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elijah schaffer
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michael hennessey
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vish burra
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candace owens
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donald j trump
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mark levin
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randy fine
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donald j trump [ai]
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elijah schaffer
Well, there's a new argument on what defines the right wing.
Individuals like Seth Dylan, Yaff, and Heritage are the forefront of a debate upon what are we conserving.
Well, apparently, it's not anybody on the populist right.
Check out what Ben Shapiro had to say.
Notice that each time he speaks out against the right, his hat grows a little bit bigger.
ben shapiro
My answer is no.
No to the Groipers.
No to their publicists like Tucker Carlson.
No to those who champion them.
No to demoralization.
No to bigotry and anti-meritocratic horseshit.
No to anti-Americanism.
No.
This is our country.
This is our party.
And this is our conservative movement.
And I will not stand by while it is handed over to those who betray the most fundamental principles I've spent my entire life defending and advocating.
That is a path to defeat and a path to moral oblivion.
I reject it because if we lose the right, we will lose to the left.
And either way, we'll lose the country.
I'm Ben Shapiro.
This is the.
unidentified
Anyways, if Americans, if we hand the power back over to Americans and we hand it back over from who?
elijah schaffer
Ben, you kind of told on yourself.
Who has the power?
You have the power?
The power's in your hands?
What group is it that has the power and they don't want to give it over?
And who are they trying not to give it over to?
Well, we're talking about that in so much more here in another episode of The Rift.
Live Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7 p.m. Eastern Time.
Shout out to James Lindsay, number one sword fighter in the United States, who recently just retweeted a RiftTV.com article just today talking about how we are the danger to the public.
My name is Elijah Schaefer.
It is approximately 7.02 p.m. Eastern Time in the United States.
unidentified
Let's start the show to another episode of the riff.
elijah schaffer
We are a live show Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and we are not a Zionist program.
We are not a programs of the Zionist cult.
All we are is an America-first publication and studio production that cares about the American people.
And apparently, according to what we're going to cover today, not only do we not belong in the public discourse, we can't run for Congress, and we're not allowed to make any changes in this country.
We actually have to be destroyed, deplatformed.
And yes, they actually want us killed.
Joining me today is co-host RiftTV.com and the founder of Snowflake News, Michael Hennessy.
Welcome back.
michael hennessey
Hey, happy to be here.
I can see the meltdown is beginning.
They're losing control, so I'm loving it.
I'm excited for this episode.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so a lot of things happened recently.
There was a Republican Jewish Coalition.
Later in the show today, we'll have Vish Burra and Trisha Page on talking about two interesting aspects.
Vish Burra is a producer and host at OAN, and Tricia is a grandma who got confronted by Tyler Boyer, one of the leading directors of Turning Point, over her questions about why Erica Kirk is mourning the way she is and a false news story that apparently was started by Zionists.
I hate talking about this topic, but unfortunately, like I mentioned, you know, when you shove it in our faces for decades, and, you know, I'm just going to remind you, Pat Buchanan will rise again.
Check this out.
So Randy Fine, congressman here from the state of Florida, was at the Republican Jewish Coalition.
Like I mentioned, nothing says that there is no coalition of Jewish people having influence in the Republican Party than a group called the Republican Jewish Coalition.
michael hennessey
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
They try to hide it, and at the same time, they don't try to hide it.
So it's confusing.
elijah schaffer
No, and Randy Fine, kicked out of 109 Buffets, is here to talk to us about this new fight.
It's called Operation Cancer, Cancel Tucker Carlson.
We got a lot to talk about.
Check this out.
randy fine
For the kids down here, because it's easy to talk about anti-Semitism on the left.
I want to talk about the dark force rising on our side.
Multiple speakers have talked about the rise of anti-Semitism on the right.
But it is not enough to speak in platitudes or generalities about the fight.
We must call evil by its name.
Five years ago.
elijah schaffer
I mean, no offense, dude, but I'd be a little more worried about cholesterol than I probably would be about anti-Semitism.
It's like, you know, they want to kill us.
Sir, you're doing a fine job killing yourself, right?
Obesity has a greater threat to your Judaistic genetic line than anything Tucker Carlson could say.
The hometown buffet membership that you have is probably a greater threat to your life than any type of white nationalist in the United States of America.
Randy Fine, bring that up.
Randy Fine is the opposite of Fine.
He's got high blood pressure, probably a lot of stress and sweat.
But I mean, you know, jokes aside, let's not talk about his weight.
What he's saying is really weighty.
michael hennessey
It's kind of like, I remember the commercials they used to have, like for a dollar a day, you can feed a child in Africa.
But for them, it's like starve a Gaza child a day and just give the food to Randy Fine.
elijah schaffer
Randy Fine ate the Gaza Abe.
michael hennessey
Yeah, that's exactly it.
elijah schaffer
Check this out, though.
So he goes on this attack.
Now, what we're going to see is there's a ramp up of rhetoric.
This is the problem right now.
It's okay to criticize people.
It's okay to, you know, in some cases, it's okay to slander people.
I would say in the public square, I get slandered a lot.
It's kind of like, it's fine, you know, especially if it's coming from a woman's mouth.
You know, you know, it's lies.
But when it comes from people with power and authority, like sitting congressmen, this is when it becomes problematic.
These are people with institutional authority.
And here's what he had to say about a commentator, someone, a journalist, by the way.
This is the government commenting on journalists, reminding you that they killed over 226 journalists in Gaza intentionally, by the way.
Listen to this.
randy fine
If I was talking to my father, who's watching, hi, Dad.
If I was talking to my father at 8.59 p.m. at night, he would say, Randy, I got to go.
Tucker Carlson's going to be on.
elijah schaffer
But now he doesn't support Israel.
So now we can't like him.
This is literally, listen to this.
This is what he says.
He used to listen every night at 8 o'clock, and now he doesn't support Israel.
Watch.
randy fine
Today, Tucker Carlson is the most dangerous anti-Semite in America.
elijah schaffer
Oh, boy, Vey.
randy fine
He has chosen to take on the mantle of leader of a modern-day Hitler youth to broadcast and feature those who celebrate the Nazis, those who call for the extermination of Israel, to defend Hamas, to even criticize President Trump.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
Yeah.
How dare he criticize our Zionist leader?
He has the audacity to criticize the president of the United States.
Amen without flaws.
I would compare him to Jesus Christ, but I believe Jesus Christ is burning in semen and shit as a Jewish person.
So I would not say he's Jesus.
What you have here, though, to break this down, right?
This is, we're going to see the most psychotic rhetoric coming out of this conference.
Now, what the gaslighting is as we respond to this, extremism, which is Jewish supremacist extremism, as referenced by Jewish historian Norman Finkelstein, who recently just said on Candace, this is a racial supremacy movement.
What you have here is you have what the left was doing.
I'll talk to Vish about it, but like, you know, I don't want to get too much into this video.
We break it down with Vish.
But basically, you have these preprinted signs, Tucker's not MAGA.
So you have these young kids who don't even know what they believe.
They're being indoctrinated.
It's like, yeah, Tucker's not MAGA.
You know what's funny?
All of these Zionists back in 2016, they didn't support Tucker.
They didn't support Tucker.
I mean, they didn't support Trump.
Back in 2016, the people that supported Trump when it cost us something, when it mattered, the people that supported Trump when it hurt were the people that they're trying to say are not MAGA.
The people that got Trump into office, like myself and many others, they're saying we are not MAGA.
Now, this isn't a game like, well, I'm first MAGA.
Here's the deal.
They're also never Trumpers.
Levin, Beck, all these people are never Trumpers.
They mocked him.
They jeered at us.
They made us look like fools.
And now when we're saying, hey, actually, you know, he's kind of abandoning his base.
I go, you know who his base is?
His base is Jews.
It's the Zionist.
That's his base.
And I'm saying here, we're sitting here and I'm going, actually, that's not true.
That's not his base.
His base is not the Jewish people.
They're like, what are you anti-Semite?
Well, no, listen, Trump said it himself.
unidentified
Watch.
donald j trump
Hello to everyone at the Republican Jewish Coalition and congratulations on 40 amazing years.
I want to thank your national chairman, former Senator Norm Coleman, along with your CEO Matt Brooks and my friend Miriam Adelson and so many other incredible supporters, distinguished guests out in beautiful Las Vegas.
Four days from now, we will celebrate the one-year anniversary of the most important election victory in the history of our country.
With the help of many of you, we won all seven swing states by millions of votes.
We won the Electoral College 312 to 226.
We won the popular vote for the first time of any Republican in decades.
donald j trump [ai]
And we won 86% of the counties in America, 2,700 to 525.
elijah schaffer
All right, so there he mentions it, right?
He mentions something very important.
He's like, okay, we did win the American people.
So we're talking about his base, right?
Yeah.
This is where I agree with Trump.
I'm like, hey, Trump, so you have a base, correct?
You have people who voted for you for real reasons.
I'm not against Trump.
Why would I want Trump to fail?
michael hennessey
Yeah, but it's like asking a pilot of a plane to, you know, I hope they crash because I'm not a fan of them or whatever it may be.
There's a person leaving our country.
This is somebody who we want to do well.
So the last thing we do is want Trump to fail.
The one thing I love, though, is they finally got the MAGA hat right.
If you look at Randy Fine, he has like a little red one now.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
michael hennessey
So a little mega hat.
That's really what it comes down to.
elijah schaffer
You know, they had MAGA keepas at the RNC.
They were giving official merch at the stores.
They had little Jewish hats.
And what I thought about this was funny.
I told somebody I said, you know, they're kind of telling on themselves.
He goes, why go?
Jews make up what, like a like here in Wisconsin, like a percent, maybe like half a percent of the population, maybe less, maybe 0.4%, I think it was.
I go, but they have enough pre-printed keepas that they know that there's enough.
Like, what is event?
Like 10,000 people?
michael hennessey
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
It's like, they know there's this many Jews.
They pre-printed like 5,000 like little hats.
Like they knew that like half the people at the Republican National Convention were going to be Jewish, which shows you that there's a little bit of overrepresentation, right?
A little bit.
Just a little bit.
You know?
And people go, well, why does it matter if there's overrepresentation?
Do you know what happens when you put a little too much salt in a dish?
Enough salt gives a little flavor.
You know?
Yeah, a little flavor.
unidentified
Oy the little flavor in my matzo ball soup.
elijah schaffer
But then you do a little too much salt and you end up with a disgusting disaster of a meal.
So it's like, you know, a little bit of Jews.
Maybe you get a bank set up in your city.
A little bit of Jews.
Maybe you get a little nudie magazine here or there.
You might be able to sneak into your grandpa's house.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
You know, perhaps a little weed is legalized here nor there in that one weird county, you know?
But then you get too many of them and you end up, you end up like most 30-year-olds today, too prideful to move back into your parents' house, but unable to afford the city you grew up in to ever even rent a house in, let alone buy one.
Unfortunately, that's what happens.
And I think a lot of people are calling this out.
And we don't really care if it's antisepticism.
I grew up with a septic tank.
It smelled like shit.
And the same thing goes with what's going on today.
It smells bad.
But I like what Trump said.
So Trump gets in this.
Now, before we talk about this, I'm going to tell you what Trump said.
So Trump then describes, here's my base.
I got voted in by the people.
You'd expect him to say, so here's what my people want.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Right.
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All right, so going back to this, Trump's like, hey, I got voted in by record numbers of people.
Okay, great.
So, hey, Trump, what do we want to do?
Unfortunately, it's not what's going to happen.
Listen to this.
donald j trump
And very importantly, the RJC helped ensure that we won the highest percentage of Jewish vote of any Republican since 1988.
I can't imagine we didn't do better than that after all I've done for the Jewish vote.
I must be honest with you, but that's okay.
elijah schaffer
I mean, he's gone on his knees, he's done everything for the Jews.
michael hennessey
Yeah, yeah, and his following.
I mean, there's been a rift, to say the least.
There's been a rift between everybody we're seeing where, you know, him being more pro-Israel than putting America first has really caused trouble for his administration.
As far as people are now, his approval ratings are dropping.
The American people are getting sick.
elijah schaffer
Young guys, I saw the poll in Mars Mussin that young men are the ones that were pro-Trump have been moving away from Trump now.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Because Trump is moving towards not the center.
He's moving towards the unit party, which is this, you know, neocon war.
And by the way, you know that the Zionist neocons are inextricable, inextricably connected because right now, as they're fighting to retain Zionist control, they're attacking the greatest enemy of neoconservatism, which is paleoconservative, like Pat Buchanan.
So you're seeing a re-uptake, a resurge of attacks on people who were against the neoconservative movement.
And the reason why is because our book club, which by the way, we are going to bring back, guys, I'm not joking.
I know I keep saying that, but like we had a bunch of problems.
We had a bunch of new shows starting.
Remember, DC Dive is live on our channel.
We have our Joel Webbin show starting at the end of the month.
We have a few other stuff.
You'll start to see some standalone content this week.
Henny right here is going to be experimenting with his sexuality on camera.
michael hennessey
On camera, guys.
Fortnite guy.
elijah schaffer
No, but he's going to be experimenting, kind of like trying to get his style down with content presentations.
He's going to be doing some select exclusives on locals on Tuesday and Thursday.
So you can get those if you're on locals.
It'll be for members only.
And maybe shirts will be off.
But bets are off now when it comes to what's kind of going on.
You see back now, they're calling it conserving conservatism, but it's really just conserving a uniparty political system that developed in the late 90s and early 2000s, which then, after the Cold War, usurped that unified war machine called the military-industrial complex into a unified front.
Now, the neoconservatives decided that they obviously want to make a universal global empire.
And the Jews want to get their attention by saying, well, we can tame the Muslims.
can basically democratize the Muslims.
We can bring Western civil order to the whole world, which is obviously not true.
michael hennessey
Not true.
elijah schaffer
In the midst of that, we've crippled our nation.
We've allowed China to become a formidable foe.
North Korea has never been able to be checked, even their nuclear program.
Iran, you know, Iran, we gave them billions of dollars and we gave them nuclear weapons and then bombed them for having them, which made no sense.
You know, the Taliban is stronger than ever.
Right.
ISIS currently controls Syria.
I mean, this is not a good, we're not in a good position.
Libya is a failed state.
Yemen is still attacking ships in the Red Sea.
I mean, should I go on?
I mean, it's like, we're not in a good position.
And then the Arab Spring.
Egypt is so bad that the government abandoned their capital, Cairo.
I don't know if you saw it.
They abandoned it.
They're just building a new city in the desert because they can't control their own capital.
So it's not like we're not in a good position, guys.
And so everyone's like, kind of like, not like, hey, I hate Jews.
They're like, yo, I do now, but I did it.
And I think that's what people don't understand.
Like, I'll get that clipped out.
I'm not saying I hate Jews, but a lot of people are becoming anti-Semitic because the neoconservatives and Zionists have said you cannot be against neoconservatism and Zionism without hating Jews.
If you're against this political ideology, you hate Jews.
And people are in such desperate positions now that they're just starting to hate Jews.
And I'm trying to help you, Jews.
I'm trying to get, I'm trying to, I'm a Jewish advocate at this point now.
I'm trying to save you guys from getting killed or kicked out of more countries.
Genuinely, this is going to end very poorly for people because everyone who disagrees with them is now a Nazi.
And then, you know, people get tired of the ship.
You know, you can press people for so long, but eventually you start telling people, hey, you know, you know, you hate Jews if you want to be America first.
You know, you hate Jews, this.
And they go, fine, then I hate Jews.
And that's what's happening to people.
Not myself personally.
I'm a little more balanced and informed.
I'm not really hating any group in particular, but I do see why people are becoming animalistic and sort of becoming defensive and not liking Jewish people.
And I don't think it's going to slow down.
And if they don't learn that the will of the European mind is sort of at its crushing point, the Hispanics already don't like Jews very much.
And the blacks don't really like Jews very much.
The only people who like Jews are the white Zionists.
So if you lose that, you're kind of setting yourself up for failure.
michael hennessey
Well, the problem you're running into is they're lump summing everything together.
So if anytime you question Israel, anytime you question Netanyahu or anything to do with them in that country, then you're attacking all Jews.
And what people are doing is we're sick and tired of it.
They label us as anti-Semitic.
We ran into the same thing during BLM when people were destroying stores, robbing, looting.
They would call us racists.
And at some point, we just didn't care anymore.
Like, okay, you're going to call me a racist?
Call me a racist.
If you're going to call me whatever you want, call me whatever you want.
So I think we're seeing a lot of that.
That's going on.
The one thing, too, is that there are groups of Jews who are against what Netanyahu is doing.
There has been protests in New York.
I think it was like a couple of weeks back.
People went out and protested against it.
So it's not everybody, but at the same time, what they're doing is they're bringing it all together.
So if you question one, you question all.
And the narrative is just going out the window.
So the more you have events like this, the more you have these people come on and all these influencers who are getting paid to attack, you know, it's only making their cause worse because it's exposing them more and more each and every day.
elijah schaffer
Well, yeah, but look what he says here.
Look what he says.
Check this out.
donald j trump
1988's not that bad.
One year ago, we were a dead country.
Now we're the hottest country anywhere in the world by far.
Wages for workers have risen at the fastest rate in 60 years and more than $18 trillion are pouring into the United States from all over the world.
We have fully secured our southern border and we have ended eight wars in nine months.
That's pretty good.
Eight wars in nine months.
We have one to go, as you know, Russia, Ukraine.
That includes the historic peace deal that ended the war in Gaza.
After two harrowing years of darkness, our 20 courageous hostages were returned to the loving embrace of their families.
And you have to remember, we also got many of the other hostages out long before that.
Many, many hostages were gotten out by us.
Israel has never had a better friend than President Donald J. Trump.
In my first term, I terminated the disastrous Iran nuclear deal with Operation Midnight Hammer last June.
We totally obliterated Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity.
And we didn't even get them by surprise.
They expected it and they got obliterated.
After years of broken promises by many other American presidents, I kept my promise, officially recognized the capital of Israel and moved the American embassy to Jerusalem.
I also recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights.
Who would have done that?
Nobody even thought I was going to think about it.
Nobody else thought it.
elijah schaffer
I got to move on from this.
The point is, he says he got 33% of the vote.
And so when people are saying, if you want to know this, here's a very simple answer.
Why should we not be promoting Zionism and why should we not be promoting Jewish issues?
The very simple thing is it's not our base, right?
That's not what people voted him for.
And the people that voted him don't care about that.
michael hennessey
But he also recognized Adelson money.
So I think that played a big part in Adolescent in the beginning.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
He's representing his donors.
So one of the like, let's help you with the arguments here.
When someone says, why don't you support Israel?
You go, well, that's not irrelevant question.
It's all you say.
It's not a relevant question, but I support them.
The question is, should Trump be supporting them?
The truth is, is nominally, because they're such a small percentage of our country, and they're such a small percentage of our people and such a small percentage of his base.
It's like, okay, yeah, but they have a lot of money and they pour into him.
Correct.
But what is that money doing?
Is it helping the United States?
Is it helping the United States?
No, it's helping them.
So the money, they're not using the money to help America.
They're using it to help their own country.
So actually, that money's bad.
So you tell people, I don't want Jewish money or Jewish influence in my country.
It's because I don't like using our tax dollars, our military to basically defend their land.
Now, if you go down here, though, what's crazy is the people that spoke at the Republican Jewish Coalition were just insane.
Like to tell you how nuts the evangelical Zionists have become in our country, I want to remind you guys, I do believe evangelicals are incredibly nice people.
And people, you know, I saw someone say that America was built by evangelical Zionists.
And I'm like, dude, that's insane.
It was built by mainline Protestants who are closer to the Catholic Church today than they are to evangelicalism.
Let's be honest here.
You really think that a Baptist family was going to be like defending female podcasters in like 1870 or 1880?
Like you think that like a Pentecostal family in like the 1930s was going to be defending like gold dust raining down from like, come on, dude.
Let's, let's just, let's just have a reality check here.
Okay.
Evangelicalism when mixed with the druggies that became all the druggies in the 60s became evangelicals.
And that's where we got Calvary Chapel from.
Calvary Chapel, Chuck Smith, all the pastors were like ex-drug addicts that took mushrooms and LSD and then became pastors.
And I'm not against that.
Like I'm not against, I'm not against that, but there's no apostolic succession.
You can't just like start a new church.
Like, yo, we all, we all used to take acid and have orgies in vans in California.
This is actually, you know, this is how evangelicalism really started.
Like, this is not a joke.
michael hennessey
I didn't know about this.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but non-denominational Christianity started from a bunch of druggies in California called the Jesus People Movement.
And people don't know about this.
And it's spoken about like this high authority.
It's like, you know, we used to have like order and incense and structure.
And then we started having sex with guys and girls.
This is true.
You can read their stories.
Like Lonnie Frisbee and these guys, you know, this is true.
michael hennessey
This is not a different type of party.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it's like an Elijah Schaefer.
But no, you have Lonnie Frisbee.
You have, you have Chuck Smith wasn't doing those things.
But, you know, he's Chuck Smith is a great guy, by the way, and I don't want to disrespect him.
But Chuck Smith, you know, what happened in the 60s is they were doing all this.
Now, what happened?
Chuck Smith, who was considered the friend of Zion, started prophesying to the president, the prime minister of Israel, that Iran was going to turn on them.
Okay.
So he starts giving this dispensational, eschatological, you know, end times prophecy to the prime minister.
People, I don't ever talk about this.
People don't know about this.
This is what happens when you grow up in a cult.
So Chuck Smith, who never smoked a cigarette in his life, was a good guy, opens up his church to, at the same time, he opened up his church to the hippies.
So he allows barefoot people in the service in Costa Mesa, right?
So in Costa Mesa, he allows them in.
And as the hippie movement is happening in San Francisco and in Orange County in LA, he's building this new theology of people that are just like, oh, like, this is where we get the idea of modern like worship music.
It all comes out of Calvary Chapel, right?
This is where Hill Song comes out of, et cetera.
Well, I don't know if this interests anyone, but I think this is fascinating, the history of how we got here.
Well, he believes that basically in this thing called the rapture, right?
Which is like, we're all going to be taken.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And starts preaching this to all the hippies.
Now, as the cultural revolution is taking place, everyone that gets burned out from the feminism, the drugs, and the sex becomes Calvary Chapel, right?
This is by the way that the charismatic movement comes out of Calvary Chapel as well.
All these Pentecostal charismatic churches come out of like the vineyard and whatnot comes out of this.
So he starts prophesying to the prime minister.
And then you have the Islamic Revolution with the Shah, and Iran becomes an enemy of Israel.
And they realize, they think that he's prophetic.
And that this is when Israel realizes they have to befriend the Christians in order to maintain support.
Now that they have, now that Iran's Muslim, they can't survive without Christian support.
So they get Chuck Smith and others to basically, this is where they start paying and getting the support.
They start financially supporting the churches.
They start pushing the Bible College and Marietta and what's going on around the country.
And they start pushing this, this new, even, they start pushing missions.
So Calvary Chapels have to be everywhere.
Look how many Calvary Chapels are.
It'll blow your mind.
Go look it up.
Oh, there's thousands and thousands and thousands.
And they even have them change their names now because of the fight against Zionism.
And this is where.
michael hennessey
I got blocked on the chat here in Fort Lauderdale.
unidentified
Really?
michael hennessey
Yeah, yeah.
When they were pushing for war, I kind of jumped in the chats.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, they take tithes for Israel.
I was just arguing with one of my family members who is a Calvary Chapel pastor, and I was like, we did not push Zionism.
We would do the Passover at church.
It was to learn about it.
I go, why would we learn about it?
We can read about it.
Why would we do the Passover?
It doesn't make any sense because God already died for us.
We don't need to worry about the angel of death.
We don't need to worry about the angel of death killing the firstborn because God's firstborn died and rose again.
It's a fulfillment of scripture.
We're not Jews.
We don't follow the Old Testament alone.
It's fulfilled.
And it's like, so I don't, anyways, all I was going to say is, is that sort of happened.
That created the world that we live in today.
And now we're stuck with this.
So a bunch of drugged out hippies decided to create their new version of Christianity in the 1960s after their bisexual drug-fueled orgies.
And then we're like, now they look down on everyone who has tradition.
And it's like, and this is what we see is like out of feminism and stuff, non-denominational Christianity formed out of that.
That's why I will have nothing to do with that personally.
I don't want anything to do with that, my family to do it.
I don't want to be around that.
And I don't look down upon the people who do that because I was a part of that and I knew they're good people.
But it's also like they think because it's almost like it's even more prideful than the traditional movements because they think because they're not like they're not gaudy and they're not flashy.
They're like, we're not flashy.
And then they have like a $28,000 projector on each wall.
michael hennessey
Laser shows.
unidentified
Yeah.
And they're like, dude, we don't worship Mary.
elijah schaffer
We don't worship Mary.
A guy and a pastor comes out in a roller coaster with a $45,000 watch, and you're like, come on, guy.
michael hennessey
And the first thing he does is like, all right, we need to get rid of Gaza.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
michael hennessey
Hamas needs to go.
Can I give a hallelujah?
elijah schaffer
Dude, it is.
It is nuts, man.
It is nuts.
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I want to go down to this.
This is the Zionist pastor.
Look what he had to say here.
And then we're going to go ahead and talk a little more about this with Vishburg.
Check this out.
unidentified
My name is Johnny Moore, and I am a Christian Zionist.
elijah schaffer
Closet homosexual.
unidentified
Possibly.
I want to thank you for having me here tonight.
michael hennessey
He's actually rubbing his hands on me.
unidentified
I know inviting a reverend for Shabbat is a little unorthodox.
Pun intended.
I promise, though, I brought my own wine.
Actually, I'm a Baptist, so I brought grape juice.
But I'm also not going to try to turn your water into anything tonight.
I also promise, as an evangelical Christian, to not try to convert anyone to anything unless you're a Democrat, and then all bets are off.
elijah schaffer
That's just sad.
unidentified
Actually, if anything, I'm here to thank you as the Jewish community for converting us.
Because every blessing in my Christian life is the byproduct of your Jewish religion, your culture, your history.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
michael hennessey
I can't deal with these people.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and also.
michael hennessey
You literally can't.
elijah schaffer
There's no, no, we don't come from Jews.
So this is, this is, I'm going to debunk this.
Christians do not come from Jews.
That is not a thing.
It never was.
There's no distinction between the Old Testament faith and the New Testament faith.
It's one faith fulfilled in Christ.
There is no Judeo-Christianity.
Judaism is a religion invented after Christ to justify the rebellion of Jews who asked for Jesus to be murdered, did not want to accept that he rose from the dead, and could not believe that a temple was destroyed and fulfilled in the Messiah.
Now, the Jews of today are not genetically, or most are not genetically Hebrew, right?
They are not, they are not of Judah.
They're not Judaites either.
These are foreign people who have adopted and transformed or converted into a pagan religion that worships the Antichrist, okay?
Everyone who denies the Son, but says they believe in the Father, they deny both, God says, and they are actually of the spirit of the Antichrist.
This is what scripture says.
If you preach a different religion, you are preaching Judeo-Christianity, which is not Christianity.
It is a false belief system.
It cheapens the body of Christ because it says that God's chosen are genetically predisposed.
If you are a Judeo-Christian, you are worse than a Nazi or a white supremacist that you may hate because you also are saying, I hate identity politics.
I hate supremacists based on genes.
Everyone can find God.
That's a sick and horrible.
You can't be a Nazi and a Hitler lover and love Jesus.
Well, you can't be a Judeo-Christian and love Jesus.
You cannot be because it doesn't work together.
You are looking forward to, the Jews are looking forward to the coming of the Antichrist in the temple.
That's who they're looking forward to.
Christians, that's why there's neither Jew nor Greek, nor slave nor free, nor male nor female, meaning now the fulfillment of Christ.
There's one faith, and the faith is all those who believe in the finished work of Christ and are washed by the blood of Jesus Christ.
And anyone else who's not a part of that, we call those non-believers.
And it's like, well, there's no Christianity in the Bible.
Yeah, obviously, it's an Antiochian term.
It's given later to define people as little Christ.
michael hennessey
That's true.
elijah schaffer
That's true.
Yeah.
But that's my point.
There's also no, it's not Judaistic, Judeo-Christian.
Whereas faith in the one true God, which now is no longer through sacrifice in the temple, it is through the faith in Jesus Christ, and it is for all who believe on his name.
And so this idea, this dichotomy that there's like the Old Testament Jews that follow the Old Testament and Christians follow the New and the Old Testament, it's all incorrect.
It's not, this is not hard to follow.
It's one faith, one book.
It's made of 60, well, it's 66 parts, but it's one book.
And the truth of the matter is, is that what does it say?
The people who, like John said in Revelation, if anyone comes after me, even angels, they tell you that there's something that is truth, that they should be anathema, cast into death.
That is a false religion.
That includes Mormonism.
That includes Jehovah's Witnesses.
That includes, which I hate to accept, is Scientology, Vishnu, you know, Zenu.
michael hennessey
Zenu, man.
elijah schaffer
I really wanted to be a volcano spirit.
But I bring into retrospect here into consideration.
It's like, there's no, it's like, I'm a pastor.
Look at this guy.
Look at how he like acts like he's worth like less than them.
Like, I know I'm in your spot.
This is your promise.
It's like, dude, hey, man, you have the power of Christ.
Those who compel you, you said, I'm not going to try to convert you.
Sir, you're not just cucked.
You're not a representation of God.
michael hennessey
Not at all.
elijah schaffer
You are in a cult.
And it's hard for these people to realize they're cultists.
This is not Christianity.
It is a Jewish worshiping cult.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
It's crazy.
michael hennessey
We've kind of all been in a cult for a while, though.
If you look at it, like the way we've been taught about history, how we've been taught about World War II, what was really happening, and just over the years, how we have to give all this allegiance to Israel.
You know, I know before when I had my eyes opened and I started actually noticing, I was, you know, the same way.
I would believe anything they would say, and I was kind of following with the group.
And then after a while, when you start to look, it's really not that hard to find when you actually start to dig into it.
And then you say, okay, wait a second.
Everything we've been taught has been a lie.
The way our country is being ran is a lie.
You know, that's why that book's actually great, the Pat Buchanan book that you were mentioning, because it's a playbook of what they did before in the past.
And it shows the same kind of steps that they're taking then, they're taking now.
And it's just like, it's a mirror effect where you can see the same thing.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Yeah.
And by the way, yeah, I know that like, you know, depending on which Bible you have, it could be up to 73 books.
But I think the problem with those other five is it's hard.
There's debates whether they're inspired.
I mean, they might be in the Bible, but it's like, are these inerrant?
There's a lot of debates on that.
But I know universally across the board, Catholics, Protestants, evangelicals, which I consider evangelicals to be an offshoot of Protestantism and Orthodox all agree that there's at least 66 of these books that are inspired inherent word of God.
And there have been a lot of debates, you know, past that.
So that's why I say 66.
But there, and then some of you guys even have more traditional, you know, even consider some other books as part of the Bible, which again, that's a whole other debate in itself, but this is not a religious show.
I just kind of bring that up.
michael hennessey
But the Judeo-Christian thing, I mean, we're seeing all the people talk about it now as far as our political leaders.
You have Mike Johnson coming out and saying America was found on Judeo-Christian Christianism and all these other people coming out.
And it's just like, no, we're not going to start to adopt this language because that's the first thing that they like to do.
Anytime that they corrupt us in any way, they start with the language.
Once we start to use certain words, so for instance, even like transgenderism, instead of just saying, okay, this is a guy who's sick in the head and is a cross-dresser.
No, no, they're transgender.
They're their own thing.
It's different.
You know, that's the same thing they're doing with Judeo-Christian is that they want to go ahead and they want to hijack the Christian movement to make sure that it's used as a tool to help push any kind of Zionist ideas that they have.
elijah schaffer
No, it's true.
So, yeah, you guys can debate how many books are in the Bible.
I'll just let you do that on theological channels like Jay Dyer or Tim Gordon or whatever, because that's obviously.
michael hennessey
I need Google Translate when those guys talk.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, well, I'm just trying to make this a show in general for Christians.
You know, I'm not trying to make this a sectarian show.
It's for like one type of person or one church you go to.
My own personal beliefs, you know, are one thing, but I'm still forming mine.
Like, I'm just trying to figure out how not to be a blatant retard in my personal life.
You know what I mean?
Like, like, I'm being completely serious, you know?
michael hennessey
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
I have been really retarded most of my life.
So I'm just barely learning how to walk and I'm still falling down.
But the righteous man does fall seven times and he gets back up.
The Bible says the number of completion.
It's like, you do not stay down.
You don't give in and you don't let people judge you, you know?
You let God judge you.
And that's a very much, that's a bigger, that's a bigger burden to carry.
But going into this, I want to play an interview, a couple of super chats.
We're getting this interview with Vish Burrah, producer OAN.
We talk a little bit about what they talked about and this new fight to censor.
So now they're calling to censor Tucker.
Check this out.
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unidentified
Let's go.
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elijah schaffer
Said, oi Vey, Elijah.
Continue talking like this and you'll be Officer Tatum's next target.
michael hennessey
It's pronounced Talmud, Officer Talmud.
elijah schaffer
Officer Talmud.
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Said, we are God's chosen people, Christians.
unidentified
Let's go.
michael hennessey
Amen.
elijah schaffer
David JD123 said, if Jews can be represented as a whole or take credit for good things as a whole, why can't they take criticisms as a whole?
That's actually a true statement, huh?
That's actually very, very, very true.
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We went ahead and talked to Vish Burra, who, of course, you know, has been like, yeah, is he a little bit brown and a big boy?
Yeah, he's my brown big boy.
I love Vish.
Honestly, Vish has been a good friend.
He's a very good friend of our movement, a very good friend.
You know, Matt Gates worked with Matt Gates for years.
Got his back when the congressional committees were trying to come down.
And now that they're trying to take him out at OAN, Vish has got his back 150%.
Check out this out.
Vishbura is coming on here on Riff for the first time, producer and host there at OAN.
Let's jump into it.
Imagine if I had the Republican White Nationalist Coalition or the Republican Christian Coalition.
Maybe that doesn't sound as bad unless Christianity was both a religion and a race.
That might also be kind of weird, right?
Talk to me today about this new plan to cancel the uncancelable Vishburgh.
He's a political operative and producer at OAN, often guest host.
You can see him there.
Watch him regularly.
Vish, welcome to the Rift.
It's so good to have you here.
vish burra
Hey, thanks for having me on, Elijah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so dude, listen, man, like I mentioned, it's getting pretty crazy.
I want to play a clip here.
We had the Republican Jewish Coalition, Randy Fine, one of our senators here in our congressman here in Florida, was talking about Tucker Carlson.
And rather than just criticizing him lightly, listen to what he had to say.
randy fine
But I'm here for the kids down here because it's easy to talk about anti-Semitism on the left.
I want to talk about the dark force rising on our side.
Multiple speakers have talked about the rise of anti-Semitism on the right.
But it is not enough to speak in platitudes or generalities about the fight.
We must call evil by its name.
Five years ago, if I was talking to my father, who's watching, hi, Dad, if I was talking to my father at 8.59 p.m. at night, he would say, Randy, I got to go.
Tucker Carlson's going to be on.
But make no mistake, today, Tucker Carlson is the most dangerous anti-Semite in America.
He has chosen, he has chosen to take on the mantle of leader of a modern-day Hitler youth to broadcast and feature those who celebrate the Nazis, those who call for the extermination of Israel, to defend Hamas, to even criticize President Trump for stopping Iran's nuclear ambitions.
elijah schaffer
All right.
Randy Fine shrunk his hat and grew his waistline.
Although, you know, we could all lose a little bit of weight.
Vish, I wanted you to jump in here.
You know, you heard the delayed clap because the majority of the individuals, if you can show here to our producer, the majority of the individuals who are attending were already called up front to hold preprinted signs that read, Tucker, not MAGA.
This is a new psyop to let people know that the populist base is no longer MAGA, that everyone who was never Trumpers are the real MAGA.
Vish, what the hell is going on here?
What do you make of this?
vish burra
Well, first of all, I feel really bad for the kids that they managed to get up front with those signs because their faces and names are going to be out there for everyone to see with those signs up for no reason.
I mean, this is the RJC putting a target on those kids' backs in the first place.
They could have had that same message to, is this what our congressmen and our congresspeople are doing while the government is shut down?
Let me tell you, the actions in the Senate, they are the ones who have to decide whether to open or come to an agreement on reopening the government.
But the House can be in session and put forth legislation, pass legislation, and be on President Trump's agenda.
So they're not doing that either.
But the fact of the matter is, this actually comes down to the crux of it, Elijah.
At this Republican Jewish coalition, instead of talking about how they're going to further Trump's agenda, how they're going to further everything that essentially Americans voted for in the 2024 election, instead, they're over here crying about Israel.
At the Republican Jewish Coalition, an allegedly American political organization, I don't think they talked about the problems facing America and Americans, not once.
They all came together to cry about why Americans haven't decided to go forward and cancel Tucker Carlson yet.
So the fact is that they are tone deaf.
They are not, the message is not going through to these people.
And the more they do this game of trying to cancel people based on a policy disagreement over a foreign nation, the more Americans are waking up to the fact that they don't want any part of this.
And the sooner they can get past this Israel discussion, brouhaha, they can get back to solving problems for the American people.
elijah schaffer
Well, yeah.
And you know what?
And I think people do see the ridiculousness.
We see sort of like this mirroring of what the left did to sort of, you know, fabricate attacks on Trump in 2016.
Like they made it seem like Trump was Hitler.
And we had a, you know, it's the same play, right?
Tucker's, you know, the Hitler youth.
It's all about Nazis.
And, you know, Nazis, you know, my family fought against them, but, you know, the Holocaust and things aren't really things that sit heavily as a white Christian man.
I mean, you're, you know, you're a man.
I don't think you're Jewish.
I don't think this is your history.
I think you're an American just like me.
It's not, it doesn't really matter our race.
What matters is we do share a common American history here.
And it's not about what happened to a small minority of people.
And I mentioned that they were panicking because if you look at who was holding the signs, look at this.
I guess it's you and me, you know, hired our Jewish Zionist counterparts.
I mean, this is who they have representing their movement, right?
And, you know, this gets, you know, only 430,000 views, but gets 17,000 likes.
And even down here as well, you know, you have right here, unapologetic, unafraid.
I said, it's getting utterly embarrassing.
10,000 likes.
This is extremely high ratios.
So even when they're suppressing our content, they artificially boost their content.
The problem is, is that people agree with us because we're just expressing the opinions of the populace in that we don't want to serve Israel any longer.
And I don't think it's not the fringe right anymore.
I think that we've been effective in communicating the narrative that, you know, like they say, well, what about Ukraine?
We already disagree with Ukraine, but you don't have anyone telling us we have to support the Ukraine war on the Republican Party.
The left says that, but they've been totally fine with us criticizing Ukraine.
I think if they were, if there was Ukrainians in office and they were, you know, telling us we had to support Ukraine and we were flying Ukrainian flags every day and we were getting canceled and fired, you know, for not supporting Ukraine, I think that we'd have just as much of a problem.
That's not what's happening here, though.
We are getting canceled.
We are getting deplatformed.
We are losing our money and our voice if we don't want to support Israel above the U.S. That's the main problem, is it not?
vish burra
It absolutely is.
And it's been the problem for a while.
It's not just now, right?
It's everyone who's had something remotely negative to say, you know, people have gone after their careers, their ability to fly, their ability to bank, right?
And this is really the problem.
Americans see this, all right?
It's over.
We live in a different world than just 30, 40, 50 years ago.
All of these things that happened to these people, they're watching the criticisms being levied against Israel in real time.
And they're watching the Israeli supporters and Israel supporters and neocons and whoever.
They're watching their reactions in real time and watching how this progresses.
Guess what?
Americans don't like it.
They don't like that.
Freedom of speech is a core tenet, a core cultural tenet of being American, you know, and not have and being able to disagree without having to go after each other's lives and livelihoods.
And this and the reaction itself, Americans are processing as inherently un-American.
And so this is the main crux of the perception problem, the PR problem, and how it's being digested amongst the American body politic.
And so, hey, look, this is not our problem.
At the end of the day, Elijah, me and you both know, like, it's not a problem for me.
I can bit pick America all day, right?
It's them who has to do the shuffle between Israel and America, Ukraine and America, you name it.
I don't got to do that, Dance.
I have no problem.
My message is consistent since the day I participated in this movement to now, that I'm America first and everything, all my decision trees and every decision node that comes about will be prioritized and processed to what benefits America first.
And so everyone that I know, all my homies are on that side.
I don't know what these people got going on, but Americans are not going to cancel, are not going to tolerate being canceled.
And they're not going to tolerate this kind of rhetoric.
And this is really, really backfiring in a way that I don't think this Israel first crowd is ready to handle.
And once they realize that they can't cancel Tucker, I don't know what the next move after that is.
And I don't want to know what that next move is.
elijah schaffer
Well, look, I think you bring this up.
And I want to, I want to, you know, they say, okay, so why is it, right?
They're using, we're going to talk about some violence that they've introduced.
They're wondering why we're talking about Israel a lot now, right?
So I kind of mentioned it like an abusive spouse who's constantly hitting you and degrading you and bringing you down.
And then you, you know, you hit them back one time and they call the cops and they're like, what even caused this?
What even caused this reprobate reaction?
You go, well, for two years, you know, for your whole life, your whole marriage, you've been degrading and pushing violence and rhetoric in their face.
And maybe they're just fighting back.
Maybe they're just resisting and they're tired of accepting because it's kind of like the gay agenda.
It's like, well, why did we fight back so aggressively against the trans issue, against the gay issue?
Because for like 10 years, we're like, okay, just be gay, be gay, be gay, whatever, right?
Like, you know, just go ahead.
And then it was like, now your kids need to be gay and now you need to celebrate us.
And now we need to get, you know, your taxpayer dollars have to pay for our surgeries in the military.
And now we have transgender, you know, generals.
And you're going, okay, hey, hey, hey, you know, why are we fighting so badly against the LGBTQ stuff?
Because you didn't stop.
You didn't know where to draw the line and you pushed us past the point of patience.
And here's what I mean is you go, well, why don't you try to figure this out democratically?
Well, they're not going to let us.
Listen to what Lindsey Graham had to say.
unidentified
We will meet you on the battlefield of political discourse and we will meet you politically.
I want the world to know anti-Semitism, anti-Israel rhetoric, anti-Israel thought is not the road to being elected as a Republican.
You will lose.
elijah schaffer
So right there, Vish, I mean, you can weigh in on that.
He's saying, like, basically, if you are not pro-Israel, you will lose.
There's a lot to unpack on that statement.
What do you mean by that?
vish burra
I think you know, I think we know exactly what Lindsey Graham is trying to imply there, and that there is a future where the one of the top litmus tests in political primary, especially in Republican primaries, is going to be the Israel question.
And you're already seeing it play out now.
Lindsey Graham's primary opponent, Mark Lynch, has already stated that he's not supporting a single penny going to Israel.
He's already made that statement clear.
He's drawing that contrast.
There's another candidate in Texas who's running in a special election.
Her name's Carmen Maria Montiel.
She's also stated that she's not for this kind of foreign aid for Israel already.
She's put that up front.
It's already happening and it's 2025.
Down the road in 2026, 2027, 2028, it's going to be a clear line that people are going to start drawing that contrast on their opponents and saying, I'm not going to be blind and slavish to my fealty to Israel.
I will cut off the foreign aid.
I will do, you know, I will reassess this relationship in a way that benefits America and America first.
And it's going to be a flashpoint.
And so, and that future is inevitable.
And when that happens, I'm telling you, the MAGA base is going to be on the side of whoever picks America first, even in the toughest circumstances.
And look, they're not ready, bro.
MAGA has been playing smash mouth politics for a while, and we are going to keep doing it.
And in the face of this, they just re-energize us, quite frankly.
And we're so ready for this battle.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And Vish, as someone I've known you for a long time, you know, you know, you put up, I put up this meme here.
Let me see if I can find it.
Right here, it's Mark Levin, who, by the way, I used to work for.
I've been on Mark Levin's show plenty of times.
So I used to work for this guy.
You know, he's, for those of you that are the audio-only listeners, you can get the show on podcast Spotify.
Make sure you download the audio version, leave a five-star review, and you can get it read at the end of the show.
That's kind of a cool way to get on the show.
But right here, it's like, come on, he's poking with a stick to the flag.
Die for Israel.
unidentified
Please just die for Israel.
elijah schaffer
And I think what's coming down to this is, Vish, you know, we've worked with these people for a long time.
You and I both have been around this industry.
We've been around this political faction, a cross between media and the actual political landscape of the most powerful empire in the world.
And you know, firsthand, these are not serious people, but I want to tread carefully saying this, but I'm going to be honest, you know, if we definitely know there was motive to kill Charlie Kirk, right?
And somebody did do it, right?
So somebody did do it.
But with the amount of money and effort going into even try to discredit someone like Tucker, just for interviewing somebody like Nick Fuentez, not even, and I took that interview like Cernovich did, it was like an older man trying to reach out to Gen Z, let them know that, you know, hatred and misogyny, maybe all these things are not the way forward.
He was trying to sort of, you know, give them more of a path towards, you know, neutrality and being a little more balanced, maybe.
I didn't see anything about him promoting Nazism or white supremacy or hatred of anybody, maybe even to my own chagrin, right?
Maybe I would have liked to see him be a little more, you know, supportive of our nation's history and what our ancestors wanted.
But I do think when Mark Levin says this, and I want to read, I'm going to get your last thoughts on this.
Mark Levin directly said this.
We said we talked about it earlier in the show, but he says we're going to cancel them and deplatform them.
It's called the market system.
Mark Levin's ran of the Republican Jewish Coalition.
By the way, it's Tim Cast news for people that think that I'm like making that up.
If you just got here on the live stream, also James Lindsay, number one comic sword fighter and women's lingerie wearer, allegedly, according to reports and some pictures I've seen.
James Lindsay, anti-communist who checks out women's asses with his gay daughter, by the way, and posted that online, has sexual experiences with his kid.
Very odd situation there.
He claimed I'm a woman abuser.
I would say I would say, well, based.
No, I'm kidding.
No, I never abused any women, but I can tell you one thing.
I've also never had sexual experiences with my children.
James cannot say that.
James Lindsay said, it's happening now.
If you're on the fence, your opportunity to come back is rapidly closing if you don't take it.
Enjoy the last year of your career.
This is in response to a tweet from 429-2025 saying, Woke Red is a bubble that's detaching from MAGA.
Until it fully detaches, you can come back quietly.
Once it detaches, it will be far harder and require public repentance.
Available only to some.
These are very key words from an atheist, repentance, struggle sessions.
You know, you basically, we notice that there's a group that's not pro-Israel.
And not because they hate Israel or hate Jews, but because they love their country more, right?
It's not that I hate, it's that I love.
But you now have this thing where someone like this, you have, let me see where he's at.
Oh, you have Brad Palumbo, America's favorite homosexual with big ears.
You know, he said, have I just missed a part where anyone tried to silence Tucker?
It's certainly possible.
I've missed it, but I haven't seen anyone call for him to be banned from any platform or even targeting his sponsors for any kind of organized boycott, condemning or criticizing someone whose current work is reprehensible, even encouraging others to stop listening to or trust them isn't silencing them.
It's called having standards in response to Tim Poole.
And I just want to reread that again.
Did I miss it?
Yes.
We're going to cancel them and deplatform them.
It's called the market system.
Their complete mask off moment, Vish.
What do you think this means?
And do you think they're going to be able to weaponize institutional power and their money to actually pull this off and get rid of us?
vish burra
Well, I think there's no doubt about it.
First off, they're going to weaponize everything that they can to try to remove any dissent to their Israel First positions and their MIGA positions.
But to borrow a quote from James Lindsay on everything that James himself has said, Mark Levin has said, and Brad Palumbo has said, the iron law of woke projection never fails.
James Lindsay, I am proud to say as a patriotic duty, I helped cancel that man and made sure that his income went to 85% depletion and his speaking gigs went from 120 a year to seven a year.
And those are rookie numbers they need to keep going down.
elijah schaffer
What happened there?
vish burra
But there's that aspect.
Mark Levin, it's actually, again, projection.
This is now the marketplace of free ideas.
And when the marketplace of free ideas actually exists and dissent is actually allowed to flourish, this is the problem that actually the Republican Jewish Coalition, Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, all these people have is that the marketplace is too free for them.
And that's why they're trying to cancel and deplatform people that they don't like.
So that this, this is another case of projection.
And Brad Palumbo, another case of projection, is talking about nobody went after his sponsors or anything.
Is that why all these Israel first people are out there posting about heritage's 75K ad buys on Tucker's show, which is huge and actually gets an audience?
They're just mad because they can't demand 75K per ad read on their dwindling platform.
So this is all woke projection.
But do not forget a, you know, hit dog hollers.
And that's what you're going to see here is that these people will weaponize every part of the institution to keep their Israel first agenda going.
And it's only MAGA that can stand up and actually meet them at the point of attack and stop this.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, you know, I have to agree with you.
And to the last point, I want to hear from you, you know, we have a lot of individuals who are pretty nice people who are getting pulled into this.
One of those individuals is Jillian Michaels.
You can bring her up on the screen there.
She's an older woman, maybe senior citizen by now.
I don't know.
But she's very good looking for her age.
You know, I would say she's probably, what, 55, 50, 50 now?
Yeah, about, yeah, about 50, 55.
Maybe I'm wrong, but she's an older woman.
But she's done, you know, she's somebody I would respect because she looks good.
And that's what I respect in women.
No, I'm kidding.
Now it's like, she looks good.
That's all I care about.
But no, but maybe.
But no, she's taking care of herself.
She doesn't get into the feminist ploy.
She has a little bit of a Karen haircut.
It's okay.
But she genuinely has cared about free speech.
She's been on the money about the COVID stuff.
And she's like one of these people who sort of got left behind by the left.
You can take off the screen for a second.
We'll watch the clip in a second.
She's one of these people who got left behind by the left.
They say that you left the left.
But unfortunately, these people don't know what the right wing is.
They wouldn't know if it bit them in the ass.
They don't understand that we are a very, like, they don't understand how non-white people are white nationalists.
They don't understand, like, because there are people, it's like, well, there are people who want to live here who know that here means white society and culture.
And if the majority are not white, then we'll lose the society and the culture.
And they didn't come here to make this place India or Mexico.
They came here to live in a white society.
But unfortunately, now too many people are coming.
They worked hard or whatever it is to get here and to meet the standards of society they blended in.
Now there's a problem.
It's like, well, I don't understand.
Like this guy said, what do you mean white people have a homeland?
It's like, well, you don't understand yet, but you're telling us what the right wing is.
So this problem of a lot of liberals and ex-progressives are telling us nationalists, conservatives, who really do make up the base that got Trump into office in 2016.
We're the real nationalist movement that we don't know what we're talking about.
And she brings up the fact that, you know, her prophets of right-wing dogma, Dave Rubin, people like Dave Rubin and Brandon Tatum are even noticing that something's wrong.
Listen to this.
jillian michaels
But Tucker, we've all seen him go after guys like Ted Cruz and he did nothing, no pushback.
And when you see Jordan Peterson warn about the woke right, and then you see guys like Dave Rubin and guys like Brandon Tatum and women like Chicks on the Right start to say like, hey, guys, this, you cannot mainstream this.
This cannot be normalized.
I'm now coming out to say the purple people will not have this.
And you are handing this win to the left.
And the left are going to be the squad.
And I just, I, I'm so disappointed that that the right is doing this.
This is my, this is my shot across the bow.
Do not normalize this behavior.
This needs to be isolated, marginalized, and condemned, period.
End of story.
I don't believe in demonized and condemned, period.
End of story.
I don't believe in deplatforming people.
He should have his own show.
He should do his own thing and he can spew his vitriol in the dark crevices of the web.
But when mainstream people on the right that are respected and have massive audiences normalize this, I promise you that party will lose in 28 and the ramifications are going to be catastrophic.
elijah schaffer
Vince, there's a lot to unpack.
I just want to point out, you know, she barely cracked about 10,000 views on this episode on YouTube and is talking about, you know, in the dark corners, Tucker, who's getting millions of views an episode.
Who's really reflecting the people, Tucker or Jillian?
Do you make of these people who cannot wrap their head around that there's a real populist movement in the United States and that they're not representative of it?
vish burra
Yeah, look, these are people that are expressing opinions about things that they know nothing about.
The fact of the matter is, is that this country's really been has its sides picked mostly.
80% of the country, maybe even more, kind of falls on either the left or the right.
And we've only been fighting for a tiny sliver of these purple people, 20% on either side to go either way during an election.
And even that number is slowly starting to dwindle as the left goes crazy.
And, you know, Americans are ready to ally with whoever's going to meet the challenge head-on first against the communist left.
And that has been the populist right, the MAGA right, because we've been unapologetic in how we go about fighting them, addressing them, whether it's politically in the media, et cetera.
And so Jillian Michaels, nice lady.
I got no problem with her.
I disagree with her, but she is not the voice of anybody important in particular.
elijah schaffer
Wait, you think Dave Rubin?
vish burra
Sorry.
elijah schaffer
Sorry, she's, but dude, but she called on Dave Rubin and Brandon Tatum saying they chicks on the right.
Who's chicks on the right?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
But, but Brandon Tatum.
You're telling me that Dave Rubin is not the authoritative source of conservatism?
I'm shocked, man.
We got breaking news here.
Vish is blowing the lid off here.
vish burra
No, Dave Rubin is not the authoritative face of conservatism.
Neither is Brandon Tatum.
None of these people really are.
And especially after they went masked off with the Israel First stuff, there's nothing I can do for them, unfortunately, but they've picked their side.
So the fact of the matter is, Tucker speaks for most of the American people.
Everybody trying to cancel him speaks for some tiny faction or non-existent faction.
They're making it up in their head.
They don't know what they're talking about.
The populist right is ascendant and it's going to continue to be ascendant as long as they focus on America first priorities.
And that means sometimes, a lot of times, challenging Israel.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
Vishburgh, if people want to find you and follow you, I'm going to bring up your page here.
You're on X. You're all around.
Check this out right here.
You can follow him.
Let me get this out of there.
It is Vish Burrah, V-I-S-H-B-U-R-R-A.
You can see that there.
If you are on the audio podcast, you can follow him.
Is there anywhere else people can track you, keep up with you?
Because genuinely, man, like I love your X account.
I'm telling people to follow it.
I've known you for years.
You've been just as much of an insane spastic psychopath that should have never been allowed.
We should have never been allowed into this political spectrum.
And we're pulling people to the right with us.
You know, we're lighting it up and we're not going to go.
We're not going anywhere.
What are you doing these days?
How can people support you and keep up with your work?
vish burra
Yeah, X is my biggest platform.
Follow me there for my unhinged thoughts.
And then also catch the Matt Gates show on One American News Network on 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific, Monday through Friday on One American News Network.
That's where the message that we craft here at the Matt Gates show really gets out.
And I'm glad to be part of that project and help get that message out to our American First Patriots out there.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
Vish Burra, thank you so much for coming on.
vish burra
Thanks, Laja.
elijah schaffer
All right, let's get back into the show.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and goys, we're getting back to our show today.
Vish Burra from OAN in the chat.
If you're just joining us today on Rumble, we've got a bit of a split audience now, but I'm really happy.
We've got about 430 people on Rumble, about 250 on YouTube.
And we're going to get these numbers up.
We're going to be getting a lot more content coming out.
So very happy.
Shout out to some of you in the chat.
Plus, of course, we always have our locals chat, which I'm very, very happy about.
Shout out to everybody on locals.
You can join at a live shaver.locals.com for an exclusive segment that will be up.
And if you like these interviews, I'm going to try to include more interviews into the show instead of having to bring guests out.
It's a good way I can get more higher profile people.
Like he's in Los Angeles, hard to fly him out for like a you know, a 20-minute interview.
And some of these people, you've said, like, you know, I might do more solo shows in the future to open up time for Henny and the rest of the crew to work on their own projects, which I think is we're going to need more projects to open up the adventory.
So that way, you know, we'll be using this show to promote their shows.
So maybe Henny will just be on the show on like Fridays.
We'll be producing his show on the other days.
Maybe Brayden will be on Wednesdays.
They're going to do solo shows and we're going to kind of push them off not so that they're so that they're actually contributors to this show.
And then it's better than being a co-host is starting your own show and having your own project.
It's something like I told him.
I want everyone here to have their own projects.
So if I ever died, it's like, you have your own thing, you know, you can kind of keep it going and we'll develop it.
And luckily, this set's nice because you can just switch the background.
It's a new set.
So it's not a bad thing.
Anyway, all right, jumping back and shout out, Vince Lasagna, St. J, Jaboya 3010, Vince Lasagna, the rest of you guys who are in the chat.
Also, Doomsday Cracker sending a meme here on locals.
Check this out.
Apex Shakur.
Also, to our new producer here, can you also note with Brian to fix the NDI so we're not seeing all that shit on the top, all the tabs and stuff?
Not now.
He doesn't need to fix it now, but just in the future, we can kind of get that selected.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
Let's jump back in the show.
So very interesting stuff.
We have some interesting takes here.
Joel Berry was trying to cancel Tucker.
And Joel Berry said, I believe in Tucker's free speech right to be a tard.
So now this is the problem with Joel Berry.
Joel Berry is a name caller.
And I've mentioned to you guys when people start using names or slander, which you see with Matt Gates, they slandered him, call him a pedophile.
With me, they're just bringing up like stupid sexual gossip and slander from years ago that's just been like disproven.
And now they're bringing that back up.
But nowhere are they calling any of us wrong?
michael hennessey
No, they never do that.
elijah schaffer
They're calling us retarded, which we are, though.
We are.
michael hennessey
We embrace this.
elijah schaffer
We are retard maxing.
And the free speech right, here's what I said.
And the free speech right of the entire conservative movement to call him one and then ditch him for better voices.
I responded to this.
I'm going to take it off the screen here for a second.
I responded to Joel Berry.
These guys are quoting me every day.
I said, quote, ditch him for better voices just means to censor deplatform and cancel him because he is America first.
These Israel loyalists aren't fooling anyone with half a brain.
They write things like this because they think you're stupid and can control you.
Disrespectful elitists.
And that's actually what's going on here.
So what they're doing is they're calling us names.
They're bringing up slander and gossip.
And they're also bringing up unfounded accusations against Matt Gates and others.
But they're not trying to say Matt is wrong, right?
That's what Vish is pointing out.
They're coming after character attacks, not after logical debunking.
And, you know, Brad Palomo is I brought that up with Vish.
If you just joined the thing, you know, Brad Palomo was saying, oh, when did we say we're trying to cancel Tucker?
I'm like, literally, James Lindsey and Mark Levin, the head of the kosher right, said they're going to cancel.
They use the word deplatform.
michael hennessey
Tatum actually posted too.
He put on a post.
He was like, no one's trying to cancel Tucker.
And then it had like community notes right under him.
And then really?
Yeah, it has a link.
It's in the doc.
unidentified
Oh, let me go to that.
michael hennessey
So it calls him out and actually attaches the video as well.
elijah schaffer
Where is that?
By the way, I don't know where that's at.
michael hennessey
Let me see here.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah.
Before you do that, I want to say kind of one of the crazy things here is that Mark Levin did come to cancel.
And I bring this topic up because listen to this.
Here's what Mark Levin had to say.
Watch.
mark levin
I've been fighting these bastards, whether it's Tucker Carlson or whether it's Nick Fuentes.
And I've been looking over my shoulder looking for help.
And you know what?
I found?
elijah schaffer
I've been looking for help.
mark levin
Nothing.
elijah schaffer
Good.
mark levin
Nothing.
elijah schaffer
Fucking fat bitch.
Sorry, I shouldn't say.
I thought we are.
mark levin
We're here today to do something about this.
elijah schaffer
Sorry.
mark levin
What do you mean we don't cancel people?
We canceled David Duke.
Donald Trump canceled David Duke.
We canceled Pat Buchanan.
We canceled the John Birch Society.
We canceled Joseph Sobrin.
We canceled pornography on TV.
We cancel stuff all the damn time.
Hitler admires, Stalin admires, Jew haters, American haters, Churchill haters.
You're damn right we're going to cancel them and deplatform them.
It's called the market system.
They don't have a lifetime job like a bureaucrat who we're going to protect.
And if they're your friend, there's something wrong with you.
No Hitler admirer, Holocaust denier, platformer should be anybody's friend, as a matter of fact.
You don't get to wrap your psychotic, mental, unhinged, Nazi, Klan, jihadist bullshit around American patriotism.
You don't get to claim you're MAGA in America first when you're lining up with the Marxists and the Islamists and Hamas and the terrorists.
The cowards.
We're surrounded by cowards who have microphones, who have TV cameras, who have websites, who have columns.
Cowards.
It's spelled C-A-R-L-S-O-N.
It's spelled F-U-E-N-T-E-S.
It's spelled O-W-E-N-S.
It's spelled B-A-N-N-O-N.
It's spelled Marjorie Trader Green.
You can figure that out yourself.
And they're not alone.
How are we going to attack the Mamdanis and the Talibs and the Omars and the Sanders and the rest of them when in our own house this poison is spreading?
We've got to take care of business.
We can fight the enemy on the other side.
But the problem is the more daunting problem, the more complicated problem is when they're in our house.
elijah schaffer
This is in his house.
michael hennessey
But here's the part of this whole thing.
unidentified
Go ahead.
elijah schaffer
No, I'm saying.
So you know that he was one of the people who canceled Pat Buchanan.
michael hennessey
Oh, he's one of them.
elijah schaffer
Oh, he's one of the main people.
michael hennessey
Well, I'm not surprised.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
michael hennessey
So that's when he's like, like, what is this little hat in a bunch?
elijah schaffer
This is what I love.
They're like, they're telling us we're not MAGA.
And then he goes, I look around for help and there's no one's there.
It's like, yeah, because you're not representing the base.
unidentified
No.
elijah schaffer
Like, it's like, well, there's nobody there because the base isn't there.
And that's my point about this argument.
I am not, we're not the fringe of the right wing.
We are the right wing.
And this is what they're mad about.
They're mad because their censorship of us hasn't been successful.
Shout out to Elon Musk, who things have been worse for me on X personally since Elon bought it.
It's been worse.
My traction is worse.
Everything's worse.
But it's not about me.
Overall, all this right-wing nationalist stuff would have been censored under Twitter 1.0.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And we actually had to try to be taken seriously.
I had to be a journalist.
That's when I first called myself a journalist.
You know what I mean?
And I worked for, dude.
Man, isn't it crazy?
Like you look at this picture.
Let me find it for a second.
Give me a second.
You look for a picture and you realize that like, you know, everyone's debating about Stuckey.
Who's that?
There we are.
Look at that.
Elijah Schaefer and Ali Stuckey lay it down.
Expose the truth with a swollen, alcoholic face.
Right?
You go down and it's like Elijah Schaefer and Mark Levin.
What does it say about that, by the way?
There's no information about direct collaboration.
That's interesting because last time we used to look it up, they used to say that we did have a show together because last time I checked, there was.
Check this out.
Thoughts on Mark Levin?
I was asking that back in 2012 of this year.
And that's an interesting question.
Thoughts?
michael hennessey
My thoughts on him.
Oh, I'm not a big fan.
I think you had some thoughts when we thought the mic was muted.
elijah schaffer
You know, Mark Levin once lived at my house.
We got him out of my house by putting a hose down the hole in the yard.
And he came out the other end, you know?
It's like a little mole.
michael hennessey
Well, they are fans of tunnels.
That's for sure.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, he's a digger.
michael hennessey
But this whole thing where they're on stage and they're just yelling like, okay, you're not putting Israel first, then you're not America first.
I still can't understand how people aren't grasping this.
It's completely unrelated.
It's a whole nother country.
They are not us.
So if we are not agreeing with everything they're saying and we do want America to be first worthy enemies, it's just, it's just, it's crazy.
elijah schaffer
Well, look, and they're attacking.
Look, look at this.
You got Wasson Watchco, who's like, hey, I figured out why the woke Reich loves Pat.
You guys, get a similar naming structure down.
You're getting confused.
It's Woke Reich, Woke Reich.
michael hennessey
Well, we had a bunch.
You were the leader?
elijah schaffer
Hey, can you make sure to message Josh?
Message Dylan that we need a woke.
We're going to get a woke Reich shirt out real soon.
Woke Reich.
That's really base.
In like German lettering.
Oh, that's a really cool shirt, Woke Reich.
michael hennessey
Yeah, I'll rock it.
elijah schaffer
You know what I mean?
You know what?
It's funny.
Woke Reich.
Someone's going to steal that.
We need that.
We need that shirt.
Part of the Woke Reich.
michael hennessey
We should get the website, too.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
No, but somebody was saying, you know, it's like, it's like, no, but so Joel Berry was like, okay, maybe he wasn't right about everything, Lol, about Pat Buchanan.
They're mocking this guy now.
And I go, The Kosherite is attacking an 87-year-old man, Pat Buchanan, ruthlessly the last seven days.
Why?
They're afraid that you're going to see his warnings in the 90s that prophesied how they were going to ruin the USA.
And they did.
Read where the right went wrong.
Guys, read that book.
If you're an audio-only listener, go read that book, Where the Right Went Wrong.
Because you don't think you finished it, did you?
Go finish it.
No, go finish it.
unidentified
Go finish it.
michael hennessey
Yeah, you have to get a life.
elijah schaffer
It's a really good book.
And I've been reading a lot more.
I'm getting disciplines down.
Guys, you will see things are going to be transforming.
I'm trying to make some real life changes in my daily day-to-day.
I always say this, man.
If you hear that I did something stupid as hell and I sin or something stupid, it's probably true because I am kind of stupid and I do stupid things sometimes.
But I'm still trying now, at least to make real changes.
That doesn't mean I'm ever going to be able to not be a sinner, but I can at least try not to.
And you know what?
If I fall, I'm going to get back up.
And I think that people don't care anymore about being perfect.
I found out a new term, by the way, from a friend of mine.
What's his name?
Let me see his name real fast.
I want to give a shout out to this guy who's really cool.
There's a guy out there I want you guys to pay attention to who's a really nice guy.
His name is Gabriel Huddleson.
And he just debated Andrew Wilson.
And I got introduced to this new phrase called seed sower Christians.
You heard of this?
unidentified
No.
elijah schaffer
All right, I'm going to explain to you what that is.
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I thought it's interesting, right?
They're afraid because Pat Buchanan warned.
He goes, This is what Pat Buchanan said, watch his interviews.
He goes, if the Zionists and the neocons take over, there's going to be white people are going to be demonized.
We're going to have anti-white rhetoric.
michael hennessey
I think I've heard this from somebody else before, too.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I know.
Some people steal all of his talking points and repackage them.
That's true.
michael hennessey
I mean, it doesn't make them not true what he's saying, though.
What he's saying is an absolute fact.
elijah schaffer
Well, yes, and you're like, this is, you know, I cannot believe who came up with these ideas.
Well, it's Patrick Buchanan's books.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
But that's not a bad idea.
I mean, maybe we should be pushing more of his stuff.
I say we should too.
michael hennessey
Oh, I think so.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
A lot of times people are like, you stole it from this guy.
Actually, he stole it from Patrick Buchanan.
Pretty much word for word.
If you read where the white right went wrong, it sounds like a Gen Z podcaster from 2025.
It does, right?
michael hennessey
Yeah, yeah.
elijah schaffer
These are all, but it's it, which is the point is, it's not to mock anyone.
It's to say Patrick Buchanan was lost.
They buried him.
And he warned of three things.
We would have endless wars in the Middle East.
Israel would have massive influence in our country to where we would stop representing the white Christian right.
And three, we'd have migration, replacement migration, whites will become minorities.
michael hennessey
Which we have.
elijah schaffer
Which have all come true.
And that's why they're mad because if you read his stuff and you go, dude, if you think Nick Fuentes is telling you what's going on, how does Nick Fuentes know what's going on?
Nick Fuentes is a firm follower of Patrick Buchanan.
That's where a lot of places he's getting his ideas from.
But if you're like me and you've been reading Patrick and you know what Patrick is, that's why I always wonder.
I'm like, I don't really like know what the poll is.
By the way, I love Nick.
This is like, go watch Nick Fuentes.
michael hennessey
I was talking about a painter, but you know, no, no, I know actually I'm saying, no, go watch him.
elijah schaffer
But if you look at this, well, dude, I don't want to connect them to the painting.
unidentified
I was trying to say just saying there has been warning signs for the moment.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but he came in.
michael hennessey
But I'm going to say, no, but he's yes, I get it.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah.
But here's what's oh man, I have so much work to do for Influenceable at the end of the night here.
But if you want to see, interestingly enough, you know, they go, you know, today you have this, right?
You notice something pretty interesting here about the sorry, if you want to notice something pretty interesting about the right wing here, but bot ya, bot ya on the um on News Nation, the new host, you'll notice a necklace that they're wearing.
Uh, people always say, why do you point out that they're Jewish?
I don't point it out.
They wear necklaces.
michael hennessey
Oh, they want you to know.
elijah schaffer
It's fair.
If you say, oh, Elijah's, you know, leaning into Christianity, I'm like, well, I want to you, an anti-Christian.
It's like, well, dude, you're wearing a cross.
Like, you want, obviously, you're, you're, you're unashamed of it.
Yeah, so Batya, who recently told us all that we got to be really thankful for Jewish influence because without them, we wouldn't have the progressive left.
She said this.
She's like, she's like, you got to love Jews because without them, you wouldn't have feminism and transgenderism.
She says this all.
michael hennessey
Yeah, thank you, Zionists, for bringing out the integration of blacks and neighborhoods and pornography, transgenderism.
elijah schaffer
You got to love it.
michael hennessey
You know, the open borders, bringing everybody over, causing wars.
So we just go ahead and adopt any other country that they decide to blow up during the mid-terrorism as well.
Islamic terrorism, you know, creating things like Hamas and all these other organizations and then screaming that we have to go destroy them and take over whatever country that they want.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, we appreciate that.
elijah schaffer
Well, look at what she says.
She's like, let's listen to a Jewish woman talk about right-wing infighting.
batya ungar-sargon
Here with us to get my temperature down a little bit is comedian, commentator, and host of Ami's House podcast, Ami Kozak.
Ami, thank you so much for being here.
You are following this very closely.
What has been your reaction to all of this?
unidentified
Well, good to be with you.
Thank you for having me.
What I will say is, you know, there's all these calls to unite the right and people who want to put out this message of unity.
I think the worst thing you can do to keep a coalition together is become the very caricature that your opponents have been calling you for years.
This idea of uniting with people who seek to divide you.
This idea of uniting with people who want to demoralize your message and want to become the very character that the left called the right for years, which were Nazis and white supremacists, which was a smear, which caused the left to implode.
And now they're saying, let's become that very thing.
I think it will have the exact same effect on the right.
And to me, this isn't cancel culture.
This is standing up for actual conservative ideas.
And I thought we all agreed.
elijah schaffer
Okay, let me just tell you this.
So Batya is a leftist, right?
And Kozak is another comedy guy.
What are these comedy guys coming in lecturing us?
He's a comedian.
Okay.
And by the way, they use that against Dave Smith, who's also Jewish all the time.
Like he's a comedian.
He's not a commentator.
Okay, Joel.
Okay, Seth.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Okay, Amy Kozak.
michael hennessey
Unless it's to their benefit.
elijah schaffer
Well, how do you?
So this is what I'm saying.
It's a uniparty thing.
You have Batia leftist and Kozak, who's right-wing, but they're both Jewish.
And so they're both like, we got to stop what?
What are the chances you have two Jewish people that make up like a percentage of the population that just happen to both be on the screen at the same time lecturing us about infighting?
Guys, it might be a little biased, you know?
You get two Jewish people.
This is the point: they get each other's backs because they're supremacists.
They're not about truth.
And it's like, we don't want whites.
It's like, they're like, we, we're just two Jews talking.
Why do these white people want what is it that they want?
I don't understand.
Dude, we want to be left alone.
Okay.
I brought this up.
I'm not, I'm getting tired of having to, you know, retweet the reality here.
You know, when you see things like this, Omar Fatah from Minnesota's right, this is the guy running for mayor.
He looks like a wart.
He looks like a finger wart that you freeze dry off your palm.
unidentified
Look at this. Assalamu alaikum. Assalamu alaikum. Somalia.
Somalia.
Hiran state.
Maw Island.
Maw Island.
Early morning wai.
Hadda ila November 4.
I need your.
michael hennessey
He looks like a Somalian earthworm Jim or something else.
elijah schaffer
Bro, I follow, I saw birds trying to eat him in the dirt after it was raining.
You know, he looks like he looks like an earthworm.
You're right.
But it's like, dude, that is a problem.
And everyone's like, are you racist?
Well, yes, I am.
If that's what you mean by racism, it's that I see there's a distinct difference.
I don't want a Somalia.
Like Somalia.
michael hennessey
If he wants to do that in his country, he can do that in his country.
No problem.
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Do that over there.
I have no problem with it.
It's when it comes to here in our own country where they're trying to change everything, you know, the demographic, they're trying to change our politics.
You know, it's yeah, that I'm against.
So if he wants to do a smiley, doing smile.
elijah schaffer
No, we have to double down.
michael hennessey
But they also change the flag, too.
They have the is he's in Minnesota, right?
Then they like try to change the Minnesota flag last year to look more Somalian.
Like, this is crazy.
elijah schaffer
No, they did, but I'm saying, like, it's like, okay, so I bring that up because it's not about Jews.
I don't think Jews are like the only problem or that Jews themselves are the problem.
I'm not saying anything like that.
What I do think is crazy when you have a leftist batya and a right-wing populist, you know, Kozak, and they're both coming together saying, we've got to attack this faction on the right.
Why are you teaming up with the left?
Oh, well, that would mean that you're not really, you're teaming with the left to destroy something in the right.
So you're not for the right.
Levin admits that there's no one behind him.
Who's behind him?
It's the institutional power and the money.
Levin admitted yesterday that they put billions of dollars to control the conservative movement.
He admitted that.
And they come and they're like, well, why are you mad about this?
Why are you bringing this up?
And you go, dude, guys, you're destroying our nations.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And this has never happened in the history of our countries.
We've been ascending.
And now that we have Jewish people in power, our countries are declining.
And I don't want people that are bringing the decline of our nation.
And you see how ridiculous people are.
They talk to you with such pride, such prestige.
There's one of these really bad faith actors that I want to bring up.
You know, they act like this is our schedule, right?
So they're always like, this is who you are every day.
1 p.m. hit the gym, 2 p.m. to 11 p.m.
Israel is our top enemy.
unidentified
Enemy.
Cut off the goddamn funding.
You're taking my money to murder Palestinian children.
You goddamn racists.
We've given Israel $310 billion.
And then Israel comes and says, You owe us.
Israel controls America.
elijah schaffer
Israel is our top pretty accurate, actually.
Now, take me off the screen.
michael hennessey
Pretty accurate.
elijah schaffer
No, but I wanted to point an exact quote of how crazy these people are.
Oh, you got that right here, right?
You got that right here?
You acting like a leftist.
No one is canceling Tucker.
People are calling him out for his bullshit.
It's okay for him to call people out.
He called us heretics, and someone said, Mark Levin called for Carlton to be canceled on the stage.
unidentified
And that edited the video as well.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it's but like, let me go down here real fast.
That's so funny.
Come on, die for Israel.
There's an individual named Pelochi.
Oh, yeah.
David Peto Lachiccio Pachucci.
Bring him up.
So David Pachucci Leo, Pookie, Pookie Boy.
We'll just call him David Pookie Boo.
Mr. Pookie Boo responded to me because Seth Dillon tweeted this.
Rush said in 2019 that it was true at the time, but much has changed since then.
The fringe is not so fringe anymore, in large part because prominent voices on the right are welcoming it into the mainstream or staying silent as they watch it happen.
He quoted an article saying, Rush Limbaugh, nobody I know on the Republican side even knows any so-called white nationalists.
They are so small, they are so fringe, but the media is trying to say that they are the Republican Party, that they are Trump's base, and that Trump is one of them.
About 3.4K likes.
Oh, that's not his thing.
His original post here.
1.9 K likes, right?
1.9 K likes, 280,000 views.
So I respond and I get 3.4K likes with half like a quarter of the views.
Do you see the popularity?
Like they could suppress your views, but my audience is more supportive of the things I say than his audience.
This isn't like a comparison contest.
It's just like, hey, that's why I don't care about views.
It's about the quality.
Like you can force something onto the network television and get a million viewers tonight, but does that mean you're really affecting the conversation?
People like myself, maybe mine or so, are affecting the conversation.
That's why they're mad.
And I wrote this to him.
I said, Seth Dylan does not believe white people are entitled to their own homeland, but he will fight you, crush you, and gatekeep you if you don't fight for the Jews to have their own homeland.
It's hypocrisy.
It's a hypocrite, right?
And people agree with that.
And someone said, and which homeland is that?
Literally, a guy who has a Ukrainian flag in his bio.
And David Pookie Boo.
Pookie boy.
Hey, David.
unidentified
Pookie Bookie, how are you doing, DSP Petucci?
elijah schaffer
He said, what is the white people homeland?
I love this, this, this, this thing.
Like, what even is that?
Two major strikes against your rationale.
Okay, guys, he's giving me two strikes, guys.
michael hennessey
Damn.
elijah schaffer
I got two strikes against me.
Christian dumb isn't supposed to be racially identitarian.
All races are equal in value.
When did I say anything about Christianity in this post?
I didn't mention Christianity at all.
michael hennessey
Pookie Bears pissed.
elijah schaffer
Pookie boys.
Pookie Boys angry.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Pookie boy.
Hello, my lady.
unidentified
My name is David Pookie Boo.
elijah schaffer
Welcome to my rationale.
He says, Two Americas built on the rejection of caste systems and racial supremacy.
No, it's not.
It's just, it's not.
He goes, it's about liberty and individual responsibility.
No, it's not, dude.
You know who popularized that idea?
Dinesh D'Souza.
Dinesh D'Souza and Dennis Prager.
One of which is Indian and one of which is Jewish.
And Indians are just Jews that are brown.
But I like Dinesh and I like Prager's always been kind to me.
You know, I was at breakfast with Aldo Budazzoni.
He was like one of their big stars there at Prager.
And I was laughing because I was having breakfast with him.
unidentified
We had a Jewish bakery eating bagels.
elijah schaffer
And people know, you know, bagels weren't invented by the Jews, but the Jews identified with them because even when they give you bread, they have to steal a piece out of the middle.
They can never give you a full bread, you know?
They always take a little center out and then they resell it as a donut.
You know, then they fry it.
So they take your full bread and they break it into pieces and sell you it separately.
It's a genius.
But yeah, they're the ones who came up with this America's an idea thing, right?
In the 80s with Reagan.
This is a whole transmission at the end of the Cold War.
It's to move towards Zionism.
But, you know, I was with Aldo and this guy walks up, which is rare when you're with someone and someone recognizes both of you.
This is yesterday.
He's like, hey, Aldo, Elijah, I just want to let you know I like, he goes, I respect the hell out of both of you.
And this is rare.
We live in a Jewish city.
I'm like, what's going on here?
And he goes, Aldo, my kids watch you and Prager, you and Elijah.
I've been following you for years and I watch everything that you say.
And then Aldo looked at me.
He's like, this guy must have been so confused.
I go, yeah, you heard though.
His ignorant kids watch you.
But the smart dad, he watches me.
I go, the guy, he's been watching me for years.
His kids enjoy your slop, Aldo.
No, but I'm joking.
I love all the, all those very intelligent.
He's super bright.
He now works with James O'Keefe.
But I was like laughing because he kind of brought this up.
It was like, my kids watch you because that's what's fed to them on the algorithms, but I find you, I watch you.
michael hennessey
By the way, surprising.
elijah schaffer
He knew both.
And what my point is, is that it's saying like, you're not going to like, Prager doesn't have a control.
It's not just like, oh, I mentioned you, Aldo, or like some weirdo that's just like, I like you, Elijah.
It's like, so the normal guy who's in the mainstream is like, I'm paying attention.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
Now, we're going to have an interview in a second with a grandma who's been paying attention.
But the problem is now is the average person, like, guys, life isn't good for us.
Life is bad for the normal American.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
It's like you are.
By the way, someone said this.
We're going to have the grandma on.
It was ironic.
Someone's like, you don't talk to anybody who's normal, which, by the way, we have a normal grandma on.
And I don't mean this disrespectfully.
I go, my co-host is literally just a normal guy.
Like, not a guy.
No, I mean, he's been hiding.
He did go to Harvard.
His family's been here for 300.
He's been, no, but just like, you're a normal guy.
michael hennessey
You don't hear.
I appreciate that.
elijah schaffer
No, but you're, you're, no, you're a normal, like, meaning, like, yes, you always find out that's like, I'm saying, like, you know, Erica Kirk, you find out she's connected to like Israel and Raytheon.
There's no, like, yes, your family's history here, and they do, you know, they do have wealth and stuff, but I mean, like, my family was poor.
unidentified
Okay, well, you're Irish, right?
michael hennessey
Yeah, yeah, we, we, we, Irish, Italian, and French, but I'm saying, like, you're not some guy that has some secret agenda and some family far from me.
elijah schaffer
People accuse me of that.
It's kind of true.
There is, there is that.
michael hennessey
I grew up in low-income housing, um, you know, my whole life.
Yeah, it's, it's never went to a great school, moved out at 14 years old, been taking care of myself.
elijah schaffer
When you meet my dad, you're like, oh, I can see where things changed.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I mean, I love you, dad.
I love you to death.
I meant like, but you can see that, like, definitely the family switched.
My grand, my grandfather was mentally ill, like, very.
He's dead.
He just died a few weeks ago and a couple months ago now, actually.
And my grandfather was very mentally ill.
And, you know, mental illness is a serious thing in that generation, you know.
But like, it's crazy because he just passed away.
He owned multiple homes in LA, had a lot of money.
And, you know, I'm not going to get into the details, but it's like, you know, that's not good to the kids.
It's the boomer generation, really, the silent boomer generation really left us with nothing.
And sometimes we do blame my dad, the boomers, but also like their parents' generation also like kind of started it.
Like, yeah.
Like they did kind of just like, there was neglectful fathers.
They rejected Christianity as well.
You know, we, but by the way, because by the way, the shift in the economy happened in 1914.
Like it happened as the Jews.
michael hennessey
I've given up on boomers.
I hate to say it.
elijah schaffer
I gave up.
And I love myself.
unidentified
Yes.
michael hennessey
I'm one of those people who is always like, okay, we just need to help convince everybody.
We just need to show them the truth and then they'll understand.
But with boomers, it's just, you just go in circles and then, you know, they repeat the same talking points.
When you overcome them, they storm off.
So yeah, I've given up on boomers.
elijah schaffer
By the way, if you're watching on Rumble, make sure you subscribe to YouTube.
But what I meant about normal thing is like, you're not some guy who's got an agenda.
michael hennessey
No.
elijah schaffer
You're an American who the system isn't working for you anymore.
michael hennessey
I'm just sick and tired of it.
I wanted to try to at least make a difference.
elijah schaffer
Correct.
It doesn't work.
So that's you're here because you have to be.
Because there's, it's like, it's like, okay, I could make more in constructions than that, but it's like, for what?
michael hennessey
Well, construction really, well, I was in the business world before.
I worked in sales.
You could make more information.
Yeah, it could make more.
But then I went into construction just so I could pursue the news industry.
elijah schaffer
But at the same time, then you go there and you see all the problems.
These like Mexicans like making shitty homes and builders and loans that are like, you know, flattening out and, you know, random immigrants and India.
michael hennessey
They're ruining everybody over.
elijah schaffer
You're going, okay, maybe we got to figure this out.
So, guys, if you're watching this show, share it with people.
Like, one of the way musicians grow is sharing it.
Shows like this that are suppressed by the algorithms.
Just so you know, we're going to revamp slightly offensive starting this week.
We're going to be releasing content.
That channel's cooked from the censorship.
We're going to try to get more of those people over here.
Even if we get five to 10,000 views a video, I'm going to really use those videos saying subscribe to our channel, bring them over here.
But we interviewed.
So by the way, so speaking of this, people are getting tired of this.
Now, I want to caveat this and say this to Tyler Boyer of Turning Point.
I don't believe, I don't like gossip, and I know some gossip is mentioned in this video because of what Candace said.
And there's some accusations made that I think that I think, number one, I don't think they're true, Tyler.
And I don't want you to think the show's here to disrespect you.
You or Andrew.
I think it's fair.
Like I said, if things are in the public and they're very serious, it's okay to mention them.
And also, I want to say, I don't think they're well-founded on facts.
And even if they were, it's pretty irrelevant to any people's personal lives, sex lives.
Like, dude, honestly, if the gays had just like sold vision, they had just kept it behind closed doors.
I don't think we'd be in a big anti-LGBTQ movement.
It's the forcing your life onto people.
If people want to spread people's personal lives, I don't deal with that.
michael hennessey
Yeah, it was all pushed on purpose.
elijah schaffer
But I will say, yeah, but I am just saying that it's kind of against our show rules to mention this stuff.
It got mentioned without my really wanting it to be on the show, but it was part of what happened.
So I just want to say that again.
Apologies.
And Tyler, I don't think you're guilty of any gross or weird or strange things.
Cause I know you'll probably end up seeing this and when we'll mention it to you, but Candace and some people do mention it.
And for legal reasons, I'll say we don't endorse or think that it's corroborated.
But also to the people that mentioned it, we're not against you either.
Free speech, do your investigations, do what it is.
Anyway, Trisha Page came on because I want to show you how the censorship happens.
She brings up a tweet.
She's a normal grandma.
Dude, this is a first, we like to bring normal.
She's like a grandma on Twitter.
She's like an RV.
She called us from an RV, like in a campground.
She brought up a question about Charlie's death.
It turned out she ended up getting called basically, you know, guilt-tripped.
Oh, you don't know what Erica would want.
And then it turns out her questioning of this story actually blew the lid off of it.
And it turns out it was a giant Zionist op that was a complete lie that was even from the depths of the Jerusalem Post back to the Kiddeset.
Basically, it was basically an entire Israeli op was released.
And guess who was trying to cover for it?
Brandon Tatum.
Yeah, Brandon Tatum was the one trying to push the op.
And Colvet came out and blew the lid off of it and was like, this is fake.
So this is a really crazy story here where a fake story was put out.
This woman reacted to Grandma.
That's what I'll tell you.
The average person is important.
She goes, this seems really weird.
This doesn't seem like what Charlie would want to do.
And then Tatum's like, who the hell are you to question a grieving woman and try to guilt trip her?
And then Colvett comes out and goes, The Jerusalem Post is lying.
And it turns out her instincts were correct.
And Brandon Tatum's, again, we're wrong.
Cha-ching, cha-ching, Brandon.
Cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching.
michael hennessey
Is that him getting the second thousand?
elijah schaffer
Have you paid off your gold chain yet?
unidentified
No, okay.
elijah schaffer
I love Milo Yiannopoulos.
Always ask him if you paid off his car.
Have you paid off your car yet?
Did you pay your chain off yet?
No, he's actually very rich.
You know, it doesn't hurt financially to back the Zionists.
michael hennessey
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Absolutely.
elijah schaffer
I bet you probably got 20 or 30 grand to speak at the Republican Party.
michael hennessey
They pay very well.
Yeah.
They don't sell their souls for cheap.
elijah schaffer
You know what's crazy is this is like the joke.
I actually get paid very well for speaking too.
I just get canceled everywhere I speak.
But NYU got canceled.
Liberty University got canceled.
I had University of Massachusetts.
I had Rutgers cancel.
Why did our tour end?
Everybody canceled on us because the schools made them cancel.
I had University of FIU cancel Turning Point canceled.
Ole Miss tried to do an official event with Turning Point.
They canceled.
So I've had like seven or eight cancellations this year.
Now, I typically take, I usually get paid between $5,000 and $10,000 to speak personally.
And so it's like, I've already lost like $80,000, $60,000 to $80,000 of income.
And they know that's like kind of people say, how do you know you lost money?
It's like, I've been canceled for my views of making an average person's good yearly income just because of my views on Israel, which Yaff has stated they will not work with anti-Zionists.
Trisha Page came on to blow the lid off of this.
Check this out, our interview.
Don't go anywhere, guys.
This is very important.
Check this out.
All right.
michael hennessey
I don't hear it.
elijah schaffer
Tricia Hope posted this on X. Why on earth would Miss Erica Kirk accept this for Charlie when Charlie said 48 hours before he was assassinated, he was left no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause?
A verified account with the golden check had originally published this story that we're finding out may not exactly be true.
It said Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, will be posthumously honored at Israel's 2025 Christian Media Summit in recognition of his courageous stand for truth and steadfast right here, support of Israel.
The star J Post, which we see here, is Senior Diaspora Affairs and Jewish World correspondent for Jerusalem Post reported.
Now, Miss Erica Kirk will accept the award on her husband's behalf, a moving tribute to a man who inspired millions to stand with Israel.
Check out the wording here, when it mattered most.
The Pillars of Jerusalem award, inspired by the verse teaching that the world stands upon justice, truth, and peace, will also be presented to Douglas Murray, Yale Eckstein, and Dr. Jürgen Buehler, in which they put up a post of our good friend Charlie Kirk, who was assassinated.
Now, in response to this, like we mentioned, Trish said, why would his wife be accepting this?
And it brings up an interesting question that we'll talk to her about.
Right here, Brandon Tatum came in, almost ratioed her, didn't though, and said something here.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Who knew his opinions more than you or his wife?
Capitalize, Officer Talmud, as we're calling him today.
Trisha snapped back and said, we have his own words.
I find it incredibly disrespectful to act like his words don't matter.
We should all pay close attention to what he said, particularly in the final days, because he was silenced.
I will not ignore Charlie.
I want to bring onto the screen today, Trisha Hope here at The Rift.
Trisha, welcome to The Rift.
It's so great to have you on.
And I know you're calling him remote.
How are you doing?
unidentified
Doing great.
Thank you for having me.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, fantastic.
Obviously, you've been an activist.
You've been on the forefront of the truth from January 6th all the way until now.
And, you know, I want to ask your question about this.
You know, you brought up, before we talk about the legitimacy of the story, you read this story.
You posted something that wasn't very much opinionated.
You said, why would his wife or people be trying to speak out for Charlie when his own words, which you posted later, counteracted what they were saying?
Explain to me why you posted this.
What was going through your head when you saw this?
unidentified
Well, when I saw it, I was really surprised.
I was very surprised because of what we know Charlie felt 48 hours before he was assassinated.
And so, I mean, it was just an honest question.
Why would she do that?
And it turns out it doesn't seem she did do that, which makes it even worse that they would lie about it.
So it's very bizarre to me.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so you had posted this underneath.
People were saying, you know, who knows better, his wife or him?
And we all know, I want to get your opinion on this.
You know, Talmud Tatum, we call him, which is a joke.
But Officer Tatum, who seems to be probably cashing in more than $7,000.
You know, I know him personally.
I've been on speaking tours with him with Turning Point USA.
I know he lives in a very big house, I believe, in Arizona.
I won't say anything else than that, so he's accused me of doxing him.
It's a big state.
Don't worry, dude.
It's a big state.
I live in Florida.
I'll dox myself there.
A lot of nice cars, beautiful wife.
I know a lot of things that he's doing very well for himself.
It doesn't seem like he really needs $7,000 checks in his account, but he came attacking at you.
And it seems like there is a coordinated attack to anybody who's questioning the official narrative on Charlie or whether or not we should support Israel.
It looks like it's the same people that sort of are being used by somebody to try to control the narratives.
What did you think about when Brandon Tatum called you out after you posted this, by the way?
You put it up on the screen here for a second to our producer.
You just posted the screenshots that Candice posted.
Just lost another huge Jewish donor, $2 million a year, by the way.
He also said Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.
Someone challenged you on this, and you had stated, by the way, this was confirmed by Turning Point USA by Andrew Colvett Tyler Boyer of being verified.
So when people are trying to counteract you, someone like Officer Tatum saying, you know, you're trying to, you know, you're nefarious.
You're trying to do something evil.
You're trying to do something to cause problems.
What do you think about this push to sort of discredit anyone who comes up with valid questions like you had here?
unidentified
I think it's very sad.
I think it's very sad that we're ignoring Charlie's own words.
He was trying to speak.
He was trying to tell us what he was thinking.
did tell us what he was thinking.
I don't understand for the life of me why we wouldn't ignore that.
We have the best information coming from Charlie.
I don't need to know what his wife thought.
I know what Charlie thought.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, no, you brought this up.
If you can bring up Trisha's tweet here, you called this out.
You know, you noticed there was something weird about this.
And the reason why I'm grateful for you, Trisha, is because, you know, when I reached out to you, you were very humble.
And I don't like to release people's DMs, but I'll just say, you know, you just said, hey, I'm just a grandma.
And that's the problem here is that, you know, why does it matter, right?
If you're just a grandma, why does it matter if we're just a dad?
You know, your voice, if you're out there watching this, your voice matters.
And that's what the PSYOP is now.
It's like, you know, if you're, you know, we're not Ben Shapiro.
I'm not Ben Shapiro.
I don't have the audience of Ben Shapiro.
And that's what they do to me is like, go enjoy your tens of views.
And I go, you know, you know, where two or more are gathered, that's where Christ is.
Where two or more are gathered, that's the church.
Where Trisha and I are gathered, that's the message.
That's the truth.
They need millions of dollars.
They need, as we'll see later in our interview with Vish Burra, they need billions of dollars to control these narratives.
We just need the truth.
Trisha actually brought this up after basically being accused of not knowing what his wife would want to do by Officer Tatum.
Said, this organization seems to have lied about Erica agreeing to accept this award.
She has not and she will not be present.
Per Andrew Colvet, by the way, who is one of the, I'll follow you back to Tricia right here, is one of the individuals who helps own and run Turning Point.
This is exact deceitful behavior Charlie was facing and why he said they leave me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.
Do not let Israel do to Erica what they did to Charlie.
I want to get your thoughts on that.
There's been a lot of questions that I have had about Erica.
The way that she's mourning obviously is interesting for anyone who's lost loved ones.
I think there's been a lot of criticism, some of which have been very unfair to someone who lost their husband.
I personally don't think she somehow coordinated to murder her husband.
I don't think that's what a lot of people are saying.
Although it does seem like from her original speech, she just said that, you know, basically they, somebody that she knows, did something.
And by the likes of my conversation with Andrew Colvet two weeks before Charlie was murdered, he seemed to know something was going on too, which is why he ordered the FBI.
I want to get your question, Trish, here.
What do you mean by that?
Do not let Israel do to Erica what they did to Charlie?
unidentified
Well, Charlie told us they were trying to silence him.
They were trying to control him.
And in some cases, I believe he even said they were trying to kill him.
I don't know who they were, but it could have been, you know, that pressure.
He said repeatedly, he was feeling pressure.
So it looks like they're trying to apply that same pressure to Erica.
And I find that just obscene.
I mean, we should all be able to speak freely without fear.
And I'm afraid she's not able to do that right now.
elijah schaffer
What do you think would be the main reason?
Do you think she's afraid for her life?
Do you think she's just trying to keep the company together?
She's thinking of her children's future and money.
What do you think?
What would you speculate would be some of the reasons she might maybe being disingenuous publicly outside of the accusations that she was in on it or whatever people are saying?
What are some of those reasons?
unidentified
Well, probably all of the above.
I would imagine fear.
She also doesn't want to let Charlie down and turning point down.
She's got a lot of pressure on her.
I can't imagine all the things she's going through, but I will say this.
We need to not ignore Charlie.
Charlie told us what he was thinking, and we should not ignore that.
And I understand she may not want to divulge all of that right now.
I get that.
But silence, I told Tyler Boyer this when he reached out to me in a private message, which I found odd, that the void will be filled.
If you do not share the truth with people, the void will be filled.
And he ignored me and was not pleased with what I said.
But I believe that.
I believe the truth needs to be told by all parties.
elijah schaffer
So I ask you a question about that.
Did he respond to you in response to you questioning about Erica Kirk?
Is that what happened?
unidentified
Yeah, I guess I posted something he didn't like and he sent me a private message about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I think.
Well, that brings up an interesting question that I want to kind of end on here on this interview.
You know, I like Tyler.
I like Andrew.
I've known them for about a decade before Turning Point was anything significant to what it is today.
And as we know, you know, the more money and the more people that are involved in projects, sometimes things are more complicated.
And I myself want to admit, personally, there are so many things I'd like to say and I'd like to explain about things that have happened in my life or at networks I've worked at that obviously under threat of lawsuit under just being cordial and not wanting to ruin people's marriages, right?
Not wanting to ruin people's reputations.
I'll continue to let them stay married and, you know, let their husbands think they're a certain way or whatever it is for the sake of peace, right?
So like I know the maturity sense where we bite our tongue and we just go, maybe I, maybe I have questions.
Maybe Tyler has questions and maybe he's just knows it's not the time or the place and he'll keep those behind closed doors.
But I did have a very interesting situation.
I don't know if you saw this.
You know, Stew Peters, you know, retweeted this clip from Candace Owens in which she spoke about some of the stuff.
And by the way, I want to preclude this because I don't want to be under a lawsuit.
I don't like spreading gossip and I don't endorse the statements in this clip about Tyler or Andrew.
I just want to clarify that this clip is sort of what I want people to notice has caused a very interesting reaction from the Turning Point team.
Check this out.
candace owens
Who wrote us is telling me the story about Tyler Boyer's involvement in like Maricopa County politics in general?
Like what did he do before in Arizona?
And yeah, it's just the kind of stories he said he approached him several times about embezzlement.
You know, not Charlie Tyler was hooking up with young interns, young male interns or young male workers.
And he didn't even care.
He's like, I'll go on record because all of this happened and I had the proof it all has happened.
And everybody knows about Tyler Boyer at Turning Point USA.
It's like an absurdity.
But this is the person that is putting people into places of power at Turning Point USA.
Like he's, he's just involved.
And something that was interesting is also how many Russian speakers there are.
I was telling you, like UVU, there's just a lot of Russians and people who study Soviet studies.
Even the president of UVU majored in Soviet studies.
Tyler Boyer majored in Soviet studies.
He's a fluent Russian speaker.
He spent years.
And I'm going to assume when I say they speak Russian that they're probably more tied to Ukraine, like kind of coming full circle on that, because a lot of times people wrongly assume that people who speak Russian are Russian and actually Ukrainians until they like made it a law.
elijah schaffer
All right.
So I just want to come straight to you, Trish.
You know, one of the things that happened is Stew Peters shared this video with this quote here.
And I know Stu's controversial himself, right?
I mean, he says a lot of interesting things that some of which people aren't able to verify.
So you had a lot of people involved, right?
A lot of people have a lot of opinions about Tyler, about Candace, about Stu, and about me and you.
So it's okay.
I'm not here to cast any stones.
But Stu said, you know, Tyler Boyer was hooking up with young male interns at TPUSA and was involved with shady Ukrainian orphanages, Erica Kirk, Romanian orphanages, Tyler Boyer, Ukrainian orphanage.
What's the deal with all this orphanages and why did Charlie keep a homosexual around?
To which Stu released this.
Tyler Boyer reached out to him and said, hey, Stu, send me your lawyer's contact info.
Usually if you sue people, you don't do that.
So that seems like more of like some sort of an issue.
Look, I don't like accusing, I don't think it's fair to be accusing Tyler of being homosexual or hooking up with kids and these kinds of things when there's no evidence.
I don't like spreading, well, this person just said it happened.
And I don't, I think it's nasty stuff.
But I do see Tyler reaching out.
I want to get your opinion on Tyler as our last question here.
Tyler reaching out to you, Tyler reaching out personally to Stu.
What does this show you about the situation?
Do you think he's doing it out of good faith because he is upset about the slander and what's going on?
Do you think this is a sign of panic or he's a very powerful, rich guy?
Like, why would he be DMing people personally?
What do you take from this?
unidentified
I felt it was intimidation and I thought it was odd that he would try.
It felt like he was trying to intimidate me into silence.
And I thought it was odd because, look, I'm not a big account.
I'm just, like I said, a grandma.
So it surprised me.
It made me feel like, it made me feel like he was guilty of something.
That's what it made me feel like.
elijah schaffer
So like the sort of like, yeah, because people, I'm sure, I mean, you've lived enough decades.
I'm sure a lot of people said a lot of weird things about you in your life.
And on the internet, I'm sure people say things.
And sometimes it gets to you and for like maybe one time you respond.
I should have responded.
I should have just ignored that.
You know, I've done that before, like a legal threat.
It's like, it's not true.
I should just ignore it.
It doesn't matter.
You know, people can say anything they want.
But like, yeah, when people do DM, it either means A, they really want to find a solution or maybe they're guilty of something.
When you say like intimidation, what is the benefit of intimidating a grandma?
Because I feel the same thing.
I feel like there's a lot of, again, not Tyler.
And I'm not even agreeing with you on that.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm just, I'm taking your word for it.
But I feel like there's a lot of intimidation happening.
Like even Seth Dylan has tried to intimidate us legally, my team in our investigation to the Hamptons meeting.
A lot of threatening my employees legally, you know, with very, very odd stuff.
I thought that was weird to go to like my employee and then threaten like, you know, to kind of like go through that, that route seemed very, very odd.
Why do you think that they're trying to intimidate people?
What do they gain from that?
unidentified
I don't know.
I mean, my first thought is they're hiding something.
I mean, that seems to be the obvious reason someone would do something like that.
I don't know if they are or not.
But as I told Tyler, the way he was acting, you know, certainly was going to cause me to ask more questions, not less.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
And Trisha, if people want to follow you, I want to go to your page here.
I know people saw it at the very beginning, but I want people to know that if you want to keep up with Tricia, right here, you can find her on X.
She is at just the Tweets17.
I can probably actually zoom that in a little more even.
Yeah, so JustTheTweets 17 is J-U-S-T-T-H-E-T-W-E-E-T-S, the numbers one and seven.
You can find her there.
And go ahead and subscribe.
Is there any last word you want to say on the situation or for people that are confused or asking questions, Tricia?
unidentified
I just think it's okay to ask questions.
You shouldn't feel bad about asking questions.
Someone was shot in the neck in front of our faces.
And I don't trust the FBI.
And if you do, you haven't read 1,600 of the J6 cases like I have and witnessed lies in just almost every single one of them.
So I don't trust the FBI and we should all be asking questions.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
Tricia Hope, National Delegate, Texas.
Thank you so much for coming on.
unidentified
Thank you so much for having me.
I appreciate it.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
All right.
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michael hennessey
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elijah schaffer
Misfisted Patriot.
Remember what he was like, No, my friendship with you was fake.
I was going to come make you a fool of you.
I was like, dude, no one was paying attention.
No one like, what are you talking about?
Dude, just invited you on a show.
Like, you okay?
What a Fortnite airline.
unidentified
I'm like, bro, you're not worth, you're not even worth anything.
michael hennessey
Then he just went naked for his next few posts immediately after.
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We'll talk about the meaning of life because there's some things that I noticed with Misfit Patriot.
I want to talk about just like actually, we'll go to Spiritual Corner tonight.
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No one does.
So he's like, hey, it's just two really good cigars.
Why are you not wanting me to mail you cigars?
I don't know what some of us don't know what these giveaways are.
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It's very weird.
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michael hennessey
Sounds good.
elijah schaffer
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Well, that's what it feels like following his Twitter.
unidentified
It is.
elijah schaffer
That's what it is.
It's like gaping into a black man's asshole.
unidentified
He literally had a talk with me about swearing right before this show.
elijah schaffer
Let's see.
unidentified
We need to stop swearing.
elijah schaffer
It's the end of the show.
unidentified
You're the only one.
elijah schaffer
It's the end of the show.
unidentified
Okay.
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