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Well, it turns out that the Iran war was just decided in terms of when it's going to start.
Trump says within two weeks, we will be deciding whether or not we will be entering World War III.
Nobody's more excited than Mark Levin, who was somewhat, someone could say erect in his pants, all full three inches as he got excited, realizing Americans might die for Israel.
Hell yeah, this is a great time to be alive.
Man, I wish I worked at Fox News or Blaze TV right now so I could feel the tension in the room.
No, I'm just kidding.
He doesn't work in any of those studios.
He's, I think, in like Virginia or something in his studio, protected, sheltered with millions of dollars, like everybody else who wants this war.
On top of that, it turns out that Americans aren't so excited.
If you see right here, ABC News reported that there is now protests going on inside of the country as hundreds gather in New York City to protest against U.S. involvement in the Iran-Israel conflict.
Except, let me tell you something, you stupid pleb, you idiot, you neocon Muslim Marxist.
We're going to go to war with Iran, damn it, whether you like it or not.
And if you're not wanting to go to war, that's because you love Iran.
It's because you're a Muslim lover.
You're a goat effer.
You love Allah and you believe in young children should get married, I think, or something.
I don't know what they're saying now.
It's a lot of things.
It's hard to keep up with, but that's what's going on.
Additionally, we're also finding out that Ted Cruz is still seething after losing to Tucker Carlson.
As one of our guests tonight said, in order to win or get back at Tucker, he started sharing pop culture memes, which is an attestament to the IQ and maturity of his own audience.
So that's pretty cool.
On top of that, lastly, we have some new developments.
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Heck yeah, man.
I'm very, very excited here.
We have a little snippet from President Donald Trump, who's weighing in on what's going on.
Listen to this.
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I had an issue here in Southern Nevada: availability of land.
We're going to have yeah, as I mentioned on the last show, it's like I feel like I don't know what's going on with Trump.
When we say we're going to bomb Tehran, he's like, by the way, guys, I know you guys have all been talking behind the scenes about this land release plans.
We got to make sure we're building more homes.
Never heard about this discussion until today, but we got to talk about it.
Joining me today in the studio, welcome back for the multiple time this week.
One of our contributors here today, working with us at Rift TV.
Well, yeah, I mean, if you're going to quote theology, you should probably at least know what the verse says and where you can find it.
He was quoting Genesis chapter 12, where it's actually talking about Abraham.
And it says that all who bless your descendants, you know, will be blessed, and all who curse them will be cursed.
But if you fast forward to Galatians, St. Paul actually interprets this verse for us, and he explicitly says the inheritors of Abraham, the seed of Abraham, singular, is Christ.
And so if you reject Christ, according to St. Paul, you are not a descendant of Abraham.
So therefore, the verse that he didn't even know where it's found is Genesis 12.
It's not even talking about what he said he was talking about.
Shoot, I mean, last time I talked to Senator Ted Cruz, he was telling me he was getting treated for a scripture called Syphilis 69.
And unfortunately, that was on when he left Texas during COVID, you know, to go to Cancun for the food.
You know what I mean?
That's what they do.
That's what these congressmen do.
It's true.
Jokes aside, I do know what the scriptures are called, by the way.
And I know, as anybody would say, that we're all the same, Muslims, Christians, Jews, and that's why we need to send more money to Israel.
Speaking of that, while we're in the middle of transferring our funds, my guest today, I think you've been on my previous podcast before, but you're here for the first time.
I don't know if we actually have any graphics here for that, but we're going to do our War Watch, which is just whenever we have these ongoing segments, right?
We ended the Riot Watch, War Watch, just things that are going on.
And you know, damn it, I feel like it's not America unless we're watching riots, unless we're following wars in Israel.
And it's almost like you could sort of remind yourself today, you could be in 2020, 2012, 2011, 1995.
It really doesn't matter what decade you want to pick or choose from what year.
It's kind of the same things going on from Rodney King, you know, to BLM to Trayvon Martin to, you know, whatever.
And also Netanyahu talking about nukes in Iran.
It's the same thing every day.
Let's talk about accountability here and the insidious nature of X, which is like the cesspool of what's going on here.
Today, some developments.
Israel was bombed.
Rockets actually rained down on Israel.
They're actually ballistic missiles, from my understanding.
Apparently, the Iron Dome can't intercept.
Can I ask you guys this question?
So just like October 7th, we know that they let these paragliders come.
And we understand that.
We also know that it was after their own report from the IDF.
We saw that the Apache helicopters were actually what caused the massive destruction.
They killed in the kibbutz a lot of their own people, including those homes that were blown up with their own tanks that blew up the homes.
Yes, Hamas killed a lot of people.
Yes, Hamas did murder a lot of Jews that day.
That is not up for debate, but they didn't come over with the weaponry to cause that kind of incendiary mass destruction.
It's not the first time in history that governments have killed their own people.
9-11.
I'm just kidding.
Okay.
But it is interesting to me that I want to know: is the Iron Dome really this bad that they can't intercept these rockets?
Are these just too advanced of rockets that they underestimated the kind of firepower that Iran had?
Or why the hell?
Are they just they want a war?
They're trying to get international opinion on their side.
Why would these rockets be hitting at such a high velocity and such extreme force and accuracy from their information and data centers to their hospitals?
How are these getting in the middle of Tel Aviv and Beersheba?
Well, I'm no expert on military warfare tactics and techniques, et cetera, but I would say that there is the possibility that you can have a gambit where you allow certain things to happen to then perhaps get the U.S. involved.
I think that if that's happening, if they're allowing some of these to get through or they're not fully exercising Iron Dome capabilities, it would be so that it looks like you're not helping us.
Yeah, I don't know if you have any opinion on this.
I know no one's like, except for you, and I know that you are an expert in ICBM, intercontinental ballistic technology, as they call it.
But I mean, like, you know, I happen to believe from a clip that I saw, I don't think we have it in here, but I watched NPR film these people, these Jewish people in Tel Aviv in front of a blown-up apartment complex, asking them, how do you feel about rockets raining down in your city?
Because there's still a family missing.
People have died in your community.
And the guy literally says, you guys can look this up.
He's like, you know, we've been waiting for this war for 30 years and, you know, we're willing to accept that, you know, if this is the kind of thing that has to happen in order for us to finally take down the regime, like we'll basically accept ourselves as collateral damage.
That's actually insane brainwashing, in my opinion.
But it is further evidence that I'm like, maybe they are letting this happen.
Maybe the people, everyone's in on it.
Like, hey, we're going to, they all kind of know you've got to let the missiles rain to justify dropping an atomic weapon on a Ford.
I mean, they've been cheering on this war for so long.
And I think you played the montage yesterday on the show where Netanyahu had been talking about this for years, years.
It's like they want it to happen.
October 7th, I'm actually surprised more didn't happen after that.
I think the only reason it didn't actually was probably because Biden and the whole Biden administration wanted to appease their more far-left base, which of course is not in favor of a war with Iran.
And then, of course, there's people on the distant right, like we are here where we're not in favor of a war either.
But obviously, there's a lot of MAGA boomers who want to who are okay with seeing it happen.
They're okay with being dragged into this.
And I honestly don't really think they realize how bad it would be and the consequences of a war with Iran.
And so they're kind of just going along with it because they're told, oh, well, for so long, they were told it's not a big deal or it's not a big issue, but it is.
And not only is it not, is it a big issue, but it's something that Jews in Israel really want.
They want this war.
And Netanyahu does, and Jews in Israel also support this.
They see it as their holy obligation almost, and America has to be swept into it too.
More Americans are moving to Israel right now during the war.
More Jews have done Aliyah and gone back, which shows that, yeah, this war hasn't stopped them.
If you follow Jew news on TikTok and they go around and it's like funny because they'll be like, so where are you from?
Well, I'm from Philadelphia, but I just didn't Aliyah and I'm back here.
I'm back home.
And I always think it's funny.
It's like those guys who have been here for thousands of years, they're the invaders, but I'm from Philadelphia and this is my home.
We should blow you up.
I mean, everyone knows where I stand on this.
I don't know.
You're Orthodox.
You know, then you're around here.
You have your own opinion.
But I do think that governments like 9-11, whether it's invited, allowed, whether they did it themselves, right?
I mean, for all we know, some of this technology, the United States and Israel may have facilitated or allowed countries to sell to Iran in order for them to achieve what they wanted.
And like planning the pagers or the swarm armies of the drones, like I'm just going to say, I know the United States has weapons that can take down missiles like this.
And they could have released it to Israel if they wanted to.
And if they didn't, there's got to be, it's got to be stoking a war.
Maybe you have a different opinion, but I do believe it's intentional.
I actually have a point on, you brought up sort of the political divide that's happening here.
I don't know if you guys have kind of felt this on X these last couple of days, but I find this internal conflict when I'm liking tweets from Bernie Sanders and AOC who are agreeing with like Thomas Massey, right?
Like I just find this political divide that's happening both on the right and the left is kind of wild.
It's something that a lot of us didn't really see coming, where like this issue of Israel and this issue of their agenda is literally splitting both parties like down the middle.
And so it's kind of an internal conflict that I've experienced, like when I when I'm liking tweets from Bernie Sanders and then I'm criticizing Ted Cruz online.
It's not something I would have seen.
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When you say Orthodox, so you're saying Orthodox Jew because that's what Bernie wants from you.
This is kind of like the idiocy of what's going on here.
I am dumbfounded.
Like, I got to say this.
I am not one of the people.
Like, I do see people, particularly like Groipers or people that would be more considered like fundamental right that, like, are like, God bless Iran when they see the bombs going off in Tel Aviv.
That's not all of them.
There's just some of them, right?
You see people saying that.
And I know a lot of it's just tongue-in-cheek.
Like, they're just, you know, they're shit talking because they don't like Israel.
But deep down inside, they make rape jokes and like, you know, they're about killing women and stuff.
Well, also, people forget too that the 1979 coup in Iran was aided by Western intelligence, just like the Ayatollah Khashoggi, who is a predecessor to Khomeini.
Like, he came in with British intelligence and CIA support because they saw that the Shah wasn't going to be a success.
He was a failure.
He was a flop.
He was the original CIA puppet in Operation Ajax when they overthrew Mosaddegh, which was the first color revolution that we know of.
Then they put in, then they made friends with and aided the original Ayatollah Khashogani, who was British intelligence himself, or connected to British intelligence.
He was the guy who started, even though he was Shia, he started the Muslim Brotherhood chapter in Iran, the Fayadan.
And that didn't work, at least at that time, with the Shah.
So then British intelligence and the CIA went back to him and were like, hey, we want you now to be our dude.
We'll make some deals with you.
And so there's always been a kind of a back channel.
This actually came out in the BBC a couple of years ago that there was this continual back channel.
Even when the ITOL was calling the U.S. the great Satan, there was this back channel with Reagan and the State Department to make deals in the background.
For example, oil was a big, a big thing.
So a lot of times we see this stuff in the public, but there's always been these backdoor deals and hence why the Democrats, for example, armed Iran with billions of dollars before Trump came in.
I mean, as you know, like if you go back to Likud's strategy in terms of Oded Yannan plan in 1982, a lot of what was in the clean break strategy of Netanyahu was just mirrored from the earlier Oded Yunnan plan, which is a greater Israel project.
So this has been a plan since the late 70s, early 80s.
Ostrovsky talks about in his By Way of Deception book, too.
So they wanted, they have strategic plans for each of the surrounding areas of Israel, Lebanon, Syria, et cetera.
This gets into why they supported radical Islam in some places like Syria, as well as places like to a degree, Lebanon at times, but they also made alliances with the phalangeists who were the right-wing Christian militias.
Anyway, point being is that they've had different strategies for different areas around them, but that does include at times funding and aiding Hamas to be a counterbalance to the PLO.
So the West has a tendency and a strategy to oftentimes play both sides of conflicts.
And I think in this situation, it's definitely more heavily on the Israeli side, but there's still even support for Iran as well, especially from weapons contractors, stuff like that.
The strategies are different, but the goal is the same, which is why you wonder why ISIS apologizes to Israel when they attack them.
But ISIS will actually behead Christians.
And then why does no one defend the Christians?
Well, because Israel and ISIS hate the Christians.
So there's sort of this unilateral, you know, similar hatred towards Christianity, but also, you know, realizing how is there a radical Islamic group that topples Bashar al-Assad in Syria, and then suddenly they want to join the UN and they're dealing with President Trump and they're putting up signs, thank you, Donald Trump.
The CFR back in 2012 had an article on their page.
You can still find on Wayback.
They've scrubbed up, you can find the way back, where they were calling for al-Qaeda in Syria to topple Assad.
So they've been talking about this for a long time, but the CFR is just reflecting what the Oded Yunnan plan and the clean break strategy of Netanyahu had said in 1996.
Yeah, well, look, okay, so that's kind of the, this is kind of my point, though.
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I wanted to go to Ben here.
I kind of get your opinion.
This is kind of crazy, even from an Orthodox view.
I am so freaking dumbfounded at this recent development where actually this is Jay Dyric, if you can go to this, tuned in.
Ted Cruz shared this response, right, to not knowing the population of Iran.
And he shared this meme, what is the population of the Death Star to Luke Skywalker, who, by the way, kissed his sister.
But based?
Okay, no, but I don't know.
It's an Arkansas thing.
But no, he shared this, and everyone was, you know, using this.
You can make up what you want from it.
I had already signed on this going, you know, we talked about this yesterday.
We used to laugh when students were asked tough questions by Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk.
And then when asked where communism worked, they said in Star Trek, that was a real thing.
And we thought that was so funny.
Everyone slopped it up.
They used pop culture references to try to adjust their understanding of the world.
But when Ted Cruz does it, who's gotten fatter every year, it's very interesting.
Now, Jay Dyer jumped in and said Ted Cruz is to appeal to his evangelical boomer audience using children's sci-fi because that's the maturity level of evangelical boomers to support the boomers, even take the boomer out of that myself.
I don't know who's more responsible for the support of what's going on here.
As Tucker said it, you know, Fox exists to take advantage of elderly, you know, patriotic elderly people.
What is, why is it that the evangelical church seems to fall for everything for feminism, for homosexuality, for, you know, this Zionism?
Like, we're not talking about boomers.
I know you're saying that, but it's like, I see evangelical guys my age, that's like most pastors are like 28 to 35, and they're wearing their skinny jeans.
You know, you can see their bulge.
My voice is like, why can you see a pastor's bulge?
It's so inappropriate.
You see their bulge.
They're wearing some big t-shirt and a chain.
They're like, you know, guys, we're going to send, I went to a church that did this.
Well, I mean, I think at this point, like, we all know about the Rothschilds funding the Schofield Bible and how this has impacted, you know, modern evangelicalism through dispensationalism and the geopolitical support of the modern nation state of Israel.
I mean, it's a classic word concept fallacy, obviously, to associate a modern nation state with a biblical nation, which Ted Cruz was actually ridiculing Tucker yesterday on X for saying, oh, Tucker believes that when it says Israel in the Bible, it's not talking about Israel.
And it's like, no, Tucker believes that when it says Israel in the Bible, it's talking about a Hebrew nation in the Old Testament and not a nation state that was invented in 1948.
So we actually see in Apostolic Christianity, Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy and Oriental Orthodoxy, like there, you just don't see like this infiltration of dispensationalism.
We completely reject that theology.
And so as a result, we're able to stand against sort of these agendas, these geopolitical agendas where they're leveraging our religion.
They're leveraging our religion for a geopolitical agenda.
So Americans perhaps are not that happy about this.
They're actually protesting.
You see Randy Fine, you see Mark Levin.
They're all out in full swing.
Before we talk about that, though, I do want to remind you guys something very important.
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You castrate them.
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That's what nations used to do when they conquered.
Now, unfortunately, our balls are not being removed.
There's a lady in the room, so I'll be somewhat nice.
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There's a war against our testosterone, and it's remarkably low.
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Trump's saying tonight that the U.S. may or may not join Israel in attacking Iran.
The president's saying, quote, I'd like to make a final decision one second before.
Iran warned that if the United States does get involved, it will retaliate, quote, wherever we find targets.
And tonight, in Manhattan, hundreds of people gathered in Midtown to protest this conflict.
I went to Snews reporter, Stefan Kim, was there.
On the steps of the New York Public Library, where all ideas are welcome, there was disagreement.
A lot of it.
Hundreds who denounced war on Iran clashed with a handful of pro-Israeli counter-protesters.
I'm in touch personally again, and my organization represents Iranian Americans who are watching all their family and friends in Tehran be evacuated, who are seeing car bombs go off in Tehran, who are seeing hospitals blown up, media buildings blown up, gas stations.
This is much, much broader of an attack than simply targeted strikes on the nuclear program.
This, as sources tell ABC News, President Trump is getting comfortable with the idea of taking out Iran's nuclear facility, the Fordo fuel enrichment plant.
It would not be just one strike on the facility, it would be several.
The source adds, there is now a movement to get ready for this.
The president's position on the potential attack comes as the Israelis discovered they did not take out all air defenses in Iran as they had previously thought, adding to concern.
Israel has been lobbying for more support because only the U.S. has a 30,000-pound bunker buster capable of reaching Iran's deeply buried nuclear site.
No, and I think that they have every intention of escalating this conflict.
I think what it is is they, I said this yesterday, but they really what the administration is trying to figure out is how they can break the news to the American people, if you will.
Because for so long, Trump kind of prided himself on this idea that he is just an anti-war president.
And he technically isn't.
He's a peace through strength president, which is different than being someone who's an isolationist or somebody who just doesn't want to get involved in war.
And so because of that, I think people misinterpreted that as, oh, that means we're not going to get involved in any wars.
That's not really true.
And in fact, we talked about the funding that he received on the show already from, you know, Miriam Andelson and several other prominent Jews who want to see him take the Zionist position.
So it's now a matter of how will they go about breaking the news to the American people.
And what Christians need to understand in this country is that this war would not benefit you in any way.
And I want to go back to that.
I think you brought it up, Elijah, earlier, where it's that nobody on either side of this conflict is on the side of Christians.
And somehow, somehow, Christians are the ones that have to save the day at the end.
We're the ones that have to step in and take a side.
And of course, that side being pushed upon us is the side of Israel.
But in no way do Christians benefit from this war.
And that's the most concerning part because we're the ones who kind of have to pay the price, if you will.
Yeah, I don't know if you agree with that, but I feel like the idea this is escalating, it makes me wonder who do our politicians serve?
And I want to ask you, if you're watching this right now, if you're watching on Rumble, if you're one of the 2,000 people there or a few hundred are watching on our new YouTube channel, make sure you like the video, you subscribe.
And I want to know in the chat, one's in the chat if you agree with me, two's in the chat if you think I'm wrong.
I'm going to go to Ben here.
But what I have seen exemplified is that our politicians, and including Trump, who I voted for three times and I believe won three times in the election, seem to be more concerned with how Jewish people are treated, with how Israel is treated and what goes on in that country than they are about Americans, right?
So they care more about Israelis and Americans.
They care more about Jewish people than Christians.
They care more about the nation of Israel than the nation of America itself.
And they care more about using our money to protect their interests rather than ours, even at the expense of ours.
And it's very clear in our country that our nation does not serve the God of the Bible, does not serve Jesus Christ, that our nation is serving the donors of AIPAC.
They are serving the donors of the Edelsons.
And I don't believe it's all demonic, but I do believe that to mock and to deride and to spit in the face of a Protestant nation that once was known for its work ethic, that was known for fighting for that independence to be able to worship God.
And we drove ourselves to excellence.
Let me ask you this, and I'm going to go to you on here.
If you're right, Ted Cruz, that those who bless Israel, that God will bless them, then ask yourself why when we started blessing the current nation state of Israel in 1949, as Joel Webbin said today, why did we get abortion?
Why did we get feminism?
Why did we not, why did we get AIDS if it actually exists?
Why did we get homosexuality?
Why did we get endless wars and cold wars that we couldn't win?
Why in the world, if we are so blessed, are our streets full of trash?
Our cities are unsafe to walk in.
Our marriages are falling apart.
Our divorce is at no fault.
This does not sound like a blessing.
It feels like a curse and a burden.
You tell me what's happened.
If that's a blessing, then damn it, you're more than confused and I cannot help you.
But I do feel like there's very, there's something wrong in our country, something very yawth.
I don't know who we're serving, but it doesn't feel like we're serving God.
And then also Jay Dyer, you got a lot of people on YouTube as well.
Shout out to you guys.
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One thing that this show does do, they ask, am I a Christian?
And I think we like to be honest here.
I was a devout Christian in my life at one point.
I got disillusioned when I fell into some patterns of sin and the evangelical church could not help me.
And I'm not this bitter guy who's like, the church wronged me.
It was like, no matter where I went, I got a bad answer after a bad answer.
And the advice they gave me nearly ruined my entire life, actually.
And I realized if I had not listened to any of the advice of these people, I would be in a better place.
And then it was kind of like they just kind of were like, oh, well, you made a mistake.
So now you're in the bad set, the bad corner.
And now you can't ever do anything for God.
And it was like, this doesn't make any sense.
Like, you know, mind my language, but also fuck you guys.
Then I don't live like this.
I'm just going to go live on my own.
And then what happens?
You go live on your own.
You get destroyed.
You know, the devil just kind of like rakes you back in because a sheep without a shepherd gets lost very, very easily among wolves.
So I'm trying to find my way back home.
You know what I mean?
And so I'm trying to understand, but I don't know.
I've only known the Protestant, you know, evangelical package.
And so I just started attending a Catholic church about two months ago.
And it's a diocese that's just fantastic.
But for some reason, I still continually wonder if Orthodoxy is the correct way, just because I just, the veneration of Mary that we do is so weird when we bow to Mary and some weird stuff in the church, which I don't participate in.
So anyway, that's where it's at.
But you, as somebody who's a veteran Orthodox, I find it to be almost mysterious and quite commendable because I wouldn't call myself a man of God, you know, but I would say you would be, or at least someone like myself would respect that.
But as a man of God, like, what do you make of the fact that, you know, the evangelicals, the Protestants are saying that we are being blessed.
This is what blessing looks like.
And that's because we serve the nation state of Israel.
I feel like something's really off with this evangelical Christianity.
The disconnect is that for most evangelicals and Protestants, there's a radically deficient idea of what the church is.
And the church is a historical entity.
If you're divorced from the church as a historical entity, you're going to default to making something like the nation-state of Israel your sort of proxy church.
So evangelicals treat that as if it's sort of like that's God's chosen people.
That's God's entity on earth.
No, no, no, no, it's the historic church that Matthew 21, 43 says is the kingdom of God that was taken from the Jews because they rejected the Messiah, given to a nation producing the fruits thereof, which is the largely Gentile church.
It began largely Jewish in the book of Acts, but it eventually becomes a historically largely Gentile entity.
And that's why so many places in the book of Psalms and the book of Isaiah, when it predicts the kingdom, when it predicts the church, it's a Catholicos, it's a Catholic entity.
And I'm an Orthodox Catholic Christian.
So that's why in the early centuries of the church, the nations began to convert and worship the God of Israel, Yahweh.
That's a fulfillment of all of these Psalms and all these places in Isaiah that predict the largely Gentile church.
So you can't divorce the church from history, but evangelicals are severed from the historic church.
So they become a kind of de facto worshiper of Israel as the church.
And like Luigi said, the foundation of Israel is the Rothschild family.
It's Edmund Rothschild.
It's people who wanted to help eventually, maybe not Edmund himself, but Heim Weizmann, Theodore Herzl, Moses Hess.
They were atheist socialists.
Some of them had religious ideas, but they wanted to set up a utopian socialist project in the Middle East.
It had nothing to do with God.
So why would God's nation be founded by, re-founded by utopian atheist socialists like Moses Hess?
It makes no sense.
Unless it's a geopolitical decision, which has nothing to do with necessarily, I mean, unless it's the end times or something like that.
Like that doesn't directly have anything to do with the promises in the Bible about cursings and blessings.
Because if you look at the book of Revelation in chapters two and three, when Jesus speaks to the churches in Asia Minor, he uses the language of cursing and blessing, which is a covenant language out of Deuteronomy and Leviticus that God spoke to Israel.
He said, if you blessing and cursing, right?
The very thing that Ted Cruz is citing in Genesis 12, right?
If you bless Israel, I'll bless you.
If you curse Israel, I'll curse you.
That's transferred over to the church in Revelation 2 and 3.
So I'm kind of like stripping my theology, what I know aside.
I'm like, what it feels like, it's like, okay, if we started blessing Israel in the 1940s, then we should be blessed.
And then someone's like, oh, you know, that means because we're supporting Israel, that's why we're cursed.
I'm going, what else started happening around that time?
We moved away from God.
We moved away from God.
We moved towards what?
The UN, this globalism, this lack of nationalism, lack of identity with God towards this, you know, to move back to Babylon.
So I don't know what it is, but to me, it seems like maybe it's not directly because we started supporting Israel, but it's like, like you said, we started supporting anything else except for God.
Your point about, well, blessing and cursing in terms of 1948 and what do we support.
I mean, think how silly this is.
So like Islam is one of the largest religions in the world, maybe the largest now, I forget, between Catholics, but if it's over a billion, so would we conclude then that Satan is growing and blessing Islam?
All the Islamic nations have the money and weapons that they have from Satan.
But wait a minute, we actually armed Iran in part.
So are we the Satan that's also arming Iran?
It's just arbitrary to say that all the curses that we have in America are because of supporting Israel or not supporting Israel.
I mean, we support the opposition as well at times.
Is it because like it feels like directly when we left God that we are being cursed?
And that's why I see the idea of bless those who like, I'll bless those who bless thee when our nation decided that, you know, I mean, the FBI is making Catholic priests and like Christian mothers at, you know, designating them as domestic terrorists.
Christian nationalism is now one of the greatest threats, according to the FBI.
To me, that's why I feel like we are collapsing.
And reminding you, we don't care about the Christians in Gaza.
You know, America doesn't care about the Christians anywhere.
Don't even talk about the Christians in Israel.
There's a bunch of Christian sites and Christians in Israel, and it's only about the Jews and the Jewish people.
To me, that's like kind of a spin in the face of God himself.
Yeah, I mean, the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church in the United States right now is engaged in a legal battle because our priests are no longer being protected through the sacrament of confession.
They're being forced by the state to disclose information they receive through confession.
I mean, you bring up the strong point about the Christian holy land.
I mean, the fact that we have in Israel, in Jerusalem, we have the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, which is right down the street, by the way, from the Western Whaling Wall.
And what I find shocking is that all these American politicians who call themselves Christians, we see pictures of them at the Western Whaling Wall.
We almost never see photos of them at visiting the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, which shows exactly where their priorities lie.
But I also want to point out, to your point about sort of like the theological implications here, too.
You know, I don't think the Protestant reformers intended this with Sola Scriptura, but what Sola Scriptura really allowed for was a hijacking of Christianity, which is what exactly what we've seen, particularly in the last, you know, 70-some years, is a hijacking of Christianity.
Because with Sola Scriptura, well, we can just interpret the Bible however you want to.
To Jay's point, we've divorced ourselves from the historical church, right?
The church that was founded by Jesus Christ and was present in every single century.
As Orthodox Christians, we can point to a random century and say that was the church right there.
Can an evangelical do that?
No.
Just like a Mormon, they think the church fell away for hundreds and hundreds of years.
They can't do that.
So when you divorce yourself from the historical church, it opens yourself up to be hijacked by geopolitical agendas, which is exactly what we've seen.
And to highlight that hypocrisy, it's like Ted Cruz will go on and talk to Tucker about the fact that it's fine if Israel spies on the U.S. and does espionage within the U.S., but then they cry all day long about China and Russia and espionage.
Yeah, it does it does feel because I don't want to spend too much more time on this, but it does feel like this interesting thing.
When Trump says something like this, this doesn't sound like people who are looking for God to lead them.
Listen.
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Regarding the ongoing situation in Iran, I know there has been a lot of speculation amongst all of you in the media regarding the president's decision-making and whether or not the United States will be directly involved.
In light of that news, I have a message directly from the president, and I quote.
Based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks.
I feel, I really do feel like that's a great sign that we're in a good position as a country because usually countries led by women like Germany with Angela Merkel.
She did a great job there.
Am I right, everybody?
Am I right?
Yeah, okay.
Well, that's a dumb joke.
But no, but I mean, I mean, moving on from this, I want to talk a little bit about this.
I want to get into some of the riots, get into what's going on here with the immigration stuff and developing.
I have watched Trump go back and forth and back and forth.
And you said when people will serve something.
What I have seen is this.
This is maybe a spiritual maturity side of me.
Is when I was falling away from the church, I started making like politics my God, right?
So, so I started, like I look back at some of the content that I was making.
I wasn't thinking through my worldview.
I was assumed that I knew what I knew and I just accepted everything that came with it.
So I made a famous video, did really well.
And when you're doing like 500,000 views on YouTube on a video, it's considered pretty successful.
And it was like, why Trump is the most pro-LGBT president?
And I went around and proved to everyone that he promoted homosexuality.
And I thought I did something, you know?
I was like, I did something.
Because not because, I mean, I always thought it was a little cringe, gay shit, but like, you know, that was one of the talking points was he was homophobic.
So I needed to defend Trump against the negative talking point.
I didn't support it, but that's ironic, right?
So I don't support something.
And instead of getting mad at being like, you know, I'm mad Trump doesn't support this.
I had to make content that it was good that he supported it.
And that is because I put over ethics and morals and worldview, my tribalism and cultism to a politician, which I believe to be a sin and incorrect, but it's more of ignorance, not intentionality.
I wasn't doing it on purpose.
At the time, I just, I thought I was doing good.
I thought I was helping my country and my people.
And now I realize it was moronic.
I feel like that's a lot of people still with Trump.
And when you get out of that side of things, you know, because I'm not like, you know, Glenn Beck or Mark Levin or like, I was never Trumper, but I'm like, okay, there is an actual cult around this guy.
And you see Sean Farash and you see Laura Loomer and you see these people who all share similar heritage, you know, really, really just kind of like, like I told the truth at the riot, which we'll talk about in a moment.
I just, all I stated was that the U.S. Marine Corps had made contact with U.S. citizens.
That's all I stated, which is a big, which is a big deal.
Like the military is physically making contact with citizens.
That's a big development.
You know, he's accusing me of like working for MSNBC or whatever and trying to undermine Trump because I reported the truth about what's happening.
I'm looking at the MAGA group from the outside now and going, these people are fucking retarded.
And it's not that I don't support Trump, but even a friend of mine goes, why are you counter signaling Trump?
Good friend, smart guy, smarter than me.
And he's one of my favorite people.
So I'm not shit talking to him.
I'm going, because he's wrong here on this issue.
And it's like, yeah, but didn't you vote for him?
We got to support him.
And I go, dude, I'm over that.
We're in the problems of our country because everybody is fighting for morality while not changing their actions in their own lives to live to the standard of God's called them to.
And two, because they're tribal and they're justifying their morality towards their commitment towards a group and not God.
And it's like, I don't want to fall into that, but it's hard because I built my whole audience being loyal to MAGA.
And now they're all like, oh, you're changing.
You're a lip tard.
Tim Poole on the show called me a communist and a socialist.
Yeah, well, I kind of experienced something similar because I remember starting to question, really seriously question Trump during the Operation Warp Speed situation.
I was like, okay, well, what's going on here?
People kept twisting themselves into pretzels trying to justify what he was doing.
Oh, well, he didn't know he was misled by globalists.
At what point do you just say, well, no, you know, we have to hold him accountable for this.
He is the president of the United States.
I feel like there's a breaking point or there was a breaking point recently with a lot of the MAGA base, people like you, people like me, probably most of us here.
Like, I think we probably experienced that, along with a lot of people on the right.
And I think part of it was the vaccine.
I think another part of it was seeing him start to sell out to certain donors that he promised to not sell out to.
And then, of course, that also was in line with his support of things that he said he wasn't going to support, like the war and or war in general.
And I think really like at first, the argument that people came up with was, well, the media is so unfair to him.
So at the very least, we can be on his side.
That's what a lot of boomers would tell me when I, whenever I would criticize something he would do.
But, you know, if he's not going to be loyal to us, to his base, because he hasn't been with a lot of the promises he's made, why should we be loyal to him?
Well, and also like he talked a lot about the forgotten man in 2016.
And this is a really big issue because what did he mean by that?
Well, he meant white Christians.
He meant white people predominantly Christians.
And the reality is in his, in the most recent campaign, in the 2024 campaign, he didn't really stay true to that promise at all.
There was a lot of, you know, kowtowing to minorities.
It was a lot.
And even during his first term, the talking points on the right were always, well, we have to focus on the black unemployment rate and how low it is and the Hispanic unemployment rate and how low it is.
He never really stayed true to helping the people that he claimed he was going to help.
He keeps talking about minorities.
He keeps talking about Jews.
He keeps talking about everybody else.
What does that tell you?
And I think a lot of these people in the MAGA base need to sort of divorce themselves from this idea that he is still the guy that they voted for in 2016 and start saying, you know, actually, he's not really fighting for the forgotten person, the forgotten Americans anymore.
And I think there were a lot of signs along the way, but some people just, they still think of him as that guy.
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All right.
So back to what we were talking about here.
I do want to know.
I really do want to know this.
Is what we're experiencing right now with people wanting to fight this war and get involved in this war and fighting for – is this purely a political issue of like neocons versus isolationists, as Mark Levin said?
Or is it what I'm feeling that there's a lot of – it's about spiritual sickness in our country that is a lack of discernment, a lack of understanding that we are blinded by politics, by these things, and that maybe some people like Tucker, like Charlie.
some of it may be their spiritual intuition going, hey, you know, this is not what's good for us.
We need to separate good from tribalism, Good from loyalty to people, and be loyal to God and to his people and, you know, try to do what's in their best interest.
And I sense that there is a division going like that, even myself, where I'm like, it feels demonic, feels satanic that people are trying to get us in this war.
It feels sick to my stomach that people want Americans to die at all for this cause.
To answer your question as far as the spiritual sickness, I mean, I think, you know, politics in many ways is going to be downstream, right, from spiritual health.
Right.
And so for a nation that has rejected the God that they founded themselves on, right, you can start to understand why we're starting to see those downstream effects in the geopolitical realm.
And so, you know, for us as Orthodox Christians, you know, we truly believe that, you know, the political change, it has to happen in the hearts of the people, right?
And to Jay's point here with Tucker, all Tucker is doing is being a faithful Christian.
I love what he did there when he asked Ted Cruz about the passage in the Bible.
He's like, I'm a Christian.
Tell me, teach me what the Bible says because you just quoted it.
So teach it to me.
Help me understand it as a Christian.
What am I supposed to believe as a Christian about Israel?
And of course, Ted Cruz couldn't answer that question.
And I want to try to transition topics here because this is our war watch.
It's a thing I'm passionate about, guys.
And I want you to know, if you're new here watching, like I always mentioned, make sure that you give a follow, but also know that one of the main reasons why I feel like God has given us a gift here with this, with this Project Rift, if you don't understand what it is, is that I come from Con Inc.
I've worked extensively for years at Blaze.
I've worked with Fox.
I've made a movie with Fox before as a producer.
I was in it.
You know, done Daily Wire, all this stuff.
And there's one thing that I always noticed is that, you know, they give you a lot of money.
And damn it, it was fun.
But there's things you can't say, right?
Now, of course, we're on YouTube and stuff.
There's things that we may have to be smart how we talk about them.
We may have to be intelligent the way that we word ourselves.
That's called being a mature person.
It's called being an adult and understanding the times that you're in.
There's nothing wrong about that.
But, you know, I don't want to live in a world where we're saying unaliving yourself.
You know, I hate that, right?
I want to live in a world where we say some people, you know what I mean?
Like, it's like, can't we just be honest?
And we want to be, but what I realize is that a lot of people that are honest get put on an island and they don't take themselves seriously.
And the one thing that the other people have is they have good production quality.
They have good guests.
They have, they fly people out.
They do all the fun stuff and they take themselves seriously.
So this was, hey, let's take the ideas, the right-wing ideas that we know and love, the ones that God wants us to know, the things that are good for our nation, that the conservative establishment won't touch, the guests that they don't like to have on, or then they intentionally put them on a show where they can't say a lot, or they give them only a five-minute snippet on Fox and you have nothing to say.
We want to be the opposite.
And so we will have guests like RFH on.
Not your guys' favorite, I know.
But we also have Jay Dyer on, which, of course, everyone loves.
But Ed Ben too, don't we give a little air horn for Ratfem Hitler?
I don't know.
She's a feminist that we had on the last week, and some of the guys were just pissed off as hell.
But I was going to say, so it's really cool that we can talk about this stuff.
And we were back in the riots.
And I said, you know, people said Rift wasn't going to be successful.
Went back on the field one time for the riots.
And we already got a licensing deal with Fox News again.
Like, I don't know how it's working out, but it's because you guys are supporting.
So I just want to remind you, thank you.
I know this is going to go places.
Maybe not up, but it'll go somewhere.
So thank you very much for watching.
I want to transition here for a moment.
This is quite interesting.
People are saying, you know, today, Iran said on the news, this is my transition, that allies have asked them if there's a strike in Iran, if they're okay to join the war.
And Iran said that we have allies who are willing to strike.
Pakistan said that they would nuke Israel.
And today, Russia actually tuned in for the first time that I've heard of and said, don't even think about Iran.
Moscow is fuming over Israel's strikes in Iran's nuclear sites, especially Bushir, where hundreds of Russian workers are still stationed.
Russia's foreign ministry didn't hold back saying absolutely unacceptable and extremely dangerous.
Maria Zara Zakharova warned we would likely to especially warn Washington against military intervention.
If the U.S. jumps in, things could go from bad to nuclear fallout fast.
So I just want to remind people as we transition that like this is serious.
And as much as we know that it wasn't really a shot of some guy that started World War I, that's what they told us.
And they will tell us this is what started World War III.
And I'm not an alarmist, but if they want it, they will get it.
And I'm saying that, you know, a regional war could turn into something very, very, very serious.
So going on to the other, let's transition here to immigration.
I think this is very important here.
I want to talk about immigration from a political standpoint and a religious standpoint because God wants us to accept God wants us to accept the immigrant.
You know what I mean?
Because Jesus said when he remember when Jesus visited the Statue of Liberty and inscribed on there with his finger, he like they were trying to stone the immigrant and he went and then they looked and it said, give us your heavy laden.
Well, first of all, these are right-wing, long-wing workers.
I don't think the program is a very important work.
Second of all, I just answered yours, Congressman's addresses.
But because China showed it, this doesn't mean we ignore it.
I mean, it's illegal to hire going any higher and they will have.
But like I just talked about a few minutes ago, worksite enforcement worksite enforcement operations just like that in our job.
We're going to basically my priority, right?
For those who have a criminal nexus of trafficking, of forced labor, of tax fraud or tax eviction, I mean, we will concentrate on work sites on prioritized because anything we let's just go find with foreign aliens.
We'll prioritize gold drug and criminal nexus.
unidentified
One quick follow-up.
On Thursday, ICE told Navians to hold off on investigations of farms in hotels, absent some other sort of criminality.
Okay, let's start with the political aspect of this.
Trump was really stupid when he re-enagged and flipped.
And he was like, oh, by the way, my partners in big ag and hospitality really don't like the fact how this is hurting their business.
And so we're not going to really enforce illegal immigration in the agriculture and hotel business.
Excuse me, Mr. Trump.
I like talking to an American when I'm booking into a hotel.
I actually almost got kicked out of a hotel for calling the person a DEI hire and illegal one time when I was.
They were.
They couldn't get me a booking and I don't know why I did that.
Was I drunk?
Perhaps allegedly, allegedly.
But were they illegal?
Yes, allegedly.
Um, my point is, is that yes, it's about time we clean up the business.
You know, if hotels have to cost a little bit more money, things have to, you know, actually be cost what they they do in order to have a functioning society.
Okay, we might have to stay home or we'll not be able to stay out as much.
You might have to downgrade the hotels you stay at.
It is what it is.
However, it seems like Miller, who apparently is one of the good Jews, came in and uh, he said that you know, we're not doing that, we can't do that.
Uh, the American people were had a huge outcry.
He flipped the script and now Tom Home and them are saying, you know, we're going back to business, we're doing this, we're doing works, workside enforcements, and we're going to go in and we have to do that.
I still don't think this is going to be enough, Jay.
I don't think it's going to be enough.
I don't, I don't think, I don't think we're going to get what, what we wanted, with these mass deportations.
It seems impossible.
They can't even decide on who to deport, or if we should deport everyone.
Couldn't ice, just go, wait outside of Home Depot and then, when all the I mean it would make sense well, they're just, they're already there, I know, i'm just going.
Actually, I mean, I think you know politics is compromised, unfortunately.
So there's probably a lot of pressure on Trump to try to compromise on these points because um, if he go if, if they do try to round up masses of people, that will be further feeding into the narrative of tyranny, police state, which is what they tried to get Trump to engage in With the riots in LA and other places, was, you know, it was a bait to try to get him to look like the dictator that they say that he is, which is all kind of ridiculous.
But I mean, there's no easy answer because it is the Calergy Plan.
If you read Kundal Kalergi himself, which I've read the book, I'm going to lecture through that very soon.
That's the Royal Society Plan that the elites accepted about 100 years ago.
And they decided that that would be the best way to reorganize all of Western civilization societies from Europe to the U.S. as well.
Yeah, but like, but explain what that means because a lot of it seems like we all know that the migrants are coming here because of climate change, right?
So the ice caps melted.
By the way, I remind you, an iceberg took down the Titanic.
Early life check berg.
You know what I mean?
Destructive forces, those bergs can be.
Anyway, my jokes are terrible.
But no, but obviously it tells that.
But you're saying, and we all know it is intentional.
Sydney, London, Paris are now less than 50% white.
But the weaponized why?
I think a lot of people never hear why don't they want white people to have a homeland?
And he spoke either to the Telegraph or The Guardian maybe 10 years ago about how they would utilize weaponized migration to completely change the demographics of Europe so that it could then be Islamicized.
And so that's by design.
And in fact, you had the Fabian Society talking about this back in the 1920s in the UK.
So people like Bertrand Russell, people like Alice Bailey, people who aren't necessarily Muslims, but they believe that they could utilize Islam as a chess piece to really change the makeup of the society so that it could then be transitioned into the future projections of technocracy and so forth.
Same idea with America.
It's a little more difficult to completely Islamicize it, but it is easier to utilize the populations that are directly below us through, you know, what was originally NAFTA and Free Trade was the secret plan for open borders to get people from down there up here.
That didn't really work, but now it's just after the Biden administration, it was just full-on open borders.
Remember Biden saying, you know, come up here.
If you're down there, come up here.
They even had programs incentivizing people in Latin and South America to come up here.
Well, and that's why, like, when people who are criticized for being white nationalists, they come after us and say, well, you know, you just, you're calling for genocide then for black and brown people.
And it's like, well, no, because the implication here that they're not, that they're missing is that this is an inorganic importation of blacks and browns.
So this is not like, you know, we have a few of them coming over and, you know, they can coexist with white people or if they do come here, they have to assimilate.
It's like, this is completely inorganic.
This should not be happening.
It would not have happened if it weren't for these intentional movements to get them here.
And, you know, you could, there's a lot of different, you know, theories behind why that is.
Of course, the Calergy Plan and there's other, you know, other forces at play.
I won't say exactly which group of, you know, which ethnic group is behind this, perhaps.
Yeah, there's also a sleight of hand here to, you know, we're taught that, you know, America is unique because it's, you know, quote unquote a melting pot, which another early life check on the one who came up with that term.
But there's a sleight of hand with this because, you know, I talk to friends who are Brits, and what's interesting is like they're told the exact same thing as we're told as Americans.
And it's like, okay, Brits unquestionably have a cultural heritage, right?
But they're being told the same things that we're being told about how America is this unique, it's ontologically unique in the sense that it's a melting pot.
Well, then why are the Brits being told that?
Because England certainly isn't that.
So it's just a sleight of hand that you start to see with the narratives.
And one of the reasons why I want to play this is because it's wild that they're using our money to fund this.
Now, I was in Los Angeles.
I was back there.
Everyone knows I'm from LA.
If you can't tell by my voice, I am.
One of the crazy things is that, you know, I brought Michael Hennessy, our producer here, to downtown first, right?
Down there, like Figuerea, second, seventh, showed him around.
Typical, you had homeless encampments that had the F ice signs on them.
You know, it's very LA, right?
Politically active leftists in homeless encampments shooting up Fent.
You know what I mean?
They call it Fent action.
But you look at the dystopian nature, and then I took him over to where I hang out when I was there, which is West LA, right?
So you got West Hollywood, you got Bel Air, you have Santa Monica, you have, you know, Beverly Hills, you just have West LA in general, right?
So you go over there, and it's like you cross a signal, and then you go into this area, and it's actually, you're like, oh, no wonder why the state has such a high GDP in money.
If these people aren't like, as they say on TikTok, they're rich, rich.
You know, these people are actually insanely wealthy.
These are 30, 60, 120 million dollar homes.
And the disparity between the wealthy and the poor is what's happening across our nation, where the rich are getting richer.
And this is where I start selling communist and the poor are getting poor.
But I care about this because this is catastrophic.
You know, a lot of people are getting richer without trying.
They just earn a home that was worth $300,000 a year ago, four years ago, now it's worth $1.2 million.
You have wealthy people whose companies, which are about to get, you know, hopefully you're invested in Raytheon, guys, have gone up, right?
NVIDIA is a good example, last 15 years.
People have increased their wealth.
And the poor, I think I was reading that like 83% of people under 20 have no desire to own a home ever.
It's like four out of five now.
They don't even think they can.
And I was dumbfounded because listen to this.
The rich, when you take the richest money and you spend on taxes, if you're so rich, you don't notice it.
But as the poor, which I would consider myself part of the poor class, you know, these people spend the richest money in our country.
This is why they don't care if they get richer.
As long as the money keeps pumping, it's coming from somewhere, they're never going to use that money to help you, right?
This is why socialism is never going to work in this country.
They will never use the money to help you in America.
They will use the money to push this Calergy plan, this international plan of whatever they will use your money to resettle migrants and give them your homes.
That's what you see in Northern Ireland with the riots.
That's what you see in London.
That's what you see even in Australia, New Zealand.
They're using your money to get other people into your country and help them while literally kicking you out.
Listen to this.
This is crazy.
In order to fix the anger in New York, Kathy Hochul has a plan to fix the legal problem in the country.
It was like, you know, we're having a problem in our country right now.
So taxpayers are going to spend $50 million to pay for illegals to help them right now.
Additionally, like, okay, be so careful here, but like, okay, just read my mind, what would happen to a person like that in a just country?
Like, imagine someone took, stole, that's like they stole $50 million from the taxpayers to give to non-citizens in your country while people are hurting, can't pay for groceries.
Bad things from the state, by the way, from the state, from the law, should happen to that person, in my opinion.
People are like ashamed of being white and they're told that it's wrong almost to be white.
And so therefore, they owe everybody else all this help because white people are just these awful people who destroyed the world.
We, you know, colonizer.
Right, exactly.
And that's kind of, you know, kind of going back to what you were saying earlier about how it's interesting how the dissident left and the dissident right are on the same side when it comes to the Iran war.
Well, yes, we are, but for different reasons because the left calls, you know, Israel colonizers or, you know, the West colonizers.
So we, yes, we, we don't want the war, but for different, very, very, very different reasons.
Because that is the root of the left's whole argument is that with everything is that white people are bad.
White people don't deserve a homeland.
White people don't deserve to fight for anything.
There's nothing to fight for.
We don't have culture.
Yeah, I would very much disagree with that if you look at the Renaissance time period, for example.
You can look at all of the culture that we still have as a result of that.
But that's where it all stems from.
It's just hatred of the white race and people buy into it.
White people buy into it.
It's really sad.
And it's frustrating for those of us who can recognize it and we know what's happening.
No, a lot of people do say that because they say if you're like Hispanic or you have a Hispanic last name, which is like really annoying because it's just like, what am I then if I'm not white, you know?
But no, unless there are some people who consider Southern Europeans non-white or swarthy whites, which, okay, fine.
Well, I mean, like, it's it is an interesting conversation, though, because, like, you know, each European country is going to have their own like cultural heritage, right?
Um, so it is an interesting conversation.
I mean, personally, I think one of the one of the as far as like this, this whole topic, like, I just want to know why it's like controversial to even talk about when if you say if you bring up like Japan, right, like Japan wanting to be like Japanese, like it's like not an issue, right?
But like, as soon as we have like this conversation right here is going to be like painted as a bunch of like, you know, white nationalists or something talking.
No, okay, well, I think, I mean, we're not going to say this for too long, but I did want to, I did say it's hard for me because my, like, my worldview is this: is that I actually agree with leftists that white is two things.
White is both an actual like ethnicity, but we also have, there's this thing as white culture as well.
So, like, there are white people who are white skin and do not act white, like the wiggers, right?
It's like they're like, yo, fool, what up?
And you're like, okay, you are white by definition, but you've also like rejected what that also means in displaying who you are, right?
We're talking about like Azerbaijan type of thing.
But then, on the other hand, it's like there are people who are not white skinned who have completely adopted white European culture.
I'm not saying they live in Europe, meaning like they're like very docile, very normal, very passive, very, you know, integrated.
They know how to cue in a line, right?
That's a very big thing if you're non-white.
You know how to stand in a line and be quiet.
That's a big one.
You don't play Bluetooth speakers.
No, but I say there's some people who are like very much, they've really integrated.
And I respect the hell out of that.
Like, if you didn't want to live near your people because you didn't like them, I don't assume it's because you thought they were all ugly.
I assume it's because you didn't like the way they behaved.
And so you went now, you behave like this group, and that's what you care about.
So on one hand, I think that whiteness, the left always says whiteness is like, you know, it's a way of life.
It's being quiet in the workplace.
It's this.
You know, they always say that deconstructing whiteness.
So I do think that there are people who could be like European and Southern European who, depending on the way they display themselves or express themselves, could be considered more white, even if their skin color is in itself not very light shade in the same way that I think there are some Southern Europeans that are, I wouldn't consider white.
But it's like, again, when you're the white Muslims in Azerbaijan, like, or like the Afghanis, they're white, but I don't consider them white despite having the skin color and green.
I don't want to harp on this, but like one thing I will say too, the reason the argument matters is for a few things.
So, you know, it's important to have your identity in check there.
But also because I personally just don't believe in race mixing.
And I'm not, that's not a racist thing.
I don't hate people who don't believe in that, but I just personally would not do it.
And that matters, obviously, then how I define myself.
And, you know, I'm not going to go ahead.
I don't have anything culturally in common or even racially in common.
With like, if you were to say I'm brown, why would I, that means I would have to then be with a brown person, but I don't identify, like, I'm not anything like that.
I just think that a lot of people are not white that say they're white, but also I'm also a little bit different than like people who are a little more extreme, white identitarian people.
Who, meaning, I do think that I've met plenty of people I can live around who are not white that I think are great neighbors and they're incredible people.
Doesn't mean I want mass immigration from their countries or a ton of them living around me because there's too many of them and they don't adopt your culture.
But again, I've always said if you're like a Vietnamese person, you helped us in a war, you were a translator and you needed asylum and we gave it to you for like real asylum because you actually like helped us for five years.
I don't mind you coming to my country and being here.
That doesn't mean I want to open up Vietnam to just anyone applying to come into my country.
Like you can class civilizations and civilizations always at the edges have kind of gray areas and fuzzy areas where like the language and the culture reaches another tribe or people group that may have some genetic similarities.
You know, if the Greeks, you know, export, if the papacy and the Greeks export a language and a religion to Russia, Russia converts and becomes somewhat of a civilization beyond being, say, you know, Vikings or whatever, then they build a civilization.
There's going to be a kind of a native ethnic component that makes up the civilization, but you can also have outward influences on the edges of the civilization or the empire that also are touched by that, which I think covers what you're talking about: about like different groups.
Like, is a Sicilian part of you know the white heritage?
So I think that Caucasoid peoples and that haplo group and the genetics is one thing.
Then you have the layer of civilization on top of that, which can be kind of blurry around the edges in terms of where they expand their imperial, you know, ethos to.
And so all of that's going on at the same time.
So there's a biological component, which is, you know, specific genetic.
There's civilizations, and then there's the edges of civilization, which allows for some flexibility.
But usually, when people have this discussion, this debate, they look at the blurry areas and they try to say, see, there's nothing, there's nothing because there's blurry areas here about what exactly.
But that doesn't mean that because just like there's like there's shades of red, but just because there's shades of red, it doesn't mean that there's not red.
And like I would, I would accept, okay, maybe I'm like slightly like lesser on like on the more, the less white side of that scale, but I'm still white.
I'm just like less, you know, or I guess as a Ben Franklin would say, a swarthy white.
So it's like, you know, all I'm saying is, like, ethnic, like, whatever you think I look like, regardless of what you think I look like, ethnically speaking, like, there is, and I've done my 23 or not 23 meeting, what's called ancestry.com.
I'm Southern European, and there's really just no denying that.
I just want to point out: if you wanted to hear more from these guys tonight, they're going to be on tomorrow at 7 p.m. Eastern and also at 7 p.m. Eastern on Saturday.
So they're actually going to be on, it'll be pre-recorded, but they will be on two shows, just so you know.
No, I would say that's half white then because there's two aspects where it's like now he looks white, but because culturally I feel like Sicilians are separated, they've got much more close to like a Spanish sort of familia, like Latin culture than they really have.
Like northern Italians, I consider to be fully white, and I consider middle and southern Italians to be half white.
Like half caste.
That's what I see actually.
It's like because it's culture and skin color.
Like I said, like technically Afghans, there are white Afghans, there are white Hispanics, but that's not a white person.
That's still an Afghani who's white, like light-skinned, right?
Which is what we call light-skinned.
There are black people who are albino and technically their skin's white.
Well, yeah, you know, you are white.
Yeah, you're whiter than I am, but you're still not a white person.
You're not white means to me is like European heritage, particularly the values and temperament of a European.
And I believe it's genetic.
So, like, so when I say I want like, when I say that white people deserve a homeland, I am not talking about bringing in a bunch of Argentinians and South Mexicans.
I am saying that I hope that when my ethnostate gets attacked by Iran, that the whole world supports me as much as they support Israel, you know, which is apparently not.
Well, yeah, I was going to say, but like even myself, like, I'm not like, I don't find a lot of identity.
Like, I actually, my criticisms a lot of like the Wignap movement and a lot of the like white nationalist movement is this: is that there's a lot of people who claim that like we're supreme and that we are the best.
And as somebody who is of that heritage and I come from that background, of course, I think we're the best.
I totally agree with that, that background.
But I think just like, you know, assuming we're the best and not, you know, we're collapsing now, our society's collapse.
So, I mean, we're not becoming less white skin colored.
Technically, we are with intermixing, but we're not becoming like, you know, I'm not less white the less our culture reflects European values.
I'm still, my skin color is staying the same right now, but we're losing what it is that defines us.
You know, we're kind of like losing that as we become multicultural.
What I'm trying to say is these people oftentimes see the same issues I see.
They're very angry, but they have a self-inflated sense of ego and pride to where they then think that they're better than everyone when they're not the best versions of themselves.
And it actually ends up impeding them because they assume because I look this way, I am the more value, I'm better.
And then they're like, you know, in cells, they're not getting married.
And one of my main issues with a lot of these movements, which I think are inherently have good, a good momentum.
I think they're helping young men find identity and value in their heritage.
I totally support them.
But any movement that's not supporting pro-creation is not a real white supremacist movement or white identitarian or white nationalist movement.
Because if you're trying to build a white nation, if you think you're better, then you want to pro-create and make more of you.
And if the goal is not pro-creation, it's like, well, we shouldn't pro-create.
There's all these excuses.
I've heard it all from everyone.
Then what it is, is then what you're doing is you make the movement a cosplay.
So then a bunch of young guys who are like, you know, you end up having a brown white supremacist movement, which is what a lot of these movements become.
And every time I meet these guys at conferences, there are these accounts that I follow that are like pro-America, pro-white, or like Hispanics and they're like black guys.
And they're like not, it's always shocking to me.
I'm always very confused because it becomes a costume.
It's like being white and loving your country is now like having a swastika and making based edits.
And it's like, it's like this, it's almost like how the woke to be a good person.
It's like, you know, you put on your trans flag and you put on your BLM.
Well, it's like, but you wear all these little like trinkets and pins and now you're that you're woke, but yet you do nothing.
You don't help anybody.
You don't give your money to anyone.
Like you're not actually, you're not actually doing anything.
You're just playing the part.
And so a lot of people, I think, are playing the part.
These wig nats and people are like, it's like, dude, going on a bridge and yelling at a mixed race child and calling them an N-word.
We just had a guy who was into a lot of that stuff, convert and become orthodox.
And he was involved with like the neo-pagan, Wotan type Odin movement stuff.
A lot of times biological determinism, which is what those views fall into, I think ends up in another kind of idolatry.
So whereas evangelical boomer or, you know, the Israeli worships his own nation, his own race, you can have a reverse version of that where white identity and the idea of worshiping your blood becomes a new idol.
And we would say that's also demonic because there's a difference between worshiping and serving that and trying to craft a deity which allows you to worship your own bloodline or something.
That's no different.
It's like the reverse of the Zionist type position, right?
So I think they're both wrong, but that doesn't mean that everything about your heritage or identity is wrong or should be degraded.
Rather, there's a balance that should occur.
And the only way to have that balance is to have, right, Christianity as God is first.
And then these are other goods.
They're not the ultimate good, but they're subsidiary goods.
Yeah, I don't know if you agree with me on that, but I feel like I look at my sons in the eyes and they're blonde-haired, blue-eyed little boys.
I don't even say their names on my shows.
I want to protect them.
You know, I don't want to put that out there.
And I know what the world is.
It's against them.
And whether or not they become make Rhodesia, you know, TikToks, or they, you know, join a group that helps other white men survive, they are going to be facing a certain amount of challenges in their life.
And I think they're going to understand those challenges and realize what's going on.
And I want them to not make it like a click or a game where like what happens to people get in these groups and then it becomes about being accepted by the group and like kind of conforming to the group and what they want.
But it's not actually about becoming the best version of yourself and about actually helping your people.
Because if you're helping your people right now in this, in this era, you wouldn't be posting swastikas everywhere because that's, it's like, oh, so what you're not based?
It's like, no, because I'm smart.
And I've always talked about it.
It's like, that's not a smart thing to do.
You know, that's not the best way to gain intelligence and power.
Go infiltrate.
Go get in.
Go work on yourself.
Go try to get influence and be a moral person and try to build character.
Go have children.
And it's like, if you don't, if that, if your goal isn't to be a moral person, honor God, start a family, gain influence, gain wealth, and not become corrupt in order to have and exert power over your immediate sphere and your greater sphere, then you're not a serious movement of people.
And you're a club.
It's like a social club, not really a movement of like reality.
It's not about, you know, calling people names or just saying things, inflammatory things for the sake of saying inflammatory things.
I mean, sure, we can joke around here and there and say those things, but I think really what it means is to, you know, basically, you know, succeed at everything you can and be knowledgeable about culture, about art, about, you know, the world and be educated and regain power for the right reasons.
And so it's not about like, oh, you know, this, you know, NNWP, you know what that, I don't know if I can say that.
I, I think there's a lot of people, like, I don't have the physiogamy to where I think people look at me and they seethe because I don't think I have a phenotype that people really want, right?
Like it's, it's actually so sad that when I meet people in person, the first thing they always say, which they say to you too, Mike, in the back, they always say, I didn't realize you were so tall.
And because obviously there are traits about being a man, just like you can be short, people find out you're rich, right?
Why do wealthy people try to hide their money often?
Because they know that, you know, once people find out they have a lot of money, they will like them more because of the money and they don't want to be valued for that.
So sometimes it's funny because like I call myself a dating app failure.
You know, if you just, if you didn't see my bank account and you didn't meet me in person and get my personality and you didn't see my height, I'm an ugly ass motherfucker.
However, girls do value multiple things.
So like I've never, I never had a problem dating in person, right?
Or like, you know, meeting a girl and attracting them or whatever.
And my wife loves me, but I'm going to get swiped away.
And that's okay.
What I think, though, genuinely speaking is, is that people like, this is, what are we saying?
But I think people see Ben and his physiogamy in this sort of like white Scandinavian, like giga Chad thing.
And I think that it actually makes them see that a lot of people have this inferiority complex, as they would call it.
It's not because of European beauty standards, but I think that even a lot of white people that are not born with that Scandinavian, like tan skin and that sort of like Chad, what you think Superman, sort of like Henry Cavill type of like, you know, look, I think a lot of the other races also feel inferior.
Have you ever seen an average British person?
They're not that good looking.
An average Scandinavian is, comparatively.
So I do think there's an actual hatred of beauty, though, pause.
I'm talking about a man now, so this is a good gang.
But it's like, but I mean this, I mean, with, I'm talking about Scandinavian women particularly.
I mean, they're known as being the most beautiful in the world, besides, of course, the women in this office right here, the wives and everyone.
Guys, we're all, give me a round of applause.
We're all the women, my wife, you're all the most beautiful.
But they're known for that.
I do think that there is a hatred from people because they are not as good looking.
I was in El Salvador working, and I'm telling you, I saw three attractive women in the Capitol the entire time I was there.
That's crazy.
Anyway, I saw a video clip of Russian streets.
I'm married, so I'll be careful, but you know, conventionally attractive, meaning I saw a video just walking through the streets, and there was like probably 100 in like a two minute.
Like, you know, the fact that we need to be told that black, black features are beautiful.
Like, what does that tell you if you need to be told something?
If you don't, you're not naturally gravitating towards something.
And that's not to say that I think like, you know, you're automatically ugly if you're not white.
I'm just saying that there's something to be said for the fact that people do tend to agree upon the fact that European features are the most beautiful, the most proportionate.
God has designed in our society a order in the chaos, right?
He designed a standard.
And I think what a lot of the problems is in our society, I'm going to kind of confess here.
I hate to, I'm not going to be like, sometimes I used to tell too much about my private life.
I was like, stop.
You're giving your enemies ammo.
But I'm not a problem.
No, no, but I like to be raw and real on the show.
We like it raw here.
But is I do believe there are standards.
And the main problem in our society that I think is that people don't want to accept the standards and the boundaries that God has given us, which is like, for instance, why do we have the Me Too movement?
Well, because we have to really focus on consent because we've thrown out the standards of any sexual boundaries.
You can do whatever you want.
You know what I mean?
Except as long as they say yes.
And so now we know there has to be a standard in sexuality, but there has to be boundaries.
It feels uncomfortable to have just a society of rape where you could just go around like in Sodom and Gomorrah and just grab the visitor and mass rape them in an orgy.
That sounds wrong to us to the state.
It's like you've got to consent.
But we've thrown out with same-sex relationships.
We thrown out with promiscuity.
We've thrown out with infidelity.
We've thrown all these things out.
And I think that one of the hard parts is now as a person is I've noticed in the entire conservative movement, everyone's got a lot of ideas for how to fix the country, includes the left too.
And they don't know how to fix their own lives.
Everyone's kind of messed up.
And at least some admit it, and they're working on it with God.
But it's like, you know, you see our politicians, they have the most screwed up life.
Even Trump's been divorced like three times, something like that.
All I'm saying is I feel like the standards that we're not willing to accept are what are destroying us.
And the more that we're not allowed to talk about these standards, that white people are afraid to admit that they're better looking or that their culture is better or their country and their way of life is superior is a huge limitation that is what holds us back.
I don't know if that conflicts with Christianity, but I do think that we need to be more open about the greatness of who we are and what we've done and our standards.
And I don't know why it would be weird to believe that objectively white people are better looking.
That's just my opinion.
But maybe that's not true.
Who knows?
Everyone's looking at me like I'm saying something terrible.
So we need to talk about there's an ontological equality of humanity as being created in the image of God.
That's the Christian view.
However, what the leftists have done is they've taken that and then they've extended it to meaning that there's no differences, right, in us as people, right?
God created us with our differences.
And so, yes, to own those differences is not a, that's not an issue.
The issue is when you start to reduce somebody to being non-human or being ontologically not equal just because, you know, they're not like you, for example.
Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, like, don't you think, this is even uncomfortable in this own studio, but don't you think that there's like a standard in terms of like, like, this is, so I'll keep this completely appropriate with you here, but it's like, like, okay, so conventionally, the chat is attracted to you.
And it's because you have, there's what's called conventional beauty, right?
Like, for instance, Jay is intimidating to all of us.
And if we have a guest who's conventionally unattractive, they're freaking brutal, right?
We just saw that recently.
They're like, yeah, we're not going to name anyone's name, but they're very, very upset.
That convention of what beauty is is like, okay, I'm not saying that just white people are beautiful, but then my opinion is, is that girls that are beautiful have conventionally white features.
No, but the more European you look, that tends to be what makes you attractive.
And that's why, like, I, I know, I agree.
That's why some, like, and this is true for like, you know, especially Latin America, because there's a lot of, you know, Latin America is kind of a confusing place because there's a lot of whites there too.
So like what makes them attractive is how much European they have.
Because remember, it's like a mixed part of the world because you had the European influence when they came over.
Like somebody like Sophia Regara, why is she considered beautiful?
Well, because she's probably, I would wager, like at least 70% European.
Can I make one more point from the theological standpoint?
So another important distinction is the general versus individual distinction.
So for example, when St. Paul writes his letter to Titus, he specifically talks about the Cretians and he says all Cretans are deceivers and liars and he says all these nasty things about Cretians, right?
But what's interesting is he's writing to St. Titus, who is a Cretian, and he's writing about, and he's writing to the faithful that are in Crete, right?
And so what St. Paul does there is like he, that kind of shows this general versus individual distinction that's really important in these conversations is like, okay, like we're making general generalities, which aren't necessarily inherently wrong, but you have to understand there's also individual exceptions.
The problem with AOC is that I think of her as way hotter than she is, only because all the pictures I see of AOC are like AI pictures that people bake to make her hotter than she is.
Like recently, I was thinking, I was like, oh, yeah, AOC's got green eyes and like light, pale skin.
Well, I mean, there's a lot of records of miraculous events in like the Maccabees in the temple and, you know, the Theophanies in the Temple in the Old Testament.
So there are mentions of miracles, but I'm not familiar with that Talmudic statement.
Catechumen is basically the process to becoming Orthodox.
So usually it's about six months to a year, and it's where you go through catechesis, where you learn classes about the Orthodox faith before you get baptized and chrismated.
Okay, I want to mention just one, a couple small things here because everyone seems, these guys had a long drive.
Everyone seems very tired, which is fine, but you're pulling through.
Part of being a dad or a parent is this.
This morning, yeah, my son Superman jumped onto me at like one in the morning, slept in my bed with me, and then also grabbed his gun today and at six, five through the morning, just went smashed over the top of my head.
So I've had a great night's sleep.
I wanted to go over the story here that I think is really important.
Representative Ana Paulina Luna reminded us one thing that while we're fighting about immigration and we are also fighting about Israel, you know, our country has problems.
He didn't know about that.
She said that, you know, Congress has never even subpoenaed George Soros.
The story is that she made an ex-post, which is probably the majority of right-wing news these days.
That's what we report on, you know.
But she was saying, you know, George Soros has been funding the destruction of our country for a very long time.
The summary of this was that, you know, we know about his money, but like Epstein, why has no one done anything about it?
You know, if he is undermining our democracy, if he's literally paying judges to be corrupt, he's, you know, hijacking campaigns, and he's at a local level.
Everyone knows Soros, if not familiar, is funding campaigns at local levels to get judges and DAs in different counties to be light on crime.
All these criminal problems are largely his open society foundation and what he's doing.
That's my understanding.
Maybe I'm wrong, but he's a huge coordinator.
And Alex Soros, his son, who just married Huma Abadin.
First on Ukraine, one of the things that many people recognized about you was that you, during the revolutions of 1989, funded a lot of dissident activities, civil society groups in Eastern Europe and Poland, the Czech Republic.
It's, in fact, it's well known if you read, say, Ingahl's book, Full Spectrum Dominance, where he goes into the history of color revolutions and the fact that back in the 1980s, when you had a shift under Reagan away from the older CIA coup model, they went under the cover of NGOs, humanitarian aid organizations, think tanks, and foundations to do what the CIA used to do.
So now the CIA operates through things like Open Society Institute.
And so the reason that Soros will never get in trouble is that all those color revolutions to remake all the former Soviet countries into open neoliberal markets was, according to Soros himself, done by Soros himself and his institute.
In fact, there's a video clip you should find that's really good where he laughs about the former Soviet empire is now the Soros Empire because of the color revolutions.
Okay, so let me, by the way, get Brian ready real fast because we're going to cut on YouTube and on Rumble and X in a second.
Just go over to locals for the overtime segment here on these couple stories.
But, you know, as we transition into there, I want to make sure you guys first plug to the audience where they can find and follow you as we continue to talk about Soros.
So, Anna, if people want to support you and they want to follow you, what's the best place they can follow you as we go over to our locals only segment?
All right, to the rest of you guys watching right now, head over to ElijahSchaefer.locals.com.
I think we have it right there.
Yeah, ElijahSchaefer.locals.com.
We've got about another 15 minutes that we're going to be going over a few like quick stories and talk about our opinion, some cultural stuff and what's happening.
And kind of going forward for the rest of our shows, we're pretty much going to be doing our last overtime segment just there.
It's free to join.
And for the time being, we're not requiring you to have a membership to watch the overtime segment.
You just got to put in, I think, your email and watch.
But I appreciate you guys going over there.
So we'll be right back.
We're putting the screen up and we'll see you in about two or three minutes real fast over for the last 15 minutes of the show.
