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Jan. 6, 2021 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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The Homeless Poop Wars of Los Angeles | Ep 34

The homeless are weaponizing their diarrhea, and it’s as disgusting as it sounds. Liberty Hangout is canceled for trying to confront Michael Knowles, vegans are suing Burger King, and the ACLU wants you to know that men get pregnant too.

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elijah schaffer
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unidentified
A homeless man dumped a bucket of stuff on your head.
A bucket of his diarrhea.
I didn't want it to be in my mouth, but it was running down my eyes.
elijah schaffer
Welcome back to Slightly Offensive with your favorite gay black woman.
Today we have some interesting stories on the table.
Number one, the homeless people are dumping their diarrhea on the heads of citizens, and citizens and the homeless are fighting each other on the streets of Los Angeles.
It's crazy.
We're also going to talk about how Caitlin Bennett or the Kent State gun girl got canceled by Yaff and Michael Knowles and what are we doing about it?
As well as something absolutely crazy.
You wouldn't believe this.
Vegans are doing insane stuff and they're actually suing Burger King of all places.
and a much more coming up all right today we have two wonderful guests today we have We have Jamie.
Your last name's Joseph?
unidentified
Yeah, Joseph.
elijah schaffer
Gerard Joseph?
What do you mean?
What is your actual last name?
Is it hyphenated?
unidentified
It's Roebuck Joseph.
elijah schaffer
Well, it says Gerard Joseph when you call people.
You called me and it said Gerard Joseph's calling.
I thought it was going to be a man.
unidentified
And what's your address?
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, what's your phone number?
No, so you're the editor-in-chief of Scriber News, which is a new emerging platform.
News, explain me what it is.
unidentified
I don't know.
Yeah, so it's non-partisan news.
And I guess what makes us different is we have the bias technology meter at the bottom of each article so readers can rate what they thought, like the bias of the author.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so it's basically because you always know there's bias, but they can see if it's liberal or conservative bias.
unidentified
It's just to keep us like more accountable on the editorial side of things, be more honest.
elijah schaffer
But is anyone checking to see if people are trolling the articles?
unidentified
Yeah, so sometimes they do.
Like some people who are clearly more right-leaning, like it'll just be like left-leaning for some reason.
So we're going to try and integrate some sort of like fairness, like, you know, have a scriber judgment as well as like the reader.
Cool.
elijah schaffer
Well, that's new.
unidentified
All right.
Yeah.
Awesome.
elijah schaffer
Well, welcome to the show.
We also have Austin Fletcher.
You guys probably mostly know him, host of Fleck Us Talks.
Welcome.
austen fleccas fletcher
Hi, Elijah.
Thanks for having me on.
Always good to see you.
Nice to be here again.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
So, okay, so first of all, we got some crazy stuff going on today.
Like I said, we have absolutely weird stories.
It never gets old, by the way, in America.
But first, I want to give a quick word from our sponsors.
Today, our sponsor is Genesis 950, which of course, you're wearing a, what is that, golf fest or something?
austen fleccas fletcher
It's a cricket sweater.
elijah schaffer
Okay, it's a cricket sweater.
Sorry, I'm not that lame.
But the reality is, is that we get oil stains on our clothes.
We get pet stains.
Maybe even too.
You're sick, it's the flu season.
You know, make it all the way to the restroom.
It's not just the animal that ends up marking the carpet.
But, you know, things happen.
austen fleccas fletcher
Imagine having a kid.
They spilled it.
elijah schaffer
They're speaking on the floor.
When I was a kid, I remember I was sick and I got up and I just pooped in the hallway.
austen fleccas fletcher
Wow.
unidentified
Well, you're not homeless?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, well, okay, we're going to get into pooping on people.
But, you know, things happen.
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Anyway, let's get into the story for today.
So today, I know, I know.
Have you been on a show with ads before?
austen fleccas fletcher
No, I'm just saying, like, if you are like me and you have a lot of stuff piled up of like an oil stain here, a permanent stain here, like a ruined shirt here, you should just get that stuff and put it on everything.
You're back to back to square one.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, exactly.
It actually does work on everything except for your heart.
You have that.
austen fleccas fletcher
I'm not being paid to say that.
That just sounds like a good thing to get.
elijah schaffer
It won't fix a broken marriage either, but other than that, it can fix a lot.
So today's story, by the way, is this new segment called, What the Hell, America?
Because there's a lot of that going on.
And before we get into that, I just want to let you know that right now in Los Angeles, the attacks from homeless on people are becoming an epidemic.
And people are actually getting scared to walk on public roads because of homeless people on you.
We've talked about this before.
austen fleccas fletcher
Oh, yeah.
I've been trying to distance myself from the poop stuff, but here we are again.
Can't avoid it.
Elijah and I were one time coming to the studio and a group of elderly women, like probably 50s and 60s, were like, oh, we're big fans of you guys.
Elijah, you're doing such good work with slightly offensive.
Fuck you and the poop stuff.
And I was like, oh man, I need to kind of like recalibrate a little bit.
But hey, here we are.
If that's what I'm here to talk about, let's talk about it.
elijah schaffer
All right, so we're going to play a clip.
I'm warning you for if you're a young child or if you're just a normal person who lives in a civilized world, this may be graphic.
unidentified
Very disgusting.
A homeless man dumped a bucket of stuff on your head.
A bucket of his diarrhea.
I didn't want it to be in my mouth, but it was running down my eyes.
For over a year, the NBC 4I team has been tracking crimes where the suspects are homeless.
Tonight we have learned those incidents are skyrocketing.
Investigative reporter Joel Grover reports on the growing threat linked to the untreated mental illness and drug addiction on LA's Streets of Shame.
Keep your eye on the woman walking out of this apartment building.
A homeless man approaches and suddenly smacks her in the head.
There are now thousands of crimes a year like this one in which the suspects are homeless and in many cases suffering from mental illness or substance abuse.
It's so traumatic.
Sorry.
Heidi Van Tassel was walking to her car near Hollywood's Walk of Fame when, according to police and court records, a transient with schizophrenia and psychotic disorders dumped feces all over her.
A bucket of his diarrhea.
It was liquid, hot liquid.
I was soaked and I couldn't see what was coming off of my eyelashes into my eyes.
Paramedics rushed her to the hospital and she now needs to be tested for infectious diseases every three months.
It's something I won't ever forget.
It was, I mean, it was disgusting.
elijah schaffer
It was awful.
unidentified
And it changed my life.
Heidi Van Tassel says she's experiencing PTSD from that attack seven months ago.
It's changed the way I feel walking on the street.
elijah schaffer
Okay, well, why is it that most of our shows end up just being about poop?
austen fleccas fletcher
I think it's because we live in LA.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, here's what's really crazy is they were saying that nobody who lives in these situations, meaning just normal situations in LA, nobody who lives here can really be healthy.
As in us, which is saying something.
austen fleccas fletcher
That's why I look like this.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
No, but really, so I want to get into this.
So first of all, you know, this is not just a problem, right?
Poop on the head.
This is disgusting.
You're a girl.
You walk around.
Do you feel safe on the streets?
unidentified
Not in Los Angeles, no, especially in Hollywood, because you can see them all on the sidewalks.
You can see piss and poop just like on the sides of buildings, just like, yeah, it's gross.
elijah schaffer
Well, and do you even feel good?
Because you actually dress nicely.
You take time to get ready.
Don't you feel dirty when you just walk on the streets?
Like, isn't it just disgusting?
unidentified
It's gross.
I take a shower right when I get home.
elijah schaffer
Ugh, yeah, but you don't live.
You live out, what, Temecula or Desert?
unidentified
I live like a little bit cleaner.
elijah schaffer
All right, so I want to get into this.
So by the way, this whole idea of the homeless attacking people is becoming such a big problem that a recent article from the LA Times came out.
This is a title, by the way.
This is not from a third world country.
It's called Firecrackers, Molotov Cocktails, Fire Attacks Have Shaken LA's Homeless Community.
And it says that the acts have involved homeless on homeless violence, as well as targeted attacks from outsiders, leaving some activists concerned that frustration with the city's growing homeless population has reached a violent tipping point.
There were 2,500 fires involving the homeless community throughout Los Angeles.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I keep laughing at this stuff because it's like, you can't believe it, right?
austen fleccas fletcher
It's like a Mad Max world that we live in.
elijah schaffer
It's like, you're like, you're reading this, like, seriously.
I read this as if, like, this is not a joke.
Double the number of the city saw in 2017.
So it's getting worse, said Captain Patrick Leonard of Los Angeles Fire Department's arson and counterterrorism section.
So we have counter-terrorists actually on employment trying to stop homeless violence.
Like we have counter-terrorist units.
In other places, New York, it's like Muslims and things like that.
But here we're focused on the actual homeless.
austen fleccas fletcher
They're trying to figure out the motive and like have like the strings on the on the board, like trying to figure out why did they do it.
And it's like, ah, it's pretty random, man.
It's a lot of mental illness.
And the Quran put the poop on her head.
elijah schaffer
No.
unidentified
Poop.
austen fleccas fletcher
Why today?
What time did it happen?
1043, 1043, 3401.
elijah schaffer
But as we said, there's already been 2,320 such incidents in Los Angeles, meaning figure is on pace to rise for the second year.
So we've doubled it.
The numbers include arson as well as accidental fires.
The fires add another dangerous challenge to those living in the streets, in addition to the obvious risk of injury.
Through the first six months of 2019, violent crimes targeting homeless victims have jumped 34%, which is what brings me to the discussion.
People are getting so tired of the homeless problem, they're literally beginning to turn on them and become violent towards them.
What do you think about that?
unidentified
I want to go back really quick because you said this is not a third world country.
Just to bring in some like personal experience, my family's from Trinidad, which is a third world country.
And they have a population of 1.3 million.
They're the size of LA.
And they only have about 400 homeless people.
And that's a country with a deep level of corruption.
And they can take care of their homeless people better than California is.
elijah schaffer
And it is, but it's not even just a problem.
It's like you don't see the government doing anything.
Don't you like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, people are attacking these people.
They're lighting their encampments on fire.
They're throwing, like, I think earlier in the article, it talks about a homeless man woke up because someone threw a firecracker and blew up his tent or whatever.
It's like the people are seeing the government is not taking care of these people.
The homeless people are attacking us.
And so people are just starting to like, they're going to, I think they're going to just like start killing people.
Like, I think there's probably a serial killer out on the streets of LA murdering hundreds of these people.
austen fleccas fletcher
For sure.
And my tip would be: if you come to LA, if you come to California, this is kind of how I lived.
I used to live in Skid Row area, so I know how to go about it.
Assume everyone coming towards you or walking behind you or crossing the street next to you is going to try to dump diarrhea on you.
That's what you have to do.
unidentified
And that's how I've lived my life.
elijah schaffer
I was on the road to try to stab me.
austen fleccas fletcher
I mean, one time I stepped in human poop, and that was like that lady said, like, oh, I think about it every day.
It changed my life forever.
Like, that happened to me from stepping in it.
What happened to her is like.
elijah schaffer
She has to get tested for HIV and like hepatitis every month.
I mean, I helped a guy.
I had a podcast on this previously, but I had helped a guy to get some food.
He like shook my hand and stuff like that.
And he told me he had MRSA, hepatitis, and HIV.
And I had to go get tested for infection just for buying a guy Panda Express.
Like you can try to do it.
Like just to be a Christian here, you risk contracting HIV to buy someone some orange chicken.
austen fleccas fletcher
Every three months.
unidentified
Did you throw out those shoes?
austen fleccas fletcher
Oh, yeah.
elijah schaffer
And he's like, I'm wearing them now.
He picks them up on the desk.
Yeah, okay.
And so this brings it up, though.
This is not a joke.
Because there's another article from USA Today that says, as homeless are suffering, risk of hepatitis, typhus, and other diseases growing.
And I read you, this is really remarkable.
It says the Center for Disease Control and Prevention said Americans with typhoid fever are usually infected abroad.
Probably places like Trinidad and stuff.
But in Los Angeles.
This is what you always see in America.
It's like, here's the state of America, but in LA.
There's always a but when it comes to Los Angeles.
A police department employee assigned to the city's traditional homeless epicenter as the place of infection of bacteria in downtown LA, the head of business improvement district sobbed.
So the department, the head of the business department, a government official, was crying in this interview as she talked about the issue and government inaction.
She said, it's a disgrace.
We are not doing anything to alleviate a human tragedy, said Estella Lopez, executive director of the Central City East Association, which hires cleanup crews.
Every day she said the challenges stack up.
It is trash.
It is rats.
It is unchecked garbage.
People using buckets for bathrooms.
It's a threat to public health.
She said her crews pick up five to seven tons of waste a day in the city and they don't even scratch the surface.
Damn.
austen fleccas fletcher
Wow.
elijah schaffer
Do we have anything to say about that?
Is there anything to say?
unidentified
Well, I mean, they used to have like containment areas in the 70s and they had like public bathrooms and things like that.
But then they got rid of them because they were finding people doing like prostitution and like selling drugs out of them.
So it's like, how do we find a solution then?
Because whenever you go talk to these homeless people, they're like, we need more bathroom stalls.
We need more showers.
But it's like they had that and then they got rid of it.
elijah schaffer
What about insane asylums?
What happened to those?
austen fleccas fletcher
We should open insane asylums again.
unidentified
That's what they do in Trinidad.
They check them into psychiatric homes.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but you have to, like, I feel like the gray line with that is that people go, well, then you can start like kind of like the red flag laws, like locking people up who shouldn't be there.
But I think there should just be like a warning system.
hey if you like it's not like it's not like hey if you're like yelling at the sky it's like if you light chairs on fire again in a restaurant that's where we're at like if you throw another bucket of poop on someone's head you're not any buckets of poop until you're sent away Right, that's what I'm saying.
It's got to be like a thing.
It's like, hey, man, so like you stab someone.
austen fleccas fletcher
It has to be one, right?
elijah schaffer
It's sad we've gotten to that point, though, where it's like, we're not talking about just locking people up who are like a little bit schizo.
We're talking about people who are like just assaulting human beings.
If you hit that woman, you'd be in jail for 15 years.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah.
That guy got hit and his dog didn't do anything.
That was so embarrassing for him on TV.
It's like, oh, yeah, here's me getting hit.
And then there's my dog.
elijah schaffer
Bad boy doesn't deserve treats.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah, he's not going to the house.
elijah schaffer
It's true.
And that's the state of it.
And honestly, guys, I'm telling you.
So if you want to move to LA, you can get poop thrown on your head, which is why we moved this studio out of central LA and into the suburbs.
But still, still, I've mentioned this.
I mean, the building next door is completely closed down.
We've had two homeless people die next door in the last year alone.
I mean, it's not exactly a good area.
Like, this is considered a better area of LA.
And it's, I mean, it's still not the best.
It's not good.
It's disgusting.
Someone tried to kidnap my wife, actually.
Do you know about that?
No.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Someone tried to kidnap her.
So she was walking at night.
This is not a joke.
She was walking at night and a guy in a white van circled like six or seven times.
And then she called me as he was circling this saying, come out, you got to come find me.
So while I'm running out, he's already pulling over next to her in the white van while no one's around.
austen fleccas fletcher
You're like Liam Neeson and you're like.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I shot him.
No, I'm just kidding.
And I'm running up and he sees me and he zooms away.
Like he literally, she just went to go on a walk and a guy tried to kidnap her.
It's like a movie, but it's not a joke.
And this is a good part of LA.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah, and then rents over like 2,000 bucks.
And you get kidnapped on the street and there's dump everywhere.
People not only use their dump on the ground, they're trying to pour dump on you.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, he's like, you have to worry about dump and kidnapping.
She was crying that whole night.
It was very scarring.
But it was like, but it was funny because the next day we just got over it.
She's like, oh, don't worry.
It was just like, it was just an almost kidnapping.
Like, at least someone didn't pour HIV-infected dump on your head.
kaitlin bennett
Absolutely.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah, you have to get tested every three months.
Tested every three months.
Imagine like encroaching in someone's life like that.
Every three months you have to get tested now.
Well, it's an open mail, dude.
elijah schaffer
Welcome to the liberal utopia.
All right, our next segment is called, I can't do it.
We're just calling it.
austen fleccas fletcher
It's called, I can't do it.
elijah schaffer
No, it's called, my voice is messy.
austen fleccas fletcher
Come on, do it.
elijah schaffer
You know, when liberals freak out about everything?
You know, we're going to get into that.
And then we're also going to get into canceled as well with Caitlin Bennett.
These are going to be a really good segment.
So let's jump first into Caitlin Bennet on this series of Canceled, where we're going to look at people who have been canceled, shut down, and silenced on the left and the right.
This is going to be really, really awesome.
And I got to talk about this.
This is controversial.
So Caitlin Bennett, of course, is somebody who was kicked out of Turning Point USA, a nonprofit conservative group, for basically putting up a no-safe space event where they wore diapers.
Were you familiar with that one?
Do you remember that?
Where they put on diapers on college campus?
And they wore diapers and pretended to be liberals and they just got kicked out kind of wearing diapers.
unidentified
I did not hear about that.
austen fleccas fletcher
With the conservatives made fun of liberals and wore diapers?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it's like they made like a fake safe space and they had like toys and like pacifiers on the college.
austen fleccas fletcher
And they put diapers on?
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
austen fleccas fletcher
Took it far.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, well, I think there was more to the story.
There was more to the story.
Originally, Charlie was in support or something, and then there was some drama, and then they got kicked out.
But I know that because of that, there's always been a little bit of rift between Caitlin and Turning Point for a variety of reasons.
People have these kind of rifts.
So what happens basically is Michelle Malkin, who was a network speaker for YAF.
She's also a previous employee of CRTV.
She was fired for not disavowing Nicholas J. Fuentes.
And basically, people are saying, since you won't disavow him, you're fired because of her speech.
So then Caitlin Bennett goes to Michael Knowles' speech, who's currently one of the speakers for YAF, another nonprofit, and tries to ask him if he'll stand up for her getting fired and this happens.
kaitlin bennett
I wanted to ask you a question.
I think it was you.
unidentified
We're not allowed to talk.
We're not allowed to talk on behalf of YAF.
kaitlin bennett
But you were the one telling, no, that's Caitlin Bennett.
Don't.
unidentified
No, it was a misunderstanding.
kaitlin bennett
I promise.
Can you explain that?
elijah schaffer
It was a misunderstanding.
unidentified
I was just telling her that that was who you were.
kaitlin bennett
Then why were you doing the like no?
unidentified
I'm sorry, we're not allowed to talk.
I'm sorry.
kaitlin bennett
Why aren't you allowed to talk to me if you don't want me to ask you?
Because we don't want me.
Yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
Then why did you give that no symbol?
unidentified
I can't remember doing that, but if I did, that was honestly, I promise it was not anything about you.
I was just, she didn't recognize you or know you, so I wanted to let her know that that was you.
kaitlin bennett
Come on, guys.
unidentified
You were wondering about that.
kaitlin bennett
Guys, come on.
unidentified
I really promise.
kaitlin bennett
Come on.
Be honest with me.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
I'm putting an end to this.
This police officer's right there, and I need to talk about it.
kaitlin bennett
I've got a curse.
This is a public campus.
I know.
What are you talking about?
You sat there and you're like, that's Caitlin Bennett, and you said no.
You guys are conservatives.
You guys want to work for a conservative organization, but you won't let other conservatives ask the question?
unidentified
I honestly, I promise it was not.
kaitlin bennett
Then why don't you come and explain it to me so I know?
unidentified
I'm not really supposed to talk about it, I don't think.
kaitlin bennett
You don't allow to talk about why you said no?
unidentified
I didn't.
I just it was not about you.
kaitlin bennett
It was really a misunderstanding.
Then come explain it to me.
So they're getting the cops.
unidentified
It was a misunderstanding.
kaitlin bennett
I promise.
I would just like to know if you could just explain it to me, then that would be great.
unidentified
It was just that she hit it in a forest in the conversation.
kaitlin bennett
I don't think that's true.
Yeah, what are the cops going to do?
I'm in a public building, a public campus, just trying to ask some questions.
There again, conservatives trying to use the state to come in and silence people they don't like.
There they go.
This is conservative ink.
These are the people who are telling you what to think, what you must believe in, what you can't speak out in support of.
You must disavow certain things.
This is who they are.
They run to the police when you want to call them out on something.
We're waiting for Michael Knowles.
We want to ask him if he'll stand up for Michelle Malkin, his colleague at YAF, who got left out to dry because she refused to disavow people that Conservative Inc. wanted her to disavow.
She said, I'm not going to do it.
You can't tell me what to do.
I don't see really anything that these people should be disavowed.
elijah schaffer
All right, so let's start with you, Jamie.
Obviously, this is an interesting situation.
People that are unfamiliar with it, they can Google it.
They can look up what's going on here of internal fighting on the right.
But Michelle Malcolm was fired, whatever, for this very reason.
She was going to ask some questions.
Do you feel like Caitlin was justified in the situation?
Do you think Gaff was justified?
What's your thoughts?
unidentified
Okay, I was actually going to ask you to kind of explain it because I was a little...
elijah schaffer
Well, she was trying to ask Michael Knowles.
She was trying to get in to ask Michael Knowles the simple question or to get in to ask them questions of why they would disavow her getting fired for that.
And basically they ended up just kind of like, they were giving like hand signals and stuff like that.
I got looked in for comment and like saying, don't talk to Caitlin Bennett, who, by the way, has nothing to do with this America First movement or conservative Inc.
She does her own, she does her own thing.
She's not even directly involved in any of this infighting kind of stuff, but she just does what she always does.
She just confronts people and tries to ask them.
They acted really scared.
It was very awkward.
They were like inching away towards like the police officers.
No matter where you stand on this, that's what I'm saying.
I mean, they definitely were keeping her out.
And I'm just saying, is she justified in trying to ask this question?
Were they justified?
What do you think about the situation?
unidentified
Yeah, I think she's justified to go into an event and ask a public figure a question.
Like, I don't see a reason why they were trying to keep her out.
So I don't know.
That's just me personally.
I don't know.
elijah schaffer
But do you feel like, do you feel like, because the point is, the arguments that's being made is that people are like gatekeeping anybody who doesn't follow the mainstream conservative ideology.
Like they're basically like militantly keeping and blocking people from being a part of the conversation.
That's kind of what I think she's trying to convey is like because she doesn't fall in line with directly what this group, which I don't know, who the hell came up with Conservative Inc.?
Where did that come from?
austen fleccas fletcher
I think it came from the Nick Fuentez Groiper Conservative Inc. dissident right or whatever the two were.
But I mean, is this Yaff's event?
unidentified
Yes.
austen fleccas fletcher
So I'm going to look at it with like the gay baker cake thing and be like, if Yaff doesn't want to let her in, fine.
She's not allowed in.
Now she can go make a viral video, put it on the internet, show it to a million people, and the people watching can be like, ooh, I'm not that happy with Yaff or, ooh, Yaff did a great thing.
And then they can kind of like figure it out that way.
I'm cool with this, how this played out.
If there want to be gatekeepers that establish themselves within the movement that are going to start gatekeeping, then it's like you're going to have like these Groyper Wars.
You're going to have people exposing it.
So it's like it kind of holds these people accountable.
So for as much as it is kind of unfortunate to see the infighting, it is almost like making us leaner for the fight, which is 2020 is how I'm seeing it.
It's like preseason football.
You fight with your own team.
Everyone gets better.
Everyone gets in really good shape.
And then the season happens and you're all one team going forward.
So I think that's kind of what's happening now.
I don't see it going too far in a radical direction.
elijah schaffer
I don't know, though, because one of the weird things is like people keep asking me to take sides in all this too.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah, me too.
elijah schaffer
Like, take a side.
Who are you with?
austen fleccas fletcher
I don't have to do anything.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, exactly.
I don't want to listen to you.
And then what's funny is when they actually ask you what your real views are on all this infighting and stuff, and I share my real views, and then one group says, oh, you're too controversial.
It's like the conservative ink people tell me, like, sometimes or blacklist me from things.
So they go, you're too fringy.
And the fringe people go, oh, you're conservative ink.
And it's like, maybe I'm just me.
Maybe I've never changed.
Maybe I don't support Israel because Glenn Beck paid me to do it.
Maybe I just believe in the state of Israel.
People go, you're a shill.
Here you go shilling for Israel.
You're like, dude, I've always had these same views.
It's like, why would you get hired at a barber if you didn't know how to cut hair?
Why would you get hired in an organization that is pro-Israel probably if you were against Israel?
They didn't tell me to believe what I believe.
I probably fit in with a certain organization because I held similar views.
But then it's like, oh, so you're just another stock and you just fall in line with everything they believe.
It's like, no, probably the most pro-Trump person, one of the more pro-Trump people at the Blaze.
I've been since day one.
I've been always against people who make, I mean, you know, who took them lightly, the never Trumpers.
And it's like, why can't you just accept that there's no distinct lines?
Like, you're a conservative ink or you're this Groiper person.
Like, why don't you just let people be free thinkers?
unidentified
Right.
And I'm totally for like having a discussion and everything, but you shouldn't be like forced to speak to somebody if you don't want to speak to them, right?
So like a lot of people in the Groiper movement are like, oh, answer these questions, answer these questions.
Charlie Kirk doesn't want to answer these questions.
And it's like, well, he doesn't like have to if he doesn't want to.
You know, like he might be doing a bad job like for his own PR, but like he's not forced to do anything.
elijah schaffer
Is it disingenuous for him not to?
That's the argument.
And that they'll talk to, like Mike Cernovich put up a good thing.
You might have a comment on this.
He was saying, like, basically, like Dan Crenshaw and these people will sit down with like abortionists and like really people that are far left, you know, people that are like black nationalists, people that are looking, you know, they're against white people, like anti-white racists, but like you won't sit down with anyone on like that you consider, even if you, even if they are bad people, let's just give the benefit of the doubt.
Let's say either team is completely right about each other when we're talking to them and conservative ink's evil or the groipers are evil, whatever.
You talk to them.
It's like the idea is so are people who kill babies, but I'll sit down and talk to an abortionist doctor and I'm not really like, I don't give what the threat is of talking to people and actually answering them.
And someone doesn't believe in abortion or does, that's where you have to have the argument.
Like, why do I not agree that abortion is a good idea?
And I have to sit down and kind of explain myself.
And a lot of people won't agree.
They'll get mad at me.
They'll say I'm against women and everything.
But I'm willing to take that to have the conversation.
But I think that what Mike was pointing out is like, it's just disingenuous a little bit.
He doesn't even like Nick Fuentez.
He even wrote on his tweet, like, I think he's too offensive, too out there.
I'm not, don't think he's like, I don't agree with where he goes.
I don't think his followers are great.
But that, but he's still saying, but like the fact that you will go out of your way to talk to all these other people you disagree with, and then you won't talk to a certain group of people you disagree with.
They just think it's disingenuous.
And I can see it.
unidentified
Yeah, I definitely can see both sides.
So it's like, yeah, it's like the best ideas are supposed to win.
And it's like, well, if, I don't know, Turning Pointer Charlie Kirk doesn't want to be labeled like, oh, you're entertaining these white nationalists-labeled conservatives.
And it's like, I can see how that might get messy, but I still think that they should, he should at least sit down or, you know, just hammer it out that way.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah, I think the truth's in the middle here.
Like, yeah, there should be an entertainment of ideas at the same time.
Charlie Kirk runs a 501c3.
The same time Nick Fuentez has, I think, 70,000 followers.
He's been ripping up and growing.
elijah schaffer
I'm getting like 20 or 30, someone told me to gain like 20,000 a month.
austen fleccas fletcher
But like, no one has to do anything.
Like, yeah, maybe there should be a discussion.
Like, that could be beneficial.
Maybe there isn't going to be one.
But, you know, it's not shutting down free speech if you don't invite people to your private events.
That's just like, you know, essentially with the aft or whatever this is.
It's like, you don't, no one has to do anything.
elijah schaffer
Well, and I think this is what I brought up to someone that was really interesting about this: there's this complaint about gatekeepers, which is a real issue always.
But you brought up earlier, like, gatekeeping is not clearly as big of the deal as it was before the age of the internet.
Like, Nick's a good example.
Like, he had his ideas, he wanted to get big, and now he's suddenly growing and getting his audience.
And it's like, there's no, nobody can stop him from getting the Twitter followers unless he literally got deleted.
But, like, nobody can literally tell Twitter, don't let people follow him.
He's growing in this following because that's kind of the freedom of the internet.
You can draw people, even if you get kicked off platforms, you can make your own websites and stuff.
You can draw people to you.
And Ben Shapiro can't make him not get followers.
Like, it's like, it's not like the TV days where there was only a couple networks.
unidentified
Like Milo.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, like, well, yeah, exactly.
They got him off.
But that's what I want to say with this.
That's why I just think it's really weird too, because somebody said, okay, cool.
Well, what about with the gatekeepers?
Are they bad?
And I said, dude, I made a video my last podcast, and I don't care.
Fine.
People had their comments against it.
But there was like thousands of comments on there that were basically just like homophobic pejoratives.
Just like, you know, I mean, it wasn't like a lot of good answers.
It was just like angry people who were really mean-spirited.
And that's what I told him.
I said, if you want to call out the conservative Inc. people for gatekeeping, fine.
But then you've got to answer the fact that why would I want you guys to be in charge if what you guys do is just get together and groipe and attack people?
If you were in power, it looks like you would be just as aggressive and bad too.
So it's like, you want me to choose a side of who I want in power?
I don't want gatekeepers on any side in power.
And I don't want people who are using aggression.
And it's all negativity.
It's just tearing people down.
Like Dave Rubin said, he goes, I'm not going to talk to people who all they do is just say terrible things about me and cut me down.
Like, why do I want to talk to those people?
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah, every time I'm introduced into that world or mentioned or involved in a tweet or an Instagram, whenever I get comments from like the Groiper crew, it's always like, Israel shill, fuck this is a Jew.
And I was like, what?
Like, what?
You got the beard.
Yeah, I look Jewish, but I was like, what are you guys talking about?
And it's all just this horrible stuff.
And it's like, why would I want to dig deeper on your side?
I'm not saying I'm like choosing to be ignorant.
I think he brought up some fair points.
And Charlie did adjust his views on immigration and come out with that publicly.
I think there was some good stuff that was done.
then all like the Israel, you're a Jew, shill, all this stuff.
It's like, ah, you guys get to work on like the branding and the marketing side.
elijah schaffer
Well, yeah, it's like too, there's like too many toxic people mixed in.
And that's what I would say is ultimately that that to me is my biggest frustration with this is it's not like it's not like Nick gets all his ideas wrong.
Like when he talks about certain things, you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater technically because it's like no one, no one person gets every idea wrong, right?
Even people who hate Trump, there's like, it's like, well, Trump, there is some good things that you can admit Trump did.
But the thing is, is that there's just these people that are going in.
It's like, I'm not holding him accountable, by the way, for the people that follow him because I can't do that to people who can't say, well, these people follow you.
But like also too, if like anytime someone doesn't give you 100% of what you want or doesn't agree with you, you get the whole, the whole point of it is you get groiped.
They come after you and just destroy you.
It's like, well, that's not a positive movement.
Like I don't, I don't want to be with a bunch of negative people.
I don't like that.
Like that's not my style.
Like I'm more of a relaxed dude.
And if that's what being a real conservative is, I've never even claimed to be like.
unidentified
A real, what is that?
elijah schaffer
Well, they always say a true, true conservative.
It's like, I've always said like I was more of a liberal guy and I've been open and I've been centered and I kind of moved in the direction and everyone's mad that I am who I said I have been.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah.
And this whole situation too, it's like there is room for criticism.
There is room to call out the yafts or the turning points or whatever and make your point heard.
We live in a world of ultra transparency on the internet.
Everyone can put a video out that can go viral.
So if you have a good idea, people will see it.
And that's kind of what happened here.
But at a certain point, it's like back to like the football analogy.
It's like you don't hit your own teammate in a way that you know would injure them.
You just like pull off and not do it.
So it's like there is a point where, yeah, be criticizing, go hard, make a point.
But then if you cross that line where it's like, it's actually personal and you just want to burn Charlie Kirk down and Turning Point USA down, then you're, then you're ruining it for a lot of people.
And like, yeah, you may not agree with Turning Point and everything, but I think Turning Point is a net positive.
Like where was conservative student outreach five years ago?
None.
Now there's hundreds of thousands of members.
These kids are excited about it.
It's easy to get like a community and start building like grassroots stuff.
And that's like such an important thing right now.
And to burn it down because maybe like a personal vendetta or personal hate against the guy, I think that would be short-sighted.
And I don't know.
I'm interested to see how it plays out, but it is, you know, getting into some murky waters.
unidentified
Yeah, the tactics are very like far left that they're doing.
And they're supposed to be like fighting.
elijah schaffer
Both sides are doing it too.
Like, that's what I'm saying about the idea of like, well, which side are you in?
It's like, dude, yes, if somebody's just calling you a white supremacist and an anti-Semite without evidence or taking it a context, sure, I'll say that's wrong too.
But then also you just saying like, well, you got to take these people down with like, well, who's in it?
Like, who are you taking down?
A person?
The organization?
All of us?
And it's like, it's like, also, you remember this politics has a spectrum of ideas.
And we don't all feel the exact same way.
But like one thing I think is interesting, someone's like, conservative think is the ultimate enemy.
We've got to take them down.
I go, you're mad about their views on immigration.
So somebody who you think is going to let too many people in on immigrants is your issue when the left's idea is open borders.
The left is literally fighting for open borders.
To me, that's a bigger enemy.
austen fleccas fletcher
I told one of the Grouper's that I was at UCLA and I met like one of the Groiper's nice guy.
He was a fan of my show.
He was cool.
He wasn't mad at me for anything, but he was like talking about how mad he is with Trump.
It's not enough wall built.
And I was like, all right, dude, vote for Elizabeth Warren.
Sorry.
There's your other option.
Don't vote for Trump.
He's not doing a good enough job.
Like what we have with Trump is like a one in a hundred years president.
So it's like, yeah, he's not doing, you know, it's not perfect or it's not as fast as you want.
Sorry.
But the other option is so insanely radical and they're going to try to like make up for all the lost time of Trump that they're going to go so radical and that's like the real problem happens.
elijah schaffer
Right.
And well, and I fully agree, but I also think too that like, that's why I'm just, I'm not, I'm just not clear what people want.
And I think what I've talked to them, I think the Groyper is, and I kind of want to close on this for this segment, is that I think they just want to be a part of the conversation.
And that being said, look, I don't mind.
I think that is wrong if people are trying to keep certain people out of the conversation.
But I do think that if they're going to find any real traction, they need to really figure out how to clean up not just the optics, but really, like, there's just, if you look at the comments and you look at where the people come from, there's a lot of people, and I'll just say with very toxic views on things.
They're very, I'm like, they go, well, don't white people have the right to exist?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
But also, too, like, you know, when you, when you hyper-focus on Israel and you also are constantly saying that America's for white people, it's like, and then they can't work with that.
We can't, we can't work with you on that one.
austen fleccas fletcher
And their avatar is the frog and their handle is like Groyper, man, Catholic.
And it's like, ugh.
It's definitely a Groyper.
elijah schaffer
That's what I'm saying.
It's too exclusive that it's like, it doesn't look at the country as a whole.
And so it's totally a fine thing.
I was distracted because the light fell behind you.
And I thought there was like a police.
And then I realized there's no windows in here.
So they're like, why would I see a police light?
But anyway.
austen fleccas fletcher
But yeah, good point.
elijah schaffer
You know what, but I'm just saying like that.
austen fleccas fletcher
There needs to be a seat at the table, I think.
There's a lot of people.
There's 100,000 young people that are watching this guy.
And it's like, I worry that, well, I think it's going to happen is they're going to throw him.
They're going to wait until 2020.
They're going to throw him off.
They're going to de-platform him.
I think it's going to be the left's going to write some articles about him.
They're going to get him de-platformed like they try to do with Crowder.
And they're going to try to drag Michelle Malkin in too.
So they have him done.
They can de-platform him pretty much for whenever, just because he said already enough things and they have enough articles that people have been deplatformed for less.
They'll get him and they're soon to see who associates with him in the next six months.
And then bam, oh, Michelle Malkin, so-and-so, so-and-so, Nick Fuentez, you guys are all out.
elijah schaffer
Deplatform is always a bad idea, though.
I'll say that.
austen fleccas fletcher
Radicalizing.
It's like now you have 100,000 mad people who are justifiably mad.
Why am I getting taken off of the free market of ideas or whatever?
Now we're like, we have to take action.
That's what I worry about.
elijah schaffer
Right.
That's all I'll say.
I think that if they have good points, then they need to really differentiate the good points and condemn previous things that were said.
And I know they keep saying it's edgy humor, but in the real world, it's like sometimes edgy humor.
It's like kind of like walking up to you like, haha, you're fat ugly bitch.
And it's like, oh, that was a joke.
It was just edgy.
And it's like, well, you can't be mad then that you offended someone.
If you keep saying it's a joke, like every time it's like, I hate your guts, hope your mom dies.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
It's like, sure, you could say I was just joking every time, but eventually you're just going to piss everyone off in the room.
And then you're like, why is everyone pissed off at me?
And it's like, because you just keep calling everyone, you just keep saying things that pissing everyone off.
And it's not like, you know, that's all I'm saying.
That's happening.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
So vegans are back in the news this week.
kaitlin bennett
I love them.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so vegans, this is a real article, by the way.
So a vegan man is suing the Burger King chain.
We have a Burger King employee in the background.
That's my sister-in-law, Tessa.
She's a Burger King employee.
Hungry Jacks.
Yeah, it's called Hungry Jacks.
But it says here that a man is suing Burger King because the meatless impossible whopper is cooked on the same grill as meat products.
unidentified
Oh, that's actually kind of bad.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah, good suit.
unidentified
That's actually pretty bad.
austen fleccas fletcher
Good suit.
unidentified
Yeah.
austen fleccas fletcher
I agree.
That's bad.
Line crossed.
No good.
elijah schaffer
I hate you guys.
unidentified
true yeah I was a vegan that would be like yeah my dad eats like he's not vegan he's like pescatarian but he eats a lot of vegan stuff and he cannot have anything cooked even in the same like pan as me because he'll get sick So that's a valid.
austen fleccas fletcher
Pescatarian?
unidentified
Pescatarians like fish.
elijah schaffer
I think it's a stupid lawsuit.
I thought that was a religious.
In Hungry Jacks, though, don't they have a, you said they have an actual A Rebel Whopper, and they tell people that it's cooked on the same grill, right?
austen fleccas fletcher
This is going to lead to every time you go to fast food, they're already telling you now, like, oh, there's like cancer stuff in the food.
It's like written, it's on the thing.
And everyone's like, okay.
And like, it's in our face.
There's soon going to be like a waiver where you get to the thing, you have to hit a thing and like sign your life away because you're eating like poison food.
And they're going to be like, we have to have people sign waivers every time they eat it.
elijah schaffer
That's just stupid.
It's like Burger King.
It's like, next one's going to be suing Burger King for like making them fat.
It's like, it's Burger King.
It's not good for you.
And why do you expect?
It's like a five-star meal.
It's like, I can't believe there's beef fat next to my like, they already gave you a vegan burger.
Like, grow up.
Just go eat.
You're a vegan.
Why are you eating Burger King?
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
It's like those vegans who eat French fries all the time.
Like, well, I'm a vegan.
And you go, well, you're fat as hell because you don't understand veganism.
It's not about just eating potatoes.
It's about changing your lifestyle to be healthier.
unidentified
Yeah, but shouldn't they take into consideration, though, that if they're going to adopt a vegan burger, then they should also maybe cook it the way vegans would and take into consideration like I don't give a damn.
austen fleccas fletcher
Is everything else?
Is the bun and the sauce and the cheese all vegan too?
unidentified
I don't think the cheese is.
austen fleccas fletcher
Because if it's not, then they're kind of like, it's a veggie burger.
unidentified
That's true.
austen fleccas fletcher
If it's vegan, if it's a veggie burger, you can put that on whatever.
elijah schaffer
No, I'm, I mean, I know there are conservative vegans, that's fine, but they're not the ones suing burgers.
austen fleccas fletcher
There's conservative UFC fighters.
It's not that crazy.
elijah schaffer
No, I know what I'm saying, but these are the vegans I hate.
So if you hate them, it's like, it's just because it's like, dude, it's what you like.
You want an impossible burger neck?
You're suing the company because they cook it.
Like, just go don't eat there anymore.
It's like, raise awareness, write a blog, make money off of it.
You're suing the company.
This isn't a hell of a personal choice.
unidentified
Do we know what circumstances they were suing?
Like, did they eat it and they got sick because they realized they cooked it in the meat?
Did they get sick?
elijah schaffer
Well, because Burger King's website describes the impossible Whopper as 100% Whopper, 0% beef.
For guessing for a meat-free option, a non-boiler method of preparation is available.
He purchased Impossible Whopper at a location in Atlanta in August after seeing advertisements and paid premium price.
The lawsuit alleges that if he had known the burger would be cooked in such a manner, he would not have purchased it.
unidentified
Suing what?
elijah schaffer
$7.99?
austen fleccas fletcher
He should have asked.
unidentified
He's a whole animal activist in it.
That's what it sounds like because he said he doesn't.
Where did it go?
He doesn't purchase any animal.
elijah schaffer
He suffered monetary damages?
He suffered monetary damages.
He paid for a Whopper.
That's monetary damages.
unidentified
Yeah, well.
austen fleccas fletcher
This guy needs to go to bed, as Terrence would say.
unidentified
I'd advocate for somebody if they actually got sick from it.
elijah schaffer
Is he going to hell?
austen fleccas fletcher
Or he could sue Burger King, make like $120,000, start a small business.
elijah schaffer
He's going to burn in the hell of beef fat for this one.
It's like, no one even likes Burger King.
Burger King doesn't even be sued.
Nobody even goes there.
Like, poor Burger King.
It's like, Burger King's serving.
That's like, is Burger King still exist?
unidentified
Yeah, but you eat like everything.
elijah schaffer
Well, I was wondering if Burger King wasn't even a real place.
I thought I went to business in like 98.
austen fleccas fletcher
I'm a self-proclaimed BK boy.
Me and my old roommate, we speak BK boys.
We go to Burger King all the time, eat Whoppers and cheese.
It's pure Americana.
elijah schaffer
It's disgusting.
austen fleccas fletcher
Bad take on you guys.
unidentified
Wow.
elijah schaffer
Austin eats a lot of cheeseburgers.
unidentified
Yeah, one's gift true.
You ordered like 30 cheeseburgers from McDonald's at one time.
austen fleccas fletcher
Well, it was for a group of people.
It was from a group of people.
elijah schaffer
That's really bad.
You heard it here.
austen fleccas fletcher
It's like a meeting, and I want people to have options that they didn't all get in.
elijah schaffer
No, it's true.
It's true.
But we'll say on this one.
unidentified
I did order Burger Group.
elijah schaffer
Do you think that was justified?
Do you think this was justified?
unidentified
Yes or no?
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah, got the fat cat corporations.
Sue them every day.
unidentified
I get it, but I'm still like, it would have been better if he got sick.
I mean, I'm glad he didn't get sick, but like, it would have been a good thing.
austen fleccas fletcher
You were the one laughing at the diarrhea lady before?
Oh, that's interesting.
elijah schaffer
That was the worst segment to start with.
Like, why did we start with diarrhea?
Like, we started with something more serious.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
We started with diarrhea.
All right.
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And let's continue on after the break.
All right, we're back for segment B.
We got a couple more awesome.
Why are you doing that?
austen fleccas fletcher
Trying to hide for segment B. I'm out of water.
unidentified
Is this the alphabet?
elijah schaffer
I'm almost out of water too.
austen fleccas fletcher
You know what's the best tasting water I've found?
Dasani.
I drink Dasani.
I basically drank Dasani my whole life.
It's so good.
It's crisp.
The bottle's grape.
That's a great serving size.
This is not a paid ad, but I am going to send them an invoice after and see what they think.
I'm going to ask for 12 grand.
Maybe they hit me back.
If I can do 10 of those, hit three for 10.
I think I have a new business.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I forgot to tell you.
austen fleccas fletcher
That's what Fleck is Talks drinks, Dasani.
unidentified
Cool.
austen fleccas fletcher
That's a good plus.
unidentified
Yeti.
elijah schaffer
Well, this is at a paywall now, so this is okay.
We're not going to be in the commercial.
unidentified
Yeti.
elijah schaffer
Buy Yeti.
austen fleccas fletcher
I have to stand up for Dasani.
I disagree strongly.
It's not the worst.
Hit her head at Lake Arrowhead.
elijah schaffer
Disani.
unidentified
Oh, that's pretty bad too.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and the bottles are like now with less like that.
Was the best ploy, by the way, by companies.
Our bottles now have smaller caps and thinner plastic, which was like basically like we're saving money now and you're getting a crappier product, but you have to think better of us.
Like now we're a better company offering you a cheaper and worse product.
That's the best part.
It's like we're not like that.
That's what I love about this whole climate movement.
It's like we're going to offer you worse stuff.
Also, the deal is.
Oh, the worst.
unidentified
We should be using like pasta as straws.
I hate doing that.
austen fleccas fletcher
It should be easy with plastic as straws.
unidentified
Yeah.
austen fleccas fletcher
Now we have to be talking about.
unidentified
Okay, but I'm also for like cleaning up the environment.
elijah schaffer
Like the cleaning.
unidentified
I like straws.
elijah schaffer
I hate turtles now because of the paper straws.
I always want turtles to die.
I'm like, just stick it in the nose, you know?
Like, just let it bleed out.
austen fleccas fletcher
That's what I do.
elijah schaffer
I don't care anymore about the turtles because literally, it's like if you ruin another one of my 15 cocktails, what's his name?
Larry or whatever the guy from Finemo?
unidentified
Larry.
elijah schaffer
What was his name?
unidentified
Dora.
elijah schaffer
Larry.
unidentified
No, the turtle.
elijah schaffer
The chill turtle.
Crutch.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Crunch.
Crunch.
Crush?
unidentified
Crush.
elijah schaffer
Crush can die.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
He's ruined.
He's ruined.
If you ruin another Moscow mule on a rooftop, you're dead.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah.
If I get one more Moscow mule on a rooftop ruin, I'm taking a straw.
I'm going to the beach right into a turtle right in the ocean.
elijah schaffer
This is where they cut you off when they want to de-platform you.
They're like, Austin's against animals and de-platforming.
He's like, it's like you.
It's like a picture of you shoving a straw down.
austen fleccas fletcher
Going, I do this all the time.
Throw it in the ocean.
I've never done anything bad to an animal.
I like animals.
Animals are great.
elijah schaffer
All right, this is great.
So this is good.
So we're going to get into our next segment, which is the alphabet people.
austen fleccas fletcher
Ooh, I was not prepared for this segment.
elijah schaffer
This is the reoccurring.
They're going to switch around.
This is the alphabet people.
And there was International Men's Day.
It was this week.
You guys are aware of that?
unidentified
Oh, yes.
austen fleccas fletcher
Congrats.
unidentified
Wait, did you know that 70% of the homeless are men?
elijah schaffer
Really?
unidentified
Yes.
And 44% are black.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
unidentified
Well, is that men and no, I'm just saying that there's clearly an issue here with men's health.
elijah schaffer
There really is.
International Men's Day, people were Clementine Ford, of course.
Clementine Fort, babe.
Clementine Ford, she's a nasty feminist girl, right, from Australia.
Oh, yuck.
She's disgusting.
She's really gross.
I don't know if her dad loves her.
Honestly, I don't think he does.
I don't think he does.
No, a woman that acts like that has never felt father's love, probably.
unidentified
Father's love is super important.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Literally.
unidentified
Super important.
austen fleccas fletcher
She's like, yeah, like raise the daughter and then hand her off to the husband.
elijah schaffer
No, and she was attacking Sidney Watson.
Sidney Watson made a great tweet and clapped back to this great tweet from the ACLU.
Can we get that on the screen, Todd?
austen fleccas fletcher
Oh, yeah.
elijah schaffer
ACLU.
This has been around, so you've probably already seen it before or you've heard it.
austen fleccas fletcher
National Men's Day, and this is you could see the best.
There's no one way to be a man.
Men who get their periods are men.
Men who get pregnant and give birth are men.
Trans and non-minorary men belong.
unidentified
Non-minaries?
austen fleccas fletcher
I messed it up.
But that guy, it makes no sense.
It's like literally like, what would the devil write?
He would maybe write it backwards.
You have to read it in a mirror, but it would probably be sentences like that.
You have to slit a goat's neck and smear it on the mirror and with a draw the pentagram, do the blood, look in the mirror, and it says men who get pregnant and give birth are men.
That's what I was saying.
elijah schaffer
That's Illuminati in the middle.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
It's true.
When we're not being funded by Israel, the Bilderberg group is behind this.
austen fleccas fletcher
What if this is a portal to a bad demon area and then they can come in?
elijah schaffer
Is this what the second segment of the show is going to always be?
It's like, clearly, like professional levels are down, and then we're going to find out that everyone likes the second segment always better.
And so then we're going to have to change the whole show to be like declassed down like five steps.
I imagine people like worse content.
Yeah.
austen fleccas fletcher
And we're pointing out potential satanic symbolism that could be influencing them watching.
So like we're on the audience's side.
elijah schaffer
You know, you realize that you can never make anyone happy?
That's why this is really retarded.
There is no way to be a man.
Men who get the periods are men.
Okay, first of all, they keep saying there's no difference between men and women, and they're trying to distinctualize this.
So then why do we care about transgenders?
Who gives a damn about transgenders if there's no differences and men are whatever?
If men don't matter, then I don't care if you're trans.
I'm just going by there.
I really don't care.
I'm so sick of this trans argument, by the way.
That's like, and this is why it says nice this is not on YouTube because we can say stuff like this.
On YouTube, you can get your channel deleted.
But it's like, I am so sick of this trans crap.
Like, why are 0.6% of the population hijacking everything?
unidentified
Yeah.
I just.
austen fleccas fletcher
Everyone's scared to be mean.
I don't want to be mean.
So there's.
elijah schaffer
You're mentally ill in a dress.
unidentified
Well, how they get their periods.
What are they talking about?
elijah schaffer
Jessica Yaneeve.
Jessica Yaneve is a man who claims to bleed from the penis.
I'm not joking.
She comes to be intersex or he or shim.
They claim to be an intersex.
unidentified
That's a hospital thing.
austen fleccas fletcher
I think I know why.
I think this is like testing from like the elites that run the whole world and they're testing.
And depending on how much the men are like watching porn will determine how much people stand up for stuff like this.
And everyone's like, whatever.
It's on Twitter.
Whatever.
Oh, you know, we got to be, you know, inclusive of everyone.
And you just like submit your life away.
elijah schaffer
It's disgusting.
austen fleccas fletcher
And it's a litmus test.
And I don't know.
Do we fail?
elijah schaffer
Okay, can we debunk each other?
austen fleccas fletcher
Hopefully not.
unidentified
I'm always confused.
Like, are they saying men?
So are the men trans men?
So like, are they women who are claiming to be men now and they get their periods if biologically they have their periods?
Or are they literally saying biological men can have theirs?
elijah schaffer
There's no one way to be a man.
Wait, that's a true, like, that's a very open statement, though.
Like, there's no one way to be a man.
It's like saying, like, I get it, like, stereotypes.
Like, when people, like, I always realize that people don't live in LA that watch my show don't understand what men are like in LA.
It's like, just because I don't carry a gun and I like don't wear like 501 Levi's and like, you know, speak like I just, whatever the opposite of helium is.
austen fleccas fletcher
Fixed defense or something.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it's like I just fixed it.
Welcome back to my shoe.
unidentified
Today we got steaks burning on the barbecue.
elijah schaffer
Cigarettes and steaks for breakfast.
We're going to bikes in a fence.
I'm going to drink a beer and then bite the top of the bottle off and chew it.
It's like, you know, and so then they get like really weirded out.
And so I get like that whole idea of, yes, like there's no one way to be a man.
You can like, there's different ways.
Being a man is qualities and things and people are different.
I get it.
Fine.
Sure.
That, whoa, that's really digitized.
Okay.
Then it goes, men who get their periods are men.
As if that's already a presupposition context, like that there are men who get their periods.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah, they're assuming that, sale.
unidentified
Men who get their periods.
elijah schaffer
Like, it's like, hey, you men who are getting your periods, don't let them tell you otherwise.
Like, men aren't bleeding out of their vaginas because they don't have vaginas.
Being a man, you don't have one.
That's why the woman's march has the pussy hat.
You know, so it would have penis hats.
We should start pushing dick hats at the woman's march.
austen fleccas fletcher
They were getting mad about that.
unidentified
Yes.
elijah schaffer
There are balls and a penis hat.
That's next woman's march.
austen fleccas fletcher
Well, at the last woman's march I went to, they said that the pussy hat is not inclusive.
So they were already on to this.
elijah schaffer
We got to sell them.
We should set up a cart.
We always crushed the women's march.
And part of it should we should sell penis house.
austen fleccas fletcher
Or we should sell like the latex like swimmers caps and be like, just no one's no one gets any representation.
elijah schaffer
Pink dildos, wiggly diggly ones, just the suction cup things, suck them onto like a shower cap.
We don't want to spend a lot of money.
And just like with wiggly dildos and be like, and sell them for 30 bucks.
Inclusive caps.
austen fleccas fletcher
Shower caps.
elijah schaffer
And then just slit the side for like a vagina.
Like it's like dualistic.
It's like get the intersex.
Oh, yeah.
What if we saw like really disgusting things like that?
Like in blood coming out of the top, it's like, well, you said they get a period.
austen fleccas fletcher
People would buy it.
Remember that time that guy took the baby, that man, that trans man?
That was so bad.
That was bad.
unidentified
That was disgusting.
austen fleccas fletcher
That was like Halloween.
unidentified
Did you see that?
austen fleccas fletcher
You guys are asking for it.
Oh, Halloween, too.
elijah schaffer
That would be a segment, Who's Going to Hell, Even If You're an Atheist, You Can Agree segment.
Like, it's like, like that guy, that thing's going to hell.
Like, someone's like, I don't believe in hell or God, but if there is one, they're going there.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah, that guy, he got three more demons that day.
elijah schaffer
It's disgusting.
Yeah, well, okay, what's the next thing?
And then men who get pregnant and give birth to men.
Same thing, right?
Yeah.
austen fleccas fletcher
They're assuming the sale.
Oh, men who get pregnant, they're men too.
And it's like, men get pregnant.
elijah schaffer
Are you offended by this whole idea of trivializing this?
unidentified
Yes, because men have no idea what women go through on their periods.
So.
elijah schaffer
Oh, we know.
unidentified
So it's like...
elijah schaffer
Not directly, but indirectly...
It's like, you guys are two weeks, you guys are sane.
And the other two weeks, it's like, what the hell?
Like, it's like, you think, should I be single for the rest of my life maybe?
And then you go, well, this is actually a pretty nice thing.
Like, wow, it smells good and it's beautiful and it's cute.
And then like, and then you're like, wow, I can really, and then there's like, like, one day you wake up.
It's like, what?
Who's in my house?
Yeah.
austen fleccas fletcher
That's just generally speaking.
You're not talking about anyone specific.
It's just generally.
elijah schaffer
No, but like with women in general.
No, I don't even realize.
With kids, the only reason why I think kids need to learn about periods is because then they need to realize like their moms.
Like it's like, oh, your mom doesn't hit you.
It's just that you'll notice there's this time of the month that she gets extra mad at you and there's like you left you left your boxes on the floor in the bathroom and you're thinking, I know, I didn't think that was a problem.
And you're like, why is my mom yelling at me like a kid?
And then someone just said, hey, son, your mom's not mentally sane.
If you're not careful, she might dump a bucket of diarrhea on your head too.
unidentified
Holy.
austen fleccas fletcher
Or if she was dad, she could have the same problems.
If she was dad, Mike, what do you think?
elijah schaffer
Mike's blending in back there.
Extra light.
It's true.
unidentified
It just makes no sense because you would think that feminists would be all over this.
Like, no, like, you can't be part of this because we're real women, but they're like, they're nowhere to be found.
Because the whole feminist movement is about being like exclusive to like women's rights and females and females sticking together and we're against men.
And then it's like, well, men can be women too.
And they're like, okay.
elijah schaffer
It's disgusting.
And trans and non-binary men belong?
Disgusting.
No, they don't.
Sorry.
They don't.
I'm not inclusive that way.
unidentified
What's non-binary?
elijah schaffer
There's no trans men don't exist.
It's not a real thing.
You can be a transgender through a medical diagnosis and actually have this disassociative disorder, which I'll admit is there.
I mean, the fact is, if people are throwing diarrhea on people's heads, I can believe that someone thinks they're the wrong gender.
I can believe it.
What if I accept it?
austen fleccas fletcher
What if that person with the diarrhea dumping, what if he was like, oh, I identify these diarrhea as flowers, and everyone's like, well, it's flowers.
Like, you can't be that upset.
And the lady's like, oh, a guy dumped flowers on my head and it went in my mouth.
I mean, that's like, there might be a loophole there.
elijah schaffer
Non-bowel men.
austen fleccas fletcher
Might be some arbitration.
I think that's true.
elijah schaffer
Oh, that was pretty good.
I missed it, though.
That's true.
So, you know, I think they're the losers of the day.
And this is the alphabet people thing.
Like, this is my no, I don't like what how the how the Groiper society that we were talking about earlier says like you can't be gay in the conservative movement.
It's like, okay, I don't agree with that.
I do, I get what they're pushing, like, oh, don't push your lifestyle on people.
Fine, go.
I agree with that too.
But also, like, I will say this.
I think everyone can agree that the LGBTQ community, this is why you're saying they can't be gay in the community.
There are people that wake up from the community and go, these people are crazy.
They're like militant.
And then they don't know where to go.
And it's like, what are we going to just let them like commit suicide in some room?
Like, it's like, no, come over here.
If you believe these values and you see that, like, they've indoctrinated all these homosexual people into this weird military that's activists and trying to shut down everybody who disagrees, that's fine because you can help point out the fact that not everyone like that thinks like that.
Like, you can show, hey, other, there's free-thinking people, and that you don't have just because your sexuality is one way, you don't have to be controlled by this group who's trying to suck your soul out.
And that's what these people do.
It's disgusting.
They write this stuff.
I was not even on the screen.
They write this stuff as if we should accept it.
Like, it's like they say it because they live in a bubble and people are like, this is a good.
Someone said this is a good idea.
unidentified
Somebody sent this from San Francisco.
I'm convinced.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
No, someone wrote this.
Like, someone's like, okay.
And okay.
austen fleccas fletcher
And yeah, and they're lit mistesting.
And this goes over pretty well.
And then it's going to be like, pedophiles is a sexual orientation.
Like, non-acting pedophiles aren't a threat.
Like, that kind of stuff.
And it's going to be like, okay, everyone's going to say, okay, and scroll right by.
And then it's going to be, I think, right?
We get zapped into the sky, go to heaven, everyone else burns here.
unidentified
The rapture?
Not exactly the theology that I would go for, but is that what's going to happen?
elijah schaffer
Like, we're getting close.
austen fleccas fletcher
We're getting close, right?
Really quick, really quick.
Can I add one more joke?
Of course.
My favorite part of this whole Groyper War thing has been Charlie Kirk is getting protested outside of his events by the left from people who are like, Charlie only believes there's two genders.
He hates trans people.
And then the people on the right inside are like, Charlie Kirk's promoting a gay agenda.
He wants drag queens.
And it's like, which one is it?
That's been my funniest, like, ooh, interesting, interesting team.
elijah schaffer
They always take each other out of context.
Like, someone takes a thing Nick Funtes said in a joke and then uses it to bash him.
And then someone takes like a picture of Lady MAGA, who was probably at some meet and greet that just like everyone takes a picture with Charlie.
Look at this.
He's promoting drag queens.
Everyone takes each other out of context.
They're like, they're all taking us out of context.
It's like, well, maybe you guys are all just looking rather to win rather than actually find the truth.
And maybe that's the real problem.
austen fleccas fletcher
And we are so, I got, when everyone was like, oh, Charlie promotes a trans agenda, the trans agenda, blah, blah, blah.
I was like, oh, damn.
Like, I did a whole video where I wore a dress and lipstick.
And I was like, oh, that's probably not.
They're not going to like that.
elijah schaffer
They don't get the joke.
Like, if you, if you, if Hunter Avalon put on lipstick, whatever, like, says the guy who put on lipstick in his video, it's like, dude, every newscaster puts on makeup.
The president does.
Like when they go to speak.
It's like, it's like, yes, putting on makeup to feel sexy is one thing as a joke is another thing.
And it's like, they just, they don't have a sense of humor.
I'm sorry.
They don't.
austen fleccas fletcher
No sense of humor.
And they used to be allowed to do that.
Rudy Giuliani did a sketch with Donald Trump like 20 years ago where he was wearing a dress and lipstick and it was funny.
Like that's what it is.
Like comedy.
It's like, I'm not like, hey guys, let's go try being gay today.
Like go kissing.
elijah schaffer
I'm putting on lipstick today to show you how you can do your lipstick like me too.
Clearly showing you.
austen fleccas fletcher
Let's teach this to the kids.
It's not what's going on.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
So let's end on this.
I like to end on this.
Favorite thing from this week that went on?
What was your favorite moment?
We'll start with Jamie.
unidentified
Oh my God, favorite moment.
elijah schaffer
Do you want me to wait for it to go to you?
Do you want to time think about it?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Go around.
elijah schaffer
Austin, you thought about this, right?
What's your favorite thing to do?
austen fleccas fletcher
I saw a video of a guy with a fat bulldog and the guy goes, You were snoring pretty bad last night.
If you don't snore tonight, I'll take you to the beach tomorrow.
Deal?
And the bulldog's like, yeah.
That was my favorite thing.
The bulldog had like a human expression of like, yeah, like that's a good thing.
elijah schaffer
Can you get me that picture so we could like the video?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Okay, this is something I did.
So I was just in Georgia.
I was covering the Dream Hack tournament, which is like this huge digital gaming festival.
And I really enjoyed seeing hundreds of all the nerds just like going crazy watching just screens, like screens of people playing games on them.
Like it was literally like a sporting event.
Like they had commentators and there's just hundreds of kids just like screaming for these players.
elijah schaffer
What was your favorite thing?
unidentified
That was my favorite thing.
elijah schaffer
An eventful week for you, huh?
unidentified
No, it was amazing.
elijah schaffer
Are you sure?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Because I think there could be something better.
Did you eat a popsicle this week?
unidentified
Are you serious?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, no, I'm not joking.
It's an esport arena.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I'm judging your character right now.
unidentified
No, esports is cool.
It sets to surpass all major sports leagues except for the NFL in 2024.
elijah schaffer
That's actually true.
Drone racing is a big thing, too.
I saw drone racing.
That was actually pretty cool.
I'll take back my mean statement.
unidentified
Yeah, esports is cool, guys.
elijah schaffer
But I didn't know if there was a meme.
I saw a meme that was better than that.
It was like a baby monkey in baby's clothes reaching out and it just said like, me when I get home from work and see my girl's booty.
That was better than that.
I mean, that was like pretty good.
I related.
unidentified
My bad, Elijah.
I'm better prepared.
elijah schaffer
I know, I was like, no, it was pretty good.
He was like a baby monkey.
I was like, I feel, yeah, I relate.
That's not my favorite thing this week.
unidentified
Oh, I heard that ASAP Rocky was brought up in the impeachment hearings.
I think that's pretty funny.
elijah schaffer
That is pretty funny.
Also, I would say Fartgate's my top for the week.
austen fleccas fletcher
Fartgate is so disgusting.
elijah schaffer
Eric Swalwell farted on camera.
austen fleccas fletcher
Disgusting.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I saw that.
elijah schaffer
He's got poop buttons.
He's got liquid shards coming out of his butt.
austen fleccas fletcher
It's like, no matter what side you're on politically, I know you do have a bipartisan way of going about this.
You have to be kind of respectful to Chris Matthews.
It's his show.
He's been doing it for like, what, 30 years, 40 years?
And you're going to go in there and just do like a no one's ever done something like this.
It's disgusting.
elijah schaffer
He should have just been like, oh, I just got paid by Taco Bell.
He should plugged an ad and got money out of it.
It said, this is a Taco Bell ad because everybody knows.
unidentified
Gas accent that Taco Bell is so worth it.
elijah schaffer
Even farting on TV, you'll take the risk.
Taco Bell.
Taco Bell makes you poop and fart.
It's like coffee.
It's like coffee in a tortilla.
austen fleccas fletcher
Coffee's worse.
unidentified
Coffee is very, yeah.
austen fleccas fletcher
Coffee, you can just order like, hey, I could have a large iced coffee and you're like, ooh.
elijah schaffer
You and I are just like slightly unhealthy.
That's what I was wondering.
I was like, maybe you and I just are like not healthy.
austen fleccas fletcher
Yeah, if you like look at the food I eat in a day and like put it into a pile and then just like, yep, this is what you put in today, it's like it's probably pretty bad.
elijah schaffer
This goes in you.
austen fleccas fletcher
That's a good way to.
I should look at it differently.
I should be seeing like more greens and like vegetables and like teeth.
unidentified
That's a vegan burger from Burger King.
austen fleccas fletcher
I'm a Big Don's guy.
I'm a McDonald's guy.
elijah schaffer
McDonald's.
All right, favorite thing.
Yeah, I think Fartgate, so I'm just going to say, we're going to go around the one with this.
Did he really fart on live TV?
I say yes.
austen fleccas fletcher
100% yes.
elijah schaffer
Do you know about the fart gate?
unidentified
Yeah, I didn't see it, but I saw the tweet.
I just didn't click on the video, so that was cool.
He pooped.
elijah schaffer
He farted.
unidentified
He sharted?
austen fleccas fletcher
He sounded like, and then we're back to the poop.
unidentified
He literally sharted.
elijah schaffer
We started with poop.
We ended pooping.
austen fleccas fletcher
And this is a separate segment.
I would say, what, 60% of the show has been about poop stuff?
elijah schaffer
It's really good.
Hey, guys, this is really good stuff.
austen fleccas fletcher
For those of you that listen to me, we haven't done a sample and sample people.
Is that what they want?
elijah schaffer
Well, I was thinking, I was like, why are the better stuff coming in the second segment?
And then I realized, actually, it's not bad because it's like now I can actually with a straight face, I can say, actually, you really should subscribe to the Blaze or download the audio because honestly, you're missing out on the best stuff.
austen fleccas fletcher
And the Blaze higher-ups are watching and like, please don't bug the channel now.
He's like, watch the Blaze.
Get more of this poop.
elijah schaffer
Poop out of your head and HIV state and nothing's controversial today.
We're talking about diarrhea, the most graper roars and people that are fighting each other, as well as alphabet P.
This is pretty offensive.
unidentified
It spent in so many directions.
elijah schaffer
Well, that's what the show should be.
How are we looking on time?
We're going to wrap it up right here.
All right, guys, thank you again.
For those of you guys that stuck around on audio only, please always make sure you check out the links again below.
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And journalism is alive.
I want to thank Jamie, of course, as well.
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Have a great rest of the day.
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