Daniel Liszt connects the 1947 Roswell crash to the JFK assassination, citing whistleblower Dorothy and Deputy Sheriff J.D. Boone's testimony about a 7.65 Mauser rifle contradicting official narratives. The host argues a deep state operation involving the CIA, Lockheed Skunk Works, and figures like Chris Mellon suppressed evidence of alien technology at the Foster Ranch. Linking Vincent's account of a C-54 flight transporting an Oswald double to Area 51, Liszt claims aerospace interests orchestrated both events to conceal advanced tech, suggesting mainstream media co-opted by corporate interests hides these truths while promoting sensationalist UFO theories. [Automatically generated summary]
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New UFO Threat Emerges00:15:03
And we are live.
This is Dark Journalist.
What a fantastic crowd we have out there in the ideas room already.
Of course, tonight I am joined by the lovely Olivia.
Hi, everybody.
And Olivia, my mother said to get things done, you better not mess with Major Tom.
What about Major Vincent?
Okay.
That's what we're going to find out tonight as we explode many of the myths around Roswell and give you the real story, which is loaded with the UFO file overture.
And we establish a deep connection tonight that's going to change the entire history of the way we look at this.
Of course, we started off with some technical issues tonight when we went to go live at 8 o'clock.
StreamYard was quitting with its live stream, and then the soundboard zapped out, as you may have heard.
So our wonderful, killer, great soundboard took a hike, but we have the backup.
Old one rolling for tonight.
Dusty one.
And we'll see how that all comes together.
And then, of course, new sound is on the way.
But it's great to have so many people out there in the ideas room tonight.
I'm going to remind you that what we're going to do tonight is go a couple hours with you here.
The first half will be this presentation, which is Roswell Reignited.
It's X Series 199.
That's Roswell Reignited, the bombshell JFK UFO file.
Yeah, there's a JFK, a major JFK piece I alluded to last week, but I'm really going to fill out that picture.
For you and for people who follow the Roswell story, and of course, we've all been so so saturated with it, but I will tell you there's always been very unusual things that were highly unexplained about it, and it stands out as this kind of seminal key event in all of UFO file history.
But tonight, I'm going to give you something new on it, and that's what's going to be so so exciting, and it might help all of that compressed information that's been coming out since the 1980s television specials, books, you know, last minute testimonials.
Alien beings, crash saucers, the ranch, the whole bit.
Well, what's interesting is the deeper you get into it, how true all of the account is and how important it is to not reinterpret, but base, you know, interpret it based on the facts.
And the facts actually support so much of the literature that's come out.
I'm just going to add something tonight and it'll be on the shoulders of all the people that have put out so much good work and testimony around the event.
And of course, when the military and the CIA and that deep state operation gets their hands on these things, it's very hard to get every detail.
But tonight, there's a kind of a crack in time with all this.
And I'm going to give you something very interesting to open that entire event up and see how it correlates to these UFO file deep events over time and history.
And in the second half, we're going to take your questions and we'll do QA.
You can ask those questions now.
Miss Olivia will be putting them together.
In the meantime, before I go any further, what do you got out there?
Lois says I wish all the podcast presenters had DJs grooming looking sharp.
That's hilarious.
Everybody's looking good out there tonight.
And I'll tell you, this is going to be a very special show.
I have to tell you that this particular episode is probably going to run into a series of episodes.
And they're probably going to all be concurrent because there's a lot of information coming my way on this as well.
So my research got me to a certain place.
And then I guess what you could call really a whistleblower in all this has come forward.
And the whistleblower is Dorothy.
And Dorothy is going to contribute some very interesting pieces to this puzzle in the coming weeks.
We've already set up how to record her in a way that does not reveal her kind of corporate life identity so that she can function in her regular routine.
But she's given some such important keys in this story that her.
Participation is huge, major.
She's already opened a number of things up on this story for me.
And what she has to say supports a whole line of research I have coming into this.
So, between the two, you get this incredible, just devastating contrast and collusion there, which will really blow up into an amazing series of X series episodes.
I can tell you that when you get around something like this and you have something major, then all of that information.
Goes into a kind of a crisscross.
This is what happens when a new piece of information about a deep event comes forward.
And it is easier over time through history.
Sometimes it can happen, you know, based on a present case that's going on.
There's a breakthrough and, you know, bang, everybody comes through this corridor, you know.
But the historical ones, it usually does take a certain amount of time for certain types of deep state activity to unravel.
So, you know, a sort of common idea now people understand that the Kennedy assassination.
Was the operation of far more than just Oswald, and most people understand and assume it's a central intelligence agency.
We have committees investigating that now.
And it's funny because I found an article in MSNBC, of all places, complaining about those committees like, dag, dag bummer.
Those investigating the JFK assassination or the 60s assassinations or the deep state side with the UAP, the whole thing should just be thrown out.
And it's interesting because, you know, I've been critical.
Of those committees and the D class committee, I put together a whole video responding to them and giving them things to go after.
Tonight, I'm going to give them something huge to go after that was originally not accepted by the assassination record review board and is completely left by the wayside, which is the testimony of Vincent.
And Vincent is going to come into this story with an amazing crisscross through history, as is a sheriff's deputy.
From Texas, from Abilene, Texas, named Eugene Boone, who was the one who found the rifle in the Texas School Book Depository.
Well, I alluded to the fact that he had a huge Roswell connection tonight.
I'm going to fill that picture out for you.
Everyone, get ready.
This is X Series 199.
It's Roswell Reignited.
And when I say Reignited, don't take it lightly.
This one is going to send you zooming over the top.
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Everything coming up this month.
I can tell you that Joseph Farrell is coming up this month, Gigi Young, I mean, just off the charts.
And then we have some very interesting surprises from guests we haven't heard from in a while and new guests.
So all of that coming up.
For your summer.
Not only that, we have the docuseries piece as well.
More episodes in the docuseries dealing with JFK and the UFO file and the exotic technology.
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Miss Olivia, you're up.
Complisiart says, make ufology great again, DJ.
Indeed.
My sentiments exactly, and make it fun again.
Well, there's this terrible thing going on where, you know, the typical, the usual suspects are propping up this guy who's supposedly the new whistleblower, and now he's putting out like weird occult symbols on Twitter and being like, Elon, do you see my occult symbols?
I have the key to the UFO file.
And this guy was a serious person, you know, he had like a serious military career.
And I don't know, you know, the typical Corbell, Knapp, that whole circus thing convinced him to come out with this nonsense.
And now people are supposed to read into these weird codes.
They're like, he's using Enochian language, you know.
I'll tell you, the Central Intelligence Agency is interesting the way that they work because one of the things that they were doing, of course, was amping up the UFO threat.
And there was a ripple right off of this show that was pushing back against it that got right through it.
And they started to freak out.
Some very interesting things have come out of that, in fact.
And what we've seen now is they switched for a little while to this psionic thing like, oh, UFOs are psychic and the CIA agents are psychic too.
Isn't that fun?
But of course, the CIA, the only objective that they have with the UFO file is to make it singularly an issue where they can seize more emergency powers and to create this entire UFO threat that doesn't exist.
UFOs exist.
Their false version of UFOs doesn't.
You see how that works?
Very often, I will get people who get sucked into all that propaganda of Lou and all those other people and saying, you know, oh, the CIA is trying to give us disclosure.
Why can't you take the win?
Take the win.
Well, I don't want the win from the CIA.
No, thank you.
I take the win from the real stuff that we pressure the government to give us and not a pumped up marketing campaign.
That's a very important difference.
I want to.
Since we started with a little bit of that, and his name is Matthew Brown, for anyone who's keeping score on that.
But this guy and his, you know, I was in the military and now I want Imam Musk to, you know, give me UFO disclosure.
It's like, and, you know, the whole Musk thing with him showing his kind of psycho traits, which is very dangerous to have anyone like that on any level of government or any important office, period.
And I think Trump now has got, you know, got a better idea of who he's dealing with.
There and there's all kinds of political things going on in relation to the big, beautiful bill, and they should hassle it out and take things out of there, including all these sections that are dealing with making AI kind of invincible.
No, you shouldn't have that in any kind of bill, and so there's a battle that's going on there.
But I think the whole thing around Musk that's important to note is when he goes off on his tangents, you know, in order to win, he'll do anything.
And so when he went after the president and said, You know, you're all tied in with Epstein and all this stuff over a disagreement.
There's something in the background there that's not become apparent yet, but Elon must have lost a particular contract relating to SpaceX.
I know he didn't get his NASA guy in, and Trump was talking about that.
But whatever it was, Elon thought he was going to be able to control Trump.
It was a bad idea, really bad idea.
And I will also say this that I think he shows kind of a psycho streak when he feels like he can't win things.
And temporarily, he threatened to leave those astronauts stranded out there by decommissioning the Dragon, all that rocket system that goes up there to the International Space Station.
Later, he backed off, and he better have.
But, you know, it just shows this kind of crazy, I'm going to win no matter what streak.
And I think he's going to take a gigantic step down from all of this and from those antics, you know, and that's what's made, you know, the whole thing to such a schlock scene.
But we saw him act like this over the H 1B visa situation as well, where he was demoting ex accounts and all this kind of stuff.
Listen, you don't need somebody like that in charge of anything important regarding national security, space, and all the rest of it.
So, I think they're going to have to settle some things out with Musk.
And in terms of the Trump administration, I think that Trump has seen pretty clearly who he's dealing with there.
But here's on that side of the UFO threat piece, because I think Brown, again, they're bringing forward this piece.
They're trying this occult grimoire approach, which is not going to work, because here we have how many shows in the mystery schools?
You're not going to be able to pull it off.
You also won't be able to pull off Peter Thiel disclosure over here, as they're trying to do.
But here's something that John Warner IV wrote in relation to some of my back and forth with Grush and then with Mellon.
And he's talking here to his cousin Chris Mellon.
And I think it's important for the record.
Now, this is from last year, but he says, okay, now you are laying yourself bare to the opposition by lashing out against them non calmly and uncollectively.
Your family to me, but clinging to an evil intelligence community system of blackmail threats and termination orders is a fool's errand on steroids.
The higher roundtables lied to you, Chris.
They sent you out unprepared for a fight, unprepared for a harsh reality that will run us all under a tsunami.
The dirty laundry will encompass us all, and it won't be pretty.
That's John Warner IV, a frequent guest on this program, and the son of Catherine Mellon and John Warner, the late senator.
And his cousin is Chris Mellon.
He knows all about what the UFO threat piece is about.
And, you know, this is really what we're up against.
And so when they roll out Matthew Brown, And they do this whole thing now.
It's the same thing.
Mellon's behind it all.
He's just trying different ways to achieve the same results.
And, you know, I wanted to put this on the record too, which is when we had this whole back and forth with Dave Grush, who was the UFO whistleblower, who came out last year and did all this stuff.
And then he and I had this back and forth.
And in conversation that we had, he told me that Chris Mellon controlled the whistleblowers and he couldn't come on this program to give the truth out to everyone in the ideas room and our thousands of listeners.
And I said, well, that's wrong.
It's wrong that Chris Mellon should be able to control you like that.
And he seemed to think that he couldn't get out of that kind of control.
The Secrecy Problem Explained00:05:38
And I wanted to read this because it's his original email to me.
And I'll tell you how this connects in all as we go along tonight with this Roswell Reignited piece.
But this is where so much of this is at.
The same clash is actually going on.
But this is Gresh now saying, Good morning.
I've been following your work for quite some time, and I'm aware of your recent discussions with certain individuals.
Actually, I printed out the full thing here.
Hang on just a second.
Here we go.
And I'm aware of some of your recent discussions on your channel regarding myself.
While I'm associated with certain individuals you have concerns about, Mellon, Elizondo, et al., and honestly, that's very warranted, this is him now.
There is more than meets the eye.
I'm very aware of how complex the UFO file issue is and the X Protect faction that goes back to the late 19th century based on.
My independent knowledge.
I remember Ex Protect is what we brought forward here, and this is Grush saying yes.
I have associated myself with certain individuals to understand the concerns of other factions and assess their objectives to get us to the true objective of transparency.
I assume you know this, but look up Speaker Johnson's new national security advisor, Josh Hodges.
He just came from DOE NNSA and was on NSC for Trump.
It's not shocking to me that the UAP Disclosure Act failed.
And, you know, so these are interesting things he's pointing out.
Here's the next piece.
You have every right to be skeptical of me, and since I am a former intelligence officer, I do understand your initial misgivings.
I can assure you I'm not part of a PSYOP, witting or unwitting, and I would like the opportunity to address your concerns on a call per your schedule.
I'd rather be fighting this issue on a united front, and I want to understand your deeper scholarship on this matter.
Now, Grush, when I talked to him, told me that he basically had watched every episode of the X series, and that, you know, other people in this space, Like the Peter Thiel guy, Jesse Michaels guy, he regularly watched all the episodes and then he reconstructed from the episodes to do this kind of plagiarism trip that he did.
What Grush was trying to tell me is that he shared the same types of concerns.
And what I got from him was that he had some legitimate things that he found while he was in government through the NGA and the NRO, and that the only people that seemed available to be able to do anything with were Elizondo and Mellon and all those people.
And then they started to control where he could.
Go and what he could do.
So, what after we had our phone discussions, he did a big Wall Street event.
And what I found out is there were 500 representatives there of $550 billion in the room in Manhattan.
And Chris Mellon was there, and all these Homeland Security people and CIA people.
So I thought, okay, they dropped him into the middle of that, and Grush is going to keep saying, oh, you know, I can't help it.
I'm surrounded by all these people.
So I decided that that didn't sit well with me.
And that's where all of that.
You know, sort of clash came from, and then Mellon freaked out.
Now, the whole thing stands exactly there.
It hasn't moved an inch.
This is the nature of the thing.
So, all the things that they've rolled out remember the egg guy, the guy who loved the egg, Jake somebody or other?
You know, all these things that they've rolled out, they haven't given the public anything.
And what they're trying to do is recreate this threat piece over and over again with counterintelligence agents.
It's obvious.
We've put it on the record.
And the more we put it on the record, somebody like Brown instantly, that whole thing is deflated.
Those people don't understand it.
So, in the ideas room here, it's very clear to us, and we should make it clear to them, which is they're not going to be able to do this.
They're not going to be able to roll out these whistleblowers, have them say wild things of one thing or another, and have Melon in the background controlling them like marionettes.
So, this is the nature of that problem.
Until we get past that, you'll never get anywhere in the field.
You'll keep getting this kind of entertainment floor show, and it's getting more and more stale, frankly.
And how often can you put up with it?
Somebody like Elizondo or Mellon.
And, you know, Mellon just came out last week, and it was the same stuff.
It's all the same stuff.
Oh, you know, I know the government has crashes and all this stuff.
He was the mayor of Area 51.
He was the one who oversaw the secrecy.
And Mellon, you know, he in 2016 said, the government's not hiding anything.
There are no aliens.
There are no UFOs.
I would know I've been overseeing these programs at Area 51.
Right.
Well, I take you at your word.
So what changed?
Obviously, the incentives change.
And this is where the rubber meets the road.
So don't fall for any of that Matthew Brown nonsense or the Corbel nonsense or whatever.
If they have a legitimate person who came forward who was well documented, You know, I'd be all ears.
He'd be the first person on this show.
That was the whole thing over Grush.
I said, come out and be honest.
You know, if you talk to me and you take the kind of tough questions that I'll give you, that people will know that you're honest.
They can't do that.
You know, just like Elizondo, because when he said, I quit the government and I'm a whistleblower, I knew it was BS just from a little bit of research.
When I went deeper, I found out he's being paid by five different government agencies.
Well, that's not somebody who quit the government.
He's working full time for the government and for James Clapper.
So, you know, then he admits that in his book.
And then, why?
You know, there's no sort of reflection on the independent side.
This is the nature of the problem.
Punk Rock Demon Aliens00:03:11
And a lot of this gets back to, and I'll save this part for another program, but something that I've found out is going on in the background because I talked to all the kind of marketing PR people, because I still have those connections from my old media days.
And now they're all in the podcast space.
And there's something in that space, which I'll refer to it here as peak metric.
And what they need to do is they need to throw as much spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks as they can.
And with the podcast environment, they're all trying to get higher and higher on the Spotify, Apple, and YouTube charts.
So now you have these people who are highly unqualified and doing these podcasts and things talking about deep subjects that they haven't spent any time on.
And eventually that process goes further and further into the ground.
And it's funny because we were talking about the punk rock thing.
And what was the name of the boutique?
Hot Topic.
Hot Topic, yes.
So, you know, the music analogy here is you have this really hardcore.
Punk scene that existed in the beginning, and it was to throw off the man.
You know, the hippies initially did it, and then the punks came along and really did it.
But then, after a while, you know, the suburban environment was like, hey, we like the punk ethic.
And so they started to pop up these stores, and Hot Topic was the one that was in all these malls across America, and they had kind of like designer punk stuff, you know, be your own punk rocker.
And that was the end of, you know, the whole punk rock thing.
What's interesting when you look at that is.
This cycle repeats itself, whether it's in music or film or whatever.
And it's reached this point in the podcast space.
But before it gets to a really, really bad scene, I'm trying to call it out so there can be some sense that there are people out here who have some idea that the whole thing is about getting the deep information out there and potent, potent information with the best guess, with the most intelligent approach on the subjects.
And there can be all kinds of disagreements.
That's fantastic.
But the kind of idiocy that you have going on, I was just.
Showing Olivia before we started, there's this podcast.
I won't even mention it, it's a popular podcast.
The guy is talking about how this woman is going along and this demon alien.
This is their new thing now, which is demon alien.
So all aliens are demons now.
This is the new wave.
And because they've realized in the marketing research that they need to go after the Christian market, and they know that the Christian market in general doesn't want to deal with UFOs except as the fallen angel evil ones.
And so this is a problem because it's manipulation of Christians and their beliefs and all the rest of it.
But they see the huge demographic there.
And so now all the UFO stories they're pushing out on these podcasts, which appeal to a kind of more conservative end of the spectrum or Christian end of the spectrum, now all of the alien stuff has to be demons, right?
Oh, they're all demons, you know.
So I was reading this write up on this particular podcast, the most ridiculous thing in the world.
How can anybody walk this back?
You know, it's like the demon alien showed up and was spraying hot acid at me, you know.
I mean, it's getting into.
Self parody in a major way.
Keeping the Unreal World Alive00:04:11
But it started with the exploitation of the UFO field by the Intel types, by the counterintelligence types.
And that was part of a program, and Mellon was the bank behind that program.
I don't know how many times I've put that across.
But if this whole field doesn't get that and doesn't get that Mellon's behind it, then you're never going to get to first base.
Everyone watching the Dark Journalist Show, going deep, deep tonight, it's Roswell reignited.
And I have something powerful facts to reignite it with you for.
It's X Series 199.
And there's a major piece of the JFK UFO file here.
Before we go any further, Miss Olivia, what do you got?
Kryptonians13 says Did Daniel listen to InfoWars today?
Roger Stone told Alex that George Joannidis files were not released and they're the most important.
I wonder where he heard that.
LOL.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah.
Well, I think, look, anywhere you can get the information about Joannidis out there.
What's interesting is a lot of people who.
When they get to the Joe Nitties thing, it's fascinating because they don't realize it's the explosive part of it is that it's the aerospace connection to the JFK assassination.
This is why the CIA has held it, even with an executive order staring them in the face.
They're like, we don't care because you're not going to take our whole program of aerospace intel deep state action.
So we're just not going to give it to you.
End of story.
And, you know, so they gave them this stuff so that some researchers, you know, Who knows the subject on some level, the deep state researchers can say, aha, you know, the CIA did have a memo where they were trying to cover it up.
You know, big deal.
You know, everyone's known that.
Any real researchers know that.
So it's not about those researchers getting an aha moment after 50 years or whatever.
What's more important is the public needs the entire system to recognize the assassination executive action program so that it can't be used again as they attempted to use it last August.
In the presidential race with two, and I mean, the Pennsylvania Butler incident with Trump is clear executive action, you know, and you have the Secret Service involved, you have Homeland Security involved, and that needs to be investigated.
And so when you get guys like Patel or Bongino, who joined the FBI, saying that there was nothing to Thomas Matthew Crooks, look, I can tell you right off the bat their drone failed.
That's why they didn't see anybody setting up on the roof.
It's ridiculous nonsense.
It's the same thing as saying the cameras failed when Oswald went to the Mexico City Soviet embassy.
The lies are thick and long.
And I could sit here all night and tell you how many inconsistencies there are, including the fact that we're not even sure that at the end the person on that roof was Thomas Matthew Crooks.
How weird is that?
This is the nature of the environment that we're in.
So, keeping that all in mind, keeping the unreal world in mind as we go along here tonight, let's look.
At what took place back in July of 1947 and how it related to what took place November 22nd of 1963 and where that leaves us in 2025.
We're going to be jumping decades here as we go along tonight.
And I told you that we're going to be taking your questions in the second half of tonight's program and keep it on track with the episode.
This is not an episode where people are going to talk about pancake syrup.
You're going to, you know, this is the information.
And like I said, this is an open door now to about three or four different episodes.
And Dorothy, who is the whistleblower around so much of this, she's going to be, she'll either be in the next episode or follow up.
She's in that next couple of weeks.
She's coming.
Forward right on this program.
So I'll have more information.
I'll mention some of her revelations tonight, but she's a very powerful witness to all this as we go.
Yes.
How long was your conversation with Dorothy?
Rocketry Roots at Roswell00:03:05
Oh, forget it.
This was about five hours.
Wow.
Somewhere in there.
We've been in contact, but she has a lot of information and a lot of things that connect with a certain line of research that I've been after.
And It's a brave thing for her to talk about it.
She enjoys a very kind of important corporate job.
There's no way that she could come out, you know, just publicly straight up, but we've arranged it so that she's going to be able to put these things on the record.
Her record checks out rather dramatically in the background.
As we get along tonight, we'll get hints of it, and then I'll show you where she fits in with all of this.
All right.
I'm going to take you back.
The incident happens now.
All the way back in July of 1947.
But I'm going to take you back to what was happening around Roswell just previous to that, going back to the 1930s with an individual here who was working with these very, very interesting rockets, which is Goddard.
And we've done a number of episodes relating to Goddard and his early aerospace experiments and how he was keeping up.
With the whole V2 situation, and eventually, how certain figures out there, like, for example, von Braun, said he was the father of rocketry.
But Goddard, Robert Goddard, he was an incredible scientist.
He had these visions of how we could get to the moon and Mars and all this stuff.
And it was a very kind of, in his head, he was like kind of the Da Vinci of the rocket launchers and a great scientist.
But part of what happened is that.
He got very frustrated with how the government was dealing with his program, and he got very close to Guggenheim.
Guggenheim, who were known as art dealers and things, decided to back him.
This became a very interesting thing where Guggenheim got to meet the Guggenheims through Charles Lindbergh.
Lindbergh really believed in his rocket experiments and visited him at MIT and all the rest of it.
Also, he had some very interesting students.
Goddard did when he was at Caltech.
One of those students was Jack Parsons, the other father of our rocketry program, and laced, laden through the occult world as deep as you can go.
So, one of the interesting things that Guggenheim, Lindbergh, and Goddard decided is that they could get the best bang for their buck testing these rockets out in Roswell, New Mexico.
And this is an early shot of Goddard driving one of his rocket models.
This says here about 25 miles northwest of Roswell.
The Mac Ranch Mystery00:05:14
The Roswell Foster Ranch, where the crash happens, is 60 miles northwest, so you're half the way there.
But you have to understand this photo is from 1932, so we're talking 15 years before the incident takes place.
It's crucial to understand there's something already unusual going on in relation to the location.
The deeper you get into it, the weirder it is.
And then you start to wonder about the ownership of the ranch.
Where the Roswell crash happens.
And when I got into that aspect, that's the trail that I've been on for a while.
But before we get to the owners of the ranch, I'm going to show you the correlation.
Well, let's get into a little bit about the crash and then the correlation to the Kennedy assassination, this overlap, which I mentioned last week and is explosive and could reignite the entire case.
So, The crash that happens basically, there's a number of different accounts.
There's great researchers out there who've already taken it down.
And what I've really done is just drilled down to the basics on what took place.
And so, for our purposes tonight, what we're going to do is say that there was a major storm that was going on.
And in between some of those thunderclaps, people heard something that was dramatically louder that sounded like a bomb going off.
And a few people.
Actually, had visual on what had taken place there, including a guy who, for some reason, was out at night checking out his windmill.
And what he said is he saw something that looked like a red, blinking light heading right towards his ranch.
And a number of them heard this incredible sound, and everybody was kind of freaked out, but nobody really knew what to do about it.
And the fact that they didn't hear that there was any atomic exchange, so they went back to bed.
So, this crash that takes place when we get to this particular ranch that Mac Brazil is the foreman for, Brazil is, you know, from all accounts, just a good old cowboy, like a hardcore guy, rancher, has a family there, and he's the foreman for the Fosters.
The Fosters are very interesting.
They are these twins who are ranchers, and Sherwood is kind of the lead, Henry Sherwood is kind of the lead one.
And his brother, Jay, is somebody who kind of seeds a lot of the decisions to him.
And they're both deeply, deeply involved with something called the Church of Christ.
And this becomes important later, and I'll tell you why, just in terms of connections and things.
But that branch that this comes off of is related to that Reformation period.
And it's when there's a whole reconstruction thing in relation to the religions, and people like Thomas Campbell and others come forward.
It's a very interesting thing about Campbell there, but Mormonism comes out of that wave and all the rest of it.
But this group, which I think in many circles has a great reputation on the humanitarian side, well deserved, tend to have a code, kind of like the Mormons, where they all tend to work together.
And from my own investigations, it seems like that's the connecting link in the background, which is if I'm going to hire somebody to do a particular thing and I'm part of this Christian church environment, it's going to be somebody from the church.
And what you find out when you look at all these pieces is.
And the people around the Fosters is that everyone that they're hiring to do these things is part of the church.
Now, when we get to the crash, of course, this Brazzle goes out and he's with an eight year old boy who is the son of his neighbor.
And the boy does chores on the ranch and things like that.
He's misidentified in the beginning as Mac's son.
And Mac does have a son that's associated with this crash who comes to a very tragic end.
He has actually, he has other children who do just fine.
But in this particular case, we have another witness who's a child, an eight year old boy, who sees all of the incredible sprawling display.
Now, you've always wondered about the actual debris field and all the rest of it.
But what it basically comes down to from Jesse Marcel's description is that you're looking at something which was close to a mile now.
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In length, and the diameter of the entire thing was somewhere around 500 feet.
So it's a huge, incredible crash.
Whatever it was, was gigantic.
And over and over again, the sprawling amount of the wreckage becomes the key thing that these witnesses go over.
And I'll read a couple of those quotes as we get along here tonight.
So, whatever it was, was major.
And, you know, there's a number of researchers after the fact who attributed it.
And, you know, but what we have to understand is that the government, they attributed it to different things like secret technology, Nazi technology, and these other things.
And I'll get into how that plays into this.
But basically, the government's response as it goes along, as it becomes aware of the situation, is to get rid of the story.
But before that happens, one of the stand up guys in the middle of all this is Jesse Marcel.
And Major Marcel is the top intelligence officer of the only group.
Who in 1947 could drop the atomic bomb?
So we have to understand the level of expertise that he has.
And as we go along tonight, this is a key thing about all the witnesses, you know, from the later parts of tonight's story, like Vincent and to the earlier part, like Marcel.
These are top, top witnesses, like the best kind of witnesses that you would want.
And what happens is, according to his own testimony, Marcel tells us, well, You know, first of all, you have to understand when they say Roswell, I had to drive out most of the day just to get there.
And a lot of it wasn't on roads.
So the thing wasn't even, you know, where the Foster Ranch was, was pretty far out there.
And it's interesting to note that, you know, Marcel's reputation for integrity and intelligence work, he'd been a pilot since 1928, you know, so he already had been flying for 20 years.
And he was very familiar with all of the things that we used in our modern programs.
And he had to be because of the nuclear aspect and nature of the base that he was at, and that he was in charge not only of intelligence but security.
So think about the number of things that he was aware of.
And it's funny because when you go into his history a little bit, you'll find him teaching intelligence very early on, all the way up in Pennsylvania.
So this guy had a seriously heavy background.
He wasn't just somebody's.
Puppet officer, you know, he understood what was going on, and I will say this also about his conclusions.
He understood immediately the nature of the situation that there was a problem because the wreckage itself had strange magical properties.
One of those magical properties is it seemed like the metal itself could levitate at times, or it also had that capacity which it couldn't be burned or, uh, you know, torn in any way.
It also had an incredibly light, um.
You know, anyone who studied the story understands the light quality.
So, this is no thicker than a pack of tinfoil and a pack of cigarettes.
So, when we think about that, the material itself has, you know, extraordinary exotic properties.
And the other thing that's interesting about it, of course, is that just on a human kind of test level, when you grab it and crumple it up, it goes back to normal immediately.
And then, everyone who talked about it, it seems like the metal has this fascination for them because it does all these magical things right before your eyes.
Then, of course, there's a series of beams associated with the wreckage, and these have very unusual markings that resemble hieroglyphs.
Now, it's interesting because some of the whistleblowers from the current wave that are coming through that whole melon thing are trying to readopt some of the core pieces of the original story of Roswell.
So they're saying, oh, yeah, you know, when I was in this hangar, I saw this thing with all these hieroglyphs on it.
The hieroglyph story is deep, deep.
In the woof and the deep sense of the entire UFO story, because you have other cases like Keksberg where people are like, well, the whole thing was surrounded by hieroglyphics.
Well, in Marcel's case, what he sees are these hieroglyphs, and he describes these beams and then these various markings, and they seem to be raised up on this metal, and he described them as purple.
But very strange, you know, and to think about this guy flying the kind of jets and different planes that we have for World War II, and then to see this, you know, an incredible shock.
So he realizes it's a problem.
He gathers up some of that wreckage.
And I've got a couple of pictures here of Brazil and the ranch.
That is Brazil there doing his regular job tending cattle and sheep.
I mean, you know, It's a very basic farm.
It doesn't even have electricity.
So, you know, we're talking about super basic.
And you'll find in Roswell, that was kind of the nature of the environment.
This is where Marcel and Brazil, along with another individual who was in civilian clothes and wasn't identified until much later, and another intelligence officer, put all the wreckage.
Originally, which is one of these barns inside of Roswell, Foster Ranch.
And they stack it in there, and then he takes a bunch of it.
He's going to bring it to the base, but it's really late now, and he decides, I'm just going to drive home.
It's a long enough drive, and then I'll go to the base.
So when he drives home, he shows it to his son, Jesse Marcel Jr., who I communicated with a little bit before he passed away.
He was an extraordinary guy.
He was a physician who served in Iraq, and I think he had the rank of colonel.
And he always, you know, after he accepted his father's story, he remembered the whole thing about, you know, his dad coming home with these I beams.
And he remembered the entire thing about the wreckage and the strange memory metal and everything else.
So Roswell has a few moves that a lot of the, you know, kind of crash retrieval stories in the future didn't quite have, which is the amount of witnesses who were involved.
It's just extraordinary, one.
Two, that, you know, it's not understood and why it's such a false thing to say that, oh, the government put the Roswell thing out there as some kind of weird story.
The government never put the story out.
This is the weird thing.
Yes, the press release originally came out of the army, but he was the PR guy who jumped the gun after he heard the intelligence officers and what they had to say.
So the entire thing hit.
The papers and all the rest of it before the intelligence forces and the military, you know, the brass really had a chance to say anything about it.
So, as soon as they heard anything about it, they instantly backtracked the story, got rid of it as a weather balloon, and knocked it out from history.
Now, this is not clearly understood when I hear people talk about it who are trying to examine the case.
They're always like, Oh, Roswell was this thing, it was a PR thing, and all those.
Look, from 1947 to 1979, there is not one word.
About Roswell.
It doesn't appear in any of the UFO literature in the 50s or the 60s or the 70s.
The only place the idea of it surfaced was in Kilgallen's work when she knew, because she was very tuned in, that something had been covered up back there.
And this goes to some of the weirdness.
And we discussed her in the Maryland case last week.
But it needs to be kept in mind that Roswell did not exist as a story at all.
So therefore, You know, what kind of a thing is that for the government to do as a PR exercise, as a propaganda thing?
Or we're going to put the story out that'll only work 32 years later, you know?
So, no, the government covered up the story and it was gone.
The only way it was rediscovered is that after all this time, Marcel, it was weighing heavy, heavy on his conscience.
And Marcel becomes so important to the crux of this story as we go along.
And that's where we're going next.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
This is Roswell Reignited.
And boy, is there a bombshell in the middle of it.
Middle of all this with the JFK UFO file as well.
We'll be taking your questions in the second half tonight.
And like I said, we'll go a couple hours with you.
So we'll be here till about 11 tonight on the East Coast here from Cambridge, Massachusetts.
And before we go any further, Miss Olivia, what do you got?
Tim Houston says Jesse Marcel would have known a weather balloon when he saw one.
Yes.
I mean, this is the fundamental thing.
And yet, the actual excuse for the Roswell crash based, you know, in any kind of traditional explanation.
The official explanation, the one that holds in all the history books and everything else, is that it was this Project Mogul balloon.
Now, originally it's just a weather balloon.
Then later it's this Project Mogul balloon to test and see if the Soviets are setting off nuclear devices.
Look, they put a bunch of crash test dummies together and took pictures of them in the 1950s.
And the Air Force rolls those out and says, these were the aliens, see?
I mean, they don't look like grays to me.
And also, they weren't doing that in 1947.
So, the whole thing, you know, when they did in the mid 90s, the Air Force came out with this Roswell Revisited.
Hey, you know, case closed.
It was all just a weather balloon.
All nonsense and all lies, which, you know, we're very accustomed to when it gets around a story that important.
And you can even see how they lied about it initially.
But to lie about it, you know, 80 years later is ridiculous.
And I think that is important to tune into as well, which is, It became a pattern of how to lie about things, which is to come up with these very prosaic explanations and then to not have any of that follow up to just, you know, they did the same thing in the Kennedy assassination.
That's about, you know, 16 years later.
And it's one of the biggest propaganda efforts to silence people around it.
So much of the alternative media comes out of the suppression 60 years ago of the Kennedy assassination.
Think about that.
So we're living in the aftermath of that.
And this is the nature of the environment that we're in, which makes it all the more, I don't know, undignified the way that the podcast space is going with some of the peak metric marketing concerns that I told you about at the beginning of the show.
And, you know, the fact that people can go to that length, you know, and to really exploit the subject is something we need to get used to.
But it's not the same thing.
I want to point out in general that the independent media, You know, the way it stands now is just like the corporate media.
It is, you know, the corporate media was a paid media branch, often corporate media, state sponsored media.
And the independent media came up against them.
And at a certain point, the corporate media got nervous and just co opted the space so that so many of those people who made hundreds of millions of dollars, you know, with all the corporate lies come into the independent space and they're like, hey, you know, we're so open.
We're talking about UFOs.
And they're like, here's our guest today, CIA agent Lou Elizondo.
You know, so you're going to need a transformation in the space in general, I would say.
And so there's going to be a third avenue, and that avenue is the trail of that avenue, is what we take here with dark journalism.
But I think that's where you're going to see an earthquake of real material against the tsunami, which is very well funded.
You know, I mean, these guys coming out with this stuff, it's like five camera angles and all this marketing on top, you know, and they have all their PR stuff lined up.
They have the push to make the thing look like it's 10 times bigger than it is, all the rest of it.
And that's what you're getting.
And you're getting the outlandish things where they can't seem to get by a day without trying to grab something from the independent media.
And then they're going further and further with it.
Like, I'm attacked by an alien.
And you're seeing these people who previously were comfortable on financial business shows, and now they're flipping out talking about.
Bigfoot underground.
So, you know, it's a playing of the Intel, you know, the marketing space, and there's no real concern there.
The only thing they're concerned about, you know, you would say are numbers there.
Just like television shows that exploited this stuff, we're concerned about ratings.
So we're used to it.
I just think it's at a particular fever pitch right now.
Yeah, it's co opting.
Plain and simple.
Right.
What else you got?
Harvardian says, David Icke calls it MAM, mainstream alternative media.
Yeah.
Well, and Ike, I know he goes after them on a number of different platforms and things.
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And it's hilarious because, I mean, a lot of the things, you know, it's so funny because anyone who's done any real research in the field will know the topics extremely well.
And then, you know, you'll have something.
You know, like one of these podcasts comes out and talk about it, like they just discovered the thing, you know, and they're not only plagiarists, but bad plagiarists.
That's what we've been up against.
Havardian also says it's unlikely that Lieutenant Hout acted without the approval of Colonel Blanchard to release the press release, according to Joseph Farrell.
Well, I think that Walter Hout, they had a kind of a loose idea about what was going on.
And They did everything they could as soon as that release went out to pull it back majorly, including interrupting live radio broadcasts.
As soon as they understood the kind of general weight of the situation, the impact of the whole thing, they realized, oh my God.
And they had to do everything to lock it down and fast.
So, what they did, of course, classically, is they had Marcel.
Who understood very well that they knew that it was the real thing?
They had him pose with a false weather balloon and say, oh, yeah, it was a weather balloon and General Ramey and all the rest of it.
But it's interesting with Ramey because what they found out later is that he was holding a telegram that talked about a crashed craft and bodies.
They were able to blow that up through software and things like that.
So, you know, those guys were moving fast, fast, fast to deflect all this.
And we have to keep that in mind too.
Speed of which things were happening there to lock this down.
And then they were showing up to witnesses and saying, if you ever want any kind of future, you're never going to mention this again.
And they're threatening 12 year old kids and stuff like that.
So there's such a track of this.
And once in a while, you'll get a Roswell researcher who calls out another Roswell researcher and says, he's a phony or whatever.
It doesn't matter.
The weight of the testimony, whether you get one author that's a bad apple or whatever, it doesn't matter.
Because the testimony is from hundreds of people around what was basically a military community there at Roswell.
And this was an extraordinary event, and a number of organic things happened, like people kept little pieces of it, for example.
And we'll get into that as well.
But I think that having him pose with the weather balloon and saying, you know, telling him to shut up and keep his mouth shut, over and over again, when you get to Jesse Marcel later in life, he says, I was told to keep my mouth shut.
This is the crucial aspect.
He can't say anything about what he saw.
And the idea that they were testing, since he was the top intelligence officer at the nuclear base, that they were testing something right there that they weren't telling him about doesn't hold.
They would have told him he would have been one of the people in the know.
So something outside the box took place.
And in this case, it has all the earmarks of a major off world crash taking place right in the middle of all this.
And yet, there are so many strange things.
About it, including the presence of Goddard a decade before, that we need to look at the environment and say, what was it that was going on here that made it so attractive for Goddard on one hand, and then it made it such a magnet and a hotspot for something like this crash?
And is there a relationship to that, which is the fact that it was an ideal place because there was a base there?
Was there an off world base there?
Some of the things that come up tonight are so mind blowing, you're going to find yourself wondering.
Just what it was about Roswell, how deep that has influenced every deep event going forward from 1947 directly to 2025.
And I'll tell you, when they, you know, Don Jr. had President Trump on his podcast, he talked to him about it.
And Trump made some very interesting statements and unusual.
He had that unusual smile going on and saying, a lot of people, you know, want to know what took place there.
And I think a lot of interesting things happened.
So he knows very well what was going on there.
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't call in Uncle John for that one.
What else you got?
Right in CryptoBits says a debris field a mile long means that it was broken up way above the ground.
Isn't that interesting?
Well, of course, there's the second crash site, the crash at Corona, or the plains of St. Augustine.
And one of the things that really I think is mind boggling is.
You know, there's a water commissioner there named Barney Barnett who is doing his usual rounds.
And he sees this incredible craft etched in to, you know, the plains of St. Augustine there, which is the second crash site.
And what he sees, according to what he confided to those who were close to him, is a number of beings, half of a craft.
Half of them inside dead, half of them outside dead.
Very often, when you hear about the beings, you always hear about one being alive and the others being dead.
So apparently, one of them either resuscitated or something took place there.
But in any case, it's quite fascinating because while he is there observing this, a group of 16 archaeological investigators from the University of Pennsylvania, University of Pennsylvania, Is at the heart of what we do here on the X Steganography series because of the amount of secrets that have come through there.
And in this case, those archaeological students, they're walking along and boom, they see this craft.
They're coming over the plane, they're looking down on it.
He's looking at it on an eye level.
And while they're checking this out, freaked out, he sees the bodies.
He walks up to them, this Barnett character, and he has an incredible reputation for honesty, by the way.
And he doesn't touch them though.
He senses, so I understand what's going on.
And the way he would describe them is small body, big head, right?
Big eyes.
And here's his testimony.
I was out on assignment working near Magdalena, New Mexico one morning when light reflecting off some of the large metallic objects caught my eye.
Thinking that a plane may have crashed during the night, I went over to where it was about a mile, perhaps a mile and a quarter away from the flat desert land.
By the time I got there, I realized it wasn't a plane at all, but some sort of metallic, disc shaped object about 25 or 30 feet across.
While I was looking at it and trying to decide what it was, some other people came up from the other direction and began looking around at it too.
They told me later they were part of an archaeological research team from the University of Pennsylvania and that they too had first thought a plane had crashed.
They were all over the place looking at the wreck.
By the way, none of those people from that archaeological dig ever came forward.
There was a weird story about someone who was, I think, around 10 years old who was with them, who was like, Family of one of them.
And somebody came out later claiming to be him, but then he sort of went away, so I don't know if there was any validity to that.
And he continues here.
This is Barney Barnett.
I noticed that they were standing around looking at some dead bodies that had fallen to the ground.
I think there were others, other dead bodies in the machine, which was a kind of metallic instrument of some sort, a kind of disc.
It was not all that big.
It seemed to be made of a metal that looked like dirty stainless steel.
The machine had been split open by explosion or impact.
It's interesting because the idea of it being kind of a jettisoned capsule from the main ship that crashed major.
And here is this sort of shuttle craft, and the craft also gets into trouble and goes down because, of course, you have this description of a huge debris field over here, and then you have this.
What this guy is describing is not such a big craft.
And then he said, I tried to get close to see what the bodies were like.
They were all dead as far as I could see, and they were bodies inside and outside the vehicle.
The ones outside had been tossed out by the impact.
While we were looking at them, a military officer drove up in a truck with a driver and took control of the situation.
He told everybody that the army was taking over and get out of the way.
Other military personnel came up and cordoned off the area.
We were told to leave the area.
Not to talk to anyone, whatever, about what we had seen, and that it was our patriotic duty to remain silent.
So Barnett said that he was out in the field when he saw the thing, and that there were other individuals there with him.
And so there's a summation here the object was metallic like an instrument.
The individuals were quite small by our standard, their heads were larger in proportion to their bodies compared to our human standards.
And then the author's note here is I remember vividly that Barnett had been told to say absolutely nothing, and he had not done so for several years until he shared his experience with us in 1950.
We were close friends, perhaps the closest that he had.
Barnett referred to the creatures as males.
This is just how they seemed to him.
But they were dressed in these weird coverall suits.
Now, the description almost sounds like polyester, you know, even though they didn't have polyester yet.
And when you go flash forward to the incident that took place in Maine, I talked to one of the main figures in all of that named Charlie Fultz, the key figure, who described to me the Alligash experience that took place with him.
And that was a case that involved two mass art teachers, they were also twins, but two mass art teachers.
Friends who went out on this major fishing expedition.
And the Alligash, if you know the top of Maine, you have to fly in a helicopter in there, get dropped off, and then these guys go out for four days fishing and then they get out by plane.
So the creatures that they encountered that they talked about later looked like that.
So, and the way that they described it were, it looked like a bug in spandex.
So the Roswell.
Creatures are a little different than these, but again, we have the large heads and the big eyes.
So there's definitely a lot of crossover going on there.
So, what happens is Marcel, after he's given the runaround, you know, he goes to a base in Texas and they redirect the wreckage back to Ohio.
And that's where that becomes the kind of graveyard or the exciting headquarters of redevelopment, you could say, in Dayton, Ohio.
Of Wright Patterson becomes really kind of the core place where they do this, and that's where all the Roswell wreckage goes initially after the Texas run.
They do the photos and all the rest of it, and it's interesting because Marcel sort of loses his zest for intelligence work there, and he'll go on into sales and other things and eventually end up in Houma, Louisiana, where for 32 some odd years he hangs out in silence until he decides, I'm getting older, there's a mortality issue.
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The government never came clean on this.
I need to bring something of it out.
Now, it's interesting to note that although he went on the record talking about the crash and he talking about the hieroglyphs and the cover up and all the rest of it, that he didn't refer to bodies in his official statement.
But there is a woman who was a college student who interviewed him at length, and she has these audio tapes, and she put a book out about it.
And she's given a few interviews about this.
And when he's talking to her, she says, You still haven't told everything that you know about it.
And this is in the early 80s.
And he said, I can't, because that's part of my kind of national security oath.
I won't.
A lot of people around the case didn't want to talk about the bodies part.
And this gets us next to where we're going with the Foster Ranch and the strange, deep, deep connection with the JFK UFO file.
Going deep here tonight, everyone.
This is X Series 199.
And I'm telling you, this particular Roswell Reignited is going to be part of a multi set of episodes because we're going to have a very deep whistleblower, Dorothy, come forward and talk to us on the record about what she knows about this.
And it is fascinating.
But we're going to get to it all tonight.
Miss Olivia, what do you got?
Dave Tarmina wants to know, DJ, will tonight's episode include Eugene Hale Brading?
Who also found himself in and around Roswell and Dallas?
Well, we've got so much about Boone, but for sure, Braden is with his multiple names and appearances at the JFK assassination and the RFK assassination.
By the way, today's the anniversary of the death of Robert Kennedy, and that's 1968.
So it brings us to some 57 years later, and it's 57 years of silence in relation to that assassination, because, of course, there's a deep, deep aspect of Skunk Works involved in the Robert Kennedy assassination.
It's very interesting, too.
And, you know, what I want people to understand is when we look at these things on a historic level, it's crucial to figure out why aerospace was in the heart of so much of it.
Why is aerospace right there?
And what you typically get when they try to unravel, you know, through different specials and things and books is they go through individuals, you know, this person, this person, You know, Marcello really hated the Kennedys.
Those things always exist, frankly, you know, in the type of hatreds that existed in the power structures.
You know, tons of people hated Nixon.
He didn't get assassinated, you know.
So there's something very specific going on with the Kennedy brothers.
Okay, what are the odds?
You have guys like LBJ and Nixon and they're just fine.
How many enemies do they have?
They had plenty of enemies, but they didn't have and they didn't upset that internal structure to the point where.
They wanted to get rid of them, the inside players in the deep state.
And by the time they wanted to get rid of Nixon, they just had to use his own paranoia against him.
And they did unplug his presidency, but they didn't kill him.
So there's something very, very dramatic about the executive action that is used against the Kennedy brothers.
It is the great secret hanging out over the entire American political system.
And at the heart of it is the secret of exotic technology in that UFO file.
So it's an aerospace crime.
That's the way to look at it.
And the evidence that I can, you know, I've placed before you in so many different documentaries tonight is another major piece.
And again, everywhere we look, we're going to find aerospace at the heart of that executive action.
What else you got?
Blazer River wanted to know about Elrond Hubbard and Crowley and were they hanging around at this time in 1947?
Where do they fit into this story?
Oh, yeah.
Well, what you have to understand about.
Hubbard, Crowley, and Parsons is that they have a deep aerospace link, even though they're hardcore on the occult side.
And Hubbard going off and founding Scientology with his great sci fi mind, you know, at the core of Scientology is this whole thing about Thetas and, you know, the aliens and all the rest.
And Crowley certainly, with Lamb and all these other things, is alluding to these kind of interdimensional beings that look a lot like the Greys.
And the type of Of rituals that he's working on.
What they do basically is he's tried them for a number of times under controlled circumstances through his life.
And then he gets worried when Hubbard is taking Parsons kind of over the cliff.
There's a series of concerned letters about the rituals that they're doing out there in the desert, along with Parsons' wife, who later becomes known as the Witch of Los Angeles.
So that is a fascinating track in all of this.
And I think.
Just aside from the information itself, which is interesting, the thrust of it is that they were doing something mystically, which opened up a portal through which these aliens came through.
So, you know, there's a lot of things that work that way when you get around occult subjects.
There's no question about it.
So, that is another kind of interesting angle on all this.
All right.
Now, we have some thrust here about what was taking place.
There at the Roswell Ranch with the crash, with Jesse Marcel, with the number of people who were threatened into silence, with the government's cover up of the whole thing.
Now, what was it all about?
What it sounds like on the surface is what everyone saw was an unknown exotic craft.
It crashed majorly, and it wasn't like anything anyone had ever seen.
So either it came from an advanced group here or it came from an off world civilization.
Those are the two kind of conclusions hanging out there.
But the government didn't want anyone thinking like that.
They just wanted everyone to think it was a balloon and go away.
But this was hard because, again, like the Kennedy assassination, when something splashes into the public consciousness in that way, especially the fact that the story got out first, got ahead of the wheels of suppression, they didn't have a lot of UFO crashes in that period.
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They did start to pick them up.
You know, but this was the first hardcore.
There were earlier cases, of course.
Cape Girardeau happened six years earlier, but it kind of, you know, it didn't seem like it was happening on such a frequent basis.
So, a couple of things about the ranch, and then I'll read a quote about the people at the ranch.
Then we're going to jump to the JFK assassination, then to your questions.
Okay.
How's that sound?
Yes.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show, it's X Series 199.
And we're going Roswell reignited a bombshell, a JFK UFO file.
That is the crux of tonight's episode.
And I'll tell you, tonight's episode opens up a door of multiple episodes around this, including this whistleblower who we'll bring forward around it all.
Okay.
Sherwood Foster, a highly, highly religious man.
Starting all these homes for kids with broken homes.
And so he's one of the kind of original foster parent, you know, Christian community groups.
And he does extraordinary things with that as well.
What's interesting about Foster to me, there's a number of interesting things going on, but he himself, you know, he's a twin and he's adopted.
So he came from kind of difficult circumstances and he's adopted.
Into a fairly affluent family with his brother, and they're adopted as twins.
And then later he will adopt, and then he starts, you know, these homes for children.
And then some very unusual, interesting, I should say, connections show up around that.
These are some shots of just him at the ranch, and, you know, mostly they're based in Texas, as it turns out.
So, this is where their reputation is, and they have some of these other ranches.
One of those ranches that Mac Brazel is maintaining is the Foster Ranch in Roswell, where the UFO crashes.
This is a shot of Brazil and his wife a little bit later in life.
And it's interesting to note that Brazil dies about six weeks before the Kennedy assassination, oddly enough.
But one of the things that Brazil is doing is he had gone after the Roswell crash to Alaska.
I think he was kind of put away up there, get off the scene.
And so he's no longer working for the Fosters at that point.
He goes off to Alaska.
But his son disappears.
And it becomes a kind of a missing persons case, very strange.
And he has to come back to New Mexico.
And he ends up coming back to New Mexico.
And then he dies there on October 1st, 1963.
Now, I'm going to get into Brazil a little bit more, but I'm going to flash to a little more about the Fosters here.
I mentioned that the church.
That they come out of is part of this reconstruction and reformation activity that's going on.
And this individual is Thomas Campbell, who really kicks it off and becomes a major figure in it.
Now, for those of you who tried my mystery school work, know all about the readings of Edgar Cayce.
Well, oddly enough, this figure, Thomas Campbell, is, according to Edgar Cayce, the same two characters in the Bible reincarnated.
Noah and Elisha, who is the one who takes the mantle from Elijah before he goes off in a chariot of fire to heaven.
I just found that notable hanging out there in the background around this, that feeling of kind of a religious crisscross with the alien piece.
As we go along here tonight, that's going to get more and more fun to explore.
And, you know, I want to say in relation to the Christian group that we're going to look at tonight, in relation to Foster, that he was a part of.
This Christian church community, they have some very interesting restrictions.
One of the restrictions that they have is that you can't play an instrument in the church, that you are the instrument.
And so there's all this a cappella, toning, singing piece that goes along.
And so that's where they have this kind of crossover with the Mormons in a lot of ways, that there's a lot of things that are restricted.
But it's a very tight community and very big.
In that particular part of the United States.
This is part of that ranch, as I mentioned earlier, where they put a lot of the original wreckage on the Foster Ranch.
Now, this is a shot of the Foster Ranch earlier before the Roswell crash.
You can see, you just get a feeling for the environment there.
This is a very, you know, there's not a lot of electricity out here.
You might get some running water, maybe.
So, we're talking about a kind of a primitive rancher environment.
Some of these, I found these artist definitions that were inspired by witness stories of the crash, of the second crash site, kind of interesting.
That one in particular shows what the water commissioner Barney Barnett was talking about.
So, there's the crash craft, there's the army coming in and taking the bodies away.
Now, a couple of interesting things.
In relation to the fact, so let's get it clear in our minds that Brazil is the foreman, the Fosters are the owners, and they are in Texas.
And one of the interesting things that happens is as soon as the crash takes place, the government goes to the Fosters and says, We're going to buy that ranch from you.
Name your price.
And there's a weird thing that goes on there where when the crash happens, the Foster, Sherwood Foster, goes up and meets with the government.
And according to his family, he comes back a changed man.
In what way?
Well, it's interesting, and I'll read some of the descriptions, but one, he seems very shaken up.
And two, as if his faith was shaken.
And two, he will not communicate in any way, shape, or form about it.
Although it comes out through that family a little bit later.
I'm going to read some of that here.
So, again, the owners of the ranch were twin brothers Henry Sherwood Foster and Jasper Foster.
The Foster family had substantial land holdings throughout the states of New Mexico and Texas, including Midland and Kent, Texas.
One other thing to mention here, which is.
Apparently, the government, not being able originally to get this from them, demands it and says, Don't worry about it.
You're going to be fine.
We're going to give you incredible mineral rights.
Now, I've heard several stories about this.
One of the stories is that they offer them a large amount of money, they don't take it on their own kind of grounds.
And then the next thing is that they offer them twice that amount of money, and then they also offer them a gold mine.
Later, it seems like that story kicks back into mineral rights.
And since they were in oil, maybe this is how they became so big in oil.
And then they become really a bigger part of big Texas oil.
And when we think of big Texas oil, of course, we get a lot of crossover into Kennedy territory in terms of the assassination.
So, in any case, it's pretty clear based on the family statements and historical statements about the Fosters that their net worth goes through the roof.
After the Roswell crash, because the government wanted to either own the ranch or they wanted to be the ones who were managing who was owning it.
Often overlooked is that the Fosters, as owners of the ranch, must have had a major role in the crash saga.
So there's a section here, there's a couple of books.
One is Witness to Roswell, it's kind of the classic book on all of this.
And that is by Tom Carey and Don Schmidt.
You've seen them on all the programs.
They've been around for a while.
Don Schmidt is a legend.
So I think that when they do the conferences and all that, that's like the major tier that they go back to.
And they became responsible for the kind of traditional ET explanation for the Roswell Ranch.
And they've gone in and kind of lived the life of researching this and the television specials and all the rest of it.
So we're fortunate to have.
Their insights.
There's a couple of key things in here that I think are crucial.
And so I'll go back and forth between what they have here and in the book.
All right, so one of Mac's sons, Paul Brazil, avoided discussion.
You have Bill Brazil, he did come out and talk, another Mac's son, about what was taking place.
Paul Brazil avoided discussion with Roswell researchers throughout his life, but in discussions with investigators Carrie and Schmidt, Paul's nephew related that.
Paul had arrived first to the ranch to take over affairs during their father's absence as Mac was being interrogated by the Air Force.
Property belonging to the Fosters was transgressed by the military.
So, this is interesting what takes place immediately is, you know, Mac originally talks to Marcel and then he decides, you know, Marcel's going back and, you know, he's going to go through all the material and get back.
But instead, what happens is, Mac himself goes into Roswell and decides he's going to deal with the sheriff.
The sheriff sends him to the military and they just hold him for five days, interrogate him, keep asking the same questions.
And they shake him up too, so much so that when he first comes in, he gives an interview to a radio station and says, Yeah, I have all this crash stuff on my land.
You know, it's one of the flying saucers that we've been hearing about, and this is what's going on.
And then he comes in to give the interview, you know, and again, This time, there are MPs and stuff who tell him to say, it was a weather balloon.
I'm just a stupid rancher, that kind of thing.
So, here, what's interesting is we have Brazil talking.
And so, there was this whole thing about what happened immediately during the crash: Brazil, as soon as he finds the wreckage after the fact of the crash the next day, He then calls the Fosters, and Sherwood Foster comes up into the middle of that situation.
They hold his rancher for five days interrogating him.
So, a lot of things need to be arranged there.
The daughter of J.B. Foster was located by author Tom Carey.
His discussion with the foster daughter, Joanne Purdy, is reported in the newly revised book, Witness Sir Oswell, which is this book.
So, that's where this part of the story comes from.
Joanne Purdy agrees that something very serious and great concern had happened to the family ranch.
She said, My dad knew it was a flying saucer and never changed his story.
And just as the army had warned and threatened Mac Brazil, they did the same to him.
This is important because the military now is intimidating Foster.
Foster, again, is coming out of this Christian community group, but it's a major kind of power block there.
And as I said, he has all these holdings in oil and other things.
And what they end up doing is kind of a face off there, and they end up bribing him with mineral rights, and then they become.
Incredibly wealthy as a result.
Joanna countered Mac Brazel many times after the crash.
He would say nothing to her about the event other than that it was not a weather balloon.
She maintains that Mac had called her father after the crash to tell him what had happened and the military had overrun the property.
She'd observed how her father's attitude and demeanor had changed so drastically after the crash.
She told the researchers whatever he saw or heard for himself, he did not want to talk about it after he returned home.
She believes that based on what she has gathered in bits and pieces over the years that followed, the debris that had fallen on the family ranch was not from Earth.
It was material that was entirely unknown.
She's suspicious about Mac's death, too.
And due to specific comments made to her by her dad, she said, I have absolutely no doubt that he believed the threats and that they meant business.
So this is interesting because Foster, when he goes up there, it's before the military has dominated the scene.
So he has a chance to go up there and check out some of the wreckage himself.
And he's in the middle of this situation of seeing this incredible crash on his ranch.
And here he is, this very hardcore Christian, in the middle of all this.
Cody Derrick, a foster great grandson, has come forward to state that his family knew that it was an extraterrestrial craft that crashed on the ranch.
In approximately 2000, after a TV show on Roswell aired, Cody questioned his grandfather, who was Sherwood Foster's son.
Whom he called Papa about the event.
Papa acted very uncharacteristic and evasive with his grandson when questioned, so Cody dropped the matter, sensing it was upsetting.
In 2005, when he passed away, when Papa passed away, Cody asked his uncle about the nature of the crash.
Cody's uncle confirmed that he remembered the crash well, he was 17 at the time.
When asked by Cody point blank if it was a UFO, his uncle replied, Those boys up there told me they were certain, without a doubt, it was a flying saucer.
When Cody asked if there were any pilots of the craft bodies found within the wreckage, his uncle became disturbed.
I don't know.
I can't remember.
Then he said sternly to his nephew that that was all he knew about that and he never wanted to talk about it again.
Deep Connections to Boone00:02:11
Now, so they were sworn to secrecy, that family, through and through.
And one of the interesting things I want to put on the record here is I want you to keep the Foster piece in mind as we go into.
The JFK aspect with Deputy Sheriff Boone, who's the first person to go into the Texas School Book Depository with Roger Craig, and he sees the rifle.
He's the one who discovers the rifle and identifies it, by the way, as a Mauser, as does Craig.
But it's going to be very important to note that our friend Boone, in the heart of all this, has this direct connection with Foster and direct connection with the Roswell incident that opens up a lot of doors for us, and that's where we're going to go next.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
Deep, deep tonight into the UFO file around Roswell and the JFK assassination and how these deep events are echoing through what we're seeing here with these kind of faux disclosure efforts going on.
We'll be taking your questions here in about a half hour, no, about 20 minutes from now.
And then before we go any further, what do you got?
George Ivankovich says, My grandma told me Roswell was real.
My grandfather was stationed there around that time.
We were watching TV and sightings came on in the mid 90s talking about it.
And she just Blurted it out.
I will never forget that.
Grandma just said they're lying, and he told her never to say anything.
That's amazing.
You know what's weird is that Fonzie produced sightings.
All right, you have the 70s, you know, Happy Days star, and in the 90s he's doing a UFO thing.
I find that very strange.
That's a very interesting story, indeed.
All right, this is what we're going to do.
We're going to jump directly now into the Kennedy assassination connection and all of its mind blowing implications.
Watch closely for the deep connection with Boone here.
All right.
Vernon, Helena, and Dahl00:07:37
And remember that, oddly enough, just for timing's sake, that Brazil dies of a heart attack just a few weeks before the Kennedy assassination.
And the reason that's significant, I think, is that he wasn't very old.
You know, he was maybe about 60 years old and he didn't have any health problems.
And you might say, well, what does Brazil have to do with the JFK assassination?
I want to show you some very unusual pieces that come together here.
So just keep it in mind.
And by the way, as it turned out when we were talking about Brazil's son, and there's a whole chapter on him in a different book called Children of Roswell.
But his son, Vernon, I probably will actually do this before we hop into this part.
Died under mysterious circumstances.
So it's Vernon Brazil.
And so at this point, like I said, you know, they go off to Alaska.
And this is the 1950s.
And the son, you know, who's barely of age now, he's 19 years old, says, I don't want to go to Alaska, you know.
And he disappears.
Now, What they say here, I'll just go through a little bit of it because the case gets very unusual.
Has anyone seen Vernon?
Concerned calls circulated throughout Grants and eventually to the rest of the relations in Capitan, New Mexico.
His mother and father were out of reach in Alaska for the time being, so why worry them?
One member of the family went so far as to suggest he hitched a ride with some trucker and was on his way to Fairbanks, Alaska, where his parents had recently moved at that very moment.
But as the days passed and the state police in Grants, were called in to investigate the missing person report, matters became more disconcerting.
First, his abandoned car was just found out the city and no indication of foul play or clues as to what became of him.
Next, the situation became more worrisome as his lady friend had questioned and, like all the others, hadn't seen or heard from Vernon for days.
After a while, he's assumed dead.
Now, it's very unusual to note that in another major case around the UFO file, the Maury Island case, The principal witness, his son disappears for three months and ends up in Utah in this very unusual place, like no memory, and he's washing dishes.
And he's 15 years old.
And then he gets returned to our friend, I'm trying to think of the guy's name in the Maury Island case, but he gets returned to him, Harold Dahl.
He gets returned to Dahl, and Dahl, the men in black, come to Dahl and say, Now you just have to say the whole thing was a hoax about.
What happened at Maury Island, and we'll leave you alone.
And that's what he does.
So the children get used there.
That is a pretty severe threat.
Oh, no pressure.
Like they didn't need to go three months missing child.
They didn't have to go that far.
Yeah.
No, it's incredible.
What I feel there's the same pattern going on here with the Brazzle thing because he just disappears.
He drops out.
Now, years and years later, I'm talking 2002, he's been dead now for five decades.
This woman comes to the family and says, I lived with your son long after he was assumed dead, and he had a totally different name.
He came to Helena, Montana, and he lived there for a while.
We had these children, and then he committed suicide.
And she talked about him being a troubled personality and all this stuff, and how he wouldn't talk about his past and all the rest of it.
So, what's odd if you do the research on that and Dial it back a little bit, you're going to find that Jesse Marcel Jr. Ends up moving to Helena, Montana.
So there you have Jesse Marcel Jr., the son of the intelligence officer, and then the son of the rancher.
And the rancher is hiding out, basically, under this assumed name and under some kind of weird pressure where he ultimately folds.
The crisscross there in Helena, Montana is very unusual because when you had all of the unusual Chinese balloon action things going on, all of the reports about UFO activity were.
Coming right out of Helena, Montana.
So, you know, stay tuned about Helena, Montana.
But I wanted to put that Vernon part on the record before we get into the assassination piece.
So we understand there's kind of deep state treachery involved here.
And I think that Vernon was kind of on the run in that sense because he had been, again, one of the witnesses to the wreckage.
And This whole thing about moving Brazil up to Alaska was weird.
And because of the missing, you know, son part, they came back to New Mexico and then Mac dies.
So it's, you know, it's a strange sequence of events.
Right after that is the Kennedy assassination.
Everyone assumes, including Brazil and his wife, that Vernon is dead.
But according to this woman in Helena, Montana, he wasn't.
And it proved out that this is where he went and lived for, you know, another couple of decades before finally.
Having this crisis and dying by his own hand.
Now, keep that in mind as we move into the next section.
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Okay, so it's all there.
What do you got?
DA says the tangled web.
I like that.
That's exactly the way to put it.
I got to admit that just hearing about the, you haven't even gotten to the really juicy stuff yet, but just these little oddities give me the creeps.
Oh, yeah.
There's something you just, it doesn't feel right.
The Rifle Found in Fritz's Store00:15:32
No.
No, the minute you start to go just, You know, a little deeper into the story, everything starts to play weird.
And the Fosters become so crucial to the story, oddly enough.
That's going to be an interesting thing.
Let's go to Deputy Sheriff Boone.
Okay.
Our very unusual 24 year old caught in the middle of this activity.
You know, oddly enough, Miss Olivia, he hasn't even been a policeman very long.
How long has he been a policeman?
Well, it's interesting because we remember Roscoe White.
He came on the force just a few weeks before the Kennedy assassination.
And of course, we get into different characters around Robert Kennedy's assassination.
Today's the anniversary, as I mentioned.
The security guard, Fane Eugene Caesar, who's right behind him and who is widely assumed now to have been the assassin, not Sirhan Sirhan, well, he only got the job three days before security guard, and he was coming from Lockheed Skunk Works.
Of course, Ben Rich, who ran Lockheed Skunk Works, said famously, We've developed.
The technology to send ET home.
And Skunk Works was known, you know, the key people were there for that UFO development project.
And there again, we had a very young 20 something in Thane Eugene Caesar who just happened to bag this very posh assignment there at Lockheed Skunk Works, but was moonlighting as a security guard at the Ambassador Hotel.
That, you know, That is another piece there.
And of course, we tackled that in our UFO File Assassins documentary.
I highly recommend that whole piece.
Okay.
Tell you a few interesting things.
Actually, that documentary comes up a couple of times tonight.
So, in the middle of the presidential motorcade in Texas, JFK is on his way to meet Lloyd Berkner, who's a physicist who ran the Robertson UFO panel.
And they're about to give a speech where the flag that flew over the White House is being flown in by helicopter so Kennedy can hand it to Berkner.
It's a major ceremony.
There's a whole thing about the final speech.
We did a documentary on it.
But this is the setup.
Kennedy never makes it to the trademark.
So as he's going by the Texas School Book Depository, Main Street, Houston Street, Elm Street, when they take that turn, that's when shots started to be heard.
And people here, and we can see in the Zapruder film shots from the front.
But nonetheless, everything gets attributed to the Texas School Book Depository where they've placed Lee Harvey Oswald, Patsy, with all of his incredible intel connections for 24.
Again, they're using a lot of young people in the middle of all this.
And what we have there is one of the cops who's on the scene, Johnny on the spot, is our friend, and Eugene Boone.
Now, I'm going to read his original statement that he gives about what happened.
He is a 24 year old policeman who was working for an advertising agency previous to being a policeman.
And one of his main clients at that agency was Jack Ruby.
And here is Gene Boone as deputy sheriff.
Now, very interestingly, he's the first man inside with Roger Craig.
And I have the audio from my documentary on that.
I'm going to play it.
But here's one of the shots when they're giving the official testimony with Buddy Walters and others.
Saying all the shots came from the depository, and they have Boone back there as the 24 year old cop giving his witness statement, backing up the whole idea of a lone gunman there shooting out of the Texas School Book Depository.
Interestingly enough, I will say this about Boone to the Warren Commission, he said, I cannot identify that as the rifle that I found in the Texas School Book Depository.
That's because.
The rifle that he found in the depository, according to his own testimony and according to Craig's testimony and according to Seymour Weitzman's testimony, those are the three people on the scene, they all ascribe it to a 7.65 German Mauser rifle, not an Italian Mammoth or Carcano.
Now, a few interesting things we should see about his original comments.
And originally, you know, one of the things I wanted to float out there immediately is that he's acquainted with Ruby and friends.
He's identified as friends with Ruby.
And then he gets the job on the police force from the ad agency.
This seems kind of an unusual step to me, somehow.
And I think that could have been arranged by Ruby, who was in so, so tight with the police, as we know.
Okay.
County of Dallas Sheriff's Department.
And this is Deputy Sheriff.
Boom.
Mr. Decker, Mr. Sheriff, I was assisting in the search on the sixth floor of the Dallas County Book Depository at Elm Street and Houston Street.
Proceeding from the east side of the building, Officer Whiteman of the Dallas Police Department and I were together and we approached the northwest corner of the building.
I saw the rifle partially hidden behind a row of books with two other boxes of books against the rifle.
The rifle appeared to be a 7.65 Mauser.
With a telescopic sight on the rifle, Captain Fritz was called to the scene, and also someone from the ID department took pictures.
They were taken, and Captain Fritz picked up the rifle.
I first saw the rifle at 1 22 p.m.
Now, it's very interesting because the president's assassinated at 12 30.
Oswald is grabbed at the theater sometime around 107, and here they have at 1 22 the rifle.
They're going to be able to do all this.
The only problem is the rifle that they grabbed.
Is a Mauser, and the Mauser isn't in Oswald's background.
It's not the one that he ordered under an assumed name.
That's an Italian rifle somewhere along the line that got scrambled.
Okay, and that's his actual original typewritten letter, and it's on record.
Anyone could check it out at any time.
Later in the 1980s, of course, they did the trial of Lee Oswald, where they tried the whole thing on television, and they had people like Vincent Bugliosi prosecuting for the state, and he's the one who set up the whole.
You know, obfuscation around the intelligence part of the Manson murders and all the rest.
That's what he was known for.
Boone, again, looks at the rifle and he's looking at the actual Carcano rifle.
And they ask him point blank, you know, what did you identify this as?
You know, and he said, I identified it as a Mauser.
Now, clearly the rifle that they found was a Mauser, and this is part of the problem with the whole setup.
So when we get into things like the Luna panel and this whole thing that they're doing, What they should go to the heart of is the rifle that was discovered first off, right off the bat.
And so let's just say this on the kind of superficial, straight ahead side.
You know, Boone goes through his entire life, and he is the guy who found the rifle there.
And he has a few more things to say in his official statement.
He says So I found the rifle three feet from the east wall of the stairwell and behind a row of books.
The way the rifle is sitting, anyone could pick it up.
I mean, it's not hidden at all.
I saw the rifle, what appeared to be a 7.65 millimeter Mauser with a telescopic sight.
The rifle had what appeared to be a brownish black stock and blue steel metal parts.
Captain Fritz, Dallas Police Department, was called to this location along with the ID man.
They took charge of the rifle.
I found the rifle.
It was 122 by my watch.
I then returned to the station.
So all these statements are on record, and he, you know, Would stick to his story and go along over the years with this.
Now, what I want to note is he again has this career where he's hanging in there, you know, he becomes a cop, then he gets into this assignment, and then he finds this very extraordinary rifle.
Now, interestingly enough, he is a member of this Church of Christ that I was talking about that our friend.
The Foster Ranch people are members of.
By the way, I want to say before I even get into that that here's a picture of Seymour Weitzman who identified the rifle as well as a Mauser.
And later he was forced to change his testimony and say he was wrong, even though he owned a gun store.
I'm going to play the audio from Craig, who goes through exactly how they did this, and then we're going to show exactly how this connects up from Boone directly.
Back to the Roswell incident.
Believe it or not, there's a huge crisscross there in the middle.
How are we doing out there?
Doing great.
I'm really looking forward to this.
All right.
So I'm going to play this clip.
This is from my documentary, Agent Oswald, the CIA Patsy.
I put that out years ago, but it's got this incredible testimony by Roger Craig in it.
So here we're going to listen now.
Let's see if I can do this properly.
Okay.
Hopefully, this is at the right volume and the right setting for you.
Let's go.
By the uh had a strap on.
He held it up by the strap and asked if anyone knew what kind of rifle it was.
Well, by this time deputy constable Seymour Weizmann had joined us and uh Weizmann was a uh gun buff.
He had a sporting goods store at one time.
He was very good with weapons and he said it looked like a Mauser.
And he walked over to Fritz.
Captain Fritz was holding the rifle up in the air.
And I was standing next to Weizmann, who was standing next to Fritz.
And we weren't any more than six or eight inches from the rifle.
And stamped right on the barrel of the rifle was 7.65 Mauser.
And that's when Weizmann said it is a Mauser and pointed to the 7.65 Mauser stamp on the barrel.
Okay, so the case as we know it against Oswald and everything else goes out the window with those three witnesses Boone, Weitzman, and Craig.
Now, Craig sticks to his story.
Boone goes back, Weitzman goes back.
They're both intimidated.
And so what happens is Craig gets thrown off the force.
He has attempts on his life.
He has a car accident.
A number of things happen.
And then finally, he's found dead of a shotgun blast to his chest with a rifle.
Obviously, he was just taken out.
There he is removed from the scene from telling the truth about it.
Now, what they found there in the Texas school book depository was not a Carcano.
They placed that, somebody placed that there.
The police found the Mauser.
That's all there is to it.
Now, when you have a case like you're pressing a legal case, if you came in and said the first three cops came in and identified the rifle, and then you have the main guy in the heart of the whole thing saying it was stamped on the barrel of the rifle, how are you going to get around that?
So you have to eliminate the witness in that case.
That's what they did.
But they didn't eliminate Boone because he did go back on his statement and he said, no, I guess I misidentified it.
All right, it's hard to misidentify something that has the stamp on the barrel, isn't it?
So that doesn't add up very well.
Well, interestingly enough, it turns out that Boone didn't really want to be a cop anyway.
You know what he really wanted to do?
He wanted to work for Sherwood Foster, and he wanted to work for Sherwood Foster ranches, and he wanted to run the entire Sherwood Foster broken homes system.
And Foster, you know, they have these famous Foster homes, and they rebuild the lives of all these people, as I said.
And what happens to Boone?
Boone becomes the CEO, the top man.
For the fosters of their entire operation of foster homes.
Well, you're calling them foster homes.
They're orphanages, right?
Yes, they are.
I'm saying it, yeah, I'm sorry.
He's Foster.
He is Foster.
That's his last name, is Foster.
But the homes are these incredible rebuilding of lives, and they really have had amazing success stories and things and all the rest.
The point and the key here is the unusual thing that we really need to.
Wrap our heads around is the first man into the depository eventually ends up being the CEO of Foster's company.
And Foster in Texas, who's been bribed off by the authorities because a UFO crashed on his ranch.
And this crisscross now gets even stranger as we progress down the road.
But keep in mind that Boone, again, is placed in an unusual position.
And he may not be aware of what they're doing with him way, way back here, by the way.
But putting him as the first man to find the rifle is a very key thing.
And then it seems like his reward is becoming the CEO for Foster.
Now, the question again this crisscross between Boone and Foster and the UFO file.
Let's go a little bit deeper, shall we?
Now, one thing I want to say about.
The whistleblower that I spoke with in relation to this, Dorothy, who will be coming on the program, and I will be hiding her identity for her to be able to tell us this part.
But her story is remarkable.
Here's the interesting thing I found in the heart of her story part of it is that she grew up with Boone because she grew up in the foster homes.
Oswald's UFO Crash Links00:12:25
And they run a series of different homes.
And so she knew him as the CEO growing up.
That's one.
Two, she recalled very specifically on two different occasions alien abduction stories at the Foster homes.
Now, that takes the Foster Roswell story completely over to the Foster.
So, we have the Foster Ranch, where you have this incredible UFO crash, and then we have an alien abduction experience at the Foster Homes.
While the person who's running it is the first guy into the Texas School Book Depository at 24 years old, a sheriff's deputy who finds the Oswald, the rifle that basically hangs Oswald in the public imagination.
So the crisscross of these events right off the bat can't be denied.
And when we go deeper now on the Foster Boone piece, it's going to open things up for us.
And we're going to really realize just how reignited the whole Roswell situation is.
Yes.
What do you got?
Rehoboth Farm says Billy Solestes, born in Clyde, Texas, about 20 minutes from Abilene, he was also Church of Christ.
Oh, yeah, Billy Sol.
Yes.
Well, I will say this that in that stretch of Texas, the Church of Christ runs deep.
And, you know, I understand in relation to these religious groups, when we look at them, We're not looking at them with an eye to accuse them of anything, but it is through the network of the people and the different connections that they have that it becomes a kind of a template or a tapestry, rather, for us to look at these things with.
And some of the people who are associated are quite fascinating, including those with physics backgrounds.
And I'm going to get into those as we move along here tonight, going deep into the Roswell UFO case, the JFK UFO file.
Boone, Marcel.
Craig, the way that this crisscrosses, we can feel something just explosive on the surface.
And again, we're all going back to aerospace because what was it that really influenced the lives of the Fosters?
It was the crash on their ranch where they became incredibly wealthy because the government said, we need that ranch.
And by the way, the Foster Ranch instantly became a class of ranch.
I found this very interesting where you could not grow anything on it, you could not use the soil.
For anything, it was under the same type of designation as something with extreme toxic exposure.
So you can't do anything on that ranch.
I found out some other unusual characters who tried to purchase that ranch, by the way, and we'll get into those as we go along here tonight.
In X Series 199, Roswell reignited the bombshell JFK UFO file connection.
And so we've gone long here, actually.
We're going to be taking your questions here shortly.
I'm just going to rifle in a little bit more about the piece around JFK and then get to an explosive witness, Vincent, and we'll roll that into your questions.
How's that?
Sounds good.
What do you got?
Joseph Tugas says So much of the cover up is to conceal the existence of Nazi international.
Bardo says the late Jim Mars pointed out the 7.65 caliber was never issued to the German military, it was only manufactured as a carbine and licensed to Argentina.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it's interesting.
I know that Dr. Farrell really places a lot of importance around the Argentinian designation of that rifle as messaging, as steganography.
And I agree wholeheartedly on that.
And you find a lot of that piece involved here because, of course, we have the paperclip side heavily represented at NASA.
So, the space program crisscrossing directly in the middle of all this, and the CIA performing the executive action.
That's quite a crisscross.
And by the way, you know, when I mention this thing about Nazis and the space program, sometimes people will say to me, well, you know, America is this Nazi country or whatever.
No, you have to understand how that group operates, you know, and also the fact that the Soviets at the time got all of these Nazi scientists as well and embedded them.
I mean, I think we got better scientists by design.
But, you know, those scientists were going to go somewhere, they were going to be the brain trust.
The problem really was that their martial philosophy got embedded with it.
That's why you have one of the key paperclip people, Walter Dornberger, in the heart of the JFK assassination, because that is where Lee Harvey Oswald is staying at Michael Payne's residence.
And Michael Payne is the protege of Dornberger at Bell Aerospace.
It's aerospace again, everywhere you look in the case.
And that's what some of the key people who investigated it, including Jim Garrison, the only DA who brought a murder case in the Kennedy trial, He's talking to the editor of Rampert's magazine.
I have that guy's autobiography, and he talks about this.
Garrison saying, We had it all wrong.
We thought it was Texas oil men behind this, but it is the aerospace corridor of Intel in the military industrial complex that did it.
And that was his conclusion.
And then you take all the research that I've done over the years around the aerospace aspect.
Look, JFK, his.
Main legacy is the space program.
Hardcore.
I mean, peace, yes, but peace in space too.
And as we think about throwing those treaties out and weaponizing space, and we did the whole episode in the Golden Dome last week, Kennedy's message and the forces, the struggle in the background going on, even when you see Musk going over the edge with all that stuff, it's all space, isn't it?
After all, keep that in mind.
Let me just throw this in there.
Yeah.
JD says foster kids were Nazi experimental subjects.
Well, this is the interesting thing because, on the record, for example, the kids that went through the foster homes were, you know, they were rehabilitating their lives, they were placing them with good families, they were doing this whole thing and giving them a Christian ethic.
That is the fundamental story of the fosters.
Now, what happened in some individual cases, I think, is interesting.
What fascinates me is.
Is not so much to find the Fosters in any kind of villain shape, but to say somebody, something is operating there.
And that's why you get cases there of alien abduction.
So the idea that they are running this ranch in New Mexico, a major UFO crash takes place, their lives are uprooted, they become incredibly expansive, they open more of these homes, and then people start having alien encounters while the guy who went into the Texas School Book Depository.
As the first cop to find the weapon that takes Leo Oswald into the guilty pile in the public eye.
And he's the CEO.
It's too much deep state activity to ignore.
And it's in a locale.
It's Texas.
It's New Mexico.
You're in a region there.
And when we get to the next part about Vincent, Major Vincent in the heart of all this, Vincent then is going to become very crucial because he ties.
Texas, D.C., and Roswell all together with his testimony.
That's why it's crucial.
That's where we're going next.
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A couple of quick things on Oswald, of course.
Oswald set up as the Patsy.
He's still the Patsy in history because they haven't changed the verdict on him in history.
Even though anyone who's researched the case knows that he wasn't even on the sixth floor.
So Oswald was there to take the fall.
Again, a young man, 24 years old, who they had placed previously in the Soviet Union, had him bring back a Russian wife here.
And really, you know, the way that he was set up, even with the gun at the time, it's very interesting because, you know, people who follow this program know I'm very fond of the work of Professor Peter Dale Scott.
And one of the things that he said about Oswald is that.
He felt that the work that Oswald did when he came back from Russia qualified him as an industrial spy, including his work at Jagger Childs Stovall, the very secretive NPIC group that was studying UFO films, films of the Cuban Missile Crisis, all this stuff.
And you need a very high security clearance to work there, which Oswald had.
So the idea of him as an industrial spy, the task they gave him was.
Hey, we want to see how you can order weapons through the mail and track this whole process.
So, we want you to adopt an alias, Alec Heidel, get a P.O. box and order some weapons through the mail.
And when he does that, then later on they can say, aha, here's the guy with the weapon.
He ordered it to a phony P.O. box with an alias, and he's our guy.
What's interesting is speaking of aerospace, Garrison saw the connection of aerospace with Oswald because.
Garrison went and talked to the people who were supposed to work with him when he was in New Orleans during the summer before the assassination at Riley Coffee Company.
And he found none of them were still working there and that they had all gone on to jobs in aerospace, mostly at NASA.
And then when he got in touch with two of them, he found out that Oswald had been bragging that he was going to work for NASA.
That's where he was headed next.
Instead, detour Texas School Book Depository.
So, you know.
These things, they link in history.
They close in, as it were.
And Garrison pressed the case.
When everyone really didn't want to touch this case, he really pushed it hard in the public eye.
And let's face it, I mean, how many years ahead of his time was he?
60 years.
At least he got the JFK movie made about him.
We can say that for Garrison.
He got that much public recognition.
But where he was going with the case, and even the fact of the.
These influences that he was knocking directly into, like Guy Bannister, who after all ran the UFO file for the FBI, and he finds him running Oswald in the summer before the assassination.
Those are the things that a D class committee could really unearth and study.
Instead of the very, very kind of flimsy approach that they've taken, you could get totally deep, hardcore disclosure using these facts.
And the things that we've laid out for you tonight, just for starters, are easy to verify.
And they are substantiated with the government's own documents in many cases.
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This is interesting.
That Church of Christ, this is their building in Abilene.
And I found it particularly interesting.
It's supposed to artistically dramatize Jacob's Ladder, but it's got a lot of like Stonehenge to me.
That's what it's looking like.
And isn't that extraordinary?
Where is that?
That is in Abilene, Texas, and it's the Church of Christ.
It doesn't have a good building there.
Well, it's interesting.
I will say that.
I think that there's more to what's going on with that group.
And I will say that, you know, the Fosters, with their deep religious beliefs, if they showed them something like this, I think that they would have had all kinds of influence with their future activities.
And if they said, look, we're going to give you.
Oil rights and gold mines, or whatever, maybe they demanded something in return.
It's possible.
But is that why there were cases of alien abduction there?
This becomes the interesting thing.
This is the interesting factoid, the thing that floats to us, which is that this took place there.
Now, there's another possibility, which doesn't have anything to do with the Fosters being culpable for this alien activity, which is just that.
Um, the beings you know, the same ones somehow that were associated with crashing at his ranch become involved, invested around the government piece, and they become involved and invested around the Fosters.
That's why you have Brazzle taking off and saying, I'm getting out of here, going to Alaska, and the sun disappearing, and all of these different pieces.
There's some deep, deep, deep story in the heart of this, and um, the fact that this may have become a target for.
An off world civilization that had crashed here, that somehow the Fosters got wrapped up in that is very intriguing.
And I'll tell you, it's through the abduction stories that I started to realize, because I was looking at it a little bit differently until we got to the abduction stories.
I was thinking Foster had some kind of relationship, because Roswell already was engaged in, you know, through Goddard and others, was already engaged in.
Say exotic technology experiments.
And I was thinking, maybe it's not an accident that it crashed on Foster's ranch.
Maybe he made the ranch available for those types of flyovers.
But then when we got to the abduction experience later and then Boone's connection with the Fosters, it started to look to me like there's somebody moving these pieces together.
And in fact, the Roswell story, the deeper that you look at it, looks more and more like an off port, like the genuine.
Genuine article of an off world crash.
And I think there are explanations here, and I'm going to get to one of them from Colonel Corso about how that works.
But in any case, we know we're in deep territory.
Highly Secretive Pilot Procedures00:15:24
Okay, Vincent Corso and your questions.
So I'm going to do the Vincent part and roll your questions into it.
Let's see.
So I guess the key thing.
That we need to know about Vincent is that he was somebody who had a great background in the Air Force and somebody who tried to share his very unusual story with JFK assassination research boards throughout the years, like the 1990s, long after he had retired, and they didn't want to deal with it at all because of the powerful implications of what was going on there.
So this is.
Vincent getting his accommodation of merit from the Air Force and an extraordinary background that he has.
I'm going to read a couple of the accolades that he has, but this one, again, he's getting more of these accolades for his years of service.
And what happens to him is quite fascinating.
And he tells the story later in life.
And basically, it works like this that he goes to Andrews Air Force Base the day before the assassination, and he is talking there and with a very important military figure.
The whole thing is about whether or not he's getting promoted, and there are promotions to be had in the departments he's working in.
Now, I think his actual title there was technical sergeant.
So, what he says to him is, look, you know, oh, by the way, interestingly enough, he's working at NORAD at this point.
And he's in Colorado Springs, and it's before NORAD moves to, you know, Cheyenne Mountain and all the rest.
But they're hardcore, and this is during the Kennedy era, of course.
It's very interesting to note that after Kennedy is assassinating, NORAD moves.
This is also, I think, very significant.
Now, what happens in the case of Vincent is fascinating because.
He hears this general in the office on the phone saying, Kennedy shouldn't be in Dallas.
There's so many threats against him and all the rest of it.
And he's in D.C. while this is happening.
And he's wondering, why are they even letting him there after all these threats?
And he's overhearing this stuff.
So then he has this back and forth, and they say, You know what?
Go back to Colorado Springs.
We're going to get back to you about that promotion.
Don't worry about it.
You've got all these merits.
You're a great guy.
Hang in there.
And this kind of thing.
And he says, Well, You know, how do you want me to get back?
You know, like, and they say, well, there are all these over there at the airport, you know, go to this hangar, and there's always transport planes there for our Air Force officers.
One of those will take you back.
So he goes there, and there aren't any.
And he's like, well, this is weird.
And then he sees on the runway there a C 54 come in.
And he thought it was unusual because it didn't have any of the USA insignias, didn't have anything.
And it had the weird look of a globe as an egg and then two grids through it.
This is the way that he describes it.
Now, Vincent, in telling the story later, I'm going to actually read a couple of things that he says.
But his entire testimony boils down to this, which is he gets on that plane and.
The pilot and co pilot get on there.
They don't say anything to him.
They're completely silent.
And then the plane takes off, and they say, You know, we're headed for Denver.
Everything's hunky dory.
And then at 12 29, they say the president has been assassinated.
There's a weird thing there about 12 29, because the assassination happens at 12 30, but anyway, it's close enough.
And they say, We're redirecting.
And they take this really heavy duty midair turn.
And then He's looking out and he sees that they're heading into Dallas.
And they land over by the Trinity River at what looks like a construction site.
And the landing isn't all that smooth.
And he's like, oh, this landing strip must be under construction.
And, you know, I'm probably lucky to escape with my life on this trip.
So he's sitting there.
And then two individuals get on the plane.
One of the individuals is a Cuban who's six foot tall and 195 pounds.
And he's in these weird construction.
Then the other person that gets on is someone he will recognize later as Lee Harvey Oswald in the same coveralls.
And they are getting out of a construction vehicle that's a yellow construction vehicle and they walk up to the plane, a jeep, yes.
And they walk up to the plane and they come along and they look at him.
They don't say anything.
They go to the front, they sit down, there's no discussion.
And then the plane takes off.
And he's sitting there and he's like, it's kind of weird.
These guys haven't said anything.
The pilot's not saying anything.
And he just found the whole setup very odd.
As somebody who worked in the Air Force and stuff, this is far, far different procedure.
And what happens is they go and they land at a different airbase.
And then the two figures jump off the plane, they get off and take off.
The Oswald lookalike and this Cuban guy.
And then the pilot gets off and he's the last one on the plane.
He gets out of the plane and he doesn't recognize the place at all.
And he sees a little setup with a light and everything.
He goes in there, there's an MP in there.
And he says, What base am I even at?
I'm going to Denver, Colorado Springs.
And the guy says, You're in Roswell.
You're at the Roswell Air Force Base.
Didn't they tell you that?
And he said, no.
And he said, all the bases locked down.
You can't go anywhere.
You're not going to Denver anywhere.
And he sits there for six hours and he eventually makes it back to Colorado Springs and assumes his duties at NORAD.
And then the whole thing about the JFK assassination hits.
Oswald comes on the screen and he's like, wait a minute.
He says to his wife, that's the exact same guy who was on the plane with me.
So now remember, Vincent is in the Air Force, he's a keen observer.
He doesn't have any psychological issues.
He has a splendid record.
He's sure that this guy who gets on the plane is Oswald, and also that where they let them off is Roswell.
He hasn't worked previously in Roswell, so this whole thing is very unfamiliar to him.
So he feels very uneasy about it.
And then a little while later, he's called back to Washington, D.C., and they say, We want to do some psychological exercises with you.
Do you mind?
You know, we have a project in mind, special project.
And they take him through these unusual psychological exercises to test his honesty and all this other stuff.
And then they say, We have this thing where we really want to put you at a secret base for these secret assignments, and you're going to be working very deeply with us and with CIA.
And he says, Well, I'm not sure I want to do it.
And they keep ramping up the inducements and all the rest of it.
And he takes it on and they put him right in the heart of Area 51.
And I'm going to take you through a little bit of his experience there, and then we're going to go.
We're going to roll into the end of the program, but right now we're going to take it off, Olivia.
I want to make sure that I feel like I missed something.
So, wait, the same guy who was on the plane, the Cuban and the Oswald or the Oswald look alike, that's a possibility, wound up at Area 51?
Yes.
Okay.
That's where he ends up working.
That's my question.
Explain that.
And Vincent is extraordinary in this sense.
What I'm going to do is sort of give you some of the gravity of this.
So, basically, When he lands there, they have grabbed Oswald in the theater.
They haven't charged him with the crime.
They've charged him with shooting Officer Tippett.
By the way, Officer Tippett was a good friend of Sheriff, Deputy Sheriff Boone, as well as Jack Rubin.
So Boone is right in the middle of that nexus of everything that goes down with the assassination.
And so Vincent is, you know, strangely stumbles into this, but he comes from a high level inside of the Air Force.
He's already working with NORAD, highly secretive work.
And apparently, when we look at this, what we can deduce is that when they're looking over the manifests of where they escaped the second Oswald to Roswell, and they say, here's the pilot, here's this guy, and they're like, oh, unknown airman.
Who's that?
What's that?
And they must have figured out that it was this Vincent guy, and they must have figured, huh, he saw the second Oswald.
Let's get him in a secret job where he can't talk about anything.
Let's put him under heavy, heavy secrecy.
And that's exactly what they do.
I'm going to read what he has to say about what his duties are next.
And then we're going to see the JFK crisscross with aerospace in the Roswell incident becomes complete through the testimony, totally separate testimony of Robert Benson.
Okay.
So now this is the book Flight from Dallas, which is all about his life.
And he figures out that they're having him work with the Atomic Energy Commission for the Blackbird SR 71, which was, like the stealth bomber, highly secretive at the period.
The area is now known to the public and to students of spying as Area 51, a base carved out of the desert in the middle of the Nellis Mountain Range, just north of the Atomic Energy Commission's Nevada test site.
Its existence was denied until recently by the U.S. government.
It was established in 1951 to test Douglas's new U 2 spy plane.
After that came the A 12, Blackbird SR 71, Stealth Bomber B 2, Stealth F 117, and the Aurora.
In addition to these reports, and Bob confirms them, that stranger, more advanced air experimental craft were tested there at Area 51.
No surprise there.
That led to countless UFO sightings in the area, which became a mecca for UFO enthusiasts, just as what happened in Roswell, New Mexico.
Vinson worked in the counterintelligence operation, but he had reason to believe.
Another operation, the experimental one, was going on at Roswell, New Mexico, and that those experimental craft were flown to Nevada for flight testing.
Quote, this is Vincent now.
They were testing some of the most far out things you could ever think of.
A lot of them were saucer shaped.
And we did the testing.
These were programs in their very early stages.
And they were pretty well blocked off so that they didn't have to fear others coming in and viewing them.
The UFO sightings were a standing joke at the base.
Whenever there'd be lunch, they'd laugh about the strange stuff and went up the night before.
Today, Bob says he believes people who say they saw flying saucers, but he doesn't believe that those saucers come from outer space.
Now, there's a whole piece here that what's going on with Vincent is they've maneuvered him into this position at Area 51 through the CIA by reviewing the fact that he saw the second Oswald.
Now, what took place there on the plane is the person who they grabbed to be Oswald, the Oswald that we understand, there was someone impersonating him, and that person needed to be whisked away.
Now, the Oswald double, of course, goes deep, deep in the Kennedy assassination.
J. Edgar Hoover warned about an Oswald double looking to buy arms in New Orleans while Oswald was in the Soviet Union.
So Hoover is aware of Oswald in 1960, three years before the assassination.
When we're looking at these details and we start to put them together, we're starting to see the outline of what's going on here.
But to land in the middle of the operation with a credible witness saying that he saw Oswald airlifted out, and you'd have to think in the middle of this situation of assassinating President Kennedy and getting rid of the double, Where would they fly them to?
The fact it would have to be the most super secret operation that they had and the most super secret base.
The base they take them to is the Roswell Air Force Base.
And that is an incredible crisscross with everything that we've learned tonight that shows the overlap of aerospace with the JFK assassination.
And there's Vincent, a living testament to history.
The Luna Committee, Congress.
You know, the D class task force, all that stuff.
Where's your Vincent investigation?
Where's your investigation of Boone, Roswell, the Foster Ranch, and the JFK assassination?
That's where this discussion needs to go.
It needs to go, the JFK examination needs to go directly into the UFO file.
That's what we've shown here on this program and in this episode.
That's where this is going.
And with that, Miss Olivia, you're up.
Oh, my God.
Hepatara 3D says Michael Payne, who hosted Oswald with Wipe Ruth, was the son of Arthur Young, designer of the Bell helicopter.
Aerospace connection?
Oh, yeah.
We've done shows on Arthur Young and pain.
And you see, Young, you have to understand, gets into UFOs later and he gets into consciousness exercises.
As a matter of fact, they came right up here to Boston and started up a foundation that deals with consciousness relating to this because he got the vision of the helicopter in a kind of a strange consciousness state.
Connecting Threads Through Boston00:10:15
You know, Goddard, who I cited earlier, he was.
Working on a cherry tree at the time, and he looked up and he caught this idea of aerospace and going to the moon and the stars and everything in a flash, and then spent the next 40 years obsessed with this.
Of course, Tesla had this very same flash, and that's how he got alternating current.
So it's the flash of consciousness that's the key part that is totally within the human domain.
It's nothing to do with aliens or anything else.
But tonight, specifically, I think.
We saw with everything relating to the Roswell file that you might be dealing there with a genuine off world crash, and that that is what took so much of the attention of the world there in the background.
So the fact that, and remember, they got rid of the case of the Roswell reports for 32 years.
Do you see how deep that cover is?
If you can eliminate a story for 30 years, no one knows anything about it.
But there are little things, you know.
Dorothy Kilgallen was aware that there was a crash back there because she was in that milieu in the background.
And the deeper she's getting to finding things out, you know, we did that whole thing about Kilgallen and Marilyn.
It's funny because, you know, all the stories and all the books and the things they're trying to sell about, oh, you know, Robert Kennedy, you know, who the anniversary of his death is today, he did in Marilyn, you know, and all this stuff.
Look.
The Central Intelligence Agency owns the narratives.
They own the propaganda, they own the tools, they own the Netflix specials and everything else.
They get the people to write the books to do that, or if the people write the books organically, they get behind that because that's their narrative.
It's nothing to do with reality.
And the evidence actually points to the fact that in the case of Meryl Monroe, she may have gone too far in the idea that she was going to spill secrets in relation to this.
And there are CIA documents.
And tapes that were related to that.
There's testimony related to that.
That I can buy a heck of a lot more than, you know, suddenly the Kennedys becoming thugs and bumping people off.
That's not their MO, I'm sorry.
You know, the so called Boston Mafia doesn't operate like that.
You know, the Kennedys were coming from a place of influence, but they didn't use those tactics.
As a matter of fact, this is the assassination part, which was what Kennedy shut down in the CIA.
That's why they were so upset.
And You know, in relation to the DM brothers in Vietnam, Kennedy was so shaken up because he said, don't do it.
And they did it anyway.
So he understood that government, that deep state, they're doing their own thing, you know?
And that's three weeks before they take him out.
So it was a season of assassination.
And I put that on the record that the, you know, when these powers need to move, they will move through the intel agencies.
Yes.
Okay.
So I'm going to group these together.
Stephen Vaughn says, foster homes, illegal aliens, cult religions, secret space program, deep state?
Caritas Tarot says, Churches are tax exempt, can be easy to infiltrate.
Catholics have run baby mills in Alaska for decades, for example.
David Termina says, DJ, I noticed that Boone's foster home activity was called Richie Boys, which is identical to the Camp Richie military intelligence operation that features Catcher in the Rye author J.D. Salinger.
Oh, that's really interesting.
I'm going to tell you something funny since we're on name play there.
Did you catch the first name of the Richie Boys?
It's Ben Richie.
How's that for name dropping?
Yeah, that is very interesting.
Do you want to explain that for people who are interested in that?
Oh, yeah, Ben Rich, who's the CEO of Skunk Works that we mentioned earlier, who's the one who worked on all of the.
He was the one who actually came out and talked and said, you know, we have the technology to send ET home.
And it's fascinating, too.
I want to say this about the church organizations.
You know, what we're looking at here, that church organization may have done a lot of good.
This is the interesting thing.
We're looking at it more on the network side, that it's easy to exploit that network.
And if something attached themselves to the fosters, especially giving them the mineral rights, so they became bigger than ever, I think it's interesting that then they become the target of alien abduction for the children that are there.
So we have, you know, we don't know how widespread that was.
But I have two cases now of that, which I think, considering it's Foster and Boone and all the rest of it, is very, very interesting.
It's like a tag along and is this part of, you know, kind of the Foster payout in a sense that, you know, whatever it is that's going on over here is going to attach itself there.
By the way, the abduction experiences are pretty textbook.
That is, there seems to be a hybrid aspect involved.
So, those things are going to run deep.
When we bring Dorothy out, you know, the story, it's like, hold on to your chair because the story is something else.
Yes.
Right.
The Cryptobit says UFOs are a cover for all manner of depravity, fear, and terror.
Jonathan McIntosh wanted to bring up the Boys from Brazil clone experiments.
Oh, yeah.
Well,.
You know, there's a lot of overlap with the idea of experiments and the alien aspect.
So, what you see from the majority of abduction cases, and you can go through, you know, the work of like Bud Hopkins or John Mack to really see this very well detailed before the field became too contaminated with, you know, some of the things that we're seeing today, the whole melon influence.
You can see very clearly that people are being sized up for something, that they're looking for some type of DNA signature in these people.
And they seem to show up in circumstances where they can get their hands on these people without attracting too much attention.
So they're not going to show up at the Super Bowl and do this.
They want to show up in the Outback, they want to show up in the Allagash.
They want to show up in the White Mountains.
You know, sometimes you do get these hardcore city things, and I think they must be very desperate at that point.
But the abduction thing, the fact that it continues on.
Here's one thing if you go into the information of Betty Hill, if you go, you know, everyone assumes that case that she had with Barney and that whole experience is the whole story.
But she wrote a book, Common Sense Approach to UFOs, where she talks about the ongoing.
Experiences she had with these beings who she considered people, that they were people from somewhere else.
So she kind of saw them like meeting Christopher Columbus or this kind of a thing.
And she could have been under heavy mind control by the aliens, by the government, whatever it would happen to be.
But we need to understand that there's an aspect there in those cases where, for example, she would talk about how they would rearrange things in her house to let her know that they had been there.
I hear those in all of the different abduction stories.
And I've known a lot of abductees over the years.
So the phenomena is real.
The question is, what's the nature of the consciousness behind it?
And what we've done tonight is we've learned a few things about remarkable historical events.
But underneath, there's a connecting thread.
And the connecting thread is serving somebody.
So on the government, it's serving a secrecy around a technology.
And in terms of the visitors, Or, in terms of this other group, they're getting something in the interchange with humanity.
Either they're a scientific group learning about us, or they're harvesting the genetics of humanity for some other purpose.
And you also can imagine that there are groups in the government doing that harvesting as well.
Of course, they're deep, deep in that.
They're trying to interplay cloning with AI and all the rest of it.
You're getting psychos like Elon at the top.
You know, so we're in deep here, and I think figuring out what the nature of the entire abduction aspect is without the CIA shenanigans interfering in our vision, without the intel narratives of, you know, here's this hero, you know, Lou, who's an interrogator who lies in public nonstop, you know, and he's going to give you UFO truth,
and here's another CIA guy, and he's an abductee, don't you know?
You know, that whole thing has to be blown out.
I've been sounding that alarm since these guys showed up, you know.
Yes.
Heading West to South America00:15:44
Lancelot Link, Mengele was operating in South America for years after World War II.
Twins were left in his wake wherever he went.
Yes.
And Ultra Heat Seeker says twins are known to be able to read each other's minds.
Perhaps they are power psychics.
There is the connection to that and the UFOs as well.
Mengele was obsessed with twins.
And he went into different villages to later, post war, when he was living in South America, they found all these different twin groups.
There's all kinds of things about colonies, Mengala colonies.
And when he was doing this kind of early in vitro pregnancy treatments for women there in South America, he was engaged in having them do this.
So he continued his experiments, you know, the good old angel of death there, Mengala.
I. Wanted to give us a little bit of the actual testimony of Vincent and then take your final round of questions.
How does that work?
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
It's X Series 199.
And I have to tell you, this is part of an extended group of episodes because we have some very important information and a whistleblower to bring forward around this.
And that's a shot years later of Boone after he had assumed.
He'd been the CEO of the Foster Homes for many, many years.
And he went back to Dealey Plaza to participate in the whole 40th anniversary, 50th anniversary.
And he stuck to his story about, oh, yeah, I guess I was wrong.
It was a misidentification.
But he would answer questions when asked about his friendship with Ruby and all the rest of it.
And he said, Ruby was a great.
Ad client, you know, we'd go out and party together.
I was an ad salesman, you know, but they were lining him up whether he knew it or not.
Okay, here's Vincent.
We're going to flip back to him, some of his actual testimony.
And I just want to get.
I'm going to skip through this part and just go to where he sees the C 54.
Now, this is interesting.
When he got to Area 51, he recognized the C 54s that they had there.
And he said, that's the plane that I got on when I went from Andrews.
The Oswald double got on because he was confused by the plane.
Because being in the Air Force, he thought he'd seen everything, he had never seen these.
Later, that becomes the Janet Airlines.
So I think his testimony becomes more important.
So this is interesting.
Originally, they say, Oh, you know, we don't have anything going to Denver, and he's waiting in a passenger terminal.
And he says, I heard my name called over the loudspeaker and went back and told him who I was.
And he said, Yes.
You can see the C 54 out there.
And I said, You mean the third one down there?
And he said, Yes.
He said, Go get it.
It's going to Denver, Lowry Air Force Base.
Go get on it.
And I said, Okay.
And I ran, grabbed my bag, took it out, and I got out there.
There was only one person out there at the time, and he was walking around the plane.
And they asked him how old he was at the time.
And he said, I was 33 when all this was taking place.
This was.
So he's going through it, and so they ask him all these questions because this is for the record.
He says, Okay, so you described this plane which was pointed out to you and described the C 54, the one you got on.
What did it look like?
The one I got on was it had a nose wheel, it looked like a cargo plane.
It was four engine, propeller driven.
The only markings I saw on it was the tail, and it looked like an earth the picture of an egg shaped earth, but it just had drawings down through it.
Like white grid marks separating, you know, the latitude and longitude, like that.
It was brown, sort of brownish longitude, meaning the insignia of the plane.
Yes, the color of the earth.
The earth looked rusty and with white marks.
So I got on and I sat down, located a seat, and I moved up over the wings on account of they say that's the safest place.
So I got in about the center of it.
I sat on the right side looking forward out of the plane.
And the guy says, Well, was there anyone who greeted you?
He said, Oh, no, I didn't see anybody.
The door was already open then?
Yes, the door was open, and I just crawled on in.
And a few minutes later, here comes another gentleman up, and they were walking around the plane.
I could see them through the windows.
How many of them?
Two.
So these two were enlisted men or officers?
No, I didn't see any rank.
They had on coveralls, which were the olive drab type coveralls, but I didn't see any rank on them.
Now, it's very interesting to note that all of the You know, Roswell aliens and generally the aliens in these abduction experiences, what do they have?
They all have these coveralls on.
But here it seems to denote this kind of X Protect group, which is they're working with UFO secrecy and you don't have any insignia on.
You just have your coverall.
What I think is fascinating is that on the Invaders, they often wear a coverall.
It's a TV series.
Yeah, from the 60s.
They did that and they seem to be very clued in if you go back and look at that.
Well, they're posing as human.
Yes.
Let's see.
Okay, so he said there was no manifest.
All right, I didn't see a manifest.
There was no type of log.
They got in and started up the engines and were started to taxi down.
We took off, and they say, Were these two officers Caucasian?
He said, Yes, they were both white.
Could you tell me the best you recall the size and stature?
And he describes them.
Nothing fantastic there.
And again, he asks him, Did you see any rank or insignia?
He says, I didn't.
I don't remember seeing any.
All right, so the plane took off from Andrews Air Force Base and headed west, I take it.
Takeoff time was 8 30 to 9 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time.
Yes, we headed west.
And during the flight, did they have any conversation with either of the two men?
No.
Around 12 30, right in there, I guess, one of them came on the loudspeaker in the plane and said, The president's been shot, and so that's all he said.
President Kennedy had been shot.
Was he saying this to you?
I guess he was telling me that.
I don't know.
Over the intercom of the plane?
Yes, right.
What time did the plane leave Andrews Air Force Base?
And he goes through all that.
And then there's a little bit more.
And then he says, All right, when the announcement came over the address system or intercom, whatever it's called, what did the plane do?
He turned 180 degrees south, and because he was headed west, he turned south.
And then somebody says, Pardon me, Mr. Vincent, 180 degrees is a pretty abrupt turn, is it not?
Yes, it is.
He didn't explain why.
Either that's all he said, is what came over the loudspeakers that the president was shot.
Or he gave the time, actually, he said the time, 1229 on the intercom.
Okay, and after the plane made a sharp turn south, then what happened?
And I just want to read to when the dupe gets on.
We proceeded south until we arrived in Dallas, Texas.
We started over the city.
We made a kind of turn to the right, and then we came to a sort of south-southeast direction.
Then all of a sudden, we made a landing on a dirt runway.
I don't think there was any strip down there because there was nothing that I could see that would indicate an airstrip.
So, this was outside the city limits of Dallas.
No, no, this was inside the city limits, right along the Trinity River, which runs through there.
We could have an old Highway 45, which was under construction there.
And then he puts all these things on a map.
So, what he's saying matches up very interestingly, because if they were whisking away this Oswald double, let's say the one they pulled out of the back of the theater when they were getting the real Oswald out the front, the Trinity River is a pretty good location in the middle of all this.
That's why I find Vincent so fascinating with his descriptions.
Now, I'm just going to skip to the Roswell piece and we'll take the rest of your questions.
How does that work?
Sounds good.
All right, fantastic.
All right.
So these guys get on the Oswald double and this Cuban, and the guy says, What were they carrying?
And Vincent says, They weren't carrying anything.
How were they dressed?
They were dressed in coveralls, off white type coveralls.
And he said, The only difference was theirs were more off white and the pilots were olive drab.
Okay, then what happened?
They came in, they sat down behind the cockpit up there, and one of them, the tall one, I believe, shut the door and locked it.
Went up there and sat down, and we took off.
We taxied out a little bit and turned and took off the same way we came in.
Okay, so the plane was heading in what direction?
Northwest.
And then he gives the description of the people, and then the one that looks exactly like Oswald he recognizes later as Oswald.
So, just the final thing is the piece where he goes.
Into Roswell and says, Where the hell am I?
You know.
And I got off the aircraft.
I went over to a building that had some lights in it.
Inside of it was an MP, and I asked him where I was at.
And he said, You're at Roswell Air Force Base, New Mexico.
And I said, Well, I thought I was going to Denver, Colorado.
And he said, No, you're at Roswell.
What time did the plane land there at Roswell?
He said, It must have been dusk around there, p.m.
All of the men, all four of them, jumped out of the back of the aircraft, and then they didn't tell me if they were going on to Denver or they were going to stay there.
And then they asked, Did you know what the base was?
And that's where he has the whole experience.
So, Then he goes on and he says, I saw the outlines of buildings, but it was getting dark.
And he said, Okay, you ended up there and you talked to the MP, then what?
Well, I asked him where the nearest bus station was, and he said, You can go anywhere.
You can't go anywhere right now.
And I said, Why?
He said, The base is on alert and nobody can come in or go out.
I thought that was funny because we had just come in.
And finally, I sat down and waited.
And it wasn't too long before he came over and told me, Well, you can go now.
It must have been around 9 p.m.
This is when you left.
Yes, that's when I left Roswell Air Force Base, and he told me where to catch a bus downtown.
I went downtown and caught the Greyhound to Colorado Springs.
I called my wife on a pay phone there.
How long had you been living in your home in Colorado Springs?
Let's say I moved there in 1962, and that's when you went into NORAD.
Right.
All right.
And what did you do while connected with NORAD?
I was the administrative supervisor in the electronics division, dealing with radar and all types of equipment in which we handled the codes.
What I think is instead of bumping this guy off once they discovered he was on the plane accidentally, Is they realized that he had so much skill and that he could be turned.
They could use his skill and he could be an asset in all this.
And he kept the secret this whole time.
But in the 90s, he went forward to bring it out.
And the Kennedy, the different groups that had assembled, like the Assassination Record Review Board, would not deal with Vincent's story because it had this Roswell aspect in it.
That's why it's become such a crucial thing.
Yes, what do you got?
Is it Vincent or Vincent?
It's V I N S O N. S O N.
Okay.
And I can tell you the name of the.
Book that details his influence, his story, his background is Flight from Dallas, New Evidence of CIA Involvement in the Murder of President Kennedy.
The book is from, I think, 1997.
And the Vincent story has just hung out there, you know.
And the Roswell thing always struck me.
And I have three or four videos of this guy.
And it's like, you know, it looks like the cheapest cable access TV stuff from 1997.
Eight, maybe, where he just sits there and he tells the story, and you realize this is an incredible, mind blowing story.
And Vincent's information only really, you know, I always thought it was fascinating, but it's only through the Boone connection to Roswell that I started to see how important Vincent's testimony was.
Yes.
Okay.
Pete DeSalvo says, There was talk of government radar experiments at the time of the crash.
Any truth to that?
Number six responds, Yes.
In fact, the McCarthy hearings exposed the Army experience with radar at Roswell.
And Joseph Tuga says, There's An Air Force radar facility near the Hill abduction, just like Roswell.
Oh, that's very interesting.
There's this idea that because of the type of radar that we were using got tremendously upgraded, that it took some of these craft that were perusing our nuclear sites by surprise that is, off world craft or somebody else with advanced technology.
And what takes place is that they adjust for it.
After the fact, but when we first start using it, it throws this crap off.
And I've mentioned this before that very often people find it hard to believe, well, this thing came all the way here from another galaxy and it crashes when it gets here.
Well, we have great technology, but when we send stuff to Mars, it crashes, right?
So, I mean, accidents is just a law of the universe, is it not?
So, therefore, anything like that can happen.
Yeah, you wouldn't expect it to happen too frequently because they're advanced, but certainly accidents happen even with the most advanced.
A couple of quick things here by Colonel Corso, and then we'll take your last couple of questions.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
This is X Series 199 going deep, deep into the Roswell reignited.
Do you feel it reignited?
I can feel the whole story reignited, and this is the tip of the iceberg going deep into that JFK UFO file.
Now, Colonel Corso worked very closely with the Kennedys on the UFO file and also was.
Present through the whole Roswell thing and managed the wreckage.
So he's an interesting link between the two as well.
Now, he's trying to address what they dealt with when they got the wreckage and all the rest.
And he says Nathan Twining, who's the general that writes the famous memo about UFOs, suggested the crescent shaped craft looked so uncomfortably like the German Horton wings our flyers had seen at the end of the war.
Kenneth Arnold's sightings with all the strange, kind of crescent shaped UFOs, that he had to suspect the Germans had bumped into something we didn't know about.
And his conversation with Wernher von Braun and Willie Lay in the days after the crash confirmed this.
Howard Hughes and Crescent Crafts00:15:39
They didn't want to be thought of as crazy, but intimated that there was a deeper story about what the Germans had engineered.
No, the similarity between the Horton Wing and the craft they had pulled out of the Arroyo was no accident.
We always wondered how the Germans were able to incorporate such advanced technology into their weapons development in so short a time and during the Great Depression.
Did they have help?
Maybe we were now as lucky as the Germans and broke off a piece of this technology for ourselves to redevelop.
You see, this is a little bit interesting, isn't it?
People will say, well, it was a Nazi thing.
It came over here, and here is Corso saying, you know, maybe the Nazis re engineered it, and that's why their stuff flying around is so advanced.
Now you see, we're getting somewhere.
And he wanted to say what we used the Roswell redeveloped technology for.
Here's a list Image intensifiers, which ultimately became night vision, fiber optics, super tenacity fibers, lasers, molecular alignment metallic alloys, integrated circuits, and micro miniaturization of logic boards.
Try that on for size.
Say it three times fast.
HARP, high altitude research project.
Project Horizon, Moonbase, portable atomic generators, which were ion propulsion drives, portable, oh no, irradiated food, third braid guidance systems, the EBE headbands.
Extraterrestrial biological entities had these weird headbands, and everybody wondered what is this stuff?
Particle beams, Star Wars anti missile energy weapons.
were composed of particle beam weapons, electromagnetic propulsion systems, depleted uranium projectiles.
He claims all of that, all of it comes through the Roswell redevelopment.
That's how important that crash was to our technology program.
That's how Colonel Corso saw it, who managed it.
Maybe he's got it right there.
Yes.
Ray Story, was Roswell a pre planned microwave attack on a UFO?
I've thought about this because of the whole thing about the Melchizedek device.
By the way, this is one of the aircraft.
That is the C 54 aircraft that our friend got on where he saw the Oswald double.
And what's interesting is what he says is when I got to Area 51, I was surrounded by these craft.
They were the same craft and they had the weird egg logo with the grids through it.
So that's obviously the birth of Janet Airlines.
And he was flown on Janet Airlines.
Can I throw this up there?
David Termina checked.
And the status of Roswell Air Force Base in 1963.
It says that the base was shut down in 1962.
Well, it's interesting because there's a lot.
When I went into that, I was seeing that there are different locations for Roswell and the Air Force bases.
Eventually, they did shut it down completely, I think, in 1976 and use it for something else.
But no, if you go, you know, obviously, where he's landing there in 1963 is, you know, he's at the Roswell base.
But that particular, like maybe the Kind of public Roswell Air Force Base is closed.
All right, but that's interesting.
Quick thing about our friend Bruce, who is the son of Yvonne DiCarlo and who is featured in my documentary, The UFO File Assassins X Protect.
And his, you know, Bruce Ross Morgan, he has an extraordinary section in there talking about her relationship with Howard Hughes.
And the UFO graveyard that he wanted to show her, that is Yvonne DiCarlo, when he was romancing her.
And that place, which disappeared off of maps, was called Rose's Well.
And there's the map he sent me.
Some of these maps are really old, but there's the map with Rose's Well there.
And it's pretty close to Perump, which, if you're familiar with Art Bell and where he was living, that's where he lived in Nevada.
And there's a shot there.
So there's Harump, and there's Rose's Well.
This kind of UFO graveyard of sorts that Howard Hughes was using and wanted to show with Von DeCarlo.
Very interesting because of the naming similarity between Roswell, New Mexico, and Rose's Well, which is a kind of a pseudonym for this.
So is there something with Roswell that goes older?
And is that why God is there with his, you know, the whole rocket thing and all the rest of it?
Final two questions, Miss Olivia.
Since you brought up Howard Hughes, George Ivankovich says Did Howard Hughes become a germaphobe because of knowing about alien bacteria killing soldiers?
Well, that's a very interesting theory.
He was certainly aware of UFOs and he would fly and try to chase them as a pilot.
And that's also in the documentary.
It's in the X Protect documentary.
So, if you want to find it, just go to the YouTube channel here, and you will find right there on the X series, Dark Journalist Documentaries, there's a whole playlist which has the most recent one, which is Pyramid X, and a couple.
If you go down a little bit, you'll find the X Protect documentary.
It has all the testimony of Bruce Ross Morgan and all the different things that.
Howard Hughes said to Yvonne DiCarlo's cousin about his experiences with UFOs.
Yes.
Okay, so Robert Ayala says Is the Roswell crash a cover up of a highly advanced Nazi German space aircraft or an unknown race operating for a long time hidden somehow?
And was the Melchizedek device used to crash it?
That's what I'm thinking.
And you're reading my mind because the Melchizedek device is the device that John Trump is searching for under instructions from the FBI and Vannevar Bush.
In the Tesla files.
And it seems like the Melchizedek device slips through their fingers because, as I pointed out last week, that when they're tapping the UFO contactee George Adamski's phone, they hear him talking about this device, the Melchizedek device, and how he watched a demonstration of how it took down a UFO.
And then they go there and kind of rough house him to get the truth out of him.
They send in six FBI agents.
And it's funny because Adamski folds and he's like, yeah, it's, you know, the scientific guys in Chicago, I'll give you their name right here.
And then secretly, the FBI is, you know, ticked off at him because they realize he's given them a false name and a false lead.
And they're like, okay, instead of going back there and roughing him up, let's just continue to tap his activities.
But it does not seem to me like they get their hands back on it.
But the possibility that it was used in the Roswell case is highly possible because.
If they were looking for it and they did find it in Tesla's papers and they did redevelop it with the help of John Trump, they certainly could have had it ready in four years.
Tesla dies in 43.
The Roswell incident is four years later.
So it makes a lot of sense.
It does.
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Yes.
Debra Tramina, DJ, if the Roswell base was one of the original nuclear strike capable sites, then it makes sense that it would draw attention and also explain why it would employ a secret beam weapon capability.
Yes.
Fuberfighter says Paula LaViolette posits phase conjugated radar as a means of remote propulsion and likely the Melchizedek weapon.
You know, I met Paul before he passed away.
He was part of the Secret Space Program conference that we did eight years ago.
And the guy, he was such a major intellect.
He was on another planet.
But his books are very, very interesting.
And yes, I definitely could see it in his research.
What do you got?
Now, John Madry says Has anyone tried testing the soil, I guess in Roswell, where the crash was, to see what's causing the dead soil?
Well, this is interesting because apparently.
It's under, you know, this toxic designation.
That much we know.
I always thought it was under control.
And I know it's sold in 2019 to new hands, but I don't think they have any more of a free hand.
I think it's all managed by the feds, even the owners that pick it up.
And they can't do the designations that I've seen, they can't do any farming or anything on it.
There was, you know, a very odd little.
Thing to put on this episode, and I'm gonna get it here.
Miss Olivia, we'll take your last question while I'm finding it.
Well, this one's easy.
DA says, Why have the Luna people not interviewed Schmidt or Thomas Carey or other ufology researchers?
Yeah, well, especially since they're doing the UFO file side now, you know, and it's funny because they keep canceling those.
Remember, Lou, Grosh, and Mellon all got sick on the same day.
They all live in different states.
What are the odds of that?
No, so somebody's trying to manipulate that for their own timing purposes.
Maybe this movie, Age of Disclosure, they want to do a premiere in Hollywood the same day they're doing the hearing.
That's how this stuff's being played.
It's a disgrace, but I think the thing that could come out of the Luna hearings with Burchett is if they combined the JFK hearings with the UFO hearings, and then that would be explosive.
It would rock the entire.
Foundation of the whole thing.
I've sent that information to them.
I've done a video addressing them directly, which is my response to the D class.
We did that a couple of weeks ago.
So all that material is there.
It's just sitting there.
Look at what we write, it's at their fingertips.
The Vincent story is something the ARRB should have handled.
If they're a real JFK committee now, they should include it, and it's a UFO story.
So what are you going to do?
I mean, that's the genuine article.
You know, in my opinion.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
The problem is money, is that there's just such a sickness.
People don't do anything unless they make money doing it.
And they certainly consider it sacrilegious to do something and lose money because of it, you know?
And truth and profit don't go hand in hand.
Oh, wow.
Is that really true?
Yeah.
Well, this is that whole peak metric thing I was talking about.
You see, the thing was the The promise of the independent media was it was going to operate on a different level than the corporate media being so profit driven or policy driven, influence driven stuff.
And what's happening is the independent media is going and creating, recreating a new version of the mainstream media.
And it's pretending it's independent and all this other stuff.
But what it did basically is it moved in on all the independent players and it came in like the big supermarket chain and threw out.
All of the genuine independent stuff and poured millions of dollars into this thing.
And I've mentioned this before, I won't say the name, but one of those major podcasters, right?
They have 46 different people working for them doing the podcast.
I mean, it's not, you know, that's not independent journalism, you know.
It is a different type of paid influence journalism.
So you're getting more into a kind of advertorial space.
But now you see these people kind of going crazy.
They're like, oh, I have to make up something fast in order to.
Drive my ratings up.
Well, if you've got 47 people working for you, that's the kind of people you've got to feed.
Oh, it's true.
And you can also draw a great deal from the genuine independent media, what's left of it, right?
So that's why there's so much plagiarism of this show.
Extraordinary.
I pointed out before Jesse Michaels, you know, people like that.
But they're all funded by Peter Thiel money.
So that's not independent journalism.
That is corporation moving into the UFO space, you know.
So they want to control it and they have the money and the influence.
To do that, the only thing that can get them is our awareness on the other side.
Like the ideas room can take a look at Peter Thiel's directory, documentary maker, and they can see through it.
They can see, oh, he's ripping off stuff from the X series and others, and that's just a Peter Thiel machine.
So let's get real about this stuff.
What I don't like, the lack of getting real in this field is hard because I get so deep into the subjects.
And I understand that the subjects are very far out, but I still come from almost like a deep state researcher's point of view.
And that stuff's very grounded.
And you can't have phony Matthew Brown grimoires, you know, and like, look, he's using an Anakian letter.
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What does it mean?
You know, he's been encouraged by all the wrong people to like go after Elon to get more hits for Corbell's show.
I mean, that's a pathetic field.
And unfortunately, it wouldn't.
It wouldn't really grow up if the people in that field, like George Knapp or Dolan or those types of people, acted almost like elder statesmen with the whole thing and were like, we won't deal with the frivolous nonsense.
Instead, they became part of it, and the CIA was like, we'll make you guys fly on the wall when the big UAP disclosure comes in.
So you don't have anybody.
I always say that we're a lone outpost on this, not to make it like we're great and everyone else is bad.
It's more like.
I would love to have more company from those players in examining, cross examining, and interrogating the counterintelligence people who have invaded the independent media and are trying to control all the narratives.
That's a dangerous situation that they've put us in, and that's where we are.
And with that, I can say that tonight, again, is a kind of karang back to that.
You know, you have the facts now.
That's what we're here for.
And with that, Miss Olivia, your last question.
I don't really have a last question, except I'm going to use this as a comment from Najat.
She says, What we know is creepy.
I can't even imagine what we don't know is like horrifying.
Oh, yeah.
Wow, that's a really good.
You remember I showed you that thing earlier?
It was Lichtenstein?
It was the prince.
And I think.
Oh, yeah, it is Lichtenstein.
Lichtenstein, yes.
So I can't think of the prince's name, but I wanted to close on this.
But I found out that the Prince of Liechtenstein attempted to purchase the Foster Ranch in 1989.
Now, this is very interesting because he's going to feature prominently in an upcoming episode because I have a very interesting experimental aerospace company that's connected directly with him.
And I think that's why he wanted the ranch.
But what he does when he finds out basically the U.S. government won't let him have it is he has this incredible, expensive plaque made for Deborah Proctor, who is the owner of the ranch 10 miles from the Roswell incident, commemorating her and commemorating the incident as changing humanity and all this other stuff.
Prince of Liechtenstein.
He kind of opened himself up there for deeper examination, and that's where we're going with all this.
And of course, the whistleblower Dorothy, she will be part of these episodes.
We're still working out how to have her come on without blowing her corporate cover.
And we have a pretty good idea about how to do that now.
And her story is remarkable.
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It should be told.
And we gave some of that mixed in here tonight.
And with that, Miss Olivia, I think your super chatters are off.
Okay.
Let me bring them up.
Hold on.
Okay.
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I'll do a couple of shout outs here.
I saw Kurt Metzger out there.
He was a great Kurt.
He was getting ready to go live, he was going to do a set.
Oh, unbelievable.
He was tuning in beforehand.
I, you know, the guy is fantastic.
We've had some very interesting conversations, and he, let me tell you, this is somebody thinking outside the box, but it's great to have him there, out there, and also hilarious with the comedy, just off the charts.
So we'll be talking to him soon.
And we had all kinds of fantastic people out there in the ideas room tonight.
Let's see.
Corey Anderson?
It's great to see you out there, sir.
Thank you very much.
Alchemy by Angela.
How are you, Jessica Rodriguez?
Have a wonderful evening, DJ and Miss Olivia Wings Girl.
Yes, and bravo, Miss Olivia Wings Girl.
Joseph Tugas, epic show, DJ and Olivia.
All the best.
Have a great weekend.
Yeah, considering that StreamYard and the soundboard almost went south on us, we really came through.
Thank God the technology didn't get in the way.
My cup runneth over, says Heather Senso.
And thank you for being with us.
It's great to have you with us.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
DA, thank you so much, sir.
Auntie Social, Golden Alley Cat, everybody's up there.
I know Kate's out there.
It's great to see you.
Jonathan McIntosh.
Let's see.
Kat Goida.
Hey, Kat.
Everyone have a great weekend.
It's great to see you.
Who else is up there?
Get with dark journalists if you want the true facts.
See?
George Ivankovich gets it.
David Tormina.
Great questions out there.
Man can change his stars.
Bingo.
Darcy Edmonds.
Look at the national citizens' average income levels.
Good point.
Excellent point.
Who else we got out here?
Fern folks.
Don't follow the narrative.
That's why it's earth shattering.
Oh, yep.
Don't follow the narrative.
It's why the earth is shaking, even if it's due, shaking because of BS.
That's great.
Love you guys, DJ and Olivia.
Darcy Edmonds, Tim Houston.
Tim, sir, it's great to see you out there.
Johnny Ricardo.
Arcturus, DJ.
Indeed.
Jonathan McIntosh.
Arcturus has to show up in the middle of all this.
Oh, hey, DJ, this boon in sight is highly significant, no doubt.
Yes, this is the opening.
This is a key that wasn't there.
This is a door that wasn't there.
Now that door is opening, and there's going to be a next plateau with it.
Like, big time.
Oh, let's see.
Who else have we got?
Just fascinating.
Thanks.
Ray Story, Lois, good night, all.
Thank you, Lois.
Everybody, just great out there tonight.
And thank you all, Night All.
Old as dirt.
Wow.
Great show tonight, Corey Anderson.
Thank you, everyone.
Just great to be with you.
And we will be back with you next week.
Before you wrap up, I have a feeling a lot of people will have intel for you to share.
Yes.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Why don't you tell them where they can reach you?
admin at darkjournalist.com.
I always check those myself.
And everything's that's really the best way to go, but yeah, fantastic.
And anyone who wants to share any of that information or anything else, please do.
And you know, I check them all and read them all, I can't respond to everyone, but I do my very best.
And certainly, if you have something, I certainly will.
And with that, we'll end the broadcast.
You know, it says end broadcast, but you know, never really ends, never really ends.
Thank you, Miss Olivia, and thank you, everyone, and the ideas from tonight.