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The Real Journalists EXPOSING Antifa | BATTLEFIELD ANTIFA [Part 3] | Ep 69

The MSM is not covering the truth behind the Black Lives Matter protests in Seattle, Portland, and around the United States. We invited the real journalist t... Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHC6mL8oyyA Uploader: Slightly Offens*ve

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elijah schaffer
Show me what democracy looks like.
This is what democracy looks like.
Well, I guess it looks like a place like Rite Aid Pharmacy being shut down and unable to work, including most shops here in Portland, which have been, I would say, shut down, or in the words of Antifa, beautification.
This is called gentrification, left-wing edition, to where may not have been able to make the stores open up, but at least we got some damn graffiti on them.
Anyway, welcome back to Slightly Offensive with your favorite host, me, Elijah Schaefer.
Today we are talking about all things Portland before we drop our major two-part series about what happens at the riots that the media is lying to you about.
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Anyway, let's look at some footage right now and jump into some of the madness before we get into some incredible interviews with four amazing journalists who have been out on the field and I can expose what's really going on.
unidentified
Bless the fuck out of here, man.
Bless him, no fuck, dude.
Hold the line.
Hold the line.
Nice pizza, bitch.
elijah schaffer
You're fucking terrorists.
unidentified
Press, I got you, I got you!
This is Caelan Delmeda he
elijah schaffer
He's an up-and-coming journalist who's actually doing better work than the mainstream media at this time.
And he's been on the streets in Portland, all around the country, actually.
And so getting your take, Kaylin, specifically on the situation in Portland, I want to ask you, so while you're out there, what do you see as a difference between what's going on every night there in Rose City versus what you saw in the occupied zone in Seattle?
unidentified
Well, what we saw in Seattle was individuals who just took over Six Blocks and they never left.
They made sure police didn't come in there and police were absolutely scared to be there.
You know, one officer told me specifically that if he went in there, he would be murdered.
What we see in Portland is 50, we're approaching 60 nights of consecutive riots and protests down there.
But their main focus, their main focus ever since they rioted, I think it was like seven or eight weeks ago, has just been to antagonize Portland Police Bureau and the federal building, the U.S. District Court down there.
That's their primary mission every night to have a protest for an hour, do 10% BLM chance.
The other 90% is just F-cops, basically, kill cops, pigs in a blanket, frying like bacon, that sort of thing.
And they're purposefully setting fire to things on federal property.
They're vandalizing, they're tearing away at the barriers that protect this building night by night.
But these are all Antifa.
They like to say that Antifa doesn't exist, and that's not true.
They like to play this game where they think they've been clever enough to avoid the legal definition of what it means to be an organization, but they really are, and they're not fooling anybody.
In Chaz, you just saw it was like a street festival during the day, and at night you just had thugs, random thugs.
You had John Brown Gun Club running security, and people ended up dead.
So far, I haven't heard of anyone dying down in Portland, but they're also not terrorizing too many businesses.
I have heard that recently they did raid a jewelry store, and that could have just been random agitators, random looters, random people who are taking advantage of the situation down there.
But for the most part, all these people show up in black block.
These are all people who are on board with this terrorist agenda to defund the police, get rid of the police entirely.
And they're there specifically to create a narrative that Trump is sending in Nazi stormtroopers to kill and arrest and snatch innocent, peaceful protesters off the street.
And that's only part of the story.
There are moms down there as an op, right?
It's an optics game where, oh, look, moms are getting gassed for no reason.
That's not true.
The moms show up, and that's true that they're there, and it's true that there was a peaceful protest and peaceful chanting, but they're a front for those that are inciting violence that are starting to tear down the barriers.
They're saying that it came without warning, this response from federal officers, not true.
They give fair warning every single night.
They have huge radios or huge loudspeakers that say, hey, you guys need to clear the area due to criminal activity.
And they'll say it and give them two hours, two and a half hours.
And it takes them about that long to respond.
So this has never been an issue of law enforcement just coming in without warning or unwarranted police violence.
It's not true.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and that's what I'm kind of hearing a little bit about is that these officers are sort of just imposing this brutality regime.
Some people are calling it a fascist regime, authoritarian regime tearing down peaceful protesters.
But I saw a video on part two of this series on Battlefield Antifa where the moms against anti-fascism, I mean, they were attacking the courthouse.
And I pointed out the fact that trying to say that moms mean that a protest is peaceful is ridiculous because everyone knows that the craziest person in the family is usually the mom.
So it's like, it's like, oh, there are moms there.
And you go, that doesn't tell me that that de-escalated because every time I was in a family growing up and was in a friend's house, I know who made things go off.
That was the moms.
unidentified
Anyway, that's a side note.
elijah schaffer
But speaking of this all, I did want to get one more question from you in particular.
People are telling this a peaceful protest against police brutality.
Is that what you're seeing?
And if not, what actually are you seeing on the streets there?
unidentified
A peaceful protest against police brutality.
It may be that during the day, during the first hour, first couple hours, there may be people there who believe that that's the primary reason for what's going on, but it's not.
It's not.
It's the cover, like I said.
And what we are seeing there is people who are there just to attack and destroy the federal property.
They're there for violence.
They're there to create a narrative that the police are bad.
And I can't, that's what I'm seeing.
That's just what I'm seeing down there.
It's pretty straightforward.
When you're there, it's so much different.
It's so much easier to filter out and ignore what mainstream media is saying about this or the stories that are being written about it because there's always an angle.
But when you're there, it's very obvious.
They're constantly shooting mortar-style fireworks and explosives at these buildings and throwing them at law enforcement.
They're doing charity bombs and all kinds of stuff at these people.
They bring shields.
They bring shields because they know what's going to happen.
They're bringing leaf blowers now to blow away all the CS gas.
elijah schaffer
I know who knew that the protection to police brutality would have been gardeners.
unidentified
Talk about a need for more illegal immigration in this country, right?
elijah schaffer
I mean, talk about that, right?
I mean, where's Juan when you need him?
And some people might call me racist for saying that, but you tell me how many non-Hispanic gardeners you've seen in the last month.
And I'll tell you, the only ones you've probably seen are right now every night in the streets of Portland.
Anyway, Caitlin, thank you so much for coming on.
Check out his links below.
Most importantly, I would suggest that you follow him on Instagram as well as Twitter.
Show him some support.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Caitlin's non-partisan.
Caitlin's not even somebody who cares about whether you're left or right, but he realizes the truth.
And the truth sets you free.
These are not just your average people.
These are individuals who are continuing to wage a war on the streets of Portland.
But that's why I checked in with George Ventura, also known as Jorge.
Not whore, but Jorge, who could tell me a little bit more from the Daily Caller about what's going on there in Portland.
Welcome back to the show, George.
unidentified
Hey, man, thanks for having me on.
And yeah, I can't wait to see you back on the field, Elijah.
It's been like a good month now, man.
elijah schaffer
I know.
Hey, I got my COVID test back today, and it looks like I've had COVID maybe more than once, like I thought.
unidentified
But I'll probably run you with our own COVID.
So you probably gave it to me.
Yeah, yeah.
elijah schaffer
So if people want to know why I'm not on the field and they've made it this far into the show, it's because COVID ripped through my family after my mom died.
But anyway, speaking of more happy things, let's talk about Portland.
So you've been in Portland off and on.
You've been around the country.
What do you see as the main differences between what's going on in Portland versus what you have seen in other places like where you live in Washington, D.C.?
unidentified
I think the biggest difference for me, Elijah, is just how well organized these groups are.
I think here in D.C., you have maybe like maybe four or five like Twitter accounts who are kind of organizing things.
And it's just like maybe basic stuff, like where to go, where they're marching to.
But in Portland, it's a whole nother level of organization.
They literally have teams that just cook, which is the Riot Ribs in Portland that we're trying to show with our coverage.
They also have their own medics.
They have teams like an umbrella squad that basically works like a defense line against tear gas and pepper bullets.
They're just so well organized all around.
And I think that's one of the biggest differences.
They have kind of their own security as well.
And just all around, they kind of have teams for every little thing and kind of creating their own little army, I would say.
And also, I think just how persistent they are to come out every single night and then are out there clashing with federal officers three to four in the morning.
You know, usually when I'm covering these protests, I'm pretty sure you've seen as well, Elijah, they go around to like midnight, maybe one in the morning, and then they start to really die down.
That's not the case in Portland.
It's like one and two in the morning, and it's still, you know, attentions are high, a lot of clashes going on, and it's around four in the morning we see things die down.
So that's it's just been huge differences from what I've seen from other protests.
elijah schaffer
So when Trump calls these people professional protesters, does what you see agree with that statement or do you disagree?
unidentified
I would even go maybe further, maybe just straight anarchists.
You know, they are vandalizing a federal property building in the federal courthouse.
When we've been there reporting, we've gotten clips of them actually try to set it on fire.
And, you know, they actually have, you know, about, you know, they have federal officers in that courthouse as well.
So it's, it's, to me, and I, you know, I hate to kind of coin this term, but it's kind of like a mini civil war where you've got to remind we're approaching almost 60 days of this type of violence every single night.
And in one of our interviews, if for those who follow me on Twitter and Instagram, we actually interviewed a U.S. veteran who called it, according to him, it reminded him of his time in Iraq.
So that's the type of stuff that we're hearing on the ground in 2020 in Portland.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so you brought up a little bit about the organization.
You know, when I was covering the riots in Dallas and we saw around the country people dropping off bricks, piles of bricks to help heat in the destruction.
Have you seen weapons presently?
And what kind of weapons or type of maybe even outside help have you seen as the people wage a battle against the federal courthouse?
unidentified
I mean, we've seen all types of things, Lija.
We've seen fireworks, projectiles.
We've seen paintball guns shooting at the cameras at the federal courthouse.
I mean, all types of weird little things.
They've actually created their own shields that kind of work in the defense mechanism.
But I think to me, the biggest thing is them actually throwing fireworks and just all types of different projectiles.
So it'll be like anywhere from a frozen water bottle to just random rocks and little things that they could use to fire back at the federal officers.
So we've seen all types of things.
And in terms of outside help, one big thing that I think isn't really talked about is the media, actually.
I think that's actually a big outside help because the media on the ground in Portland actually has been basically defending the whole crowd.
So they'll do is they'll upload a lot of out-of-context clips on Twitter and things.
And it'll kind of basically make the federal officers look bad and make the protesters look like they didn't do anything.
They never upload the violent stuff that they do.
So I think that's one big thing that's helping them because the outside narrative.
And then personally, just on the ground, we've been seeing a lot of basically just random cars will drive up to these bases, deliver a lot of supplies.
So we don't know if that's either community support or type of organization they have, but it's really well organized.
They have plenty of supplies to basically go out all night, plenty of water.
They have food, medics.
They have people even passing out little eye goggles for tear guys.
I mean, you name it.
They have those supplies on the ground.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, you know, I unfortunately also saw they were passing out small little pigs that make noise.
And in fact, sometimes these protesters seem a little bit like that.
Unfortunately for me, I'm really hurt tonight because I was blocked by the official Twitter account of Riot Ribs.
So Antifa's food supply apparently isn't pro slightly offensive.
But George, we're going to hear a lot more from you in the coming weeks.
I'm sure as you and I are excited also about what's going to happen in Chicago, we may need to buy better equipment and actually some more steel plates and whatnot for guns.
But anyway, check out George's links below.
I would recommend primarily following him on Instagram and Twitter.
Anyway, thank you so much for coming on.
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andy ngo
Thanks for having me on.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so let's jump right into the questions.
Obviously, you've been covering Portland for quite some time, and the current narrative is that the rioters are only acting out because of the presence of the federal agencies.
Is that a true statement?
andy ngo
No, it's false.
The federal deployment of the digital resources didn't happen until the 4th of July.
That was just a couple weeks ago.
And the riots have been going on now for seven weeks.
So for five straight weeks, the violent protests have been happening and they weren't getting any better.
In fact, they were getting worse ahead of the Independence Day holiday.
So what's happening is that the mayor and the standards and the governor are using this opportunity to blame President Trump and his administration and DHS for their own failure to get a grasp on the excessive criminality that's happening in the state's largest city.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, okay, so the Oregonian, I'm sure you're familiar with the publication, says that federal officers were on the scene.
They said as of June 27th, but you're saying that they weren't active until the July 4th weekend.
Do you also have reports of them being in Portland towards the end of June?
andy ngo
Yes, there was likely some reinforcements that were there at the end of June, but the larger surge, the one that made everybody go nuts, didn't happen until the 4th of July.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so we're already seven weeks into this.
So obviously that narrative is false.
Why do you think the media continues to press the overreaching narrative that the riots are only happening because of federal presence, other than to blame Donald Trump, which of course would be speculative at this point?
andy ngo
Well, you work in media, you know how media bias works.
The local media, obviously, even the paper records are all biased, at best, mildly supportive of the Antifa cause.
And at worst, I would call them fellow travelers and propagandists.
But there's a lot of parachute journalists, and by parachute journalists, I mean those who are from DC, New York, who didn't start paying attention to Portland until Trump became involved in the picture, who are now flying over and coming in.
And they're getting their narrative for their New York Times stories, for the Washington Post stories, etc., from those reporters who have been on the ground for weeks.
And these reporters, with all due respect, are extremely biased.
And I'm being polite when I say that.
I think many of them actually have bad intentions and bad faiths as well in what they're doing.
So they're framing this to be favorable to Antifa.
All the criticisms against the Trump administration are Antifa talking points, such and their lies as well, such as the claim that there are unidentified secret police disappearing and abducting people, you know, making comparisons to the Gestapo and other Nazi references.
I'm sure the upcoming election has something to do to it, but this hyperbolic fear-mongering is what's causing the research, actually, of real surge of people going out to the streets and being violent.
Let me clarify.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and so let's talk a little about the people.
So you said bad faith journalists that are out there.
Obviously, someone like myself who's really a commentator.
Sometimes I call myself a reporter, a C-minus comedian.
That's even being generous to myself.
You know, I obviously go out there with the intention of just capturing what's going on, but I've noticed that a lot of Twitter accounts have popped up that, you know, their pronouns are in their bio.
They say Black Lives Matter.
Their reporting seems to be like they're behind Antifa lines, almost like surrogate Antifa propagandists.
What's your experience with these people?
andy ngo
Yes, a lot of the independent journalists whose videos and commentaries are then fed onto larger platforms are what you would call sort of behind the Antifa lines and that they get approval and protection from Antifa to do what they want.
There's been numerous journalists and live streamers, photographers who have been targeted, attacked, had their equipment taken or broken because Antifa didn't approve of their presence there.
So when you see somebody there embedded and not facing any opposition from Antifa Black Bloc, that should tell you what you need to know about where their sympathies lie.
You know, and with their commentary aside, I think what happens with these short videos is that they don't provide the full context or even the half context because some of these videos are literally five seconds long or less.
So sometimes what they will happen is they will put out a video that shows police say tackling somebody or arresting somebody and they're screaming and it's a big scene.
And then they don't provide the context that this is in the middle of a riot, that this person is a violent criminal suspect, that other people were assaulting law enforcement.
So it's not just like federal law enforcement randomly coming out and beating up people.
It's in the context of people over and over trying to break inside the building and trying to burn it down.
That's their stated intention.
And they actually have made attempts to do that.
Fortunately, every time they have broken the windows and started fires, it's quickly extinguished.
But their intention here is to kill the law enforcement that's inside the building.
elijah schaffer
And do you have evidence?
I mean, have you seen in circles on Twitter or in chat rooms or wherever else you get your information, do you see that these protesters or rioters in some cases have violent intentions beyond just vandalism of the building?
andy ngo
They do.
I mean, they write it everywhere in the city about killing cops and murdering cops and killing pigs.
And they have violent imagery actually right on the federal courthouse as well as the justice center.
And they write out this graffiti and the messages again day after day.
The city in the morning is just repainting over the destruction on the city.
What's really important, actually, and I commend DHS for this, is that they're leaving the graffiti up on the federal courthouse so that people can see what's actually being done to the building and what the intentions of these violent extremists are.
Whereas the justice center, which is under the county property, they just spend waste taxpayers' money to power wash and clean and repaint every day only for it to be destroyed again at night.
elijah schaffer
So that being said, you know, you're talking about, obviously there's a visual representation, so that leads me in this direction.
Do you think that the Trump administration and federal agencies are possibly not containing the situation to the extent they're being accused of containing, right?
I mean, obviously the far-left media and some major mainstream publications have accused them of instituting fascism and some sort of a police state.
But from what I've seen, they are not responding unless they are first provoked.
Do you think that the speculations of the Trump administration allowing this to wake up the American people for people to see the truth of what's going on in the city is accurate?
Or why do you think that they are not engaging to the level they're being accused of?
andy ngo
So this huge hysteria over a very, very modest response from federal authorities tells you what you need to know.
And it's quite wise, in my opinion, that the federal government has not sent in large numbers of, let's say, troops or even other more federal agencies to clamp down on the street violence.
Because, I mean, what will happen is it's essentially if you break it, you buy it.
And so by that, I mean if more violence, let's say, happens as a response to troops being there, everything is going to be blamed on the Trump administration.
And that's what the mayor and the governor actually want.
They want to be able to wash their hands of their incompetency to be able to blame Trump, right?
So the city has jurisdiction over its city property.
And if it's choosing to let law-abiding citizens suffer, the public should be aware of that.
And the federal government has an obligation to protect its federal property.
And it's doing that.
And it's doing it well.
And that's angering people in Portland.
elijah schaffer
So, my last question for you is: as someone who operates most of your reporting in and out of Portland and far-left extremism, specifically the rise of anti-fascist militants in the area, a lot of people don't know a lot about this, and they get information.
I mean, I have a lot of viewers who genuinely tell me that they didn't even know about Antifa and these kinds of things until they watched this show, until they listened to the podcast.
And I'm sure you've had a lot of people that follow you as well.
But for the average person who goes, if I live there, I would be so upset.
I wouldn't tolerate this.
Do you think that the support in Portland is generally leaning towards the rioters, or do you feel that there still is a large presence or a majority of people with support law and order?
andy ngo
Unfortunately, I think there's a critical amount of support for the rioters.
That's why everybody doesn't even refer to them as rioters.
This is, you know, your listeners and viewers need to pay attention to the PR angle of this and propaganda.
They all have uniformly adopted the word protester.
No matter if somebody is peacefully demonstrating lawfully or if somebody is trying to burn down and kill people, they're still labeled a protester.
And that's all very intentional.
And it makes it so that the public is confused because now the headlines they're reading is that, oh, Portland police and federal law enforcement are beating up and arresting and disappearing protesters on the street who are protesting for racial justice.
You know, most people just read headlines.
They see the tweets.
They see the posts on social media and short videos and photos that don't provide the full context.
And it feels the rage.
And that's what keeps Black Lives Matter alive as well.
So Portland is just a very sad example of a city that has one political monoculture.
It's left, not just left-wing, it's hard-left.
And within that, there's a far-left faction.
And they have a lot of sway.
And I think the calculation of the local government is that it's more politically expedient to let the far-left rioters do what they want to do rather than to stand up for law-abiding citizens.
elijah schaffer
So, yes or no question to end the interview.
Do you see the situation escalating further?
Yes or no?
andy ngo
You know, the answer to that question is really in the hands of the rioters themselves.
They make it very clear that they want to escalate.
That's why every time they're repelled back, either by pepper spray or tear gas, they just regroup and they come back in and they re-barricade the building and they break down the windows and try to start more fires.
So that's their stated intention.
That's what they're doing.
So I think the answer to that question is: yes, there will be more escalation.
elijah schaffer
Okay, thank you so much, Andy.
You can check out Andy's work in the links below.
Follow him on Twitter as well as if you're watching this on YouTube.
Subscribe to his YouTube.
And I believe your podcast is also available on Apple iTunes, yes, and Spotify.
andy ngo
Yes.
elijah schaffer
Okay, great.
So check it out there and subscribe as well.
Thanks, Andy.
a safe weekend.
Peaceful protests here in the city of Portland.
Are you guys bored yet?
I know that these stores are not.
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And that's why rather than just showing you some of what's actually going on, which again, we're going to really get into depth and show a lot more intense and incredible footage in this coming week as we put together an amazing project.
But oh, hey, glass.
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Really cool.
This is like they used to do this back in 2019.
But we switched to something more conventional.
Anyway, I sat down with a few different journalists to talk to them about their experiences so far to combat what the mainstream media and corporate media is saying.
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