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Well, the question of who killed Charlie Kirk is still at play as the alleged shooter who was arrested has denied his involvement, actually saying that he's not the person who killed Charlie Kirk.
Then the media came out and said, actually, there are Discord messages that explain that he confessed to the killing.
And in fact, he didn't in terms of legality.
He actually didn't confess.
So not only do we want to know who really did kill Charlie Kirk, but let's assume it is that shooter.
Why did they do it?
I think we all know the question that we're all asking is, was Israel involved and to what extent was their donors involved?
And the questions that we've been asking the last few days, I think we've been answering.
For those of you that watched Candace Owens' show, she touched on some of the things that we've been covering and undercovering in this investigation.
But some of the things that you're going to hear tonight are brand new, being released here for the first time as people are going on record.
A lot of people are off record and people are talking.
And behind the scenes, we're going to tell you tonight what everybody is saying with complete respect to sources and what's going on.
If you want to get more of this report, you can get it here at thegrayzone.com, T-H-E-G-R-A-Y-Z-O-N-E, and read this amazing story.
Billionaire Bill Ackman convened stormy Israel intervention with Charlie Kirk.
Sources say, and I'm going to say, personally, my reputation, buddy, is that it did happen according to reliable sources that we have confirmed across the pond.
Now, before I jump into today's show, I would like to give this caveat here for legal reasons.
Everything that we're talking about today has been alleged.
It has been given to us from first-hand sources, either not second or third-hand sources.
These are first person.
The people that were involved, some of which did not want to be quoted, do not want to be involved in this investigation.
So their names will be left out.
Others we will mention who probably still don't want to be involved, but honestly, fuck them at this point because the truth matters more than anything else.
And on top of that, before people come out and start their accusations of, oh, you just want to blame the Jews and all these things, listen, Max and I have no reason to work together on anything whatsoever.
Okay.
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We've convened on the same cross-section looking for the truth on who's behind the murder of Charlie Kirk.
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And joining us via remote, we have journalist, founder, and editor of thegrayzone.com just released the new article we mentioned, Billionaire Bill Ackman convened Stormy Israel Intervention.
We're going to be talking about this report that just dropped right now, plus new information.
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Yeah, you know, okay, so we need to give some background and we need to talk about this.
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All right, Max Blumenthal joining me all the way up north a little bit.
We're happy to have you here.
We're going to get into this report that just dropped about billionaire Bill Ackman convened Stormy Israel Intervention.
I want to jump and get people background here.
Let's discuss how we got to this point, how we arrived here.
Where in your investigation did you begin?
And how did you end up getting to a point to where now you're finding out about these shadowy meetings?
You're finding out that there's threats being made.
First, let me just say, I have no evidence of any Israeli involvement in the killing of Charlie Kirk.
That's not what I'm here to prove.
This is just real kind of unrevealed history about the kind of pressures that Charlie Kirk was under in his last days and what really was happening inside the conservative movement as a rift,
which is the name of your show, was opening, wide open, as Israel committed genocide in the Gaza Strip and this revolt was brewing within the conservative grassroots that Charlie Kirk basically commanded.
Charlie Kirk's killed, and Benjamin Netanyahu the next day goes out, or hours later, maybe not even hours later, it was like his body was still warm.
And Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, goes out and starts memorializing him and kind of taking ownership over his legacy and then starts telling Americans that Islam and the radical left, basically the base of the Palestine activism movement, are to blame before we even know who the suspect is.
And if we even believe the official story right now, the suspect didn't have anything to do with Palestine based on what we know.
But so Netanyahu's spinning out this narrative and people are getting upset who knew Charlie Kirk and who knew the change and the transformation, what Candace Owens called the spiritual transformation he was undergoing.
And I happen to, you know, I grew up in DC, from D.C., I've been here for the last 10 years as well.
So I know people.
So I start talking to people.
I'd been hearing about a lot of this through the grapevine, and they are so infuriated by what Netanyahu was saying that, you know, I started getting sourcing and hearing that Netanyahu had personally spoken to Charlie Kirk and offered to fund his organization to the hilt if he shut down the Israel criticism that was pouring out at TPUSA events and stopped hosting Israel critics,
not just Tucker Carlson, but figures like Megan Kelly and comic Dave Smith, who's, like me, an anti-Zionist Jew, that debated at the Student Action Summit against Joshua Hammer on like the very question of Israel's legitimacy.
You're not allowed to do this.
You're not allowed to have a debate.
You're not allowed to have an open discussion.
There's no free speech allowed on this issue because you have this billionaire class that has been funding both parties, both the liberal and conservative movements.
And they thought they had Charlie Kirk under their control.
And then all of a sudden, he starts showing some independence and some actual, I would say, some principled pro-life views on what Israel was doing, being revolted at the slaughter and some principled America-first views that Israel should not be controlling the U.S. government and getting it into wars that don't support American national security.
He was upset about that.
And so people started talking to me.
I published this first piece on September 12th, mainly sourcing a longtime friend of Charlie Kirk.
And subsequent to that, more people started talking.
And I started learning about this meeting, a tumultuous, very ugly, disastrous meeting in the Hamptons a month before Charlie was killed, convened by the billionaire financier, Bill Ackman, who is maybe the most powerful Netanyahu cutout in the United States, leveraging his fortune to just take over institutions and call shots within, now within the Republican Party, because he backed Trump.
Yeah, because we know too, to give background, Bill Ackman, he was also involved in the removal of some of the leaders of Ivy League schools, some of the presidents.
If you don't, don't forget about that with the pole plagiarism scandal and getting other institutionally powerful Jews back into those positions.
And this is, by the way, not to be attacked, this video on Jewish people.
This is not an attack, again, on Israel.
What this is, is this is a conversation, Max, that you and I talked about shortly before this is about people with power leveraging their power in the benefit of Netanyahu, in the benefit of Israel.
And they're people who don't follow our rules.
They don't follow our constitution.
They don't follow our values of freedom of speech.
They are about manipulation.
And it seems like that what we're finding is that there was a narrative that was put out, you know, like that just basically some deranged leftists came and shot Charlie Kirk and kind of pushing down the fact that Charlie had some problems, you know, back at home, but where we'll say with the funding.
But here's the problem.
I don't want to betray anyone's trust, but, you know, I have been having issues getting platformed at turning point, though I'm one of their pre-approved speakers and I'm on their website, which means there should be no issue.
And shortly before this, you know, several schools, I didn't want to say this, but several schools tried to get me to speak and they shut down the funding.
They wouldn't fund it, the meetings.
And the schools were told that they could book anyone except for myself and Candace Owens, which you could assume what that is.
And I spoke to somebody, you know, confidentially there that's very, very, very, very authoritative.
We'll just say about the most authoritative person that you could talk to on this issue, other than Charlie himself.
And they told me straight up, yeah, the donors were not happy.
They weren't happy with Charlie for platforming Tucker and what happened with Tucker and Megan Kelly.
This is before he was killed.
I was already hearing this that there was issues with the donors, that they weren't happy, but we didn't know at the time, or we didn't even know fully that there was this meeting that took place in the Hamptons that allegedly Charlie was threatened to an extent, whether or not it was a verbal direct assault or an implication over this idea that he didn't want to receive the funding.
He didn't want the funding.
And he was saying things like this.
I want to play this for you here.
If you remember this, the day before his assassination, Charlie Kirk, this is AF Post, objected to B.B. Netanyahu's assertion that you can't be MAGA if you're anti-Israel.
So the day before he was killed, it was very important, people.
I mean, I think that there is the ungenerous way of interpreting that, and then the generous way of interpreting that.
So, the ungenerous way is to suggest that you have to hold a particular position on every Israeli governmental activity in order to be MAGA, which, of course, is not true.
I mean, you can disagree from the right or from the left with Bibi's policies, and you can still be plenty MAGA.
I think the idea that the Bibi is putting out there is that if you are taking Hamas's side against Israel in a conflict, it is very difficult to align that with the stated positions of the Trump administration or what President Trump himself is doing right now.
You should be America first, but if you're Max, I want to go to you with this idea of trouble in paradise.
You know, just to back up what you're saying, I mean, what else do you know about that was going on in terms of this dysfunction leading up to this meeting?
Because, you know, I don't know if you'd heard the same things I did, but yeah, that they were mad about Tucker, which is, I just want to caveat and say I don't think it was by accident that JD Vance chose Tucker to be his guest when taking over the Charlie Kirk show.
I think there's something going deeper inside the party.
I don't think it was an accident that Charlie Kirk, I think two weeks ago, added Marjorie Taylor Greene to TPUSA's America Fest this December.
I mean, what does that say?
She's the most outspoken opponent of Netanyahu in Congress, period.
She's more outspoken than AOC or anyone on the left.
So something was going on there.
And this is a crisis.
It's a crisis that's like a microcosm for the same crisis enveloping the Democratic Party because they have the same Zionist billionaire class paying basically their bills.
Like the Democratic National Committee headquarters, the whole building was built by Haim Saban, who is a billionaire from Hollywood, who was born in Israel, who said, I'm a one-issue guy and my issue is Israel.
So he's like, I built your building.
I will take it down if you don't do exactly what I want.
And the DNC just had a big debate over suspending arms to Israel to force them to stop this heinous genocide in which possibly 200,000 people have been killed.
And the head of the DNC, against the will of the whole, most of the constituents, just shut it down.
And you're starting to see the same thing within the right and the America First movement for different reasons.
I mean, one reason is why is this guy from another country making personnel decisions in the White House?
Why is he able to call up the leader of the largest conservative youth organization and tell him what to do?
But you have a problem where you have this kind of 1% that really only cares about one thing, which is a foreign country that's involved in an ethnic cleansing campaign.
It's not America.
It's not American interests.
And they're dictating what everyone can do.
And they don't want to do it anymore.
And that puts Charlie Kirk in the middle of it.
Charlie Kirk was trying to kind of bridge the divide.
I don't think he was in the same place Tucker or Marjorie Taylor Greene were, or certainly not, certainly not me.
But he couldn't.
It was becoming irreconcilable.
And so he was starting to cede to his own base.
And that's why Bill Ackman called him in.
And I just learned some new things about this meeting that are really disturbing, which is that All of these conservative young influencers who basically knew nothing about any of this issue, were not as keyed in as Charlie Kirk is on all the details, were brought out to the Hamptons to basically hang out and party and feel like they were, you know, in a reality show.
And so they went and they were told that they were going to talk about Mahmoud Mamdani, who's likely to be the next New York mayor who comes out of the Democratic Socialists of America.
Something, you know, you're not going to support if you're on the right.
And Ackman really hates this.
And then in the middle of the meeting, I was told this by someone who was there.
Ackman turns the whole thing into an argument about Israel focused on Charlie Kirk.
And a British woman who hasn't been identified by any attendees starts screaming at Charlie Kirk, getting in his face and screaming.
And again, she's screaming at him about him defying the commands of a foreign leader.
And he's supposed to be the leader of the America First movement.
And then coming out of this meeting, everybody was offered a free trip to Israel.
And you had Xavier de Rousseau from Prager USA, Prager U. Prager U is supposed to be like, you know, carrying the banner of MAGA, educating people about MAGA.
Who's the CEO?
It's Marissa Strait.
She's a veteran of Israel's Unit 8200 cyber spying unit.
It's obvious what's going on there.
And Xavier de Rousseau is taken to Gaza, where famine has been imposed on the population, where all of the United Nations food is being blocked.
All of their distribution points have been shut down.
The population is foraging for food.
And they're going to these aid hubs.
There are only two or three of them run by this shady Mossad-backed outfit run by allies of Trump and Mike Huckabee, the Christian Zionist, is fronting for it called the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.
And de Rousseau was paid by the Israeli government to go there and deliver this absurd, flamboyant video mocking people for starving, denying starvation, and claiming that Hamas leaders are eating all the food, so they're going on Ozempik.
And that's like what was coming out of this disgusting meeting where Charlie Kirk was being screamed at for trying to take like a mildly principled position.
And what I was told was that he actually said more or less the same thing he said to Megan Kelly about why he, how frustrating it is that he's not even allowed to be as critical of Israel as many Israelis are.
Hundreds of thousands of Israelis have been out protesting for a ceasefire, but you're not even allowed to take that position.
And let's not get gaslit by Ben Shapiro.
Ben Shapiro doesn't support any criticism of Israel.
He would never support anyone protesting for just a ceasefire as so many Israelis are doing.
He is an apparatchi of Netanyahu and his network inside the U.S. along with Mark Levin.
And they had been bashing Charlie Kirk and effectively calling for his removal in the days before his killing, like almost just days before.
They said you can't, Ben Shapiro said you can't just be at the front of the church keeping open a big tent for lunatics, referring to Tucker Carlson.
And I always wonder when there's lies, when there's dishonesty, when there's like shadowy truth, is what I call it.
I don't know if you saw this, but the weirdest things keep happening.
Kash Patel said something, and this is the kind of language we hear with the Epstein case, right?
This is what I'm trying to tell people.
This is not just about, like, in my opinion, just, oh, Israel or Israeli donors or Jews or whatever.
There is a class of people, many of which are very powerful Jewish people, it seems.
And they care about the nation state of Israel and they operate outside the law to the point to where we can't even keep track of the law in our own country.
I have a few facts, a few statements I want to bring up, but listen to this clip from Fox.
So what I'm able to say is I addressed it partially earlier is that the written note we believe did exist, and we have evidence to show what was in that note, which is, and I'm going to summarize basically saying, the suspect wrote a note saying, I have the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it.
That note was written before the shooting.
Evidence of its existence, we now have learned, existed before the shooting was in the location in the suspect and partner's home.
But we have since learned that the note, even though it has been destroyed, we have found forensic evidence of the note and we have confirmed what that note says because of our aggressive interview posture at the FBI.
I mean, this is like when I was a kid and my mom would ask me, hey, did you do that?
And I would just start coming up with excuses.
But like, no, I didn't actually do that, mom.
I went to the place and it turns out they did have the thing that you said I did, but I didn't actually, I wasn't, you know, one of the people that partook because, you know, that it just sounds like a bogus excuse.
And I think a lot of people are extremely disappointed with Kash Patel and the FBI as a whole.
I mean, we were promised this kind of attack dog mentality that we would go in and that we would clear out a lot of the corruption and a lot of the evil that is currently residing in the government on every side.
And many people are disappointed.
I mean, just seeing that clip alone, I would assume a lot of people who maybe hadn't looked too much into the situation would also be equally disappointed.
I bring that up because this is what people sound like when I call them about this Hamptons meeting.
This is what people sound like when I talk to them about the donors and what's going on.
It's a lot of like, there was, which that were a moment, but it wasn't a yell.
It was like a, you know, I mean, there was a, it could be a threat.
I got to go.
And that's like, what, that's how my conversations are with people.
And you're like, hey, like, I've had, and people tell me, please do not mention that I was there.
Please don't mention it.
I was told not to mention it.
Please do not mention it.
And I'm not going to mention them and I'm not going to bring them up.
And I'm not even going to share exactly what they told me because they've made it like clear.
Like, I don't want that being said.
Please do not say that.
And if this is such an innocent thing, why is it that down to a letter, we're getting already evidence meddling in this case.
And then when it comes to the truth, if it was so innocent and there's no problems, why is Seth Dylan avoiding, why is Seth Dylan avoiding everyone's phone calls?
You know, because he was allegedly there too.
I don't know if you have anything to say about that, Max, but why is I'm not, I'm not even, I'm not even blaming you, Seth, by the way.
I'm not even saying you know anything or there's anything nefarious about you or anything.
I just, everything's too weird to me.
And I've been a journalist for about a decade now.
And I have the only time I've ever dealt with a situation like this, which I didn't do too much, was with Epstein.
Like, what has the Babylon B been doing for the last 10, 14 months?
They've been mocking Palestinians for starving, mocking anyone who supports them.
Like, that's supposed to be humor.
And now you show up at a meeting with a cutout in private, a cutout for Netanyahu, who's screaming in Charlie Kirk's face.
And then Charlie Kirk gets shot a month later.
And someone asks you about the meeting, and you don't have the courage to even speak about what took place there.
And you don't feel ashamed of what happened there.
And you don't feel ashamed that you might have been in the pocket of this malign entity that is trying to manipulate the U.S. government on behalf of a foreign power because you're part of their propaganda network and you're being exposed as fake.
The mask is coming off right now.
Everyone can see it.
And this was something that Charlie Kirk was confronted with during the Groyper Wars, where they were accusing him of that.
And they were saying, look, why won't you talk about the USS Liberty?
Why won't you talk about the major gulf or rift between U.S. interests and Israeli interests?
Because you pretend like they're one and the same.
And he would shut it down.
And then he realized, I can't shut this down anymore.
I can't do it.
I can't.
I actually have to listen to my own base.
I have to listen to the youth.
I can't just manipulate them.
They're not falling for it anymore.
So this problem will persist, along with just the general problem of trust.
Nobody trusts the official story about this assassination.
And I am totally willing to believe that Tyler Robinson, look, everyone knows who I am.
I'm not someone, I'm basically coming out of the left here.
And he could have some left-wing views.
If that is confirmed through a real investigation and we see proof of that, then fine.
He could just be some gamer, a lone wolf.
We suddenly have this trend of these lone wolf young men who were recently radicalized to climb onto roofs with sniper rifles to take out their targets.
I mean, what's going on with that?
But the public doesn't trust the official story.
So many mishaps, contradictions.
Now you have a missing, what is it?
You have a missing manifesto that they retrieved forensically through their aggressive interview posture, according to Kash Patel.
So the public doesn't believe it.
So the public is going to form its own theories.
And at the same time, having communicated with people in the administration, they're not getting the full story.
They're wondering why the FBI isn't talking to them.
They want to know where they can locate the muzzle flash from the sniper that shot Charlie Kirk, supposedly on the rooftop.
And we haven't gotten the video of that.
So even they, many people, are in the dark there.
And as the theories abound, they are going to go to the forces that were threatening Charlie Kirk in his final days.
So these 4K cameras in high detail directly pointed at Charlie.
And I'm not joking how backwards all this is.
I posted publicly.
Why have journalists not been given access to this?
Why is there no access point, no communication?
This doesn't have to be with me, but with somebody to analyze it and to set aside some of the maybe more finer conspiracies that he was shot from the back or from his own security and say, look, here's the 4K footage.
We've slowed down the frame rate.
I would imagine they're shooting in 60 frames a second.
It's enough detail that if you want to, these events usually filmed in 60 to slow down and probably be able to pick up at least the movement, the entrance of a bullet, to see where it came from, where it exited.
And we don't see any of this.
And when I asked, you know, where is this?
People got mad at me.
Like, dude, there's a leftist out there.
There's a leftist out there who killed him.
And you want to see the footage of his death?
Why would you want to see it?
I'd like to see it because his death is consequential.
And he was a friend and a colleague who gave me a lot of opportunities in my life.
And speaking of the Groyper Wars, I was on that tour.
It was a very nice tour.
Why was my footage never up from that tour?
Because I knew how to answer the questions.
Because it's not that hard to answer questions of people that have a genuine concern.
And I have genuine concern.
And a genuine question is: is the shooter saying he's not himself?
And there was multiple people the day, we forgot about this, multiple people the day of claiming they were the shooter, or at least, you know, Patsies that are coming out.
I don't know if they're connected.
Where's that connection?
Who are those people?
What is their background?
Why aren't they being interviewed on MSNBC and CNN and giving interviews about why they said and admitted to the death?
What do they know?
Where's the transgender partner?
Where's the person that was complicit in concealing a crime?
Where are the court interviews?
Where is the release?
Oh, it's been destroyed.
Oh, we don't have it.
And so you have to ask yourself this question.
And I want to answer critics here, Max.
I want you to answer critics as well.
You know, when I put this up, I said, I'm talking to Max, and there's a comment under there that says, oh, I bet you here's what's going to happen.
You're going to blame the Jews, J-O-O-O-O-O-O-S.
And you're going, dude, we are in a conversation on whether or not our constitution has any relevancy in our country.
You know what I'm saying?
We are under a conversation as to whether or not the First Amendment holds right, or that if you can do anything in America without supporting a foreign nation, can you raise money?
I just found out today, another organization, one of the most prominent right-wing ones, which is the whole time I didn't know, their people and their funders are the pro-Israel lobby as well.
And I'm like, is there any companies out here?
Are there any people that are not funded by rabid Zionists and by Israelis or Israeli-linked Zionists?
And that's important because, why?
Not because you have to hate the Jews, but if the way that these Israelis operate, if the way that these powerful people operate is that they will kill you if you don't listen to them, and you're a white Christian man, I'm not meaning to make this DEI here, but I mean this, and you're not playing in line with their Jewish Eastern philosophy or the way they want to do business, they'll tank your economy, they'll shoot you, they'll do these things.
We need to know if we're operating under their rules.
And that's important.
And we also need to know who's taking money from them because right now it feels like everybody is.
And it seems like there's a, it's an odd thing that Charlie, like, again, this is not implicating anything or anyone, but just, hey, a Jewish donor, Charlie pissed off allegedly.
Threats were made allegedly.
There was money turned down, confirmed from Israeli money turned down that is confirmed from multiple sources in the investigation.
And then the days leading up, he's changing his tune.
We know that he was changing his religion as well towards away from Judeo-Christianity.
He was moving towards, well, I guess I want to say one's away from Protestant Christianity.
He literally says you don't have to be pro-Israel, basically, to be MAGA.
And then not only is he murdered, butchered like a dog, hunted like an animal, but most importantly, Josh Hammer wants you to know, who has Israel in his bio, that him and a bunch of Jewish people were meeting with Charlie the night before, which I think is more implicated.
It's like weirder.
It's like, I wasn't cheating on you with a girl too.
I was cheating on you with the guys.
Like, that's even worse if your husband says that.
It's like, hey, we didn't tell him to do anything.
We were just testing him the night before.
He literally said this.
We were grilling him to see how he would defend himself when asked questions about the defense of Israel.
Listen to what they said.
That's what we were talking about.
So they were literally trying to shit test him the night before to see what he would say about Israel, make sure he had his talking points, his Jewish-trained talking points.
This isn't anti-Semitism, people.
This isn't hate.
This is a matter of who controls your tongue, who controls America, and who's controlling the direction of our nation.
I don't know if you heard anything about that meeting, Max, or if you had any other points to add about this, but I want the viewer, the listener, if you're on audio only, if you're on the podcast, I want you to ask yourself, does this not at least raise some suspicion to question that maybe this wasn't a lone wolf?
Maybe those cars that visited the alleged shooter's house with different license plates insinuated that they were rental cars or out-of-state drivers.
Do those things not make you think that this is a grander conspiracy and not much of a conspiracy, but just something that people are trying to hide?
I don't know if I'm taking too much leeway here, Max, like in terms of, you know, I'm pulling more rope and I'm going to end up hanging myself with it, but I'm not suicidal.
I'm not going to kill myself.
And that was just a sort of a pun there.
Do you think that my direction and my concern here is accurate?
And I came on the show partly to reach a new audience, but also because I think people need to know a few things.
I want to put this in context.
First of all, I would say like what comic Dave Smith just said, who was at TPUSA, knew Charlie Kirk, that if Israel or pro-Israel forces were going to quote unquote take out Charlie Kirk, they would probably start by doing it by taking his funding, weaponizing other figures against him, putting him on ADL lists, that kind of thing.
It would be politically taking him out.
So I don't see any evidence that they would have authorized some kind of assassination or they had any role in that.
I just want to emphasize that.
That's where I'm coming from here.
I also think they want us to blame the Jews.
And we have, and I always, you know, being in the, coming from a Jewish background, knowing lots of Jews, there's a lot of opposition, more silent opposition, unfortunately, than we should have to what Israel's doing.
And it's the Zionist billionaire class that really speaks for Jews, whether they like it or not.
Like people like me, we have no voice.
We have no power.
It's the Ben Shapiros, it's the Bill Ackmans, it's the Netanyahu's.
They speak for us, and everybody else has to fall in line.
Like if you think the pressure is bad in TPUSA, imagine what it's like in Jewish communal circles.
So the issue is the Zionist 1% here.
And they have disproportionate power.
I've heard from so many journalists and influencers since my first story came out on the right who are telling me like, I can't say anything.
I'm constantly under the gun in conservative MAGA-related media on this one issue.
And I'm disgusted with Netanyahu.
I'm disgusted with the whole thing.
There needs to be like an America first me too movement in the in the media where everybody just comes out and says, I am disgusted with Israeli control over everything.
It is a foreign country and I'm not afraid.
Get together and form alliances and don't be like Tim Poole who went into a private meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu that was Chatham House Rules where he's not allowed to speak about what took place in there.
And then you're afraid to even talk about your meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu, a war criminal like no other in the world today.
Just imagine being in that position.
You're basically going into the firm and you can't leave.
So don't do it.
And if you're getting into it, speak out now.
It's time to speak out.
And another point I want to make is ever since 2020, you know, having witnessed like BLM demonstrations, COVID, we saw, we all kind of like saw similar things from different perspectives.
But what I started to see was that we were in like a strategy of tension where powerful forces were pitting us against each other on the left and the right, people who really don't have anything, who aren't uber wealthy, who don't have three houses, like Bill Ackman, and getting us to fight each other and then monetizing that through surveilling us, putting us in a digital prison, securitizing everything.
And no one benefits from the current moment where everyone's calling for civil war more than Palantir, which is just getting hundreds of millions of dollars of federal contracts, our money, and they can't even solve this crime.
They didn't even catch the suspect.
Who runs Palantir?
It is the militant Zionist fanatic, Alex Karp.
Who gave them their seed money?
The CIA.
Who are the Palantir Mafia funding?
Barry Weiss.
They funded her fake university in Austin.
And what Alex Karp has said is that there is going to be massive social unrest in this country, and I am going to protect you, the 1%, the elite, from it.
So give me your money.
And so he wants civil unrest.
And you know who else wants civil unrest or wants us to blame the Jews or they want anti-Semitism?
It's Netanyahu.
It's Israel.
Because the more there's anti-Semitism in this country, the more they can justify Israel as a sanctuary for the Jews.
And anytime there's like a terrorist attack on a Jewish target in France or anywhere else, Netanyahu will parachute in and say, come on, everybody, move to Israel, leave your country.
So this is a time to unite against these powerful forces that are profiting from social unrest in our country and basically trying to weaponize us against each other.
So that's why I think what you're saying is important.
You're actually thinking about how power operates and you're not accepting the official story.
And I think that's a really good starting point here.
And I know that we're running short on time with you here.
The show is about two hours long, by the way, people.
But Max is unfortunately, you know, for us, but fortunately for him, very, very popular guy and has a lot of appearances and work to do.
But a couple of things that I just wanted to just go over with you before you go here is there was a clip.
I'm going to see if someone can find it here and put it in the dock of Netanyahu on Greta Van Sustran, or if that's how you say her name, on Fox.
And it is one of the most insane clips that I want to watch with you guys here for a moment because she asks him, you know, first, she, of course, asks him if he was at all involved in the killing of Charlie Kirk, which as a I know she's a commentator, as a journalist, you don't start out by saying, I don't believe this, but you just ask a question.
You don't coax your audience to go against something that could be true that you don't have the answer for.
So she says, I don't believe this.
And she goes to him, and his response, it's insane, is that he somehow links this accusation to the Holocaust, which is not surprising, but absolutely insane that it happened.
There are several people, there's several people who are asking the question, why was it asked like that?
And what was the load of that?
And with Netanyahu, I'll say this.
Netanyahu and their controlling of Israel.
Not only do they, of course, very powerful Zionist billionaire, rich Jews own a lot of the companies or CEOs of companies that are investors in these news companies or the surrounding proxies.
But on top of that, it appears that a lot of our own, I mean, I got to ask the question, Brandon Tatum, where did that come from?
When did he become, when he got Netanyahu on his show?
And all of a sudden, he's an Israeli apologist.
Not a critical of anything.
It's like he actually sounds like he's a IDF undercover agent.
We started calling him Officer Talmud instead of Officer Tatum because he became a Jewish apologist.
What does a black guy?
It's a Christian, have anything to do with defending the nation state of Israel as if it's his own auntie and we're making fun of her, you know, her cancer or something.
It literally, it's watching.
It's not natural.
It seems to us, do we have that clip?
Do you find it anywhere?
Okay, it's in the doc.
Let me bring this up here.
This was played on Newsmax.
By the way, Newsmax is down the street from the studio here.
Ben Shapiro is down the street from our studio here, too.
I don't know why I live next to all these people, but here they are.
Check this out.
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Before I let you go, I want you to address one thing.
And it's just the absurdity of it, some of the internet rumors that somehow Israel is behind the Charlie Kirk murder.
And I don't believe it for one second, but I want you to make a statement.
I mean, the whole thing is, it's not only insane, it's I think it's so absurd, so stupid, so stupid and so ridiculous.
You can't believe that people are saying that they just found the perpetrator.
They'll get to the bottom of this.
But they go, you know, they have no limits.
When you hate Jews, when you hate the Jewish state, you're willing to say anything and promote all these absurd, absurd rumors.
And by the way, they're willing to kill us all the time.
I mean, that's what they're doing.
And you know, over the centuries when Jews, especially in the Middle Ages, the horrific Middle Ages, the worst things were said about Jews you couldn't possibly believe.
We were poisoning the wells.
We were drinking the blood of Christian children.
You name it.
I mean, these things, that continued actually up to the Holocaust.
The Nazis said the same thing.
You know, we're carrying vermin, we're spreading disease.
And people believed it.
And every time they believed it, this was a prelude to a greater and greater massacre culminating with the worst massacre of them all, the Holocaust.
Well, since then, we've learned, A, when people spread these lies about us, prepare yourself for the assault.
And, you know, they're trying to delegitimize the state of Israel.
Charlie Kirk said to me that he wrote me this detailed letter.
You have to fight the slander.
These untruths, these vilifications have consequences.
And he was right.
But I'll tell you one thing.
We're fighting on the battlefield against the terrorists and winning.
And he was fighting on the battlefield of ideas.
And I think he was winning.
He was going to win.
That's why they shot him.
I hope they don't silence him.
I don't think people will give in to these ridiculous, ridiculous lies.
So anyways, Max, I want to give you your final word here.
Based on the information of people who are joining for the first time, this is Max Blumenthal.
You can find him at thegrayzone.com.
Very important new piece that just came out that we have here.
You can see on my screen, where you can get this information in print, especially to people that may not be privy to watching podcasts or if they're blind.
Maybe neither of these works.
You can give them our audio podcast to listen to here.
But the article is Billionaire Bill Ackman Convene Stormy Israel Intervention with Charlie Kirk.
Sources say, and he's very litigious, that Bill Ackman.
So I'm very glad you put in the title there, sources say.
Max, what are your final thoughts and points regarding the odd days leading up to the death?
I should say the brutal murder of Charlie Kirk in front of the American public.
I mean, he sent a 77-page lawsuit threat to Business Insider when they exposed that his wife had committed several acts of plagiarism, or that's what they reported, after he ousted the president of Harvard for plagiarism.
You got to be very careful when reporting these.
And I'm doing my best to be accurate there.
And at the same time, the public doesn't believe the official story.
And I've never seen a foreign leader have to deny on American TV having a role in the assassination of an American public figure.
I mean, that is just insane.
And Netanyahu really looks shaken there.
This is bad for him because it relates to just the whole public perception of Israel, a country that has an assassination wing as part of its intelligence services that weaponizes household goods like pagers to assassinate regular, I mean, blowing up in kids' faces.
They use them.
They sent assassins into or a jet to assassinate the so-called terrorists in a U.S. ally, Qatar, that hosts 10,000 U.S. soldiers and a U.S. air base.
I mean, what we're seeing Israel do is unprecedented.
And it's waging not just a seven-front war where it is carrying out a high-tech Holocaust of its own in the Gaza Strip, while Netanyahu uses Holocaust victims as his human shield.
It's carrying out an eight-front war.
And the U.S. is the eighth front.
So if Netanyahu is deeply worried about losing the U.S. and it's a full court press right now, they're going to pour all the money and resources and intimidation they can into our political movements to prevent the people from having a voice.
And so it's time now to really speak out, to call out the donors, call out the donors if you're in a conservative organization, challenge and confront them and say you're not going to follow them if they're telling you to abide by the will of a genocidal foreign country that is trying to drag the U.S. into another war with Iran,
which, by the way, according to multiple sources of mine, Charlie Kirk lobbied against inside the White House and was shut down by Donald Trump because he's under the control of Netanyahu.
Yeah, this is an absolutely terrifying situation where, you know, I hate to make the horseshoe theory people have any validity because I don't believe in that at all.
But I actually, in many ways, do think Charlie could be honored by these investigations done by people like Max, who obviously a lot of that work was inspired and used by other people, including Candace.
You know, obviously you heard her reference him in her recent episode.
You know, the work he's doing is phenomenal.
And I think, you know, Max is somebody who, even if politically we may disagree, he cares about the facts and the truth.
And I think we're getting to a point in America where partisanship is sort of ending, in my opinion, and we're kind of coming to a point of whether or not we're going to have a country or not, right?
Whether or not common sense is going to exist.
Like this is sort of the question of like, are we going to be a nation built on truth or are we going to be a nation built on whatever party's in power?
You know, we just have bullshit after bullshit.
It's just bullshit, left-wing bullshit or right-wing bullshit.
And it also asks the question of: are we ever going to have an election again if our people are controlled by the Jewish lobby and the Jewish lobby doesn't have the American interests in mind?
Then is America really America or are we a tax shelter for funding for a foreign nation, a security blanket for them?
And are we suffering because of that question?
And to those people that just respond with, oh, yeah, it's the Jews' fault.
Listen, it kind of is.
Some of them, not all of them, right?
So that's the key thing.
It's like some people are Jewish and are doing very bad things.
And if you can't get your head around that and you think that you can't criticize some very bad Jewish people and that somehow that means all Jews, you have to criticize the whole Jewish race of people, the whole Jewish religion, that's literally not, that's not what anyone's saying.
You know, I was going to say, I just respect what you do, you know, and want people to unite behind this and be willing to work with whoever you can because a lot of my own colleagues took that trip to Israel and some of them are there right now.
And they just, these people have control of everything.
And I don't, since you might not be very familiar with my ventures, you know, obviously I used to work, you know, with Daily Wire and with Blaze and, you know, used to work with, you know, Fox and do whatever, yada, yada.
Even Newsmac used to contribute there as well.
But, you know, for the first time, Rift, this, this network, although it's small, it's only six months old, are trying to become the first mainstream common sense network that appeals to right-wingers and moderate left-wingers like that's not taking Zionist funding.
So we're trying to be the first, the first one that comes from this side that will not use Zionist donors, will not take Israeli money, will take nothing.
I'm going to tell you this: it's really sad how little money there is that exists outside of being controlled by Jewish Zionist influence of the billionaire class.
And I've never, I didn't even realize it was as bad as it is.
It's they will pressure other donors to not even donate to you because then they won't even let them associate with the other networks and things if they support a non-Zionist controlled network.
And so the fight has been bitter, but we exist a little bit like the gray zone to just be truthful and to just say what's going on from both parties.
I'm very critical of the Trump administration, very critical of the Republican Party as well.
Although a lot of us are Republicans, you know, we kind of vary in our political leaning and appreciate what you're doing.
And hopefully we can work together again in the future and get some some of the truth out in this situation and get justice for Charlie.
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Okay, here's a different clip that I found of Stephen Bonnell basically celebrating, you know, mocking Charlie Kirk's wife and celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
I want to remind you guys, I think Nick Fuentes actually put up, I think it was him that said, you can't say simp or retard on these streaming platforms, but you can openly call for the killing of right-wing people and celebrate their deaths.
And someone else posted that something similar too.
And I said, well, it's because the left-wing platforms support them.
Yeah, I was going to say, apparently, we sent $100,000 or more of equipment, and we can't get it working.
So that's the problem.
But basically, what he said is that we need to have more conservatives murdered at events so that conservatives are more afraid to speak out and go on, that they realize that their ideas are not supported.
So he said, we literally need to have more right-wing people murdered.
So he encourages violence and encourages his audience to murder more people.
what the hell i i don't even know how is it like that How is it?
How is it that I lost my main channel, my main YouTube channel back in the day?
You can't even use it because it got F'd up because I was reporting in the Capitol.
Then they demonetized it.
And then we decided to talk about normal, you know, ideas.
And then they deleted the whole catalog and ruined the channel.
So we got screwed there.
And it's like, how am I supposed to believe?
How am I supposed to believe now that I can't, I reported at an event legally, never got charged with anything.
And I got in trouble with YouTube.
But you can literally say, hey, we should, you know, or people, we should let, we should, we should kill more people is what he said.
And that's like, oh, that's okay.
Yeah, who disagree with us?
Not because they're even bad people.
We should do it because we disagree with them politically.
And they're like, well, I mean, that's fine.
That's completely fine.
Oh, you, you tell a transgender that they're the wrong pronouns?
Deleted.
You say that we should mock Charlie Kirk's wife, grieving at, grieving at her dead husband who was murdered, and that we call her like a prostitute or whatever.
That's fine.
We're going to have to deal with these people.
I'm not even going to, I'm going to echo his language.
We're going to have to deal with these people or they're going to deal with us.
And you have all the conspiracies about, you know, the things surrounding Charlie's death.
And it's like, well, maybe, guys, guys, guys, we could, it's us.
We got to band together.
It's like, there is no banding together because you saw that this is what these people celebrated.
Even if, even if there is some grand conspiracy and we're all missing it, you know, because they're not giving us the footage or whatever, even if there is a bigger, you know, picture that we're not fully seeing.
People are openly celebrating and calling for violence against conservatives simply because they don't like what they're saying.
That itself is enough of a problem.
There isn't, there isn't any sort of coexistence with people like that who hate us.
And I mean, a shout out to all of the people who are reporting the posts made by these people celebrating the posts made by these people celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
You know, you have people like Scott Pressler, Laura Loomer, like you got all of those people.
My girlfriend even got a couple.
She was emailing people and going, hey, by the way, so-and-so, your employee said this.
Not going to say anything else, but your employee said this.
And she got death threats, right?
My buddy started a page called like Charlie's Angels or something, which has acclaiming, you know, certain things or saying certain things that are that are unkind, unbecoming, celebrating the death of someone else.
I mean, X, Twitter, whatever you want to call it, is full of it right now.
It's just full of it right now.
And there isn't any, there isn't any way around it.
I mean, the fact of the matter is, unfortunately, dialogue died with Charlie.
So it doesn't, it doesn't, it really has no hold on me what or who essentially is behind it, inso much as the fact that I saw who celebrated it and the people who applauded it, who pedestaled it, who lauded the fact that Charlie was dead are not people that I'll ever be able to get along with.
The Bible says, love your enemies and pray for those that persecute you.
And those are both true.
Those are both things that we can be doing and should be doing.
But the Bible doesn't say to allow your neighbor to call for your death and then just sit idly by and do nothing.
I mean, I have the Bible verses, Isaiah 6, 8 in my bio, which explicitly states, who shall I go?
I heard the voice of the Lord saying.
And I said, here I am, Lord, send me.
And so there's numerous, I mean, that's just a single verse, but there are numerous verses, dozens that specifically are calls to action for people.
And it's not calls to violence where it says, go out and do that.
Like as a Catholic, we have guidelines in terms of self-defense, in terms of preservation, in terms of protection, right?
It's not like, oh, just go out and take care of anybody that you don't like.
No, no, no.
There is a direct correlation between understanding the sanctity of life and also protecting the lives of your family and yourself.
And so when it comes down to sort of the baseline of this all is we unfortunately as a nation are so divided that there will not be the rift between left and right is so great that the dialogue has ended.
And I don't see a way for it to come back.
How do you have a discussion with someone who will laugh in your face?
Was a conservative, just like the people that firebombed Shapiro's house was a conservative, just like all the Jay Sixers were conservative, just like the Crowdboys were conservative.
Every single one of these, every single one of these people.
Oh, it's Jack Berzovic, what, the author of Unhuman, another person that Charlie's party?
And I can't imagine my son hating me unless my son made bad decisions himself and I was unable to help him.
And then he like, but not because of who I am, you know, and I really want to know what you have to do to raise a kid to turn on you like that and hate you.
Like you would have to do a plethora of terrible, terrible things.
I mean, when Pierce Morgan is the right leaning person in the discussion between, you know, you and him, I feel like that itself is a problem, right?
Piers is calling him out.
And to be fair, let's just say this real quickly.
Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk were friends.
Y'all, I don't know about you, but if my, like, if one of my boys was murdered and I was the president, you would not like to see what I would do next.
Like, that's my boy.
I'm going to pull out all the stops.
I'm going to do everything.
Like, so I get it.
I get why Trump is backing his boy Charlie because they were close.
I mean, they were close for what, seven years, six years, something like that?
Like, maybe even back to 2016, because the turning point has been up since what?
Charlie was like 17 years old and he's 31, so 14 years, right?
And it really took off in the past like seven or eight years or something, right?
If my boy was assassinated for his political beliefs and I was the president, oh gosh.
One of the things that I feel like with, I'm trying to find the video here, but JD Vance came out and basically said, you know, we really can't partner with these people, like you said, exactly, because they want us dead.
And the problem is, is like when going to Charlie's death here, you know, I don't know if you want to watch this whole thing, but Charlie predicted what would happen.
And I want people to realize that the Jewish institutional powers have lost the public to such an extent that Charlie, who's a big defender of Israel, dies.
And I have people calling me and texting me that are pro-Israel going, I bet you Israel had something to do with this.
Like, this is what's so crazy.
I don't know if you have the same thing too.
Like, I know my friend is really like, I know I've always said you have Israel derangement syndrome, but I think we're going to find out Israel's behind this.
You just know you see something sketchy that doesn't make sense.
And that's the key thing: when something doesn't make sense, and there's a lot of things that don't make sense today, you usually find a powerful Jew around.
And that's all I'm going to say.
I'm not going to make any other statement than that.
But you usually find a powerful Jew in close proximity towards bad things that don't make sense.
I mean, you find questions more than you find answers.
And I think that that's what they're calling anti-Semitism today.
But I think that's what Gen Z is.
That's what Gen Z. That's what Stephen Bonnell's son is turning into a Nazi because nothing makes sense anymore.
And no one knows what to do, but you're finding rich and powerful Jews amidst the chaos in places that they shouldn't be, like in tunnels in New York with blood-stained mattresses, child stained, in the walls, in the walls of a religious center, popping out out of storm drains, okay?
Crashing cars into homes and running away and not being funny.
We played down the lot.
We hear the Jews crashed their cars and then ran away.
And you also find them in, you know, in blackmail rings and pedophile cults.
And, you know, you just like, how are these small groups of people always there?
And Charlie knows that instead of dealing with the answers, like, hey, it'd be cool as if Rabbi Shmuley just said, you know, popping up out of drains is a weird thing and we condemn that.
It's a strange thing.
Instead, he puts a vibrator up his ass, sells dildos with his daughter, and raises money off of Charlie's death, which he did, by the way, for his own security.
He said, he said, Charlie died, so I want to give me your money.
Well, yeah, you know, well, yeah, yeah, it creates immigrants.
Exactly.
But also, who destabilizes world markets?
Who's created the who's created the Federal Reserve and created fractional reserve lending and banking and runs and runs the rates, sets the rates that create the problems that we have?
You know, the only people who were against the Federal Reserve were the people who were also against central banking and they were on the Titanic when it sank.
Do you also know too that these Catholic charities, the main Catholic charity that's been caught with the immigration thing, like nine out of 11 of the people on the board are Jewish?
We had a big problem with it in my dad's home state of Minnesota because he was raised Lutheran and the Lutheran church had a bunch of Jewish board members and they're the ones who took in the first wave of like 50,000 Somalians.
Like if you ever go to Minneapolis or even just like connecting through Minneapolis airport, every single worker in the airport looks like Ilhan Omar's brother or her.
You know what I mean?
Like they're all the sub-Saharan African with the sloped frontal lobe.
Like that is what, and the board of the Lutheran church, which was super infiltrated as well, got totally overrun.
And so I would be, I would be shocked if there weren't charities that claimed to be Catholic to get in with the Catholic Church that were not run by anyone who was Catholic.
Someone in the chat said, and who's the biggest corporate owner of single-family houses?
BlackRock.
And so it's like, it's like, this is not about hatred.
It's not about hatred.
It's asking yourself the question.
Like, why is it that the number one journalist that's investigating this stuff is also Jewish as well?
Which actually, I just, almost everyone's Jewish that I work with in this industry.
And that's just the case.
And I've come to understand that.
Some people say that they call me Elijah, Schaefer.
Some people say it's in my name.
You know, I'm exhausted from life.
You know, I'll be in El Salvador.
I'm going to go take some time.
We're going to do some investigative work.
I'm going to go spend some time in an unknown location in El Salvador on the beach.
I'm going to try to get some sun and some refocus my kinky energy.
But no, not that.
I'm going to try to refocus my Zen because I feel like there is a kink in my energy.
That's why I was calling it kinky energy, but I feel like there's a kink in my energy.
It feels like there's like something just like tearing me down all the time.
And I feel really, really burdened.
And, you know, Jewish people and Zionists really, really did something the day before Charlie died, was murdered.
It really ruined my life, actually, and really messed me up.
And it's caused a lot of stress and a lot of trouble in my life.
And I was considering talking about it publicly right after my car got stolen too.
Fuck, they fucked my shit up behind the scenes.
And then Charlie got murdered.
And I thought, you know, I'm not dead.
You know, they can take, they mess with my banking, they mess with my money, they can mess with my relationships with people and things.
It's fine.
But, you know, I did think it was weird that they sort of, I'm like one of the few people that would sort of write and connect about Israel on large publications and they fucked my shit up the day before Charlie got killed.
Who else did they fuck with that day and demoralize and kind of destroy?
So I just, as sometimes I just glance and I read what you guys say, and I don't pay attention to your name.
It's not to be rude.
I just sometimes don't have time to read thoroughly.
I've been working on an investigation.
I've been coordinating.
I've been on the phone a lot this morning and texting a lot with Candice Owens and sort of like, you know, getting our, getting our, our facts in line.
You got to go watch her video.
It's, it's very well done.
She's a very talented person and I'm very, very, very happy with the work.
She actually got a lot of inspiration.
Never saw her show before until today.
And it was so, so good, so well put together that I was like, man, you know, it's all I want to have Max on.
So I'm like, we need to like, you know, we need to make our show better.
Basically, it's all I was like, we need to make the show better because we can.
It's not that it's not, it's not hard to do.
It's just that, like, she just did a really good job.
And I mean by good, it's like, it was just thorough, well organized.
It went into good sections and it was like easy to, easy to digest, you know?
And I, you know, I asked her, I said, I said this morning, I go, are we really going to go public with the Hampton story?
You know, this, this, this idea of Bill Agnes, are we going to go?
Because Bill Ackman is litigious, and I just don't know if it's like safe.
You know, I don't know.
And, you know, I'm not going to say, I know, I never say the contents of what anybody else says in the conversations, but for lack of better words, she said it on her show.
So I'll quote her what she said on her show.
You know, we're going to find the truth over my dead body and they can probably arrange that.
You know, like, it's like, it's like, it's like, you know, well, fuck it.
If they're going to kill us, they're going to, you know, they're going to kill us one day, anyways.
And, you know, I've been on some conversations and I've been listening to people.
We've been doing some investigative work, Max, as well.
I've been working on some investigations because I don't know what to do.
And I don't want to sit around and say that.
Like, I don't know, I am doing something.
And this isn't, you know, if you're new to the show, this isn't like me saying, I am doing something.
I'm better than no.
I'm saying, I just, I just feel desperate.
And that's what I think we all feel.
We feel anxious and desperate because we need to find out why they killed him.
And I think we know why.
I'm actually safe to put my reputation on the line.
And I've gotten, I've never gotten anything major wrong.
I've gotten facts incorrect, like here, there, little things, you know, because just bad sourcing or whatever.
But, you know, the big things, like even October 7th, the Ukraine war, COVID, Black Lives Matter, the vaccines, and all that stuff, when everybody was pushing these things, even my own side, I love how the Israel people would go like, man, they was tell me, you got everything right except for Israel.
It's like, no, I, I, I'm not, I'm not, I don't hate you guys, but I will hate you guys if you guys continue gaslighting me.
Because you know what I hate?
I don't hate people because the way they were born, but I do hate people who gaslight me.
And if you guys want to collectively gaslight me, I will begin.
The white man will begin to hate.
And it's not about racism or anything like that.
It's about understanding the reality that my children's future is on the line.
And I'm saying this.
We're also doing a speaking tour.
I want to remind you guys, we're doing a speaking tour in honor of Charlie doing eight schools in eight weeks.
I won't be speaking at all of them.
So unfortunately, if you want to meet me, I won't be at all of them.
I think there's going to be one.
It's just like Sarah and Braden, I think, yet.
But I'll be at most of them.
And starting October 2nd, I'll be at Liberty University.
And so I was joking, and it's really actually scary.
This is not a joke, guys.
So I was talking to a friend today, and I was like, I'm not afraid.
I'm not high-profile enough that I'm afraid that the people that I believe are, I believe we're going to find out were associated with ordering the killing of Charlie Kirk or authorizing it or instigating it or even promoting it.
But I mean, but I mean, like people saying, people posting my home address and saying, I'm going to come and when I see you next, I'm going to shoot you.
And the problem is that a lot of people just are like, you know, Lakeworth people and stuff like that.
Like I'm not looking, like, that's not how I want to go out.
I want to get married.
I want to have a family.
I want to watch my kids grow old, particularly.
Like, that's, that's a goal right there.
I mean, I'm, I'm speaking in an event in the near future and I got death threats for it.
They're like, oh, well, I can't wait to see you.
And, you know, X, Y, and Z. Like, get ready, all this stuff.
And I'm contacting the people.
I'm like, hey, I'm flying in from out of state.
So let's make sure that I can do stuff that security is going to be there because I'm not like to me, it's not worth it.
The whole like, well, let's just hope that they don't actually like I would rather prepare for something bad happening and it not happen than not prepare at all and then something bad happening and then I'm screwed.
Like at this point, especially because we just said that political violence or the assassination of somebody was okay based on political rhetoric.
And I, like you said, I'm not even big enough to where people are, you know, coming to conferences that I'm putting on that have six to ten thousand people every single time.
Like I, I, as you know, some guy with a book and social media am still getting threats and am still getting enough people that just one serious psychopath is possible.
And so I don't, like, I don't know.
No one's going to kill.
Someone said no one's going to kill you, kid.
I certainly hope not.
I certainly hope you're right.
I definitely want you to be right.
It's it's it's interesting when people text relatives of yours that don't share the same last name telling you telling them to shut up Brayden or XY and Z is going to happen.
Like it's like it's it's those things that you know won't happen, but are still unnerving.
You know what I mean?
It's not that you want to be receiving those texts and you know for the most part you're totally fine.
But damn if it's not a little ugh, like just makes you feel weird.
I want to talk a little bit about the people the I want to talk a little about the meeting that Kirk had the night before he was murdered.
The backfiring of what Josh Hammer wrote, basically claiming that Kirk loved Israel actually.
This are trying to control the narrative because they're trying to put a pro-Israel person in charge of turning point, obviously, and demand that, hey, this is what Charlie would have wanted.
And I want you to listen here, you fuckers.
You stupid fucking fuckface fucking fuckers.
I hate these people.
We all know what's going on and what was going on around Charlie Kirk when he was mysteriously murdered as a moderate and a newly converting Catholic moving away from not just Protestantism, but from Judeo-Christianity.
We know who spoke to each other.
We know the circles and we know how people are.
And I want to tell you, whatever it is they're going to try here, I don't think it's going to work.
I think they've passed the Rubicon.
There's no ball work.
There's nothing to keep us from noticing.
And unfortunately, when you kill the moderate, I think you let the extremism become the norm.
We're going to head over to locals.
You can follow us at elijahshafer.locals.com.
To where you can join just a few bucks a month.
You can support this show as we are a new show.
We are growing.
And we don't have, you know, 50,000 live viewers, 261,000 like Canada.
It's really good.
So, you know, our ads, you know, we're not like getting tons of money for ads.
We are growing.
Make sure you share this show with people.
I don't even want your money.
I just want you to share the show with people.
Tell people to watch and tune in regularly.
But also, most importantly, we have a bonus segment every time on locals.
ElijahSchaver.locals.com.
We also have a bonus episode that's going to be going up on locals this weekend that'll be released next week.
That's about we met with an exorcist, like a prominent exorcist that's like, that's like actually not like a show person that charges money.
It's like actually walks in the spirit of God and like commands demons to leave people and like prays against demons and fasts with people against demons and that crazy stuff to come on and talk about spiritual warfare.
So that'll be available this weekend on locals for those of you that are members.
And part of it will release next week, but we're going to start trying to produce more content for you guys.
Can I say one thing really quick before we switch over?
Because this is just for everyone.
Well, yeah, one, at Braden Sorbo, anywhere and everywhere, please follow support.
Does mean a lot to me.
Don't need anything from you.
Like you said, no donations, none of that stuff.
Just a follow on X or any other social platforms, greatly appreciated.
But I wanted to touch one thing really quick because we were talking a lot about heavy stuff.
And obviously, as people trying to follow Christ, there's a certain understanding there that you will be attacked.
And so I was reading my Bible this morning or yesterday morning, and I came across Acts 4.
And so I wanted to read that verse really quickly.
This is a prayer that the original apostles gave the disciples as they started the mission after Jesus' resurrection and ascension into heaven.
Acts 4, verse 29 through 30 says, Now, Lord, consider the threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great boldness.
Stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name.
And so the really important thing to notice before we move over to locals is that this was in the middle of Rome, right after the persecution of Christ and the current persecution of Christians.
And so these people who were literally being butchered for the sake of the gospel and spreading the good news, instead of praying for, oh, God, I just pray that, you know, you would just stop these people from doing these things or, you know, pray that you would just do it and I could stay back.
They actively prayed for God to take the threats that they were receiving into consideration and to enable them to continue to speak.
And so that is something that I think we should all be doing, whether we have a platform or not, is to not necessarily back down, but instead use this as a moment to continue to step up and to continue to push and continue to further.
Because at the end of the day, you are protected.
Whether you're Christian or not, you may not understand it even.
You are loved and you are pursued relentlessly by Christ.
And so in that, in accepting that, I would encourage everyone to pursue him back.
