Dark Journalist and Olivia dissect the 1948 Aztec crash, alleging FBI suppression under J. Edgar Hoover and a CIA psyop involving Frank Scully's "16 dead aliens" narrative to justify emergency powers. They expose alleged silencing tactics like jelly substances on researcher Sarbacher, link Tall Whites to Atlantean automatons, and critique modern disclosures by Dave Grush as false narratives. The discussion connects Elon Musk's "X" steganography to a Secret Space Program, cites the Guy Hottle memo regarding metallic bodies, and concludes that these operations aim to keep humanity in an arrested state while politicians like RFK Jr. navigate the manufactured threat. [Automatically generated summary]
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And we are live.
This is Dark Journalist.
What a fantastic crowd we have out there in the ideas room tonight already.
Of course, tonight I am joined by the lovely Olivia.
Hi, everybody.
And Olivia, it's that summer feeling.
And finally, with that summer feeling comes scores of corrupt political news.
And of course, tonight, big, big on the UFO file.
And this becomes very important because this is a special episode.
To highlight many of the things that are going on in the UFO field around crash retrievals and show how a real crash retrieval story from 1948 was covered up massively to the point where it's still largely considered a hoax today.
But the good researchers have gone on the ground over the past four decades and completely unearthed a legitimate crash retrieval story.
And it's very interesting when we look at some of these situations where they're using the exact same themes that they used to cover up and now they're forcing them down the public's throat.
And this becomes part of an intel psyop and a theme, a narrative that's been created and put together very carefully.
And we're going to explore some of the members and how, since April 20th, this one has been put into position.
Now, in the second half of tonight's program, we're also going to be taking your questions, and Miss Olivia is going to be putting those together.
And tonight's going to be a special report.
We're going to do about two hours, and this is Cosmic Clearance, Aztec UFO Crash Retrieval.
We're going deep, deep tonight into the origin of the UFO file.
And that gets us back to the Cosmos Club and maybe even further back to an older time and brings us right up to the point where today they are cashing in more money for UFO Dough and the UFO Defense Office, which is very interesting, along with the hearings that are coming up in July.
Just a fascinating time to be working on these deep things.
Dear to us on the X series.
And how does X steganography figure into all this?
Well, X steganography is throughout because this is the code that they've been using for a long time.
And it's interesting when we put together the amount of episodes that we've done over the past five years on this, it's very obvious how to see the theme and see the strings that connect here.
So we're going to connect some of those dots tonight before I go any further.
Miss Olivia, how are we doing out there?
Good.
Straggle On says Senator Gillibrand announced today that she secured full funding.
For Arrow for fiscal year 24, more money for the UFO threat.
Things are heating up, I think.
Well, good point.
Here's the thing about Gillibrand as we've spotlighted.
Now, she's the senator from New York and Kirsten Gillibrand, and she's leading with Marco Rubio, the UFO defense office.
That's Arrow.
And they've attached it to the NDAA.
And so, in doing that, they've guaranteed funding for this.
But they've also held the rest of the defense industry and, you know, Paychecks and all kinds of things hostage in order to get their office.
So it brings to mind a lot of things that are going on in relation to this.
So we have to say, what are they doing?
What are they up to with this?
And she seems to be getting all the bells and whistles for her UFO Doe office.
But that's going to come in crucial, the things that Arrow are doing.
You're going to see a competition between some of these organizations, and you're also going to see a false dichotomy laid out between the ones.
Say, like Arrow, who are going to say there's a threat, but we don't know what it is.
And then you're going to have people like Grush and Elizondo, and they're going to be coming out and saying, We know the truth.
Give us that truth, government, even though we're in the government too, and we are the government, and we've helped them lie and lie about the UFOs.
So you're going to see the phony whistleblowers on one hand, and then the phony, stiff government types saying, We don't know what that is.
So they have Kirkpatrick out there, and they can have Grush.
And so they can play out this whole thing with the intelligence agencies and just forget about the actual public and the people, you know, the real military whistleblowers.
And people in the public who've dealt with the UFO issue and just how far back this goes in the human mentality.
So, they're going to put on this theater for us.
And the question is why?
Well, we've suggested a lot of answers on this program and tonight, particularly around the whole idea of UFO crash retrieval.
It gets very deep because that case in Aztec, there's a lot of answers there that provide answers for us now here in 2023, even though the incident took place in 1948, because it was scrubbed so heavily by the FBI.
And that was Hoover's FBI that got rid of it.
There's a lot of information that's been vouchsafed there for us, and a lot of good people have been working on it.
What's fascinating when we get into these topics is just the level of secrecy and then the lies upon lies and then living in lies that go on around the UFO file.
And you have to ask yourself again what is the nature of the lying around the UFO file?
Well, on this program, we've gone very deep to expose the groups that are involved.
And referred to them as X Protect, these are groups that are there to guard the technology and guard the various effects that that technology creates.
This goes much deeper than saying, well, you know, we have to protect the public from the idea that there's aliens.
It's the fundamental advantage that is taken on, that is the thing that they are protecting the most.
And tonight we're going to explore that through the figure of Frank Scully and the amazing book that he brought forward.
Exposing this in a very early period and all the very strange things about Scully, which of course they would eventually name the X Files character Scully after Frank Scully.
But Frank Scully found himself in the middle of quite a lot of crossfire from these different deep agencies within the government trying to keep the UFO file secret.
The same groups who are now using the same secret that they've kept for 80 years and twisting it around so that they can roll out their version and pretending that that's disclosure.
That's the false deep.
State disclosure that we need to be very careful of.
The whole program is run by that X Protect group inside the Central Intelligence Agency with the help of the defense contractors around aerospace.
This has been something that's been building up over time.
And what they've been building up to is a UFO threat.
That UFO threat is bringing us this kind of emergency powers situation.
And therein lies the danger beyond just the government secrecy.
Of course, using an office like the Continuity of Government.
Easily the most secret outfit inside of the United States government.
Using them and for political purposes is already highly illegal, but using them for this and to bring in the emergency powers through a false UFO threat is a gigantic danger.
And many of the UFO researchers have fallen down on their faces on the job and just try to pretend that things are going to go along in the old way.
But post COVID, it's not.
A viable option because COVID is a real dry run and the op around the COVID op.
You know, I mean, if you really go deep into it, you're really looking at something where they've taken on a whole new position around it.
And efforts to expose it also, I think, have been tripping them up dramatically.
But we're going to get into all that tonight.
This is a very special two hour feature for you Cosmic Clearance, Aztec UFO Crash Retrieval.
This one's going to go deep.
Also, I'm going to reveal more about Black Rogue, which is the actual name of the crash retrieval program.
And, you know, when they had Grush on, With Russ Coldheart, and they were doing that whole explosive thing.
He was like, I'm scared when he was talking to him, and all that weirdness was a very strange interview.
We had Grush saying all those weird things like, Well, you know, this is how he would do it.
This is classic CIA dancing, as they call it.
He'd get asked a direct question.
He said, Well, you know, sometimes a fly gets caught in a spider's web, and you know, it's usually pretty bad for the fly, right?
So, yes, and then.
The guy would say, Oh my God, so what you're saying is they are keeping alive aliens and those aliens are killing humans.
So he could make all of these things.
And there's a movie actually from the 80s.
It was a Peter Sellers movie called Being There.
And that's what I'm thinking more and more with Grush when I watch, because I've watched this a number of times to see the dancing that goes on there.
And he often answers a question with a question.
And very often in some of these, he'll say, Well, they're actual aliens.
Aliens on board?
You know, he gets asked that and he says, Well, sometimes you might expect that when something crashes, there are pilots on board.
Or do you mean when a plane crashes?
Are we talking about alien crashes with aliens on board?
What the hell are you talking about?
So, again, the problem in all of these, just like when Elizondo rolled out, is that he had George Knapp and this Cole Hart guy, who was, by the way, a 60 Minutes Australia guy who just jumped into the UFO thing.
And all of the people in the UFO field, when they get these people on, they don't ask them real questions because I guess they don't know how.
Real questions are anymore.
They're just after the sensation and the feeling of the excitement of the sensation of somehow this is going to lead to dead aliens.
Well, it's very important because when we've recovered these things, getting it straight and how it's gone down and how they've been able to hide this over 80 years is quite remarkable.
I'm going to tell you it goes back even further.
But what occurs to me when dealing with this is the way that they've been able to come in and handle it is through these very weak.
Interviews, and it's actually that's one side of it.
And then on the other side, you bring in these people who don't know anything about it.
So they think, oh, you know, I'm talking about the UFO thing, therefore I'm going deep on the UFO thing.
But you're not, because the people you're sitting there giving an audience to are a bunch of CIA people who are running an op.
So, you know, this is a very tricky situation.
I'm going to get into it tonight because it's gone into a kind of overdrive.
And if I told you that, Some aspect of it was launched on Hitler's birthday this year.
I wonder what you think of that.
Let's go into some of those.
But before we do, Miss Olivia, how are we doing out there?
Can I ask you a trivia question?
Sure.
Chuckle says, What brand did X Files Smoking Man smoke?
I know it's supposed to be Marlboro, but it's something else.
What is it?
No, no, it's Morley's.
Morley's.
Thank you.
That would have killed me because I couldn't remember it.
I couldn't look it up.
Just too good.
And by the way, he is supposedly modeled on E. Howard Hunt.
And think about E. Howard Hunt and his UFO revelations.
It makes a lot of sense, actually, when we go into it.
And then when they did a bio of the smoking man, he was there setting up Oswald and all that.
So E. Howard Hunt showed up pretty well as the model for that.
And there is a book that he writes when they do this biography episode.
Do you remember the name of this thing?
It's Ramona Clef.
That's it.
And remember what that was all about?
The whole Ramona Clef thing.
We'll talk about it some other time.
But it is interesting to me because.
Let's just say that they were using the fact that Hunt had been the author of over 50 books himself, and he would use various names, but he was obsessed with this.
So they had the guy in X Files doing the same thing.
What else have you got?
Not related, but Luminessa Luck says strange energies this week, along with weather strangeness.
I think next week we're supposed to have the whole week is thundershowers.
Yeah, it's pretty interesting.
For the summer, it's definitely, you know, for Boston, it's usually much nicer.
We wait all year for this.
Compared to what was going down in Oklahoma and Arkansas and all those places, they were getting hit pretty hard down the West.
And I know that Dr. Farrell was talking about that as well.
So we're glad that he's been able to weather the storm down there as well.
Everyone, it's so great to have so many of you here with us.
Some amazing things tonight.
And I'm going to tell you how this whole thing about the UFO whistleblower, Grush, relates to the real story of UFO crash retrieval.
I want to remind you before we go any further tonight to go to darkjournalist.com and sign up for a free newsletter that keeps us in charge, in touch through all of this incredible social media squeeze that's going on.
And, you know, we've seen the censorship, and it is hard and it is heavy.
Let me tell you, I can tell you from Experience that we've done a lot of bobbing and weaving to get around it, but whoa, they've really been amping it up.
And they've been throwing a lot of people off air who are covering Bobby Kennedy for this election because he's doing so well.
And Bobby Kennedy comes up tonight and his candidacy, along with the candidacy of President Trump, become very interesting kind of spotlights in the middle of all this UFO stuff.
I want to bring us back to.
Late April of this year, and a very strange meeting that took place at Wright-Patterson.
This is pretty wild because at the time it was the largest meeting of intelligence figures that had taken place since World War II, when we didn't even have the CIA.
So something was afoot there at Wright-Patterson.
Let's find out what it was.
First of all, if we go, if we dial it back even further, one of the lead people in all of this is Averill Haynes, who is the top cop for the intelligence community.
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And she's the DCI, and she had sort of done all this stuff about UFO Day and, you know, UAPs are here and all this stuff.
And she came in with a big agenda around UFOs.
Now, anyone who is familiar with the whole COVID op setup and the whole event 201 with Gates and all this stuff that happened, In the October before, that's October 2019, will remember that April Haines took part in that and went through the whole motions about how the government would respond in that event.
Now, when she got in after Biden set her up, and I can tell you that just as a quick little sidelight, her background was as the deputy CIA director to John Brennan, the drone king.
And very often they called her the drone queen because she would seek out all of these different ways.
How can we drone United States citizens who are abroad that we think are terrorists?
Of course, that's anti constitutional and all the rest, but she was always finding these different ways for our friend, our friend.
To the CIA director Brennan to be able to do this.
Now, UFOs buzzing US warships may be aliens.
All right.
Now, that's the top intelligence official in America back last year coming out and saying this.
It was a very odd thing for her to be saying.
And Homeland Security was where she said it.
So there's been a coupling of this agency, which is now incredibly bloated, which is Homeland Security with a quarter of a million employees and all the strange things that they've been involved in, including no border security.
And the bust a flea market, but you can bring in as many illegal immigrants as you want.
And they have a lot of ways to make that situation humane at the border as well.
And a lot of the things that they're doing are risky, not only for the people who are going to have to deal with whoever they're sending into this country, but also for those people themselves.
So it's a disaster all around, but they're up to that for a reason.
So, anyway, that's a little background on our friend Avril.
Now, Avril went on board.
And she was leading this Wright Patterson historic national security briefing.
She was right in the heart of it, but what was it all about?
Remember, it started, the setup took place April 19th.
The major meeting was April 20th.
And it was hard to get details on what they were working on, but some of them did come out.
Intelligence leaders see Wright Patterson as a huge component of defense.
Aliens Among Us, top U.S. intelligence officials discuss UFOs in historic.
Briefing, top officials discussed several important issues.
Air Force intelligence leaders start arriving at Wright Patterson Thursday, April 20th, 2023.
So, something big was going on.
And if you go deep into it, you're going to find out over 50 intelligence officials were there.
And Averell Haynes was there in the heart of it.
Top U.S. intelligence officials, including the Director of National Intelligence, Averell Haynes, and the CIA Director, Burns, is another one.
General Paul Nakasone, director of the National Security Agency, convened at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio for a national security briefing on Friday.
One of the things I want to point out about Wright Patterson, if you follow the UFO file and they show, you're going to know very well, which is that's where they keep all of the crash retrieval information.
And so, you know, all of the crafts classically in the 50s and 60s, there was a route there that took everything to Wright Patterson.
Now they've spread it out dramatically throughout this country and other countries.
And underground and in space.
So it's going to be very hard to track it under those circumstances.
But it's well known that Wright Patterson, that's the fingerprint, that's the signature that's going on here.
The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence was also in attendance, including Representative Mike Turner.
The purpose of the briefing was to ensure that intelligence officials are knowledgeable about activities occurring at Wright Patterson, which houses the National Space Intelligence Center.
Now, NASIC.
This is interesting because NASIC, National Air and Space Intelligence Center, so you have NSIC and NASIC.
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Now, NASIC is also where we got wind of this whole thing about Grush because one of the people that was being dangled out there as a whistleblower and saying all these outrageous things, his name was Jonathan Gray.
And when you think about gray aliens, his name becomes pretty obvious.
And when they did a little Investigation on where are you getting this Jonathan Gray guy?
Because we've gone in and, you know, went through all these files.
We can't find him.
And then NASIC said, We don't have any Jonathan Gray.
We don't know who the hell they're talking about.
So then they went back to the debrief people.
And the debrief is a very strange outfit, which I've pointed out here before.
On their first day that they had a website published, CNN was running their stories.
So there's some weird hookup in the background with them.
And one of the things that they had going on.
Was they were saying, you know, they were attributing all these wild quotes to Gray, like, yeah, yeah, we have all these dead aliens and they're stored in these, you know, facilities and all the rest.
While if you look at it, Grush's stuff was all the weird, dancey talk.
So Gray was really the one who could say all these outrageous things.
When they dug into it, they said, well, you know, that was a pseudonym that he was using, but that's his name inside of NASIC.
And then they went back to NASIC and said, is there anyone?
And NASIC said, no, there's nobody named Gray.
So literally, those people could have made it up.
And they could have, this could have been part of the way they rolled it out.
Now, what we found out today, there was a big news blast about Lou Elizondo.
And I'm going to get into this in a different show, but just for the highlights, we found out now that the resignation letter, which I've said during this whole five year period that it's been out there, that the whole thing was manufactured and that he still worked in the government.
Well, lo and behold, records have come out that show that there were two resignation letters.
And that the first resignation letter just said basically, I got a better offer.
And I'm going to work with TTSA.
And the second one was, oh, you know, you're not treating this subject of UFOs seriously, and I'm resigning, and here's some protests and all this stuff.
That one, they don't even know the provenance of it.
If you go into the Defense Department, they're like, we're not even sure how this came to us.
But they slipped it in there into his official file so that when they rolled Elizondo out as this big whistleblower, like they're doing with Grush, the media and the CIA media could be pushed, and they could easily say, oh, this guy ran a UFO.
Program, he resigned in protest and all that stuff.
None of it was true.
Took five years to bust the lie, right?
And we've been on board and given you this information about Elizondo and all the rest.
Now, that story is falling apart just wide in public.
Whether the media is even on board with it, they're like, we don't even know what UFOs are, so they don't know what the programs are.
Ex DOD intelligence officers, UFO claims spark security concerns and confusion, Pentagon memos reveal.
And that's from the Black Volve, who's, you know, John Greenwald, and he's come on this show many times.
He's been laying low lately because I think he took a lot of heat when he came on our show.
But one of the things that's interesting there is they've really exposed this whole thing about the second phony letter.
Here's just a few highlights of this newly released internal DOD memos shed light on security concerns and chronicle the chain of offense in the days and weeks that followed Lou Elizondo's resignations.
And how the UAP videos were published in the New York Times in December 2017.
Now, anyone who's looked into it, who's a serious journalist, you know, Black Vault, New York Post, all these other people, when they've looked into it, they've said, oh, basically about 90% of the article is complete fiction.
And it was, but it was backed up, you know, people kept backing up each other's stories.
And that's the way that that one worked because they needed to try this off about it.
It didn't work out the way that they wanted it to.
Now, despite public statements by the Pentagon asserting Elizondo had no role for ATIP.
They finally were able to say that in June 2019.
The memos show that DOD had made that determination in 2017.
So when he was coming out and saying it, they knew for two years before they came out and busted him.
That's weird.
So somebody was appreciating that he was dangling this.
Details emerge in these documents that outline the security concerns and overall reasoning.
Handwritten notes, likely made by the former Secretary of Defense, express concern over Elizondo's resignation and sudden departure.
From DOD asking if it was a counterintelligence alarm, in quotes, meaning, is he going off to do some counterintel work for us?
Yes, is the answer.
And that's what he was doing.
But it looks to me like the CIA grabbed him out of the work that he was doing there and said, we need you to front this whole role.
A new, never before made public resignation letter submitted by Elizondo surfaced.
The second previously already made public resignation letter said to have uncertain prominence and never delivered to the Secretary of Defense.
Now, The other one, the one that they showed everywhere, was the one that said, I'm resigning because you're not telling the truth about UFOs.
And then they rolled the whole phony story out in the New York Times with Lou as a false whistleblower.
And in fact, he was still working with the government at that time.
The resignation was just inside the office.
And he wrote, Oh, you know, I'm having some personal issues.
And plus, I got a better offer from this company.
That was the reason for resigning from his post there.
But he kept on with the government.
So, the whole thing that Leslie Kane should come out and apologize because that's a complete disgrace.
Everyone associated with the New York Times article took five years, but you heard it here maybe back in 2018 because we went through the facts on it.
Now, the reason I'm pointing that out is not to say, oh, it's so great.
You know, we did everything so great.
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It's just to say how deep the lie is on the CIA side when it comes to UFOs and how we can't wait five years to roll out the disinformation because when they are moving forward the way they are, Around the continuity of government peace, around the emergency peace, around the high stakes nuclear situation in Ukraine, we have to be on top of them and that whole apparatus seizing emergency powers because they can't win a normal election.
We know this.
Second, they don't have the popular support.
So the only way that they can actually rule this game, and this is what Trudeau tried to do in Canada, was through emergency powers.
You know, just like you saw in France, the president of France, Macron, said, Oh, I can't get this stuff through any of the parliament.
Guess what I'm going to do?
I'm just going to press the button of emergency powers and everybody's retirement age goes up.
You know, so they can't do anything through normal channels anymore because people are sort of onto them, as it were.
And that's why you're seeing interference in the 2024 election as well.
Okay, now back to the meeting at Wright Patterson.
So the meeting at Wright Patterson with all these intelligence officials at basically UFO headquarters.
Was meant to say, we need to get together on this UFO threat thing because all different functions have to work in tandem together.
And what you got out of that is a month later, here's the series of different things that took place.
You got the NASA hearings on UFOs.
Of course, you had Senate hearings on UFOs previously.
You got the weird.
You know, flare nonsense thing from George Knapp, which bombed and was leaked to him by the Defense Department.
He said, Oh, we're working on it for two years with Jeremy Corbell, you know, and the whole kind of marketing circus that was going on there.
Next, you had the weird story of basically the tall whites landing there in someone's backyard.
And you had what looked like pretty good footage of something landing.
There, something going down, which was a cop's body cam.
And then you had the weird story hey, there's eight foot tall aliens walking around.
Now, the tall white alien story, the Tall Whites, I've gone into on a couple of occasions here, and I'm going to show you how there are aspects of the Tall Whites story that Charles Hall gives out about his time working at Area 51 that do ring some very interesting bells.
But I think that they were using this theme in this story.
And we're going to get into that aspect as well.
Then we got the Grush rollout and right in tandem with it, almost to kind of beat out some of that momentum, the Greer event happened right after.
And it's interesting if you look at that, because Greer had certain whistleblowers and people with him, but all of the attention and all the oxygen in the room went to this Grush story.
Now, Grush was primed a year earlier.
Previously, by Lou Elizondo, who's the same person who they rolled out, and we've gone over the UFO op and everything that they've done with that.
So, he's another extension, another way for them to keep doing this.
Some of the things that people, I think, in the field need to realize that the level of manipulation by the intelligence agencies around the UFO file now is off the charts and entering into a very dangerous sort of red zone.
And in combination with the earlier incidents that brought in the COG commander through NORAD.
In the February balloon shoot downs and then shooting down UFOs over Canada and Alaska, you know, and then hey, there's this thing coming in from Hawaii, but you know what?
Balloons are okay.
There's no problem there, right?
And we're just going to change those filters.
And hey, look, we see all these UFOs now.
We're in a UFO war.
This is the nature of the op as they've been putting it together.
But the fact of the root of it is kind of like, you know, the Jekyll Island meeting that got the Fed going in 1913.
This meeting.
Of the Wright Patterson intelligence officials.
I'm going to read some very strange things about it as we go in tonight.
And then we're going to figure out how this track back to an obscure, unusual story about a UFO crash in Aztec, New Mexico in 1948.
Everyone, you're watching The Dark Journalist Show, going deep here with you tonight.
It's so great to have so many of you here with us.
This is our special report Cosmic Clearance, Aztec UFO Crash Retrieval.
We're going to go a couple hours with you here tonight.
And so we'll probably, maybe we'll go to about 10 30 Eastern here.
And in the last sort of 30, 45 minutes, we'll take your questions as well.
Miss Olivia, how are we doing out there?
Good.
Jocelyn Buckner says, I saw a tall white in Las Vegas Flamingo Hotel about three in the morning.
No one noticed them waltzing through the noisy casino except me.
We locked eyes and I knew that they weren't from here.
Yeah, it's very interesting.
I'm going to tell you, I'm going to do an interesting aside here.
And the best way to catch up on some of this, I have a new Cosmos Club episode coming out this summer.
One of the interesting things about the Cosmos Club is in real time, while we were kind of covering them, And all the rest of it.
And we'd done some interviews with John Warner IV, who is the son of Senator, the late Senator Warner of Virginia, and Catherine Mellon of the Mellon banking family.
And he had revealed all these things about what his cousin, Chris Mellon, who's part of this Elizondo crush, the whole thing.
And one of the things that came up is they offered him membership for the first time while we were doing this.
So, you know, the Cosmos Club, which I've termed as UFO Bilderberg, is very important.
In the middle of all this, and I'm also going to tell you that not only does it serve as a function as a kind of a UFO headquarters for information, trust me, they have tons of other things going on on the surface.
So that would be very hard, you know, to just pin them down on the UFO side.
But if you go into the history, you're going to find every major player from J. Allen Hynek, Carl Sagan, everyone around the UFO file is deep, deep into the Cosmos Club.
As a matter of fact, they got rid of J. Allen Hynek because he had turned against, uh, You know, the kind of secrecy around Blue Book.
And it's also very interesting that President Kennedy resigned from the Cosmos Club very shortly after becoming a member.
Possibly, you know, I'm really thinking that it had something to do with this fact of what the meetings are set up for.
And they've had a long history.
Now, the man who set it up, John Wesley Powell, we've done a couple of episodes on him, and those run deep.
What I want to say.
About Powell, is, you know, we have him discovering the Grand Canyon, going down the Colorado River.
This is a real pioneer and all the rest of it, but incredibly well funded.
And we have him naming things like, you know, Osiris's Peak and Isis in the Morning.
This is somebody who is coming from a very esoteric place.
And one of the things about the Cosmos Club and how well established it became and how it became a headquarters for, you know, Anything related to space and aerospace companies and the Wright brothers, for heaven's sake, were living there when they were launching their very interesting and somewhat, shall we say, historically in question flights.
It's very interesting.
And Powell has one arm there, but he was stationed and lived for a decade at Cape Girardeau.
Which is where the first major UFO crash retrieval happened.
Now, this is very interesting because I've now found John Wesley Powell in Aztec, New Mexico, also.
So here's this figure who creates basically this UFO Bilderberg before its time, and he's operating, you know, Civil War up to the 19th, early 1900s.
And, you know, he's someone really who, if we look into him deeply, you wouldn't associate ordinarily with the UFO file.
But here he is crisscrossing location wise with all these major places where these UFO incidents occur.
So the Cosmos Club and its purpose and our knowledge about the UFO file, you know, never mind the real ancient part, let's leave that off for now.
There's a whole piece about Atlantis and the Atlantean airships that I'm going to read here later as well, because we need to understand the function of what these.
The whole thing around the UFO file could be.
But one thing I want to point out here when we're dealing with Powell is the knowledge around crash retrievals, crashed UFOs, and the whole thing around advanced craft and groups that were set up to study it may go much further back, may go back into the 19th century.
And his association with these locations and then these later things happening, which were both major early crash retrieval situations around UFOs.
It's just too unusual.
And if you go even a little bit deep into the Cosmos Club, you're going to see the whole organization seems like it's set up around this.
Somebody knew, at least inside there, that the UFO file piece was going to be a major crucial aspect.
And they made his presence in Washington very easy.
He seemed like he had great access to money for organization and expeditions and all the rest of it.
So that's one of the things that we've put forward there.
And he gets very deeply involved in Native American spirituality through the Paiutes and meets up with Wavoca and, you know, everything where the ghost dance comes out.
There's this whole like wild esoteric aspect.
The reason I bring him up is because of this Aztec connection.
And the reason Aztec, New Mexico, the case is, you know, the town is called Aztec because there are very strange Aztec ruins there.
But this is New Mexico.
And so we find a group of, Aztecs went to New Mexico and they created a culture there.
Now, if we look at Aztec New Mexico over time, you know, it develops as kind of a mining community, oil, things of this nature.
And it's pretty well spread out.
It's kind of in the middle of nowhere there on the northwest, the north side of New Mexico.
And what's interesting is when we're getting into What's going on around the crash is you're coming out of a period when you get to 1948 in New Mexico where you've just had the Roswell crash and all the security precautions and everything has been amped up, etc.
You also have all the nuclear testing and everything else going on around there.
So you're in an interesting wing of the whole thing, shall we say.
And so what we have to kind of put ourselves in mind around this crash is it's the next big crash to happen.
And so it happens in March of 48.
You go back to Roswell, it's July.
Then, before that, in June, you have the Kenneth Arnold sighting.
So, the whole UFO thing is at this incredible fever pitch.
Now, the story and how it gets out and how it's stifled is interesting because, much like the Roswell story, it's stifled when it hits.
And in this case, it involves a very well known journalist named Frank Scully.
And it's interesting, too, when we look at Scully, because.
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He's someone that I think already in a very early period is deep into secrecy.
But he's also a very popular figure.
He's almost like a Tony Robbins of his time.
It's like a we can do it kind of a guy.
And he's popular as a journalist, as a writer with all these books.
And he's had tremendous health issues that he's come through.
And so he becomes an inspirational figure going around and leading lectures and being like, let's be the best Americans we can be, and this kind of thing.
If you go back into his history a little bit, you're going to find him in unusual places.
Here he is around unusual, this is 1923.
And again, the societies he's meeting with are basically secret Catholic societies.
And later on, it's going to be Pope Pius VII.
In the order of St. Gregory the Great, that he will become knighted into this order.
And so we're looking at somebody who has deep, deep connections early on and then becomes a very successful journalist.
What happens is he hears a story, but he's living in Los Angeles and he's just ghost written a biography for a major motion picture star.
And he was well known as a writer and they had him do this very often.
And he's heard a story about someone who's going around calling himself Mr. X.
But the intel that he has about Mr. X is that Mr. X is actually a millionaire.
And that Mr. X is giving these scientific lectures of really advanced concepts around magnetism, physics, and all the rest of it.
And he wants to kind of connect with this Mr. X and figure out what's going on here and all the rest of it.
The connection happens in Mr. X, who we find out is Mr. X, becomes a very interesting character.
And that's Silas Newton.
I want to do a quick crisscross here.
If you're familiar with The Man Who Fell to Earth, of course, Bowie plays Thomas Jerome Newton, and he's an alien visitor who has crashed in the New Mexico desert.
And, you know, so the correlation there is very interesting, especially when you realize Walter Travis wrote The Man Who Fell to Earth in 1963.
Even though the movie's not made till the 70s.
And I am sure that the inspiration goes deep on that.
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Let's see here.
What happens as a result of that is he realizes I have this great story, and this, you know, Professor X is giving me all the deep details.
And what happens while he's getting all this information from Silas Newton, who is an oil millionaire, and this guy has been working with a very secret scientific group.
In association with Vannevar Bush.
And the group is all based around magnetics and how magnetic energy is the future and all the rest.
So, the group that he's associated with from 1936 to 1942 is this whole company that's developing these unusual experimental energy sources.
And that's how Vannevar Bush gets involved with them because he is deeply involved.
As we know, on the scientific side in the government.
And if we go into the statements over time, we know that Vannevar Bush was in charge of the UFO file for a number of decades.
Now, what's interesting is Scully feels like he has the green light to go forward.
And he writes Behind the Flying Saucers.
And Behind the Flying Saucers is a book in 1950 that just becomes outrageously popular.
And although there are a couple of books, I think Donald Kehoe has a book out by then about the UFO.
Cases that are coming up.
He's a former pilot who flew with Lindbergh, and you know, Lindbergh saw tons of UFOs on his flights.
Uh, this is the first real breakthrough.
This is the year that punk broke, and um, so we have Scully really doing the yeoman's work of putting this out before the public.
The fundamental concept is that there was a UFO crash in March of 1948 in Aztec, New Mexico, and that they recovered a crash hole, and inside of the craft, they found 16 dead aliens.
Now, the government, the military goes in there and over the course of three weeks pulls that thing off of the Mesa where it's crashed.
Now, just quickly before we go into it, I'm going to talk a little bit about this Mr. X because of the ex steganography so closely associated with this program.
Ex steganography largely comes out of Vannevar Bush and the work that he was doing, the secrecy and the work that he was doing around applying Masonic.
Methods of secrecy to government programs.
So, although the mystery schools had the ex steganography, you can find it in going all the way back to the Book of the Dead and beyond.
There's a number of episodes that we've done that are just about ex steganography.
What I want to point out here is instantly when the story starts, you're dealing with ex steganography.
Like, there's no hesitation.
Silas Newton sets off the entire flying saucer.
Craze in this book, and he is his whole title has been Mr. X until his identity gets exposed beyond his control, and then he has to live up and say, Okay, yeah, I am the oil millionaire.
Now, Mr. Newton rose to prominence for a very different reason.
Initially known only as the mysterious Mr. X, Newton notoriously gave a lecture to a host of science students at Denver University March 8, 1950.
Mr. X was touted as an expert on UFOs, a relatively newfound craze that was very popular at the time, according to Frank Scully's 1950 book.
Behind the flying saucers.
Following the presentation, many inquiries were made by shady government types, primarily Air Force officials, trying to ascertain the identity of the speaker.
The Air Force has consistently, resoundingly denied they had any interest, et cetera.
So we have this is Silas Newton when he's giving those lectures.
So he's already, you know, a middle aged guy, and Scully finds him absolutely fascinating and realizes the group that he's connected with.
Are nine other scientists.
And what he wants to do is he wants to put them on the record, but keep them totally secret.
So he calls them Mr. G.
So all nine of them get rolled into one composite character named Mr. G.
And of course, Mr. X is our friend.
Now, this does, you know, Scully sets off a huge part of the UFO craze by going deep into this.
And his lectures are with it, are getting very popular.
He's used the information from Silas Newton about the secret group.
And the other thing, like I said, he only has one leg.
You know, earlier I showed you that our friend John Wesley Powell had one arm and, you know, had gotten through all this.
This guy is dealing with incredible health risks, but he has this incredible kind of buoyant character.
Here he is with one leg giving these lectures on UFOs and just bringing it across.
Now, a couple of the early articles around, Mr. X interests me because it was people in the media who unmasked who the actual character was, but he must have known it was coming.
The mystery surrounding Mr. X, who lectured at the University of Denver class on flying discs last week, was believed to be learned on Friday after a student and several others claimed to have identified him from photos of Silas Newton.
And there's the actual story revealing our Mr. X steganography.
And there's a few of these students identify Saucer Speaker.
Mystery that shrouded the identity of Mr. X.
The picture presented for identification was that of Silas Newton, the president of Newton Oil.
And he's from Colorado.
The picture was at the Denver Post Library.
And Mr. X was getting a very large, curious audience being like, how does this guy know?
Like, what is he talking about?
And how does he know so much about physics, magnetics, and the UFO file?
So this guy was laying it out there.
And then Scully.
Hops on board, gets the inside dope from him, and writes a book.
And that book becomes very popular.
Now, in the middle of all that, there's another journalist who wants to get in on the whole thing.
And what he does, I believe he's sent in by the FBI because the FBI were really after Scully and this story.
And they were trying to get Scully to reveal who are the scientists who are working on the UFO.
Because there was a split there where the CIA and the Defense Department really ran away with the UFO.
File and the group, the X Protect group around aerospace in particular, kept it out of the hands of the FBI.
The FBI followed them on their heels using Guy Bannister to follow up on the CIA flight cases to see if they could develop their own.
That's where the whole X Files comes from.
So we have an interesting crisscross there where the FBI decides we're going to put some real pressure on this situation.
And what they do is they send in this journalist to try to discredit Newton.
Now they say, well, Newton, there's somebody who has a case against Newton for saying he sold them like a fraudulent oil field.
And that somehow he was using the popularity of this UFO stuff in order to do this.
Now, Newton, if you go into him, he's like, he has $25 million as net worth in 1948.
So, you know, he's basically, I think that translates about $500 million.
So this guy is not.
You know, some slouch scammer, uh, you know, he has a long history and he is in the oil business and he's deep on the whole UFO side.
Now, it's interesting what they need to do is set up a situation where they're like, Well, him and this other guy basically invented this UFO story, etc.
But if you look at the story, you can see very clearly that, um, he was coming forward giving the details and that the FBI was trying to get this out of the headlines because they wanted to do their own research on it.
They also wanted Scully to cough up the source.
Now, Scully cited this over and over again and said he was getting this pressure.
And this is a period when, you know, we had the whole blacklisting and all these types of things, and the whole, you know, your un American activities committee.
So it was very easy to push people around with that.
Of course, it's easy to push people around now, too.
Now, here is what Scully wrote when looking back on the situation.
He said, like a pathologist, I dealt with grounded saucers and dead crews.
Since then, several personal histories dealing with active saucers and live crews have been published.
And nobody, either in or out of the saucer inquiry, has seen fit to hang on the historians the word hoax.
Certainly nobody has gone around saying those historians admitted their story was a hoax.
Just why was I singled out for the dubious honor?
Is it because behind the flying saucers is the keystone of this arc, and the enemies of honest research believe if they can knock it down, the rest of it will fall like a house of cards?
He continued, just think of how modern this sounds.
As everyone agrees that the Pentagonians have not given up the whole truth on the saucer mystery, it must be consoling to them to get a new crop each year to tear down the Scully Bastion and thus continue to divide and rule.
Now, this whole thing about divide and rule is a commentary on secret societies.
So it's very interesting that he's using it here on the Pentagon, suggesting the Pentagon are acting as agents of this secret society that wants to divide and rule.
Now, Scully had his own connections, like I said, and he also had a trait, which was that he, you know, he was flamboyant, but he was impeccably honest.
And so when he did the book, he thought, I'm laying this out, I'm bringing this truth out.
So he took it on as almost a crusade when they pushed back against him.
And Silas Newton, they created this whole story about, you know, oh, he promised an oil field to this guy.
They took it to court.
And, um, What happened was, in the end, if you look at that, even though they'll say like Silas Newton was a hoaxer and all this kind of thing, if you drill down into it, and you can drill down into it through the Suzanne and Scott Ramsey book on Aztec UFOs, they've done the real hardcore history on it.
And they're amazing.
There's another fantastic book on it by Bill Steinman.
And it's interesting because I've used him.
Over and over again, on, and he's a very, he was a really kind of wild UFO researcher.
But he's the guy who hunted down our friend Sarbacher.
And we got the whole, you know, lineage of the UFO file and who controlled it through the top physicist, one of the top physicists in the United States who was retired and was like, you know, I don't know why they didn't sort of release this program and set it out and tell people what was going on because, you know, not only did they have crash retrievals, but the beings inside were like insects, you know.
And we figured out maybe that's how they kind of suck up the speed and all the rest of it because they're constructed.
Somebody made them.
I mean, this is pretty advanced.
An interesting story that Wendell Stevens, who co wrote the book Crash at Aztec, UFO Crash at Aztec, and it's a gigantic book.
It's so big that I can't even lift it up right here.
It's gigantic.
But it's Wendell Stevens who co wrote the book, and Wendell Stevens did so much around the UFO field.
One of the interesting things that he notes about the way that Sarbaker died is that after talking and confirming all the things that he said to Steinman,
to other UFO researchers, the same year the book comes out, and he was living up here, actually, he was living in Cambridge, and he goes to open his car door, and there's a jelly substance on it.
And he drives in and he calls his son and he says, You know, there's something weird going on.
There was this like jelly type stuff on my car door.
And as soon as I touched it, I started to feel weird.
So I checked into the hospital.
And that's the end of Saar Barker.
So, you know, they definitely, that whole kind of X Protect thing, you could just call it bad timing, but that's sort of the kind of weird time.
What's interesting about Saar Barker is he gives us the lineage of the UFO file, who controlled it and what they were doing.
And he was somebody who was working deep.
And side by side with people like Oppenheimer and all the rest.
And if you look into that history, you'll find him Saturday Evening Post, 1950.
You know, this guy was celebrated.
And as I've said before, now there's not even a Wikipedia page about him.
So left out of the histories, shall we say.
The other person who he could count as a best friend and who he went on trips together every year to Cuba with was Thomas Townsend Brown.
So, you know, we've done some interesting stories about those two.
My point is.
When we're getting around Sarbaker, we're getting around this idea of crash retrievals, how they were worked out, who was assigned, and who was controlling the UFO file over time.
It was Vanderver Butch for a long stretch, and then John von Neumann, Arthur Compton, these other guys.
He basically gives us the point.
And I think we can figure out, von Neumann also dies in an unusual fashion.
But I think we can figure out that the people who were in charge around the Manhattan. Project were gifted at secrecy.
And when they came to the UFO file, according to Sarbarker, they prized the secrecy around the UFO file even above that of the nuclear program.
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Think about that.
And then it makes sense why we're in the middle of so many CIA hoaxes in relation to this.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show, deep, deep tonight here with you on the UFO file.
This is a special report Cosmic Clearance, the Aztec UFO crash retrieval.
We're sort of giving that mirror on deep state.
False CIA disclosure and Dave Grush and Lou Elizondo and the whole gang.
We're going to be here with you.
We'll go with you for about another hour here.
We're going to take questions on the second part of that hour tonight.
Before I go any further, Miss Olivia, how are we doing out there?
Good.
Contiki Man says Does the book mentioned refer to the blue berets of Camp Hale, one of supposedly three IPU crash retrieval units in the U.S. tasked with the Aztec crash?
Well, what's interesting is subsequent, you know, the book kind of opened a number of things up.
But the book, remember, is from 1950.
So it opens up all this information for people to track back to.
So you'll find things like that in the literature that spawned from this book.
And I still recommend the book in the form that it was in in 1950.
Understand that and read through it, and then hop into some of the work.
That Steinman did with the UFO book on Aztec and then all the Ramsey information.
You pretty much get a good.
What's interesting is when I talked to Stanford Friedman about this before he passed away, he gave me a very strong indication that he had learned, you know, because he was really the guy who brought the Roswell case forward.
He had learned the Aztec case on a deep level from the Ramses.
So he had changed his tune and said, oh, you know what?
This one is just as viable as the Roswell case.
So that's interesting.
Can I throw something in?
Sure.
Dow John Smuller says Bruce Willis used that car door poison in the movie The Jackal.
Oh, isn't that interesting?
Well, it's good to know, actually.
And that movie, I've heard some interesting things about that.
But that apparently is a classic Intel technique.
And certainly X Protect has been known to use very crude methods at times.
A couple of things about Vannevar Bush.
We've covered him extensively on this program, but he shows up here in the middle of all this because he's involved with Silas Newton.
And he calls in a group to study magnetism, and Silas Newton is one of the scientists that he uses.
Now, he is also someone who reaches out to Einstein and others to examine the Aztec crash.
This becomes important for us to understand what's going on in the background.
So, on the surface, there's a bunch of denials about UFOs and everything else in that era, and underneath, they're studying it like crazy.
But it's very important.
On top to not mention it.
So they have a lot of people who are involved in studying it, the whole kind of MJ12 legend.
That whole piece and the people involved, they're studying the deeper levels of this.
And on the surface, you know, guys like Menzel are leading a double life because he's over here at Harvard debunking the whole thing and then to the public and creating things like the Robertson panel where they can shoot it all down.
And behind the scenes, they're furiously figuring out what's going on with this.
Now, We have to also remember that what they're dealing with goes beyond just, you know, well, we've fallen into this thing and, you know, we've got some aliens here.
It's very different.
One of the things that is noted in the witnesses who have gone in and were redeveloping and trying to work with the craft, some of those came forward in retirement at the end of their life, the Aztec witnesses.
And what they said, what they remembered is that no scientist could go in there and do any study longer than 20 minutes.
So, being around the apothecary of the UFO crash and the UFO itself was not something that was healthy for a human being.
It's very interesting because you notice that there's a lot of time stoppage stuff when it comes to UFOs and time missing, and all this time has disappeared.
So, there's a time factor that gets distorted.
That's one.
But also notice that UFO abductions, they never really kept people, usually, it was like an hour or something like that.
There's a weird exception.
In the Travis Walton case, which I've always wondered, you know, it's made me wonder if that was more of a my lab type situation, although you never know.
And, but, you know, keeping someone for a long period of time like that is unusual because there's something about what's going on with their environments when they're bringing them here that is not compatible with physical reality for human beings.
So the apotheum that we see, the whole distortion of time space.
You know, there was a case recently where a guy came forward and said, you know, there was this small craft that we went into and we went into it.
It was gigantic.
That whole line of UFO witness thing goes deep.
If you look into John Mack's work, there's a lot of that.
So there's the distortion and stretching of reality.
There's a lot of cases of abduction that John Mack, the professor from Harvard who passed away in the early 2000s, but did intensive work and, you know, was really.
Pilloried and harangued by the media.
He was someone who would study these cases and he got obsessed around the idea that wait a minute, people being abducted, but they're getting abducted through walls and things.
When these craft abduct them, they're in the bedroom and they go right through the wall and out to the craft.
How is that happening?
Is that just them imagining it?
But there's too many of them.
So there's a kind of a physics, a reality distortion that takes place around all of this.
That's what they've been up against in the X Protect side.
That's why you get so much lethal secrecy, in my opinion, which is the cascading effect from those apothegm distortions, create a situation that they can't quite aim or control the thing.
And I think over time, they've certainly learned a good deal about it and how to do that.
Another interesting thing that comes into this is psychic activity.
And that's going to come up as an important aspect of this.
But let's keep our friend Bush in mind as we go along here, because he was the key figure in determining who got what, just like he's the guy who sent in Trump's uncle, John Trump, to get the Tesla information.
Well, it's interesting because I found out some things from, if you go into the Corso information, that he's crisscrossing Tesla with the alien technology.
This is very unusual indeed.
But there's John Trump at the end of his life.
Talking about how Vannevar Bush, his mentor, set him up with DeGraaff so he could study this very unusual microwave energy development.
And a lot of that is the same fundamental fabric around the CERN Hadron Collider, all of that, particle physics and the smashing of particles and all that.
That's all John Trump deep in there.
And he's saying, you know, I couldn't have done any of it without my mentor, Vannevar Bush, over there at MIT.
And it is Vannevar Bush who sends him in to get Tesla's papers.
In 1943.
And it's very funny because, in the middle of all this, you know, popular mechanics, you know, so we have this whole thing about, oh, you know, Grush is giving us the truth about, you know, UFO crash retrievals and dead pilots and all this kind of stuff, right?
You see everybody running away with the story, although he actually hasn't said anything that he's had personal experience of.
He's just sort of reflected these conversations from other people.
And like I said, he's been very sneaky.
And the example that I used when I started the program is, you know, he gives answers like, they're like, so, you know, are there aliens being kept in storages?
And he was like, you know, he'll say things like, well, you know, flies get caught in spiders' webs.
So, you know, it's like, you know, very strange kind of language, which you, and then everyone jumps to the conclusion that this is the thing that's being talked about.
So he's put out there as a dangle, and I expect them to do even more with that.
But you've had some of the real intelligentsia out there really falling for this.
And unfortunately, I've spotlighted some of them here, and they do good work in other areas.
But like Schellenberger, all these people who basically are going into this, Eric Weinstein, all this kind of activity around the UFO file, people who haven't gone after it before are going into it.
And then in the case of Schellenberger, he's like, oh, we're all set because these 12 CIA guys told me all about the UFO file and how we're keeping this stuff and how we can lead a movement to go to these different facilities and get this stuff.
Look, To people like Schellenberg out there, you have to understand who you're dealing with.
You can't deal with intelligence people and expect to get the truth.
That's one.
Two, if they're all counterintelligence people, then they're trained to lie, and that's part of their job, as it were.
And you're basically their patsy.
So why are they going to give a journalist things that they've kept back from the public for 80 years?
It doesn't make any sense.
It's the kind of weird wishful thinking that gets us into these.
Situations where you have Wired Magazine being like, Hey, is the CIA going to give us disclosure?
So there's a kind of a pathetic thing going on there.
And what you have is a very serious effort of sort of mainstreaming the whole UFO file issue.
But unfortunately, the effort is for the false mainstreaming of the thing.
So, like the CIA people go on and they'll go on like a Joe Rogan or something like that.
And they'll sit there and he'll be like, wow, man, there's aliens, huh?
And the CIA people are like, not only that, but they're a threat, you know?
And so, Mellon, Chris Mellon was on Joe Rogan's thing.
You know, when you watch these different things, they're setting up the threat narrative, basically what's going on there.
And that's not just Rogan.
I believe a guy like Rogan is probably trying to get to the bottom of it, but you can't, you know?
I've pointed this out on a number of shows.
They've said, you know, what's the best Joe Rogan alien show?
And I always say, he hasn't done any alien shows.
These are all.
CIA cutouts going on this program and trying to drum up a UFO threat.
So you're getting a lot of false disclosure.
And eventually, what they'll probably do is roll Grush out there, you know, and he'll do this circuit.
I've already heard now in the background he has a tour planned.
He has a history channel documentary series thing planned.
And, you know, that's cool.
Like, do all the stuff that you want to do.
But for me, you know, if you were a real whistleblower, you couldn't do any of that stuff.
One, you know, it's like the Elizondo thing.
You know, real whistleblowers go to jail.
You know, they're under peril and they're offering some kind of real sacrifice.
And so I resented it when Grush came on and said, Oh, you know, all the chances that I'm taking and the bravery I'm showing is, I guess, because I'm such a good Boy Scout.
Well, I don't get that he's a good Boy Scout.
My impression is that he's evaded a lot of straight answers and that there's no tough, you know, questions being put to the guy.
As a matter of fact, my offer stands to have a gentleman's debate.
With him or Elizondo right on this program.
But they can't do that because that'll be the end of their operation.
They'll never get to tours and pushing the CIA line because if they get on this program, it'll be pretty easy for me to spotlight for the audience where they're dancing.
And I wouldn't let them get away with dancing.
So when you have people like Russ Cothard and all these guys and this kind of thing, they're just playing up.
Like I said, it's like when Knapp interviews these guys and he says, Well, are you a hero or a legend, you know, or a heroic legend?
The question is Are you working for an intelligence agency?
Are you still, even though you're retired, connected with the United States government?
And in that capacity, if you were operating, say, in a counterintelligence capacity, would you lie to the public to forward a program that the United States government thinks is in their best interest?
And if they were being honest, they would have to clip themselves and say, well, I can't answer that question, because they are still working for the government.
Elizondo was still working for the government.
I pointed that out.
This guy's working for the government, too.
And that's where it gets dangerous in the background because we're being.
You know, these people are supposed to be dropped in as innocent truth tellers, giving us the real facts.
But in fact, we're the ones who are getting flim flammed from all this.
That's the key.
And that's where the alternative independent media can make the difference that the fluff media or the podcasts on that level, you know, like you can't get it.
You're not going to get it from Megyn Kelly.
You know, they might be great with other things, but they don't know anything about the UFO file.
That's a problem because the CIA can flim flam the whole media.
Group, and that's what they've been successfully doing under the guise of false disclosure.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show deep, deep tonight on cosmic clearance and the Aztec UFO crash retrieval, where we're learning some things crisscrossing from 1948 to 2023 and everything in between.
We're going to take your questions here shortly, but I'm going to go back and go a little bit deeper on crash retrievals and such.
I want to give us a couple of pieces about this crush thing so we understand what we're talking about.
So, the basic theme military whistleblower goes public with claims USS secret UFO retrieval program.
Okay, so what Cole Hart says in that interview is this is the first time that any American official has come forward and said any of this, right?
And then he says, I'm scared because.
You're scaring me because you're saying this non human intelligence, this NHI, is actually has killed people.
Non-Human Intelligence Threats00:13:16
And then, you know, so it's interesting because Grush in his response says, Yeah, that appears to be the case.
Not that I've seen it or I know about it or anything, just that appears to be the case.
You know, it's kind of like asking him, Well, you know, do you think there's a God?
And he's like, Yeah, that appears to be the case.
It's one of those.
Well, here's someone who outranks Grush, who went on the record in the late 90s about crash retrievals, dead aliens, craft and storage, and that's Philip Corso.
And he did it 25 years ago.
Apparently, Coldheart doesn't know any of that history because at last count, I found 26 different intelligence guys who have all come forward and talked about crash programs, including Jesse Marcel, who, after all, was talking about a UFO crash, and he's the guy who started the whole Roswell thing.
Um, but our friend Corso gave us a lot of indications there that what happened was we redeveloped the technology and inserted it through corporate America to make different types of leaps in our own technology, and uh, that in the background they were working to really kind of size it up.
Now, I don't think Corso gave a lot of very telling information in there, and that's shared by people who've gone uh very deep on it for me.
There's a lot of things that he never even got to, you know.
And it's interesting that when he died, he was under all of these lawsuits.
So, this is not someone who was celebrated in the media by any stretch of the imagination.
But it is very interesting because we have a piece here, Corso, on Tesla.
And I find it interesting that as he's giving Tesla all these compliments, there's the same type of language about how the Tesla technology was reworked inside the government.
We got all these advancements out of it.
Because the UFO file, the X technology lives inside of that UFO file.
But the technology itself, the effect of that X technology, does not necessarily have to be just some extraterrestrial craft coming in here.
The idea is, you know, I'm going to put a few things on the record here that incorporate the mystery school understanding around these things.
Let's start with this.
So, one of the big arguments against UFO crashes is that, well, you can get all the way across the galaxy, but then when you get to Earth, you crash.
Come on.
If you look at the law of accident in Gurdjieff's work, He says that there's a certain amount of accident that has to take place on planet Earth because of its relationship to the moon, and that there's no getting around it.
So, we know when we tally up things from the year, you're going to find a certain amount of accidents on the highways.
You're going to find a certain amount of train accidents.
You're going to find a certain amount of plane crashes because we all live under the law of accident.
That's the physical realm, that's the physical reality.
Why something coming here should be able to defy the reality that we're inside.
Uh, doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
The question is, you know, if they come here and crash, then what is it that's going on?
Well, it's interesting because if you go to the Four Corners area and you're thinking about Utah and New Mexico and Arizona and all that, you're going to find an incredible concentration of UFO cases there.
Now, one of the things that Casey has pointed out in relation to that area is it's been one of the oldest areas that stayed above ground.
For many, many millennia.
Now, if you think about that, if they knew it was a very steady haven, whoever visited here or whoever was advanced who stayed here, they could have easily made that their home.
And so a number of bases could be there.
Now, that gets into some interesting area around ancient technology and how that plays into this, because we have a few options for what these things could be.
One of them is interstellar off world travelers visiting here.
That's certainly a viable possibility.
The other possibility is you're dealing with a group that was advanced as an ancient culture, maintained themselves side by side with humanity, was a little more advanced, and over time became a lot more advanced.
And that we're dealing with them as a kind of a cohabitation here on Earth, and we're getting indications we bump into them because we're seeing their technology.
And so we've had this going on, this question about it.
You have the whole question about interdimensionals coming in.
So let's break it down then.
It's UFOs from another star system, it is Atlantean technology from this planet that has been kept and the groups still operate with, or it is interdimensionals coming in from their dimension into ours, but still using physical craft and things of this nature.
Let's just get a little bit on the Atlantean side because you know this is the X series after all.
All right.
This, from Philo the Tibetan, is his version now.
It's around 1903 of the ships that the Atlanteans used.
It looks like a big old cigar shaped ship.
Now, this is kind of advanced in any case, but those are the ships that he said they were operating.
If you go into Casey's work, you'll see that he talks a lot about the Atlantean technology.
And when they asked him, Outright, what was the technology like?
Casey literally said it was like what Ezekiel saw, but that was a much later date.
So somebody had kept that technology between the end of Atlantis and 10,500 BC, bringing it up to around, you know, 2000 BC when Ezekiel was around.
Let's get a couple of Casey's quotes on the record around this so we understand, and then we'll go back to the crash retrievals.
So he's going into someone's history there and their past lives.
And he says, this entity was among the priestesses of the Mayan experience.
It was just before that period when those of the East had come, and there were beginnings of the unfoldments of the understandings that were other portions of the same land, or those that were visiting from other worlds or planets.
So that's pretty clear.
Somebody was coming in.
So there's a reference there on one hand, but then you get another reference that gives you another idea.
Because remember, Casey died in 45.
That's before the UFO wave hit.
So it wasn't really open conversation.
So the way he's speaking about it is quite interesting.
He says here, speaking of Atlantean technology, the entity was among those who were able to carry the messages through space to other lands and the guider of the crafts of that period.
Hence, the mechanical side, the mystery side of many conditions influenced this entity.
And then he goes on to say.
Before that, we find this entity was in the Atlantean land when there were the preparations of those things that pertain to the ability of the application of various elements known as electrical forces in the present day.
Now, one of the things they were able to do with the various crafts that carried individuals from place to place, and what may be known in the present as the photographing from a distance, or the fields of activity that showed the ability for reading inscriptions through walls, even at a distance, or for preparations of the elevations in various activities.
Where there was the overcoming of what is termed today the forces of nature or gravity itself, anti gravity, anti gravity ships, they already had them.
So you're going back 20,000 years and they already have anti gravity ships.
So the fact that we're encountering this stuff as soon as we rediscover flight maybe isn't so unusual when you consider it from that level.
But it is very mysterious.
And then he goes on to say, Many of the preparations for the crystal, the mighty, terrible crystal, two eye stone, that made for the active principles were a portion of the activity of the entity that experienced.
Much of it brought destruction, hence, was not for the glorifying of spiritual forces.
Hence, destructive forces and constructive forces were both influences in that experience.
And then he goes on to say that they developed a group.
Within the priestess group that were Atlanteans into Mayans, who were predicting events to come because they wanted to foresee what kind of disasters were hitting Atlantis and before it was going to go down.
Now, it's pretty interesting because, again, on the Atlantean airships, Casey's work has been advanced on so many other areas.
We've gotten so much information from him.
So, when we think about it, when he's speaking about Atlantean craft, and this is 1924 or something, it's kind of advanced in a way that Casey's work is always mysterious.
But this area in particular, which, again, I've pointed out, even the Casey Foundation is kind of afraid of this information.
That he gave out and its implications.
And very often they'll say, like, well, we don't know, you know, about his Atlantis readings or whatever.
Because, you know, they have this idea about self improvement and religious ideas and things of that.
So they want to emphasize the fact that, you know, Casey was a good Sunday school teacher and things like that.
But the heart of the Casey readings, there's over 900 readings dealing with Atlantis.
That's a lot.
There's a whole history in there.
And there's a reason why the mystery schools put that in there.
That's.
Part of our own rediscovery.
So we have all that period coming in through Steiner, through Theosophy, and through the Casey work, and then you get the UFO wave.
You have to put those two together to make any sense.
Miss Olivia, what do you got?
Belle Donala says Are we a safari destination for off worlders?
I mean, I don't see why not.
You know, and there's enough stories that would lead you to believe that.
You know, the idea that UFOs tend to reside around water, for example, I find very interesting.
And the whole USO thing that they're just hanging out underwater, that seems to me not only a good way to stay out of sight, but also, you know, maybe something that we can offer them in that sense.
Now, I think that you can get by the On the UFO side, thinking of it on a different level than just nuts and bolts spacefarers coming here, however.
And if you go, you know, you have different levels of looking at things.
I mean, look at the Nephilim, look at the Watchers.
There's something active which is maybe, you know, dealing with something that Casey calls the principalities of the earth.
So there's some other intelligence residing here.
And this is where I think there's a mystery aspect, which isn't going to be solved by, hey, I figured out flying saucers.
You know, apparently there's something that goes even deeper than that.
Now, here's the Casey quote that kind of opens up the real UFO file, if you can find it.
It's in Casey reading 820 1.
Before that, we find the entity was in the Atlantean land during those periods where there began to be the rebellious forces that destroyed.
Disputed those acts and laws pertaining to the communications with what is termed in the present as unseen forces, or to those hierarchies that are given rule over the activities in various forms in the earth.
That could be a big key to the UFO file, what he's saying there, that there's something, there's basically an unseen force that we're side by side with.
So you have to draw in, for me, you're going to have to go.
On one side, deep into the mystery schools to solve the UFO mystery.
Deep State Misinformation Tactics00:09:59
And then on the other side, you're going to have to adopt almost like a deep state investigative technique in order to bypass the CIA misinformation disclosure.
So you need both.
You need both in order to go forward.
The problem with so much of the UFO material is it doesn't have any of the insight of the deep state researchers who are very familiar with how the government works.
They study assassinations, things of this nature, and their work is thick and it's heavy to get through.
But everything from 9 11 to the JFK assassination, all these things represent how the government operates on a deep level, even to the point of removing the chief official if they're not playing ball.
So you have to be on that level.
You can't be on the level of, like, hey, I'm around when disclosure happens and the government's great now and the CIA are our buddies, because that places you back in the worst possible scenario of ignorance.
And that's the nature of what we're dealing with.
And that's where the whole Grush thing is coming from, because what they want you to believe like, look what the craft is that they've put next to Grush.
That's the same TTSA graph, it's got the TTSA copyright on it.
This is the nature of the false information they've been giving out.
And we know that NASA even has debunked that craft, which was called the Go Fast.
That thing is actually only going 40 miles an hour.
And I was told that three years ago.
So, you know, now I want to mention this.
During the Grush rush, he came out with all of his medals.
He had the pictures ready.
That's very Elizondo trick, you know.
Elizondo had his pictures ready, he was disgruntled.
He was upset because his superiors didn't take him seriously.
Well, this guy has all his medals ready.
So it's like if you say anything against him, you're talking against those medals.
But it's not true, actually, because somebody can have all those medals and then, you know, either be given false information or he could be lying as part of a government disinformation program.
So, you know, the medals show the service, but it might also show dedication to the cause.
Now, and so the only point that matters is what kind of evidence have you presented for the testimony that you've given?
Well, we haven't seen any of it.
He claims, oh, I gave a bunch of stuff to the government committees.
So there are problems.
There's lots of inconsistencies.
And for me, there's outright evasions and lying going on in the Grush interview.
But I think that we have to take him as a sign of things to come.
And I think that they're going to up the ante more as they put themselves into this UFO emergency, UFO threat, emergency powers pose.
And to me, that gets the crisscross between NORAD.
And UFOs, and that's why you saw the NORAD commander saying, We shot down UFOs, and I don't know if they were aliens, which is a very provocative, weird thing for Van Hurck to have said.
All he had to say was, You know, we're looking into what we shot down, or whatever it was.
And giving this impression and getting that headline from the New York Times, the US shoots down UFOs, that's what they wanted because they need to sort of stress test the audience and data mine what kind of reactions we're going to have with that.
Okay, so let's go a little bit further on this.
I want to say that the 2024 campaign, as I've done in the last couple of episodes, I've tried to get everyone up to snuff about what we're dealing with here.
And the UFO aspect and UFO disclosure, the false disclosure from the CIA or the real thing that we could get, is going to be at the heart of the 2024 election.
There's no getting around it.
I mean, you know, the time is now.
They've already signaled it.
It's already.
The football is already in the air.
I've pointed out that Robert Bigelow is the biggest donor to Ron DeSantis in his campaign for president.
You have to ask yourself why.
And he's gone on the record saying, I will spend every cent that I have and I'll eat, you know, basically cheese food in order to let this guy become president.
Why is he doing that?
Well, this aspect of him getting, you know, DeSantis getting these incredible donations, you know, $10 million, $20 million, $30 million from our friend already shows that we're in the UFO file piece of the campaign.
2024 is already on, it's already afoot.
Now, I've pointed out on this program and said to the RFK campaign, get on top of the issue around UFOs, get out there and make sure it's a big part of your campaign.
And this is the family piece associated with the UFO file, President Kennedy, Robert Kennedy.
Really brought this to a different level.
And in fact, President Kennedy was assassinated over his knowledge of the UFO file.
Now, on the Trump side, also, you know, Trump has dangled it out there.
He's already been in the presidency, he's used those aspects, and he's even done a little bit of the heavy poker playing with the UFO file with these guys.
However, publicly, the Trump campaign, in order to be competitive in 2024, needs to make Aspects of the UFO file piece front and center for his campaign because this is the time to do it.
And they're already hatching and rolling out their version of false disclosure.
If you don't get the real stuff out there, then everybody's going to get caught up in the morass of what they're doing with the committee that's operating the Biden administration and the kind of freak stuff that they're doing that comes directly out of that Wright Patterson meeting from April 20th.
So I do see that some of these campaigns are taking my advice.
And that's the thing that they need to bring forward.
The other thing I pointed out about Robert Kennedy's campaign, and I have some things I printed out about that, but basically, there's some very good signs that he may be going after Biden.
And that's what Bobby needs to do.
So, Bobby, if you're listening tonight, take the gloves off and go after Biden.
I know it's tempting to just hit out at Bush, I mean, at Trump, but.
That's not going to do it because your opponent in the primary is President Biden.
And I know that you know that.
And so you also probably reached that conclusion.
And judging by some of the things he's been saying, that's absolutely the case.
I had something.
Oh, there it is.
This is what we have now.
Bobby Kennedy is registering in even in these polls, the early polls, and they're already suppressing his numbers, but he's already up there.
In the 20 to 30 percent range, which is amazing considering he came out of nowhere like a rocket.
Now, he's also not shying away from the tricky issues that are out there, like the assassination of his father and uncle.
Now, Robert Kennedy blames CIA for JFK assassination, fueling controversial claims.
This is somebody who can bring full transparency to that government, including the UFO file.
And he's expressing more and more the desire to do this.
Now, this is something he put out, which was a good shot at Stepford Biden.
And it's a cartoon.
It's the foreign violence, domestic violence, Uzi, and showing Biden completely comfortable with war and destroying the American dream with his neocon war in Ukraine.
That's a healthy, you have to go after and take down Biden because both sides are coming in and squeezing against the middle.
The Trump side is coming in strong as they're trying to send him to prison.
And you have this disgrace of Hunter Biden out there.
Toasting and being at a dinner event with Merrick Garland, whose DOJ just let him off with a slap on the wrist and didn't go into any of the bribery or anything like that.
And that is collusion on a deep, deep level.
And Merrick Garland, the attorney general, I mean, it's such a disgrace for him to go party with Hunter Biden after his DOJ gave him such a light non, it's not even a sentence, it's nothing.
But he'll go after Trump because no one's above the law except the president's son, apparently.
So, you know, you're in a kind of a sick situation in the United States right now.
And I think what we're looking at, you know, like the Merrick Garland thing is like, you know, you're going to say, well, if you were a normal, like, justice warrior, if you're actually upholding the law, would you go party at Biden's event with him?
And, you know, I'm sure his answer would be something like, well, the champagne wasn't even chilled and I didn't enjoy the caviar.
So it wasn't that great.
RFK Jr. Demands Disclosure00:08:16
More on RFK Jr.
My uncle, John F. Kennedy, was assassinated 60 years ago, yet many of the documents related to his murder have never been declassified.
Why are they still being hidden?
It's time for the American people to know the truth.
That's Robert Kennedy Jr. today.
So he's not holding back, and he won't hold back on the UFO file.
This guy is leading the charge.
He's looking like the one to watch.
And I think it's absolutely crucial that everyone within listening distance.
You know, get Bobby Kennedy in as the candidate on the Democrat side and get Trump in as the candidate on the Republican side, and we might be able to move this situation somewhere.
Kennedy actually got some praise from Trump, interestingly enough.
And Trump mistakenly called him JFK Jr.
You can just imagine the waves that set off with all the cute people who were constantly the victim of the CIA putting out this JFK Jr. thing.
But very interesting indeed.
And of course, you know, Trump knew both.
You know, he knew JFK Jr. and he knows Bobby.
He actually got Bobby into the White House to settle out a vaccine program.
And unfortunately, that whole thing with Fauci and all that, you know, they got outfoxed by Bill Gates and all the rest.
But okay, so let's see what else we have here.
Now, Yeah, I wanted to point out a couple of things that are going on.
One of them is about Edward Dowd.
Let's do this really quickly.
So, Edward Dowd, you know, he's been making the rounds.
He's an economic expert.
He's one of these guys who got out of the swamp and he started giving us information about what their plans are.
But he went on the record recently and said, you know, what's going on is they're planning an alien threat.
That's what's going to happen.
So, Dowd now thinks that they're going to use the alien UFO threat in order to get out of this situation.
Where the economy is going to collapse and all this type of thing.
That's pretty heavy duty.
And it's interesting because it aligns exactly with the things that we say on this program.
But he's coming in from a totally different area.
In the meantime, you have all the UFO people who should be aware of this stuff.
And they're all saying, oh, no, you know, that's paranoid.
We're getting disclosure from the CIA.
You know, it's all coming true, baby.
Well, this is a big problem, but it shows, I think, the thing with Dowd and him coming forward and understanding that the UFO threat is what the reset is all about.
This is crucial, and this puts us in the right headspace.
So, it's that kind of crossover that is going to help us to understand the stakes that are going on around the UFO file for the election, for the emergency powers piece.
So, the fact of rejecting the false CIA UFO disclosure and going for the real thing is going to be absolutely crucial, and not accepting any false UFO threat activity on their part.
Now, Someone who is in the Bobby Kennedy camp is very wise to the UFO issue.
His name is Charles Eisenstein.
And here's a couple of interesting comments that he made, which I think are very revealing and let us know that Bobby Kennedy and his campaign are going to, on the knowledge side, certainly benefit from having this guy around.
Quote A couple of days ago, I discovered that I Appear several times in Stephen Greer's new film, The Lost Century.
I say discovered because I'd quite forgotten that I'd done that interview.
The timing is good, though, because I'm dead set on bringing the UFO topic into the Kennedy campaign that I've become involved in.
Just kidding.
It isn't a political issue, is it?
And he goes on.
And he says people aren't really interested.
You know, UFOs aren't in the top 10, whatever.
He said Kennedy did tweet an article about UFOs, about a whistleblower.
And Then he went on about Grush here because, you know, this guy hearing about Grush actually believed the story.
That part's unfortunate.
However, the good part is he's saying, okay, having suitably established my credibility, I'm now free to explore why it is that UFOs are not a political issue.
RFK Jr.'s tweet, which I would call ill advised were it not for the fact that I advised it, was met with ridicule, conspiracy theory.
Our response was, if I'm a conspiracy theorist, then so is Newsweek.
And he goes on through this whole thing.
Now, Then he says, that is how it is possible that UFOs seem like such a fringe belief when a large minority, perhaps even a majority, yes, believe that they are of extraterrestrial origin.
This is not the only arena where the socially and politically safest thing to do is to ridicule beliefs that one holds oneself.
So that's Charles Eisenstein.
This is a guy who's very deep around the environment and all the rest.
The RFK campaign, and he's featured in Stephen Greer's documentary.
So, six degrees of separation, the UFO file deep there on RFK on his mind.
And interesting also when we think about this, because RFK pointed out that he wanted to get to the bottom of it and would get to the bottom of it and thinks that the reason for the secrecy is weapons related around the UFO file.
Those things he's put on the record.
That's traumatic, in my opinion.
So, if we can get Kennedy really.
The right information on this, then he'll do incredibly well.
I wanted to point out, too, that there's some weird people inserting themselves.
Every week I have a new one into the UFO file on the congressional side.
This time it's Senator Hawley.
And Josh Hawley, who kicks around at times, and they talk about him going into presidential politics at some point.
Interesting, in his own yearbook, he wrote, President Hawley 2024.
I found that interesting.
But anyway, he's been all over the place recently being like, we need to get UFO disclosure from that government, damn it.
This is interesting to me because I keep wondering where, where do these senators and congresspeople keep getting their UFO talking points from?
What are people saying to them in the background that makes it okay for them to go out and demand this?
Quote, US has downplayed the number of UFO sightings.
And so Hawley is out there playing Mr. UFO.
What is going on with that?
And we have everyone jumping the UFO bandwagon.
And now, what's interesting to me is The Hill, which used to just put out these kind of Obama articles, you know, pro UFO articles that would have all these former Obama intelligence officials talking about the threat and all the rest.
Now they have a show where they're putting it out and they're constantly like whipping it up, you know.
So you're going to get these phony versions of the coverage around the UFOs.
And when I've watched these programs, these people don't know anything about the subject, they have no clue.
And so, you know, they're putting this stuff out there and they're like, hey, whistleblower Grush is giving us UFO disclosure.
So, my horror and the ultimate kind of cherry on top of all this, and I told Miss Olivia about this, is that, you know, Sank from the Young Turks suddenly, you know, the guy who wants to legalize bestiality and stuff.
And it's just a horrible host and that whole kind of crazy, cringeworthy.
The Tall Whites Mystery00:07:50
Show that they do.
This guy now is like, we need UFO disclosure.
So you're going to find a lot of sort of false, superficial reporting around it.
All I can tell you is go for the deep stuff and go for things that are potent when it comes to this arena, because a lot of the things that we're seeing are absolutely absurd surface treatments of the topic with no depth that don't go anywhere.
And it's very important, I think, especially at this point in time, for us to get the real.
Uh, kind of hardcore truth around this, the way that Frank Scully and Silas Newton were going for in that period before they were shot down by a sleazy journalist in the FBI.
Now, uh, final thing on this, I want to point out, and then we'll go right to your questions is the tall whites thing I mentioned earlier.
One, this is supposedly a picture, there, these are pictures related to the uh crash at Aztec.
16 of these beings.
Who appeared mostly human.
There's some resemblance to the grays in this, but not really, actually, when you think about it.
And there might have been some like gray inspiration to the artwork around that.
But generally, what we're talking about was 16 dead occupants of the Aztec crash.
And when the crash hits, all the people that are involved in extracting it on the military side, those who remembered it, they said it took three weeks to pull the craft off of the mesa and they had to separate the craft into three different pieces to take it off.
Now, what's interesting is if you go to that area of Aztec now, you can still find.
Remnants of the ramp that the military built to pull this thing off.
And there's also a mysterious story about them putting it in the back of this flatbed truck and then going off to, you know, these army guys going off to some bar and leaving it there.
And some, you know, people remembering seeing this large craft just hanging out or one third of the craft.
Inside, when they first discovered it, one of the early sketches.
They basically looked in and saw a bunch of dead occupants, but the craft was intact.
So it's unusual in that sense, the entire case.
Now, switch gears for a moment, keep Aztec in mind, and go to the Charles Hall story.
Charles Hall's story is that we were working hand in glove with an advanced group technologically that was living at our bases there in Nevada, and that that group was the tall whites.
And that they had a kind of a one of the reasons I think Hall's account is so interesting is that they had a kind of contempt for humanity and that they were trading, you know, secrets around technology and things for their own purposes.
And that this group wouldn't identify actually where they were from.
And so they threw him in, they threw Charles Hall in to work with these aliens, and he found them kind of hostile at times.
And he also knew that there was a history of them blowing away people that they were working with on this base.
Now, so the Tall Whites hang out there is a very interesting addition in the middle of it because, you know, of course, you have the Nordics who are all about spirituality and peace, the Pleiadian aspect, and you have the Greys who are very scientific, but in the middle of it are these guys.
And, you know, there's more than enough interesting intel that suggests to me that they could have been a group.
That's been here operating for a long time and don't necessarily come from another place.
But this is one of those pieces where I think we're getting some of the truth around the idea of the tall whites, but we're not getting, you know, if we lock ourselves into space for every one of these cases, then we might be, you know, cheating because we might be falling into a pattern of it.
You know, what's to say that if there is a group like that who are operating there around Nevada and all the rest, if they weren't just an advanced form of humanity, that because they look very much like humanity, if you look closely at the tall whites, they just are tall with larger eyes and very fragile.
This is the other thing that's interesting.
So, with that, Miss Olivia, I have more that I'm going to sprinkle in about the UFO crash at Aztec as we go, but let's take a few questions now so we get into the mode and Europe.
Miss Olivia.
Okay.
First thing, Jake Vandervest wants to know: tall whites equal Atlanteans?
Any relationship there?
Look, there's a group in the Casey work which he called automatons, which the Atlanteans had created.
And if you really go into the history of the term automaton, and if you think about the Casey readings being done in the 20s and 30s, he's really talking about robots.
But they're mixed, they mixed them with human and in some cases animal DNA.
And this was the advanced leftover.
Of the Atlantean scientists.
This is the Casey story, it comes directly out of it and explains so many unusual strains around humanity.
So, when we think of it that way, certainly there's a possibility that this is an ancient culture and they are advanced.
You know, there's the whole piece around Mount Shasta.
Well, haven't we heard those stories?
You know, in many of these things, in many of these cases, we're finding there's some.
Thread of truth in many of those legends that come together.
So, when you take the Cosmos Club founding and you take the fact that Powell, who founded it, shows up at Cape Girardeau and Aztec, and those become big crash retrieval centers and UFO sighting centers, et cetera, then you wonder well, didn't he discover this stuff when he was setting up the Cosmos Club and doing all his expeditions?
And as I said, using very, very Interesting Egyptian terms for everything that he found, you know, Isis Palace.
You know, it's unusual.
And along with the stories, of course, of extensive, unusual Egyptian ruins in the Grand Canyon.
Those stories, in fact, there's a lot of support in the background of those stories.
So it goes a lot deeper than just random newspaper articles.
And I could give you some really heavy.
Stuff here about matching up the names that the Native American tribes used for things that the Egyptians used, which suggests that at some point there's a connecting culture.
Well, what did Casey say?
He said the full blooded Atlanteans were the Iroquois nation.
I mean, that's pretty clear.
So, from the person who gave us the Atlantean story, what does that tell us about the Native American piece?
They were, the Atlanteans were the red.
Occult Roots of the UFO File00:08:18
Race.
And, you know, I have an episode coming up about the sixth root race.
The altering of DNA, altering of gender, interfering with nature, you know, the advent of the eighth sphere through transhumanism, this whole thing is to prevent this sixth root race from rising.
So that's where you get all of the challenges around traditional concepts and things.
Relating to gender and race and all the rest of it.
So, that, you know, there's an occult reasoning going on in the background.
That's why it's hard to figure out, you know, like, hey, you know, you're creating genders.
You created 68 genders in the last six months.
Well, what's going on there?
Schwab, what's happening?
Yes.
Okay.
So, DG wants to know was Hitler worshiping the tall whites, AKA the Aryan race?
Well, let's go back to the principalities that Casey's talking about, the unseen forces, and all the rest of it.
So there's an interface there, and there were groups that were set up.
You know, people have tried to, you know, really downplay the occult aspect of the whole Nazi trip, but.
It's there.
It's, you know, there's so much depth to their knowledge around occult secrets and also the intermingling of secret societies with the Nazi group, not to mention Hitler's own fascination with Atlantis and, you know, their fascination with theosophy and all the rest of it.
So you're getting deep, deep esoteric signals around the Nazi party.
So, um, The idea that they were interfacing with what they thought were ETs, or that they had discovered ancient technology or modern technology, crashed UFO technology, it lends itself to that possibility.
I've told this story before of encountering this group that was very Casey ish called the Transcenders.
And one of the flashes that this guy would get very fascinating visions.
And one of the flashes he got when I was asking him these questions was a group of Nazi soldiers carrying a craft off on their shoulders all the way through this forest in Germany.
But it was early, it was like 1934.
So we know that we have kind of a setup around when UFOs went crazy and we had the flying saucer craze in 47, and the whole national security apparatus to face off against that.
But the discovery around the UFO file goes back earlier in the 20th century, actually.
And we know it goes, you know, there's the whole thing about the ancient piece, but just keeping it in a general modern sense, it is there, it exists, and it shows up in the work, even of people like Lovecraft.
And so, you know, we, Jack London stuff, you know, we really have to see that this is what's happening and that we have a kind of a.
A window there just because of the kind of organic way that this developed to lock us into 47 and on.
And it's okay as a marker, I think, but you have to acknowledge the stuff goes much further back.
And therefore, the German Nazi expression of this.
Don't forget the Mormon thing has a big space component to it as well.
So we have to start to wonder how these things.
Work themselves out.
And when you get to the Nordics, they present themselves as looking, you know, I mean, they have a particular identification and they're kind of like, you know, the Nordic aliens tend to have the most spiritual message, right?
And then you get around the Mormons and there's that whole ideal, which is very much like the Nordic thing.
So I think that there's a crisscross there.
I think there's, You know, interference and communication from other things.
Yes.
Robert Schultz, what did Eisenhower know and when did he know it about the Aztec crash?
And what about that deal that he made with the aliens?
Look, Eisenhower was incredibly in the know.
There's a security guard for Eisenhower who witnessed a conversation with Churchill and Eisenhower about the whole UFO thing, but that was going back to the 1940s before he was president or anything of that nature.
If you go into that period with Truman, Forrestal, and then Forrestal running.
MJ 12, and then them having to get rid of him and him being close friends with JFK.
You know, I mean, this thing has historical turns which are left out of the historical record.
There's no question about it.
And the reason I've been able to bring some of them forward, and, you know, people have done a great job of bringing things forward, is because I've wanted to, you know, I've wanted to look and see if this stuff was there.
And if you do look to see if it's there, you'll find it.
The piece around.
Forrestal and Kennedy work very interestingly because they're both Catholic, you know.
And remember, JFK is the first Catholic president, but they have a very close friendship.
And it is, in fact, Forrestal who takes JFK under his wing and brings him to Berlin after the war when JFK thinks, I'm going to be a journalist, you know.
And he's not, it hasn't kicked into his brain that his father is obsessed with him becoming president yet.
And He writes this incredible thing about witnessing the ruins of Berlin and how he also writes about thinking that Hitler's not dead and that the Russians know it and the people here know it.
So he's sort of musing in this.
But that connection of him with Forrestal and then the fact that there's a group, this planetary watchers group, who heard about the UFO crash and they go to Congressman Kennedy in 1947 with that.
You know, he already has that background on the UFO file.
By the time he gets in and then he starts saying, we need to share this with the Russians, he becomes a huge enemy of the deep state for that alone, never mind the incredible push pull between peace and war and the other things, the freedom that Kennedy is trying to put forward there.
You know, I mean, the CIA, their whole thing was they're chronic liars.
So, you know, Kennedy coming in and saying, Oh, we can give this information to the world.
I mean, they're thinking this guy is, you know, he's our top official and we have to find a way to remove him.
And when we unravel those 60, you know, it's the 60th anniversary in November, you know, people have lived and died with the false history about Oswald and, you know, communism and the phony gun and all that stuff.
I mean, it's amazing to have people live under false lies, but, you know, who writes the history books?
Deception and the Deep State00:16:02
The victims.
So, we have to look at it that way.
We have to think of it that there was a war in the 60s between the intelligence agencies and the overt government.
So, the covert government fought the overt government and won.
And so, you removed the major leaders that were going to move the culture in a good direction and you gave them, you know, Johnson and Nixon and people like that.
And even those people, even though they were depraved to a certain level, they still saw dealing with the intelligence people was, you know, An incredibly low move for the culture.
And even they got into battles with them to the point where they removed Nixon and others.
So, you know, the thing that has taken over and that is kind of running things, and, you know, whether you want to refer to it as the deep state or X Protect, when you get around the UFO piece, it's interesting because they've held off on using it because they wanted to have mastery around what they had.
And now I think what they want to do is insert it into the geopolitical process.
Yes.
Wendy Eater, how does John Q. Public respond to a presidential candidate talking about UFOs help or hinder a campaign?
Well, if you are a candidate and you want to tell people what's going on, you need to address the UFO file.
And because, strangely enough, you'll get an opportunity now because on the deep state side, they've decided they're going to push their own false version of disclosure.
So you have the ability.
To use the very openness that they're claiming to have to talk about the issue and also to bring forward the intelligence about it.
Because the first question you want to ask, the way they talk about the UFO thing is hilarious in Congress because they're like, we don't know what's going on there, but we sure would like to know what this is all about.
And they've been studying it for 80 years and they know a lot about the subject.
They're not newbies haunted at all.
So there's a lot of deception going on there.
What they need to do is.
Play along and create this.
Hey, we've just discovered this UFO threat, but don't worry, we'll protect you just like we protected you from COVID.
So, as I'm fond of saying, if you thought the COVID op was something, just wait until they launched the UFO threat operation.
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Michael Snow, what about Paul Hellyer's testimony at the National Press Club?
His take on how we cannot prosecute or publicize the evil, corrupt few that have withheld knowledge and tech, that we must give them an out.
Could this be a step in that direction with the Grush disclosure?
Any thoughts?
I don't, you know, it's funny that whole thing about it because they're not, they don't even realize that they need an out, right?
That's the problem with the name where we find ourselves.
And, you know, so we're not at a level where when they talked about that, you know, oh, give amnesty for the people who fed us all the wrong information about COVID and stuff.
And it's funny because.
There have been trial balloons floated out about that.
And they realize at a certain point, just the accumulation of knowledge is eventually going to get people.
And, you know, they're going to have it ready at the ready.
They say, well, you know, we didn't know what was going on.
We were trying to save everyone and we may have made a few mistakes.
You hear this stuff.
But in fact, they made everyone go along with what they were doing.
So, you know, that answers itself.
And I think when it gets to the UFO file, you know, the secrecy that they've kept in relation to this, if you don't expose the X Protect aspect, Of how the government's dealt with it, then you're not offering any kind of real truth.
The other thing is, you know, the government isn't the real organ of disclosure for the UFO file, believe it or not.
And having that knowledge of the UFO file on a citizen independent level, unfiltered, as a matter of fact, you might know more about the UFO file if you don't take it from the government.
If they offer you this kind of half baked version of the whole thing that's just meant to create, you know, a boondoggle for them as a defense thing against a UFO threat, that's nothing, you know.
And so what you want is the real thing.
You want that real breakthrough information.
And in my opinion, you get it through working on the UFO file aspect and forgetting about the CIA UFO circus that's run with the media.
That's a totally different thing.
And as a matter of fact, I think that what people are going to get there.
You know, you hear so many people saying, Well, you know, it's good because UFOs are being talked about.
Well, if they're being lied about, it isn't so good because it's just another enemy.
And as we know, guys like Fletcher Proudy, who had gone through everything from the Kennedy administration, Vietnam, you know, Iraq war, and everything else, they knew, you know, he said at the end of his life that they're priming UFOs to be the threat next.
You know, let's heed some of that wisdom and avoid it by exposing it.
That's the way to do it.
Not to, you know, have the Corbell circus or, you know, the Grush show and tell, you know, those aren't real stories.
And when you think about the window of time of the Elizondo thing, what a waste of space.
Five years, right?
It's total waste.
Now it comes out today that that's even a phony letter of resignation.
So, you know, expect, The government to feed out false information relating to UFOs and then really drill down on the genuine UFO file.
It is a human story.
It's humans being abducted, interacting with these things, tracking them, photographing them.
And also understand that it might seem like, oh, they've kept all the secrets.
How would anyone get to it?
Look, it's understood in those circles that there's a collective mind in the subconscious of humanity.
So, in some sense, you know, if some secret military ex protect officer has seen a dead alien somewhere, we've all seen it, you know.
And so it's about moving that level of transparency forward and not necessarily even moving it forward with the government.
They may be the last ones to admit the actual truth on the thing, it holds too much power and advantage for them.
It's a gigantic, you know, when you think about the secret aspects of how the government operates.
Whether it's underground bases, advanced technology, advanced powers, their influence on the culture, it's, you know, they're living.
I mean, it's a total dream world.
We couldn't even imagine the things that they're able to do.
So, on their level, you know, basically they've been running this show for a long time and they're at a crucial point where they feel, ah, too many of them are aware of us now.
We need the ultimate thing.
We need the biometric ID.
We have to really control and create this digital slave system.
They're out of any traditional answers.
They can't even debate.
There are all these Washington Post, New York Times, they're running things saying there shouldn't be presidential debates because we shouldn't have to have debates anymore because they can't make any reason out of their crazy.
I'm creating a new gender every day.
You've gone to a level of insanity that you can't defend.
You can say, Oh, we can't talk to them.
They don't trust science.
And you make up science depending on who pays you.
So we had a great example of that.
And it was the Hotez Rogan RFK thing.
And of course, Hotez is one of the biggest liars out there.
And Rogan basically offered him into a debate with RFK Jr.
What's to lose?
And he said, I'll give you all this money.
And all these people pitched in all this money to his favorite charity.
And all these articles came out.
So, how dangerous it would be to allow that anti vaxxer to debate anyone, you know?
So, we can see where they're coming from.
There's no dialogue.
It's just they want to rule by dictum, you know, by dictate.
And the thing I think the danger in all this is after that, when it got to a point where people were really paying attention on that whole thing about the debate, they came out with this phony thing, and it was, let's.
Zuckerberg challenges Elon to a cage match, you know, and Elon went along with it.
And he's like, I'll wear the proper dress, whatever, you know.
And so he gave up on the real thing.
And what they did is they created a circus out of something that came up organically that was pressed that said, Look, you know, if RFK Jr. is dishing out so much misinformation, here's your chance, Jotez, you know.
But they want to hide behind Rachel Maddow, you know, they want to hide behind, um, The Clintons and stuff.
They just want to put out this thing, and anyone who challenges them is bad.
They're anti science.
Oh my God, Jotez was followed to his lame house.
I mean, come on.
So if you ask a question, you're terrifying, right?
So I guess we must really terrify them because we're asking questions all the time.
The ideas room must be their idea.
Of a total nightmare.
And I wouldn't have it any other way.
Miss Olivia.
Okay.
Fuberfighter.
Does false disclosure have a plan B in case the real guys crash the party?
See, that's the thing.
And this is the brilliance of Dr. Joseph Farrell because this piece comes up as what if you are staging the ultimate false flag UFO threat takeover blue beam thing and the real thing shows up?
That's a contingency plan that they don't have any.
Plan for.
And it's kind of a problem because they know damn well that the real thing exists.
So there's something here from somewhere else, you know.
And so, for me, you know, that's one of those key questions.
Which, if we bring that one out there, you're really talking the real thing.
And for me, also, when you get to the staging of the UFO threat thing, so many people who are smart still get stuck on the idea how would they do a UFO threat thing?
Oh, that can't happen.
A lot of UFO researchers I've talked to who are, you know, They're aware of things and stuff, but they can't get this one through their head.
And this bothers me because the launching of the UFO threat thing is something they've been doing for years.
And if you look into it, they've always had it hanging out there.
If you go into the work of people I suggest on this program, like Gigi Young, Joseph Farrell, and others, the UFO threat thing is embedded in the way that they're rolling things out.
And they have a number of plans for the UFO things.
They also have a false human origin story.
So, you know, if you go deep with it, anyone who understands intelligence or counterintelligence understands the UFO threat.
It's just one of those cards that they have.
But this card, you know, and this is something I got into with Alex Jones, and Alex got it right away.
And he actually made a fun food metaphor out of it.
I forget what it was, but it was something like, okay, they've had the UFO.
Threat thing, and they kept it in the freezer.
Now they've got it out, they've warmed it up, and it's going to be like a hot Pop Tart pretty soon.
Like they're ready to go.
And he's absolutely right, he got it.
You know, he summed it up in a minute.
And um, people who understand and watch how the deep state operates understand very clearly how uh the UFO threat happens, and it is only um, the kind of lofty perch UFO researcher or um, you know, the kind of like weird podcasty.
Thing that we've been seeing that doesn't get it, you know, that they don't understand.
They think that they're going to get, and I understand it in some sense, which is you don't know a subject.
So you go and you say, well, who's a credentialed person I can talk to about this?
I get the inclination, but the problem is the credential around for the UFO thing, you go to intelligence people, but intelligence people are embedded in the scene around the UFO thing to lie to the public.
And they've been lying very successfully.
And we've rolled, you know, we just rolled out the thing about Elizondo lying about his resignation letter, right?
TTSA was a lie.
But who set up TTSA?
Well, it was Jim Semivan.
And he was a 25 year veteran of the CIA.
And he was also working for the special service.
That's the top, that's the cream of the 1% crop.
He's the one who set up TTSA.
And what happened with TTSA?
They went $50 million into debt in the first year.
So, somebody was ready to put a tremendous amount of support behind capturing this whole thing.
And, you know, you have to ask yourself does it bother you that it's the CIA and Intel people who are just running the UFO debate completely in the public, in Congress, and everywhere else?
I mean, that's a really big problem because those people are trained to lie.
So, the danger is hard and it exists around this.
And the problem is it does not compute very often.
In the mind of the researchers, they don't think that the CIA is going to lie to them.
Reorienting Creation Stories00:03:05
And that's a big, big problem.
And I'm here to give them the counterpoint.
Go ahead.
Okay, so for Uberfighter again, you know, the problem that materialists will have with the alien origins is that it blows up Darwin and ushers intelligent design right in on a velvet carpet.
I was thinking about this.
Grush kept using the term ontological, like ontological crisis.
And, you know, is this going to, if we are designed by another humanoid species, if we are a product, if we ourselves are hybrids, then we are then allowed to.
Screw with our genetics.
We can practice eugenics.
We can actually be transhumanists.
It gives us permission to take the next leap of evolution, which they want to take.
Yeah.
This is interesting because there's a few things in there, because what's happening is they want to reorient the creation story.
And part of that.
Process is to say that, oh, you know, our DNA comes from these Martian gods.
And, you know, so there's a whole move inside to do that.
And so I think what you said, just said, runs deep into all this.
And also the things that they drop when they're talking about it, the way that they want to present it.
What's funny is, you know, their biggest problem, the kind of World Economic Forum types, is basically Christians.
And this is an interesting thing because, as a group, Christians have been targeted incredibly and are heavily targeted in the middle of all this because they hold such a powerful spiritual belief.
And I mean, we've seen them have problems with other religious groups, but the Christians, especially in America, are targeted heavy.
And there's a good reason for that, which is if you aspire to a higher God and all the rest of it, they can't be God.
So, this gets into a deep question.
Around things.
And, you know, when it comes to origin stories and the truth about humanity and spiritual truth and things like that, think of somebody like Dr. Fauci dishing that out.
You know, that's like having Mengele give you a sermon on how to be a good human.
So, you know, we have to understand the nature of the people that we're dealing with and that their goal is to.
Basically, harvest humanity.
So, you know, and it's very obvious from what they're doing.
I mean, think about the whole thing about putting people in a digital concentration camp.
You know, there's no progress in society, they just want control.
Russia's Harvest Humanity Plan00:06:28
So that's a totally different thing.
You know, there's a point in society, say, in the 1960s with the space program and things like that, and with figures like Kennedy, who the idea is we're going to move as a world together to this new kind of Humanity and freedom, and the new frontier of space.
And, you know, what does that turn into?
It turns into the Vietnam War.
And, you know, there are opportunities even after the fact of all the things that they do.
I think the 90s were another opportunity.
And instead, you got the terror decade, you know.
And so the group that's in charge is operating on a backwards spiritual level.
So that's.
What you're getting.
So when you get, it's very weird to have people like Grush talk about, you know, like, well, we're going to have to change our whole idea of what our origin is.
You know, this guy won't even give you a straight answer on who sent him out here to do this, you know.
And also, the other thing about Grush I noticed was they came out with a prepackaged thing about like non human intelligence, right?
The NHI and all that.
And so it was all this kind of like NHI this, NHI that.
And it was one of those tags like UAP that was just being smoothed in there.
And Instead of being able to say, you know, they're like, is there a way around saying aliens so we can do it this way, you know?
So that type of cooking things up and data mining is the type of intelligence operations extremely dangerous.
And I think people like Grush are at the center of an op and he's playing, you know, we've seen a lot of different interpretations and people interpreting his body movements and things, including some former intelligence officials.
And it's very interesting the degree to which the amount of people who agree that he's lying, I think, is fascinating.
And I have a pretty good radar for people, the subtext of the things that they're saying.
And I can tell you that Grosh is lying his face off in terms of what he claims his intentions are.
Yes.
Hugh Mantu.
Does DJ think there could be.
Hold on.
Does DJ think there could be a reason UAP task force and hearings are ignoring cases prior to 2004 is that they might relate to foreign nations developing their own X tech to operational state?
Oh, well, think about it.
Look, Russia is easily equal, if not superior, to us when it comes to the UFO file.
I think we probably hold an edge, but they're damn close.
And they know all the things relating to the UFO file that we know.
The trick is, you know, nobody has wanted to be in a position of saying it first officially as a government.
We're the ones with it because it creates you create the target on yourself there by admitting that you have it.
And then all the questions open up what have you done to keep this a secret, like assassinating presidents and things of this nature?
X Protect, you know, comes out of the closet and it's pretty bad, pretty bad record.
You know, so you have to understand when they get into situations with Russia.
They're trying to shut Russia up the way that they shut up Bobby Kennedy in the campaign.
This is the weird thing about it, which is why I don't trust a lot of the propaganda about the Russia Ukraine war.
It looks more and more like we're going psycho.
And there's no peace process.
And whenever there's talk of peace, Blinken, who's one of the worst Secretary of State in history, keeps shooting it down.
Those people don't want a competitor on the UFO file front, on the exotic technology front.
And, you know, so we have traditional geopolitics in play with, you know, America, Germany, Russia, and China.
But there's also this other piece, if we could understand and bring in the UFO file, this is why it's crucial for the 2024 election.
If we bring that piece in, then we understand the geopolitical center of this completely differently and how so much of this is a battle over the advanced technology.
Look at Russia and some of the things that they've had to say.
It's very interesting.
One of the things that they had to say was we shot down.
A UFO which came over our territory.
They started using the term UFO, and it, you know, the incident probably didn't even happen, but they said it because they were like, you know, if you want to, if you want to put this on, if you want to put the world on crazy town, if you want to put this on this bizarro level, then we will open up the UFO piece and you will, you know, we'll talk all about the UFO technology that you guys are using.
So, um, You know, Russia has a lot.
It's been a nation that, as a superpower, lost a lot of its luster after it broke up as the Soviet Union and just was Russia.
However, you know, it regained a lot of its power and a lot of its bearing in the world situation.
And they've had that history.
You know, the Casey readings said one day, hey, Russia's going to be the hope of the world.
Well, what about that?
So, you know, you can't.
You can't look at the things that Putin did going into Ukraine.
I don't think, you know, you have to look at that geopolitically on a number of different levels.
You know, you can't support that kind of attack on a country.
But at the same time, you have the United States enticing them to do it because it wants the conflict.
That's a sick situation put on by the neocons inside Stepford Biden's administration.
And that's why the forces behind.
The Kennedy candidacy and the forces behind the Trump candidacy have to overcome all the obstacles and smash the Biden regime because the Biden regime is going to lead us all over a cliff.
Remote Viewing and British Royals00:04:24
There must be some acknowledgement of that deep, deep in the system.
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Okay, Don Dupes.
DJ, how do you get invited to the Cosmos Club?
And Nenis says, Was it the Cosmos Club which invited Catherine Austin Fitz to that lunch to meet an alien?
Well, on the first question, you have to ask John Warner because they invited him.
Well, here's what's interesting, which is I think ordinarily it costs something like a quarter of a million dollars to join.
This is the crazy part.
So they know who they're getting in there.
The Cosmos Club has operated as a kind of UFO Bilderberg over time.
And it's interesting because they just had Avi Loeb there as a speaker from over here at the Astrophysics Lab at Harvard.
So, and you see Loeb working the Amua Mua AI aspect of the UFO thing, claiming, oh, you know, Amua Mua was a probe sent in by another galaxy.
And so their AI has, you know, our AI is going to meet up with them and they're going to give us all these instructions about how to improve society.
And all that stuff would sound great, except again, you know, like Avi Loeb comes out of Talpiot, which is like basically the CIA in Israel.
And he put all, you know, he appointed on the Galileo project all of a bunch of CIA people, including Elizondo.
So it's absurd to pretend that you're anything but an intel front and doing this.
I think we need to eschew that whole thing.
And the famous story of Fitz and Aliens is funny because they wanted her to join a think tank about how would the, this is the late 90s, and, uh, You know, how would society in general respond if there were knowledge of ET here?
And she said, Well, I don't know if I want to do that.
And they said, Well, do you want to meet some aliens?
So, you know, it is interesting.
And we have had those references that there are people in the halls of government who look exactly like humans who are aliens and operating in our government.
So, you know, take that as you will.
But I will tell you this that the.
There have been interesting occasions when you get into it.
And those occasions go all the way.
There are stories inside of the British royal house of this stuff happening and then being approached by human looking ETs.
And then we have the whole thing about the Pleiadians as ETs trying to create a peaceful outcome so we don't use nukes and things of this nature.
So you go to Ingo Swan's stories.
Uh, you know, he was very convinced, and he said he had encountered groups here who were.
He said that the way you could tell an alien was that they were telepathic.
Well, some humans are too, uh, but Spawn's stories are always interesting on that level.
One of the weirdest things about his penetration book was that he was being used by these different intelligence outfits for remote viewing, including SRI and TARG and all those people, but at a certain point.
This group asked him to do it, and it was through a traditional channel, but then he didn't recognize any of the people involved.
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And the people who came to pick him up were twins.
And then they had him remote viewing the moon, and he saw all these ruins on the moon in his remote viewing session.
So, you know, he started to wonder wait a minute, you know, I'm used to working with intelligence and stuff.
All right, but what's going on here?
Who are these people?
And who are the ones who had me remote viewing the moon?
Because later on, as it turns out, They weren't his traditional people he was doing remote viewing for.
So, who were they?
And the twins thing might be a giveaway about that.
But boy, is that a fascinating story.
Yes.
Last question.
Well, I did want to bring this up.
Michael Mataika says, What exactly is this submersible psyop?
Timing, consequences for further exploration?
Do you want to address this at all?
Well, I had one thing I'll tell you about the, and it is a very sad story about the.
The group that went out there looking for the Titanic.
I guess it's another Titanic tragedy, if you think about it.
But there was one person on board there who is very interesting.
He, I'm trying to, it's Paul Henry Narjalet.
And he was part of the original, you know, let's find the Titanic.
And he's been doing a number of things.
And now he's presumed dead in that whole accident.
But what's interesting is he's here and he's talking about finding Atlantis.
I found this earlier article and he says the area where he thinks he's found Atlantis now looks just like Plato described it, sitting right outside the pillars of Hercules.
As soon as I saw it, I thought, oh my God, this is it.
In fact, I couldn't believe no one had drawn this conclusion before.
Team member Paul Henry Narjulet told BBC News Online Plato made the written reference to Atlantis.
360 BC, that there was an island situated in front of the pillars of Hercules.
The island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, he said.
So, this article comes from 2003.
So, we have another deep researcher around the Atlantis thing.
And in this case, he came to a very unhappy end.
But whenever you get around this Atlantis search, it seems to me you have very interesting.
Characters in a knowledge base crisscrossing that you don't get to see.
And that got brought up in the crisscross with Epstein and Maxwell being associated with Alexandra Cousteau.
And no one could figure that out until this court case came up, which showed that they were trying to get blackmail style material on Cousteau.
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And no one could figure that one.
They were like, what's going on there?
So we did The Colonel in the Hot Zone.
That's the episode on it, which digs deep into Colonel Sanders'.
Family and their deep, deep efforts using the Casey material to find Atlantis, and how the, you know, basically the grooming of Alexandra Cousteau was part of getting to Marvin Minsky.
And it just turned out that Marvin Minsky was best friends with Colonel Sanders' daughter.
Absolutely fascinating.
If you go deep into the hot zone around the UFO file piece, you know, you find these connections that are just incredibly off the charts.
What's interesting to me, I mean, the story about the Titanic thing is incredibly tragic.
But I think what's interesting is that they knew apparently on Sunday that it had exploded, but they waited, you know, to let that news out.
And to me, that was, you know, it kept that vibe of like, well, we hope for survivors.
And, you know, for me, it's kind of an insane thing that they were doing in the background there, not saying, well, We think that this thing is blown up.
They actually had detailed knowledge of it Sunday that the thing exploded on the beginning of its voyage.
So that was very unusual and very tragic.
But there's an Atlantis link to one of the major players that was on that submersible.
And with that, I wanted to just end this episode with this statement.
Niels Van Geffen, I'm pretty sure Mr. X changes every decade.
It's a position, they rotate the position to distract and at the same time discard the idea.
To those trying to figure out who Mr. X is, what do you think of it being a label or a role?
Oh, there's no question about it.
Well, X, for example, SpaceX and the X with Blue Origin when Bezos rolled it out, he was standing in front of a gigantic X and all that.
These are in X steganography, they're signaling each other that we have the X technology.
Elon is an incredible case of this.
And he takes great pains to shoot down the UFO question, if you'll notice.
And, you know, someone who goes out and is going to deal with space on the level of the space infrastructure and the things he's doing, you know, he's in lockstep with the American military on that.
There's no question about it.
You know, the Air Force, the Space Force controls all of those moves.
So, but the X Steganography, one of the reasons, in a way, Bringing this program forward the way that we have is if we understand the X technology being rolled out, you know, the breakaways breaking back in, as it were, they've developed the technology over, you know, eight or nine decades.
And now they have to find a method since they've cut themselves off from regular society, breaking back in and saying, oh, there's a reason why we developed all this technology and you didn't know anything about it.
And for me, that's where the whole thing about the UFO threat. Aspect comes in.
There's a couple of quick things I'll indicate here at the end about Silas Newton that are very interesting.
And Newton, for me, stands out dramatically because he's part of this team that Vannevar Bush cultivates for working on magnetism.
And he's deeply involved in the whole thing saying, I've seen, you know, these UFO crashes.
Now, he's part of, in my opinion, Vannevar Bush's UFO team.
What's interesting about him is when he meets up with our friend Scully, he starts talking to him and making references to William Gilbert, a 16th century figure, the father of magnetism.
Now, if you go into Gilbert, it's interesting.
And I think you're going to find that magnetism goes right to the core of what we're talking about in relation to the UFO file.
And if you're looking for sort of signals along the way, you know, and signatures, if you find, you know, him talking to Scully and mentioning this guy Gilbert, there's probably a reason for that and also a reason for Scully to include it.
So then Gilbert's, you know, if you go into Gilbert at all, there's this whole thing going on where he has these very innovative points of view about magnetism and electricity very early on.
And he actually gets the term.
Of electricity into the lexicon.
But it's interesting because in one of these major London fires, all of Gilbert's writings were destroyed in the Great Fire of London, but he did leave some instruments which enabled sailors to find out about their latitude without seeing the sun, moon, or stars.
Who actually got his information?
And you see how this is a much older program of innovation around these things.
And like the destruction of the Alexandria Library, It goes to the question Are there copies?
Were there copies kept in a secret mystery kind of location for all that stuff that humanity lost?
So we go again and again to this kind of mystery school aspect.
The Guy Hottle memo, which described the Aztec crash, is the FBI memo that really lays out there that there have been crashes and bodies involved.
So, in the memo, it says, Three so called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico.
They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter.
Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape, but were three feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of very fine texture.
Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to blackout suits of speed flyers and test pilots.
So it's on the record there.
You can imagine that little bit made it out, right?
Just like.
MJ 12 made it out over 70 years.
There are little hints of this thing, but inside they're much more advanced.
They've gone much further with all of this.
And I mentioned that, you know, this guy that was being referenced by Silas Newton got the term electricity into the popular lexicon.
Well, I went back just to check on this a little bit, and it's interesting.
Let's see if we can go with this.
The English word electricity was first used in 1646 by Sir Thomas Brown, derived from Gilbert's 1600 Neo Latin.
Electricus, meaning like amber.
The term had been in use since the 13th century, but Gilbert was the first to use it to mean like amber in its attractive properties.
He recognized that friction with these objects removed a so called effluvium, which would cause the attraction effect in returning to the object, though he did not realize that the substance, electrical charge, was universal to all materials.
I think, again, the amber thing in there.
And the clue of Newton talking about Gilbert and the fact that Newton was working in a magnetic group with Vannevar Bush's scientists, and that Vannevar Bush is one of these people called in and puts together a team to investigate the Aztec UFO, look just a half inch deep.
And I think Steinman came to something close to this conclusion, which is that it is the way that Newton got the information because he was close to Vannevar Bush's UFO retrieval team.
The name that I was given about that team, and it came in anagrams and a number of different ways, and it's over three years ago, was Black Rogue.
And so I put that on the record after our friend there, Grush, went on the record and said, That crash retrieval team, you know, I'd never heard that name before.
And he said this, but he didn't say what the name was, but the name that I got was Black Rogue.
So I wonder.
Really, what name they were going to put forward with that.
But anyway, as far as I'm concerned, there was a term used back there, which was for UFO recovery.
And that team that would go in to do that would have to have so called cosmic clearance, and they were called Black Rogue.
So, can you find threads of them?
Well, I guess they're still out there.
And we're going to follow up this episode for sure, going deeper still on all of this.
But I think with that, Miss Olivia, we're done for tonight.
Out you go.
I just wanted to say this.
CRCR1 said Hamish Harding lost on the Titan sub, had also visited the South Pole several times, once with Buzz Aldrin and flown into space with Blue Origin.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Well, you know, the whole thing about Blue and the Secret Space Program, I let it out about three weeks ago that this is a name that was being used.
That's where you get Blue Book, that's where you get Blue Beam.
And Blue is the cover name for the Secret Space Program.
I have a whole episode.
For that, that I'll get to, but that's going to be for July because there's a lot of things I wanted to put into it, including the International Geophysical Year.
Last thing on all this.
So, the same Guy Hoddle memo says, according to Mr. Redacted, the saucers were found in New Mexico due to the fact that the government has a very high powered radar set up in that area, and it is believed that radar interferes with the controlling mechanics.
Of the saucers.
No further evaluation was attempted.
The memo was addressed to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover.
Now, Hoover had been chasing around after this UFO piece and wanted to be included when the CIA found these things.
Guy Bannister was somebody working for Hoover who shows up later in the Kennedy assassination.
So the crisscross of the deep government working around the UFO file is something that's just undeniable.
So One of the reasons I've been pushing it as a big piece for the 2024 election is if they're going to roll out the false disclosure, there's no question that this is exactly what they're doing.
If you can counter it with the real thing, you might be able to explode the entire subject.
But it will be a tremendous advantage for any presidential candidate in 2024 to take the lead on the subject.
So, you know, the best defense is a good offense.
Go on the offense on the UFO file, is my advice to Bobby Kennedy and to President Trump.
Because both of them have a deep connection family wise with the UFO file.
And with that, Miss Olivia.
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Okay.
I just wanted to say there are fantastic questions that we didn't get to.
And I'm just going to make sure that DJ reads through the chat to see.
Yes, absolutely.
We'll probably do a follow up with this as well.
And, you know, there's the Bill Steinman book, UFO Crash at Aztec, a well kept secret.
And it is a wild ride for a book.
But Sarbarker is in here, Wilder Smith, and the lineage of the UFO file.
Uh, and it's just a remarkable sort of overview.
And you'll come face to face with all of these characters.
And uh, I just want to throw out the notion completely that they have to say hoax when they get around the Aztec case because it is that explosive.
And um, there are huge keys there to how UFO crash retrieval works and the fact that we have recovered craft and bodies in relation to it.
What did Sarbarker say?
He said, Well.
We studied the bodies.
Somebody made them.
Somebody made them, meaning he felt they were inorganic.
And he said they constructed them like insects.
Well, it's funny because I had a weird thing happen to me a number of years ago, walking down the street in Boston.
I met Charlie Fultz.
I've talked about this before, but one thing I want to say about Fultz, he was involved in the Allagash incident.
You know, the Allagash in Maine goes real deep, and you actually have to be helicoptered in there, and they do this kind of fishing runs.
But he and two twins who were both teachers at Mass Art got abducted there.
And so I happened to hear Fultz talking to his friend about how he had been on television about something.
And I asked him, What were you on television for?
And he was like, Are you sure you want that answer?
I was like, Yes, I do.
And he said, Well, I'll tell you the whole thing.
And he did.
He spent about an hour laying out.
Everything that happened to them.
And he actually re experienced some of it when he was talking to me.
And he told me different things happened.
Like, for example, that when he talks about it, he gets the same sensations about where they did tests on him, things like on his stomach and stuff.
And he showed me where he was getting incredible goose pumps and adrenaline around it.
But one of the things that one of the teachers that were with him on this escapade, and they all remembered being abducted eventually.
Was that he said basically, you know, this thing looks like an insect in spandex.
So, you know, that whole thing, when I think about Sarbarker and him letting out this truth, that he may have, you know, been killed over saying, well, actually, somebody had constructed these things like insects.
So, you know, we get some hints, some idea of what's going on there.
And some of these people have gone on the record and given us this idea.
So he's crisscrossed those two things.
And, you know, the other thing that Faltz told me about looking into the eyes of this, you couldn't really call it a gray.
I mean, it really does sort of the way, if you go and look at the Allagash incident, he said that when he looked into the eyes of the thing, his body would float up into the eyes.
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So whatever kind of intense magnetism around those creatures just.
You know, it was overpowering and incredibly hypnotic and telepathic.
So take that as it were.
Have you ever dreamt of any kind of the grays or had an insect alien dream where you related to their eyes at all?
Oh, dreams?
Well, I've dreamt of all kinds of aliens.
I could do a whole other hour tonight on that with Olivia, but it's a good question for sure.
Well, in fact, if you think about it, Dreams, in a way, are more, you kind of get more interaction on that level than you would if you were just abducted, oddly enough, when you're dealing with any of those grays or Pleiadians or whatever.
So, what's interesting about that is, you know, the grays.
I was having a conversation with Graham Hancock, and he was telling me about his ayahuasca experiences, and all of them were very interesting.
One of the ones that I found interesting.
That he mentioned was that one of these grays popped into his ayahuasca trip.
And I wondered, you know, it's not interesting.
You know, forget about the hallucinatory aspect of it.
Like maybe that's kind of their natural state.
Maybe that's really where they are in that sense.
And, you know, I also got the impression from that that, like, you also have to ask yourself would you want an experience like that?
Maybe not, you know, so that's interesting too.
But, um, what is it that operates in a space vehicle but also shows up on the astral plane in this way?
And maybe that gives us some hints of what John Mack was trying to do.
As I heard back in those days, um, and you know, I met him when I was like 18 years old, and what he was trying to do was teach people astral travel as a way not to be abducted.
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So, think about.
How he had come to that end of things after studying the UFO abduction phenomena.
You know, you operate on a number of different levels.
And so the astral level is certainly key.
And with that, Miss Olivia.
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We're out of time.
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And I anticipate, I keep hearing about some interesting things going on about when they're going to announce these UFO hearings with Tim Burchett.
I've given my public suggestion to Tim Burchett that don't let guys like Grush sit there.
Don't sit there with your mouth open and be like, wow, so they got aliens, huh?
Nail him on who put him up there, who put him up to it, and what's the nature of the CIA UFO threat.
Ask him about how Elizondo groomed him and ask him if he's still working for the government, albeit in a contractor style role.
Get to the bottom of things.
Because that's all we need is a show on Congress.
The back of this book, you know, this is a remarkable book that Scully wrote, but one thing here were 16 alien bodies recovered from a dome shaped device that crashed near the town of Aztec, New Mexico in 1948?
Why does the FBI continue to withhold 200 pages of classified material on the case for alleged national security reasons?
Was the incident covered up with a camouflage front story presided over by con men and scam artists who were perhaps in the government's pay?
Did President Eisenhower make contact with aliens around the same time, thus adding weight to this and other UFO crashes?
It's interesting, isn't it?
There's something back there that compels us.
It's like we know something went on, and it's some kind of unconscious connection to the whole thing that we understand almost through telepathy that Ike and Truman and Kennedy were involved in dealing with this.
It's too dark to try to connect to Johnson or Nixon.
But we get something from working in that period.
And there's a great human awakening going on back then.
Well, what they're trying to do, in my opinion, the true awakening is at hand around so many of these things.
And they're trying to force it off into a detour.
And it's the eighth sphere virtual reality AI detour.
And so we are in a very dangerous, but a very highly.
Let's say the opportunities are great in the situation that we find ourselves in.
We will see you all next week.
Can I end on this note?
Yes.
Jeremy Robert Walker says, We're not alien, we're human.
And people are afraid to comprehend how much more extraordinary human is than alien can ever be.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
One of the points I've tried to make about Atlantis and the things that the mystery schools try to bring forward is if we discover, rediscover ourselves as Atlanteans, it's a much bigger disclosure.
Than having peers who are off world, you know, that's the big disclosure.
And I feel like there's a whole spin to come in relation to that as well.
So, I wouldn't be surprised.
You know, the false Atlantis disclosure.
They have, you know, they've covered it up for so long.
And it's worked.
You know, the UFO cover up and the Atlantis cover up, they've kept the culture in this kind of arrested state.
But I think that they know whether it's astrological or astronomical, we have arrived at a place where so many of these things are going to come out.
And so the power position of these people is dramatically threatened, which is why you see.
The most bizarre things like, hey, let's block out the sun.
Yeah, it's good for climate change.
And, you know, that's becoming a real IQ test.
Forget about the regular IQ test.
The real IQ test is, do you believe that?
And so that's the way it's going to go.
And I think there is a way to restore trust in, you know, a good government.
And I think if you had somebody like Bobby Kennedy at the helm of that government, he could do a lot of good with it.
It's worth a shot.
Tremendous opportunities.
And Bobby, you know, He's got a lot of talents to bring to bear and a lot of history behind him.
So there's a lot of fate playing out here.
We will see you all next week with a very exciting interview for you and some exciting episodes coming up.
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Have a fantastic weekend.
And, you know, Miss Olivia, it says end broadcast, but after all, never really ends.
Never really ends.
And hats off to you, Frank Scully.
Very interesting thing, legacy that you've left us with.
We will see you all next week.
Short order cook one says, I hate it when the show is over.
It's like my weekend is finished early.
I know exactly what you mean.
The party's over.
You know the song, It's Only Just Begun.
But like I say, you know, it says end broadcast there, but never really ends.
It never really ends.
And never let it be forgot that once there was a camelot.