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Dec. 7, 2023 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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CONFIRMED: TRUMP to Become DICTATOR on Day 1 | Guest: Anna McGovern

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anna mcgovern
49:16
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elijah schaffer
01:27:58
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vivek ramaswamy
03:32
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donald j trump
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jasmine crockett
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sean hannity
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elijah schaffer
This year, it turns out that the VEC, Ron DeSantis, and Nikki Haley, we're back on the stage with Ronald McDonald also as Chris Chris at this year's another debate for the Republican Party where Trump is not present.
We're going to be looking at debate highlights.
Plus, we are also going to be talking about Trump's speech, where he said that he might be dictator.
And believe it or not, you have to believe me, these people are losing their damn minds.
Already, The Guardian is quoting that Trump says he's going to be dictator only on day one if elected president.
And I can say I can only hope and pray that that's true.
Better than the shit that we're currently dealing with now to talk about this and so much more.
I'd like to welcome to the offensive first time Mike Anna McGovern.
She's a TV presenter.
Welcome to Slightly Offensive.
unidentified
Hello.
anna mcgovern
Thank you for having me.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
So I'm so happy to have you here.
Tell us a little about yourself.
Obviously, your accent is British since you're here.
anna mcgovern
Yes.
So I'm from the UK.
It's my first time in Australia.
I arrived here in September and first time at the Gold Coast as well.
So yeah, they've just been really enjoying it.
I previously in the UK, I was working with Talk TV and GB news and outlets like that.
So really do your time here.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, real fast.
The mic sounds like it's not working for a second.
So let me go ahead and check if this is doing all right.
You guys are unable to hear the mic.
Give me one second.
Audio glitch.
If you guys can't hear, then it's probably just an audio glitch with the software.
Give me a second here, guys.
Well, and Mike checked this real fast.
And let me go ahead and check.
We should be fine here.
unidentified
And yes.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
Check, check, check.
Let me know, guys, if we're good here.
Does the mic sound good?
If the audio is skipping every couple seconds, that might just be the software that we're currently in on.
And that is the case.
Give me one moment here.
All right.
Okay.
Everyone's saying this is much better.
And we fixed the mic.
Okay, and it's still cutting.
Okay, I guess it really doesn't matter.
We're just going to continue to go.
I hike my producer here who's currently in communication in the private chat and he'll look what's going on.
People are saying that and that it's much better.
So we're good to go.
All right, Anna, we are here in the studio.
We're talking about some important stuff as it is.
So there will always be technical difficulties.
But the craziest thing that I want to talk to you about, and I want to bring this up to you specifically, is this idea that Trump was on record, right?
The United States is in turmoil.
Black Americans are looting things off the shelves just as they're doing in London or all around the UK.
There's absolute anarchy and destruction across the country.
And Trump was interviewed in a television program with Sean Hannity.
He's one of our hosts here.
I want to play this clip for you.
I want you to listen to this.
And I want you to get a picture of really how bad the situation is inside of the United States right now and where people's minds are at that they would tolerate something like this.
Go ahead and listen to what Trump had to say.
sean hannity
I want to go back to this one issue, though, because the media has been focused on this and attacking you.
Yeah, under no circumstances, you are promising America tonight you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody.
donald j trump
Except for day one.
sean hannity
Except he's going crazy.
donald j trump
Except for day one, meaning I want to close the border and I want to drill.
sean hannity
That's not real.
unidentified
That's not retribution.
I'm going to be, you know, he keeps.
donald j trump
I love this guy.
He says, you're not going to be a dictator, are you?
I said, no, no, no.
Other than day one.
We're closing the border and we're drilling, drilling, drilling.
After that, I'm not a dictator.
unidentified
That sounds to me like you're going back to the policies when you were president.
elijah schaffer
And I mean, like, right off the bat, he's literally saying, right, I mean, he might be a dictator.
Do you think this is a joke or like, what do you actually think is going on here where Trump feels emboldened on TV to tell people, look, I'm not going to be a dictator, but on day one, we're going to crack some shit.
We're going to close the border.
We're going to make some arrests.
anna mcgovern
I mean, there might be a bit of a joke behind that, but I think the point behind it is that I think in the U.S., you know, Joe Biden, he's completely and we finally have someone who actually will be assertive and make decisions.
I think for a long time now, Joe Biden has been in no position where he should be leading the U.S.
And, you know, you can hear the crowds, they're cheering.
They're delighted about this.
And I think a lot of the media are actually manipulating what is actually being said by Donald Trump.
You know, he's actually putting forward things that need to happen very quickly.
And if people are voting him in and he gets into that position, he should be able to make those decisions very quickly because it's a matter of urgency.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it is a matter of urgency.
And I like to, I mean, if we bring this up here, I think it's kind of funny because Trump is basically saying, like, this country is in such a bad position.
I really don't want to be president.
I don't want the power and I don't want to be a dictator.
But if we turn this country around, we're going to have to have a dictator for 24 hours, right?
Like, we are going to have to forcibly arrest people.
We have to take from their homes.
We are going to have to put them in jail.
And a lot of people think this is extreme, but it's like we were just talking today.
I mean, you're here in Australia.
So am I. We're not citizens.
We're not permanently here.
This country is letting in 9,000 Indians and Chinese people per week, 9,000, which is the equivalent of the United States letting in 10 legal immigrants per year.
And they say, well, the third greatest group of people we're letting in are people from the UK.
But that doesn't mean white Europeans anymore.
Like that could just mean like Afghanis or Libya.
The idea that these countries are being flooded with people, and with that is coming open borders and drugs and fentanyl deaths, opiate crisis, theft, you know, just overall, you know, chaos.
It's like maybe we do need a dictator for a day, but the joke is like, yeah, he's not, but somebody's going to have to put down the rule of law because at the current rate that the West is going at, we're not going to have countries much longer.
Because it's not America or just the UK.
It's every damn Western white Europe traditional country has turned into these multicultural crime-infested cesspools.
anna mcgovern
Exactly.
And I think this is something that we're seeing on an international level.
And it's not so much the point about I'm going to be a dictator for a day.
It's the fact that we need people that are going to enforce this and actually put, you know, when they put forward these policies like in the UK, we've seen that they're going, you know, so many, the same old work where they're like, we're cut back on immigration and it's just been getting worse and they have no handle on it whatsoever from the UK perspective.
And I think this is, as I said, something we're seeing internationally.
So it's just the fact that we need someone who's just going to be assertive and lay down that law and actually say, no, we have to take control of this because it's now a crisis.
elijah schaffer
Well, and I absolutely agree with your ascertainment because when I look at this, I want to play a couple clips.
You and I both were not watching.
We're just going to clarify.
We were not watching the Republican debate.
Okay.
Because it is like two o'clock in the afternoon here.
It is the Gold Coast.
It is your first time, I think, on the Gold Coast, right?
anna mcgovern
Yes, it is.
elijah schaffer
And what do you think about it so far?
anna mcgovern
I've just seen the beach.
I like the beach.
I've not seen much of it yet.
I will definitely have an explore later on.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, maybe check out the meth.
We have good meth up here as well.
Absolutely.
Right.
Everyone's meth now in Australia.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
anna mcgovern
There you go then.
elijah schaffer
Well, if you're not in drugs, it's fine.
But I do, but I do want to bring this up.
So we weren't watching the debate, but I do have some highlights that I do want to play because this sort of brings up where we're at as a country.
Now, unless you're living under a rock, you're probably slightly familiar with what's going on in the U.S., see what's happening, and you know that things are pretty much have gone to shit.
But Vivek Ramaswamy, the Hindu Indian individual running, basically laid into his opponents and talked about how absolutely feckless and retarded they are by ripping into them.
Now, let me go into this.
Let me bring this up here for a second.
This is where Vivek rips into people.
Let's go ahead and listen to this.
This is absolutely insane.
vivek ramaswamy
I want to say one thing about the tie to Ukraine, if I may.
So foreign policy experience is not the same as foreign policy wisdom.
I want everybody at home to know that I was the first person to say we need a reasonable peace deal in Ukraine.
Now a lot of the neocons are quietly coming along to that position with the exceptions of Nikki Haley and Joe Biden, who still support this, what I believe is pointless war in Ukraine.
And I think those with foreign policy experience, one thing that Joe Biden and Nikki Haley have in common is that neither of them could even state for you three provinces in eastern Ukraine that they want to send our troops to actually fight for.
Look at that.
This is what I want people to understand.
These people have, I mean, she has no idea what the hell the names of those provinces are, but she wants to send our sons and daughters and our troops and our military equipment to go fight it.
So reject this myth that they've been selling you that somebody had a cup of coffee, stint at the U.N. and then makes $8 million after has real foreign policy experience.
It takes an outsider to see this through.
Look at the blank expression.
She doesn't know the names of the provinces that she wants to actually fight for.
elijah schaffer
Anna, I mean, this is like one of the craziest things, right?
The United States controls the world's economy.
We control the world's militaries, like the United Kingdom, New Zealand, all of the five eyes, Canada are all subservient to our mission, NATO.
And the people that are running to actually direct and have the nuclear codes to run this stuff, like Nikki Haley, which the Republicans really want her to win against Trump is that people are choosing him.
She wants to fight a war in Ukraine.
She wants to fight a war in Gaza.
She wants to fight a war in Lebanon.
And when you ask like, well, okay, I want to send young men to die.
Obviously, you believe this is a powerful solution to the world's problems.
Can you name three provinces?
And she can't even name three.
And neither could Joe Biden apparently either as well.
I know this probably doesn't shock you, but it's kind of amazing how unimpressive the powerful people are that run our country.
anna mcgovern
Yeah, no, exactly.
And I think a lot of people would resonate that in the US, that Joe Biden is completely incompetent.
And I personally think he doesn't know what he's doing.
And, you know, you think that the people in power responsible for our lives should have an understanding of this and be able to inform us best.
But clearly, we're not seeing that.
elijah schaffer
No, we're not seeing that.
I think if I can bring this up real fast, this awesome look.
Yeah, let me bring this up.
This is her face as we were watching that when he was like, she literally doesn't know three provinces.
Now, I think, you know, when we're talking about Eastern Ukraine, already controls it, which is pretty insane.
They've already lost the war.
Ukraine lost the war.
And, you know, I remember that Zelensky even wanted peace deals in 2022, but the Biden administration and exactly, it was your prime minister.
What's his name?
The partier.
anna mcgovern
Well, Rishi Sun.
unidentified
No, the one before.
anna mcgovern
Oh, the one before Boris Johnson.
elijah schaffer
Boris Johnson.
Boris Johnson told him to keep fighting.
And the UK told him they've lost over 175,000 men since then, since I've seen either wounded or killed in action.
How do these people do this?
Like, how do these people just say, you know what?
No, fighting.
They don't even know what's going on in the country.
And then people like you and I are like, hey, maybe this war isn't a wise idea.
Maybe we should fix our problems at home before setting billions.
And then in the end, guess what?
We're the ones called crazy.
We're the ones called fanatics.
We're the ones called somehow far right or these things when really they're the ones sending over 150,000 men to die.
And we're the extremists.
anna mcgovern
I absolutely agree.
And in terms of Boris Johnson, I think it was diabolical what he did to the UK.
It's my understanding that he now has his own like television show on GB News.
That's my understanding at the moment.
And he's currently going through the COVID inquiry and the absolute shambles of the government's handling of the COVID, you know, coming in and out of lockdowns, important decisions being made essentially via WhatsApp messages.
And I just think it was a complete shambles and it affected people's lives.
Like genuinely, the cost of mental health, people's financial stability and physical health as well is far greater than the crisis that COVID ever was.
And I just think we've got a number of leaders at the moment who are just completely incompetent in power.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and I have to agree with that.
I want to look at another clip from this.
Absolutely insane from this debate that makes me question everything that I think I know.
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I'm joined in the studio by Anna McGovern.
She's a TV presenter from the United Kingdom, currently working as well here as a presenter in Australia, but of course concerned about American issues.
And we're talking about debate highlights.
Here's an insane thing that happened.
So what ended up going down even more is that Vivek ended up bringing up something important, which I do want to focus on, which is he acknowledged the great placement, which Media Matters and right-wing watch, and I'm sure the BBC and ABC and all these people would say makes you a white supremacist, makes you a white nationalist.
I have a segment talking about replacement migration being a conspiracy.
And then the next segment, I can't shit you on this.
It's talking about how they're bringing in over 9,000 foreigners that don't speak English a week and that house prices are going to jump 17% and that by 2050, the United Kingdom, Australia, and the United States will be replaced as minority white countries.
How the hell do you have the audacity to call people who are watching the truth and speaking the truth racists or nationalists and then admit that they were correct in what they were saying the next segment?
You just call it something different.
I'm going to go ahead and play this.
The vet had the balls, I just will say, straight up to literally call this out and say, look, this is what's actually happening.
They are replacing native populations.
You can call it what you want.
And I'm really happy to see this.
Let's take a look.
vivek ramaswamy
I think the real enemy is not Donald Trump.
It's not even Joe Biden.
It is the deep state that at least Donald Trump attempted to take on.
And if you want somebody who's going to speak truth to power, then vote for somebody who's going to speak the truth to you.
Why am I the only person on the stage, at least, who can say that January 6th now does look like it was an inside job?
That the government lied to us for 20 years about Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9-11.
That the great replacement theory is not some grand right-wing conspiracy theory, but a basic statement of the Democratic Party's platform that the 2020 election was indeed stolen by big tech.
That the 2016 election, the one that Trump won for sure, was also one that was stolen from him by the National Security Establishment.
Connection for the Trump-Russia collusion oaths that they knew was false.
There's a reason why I'm the only person on the stage who can say these things.
That's what it's going to take, not people who were licking his boots one time and now Monday morning quarterback came and criticizing him when it's convened.
elijah schaffer
Anna, what do you think about that?
anna mcgovern
Not the interruption.
She's trying to stop him from speaking.
unidentified
No.
anna mcgovern
She doesn't like it.
I think that a lot of these institutions are and they will silence people who stand up against the narrative that these users are perpetuating.
I don't know if you guys saw, but earlier on, I'm not sure if this was yesterday in the UK, but there was actually a segment on the BBC where there was a presenter who actually did the middle finger as the segment was beginning and then started speaking, like, you know, reporting the news, which I think just demonstrates that how these institutions funded by the taxpayer feel about you as a person.
And, you know, I think that's actually the first time to have been honest about.
And I think that this is reflected across all of our kind of mainstream institutions as well.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And I have to agree with that because I think like when you see people being unwilling to ever speak the truth online and they get fired for it, I think Greg Gutfeld from Fox News had just pointed out that the reason why Tucker Carlson was fired at the height of his career was because he was just asking the wrong questions.
And individuals who. are just trying to speak the truth will eventually get pushed out.
And I kind of bring this to sort of like at a job, right?
If people, in any job, people don't forget that politicians and media are just jobs.
In the end, it's an income for people and it's a way to do something that you consider meaningful.
However, very bad people control politics and very bad people control the media.
Some might even say they're the same people.
But the most important aspect of this is like, it is important to use the correct phrasing and not be bullied because you know how much people try to really skirt around this stuff.
And it's so insane that censorship has become so commonplace now in our country that people are actually not speaking the truth.
And I've seen this with a lot of right-wing presenters.
A lot of people are afraid because right-wing ideas have been demonized as being extreme or toxic.
Anything about freedom, liberty, speech, you know, borders, all things are considered extreme.
But so instead of just saying, hey, I'm going to say what I'm going to say.
And if you want to call me extreme, then fuck you.
People have decided, well, I'm going to start a channel about movies and I'm going to start a channel focused on video games, which is fine.
But you watch everybody who's effective really does shift away from politics, from really being true to right-wing ideas because the censorship works.
They cut off the money.
They cut your reach.
They shadow ban you.
They tricked you.
There's really nothing that you can do functionally to get out of that.
And so what do people do?
They capitulate.
They bend the knee for the dollar.
And I don't blame them.
And I'm not talking shit.
I'm just saying like the fact that the vec would say this and it's controversial.
How is it controversial to say something that's actually happening?
anna mcgovern
And I think that this is something we're seeing in younger generations as well.
So, you know, I'm a 22-year-old girl.
I have right-wing values.
And I've actually lost a lot of friends when I then started, you know, decided to become public, do a lot more media appearances talking about my values and political opinions.
Friends that I've had for years turned against me and just immediately made an assumption on my character on the basis of my political beliefs.
I think there's a major misconception when it comes to people holding right-wing values, especially with young people.
You've got content perpetuated on TikTok that from what I've seen sort of goes toward, you know, the left where it kind of promotes a lot of left-wing ideology, young people consuming that.
And then any association with the right, any association with like having those right-wing values, they think it's evil, it's dangerous.
And they make an assumption on your character.
We're seeing this across every area of society.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, we are seeing that.
And what I'm saying, yeah, because I get frustrated also as well.
And I've brought this up many times, is that one reason why the right wing continues to lose is because they censor their greatest voices.
So like we'll take people that are controversial or maybe a little fundamentally right wing, too fundamental for certain people.
And what do our networks do?
They fire.
What does Sky News do?
They'll fire them.
What does GB News do?
They'll fire them.
What does Fox News do?
They fire them.
What does CNN, MSNBC, what does the ABC, BBC, what do they do when someone's fundamentally left-wing, progressive, and is batshit crazy?
anna mcgovern
Oh, yeah, 100%.
And I actually think that if you're working for somewhere, they should be having your back.
And we're actually seeing, so, for example, channels that, you know, supposedly promote free speech, actually then turning away from their presenters because they said something that was a little bit too testing or a bit too against what you know, the narrative that they're trying to speak to.
And, you know, we're seeing institutions now turning against people just for speaking up on the, you know, we, you know, we should be promoting free speech and having discussions, but we're, you know, if you say the wrong thing that the mainstream, for example, with those institutions don't necessarily agree with, you will be honest, you'll be censored.
You could even lose your job, livelihood for holding those opinions and speaking your truth, which I think is completely wrong.
elijah schaffer
Right.
And the weirdest part about it is like, is that our ideas, which are basically seated at the foundation of how these countries were started, right?
These things were popular even up until like 30 years ago.
Like, this is the craziest part: what is the main platform of the right today?
Essentially, almost like centrist center-left ideas from just 30 years ago.
And if you really want to see what extremism is, we can get extreme, we can do that, but that's quite frankly not what we're doing.
And that's why I want to play this other clip that actually took place at the debates as well, which is where, let me see if I can bring this up.
Yeah, here it goes.
So Vivek actually called out the other presenters as well, not just Nikki Haley, basically calling them out for their bullshit.
Here's what he had to say.
Let's go ahead and watch this.
vivek ramaswamy
With all three of my other colleagues on this debate stage, is all three of them have been licking Donald Trump's boots for years for money and endorsements.
Ron DeSantis, you've been a great governor, but you would have never been one without actually begging Donald Trump for that endorsement.
And you had a year ago.
Same thing with Chris Christie as a lobbyist, begging them for COVID money for his special interests in New Jersey, prepping him for the debates last time around.
These people are now Monday morning quarterbacking some decision he made.
I think the real enemy is not Donald Trump.
It's not even Joe Biden.
It is the deep state that at least Donald Trump attempted to take on.
And if you want somebody who's going to speak truth to power, then vote for somebody who's going to speak the truth to you.
Why am I the only person on the stage at least who can say that January 6th now does look like it was an inside job?
That the government lied to us for 20 years about Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9-11.
That the great replacement theory is not some grand right-wing conspiracy theory, but a basic statement of the Democratic Party's platform that the 2020 election was indeed stolen by big tech.
That the 2016 election, the one that Trump won for sure, was also one that was stolen from him by the national security establishment.
And actually put out the Trump-Russia collusion oaths that they knew was false.
There's a reason why I'm the only person on the stage who can say these things.
That's what it's going to take, not people who were licking his boots one time and And now Monday morning quarterback even criticizing what it's going to be.
elijah schaffer
I mean, he's bringing this up, right?
How absolutely phony politics is that these people, you know, are upset one moment or they're backing you one moment and the moment they betray you.
I feel like all media, all of this works the exact same way.
anna mcgovern
Oh, yeah, 100%.
They all completely stab each other in the back all the time.
I think it almost fosters this sort of culture where you can't trust anyone.
When if anything, I think we should be together speaking up the truth.
I think as soon as someone says something that you might disagree, cancel culture, you're cancelled on the internet.
That's it forever.
Bye.
And I think as well, he's very well spoken.
And see, again, the presenters just like, okay, thank you.
Stop speaking now.
I don't want to hear this.
And I think he's speaking some uncomfortable truth that they don't want to necessarily have out there.
elijah schaffer
Right.
And I think this brings me up to somebody of foreigners.
We have a politician in Australia named Paul Hanson who definitely ripped into these foreigners.
If, by the way, we don't come back for a minute, I'm just going to try to see if I can reboot the audio for you guys because it seems like Rumble and the stream is having some issues here.
And so I'm going to play this video.
I want you to listen to this because this is one of the last politicians who's really speaking the truth on what's going on.
And she's saying what a lot of people are thinking.
You've basically hipped our goodwill.
We're not racists in terms of we don't hate people for being different, but we don't want the United States.
We don't want Canada.
We don't want New Zealand.
We don't want the UK.
We don't want Australia to be Afghanistan.
We don't hate Africans.
We don't want our countries to be Africa.
That doesn't mean we hate people.
We have value and culture and respect for our people.
Here's what she had to say.
It's absolutely crazy.
And I want you to listen to this because they actually put her in jail.
I don't know if you know about this.
They put her in jail for years, Pauline Hansen.
Yeah, they had gotten her one time.
They put her in jail for years for political bullshit, just like they've done with a lot of people in the United States.
And here's what she had to say about the problem with immigration.
unidentified
Well, we've had another article today in the paper by Judith Sloan with regards to our high immigration figures.
The recent ones are about 500,000 a year.
In addition to natural population increase, which is about 120,000 a year, which means that it's close to 600,000 have been added to the population a year.
This is almost half the population of Adelaide and over 100,000 more than the population of Canberra.
On top of that, you know, we've got 726,000 international students.
Apart from all that, 20,000 a year, which means that it's close to 600,000 have been added to the population a year.
This is almost half the population of Adelaide and over 100,000 more than the population of Canberra.
On top of that, you know, we've got 726,000 international students.
Apart from all that, what the government has opened up is Afghan refugees that are in Pakistan.
And since the 15th of August of 20 until November the 10th, there have been 217,000 Afghan visa applications.
32,000 of them are on P1 and P2.
P1 priority is Afghan women who are without men to protect them.
This is women that probably have never had an education, come to Australia, will not assimilate, bring the children.
I can see them on welfare for most of their life because they will not be able to assimilate into our culture.
My big concern is that these people may be Islamic fundamentalists.
Are they going to be looked at properly and are they viable to bring to Australia?
The man that was released from the detention centre is just out there originally from Afghan.
So here we have someone who was a sex offender on our streets.
We cannot keep increasing our population into Australia when the Australian people can't find housing themselves.
It is wrong to keep increasing the numbers.
If you're going to bring people into the country, make sure they will assimilate, are in tune with our culture, our way of life, and will assimilate into our society, which is more important to this country than bringing in people.
217,000, 66,000 applications that have been processed and now 150,000 in the pipeline.
When is enough?
Senator, your time's expired.
donald j trump
You're muted, bro.
elijah schaffer
Let me know.
Are we good here?
Can you hear me?
Can you hear me now, Brian?
Just let me just double-check that.
All right, cool.
Sorry.
And I apologize to you, Anna.
Apparently, everybody's lagging in Rumble and the live stream.
There's like issues with the whole live stream, but we're good.
I know, I know.
But you know, luckily we're live.
All right.
All right.
Give me one second here.
Let me go ahead and change the audio here.
And let me go to here.
All right.
We should be good to go.
And we should be here as well.
All right.
Everyone should be able to hear me.
Everyone should be able to hear you too.
All right.
Let's continue on and go with this because there seems to be a lot of issues with the stream and we will continue to make it go.
The point making was just particularly about Pauline Hanson.
What was going on?
Go ahead and make that point again because I don't think they caught it.
anna mcgovern
Yeah, no problem.
I think what she said in terms of the housing crisis, I think, resonates across the world.
Like in the UK, for example, we have a major housing crisis by the fact that young people are almost definitely never going to be able to own their own home.
The government has completely mishandled immigration.
It is at such a high influx that taxpayer services, you know, people of the UK do rely on generally, they are completely overflooded because there's so many people trying to use them that there's just not the capacity.
And young people are now being priced out of the housing market.
And I think, yeah, again, this is something that we're seeing on an international level.
And I don't think it's controversial to say that if you're moving to a country that you should assimilate to their culture and share the same values either.
elijah schaffer
Well, it shouldn't be controversial, but that's what I thought was insane with the uproar.
But also, like, I'll just be up straight up.
Multiculturalism has made this country objectively worse.
It's made Australia worse on every metric.
And it's funny because when I listen to presenters on ABC talk about how multiculturalism helps, the main thing they say is it, oh, it really helps the economy.
And that's all they think about.
unidentified
What does that even mean?
elijah schaffer
Well, it's the banks.
That's all they view us as substantial models.
And so they don't care about our culture.
They want to wipe us out.
They don't want resistance.
They don't want identity.
They're like, well, we bring a bunch of Indians and it helps us make more money.
Who makes more money?
Because our quality of life goes down.
The price of housing goes up.
Our social services are delineated and they're given out to people that abuse them.
Our taxes increase.
The social welfare of people.
Food prices go up.
Like, who's getting better?
The economy is growing, but it's getting more and life's getting shittier.
So who's benefiting?
That's the question.
Who's benefiting from increased immigration?
They go, and that's what they have to keep telling us.
If we really were benefiting from it, nobody would be upset about it.
Everyone be like, yeah, bring in more people.
This is awesome.
anna mcgovern
Yeah, exactly.
elijah schaffer
But it's not awesome.
And they know it.
So they keep telling us that it is.
And then when you question it, they call you a racist.
anna mcgovern
Exactly.
And I think it's, again, they don't want truth spoken on air.
They want to perpetuate certain narratives.
And I don't think they even know what it necessarily means.
But if you are to say these truths, you'll just be canceled.
You'll be called a racist.
How dare you say this?
And you'll just be completely canceled on the internet by the people around you for saying something that is factually true.
elijah schaffer
Right.
And I think one of the weirdest about this too is that I want to bring up a couple more videos here, a couple more articles that we can talk about, which really does blow my mind.
So, you know, like we talked about, the illegals going into New York City, there's this unsustainable amount of people.
And people laughed about this at first and they were talking about how, okay, we're going to start bussing illegal immigrants in the United States up into the liberal states.
So you see videos like this every single day.
There's just busloads of people.
Let me see if I can.
You see busloads of people every single day just being let off into Northeast states.
People don't know how far away from the border this is.
This is very far from the border.
This is the equivalent of dropping people off in Canada.
This is how far it is up north.
And the insanity with this is that while it's funny, it's gotten to such a point that New York is now going to be taxing cars $24 a day to enter into the city to be able to support and pay for these people.
So while it's funny, it's like, dude, there's people go, well, they voted for this.
Well, first of all, most people don't vote.
Secondly, there's a lot of right-wing people in liberal states.
They just don't have the voting majority.
They have 30%, 35%, 40%, but not 100.
And when you see this kind of stuff, this isn't fun.
I mean, you go visit New York for a business trip.
Now you're paying an extra $100 US, $140 Australian, just to be able to drive into the city.
And people think, oh, well, we just want to help people, but who's going to pay for this?
And that's why Trump's like, I got to be dictator.
I've got to shut down the border.
We've got to get a hold of this because if we don't, it's okay to be bad for one day in order to make sure that we secure our future.
Because without shutting down the border, there's going to be no future for any of the Western countries.
anna mcgovern
No, I agree.
And it's always at the foot of the taxpayer as well.
What I want to know is who are these people?
Where are they coming from?
Why are they here?
And the fact that they're now just to foot the bill yet again.
So sometimes it does take someone to actually come into power who, you know, voted in as well, who comes in and just says, right, we're going to solve this once and for all.
I'm going to put my foot down and say no to this because no other leader has been capable of doing this.
I actually think that he's actually making that stand already and saying, you know what, we're going to come in day one.
We're going to sort this out straight away.
We have a crisis on our hands.
I'm going to deal with this.
People have been asking this for a very long time.
No one has come through.
And finally, we might have someone who will.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I really do think that we do because Trump wants to close this down.
I want to play a video here of the border that people are like, okay, well, you know, it's just Mexican people that have been destabilized by you proxy that are actually coming.
Oh, really?
George Ventura from News Nation, I believe, shot this video.
I could be wrong, but check.
This is who's coming through the border.
Does this look like a bunch of just Mexican people to you that just got somehow removed from their place?
Peace?
Do you know what I'm saying?
What are you seeing here?
I mean, this is hard to watch.
anna mcgovern
We're seeing a consensus that, you know, we're seeing, you know, physically fit young men who are coming in.
And again, as I said, they're coming from.
Why are they here?
And yeah, I think this is something that we're seeing a lot as well, you know, across the world.
elijah schaffer
Well, and the weird part is, is how many of these people are like Chinese?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
How many of these people are from the Middle East?
Like there is, this cannot be by accident.
And we know it's not, right?
But the problem with this is, is that we live in an intellectually dishonest world where you cannot have debates without people A, calling you a name, throwing a tantrum and running away.
I sometimes intentionally do this on Twitter and bring up controversial stuff just to see who's a bitch and who's not.
But on a global scale, you know, nothing's better example than the current Israel-Hamas war.
You know, when you say something really simple, I think Candice Owens said something about how genocide of any innocent civilians is not a good thing.
She didn't say Israel was genociding Gaza.
She didn't even say that Hamas was genociding Israel.
She made a blanket statement, just genocide is not good and people shouldn't.
And like her own boss got mad at her, Ben Shapiro, was like, oh, so you hate Israel.
And people have this weird way of reading into what we say and projecting upon us things that we're not saying.
And feels like there's no room for open and honest discussion on these issues because you just go, hey, I think that we shouldn't be allowing people to just enter into our country.
I think that we need to protect our genetics.
We need to protect our race, our people.
They go, so a white supremacist.
You go, I'm not asking China to blood with white people.
I think China should exist as China.
I just think that our countries, if we don't have sovereignty, then we won't look out for our people's issues.
Cultures are different.
What we value is different.
And then if we just let anybody in that believes or thinks anything, then we'll pass whatever the hell laws we feel like in the moment.
And long story short, we're not going to have a country anymore.
anna mcgovern
Absolutely.
And it's just quite interesting as well.
You make a very valid point.
And, you know, someone will jump immediately to try and put a label on it.
You know, they'll call you white supremacists.
If you back up what you're saying, you know, there could be statistics, research put behind what going forward, you know, speaking truth to power.
And then they're like, you're a white supremacist.
They're just not even taking in probably anything you said.
And I think Israel-Palestine, that's been very contentious.
It's almost like people are need to take sides, but surely the death of innocent people is a bad thing.
Like that should not be that's controversial.
But if you say that, you are, you know, again, you're accused like with Candace Owens as well making a very valid point.
And then she's like, she's accused of hating Israel, which is not what she said at all.
elijah schaffer
No, she didn't.
And I want to bring up a very important article there that is something that we should talk about, which is how bizarre this has gotten, this conversation.
And the reason why I'm going to talk about Israel and Palestine, I'm not going to get you in trouble for your jobs, but I do want to talk about this because it's interesting to me that it's taken Jewish people being targeted in white countries, I want to say.
We're not talking about Israel.
We're talking about Jewish students and citizens in traditionally white countries being targeted for the governments to care about racial targeting of anyone outside of like Muslims.
And we've seen this before.
Oh, Islamophobia.
Oh, anti-Semitism.
And you're going, but we're white countries.
And they go, no, you're not.
You go, yes, we are.
And they go, no, we're multicultural countries.
You go, no, that's only like the last several decades.
That wasn't the case.
And this is an experiment and it's not working.
And they go, okay, so what are you trying to say?
I'm saying, hey, when you have this article from CBS saying like college presidents in the United States are facing tough questions from Congress over anti-Semitism on campus, it goes on to say that Washington, three college presidents testified before committee on Tuesday about how they have handled anti-Semitic incidents on their campuses since the October 7th terrorist attack by Hamas on Israel, which we found out later that they pre-knew about and allowed to happen,
with many Republican lawmakers insisting that they aren't doing enough to root out and denounce anti-Jewish sentiments.
Now, I don't think that either you or I or anybody watching the show is mad that colleges are trying to keep their students safe and or that colleges are trying to mitigate the amount of rhetoric that may endanger or make feel unable to attend class.
That's common decency.
However, I might believe this, I might believe this Anna, if for the last 25 years, colleges haven't been ground zero for the most anti-white, anti-straight, vitriolic, anti-white nation, right?
We're talking about colonialism.
We're talking about colonization.
We're talking about imperialism.
I mean, our entire history, they have spat on and rejected and.
And so while I'm like, okay, why is this the issue that governments are getting involved to stop on colleges?
Why didn't any of these politicians care about the majority populace in their countries as we have been completely, I would say, illegally victimized by these people?
It's hard for me to take, you know what I'm saying?
It's hard for me to take you seriously when you're selective on which groups you give a shit about.
anna mcgovern
No, I agree.
And I take your point about university.
Well, this is something very prolific in the UK.
There is a very wide culture of, you know, being cancelled for having particular opinions again.
And, you know, university, you know, very small select student unions that we have in the UK.
I'm not sure how it works in the colleges in the USA.
But we have very small elected student unions that can make decisions essentially that infect the entire university.
And only a very small number of percent of students need to vote for something to go in.
For example, meat has now been banned on several USU campuses, you know, woke policies like that that have been brought forward.
And it's especially these universities having just graduated several months ago, it's almost like that they want to silence certain ideas.
And university is meant to encourage the learning of new ideas, debates, having, you know, whatever political persuasion you come from, actually being able to debate those ideas in a place where you're learning more about all the different sides.
And it's like, we want you to actually have one narrative in mind.
And if you have something else, again, it's rejected.
So just to have an example as well, I was the head of a conservative society at my university.
And we were at the time, I know slightly off topic, but it is relevant in terms of the universities and how this is happening.
So in the university, so where I was head, at the time we had strikes happening at universities with the teachers.
And I was, I was also, you know, arguing, we were on a group chat, we're discussing this.
And I said, what about the students who are being affected by this?
We're getting no form of any compensation.
Our, you know, lessons are not being made up for in response to this.
No one is speaking up for us.
They then researched me and found out that I was the head of this conservative society.
And then they all started flooding me and saying, oh, Tori, get her out of the chat.
And like all of these messages from like over 100 people on this chat.
unidentified
It's scary.
anna mcgovern
I didn't know any of these people.
And just because I was a conservative, they immediately just came down against me, made an assumption of me again without knowing anything about me.
And I get this is what we're seeing across all your university campuses as well, trying to silence and stifle ideas.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it is remarkably difficult to be right-wing and open about it without people getting mad.
And now people do this on both sides because what it is is that people are unable to remove themselves from their worldview and try to understand why you might believe differently than them.
They're very emotionally driven and they do not allow themselves to look at truth and facts before making accusations.
And this is very common.
You know, this is where they use the big ones.
You're a xenophobe, you're a racist, you're a transphobe.
And I'm like, don't, don't make me sound too cool.
You know what I mean?
No, I'm just kidding.
But it's like, it's like, you know, it's like, well, you know, maybe we are all transphobic now because we weren't upset at trans people.
In fact, I never thought much about them.
I'm backfiring.
It's like transphobic, afraid of trans people.
I mean, some of them are pretty scary looking.
I will be completely honest.
Some of them that don't, some of them, some of them pass.
There are the Thailand ones, they do a little bit.
But you look at this and you're like, well, for the most part, the trans issue doesn't bother me at all.
Like, meaning I would have, I would have never thought about it.
I didn't even really know people did that.
I never thought about it.
But then they try to normalize it in terms of like, not just like, hey, there are some people out there that are that cross-dress and stuff.
And I'd be like, well, I mean, I guess if you're a man and you present as a woman and you look like a woman, then how would I even know you're a man?
anna mcgovern
So I think that this is a huge problem because now I think you've got men that are taking advantage of, for example, we have gender neutral toilets.
So just to name an example, I was out with a friend of mine a few years back and I went to the bathroom, which was gender neutral.
And there's a group of, there was a group, oh, actually, no, it was a female bathroom, but it, you know, they were quite lax on people, you know, of all, you know, if you're a man, woman, or other now, using that space.
And there was a group of six men who all just started circling me, you know, big strong men.
And, you know, in an environment like that, it's very intimidating.
You should not have men accessing those spaces.
You know, there is a physical difference between men and women purely biologically.
And I think it's really important that we're actually taking a huge stand against this, protecting those female spaces as well.
Also, recently in Sydney, we had the Trans Day of Resistance in Newtown, Sydney.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
I went there to go and find out.
I went towards the end of the protest on my own name and I spoke to some of the trans activists for a few minutes.
And my intention was to cover the event and find out what is the reason they're there.
What are the principles that they're standing?
And then I explained who I was.
I said what I've worked for and started filming with someone who'd agreed.
And then they made, you know, they started, there was a group of other activists that started looking.
And by the way, these activists were very nice to me, very friendly.
And then they started looking me up on social media.
And without me, again, saying anything, my intention, as I'd said, I was very honest with that, was to cover the event and find out what do the principles of the trans day of resistance mean?
Why are they there?
And then immediately they start shouting over the camera saying, right wing, get out.
And then they start like swearing.
They also are like kind of grouping up, getting increasingly hostile, swearing at me.
And the vibe completely changed just because I had, again, right-wing values.
And, you know, just for speaking up on women's rights and protecting women's faces, you'll be met with a barrage of beasts and you can't actually have a sensible conversation about anything anymore concerning this because immediately met up with people that just don't want to have that.
You know, trans activists were there to have their voices heard to, you know, raise awareness of their issue.
And then when I tried to speak to them, they did not want their voices heard.
elijah schaffer
Because quite frankly, there's nobody that they hate more than white men than also straight white women, right?
And that's a real thing.
Because with the women, it's both attacks, not just on your sacred spaces.
It's attacks on the birth rate.
You know, it's attacks on Taylor Swift was named female year.
And I think people are like, well, why are men mad about this?
She's like the more successful than you.
And you go, well, that's the problem is her egg cart, her eggs are empty.
You know, she's getting older and she's not settling down.
And you're kind of asking, well, what do men value?
And men in a society values women, not just who are career women, but women who can birth a family.
And the fact that Taylor Swift doesn't promote family, she doesn't promote having kids.
How is she a good role model for young girls?
Like, well, she makes a lot of money.
Yeah, but do we, is that really the metric that we value women on?
And it's like, well, you know, like, yeah, it's like as a woman's space.
Like, do we really think women are good enough to be in a bathroom around a naked man that could assault them?
No, because we don't expect women to be that strong to fend off a man like that.
And we know how men are and we don't want men in those spaces.
And that's, it's, that's why sexism is good because sexism is, they always say, oh, sexism and the British are always like the firing for being sexist.
Oh, you mean acknowledging that there are biological, spiritual, and psychological differences between the way men and women their own bodies, their lives and think and act, and that we should conduct ourselves and operate in society in a way that is conducive to the welfare of both sexes.
Yeah, that's sexism.
And today they're like, oh, well, you know, they just stated the obvious.
Look, why are we trying to be the same?
Why are we trying to fight biology with this transsexual stuff?
Why don't we just go back to the basics?
Why have we questioned basic reality?
Men and women are different.
Men cannot be women.
Women cannot be men.
Whether or not women get pissed off with men and men get pissed off with women, we couldn't exist literally without each other.
And society functions the best when we're working not in competition, but in cohesion together.
And now we're destroying all of that.
And then we're like, well, our society isn't working.
Let's bring in some people who have nuclear families.
Let's just import Afghans.
Let's import freaking Pakistanis.
And it's like, wow, that's so crazy.
All the immigrant groups are growing and they're thriving in their own communities because they're having kids and they don't, they're not gay and they operate and they're still straight and have like, you know, regular sex and then get pregnant and shit, things that white people stop doing apparently because they would rather be a girl boss.
anna mcgovern
And I actually feel really sorry for young people as well, because they're growing up in a culture and a society where there's not really many role models, you know, sort of promoting the other side, you know, in terms of like the nuclear family, especially like TikTok as well.
You've got these in relationship influencers, you know, these women who are giving young women advice about never settle.
You know, you need to have sex with lots of different kind of people to life to the fullest.
And I think for, you know, for young women, that's especially damaging.
And it puts a lot of social pressure on them as well.
And with as many people as possible.
You know, I remember university halls as well, where they literally had a chart of like which flatmate has slept with the most people, you know, just grim things like that to kind of encourage each other forward.
And you don't really have many people who are actually saying, Hey, maybe you don't need to do this to live life to the fullest.
Maybe there's more to life than just having lots of random sex of different people.
And I think it's really important, especially for young people to have those role models to talk about that side because otherwise, you're just going to have young, you know, young children growing up in a generation, you know, growing up in a world where you have really bad advice being given to them.
And then they grow up with those values, perfect as the next culture.
And then it just keeps going on a downhill trend there.
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I'm joined in the studio by Anna.
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Apologies earlier for some of the glitches and some of the things going on.
It is the unfortunate reality of being in a fake country.
We were paid less today than normal to pretend that this country is real.
People know it's not, you know, people don't realize we're on the ceiling.
You know what I mean?
Like, because the country, like, we're a little bit, everything's flipped here.
And we have to, like, the CIA and like Mossad, actually, Israel pays us to fake it, right?
I mean, who's, I don't know who's behind it, but this is not a real country.
People don't even believe us.
anna mcgovern
Um, in turn, you mean the US, uh, just to no, yeah, Australia is not.
elijah schaffer
Well, you're doing good.
Australia is not a real country, it's not real.
anna mcgovern
Um, no, I mean, this is my first time here.
elijah schaffer
Are you being paid to pretend that this is real?
anna mcgovern
No, um, I am, um, I am, you know, I'm very confused now.
elijah schaffer
You didn't know that.
anna mcgovern
So I'm sorry.
I don't know.
elijah schaffer
You can break the character.
Do you know about this?
anna mcgovern
No, I don't know about this.
unidentified
Sorry.
elijah schaffer
So how much?
So we'll tell people how much we are paid.
There's like a good portion of people in the world that do not believe Australia is a real country.
anna mcgovern
Oh.
elijah schaffer
And they think that everyone's paid actors and that because we're too close to like the firmament or we're too close to the ice wall down in Antarctica or whatever or whatever.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Or the ice, the ice cap.
And they think that we're being paid.
And I'm not lying.
I've had people make videos about the show not being real.
So it's true.
Surprised you haven't heard about that.
anna mcgovern
No, I haven't.
unidentified
Wow.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
Well, that's even better.
I'm glad she must be getting paid more to pretend that she knows what's going on.
I want to continue to talk about some of the things that we were discussing, which is pretty insane, which is like, I've kind of gotten sick of people being open about how much they hate people like us, you know, people who love freedom, people who love what's going on.
One of the U.S. representatives, Jasmine Crockett from Texas, came out and she called everybody who lived in Florida and Texas as deplorable states because they passed conservative legislation.
And I hate seeing people get up this Anna.
It really pisses me off because this is a representative of the people who just is being honest.
Like, look, we hate everybody who votes differently than us.
Listen to this.
jasmine crockett
Organization, the Heritage Foundation loves Texas.
Oh, they love Texas.
They are voicing us some nonsense deals that somehow set this country on the wrong trajectory.
They send them to Texas.
They send them to Florida.
Every deplorable state that we can think about, they usually come in out of y'all's think tank.
But nevertheless, when we talk about protecting women, what we've seen is, say, in the state of Ohio, was one of the most recent states when their lawmakers didn't have the courage to do what they needed to do because, of course, we believe in ordering.
And because we believe in gerrymandering in this point of order.
I please that much.
unidentified
I move to strike her words.
jasmine crockett
Deplorable states.
unidentified
That's not a point of order.
Let the gentleman proceed.
The committee will suspend.
elijah schaffer
Anna, it's weird that she calls them deplorable, right?
And we heard this in the Trump election.
People who pass conservative legislation, they're deplorable.
They're degenerates.
They're disgusting.
I feel like this is not, this is a lack of decorum or it's even worse.
anna mcgovern
Yeah, it's an ideological stance.
And it's genuinely, I think we're seeing this a lot more.
In terms of like transgender and gender ideology issues in schools as well, we see this all across education.
So for example, someone I spoke to quite recently said that she has an eight-year-old in her child, in her class, who was a boy and transitioned into a girl, eight years old, because he, you know, he likes dolls.
So it must mean he's a girl.
So this is children as young as eight years old are now conforming into this ideology.
And I think it's because it's now, you know, fed into education for children, you know, from a very early age.
And it's concepts that they're far too young to actually have any understanding of.
So I think it's incredibly dangerous.
And it's not something that should be promoted in schools whatsoever.
elijah schaffer
No, no.
If you teach my son how to be transgender, I'd probably just kill you.
I would.
Like, I would, I would, I would, because that's abuse, right?
And I don't think there's anything wrong with, as a parent, feeling like you'd want to kill people who would abuse your child.
And that's 100%.
Now, obviously, I'm not promoting violence, YouTube.
I'm saying if you're a parent and you don't want to kill someone that has abused your child, then you're not a parent and you haven't been.
And I think people need to understand the severity of teaching children this stuff and the way that you're looking at these states.
Oh, well, parents want to protect their kids.
That's what this is.
Conservative legislation that they hate is power in the hands of parents.
And ultimately, what progressives and statists don't like is parents having autonomy to raise their children.
They want the state to raise their kid.
Am I wrong on that?
anna mcgovern
No, I absolutely agree that it's like they want the state to raise their children and the parents don't actually want to have a role in that anymore because when they send their kids off to school, it's like, okay, now it's a teacher's responsibility to raise them, but they're actually raising them with values that might go against what the parents actually want them to be raised on at home.
And children are now being fed this ideology that they don't have, you know, they're far too young to actually have any understanding over.
So for example, on TikTok as well, the Sacco and Jody family is one of the examples that I sort of refer to where they have a young child who's, you know, was a boy and now transitioned on TikTok to a girl.
And they're documenting his journey about his transition and going through like, you know, gender therapy, for example, how he's wearing now feminine clothing, wearing dresses, having sleepovers for the first, I think there was one recent video where he had a sleepover for the first time with another female classmate.
And, you know, it's just very strange that parents are capitalizing off their children's mental health problems and documenting it for social media for other people to actually see.
And especially such a young age as well, it's incredibly dangerous.
And you could do a lot of irreversible damage that maybe when they're older and decide, you know, that this is something that I didn't actually want.
And I made an irreversible decision that was far too young to understand.
And you can't go back on it.
And it's all online as well.
It's hard.
donald j trump
It is.
elijah schaffer
It is very difficult.
anna mcgovern
And what do you do as well for these children?
Because especially on platforms like TikTok as well, you've got children who are being exposed to content continuously on their for you pages.
They're just far too young to understand.
And they sort of sort of, you know, sort of absorb this ideology and narrative that's being perpetuated to them.
It's like, it's even like social media has now taken a role as well in parenting your children.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I'm a little bit alarmed.
You brought this up with TikTok.
I've been banned from talk many times, usually for really stupid reasons.
I just got my TikTok back, but for the last like month and a half for this show, when I'm looking for videos, I haven't had an account.
So I haven't been signed in.
It's been a raw app, meaning it has no idea what my age is.
It has no idea what I'm into.
And it doesn't know what's going on.
It started out very quickly with like some basic, like the first time I log in, there was like a girl has to be maybe 16, like dancing in an outfit that if I was her dad, I would be bringing some Sri Law, you know, to the house at that point.
Like I'm not letting my daughter, she's 16 and she's dressed like that on the internet dancing for strangers.
I'm joking, but like, girl, you're beyond grounded.
You don't get a phone.
You're gone.
And I look at that.
I'm going, okay, first of all, this is creepy.
You log onto the app and the first thing you're served are minors in like, like scantily clad like clothing.
And as time went on, it was really weird.
Like I didn't get a lot of that stuff.
So obviously it went away because I guess it still knows I'm not clicking on it.
But every once in a while, you would get like served an ad for like, I put some on Twitter, massage parlors in your area, like get the ending you desire.
And you're like, huh?
And then the next clip would be like a church, like, come to church on Sunday.
And, okay, my point was, was like, if you're a kid and you're browsing, even if you're not logged in, you're going to see some really effed up stuff.
Social media, I feel like it's really added a lot to the problems of what is going on in the world in terms of like, I don't know if you saw the expose of Arden Young on the Pornhub executives.
I'm not going to play it today's show.
I might play another show.
She's a good friend of mine, known her for many years.
But the Pornhub and the mind geek executives that own a lot of these companies, like Men.com or some and some trans site, explained how they really try to like they, that it's easy for kids to access porn.
They know that and that they try like they don't want people to have to go to a trans site to look at transsexual porn or a gay site to look at gay porn.
They're really trying to like edge in no pun intended, um transsexuals they kept using these phrases like trans women and stuff into straight porn that straight men consume, or bisexual stuff or gay stuff to try to bring it from separate sites into into the, the straight porn.
And then they said that they know that because young kids are looking at the porn and that it might help them see what they like and it might open them up to Lgbt ideas.
So these porn people literally know and admit that young people are being, are being influenced sexually by what they're seeing on the internet.
And i'm saying it's not just porn sites doing this, it's social media too, it's the stuff they're serving them.
Yes, of course porn is destructive and of course porn is is influencing children.
But social media is doing the same, programming and wiring where it's like they get on their those pages and they're seeing the sexual stuff.
They're seeing the trans stuff.
No way that you can be an 11 years old developing your sexuality and not get confused by being introduced to all this stuff at a time when you should be protected yeah, especially on tick tock as well.
anna mcgovern
I think the minimum a have to be to have an account is 13, but we know that children who are younger are actively using those platforms as well.
When you search something um like, let's say, if you search anything like Lgbt, Trans um gender, any of those key buzzwords, even just on a search, and then look for video, they kind of resonate with that you know, search that you've made.
It'll actually then go on your for you page far more um if, because they'll indicate that as an expression of interest and then that content will be perpetuated even more on places like your view page.
If you could have 13 year olds actively looking at this stuff, because they might have even searched it once.
That just to be like, what does this mean?
And then it comes up on a, you know, on a more regular basis on their page and then they're on and on again being repeated, um, you know, in stuff and this, you know stuff that they're too young to actually have any understanding over.
And i'm, you know, i'm very disturbed by some of the content that you see on tick tock as well.
Um, like there was one trend which was incredibly disturbing that um, someone brought my attention to where it had like 15 year olds going through what their body count was like.
Statistics like this is how many people i've kissed, this is how many people i've slept with, and they're children and it's just, you know.
Then they obviously see other children, see this, and then they kind of follow suit and again it's like that social pressure fit in and then blasting that all over the internet where it.
You know.
Again, that can never go away either.
Once it's out there.
It's out there.
It's just incredibly disturbing the kind of content that children and young people are now being fed fed, and it just keeps getting worse and parents don't seem to have any role in protecting them um, from this content as well, Especially when it's something that's just completely, you know, repetitively, repetitively put on their pages, on their social media channels.
elijah schaffer
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Katie in the chat said that you're adorable and that she loves your dress.
It's always nice when people are very kind.
Let's look at this here for a second.
This is a girl talking about her body count, and it's pretty insane.
unidentified
Listen, I'm a worker, and my body count would have to be in the tens of thousands.
Yeah.
So I've been doing this for six years on and off.
And for three of those years, I was in establishments.
And the way it works in establishments is you charge a lower price.
So that means you have to see lots of clients to make your money.
I'm independent now.
So I charge a higher price and see less clients.
I prefer it.
Everyone's different.
But yeah, I definitely would have seen a lot of people because it wasn't uncommon for me to do like tennis shift when I was back in establishments.
That being said, I have never actually counted how many people I've seen because I don't care.
Now, I do know that there were some people who did this, and usually it was inadvertently.
They were able to keep track because they like to write down how many times they saw a client to see how basically valuable that client was to their business in monetary terms.
I don't really keep data like this.
I probably should, but I don't.
So yeah, I just don't care.
I don't care.
It doesn't change anything.
Yes, all it means is I'm very experienced and good at what I do.
I have a lot of skills, right?
Like you'd pick that up after you've been with that many people.
You pick up some skills.
But guys, your is not enough to change a woman.
It is not a magical, mystical, important, powerful thing that just by touching us can change our very soul and essence and irrevocably, you know, change us forever.
It just won't.
It's not that you're not in that important sweetie.
You're just not that important.
And it reminds me of sometimes I get clients who are like, oh, I want to be the first of the morning.
Like somehow my hoo-ha like magically resets overnight and I become a virgin.
Like I use barrier protection and I shower between bookings.
Like there is no reason why you need to be the first of the bookings.
I am a human being.
I cannot be sloppy seconds.
I am not chewing gum that gets chewed up.
I am a human being.
anna mcgovern
That doesn't make any sense.
What do you mean?
She's like, with multiple people.
It's like this is the fact she's posting that and she's actually proud of it as well.
She's saying all of that.
And she's saying a sense of pride.
I could just sense this energy where she just really hates men as well.
And then despite it hates men, sleeping around with all of them, making that her career.
And it's like, wow, look at me.
Look how, you know, look how amazing I am.
I'm going to promote this all over the media.
Girl boss.
Like, no, it's not, it's not, you know, something that we should really celebrate.
It's just a bit embarrassing.
Oh, her voice.
That hurt my ears when she started speaking.
elijah schaffer
She's like, this is one thing I don't understand about women as well with this stuff is there's nothing more annoying than a feministy woman who's like, just thinks she's entitled and somehow like she's better than men, and I hate this.
I think she's a hooker.
People don't know prostitution is legal in, I think, most Western countries, the United States.
I don't know if prostitution is legal in Las Vegas, but I can tell you, if you sit alone at a bar long enough, some hot chick will talk to you and the cost is not going to be dinner, she'll.
She'll let you know it's going to be a lot more.
So there's a lot of hookers in Vegas.
I don't know if that's legal.
However, this is an increasingly popular trade because prostitution right, we have digital brothels now.
Only fans is a digital brothel.
I've always loved this idea.
In America, you can't solicit sex and pay for it with a woman, and a woman can't receive money unless you're filming it and posting on the internet so kids can access it like.
You know what I'm saying, unless you're filming and turning it into pornography, you're not allowed to pay for sex.
Why is it that you can film sex, put it on the internet and that's legal.
But if you just have sex in a hotel room for money, you can go to jail.
anna mcgovern
Oh, this is not weird, it's very strange and I don't think that this thing regardless, we should be encouraging at all.
It's just uh, the very antithesis of our cult.
You know what should be our culture, and the fact that she's probably be.
I bet you she's probably being celebrated online by, you know, certain side of people, just like going queen girl Boss like wow, you go girl, and um, you know, getting paid essentially to sleep around of lots of different men but then just seeming to hate them so much all at the same time um, I just, I just genuinely am speechless about it.
It's not something that we should be encouraging, it's just disgusting really.
I think.
elijah schaffer
Well, but you've set yourself up as meat and so you're probably seeing the worst sides of that.
Like, if you're as a prostitute, you're probably getting guys mostly under the influence of alcohol and I would I mean, I don't think people are able to really perform sexually well on cocaine, but let's just say that they're probably not in the the best season of life or the best point of the night, and the idea that people are just like hey, i'm not a piece of meat.
It's like she's like i'm not a piece of meat, but i've also had sex with tens of thousands of men and you're like, ma'am, it doesn't make any sense, that is, but that was voluntary right, like I mean obviously, if she was raped or human trafficked or something like that, we don't want to make fun of that.
That's, that's horrifying and and we we, we condemn that.
But like girls a lot of times are living lifestyles and then they're like, why do people treat me like i'm a piece of meat?
Because you are.
And it's like like girls walk around whoring themselves out and going like, oh, I wonder why I good guy, it's because you're a whore and and like I mean you, you can, you can get sex.
This is what girls don't understand.
You can get sex.
Guys will give you sex, but they're not going to give you a relationship, they're not going to give you children, and if they give you a child, they're probably going to leave you and be a deadbeat dad, because that's not.
That doesn't attract good men.
I don't know why women think.
I don't know why women think that they can be treated like a queen and that they have value, when they don't even value themselves.
This is like what I don't understand.
It's like you live like you're a little prostitute, you've lost all your physical value, you despise men and you still want to be treated nicely and fairly, and it's like you don't live in the real world.
Bitch sorry, you just don't, you know.
anna mcgovern
No, you can't have it both ways.
And I again, as I said earlier on show um, I feel incredibly sorry for the younger people who are now watching this and thinking that this is normal and something that we're, you know, you're celebrated for online, which is why she's putting it online.
For attention, she's putting it online because she wants people to celebrate her um, you know, for you know, taking control of her sexuality, going out and sleeping with as many people as possible and then, when this is normalized, especially on the internet, and for, you know, for young people as well, consuming that content.
That creates a lot of social pressure to go out and do this very thing.
And I think we actually need people speaking up against this and just providing more role people, a role model sorry, um that young people can actually subscribe to and follow um to actually, you know, go against this world, because I think, if we have, we see such an influx of this on the internet, and not enough of the other side, I think.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, have you seen this?
We're talking about women here.
This is like one of the most chaotic things.
This is another example of women not respecting themselves.
Um, let's talk about divorce.
Okay, really default divorce, majority of divorces, look I if if you've been married and there's not, maybe not in the beginning, maybe not like where i'm at now, but let's just say you've been married for more than 10 years, realistically more than two years.
But if you haven't a wanted to strangle your partner and kill them and I mean that both jokingly and maybe seriously not but if you haven't wanted to, like just punch them in the face and girls too, slap them.
If you haven't been days where you're like this person, you're probably not in a long-term relationship because and people go, that's so cruel.
I've never thought that.
You ever thought that about yourself.
Even you've ever done something and been like me like ah, i'm such a freaking idiot, or like you've never even thought about yourself in that way.
Yes, you've thought about yourself like i'm retarded, I suck, and so in a relationship, you know, half the time you have to realize about 90% of the issues are with yourself.
You cannot control the other person.
And they could be the best man or woman in the world, but on the merit of just being a man and being a woman and living together, there's just inherent differences that will drive you both crazy sometimes.
That's just normal, right?
I love my son.
He doesn't really do anything wrong.
He's eight months old.
Sometimes he still drives me nuts because he's screaming and stuff.
And it's like, cause he's a baby.
And that's fine.
That doesn't mean I don't like him.
But I think what happens now is that people have this fairytale combination of fairytale understanding of what marriage and family is, that it's supposed to be just butterflies and gumdrops and just hot sex and we get along 24 hours a day paired with narcissism.
It's all my partner's fault.
It's like, well, you know, my wife's a bitch or, you know, my husband is just kind of lazy.
And it's like, okay, but what could you do better?
You know what I mean?
Like half the time, you know, a marriage takes two people and people are always blaming the other partner.
And it's like, both partners are just taking the most responsibility they can of themselves and doing the most they can.
A marriage takes two people to ruin it and two people to make it work.
And so you've got to come together and make it work.
And no fault divorce is the bane of existence because they're like, well, we've had a bad year.
Maybe you will have a bad year.
You don't divorce.
It's, you don't divorce.
I don't, I'm just a real style against divorce.
And a lot of people I know are too.
And I feel like people today just take divorce as this like, like, why even get married if you're planning on divorcing?
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
anna mcgovern
I think, you know, marriage should be viewed as a lifelong commitment when you're having that with someone.
And I actually saw a video recently of this woman who was saying, you know, I got married, then I got divorced again.
And then I found someone else a couple of years later, got married to him, then divorced.
And now, then I got engaged when I was 28, 29, then ended that as well.
And she was, she was like saying something along the lines of, you know, don't care about these men.
Do what's best for you.
But actually, it's almost like the importance of marriage and what it's meant to be as an institution is actually now being denigrated.
And just the fact you could just easily walk away from something that should be a little commitment.
I just think it absolutely denigrates what the purpose of it should be and the importance that it should be in society and for building families.
elijah schaffer
Check this out.
You're going to love this.
This is a divorced woman.
Here's her life as a divorced woman.
Oh, no.
unidentified
Welcome to a day in my life as a living nanny to my own children.
First thing I do when I wake up is head over to my baby daddy's house that is only 15 steps from my front door where I have the right to walk in and out as I please.
I brush his children's hair and chat with his wife about how she should leave him for me.
After I take the children to school, I then have the school hours to do as I please.
So today I'm finally taking care of prepping my empty house for future tenants.
I drop off my most recent Facebook marketplace find and head over to my favorite laundromat to socialize with the locals before having to head back to the kids' school because one of them is sick and has to go home early.
That kid had her birthday party planned for the next day, but that party is now canceled.
I start prepping the guest room for our guest that is literally on a plane on her way to visit and has no fear of catching whatever this kid has or may not have because she is clearly just fine.
My day is not done.
No, I tend to more housework before my own work from home career.
I'm a freelance photographer and have an ungodly amount of editing to do.
The rest of the kids I nanny come home from school and I take them to watch the sunset.
I get pissed on by their asshole dog and I'm just over at this point.
I shower and put my two weeks in over dinner.
elijah schaffer
Oh my God.
That was chaotic, right?
anna mcgovern
What does, did she say live in nanny for my own children?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so apparently they like, she lives next door to her ex and then can go.
Okay, I, this sounds really weird, but maybe this is why I believe in like I support polyamory.
Might as well just be a thruple and at least like have a good time than pretend whatever this is.
This looks more expensive than just being polyamorous.
But this is the same thing.
You're like living together and you're operating.
I couldn't do, dude.
Oh my, as a woman, could you do this?
Have another woman, your husband's ex coming in all the time?
anna mcgovern
No, absolutely not.
And I think especially the children as well.
That must be so confusing.
And, you know, I just think it's insane.
I've never seen anything like that at all.
I'm not necessarily saying being a frapple is the answer.
Something we should be encouraging, but just that whole setup being chaos.
It is almost like she wanted people to validate her sort of crazy, messed up life that she was sort of putting out there on social media.
Just very, very strange.
What are you doing?
elijah schaffer
I literally cannot tell you.
We have more videos, great videos of women here who are out here doing this.
anna mcgovern
So many endless.
elijah schaffer
Well, I brought this up about narcissistic because everyone's just such a narcissist.
This is also weird to me as well.
This mother has decided that, you know, she has this anxiety disorder.
And I, I really actually do trivialize mental health on this show because I am 100% confident that shows that mental health is directly, directly connected to your decisions and your decisions are connected to your environment.
So I do feel bad about the mental health of children who don't have choices over their environment.
But if you have a choice over your environment, changing it, you need to figure that out.
And here's what I mean.
You know, a lot of people are like, wow, look, I have a lot of anxiety, but they eat shit food.
They don't exercise.
They don't get sunlight.
They drink a lot of alcohol or they do drugs or they're partying on the weekend.
And it's like, wow, you have high cortisol levels and stress because A, you have chemicals going into your body that are destroying your body.
B, because you're making decisions and you're sending risky tests, things that you don't remember.
And C, because you're instead of having good rest over the weekend, you're partying.
And so you're never giving your body good REM sleep in a reset.
And so your body's disjointed.
unidentified
Wow.
elijah schaffer
Why don't you take some benzos, pop some Xanax?
That'll fix it.
No, it's like, dude, oh, I'm depressed.
And it's like, dude, you, you're what, 23 years old.
You don't have any friends.
You masturbate compulsively to pornography.
Well, I'd be depressed too.
And it's like, well, I don't know how to stop.
And it's like, okay, that's a different story, but we're in bad mental health because our decisions.
No one wants to take responsibility for that.
We are making bad decisions for our lives and our health.
And that's why we have bad mental health.
And we are not relying on God and we are not relying on peace and anything that comes from God.
We are pretending like we were designed from nothing.
And the whole world's history is that we came from nothing.
Then World War II happened and then the Holocaust.
And now we're here.
And that's like everybody's understanding of what happened in the world.
It's like, no, you have thousands of years of rich history.
There's years of religious commitment and practice and things that you can hold on to.
But everyone wants to just pretend like the world's about drinking on the weekends and doing whatever the hell you want and just being, you know, a fun, a fun person that's, you know, caring and all this bullshit.
Meanwhile, inside they're miserable, upset, they're depressed.
And it's like, why?
It's because your life fucking blows.
I mean, I'll be honest.
And I'm not saying that depression, anxiety aren't real parts of growing up and figuring out your life.
I'm just saying I think a lot of it's avoidable.
If we had a society that gave a shit and that's not an excuse, then you've got to give a shit yourself and figure it out because you can't live on SSRIs.
You can't live on antidepressants.
You can't live like this.
You've got to put in the work to fix your mind.
That's all.
Maybe you disagree with me, but I think that's the truth.
You've got to put in the work because if you don't, you're going to end up like a fat fucking retard that's depressed.
And like a lot of men in the United States, eventually you're going to end up killing yourself honestly because you didn't get help.
So if you're out there depressed and you're suicidal, this is my lesson to you right now.
A lot of people do go through with it.
So don't.
And the reason why they go through with it is they didn't get help.
So go get help.
And help isn't just medicine.
Help is improving your life.
It's improving your life.
But I think everyone today is like, they think they have to live with anxiety and depression.
It's like, I just have anxiety.
It's like, bitch, you don't have to live with that.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, everyone's identified by these mental disorders.
And it's like, that should just be a season of life.
And that should be a sign there's something wrong.
And you should see the issue, not just take pills to cover it up.
anna mcgovern
I think social media has caused a lot of this as well.
You see these idealized lives.
It's all fake.
It's all put on.
They probably spend hours putting together these, you know, day in my life or what have I eaten in the day?
And then spending, you know, time, like it's complete narcissism, spending time, you know, but, you know, putting together this sort of, you know, showcase of a very small portion of their day and perpetuating on social media and perpetuating ideas that I think are, you know, genuinely very dangerous for young people.
I think as well, we do have a mental health crisis in young people and men as well.
It's a huge mental health crisis.
It's not talked about enough.
And I think a lot of these things like social media are causing this.
And it's almost like, you know, you need to sort of take a look at your own life.
What can you do to make your life better?
What can you do to improve the situation that you're currently in?
And I think it resonates a lot with what you said as well.
You know, you're anxious, you're depressed.
There are some, some people genuinely have a mental illness.
But at the same time, if they're identify what is causing that, get help, change a situation, do something about it.
Don't just sit there and make excuses saying, I'm depressed and do nothing because then you're not going to help yourself.
elijah schaffer
Well, there is an alternate here, which is whatever this woman's doing, which is relying on her kids to help her when she has panic attacks.
anna mcgovern
Oh, God.
unidentified
Dazzle, where are my fingers, okay?
Want to do the other one again?
Then we'll give you another hug.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Wait, where's this woman's husband?
That's what I want to know.
anna mcgovern
Like, I don't know if this is, you know, would anyone agree?
Isn't this just child abuse?
elijah schaffer
It's Facebook.
A lot of people would agree.
anna mcgovern
Like, a lot, you know, you're relying on your five-year-old to look at your mental health.
I think that's something deeply disturbing with you if you're having to resort to that.
And I think she must be a very deeply troubled woman.
And the fact she's, she's actually must have set up.
Let's just remember, she set up the camera as well before she's had her apparent panic attack and then got her five-year-old on there doing like whatever she does to calm her down.
But she says up, it's all like, you know, again, it's complete narcissism.
Yet again, you're doing it for engagement for likes to have people validate you in the comment section.
And I just, you're taking advantage of, you know, young children as well, putting them out there as well, just to fulfill your ego.
It's just, it's just horrific.
elijah schaffer
It's weird to me too, that like with women that they would film it.
Like, I don't know what happens.
You're just sitting there and you're like, I'm having a panic attack here.
Do this.
And you start filming yourself and you're like, it's, it's, it's a lack of stability.
And women out there, like, look, women are already crazy and that's okay.
Right.
Like, and the fact is that the fact that women are going on TV and suing people for sexism, misogyny and stuff to prove they're not crazy.
You know how fucking crazy that is?
Suing someone for sexism and misogyny?
That literally means you are like a psychopath.
And this is happening every day around the world.
Right.
And so like the fact that women are always trying to prove I'm not crazy, I'm not crazy.
And then they're acting crazy.
That's what this reminds me of.
A woman's like, look, I'm a good mom.
I'm a good mom.
Like, I'm not a crazy woman.
I've taught my kids to calm me down.
You're like, bitch, get off the internet.
Why are your children online?
And I'm, I'm honestly of, of the, of the faction, I don't want my children online.
Like, I do not put my son's face online at all because like, obviously, like somebody was like some wedding and they're like, oh my gosh, I'm putting pictures up of your son.
I'm like, okay, that's different.
Like, I don't look, I don't, there's my son's not design a hit on him.
What I'm saying is I don't want to make my son a celebrity on the internet or something because he's a child and I and I and his privacy, it's our family's decision together.
And I want to make sure he's protected from the internet because the internet is full of weirdos and creeps.
And right now, as his parent, I should be the only person.
Like, oh, someone's like, oh, so you made other decisions for your son.
Yeah, I can go see my son naked in the bathtub too.
Doesn't mean I'm going to film it and put it on the fucking internet.
Like right now, my son's privacy is like for his mom and me.
Oh, well, you know, it's like the same reason why my wife isn't going to pull her boob out on the show.
She breastfeeds at home.
There's something that should be for home only for privacy.
Like, is breastfeeding gross?
No.
Is it bad?
No, it's beautiful.
But it should be done in the, in privacy.
And women today are doing the same thing.
They're taking their tits out and they're pulling their nipples out on TikTok and stuff and just start breastfeeding babies.
And you're like, okay, is anything private anymore?
Is anything that's a sacred moment between you and your baby?
And now we're like, why?
anna mcgovern
Why is it on the internet?
elijah schaffer
Why is everything happening?
Not on the internet.
It's not even like it's on a breastfeeding site and a woman's learning how to breastfeed.
It's like, why is everything on social media to strangers?
Like, what, why are, why are we doing this?
anna mcgovern
And it reminds me as well of a transgender woman, a man, who was breastfeeding a baby as well and put that on the internet, which I just thought was that was even, you know, that's just horrific, even worse.
It also reminds me of like these family YouTubers who like vlogged their lives.
And it reminds me of a video I saw where there was this mom and his son in the car and she was like trying to get a thumbnail shot, like trying to make him pretend to cry.
I don't know if you know what video I'm saying.
elijah schaffer
I remember this one.
anna mcgovern
But to be fair, there's probably many like it.
And just for clickbait, it's just, again, it's like, you're capitalizing off your children validation on the internet.
And why are you so obsessed with putting your entire life out?
And what does it benefit other than just stroking your ego and making you feel good at the expense normally of your children who are kind of forced into that and without their consent generally because they're very young and you know, they can't really consent to being filmed on YouTube.
You just never know.
They just sort of follow along with what their parents do for them.
So yeah, I just think it's incredibly sad, these poor children.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
elijah schaffer
And I think one thing the consenting part isn't really the biggest issue.
I think it's more of like just realizing that that being online, people do really weird stuff with 100%.
Like I found out there was this page that like there was Instagram of this problem with child pornography, which from so I didn't know this and I'm glad I didn't know this and you probably don't know this of like sort of one of the gateways people find child pornography.
So social media sites will have like pages dedicated to let's say this is so disgusting and I don't even like to say this.
I would I wish we could kill these people that do this.
Like I think we should execute them on TV.
We should genuinely just put guns to their head on live broadcasting and blow the heads off of people from the government, by the way.
So I'm not saying vigilante justice, just boom, the government should kill people who sexually abuse babies and children, but like they'll have like a page like dedicated like good looking or like attractive babies, but they're like, but they're labeled like something like, you know, like future or different things, like babies and diapers and stuff.
And so it's not overtly sexual, but I don't need to get graphic here because we all know what people do to this stuff.
Apparently, it was gatewaying into actual child pornography.
But here's the catch.
People apparently were obviously getting off to that stuff.
I don't even want to think about it.
But the pictures of the babies in the diapers, the reason why I got found is because moms were finding pictures of their babies that weren't being abused still on these sites, like little babies in diapers.
And I don't want like, dude, even if some guy. was aroused by my baby, I want to kill him.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't even care if you've committed the crime.
You think about my baby like that?
I'm fucking killing you.
So to me, it's like, like with a baby and this stuff is you have to realize the world is perverted and sick and your children.
And like also remember, it's not just sexual, the emotional abuse and the manipulation.
You do not want your kids on the internet.
I don't care how much of your family is on it and people are telling you, don't buy your children a phone.
Don't give your kids social media.
And, you know, if you want to work when they're a teenager and work with them on it, that's fine.
I have a feeling people shouldn't be allowed on the internet without parental supervision until they can vote.
That's my personal opinion, or at least age of consent, which I know is lower in some countries, like here in Canada, I think it's 16.
So at least until you can legally have sex with the stranger, then okay, fine, go on the internet.
But until then, how could you, how can you go on the internet at 12, but you can't have sex with a stranger till you're 18?
That's the same thing.
It's like, yeah, that's just as dangerous and risky.
anna mcgovern
And I think it might have been from, you know, like mothers, they might have just been sharing a picture of their baby, like, oh, look, it's my child or something, completely innocently putting that on the internet, thinking nothing of it.
And then you've got people with very evil and paedophilic intentions taking that and then using it for their own ends and putting it on some awful place on the internet that people are, you know, then exploiting.
You know, the children are like babies exploited.
And I think you've got to be very, very careful what you're actually putting of your children on the internet because you've got sick people out there.
And I think it's now getting even worse.
I think, especially, I'm going to say the last few years, honestly, I just think it's been getting, this culture's been getting a lot worse on social media.
And I think, especially as a child, it's a lot more dangerous to now have social media accounts to be on the internet.
And a lot of these parents will let their child, they'll have their children will have a phone from a very young age, have completely unfiltered access to whatever websites, whatever social media account that they want.
And there's very little supervision with that.
We can't really trust social media companies to be supervising your kids either.
It's something that you should be doing.
And I think it's actually, it's incredibly dangerous, I think, for children to have social media channels at all.
Like there has to be, I think, parental supervision, at least when you're, you know, if your child is using that, you know, those platforms, because I think it's too dangerous if they're just there on their own with no filters, no, you know, free to access whatever they want.
elijah schaffer
Right.
It's, I'm trying to understand.
I'm trying to understand why people think that it's okay to let kids go on the internet because I, my parents didn't know.
And I understand that.
But like, you know, I found pornography really quickly as a young kid and we're talking very young and it wasn't on purpose.
And today it's even more aggressive.
I don't know if you guys can hear them in the background, but I guess someone's doing construction in the middle of the show.
I'm telling you, I am telling you, by the way, it is the most frustrating thing trying to run an American show here in Australia right now.
And the moment I can get back to the United States, I will be back because I, as much as I love Australia, there is nothing that better than just being in America.
To me, America is the greatest place in the world.
Just stay away from black cities.
That's just the truth.
Black people are very violent in the United States and solve that problem.
And if you don't, do you know that?
That like in black cities, I mean, in cities, like up to 90% of the crime is by black people, violent crime.
And they make up a small portion.
And people always think America is this violent place.
And it's like, there are some areas that are violent, but even in Sweden, there's like Muslim no-go zones and stuff.
African-American gang violence is one of the greatest issues in the United States.
It's actually an extremely safe place if you live in certain areas, but the gangs are fucked up.
anna mcgovern
I mean, I don't want to start saying that all black people are, you know, responsible for all.
Just to be clear, I think it's probably caused by the fact, you know, as we were talking about at the beginning of the show, the fact that we have an uncontrolled Asian crisis and then you have people coming into the country who don't share the same values and then are committing more crime because they're not assimilated to our culture.
elijah schaffer
But we already have that.
So the UK and here has that problem now.
We've had this problem for a lot longer.
Ours is mostly just like descendants from slaves that are like, they, by the way, used to do well and then they got in the victim mindset.
So they're in the same mindset of like immigrants.
We get free food, free shelter.
So the dads don't stay home and there's just like chaos in the neighborhoods and the crime is insane.
And no one wants to talk about it because nobody wants to talk about it because they don't want to be seen as racist.
You know what's more racist than talking about it?
Letting people in your country be killed, robbed, and their stores looted so that you look good on camera.
How about we just solve the issue?
And people that are black that are not committing crime should have no problem.
And there's a lot of great black people out there.
And we're not talking about rounding up people because of the color of their skin.
We're talking about rounding up people that are criminal.
anna mcgovern
Yeah, absolutely.
elijah schaffer
And even if you're white, you get rounded up too.
So it's like, I don't really care, but we've got to do something about these issues in our countries because London has some of the same.
London's a shithole.
anna mcgovern
Oh, yeah.
elijah schaffer
What happened to that?
anna mcgovern
I know.
I came.
So before in Australia, before I came to Australia, I was in London and it's absolutely rampant.
The rate of crime that it's incredibly dangerous to be there.
Like genuinely, you could be walking down the street and someone could be coming towards you on a bike, take your phone out of your hand and cycle off.
You'll do that again because also our police forces in the UK are just completely incompetent as well.
So basically rampant crime and we don't have a competent police force to actually be able to control any of that either.
I'm sure you all have seen what's been happening in London with the protests.
It's incredibly dangerous place and violent place to be at the moment and just, you know, incredibly christophic.
And for me, I personally did not miss it when I came out to Australia.
It was just completely different.
It's just, you know, it's definitely, especially I think the Israel, again, Israel and Palestine, when all of that, you know, started coming to the surface that have been reported by the media, that brought incited a lot of violence in London.
elijah schaffer
Did it really?
anna mcgovern
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
And especially.
elijah schaffer
Because they're Muslims, right?
You have all these Muslim immigrants coming in that are all Arab and they're all foreigners and they obviously hate Israel.
I mean, Arabs do not like Israel.
Let's be completely honest.
And London is like, London's only 36% white now, I saw it, or native British.
anna mcgovern
Yeah, it's a majority, ethnic minority.
Yeah, now.
elijah schaffer
So then it's not ethnic minority now.
White people are the minority.
anna mcgovern
Yeah.
Well, sorry.
Yes, white people are the minority in London.
And again, you're seeing huge incitement and violence there.
It's incredibly dangerous to be in London.
And yeah, personally, I do not miss London at all right now.
elijah schaffer
It's so, you know what?
It's so crazy.
I think, let's see, between the United States, have you been to the United States before?
anna mcgovern
Many years ago it was only for a few days.
elijah schaffer
You'll have to go.
When I come back, you'll have to come visit and come uh, get connected.
You gotta go, gotta go on some shows there.
They need to get more people from these other countries, because what I want people to see and what I want people to understand and one of the reasons obviously I love Australians because my wife is Australian and I love her I don't like Australians because they were handling a beautiful country that was near perfect and they've wasted it.
Um, they've allowed the banks to do what they done in the United, inflate the country, jack the interest rates.
They've allowed this.
Look, i'm not going to say who's done it here, i'll just go research their names and you can quickly see the groups that are responsible.
I'm not going to waste my time on that, but they have done the same things.
The Uk similarly, and I need people to realize this is an organized anti-white genocide of people in their own country and it's not payback, like I read some things, like some black, oh then you shouldn't have messed with Africa if you didn't want Africans.
I go, no, that's not what's happening.
Okay, it's not like a bunch of black people just getting on boats in the Mediterranean and cover coming over.
There's NGOS paying for this okay, and it's being allowed by the?
U.N.
And by the governments.
Why so?
It's it?
And the people are coming because they're being displaced, not because of colonization, it's because of, like Zionist wars with the Us, the it's really the?
U.s.
And Israel displacing a lot of people in the Middle East.
Yemen right, and it's crazy to me, Yemen was one of the big ones Syria Libya Iraq Afghanistan, and now, of course, they want to resettle two million Gazans into the west as well, and also another 25 000 Afghans.
In Pakistan I just saw today they want to resettle another 25 000 Afghans.
This is a systematic flux change in our countries by unelected bureaucrats in the EU, by unelected bureaucrats even here that are, that are a part of the Economic Forum and THE?
U.
And the United States, and these bureaucracies that have decided to make our countries multicultural, which is a very fancy politically correct term for saying less white.
And the problem with this is outside of just the fundamental rise in crime and lack of assimilation uh, which they always point to will change in generations, which it's not, it's proving not to be true, which we knew it was a lie, is a loss of shared identity, a loss of cohesion.
And now all countries are basically, rather than progressing in science technology engineering, instead of us growing and and fighting together as a country, are worried about uh grievance politics.
Oh, how are gay people treated?
How are trans people treated?
How are Muslims treated?
And it's all about complaining about who doesn't get enough free stuff and who's not, who's being discriminated against, rather than just working for the better of our people, and all while we're distracted about racism and sexism and homophobia.
Everything's getting more expensive, housing's unaffordable uh, education is less valuable, wages continue to shrink as prices go up and we are left with a shithole of a society.
And they're like, well, at least we're not racist, Racist and homophobic anymore.
And you're like, you know what?
I feel a little gay because somebody's bending me over every day and fucking me in the ass.
And it's when I go to the grocery store, when I pay my electric bill, which was $1,175 here, by the way, which in real money is about 800 bucks.
This has the seventh highest electricity in the world in Australia.
The city that we're in here, I think, is the third highest in the world.
And they also have the highest lithium deposits of any country, I believe, in the world, which means the energy should be the cheapest in the world here, but it's in the top 10 most expensive.
That's the shit because they're sending it all to fucking China so they have cheap energy because they want to burn, they want renewable energy here.
They don't want to, oh, I fucking so like caught up.
But I'm just saying, like, it's like, it's not about being racist.
You fucking cunt.
Like, it's about protecting your people, your sovereignty, your nation, your offspring, and realizing that these people are destroying you.
They don't need to go to war.
You can't beat the UK in a war.
You can't beat France in a war.
You can't beat the United States in a war.
We're very powerful.
Well, how do you destroy our countries from the inside?
anna mcgovern
Oh, no, I absolutely agree.
And I think a lot of these, you know, stories comes to, you know, racism, for example, it's all used a distraction technique, I think, to kind of distract us from what the real problems are.
We're not really talking about enough.
And I think a lot of the problems that we face in the UK, the US, Australia, and other countries are interlinked.
We're all talking, you know, we're all facing the same problems in potentially different ways because of the countries at a different setup.
But we're almost distracting ourselves with issues that don't necessarily matter when you've got people's lives, you know, turned over, especially like let's have example COVID lockdowns, people into compliance by the UK government, for example.
They were actually trying to use scare techniques to actually get people to just comply without any question because they just want they wanted people to comply with what they were saying.
And they're putting out this messaging to make sure that people would stay in the home.
You're getting prosecuted for going for a walk with a coffee.
It's ridiculous.
And again, as I was saying, a lot of this stuff is user distraction technique and we need to talk about things that really matter, affect people's not, you know, things like, you know, oh, racism.
Oh, I got a little bit offended by this thing that doesn't matter.
And then it's like blasted all over the media.
It's all distraction, I think.
elijah schaffer
It absolutely is.
I want to read a couple of super chats here of some people that just these in.
Thank you guys for sending super chats on Rumble.
We do appreciate it.
Shauna Fong said that the vector patrolled Nikki Haley FNF style.
He did.
We did watch that earlier on the show.
We also had, I think, a super chat earlier in the show as well from someone in Cocteau.
It's a fin for the Realist Show on Rumble and one of the best on censored TV as well.
That's really awesome.
We also appreciate you guys doing that.
If you guys are watching on locals, you can join the community and you can continue to chat with us live.
We had a couple there as well.
A few of you guys had said, let me see here.
Toxic Voice had said, I guess we can share this tab instead.
Let me bring this up.
He just sent a meme of him beheading me, Vivek.
That's a really weird picture of me, but it's real.
And also, why are you gay said we are sick?
Okay, I'm not reading that.
And then also told me to relax.
Yeah, well, what it is, is it just gets stressful.
Like we are in a little mini sound stage, little mini.
unidentified
Probably used to be an old clown, I think, probably.
anna mcgovern
It looks like it could be.
Yeah, it's quite small.
You know, it's a small studio.
Yeah.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
It looks like it could have been a classroom.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
But it's got like, what, 20-foot ceilings or something?
You don't need to feed Haunts.
Like, maybe like what?
Six, seven-meter ceilings?
anna mcgovern
Something like that.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah.
So it's got the ability to hang stuff and make a studio.
But try to run this in this country.
I feel like we always are in some problem.
Like it's either Rumble is having a problem, the website.
And I mean this in a flux, like grass with me here.
I'm not complaining.
I mean, it's like contents in general in a flux because like I've had some offers recently, recently, like some biggers to basically be continue to be more networky and to sort of like start something a little more in line.
I used to work for Blaze TV.
I worked with Fox News a lot and different.
publications.
And they kind of were like, hey, do you want to kind of work in this, in this regard?
And it's really nice if you just work in there, but I've already worked in that for five years and I'm tired of not being able to really speak my mind.
I hate getting those calls, those messages to pull your tweets down.
It's a really good paycheck.
It's just so restrictive.
Why they're restrictive, though, and this is why I don't talk shit.
And I still work with a lot of these people is because it's a really hard environment to be successful in media.
They censor and shadow ban and destruct like literally everything.
And it's really tough.
And then they artificially inflate the other people.
So it's like, it's not just like right-wing content gets thwarted.
Their content gets a boost.
So whatever views you were going to get, they get the extra views as well.
So it's really hard if you're independent to really work.
So what I mean, we're in a flux, meaning it's hard for me to even know what kind of content to make or how to grow or how to expand the show because every time I have a good idea, I'm like, like I said, I have some other YouTube channels I'm not using where it's like, do I even want to put content on YouTube?
unidentified
Do you know what I mean?
elijah schaffer
Like is it even worth making videos on YouTube if for the right-wing mind?
Because they'll just destroy you.
Every channel you build, they'll destroy it.
So is it worth putting two years into building up a new channel?
I don't know, but I know you feel the kind of because you're working with some publications.
You're working in right-wing media.
How's that going?
anna mcgovern
No, because I've seen this before on the, you know, I've also seen it from the behind the scenes side.
And it's interesting how much power like very young early 20s producers actually have over the discourse of, you know, social media.
For example, you know, you can have one person choose a story and decide that's the one that they're going to put out on like an outlet social media channel.
And that might be the story of the day.
And that's decided maybe by one or two people.
And it's just, for me, it's just mind-blowing that, you know, we have these conversations, but they're actually decided, these conversations are initiated by maybe like one or two people behind like maybe say a major outlet.
And it's just it also as well, you went with the producers as well, they have a lot of power over who goes on certain shows and the kind of people that they will promote.
And normally, I think from what I've seen, from my experience, what I've heard, it will generally be people, you know, will be safe and will say things that will give them growth.
Oh, go, you know, say something that's a bit too edgy, a bit too controversial and out there, which I think is why genuinely talented people who have something really good to say will actually get de-platformed or not shown on those outlets because they're too scared of what they might say when they're live in case they, you know, push the boundaries a little bit too much.
So they are, from what I've seen, they'll generally go with people that are quite safe to put on there and will say quite just very, you know, not very, not very out to their opinion, just quite benign, I think, you know, just something, you know, very just, I can't even describe it, just something that is not going to test the waters in any way from their perspective, their narrative.
elijah schaffer
Right.
It's also quite strange too, that like you said, with the amount of few people that control things.
That's when people are like, why do you say that there's small groups of people that control everything?
And I go, because I've seen it and I've gotten the calls and I've gotten the messages.
And even now, like I've had people be like, basically, like, I'm going to cut, you know, work ties with you if you don't change your tune.
And it's like, and I watch people compromise for those relationships.
I just saw somebody, I'm not going to mention because I don't want to be rude to people, but somebody who's like supposed to be this devout Christian starts working for this really interesting individual who I won't go any further basically violates like every commandment of the Bible.
And but it's not just like they work for them because you can all work for weird people.
They show with them now and they like kind of promote them and are like really supportive, but just because it pays well and it's a good opportunity, but it goes against everything they say they believe.
And while I'm not judging them because I get it, you got to get a job.
It's like, that's the whole point.
If you have enough money and enough power, well, enough money equals power, but enough money, people will literally let you get away with murder.
And that's absolutely true.
And in media, it's the same way.
It's like these media companies are so sick and so diabolical.
They literally have hit jobs on people.
And if you speak against them, you think it's like, oh, this company, you know, fired Tucker.
No, a man fired Tucker.
One guy at the studio wanted him gone and he went out.
It's like even at these companies, oh, the BBC.
No, there's like 10 people on a board that can make any decision.
And really, there's a few that really get to drop the hammer.
There's a select few people in this world that really ultimately make all the decisions.
Everything isn't a conspiracy, but the fact that there's this group of people in every country that kind of control things and cooperate is not a conspiracy.
They admit it all the time.
They have these calls and functions and boards who they want out, what they want going, what narratives they want.
And that's why you see the same problems in every country and the lack of solutions in every country because it's the same people controlling the media, controlling the banks, controlling these things, and they're not working for our benefit.
anna mcgovern
Yeah, I agree.
And it's when you see even a tweet, for example, I think it's especially, you know, one just scrolling online and you see something posted by an outlet, you know, a big statement.
And then you have to remember one person wrote that.
That wasn't the institution, but every single person involved with, let's say, let's use the BBC, for example.
Every single person involved with the BBC did not write that particular message.
That might be one or a couple of people that put behind, you know, put that message forward.
And I think it's very, you know, it's very easy to forget that actually the decisions to put out narratives, certain pieces of content are actually made by very few people when it really comes down to it.
But they can actually shape the narrative conversations that we have throughout the day throughout what's reported on the media, what does get reported and what doesn't get reported.
And there's a few people that ultimately decide that.
elijah schaffer
What do you think, or what do you think is the main issue?
Like, do you think that these people are acting independently and they just happen to all be, you know, progressive and brought into this mold?
Or like, you know, people obviously would say, oh, it's the Jews controlling the media, or they'll say it's tech oligarchs.
Or they'll go on and they'll say, like, oh, it's the blind virus.
Right.
And people have all these like, these accusations of who's doing this, what's behind this.
And the problem with this is, is that, is that when you look at this, though, like, let's not go with these like grand people.
Like when people are pulling the trigger, right?
When people are genuinely like deciding what goes on today, is somebody controlling that person?
Is somebody, is that just, they're just progressive and they got put in that position?
Because like, are they being blackmailed?
Like, why would they choose to be so evil?
And I could wrap my head around that because I've worked with a lot of people who were evil and they looked good, but they're very evil, very evil people.
And they will try to, they will try to ruin your life if they have a chance.
And they don't care what, what, what it costs you because they're just demented sick shits.
What's behind?
Does this just demented sick people?
This, this industry, or is there something else in it?
anna mcgovern
I think that even if you think about it, changing a few words or like how you present a story can change so many people's perceptions of how you see something.
So I think there might be some people that have no agenda, they're not political at all, and they just sort of put things out there mindlessly.
But then I think if you've got a certain affiliation, I mean, to be fair, can people really unbiased, you know, actually do unbiased reporting?
No, everyone's got different values, beliefs.
But it's just very interesting to me that, again, change a few words, change how you report a particular story forward to the public can actually shape what they think of a certain you just depend that one person puts that forward.
I just think is again, it's just incredible to me how much power a very select can have over all of our conversations and big decisions that we take in society as well.
elijah schaffer
It's really bizarre that people like you and I, you know, we won't, we won't get as far as we would like in professionally in media because they won't allow us to.
Okay.
There will always be a ceiling.
You will always be hitting a ceiling.
unidentified
Of course.
elijah schaffer
Right.
Whether or not it's because you won't, you won't compromise and you won't pressure into doing a sex act, whether it's because you won't compromise and let them blackmail you.
If it's because you won't sell your free speech for money, it doesn't really matter.
There will just be a wall to hit because you won't compromise to be able to get there.
But I think God does bless people too.
And I think that the truth does win and that there's still light overpowers darkness.
And I do think that we will win.
I do believe that we do succeed because no matter how hard they try, their narrative is based off of lies and they're pushing it on us like propaganda.
Our narrative is just based off of truth.
It's like you don't have to be racist to not want Afghans who don't speak English in your English town.
It's called England.
They speak English.
That's where it's from.
And you shouldn't be going there and living there if you don't want to speak English.
And you shouldn't even be living there if you're not English.
That's why there's a lot of wars, Irish, English, Scottish, etc.
There's a lot going on because even though they all look the same to somebody who's not white, they're very different, distinct people and they have different cultures and slightly different dialects.
So it is interesting.
But I do believe that we are on the side of truth and reality.
And so people are attracted to authenticity.
That's why I think this show never dies, despite how many people have tried to kill it, institutions, the government, et cetera, is because I'm just speaking what I'm feeling and what I'm seeing.
And what I'm feeling isn't just emotional bullshit.
It's based off of a real understanding of what's going on in the world and trying to be as accurate as possible.
And people know that.
And so we continue to fight the good fight.
But you're new to this.
You're young.
You're starting out.
I mean, why did you do this to yourself?
Why would you try to work in media as a young girl, young lady, I should say?
Well, what the hell would drive you into being in this nasty industry?
I'm being serious.
anna mcgovern
It's crazy.
I mean, for me, I fell into it because it was during the lockdowns where I first started getting into politics and starting to, because, you know, a lot of the free time, you know, schools had shut down.
All of our institutions were all on hold.
So I think for me, you know, spent a lot more time actually, you know, trying to develop understanding around this.
And I think for me, I think, you know, putting the truth forward is incredibly important, especially in a culture where everyone is lying to you, institutions are lying to you, the government's lying to you, key people in power, everyone is lying.
And I think for me personally, I value the truth and I want to keep putting that truth forward because you've not got many people who are actually speaking out against the sort of narratives that are just fed to people.
And for me, I just find that incredibly important.
Luckily, I've been in a position where I've, you know, where workplaces I've been with before, or the people around me have been incredibly supportive of that.
Though I do know people as well that they want to speak up, they want to stand against what is going on with the government or certain narratives that are being fed.
They're just fundamentally evil.
So I'll give one example.
So there is a lady called, you know, Posey Parker, Kelly J. Keene, who hosts that's both both our identities, just so I'm clear.
And she holds Let Women Speak events every month in London, which is a platform to bring women together to speak up about how gender ideology affects their lives and how as a woman they might have felt unsafe.
And just to give them a platform to speak freely.
And it's anyone can speak.
And it's all live streamed to raise awareness of these stories as well.
And it's incredibly important.
And then the kind of idea is that men speak last if they want to speak.
And women have had to turn up in face masks and cover themselves up because, you know, spoken to them.
And they've said like if work found out that they were here, they would actually lose their jobs and their entire livelihoods just for taking a stand for their rights and safety.
So there are many people who want to speak up against this and they can't for the sake of their jobs, their lives, a roof over their head.
And I think for people who are in a position where they can speak up, you should, because that will change the narrative that's being fed and could potentially change the way the world is going.
I think it's incredibly important that we speak up.
elijah schaffer
And I appreciate you doing that because it's interesting with this.
But I do want to give you a word of warning, you know, with the idea of the feminism is like, you know, it's, it's obviously you're working and you're out and about because we live in a society where it's like we don't just, you know, have young girls and they court a man and they get married, right?
People are expected to work and life is so expensive.
While I always promote one-income families, that reality isn't possible for most people.
And a lot of the people that I know, like Josh LaCash, my friend, are different people who've made it work, have had to move to other countries.
And I don't not recommend that.
Like, you might want to move to Rica or, you know, even here, you might move to Port Macquarie or somewhere that's just a little bit cheaper, you know, than living in Sydney.
And the UK, I'm sure there's some more affordable countryside of different things too than living right in London, right?
So there's ways to get around it.
But it's like, don't let the feminist lies ever destroy you because I think that feminists lose what makes them valuable.
Like, do you never want to lose the innocence, the sweetness, the kindness, the nurturing?
And yeah, that might, you might still have to work and you might do have a good career and stuff.
But a lot of this try to become men, you know?
And it's like, and they're like, you know, I'm a girl boss.
I'm a bad bitch.
It's like, just drop that shit.
Just, it's like, it's just as unbecoming as a guy who's like, oh, well, I'm just soft.
And, you know, like, it's like, what the fuck is wrong with you, dude?
Just be a dude.
Be a dude.
Okay.
Just be a man and stand up for it.
I think if females would, I think feminists would have gotten a lot more of what they wanted if they had, because it's kind of gone backwards.
Like they might, and now everyone hates feminists because they're like, they're feminists are into trans shit now.
They've gone extreme.
I know there's still like the TERFs or whatever, but feminism is even like accepting men as women and stuff.
And like, it's just gone too, too far to the point where no one even knows what the hell it means anymore.
And I think women need to look at their lives and look at themselves and really evaluate like maybe we've gone way too fucking far with this shit.
And then the women that do notice it, they, they, it's a little too late.
Go and they have these conferences and these speeches and they get like protested by Antifa and you get beat up.
unidentified
I don't know.
elijah schaffer
I've watched it.
They get the shit beat out of them.
These are traditional first wave 1960s-esque feminists are considered conservative to the extreme feminists of today.
unidentified
It's insane.
anna mcgovern
It reminds me of that video that went viral several weeks back of this young blonde girl who was talking about basically how she was really struggling in her career job that she's doing and you know saying that she had to get up really early and go to this work where she did her work doesn't really mean anything.
She has to travel late at night and how she was struggling so much with dealing with that and balancing her mental health with actually doing the job as well and not feeling valued.
And I think for a lot of women, you don't, I think there's also, you've got to sympathize as well.
You don't necessarily have a choice in the current culture that we have because, you know, bills are incredibly expensive.
There's a cost of living crisis across, you know, I think honestly across the world.
I know from the UK, you know, people are genuinely really struggling to afford their rent or their bills.
And you're almost, you know, it's, it's nice to idealize having one income family and the husband works and provides for his family.
And that's something we should strive for.
It'd be really nice.
But I think in the current economy, it's just made completely impossible.
And it's kind of forcing women to go to work, to be a boss girl, and to make money just so she can afford her rents and bills.
And it's, you know, it's sad.
And I think a lot of people end up having to do jobs that they don't actually like doing because they just have to be able to afford the bills and live and have a roof over their head.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
I don't think a lot of girls want to be expected to be men, but they're required to act like them.
And that is so unfortunate.
It really is.
But also, I think people got confused too by short sleeve and you're in a dress.
It's summer for a few years.
They're like, isn't she cold?
And you're like, no, we have the air conditioning blasting in here too to like keep it as cold as possible.
anna mcgovern
It's so confusing because it's like the winter right now and everyone's like in thunderstorms and rain.
I'm like, it's summer here.
elijah schaffer
I love it.
It's hot here too.
Like, oh man, like, oh, so I think it gave even hotter as well.
So listen to what happened.
So an interesting story that is nothing to do with anything because we're at that point in the show where it's just interesting stories now.
So the other, have you been to a Huntsman spider in a house yet here?
anna mcgovern
I've seen videos.
I hope I never have to see one.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
So this is so good.
So let me, for people that are new to the show or don't know what a huntsman is, it's not a joke.
It's not a joke.
Okay.
So we talked about last show how, let's see.
So these, yeah, these are about, yeah, there you go.
Let's go ahead and spring that up.
They're about, you know, this is about, these are huntsmen.
unidentified
Okay.
Oh, gosh.
elijah schaffer
So like, do you get this big, right?
They get, they get a lot bigger.
Like, they do.
Okay.
But they get, they get so big.
It's, this is like a baby one, right?
A baby.
So I don't know why he's letting it crawl on his face.
unidentified
That is not.
anna mcgovern
That is terrifying.
elijah schaffer
I hope that's fake.
Okay.
But so a huntsman about this bit.
We talked on the last show right here.
This one, I don't know.
I guess it's not showing, but this one here was by my wife in the bathroom and she almost had a heart attack because we had a giant huntsman.
Now, what I didn't know, and I found this out the other day, that huntsmen, I know they're social spiders, but I didn't know that they're like humans.
They live in groups of two minimum.
unidentified
Oh.
elijah schaffer
So if you see a giant huntsman in your house and you kill it, you will see more.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
unidentified
Oh, I love that.
elijah schaffer
Well, remind me to shoot myself.
anna mcgovern
That is the spider's house.
elijah schaffer
So This spider was about this size.
Now, I'm chilling.
I'm sitting on the couch, and my wife's like, This is a couple hours later.
She's like, Oh my gosh, look, and I look over, and be unbeknownst to uh me, there's a huntsman, right?
And they look like, yeah, here's here's about the size, right?
They're like about that big, right?
Just standing in my living room, and and I'm like, and I'll be honest, like, it's like, how do I, how do I kill this, right?
Because it's like, what do I do?
Do I catch it and do I put it outside?
And I'm not familiar with huntsmen in person.
I see them, but they're fast.
unidentified
These fast shit, they are fast as fuck.
elijah schaffer
I'm not gonna lie, they've gotta be going like 10k or like 15k.
Like, there's like they go across.
So I'm freaking out in my head, but I can't look like a bitch to my wife.
I'm like, all right, like, because you know, you, you step like, what, how do I step on this?
anna mcgovern
You have to just let it out.
elijah schaffer
So, I had to take a tray, oh my god, like a fucking TV tray and like smash it down and like jump on it and like to get this thing to die because they don't die, they don't squish because they can squish through your doors.
So, that being said, I decide to look up.
I'm like, okay, I don't know how these got in the house, I don't know where they came from, but now we've had two giant spiders in my house the same day.
I need to make sure, like, where'd they come from?
I go and look up like the top 10 largest and like deadliest spiders, and I keep reading the story where it's like the top deadliest spider is just like the Sydney funnel web spider in the world, and like, luckily, it's only in this region where I live, and it's also only in this type of climate and this exact like by a body of water next to a house.
And I live in front of a lake.
I was like, ah, fuck.
And it's like the redback spider, also one of the deadliest spiders.
Don't worry, it's only in this part of Australia.
So there's no chance you probably live there in the whole world.
Couldn't mean it's only in this and it's like right where I live.
And it just goes through every spider.
And it's like, all the ugliest, sickest shit spiders are only live right in this strip of land.
And it's like my address.
And so I have seen so many disgusting spiders, but it's summer now.
Have you been here in the summer?
anna mcgovern
Well, this is my first time in Australia.
elijah schaffer
So no.
Okay, ready for this sickest fucking shit.
They're so they get so big so quickly and they're everywhere.
And I just the banana spiders, the yellow orb spides, seen those ones.
anna mcgovern
I didn't even look like.
elijah schaffer
Oh, these ones are like literally everywhere.
Watch.
Let me let me do this real fast.
These ones are like literally everywhere.
The banana spiders, we had a lot.
We had a lot in my by my house.
And these ones, they like to make particularly across human paths and roads.
Oh my gosh.
So for size comparison, like you see them like on a branch.
Yeah, look, they have them like covering a path here.
Let me go to this.
So you have this.
You look at it, you're like, oh, how big is that?
But if you look at the hand, that's like about how big they are, like the hand, right?
Right there.
Like, see that guy?
You see him?
They're like about the size.
They're the size of your palm.
And these motherfuckers, they like are also social.
So like three of them link together on a web and then you run into them and they, the web wraps around you, and you have spiders the size of your hands on your body.
And every person was like, oh, nice.
It's just a fucking yellow orb.
And you're like, or something.
And you're like, fucking what?
unidentified
Do you know what I mean?
elijah schaffer
No one here seems to be scared of spiders or snakes.
anna mcgovern
I mean, to be fair.
Since I've been here, I've not anything.
elijah schaffer
But you're not.
Are you in Sydney?
anna mcgovern
I am.
Well, for I'm moving to Melbourne.
So maybe that'll change.
And I'll see you.
elijah schaffer
Melbourne is a lot of spiders.
anna mcgovern
Oh, I can't wait for that.
elijah schaffer
Maybe city's too urbanized.
unidentified
Maybe.
anna mcgovern
Because everyone was saying, like, I could be wrong, but what I was told was that all the most dangerous spiders were in Sydney.
The most dangerous deadly ones.
unidentified
It goes.
elijah schaffer
It goes because because we're, because where we're at, it goes from like about a few hours south of Sydney up to like Cairns or whatever is where all the spiders are.
So it's just this strip, but Sydney does.
But i'm saying it could be urbanized or they could be like spraying for pests and so you might not like see as many, I think the scarier ones when they're small, but like they're the deadliest spider in the world or something.
anna mcgovern
And though I I remember reading the story where someone was like bitten in their sleep by Australia's most deadliest spider.
Then he woke up obviously, and then the spider was just in his bed.
He needed to be rushed to hospital and everything.
And i'm scared like oh, it's gonna happen to me, i'm gonna wake up one day, this deadliest spider just in the bed with me, you might, you might, you might.
elijah schaffer
Though oh, I can't wait and I don't.
I don't want to be rude, but it's like I have also had to become less because I have arachnophobia and I because I have some like scary stories.
As a kid I used to live in the hills and we had trapdoor spiders and tarantulas and stuff, and there's just instances like on christmas, we don't have to go grab a present and there end up being a tarantula there.
I also had a spider I don't know what it was to this day.
That was on my face and it when I was a kid and I slapped it and it didn't die and it was in my hand and it was not dead and it just detached and I don't.
I still don't know what it was.
But the Us yeah, at least because we have these ones here.
Let me bring up one more spider that's pretty common by my house here.
Um, like this one.
Now there's a version of this in the Us as well.
Uh, let's see, it's called, Let's See, Red Back Australia right, so I don't know where's where's okay, so they have a version in the Us that's like this and it's actually.
It actually can be deadly.
I think as an adult, you could be probably fine.
You've seen these, the black widows.
anna mcgovern
I've seen photos before.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so these are like small and these are like common right, everyone's got these around.
And also the brown loose spider, but we have I don't know what it's called.
I think it's called like, the mouse eating spider or bird spider, something like that, but there's one here.
That's like about like the size of your hand as well, but I don't know why all the spiders here are the size of your hand.
That's what i'm trying to figure out is, like why on this island are the spiders size they are?
anna mcgovern
It's like everything's double the size here as well, I find as well.
unidentified
And like, good for the guys, move to Australia if you lack confidence.
elijah schaffer
Everything's double the size.
anna mcgovern
And before I even moved, I remember all my friends were saying like, oh my god, you're gonna walk down the street, they're gonna be everywhere, they're gonna be all like.
A lot of people I know are genuinely the only reason that you know would not come to Australia.
They're scared of spiders.
You know they're all over the street and like you'll walk and there'll just be hundreds of them just like crawling about, which should be fair stopping, true in my case.
Um, I mean they when you see them, it's terrifying, i'm sure.
elijah schaffer
Well, it depends where you go like, if you go more rural, then yes, they're everywhere.
Dude, like my, my little sister unironically, is married to an Australian and uh, i'll just leave it at that.
But uh, she is always sending me videos of like huntsmen and stuff like on her door and in her car.
There's one.
In her car.
There was once when there was an egg sack that blew up in her car and they gave, and then no one seemed to care.
They're fighting new spiders, like every day and like Crawling on your feet, on your legs, and nobody seemed to care except for her.
And I go, these countries, man, people don't like there's there's just snakes that live by my house, and I've just got accustomed to waiting for them to be scared of me.
I don't know if they're poisonous, I don't even know what they are.
There's just snakes that just live like I'll just come on to be a snake on the stairs and throw a rock at it and be like, get the fuck off.
And so there's a way, and you're like, you have to get used to it.
However, I will say the trade-off, there was no crime here, but now you get Sudanese gangs, Lebanese, drug traffickers, and spiders.
So it's like, I don't really know if it's a good trade-off.
It's better than living in London, though, because London, by the way, can I ask you this?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
How did the Queen not commit suicide seeing London turn into what it did under her watch?
anna mcgovern
I honestly, it's gone so bad.
And I think to be fair as well, a lot of people feel forced to move to London because a lot of the opportunities for work are in London.
So you're paying like extortionate amounts of money per month for rent.
And you might get like a tiny box room here with multiple people as well.
And it's like the most dingiest accommodation that you can find.
And they're hemorrhaging over half of their salary just to be able to afford to live in London.
And then they bet, I think, you know, I know a lot of people who've now had to move to London for jobs because it's not really the same kind of opportunities elsewhere.
I don't think it's really true, but I think a lot of the opportunities are in London, but you could probably try and scope out, you know, not try and just, I think a lot of people just sort of feel like they have to be forced into that London bubble, hemorrhaging all their money on rent and having no space.
And like I've heard some horror stories as well, just from people who've moved there.
And for me, I actually felt less anxious when I moved out because I just felt with London as well, there's like this culture of like so much anxiety.
People just, if you've ever been to London, everyone's always on high speed charging around London, charging around on the tubes.
No one talks to each other.
No one looks at each other.
And it's just a very stressful and expensive city to live in.
But there's good parts of London as well, but to actually, I think, with your visiting and then you're leaving, I guess, one thing, but if you're actually there day to day, it's very overwhelming place to be.
elijah schaffer
Well, you have to live there, though, because I know like I'm in an incubator for my job.
But like, if I want to grow my job, I need to be back in America.
I need to be traveling to LA, to New York, to Florida, Miami a lot.
Like there just are places with opportunity.
And that's a small island, though.
There's not like that many options.
I mean, there's Birmingham, right?
But Birmingham's like Birmingham, right?
anna mcgovern
Well, but what for job options?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I don't know.
anna mcgovern
I would say it's probably more.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
I think it'd probably be more Manchester if you're thinking more than everything.
Birmingham is not nice.
That's not a trade-off, though, either.
elijah schaffer
Wasn't it?
Didn't it used to be a decent place before all the immigrants got in there?
anna mcgovern
I mean, to be honest, I think the same could be said for pretty every major city.
It used to be decent.
It fell apart.
Especially London.
But yeah, you do not want to move to Birmingham either or Manchester.
They're not nice places to be in.
You know, from what I've seen personally.
You know, there's some really nice parts of the UK that, you know, more rural countryside.
I love, I love Canterbury.
That's a place in the southeast of the UK.
That's one of, you know, that's one of really nice places.
And, you know, there's really nice rural places, but then just the big cities have completely fallen apart and gone to disrepair as well.
You know, just not being looked after anymore.
The high streets, like a lot of shops have now like shut down.
A lot of stuff's now online.
You've got like, you know, little small independent shops being replaced by big chains all coming in.
It's just not the same.
And it's just, you know, completely fallen apart.
elijah schaffer
So sad.
I've always wanted to visit London.
It was always a real, I almost moved to York when I was 19.
anna mcgovern
New York, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I almost moved there.
I got accepted to a college there and I almost transferred.
And then I'm not going to get into it, but something happened with my family.
So I ended up having to take care of a family member.
But I did want to live there for a while.
And now I just couldn't see myself to go to England for any other.
I mean, I'd love to go to Edinburgh.
Like, you know, like, I mean, that's not England, but I mean, I'd like to go to Edinburgh.
Like, and I think it would be nice to still visit like, you know, the cliffs in Scotland or something, you know, or like, you know, something.
But I overall, the grandeur and allurement of these European cities is sort of waning that the magical, you know, nature because it's just these freaking immigrants.
Like, and you know what?
I'm just trying to, the reason why I'm so harsh and blunt in my speech is I want to normalize it.
I want people to know it's okay to be about this kind of stuff.
And you shouldn't be anything less than that.
They don't need to be coddled.
They need to be deported.
We need mass deportations and mass arrests.
These are criminals.
And also these are, it's criminal to not assimilate.
That should be against the law.
To sit there and not assimilate, to come to a country and beg to come and then not assimilate.
That should be against the law.
Like, how is that not?
How's that?
It's like, dude, you have like two years, learn the language and like, and like, you cannot be cooking cats in the street on an open pit.
I saw that in London and in France.
They're cooking cats.
anna mcgovern
I like as well, when you come in, you have a roof over your head, three meals a day and everything.
And there's a lot of people who are genuinely struggling, you know, UK people, and they're not being supported because we're having to support so many people coming in illegally.
The state is supporting that.
And, you know, we have a large veteran community that is now homeless.
And I, you know, I actually, when I was younger, so 17, I used to volunteer as like a soup kitchen, like in my local community.
And you speak to a lot of the homeless people or local people.
And you ask them like, you know, why have you not tried, you know, have you tried to speak to someone for help?
And they said they only trust the charity.
So, you know, I was working for like, you know, volunteering with this like small local charity that just was there to give them food and some advice.
But they never trusted the council or the government to actually help them because they didn't think they had their best interests anymore.
And I just think it's incredibly sad that they only felt like they could speak to like, you know, a small local charity that would be able to support them.
I think, you know, it's something, you know, it's, it's almost like that, you know, we're in a massive migrant crisis and we're prioritizing bringing a lot of elderly people in rather than helping our own people who are genuinely struggling.
elijah schaffer
And it's very sad to witness that on a daily basis that we are literally in a it's so backwards, but I do know that the Germans are really revolting against this.
So is Argentina.
So is the French not really, but the English need to as well.
You know, like Carl Benjamin and the Lotus Eater podcast, they're doing a quite good job, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
So like, what do you think about them?
Are they effectively combating the narrative?
Or are they censored and like maligned as well as like white nationalists or something like, I imagine they get shit in the mainstream, right?
anna mcgovern
100%.
I know from speaking to close friends view of them on the podcast and I know that they're nervous, you know, the online safety bill.
I think there's a lot of, you know, podcasts like the Lotus Eaters are going to be nervous.
Like, how will the online safety bill affect what they can actually speak about on the internet?
That's something that I know a lot of people that are very.
elijah schaffer
What is the online safety bill?
anna mcgovern
So it's based, it's essentially a bill that is there to, it's, you know, more control over our language and what we can talk about online, essentially what it is.
And I think for the Lotus Eaters podcast like that, what I like about them is long form discussions on issues that aren't necessarily being like, you know, you've got other outlets in the mainstream.
They have like maybe a couple of minutes to talk about something, bring on some random person, sort of bat off from where they have like very in-depth, like and they have an hour and a half podcasts every weekday.
And then they have very in-depth premium podcasts and where they talk about, you know, issues affecting society.
And I think they're incredibly insightful.
And I know that they're incredibly hard behind the scenes to, you know, help inform people about what, you know, what's really happening and the fact that a lot of these institutions are actively lying to you.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, they're good.
Who's who's in?
I know, Carl, who else is involved in that?
anna mcgovern
You've got, um, you've got Harry, Connor, Josh, Stellios, trying to Jonathan Wong.
Um, he's an executive producer.
Um, you've got a couple of others as well.
elijah schaffer
Anyone named Muhammad?
anna mcgovern
Uh, I don't know, actually, because I think that what they do, and which I think worked really well, they have their in-house um hosts who do the regular shows, but then they bring in um people to you know contribute to the show as well.
They, you know, they might have expertise, they have contributed regular contributors as well, and then they bring in you know, one-off experts on a particular topic.
So, I think they do a really good job of striking that balance as well, you know, bringing a lot of informed discussion and debate into the public eye.
You know, it was actually really interesting as well recently.
Um, on Talk TV, I think there's a presenter called Ian Collins.
Um, a guest called in about one of their reports that they did about immigration, and they read out the statistics that the Lotuses have reported on.
I believe that it was Harry who was behind, you know, putting that research together, and it really works out really hard to do that.
And I think Ian Collins sort of replied something very strange, like, you know, oh, you know, can you?
I can't remember what he said, but essentially, the crux of it was that, you know, would you trust an alt-right podcast?
Um, you know, that that's conspiratorial, whatever that means, what does that even mean?
Um, I can't remember what was said verbatim, but it's just the fact that again, people make assumptions of what you believe in, and you know, they work incredibly hard, get a lot of research behind what they do, and then in return, just because they hold certain values or people have a certain perception of them, they're like they write them off instantly, like you're the alt-right, you're conspiratorial.
And it's like they work incredibly hard to actually speak to something that matters.
And rather than, and again, I think you see this a lot of people rather than just shut down instantly, maybe hear what people have to say.
And I think that goes as well for both left and right as well.
Not necessarily the left, but when I say that, I mean, um, free speech.
Um, the idea of free speech is that we should just be able to have unfiltered conversations from the left, from the right, so that we help inform each other and change perceptions.
Because I think, especially from the left, you see, it's deliberately shut down, like, oh, that's offensive, or oh, I don't want to speak to you because you're just right when you're evil.
And then, actually, if you don't have these discussions and they're not put out there, you're never going to change people's minds.
elijah schaffer
It's true, you're never going to change people's minds.
My guest tonight was Anna McGovern.
You can check her out.
Links in the description.
Follow her on Twitter, also known as X. You can go to her website as well.
Is there anywhere else you'd like to plug that people can find you, can follow you, can keep up with your work?
anna mcgovern
Twitter and my website are definitely, you know, my main forms of work.
And the other social media links are all on there as well.
You can find me on all of them.
elijah schaffer
So amazing.
Appreciate it.
Well, Anna, thank you so much for coming on.
We'll be happy to have you back in the future.
Hopefully there'll be no sound issues and we can get some more stuff done as well after the Christmas break since you're here for a while, right?
anna mcgovern
I am here for a while.
elijah schaffer
Okay, that's very good to know.
And it's always good to develop new friendships.
Maybe, and then next time I can bring you up here if you don't get in trouble for it.
Then maybe I'll just invite a couple other people on too at the same time because there's nothing better than doing like a full like four or five hour like with like four people and just going hard on issues.
anna mcgovern
That would be incredible.
elijah schaffer
It's always really fun, especially because it also gives you a lot of distance to your own opinions.
No one can be like, well, you were in a room with them.
It's like, yeah, five people.
And we all disagreed, you know, on an issue.
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Exactly.
elijah schaffer
But I feel like I know enough people here to get enough people.
I just got to work on the studio a little more, make it more capable.
Anyway, to the rest, thank you to my guests for joining.
Absolutely wonderful.
Absolutely amazing and brilliant.
It's been so good.
To all of you guys in the chat, thank you guys for keeping up with us here on Rumble and to the local chat here in the what is this called in locals literally.
I just want to say shout out to you guys.
I'll put some of you on screen here for a second.
Shout out here to, I guess we'll do this instead.
Yeah, wait.
Let me see if I can just make this smaller.
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Hold up.
elijah schaffer
So we can see this a little better.
unidentified
Yes.
elijah schaffer
No idea.
Okay.
Never mind.
But anyway, shout out to you guys, Iconic Turner, Butthead, Shane, Wally, Jay, and all of you guys complaining in the chat about random shit tonight, sticking it through.
I really do appreciate you guys being on here.
It's absolutely great.
And I was reading your chat and I do keep up with your content, get the feedback.
And just so you know, that's why it's 10 times more awkward in the studio because I'm all over the place.
But it's because I'm in Australia.
So I currently don't have an in-studio producer that is running everything for me.
And that's okay because the key thing is the topics and the truth.
And then we get back in the U.S., we'll hire some illegals and we'll traffic some slaves from Eritoria or something and make the show work.
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