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Oct. 1, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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$7K Per Post? MTG EXPOSES Foreign Influence Operation | The Rift | Guest: Hoe Math

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elijah schaffer
Well, Marjorie brings up a great point, right?
The question is, is why are we supposed to hate all of these people that, quite frankly, maybe they don't like us, but they wouldn't even be around us if we weren't displacing them from their homelands.
Well, it turns out the reason why we're trying to care, or at least why we should care, is due to artificial insemination, and I use that word of cash into the womb of the media apparatus that makes you and I think that we need to care about a small minority of people and their desires.
It's like a woman telling you while you come back from work and you're like beaten down, you've been screaming, your boss was screaming at you, you're tired, you've been sexless for two weeks, and your wife's like, I'm depressed while she sits in a house that you pay for and the family that you provide.
And you're like, what could possibly be wrong with you, woman?
Exactly.
You know what I go through?
And here in America, we go through a lot, yet we're told to ignore our problems, take the blame in the world, and to go ahead and to give all of our money and taxpayers to somebody else due to a foreign operation program that we are uncovering.
Plus, the ADL is being canceled again.
And we also find out some more information with the government shutdown.
Joining me today in the studio, our contributors for RifTV.com, Brayden Sorbo, welcome back to the show.
braeden cooper sorbo
Hey, excited to be here.
Dude, I'm so excited for this guest.
This is going to be a great show.
We're going to get to debunk a whole lot.
unidentified
Yes.
elijah schaffer
And of course, the man who writes the show as well.
His name is Snowflake underscore news online, but you all know him as Michael Hennessy, the founder of the alcohol company.
Mad Dog 2020.
Welcome back to the show.
michael hennessey
Hey, happy to be back.
Had a great time in El Salvador.
It's nice to see someone in control over there actually using their constitutional right to make sure they get things done.
So, but happy to be here.
unidentified
Yes.
elijah schaffer
And joining us for our guest for the first time, you know him online as Homath, but he's been weighing in on so much more.
People are calling him a plant.
I'm just calling him a source of wisdom.
I don't know what you want to go by.
Do we call you Homath?
Welcome to the show.
@hoe math
Yeah, I think that's what people usually do.
Thanks for having me.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so you don't show your face, and that's okay, because we were told in 2020, 2021 that not showing your face was about loving grandparents and about being kind to those who are immunologically compromised.
But dude, I know you've been getting attacked recently.
You've spent a lot of years that people don't know this explaining the relationships between men and women, explaining the dynamics of human existence.
And then you've kind of jumped into geopolitics and sort of explained to people what's going on in the world.
Give me an update on what's going on.
What do you have here?
@hoe math
So, I mean, this is just, these are just the charts that I make.
This is how I explain things to people.
I have a really well-developed ability to know what people know and what they don't know and give them the missing information in exactly the way that makes them understand it.
So people will, you know, look at all my charts and watch my videos and go, oh, I get it now.
Like, I get why women act this way.
I get why they feel different ways about different things.
And I have been trying since day one to expand into psychology in general.
This is a developmental psychology chart.
I have a whole section of my binder for that.
And it's very applicable to politics.
And I don't know a lot of details.
Like, I'm not a political buff, but I am a structure of the mind buff.
So when I see things going on that I can apply this to, I comment on them.
And I have a really good ability to say things in ways that make people get it and in ways that they can share with people and say, this is what I've always been trying to say.
So I've been talking about a lot of political things with it lately.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Well, I was going to say we're talking about a few very important topics today.
Let's just jump right into what I want to discuss, which I think is this idea.
You yourself, I think a lot of us here in this room have been getting accused of working, getting money from Qatar.
People have been really getting sick of what's been going on.
I was really disappointed to find Alex Jones pairing up with Ezra Levant, who has me blocked on all social media because I had called out Rebel for being a conduit of the Israeli government and being a propaganda machine.
And I know that because Rebel News worked to try to discredit me in Australia because I wouldn't support the war in Gaza, despite trying to support Australian efforts to protect their constitution.
They would not work with me until I supported Israel.
And then I realized, wait a second, if you won't work with me to save the West until I support the East, then maybe you don't serve the West.
Maybe you serve the West, which is, yeah, exactly.
But I want to bring this up here, RiftTV.com.
You can get all your news articles there.
They reported today, based on newly disclosed documents filed under the U.S. Foreign Agents Registration Act, FARA, on September 30th, 2025, the Israeli government via its Ministry of Foreign Affairs is funding a covert influencer campaign called the Ester Project to promote pro-Israel narratives on U.S. social media.
Payments to 14 to 18 American influencers, it feels more like 14,018,000.
Influencers, I'm going to expose today, by the way, a lot of people are getting paid right now, and we will.
I'm not going to break my NDAs, but I'll explain to you guys.
Range from $6,100 to $7,372 per year, or wait, per post.
Yeah, per post on platforms like TikTok and Instagram, which invoices totaling $900,000 for June to November.
Netanyahu referred this week to a community pushing out preferred messaging in U.S. media.
And boy, are they making a pricey sum.
Now, we can talk about the ways they're doing this, but Homath, I got to talk with you about this.
It seems like the gas is lighting itself these days.
It's like we're back to the beginning of the creation of humankind, right?
There's a spontaneous combustion, as they call it, where out of thin air, we're finding out that exactly what people, our oppressors, have been accusing us of, they're doing, that they have a budget, the budget to buy support.
By the way, a war and a people that are so liked and so loved that they have to buy their support.
What do you take of this?
And explain to me what's going on here because you've been watching this and you know.
@hoe math
I've been watching it.
The details, you know, I'm not, I spend a lot of time on my videos.
The details are not my strong suit, but what I have noticed is that what I'm drawing here is a little juice box icon.
They've started.
Yeah, they've started banning that icon on TikTok.
If you put it in a comment, then you get a strike.
It's my understanding that somebody, I'm not sure exactly who it is, whether it's a private interest or a different nation, bought TikTok recently.
And now they're starting to control the narrative.
This is something that, in general, people have a really hard time understanding that narratives can be controlled.
They just sort of see the information and process it like either I like it or I don't like it.
And it's very concerning to me that a small group of people would have so much influence over the media that we watch and therefore the things that we believe.
Yes.
elijah schaffer
Well, and we're going to break this down because I want to bring this up, guys, to talk about the depth of this.
We saw that quite a few people brought this up.
Responsible Statecraft actually reported on this, that Israel is paying influences $7,000 per post.
Netanyahu referred this week to a community pushing out preferred messaging in the U.S.
We know some of the names of people.
Allegedly, I'm going to keep saying allegedly to protect ourselves legally here, but allegedly, Emily Austin, allegedly, Brenda, what's her name?
Brenda?
What is it?
Deborah.
@hoe math
Debra Lee.
elijah schaffer
Deborah Lee.
I remember, what's his name?
A friend of mine, I'll just say, I'm not going to say his name.
A friend of mine who worked at Turning Point USA was like, wanted to have Deborah Lee on right after October 7th, and he had platformed me.
And she wrote back to him legitimately, was like, I'm not going to share a platform with anti-semi, an anti-Semitic rapist.
And I was like, well, how do you need to conclude that with anti-Semitic?
Because I've always said this about accusations is when people, when people link together accusations, there's usually a disingenuous underlying factor.
Because when someone will say, he's a racist pedophile, you go, let's let you, okay, we could just say pedophile.
And like, that's that's enough.
Do you know what I'm saying, OMAS?
It's like, it's like, so you have to really, yeah.
Yeah, they stack it because they're perfect.
@hoe math
That's association.
Yeah.
That's association.
When you, when you take a, like a really, really bad thing and you put it next to something that is just like, you know, less less terrible.
It just, it makes them, it associates them in people's minds.
And they think, well, if you are one thing, it is as bad as the other, or there's one that leads to the other or something like that.
It's there.
There's a lot of language tricks being used right now.
You know, they've been used for quite a long time.
Part of what I do is to disambiguate that.
So I'm, you know, I show people.
I actually, you said something about someone named Emily.
Was that Emily Saves America?
elijah schaffer
No, check this out.
I have a list right here.
So this is an alleged list of individuals that are connected.
Israel's Eighth Front War.
These were the people that after the Hamptons meeting, that Charlie Kirk definitely did not get threatened at shortly before he was murdered by the donors that definitely weren't pressuring him, though.
I was told by the people around him that he was getting pressured and by people that were at the Hamptons that this happened, but my sources are incorrect.
The ones who went to Israel are telling you the truth right after.
I just want to clarify.
Due to the owner of that big company that was there that legally threatened my employees with what I believe to be illegal intimidation tactics to stop investigating, which is definitely also behavior of innocent people that have nothing to hide.
I just want to clarify, I agree with you.
You have nothing to hide.
It's true.
And when you hang up phones on us and you freak out and you call lawyers and stuff, that's all innocent behavior.
michael hennessey
Normal behavior.
elijah schaffer
So I just want to agree with that and just say, Max Wilmenthal Canisoans are crazy.
I'm insane and schizophrenic.
You're right, Alex and Ezra.
And we quit.
Let's end the show.
No, I'm kidding.
All right.
Here's the list of the people.
Here's the list of the people.
And I like Alex, by the way.
They did invite me on the show tomorrow.
So that's actually true to defend myself here.
Here's the list.
Emily Austin, influence reach 3.3 million.
You got Jeremy Abramson, very nice American last name.
I love that.
You got just laugh at the look.
Xavier de Rousseau.
You have Ben Soffer, Cam Higbee, Emily Saves America, Destiny.
unidentified
Yeah, she has him.
elijah schaffer
Al Britton, CJ Pearson, Deborah Lee Schwartzben, Savannah Craven, and Anto.
braeden cooper sorbo
That's the girl who was punched recently.
elijah schaffer
Hey, look, some of these people are my friends, too.
So I'm going to be clear.
braeden cooper sorbo
I know Savannah.
She's a sweet girl.
elijah schaffer
Cam Higbee's a nice guy, too.
I like Cam.
I didn't say these people are evil.
Just listen.
unidentified
Not at all.
elijah schaffer
Lizzie Savetsky, Dana Avner, Lou Holly, Kristen Juan, Shay Zabo, that opinionated girl.
And she is, look at that.
She puts her nose in everything.
Brooke Goldstein, Liv Lane, Emily Tolento, Hannah Faulkner, Fabian Garcia.
Jack Cruz was right.
Jack Cruz was right.
unidentified
The Fabians.
elijah schaffer
The Fabians.
But I want to clarify here.
Notice how many of these people are females.
And or tell me how many of these people are buff six foot four Chads like Brayden Sorbo.
I'm just going to say, I don't see a lot of masculine, you know, energy.
michael hennessey
Instead, you got Xavier.
unidentified
It looks like the guy from the fifth element, Chris Tucker.
braeden cooper sorbo
Do you know why that is?
Well, obviously, because none of the guys who are big are willing to do that.
But do you know?
I'll just give the Christian background.
Do you know the story of Esther?
So Esther was a Jewish woman who won a pageant, like a beauty contest to marry the king Haman.
Her cousin Mordecai, who was also Jewish, told her do not tell him that you're Jewish.
So she marries him or becomes his concubine or whatever it is.
And then Haman sees that Mordecai, Esther's cousin, refuses to bow to him.
So he's going to kill Mordecai.
So what Esther does is she subverts and uses her beauty and her female bronze and brains and all of that stuff to destroy Haman.
So this whole idea of the Project Esther is literally subvert and destroy the bad guys.
And so who is this targeting?
This is targeting the people that might be questioning.
They literally view us as the evil king that wants to murder everybody.
elijah schaffer
Really?
Oh, yes.
So, ho, Math.
unidentified
I feel like calling you H ⁇ M. You can say H-M, you can say Matt.
@hoe math
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Is there Mr. Math or are you Mr. Ho?
@hoe math
Yeah, I'll respond to either, whichever you prefer.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so I'm going to bring back that list because you seem to like, let me see if I can find it again.
You do like your charts.
I do too.
So look at that.
What do you make of this?
@hoe math
Let's see.
What are we looking at here?
Oh, those people?
Well, I just did a video about Emily Saves America.
Not about her, but she was like the big loser in it because I was analyzing that whole girl fight that happened around Sarah Stock posting her ring.
And the worst response I saw to it was Emily Saves America.
elijah schaffer
Can you explain to us about that?
@hoe math
Her behavior was.
Yeah, sure.
So I try to introduce concepts to people that are as simple as possible.
So like just to give some background, this chart right here is about what men look for in women and how we're very simple.
We just like women more or less.
And then women look for different things in men.
There are things they find sexy in men.
And then there are things that like, that guy has money and he can support me.
Explain to us, please.
elijah schaffer
I want to see this.
This is quite the difference.
@hoe math
Yeah, men don't really understand women and what they want because we project our minds onto others.
So men will just like like a woman a lot and have a certain feeling.
And then men will do the things that we like women for and we end up climbing this meter instead of this one.
And women don't like them.
They don't find them attractive.
They're just like, yeah, you're giving me a lot of time and money and you're a really nice guy and everything, but you're not hot to me.
elijah schaffer
It's like a stripper meets a guy with a lot of money.
Is that what that is or what is that?
@hoe math
That would be the extreme example.
This would be just like, this could be you in high school and a girl you had a crush on in high school.
And you believe that you should do these things to make her like you because that's what would make you like her.
But you really have to do this stuff.
You really have to look good and be a man, be good at things and be confident.
That's what women are actually attracted to.
Men don't know that.
So I divided what women are looking up, what women are looking for into two things.
There's this flower here for nice and then the sword for strong.
I try to make everything as simple as possible.
How this relates to Emily Saves America and all that is that I made this one recently.
I'm trying to identify the concept of deserving versus producing.
So I have this red arrow for producing things and the blue for deserving.
And what I did was I showed a bunch of different influencers who were responding to the ring thing and whether they were providing like any good content for us to watch or whether they were just saying, look at me, look at me, look at me.
And I didn't use this chart for it.
It was a different one.
But this blue arrow is basically what causes everything to fall down.
When people act like deservers and they just draw in all of the value that our society makes, everything collapses because they eat and eat and eat and they never give anything back.
So I used that as a way to demonstrate, like, here's how you can recognize when someone's creating value or when they're just deserving it.
And Emily Saves America, I put as the biggest deserver.
Just look at me and I have nothing to offer.
elijah schaffer
Well, girls do have one thing to offer.
braeden cooper sorbo
There's only so much of it they can offer to different people, though.
That's the problem.
elijah schaffer
And they do.
But here's the deal.
But the point is, the point about this is that I'm not here to attack anybody specifically, but I did want to bring up something.
I want to point out something here.
And it's fair game because Cam Higby and I have been dating for three years.
And I'm just kidding.
Cam Higby and I are friends.
And I've always been friends with him.
And he tells me the same thing that all the Zionists have a real problem that he's friends with me.
But I would say the fact that he's remained friends, unless this is a crazy honeypot like situation where he's trying to blackmail me or something like that.
He's been totally a nice dude.
And he's always been helpful because he's a journalist and we've worked in the same thing of exposing leftists.
Right.
So we sort of like had like, you know, and I've given him money even recently when he got to help with his like legal fun and stuff when he got cracked over the head and got beat up.
Like I have a heart for people.
Regardless of whether I disagree with your propaganda on Israel, we still do have a problem with like crazy Antifa people.
This is not, it doesn't go away, right?
All the other problems we deal with, again, if you're a Zionist, you're getting beat up by blacks.
I'm still going to defend you because if they're criminals, then that's fine.
However, you should also defend me.
If insane Zionists are attacking me and my livelihood, you should defend me.
But if I'm attacking Jews in general, then I don't expect you to defend me because that would be anti-Semitic or whatever.
I don't expect you to defend all my actions, but you should defend me against wrong treatment.
And I will defend you against wrong treatment as well.
But some of these people I don't think are malicious.
I think that they're just naive.
Okay.
Because, oh, please don't tell me he deleted.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
He didn't delete it.
Thank God.
Cam Higby's on this tour with a Jewish guy.
I don't know what his name is.
braeden cooper sorbo
David Kate.
elijah schaffer
David Kate.
Yeah.
And, you know, Cam, I could say he's actually kind of like an innocent guy, like a sweethearted dude.
That sounds really weird.
No homo, but like he actually is a kind person and does want to seek justice.
And I've seen this and reminding you that a lot of people do support Israel not because they're not because they're paid off, but because they're Christian and evangelical and that's just what they believe in, right?
It's all good over there.
michael hennessey
No, no, all of a sudden I saw my name pop up, but then I realized Brayden's typing under my name.
I was so confused.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so you're looking at me and I was like, whatever.
michael hennessey
No, you're good.
elijah schaffer
But like, so Cam Higby's on this list of people that went to Israel and he took a picture of Netanyahu and you go, oh, these are all malicious people trying to subvert the world and, you know, destroy humanity.
But he put out this video today.
I would like you to read this.
And he said, yesterday, a man down on his luck approached our table.
He wanted to sell his bike for $10.
unidentified
Wow.
elijah schaffer
To get on Amtrak.
We at the Fearless Debates tour bought his ticket and an add-on so he could take his bike to Manhattan.
Check this out.
unidentified
I got a bike.
I'm 10 bucks.
I don't have any cash.
michael hennessey
Trying to sell your bike.
unidentified
I don't have any cash, but if you have like PayPal or Venmo, I'll give it to you for free.
Sure.
Where are you trying to go?
Yeah, where are you trying to go?
elijah schaffer
New York.
unidentified
What time do you want to leave?
2.35?
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you want to bring your bike?
Yeah, I thought the price was like $9.
It's all right, man.
I got you.
You're good.
Phone number?
Oh, shit, you have one?
elijah schaffer
I thought it was $9.
Okay, well, you could also look it up.
But I wanted to say this.
I did retweet this.
I did retweet this.
And I said, that is a stolen bike.
You know, it's like, and then under his post to it, it like ratioed it in a funny way.
I said, where is it?
I said, I know you were trying to be nice, but whoever bike that was, I hope they get it back, right?
Like, I'm from the city.
I feel like I'm not that street smart, but like, when a black guy comes to you with a $500 bicycle on like in like a place where people for $10, it's probably, do you have anything that can link you to this?
michael hennessey
Like Cash App?
elijah schaffer
No, no, no.
michael hennessey
Do you have a phone number?
No, no, no.
elijah schaffer
Just get it for me.
Just get it.
michael hennessey
Buy the ticket.
Don't put my name.
Don't put nothing.
elijah schaffer
Exactly.
And then he goes, Does anybody have any evidence that this was a theft?
And I'm like, you would have to actually not understand anything to think that that was anything but a theft.
And I just realized that there's a lot of good people with good hearts who may just be naive, and I don't think it's evil.
I don't think Cam is evil.
michael hennessey
No, no, no.
I think he was generally just trying to help.
Go ahead.
@hoe math
Yeah, it's very difficult to tell sometimes the people who are evil from the people who are naive.
There are a lot of people who, again, like it's projection, the same that I showed with my chart a minute ago, how men think women think like them.
They see people like that and they go, why would I be selling a bike for 10 bucks?
And they would never steal a bike.
So they never think anyone else would either.
unidentified
Ah, talking about the woman thing, about why men think women think about it.
braeden cooper sorbo
What I'm hearing is we need to profile more.
@hoe math
Oh, sure.
Yeah, the less mature that people are, which we're, you know, we're having a maturity crisis right now.
People are not growing up because life has been too easy for too long.
That's what I was talking about before: how men will see women like being nice and being feminine and everything like that.
And they like that.
That makes them like women more.
So then they think if I do those things, she will like me more.
And that's not what they're looking for from men.
So when you are inexperienced and immature, you have less of an ability to understand what's going on in other people's minds, which is why it's so hard to communicate to people these days because you tell them what's going on and they go, oh, that couldn't be possible that they would think that because I don't think that.
unidentified
Wow.
elijah schaffer
Well, what do women want?
Like, I need to kind of complain to you.
Well, how do women think then?
How do they think?
@hoe math
Well, I split it up into two things here.
They want what men don't understand the most is that women need investment.
They need support.
Evolutionarily speaking, historically speaking, women have needed to be pregnant and vulnerable a lot.
Like that's just the way that physically it works when we don't have a highly developed civilization.
So they need men to be attached to them and to offer them lots of like money and protection and time and effort.
Men don't need that.
So we're not familiar with that psychologically.
And then men also respond to femininity and women with attraction.
And so in the times that we live in, I'm going to get this map out.
The dominant message is very feminine ever since society has started going that way.
And we get told to just be nice.
I'm sure you've heard that message before.
Just be nice and just be yourself.
And men never learn to be the things that women actually want them to be.
They, you know, you're looking for a woman, they say, be nice.
And they go, no one owes you.
And it's like, well, what?
I did the thing you said.
Just be yourself.
And you do.
And it's like, no one owes you.
And then we have to all go and figure it out ourselves.
And it turns out that evolution doesn't work that fast.
And women still like the things that they liked hundreds of thousands or millions of years ago, which is basically, I summarize as strength.
That's why I use this word here.
Men lack strength lately because they live easy lives where they don't have to develop strength.
And so women don't like them.
And that's why I believe that it's like two-thirds of men under 30 are not in relationships.
And it's because they're raised to be wimps and they don't understand why they have to stop that.
elijah schaffer
That's crazy.
braeden cooper sorbo
We have an entire generation of guys who were told to be in touch with their emotions.
If you're told all you can do is be vulnerable and then they actually become vulnerable with the women, obviously the women don't find that attractive because that's a feminine trait.
Dude, they don't care.
@hoe math
You know what's crazy?
elijah schaffer
Because I was raised like that.
Like you're a straight up himbo, which is like crazy.
braeden cooper sorbo
A what?
elijah schaffer
He's a himbo, but the girls love him.
The girls love a bona fide him.
braeden cooper sorbo
They do.
@hoe math
A himbo is a male bimbo.
It's him plus bimbo.
braeden cooper sorbo
That's crazy.
elijah schaffer
It means like it means like a like an average an average like high school football jock player that like that like girls just seem to like and no one knows why because they're like retarded a little bit.
But I mean that was sex man.
braeden cooper sorbo
I appreciate it.
elijah schaffer
Whatever.
@hoe math
Well, he's he's good looking and good at stuff.
That's all that's all that you need.
braeden cooper sorbo
Cheers to that, man.
elijah schaffer
But no, but I would say like with this stuff too, I think connecting it to the taking the money stuff, the naivety is it's like, I also didn't realize like why girls didn't like me.
And then all of a sudden I started doing stuff and I started making money and I started creating content and stuff.
Like then all of a sudden, at least in that world, this is not going to be every girl in the world.
It becomes, you know, like they like you.
And including if you go into like the third world or something, if you're white, because what they like is your skin color.
And it's something that they want because it means opportunity.
It means a life.
You know, that's why you get like people proposing to marry you in third world countries because that's, they see that as something.
Like you, you have access that the weakness that their guys don't have.
Like they don't have access to the real world.
They have access to the third world and you're the access to success and whatever.
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So I want to talk a little bit about this.
I think you put this in here is that, you know, I don't know if I'm going to show those messages just because I don't want to go down that road, but I will say I want to switch over to some of the ADL backlash of what's going on.
So obviously people realize that there's this eighth front war, and we've talked about part of the eighth front war is buying out support.
Okay.
And Elise Brayden was only getting $2,500 per pro-Israel post.
So that's unfortunate.
braeden cooper sorbo
I know, dude, I'm hearing I could have been getting so much more.
elijah schaffer
This is absurd.
braeden cooper sorbo
I'm going back to my rep and I'm going to put the little hat on and I'll be like, guys, 7,000, no more, no less.
elijah schaffer
And if you can't afford it, the economy's tough.
Just put your cotton hat in the dryer a little longer than needed in it.
It automatically shrinks.
braeden cooper sorbo
And no interest loan.
elijah schaffer
True.
Check this out.
Rift TV reported facing intense backlash.
The ADL was forced to scrap its glossary of extremism, saying over 1,000 entries were outdated and vulnerable to deliberate misuse and misinterpretation.
The ADL, the Anti-Defamation League, also known as the Anti-White Association of Anti-Christian, Hateful Zionists, said are against them, they're in war with.
And they started to include things like Turning Point USA, the phrase America first.
They included Christianity, Christian nationalism, Christ is king.
And I want before you guys get the boomer brain of like, there we won.
No, they just took it down because they realized that the way that we're going to win now is by censoring these things, by taking over the algorithms, by destroying access to these things, not by just, you know, we don't need to show our cards anymore.
We're just going to tell you we're in control and we're going to ban the juice emoji.
But we are not, we're not going to tell you that.
We're not going to put the juice emoji in a glossary anymore.
We're just going to axe it by having Larry Ellison, one of our supporters who creates training facilities for the IDF come in and censor you.
So people always ask me every episode, why do we talk about Zionism?
Why are we talking about the Israeli government all the time?
It's not because I'd like to, and I will always repeat this.
I would like to never talk about it again.
I'd like them to mind their own business.
And I'd like to never have to speak about these things because it doesn't give me any pleasure having to repeat myself.
But these people have declared an eighth front war on us.
We talked about it last episode.
And that eighth front war that Netanyahu said, he said, you know, they're willing to drone us.
He said, they'd be willing to do that.
But there's other methods they can use for now, which is complete censorship.
You know, what I would call is, you know, communist control methods, controlling speech, controlling things from the outside, bringing the means of production back in the hands of the elitist Zionist class around the world.
I don't know how much of you heard about this, but I don't think this is any win for us.
I just think that they're realizing that there's a lot of pressure and they've got to hide their cards a little better.
@hoe math
Yeah, exactly.
I think that it's become really obvious that a lot of people are, you know, obviously we all know what we're talking about.
It's very difficult to talk about.
It's a very, it's a very, you know, nuanced and sensitive topic.
But there is a group of people who is exercising control over media and money and politics and so on.
And they, excuse me, sorry about that.
They want to, they want us to say certain things and believe certain things.
And now that the cat's out of the bag and people are saying what they don't want them to say.
So they're just, yeah, shutting it down.
Elon did go, I think, on X and say that it was a good thing that the ADL took down that glossary.
But it is, I think, what you just said, that they're just sort of they're hiding what they're doing because too many people know what it is now.
So now it's going to become less and less visible.
If you have that much control over the media, you have control over people's minds because what people think is really just a function of what they see.
And so if you can control what people see, you're going to control what they think about and how often they think about it.
I don't know what that's going to look like, but it's going to be pretty difficult.
I don't know, keeping attention on this if they continue to buy up stuff and make it hard to speak on it.
elijah schaffer
Do you think that it's, but I kind of wonder, like, do you feel like we are too far into this?
Because I had put up a video totally unrelated to the topic that we're discussing right now.
And it's a video of me and the boys, actually, when we finally remove all of them.
And it's not related to this topic.
Check this out.
I put it up with that title.
And for some reason, it got so many likes, you know?
Just me and the boys.
They've all been, they're all gone.
You can find reminding you, these guys almost won two world wars.
Crazy.
Yeah, no, but I, but I put that up, and you know, obviously, no, go back to the topic that's unrelated to the topic, back to the topic.
Obviously, talking about GMOs and seed oils.
Um, have you seen that one guy who asked people at Palestine Free Palestine protests about seed oils?
Have you seen that?
michael hennessey
No, no, I haven't seen that one.
elijah schaffer
Like, so do you think we should be asking like lefty questions about health and stuff?
They get mad.
He's like, Do you think we should remove seed oils?
I was like, Get the fuck out of here.
He's like, I just want to know, you think we should remove less.
You think we should have seed oils?
I guess like, you think this is funny?
He's like, No, seed oils aren't a joke, man.
braeden cooper sorbo
Is that the um, the no cap on guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah, all right.
Uh, but I thought it's funny.
It's like, seed oils are serious, it's true.
What do you mean?
Why do you think I'm joking?
Um, but but but jokes, jokes aside, um, you know, I mean, this is you said they're buying things up.
TikTok just changed their logo.
braeden cooper sorbo
Uh, they did right before they banned me, they did.
I got my appeal back, and they said no.
elijah schaffer
Why did they ban you?
braeden cooper sorbo
They said, So, TikTok gives you three strikes.
You get three strikes and you're out.
So, my first strike came from an ad I did like a year ago last election season, and I couldn't appeal it.
I couldn't delete the video, I couldn't get the strike removed.
Second strike came from the video I made on BLM rioting after Charlie's death because our guy died, and so they decided to burn more things down and steal TVs again.
And so, they took that video down.
So, I appealed the strike to get the video back up because it posted it, it posted on Facebook without a problem.
And if it goes on Facebook, it's pretty much good on TOS.
So, they rejected the appeal and decided, you know, what two strikes is plenty.
We're just going to ban you.
And so, now I can't get it back.
elijah schaffer
That's actually, yeah, well, like, like, I do, I am afraid of this ADL stuff, Homath, that we are in a position to where I don't know for sure if we are going to win because of the amount of power that these people have.
FBI director Kash Patel put this out that are in the neoconservative and Zionist mindset that have synergized today into one uniform idea and have now began to adopt the technocratic advancements of AI and the technological,
you know, Hasbro body enhancements, you know, like a transhumanism into a force that is trying that will work against humanity, right?
So, that's sort of like that's a very like that's to me when we say deep state of what we're talking about.
And yeah, it's like now to me, 25 years ago, a neocon and a Zionist were like a boyfriend and girlfriend just meeting and they like each other.
And it's like, maybe we can get along.
And now, I don't think it really matters if you say neocon or Zionist.
It's sort of just one amalgamation, you know?
@hoe math
Yeah, it's all connected to the same thing.
I don't understand what is the mechanism by which the ADL is controlling the FBI.
This is completely like, you know, I don't know all the details, but it's, it's, I'm very careful with what I say, although I am, you know, getting pretty mouthy lately, but I'm still very careful not to say things that I don't know are true.
But I've said a bunch of times that the ADL is basically just demonic.
It's so very clear that they just have an agenda against certain types of people, like certain groups of people.
Everything that's good for you is bad.
Everything that's bad for you is good.
How that is in control of the letter agencies is just beyond me.
And how people are tolerating it.
And how are people fooled by it?
Like, there are people who are in the groups that the ADL hates, and they're in the FBI.
And they're like, let's just do what the ADL wants.
I don't, I don't, haven't figured out yet how that's possible, how these people don't see what they're doing.
elijah schaffer
But they do.
Like, I think that there's probably a mix here.
If we were to talk about things directly, to where some people are just doing as they're told.
And I think some, some, a lot of it's blackmail.
And I think there's probably the people who donate and work with the ADL probably also have connections to blackmail operations that may or may not be joint with the FBI.
It'd be my personal opinion.
And I would say there's swapping of information.
I'd say there's probably an understanding that between extremist Zionists and the intelligence agencies, which I do believe many times work like independently.
Everyone's spooked out and say I've had family work in intelligence, but I have, and I'm open about it, is that they say that like CIA works in cells.
Like they don't even work synergistically.
Like they just, they have like their own options.
@hoe math
Like independent cells.
elijah schaffer
Correct.
But the CIA works like as independent cells.
And obviously, that's no way to verify that the FBI is a little more central, especially by the state.
But the CIA, like there may be the CIA in El Salvador may be working entirely independently and funding itself independently than any other agency or any other cell.
And that may be completely false.
Maybe they were lying to me because they're intelligence.
They want to throw me off.
But I've heard that.
And I've heard that a lot of places are just rogue.
Like they're just doing what they want.
And it's done that way to end the paper trail and accountability.
So it's like, it's like, not necessarily because they're disorganized, but it's like, if there's no communication and the only way I know is if I fly in and speak to you directly, then that prevents any accountability.
Because then there's no way to investigate in DC what's going on in El Salvador because there's no communication.
@hoe math
So then they could just like these cells could be subverted individually or something?
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Yeah.
@hoe math
Okay.
elijah schaffer
That's what I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
To go do it.
@hoe math
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
But you could be, you could not be working against the whole CIA.
You could be working against a specific cell that's operations are trying to manipulate like one social media company or two social media companies.
And it's not like this thing that you can change tomorrow.
I don't think there's any reversing this in my opinion.
From what I know, you can't reverse this.
@hoe math
Oh, no.
No, not politically or institutionally, because there's no way to, like, once the institution is corrupt at the top, once we, rather than drawing the devil, I'll just put him, just put an arrow here.
Once the institution is corrupt at the top, there's no entering the institution without entering the corruption.
It's just the top-down institution is going to work that way.
I don't, yeah, I don't know what we possibly could do about that other than just sort of exiting the system because you can't change the system with the system.
And if the system is entirely like if the ADL is for through whatever mechanism dictating how the FBI works, that means our law enforcement doesn't work for us and there's no way to change it from the inside.
There's no way to vote for any way to change it.
Yeah, this is kind of where I just start getting lost.
Like I know, I know how to wake people up to what's going on.
I don't know what the next step is.
braeden cooper sorbo
Yeah, and that makes sense with it being, especially if it is individual cells where there are individual people that can be bought out and turned completely.
And so like we're saying earlier, whether it's, you know, people who are doing it participating fully willingly, or if there's, I mean, take El Salvador for just as an example.
I mean, there's a lot of us who look at what's going on and we can go, well, that's fantastic because we understand that you can't have a sound and safe country unless you institute some strict rules beforehand.
But then there's plenty of people who don't have a grasp on the protection of a nation, who just think in this altruistic, well, I'm going to be, you know, the immigrant protector or whatever, and I'm just going to open my border to what, because that doesn't, it doesn't directly affect me.
And so therefore, it's a good thing.
And so they're willingly participating in their own systems, their own society's downfall because they don't see the repercussions of their actions.
And so to your point, Elijah, I think there are a lot of people that are that are stupid, that are just brainwashed, that don't realize, you know, what they're supporting.
And then there are those that are willingly supporting it because they think it makes them feel good.
It's this idea of, well, I can do it to make myself feel good.
It's altruism.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
And with Bukellis, you mentioned the way that when he came in, he had to remove a lot of those globalists, a lot of the people that were influencing the country.
And that was the only way he knew he had to go to do in order for him to move forward.
But a lot of these companies, like ADL is so embedded with, you know, Congress and everybody else, what they do is they make sure that they send the money to the right place.
You also have AIPAC, who's backing them as well.
You know, that's why I was actually happy to see Elon Musk call out the ADL.
I know he's done it before in the past.
Unfortunately, they made him do a little bit of tour.
He had to go back over to Israel.
But long story short, is the ADL, I mean, even their beginnings with the Leo Frank case.
I mean, that's how it all started, you know, with the molestation of the child.
braeden cooper sorbo
Convince a group of Klan members to go after the black dude.
That's how guilty he was.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
So, and that's a big problem with the ADL.
So they've been attacking free speech.
They've been attacking anything that questions Israel, anybody who has, I mean, that's really the big thing, like anti-Semitism.
You know, for instance, the Biden administration, I hated the Biden administration, but that never meant that I was anti-American.
And what they do is anytime you question Israel, all of a sudden you're anti-Semitic.
If you question the Israeli government, you're anti-Semitic.
So what they want to do is they want to limit our speech as much as possible.
And they've been doing it effectively.
You know, that's why you're seeing the TikTok, what happened with TikTok.
Now there's a big push that you're having against Elon Musk, where they're saying that, you know, anti-Semitism is going crazy on X. Something needs to be done about this.
You know, the whole thing with TikTok, too, is the only reason that they took the power away from the people who were in charge before is because the videos of Gaza was coming out and all this other information was coming out.
And they wanted to silence everybody.
And everybody's like, no, that's not the case.
That's not what they're trying to do.
But we've seen as soon as they get in there, what do they do?
They start, you know, taking out emojis that can relate to it.
Start to make sure that any kind of speech that speaks against them is taken out.
And this isn't an attack on all Jews.
It's just the people who are influenced our country.
You have these extreme Zionists who are taking away all our freedom, taking away our rights.
And, you know, unfortunately, the administration now is going full steam ahead.
You even had Pam Bonnie when Charlie Kirk, unfortunately, you know, what happened to his assassination, the first thing she comes out and says that we need to limit speech.
So unfortunately, our government is all in with them on this case, but to get the change, yes, we would have to pretty much gut a lot of the system.
michael mendoza
Yeah.
Hey, just really quickly, this is Mike Mendoza of the Mendoza report here.
Sorry, I don't have the camera tonight.
This producer, Mike, but also we have a couple of super chats on YouTube, Elijah.
If you want to pull those up, but while you pull those up, you know, one place that doesn't limit free speech is the Mendoza report.
We're always focused on free speech and telling the truth.
And in the interest of truth and transparency, I have achieved the actual identity of a one Mr. Homath.
And sorry, I have to expose you, but I got to put you on blast.
elijah schaffer
I knew it.
michael mendoza
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, that actually is.
I feel like his teens are smaller when I met him in real life.
Slightly.
Real fast, two super chats.
Octavia said, here is some interest in American shekels.
$10.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Alexander Uzor said, bigger fan of MTG each year she's in office.
She gets consistently fired as she consistently prioritizes Americans.
Yeah, I wanted to mention that.
What makes me mad about this stuff is this is how you know these people are not America first.
Because all they want to talk about is the hostages, Israel, Netanyahu.
And I don't want to talk about it.
Why are we talking primarily about like, what do we do about the mental illness crisis in Portland and Seattle?
And what do we do about crime problems in Chicago?
And why are we talking about like infrastructure?
Why are shows in America not about infrastructure issues and policy problems and corruption and local governments and things that actually help us?
No, our government's completely focused on just Israeli issues.
This is the problem.
Like this is the actual dogma that makes and drives us all insane.
Why are our social media companies are like, how can we produce content that isn't promoting softcore pornography to our kids or that is like protecting children?
How are we putting limits on these companies from harvesting data and giving privacy to the users?
Or how are we promoting values in our country so that we are, let's say, we have PBS that maybe we have like family-centered broadcasting or things for children that aren't brain numbing, that are, you know, actually, you know, programming that's slow, like Sesame Street, but it's designed for children online or something like that.
Those are the cool conversations of building an empire, building something.
Instead, it's all about how can we protect Israel?
How do we protect Jews on campuses?
How do we, how do we make sure that Matzabal soup is free for every young boy and girl?
You know, it's like, dude, I don't care, but I have to care because you're wasting my energy focusing on your desires and your wants.
And it's like, it's the same thing.
This is why I believe that all the Bolshevik stuff they pushed in us was a coaxing for this is they taught us to care about what the minorities want and not what's good for the majority.
It's all about, it's been all about this for a decade and a half.
It's been about trans rights and the rights of immigrants.
And I don't care about any of these people, actually.
I don't care about any of them.
It's not that I hate you.
I just don't care about you, but I will begin to hate you if you don't fix your act.
And that's what happens.
Eventually, you start to hate because I hate that which is evil.
And what is evil are the things that are preventing the progress of my country for the sake of you're hurting us for your progress.
So you are an enemy.
Like the transgender ideology, the rights accepted it.
The LGBTQ ideology, it is an enemy ideology that is counterproductive, counterintuitive, archaic, regressive, and some would say abusive and medically irresponsible.
But that's fine.
I need us to get there when it comes to the things like militant Zionism, which I've put up there with Islamic extremism in things that are damaging to the world.
So it's like, you don't hear me saying, you know, all Muslims are bad, but I will say that, you know, I don't want to live in an Islamic nation.
I don't want a nation that prioritizes Islamic interests because Islamic interests are not Christian interests and they're not the interests of my people.
It's the same thing as Judaism.
It's contradictory as well.
I don't want a country that looks out for Judaistic Talmudic principles or for Israel.
And you know what?
Israel can exist.
Go ahead and keep the land you conquer.
You know what?
If you conquer it, but do it without my money.
And then I'll respect you.
Do it without the help of our protection, our threats, and our foreign policy and our negotiations.
You go do it.
And you know what?
Every country that is able to conquer its own way through life on its own, you just have to accept it.
It's something you get to respect it.
You don't have to like it.
You've got to accept it.
But I don't accept their conquering because it's our conquering.
braeden cooper sorbo
Yeah.
I would wonder, I want to ask you, Homath, with what this, as a psychological phenomenon, you might describe it because what Elijah was talking about when it comes to everybody seems to be caring about all these external issues without necessarily taking into account the internal issues.
And I heard a guy describe it.
He said, you don't have to have opinions on everything all the time all at once.
I can care about the things happening with the border crisis or the economy or whatever, stagnant wages, before I care about some random people over in the Middle East.
And so is there some sort of maybe a proper term or some sort of definition for the psychology behind?
Maybe it's this idea that if you don't acknowledge your internal problems, you don't have them.
Or if you do acknowledge them, you subconsciously become complacent.
@hoe math
It's a little bit less complex even than that.
It's just that most people are social thinkers or conformist thinkers.
I'll get out the chart for that.
Most people just don't really develop all the way through the levels of thinking.
Like when you're born, you're a little kid, you're selfish.
You learn that other people can see you and you start to conform.
And, you know, what other people do around you, you do.
And then only some people grow up to be, you know, a little bit better at thinking and see themselves and see life a little more clearly.
Most people on earth live right around here, like at level three, level four.
And even in developed countries, like in the USA, most people are going to be like at sort of upper level three, level four, level five, which means you've got a lot of conformist thinking.
That is why communication is so important.
That's why they, you know, they ban certain things and they control what you see because they control what you think.
Because most people are always just going to be conformists.
Like if there was a bell curve, it would just be like them to care about the issues of other people rather than their own people.
And then you're just, you drain them.
You're using the government to drain their resources and give it away to the rest of the world until you shrivel up and die.
That's psychologically how it works.
braeden cooper sorbo
So what are the upper levels then?
Because obviously you have conform and complacency.
So what is what are the upper levels that people can achieve?
@hoe math
Just, I guess, in their day-to-day as you move on beyond the conformist level, which for most people starts when they're children.
It's like as soon as you understand that people can see you, so you have to take a bath and comb your hair.
That's when it begins.
And most people just never grow up and life is high school.
At level five, you start understanding that there isn't just one way of being and that you can create your own.
You can be who you are.
You move into what's called self-authorship and you start deciding who you are.
At level six, you start to understand that there are many different versions of who you are, who you could be.
So you see, well, sometimes I'm like this and sometimes I'm like that.
There's many different versions of the self inside of yourself.
And people at that level kind of start turning into hippies and they just go, oh, you know, I want to be understood.
I want everything about me to be understood.
So we need to understand everybody.
We need compassion for everyone.
We need to include everyone.
That is the reason that we are, where did it go?
That's the reason that we're doing ridiculous things like this right now, where we're trying to include everything in one space, even when they don't want to include this.
So is that with a problem?
braeden cooper sorbo
Is that like a couple people who get to maybe level six and they get to this hippie stage of, I want to include everybody.
I want everyone to feel welcome and feel empathy towards each other.
They're the ones who set that precedent.
And then people who are still precedent.
@hoe math
They follow it.
Yes, exactly.
So in the West right now, in the United States, I believe it's about 15% of people who get to level six.
And they tend to be, it might be old data, but I remember it was about 15.
They tend to be people who have a higher IQ and more money and more free time to sit around and think about themselves and do navel gazing.
And like, who am I?
And who do I want to be?
Like, I saw an interview.
I can't remember who was doing it, but it was Hunter Biden was being interviewed.
And I was like, oh, this guy is definitely at least at this level.
He was speaking about himself and about the world with a lot of self-transparency.
That's what you get as you move on up the levels.
Like at the lower levels, it's just like, I want a thing.
And then at the middle levels, it's like, oh, other people want things too.
So I have to conform to them.
That's level four.
And then the higher up you move, the more you understand that I can see my own thoughts about what someone thinks that someone thinks.
It's a thought within a thought, within a thought, within a thought.
So as you move on from level six, you actually start to disidentify from your own mind.
So you look at your mind and you go, well, that's a thought I'm having or a feeling I'm having, but it isn't me.
It's just, you get to be very self-aware.
The thought isn't me.
It's just a thought that I'm having.
And you gain more and more self-transparency as you go up.
Very few people are here.
I think it's about 5%.
And then this is probably like significantly less than 1%.
And then these people are very, very rare.
So, again, the bell curve just like peaks here.
And then there's, we got a lot of people at level five in the West, not in the world.
And then a few people at level six, tiny amount at level seven.
And then everyone else is just like sages.
Sporadic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They disappear into mountains and stuff.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
So this is a good thing.
So what would you say?
So we know like a real world definition.
So for like a show that talks about the things that we talk about and understands, where are we like a six or a seven or what is that?
unidentified
I would say that.
elijah schaffer
I can't read it from here.
So I don't, I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
A five or six.
@hoe math
Oh, yes.
elijah schaffer
I don't know.
@hoe math
I would say that this show and most shows like it are going to have some at level four, which is that you're conforming to your culture, a lot at level five, which is this is where rationality begins.
And this is, you know, shows like this, you have to be rational in order to go against the dominant narrative in your, in your area, in your society or in your culture.
And there might be some of this in here.
I haven't heard any of it yet, but the level of transparency that comes from this, it doesn't usually lend itself very well to political discussion unless it is about, like it's a very cooperative, very feminine level of thinking.
So I think that you guys are probably mostly at five.
Although if I had more time to talk to you, I would be able to hear if you were higher.
elijah schaffer
No, that's good.
Like, that's what I figured.
Because I mean, it's obviously we try to keep it at a pretty, if you're trying to make money and you're trying to like, you know, attract an audience, you need to kind of keep things at a certain like, you know, headiness, right?
Versus if you're sitting around, you know, having like an intellectual discussion with somebody, maybe able to tap into higher levels of reason, understanding, and questioning.
But I'd say at some of those higher levels, if you talked about what we talked about, you probably end up in jail.
So, you know, I mean, it's completely serious because the things you have to suggest would be very, very radical and are questionable.
But it is, it is, it is interesting to me to see that because I think that a lot of people think that they're smarter than they are.
And I hear a lot of commentators that people think are smart that I don't find to be impressive at all.
I don't learn from them.
But I also find that I don't consume content because I don't find myself learning from commentators anything.
And that's why I think it's funny because I do a show.
So I'm not talking shit on anyone because people watch this show.
I think you mostly watch my shows for like community because they just like want to hang out.
We've been hanging out for years and just talk at night.
We're just bored and want to just like, I think most people that watch this already know everything on the show.
They just want to hear it brought together and then talk in the chat.
Like that's my personal opinion.
However, there are some people who do watch that.
Like, yeah, you'll see over years, they're like, they'll go from the show, then they'll graduate up and they'll graduate up.
And then eventually they just stop watching political shows.
That's usually what happens.
And they just start reading and, you know, more like that's, that's what I have found.
And the people that stick around stick around for community.
And I think that's not a bad thing because we do crave community.
And that's what I feel like we're missing in society is I feel like we're missing community.
And I feel like we're too busy here that I haven't been able to make a good enough community with the team.
But that's what I've always liked to do.
Even back in my whole podcast, like slightly offensive is like, I just hang out with the people and just talk shit.
And people loved it.
And it did a lot of views because we just would just talk about whatever.
And it was just like complain about life, marriage, whatever, you know, talk shit, talk about sex, just have a good conversation.
And people enjoyed a good conversation.
However, things have gotten a lot more intense now.
So the time of just sitting around and being, you know, acting like everything's okay, you know, Trump, Trump's in the White House.
We can't sit back and be like, well, he's going to take care of things.
So let's talk about boners, buddy.
You know, it's like, that's not what's going on anymore.
unidentified
It's like, hey, we're literally shut down right now.
elijah schaffer
Trump is like, yeah, our government shut down and Trump might be a traitor.
So that's a scary question.
Did he sell out the country?
Because, like you said, a lot of people are the lower quadrants.
So when you say that, they associate you with left and they think you became a left and became an anti-Trump chart when you're like, I've actually stayed the same.
I just never got into selling left country.
Yeah.
michael hennessey
Yeah, as we said many times, it becomes like a sports team.
You have to choose one team or the other team.
And if your team says that, then you got to go 100%.
And what we need to do is we need to get back to a place of actual common sense.
You know, that's one thing I liked about Bukelli is he started the party of common sense.
Unfortunately, we've lost that.
All we do is either we conform and just believe all the narratives.
It's kind of like a mockingbird effect that you see.
braeden cooper sorbo
Yeah, but that it's more than just with politics.
I mean, Pope Leo came out today and he was like, I don't know how people support the death penalty, but not abortion and call themselves pro-life.
And everyone's like, wow, so Catholics really believe this.
And I'm like, no, you just can't see past the fact that the Pope said something that everyone is welcome to disagree with because he's not infallible when he's talking to the press for fun, you know, just answering questions.
But there is that level of conformity where it's like, oh, the Catholic Pope said this, which means all Catholics have to believe it.
And that's just the easiest way that I could wrap my head around this statement.
elijah schaffer
I do want to bring this up.
@hoe math
That's what I was.
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So it's good.
It's always good to have good entertainment.
Like my family, I think the only like major state sponsored thing that we watch occasionally, and I mean like occasionally, like if like the wife is sick and I'm at work and like the kid needs like she needs an hour to sleep or something is like maybe bluey, you know, because it's like good old Australian government entertainment.
But other than that, there's really nothing else out there.
And then occasionally I'll put on like my son's here.
I'll put on, we don't, my wife doesn't shouldn't really know this because she doesn't want me to do this when he's here, but I'll put on controversial diggers and trucks, tractors like digging holes.
Just like things digging holes.
But then he'll, but then sometimes I come in and then he's watching cartoons.
I don't know how he gets to them.
I don't know, Mike.
I don't know who puts those on.
But we'll see.
That's why I like to hang out with dad, though, because dad's fun.
You get to eat like pop-tarts and you get to watch trucks.
And with mom, it's like everything's controlled.
Can you, can you, by the way, real fast, can you, do you have something?
Because we're going to go to the break here for a second.
Do you have an explanation of why women parent the way they do and why dad's parent the way they do and why there's like a discrepancy?
Like why like if he once a week wants a pop-tart, it's like not a big deal, but yet with a woman, it's like, somehow it's like, it's going to start a fight, you know?
Like, why is that?
I don't understand.
@hoe math
Is that a question for me?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Like, like, why is it that like, like, one little fight?
I don't know how to set off a woman with a man.
Like, you're just like, it's just a pop-tart, like, once a week.
Who cares?
But it's like you've got to do that.
@hoe math
I'm not sure about the Pop-Tart thing that I've not familiar with that.
I would need a while to think about it.
That you're saying if a rule is violated even a little, then the mother will consider that a very big deal, but the father doesn't.
unidentified
Correct.
elijah schaffer
Like a father can make exceptions to rules as long as the general sounds are generally healthy and generally like he ain't up late for bed this one night correctly.
But it becomes an argument.
@hoe math
I have a, I haven't, you know, not familiar with it, but my first guess about that would be that women tend to think in terms of conformity and submission.
They're feminine.
So that is like changing what the rules are for good, whereas the father would tend to think of being self-controlled and self-defined.
And we can change the rules for a minute and then change back and it doesn't change the whole world.
That's that would be my first guess.
braeden cooper sorbo
So it's the natural inclination of submission being altered.
And so this comfort level that they had is changed, even if for a moment and it's scary.
@hoe math
Yeah, because it's like, if we don't, if we don't stick to what the rules were, then what are the rules and what am I supposed to be following?
And men are much more likely to think, well, follow yourself, you know, follow what you think is the right thing to do.
You can take a break sometimes without it burning the whole world down.
braeden cooper sorbo
So then I would argue that that's still a green flag.
That's still a net positive.
Because if you have someone, like, say, say, you're dating a woman who is spontaneous all the time, that is someone who will struggle to acclimate to rules and, you know, just a schedule and things of that nature.
@hoe math
No, it might be.
Yeah.
I mean, these are these are questions that I haven't quite explored yet.
If you're dating a woman who's spontaneous, you say then that's someone who might, I don't know, maybe.
It seems like those might be opposed.
Like if there's someone who changes what she does all the time, then that's someone who's not going to be able to get acclimated to a rule set.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I've dated some spontaneous women or like women who don't have a lot of like, they're just kind of all over the place.
Like this is why I always tell my wife, I couldn't date a woman who's like me because there's a friend that she has that's like similar personality.
And I've dated girls that are like me.
They're just kind of like, but then they tend to try, because they're not like, they don't have a set schedule, like a set sleep schedule and everything, they tend to try to wear, like they end up kind of trying to wear the pants in the relationship.
And by the way, and I think that I think that this person does wear the pants.
And by the way, no offense if they're watching this, I'm not talking any shit.
It's your life, whatever.
But it's like, I noticed that it's like, because then they're like spontaneous, but they still want, they want you to conform to them because they're still like want you to be around them.
So you start making your schedule around their schedule and your life around their life instead of them conforming to you.
And I said, I couldn't.
So I've, by the way, I've dated a couple of girls and we're not, we're not in a relationship because it obviously didn't work out because I put my foot down.
I was like, no, fuck no, we're not doing what you want to do.
Like, this is not how we're living.
You're like, we're going with my life and that's how we're going to do it.
But it didn't work very well.
So yeah, it didn't work out, unfortunately.
@hoe math
But it sounds like just impulsiveness, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But as a guy, I am very much impulsive.
So like that, it seems to work fine here.
Been married almost 10 years.
So, you know, whatever.
There's ups and downs in every marriage.
But at the same time, girls do tend to be, they do tend to be attracted to some, somewhat the adventure of life, I've noticed.
Like they kind of like, as long as you always figure your shit out.
That's all I was going to say.
Don't let the electric bills shut off.
Anyways, a couple of super chats here.
Dark Forest, gay person said, get Jake Shields on.
All right.
Yeah, Jake Shields is welcome to come on anytime.
Jay Blake's $5 said the big push to censor is coming, but I really don't think the Zionists can stop the wave at this point.
Cats out of the bag, keep up the fight.
I wish that were true.
Homap, do you think that's true?
I think they can stop it, actually.
@hoe math
I don't like to speculate.
I don't know nearly enough details about what resources are owned by who.
And it's extremely difficult to guess what percentage of The relevant society that we're talking about gets it.
Like, how what percentage of people understand what's going on?
How much power do they have?
What are they going to be able to do?
When they say that cat's out of the bag, it's like, I mean, are there, are there, is there anyone who knows how to go get a cat that got out of the bag?
This is all, it's all, it's all beyond me.
Predicting the future like that is not a thing I consider myself able to do.
I just do what is the, what I think is the best thing to do to achieve the result that I want.
elijah schaffer
I agree.
Um, I wanted to say, uh, I don't know if you can stick around for a little bit of the next section or if you got to go.
Um, I don't know what your schedule is looking like to talk about stuff.
If you have to go, you can go too.
@hoe math
I have, I should go in like a few minutes.
So it's longer than that.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it'll be longer.
We're going on a quick five-minute break.
But if people want to find you or follow you, homeath, we'd love to have you back on at any point.
I think I'd like to have you on as well for a episode that we could pre-record.
It's not one of these live shows about like current events and stuff and just like have a discussion about the stuff, you know, like advice for dating and some stuff because we do offer some extra content as well in between.
But if people want to find you and follow you, I'm going to go real fast to your X. Tell us how we can find you.
@hoe math
Well, you can find me on all the social media websites, YouTube, TikTok.
I haven't been on TikTok a lot lately, mostly on X and YouTube.
I have a website, itishomeath.com.
I have links to all kinds of stuff I'm doing.
I have a book.
I have SelfMax.
I'll put that here too.
Selfmax.ai.
That is a life guidance AI program that I made that we're continuing to develop.
But yeah, type in just homemath on any of the social medias or itishomeath.com.
Find all my stuff.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I was going to say, and it's interesting here, too.
You're at 783,000 subs.
Your videos have done so well.
Like some of these have like, you know, it's like you do millions and millions of views on your videos.
And I'm always just so impressed by the content.
I've honestly probably watched a hundred, like, because I don't watch political content, but I've genuinely watched probably a hundred of your videos over the last you've been doing this for years, right?
@hoe math
Two years.
elijah schaffer
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because because, well, because I remember, did you start on YouTube or do you start on social media?
@hoe math
Because I think I found I started on TikTok.
elijah schaffer
Okay, yes.
That's how I found it.
I was going to say, because, yeah, I was like going to the season of like hating women.
And then you're like, and I was watching a bunch of red pill content and then your content came up and like started explaining how women worked.
And you actually helped me in some lawsuits that I was involved in on like how to understand the way they think.
And so guys, if you're trying to understand women, I'm not joking.
It's way better than red pill content.
It's like scientifically social science.
Like here's how their brains desire.
Here's how they process information.
Here's how they look at hierarchy.
Here's their sexual, what they want sexually.
Can you explain a little bit about what you do just so people know so they can subscribe before we go to the break?
@hoe math
Yeah, I break it down.
So all these little individual things, like this is just femininity and masculinity.
I describe how they work.
I show why women get the ick when you display them.
I just break things down visually and I make it colorful and fun to look at and I'm funny and I make jokes so that every little individual issue, you can understand it bit by bit by bit.
Like some of these charts look intimidating.
This is the more similar simple version of it.
But basically I just break it down to like men are looking for these one, two, three, four things.
Everything fits into there.
The more of this you have, the more of this you have, the less of this you have, you know, the more you're going to go up in your value to any particular man.
And when you see it like this, and when you see the way that I make videos too, which is very content rich, like I make sure that everything I do means something, when you see that, it gets the understanding into your brain faster.
It's just, I know how the human mind works.
And so I know what people need to see and hear and in what order for you to get it.
And people watch my stuff and they get it.
And that's why I'm doing good.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, you're doing great.
Anyways, thank you so much for coming on, man.
I really appreciate it.
@hoe math
Thank you, too.
Good to be here.
elijah schaffer
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