Church of Satan Demands Texas Baby Blood | Guest: Sydney Watson | Ep 186
The church of Satan has now been added to the list of people trying to fight Texas for the right to innocent baby blood. After Texas passed the heartbeat bill, the libs have been trying to fight for abortion through satanism, protest and ... abstinence? Yeah, we didn’t believe it at first either, but every time we think we’ve reached peak insanity, it somehow gets crazier.
let's get into this speaking of satanic people if you can go to my screen here savannah brian stelter from cnn is back at it again with his egg-shaped head and his potato personality He's back in the news.
Not only does he make the news, he's back in the news saying an unvaccinated minority that doesn't watch the news or trust the news is putting the vaccinated majority at undue risk.
There is no way around that reality.
Now, it comes as to no surprise because Brian Stelter is the champion of health and of peak male performance.
And you know, I have to feel like this.
Some people wonder, you know what I mean?
We don't like to talk a lot about our own personal sexualities.
This is making me feel a little gay because he's attractive.
This is exactly the kind of person I want to be taking advice from for what I put in my body.
We know there's a lot of things he probably likes to put into his.
To talk about this and a lot more, I have brought the lovely and wonderful Sidney Watson of the creatively named channel Sidney Watson back on the show.
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So I know Brian Stelter.
I just have to bring this up.
I am having so much fun.
Can we go to the screen?
This is Brian Stelter, 25 booster shots in.
The year is 20.
This is Brian Stelter in two years.
The year is 2023.
You have 25 booster shots.
You're taking your twice daily pill, which Pfizer's developing.
So, like, a good thing is, is what's the difference between this show and our show at night?
Is that an important thing is that, as Savannah said, she always tries to get me to read hard news and we just end up laughing at people for like an hour.
But this being said, I mean, like, I think that people need to realize the new show will be a mashup of you being your regular, ridiculous Brian Stelter self and my overly serious, ha ha, this I'm going to talk to myself in my own videos.
Sydney, do you know what this thing is that you inject into your eyeballs and then it makes your head look like scrump and then here we are just being one giant?
Because no, because I was doing this with my brother and then he got like possessed and started convulsing and then I touched him and like a spirit left his body and entered mine and I felt like I was falling for a thousand years in a dark hole and then it left my body.
Yeah, like I was like, I thought I was gone forever.
I thought I had left my body.
I felt like I lost control of my body and I left my mind.
I want to make the point here though that I don't disbelieve what you're saying in the sense that I think the spirit thing is such an interesting discussion.
Christian right and everything they've been saying for years is now coming to fruition where they're like, it's a satanic ritual.
And everyone's like, no, it's not.
It's healthcare.
And then listen to this.
As pro-choice and reproductive health groups are scrambling to make sense of Texas's new near-total abortion ban, it's like, I can't make sense of this.
It's very simple, guys.
Very simple.
We're a state that doesn't believe abortion is a human right and we think it's murder.
And there are some states that don't believe that.
See, and I think another thing that woke up a lot of people too is when Ralph Northam came out and basically said that you could potentially kill a child that has been born after nine months.
As pro-choice and reproductive health groups are scrambling to understand what that went into effect, it appears this efforts to skirt the law are getting an unexpected boost from one organization in particular, the Satanic Temple.
The Supreme Court on Wednesday night allowed the state to implement a ban on the procedures after six weeks before most women know they are pregnant with no carve-outs for rape or incest until it is blocked or overturned.
The law effectively nullifies the landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, which establishes abortion as a constitutional right in Texas.
Enter the Satanic Temple.
The non-theistic organization, which is headquartered in Salem, Massachusetts, of course, joined the legal fray this week by sending a letter to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration demanding access to abortion pills for its members.
The group has established an abortion ritual and is attempting to use the Regional Freedom Restoration Act, which was created to allow Native Americans access to peyote for religious rituals, to argue that its members should be allowed access to abortion drugs like Misoprostol.
I think I'm saying that wrong.
I always say these drugs wrong.
Yeah, that's usually because the names are pretty bad with these things for religious purposes.
Okay, so here's the interesting thing.
So number one, we are now in 2021.
If this didn't shake your mind, listen to me.
I'm telling you, abortion is murder.
And that's why Satanists who believe in self and the value of oneself, they don't believe, they believe that your sexual freedom is more valuable.
But like, my point is, but look at this: go to my screen.
They're saying, because they say, like, oh, because we want abortions to be safe and legal, rare, and legal.
But the problem with the abortion thing is, is this says, you know, from CNS News that abortion clinic rushed to complete 67 abortions in 17 hours before Texas Heartbeat Bill Law took an effect.
A single doctor at Texas abortion clinic performed 67 abortions in 17 hours before the state's heartbeat law went into effect on Wednesday.
And so what's crazy is that I don't think this was 67 people who were raped or were raped by like their father or something.
I think these are just people, as we're seeing, who are using abortion as birth control.
And objectively, that is not only destructive to your body, but you're murdering children just because you want someone to nut in you and you can't like, what is this with people getting pregnant all the time?
Yeah, and that's objective stance, not only of the church, but also just as a science.
That I don't believe, I mean, there's no other place that you can demarcate the difference of when there's fusion and you begin to create this zygote and you have this fusion of the egg and the sperm.
I think that porn has destroyed an entire generation of people or maybe several generations of people.
And I think that that's like a whole conversation I would actually love to have on our show because I think that that's such an interesting discussion.
I mean, do you know that they tried to do a study on men who hadn't looked at porn through random sampling and they had to cancel the study because they couldn't find a man who hadn't looked at porn?
It's so weird because I think like when I think about this specific topic, and sorry to like TMI everybody, I never was actually exposed to porn properly until I was in my 20s.
Never watched it as a teenager, never had any exposure.
And I think that's why a lot of the things that I'm exposed to as an adult completely trip me out.
Yeah, I mean, look, with images like this circulating online, go back to my screen.
God knows how we don't all just get tempted all the time.
But no, but I mean, I mean, realistically speaking, I think that I didn't realize the adverse, you know, I didn't start seeing the damaging effects of porn until I was like 19.
And then I realized I never had the erectile dysfunction that a lot of guys get because I didn't have that extreme of an addiction.
But I was going, huh, this is actually weird because it makes me less happy with my partner per se.
And I can like now I know what a million and one people are.
And I felt depressed.
And you would, you know, without semen retention, you can end up getting, you feel like sort of foggy.
It's funny that you bring this up because like with the extremism that comes with watching porn, like the way that it eventuates, I suppose.
Of someone very, very close to me, it's interesting.
He and I have been friends for years and years and years.
And we had this conversation not too long ago where he was sort of lamenting some issues that he was having with a partner of his, yada yada, in the sense that, you know, things weren't operating as they should.
And I said, well, did you ever consider that it's because you, in fact, watch far too much porn and this woman in the situation is not mimicking what you are used to.
And it was funny because initially he got really defensive.
And then I think he thought about it.
And perhaps, because you know, this is, this is someone who actually works in the scientific field.
I think what he did was then he went and looked into it a little bit and then he came back a couple months, well, a couple weeks later and he said, I have definitely drastically reduced how much I intake because I think that you were right.
And I'm going, well, yeah, because dude, you've got this like lovely girl that you're dating who's a wonderful woman who wants to do normal, normal, quote unquote, normal stuff, doesn't want the double penetration.
She's not about that life.
And you're over here watching people pee on people and spit in each other's mouths.
I mean, I think that there's a big disparity there between what she can give you.
On a serious note, I know people who watch this sort of thing, who enjoy this sort of thing.
And again, it's like you say, you're not kink shaming, but I do think that there's something quite strange about filming that, participating, and then putting it on the internet, you know?
For people who aren't watching, I mean, if you're our blind viewers and you're listening, obviously you don't see that we keep flashing pictures of Brian Stelter on the screen.
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So obviously, we're talking about the satanic thing.
They've taken this over.
We're talking about this.
And what's interesting is that like Bette Midler is talking and she goes, Here's what we should protest to do.
I suggest that all women refuse to have sex with men until they are guaranteed the right to choose by Congress.
Literally, her response to the abortion ban is to side with the conservatives' view for society, which is that women would not be having extramarital or premarital sex.
She's coming in hot, promoting abstinence as a punishment for the abortion law.
And I know that like this, everyone has a different view.
People always assume that I'm super conservative because I work at the Blaze.
I don't, if you don't watch this show regularly, I don't identify as conservative.
Just for giggles, I call myself a conservative, a California conservative.
That if you want abortion laws to be what you want, then obviously, maybe you should also be promoting the fact that people should not participate in unsafe sex.
And because also too, like America, in America, STDs are so rampant.
I don't think people realize how common chlamydia is, for example.
So firstly, you know, wrap it up a little bit.
But also, I mean, yeah.
One of my friends, one of my friends, only if you're sticking it in your butt.
One of my friends has this theory, not a theory, but the way that he sort of participates in having sexual relations with women.
And when he told me this, I thought it actually, you know, if you're going to do it, maybe participate in the way that my mate does it, which he said that he will not have sex with a girl unless he is prepared to have a kid with her.
Meaning that unless he wants to see that woman every single day for the rest of his life, do not have sex with her.
And that's basically the way he goes about things.
So if he doesn't like you enough, he's not going to do it.
Now, I think the problem is that a lot of men, not just men, women do it too.
Casual sex has destroyed an entire generation of people.
Same with porn.
And the problem is that people think that there's this like quick, easy solution in the form of, you know, terminating a pregnancy when in reality, that should never be on the table.
But this is, well, yeah, I mean, and I have very strong feelings about birth control because, again, TMI, I guess this is the episode that Sydney gives a lot of information about herself.
I came off of birth control a couple years ago because it made me crazy.
I'm very glad because obviously, you know, and not that I want to get into this too deeply, but I am happy because I think that that's something that, you know, would really like to do with a husband and have like little baby tiny Sydney Viking humans.
But, you know, birth control does make you crazy, but the problem is that I wish on some level, no, on every level, that either a doctor or in school, someone had told me all the information pertaining to getting pregnant and all these sort of things and the ways, the alternatives to birth control, because they don't offer that to you.
And so you think that the only way that you can potentially stop yourself from getting pregnant is using condoms, which are great, just by the way.
Going on birth control, which I am not such a fan of.
So listen, so this is something really interesting because so I've been exploring other ideas that are not traditionally my own.
And people may notice that my brain has been developing and thinking and my stances on things have changed because it's this crazy thing where you don't have, you don't owe anybody anything to believe anything and you can always explore your ideas and you should never just join one group and hail to one leader.
Always be trying to refine your thoughts and explore new ideas and understand the truth more holistically, and I realize that you know when we talk about this idea, John is really big in this idea that uh Democ, like democracy, is gay, or I think.
What does he say?
Democracy's cringe, or something like I don't know um, but he has this idea and a lot of people hold this idea right and I there's this whole side of the right wing about that.
They hate the industrial revolution, and so i've been kind of studying their thoughts and their thinking, and One thing that kind of came to my mind that they didn't say directly is that their conclusion, of course, is that the elites, like this oligarchy that runs things, eventually have no allegiance to the country.
They just look at the country as a financial output to make them rich.
And they only have allegiance to themselves and the other elites to keep that power.
And they will make decisions that will hurt the country for the sake of wealth.
Having women in the workforce, considering the fact that at its height, like only about 4% of women in a lot of states and territories really wanted to go to work, going women, putting women to work does nothing to help the culture of our country, the society of our country, but it does create a larger economy and a greater economic output, which then lines their pockets.
But it doesn't make people better.
It doesn't make people happier.
Again, I said there's a difference with letting some women work that want to work or that need to work because they're in a position where they have to.
Their husband leaves them, their husband dies, etc.
I get it.
I understand.
There's a lot of great single moms out there that are desperate and they're doing their best.
So I'm not shaming them.
But I think most women don't run a work and they would rather not be the provider, even if they ran an Etsy shop.
They don't want to be the main provider.
You even want to marry an oil baron.
So there's that.
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But what I mean is that I realize the push for women to work was oil baron because I want a lovely house.
I think that, yeah, I agree and disagree with you here because I think that the I think that the feminist movement in the 1960s is a little and 70s is a little more complicated than people make it out to be.
So I think that the birth control thing and the abortion thing.
And funnily enough, people don't realize this.
The abortion on demand thing was actually pushed predominantly by two men.
So that's an interesting thing because I started researching this for a video recently and then actually didn't make the video that I planned to make.
But anyway, that's a whole other aside.
But I think it's a little more complicated than what people understand because I think it tied into the fact that women were getting trapped in these marriages where they were being abused or whatever and they couldn't get out.
They felt like their only option, you know, was to basically stick it out in these situations that they didn't want to be in.
They felt like marriage is being forced upon them.
They felt like having children that they didn't want to have was a thing.
And it's not to say that I'm defending the feminist movement in any capacity.
I just think that there's a lot of factors that went into the birth control thing.
I would, I mean, being a woman that was on birth control for-the reason why they push it, right?
Like it's not just like, again, it's not just like, can women work or can women have access to these things?
It's let's let's say that the best case for a woman is to be independent on birth control, living alone in your little city apartment and working.
Hell no, you're going to be so depressed.
There's like 1% of women who are genuinely going to be happy with that because there are some that are just built like that.
And I understand, just like there are some very feminine guys that, you know, literally on a rare occasion might work better at home than in the workplace.
But that's not, that's not what's healthy for a society.
Again, I think that the origins of it, and it's the same with everything.
You know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
So the feminist movement of the 1960s and 70s might have started off with the idea that they were genuinely liberating women from abusive marriages, from pregnancies that they simply didn't want to have or children that they weren't ready for, et cetera, et cetera.
And we've ended, and I say this talking about birth control specifically.
And it's ended up in this thing where we do have it pushed in schools.
We do have it pushed by doctors.
And we're also not given all the right information.
I don't know if, and I'd be interested to hear in the comments if other women felt this way.
I don't felt like I was properly given all the information that I might have needed to make a better informed decision about whether or not to pump my body full of chemicals for 10 years.
I was just told that I was told by a doctor to go get it when I was younger.
Like go get one of these.
And I didn't, well, there's no information.
Just go get this.
And the more I've read about Plan B and what it is and actually understanding and looking at it, I'm going, that actually, even then, I still probably wouldn't have gotten it if I knew what it was.
Yeah, of course, it doesn't always work, but I'm just saying at the same time, things are so backwards that look at this.
But dude, it just literally, I just want, it just pumps your body full of progesterone and stops you from, it just basically makes you not produce or not release an egg when you normally would.
Birth control is an interesting, interesting thing.
I mean, again, I think this, the origin, the origin of a lot of this is the fact that we made sex super accessible and didn't give people the proper information to not participate in.
And you're just like, Sydney, we have, you know, this is, you've opened a can of worms on this topic because I have a lot of feelings, as you can tell.
So that's why it's, but it is, even with the church.
And what I'm looking at here is because of what it does with preventing ovulation and what's happening with possibly preventing fertilization and getting in the way of the actual contraceptive that it can be considered that and it could cause problems with that.
So that's why the church does have it banned.
I actually have read about this many times.
You're not supposed to use this.
Catholics definitely aren't supposed to use this.
So that's why I'm saying that's where I'm not, so I don't confuse the audience.
Yes, it is not actually causing abortion.
And I didn't think it did, but it could cause and it can cause complications because sometimes when you've taken things, you never know what's going to really happen.
Well, and it could cause problems with them actually meeting.
But that's also, but then here's the thing, right, about Plan B, people don't realize is because you're pumping your body full of a new chemical, a new hormone all of a sudden.
A lot of women will bleed, just bleed for like seven days straight, sometimes a month.
Some women don't have any symptoms.
And I think that that's great for them.
But a lot of women, your typical woman, will just bleed after taking Plan B.
I know women that have taken it who've had like really kind of crappy experiences on it.
Because I did learn in school this was an abortive can and it is, it does say here according to this study that it can be categorized as that simply because of what it can do.
Can be and sometimes is it's.
Saying here, according to this, this uh this, this uh institute, that it can be, and that's what I was taught too.
That that's what it was.
That's why it shocked me when I was learning in school and I'll go, I remember, because I just knew to take plan B and give it to some somebody, and it wasn't even like for my girlfriend, it was for somebody else that needed me to buy it, because you'd be 18 to buy it or whatever.
And so I remember, like I was, you know, shocked to realize that I might have done something to someone that I didn't want to do, because even when I didn't believe in God, I never wanted to have an abortion.
I don't know why people think that it's like only Christians that are against abortions, but when I wasn't a Christian I was like that's effed, I'm not gonna do that.
Yeah, I mean again, I feel like I don't think plan B, I think it's.
I actually think it's really, really disingenuous and kind of crappy for religious institutions to say that it does somehow terminate a pregnancy, because it doesn't.
It just doesn't.
It just stops a sperm and an egg.
It doesn't even stop a sperm and an egg meeting, it just stops you really from releasing your egg when you normally would.
Okay, we're gonna, we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna, we're gonna link this in the description, actually this article, and you guys let us know in the comments whether, when you read the studies and you can link other studies as well.
Yeah, if you think it is people, I don't mind, because we need to figure this out.
I'm, and I gotta know.
Is plan b just emergency contraceptive or is it abort for kids?
I mean, now that people know that i'm uh, one of those dirty agnostic, atheisty people um, I do get a little bit bothered when I think, I think that there is some misinformation that comes out of uh, religious websites and things.
In the same way that obviously sometimes people misuse science.
I think that this is the same sort of thing, where and this is the problem, Elijah is because there's so many conflicting interests when it comes to reproduction and sex and birth control and blah, that people who have particular bents and leanings towards this sort of thing will mislead people in order to achieve that the ends that they want.
Now, you said this before in terms of people pushing birth control to achieve the ends.
I just got really confused because okay, I got really confused because I thought I knew one thing about plan b, but I think we both know two sides of plan b yeah, and i'm also wondering too if, kind of like with the shot uh, covet shot, I wonder if there's different brands yeah, and there's different strengths, different medications that are can be categorized as plan b.
So maybe, depending on which one you use it could be different as well.
There's against contraceptives.
I don't like them personally.
I don't think they're good for society.
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I think people need to stop having sexual relations.
Yeah, but that's not the world that we live in and I you know it's funny your wife actually sent me this thing the other day and she said, Sydney, I think you'll really enjoy this, because I love these conversations about, you know, casual dating and casual sex and all this sort of stuff, because I love looking at the mechanisms and how it has, in fact, in my opinion, sort of messed up society in a lot of ways.
And, you know, as a teenager not even as As a teenager, because I wasn't participating it, I didn't really kiss a boy until I was 16, etc., because I was a weirdo and boys didn't like me.
But you know, in my early 20s, I kind of acted in a way that I'm not super proud of, not super unproud of it, but not proud of it by any stretch of the imagination.
It wasn't until I got older that I realized, oh, holy crap, the casual dating, the casual sex thing, not good, really bad, in fact, very bad for your soul.
I don't think you have to be religious to think that it might be a little bit bad for your soul.
I think it takes out chunks of you and you know, kind of sell them to whoever you're involving yourself with in like a non-meaningful way.
And so, I think it's interesting too that your wife sent me this thing, a podcast.
She basically, and the title of it effectively was, you know, how casual dating and casual sex has ruined men.
And I think that's such an interesting thing because when we have these conversations, they're never holistic.
And I think that if we looked at it from the perspective of how is birth control, how is casual sex, how is not, you know, basically pushing for abstinence, I suppose.
I know that that's not realistic push for abstinence, but I think that that might help society somewhat.
When we talk about the law that was passed in Texas, we know that anti-choice bills are not about being pro-life.
Because if they were about being pro-life, then the Republican Party would support, frankly, an agenda that helps guarantee health care, that helps ensure that people who do give birth that don't have the resources to care for a child can have that care for a child.
So we know that none of this is about life.
None of this is about supporting life.
What this is about is controlling women's bodies and controlling people who are not cisgender men.
This is about making sure that someone like me as a woman or any menstruating person in this country cannot make decisions.
We're going to get into this in a second because this actually does get pretty crazy here.
Before going further, though, I'd let you know I am so stoked because Texas, not only, as I mentioned earlier, did the abortion reversal, which is I think is a good thing.
Not everyone agrees with me, especially the Church of Satan.
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And so on the other end, I do want to point out the hypocrisy, a couple things here is that people are saying, okay, this, people are mad that Pete Buttigig, and I assume that's his husband.
And I want to remind you that Pete Buttigig's initials are PP Butt.
Here's a picture of me and my husband on a bed holding two bibbers after they just maybe they've literally like maybe they've just been popped out of the womb and they just happen to be sitting in a hospital.
So, you know, Pete Buddhaj said, Chastin and I are beyond thankful for all the kind wishes since first sharing the news that we're becoming parents.
We are delighted to welcome Penelope Rose and Joseph August Buddhajig to our family.
I'm assuming Penelope Rose Buddhaj is also her last name.
But what's interesting is that you get to this argument, actually, then this is the wholeness of society, is that people are saying, well, you can't also lambast the abortion law.
I mean, sorry, support the abortion law while also lambasting them for adopting a kid because all you're saying is that people should want to give up their kids.
This brings up the argument about what people want for society and whether people want gay couples to adopt.
And if we had a whole society, and I think what it comes down to is not that this is just like people are hypocritical or what they're trying to argue with, but our society is very broken.
And our society is broken sexually.
And it's very confusing.
And even I get confused because it's like, well, I don't like, I don't understand this whole thing of gay couples raising kids and its effect on their health.
But also at the same time, I don't want people to abort kids either.
And it's hard for me to come to conclusions on these things because it looks like our society is just broken and there's not an easy answer to this kind of stuff.
And I do want to take a harder stance and I do want to, you know, take that traditional, just based stance on things.
But I'm trying to figure this stuff out too because I'm going, I don't know what to do with this because I don't, you're telling me you'd rather have these kids aborted than be in the custody of these parents.
Well, you might say it's less ideal and you might not believe a gay marriage is good.
You might not want kids with the gay couple.
That's fair too.
You can think whatever the hell you want.
And it's also not biblical traditionally.
But then it's like, well, would you rather have these kids killed?
And that's where I come to the hard road of where people both want abortion banned and then are mad that these people adopted these kids.
It gets confusing to me and it's fair.
I'm allowed to be confused at these kinds of things.
Yeah, I think that I get the desire to want to be base, but I also think that a hardline approach to everything misses the point that life is kind of nuanced and that everything is really context dependent.
And so when it comes to, I have some pretty strong opinions towards like IVF, for example.
I do actually have some opinions towards the adoption of children into non-traditional families, mom and dad.
I definitely have some opinions there that are pretty much backed up by stats, I would say.
And it's interesting because when it comes to the abortion conversation, I tweeted this the other day and people got really mad at me and then they were like, I said, if we're going to have the, basically, if we're going to be passing legislation that prohibits abortion or that makes abortion harder to access, then we must, in fact, be fixing the foster and adoption systems.
Because if, because the result, usually the result of these abortion laws is that you have more children who are going to homes where they're not wanted.
That is a fact.
And if you're going to have more children that are not wanted by their parents or are going into homes of parents that are ill-equipped to basically have the children, then you actually have to fix the systems that will take those children on.
I don't think that that is a crazy stance to take.
But the thing is that just like you said, you can't, it's really weird to me how people are so cognitively, they have cognitive dissonance to such a degree that they can't understand that, yeah, if you're going to have more babies, they need somewhere to go.
You can't just shove them into the foster system and be like, well, enjoy the sexual assault you're going to experience for the next 18 years.