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Jan. 6, 2021 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Fighting Fasc*sm With Fasc*sm | Ep 32

Domestic terror*st groups like ANT*FA are hypocrites in that they continue to use the same shameful tactics to suppress their enemies that they claim to be fighting against. Fleccas Talks joins me at the University of Oregon to expose the truth about these lost and misguided souls.

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We're just doing what we've been doing for many years.
We're fighting commies, right?
That's what we're doing.
We are fighting commis.
This has been for decades.
We are trying to stop communism and communists from trying to take over our country, remove our capitalistic system, which is helping us thrive and emerge, where any minority can come, despite what the popular rhetoric is.
If this is such a terrible country that minorities can't survive in, why do they all want to keep coming here?
How many of you guys here actually use the word fascist on a regular basis towards people?
Anybody here?
It's a common thing.
Okay, how many of you guys know people out there that use the word fascist regularly?
You know, it's like you take a wrong turn, like, mother fascist, you know.
You know, that's the people of the day.
So, so we're going to get into this idea of fascism, and I want to bring this down to you.
So, you guys live in Oregon, a little too close to Portland for my liking.
Yes, I know.
But a lot of you guys also live here in Eugene, yeah?
Some of you guys are students.
Okay, Eugene isn't exactly the most conservative-friendly environment.
I don't know if you know that.
Some of you are like, yeah, I don't see a ton of MAGA hats here tonight.
I don't know if you got a lot of you guys just kept yours in your bag unless you wore it all the way here, or if it'd be nice in your class to pop that on.
But I know that this is not the exact friendly or tolerant place that it's made to be.
And we know that not only from continuous national headlines out of Portland of the most insane skirmishes, brawls, melees that are going on all the time, but also just the rhetoric of what happens, for instance, which we'll get into later, just last night trying to do a conservative event with an immigrant, with a man of color immigrant.
Is he Indian?
An Indian immigrant and a gay man and a gay Asian.
And they said, you bigot, tolerant, intolerant white supremacists.
And I go, it's the least white supremacist group I've ever seen.
I mean, literally, Hitler would be very displeased with them if he realized the way they carried on his legacy was by bringing in more minorities and homosexuals.
It's like very, very interesting.
But we'll get to that.
But I want to talk about this idea with the anti-fascism and this fascist idea.
And it's really important, not because I want to focus on Antifa tonight, because Antifa is really not scary.
Unfortunately, you might hurt them more by blocking their attacks than they might actually inflict damage on you by hitting you.
I'm telling you this.
It's like a 72-year-old alcoholic woman.
They're frail.
I don't know what they're eating, but it's definitely not meat.
And I'm not joking.
They're very small.
And the thing is, is that when we get into this, though, the importance is, is why are we talking about Antifa?
And the reason why is because Antifa, just like, and we'll talk about this, abortion, other things, is an argument that people use to make us look bad.
Why?
Because Antifa stands for what?
Or what is it short for?
Antifascist.
Anti-fascist.
Okay, so these anti-fascist groups are against fascism, which means that if you don't support them, what are you for?
Fascism, right?
Right, but here's a funny thing, and we're going to get into a little bit of, this is the boring stuff up front, don't worry, the rest of this isn't going to be as boring as this.
But I want to talk to you about Antifa so we realize how much they're deceiving the public, even with the support of politicians, by the way, to try to frame an argument to make us look bad when really they're actually quite evil.
And we'll talk about this.
So anti-fascista, right?
Antifascista action.
I'm not going to say it in a German accent.
This is a group, mainly emergent, mainly strong, 1932, 1933.
And we always hear this.
In the news, they never call him Antifa, right?
Never call him Antifa.
They're always anti-fascists.
Because the media is trying to brainwash people into thinking that if you're not for the anti-fascist, then you are supporting a fascist government.
But let's look and uncover the truth of what anti-fascista really is.
Anti-fascista is a branch or was a group of the KPD, the Communist Party of Germany.
They wanted to take down the Liberal Party that was currently in power in Germany.
By the way, and I want to point this out, oftentimes working in conjunction with the Nazi Party to attack the Democrat Socialist Party, not the Democrat Socialist Nazi Party, but the other one.
By the way, anti-fascists worked with Nazis in 1932 and 1933.
So next time someone talks to you about them, say, oh, those guys that used to work with the Nazis, that's a really good line.
But the point is, what were they?
They weren't actually an anti-fascist group in the terms of like just some good church-going folk who just didn't want Hitler to come to power.
They were actually Stalinists.
They actually believed in not only in Stalinism, but in Stalinist communism.
Which, by the way, was the ideology of using force and action to purge the classes of people that you felt were a threat to a revolution.
They were a militant group that promoted violence and used violence often, having massive and internal clashes inside the streets of Germany, which for all of history was the problem, trying to take down the Weimar ruling class.
And they consistently and constantly espoused and believed in the same ideologies that killed over 50 million people just in their region alone and eastern regions of Europe and Asia in the 20th century, not to mention South Asia and others, as the numbers get much higher.
So this group of people is actually, while fighting a regime and an ideology responsible for more than 30 million deaths, is actually trying to replace it with an ideology and a regime that is responsible for more than three times or four times as many deaths.
So they're not exactly good guys, right?
It's not exactly a good person.
It's like two cartels fighting each other in northern Mexico today.
It's like, oh, a cartel is wiped out today.
And it's like, by who?
By El Chapo's son.
And you're like, well, that's not exactly as good as maybe the Mexican government doing their job and actually taking control of their country.
Who knows what's going to happen there?
But as we get into this, this group, as it moved on and it developed, rooted and seated in violence, rooted and seated in communism, actually believed, and this is what's crazy, that the fascism that they were fighting was what?
This is where we get really confused.
When we think about textbook fascism, when we think about what it means to fight a fascist, what do we think of?
We think of Nazis usually, right?
That's what they always talk about.
We've got to fight Nazis.
But do you know the actual anti-fascista regiment believes that the ultimate development of capitalism is fascism?
So they're actually an anti-capitalist organization.
And you're going to find this as we confronted them last night.
And we'll talk about this a little later too as well.
They're not actually fighting against a regime power or against something.
They're fighting against capitalism, which at itself is the very nature of our country.
And so this is really interesting.
They are actually pro-communists, fighting capitalism, and believing fascism is the end of it or the apex.
And they are using fascism to talk about capitalism.
And you can fact-check me on this a million times, this is true.
And this is where the argument comes in in society, and you realize where the far left has encroached so far into our, not only into our highest places of education, which are basically just communist propaganda houses.
They love communism.
They'll flirt with it, they'll kiss it, make out with it, but they're just sort of making love to it.
If you would let them, though, they would go there.
But it's also our democratically elected leaders as well, which have these nice names, Democrat Socialists.
You're like, oh, very nice.
That sounds very similar to something else I know of.
But this argument is really about whether we should replace the American system, the American way, with a left-centric communist way that has a people's party that doesn't use basically return and freedom and free commerce, but has another system.
But they've lied to us to make us think that if we don't side with them, that we are actually siding with Hitler himself.
And they do this with a lot of other arguments, and some might be a little more familiar with you.
Yep.
Wow.
Very nice, Elijah.
That was a good run.
So Elijah touched on the tactics a little bit, kind of the framing of the issues.
And I think that's the most important part when it comes to like what can I give you guys as advice and how to deal with stuff like this.
The framing of the issues, you touched on it with anti-fascist, where does that make everyone else fascist?
Like they use that technique in a grand scale across the board.
We see it with the wall.
Like right now, everyone's talking about how the wall is racist.
And if you want to have a debate about the wall or immigration reform, you end up having to debate: is Donald Trump a racist man or is he not?
That becomes the debate every time.
And in reality, we're ignoring the facts of what's going on at the southern border.
How many people are coming across, the drugs that are coming across, sex trafficking, all these horrible things?
And we end up talking about, like, oh, Donald Trump's not racist to immigrants.
He married an immigrant.
Like, we're stuck in these surface-level debates.
Same with abortion.
You know, it's a woman's right to choose.
So if you are pro-life, that means you're against women in a way.
So they kind of backdoor people into these arguments by just really drawing, making a broad generalization of what they stand for.
And they basically lie.
So Antifa, for example, anti-fascist.
If you support that, you're like, yeah, I'm anti-fascist.
They're kind of like stringing along people who are in the middle who aren't really paying attention and getting them to side with them.
Like the masses are siding with Antifa because they think, oh, yeah, I'm not fascist, so I'm with these guys.
And that's what we see in every aspect of our lives.
We see it through education, through Hollywood, celebrities.
Everyone's just reiterating the same message of the far progressive left.
But in reality, the far progressive left isn't as big as we think.
Their voice is just the loudest.
And that's kind of with my channel, what I've been trying to show.
It's like if you're a right-leaning person and you watch my channel, maybe it's entertaining, maybe you learn something new, maybe you just think it's funny and send it to your friends.
If you're on the far left, it's kind of embarrassing.
It's kind of like, ugh, like these people aren't doing a great job, you know, vocalizing what they want to say.
But if you're apolitical in the middle, you're probably going to watch and say, you know, I don't follow politics, but I'm not that Donald Trump is worse than Hitler girl.
That seems ridiculous.
So I think the name of the game when it comes to this is obviously reframing the issues in a way we're actually talking about the issues, but also it's going to be not trying to convince the far left to go right.
It's going to be trying to convince apolitical people to get involved for the first time.
And I think that's where we've kind of had our biggest hiccups lately is just being the silent majority.
We're the silent majority, and because of that, we basically forfeited every aspect of our culture.
Abortion, they took it all the way to now, you know, Ralph Northam saying after birth abortions, you know, make the baby comfortable, horrible.
Immigration-wise, we have, you know, close to 30 million people here illegally.
Basically, every issue that the silent majority stayed silent on, we've just forfeited, and the left's taking it as far as they can take it.
So, my thing now going forward, I used to tell people, they would ask, you know, a lot of kids ask, if I'm in a college class, should I write a paper that gets me a good grade, or should I write a paper that's true to my values?
And in the beginning, I used to say, yeah, you know, it depends on the class.
If it's a major class, maybe do it.
If, you know, if it's another class, whatever.
Now I feel like we have to go on offense.
And it has to be, you know, stand up for what you believe in.
And if you do get politically discriminated, there's enough resources out there.
You can contact us really easily.
We can make something go viral.
There's people online you can reach out to.
Turning point has Professor Watch.
PragerU does too.
So there's enough resources out there that if you feel like you're being discriminated because of your political views, you can actually make an example of that professor.
So if that professor gets called out and they get exposed, that professor won't do that again.
And pretty much every professor at the school probably won't do it again either.
And that's what we need to do going forward.
We really have to go on offense.
We can't save the silent majority.
If we're the silent majority, we're going to lose this whole country.
I think we're lucky that in 2016, we didn't lose the whole country to Hillary Clinton and that whole crew, that whole cabal.
So if we really want a chance of fully saving this country, taking it back in the right direction, it's going to be about speaking out, standing up for what you believe in, and positively representing the conservative movement or the right-leaning movement wherever you fall within it.
Because I think their biggest strength right now is they're able to say, oh, Trump supporters, you know, they're all Nazis, they're all racist, they're all whatever.
But the more and more you speak out, you know, if you're one person, you can get called a racist, white supremacist Nazi.
But if you speak out, other people in your class or in your friend circle might feel more comfortable speaking out.
And then eventually those insults and those accusations become empty.
They call Candace Owens a white supremacist.
They call Ben Shapiro a Nazi.
They do all these things that don't make sense.
Once that happens, the people who are watching and kind of just neutrally observing, they're going to want to get involved and it's basically going to activate them in a way.
So that's kind of how I see it.
The framing, we have to fix that.
But going forward, it's going to be about speaking out and kind of standing up for what you believe in.
Right.
Yeah.
And that's kind of interesting you're saying that because I think what happens is a lot of times we lose traction because the arguments are already set up to trap us.
And we have to be really aware of that in conversations, in the media, the entire system.
And I honestly do believe it is a globalist agenda.
You see this common in any powerful Western country.
There's a systematic, regimented attack on the people who live there.
There's trying to remove the culture and any identification of the nation whatsoever.
They try to strip the economic systems that have led to their prosperity.
They try to open up the borders with non-regulated immigration.
They destabilize other countries, which cause turmoil and mass movement of large groups of people with dissimilar cultures.
There's clashes, there's movements, there's chaos, there's polarization, and a country can collapse.
And this isn't a far-left or far-right movement, to be honest.
This is really what it comes down to is we're living in what is a post-Cold War ideology, which is that, you know, with the fall of the Communist Soviet Union, the Soviet Union didn't really fall.
Because although we had the Ming Kremlin and the people that crumbled in the order, what we're seeing still, not only is communism very much alive, but the ideas are very much integrated into our nation.
And these people are not stupid.
But I think it's really important that when we talk about anti-fascist versus fascist, because I'm going to go by their definition, because it's really the definition of communist versus capitalist, we've got to be careful to recognize that.
Because you've got to say, wait, you mean I'm a fascist as in Hitler, or I'm a fascist as in the common term of what that means, which is the end result of capitalism.
And they don't actually believe that we're fascists.
Because you know why they don't actually believe it?
Because there's no evidence, right?
There's no evidence that we're fascists.
There's no regimentation of society.
We're not trying to enforce our ideas and control the press or anything like that.
Like, Donald Trump said it's fake news.
CNN's fake news.
He was trying to shut down the media.
Like, that is...
This...
Okay, first of all, it's not even fake news.
It's not even news, right?
All CNN is talking about Trump's opinion of opinions.
I mean, it's not even actually any facts at this point.
The CEO of CNN has been caught not only just on a hot wire, but on video, even in his regular meetings, just basically directing the entire network to just produce anti-Trump rhetoric, whether there's other stories coming out or not.
I mean, we've already saw, right, with ABC, with Roebuck, right?
She's saying, I had the story on Epstein.
We had a victim.
We had traces.
We had actual evidence that Clinton was a pedophile or at least involved in this pedophile ring and ABC killed it.
But you know what?
ABC was able to run?
What were they able to run?
Someone 40 years ago said, Kevin Not touched my butt at a party.
He's a rapist.
Run it for two straight months.
Never stop.
Protest, right?
But it goes from just being pictures to realizing that there's much more nefarious things going on.
And the reason why we're able to be silent and the reason why we're not speaking up is because we're afraid of being seen as crazy.
But what's happening now is that even with simple meme culture, like, oh, Epstein didn't kill himself.
How many of you guys have gotten beat by a couple of those memes recently or you totally got goofed?
Okay, if you're not familiar with it, it's always like a normal video or picture, like roses are red, violets are blue, and Epstein didn't kill himself.
And you go, ah!
I thought, oh, man, you got me.
So they always get you.
But we've got to make sure just like that can arise, and the conversation is back alive thanks to guerrilla warfare, journalism from Veritas, who's constantly discredited by all mainstream media news outlets.
Why?
Because they actually still do journalism.
And they come out and these things hit national headlines.
The Washington Post is being forced to write about them.
Why?
Because people are forcing the real argument out.
It's not whether or not he hung himself and we lost the videotape and the guards weren't around and his bones were broken and the autopsy said it's more likely a homicide, but you've got to believe this because we've said that he killed himself.
But you know what happens?
Enough people come together and say, hey, this bullshit, we're not taking it anymore.
And we're going to push this out through humor and through natural means to get it out to the public and it gets out.
And the same thing goes with what's going on between the far left and the far right.
If they can basically completely take the death of someone, which by the way, ABC's own anchor, I'm saying, is saying, her words, I am confident that he did not kill himself, right?
One of the main anchors who knew this from early on, I know something else happened.
If they can take that and spin the whole story and silence everything and make it go away to try to protect pedophiles who are in power, imagine what else they're doing out there.
And one of the things that they're doing is to prevent the populace, the people, from actually living according to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the documents that make our country great.
And they disenfranchise us.
And every time you speak out, if they make you seem crazy, that's fine.
Then if I of you are crazy, that's fine.
But when it's millions and millions and millions, and now you have half the population coming together and saying, we are tired of your BS, and we know what's really going on, they can't actually stop that.
And that's why I believe that, although we always know, like he was saying, right, there was this whole Kavanaugh, if you supported Kavanaugh, you didn't believe women, right?
Remember that?
I mean, that was that.
And he talked about the abortion argument.
You know, you're not for women's rights if you're not for abortion.
And they try to make you seem like you're a bigot, anti-female, anti-gay.
Like, it's like if you don't like men pulling their penises out while kids are present at a pride parade, oh, you're an anti-gay bigot.
You know, I thought gay people can do what they want.
I just don't think penises should be out in front of children.
Like, that aren't there, you know what I mean?
Like, they aren't there.
So, you know, and you say this, but they set up the argument to make you not be able to give your voice.
Why?
Because then they'll try to deplatform, they'll try to fire you, try to shame you.
It's public shaming from the most evil intentions.
But with this Antifa group, especially in Portland, it's really important that we bring up the fact that we're just doing what we've been doing for many years.
We're fighting commies, right?
That's what we're doing.
We are fighting commies.
This has been for decades.
We are trying to stop communism and communists from trying to take over our country, remove our capitalistic system, which is helping us thrive and emerge, where any minority can come, despite what the popular rhetoric is.
If this is such a terrible country that minorities can't survive, then why do they all want to keep coming here?
If this is such a terrible place, and we keep saying that minorities are beautiful and wonderful and they add so much to our culture, well, if they can't add anything because there's no upward mobility, then what are you talking about?
Right?
If they can add to our culture and grow, what do you mean by that?
You're meaning that there's this movement that they can come in and build a life together.
Fine, I'll give you that, whatever.
This isn't, I'm not anti-immigrant by any means, but don't lie to me and be you know pro-immigrant and then say this country is a piece of crap.
You know, it's like you're lying then.
You're just lying.
But this goes the same thing with the fascism because the way to deplatform and to allow a person's argument to become nullified is to use a pejorative like fascist.
Because the minute someone hears you're a fascist, well, all your arguments become what?
Of no value.
And so when I say fighting fascism with fascism, we put the quotes on fascism simply because they are basically espousing and living out the very things they claim to be fighting.
They want to take away your free speech.
They don't want you to talk, and they're open about that.
It's in their dogma.
They cover their faces.
They're anonymous.
They don't want any sort of identity.
They all dress the same.
It's regimentation.
They want to instill a society.
And this is why I'm going to say, they want to instill a society that is not only just anti-American, it is un-American.
I'll tell you what, last night we confronted some wonderful Portland anti-fascists.
They are my favorite people.
They smell weird, but they smell weird.
They have crackly voices.
They're like, they're like eternal pubescent teens.
It's beautiful.
And they play instruments, they throw pee, and they're getting potty trained.
It was true, it's good.
At least pee in a bag, they're getting somewhere.
It's better than LA or San Francisco, right?
I mean, if we can get them to do it in a bag, we'd be making progress.
But they had a great, other many great chants, which we'll talk about.
They had a chant actually that we put out there that I'd never heard before.
The Donald Trump Jr. actually was liked and said, Well, I can't believe this basically is they said, No Trump, which we're always aware of that one, no wall, no USA at all.
Yeah, I mean, okay, well, I table for five.
I mean, what do you want me to do?
I mean, okay, thank you for that.
That's a bold statement.
Is what you're seeing is it's really coming out, right?
And last night, for the first time, we debated maybe at least 10 Antifa, which is very hard to do, by the way.
To debate Antifa members, to even talk to them without them screaming in your face, it's very, very difficult.
And the thing is, we talked to them.
Why?
Because I knew that they were about capitalism and I debated them about capitalism.
And one of the boys, after, and I don't, well, this is not a slur.
I just said something, and I said, Oh, you can't say that.
That's homophobic.
So they're making fun of Andy Noah trying to get him.
And the guy said, We are all gay and trans.
I said, Everyone here is homosexual and transgender.
And he goes, Yes.
I said, You said it.
I didn't.
Not that's a negative thing.
I just go, That's crazy, right?
What are the chances of having this many people in one place that all are in the LGBTQ community?
I had no idea.
I learned something new.
But when I asked him, I said, Hey, man, name one country in action today, not a commune, not a random company in the Arizona desert, okay?
What place do your ideas of anti-capitalist ideas work?
And not only that, but what system actually will work better in the world?
Tell me, give me, just give it to me.
He says, Well, Cuba, they got more doctors than anywhere.
I said, Oh, Cuba?
I know a family that came over on a blow-up mattress to Florida to get away from the inundation of doctors, right?
That's what they left from, right?
They're like, oh, there's too many doctors here.
I got to go.
Get in your 1956, you know, your 1956 Soviet car and get to the, you know, I don't know what to even run it on.
But it's like these people are living in a crazy world.
And by debating them, it was crazy that we actually broke ground because we knew their arguments better than they did and could actually educate them.
But last night we had a lot more fun, and I think Austin's going to get into that.
Yeah, last night was one of the better times we've had in a while.
I haven't dealt with full-blown Antifa like that in a few months.
They were full-blown Antifa.
They had really cool costumes.
They were looking for violence too, which is kind of bad.
I've been doing a lot of videos lately, and what's been surprising to me is I can usually find common ground with someone by saying we can both disavow political violence.
There's no place for political violence, right?
And in my last few videos, there's been a few people who are like, well, I don't know, political violence isn't so bad.
Like, it's a pretty useful tool.
You know, it can be used in a good way.
And I kind of realized that these people really think that they're fighting the Nazis.
They really think that they're trying to prevent the next Hitler, which is really scary.
Obviously, it is a small portion of the left.
It's not the full left.
But it is scary to see this type of escalated action coming into our everyday lives.
So that's something that kind of worries me, but keep in mind, it is going to, it's going to, I think, simmer down a little bit once they see the numbers and how much of the right actually exists.
I think the strongest tool the left has and also their weakness is the mainstream media.
That's how they're getting their message out to millions of people.
But it's also kind of their vulnerability in a way.
I kind of mentioned this earlier.
The media lies is what fully woke me up.
Seeing Don Lemon get on camera and say, Trump doesn't want to build, Trump wants to build a wall to keep immigrants out.
And I remember watching it and thinking, like, what immigrants come across the border like in the middle of the night, not through a port of entry?
And that really woke me up.
So I think that's kind of like where we come in.
I think the citizen journalist type of route is really powerful.
People think that the news needs to trickle down through like the million dollar studio and come through to you through the TV.
When in reality, we shoot videos on our phone that end up making it to like Elijah said before, international news.
So the trick the media is playing on us is that they want to create a like a giver of information and a receiver of information relationship.
They want you guys to go to them, look up and say, oh, what's going on?
They're just going to sprinkle it down on you as if it's the truth.
When in reality, because they lie so many times, they have so many vulnerabilities and loose ends.
We can actually expose them.
And when people see the lies on the grand scale, that's what really wakes them up.
So it's all going to be about between now and 2020 is just telling the truth, going out there.
The people want the truth, whether it's underproduced or not.
They don't care if it comes from a cell phone.
They don't care if it's a podcast or just, you know, a Snapchat video.
They just want to see what's really going on.
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