Catherine Austin Fitts exposes a global control grid where CBDCs, digital passports, and biometric surveillance erode public sovereignty. She argues the FTX scandal was an intelligence operation to enforce regulatory momentum for this "slavery" system, linking the collapse to neutralizing rivals like Donald Trump. Fitts contends that inflation since the 1990s intentionally steals wealth while distractions like transhumanism confuse the populace. Ultimately, she warns of a digital concentration camp involving electromagnetic harvesting, asserting the conflict is spiritual and urging resistance through personal integrity against invisible weaponry. [Automatically generated summary]
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Bitcoin vs Central Bank Digital Currency00:14:50
Hello, everyone.
This is Dark Journalist.
Tonight, I have a special interview for you as former Assistant HUD Secretary Dylan Reed Partner and the publisher of the Solari Report, Catherine Austin Fitz, will be joining us.
Now, Catherine has been warning of a digital concentration camp with the advent of digital passports and the central bank digital currency.
Tonight, she'll walk us through that dangerous scenario of total control that humanity is heading into, unaware, and also how the FTX scandal and political fallout is part of the program.
Please join us now.
Catherine, let's start this off here with inflation.
It's just, it's the thing that's on everyone's mind nonstop.
What are they doing with this?
Because they knew it had to come from their actions and all the payoffs during the pandemic, et cetera.
Are they just trying to run everyone's savings to oblivion, basically?
Well, you know, this is a reset.
And so you're accelerating the slow burn, you're printing money and injecting it into the places you want to grow, and then the places that don't get it.
Are killed by inflation and you shrink them and pick their assets up cheap.
So you're in a slow burn, slow kill.
I mean, it's an accelerating slow burn, but it's no different than the slow burn we've had all along.
Right, which you think started in the mid 90s.
Yes, it started in the mid 90s.
I mean, if you go back and you look at how the dollar's been run since the Fed came into existence, you know, we've been slow burning since the Fed.
Existed.
That's what 2% inflation regularly up when insiders are keeping ahead of the game and outsiders are dragging behind.
But it's much, much smaller, much more subtle.
So these people that have been saving money all these years and have equity in a house and all the rest of it, they wake up after two years of inflation and their money is worth half of the value.
If they kept it in deposits, remember in 1980, I could get $80.
On my bank CD.
It's incredible.
Okay.
No, you know, so zero risk and I get 8%.
Wow.
So it makes sense to save.
Yeah.
Right.
Now I get nothing and there's risk.
Why save?
Why not just go out and buy, you know, two years worth of office supplies and two years worth of, you know, provision?
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
And the system for doing that, you're saying the slow burn thing, then it's just, More, the inflation part is just another piece of this.
Well, when we started to print and expand the money supply in the mid to late 90s, you know, that was part of stealing all the money out of the federal government.
And you could offset it with labor deflation globally.
So by moving lots of manufacturing and other things to Asia, you dramatically reduce the cost of labor, and that deflation offset your monetary inflation.
Okay.
And there have been various things.
I like to think of Anthony Fauci as a deflation, you know, deflation to go machine.
Anthony shut the economy down for another week.
Too much inflation.
Right.
Right.
When Amarova was nominated for control of the currency, she had just published an article in the Vanderbilt Law Review saying inflation is a problem.
No problem with CBDC.
You just freeze everybody's bank accounts, they can't get any money.
Amazing.
Yeah.
How close do you think they are to doing that?
Because we've seen them do extreme moves out of the blue, like the lockdown.
I think the fastest they could try is maybe a year, year and a half.
What they seem to be doing is with the WHO treaty and the vaccine passports, getting a complete control system in place before CBDC.
Because I think they need another two years.
Maybe they can do it in a year.
But now, I really think they're going to fail.
Right.
You don't think this is a winning formula on their side?
No, I think you know, I walked out in 1998 because I said, Your plan won't work, I'm out, right?
It won't work, so yeah.
We've seen signs of cracks in that consolidation, but it's moving fast, the whole system that's moving in.
The CBDC got a huge boost from this FTX situation.
FTX was an op that got brought down in an op.
Okay.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes.
I was going to ask you about it, but immediately.
Right.
Immediately after it happened, they said, you know what?
We need that regulation.
That's part of the op.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
You know, FTX was a CBDC marketing plan.
Do you know what I mean?
Mm hmm.
I mean, how are you going to market slavery, right?
It's hard.
It is.
You need lots of contrived events.
Up until a month before that crash, they had Freed on the cover of Fortune magazine.
They had him on Meet the Press.
They were hailing him.
Well, the Times just put out an invite to come hear Freed speak with Yellen.
Did you see that?
Yes.
It's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable.
It's very funny because they feel much more empowered to.
They feel much more empowered to just do an op and make it obvious it's an op.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's like, okay, election over.
Bring down the laundry and make sure the bankruptcy court and DOJ have control of all the documents.
Amazing.
And while you're at it, pull the money out.
Right.
And Friedman, he was so connected in fundraising for Biden and all that whole DNC operation.
Well, I wouldn't call it connected.
You know, it's amazing if you give away $30 million, how many friends you can suddenly have.
Yeah.
Right.
So I don't call that connection.
I just call that, you know, check receipt.
Well, considering all the kind of misgivings that you've had about the advent of crypto, the way that they've done it, and that you don't trust it as a digital system, there's not a kind of a safety there for people's money.
It's pretty interesting.
When that hit, I immediately thought of you and your concerns about it, and all the people have been waving flags.
Around crypto for the past couple of years without really considering the kind of losses that could happen overnight.
So here's the issue.
When I talked about crypto, what I was talking about was the control grid and how it worked.
And I've never heard a crypto expert who understood the control grid and how it worked.
So they understood crypto, but they didn't understand the control grid and how it gets implemented, whether on the regulatory side, whether on the control side, whether on the surveillance side.
And there was just an extraordinary naivete about that.
There was also naivete about how you run an excellent custodian operation.
You know, running an excellent custodian operation is very, very difficult.
And when you do it in an experienced seasoned institution, you've got an institution that has, you know, a couple, I don't know, a couple decades to a couple centuries of history of every fraud you can think of.
You know what I mean?
They've had every fraud in the book.
You know, the encyclopedia frauds got run on them, right?
And they've survived.
So, you know, a lot of the people who started trying to do things like exchange just had no history and no depth in that area.
And it was obvious it was going to be trouble.
Right.
And then they started to hail it as a personal philosophy like, I'm free from fiat currency.
You know, this is the future.
Well, but I, you know, my heart goes out to them because that's what we all want.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And I do think if we had a.
A successful governance system on planet Earth, we would want to have cryptocurrencies.
You know, we would want to have digital systems that have integrity.
I would love to have digital systems that have integrity, but we don't.
We don't have any digital systems that have integrity.
In fact, they were created to institute control and suck us in with convenience.
And they've done a great job, right?
Yes.
So, right now, not forever, it doesn't have to be this way, but right now, digital equals no integrity.
Right.
Right.
This is where we've arrived.
This is where we've arrived.
And they've done the pump and dump on Bitcoin before.
They've moved it through the systems.
They've got the data feedback.
So now they want to consolidate that type of action into CBDC.
Well, here's the question you can take any cryptocurrency on the planet, whether it's Bitcoin or, I mean, take the full range, whether it's crypto that are deemed to be securities or crypto that are deemed to be commodity assets.
Whatever they're deemed to be under a regulatory structure, you know, the regulators can shut them down pretty quickly, whenever they want.
You know, if you look at the Australian regime, all they said was okay, everybody who provides an in and out has to go through the big banks and they have to be licensed.
Hello, you know, overnight, bam, they got complete control of every person and every bank account.
Bob, boom, like that.
Yeah.
Right.
So, for the regulators to assert control is a relatively easy.
Process.
There may be political fallout or whatever.
You know, as you can see, even just doing ops can destroy the liquidity, not destroy, but really harm the liquidity in the market.
Wait a minute, I'm going to go see what the Bitcoin price is today.
I mean, if you look at Bitcoin, if anybody should be immune to the FTX risks, it should be Bitcoin.
But look at how much Bitcoin has come off because, okay, so we're down to 16,000.
I mean, if you look at Bitcoin at the charts, I think it could go down another 50% before it finds a floor.
Wow.
Now, there's no way to me it goes to zero unless the regulators just say, okay, we're going to kill Bitcoin, which if I were them, I would never do.
It doesn't make sense.
But why doesn't it make sense?
Never waste political capital having a fight you don't need to have.
Okay.
You could marginalize Bitcoin without killing it.
So why bother?
Why bother to kill it?
Because if you really intentionally sat back and killed Bitcoin, you'd create a lot of enemies who are not without skills and power and ability.
A lot of people are already vested in it, a lot of forces.
Right.
So just let them trade.
I think just using it as a prototype is worth more than killing it.
I don't see why you would ever kill it.
And you can pump and dump it again.
Right.
So, why would you kill it?
It doesn't, I don't know.
Interesting.
It's very possible, you know, somebody can say, look, I just don't want to be bothered.
Kill all the prototypes and take them out.
You know, I want complete control, boot in the face.
I mean, once they get vaccine passports and CBDCs, they can do that.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
But then you're talking about a slavery system, and then they can do whatever they want.
But the way they'll take down crypto is not by taking down the crypto.
They'll take down the people involved in crypto.
You'll assert control of the in and out, and then you'll assert the control of all the people you need to assert control of to get control.
Wow.
That reminds me, there's a story connected around this whole FTX thing.
It happened a week prior.
I'm actually going to read you the guy's quote.
Brilliant young cryptocurrency pioneer named Nikolai Mashugian tweeted on October 28th that intelligence agencies were going to murder him and was found dead on a Puerto Rico beach hours later.
This is his quote.
CIA and Mossad and Pedo Elite are running some kind of sex trafficking entrapment blackmail ring out of Puerto Rico and the Caribbean islands.
That's what he wrote.
And then five hours later, he's found dead.
What, I mean, you talk about ops out in the open.
That's pretty out in the open.
You know, in 63, they killed the president.
Yeah.
The Secret Service slowed down.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah, it's been out in the open for a long time, I think.
That's interesting too with the 59th anniversary of that.
It's like the system that started there, which Peter Dale Scott calls it the first deep state revolt against the White House, the first one.
But that is an acceleration there that takes place.
And we've kind of been in an echo of that for generations here.
Right, right, right.
I don't know.
My whole life, the centralization just continues to.
Grow and grow and grow.
And yet, most of the people that I know or deal with, not all, but most, continue to think that their bread is buttered by cooperating.
And the thing that makes it possible for the system to grow is the cooperation.
In other words, yes, it's Mr. Global doing this, but the thing that makes the system work is millions of us doing the work and making it work.
And we have the power to stop.
Right.
Why don't we?
Living in Bizarro World00:10:09
Why do we continue to choose slavery over freedom?
Now, there are many, many different reasons.
I can explain this fact pattern, that fact.
We can get complex and go through all of it all day long.
But the reality is, we have the power to stop this, and we haven't exercised it so far.
And, you know, I continue to hear from someone, oh, well, it's okay if I bank at JPMorgan Chase.
I'm only one person.
My account isn't big and I shouldn't have to be bothered.
And have you seen the latest queue?
You know, because that's entertaining and gives you permission to stay on your couch because the spooky guys are going to fix it.
Right.
That whole op around that, the white hat type thing, has been very effective in putting people in a weird false positive mindset.
I don't know.
I mean, if you look at, you know, there's a certain amount of us who spend a lot of time online or reading online news because of what I do, I do.
But, you know, when I just got back from a trip across America, and most people are just too busy in the real world to be bothered with all of that horse, Bucky.
Do you know what I mean?
Which is good.
Yeah.
They're just like outside running through the woods and they don't have time for any of that.
I wanted to mention this because with the advent of the pandemic and all the things that they were pulling around that, you spent a good deal of time out of America.
When you came back in, how did it feel to you?
I mean, you said you had some vibrant experiences, but what was the vibe?
I had some friends who live in Europe who are Americans who went back and they were on the coasts and they came back absolutely freaked and they said, I might never go back again.
Wow.
You know, they walked right into Bizarro World.
I don't know if you know this.
On our news trends and sections that we do quarter with Dr. Farrell, two quarters ago, I said, That's it.
I've had it.
We're going to take all the stories that belong under Bizarro World, we're going to create a section called Bizarro World, and we're going to put them all there because.
You can't see what's really going on in the world because every area is overrun by these bizarro world stories that are detracting people from understanding what's really going on.
So we're just going to all put it into, you know, I have the picture of the ladies screaming for the Shriekameter, and, you know, they're all over there in bizarro world.
What's a good example for bizarro world story?
Oh, you know, like the drag queens, you know, teaching four year olds kind of stuff.
Well, I'll just go to bizarro world.
You want me to go to bizarro world?
Yeah, sure.
It's unbelievable, some of the stories.
Or, you know, like a guy who just invented a virtual reality headset that if you die in the game, it kills you.
I mean, it's very William Gibson, you know, neuromancer kind of thing.
When we had people like Huxley writing Brave New World in 1930, giving us this whole thing about Soma and the feelies and all that kind of thing, basically outlining virtual reality before it hit, those people, you know, that's 90 years later, but.
Orwell and Huxley, they're sort of neck and neck for that vision of the future.
And it seems uncannily accurate.
Right?
So here's, I'm just going to read you some.
Okay.
I'm just, so under, under, there, how many sections are there?
There are 10 bizarre world sections.
Okay.
First is transhumanism, the latest from Frankenstein's headless human embryos, synthetic embryo with brain and heart form without using eggs or sperm.
Biden signs executive order designed to unleash transhumanist hell on America.
Lawyers with chips implanted in their brain will be better, faster, and cheaper than robotics.
I'm just giving you a selection.
Russia says Ukraine has mutant soldiers created in a lab.
Here comes the U.S. Army's new super robo dog with sniper rifle.
Wow.
Okay, distraction.
The term minor attractive persons normalizes pedophilia.
John Rapoport, BBC now officially insane.
Uh, clinics, puberty blockers, Vanderbilt pediatric transgender clinic nukes website after Matt Walsh exposes big money maker.
You know, that some doctor got on and said the transgender surgery for children was big money maker, right?
Um, uh, uh, U.S. Senate ratifies Kalagi, uh, amendment handing more sovereignty to the United Nations.
Uh, oh god, Clinton on ESG.
Can you imagine?
Mind control, subliminal acoustic manipulation of nervous systems, nervous system manipulation by electromagnetic fields from monitors, edible landscape insects and their role in the transmission of parasitic diseases.
That one is really frightening.
Wow.
Wait till you see how sick.
Our annual wrap up is going to be a big presentation on synthetic food with a focus on lab grown meat.
Fantastic.
And it's totally bizarro world.
Anyway, so it just goes on and on.
That's just this quarter.
The last quarter was even more bizarre.
So, the idea of hit out with so many different things that an average person just won't know what to do.
They'll throw up their hands and say, Well, I have to believe the official reality.
I think it's so scary.
Throwing up all the bizarro world is so scary that it makes you just want to withdraw and go into your shell.
Or, you know, it's fine, I'll believe the official narrative if I can get.
Remember, here's the trick we all crave coherence.
And if you do things that make people incoherent, but promise them that if they do what you say, they can get back to a coherent world, then they'll buy into it.
Let's take one of those bizarro pieces, though, because it stands out to me in terms of the amount of effort behind it.
And that's the gender push to eliminate genders, to confuse that whole issue in a way that we've never seen in human history.
Well, but it's tracking.
If you look at what's happening with birth rates, you know, you've seen one set of our bizarro stories, not this quarter, but a couple of quarters ago, are babies who grow in incubation, you know.
In incubators, you know, so you have an incubator in your living room and your baby is growing in the incubator, not in you.
Yes.
And that plus the sterilization of women.
I mean, it looks to me with CRISPR technology that the leadership has decided they will decide what genes come into the world and not nature.
Right.
So, God will not decide what genes come into the world instead, and nature won't have anything to do with it.
Instead, it will be.
You know, the human resource director in the sky.
It's so far out.
I'll tell you why it's not far out.
If you look at the things that we know for a fact have been going on in this planet since World War II, you know, the only thing that has happened is we all agreed to take everything that was far out and pretend it wasn't happening.
Right.
Okay.
So it was in the realm of science fiction.
I don't know.
We took reality and moved it into a fictional space, right?
Because if you look at every weird thing that's gone on in this planet since World War II, you know, there's a science fiction movie about it.
There's a fictional movie or a fictional TV show about it.
But it's not allowed in normal land.
So it's just like Disney World.
There's this wonderful world with Minnie and Mickey, and then there's a world below that's engineering that world, right?
Right.
So there is nothing happening now that is stranger than the things that have gone on, particularly given all the people doing those strange things have never been held accountable or stopped.
So it would ultimately make sense that they would move out of control, right?
Because if you double down and double down and double down, at some point the multiplication leads to every place.
So I don't see anything going on on this planet.
You know, that in one shape, form, or another hasn't been going on for years and years and years.
So, would you say it's more out of the closet?
It's more out of the closet and it's infinitely more creative.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, you know, it's almost like they're trying to keep everybody busy with, you know, various things on a theme.
But I don't know.
You know, there's a lot of weird things been going on on this planet for a long, long time.
Yes.
And if you're someone like me, you know, you have to go back and forth among all these worlds that are pretending it's not really happening when it's clearly happening.
So, they figured out a human function there, which is in our psychology somehow, we're prone to kind of put the white noise out to things that we don't want to look at.
And they took advantage of that.
Is that reasonable?
Assessment.
I think it's more complicated than that.
But I think we believe that if you dwell on something, you attract it.
So, we want to keep the organized crime out and we want to keep the bizarre world out and we don't want to attract it.
I think that's a very healthy natural tendency.
There's a point, though, at which it's very important to know when to duck.
Trump's Military and CIA Plans00:11:20
And if your map is so insufficient and such a lie that you don't know when to duck, then you can't practice good risk management and then you're in real trouble.
And of course, that makes you easy to harvest, which is the goal.
Interesting.
We can go all the way back.
It's interesting because Eisenhower, everyone goes to this point that he made this military, you know, beware of the military industrial complex.
But he warned about the scientific dictatorship.
And so he was looking at it then and saying, oh, this is where it's going to go.
I'm in 1961.
And he's looking down the road into the 21st century and saying, this is how things are going to play out.
Right.
He saw, I mean, when you put the CIA and the intelligence agencies in the position to be the most powerful bank in the world and combine it with complete immunity from the law, you've got a completely out of control transnational organized crime infrastructure, and it's only going to get worse.
So, I mean, he knew.
And, you know, I've never known whether that story about.
You know, when the CIA refused to report to him about what was going on in Area 51.
So it was reported that he called them up and said, if you are not in my office tomorrow with a complete briefing of where, you know, everything that's going on, I'm going to fly to Colorado, get the, which army was it?
It was the, one of my cousins used to be in that army, I forget, but I'm going to get the third army or whatever it was and invade Area 51.
And being Eisenhower, he could do it.
He knew how to do it.
He knew where the levers were.
He could push the buttons and he could do it.
Yeah.
You know, and they were in his office the next day reporting.
But, you know, that was the problem Kennedy had.
He had never been a general, he didn't have the command and loyalty or knowledge of the military.
And, you know, the military had contempt for him.
You know, I don't know enough about his relationship with the military.
I think after the Cuban Missile Crisis, that may have been the case for some, but not all.
There had to be a tremendous number of generals going, thank God.
Yes.
Yeah.
So.
Absolutely.
It's very interesting because I was reading about a general he was going to put in as a CIA director two months before he died.
And that general went on to be a big anti Vietnam activist.
So it's kind of fascinating the moment.
What was his name?
General David Shoup.
It is quite interesting because when I went back into their relationship, I saw them together a lot in that last year of his life.
And there's a lot of pictures of them together.
Right.
And.
Interestingly enough, his granddaughter, this general's granddaughter, got in touch with me.
So wonderful.
Yeah.
So there's a lot of things there, but he was planning on becoming CIA director, this person.
So, there was going to be a shift there, and this might open up some of that story that's hanging out back there because there's a lot of strangeness also.
I wanted to mention this to you, and it's fitting that we're talking about Kennedy.
But so, there's this phone conversation that Judge Napolitano talks about where he was talking with President Trump when Trump was going to release the Kennedy records.
And then Napolitano, who was friends with him at the time, although that changed later, Gets him on the phone and says, Why aren't you releasing them?
And he said, I can't.
You wouldn't believe what's in there.
And then Napolitano said, Well, you promised you can't treat people like children.
This will work against you and all the rest of it.
And Trump said, None of that matters.
Andrew, if you were me, you couldn't let those records out.
Trust me.
You wouldn't believe it.
That's the way Trump put it across to him.
So those records have been kind of a political football for 60 years.
And it's been very odd.
Even a lot of the people who study it don't understand because they figure, Anything that was truly damaging would have come out a long time ago in any case.
So there's this idea that I've put together, which is that when RFK met the CIA director immediately after the assassination, that there's some almost like booby trap or mechanism in there that they won't let them out, and that Trump was referring to that in his conversation, which is on record because Napolitano has said it now in three interviews.
Right.
I don't know.
You know, my inclination is to trust Trump that.
That when he saw what was in it, he realized, I can't let this out.
In other words, that was a presidential decision by the president.
Right.
So he was agreeing with the CIA assessment that you couldn't let it out.
When you get to everything that's gone on with the Mar a Lago raid and the strangeness around that, we've never had a president, an ex president, raided before.
How do you see that?
I'm assuming that a decision has been made to make sure that Trump is not a viable candidate in 2024.
And that's what's up.
Yeah.
That's it.
So there's a Bilderberg get together.
They decide no way.
I would say it was a Bohemian Grove get together.
I mean, the Bilderbergers may have been in accord, but it was a Grove decision, is what it looks like to me.
Yeah.
And it's all hands on deck.
I just think there's been a decision to make him impotent as a candidate.
Yeah.
Now, the question is are they also trying to pull the country apart?
In other words, it looks to me like there is one or more factions who would like to see the U.S. break up in a way that they can blame it on the people.
In other words, it's not that we stole $21 trillion or $50 trillion and want to make sure you can't get it back.
It's like, oh, the people forced us.
Right.
Do you know what I mean?
So you won't blame it on the people.
And that, you know, that could be part of the divine, you know, the trying to get the divine conqueror to.
When was the Mar-a-Lago raid?
August, mid-August.
Right.
So the Grove would have ended in the first week of August.
So, okay.
I mean, it looks to me like a decision was made.
And now, interestingly enough, That was the same time, I bet, that they decided to bring down FTX.
They would use FTX to finance a rigged election, sort of buy everybody off in multiple ways, keep the economy going.
So you're trying to keep the economy going.
And so they're shipping money to Ukraine, wash it back.
And it could have been weapon sales, too, because clearly weapon sales are likely to have gone on.
Anyway, but you have this huge laundry operation for multiple purposes, of which it had to be much bigger than FTX.
It couldn't just be FTX.
But you decide you're going to bring FTX down right after the election because you don't need it anymore.
And you do it in a way you're going to throw it under control of the bankruptcy courts and the Department of Justice.
And what happens in August?
Tom Brady and his wife go to the Bahamas and come back looking very scared.
There's a cease and desist order that flies around at the same time.
And the question is why is Brady skipping training?
I think the first two games of the season or something.
I don't know.
I have to look into the detail of it.
But he's getting a divorce as well.
Well, is he getting a divorce or is that for asset protection?
Yeah, right.
Amazing.
They had him so wrapped in with that operation, he was doing commercials for it.
Right.
So, in theory, it depends on how they, but it sounds to me like he got a tip.
They needed that friendly face on top.
Once in a while, we see these things crack, like Enron did, that opened up.
Well, you know, to me, FTX just looks like Enron, too.
It does.
Yeah.
And I'll tell you why.
Enron, if I'm right about Enron, and this is a guess, I'm not sure, can't prove this, but Enron was laundering the money they were pulling out of DoD and HUD.
And you had the same people running the board as ran the big contract, the payment systems at DoD and HUD.
So, you know, the payment system guys are on both sides.
And, you know, it's sort of that money is coming through.
And then suddenly in August of Of 2001, skilling quits.
And I said, uh oh, they clued him in on what's next and he wanted to get out.
And then, of course, 9 11 happened and 9 11 basically destroyed all the records of everything that was being laundered out.
Right.
And, or that's what it appears.
And, you know, and then they put this guy in charge of cleaning up Enron, who just happens to be the guy they put in charge of cleaning up FTX.
And if you're laundering on behalf of the New York Fed and the Exchange Stabilization Fund, and basically, You know, the government, the federal government depository, you know, it's the same cast of characters, the same crew, the same institutions.
So to me, this is Enron, too.
Absolutely fascinating.
Right.
Because the money shipping over to Ukraine was coming out of the New York Fed as a depository for the US government, right?
Same as Enron, if I'm right.
Yeah.
Right.
Would you say that, so crypto, in a sense, the way that they operated it was a dream for the black operators, for the black budget?
Well, I think crypto, first and foremost, was simply a prototype for CBDCs.
Oh, wow.
Yes.
Right.
So, you know, here's the way we used to do it on Wall Street at the big firms.
Solomon Brothers was perfect.
You tell 10 different vice presidents to go do something, you wouldn't tell them that you told nine others to do the same thing.
And they'd all go try and do it, and they'd all come up with different ways of doing it.
And then they'd end up competing and fighting with each other.
And from it would emerge, it was a way of getting the best one fast.
So instead of asking one team and then firing them and getting a new team, you just ask 10 guys to do the same thing.
And that's the way you prototype.
Prototyping is very organic and very messy.
You just try lots of stuff and you know that most of them will fail, but in the process, you'll figure out what works.
So I think crypto, first and foremost, was a prototype for how you get to a digital control system.
Spiritual Energy Changing Reality00:10:13
Absolutely.
Right.
And that's not to say that in a well governed society, cryptos couldn't be great.
They could.
But we're not in a well governed society.
We're in a centrally controlled society that wants to exercise complete central control.
And in that situation, crypto is the most dangerous thing you can do.
Use cash.
Yes, cash is canned.
Well, a healthy system is part analog and part digital.
You have a healthy, you have excellent digital and you have excellent analog.
And the mistake we're making is we're allowing Mr. Global to take it 100% digital, at which point we're in a digital concentration camp.
We're toast.
If we allow that, we're toast, it's over.
And that's the central banking digital currency.
That's essentially the digital ID, the merger of those two.
That's it.
You're in a slavery system.
You're going to be in a digital concentration camp.
If they want to take your kids, they will.
No law.
There's no law.
It's a slavery system.
Right.
They'll do whatever they want.
They could even do it and morally grandstand that they're doing it for climate change, for example.
Oh, right.
Right.
Cannibalism, good for climate change.
Now, the only thing this comes down to is how effective.
So I'm looking for a new word to describe what I've been describing the phenomena of controlling people's minds and spirits, mind control or entrainment.
But if you really, I was just looking at a picture of somebody before and after.
You know, sort of when they were completely a prisoner of social media and their phone, they were in the smartphone trance versus, you know, they broke the addiction and just got away from the whole thing.
Radical, different, you know, much more time outdoors, much more time with people.
One person is literally like, it's like their whole aura has been sucked into the machine.
Right.
You know, I come back to William Gibson, who is an author, science fiction author I love.
In you know, in neuromancers in his books, people are jacking themselves into them.
He's seen so their bodies are still in the chair, but their mind and their intelligence and their reality, their understanding of themselves, they've literally jacked in on the internet.
And so, but when you look at a person who's broken that addiction, instead they have a powerful aura and they have you know, thousands of energetic or millions of energetic connections to all living beings around them, people, trees.
You know, and it's much more complex and much richer and much more powerful.
They have personal power.
You know, now, you know, in the other picture, they're not even quite there.
Their whole aura is disassociated and they're disconnected from life.
They're disassociated.
So there's some kind of energetic hacking going on, if you know what I mean.
And here's the question the question for each one of us is are we resonating with life and each other, or are we resonating with a machine?
Because as I went across America, what I discovered was I would literally see people who were no longer present in the world.
They were like on their phone like this, and they couldn't talk to another human being.
They were just gone.
They were in the machine.
They were literally jacked in.
And that system, the Mr. Global system, wants that.
They want them to vacate so that they can basically kind of.
Control them.
Well, but did they want everybody to be like that?
I mean, I don't know.
This is what I'm trying to kind of ask you from your own deduction because you've been looking at this and said for a long time, what it comes down to is who are the people who are controlling and why are they doing what they're doing?
Are you any closer to the answer on that?
Well, here's the thing because I'm looking at the scenario design for, you know, we do these scenarios every year for portfolio strategy.
And one axis is the rise in all cause mortality.
Which this year we're going to describe it as democide.
Oh, yeah.
Because it's not just the rise in all cause mortality.
There's the disability, there's the other things that make a democide, but it's the intentional destruction of humans.
And then the other access is going to be sovereignty, which is our ability to assert sovereignty.
But one of the most important issues in our ability to assert individual or tribal or national sovereignty.
Is this issue of are we going to allow our electromagnetic bodies to be harvested and controlled?
Because if we are, we will have no sovereignty.
In other words, I can't act to understand what's going on in the world and to take action to protect myself.
If my aura is in the machine, I'm completely, you know, I've lost me into the machine.
If I'm resonating with the machine, I'm going to do whatever the machine tells me to do.
I'm not going to do what is in my own self interest.
And I have to say, over the last three years, I've had.
A rise of dealing day to day to day in all sorts of capacities with people who continue to act outside their own best interest.
Amazing.
You know, when I worked on Wall Street, you could kind of depend on most people to act in their self interest.
Yeah.
Now, you know.
Well, this is quite fascinating what you're talking about with auras because if you look at crowd scenes and different things, say from the 80s and 90s, for example, there does seem to be a remarkable difference between those people and these people.
Right.
It's hard to define.
But it seems like they're more in the world and more in life.
And these other people.
They're more grounded and they have more personal strength and power.
They have energetic power.
They are energetically themselves, but they are connected.
They have thousands and thousands, if not millions, of connections energetically to all the living things.
They're in cahoots, they're giving and getting intelligence from all the living things around them.
It's what it looks like to me.
Incredible.
You've always been brave about entertaining what's behind all this.
And I really, I've always appreciated that about you because I know, you know, a lot of people in the world and in the things that you do would stay away from it.
But, well, I'm a Christian first and foremost.
And I absolutely believe the number one war going on is an interdimensional intelligence.
Yeah.
So, you know, the Bible calls it angels and demons, other people call it, you know, fifth dimension intelligence.
Mm hmm.
But I really think that we are operating, we are dealing with a spirit of evil that you have to describe and deal with spiritually.
So I think, first and foremost, this is a spiritual war.
It doesn't do justice just to talk about greed and avarice and war.
No, it's something else.
This is something more.
The you know, we have grown up in a world where we are hyper materialists, we are taught to be hyper materialists, and the only thing that's real, you know, is what we can see that's concrete.
But in fact, that's not the case.
If you look at most powerful technology today, it's invisible to the naked eye, number one.
But then there's a whole bunch going on spiritually and energetically, you know, that just If you were brought up to be a hyper materialist, as I was, the process of learning about what's going on in the world spiritually and energetically is quite baffling.
And the only way I have any understanding of all, I try and read the study, but the only way of understanding it is just experience.
I mean, I've seen things happen and be shifted energetically that are in complete defiance of all the laws of the material world.
It's like, it's impossible that that just happened, but it just happened.
So, you know, and I've seen human intention change material reality.
And that's, if you study William Tiller, that's what he says human intention changes material reality.
And it does.
I've seen it.
And, you know, if you look at the really great churches, that's what they teach.
Interesting.
They teach a philosophy of.
Of a commitment to divine wisdom and principles, and a commitment to faith that can, in fact, change material reality.
So it's a reference to something beyond the thin film of reality that we get to see.
It's a reference to how our world works.
Our world is not just material.
Yes.
Our world is not, you know, our world is many dimensions, we just operate in a few.
Have you ever, you know, you do so much scenario design for different things, business world, investment, and all the rest, social conditions.
Have you ever thought about doing something like that in relation to, you know, here's the scenario design, the Mr. Global thing, what's behind it?
It's aliens, it's interdimensional entities, it's, you know.
Invisible Weaponry and Alien Forces00:03:06
When I first started to delve into the governance model and who was really in charge, I mean, I grew up in a world where I had a lot of interaction with the people who were in charge, at least in America.
So, I kind of thought, okay, I know who's in charge.
You know, it's basically the Rockefellers and their syndicate and the money behind them.
And, you know, so I never worried a lot about who was really in charge.
It was like, you know, you just don't want to piss them off because it's dangerous, was sort of my take on things.
Anyway, but so when I first started to get into the governance, I signed up for Chris Milligan's listserv called the CIA Drug List Serve.
And it was started with who's dealing the drugs and goes up.
And there was this huge war when I first got on it.
And there was this group that said, it's all the Catholics.
And they were rabid about it.
And not, I mean, me, oof.
And then you had another group that said, it's the Masons.
And they were like, you know, equally disgusting.
And then you had the group that was like, no, it's the Jews.
And I kept saying, look, guys, you know, it's a big planet.
And like Philadelphia, you can't bring the drugs unless you have, you know, the ports and the docks and the truckers.
And that's the Catholics.
And you can't do it unless you have the law firms and the banks.
And that's the Masons.
And then you have these other groups over here.
That's the, you know, you can't do it with the Jewish syndicates.
And they work together.
Imagine that.
You know, they compete and they cooperate.
And, you know, but you could never get these three groups to like, Have an intelligent conversation to integrate.
Anyway, so I remember just being very frustrated with those folks.
Anyway, so we do a two hour, and who is Mr. Global?
And after it's over, I realized we were at such a high level of the control that we never got down to the masons, the juice.
And I thought, oh, they're going to be some ideologues.
They're going to be deeply disappointed with this.
The players on the ground, not the coaching.
Right.
And to me, you have a couple of unanswered questions that, if we could answer them, would tell us a lot.
One is how does interdimensional intelligence work and how does it interact with what's going on today?
So that's number one.
The second is what is the invisible weaponry?
Because I'm a great believer that we have a lot of powerful invisible weaponry that's a major driver.
I think one of the things that's causing these companies.
You know, you've got 190 plus countries that are doing what they were told in their, you know, against the best interests of themselves and their citizens.
Why are they doing that?
I think they are subject to weather warfare and invisible weaponry.
I think they've got a gun to their head.
And that's one of the reasons they're behaving the way they're behaving.
And they've got a gun to their head with weaponry that they can't tell their citizens about.
Right.
The Truth About Weather Warfare00:00:44
So, you know, so I love the Canadian leader who, you know, sort of intimated weather warfare was what had them.
Have you ever seen that one about the guy who says, I want to thank the people who sent the rain?
And everybody's going, What's he talking about?
Catherine, just outstanding.
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