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July 30, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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BREAKING: Whites Only Settlement Ruled LEGAL By Arkansas AG | The Rift | Guest: Eric Orwoll

Most major cities have their own version of Chinatown.. singer-songwriter Akon recently fell flat on his face trying to build a real-life version of Wakanda.. Many other blacks have tried to make their own version of a settlement specifically for their race. However, when Eric Orwoll embarked on a mission to do the same for whites - he was met with a lot of pushback and smears by the media. Which raises the question, why is this okay for every other group, but not white people? Eric Orwoll joins us for another episode of The Rift! ⇩ SHOW SPONSORS⇩ ➤ AMERICAN FINANCING: Call American Financing today to find out how customers are saving an avg of $800/mo. 866-891-4811 or visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/rift. NMLS 182334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org ➤ HYPERBIT: $HYPE in Canada and $HYPAF in the USA | https://www.hyperbit.ca/ | https://investors.hyperbit.ca/ ➤ REDPILLTHREADS: https://redpillthreads.com | PROMOCODE: RIFT for 10% OFF __ ⇩ FOLLOW US EVERYWHERE ON SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ https://linktr.ee/therifttv ⇩ELIJAH’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://X.com/ElijahSchaffer ➤ TELEGRAM https://t.me/SlightlyOffensive ➤ GAB: https://gab.com/elijahschaffer ⇩MICHAEL’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://X.com/Snowflake_News ➤ INSTA: https://www.instagram.com/snowflake_news/ ➤ RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/user/SnowflakeNews ⇩ERIC’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://x.com/Aarvoll_ ➤ YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@ericorwoll ➤ INSTA: https://returntotheland.org/ __ ➤BOOKINGS + BUSINESS INQUIRIES: mike.mendoza@rifttv.com __ Thanks to Hyper Bit Technologies for sponsoring today's video. You can get their latest presentation here on their website: https://investors.hyperbit.ca/ Stock Ticker: OTC: HYPAF CSE: HYPE FWB: N7S0 DISCLAIMER: This video was conducted on behalf of Hyper Bit Technologies, and was funded by CAPITALIZ ON IT. I have been compensated for this video. I only express my opinion based on my experience. Your experience may be different. These videos are for educational and inspirational purposes only. Investing of any kind involves risk. While it is possible to minimize risk, your investments are solely your responsibility. It is imperative that you conduct your own research. There is no guarantee of gains or losses on investments. Please do your own due diligence. I am not a financial advisor, and this is not a financial advice channel. All information is provided strictly for educational purposes. It does not take into account anybody's specific circumstances or situation. If you are making investment or other financial management decisions and require advice, please consult a suitably qualified licensed professional. The securities of Hyper Bit Technologies are speculative, and the company has not yet achieved consistent positive cash flow from operations. As a growth-stage company, it anticipates negative cash flow for the foreseeable future as it focuses on development and commercialization efforts. Parties viewing this video should thoroughly review the company’s public disclosure and documents available on sedarplus.ca. See full disclaimer here: https://capitalizonit.com/hype ____ Call American Financing today to find out how customers are saving an avg of $800/mo. 866-891-4811 or visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Rift. NMLS 182334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org

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elijah schaffer
Well, do white people have the right to live next to each other?
That's the question that's been going on in the last few days as an individual started a association where white people can associate with each other, which means we might have a reason to use a nuclear bomb again after World War II because we can't allow that to happen.
There is a war going on over a small community in Arkansas where a group of white people who love European heritage have decided that they want to freely associate.
Well, an investigation was launched.
Jewish activist groups are angry and upset, and the whole world is mad.
Specifically, the people that hate white people are mad that white people don't want to live around them.
I don't understand it.
You don't either.
It turns out, though, that the attorney general just finished their investigation, and it turns out white people are allowed to live for now.
unidentified
There you go.
elijah schaffer
I was waiting for that.
Exactly.
My name is Elijah Schaefer.
Our guest today is the founder of that community.
And we're going to be talking about a lot of things going on there.
Plus, I want to remind you guys, don't forget to sign up directly at elijaschafer.locals.com to get an exclusive segment of this show where you can actually talk to the founder of this community.
If you had questions or what you want to know, you can throw them in the chat.
And it's just a few dollars to join per month.
And it's, again, it's like a super chat.
There's probably a lot of questions you have.
So it'll be kind of a cool way to interact with the audience here.
I hope that you have got ready for this because this is going to be a very, very controversial story.
Turns out some people don't want their deodorant locked up in their local grocery store.
I know, I know.
Anyways, it's approximately something, 708 p.m. Eastern Time in the United States.
Let's start the show.
unidentified
Rift live Monday through Friday at 7 p.m. Eastern time.
elijah schaffer
I am your host, Elijah Schaefer, where we cover news, culture, politics, and everything in between.
Today, I am joined by co-host and contributor for RiftTV.com.
Introduce yourself.
michael hennessey
Hey, Michael Hennessy from Snowflake underscore News.
Excited to be on the show today, especially get a chance to meet Eric and looking forward to it.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and obviously we have a wide variety of guests.
A lot of you guys have been saying, you know, I know you guys were begging for more women commentators to come on the show.
You're like, can we listen to women talk to us about politics?
I heard you, but instead, I brought somebody who was boring.
I brought, I don't know, like a super Chad European guy who's like starting a whites-only settlement.
You know, the boring stuff.
We'll get back to the turning point USA, gays and blacks on stage talking about conservatism.
We'll get back to the real hard-hitting stuff eventually.
For tonight, you're going to have to suffer with us.
My guest tonight, tell us who you are, why you're here.
eric orwoll
Hey, great to be with you, Elijah.
I think that's the best intro anyone's ever given me, actually.
Eric Orwal, president of the Return to Land Private Membership Association.
Our goal is to facilitate formation of communities for people of European heritage.
unidentified
Great.
elijah schaffer
And we'll be right back once I hit the button.
I'm just going to turn up the volume on the whole system.
Just go ahead and be right back.
We'll be back in 30 seconds.
unidentified
Sorry about
elijah schaffer
that, guys.
The air conditioning's broken today, and so we had the volume down a little bit.
We heard you.
You guys told us that the volume has been low, and so this is a new thing we're doing.
We're boosting the volume.
If the volume is well, please put a one in the chat if you like it.
Two in the chats if you think it's a little too loud.
Okay, let's talk about this story, man.
So, you know, people really don't understand what's going on here.
And for those that want to know the deep details outside of this news story about why did you start this settlement?
What the hell is going on?
We'll talk a little bit about it tonight, but I'm forewarning you that like the actual in-depth story is on our almost serious episode this Friday at 7 p.m.
You guys can watch if you want to find out what he's about, how he developed his worldview, and what's going on.
But tonight is a news show where we're talking about the news.
And you happen to be in the news, man.
How does it feel that you just wanted to go into the woods and live around some people who look like you and are not trying to steal your hair straighteners or whatever's going on in the store?
And now you're in the international news cycle.
You're getting investigated by the attorney general for the crime of just trying to be left alone.
eric orwoll
And overwhelming as well.
So I'm getting messages from CNN, ABC.
I never thought I'd be in this position.
And it is something that's pretty modest what we're doing.
It's a small community in a rural area.
It's already 95 plus percent white.
We're building cabins and roads and having wells drilled, raising livestock, tending gardens.
And the international media is very interested.
And it's a clear double standard.
We know why they're interested.
For those who don't know, there's actually in the U.S. a black, indigenous, and person of color intentional community council.
You can find their website, and they have 30 different communities listed under that organization.
So clearly, other people are allowed to associate on the basis of their ethnicity or their race.
There are Jewish communities.
There are Native American reservations.
If it's good that we gave the Native Americans their own space to maintain their own cultures, why is it bad for a group of white Americans who were at one point the dominant culture here in our country?
Why is it bad to give us our own space?
elijah schaffer
Well, that's the question I want to dive into.
You have permission to take your headphones off.
I'm taking these off.
unidentified
It's too hot.
elijah schaffer
No, it's too damn hot in here, actually.
I'm just starting to profusely sweat.
It's like literally like 80 degrees for some reason in the studio.
But, you know, I want to talk about the story.
So essentially, what happened, from my understanding, is you went ahead and you went to open up this community.
This is what it was.
This is why you started it.
It was to be around people who were like you.
You wanted just to have the peace and the quiet, the uniformity, the similar interests like anybody would.
And that's sort of the question we have tonight: do white people have the right to freely associate?
And of course, running the control boards in the back is the one, the only Mike Mendoza.
We're going to ask you, Mike, if you could speak for all people not white.
Are we allowed to live?
michael mendoza
Yes.
elijah schaffer
Thank you very much.
eric orwoll
I heard it there, folks.
elijah schaffer
All right, let's jump into the story for today from Disclose TV.
So, initial AG office review finds nothing illegal with the whites-only community.
The preliminary review by the Arkansas AG Tim Griffin's office found no evidence that Return of the Land, a whites-only private membership association in Sharp County, has violated laws.
Spokesman Jeff LeMaster stated, So far, we have not found anything that we've identified as illegal at this point.
LeMaster said the ongoing investigation has not identified any illegal activities, despite Griffin's initial claim that group's actions raise all sorts of legal issues.
Founder Eric Orwell and colleague Peter is it Sear?
Siri purchased the land near Raven to create a community to preserve white American culture and identity by excluding blacks, Jews, and other non-whites.
Orwald states that groups the group complies with state and federal laws.
Quote, this is you, were found to be in violation for simply existing as a community for people of European heritage, regardless of due diligence we performed to organize lawfully, and the implications for freedom of association in our country are bleak.
If that happens, the government will have made the statement that I believe that American people will not appreciate.
Return of the land operates on a private club requiring $25 membership fee and vetting process.
Members can buy land units for $6,000 for three acres, really.
Siri claims that setup avoids Fair Housing Act violations as it's not real estate dealings.
All right.
I'm curious about this.
I told you in the other show that I was going to kind of get into this.
How the hell are you getting away with this?
Like, what is what is like, what is it that makes this legal?
Because I mean, like, hey, this seems very illegal to a lot of people.
And clearly, the AG says it's not.
So what is this?
eric orwoll
Well, it's a private association.
The Fair Housing Act is meant to regulate the sale of real estate in the public domain.
We are not selling real estate.
A, we have a corporation that owns the land that we live on.
We are shareholders in that corporation.
So there's no exchange of titles or deeds going on.
We don't sell real estate whatsoever.
And we're a private club, not a public market for housing.
And private clubs in both the Civil Rights Act and the Fair Housing Act are exempted from many of the laws that are in those documents.
So we're relying on those exemptions as well as the fact that we're not actually selling real estate in the first place.
elijah schaffer
So yeah, so it's, but it has to be a high trust society then for people to like come in and realize that they're not going to get kicked off the homes they're developing.
I'm sure you're building and tilling the land from scratch.
Am I right?
eric orwoll
Correct.
Yeah.
And we do have legally enforceable claims to our property.
So each share is associated with some part of the company property, namely the land, right?
And if you build stuff on your area on the land, then that increases the value of your share.
So you can sell that share for whatever price you want to set to other members within the PMA.
And if there was some kind of behavior issue, you know, you develop a drug habit or you're doing something that's unhealthy for the community as a whole.
And we have very loose standards.
We're not like some really invasive HOA or something.
But if something just got out of hand and we had to process someone out, then we have procedures where someone would be fairly compensated.
So we would bring in an assessor and then their share would be on the market within the PMA.
If no one in the PMA wanted to buy it, then the company itself would be on the hook to ultimately buy that person out.
elijah schaffer
Have you had to do that yet or anything like that?
eric orwoll
Luckily not.
No.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so let me talk about this.
So let's talk about the legality of this.
What I'm going down in here, it's kind of interesting, is you had tweeted this.
You had tweeted, we need to not make the same mistakes of America's previous generations.
And this video was put out directly.
Check this out.
unidentified
Your children are screwed.
Your grandchildren are screwed.
Your way of life is gone.
Society is crumbling.
Our values are in the gutter.
Your parents fit.
Your grandparents fit.
Society has failed across the board.
It's generational failure.
We as a people have to save ourselves.
And you are the one who knows about it.
You are the one who understands.
Because you're conscientious enough that you went out and you educated yourself.
You learned the truth about race.
You learned your heritage.
And now you have to be a father to our pizza.
You have to be the one who's not going to be appreciated.
Who's going to do more than your fair share?
Who's going to continue doing work even in the face of mockers?
You're not going to get an easy fix where you sacrifice nothing and make no changes to your life.
It's just not going to happen.
If you care about your way of life, you personally must perpetually build that society.
You.
It's not about clout and social media points, viewers, money.
It is about the future of your people.
And right now, there is a way you can contribute to it.
All right.
elijah schaffer
So, Trudeau Land, I like the little bit of some German text there.
I'm not entirely sure.
But Emma and Henry, you know, it's funny as we were talking earlier about sort of the wonderfulness of growing up in a multicultural society.
You know, you grew up in a very multicultural neighborhood.
Tell us a little bit about what it's like growing up around Lake Worth people, or as we call those inner city blacks, you know, so it's just a city up north here.
It's just a very special place, very scary place where a lot of people from the inner cities live.
But yeah, what was it like as a white guy growing up in a multicultural world?
michael hennessey
It was definitely tough.
I mean, having a last name Hennessy, I think saved me in a lot of the scenarios.
Being in an every rap song kind of helps you out.
But no, the crime rate was really high.
We had robberies all the time, shootings.
I witnessed a bunch of those growing up.
So it was very destructive.
And it's kind of what the society was allowing to happen in a way.
You know, that's why I think a lot of people gravitate towards what you're doing is because of the fact is, you know, the government has pretty much given up on us.
We see that day in and day out with all the people who are being freed with crazy crimes, you know, low bonds, allow them to get out.
If a white person tries to stand up to the crime to actually, you know, people like Daniel Penny, what we've seen is that he was prosecuted as well.
So yeah, we're getting tired of it.
I mean, even just recently, we had the couple that got beat up at the jazz festival and the police commissioners like trying to shut it down because they don't want to get that narrative out there because it takes away.
So, you know, I know that we're all tired of it.
I growing up that way, I would never want to have kids and have them grow up the way I grew up.
It was really rough.
So to have an opportunity to go somewhere where we can actually feel safer, be around more like-minded people, people like ourselves, you know, is something beautiful about that.
And so I think that that's one of the reasons, as you mentioned, too, I noticed you said that they're attacking you basically because, you know, it's a white community, where if it was any other nationality, they wouldn't care.
They have the Jewish people, I believe, are in Georgia or something, or no, the black, the black community was in Georgia.
And one thing I remember I was telling you before that I've seen is that Team Z, when you talk to Team Z, perfect example, the guy on TMZ was giving you a hard time.
He's like, oh, they have that big lie.
We're supposed to be a melting pot.
And we're definitely not supposed to be a melting pot.
You know, this was created, you know, what is it, early 1900s, that someone came up with that idea.
But it's not how society is supposed to be.
That same organization, TMZ, after giving you a hard time, went ahead and just, what was like a year ago or something, they were actually promoting an all-black community.
So for them, the black community was perfectly fine.
But to promote, you know, what you have going on now, they're deeming it as evil or whatever it may be.
So we really get an idea of how culture is right now and how we're being destroyed within.
And it's great.
My hat's off to what you guys are doing.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so let's talk about what you're doing from a news perspective.
You know, a lot of people are talking about, you know, where you chose to put this place specifically.
And as we talk about that, I want to remind you guys a quick break from the main topic.
You know, what he's doing is pretty crazy.
What we're all trying to do is break away.
And, you know, people are trying to get out of the financial markets as well, making waves in traditional finance.
It's kind of like a thing of the past.
If you're not well connected and you're not, you know, ethnically similar to people, you're not going to get inside.
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All right.
So coming back into this, this is a little look inside of what you're doing.
And I want to talk about it because they say it's illegal.
This is by Sky News.
It's an Australian broadcasting corporation.
Listen to this.
unidentified
No blacks, no Jews, no gays.
High up in the Ozark Hills in the state of Arkansas, dozens of people have been working hard, building houses and a new type of community.
It's called Return to the Land, and it is a town open to white people only.
They are millennials and Gen Z.
And this is a new update of age-old prejudice.
eric orwoll
What we've done here is establish a place where we have control over who our neighbors are.
And that is just for the sake of preserving, you know, our culture.
unidentified
And that culture effectively was saying this is a white culture, a white, certain place.
eric orwoll
White American culture.
unidentified
But what this sounds like is bringing back segregation.
Is that a fair assessment?
eric orwoll
It's free association.
So we're not trying to keep other people down.
unidentified
This is a small settlement in the middle of the Ozarks.
But they are being kept out.
Even if.
eric orwoll
Well, I mean, you don't let everyone into your home.
unidentified
Around 40 people live here.
Hundreds more from across the world have paid to be members.
And while the men do the physical labor, the women take care of the children who live here full-time.
It could be a very loving community if you're part of the community, but if you're black, if you're turning or if you're gay, you can't be part of that community.
They can have their own communities, and they already do.
You might be wondering how any of this can be legal.
Return to the land is structured as a private members' association, which they believe allows them to discriminate on the basis of ethnicity, along with other factors.
That has yet to be tested in the courts and may well fail.
The Arkansas Attorney General has said his office is now reviewing the matter as a result of our reporting, and that there is no room for racial discrimination in Arkansas or anywhere in a free society.
elijah schaffer
All right, so let's talk about this settlement.
I think this is fascinating.
It's funny how the media comes in.
You get the ADL criticizing you guys.
And then the media comes in, does hit pieces, and then suddenly there's investigations from the government.
Why do you think they care so much about you guys?
You just said that, like, we're in the middle of the Ozarks.
So tell me, like, where that, like, where that is.
You don't have to dox your exact address, but like, how far is this from an airport?
How far is this from like, you know, movie theaters?
And, like, why do you think suddenly they care so much about this?
And who is that that cares about you guys?
eric orwoll
It's a great question.
We're about two and a half hours north of Little Rock.
We're in northern Arkansas in the Ozark Mountains.
Not a real dramatic mountain range where we are.
It's more like the Piedmont kind of foothills of the Ozarks.
It's, I think, the oldest mountain range in North America.
Beautiful country.
I mean, we like it an awful lot.
The Ozarks has a reputation for being a little bit hick, you know, poor, very white.
And that's one of the reasons we chose to go there.
You know, Arkansas historically has been a very conservative state.
And there is a history of white identitarians and even white nationalists and other groups organizing in the state.
So, you know, we did consider other areas and we expected that eventually, because it's a white community, it would come under fire.
So we chose a place where the judges would very likely be on our side.
I don't think that the attorney general is on our side, but it's probably not the first time he's encountered the idea that white people want to live among their own kind.
It's sort of just normal in Arkansas.
Many people feel that way.
elijah schaffer
Well, I don't think it's like abnormal, genuinely, that people would feel that way because, you know, quite frankly, I think living around white people has become sort of like a right that people feel that they have.
And they become so accustomed to living around us that they tell us to our faces we have no culture, right?
Like they live in our culture, experience it.
A culture so powerful, it's been exported to the entire world, by the way.
You know, I mean, not just American culture, but just, you know, European Eurocentric culture.
And then they don't even realize that, you know, the cities, you know, there are cities in Zimbabwe now that we call it or in South Africa, which we just call Africa now because it's not any different than the rest of it at this point.
You know, those, the architecture looks similar to ours, and it looks like we don't have any because you're living in our style of buildings.
You're not living in mud huts.
You're living in air-conditioned, drywalled and wood and stone buildings that are our designs.
And quite frankly, even in Asia, Asia looks a lot of the way it does.
If you look at Singapore, Hong Kong, you know, South Korea, that's American architecture, skyscrapers.
And then most of China has just stolen our patents and architectural prowess and sort of just mimicked the way that we built things, right?
But even then, they put lights all over their buildings and stuff.
It's like they have their own way of doing it.
It's just a unique thing to me that on one hand, people will say you don't have a culture.
And then when you go to preserve it, they should say, well, who cares?
Cause there's nothing to preserve.
But then they're going to say to you, oh, don't do this.
It's like, so you do admit we have a culture and there is something to preserve.
It's kind of like a little bit of a hypocritical statement.
eric orwoll
That's why, you know, they're attacking us because there's cognitive dissonance.
Everyone, when they learn about any scientific subject, they learn about the history of it.
And they have this list of white men who discovered everything important until the last few decades where maybe some others contributed.
So the entire world is living on the abundance and prosperity brought about by white European culture.
But the people in charge want control.
And European people throughout the world have always produced from whatever we have in us, prosperity, innovation, wealth, and they can't control that.
They want us subject to their financial systems inside their networks, inside their control, which is why now they've kind of stripped away what is rightfully ours, our history, our heritage, our culture.
And they've said, that's just world history and heritage and culture.
You don't have any of that.
You know, newcomers, they have a culture.
They can show up at the multicultural fair or whatever and represent their culture.
You have nothing.
And it's to disempower us so that they have the power.
elijah schaffer
So some people are calling it white conda.
You know what I mean?
Like sort of a play on words, which I think is funny because the whole Wakanda joke is that there really isn't a great black civilization.
It's a very sensitive topic to people in a lot of ways because, you know, we're talking about the Sydney Sweeney ad for a while.
You know, people get offended by things that are true.
There's a gene ad where she says nothing and everyone's like, oh, white people aren't better looking than black people.
What the hell are you talking about?
And you're going, hey, what the?
This is very telling of what people are insecure about because nobody said that.
Now, it might be true to me because I'm a white guy and I have freedom of attraction, but Hennessy and I are attracted to different things.
However, I will say this.
This is not to call you up, but I'm saying I also know this, just like I believe white girls are like this whole obsession with BBC.
Shout out to Joey Manorino and the rest of the gang.
You know, I believe that they're attracted because of programming from, you know, rap music and like all the, you know, every time they put a black person on screen, they're amazing.
They're a good father.
They're a rapper.
You know, they're a sports player.
You know, they put this like this artificial front and then they suppress the crime videos and what's really going on in the world.
And they say these guys, even them, it's like they've got big, you know, genitals and all this stuff and they're very masculine.
And so you sort of like create an attraction that isn't natural because women are just attracted to power and fame and these things.
And so they sort of introduce this where, you know, growing up, I dated Hispanic women as well myself.
I guess Latinas they call them, but that's all that we had available, right?
That's just what was there around me.
But I don't know, like I think when we talk about this stuff, I think there's the impacts of being raised not around your own people.
Like, I think it does affect us.
And I'm not saying for the worse or the better, but like you're not going to be attracted.
You're not going to be attracted to certain people or go after them naturally.
Like if you're in Sweden, you're surrounded by all Swedish women, you're probably going to marry and be with a Swede.
And I think now it's like, you know, we kind of have a choice.
It's like reproduce or don't reproduce at all.
You don't really have the luxury of choosing whether you're the race of your person really, especially if you live in an area where there aren't a lot of white people around.
I think that's 100% true.
I don't know if you agree with me.
I think you go with what you got around you.
michael hennessey
I mean, yeah, to an extent, you go with what you got around you.
I grew up in an all-black neighborhood, but I don't date anybody who's black.
And I don't mean that's just my personal preference.
That's just not what I'm attracted to personally, not attacking, but just not what I'm attracted to.
So, I mean, yes, I'm sure it does play a part because you become and feel like, okay, this is what I'm supposed to do.
This is what's more natural.
But me personally, no, that was not the case.
eric orwoll
I don't think it's healthy to live that way.
I think it hurt my self-confidence as a boy, you know, living as a minority and being bullied by other groups.
There's going to be intergroup competition and rivalries, and people will have their shared sense of Mexican identity or whatever it is, and they'll use that to group up together and they will turn against people who don't share that identity.
And it's obviously naive to pretend that is not the case.
So I think also we don't understand what we've lost for millennia.
It was just given that you would be in an area with people that looked like you, that spoke like you, that thought like you.
And now we're having to navigate this multicultural, multiracial space where everyone's confused.
We can't understand each other.
Communication is breaking down.
elijah schaffer
Well, let's want to bring up something.
So you were on TMZ.
This is fascinating to me that you're not being blackballed, but you're actually, people are interviewing you.
And I get a little bit nervous.
Like, call the Richard Spencer effect, where, you know, also very popular commentator of America First podcast, Nick Fuentes.
He's like on a generational run right now.
He's kind of everywhere.
You know, sometimes I wonder, I ask myself the same question.
Like, yeah, he's insanely talented and he's correct on, especially on like racial issues or, you know, control, control issues and who's in power.
But I'm always wondering, like, okay, why is the left-wing media playing this guy all of a sudden?
Like, what, what is the reason?
Because they always have an ulterior motive.
Do they think that he's making, is it because he makes Trump look bad?
Is it because the tides are changing and they're kind of throwing a bone so that we can think they're more fair and balanced?
Are they trying to make us look crazy?
Like, I don't know.
I just don't think they have good motivations.
Oh, and then some people are like, it's a win.
I'm like, well, it is kind of a win, but I want to know what they're really planning, right?
So you getting a lot of interest on one hand, it's like, yeah, it's a win because it's like your ideas are getting out there.
But why would you be getting all of this interest?
Because typically, like, you know, I remember when they were trying to like basically destroy Richard Spencer and stuff and like kind of like mess up the whole alt-right movement.
That's when they started putting him on like media and started, you know, doing this whole thing.
There was definitely a plan and then they slammed down, right?
So it's like, so what's going on here?
You're on TMZ and he brings up this melting pot idea.
Check this out.
harvey levin
To be honest, I have a problem with exclusion and just fundamentally saying somebody is different because of their religion or the color of their skin.
I mean, that's my personal opinion.
How is this community funded?
My understanding is you have something like a GoFundMe.
Can you explain that?
eric orwoll
The actual purchase of the property was funded by the community members themselves.
And up to this point, almost everything that we've done has been our own initiative, our own resources.
We've put up some fundraising campaigns, like a legal fundraiser that has been very successful.
And that's necessary because many people would try to attack what we're doing as illegal.
I've also raised funds to fund a tour to expand our projects, not just to full-time residential communities, but also recreational areas and community centers.
I think it's good for the white community to have our own spaces, just like I think the black community should have its own spaces and the Jewish community clearly has its own spaces.
harvey levin
But the way you put that is that there is a black community, a Jewish community, and so on and so on and so on.
And a lot of people say, that's not America anymore.
That may have been America 70 years ago, but it's not today.
America is a melting pot.
You go to a place where I live, like Los Angeles, and there's no, I mean, there are pockets, but there's really no such thing as entire communities anymore.
So that's not America anymore.
eric orwoll
There are certainly Jewish community centers.
Do you have a problem with that?
harvey levin
Well, I have a problem with exclusion, to be honest.
I have a problem with exclusion and just fundamentally saying somebody is different because of their religion or the color of their skin.
I mean, that's my personal opinion.
elijah schaffer
So jokes aside, you know, let's not talk about race here for a second.
Let's talk about a different topic, which is Muslim and Jewish community centers have discrimination on gender, right?
I mean, this is not in the bathroom.
This is on where men and women can associate.
So is that, you know, that's discrimination too.
Fair housing act, all this stuff.
It's on, you know, race, gender, immutable characteristics.
You know, there's this whole fight of like, well, Jewish centers, you know, have men and women's spaces.
They don't dance together.
They're very distinct.
And I personally don't have a problem with that.
I think, you know, if you're Jewish and you, I don't, I don't, I don't want to be in a Jewish community center.
Sometimes I feel like America has become a Jewish community center.
You know, that's going to, that's what it's like working in any, in any big conservative ink media company.
It's a Jewish community center as well, where you have the goys and the Jews sort of separated.
One serves the other.
I'll let you put that together.
But it is interesting that, you know, white people are so ingrained of like, if we do it, it's bad because it's like the same thing as a Wikipedia fallacy, right?
Black supremacy, good, right?
This is a movement towards black solidarity, you know, Chicano movement, you know, brown unification, and then white supremacy, a racist, sexist, bigoted, you know, homophobic, you know, ideology that seeks to destroy everybody else.
And it's like, I don't know.
I mean, how do you, how do you deal with the accusations that what you're doing isn't isn't hateful?
And I don't mean that ironically.
I know it's not, but I mean, you're doing a pretty damn good job at representing yourself.
But how are you doing?
What is your ideology that's mitigating or that sets you apart from, let's say, a regime that does want to kill these people or harm these people?
eric orwoll
Right.
I think that's also part of why the media is latching on to this because they're not expecting me to be so reasonable about it.
You know, this is motivated on love.
I have a genuine love for my tradition.
I went to school for classical European music.
I study classical European philosophy.
You know, I want this tradition to live on.
And I try to emphasize that and I point out the clear double standards.
And I think that's, I guess, what's allowed me to effectively persuade at least a lot of the people in the comment section.
You know, people are used to associating white identitarianism or white nationalism with skinheads, with people who go out and commit street violence.
And there has been a lot of that.
And so there's just kind of this presumption on the part of the media that we're probably going to fit in the same mold, especially since we're a rural community in the Ozarks.
You know, they think we're going to be inbred and low IQ.
elijah schaffer
But I was thinking to be like some hick.
And then you get some like Aryan Chad Super King who's like, I'm in a polo t-shirt.
Nice to meet you.
Like low-key, not in a mean way, like the stereotype of like when black people make fun of white people, they literally pretend to be you.
They're like, oh, hey, nice to meet you.
I'm a white person.
Welcome to my community.
And you're like, the way you make fun of us is that we're polite and kind.
That's not really bad.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Right.
eric orwoll
Well, we have the principled position too.
Even if you're not a white identitarian, you should believe that we're allowed to go our own way.
It's what this country is founded on.
We broke away from England for religious freedom and the ability to found our own intentional communities in the way that we wanted to.
That's literally why we exist as a nation.
And, you know, now there are other people here.
There are other groups of people who currently have their own communities.
That double standard should be very apparent, but all of those other communities don't make international news.
Ours does.
And I think just because we're the principled position, because we're non-violent, because we try to be very articulate and intelligent about what we're doing, it's falling flat and the people are on our side.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I don't know.
I want to say, Hennessy Rolless, you brought this up.
I don't know if you want to address this.
It's not the hypocrisy.
You know, TMZ brought this up.
eric orwoll
Yep.
michael hennessey
They're going ahead and they were promoting this in 2020 of a black community.
So, you know, they're very hypocritical, hypocrites in basically what they're saying.
And the whole reason that they are attacking you like they are is simply because you are breaking whatever mold they're trying to put us into.
You know, a lot of times we see it with crime statistics.
They're always changing it that, you know, they'll change Spanish people to white so they can say that we have, you know, white is the biggest problem in the United States.
You know, replacement theory is a real thing.
We're seeing it.
They're destroying our history.
They're destroying our culture.
Even the shooter that they just had in Manhattan, they tried claiming he was white because they were just really hoping that it was a white man.
eric orwoll
That was crazy.
michael hennessey
Yeah, something they could really latch on to.
And we see this time and time again.
So when you come on and you speak well and you show that it's not a hateful thing, but instead a love for your heritage and, you know, and your ancestors and trying to bring people together, I'm sure that makes them more fearful.
But you can see the hypocrisy of TMZ going ahead and trying to promote this all-black community, which from what I heard, it didn't work out well.
I guess it just ended up be a bunch of RVs and like a little dirt spot.
eric orwoll
I don't know if they finished it well, but they got a lot of money in donations, though.
michael hennessey
They did, yeah.
eric orwoll
Like $25 million, which is the black intentional community in Georgia.
And it's not a residential community yet.
They'll get to it.
Sure.
elijah schaffer
Do you see this?
Did you see this, though?
This is actually one of my favorite things.
This is like absolutely fantastic.
Did you see this?
That Acon's, this is AI.
So I don't even get into this.
This is true.
We covered on the show.
Acon's planned futuristic city in Senegal, Acon City, has been scrapped and the land reallocated for a different project.
Initially envisioned as a $6 billion smart city.
It was intended to be real-life Wakanda with modern technologies like blockchain and cryptocurrency.
However, after delays and missed deadlines, the Senegalese government has canceled the project and is now developing an area into a $1 billion resort.
And this is like not a joke.
I'm going to go to the Guardian.
They built one building over several years and getting like hundreds of millions of dollars in investment.
Look at this.
This is all they built.
That's not a, do you see that?
eric orwoll
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Isn't that crazy?
So it's not crazy, actually.
But I'm saying, like, this is like, this is a dream.
And white people used to dream about building our own, our own Acon city.
eric orwoll
This is our inspiration.
We wanted to build the white Wakanda, you know?
elijah schaffer
It's white conda.
You got to do the white conda teachers.
It's like, no, but it's funny, though, because it's like, we used to dream of building, and now we tell white people, no, no, don't build your own thing.
You got to take what's already been built.
Like, this is why everyone feels the angst that nothing is developing.
Because instead of like building new things for our people, we're trying to figure out how to include people in what we've already built.
And it's destroying the progress.
So everyone's, so that's why everyone's progressive culturally, but it's like, we're not, that's not what progress is.
Progress is like you start building skyscrapers and you have meritocracy of your own people and you're competing against yourself.
And you're not competing on racial standards and language standards and gender standards.
You're competing on grit and maybe a little bit on religiosity.
You know, you're always going to have a little bit of like the prot Catholic split.
You want your issues to be over like what form of Christianity are we going to follow?
Not whether or not we have a Hindu governor in Ohio, right?
Like that's a more just fight.
Like even the fight among Anglos of like, is paganism or Christianity, you know, a better form is like the Adam Green types that are like very much against this.
You know, he's a Jewish guy and you're following him.
And I can respect people like that for their own perspective.
I'm not a wignat, you know, I'm not a neo-Nazi or any or any of these things per se.
I'm definitely not a skinhead.
Five more years of life and I will be not by choice, unfortunately.
That's what this industry does to you.
But I do, I always feel my main problem with our society, our polite society is like we need to change it from being too kind to politely asking people to please step out of the way, to go home and to let us continue to build our country.
Now, that being said, I want to say one quick shout out.
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It's like, you know, I support Trump.
These are like kind of offensive t-shirts.
By the way, the Hollywood on Fire t-shirt, which I have, by the way, is so sad.
Being from Hollywood, you know, there was a white neighborhood in LA.
It was called the Pacific Palisades, and it was burned to the ground.
And Malibu as well is a white area.
It's weird that they're like two of the whitest districts in all the country.
You think, you know, West LA's white's actually Jewish.
But Palestinians was an almost completely white district and it burned to the ground and they also got robbed of their money.
That's also kind of crazy.
And then, you know, you ask about, you know, even that's another question too about that.
You know, you saw the North Carolina, they intentionally didn't help the communities because they were white.
That's a reminder.
Your government hates you.
And as Wigger said, they, you know, not only want you to die, but they think it's funny.
On top of that, there's a lot of Christian iconography.
You got the Crisis King shirt.
I like they don't try too hard.
I like how it's not like, it's just like, it's just simple.
It's like crisis king.
It looks nice.
And it's got a really like, you know, subtle, not necessarily, you know, Catholic.
It's just like, Jesus is the king of kings.
And on top of that, they have a couple other really funny t-shirts that I love.
I mean, these are all really cool.
The Catholic, you know, iconography.
They have some of this racial stuff.
I don't know what I think about all of it personally.
Some of you like it, but I like this one too.
This is like sort of Orwal's feeling: the fatigue is real, right?
So that's that's crazy.
Is that a monkey skull?
That's crazy.
michael hennessey
The uh, that is crazy.
Yeah, the propaganda one that I have.
We actually, when we were in Dallas, I got stopped twice because people enjoyed it.
They took pictures of it, the blue propaganda.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I don't know where that is.
Let me see real fast.
michael hennessey
I have it on my screen.
I don't know if Mike can show it.
elijah schaffer
I don't know if Mike can bring it up.
michael hennessey
But yeah, no, I wore that and I had a lady stop.
She said her dad would love it.
It just says propaganda, has the Jewish star on it and the transgender flag above it.
And yeah, I've gotten a lot of compliments for that one.
elijah schaffer
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And honestly, they do wear them out and get stopped.
It's just like funny, you know, to red pill people.
I like to red pill people all the time.
Even the guy that was at the U.S. Postal Service, I just found out now you need an ID to ship things now from FedEx.
That's like the first new thing.
You have to have a real ID.
So we talk about databases, weird conspiracies, just wait till you not need an ID to ship anything, a letter, anything.
So this is going to be a very interesting future.
Make sure that you start waking people up because we can win this.
Getting back in the story, I want to spend some time here because you're here.
You know, we were just in Texas.
And unironically, we were in Irving, we were in Richardson, and we were in Frisco.
And we noticed that it was very much not white.
Texas is actually the most, I believe it's reduced its white population the most of any state in the union.
This idea of what Texas is is a myth.
It's running on legend.
That's not what it is.
Idaho is the opposite.
But it was just brought out here.
Check this out.
That in Irving, Texas, which is where the Blaze studios actually are, right there in the old, you know, Paramount studios, that they're actually building entirely Muslim communities.
This is a big problem in Texas, and nobody seems to really care.
Listen to this.
unidentified
They already have it.
There's housing tracks, communities in Irving, or the street names are in Muslim.
They have an allah up.
elijah schaffer
That's not, that's not an by the way, Muslim is not a language, but whatever that means, courts.
unidentified
Their school teaches the Quran, and they shun Western ways.
The residents say this is one of many communities that Texas will be the start and the home for all Muslims.
It's already happening, folks.
The further I dig, the more that I see.
And they're boasting about it.
So when Governor Abbott swears that there is no Shahira in Texas, they have Islamic only parts.
elijah schaffer
This guy's not right.
unidentified
But these communities have a huge mosque in the middle of them.
Everybody walks to the mosque.
They don't allow any pets, no dogs, because they don't believe they.
I don't know what it is they do, but they don't like dogs.
They're not allowed in the community.
They're already here.
They're already doing it.
They say this is the future.
We're trying to stop Epic City, and they've already done it.
This will be another one.
And that's why when we say they want them throughout the whole state, they're working on it and they got help.
I mean, I guess we didn't know.
I didn't know, but it's happening within Irving.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
This is where I don't like some of these guys that are concerned that come across low IQ.
He's like called Sharia Shahira.
And he's like, they wreck the streets in Muslim.
And he's like, this is Alu Akbar.
I don't know what that means.
Dude, I look, dude, a very basic Google search could have told you what that meant.
But, but anyway, I digress.
My point is that there is a Islamification of a lot of places, you know, in the West, in London.
People don't seem to have a problem with that.
They tend to invite the Islamic culture.
They tell us to be accepting of it.
So, you know, and I know we're talking about Texas here.
You know, Chris Menz, the premier, aka the governor of New South Wales, where Sydney is in Australia, you know, said it's good that we have hate speech laws because it's good we don't have free speech like America, lest someone from our nation make the newcomer feel uncomfortable.
And it's like, so they care less about the fact that the newcomers are making the people of their land feel uncomfortable than they are about us making them uncomfortable.
Why do you care more about the newcomers that aren't your shared culture that are who you are than you are about us?
You know, this is our land, not their land.
They're guests here.
They need to be molding to us.
And our governments have let us know that they are fighting for the immigrants.
They are fighting for the people who are not like us.
And they will jail us.
They will prosecute us and they will try to stop us.
I mean, I think you probably, it might make you seem a little bit strange.
You see the hypocrisy, right?
Where every other community is allowed to associate.
There's entire Jewish, everyone knows where the Jewish neighborhoods are.
Dude, this city, Boca Raton, is 52% Jewish, okay?
It's like 17 synagogues here.
It's literally called the colony.
There's a Jewish ethno-state here.
I think it's the second most Jews other than in Brooklyn and in Tel Aviv.
Everyone knows where the Jews live and they have their Jewish communities and there's country clubs here that you can't join if you're not Jewish.
And nobody seems to have a problem with it.
But you want to go live out in the Ozarks and it happens to be white and Christian and you're suddenly demonized.
I thought these people didn't even like the flyover states.
They didn't even care about what goes on in the Ozarks.
You know, it's even like a phrase.
You know, it's like, what are you in the Ozarks or whatever?
It's like people don't care.
I don't know if you see the hypocrisy and what that makes you feel, but it's like, it does make me scared that we're the ones demonized.
michael hennessey
Right.
eric orwoll
And it's distressing to see parts of Western Europe operating under Sharia law or parts of Texas now.
It's what any group has to do, though, to try to organize and build power.
It's what Jews did in the West when they first came here.
They built intentional communities and operated as a network.
You know, when immigrant groups come in, they house a bunch of people together, they save resources, they get each other into the trades, they help educate each other, and they build up.
And that's what the Muslim community is trying to do in Texas.
And I think, unfortunately, in a sense, the way forward is to accept that these different groups will have their own independent communities and they will self-govern.
And we want our own space.
But if they do it, that opens the door for us doing it.
And the reason they're afraid of us doing it is that we're the ones who started civilization all over the world in multiple waves.
We build novel things that no one else can even imagine, right?
We're the ones who invented basically all modern science.
Like you were saying, our architectural methods, our art, even in music, you know, studying classical music, every music style around the world now uses the notation system and music theory that we developed centuries ago.
So because we have always been this source of novelty, innovation, scientific insight, they're afraid of us.
But if we operate on a level playing field, we have our communities, the Muslims have theirs, Jews have theirs, Native Americans have their reservations.
I'm totally fine with that situation because our communities will expand.
We will develop new things.
When we control our own education, when we're not brainwashing our youth to hate themselves, there's no limit to what we can accomplish.
And maybe we won't have a homogenous territory stretching from sea to sea like we did a few decades ago, but it's okay.
There are a lot of new possibilities that are opening up with new technologies in the coming decades.
You just kind of have to say, hey, this is the straight and narrow path that is open to us.
It is possible.
And other groups are trying to follow it.
But we have the track record actually of doing it better than all the other groups.
elijah schaffer
So here's a question.
Okay, obviously, here's a tweet.
You know, Borough Park, New York has 117,000 Orthodox Jews living amongst each other on 3.3 square miles.
They even have taxpayer-funded police force, but I'm supposed to care that 40 white people want to live alone on 150 acres in the Ozarks.
Little story time.
I have a very hard time renting homes.
Why do I not own a home?
I've moved seven times in seven years.
I have my job is the nature of it.
I've just had to move and move and move and move.
It hasn't been an investment strategy.
And in Texas, I had a very hard time finding people who would rent to me because they were minorities and stuff.
They would look me up, didn't like who I was.
And this is before any controversies or anything.
They just didn't like my politics.
They didn't want to rent to somebody like me.
And we had like six people, you know, whatever.
Out here in Boca, the same thing.
I would get to contract and everything.
They had to find out who I was.
And they were all Jewish landlords and they would refuse to rent to me, which is actually, they discriminated directly for my political beliefs, by the way, at one.
And we're considering going to court still.
I'm still working on the legality.
They literally did not want to rent to somebody for my political beliefs after already agreeing to the contract, which is a violation of the Fair Housing Act.
And, you know, Jews discriminate against me.
I didn't even know they were Jewish landlords because that's like, you can't even ask those questions.
You can't ask the real estate agent, what's the ethnicity of the landlords?
And like, you can't, there's no exchange, right?
I just find out, oh, and they happen to be Jewish because it's like, oh, yeah, you know, you know, Marion and Stephen, you know, Silverstein decide they don't want to rent to you.
And you're like, oh, why?
It's like they find your objectionably abhorrent beliefs, you know, to be whatever.
And they're like, okay.
So, you know, I have Jews discriminate against me.
I don't see me crying about it.
I finally found an Iranian guy who, quite frankly, doesn't like Jewish people, and he rented to me.
So it's nice.
And thank you to my awesome Iranian landlord.
Sorry about the nuclear facilities.
Hopefully we can fix those soon.
No, but I don't find anything weird about that.
I don't like renting, but I don't want to stay here long term.
Okay.
So I want to get out of here eventually.
I want to buy somewhere.
I don't think that's weird if 117,000 Orthodox Jews want to live amongst each other.
But it is a reminder that nobody says it's a problem.
They also have a taxpayer-funded police force.
Yada, yada, yada.
The crazy part is, is I don't think it, I don't think, I don't think white people intentionally try to live around each other in America anymore, but they do try to get away from crime, which is a form of getting away from non-white people.
Do you agree with that statement?
eric orwoll
I think we are self-segregating to some extent.
When white people move from blue states, they're moving to red states.
So it's political, but it's also, I think, they're moving to wider areas.
And people, when they go and check out, hey, do I want to buy a house here?
Everyone's conscious of that.
People self-segregate all the time in the lunchroom, in church.
It's just a natural part of life.
And I think as people are more mobile, really, after like COVID, there's been, I think, an uptick in internal migration in the country.
And also, I think that's sort of a good trend.
People are self-segregating.
They're moving into communities of like-minded people.
And I'm just leaning into that trend.
elijah schaffer
So listen to this, though.
There's a new Jewish community in North Carolina, and nobody seems to care about this.
Watch.
unidentified
For the last few days, we have seen the birth of a Yiddish community, a Jewish community in a place that's so new and so raw to what we're bringing to it that you can't help but to feel inspired.
This is something that families have been resonating with for a long time.
I've been keeping my eye on other developing startup communities.
And when this one came up, it was like everything I had been wanting because I recognized it right away.
There are very few opportunities where a person could be trailblazer.
Come out to somewhere where no Yiddish guys ever existed and bring the Dvaroshem to Davin to learn, to say, Omen Yehesh Miraba, Baruchu, and to connect with other Yiddish.
You go through life and you get all these types of feelings when you start.
elijah schaffer
All right, I've heard enough.
michael hennessey
Jukanda.
unidentified
Yeah, we got White Conda, Jew Kanda, Wakanda.
elijah schaffer
There's too many things.
My interest rate just went up on my car right there.
Seriously, I felt it.
I felt it fractionally reserved.
Oh man, what a crazy world.
No, but like, you know, that's presented in this beautiful way.
So isn't that beautiful Jews who are discriminated against?
unidentified
And they are.
elijah schaffer
By the way, I'm going to agree with this.
I've been seeing a lot of Jewish people posting on my timeline.
There's a lot of them.
And they're like, I'm getting afraid.
Anti-Jewish sentiments are rising in the country.
They are rising.
Universally in the West.
People are really becoming anti-Jewish.
And obviously, if you were Jewish, that's not a good thing, right?
That's not a good thing for you.
And I understand that.
I have Jewish friends.
They're very, very afraid, you know, of what this means.
And they ask me, you know, why are your people doing this?
And I go, my people, what do you?
So, oh, so we do have a people.
Oh, okay.
I was told for decades we didn't and we had no culture.
But now when we start collectivizing and voicing our issues, that is anti-Semitism.
That's what's crazy.
It's like when we start wanting what we want for us, that is anti-Semitic.
So does that mean that the things that are not good for us come from you?
Right?
That's the question.
It's like, wait a second.
So we're trying to get rid of, you know, porn and drugs and all this bullshit, you know, immigration stuff.
And that makes me anti-Semitic.
And we want our schools to not be anti-white.
And now it's anti-Semitic.
This is a very interesting situation I'm in.
So are you saying you guys brought that to us?
I'm not saying it, of course, because this show is all inclusive.
That's a big thing.
Everyone knows.
Got a Jewish wife, an inclusive family.
michael hennessey
They go to your family house.
There was a bunch of menorahs.
elijah schaffer
That's true.
michael hennessey
That's true.
elijah schaffer
That's actually true.
Yeah.
My dad had like, what, three menorahs in his house?
michael hennessey
Three or four of them easily.
elijah schaffer
Jeez.
michael hennessey
It's like, which is the man, but yeah, I noticed about four of them.
elijah schaffer
Anyway, anyway, it's a good time.
African Jewish family.
I'm very diverse.
But yeah, but that being said, you know, with all that being said and done, it's like, it's like they do know that they would want to go move into their own community because that does make sense, actually, because it's probably not safe in certain places for them.
People don't want them there.
It's like weird.
They're getting this feeling.
People want them out.
But I feel like, you know, jokes aside, we kind of feel like that too.
You know, like, chat, I'm getting messages from a lot of you guys asking for jobs here that are white men.
And quite frankly, I can't hire people right now.
But we talked about this in the future.
You know, things are already that bad for white people.
You can't get jobs if you're white.
And that's why Jews have created intentional communities in the past.
They're still doing it because there's this weird cycle where these keep like getting kicked out of countries and they have to re-get back into their own communities.
It's really, really, really a crazy thing.
I don't think there's ever been a time in history until this modern time where white people have been enemies in their own homelands.
And you talk about the intentionality of where this could go, right?
Like your idea isn't just to hide in the forest like them and just, you know, you know, rot away.
You see this as being like a national movement, like beyond just the one community.
eric orwoll
Yeah, I think all groups have the right to form their own communities as well.
I'm not against these Jewish communities or even the Muslim communities.
I think if we build our own communities, they're going to do really, really well.
I think we can create opportunities for ourselves.
I think we need to have faith in ourselves to go out and build from scratch.
In some cases, yeah, we can go find existing infrastructure, but we have to build our own businesses, work for ourselves, develop the land ourselves.
America, we have some of the least expensive real estate in the Western world, and we have very abundant natural resources.
There are so many businesses, they can't gatekeep you out, right?
And a lot of these businesses are not run efficiently.
You know, monocrop agriculture, we're getting this food that has no nutritional value.
People don't want to buy it.
We can get into agriculture.
We can get into some of these basic things, construction, real estate development.
You know, I don't want to run all of that through RTTL, but by creating these spaces where we can network, we can educate our own people, we can lift each other up, we'll start where it's appropriate for us to start in those sectors of the economy that are already dominated by people like us who have similar views.
You know, some others might want to move to the city and go to a big university, and that's fine too, but that's a small minority of people.
Whereas we can all network on the ground face to face now.
We can start doing that now, and there's no barrier.
We don't have to wait for some breakthrough where we get a billionaire supporting us.
We have the resources to do a lot with what we have now.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I don't, any, like, I feel like this project, I could be putting words in your mouth.
I want to get Mendoza's opinion on this too in a second, but I'm like, I'll just ask you, does this attract you?
Or like, what do you honestly feel about this?
And I'm not, not, not on the hands of like, I know you respect what he's doing and like, and, you know, beyond that, but you're a white guy and, you know, it's not going to be for everyone, right?
Like, what do you feel about this?
Like, what do you think about a community like this?
michael hennessey
I think it's a good community.
I think it's nice that you're standing up and not allowing yourself to, they try to make us feel bad about, you know, taking pride in our culture, taking pride in who we are.
So for you to actually step forward and say, you know what, no, you know, what my ancestor have built, what our culture is, there's something very beautiful about it.
And we want to, you know, protect that and we want to be able to help that grow.
So I personally, I enjoy it a lot.
So, you know, I'd love to come down, check it out sometime.
I know Elijah plans on going down there, I think, in a couple months.
So, but yeah, I mean, I think it's a good thing.
And, you know, there's no reason why, as you mentioned, you know, yes, we should, people should be able to, you know, we have a thing where we all come together, you know, with people who are more similar to us.
And, you know, if there are certain communities that, yes, I agree, that should be okay.
I do get a little nervous with the big mosques being built in Texas and all that other stuff.
I do worry that America is being infiltrated, the churches are being destroyed.
So that does bother me a lot.
But, you know, Europeans are really what came to America, built America.
And so to go ahead and help keep that safe and to help, you know, grow that even more, I think is something good.
eric orwoll
Right.
Directly fighting against that, though, you're taking a system that's anti-white and expecting it to be pro-white and anti-invading groups.
And that's too big of a turnaround.
It's just you can't flip that momentum.
You kind of have to play judo with it a little bit.
They're promoting diversity.
They're promoting the right of marginalized communities to have their safe spaces.
All of their logic about what rights groups are supposed to have applied to us means now we can go ahead and start doing what our ancestors do and pioneer new spaces.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And I, you know, we have other topics we'll be covering today too, outside of this.
Believe it or not, white people have other topics they care about than just white people, but I don't know why we don't care about this topic.
That's why Mendoza, I have to stay here, Mendoza.
Can Mendoza live there?
Or no, he's half white.
He's half white, but he's got a Latino seduction look.
We're always pulled into his gaze.
No, but I want to hear your opinion first.
And then before that, though, what constitutes white?
And would Mendoza be allowed in there with Lily Mendoza and his physiogamy?
eric orwoll
Well, clearly there's no hard boundary on what exactly is a white person.
We're not a white association.
We're an association for people of European heritage and ancestry.
And it's really a case-by-case thing.
You know, someone may have 5% Native American ancestry or 10% Lebanese ancestry or something like that.
And we have to look, is this person culturally aligned with us?
Are they someone who presents basically as a person of European descent?
Is this someone who's going to bring value to the community?
Or are they like a neat addicted to video games and porn?
In that case, we'd be probably less inclined.
unidentified
Oh, you're not going, Mendoza.
elijah schaffer
By the way, this is because someone asked Beast Vicious that is Men.
They spelled your name wrong too.
They said, Is Mendoza allowed?
It's not a Z. Sorry, keep going, man.
I just keep going.
So, yeah, so that makes sense.
But anyway, Mendoza, what do you think about this?
I mean, this is interesting.
michael mendoza
What do I think about the whole thing in general?
elijah schaffer
Like the community, because obviously, like, yeah, I don't know.
He's being nice by saying no.
You know, that was like a really long-winded, like, no.
But I don't think you're trying to move there, but I don't know what you think about it.
Like, as, you know, like, if you're, because this is a community you're not allowed to move to, but I know like if we go to produce, I'm sure we can bring whatever crew we want to to film and whatever we need to do.
eric orwoll
Yeah, we can have visitors.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
elijah schaffer
I'm like, I know, like, we know, we got a film, but like, oh, we'll probably be coming down with like an a day pass.
unidentified
A whole pass.
michael mendoza
It's like a gym.
elijah schaffer
No lynchings allowed on for the day.
No, but yeah, what do you think, man?
michael mendoza
I mean, I think it's good.
I mean, yeah, obviously, well, I'm not going to say anything that hasn't been said in the last hour, but every other group can do it.
White people should be able to do it.
And if other groups that, you know, typically destroy are able to create their own communities, I think it's only right that the race of people who are best known for what they've built and created should be able to make their own community because a lot of good things would probably come about.
So that's primarily the reason why I'm behind it.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, well, that's, by the way, and someone in the chat said that I'm a Fed for sure of Honeypot Fed because of the way my voice sounds.
That's called growing up in Los Angeles.
And unfortunately, it affects a lot of us very, very, very, very poorly in terms of that regard.
All right, we're going to be right back in a couple of minutes here with some stories, including Congressional Stock Trading Ban gets Senate panels okay.
We're talking about whether or not we think that there's any lack of corruption.
I know this is kind of stupid, but it's true.
Also, the Palestinian state, Gaza, surpassed 60,000 dead.
There were 18,500 murdered by the Jewish establishment.
It's according to official reports.
Has it been worth it?
And we're talking a little bit about starvation.
Mark Levin weighs in.
Plus, we also have some updates on Duncan to release his own version of the American Eagle ad featuring actor Gavin Casalengo and a few more updates on the culture, including TikTok now hiring IDF members to help manage their app after suddenly being banned and brought back.
We'll see you in just a couple of minutes.
We'll be right back with more, but don't forget, if you want to support, if you're going to leave for the second hour of the show, Eric, if you want to tell us how we can support and follow you, let us know as we go on the next trip.
eric orwoll
Sure.
If you're interested in the PMA, you can apply to join at return to the land.org.
You can follow me on X at Arville, A-A-R-V-O-L-L underscore.
And I have a YouTube channel as well.
I talk more about philosophy and stuff like that over there.
elijah schaffer
And the person thank you said, you don't sound like you're from LA.
You sound like you speak Yiddish.
Oy Vey.
It's like, yeah.
How do you think we get such good rates in Boca Raton?
You think this was by accident?
Of course not.
All right, we'll go to a quick break, and we'll see you just a couple minutes.
Don't go anywhere.
unidentified
I'm just
elijah schaffer
hearing the news right now that allegedly the $100 tier for Nick Fuentes' new network has 2,300 people in it.
which is $230,000 a month.
michael hennessey
Cha-Ching.
elijah schaffer
That is incredible.
Good for them.
Honestly, I almost said it's tax-free, but I don't think it's tax-free because I run a company and you got to pay taxes on super chats.
So I'm pretty sure that's taxed, but maybe not because if you just, it's business taxes.
So it's really the way business taxes work.
If he spends more than he brings in, or if he's expending more in that category, then technically he would pay a 0% tax.
But he also could donate it if it's a 501c3 and it's donations to a charity, then it also wouldn't be a problem.
I don't know how they run the back end.
However, if it is tax-free, good for them.
That's actually really incredible.
It's just a reminder because we're talking about building things, you know, that you can build something and you can be profitable.
So good, good, good for them.
And, you know, yeah, so that's crazy.
eric orwoll
You think he was motivated to stop reading super chats?
elijah schaffer
I said he's not reading super chats from anybody but them now, I think.
michael hennessey
Yep.
elijah schaffer
I think he was getting annoyed by the super chats, right?
Someone told me.
michael mendoza
No one said that.
He's not stopping super chats.
elijah schaffer
Wait, it said that in the chat here in the in the post.
michael mendoza
He's not.
elijah schaffer
Oh, that's what it says here.
michael mendoza
I watch every night.
elijah schaffer
Gloyper once said, I love the idea that only us $100 group chat members can send super chats from now on.
michael mendoza
That was a joke super chat from last night.
Someone said that.
And then Nick was like, oh, well, you know, I didn't say that.
You can still send your super chat, so it was a joke.
elijah schaffer
Oh, so he's going to be raising more money.
michael mendoza
Yeah.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Good for him.
Can got to respect the hustle and the grind.
Good for him.
I'm very, very happy about that.
It's just good.
As long as the money's not going to the Zionist news outlets, I'm very, very happy about that.
And if you also want to go on a legendary run and be one of the top podcasters in the world and start your own network, you too can have a quarter million dollars a year off that.
It's a little bit of a tough climb to the top.
But you can also do what you can do in your community, which is you can also support the things you want, including my friend here and what he's doing in Arkansas.
All right, I want to talk about a little bit of news.
I do think it's kind of important.
So, kind of in weird news.
Today, the United States Congress, in conjunction with Donald Trump, has decided that they are going to do basically anything they can to appease us besides release the Epstein files, right?
This is actually a very serious thing.
They want to make sure they do everything for us except for what we want.
Politico reports a congressional stock trading ban gets a Senate panel's okay.
Democrats agreed to exempt President Donald Trump to advance GOP Senator Josh Howley's bill.
A Senate committee voted to advance a bill that would ban stock trading by lawmakers, presidents and vice presidents over objections from most Republicans and with a limited carve-out for President Donald Trump.
Senator Josh Howey introduced the original bill barring members of Congress and their spouses from trading stocks.
It was named to Democrats' dismay for Representative Nancy Pelosi, who has come under scrutiny for her husband's extensive trading without evidence that any of it was done using insider information from Capitol Hill.
In conjunction with Senator Gary Peters of Michigan, the top Democrat on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, Howey offered an alternative to the panel that would ditch the contentious name and expand the prohibitions to the president and vice president, but only for future administrations.
We have an opportunity here today to do something that the public has wanted for us to do for decades, and that is to ban members of Congress from profiting on information.
The only thing that they can do now is open up a private group chat and charge $100.
And I'm just kidding, that's not what he said.
It's interesting, by the way.
The committee voted 8 to 7 with all Republicans.
Okay, look, making a lot of money.
I'm not against making a lot of money.
We just talked about the fact Fuentes is an organization making a lot of money, and I think I want our people to make a lot of money.
When I hear that, I'm happy.
I get happy when people that are trying to do something unique make a lot of money.
What I'm not happy about is when people choose to protect and serve and they exploit that office for financial gain because then it leaves you open to a lot of issues.
However, I don't actually care about the stock market thing as much as I care about the foreign lobbying with APAC and these foreign governments because, you know, corporations are working against our people.
But you know who else is working against our people?
Israel.
Literally working for their people.
And we do have a problem with foreign governments and corporations with enough money have the power to influence our politicians against us in ways that, you know, quite frankly, you hear Peter Thiel being asked if he wants humanity to continue.
And he says, I don't know.
You know, and you're like, okay, so why isn't, why is Palantir getting defense contracts then?
Obviously, we know it's a CIA thing or whatever.
But I mean, like, realistically, like, that's not a company the United States government should be supporting.
The founder doesn't even want humanity to continue, let alone the United States per se.
I feel like this is just more, you know, passing out candy just to appease your children because you wouldn't take them out trick-or-treating.
You know, it's like you robbed them of the main event, but you do give them a little bit something sweet to distract them.
I don't know about you feel about this, man, but I feel like this is pretty irrelevant.
It will have no large effect, and there will always be loopholes around this stuff.
eric orwoll
Right.
Would I rather have the government stop being influenced by a blackmail ring or by insider trading?
I mean, both would be great.
I can see why it's a good thing to cut back on that just because you don't want your politicians motivated by bets they're making.
On the other hand, the blackmail ring represents foreign influence in an organized way, and it's obviously so pervasive.
We don't know the extent of it.
And it'd be really nice to know the extent of it.
That's what everyone wants to see.
But I think far more people would go down than they could afford.
It's just not an option for them.
elijah schaffer
So, yeah, you did a lot of research on this.
michael hennessey
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like what you touched base on saying that what they're doing is they're just trying to see what can stick.
You know, yes, we don't want insider trading, but as Eric said, you know, I'm really against the blackmail ring as well.
But that's what they're looking for.
That's why we have MLK files come out.
It's the same reason why we have right now the insider trading, the Russia gate or whatever.
So what they're doing is they're just trying to find something else to get, I feel like, get our minds away from what's going on with Epstein and, you know, connecting that with our government, connecting that with Mossad and, you know, whatever it may be.
So I feel like they're just really just scattering right now to try to find something that they can give us.
So we'll be happy and just leave it alone.
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You know, I hate the news, man.
Like, I kind of like getting off topic here.
You know, I'm looking at all this and you're seeing some of the stuff that you provided here, which I thought was funny, like this, you know.
It turns out that like in the midst of betting on the SP, let's look at how members of Congress have fared on their insider trades versus what we're allowed to look at.
Check this out.
So you see Congress is going up.
Congress typically beats the SP 500, which is like kind of funny, especially after 2020.
You know, that's a crazy thing, how they knew which companies were going to collapse, which ones were going to rise.
And like all I really get from this is that the American people are not the priority of our government.
And, you know, it's sort of heartbreaking to me because I know our government, they're cheap sluts, right?
They're literally serve everybody except for us.
They're like call girls, but for some reason, they always sleep with the people asking them for free favors than the clients that actually have the real cash.
It's like we're the people that they're supposed to be servicing.
We're the people that we're the ones who really want them to serve us.
These other people have no loyalty to us, they have loyalty to themselves, themselves alone.
And we have a representative democracy.
We have a republic.
That's what we are.
I don't feel, and I don't sense in any way that our system can be reformed, primarily because in the primaries, you know, we have a system set up that where, you know, APAC has made it, you know, absolutely impossible to get a candidate through in any major party that isn't a sold-out Zionist or at least complicit in the Zionist move, which includes totality of anti-white agenda in the United States, wars overseas.
It includes economic manipulation, the lack of accountability for the banking cartel.
And in some ways, some people even say the cartel itself, international drug trade, and some sort of organized crime that benefits both the CIA and Mossad in the way that they make their international money.
I just like stories like this don't do anything for me anymore.
They don't make me hard.
You know, he's watching.
He's like, no, you see these booma maga guys just like jerking off to this stuff on their shows.
unidentified
Yes, yes, we finally happen.
elijah schaffer
And it's like, bro, you're fat.
And you like, you're fat and you keep losing and you just believe everything they tell you.
Again, I'm going to conclude this in saying I don't think this is going to do anything.
I think it's a distraction from the Epstein files.
Is it a win?
Maybe, but it's a win at what cost?
If we sacrifice all of our values and what makes us great, if we're going to sacrifice exposing pedophiles and Israeli blackmail rings just to stop some insider trading, that's how much they serve this foreign country, is that they will give up their access to this insider trading because they value that more.
Whether that's because they're blackmailed themselves and they'd rather be poor and have a reputation than, you know, be seen having sex with children, I don't know.
But I just wanted to point out that there's something very seriously wrong.
These people are willing to forego an easy opportunity to corrupt to corruptly make money than they will to actually expose the true evil, which is what's going on against children and control methods from foreign countries.
Or, well, I don't know if you have a final thought on this, but damn, I mean, I'm just very blackpilled on political stuff.
I don't really care about it actually sometimes.
eric orwoll
Yeah, no, we have to play hard to get.
We can't be the Johns pursuing our politicians.
We have to demand more.
They'll throw us crumbs and we have to just keep coming back.
Yeah, thanks for the Sydney Sweeney ad.
That was nice.
We still want more.
You know, you're going to end inside trading in Congress.
That's great.
Where are the Epstein files?
We can't be complacent.
We can't be satisfied with Pablo for the base or rhetoric or token gestures.
We have to stay trained in on what's most important.
And we're not going to be able to do that until we can mobilize voting blocks in effective ways.
And that's why I focus on, you know, the bottom-up side of things because I think that's the competitive edge we can actually exert.
We can influence politics, starting at the local level.
It's just a lot of work.
It'll take a lot of us involved.
You can't just have a few really, you know, elite human capital people pulling strings and make that kind of change, but it is change that we can make.
So, yeah, top-down politics, I'm also black pilled, but eventually we'll get to that level.
elijah schaffer
Henny, I know you wanted to talk a little bit about what Trump said about this to conclude here.
michael hennessey
Oh, well, you know, it kind of plays into the whole thing where they're just trying to get us super excited about it.
But Trump did come out.
He did put out a video where he's basically saying Nancy Pelosi has to be looked into for insider trading.
I did have that video.
elijah schaffer
You're going to play it.
donald j trump
She became rich by having inside information.
She made a fortune with her husband, and I think that's disgraceful.
So in that sense, I'd like it, but I'd have to really see the, I'd have, you know, I study these things very carefully, and this just happened.
So I'll take a look at it.
But conceptually, I like it.
And what I do think is Nancy Pelosi should be investigated because she has the highest return of anybody practically in the history of Wall Street, save a few.
And how did that happen?
It happened by she knows exactly what's going to happen, what's going to be announced.
You buy stock, and then the stock goes up after the announcement's made.
And she ought to be investigated.
You know, Nancy Pelosi.
elijah schaffer
All right.
So there's that.
But something else important happened.
If you can take that off the screen here that I thought was really important.
So insider trading and stuff, you know, I mean, that's like unfortunate.
But I don't know if anybody saw something else that happened.
This actually was what I wanted to talk about.
unidentified
Wow.
I can't believe that happened.
Hold on, hold on.
You have to, can you leave it off for a little bit?
Okay, that's cool.
donald j trump
I've got to look at special.
unidentified
I'm greasy right now, too, though.
You do actually have more hair than I thought you would.
Do I?
Can I have the Pepto Bees mold?
Why?
I have a sudden stomachache.
Hello, everybody.
Welcome back to the podcast.
elijah schaffer
Anyways, that had nothing to do with anything.
That was just like a really weird moment.
Like, I'm like so uninterested in politics.
I'm like, I'm so black pilly said I'm top-down politics.
And I'm like, I was just thinking about it.
michael hennessey
Here's what's in the news today.
Let me put it together for you.
Okay.
But have you seen him without his beanie?
elijah schaffer
That's true.
michael hennessey
No little hat under it either.
What everybody thought.
elijah schaffer
I know.
It's also rough.
Shave it off.
Tim, shave it off.
What are you doing, brother?
Shave it off.
I can still recover.
I'm still recovering my hairline.
I'm working on it right now.
It's like, at a certain point, you got to let it go, buddy.
michael hennessey
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
You got to let it go.
Do you have a little thinning hair or whatever?
You know, you're getting older.
Okay, it happens.
You know, your hair thins.
It's true.
But once you get there, Mike, I don't know.
Consensus, that was pretty rough.
michael mendoza
On, yeah, no, no, Tim should definitely take it off.
I don't know why he's going for the monk.
What's the guy from Seinfeld?
elijah schaffer
George Costanza.
michael mendoza
George Costanza.
Look.
Yeah.
Just give it up.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I don't know what it is either.
Anyways, all right.
If any of you guys want to talk about some of the other stuff we're going to talk about, we're going to do the rest of it on locals only.
You go to ElijahSchaefer.locals.com if you'd like to be there.
I do appreciate you guys coming around and being here.
Don't forget on Friday, we have the actual one-on-one talking about the whole story of what's going on and what happened, why he started this, what his background was.
It's really damn good.
And you're going to have to watch on Friday at 7.
Make sure you tune in for that to hear it.
We have a couple super chats, just two today.
It's like a slow day in general on the news.
I know this isn't really a news topic.
The real reason why we had my boy out here was for the episode that's going to be on Friday.
I mean, we'll enjoy you being on the show too, but it's like, you know, I want to hear your story, get it out there, and get you to get your side of things.
Toasty coconut send $10 for some air horns there and some applause.
He said, ask him if me and my one fourth Korean daughter can move out there.
All here, her family is country.
eric orwoll
Again, it's a case-by-case thing.
We would just have to look at the whole situation.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, someone said, Bloodshot 567 said, best conversation yesterday on locals.
We won't even repeat that on here, what we were talking about.
That was some wild.
So you weren't in here.
michael hennessey
No, I missed that one.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, we were basically just talking about, you know, why some guys think eating a girl's ass is wrong.
And then also why some think that's okay and like whether that's sodomy and like, you know, we're having a discussion on, you know, what, like, what's what's acceptable and not.
And it was a very interesting conversation.
michael hennessey
I'm sure Brayden loved it.
elijah schaffer
He really did.
He really did.
It's the paywall stuff.
So we had a guys talk about, you know, whether or not what's okay in marriage, basically.
What can you do?
What can't you do?
And I thought that was really fascinating.
And it looked like everyone was split.
So.
And I was like, is this even okay to talk about?
And everyone's like, please continue.
So apparently you guys are very weird people and I respect the hell out of you for that.
But we're going to avoid that with the family man right here.
But anyways, if you want to, we already said where you can find and follow him.
Snowflake, if people want to find and follow you, where can they find and follow you?
michael hennessey
You can find me at Snowflake underscore news.
I'm on Instagram as well as X. I'd love for you to come check it out.
elijah schaffer
And Mendoza.
michael hennessey
Yep.
michael mendoza
Follow me at Mike Mendoza JPG on Twitter and Instagram.
Yeah, go ahead and follow me there.
I'll be there.
elijah schaffer
Yes.
And to the rest of you guys watching, again, one more time.
Arval, where can they find and follow you?
eric orwoll
Sure.
If you're interested in Return to the Land, go to returntotheland.org on X. I'm at Arvol, A-A-R-V-O-L-L underscore.
And you can find me on YouTube.
Search Arville.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
We're going to head over right now.
We'll see you over at ElijahSchaefer.locals.com.
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