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The TRUTH About WORLD WAR II | Guest: Ron Unz
After Candace Owens’ firing from The Daily Wire, Candace has been diving deep into a variety of topics that are otherwise unacceptable to be touched by the mainstream. Usually, the narrative is boiled down to: Hitler evil. But, when multiple world powers are embroiled in a global conflict, surely there’s a lot more to the story, correct?Show more Ron Unz of The Unz Report joins us for tonight’s Censored show to discuss the TRUTH about WORLD WAR II!
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We're demonetized everywhere, and your support directly helps the show not only remain on the air, but allow us to do special episodes just like this, which are not only too hot for YouTube, apparently they're too hot for the entire mainstream right on X. I'm Elijah Schaefer, and tonight's special episode is an in-depth intellectual conversation with what I would call a historian, commentator, and absolutely exquisite and excellent author, Ron Uns.
Now, as we get into this discussion, we're going to be asking the question about the truth of World War II.
The reason why is, is I'm a little bit retarded, and I was educated.
Both I went to public school, went to private school, but I was homeschooled most of my life.
And even that didn't save me from learning a very skewed version of history.
Recently, Candace Owens came out bringing some great questions, asking the truth about what really happened and the West's true history, where she was combated directly by Ben Shapiro and others saying, how dare you ask questions, you black slave?
Get back on the plantation.
Now, they didn't say that, but they did say that we're bad people for wanting to know reality.
But if JFK even famously said in his journal that perhaps the opinions on Hitler would change in the next century, it begs the question, what actually happened?
What are they hiding?
And what went on in World War II?
I'm hoping this is a comprehensive, condensed version of the truth about our history.
It's approximately 10.05 or 10.03 p.m. Eastern Time in the United States.
You know what, Ron, if you want to just give us a little background on who you are, for people that are not familiar with you, I think most would recognize your face.
Someone's probably seen a clip of yours or seen an interview on a show.
But just assuming that we all are a little bit mentally handicapped and are new to the show, who is Ron and what do you do?
Well, my background originally was in theoretical physics, but about 35 years ago, I wandered into the software business and I ended up being involved in software for really quite a number of years.
And more recently, the last 20, 25 years, I've been very heavily involved in public policy issues.
And, you know, as things went by, I really ended up doing a lot of exploration on history, the history of the last hundred years, and gradually discovered that much of what I'd always believed was really wrong was very different than what actually happened.
Well, I mean, there's certainly a lot of truth in there, but there are an awful lot of lies and distortions.
And, you know, again, I had a really very conventional view of the history of the last hundred years.
You know, I went to college.
I, you know, did a lot of reading and I, you know, basically believed what pretty much everybody else believed from, you know, the books, from the textbooks, from the media that I absorbed.
One of the key turning points in my understanding of this period came, well, I mean, there were really a couple of them.
But, you know, obviously in the aftermath of the 9-11 attacks and the Iraq war, I was really just shocked that the weapons of mass destruction never existed.
And, you know, it was simply a hoax concocted by the media.
And so that started making me much more suspicious about the things that I believed and absorbed from the media.
But a key turning point came around that same time.
I ended up getting involved in a project to digitize the archives of the main American publications, opinion magazines of the last 150 or 200 years.
You know, just basically the key publications, the Atlantic Monthly, Harper's, The New Republic, The Nation, you know, all these leading influential publications.
And what I gradually discovered as I was digitizing and occasionally looking at the articles is that so many of the things that they reported from those periods were very, very different than what I've ever believed.
So it's not a question of, you know, fringe publications.
It's a question of some of the leading most influential publications of the United States, the most respectable, highest regarded publications, saying things about events at the time they occurred that were very, very different than what I'd ever assumed in the history books.
And, you know, as I started then digging into the material, you know, along with the internet, obviously once the internet came along, more and People began encountering ideas and claims that were very different than what they'd ever received from the media.
I gradually really started realizing that so much of what I'd ever been told about some of the leading events of the last hundred years, especially the Second World War, many of the other things from the 1950s, 1940s, 1930s, were entirely different than what I'd ever assumed.
And that really caused me eventually about seven or eight years ago to get started writing a series of articles trying to dig into those historical events and show that much of what we'd always been taught was really the equivalent of American pravda, you know, in many ways no different than the old pravda of the Soviet Union, which taught a very skewed version, obviously, of Soviet history, which all of us laughed at at the time.
But, you know, much of what we've really received in our history books through the mainstream media is almost as dishonest and distorted about American history as what Pravda had been about Soviet history.
So let's start here with modern history, because there's a lot of tension right now, as you've seen.
We'll talk a little bit about the Holocaust later, some of the Israeli influence in our country, things that are current events that maybe influenced or depend on a certain interpretation of history in order to maintain their power structure.
But that's not the whole focus of today.
We want to start with World War II here, which is my greatest question.
Obviously, I was trained, like all people, that, you know, there was a genocidal man named Adolf Hitler, the most evil man that possibly ever existed, whose sole purpose was to dominate Europe, kill all the blacks, minorities, Jews, and disabled, but we only focus on the Jews.
And luckily for us, because of the brave men that went and fought the war, we defeated the evil Nazis, and life has been good because of that one reason.
So I want to begin here, because this seems to be where you're not allowed to ask questions.
And I'm only really doing this episode because Ben Shapiro said that we are bad for asking questions.
I mean, the whole thing about it is the Second World War is probably the single most important event in human history, the largest global struggle.
I mean, 50, 60 million people died.
It really set, it really was the foundation of the modern world that we live in.
And what I gradually discovered is I dug into the history of the time, the accounts of the time, and also started then reading many of the history books written by top scholars in the last 50 or 60 years.
The whole history of the Second World War is almost entirely inverted.
It's upside down and backwards.
And I've written a number of articles pointing that out.
I mean, the whole thing about it is Adolf Hitler, again, I mean, he certainly was a dictator, certainly ran Germany in a ruthless way.
But he, according to leading scholars, was very making every effort to avoid war.
And again, it's not only fringe people saying that.
One book that I'd very highly recommend to everybody is The Origins of the Second World War by A.J.P. Taylor.
Now, A.J.P. Taylor was one of the leading British historians of the last hundred years, a top scholar at Oxford University.
And when his book came out in, I think it was 1961, it was widely praised across all the elite media.
I mean, the Washington Post, the New York Times, all the leading publications described it as a classic work, one of the most important works on the history of the Second World War.
And what A.J.P. Taylor simply did was look at the facts.
I mean, you know, again, the war had ended 15, 16 years earlier.
And he simply said, it's an entire myth that Adolf Hitler wanted the Second World War to take place.
In other words, what Hitler was trying to do, in the aftermath of the First World War, Germany had been mutilated.
In other words, large sections of Germany had been broken off and given to other countries around Europe.
And what Hitler was trying to do was simply to reunify Germany as much as possible.
He'd already been successful.
For example, Austria was merged back into Germany.
I mean, Austria had been part of the German, the Holy Roman Empire, the German Holy Roman Empire, for almost a thousand years.
And then it was broken off.
It was a small little country.
And the people of Austria, I think when the referendum later on was taken, something like 95 or 98% of them wanted to become part of the Germany that Hitler was establishing because Hitler had managed to re-establish prosperity in his country, whereas nearly every other country in the world, certainly including the United States, was still gripped by the Great Depression.
So in other words, Germany was widely regarded as one of the most successful countries in the world in that period of time.
And Hitler was on the cover of Time magazine as man of the year.
I mean, he was very widely praised by a lot of other people around the world.
So the whole point about it is the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia, which was an overwhelmingly German area, was brought into unity with Germany.
Austria, again, almost entirely German, was brought together with Germany.
And Hitler had recovered the Rhineland, which had been seized, which was demilitarized, Tsar, that sort of thing.
And what Hitler's last effort was, was to basically recover Danzig and reunify Danzig with Germany.
Now, Danzig was a city that was 95% German.
It was controlled by Poland.
It had been given, actually, it was an independent city, but it was basically dominated by Poland in the aftermath of the First World War.
And, you know, basically, what Hitler wanted to do was simply regain Danzig and bring it into part of Germany, which virtually the entire population of Danzig wanted.
Now, in the aftermath of the First World War, the principle that had been established was that nation states were the proper foundation for Europe.
In other words, the idea was that the previous empires, for example, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the German Empire, the Turkish Empire, were broken apart.
And the idea was that countries should be based on single nations, single population, single ethnic groups.
And so what Hitler wanted to do was simply apply that same principle to Germany by bringing in Danzig, as well as, you know, had been applied to all these other countries.
So, you know, we're talking about basically what was the equivalent of a minor border dispute over a city that was 95% German, had been part of Germany for a thousand years, and Hitler wanted to simply regain and unify with Germany, just like the people in Danzig wanted.
Now, you know, under normal circumstances, Hitler had actually had very good relations with Marshal Pilsutsky, who was the dictator running Poland.
But Pilsutsky had died several years earlier.
And the current leadership of Poland really had grandiose ideas.
In other words, they believed that they were militarily stronger than Germany.
And certainly with the backing of France and Britain, they would, they believe, be able to defeat Germany in the war and, you know, basically create a sort of Polish mini-empire in that area.
And so, you know, Hitler spent six months attempting to negotiate with Poland over the return of Danzig.
He actually made offers to Poland that no previous German leader under the Weimar Republic had dared to make.
In other words, he was willing to concede the loss of all these heavily German territories that had been gained by Poland.
He was willing, for example, to allow Poland to keep those areas and to support Poland in building a port on the sea so that Poland would have access to the sea as they wanted.
And so basically, he gave Poland every possible concession, but the Poles refused to negotiate.
And furthermore, they ended up, they'd really been oppressing the heavily ethnic German population of Poland.
I believe Poland was probably at that point something like 8% or 10% ethnic German, and mistreating the Germans.
And in some cases, I mean, there had been ethnic clashes.
Individual ethnic Germans had been killed.
And so the point was basically the Poles made every effort to provoke a war with Germany because that was the policy that was being supported by Britain, to some extent France, and certainly by the United States.
In other words, basically, America and Britain were doing everything they could to try to provoke a war with Germany so that they could paint Germany as the aggressor and basically defeat Germany and overthrow Hitler.
And the whole thing about it is, you know, again, these are not controversial statements.
These are things that you can find in the books written by the most reputable scholars, books that have been very widely praised by the top American media outlets of the 1960s and 1950s.
But you simply wouldn't find that in the history books written in the last 20 or 30 years, because there's really been the equivalent of a sort of clampdown on all of these issues.
So that the story that most people are being told is simply a very distorted one.
Take, for example, another author that I'd only had a vague idea of, someone David Irving.
I mean, David Irving, arguably, is the most successful British author of the last 100 years, British historian of the last 100 years, with probably Arnold Toynbee being the only possible rival he would have.
Irving's book sold in the millions, and he was widely praised as, you know, producing a sort of foundational primary source account of the history of the Second World War and all the prominent figures in it.
But because Irving was unwilling to toe the line, his career was wrecked, he was destroyed, he was purged, and he's now become essentially an unperson in the mid-1980s.
In fact, One point, about 15 or 20 years ago, he was even imprisoned in an Austrian jail.
He was sent to prison in Austria and was at some risk of spending the rest of his life in an Austrian prison.
And he spent a year, then he was able to, you know, get out because of, you know, some legal issues.
But I mean, the whole point about it is what I'm portraying as a more accurate version of the Second World War is something that I think would be very difficult to dispute if anybody simply took the time of reading the primary source documents,
reading the publications in America and Britain and other countries at the time the war was breaking out, or even reading the history books written by people like A.J.B. Taylor or David Irving or the other leading historians of that era.
So, you know, again, I don't think there can be much dispute over these facts.
But the fact that they've been presented over the decades and the last few decades in a very distorted, misleading way is the reason that probably until at least the internet came along, virtually no Americans or Westerners would have been aware of these facts.
Well, and it does feel like that, because I do have two questions here based on what you said.
If you're just joining the stream or if you've, for some reason, checked out, we are talking about the provocation of the war.
You know, obviously the contingent argument that Hitler is evil largely rests on two factors, that he provoked a world war out of his hatred either for Western democracy or liberal democracy.
And number two, his systematic extermination of Jews in the Holocaust.
These are two of the most widely taught and most widely assumed stances, even being parroted by Jeremy Boring.
I don't know if he's the current CEO of Daily Wire, but as long as many of the prominent right-wing commentators.
So if you're saying that the U.S., France, and Britain were sort of pushing this anti-German sentiment in Poland, it's not hard for me to believe that, Ron, because we do that today, right?
At the detriment of many countries.
People say, why would they do this if Poland could get invaded?
I don't know.
Ask Libya, ask Yemen, ask Iraq, ask Syria.
The U.S. has no problem provoking policies that end up leading to the destruction of other countries.
But I don't understand why would Britain and France and the United States want to provoke a war with Hitler and overthrow him?
And I say this, if it wasn't that they believed his entire idea was to dominate Europe and take over, what is the purpose of that provocation?
Okay, the central figure, and this is actually something that I found through my digitizing the archives.
It turns out, you know, Franklin Roosevelt had come to power at the point, you know, in 1932, he had become president of the United States.
And unfortunately, his economic policies had failed.
In other words, the Great Depression was still, America was still in the grips of the Great Depression in 1937.
And Roosevelt had basically been re-elected, but he was facing a very difficult political situation.
And in fact, unemployment by 1937, shortly after his re-election, was just as high in America as it had been when he'd first come into office several years earlier.
So he faced a very difficult struggle.
Now, it turns out what he ended up was his aides, what he and his aides decided to do at the time was that the only way to bring America out of the Great Depression was a war, provoking a war, starting a war and getting America involved in a war.
And that's something which, I mean, it's really quite shocking.
I was reading, for example, the New Republic.
One of the leading progressive columnists in America, who'd been a strong supporter of Roosevelt, was a man named John T. Flynn, top columnist in America, top economic columnist in the New Republic and a lot of other publications, a very influential figure.
In late 1937, he told his audience, the readers of his column, that he was shocked that he'd been told by the top aides to Franklin Roosevelt when he'd probably met them at a Christmas party or something like that, that they had the solution for America's economic problems.
The solution was basically to start a war, to get America involved in war.
And military Keynesianism would be the way that America would be brought out of the Great Depression.
Just like, for example, America had been facing very difficult economic times right before the First World War broke out.
But once the First World War broke out, the tremendous spending on munitions caused a wave of prosperity in the United States.
And Roosevelt felt he could do the same thing.
Now, the ironic thing is at the time, he was more thinking of provoking a war with the Japanese over Latin American interests.
In other words, he thought he would be able to spend a lot of money building up our naval fleets and then start a war with Japan over that.
But then after, for example, Kristallnacht, and after basically Hitler had gotten very, the Jewish interests in Europe and in the United States had become incredibly hostile to Hitler over the riots, the anti-Jewish riots in Germany.
At that point, Roosevelt then refocused his attention on provoking a war with Germany rather than provoking a war with Japan.
But the key thing Roosevelt was looking for was to simply get America involved in a war so that he could drag America out of the Great Depression.
Now, at the same time, and this is something utterly shocking that very few people are aware of, the situation in Britain was that various Jewish groups and Jewish interests, as well as the Czechs, were extremely hostile to Hitler because Hitler had sort of pushed the Jews out of the central economic position that they gained in Germany.
Now, Germany was 99% German and only 1% Jewish.
But the Jewish groups in the aftermath of the Great Depression and the collapse of the German economy had been able to gain a tremendous share of Germany's wealth, probably somewhere in the range of 20% or 30% or even possibly a third of all the wealth in Germany was in the hands of the 1% Jewish population, which dominated the political system.
So Hitler, being a German nationalist, came to power.
He won elected office, and he gradually started pushing the Jews out of the economic position that they held in Germany, which obviously the Jews tremendously resented.
And so what Jewish groups in Britain ended up doing was in support of their fellow Jews in Germany, they ended up basically bribing the top political leadership of much of the conservative party in Britain to support a war against Germany.
Now, again, that sounds incredibly shocking.
And that was probably the key revelation in some of David Irving's books, especially his biography of Churchill.
For example, Churchill was an important political figure in Britain, but he had very, very little wealth relative to very expensive tastes.
For example, Churchill had an estate.
He had an army of 30 or 40 servants, aides, butlers, maids.
I mean, just an army of servants, and he couldn't afford to pay for them.
So, for example, what Churchill ended up doing was losing a lot of his money in bad investments and losing a lot of money in the stock market.
In 1937, he almost was at the point of having to put his entire state up for sale.
But he was rescued by an organization called the Focus, which was a primarily but not entirely Jewish activist organization was set up, backed by some of the wealthiest Jews in Britain, who ended up basically funding Churchill.
I mean, they gave Churchill the equivalent of millions of dollars into his own pocket to basically support his standard of living in return for Churchill becoming, in effect, their political puppet.
Interestingly enough, that was then discovered.
And the same thing also happened with the Czechs.
For example, Czechoslovakia had been carved out of Germany.
And so Czechoslovakia was very concerned that as Germany reestablished its position in Central Europe, Czechoslovakia, the German areas of Czechoslovakia would be forced to, you know, would be allowed to rejoin Germany.
And so the Czechs, for example, again, poured millions of dollars of what amounted to bribery money into the political system of Britain to try to gain the support of as many British political figures as possible.
And Churchill, for example, was able to find some of the underlying documents proving that.
Some of the diaries, some of the other materials.
Sorry, David Irving was able to prove that.
So what ended up happening was a substantial number of the key political figures in both the Liberal Party, the Labour Party, and the Conservative Party in Britain were on a foreign payroll, which, I mean, is about the closest, the most obvious example of treason you can imagine.
If we're talking about the top political leaders of a country or important political leaders of the country, members of parliament, even in some cases, cabinet ministers, receiving millions or in some cases, tens of millions of equivalent dollars of foreign money in exchange for supporting the interests of that foreign country.
I mean, that's just an outrageous situation.
And, you know, if we look at, for example, the current situation in Europe and, you know, the war, for example, between Russia and Ukraine, I mean, what I'm saying may sound outrageous and may sound impossible.
But in some respects, it's a very similar situation to Ukraine.
And, for example, Ukraine, some of the corporations, they're putting members of Joseph Biden's family on their payroll and giving millions of dollars to Biden family members in exchange for the support of Joseph Biden for their policies against Russia.
So in other words, it's really shocking how close an analogy we find between Hitler, Germany, and the situation of Europe leading up to the Second World War and the situation with Vladimir Putin, Russia, and Ukraine.
Right now, the war going on in Europe.
So it's basically the whole thing about it is the French, for example, were very reluctant to get involved in the war.
I mean, they really were the ones probably least interested in getting involved.
The British had mixed feelings about it, but a lot of the pressure was coming from Franklin Roosevelt and the United States, since FDR was simply looking for some war that could get America out of its Great Depression.
And for example, if you read the diary entries of, for example, James Forrestal, who was our first Secretary of Defense, the diary entries and the documents, the secret documents of the Polish ambassador to the United States, other Polish leaders, all of those documents then came out later, and they basically make exactly that point, that Franklin Roosevelt, FDR, was the individual pushing for war more than anybody else because of these economic problems.
And, you know, as I said, James T. Flynn was told in 1937 by top Roosevelt aides that Roosevelt may be facing serious economic problems because of the Great Depression, but he would be able to get out of his political box by getting America involved in a war.
And the military Keynesianism that resulted would successfully save America's economy.
And that's exactly what happened.
So in other words, when we're talking about Franklin Roosevelt's aides telling one of the top political columnists in America what their plan was and exactly that happening over the next year, I mean,
the combination of those factors, the diary entries, the secret intelligence documents of the Polish ambassador and other Polish leaders, I mean, all of it comes together and it all supports a very clear version of history that's entirely different than the history version we've been told in all the history books.
So basically, I'm not saying Hitler was entirely without any blame on the subject, but I mean, basically, of all the key participants involved, Hitler was probably the one least interested in a war breaking out and most willing to make the most extreme concessions to try to prevent any war breaking out.
But since Hitler lost the war, the history books have all said exactly the opposite.
So in regards to that, I kind of want to talk about, you know, we talked a lot about Poland, Czechoslovakia.
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Ron, I want to talk, though, about the other theaters then.
This is where I'm confused a little bit.
So we know about the Polish side and trying to reunite the Danzig, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, and unify the people.
But obviously, Germany invaded France.
Germany attacked.
They blitzed England.
What was the point of the move west into Europe and the bombings and the attacks on the British?
Because, like, I do want to hear your side of things, but I have seen some propaganda from Joseph Goebbels, like kind of predicting that France would become this sort of like violent, minority-infested place that it is today.
They're kind of like predicting it become this violent place with a bunch of like North Africans.
Unfortunately, that actually came true.
So what the hell was going on there?
And why, if Germany really wanted peace, would he, yeah, would he march into Paris, which is by far one of the strongest forces that they play in school, showing us that indeed Hitler was evil and French were victims.
I mean, basically, when Germany and Poland got into a war, in other words, when Germany finally, after six months of attempted negotiation, gave up and ended up moving into Poland and fighting Poland, France and Britain then declared war against Germany.
In other words, Hitler had thought that they probably wouldn't, or at least he had hoped that they wouldn't.
And then afterwards, they declared war against Germany.
So at that point, they were at war.
Hitler then made every effort to end the war.
In other words, Hitler offered to restore most of Poland, you know, keeping Danzig and a couple of the other areas.
And he certainly had no interest in keeping the war going with France and Britain.
But France and Britain felt, just as in the case of the First World War, using their blockade, they could gradually subdue Germany.
In other words, they controlled the seas.
They felt that, you know, using a blockade of Germany, they should starve the Germans into surrender.
Now, what ended up happening was, you know, Germany then, being at war with France and, you know, France and Britain refusing to, you know, end the war, finally, then Germany attacked France and successfully defeated them and occupied them.
Now, you know, at that point, again, Germany thought the war was over.
In other words, you know, these three countries had declared war against Germany.
Germany had defeated Poland, Germany defeated France.
And certainly Germany, you know, would be willing to restore France and then make peace with Britain.
But, and in fact, it's interesting that Churchill actually seemed very interested.
I mean, the fact that, for example, the British, the Allies had been defeated, and everybody thought, in a sense, the war was over.
The French army at that point was much larger and better equipped than the German army.
So it was a gigantic shock when the Germans successfully defeated the France and occupied Paris and that sort of thing.
Now, the whole thing about it is Churchill had come to power just right at the point when France had been defeated.
So if Churchill then had made peace with Britain, with Germany, it would have been a tremendous humiliation.
In other words, Churchill basically had been somebody who'd been seeking the prime ministership his entire career.
In fact, the whole thing about it is Churchill came to power and successfully became prime minister because of the German victory in Norway.
Now, it turns out the British had been planning to invade Normand in order to cut off the supply of iron ore to Britain.
The Germans realized what they were doing, moved more quickly and successfully, even though the British had a much stronger military naval force, ended up successfully occupying Norway and defeating the British expeditionary force there.
So again, Hitler offered Britain the most generous terms you could possibly imagine.
Britain would suffer no losses.
They would be allies afterwards, and he would even guarantee the British Empire.
In other words, he would be willing to commit German troops to protect the safety, the solidity of the British Empire.
The only reason Britain didn't accept that offer was that Churchill basically would have had the humiliation of coming to power and then suddenly having to make peace with a lost war against the Germans.
So in other words, what Churchill then did was to ensure that nobody in Britain became aware of these tremendously generous German terms, because there would have been widespread willingness to accept those terms.
Furthermore, Churchill was still then under pressure because as the war, as basically the war dragged on and nobody thought that Germany could possibly be defeated, there was a sense of more and more British.
Why are we fighting this lost war?
Why are we continuing it?
So Churchill's idea then was to try to get the Germans to launch a bombing attack against Britain.
Because, I mean, Hitler had actually made it very clear that under no circumstances would he attack civilian targets in Britain with his air power.
So what Churchill ended up doing then was launching repeated military raids, bombing raids against Berlin, deliberately attacking for weeks at a time civilian targets, urban centers in Germany, in hopes of forcing them Hitler to retaliate.
And that's exactly what happened.
In other words, after repeated warnings to the British that if the British continued bombing German cities, the Germans would then retaliate and begin bombing British cities.
That's exactly what the Germans ultimately did.
And since nobody in Britain was aware, you know, outside of the military, was aware that the Germans had had their cities repeatedly bombed by British attacks for days and weeks at a time before Hitler was finally willing to retaliate.
They believed when the Germans then launched these retaliatory attacks, it was simply the evil Germans attacking British civilian targets.
And so that was basically part of Churchill's strategy to mobilize the forces of his own country to continue the war against Germany, which otherwise made no sense whatsoever.
Now, the other interesting thing about it, and this is something, again, these are facts I can tell you that virtually nobody in your audience probably would be aware of, virtually nobody in America is aware of, even though it's absolutely well known to academic scholars who have followed the thing.
At the time Germany attacked France, because the two countries were aware and occupied Paris, the Allies, the British and the French, were on the very verge of launching a sudden attack against the Soviet Union.
In other words, at that point, they regarded the Soviet Union as an ally of Germany and a relatively weak ally.
So they believed that if they launched a massive bombing attack against the Soviet oil fields in Baku, they could successfully destroy the Soviet oil industry and therefore bring Germany to its knees because they believed wrongly that Germany was getting most of its oil from Russia, from the Soviet Union.
So in other words, if Germany had not attacked France and successfully attacked France when they did, if Hitler had simply waited a few weeks and attacked a little bit later, the British and the French would have launched an attack against the Soviet Union and brought the Soviets into the war on the German side.
Now, the Soviets and the Germans together would have been far, far stronger than the Allies.
And in other words, there's no way Hitler could have lost the war under those circumstances.
And it's just that part of history, which is absolutely well known, because the Germans captured all the documents, all the secret documents they published at the time.
It was well known to every mainstream scholar in the early years of the Second World War.
And in fact, it's now known.
I mean, basically, the documents are there and they've certainly been reviewed.
Academic scholarly texts have been written on it.
But virtually nobody in America is aware that the Allies were on the very verge of attacking the Soviet Union when the Germans successfully occupied Paris, you know, invaded and occupied Paris.
So in other words, there are all these elements of the Second World War that are totally unknown.
Another example, and this is something not quite as well documented, but probably true.
There's probably 70 to 80% chance it's true.
People ask why Hitler attacked the Soviet Union, why he invaded Russia in Barbarossa in 1941, because if he hadn't done that, he probably would have, people say, won the war.
Now, it turns out at that point in time, Stalin had assembled a gigantic army of invasion and was on the very verge of invading and conquering all of Europe when Hitler struck first.
I mean, for example, people don't realize that the point the Germans invaded the Soviet Union in 1941, the Soviets not only had more tanks than the Germans did, the Soviets had many times more tanks than every other country in the world combined.
They had a gigantic military air force.
They outnumbered the Germans several to one, and they'd assembled their gigantic armies on the border of the Soviet Union, preparing for an invasion and conquest of Germany, France, the entire continent, and Britain.
So if not for Hitler's attack against the Soviet Union, probably all of Europe would have been conquered by the Soviet armies of invasion.
And again, you know, it's the sort of thing.
So much of the history of the Second World War is entirely upside down and backwards.
And if you read any of the main texts, if you listen to the scholarly reports on this, I mean, you get a very different view of things than if you simply follow the mainstream media.
So, I mean, you know, again, the entire circumstances of how the war started, how it developed, who the key participants were, and why the war took the route that it did, is extremely different than most people are taught.
Or take, for example, Pearl Harbor attack.
It's very solidly documented that the whole reason for Pearl Harbor was that Franklin Roosevelt had been unsuccessful in getting the Germans to declare war against the United States.
In other words, basically, Roosevelt had been providing huge munitions to the British and the French.
In other words, you know, basically all the weapons of war.
Roosevelt had also ordered his destroyers and his ships to attack German U-boats to try to provoke Hitler into declaring war against the United States.
But Hitler was very reluctant to do so.
So at that point, Roosevelt came up with the idea of trying then to provoke the Japanese to attack the United States and declare war.
feeling that under those circumstances, that would then force the Germans to come into the war against the United States.
And in fact, I mean, again, there are diaries, there are documented, there are documents of, you know, meetings of the top American leadership.
It's very clear America was doing absolutely everything it could to provoke the Japanese refusing to negotiate with the Japanese.
And in fact, there's quite a lot of evidence.
It's not absolutely certain, but it seems quite likely that Roosevelt knew that the Japanese were about to attack Pearl Harbor.
We'd broken all of the Japanese codes.
And he deliberately refused to inform his top military commanders in Pearl Harbor that a Japanese attack was on the way.
Because he felt that if he informed them, the defensive measures that they would take would then probably cause the Japanese not to attack, to call off the attack.
And that would ruin his entire plan to basically bring Germany and Japan into a war against the United States.
So in other words, it seems very likely that Roosevelt sacrificed, deliberately sacrificed the lives of all the American servicemen who died at Pearl Harbor simply to ensure that America would be able to get into the war.
And, you know, with enough American casualties, we would have a situation where the entire American people would be unified behind Roosevelt for the war.
Now, what a lot of people don't realize was that the polls at that time showed that 80% of the American public was opposed to involvement in the Second World War.
That's the reason the only hope Roosevelt had of getting America involved was to either provoke the Germans or provoke the Japanese into declaring war or striking first.
And that's the story of Pearl Harbor.
So in other words, it's very different than what most Americans have been taught for 70, 80 years.
But I mean, it's very clear that Roosevelt was doing absolutely everything he could to provoke the Japanese into attacking.
And it seems very likely that he actually knew the Japanese attack was on the way and deliberately allowed thousands of American servicemen to be killed so as to ensure that he could bring America into the war.
And the whole reason he wanted America into the war was simply that was the only way of getting America out of the Great Depression.
And that's exactly what happened.
In other words, if you read any of the history books, standard history books, they'll all say that America was mired in the Great Depression until the Second World War broke out.
What they don't say is that Roosevelt caused the war to break out to achieve exactly that result.
And I want to talk about some of the controversies and the misconceptions, including the narratives around World War II really being about the Jews.
Now, I know you said about 60 million people died.
I've seen 85 million people died in World War II.
People say 6 million Jews were killed.
And that's pretty much all we talk about.
It is interesting, too, with the Civil War, which is not even a real civil war in the United States.
You know, the same thing.
We talk about slavery and reparations today, and yet we don't talk about the hundreds of thousands of white men who died fighting each other in that war and for what they were actually fighting for or what they wanted to accomplish.
Things are very skewed in an anti-white, anti-Western dogma.
Now our best fighters are out here making videos about misogyny, how women need to be and have a better place in politics.
And basically, men are talking about nothing, about trans bathrooms.
And in reality, we've been given a entire platter of lies.
And I think the masks are off.
And I'm really excited because if everyone's becoming more liberal and more progressive and will throw a lot of shit my way to attack me, I feel like I'm moving in a direction more towards singularity, towards traditionalism.
And that's requiring me to do some digging and to talk to people like you, Ron, to start to discover the truth about our history.
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Ron, before we even transition over to talk about the misconceptions of World War II and the Holocaust, you had mentioned that you have an awesome website.
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And we're basically an alternative media website that provides a very wide range of controversial, important, interesting ideas that are excluded from the mainstream media.
Left-wing, right-wing, libertarian, just all across the spectrum.
And all my articles are there as well.
So in other words, you can basically come across a lot of the types of important issues that would never appear on any mainstream media website.
And, you know, my works, I mean, I've written quite a lot about the Second World War and a lot of other controversial things.
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