Dark Journalist and Olivia dissect the JFK assassination, arguing that the "X Protect" group silenced Kennedy to prevent him from sharing UFO files with the Soviets. They detail Roscoe White's diary alleging a three-shooter plot where Oswald was a patsy, while linking the event to CIA deep state manipulation, secret space programs, and suppressed evidence involving figures like George Joannides. Ultimately, the episode posits that the assassination was driven by fears over advanced aerospace technology rather than simple mob or communist motives. [Automatically generated summary]
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Important Tonight: JFK Files00:02:49
And we are live.
This is Dark Journalist.
What a fantastic crowd we have out there in the ideas room already.
Of course, tonight I'm joined by the lovely Olivia.
Hi, everybody.
And Olivia, Saturday night's all right for fighting.
Saturday night's all right, all right.
And what I've noticed really with the JFK release is that there's been a lot of interesting reactions to these files coming out.
But I'll tell you, the most important documents have not yet arrived.
But I've been going through what they have released, and there are some powerful things in there that we're going to go through tonight.
The crux, though, I think that's been missing in all the coverage.
And of course, we know that the mainstream media coverage, the corporate media, stiff paid media, they're not going to really tell us a whole lot except, hey, Oswald was in Mexico City, which is a complete farce, and they don't have any evidence for.
But I will say this that on the independent side, there's been this splattering, and I think it's the Influence of these, it's the engagement farming.
It's stuff that's thrown out there.
It's the pop click group.
And it's really been messing things up a lot, and they don't have any of the background.
So I'm going to give that background tonight so that we know what we're dealing with.
We have real, real deep roots in the deep state here, going all the way back to May Brussels and Paris Flamand, Jim Mars, Peter Dale Scott.
I mean, there's a real foundation of knowledge.
A TikTok video and malarkey.
So, this is going to be important tonight.
We're going to get deep and I'm going to reveal a story to you here tonight that ties in with the files, but is explosive and is little explored and was buried by the FBI and the CIA.
And that is the story of Roscoe White.
And wait till I connect those dots for you tonight.
You will not believe the connections sitting there that the new Luna Task Force group, the D Class, can get their hands on if they have the courage.
But if they just want to play it safe and say, hey, we have one CIA guy back there who did something and lied under oath, it's going to be a much more tame affair.
This is explosive and rocks the deep state to its very core.
And it all comes up deep aerospace, X Protect, and the UFO file in the heart of the JFK assassination.
I'm going to show you how it all plays out.
And of course, we'll go a couple hours with you tonight in the second half of the program.
We're going to talk to you there in the ideas room and get your questions.
Miss Olivia will be taking those all through the show.
So, before I go any further, Miss Olivia, what do you got?
First off, I just wanted to say Tessa111 says, Happy vernal equinox.
Executive Orders and Deep State00:04:45
Yes.
Reason8432 says, End of the Kali Yuga.
Many people believe that.
Yes.
And Terry Doherty says, The end of deception, the beginning of spirituality.
Oh, wow.
Fascinating.
Well, it took a lot this year to get to spring, didn't it?
Can't you feel that?
Oh, God.
And it is like turning a corner.
And I think we needed it because the beginning of the year started off with explosions, all kinds of strangeness.
Remember the Vegas bomber?
And the Teslas and all that kind of thing.
We, uh, that seems like it seems like a year ago.
I know it really does.
We've been on quite a you know, a disturbance in the force kind of pattern, and at the same time, we've also had this new administration coming in.
There's a lot of hope, there's a great cabinet, um, there's hope maybe for some transparency in all of this, and also there are traditional uh administrative governmental challenges as we go along.
So, nothing's ever quite as perfect as it seems.
And one of the things that's been grabbing me lately is all the hostility between us and Canada.
It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
And I actually suggest that it's such a large scale distraction that the whole effort around making Canada a state just be nixed because, you know, they don't want it in their country.
And let's just get off that.
If we have clever ways of cutting our funding, if there's been a lot of wasteful spending in relation to Canada, that's fine.
But, you know, the whole annex of Canada thing, I don't know who came up with that, but I think they better get off that immediately.
I think that the partnership idea with Greenland.
It makes more sense.
And I think there should be a diplomatic mission to tighten the ties between the two.
But there's something strange.
Trump won on a mandate of toughening that border, opening up the government, getting the economy back into shape, restoring America.
And he's been really, through the executive orders, laying that down.
But this other stuff that gets thrown in, it seems like it's off on someone else's tangent.
So I would get past that.
If I was the administration, there's so much work to do on the core things.
That you won the election on, that I think I would stick with it and not get too distracted by that.
And, you know, we had the first two months really dominated by Doge.
I don't think really anything else got a chance to stand out.
And there's a great desire to cut government waste, but I think it should be more committee oriented and have leading senators and things like that in it, as opposed to these, you know, Elon Musk just going off and being.
Such the center of that because he has a tendency, because of the nature of the coverage on him, so polarizing, to take all the oxygen out of the room so Trump doesn't get a chance to put forward his full agenda on that.
So I would reduce Elon's role a little bit and push forward your VP and really get a Senate Congress team together working with Doge for those cuts and get the results so that these judges can undo what you're doing, work directly with the Congress.
You control both houses.
Right now, they're in the Trump administration, so go for it.
Make them, you know, adjust to the changes through legislation and let those executive orders stick and be the earthquake that starts things.
But remember, executive orders can always be undone, whereas congressional legislation that becomes law is very hard to get around.
Even the Supreme Court can't touch that.
So take that majority and run with it with all the policies that the people want to see and that got the Trump administration in there.
And do it less and less as a publicity stunt for Musk and stuff.
I think he's getting himself in there a little too much.
And this guy's always interesting because I think there's, you know, you leave the door open with whatever it is he's doing because certainly some positive things have come out of him buying Twitter.
But I think when it comes to the administration, the administration is the administration after all.
And there's been some insane stuff on the other side.
I think that the Democrats have really dissolved in terms of any kind of real meaning.
That it's been going on.
So, you might see a whole new movement pop up here in the middle of all this.
And that would be great.
I really think that they burned themselves with four years of Stepford Biden and, you know, the whole Tim Waltz disgraceful.
So, let's thank our lucky charms that we got a different administration on that.
Fascist Influences in the Deep State00:14:00
The Kennedy records and the assassination of President Kennedy is so important a piece of the fabric.
Of our geopolitical, social, economic, and philosophical spiritual life in America, because there was such a political earthquake when this happened 61 years ago.
And the hiding it by these forces that became, that constituted the deep state, including the Central Intelligence Agency and various collections of powerful economic interests.
What happened really is that the regular government seemed like it was overthrown, and this other system came in, and we've never fully corrected from that, although we've had moments, and it's never been fully understood what took place.
And so a lot of those forces have gone on unimpeded.
And as I've mentioned before, the CIA never really took any real censure for their actions during these various deep events, especially the first deep state revolt against the White House, which was the Kennedy assassination.
Now, there's a Been a lot of memes and you know these pop click things like I've been talking about, engagement farming, trying to get you off the track of what the Kennedy assassination is all about and what that secrecy is about.
All the deepest, deepest researchers, as I mentioned at the top, May Brussels, Jim Mars, and others, the thing that they saw was a fascist element creep in through the CIA and try to dominate the government.
That's the thing that we're going into because it was those powers.
That try to seize power of ruling from above through an incredible space station, space grid.
That was the design, and they knew it was going to take a long time.
And they feel like they're coming close to achieving that goal.
This is the thing that they're trying to keep us off of, and I'm going to reinstate it tonight.
First of all, Jim Mars, Rise of the Fourth Reich, he goes all into the fascist influences.
Weighing in in that deep state and creating the situation.
This book is from 2015.
The Essential Mae Brussels, Fascism in America.
You get it?
When they've gone deep, and these are the best researchers, they found a fascist element.
This is the thing that we're looking for.
So we're not looking for a state actor.
We're not looking for the mafia.
We're looking for a core deep state with these fascist influences.
That's what the researchers have given us.
And they gave us 30, 40.
50 years of their lives.
These are the decades.
Of course, Dr. Joseph Farrell, a regular in this program, this whole piece that he has in here is all about a fascist influence involved in the assassination of President Kennedy.
And of course, the work of Mark Lane, the last word, the indictment of the CIA and the murder of JFK.
Why is it on the independent side the CIA is completely missing?
In the conversation around the JFK files, it makes no sense at all.
And they're just going over the cliff with these various things.
Now, when you get to a pet thing in research generally, what you get is this kind of loudmouth thing.
And it says, you know, the Vatican is responsible for everything that's evil in the world.
So they were responsible for JFK.
The Jesuits were responsible.
The Masons were responsible.
It goes down a whole list of these various things.
The deep state doesn't work like that.
It's not one monolith.
These different researchers, Professor Peter Dil Scott, they've shown us the nature of it.
It is a system of a number of influences coming together to create deep events in the public and then retreat back into that covert world.
That's the way it operates.
And this is the nature of the study and the track that we've been on.
The way that I look at the other types of reporting is they're not deep.
They've studied it for five minutes, they've read a book one weekend or something, and then they need to run out to feed their engagement farming, you know.
And I was looking at A number of these trying to figure out who's running this because it's definitely financially oriented through X, through TikTok, and other places.
And I saw this one engagement farm person.
They put up a picture, and the thing had 3 million views for a picture.
And it wasn't even a particularly impressive picture.
So, you know, their bots system is out of control.
So, more and more, we need to go to core, and I mean really, really vital information and vital researchers for the most.
Potent info.
That's what we're looking for.
We're not looking to go over a cliff with someone's theory on this or that.
We're trying to get to the core of what the deep state is.
Professor Peter Dale Scott, he put out, he coined the term the deep state.
He's got five decades of research.
He forms the foundation of my own thinking in so many political areas because there's foundational thinking and the nesting of details behind it.
So we have to be very careful that what's going to happen, and it reminds me a little bit of the Q movement a few years ago, which is to get you on a particular track and then Run you over a cliff with little two second tweets and things like that.
That's got nothing to do with genuine research.
You know, that's fun just for mixing it up or whatever, but don't confuse that with actual research.
And I think it's becoming a pretty big problem because the way that the dialogue around certain issues is getting influenced is just divisive and it's intentionally trying to throw us off the track.
If you have a real deep transparency movement, and even this panel, Although it's government people and the Congress and all the rest, even the Luna D class panel can be used for something to really drive a wedge against the deep state if the proper people are brought forward.
Now, unfortunately, on the UFO file side, you see the infiltration of the Central Intelligence Agency deep, and I mean deep, deep in this, especially since 2017 in the public, but always eight decades long.
And now they're doing a panel on a congressional panel.
Hearings on UFOs coming up.
And unfortunately, the people who are getting in there are, as we've mentioned, people like Elizondo and Grush and all the rest of it.
As a matter of fact, Grush, who was one of the whistleblowers that came out from, he was originally from the NRO, and I talked to him famously.
We had this whole discourse.
But what's interesting is he was now hired by Congressman Burleson to be his UAP advisor.
Now we have Elizondo trying to be the UAP czar.
By blowing sugar at the Trump administration.
And what's interesting is if you go into Chris Mellon, who runs all of these whistleblowers, as David Grush told me, he couldn't do anything without Mellon's approval, or he couldn't come on my show and all the rest of it because Mellon wouldn't approve.
And Mellon himself, the DOD billionaire who controls the UFO threat operation, is in the heart of these things.
So if he's putting people on this committee and that committee, That's just more of that deep state influence.
That's the thing that needs to be booted out.
And unfortunately, with Luna, although she has a good JFK setup for April 1st, that's coming up, her UAP committee is going to have people like Grush.
Now, and I don't have anything against Grush, I enjoyed talking with him, but clearly, the Mellon people were controlling all that.
So, David Grush, hired by Representative Burleson, Grush will serve as senior advisor on the congressman's staff to provide insight and guidance.
and on good old News Nation.
Now, then we had Lou coming out as the elder statesman on CNN and saying, I'll take the slings and arrows as long as I can get the UFO truth out, or UAP.
UFO whistleblower believes Trump's second turn will reveal further proof.
Now, it's interesting because both Mellon and Elizondo are severely, and I mean before the election, severely anti-Trump.
So now they're kissing up to try to get in there and pretend that they're great fans of Trump, which is complete BS.
And of course, they were part of the DeLong Clinton Podesta operation.
That's where the whole thing came out of with Jim Semivan, the career intel official.
And, you know, all those people are very good at their jobs.
I'm sure somebody like Semivan is terrific as a CIA officer, but we don't want those people running disclosure because the CIA counterintelligence people are classically heavy, heavy duty liars.
And we're going to study one of their most intense lies tonight, which is the cover up around the JFK assassination.
And through the figure of Lee Harvey Oswald, and the various things that did come out in the records to show that, in fact, they were planning to set him up and were intercepting his mail for four years and using him and positioning him as the designated culprit, including pulling away the various warnings from the FBI and the Secret Service about him only six weeks before the assassination.
We're going to get into all that tonight as we reveal the secret space menace.
Remember, behind this is an aerospace UFO file program.
That's the point.
That's where we want to get to.
That's the plateau that we're aiming at.
Not state actors, not infighting, not mafia or Lee Harvey Oswald as a lone shooter.
None of that nonsense.
What we want is the hardcore truth, which is the Kennedy assassination as a cover up of advanced technology.
This is the nature of the thing, including the fact that Kennedy wanted to share that advanced technology with the sworn enemies of that wing inside the deep state.
And that technology is the UFO technology.
So that's what we've been reporting on here.
We're going to show you and lay that out with evidence, not with pop click, head shaking TikTok video, but with the real thing.
Although I'll shake my head a little bit tonight.
So before I go any further, what do you got?
Richard Fret says I would guess that the FBI, CIA, NSA, and others are listening in.
Rotten Creepy Bit says Space menace involves strategic gameplay, resource management, and tactical battles against various factions and pirates.
And Mermaid Moxie says DJ needs to go on Alex and do a breakdown of the JFK slash UFO files.
Well, you know, be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.
I'm not going to say anything else.
But yeah, there's all kinds of things in the works.
And I do want to go through those things.
And I'll tell you, Alex, you know, in our conversations, this is a guy who has a lot more knowledge around the UFO file than I think most people would realize because he's been such a, on the deep state front lines, fighting it out.
With those guys, that I don't think people, very many people, have put him together with this, but boy, the guy knows a lot on that.
I'll give him a lot of credit.
What else you got?
Lancelot Link says, DJ, it feels like we're living out Dr. Strangelove in real time, only the lunacy is turned way up to 11.
Exactly.
It really does.
So, who's Peter Sellers playing three different roles for?
It's interesting because I will say this about a lot of movies that came out right there in that window around 64, which is they were very informed.
They understood what was coming.
And I think Manchurian Candidate, Seven Days in May, which is all about a COG commander, after all, taking over.
Hey, look, you know, Gregory Guillaume, he was just on 60 Minutes and he did a whole thing about these drones and said, you know, those drones came up.
It was a threat that we didn't know of, but now we've got, we're watching those skies now.
Yeah.
Well, you've only been NORAD for how many decades?
And suddenly you're watching the skies?
I'm sure the drones were theirs, but I think if we, the more we get into this, we're going to see that the COG people, this is another core thing.
You know, when we're looking at records for things, we have to know what it is we're, We're seeking and the continuity of government players, very mysterious, and yet they're so deeply threaded throughout every major structural, deep event in American history that we need to understand all about that emergency office who the personnel are, how many billions of dollars is it budgeted every year, what are the actual terms for COG takeover and emergency powers.
These types of things, since we're actually signed on to the NDAA 9 11 emergency.
Hello, how many years ago was 9 11?
Well, it was 24 years ago come September, and we're still living under the September 11th emergency.
Doesn't that seem rather excessive?
Well, that's the doorway you see because without the September 11th emergency, you can't have NORTHCOM.
And NORTHCOM is the key because the combatant commander of the United States under an emergency is the NORTHCOM commander, who also is the NORAD commander.
So he's a triple threat.
Roscoe White's Believable Story00:06:20
So this is a place where I think.
In general, independent research and the independent media should be looking at.
And, you know, I like everybody's research to some degree, but I think as a whole, the independent media is not because of this engagement farming thing where it's for clicks and the money thing.
I think that they're not, you know, living up to the name independent.
I don't think any of them have anything to do with research or journalism.
They're just out there to, you know, do this whole trip.
So, I would say it's probably incumbent upon us in this information saturated environment to be very discerning.
Let's put it that way.
You're right, there is a saturation.
It really is.
So, here's what I'm going to open up with tonight on the research side that there was a policeman in Dallas.
Who had a very interesting background in that he had also gone over to Utsugi in Japan with Oswald.
He'd gotten a hardship discharge just like Oswald, and he was in Dallas just like Oswald.
This gentleman's name is Roscoe White, and Roscoe, interestingly enough, worked in the photography department along with being a policeman.
He would do photo analysis and sketches and things.
For the police department.
That's our friend Roscoe White.
Take a good look.
Now, when Roscoe mysteriously died in an explosion in 1971, something very interesting turned up that his family found among his possessions.
And it was this very interesting early Photoshop version, say 1963 Photoshop, of a Lee Harvey Oswald type photo.
And as you can see from the actual picture, Of the famous backyard picture, which supposedly convicted Oswald in the public's eye, and they ran in Time magazine and everything else.
That's supposed to be Oswald in the backyard posing with a rifle, a pistol, and a communist manifesto newspaper, which is about the stupidest thing you could do if you were planning to assassinate somebody just advertise yourself with all these guns.
And this, again, is what they found in Roscoe White's effects.
Take a good look.
Now, Roscoe and his background is very interesting.
But a strange thing happened that opened this story up.
It came up a few times.
It even came up through the House Assassination Committee investigations through the 1970s, but they didn't know where to go with it.
Well, interestingly enough, come 1990, the son of Roscoe White comes forward and becomes a strange media sensation for a couple of weeks, saying that he found.
A diary.
And the diary was hidden away among his father's effects.
And I should say that, you know, Roscoe had a pretty long and distinguished career in the military and as a policeman.
And then he chose to quit the force in 1965, about a year after the Kennedy assassination.
And he was pretty young to do that.
But Ricky White was his son who claimed to find this diary.
And the diary, according to Ricky, showed that Roscoe had been talked into being a part of this plan to remove a national security threat.
And the place he needed to be was in Dealey Plaza on November 22nd.
Now, Ricky White's story got buried after it became this heavy duty roller coaster.
And there were all these media hit pieces on Ricky saying, you know, oh, he's just saying this and all the rest of it.
But Ricky came out there with a number of his stories.
His story was quite believable, and he had family members who backed him up and said, you know, we found some of this stuff with him.
Now, Roscoe's revelations in there talked about the way that the coordinates of the assassination and gave code names to the people involved.
And he called himself Mandarin and said the person in the Texas School Book Depository's name was, they had a series of different names, but the other person in the School Book Depository's name was Lebanon.
Now, when Roscoe White died, they found a 7.65 Mauser among his effects.
And of course, the first rifle that was found inside the Texas School Book Depository, owned by an experimental aerospace CEO.
Was a 7.65 Mauser.
As a matter of fact, we know it was reported in all the original coverage on CBS, Walter Cronkite, and that whole thing.
They all said that, oh, the gun's a 7.65 Mauser.
Three hours later, it changed, and all the coverage changed to this Manliker Carcano, and this is what they decided to go with.
So, what I'm going to do tonight is Roscoe's wife and Ricky's mother decided to give an interview before she died talking about these various things.
And that also got messy because a press agent got involved, ran off with materials.
There was a whole thing about it.
And yet, there were certain things that she put on the record that I think fall into this transparency disclosure.
Space at the Core of Kennedy's Program00:02:51
And I recommend that the Luna D-Class Committee, one, get the diary back, the Roscoe White diary back from the FBI through a request to Kash Patel.
That if they took the diary from Ricky White in 1990, that would be 35 years ago.
And there should be a record of it, and it should be still in their possession.
He was never able to get it back.
Those things should be brought forward.
And I think one of the people that they should bring forward is Ricky White, because I think Roscoe White not only is someone who served to help facilitate the plan of the assassination, but I think he was someone who was called upon to do things like create the manipulated photo and other things that he was an expert at.
And I think that there is a lot left in the story of Roscoe White to give us more of a foundation around those connections.
And I'm going to show you, it leads again.
To aerospace through general dynamics.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
This is X Series 194.
It's JFK files CIA secret space UFO menace.
This is where the nature of the problem of the Kennedy assassination goes into space.
What do we really even remember John F. Kennedy for ultimately?
He was a great statesman.
He was looking for peace.
He was trying to negotiate the nuclear test ban treaty.
But his single greatest achievement, Was creating such a boost to the NASA space program and making a pledge that we're going to go to the moon, not because it's easy, but because it's hard.
And so let's remember that space is at the core of the program of President Kennedy.
And the expansion therein, if you're going to create a space grid to control things on the ground, and someone else is gaining on you, a popular political figure, and he is inserting himself and saying, we're going to keep.
Space demilitarized.
That creates big problems for this group, and that is the X Protect group.
You know, they've been talking about a clique of CIA researchers, of CIA agents, and they were the ones who assassinated President Kennedy.
Well, you know, there's a clique for you.
The X Protect group is the group assigned, they were once called the Silence Group by various researchers who were around the UFO file in the 50s and 60s.
And including Donald Kehoe, that expert group maintains that secrecy because, in the words of physicist Robert Saarbacher, the UFO file is above the secrecy of our nuclear program.
Well, how secret is that?
Predicted Documentaries and Hidden Scans00:05:01
Keep that in mind.
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Through the newsletter, you'll learn about documentaries.
Of course, JFK, the final speech includes JFK and the UFO file, that whole piece, and it's in the description of this program.
I've put that documentary out there for free, but it's part of a mini series that we're doing on JFK.
And of course, the Hacking Atlantis series is there also.
There were some exciting discoveries, of course, this week and some scans, and some people went over the moon with it.
I think there needs to be more data.
Presented, but some of the artist descriptions were just showing scans that were shot from space with a kind of space lidar, space radar, about different types of structures beneath the Khafri pyramid on the Giza Plateau.
This story is going to be huge for a lot of reasons.
Now, even if those scans were overplayed, and I think some of them were, the crux of what they're talking about, including underground caverns beneath the pyramids and the things that The mystery schools and Edgar Cayce and others have talked about, of course, the incredible Atlantean infrastructure beneath the Sphinx and the pyramids.
This is stuff that was laid out and predicted.
And I think that if this information brings us closer to that, and we'll get more details on this story and we'll do a special report on it.
But I do think it's an exciting possibility.
And I think that there's going to be a lot that comes out in relation to this deeper archaeology over the, you know, let's say the next five years, something major is brewing in this department.
And we're really, you know, we've been set up for this by a lot of that mystery school information, which is why I think it's so crucial for us to, you know, review that and to understand the nature of what they're trying to give us there as we're being saturated by this kind of artificial intelligence transhumanism.
There's this other stream of something coming in which could help humanity awaken from this.
Uh, scientific materialism slumber, there you go.
And, um, but all that is to say, we're going to do a special on that.
And in terms of the newsletter, make sure you're on it because all the things that we have coming up live events, documentaries, incredible X series episodes, interviews that are going to blow your mind.
And we're setting some of those up right now.
I had a conversation yesterday, and I won't say with who, but they're coming on the program and it's going to be powerful because they're going to come on with some very special material.
So make sure you're on that newsletter.
And it'll show up about once a week to let you know about the incredible things that we have in store for you, okay, Miss Olivia.
Before I jump off, Bethany G says, Dr. Robert Schock is reserved about the pyramid analysis, also waiting for more info.
Also, Dr. John DeSalvo is holding back until more review.
Yeah, um, people are so excited, yeah, because it's so exciting.
Yeah, we have to play it cool.
No, it's true, and this is where that engagement farming thing is important too, because you need to have real hardcore knowledge, you know.
Stanton Friedman used to say, Have facts in hands before you put mouth in gear.
Stanton was hilarious.
And, you know, that's really the way to go with this.
But it is exciting.
And I'm 100% behind it.
Look, we just did Hacking Atlantis, The Craze in the Hot Zone, which is all about the Hall of Records, the Two Eyes Stone in Atlantis, and how we have all of this Atlantis infrastructure in Egypt.
But, you know, its corollary over there in Bimini, in the Bahamas, is the Bimini Poseidon Temple, which also contains a Hall of Records.
And guess what?
There's a third one.
Which is in Yucatan under a temple there.
This is in Edgar Cayce's very careful readings over the course of three decades.
Keeps coming back to this hall of records.
There's a reason for that.
And we're in the window for this to happen.
But yeah, I think Shock has always been a great researcher, and he'll be very careful about it.
He's right here over at BU.
And of course, Graham Hancock will look deeply into this and has spent so much time at that Giza complex that he'll study it.
I will say that the artist's interpretation was very imaginative versus the actual sound scan, but it doesn't matter because.
The crux of the matter is that there's something beneath there.
There's a mega structure hiding, just as the Sleeping Prophet Edgar Cayce had predicted.
So I think we're in for something really special in regards to this.
The Zapruder Film and End Life00:15:15
Yes, what do you got?
Someone said Pogate out there.
Yes, let me tell you, Pogate 3 is in the making.
We did two episodes on Pogate, and they are classics.
But Pogate 3 is coming up.
Yeah.
Elsid Barrett wants to know so was White in the new docks?
That came out?
No, but it's interesting because if you apply a kind of what I call a negative template to the docs, that is what's not in there, then you start to.
This is something that Professor Scott sort of taught me.
It's the things that are omitted that you start to wonder, okay, that's interesting.
But I think the general thrust of the documents.
Coming in, what we're learning is that the Central Intelligence Agency, through the records, we can say for a fact, lied under oath a number of their agents about knowing who Oswald was, what his position was, and what they were doing with him.
So those things now are going to be on the record.
So when they talk about the Central Intelligence Agency in relation to the Kennedy assassination, they're not going to be able to talk in the old way unless they just want to repeat talking points.
The facts on the ground are that James Jesus Angleton is.
Definitely lying when he's called before these committees and they ask him about Oswald because we find through the records now that not only was he studying Oswald since 1959, but had a 180 page dossier on him by the time he was involved there in Dealey Plaza.
And there's no question that they had done the whole designated culprit thing with him.
And some arm of the intelligence community was carefully moving him into position.
So he could take the fall come November 22nd.
That is coming in through the records.
We're going to read some of those and go into Angleton a little bit tonight as well.
But on White, let's keep on White a little bit longer because there was an article in the Texas Monthly that goes back maybe 15 years where someone did a review of the whole Ricky White situation.
And they were doing it in a cynical fashion.
But as always, whenever I encounter skeptical type articles, there are great.
Little pieces in there of interview snippets.
One of the great things in that whole retelling, and I've read the books, watched the different things, gone back and found those various interviews that Ricky did, and I can tell you there's a lot in the story that remains.
And I know that the FBI absconded with all the materials of Roscoe White, including the diary that Ricky found.
This is something that can be recaptured.
And it's interesting because a number of people who were associated.
Around the Central Intelligence Agency, who later came out, because originally in the 70s and 80s, everyone thought this was going to come out.
And, you know, they would come out and talk about it and say, yeah, there was a second Zapruder film.
You know, I saw it.
And, you know, there was a whole thing with Douglas Horn and all the rest of it about how the first Zapruder film, they were trying to manipulate it.
They had difficulties in trying to get rid of the rear entrance exit wound.
And, you know, In the president's head.
So there's a whole thing out there in the possession of the Central Intelligence Agency, which is a second Zapruder film.
And so this thing has been manipulated.
There's a lot of witnesses for that.
I'm developing a list now of things that the Central Intelligence Agency and the FBI have, including the Ricky White diary, that we can really test the mettle of the new administration by getting to them through these public channels and saying, Have so and so released this or look into it.
The Ricky White diary of Roscoe White's diary, who was active in the Dallas police force during the assassination, is definitively important when it comes to the Kennedy assassination, should be part of the Luna committee.
And when I was hearing about what they were going to do with that committee, you know, if it's just a retread of maybe the CIA.
Had some foreknowledge or something, that's not going to do it.
You're going to have to go really hard and shake into the roots of the assassination.
And the way that you do that is get into the aerospace aspect and get into the hidden files of George Joannides, who controlled and created the Oswald Project as the top psychological warfare officer for the CIA in 1963 and who created the interface for all of the JFK panels going forward, making sure they only got limited info.
So he was the major controller.
And of course, as we demonstrated in a number of shows, I showed this last week, but he got his medal from Bobby Inman, the ex CIA deputy director and NSA director.
And it was a career intelligence achievement medal.
Well, he did something very, very special, which is he created the Oswald Project.
But the very interesting thing about Inman, of course, is his deep connection to the UFO file.
Inman is in his early 90s now, he resides in Texas, and he could be called in as a witness to this committee.
To testify before it.
And I'll tell you, I would enjoy asking those questions.
I could give them a list of really good questions.
But I think they should do that with Inman.
He's still with us.
And all he has to answer is what did you give the medal to Joe and Ittys for?
He will know the answer to that.
What else you got?
Kenneth Swartz wanted to know who ran the FBI in 1990?
Well, we had Louis Free.
Let's see, he comes up later.
It was a guy named Sessions, it was FBI Director Sessions.
And he ran it until the end of Bush 1, which was that 1992.
So, yeah, not Jeff Sessions, a different Sessions, William Sessions, I think.
But, yeah, he, you know, there's a very interesting story that Ricky tells.
And Ricky, you know, he had to go really underground.
He got a lot of threats for coming out with this information.
He's a very interesting guy.
And I think he needs to be called back from the arc of history from the sidelines.
And they should put him right dead center in that committee to tell his story about Roscoe.
And it was really a thankless task, I think, in his case.
And there were people who came in and tried to manipulate it and make it, you know, a kind of a hard copy paperback bestseller.
But I'm going to read some very interesting selections from three different articles about this Ricky White story.
And then I'm going to show how all this gets us back into General Dynamics, Guy Bannister, and the hunt for the UFO file.
This is going to be the crux, the opening there for that.
Deep state investigation on the JFK side that connects to the UFO file.
Let's get into this.
So, Roscoe White's wife, at the end of her life, had this to say.
She said that Roscoe said to her, Honey, it's like war.
The president is a national security threat.
We could be in a very nuclear war very soon.
But he's got two children, I told him, just like you.
He said, Honey, matters were taken out of our hands a long time ago.
This is the only conversation that she had with him about whatever it was that was going on.
Now, this national security threat thing is interesting because when the situation was explained, E. Howard Hunt gave this conversation to the Watergate lawyer, Douglas Caddy, saying that they had to eliminate.
Kennedy, because he was about to give our most vital national security secret to the Russians, which was the UFO file, in order to avoid a nuclear war.
Because the idea was if you had a UFO go over a nuclear base in that era, 1963, the Russians could think it was us.
So Kennedy thought we should have high level negotiations around this.
They have a UFO file, we do.
Let's share all the high threat cases with them.
There's a series of outer space matters memos and sharing our information with the Russians.
In the Kennedy Library, and there's a whole outer space initiative with them.
There are other documents which indicate that Kennedy asked for the high threat UFO cases to be shared with the Russians, directing his then CIA director, John McCone, to give him that information by February 1964 so they could reconcile it with the Russians.
So Kennedy has a whole UFO knowledge piece and fingerprint and major.
Policies in terms of his administration.
Now, there aren't many books about it because remember, it's a higher secret than the nuclear secret, according to our top physicist in the 50s, who I'm sure regretted saying this after the fact.
But there are incredible telltale pieces about JFK and the UFO file, including the fact of Harold Malmgren.
And some of Malmgren's relatives are going to bring out some films of Malmgren.
Talking at the end of his life.
I talked to him behind the scenes and he tweeted out quite a bit.
He didn't say, you know, I was inside a flying saucer or anything like that.
He was a real JFK advisor.
And what he said was the briefings on the UFO file and otherworldly technologies were coming through Richard Bissell.
And Bissell was the person who simultaneously for the CIA set up all these counterinsurgency programs, but also was in charge of Blue Book.
So he's got the deep state mentality, but he's working the UFO file.
And Curtis LeMay is involved.
There's a number of different people.
This is now on the record because he told me, he told others, he even tweeted about it.
Unfortunately, he didn't make it to the interview on this program because he passed away, even though we were talking only a week and a half before that about setting up this interview.
But he did, he was, there were relatives of his, and there was one group that filmed him.
So we're going to see those things come out.
So keep that in mind here about that thread.
And then I'm going to read you more about Ricky White and Roscoe White.
Now, Geneva White from her modest home in Odessa was telling me how her late husband, Roscoe Anthony White, was involved in the assassination of President Kennedy.
And this person is cynical as he's hearing the story.
He's like, oh, it was wildly implausible, blah, blah, blah.
But nonetheless, there's some real gold in some of this coverage.
Roscoe White was in the same military division as Lee Harvey Oswald, the first Marine Air Wing.
So were about 7,000 other Marines.
Geneva swears that her husband and Oswald were friends.
Roscoe White was a Dallas policeman in the fall of 1963, and Geneva worked for a few weeks as a hostess at Jack Ruby's Carousel Club.
There's a huge Roscoe White Ruby piece with this.
And then we're going to bring in Industrial Security Command DISC, Defense Industrial Security Command, where each one of these people are identified as members.
Now, according to her, she was listening outside of Ruby's office door, and Ruby caught her listening.
Ruby was talking to her husband at the time, and he threatened to kill her two children, Tony and Ricky, if she ever disclosed anything that she heard.
And what happened was Roscoe said, you know, trying to make peace with Ruby, that he was going to send his wife to get shock treatments.
That's the way that he could make sure that she was out of the picture and she would never say anything, but don't harm my family.
And this is what happened.
She actually took shock treatments.
Now, what happened is she said, The day of the assassination, Roscoe looked like a whipped dog when he went to work, he didn't touch his breakfast.
I heard on TV that Kennedy had been shot.
Then they said that a policeman had been shot.
And then I thought to myself, Oh my God, it's Roscoe.
But then he came home, just like always.
I put the kids to bed about nine.
And when I asked him what happened, he said, Honey, I never dreamed it would come to this.
Now, it's very interesting that the pattern of his death fits the whole JFK witness pattern, which is he dies in a mysterious explosion and he becomes another person around Dealey Plaza and the assassination who has a very implausible death.
But so I'm going to whip through this because there are so many pages.
I'm just going to jump.
From each page to little points that I've highlighted in here.
She said that Ruby came over to see him after the assassination and he was flying high like he was drunk.
He talked about Oswald and said it wouldn't be any problem because he'd get a signal when they were ready to move him.
So here we have her account that Ruby is planning to take out Oswald.
Now, This is more about her account.
I'm going to get more into Ricky's after this.
Now, Roscoe White's diary that Ricky found among his personal effects is no longer available because when he was interacting, he went to the FBI.
He was stupid enough to give them all of his material, and they never gave the diary back.
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The journal was an interesting mix of the convenient.
It must have read like a movie script, and yet it was a scenario that nearly every critic of the Warren Commission wanted to believe.
As Ricky recalls, the entry for November 22nd, 1963, started like this.
This is from Roscoe White's diary.
I was Mandarin, the man behind the stockade fence who fired two shots.
Lebanon was the man in the book depository who fired two shots.
Saul was the man in the records building who fired two shots.
Oswald wasn't mentioned by name, but apparently he was the patsy, not one of the shooters.
Mandarin's spot behind the stockade fence at the crest of the grassy knoll would have been perfect position for a sniper.
Now, we all know the badge man picture reveals someone in a police uniform back there.
It's always been assumed.
That was the Corsican hitman Lucien Sarti.
And even in one of the strange maps that E. Howard Hunt made on his deathbed, he puts a French hitman on the grassy knoll.
So we have shooters and different trajectories for things.
That's not really the crux of this.
What is interesting is the reasons that the group that's involved with putting him in this position are giving him, they're saying you need to eliminate a national security threat.
Keep in mind, again, Hunt's selection of the term Kennedy had to be eliminated because he was going to give our most vital national security secret to the Russians.
This is what united a number of these people.
And it was the selling point to get people involved as well.
Now, a little bit about Roscoe White.
Who was Roscoe White?
He grew up in a farm outside of Foreman, Arkansas.
He was a model boy who loved football.
And he had all these various things.
He was really into the Cold War and afraid of communism and all the rest of it.
At 21, he married Geneva, who was just 15.
Figure that one out.
A year later, he joined the Marines.
In August 1957, he sailed aboard the USS Bexar from San Diego. To Yakosuka, Japan, one of the shipmates was Lee Harvey Oswald.
For the next five and a half months, White and Oswald were assigned to the 1st Marine Air Wing, first at Atsugi and then later at Subic Bay in the Philippines.
Oswald was a radar operator in Marine Air Group 16.
The two groups may have been quartered miles apart, but Oswald and White drank at the same enlisted men's club.
Being Texans a long way from home, there's a good chance the two met.
Well, according to Geneva, they were very, very good friends, in fact.
And One of the things I want to point out about Roscoe is there are researchers over the years, and I won't get too hung up on the photography because I think we've all seen a lot of the various photo montages of Oswald.
But there are people who say that the backyard photo, that the face, the bottom half of the body that they put in there actually was Roscoe White.
There's a lot of interesting things that linked Roscoe White into the assassination long before Ricky and the Diary came about.
Okay, a little bit more.
In 1959, White re enlisted for six years, but inexplicably changed his mind in 1962 and applied for a hardship discharge.
And then Oswald did also apply for a hardship discharge.
And Oswald ended up going to the Soviet Union, of course.
That was a couple years earlier in 1959.
But Geneva White remembers her husband talking particularly about his good friend, Lee Oswald.
Now, interestingly enough, among the memorabilia that Roscoe brought out, they call him Rock, Roscoe brought home after his discharge was a photograph of a group of Marines waiting to board a ship in the Philippines.
Oswald is clearly identifiable in the foreground, and Geneva says that the Marines in the background, whose face is shaded by the bill of his cap, is her husband.
Oddly enough, that same photograph, cropped differently, was published in Life magazine three months after the assassination.
So, certainly.
You know, Oswald and White knew each other.
Geneva recalls being introduced to Lee Oswald a few months later, a few months before the assassination, at a rifle range near Grand Prairie Naval Air Station, where White and Oswald were practicing marksmanship.
A few weeks later, she saw Oswald in a grocery store near their home in Oak Cliff.
Roscoe also lived in Oak Cliff, so did Oswald.
I saw your friend Lee today, she told Roscoe.
Roscoe became irritated and told her, never mention that name ever again.
When was that?
That is three months before the assassination.
And he's in Oak Cliff.
So that means that he was aware three months before the assassination.
Yes.
Exactly.
Excellent point.
This is interesting.
So, in this period of time, Geneva caught her husband in bed with another woman named Hazel, an act of infidelity that severely strained their marriage.
Rock promised that the affair was over, Geneva recalled.
But when she happened to overhear Jack Ruby mention Hazel's name one night at the Carousel Club, She stopped outside the door of his office and eavesdropped.
She heard Ruby tell her husband, Hazel is the contact.
Ruby said something about how Kennedy had betrayed them, CIA, you know, and went off about the Bay of Pigs.
The longer she listened, the clearer it became to her that her husband and Ruby were talking about the assassination of President Kennedy.
Now, then they say, you know, the magazine goes and talks to a bunch of policemen who worked with Roscoe, and they were like, oh, he was great.
You know, like he never would have participated in anything like that.
They do a whole bunch of debunking there.
We'll skip right past that.
And then, now, literally, less than two years after the assassination, he gets out of the police force.
Pretty young, too.
He's still only, I think, 30 years old.
In the six years that followed, Rock White made a number of unexplained trips to New Orleans and other places.
I was never sure what was happening, Geneva said, but I was raised to let the man do the thinking and not ask questions.
In 1968, White moved his family to To Mountain Home, Arkansas, supposedly to work for the post office, but nobody at the Mountain Home post office remembers him working there.
Their postal employment records don't show it.
Later that same year, the family returned to Dallas.
So he's working, he's still in clandestine operations, but he moves the family back there.
He's like, don't worry, I'm working as a postman.
In the summer of 1971, shortly after Geneva returned from a trip to New Orleans, she suffered an emotional breakdown and was hospitalized.
She had a friend named Jack Shaw who was surprised the family hadn't sought his spiritual guidance.
And this guy gets involved in the story.
He's sort of like a Billy Graham type.
And now, by the time Rock had a better paying job at Eminem Equipment Company, but in September of 1971, he was fatally burned when a leak in the acid line torch flamed up, causing a can of chemicals that was stored under his workbench to explode.
On his deathbed, White told Jack Shaw about the explosion and said, Jack, it was no accident.
Shaw assumed that there would be a criminal investigation, but there wasn't.
Not long after that, Geneva and her two sons moved back to their home in Paris, Texas.
That was the end of Roscoe.
And here we have an emotionally distraught wife, very young Ricky, and Roscoe's all gone.
So for years, things go by and nothing goes on.
And there's a kind of an odd.
Sense in the background there as Ricky's growing up that there's a weird secret about his dad.
So I'll read a little more from this article and then we're going to kick into what the crux of Ricky White's story is as we follow here.
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There's a secret aerospace aspect involved in the assassination that should become the crux of the investigation as we open up the intelligence layers through this period of transparency.
And remember, Transparency works like a window.
It's not going to be there the whole time.
So we need to use it or lose it.
And while we can use it, let's use it.
Before I go any further, Ms. Olivia, what do you got?
Birds, bees, and trees says they definitely killed him.
Roscoe saw the guy leaving before he got back from break.
Also, I believe Roscoe is a badge man and destroys the film The Navy Man, Gordon Arnold, who had a good view and heard the bullets whizz right in back of him.
That is such a.
Yeah, are you going to mention Gordon Arnold?
Gordon Arnold, you know, he was featured in a lot of early researchers' information, and he is in the Men Who Killed Kennedy documentary series by Nigel Turner, where they have a real good.
He's actually in one of the pictures with Badge Man in the background.
But the Mary Mormon picture reveals Badge Man, and there's clearly somebody standing there.
I didn't print out that picture, but I will put that up on our Twitter X account.
Now, Gordon Arnold was just doing his own filming and he was getting shouted at, saying, Get out of that position.
And he's like, Yeah, who are you?
And the guy said, I'm with the Secret Service.
Get out of there.
We know there were no Secret Service agents in the plaza at the time.
They were all in the motorcade and had come off the back of the limousine suddenly for Kennedy to get into the ambush zone.
Now, but by the way, when you get into this, you're going to have to go real deep on the investigation of the Secret Service security stripping that went on in relation to.
President Kennedy, as we saw the same thing in the Secret Service stand down of President Trump when he was running to get back in office last summer.
And we still don't have any good answers about Thomas Matthew Crooks, whose body was very quickly cremated.
And the whole story just sits out there like a strange weirdness some kind of mix of Lee Harvey and Sir Han Sir Han and these other assassins through time.
And Crooks, I have to say, you know, the way that he got in such a high profile position to shoot at President Trump and actually, you know, shoot him in the air, you know, that never would have been allowed under any normal circumstances.
So they allowed him to get into position and they stood down for it.
That also needs to be investigated because you need to shake out those elements in the Secret Service.
And they've been there.
You know, for a good long time.
Not to say there aren't good, very good, self sacrificing Secret Service agents, but we have to be very careful when it comes to the security services about the pressure that is exerted upon them.
What else you got?
Actually, along that line, Lancelot Link says JFK's limousine was a mess and quickly washed down by the Secret Service.
Butler, the assassin's roof, was jet washed by the FBI.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And actually, can you talk about the limousine and all the bullet holes in the.
In the window, in the front window?
Yeah.
Actually, I'm going to finish the Ricky White section and then why don't you remind me on the limo?
Because there are a lot of things with the limo that just show the bullets came from the front.
The doctors, of course, Dr. McClellan and others said that they were entry wounds.
And there's a number of the Parkland doctors who came forward and said that and also said there was intense pressure from above to say something other than that at the time.
But, They all identified the throat wound as an entrance wound and also a shot right above the right temple that blew out the back of the head.
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All those shots came from the front.
No Oswald in the back.
Oswald wasn't even shooting.
They don't have any evidence for him shooting.
They just planted the gun and stuck him in the building that was owned by an experimental aerospace D.H. Bird character who ran Ling Temco Vow, which had all these kind of early versions of flying discs.
You know, uh, it's very interesting to think that the three million dollar investment that Byrd made in LTV, uh, Link Tunko Vote at the time, just before the assassination, he took over, turned into, and this has been tracked, uh, 55 million by 1965 in 1960s dollars.
So we're talking about a billion dollars basically.
That's a pretty good kickoff and payout.
And this guy became, um, Their company, LTV, became one of the major suppliers of all kinds of aerospace devices for the Vietnam War.
The building itself and the setup for the building and its importance in the middle of all this, it can't be denied that the unusual combinations, as we put in JFK The Final Speech documentary, that when they go by that building, they're going by the building of the cousin of Admiral Byrd.
Of Antarctica fame.
And it is D.H. Byrd who funds all the Antarctica missions.
And in my opinion, all the experimentation for some reason around this advanced technology has an Antarctica stamp.
So those things really open the story up wide.
The other thing that we point out in the documentary is what was President Kennedy going to do?
He was going to meet Dr. Lloyd Berkner at the The Texas to Dallas trademark.
That's where he was headed to be.
He was supposed to be there at 12 30.
The motorcade was running late.
He gets assassinated before he goes there, but the entire setup that he's going to have there when he meets Berkner is rather dramatic.
They have it as a helicopter from Air Force One flying in a flag that he's going to hand to Berkner.
Well, Berkner's main claim to fame, one, is that he went over to Antarctica with Byrd, one in 1929 at the age of 22, and also that he ran the Robertson panel, which is the first CIA investigation.
Into the UFO file.
So, this guy has the Antarctica UFO file stamp, and he's the person who sets up the International Geophysical Year, where suddenly we're in a different era right as soon as that thing kicks in satellites, space stations, and all the rest of it.
So, Berkner was a crucial, crucial figure, and that Kennedy was going to do this incredible, well designed event with him and never got a chance to be there is very important and is a historical omission.
That we don't know anything about it.
That's why I put it in the documentary.
I will say this about Berkner, and it needs to be understood that he wrote a letter to all of his students after the fact saying President Kennedy was to have delivered a speech that was going to have staggering international implications.
So, whatever he was going to say, you know, it's very unusual.
That's why we called it the final speech, and there's a hunt for where that speech went because later they would produce a version of the speech.
Which made Kennedy sound like some kind of a nuclear weapon loving war hawk doesn't make any sense at all.
Something very, very strange about that aspect of his trip.
But again, the Texas School Book Depository, you're dealing with experimental aerospace because of the owner, because LTV makes all kinds of experimental aerospace craft.
One, and two, he's going to meet the Robertson panel UFO file head.
So, You're surrounded everywhere you go in the Kennedy assassination with this aerospace stamp.
If you lead it to its logical conclusion, you're going to find it's the intelligence aspect wrapped in the aerospace agents.
That whole force of influence, that's where we're looking for the origins of the assassination of our 34th president, President Kennedy.
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Are you ready?
Back to Ricky White.
Ricky, if you're out there listening, I'd love to talk to you, and I would love to get you on Luna's panel.
I think your story is important.
Let's keep going.
By the way, Jim Mars spent a lot of time with Ricky and found him completely reliable as a source.
And I had many a conversation about Ricky White with Jim in private.
And he's mentioned also in a couple of interviews as well.
By the late summer of 1990, Ricky had become a minor celebrity for just a short window of a couple of months.
The print media had pretty much dismissed the story after a few days, but Ricky was in demand as a guest on talk shows.
A British producer named Nigel Turner had brought a film crew from New York to document the story.
Unfortunately, that never made it in.
Ricky was always escorted by one of the founders of the JFK assassination information center.
And this becomes a weird story because everyone who gets involved with the Ricky White story in that early 90s period, they set up a Kennedy Center, they do all this stuff.
All those people die mysteriously, three of them.
And Ricky White sort of backs off from the spotlight.
But let me tell you, it's very strange.
If you want to talk about mysterious deaths associated with the JFK assassination, the Warren Commission waive the church.
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Committee wave, the House Assassination Committee wave, and of course the Assassination Record Review Board wave, but then the Ricky White wave is also very, very pronounced.
So there was something right in the heart of this that someone didn't like.
Ricky was invited to New York to appear on the Morton Downey television show, and his wife complained that she didn't get to go.
Wait, I was there the day we found the journal, she said, but no one ever asked me about it.
Ricky tried to placate Tricia, but privately he believed she was being unreasonable.
He said Geneva was also a problem, but for the moment she seemed content to let Ricky do the talking.
So his family, there's starting to be like a family split on this, because they all feel like they felt it, but Ricky's in the middle of all this.
Ricky and other members of the family discovered a footlocker in 1982 on the day of Geneva's father's funeral.
It contained not only the journal, but Roscoe White's service record.
This is before the story comes out in the early 90s.
And other memorabilia.
It included an unmarked safe deposit key and what appeared to be a receipt for $100,000 in negotiable bonds.
Rookie took the contents of the Foot Locker to his home in Midland and puzzled over them for months.
He studied the photographs from his father's military days and read bits and pieces from the journal, trying to grasp a father who had died before he had a chance to know him.
A few years passed, and Ricky started to read the contents of the diary and started to share it with certain people in the background.
And then, interestingly enough, after all, we're here on the X series.
After his father's death, when an old family friend appeared in their home in Paris, a mysterious packet of photographs was discovered.
The family friend, let's call him Bill X, there you go, had been hiding the packet for Roscoe, or at least that's what Geneva led her children to believe.
Then she locked the packet in a cabinet or bedroom, and no one was allowed to see it.
As a teenager, Ricky knew only that the photographs seemed important to Geneva.
One day, when she was away from the house, Ricky and his friend Lance Nicholson forced open the cabinet and looked at the aging photographs.
They were surprised and a little disappointed to discover that the secret treasure was nothing more than pictures of people, places, and physical evidence connected with the assassination of President Kennedy.
Included in the 40 photographs were a picture of Oswald's naked body on a morgue slab, numerous photos of Oswald's personal possessions, including Selective Service and Marine Service cards issued to Alec Heidel.
Oswald's alias, and a variation of the famous photograph of the smirking Oswald posing in the backyard with a rifle.
These should have been no mystery concerning the origin of the photographs.
In fact, Roscoe White had been assigned to the Identification Bureau of the Dallas Police Department.
Okay, and so it goes on from here.
Now, what happened is Ricky makes a big mistake and he decides, I'm going to give all this stuff to the FBI and they can, you know, backtrack it and all the rest of it.
Big, big mistake there, unfortunately.
Now, a few months after Ricky first viewed the photographs, something else happened that deepened the enigma.
Two men broke into the White Home in Paris, Texas.
They beat up Geneva and took, among other things, the packet of pictures to Washington.
No, I'm sorry.
The men were arrested a few days later in Florida on an unrelated charge, and the FBI agents sent the pictures to Washington, where they were turned over to the Senate Intelligence Committee, which was investigating the government's relation to the intelligence community.
The packet was eventually returned to Geneva, but the mystery didn't end there.
In December 1976, the staff members from the House Select Committee on Assassination showed up at Geneva's home in Paris and again collected the packet of photographs that Roscoe White has of Oswald and all these Kennedy associated things and other items of potential evidence, including a rifle stock that had belonged to Roscoe White.
Shortly before the House Assassinations Committee report was issued in 1979, The old family friend Bill X approached Ricky outside a grocery store in Paris, Texas, and told him confidentially that the report would name his father as one of the conspirators.
People in Paris believe that the mysterious Bill X was a former agent of naval intelligence.
At any rate, his story ended up not coming to fruition.
Ricky forgot the incident until the night he read his father's journal entry for November 22, 1963.
In the weeks that followed, Ricky spoke of the journal to several close friends and acquaintances, but none of them actually saw the book.
The only people who saw it were Ricky, his mother, his wife, and a woman named Denise Carter, who read parts of the journal while babysitting Ricky and Tricia's two children.
Ricky also told his story to Midland District Attorney Al Scherr.
He wanted Scherr to give him legal advice and to help the bank, allocate the bank that went with the safe deposit box key from the footlocker.
Shore's chief investigator, J.D. Luckey, made several trips to Dallas but couldn't find the bank.
In the meantime, Shore told the FBI what Rickey told him.
In January of 88, two FBI agents hauled Rickey and the contents of the Footlooker into their office in downtown Midland, questioned him for five hours, copying some of the material and making an impression of the safe deposit key.
All of his belongings were returned, but later that same day, the agents came back to Rickey's house, supposedly to retrieve a notebook he had accidentally placed with other material.
As soon as they turned around, Ricky and Trisha discovered the journal was missing.
Agents at the FBI categorically deny that they stole Roscoe White's journal.
This is very important because there's a history tie in here.
There's a number of people in this family who saw this thing.
Roscoe White was active in the Dallas Police Department.
If the Luna Committee and Patel at the FBI can't get their hands on this diary, I think it could be a very interesting flashpoint in all of this.
But they certainly should make the effort to find out what was going on with the FBI visits and the absconding of the diary.
Now, there's a series of events associated with this that tell me that the Ricky White story actually is not only credible, but that Roscoe White's involvement seems like a natural fit.
Once Ricky White comes out, the three people who are trying to help him, Who are in that JFK group, as I said, they all pass away very quickly within a year and a half.
That also seems quite strange.
And then there's a person that gets thrown into the mix who's sort of a flim flam artist.
And with all the various materials and things, he runs off with all those materials, being the PR agent, and then sues Ricky for defamation or whatever it is.
And the whole thing goes under.
But the question is what does this tell us about the nature of the Roscoe White involvement in the Kennedy assassination?
I think that there's a big and largely overlooked clue in the middle of this story.
And finally, the last thing that he found was the mother said there was a grandparent's house that was abandoned, and she felt sure that Roscoe had left some other material there.
What he found when he went there was his Marine Corps father's dog tags, negatives full of family photographs, and newspapers pictured.
And pasted over pages, and three cables protected in protective plastics.
The cables professed to be orders from naval intelligence using Roscoe White's serial number.
A cable dated October 1963 instructed Mandarin that his next assignment was to eliminate a national security threat to worldwide peace.
At the bottom of the cables was the code name RE rifle, which was strikingly similar to an actual CIA programmed MZR rifle.
If you're familiar with William Harvey, who was the master of assassination in the Kennedy era, his whole program was about ZR Rifle, an ultra secret CIA project during the Kennedy administration.
The Green Book was known as the Witness Elimination Book, as it came to be called.
This frightened Ricky White more than all the other pieces of evidence put together.
Now, this is a second batch here of information that he came across after the first batch was taken by the FBI and some of it by this Flimflam guy.
Now, there was some sort of ghoulish scrapbook apparently compiled at random and embellished with numerical codes and hieroglyphics.
Inside the front cover was his father's name, serial number, and the words players or witnesses.
Pasted next to each page were old newspaper photographs, some easily identifiable Ruby Oswald, John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, but others were faces without names.
One of the more obscure faces turned out to be the late Perry Raymond Russo.
Isn't that interesting?
Now, Rousseau, of course, is the key witness in the Garrison case against Clay Shaw, but for some reason his picture is in Roscoe White's notebook.
Of course, now, written below a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald's were the words Big mouth, you talked after all.
On another page was a copy of the famous Mary Mormon photograph taken an instant when the president was shot.
An X drawn over the spot behind the stockade fence marked the place where Mandarin would have stood.
Below the picture were the words, Mandarin kills K. Mandarin 7.65 Mauser in assassination.
For three days after the assassination, the Dallas police, district attorney, and even the CIA believed the murder weapon was a Mauser.
The contents of the canister stunned Ricky White, and so on the whole thing goes.
And eventually, Ricky White, through going through this Dirty laundry cycle in the media retreats from public life, and that's the end of the Roscoe White, Ricky White story.
We never see them resurfaced again.
And all of the, interestingly enough, all of the figures around that, as I said, three of them died and the others just spirited away into other projects.
And Ricky went back.
I think he started a construction company.
He did talk to Jim Mars, I think, I'm trying to think, it's like 2012, somewhere in there.
But he did not want to get back into all of this.
What's interesting, I found, was that.
When this whole thing came up, Oliver Stone, I guess, heard something about it and donated $5,000 to something to help support Ricky's mother, who was dying.
So that's interesting that Stone investigated it right around the period when his movie came out.
Now, there's more, of course, in the middle of all this, but I want to get us oriented now around how this relates.
To the larger picture of the forces that were behind the assassination of President Kennedy on that November day in 1963.
And so we're going to get into that next.
But before I do, you're up.
So, I mean, what's your interpretation?
This is a dead man's switch?
Yes, no question.
What's interesting is that I think the, again, why the story rings so authentic is some of the things in the scrapbook, like Perry Russo, it's just, you know, somehow.
It's very knowledgeable insight because remember, this is before the movie came out.
The other thing I think that's interesting about the Oswald picture is you talked after all.
Well, you know, Oswald was in hours and hours of interrogation and no one took any notes, which is pretty weird for a murder suspect that they wouldn't do that.
But they said, oh, we couldn't have a stenographer.
Things were too crazy.
Yeah, well, that means everything that he said wouldn't stand up in court.
Why would they waste their time talking to him without a stenographer?
Yeah, it makes no sense.
Yeah.
Now, it is interesting, too, that if the thing said that he talked, maybe he did.
Maybe he said, I'm an intelligence agent, let me go.
So, a lot of questions raised there, not a lot of answers.
And, you know, it's not like Ricky White knows all these things, but what he does know is what he saw and what the diary was about.
So, there are those very strong links.
There could be the presence of the diary among Impounded evidence in a JFK FBI department.
And we know that the FBI suddenly found 2,400 files that were associated with the assassination out of the blue two weeks ago.
So, this is what I think Patel and Luna and some of this push around transparency could start with, which is some of this.
And I do hear now that we are supposed to get the George Joannetti's files.
And I want to do a little section on this here, but before I do, you're up.
Okay, CC says Isn't Oswald watching from the street level, the book depository, massive shooting?
Then he went to the movie for air conditioning.
How can that be right either?
Yeah, there were people who saw him on the second floor with a Coke and all that.
And there were people who said, you know, they thought they saw him right there on the stairway during the assassination.
Junk Conspiracy About Jackie00:07:11
But then that was Billy Lovelady.
And we know it's very odd.
This is the strange thing about Lovelady.
Lovelady is such a mysterious character because he's on parole for money laundering.
So, already, it's kind of strange.
Like, you know, if you have a record like that, it's easy to leverage against you.
That's one.
Two, he looks exactly like Oswald.
I mean, he's pretty much the spitting image of Oswald, especially from a distance.
So, we have someone right in the building itself who serves as a function of a double.
And the last thing is that during that period when the Kennedy thing was coming back in the 70s and there were all these investigations of CIA atrocities and their assassination of foreign leaders that were now being investigated for the Kennedy assassination, Billy Lovelady expressed to his girlfriend, you know, she said, Don't you want to watch this?
And he said, No, I'm worried they're going to call me because there is a secret about the assassination and I don't want to go before any of those committees.
So he indicated to her, without telling her what it was, something that he knew.
So even Lovelady had a little bit of foreknowledge about the whole thing.
Let's get a little bit into some forces around the assassination here.
And then we're going to bring in the advanced technology aerospace aspect and see how these things connect for us and relate them to three documents here.
Directly from this new data release.
How does that sound?
Okay, go for it.
You got one more.
Okay, this is important.
Happy Hermit 3D says if Roscoe knew of the plot three months before, then the announcement with Berkner on November 22nd was not the trigger for the plot.
Of course, there were also other attempts to take Kennedy out, like in Florida, which was a few weeks, a couple weeks before Dallas.
Yes.
You know, it's very interesting.
Among my souvenirs here today, I have a statement I'm going to read a little later from Abraham Bolden.
Very interesting.
I'm glad you bring that.
I did have a question about that.
Oh, good, good.
Okay.
But yeah, what was the question again?
Oh, my God.
I erased my question.
Okay.
Well, Bolden, I will say this about Bolden, which is recently, you know, Jack Schlossberg, who is Carolyn Kennedy's son.
And the grandson of JFK, who's often seen out there doing these weird rants against Bobby Jr. and saying, you know, oh, he's obsessed with the assassination and, you know, don't talk about it and all this stuff.
And there's a weird strain of the Kennedy family that feels if you just don't talk about it, the deep state will leave you alone and you can go forward and do your thing.
But that hasn't worked.
And that's not a reasonable position.
Any secret.
When you get into that nature of secrecy, the secrecy builds on itself until it becomes an untenable kind of situation, which is what we find ourselves with here.
Now, in the previous episode, I brought up some things about Jacqueline Kennedy and how there were tapes that were held off.
And these tapes related to conversations that she had with a journalist named William Manchester.
She spoke shortly after the assassination.
By the way, there's been a lot of junk conspiracy about Jackie and real junk conspiracy about her being in on the plot and all this stuff.
And also, you know, or shooting Jack herself.
That's so stupid.
Just like the driver did it, it's all, you know, that is junk conspiracy.
I want to reiterate these dark journalism rules, and this might help us to get rid of the pop click engagement farming BS that's out there around this stuff.
So, here's how dark journalism works you have the official story, the official stories put forward by the establishment to cover themselves and put out by their minions like the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the whole rest of that corporate media structure, which is really a state media structure.
Then you have the secondary story, which is researchers, investigators, professors.
They say, well, that doesn't add up.
This isn't true.
You know, the Peter Dale Scots of the world.
And that's really like dark journalism.
And then the establishment is nervous about people catching on to that, as very often they do, and they are.
Just like during the whole period here of 60 years after the Kennedy assassination, there's still over 70,000.
Over 70% of the population doesn't believe Oswald and the official story and all that.
They know that he's a patsy and that the whole thing was set up by the government.
So the CIA has never been able to change that.
They've had all of these specials.
No matter what they say, nothing changes on that.
So what they do is they put out a junk conspiracy.
And junk conspiracy also creates obfuscation.
That is, if I start blaming this thing or that thing and I just roll them all into some conspiracy burrito, Then people look at it and they're like, you know, I can't go any further with it.
I'm just going to go back to the official story because I, you know, there's too many things for me to consider here.
And that is the junk conspiracy that's put out there.
And when you see things that are clickbait oriented about drivers or JFK, Jackie, and all that stuff, you have to be able to identify it, take a picture of it in your head, and say, that's the third force.
That's the junk conspiracy.
What you want is to break down that official story.
And understand the secondary story.
And then dark journalism sees the junk conspiracy come in.
And the junk conspiracy is put out by the very same people who put out the top story, the first story of the official story, because they put their own crazy theories out there so you'll never get anywhere close to it.
That's where flat earth and all that stuff comes from.
So you have to be able to walk through that minefield of information and get to the truth.
With it, and uh, there's lots of you know, um, areas, there's lots of roots to the truth, and there's lots of different types of research and all the rest of it.
I don't think anyone should get too one dimensional, and you should always be able to let go of any particular theory or thing that you've devised.
Big Media Funding Independent Truth00:02:41
But, um, identification of things that really take you off the path, you know, and things that especially seem like they come up in a whole you know, wave, and that if that wave is very often funded by groups.
Who wants to get you off the real track?
That's where I see a lot of this, you know.
And I've pointed out things like Candace Owens and stuff.
You know, this thing, this whole thing that she goes into really going over a cliff, I see a lot of it and I see that it's very well funded and it's put out there.
So, whether that's just an oversight on those people's parts or whatever it happens to be, there's a lot of money and a lot of influence behind this kind of pop click.
Engagement farming BS version of independent media.
So, what I'm looking at is paid media one, which is the corporate media, state media, protecting secrets, CNN and MSNBC, and the whole bit.
But then this paid media two, which masquerades now as independent media, like what we're doing here with you.
One of the things I pointed out is that, you know, the Tucker Carlson show and other shows of Fox personalities have come into this space and not even like they report on.
On things badly.
Some of the reports are good.
But Tucker Carlson's show has 45 people working on it.
Megyn Kelly's show has six different producers.
So these things, although they're kind of put out there as independent media, they're just the big media come into the small space.
And not even to throw shade at those people, but just to get us to understand it.
So we have to understand there's a big difference between that media and real independent media.
So that needs to be kept in mind when we go down through this.
And now there's going to be big media that tells some truth, and there's going to be shades of gray in between.
But I do think it's important that when we think about what is actually independent media and how they've pushed all this stuff into independent media because they realize, oh, the mainstream media doesn't have any credibility.
There was a thing that happened there about Bilderberg in 2022 after the COVID stuff had really hit and they were losing a lot of credibility.
Through the things that were happening because the op was being exposed by so many good doctors and other things, that the instructions in 2022 were to regain confidence.
Government Disinformation Environment00:10:12
Now, I think one of the classic people around this, and we can use as an example just briefly, is Jack from Twitter.
And Jack was running Twitter at that time.
He was the guy who, during 2020, had blocked the Hunter Biden story from being put out there and had zapped.
President Trump's Twitter account, which is remarkable because Trump was still the president at the time.
You know, control of our entire nuclear arsenal, you're going to shut off his Twitter account?
I mean, this was a real red line crosser.
And then, only within a year and a half, right after that Bilderberg meeting in 2022, and after he had left the spotlight as the leader of Twitter, suddenly he's on there saying, We need freedom.
We need to expose the CIA, smash it into a million pieces, all this stuff.
So, they knew how to take these puppet people and masquerade them.
It's just like in the UFO threat environment.
I've talked about it, but I think we really need to get it, which is in that environment, the Elizondo people, the Mellon people, Jim Semivan, they're all lifers in that intelligence world.
They're all paid in that intelligence world.
That's where their jobs are.
They're going to work.
And so, when they sit there and they say, that government needs to get us the truth, and when they want to be on these panels about the UFO file and getting UAP truth and all that, They are the government.
So it needs to be very clearly understood on our side that you cannot put the same amount of faith into them.
We've had, you know, what, seven years of reporting on these people.
So we need to get that, I think, when we get.
In this environment, it is a disinformation environment.
And there are ways to get at the real truth in relation to these things, but we have to see agents of influence who are clearly identified.
I mean, I can demonstrate that Elizondo has worked with the Central Intelligence Agency for 25 years.
You know, Semivan, three decades, the top.
He was the top officer, you know, so, and so he's still working.
And, you know, that's fine if that's the job that he has, but I don't want the public to think it's anything else.
You know, the public should know.
Who these people are, and then they can judge for themselves.
But clearly, they're pushing a false UFO threat narrative.
And so, when we get around the JFK information, it's also important to know exactly what we're talking about in terms of real independent media.
So, you know, the deep state's biggest secret is the assassination of President Kennedy and what it was over.
So, you know, we're talking about.
The crux there.
And once you penetrate into the actual heart of that story, you send a tremendous earthquake through that entire deep state structure and the whole power structure that we're talking about here for the 21st century.
Yeah, what do you got?
T2Brider says there's a new batch of limited hangout graduates from, quote, central casting that have stepped into the spotlight recently.
Styling, association, and motives send the red flags flapping.
I also wanted to comment.
I've mentioned this before on the show that I was part of a.
A little bit of a cult, not a religious cult, but an achievement cult, I call it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
For a short period of time.
And that was such a useful experience for me.
Sure.
Because the way that a cult gets you is that they give you a lot of truth, things that you think are useful, but it's all self serving and it twists you and they want your allegiance, your obedience, and all this stuff.
And it's, you know, I see it everywhere nowadays.
So, you know, some people can't understand.
They think if somebody's telling truth over here, That they can't do, that they must be, yes, right?
They must be all good and going, let's, you know, keep one foot outside the circle.
Oh, yeah, it's an excellent point.
The other thing is that I don't think, see, it's very important not to be cynical too.
So, this is the weirdness about it all.
It's, there's a way to sift through it.
That's why understanding those three different levels that I outlined is important because I don't think the goal is to be cynical of anything that comes up or to not trust anybody.
That's not what I'm talking about.
But I do feel.
That there's a major effort afoot right now, and it's a co opting effort.
It has to be identified if you're going to keep the truth in the mix here.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show, this is X Series 194.
It's the JFK files CIA secret space UFO menace.
Yes, there's a secret space aspect.
After all, Kennedy was at the heart of this battle over two parallel space programs, as we've demonstrated, and the blue.
Aspect of that program is still something that they used in the background.
That's the program that needs to be penetrated when we do these special investigations.
And if you get into that blue program, which we identified in spring of 2023, and then the government had to admit it by 2024, that's when, you know, things really, that's the genuine thing.
None of this phony, what was it called?
Immaculate.
Constellation?
Good Lord.
I know I'm so tempted to use other language there, but I'm telling you, you know, that was the biggest bomb in history.
And they had all this whole, you know, Nancy Mace thing and Schellenberger and all that nonsense.
And he was getting fed all this junk, you know.
And I like to say about guys like Schellenberger, I don't know anything about him, but, and I wish him well.
It's just that the minute suddenly he adopted the UFO thing and it was a pop click kind of situation because it didn't seem like he had any background in it at all, which is part of the problem with a lot of these people.
It's like they do a little research over a weekend and they run away on X with it.
Now, look, Schellenberger, as soon as he got interested in the subject, he put out a few things about it.
And he said, You know, so weird.
This is so great because as soon as I got into this, 12 different Intel officials got in touch with me and said, You're really on to something.
We're going to help you.
You know, and you expect to get real answers from those people.
I don't know.
See, I think that a lot of these researchers need to go back and study people like Professor Scott, people like Mars.
People like Brussels, because they, the deep state researchers, understand the Central Intelligence Agency and its pernicious influence on journalism.
And you can't go around arm in arm with CIA people and think you're telling the truth.
It doesn't work that way.
Those people are trained liars.
There's a reason for that, which is that's what the profession is, you know.
But you cannot embrace those intel narratives and think you're getting anywhere near the truth.
Come on.
So calling it out and saying, well, that's CIA disclosure.
That's a totally different thing.
That has nothing to do with the real thing.
But, you know, News Nation wants to run things on the UFO file.
And they're like, so and so was in the CIA for 20 years.
Oh, let's talk to him.
He's the expert.
You know, Tucker was like, oh, I have Lou Elizondo on Speed Dial.
I cover UFOs.
You know, Tucker is an interesting one because I think he wants to get to the truth on some things, but he doesn't have the background on the UFO file.
He's fed a lot of nonsense from the wrong intel end of the spectrum.
So that's a very, very important one to watch.
And we watch it very closely in this program, as we have pledged from the beginning.
That's what we do.
What do you got?
Tony R., what about Barr McClellan's book, Blood, Money, and Power, How LBJ Killed JFK?
I've only read half of this book, but I've gotten past the assassination.
There's no mention of CIA involvement so far.
You talked to Barr McClellan.
Sure, yeah, yeah.
I like Barr very much.
Barr, who cried during your interview.
He did.
He did.
And.
You know, I probably will have a deep interview with Barr again.
It was weird because we did a very long session and the recording got destroyed, which is very rare in the work that I do.
But Barr definitely was, you know, one of those LBJ firm lawyers and he heard all kinds of things and knew all kinds of things.
And in 2003, he was part of that wave of disclosure through Nigel Turner's work that got that entire video.
Documentary series banned in the United States.
It's funny you brought up LBJ, and I'm glad you did because I have a whole section here about LBJ I want to get into now.
And then we're going to get to the final aerospace piece with the files, and then we'll move to your questions.
Okay.
We're running late here, everyone, but it's great to be here with everyone.
What a huge crowd we have, and it's so great to be with you out there in the ideas room.
I know that people in the ideas room want the potent, real information because those are the types of things people send me things all the time.
And so I appreciate that back and forth that we have there.
And I'll tell you, I think a lot of the censorship is to destroy these types of conversations because they're not, you know, pop click engagement farming conversations.
They're the real thing.
And you can take this information to the bank.
It's not somebody's opinion, you know, and there's some opinion aspects in there, but for the most part, no, it's just the solid facts.
All right.
This is interesting.
ABC Tapes and Jackie's Suspicions00:12:23
There was a guy who.
He put this out on Twitter and it was very interesting.
I think it came out of George magazine, but it's a real article.
And I'm just going to read this briefly.
It's Jackie told him his father was murdered.
It's about John F. Kennedy Jr.
And it says Jackie Kennedy Onassis told her son that power hungry VP Lyndon Johnson ordered the execution of his boss, President John F. Kennedy, so he could seize control of the White House.
Although she acknowledged she had no proof, Jackie told John her gut instinct was LBJ killed his father and covered it up with the help of high government officials and mobsters.
Kennedy family member reveals she often told us she suspected LBJ because he'd learned JFK and his brother Bobby planned to drop him from the presidential ticket in the second term election.
That would have ended Johnson's career.
So he struck first.
Jackie was relatively open about her suspicions.
John's first, John Jr.'s first girlfriend at Phillips Academy, Meg Azzoni, remembers joining the widow and her son for breakfast while he visited Caroline at Radcliffe.
Very close by here.
Jackie told John and I at the breakfast, I did not like, quote, she said, I did not like or trust Lyndon Johnson.
Recalls Azoni.
No one said another word the whole meal in memorial silence.
As he got older, John began to share his mother's mistrust of the Texas based politician.
The family members say JFK Jr. eventually recalled a conversation between his mother and his uncle Bobby, who thought he was sleeping when they discussed the assassination, and who Who it was that was pulling the strings.
During their talk, the two adults fingered Johnson as the mastermind behind the murder and feared he'd kill again if it became necessary to cover his tracks.
This was in 1968.
Bobby was gunned down in 1968, and after that slaying, the sole surviving Kennedy brother, Ted, seemed to lose his appetite for unraveling the bloody conspiracies.
Ted ward off JFK Jr., but the young man. Was determined to seek justice, telling a family member, I'll expose my father's death no matter what and who they are, even if I have to bring down the government.
Now, the reason why that's all very plausible, first of all, the Kennedy family source and the friend went on record there, is in something I've revealed, and I read a little bit of this last week, I'm just going to reiterate this.
Explosive Jackie O'tapes reveal how she believed Lyndon Johnson killed JFK.
This was a major, major story in 2011.
And I mentioned in the last show, it came from a series of tapes that were left behind there at the Kennedy Library, and they were supposed to be revealed 75 years after the assassination or upon the death.
If both of her children were dead, then she could let this tape out.
Onassis believed that LBJ and a cabal of Texas tycoons were involved in the assassination of her husband, John F. Kennedy.
Explosive recordings are set to reveal.
It's August 8th, 2011.
These tapes were going to come out.
She became convinced that then vice president, along with the business in the South, had orchestrated the Dallas shooting.
More stories around that period.
Secret tapes revealed Jackie Kennedy believed LBJ was behind the assassination.
There were hundreds of these stories.
Now, what happened, as I mentioned, was there was a mini series that was coming out that was a real hit job on the Kennedys and salacious everything.
And it was ABC that was going to run it.
And Caroline offered to reveal the tapes early if they wouldn't run this terrible miniseries.
And they agreed.
There was some deal that was struck.
Now, a little more from the article Texas born Johnson served as the state's governor.
He didn't, he only served as the senator.
So they got that wrong.
It was John Connolly that was the governor.
Completed Mr. Kennedy's term and went on to be elected president in his own right.
The tapes were recorded with leading historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr. within months of the assassination on November 22, 1963, and have been sealed in a vault in the Kennedy Library in Boston.
There's also a series of interviews she did with William Manchester, and through a lawsuit, Manchester had to keep those files secret for 100 years after the lawsuit was over in 1967.
So those files don't come out until 2067.
Mrs. Kennedy went on to marry Greek shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis.
She had ordered that the records should not be released until 50 years after her death, with some reports suggesting she feared the revelations might make her family's target for revenge.
She died in 1994.
Now, there's a lot of things that are interesting there.
So here's what happened.
As this negotiation was going on, They hired two people to do transcripts of the tapes.
One of the people who was doing the transcript leaked information because she was so sort of freaked out by what she was hearing, and all these newspapers picked up on it.
Now, when Caroline gave the tape to ABC and they didn't run the thing, ABC released these little observations of how Jackie was uncomfortable in the White House and how she wanted an extra Rose Garden, you know, I mean, this stuff.
They completely wiped out memory hold, the entire thing about LBJ and all these things that got revealed.
Now, check this out.
Remember, August 2011th, a program featuring the tapes will be aired by U.S. network ABC, and it's understood British broadcasters are in talks to show it here, too.
ABC executives claim the tapes' revelations were explosive.
Do you think wanting an extra rose garden is explosive?
They're believed to include the suggestion that Mr. Kennedy was having an affair with a White House intern.
And so on.
And then there's a whole thing about Caroline.
Now, Caroline agreed to the early release of the tapes in exchange for ABC dropping the $10 million drama series about the family.
The Kennedys, starring Tom Cruise's wife, Katie Holmes, as Jackie, critically charted the family's political and personal trials and tribulations.
The series was eventually broadcast to an independent cable channel against Caroline's wishes.
A spokesman for ABC said the claims about the content of the tapes were erroneous.
He said, The actual content of these tapes provides unique, important insight into our recent past from the most fascinating and influential First Lady in America.
So, all the comments, everything, the whole thing got whitewashed.
There was some deal there and a lot of weirdness.
And one of the things I mentioned is shortly after that, when the terrible Boston bombing marathon happened in 2013.
The tapes, or the Kennedy Library, had an explosion during that same period, and it was a mysterious fire.
The police dealt with it, and the fire department dealt with it as if it was part of this series of bombings associated with the marathon.
Something strange took place in relation to that, and it's just been buried.
It's been covered up.
You want to talk about the Carlisle Group?
I did.
I mentioned that last time.
For people who didn't watch, I could go deeper and deeper into it.
But yeah, the Carlisle Group got involved.
Financially, with rescuing the Kennedy Library shortly after that.
And we know that that's basically, you know, George Bush's favorite affiliate.
But I do want to say that I appreciate the Kennedy Library and the staff there have always been really great to me.
And I've spent a lot of time in there.
They've helped me with a lot of research.
So certainly the staff and the organization is fantastic.
What happened on the upper echelons in relation to Kennedy and the tapes that were stored there is very interesting.
And I think that those tapes were removed into the custody of ABC, who whitewashed the contents of those tapes.
And that goes directly to that LBJ question.
Now, do I think LBJ was behind the assassination?
No, I don't.
I think LBJ, with the intelligence community, remember LBJ is also an aerospace figure.
He's known as Senator NASA.
And his co conspirator, pulling the strings for all the aerospace money when he was in the Senate, Was Harry Byrd, the Virginia senator.
Between the two of them, they ran all the purse strings for NASA.
So the imprint of aerospace around LBJ and Byrd is massive.
So when Kennedy is assassinated, all of LBJ's legal troubles go away.
And he is headed to prison, there's no question about it, through the Bobby Baker and Billy Celeste scandals.
So those things are true, and he's ideal.
To be placed in there, and he's ideal to sell out to the intel groups for this.
And I certainly feel in relation to LBJ that he resented Kennedy and he wanted the presidency at any price.
And he certainly, if he felt he could be president or go to jail, he certainly signed up for the program.
But it's the Central Intelligence Agency and the X Protect Aerospace Wing inside of that that manages the ultra secret UFO file.
Who are ultimately responsible for that assassination?
And I have other things I'm going to dive into, but we're going to do it in the context of your questions to stay on schedule with that, Miss Olivia.
Europe.
Okay.
All right.
So Mike Maxey says Is the entire hypothesis that a UFO file is the only reason JFK was eliminated?
Well, no, you have to understand the UFO file represents.
Now, when you get into the UFO file, you're dealing with what?
The ultimate technology.
So it's a higher secret than nuclear weaponry.
Those are excellent sources that tell us that.
So what are you dealing with?
You're dealing with centralized power.
With advanced technology.
So you can't just say, oh, you know, it's over UFOs or whatever.
You have to understand what the UFO file represents to the deep state.
They've kept it off the radar for what it actually is.
They've made people just think about it in terms of, you know, Independence Day or something like that or the Grays or whatever.
But it represents an entirely advanced technology in the hands of a very small group.
The Apotheum Effect and Higher Secrets00:06:43
And we've exposed aspects of it, including the apotheum effect.
And the apotheum effect is such a kind of torsion, reality distortion physics that's involved.
And you can get that.
All you have to do is go back and read our old friend John Mack, who passed away under mysterious circumstances, but he was the Harvard psychiatrist professor who really got into this.
And when he had these groups who had been abducted, he spent years figuring out those stories.
I was lucky enough to meet him and the groups around him and the people who were working with him back then.
I was like 18 years old.
And what you find out is everything defies physics.
This is the thing that he was amazed by.
And he said, Well, actually, they're going through walls.
I'm going to read you a weird story.
This is a little off topic.
And I know we said we go into questions, but I promise I'll make this quick.
Because I've been trying to fit this in.
Because it's just so apothecary and it's so next door.
It happened in New Hampshire.
Are you ready?
Excellent.
And this will be a funny one.
You'll get a kick out of this.
All right.
Teens survive a weird ordeal with a UFO that levitated their car.
This is a story from 2010.
And I have a very weird follow up for this.
Two teens in New Hampshire claimed they were sitting innocently in their car when a UFO levitated their entire vehicle.
Moved at 180 feet, then dropped it.
The car did look beaten up, but was it aliens?
Here's their story.
This is a local New Hampshire newspaper.
The encounter took place earlier this week.
Above you can see the pictures of the car's shattered windshield, below the skid marks on the grass where the UFO dropped the car.
Here is the report one teen filed.
My name is E, and I'm 18 years old.
I live in Laconia.
Last Saturday night, my boyfriend Dee came up to see me, and we went out.
When we got to Blacked out.
In Laconia, we parked in the back of the separate parking lot.
We turned off the car, and it was totally silent.
We were just sitting there, and I looked up at the moon.
I saw this weird black shaped object.
And then I said to my boyfriend, What was that?
He looked up and said, If it gets any closer, we need to leave.
That's pretty good advice.
I kept staring at the moon to see if it was just a plane or something.
It moved back across the moon.
It was huge, and it looked like it was zigzagging or changing shape.
I couldn't tell.
He said, I think it's coming closer.
It flew so fast over the trees, getting closer to where we were, it felt like it was zeroing in on us.
It blocked the moon, and then we started panicking and driving away.
I thought we're going to hit the bingo building.
We turned left, but it felt like we went off on a jump.
Do you know that feeling?
It's like we were on a roller coaster.
We were in the air.
I was trying to pay attention to everything that was going on, but it felt like I couldn't.
This was unreal.
When I looked up, everything was black.
The smell was not nice, but it was like something you could stand.
It was an odor I've never smelled before, though.
I heard absolutely nothing.
It was silent.
I felt immobilized, like I had no control over what I was doing, over my body.
I could see nothing.
It was like opening your eyes in a pitch black room.
I felt really nervous and scared.
I don't remember crying or screaming.
I held on to the center console because I felt like I was lifted.
I was holding on so tight that my thumbprint is imprinted on the center console.
And then when I finally realized what was happening, I was so close to the windshield that my body was going forward and my arms behind me.
Everything was black.
I heard a loud noise like a horn.
And then the car just dropped.
I hit my eye on the dashboard and the airbags came on.
I couldn't believe what just happened.
I held my face and I looked over at my boyfriend.
I saw his left arm had blood.
I said, Are you okay?
And then I noticed the windshield had cracked, but only on the passenger side.
And it goes on.
But there are a series of these encounters that happen where people are taken with the whole car, everything is taken up in one piece.
Now, a lot of weird things happened around this story, including the fact that I got so curious.
I called a series of people up there in Laconia trying to get to the bottom of it back then.
And I remember I went to a, there was actually a UFO conference that happened right around there.
It was actually in Exeter, but it was the next year, I think.
And I talked to Stanton Friedman about it.
And he said, there's a MUFON guy who's a cop who, Investigated the case, you should talk to him.
And I went and talked to the guy, and the guy was very odd the way he talked to me about it.
He said, Well, because they're, you know, he said they weren't 18, but in the story it said they were.
He said, We can't really talk about it or something like that.
And then he said, It's a good thing, too.
Then I got a little more curious because that whole conversation and exchange was so weird.
So I went and talked to, let's say, the grandmother of one of these kids.
And the grandmother said, well, they're telling us not to talk about it because they're accusing one of these kids of robbery.
And I thought, isn't this an interesting way to bury this story?
Frighten the kids and say, you know, you had this experience, here's this car, and now we're going to somehow implicate you.
In a robbery.
And the whole story and the whole thing completely went away.
But this is how certain types of information is buried, and then other groups inside of these structures are able to go study what happened with those people in that case without the public being involved in any way.
Or they could have just blown it off and just let it there.
But there was something strange about this incident and the various things that happened to it.
And trust me, I kept about 10 or 15 articles related to it.
All my notes about the conversations I had with the people around it.
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And this story is like a number of UFO stories, which is the real stuff often gets shut out before we even get a look at it, but particularly the ones that include this apothecary effect.
So keep that in mind.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
This is great.
Astara says, The scent is strange.
Swedenborg, who had Claire Olifaction, often said that foul smells were a telltale sign of the presence of negative entities.
Oh, isn't that interesting?
But look, you get the quote of the night because what's the word?
Claire, clair, olfaction.
There you go.
So it's their olfactory nerves being clairvoyant.
No, but there is actually, isn't that a Yogananda thing where he smells the roses when he sees the guru?
Well, they can make anything smell like anything.
So you can take one of the little tricks in Autobiography of a Yogi he gives him a rose and makes it smell like jasmine.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he gives it to his sister who's extremely confused.
Oh, wow.
You know, there's a story.
About Blavatsky, and she's talking with this woman in New York.
She's just come over from Russia, and the woman is also an immigrant, and she misses this particular scent from her village.
She's sitting there in Blavatsky with her rather intense, I don't even know what you would call that ability, but she manifests and she has this whole.
Feeling and she gets the woman gets the sense of the village and that smell.
And I think it was something like Jasmine, too.
Blavatsky did all kinds of very strange things like that, including according to Henry Alcott, who's a very level headed guy, even though he became her partner in Theosophy.
He was a very kind of grounded, down to earth guy.
He was a colonel, for heaven's sake.
And during Lincoln's period of time, and he actually served on.
You know, kind of the Warren Commission of its time investigating the Lincoln assassination.
Then he ended up doing all of these kind of seance investigations and things, and he met Blavatsky.
But he said Blavatsky could produce things, like she could produce bananas out of midair, and she could make it rain in a room or something.
I mean, the manifestation qualities that she had.
And often he would say, I don't know what it is.
Is it some kind of hypnosis or whatever?
But he learned that she could do this whole thing.
You know, ethereal production.
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This is it.
Could she do it or could she ask the avatars to do it for her?
Is the question.
Did she have the power or did they choose to bless her with what she asked for?
Sure.
Well, she certainly was the vehicle.
But it's a good point.
Yeah.
What do you got?
Okay.
So let me see where I want to go.
Quad 57.
What was the significance of Officer Tippett in the assassination?
Well, here's another policeman.
Again, the Dallas police.
You know, they have to, there has to be some element in the Dallas police to make this stuff work.
Wherever you are in the assassination plot, you're going to need certain elements on board with you.
You know, Garrison made an excellent point.
I have some good quotes of his tonight that I'll read.
But Garrison said if you're going to do this, you have to have certain elements of the media on board with you immediately.
So, to prevent the wrong stories from getting out.
So, that's part of the setup.
But the other thing is, The Dallas police had to have this strain in there that could, you know, hold Oswald for one crime while building up the second crime against him.
So, the Tippett thing was the thing to hold him for.
They didn't accuse him of assassinating the president, remember, until six hours later.
So, they needed the crime to hold him, and you needed that kind of manipulation of justice.
The Tippett thing is unusual because the real stories about Tippett, never mind the traditional story about a cop car rolling up to a guy and getting shot, but the stories over and over again is that he was desperately outside of his zone, though.
Oak Cliff was not his area.
And he was desperately looking for Oswald.
He was looking for something.
He went into this one store looking for him.
He stopped a car and busted their doors open looking for him.
So he was looking for Oswald in all of these different places as if he knew he had to get him before he did this other thing.
Now, there was a guy involved in the Ricky White story who did an incredible overview of, and he was the ultimate expert in the Tippett case.
He proved that none of the official story about Tippett and the Oswald shooting, in fact, that Oswald had walked in a totally different direction.
So he wasn't even where Tippett was.
And there were.
Is this the guy who got killed himself?
Yeah, I'm trying to think if his name was Larry Harris or it's.
I think you're right.
Yeah, he's in actually The Men Who Killed Kennedy in the Oswald episode, that original docuseries from 19.
It started in 1988 and I think went to 2003.
It's like five different installments.
But it's quite fascinating because he had timed it.
He had done all these different things and he had interviewed witnesses who saw something totally different than what the official story was.
And what they said was that there were two people and one of them was overweight.
They shot the cop and ran off in different directions.
So nothing to do with anyone who looked like Oswald.
And then they had this woman who they put forward to identify Oswald.
There's another weird thing, though, there's a guy named Warren Reynolds.
Who observed and followed the person who shot Tippett?
And he said, Oh no, he didn't look anything like Oswald.
Oswald had a receding hairline and all that stuff.
He's like, This guy had real hair, you know, and he was built differently.
And so when they took him to a lineup, he wouldn't identify Oswald as the shooter of Tippett.
Well, this guy goes back to work the next day.
And as he's going into the basement of his job, somebody shoots him.
Now he survives.
And this is what I call local control, you know, because if you have someone who's not going along with the story, then it's a problem, right?
And so it's very strange.
This guy takes a shot and it grazes his head.
He's treated in the hospital for everything.
And then two months later, he goes along and says, well, maybe it was, you know, I was, well, I don't know, you know.
Right.
They straightened about.
But, But his interview, his original interview is very clear, and he followed him.
So, whoever that was that shot Tippett definitely wasn't Oswald, but that was the crime they could hold him for.
Okay, Maureen O'Brien.
Jefferson Davis Tippett was nicknamed JFK, and Alan Dulles said, We might need a spare brain after you know.
We might need a what?
A spare brain.
The question is a lot of people.
Oh, no, no.
Yeah, that's part of the junk conspiracy is that Tippett was a JFK double.
No, no, no.
Just forget about all that.
That was in some documentary a long time ago.
And no, there's just, you know, there's nothing to substantiate any of that.
I mean, this was a cop who was killed.
And it looked like.
What about him, though?
Well, it's a good question.
Remember, he had one of those deep moments with his wife before he left and said, no matter what happens, you know, remember the deep feelings I have for you and all that.
So he knew something was going down and he was involved in the thing.
He was supposed to grab Oswald and something apparently went wrong.
Remember.
Oswald's landlady said that a cop car pulled up after Oswald showed up and beeped the horn at him.
So, you know, something was going on there.
Oswald wasn't supposed to survive that part of things.
He was supposed to, I think, end up at the theater and get shot there.
But when they take him back, it's a big problem.
That's why you have this weird high profile thing.
But you have to remember, and I think the really solid researchers into this know how important.
The presence and the representation of Ruby is.
Because Ruby is easily tracked back to organized crime.
So the presence of Ruby killing Oswald is an important message to organized crime that we can blame you for this anytime.
So you have a whole, you know, it's quite fascinating placing him in there.
But what's fascinating for me is that when you get into the story of Roscoe White, the wife is saying, oh, You know, not only did I work for Ruby, but he was close with Roscoe White.
And we know that Ruby knew every cop on the force.
So it's interesting because that Roscoe White story is loaded.
You know, it's really loaded up with information.
I had something, I had a shot here.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to read this real quick just so we understand something because one of the people that they're calling, Before the Luna committee was saying, Oh, yeah, we know that Oswald had all these communist ties and was a lefty and all this stuff.
Look, Oswald worked for Guy Bannister, who was the ultimate right winger.
So the whole thing is a cover story about him being a leftist.
So if you have your top researchers and people and they're still saying that, then they're still stuck in the brainwashing that they got.
That's not going to go anywhere.
This is his boss.
And you know what he's doing here?
He's laying out UFO sightings because he's the guy for the FBI who runs around tracking UFO sightings.
He's the FBI chief of Chicago and he takes a whole tour of the Pacific Northwest investigating UFO cases.
And he comes up with the whole X nomenclature and everything else.
That's Oswald's boss.
So, Oswald working for the guy who created the UFO X file for the FBI.
You can't, I mean, you can't leave that in history if you're really looking for an answer.
Look, the only guy who brought a trial on the assassination of President Kennedy is Jim Garrison.
And he said the most important witness in our entire investigation was Bannister, but then he died.
And Garrison knew, because they were both in the FBI originally, Garrison knew him when he was investigating UFOs.
Here's a little something.
That is very easily accessible in FBI records.
It is to the FBI director, J. Edgar Hoover, and it's from Butte, Montana.
This is Guy Bannister sending this.
And this is 1947.
Flying disc sighted by Fred Crispman and Harold Dahl.
It's the first major UFO sighting.
You've got Kenneth Arnold and Maury Island, all before Roswell, remember.
Only a month before.
Security matter, he comes up with his own nomenclature, X.
And you can't miss it.
That's Bannister sending it to our friend, J. Edgar Hoover.
So Lee Harvey Oswald works for this guy the summer before the assassination.
There's no way that Oswald's not one associated with aerospace, but two is any kind of a left winger because this guy is to the right of a Tilda Hun.
That historical premise needs to be thrown out.
Oswald's cover was as a leftist.
That was his value to the agency.
In 1947, the FBI's special agent in charge for Butte, Montana, was Guy Bannister.
Now, he was dead by the time the Clay Shaw trial, but suspicion fell on him.
According to Jim Garrison's files on Fred Crispin, who was involved in the Maury Island sighting, but then who Garrison is going to put up on?
As part of the assassination of Kennedy, both Chrisman and Bannister were connected to Sergio Orocha Smith, a leader of CIA backed anti Castro group that Bannister had helped supply with arms.
Now, there's no doubt that the Security Matter X Files are real and they were originated by Guy Bannister.
So, you see how you have to actually, if you're going to get anywhere, you have to understand why is the UFO guy.
Hiring Lee Harvey Oswald.
And if he's this ultimate right winger anti Castro guy, how does he have Oswald handing out pro Castro pamphlets?
So, you know, you can't, it is cognitive dissonance there.
The two don't relate, as it were.
And I have a quick quote.
Let's see if I have it.
It's in, oh, I have some good quotes here.
Oh boy.
This is from my old pal Ken Thomas.
Ken Thomas passed away last year, but he gave us some fantastic, along with Jim Keith, who was his partner in crime, gave us some fantastic investigations around this.
But here's just a quick look on the Bannister part.
A look at recently declassified FBI files for the period 1947 show a number of telexes from Bannister, some with his initials WGB.
All pertaining to the UFO phenomena, as well as other FBI documents within the designation Security Matter X, or simply SMX.
The origin of the author.
This is where the first X-Files were created, which, at least in 1947, did exist at the FBI and was concerned directly with UFOs.
You know, you're going to have to.
That's JFK and UFO.
Very interesting.
Book that cites a lot of things like Kenneth Arnold and other things, and it quotes, it has these long passages of quotes from different people.
Instead of him theorizing things, he's really reproducing other things in that book.
But the crux of it, really, is that Bannister is so deep in that UFO file.
And then if we are looking at him as a very important piece of the JFK assassination, again, you're dealing with the UFO file right.
At the base of the assassination.
And so that has to be kept in mind.
In the previous episode, which is a very important episode, if you haven't checked it out yet, I highly recommend that you do, it's all about Judith Exner.
And Exner is very important because she had a relationship with President Kennedy and she was a beautiful, aspiring actress and all this.
But she was connected to the mob through Frank Sinatra.
And one of the things about Exner that's so important is she was discovered in the 70s because they found 80 calls from her to President Kennedy at the White House.
And so people like Gary Hart, who were on these committees, started to figure out, oh, she was associated with Kennedy.
And they called her before and they said, look, we want you to testify about what was going on there with Kennedy.
And, you know, she said, well, the only way I'll do anything like that is if you keep my name completely.
Out of the books and off the record.
And they said, no problem.
She goes down and does the testifying in 1975.
Her name gets splattered all over the media.
And her story is very straight ahead and simple, which is that as soon as she got into this relationship with Kennedy, he started to use her as part of his human intelligence network, which I've described many times in this program, and still needs to be understood about how Kennedy did business in the world.
But he was using her as an intermediary.
Because he knew that she knew this boss of the underworld, Sam Gincona.
And so they were trading these envelopes back and forth.
So it's a fascinating book, of course, by Seymour Hirsch, who did a number of good books looking into the CIA, busting their operations, and doing a great job.
But then for the book on Kennedy, he took the bait, which is the CIA said, We can give you all this information on Kennedy and all this salacious stuff.
So he worked with the CIA on the book.
That's why it's an atrocious book.
But I will say this about it it has the testimony of Judith Exner in it because he's thinking, the author's thinking, aha, I'll show Sam Giancana trading money with Kennedy and it'll make him look terrible.
Envelopes and Mafia Payoffs00:04:12
But a very interesting thing shows up in the middle of that book.
And by the way, I got to meet Hirsch's son.
He interviewed me for an HBO special and it was a great experience.
And I didn't ask him too much, but I did tell him that.
I thought some of his dad's works before this book were quite good, which is true.
I'm going to read that because it's a little snippet, and I highly recommend you go back and watch the full episode we just did a couple of weeks ago on Exner.
Exner is so important and got the shaft from these big, powerful figures.
It really ruined her life, but then she got her life back on track, and then these Senate investigators spread her name out there like wildfire.
And she became known as like the JFK's mistress, the mafia mold, you know, everything.
But she had this unique ability to do this for Kennedy, and he utilized her for that.
There's a couple of quick quotes from her, but she says, Just before he could be subpoenaed, Sam Giancana was murdered and shot seven times in the head in his own kitchen while he was making himself dinner.
I kept my secret out of fear.
Look what happened to Jack and to Sam, who was murdered in his house while under police surveillance.
Uh, she wanted people to know the truth before she got a cancer diagnosis, and she said, Finally, in the 90s, I'm going to tell you the whole thing, which she did.
And it was a little cameo in there from our friend J. Edgar Hoover, who was bugging her apartment.
Um, and Kennedy was saying, Don't worry about the FBI and their intimidation, they can't touch you, regardless.
So she kept doing it, she kept doing these, uh, handing these things off now.
As I said, Hirsch in the book is trying to nail Kennedy as a mafia payoff guy and all this stuff.
And yet, look at this unusual piece of information that's going back and forth.
In the envelopes that Judith Exner was taking back and forth, she never looked at the contents.
And so she couldn't identify was it money or whatever.
But one time in all of this, she looked at it.
And here's what she had to say.
Her and these Pentagon officials and Jankana and all the rest.
But let's remember, according to her own testimony, she made about 20 different drops of these different files back and forth.
Exner said that she said to Kennedy, I don't want to go.
And I asked Jack about it.
He said, no, it's a good idea.
And then, so she ends up looking at the envelope.
And she goes, she recalled looking at three contract proposals.
One envelope was for an unmanned vehicle on land, Exner said.
It was one of the first of its kind, unmanned robotics, she remembered.
She said that the vehicle was massive, the size of a tank.
The second project, she said, involved a new procedure for desalinization, an area that was being heavily researched by the government in the early 60s.
The final contract proposal.
Dealt with avionics for a fighter plane.
So the question becomes why is Jack Kennedy exchanging envelopes with these different figures like Shinkana and defense officials that have to do with advanced technological blueprints?
Not so much payoffs become interesting there, but what are the blueprints all about?
There's obviously advanced technology that Kennedy is tracking and he's using.
Gemstone File and Advanced Technology00:14:57
People in the mafia, and he's using people in the defense department to find out what it is because apparently someone else is developing it outside of the executive purview.
This is the crux of what happened there with Judith, and I think it reinforces this whole thing we've been talking about.
I'll mention that I think what's going on now with Trump and the Star Wars 2 thing that he's doing with the Iron Dome, of course, he's talking here about the F 47s.
Listen to this in relation to Trump talking about the F 47.
This just came out.
Quote, known as the next generation air dominance or NGAD, the F 47 will join a legacy of high performance jets.
Little is known about its exact specifications, appearances, or capabilities.
Trump teased that the sixth generation fighter aircraft would be virtually unseeable on radar.
Do you remember in his first term when he said, We have stuff that's invisible?
There's no question that they do, and that Trump is just the guy who wants to put it out there.
And of course, they always blow it off and say, oh, Trump talked over his head or whatever.
I don't think so.
I certainly think we have invisibility.
Although details in the contract's cost remain unclear, early estimates suggest development costs will exceed $20 billion, while the final price tag could be in the hundreds of billions.
We've given an order for a lot.
We can't tell you the price, Trump said, but Boeing got the contract.
The announcement is a big win for Boeing, which has struggled to recover from a series of public relations crises.
The F 47 will be built.
At Boeing Manufacturing Space in St. Louis.
Keep your eye on that story because I think the F 47 is going to have some of this X technology indeed.
Miss Olivia, you're up.
Lancelot Link, DJ.
Wernher von Braun headed up the Defense Intelligence Security Command.
The Gemstone file implicates Disc in the assassination.
According to the Gemstone file, Aristotle Onassis was a player also.
No question.
We brought up the Gemstone file because of this whole thing.
About Jim Brading and how the Gemstone file mentioned that he had to have the X's in his hatband.
The police were instructed in Dealey Plaza to let anyone do whatever they wanted there, situate themselves wherever they were, as long as they had the X's in the hatband.
For me, that is, you know, that's the signaling again.
I think the X steganography runs through this whole thing.
There's another weird story about Brading there in the Gemstone file, which is.
He's the person who is writing it, who was a Harwood Hughes employee, but he gives the story to Stephanie Caruana, who I was fortunate enough to speak with.
And there's a little thing in there where he's in a bar in San Francisco, and someone comes into that bar.
There's another intelligence official in that bar.
And Someone comes up at the end of the bar and announces to both of them, Do you remember how the hatband gave access to any location in Dealey Plaza?
And the guy, the Howard Hughes employee who writes the gemstone file, is very freaked out.
And he looks back at the other guy who also seems completely weirded out by this, you know, but he knows that the first person he's sitting with, who he doesn't know who it is, but he knows he's an intelligence official.
And then someone just walks in there and starts talking about the ex hat band.
So, and Brading is a very unusual figure for a lot of reasons.
One, he's actually taken in by the police and then released.
But what is he doing wandering around in Dealey Plaza?
He's also seen wandering around the Ambassador Hotel, by the way, a few years later.
Yeah, what do you got?
Peter Nuss, do you think Trump releasing the JFK files, then announcing the next generation fighter jet, confirms a link to both high tech aerospace projects?
Well, I think Trump has the whole connection into deep aerospace.
There's no question about it.
And the other thing that came up on the day of the file release was this big long conversation with Putin.
So there's that Russia connection again around this.
What was Kennedy trying to do?
He was trying to figure out some way that they could join together.
And he figured out that the UFO file was the great way to join their forces.
And in a non warlike fashion, it would give them a kind of a common thing to work on.
And that included a joint moon mission.
It included.
A joint space program.
So, what do you get out of that?
No Cold War, no arms race, no space arms race.
Those people inside that structure were aghast.
And this is what's so crucial.
And, like I say, with the files coming out and everything, I don't know, you know, you must understand NASA and the fascist links into it in order to understand the assassination.
You can't move that aside.
And just, you know, as we've seen people go over a cliff with pet theories or whatever, it's a documented trail, you know.
And that's the thing that we put across in this program.
If you're going to investigate Kennedy's assassination, you have to go into deep aerospace and you have to go into the UFO file.
You can't get around it.
And especially now, it's because of Malmgren, who I, you know, as I said, passed away sadly recently.
But in my conversations with him, he was, you know, He was getting UFO briefings from Bissell, who was the top intelligence guy.
You know, he's in Dulles's shadow right there in the beginning of the Kennedy administration.
And Bissell is so deep in that advanced technology world around the UFO file, running all of these programs like Blue Book and all the rest of it, our satellite program, intelligence gathering, the setup of the NRO.
Him briefing a Kennedy national security advisor on the UFO file.
That brings up the Corso story, who said, I was briefing Robert Kennedy and John Kennedy weekly on the UFO file.
So, you know, they're very in the loop on this.
We have to kind of reconstruct the record there, but it has to be understood as a major factor.
Let's put it to you that way.
Yes.
Okay.
Let's go here.
Brian Whitaker, L. Fletcher Proudy, don't forget his book, The Secret Team.
No, it's fascinating.
I quoted him a couple of weeks ago because I found that intro in the re release of the Secret Team in 1997 before his death, where he says, you know, they needed different enemies for different things communists, terrorists.
And it's kind of like the von Braun thing a little bit.
But then he says, now they're prepping UFOs and aliens.
Now, this is the guy who worked, remember, and was liaison between the CIA and the Joint Chiefs.
During the Kennedy era, he did all this investigation afterward.
And here he is in the 90s saying they're prepping UFOs to be the next big threat.
So when you look at things like the drone swarm, when you see the CIA players out there playing the UFO threat bugle, you know, you have to follow those threads to understand what's going on in the background.
So Proudy was, you know, he understood completely that Kennedy had been removed.
And he was in that system.
And after all, you know, some people have said, well, what do you do if you find out through these records that the JFK assassination was brought on and caused by the CIA?
Then what do you do?
You know, it's very simple.
I mean, the CIA has been extra constitutional from the beginning.
But the fact is that Kennedy, through the National Security Action Memorandum from 60 years ago and SAM 57, it defangs the CIA, it returns them to an information gathering process.
Role and it takes all the paramilitary stuff and it throws it back to the military.
That's what you can do if you investigate it properly and find that is the root cause.
I have a couple of things here on Angleton, and I'll just say this in terms, we're going to get more info in the background here, but I will say this about Angleton.
It's come out here that Angleton now lied.
Before the House committee in the 70s, twice, church committee testimony.
Now, the thing that he had to say, and why this is so crucial, is that in the records, it shows him setting up the program to intercept Oswald's mail.
And one of the reasons that they do this is for purposes of recruiting that person as a source, they'll intercept their mail.
Someone, a high profile person, or someone who goes into another country, and they'll determine this.
So, when he's asked before, and he set up this whole program, and they're starting to find out through these records the hundreds of millions of dollars that they spent, two or three hundred people going through the mail of these various people, like Oswald.
But Angleton gave the direct order for Oswald's mail to be investigated.
And It's very interesting because the person that he put on the job, Zephyrin, has a weird thing because he has a UFO encounter when he goes over to visit Russia.
So that's just a happenstance, I think.
But Angleton has him intercepting Oswald's mail and reading it.
There's a whole thing about it.
And as a result of Angleton's analysis on Oswald, he puts together a 180 page dossier.
So.
There's an interesting quote here that I think figures into all this, and we have to understand it in order to understand the record I'm about to read.
And it's all about this concept of the designated culprit, what they had to do with Oswald.
So here's one of the things that they did.
This is out of Professor Scott's book, and it is The American Deep State, which I think is his best book.
And he's still writing, interestingly enough, just doing great.
But.
Here's how he describes it, and how the designated culprit thing is a tie over between the 1963 Kennedy assassination and 2001, the events of 9 11.
Both the JFK assassination and 9 11 were facilitated in part by the way the CIA and the FBI manipulated their files about alleged perpetrators of each event.
Lee Harvey Oswald, in the case that I shall call JFK, and the alleged hijackers Khalid El Midhar and Nawaf El Zami.
In the case of 9 11, part of this facilitation was the decision on October 9th, 1963, of an FBI agent, Marvin Giesling, to remove Oswald from the FBI watch list for surveillance.
Now let's do a little bit of math.
October 9th, and the assassination takes place less than six weeks later.
This guy goes in with foreknowledge, obviously, and removes Oswald from the FBI watch list for surveillance.
This was Giesling.
This was shortly after Oswald's arrest in New Orleans in August and his reported travel to Mexico in September.
Obviously, these developments should normally have made Oswald a candidate for increased surveillance.
Instead, they take him off.
Something very strange is going on there.
They need him to not be surveilled.
They need him to not be one of these threats to keep an eye on.
This misbehavior is paradigmatic.
Don't you love Professor Scott?
Paradigmatic.
You don't get a word like that very often.
Of the behavior of other agencies, especially the CIA in both the JFK and 9 11 incidents.
Indeed, Giesling's behavior fits very neatly with the CIA's culpable withholding from the FBI in the same month of October information that Oswald had allegedly met.
In Mexico City with a supposed KGB agent.
This also helped ensure that Oswald would not be surveilled.
Indeed, former FBI Director Clarence Kelly, in his memoir, later complained that the CIA's withholding of information was the major reason why Oswald was not under surveillance November 22, 1963.
A more ominous provocation in 1963 was that Army intelligence, one unit of which in Dallas, Did not simply withhold information about Lee Harvey Oswald, but manufactured false intelligence in a way that seemed designed to provoke a retaliation against Cuba.
I call such provocations phase one stories, efforts to portray Oswald as a communist conspirator, as opposed to the later phase two story, also false, portraying him as a disgruntled loner.
So you have this kind of nest and lair of different stories about the culprits.
How are you going to set them up?
But it's crucial that the way that you lay them out won't have other industries, other interests going in there and looking at your guy and observing him.
So you won't have this dragnet around him.
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So he really can be moved into position as your designated culprit.
And thank God, if you can get all of that surveillance off of them, they can be your patsy.
You're all set.
One last piece on this.
So.
A conspicuous example of phase one stories was a cable from the 4th Army Command in Texas reporting a tip from the Dallas policeman who was also an Army Intelligence Reserve Unit Assistant Chief Don Stringfellow in the intelligence section, Dallas Department headquarters.
He notified the 112th Intelligence Group, this headquarters, that information obtained from Oswald revealed he had defected to Cuba in 1959, was a card carrying member of the Communist Party.
The cable was sent late on November 22nd directly to U.S. Strike Command at Fort MacDill in Florida, the base poised for a possible retaliatory attack against Cuba.
The cable was sent late November 22nd directly to this base.
The cable was not an isolated aberration.
It was supported by other false phase one stories from Dallas about Oswald's alleged rifle, and specifically by false translations of Marina Oswald's testimony to suggest that Oswald's rifle in Dallas was the same one he owned in Russia.
So it's very interesting because the person who does.
Get the translator to get the false translation of Marina is a guy named Jack Crichton, who was a member of the continuity of government team.
So you have a lot of forces in the middle of all that.
And you can see how it's very important, as I mentioned about the Luna committee, when they call these officials in, you know, and there's a guy named Jeff Morley who does great research on JFK.
The only problem is he still buys some of the, you know, canards in this case, including the fact that Oswald was a leftist.
And a lot of these JFK researchers, they don't, you know, they have a, it's kind of like a lukewarm thing.
They understand one aspect of it.
They can see that there's obfuscation, but they don't get the big picture.
And I see that over and over again.
Yes.
That's pretty backwards.
It is.
You know, I mean, yeah.
Well, how do you explain Bannister?
And do they not want to talk about Bannister because, you know, it throws their whole foundation off?
But then if you even look closer, You've got Bannister in aerospace, right?
And the UFO file.
So it's a big problem.
No wonder they avoid Bannister.
That's why we do dark journalism.
Go ahead.
Okay, Gus Stone, has Oswald's social security been declassified?
If not, it's important to bring it to the surface for us to know who he did work for.
Jesse Ventura made this point years ago.
Yeah, it's true.
I'll tell you what is interesting is that Oswald's work for Jagger Childs Stovall is very important.
Because they were the ones who processed highly sensitive photography for the United States.
It was a high security position.
Now, here's what's important about this.
If you look at Jagger Childs Stovall in the time that Oswald was there, they processed all high end pictures for the security teams looking at UFOs.
That's one.
So Oswald's in the middle looking at national security UFO photos.
Two, He's looking at the Cuban Missile Crisis photography.
Now, how do you get a guy who's been in Russia for the past three years looking at top secret?
So there's no explanation for how this guy gets that kind of clearance.
So it must be understood on the inside.
Oh, he was a double agent.
That's why he was over there.
So this is the nature of the setup that they understand that.
And I'll read this to you.
It's a brief, it's again from Professor Scott, but just.
Let this roll around in your mind when I'm talking about aerospace and then think about Oswald.
Was Oswald an industrial security informant?
Oswald's business career is suggestively like Ronstadt's.
There's another guy in here, Robert Ronstadt.
In late 62, this allegedly Marxist Marine veteran was able to get employment at the photographic firm Jagger Child Stovall in Dallas, a firm doing classified work for the Army Security Agency.
While there, he exhibited communistic tendencies.
How does that work?
According to the Warren Commission.
Yet Oswald had complete access to the workables on which the secret lists of places, names, the Army Map Service were kept.
In theory, these were supposed to be restricted areas in which only employees with a security clearance from the FBI were allowed to be present.
According to the Warren Commission, Oswald's new job was found for him by the Texas Employment Commission.
However, according to investigative journalist Anthony Summers, George de Mornchilt's wife and daughter both said de Mornchilt, who we saw, Had the CIA connections to both Dallas and Washington, arranged for the job.
He also arranged for Ruth Payne for the job, excuse me, at the Texas School Book Depository.
DeMornschild is the man in the middle, moving him into these various positions.
And DeMornschild's a millionaire oil geologist.
Why does he care about Oswald?
It's very important.
But you can see there this thing about him and the industrial security informant.
Becomes important when you think about him and how he's saying, I'm going to go work at NASA as soon as he leaves the Riley Coffee Company.
Oswald's proximity to potential subversives worthy of investigation seems to have been continuous on April 21, 1963, two weeks after he left Jagger Child Stovall.
That's the date in which his FBI file shows his first alleged contact with another FBI target, Fair Play for Cuba Committee.
Even during his next job at the Riley Coffee Company, both he and his co-workers talk of moving soon to the newly opened NASA Space Center in nearby Michoud.
Even at the Texas School Book Depository, Oswald's workplace on November 22nd, there's a potential security target.
The Texas School Book Depository's credit manager, Joe Molina.
Molina had a rough time of it during the early Phase I investigation of the Dallas police of Oswald as an international terrorist.
A veteran like Oswald, he had joined the American GI Forum, which the Dallas police considered possibly subversive.
Thus, Molina had become the subject of FBI reports as well, and as of a Dallas Police Department security file.
All this suggests, like Ronstadt, Oswald's true employer may have been firms, may have been the firms, oh, may not have been the firms, excuse me.
I'm going to say that again.
All this suggests that, like Ronstadt, Oswald's true employer may not have been the firms, but a private investigative agency doing industrial security work.
This would explain the FBI's zeal to cover up the paycheck anomalies and the reluctance of the government to this day to release Oswald's income tax records.
Well, that's a long way of answering your question, but I think we can see there that Scott is suggesting some other entity is running Oswald and they're running him to do industrial security.
That's the cover.
And, uh, By doing this, they can move him around.
They can put him in different places.
They can put him in the Texas School Book Depository, or they can do other things like, say, investigate guns being ordered through the mail, for example, and then use this name, Alec Heidel.
Use the phony name, you set up a P.O. box, go ahead and order that rifle.
And then when you get grabbed for the assassination, they can say, using a fake name, Oswald ordered a rifle delivered to his P.O. box.
So this is the.
This is the real track that they're going to have to uncover in the Luna D Class Committee if they want to go anywhere.
You're going to have to go much deeper than just, you know, any kind of mafia or Cuba type stuff.
I would actually clear the boards on that and look directly into the FBI and CIA records dealing with aerospace and industrial security.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
This is X Series 194, the JFK file CIA secret space UFO menace.
And there was something deep, deep in that blue program.
And the aspect of it was called Blue Gemini.
We've done a documentary on it here, and it's just called Blue.
And that program we found was active in 1962.
Yes.
Chris Lothian, Demort Schultz was connected to both the Nazis and the White Russians, wasn't he?
Would you say that he is the most important figure?
Oh, I think he's, yes.
He's right up there as one of the most revealing figures in the whole thing.
He writes a letter to Bush.
Now, here's the interesting thing.
It's very obvious that DeMorn Schilt, after he gives his testimony to the Warren Commission, that basically allows them to say, aha, Oswald was just a fanatical communist or whatever.
And he gives the longest testimony of anyone.
If you go back through the Warren Commission, his testimony is the longest.
He's there with them the longest.
Here's the thing about DeMorn Schilt.
He's a very cultured man.
He's an oil geologist.
There's no good explanation for the way he attaches himself in with Oswald.
But then after Oswald's death, he seems to go back and forth and he has this kind of crisis of a sort where he decides, you know what, I'm going to write about this whole thing.
And he starts to have kind of emotional difficulties.
And he writes this very unusual book saying, and the book is called I'm the Patsy.
And it's just a thin little book, and he starts to get really hardcore harassed and he's freaked out.
He starts to tell friends, they're going to blame all this on me.
I know what's happening here.
And he writes to George Bush and he says, I'm sorry to write to you like this, my friend, but ever since I stupidly wrote about Lee Harvey Oswald, I've been surrounded by this gang who've been surveilling me and gang stalking me and all the rest.
I wonder if you can help alleviate this terrible situation.
Then he gets a subpoena.
Before he gets a subpoena, actually, somehow he ends up in Czechoslovakia at the time.
And he speaks to the clairvoyant Croce.
This is a very strange chapter, but Croce sits down with him and says, Oh my God, you're associated with this whole thing.
And DeMarne Schilt freaks out from that, comes back to America, gets a subpoena to appear before.
The House Assassination Committee.
There's a journalist who actually plays DeMorn Schilt in the JFK movie.
His name is Gears.
I can't think of the last name.
But he went over and took the trip with him.
He actually suggested that he go see Croce.
And I don't know, Croce was just big in the 70s for some reason.
And DeMorn Schilt somehow was looking for spiritual counsel.
I mean, he was really at the end of his rope, whatever it was that was going on there.
And if you look into his history, though, he is associated early on when he comes over here.
They keep a good eye on him through the FBI and they try to limit his movements.
They're even wondering about allowing him to immigrate here because they think he's connected with the Nazis.
But he comes out of this, you know, Belarus white Russian community.
And they are the original monarchs, you know, back there before the revolution.
So there's a whole connection of those people when you go, the white Russian Dallas community.
That whole connection is there in Dallas.
And all the people like Payne and all the rest of it, who's very absent from the records release, interestingly enough.
Yeah, that's another one.
Yeah.
But you can see, you know, those connections.
The crucial thing for anyone to understand when you're looking at Payne, Ruth Payne and her husband Michael, is that Michael worked for Dornberger.
I mean, Dornberger, who became.
You know, the head of Bell Aerospace in Fort Worth, Michael Payne is his protege.
And then you have Lee Harvey Oswald staying with Payne.
So the connection with Dornberger, paperclip Nazi boss of von Braun, can't be missed.
These are the things that need the deeper investigation.
So a lot of the fluff that we've seen on the surface and a lot of the bad reporting from the pop click engagement farm, you know, work out there that masquerades as independent media doesn't cut it.
If you're going to get to the truth on this case, you have to come in because there again, Dornberger is aerospace.
It's Bell Aerospace.
He created the rocket program.
He is the one who invented the X 15, the most inventive and fast space plane that we ever made.
And, you know, what was it that we heard it was developed for?
Colonel Corso said they had Dornberger develop it to chase UFOs.
For the purpose of surveillance, so they could see what was going on.
Figure that one out.
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We're going to take a couple more of your questions and then we're going to go off into that glamorous ideas room sunset.
What do you got?
Giza Death Star community says, To mourn Shield was, in my opinion, the link between the Texas oil men and their relationship to the Galen organization.
Oh, wow.
Yes, think about that.
And this is what really gets me is that Galen is such an important factor around the setup of the Central Intelligence Agency.
And then it's learned later through certain declassification of documents that the hunts, and actually, it's Peter Dell Scott who brings this out, and Dr. Farrell, really, I have Dr. Farrell's in this book.
There's a lot about this, a fantastic book.
Um, that Farrell did, and uh, we're gonna have him back on the show to talk about this D class committee shortly here as soon as I'm done reading the Abe Lincoln book, which is totally this one you're gonna have to peel yourself off the ceiling if uh, you know anything about the case.
But um, this is very interesting because De Mornschild also is associated with Schlumberger, and Schlumberger is associated.
With Bannister, and they are the biggest oil equipment company in the world.
And, you know, the wife of Schlumberger, Jean, she is the one who buys the Del Chau paintings and puts them on display.
So there you have the early airship mystery of the Del Chau paintings with these fantastic arrows put on display by Schlumberger, who's investigated now, Schlumberger, by Jim Garrison because of the connection with.
So, if you have De Morin Schilt in the middle and being hired by those people, so you have it this way.
Here are the Dost to connect.
Schlumberger is the company.
You know, Jean, who is Schlumberger's wife, is like this kind of artsy humanitarian.
She finds the Del Show paintings and puts all those early airship paintings out.
Then we also have this connection of De Morin Schilt.
With Schlumberger and DeMarne Schilt with Oswald.
But then Schlumberger is associated and helps fund arms with Bannister while he's working with revolutionary groups trying to get rid of Castro in Cuba.
So there's this incredible confluence there.
If you can trace it down properly, there's no question that you're dealing with an element that is a super shadowy element.
And it's related heavily to the oil industry in that period, but it's related to aerospace on the other side.
Yes.
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Peter Nuss, if they show Oswald had not killed JFK, wouldn't his wife and his children have a massive lawsuit against the government?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, I mean, they should.
The other thing about not just saying, you know, well, someone else was shooting with him, there's no good evidence that shows that Oswald was shooting that day.
I don't think anyone who does.
Deep research on the case would ever think Oswald was shooting.
They could think he was some kind of informant for one side or the other, you know.
But what it looks like to me is that they were using him as a dangle in these situations to get information.
Oswald's pretty young.
I mean, he's a 24 year old guy, and he's been working, you know, in this milieu since the Civil Air Patrol of 15.
So he knows how to take orders and they place them in different places.
When he goes to Russia, remember.
Uh, they send him to Minsk, and in Minsk, he's getting all this money.
And uh, what's particularly interesting is his best friend in that period came out recently, did a series of interviews, and said he was always surrounded by women.
Now, Oswald's an okay guy, but he's not particularly good looking.
What was going on in Russia where they had they were throwing all these women at him?
Obviously, this is part of.
The compromising that they were doing on Oswald.
And it's very interesting because when he has that relationship with Marina, and she's very interesting herself, but they get married within six weeks.
That's pretty fast.
Four of those weeks, Oswald's in the hospital recovering.
So, you know, that's also interesting.
Like, you know, you can't really have dates and stuff when you're in the hospital recovering.
I don't know.
There's a very interesting thing where.
Peter Dell Scott, when he investigates the case, there's a fascinating moment where he interviews this best friend of Oswald.
This goes back maybe like 2019 or something.
But he's asking him various questions.
And then at a certain point, he just says, The whole Oswald odyssey in Russia just out of this world.
What's going on there?
First of all, he shows up and there's someone from the CIA at the embassy.
And he says in front of that person and to the Soviet guy, I'm going to give the Russians all my radar secrets.
You know, he's like, how does this work?
And then he goes, he's into Russia, and then they're paying him 5,000 rubles and give him a fancy apartment.
And he's working.
It's funny, I found out a little bit about that factory in Minsk when he goes in there.
The top physicists from all around there are all in that, working in there.
They're all working in that building, the radio building that he's working in.
So, um, It's absolutely unreal.
And I think what is also interesting is when he goes there, like I said, he was surrounded by all these women.
But the other group that he's surrounded with are Cubans because the Soviets are training these Cubans and stuff.
So you have Oswald with Cubans.
They're like kind of laying the track there.
And in the middle of it all is Angleton, you know, reading Oswald's mail.
You know, Angleton had a program, they called them singletons, where he would use one person to go in and try to figure out a situation who had no connections.
To anything else the CIA was doing.
I think that Oswald was a singleton.
I've become more convinced of it.
And I think we're, you know, now that we see that on the record that he lied to the church committee in the closed session, all the blacked out pages were lifted from this now.
And we can see him saying, no, I never, you know, I never knew anything about Oswald and all that stuff.
When in fact, he was instructing people to.
Read his mail starting in 1959 for the purposes of flipping him and getting intel and all the rest.
So, you know, that shows intense control of Oswald by Angleton and intense awareness, you know.
Yes.
David Tormega, Schleverger was apparently providing weapons to the Cuban exiles and supposedly gave the keys to the weapons bunker to Gordon Nobel, who later became an outspoken alien UFO whistleblower.
Isn't that funny?
And you read my mind because that was the quote.
Now, I think because you said that, I don't even have to read it, but I will anyway.
What I was going to say was right out of Garrison's On the Trail of the Assassins book The agency's attempted obstruction of our investigation became increasingly perceptible when we tried to extradite Gordon Novell from Ohio.
The legal maneuver grew out of the clandestine visit by some of Guy Bannister's associates to the blimp base at Huma, Louisiana.
They had removed munitions from the Schlumberger bunker in the middle of the night, and I brought them into New Orleans.
Sometime after we learned about this jaunt, an informant advised us that Novell had taken a photograph of the truck used in picking up the munitions.
Subsequently, Novell had sold the photograph to Walter Sheridan of NBC.
I discussed this unusual case with the DA of Huma, and he insisted that as far as his jurisdiction was concerned, the removal of the munitions from the Schlumberger bunker had been a burglary.
In my judgment, the transport of the burglarized material into New Orleans had been a felony, and the disposal of evidence relating to the offense, sale of the photograph to NBC, also was a crime committed in New Orleans.
However, before I could question Novell about his latest adventure involving Guy Bannister in his personal war against Cuba, Novell picked up word that I was looking for him from one of his half dozen CIA men I had naively embraced as associates and hit the road.
We located Novell in Ohio and moved for his extradition in April 1967.
We wanted to know why the ammunition had been taken from the Schlumberger bunker.
And in the following weeks, Novell, through interviews and press conferences, began providing the public with more enlightenment about some of the CIA's activities than we had been able to develop.
In the previous months.
Among other things, he announced that the Slumberjay bunker business had been a CIA enterprise all the way.
Well, that's a big deal, and it's interesting because, of course, as David said, Novell was big time.
The last two decades of his life were really three.
He was the guy who showed up immediately when Bob Lazar made his claims.
So he was like, UFOs, free energy.
This guy, who was actually used as an Oswald double.
In his early CIA career and shows up in the middle, he offers his services to Garrison and says, I can clear your office of bugs.
And then he works for the CIA planning bugs on Garrison.
So that's a deep, deep player in the middle of all this.
And there again, directly in the UFO aspect.
And it's funny because if you go into May Brussels' history, she has a big thing about Gordon Novell infiltrating Larry Flint's life.
Oh, God.
Right.
Yeah.
And he was, you know, the publisher of Hustler, but he was really on to let's put rewards out.
Let's get to the bottom of the JFK thing.
That's in 1982 or whatever.
Novell ends up living with him.
That's moving your problem in.
We should do a show on that.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
Okay.
What else you got?
Knucklehead74745 says Clay Shaw was a board member for Schlumberger.
Yes, absolutely.
Shaw's involved with them as well.
What else you got?
By the way, Gordon Novell, is he the one that wrote the story, wrote the book about the lead character Oswald?
No.
Who is that?
That's Carrie Thornley.
Okay.
And I'll tell you this about Thornley and why he's worth considering in the midst of all this.
Thornley wrote a novel about Oswald before the Kennedy assassination.
And he said when they were in Atsugi that they would.
Lie in their bunks and they would hear things.
And it was like voice to skull, early voice to skull instructions.
Yeah.
And also, the interesting thing about Thornley is he said everyone on the base knew in that division that Oswald had a higher clearance than all of us.
So, Oswald, you know, the Warren Commission $1.25 an hour loser guy who has no life and beats his wife and all that stuff, he's a top.
Security clearance guy at Atsugi, which is like Area 51 in Japan.
You just try to figure that one out, and hopefully, this picture will help you figure out the rest of it.
Bobby Inman and George Joannidis.
Here's the thing that I'm hearing.
There are 44 files from the Joannidis file for the CIA, top psychological warfare expert who created the Oswald Project, standing there with the UFO disclosure Inman who said, Not only do we know what the UFOs are, we know who's inside driving them.
On the record to Timothy Goode.
Inmons, as I said, still around.
Luna, you can subpoena him and get him to talk to you.
Joe Niddies is very interesting because when you look at this development that's going on with the 44 files, the CIA doesn't want to give those up as part of this release of JFK records.
Now, the reasoning is well, look, the president's order covers the congressional law.
About JFK records, which was put into place in 1992.
Well, no one knew that Joe and Itty's existed.
That didn't come on board until 2005.
So technically, his records aren't subject to the president's order.
They released some kind of fitness profile of him for 1966 or something.
That's it.
You can't get the 44 records.
It's too important.
Well, the 44 records in there, it's going to show that he designed the Oswald Project where he was and that the CIA has been lying about Joe and Eddie's records.
There's where the clash is.
Now, here's the thing.
Supposedly, on the inside, the word has gone back to the CIA that no, those records come under the president's executive order.
So, this might be the first big test of the new administration, the new appointees, Ratcliffe, Gabbard, and Patel.
But in particular, in relation to Joe Anniddies, who I think cracks the case because he's standing there getting that career intelligence medal from Inman, Inman can say why they were giving him the medal, which I believe was because he set up the Oswald psychological operation.
And two, they can get to the bottom of the fact that the CIA had positioned and set up Oswald.
Both of those things are in there, are in the Joe Anniddies files.
But guess what?
We haven't been able to see those.
Go ahead.
Roger Wilco, has DJ assessed James Files' claim to be the Grassy Knoll shooter?
He claimed the CIA contracted the Chicago mob to kill JFK and supplied the weapon.
Yeah, it's interesting.
Why would they let him live is my big question to tell the tale.
They killed so many people.
It's true.
My thing about Files, I've watched his testimony, I've watched different things relating to him, and there are other people who make these claims.
About things.
But I don't think you're going to get to the bottom of the truth just through an account like that.
So I think there were a lot of people that were used for different reasons.
And there was another guy who came forward who had all this information too about supplying Secret Service credentials and stuff.
You know, those stories are out there, and the ones we can verify, we do.
Gee, Files is still with us.
He must be pretty old at this point, but I know there's been a lot of coverage.
Every once in a while, you'll see some of that kind of engagement farming thing where they just grab files and they're like, I shot JFK, and just run this all over the place.
But I think in drilling down the case, it's a tricky one.
There have been people who've done different research on it, but I have not found it conclusive.
Here's an interesting thing that came out of the records, and I think this might be a good thing to end on, but it's good to contemplate the level of surveillance that the CIA did on the Kennedys.
1963, the CIA set up eavesdropping equipment on a house in a wooded area of Bethesda, Maryland, where two Cuban exiles were set to meet with American officials, including Attorney General Robert Kennedy.
July 1, 1963, this is the record that just came out.
On June 24, 1963, Charles Matt.
And then they have a number of CIA codes here SAS, MOB, PM, extension 6488 was referred to me by SAS security officer Mr. George Ladner and visited me in room 4E21 to request some operational support.
Beginning July 1st, 1963, Matt advised me that two leaders of the Cuban exile group were coming to Washington, D.C. on that latter date to confer with CIA and other government officials, including Robert F. Kennedy.
The attorney general concerning a new program for the exiles.
This is after the Bay of Pigs.
This is after the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Now there's a new program.
And here you have the CIA spying on this meeting of Cuban exiles and also spying on the attorney general.
So the CIA eavesdropping on the attorney general, you can see them eavesdropping on the president.
They're looking for ways that they can maneuver this situation and influence Kennedy.
And they're also diming in on his various plans to see what they can do.
Obfuscations and Fascist Links00:15:18
Yes, we'll take the last couple of questions now.
Wait, before we do, you're watching The Dark Journalist Show.
It's X Series 194.
This is JFK Files, CIA Secret Space, UFO Menace.
Two more questions from you guys in the Ideas Room.
And I hope that we've given you enough to think about before we do the next installment investigating the records, which I've been spending a lot of time on.
And I'm trying to get a.
A full coherent message from what they've let out.
Apparently, they're going to come out with more records in relation to it.
We've got 77,000 going through now, and there's a few more on Monday.
And now there's this weird back and forth in the background on the 44 Joe and Nitty's files, which I think is the crux of the matter.
Although I was happy to see things like the Schlesinger redevelopment of the CIA memos because they show.
Kennedy was absolutely serious about stripping that organization down and reorganizing it.
Yeah.
Chris Lothian says, Priscilla Johnson, has her name come up at all in the finals?
Oh, you know, I haven't seen that yet, but she's very important because she, for years, claimed not to be CIA, but there she was in Russia when Oswald shows up just in time to interview him.
And she was also the one who did the whole, you know, meanly.
With Marina and really guided her.
And eventually Marina was like, well, I'll never talk to her again.
So, yeah, they put these different people in there and they would always have them on the specials and everything else.
And, you know, it's funny how they keep manufacturing and remanufacturing Gerald Posner.
It was one of the worst.
And all of his work from the 90s and 2000s is all completely debunked.
He, you know, Case Close is a complete fraud of a book.
And, but they put him out there as like the expert to debunk this.
And, like, no, no, it was still Oswald.
So they still have single shooter stuff.
And then they have this weird backup of the mob, right?
That whole thing, which we discussed at length.
And now, what you're seeing in the pop click thing with the engagement farming is they're using state actors.
They keep floating out different state actors.
That has nothing to do.
It's not a country that's behind the Kennedy assassination, it's a deep state.
You have to understand what the difference is.
And that, you know, the deep state is a system.
It goes parallel around countries.
It's an intelligence, it's a combination of intelligence, finance, and contracting groups.
And then you have an organized crime element with it.
That's the way that Professor Scott defines it.
And I think he's right on the money.
It's not, you know, look, President Kennedy had a lot of enemies.
The steel companies hated President Kennedy, you know.
Am I supposed to believe the steel companies assassinated President Kennedy?
You know, you have to go and look at it and say, where has the obfuscation happened?
And you have to look directly on the government side.
The question is, what were they covering up?
Well, the things that we've been able to really roll out to the public, and some for the first time, is that the deep aerospace advanced technology is involved here.
That's one.
Two, the UFO file piece.
Is locked right in that.
And Kennedy's right in there with boosting NASA, creating that, making the mission to the moon.
And according to Lloyd Berkner, the moon and Mars has an entire peace in space thing, wants to go into space with the Russians, go to the moon with the Russians.
No, there's no question that once he wants to share the UFO file with the Russians, it goes back, you know.
I quoted Malmgren, who just passed away, as I mentioned, being briefed by Bissell on the UFO file and, quote, otherworldly craft, okay?
And then, you know, classically on this program, Douglas Caddy and E. Howard Hunt, and Hunt tells Caddy in private, Kennedy's assassinated over the UFO file.
It has to be, you know, you have to understand why the threat would be, because if he shares the advanced technology with the enemies of the fascist element inside of the space program, It's the ultimate betrayal in their mind.
And they've just killed 25 million Russians.
So that's why it's crucial.
And I started the program out with all the deep researchers have a fascist link with all this, which is why all the pop click stuff that we're seeing about the records and all that, you don't see the CIA, the fascist element, or aerospace anywhere in the coverage on this.
It's crazy.
You know, they're all.
So many of these groups in independent media, for some reason, don't have the background.
And how can you miss it?
You know, all you have to do, and I've said this about the deep state researchers look, the deep state researchers understand all about the CIA aspect, and we should follow their lead on that.
What I do is I take the best out of the UFO world and move it into that deep state place.
It's between the two that you get the picture.
Because, of course, a lot of the deep state people, you know, I mentioned Morley earlier, and I think he does a good job of.
Tracking the documents and tracking the CIA officials and their little obfuscations.
But he's not going to put the whole picture together because, one, he still thinks Oswald's a leftist, and two, he doesn't talk about the UFO file in relation to it.
So you're missing.
If you don't have that aspect, you're missing.
Okay, last question.
Okay, I wanted to throw this out there.
Lancelot Link, Joannidis was spotted at the Ambassador Hotel when RFK was assassinated.
Yes?
Yeah, there was a whole documentary on various CIA officials who were there.
And unfortunately, some of them were misidentifications.
It's never been firmly established.
But here's what I can tell you about Joe Annettis.
One, he was in New Orleans and put out the first conspiracy theory in relation to this case by claiming that Oswald was Fidel Castro's guy and he was funding the group.
To put these ads out when Oswald got arrested so that they would instantly have the spin going on.
So there's no question about Joe and Eddie's doing that.
But the thing is, because he was the top psychological warfare officer, he was assigned to Oswald.
And so he created the whole myth around Oswald and the lefty piece and all that.
And he had these things to draw from that the government had put Oswald in a unique position for.
Going over to Russia and things like that.
So he created the perfect image of an assassin.
He created the perfect Patsy.
And then, you know, his career is very dodgy indeed.
No one, as I said, even knew he existed.
And, you know, Morley did great work tracking him down.
One of the things he did was Joe Anniddies, of course, in getting that career achievement medal from Inman.
He was the guy who, when they were setting up, Church committee, house assassination committee, the CIA would say, use him as the liaison.
He can give you the right responses for this and that.
So he was the one who was the block.
He was the one who had to make sure that they didn't get the right CIA information.
So he's a very important, trusted with a very important high level position from the Central Intelligence Agency on this.
And when you put that together with him creating this and then the fact that In 2005, his name gets raised and is part of a lawsuit about these records.
Those records are still being blocked, even after the executive order.
There are 44 of them, and the CIA does not want you to see what DeMar Chill was up to.
And what they say is, oh, we don't want to expose those operations.
Well, one of those operations is probably making Oswald the designated culprit.
That's what they don't want you to see.
And that really does explode the situation as opposed to just throwing Angleton under the bus, who was fired anyway.
Yes.
Okay, last question.
Yes.
All right, I'm going to pair these two.
I know I'm getting starved.
Everyone, you're watching The Dark Journalist Show.
It's X Series 194.
Deep, deep tonight.
And it's great to have so many of you here with us.
This is an important period that we're in with the records coming out, as muted as some of them may be, and the Luna D class task force and this whole part.
That's April 1st, is their first hearing.
This is important.
Unfortunately, as I mentioned, her UFO committees are going to have, you know, the wrong people are going to be involved.
But on the JFK side, you know, if you can go deeper, you might be able to get something.
Yeah.
Actually, on that note, Ray Ishak says, Daniel, why aren't you volunteering to go in front of the Congressional Committee and inform them where to look and dig deeper into the X Protect and X Everything Else?
Oh, for sure.
For sure.
No, I have.
I've sent messages online and things like that.
I sent her, Luna, and Burchett all the information on Mellon controlling the UFO whistleblowers.
So I hope that did some good.
But, you know, I could question Inman.
If they got Inman up there, I've got him ready for it.
You'd enjoy that.
Well, I think that they, look, If they release the Joe Anniddies records, which I think that that's going to be a real knockdown, dragout fight for those, I think that they're happy to throw these other guys under the bus.
But Joe Anniddies, he's there.
God knows.
He may have created the psychological operation for the UFO aspect.
Give them the phony UFO file versus what the real thing is.
So there might be a lot in there that may be why Mr. UFO is giving him the award at the end.
Or did his activities in participating in the Kennedy assassination save their work around the UFO file?
Because that group that was developing the secret space program needed to keep that program out of the hands of somebody like Kennedy, who wanted to have a peaceful use and share it with the world and move the culture forward.
They didn't want anything to do with that.
And they didn't want to share it with the world, and especially not the Russians.
So, no, the space program has to be looked at, and it's uncomfortable because NASA's involved, but we have to understand the space interest because, in a sense, it interfaces, but it also eclipses all the other interests because that's where they're going.
It's rule from above, right?
So, that's why you need to look.
You go deep aerospace and you never look back.
Okay.
Happy Hermit 3D.
Will we know if the CIA has doctored the released files?
I suspect we are getting a manipulated, limited hangout.
When will all the files be released unredacted?
And Kenneth Swartz, Judge Napolitano says the most important files that Trump talked about still have not been released.
No, he's right.
He's absolutely right.
This is not a complete release.
And the executive order calls for a complete release.
The complete release would also include those 44 files I just mentioned.
So, um, Yeah, in terms of what records we're getting, well, I think they fill out a picture.
Again, it's not so much that the records are going to say, here was our CIA assassin and here's his name and all that, but it shows enough of the broad pattern of what they were doing.
So the records are important, but where they point to is maybe the crucial realization around the whole thing.
They're evidence.
But, and I think they are useful, but I also do believe that there's a way to get around these orders, which is you can have parked a certain amount of files and put them outside of the JFK designation.
So, a number of different places where the files could be locked and loaded may not be in the most simplest archive of here's our CIA archive, you take it.
That interesting meeting I've pointed out before, where Bobby Kennedy meets with CIA Director McCone on his farm in Virginia immediately after the assassination.
Bobby Kennedy, there's something with the records in Bobby Kennedy in all this.
And there's the CIA moving around how Kennedy would have instructed them to do this.
He's making some.
Remember, he's still the attorney general at the time.
He's plugging it into the Department of Justice and he makes weird comments when he comes back from the meeting.
And he says, I asked McCone and I made him tell me the truth in a way that he couldn't lie.
So I think what that's saying is that when they meet on that farm, he plugs him in.
And somehow, if you deviate from From what the Central Intelligence Agency did or what they were involved in, you're going to somehow, you know, set off all the bells and whistles in the State Department.
That's why the records are still a hot potato, and that's why you're still looking at obfuscations.
And with that, Miss Olivia, I think that we are into the close and our super chatters.
Okay, I'm going to do super chatters.
I want to say, DJ, I've done like 200 shows with you.
Roscoe Photo Analysis Secrets00:03:36
This was really impressive.
The density of this episode, of the content of your knowledge, you know.
The Tour de Force.
Well, thank you.
I really appreciate that.
There's so much.
And I think with the subject matter, it's so crucial and so important that with the records and then with all the great questions from you guys.
And you did a fantastic job.
Yeah, a star says, DJ, take a bow, sir.
Thank you.
I really appreciate it.
And I want to remind people that the work around the JFK file, you know, from people like Professor Scott, From people like May Brussels, Paris Flamont.
Like, this is the really important information about the state of the country and the different groups and factions that are involved.
The information's there, and we shouldn't accept the false corporate media versions of things.
And we also shouldn't accept any kind of shoddy independent media treatment of the subject, either that just turns it into a sports.
Thing where this team or that team, you know, it's more that there's a very deep subject for us to pursue, and it's great to pursue it with you guys.
I think this is a very exciting era, and I look forward to what can happen here with the records and with the committees.
And as I said, the committees I think only last for a certain period, like there might be a kind of a six month glory period here involved.
So let's take a deep look at what we can get our hands on, and also the story we started with Ricky White.
Oh, And Roscoe White.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
About the bone issue on the wrist, the injury.
Oh, I had images for that too.
Well, first of all, I'll close with this, but among Roscoe White's effects that Ricky White found with his mother was this very unusual 1963 Photoshop job of Oswald.
And we can tell when we look at the original, again, this is how they did it.
And there's a lot of photo analysis about Roscoe and Oswald.
One of the things.
Uh, we're about certain things that in the body were Roscoe White, including the fact that he had injured his wrist.
Has this kind of very unusual thing hold up that picture of Oswald's posed the photoshopped picture, yes.
Okay, no, no, the other one, the other one.
Oh, yeah, because I've always looked at that go, Why does Oswald look so butch?
You know, oh, yeah, he doesn't, you know, it's it doesn't make any sense.
Well, yeah, that's really true, and it's interesting because this is not.
You know, there was a series of these on backyard photos, and uh, this one is a weird stance rifle, pistol, and communist manifesto.
I mean, boy, you're getting ready to set this guy up, you need all three going for you.
But Roscoe was a photo expert, you know, and they were probably like, Yeah, you know, get that picture of yourself back there and then paint Oswald's head right in it.
So, um, the Roscoe White story is loaded, Ricky White would make a fantastic witness, and I highly recommend the Luna.
D class task force, get him in there.
And, you know, he would make, he might be able to bust that conversation wide open.
Next Week's Grandfather Surprise00:07:45
I'm going to close with the statement by Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden that I mentioned earlier because Kennedy's grandson, JFK's grandson, Jack Schloschberg, he's Caroline's son and he's just been a kind of a menace out there going after RFK and saying, You know, stop investigating the assassination and all this stuff, and really just making a nuisance of himself.
He really seems to have some kind of emotional problem.
But this is what Bolden had to say to him.
I thought it was very important.
Open letter to Jack Schlossberg My name is Abraham Bolton.
I was a friend of your grandfather, President John F. Kennedy, and a member of the United States Secret Service.
Your grandfather was responsible for my historic appointment as the first of my race to be appointed to the president's White House in Washington, D.C. In my opinion, your interview below, it's a CNN interview, did not bespeak of one who understands the importance and gravity of the assassination of a president.
As during the interview, you castigated the current president, the news networks, researchers, and others, because we dared to continue to investigate the assassination of, quote, my grandfather.
When the president was murdered, brutally killed, a president of the United States of America, whether you or any members of the Kennedy family disagree with the release of, Pertinent information that was scheduled to be released years ago is a debit and obstruction to a democracy.
Take note and be governed by reason.
May God bless you, your family, and may God bless America.
I think Abraham put it best.
And with that, Ms. Olivia, you're up.
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Who is DJ visiting next week?
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You will find out probably Monday.
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April 2nd.
Yeah, well, it's actually April 1st that they're going to do.
They moved it back because they couldn't get the second.
Found that out.
So Luna's first JFK with Burchett and all that.
Burchett.
Burchett, that's right.
They used to get me for saying that and saying, you know, oh, it sounds like a slander.
But no, that's how he pronounces it Burchett.
Love you guys, Olivia and DJ.
Thanks for the amazing JFK night.
Thank you, Miss Firecracker, for being here.
Great show, DJ.
Mark West, terrific.
Bethany G.
That was an amazing show, Olivia.
Definitely had a valid point.
Why do I even bother with other JFK shows?
Thank you.
I really appreciate that.
And I watch them all.
I watch them all.
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Hey, listen, Rolly Fingers is a baseball legend, and that mustache made him famous.
Abe was legend, says Tim Houston.
There we go.
Jack went to my high school.
I think he's done too much LSD.
Whoa.
Well, he dances around with the weird Kerchief on it.
I don't know what he's up to, but Jack Schlossberg seems to be really out of there.
There is Giza Death Star.
Joseph, it's great to see you out there.
And boy, do we have a lot of JFK to catch up on.
And of course, Joseph's new books on the Confederacy and the assassination of President Lincoln.
The first one is a mind blower, the second one is just coming out.
So.
Watch out.
You've got a real double trouble going on there.
Jessica Rodriguez, absolutely epic show.
Again, you deliver the real truth.
Thank you, Jessica.
It's great to see you out there.
And Golden Alley Cat, Midnight, Tim Houston, thanks, DJ, and Olivia.
You two do an amazing job.
Thank you.
Yes.
Bravo, Miss Olivia.
Great job.
Really well done.
And the ideas from great questions tonight.
Woo!
Esoteric Gold.
Roger Z, Aaron, just fantastic.
And I know Kate's out there.
It's great to see you.
We will be back with you next week.
And like I said, I've got a surprise for you early in the week, so watch for it.
And let's see what else we got there.
DJ equals UFO X JFK.
Thomas Ball's got it.
There's your quote of the night right there.
We'll see you all next week and have a fantastic weekend.
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It never really ends.
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And never let it be forgot once there was a Camelot.
And of course, there can be again.
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So let's see what we can do with the D class, shall we?