oh, let me see where the bullet is. | ||
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Let's see if there's next woman or whatever. | |
| It's true. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| They are insane. | ||
| They would do that. | ||
| They're freaking crazy. | ||
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I think they would be, I think they would do it before leftists would. | |
| Honestly, yeah, I'm not surprised. | ||
| They say the horseshoe effect, right, in politics, like the two sides of the extremes, they're like just as crazy as each other at the end of the day. | ||
| I am not going to refute that by any means. | ||
| But okay, guys, as we wrap up this episode, I do want to remind you guys that I have recently got independent. | ||
| A lot of people have been asking me the question, have you left Valutainment? | ||
| Why don't you want her take this, that, and the other? | ||
| And yes, it's true. | ||
| I have gone independent. | ||
| I've been independent now for just over a month. | ||
| I think it was the very beginning of November that we officially took that step and we went independent. | ||
| And, you know, I have nothing but love and admiration and respect for the people at Valutainment and for my time there. | ||
| I can say that I've met some of the most brilliant and principled people that I've ever known in my entire life over at Value Taint. | ||
| Some people specifically who I cherish so much, you know, and I wish them nothing but continued success. | ||
| But I'm really, really excited for this next chapter. | ||
| Obviously, we like to talk about the controversial stuff here. | ||
| We don't like to mince words. | ||
| We like to say exactly what we think, exactly what we feel, even if it is controversial, maybe not sponsor-friendly, maybe not, you know. | ||
| And that's precisely why I've been seeing a lot of comments about you went independent, but you're with Rift TV. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| This is exactly why we're with Rift right now. | ||
| We can't quite get into too many details. | ||
| We're still in negotiation and the planning phases. | ||
| And we'll update you guys when the time comes. | ||
| But for right now, Rift TV, Elijah Schaefer, they are giving us total freedom. | ||
| They're hooking us up with more resources than we could ever ask for. | ||
| We're so thankful. | ||
| They are not asking for ownership of the channel or like comparatively to these people. | ||
| They don't own my content, which is nice. | ||
| It's an industry standard that basically, if you're with a network, they own the IP. | ||
| It's their IP. | ||
| It's their intellectual property at the end of the day. | ||
| Anything that they film using their devices. | ||
| And that's fine. | ||
| It's fair. | ||
| It's industry standard because they're providing a high quality of service. | ||
| And I never had any qualms with that. | ||
| That's why most of my content previously before this is archived, right? | ||
| But I'm so grateful for Elijah where we can own 100% of our own our own content. | ||
| We can talk about whatever it is that we want to talk about, not saying that we were being censored before, but more so coming from the place of like, I make a lot of edgy jokes. | ||
| Danny makes a lot of edgy jokes. | ||
| We're Big America first. | ||
| Nick Fwenger stands. | ||
| We literally, we watch Nick's show frequently. | ||
| We like to joke. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We like to be a little bit silly. | ||
| But we also like to talk about stuff that matters that maybe isn't, like I said, sponsor-friendly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so it's never that I was being censored. | ||
| They never tried to censor me. | ||
| Free speech is one of their attributes. | ||
| But at the same time, when you have a company that has a human resources department and there's hundreds of people working there, people's livelihoods depend on employment. | ||
| And the people who are, you know, helping to operate that company, it was my own decision that I didn't want to show 100% of my views and my personality. | ||
| And now I want to do that. | ||
| So that's what I'm doing here, independent with Rift TV. | ||
| And we could not be more grateful to Elijah for making that happen. | ||
| Sarah is also with Rift TV. | ||
| And so I look forward to collaborating with her on future shows. | ||
| We're not exactly sure what that will look like going forward in 2026, but I'm sure that we'll be doing a lot more stuff together. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Super happy you joined. | ||
| Fingers crossed. | ||
| So Danny, do we have any super chats or any comments, any questions that we can address aside from those basic ones? | ||
| Or should we call it a night here? | ||
| Do you have anything on Instagram? | ||
| We haven't gotten a super chat yet except for slightly offensive TV. | ||
| Elijah Shafer has $100. | ||
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Oh my God. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Thank you, Elijah. | ||
| We appreciate that. | ||
| Yeah, I got a bunch of questions. | ||
| You know, last week, most of them were pertaining specifically to Valutainment, to her take. | ||
| You know, I hope to come on her take in the future as a guest. | ||
| I think that could be a lot of fun. | ||
| However, some exciting news. | ||
| We are going to be moving and starting off 2026 in a different location. | ||
| Are we announcing that right now? | ||
| Well, the location right now is undisclosed. | ||
| We're not disclosing the location. | ||
| Sorry, was I not meant to announce it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what you want to announce. | ||
| We're blowing this popsicle stand, guys. | ||
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We're out of here. | |
| We're out of here. | ||
| We're blowing this popsicle stand. | ||
| We're out of here. | ||
| And we're going to start 2026, somebody, somewhere brand new and exciting. | ||
| More details on that to come soon. | ||
| So definitely looking forward to that. | ||
| Sarah, it was great to have you on the show this evening. | ||
| Where can the people find you? | ||
| Yeah, thank you so much for having me on. | ||
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A lot of fun. | |
| Definitely to do it again in the future. | ||
| People want to find me. | ||
| I'm most active on X, just Sarah C Stock, but I'm also on Instagram. | ||
| That's also Sarah C stock. | ||
| And then I have a YouTube channel too, which I believe I'm forgetting right now, but I believe it's Sarah-stock. | ||
| Or just look up my name. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think Sarah underscore stock or something. | ||
| We'll find out in the description. | ||
| We'll put it in the description of the video. | ||
| So if you guys want to follow Sarah's socials, we will make sure that is all up here and updated. | ||
| I hope you guys have an incredible week. | ||
| Next week, we're going to be coming to you live from Amfest, actually, which is pretty exciting. | ||
| Yeah, Sarah's going to be there as well. | ||
| But maybe it's a little bit premature to announce, but fingers crossed, I actually have an interview with Mark Mitchell of Erasmus and reports one of the most accurate posts from the last three different election cycles that he's going to actually be weighing in on something different than his usual political data. | ||
| He's going to be weighing in on this recent report that came out that apparently America First Nick Fuente supporters are actually bots for the most part. | ||
| And this is a guy who is literally, there's nobody who does data better than him. | ||
| So I'm so excited to break it all down. | ||
| We're also going to talk about the midterms. | ||
| That is going to be live next week from Amfest. | ||
| And then from there, we may be taking a summer break. | ||
| And then, Danny, what else? | ||
| Do you mean winter? | ||
| We're in America. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I always forget. | ||
| Christmas time is summer in Australia. | ||
| My brain always goes there for some reason. | ||
| Okay, what else do we have coming up, Danny? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Well, Jesus Christ is returning at some point. | ||
| So that's exciting. | ||
| I look forward to that. | ||
| Video essays. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| Of our content. | ||
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All right. | |
| We got the most conservative grocery store in America coming on up. | ||
| We got a video about true crime coming on up. | ||
| And what was that one that we're about to shoot? | ||
| Australia. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They just banned under 16s from using social media on paper. | ||
| It sounds like a good idea. | ||
| But it's actually a very sneaky Trojan horse to put forward some very dystopian policies. | ||
| So we're going to be covering all of that. | ||
| Thank you guys so much for being here. | ||
| Thank you, Sarah. | ||
| Thank you, Danny. | ||
| And we'll see you guys next week from Amfest. | ||
| Bye for now. | ||
| Bye. | ||
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See you. | |
| Bye. |