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Dec. 8, 2023 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Could THIS Be The END? | Guest: Alex Jones

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elijah schaffer
I'd like to welcome back to Slightly Offensive, a good friend of mine, a triumphant hero, and one of the greatest redemption arcs in public media history.
Alex Jones, welcome back to Slightly Offensive.
alex jones
Well, Elijah, that's quite the intro.
I don't know if I can live up to that, but it's good to see you, my compadre.
elijah schaffer
From the Benny Show had put up a tweet and said, Alex Jones says he hopes Elon Musk will watch his interview with Tucker Carlson, which already aired.
And people are watching this.
You have this video.
You're on the screen.
We don't need to talk about this.
But shockingly enough, Elon Musk says, I will hear him out.
Alex, is Elon Musk thinking about reinstating you to X or what do you make of this?
What is he talking about here?
alex jones
Well, it's more important for free speech, just the symbol than me on Twitter.
I'll be completely honest.
I'm good with live news reporting.
I'm great at shooting reports.
I was never good at Twitter.
People are like, don't just send links out, engage people, you know, do stuff.
So I was a C-minus at Twitter.
So, but it's the sign of him really.
He says he's a free speech absolutist.
That would be a huge, huge game changer.
And of course, I was banned on Twitter for confronting Oliver Darcy, the sidekick of Brian Stelter, if that's possible.
It's like the robin to the robin to the robin, not the robin of the Batman of censors.
That's why I was banned.
I mean, Joe Rogan, like five years ago, had Jack Dorsey and the lawyer on, and they admitted, oh, he's banned for this.
They read the code and why they did it.
The guy was censoring me, going after my advertisers.
I saw him peacefully confronted him in DC as he was going into a committee hearing about me where I was attacked, but I couldn't get in and couldn't speak and couldn't confront my accusers.
And they said that it was harassment and bullying.
It was a public figure trying to silence me.
And I said he was a traitor and an enemy of America.
And so they banned me for that.
Not for the things everybody hears because I never did or said the things they claim I was banned for.
That's a whole nother fraud with rigged courts and judges finding me guilty, just like Trump in New York doesn't have a jury.
He has a judge.
Well, in my case, the judges found me guilty and then told the juries how guilty I was.
So it's definitely a big deal.
You can say what you want about Elon Musk, but he's not done a 180 on the tyranny.
He's done about a 160, but he's going in the right direction.
elijah schaffer
Well, you say that, but people are really worried about him, Alex.
I mean, you have the Neuralink going on, this sort of cyborg fusion between artificial intelligence and humanity.
He claims he doesn't believe in God.
He's pushing for space exploration.
People can't even decide if we've been to the moon before.
Would you say that he is a net good or do you think he's a net evil?
alex jones
I would say if you go back four or five years ago, he was kind of a wash.
But now exposing global government depopulation, exposing censorship, exposing open borders, exposing wars.
I mean, overall, he's a positive.
Whether he's gotten religion and woken up or whether he's playing both sides because he sees liberty taking over, Christ said, Jesus said, my leader said, you judge a tree by its fruits.
And so Elon Musk, as I said, is on a 160.
I'd love to see a 180.
None of us are perfect.
A 178, whatever.
I'm probably like a one, you know, 170.
I'm not perfect either.
But I would like to see him go all the way towards liberty.
And so I'm not going to look at gift horse in the mouth.
elijah schaffer
And I genuinely have to agree with that.
I want to bring attention to something really important here as we're talking about this.
You know, I'm super happy and I'm pumped to talk to you.
Right now, as we're speaking, Owen is still in federal prison.
Am I correct on that?
alex jones
Yeah, InfoWars talk show host with me on night on January 6th, didn't go in the Capitol, try to stop people going in.
The feds lied in his charging document, lied in a sentencing document, said that he attacked the Capitol.
They even said he lied to the judge.
They called for perjury charges.
They said he'd never worked here, even though he's been here seven years.
So it'd be like saying Roger Stahlbach didn't play for the Dallas Cowboys or Terry Bradshaw didn't play for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
I mean, it's an incredible lie.
And then in his sentencing document that the feds gave the judge, the judge quoted three times this summer where he said the election was stolen with a transcript, the video link.
And the judge said, I'm going to go ahead and give you jail time, even though you're nonviolent for just being on the Capitol grounds because you're non-repentant.
You're still saying Trump was robbed, which is my opinion, and the evidence is there.
It did happen.
We were all robbed.
But even if I'm wrong, I have a right to be wrong.
So just outrageous, but we're sending crew today.
They've already left the office here in Texas to drive the seven, eight hours to Louisiana to pick Owen up tomorrow.
But they don't always release him on the days they say.
He did have two months.
They put him in solitary confinement the whole time, reportedly.
Only talked to his lawyers twice.
But for whatever reason, they're letting him out a half month early.
So I think they isolated him so he wouldn't call out and, you know, whatever.
But there looks like because of congressional pressure, I know the speaker of the house has said he was getting ready to actually go visit Owen.
We had Matt Gates and others and the wonderful MTG talk about it.
So I think, I don't think I actually know.
The word is that the Speaker of the House is planning to visit the prison.
And so Owen is getting a little bit of a get out of jail free card.
elijah schaffer
And I'm really happy about that.
I just want to remind everyone that's listening right now, and especially the crew and the staff at Infowars, how much we continue to support you guys.
And, you know, because a lot of people are new to this channel, Alex, people don't know that we know each other.
And people don't realize, and they might not have caught the fact that my entire awakening into the reality of the world remains because somebody handed me and told me to watch the Obama deception on YouTube to take a look at it.
I bought the DVDs.
I woke up.
I bought my Commute Obama t-shirt.
I had the hammer and sickle.
And people said that we were crazy.
People said I was crazy, that Alex Jones was crazy, that I was even crazier for listening to him.
How dare you think that Obama's going to usher in a new era of communism, of intersectionality, of equity politics?
I mean, this is 2007, 2008.
People were saying, you're so insane.
My principal told me you cannot wear this t-shirt because it is insulting to insinuate that Obama would usher in an era of communist regime totalitarianism.
I'm going to ask you, Alex, it looks like perhaps you were pretty damn well right and correct about what the Obama era was going to usher in.
How the hell did you know that this was going to be the demarcation of the new era of communist Western utopianism?
alex jones
Well, let's be 100% clear.
I was arrested protesting George W. Bush and repeatedly and protesting war.
So I was not a Republican or a Democrat when I first got on air in like 1994 and it got somewhat popular by 1996.
Trying to get on access TV here in Austin when I was 20 years old.
But again, got a local radio show when I was 20, 22.
So I was not coming to this from a partisan position.
But then I read the documents and I read the founding ideas of the controllers and I learned from the think tanks who actually ran things.
So I didn't support John McCain against Obama when he ran in, what was it, 2008, because I knew they were both bad.
It was a rigged election.
But I did make a film that came out two weeks after Obama had been sworn that was making it while he'd already won the election called the Obama Deception.
It's still free online.
It's hard to find.
They try to try to suppress it.
It is at banned.video and infowars.com.
Just go there and search the Obama Deception full film.
But I didn't support Mitt Romney when he ran four years later against Obama.
I knew that it was a stand-in.
It was loyal opposition.
It was staged.
But when I saw Donald Trump come on the scene and what they did and what happened, I saw the telltale signs that Trump was for real.
Didn't mean he was perfect, but he was definitely not with the system.
I got behind him.
So, yeah, I mean, if you go into the Club of Rome, the CFR, the Trident Lateral Commission, the Bilderberg group, I mean, I mean, I've been at Bilderberg Group events in Europe and in the U.S., where a guy on a motorcycle pulls up or a guy comes to the hotel we're at at night, and Lord knows how he knew where we were staying.
And he goes, here's a satchel of documents.
Happened a couple of times.
And it was all just secret, classified Bilderberg meetings of the 60s, 70s, 80s, both times.
I put that on air.
And I mean, it turned out it were real documents about their plan for world government, deindustrialization, erasing our borders.
So I knew then, man, there really is a global government getting set up.
And Senate Department Memorandum 200 and Henry Kissinger and Zabign Brzezinski.
So I knew this was all real.
And plus, my uncle was an army officer and was involved in Iran-Contra.
He told me about it.
And I had my dad's uncle, you know, was an Army Special Operations assassin.
And they didn't tell me much, but before he died, they told me some stuff.
And so I kind of grew up not being naive.
And so I kind of had a leg up on this.
So I knew they were trying this.
And I read the stuff the globalists wrote in the 50s.
It was done by the 70s.
I read the stuff they planned in the 70s.
It was done by the 90s.
So when I was reading in the 90s, what they were planning for the 2000s, I said, I got to oppose this.
And I said, I'll be attacked for saying all this craziness, but people will remember it, common sense.
And then once it comes true, I'll know the next leg of their operation.
They'll listen to me at that point.
That's really the story of InfoWars.
That's why we've been so successful.
elijah schaffer
Well, it's also interesting.
I remember you told me a couple of years ago, this is during the height of the scamdemic.
Obviously, InfoWars was at the cusp of prediction.
So were we.
And we've seen time and time again, you know, they tell us what they're going to do.
And I remember asking you about 9-11, and you were like, it was very clear.
Like they were basically explaining what they were going to do.
And people, I don't think, understood that at the time.
That's more of a modern, you know, accessible social media world where we're starting to get used to people, you know, going to magazines, boasting about rigging elections, you know, people talking as we say.
alex jones
Yeah, Time Magazine and the Democrats two months after they stole the election.
There's how we did it.
It was a headline.
You're asking a really good question, Elijah, if I'm getting this right.
How did I know that 9-11 was going to happen in July of 2000, 2001?
How did I say call the lighthouse, tell them, don't blow up the World Trade Center and blame it on their asset bin Laden?
How did I know that?
And there's a big controversy about did Alex Jones learn this from William Cooper?
I think William Cooper was a really smart, amazing, interesting talk show host.
Back then, though, he was on a very small shortwave station.
He didn't have internet archives.
So I've never really heard William Cooper.
I read his book.
I've been sent by listeners a few times, maybe 10 times or so, cassettes of his show, including when he attacked me.
And I thought, man, this is entertaining as hell.
I mean, he was a better talk show than I was when I'm like, you know, 26, 27 years old.
And this guy is calling me the devil incarnate.
And I interviewed Cooper, but I didn't go on air and say, call the White House, tell them don't blow up the World Trade Center because of Cooper.
Cooper saw the same thing I was seeing.
I didn't even hear him say this, where he said, hey, they're going to blame Bin Laden for something.
They're saying he's about to attack us.
He's really CIA.
Why can the government find him in his caves when the CIA can't find it for a decade?
Well, I didn't get that from William Cooper.
I got it from the X-Files Lone Gunman that aired eight months before 9-11, a few months before Cooper talked about it, a few months before I did, where Chris Carter later admitted the CIA came to him.
This is in the like Vanity Fair and newspapers.
Look it up, a variety, not Vanity Fair.
And they said, we want you to do an episode of the Lone Gunman Next Fall spinoff where the government hijacks a jumbo jet to fly at the World Trade Center to bring in martial law and invade Afghanistan.
So at the time I was on air saying, they always show like a 30-second clip.
I did hours where I said, there's a lone gunman episode.
I didn't talk to Chris Carter for like six, seven, eight years later.
I've talked to him since.
He said, yeah, the CIA told me and even told the newspaper that.
So it's incredible.
And so it's Chris Carter, but it wasn't just Chris Carter.
Then I was watching CNN and they had Gary Hart and another senator on who ran some commission.
It was a heart-rubbing commission.
The point was that they say life's about to end.
Big buildings are about to come down.
We need to have surveillance and control.
And I went, wait a minute.
The feds cooked the bomb and trained the driver in 1992.
And I'd already interviewed, I've interviewed like five, six times, Ahmad Salam, who was CIA trained, Egyptian intelligence, who went to the FBI and said, okay, they want to bomb the World Trade Center.
And they said, Salam, we want you to build the bomb, but we want you to not let it detonate on the day.
But before that happened, they said, let it go ahead and detonate.
So I'd already interviewed, who was already in mainstream news, Ahmad Salam, how the feds enabled the bombers.
So I had that point and X-Files, and they were on the news every night.
Oh, my God, Bin Laden's about to attack.
He's about to kill everybody.
Give your rights up when he attacks.
And I went on air and I put all these points together and a bunch I didn't mention for time, Elijah.
And I said, the deep state's going to blow up the World Trade Center.
They're probably going to use airplanes.
So Cooper just said they're going to blame Bin Laden for something.
Didn't even know he said that until later, people drudged it.
But he was a great smart guy.
Nothing against him.
God, Navy veteran, wonderful guy.
The point is, I'm telling people the providence of where I got it because other people can do this too.
It was all the signs and all the points.
And they bombed it before.
And they were saying he's going to attack.
And when he attacks, it's a new way of life.
And op-eds, the Austin American statesman, where I live saying terrorists coming.
When it comes, give up your rights.
The FBI director is currently saying blinking red lights everywhere.
You know, give your rights away with a terrorist attack.
You know, the borders wide open.
And so I specifically said they're going to blow up the World Trade Center, probably fly planes into it, blame it on Bin Laden, have a war on terror, but set up a police state to control the American people.
And I dead called it from all the data, just like Cooper's dead in the grave.
Nothing against Cooper.
But people realize they can do this too.
You don't have to imagine some guru gave it to you.
You can see the signs.
I remember in October of 2021 saying Russia is going to invade by the end of February.
And this is a giant proxy war because I had enough data points.
Or when I said Jesse Ventura 11 years ago on his national show, they're going to release a virus that attacks your immune system and use it for lockdowns.
You won't be able to go outside.
They're going to make you wear a mask.
I had Rockefeller documents that said that.
So I've always said on air, here's where I got this.
People cut that out.
They then, because I'll give people credit whoever they are.
You know what I mean?
I'm not portending this.
I'm not divining this.
I'm not reading chicken guts and tea leaves or looking into a crystal bulb.
I'm trying to teach people how I've learned this information.
And so I've done it over and over and over and over again because you can see the trajectory.
of where this is going.
So that's how I was able, I tried to stop it.
I mean, I didn't just do one show.
We're trying to find the original tape.
But I didn't, I didn't.
Oh, and Chase Geyser, one of our great crew members here, who uses AI to scan all my old recordings that they found online somewhere.
They found me in the spring before William Cooper.
And that's not about who did it first, which is true.
Saying, when you say the clip, you want to Elijah, saying they're going to fly jets in the World Trade Center for Martial Law.
I didn't even know I'd said that.
But again, it was all, they were programming the subconscious.
It was everywhere.
And so it isn't about who predicts it.
It's about getting the public to be able to see what we see.
That's what this is all about.
Does that make sense?
elijah schaffer
Well, it does.
And one of the interesting things, I know you just had this interview with Tucker, and I need to bring up this story because I watched this, Alex.
I've watched this.
I've seen you be the canary for what they continue to try to do to a lot of people.
You are a beloved figure in the right wing.
You're getting a lot right.
And they focus on the things that you don't get right.
When you get it right, they clip up what you say on the show so that it looks like you just made shit up or that you're not legitimately getting these from reliable sources.
They don't name your sources.
And then what happened?
Well, I mean, if people aren't familiar with recent history, and I'm learning this, by the way, this is good news.
I'm learning a lot of people don't know this basic like political history, which means a lot of people are getting red pilled.
A lot of new people are waking up today.
I'm very encouraged by that.
The people don't know what's been going on because they're just waking up after the pandemic.
They're going, oh my gosh, this has been crazy.
Is Alex, they removed him from each and every social media platform for some different accusation.
And before people could question, before people could ask, hey, why did we remove Alex Jones?
What they did is they nailed him with Sandy Hook accusations, which I completely, we're not going to get into, I believe are completely bullshit.
We're going to go through that.
Anything he'd gotten wrong, he'd apologize for.
And now what they cemented is this narrative, Alex Jones was banned off the internet for questioning certain narratives surrounding official federal interpretations of Sandy Hook, which is false.
And so I want to talk about this, Alex, how they had this multiple year plan.
You did a no-no.
You started predicting big things like September 11th.
You started predicting big things.
They silenced you.
It didn't work.
And now they try to cement, hey, we got to keep this guy down.
But now people, I want to bring up this tweet.
This is why.
People like Tucker Carlson.
What is going on here?
Tucker Carlson sounds a lot like conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.
The Biden administration, he says here, is openly threatening Americans over Ukraine.
In a classified briefing in the House yesterday, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin informed members that if they don't appropriate more money to Zelensky, in, you know, I'm interjecting this for the war in Ukraine to continue this global hegemony.
He says, and quote, we'll send your uncles, cousins, and sons to fight Russia, pay the oligarchs, or we'll kill your kids is what he's saying.
And Elon Musk responded on the most important public forum in world history.
He really said this.
And Tucker said he really did confirmed.
And now you know why they were trying to silence you, Alex.
Because if even Tucker Carlson, you know, who has a lot to lose as well, people like Elon Musk are waking up.
They were afraid if they didn't silence you, that exactly what's happening today would happen.
And the silencing didn't work on you, Alex.
It didn't work.
How do you feel about this?
I feel like your redemption.
Now, I mean, with me, I've known all your good friends have known.
Your audience has known that you were correct, but it's coming out.
Hey, Alex Jones wasn't crazy.
He was trying to warn us.
They tried to make him look crazy and they tried to silence him.
But guess what?
It's not Alex Jones' ideas that are coming popular again.
It's the truth.
It's the exposing of darkness.
It's the exposing of the global order that you've been parroting.
How do you feel about the fact that you've been proven correct and that they're being proven, the people who came against you are being proven as phony smear tactics slandering oligarchs?
And in the end, it looks like you were right the whole time.
alex jones
Well, that's a lot to unpack.
That was an amazing rant.
I'm going to air this on my own show.
That's okay with you in the next few days because I couldn't say it actually.
I couldn't say it that well.
Gosh, there was so there was so much there.
Let me say this: I wanted to, right before I came on with you, like 20 minutes ago, I was like, I got to talk about World War III and what Biden did, not talk about myself.
But it's important to talk about myself because it's a microcosm of what they're doing to everybody else.
But let's just go back to what you said at the end there, or close to the end.
Yeah, Tucker's got his sources.
Like when he said the NSA spying on me, and a month later, they confirmed it.
Tucker is the gold standard, never BS's.
The guy is an angel.
But we already have Biden yesterday saying, if we don't give $106 million to Ukraine, if you don't give us this funding, we're going to have troops on the ground in Ukraine in World War III.
So that's holding the world hostage, putting a gun to our head, saying, if you don't go along with this, we're going to expand the war.
And then we learn from congressional sources the same thing's being told to Congress as they're held hostage.
And then it just gets worse.
This is a dying regime.
And, you know, this is here's a headline I wrote today for InfoWars: Red Alert broadcast: Biden holds planet hostage, threatens direct war with Russia if Congress doesn't deliver 106 billion to Zelensky.
This is nuclear blackmail.
So that's the big story.
But you've got to understand how we got here.
And so, yeah, I didn't know what was happening with the Sandy Hook stuff five years ago because I'd never been the complete target of the deep state.
I mean, they did more propaganda on me than before they invaded Iraq the first time.
I mean, literally, thousands of articles a week, hundreds of TV programs.
I'm the devil.
I'm Satan.
I'm deplatformed.
Starting five years ago, six years ago.
And then they deplatformed me for no reason.
So they went, looked at my timeline and went back five, six years to a few shows I did where I just questioned things and agreed with callers.
And then they had PR firms, they've since then bragged about it, say that I was peeing on graves and attacking people's houses, never any proof, never any witnesses.
And they just kept saying, Alex Jones won't stop attacking our houses.
He's coming to our house.
He's peeing on our graves.
And I'm like, well, I go, hey, hey, I never actually thought that was completely staged.
I don't know.
I believe you're real.
And as soon as they kept saying, just apologize.
So I said, fine, I'm not the Sandy Hook guy.
I believe your kids died.
They went, we got you.
You just admitted you lied to get famous off us.
I never was in a blip on the radar.
I'm sad their kids died.
It was like a small news story in the overall compendium.
You know, we got 20 million dead from the poison shots and the rest of it now.
So then I went through judges finding me guilty, no jury trials, you know, just all the same stuff Trump's going through.
So now they all brag New York Times.
Yeah, we had PR firms.
Kind of like you said at the start of the interview, that Time magazine, here's how we did it.
The intelligence agencies in both parties, we got Trump.
They did the same thing.
This is how we got Jones.
They brag, they monologue about it.
And so, yeah, that tool they used on me was a beta test and all the weaponization and the congressional hearings that have come out.
So that's what happened there.
And I just feel sorry for the people that were sucked into it.
We can just move on from that.
But yeah, here's the icing on the cake.
Here's the cherry on top.
Here's the happy ending.
Here's the silver lining.
They thought intimidating people through attacking me or trying to intimidate people, they thought trying to destroy me would be an example for everybody else to shut up or you're next.
But humans aren't like that, at least a large portion of them.
When they wiped everybody out at the Alamo, that didn't make Texas back down.
It made them stand up and fight harder.
And so because of my audience, because of my crew, because of everything, we persevered and just believed no matter what happens to me, I've got to keep telling the truth.
I see the ripples in the pond.
What I do today isn't about me.
It's about who it affects.
So even though I'm this demonized person that they want to set up as the archetype of evil, because I'm the populist good guy trying to fight corruption, I'm not perfect.
I make mistakes.
I realize I've got to just keep fighting.
It isn't about me.
So because I did that, we out-persevered them.
And now all their devastation, all their world government, all their Islamic invasion, all their open borders, all Israel standing down to Hamas, which we said on October 7th, and now it's confirmed.
And the inside are trading.
It's all come out that it's not Hamas or Israel.
It's a group above both.
And so we've really reached this magic moment now.
The problem is an elite that's punch drunk, an elite that's power drunk, an elite that's never been stopped, an elite that believes their megamaniacal invincibility can take them to the stars.
Now they're saying, you give me $106 million or we're going to nuclear war and U.S. troops are going in and your sons and daughters are dying.
We can't let, quote, Russia win when nine years ago, the West started this war on record, overthrowing the Ukrainian government.
And then you know, you're in the hands of psychotics.
And then you're not worried about how it ends for Alex Jones.
You're not worried about your name or getting back on Twitter.
You're trying to stop World War III because you got four children.
And so as soon as you don't care, because I remember I've been on the year almost 30 years.
And a couple of years in, they'd have stalkers come after me.
I've got a sister that's 15 years younger.
They'd come to her middle school and threaten to kill her.
And they'd call my numbers and wait outside for me.
And I remember God said, forgive them and stop caring.
And it was like, as soon as I metaphysically didn't care about the stalkers anymore, they just went away.
And it's the same thing.
I'm not worried about me, Elijah.
I'm worried about nuclear war and financial collapse and the fentanyl deaths.
And as soon as we just keep telling the truth and don't worry about ourselves, that's when God kicks in.
And I think we're hitting that point because we're so close to destruction.
It's a paradox.
Are we winning?
Are we losing?
Well, it's a knife's edge.
But because the hour is so late, because the things are so serious, we're really in magic hour right now.
elijah schaffer
It definitely feels, and I mean this genuinely, it definitely feels like whatever happens in the next 12 months, that people need to be prepared that whatever they need to do, that they're going to do.
And this is not going to wait till Agenda 2030, as we're already experiencing it today.
alex jones
The battle the war is now.
elijah schaffer
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