What make Serial Killers Tick? - Idaho Killer | SLIGHTLY CLIPS
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You've been involved to what capacity both in the investigation and in the media's attention on the Moscow, Idaho case.
Well, I have been mesmerized by it from the beginning.
First of all, you know, it's a whodunit.
Well, it was a whodunit.
And I know, yes, he is innocent until proven guilty, but it's not looking good for him.
Let's just say that.
really have been paying very close attention because I do a lot of commenting about it.
And I've written a, I write a column for frontpagedetectives.com called Inside the Criminal Mind.
And I did my most recent column on Brian Koberger, the suspect in the Idaho killings.
Yeah, so okay, let's jump right into that.
I have here a quote from you directly where you talked a little bit about that the murder was not only personal, but it was someone enraged enough to kill four people in this vicious manner.
He fits the profile of an incel.
So, Doctor, what is an incel, not in terms of slaying on the internet?
I mean, we all have seen the memes and everything, but according to an expert like yourself, how would you describe that?
Yes.
An incel is a man who has built up a lot of rage towards women because of not being able to get a woman to have sex with him or to go out with him or certainly to marry him.
And this starts at a very young age.
I mean, generally, these people have never been able to get a woman to do any of these things, to be in a romantic relationship.
And so the reason, yes, I actually, you know, stuck my neck out very early on as soon as I heard about the nature of the crimes, that not only that it was a knife, because yes, that's very personal, but also that it was so violent.
And for somebody to have that much rage to kill four people in this kind of a rageful manner was suggestive of an incel, in particular because the four students who he killed fit the description of what incels call Stacy's and Chads.
These are the beautiful people.
Certainly these students were not only beautiful, but they were popular.
They were smart.
They stood out on the campus.
And so these are sort of the quintessential Stacies and a Chad.
They hate Chads too, because, you know, the men who are with these Stacies, because they feel very jealous of them.
They feel really angry that they could be, that these women are giving these men their attention and romantic favors, shall we say.
Okay, so why does Koberger fit this profile specifically outside of the nature of the weapon and the severity of the killings?
Well, then as we have come to learn more about Koberger, you know, he does fit the profile.
For one thing, you know, as it said in the affidavit, they have tracked him stalking these people, you know, both with his phone, his cell phone that was pinging in areas that they were in, and then also with his car being seen on video going around his house.
And, you know, this is really the most recent bit of news about this.
There's something really interesting about and frustrating about this crime.
One, you know, we've heard a lot of back and forth from the police.
You know, they would say one thing like, oh, like it was targeted to a person.
And then they would say, no, well, we don't know if it's targeted to a person, but it might be targeted to the house.
And then there were just all these back and forth kinds of statements that they were putting out.
And more recently, I wonder if you saw this.
Well, you probably know that Kaylee's father has said for quite some time that she told him that she had a stalker.
And in fact, there was a man in the town who managed a vape store who reported to the media that when these friends came into his store, they told him that they walked behind her because she has a stalker.
And then, so, okay, and then they arrested Brian Koberger.
And when they did, Kaylee's father had this expression on his face.
You know, it was like a sort of a combination of an aha moment and a deer caught in headlights because he recognized some link between Kaylee and Brian Koberger.
And then since then, that was a few days ago.
And then since then, both he and particularly the family lawyer, Kaylee's family's lawyer, has been saying that, oh no, there is no connection.
We don't know, there's no connection to any of the four, or the six, perhaps even, certainly not to Kaylee.
And so, no, that's all wrong.
Well, you know, really?
If you saw Kaylee's father, his expression and his, and he even said, you know, I know the link, but I'm not going to say more now.
Now, I didn't make this.
I don't know if you've seen or heard any of this.
I didn't make this stuff up.
Have you by any chance seen or heard any of that?
Well, I did know about the stalker 100% and about what was going on there, but not about the father being, you know, connecting all of that together, which is partially why I'm having you on yourself.
And it does, though.
I do want to ask this, though, as we continue on.
So then, you know, you said the stalking, et cetera.
Are these just like behaviors that are linked to incel type individuals?
Or is it like anything about the character or the suspect profile that we're talking about here?
I guess he's a suspect now, specifically that genuinely says, hey, this guy is an incel.
He's antagonistic towards Estasy's, towards the Chads.
Like, where are we drawing that?
Because I'm not an investigator and I haven't been able to find those conclusions myself.
Well, you know, yes, actually, something just came out last night.
I was on court TV and one of the people who are, someone who's a reporter in Idaho who's been investigating this, found out that in fact there is at least one connection, a significant connection, and that is that Kaylee was at a restaurant or a bar called the Coog on her birthday, which was in June.
And the pings and or the car started being noticed, recorded as evidence starting in June.
So that is one, you know, that's one, I think that's a very significant piece of evidence.
Now, as far as what you're saying, like how, well, Brian Koberger's beginnings as an incel started before he went to Washington.
In fact, it turns out that, you know, people in his school have been talking.
Some of the schoolmates have been talking.
And when he was in high school and he was overweight and he was kind of nerdy, apparently the girls in high school were bullying him to the point that they were throwing things at him.
And it certainly doesn't seem like it got any better because more recently in his hometown of in Pennsylvania, there's a bar there where he is sort of persona non grata because they, whenever he would go into that bar, he would start hassling or harassing the female staff and the female customers, particularly if they rejected him.
So, you know, there is this, seems like this lifelong pattern of rejection from women.
And also in his class in Washington State University, where he was studying criminology, some of his friends there said that he would always be particularly condescending and irritating and harassing to the point that you can as a, you know, to not be thrown out of class to the female students.
Like he would be fine with the male students whenever they would say something in class, for example.
But whenever it was a woman, he would just harass them.
So there are these characteristics, you know, of an incel.
Interestingly, the incels, you know, there's an online community of incels, lots of chat rooms and so on for incels.
I don't have any evidence that he was necessarily in any of these.
We don't know that yet.
But what I do know is that the incels have started a campaign free Brian Koberger.
So the incels recognize him as an incel.
And another thing, he on, you know, you may have heard that he it's he is suspected to be the poster on a Facebook, you know, a Facebook group.
There was a poster that called themselves Papa Roger.
Now, Elliot Roger is the number one incel.
He is the most famous, the most revered by other incels.
He is the incel who killed people at UC Santa Barbara in 2014.
He, you know, he wrote a manifesto.
There's no question that he is an incel.
And he is considered still, so to speak, the papa of the incels, the most notorious, the most, he killed seven people.
He killed himself after he went on this spree using a knife and a gun and his car, ramming the people with his car.
And he talked in his manifesto, you know, he is like a perfect description of an incel where he talks about, you know, all the pain that he was in because women, since he started trying to date women, women have always been rejecting him and they've been so mean.
And, you know, he goes on and on about that.
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