The West Has Fallen | Guest: Katie Hopkins | Ep 41
It’s not a secret. People are insane, and they are destroying the fabric of what makes the West so great. Katie Hopkins sits down with me to discuss the weird, comical, and downright scary progression of our Western societies.
Yeah, well, the short hair thing because of short hair.
And Americans get really confused really quickly, as you're demonstrating.
And so people used to go, oh, she's a speaker and a conservative thing, but she's got short hair and she looks a bit like a footballer.
So she must be one of them.
So I used to start my speeches by going, I'm not this, I'm not that, I'm not this.
And I'm not even a lesbian.
And then the room would have like this really nervous laugh because you knew they thought you were a lesbian and they would go, oh, in a sort of, oh yeah, that was me.
Relief she's not a lesbian.
She's not going to try and do something to me that I don't want her to do.
So that would be the really weird, nervous laughter.
Okay, well, speaking of that, I mean, well, If you were, speaking of being a lesbian, that's actually, so there's kind of actually this like terrible joke.
So one time I worked with this guy who was doing my clothing and he told me, hey, like.
And he says, oh, wouldn't it be interesting if you actually asked people in public to accept you as a gay black woman and see what their answers would be?
And people really in public told me they would accept that identity, like that genuinely out here.
One woman, I asked her as far as I said, if I said I was a bicycle, would you accept my physical?
That was my regular, that was a speaking engagement, but I am pretty funny.
So you mistook it.
You mistook it for stand-up, I guess.
But no, I wouldn't do lame things like ask people if they accept me that it feels really passe that whole you can be accepted forever, whatever you want to be thing.
So, people have, obviously, all the names in the book.
This is like not abnormal to you, but you get called all the fun complimentary names: racist, xenophobic, anti-immigrant, you know, discriminatory white supremacists, white nationalists.
It's like the show sometimes demoralizes down to a point where like we're in the middle of shooting like right now.
And I just go like, I question, I question the fans of the show sometimes and the fact that they consume this stuff and they love it.
But in the end, I realize that it's actually kind of brilliant because having you on, we have literally talked about nothing for 20 minutes, 15 minutes?
But I want to talk about some interesting people like to hear.
You don't care about talking about inflammatory topics.
This show doesn't care either about what we talk about.
But I'll tell you this.
So you get called this all these types of things.
But in my opinion, and this is a broad statement, I feel like Western culture has degraded so much across the spectrum.
I mean, I was just, I mean, when you watch, for instance, even if it's fiction, like about, or like, I guess kind of fiction on Netflix about the Queen and this British society and the way things used to work.
And then you look at London now.
I mean, London looks like a third world country.
In fact, it's gotten so insane.
It's like we don't even know what we are as the West anymore.
And I know that because of that, you've been hyper-critical of, you've been hyper-critical of the unrestrained immigration in England.
But one thing that was interesting to me is you talk a lot about Islam, or at least you have in the past, maybe not now.
And you've made some remarks, but I've noticed that the difference between here and England is it seems like under Trump, extreme Islamic terrorism or whatever the left likes to call it, basically just Muslims doing their good bidding, we've caught the religion of peace here.
But it's kind of like not really an issue right now in the United States, even though it seems to be a sick issue still in the UK.
Yeah, you guys have got it pretty much under control and it's a brilliant thing.
And I completely admire America and everything Trump has done.
A big pledge to kiss 64 million Americans who put Trump into power.
It's an incredible thing.
But we are still very much, you know, in the thrall of the Islamists in the UK.
We invited back jihadis who'd been fighting in Syria to come back to our country.
And we put them at the front of the line for school places.
We put them at the front of the line for housing.
We had an attack just the other day on London Bridge where a guy rehabilitated came out with a knife and started stabbing people, stabbed two kids to death on London Bridge.
This happens all the time and we're still not allowed to talk about it.
There is a prescribed narrative that we have to follow, which is, oh, you know, a vigil, thoughts and prayers.
We carry on as normal and that's absolute bullshit.
And we are required to be cautious.
The police will come out and the first thing they'll say is the thing we need to watch out for now at this difficult time is Islamophobia.
And it's like, no, we need to watch out for Muslims with knives stabbing our kids.
Like that's actually what we need to watch out for.
So we have that as a problem.
And the difference, I think the main difference between the UK and America, apart from the fact you have good customer service, different varieties of food to eat, generally have good drinks, but not here.
But the main difference between the UK and America is that we are outnumbered, like increasingly.
So within 10 years, 2035, Muslim births outnumber births to all other.
So births to Muslim babies are far in excess of any other.
And by 2045, I'm a minority in my own country.
So by in 10 years, this is the last 10 years.
This is the golden age of Britain.
And then we're gone.
So that's the serious kind of behind all of this.
It's the serious message is time's running out for us in the UK.
But there is still time for America to save itself.
And actually, that's the reason I'm here in America is to is to push that message hard as we get to the November elections because you don't want to become like us.
It's like, first of all, I get why they call you xenophobic and bigoted, because when I think about the fact that you're like afraid of having your country turn Muslim, you think of all the rich, beautiful Muslim countries around the world right now, and you just wonder why you don't want England to be like, I don't know, like Yemen or Saudi Arabia, you know what I mean?
And also, in the regard of not wanting to be beaten up by my husband on a sort of hourly basis or have to cover my face just because some other guy says I should.
Or the fact that majority Pakistani Muslim rape squads have raped 19,000 of our young kids, young white kids in 2018.
But the hackers are the ones that cause the most problems because they come out with the appearance like they look like something, but they really are just that bitchy white SJW feminist in the inside.
They really are.
But then they use their dark skin color to let you know, like, not only do I not get sunburned, but also, too, I have power to take down a royal family.
And the fact that she doesn't actually appear as anything different to the rest of us, so none of us give a shit about whatever color she may or may not be.
It's the fact that in every articulation of herself, she has to say, as a woman of colour, and as a woman of colour.
But what it makes me more susceptible to is on your.
So Americans also have this weird thing of wanting to always carry their luggage with them on the plane.
Like it's as if you guys haven't worked out there's a thing called the hold where people can put baggage.
And so when you go on a plane journey, it doesn't matter where you're going, you always have to decide to like put all of your suitcases with you on the plane.
So you go along and everyone knows no one's going to fit.
Everyone knows no one's going to get all their luggage on.
Everyone has to have a cardiac about it.
Everyone has to have some kind of hissy fit.
Anyhow.
But when you guys get off after you've reached whatever destination the hell you're trying to get to, you get up there in these things and you start going, foot oink, foot onk, hit all the wheels.
Okay, now imagine being me on that plane with no skull.
I dread doing internal flights in the States because you guys are just, you don't give a crap where your luggage is going to crash down.
And so I spend my time like this until you get off.
Anywho, that was my sidebar story about my brain being exposed.
Just disrespectful, but that's the whole point about not caring about a little bit about the Western cultures.
Like you have this mass immigration and these things in certain countries, which I think we do have it under control.
But then you have these people, and you find out when it really comes down to it.
Meghan Markle, of all the things she can do, she's basically shit on two different countries at the same time.
She comes and she's proud that she undermined the royalty, which is, which is, I know for Americans, we really don't care about the British royal family.
It's just, we don't.
But I know that it's important to the British people.
I know that it's a very, very big, big thing over there.
From my understanding, I met British people and they like the royalty for the most part.
And her husband, Prince Philip, 97, 98, still walking about, still rocking it, still having car accidents.
Brilliant.
And we love them.
We love them.
And we don't want, it's just like a parent.
You don't want something bad to happen to them.
And so Megan and Harry coming back going, we're going to take a step back and screw you without even going to see the Queen and have the respect to say, listen, this is what we're planning.
They didn't even do that.
They went straight to the press.
And that's where we feel kind of, that's where I feel angry at them.
Is it because I think it really is when you're talking about the colours?
Because she's an American.
And I think what people don't understand is that America right now is like 13 different countries.
It really is.
Yes, it's not really a unified place where people think the same across the country.
It's very clear.
And there's only a few major geopolitical places in the United States that control almost all of the just crazy stuff coming out of the left.
If you look at almost any insane proceeding investigation, you'll find on the board on the chairman, they're either from San Francisco, from Los Angeles, or from New York.
Sometimes Vermont, sometimes Massachusetts, but for the most part, it comes from like three cities in the entire union are our crazy people.
And Megan Markle, she's from Hollywood.
And you know, Hollywood is probably the smartest people in the world and they have the best opinions that we should all listen to.
But her going in there, to me, honestly, that's when you realize that the war after the Cold War really is not against countries.
It's about culture.
It's about faith.
It's about tradition.
Because this one American woman, it's like she hates America just as much as she hates the UK.
Which is the perfect trait of a Democrat, isn't it?
Can you hate America the most?
Can you be the most hateful about the country that's given you opportunity?
And that parallel, we have so many parallels between your country and mine.
But this parallel of this one place or these two places speaking for your country is the same for us.
You know, we have London speaking for the UK.
And I always describe my country as two countries, London and a great place, a great little place I know called the rest of the UK, where really good people live, people that voted for Brexit, that voted for Boris Johnson.
You know, whereas London is the domain of that little London mayor, Sadiq Khan, who is not obviously my favorite person, not only because he's short, but also because he's Muslim.
These MPs and these people are so wicked and evil inside the UK.
I'm not like, and I saw a data to Tommy, first of all.
Like, Tommy was trying to call out pedos and like rapists and they came against him.
But also with this whole Epstein thing, and you realize how many powerful people are literally dogging kids, you realize how corrupt these people actually genuinely.
And I don't, I don't know.
You're not, do you consider yourself particularly religious?
And they come after anybody who loves the country, anybody who's against UN's global plan for, I mean, I think it's the UN, to be completely honest, but I know people have considered you to be conspiracy theorists because of your views of the replacement of white populations in countries.
And also your belief.
They called it a conspiracy theory online.
It said, you believe in a conspiracy theory called the killing of white South African farmers?
It's like when I'm there, they're literally being stabbed, macheted, raped, tortured for hours.
You know, they're not just people.
The South African police try and file this genocide of the whites that I absolutely believe is happening.
They try and file it under a robbery, you know, or home burglary that went wrong.
Whereas in reality, these white farmers, often the wives are strung up for hours.
They're burnt with things.
They have hot water thrown on them.
They go and get the heating iron from the cupboard and they brand the women.
I mean, this is, it's vindictive.
It's retribution.
It's kind of some kind of horrific cleansing of the wrong colored skin.
And yeah, I was called a, I get called a conspiracy theorist for that.
I've been banned from South Africa because of my reporting on that.
I was held at the airport, detained, not allowed to leave the country.
So, you know, this is the penalty that we incur.
In fact, Tommy Robinson's judge, the judge that sent him to prison, he recently dispatched two police officers to a home, plainclothes police officers, to a home that I don't own.
I don't own anything anymore.
I've had to give everything up to a home that has my family in.
They waited for the adult, my husband.
He wouldn't call himself an adult, but he was out and the men came to the door and intimidated the kids.
And the warning was, if you don't stop speaking about the Pakistani rape squads, then we will pursue contempt of court charges against you.
So this happens in my country in the night at a home.
They'll come to your door, they'll knock on your door, and the warning is stop, or you'll go into prison as well.
And so that's why you going to Virginia for me, you sent me a nice email saying, I'm really sorry.
Yeah, and my response to you was, you know, I'm really proud of you.
I'm proud that you're going.
I'm proud that you guys are bothering to go.
And the reason that I'm so genuine in that is that because of your Second Amendment, you have your first.
So where I'm sitting, I'm getting knocks in the night on a house I don't own because I can't own a house because it will be taken from me to protect my children.
I need to disappear myself.
And then I have you go into Virginia to, as I see it, help bolster the Second Amendment rights of Americans.
And that really matters to me because that is the front line.
Virginia is the front line of your defense of freedom, I think.
Like, you know, people, I was actually sitting on my way to Virginia next to a attorney who was for, he's an attorney for Planned Parenthood.
Really, you know, class, class act right there.
You know, and it's just so interesting that when you, when you hear these, these people like AOC or this guy in the way that they're describing anyone who wants to defend the Second Amendment as if like they're basically like traitors or they're terrorists.
AOC brought up this point.
She goes, why do we see such a big police presence at a Freddie Gray, a march for Freddie Gray?
But here's the image that has struck with me the most about that, is that when we go out and march for the dignity and the recognition of the lives of people like Freddie Gray and Eric Garner, the whole place is surrounded by police in riot gear without a gun in sight.
And here are all of these people flying Confederate flags with semi-automatic weapons and there's almost no police officers.
They actually burned down their entire city and they were like shooting people.
So that's why there was riots.
And she claimed that this was a clear sign because they want to attack the Second Amendment.
The Second Amendment is really about white supremacy and really about white superiority because look at how few police there were at this 2A rally, which by the way, I want to point out there was hundreds, hundreds of hundreds, but also the media lied.
There wasn't 22,000 people there.
There was like 30 or more thousand at least being there.
And there was what, no shootings, no deaths, which makes you wonder if really, truly the attack, even this whole white supremacy thing is really them just trying to disarm the American people.
That's what they're coming to.
People think it's an attack on white people alone, but it's like a two-way street to me because you can attack white people and that's sure, but you're not going to get so far as long as they have guns.
So ultimately, you have to disarm them in order to win the battle here.
Now, whether an event happens by itself or is antagonized to the point that an event happens, or whether an event is put in play by deep state, who knows?
But they are coming.
When Democrats get any form of control, that's the first thing that's going to go here is your guns, for sure.
So if we take the parallel of the mosque shooting that happened, horrific shooting in a mosque in New Zealand.
So a gunman went in, just blasted a congregation or whatever you call them, a gathering in a mosque.
He recorded the whole thing.
The camera work on it actually was really sophisticated.
But anyway, the first thing that was done in New Zealand was that there was a government buyback of weapons.
Now, that's a misnomer right there because the government never purchased them in the first place.
So there's no buying back if you never bought them.
Or in South Africa, if you speak to any white South African, they'll say, you know, you never hand in your arms because they've seen after apartheid they had to hand in their weapons.
Those weapons are now being used against them as they're being genocided off their land.
So my big fear is it's only, and you know, it's only going to take one state to go and then the domino is right across America.
They're so strict and you know that they don't care about protection of their people because, you know, I have known death threats all my life.
I've been assaulted many times in public.
I work a very dangerous job and I'm in a position to where it's like, I mean, I'm not saying this matters for anything, but I work with a big company.
It's not this random guy.
I can have people vouch for me.
Corporations write in letters to try to get a concealed carry permit or have some ability to carry a firearm, which is my God-given right here.
But California, Los Angeles area only, I think, gave out last year 17 concealed carry permits only to like certain people through political means.
Meaning, even though it's not illegal federally, certain regions like California or Los Angeles specifically have made it almost impossible to exercise your right.
And in fact, like I even, I've even showed them, I have, I have cases.
Like I've been robbed while I was home, while I was home.
I've had my car grand theft autoed before.
Welcome to living in LA, right?
And I've been robbed before in public.
I'm not going to mention the races or ethnicities of any of these people who committed these crimes, but I'm just going to let you know that there was consistent things across the board.
And I have reasons, I have reasons to believe that I work in a lot of areas and I need to be armed.
And they just say, no, you can't be armed because it's what?
I'm too dangerous to own a weapon.
And they've already violated my Second Amendment here.
And if you try to come against them here, in fact, you can't because it's a Democrat supermajority in California.
There's no way to get our rights back in California.
Just any, any when people go, yeah, I'm carrying or, you know, I carry.
I'm just like, that's hot.
It is hot.
Men with weapons are hot.
That's just, take it from a haggard old lady.
This is just the truth.
But I will say, so out in Redlands and Murieta, you know, there's guys there who say that every time the Democrats make a move on restricting gun usage or restricting permits, they go out and they buy another five.
And people in Texas that are now creating arms cash in their homes, in their land, so that when the time comes, if there ever does come a time where they have to make some kind of stand for their rights, that's what they plan to do.
There's some people here who have quite a few firearms.
Is it 10 people?
No, I'm, no, I can't say I'm telling, I know what's going to happen.
Imagine if there's an earthquake here.
But imagine if there's an earthquake here in Los Angeles.
Think about this.
People wonder if Western cultures collapse of politeness, of civility.
And I go, imagine if there's just an earthquake in LA and the water lines break.
This is going to be the scariest place to live in the entire world.
I mean, there is, what, over 10 million people living here right now?
And there's like one to two, more than that.
There's one to two million illegal immigrants.
So there's already like a couple million people.
We have no idea anything about who they are.
And that's probably a rough, soft estimate.
It's probably a lot more than that.
Plus, we have like some of the most violent notorious gangs here, including MS-13, different types of things that go on here.
I mean, if you just want to see what Western culture degrades, cut off the water to LA for 30 days in like a 9.0 earthquake, I can guarantee you that the civil war would start right here.
Yeah, but you are, you are, but you are very well known because you don't hold back on what you say.
And so a lot of times, you know how it is, people have to hold back because whatever, even YouTube makes it very hard for like YouTubers and different people.
Now, now you've made it where you can't even make fun of people now on YouTube.
I mean, I still do it, but I mean, they say you can't.
And so it's like they've, you know, because I've heard they actually changed their rules by pressuring and lobbying by British MPs.
Anything now that is regarded in any way, if you perceive that it is harmful to you, this perception word has made everything harm.
But the only way I've got there is by giving, well, not giving up everything.
I didn't volunteer to give up anything, actually.
But yeah, I was the columnist at Mail Online with Piers Morgan.
I had the Sunday show, the radio show in London on LBC.
I was known in that way.
All of those things were taken.
Those jobs were removed for various reasons, none of which were real.
And so I lost all my platforms.
And yet, I guess I remain known because people have been kind enough to seek me out, or they like what I used to do, or they remember me from when I had those platforms.
I haven't changed my views or opinions.
It's just that the world is shifting so fast to the left and so fast to a place where you can no longer speak.
The silencing is overwhelming.
And also, people in the UK have learned and they've schooled it well.
You don't want to become like her.
You don't want to become like Katie.
You don't want to lose your home, your jobs, have your kids taken, maybe have people come after your head.
You know, the government ran a play called The Assassination of Katie Hopkins.
It was a play that was funded by the British government.
no but i appreciate it and i think and i because of the time constraints on the show um which is my travel home because i have to get home before i'm not survive yeah Yeah.
But I will say, just in all of that being said, for those of you that don't know who Katie Hopkins is.
Well, I'll do a cold open this so people don't realize it's like it'll cold open when all I'm like yeah, people don't need to they'll, they'll figure you out.
But check her out.
I don't need to give her too much of an introduction, but she's uh made made, became in the spotlight from my understanding through the apprentice uh, which you are a bit of a firebrand.
You got into business.
You ended up writing for the SUN different types of things.
You moved in, you got Daily MAIL, UK whatever.
Got fired here and there for being too honest um, the whole shebang.
But then now you're here um, on this show, which really means your career fell apart, like It really does.
It means like you're in a bad place in your life if you've come down to this level.
Yeah, I go, like, no, but there's like these moments, like, like the other day, I was at the women's march, and this guy's on a megaphone, he goes, when are we going to stop?
Or when are immigrants going to stop dying from the flu?