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Feb. 19, 2025 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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ALMOST SERIOUS: How Mass Legal Immigration DESTROYED Australia | Guest: Maria Zeee

What in the WORLD happened to Australia? Once a great nation with people full of pride for their country, the land down under has turned into a free-for-all for third world nations to overrun with virtually no limit, to the point where it's even considered "offensive" to fly the country's flag. So, how did it get this way - and is America on the same track?Show more Maria Zeee joins us for this episode of Almost Serious! ⇩ SHOW SPONSORS⇩ ➤ THE WELLNESS COMPANY: Be prepared for what is coming next! Order your MEDICAL EMERGENCY KIT ASAP at https://www.twc.health/ALMOSTSERIOUS and enter code SERIOUS for 10% off. The Wellness Company and their licensed doctors are medical professionals you can trust, and their medical emergency kits are the gold standard to keeping you safe! Again, that’s https://www.twc.health/ALMOSTSERIOUS, promo code SERIOUS. ➤ LOCALS: Visit our Locals page and use code ALMOSTSERIOUS for 1 month FREE! https://bit.ly/411OyIQ __ ⇩LISTEN TO THE AUDIO-ONLY PODCAST⇩ https://linktr.ee/almostseriousE __ ⇩FOLLOW MARIA ZEEE⇩ ➤ https://x.com/zeee_media ➤ https://rumble.com/user/ZeeeMedia ➤ https://zeeemedia.com/ __ ➤BOOKINGS + BUSINESS INQUIRIES: [email protected] #australia Show less

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elijah schaffer
Imagine if you got shamed in America for flying an American flag on 4th of July.
That's what's happening in Australia.
You're antagonizing people who are not white by just flying the country's flag on the day that is named after the country.
Like, that is what's going on, right?
maria zeee
That is exactly what's going on.
If you were to go to Australia now and say, what is the identity of this nation?
You wouldn't be able to identify it.
I'm concerned that Australia is going downhill extremely, extremely quickly.
I don't know how it can come back up if we don't see immediate change, change in the immediate future, rather.
elijah schaffer
Do you have any idea who's behind this?
Australia, also known as the land down under, or as my friends call it down under, down under, because they can't say they're ours, but once touted as more British than actual Britain, but with sunlight and less depression and maybe a little bit less alcoholism.
has now turned into a mega-utopian society.
But for who?
Well, for immigrants, that is.
Surrounded by water on all sides, the country boasts some of the strongest civil and border protection, but suddenly they're not enforcing it like every other Western country.
And once a nation with the White Australia policy, which pretty much only favored white immigrants, has now opened its doors not just up to the rest of the world, but seems to be favoring them.
What's up with this change?
And has bringing in tons of people from India and South Asia really made the nation better?
Have the people of Australia benefited?
Is the housing crisis non-existent?
Are they living a better life?
Well, we'll find out today with my guest, Maria Z. She's an Australian independent journalist and a commentator who rose to prominence as a vocal critic of government policies.
If you don't know about her already, particularly during the COVID pandemic, she was a voice of reason.
Now she is recognized for her strong stance against what she perceives as government tyranny and her resistance to the great reset.
Maria hosts an amazing show called Media Blackout, where she discusses these topics.
You can find the links in the description.
And she has been described as one of the most censored independent journalists in all of Australia.
And I can vouch for that.
As many of you know, my children are dual citizen, Australian-American.
My wife is an Australian citizen, and I'm a resident of Australia, and she is a celebrity to be reckoned with.
She has contributed to various alternative media platforms over the years, focusing on exposing conspiracies, corruption, geopolitics, emerging technologies, and technocracy.
All very intriguing concepts.
My guest for today on Almost Sirius, all the way from the land down under, welcome to Almost Sirius.
maria zeee
Thank you, Elijah.
It's great to be here.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and what an introduction it is for you.
Because, you know, before we get into the topic today, I know that you're here in the United States on this set, and no matter how far away you are from home, it'll always break your heart seeing what's going on over there from the policing to the social programs being handed out to people who don't care.
And I just got to ask you, is it as bad over there as it looks like all the way over here in the United States?
maria zeee
I think in many ways it's a lot worse than what it looks like.
Maybe not on the surface.
If you went there for a holiday, you would think it was beautiful because it is physically.
It's an incredibly beautiful country.
But only the people that are living there that are really paying attention to what's going on behind the scenes, some of the laws being passed, some of the things, if you can read between the lines and the double speak of the government, you understand in which direction it's heading.
And the direction that it's heading is not good.
Not good.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
So let's talk about that.
So Australia is a really unique country.
Obviously, you know, it's unique to you because it's where you're from.
It's unique to me because that's where my family's from.
But what I find to be most fascinating is we can kind of look at a case study of what's going to happen to the rest of the West by what's happening in Australia.
Because look, we're going to talk about its borders first and what's going on with the immigration, because this is a suspicious thing that's happening in every Western country, particularly where white people are native, that we have to embrace this new idea of multiculturalism.
So let's go back and talk about this collapse.
You know, Australia used to be one of the strongest economies in the world.
It still is very much today.
It used to be one of the safest nations in the entire world.
And coincidentally, whether you want to relate it to it or not, it was predominantly or almost completely white, minus some of the Aboriginals who were there, you know, before the settlers came.
But now we have this new experiment that's going on.
You know, when did Australia start to change in this idea of going from extreme of a white Australia policy, you know, only favoring white immigrants from particular nations, kicking the Chinese out, you know, after they helped build it, kicking the Middle Easterners out after they helped explore the interior?
Like when did we start going towards this?
Not only is everyone welcome, but we don't even want Australia to be white at all.
maria zeee
It's a really good question.
I can't pinpoint the exact moment that it happened, but the increases in immigration, particularly from countries like India or China, the Middle East, places like this, in stark contrast to maybe Europeans that came in in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s.
I mean, these are very different cultures compared to the British that were there and the Europeans that came in early on that really helped build the country.
And the difference, I guess, between early immigration was that the Europeans that came assimilated.
They weren't just Greeks, Italians, Serbians, whatever.
That wasn't their identity anymore.
It was, we are Australians.
We are Aussies through and through.
When we go home to visit or our previous home to visit, they call us Aussies.
I don't think that that is the case with a lot of the immigrants that are coming now because a number of different reasons.
I think Australia is viewed as a place that can be exploited for opportunity, which, yeah, it does give you opportunity, but there's no incentive or even directive to become assimilated.
In fact, it's come here and be whoever you are and bring in your cultures.
And we don't actually have a culture anymore at all to ask you to become a part of.
So they've done things like Eradicate Australia Day.
You have politicians that speak up against Australia Day, for goodness sake.
elijah schaffer
Which is like, which is like, to be fair to the American audience, that's kind of like our independence day.
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Kind of.
elijah schaffer
Even though the US didn't really fight a war, it still is when Australia had their own passports, right?
It's its own identity apart from the British Empire.
So there is a day that you guys have to celebrate identity.
And it's to kind of put into perspective for people.
Imagine if you got shamed in America for flying an American flag on 4th of July.
That's what's happening in Australia.
Like you are, you're considered a, you know, a white supremacist, even if you're not white, or a, um, you're antagonizing people who are not white by just flying the country's flag on the day that is named after the country.
Like, that's, that is what's going on, right?
maria zeee
That is exactly what's going on.
And so, there's been some backlash of late.
Particularly, there's a very large retailer in Australia, one of the largest, kind of the equivalent of say, a HEB of Texas, but nationally, you know, grocery store.
And they refused to sell any Australia Day merchandise last year.
And so there was a huge backlash, huge boycott.
These things are happening because Australians are sick of being told, how dare you be proud to be in the country that you're in?
You know, it's crazy.
And there was even an instance in recent times where children were being asked to, in school, as the part of the morning assembly, to touch the ground and say that this always has been Aboriginal land and kind of be ashamed, bowing down to the floor.
Children being ashamed of the land that they're on, saying this isn't our land.
Well, these children were born here.
What do you mean it's not their land?
That's insane.
And so the identity of the country, Elijah, is what I'm trying to say.
And it's multifaceted, but it has been thoroughly demolished.
No one really knows other than the people that remember what Australia used to be.
If you were to go to Australia now and say, what is the identity of this nation?
You wouldn't be able to identify it.
elijah schaffer
I've never seen this before.
Like in any country I've traveled into or across, and I've worked in other countries.
I've worked in Asia.
I've worked in South Korea.
I've worked in China.
I've, you know, obviously traveled a lot, you know, been to Mexico, been to different countries around the world.
And of course, I've lived in Australia in and out of it for the last seven years.
And I don't think I've ever been to a place that is so holistically experiencing this weird woke idea of white guilt, right?
I mean, like, you can go, you can go to Los Angeles or whatever here, and you can, you can experience a little bit of that white guilt if you go into like West LA, Santa Monica, or, you know, maybe you go into the Hollywood Hills or something.
People are rich and feel bad about, you know, being wealthy, watching the poors, you know, fight it out over fentanyl on the streets.
But, but it's there.
It's like, it's not that they're colorblind.
And so they're just like, oh, we're, you know, we're getting this colorblind meritocracy.
It's that people not only don't want to recognize that white people built the country, they want to think that it's bad that they built something so amazing that people want to go to.
So it's this weird identity to where people want to come there and they're letting people in because it's such a great place.
They admit that white people made it so great, but now they're saying that the only way to make it great again, like make America great again, make Australia great again, the only MAGA for them is to make sure that the future of Australia is not white.
And it's not just ideological.
It's like self-hatred that it's like, if you're an Australian and you're white, you know, we don't want this country to be like that anymore.
I don't, where did that come from?
Or why, what is that?
It's so, it's so bizarre as an American to me.
So bizarre.
maria zeee
Well, I think that we heard similar ideas from the previous administration here Here in America.
Right.
And really, I find that Australia is the test case for a lot of these agendas that you really can't deny are happening all around the Western world, Canada, the UK, Australia, and they were trying to here in America.
elijah schaffer
New Zealand, right?
I mean, it's just as bad there.
maria zeee
So, so, so, just the five eyes nations, really, you know, they're all going through the same thing.
There is a very, very interesting document from the United Nations titled Replacement Migration that talks about how because of a number of different factors, like, I don't know, inequality and climate and whatever else they reference there, there is going to be this huge need to bring a lot of migrants into Western nations and developed nations and developing nations, as opposed to those who continue to struggle to develop.
And so, the title of that document is Replacement Migration.
elijah schaffer
This is from the UN.
maria zeee
From the United Nations.
elijah schaffer
Because obviously, we're on YouTube and it's like every video that we've produced so far, I'm looking at my producer, and they've put like a note under it, right?
Like, like we talk about January 6th, and like it was a terrorist event.
And then we talk about the election, and it's like we weren't even talking about the 2024 election.
They're like, it has been confirmed Donald Trump is the president.
They're like, well, we didn't deny that.
You know, they put these things in one of the notes they put is about this replacement migration being a conspiracy.
In fact, if you look it up on a very reputable website known as Wikipedia.
In fact, Wikipedia might be sanctified as a saint in the Catholic Church at this point.
It's treated so holy.
You can't use it as a reference in your college papers, even, but we want to reference it to judge every other person.
They say it's a white supremacist conspiracy theory.
But like, just to clarify, I mean, you're telling me this is the UN is admitting that they're trying to do this.
maria zeee
So, again, within that document, you will find reasons like inequality and climate and all these, all these reasons why they need to migrate a lot of people into developed nations.
But the document title is Replacement Migration.
People can read between the lines there.
That's what they have published.
It's widely available.
You can literally find it on Google.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And so let's talk about this replacement migration.
You know, when you go to Sydney, when you go to Melbourne, if people want to know, Australia is also a very unique country because they, unlike the United States, where we have a very strong political rule, and I don't mean hyper rule, but all of our political power isn't focused in just the cities, you know?
And you saw that with the last election with Trump, that people who don't live in the center of cities do have a political say-so, and so much so that we're able to win elections still.
And when you're not in a city, you do think differently.
Um, because you can't just be gay and you know, go to orgies and basements and get peed on or whatever in New York.
I did see a video that's what they're doing there.
Trust me, it's not from experience, but I did see that's happening.
And, you know, I'm from LA and I know a lot of weird people, and I'm definitely an exception, you know, the way that I think.
And we know that cities tend to turn people liberal because you have so much convenience, you're so detached from the way your food's processed, you're so detached from any type of family, it's too expensive to have kids.
And you end up sort of, you know, thinking monolithically, like in your own, in your own way.
But in Australia, people really are just relegated primarily to the coasts and to like these five main main cities.
I mean, right?
And so you get this hive mind there that I've never seen, where on one hand, they deny their identity, like we don't have one, but at the same time, they all kind of think the same.
maria zeee
Yes.
Yes, that's that's absolutely right.
The identity denial or the erosion of identity has caused them to think the same and adopt this, what I think has been a conditioning towards socialism for many decades.
Australia has an unbelievably ridiculous welfare system.
And I say that as someone who worked within that system, trying to help people get jobs and get out of the welfare system.
And that's what I did prior to media.
And so they just, there isn't really an incentive for a lot of people to get off welfare.
It's an enabling culture, right?
People who abuse the system aren't really penalized properly.
And I can vouch for that.
So years and years of conditioning people to be dependent on the government and just trust the government.
Even recently, there was the social media age ban situation in Australia.
And the prime minister came out and said, don't worry, parents, the onus is on us.
We'll look after your children.
Who in their right mind would be accepted, would accept a prime minister or a president of a nation, a leader of a nation, telling you that the job of raising your children is in his hands.
That is absolutely unbelievable.
But years and years and years of conditioning the people to be dependent on the government, you know, predominantly living good lives.
Australia was a very prosperous country.
It was a country where you could be prosperous before, you know, they started taxing people at ridiculous rates.
Now, the highest tax break bracket, you could be paying up to 48% in taxes.
elijah schaffer
That's insane.
It is insane.
Because part of the thing that makes me laugh is people in Australia always say, well, we have free health care.
And I go, paying my tax rate, I'm in the highest tax bracket here.
Paying my tax bracket in the United States, highest one you can be in, second highest, I think maybe.
But plus my insurance is still cheaper than what I would be paying.
And I have the better insurance that I'd get in Australia, right?
I have a great PPO.
People don't know that from Australia.
It's like I can see, I don't have to go to a GP.
I don't have to go to a practitioner.
I can see a specialist.
I can, you know, I don't have any co-pays.
I don't have any out-of-pocket money.
And that compared with my tax bracket is still only, you know, it's still less than 40%, you know?
And so it's like we do pay less overall and we get better health care.
So there's a little bit of a lie from the government there where they make people think you're getting more than what you're actually been given, but they're taking a lot more from the people than they're actually giving back.
That's what I saw.
maria zeee
100%.
And if you go to any public hospital, you'll likely be speaking to a migrant who doesn't speak very good English, doesn't even necessarily have the best training in healthcare.
Right now, they're so short on nurses because of how many didn't like what they saw during the period of COVID.
So many resigned.
So they just said, oh, we'll just import a whole bunch of migrants to come and be nurses here.
We can't guarantee the quality of their training.
Nothing.
elijah schaffer
Was it just Victoria, which is a state, by the way, kind of like California, if people aren't familiar?
There's only a few states, but it is broken up.
Which was it the whole federal restriction removal?
I saw a video where they said, yeah, we're not holding migrant doctors from India to the same standards that Australian doctors have to be held to.
Where was that?
maria zeee
I actually don't.
I don't remember.
I did see it.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, they were just like, hey, you know what?
We fired all you guys for not getting jabbed.
And many of you guys quit.
So we did fill the quota of qualified doctors and nurses, which is a very difficult, you know, very highly skilled profession.
We're bringing in replacements.
They said we're bringing in doctors and nurses.
They just didn't say what kind of doctors and nurses they were bringing in.
Apparently, they're unqualified, but they're good enough for the Australian people.
Like that, that blew my mind because there's already so much malpractice that goes on in the Western world with the training that we have.
maria zeee
Yes.
elijah schaffer
And there's so many standards.
And now Australia is like, well, yeah, like I think that's the funniest lie.
I don't know if people would resonate with this, but they always said doctors, we're bringing doctors and engineers, doctors and nurses.
And it's like, but they're not even trained properly.
If I was an Australian, I would be livid towards my government.
maria zeee
But there are a lot of Australians who are live at Elijah.
The problem is that because there is already a uniparty established in Australia, like many countries, they don't really, there's no option for recourse.
Really, all they have is, okay, this next election's coming up.
And, you know, God willing, it goes well that you have more independents putting their hands up to get seats in the Senate.
Potentially, that will help them hold some sort of balance of power where they can actually block bad legislation, argue for better legislation.
But to get a prime minister elected that's actually interested in helping the country and isn't just serving the uniparty is a very, very long way away, if ever.
And so, a lot of people are quite despondent.
They're saying, well, what do we do now?
I will never forget.
I recently interviewed a very, you know, a quality journalist from the UK when people were being imprisoned for their social media posts recently, you recall.
And I sensed how discouraged these people were.
What happens is the fist of tyranny continues to push you down.
Eventually, you just go, I don't know why I should fight anymore.
And what happens with the censorship and the silos that social media creates in conjunction with whatever the government agenda of the day is, you end up feeling like you're quite alone.
You end up feeling like, well, I can't even get my voice heard.
The communities in Australia, that's the other thing.
America, what I've noticed here is that there is a very, very strong ability for the communities are stronger and they meet and they share resources and they care for one another's families.
That doesn't exist in Australia.
It's a very individualistic society, or if it does, it's only very small pockets.
So communities don't even organize to get things done as well as they do here, for example.
So there are a lot of things that Australians could learn from the way that Americans are if they're able to really restore that passion and that fighting spirit that is the Australian spirit.
But it needs to happen soon because if things don't change, I'm concerned that Australia is going downhill extremely, extremely quickly.
I don't know how it can come back up if we don't see immediate change, change in the immediate future, rather.
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Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And to get into the specifics, I think that there's a huge reason why Australia is seeing such a rapid collapse is because they're presented with the same modern problems the U.S. is, but in a lot of ways, socially, they are extremely ignorant and like 20 years behind.
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So i'm here with Maria Z and we're talking um I.
I think that you know, as we talk about the immigration, this weird replacement that's going on, this um hive mind.
One of the ways that I believe this is happening is because Australia still very much consumes the mainstream media like it is.
It is.
It is so powerful that I I, I what do I mean by that?
It could still be disqualifying from what i've seen in certain, in certain uh political races.
For you to go on a Joe Rogan podcast like that's still like Hitler and Nazi and enough to get you to be on the.
You know they.
They still use phrases like the alt-right and extremists and you know we've sort of toned down even here, calling people Nazis and stuff like that's.
It was a little more 2016, but we don't really go that far over there.
There is such a high social credit system enforced by the mainstream media to tell people who are listening.
I know people are blown about this.
People still listen to the radio there.
maria zeee
Yes, quite a, quite a lot.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, the radio, the FM radio, is actually like Triple J and you know 100 hot.
Like people at new year still wait for the 100 top songs on new year's and these are like young people, like 19 year olds, still listen to the radio.
How far behind are they technologically?
Because I feel like even the internet barely got fast there.
maria zeee
Yeah it's they're they're, they're behind in a lot of the thinking that, especially with this last election season in the U.s?
Um, it's shifted a lot of the thinking around engaging with independent media podcasts.
Um Australia definitely, the government injects a lot of money into the, the uh state-funded media, which is the ABC.
I note that now um Trump is looking at reviewing um PB UH NPR, NPR.
Yeah, PBS too, PBS and NPR.
Right, so that's not even in the sites for either of the two governments that are two governments that are, you know, proposed there um.
But I think one of the biggest problems Elijah, and you know this, and I know you know this because you've spoken about it the culture in Australia.
There is a real problem and again, this comes from years of conditioning towards socialism and, you know, I think people just never see themselves becoming extremely successful in Australia because of it.
When people try to start independent media outlets there, first of all the censorship's worse than it is in, You know, the US, for example.
And the culture is, oh, if you're too successful, you must be, you know, in bed with bad guys, or, you know, who are you?
And you see, you get this pylon.
There isn't really the celebration of success that there is in America in Australia.
And that happens a lot with indie media.
And so independent rather.
So what happens is they often give up.
There isn't the huge support of cross-promotion and things that you really are very natural in the US because it just makes good sense, especially if you're all on the same side.
That is something that Australia struggles with.
So I think that Aussies need to get over that and realize that independent media is, if they want to win the information war aspect of this, they really have to get over themselves.
You know, everyone, get rid of your ego, realize you're all working on the same team.
It's not about who's the best or who's getting the more views or, you know, any of this.
It's really about let's let's let's win this this battle for information.
But they still can't seem to get over that hump.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And I do think that is, it is interesting because the biggest, you know, independent media that's there would probably be rebel media.
I would say probably with Avi Yemeni and what they've got going on there.
And I do find that the Australian mind is very much almost antagonistic towards collective success.
You know, like we're not going to get too into it on this on this show, but you know, Avi and I disagree on one topic that has nothing to do with Australia, has nothing to do with the United States.
It has to do with a war in the Middle East.
And he wouldn't shake my hand in public at a rally that we're at that's smaller than another rally.
You know, it's the right-wing rally.
He doesn't want to work with me over a disagreement over a foreign country unrelated to either of our nations.
And when you think about that, you go, is that guy really my friend?
No, that guy cares more about his own interests than he cares about the collective interests of the nation.
Because look, quite frankly, him and I probably disagree on a lot of things that are unrelated to what we're fighting for in that moment.
But the fact that he couldn't get past that, I go, that is such an Australian thing to just like, you know, be threatened by somebody who's got maybe more followers than you and not want to work with them because, you know, they must have not your interest in mind because you can't work with them.
Because what are they doing here?
And you get suspicious and all of a sudden he's like my enemy and won't even appear on, you know, he wouldn't shake my hand.
He told me he would not shake my hand.
We've been friends, wouldn't shake.
That's how it is.
It's crazy.
It's obvious.
He's a famous guy.
It's very petty, very, very, very immature and somewhat disappointing.
And this isn't an attack on him.
It's just the reality that this is, this is sort of an example of what's going on there.
Of course, there's other reasons that that happened, but overall, that's sort of what happens.
People get really, they have an odd suspicion rather than a excitement.
Like, oh, there's someone here who I agree with on 90% of stuff.
Let's work together.
Let's form a network.
Let's do this.
And you'll notice in Australia, everybody basically just follows American political content.
And if you're Australian and you want to be a political commentator, most of them just move to the U.S. eventually because that's where the money and the audience is.
Because Australians, quite frankly, are so used to getting free public broadcasting.
I mean, maybe you pay a licensing fee or whatever, but overall, you're not paying for this.
There's no idea of like paying for an individual to rise up and to fight back.
There's just like a, well, we'll wait.
It'll be all right.
And when it all changes towards the better, it will.
But they don't realize it.
The fight now is when it is in the small individual, like Dusty Bogan is a good creator out there who's just challenging people on the streets, you know?
Like, I feel like that, that, that, it, it's, that mindset doesn't exist because the mainstream media has made people think that those people are bad actors and that there's basically no way for people to even see an example of independent people because they'll also get censored so badly in the country that like I said, the only way an Australian independent media can make it is in America.
maria zeee
Well, I will say, as far as our audience, as in Z Media, the outlet I founded, they're definitely more American-minded, if I could put it that way, in the sense that they do celebrate success.
They do want to help and promote and have that community spirit and expand that.
They want people to be free, right?
So, but that is such a small minority of the country.
I'm speaking about a sliver of the people in general.
And I'm sure they would agree when they watch this, they'll agree that that's not the majority of people.
Majority of people are what you're describing, which is somehow no one's allowed to succeed.
Tall poppy syndrome, a lot of people call it.
And that needs to just, I don't know why it's there.
I don't, again, I think it's just years of conditioning of this socialistic way of thinking, nanny state, all of the above.
And Australians are very paranoid as well.
And I don't blame them.
I don't blame them because of all of the betrayal.
I don't blame them because of all the ways in which they're being squashed, all the different ways in which the government is actively working against them.
And there's like a catch-22 to everything, right?
It's every, it's almost like every story that's happening right now, every, every major national event has some sort of a catch-22 attached to it.
So I don't blame them for being paranoid people, but they really do need to start working together better.
And like you said, you know, come together as different media outlets, collaborate, celebrate the small creators, promote one another.
This isn't, which freedom isn't a contest, you know?
And that's something Americans really do do better.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I think that we, I think that that's why I want to encourage any Australians, if you know people there, you know, don't be discouraged by the public judgment.
Because even when I went there, you know, Maria, I, you know, faced a lot of backlash.
I think I was there for like one month before the ABC decided to do a special, you know, on how I was, you know, speaking poorly of Aboriginals.
And because I had said, I made a joke that they were the only Native people during the era of colonization to defeat themselves.
They were just handed a bottle of Jim Bean and they drunk themselves into defeat.
And you know what?
That's it's true.
I mean, you know, there's no need to drop a bomb when they're dropping to the floor themselves in the streets.
And, you know, Australians get real sensitive about those things.
Well, don't talk about Aboriginals that way.
And you go, listen, you guys have an Aboriginal problem in your country of what to do with these people and ignoring it is not going to help.
Sort of like in America with our black crime problem, right?
People just try to ignore it.
It's like, it's not going to go away.
You know, you're still going to get shot in South Chicago if you're a white guy wearing the wrong thing.
And whether you want to admit it, that's happening or not, that it does happen every day.
And as much as you want to cry about, you know, some fake hate crime against some Jewish person, some graffiti on the wall, you know, black people are killing themselves in the dozens every weekend and just Chicago, you know, like that's a serious problem.
And it doesn't, it doesn't benefit us collectively to not acknowledge a problem.
And with Aboriginals, they have not integrated successfully.
And in a country where you cannot even integrate the Native people that were living there, and then you have an identity issue where you have no identity.
And then you're bringing in millions of more people.
How do you think this is going to end up in any other way than social duress, problematic, you know, relations between races and an increase in chaos?
I don't think that that combo is anything more but a recipe for the complete collapse of Australian society.
Maybe the economy will function continually, but it'll turn into an amusement park, not a nation.
maria zeee
Yeah, it'll turn into a very individualistic society where people basically live to work and have less children and don't have relationships with their neighbors and don't really have that much enjoyment outside of just working and making money for, I don't really know what.
elijah schaffer
Things.
maria zeee
Things.
Yeah.
And I'm basically describing the Australian cities to you.
They're already there.
elijah schaffer
It feels like that, huh?
maria zeee
Yes.
elijah schaffer
Kids aren't playing in the streets.
unidentified
No.
maria zeee
No.
Kids aren't playing in the streets.
If you go to the cities and, you know, just Sydney is one example and really inspect the.
I remember telling someone one day I was on my way to work.
I was doing some training in the city and I was on the train and I smiled at someone and they looked at me like, you know, like, what are you doing?
And so I went to the training session and I said, oh, I smiled at someone on the train today because I was in the western suburbs, right?
Where it's a lower socioeconomic community, generally nicer people, right?
And she said, I said, you know, I smiled on someone on the train and they just gave me this look and she said, oh, why would you smile at a stranger?
She was 100% serious.
This is years ago.
Can you imagine what it's like now?
I'm not saying all of Australia is like that.
I'm not saying all Australian people are like that.
I'm saying that when you feel like a stranger in your own country, that's what ends up happening.
And it's weird, right?
elijah schaffer
And I think that that's, you know, like one Australian was interviewed recently and it was like, when does when is Australia multicultural enough, right?
Like, what, and what we've never asked ourselves in the middle of becoming multicultural is, what is the end game here?
Like, if Australia has no culture, but you're bringing in other cultures, then Australia disappears.
And I don't think Australians understand that.
It's just a rock.
Like, it's just a place.
But the Australia, the name is an identity and it's a people.
It's a mixed European race of people that came.
And they've accepted several, they've accepted some people into that.
There's always been, you know, Australians love a good Japanese restaurant.
They've always loved a good curry.
And there's always been some.
But I've always said that the problem that's happening now is that even though some Japanese or Indians are noticing there is a problem, right?
They're even upset because they may have been like, okay, well, we don't want to live in India.
We don't want to live in Japan.
We want to live in white society.
We want to live in a Australian.
It's a very different version of white society than, say, the United States or Western Europe, but it's its own unique.
It's a little like the US and Europe mix, I would say, is how I describe Australia.
Traditional society.
And now, you know, you go in the streets.
I was in Sydney in the CBD and the whites were minorities.
unidentified
Yes.
elijah schaffer
And with that, there was also no culture.
There was no identity.
It was lifeless.
And it was a bunch of people just going to work.
And that's what it was.
It was like one of those rat race YouTube videos where you see the people getting in the train, getting out and moving.
And it was like, there's no soul.
Steve Irwin would be crying in his grave, right?
The nation is gone.
Do you think this is suicidal empathy?
Like, what do you think?
maria zeee
For anyone who is watching that doesn't understand how huge these migration numbers are, before I answer your question, in a six-month period, so Australia has a population or had a population of approximately 26 million people.
In a six-month period in 2024, they brought in over 700,000 migrants.
That is a colossal change in demographic.
It's, you can't, it's irreparable, right?
700,000 people in a six-month period in a population of 26 million.
That changes.
It fundamentally changes your country with no integration, with no vision of what it means to become assimilated.
There is no, what does it mean to be assimilated in Australia?
And so back to your question, what was your question again, Elijah, so I can tie the two again?
elijah schaffer
Oh, just the suicidal empathy.
Like meaning that is this, is this a suicide mission and a complete destruction of Australia as it's been traditionally known?
Because it's all out of empathy out of loving your neighbor and bringing in these people.
That's what they're selling it as.
But to me, I see it as the death of a country.
maria zeee
Yeah, it will definitely lead to that because what is a country without its people?
What is a country without its soul, its identity?
And it's just a piece of land with an economy.
Workarounds.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
So it's a, it's a, it's, it's like a, it's like going to Antarctica to do scientific work.
It's like, it's not the Antarctic, you know, culture or the Antarctic people.
It's like, that was just a scientific colony where people just conduct research.
And to me, it's also kind of weird, too, that they're there, this whole new thing in the West of bringing in a lot of Indian people.
Nobody's really questioned, you know, when you look at a country like India and you don't want your country to look like that.
Why is it that you will bring these people over with no vetting, with no understanding of who they are, who they want to be, and to do what?
To fill jobs?
Then, so we're, our entire nation is just an economy.
Like that's that our entire nation is about who can fill what job.
It's not about what are those jobs for?
They provide money for what?
For people.
People are part of what?
Families.
Families are what?
People's identity.
And then those identities make up a collective culture of food, of music, of livelihood.
And it's like, do we want that to be India?
And a lot of people say, well, that's racist.
You know, that's, it's discriminatory.
Well, it is discriminatory because discrimination is the most, is, is the oldest safety, you know, measure that we have for everything.
Look at the hearings going on in the White House.
They're discriminating against everybody from Kash Patel to RFK.
It's all discrimination.
Who are you?
What did you do?
Did you are, you know, we talked about that, Kash Patel.
Did you go on Stew Peters' show?
And he lied about it, right?
To try to deflect.
And, you know, that's about discriminating on who and what people have done.
If it matters in our government and who rules us, why does it not matter about who they're ruling?
Like, why does it not matter about the people who are making up the government and the constituency?
I feel like we've just gone mad in the West, but Australia is just like, you know, 20, 30 miles per hour faster.
They're just on a crash course to just becoming nothing and like, and almost everything at the same time, right?
It's like it's becoming this weird thing.
And I think it's deeper.
I think people are trying to destroy Australia.
I think it's an intentional destruction of a great British colony.
I don't, do you have any idea who's behind this?
maria zeee
There are a lot of players, a lot of players behind this.
And I dare say that there are a lot of financial interests that go into destroying countries when you look at the top of the food chain as far as your black rocks, your vanguards wanting to tokenize everything.
So, you know, let's tokenize all land, let's tokenize all property so that no individuals have private property rights.
Well, what does that tie into?
Well, it really ties into the greater technocratic agenda of making sure that we're ruled by algorithm and ruled by digital currency and, you know, the ultimate control system and everything app, a social credit system.
All these things that the technocrats have floated for years are sort of starting to materialize now.
And so who's who's really at the top of the top of that food chain?
I dare say if we know their names, they're not the ones at the very top of that food chain.
But you can certainly identify some of the players behind some of that.
A lot of the NGOs, I mean, some of that's getting exposed right now in the US.
Some of the NGOs that have been involved in it, I note that the illegal migration that was happening over the US border was a lot of different NGOs, one of them being a Catholic AID Society, another one Hebrew immigration society, HIAS.
So they're just two of many, by the way, many.
What are these organizations really about?
Who's established these places and who decided that this would be the purpose of the Catholic or Hebrew immigration societies?
Let's flood the US illegally.
Who gave the green light for that?
Who funded that?
Well, when you look up the food chain, generally it's all kind of tied to the international bankers.
And so I think that that plays a very, very huge role, at least in who's facilitating it, who's directing it.
Well, whoever is given the authority of the day to pretend they're running a democracy when really it's not.
It's not all these countries that we're told are democracies and not democracies.
Because when you look at, for example, the digital ID debate in Australia, when Katie Gallagher, for example, was Senator Katie Gallagher was saying, you know, my constituents are telling me that they want this.
And you look at her comments and it's got, you know, 3,000 comments, and not one is asking, not one that I could find is saying, yes, I would, I'm really glad you're bringing in digital ID.
You're talking about extreme engagement in social media, on phones, on emails.
Everyone does not want this, and yet it's still barrels ahead.
And that is what's happening in Australia.
It doesn't matter how much resistance people put up, it seems the politicians are just barreling forward with this.
So we're given the idea that they're somehow protecting democracy.
They keep doing these things that are destructive to our countries.
And we keep seeing the very opposite of democracy in play.
And that is, I see this as the result of a decades, decades-old plan to really fundamentally change the way that society is run.
The goal of the fourth industrial revolution is to destroy our current financial system, to dismantle health as we know it, to dismantle society as we know it, to implement a new algocracy is a term I learned in recent times from a gentleman I interviewed, Joe Allen, who writes a lot about singularity and technocracy and these sorts of things.
Algocracy, what people like Yuval Noah Harari say, you know, everyone's an algorithm, everything is algorithms, and whoever gets control of this technocracy, this technological age will essentially be placing themselves on the Noah's Ark.
And whoever misses out is going to be, I don't know, drowned in the flood.
Basically, the systematic destruction of every nation, I think, is really tied to this fourth industrial revolution.
Now, YouTube and others may argue that, well, that's a conspiracy.
Okay, well, what's your answer for it?
Because we're seeing the same pattern everywhere.
And the answer that they're all proposing is: let's keep moving towards digital governance.
Let's move to digital currency.
Don't worry about the fact that your society is eroding before your very eyes.
Go online to fight it.
We'll ignore your emails.
We'll ignore your phone calls.
You can talk about it online.
You'll get shadow banned for doing it, but you can talk about it online, but don't worry about the real world actions.
I mean, this is what we're living through, isn't it?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and I feel like the answer to this is so scary because the organization that people once could take in the days to fight revolutions or to respond with something that was demonstrably effective is so thwarted by a combination of early detection surveillance by the governments,
which have vastly violated this in the same way human rights and their own citizens' constitutional protective rights or God-given rights, depending on what nation you're in, with the intention of making sure they can prevent any type of uprising to this forced, just civil destruction in their country or their countries.
And I want to be careful with my wording here, but it's like they knew that it would get to a point to where people would want to be violent to stop this.
And they could stop that violence by doing twofold, by, like I said, A, detecting us into if we ever tried to organize.
And that includes, you know, infiltrating, you know, militia groups, you know, removing guns like how Australia did in 94, I think it was, right?
I think it was 94.
It was 96, but yeah, right around that time, 94, you know, preemptively planning for what was going to come to prevent violence.
But on the other hand, they've also created such social destruction and the lack of cohesion they've invested in, you know, whether it's through mass migration, illegal immigration, through these culture wars, you know, why would Biden care so much about trans issues and these things?
It's well, it's because they need the divisive and destructive conversation.
Now you have the right wing, you know, spending so much time talking about, you know, all these LGBTQ issues when the real issue is this replacement demographics he sees going on that's breaking apart any real ability to mobilize with political power.
Not that I'm discounting what Matt Walsh or Libs of TikTok, Shire Rashik have done, but it's just so much less impactful into my life, my children's lives and what we're doing than let's say stopping the immigration problem and reassessing who we allow into our countries.
And so they've made this plan so effective that it really does feel like we are sort of like, you know, obviously we're not going to be promoting violence on the show at all, but it makes something like 1776 in America seem unattainable,
you know, unattainable, because even if you came up with the idea to resist in somewhat peaceably, it feels like they would put a Fed in your group and commit an act of terrorism on behalf of your organization, you know, some false flag, and then you would be labeled a terrorist before you even thought of doing a peace flack, let alone one that was violent.
Like, you know, it seems like they're 10 steps ahead of everything because what they're doing was decades-old plan to prevent the people today from organizing successfully.
I don't know if you feel that way, but I feel a little bit defeatist in our ability to actually combat what's happening.
maria zeee
If we think about something like 1776, yes, I think, you know, I understand why you feel defeatist about that.
We live in very different times.
Again, like you echoing that I would never call for violence.
I abhor violence.
But if we look at previous revolutions in history, think about how feasible something like that would actually even be these days with the surveillance, not to mention the pre-crime software.
And for those who don't know, Argentina's already sort of implemented that or looking at implementing that on social media, basically AI trawling through everything that you say to see whether you are potentially in future going to commit a crime.
That's a pre-crime identifier.
Finally, I was asking Grok about that the other day and Grok said, well, yes, theoretically, I could be used to identify pre-crime.
So that's interesting.
And this is what the big tech, some of the big tech guys surrounding the new administration are actually invested in.
So, you know, it is concerning to see that sort of materializing in the US as well.
The reality is, Elijah, that the world is changing.
It's moving towards a more, I think the technocrats want it to move.
I'm not saying that this is where we'll end up, but I'm saying this is their vision.
They want it to move to a more sterile version of the world where human beings are replaceable.
The value of human life is redefined and we're told what matters about us.
The H-1B was actually a very good example of that, the H-1B debate.
And you raise, you know, certain points that conservatives talk about, say, the damage of some of these DEI or LGBT movements or whatever the case may be.
You know, certainly talking to children about inappropriate topics needs to stop right now.
And we get that.
But by the same token, there seems to be a reluctance to talk about something like the migration problems that have plagued countries like Australia and Canada and the UK.
And we see the results of that clear as day in front of our eyes.
UK is arresting people for, you know, saying they don't like it.
That's where it goes to.
And so why is it that conservatives will talk about certain things, but not others?
When it came to the H-1B debate, that was a very, very distinct moment for me where I will never forget the people that spoke up about that.
Because I can tell you as an Australian how much mass immigration will destroy your country.
And I cannot fathom that people would be condemning people for speaking up about that and wouldn't talk about the censorship that happened around that topic.
And that is a very good point, Elijah, because why are we allowed to now we have more freedom to talk about destructive things like DEI or the LGBT agenda?
Okay, we can more freely speak about those things, but we can't talk about mass immigration.
We get censored for that, shadow banned for that.
That's a problem.
Why?
Why?
And it is very telling.
It is very telling as to which direction this country will move in if you're not even allowed to talk about those things and you'll be punished.
Is there already a pseudo-social credit system in some areas in America?
Well, judging by that debate, yeah, there is.
So what's that all about?
And I think that we're in a very dangerous place.
The whole world is when you look to a country like America, which has the First Amendment.
And by the way, that was political speech.
So squashing it, you know, is you could argue a violation of the First Amendment, even though it's a private platform.
It was political speech, right?
So when you have such a heated, pivotal political debate going on that actually results in someone like Vivek not being part of Doge, although he says it's for different reasons.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, he's been somewhat blackballed.
Like, you know, Louis C.K., who obviously is a comedian and he was one of the big Me Too people, right?
Because he got caught, you know, wanking it in front of two coworkers or whatever.
I don't, I don't remember.
But like, you know, he's pretty shameless.
And like, I happen to be pretty honest.
And he tweeted out the other day.
He goes, I, in all my history, have seen people be canceled.
Reminding you, this guy's been canceled, right?
I have never seen someone be so canceled by one tweet than Vivek Ramaswamy after his insensitive comments on it, mass immigration.
And it's like, if the guy who's one of the poster boys of being canceled is shocked by how you got canceled, and it's not because we all freaked out.
It's because that issue is so important because we have eyes and we're seeing our northern neighbors.
People don't notice.
That's why I want to make this episode Australia because Americans aren't so keen on it.
We have our own Australia.
It's called Canada and we're in a trade war with them right now, right?
But it's Canada's had the same destruction with the housing crisis, with everything that's that it's changed on a physical level that we don't want that here.
And I think what a lot of, especially white Americans particularly are afraid to say out of fear of being seen as racist or xenophobic is the question, you know, a famous Australian recently asked this.
Why can't Australia be Australian?
Why does it have to be multicultural?
Well, because we want that.
But have you ever asked yourself why?
Well, because I'm not racist with this.
No, no, I understand because you're not.
But what is the positive?
Well, we get food or, you know, recipes.
No, We always had those.
Australia, I went to a Japanese restaurant.
It was a Japanese restaurant since 1952, you know, before they even lost the White Australia policy.
Like, no, Let's, we always had recipes.
People can cook other recipes.
Let's not talk.
It's not really legal to import a curry recipe.
Why, why, why do we want to be multicultural?
Not even multi-ethnic.
But obviously, ethnicity and cultural are related.
But why do we need multiple cultures in a geographic area?
Why do we want to be Chinese and Indian when Indians do not want to be Australian and Chinese don't want to be Australian?
Why do we want to be Indian and Chinese?
And a lot of people can't answer that.
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Maria Z, we're talking about this.
Why?
Why do people want our West to be to be multicultural?
What have you seen are the negative effects from mass migration and multiculturalism in Australia in terms of living crisis, in terms of the housing crisis?
What's happened in the last several decades?
maria zeee
Well, there are Australian families on the street homeless because of the housing crisis.
You go to apply for a property to rent.
You have dozens and dozens of people that turn up.
For some reason, a lot of the time, the preference is given to migrants.
I guess the real estate agencies must be incentivized for things like that.
I'm not certain about that, but I'm just thinking about how this usually works.
You have, you know, for example, when you look at the DEI agenda, there's an incentive.
When you look at, you know, pushing certain things, there's an incentive.
So there must be some sort of an incentive to be doing that.
Otherwise, why would you pick migrants of any sort over your own people?
Maybe they're told that if they pick, if they, if they don't pick migrants, they'll be seen as racist.
Maybe they have that implied sort of in their subconscious.
I don't know.
The reality is that there are Australian families living in tents.
And there was one particular family.
I remember they were struggling so much financially, and they just said, Right, we're going to buy a caravan and have it on my mother's property or on a family member's property, rather.
And they tried to tell them they're not allowed to do that.
It's like you're not allowed to even have your own solutions.
It's so overly policed, so overly governed that you can't even figure out a way to just live free.
Okay, I'll live in a tiny little caravan, me and my family, to just be done with all this nonsense in the system.
No, sorry, you can't.
You've got to be part of the system, the part of the system that makes you homeless.
Like, it's that bad.
And so, I, again, I just, I just really am concerned, Elijah, when places like America can learn.
First of all, I don't think Australia is screwed and it's never coming back, right?
I don't think that, but places like America can learn following that H-1B debate and the aggressive response from both Vivek and Mask on that.
Um, really, really look at countries that have already experimented with this and see how much it's destroyed them.
And wonder if that's what you want in your own country as well.
And it's never really the skilled migrants, as it isn't here, by the way.
It's a skilled migrant for a fast cook, you know, things like that.
elijah schaffer
Teachers, 7-Eleven, you know, 7-Eleven counter person.
I don't even know.
Like, that's what they're doing.
A Taco Bell, a manager of Taco Bells.
Like, you can't find someone who wants $120,000 in the U.S. to manage a Taco Bell.
I don't believe that.
maria zeee
Yeah, it's crazy.
And so, part of the reason I'm what I really want people to take away from this, if you're, if you're watching from America, understand that you can look to the mistakes of the other Western nations to preserve your country and make sure it doesn't head in that direction.
And then, in turn, the other Western nations can look to the U.S. and say, right, well, if they can do it, if they can be America first, if they can be pro their constitution, if they can find leaders that they can hold to account and find and push for a system or at least some leadership, not all is perfect.
I'm not saying they all are, but at least some leaders that will listen to them.
Maybe we can have that in our own countries too.
And then people have got to come back to that place, but also fight locally within their local communities to preserve that.
Make those really, really strong.
Like the U.S. has some of that.
They really do.
You know, local communities that depend on one another, that in a crisis will turn to one another.
They have relationships with, you know, sheriffs and local law enforcement and lower-level legislators.
That needs to really happen more and more as people are finding themselves to be completely discontent with this whole system that's in uniform rolling out around the world.
They need to start from the bottom up because going to the head of the snake just doesn't work, it seems.
And so I think building relationships locally with your local legislators and making differences locally will have a flow and effect eventually.
I don't know what other solution there is.
elijah schaffer
We're all moving to Queensland, is what it is.
The real Australians are just moving to Queensland to get away from all of this.
maria zeee
Like here in Texas, right?
elijah schaffer
Right.
So when you see the price, that's what's happening.
So then everyone moves to Queensland to Brisbane and to the Gold Coast and or, you know, or the northern rivers or whatever in New South Wales.
And all of a sudden, you know, those are taken down.
So then they go down to Port Macquarie, you know, to go somewhere even more rural.
And now homes are still a million dollars there because everyone's trying to just escape and there's nowhere to escape to.
And once again, it's become a prison.
Australia has become a prison.
There's still places to escape to here in the United States.
You know, we, we still, you know, we're moving our operations to Tennessee because it's just so expensive here.
And it's, it's, it's a little bit like that here in West Palm Beach, a little bit like the Australian vibe where everyone's got money and they drive McLaren's and Rolls-Royce's and stuff, but the kids aren't in the streets, right?
And they're not, they're not, they're not playing and they're not praying, um, at least not to Jesus in a Boca Batone.
You know, that being said, you know, there's so much more we could cover, but I think it's more important that people realize that, you know, this show is not supposed to be Joe Rogan.
It's not supposed to be copying anybody.
It's supposed to be what was my original intention back in the day where I've always just wanted a show to sit down and talk to interesting people about interesting topics.
And whether they are political or not, it's about what's important to the people because the people have been forgotten.
And I think you're one of the more amazing and talented hosts out there who you do so much even beyond the show that we talked about in the beginning.
But I want you to tell people, you know, I know you do two things.
You do some stuff with the network.
You do some stuff also.
You know, we work together on some stuff.
I know that you also do your own program, which is fantastic.
So if people want to keep up with you and follow you, and I know people will be convinced here, please tell us, how can we watch your show and hear from your perspective?
Because you have such a global mindset, but yet you're so nationally focused about the individuals in the West and what matters.
How can we find and keep up with your work?
maria zeee
Yeah, absolutely.
People can follow me on Rumble, ZEEE Media.
That's where we upload all of our interviews.
We do a lot of interviews with a range of different experts, whether it be geopolitical, medical, science, emerging technologies, AI, biotech, all of that.
That I think a lot of people are really behind in knowledge on.
So I encourage people to follow and really get up to date on some of those things.
We try to be at the forefront of this stuff.
Things that most, you know, conservative, big, the bigger conservative media outlets don't really even touch on.
I'm not saying it's on purpose or not.
I'm just saying it's things that a lot of people need to understand and still don't.
So Rumble, ZEEE Media, and also you can follow us on X at ZEEE underscore media.
And our website, zmedia.com, is where all of our content is posted, no matter where we're contributing to.
And weekly media blackout with Vigilant News and Vigilant Fox collabing there.
It's been an amazing, amazing time.
We've been doing it for over a year now.
Sundays at 6 p.m.
But yeah, our interviews come out several a week and we encourage people to watch them and really understand which way the world's heading.
elijah schaffer
Amazing.
Maria, it's been so fantastic having you on.
I hope you've enjoyed this time to just sit down and talk because everything's so video clip focused and stories.
These are just meant to be conversations that we can have that can stand the test of time.
People can watch today, tomorrow, can watch a year from now, and maybe hopefully things have changed, right?
And that's always the hope.
My hope is that things have changed, but I don't know what the way we're going.
If in every country, they'll change for the better.
For now, we will hope and pray for Australia and for our friends down under that God would give them grace and faith, especially in a time where less and less people there believe in God or even find it to be something serious.
To those of you guys watching at home, whether you're listening, by the time this comes out, just a reminder that we now have an audio-only version of this show.
I'm not entirely sure at the time this is released if it's on Spotify, Apple, iTunes, or everywhere.
But you will find a link down below where you can follow the show and audio.
You guys have been requesting this extensively, as well as writing me emails, just being like, please, this is a very good audio-only type of show.
And I agree with you.
And you just want to be able to turn it on while you're trucking or whatever, and you don't have the data.
So it is available audio only.
And I'm going to ask you guys as you leave, please go leave a five-star review on the show.
It is so incredible.
And by the next show, after this, we're going to start reading a couple of the reviews at the end of every show.
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You can use an anonymous name as well.
Please go ahead and leave that five-star review on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play Store, wherever we get approved and wherever we're going at the time.
It helps so much more than you could think.
And it's a free way.
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Maybe you don't need the sponsor or locals that you're like, how can I help contribute?
Follow Maria, number one.
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Thank you guys so much again for watching another episode of Almost Serious.
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