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March 7, 2023 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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The INSIDIOUS ORIGINS of Modern Day FEMINISM | Guest: Rachel Wilson | Ep 320

Every conservative claims to be “anti-feminist,” but very few actually are. Some say it’s only the recent developments in feminism that actually hurt women and society, and that feminism is ONLY bad because it hurts women.Show more Today Elijah is joined by Rachel Wilson, in order to learn about the history of feminism, its founders, funders, and effects. Should women work, should women vote, did women want to work or vote in the 1910s. All this is discussed and more, on today’s Slightly Offensive… ________________________________________________________________ I'm now fully INDEPENDENT so JOIN the mission at https://elijahschaffer.locals.com/ You won't regret it! ________________________________________________________________ ⇩ SUPPORT THE SPONSORS ⇩ PIXOTINE: Get these amazing "No-Mess" nicotine toothpicks in amazing flavors right now 20% off when you visit https://pixotine.com/elijah. Try them all or buy some for a friend, they'll thank you later because they're are basically no restrictions on where you can use them! Be 21 or older to check them out BLACK FOREST: It seems that everything in modern society is used to attack masculinity, testosterone, fertility, and anything else that makes men, men. From microplastics to estrogen in the water, it's almost unavoidable. However, with Black Forest Supplement's 95% purity Turkesterone you can gain muscle, strength, and cure your libido with just one pill. This ultra high-purity capsule can be bought with a 20% DISCOUNT when you use THIS LINK: https://www.blackforestsupplements.com/elijah GROW TREES FAST: Join the over 1.5 million satisfied customers already enjoying their trees/plants/shrubs from Fast Growing Trees! Plus get all the support you need to make sure your plants grow strong and tell. Get ahead of the Spring time and get 15% right now at https://fastgrowingtrees.com/so ________________________________________________________________ ⇩ FOLLOW RACHEL⇩ YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@rachel.wilson TWITTER: https://twitter.com/Rach4Patriarchy LINKTREE: https://linktr.ee/RachelLWilson ________________________________________________________________ Slightly Offens*ve Merch: https://slightlyoffensive.com/shop/ ________________________________________________________________ DOWNLOAD AUDIO PODCAST & GIVE A 5 STAR RATING!: APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/7jbVobnHs7q8pSRCtPmC41 (also available Google Podcasts & wherever else podcasts are streamed) _________________________________________________________________ ⇩ SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/slightlyoffensive ➤ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer ➤ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/officialslightlyoffensive _________________________________________________________________ Show less

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Like, I think men are the coolest, but I don't need them to survive.
You do actually need men to survive.
And here's why.
Everything that you see around you was built and created and maintained by men.
Everything.
The infrastructure in this country, in every single country in the world, is built, created, and maintained by good, honest, hardworking men that just want to provide for their family.
everything the roads you drive on the buildings you live in don't you love modern feminism It's such a great accomplishment of our society.
It's like men get to be required to continue to behave like men, earn the money, be over six foot, be in shape, you know, all the difficult stuff, providing for the family, fighting in wars, etc.
While women, well, they get to fulfill none of their duties of actually being women that men desire, like cooking, cleaning, not being a hoe, while at the same time getting to experience all the benefits of being a man, like making money, getting to work, having independence, and of course, not being drafted.
Feminism is a destructive ideology, and we're going to talk about the origins of that today on this episode of Slightly Offensive.
This is the best worst show on the internet.
My name's Elijah Schaefer.
My guest today is Rachel Wilson.
She's a married mother of five.
She calls herself a patriarchist.
I don't know what that means.
Rachel, welcome to Slightly Offensive for the first time.
Well, thank you so much for having me.
It's great to be here.
Yeah, what do you mean by you're a patriarchist?
That's such a unique phrase.
And I've never heard that being used before.
Is that intellectual?
Did you make that up?
I totally made it up.
No, I'm just kidding.
No, it's just that I didn't want to define what I'm trying to do with my book and my work by what I'm not.
So I didn't want to be an anti-feminist.
And I also noticed there's a lot of supposed anti-feminist people out there with this type of messaging who I consider to be total grifters and phonies.
So I didn't want to be associated with them either.
And patriarchy has gotten a bad name.
And I want to restore the image of the patriarchy, if you will, because it's become synonymous with like oppression and slavery and things like that.
So I'm trying to rehabilitate the term to mean what it originally meant.
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Let's jump right back into the story.
So back to what we were talking about.
You obviously are the author of the book, Occult Feminism, The Secret History of Women's Liberation.
You've also been featured on Tucker Carlson.
You've been on the Jay Dyer podcast.
You've basically been pushing this message.
But I don't think we're learning, Rachel.
I don't think as a movement, we're learning.
As you and I were talking earlier today, before we even jump into the myth of what modern feminism has become, I would say everybody's become a victim of it.
Even the right-wing, they love hiring and putting on screen these pretty girls in their late 20s and their mid-30s.
They're hoes.
They ain't married.
They don't have children.
They're textbook feminists.
But of course, they say they're against feminism and they're causing the same problems in the right as we're seeing on the left all over the place.
Your understanding of this, I mean, how is feminism doing?
Has it accomplished what it set out to do of bringing equality and peace to our country?
Or has it caused more damage?
Oh my goodness.
I mean, that's why I wrote the book.
The reason I wrote the book is because the default setting for society for about the last 40 to 50 years now has been feminist.
Just like a fish doesn't know it's swimming in water, we don't realize we are being raised in a society that is default gynocentric feminist.
And you'll hear people on the right, you know, parrot nice things like, oh, well, you know, of course, first wave, that was good.
Everybody wants women to vote and they should have rights.
And we're not saying they can't work.
But this, you know, third and fourth wave feminism, that's gone too far.
And I completely disagree with that.
And I think to say something like that, you have to be very ignorant of the true history.
And I don't blame most people for not knowing it because gender studies departments have basically rewritten the history, which is why I wrote the book.
And it's very well sourced and documented because I realize these are claims that a lot of people are going to find really confusing and really foreign and seemingly backward from what they think they know.
So that's the reason I wrote the book was to make the case that, no, feminism did not create equality.
It created greater inequality.
It destroyed the equality that already existed prior to feminism.
And we have now 100 years of data that we can look back at to see what the results are.
And I would argue that they're not very good.
So let's talk about that.
So obviously today we're more painted a picture that feminism was this sort of like grassroots movement.
It was, you know, women just needed to be liberated.
They were so tired of the patriarchy of being oppressed.
But in your book, you actually talk about the history.
And this is so important for the SOB's slightly offensive backers not to forget that we have to have the context.
We've got to be ready for arguments.
You always have to be ready to give a defense.
That was one of the key things that Jesus said to Paul.
Be ready at all times to give a defense.
And if you don't know history, this is why we are still repeating it to this day.
You say it's actually been more of a, it was less of a bottom-up type of movement, but this was a top-down, iconoclastic push from elites, from established players, from people that had a plan in action.
Explain to me what you mean by that.
Yeah, so we are given this idea and this story and this narrative that one day in the late 1800s, women looked around and they said, oh my golly gosh, we're oppressed.
I need my own money.
I can't rely on a man.
I'm chained to the stove and forced to give birth until I die in labor and I can't leave the house without my husband's permission.
And life is so horrific and I'm enslaved and I've got to do something about this.
So they got their little signs and they took to the streets and they marched and they protested until the 19th Amendment was passed.
That's not at all what happened.
So, if you go back and actually look, prior to the passage of the 19th Amendment, very, very few women were in favor of it at all.
And, you know, I debate feminists regularly.
So, this is something that I agree with you on about having a defense and having really good, solid arguments that we can, you know, ground and substantiate.
And if you look back, they passed a lot of different referendums in different parts of the country asking women who would be potential voters if they even wanted that on the ballot.
Do they even want a woman's suffrage initiative on the ballot?
And only about 3.8% ever bothered to even come out and say they wanted to vote.
In addition to that, we had much bigger membership in anti-suffrage groups among women than we did pro-suffrage groups.
And these groups actually, the anti-suffrage groups had really good reasons why they were not interested in women's suffrage.
Things that I agree with to this day, and I think were very prescient and very well thought out.
They had great arguments at the time as well.
And a couple of those would be they did not want to risk being constricted, conscripted into the draft someday.
They did not want to be forced to do jury duty.
And they felt like if you're going to vote, if you're going to participate in politics and civil life and the governance of the nation, then you are going to be tasked with defending it.
And they didn't feel like that was something women could do.
They said, you're asking us to do something we're not even capable of doing.
We can't take up arms and defend the nation.
Certainly, 100 years ago, when it wasn't just drone warfare, they really couldn't.
We're talking like just prior to World War I and after the Civil War, when you're looking at things like trench warfare and women wanted nothing to do with it.
They thought it was going to divide homes and families.
They thought it was going to pit husband against wife.
That you would have husbands and men voting for, you know, just like we do today, the men tend to vote for things like lower taxes, policies that make it easier to support a family, policies that will protect the nation but provide freedom.
And that women, being childbearers and child rearers and nurturers, are going to vote for things like safety and security for like a bigger state, a more powerful state, because they have this inherent desire to be protected and to protect their children.
And they were right about all those things.
The other thing they foresaw was that this was going to take women out of the home inevitably.
And who was going to care for the children?
You can see in my book, I have some old posters from, you know, turn of the century where they're showing, you know, dads trying to be at home with all the kids while the women are out doing, women are out doing the suffrage march.
And that's exactly what happened.
In 1960, less than 6% of children were born to single working mothers in America.
And by 2013, that number became 58%.
So the vast majority of children now in school age are being raised in a daycare, in a state facility, in a public school system.
And they're spending at most an hour or two with their parents at home before they go to bed every night.
So they did see what was coming and they knew that that was a life they didn't want.
They were over generally very happy with their roles and with their influence in society.
Women had a lot of influence.
Just because they didn't have political power does not mean that they didn't have influence.
They certainly did in their communities, in schools, in churches, and in their family.
As you mentioned, I have five children, and someday when I'm gone, there will be dozens of grandkids and great-grandkids, and that will multiply down the line.
And my legacy will be what I did as a mother to raise my children.
Whereas if I had not done that and I had just gotten a corporate job, not had any children, I would die someday and my corporation would just replace me the next day, right?
And women knew this.
They were not stupid.
Well, yeah, they say, I mean, that's obviously the same thing, right?
Is that that men are replaceable or that men are expendable?
These are common, you know, ideas of that's how the state has always viewed us.
And it is interesting to me, though, how quickly we've gone.
I think you say there's only about 4% support for suffrage.
And for the SOBs that are out there, if you guys don't know what that means, it's not talking about suffering under listening to feminists have to speak to you day in and day out about how they should get paid as much as you, but have a four-hour day work week.
This has to do with like voting and actually having that contribution.
And voting is so much more than just like casting a ballot like today where they say, oh, everyone should vote, everyone should vote.
Voting used to be something respectable.
It meant you were informed.
It meant that you made, you know, you were a decision maker in the family.
You were probably a provider.
You paid taxes.
There was something significant about it.
So the move to suffrage wasn't just about giving women a voice, because I always say this, women had a voice.
If women were married and women were in a family, then they would make united decisions and that men would vote in a way that things would be beneficial for his family anyways.
Because no guy, let's just be real here, no guy wants to piss off his wife and wants to have an unhappy wife at home, have a wife that feels like he doesn't provide.
If anything, all men do is try to provide and work to make sure that their wife is protected, that she's provided for, and that she's at least happy to the extent that a woman can be.
And so I don't understand, though, if only 4% of people were actually supporting suffrage, how did a movement like that actually gain enough votes or enough passing to become a national movement?
And we look at like a civil rights victory.
Yeah, well, that's a very good question.
And I think it's one of the most important things that I detail in the book that I think most people don't know.
It was a small group of intellectuals and then a small group of wealthy elite who were kind of in contact with each other, similar to now, how you have academia and you have certain intellectuals, public intellectuals, who kind of inform the politicians and the wealthy elites as to what the agenda should be, right?
So we had this circle of intellectuals who tended to be very anti-Christian.
They felt that Christianity, specifically traditional Christianity, because even in the 1800s, there was a progressive Christian movement happening.
And these people opposed the traditional Christianity.
They felt like all progressives do, that by having boundaries and roles and things like that, that it was limiting progress, right?
And they were kind of proto-New Agers who wanted to see this futuristic melding of genders.
People think this is new, but it's actually very old.
This goes back actually to ancient times, but there was a huge movement in the middle 1800s among fortune tellers, spiritualists, theosophists, and ultra-progressive Christians.
I wouldn't consider them to be, I would consider them to be like heterodox Christians, but they specifically wanted to destroy the influence of traditional Christianity.
And they thought the nuclear family was limiting things like sexual liberation.
And so we need to tear all this down.
We need to get rid of all this so that we can rebuild society in the image that we want.
And of course, the wealthy elites of the time really loved this idea because the first industrial revolution had just happened.
We had these huge transnational corporations for the first time, people like Rockefeller's and Carnegie's, you know, railroad and oil magnates who wanted big factories with huge labor pools, very cheap labor, and politicians who wanted to double the tax base.
So the same group, you might know about the Jekyll Island Club in 1910 who met at Jekyll Island in secret to draft the legislation that would become the Federal Reserve Act.
And then that would lead into the income tax in 1913.
This same group of people wanted women's liberation because they thought if we can get women out of the home and have them working in factories or even have children, women and children working in factories, this will be great because it will lower the wages because we'll have a surplus of labor all of a sudden.
So we'll get cheap labor and we'll also be able to put children in daycares.
In the Soviet Union, they were called crushes.
And that will be perfect because they were just establishing the public education system at the time, which was designed by Horace Mann, Elizabeth Peabody, and others who liked the Prussian model, which was going to turn citizens into well-conditioned little corporate cogs in the wheel.
And instead of teaching them like a classical education, we will train them to be good worker bees and good soldiers, good obedient citizens, right?
So if you're the elite at the time, this is a great plan because it gives you everything you want.
So it was actually Elva Vanderbilt Belmont, who was married to William Kissim Vanderbilt, divorced him, married his best friend, and was one of the first beneficiaries of getting a giant divorce settlement.
She became one of the wealthiest women in the world at the time.
And then her second husband, Mr. Belmont, who was a Rothschild banker, also died.
And then she had this huge sum, this huge fortune, and she gave it all to the suffrage movement.
She created their headquarters.
She did most of the, paid for all the marketing, got all the suffragettes who were doing terrorism out of jail, things like that.
So really without her and her influence, it would have taken at least much longer.
And then shortly after she funded that and suffrage was passed, we had like the Rockefeller family, the Ford Foundation, and all of these giant philanthropic entities also helping to fund and accelerate feminism because again, they really loved this idea of we get all this cheap labor, we double the tax base, and then the children are in state institutions all day where we can basically train them and propagandize them however we want.
So it gave them total control.
Well, and this is where I think it's so interesting because I know that as human beings, we're sort of born into a system and we have to awaken out of it, right?
I mean, even in Christianity, it's called today being born again.
Like you are enlightened and elucidated to the truth.
And so then you are awakened.
People call it being red-pilled, right?
You're pulled out of the matrix.
There's so many different terms that people have for this.
But a lot of us don't realize how unnatural something like this is and how much money it takes, how much influence it takes outside factors, but also how quickly it can take root if the improper defenses are up.
And a good example of that outside of feminism would clearly be the targeting of children for sexualization, right?
I mean, it was just about 2012, 2011 that people said, well, can gay people get married?
And I don't think anyone was like really, really, really mad that gay people existed at the time.
They just said, hey, if we start changing the concept of marriage, which is a union from God that the state recognizes, then we start messing with the natural order, the natural process of life.
And it's a very dangerous route with humans insert themselves against the natural flow of life.
It creates a cataclysmic, chaotic society.
But of course, you know, we saw 10 years later, now we're wondering why adults can't have sex with kids.
That's the question today.
I mean, well, why can't they?
Why can't kids consent, et cetera?
I mean, this is such a quick, you know, descent down into absolute depravity.
And feminism is sort of the same way, right?
I mean, it started with, well, don't you want women to vote?
It's always like the devil in the garden, like, oh, don't you want to be like God?
Don't you want to have knowledge?
Don't you want to understand?
But there's so much hidden behind it.
You might not have the answer to this, but it seems like everything that's happened in Western society can usually be traced around between 1910 and 1965.
This Jekyll Island, Rothschild, foreign banking, moving off the gold standard, immigration policies changing.
Was this an American movement?
Were these Americans like the Ford Foundation, or was this some sort of like an outside factor, like banking clan type influence to radically transform a powerhouse?
Because I feel like a lot of people want to know who is really behind this.
Yeah, so I'm releasing a second book later this year that the research portion is all finished already.
And it's not a uniquely American thing.
My first book focuses on the West.
So I go over what happened in America and England because those two were kind of in lockstep with each other.
Even the timeline was very similar.
All of those prominent feminists, who, by the way, were propped up by the establishment.
They were not like, again, grassroots women who just took pen to paper one day and became really compelling.
And everybody was like, wow, listen to her.
She's so smart.
No.
These were like women who were groomed, selected, and then propped up by the people who wanted this and they were used to help promote it.
Those people were the same transnational elite, bloodline families that have been kind of pushing this agenda.
It's arguable how far back you want to go with it.
I go all the way back to ancient times and like goddess worship and temple prostitution and those sort of things.
It's kind of the same spirit behind all of this.
It's always been an anti-Christian, anti-patriarchal force or spirit that's behind it.
But the current incarnation that we're dealing with goes back at least to around the time of the French Revolution and the Enlightenment.
It would start with like Mary Wollstonecraft being the first feminist that they really put out there.
And she was in circles of intellectuals at the time who were ultra-progressive revolutionaries, Thomas Paine, William Godwin, a lot of the people that you might be familiar with.
And those people, again, were kind of propaganda arms for wealthy banking elite families in Europe, for people with royal bloodlines, things of that nature, where they are the managerial class that wants to manage the future.
They want to steer the agenda, think tanks and groups like the Club of Rome, the Malthusians, because this is, again, another depopulationist kind of agenda.
I saw you had Jay Dyer on back in January and he was talking about this.
It's very much tied in with that agenda.
So it was basically those people.
And my next book is about how they pushed feminism in the Eastern bloc among the Bolsheviks and the communists, and that it was a totally different tactic, but it was the same people, wealthy Wall Street types, funding that as well.
A lot of people don't know that a lot of what happened with the Bolsheviks and the Soviets was funded by Western banking elites as well.
So that's kind of how they did this.
This is kind of who pushed it.
Was always meant to be kind of a global phenomenon because, again, this was around the time that these people started forming giant transnational corporations, everything becoming mechanized, factories, and they're trying to build wealth, gather resources, and control human capital.
So, liberating women just drove the agenda on multiple fronts.
And the reason I think talking about feminism is so important now is because it does not get the credit it deserves for being the wrecking ball that it is.
We have had in the span of a century, a century is a very short period of time in the grand scope of history, right?
And what we did in 100 years was completely invert the natural order of everything that human beings do.
So, feminism affected everything from your government, the structure of it, who's in charge, who's elected, what we think about when we think of power or leadership.
It changed the family.
It basically destroyed the family unit.
I mean, my last chapter, I go over all the different statistics just showing how badly the family has been obliterated and destroyed in the span of a century.
And this was the plan.
This was not like an unintended consequence.
This is what it was for.
This is what it was meant to do.
Because all the things you were just talking about, where now we're talking about, you know, why can't children have gender-affirming surgery?
Or why can't people have sex with kids?
You couldn't even begin to have those conversations until you got the protectors out of the way.
The fathers, the husbands, the brothers, right?
You couldn't get to the children or to the women until you removed the men because the men are the protectors and they're the ones that hold everything together and create the boundaries.
Women are much, much more easily led and propagandized.
So that's how it happens so quickly.
When you just fill the institutions with people pushing feminist messaging, it's going to get to women.
And women inherently want to obey.
They want to be considered good, right?
They're very scared of being outcast from society, which is a biological imperative we have because we want to survive and we want our offspring to survive.
So for us to be ostracized would mean death in a survival situation.
So it's very easy to get to the women if you convince them that the men are the enemy and need to be pushed out of the way.
Then you then think about if you're a predator.
Who's better than a single mom with children if you're a predator?
So it was all intentional.
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Let's jump back into the conversation.
So going back to that subject, you know, that's where we get a lot of even, like you mentioned, like the Me Too movement, for instance, or different things where women will gang up and they'll agree or they'll give false accusations and they'll try to paint someone as bad because they feel like, well, you know, I'm taking down a bad guy.
And even if it's not based in the truth, it's like, well, but my other friends will accept me and I'm going to be, you know, propped up by them.
And I don't want to be seen as the person going against the flow.
And you end up with all these destructive sub-movements that have came out of feminism simply based on this idea.
And not just the Me Too movement, but we obviously have other movements too, like the fat acceptance movement, the whore acceptance movement, right?
Like, because it's like, you know, you're fat, but slay queen and fat is beautiful.
And women are less likely to really want to stand up, go against the flow, use their gut instinct, and just say, no, fat's ugly, fat's disgusting.
If the mob is going in a direction, that's where women are likely to go.
And this is one of the gynocentric negatives that I find in society.
This is where cancel culture comes from, where mob mentality comes from.
This is where so many of these underlying movements, these woke movements, the right claims to want to fight against come from gynocentrism.
It comes from a lack of men to say, no, who cares if 99 people are saying something's true?
If they don't have evidence, if they're not producing evidence and they don't have then, you know, evidence behind what they're saying, then they might be wrong.
And I'm willing to stand up and say I might be the last person, like with the lockdowns, with COVID, et cetera, that I might be saying they're wrong and I might not have anyone on my side, but I'm going to keep fighting for what's right because what?
It's a masculine tendency.
And so it is crazy that people think, well, it's just feminism.
What harm does it do?
Not everyone wants to be in a family.
Women raise kids fine.
But really, all of society is now in this feminine energy, this feminist energy, I should say, which is misplaced, right?
Feminine energy should be pushed towards mothering, towards nurturing, towards looking out for the home.
And you brought up something really interesting.
You know, I would say one of the factors that mostly combats this, that puts us back in our roles, would be Christianity.
And there's a lot of talk recently about, you know, with Michael J. Knowles, he said that we should eradicate transgenderism.
And the left media got so upset saying, okay, he said he wanted to eradicate transgenders.
It would have been based if he said that, but he didn't.
He actually just said this equivalent of, I don't want to eradicate cancer patients.
I want to eradicate cancer, right?
So that's different.
And the left goes, well, what if we made a war against Christianity?
Would you be happy?
And I'm like, bro, that's what the entire culture war has been.
And it looks like it's not a modern advancement.
You talked a lot about how feminism, you know, finds its root from people like Elizabeth Katie Stanton, who actually very early on, back in the late 1800s with other feminists, actually started by rewriting the Bible, started by attacking Christianity.
I never heard that before.
Can you explain that to me?
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
We never get told this.
We hear about Susan B. Anthony and how great she was.
And Trump even gave her a post, you know, like a post-mortem pardon for when she was arrested for, you know, her activism.
But the first of all, the reason that you don't know any of this history and the reason it sounds crazy to people when I say this, and they're like, that can't be true.
That can't be true.
I would know about it.
When the Ford Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation kind of united to create gender studies in the late 1960s, right around 1970, they created this department and this new academic field of study to put in major universities around the country at the time in order to literally rewrite the history.
And this is not my opinion.
They tell you this in their own white papers.
That's who's my source in my book.
That's who I cite.
They brag about the fact that they created gender studies and women's studies to rewrite history from the standpoint of the oppressed woman.
And they call this standpoint feminism.
So that's why the common understanding now is women have always been oppressed.
Life for women was slavery before 1919, you know, and it was so unjust and they were so marginalized and so oppressed.
That's not really true.
And I take a couple of chapters to demonstrate all the different ways that women really weren't oppressed and all the things they were in fact doing and didn't get punished for or marginalized for at all.
So that's the reason that you don't know it is because they literally rewrote the history from the standpoint of a radical Marxist feminist.
But the true history is that women had plenty of influence in society, even though they might not have been like leadership positions.
They're not senators, governors, CEOs, or anything like that.
But they had a tremendous amount of influence by being the backbone of every community, of every church, of every family.
Of when we used to have close-knit communities filled with different families that were all very intermixed and knew each other very well and people were so much more connected, women had tremendous influence.
And what feminism did was actually threw that balance off.
And one of the arguments I frequently use is the fact that we know through genetic studies now that each of us alive today has twice as many female ancestors as we do male ancestors.
So historically, throughout time, about 80% of women who ever reached maturity were able to reproduce.
Only about 40% of men historically were ever able to reproduce.
As you said, men have been considered expendable.
They were cannon fodder.
They were, you know, they were worked to death in fields and were expected to sacrifice their lives for their families, for their country, for their communities.
So that's a huge advantage.
If you're talking about a balance of power between the sexes, women having double the genetics passed on, we're basically the choosers, right?
We're basically the ones who select who gets to procreate and who doesn't.
And people think, you know, it was all arranged marriages or something, but that's really not true.
That was more of the like upper classes and things like that in most parts of the world.
So women had tremendous influence because we're selecting the genetics that are going to get passed on.
We're choosing which men get to have children.
And then through the family, through marriage, property is passed on, a legacy is passed on.
And if you're going to have intergenerational wealth, it's going to be passed on through marriage and family, right?
Which is one of the reasons Marxists love feminism and wanted to get rid of the dad, get rid of patriarchy, get rid of paternal lineage.
Because if men don't know who their progeny are, there is no incentive to build wealth.
There is no incentive to have a legacy or to pass anything on because you don't even know which children are yours.
So this is something that, again, was intentional to destroy that.
And feminism created a situation where now in modern times today, we have women controlling about 85% of all consumer spending globally.
Talk about power.
Women control 85% of every consumer dollar spent.
So all the marketing is aimed toward them.
All of the research and development is aimed toward what they want.
Everything revolves around what women will buy because they tend to buy everything from health care to insurance to consumer goods.
Then on top of that, we now have, you know, they're demanding equality in things like government positions, politics.
We want 50% of CEOs to be female.
We want 50% of people in STEM fields to be female.
So we've got women in all these power positions and they control all the money and they still control who gets to procreate and they win in family courts, like way out of proportion to men.
Women win in family courts.
They get less time for a crime they would commit.
That's the exact same as a man.
So they could commit the same crime as a man, get half the sentence, get half the penalty.
Public opinion generally is very forgiving of women in their past, whereas it's not so much with men.
You brought up the Me Too movement.
That's another thing.
So really what we have in modern times is a gross imbalance of power where women hold a disproportionate amount of power compared to men.
And the biggest problem with that is that who holds that power?
Young women, right?
Young, fertile, attractive women.
Kylie Jenner made more money than any man the last couple of years in her, like, you know, in entertainment and all of that stuff, retail with her makeup and all of her different branding.
She like tripled what Kanye West made the last few years.
So young, attractive, fertile women have an enormous amount of power that they have no idea what to do with because they're young and they're attractive, right?
And they don't know that that is a very temporary part of their life.
So it's really a disaster.
And I go over all the effects of this in my book and kind of make the case that, hey, not only did this not turn out good for men, but it turned out horrible for women.
And it turned out even worse for children.
Arguably, the biggest victims of feminism are children.
They're growing up in broken homes without fathers, which puts them at high risk for just about every bad thing you can think of.
Yeah, you know, before I even get into more of the problems that this causes, I think it's important to point out the fact that not only has this been, like you said, a systemic issue of attacking Christianity, of outside billionaires, of banking Klan members, et cetera, influencing this, but you've also pointed out how much the government is involved.
You mentioned earlier, even how Trump pardoned, you know, Susan B. Anthony and the way the government sort of uplifted this role, right, with programs and grants from the NIH, et cetera, to push for women engineers and women scientists.
But as many of us know, the CIA of all organizations has, you know, largely worked against the American people, has been spying on us, especially since 2001, going back even to Operation Mockingbird before then to completely disintegrate and ruin the fabric of the Christian society that we had built.
But you also talk about the fact that the CIA actually played some role and continues to play some role, perhaps in the propagation of this sort of destructive force of modern feminism.
Why do you say that?
Yeah, really quickly, I wanted to go back and address your previous question because I like to get on a roll and say all my stuff here.
The reason they wanted to rewrite the Old Testament of the Bible was because Elizabeth Cady Stanton said right in the foreword to the women's Bible that the only thing standing between us and real women's liberation is traditional Christianity.
And it's so influential that we can't get rid of it.
We just have to co-opt it and turn it into something completely unrecognizable from what it is now.
And that was the impetus.
So she got a bunch of occultists, theosophists, atheists, even people who were into some witchcraft and things like that to help her rewrite the Bible.
You can still find it on Amazon today, unbelievably.
It's been in print for like 140 years.
So that's that.
And then the CIA, very interestingly, when the second wave really got going, when they really made the push to really get women out of the home after World War II and keep them in factories, get them out into the workforce.
This was the same time, right, that the OSS became the CIA and they were really looking into a lot of things about mind control and how to influence public opinion.
Things like MKUltra, which started in 1953.
I've done a ton of research and work on that.
This was kind of part and parcel of that.
It was part of both Operation Mockingbird and the Congress for Cultural Freedom, which was kind of like a Cold War propaganda effort by the CIA to influence people's perceptions of Soviet communists, as well as Americanism and spreading that throughout the world and what that was supposed to look like.
So they did things like they funded Playboy magazine in the 60s.
The CIA did.
They recruited Gloria Steinem out of Smith College, sent her to India, made her part of the Congress for Cultural Freedom, and had her spread messages of women's liberation in Eastern Europe and India before they brought her back here to the States and began Ms. Magazine with her as like the lead editor and kind of the face of it.
Because for the time, Gloria Steinem was kind of considered attractive as far as the feminists went, because the other people you had to choose from would have been like Betty Friedan or Simone de Beauvoir, who were not lookers, were a little off-putting, were not people who the American public would look at and want to listen to.
But Gloria Steinem was like this kind of fashion-savvy kind of woman, somewhat attractive.
She looked like the face of the new woman in the 60s counterculture.
So they gave her a bunch of money, started Ms. Magazine, and you can see the very first cover of Ms. Magazine has a picture of the Hindu goddess Kali on the front of it.
And you're thinking, why in the 1970s, if you're trying to sell a magazine about feminism to suburban housewives, would you pick a blue-skinned Hindu goddess with like eight arms and she has like severed men's heads in a necklace that she wears and she has severed men's arms around her waist on her belt and she's always got blood dripping from her mouth.
And so very horrifying, right?
Why would they pick this if they're trying to get suburban American women into feminism?
Well, it's because Kali has been an icon of feminism from ancient times, where she's actually responsible for one of the most murderous cults.
It's in the Guinness Book of World Records.
There was a cult she had.
The modern word thug actually comes from the word thuggies, which were a cult dedicated to Kali that murdered only men and sacrificed men to her because she's a bloodthirsty goddess who's supposed to symbolize like the vengeful, wrathful, destructive feminine nature.
And that's who they put on the very first cover of the first mainstream feminist magazine, which was funded by the CIA.
It's totally nuts.
People would never think that that's true, but it's mainstream knowledge.
You can go to CIA.gov and read all about it if you want to, or you can read about it in my book.
So they started there and then just kind of continued to push it as part of this culture creation that the CIA was involved in at that time.
It's absolutely incredible.
And it feels like the United States was a different country before the 1920s, you know, before we moved on and sold out our country to the feds and began the downward spiral of what we see today.
While at the same time, growing economically through consistent warfare, proxy wars, the Cold War, World War II, I mean, these things, United States economy has been very strong, the largest thing the world has ever seen in terms of, you know, global connectedness.
But the fabric and the morality and the character of our country has eroded so much.
And now I'm myself, you know, come out of LA.
I didn't even realize how much a lot of this stuff permeated society until I left that culture.
Because even recently, you know, I've thought about the same things.
I thought, oh, you know, there's an unmarried, you know, childless working girl.
She shares my ideas.
She probably could make a great asset.
And it turns out you can take a feminist out of the culture, but you can't take the feminism out of the feminist.
I mean, if their lives aren't living according to what they're preaching, then really, I mean, you see today we have, you know, women's leadership summit coming up.
And we have no male leadership summits, no white male leadership summits.
We have black leadership summits.
There's nothing for the white man, nothing for the straight man, nothing for the man.
And that's at the center of it before race, before, you know, sexuality and everything.
It's a neglect of the man because you can kind of hit those other categories once you start there.
And you say, well, let's look at men and where they're at.
And let's look at the wholeness of who they are.
Why are we promoting woman leaders, Rachel?
Like, why is that where our movement has gotten to?
Is that that's what we see as the way out of this?
Let's promote women to take leadership roles.
Like, is that a good idea?
I think it's a terrible idea.
And this is where I get the most backlash.
I do get a ton of, I have some very dedicated fans, haters, if you will, out there who absolutely just despise me and think that I am like the worst thing that's ever happened.
Probably because I am a careerless mother who like my older three children are now adults who are moved out and on their own.
And my younger two who are still at home and homeschooled are older now.
So I've got a little bit of time.
And this is something that I've been researching and talking about for a long time because four of my girls, four of my children are girls.
And I started really thinking about my own life and my legacy and what I wanted to leave them.
You know, I thought of like writing a diary of all the things that I had learned because like most women, when I was young, I was raised in the go-girl 80s and 90s with like She-Ra and Oprah and Shania Twain and, you know, Madonna and all this stuff.
And it was like always pushed on me.
And I was in smart kid classes all the way through school.
And it was like, you're going to have a career.
You're going to have a career.
And everything about my childhood was pushing me towards college and a career.
And I turned 20 and had my first child.
And I did not want to do that.
I couldn't imagine how a career could be more important, how I could take my daughter and send her to some other woman who I'm going to pay half what I make to this other woman to do my job, which is raise my child.
Well, I go work for a corporation that I pretend to care about.
And I just kind of looked around and went, this is ridiculous.
It's inefficient.
It's heartbreaking.
It's traumatizing to me.
It's traumatizing to my infant daughter.
And the women around me just kind of went, You'll get used to it.
You'll get used to it.
This is how it is now.
This is how it is now.
And I knew something was wrong with that.
And it was really just out of me having to defend my life choices to everyone around me, even conservatives, even Christians, right?
Who are telling me I needed to have a job.
I needed to have my own money.
I was going to regret it someday to depend on my husband to support the family.
And what if he leaves me?
And they fear-mongered me to death about not having a career.
And I thought, we don't do that to career women.
We don't fear monger them to death about all the things that could go wrong if they don't like their career field, if they're not very good at it.
If they have the average woman now holds $35,000 in college debt, 65% of all college debt in this country is held by women, and then we expect them to have children.
That's insane.
So I just felt like this was very backwards.
It didn't make sense.
And so I went and investigated and started doing research.
I wrote the book, really kind of, it was meant to be for my children.
I didn't know if anyone would ever read it, but here we are now.
So I'm on the internet talking about it.
And surprisingly, some of the worst backlash I've gotten has been from the right.
I had a staffer for Candace Owens just berating me on Twitter once about how I'm not out there increasing the GDP.
I'm a bad American because I'm not contributing to the economic growth.
And, you know, I'm being selfish by staying home and focusing on my own family when I should be out there helping Uncle Sam and things like this.
And I thought, these people have been propagandized completely.
They're not that none of that makes sense, right?
So I think that that's what's happening on the right is we they want this big tent, right?
We're gonna we're gonna compromise everything and we're going to tell everybody that you know all of your personal choices and everything, all the morality, all the things that are essential to the foundation of traditional Christianity in America.
We're just going to throw all of that away.
And as long as we focus on the GDP and the economy and American dominance and foreign policy, everything will be fine.
Meanwhile, domestic life here in the United States is basically hell world now.
And it's because we destroyed the family.
We took mothers and made them corporate cogs.
We just threw away fatherhood.
Like, who even cares about those guys?
You know, you don't need a dad and women don't need a man.
And so children are being raised with mothers who are part-time nights and weekends moms, right?
They mother around their career.
The career is always first because you can't be late.
You can't have too many absences or anything like that.
So if you have to go to before-school daycare and then you go to school for seven hours, then you go to after-school daycare and mommy sees you for maybe an hour or two and then you go to dad's every other weekend, somehow this is acceptable.
And we don't think this is going to make children insane and vulnerable.
Things like childhood ADHD and anxiety and depression used to be extremely rare and now they are common.
Now it's like, what child doesn't have these conditions?
And we have 25% of all adult American women on a psychiatric drug.
We have 88% of all American women on birth control at some point in their lives.
So we, in the span of 100 years, we've completely destroyed the entire foundation of morality and of Christianity to the point that people are just leaving it all.
People are just leaving the church and abandoning it.
And just so we've got a GOP that stands for nothing because it's like, eh, well, the women need careers.
You had Trump pushing this with Ivanka all the time.
This was my biggest criticism of him: this get moms to work, get moms to work.
We have to pass bills and create funding so moms can work.
And I was like, why?
Why do you want moms to be at work?
They already have a job, which is raising their children.
And that is not something you can do part-time.
And it's heartbreaking to me.
So my whole purpose is to try to destroy that the same way that they destroyed the family and destroyed what motherhood used to be.
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And it does make me very sad.
Like I said, that, you know, not only are men told to step down and to not behave in the roles that they should be living in, but they say that women can actually, you know, fulfill those roles better.
But women are unhappy and men are unhappy, which means that we're living outside of our design.
And I want to bring that up into a discussion, the fact that it's okay if as a man, you don't fully meet all the criteria of what an ideal man is.
It's part of what the journey of life is about.
You learn about what you need, whether you need physical fitness, whether you need mental acuity, or you need to draw nearer to God.
Like we fall short of God's glory.
We all sin.
We all make mistakes.
Some of us have disadvantages, disabilities, but we don't give up.
And we don't stop trying to fight and stop trying to be better and stop trying to take our lives.
No matter how many times we fall, the number that's used in the Bible is falling seven times.
So it says you fall seven times and you get back up, meaning you can fall completely again and again, but you've got to keep trying.
And the solution to a broken world is not then let men step aside and let women begin to start taking their roles outside of their design and their roles and give them the power seat.
Because I saw one Democrat, one liberal guy recently put out a picture of all these failed female politicians like Jacinda Ardern and these weird people from the UN and just said, can't we just admit here at the very least that women are not the solution?
If anything, can you just admit they're just as washed up as all the men that you admit, you know, are failing our world and our country?
Meaning the fact that women haven't even been said are equal, but they're on a pedestal, that they're actually the solution.
Women doing men's jobs and men's roles is the answer.
Yet at the same time, when that happens, it doesn't just break up the marriage.
It doesn't just ruin the woman's life.
It ruins the children's life.
And I feel like that's really what the enemy is after.
That's really what the elites are after.
That's really the global cabal of what they want to destroy is they want to rob the next generation of any advantage that they might have to have self-control, impulse control, stability.
Because why are they going to waste time and money indoctrinating and forcing kids in college to become feminists when they can already cause them to be born into a family where they're feminist by nature, where they have to survive and they have to work and they don't have that ability to even think about or learn about who they are and who God designed them to be and what they should be.
They're sort of stuck.
And so, you know, my question, my closing question for you is: what is the true damage that this has done?
And what would your solutions be to young men who are looking to change that, you know, and two young women who are looking to change the pattern maybe even they grew up in, right?
Where they want to be a woman in the home and the men want to provide a home to have a woman.
What advice do you have for people that are trying to break that generational curse and how to escape that damage?
Yeah, well, the first thing I would like to say is that there's a quote from Simone de Beauvoir that I use all the time because I think it's so telling and so revealing about what feminism really was about and how it happened this way.
This was from an interview between her and Betty Friedan where they were discussing feminism.
And she said, I'm kind of paraphrasing here a little bit, but she said, we cannot give women the option to stay home and just raise their children and be wives and mothers because if we give them that choice, too many of them will choose it.
So we have to make the choice for them.
We have to push them out of the home and we have to push them into the workplace and we have to push them into leadership roles.
Now, you may not know anything about Simone de Beauvoir.
She was a philosopher who was the partner of Jean-Paul Sartre, who was a French existentialist, very influential.
And the two of them together got in a lot of trouble, even in France.
They were campaigning to get the age of consent lowered and they got into a lot of legal trouble for grooming young girls.
They were both teachers.
And she would groom young girls to be brought into the relationship with her and her partner and partake in that in a sexual way.
So very dark stuff, very creepy stuff.
This is something that in every profile I've done of feminists historically, even the really famous ones you probably know, all the way to the less famous ones you probably don't know.
There's a very clear pattern of these women being sexual deviants, leaving their husbands, abandoning their children, being swingers, being into orgies and the occult and all these sorts of things.
So this is fundamentally an anti-Christian sentiment.
It's a rebellion against God the Father.
It's a rebellion against real patriarchy, which means men, yes, men have the monopoly on physical power and they are the leaders and they are the providers and they are the protectors.
But what's happened is that men now have to do all of that.
They have to kill themselves, you know, at work to keep the infrastructure up, to build the modern world and keep it going.
They have all the responsibility, but none of the like enjoyment that might come with that.
Whereas women, as you said in the beginning, have all of this power and yet none of the responsibility.
They are pretty much exempt from responsibility.
They can just fall back and like, oh, I'm just a girl and I didn't know and I didn't mean it and I'm really sorry.
And they can just get away with murder.
So this has thrown the balance off, but there is good news.
The good news is I believe Simone de Beauvoir when she says that if we give women the option, most of them will choose to be women, to be mothers, to be wives.
And the sexual revolution was a really bad deal for men.
It was a really bad deal.
It was a Faustian bargain.
You guys thought you were going to get free sex without strings attached.
And it turns out that all that happens is you lose your power in society.
You have no claim to your own children anymore.
If your wife just feels like the neighbor makes her feel more sexy, she can run off with him and take your children and you can't do anything about it, right?
So, this new sexually liberated world where we have OnlyFans girls on every corner, like every girl darn near has an OnlyFans the minute she turns 18 and the internet is flooding with simps who support them and encourage the behavior.
We can reverse this.
The bad news is women are easily propagandized, but the good news is women are easily propagandized.
So, if men behave in a way, especially men who do have status, resources who are desirable, if you guys all start not rewarding the thought behavior, the hoey behavior that's going on out there, if you start shaming those women and saying, ugh, no thanks, like that is just not what we're after, we want motherhood material.
We want, you know, when we look at Mary, the Virgin Mary in Christianity and how she's held up as this archetype of womanhood, she's innocent, she's pure, she's a mother, she's selfless, she's modest.
Jesus even listened to her, right, when she was, when they were at the wedding and she told him to give the people wine for their wedding.
He even deferred to her a bit and listened to her there.
We can restore motherhood and make that the cool thing again.
My grandmother is turning 97 in April, and I'm going to interview her for my YouTube channel.
And when she was young, choosing a husband, it was like she knew she had to bring something to the table.
She knew she had to be a good mother.
She had to come from a reputable family.
She had to be, you know, ideally a virgin or at least have a very good, clean reputation.
Whatever man was going to commit to marrying her had to be reasonably certain she was not going to go off and have an affair or take his children or cause him all kinds of grief and problems and nightmares in life.
You know, she was expected to be a woman of value and substance, aside from just her body and her looks and her sexuality.
We can make that cool again.
We can make motherhood great again.
We can make womanhood great again.
We just have to have men who are the most desirable men discourage that behavior and reinforce what they want and what they're looking for.
So we can influence women and in a way that's good for them.
Because as I said, this has been terrible for women.
Women are miserable.
They are, we're looking at by the year 2030, having more than half of women of childbearing age be single and childless and focused on their career.
That could be like a catastrophic humanity ending situation.
We've never had that in all of history, where more than half of women of childbearing age are refusing to have children.
That's insane.
So it's a very important problem, but I do think that we can impact it.
The birth rates are super low.
I don't think we need to worry about overpopulation.
And we can just encourage motherhood, make that the cool, desirable thing again, and do some thought shaming like Elijah does on his show here, which I love.
I have to say, when I hear you go off on them, it just does my heart a little bit of good.
You know what I mean?
Because it's not mean.
It's what's needed.
It's what's necessary at this point.
Yeah, they really have been out of control for too long and been very, I've experienced my personal life, can really get out of hand very quickly.
And they're like snakes, like all snakes, right?
Sometimes they're in the bushes and they bite when they think that you're, when they feel threatened and when they feel like you're not looking.
But we have to be really careful because, like I say, it's be on the lookout, everybody, because hoflation is real and women's value has really gone down.
But of course, God wants to bring the value up.
So we've got to make sure that we're starting at an early time.
I was going to talk at a future episode about only 5% of women getting married today are virgins, which is crazy.
And then over 20% of women, I think, have over 10 or more partners.
So there's a greater portion of women who are like absolutely the lowest of hoes, the lowest of lows and the lowest of hoes, while very few are actually holding true to the one value that can actually make a marriage last.
Remember, there are hoes and home acres, but we got to try to work on ourselves and all continue to work better.
Rachel, if people want to find you, if they want to follow you, if they want to check out your book, I know we have the links to everything in the description.
People can click down below.
They can support you as we want to do here at Slightly Offensive.
But if you want to plug yourself, where's the best couple places that they can get in contact with you and then track your ideas here?
Yeah, if you look for me on YouTube, I have a brand new baby YouTube channel where I'm going to talk about all these things because not everybody wants to read a whole book filled with dense historical information.
So I'm going to do YouTube.
I've got a few videos up there already.
It's just Rachel Wilson and that has my link tree in it in the about section.
You can also find more of my writing on rwilson.substack.com.
I write a lot about this problem as well as some other things like crypto history, CIA shenanigans, and things that the global elite are up to that are kind of related to this.
There, if you like smaller, you know, you just want an article, you don't want a whole book.
And then Twitter, I'm at Rach, the number four patriarchy.
So you can see all my offensive tweets and get really triggered.
Watch me on the Crucible YouTube channel.
That's a debate platform that I'm on all the time, debating feminists and making them cry and rage quit.
So if you enjoy that sort of thing, if you like a little brutality, you can find me on the Crucible on YouTube.
Awesome, Rachel.
Thank you so much.
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