Gigi Young Ahriman Visions UFO File Musk Myth exposes how astroturfing distorts esoteric truths into garish caricatures, linking red lighting at the Grammys and Neuralink to MKUltra-style control. She critiques Gaia's commercialization of spirituality while drawing parallels between Elon Musk and Wernher von Braun, suggesting their shared Nazi occult beliefs drive a devolutionary "playing God" agenda. Ultimately, this manipulation replaces genuine spiritual sovereignty with technological dependency, framing humanity's evolution as a trap within a manufactured narrative of alien gods and forced migration. [Automatically generated summary]
Transcriber: CohereLabs/cohere-transcribe-03-2026, WAV2VEC2_ASR_BASE_960H, sat-12l-sm, script v26.04.01, and large-v3-turbo
Time
Text
Reinterpreting Inner Earth Spheres00:14:58
Hello, everyone.
This is Dark Journalist.
Tonight I have a special interview for you with intuitive mystic Gigi Young.
Gigi's grasp of the esoteric and the Aramonic forces operating in plain sight is remarkable, and today she's going to show us how the mystery schools, UFO file, powerful elite, and the pages of history are all going to come together and unfold in this cosmic battlefield of truth, half truth, and fiction.
Please join us now.
Gigi, it's great to have you back.
Let's start with the astroturfing we see all over the mainstream on these topics.
There's this level of it that's true, but then it starts getting distorted further and further into basically delusion and fantasy.
And I think it's just that, you know, in the mystery school tradition, you have to have a very high initiation to be able to talk about these kinds of things without it going into some kind of fantastical.
You know, dream world experience.
And the problem is, is that a lot of people, when they do begin to wake up, they believe these things because suddenly their whole world is different than it was yesterday.
And a lot of things they thought were impossible or conspiracy theories are now true.
Right.
And so, why can't somebody be in a cave with a reptilian?
You know, because in their mind, they're in that hypnagogic state of awakening where people are already.
Um, sort of seeing their world fall apart, that they become very vulnerable to that kind of stuff.
And the proof of this is that this kind of material is so common in the new age.
It is so popular in the new age.
It is actually probably becoming, over the last 10 years, the most popular kind of information.
It's called star seed information.
Um, and I believe it is a natural movement into the Aquarian age.
Which is a kind of cosmic spirituality.
It's where we see the cosmos as a spiritual being and ourselves within it.
And we look at the different planetary spheres and we kind of expand ourselves.
And we also see Christ in the cosmos and the cosmic Christ and all this kind of beautiful information about how the soul moves in the cosmos.
That's a genuine level of Aquarian spirituality that we'll move into.
But how it's manifesting is actually in the idea of aliens and extraterrestrials and sort of bizarre looking.
Beings and sort of UFO cults, and quite frankly, teachings and things that don't recognize any, that don't resemble any of the true esoterica around these topics.
It's becoming like a garish caricature of what it really should be.
And it's very, it's becoming really popular because the impulse is to go cosmic, which is also why we see disclosure and.
The government slowly wants to like creep its way into this conversation, control it, because that's where we're going.
But it's again, it's a garish caricature of what it should be that's lacking any kind of spiritual.
It's a spiritual topic, too.
I know we've had this conversation, and it's like it's not a military topic.
You know, interdimensional beings, even advanced technology, this is not a topic for the government or the military.
This is a spiritual topic.
Right.
It involves dimensional shifting and density shift.
So it is a spiritual topic.
It's not the topic where you should have, like, the military talking about it and the government talking about it.
They don't belong in the condition that it is, they do not belong in the topic.
And that's my opinion.
So interesting.
Wow.
Well, you've been very good at raising alarm bells about this and doing it in such a way that, you know, You're not hitting people over the head with it, but you're saying, look, there is no third way.
It's not that you can have a false thing side by side with this true thing and you get by.
You have to kind of figure out which one is telling you the truth.
So, around disclosure and things of this nature, it's funny because we're getting all these different things rolled in.
I'm glad actually you started with the UFO one, but we see also that they're talking about, well, it's undersea.
You know, there's a whole civilization undersea, and we might be, you know, that might be what they're hiding there.
And we see undersea trends the same way we saw UFO trends rolled out a couple of years ago.
So, there's a menace under the seas, Gigi, all of a sudden.
Yes, a trans medium.
That's it.
It's transmedium.
They came up with it.
Yeah, transmedium now, and it's USOs.
And of course, there's USOs.
That's been talked about for actually thousands of years.
No, no, TTSA just discovered it in 2017.
Right.
Right.
They discovered it, and then they relabel it so they can track how people talk about what they've discovered as a kind of operation.
So, but.
Yeah, the undersea thing is an interesting angle because I think that ultimately, whatever they go with, it's going to involve discovering something where nobody else can access it.
Right?
So they discovered an undersea cave.
There's something in Marianas Trench.
You know, there's something on the moon.
There's something on Mars.
There's something on Antarctica.
Well, of course there is.
Because the only people that are going there are you, right?
That's you know, if anything, you want it to be right, right?
It's like you're okay, so you're you discovered it, right?
The government and all of the scientists that are paid by the government, and they're all doing the research on it because academia is surrounded by gatekeepers that do not allow real natural researchers to do anything, and then.
Serve you on a silver platter this new origin story, which is what I think it's going to be kind of rewrite human history and give us a new prehistory, you know, give us a new origin story to disconnect us with our spiritual origins.
And I also think roll out a hyper technological society with this advanced technology that is supposed to heal, that's supposed to.
Sort of take over where spirituality would be, but now here's this advanced technology.
You know, I think it's going to be that sort of thing that they're ultimately positioning for if I had to say what it is.
And the location of whatever they're going to discover, whatever they're going to disclose, I think fundamentally has to be somewhere where nobody else can look at it and evaluate it and thus have another opinion about it.
So, interesting.
And it could also be like an inner earth thing.
I know there's a whole.
Scene of researchers that believe in inner earth caverns that can be reached through going underwater and that there could be a hidden world sort of in this honeycombed earth that's also quite a popular one as well.
So, absolutely.
Well, we've had this kind of idea since the you know genies and everything else, and elementals and fairies intersecting our world, and it's an awareness level, and then you find.
Even the stories about Inner Earth, they have a ring of history to them.
At a certain point, there's no question civilization went underground and for good reason.
So, what we're looking at now, though, is like a repackaging.
And so, Hollow Earth becomes something where, hey, all the Nazis met up with the aliens in the Hollow Earth, and there's all these things going on.
And there's the levels of civilization.
How do you cut through, you know, when you think about just what's out there now and, you know, you think about how it got there and the influences that we can trace?
Theosophy, anthroposophy, all that Eastern wing, you know, the explosion of TM and all this kind of stuff, that we have some idea.
Even that is, there's a lot of layers already there.
How do you cut through the manipulation of narratives like that?
I think, in the collective sense, I think it's something that we're going to have to go through because I think that there's so many people that are not.
Prepared for this topic, that I think we're going to have to go through a level of false disclosure.
And I think that's just going to be the awakening process.
But how it starts and how it ends is very different.
And what's most important is who has the last word.
And the truth always has the last word.
And so while there may be kind of a, you know, more of a showy, strange disclosure narrative that we're talking about now.
I think that we can prepare a parallel narrative that is actually true, you know, that is going alongside of it.
But we will have to go through ultimately the false disclosure just because I don't think we have the numbers to change that too much, in my opinion.
And I think it's actually important to also go through kind of a false disclosure because there's been so much positioning.
And so I think that's actually important for humanity to go through.
I think it's important sometimes to go through the lie so that you can really appreciate the truth.
And so I think that's what we're going to see.
But the reality is, you know, about theosophy, about anthroposophy, the funny thing is, and this is coming from somebody who was a New Ager, who came into the cosmic scene, you know, all of this stuff was covered.
All of the stuff about beings from other spheres.
Is what they were often called.
They weren't called aliens, they weren't called extraterrestrials, they weren't even considered other.
You know, back in the mystery schools, if there was a being from another sphere, you know, they were considered another kind of human being in another developmental system that's parallel to our own.
But there was a way in which we could track exactly who they were in relationship to the earth.
And that's that interdimensionality piece that has rules or spiritual laws around who can appear.
On a planet, it has to do with inner earth and it has to do with the planet as a being.
But there really is no extraterrestrial.
We really have that.
That's going to be one of the biggest things that people have to wake up to we're not looking at a fundamentally material phenomenon.
And as long as we approach it that way, we're going to be misled.
Can things materialize?
Yes, but it's not a material phenomenon.
And that's going to be one of the biggest things.
And the mystery schools knew this, they knew about the interdimensional quality.
And even John Keel and Jacques Valet, after decades and decades of research and dedicating their life to this, came to that conclusion.
You know, they, after so many examining so many cases, talking to people, you know, all the access they had, they started out thinking it was a material phenomenon.
And then by the end of their life, they were convinced that it was really better described as an interdimensional phenomenon that was absolutely parallel to the idea of what you said, the djinn.
The fairies and every culture had a different language for it.
But how now that we've been shifting into this materiality, the scientific materialism, we're only perceiving the most material part of it.
And so if you go back to even theosophy and anthroposophy, they say like beings from other spheres.
And again, these were beings that could be communicated with, they were also considered connected.
The angelic hierarchies, the spiritual hierarchies, but there was a place to put it.
It wasn't like this being's coming here, who are they?
It was like there was a process there.
So we're not heading into that correctly at all.
We're being brought into this as though this is a physical being with a physical ship.
And a lot of people are looking at it in a way that will lead to delusion ultimately if it's not introduced properly.
So they're getting a.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, this is really interesting because they have a whole nuts and bolts story ready, you know, and they have the whole threat thing.
So we have an actual office dedicated to this now.
And, you know, we found out just in the weirdness of the whole balloon thing that happened that a lot of those reports that they were relying on were these balloons.
You know, there were a lot of balloons that were hovering outside our territory.
And so some of the UFO.
Things that got that whole UAP task force, you know, and all the different offices that we have for UFOs now, which are going to be funded because they're attached to this National Defense Authorization Act, you know, aren't coming from the actual files of the UFO file and reports and things of that nature.
They're coming from anomalous stuff and just, you know, saying, oh, this is UFOs.
So this is interesting to me because they're taking the cultural narrative about the UFO thing into a different place.
Beyond Material UFO Phenomena00:07:05
So let's say, People had all these experiences in the 80s and 90s.
They were abducted.
And, you know, some of them had objects left in their bodies and things of this nature.
So it seems to me that part of what you're bringing across is there could be a reinterpretation around some of this instead of just thinking, hey, these are aliens coming in and testing people, that this is another group operating there.
Yes, I think the phenomenon is ultimately very complicated.
And I think a lot of things are being conflated into one thing.
So, you have genuine interdimensional beings that are beings from other spheres, or, you know, as you've mentioned before, the saintly realm, things like this.
But then you also have a group that's not from another sphere at all.
It's from our earth and it's connected to our earth, but they pose as aliens or they pose as these spiritual godlike beings, but they're really more like a fallen.
They're really more like fallen angels or a fallen aspect of our own self.
And so I would say that a lot of the technologies and a lot of things going on, I actually wouldn't place as off world at all, though I think that some of it clearly is.
It's not a one size fits all, it has to be very carefully evaluated.
Everything has to be very carefully discussed and evaluated for what exactly it is because it's not easy to place.
But I do think that we are also dealing with.
I would say a breakaway civilization from Atlantis that would have advanced technology.
And I think crypto terrestrial would fit that a lot better.
Right.
And so that's something that's a little bit different.
That's not someone that's from another sphere, that's something that is attached to this sphere.
And through certain spiritual laws and the laws of the earth, it is sort of almost stuck in between or living parallel to us.
This is why the spiritual education is so important.
It's because there's so much phenomenon.
There's so many different types of phenomenon that can go on.
And so I do think that there's a parallel culture.
And I think that most people talk about like this darker parallel culture.
And we've talked about this in our last interview, where they have certain religious tenants.
And one of the tenants is genetic modification.
This is a very big tenant in their religion.
And also, I would say being worshipped, being seen as gods.
I think the planet Mars is also very big in there.
And there are certain markers that you can see that this sort of parallel civilization functions by.
You know, that's what I would say, but it's sort of more connected to the Earth.
And it would be comparable to Edgar Cayce's Belial.
Or something like that from Atlantis that's sort of continuing on in our time.
Interesting, right.
Well, we have the story back there from Casey and others about the Atlantean scientists and the things that they did that went wrong.
You know, misfiring the two eyed stone, the creation of these half mechanical, half animal automatons.
Yes.
That's interesting because.
It seems like we went through this.
Maybe the earth was at a different stage, so the manifestations were far out.
But how different, really, is the idea of cloning and mixing animal with human tissue?
I mean, it's not that different after all.
It's the same thing, it's the same culture, it's the same impulse, it's the same group.
Yeah.
Just doing it in this particular epoch.
And we're just going around that wheel of samsara.
And we're experiencing the same thing in a little bit of a different way.
You know, we're a little bit more separate from each other now.
Everything's a little bit more dense now than it was in Atlantis, but it is the same pattern.
It is the same group.
Things are repeating.
And so, yeah, that's what I would probably say is important for people to understand.
How do you think the Atlantean scientific?
You know, in this battle that went on between the Belial scientific groups who are after this might is right and making themselves demigods and things of this nature.
How does that echo out now?
You know, is it we're looking maybe at themes that are coming back up again?
Is it an actual reincarnation pattern?
I think it is.
I think it is an actual reincarnation pattern.
I think that's how it works, is so that we re experience the same thing from a slightly different angle to choose differently.
And so I do think we're dealing with the reincarnations of probably the same people, certainly the same themes and the same people.
And.
You know, if you understand what happened in Atlantis and those themes there, it really puts the last few years into perspective.
And it really puts, it gives you kind of like maybe the spiritual beliefs of the people in power.
In a way that we haven't really seen before.
Yeah, in a way that we haven't really seen and that we need to understand if you're going to.
Do any kind of prediction or any kind of, you know, knowing how things are going to go.
You have to know how the past went if you want to know how the future is going to go.
So, do you, that's really true.
I think instantly, and when I saw these clips of the Grammys, I instantly thought of you and all the work that you've done with the In Plain series that you did, In Plain Sight, about all these occult rituals that take place in public.
That one, as I was thinking, this reminds me so much.
Of how these elites are just coming out, and they almost can't help it at this point, but expose that the level of ceremonial magic that they've interpreted and inherited from schools that really were trying to bring ceremonial magic in differently to the public.
Dominating Forces and Spiritual Laws00:02:07
And that whole thing got hijacked, and here they are doing the ultimate kind of black mass type rituals that would make heavy metal and things like that seem like a joke.
What is going on there with that?
Why this, I have to be in your face with this satanic influence?
Influence, just knock you over the head with it so that there's no denying it.
It's just like worshiping of Satan on live network TV.
I think they need your permission.
You know, I think that's always a huge part of it.
They need to get your permission and your participation.
If they have those two P's, your permission and your participation, then they can get your energy.
And if they can get your energy, they can redirect it any way that they want.
Right.
So it's all about harvesting energy and redirecting that energy.
And I think there's also a sick rush and feeding that goes on as well, where we get to do the most depraved and insulting things to you, which is a form of domination, right?
It's a form of dominating the public.
We're going to do things that insult your soul, that violate you spiritually, and you're not going to do anything about it.
So it's a form of humiliating you, and it's also a form of dominating you and breaking you down.
And this is true whether you believe it or not.
You know, whether you believe you have a soul or not, you do.
And whether you believe you have a soul or not, there are laws, there are spiritual laws, and they are following them in their sick way.
And I think the people that are participating in it are gone anyway.
I don't really think that there's much really self respect left there anyway.
So they're a black hole at this point.
They're a black hole, yeah.
But it's, it's to insult the public.
It's, it's a way of dominating them, um, and, or dominating us.
So that's why they do it in plain sight.
Simulated Spiritual Technologies00:07:36
Right.
The red was very important, I always look for that because the red spectrum is also very important in dark occult rites because that's the spectrum of the lower plane.
So if you look at Rudolf Steiner's drawing of the eighth sphere, you'll see it depicted as a red, I guess, as a red realm that's connecting, it's not the moon, but it's between the moon and the earth.
It's a realm that's.
Marked by the orbit of the moon.
And that is perceived as red or like that lower infrared, I think it's called that spectrum.
That's also considered a sort of link to the demonic plane as well by bringing that infrared spectrum or red spectrum.
That color is very important in those kinds of rights.
And so when you see that, just walk away.
Well, it's interesting because they used almost the same exact lighting for the Biden domestic terrorism speech.
Yes.
They did a crazy little puppet in a demon production.
It's a kind of spectrum of lighting that links directly with that plane.
Yeah.
Interesting.
You mentioned the eighth sphere there.
You've done a lot of work on the eighth sphere.
You've brought it to, I think, a level where people could start to understand it.
We brought it in in a series of episodes that you and I did.
And now people, it seems like, talk about it, are able to get it.
To a certain degree, it's been there, it's been hiding out in the Steiner literature, and now we have this kind of renaissance around it and around people understanding the Aramonic uh piece.
Aramon is interesting because that's kind of an Aramon display, the Grammys piece.
It really is, yeah.
So he's gone, he's gone prime time, he's prime time, he's trotting around within the audience.
Oh, yeah, he's loving that kind of stuff, absolutely.
If it humiliates you, if it insults you, he's eating, you know.
When you get to the eighth sphere and you think about the next levels that they've taken us with the technology, and in a sense, I mean, you and I both are kind of fans of technology.
This is the weird thing.
So, this is not from the, oh, hey, technology is bad.
And the other thing is also, when it comes to music shows being sexy and bad or something like that, I don't even care.
The thing is, this isn't about, and one thing I worry about is a whole like, Ayatollah type wave coming in, which would be the other thing they could do, come in with serious conservatism, a fascist version of conservatism to be like, hey, can't smoke in public and that kind of thing.
But it's interesting to me because here we are, we're people who understand technology and use it on a daily basis.
And yet, both of us can tell that the thing that's being constructed, especially around younger minds who go into deeper and deeper levels of this with less and less layers of protection, you're going into A virtual reality realm.
And they even try to rent out, you know, the metaverse, real estate in the metaverse with tons and tons of investment around that didn't do very well.
But where is that going, Gigi?
And that is the epitome of, hey, I'm renting my room in the eighth sphere.
I mean, yes.
I mean, the metaverse logo is actually an eight, you know, it's actually a lemon skate.
Exactly.
So is the Neuralink logo.
I don't know if anyone noticed that.
But St. Elon is, you know, he's doing everything to clean up Twitter, don't you know?
Yeah, that was an interesting operation.
That was an interesting operation trying to gain trust.
So, anyhow, but yeah, it's not that you can't use technology or you have to throw your phone in the lake or something.
It's that technology cannot replace your spiritual connection.
You can't long for technology to fulfill something within you that is ultimately only going to be fulfilled by God.
And so that's the real risk.
There's obviously a healthy use of technology that allows us to connect right now and get so much knowledge and amazing things.
But if it's taking the place of your relationship with God, your self development, if you're addicted, if you're looking for your light in that, then which a lot of younger generations now are.
And that is where Aramon rests, is when you replace the technology for spiritual development.
And it's actually going to get, I think, worse and worse because I think there's also going to be technologies introduced that are healing and they introduce like a vibrational, like frequency or certain spiritual technologies that are completely external and are all about affecting an individual from the outside in when our era of development is about inside out.
There's also going to be, I think, maybe.
Some strange technologies that are spiritual technologies, but they're not really spiritual.
They're sort of more harmonic.
They're going to normalize this idea then of you sort of volunteering to become a cyborg because you'll be augmented.
Yes, exactly.
They're going to introduce that augmentation by hooking you up to a machine because it'll regulate something or it'll allow you to have a clairvoyant experience or it will whatever.
And they're spiritual.
It's a spiritual experience, but it's not at all.
It's just a simulated experience.
It's just a simulated experience all around.
Interesting.
That does make me think of Steiner immediately.
This is the thing about Steiner, too.
I don't want to turn him into one of those, hey, he predicted this and he predicted that, guys.
And we have lots of people who are hardcore about predictions now.
I predict this for 2025.
Everything's coming down.
The crash is coming.
I think predictions are terrible, in fact.
And it's a tough way to live, right?
But there are themes that are laid out in advance.
And it seems like some of those themes, let's say with the mystery schools, earth changes, you know, a number of different things that were left, letting us know that you're heading into this very, very difficult 21st century in terms of navigating these forces all coming in at once.
But Steiner, at a certain point, when he's talking about Ahriman, and again, the thrust, I would say, of his Ahriman.
Work is that for me, he spent four decades trying to articulate look, you have this force coming in, dark astral force, which is somehow wrapped up in the evolution of the earth, and it's going to come out and face humanity in this hyper, you know, through the technology of this period.
And he specifies the period as the one that we're in going all the way through this hundred year period.
So at a certain point, he says, well, Aramon is going to give everyone their own set.
MKUltra and Forced Spiritual States00:09:20
Clairvoyance.
And so it's not going to match up very well because each person will have clairvoyance.
What is that getting at?
So we're getting to that where, you know, we know that when we have Facebook or Amazon listening to our devices instantly, they start producing ads and all this kind of thing.
Does it get to the point where they read our thoughts?
There has, I mean, I think people watching are probably thinking of that weird time where they never Googled anything and they never said anything out loud, but then that ad appears on their phone about that thing they never spoke out loud about.
Do you have it?
Has that ever happened to you where you didn't Google anything?
You didn't Google anything.
You didn't say anything out loud.
You were just like, huh, I think I might have this or I think I might need this.
And then the ad shows up and you're like, how?
You know what I mean?
That has happened.
And it makes me wonder whether or not that does exist, although I'm not too educated in that kind of how that technology would work or anything.
But it sounds like it's operational.
I mean, I feel.
Personally, had experiences, and let us know in the comments, you guys, if you've had an experience where you have seen something that you've only thought about appear in an ad because it's always about making that money, right?
So they always monetize whatever stuff they probably have.
But I think that there is no cheap way into clairvoyance.
And I think that, you know, you have to earn your ability to.
See into other worlds through the purification of your own heart and also through dedication to service.
That's the only way, and often sacrificing yourself and often parts of your own life for that.
That's the only way that you get to see into other worlds is if you're completely dedicated to service and you are dedicated to purifying your own heart and your own self.
So, clearing your trauma.
You know, facing that.
So it's connected to self development, personal development, personal responsibility, and then dedication to loving and being in service.
That's the only way that those abilities happen.
And they don't happen in one life, they happen, you have to do it life after life after life after life.
And there's an unfoldment that happens where eventually you become stronger and stronger, and you can actually handle the reality of these abilities because.
Those kinds of abilities that are spiritual abilities come with the dark and the light.
If you want to see into the light realms, you have to overcome that dark side too.
And so, yes, and so this is why the mystery schools would go through grades of initiation where you would be guided into different questions about yourself and considerations and ponderings that had directly to do with the collective.
And there was a specific way that you were brought into these things in our ancestral past.
And so, the idea that you can just put a chip in your brain or that you can take DMT or some kind of plant medicine or some kind of hallucinogen to open the door and then have like a machine hooked up to you or something, these are not the same thing.
And it's a different thing entirely, actually.
It's actually a different thing entirely.
So, you can't even call that clairvoyance.
You can't even use these kinds of words for that because it's just not the same thing.
It's literally.
Trying to do something that's an internally based process using external means.
And when you do that, you completely give up your sovereignty, by the way, to whoever has created these machines that give you the clairvoyance or to whoever is giving you these hallucinogenic drugs.
Because that's usually how I see it, is that I see these massive sort of DMT cults coming forward eventually in the next few decades and hallucinogenic plant medicines and misusing those in order to break people open.
Which is part of mind control.
It's part of MKUltra, right?
Is the use of these plant medicines, mushrooms, DMT, LSD.
I mean, with MKUltra, one of the guys from MKUltra used to joke, he said, We bought all the LSD in the world.
So I see that part of me thinking about how would Aramon manifest?
Like, how would he appear on stage?
I think that there would be a.
Machinery and things like that, which is very harmonic.
But I also think that they're probably what you see in MKUltra is probably pretty close the use of forcing people into spiritual states that are unearned or forcing people into these disassociation, basically.
Right.
That's how I think he would manifest personally.
Right.
That's defenses down for an individual in service to this.
Being.
And it's interesting, you can get the whole culture to lower their shields under conditions like that.
Because, like you're saying, hey, they introduce all these illnesses, and then they're like, the only way you can get well from these strange illnesses we created is for you to take this little chip under the skin that regulates your body and your metabolism and all these things, and it's going to be great.
The only problem is it connects you directly to that central machine.
Exactly.
And it's like, is there a more perfect way to introduce transhumanism than to severely damage neurologically the entire population?
Or damage their bodies, damage their heart to the point where you can't lead a normal life.
But guess what?
Oh my gosh, you will not believe the technology we have.
We can regulate that.
And you know what?
You'll be better off.
You'll be better than you ever were before.
So it's creating these vulnerabilities and then, of course, having the solution.
And most people would never, ever even.
And I think the reason is because most people may not be awake, but they have some sensibility to not.
Walk into Armand's trap or not walk into these degraded practices that are again part of this degenerate group that's been on the arts for a long time.
Religion, this is part of their religion, that's how I see it.
This is the these are all part of their religious tenets.
Um, that you know, they wouldn't walk into that if they had a choice.
But now, if you have a lot of health issues, um, and you may think differently, so.
This is how they're getting in, in fact.
So you can get in through greed, you know, with the financial system.
At a certain point, everyone I knew was working for a financial company.
I'm like, what's going on here?
You know, people used to have diversification of jobs.
And I remember, you know, in my 20s, everyone was like, oh, I'm working for this financial services company, including me.
So it is interesting because they came in with this greed piece.
And then the other thing now, it's healthcare, but it's not, again, it's not what's put out there as healthcare.
And we talk about these labels and what they really.
Actually, represent because the idea of healthcare is great, right?
Yes.
But Armonic Healthcare is here, inject this thing into you, become part of the machine.
I'm going to make you a cyborg, and you'll be healthier as a cyborg.
That's different.
That's a heck of a lot different because you're challenging the barrier of what it is to be a human being, which is totally different than saying, I have something here which will alleviate the ills of humanity, which is an organic process.
Yes, exactly.
It's, and it's, It takes advantage of the most vulnerable people in society as well when they do things like this.
So that's why it's extremely sick.
They do the same thing with climate change, as you've so eloquently pointed out on your show so many different times, is where they damage the planet, these huge corporations, and they profited immensely.
It's actually one of the reasons why they have the money.
And then they blame the cows in the field, and they blame you can't have a barbecue in your backyard or a gas stove.
You know, and it's the same, it's demeaning, isn't it?
Like, it's the same thing.
You create an injury, you damage people, and then you make, you know, they suffer even more.
So it's the same sort of pattern.
And that, like, if you boiled it down to an individual, that's like a narcissistic psychopath, right?
Exactly.
Psychic Tools and CIA Narratives00:15:37
Yeah.
World government, watch out.
Exactly.
And then it's like most people I've seen, you know, there's so many people that just don't believe that.
Psychopaths exist, or that they could organize into like a group of psychopaths and like act together, which is clearly what's going on.
The government means well, it's just incompetent, don't you know?
Oh, no, yeah.
That's going to be a.
You reminded me of something we were talking back there.
And as usual, when I talk to you, my brain plugs into like 90 different centers.
It's interesting.
There's a A director who directed these documentaries back in the early 70s, he was going to put out a huge UFO disclosure documentary for the Nixon administration before the Nixon administration got into trouble.
And he told this whole story and he said they had footage of a UFO landing and all these other things.
But one of the interesting things that happened with him is they gave him access in the Pentagon to walk around and see the programs that they were working on.
And one of them included, that he notes, included a soldier in 1972.
And the soldier has these electrodes on connected to a TV screen.
And he's trying to visualize things like horses, stars, pyramids, whatever it happens to be.
And they are appearing through the static of the screen and forming into shapes that he's thinking.
That's 1972.
So when you were talking about the Facebook ads and Amazon and activating all this internet advertising based on your thoughts, they were working on it 50 years ago.
My guess is they actually have it.
Oh, yeah.
That is, you know what, too?
As you were saying that, I was getting the vision of did you hear about that guy who I think the CIA probably found him at some point, but he could actually take like a blank piece of film?
Yes.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, Ted Serios.
And he could actually put a scene on a camera.
Right.
He had this whole thing where he could impress upon any camera.
Whatever he was thinking.
So that was, you know, the Eiffel Tower, bang, it's right there.
It appears in the film.
So, is that something like if a film script can pick it up and it's from the mind or from the, or is it like an image that's actually appearing in the energy body?
And then, but I mean, yeah, I believe they probably do, which is very creepy.
Right.
But I'd like to think that there's some secured lines, you know, going on.
Right.
Everyone's just going to walk around paranoid after that one.
Yeah, I'm sorry, guys.
You see, I mean, that is interesting, though, thinking about the military working on who's good at sending this kind of thing.
And then you, let's take someone like you, how the military would love to have someone who could envision these things, right?
So they would take a Gigi Young and they would utilize her for a program like that, and they'd get all this psychic information based on the fact.
That we've been able to monitor and test Gigi Young and these programs like they did really in SRI.
And then the CIA has all that information.
Gigi, what is the next step of what they're doing with it?
Obviously, they have a psychic tool in mind.
Yeah, wow.
Well, they could, well, there's lots of things that are actually coming into my mind right now with it, but they could obviously use it in a very manipulative way.
Yeah.
In lots of different ways, but I actually think that there are certain technologies that don't work unless there are certain images that can be produced or certain frequencies that are created.
And there's just, I think, certain things that cannot be accessed unless these things are produced within a human being.
So I think that's one thing.
I think also you could have these memories and experiences.
And if they have not yet pierced the veil of the collective, there's great power in that.
So there's.
Oh, I see.
Yes.
So there's always, from what I understand, there's always, there's like classical information that is spiritual science, right?
And all mystics should know this and teach this and understand this, but there's another level of information that is visionary information.
And it is very hard to get right.
And because you have to really offer a part of yourself to get it.
So, not every psychic can function on a visionary level, but pretty much every psychic can work within what's already created.
Not every psychic can channel a piece of information for the time that is visionary for the time.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So, there's.
It reminds me about the mirror idea, which is, you know, mystics.
Have talked about this where you get into a certain place where you can see it.
It's like looking at a reflection in a mirror, but you can't touch the thing.
So, like a CIA program might get a kind of superficial layer of how that psychic process works, but they can't embody it.
Yeah.
Somebody who's a natural mystic would.
Yes.
And then obviously they could make the technology work.
If there was a technology like that, they could make the technology work and they could exploit and create a false experience for the world.
Right.
Right.
And yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
So if you have, and this is particular, there's certain visionary experiences and pieces of information that need to come forward to initiate an age.
And that information and vision and experience cannot come forward until the right time.
And not a moment sooner, not a moment later.
So nobody knows what that chapter is going to be.
Nobody knows what that.
Energy is going to be, but there has to be some people who embody that and they'll do it at the right time.
And so, if a group could get a hold of that information and that vision, those symbols, that imagery, that feeling, and that experience, they could use that to manipulate the public into something because the public would automatically trust them.
Because there's something there that they remembered.
Does that make sense?
And if there was a technology, if there was a technology that could augment that or create that or Replace the psychic or something that would be that could be very dangerous because it would be used in the wrong way.
I, yeah, you know, that's really interesting.
And I'm glad that we're getting at the precautions on this because there's a lot of noise out there around these things.
And we've talked about it, you know, whether it's that kind of Gaia TV level of buzzword around consciousness, spirituality, and things of this nature.
Now, You know, we know that there's a whole superficial kind of marketing layer there, but I feel like there's a heavy, heavy Intel piece that goes along with that.
When you look at it as someone who's engaged in that whole world of things, you know, I know a lot of those companies try to drag you into the projects that they're doing as well, but you keep yourself really doing your own thing because you know that there's something not quite right about what's happening in there.
Yes, I think that.
How I see it is that I think that this group comes into fields like ours, and I think they milk it, and I think that they often abuse people.
And I've just heard so many different stories from people in this field, like you and I, that have these meetings with people from these big television shows, these networks, and these publishing houses.
Ends up being a Faustian sort of bargain.
Interesting.
And it ends up being.
That's really true.
Yeah, it ends up being kind of like a Faustian bargain.
And the bottom line, how I see it, is I don't think that these individuals could even handle or are ready for the kinds of forces that are coming in.
They wouldn't understand it anyway.
Because the level that a lot of these individuals in these darker groups are functioning at, I don't think they could even really perceive it properly.
You know, so I think that there's a desperate need from these groups to harvest information.
You know, like from the X series, I see your show harvested all the time.
I've seen my information harvested.
So there's this desperate need to stay current and to try to get this clear, fresh information, but then put it into their weird system, which is all about making money and maybe creating these little cults and these.
It's just putting it towards all this weird.
Stuff and I see it all the time.
And so much money gets pumped into these various different propaganda networks as well.
And so, like, there is no question.
Like, there is no, I mean, I was thinking about this the other day.
Like, there, I mean, when you're a doctor or you are a lawyer, you know, you have that pinnacle of your career where you're like, well, you could work your way up and you could get this.
And it's like in our field, you know, there really isn't that great.
You know what I mean?
It's the very top of our field.
Maybe it's actually like this in every career now at this point, but the very top, the most popular things in our field are often the things that I would tell people to stay very far away from.
Right, exactly.
The things that have those million dollar budgets, millions and millions of dollars of budgets, and these people that get pushed, like the TTSA, like the Lou Elizondo crowd, all of this kind of stuff.
These are the things I would stay very far away from.
But they're the most, they're on the network news.
They're on Gaia, right?
But these are the things that this is a very, I see it as a very sophisticated propaganda.
Network personally, to speak plainly.
Wow.
Yes, absolutely.
And boy, that's really true.
I've seen so much of your stuff hijacked over time, and none of it comes even close to what you do.
Yeah, I was actually like doing something for Mars Mysteries, and I was going through this is weird.
And I was going through Gaia, and I was going through their catalog, and I had no idea.
I literally came across an episode.
And it was from years ago.
There was someone literally telling one of my stories that I told.
It was my own.
I heard my own work.
Whoa.
Yeah.
At first, I was very, like, entering very naively.
I was like, oh, someone had that experience too.
Like, that's what I thought.
And I was like, oh, no, this is my experience.
Oh, it's classic.
Yeah.
And other people have had that as well.
So, yeah.
I, you know, this is interesting to me because I've emphasized this for 2023, which is potency.
Becomes the most important aspect of this because even the mainstream media is willing on a certain level, a superficial level, to cover these things because they see, ah, people are interested in, you know, like a lot of the topics that we cover the UFO file, Atlantis.
I mean, even those, you know, they don't really capture the full spectrum of the way that we're talking about it because, you know, someone might say, well, the UFO thing, you know, there's all this kind of very degraded material in the field now that wasn't even there 10 years ago.
Yes.
It's actually very empty.
I mean, this field is in the news more than ever.
I mean, I can't log into the Twitter machine without the UFO trending.
Maybe it's just because I like them, but the quality of information is lower than ever.
And it's the same conversation over and over and over again.
And usually it is about technology.
It's just, you know, real advanced, like conversations about advanced technology, which leads you to think that they're looking for a defense budget on this.
Yes.
You know, so you're like, okay, well, you know, here we go.
And then because the technology is always going to, the conversation with the technology, no matter how material it is, it's always going to have a point where it goes spiritual.
As you were talking about the Atlantean technology, where someone can enter into the technology and project their vision for like an operation kind of thing, there's a point where advanced technology is advanced because it has a potheum, right?
Which is the word you coined for the X or for that thing.
So we're not really talking about just technology, we're talking about consciousness.
And so then you're like, okay, well, what's the most popular thing with consciousness?
And it's like, then you go to Gaia.
And it's, you know, blue chickens, or it's, you know, these.
It's somebody telling.
I almost forgot about that, but yes.
It's this story.
It's like this, it's these new origin stories.
But if you look at it, it ends up being like you go into the consciousness aspect or the woo aspect or the spirituality aspect, and it automatically goes into like Anunnaki, alien gods.
All of these different kinds of alien beings, a new human creation myth, then it goes into like Atlantis, and it has the same pattern across the board, but nowhere in that is actually any real empowering sentiments.
It's just sort of like telling you what your history is, you know, telling you how you were created, telling you that all these alien beings are in this.
Anti-Freedom Space Objectives00:06:09
Galactic Federation fleet in a centralized government force protecting you.
You know, we don't like the United Nations.
We don't like corruption and things like that, but it's okay when there's aliens up there doing it.
Hey, listen.
This is where it goes.
This is the, that's where it tends to go.
And it's not very satisfying, you know?
It's fascinating because I was thinking about how they did the whole space president thing with Elon, and this is what they're building up there.
You know, Elon's putting up that whole series of satellites and everything.
And there was, during the whole balloon thing, you had, you know, General Flynn got mixed up in so many weird things around Trump and Obama.
And he's like, you know, oh, please, you know, let's get information and get that balloon down and all this stuff.
And he's putting the message to the Defense Department and Elon Musk.
You know, Elon Musk owns SpaceX, he's a corporate.
Individual, probably multiple individuals own his different corporate entities.
But isn't that weird?
Now we're getting this idea that this guy can solve things that are in our space.
This is a general who had a very high position at the DIA, and he's saying, Oh, Elon, please get to the bottom of this.
What's going on there?
I think that there's definitely an effort, an ongoing effort to probably pitch Elon as some kind of presidential figure.
Or some kind of political hero.
I think initially when he purchased Twitter, he was sort of playing a role in the beginning where he was almost acting as though he was going to be the arbiter of truth or the hero of truth.
They have all those memes of him hugging the Constitution.
Yes, exactly.
He was rescuing the people and free speech.
Which obviously many Americans want.
And so there was also a little bit of a positioning of him there, I think, in people's minds.
And then, so there's sort of positioning him as this libertine, this person who's for liberty and freedom.
But meanwhile, it's confusing because when you look at a lot of his objectives, what he said are actually very anti freedom.
Like he actually lines up a lot with the World Economic Forum in a lot of his.
His desires and obviously Neuralink, you know, his ultimate goal with that is actually to have everyone hooked up to that.
That's the most unfree thing I've ever heard of personally.
Yeah.
It's actually a kind of prison ultimately.
And it's so I think that he's playing a role.
I think that we can't look at Elon Musk, someone with that much money and that much power, and think that this person is acting alone.
You know, he represents, as you mentioned, a panel of people.
And what we're looking at is an unelected individual that's trying to have the power of someone who probably should be elected.
And they're taking advantage of the reality that we're in a time where there's a lot of newness.
Like, we don't really know how to handle a lot of the technological advancements that we have, the kind of technical culture that we've become.
It's sort of transcended a lot of our original understandings of how the Constitution is even understood.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Like, we're kind of in this weird level of advancement where we're very vulnerable.
And I think they're trying to create a new leadership.
But he's unelected.
And it goes against the American culture, against the Constitution.
Miller writes everything to.
And it's also like when he sent the satellite, the Starling satellites, to the Ukraine as well.
You know, he's, it's sort of like he's achieving these means that are probably for the individuals that he represents quietly.
Those are, that's who he's representing.
He's not representing the people.
I think that what he's doing, if anything, is to gain trust.
Right.
Well, it's almost like during the whole COVID piece, they had to lock down everyone from talking to each other, they got rid of people.
You know, forget about the Bill of Rights, you know, anti free speech, clamp it down, clamp it down.
But when you get to a certain point with that, you risk a real pendulum swing in the other direction and people really throwing you out.
So you have to insert a bulwark.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And he, the whole thing that they did with Twitter is that experiment.
And that part of the problem with it, I think, is that all the conservatives who just looking for some kind of champion in media, understandably, but they went for this too quickly.
And too passively.
And so now it's a weird thing.
You're going back and forth.
They did the same thing with Trump to a certain degree.
You know, we saw that during his administration.
But I think the question I want to ask you, Gigi, is what are they building this for in the 2020s here?
Where are they going in this period with the propaganda piece of, you know, taking an individual like that?
You know, because they don't have the Elon model is different than Bezos, for example.
Quietly buys things up in the background, right?
He buys Whole Foods and makes it into, hey, this is going to be the automation robot hub and we won't need people to be cashiers and all that stuff.
Divergent Human Timelines00:10:14
That's one type of operation.
But the Elon one is different.
It is.
And I think that we can notice like a net positive move.
Like, I think somebody who is a controlled bulwark can, we can notice it when they do something that's overall good, that's overall for freedom.
And they will do that.
But it doesn't mean that we worship that person and that because they made some good moves, that everything that they do is therefore good.
So it's this tribal mindset that we have to avoid.
Yeah.
You know, we can say, you know, because even a broken, what's that phrase?
Even a broken clock can be right twice a day.
Oh, yeah.
So I think it's just important to understand that and not approach this tribally so that we can have a very balanced vision because, you know, where the money is placed right now, I don't think there's been enough exposure of the corruption to think that anyone's a totally free operator.
Exactly.
That would warrant some kind of respect in that regard.
You know, we're on some thin ice.
So I think one of the most concerning things I think with Elon that people don't really think about is I think he parallels Wernher von Braun a lot.
Interesting.
Yes.
And so, you know, we were just talking about rituals, and I think that it needs more attention.
And I think it's actually pretty concerning that Elon.
The name appeared in Warner von Braun's Project Mars.
Yes.
In Project Mars, he names the Elon as being the head of the parliament.
He also describes a challenging time on the earth where the world would be at war with Russia.
Now, von Braun felt like this was going to be around 80, around 83 or the 80s or something like that, but that didn't come to pass.
But there was still this concept that he was painting in his book, which is fiction.
But it was sort of like his dream.
It's very technical as well, very technical equations and things like that.
But Van Braun's vision was that the world would go to war with Russia.
And after a long, drawn out war, the population would become broken down and psychologically damaged.
And then a governing body would arise, kind of like the United Nations or something.
He goes into more detail about that.
In his book, but they rise and they actually build a base on the moon and they put weapons on the moon and they put weapons in space.
And then after that, they go to Mars.
And that was what Wernher von Braun said in his Project Mars, using the name Elon.
Now, secret societies will do that, secret societies will use names in a very specific way.
And if you see someone that's that powerful, Using certain names, you need to pay attention because it's part of how they function.
It's part of how they get permission.
So, for me, that's something to pay attention to on the occult side.
And, you know, so now I see this war with Russia again.
And I think about what Werner von Braun wrote.
And I think about the reality that, you know, we still haven't addressed the fact that there is a lot of Nazi roots.
Well, Joseph Farrell has done a wonderful job, obviously, on pointing this out.
But that's also something that needs to be addressed.
And it's not often addressed because, you know, people don't talk about Nazis in the right way.
They talk about it in a totally inflammatory and shallow way and a superstitious way, not in a way where they actually understand.
What they believe.
Interesting.
And they actually understand their origin myth and they actually understand their core character.
So I think that we're going to have to revisit some of that.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Because Elon is carrying out Wernher von Braun's plan.
I mean, Wernher von Braun, his lodestar was Mars.
He always wanted to, that was his thing.
Anyone who worked with him in Huntsville, in Alabama, when he was.
Doing all of his work, said, like, Werner wants to go to Mars.
This is what he wants.
This is his dream.
He had a religious feeling and a spiritual feeling about Mars.
And so when you see Elon doing the same thing, they even have the same belief that I found in Nazi Esoterica, which is an opposite belief to what a lot of the mystery schools taught, which is this belief about the sun dying or the sun exploding and the world dying.
Now, in most of the higher schools, I would say, or certain like theosophy and anthroposophy, you evolve with your sun and your star.
But then what they're talking about is something different.
In some of the origin myths in the Nazi occult literature, their progenitors are fleeing a destroyed star system.
That's what they believe.
And they believe that a planet is ultimately going to die.
And they have to move to another one.
They believe in planet colonization and planet hopping.
And so, this is exactly what Elon Musk also believes.
He believes that the world is eventually going to die and that humanity has to go and colonize another world.
The problem with that is that you cannot go to another planet and make it come alive.
Right.
Every planet has a scheduled process of life and pralea.
It's called pralea in the theosophical tradition and also in anthroposophy.
So, you can't, you know, an individual can't go to a planet and force it alive.
Right.
You also, you know, and so, but there's this playing God aspect that is very much in the Nazi esoterica, particularly.
It's different.
It's a different belief system than other paths when it comes to cosmology.
Other paths believe that you evolve with your star, with your sun.
But this is a different.
It's almost like a divergent timeline, a divergent history, a divergent human history.
Does that make sense?
Oh, no question.
What's fascinating to me is the language that he uses in relation to the Mars mission we need to preserve the light of consciousness.
Yeah, and that's, you don't need to do that.
It's already preserved, it's within you, it's within your being.
Right.
And like when you pass, like the Earth is going to pass into a higher sphere.
It's going to go through its two more epochs and then it's going to pass into an even higher vibrational sphere.
I know many people watching this may be like, What is this lady talking about?
But there's actually a precise science to the evolution of the earth and to human beings that where the planet actually sinks in density, which is known as the biblical fall, and then it also rises and spiritualizes out.
And so you don't need to force that.
We need to align with that and we follow it because we are the planet and we are the sun.
We don't need to get ahead of it.
We don't need to get.
So it's this lost, it's this.
This playing God mentality that has been perpetuated perhaps for an extremely long period of time.
And this impulse is now alive in a lot of different people, but it goes against the natural order of things.
Well, that's interesting because it seems like as we're coming out then, you know, coming into that higher sphere idea of the planet, then that's what's being blocked.
This is the thing.
Because if it comes out of that, then all those entities that have attached, you know, that kind of harmonic rule.
That goes out the window, and they've been doing quite well with it.
Exactly.
And maybe that's what this is really all about creating that eighth sphere in a very technological way.
And maybe that's the level of the eighth sphere that we're looking at today, actually, the creation of it physically or in an etheric way with electricity, with the sort of super frequencies that we're in.
Maybe it involves the moon and Mars as well.
And so it's a different impulse, though, than to.
It's not an evolutionary impulse.
It's a devolutionary impulse.
That's the best.
It's a backwards impulse.
Gigi, absolutely fascinating.
You've outdone yourself today for sure.
Stay right there.
The conversation continues at darkjournalist.com, and we'll go deeper with Gigi on the UFO file.
Now, Gigi's membership site.
With courses and webinars of just remarkable esoteric information available at ggyoung.com.
Of course, her YouTube series, Mars Mysteries, absolutely fascinating, available with a simple search.
Powerful and potent information for the times we're in.
Please join us at darkjournalist.com.
Now we'll see you on Fridays at 8 p.m. with the X series.