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Jan. 5, 2021 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Beautiful Girls Roast Feminist Art | Ep 46

Feminist artwork is gross; these girls are not. I invited Kez and Grace into the studio to discuss the weird and gross world of postmodern feminist art.

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unidentified
First one to go viral is this one here that says, his opinion does not define you.
And I found that of my drawings, it's always the ones with sort of the simplest image that tend to be shared the most.
This one's been shared over 420,000 times on Tumblr.
I'm a Montreal-based artist, and I work under the pseudonym Ambivalently Yours.
Most of my work is online, illustration-based, and it has feminist inspiration and lots of pink.
The internet can be a pretty volatile place, so I was afraid of what speaking up as a feminist artist, what that would do in terms of backlash.
I didn't want to censor myself just because I was afraid.
So I thought that being anonymous was sort of a way to give myself permission to be a bit more daring in my art.
elijah schaffer
The internet is a volatile place, and you should be afraid of the backlash you're going to get, especially from shows like this.
This is slightly offensive, and today we are roasting the weird and wacky world of feminist artwork.
So I found myself once again in the weird parts of the internet, and I'm not talking about gay porn.
I'm talking about something much darker and worse.
I'm talking about feminist artwork, which is at an all-time high.
It is infecting kids everywhere faster than the coronavirus itself.
And believe it or not, if you watch your local news, kids are doing it at an even younger age.
It is weird.
It is strange.
And my guests today, of course, are Grace Saldanya.
Welcome to the show.
unidentified
Thank you.
Welcome.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
Well, you're welcoming me.
Oh, hey, happy to be here, Grace.
Thanks for inviting me on.
And I also have Kez from the YouTube channel, CroxOn as well.
Thanks for coming on again.
kezia schaffer
Thank you.
elijah schaffer
All right, before we jump into this insane world, I want to remind you guys that this podcast and all of our street videos are made possible by Blaze TV, and it is so helpful.
If you want to go ahead and sign up at Blaze TV using the codes in the description, Elijah, you get $10 off.
It helps fund everything we do.
When YouTube bounced out and demonetized us during the great Crowdergate, Blaze TV stepped in and has provided us with all the necessary tools and staff we need to keep the show going.
Everything that your heart could desire.
That being said, today's episode is disgusting and it is gross.
And it is, for those of you that are sick, welcome to the show.
So I brought on two lovely guests here to try to offset the images so it's a little easier on the eyes.
For the viewers, we'll do our best as well.
So I'm going to start, we're going to jump right into the artwork, just right into it.
Right into the weird world of artwork.
And this is our first image.
unidentified
Wow.
elijah schaffer
Here.
kezia schaffer
Curtains.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I don't know.
What's going on, Grace?
What do you see?
Tell the listener-only audience what you're looking at here.
unidentified
What is this?
elijah schaffer
She's having a hard time, folks.
unidentified
Look at something pretty spicy, I think.
It's pretty artwork.
What is this?
I think it's an abstract version of a vagina, I think.
elijah schaffer
Are these pantyhose?
kezia schaffer
Do you know what it looks like to me?
unidentified
They look like boxers, maybe?
elijah schaffer
Are they boxer briefs?
unidentified
They're turned into different shapes.
No, I know what they are.
They look like clutches.
Oh, yeah.
kezia schaffer
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Like they're opened up.
elijah schaffer
Oh, so these are like vaginal purses.
unidentified
Something like that.
kezia schaffer
It looks like a game, like a fair where you put your hand in a hole and you have to feel around and guess, okay, this is a this.
And then you guess and you have to like, it's like a guessing game to me.
elijah schaffer
Well, I just want to know who's getting involved with that red vagina.
If I saw a vagina that was red like that, I would call either the doctor or I would say there's a cleanup on aisle seven.
So on a one through ten, what do we rate?
What do we rate this one?
kezia schaffer
This is bad.
Anyone can do this.
It's a piece of fabric just like folded and then stuck.
It's a clutch.
unidentified
Like negative.
kezia schaffer
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
So it's bad artwork.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
Clutch vagina artwork.
We're done.
Okay.
So speaking of that, there's another form of artwork that you're familiar with.
There are these, these like usefulness.
kezia schaffer
Do I do in my study?
elijah schaffer
Well, look.
There are these.
They're these like weird.
Like they all look the same.
The artwork does.
And it has these blanket quotes for people.
It kind of preaches to you of what you should be or be not.
And it says, it has this woman here, right?
She looks like she has like a little bit of like, she has like smallpox or something going on.
And it says, be a community activist, not a white savior.
Grace, break down.
What does that mean?
unidentified
It sounds like liberals coaching liberals to not look like they have white guilt.
elijah schaffer
I mean, do we know the skin color of the woman's clearly white?
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
She's a white woman.
unidentified
Yeah, she's white.
kezia schaffer
Is a wait.
Just to just to clarify, someone who's a white savior is someone who stands up for people of color.
Yes or no?
elijah schaffer
It's people like you who stand up for people like me.
kezia schaffer
Okay, so anyone who's a person of color, you're on your own.
I'm not standing up for you anymore.
elijah schaffer
Right, right.
Because you had to be a community activist.
Don't save.
Oh, don't be a white savior, meaning don't try to feel good about yourself because you're white and you're helping people of color.
Even though white people are people of color, you know about this.
We just have less of it.
And in fact, our shades are pink.
kezia schaffer
I'm a very colorful person.
I've got freckles.
I'm brown and white.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
I'm speckled.
kezia schaffer
Yeah, speckled.
elijah schaffer
I'm a speckled individual.
So look at that.
Look, what's really weird about this artwork, it's always quoted with some weird stuff on the side.
It talks about something about network and the stream to talk about colonialism, but a typical anti-black Al Jazeera never saw an arrow.
kezia schaffer
I love the squiggles.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, this sounds like a great person to be on a date.
So what are you going to rate this one one through ten?
kezia schaffer
This wasn't, I don't think it was very original.
elijah schaffer
It had a good meaning, though.
I had a good message.
kezia schaffer
It definitely made you think about it, dive a little deeper.
But I think the artwork overall is sort of basic.
I think the purses before took a little bit more creativity to make them.
This doesn't look as creative.
unidentified
I think it's propaganda.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so you're adding it with propaganda.
Yeah, I label this one propaganda here.
It doesn't get rating.
So this next one, I don't know if it's going to be blurred on your YouTube, but it's not censored on Instagram.
Did you notice for some reason the feminist artwork is obsessed with weird-looking women's bodies, like stretch marks, cellulite?
kezia schaffer
Because they're normalizing it.
They're trying to normalize it.
That all woman, it doesn't matter what you have, disease, shape, shape, size, color, your missing parts.
elijah schaffer
But why are we painting always?
Why is it always fat people and people of color?
kezia schaffer
They're a bit insecure about it and they want to normalize it so that it's not like when you see it, you go, oh, what the heck?
unidentified
But if they see it all the time, then they don't want to feel bad when they see a Victoria Secret model.
kezia schaffer
Right.
elijah schaffer
But who's looking at fat women's stretch marks?
I ain't trying to do that.
You said they want to feel bad when you're looking at it.
It's like, I'm clearly one of those people who's not looking at it.
unidentified
They feel bad about themselves.
I don't know if you're not either better looking people.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so they're saying like, oh, we're tired of the hot women being on the screen, so we're going to put ugly women out.
But all it does is it makes me want to throw up.
I mean, I know, and I don't mind.
unidentified
But it's not about you, it's about them to them.
elijah schaffer
Right, it's about them.
Okay, so I want to bring this up.
I want to put the fact that black people only make up 13% of the population.
If we're just taking a one out of two ratio, you're talking about something like, you know, 6.5% of the population is black.
But in every Target ad, every commercial on TV, and as well as every feminist artwork, there are about 60% of the people.
Major overrepresentation.
So this is one I really liked.
I want to dissect what's going on here.
kezia schaffer
Oh.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
kezia schaffer
Wow.
That is, this one, they really put a lot of effort into do all the different pictures.
unidentified
This says everything goes no matter what.
kezia schaffer
Yeah, nobody's left out.
unidentified
Even like trupple thrupples?
elijah schaffer
Right, he has a thrupple at the top.
kezia schaffer
That's awesome.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
elijah schaffer
That's really nice.
So there's this weird thing where they put up people's naked bodies.
But what I noticed here is that most people have hairy legs.
And there's also the nice little down here.
I don't think you can see it on the screen there, but there's a nice little gay couple with the pink hair.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Are you attracted to men with pink hair?
unidentified
Not particularly.
I usually like normal guys that have like, you know, normal hair, but, you know, if a guy wants to dye his hair pink, then, you know, whatever.
elijah schaffer
Right.
What's going on down here in the corner?
Where is she doing with that brush?
kezia schaffer
No, no, that's not a hairbrush.
That's, okay, I've seen these ones before.
It's a mirror because it's always check for like if you have like an STD or something.
So they put a little mirror.
elijah schaffer
She's checking in her little shipping.
She's Shiwana Chani.
kezia schaffer
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Oh, yikes.
unidentified
No, but maybe she's just getting familiar with herself.
Oh, yeah, because the little love hots are like, yeah, like self-love.
elijah schaffer
One time I got a hemorrhoid.
unidentified
It's just like feminist clip art.
elijah schaffer
Hey, one time I got a hemorrhoid.
This is graphic warning.
I did get a hemorrhoid one time.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
And I was younger, and I realized I had to go to the doctor.
And he used these little forcep things, and he spread my cheeks open.
And he just said, yep, that's a hemorrhoid.
Now, little did I know, if I looked at feminist artwork, I could have bought one of their little schwappy boo mirrors, done a little peeky boo behind.
kezia schaffer
It's just a regular old marrow.
Nothing special about it.
elijah schaffer
All right, so this is pretty good.
And we have good representation here.
I love the fact that there's the three naked women.
You know when you have a brown friend, a black friend, and a white friend, and then you all just, you know, you pop your legs naked together?
unidentified
Look at the lesbian with pink hair juggling sex toys.
elijah schaffer
Oh, is that happening?
unidentified
Yeah, look at the juggling like tampons.
kezia schaffer
No, absolutely not.
elijah schaffer
Oh, it's a yoni egg.
It's one of those eggs you pop in.
Oh, this is warning.
Yeah.
Oh, yikes.
All right, we're going to skip this one.
What would you rate this, Grace?
unidentified
I just want to say something kind of interesting about it.
Yeah.
It's just that, you know, like in ancient days, they used to like draw pictures like this of naked people and like sculptures and stuff.
But now we're considered an advanced society that doesn't do that anymore.
Why are liberals becoming regressive?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, why are we celebrating the disgusting parts of us?
unidentified
Why are we going backwards?
They're taking us back.
elijah schaffer
Get your dildo off my dildo off my four-inch.
Get your five-inch dildo off my four-inch iPhone screen.
Get that off, you know?
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
I rate it a one.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
I don't want to.
My egg head doesn't want to see your yoni egg, you know?
Get that off.
Plus, it's like, yeah, well, the girl with the pink eggs.
unidentified
Only because there's color.
kezia schaffer
I think this one's pretty cool.
elijah schaffer
You have one girl who has one nipple.
She has one nipple.
Yes.
That's a good one.
I get it four just because they took away the nipple.
Like, every nipple removed raises it three points for me.
I love people with diseases.
And the trans person in the front with the cat.
Yeah.
The scars underneath.
It's just weird, guys.
And if this episode makes you uncomfortable, I hope it does.
kezia schaffer
I follow someone on Instagram who is literally that person in the wheelchair with the scars underneath their D's.
Like in real life.
unidentified
What about the comments?
Can you...
elijah schaffer
I can't go, but...
unidentified
You can't do that?
Okay.
elijah schaffer
No, but there is one that I really like that says May Recuerdan Atus Ilustraciones, which is a really deep meaning to me.
Which I think it just says something about your drawings.
But no, I'm the budget here.
We don't have the budget to show.
All right, so there's one other thing.
So we get that.
You got a two?
You have a two?
unidentified
I gave it a one.
elijah schaffer
A one?
unidentified
I'll give it maybe a four because there's a lot, a lot of pictures.
Four.
elijah schaffer
Oh, yeah, I give it a four, two.
Okay, so then there's also this form of feminist art.
Remember, we had the other one that had the positive.
So we have, so what we went through, the kind that it's hard to understand, like they just made something out of bags.
It was wasteful.
Talk about not being climate change sensitive.
Then you have the second one, which was the kind of vague preachy quote that is like with something very awkward, usually towards white people.
Then you have the weird like sexual part where they kind of, like you said, are regressive and put that on blast.
And then you have this other part where they just straight up lie to young people.
Like this one.
Let's bring this up.
Grace, why don't you read that to our viewers probably driving in their car hating their jobs right now?
unidentified
I don't even know what that word is.
A positive dye status.
elijah schaffer
Oh, STI.
unidentified
You know what?
I say no, I'm conservative.
A positive STI.
A positive STI status is not a red flag.
elijah schaffer
You can't even read it.
kezia schaffer
I'm the dyslexic one.
Okay, a positive STI status is not a red flag when it comes to sex, dating, and relationships.
elijah schaffer
Yikes, that's a red flag.
It's like, I have active herpes.
All right, we're not sleeping together.
kezia schaffer
Right.
elijah schaffer
And it's not, it's also.
unidentified
It actually is a red flag.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
So that's, there's not much to say about that.
There's a lot of these there that it says, like, if you, I read one recently that said, if you go to sleep with a woman and she has a penis, this is the people you get mad who said she, this is what it said.
If you sleep with a woman and she has a penis, if it grosses you out, you're transphobic.
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
So like, it's like, if you don't like putting balls in your mouth as a guy, you're not straight, you're transphobic.
They're twisting the language to where like now straight is being, it's a negative thing to be straight.
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
It's like you don't want balls in your mouth.
And you know, there's a lot of people who like that, right?
Gus, our hamster, he takes all types of round nuts and shoves them in his cheeks.
And he's not even gay.
We can't even get him a woman because he would repopulate the world.
So not all people who put nuts in their mouth are gay, but there's a correlation between humans who put nuts in their mouth and at least or bisexuality.
Would you would just, this is a simple one.
STI infection, even if it was your husband, like even if they happen to go from a toilet seat, would you do the dirty deed?
Like, no.
unidentified
No.
No.
I mean, it's kind of funny that like they show this, but at the same time, they're freaking out about like coronavirus and they're all wearing masks around the airport and trying to blame the president for the spread of the coronavirus.
But then they're saying, oh, yeah, sleep with whoever, get whatever STI because it's not a bad thing.
kezia schaffer
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Don't wrap your face with a mask.
kezia schaffer
Yeah, someone else has.
Don't take into consideration the diseases that somebody has.
unidentified
Don't catch a cold.
elijah schaffer
Why is it a fat?
Why is it two fat women?
kezia schaffer
Maybe does that say something about the type of people who get STIs?
We need to replace that.
elijah schaffer
So look, we do have homosexual viewers of the show and people have all types of things.
And I don't, we're a free country, and I think I don't really care who views the show or what they, you know, in the end, they do what they want to do with their lives.
But there is a correlation between risky behavior and the LGBTQ lifestyle.
And that's actually true.
And a lot of people in the LGBTQ community don't talk about some of the negative parts about it, which, which, because I know that they don't want to talk about the negativity because it's kind of like how the left, you know, they get tired of being criticized for their sexuality.
So they don't even criticize themselves.
They don't have a healthy criticism.
And so like, yeah, there's a problem with gay men and drug abuse.
There's a problem with even abuse amongst in lesbian relationships, physical abuse.
And especially there's also a risk, you know, with a lot of things with contracting STDs because there's a promotion of promiscuity in a lot of mainstream LGBTQ cultures because their identity is about their sexual expression, not about other things.
Their main identity is that they're gay or they're this or they're that.
I'm not saying all people who identify as gay, that is their identity.
I don't think all people who identify or have struggles or the choices or whatever, I don't think that is safe to say they're all like that.
But I know in the mainstream communities, we live in LA, West Hollywood, you wouldn't want to sleep with someone there.
kezia schaffer
You don't even want to use the restroom out there.
unidentified
No.
kezia schaffer
Apologies.
elijah schaffer
You said no.
unidentified
No.
elijah schaffer
She knows.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, well, they're gay anyway, so they don't want to sleep with you.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
elijah schaffer
Let me ask you, Grace, what's going on here?
kezia schaffer
Oh.
Oh.
unidentified
I can't even understand what's going on in this picture.
Monday reminder that we're fighting for period equity for all menstruators.
So men can menstruate.
kezia schaffer
I love that.
I love that menstruate has men.
elijah schaffer
I thought it was a coloscopy bag.
I thought he was taking a dump in his underwear.
unidentified
I don't even know.
elijah schaffer
And it's a hot water thing, right?
It's to stop the cramps.
kezia schaffer
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
That's a transgender.
Or as we call them, TP.
kezia schaffer
And then they've got all the snacks, the sugar snacks.
unidentified
But he's happy.
Dancing.
elijah schaffer
And you see the pad coming out.
unidentified
Like, it's like, dude, seriously.
elijah schaffer
I mean, do men get periods?
They don't.
unidentified
No, it's physically impossible, biologically impossible.
elijah schaffer
No, this is, I mean, this one's pretty good, though, because if it wasn't for the pad, I would just think he's small pee-pee energy.
Like, I would just go, this man's been around some nuns.
unidentified
No, if that was a colostomy bag, then oh, colostomy, I call it coloscopy.
kezia schaffer
Oh, colossopy?
elijah schaffer
Is it called colostomy?
kezia schaffer
Why are you asking me?
I don't know.
elijah schaffer
Colin asked me, no, that's when they go, yeah, I don't like this.
But that brings it to the point.
You want to know why they make this?
There's a new word for this, which might even be the title for the video.
I don't know, in case we come with something better.
But it's called craftivism.
kezia schaffer
Oh, craftivism.
elijah schaffer
So this is a collage of people out of news, out of magazines.
kezia schaffer
Some really bad colours.
unidentified
What is this called?
elijah schaffer
There's a name for this, Todd, where they put the things together, anagrams or anneagrams or something like that.
Kidnapping victims.
Yeah, yeah, they put this together.
They wrote craftivism.
So there's a point that says, do-it-yourself crafts have been essential part of activism.
I didn't know that.
You mentioned earlier, they're fighting literal Nazis.
kezia schaffer
Yeah, if they're out there being like, literally, Trump is literally Hitler, but we're fighting Nazi, all this, but you're going to fight Hitler with crafts with like some scissors and glue and a magazine.
unidentified
They sell kits for this stuff at Barnes and Noble.
kezia schaffer
Craftivism?
unidentified
For kids.
For like 10-year-olds.
elijah schaffer
Craftivism.
unidentified
No, I mean like collage kits.
Yeah, collage kits.
elijah schaffer
It's never too early to start fighting the patriarchy.
kezia schaffer
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
I mean, I don't say that's a political tool.
kezia schaffer
There you go.
unidentified
For scrapbooking, okay?
You're teaching activists how to scrapbook.
elijah schaffer
It's like a 10-year-old niece, and you're like, hey, if you want to cut this into the shape of a fat woman with one nipple throwing dildos into the air, feel free and post it on Instagram and people are going to support you.
And she's like, why are you mapping?
It's sad though.
They're targeting young women.
kezia schaffer
Yeah.
I think I like.
I just think that if you're going to do crafts like this as an older person, maybe do it as like scrapbooking or something that makes sense.
But craftivism, I can't really get on board with that, unfortunately.
elijah schaffer
Okay, let me bring this up.
So I'm going to play a clip here.
So I was having a hard time understanding this artwork as well.
And there's an artist who explained to me that I probably don't understand it because of my, because I'm a man.
kezia schaffer
Oh, okay.
elijah schaffer
But she said you guys should.
So let me go ahead and show you this video of this person explaining to us why I don't understand it.
Not because it sucks.
kezia schaffer
Okay, okay.
unidentified
As I said, everything I do are visual opinions.
And every opinion is shaped by your experience.
And my experience in life is through my body and through my gender, which is women.
It's funny how everything I do that is, you know, quote-unquote feminist work.
Girls get it right away.
Girls get it right away.
And they really dig it.
And it makes me really happy because that means thinks I got something across.
And honestly, 95% of men don't get it.
A lot of people like it.
They think it's cute.
It's funny.
It's weird.
It's, you know, eye-catching.
But they don't understand what it means.
And most women that I know and I have, you know, that have reached out to me, tell me how much it means to them and how they feel that it represents a part of a part of them.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
So so she says that drawing a naked woman in a Mickey Mouse, uh, what is that called?
That's called a baklava.
What is it called?
A bald clava?
unidentified
Balclava?
elijah schaffer
Is that what it's called?
Like a Russian heist mask.
Just speaks a lot to you.
Does that speak?
Does a naked woman in a face mask?
What does it speak to you, Grace?
unidentified
Well, actually, it reminds me of like EDM stuff.
They wear those like mini or whatever those mouse hats are.
So I wonder if it has like something to do with that.
The only thing I can think of that that might mean is like women can have a beautiful body and have whatever kind of face.
I don't know.
Masking their identity means that.
elijah schaffer
I mean, I'm not going to say anything, but I'm saying that was like a model with probably like designer breasts.
I think that's what we saw right here.
She's a perfect body.
Like a perfect body.
So I don't know how that would speak to people.
It's like, that's clearly a good looking person.
And I think the whole point of this was to put the ugly on display.
And every guy is like, yeah, yeah, let's just get more of that artwork.
Go ahead, baby, baby.
Just put more of that artwork on our heads.
kezia schaffer
Men wouldn't get it.
I think that that artwork actually probably appeals more to men than women.
I thought it was like the sexy side of Disney.
elijah schaffer
What a nice pair of boobs.
What is that saying about women?
It's like, why do these women think that showing boobs is teaching men?
kezia schaffer
Yeah, what about the woman who was missing one?
Well, what about her?
unidentified
True.
Wasn't it objectifying?
elijah schaffer
Like a cookie.
One is better than none.
unidentified
We don't need to see her face.
We just need her body.
That sounds like a man's piece of artwork to me.
elijah schaffer
They say boobs are like Pringles.
You can never stop at one.
kezia schaffer
Did she explain why women understood it better or no?
unidentified
No, she just has a very subjective thing to say.
Like, oh, most women tell me how much it means to them.
Yeah, anyone could say it means something to them because it's objective.
elijah schaffer
Right, but it's more.
But they're doing a lot of art.
These are some honorable mentions.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
elijah schaffer
We have women crocheting boobs.
That's pretty nice.
Crocheted boobs.
Is that crochet you said?
What is that crochet?
unidentified
I don't know.
kezia schaffer
What is that crochet?
elijah schaffer
Are they trainers for your babies?
unidentified
Oh.
elijah schaffer
I like how someone just wrote in the comments there, cryptic thought said tatas.
That's literally, I mean, I can make an entire video and I'm glad that neither of you decided to wear a low-cut shirt.
Like, we have the most intelligent discussion.
And if the woman shows the slightest bit of cleavage, even if I do at this point, some of the boys who watch these shows, our audience, like 90% men, some of y'all need so much help.
Like, even when I was gaining a little weight and getting thick, some of you were having some problems with what was going on up here.
Like, seriously, you show the slightest bit of cleavage, and there's like comments just like tatas, boobies.
These boys.
So you think the feminists think they're making a point, right?
They're like, oh yeah, like breast liberation.
And guys are like looking at the feminist artwork going, nice, like free naked women on Instagram.
And Instagram doesn't delete it because they go, well, it's feminist activism.
And guys are probably all following these accounts, just like looking at naked women.
kezia schaffer
Well, it's interesting.
Because the whole feminist movement, they're always like, don't sexualize women.
And the media is always objectifying women and reducing us to sex objects, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then all of their artwork is, here's a naked woman.
Here's a picture of vagina.
Here's some boobs.
unidentified
Look at this.
Blah, blah, blah.
Wow.
kezia schaffer
Powerful.
And you go, hold on.
Isn't that objectifying?
But a woman in a movie without her top on is objectifying, but what you're doing isn't?
Like, I'm so confused.
It doesn't make sense.
Like, what they're fighting against, they're also perpetuating.
Is that the right word?
unidentified
Yeah.
kezia schaffer
It's like, okay.
unidentified
Yeah, kind of like how they support men being able to use women's restrooms if they identify as a woman.
They claim to like protect women's rights and women's bodies, but then they're allowing anyone to just go in there and say, oh, I identify as a man, and that person could be very well going in and take advantage of them.
Oh, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, look, and that brings it up too.
There's also the, you know, they're making pins.
There's a whole pin culture.
kezia schaffer
Oh, lovely.
elijah schaffer
Mind your own buffalo.
kezia schaffer
Oh, yeah.
It's a buffalo.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's a buffalo.
You can see that.
She is.
elijah schaffer
She's a buffalo.
Let's see.
Tell your daughter.
That's another buffalo pin.
Another honorable mention we had here is PSA.
Another quote here.
Sexual harassment is defined by the victim, not the harasser.
So everything is sexual harassment.
Could you stop sexually harassing me with your eyes, Grace?
unidentified
I'll try.
I'll try.
elijah schaffer
Stop eye raping.
unidentified
I'm just disgusting with my eyes.
elijah schaffer
Even Todd's eye raping me.
Todd, I'm going to sue your camera, too.
You guys remember eye rape?
Remember that was a thing people were trying to, girls were trying to say that people were eye raping them?
Like if you looked at, like, if you checked the girl out, that was eye rape.
That was a thing.
kezia schaffer
Like when they wear, you know, the slot march where they wear like nothing, like a sticker over their nipple, and then they go like, men, oh, I always catch them staring at my breasts, like, blah, they're so sick, they can't do this.
And you go, well, honey, when you got it out on display, it's hard for even me to not notice.
Like, what?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
You remember that at the Women's March?
I saw, I met you at the Women's March, and they girls had their full-on, in the better words of cryptic theory, their Tatas on full display.
And even, even as I'm married and stuff, and I'm fine, you just notice as a guy, like the girls don't realize they're like, look, you know, my body, my choice, my clothing doesn't define rape.
And they go, look, a woman can wear a burqa and she still gets raped.
I go, yeah, that's because of the religion of peace, not because of what she's wearing.
That's the ideology of the people.
They also will kill her too.
For a stone honor, you'll stone her for an honor killing.
So yeah, Iran's got bigger problems in their garb.
But out here, it's like, it's not that, like, yeah, he doesn't invite men to rape you.
It's not like you're like, you're going to be a victim because you wore, you know, your boobs are out.
But men are going to stare at you.
The whole free the nipple movement is like, men should be behind.
I mean, I mean, gross men, but like, I'm just saying, like, you would think men would be the ones behind it.
kezia schaffer
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Girls think it's other women, and men are just like, okay, yeah, women, free your nipples.
Like, even in high school, I remember they had it, they had to make the girls wear bras because they had the free.
The nipple movement was like what big?
When I was younger too yeah, in LA that was like started here and they were trying.
They had a no-bra movement and they made the girls start wearing bras because as a guy, I was like 16 and I was like I didn't have complaints of the girls stopping to wearing bras in high school, I was okay with it.
unidentified
Spaghetti straps, because that was too revealing.
Well, because it's not because of the girls, it's because the guys, the guys yeah yeah, is that?
elijah schaffer
But is that patriarchy?
No, it's not, is it no?
No, that's what I want to bring to you, because these are a couple, another couple of the points that I want to kind of bring to the matter.
Um, there's always, when they talk about this this, this uh title said that we need to have this um better together.
Um, to the end, we need to have end violence against women.
No I unironically, they put a Muslim woman up there and there really is most of the violence is happening towards Muslim women, but they always leave white women out of these, as if white women don't get beat and if you know anything about basic white girls around the time of uh, of pumpkin spice lattes, sometimes they can get in a position where they might get in something frisky, where they might end up getting fight someone.
Yeah, I know you, you're out of, you're out of pumpkin spice latte.
Their voice goes down like.
Their voice goes down like three octaves.
unidentified
Oh, i've seen them.
Yeah, i've worked at coffee shops.
elijah schaffer
I know, you know it's like.
But violence against women.
The weird thing about violence against women is I found that that some of the most evil people towards other women are other women.
Oh, women are vicious.
unidentified
Oh, so accurate.
Women are evil against each other.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and then here we have again, fight for women, and they're all like there's, why are they all miserable?
kezia schaffer
Little squiggly lip faces.
They look all so sad.
unidentified
Yeah, so you can't tell if it's a man or a woman.
elijah schaffer
Why is Will Wits mustache on these women's faces and they always have hair like that.
She has a cnemy under her armpit.
That's disgusting.
unidentified
Oh my gosh, oh my god, she's a little sietchin.
elijah schaffer
That's the bring to that.
So, you know, bring it down to, kind of my conclusion, um, this is the one thing that, on a feminist page, I found that Witch show.
A lot of feminists are into Wicca and they're into witchcraft now.
And I really think that a lot of this stuff is satanic.
I think a lot of this stuff is influenced by the enemy.
Because you know, demonology back in the days, I know a lot of our viewers or listeners are not Christian.
But I think, Todd, I would say a lot of people who made it this far in the podcast probably have some sort of faith to a level of an extent, or they are okay with the conversation.
Because I know Todd, the producer, he's not a Christian, but he's okay.
He likes long-form stuff.
And this is where you can get into the good stuff.
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We're continuing our discussion on weird artwork with the obsession of the similarities between feminist art and people into witchcraft.
I've been finding a lot of these people are either friendly with Wiccan, like kind of like modern witchcraft.
The kind of imagery almost looks occult, like cultic sometimes, like the occult.
And even this person here on the comments, like just straight up said, like, everyone's like, love it, it's so beautiful.
And there's this like mesmerization of like what's dark and what's opposite of truth.
And I was saying with like the demonology, there's this push towards, you know, androgyny, this idea of moving, you know, demons are supposed to be androgynous.
They don't have a gender.
And so when we get this far into the conversation, we really see that as women push to be more like men and they push men to be more like women and not their normal gender roles.
There's also this flirtation with the witchcraft and the darkness and the occult.
And it doesn't freak me out, but it makes me think that's where the ideas are coming from.
Like, where are people getting these ideas?
Why are women making blood art, you know, with their that's very cold?
A cult.
Like, I mean, there, I found a picture of a woman who stuck her fingers up her vagina, put the blood, all of her fingers, threw glitter on it, and took a picture of her fingers of what they looked like fingering herself.
And this is on Blaze TV so we can say this stuff because it's not on YouTube.
unidentified
Wow.
elijah schaffer
And these are the listeners, too.
So, but it's like she took, she made a sexual picture with blood and glitter, and it was on Instagram and not even censored.
unidentified
That's like satanic.
That's like everything you would see in like a 70s movie that's about like the occult and people drawing images in blood and drawing like the pentagram and stuff.
kezia schaffer
Yeah, because they are obsessed with blood, the naked bodies, all this sort of stuff is really like witchcrafty.
unidentified
Pre pre-fall.
kezia schaffer
I read somewhere and don't like quote me on this or something like that, but I read ages ago, like back in the day when there was the whole feminist movement rising, that these women got together and they were deciding how they were going to take down the patriarch or like or change the, I don't know, some they had really nefarious ways that they wanted to like ruin things.
And basically, they said to liberate gay people to make it like so that women could sleep around a lot and like not have kids.
And they had this whole big list of things, which you see has really led to quite a downfall in our society.
elijah schaffer
I know.
Isn't it weird, too, that like we actually have real conversations on the second part of real things?
No, but no, it really is true.
And they think that witchcraft is cute, which shows you why they're backwards.
Like, I think, Todd, I don't think you have any pull towards the dark arts, right?
I mean, if you're going to choose the which is the better, like, probably is Christianity or witchcraft probably better for the country, what would you choose?
Most definitely Christianity.
Yeah, he says that he's going to get fired.
But also, because I don't want any satanic people in my business, but I'll say, no, but that's the real truth.
It's like you realize that when you're telling people their identity is off and you're telling these women that they're, you know, don't shave your legs.
Don't, I mean, you don't have to shave your legs to be a woman.
I understand that's cultural.
But don't be a woman.
Don't be what men in your culture would want.
Be nasty.
Be a nasty woman.
Be gross.
Don't be feminine.
I mean, femininity just changed, right?
They're true.
Femininity and masculinity is different from culture to culture.
But there are also standards in place.
Because back in Greek culture, it was normal for men, grown men, to have sex with young boys who were hairless.
Paterasty was common.
That's not, just because that was considered masculine still doesn't mean it's universally good.
There are cultural things that are in culture that we don't accept.
And I understand that.
And they have that message that not all things placed on women, right?
You had foot binding in China for the women.
That was a, that was damaging.
It was, it was basically mutilation.
There are things like FGM, female genital mutilation in Africa.
These are things that are problematic, that are cultural, that are bad.
But then there are some things that it's like, dude, are you really thinking that the best way for a woman for her future is to be a hairy, smelly piece of garbage that nobody likes and has no development in her personality?
Like there's a good feminism.
There really is.
unidentified
Yeah, and to your point, like the Christian perspective, don't you think it's like rebellious against God to be like glorifying in your naked bodies?
Like after the fall, we're supposed to feel shame or like we automatically feel shame.
We're supposed to cover ourselves and be modest people.
So isn't it like a form of rebellion to like all of a sudden glorify being naked and like opening up your body and sticking your fingers up and all that kind of stuff and bring out your blood?
That's very, it's very evil rebellious against God.
kezia schaffer
And they wear it as a badge of honor.
Like all these women like Ashley Judd and all these women, they get up on stage and they go, I'm a nasty woman.
And everyone's like, yeah, I'm a slut.
I'm a nasty woman.
I'm this, that, and the other.
And then we don't need to shave our armpits.
We don't need to be feminine.
Shave your head.
We're not doing this for men.
And then in the next sentence, they're going, oh, it's not fair that the guys don't like us.
unidentified
And if you don't want to have sex with me, then you're fat phobic or you're this.
kezia schaffer
And you're, oh, you need to change your opinion to accept us the way we are.
It's like, okay, like, go be ugly.
Go do what you want.
But then don't get upset that people don't like it.
And then you go, well, they need to change this.
Society needs to change its outlook on us and say, we are beautiful.
And come on, don't you like us?
And it's like, you're proud that you're a nasty woman.
unidentified
It's like breaking down that idea of like absolutes and that there's a right and a wrong.
Right.
It's like trying to like make everyone feel or normalize the idea of everything's relative.
kezia schaffer
Right.
unidentified
And breaking down more.
elijah schaffer
But it's like there is beautiful and there is not beautiful.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I understand what I understand the message.
But I see the message where they're saying like, like, they're saying like, just because you have stretch marks, you shouldn't feel bad to go swimming.
And those are normal insecurities with women.
Yeah.
But you have to realize even the hottest women feel not as hot as they are.
kezia schaffer
Yeah, models are very insecure.
elijah schaffer
All feel insecure about it themselves.
Like that's that's a universal constantly judged and criticized.
Right, so it's not just like ugly women, and I can say that as a man, they're genuinely ugly women.
It's not that ugly women are insecure.
It's that all women are insecure.
And then also, the message isn't that ugly women are beautiful too.
It's that physical beauty isn't the only trait as a woman you should be worried about because women are hyper-obsessed with their outward appearance.
With a feminized culture, we have men that are more out there obsessed with the way they look.
It's always like, I gotta, you know, have my little cool things and my little this and my little hip thing.
kezia schaffer
All the men now have those one earring with the little cross.
It's like the nice craze.
It's like, why do men like you're you've got to you put a little tiny hole in your ear that makes you a man?
elijah schaffer
Like, people don't know what men are like in LA.
Like, people don't realize that.
Like, I always mention this that people always, you know, criticize me, like, butcher sisters, but you know, give your sister her pants back or whatever.
And you're like, all right, cool, man.
Like, you know, we're in LA.
My sister doesn't even wear pants.
It's like, oh, I'm just kidding.
No, it's like, no, but it's like, you know, look at what you're seeing here.
Look at the women.
They're like, they're naked in the streets.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
So it's like, you know, to me, it's like, we have a different version of being a man, but I can attest to that.
We don't have good role models here of what it means to be a man.
kezia schaffer
Oh, no way.
elijah schaffer
Like, do we don't have like you can't think of good role models living in LA?
It's like, yeah, we want to be like that person or that person.
It's like everyone's, it's kind of just like a shit show.
kezia schaffer
They're almost like gender fluid.
unidentified
Like everyone just is like this hybridized weird.
You don't even realize.
You don't even realize it.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Well, you don't even realize it.
And that's what's so crazy is like, is like as a woman, if you want to get a man, if you're just a feminine woman and you're like a four and you're like feminine here, you could probably get 10 men because what men really want is a feminine woman.
What you really want is like you want a woman who has the qualities.
She's gentle, she's tender, she's loving.
You want her to be strong and smart and work and stuff like that, but that's not why you marry her.
You don't marry her because she works.
You don't marry her because she's strong.
Those are positives.
You marry her because she's a nurturer, because she's tender, because you can talk to her, because she cares about you, because she cooks for you and cleans and she loves you and she's not going to cheat on you.
These women are like, you know, they like want you as a man to be open to an open relationship.
And you're like, do you want anyone else having sex with my girlfriend or my wife?
And they call you a bigot if you won't have a thrupple.
I'm just that's really what they are.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And then they call you a homophobe if you won't.
Like, what do these girls want their guys to be?
unidentified
They're intolerant.
elijah schaffer
They do.
They do.
They want your guys to suck and they call you a homophobe if you don't do it.
kezia schaffer
But then after, like, with these feminist women, and they're like, men should be sensitive and men need to tap into their feminine side and men need to do this.
So they absolutely feminize these men.
And then when you have little weak men who are feminized, they go, ugh, like, we don't want you.
No, who, what, what, no woman wants a feminized man.
unidentified
I don't want a feminine man.
No.
I want like an empathetic man, like an emotional man.
Or not, like, too emotional.
kezia schaffer
Yeah.
unidentified
But you know what I mean?
Like, someone's like, you're feeling.
Yeah, within Riyadh.
elijah schaffer
Women want emotional men.
You go, yeah, they don't want a man who's like stoic and doesn't have any ability to communicate.
But you don't want a man to be like crying all the time.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
What woman wants a women crying?
kezia schaffer
I cry all the time.
elijah schaffer
I cry all the time.
kezia schaffer
I need someone to be my rock and say, hold on, calm down.
elijah schaffer
According to movies, like, like, like, yes, okay.
kezia schaffer
The truth is out.
I cry in basically every single movie.
elijah schaffer
But women, like, if it's a man, like, it's somebody you love dies.
Yeah.
You know, like, maybe you have a devastate, you lost your job devastatingly, and something bad happens, and it breaks your heart because you lost your income and you're a little bit broken inside or something like that.
Maybe somebody slanders you and ruins your whole reputation and it breaks, you get broken down to the core.
You know, those are just normal things.
But it's like, you I think most men handle stress through anger.
unidentified
I don't know.
elijah schaffer
We just get pissed off.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
When we're stressed, we don't cry.
We just get angry and we yell at each other and then we used to hit each other and then HR departments popped up.
unidentified
A lot of guys work out now, so that's good.
They kind of like go to the gym to like release their anger.
So that's a positive way of dealing with it.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it helps.
And it increases your sex drive too.
Men know that.
When I'm lifting weights, it's not good in my home.
No, but I'm saying like, oh, that's with most guys I know.
Their sex drive is away.
Most guys are like, I don't need my sex drive to be up.
That's the problem.
I need it to lower.
Yeah, but it's good when you're married and you're in a relationship and stuff like that too.
It helps you to keep it up.
It's like good advice.
Like it's just workout lifts some weights and you'll have more libido and your marriage will be stronger.
It's just like a true statement.
And you look better.
You feel better.
Because women like to be soft and like thin and stuff.
And men, you need to be aware.
kezia schaffer
Yeah, unless you're a feminist woman, then you want to be hairy and prickly and disgusting.
elijah schaffer
Last question.
What's more painful women who have mastectomies and have their breasts removed or guys who have their penises in flailed open and inverted?
What's more painful?
What do you think is more painful?
Me getting my removed and having an internal vagina?
kezia schaffer
I think it must be the penis because the penis is very, very sensitive.
The breasts are very sensitive too, but I think a lot of women also get like breast implants and things like that.
So I think there's maybe less.
unidentified
That's the thing.
Cutting your penis off is irreversible.
Pretty much, not totally, but you can get surgery to add it.
kezia schaffer
Fold it back.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
But like breasts, like you said, you can get implants.
Yeah.
I go with penis.
Yeah.
All right.
elijah schaffer
So you guys heard it here.
We talk about important things as Glenn Beck just said.
Glenn Beck just said to be warned when you watch the show, which I didn't, you know what?
I think because we film this show all the time, it doesn't come across so crass and like open to me because it just is what it is, the show.
But plus, what's really nice, though, it's on a mainstream platform.
So it's like not too bad that it's on a mainstream platform.
I just think I don't have a filter.
And I think that's what the show should be called is like unfiltered.
Like slightly offensive, unfiltered, because that's what this show is.
Maybe even the second segment we come back should call it unfiltered.
But like this show should be slightly offensive, unfiltered because like what I think that people don't realize is conservatives talk just like the same way as liberals.
We have the same conversations.
It's just our conclusions are different.
Like we're normal people.
People go, oh, aren't you a Christian?
Aren't you this and that?
You go, yeah.
And I talk to Christians.
I know how they talk when they're in front of other Christians, how they talk in the car.
I know how Christians like, I can talk about a penis and a vagina.
Like I just am not going to get mine cut off.
Like I can talk about it.
It doesn't bother me talking about these things.
But it's like the difference is that I don't like actually give my kid hormone blockers.
But I can have a real adult conversation about it.
And I can make Christians can laugh too.
Isn't that psychotic?
Christians can have a good sense of humor.
Who would have known?
Anyway, thank you guys so much again for watching.
We are signing out.
As always, may God bless the United States of America and Grace and Kez.
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