Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer - The SCAM of DIVERSITY, Equity, Inclusion (DIE) | Guest: Jason Köhne

March 16, 2023 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer

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The SCAM of DIVERSITY, Equity, Inclusion (DIE) | Guest: Jason Köhne | Ep 322

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	Well, it seems like everybody gets advocated for these days.
	Black people, gay people, queer people.
	But there's one group of people that continually gets left out, and that's the enemy of freedom.
	The people that we need to blame for all of our problems, you know, those pesky dudes who built society and whatnot.
	I'm talking about white people.
	And as you saw in the opening video with Dylan Mulvaney and Drew Barrymore, it brings up the question from Truth Social.
	I wrote, in 2023, the only influential voice a white man can have on TV is when he dresses like a woman.
	Females will say men are trash.
	We don't need them.
	Then bow before them on live television the moment they put on a dress and lipstick.
	And if you don't think that's true, if you don't think that's a reality, I want to bring you the attention that Dylan Mulvaney was on Drew Barrymore's show, and this happened after she continually said we need to stop bowing down to men.
	She literally got on her knees.
	And we ought to talk a lot about this, the position of the white man and its dwindling relevancy.
	I'd like to welcome to slightly offensive for the first time, my guest, Jason Kuna.
	He is a man of many hats and many talents.
	He is a host of a YouTube channel.
	You can click the link in the description.
	And he advocates for white well-being.
	I know it's scary.
	We're not supposed to be talking about that on here.
	I know it's illegal on YouTube.
	But welcome to the show, man.
	How are you doing?
	Oh, I'm fantastic.
	It's wonderful to be here, brother.
	Looking forward to our conversation.
	Yeah, so let's just bring up something really important, right?
	White men.
	Nothing I would say encapsulates the position of white men than the fact that every white man is told to shut up, to sit down.
	And in this case, they sat down, they didn't shut up, and they've got feminists on their knees.
	I just want to ask you, you know, you say you advocate for white well-being.
	What does it mean to advocate for white well-being?
	Well, I think right here, there's a great example, an opportunity, I should say, to explain exactly what's happening or what we should take away from something like this.
	What we're seeing, and so often, I don't know if you know, I worked on the Hill and in the Nerve Center for the conservative movement during Bush Jr.'s first term.
	And endlessly, and since then and before then and since then, I have to endure people talking about just the insanity of these things and where is it coming from and why is it like this and what crazy thing are these folks going to do next.
	And it comes right down to the fact that this, what you're seeing right there, is what we refer to as white erasure.
	It's the white erasure of our norms, the white erasure of our mores, the white erasure of our codes, our expectations for behavior, our expectations for what a man is supposed to be and what a woman is supposed to be.
	And this ultimately is a way that people who are anti-white victimize us on an individual level and on a group level.
	So ultimately, when we see things like this, the most powerful thing we can do is come away from it, appreciating that this is a white erasure, something else to victimize us because those norms, those codes, et cetera, are what we need, what we create for our well-being.
	Incidentally, Elijah, it is the same expectations of behavior, codes, laws, mores, norms that people of all immutable characteristics enjoy in our civilization.
	And as all of that is destroyed, everyone ends up a victim as a consequence.
	Right.
	And as we jump into that, guys, don't forget that this is slightly offensive.
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	My name is Elijah Schaefer.
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	So, Jason, I got to bring this up.
	You talk about white erasure.
	You talk about not being represented, white well-being.
	And I got to admit, you know, this is a really unpopular topic, not just in the left-wing circles, not just in woke circles, and not on network television.
	But I would say even on the right wing, even on the Republican Party, which is the racist party, which is the party of white men, everybody is being represented except for that group.
	And I want to bring up this picture again and remind you, not only are people not defending white men, but the entire argument seems to all be about trans women or trans men.
	And nobody's talking about the corner group.
	And I want to begin by talking about this story with you and the utter state of where we are.
	So Dylan Mulvaney, if you're not familiar with him, he was on the Drew Barry Moore Show, a network television show.
	And white men have been pushed down for so long, I believe, that they've literally began to either stop identifying as white, project their white guilt, and or identify as woman.
	And to remind you about what white men have to go through in order to get attention today, I'd like to play a little bit of this clip and show you the utter state of white men in 2023.
	Let's watch this.
	Let me ask you about the negativity.
	How have you dealt with it?
	And what's an approach you take?
	What's your self-talk?
	What do you filter?
	Yes.
	How do you?
	I still read the comments, but there is so much hatred directed at the trans community right now.
	It's everywhere.
	And I think the greatest weapon that I can contribute is trans joy and comedy and talking about hard, you know, subjects and really intricate moments of a transition and try to let everybody in to see that, you know, I'm not a monster.
	not somebody that you know um is trying to to do anything but be myself and be happy Thank you, everybody, for that support.
	How do you stay on your own path?
	Where do you draw boundaries?
	Where do you find the strength to keep being the joy?
	Well, I think having my chosen family and the people that I love to take care of me, but I also think there's something just about making sure that you don't put something out there before you're ready and really just surrounding yourself with good people.
	It's interesting because I look at someone like you and I can't imagine anybody disliking you.
	Oh, please.
	Do you know?
	Do you want to know, ironically, who dislikes me the most sometimes?
	Myself.
	Me too.
	And oh my God.
	Watching this, what does this tell you about the current state of the white male in media and entertainment?
	We are born into a world, and this is really the genuine evil that takes place in this world, is this anti-white ideology that we function under.
	And you're talking about the Republican Party.
	They don't even care for the white male or the white race.
	No, they never have.
	And in fact, they have an intense immune system.
	For the moment you begin to focus on where really we are being victimized, and that is targeting of Western kind, white people, a targeting of what we project onto the world, our culture or civilization, expectations for behavior.
	What would happen to somebody like Dylan if they began saying that they were confused about what kind of body they were in or they were actually a dragon inside of a body or whatever it is, we would have a very different approach to how they viewed themselves and how they viewed the world.
	And we would actually help them.
	That's what would happen in a healthy Western civilization.
	But as a consequence of us coming into the world, we learn from our youngest years before we can even actually even understand language.
	We're already being pelted with imagery about imagery like this.
	We're already being pelted with imagery about how the white race is awful, specifically the white male.
	And as we go through grade school, as we go through preschool, grade school, high school, we are looking through this victimization, through this sickness that's forced on us, and seeking any identity other than a white man, a man of the West.
	We don't want to be anything.
	I mean, over the years, you probably remember white kids, they were like metalheads, or they were skaters, or they were just anything but white.
	Whereas everybody else is, of course, encouraged.
	And I want everybody to be proud of who and what they are.
	I've been saying this for three decades.
	So it's nothing new for me.
	I just want us to also be included.
	This is ultimately the, and the reason why I believe that it's so, it's put so much in our faces is that it is the du jour most offensive thing for what we have created in our past.
	Now, I say, you know, I say our past because they are quickly wiping everything away that we have that we've done.
	And it's every new year that goes by, the Republicans you mentioned are defending the position that the most radical anti-white folks were advancing just a year, two, or three years ago.
	So, this is what you're seeing right now.
	While Republicans might say today that this is so objectionable and we need to end this or whatever that guy said at CPAC, three years from now, they'll be defending this.
	Yeah, you know, it is an interesting thing.
	And I bring this up remarkably as a difficult situation, right?
	I worked in, I would say, like pseudo-mainstream media for the better of four years.
	And I had noticed that, you know, it was possible to pretty much talk about any subject, to get into any subject, except for a discussion about white people.
	It's not only just like a boogeyman, but it's genuinely a fear.
	You know, if I put white in a title, it would get pulled.
	If I had a script advocating for white people, I would be told it was racist.
	If I unironically said that I hated the British, you know, at least used to be a white country, if I said I hated the Italians, if I said I hated the French, nobody seemed to care.
	If I wanted a Christian Catholic boy that was white that talked about Christian traditional, you know, Eurocentric values, I'd get flagged or told they couldn't come on.
	But if I wanted to have a transsexual with a penis that did porn talk to me about Christian values, they'll pay for the ticket to come.
	If I want to go on air and I want to criticize Chinese people, instantly getting a phone call, being asked to take things down.
	And it seemed like this is the topic that gets everybody afraid to talk about.
	Why are people so afraid?
	Because you said you advocate for white well-being.
	The fact that I can say advocate for blank well-being, any other category, you probably would get on the Drew Barrymore show.
	Why is it that this category, white well-being, is automatically a red flag for people that means, you know, racism, hatred?
	Like, why is this such a taboo subject to talk about?
	That's a brilliant question.
	And it's actually as a result of the psychological warfare that we refer to as anti-whitism, this ideology that we have lived under the totality of our lives.
	So we learn through the anti-white narrative, which is ultimately just simply to say that this is the narrative that the media puts out there, the universities, the government, and specifically entertainment media is the most powerful for controlling the human mind, the human animal.
	And they put out this anti-white narrative, which contains an anti-white moral imperative.
	The key word to this moral imperative is racist and racism.
	They put this moral imperative out there, and it is so strong that even getting in the way of the victimization of white children is something that white people are afraid to do.
	Even identifying, and this is why you see this all the time in conservative circles.
	They'll say, oh, it's not about race.
	Even as people are attacking them, calling them white and then expletives, they'll still say it's not about race because of this moral imperative within the anti-white narrative.
	And so as a consequence, you want to talk about something happening to white people.
	You want to talk about just white well-being, white people being happy, white people being healthy.
	What's wrong with that?
	Well, in today's West, and this is the same all the way around through the Western countries, all the way around the world, that is to be immoral, which is also the reason why to harm white people, the inverse, is considered to be moral.
	So, if you want to say, I'm going to bring on a transgender, which totally upturns what white people have done in the past, the institutions, the expectations for family, et cetera, totally upturns and sullies that, well, you're considered to be doing a moral thing.
	I mean, Dylan has like 10 million followers on one of the platforms.
	And that is a direct consequence of this feeling of I'm doing something moral if I'm destroying what the West was before all of these people decided to remake it into the inverse.
	So ultimately, Elijah, you're dealing with a moral imperative that we learn mostly by way of entertainment media.
	And as a consequence, people behave in expected ways within that framework.
	Well, it makes sense to me, but I do bring up a discussion point here: who's behind or who is involving this normalization that advocating for whiteness is bad?
	And I want to preclude this for the nice censors that watch the show from Right Wing Watch and these other groups, which I don't care about, is that I'm confused because if we were to move forward as a society and sort of say advocating on the behalf of race in America is a bad idea, then, okay, I can have an intellectual argument with you on that.
	Let's have that.
	Let's accept the premise.
	Let's stop focusing on race.
	Let's move away from that as a talking point.
	And let's go into all other discussions on disparities of class and of education and of opportunity.
	However, while we're literally saying to advocate for whiteness, to advocate for white people, that is racist, that is inherently divisive, that is inherently destructive to the future of our country.
	We are coincidentally at the same time advocating for every other subclass of humanity, including race, from black to Hispanic to Asian.
	There's even the Stop Asian Hate movement.
	We had the first Asian woman win best actress, and that was emphasized, the first woman of color in 21 years since Hallie Berry.
	So who's really behind the modeling, or how did we get to the point to where we are hyper-promoting the advocating of certain groups while intentionally reminding people that advocating for men, for white people, is in itself a dangerous position?
	That is another great question.
	And I actually commend you.
	No wonder you are doing so well.
	I hope you go sky's the limit on your work here.
	It's a great question because you're going right to the heart of where does an anti-white person come from?
	Well, anti-white people, to summarize best I can, come in all races, including white, of course.
	And ultimately, it's born in jealousy and envy.
	It's a jealousy and envy, even for a white anti-white, of what they see as representative of the West, of Western kind, of white humanity.
	They see beauty, they see wealth, they see health, they see power, etc.
	And then they look at themselves and they find themselves wanting in some way, maybe across all of those metrics, maybe across several of them.
	So it could even be like somebody who is immensely wealthy could still be very jealous and envious of the beauty or of the health.
	Once they are in this position, this envy and this jealousy, they look out into the world, they consider themselves, they name themselves to be victims, victims of fate, victims of God, victims of chance, but they can't avenge themselves and they can't get anything out of being victims of those things.
	But there is this ideology, this belief system, and it tells them that the reason why, ultimately, that you're not as attractive, you don't have as much wealth, you're not as powerful, you don't have, and I think probably the most important thing when it comes to the West and white people is this great history that we can look back upon that gives us this dignity, gives us this authority, gives us, because we as a people have done so much, which doesn't take anything away from anybody else.
	And it doesn't say that other groups of people haven't done much as well.
	But we are in the West nonetheless.
	And that great dignity that's conferred upon us is something that is of immense anti-whites feel immense jealousy and envy over.
	Well, they want to avenge themselves.
	They name themselves victim, and then they gain the right to self-defense.
	That's where you get the real fanaticism.
	It builds upon itself.
	It would be wrong to say with the ideology of anti-whitism that it had like a single source.
	It's very easy, sort of reductionist and sort of simplifies things to have like a creation story.
	Well, there was a time when a group of people came together and then they just made it.
	In reality, things in society don't work that way.
	Human dynamism is far too complex for things to happen that way.
	There is a building up, and there are certainly opportunities for anti-whites that are afforded to them by being anti-white, by exploiting the founding stock of the West, because they're the people who have the wealth of that country.
	They're the people who have inherited all that our ancestors have given down to us.
	And it's a very easy way to divide and to conquer.
	You mentioned this great point here that in the anti-white narrative that we live under, anti-white ideology, that non-white groups are celebrated.
	Well, that's a great thing that people are celebrated, their cultures are celebrated, but white people know.
	We're told that we need to be radical individualists.
	What better way to get people to lower their guard?
	We're told that we have to be apologetic, that we're responsible for all of these evils of the past, and that we have to lower our guard.
	It's been various ideas that we have been given over the years.
	Ultimately, to get us to lower our defenses, allow ourselves to be victimized.
	And what does that result in?
	Well, it results in things like jobs being handed out to people who are just not white, or specifically not white males, promotions not to white males, government contracts, anybody but white males, white people in general.
	They used white women for a very long time, and that really destroyed the family for us.
	But it's a deep question, and it's outside of the purview of this discussion, but I would be happy to have it some other time about exactly where does it come from?
	And is it possible to say, if you were to imagine that it was a country with only white people in it, would there be no anti-whitism?
	And I submit to you that no, there would be anti-whitism until we take steps to realize that we are a single people that have created many countries and it manifested around the world as Western civilization.
	Until then, we will continue wealthy, the powerful, will continue to use guilt.
	It would be more ethnic in those senses, different ethnic groups of the white race, to pressure and exploit and persecute in order to empower those with wealth and status.
	White people, regrettably, because of the radical individualism, we don't care about our brothers and sisters.
	And as a consequence, the wealthy among us don't either.
	They are there simply to amass more wealth, to be as avaricious as possible, and that relative to the other wealthy.
	So it's a complicated problem, but fortunately, there is a kind of a simple solution.
	What is the simple solution?
	We need to specifically say when we are being victimized, when it's something like this, when we see Drew Barrymore and Dylan Mulvaney, we need to specifically identify that we are being victimized as white people.
	And we invite everyone of all immutable characteristics to join with us to combat this victimization for moral grounds, because it's the moral thing to do to combat a victimization on a people that is based on their birth, which they had no control over.
	And also because by ridding the West of white erasing the West, of all of our customs and norms and laws, et cetera, everything gets worse for everybody.
	The beatings on the school buses, guess what?
	That never happened when our environments were far more Western.
	Everything is getting worse.
	Crime is getting worse.
	The ability to identify even what you are, male or female, is getting worse.
	The introduction of ideas that are deleterious to the mental and physical health of everybody as a consequence of this targeting of Western kind.
	And we have people of all races who have joined us to combat anti-whitism across the West because of the pernicious influence and effect it's having.
	If we continue, Elijah, to use all of these like proxy defenses, if we continue to say, oh, this is just about freedom of association.
	Oh, this is just about having a border so we can have a social contract with our government.
	Oh, this is just about, et cetera, et cetera.
	If we continue to do that, and if we continue to do like Governor DeSantis did, whereas he refused to say, this is about white people being victimized and it's destroying everything for everybody, he decided to say, well, it's just CRT.
	It's just, well, anti-white people can just, and they have, just change the name of the anti-white ideology that they're teaching at the school.
	And nevertheless, it's already in all of the entertainment media where it's far more powerful.
	So instead of using proxy positions, which you will never, Republicans, they specialize in this.
	Proxy, everything is a proxy position.
	They won't ever say the reason that we're actually being victimized.
	If we get the courage to just say, hey, at the beginning of the conversation, we see this as anti-white, and then you can have the rest of the conversation.
	You have defanged the opposition because the only thing that they have that's powerful and that works against us is white guilt, is this anti-white moral imperative.
	You think about any subject matter.
	You can think about global warming.
	You can think about the border crisis.
	You could think about the single mother crisis.
	You could think about feminism.
	You take away this white guilt.
	You take away this moral imperative, this anti-white moral imperative that we live under by identifying that they're being anti-white.
	And then they have to rely on the rest of their arguments, which as we can see are garbage.
	We just make fun of them.
	We joke about them because they see there's so much hypocrisy, so much double standards.
	When you reduce it, when you remove their moral imperative by pointing out that it's anti-white, we always win every time.
	So to bring up some of your wording here, right, about repackaging things, I find your positions to be really interesting because I don't think it's just the right wing that repackages anti-whiteness by saying, okay, well, we're going to fight anti-whiteness, but we're going to call it CRT.
	A really interesting development that has come about is something that is, this is from LinkedIn, right?
	This is about something called DEI.
	Now, if people aren't familiar with that, that means diversity, equity, and inclusion.
	And we'll break that down in a few moments.
	But this new development says three years post-the George Floyd murder and the waning of DEI commitments.
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	And we're able to have conversations like this because you guys continue to support us on podcasts, on locals.
	And it's so great that you guys have come behind us so that we can take steps to have conversations we need to.
	But this idea of DEI, right, this is by somebody named Lore Lee.
	You already know what the pronouns in the bio, he, him, his, basically discuss, and I won't get so into the details here, but just as about three years ago after the killing of the late Mr. George Floyd, I like how we're giving him a proper title now.
	The world rose up and said, we've had enough.
	It's time to change.
	Organizations and corporations of all sizes flashed their newly written DEI commitments with ink barely dried in front of the world to show how they have always been committed to this work.
	This includes consulting, training, and development business, rolled out their long-standing training programs addressing DEI topics and their strategies.
	And without having to get so far into this, can you explain to me what diversity, equity, and inclusion means in a practical sense when rolled out in corporations in universities?
	Well, for the longest time, it's another fabulous question, brother.
	Thank you.
	For the longest time, it meant no white males, fewer white males.
	How do we find a way to get rid of the white males?
	And this is how we should talk about it.
	We should always say, and I would say first, that they want to call it DEI.
	It's actually DIE.
	It's die to Western kind.
	It's die to Western civilization.
	Diversity, inclusion, and equity.
	Equity is really the most pernicious of them all.
	Very scary, very scary, because they want to apply it everywhere.
	But we get to this point.
	And over the years, it's just meant white males because we wanted to, anti-whites knowing, and it doesn't take, it doesn't take, and we could talk about maybe another time, it doesn't take like some sort of like master theoreticians or something at the very top, and they're all just like pulling strings.
	When you program an animal, the human being, I believe their soul, many people do, but we're still in an animal body.
	When you program it to behave in a certain way, given a certain context, you can predict what the behavior will be.
	So individual anti-whites are the ones who are making this happen.
	Back in the day, it meant white males.
	They wanted to allow white females in to get some of the goodies.
	They told them, they tempted them.
	Guest a couple of maybe it was last week did a fabulous job about feminism.
	They really destroyed the family there because they told white women, hey, you were, you've been just nothing but oppressed, and this is going to be a much better life for you.
	White women came, they were getting the jobs, they were getting the promotions, but you know, now they don't need white women so much anymore, anti-whites in general, including white female anti-whites.
	They don't need white women so much anymore.
	So, increasingly, when a company says, and folks, this is every quarter of the biggest companies, national and international companies, every quarter, they say, We have a new goal.
	We're going to have this much more diversity.
	We're going to have this much more inclusion.
	You need to immediately translate this sort of Orwellian speak into what they're really saying.
	We're going to have fewer white people this next quarter.
	And then, when they celebrate it, what they've celebrated, when they've achieved these goals, is fewer white people.
	It's at work, it's government contracting, it's everything you can imagine.
	We used to have, I mean, maybe you remember Elijah, where people would, white people would talk about, hey, I'm now training my replacement from India.
	And it was kind of like a joke when it first started.
	It's not a joke anymore.
	India is moving to America.
	India is moving to Canada.
	These are wonderful people, wonderful, smart people.
	They're doing great jobs.
	They work wonderful.
	They have fantastic families and all.
	But hey, we want to live.
	We deserve to live.
	We need our countries that we created, the founding stock of these countries, we need them as bolsters to survive.
	We cannot allow ourselves to be inundated with wonderful people from other lands, but nonetheless inundated with folks that create something very different and that are living amongst us as we are the sort of the demons in that story that they too then become a part of in the West, all to the harm of white people.
	And if you think for a moment that, well, you're one of these white guys and you're just, you can take it, they can't hurt you or whatever, stop being such a coward.
	Stop foregoing your duty because there are white people out there.
	There are white children who can't handle it.
	There are white elderly who can't handle it.
	And there are plenty of white guys out there who are in their prime, got their education, paid their dues.
	And guess what?
	They didn't get the job.
	They didn't get the promotion.
	They didn't get the loan for their business.
	They're now out of business.
	And when they're in business, they're competing against businesses that are getting tax forgiveness, that are getting grants from the federal government.
	You can't compete.
	You simply can't compete in that sort of environment.
	So DIE means the death of you and me.
	And I want to talk a little bit about the application of that.
	And one of the earlier statements you made about how advocating for white well-being is not actually a racist connotation in terms of white supremacy.
	It's a matter of actually looking out for everyone in a civilization, looking out for people who frameworked or built a civilization for a type of cultural normativity that, when destroying its own self, actually crumbles the structure for everyone, of every gender, of every race, all two genders, but of everyone involved in that society.
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	Let's talk about a real application.
	So, about a year ago, Jason, we talked about the fact that as the military was pandering mostly to minorities and to women and was implementing DEI, which you called DAI, there are real world consequences, right?
	We all, I don't know what's respectable about sending a bunch of people you claim to be advocating for to the front lines of Ukraine to get their heads blown off, but they started pandering to these people.
	And the problem was, is we're finding out that every branch of military struggled to make their 2022 recruiting goals.
	It started with just the army, but it said with a record low.
	This is from NBC News of Americans eligible to serve and a few of those willing to do it.
	This is the year we question the sustainability of the all-volunteer force, said an expert.
	Now, we've never had a problem sustaining our volunteer force, but it used a phrase that people are not even eligible.
	They're not even able to qualify a huge portion of the U.S. military.
	How is DEI contributing to this?
	And how is DEI not the answer?
	And on the flip side, why would advocating for white well-being have anything to do practically to helping our country overcome these challenges like not having a standing military, you know, crime, et cetera?
	I mean, this is a real problem.
	How does that work out?
	Splendid, splendid question.
	Anti-whitism, in this case, they're going to give it the name of a DEI.
	So, something I would also advocate for folks to do to improve their ability to make their points against this anti-whitism, to win those conversations, to win over friends and family, is to not give our victimizers the name of their taking and never take the name of their giving.
	So, they, whatever it might be, in this case, it might be the DEI and instead you call it anti-whitism, which is what it actually is.
	They give you a name, though.
	Never take their name because these things are weapons.
	It's psychological warfare that is used on the population.
	And it's a consequence of what works.
	So it doesn't, you don't have to imagine, again, a smoke-filled room or something.
	All you need to do is imagine what ends up being the result of an endeavor to achieve X.
	And that's always going to be what works, right?
	It can't be anything else.
	So what happens in the military is you look at the militaries of the West, specifically the United States, and what a beautiful example of the man of the West.
	We had many things that sought mastery over us throughout the eons.
	And again and again, and then including other tribes of people, countries of nations of people, kingdoms of people, that sought mastery over us.
	And yet, time and again, we mastered those obstacles.
	And the military served a big way and has retained those victories and has retained much of what we infuse in the works of our creation, what we project from within ourselves.
	And as a consequence, it is a target as well of anti-whites and anti-whitism.
	They're not necessarily thinking, like, I want to put a guy on the front line that's wearing a 2-2 so that he can feel good about himself.
	What they want to do is they want to insult, sully, smear everything that we have done.
	And so that is to remake the military as well, to get white males out of it, because it is what we do.
	It is what and who we are.
	One of the many things of what and who we are.
	And there is the other element to this of those who wield the weapons, those who have the bullets, those who drive the tanks and the jets, they're the ones with the real power.
	And if you allow that to remain in the hands of white people, well, according to the anti-white narrative, they're going to just unleash ungodly hell upon non-white people, specifically, I'm sure, non-white babies.
	I mean, it's just whatever they will say to get you emotionally charged in their media.
	And so they go into the military.
	It's been later in the military, the effects of anti-whitism.
	It took longer for them to get into the military and start really tinkering and screwing things up, but they're having a big effect.
	And as a consequence, the United States and other Western countries are not nearly as ready to combat foreign opposition as they have been in the past.
	And that, when they look now at other countries, which are not white positive, they don't care about white people, any of these other countries.
	They're just other competitors on the global stage.
	They see that the United States is beginning to fall behind.
	And they will more than happily boost recruiting to put those proud white guys from across this country, corn-fed, strong, patriotic, put them back on the front lines to be blown to pieces for more empowerment of the anti-white regime, anti-white individuals, business people, and etc.
	The way to the second part of your question that serving white well-being helps everybody is that service to white well-being is to contend with anti-whitism.
	Anti-whitism is the great evil of this age.
	Every age has a great evil that is either oppressing it or threatening, etc., threatening what good there is, whatever level of good there is.
	Anti-whitism is the threat of this age.
	Good people of all backgrounds are going to heed the call to come and combat this.
	Now, they're combating it in various ways, mostly weakly with proxy-type positions.
	And that's where we come in, because what we can do is provide them with nothing more than concepts to use in their argumentation, in the pieces that they report, in the videos that they make, that change the story that we're living through.
	The important thing here is that people who are anti-whites, anti-white regime, they have to talk to us.
	They have to come to propagandize us still.
	There are still too many of us to just say, well, it's all over for you guys, and we're just going to march you off into the ocean or something.
	They still have to propagandize us, and that is a good thing.
	That tells us that we still have a lot of strength left and life and vitality left in our people.
	But we have to get these concepts to them.
	Concept number one: using anti-whitism when you're talking about the victimization of Western kind, the United States, Canada, et cetera, and therefore the victimization of everybody.
	You see, you could take, for example, and this will give a great example, Elijah, to your question.
	You take abortion on demand.
	You look at when this started across the West, and you see that it popped up in most Western countries, not all Western countries, some Western countries held out for quite a long time, Ireland, but in most Western countries, it popped up at the same time.
	Who were they targeting?
	Well, today, people will say, conservatives will say, they will argue vehemently, and they're good people, they're good people, but they'll argue vehemently that this harms black people.
	Look at the percentage of black people that are being harmed.
	And so, therefore, they'll never say it harms white people, your typical like Republican, because of what we were talking about earlier, that this is a moral and anti-white moral imperative.
	They'll argue, though, that it harms black people.
	It does harm black people.
	Black people are collateral damage to white people who were the target.
	They opened up abortion in countries that were 100% white at the same time that they brought it to us, a country that was far whiter than it is today.
	In all of their advertisements, they show, and still to this day in the commercials, you can see the unhappy white woman who had children, and they put her like in slums, and she's miserable.
	And then they show you the white woman who didn't have kids, the white woman who didn't get married.
	She's a slut, and she's out living large, surf in the town.
	And then, when they show you the non-white women, they show them with children, happy families sitting in their kitchens and everything.
	Ultimately, though, what ends up happening, and this is a great way to demonstrate how everybody gets harmed by the targeting of white people and what we have produced, is that black people wanted to avail themselves and they did avail themselves of this service.
	And they did so more and more.
	And that's why we have ended up where you have, what, more black babies are dying in the womb than anywhere else.
	The way to fix that is to bring the West back to America.
	The way to fix the school beatings, the way to fix the rampant crime, you know, like this young black guy who was beaten to death down there in Tennessee by the police, that happened by black police officers.
	That happened because white civilization, Western civilization has been white erased from that city largely.
	And so those norms and expectations for how law enforcement is supposed to engage and how that engagement is measured after the fact and et cetera, all of that is gone so that we can just get rid of everything that whites have created because it's all evil.
	And now look, that young man that was yelling out for his mother, he's dead as collateral damage to the white erasure of that city in every respect.
	Government, police, the media that plays there, entertainment media.
	That is how serving white well-being helps everyone of all immutable characteristics.
	Yeah, and it's interesting you bring that up because, you know, the Secretary of Army, Christine E. Warmarth or Warmuth, they've changed their tone.
	You know, they were recently making videos for the CIA, FBI, et cetera, that were sort of pandering to queer people.
	And now that we don't meet our quotas, all of the ads have gone back to traditionalism saying join the U.S. Army is a tremendous opportunity.
	If you are the type of person that seeks challenges and wants to push yourself to achieve something that you didn't think was possible, we have some opportunities for you.
	Of course, they have a black guy in the back, but they go back to their typical group that had been dying for this country.
	And I wrote something there.
	You need straight white guys to die for you again.
	Where are all your lesbian POCs you've been pandering to the last couple of years?
	Quotas not working out.
	And it got a good response because it's the truth of the matter is that when you have a civilization that was built by individuals, the truth is, is people that came here just for handouts, people that came here for other reasons or didn't, you know, maybe shed their blood or build it over generations may not have the same appreciation to maintain it.
	And that's a really difficult, you know, section of conversation of saying, hey, we're not trying to cause problems.
	We're actually trying to help.
	And I want to point to a video here that just came out recently of when a group of Bantus in South Africa swarmed one of the lone Caucasian MPs.
	So he was in, I'm going to turn off the sound here.
	We'll leave this going for the audio only.
	So they were having a disagreement.
	And basically, South Africa is a perfect example of a society that tried to end racism and desegregate and take down apartheid, which everyone was like, okay, this is vehemently wrong.
	This is bad.
	As a world, we need to change.
	And what we've seen in South Africa is a complete deterioration of a society that we saw similar to most British Commonwealth colonies at a certain point to where, you know, with Rhodesia or you even saw in Jamaica, we could keep the list going on and on and on, is where, you know, white people are bad.
	They built a, they brought, you know, not even third world countries, I would say tribal prehistoric, I don't even like that word, but let's just say tribal pre-modern history societies into at least second world nations, gave them running water, electricity.
	And now, as they, you know, revert back to tribalism, remove the white colonizing devils from power, they can't even keep their lights on.
	And they can't even keep civility inside of a system of court.
	And I just have to wonder, is South Africa a rarity?
	Is this somehow an exception to what happens when you stop advocating for white wellness?
	Or is this really a hallmark example of a society that removes white men from power, kills white farmers, and says, hey, we're going to try to do things with your system, but with our culture?
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	Is this just a rare example that I'm cherry-picking, or do you feel like South Africa really does represent a larger picture?
	You're 100% right.
	I mean, South Africa and every major city across Western civilization virtually now deteriorates.
	But here's the important thing: it deteriorates by what we consider to be civilization.
	I'm a firm believer that there's no sort of cosmic metric for civilization.
	So, therefore, one cannot be considered better than the other.
	What they would create in South Africa or the southern part of that continent if white people had never shown up and created Western civilization there, which is what we do and only we do, as given the evidence of history, that they would have a civilization that would work perfectly for them.
	And whatever that might be, and I would probably not want to live there, but it would work for them.
	They would be happy with it.
	Why our brothers and sisters went down to South Africa as they came to North America and Australia, New Zealand, and we created outside of us what is already inside of us, an instinct.
	What we see in ourselves, we build to reflect back at us.
	And when we are removed from that equation, you see that the thing that you were that you were prizing, the thing that you pointed your feet, maybe you're somebody of a different group and you migrated, you came to one of the Western countries.
	Once you remove us, you get rid of that Western civilization because we are Western civilization.
	It's not a place on, there is no, in the real world, there is no America.
	There is no, there was no South Africa.
	There was, it's the people.
	And if you were to take the people who founded the country and move them to the moon, that's where America would be.
	That's where the United Kingdom would be.
	You cannot get rid of us and also simultaneously get rid of our projections.
	And we've talked about that several times.
	Ultimately, the projections of a people in its aggregate becomes its culture.
	That's why Western civilization is the same everywhere you have white people.
	There's slight different hues on it, and that's because of environment and times and et cetera.
	But nonetheless, we create Western civilization.
	That's our projection in its aggregate.
	You can't have multiculturalism then, because what that is, is essentially a cold war between the instincts of different groups of people.
	And it never ends up well.
	Well, you can see in South Africa, as you're pointing out, Elijah, that when you have white people that are infected with these anti-white ideas, and instead of combating them by saying, I see that this is intended to victimize me because I'm white, I see that you want to get rid of these norms, these laws, et cetera, because we made them.
	When you don't combat it that way, when instead you try to say, which so many of our brothers and sisters did there and they do across the cities in the United States and elsewhere, and they say that, well, we want to combat racism too.
	And then they try to explain, trying to appropriate their victimizers' ideology, they fail fabulously every single time.
	And so you still have white people in South Africa today with what you're talking about there.
	The sewage systems are failing, electric systems are failing, water systems are failing, corruption by global standards, skyrocketing.
	Used to be a breadbasket by way of Rhodesia also gone to the dogs as a consequence of getting rid of the norms and physically also getting rid of the people and removing them from the positions of power that they created so that you end up with something that is no longer the West.
	It is not magic soil.
	There is no way that another, just like we can't take over what Asian people have made, we could not go to Asia and take over Japan and reproduce Japan as they create Japan.
	It's just physically impossible.
	We could make a facsimile of it, but it would not be Japan.
	We would end up making Western civilization again.
	And so bottom line is, you're 100% right.
	They're getting rid of, but before even physically getting rid of all of the white people in South Africa, they've taken them out of the positions of power that they created.
	Government institutions, they created.
	Businesses, empires, they created.
	They've removed them from power.
	They've removed them from the government.
	It is removed our norms and increasingly, as a consequence, looking like the people who are replacing them in those seats, looking like their projections and their norms for behavior that is replacing our norms for behavior.
	Again, there isn't a better or worse by any cosmic measure.
	It is a question of where do you want to live?
	What kind of environment do you want to live in?
	I want to live in the West.
	And that's why I want to keep it this way.
	So, as a closing statement on this, to kind of get your perspective in a deeper level, what would you say on the end result are the practical steps that people who see this as a problem, there's an assault on them for being white, but they don't want to be, you know, come across as racist.
	Let's just say that they have a job and they know that even the mention of this kind of stuff already puts you into the sus category of like, maybe you actually got a swastika underneath there.
	What is your practical advice for people who are not full of hatred, who have no desire to see other cultures or individuals fail, and they're not somehow white supremacists in the terms of the natural course of the way it's described in society that everyone else sucks and they need to die.
	They just simply are a white family.
	They have kids.
	They see their kids being bullied.
	They see diversity unchecked.
	They see problems at work where they lose a job opportunity, a school opportunity, a scholarship for these DEI initiatives.
	What can they do to actually advocate for themselves and, like you said, advocate for their well-being, their family's well-being, without getting into trouble?
	That's a fabulous question.
	I tell you, this is the thing that brings me the most story.
	This is, I've dedicated my life to freeing Western-kind white people of anti-whitism when I was 12 years old and to protecting white children from the worst child abuse the world has ever known, which is anti-white ideology, which teaches them, all of us have had to go through it, that we have this evil seed inside of us.
	You can never get away from that.
	And the only moral thing you could do then as a white person is be anti-white.
	Here's the thing you got to do: you have to view everything that's happening in the world to us as it actually is.
	When we talk about diversity at the workplace, that's actually getting rid of us.
	That's white erasing us from the workplace.
	If you want to object to that, you talk about it from that perspective.
	You never, because in your heart, it really shouldn't matter, complain about this group or that group getting preferential treatment, special privileges, or freedom from responsibility.
	That's not the complaint.
	The complaint is that we're being victimized.
	Stay focused on who and what we are.
	For example, we have testimonials by the hundreds, by the thousands of people who have gone into work environments, people have gone into school environments.
	And I'll share one quick one with you from a mother who they go into these environments and have fabulous success.
	Her very young son was given a book for her to read to the son so that he could answer questions in the class about this book.
	The mother began reading this book.
	These are wonderful people.
	Heidi is her name.
	Raya is the husband's name.
	And she began reading this book and saw that it was anti-white.
	There was a white little boy and a white little girl, and there were two non-white little boys.
	And they had built a tent.
	And the white little boy decided he wanted to destroy what they had made.
	And then the white little girl gets hurt, and the white little boy doesn't care.
	And then the non-white little boys and their fluffy dog come to her aid.
	There's more to it, but that's the synopsis.
	Very anti-white.
	She reaches out to me: What do I say, Jason?
	Well, how do I handle this?
	I'm furious.
	You can imagine there are a lot of different approaches that people could take upon seeing this or being confronted with this situation.
	And all but this would be harmful to them as individuals and to our people and to all peoples in Western civilization.
	I had a conversation with her.
	She was already pretty darn well aware of the kind of approach that we take, focused in love, hope, and redemption.
	And she ended up heading to have a conference with the teacher.
	And I believe the principal was present.
	And she said to them, Hey, this book is anti-white.
	I'm not going to teach, and here's how it's anti-white.
	not going to teach my little white boy that our people are evil and that I think it's wrong to be teaching the white little girls that they're going to be mistreated by white little boys but treated well by non-white little boys and their dogs.
	The teacher said, I hadn't even realized this.
	You're completely right.
	It is anti-white.
	She said, I'm going to not only not have your son have to go through this book.
	I'm taking it out of the curriculum.
	And we'll have another, we'll have something completely different that isn't demonizing white people.
	She didn't go in there and complain about the non-white children in the book.
	She didn't go in there and complain about the non-white people who published this book or a non-white author who wrote the book.
	She didn't go in there and say any of that because that's not the real complaint.
	At root, if you are focused in love and that's it, you will find your way to speaking out against our victimization.
	And you will find this, I can promise you, we have thousands of testimonials.
	There will be people from other groups that will step up right beside you and they will say, yes, that's wrong.
	It's wrong to demonize these people on the basis of their birth.
	You do that.
	And I promise you'll be coming back and you'll be sharing your stories of the successes that you've had.
	Not only can you talk about our victimization in the workplace and at school, as we have so many people sharing and succeeding with, not only can you talk about it, but you can not get fired, not get in trouble, and make a difference in the world today, make a difference in your life and those around you who are able to hear what you have to share and these great countries that we've created across the West as a whole.
	Yeah, I do appreciate that.
	And Jason, if people want to find you and support your work, if they want to follow you, what's the best place that they can track with you on social media and watch your videos?
	Well, you could head on over to youtube.com forward slash know whiteguilt and also knowwhiteguilt.org forward slash links.
	You'll find all my links.
	And on Sundays at 5 p.m., every Sunday at 5 p.m., we have what we call a going-free show, four and a half hours.
	And then I do roll-in shows throughout the week.
	And I just want to thank you so much, Elijah, for having me on.
	And you're doing great work.
	You make me laugh my ass off.
	Those tweets today are fantastic.
	And look forward to working together again with you at some point in the future, brother.
	Me too.
	And don't forget, this is audio only.
	I want to read you a quick review from somebody who loves the show to remind you you can get your review read on the show.
	Just here for the COC, Mr. Marty Guy said, one of the most amazing and talented journalists in media today, been with you through all the ventures and will always continue to watch and support you.
	Thank you to Elijah and Kez Queen Fetus.
	We really do appreciate to our guests today.
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	Thank you so much.
	Have a great rest of the week.
	And may God bless the United States of America.

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