I want to ask you guys, so if you don't know, recently the Boy Scouts of America changed their name from the Boy Scouts to the Scouts, and they're going to allow women to join.
Do you think it's a good idea or a bad idea?
unidentified
Yeah, that sounds awesome.
I would have joined the Boy Scouts if I was allowed when I was little.
I mean, they could change the name because it's also Scouts and they do some different stuff.
So like the one could be for people who want to do more outdoorsy stuff and the other could be for, I don't know what the Girl Scouts do.
Well, as a trans non-binary person, I do appreciate having a gender-neutral space for children.
I mean, kids need to be able to grow up in a place where they feel accepted and, you know, where they're allowed to be in.
That being said, I understand why Girl Scouts has tried to keep themselves in a gender-specific kind of space because women are still, you know, a sort of oppressed group in America.
Should talk about the fact that women make 73 cents on the dollar to men, but it's been debunked and proven that they just have different life choices.
And then if women actually made less money than men, why wouldn't companies just hire women?
unidentified
Yeah, I don't believe that because I've taken a couple feminist theory classes.
Off the top of my head, I can't actually state any facts.
I wish I could pull some up right now.
But no, it is definitely a sexist world that we live in.
And it's definitely more geared towards cisgender heterosexual men in that men are trained to be more confident, more they're trained to go for STEM fields, business fields, all sort of STEM majors and stuff like that.
I think that there are certain standards, like gender standards that are placed in the Boy Scouts where it's like, oh, to become men, it's like you have to do these things.
It's like strong, like, um, strong, brave, learn how to, like, use skills, and then...
You think there's differences between men and women?
unidentified
I mean, kind of only because we're taught that, like, we can be whatever we want to be in the end.
As a reporter myself, I'd like to say that it's interesting that you're inserting your own view when you're asking these questions and kind of inserting your comments in between in order to kind of change the dialogue.
I don't think that that's necessarily the kind of approach that most reporters would say is.
If girls are allowed in the Boy Scouts, do you think that boys should be allowed in the Girl Scouts?
unidentified
What?
I think we have to look at sort of the larger culture that's sort of like, you know, overlapped on young men, you know, of how masculinity, how we define men as in masculine terms.
I think that it would be a move forward for, you know, young guys to maybe.
You know, I just don't understand.
I don't know why there needs to be sort of these sort of like divisions, you know?
I think that a part of being a man has to do with, you know, maybe being a little bit more feminine, you know?
So, what we're kind of seeing here is that a lot of these college students initially don't know anything about the Boy Scouts or the Girl Scouts, but immediately when you ask them to give their opinion about something they don't know about, they have a lot of opinions about things.
That's College in America for your folks 2018.
Let's keep talking to more students.
Do you think that we should have separate things to train boys to become men and for girls to become women?
Maybe like a group of people who kind of go out and do guy things and a group of people who do girl things and they kind of have separate identities?
unidentified
Yes, I think that's fine.
My whole argument would be to hopefully have those two different groups of, you know, sort of for these young people to transform that they can sort of engage with each other at one point.
They actually also like, make more money before the age of 35 as well and they live longer.
So do you think they're really like underrepresented?
Yeah, of course, but shouldn't maybe like, do you think it'd be possible if we should let the girl scouts perform to have some options for tom tom girls instead of uh or tomboys or whatever you call them, rather than uh actually taking down the gender limitations on boy scouts?
unidentified
I say b, I say both should allow what both should allow.
Uh, I say both should allow both sexes to go into bo, into both, into both uh scout organizations as they, as they foresee.
