Dark Journalist and Olivia dissect covert Moon Wars, alleging secret Nazi tech via the Paperclip program and linking JFK's assassination to suppressed lunar missions. They analyze esoteric claims that the moon is a living entity feeding on humanity, citing Gurdjieff and Cayce, while connecting modern SpaceX-NASA data breaches and Trump's 2028 "Golden Dome" order to a militarized UFO defense grid. Ultimately, the episode suggests current space exploration serves occult and military agendas rather than peaceful science, implying humanity faces an artificial eighth sphere designed to limit consciousness. [Automatically generated summary]
And I should have added the esoteric history of the moon because that's really what we're going to get into.
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Taking in that pre-holiday buzz from President's Day.
And it's funny because there are four presidents involved in tonight's episode.
And right at the top, of course, John F. Kennedy.
Excellent.
President John F. Kennedy.
Because when you think of the moon and you think of presidents, who do you think of?
JFK.
JFK, for sure.
I mean, who else?
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And so, before I go any further now, Ms. Olivia, what do you got?
Commander Straker says, sending positive vibes for a gremlin free broadcast.
And Colonel Salty says, hopefully they won't thwart you talking about the covert moon wars again.
DJ and Olivia for the win.
Well, it's interesting.
The moon wars may go back a long, long time, long, long, long, long time.
Hello, Enoch.
Hello, Watchers.
Way, way, way, way back.
Hello, Lemuria.
But we can also track them to right around the 1890s as well, and the publication of a very strange book over in Germany that inspired all of these scientists.
Of course, that book is Two Planets and basically reports to have aliens here from a nearby planet, probably Mars.
Coming and living in Antarctica.
And they look just like us.
They act just like us.
They just tend to have kind of a bigger moral compass, I guess you could say.
And it's very interesting when you think about that because von Braun himself said this is what wanted him.
This is what made him into a scientist and a rocket scientist.
Somebody very strange that's been left out of the history books on this tonight as well.
And we're going to get into him tonight.
His last name is Teal, but he's not that Teal.
But he was a very influential rocket scientist on the verge of a very major presentation in 1943.
And they did make and name a crater after him, even though he was a German scientist.
So he's one of the first posthumous paperclip, I guess you could say, in that sense.
Very fascinating guy.
He's in here tonight.
It's all in here, along with some of the deepest mystery school figures.
And through the figures of Gurdjieff, Ouspensky, Rudolf Steiner, The Edgar Cayce work, Helena Blavatsky, we get a sense of what the moon is all about, what the mystery schools were trying to tell us was going on there, far, far beyond the dead planet hypothesis or the chunk of ice out in space and all the different popular themes that came up.
And all the things that we've heard about the moon being debunked also by modern science and psychics like Ingo Swan, for example, one of the best remote viewers.
So, you know, we have a lot.
We have a lot of information that is substantive.
We have a lot of information that leans into the deep, deepest quarter of the esoteric.
So, when you combine those, you get a hint of what's actually going on.
And tonight, in one of the major kind of geopolitical runs in history, there's a figure in Nazi Germany, of course, Walter Dornberger, who we featured in our documentaries, but he's involved with a group, a mystery group.
Very, very deeply back there in the 1920s.
And they're working with Fritz Lang on movies.
And that whole group comes to be the rocket group that eventually sends a man to the moon.
Well, they may have been instructed to do that from the very first.
So we're going to get into what that group is all about.
And we're also going to take a deep look at how the anthroposophical, theosophical view of the moon sets us up for an incredibly expansive idea.
And that's where.
The kind of mystical tradition around tarot and all the other pieces giving us that hint that the moon is a very astral power and astral force.
When we're dealing with all this, that all of our hopes psychically actually are hinge on the moon.
And in the background, there's all the weird moon stories about NASA and the faking and all the rest of it.
And then there's the origin of the moon, which there's still not really true scientific consensus.
The story that they have about something smashing in here, you know, still kind of weak.
As a matter of fact, what's very strange is in Gurdjieff's Beelzebub's tales to his grandson, He gives a hint that there's actually two moons, one much smaller, and that that one is broken off is now not visible.
We no longer see it, but they're both part of the same thing.
We're going to get into all that tonight, this very special episode.
Behind the Conspiracy Mask00:04:34
Miss Olivia, what do you got?
Ivan Langley says, So much happening in the world, my mind and spirit need a break from it all.
Thank God for the show, seriously.
And Martaine says, This show always makes my week like a huge dose of calm, critical sanity.
Well, I'll tell you this, and it's very interesting.
If you go back in history, when those higher, you know, when the elites get into trouble on any level, what they do is they flood the zone.
And so you're experiencing some of that now.
And it's a very unfiltered flood zone.
And so the lack of filtering is creating a lot of chaos, shall we say.
One of the things I will say, though, if you go back, like, for example, when they reinvestigated the Kennedy assassination, if you look at that period of the 1970s and you filter through the New York Times, Washington Post, and all the rest of it, They went from very, very solid cases with people coming forward, like Marita Lorenz, saying, Well, we were training Oswald on our side to do all these things against Cuba.
And he was one of our main guys.
And Bobby Kennedy was in charge of the unit that trained all those people.
Really putting forward edgy, edgy material.
And then side by side with it, the headlines start to come up story of Soviet clone for Oswald.
All the really kind of far out ones looping in there to take you into the junk conspiracy zone.
Remember, you've got the real thing, and then the rules in dark journalism is you've got the ultimate story, which is the official story.
They're doing that to protect the institutions and all the rest of it.
That's 19 hijackers in 9 11, or Oswald with an old gun in the Kennedy assassination.
The pressures of the environment for the financial coup d'etat of 2009 was just subprime, don't you know?
All that stuff, all the official stories that they lay out there.
And then you have the real story beneath that.
And that is the counter story to the official narrative.
You get a lot of professors in on that.
You get a lot of researchers, a lot of writers, and all the rest of it.
And what's quite fascinating about that is usually most of the truth is in there.
But people start picking up on that, and this other field comes in.
That's the junk conspiracy.
That's the thing that you need to get thrown off by.
And we have tons of it now.
It's heavily, heavily financed.
One of the greatest cases of all that stuff, true or not, was all the Bridget Macron stuff.
All these important financial investigations were coming forward, all these other investigations were coming forward, and this thing was sucking up oxygen and it was heavily financed.
And you can actually read in financial publications going deep on who was behind those types of activities.
And it's very different than you think.
So that thing walks and talks like it's independent media or a conspiracy community or whatever.
It is not, it is a highly funded operation.
With heavy duty TV producers, heavy duty producers who do cliffhangers, who come from the program lost after they lost their jobs.
They went into the podcast world and they started populating all of these news figures into the population of the podcast world.
And that's the world that we get now with this bad version of independent media.
So you've got corporate media, which is paid, and you used to have independent media, which was the balance against it.
Well, guess what?
Now corporate media is like, well, we can't beat them, got to join them, we'll pay for that stuff.
And that's what they're doing.
So now we need a third route to get us into a different terrain.
That's part of what we're doing here on this program to bring you the potent information, the real stories, not influenced by any of that.
None of the circus here, especially not for tonight.
Yes.
What do you got?
Interestingly enough, Joseph is out there and he says, I had a massive problem today on my website admin page, which is still unresolved.
It won't let me post anything.
So, yeah.
Whatever was up with GJ's mic last Friday may not have been coincidental.
It's very bad.
Oh, oh, wow.
Well, if I'm not mistaken, you pretty much do everything through your admin, right?
So, Joseph, that's why I hope you get that fixed because I know you're everything, all of your, you know, all of the guest rooms, all the hosting stuff, all that comes through your admin.
So, if they're messing with that, that's really not good.
I hope that circles around.
Trump and the UFO Files00:15:42
Yeah, I definitely had that impression that there was something a little extracurricular, shall we say.
One of the things I will say, though, also when it comes to This type of thing is you can always tell, um, when things are either being censored, marginalized, or interfered with, and usually it's it's it really is when they're getting into the deeper topics.
Very often, the fluff stuff is pumped at you non stop.
I had to remove about nine things out of my uh Twitter feed today alone that they're just shoving at you, trying to get you interested in this junk, truly ridiculous, and most of it from TikTok, too.
So, you find TikTok is the big interloper in the back there, all right.
What else you got?
Sorry.
You're going to have to give me a minute.
All right.
In the meantime, I'm going to start.
I'm actually going to start with the Obama quote because it's just so far out there.
And this just happened, and it was not on a big podcast, and there was no follow up.
So I think the whole thing was arranged, and it was, as I said, to position Obama to be in the right place at the right time for the things that are going to come up this summer.
With the three big releases of these UFO movies, Spielberg right in the heart of it.
And, you know, trampling around in the background are the counterintelligence figures like Lou Elizondo and Grush and others.
Now, and some of the guys like Grush, I think, are better.
I talked to Grush, I remember what he was trying to get at, but he was surrounded by these other people.
So he always had a chance to get out of that and come on the show and really tell his story.
But he's taken this other route.
He's an interesting one to watch in that case, I would say, because, you know, the Mellon web, the Christopher Mellon web of controlling how this all works, they did all of this kind of, you know, you could say they were laying layers and layers of disinformation in the independent circles.
And you still see that stuff buzzing around all over the place.
The Peter Thiel people are putting out a ton of that.
But what basically they decided to do was run their people, you know, Mellon, Elizondo, Grush, just run them through Hollywood.
This is how they figured out how to handle this.
Let's see how well it goes for them.
As whenever you get a group where, you know, we already know what things are going on, it kills the purpose of counterintelligence because once somebody knows what's up, the counterintelligence doesn't work so, so well.
And the reasons why they would do that kind of thing based around the UFO file is very.
It's because you're dealing with a kind of technology that is exotic, just on the surface of it, but they've also hidden it for close to a century.
And what do you do in a case like that?
They've hidden it, they've kept it down.
So we're in a very interesting cycle where something about it has to come out and they're going to either have to come up with some fantastic spin or find a way to just shut it down through some national emergency.
But what I figure that they have done is they are using the UFO file.
As a threat narrative, they've been building that for five years.
And what they want to do is create an emergency powers style situation, especially for that.
That's where this is headed.
And we've seen some dry runs with the Chinese balloons and some of these other things they've done in the past couple of years.
Of course, the incredible drone swarms.
Who could forget that?
This is extraordinary what was happening.
And that's what, you know, that's right as Trump was getting inaugurated.
Lazen Ripper was asking if time permits, maybe a word on lasers bringing down a cartel drone over El Paso?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
The El Paso thing is in my notes.
It's interesting because they shut down so much of the airspace over there.
And I don't think it's cartel related.
I don't have proof that it's not.
But, you know, you don't see things like that very often.
And my guess is that it was some kind of an exercise.
And most of those exercises come directly out of Northcom.
I remember when we were seeing all these things like swarms over Virginia, you know, oh, Langley.
It was getting swarmed by these drones.
We don't know what they are.
That would never be allowed to happen under any circumstances.
So, all the news stories like that are complete fluff.
They know what they are, obviously, and they will act against them if they were hostile.
The thing is that what they needed there to do was perform the exercise.
Later, I found out that that exercise was called Homeland Synchronizer.
And it was the description of it.
If you go deep into the Northcom, Info and the COG general, that information is available.
That's Brian Gio.
He put this together and he is, remember, he's simultaneously the NORTHCOM commander, he's the NORAD commander, and he's also the COG combatant commander.
He's a triple threat.
And anyone who gets in that position is.
And it's very interesting because that Homeland Synchronizer was aimed, the object of the exercise was UAP versus UAS, okay, unmanned.
Aerial systems, surveillance systems versus a UFO.
So you send a drone after a UFO, and that was the nature of it.
That's where all of the swarm stuff comes from.
So when you see something like that going on in El Paso, my guess is it's an exercise.
And again, it's coming directly out of that Northcom NORAD corridor, very shadowy corridor, shall we say.
But I've been keeping my eye on that.
I think that incident, along with Obama's comments, line up time wise for me.
And they're strange.
Let's get into Obama for a minute.
Obama's kind of interesting again.
You have to.
Man, I'm going to stick that guy for the rest of my life.
Yeah, but you're really sick of Michelle Obama.
Come on.
No, look, Obama is still the power and he's the string puller in the Democratic Party.
The Biden administration was just Obama three, you know, and Biden was Stepford Biden.
They had the devices controlling him in the back.
But I do not for a second believe that he was running that administration.
But Obama and Obama's people were right there at the helm.
And I think the agreement was no matter how far gone he is, we still have this fundamental basis of an American president running things in the background.
And what's interesting too is that he was also responsible for getting Biden out of there because he's the one listening to the donors and wanting to keep the Democratic donors right on there.
Even though he knew Kamala was going to go down really badly, he's the one who kept.
Biden into the debates early.
He put him in the debates early against Trump in June.
If you go back in the history of presidential debates, you will not find a June presidential debate between the two main candidates.
It does not happen.
You always do it after the conventions.
Labor Day hits and the campaign kicks off.
The debates are somewhere in there.
Well, that summer, for some reason, it was Biden versus Trump.
Biden went in there, his brain melted on stage, and they were able to shove Kamala Harris in there.
And no matter how much of that storm drug they gave Biden, it did not work that night.
And Harris was, you know, she only had two months to pull out a victor.
I mean, this was an incredibly amazing thing to do.
But that is the power of Obama.
Make no mistake, he's still the power there in that.
Now, Obama, yesterday, aliens are real, but they're not in Area 51.
Two things that are interesting there.
You are clarifying they're real.
You could say, I don't know, but here's what he actually said They're real, but I haven't seen them.
They're not being kept at Area 51.
There's no underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hid it from the President of the United States.
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot there, and the follow up comments are very loose.
They don't follow up on this at all, they leave it.
Just hanging there.
And I think that was the whole point of this lightweight exercise.
It's also interesting, though, because later in that thing, he said, What's the first question you asked?
The interviewer says to Obama, When you got in to be president, and Obama jokingly says, Where's the aliens?
So he's inserting it himself.
He wants this to go wrong.
They have tracked this.
This isn't like, Oh, he spoke off the cuff and he's in so much trouble.
No, Obama knows all about this time of real politics.
And one of the things I want to say about Obama is he's.
Very knowledgeable about the UFO file, but he is one of those presidents who really sidestepped the issue dramatically.
As a matter of fact, if you go in, W. Bush had more plans around the UFO file than Obama did.
I've always found that very, very strange.
And they may just have needed him for a particular thing.
You know, we need this Obamacare consolidation, we need this financial bailout.
And they couldn't have him going over here and meddling with this other piece.
Now, in the background, what you've been hearing also along with this.
Is the fact that President Trump is supposed to give a disclosure speech coming up in July, supposedly for the anniversary of Roswell?
Now, Trump hasn't said anything about it.
This is completely hoisted upon him and by the usual suspects, too the disinformation type agents, the counterintel people.
They've been all spinning.
They've been all spinning.
The only thing that's interesting about all of that for me is that Laura Trump said, you know, in her podcast that, well, you know, there's something going on there.
And I think they're getting ready to disclose something.
This was her comment about her own.
You know, about Trump's administration.
So, you know, we're looking at something there with her saying that.
However, they do love that.
You have to remember Donald Trump Jr. loved to paint that out there too.
He questioned his own dad about Roswell, et cetera.
They know it drives the whole ratings machine, it raises the stakes and all the rest of it.
Right now, a lot of the Trump team is back there licking their wounds over the Bitcoin problem.
And that's a lot of what's going on in the background.
And I would say, and I did, when we got into January, I said, looking back over that first year, That Trump had, he had many successes in that first year.
He did a number of things right on.
As soon as he got rid of the overbearing ICE groups in these particularly Democrat strongholds, like the Minnesota situation, and as soon as he started to wise up on certain issues, then things started to flow again for him.
But if you look back in the actual year of accomplishments of the first term, there's a lot.
There's actually a lot that Trump got into position.
The problem is that the forces inside the administration on the Rubio Side, and I also believe through the Teal Vance side are pushing for this Iran situation.
And that's where everything could unravel if Trump isn't careful.
So that's something that we'll keep an eye on.
It's not going to be featured much in this episode, but I just want everyone to know the Iran thing is the slippery slope because it is the neocons through Rubio as Secretary of State and Trump right there, you know, trying to kind of get back a bone to get control of his own house again.
And the idea of, hey, we'll go in there and we'll attack Iran.
There's no good reason for attacking Iran, zero, at this point.
And you can use all kinds of international pressure on them if you feel like they've been belligerent or whatever.
But you need a real threshold if you're going to invade a country.
And I would also say that the Venezuela action already looked like overreach.
And I think Trump may be able to get away with it because Maduro was such a.
Criminal character, but you can't just roll into a nation of 95 million people in Iran and, you know, take it over or you start bombing them.
So that's not good.
That's on the Trump side, that's really, I think, weighing him down.
So we're going to see how that goes.
One of the things I will say, though, is if he is planning on some kind of July disclosure of some sort, it coincides, of course, with the 250th anniversary of the United States.
Which is what President Nixon wanted to do, according to whistleblower Robert Merritt, who, before he passed away, came on this program and told me about Nixon's plan for disclosure, which was supposed to happen in 1976, which was going to be the 200th anniversary of the United States.
And interestingly enough, that would have been the last year for the outgoing president, but he was going to run for a third term.
This is according to Merritt, based on the idea of this new energy source that they were developing through reverse engineering UFOs at Pine Gap, literally.
Now, it's very interesting because over the years, everything that Robert Merritt has said to me that I've been able to go in and check and double check has turned up gold.
So it makes you wonder his story about Nixon leaving the time capsule disclosure in the White House.
And then you see all these gigantic renovations everywhere.
From Trump in the ballroom to before that, Obama in the garden and all the rest of it really makes you wonder.
Of course, those things happen as a matter of course, but also Merritt's story was so unique and he was such a figure, you know, working in that kind of Watergate world.
And you can go back in like 73, 74 period looking at political magazines and you'll find Merritt back there.
He was in the heart of this and they quietly got him off stage.
But before he died, He got in touch with me and we got two or three very important interviews with him out.
That's all the way back in 2018.
My God.
So, you see how information works.
Something, you know, it comes out there and then eight years later, it comes to fruition.
That's the way it works on this research trail.
Oh, it's so difficult.
Well, look, I will say the Obama thing has to size up as major.
But here's something else that was major.
And it came on the heels of an executive order by President Trump.
Executive Orders on the Moon00:04:41
And it was the executive order was about the moon.
We'll get into that next.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
It's X Series 215 Covert Moon Wars UFO File Secret Tech.
We are back and we're in a special slot here Sunday night this week because our server got attacked on Friday, frying the live stream.
But we're back and we'll be back for you Friday nights, of course, at eight o'clock on a regular basis.
What do you got before I go forward?
Twilight misses.
They're creating a data center and intelligence hub under the White House in bunkers, just like Israel has.
The ballroom is the cover.
I have no doubt, actually.
They probably are.
Oh, they already have those.
They already have those.
They have.
Yeah, but this is.
They have major underground.
This is better.
This is bigger.
They have major underground facilities.
Don't you know about The SCIF that Luna is using to get high level UFO secrets?
Burchett is like, can I bring my cell phone down there?
Is that okay?
All right, that was worth a guffaw at least.
All right, here we go.
Elon Musk is now focused on developing a moon city rather than taking humans to Mars.
Well, that is a little bit different, Mr. Musk.
Isn't that interesting?
Huh.
It's all about the moon now.
Well, you know, there could be a lot of different reasons for that.
And there are some reports that came out that they are, you know, discovering a particular type of element is now plentiful on the moon and they.
Want to concentrate all their efforts on there.
The other piece is that they want to do the Mars part secretly and they didn't like all this overexposure on the Mars situation.
But the Mars moon mission has been on the table now since 1956.
They went to the moon in 69 and we know all of the shenanigans leading up to that.
But that also, just like in Kennedy's speech, it was going to be we choose to go to the moon and Mars.
That comes directly from Lloyd Berkner's influence.
That's where he was, Kennedy was getting the whole drive for space from physicist Lloyd Berkner, who headed up the UFO panel, the Robertson panel.
So, you know, this character Berkner, who I tracked very heavily in JFK The Final Speech, is also the figure who went with Admiral Byrd to Antarctica early on.
We're talking 1928 to 1930.
And Byrd dedicates the book to him.
You know, you're going in very deep lanes of territory when you get around Antarctica.
And the exotic technology.
So, if you find somebody who's an interface with both and they are the influence on Kennedy, you know where this story is going.
You see how this could open up in history.
This is what we've tried to do really keep it factual and really say, look, what was President Kennedy going to do when he was about to be assassinated?
He was going to meet Lloyd Berkner.
They were going to do this massive speech.
Now, I've outlined that very clearly in the JFK final speech documentary, but it comes up tonight because of two figures.
That are around in that period that are trying to steer the space program in a totally different direction, and they come directly out of this paperclip aspect.
And they will actually proceed on through various administrations, keeping the policy going.
And one of them is Walter Dornberger, right at the heart of the German rocket program.
But where did he come from?
What is his influence?
And the fact that we find him in an interplanetary society in 1927.
Along with all the early Germans who will get us to the moon, gives us a lot of answers.
I think that we're going to find there are school activities, secret society activities involved at the very heart of the moon program.
And so when you get around these things about them saying we're going to have nuclear cities on the moon and we're going to have space tourism and all that, you're hitting up against how we got there and all the plans in the mind of the occultists who were working on this.
That's the trick tonight.
And that's why the moon wars.
Refer to simultaneously in the background forces that are trying to kind of command that situation in space, but they also command forces here relating to the mystery schools and the secret societies.
If we get that interface, this one broadcast will change the entire understanding of what we're dealing with.
And that's what we're aiming at here tonight in this special episode, Covert Moon Wars.
Inside NASA's Secret History00:15:21
Miss Olivia, what you got?
Tantrica was asking Have any credible movies from Bird's Mission ever been released?
Well, you know what's interesting is that the majority of the important Bird missions, especially High Jump, are still classified, all of the records that are involved.
And there's a very strange book called Assault on Eternity that comes from the early 80s of people who were associated with Bird who were trying to get answers on all this.
And there's a weird period there where Bird's son dies under mysterious circumstances and he's found in a warehouse dehydrated.
When he was on his way to give his first speech, you know, it had happened 40 years earlier, but he was part of High Jump.
He was like a 22 year old Navy guy, the son of Admiral Byrd.
And he died under very strange circumstances, including being seen in the company of another guy, you know, who was disheveled.
And they were both walking around and they were asking, you know, where Washington, D.C. was, things of this nature.
And, um, When they finally find him, he's in different clothing.
And there's one thing that identifies him.
And that's it.
That's the only way they're able to find out.
He's recovered a month after he disappeared.
And, you know, he lived right over on Beacon Hill here.
So he literally hopped the Amtrak down to DC and disappeared in the middle of some warehouse in Maryland.
I mean, this is quite unusual.
So anytime you get around that stuff, you know, when you get around high jump, you're dealing with the secrets of Antarctica, but you're dealing with something else.
Yeah.
And it's hard to describe exactly what that something else is.
Of course, there's a UFO file aspect to it, but there's also an energy, ionosphere, weapons piece to it.
That's why we're lucky we've had people like Eric Hecker on the program who was there and witnessed some of the things that they were doing in Antarctica more recently.
And, you know, you start to get a handle on it from eyewitness accounts in that.
Brings you that much closer because it's such tight secrecy over the experimental technologies going on down there.
I believe there's something else that happens down there too.
I was just reading about von Braun's visits down to Antarctica.
But I think what happens down there is there's something about the environment that allows them to do the types of testing that they can't do anywhere else, which is why the high secrecy remains so strongly in place.
And I do think that they get an incredible amount, as John Warner's dad told him, Senator Warner, you know.
Antarctica is all about space.
And if we can keep that in mind, everything that's going on down there from the Mars side and all the rest is, you know, it's in this orbit of space.
And part of that's training.
So before we get to Dornberger and then to the esoteric side, I'm going to go in here with some quotes on Gordon Cooper.
And it's funny because I often go into the Gordon Cooper story when I'm talking about the anomalies.
Around NASA missions.
But what I think is so clear cut, and it's the message that somebody who was sworn to secrecy but tried to get the truth out, I've been starting to say over the past 10 or 20 years, I have a good way of identifying who's who in those categories.
I think of them as X share people as opposed to X protect people.
And we know the X protect people are very good at destroying the reputations of the people trying to get these things out.
But Cooper is kind of an undeniable presence.
And the key thing in his background, we have to remember, That he was known as the Kennedy man inside of NASA.
And Kennedy had him doing a lot of secret missions sitting up there, actually over the hot zone.
And of course, we delivered an incredible breakthrough about the hot zone that was found in the Jeffrey Epstein documents, where they're talking about searching for Atlantis and gold off Cuba.
And that took our documentary and our documentary series of the hot zone to another level.
And so we did that episode last week, and there's a lot of weird things that came out around that.
At the end of the month, I'm going to do a huge episode all on the Cuban ruins.
So we'll get into that then.
I've gotten a lot of emails from you guys about those, and I promise you, I will.
I'm going to.
What I come out with at the end of February, I think, is going to change that subject.
All right.
What is key is that in his own words, in his own autobiography, Cooper tells us exactly what they were doing: moon mission, Mars mission.
This is crucial.
It's historical record because he was right in the heart of it.
He was the person working on it.
When Bron was the person in charge of both missions, and he had tapped him for the Mars mission.
So that's on the record here.
It's not something we have to guess about.
Oh, maybe they were talking about it.
No, he talks about it.
So that helps us because it helps us navigate where we are with the Mars mission.
Why are they talking about a Mars mission?
Why are they talking about the moon mission 50 years later?
And the Mars mission was supposed to happen originally in 1966, or at least the full.
Project prep, and they were supposed to be there the second time around 1981.
What happened to those missions?
Let's see what Cooper has to say on this, and then we'll get into his friend Gus Grissom.
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Okay.
Cooper, we had also done a good percentage of the engineering for the flight, hadn't decided whether three or four astronauts would make the trip.
I wanted to mention this.
Von Braun had an idea that this is before Apollo landed a man on the moon.
Von Braun had an idea.
I'm going to send one guy there solo, and we're going to call the project Adam.
And he's going to be Adam.
He's like Adam discovering a new world.
And they built up a lot for this.
He was set to do it first month of 1967.
It got pulled last minute.
But I find Adam.
Shall we say, interesting.
And in light of some of the comments by Elon Musk about taking consciousness to Mars and things like that, we're starting to see an overlay, and we're going to find another rather dramatic overlay with Elon in this.
And so he goes on to say the round trip to Mars would have taken a little more than a year.
The plan was to spend a few weeks exploring the surface and conducting experiments.
Rocks were to be gathered, loaded on board, melted down to use as solid propellant for the return home.
It's pretty advanced for the 1960s, I have to say.
Unfortunately, canceling the Mars mission wasn't enough.
Senators pushed to end the Saturn Rocket program, and so on it goes here, where he talks about his frustration at how these things are getting scrapped.
What he's not talking about is that the secret space program is rising up and getting rid of the public program.
It's not a couple of senators who are upset about spending, that is for sure.
Here's what can happen when politicians get too much power.
To ensure that neither NASA nor any future administration had the option to reschedule a Mars mission or a return trip to the moon, the senators saw to it that the entire Saturn V production and assembly line was shut down, and they got rid of it.
The senator that was involved there was Proxmire.
It was a very strange history.
But what he says this nuclear Nerva engine had been built and ground tested.
And it was set for the Mars mission.
And the Saturn rocket for us would have been used to get us into Earth orbit.
And then they have a rendezvous with this nuclear NERVA mission.
Now, at a certain point in 1966, Von Braun taps our friend on the shoulder, Gordon Cooper, and he says, You're going to Mars.
Get ready.
Get fit.
And he's like, Give me the details.
He's like, You'll hear about it.
Don't worry about it, but get fit.
So he's getting himself together.
A month later, his assistant, when Braun's assistant comes by and says, Remember that mission that he told you about?
Not only don't mention it, but also forget, like, just forget you ever heard anything about it and don't say anything about it, whatever you do.
Here's a little more.
In the early days, there were so many rocket failures.
Von Braun was asked by a reporter, What if it appeared that NASA needed a crash program?
What we need is less crashes and more program, Von Braun said.
Asked what he thought would be the first thing we found in the moon after several early Soviet successes in space.
He answered at this rate an empty vodka bottle.
When Bron had a plan to get an American on the moon some three years earlier, that we eventually did, called Project Atom, his idea was to send one man to the moon and back, a quick trip without any moonwalk.
Just to get someone there safely before the end of the decade and involved using two spacecrafts, one as a fuel tanker, the other to blast off to the moon from space.
His would have been an entirely different approach from that we ended up.
Doing landing a two man team on the moon with an emphasis on conducting lunar research.
There were serious discussions inside NASA in the early 1960s about Project Atom.
Project Atom, I think, is very key here.
People in some quarters thought it was pushing the moon landing up too soon.
In the end, it was decided to take the longer route.
Now, there were programs that were kicking around even in the 1950s about putting a man on the moon and even about satellite programs.
Is as early as the 1940s.
There are sightings of satellites further back than that as well.
So we have to understand that we're dealing with an official history and walking the charter of the official history while trying to figure out what actually happened.
Now, keep in mind what was just going on in those conversations with our friend, Gordon Cooper, because what I'm going to do now is introduce the Stornberger.
Section and what you need to understand, Dornberger.
I'm going to lay out his history as we go, but he's brought over here as, you know, the rocket scientist who's going to become the vice president of Bell Aerospace.
And his background gets stranger and stranger, but I'm going to sort of pick apart various elements of it and show, as I mentioned at the outset, he's very close, he's associated with that initial rocket group coming out of Germany.
It's the Interplanetary Society in 1926 and 27.
They helped Fritz Lang with the Woman in the Moon movie.
And I'm going to show some interesting shots from that as well.
Now, this article is from 1958.
It's in the New York Times, June 5th.
Quote Leading rocket scientists denounced today as a stunt some government sponsored space exploration projects, including rocket shots of the moon.
The scientist, Dr. Walter.
Walter V. Dornberger, who headed Nazi Germany's V 2 program, said that the moonshots scheduled by the Pentagon were all right for prestige reasons, but he thought the United States ought to concentrate on space weapons.
It's June 1958.
Space weapons is the object for the paperclip scientists inside of NASA, including Dornberger, who's the head of the program.
Now, Dornberger, back in the Nazi space program, Nazi rocket days, He is one bronze boss, as we've said.
You know, we've put that out there on a number of shows.
But, you know, he's a hardcore Nazi.
There he is with Himmler.
And this is a guy who really takes the job seriously.
Now, he's set during the judgment at Nuremberg to be hung because they used slave labor building the V 2 rockets.
And he actually is imprisoned for two years as they try to reform him.
And all these notes keep coming back from these various people saying, This guy, I'm going to read you the actual notes.
But they basically say, This guy, there's no reforming him.
He's a through and through Nazi.
And instead, what happens is instead of facing any punishment, he, with the hands of von Braun helping him get in here, and von Braun saying, I can't do anything without him, he comes into this country and he becomes the VP of Bell Aerospace.
Now, he's involved in a very unusual historical incident, which I'm sure you know I'm going to get to next.
But I want to read a little bit more from this article with Dornberger giving his edge in 58 of what he thinks the space program is about.
Dr. Dornberger, Who is technical assistance to Bell Aircraft Corporation, as well as a member of several Defense Department advisory groups, is the main speaker in today's program, National Missile Industry Conference.
The program included a presentation of an award to Miss Esther Goddard, the widow of Robert Goddard, who launched the first liquid propelled rocket in March of 1926.
Where do you think Goddard was set up all that time?
I don't know, where?
Roswell, New Mexico.
That's kind of interesting.
You're firing off the rockets, the only rockets in the United States there in Roswell, 20 years before we're going to have an alien crash there.
Very interesting.
Citing German developments, Dr. Dornberger said at a news conference after his address that if the United States had supported Dr. Goddard the way the German government had supported its rocket scientists, the V 2 would have been developed in this country.
Yeah, because he really wanted this country to develop it, I'm sure.
The V2 was one of the first rocket weapons, and so on.
They talk about the devastation during World War II using this thing.
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Emphasizing his concern over the question of military priorities over projects, such as an effort to photograph the hidden side of the moon, Dr. Dornberger exclaimed, Gentlemen, I didn't come to this country to lose the Third World War.
That's the Russians there.
The issue now is national survival.
Dr. Dornberger declared, he said that the Soviet Union, for example, already possessed a rocket engine with a thrust of 550,000 pounds.
And so they go on back and forth.
Dr. Dornberger assailed the organizational setup of the Pentagon.
He charged that there were too many officials there with the power to say no.
He compared this with his experience in Germany, where he received authorization to proceed with the V 2 in four typewritten lines.
Dr. Dornberger declared that in Europe, the military devised ideas and asked the industry to fulfill them.
And then he goes off in a big tear against the Russians.
Now, this is very important because you can see the hard boiled, we can't let the Russians do this.
They can't get superiority in space.
We need to develop space weapons.
We can't emphasize this moon mission.
Now, it's interesting.
He's not interested because the moon mission for him is hey, this looks like a kind of a peaceful thing in the moon, and it's not getting these weapons in space with a space station that can pinpoint on the ground and blow people away.
Now, it's quite interesting with Dornberger because if you look at his history, of course, you're going to find that when they transfer him, they start to move him around in the United States.
I should say right off the bat that, you know, the paperclip Nazis under von Braun, who got signed up here to work for American corporations, you know, they weren't brought originally to D.C., and they were not brought originally to Huntsville.
Do you know where they were brought?
Where?
Boston, Massachusetts.
Oh, really?
Two months here debriefing, and then sign all the contracts in September.
Then we're going to place you in all these different areas.
My guess is they were spending an awful lot of time over there at MIT.
And of course, Contemporaneous with that would be one Dr. John Trump.
Keep that in mind.
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Dr. Dornberger, General Dornberger is more like it, and Mr. Strange association with the Kennedy assassination.
Well, this is a very interesting thing to kind of bring us around on the moon part because when you're getting into the moon, you're getting into Kennedy.
And if these guys had their Of, you know, bearings through their secret society in the Nazi period to go into space and create a space station with weapons and to go to the moon and Mars.
And then Kennedy comes along and he's co opting that whole paperclip thing to go to the moon on peaceful science missions.
You're already starting to feel the pushback in 1958 from Dornberger saying, let's go in a different direction.
Well, the assassination is five years later.
So keep that in mind as the heat gets turned up on Kennedy and we go forward into that overflow of.
Getting the mission set for the decade of the 1960s, and then Kennedy getting blown away by an official record, an assassin who is living at the protege of Dornberger's house.
How do we like that one?
So you can see this part's going to take us into a deep place because we're going to have to figure out where that influence moved and how, once they got the Apollo missions on the record, they took the entire program black.
And that's where we get so many rumors about this other program.
And I think we're hearing about this other program again.
And this is part of the problem.
I'm going to demonstrate some things about this other secret program.
And part of that, I think, is this piece where suddenly SpaceX has to emphasize living on the moon and they have to de emphasize his huge wet dream, Elon's wet dream of going to Mars, because he's the only one who can bring consciousness there.
So, there's weird things there.
I mean, you could say with Musk, there's instant MKUltra style overemphasis around these certain terms, and Teal using the same type of MKUltra identifiable terms, both having to do with this idea of a savior consciousness in space, saving consciousness to go to the moon.
Teal saying, oh, we need this alien intelligence to save us.
The Avi Loeb trip, Avi Loeb playing all these sides to try to.
Get in on this.
That's our Harvard astrophysicist over here who's always telling us that the next big object that's coming in is coming to take over the planet.
He started with a mua mua and he went down hard.
He went down hard with the last one.
This is the headline for that article I just read.
US shot at moon opposed as stunt.
Developer of Nazi V2 urges country to concentrate on space weapons.
Yeah, June 1958.
On the record, you see.
Now, here's another interesting thing.
If you go back in this era, you're going to find there are all kinds of presentations by Dornberger, 58, 59, and 60, all about how they're going to dominate space.
One of the things he wants to do is this whole let's go up into space and it's going to be very easy.
This comes right out of Dornberger's brochure about how we can take people up in space.
Wow, that's great.
This is his vision, okay?
It's basically like, you know, Space age air flight, but there's something creepy about an ex Nazi administering it.
You think?
Exactly.
Lee Harvey Oswald.
Now, we've put forward with Lee Harvey Oswald that he's directly connected with aerospace.
The entire assassination, the heart and the root of the assassination is exotic weapons in aerospace.
We've put it on the record.
It's very hard to refute.
Because anywhere you go in that assassination, as we've demonstrated over and over again, as you turn in that carousel, carousel club, you are going to find yourself surrounded by aerospace people or outright UFO people.
There's no question about it.
And you're going to find people like Oswald saying, I'm going to work for aerospace.
I'm going to work at NASA when he's leaving Riley Coffee Company in the summer of 1963.
That's just a short line.
When you're following Oswald, you can follow him all the way over to Russia.
You can have them putting him in Minsk in that very interesting physics factory, a radio factory where all these physicists show up.
He sits there for two years and he's talking to physicists before he's coming back.
And when he comes back, his trail is very unusual.
But one of the most unusual things about it is that he and his wife will end up with Ruth Payne, and Michael Payne is Ruth Payne's husband.
Michael Payne, as I mentioned, is the protege at Bill Helicopter and Bill Aerospace of Dornberger.
So there's this overlap, an instant feeling right away that Dornberger, who's at the very heart of the Project Paperclip program, who the British are the people who are interrogating him, are saying he can't be reformed.
We might as well just send him, sign him up for hanging at Nuremberg.
The fact that this guy is housing the accused assassin, the person who will be the accused assassin of the 35th president, and that that president is diametrically opposed in spirit, in record, you know, to the nature of space missions.
His identification with space is all about making it a war free zone.
And Gordon Cooper goes on about that a great deal in his book.
I'm going to read more quotes from Cooper.
In a moment here.
But now I think we've identified a very serious link here about the moon program, NASA, the Nazis, where it came from, and then the people who had co opted the paperclip Nazis to build it here.
And then at the heart of that is somebody who's very non militaristic in his view on space, and that is President John F. Kennedy.
John F. Kennedy will take in 1961 Gordon Cooper aside and say, I want you to do a number of secret missions for me, and I want you to report back directly to me on these.
So he's going to go up there.
He's going to sit in a capsule over Cuba.
He's going to sit in a capsule over the Bahamas and he's going to pinpoint different things that are going on on the ground.
The other missions that he may have done for Kennedy relating to space and UFO observation, well, that's also interesting to think about.
This is Michael Payne, who I mentioned.
And what I want to say is that his mother, Ruth Forbes Payne, is one of the.
Millionaire members of the Nine.
And the Nine is a clairvoyant group which believes that Osiris, yes, Osiris, the mythological god figure in Egyptian mythology, is sitting outside of the Van Allen belt, the United States, the globe, and he's sitting out there communicating with them.
And the Nine is sitting there with some of the most important.
Families in the world, some of the big bloodline families are represented there who are interested in this extracurricular psychic activity and the messaging that they're getting through this Indian clairvoyant.
Um, I bring that up because I don't think there's any mistake or any accident with the fact that the Dornberger pain overlay includes an occult bell ringing in the background because I think the entire space thing revolves around an occult angle, and when we get the deeper.
Mystery school information about the esoteric value of it for humanity, the whole thing starts to play out and makes more sense.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
Oh, my God.
First of all, I have so many fantastic questions.
We could just stop.
Okay.
So Robert says Could a group related to the mystery of the airships in the 1800s had gotten to the moon before anyone else and being Prussians in origin, therefore the German connection to the Nazi space program?
Yeah.
I think when you think about the UFO file, All right.
Tonight, we're coming in from the level that aliens are real.
So, the developed groups here are one thing, and we can track them very interestingly.
They seem to be moving along in a very advanced fashion by the time you get to the mid 18th, 19th century.
But if you think about the UFO file and then you think about it as an off world piece, Then you already have somebody going, hanging out on Mars, hanging out on the moon, using this as a base, coming back and ping ponging all around.
It makes it easier in a way for us to look at this because it gives us some context.
And I think it might end up being the most accurate way to look at it.
But in terms of a group here who was trying to get to the moon, I don't think you can rule it out.
Whoever was orbiting around with the UFO, Craft, there's no question those people could go anywhere, you know.
So, but we're coming down on it that those are aliens coming in for tonight's purposes.
It's going to open up some questions because what we're going to see part of this is an imitative action.
We're going to see the secret groups imitating this other technology that they're viewing.
One of the things I want to say there's a big program since we're talking about the late 50s coming out of Russia to try and demonstrate that von Braun was a big old Nazi.
And this is a book that came out trying to demonstrate all the kind of Nazi atrocity stuff and lay it right on von Braun.
Von Braun, it's very interesting.
I think, you know, of course, NASA cleaned up his history quite a bit.
He was there.
I don't think that he really was somebody who he could say is anywhere in the league of Dornberger, but the fact that he worked for Dornberger, who was such a dyed in the wool, hardcore Reich.
Loving Nazi.
You know, you have to say it's a very unusual situation for America.
And you can see why they try to keep this until von Braun's death.
They kept it very low profile.
So he's basically an American space hero.
This is a review of a book.
And there's a couple of interesting things in here.
The book comes out in 1954.
And it is a book by Dornberger talking about hey, we can get to space and we can control everything from space.
The book is called V2, and this is a New York Times review of it by James Clough.
In the early 1930s, a group of young Germans led by Werner von Braun were playing with rockets on the outskirts of Berlin, their object to fly to the moon.
Their enthusiasm was great, but their funds were low, and their rockets behaved as might be expected from a basement built contraption.
I don't think they were basement built contraptions at all.
Twelve years later, the great V2 rocket slanted down on London, 3,600 miles per hour.
The story of the V 2s has usually been told by young enthusiasts.
Now it is told by a German general who put them to work for the German army.
Under his direction, the rocketeers' dreams of space flights turned into a hard headed weapons project, then into a nightmare as the Nazi government fell into corruption and Hitler's Reich turned to rubble under Allied attack.
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Now it's all very interesting because, of course, we know that Dornberger didn't mind the Nazis getting more and more, shall we say, militaristic.
An imperialist.
Dornberger's book is rather confused but highly instructive.
It tells in detail how the V2s were developed.
There's no doubt about the brilliance of the rocket engineers who worked at the great Pinamunda base.
And then he goes on, but here's the key quote in this for me, and listen closely.
He's talking about how, you know, the American government is not putting enough into the space weapons, and they really need to get behind.
This and that, you know, this is something that will be historic and all the rest of it.
Now, what's interesting though is he's going back and they're talking about Hitler's finally persuaded to watch a V2 flight after not being kind of hot and cold about it.
And then he became wildly enthusiastic but demanded that the one ton warhead be increased to 10 tons when told that this was technically impossible.
No, this is Dornberger saying, he cried, but I want what I want is annihilation and annihilating effect.
Dornberger had to explain that the V2s, in effect, were long range artillery, even if they worked perfectly.
He recalls regretfully that Germany had given up trying to make an atomic bomb.
Well, if Germany had made the atomic bomb, and of course we know they really actually did, then they would have been dropping it on Manhattan, right?
With the Manhattan bombers.
So it's very weird for him to wistfully be like, you know, we should have developed that atomic bomb.
So we're getting very clear the picture and the personage of who Dornberger is.
And I go back to the original interrogator's comments saying this guy can't be reformed.
I will read his comments too tonight.
If the V2 had been armed with an atomic bomb, it might very well have won the war.
Why no one realized this is probably explained by the amazing lack of coordination among Nazi bigwigs.
Dornberger discovered in 1943 that practically no one at Hitler's headquarters had ever heard of the enormous Pennemunda base.
I'm sure that's ridiculous.
But you can see Dornberger positioning himself in all of these things in books, in interviews, and all the rest of it.
And he's the voice of reason.
We have to go against those Russians.
Now, fast forward to 1960, and you have somebody coming into office after winning against President Nixon, Vice President Nixon, who his dream is to reduce nuclear tensions and to basically make friends with the Russians and to step back from basically World War III with nukes and the nuclear holocaust,
where even the Fruits of victory would be ashes in our mouths, as President Kennedy said.
So, one of the things that's going on there, as I mentioned, is there's a war in the background, and it's basically the Russians on one hand and Dornberger types on the other.
And the Russians are putting out all this stuff saying, Look, you know, von Braun was hardcore, he was a hardcore Nazi, and he's in charge of the space program.
What are you guys doing?
This is a note from that Space Age Chronicle.
About this.
In a desperate attempt to slow down America's race to the moon, the Soviet government published the book, German or Secret of Huntsville, written by Julius Mater.
It was released in East Germany.
It distorted the involvement of Wernher von Braun, Kurt Davis, and other German rocket experts, hoping Americans to expel them from working in the U.S. space program.
I find this, and I'm sure they were working with good facts in doing this, but I find this PR effort very interesting because what the Russians are trying to do is tell the American public, you know, they know that the Americans grabbed the bulk of these paperclip scientists.
They also grabbed their own, by the way.
And they would have grabbed these guys too if we hadn't.
So that's just the way it goes at the end of the war, you know, you're grabbing for the spoiled.
And there's not, you're not going to sit down and have a kind of a conversation with them about morality when you're fighting World War II, right?
But it is quite fascinating because.
What you see is a cat and mouse game going on in the background where the Russians really see the threat of the German group now re coordinated, rising inside the national security state of America.
And they're almost trying to tip off the Americans like, you can't trust these people.
And I don't think it's so much to slow their march to the moon, it's to be like, we don't want to face off in space with nukes.
Now, you know, the Russians had their own martial philosophy in that period.
But you can also see President Kennedy coming in and saying, look, you know, we can do this together.
We can go to the moon together.
We can do a joint moon mission.
All that's on the record now.
And what we've put forward is that the forces inside of this machinery, the national security state, assassinated President Kennedy during that period where he was setting out the moon mission because he was trying to share the UFO file with the Soviets as part of that moon mission.
This is the thing that needs to click.
If we're going to get the history part right, if we're going to understand so many of the forces that are going on in the background relating to aerospace and these other things, you have got to understand the aerospace deep state angle.
Because if it's just, you know, if we're just around this malaise about, you know, this state actor or, you know, this particular set of files, whatever it is, you're just going to go around and around.
And one of the things with the Epstein files that I'll mention here, we were able to pull out some really dramatic stuff there.
And some people have done some good work on it.
However, it is getting exploited also.
And there's a flooding the zone aspect.
So you have to be very, very careful.
That it's not just Twitter bait that they're putting out there and that you're getting the solid, real stuff.
Now, when you get to the solid, real stuff, we also have to consider when you get around these things where the value is.
Where is the value asset in the trend of the information?
And if it's more around opening up information around these victims and how they can press these cases, then that's good.
But if they keep going around in corporate media and independent media with You know, salacious stories.
Epstein's already dead.
You know, you can't prosecute him for anything.
He's already in the ground.
And his associates have clocked off the clock in a number of these cases.
That is, the time clock has wound down for them.
So, what is the object?
There's a kind of an object of grabbing attention for it.
You need a goal, I think, when you're going through this type of information, which is to make the research tell the story of what was going on.
And I've pointed this out in the Kennedy assassination because you've got 60 years of cover up there.
And you can get obfuscated and they can throw you in so many different directions with the Kennedy thing that by the end of the exercise, you won't know where you stand, right?
Some people will be thinking you've got Cubans or mafia or whatever it happens to be involved, and they'll lose the central intelligence angle.
Let me tell you, that's by design.
And it is the central intelligence angle.
Angle that is the one that is being obfuscated in the case of those records.
I'm going to get to that as we move along here through this fascinating episode X Series 215.
This is what we're talking about the covert moon wars.
They just changed the mission for SpaceX to be like, forget about Mars.
We need to make functional space stations on the moon now, baby.
And Artemis, where's Artemis?
Wasn't Artemis supposed to already be up there?
They're having all kinds of problems.
Well, Artemis is going back to the moon, don't you know?
The only problem is it's You know, how many years later?
52 years after the last mission, 53 now, 54, 1972.
What have you been doing with yourself, Artemis and NASA and the space program?
54 years without a manned mission.
Astonishing.
Well, obviously, you've had those missions.
We just haven't heard about them.
This is Covert Moon Wars UFO Files, Secret Tech.
We're going deep, deep with you tonight.
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We're going to take your questions in the second half here.
So, like, I'll be done with the presentation.
Let's say in about 20 minutes, we'll take your questions.
In the meantime, What do you got?
On that note, Doc Miner says, Why did we never go back to the moon when the next mission was already planned?
And Mr. Thomas says, It was planned and paid for already.
Yes.
All right.
So it's a fact on the record that they had already paid for the missions.
So whenever somebody says, Oh, they couldn't afford it, that's bunk, right?
That's literally one of those lines that they just throw out there.
It's one of those lines that's like, The government's so incompetent, they didn't know what to do.
What I want to do, I want to round out this section on Dornberger and von Braun, and then I want to bring us into the kind of esoteric latitudes, the occult latitudes, the mystery school latitudes,
all dealing with the moon coming in from this different angle and see where that crisscross happens because we have the Germans.
In this case, we're very, very close to these secret societies being fueled by these ideas and the deep histories of the schools.
Now, the Society for Space Travel was a German rocket association prior to World War II that included members outside Germany.
The first successful test firing with liquid fuel was concluded by Max Vellier in January 1930.
These are some of the earliest official tests, like Goddard.
Goddard's activating there in 1926.
These are the on the record ones, remember.
We know they're an older program.
We know this is a 19th century program.
But this is what we have.
In September 1930, before Hitler came to power, this society requested funding from the German army.
Rockets were one of the few types of military development not restricted under the Versailles Treaty.
It's very sneaky.
The Berlin rocket launching sites.
For three years, the society launched increasingly powerful rockets with their own design from this location.
In the spring of 1932, Walter Dornberger, his commander, Captain Ritter Horstig, viewed a VFR launch.
This is the name of the group, VFR.
And Dornberger subsequently issued a contract for a demonstration launch.
Werner von Braun, who was then a young student, had joined the group two years earlier.
He was in favor of the contract.
The group eventually rejected the proposal.
And the dissension caused during its consideration contributed to the society dissolving itself in 1934.
But when they come together back here in 1927, one of the things that they do is they consult with our friend Fritz Lang, the famous director, incredible German director, who comes over here to Hollywood and does these incredible movies Clash by Night and all these other movies.
But over there, he does these fantastic movies like M.
And some of the best German cinema of all time, they approach him to make kind of pro Nazi movies.
And he's like, sure, I'll do it.
And then he escapes.
That's the story.
But before all that happens, take a look at this.
That's 1927.
This from the desk of director Fritz Lang.
Just think to yourself Apollo mission is waiting for you 40 years later.
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The conceptual sketch is right there by the Rocket Society.
There's no question.
They're giving him that edge.
That's why that movie.
A woman in the moon is so advanced as this kind of silent movie.
And of course, he'll also do an advanced AI style movie in 1930, Metropolis.
Any real film buff has seen that one, but if you haven't, I highly encourage it.
So the society, and if I was real good at German, I'd pronounce it, but basically the translation is Society for Space Travel.
Thank God.
You want to take a crack at that?
Look at it.
I can't do that.
Do it.
The top baron for realm shift hearts.
I like it, yes.
Okay.
That's the society I believe that is building this up in the background, and they have an esoteric purpose.
Now, in that period of the 1920s, you have anthroposophy, and anthroposophy is very much the opposite of what these guys want to do with the Tula society and the various groups that are kind of occult Germany in that period.
What Steiner is trying to do is set up the world, the culture.
Of the West to be ready for this harmonic descent of values and for the world war and for the 21st century takeover with technology.
So he brings in these very, very deep concepts.
He also gives lectures on biodynamic farming.
He creates all these programs.
Of course, the Waldorf School becomes one of the most famous.
But it's quite important for us to concentrate on what it was.
What's going on in this period because you've got the kind of left hand path and right hand path schools, the right left split there.
So the secret societies versus the mystery schools.
And Steiner's there as the public mystery school, bringing this information out.
And on the other side, the exotic technology people, the Dornbergers and stuff, they're gathering in their forces.
And those people will be at the heart of getting us to the moon.
Again, the moon is the goal here.
But what's the esoteric side?
If we can see it from Steiner's side, we know on the other side they've got their own goal with what represents the moon for them.
Yeah, what do you got?
Well, there's some great questions about the Steiner teachings.
Do you want them now?
Oh, well, I think you're going to want the quotes first, and then we're going to zigzag, but I'm glad they're there.
Here's the thing I've got some.
Here's the three things that we have, and I'm going to roll this into the rest of the actual presentation.
We've got Gurdjieff and Ospensky, what they had to say about this.
We have the Steiner work, what he had to say about it.
And we had Edgar Cayce, what he had to say about it.
We're going to roll them all into this next segment.
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It's all in here.
And this is the potent information.
It's got the sources, it has the deep piece.
And, you know, as somebody who's been plagiarized quite a bit recently over my Hot Zone work, I can tell you that, you know, I love citing sources in my own work for other people because I love bringing that work forward.
So it's kind of, I've been deciding that a lot of social media and independent media is descending in this period.
You know, I've called it the kind of pop click period, but one of the things it's descending into is a thiefdom fiefdom.
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So there has to be a way to reverse that track.
And I think the best way to do it is to provide the potent information and to give the sources behind it.
And then, you know, the original detailing of the sources is what gives you that potent quality.
This is how it speaks to me.
This is how I've been able to do it, that kind of a thing, versus, you know, somebody watches a couple of your shows or reads your book or whatever, and then they run on all these podcasts running their mouths off because the hosts don't know anything.
That's the state of most of independent media.
And that's a big problem because you're losing the potency.
Everything is getting watered down into some pop click headline, and you're going to have the host's face, you know, with the mouth wide open and all the rest of it, you know, and the alien head.
That's what it's descending into.
It doesn't have to be like that at all.
I want to say this too before I get into the esoteric section.
The struggle really is there, even in that photo.
And it is President Kennedy's vision of peace in space and the new frontier and going into it with different nations so that we don't take war out there into space with us.
And he came up with the original treaty language around making this stuff, you know.
Easy.
You know, we don't have to put weapons up there.
We'll just put scientific investigation, research weapons up there.
The one of the switches that I think the Trump administration should change back is when they made space a warfighting domain.
I think that they should announce a reversal on that policy and say, you know, under no circumstances should space be a warfighting domain.
That should be kind of priority one for the Space Force.
And, um, So, I understand the desire to dominate space, but the problem is if you bring those militaristic tendencies that we have on Earth, where you can't get out of situations like Ukraine, Russia, you can't get out of situations like bombing Iran, you can't get out of Israel, Gaza, you can't drag that into space.
This is what Kennedy understood.
And if we had a model that took us into space together for other reasons besides militaristic reasons, then we'd be going somewhere.
This is, you know, like the nuclear test ban treaty.
These are the essential Kennedy policies.
It's why Kennedy is so important and why he's set our world on such a different path, and also why he was eliminated.
And I'm sure over the more advanced subjects that we're facing up against now on the UFO file, and part of this and how it will come out eventually, this is the clash.
This is Kennedy being too far ahead of his time and wanting to build.
A, you know, Camelot, a new Camelot.
So, um, we have to remember Kennedy and that clash and his removal is the crucial step.
It's the crucial shift.
That's where everything shifts and everything that we've played out into our own lives, even if it happened, you know, like decades before I was born, or, you know, if you have to go back to a parent or a grandparent or whatever it is, wherever it is in that.
That's where the real shift took place.
And that's the shift that we're talking about here as we get into it.
Because trust me, the Kennedy era is, you know, if you backend that with the SpaceX corporate takeover era of space, you've got mirror opposites there.
And there's a reason why the launch of the space program is so, so important.
Okay.
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Steiner, Rudolf Steiner.
Look, we've done so many shows on Steiner.
Steiner is so crucial.
And in my own work, he's been a guiding light since I was about nine years old, reading his work.
And the only thing I can tell you is the more I've read it, the more it's been confirmed.
So it's remarkable what he was giving us in that period of time, and very openly and honestly, I believe.
But he was somebody who came from a very deep strain of the mystery schools and was trying to get this information out and had originally worked with Theosophy and done very well with them while they were doing well.
And then felt that they had taken a wrong turn by trying to take this incredibly talented mystic, Krishnamurti, and make him the world teacher, you know, try to get this ascended master to basically occupy the body of this Hindu teenager.
That whole thing, Steiner said, is enough for me.
I don't know where you guys are going, but I'm not going there.
And, um, So he split company with Annie Besant.
And Besant is so important.
So it's too bad, in a sense, the way that that unraveled at the time.
But what came out of it was anthroposophy.
Steiner gives us some real ideas and information about the moon from an esoteric side, which helps us to understand what it means to humanity's role in the future and what it represents in our kind of spiritual evolution.
But he also gives very concrete examples of why it is coveted.
By these darker secret societies.
So, there's a couple of questions here speaking about the Atlanteans.
And when they refer to root races and root epochs and things of this nature, they're talking about waves of advancement of humanity.
This is Steiner.
The Atlanteans also, for example, had the capacity to control the life force in a certain way.
He's speaking about.
Those who were there on the continent of Atlantis, which occupied on one side, you know, the Mediterranean, the other side, the Gulf of Mexico or Gulf of America, as they say.
But on the other hand, they had nothing for the gift of which the fifth root race possesses of storytelling.
There are as yet no myths and fairy tales among them.
The life mastering power of the Atlanteans first appeared among the members of our race under the mask of mythology.
In this form, it could become the basis of the intellectual activity of our time.
The great inventors among us are incarnations of seers of the Atlanteans.
This is very important.
And the Atlanteans were a psychic group.
As much as you had a civilization, it's a civilization of psychics.
The great inventors among us are incarnations of the seers of the Atlanteans.
In their inspirations of genius and manifesting what has as its basis something else, something That was like our life producing power during this time of the Atlantean incarnation.
Our logic, our knowledge of nature, technology, and so forth grow from a foundation which was laid in Atlantis.
If, for instance, an engineer could transform his combining faculty backward, something would result which has the power of the Atlantean.
Secret sciences have always existed, they have cultivated in the so called mystery schools.
Only the one who underwent certain tests could learn something of them.
He was always told only as much as was appropriate for his intellectual, spiritual, and moral faculties.
He was never given too much, is what Steiner's saying here, that would imbalance him or, you know, make him lose his bearings.
They understood the levels of who they were dealing with.
This had to be so, for when properly used, the higher insights are the key to a power which must lead to misuse in the hands of an unprepared, Some of the elementary teachings of the mystery science have been popularized in the science of the spirit.
The reason for this lies in the conditions prevailing in our time, 1920, okay, with respect to the development of the understanding of mankind today and its more advanced members, has progressed to the point where sooner or later it would of itself attain certain conceptions which were previously part of secret knowledge.
Things like going into space, things like the atomic period, you know, these are part of the things that he's referencing.
Humanity is already starting to apprehend them.
So, what's happening is this push in the mystery schools, the late 19th century, early 20th century, is to get some of the secrets out so the culture doesn't veer off into this totally materialistic trip and to give them a buffer so that they don't separate off their spirituality from their physical reality.
With respect to the development of the understanding of mankind today, oh, I'm sorry.
Mankind today would acquire these conceptions in an atrophied, caricatured, and harmful form.
In other words, they're picking up on these things, but they don't have the spiritual root behind them.
But it would require these conceptions in an atrophied, caricatured, and harmful form.
Therefore, some of those who are initiated into secret knowledge have decided to communicate a part of it to the public.
It will thus become possible to measure human advances which take place in the course of cultural development.
With the measuring rod of true wisdom.
Our knowledge of nature, for example, does lead to the ideas about the causes of things.
But without deepening through mystery science, these ideas can only be distortions.
Today, mankind needs the same truths in a rational form.
The world outlook of the science of the spirit is not an arbitrary development.
Even today, certain parts of secret knowledge can only be communicated to those who undergo the tests of initiation.
Only those who will be able to make use of the published part, who do not limit themselves to an external noting of it, but who really assimilate these things internally and make them the content and guiding principle in their lives.
It is not a matter of mastering the teachings of the science of the spirit with the understanding, but of permeating the feelings, emotions, and the whole life with them.
So Steiner's giving us a big key there as I go into the moon section now.
He's saying you can't just know the technical details.
And you can't just run this through the meter of how you read a book or just absorb information.
You have to feel the weight of it.
And you have to be able to align yourself with that, or else it just atrophies.
It doesn't do the trick.
This is what Steiner is getting at.
Now, Steiner on the moon.
There's a very big revelation in here that's been overlooked in Steiner's work, but it shows, I believe, why some of the darker cult groups are so.
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Fixated on the moon.
And I think that's where the fixation of the Nazis and the Nazi scientists to misuse the moon.
And I think this is still the active force in the space program.
So I'm going to read this now.
And well, before I read it, Miss Olivia, what do you got?
Joseph Farrell, DJ, exactly what was the wrong turn that Steiner thought Theosophy had taken and when did it take it?
This was a period after 1905.
And what had happened was originally he had an incredibly close relationship, and he had gone over to England to get a handle and a feel for what it was like.
And, you know, he could tell that at the, he says, the cradle of theosophy, true initiators stood, and the whole kind of magic of Blavatsky and all the rest of it.
And then he felt that Besant had a very moral character to her, but he felt that she just, you know, didn't have.
What she was more impatient in a sense than Blavatsky was, and Blavatsky was really coming from this higher level.
And she had a number of people around her that, like Ledbetter, that Steiner didn't think had the best interests and that they were more concerned.
And what he ultimately decided was that she was being used by these German and Hindu philosophers, and he said that they were trying to influence theosophy for political purposes and they were getting away with it.
And what they had decided to do was convince Besant that this world teacher could come through the figure of Krishnamurti, which they did.
And Steiner parted company with them.
He did a little bit more with them after this initial break.
But then, because at a certain point, when he was a very unknown teacher, it was Besant who was saying, You can head up the German branches of theosophy.
So she was giving him this incredible break.
Now, I will say this about that period, which is there's a big clash between these groups and who's going to lead things.
But what Steiner decides at a certain point, long after the clash with theosophy is over and he started anthroposophy, is that he thinks that the mystery schools have failed because of World War I.
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And he thinks even anthroposophy has failed.
So, what he decides to do is the information that they would normally keep back, he lets out because he's like, you know, we need the culture has to start to pick up on these things.
And keeping it in these small groups, even though it's kind of, you know, it's been the way all this period of time, and we have to be careful with how it comes out, you know, we can't leave humanity in this state.
So, what he says is that there's going to be a doorway that opens, and it's in 1921 that he makes the speech.
He says, in 100 years, the mystery schools will have the opportunity with anthroposophy again to pick up, basically, what we're doing in that stretch of time.
So, that kicked off in 2021.
And you can see and you can start to feel that, um, The Steiner information now.
As somebody who's followed it my whole life, I'm telling you, you know, when I was originally doing shows about Steiner, a very small group knew anything about Steiner.
And I think coming in on a particular edge in the way that, you know, we've been able to put the shows together and work on the topics like the eighth sphere, and the eighth sphere comes up tonight as well.
And also the work of Gigi Young, you know, bringing that whole thing gives the.
Much larger tapestry of Steiner's work for this period.
That's what I can see.
So it's very interesting to me now.
Steiner's work, you know, really feels like this is the time.
Yeah, what do you got?
G. Myers Gilmer says in the Steiner teachings, human etheric and astral bodies being prepared through a process of spiritual, quote, incorporation, unquote, during the moon stage, essentially forming a spiritual container equals evolving soul.
Also, is there a direct or symbolic connection between Gurdjieff's soul lost to the moon and the Steiner Blavatsky teachings about the moon being a body beside our physical moon related to the moon wars?
Well, that's a good point, actually.
This Gurdjieff-Ospensky information, I'm going to read from it.
We'll get them all in here since this is a long-awaited episode.
What about the DEEPRA disc?
I have that info too.
What are we on here?
Let's see.
Well, we've got, we're at an hour and a half now.
So, I'll tell you what I'll do.
I'll present for about 15 more minutes and then we'll take your questions.
How's that?
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And I'll tell you the last question is interesting to me because one of the things that we need to understand is you have the moon, the physical body of it, and then the moon as the sphere, which is something that's seen from a clairvoyant level.
And so you're going to have a certain amount of scientific information from the actual body of the moon, but then you're going to need something else to penetrate into what its meaning is.
But in terms of its actual physical development, look, the mystery schools are pretty clear about this.
And we, you know, there are all kinds of interesting things about, you know, something coming in and a piece of it coming off and capturing it in our orbit.
But in Steiner's work, the moon comes directly out of the earth.
And when it leaves the earth, there's an incredibly vulnerable period for the development of humanity.
And that's the period where the harmonic force attaches itself to the evolution of humanity.
And it's interesting if you are a student of the Gurdjieff work, you're going to find a period back there where he talks about the moon leaving the earth and how it was such a traumatic event for humanity that it developed an organ called the Kunda buffer, which would always see things not as they actually were.
But, you know, in some kind of a turned around buffer way that it could deal with this incredibly traumatic event.
So, there is a name that Gurdjieff gives in some of his work about this moon piece.
And what he says is that the Atlanteans had two different moons one regular size, one the one we see now, and then a smaller one.
And that the culture at large has forgotten about this smaller one, which was a fragment of the other one, and that it's basically invisible to us now.
So, and the naming of it is interesting because I traced back the meaning of the name.
Since I mentioned it before, I read the Steiner Moon part, I'll just give you the name so we're all on the same page there.
But that person was absolutely right that the Gurdjieff sense, he feels that we are basically humanity's food for the moon, as he calls it, in the great chain of things that are going on.
But, um, well, I'm, and when you say that, I immediately think of Luche.
I mean, is there any connection to that idea?
Yeah, yeah.
Although, um, I haven't been too fond of that because I, I think it goes into part of this.
Um, what it is is any group that thrives off of fear, they generate fear, and so they live off the emotions of that.
And, uh, once in a while, this name comes up about what it is.
But I'm going to read this, which is The Cause of the Genesis of the Moon.
This is a Gurdjieff piece.
Then we'll go to the Steiner piece.
Of these two fragments, the larger was named Ludaperzo, the smaller Anulius.
The Anulius is the one I want to keep track of here.
So the regular moon and Anulius.
The ordinary beings who afterward arose and were formed on the planet, also at first, called them by these names.
But the beings of later times called them different names in different periods.
The most recent version of the larger fragment came to be called the moon.
But the name of the smaller one has been gradually forgotten.
That is this Nullius.
This comes from Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson, which is a Gurdjieff book, which is kind of like the James Joyce Ulysses version of Gurdjieff's teaching.
It has all of these tangents, and yet it's potent.
The impact of the book is quite remarkable.
As for the beings there now on Earth, that is, he's talking to his grandson from space.
He's in a spaceship, by the way.
And this is Gurdjieff Wright in the 1930s.
It's rather interesting.
It's interesting to notice here that the beings of a continent of that planet called Atlantis, which afterwards perished, still knew of the second fragment of their planet and called it Anulius.
But the beings of the last period on the same continent, in whom the results, the consequences of the properties of that organ called the Kunda buffer, about which it now seems I will have to explain to you even more in great detail, had begun to be crystallized and become part of the common presences.
And the meaning for them, which is never allowing one to sleep in peace.
They called the smaller fragment Keem Spa.
So Annullius, Keem Spa, these are names for this other fragment.
And it's known, the interpretation is never allowing one to sleep in peace.
So it's a disruptive, chaotic, cosmic element that has a negative effect on humanity, is basically what he's saying.
The problem is, most of humanity do not even suspect its existence.
Do not even suspect its existence.
That's rather interesting.
Not only has this planet itself now again acquired a normal movement in the general cosmic equilibrium, but it has two detached fragments with it, which, as I have already told you, are called the Moon and Anulios.
They have also acquired a normal movement and have become, although small, yet independent.
That is additional planets in the solar system.
So, Gurdjieff is giving us strange information here regarding the moon, but he's starting to say, well, you know, there's another piece here that people have just forgotten about, so they don't even know that it's out there.
And what's remarkable about that to me is that when you read Aspensky's work on Gurdjieff, It's so regimented, and he spent so much time with him getting the teaching down to a system that he pulls kind of the gold out of what Gurdjieff is saying.
And here's what he says in In Search of the Miraculous.
What interested me in a talk was that G. Gurdjieff spoke of the planets and the moon as living beings having definite ages, definite period of life, and possibilities of development and transition to other planes.
Of being.
From what he said, it appeared that the moon was not a dead planet, as is usually accepted, but on the contrary, a planet in birth.
Quote This is Gurdjieff talking.
The moon is growing and developing, and sometime it will possibly attain the same level as Earth.
Then near it, a new moon will appear, and the Earth will become their sun.
At one time, the sun was also like the Earth, and the Earth like the moon, and earlier still, the sun like the moon.
So, Ouspensky starts to talk about how this is totally different than the scientific conception of that period.
And we're talking about 1920 again here.
This is Gurdjieff again.
For instance, the evolution of humanity beyond a certain point, or so to speak, more correctly, above a certain percentage, would be fatal for the moon.
The moon at present feeds on organic life on humanity.
Humanity is part of organic life.
This means humanity is food for the moon.
If all men were to become too intelligent, they would not want to be eaten by the moon.
But at the same time, the possibilities of evolution do exist, and they may be developed in separate individuals with the help of appropriate knowledge and methods.
Such development can only take place in the interests of the man himself, against, so to speak, the interests and forces of the planetary world.
The man must understand this his evolution is necessary only to himself.
No one else is interested in it, and no one is obliged.
Or intends to help him.
This is the edge of the Gurdjieff work, the fourth way, which is you have to do everything yourself.
And the over reliance and the constant, you know, thinking that your spiritual forces are just going to rescue you and you don't have to do anything is an interesting twist.
And it's very kind of anti theosophy in a way, because it's coming in and saying, you've got to really do this yourself.
And that there's no kind of hidden masters that are going to do it for you.
But when it comes to the moon, what Gurdjieff is saying is that there's a process that's going on in the cosmos, and that humanity is kind of inserted into that process.
And it is the organic life on Earth that's sending its energy to the moon.
And that the whole mechanical basis of the universe that humanity is basically trying to evolve out of is.
Because there's more and more attack on your free will in these environments.
And so he said, if we had a civilization that was on the moon, they'd have twice as many laws, physical laws, as we have on us here.
And you'd basically be an automaton.
You'd have no way to have any kind of free will.
And here on Earth, again, you only have so much free will based on what's going on physically in the environment.
These teachings are coming in from this mystery level, and I think what's happening is there are different schools getting together and saying, You know, we put a certain amount of that out on the theosophical side, and people started to think that they were talking all the time to Saint Germain and they weren't getting anywhere.
Then we put in, you know, these other different types of efforts, and it looks like they're going awry.
Let's introduce the Gurdjieff work and get everything down to earth, which is.
Humanity is asleep.
It needs to wake up in order to spiritually evolve.
And all of that has to do with, you know, basically us standing up and doing it.
And you have to basically find the knowledge to do it.
And that's the story of Gurdjieff, which is he found the Sarmung Brotherhood.
They were the mystery school that showed him how to do it.
And then he came out and taught everyone else how to do it.
But I think it's interesting because you can separate Gurdjieff's work, say, from the Beelzebub period in the late 30s and early 40s from the 1915 Ospensky, 1921, somewhere in there.
And what's going on there is it's the highly potent work coming from Gurdjieff's edge because he has Ospensky there with him.
And I think that Ospensky.
Was already on this level, and that Gurdjieff needed him as kind of to translate his system.
And it's a funny story because, uh, Ospensky kept the book, uh, called Fragments of an Unknown Teaching that was released as In Search of the Miraculous, which is an incredible book.
There's really no book like it, you know, it's like one of those knowledge of higher worlds type books.
And he didn't publish it until his death.
So that whole time, all his whole story about Gurdjieff and everything else.
He published nothing.
He had written his own books, Tertium Organum and New Model of the Universe, and these other books that are really fascinating.
But he didn't publish the Gurdjieff work until he died.
And then Gurdjieff was still alive.
He got a copy of the book and he said, This is incredible.
And, you know, they had had really bad relations at the end and had really called each other names and everything else.
But Gurdjieff at the end is like, You know, I really was hating on Ospensky before, but I love him now.
This is incredible.
He wrote exactly what we did.
Back there.
And I think that Gurdjieff himself saw that the best of his teaching was captured inside of In Search of the Miraculous.
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And it's interesting to note the original title of the book Fragments of an Unknown Teaching.
It's not very clear.
There's influences of Sufism, there's influences of mystic Christianity, there's influences of even Buddhism, but it's not, there's no real antecedent for the Gurdjieff work.
It's very hard to figure out where it comes from.
That's what's so fascinating.
What I'm going to do is I'm going to roll in the Moon Steiner part into the next section and open up the questions because we're running late.
Miss Olivia, that means it's up to you.
Not a mouse just said, Aspensky wrote, The devil is only interested in you when you try to get away.
That is really powerful.
I should tell you what's interesting about that.
This book, which I've had, like, let's see, I think I bought this book in 1998, something like that.
But it's called Talks with a Devil, and it is a Spensky, and it's all about it's two short stories.
One of the stories was taken and made into Groundhog Day, which is the Bill Murray movie about recurrence, showing up, and it's the same day over and over again.
That book ended up being called The Strange Life of Ivan Ossikin, and it is fascinating.
But this one is called The Inventor, and it is very interesting if you can get your hands on it.
Especially the one that has the intro by J.G. Bennett.
That'll tell you a great deal about their relationship, Gurdjieff and Ospensky's.
Yes, Mr. Bennett.
Okay, Deep State Your Fire.
DJ, isn't there something in Theosophy about proto humans slash previous life waves of humans coming in basket forms, sort of etheric basket bodies from the moon?
Yeah, you know, I have some of that in the Steiner section here.
What I would say is this that it seems like there are developmental curves and there's a dropping down into matter, and that some of the life wave.
From the spiritual realm dropped down into matter prematurely.
That's where a lot of the early stories of the Watchers trying to guide humanity out of that come from.
And there are stories back there of the Watchers falling in love with the beautiful Earthling.
And the Watchers were basically Elohim who were guiding the early kind of version of humanity coming through Lemuria.
Which didn't even really have physical forms yet.
They were just adopting.
They were kind of right in between the etheric body and the physical body.
So when you get into this, sometimes Casey will refer to them as thought forms or thought projections.
And it seems like they materialized further and further over time.
So you do get these earlier versions of things.
But I also think it's quite fascinating because you have the whole thing about giants in the Bible.
And if you go further back, there are those legends about giants.
And when you see this kind of strange mixing of what are called these Elohim beings, then, you know, that's where people, I think, get so off on the track of alien hybrid type stuff.
And you don't really have to go there because you're just looking at different levels of beings, as it were.
And I know I said earlier that we would treat the UFO part from the alien side.
And I, you know, for the purposes of the discussion around the UFO file and the German.
Development piece we did, but I think in general, the idea of what happens when that early period takes place if you go back into the temple legend of the Masons,
basically the story is that you've got Adam, you know, who was Jehovah's creation, and what happens is you're basically dealing with the Elohim facing off and one Elohim versus Jehovah.
That's where you get the Cain and Abel story.
And so the entire Masonic legend of the builders of fire and Tubal Cain and this whole bit and Solomon and the temple legend come directly out of that clash.
So what they basically say is, you know, Cain was this incredible master builder.
And, you know, he slew Abel because Abel was.
Basically, the favored one.
So, there's a weird early jealousy story going on there in the clash.
And so, this is telling, I think, on a few levels.
But by the time you get to Hiram in that whole piece, you know, the Lords of Fire, of Tulal Cain, of Builders, Sons of Fire, they're trying to save him from Solomon and the three henchmen, as it were, trying to take him out.
And they do end up taking him out, you know.
So, It's a weird story.
There's a lot of parallels back there about two different strands of humanity that are coming from two different Elohim levels.
And that has nothing to do with an outer space alien because the Elohim are basically the higher beings, part of the overseeing of the early development of humanity.
So that story needs to be taken on its own.
And it's very funny because I see, you know, I see the Book of Enoch stuff thrown around in the most ridiculous fashion.
Obviously, You know, there's a big move inside of the alien thing to be like aliens are demons, you know, and to just jump on that.
And they're trying to convince the Christian community of that.
And I think you have to go very, very deep before you can get into a conversation like that, because demons, you know, in classic esoteric lore or in religious lore, don't require any technology of any kind, but they can come through anything, right?
So the idea of attaching them to a particular type of advanced technology from an outer space.
Yeah, I mean, it's very, very sneaky stuff that's going on in the narrative wars around the UFO file, but aliens or demons, I think, is part of that.
Yes.
Secret Agent P8X According to several ancient accounts, there was a time before the moon.
Could the moon's arrival have triggered the Great Flood?
Yeah, I mean, that's fascinating too.
I'm going to go with Steiner's version of this, which is the moon was inside the earth at a certain point.
It came from the earth and was inside the earth and actually, you know, was viewable inside the earth.
So we're a totally different type of culture.
And then when it leaves, it's a terribly traumatic event for humanity.
And there's a whole thing about the beings that are associated with the sun and the moon withdrawing from the earth and letting kind of the earth stand on its own.
So that's the story out of the anthroposophical literature.
One thing I will tell you in the work of.
Bigger Casey, right?
Sitting there responding to correspondence, asking him for readings while he's taking photographs to stay alive because the psychic money is not going to cut it.
And, you know, Casey is one of these figures whose passion for helping people put him in such a bad way.
I remember reading this story about his son visiting him where he's at this low point living in Ohio.
And Casey shows up at the train station to get him, and he shoved all this newspaper inside of his coat to stay warm.
I mean, this is the type and level that Casey is living on.
I want to read this Casey quote here.
And there's also a thing about the tarot moon quote, which I have also from Ospensky.
But go ahead, you can ask your next question.
Well, I do have some questions about Casey.
Synergy conscious.
Says, what did Edgar Cayce say about the moon?
Did the Atlantis civilization occupy the moon?
And then that Chris says, DJ, do you agree that Casey had nothing good to say about the moon?
Well, I think he wanted us to understand that it was a volatile environment.
I have an interesting thing that Casey said about the moon.
It grabbed me because we might be dealing with the period of time when the moon leaves the earth here.
So he says, in giving the experience of the entity's sojourn in a period as remote as the early destructive periods of the land called Atlantis in Poseidia.
And remember, Poseidia is where the hot zone was.
That's also becomes the stronghold of the Aemilius group against the Belial group, which was predominantly, although they're all intermixed, but it was predominantly in Og.
There were other centers that were developing.
For in the projections that began as many and in creating influences, they began as five.
Those five projections in those centers where crystallization of projection had taken on such form as to be called what is called man.
Hardly could it be said that they were in the exact form in the present, for there were more of the influences of what might be used when necessary, such as arms or limbs or feet or eyes or whatnot.
So you're talking about, you know, people with multiple limbs, like the Hindu goddess and all the rest.
So, in following the interpretation of the Poseidon period in Atlantis, let it be understood that this is only one of the groups and the highest of the greatest advancement of the earthly sojourns of the individuals, entities, and the souls in that period, or the highest that had been, save that which had been a part of the Lemurian Age.
Hence, we find the separating into groups, as we call them, for this or that phase of activity against that manner of development.
The sons of Belial, this is the Belial group that we've pointed out so much in our documentary work.
It has to be understood, I think, to get a handle on it.
The sons of Belial were of one group, or those that sought more the gratifying, the satisfying, the use of material things for self without thought or consideration as to the sources or such, nor the hardships of the experience of others.
In other words, as we would term it today, they were without a standard of morality.
It is the Belial cult that resurfaces looking in the hot zone for a connection to Belial, and even the Epstein Maxwell work that we put out.
Imagining a Closer Moon00:04:18
You know, in 2020, for our 100th episode, it was all about this.
But one of the things that Casey is saying in this reading about Poseidon is that the moon hadn't faded yet.
So apparently, the moon was in a much more powerful position on Earth, and we had a much more stronger interaction with it.
Because if you can imagine already what the moon does, You know, when there's a full moon, you've got hospital beds that are full.
You've got, you know, the very height of crime that takes place in a city.
And you have, you know, when people are doing surgery, they just try not to do it on a full moon because of excessive bleeding.
You have all of these different things that go on and, you know, the incredible interactions of the tides and all the other causes of the moon with the human body.
You can imagine then, try to take it another level and think if the moon was even closer.
If it was inside the earth, the type of impact that it would have, and then what it's leaving would do to the people there on the earth at the time.
So these are kind of extraordinary circumstances that are being outlined.
Yes.
David Dunaway, if Atlanteans at their peak were more than our equals in some ways, and they use the moon as part of an energy system or even weapon system, and does the moon impact reincarnation?
They all do.
They all do.
So anything, all the planets and all the heavenly bodies do.
I wanted to hop back to a question there.
I just remembered that I hadn't answered, which is somebody said, did the Atlanteans use their ships to get to the moon?
Casey had identified on a number of different occasions that the Atlanteans could go anywhere in the universe.
In the whole universe?
Not just the solar system or galaxy?
We're talking about an Atlantean.
Space program, then.
So they understood how to do that.
And I think so much of what he's indicating is that they could do this because of their mind and the control over matter by their mind.
On the most basic level, he talks about the two eyed stone, the ability of flight, the energy systems, and all the different technologies they had, including what he calls pleasure vehicles that go along the water, in the air, under the water, or through things.
So that's kind of a mastery of the realm.
But then going out further into the space galaxy and into the system, he does not hold back.
Yeah.
Well, we have never really talked about this.
This is heavy.
So.
The souls who were Atlanteans, okay, let's really take this in.
If they were that powerful, that advanced, then after Atlantis fell, they are incredibly limited by contrast.
Oh, yeah.
So, could you go into the trauma that those souls would experience from the heights of civilization?
Absolutely.
You know, pretty primitive existence.
It's shocking.
It's absolutely shocking when you think about it because you look at the whole pyramid building culture and then you look, you know, by the time you get to the Ptolemy period or whatever, and it looks like a bunch of rocks thrown together.
So you've lost the key, the master key to the entire development.
There's no question.
Well, I mean, no wonder that all the Atlanteans who are back want to get back to their heyday.
Well, a lot of them cause destruction.
And I don't think, see, Casey wasn't shy about pointing this out.
So if he would have somebody, he would say, Yeah, you.
Were somebody who was involved during the destruction of Atlantis.
But you have to make sure this time around you don't get your hands involved in quite the same way with the same technologies and to do the culture in again.
So he's setting people up for that atomic age, the nuclear piece and all the rest of it.
And finally, the 21st century advancement.
I think all of the mystery schools are.
The Orphic Circle Craze00:02:58
And I think they figured out, you know, as Steiner points out, by 1840.
That coming out of Germany is the whole, if we can't measure it, it doesn't exist scientific materialism.
And it's very clear to them if they don't do something, it's clear to about a third of them, the groups, that if they don't do something, give this information to the public on this higher, more advanced level, then they're not going to recognize humanity in 100 years.
And they can also, you know, if we got two world wars coming in and this intense move towards Darwinism.
And they're losing the whole Renaissance poet scientist connected to spirituality piece, the Goethe type individual, the real Renaissance man.
Then you're getting something else.
And so they realize that they have to do it.
And I think what's so fascinating is if you get into the Steiner work, what he says is those attempts happen through this spiritualist craze in America in the 1850s, the 1860s.
The Poughkeepsie Seer, the Fox sisters, these different moves that take place table rapping, seances.
Abraham Lincoln working with Emma Britton, you know, and Emma Britton, who founds Theosophy with Helena Blavatsky, what Blavatsky calls the greatest medium of her lifetime.
And eventually they split, you know, because Theosophy goes so Eastern that Emma Britton, you know, takes another route.
But her story is fascinating.
And as we've told it about the Orphic Circle and how she was basically a 12, 13 year old medium that the Orphic Circle was using to get all this information on spirituality, state secrets, and everything else.
And that the people in those circles were Benjamin Disraeli, the future Prime Minister of Britain, Charles Dickens, the author, you know, the glitterati of that society.
And they're all in this situation having her channel.
And sometimes the channeling sessions get out of hand.
You know, she recalls it's my favorite kind of tidbit that she recalls in her book that there's a whole thing about she wakes up in the middle of one of these sessions and there are these, this being has, you know, kind of popped in and the whole room is being swept.
You know, there's an incredible boom in the room.
The whole room is kind of swept with the wind and people are up running around.
And the woman who's controlling the session is yelling in her ear saying, go back to sleep.
Go back to sleep, go back into your trance, you know, and like we'll get a handle on this.
Barney Hill's Alien Abduction00:05:27
But I think they were at the very edge of trying to figure this out.
And I'll tell you, when you go in, there's a lot of weird stories when you go into Edgar Cayce as well.
I mean, there's a lot of really hardcore things, you know.
What is the human being capable of when you get right down to it?
And if you can start to pinpoint the stories of these really heavy duty psychics.
You know, who brought incredible material forward, then you know you're in the very deep end of the ballpark.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
Okay.
Ed Cooksey, the structures on the moon that you have mentioned people at NASA tried to airbrush out of the pictures, are those Atlantean?
Well, it's very interesting.
They could very well be an off world civilization using it as an outpost, could be an earlier civilization that didn't make it, that died out.
It's the same thing with the Mars ruins.
I think there's a reason they airbrushed them out.
And I think it's part of the nature of the secret space program.
This is what we're talking about.
What's the problem?
You know, what is it that you can't share with humanity?
And part of that, I think, is the ancient ruins.
Also, the presence of another culture that is more advanced.
Now, that culture could be, its origin could be a human culture.
I'm not against that idea.
I just wanted to, tonight, I wanted, I think, for the intersections of what we're talking about, to think of it as an off world alien culture is healthy.
Actually, I think it gets us closer to the truth when we're talking about these things.
Yeah.
Okay.
So if the Atlanteans knew, if there were many different diasporas of the Atlanteans because there were three different breakups of the land.
Yes.
Why?
And they were, you know, they could travel throughout the universe.
Why wouldn't they set up shop on them?
It makes perfect sense if you believe it.
Yeah.
I think that they could have had that type of space travel.
But you see, what's interesting to me.
Is when Casey talks about that aspect of the Atlanteans, he talks about them receiving visits from visitors from other planets.
He doesn't talk very often about them going to other planets.
It comes up a few times, but it's not like the central core.
It seems to be when the Atlantean island is going down, they're more materialized, they're more like us.
And I think in an earlier period, they were not so closely knit in matter.
That's the way he puts it.
They're more etheric, and they do have vehicles and things.
But they can kind of project themselves mentally almost anywhere they want to go.
So they're extraordinary in that sense, but they become more and more crystallized, and the atmosphere changes, and you get the hardened version of us.
And if you look at the Steiner work, he really says that this version of humanity kicks in in the 15th century.
So, this version of us that we have going on there.
So, even the Greeks and the Egyptians, they're still, they're more, you know, when Casey talks about it, he says, you know, even the average person in Egypt in that Period, we were aware of things that were going on above them, miles above them.
So we're in a totally different kind of consciousness, you might say.
My guess would be by the time Atlantis really goes down, 10,500 BC, that the power stations, the two eye power stations that ran the world, they've been basically destroyed.
And what he says is they were unintentionally set too high.
And they brought down the islands.
So, when you get into those issues around the hot zone about compasses spinning backwards and the incredible physics that take place there and the magnetic holes and the Bermuda Triangle overlap with things disappearing and time stopping and all the rest of it, that's the apothegm that we talk about in this program.
And it is specific to the UFO encounters as well.
Time disappears.
The first thing you hear about Betty and Barney Hill is all the timing disappears.
And, you know, very often people will say, well, Betty and Barney Hill, maybe that was a psyop.
Maybe it was an alien abduction.
You know, maybe there's a reason our consciousness was catching up with what was going on because we were developing our own technology, and bang, you get, you know, the first kind of classic alien abduction.
You don't have to write off alien abductions at all.
As a matter of fact, I believe that most of them are 100% real.
And what I would say is that the understanding about what they are goes up and down, and there's a cultural influence.
To some of that, that sensationalizes it and beyond.
But I think that actually, when you get two nuts and bolts, and when you have these counterintelligence people talking about the UFO file, I think if that part were shut off and you were dealing with open minded science people and people who had experiences around the UFO file and encounters, that would be a much better, that's a much better trajectory.
And that's the John Mack trajectory.
Astral Bodies and Spiritual Beings00:08:28
He died under suspicious circumstances in 2005.
And ever since, you know, that 20 years, nobody's been there to take his place.
And what you've got instead is the CIA.
And you have people in podcast land celebrating the CIA doing this, saying, like, yeah, that CIA, man, they're giving us the real alien truth now.
That's the danger.
And we've pointed out that danger over and over again on this program.
Everyone, you are watching the Dark Journalist Show.
Is X series 215?
It's the covert moon wars.
Can it get any more obvious?
The UFO file secret tech revealed tonight.
And also, I should add the esoteric version of the moon because we've had that's a heavy, heavy part of this tonight.
We're taking your questions now.
I'm going to read Steiner's moon mystery piece, then we're going to take more questions.
How does that grab you?
Sounds good.
I have the classic von Braun Elon quote as well.
Everyone's waiting for that one.
All right.
So, Steiner gave us that the Atlanteans had incredible control over the life force, as he called it.
Now, a little bit about the moon.
Through the absorption of the astral body on the moon, man has become capable of a life of sensation, a certain inwardness within his astral body.
He can form images of what takes place in his environment.
Those images, in a certain respect, are to be compared with dream images in present day human consciousness.
But they are more vivid and colorful, and more important, they relate to events in the outside world.
While present day dream images are mostly echoes of daily life or otherwise unclear mirroring of inner or outer events, the images of the moon consciousness correspond completely to whatever they were related to externally.
Assume, for example, that a moon man, as he had just been characterized, consisting of a physical body, an ether body, and an astral body, had approached another moon being.
It is true that he could not have perceived the latter as a spatial object, for this had become possible only in Earth consciousness of man.
But within his astral body, he could have arisen an image with its color and shape that would have been quite exactly expressed whether the other being was well or ill disposed toward him.
Now, what he's getting at here is the development of the moon on our astral body gave us this ability to differentiate things on Earth.
And so to have.
Some kind of an interface between our sleeping mystic life and our regular everyday physical life.
Whereas, in ordinary kind of Atlantean terms, what they would do is they would live among the gods.
They would be walking along and they would be in this kind of mist with the gods.
And so, the separation between night and day is something where the moon features come in.
So, we deal with that side of our consciousness, our self.
With the moon now, because it's a separated off thing, our astral body has developed through it.
And then in our physical everyday life, you know, we're able to walk and talk and do the things on the earth plane.
And so this is the separation.
This is what the value is, I think, on the moon.
One of the fascinating things that Steiner brings up is that one of the deepest secrets in the mystery school concerns the moon.
And I will get to that quote as well tonight, but the thrust of it is like this that there's a group of highly advanced spiritual beings who use the moon as a fortress.
And that basically all of these different forces have tried to, in some way, interact with these beings.
And that those beings are in possession of basically the Sikh.
Secrets of creation of humanity, and that they are just completely disconnected, but they are in that moon sphere as etheric spiritual beings.
So, this is part of what draws us into the moon.
Again, we've looked at it from a few different levels.
We've looked at it from a scientific level, we've looked at it from a technological level.
We've even tried to set off nuclear explosions on the moon.
There was a plan to do that.
Remember that?
What a genius plan that was.
And nuclear reactors on the moon running the risk of a nuclear meltdown on the moon.
Come on.
You know, these are terrible ideas.
But what you can see is there's another thread, another level.
And so you have a mystic level which starts to tell you, yeah, this is what the moon represents for humanities.
You know, the interaction of humanity and the Gurdjieff group saying, well, humanity basically becomes food for the moon because the moon controls so much here.
But then there's another aspect beyond that that Steiner is jumping forward to us and saying, you know what?
The moon actually.
Harbors the most advanced spiritual beings.
They're in basically kind of a spiritual fortress there.
And that's another reason for the intense, intense magnetization of the moon.
As unconsciously, we understand there's some interaction there, there's some beaming of that intense spiritual knowledge.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
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Okay.
William Macedo, the moon is someone's resonance machine?
Tessa 1111, why did the moon ring like a bell?
And then Pilled NK6BD rang like a bell for three hours.
Can you address that?
Well, I think in terms of resonance, now there's a lot of things there because astrologically there are people who are under the moon sign, and that is moon children, right, Cancer?
And this goes back to what Casey was saying about planetary sojourn.
So, if you have a lifetime on Earth, what happens to you afterwards is you go into the next schoolroom in this system.
And that schoolroom might be Mercury or Venus or some other planet, preferably not Saturn.
And what happens is you will learn the lessons there and bring them back with you.
So, you do these planetary sojourns and you're not in a physical body, but you're in the body of the environment.
Of the planet.
And the only one that he indicated was anything like it is with ours was Venus, in fact.
So that, you know, the body that's developing on Venus is very much like the physical body we have here.
So we have to get our heads around it a little bit because we think of things in such physical terms, but you are complex in this sense.
So when you have incarnations, you know, the physical incarnations happen here on Earth, but other things happen in other realms.
So, that's if you resonate with something like the moon, it's probably because of an incarnation there.
Pleiadian Market Secrets00:05:34
And those are talked about in mystery work.
The other thing is when Casey's discusses Arcturus as the door to the system, he indicates basically when you're done, when you've completed your lessons here in the system, you move through Arcturus into the next higher awakening.
Now, that's interesting for a lot of reasons.
But again, you have the Pleiadian Association, and then later you have stories of Pleiadian aliens and all the rest.
But regardless of what you think of Pleiadian aliens and all that, our culture has held the Pleiades in this zone of glorification.
You know, the Egyptians, the Greeks, they knew the purpose and the intent of it.
And it's interesting because one of the pieces that I mentioned I'd like to bring up is the Nibra Sky Disc.
This is such an old culture.
They're still dating this further and further back, but they were indicating a sky event that is taking place at this period.
And I think that this is a recurring picture, something that happens every period of time, and that was buried in a portion of northern Germany and found and secreted away.
And then paid for in the black market for millions of dollars.
This thing moved around.
There were all kinds of, you know, Interpol was involved.
Everybody wanted this thing.
And I have a feeling that this thing is very much involved with what we're talking about.
Somebody did this interpretation, which seems to identify a Deborah, Aries, Sirius, and these other pieces in it.
They did a very good job of indicating what's going on here and what the placements were.
But what I will say is this I still think a lot of that disc is a mystery.
And I think the problem with it is it's so old and the area is so unknown.
The people who had it is so unknown.
And then when it was abducted and it was sold into the black market and these other groups had it, and then Interpol and these other groups had to get it back, you know, there's been a lot over this disc.
I have a feeling that this is one of those sacred objects from these cultures.
And I think what it's indicating is something that certain groups want to get their hands on because it is a recurring destructive pattern that takes place in the heavens.
Now, the official write up on it is it's a bronze disc and it's 12 inches in diameter and it's only five pounds.
It has a green, blue patina, it's inlaid with gold symbols.
These symbols are interpreted generally as the sun or the full moon and the Pleiades.
I think there's aspects here when we're talking about what Gurdjieff is saying, also about this other moon that we can't see anymore.
I think that's part of the reason for the absconding with this disk and the strange story behind it.
Two golden arcs along the sides are thought to have marked the angle between the solstices.
This thing is very advanced, also.
That's over 5,000 years old.
Another arc at the bottom with internal parallel lines is usually interpreted as a solar boat and numerous oars.
Some authors have also suggested it might represent a rainbow.
Aurora Borealis, a comet, a sickle.
In 1999, the disk was found buried in Mittelberg Hill near Niebuhr in Germany.
And now the Niebuhr disk features the oldest concrete depiction of astronomical phenomena from anywhere in the world.
In June 2013, it was included in UNESCO Memory of the World International Register and termed one of the most important archaeological finds of the 20th century.
1999, just barely 20th century.
The disc, together with two bronze swords, two sets of remains of axes, a chisel, fragments of spiral armbands, were discovered in 1999 by Henry Westfall while he was treasure hunting with Mario Renner and a metal detector.
The detectors were operating without a license and knew their activity constituted looting and was illegal.
There's this whole thing about what takes place.
And then the Niebuhr disc gets sold for $18 million into the black market.
All these things happen, investigations, they get it back.
But I think we get the gist there.
What we're looking at, oh, origins of the metals.
According to an initial analysis of trace elements by X ray fluorescence, the copper originated in Austria, while the gold was thought to be from the Carpathian mountain.
This is very interesting because Carpathia is where the Rata. Priest came from in the Casey readings who unites the Atlanteans with the Egyptians.
So watch out.
Is it a Rata disc?
Maybe it's a Rata disc.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
Purple frequency 08.
Tower of Babel on the Moon00:17:03
Could the ruins that we see on the moon and Mars be from the story of the Tower of Babel?
And if so, dealing with that story, why would our destroyers allow us to rebuild again?
You know, I think sometimes it's worthwhile, even as just an exercise.
To go and take a story that we think is basically flat, you know, like down here on Earth, and reflects it up to the stars.
And when you get to something like the Tower of Babel, it's so interesting because they're building a tower into the sky.
And so the mythology behind the story, you know, the metaphor is basically, you know, you're going into the stars, which is basically you're taking your ships up there.
And, um, What's also interesting is it's a portion of the Bible where the gods reason among themselves.
And the Bible is so focused around the one God idea that this is kind of sensational in a strange way that they take this approach and say, well, the gods reason among themselves.
Look, if they keep on like that, they're going to be like us soon.
We have to really confound their language and go down there and mess them up.
So that's what they do.
And it's interesting because.
In the Steiner work, he says at a certain point humanity had one single language.
So this is an intentional throwing of the entire situation.
I've found very reliable interpretations of events like the Tower of Babel everywhere from the Steiner work to the older Sumerian legends about it.
If you really start to get the impression that it's a group, That is human here, and they're getting so far beyond themselves that their knowledge exceeds their wisdom.
And it's a very kind of Atlantean style story, which seems to be a recurring pattern.
By the way, I think one of the reasons it's so very important right now is we seem to be in that exact situation.
And, you know, everyone's talking about cloning and designer babies and, you know, growing a human ear on a mouse and all this stuff.
I mean, it's kind of, you know, we're in for big, big problems because this Atlantean stuff is back.
But there hasn't been a whole lot of, you know, wisdom building going on in the meantime.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
Aquamarine Bamboo DJ, how do you relate these quote moon wars with the official statement from NASA that said, quote, in 2024, we are going back to the moon to stay?
Do you remember this?
Yeah, yeah, that's an excellent point.
And the Artemis program, I think I mentioned at the outset, I did a whole show about Trump's big order, executive order at the end of December.
Actually, I did it on the Alex Jones show, that's where it was.
And I've mentioned it.
But this executive order is quite interesting.
I'll tell you what it does.
It commands us to leave the International Space Station by 2030.
That means we're going to be on our own.
We don't like that setup anymore.
That means we're not going with other nations to anywhere in space.
That's the first rule.
The next rule we have to have an operating moon base by 2028.
And they put Jared Isaacman at NASA, the billionaire, to do that.
This guy who, you know, is a pretty young guy and his only.
Background seems to be being a billionaire.
And he's one of those civilians who paid SpaceX to go into space and all that.
So I don't know.
I mean, I haven't seen really what his program is yet.
So we'll keep it with an open mind.
But he was Elon's favorite.
He was originally rejected by the Trump administration.
It's very important to note that.
And Trump said, This guy's a Democrat.
I don't want him running NASA.
And that's when Elon flipped out on him last summer, if you recall.
And it was pretty ugly.
And we got to see ugly Elon there.
And he made all these claims against Trump, and he flipped out on him.
Later, they reconciled a little bit, but still not what it used to be.
And it was all over this guy because SpaceX wanted all of NASA's info.
And I believe they wanted all of NASA's UFO file databases because SpaceX is crazy about databases and everything about that whole Musk endeavor has a big database.
They need to snatch up the database and they hate all the competition.
So, any reasoning like that, it becomes interesting to look at it from that point of view and say, what was in that order that Trump was doing that was laying this out?
Well, I call it kind of the UFO file executive order because what it's basically doing is it's setting up the Golden Dome on one hand to be activated by 2028.
By the way, it's supposed to be active two months before.
The election of 2028.
That gives you some indication of what it's for.
But the Golden Dome is very little talked about.
Independent media, you know, has a kind of, I don't know how else to put it, but their priorities are all about, you know, stimulating you with salacious stories and not giving you anything to work with that actually means something.
And that's the nature of the problem with this phony corporate version of independent media that's rolled in.
But what I will say, Is the Golden Dome could be one of the most important projects for 2026, 2028.
And it could be decisive in terms of what the United States does with it.
And I believe it's being created as a UFO defense grid.
And I think that's part of why they're doing this disclosure kick.
By the way, I think that the threat that they're facing off against is not real.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
Robert Scott, how do you enforce a space treaty and who exactly enforces it?
The signatories, and we have a number of very important space treaties on the books already.
That's the interesting thing.
But I think it's, yeah.
So, CarRacer says, What do we think about Gary McKinnon and the secret space fleet?
Absolutely.
Well, it's the root info about the secret space program.
It's an incredible breakthrough.
And, you know, McKinnon is standing in that place in history.
I don't think really people even got the implication of what happened when he hacked into NASA.
And there's the famous press conference that takes place with Cameron and Obama.
And Obama says, you know, they ask him, what are you going to do about Gary McKinnon?
And he says, we're going to do everything we can, you know, through the channels here to get him over to the United States.
They want to try him for this.
And luckily, he gets off because of the Asperger's defense.
And, but what he basically indicated now, he didn't download files and things.
He tells us what he was seeing.
And one of those things was an off world officers list.
Well, nobody, you know, we know what an astronaut is, but nobody knows what an off world officer is.
And that's not, you know, that's not your astronaut fleet.
What was that?
That's even before the secret, that's even before the Space Force, you know.
This is like Gary McKinnon's story is 2003, I believe.
So it's so back there.
And we've tried to do things about the secret space program.
And put so much on the record around it.
And right in the center of that is McKinnon's fantastic revelation.
And what do you do with that?
I think it's very instructive.
Speaking of instructive, you might remember a guy who was psychic and also a remote viewer and really quite remarkable legacy.
He was a Korean War vet.
And during the Korean War, you know, they noticed some interesting things about him.
One of the things that they noticed was that this guy, he seems to have like telepathic abilities.
And so they eventually recruited him into these programs.
What's fascinating is they decided this is one of the best remote viewers we've ever had.
Later, out on his own, he would be recruited by mysterious groups to do remote viewing.
And at times he thought he was working.
Four different groups that would lend him out.
You know, like the CIA would turn to him.
There'd be some situation where they'd want to rescue somebody, like a diplomat who was taken hostage, or they'd want to identify Russian ICBMs and where they were and all the rest.
They were using him for all these projects.
Eventually, he came to write his book called Penetration the Question of Extraterrestrial Life.
And, um, He has a chapter in that book.
Many of you are familiar with Ingo, but since we're talking about the moon here, take a listen.
There's someone named Axelrod, who is a character here, that's a shadowy intel character, keeps hiring him, putting him in unusual situations.
One of those situations was he got set up to meet his person at Times Square.
And He's looking around, nobody's there.
He's like, What's going on here?
Then there's like a homeless person, and suddenly the homeless person comes up to him and is like, Come along, I have the car and ready.
And he gives him the keyword or whatever.
And he gets into the car, and there's a pair of blonde twins in the car.
And they drive him to a remote location.
They put a bag over his head, and then they let him out.
And they're like, here's the environment, here's the project, do it.
And then he realizes after a while, oh, this is me remote viewing the moon.
I got it.
So later he gives his story about what that was all about.
Here's a little bit of a glint of it.
Axel gave me moon coordinates.
And each set represented a specific location on the moon's surface.
At some of the locations, there seemed to be nothing to see except moonscapes.
But at other locations, well, there were confusions.
I perceived a lot and I could not understand it all.
I made a lot of sketches, identifying them on this or that, looking like something else.
Axelrod quickly took possession of each sketch I made, and I was never to see them again.
It's a bad sign.
I found towers, machinery, lights of different colors, strange looking buildings when I was in the session.
I found bridges whose function I couldn't figure out.
One of them just arched out, never landed anywhere.
There were a lot of domes of various sizes, round things, things like small saucers with windows.
These were stored next to crater sides, sometimes in caves, sometimes in what looked like airfield hangars.
I had problems estimating sizes, but some of the things were very large.
I found long tube like things, machinery, tractor like things going up and down hills, straight roads extending some miles, obelisks.
Which had no apparent function.
There were large platforms on domes, large cross like structures, holes being dug into crater walls, floors, obviously having to do with some kind of a mining operation.
There were nets over the craters, houses in which somebody obviously lived, except I couldn't see who, save in one case.
In that case, I saw some kind of people busy at work on something I could not figure out.
The place was dark, the air was filled with a fine dust, and there was some kind of illumination like a dark lime.
Green fog or mist.
Okay, are you ready for it?
The thing about them was that either they were human or looked exactly like us.
They were all males, as I could well see, since they were all naked.
I had absolutely no idea why they seemed to be digging into the hillside or the cliff.
As I described, they must have had some way of creating a good environment, warm and with air, but why would they be naked?
No answer was forthcoming.
For this self question, but being there in my psychic state as I felt, I was some of the guys started talking excitedly and gesticulating.
Two of them pointed in my direction.
Now, remember, he's astral projecting to go see them, remote viewing, watching what they're doing.
And so somebody is like, Hey, hey, look.
Immediately, I felt like running away and hiding, which I guess I psychically did since I lost sight of them.
I think they spotted me, I said, Axel.
They were pointing at me, I think.
How could they do that unless they have some kind of psychic perception, too?
Axel, in a calm, low voice, so low I hardly heard it at first, said, Please quickly come away from that place.
And so his stories go on.
But it's quite interesting because I think what we're getting there with Ingo is his psychic ability.
You know, penetration is a good term because it's very, it's kind of like Casey's abilities.
And He has the ability to place himself in different situations.
And I think in this case, he's seeing some type of operation of the secret space program on the moon.
That's another one of those, just snapshot it because I think we're getting some idea of what's actually going on there.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show, it's X Series 215 Covert Moon Wars.
Wow, UFO file, secret tech revealed.
Maybe we can see why they try to cut this off on Friday.
Just remarkable.
It's great.
Fantastic questions from the ideas.
We'll do a couple more questions.
I'll read one more Steiner quote, the whole weed it.
And then you, Miss Olivia, will give me the final tally.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm having a realization with a lot of other people in the ideas room that the moon is the single most important mystery for us to uncover right now.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's the link to our past, to our identity, who we are as humans, who's in control.
I agree.
I agree.
I think the moon is incredibly underrated on that front.
And I think we're in good company when we say it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So light US expat says future.
Forecasting group remote viewed the moon and they got data that some base associated with Nazis is up there.
Did the Germans make it to the moon and establish a base?
Well, it's interesting.
See, I believe that the Germans encountered crashed craft the way that we did.
And so I feel like there's a program, an ongoing program, there of studying what this is all about.
They're obviously.
Very advanced.
They're more advanced than the United States, certainly, in that period of the 1930s, as far as space is concerned.
Well, let's, I mean, let's really, I keep going back to who was already up there on the moon and Vril and helping.
Maybe they didn't come from that far away to help.
You know, there was a collaboration.
And then a lot of people are talking about Antarctica and where that fits in to all of this.
Well, remember Von Braun spending the time there and.
Our work on Lloyd Berkner and his time there, and how he is the driving force in the Kennedy administration for the moon landing.
Here's the Steiner quote I wanted to read about the moon, and then we'll take your final questions.
How's that?
Everyone, fantastic questions tonight.
Keep it coming.
We'll do a couple more, and then we'll call it an evening, shall we?
Okay.
Steiner's talking about how.
Souls Returning to Earth00:05:20
The soul was developed in that Atlantean period and during the moon period when it left the earth.
When the soul left the body, the latter continued to live something like a continuation of life.
If development had progressed in this way, the earth would have hardened under the influence of its solid element.
To supersensible knowledge, looking back on these conditions, it's evident that the bodies of men, being abandoned by their souls, would become more and more solid.
All materials useful to man would have been used to fill the earth.
With the woody remains of embodiments, and human souls returning to Earth would have found no usable material for which they could have united.
Then an event occurred which gave the whole development a different turn.
Everything in the Earth, solid matter that could contribute to permanent hardening, was eliminated.
Our present moon left the Earth at that time, and what had previously contributed directly to the permanent formation of form in the Earth now had an indirect, weakened effect from the moon.
The higher beings on whom this formation of form depends had decided that their effects should no longer come from within the earth, but from without.
Higher beings, okay?
As a result of this, a difference appeared in the bodily forms of man, which must be described as the beginning of the separation of the male and female sexes.
The ethereal human forms which previously inhabited the earth. Now gave rise to the new human form, their offspring through the interaction of the two forces within themselves, the germ and the vitalizing force.
Now their offspring reformed.
In one group, such offspring, the germinating power of the spiritual soul was more active.
In the other group, the vitalizing, germinating power was more active.
This was caused by the fact that with the departure of the moon from the earth, and the earth element had weakened its power.
The interaction of the two forces was now more delicate than it had been when it took place in one body.
Consequently, the offspring was also more delicate, more refined.
It entered the earth in a delicate state and only gradually incorporated the firmer parts.
This gave the human soul returning to earth the possibility of uniting with the body again.
It no longer revived it from the outside.
For this revival took place on earth itself, man's soul now returning to earth the possibility of uniting with the body again.
But it united with it and it made it grow.
However, there was a certain limit to this growth.
Through the separation of the moon, the human body had become flexible for a while.
But the more it continued to grow on earth, the more the solidifying forces took over.
In the end, the soul could only participate in the structure of the body in a weaker and weaker way.
This decayed as the soul ascended to the spiritual soul mode.
Of existence.
And kind of an interesting bookend to that whole thing is Steiner talking about the reunion of the moon and Earth.
This is just a short one, but keep it in mind, it rounds out the thought.
Now, you know that the moon will one day reunite with the Earth.
That point in time when the moon will unite with the Earth again has been postponed for thousands of years by astronomers and geologists living in abstraction, but that is only a delusion.
In reality, we are not even close to that point in time.
You know that humanity as such is getting younger and younger.
You know that people are increasingly developing their physical and spiritual development only up to a certain point in time.
And at the time of Christ's death, when the event of Golgotha took place, people were generally capable of bodily and spiritual development up to the age of 33, which is the age that Christ died.
Today, they are only capable until the 27th year.
And there will come a time in the fourth millennium when people will only be capable of development.
Up to the 21st year.
Keep that in mind.
There are all kinds of wild changes on board.
And it's interesting because Steiner, in one of his kind of remarkable time capsules for us, says there'll come a time when humanity will use their voice to reproduce.
So you will basically, and there's some indication, just like in puberty, when our voices change.
When man's voice will change going into puberty, there's some kind of developmental evolutionary track there that is going to emphasize dramatically our ability to speak, as it were, the vibration and the sound.
And it's going to influence everything.
That is a Steiner one.
We'll keep that one Steiner prediction and see if it comes true.
Miss Olivia, your final two questions for the evening.
Humanity Off Track from Moon00:12:13
Okay.
I'm going to bundle.
I've got two bundles and I'm not going to let it go.
Yeah.
Okay.
So the first one is, and these are a bunch.
Jonathan Kiner, the Dogon tribe said the moon was brought here once upon a time.
We know how important the Dogon tribe is.
Ray Story says the moon seems well engineered, perhaps too well.
And Dr. D13 here says, yep, the moon is ET's gas station.
We're a zoo full of lunatic monkeys.
I love all those.
One thing I will say is on the mystery track, the.
The general idea is the moon comes out of the earth.
In the Gurdjieff work, it is a major fragment that smashes into another fragment, and you get actually two moons.
One's bigger, one's smaller.
The bigger one is what we know is the moon, and the other one, Anulios, is one we can't see now, but they were aware of in the Atlantean period.
That's the story in the mystery schools.
I've heard lots of very interesting scientific ideas and alternative research ideas about.
The moon being artificially placed here to do things and all the rest of it.
So, you know, keep it coming.
Yeah.
The more I think about it, the more I agree with that.
Joseph said it's almost as if someone parked it there.
And Scarlet Fire says the moon is the front row of the Earth's Truman Show.
Yeah.
Oh, I absolutely agree.
But can any of us say that we haven't, in some way, been influenced by the moon?
I mean, it's impossible.
We all have.
And there are times when you're aware of it and other times when, you know, Only when you tune into it.
Well, I'm wondering, I really am one, you know, I'm a cancer, so I'm really.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
And which I find quite a burden.
And I'm wondering how responsible it is for my own lunacy, humanity's lunacy, instability.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
There's so much emotional.
Ah, lunacy.
Yeah.
Really, you've got to ask yourself where does that come from?
Absolutely.
It's also interesting what it's associated with, isn't it?
Look, in the writer tarot deck, we get some indication that this influence.
But you know, there's a very interesting book called Ospensky on the Tarot, which is his mystical.
You know, he's mostly scientifically mystical, but here he's purely mystical.
And he says, A desolate plain stretched out before me.
A full moon looked down as if in contemplative hesitation.
Under her wavering light, the shadows lived their own peculiar life.
On the horizon, I saw blue hills, and over them wound a path which stretched between two gray towers far away from the distance.
On either side, the path of a wolf and a dog sat, howled at the moon.
I remembered that dogs believe in thieves and ghosts.
A large black crab crawled out of the rivulet.
In the sands, a heavy, cold dew was falling.
Dread fell upon me.
I sensed the presence of a mysterious world, a world of hostile spirits, of corpses rising from the graves.
A wailing ghost in this pale moonlight.
I seem to feel the presence of an apparition.
Someone watched me from behind the towers.
I knew it was dangerous to look back.
There's a different kind of tower there than Ingo Swan's tower, but the towers, again, around the moon.
Yes, Ms. Olivia, your last question.
Final question David Donaway.
A la Dr. Farrell's intuitions are right, and pyramids may act as resonance machines or weapons.
Is there a sense that the moon operated in some way for energy resonance control over the earth?
I am groping here, but was the moon.
Place to force a new evolution on Earth as part weapon and incarnation control device?
Is the moon some kind of karma control machine by archons?
Oh, well, archons are an interesting thing to bring up.
I go back to what Steiner said about these the highest spiritual forces and the biggest mystery are these beings in the fortress of the moon.
There's something there.
About the developmental track, and remember a part of that developmental track, and the other big secret in the mystery schools that was let out prematurely and then clarified by Blavatsky and later Steiner was about the eighth sphere.
The eighth sphere is what we see laid out before us so often now with the technology, with the virtual environments, and they're kind of creating an artificial astral zone, as it were.
I'm sure AI.
Will become part of that as much as that can be a positive or negative tool, depending on how you use it.
But that aspect of the eighth sphere, again, like the Ahriman work, takes the Steiner work into the 21st century.
And it's like he's seeing the forces that are going to come through the technology and dominate.
And this is really what we're up against.
In a way, I think we're lucky that we had this instruction from Steiner, but then it's all in how you use it.
How do you figure it out?
And the eighth sphere is an excellent, excellent concept to bring forward.
And I'm glad that on this show we have people talking about it now because in the eighth sphere, it's an artificial zone of spiritual evolution in the Steiner cosmology.
So that just like you would go in this incarnation into another incarnation of planetary sojourn into somewhere like Mercury.
Instead, the eighth sphere is artificially built up as a link between the moon and the earth.
And it's a sphere.
It's something that's not visible to a telescope.
It's something that's visible to clairvoyant vision.
And that sphere is being built up.
It's an harmonic sphere, and it's a place where those forces dominate humanity.
And if that's become so built up with the technology that we kind of assume this false reality, And the Aramonic piece breaks us off from our own spirituality, then our spiritual evolution goes off.
And that's very dangerous.
So, this is the warning, I think, that's come forward.
And when I often say this to people and talks about Rudolf Steiner's work, I think he spent four decades warning humanity about this Aramonic period that we're going into.
So, we put it front and center in so much of the work, and we'll continue to do that.
And, you know, it's interesting that last question.
I always see the pyramids in a much more positive light because in the mystery work, they are initiation chambers.
And so, you know, the Great White Brotherhood does their initiation in the Great Pyramid.
You know, this is how it's perceived.
So the highest of the forces come through the pyramid, and it was laid out by Ra, Ta, and Hermes, 10,500 BC, and it was already an ancient sacred site, according to the Casey work.
So, I've never seen anything about the pyramids to indicate that they were evil in any way.
I think that they are a leftover from the Atlantean civilization, the pyramids, the Great Pyramid, and the Sphinx, and the other pyramids were added.
And I think the Pyramid X, which is what we've been reporting on, that's the hall of records that the Atlanteans left behind.
That's the highest of the high.
What's interesting about that is it not only includes the information about the two eye stone and the construction of the two eye stone, according to Casey, but it contains, there's so many different things it contains in that pyramid, but it also contains 32 tablets.
I think the original 32 tablets from the high Atlantean initiates.
That's the resonance.
That's why they put it in three different places, apparently.
But this is the nature of it all.
And certainly the moon.
You can see we've touched even on the mystery here tonight.
It's absolutely fascinating.
We can come at it from so many different levels, but when you see us apprehending it and putting nuclear reactors up there, making space a warfighting domain, you can see that humanity is going off track from what it's supposed to be doing in relation to the moon.
So it's very interesting to consider it from multiple levels.
I hope we've done some of that here tonight.
Miss Olivia, your final question.
Well, I'm just thinking about the pyramids right now and about like sulfeggio frequencies and things like that.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm talking to everybody in the chat right now.
If you've ever, if you are sensitive, if you've ever listened to them, you can feel your frequency rising, your consciousness.
It's amazing.
So I'm wondering about because we've all seen the grids from the upper atmosphere with the pyramids, not just in Egypt, but around the planet, and how there could have been a grid in place that kept the Earth's frequency and the frequency of humanity's consciousness much higher so that we were capable of.
Peaceful interactions and, um, yes, oh, absolutely, um, and greater scientific breakthroughs, et cetera, et cetera.
Well, wasn't it, uh, Casey, who said that if, uh, he was giving a world congress meeting, there's 20 people in the room, and as he said, well, if a room with the amount of people in this room, this is during World War II when they didn't know if America was going to be invaded, he said, if they, if all of them pray that America doesn't get invaded and then live the prayer.
Then it won't happen.
So, what is you talking about putting a mist over things or putting a cover?
You know, we have that ability to do it.
And Casey's pointing it out.
I just thought if everybody could sort of drop acid or like do seriously, that we'd get to this higher vibe.
But I'm just wondering like these were frequency devices, right?
They were massive frequency devices and they would radiate and interact with each other.
And everybody's talking about ley lines.
So, you know, we have, there is a grid, there's a natural energy grid of the planet that is understood.
Yes.
Right.
But it has been inactive or inactivated, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Or deactivated.
So this is something, and now we are on our own trying to kind of work our way back to a state of grace.
Isn't that interesting?
And what that makes me think of, and we'll do a show on this coming up, is the Markabah, which is the control of that energy stream.
Wow, incredible.
There's so much more to get to, but I think we're going to call it a night on that tonight.
It's at three hours and a fantastic.
Ideas room session here with you tonight.
The work is there, and the mystery groups, anthroposophy and theosophy, Casey's work, the fourth way, they brought it forward and they brought it for us.
And now it's a level of how do we take it and do we take it on as a culture, as a society, that foundation, and what does that foundation show us?
Closing with Gurdjieff Music00:06:21
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There's no question about it.
And with that, Miss Olivia, your super chats.
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How great it has been to be here with you, Amaretto Eyes.
It is Olivia Start Your Own Channel.
Exactly.
No, no, don't do it.
Don't do it.
Olivia, the ultimate 80s radio DJ voice.
That's interesting.
What a compliment.
What is the movie, Gross Point Blank, right?
They have the radio DJ.
Remember, we started this with that ain't no DJ.
That was hazy cosmic jive.
Thank you, DJ and Miss Olivia Darcy.
Thank you, Darcy.
Love you all.
1984, don't give up on love.
That sounds good.
Okay.
Thank you, you guys, even if you are Russian intel.
Yeah.
Oh, I can't do a Russian accent.
I do a German one pretty decent, but Guten Tag.
Oh, hey, look, the TV series The Magicians has a mirror world realm, also a few episodes about the moon, and it actually made sense in an odd way.
Jessica Rodriguez.
Okay.
The magician, it's Bill Bixby, I think, is it?
It's like an old.
1975 series.
That's what Bob Smolder was watching when his sister got affected.
Remember?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's right.
Great job, DJ and Olivia.
Johnny Ricardo, he's out there.
Excellent.
These devices are back, have been back.
Interesting soldier voice.
Yeah, I would agree.
I would agree.
Good night, my friends.
Peace and love to you all.
Ivan Langley, terrific.
Let's see.
Great crowd out there tonight.
Aquamarine.
Human potential has been suppressed.
Are you kidding?
That is really true.
My God.
Probably like 99.9%.
Okay.
Okay, I think it's actually more chaotic than a grid.
Okay.
Rishi mushrooms.
The bells of Tartaria.
There you go.
All kinds of great comments here tonight.
Donaway was out there rocking it hard.
Fantastic people out there tonight.
And let's see what we got.
Mike, thank you very much, sir, for being here.
Thank you.
Enjoy the moon vibes, indeed.
The lunar spies are out there tonight.
Can I ask you to recall an X Files episode?
Shoot for the moon.
Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
Norman Vincent Peale.
Absolutely.
Aim high.
Yeah.
Which one?
Do you remember the opening?
I think it's the usual suspects, but it's with the lone gunman and Kennedy had not been killed.
It was a parallel mention.
They start that one.
Yeah.
There's a dream like that.
Well, Stephen King did a whole series about that.
But do you remember somebody was asking about that episode called?
Um,.
Unusual Suspects, I think is the name of it.
Yeah.
Ospensky also has some great work on harmonic music notes and cosmology of man's possible evolution.
Yes.
Well, there's the Gurdjieff music.
If you can sit there and listen to that Gurdjieff music and not realize he got it from the mystery centers, then, I mean, it'll change you listening to it.
Robert Scott, great show tonight.
Thank you, DJ Miss Olivia.
Now we're talking.
Believe in me, Steve Visible.
All right.
Yes, we believe.
Please address.
Yes.
Good show.
Thanks, DJ and Olivia.
What a great crowd out there tonight.
This is fantastic.
Pyramid frequency and Schumann residents.
Yeah.
That's a whole show in itself.
And the pyramid part, gigantic.
Make no mistake about it.
The revelation of our time is the opening of the veil on the pyramid.
And I have no doubt that the pyramid predictions are coming right into this period, which is why we get such all stars to draw from as we have tonight, like Rudolf Steiner.
Gurdjieff, Ospensky, and others, these people have shaped such an interesting story for humanity.
But I followed them a good deal of my own life, and their work has never.
Well, you know, it's interesting because you always look for quality work in life, and there's so much quality in the things that they tried to do and the things that they brought forward.
So just think of somebody like Steiner and the kind of multiple lives that he led, but the influence and the impact over time.
So that's how it works.
When you get up to that level, you start operating almost as like five or six different people.
So that was a great X Series episode 215 Covert Moon Wars.
We will see you all next Friday with a special interview.
And then we'll be back with you with a new X Series episode the Friday after that.
But watch out, we're going to be there for you.
And it says end broadcast, but after all, never really ends.
Never really ends.
Never let it be forgot.
Once there was a Camelot, and there certainly could be again.
So we just keep our mind bringing it into reality because thoughts are things after all.