Dark Journalist X-103 exposes the Cosmos Club as a secret network linking John Wesley Powell's 1878 Grand Canyon discoveries to eugenicists like David Starr Jordan and deep state operatives. Host Michael Snow argues current government disclosures are insincere distractions masking ancient ruins, airship technology, and extraterrestrial truths suppressed by the CIA and NSA. The episode connects figures from the Theosophical Society to modern control narratives, suggesting recent UFO hype prepares society for future lockdowns while urging independent research against unconstitutional intelligence agencies. [Automatically generated summary]
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Aspartame, Secrecy, and the Cosmos Club00:11:26
And we are live.
This is Dark Journalist.
What a fantastic crowd we have with us tonight already.
Of course, I am joined by the lovely Olivia.
Hi, everybody.
And Olivia, just off the charts with all the things that have happened just in a week.
And we're talking gigantic switches and changes, and everybody's changing sides all the time.
It's funny.
Funny games.
But we are seeing some remarkable things, and we've been, of course, focusing on all the UFO revelations that the government.
Has been pushing rather insincerely, in fact, in concert with the media and with other intelligence factions, trying to create a narrative, get us all into that swamp, and then say, here's a UFO threat, and we get to take over.
So we've been seeing a lot of this kind of action, but one of the key things that comes into our focus, especially after the last episode, is where did it come from?
How long has it been out there?
And we've been covering this in the X series for a while.
And yet, we've been opening up different doors.
One side, this door is the mystery school.
That door is the deep state.
This door is early apothecary development.
That door is X technology.
So, when we look at these different doors, we get kind of an idea of where we are in that hall of mirrors.
And tonight, we're going to go deep into the Cosmos Club.
In X Series 103, which is the Cosmos Club.
These are the UFO visionaries, and they have a secret technology network that we're going to get into tonight and really show those connections in a way that has not been shown before, especially in relation to the Cosmos Club.
I want to, you know, it's great to have everyone with us.
I want to remind you that we're going to, in the second half of the program, be taking questions, and you can ask your questions anytime during the show.
Probably ask them in all caps because Miss Olivia can keep track of them.
How are they doing out there?
Doing great.
I'm just trying to catch up.
Absolutely.
One of the things I think, and so many fantastic recollections of the Cosmos Club come in through email and messages of different people who've been there, whose parents have been there, or some relative was connected with it, or some congressperson was remembered.
And there's always these very fascinating anecdotes that are coming forward.
So I'm very happy to see that.
I'm getting a better feel for it the deeper we get into it.
Although I feel that one of the key things that they've been able to do, just like the Bilderberg group, is really hold that wall of secrecy with a second facade, which is here's our humanitarian action, here's our meeting on this, here's a lecture on that.
And then it provides them with the opportunity to get together as a group on the secrecy side and meet up with those key people.
And those key people aren't just military people, you've got military people, intelligence people, people from The geology world explores archaeologists and scientists, all sorts of different fields, literary people, theater people.
So, we're talking kind of a full spectrum combination of people, and it's all been able to be done through this group.
Now, one of the things I mentioned when I brought the Cosmos Club forward in the previous show was that I've long been looking at different groups who could be.
You know, the kind of symposium, the secret symposium around the UFO file.
And there have been a lot of really good contenders in this, but they were all too scientifically based.
And I always felt there has to be a broader handle on it because you'd have to bring in not just the scientific community, you'd have to be working with the intelligence community.
But the Cosmos Club really has opened up a new chapter in all of the research that we'll be doing.
And we're going to be taking a deep dive into the airship mystery tonight with the Cosmos Club through the figure of John Wesley Powell, the noted explorer and founder of the Cosmos Club, and his very, very interesting associates on all sides.
I do want to say that as we get through this, we're moving side by side with this kind of CIA disclosure that's going on and the media threat, UFO threat disclosure.
So these two things are very well balanced against each other because we want to see what's really behind that and the UFO secrecy in general.
Remember, these things have so many layers that the people chasing around after cooked up Tic Tac videos and that level of junk.
Are never going to get anywhere near the truth, but it will distract the greater portion of the population and throw the real research off considerably.
One of the things that we can do is take that deeper knowledge, that deeper understanding of, let's say, the deep state or the mystery school connections, and bring it in in such a way that we can really get a picture for what's happening.
And that snapshot can be so enlightening for us, especially at a time where they're really teasing this larger disclosure.
But remember, it's the CIA, and the CIA is well known for running operations that serve the deep state.
So that's not the kind of disclosure that we want.
The kind of disclosure that we're looking for is just the truth, unfiltered, and we're looking for it through normal channels of discussion and openness and information sharing.
One of the things that's really funny and ironic when we look at all of the so called disclosure around The UFO subject is that it's coming at a time when they are shutting down just about any type of conversation.
So, if you're on Facebook or you're on Twitter or YouTube, all of these alternate networks are popping up because, oh, you said this thing.
So now your friend is going to get a big pop up message from Facebook saying, you may know an extremist.
This person expressed an independent opinion.
This thing has been going around.
An independent opinion?
Exactly.
One of the things I think, too, that You know, when we're looking at this, we get into this extreme censorship where they actually censored the president of the United States, as we know, last October, November, and December during that very contested election.
And by the way, you can't talk about that either.
But don't worry, you can talk about UFOs and the alien threat.
It's all okay now because the CIA and the media says so.
If that doesn't make you uncomfortable, nothing will.
It's a very disturbing pattern where they're going to let you, they're going to create the parameters.
In which you could talk about this thing.
And, you know, we discussed this that at a certain point they might say, oh, you're a UFO denier, you know, you're a threat to the Commonwealth.
So we're looking at a lot of this.
We know that the Biden administration, in particular, with their push for domestic terror bills and NSA spying, they've been spying on their media enemies list.
And so that stuff's going to a bad place, let's face it, especially.
You know, the NSA, we don't actually give them enough attention on this show, but they're right up there neck and neck with the CIA for the Orwellian Awards.
And between that and the quarter of a million people employed by Homeland Security, it paints a picture of extreme censorship and centralized control, which the more it's exposed, certainly the weaker it becomes.
But their secrecy has been such a lock when it comes to the UFO file that getting this part, Opened up, having us seeing it clearly is going to be a major step forward.
And the Cosmos Club is going to help us do that.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
Wow.
Michael Snow says, looks like the CIA slash global Gestapo is tying up loose ends around the globe.
A lot of important people having accidents.
The other thing is, can we talk about Rumsfeld?
Everybody is mentioning his passing.
Well, it's very interesting.
What's funny about all that is, I was just doing a deep dive on some of his connections in the pharmaceutical industry, of course, which are well noted.
And I always recommend the work of Professor Peter Dell Scott if you want to understand the real gravity of the work that Rumsfeld did, who he was.
And of course, he was the youngest defense secretary in history.
I think he was 43 at the time, and the second oldest, actually.
But at the time, he was both the youngest and the oldest.
And the only one to ever serve non consecutively.
That is, he's there in 1976 as defense secretary and then comes back.
In 2001.
I mean, this is an unusual pattern, but it was to enact this whole continuity of government setup that he had created along with a number of individuals, including Oliver North, under the Reagan administration, even though he was a private citizen, you know, pharmaceutical CEO at the time, which is quite remarkable.
So, Rumsfeld and Cheney, get us close around the deep state.
You know, very often with the deep state, it's hard to see who's who because they're all kind of a projection of this other thing.
And very often you have to look through them in order to get to the real picture of who we're talking about here.
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Are you going to mention aspartame?
Everybody's like, Aspartame, Aspartame.
Well, he was part of Cereal.
And that whole organization, that corporation, was a.
That was the front, really, that developed aspartame.
So the fact that he got that through using his connections in the FDA and the government, and all of the incredible things that came out about aspartame and its cancer causing properties later, you know, he's really.
What's interesting is he was sort of a triple threat because he was involved with the pharmaceutical setup of our country and the world.
He was involved with the continuity of government secrecy, which is massive.
And then he's also involved with the incredible blunder of going into Iraq during the Iraq War to find weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist.
But guess what?
The CIA said that they did because George Tenet sat down and said, It's a slam dunk.
Waves of Disclosure and Public Distracts00:09:32
You have to go in there to get them.
Well, they weren't there.
So you went in there for nothing.
And, but you know, CIA said, well, it must have been bad intelligence, I guess.
And they had those comedy videos of George W. Bush looking around under his desk for weapons of mass destruction.
Those weapons must be somewhere.
Yeah, that's really a way to run a foreign policy.
So you can see that that is just one of the many instances where the Central Intelligence Agency has led us down a certain path in the interests of financiers and military contractors and that aspect of the deep state that they sit in.
So when they wander over to the UFO field, the first role should be don't deal with them.
That's number one.
Number two, look at everything that they say with a jaundiced eye.
And number three, when organizations that have over 100 years of CIA experience come out and say, we want to hug you and welcome you into our UFO disclosure company, you just say no, right?
So, unfortunately, a lot of people have been jumping into that.
But there's some waking up that's going on.
Unfortunately, the people who deal around the UFO file.
Who are the researchers, and that's really Leslie Kane, George Knapp, Dylan, that end of it, especially Leslie Kane, who, you know, this is an interesting thing, actually.
I was looking at this before we break into the Cosmos Club part.
I was thinking about the Grays.
You remember the Grays?
They were the stars of the alien world, all the way from Close Encounters.
It's because everyone who was anyone was seeing gray aliens.
They had big heads and big black eyes, and these were very compelling.
Abductions, and when people would see them, you know, they would land, they would get out, whatever it would happen to be, or they'd have deep psychological interactions with them.
With some people, they would get abducted in their cars, right?
The car would stop running, and then the Grays would come and get them and float them out.
These stories went all the way back to Betty and Barney Hill, and they were pretty spaced out then.
I think you could go from like Betty Hill, you know, that's 1961 case, you know, and you'd get a case maybe like.
Five years later, and then Travis Walton, you know, and these cases would filter through a little bit at a time so that by the time you got to communion and Whitley Streber and all those revelations and the grays really started to go mainstream, there was a foundation there, but it was built on really qualified cases, you know, hypnotists, psychiatrists, reporters, researchers, all these people had looked at it.
This thing that they've been running out with the like, you know, these beach balls are attacking our ships, and the tic tac is, you know, all this kind of stuff.
This is really trying to come out of the blue, and that's the hallmark, the signature, if you will, of a marketing operation.
And that's the really thing we need to avoid in all this because what they're selling is an alien threat.
And that UFO threat will graduate to an alien threat in no time.
And that's what they manage best.
You know, the 9 11 threat, the COVID threat threat, threat, threat, oh, that means we get emergency powers.
That means your constitutional rights get suspended.
That means the Great Reset.
Is there whether you like it or not?
And by the way, the climate emergency also gives us emergency powers.
So there's a threat there too.
Shucks, I guess you're just out of luck.
All these threats, and we're the only ones who can help you.
So that's the kind of thing that we need to deflate before it gets started in earnest.
But I wanted to mention this because they put Leslie Kane out there as such a key front woman for this whole thing.
And now she's writing a show.
This really got me.
It's on HBO Max.
Okay.
But she's writing a show about Lou, the courageous Lou Elizondo.
And his courageous efforts to get the UFO file out.
One of the things they always drop with her bio, they always leave it out, is that she was with Bud Hopkins for 10 years.
They were a romantic partnership.
And of course, Bud was the key UFO abductions person.
He's the one who did the hypnotic regressions.
He researched the cases.
He did a lot and he worked a lot with that Gray's hypothesis and he worked with those cases.
That's where he was coming from, the context.
But no, suddenly Bud is kind of a dirty word.
And when they go through all of Leslie Kane's exploits, they won't mention anything about good old Bud.
I know.
When was the last time you heard anything about Bud Hawkins?
Anybody?
It's disturbing.
He's been memory holed.
Yes.
Just amazing.
There's no question about it.
He did really good work, including Intruders.
He did some good books.
And he's the one who got John Mack involved in the entire field, who was the Harvard psychologist who really put his reputation on the line to get this whole thing up to another level and wrote the book Abductions there in the late 90s.
To which Time magazine said, he should be thrown out of Harvard.
This is the way that they used to treat the UFO file before they realized, ah, there's something in it for us.
There's defense dollars, there's control of the population, there's maybe a phony alien virus.
This looks good.
So now they love it.
These guys love the UFO file.
And that's just obvious.
I mean, it's not even something that I'm saying, it's just look in any website, the New York Times, even the Washington Post.
These guys love talking about UFOs all of a sudden.
But they won't talk about grays and they won't talk about Hopkins and that ilk.
They just want to talk about tic tacs and isn't Tom DeLong great and isn't Elizondo such a champion of disclosure and Marco Rubio really wants answers on them.
That's where they're coming.
He's demanding answers.
Dubio Rubio.
Down there in the hot zone.
We know all about that.
Well, Dr. Farrell has his number.
Here's one.
That is Betty Hill's encounter.
These grays, interestingly enough, Had eyes.
Those are pretty human looking eyes.
And interestingly enough, I always thought that her sculpture was dramatic.
This is the person that she met there on that ship.
And I think it gives us a real snapshot again of these grays.
Let's not forget the original gray that was showing up in all these reports.
And you wonder, whatever happened to the grays?
Well, there was something, there was some market research test in all this, and they said, you know, we can't do it.
Somehow we can't.
You know, the UFO threat has to get out there without the graves.
We have to do it some other way.
Those real cases, you know, the people who were abducted and all that, don't want to talk about that.
But I think anything that they don't want to talk about, we naturally do want to talk about.
And that brings me to Carl Sagan, who, although a UFO skeptic in public, let's face it, behind the scenes working in the Cosmos Club, he was there with the people who knew the most about it.
But an interesting thing that he included in his book called The Demon Haunted World.
Was this incredible quote?
And this is it here.
I'm going to read it for you.
One of the saddest lessons of history is this if we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle.
We're no longer interested in finding out the truth.
The bamboozle has captured us.
It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken.
Once you give a charlatan power over you, You almost never get it back.
Wow.
That's Sagan.
I'll tell you, he hits it right on the head.
And this is somebody who worked inside those power circles, understood them quite well.
And that's why they try to remove him actually from the Cosmos Club because he wanted to open it up to people like J. Allen Hynek.
Inside the Cosmos Club, I've deduced that they didn't trust that type of UFO expert coming in because real UFO meetings were taking place in there.
And they were thinking, this guy rejected his role in Project Blue Book ultimately.
He'll come in here and he'll spill all this.
And they were all double agents because when they would come out to the public, people like Donald Menzel and these other UFO skeptics.
They would give the public the it's swamp gas and all that kind of thing.
But in truth, as we found out later through people like Stanton, the late Stanton Friedman, they were in fact deployed to work very, very hard finding out all about the UFO file.
And they believed in it because they had seen the evidence for it.
And they erected a wall of secrecy behind which they could place all of that advanced technology, advanced knowledge.
And there became a huge deficit between what those insiders knew.
And what the general public knew.
So there were waves of disclosure in the public because they sensed this.
The 60s and the 70s certainly had close encounters, I mentioned.
In the 80s, ET, President Reagan bringing it up at the UN, these types of things.
Very compelling.
There's a lot of UFO incidents around Ronald Reagan, in fact.
Financial Coup d'Etat and Hidden Knowledge00:03:16
And then by the time you get to the 90s, you've got MAC, you've got a whole push for disclosure.
The culture is very adapted to it.
Popular shows.
You have all kinds of things about the Grace.
This thing looks like it's just about to happen.
And you get 9 11 instead.
And that type of continuity of government takeover, which we're still living under those emergency rules, takes us into where we are now.
And it was just a dark decade there to start that decade off.
And they just kept it going.
So what they did when they got into the Obama years was he was.
He basically, President Obama became sort of like the clerk for the bankers.
So they switched a lot of focus there from the military takeovers to the consolidation of the missing money.
And so we got the financial coup d'etat and these types of things.
And then they needed a figure that could kind of distract the public.
And that was Obama, who largely served as a clerk for the bankers, which as a Democrat is an interesting thing to do because the Democrats pre Clinton weren't really known for being.
That's tight with the bankers.
So, somewhere that relationship changed with Wall Street and the Democrats because they had already, you know, they had often favored the Republicans.
And so we sort of knew those two different power bases quite differently.
Now, the completely captured party is the Democratic Party and most of the Republican Party.
With little outliers like the Libertarians in between, there may be some independent moves among groups that favor a more Democratic approach.
But the regular Democratic Party is completely captured by the neoliberals who are very warlike, incredibly centralizing, and pose a tremendous threat moving forward, I think, to any kind of healthy society.
And it's becoming obvious.
I mean, you're seeing it in all these different, you know, whether it's Joe Rogan or whoever it is, they realize regardless of what I'm doing, I might have a gigantic podcast or whatever, but these people are trying to censor my ability to talk about anything.
You know, you mentioned ivermectin and you're out.
You know, it's like Jehovah in the early versions of the Bible.
You know, you pick up sticks on Saturday and it's all over and get ready to be stoned.
So that's the point that they're at.
They want to control and keep you in one lane of thinking.
And that's their lane.
It's the kind of false Twitter reality and that whole thing.
And Twitter, I think, is a really good example because they were the ones that were used to come forward and really, you know, they censored the New York Post, which is one of the oldest newspapers in America.
They censored the president of the United States who controlled the nuclear arsenal.
Think about that.
So they were the canary in the cold mine.
And, you know, I think exposing that whole kind of social media control has to be the big thing in the lead up to the 2022 elections.
So that's really where we're at with this.
And that brings us to the secrecy.
Where does the secrecy come from?
How did it get established on such a deep level?
John Wesley Powell's Extraordinary Explorations00:05:34
We're going to go back centuries or about 150 years to really find the answer and bring that through.
We're going to swing wildly.
Wait, how long ago?
At least 1870.
Okay.
At least 1870.
And we're going to find some figures in history doing things that we didn't know that they had done.
And we're going to put some of those things on the record for the very first time here tonight.
It's great to be here with everyone.
You're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
This is X Series 103.
And we are looking at the Cosmos Club.
This is part two of our Cosmos Club expose, or I guess expose.
We're going to be taking your questions in the second half of the program.
In the first half, we looked at the Cosmos Club through the figure of CIA agent and official.
And photography expert Arthur Lundahl.
And Lundahl is very fascinating because he is a person who briefed presidents on the UFO file.
And he was the founder of MPIC, which is the photography lab that does intelligence analysis for all our satellites and all the rest.
His history is stranger still.
And if you go further back, you'll find that he actually started out as a park ranger, which.
Is an interesting link if you really start to get the feel of the Cosmos Club, of which he was a very prominent member.
His position in the Cosmos Club was one of the first things that got me looking deeper at them because I knew about his knowledge of the UFO file, looking at his connections and where he was affiliated with openly.
And the fact that he was sitting there with Menzel and Sagan and people of this ilk made me wonder.
And when we go back really deeply into that, Group that started the Cosmos Club, we get John Wesley Powell.
And you say to yourself, this is an incredible explorer, somebody who got us the Colorado River Explorations, Wyoming, the Grand Canyon.
He's so well known and he did such great work in that regard.
However, he's so hailed in his own era, and presidents need to be a part of his Cosmos Club, which again is kind of an unusual name for a group in the 1870s.
And it is 1878 in which it was founded.
Along with his own.
Deep interest in Native American shamanism, which would bring him to, for example, closely associate with the Paiute Indians and Wavoka, who is the mystic among the Paiutes who created the ghost dance with his fascinating visions.
So we're looking at somebody who can go on this track of metaphysics, the psychic world, the astral plane side, the Indian, American Indian, Native American.
First Nation spirituality.
This is somebody who is also technologically connected and geologically an expert.
So we've got somebody in Powell who forms this group, the Cosmos Club, and then immediately, just a few years later, forms the National Geographic Society.
33 members, founding in 1888.
Alexander Graham Bell is a member of the Cosmos Club and National Geographic.
Alexander Graham Bell is going to figure very prominently in this.
But there's almost something remarkable about John Wesley Powell that can't be missed, which is his explorations, given his resources, are extraordinary.
And what was it that he was finding in all of these different expeditions that he was creating?
And sometimes they were sponsored by the government, but you know, not at first.
And where did those come from?
Something remarkable must have happened during those expeditions because by the time he's finished, he is hailed as a hero and everybody wants to party with John Wesley Punnell.
Now, I'm going to look at a few reasons why this must be the case by looking at one of his co-founders, who the people who have looked at airship mysteries might be familiar with his name and some of the things that have come up.
And then we're going to look at some of the stranger things found in the Grand Canyon and some of the stories that have circulated about ancient ruins in the Grand Canyon and how much this is related directly to Powell.
The airship mystery and the ancient findings related directly to John Wesley Powell.
I'm going to show you that tonight as we get deeper into this fascinating founder of the group, the Cosmos Club, which started again in 1878.
And continues on to this day with their very, very interesting, I have to say, Illuminati style, American dollar, American Revolution style Illuminati, the All Sing Eye in there.
We're going to see these wings around the globe again shortly.
I'm going to show you them in relation to an aerial group very early on that was dealing before the Wright brothers even.
NASA, Extraterrestrial Intelligence, and Secrets00:15:22
So.
Can I interrupt you for a sec?
Yes.
Jimmy Parker said the National Geographic is now a part of Disney.
No, really.
Yeah, well, that's.
For reals.
Yeah, we have to think of the power of Disney at this point.
It's just beyond the beyond.
Their control of news and the production of news shows, they're taking over things like the Star Wars franchise, for example.
I mean, incredible clout.
And, you know, I was looking into this, of course, we had 92 different news organizations vying for the top position in the early 90s.
By the time you get to 2021, we have six.
And people have been warning about that consolidation, but now we're really seeing the warning.
They want everything to be unithought.
And when we get to that, you know, thought crime isn't far behind.
I mean, they're already getting to these levels.
And as we know with the Spielberg movie, what was that movie where Tom Cruise could see into the future with these psychics and it was like a pre crime thing?
Oh, Minority Report.
Minority Report.
That's the one.
We're heading directly there.
That was an early tip off by somebody inside.
The whole process.
So, what does that tell us?
Well, the next thing they'll come out with is oh, we've also discovered this incredible psychic technology.
Here's UFOs, here's psychic stuff.
Join the CIA for a consciousness cruise.
You know, you don't want your astral body invaded by that, that's for sure.
So, yeah, we've got, you know, that's kind of like hanging out with a serial killer for sensitivity training.
It's not a good idea.
But I do feel like we're looking at a real kind of Hail Mary pass on the part of the establishment in terms of the timing.
I think that they've been happy to move these things along quite.
Kind of steadily over time, but now I think they're really swinging for the fences.
Yes.
Zapp Robinson wants to take a look at the Cosmos.
What is it called again?
The Cosmos Club's logo again.
Ah, yeah, well, it is something.
It is something.
And what I think we see going on there is the globe has wings, there's some clouds below, there's, of course, these many stars, six right under the eye.
There's two on the side.
And again, if you look deeply and you're kind of getting the impression of this, they've kept that logo steady the whole time.
They actually haven't changed it, which is kind of surprising in some ways.
I do feel that Powell, also with his spiritual knowledge, is coming from a different place in creating it.
That is, I think he's coming from an esoteric place and I think there's a mystery school involvement.
However, I think the Cosmos Club becomes a very distorted.
With the political left hand path groups.
And by the time you get to like the 40s and 50s, because of World War II, the CIA has completely taken over.
And that's where I think we see this going on.
But I think the secrecy was there long.
Even some of the inventions of Alexander Graham Bell that they kept inside the Cosmos Club because the public wasn't ready become part of this story.
So let's break into some of that here.
Of course, we mentioned in the last episode Donald Menzel, the Harvard astronomer.
Who we covered on this program, who was trying to offer himself and his services to JFK as sort of a UFO file intermediary.
This is somebody who I think we need to take a very close look at, and he was a real power broker inside the Cosmos Club, as I said, trying to boot figures like Sagan and make sure that figures like Heineck just never got anywhere near the place.
We also have in this whole mix the Fairchilds.
Which are going to become very important because that leads us to von Braun.
But there's a big background there with this.
So let's see how we can get into this.
I want to start off on the Cosmos UFO track to 1965.
Let's dial in our clocks to 1965.
And someone named Lambros Kalamahos, who was an expert Greek cryptographer and someone who really did a lot for the intelligence community by recruiting international.
Cryptographers and those who are well skilled in steganography, so that they could keep secrets during a cold and a hot war.
This is a paper that was delivered and a speech that was given in August 1965 at the Cosmos Club by Lambrose.
And this is what he has to say.
The title of it is Communication with Extraterrestrial Intelligence.
This is 1965.
Quote We are not alone in the universe.
A few years ago, this notion seemed far fetched.
Today, the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence is taken for granted by most scientists.
Even the staid National Academy of Sciences has gone on record that contact with other civilizations is no longer something beyond our dreams, but a natural event in the history of mankind that will perhaps occur in the lifetime of many of us.
This is somebody who worked for the CIA and the NSA.
Sir Bernard Lovell, one of the world's leading radio astronomers, has calculated that even allowing for a margin of error, there is 5,000%.
Chance that there must be in our galaxy about 100 million stars that have planets of the right chemistry, dimensions, and temperature to support organic evolution.
If we consider that our own galaxy, the Milky Way, is but one of at least a billion other galaxies similar to ours in the observable universe, the number of stars that could support some form of life is, to reach for a word, astronomical.
So he's totally on board with it.
He's saying this is just a fact.
At this point, he's speaking from his own knowledge base, but he's also a member of the NSA.
Let's think about that.
The nearest neighbor, where is everybody?
The nearest neighbor to our solar system is Alpha Centauri, only 4.3 light years away.
But according to Dr. Huang of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, or NASA, in planetary systems, it's probably too young for the emergence of life.
Two other heavenly bodies, Tau Ceti and Epsilon Eridani, about 11 light years away, are stronger contenders for harboring life.
And so he goes through these various possibilities.
And then he comes to a very interesting list of the possible dangers involved and what we need to look for.
Self destruction as a result of thermonuclear catastrophe or some other discovery which may have unpredictable and uncontrollable consequences.
Genetic danger.
He doesn't go very far with that.
Does he mean interbreeding with aliens would be dangerous?
Overproduction of information.
Overproduction of information.
Restricted capacity of the individual's brain, which can lead to excessive specialization with consequent dangers of degeneration.
And finally, a crisis precipitated by the creation of artificially intelligent beings.
So he's warning about AI.
He's warning about associating with these aliens out there.
And he's also warning about genetic dangers and overproduction of information.
That is, when we interact with this other civilization, we'll become overwhelmed with what we can do.
I find the paper, which is, again, communication with extraterrestrial intelligence, and which you can find out there.
Actually, it's listed still on the NSA website and on the Cosmos Club.
They still keep it as one of their papers.
One of the interesting things he did in there too is he showed the different signals that we were sending out there into space.
And he also loaded up this speech with these various codes that we were sending out there.
The reason I find all that interesting is if we were to take it from a point of view that he believed all this, we'd have to say, why is he saying it publicly?
Because even though it's at the Cosmos Club, it leaked out, obviously.
But as an NSA person, it would seem like a complete third rail.
Well, it's kind of a trial balloon, also, in some ways, it's to see how these people would respond to it as well.
Would there be some academic interest?
During the 60s, they had these different things where they were like, let's look at what the public would do if they knew the ET reality was real.
So they got on board with this at a certain point.
But what it leads me to believe is that inside the NSA and these places like the Cosmos Club, it's very well known that there are, in fact, off world civilizations and that the UFO factor is completely real.
It's like second nature to them.
So these types of things, I think, are proof of that.
In fact, now.
The CIA presence at the Cosmos Club.
If you go back to the founding of the CIA, you're going to find all the directors, Dulles and all the rest, spending the majority, well, I wouldn't say the majority of their time, but their public meetings in Washington, a great deal of them are taken up at the Cosmos Club.
Their secret meetings, probably far more so.
But here was an interesting one that floated out there.
Since I mentioned Obama, let's look at his CIA director.
And the name of the article written.
In the Washington Post, is former CIA director David Petraeus living at the Cosmos Club?
This is the level at which the CIA presence at the Cosmos Club is known.
These people actually, by the way, have the ability to live there.
They have all these suites set up, it's not just meeting rooms and all the rest.
You could actually live at the Cosmos Club.
And if we go back far enough in time, we'll find some very interesting people living there, like the Wright brothers.
That's kind of interesting.
We're also going to find in relation to the Cosmos Club that some of the earliest, you know, kind of moves towards space were all conducted by research there at the Cosmos Club.
For example, NASA's first headquarters was the Cosmos Club.
Wait, say that again?
That's NASA, actually.
Their first headquarters was there.
How long were they there?
Do you know?
Well, when were they there?
It goes in that period.
And so that they left maybe by 61 or 62.
But just the fact that they were there and that's where their essential kind of secret development took place after Sputnik is quite remarkable.
Okay, I told you we're going to fly through years at great next speed.
Are you ready?
1920.
Here's an article in the New York Times Cosmos Club full of scientists.
The Cosmos Club occupies the old residence of Dolly Madison with some abilities.
Additions thereto, which have been recently purchased.
All the scientists in the government's employment are members of the Cosmos Club, and nearly every scientist of note in America who lives at a distance from Washington is a non resident member.
The lectures which frequently are given at the club have an appeal for a scientist, but like those given at the Army and Navy Club, they have comparatively little appeal for the layman because they are strictly scientific.
And Latin terms fly about like swallows just before migration time.
There are women's clubs in Washington, and to many of them, Mrs. Harding has been called to membership.
She takes an active part in the work of Congressional Club of Women and so on.
So, in the 20s, it's well known that the bulk of the scientists there, anybody who's anybody who's a scientist, is at the Cosmos Club.
Earlier, we showed that Woodrow Wilson, for example, was a member.
President McKinley.
So, even by this early period, they've really exploded and they've become a central haven.
And the question becomes over and over again what is it that makes it really the central group, especially on the science side?
And we go back to John Wesley Powell again.
What was it that he found out there in the Grand Canyon?
Which takes us to a very, very interesting story, which maybe some of you have heard about Egyptian ruins there in the Grand Canyon.
Now, this story has had uneven coverage, but there's no question.
And I'm going to actually cite these as we go along.
Powell himself would name many of the different places that he would find there in the Grand Canyon, things like Osiris Temple, Isis Temple, Gateway of Horus.
He's using a lot of Egyptian imagery for somebody who is just doing an American research project for geological expedition purposes.
It doesn't quite add up, does it?
The Osiris Temple.
I mean, that's a really good one.
You have to admit.
Go ahead.
Sorry, there's a great question.
Lance Steele wants to know any known connection between the Cosmos Club and the Sonora Aero Club?
Yes.
Are we getting into that tonight?
Yes, indeed.
Okay.
We're also going to find the airship mystery comes right into the heart of the Cosmos Club.
And in fact, it's probably where it was spawned ultimately.
Let's take a little bit of a look at this Grand Canyon.
Aspect.
As the story goes, there's this remarkable set of articles that come out in Arizona in 1909.
And they're right there in the regular paper, just like all the regular news.
And it's all about this archaeological team, one from the Smithsonian, who have come in and are doing these excavations there in the Grand Canyon and find all these incredible Egyptian artifacts.
So, I mentioned Powell there.
I'm just going to give you a couple of the names, the actual names, before we get to that article.
Ruins in the Grand Canyon and Cover-Ups00:05:28
Originally, the Smithsonian shows no records of such an expedition, nor that they participated in any dig of an underground city in the Grand Canyon.
This is the official story by the Smithsonian.
However, the Smithsonian has sent many expeditions to explore the Native American ruins throughout the Southwest and the Grand Canyon.
It seems unlikely that ruins throughout the Southwest and the Grand Canyon It seems unlikely that an institution devoted to learning and understanding history would hide such a find.
And yet, if Middle Eastern or Asian cultures did make their way to North America around 4,000 years or so ago, it would certainly turn the history of our world upside down.
This is a key point.
It's also interesting that so many features in the park bear Egyptian names Tower of Set.
These are the names that Powell gave these different geological features.
Tower of Set, Tower of Ra.
Horus Temple, Osiris Temple, Isis Temple, as well as the places in Haunted Canyon with names like Cheops Pyramid, Buddha Cloister, Manu Temple.
Wow.
In fact, the area where the hidden city is supposedly located is actually off limits to the public on government land.
Kincaid, who is the companion to the professor, Professor Jordan, who's doing this in the article, He has this to say about the location back there in 1909.
Here we go.
Quote Some 42 miles up the river from the El Tovar Crystal Canyon, I saw on the east wall stains in the sedimentary formation about 2,000 feet above the riverbed.
There was no trail at this point, but I finally reached it with great difficulty above a shelf which hid it from view from the river.
It was the mouth of the cave.
Now, Powell encountered a cave system himself, which is probably my guess.
This entire expedition was deeply involved trying to open up the ruins that Powell had found originally, which made him such a hero on that first pass, which didn't make a whole lot of sense.
According to one Hopi Indian legend, their ancestors once lived underground in the Grand Canyon until the people of One Heart and the people of Two Hearts began to fight.
The chief of the One Heart people caused a tree to grow and pierce the roof of the cavern.
The One Heart people sent a messenger to the temple of the sun.
Asking for a blessing of peace, goodwill, and rain, but the messenger never returned.
Legend says that the messenger will return someday, and the Hopi ancestral lands and dwellings will be returned to them.
The original article, which is bona fide, it's not a hoax.
Certainly, the article ran in 1909 in April.
There are many examples of it online, and it's been verified.
For a long time, they try to throw people off with this case and say, The Smithsonian in particular said we never did those types of expeditions, which was a lie, and that we never had a Professor Jordan doing it on our behalf, which also turned out to be not true.
And we're going to get into how they found it.
So now here's an article that came up.
And when we get into this, this is from Newswire.
It originally ran in 2014.
Smithsonian's enigmatic Professor Jordan linked to 1909 Arizona newspaper article.
Identified.
Some people might know Greg Little actually.
He's somebody who does a lot of the kind of Atlantean type stuff for the Edgar Cayce Institute.
And something that he said, which is I think worth taking a look at, is that he knew that in April 1991 at the meeting of the Society for American Archaeological.
Archaeology, it included a presentation on the discovery of a totally unique complex of underground catacombs found at a ruined site in Arizona.
The Arizona Daily Sun published a long article on the discovery on April 27, 1991.
So we're seeing and we're getting into this whole piece where, in fact, the story turns out to be 100% true, which I find interesting.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
We are going here deep in episode 103 on the Cosmos Club and John Wesley Powell and what he actually found there in the Grand Canyon.
In the second half of the broadcast, we're going to be taking your questions, which Miss Olivia is going to be putting together.
You can ask them in caps, it might make it easier to find them.
And how are we doing out there?
Good.
Gerald King says, Two Hearts in Navajo is Skinwalker.
Ah, now that brings us into interesting territory.
It might explain this kind of close Paiute relationship with Powell and his deep interest.
Professor Jordan: Eugenics and Ichthyology00:07:52
Like, what exactly did he find, or what exactly did he encounter during all this?
A couple of quick things about who this individual, Professor Jordan, was are going to quite sort of enlighten us around this whole thing.
One thing I can tell you that comes up over and over again, whether it's the beginning of the Cosmos Club or getting into the figures who really have a large role in it, along with the National Geographic Society, is a large scale eugenics fascination, which, as we know, became very explosive by the time we got to the 1920s, and that's where you got the whole.
Nazi thing.
But in relation to it in America, it had become just kind of a regular thing where they had these societies meet about how can we make the genes better?
How can we make the gene pool better?
And it was a very different type of concern that these people who are on the inside, on the scientific side, started to become obsessed with.
Now, although we went through the horrors of the Holocaust and all these things and the Mengele and all these things came to light, there's still a very strong Theme of eugenics that goes through the scientific community.
And you will find it in all of the stories about designer genes, designer babies, and things of this nature.
And also the fascination of the globalists around, for example, what they can do with the injections and the amount of people that they should maintain on the planet being under a million and all this kind of thing.
So this is basically where they're coming from.
And to get a snapshot of how many of them in that original setup.
Were out and out eugenicists, I think, gives us a handle on it.
And also to find out that some of the original people, the kind of Darwinist eugenics stuff, they thought that they were following this revolutionary trend like, hey, we're going to make humanity better by doing this.
And then they get into the Frankenstein era of the whole thing.
So we have to kind of balance that out.
We can just imagine, and we've seen this a lot, in particular with Professor Jordan now, there's a big woke thing to eliminate him and his eugenics.
Background from everything that he did when he became the president of Stanford.
And I can appreciate it.
However, I think it's also an effort to eliminate some very uncomfortable connections that he had.
So let's take a look at this individual now.
This is Professor Jordan, who went out there into the Grand Canyon and found these Egyptian ruins.
And we're going to read something along the lines of what he found.
But he himself and his connections are extraordinary.
And he will become such a key figure in the setup.
Of Silicon Valley and the incredible tech takeover, and Terman and IQ tests, and all these types of things, that he becomes somebody I think who becomes a crucial figure for us to look at to get any real angle on what's happening.
His original book had something very interesting in the title, and along with this kind of very esoteric imagery, it says, All is fish that comes to my net.
All is fish that comes to my net.
It looks almost like an incantation, you know, sort of like these things are coming my way.
Big money's coming my way.
Yeah, it's like a mantra.
It is.
A little bit about David Starr Jordan, Professor Jordan, in the Arizona Gazette story.
He was a leading eugenicist, educator, and a peace activist.
Put that one together.
He was president of Indiana University and then Stanford University, where I think he really makes his mark.
Jordan was born in Gainesville, New York, as many of these figures are.
Not Gainesville, but upstate New York, that whole.
New York really seems to be the center of power in that period, with California just coming up.
He studied at Cornell University, was part of some fraternities.
He served as the director of the Sierra Club from 1892 to 1903.
Over and over again, National Geographic, the Sierra Club, these things come up around the Cosmos Club members.
In fact, Most of the Cosmos Club, you know, those presidents of National Geographic and the Sierra Club had been part of the Cosmos Club.
Although well regarded for his peace activism, Jordan was best known for being a peace activist and an ichthyologist.
There we go.
He argued that war was detrimental to the human species because it removed the strongest organisms from the gene pool.
Jordan was president at the World Peace Foundation from 1910 to 1914.
This is fascinating.
So, before we get into World War I, here we have this eugenicist, president of the World Peace Foundation.
This is somebody who also studied salmon and he studied all kinds of sea wildlife.
Now, he was an expert witness for the defense at the Scopes trial that same year.
He was a listed member of the Bohemian Club at Bohemian Grove in San Francisco.
He served on the initial board of trustees of the Human Betterment Foundation.
I'm going to tell you a little weird sideshow about this, which is that foundation would become the root of recruiting people into Caltech because they wanted the best and the brightest.
And that's where the whole Jack Parsons piece comes out in Caltech.
But one of the interesting people that we get in that whole group is George Hodell.
And we're going to be covering Hodel more in an upcoming episode.
But I want to say this in relation to him now.
He is the doctor who is associated with the Black Dahlia case.
He was the prime suspect in that murder case of that young actress there in that period.
So when we look at some of the eugenicist action and we see a lot of these very advanced medical types, we have to also be looking at this other piece, which is there's a kind of Sadism that runs through this.
And I wanted to point out right off the bat Hodel because he's going to become a key player as we get deeper and deeper into these things.
So I think that in terms of his background, that kind of gives us an idea.
But what's missing?
What's missing when we're looking at Jordan?
Because how does he get into this position where he goes down and he finds these Egyptian ruins in the Grand Canyon?
And is that the original Powell secret?
Is that what we're looking at here?
Did Powell find, in fact, an ancient Egyptian city in those caves?
And did that mean that the Egyptians had come over here to America, which blows up the entire early American story?
Well, hold on, let me throw something at you.
Yes.
Okay, so Kantiki man wanted to know David Starr Jordan, okay, with this, we don't know how to pronounce this, ichthyologist.
Okay.
Any connection with pneumo related findings?
Interesting.
That's a good question.
Well, there's a big piece, actually, as we open up more on his biography here.
What he's really a specialist at is going to become more and more important.
The Astral Camera Club and Sim Psychograph00:07:00
And also, you know, he published things like fear of race degeneration.
So, this is somebody who really scientifically is looking deep at the human gene pool, which led him to some of his kind of strange eugenics based arguments for peace, believe it or not, because he's like, war destroys the best that we have of the gene pool.
Well, fine.
If that's all eugenics was, then nobody would have a problem with it.
But it goes, unfortunately, in the other direction.
But, you know, What else was he the president of, don't you?
Don't know.
He was the president of the Astral Camera Club.
Astral Camera?
Astral, as in Theosophical Astral.
Is this sort of taking pictures of auras or something?
Exactly.
It's in that ballpark.
It's a completely Theosophical, Anthroposophical style concept that he brings forward.
And he gets together the best minds there at Stanford.
In this astral camera club.
So let's read just a little bit of this.
He has something called the Sim Psychograph.
And remember now, he's the president of Stanford when he does this.
In 1896, Popular Science Monthly published the following article.
It was the heyday of X rays, and David Starr Jordan thought up a jolly joke which backfired, as many believed, and attempted replication.
The Astral Camera Club of Al Khald was organized in November 1895 for purposes of scientific research through the medium of photography.
The function of the club was the cooperative study of man's latent psychical powers.
That these might be made useful in the conduct of life, no powers granted to man should be neglected or allowed to waste in idleness, just as the great physical force of electricity remained for centuries hidden.
So it goes on, and basically, what this is, is he conducts this incredible experiment where he has the, you know, what he calls the most magnetically perfect of the subjects in the Astral Psychic Club project a cat's face onto a photograph.
And there's something of a representation of it here in the article, actually.
But.
Eventually, what happens is it becomes such a controversy that they need to back off and say, Oh, no, it was just a prank, you know, don't worry about it.
But the Astral Club, in fact, functioned for 12 years.
That's not a prank.
So, this whole thing became quite a controversy.
And what's interesting is those of us who remember a very unusual case of someone else who did this type of thing, the guy's name was Ted Sirius.
And there is a trail there in the 60s and 70s of this thought photography that he could do.
And there's actually a videotape of him doing it over and over again while there are many witnesses watching.
And he could think of something like the Eiffel Tower and then impress it on their cameras.
And they were all stunned when he did it.
And if you look at the actual video of him doing it, it's fascinating to watch because something very unusual is taking place.
Later, You know, there's a lot of pressure in the public eye, and he withdraws.
And the guy who originally did the book on him goes to visit him some 20 years later, and he no longer has the ability.
Oh, I didn't know he lost it.
Yeah, but what's interesting is that the person who did the book on him said he had to get into almost like a state, and he would use alcohol to get him into that state.
Now, there are a lot of different triggers for people to getting into psychic states.
Alcohol is not recommended.
No, just the opposite.
But for Sirius, for some reason, This worked with him, and the action that he would take, his physical body would almost contort when he could project these things.
But still, there was something way beyond any known science that was taking place with him.
And they got him off the front pages pretty quickly because he was not, you know, this wasn't like a bending spoons kind of thing, like maybe that's happening, maybe not.
This was really something that was undeniable.
The Astral Camera Club, which had existed all the way back there in 1896.
You have to think how many years and how many people do they take in and test, and was Sirius maybe some kind of offshoot of the work that they had done originally?
That's the kind of stuff that Jordan was into.
Star Jordan is a very unusual character.
We don't know enough about his history, but he's involved again with the Scopes trial.
He's involved in a strange murder case where they think, well, you know, did he cover up this murder?
And in 2003, information about this murder came to light.
We don't know.
I mean, I don't think there's any real answers on that.
Oh, I have a bigger picture of the cat face.
You like this?
They projected the astral cat.
There he is.
And maybe you, with your cat fascination, can do that.
I love the whiskers.
It's so cute.
Actually, it looks like the otters I was looking at last night.
Oh, look.
I see.
It's actually superimposed.
There's two cats in there.
There's a big face and then it's a profile.
Yeah.
I think, let me take one quick look at that again.
I'll show it to everyone one more time.
It is an interesting example and easy to call a hoax and all the rest of it.
However, the existence of the club and their experiments for many years is on the record.
So we have to be thinking this is somebody who invites swamis to give lectures there at Stanford.
This is somebody who's interested in theosophy, who talks about Devakan and Kamaloka.
And concepts associated with anthroposophy and the Tibetan Book of the Dead and things like that.
So, you know, I see that we're looking at somebody who is taking us into the academic realm of using metaphysical reality.
And that's why I think he shows up in the story at Grand Canyon.
And that lends more credence, I think, to that story.
Let's get the kind of official lowdown on him to answer the other person's question.
David Starr Jordan: Pioneer Botanist and Explorer00:02:36
Okay, so he's born January 19th, 1851.
He dies in 1931.
He's the founding president of Stanford, and we know Stanford becomes the very hub of Silicon Valley eventually.
He serves in that capacity from 1891 to 1913.
The camera club, the Astral Camera Club, is from 1896 to 1912.
Starr was also a strong supporter of eugenics, as we mentioned.
His published views expressed a fear of race degeneration and asserted that cattle and human beings are governed by the same laws of selection.
Hello, cattle mutilation.
But he was an anti militarist since he believed the war killed off the best members of the gene pool.
He was born in Gainesville, New York.
We mentioned this earlier.
He was inspired by Louis Agassi to pursue his studies in ichthyology.
This is the thing.
He was a pioneer in a class of undergraduates at Cornell University and had a master's degree in botany.
As I said, he's actually well known for his salmon studies.
He wrote in his autobiography, The Days of a Man During the three years which followed my entrance as a belated freshman, I completed all the requirements for a degree of Bachelor of Science besides about a year or two advanced work in botany.
Taking this last into consideration, the faculty conferred on me at graduation, June 1872, the advanced degree of Master of Science instead of the conventional bachelor's degree.
It was afterward voted not to grant any second degree within a year after the bachelor's had been received.
I was placed quite innocently in the position of being the only graduate of Cornell to emerge with two degrees into one.
So, He has some fascination with Wyoming and the country of Wyoming and the wildflowers there.
And that is this very interesting crisscross because of all of the Powell studies there in Wyoming.
And I think that's what gets him involved around Powell's work.
In fact, he was accepted into the natural history faculty at Indiana University, Bloomington, as a professor of zoology in 1879.
His teaching included his version of eugenics, which sought to prevent the decay.
Of the Anglo Saxon Nordic race by limiting racial mixing and preventing the reproduction of those he deemed unfit.
Wyoming Wildflowers and Stanford's Hidden Hub00:06:35
Interesting that he brings in Nordic and we see so much of the Nordic type alien aspect there.
I always am looking for these types of keys when we're looking at these individuals.
So we get into various parts of his life looking at that very interesting.
Expedition he did with someone from the Smithsonian.
Now, it says here that he may have a role in an apparent cover up in the murder of Jane Stanford.
In 1905, Jordan launched an apparent cover up of the murder by poisoning of Jane Stanford.
While vacationing in Oahu, Stanford had suddenly died of strychnine poisoning, according to the local coroner's jury.
Jordan then sailed to Hawaii, hired a physician to investigate the case, and claimed she had, in fact, died of heart failure.
A condition whose symptoms bear no relationship to those that were actually observed.
His motive for doing so has been the subject of speculation.
One possibility is that he was simply acting to protect the reputation of the university.
Since his finances were precarious and a scandal might have damaged fundraising, he had written the president of Stanford's Board of Trustees to offer several alternate explanations for Mrs. Stanford's death and suggested to select whichever would be the most suitable.
So he's involved in some kind of cover up there.
We don't actually know why.
Uh, since Mrs. Stanford had a difficult relationship with him and reportedly planned to remove him from his position at the university, he might have also had a personal motive.
You think that sounds like it to eliminate suspicions that might have swirled around an unsolved crime.
Jordan's version of Mrs. Stanford's demise was largely accepted until the appearance of several publications in 2003 that emphasized the evidence that she was murdered.
I mentioned George Hodel, Dr. Hodel.
Earlier.
And his secretary dies under the same circumstances where it appears that she's been poisoned, but in fact, he says, no, it was a heart thing.
And a lot of people later said, oh, Hodel's secretary died because she could have revealed all these things and his association in this Black Dahlia crime.
This sounds strikingly familiar.
And I think it is a factor when we look at this individual that he's part of this.
Possibly occulted inside track knowledge, which starts to take the cosmos train in a totally different direction.
I do feel that also we're looking at somebody who knew a great deal, in a sense, because of his follow up discovery of these ruins in the Grand Canyon and took it to the next level.
And remember again, when we look at him and we think all is fish that comes to my net, now it starts to have a slightly more sinister ring to it.
Although we'll leave the query open when it comes to Mr. Jordan.
One thing that he did do was this expedition into the Grand Canyon.
So now let's take some kind of a stock of these facts and think about this.
So we have John Wesley Powell.
Who does the real expeditions into the Grand Canyon and forms the Cosmos Club?
Then we have years later these ruins discovered and then subsequently eliminated by the Smithsonian.
And the whole story gets sort of memory hold, and yet it's found by a few researchers later.
There's incredible pushback against that.
Anyone involved with it is still called a hoaxer.
You'll still see those articles, when in fact it's been proven out.
In large part, I'm sure there's still some mysteries involved.
But what does this tell us about the discovery, the original discovery by Powell?
And then we have here the Stanford president going on the steep expedition associated with the Smithsonian, which basically disappears from history.
So they obviously found something quite remarkable.
Well, let's look at another side then.
We've looked at the ancient discovery side of the Cosmos Club's secret.
Let's look at the technological side of the Cosmos Club secret.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
We're going deep here tonight in X Series 103.
This is, I could say, the Smithsonian cover up.
But in fact, we're looking deep at the Cosmos Club and that connection, that network that they have going on there in relation to UFOs and ancient history.
We're going to be taking questions in the second part of the program, and Miss Olivia will be taking those for you.
How's it going out there?
Going great.
David Termina says.
Doing great tonight.
Cold Spring Harbor Labs, where the eugenicists did their experiments and spread propaganda from, where they learned about human DNA, is famous for its genetically modified salmon as well.
Ah, isn't that interesting?
There's a nice shot of the Cosmos Club.
That's a good point, and Cold Spring Harbor has come up a few times in researching this, so I'm glad that you're on it.
I think that this idea of experimenting with the food chain, which takes us into things like Monsanto, but it also takes us into that kind of corporate world manipulating GMO world, the kind of toxifying of the human race and the real strong need for a return to nature, a return to organic products.
And now we're seeing the kind of Jeff Bezos types taking over whole foods.
That was very disturbing right off the bat.
One of their stores now in Texas is completely run by robots.
Totally automated.
Yeah, it's the first of its kind.
That's horrifying.
Well, this is where they're going with it, and it makes us wonder when we're looking at this what they're going to do with the food production aspects involved there.
Jeff Bezos, Automation, and Whole Foods00:12:40
Bezos, I wouldn't trust at all because he's part of this Davos Bilderberg crowd.
But, you know, he stepped down as CEO for Amazon and.
He is now, you know, really gung ho on his Blue Origins ex steganography trip to space and establishing a moon base and competing with our friend Elon Musk.
So there's a lot of weird things going on, but we're going to look at actually an early Elon Musk character here in a minute, also.
I have to say, though, we're in such a period that, you know, we have to take almost everything that we're hearing in the public.
With a grain of salt, which puts us in a weird position because I think that's been true to a degree most of our lives anyway, but it is so much more true now that the things that they want to tell us in relation to space, in relation to space aliens or UFO threat, or in relation to climate change or whatever, it has to be looked at all with complete suspicion and verification.
So I've thought over and over again about these kind of citizen.
Panels and citizen groups that could act as intermediaries between the political process and the things that people actually want.
Because the political representatives can't do it.
They're all under the pressure of the lobbyists.
And unless you throw that whole system out, it's going to be very difficult to get the will of the people back in there.
So we need to be thinking about solutions along that line.
And I think there's an opportunity with the 2022 election to repudiate.
All of the kind of woke, repressive, and centralizing aspects.
That's one piece.
But I think we're going to be, I don't think that the political system serves where we're at in terms of looking at this and the type of pushback that we need against this very, very corrupt Davos kind of worldwide squeeze.
Call it the globalist, call it the deep state.
They're actually all terms are applicable there.
All right, airships.
Are you ready for airships?
I am so ready.
How ready are you?
Cosmos Club and Airships.
Well, one of the key figures associated with the airship mystery of 1897 is a figure named Samuel S. Q. Tillman.
And he's this gentleman who shows up in a very interesting context in relation to that because he basically has to land his craft.
Let me back up for a moment and say that.
These mysteries from 1897 come from, again, a series of articles that got out and sort of ahead of the official story that later they would try to get rid of them and say, oh, somebody just made them up.
Exactly like the Grand Canyon Egyptian ruins story, which is the kind of thing that they need to do to get rid of the record.
But there were so many sightings of this from New Orleans to Chicago that nobody could get around it.
And some of the drawings of these things are just remarkable.
These things just show up over a town.
And in Texas, in particular, they had said one of them had crashed, and so on.
There's early versions of this as well.
Now, officially, there was nobody flying anything in 1897, so the obvious question is who were they?
And if they were off world visitors, then these were very early UFO sightings, obviously.
However, of course, I believe there were UFOs flying around in every century that were off world, but I think that many of the sightings of the UFO mystery in 1897 had to do with.
Again, trial balloons of seeing how the public would react to these things.
And I think technologically, as has been shown through the work of people like Jim Mars and Joseph Farrell, for example, this type of technology existed if you knew where to look for it.
The various aero clubs.
And all the work around Del Shau, so many authors have tackled, and the aero club that he was part of, obviously, we've done shows on that.
Here in the X series.
So, this is going to tie directly into that as a matter of fact, but let's find out a little bit about Tillman.
Tillman was an astronomer, engineer, military educator, co founder of the Cosmos Club.
In the stories around this, what came out is a Dallas Morning News story.
There's a sighting of one of these ships over Stevensville.
And what cracks me up about this is if you look up Stevensville, it's well known for a Large scale UFO sighting close by to W. George W. Bush's ranch when he was president.
And in that period, it's like one of the most significant UFO waves that takes place.
But this story is from 1897.
You know, you're going back over 100 years on that, and it's Stevensville again, which is making me wonder about the area itself.
Here's the story The airship is very much as reported.
By the news, it consists of a cigar shaped body about 60 feet in length.
The motive power is an immense wheel at each end, in appearance, much like a metallic windmill.
It is driven by an immense electric engine which derives its power from storage batteries.
The crewmen, earthlings, it sadly turned out, gave their names as S.E. Tillman, Samuel S.Q. Tillman.
I lost his picture already.
S.E. Tillman, he's one who was identified.
And A.E. Dolbear.
A.E. Dolbear, just keep this in mind.
He is Alexander Graham Bell before Alexander Graham Bell by about 10 years.
Physicist.
They explained that they were on a test cruise in compliance with a contract they held with certain New York capitalists.
They are confident they have achieved a great success, and within a short time, navigation in the air will be an assured fact, said the farmer.
A group came out and was observing them.
In fact, and they had to tell them, oh, stand back, you know, we're charging this thing and we're going to take off.
So there are a lot of witnesses to this.
But they did, in fact, identify themselves because whatever contract they had, they probably assumed the stuff was going to be public soon and they'd be heroes.
Didn't turn out to be the case.
However, what has never come up in relation to this is again, the Cosmos Club is right in the middle of it because we have the co founder of the Cosmos Club, S.C. Tillman, riding in an airship in 1897.
Now, when we look at John Wesley Powell and his incredible.
Expeditions of the Colorado River and his incredible Grand Canyon expeditions.
And we say, was he perhaps riding around in one of these airships with his co founder, S.C. Tillman, surveying the whole place?
Did the Native Americans see him up there and say, hey, we've seen other people like you?
Did we get the UFO file at this early stage?
Was the Cosmos Club working on it at this very early period, 1870s?
Is that when the UFO file really, you know, forget about, hey, we reverse engineered it from 1947 after the Roswell crash.
Let's just throw that out for a minute.
If they were doing airships here and they were using them as part of this, and then suddenly Powell becomes an incredible, everybody wants to be with Powell, including presidents, senators, scientists, everyone who's anyone, and the Cosmos Clubs get founded and then.
National Geographic, right after it, and then all those presidents and all those people that are associated with the National Geographic Society, Alexander Graham Bell, for example, who starts his own experimental aerial club, as we're going to find out.
Does this start to make more sense?
And then we think, wait a minute, we've got now Star Jordan going in and finding Egyptian ruins and walking in the path of Powell.
We have Powell naming all these ruins.
All these different land formations as Osiris and everything else.
Again, Egyptian characteristics, Egyptian names.
So, if we can get our heads wrapped around this a little bit, it might make a lot more sense when we get to the incredible wall of secrecy period in the 40s and 50s around this, and then the incredible push that they're doing around the threat part now.
This is why we need to kind of jump centuries in order to understand what's going on.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
This is X Series 103.
We're going deep here with the Cosmos Club.
And now we're going deep with S.E. Tillman in the airship mystery.
Let's read a little more about this mystery.
We're going to be taking your questions pretty soon here.
How are you doing out there?
Great.
Nene says, this is so fascinating.
Let me grab this.
Yeah.
Does that fish slash monkey pic look a lot like the Masonic pic with the pillars on either side to you?
Also, many memes going around with peeps covering their eyes with fish heads.
Like, really interesting.
Ah, that is really interesting.
Yeah.
Well, what is up with this?
Why would you?
I mean, that's such a weird meme.
What are you telling us?
It is.
I mean, we're deep in Masonic territory with all of these figures, in fact.
So, they all have Masonic connections for sure, which was pretty typical when you got into any position of merit in that period and doesn't automatically make them deep esotericists or even deep insiders.
But if they are a deep insider and they're on that deeper level of Masonic knowledge and connections, then it does open up, I would say, their imagery a lot.
I found the image on Jordan's book.
It looked kind of like, you know, it looked almost like a conjuring type imagery.
So, you know, it's a kind of grimoire in a sense.
And I think that that's where we're seeing this, you know, that's the kind of thing that I'm locking into with him.
I also am getting a naturally supernatural, you know, I get more of the supernatural part when talking about the astral camera thing with him, but.
Those people, I'm feeling, have a very supernatural twist.
When you get to the CIA part, I think they study it.
And I think they want to use occult powers there later.
But I think that these people were really deep in it.
You know, the early Powell working with the Paiutes and things of this nature.
And I even think Tillman, you know, I don't see them as black magicians at all, actually.
I think that they were probably opening up to all kinds of different types of things.
And I think that the group, the Cosmos Club, was run over a cliff.
By these more negative things.
I think it got co opted, as did other groups, by the way.
There's a point at which Ospensky, when speaking of theosophy, actually, no, it's Rudolf Steiner talking about it and how at its cradle stood true initiators of the Theosophical Society.
But that by the time you got to 1909, it had become the plaything for all types of different occult forces.
Airships, Crowley, and the Cosmos Club Fall00:03:03
And this does happen.
Once you break through a level, you need to maintain that level.
And it's You become the target of these darker groups who like to co opt the whole thing.
And we've seen that.
We saw it with the Golden Dawn and Crowley, for example.
So these are the things that you're always kind of competing with.
Let's take another kind of dance back there to the airships a little bit.
And then Alexander Graham Bell, The Texas Airship Mysteries, 1897.
There's an article here from a blog.
And it's tech today.
And he just said a few interesting things that I thought I would follow up on.
There were a few dirigibles around in 1897, but they weren't very common and they weren't very sophisticated.
So, is this thing some guys saw after a late night drinking really a UFO?
The New Orleans Picayune was the first to report on April 27th, 1897.
That a gay crowd going home, of course, gay meant happy in those days, about 1 30 in the morning from a party was treated to a strange sight coming from the western heavens.
The spectacle consisted of a massive airship, the first story being of a balloon shape, and then the undercar being of a conical or cigar form, basically a large cigar shape.
At first, it seemed to be a faintly animated spark, but grew brighter as it got nearer until its entire form was clearly perceptible.
The Picayune claimed it was evidently a machine of unique invention and bore striking resemblance to the movement of some huge bird.
It was visible, though, at about 1,000 feet high.
Now, what happened was this sighting travels through all the states.
And so when they go back and look at those newspapers, all they have to do is track the date, and all the newspapers come up with the same story, including Texas.
So there's been great research done on the airship mystery, and I highly recommend everyone check it out.
But I want to look at it now.
In context of what we found out about Tillman being the founder, along with Powell, of the Cosmos Club, because that brings everything in a totally different light.
And that really, I think, is where we're going with this.
If Tillman has access to that type of technology to fly across the United States, and if basically no one else is doing that, and if we look at his connection with Powell and we see all the incredible things that Powell was able to do, I think we click in.
Dramatically, with the idea that Powell was using the airships for his incredible expeditions.
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And that is the foundational secret of the Cosmos Club, along with his discoveries and ruins.
You know, there's also the idea that is it possible that these people, as we have the Roswell story, but we set it back about 100 years, discovered a crashed craft?
All of these things, I think, come into play, certainly.
And we have to now look at the Cosmos Club.
As an instant secrecy level that they have with it, which is why by the time you get to the 1940s and 50s, they have incredible coders and steganography people.
The guy that I started off with, who's talking about the fact that ETs are real, and he's an NSA guy, and he's a master coder who goes around during World War II recruiting all these coders for the United States from different countries, and it becomes the foundation of our ability to do this.
A lot of this, and when we talk about the foundation of this series is X steganography, it is in fact the steganography, the coding, the hidden aspect of this that we're looking at, and we see it so palpable there in the Cosmos Club.
All right, let's do a quick jump to Alexander Graham Bell.
Well known, as everybody knows, as the inventor of the telephone.
In fact, the person who was flying around with Tillman, however, He actually had some of the earliest patents for the telephone.
And it became like the patent office had to approve Bell over this other stuff that was hanging out there for 10 years by this other character who was flying around with Tillman.
But nonetheless, Bell was a genius.
And he was from Scotland.
And I'm sure as we get into his ancestry and the Masonic ties there, there's something really dramatic.
But he certainly was a true genius.
And he was obsessed because his mother and his wife.
Were deaf with solving that particular issue for humanity.
And I think that this is a deep piece of how we get him working as such a genius.
But although he's known for the telephone, he actually is incredibly concerned with experimental aircraft and has his own aircraft team studying this particular issue.
Now, he would get involved and look at this from a totally different angle.
And what he saw and the research that he did around it had to do with tetrahedron and these whole types of patterns and how they would fly.
And he created all these types of craft, which, if you think of them as very early versions, you can see later look a lot like UFOs.
And in fact, there are many articles going back.
Into his aerial work, where after the UFO craze hits, they say, Hey, look, you know, Alexander Graham Bell's aerial stuff kind of looks like UFOs.
Isn't that interesting?
But I think that Bell, there's one in particular that he has here.
There's another thing that we need to say in relation to him, which is that all of his sort of in laws and the family circle, they all get involved.
Around either the National Geographic Society, the Smithsonian, or the Cosmos Club, or all three.
So Bell is like a central figure.
And then Bell becomes very interested in the Wright brothers.
And then he takes the Wright brothers and brings them to the Cosmos Club, where they stay.
So we've got flight deep, deep in the Cosmos Club.
This is what they're very concerned with at a certain point.
And one of the kind of fantastic people that comes out of this period later is someone who we're going to.
Cover in a moment who is Sherman Fairchild, who is great friends with Howard Hughes.
And both of them are in a race to create the ultimate flyer and then ultimately the ultimate space contractor.
This is a piece, I think, when we're looking at it, that we can see the foundation of our space program.
And remember again that von Braun worked for Fairchild and that Fairchild becomes sort of the central point in that space.
But what was he doing in the early days?
Well, he was the one who figured out aerial cameras and how you could do aerial archaeology having those cameras on those planes.
So we're getting, when we look at these figures, we're starting to see one that we're looking at ancient archaeology taking a huge jump here because we have archaeologists before hunting around on the ground.
Now we have planes that can do it.
And then one of the things we're starting to learn when we look at these groups, people like Lindbergh, what did they do when they weren't working or sailing across the Atlantic?
Well, they were flying over Mayan ruins.
They were flying over the hot zone to see what they could find about ancient civilization and the Maya in particular.
And the Maya comes up over and over again in relation to all of these different people.
So we have to kind of start to look at this as.
You know, these groups and these people having a certain knowledge about something, and then when they get deeper into that club, they get more knowledge.
So when we think about the UFO file and we think about the deep meetings at the Cosmos Club, we start to really open up to this idea of how much do they know.
And with that, Miss Olivia, I'm going to go into your questions.
My head is dizzy with all of this.
Okay, so I'm just going to throw them at you.
So Kantiki Man says Is DJ implying they were experimenting with ancient flying tech after the Grand Canyon expedition?
Well, this is what I think the question has to be raised because if they're finding all this Egyptian stuff, in one of those explanations, they say there's all this gray metal in these cave caverns, and then they come up to like Egyptian mummies, and then they describe these other things that sound, you know, it's clearly hieroglyphic.
It sounds like a typical Egyptian temple inside of a cave.
But I thought the metal was interesting, and they said it resembled plutonium.
Remember, these are geologists as well.
So, whatever it is they're discovering in relation to this, as they get called in scientifically as a group to study these things, geology might turn out to be perhaps one of the most important expertise.
That might be something in their possession.
It might become actually one of the most important qualities because geology takes us into all kinds of different territory when looking at this.
Remember, Edgar Cayce and the Two Eye Stone, the Atlanteans ran.
The entire culture off of the two eye stone power, which was a crystal that refracted through the sun and created power stations.
Well, certainly, we use crystals in everything now.
Geology becomes so much more important when we're looking at the advanced technology.
So, you know, people are always saying, well, theoretical physics and all this kind of thing.
But you would need that mastery of the geology.
So, I think it becomes crucial when they talk about going to other planets and things like that.
You know, it's the same thing.
It's a kind of geological understanding.
So, yeah, I think what happens is the expeditions are aided by some kind of overflight technology.
The question is did the original expeditions find something that allowed them to accelerate that process?
Because, you know, they could have had it.
Maybe that's the key, which is by using the overflights of what they had, they were able to find things like ruins.
Or they found something very advanced back there.
Certainly, we have to kind of lay ourselves open to both possibilities.
Yes.
Deborah Blair, with the lead up of esoteric schools slash thought from the 1600s, might the cosmos clubs have members who are alien andor extra dimensionals?
Wow.
Well, you know, you're going very deep where I am going.
And, you know, it's interesting.
It has to be entertained and looked at.
I always go back to the.
The Fitz story, but there's a lot of stories from Val Thor and all the rest about actual extraterrestrials being involved.
And that would really put you on a different level, secrecy wise, as well.
I remember, this is named Charles Hall, who came up with this whole Tall Whites thing.
And, you know, his story was very unusual.
And, you know, I think that there have been enough of these stories for that to be a completely viable possibility.
I also think it's possible that there's an aspirational piece to this.
One of the things that swirled around the Nixon stories and Merritt's story about Nixon, which I think needs a deeper look, is that we had captured some of these gray aliens and that we were trying to communicate with them over decades.
Of course, this spawned all kinds of stuff about Area 51 and they produced, you know.
Puppet videos and things like that.
However, the core idea that something crashes here, we capture it, and then we get technology from it by communicating with it, or we get a deeper level of understanding, I think that's incredibly viable and it has to be looked at.
Fitz's story was that they wanted her to join this Navy think tank, which, by the way, is on the record that she was part of this think tank.
And they were very upset that she let out this little piece of it, and they said, You know, we were operating under a secrecy rule or whatever.
And Fitz responded to them in public because they denied initially that it was about an ET related subject.
So she had to, as a matter of principle, defend herself on that.
And so they said, you know, to reveal meeting minutes of this secret conversation just shows that, you know, you have no respect for us or whatever.
But Fitz was like, hey, you know, if you're going to talk about it and say that I wasn't, you know, Being accurate in my description of it, then I'm going to prove you out.
So, certainly it happened.
But what she said, which is so interesting, is she said they invited her when she said, I'm not so sure about if there are ETs.
And they said, Would you like to have lunch with some aliens?
So, it raises the question if she had said yes, what would have happened?
But certainly, I think there's enough out there to indicate it's a factor.
You know, and what's interesting is there's so much disinformation around it that it's hard to get a real picture.
And You know, I'm sure that one of the things that they would pull with, like, a Lou Elizondo scenario or TTSA scenario is to create a false alien that they were interacting with.
So we have to kind of operate with two states of mind on that one.
Yes.
Provocateur astrology, what does the Cosmos Club Charter say is their purpose?
Well, there's no question that, you know, it's all about brotherhood and, you know, Doing things for humanity and bringing the best minds together for that.
It's a very kind of pat, idealistic piece.
And it definitely calls out to our scientific minds.
So fundamentally, it has that.
The early members are very interesting for their diversity of interests.
But the thing that I find is a common thread deep in there is that.
There's a kind of mastery of geology.
And Powell, of course, has a very deep knowledge around the subject.
So I think that that's what I'm keying in on in the early piece of the Cosmos Club they're kind of master geologists.
Yes.
Blazon River, the Carrington event, 1859.
Did someone come out from inner earth to check things out with airships?
Yeah, I mean, There's all kinds of different theories about what we could be sharing the planet with.
Crypto Terrestrials was that book by Mac Tawnys, and then strangely, he died very young after he put it out.
And I'll bring Fitz up again.
She said to me, I think it's strange that he died that way.
Whenever somebody dies after putting out information like that, it makes me very curious.
And that book, which is a very small book, opens up the idea that there's a group operating side by side with us.
Who is just a little more advanced and they're not quite human as we understand it is something that we've skipped, we've missed.
And that when they get into this major centralization thing with the injection of mRNA things to track us and all of these different types of technological tracking abilities, I've had conversations with Dr. Farrell where he has said that this all could be in relation to them trying to suss out who is from that group and who isn't.
And can they identify through things like this?
I remember very clearly when the TSA came up after 9 11 and they were shaking everybody down at the airport and really making it uncomfortable unless you went through that radiation machine.
Which Michael Chertoff, who had been the first director of the Department of Homeland Security, he was part of the company that created those, which is a real conflict of interest for a lot of reasons.
But I remember the argument at the time was there was a radio frequency scanner that did the exact same thing in terms of searching for metal or weapons on a person, and you didn't need The kind of X ray radiation one.
So, why were they using it?
So, it does open up because remember, every time these people do something, they have second levels of things that it's about.
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And certainly.
Stacked purposes, right?
Exactly.
I do feel like this is something that we really have to look at.
Yes.
Okay, so provocateur astrology again.
Did the Cosmos Club come out of the spiritualist movement at the time?
Where does spiritualism fit in with all this?
It was exploding because in 1875 we had.
Helena Blavatsky creating the Theosophical Society, which is an earthquake in all of science and religion and the public domain because it introduces things that weren't there.
And it also introduces them in a very authoritative fashion, and they're leaked directly out of the mystery schools.
So that is something which comes out so powerfully.
And then we also have the Golden Dawn information found.
Old scrolls that Trithemius had tucked away there in the 15th century.
So, you know, these are the types of things that were coming out in this period.
And the way that Rudolf Steiner described it was that when we reached the 1840s, the mystery groups looked out because scientific materialism had become adopted through Germany to America as the scientific rule, which is even more dominant than just.
A regular materialism.
The scientific materialism stated anything that couldn't be weighed or measured didn't exist.
And so the whole concept of spirituality would just go completely out the window.
And so Steiner said that those groups reckoned internally that in 100 years, the way that things were going, that we wouldn't recognize humanity.
That's in 1840.
So by the time we'd get to another century in, we would be unrecognizable if they just left the situation alone.
And what happens in America.
Which is where they were kind of the staging ground for the mystery schools, they let out after kind of quite a battle inside those schools.
They let out information because remember, their hallmark is the secrecy and they maintain things.
The mystery schools have carried this.
You know, one of the mystery schools has as their banner honey and a honeycomb, you know, like preservation.
Gurdjieff had talked about the Enneagram.
And the Sarmoon Brotherhood meant beekeeper.
So, it's like a Noah's Ark kind of thing.
So, the idea of letting that out is an incredible decision to make.
So, in Steiner's research around it, along with Harrison's work in that same period, they talk about the mystery schools coming to the point of saying we have to let this information out.
And it comes out in a very wobbly way at first because you have the spiritualism craze and then.
That becomes obsessive in such a way that it actually is interfering.
And it was kind of an experiment gone wrong in a sense, because the idea was not to get caught up in a craze, but it was to kind of enlarge their spiritual vision.
So we got off on a track there.
And the mystery schools, in the end, decided the compromised figure was Blavatsky, who they were aware of astrologically from birth, which I find remarkable.
So when you look at it, I think that we have to see that this is.
You know, a period when these things were coming out, and then different groups could make of them what they would.
You know, you could exploit the theosophical information that came out, or you could make it into something like anthroposophy.
And so it had its good uses and its wrong uses, just like any good religion would.
However, this was a kind of a pure response from those deep, deep mystery schools.
To what was taking place on the surface, and that our mentality had sunk down to such a level that we were going to be, in their opinion, unrecognizable in a century.
So we'd be completely cut off from that spiritual side and just become these kind of scientific automatons.
So I think that that is really where we go with that.
And you look at that period, these groups, you know, they're getting like, you have the ability to do an astral.
Camera society because it's in the air.
However, people like Star Jordan are, as university presidents and connected with these things, are probably have deep, deep access to certain levels of those mystery schools.
One of the things that Steiner says in relation to them is that the entire political process in America, and he's talking about 1910, so it's a little bit later, but he said the entire process is controlled either by The right hand schools or the left hand schools, like across the board, and they recognize each other either way.
So, that gives you some idea of just how many secrets along this line are coming out.
They were able to tap and really tamp a lot of this down over time because if you get in later, you're looking at it until the 60s.
Really, a lot of these things aren't even in the mainstream.
I mean, in the 50s, you get Bridie Murphy and reincarnation, but if you're going, you know, there are movements, there are spiritualists and things.
But after that original explosion of Blavatsky and then Steiner's work and then the Gurdjieff work, that is a very definable pattern.
But it only really explodes on a mainstream scale in the 1960s and 70s, where really you have an incredible advancement of people looking at reincarnation, looking at psychic abilities, and looking at all these different things UFOs, astral experience.
It's all there.
And it's heavily, heavily marketed to the culture.
And there's a very open thing going on about it, which I think is very healthy, as opposed to the kind of thing that we're seeing now, which is a kind of a sick, you know, there's a really twisted quality to this CIA disclosure thing because they know that people have been working on this.
And what they're trying to do is take away the progress for those groups that are working on it.
And kind of co opt the thing to spread a lie to the masses.
So we're in a kind of a very tricky terrain, especially considering who these people are and the kind of Nazi lockdown tactics that they've been using.
Yes.
I want to get into the astral photography for a minute.
David Tormina says DJ, Tesla said that it would be possible to directly project a person's thoughts onto a screen through a special type transducer technology.
Marco Silva says in Strange Angel, Jack Parsons show, the Magus of the The Pasadena OTO Temple is an astral photographer.
Wow.
And Mermaid in the USA says Marcel Vogel of IBM did the same with liquid crystals using mental projection to get a picture of Mary, Mother of God.
That is fascinating.
Well, Vogel was involved in all sorts of unusual stuff, including looking at the crystal skull.
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And he was very open minded.
What's interesting is, and we didn't get to him in this episode so deeply, but when I was looking at Sherman Fairchild, I was looking at his dad, and Sherman Fairchild, of course, creating the aerial photography and creating Fairchild Aerospace, which von Braun would join and really would become a leading, very, very hardcore defense contractor and satellite maker.
But Fairchild's dad was the creator of IBM.
So, you know, IBM would become.
That really key core aspect.
And also, when learning more about Fairchild, who I will go into more depth in the next episode, Fairchild himself was always looking and promoting these very young genius types through his Silicon Valley think tanks.
And he actually got the guy who created the circuit board and created these very early semiconductors.
And he You know, got him out there immediately and put the funds behind him immediately.
And, you know, they say so much about the switch there in thinking about computing to semiconductors through the work of Fairchild, who was doing it through this basically 22 year old genius.
So when we look at that, we have to say, where did that technology come from?
And does it come again through this Cosmos Club connection of them knowing this advanced technology?
So are we looking at this, you know, People have often said, oh, you know, we've got this thing that happened, like the Corso example, Roswell happens, and then we get all these circuit boards and everything else.
It actually makes a lot more sense to look at an incident like the Powell founding of the Cosmos Club and the idea that we've been working on reexamining that stuff with the best scientists on Earth since the 1870s.
You know, then the whole progression makes a lot more sense rather than just saying, hey, this thing crashed, we redeveloped it in a decade and became Superman.
I think that there's something to looking at it, especially with the airship mystery so closely linked with a founder of the Cosmos Club.
Atlantean Technology and Physics-Defying Abductions00:15:41
I think it's undeniable.
Yes.
Interesting.
Contiki Man, is it known who was funding the Cosmos Club?
Any connection with the Nimza backers?
All the money, right?
Yeah, I mean, you could say, I'm sure you could do a real crisscross on those.
It's hard to say because even Powell himself, when you're looking at those early pieces, it's really hard to say where Powell's backing is coming from, which I find very interesting.
But one of the things that's noted is that.
It's not even under government sanction.
Eventually it is.
But, like, his trips down the Colorado River and stuff, he and his crew are on their own.
And at one point, you know, their equipment wipes out and it becomes a very difficult thing.
There's also a strange story there where when he's leaving the Grand Canyon, three of his people decide that they're going to leave a day early.
And he's like, Well, I want to go to this sacred Indian site, you know, so we're going to go there.
And then we'll leave the next day, and they say, No, we're not going to do it.
And those three guys who go down there, and they all have their different specialties, they all disappear.
So, when they were together and stuff, they didn't encounter hostilities, interestingly enough.
And then, yet these three guys go on their own and they disappear.
And I started thinking of the David Pilatus stuff in a way that just that theme out there of people and the mysterious disappearances in those national parks.
And then you think of these three specialists who got all the way through, after all, with Powell, and then just simply disappear.
I think there's a lot in the John Wesley Powell story besides just the wow, this guy really laid out the national park scene.
Yes.
We've had this question before.
I don't know if I've ever thrown it at you.
Marco Silva, DJ, have you heard about the 90s book Underground Alien Bases by One Commander X?
Yes, yes.
I don't think you ever wrote it, though.
I don't have it.
And, um, yeah, I'll have to go take a deeper dive on Commander X before I can give you an intelligent response, but it's an interesting reminder on that.
Um, and if there's anything about it you want to send to me, you can send it to me at djdarkjournalist.com.
So, yeah, I'd be interested in looking at that.
Okay, Silver Fox, is there a secret handshake at the Cosmos Club?
If it was secret, we wouldn't know about it, right?
Here's the thing these groups have secret hand signals, and it goes beyond handshakes.
That's in very early theosophical literature.
And so we know what was going on back then.
God knows the levels to which they go now.
Just like steganography back then, as I said, was using a certain word or a series of phrases or something that would be out in the open.
It's literally limitless how they could do it.
But in the computer age, people became obsessed with the idea of steganography as one pixel of a graphic.
And that would be the secret handshake of the whole thing.
So there's all sorts of different ways that they've adopted it.
But I think we do get limited when we think of steganography as just technology.
There's a lot of that out there.
And they're like, oh, yeah, steganography, it's used by hackers and things like that.
Oh, steganography goes back to the Egyptians and the Greeks.
That's who were really using it to perfection.
And the Book of the Dead, in the Egyptian Book of the Dead, there's a lot of steganography.
Certainly the ex steganography is very old.
And it is probably from Atlantean times, would be my guess.
Yes.
David Termia also wanted to remind us that Fairchild Aircraft is on Long Island as well.
Hey, absolutely.
There's so much about Fairchild.
And I think that it's also interesting that, you know, Von Braun gives this interview and he talks and he sort of gives away too much information about the moon.
And then, boom, he's out of there and he shows up in Fairchild, which means Fairchild had the government okay for, you know, if you have somebody who's.
Under cast under a shadow, right now, we'll take him on.
And of course, that's where he met Carol Rosen.
And when we think about what Rosen has come out and said recently, she said in a video, and I'll reach out to her actually, try to get her on a program to talk about this.
But of course, she worked with Von Braun, and he had told her what was going to happen in terms of how they were going to use these different threats to consolidate power.
And the final card was the alien invasion card.
And what she said, which I found remarkable, was that she felt with all of these announcements that the final card was being played, which is a direct quote from what she is saying.
So when I'm raising a warning around what they're doing with the UFO threat part, and some other people are doing it as well, I'm glad to see that because unfortunately the UFO field fell down on the job.
Because they all got excited about maybe they could get on the History Channel TV show, you know, whatever it happens to be.
Get on the CIA's good side and we'll give you some more information, dude.
You know, whatever kind of dumb logic they were using, they got in a trap.
And so now we have them supporting the very op that they've spent their careers.
Dr. Farrell called it an epistemological flip flop 24 hours, you know, that you go from your whole career opposing the CIA and government censorship around the UFO file, and then you.
You say, I'm willing to take CIA disclosure from these guys because I've been working at it so long, I want the recognition.
You know, that's a dangerous position to be in because then you'll fall for anything, you know?
So that's a dangerous place, I think, to play from.
Yes.
Sam Wexberg says the mystery schools, mystery Babylon religion safekeepers told Powell where to look for the Atlantis ruins therapist.
Yeah.
Scarlett Fire says, I read years ago the entrance to the Grand Canyon Egyptian area.
Was a cave that you could access only by climbing down hanging ropes.
The area has been closed to the public for like 100 years.
Yes.
Private pilot says, I read that these Grand Canyon ruins are guarded by Marines even today.
You know, it's interesting.
For sure, they're on government land, which is a real problem.
There's no question that those ruins were guarded and probably shipped out the majority of them, what they could take out of there.
The Smithsonian probably got their hands on them, and that's where that deeper Smithsonian connection is in those articles.
Jordan's part of that, certainly.
I think the mysterious things around Jordan, also including Stanford's death and his role in helping to cover it up, show a real kind of secrecy aspect with him.
Whether or not he's involved, we don't know, but there's something really strange about Star Jordan in relation to this.
But again, you know, when we think of Powell as somebody who really forged these relationships with the natives, and he was working very closely with the Native Americans and the Paiutes in a way that wasn't recorded at that point, people hadn't had those types of relationships.
There are interesting things that the Paiutes were the water Utes, also.
I find that interesting.
So, we have a series of different tribes there, and we have him working with it.
But again, here's another weird thing, which is he's stationed in Cape Girardeau, which is to become in 1941 a central UFO crash place.
It becomes kind of the birth of this before Roswell.
People look back on it, they find this case.
So, that's unusual.
I found another unusual connection with Fairchild having property in Coconut Grove.
And there was a huge case there of a very interesting abduction case in Coconut Grove, Florida.
So, this thing is starting to spread out and look like a map considerably when we're looking at it.
Yes.
Sorry, I'm getting a porn box again.
You know, we're getting a porn box.
We love coming in this time of night.
There's this kind of craze that goes on in the ideas room where it gets somebody, some digital hacker, gets in there and tries to flood it with a bunch of nonsense links.
What is that?
Yeah.
So, but thankfully, we have the good people of the ideas room in there giving us the real deal.
Okay.
Okay.
Melanie Kay, many feel the Egyptian artifacts found in the Grand Canyon were brought here by fleeing Ptolemies.
Yes, the world was very connected then.
So, Cleopatra's son, I guess?
There's no question.
There was a guy named Torah Heyerdahl who was really, really deep.
He had Kontiki missions and stuff.
And he went across from Africa to America and really, like, almost like these little rafts.
And he made it.
He showed that it could be done.
And he did that for years.
So it's on the record.
Certainly, they could do it that way.
If they had any kind of advanced technology, there's no question.
In the Casey work, in Steiner's work, in Theosophy, the Egyptians have the advanced aerial flight.
It peters out because.
After Atlantis, they don't have the same resources to do it, but the knowledge of it was there, and certainly the priests and others used it.
There's a lot of legends of King Solomon flying around, you know, and they'll say, Oh, and these different Arab legends of King Solomon is on a flying carpet, things like that.
You know, what are we talking about?
What are they flying on?
In fact, somebody, there's some remnant of this technology.
There's a classic quote inside the Casey readings when they ask him, You know, What did the Atlantean technology look like, the flying ships and things?
What were the kind of Atlantean UFOs?
And he said, Oh, they're such as Ezekiel described at a much later date.
So, whatever Ezekiel was describing there with this uncanny thing is Atlantean technology.
So, somebody had kept it because Ezekiel comes way after the Atlanteans for sure.
But that's a fascinating piece, and it's too bad we don't have more of it.
But certainly there are accounts of flying craft and spectacles in the sky and all these things.
And I think the ancient Atlantean, no, the ancient alien crowd is kind of like everything's an alien coming in, which neglects the whole advanced ancient culture idea, which is very well supported by history and probably a larger secret because it pertains to who we are as humanity,
as opposed to this overemphasis on the alien aspect and the alien idea, which is something that you see happening, which is they're kind of creating a mythology around the aliens.
That they're advanced to a point where they're a threat, and they are so advanced also that they are saviors.
So, in both of those models, we're not peers.
I don't like that.
I think the discovery of who we are on a spiritual basis is far more important than some interstellar scientific group checking out.
Because remember, when we talk about those abductions, and I think it's important.
To go over the abductions.
And I find the fact that Mellon and Kane, who lived with Bo Hopkins for 10 years, I mean, you know all about abductions, right?
That they all avoid this, that Elizonda runs for the hills, right?
I'm not going to talk about abductions because what do they do in those abductions?
Well, often they take skin samples, and we've heard about cases with sperm samples and things like that.
These are scientific analysis groups, you know.
And I remember when talking with Charlie Fultz, who's part of the Allagash incident, he and I had a very good conversation by accident because I met him by accident years ago.
And he told me the entire encounter and what took place at the Allagash when he and the two twins that he was with were taken aboard this craft.
Those guys were professors, art teachers at Mass Art College.
And I said, what was your impression of this thing?
And he said it was like a large insect in coveralls.
And he said some people attribute things that are very holy to them or demonic to aliens, but it just seemed to him like they were in a science lab doing their rote experiment.
And the only thing was they wanted them to kind of keep calm.
And they would say, don't worry, we're not going to hurt you, that kind of thing, which is what you'd say to a test subject, right?
So, you know, yeah, it's sort of like going to the vet with your pet.
That's the kind of impression that he got.
And I got a lot from that also.
He also said that when he looked into the being's eyes, that you get this incredible magnetic thing where you almost like float up into their eyes.
So I think there's a great deal going on there.
And I think when we talk about this emphasis around the physics, You know, when they talk about UFOs, they're going through these different physics things.
There's that apotheum quality that brought up on this show in relation to UFO encounters.
People go through walls when they are getting abducted, all typical rules of physics seem to vanish.
That's very crucial.
You know, that doesn't seem to be something that this UFO, the CIA op, is interested in bringing out to the public, talking about those types of things.
So, I think that this is where we'll find the real answers, and we'll find a lot of answers about how that secrecy has worked as well.
Yes.
Najat Madri, flight in ancient Egypt slash Atlantis wasn't technically flying.
It was that the air was so etheric and devices were able to float.
That's pretty interesting, let's face it.
Cosmic Secrecy and the Top-Heavy Hierarchy00:03:56
You know, there's a thing where if you really key in on the Casey and the Steiner work, you'll start to notice all these interesting things that they have to say.
One of the things that they point to is that the air quality was totally different and we also weren't so enmeshed in material form.
As we were.
And one of the comments he said was that, you know, the things that we understand as scientists now in our culture would be the common thing that people would understand in the day of the Egyptians.
So those Egyptians understood these things, they had that grasp.
Maybe it was that incredible Alexandrian library.
Eric, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
We're here with X Series Episode 103, going very deep.
On the Cosmos Club and all these connections.
We're in the Grand Canyon.
We're in the airship mystery.
John Wesley Powell and Sherman Fairchild.
Where will we go next?
This has become a very fascinating mystery.
But I'll tell you what's opening up inside the Cosmos Club we're getting a real handle on where the secrecy and the imbalance and knowledge comes from, because that's what we're experiencing in the culture.
And it's a kind of a psychotic factor that is bringing us in.
To this sort of broken junk culture.
Because if one group has this kind of information and they're at the top, then the whole thing becomes top heavy.
And what happens then?
The group at the top and the mid level groups that are around this whole thing in terms of knowledge, you know, that has to be harmonized and balanced out.
Because if it's not, then you run the risk of this kind of a culture where the leadership's doing one thing and the people on the ground have no idea why.
And have you looked around and said, why are they working with experimental mRNA injections?
And why have they exaggerated all the threats around the health crisis?
And why have they done all the lockdowns?
Why did they do the weird stuff about masks when they were instructed that none of that would make any difference?
What are they up to exactly?
What are the experiments that they're running?
And so it feeds a cycle of distrust between the leadership.
And the people who are just trying to live as an American citizen or a citizen of the world in any country, and they have this thing coming at them, you know.
And when they say things like great reset or whatever it happens to be, it doesn't explain it.
It doesn't explain it.
What is the change, and what is it that they have discovered that they're looking at, and that they're now, since they've cut us off, they've used our money to finance themselves in space.
What are they doing?
And, you know, I think the complete collapse of trust in the media on one hand, and then, you know, it's almost like something like the COVID crisis was manufactured in order to get us to need the leadership and the establishment again.
And they might have to pull those out every year or two just to keep stuff going so that we still need them.
Because at a certain point, I think there's a mass that is starting to see through these things.
And so, where do we get the secrecy?
In fact, the Cosmos Club and these types of places, this is what might give us the real answer to where that secrecy comes from.
Yes.
I love this question.
We talk about this all the time.
Sam R., why hasn't there been another psychic like Casey?
Are they hiding?
Atlantis Survivors, Yucatan, and Psychic Lineage00:08:47
Casey, can you talk about his genealogy and where he got his ability to begin with?
Because there's a question about whether originally he was 100% human.
Well, it's an interesting question.
Well, Casey had a psychic grandfather, which I think is interesting.
And when he was playing with him as a child, the grandfather went to give the horse a drink, and the horse reared up and knocked him unconscious.
And he watched the grandfather drive, just drown in that pool.
What is interesting is that grandfather appeared to him after that on a regular basis when he's like four or five years old, and he talks and interacts with this discarnate version of his grandfather.
So.
Casey certainly had this ability as a youth.
He started with it.
Now, in the track of reincarnation of lives that he had, he had achieved great things as Rata in Egypt.
And Rata was a deep mystic.
But when they go into what Rata was all about, and Rata was someone who interacted with the Atlanteans and was part of building the Great Pyramids and all the rest.
But when he talks about Rata's mother, he says she was a daughter of Zu and Zu.
And when speaking of Rata in relationship to this, he says who didn't have a human father.
So we don't know what the implication is there because.
Was there no follow up question?
Hello?
What do you mean?
I think it makes a great study, but there's a lot of unusual.
Things about Rata because he comes from the Caucasus Mountains, and which you know, right between kind of like deep, deep in Iran, which is where the group that he was a part of came from, they came into Egypt.
And then, when they became the ruling power in Egypt, Rata went everywhere.
He spent 20 years in Atlantis, he spent all these years, and he was working to create the Hall of Records and all these things.
Rata becomes a very fascinating.
Character because he gets thrown out of Egypt.
And because of the political strife there, and he goes to Abyssinia.
And there's a whole story there.
And then when we go later into what's Ethiopia, we hear about things like the Ark of the Covenant being there.
I remember when I met Graham Hancock, he told me about the story of going there and meeting the person who had guarded the Ark of the Covenant and how that person had been blinded by it, and that this is still something that they keep.
I mean, it's quite remarkable when you get deep in that story.
But to go back to Casey, Casey is also a piece of, you know, as Blavatsky was, of the mystery schools letting this information out.
But he does have that incredible history in looking at his past lives of psychic development.
One of the most fascinating pieces of that is when he is yolked in his past life and he gets.
Shot by an arrow in the desert, and he's sort of a Persian warrior.
And this is his own recollection in readings about his past life.
And when he is there suffering in the desert, he wills himself out of his body to die to get away from the pain that he's in.
And that ability, when he comes back as Edgar Cayce, he still has the ability to leave his body.
Go get access to the information and come back.
It's like an acquired talent.
And if you understand things on a karmic reincarnation level, you develop a certain trait in one lifetime and you bring it over into another one.
So it is quite fascinating.
You do find a lot of people masquerading, by the way, as Casey's reincarnation, as we know.
There's a lot of jokers.
But you know what I found out when I investigated that is I talked to Edgar Evans Casey, who's Casey's son, who at like 90 years old looked incredibly robust.
And he had said literally that this had always been the thing, that there had always been people around who were pretending to be Casey.
And so I think that it just so happened that, you know, we got them hard and heavy in this period.
But yeah, there's a lot of bozo action out there about these types of things, unfortunately.
But the Casey work, I think, holds the essence of the mystery schools and offers a great key on Atlantis and other things.
For sure.
Yes.
Kontiki Man, did Edgar Casey catch any of the Grand Canyon findings?
He said very interesting things about that area, indicating that the Atlanteans who had left, who had originally gone into the Mayan lands and founded those early cultures, pre Mayan, that they eventually wandered further and went into that area.
He also said that that area was one of the oldest areas that had been above ground.
For humanity, like it had literally been, you know, sort of this, it's kind of a Garden of Eden in a sense, the American version.
So it has that incredible deep history.
But I think that Casey, when he talked about these groups that left Atlantis, the very advanced ones who left on time before the destruction hit, they would create other cultures, like they created a culture in Yucatan, which is where they created the Hall of Records in Yucatan, which is like the one.
That's under the Sphinx.
It is the Atlantean knowledge, the two eyed stone, the firestone knowledge, and how to use it as a spiritual interface.
You know, everyone's been after the technology, but the Amelius group inside Atlantis, there's two groups we have to remember the Belial group, who sought to use the technology to dominate, in Casey's story, they would use it like they would sort of nuke or laser another island or country to take over.
That's the Belial group.
So, they would use the same two eye technology to do these things.
But the Amelia's group used it to communicate with the outer spheres, the higher realms, the spiritual beings.
And so, the equivalent would be you open up your laptop and you're interacting with a spiritual being.
That's how they used the technology.
And Casey had said they prepared priestesses for that.
So, they had the initiates and the priestesses, and they would use the two eye stone to interact directly with the outer spiritual spheres.
That echo, that history of things, they took with them into the Mayan civilization, into the Inca civilization.
But they traveled to that area of the Grand Canyon.
And we have the incredible stories of the mound builders close by.
So certainly the idea that the Egyptian culture made it over and then went to the Grand Canyon should be completely reasonable.
And we could solve these things now.
The archaeology that we are using.
In fact, especially when it comes to Egyptology, it comes from basically the 18th century.
And they have the ability with satellites to look through things now.
So the idea of the way that we have things is actually quite absurd to leave that in place.
When you look at pre dynastic Egypt, it's actually more advanced than regular dynastic Egypt.
How does that work?
Obviously, they saw themselves as a legacy culture of something more advanced.
Yes.
Okay, sorry.
You got me.
I was.
Okay.
Wendy Eater, will the cyber polygon exercise be passed off as an alien invasion next week?
Navy Pilots, Alien Ops, and Media Control00:15:13
They certainly have ops like that.
By the way, that is an Alexander Graham Bell flying one of his tetrahedrons.
Obviously, triangle UFO craft comes to mind.
I think that you could see a lot of that.
This is another article Dr. Bell and his kite.
Does the tetrahedron solve the aerial problem?
That's an interesting one.
What has been achieved?
Distinguished Washington inventor of the telephone devoting his time and money without stint to experiments of the white flyer that can carry four men.
The study of flight in the air has a peculiar charm to one who engages in it.
It's very interesting.
The thing of the question that you just mentioned, there's a lot of different ways that they're measuring things in terms of how they can use an alien or UFO threat op.
One of the things that they've been doing, which I think is, you know, they're saying, oh, you know, the military is saying this, they're coming out with it.
And in fact, a lot of the things that they're showing in terms of video footage, some of the worst footage I've ever seen, so the Corbell footage.
Of these beach balls, and they'll always say, like, swarm Navy ships, you know, it just shows it's like little beach balls, you know, doing nothing.
And so, so much for a swarm.
I would think a swarm would be like lasers coming down on them, and you know.
So, they certainly are capable of faking that.
The thing is, people have been asleep at the wheel on this, and the UFO people who understand it, and like people in the ideas room who have a good understanding of this subject, it's going to be very important for them to tell average people.
How much the government lies in relation to this subject, how much secrecy involved, what the reasons are behind it.
You know, you're going to find yourself really explaining a lot because you know a lot more than average people do about this.
And when I listen to average people say, like, well, you know, David Fravor sounds like he really saw something.
Yeah, of course he did.
I mean, David Fravor, you know, how many Navy pilots have seen things?
You can go back, all of the Blue Book stories are all Navy pilots.
You know, there's tons of Navy pilots that see this stuff.
There's a Japanese pilot in the 80s who looks down and sees a craft that's like five times as big as his that he flies over, and he tries to give that information to his airline, and they fire him because you're not supposed to report it.
So, this is the nature of the thing.
We've been seeing this stuff.
Yes, absolutely.
But if the TTSA and a bunch of CIA people are highlighting UFOs and want you to get to believe in a UFO threat, for all we know, They're doing, remember, Fravor and people like that are seeing these things on training exercises, right?
So they could be, you know, they've been redeveloping the technology, I think, for over 100 years.
Let's just say the typical Roswell period.
So for like 75 years, they've been redeveloping it.
Yeah, they have the ability to freak out their own pilots.
There's no question about it.
So they could easily create something like that.
By the way, the Tic Tac has been looked at by many experts, including Russell Tard, who's on this program, who does a lot of physics experiments related to that.
To aerospace in general.
And he said there's no way that that is what they're presenting it to be.
And also that since it's not actual footage, it is gun camera radar footage, it's very easy to manipulate.
They could manipulate it so easily.
But certainly you could get really good pilots seeing a real UFO.
And, you know, how many times have we been putting those things on the record and telling people about those cases?
Those cases have been out there for hundreds of years.
And now, like, you'll have Elizondo and people like that saying, like, you know, I'm a whistleblower.
I'm letting this stuff out.
Well, you know, get in line.
How many whistleblowers about this stuff, real ones, have come out before they launched a CIA op for God knows what?
You know, so let's get real about it and not pretend that none of this history ever happened.
It's a joke.
They want to say that the TTSA discovered UFOs in 2017.
All right, here's an interesting point, too, when you look at it.
They say it happened.
With the New York Times article, December 17th, 2017.
Okay.
That's the same date that the Wright brothers launched their flight.
So they're obviously using this weird equation in their own way of looking at this.
Like, this is just like the Wright brothers, you know.
And as we know, that story fell apart.
And Elizondo's own story fell apart several times.
He's not who he says he is.
That's for sure.
And he's welcome to come on this program and explain himself.
I'd be happy for a gentleman's debate with him.
Anytime.
But he won't do it because their op depends on not getting asked certain questions.
Those questions will eliminate the op.
It's very simple.
You've invited him on.
Oh, yeah.
You've never heard from them.
They've never reached out to you.
Not on Twitter, not behind the scenes.
No, it's really interesting, too, because they, in their own way, in their own way, They can't, they've set the thing up so that they can't take questions.
It's like Joe Biden, you know, you can't get a tough questioner, you're stuck, you know, because his cognitive ability doesn't allow him to take a question.
So it's like those handlers do it.
So they can't let these people get into a situation.
You know, somebody like Elizondo, still working for the government, right, has his own defense contractor think tank, which he established himself.
So does that make his appearances now on behalf of his company?
Is that advertising?
You know, there's a lot of weird stuff.
There was weird stuff involved with TTSA, with all the CIA people on it, with being $50 million in debt, with all the weird SEC stuff and all the rest of it.
So, besides just the weird op itself, these corporations always have oddities because of the way that they're run.
But whatever it is that they're running with Elizondo, it's very simple CIA, DIA.
Who did Elizondo work for?
He worked for James Clapper.
James Clapper was.
The DNI, Director of National Intelligence.
He worked for John Brennan, CIA Director.
Well, the CIA Directors are all gung ho about UFOs all of a sudden, right?
John Brennan comes out and says, We really need to get to the bottom of this.
And the worst one was Woolsey because he came out and he's trying to peddle the book, which is that Oswald was mind controlled by the Soviets and killed Kennedy because he was under Soviet mind control.
That's how desperate the CIA is to get out of that original crime.
So, you want real disclosure, CIA, admit to your role in the Kennedy assassination.
Then we'll talk about the UFO records that you've been hiding for 75 years.
But to have these UFO directors, CIA directors, it's the same thing, coming out and saying that they're going to give public disclosure and they're going to come up with their own crazy conspiracy theories, right?
They're like, oh, Oswald.
Since nobody believes the official story in the JFK story, they'll come out with this other weird one.
So people will finally say, oh, the CIA gave us disclosure on that.
Thank God.
We don't need to look at the fact that the CIA has blocked those records.
They continue to block the Kennedy assassination records now, 57 years later.
What are you hiding?
So that's where we go.
But the way that they get out of it is co opting.
So in the UFO field, They threatened witnesses.
They eliminated people.
There's strong evidence that they eliminated Kennedy over the UFO issue.
All right.
So that's where they're coming from.
So, therefore, the idea that a bunch of CIA people are going to give you disclosure on the UFO subject is just completely idiotic.
So, that's basically the same op as 9 11 was done by a bunch of guys in a cave with box cutters.
I mean, You know, what are you going to believe?
So, you know, we have to be real about these things.
I don't think there's any more room for, you know, when it comes to the UFO field, like the idea of collaborating with intelligence groups that the CIA is going to give you disclosure and you're going to give that to the public.
I mean, it's completely one of the weird things that Elizondo said is that he wanted to destroy ufology.
It's kind of a weird thing to say.
I mean, you may want to improve it, but you want to destroy it?
That's odd.
I have a verbatim quote written down where he said, It's a very difficult job moving the herd from one side of the prairie to the other.
That's how they think about this.
You're the herd.
They're moving the prairie herd.
Okay.
So I think we need to get very real on the topic and completely, completely blow away the op, smash the op in the UFO field, get rid of that, go back to real ufology.
And let those guys have like the Kardashian UFO specials on TMZ, Fox, you know.
But get back to the real thing.
Completely reject the CIA and NSA involvement in the UFO field.
100%.
Yes.
Can you please talk about the citizens' hearing for disclosure?
Well, they did it in 2013, and they actually created it.
Somebody put up the money, like a million dollars, to do it like a typical congressional hearing, and they had people like Stanton Friedman, the late Stanton Friedman, who got so much of this on the record.
Linda Moulton Howe was there, she testified on her cases, and they ran it like a Senate committee would run it.
To kind of give the government the ability to look at this is what you could do.
But a lot of things came out in that.
That was completely ignored, and the CIA shut it down and stuff because they weren't ready for their up.
In 2015, the CIA released files and they released on Twitter, they said, We were the ones who were behind the UFO sightings in the 50s and 60s.
It was us.
Saying that the whole UFO thing came from them.
A year later, like a year, year and a half later, they're pulling the DeLong.
Thinking Hillary's going to get in, this is our chance to do this weird op.
So, you know, if you check the consistency and statements of what they said, you know, it's completely deceptive.
And that's typical.
And that's what you would expect from CIA and counterintelligence operatives.
It's what they do best.
So, why is there, you know, why do you think the mainstream media that lies to you about the election, lies to you about major events like 9 11, lies to you about The history, like the Kennedy assassination, is going to give you the truth on UFOs.
I mean, they've been denying it and marginalizing those people for decades.
So, you know, and the CIA has done a lot worse.
Careers were destroyed because they didn't want this stuff getting out.
Now they have a way to get it out and they want to create and co opt a vision for it.
And this is what we're looking at.
This is what we're in the middle of.
Yes.
I mean, a lot of those people who presented, pilots and whatnot, are still alive.
Right.
The fact that nobody brings that up.
Yes.
I find very suspicious.
It is.
You know, what's interesting about this is if you go back to the records from like 49, you will see Navy pilots saw this, you know, gigantic thing.
And you'll see the Air Force come in and deny it and say different things about it.
Harry Truman was on the record.
In a press conference saying, yes, the UFOs are flying around.
We don't know what they are, but they don't seem to be a threat to national security.
So that's the way that they dealt with it then.
So the idea that when the New York Times comes around with it, it just means that the CIA has taken the boot off the neck of the average citizen in relation to the subject and said, you can talk about it.
But God forbid, why do they want people talking about the alien thing?
Obviously, they have a reason for that.
And so then you go into what the real reason is.
If you don't understand the deep state pulling the strings on these subjects, then we live in a kind of hall of mirrors about it.
So the first thing is people have done research on that deep state.
Professor Peter Dale Scott has put that information together.
It's there.
The UFO field, you get very educated on that because when you look at it, people know over and over again the Iraq War, the CIA invented the evidence.
9 11, we never got the real story, not even close.
You want to explain all the stock activity in the airlines the next day?
I mean, it's very unusual.
So, in all these deep events, there's another factor moving, and that factor isn't covered by the media because they can't and they're instructed not to.
So, therefore, you're not going to get the truth from them.
That's the past.
Let's look at what we're in now.
Do you think you're getting anything near the truth in relation to COVID or anything of that nature?
So, if anything, The UFO factor and the UFO file and the history that they have with it just shows a complete track record of deception.
So, we don't trust the CIA in relation to the UFO file or the media, frankly.
And, you know, that kind of promotion that they're doing, you know, like let's have this special and that special.
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Well, this is all in preparation for something that they're up to.
I remember seeing a series of articles just before all this stuff started to happen that was linking the UFO thing with climate change and saying, If we had aliens come and tell us about to improve our climate, maybe we would do it, you know.
And they kept raising this like maybe there are aliens out there, and if they were, they would help us with the climate, you know.
So they're cooking up something.
The chefs are at it, yes.
Zach Robinson, sometimes I feel like I'm wasting my time with all of this, but something within me is too strong to give up on knowing.
This is pretty important stuff, but more important than sort of the UFOs, right, is truth.
Just being an empowered citizen.
Being treated like an adult, you know, like a sovereign adult, and not having other, let's just assume they're humans, right, hold truth back from us.
I mean, that is absurd that we should put up with that.
Well, there's reasons for short circuiting your reasoning process, right?
There's a purpose behind shutting down that dialogue.
You remember so many of the things during COVID where you can't meet here, you can't talk in church.
You can't meet in school.
You can't do all these things where you would get together during an election year.
That's really fascinating.
They've never done anything like that.
So you're in a different strata of what their operations are about.
So whatever it is that they're pulling on that deep level, they've now discovered aha, we need to keep people away and not comparing notes during this because we need to be having them think just one particular thing.
And you can't bring up.
You know, certain things in relation to COVID.
You can't bring up certain things in relation to the election, but we really want you talking about UFOs, which, by the way, during the COVID thing, they were really pushing hard.
So anyone who tells you that they're not pushing a UFO op is woefully ill informed because that's really where things are at.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
Great questions in the ideas room.
Miss Olivia, what do you think?
A couple more questions?
Okay, I'm going to throw you this one.
So, Kontiki Man, who's been on fire tonight, where is Bigelow to be placed in card events?
Harry Reid funding, cabal, or personal initiative?
We've heard a few things behind the scenes.
There's a lot of things about Bigelow.
Here's an interesting thing.
He laid off his entire staff in 2020, which I think is unusual.
Obviously, with SpaceX and others ascending, they're holding off on Bigelow.
Bigelow.
In mid 2020, started a near death institute with Leslie Kane.
I found that strange.
It was like a consciousness studies thing.
Again, they're trying to get around these areas and co opt them, and they're using certain people to do that.
And the people involved, like Bigelow, you know, like Bigelow, the idea is that he was going to be this big space pioneer with hotels in space.
But he was funding all of these certain types of UFO research things and skin marker and all the rest.
And all that is well and good.
But it seemed like at a certain point they were looking at how they could pull the op off.
And I think all of these different factions came in and were competing with it.
You know, they said at a certain point, oh, yeah, you know, Harry Reid gave this contract for ATIP to Bigelow.
I mean, it's a weird thing because you're not supposed to give your friends million dollar contracts, right?
But that just kind of slips in there.
And then you're supposed to be getting the truth from people like Senator Harry Reid or Marco Rubio.
And now they're introducing these kind of sketchy congressmen.
So they're slowly but surely bringing them in and saying, you can talk about this.
Here's what you should say.
And here's how we're going to do it.
They're doing that also with the media.
The media doesn't know anything about the UFO file, they're completely ignorant when they talk about it at all.
When they bring people out now, they don't have a dissenter.
So you have somebody come on and talk about UFOs like Nick Pope.
What they would used to do is they would bring out the guy who would put out the big kibosh on everything the person would say, right?
And that was always stupid when they did that.
But it represented that they were like, oh, we need a balance on this.
We have a debunker and we have a regular person.
Now they're promoting, right?
It's a promotion.
Why do these people who don't give the public the truth on crucial issues?
And want to tax people for carbon credits and things like that.
Why do these people want you to buy UFOs in the public, the people who haven't?
Why are they selling them hard like that?
Why are they pushing the threat?
I mean, it is, as I've pointed out before, if we thought the COVID lockdown stuff was unconstitutional, power grab, and psychotic generally, then certainly.
How would they do it with a UFO threat?
I mean, they could really go gangbusters with that.
And that's where I believe they're headed.
I don't think there's any question.
They're up to no good in the nefarious players that we've seen in activity before any of these things happen, before the deep event happens.
Who do we usually see in play?
The intelligence groups.
Iraq war, Iran Contra.
I mean, if you go through it, the intelligence group is always.
It's like the canary in the coal mine.
And so that's what we're looking at.
And I think that it is, you know, it's got like a long term.
They plan to play this out for a while.
I don't think it's something that they plan to do overnight.
Yes.
I was just going to say, you know, you start to feel when you're being lied to, when someone is misrepresenting themselves, and particularly in Washington, you know, that they care or something.
And it gives.
You're really sick feeling in your stomach, and you just like.
I think a lot of people are sort of waking up to it.
I think what's disturbing is the number of people who have been lying for so long, getting away with it.
And I mean, this is the awakening, right?
But it's the I'm sickened by this situation and a feeling growing, a growing intolerance about it.
And it's, you know, it's sort of the feeling of revolution is coming again, right?
It's astrological.
It's, you know, that we really just need to demand better.
This is these mealy mouth liars, you know, are just intolerant.
You mean when you say Marco Rubio, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
When you see him saying the truth is out there.
Oh, God.
You know, you got problems.
I did want to ask you a question.
Yes.
Okay, so Terry Henley before said, Did Gene Roddenberry ever live at the Cosmos Club?
What is his relationship to the Cosmos Club?
Anything there?
You know, it'd be interesting to see if he gave any speeches or lectures there.
There are people who've lived in it.
A lot of CIA people have lived in it, I've noticed.
The thing about the club that Is crucial is that anybody who's anybody has been a part of it in some capacity.
And for me, you know, the idea that presidents want to join, it's interesting because Kennedy was sponsored to join, as I pointed out, and withdrew because they had some kind of racial policy at the time, or it seemed like they did because they didn't let a black reporter in.
But then they relented and did, but Kennedy still never joined.
But he had been sponsored to join.
I find that interesting.
You know, what is it a president could get out of a group like that?
So it must have been, it's like a tradition to be part of the Cosmos Club.
And I think that they've had periods where they've had more influence and less influence.
One of the things I wanted to point out about the Cosmos Club that I didn't get to is that our friend Anthony Fauci was there.
Yeah, this is it.
In 2016, Peter Dezak hosted an event at the exclusive Cosmos Club.
Dr. Fauci was his special guest.
Now, Dezak is from the EcoHealth Alliance, and he got into a lot of trouble by denying that they had anything to do with the Wuhan lab.
But in fact, they had a lot to do with the lab because records came out that proved contradicted everything that he said.
And as a result, the EcoHealth Alliance. You know, really was downgraded dramatically.
It's interesting when we look at this because, again, where is it that these connections are being made?
Where are they presenting these things?
We're at the Cosmos Club.
So you've got the main power players in the COVID crisis now showing up as members or involved with the Cosmos Club.
When we look at it, we're starting to see that there's a big piece here with the Cosmos Club, which has not been.
On our radar.
I think that they've been able to maintain this.
And, you know, this is very true also.
It used to be true with Bilderberg.
There were just a couple of good reporters who were all over Bilderberg.
And everybody else was like, doesn't exist.
There's no cover up and all the rest of it.
And then what happened was Hillary Clinton took time to go to a Bilderberg meeting and she was followed there.
And it started to get out that she was at a Bilderberg meeting because anyone who's anyone who became a presidential contender had to be.
At Bilderberg at some point.
So you couldn't get in without having gone to Bilderberg.
So when we look at the Cosmos Club, we're looking at something similar, but it's in like a pre disclosure period.
It's like there were a few people in the 70s who understood about Bilderberg, but by 2000, it was really well understood.
And I think the Cosmos Club has a similar thing to it.
I think that they've had real periods of incredible power.
And in relation to the UFO file, I think the secrecy was able to build there secretly inside that institution.
Yes.
Kat Goida, did the infamous Seance 9 ever meet at the Cosmos Club?
For that matter, any seances there that you know of?
No, but I mean, as we look at it, like speeches in the 60s on ETs being here by NSA professionals, I mean, we're learning a lot about this club.
That's what's still on the record.
You can only imagine.
You know, someone raised the possibility that they could start to scrub this stuff off the web now that we've uncovered it.
But I think that, you know, there's too much.
There's a lot of stuff that's already out there in relation to it.
And there's a lot of time machine style ability.
So I don't think we're in any real danger of that.
We'll take two more questions.
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There's no marketing really with it at all, but it keeps you in the loop.
And let me tell you, the censorship is heavy duty, in case you haven't noticed.
And so it's always better if we have that connection.
We'll take a couple more questions.
And then we will sign off for the night.
Yes.
Shelby Cobra earlier said, What continents are on that logo?
I don't recognize them, the islands.
Could you hold up the logo again?
I don't know where it is.
It's down in the bottom of the pile.
Someone else did point out to me that there were other, it looked like they could be looking at a different planet.
But I think it, you know, certainly the logo is available online and we can look at it.
One thing I wanted to point out, since I have some shots that I didn't use here.
This is a shot of the Arrow Club in America.
And oddly enough, it has a very similar logo to our friends at the Cosmos Club.
We've got the globe here, surrounded by clouds, and then there's some wings here.
The globe, clouds, and wings is exactly what we see in the logo for the Cosmos Club.
So.
We know that Bell was a major piece of the Aero Club and of the Cosmos Club, and he may be the intermediary between those two.
It's very interesting to me that the globe inside of clouds is a similar visual representation.
Another piece for you on Bell.
You know, we talk a lot about time capsules in this program.
Apparently, Alexander Graham Bell had experiments and inventions that he thought were too advanced for the time, and so he put them in time capsules and eventually.
They came out, and this one says the formal signing of these items that were put by Alexander Graham Bell and Associates in the secret archives of the Smithsonian Institute in 1881.
Among these items found was the original working model for the first machine ever to record and was to reproduce a human voice.
And there is the shot of Bell's family looking at that.
Time capsule across time.
Certainly, these people leave these things.
And in relation to the disclosure that we're seeing now, whether it was Nixon's time capsule or Eisenhower's X time capsule or the Johnson X letter and things of this nature, all of those presidents want their role known when this stuff comes out of what they did in relation to the UFO file.
That's why the Merritt story and the Nixon aspect around hiding that information in a time capsule echoes.
I think through all the things that we're seeing.
Yes.
Contiki Man says, can he put them up next to each other?
I think the logos to compare, right?
I don't know what the other logo is.
But I do find that.
Oh, I'll show you this.
This is an early German one of these kind of graphs up one type things.
There's a lot of ex steganography on the ones that they show.
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I found that interesting.
I didn't research it enough to see if it was actually related, but the visual struck me certainly.
One other thing I wanted to get in before the show was over was that there's a story in here that says, Did the aliens visit Surrey?
And I found this article interesting.
When I was trying to print it out, this thing came out on top of it which says, The vaccine is safe and effective.
There she is.
Hey, hey.
Glad to see it.
Glad to know that that vaccine is so safe and effective.
But what it says is that records exist as early as 1893 of people in this region seeing unexplainable things in the skies.
There were so many, in fact, that George Fawcett, son of Canadian immigrant and founder of Mount Ayres First National Bank, Thomas Fawcett, developed a passion for investigating such reports.
His research details that for many years 1947, 52, 62, 81, and 95 and, of course, the cluster of two dozen UFO reports from 73 and 74 in Surrey County.
He spent a lifetime on the hobby, published books, spoke internationally, and submitted his research and exhibits to both the International UFO Museum at Roswell and the Smithsonian, Washington, D.C. In 1897, hundreds of people were out on the streets and wars at night looking at a brilliant floating mass in the heavens to the west of the city, reported the Wilmington, North Carolina Messenger on April 6th.
Reported across the continent and globally for months leading up to the date.
Some speculated the ships were from Mars, others that they were grand inventions being tested.
It seemed to have something like a searchlight facing earthwards and created a sensation among all classes of people, the story continued.
The ship moved to the west at a rapid rate.
There's more of that airship activity.
West, apparently, to Surrey County, where the Mount Airy News picked up the ship's progress on April 8th.
Quote, airships are seen in the heavens somewhere nearly.
Some were seen nearly every night.
A big one with a searchlight passed over Wilmington Monday night, creating much stir among the people.
Our citizens mistook the airship when it passed over Mount Airy for a big meteor.
It was a searchlight they were looking at in real earnest time.
It seems to us something unusual is happening constantly.
What does it all mean?
I thought that was interesting.
Again, those early reports fascinate me because I think where we can round off this entire episode is it.
It's saying that the Cosmos Club may well be the key to a much earlier period of this type of development.
And there's human airship development, but there's also recovered ET technology.
And when you put the Grand Canyon emphasis in with Powell, the incredible relationship he had with the Paiutes and the whole Wavoka aspect of the Paiutes, then I think we're looking at something that's simultaneously supernatural, ancient, and represents a futuristic technology.
So that's kind of my conclusion at this point.
And it seems like.
The Cosmos Club was the absolute center for this activity.
And that's why those scientists and everyone were so drawn in to join John Wesley Powell on this great venture forward into a new frontier of science and understanding, which related to our ancient past and our relationship to off world civilizations and the technology that may come as a result of that.
So, this is where this research is going.
And thank you so much for the comments and the questions and the ideas from tonight.
Unbelievable.
So, would you like to encourage the crowd to do their own research on this?
Yeah, well, absolutely, always.
And what's fascinating about this is people who are involved, who have been writing me, whose family were involved with the Cosmos Club, or some relative or some friend or some experience that they had, very interested in hearing about those things, no matter how trivial.
So, please, I do encourage you.
You can email me at djdarkjournalist.com.
I will be looking forward to seeing those.
I think there's so much to be learned about the Cosmos Club.
I think it's an important lens that we can find a great deal out about, and it's an important discovery in the things that we're looking at going forward with the X series.
Absolutely, especially in the middle of this UFO, the false UFO mayhem that's been going on.
We know that UFOs are real.
We know that off world cultures certainly are real.
The information shows it, the great history of people who've gone through.
Those abduction experiences, the incredible history of other human beings who've been seeing these things.
Let's not forget, they'll talk about, well, this Navy pilot, that Navy pilot.
Those people have been giving us this information for a long time.
And it's to their credit that they've gone through these experiences.
We can learn a great deal from them.
Think of Gordon Cooper.
He went on the record saying, well, not only did they follow us, but they followed us information.
All right.
So he's talking about the 1940s and 50s.
Okay, we have all this stuff all the way back to the Foo Fighters.
You know, it's more about us getting the answers and having the transparency around it rather than playing some game that this weird CIA group, you know, with the New York Times is going to pretend that UFO, you know, the UFO reality started in 2017 based on some, and the reports from 2004, let's not forget.
So, you know, we just have to create an entirely different foundation.
For dealing with these things.
And so it's going to break off.
There's going to be that kind of flipped out weirdo stuff.
It was funny because I saw that George Knapp was interviewing someone, and I went to look to see if he was doing like a UFO interview on something.
And he was interviewing Stormy Daniels.
You know why?
She has a paranormal show called Spooky Babes.
I was like, I see where this is going.
All right.
The whole field is going to become TMZ.
All right.
So I don't want anything to do with that.
Thankfully, like the work that we do, I'm so fascinated by the UFO thing.
But this is not a UFO show.
So we don't have to lump in with that circus that they're doing there.
We can get to the real UFO file information, which is loaded with some of the most fascinating experiences.
And it's such a key aspect of the work we do here for the X Steganography series because the UFO file is what resides inside of it the X technology.
The X technology is absolutely.
Earth shattering in terms of our paradigm.
And it doesn't only relate to technology that's been discovered in the last hundred years.
It relates to things that have been maintained by the mystery schools that come from ancient times.
So, you know, we can go back and just look at Tesla's work.
Well, so much of that is still little understood.
That's all X technology.
So we have different places where this stuff is showing up.
And we don't lock ourselves in the way that, you know, somebody like Nick Pope.
Is going to do going around and saying, you know, I represented the Ministry of Defense and I got these records out from the Ministry of Defense.
Look, that's very low level stuff.
You know, you're talking about sightings and, you know, possibly experimental aircraft, the things that they would let out, anything important, I'm sure they would have blacked out the majority of anyway.
So I don't want anything to do with that.
I actually feel that real UFO disclosure can come from.
You know, if we talk here in the ideas room about sightings that we've had, if we have our own footage, if we know people who've had experiences, if we talk about it.
When I met Charlie Fultz and he talked about his experiences, I felt richer for that experience.
I felt like I understood it better.
It had nothing to do with Lou Elizondo.
Did Lou know if there were bodies?
He raised his eyebrows, you know.
I mean, don't trivialize the whole thing when you're going into it.
That's like, you know, you might as well just get the latest video game if you want to do that with it.
The subject can enrich your life, you know, and there's great experiences that have happened with it and great mysteries associated with it.
So I'm sure we can get to those things together.
And that's what we're doing here on this program, which I think makes it notable that we do that.
You know, I have to say, I think that this is something special where, you know, in our case, the audience of the show is just as advanced as the topic.
And it makes a big difference.
So I really appreciate that from you guys.
I have one last question to ask.
Okay, yes.
Okay, David Gilker.
Has the CIA ever tried to recruit you, DJ?
I'm sure that they have.
No, they haven't.
This is the funny thing if we laugh about this, is that DJ has been so properly profiled, they don't even bother asking.
They don't even try.
Exactly.
I feel that, you know, what it is, when it comes to intelligence stuff, I think that there are diminishing returns when it comes to, you know, if you're out for the truth on this, It's very tricky for them.
And people associated with the task force have tried to pretend they were going to give me information.
So I had no interest in that.
I didn't want to see the beach balls and become the guy who talks on TV about how beach balls attack a Navy destroyer.
But the problem with the intelligence aspect of this is the CIA has this long history of deception.
They have their own agenda for things and they tend to use people and discard them.
So, a lot of the people, even that they get involved with who think, oh, something good is happening with my career, they'll discard them too when they don't need them.
This is the nature of how they operate.
So, my feeling about them is that it's not even worthwhile working with them because the idea is that by nature, what they're doing, they're trying to spin a narrative when they're working that way, which is what we created them for internationally.
You know, they were supposed to go over there and create false stories so that we would be, you know, they would propagandize countries and things like that.
And every country has some kind of counterintelligence arm.
But the thing that these guys have ballooned into has distorted society dramatically.
And if anything, they need dramatic, dramatic reform.
As they stand, they're an extra constitutional force in the country.
They are not envisioned in the constitution and they act in an extra constitutional way.
Fashion.
If anything, I would like to see all of those powers curtailed.
And, you know, the NSA and the CIA need to be investigated dramatically and reformed dramatically so that they adhere to constitutional judicial principles inside the United States where they're not even supposed to be operative.
They're not supposed to be able to monitor our communications.
So think of it that way.
Yes.
Jack, Jack, DJ, not in a bad offensive way, but if you would work for CIA, you could be the best of the best of the best.
You can only imagine what a real UFO intelligence unit could do trying to suss this out and sharing that knowledge with the public.
You could get tremendous results.
And I have to say that the X share types that have been out there I think of people like Thomas Thompson Brown, John F. Kennedy, Morris Jessup these were people who wanted to understand the information and then move it forward.
Output transcript Out to the public and move the culture.
That's very worthwhile.
John Mack, it's a complete X share personality.
And unfortunately, the regressive, we don't need regressive aliens.
We've got regressive humans who would block you from understanding those types of things.
So it's going to be a very interesting ride with all this.
I literally see that, you know, if you want the truth around the UFO file, you're going to have to go in a completely different direction.
And work with the cases, work with the sightings, work with understanding the deep state manipulation of the topic.
That will definitely get you to a much deeper place in relation to the subject.
And there are great people out there.
Somebody mentioned that there are no great psychics anymore.
Look in your midst that you have Gigi Young.
Remarkable, remarkable information that she can do and peer into on that psychic level.
On the financial side, the deep state side, the big picture side, You know, the information of Catherine Austin Fitz, where in history have you found, you know, that kind of incredible information?
Dr. Joseph Farrell, you know, I mean, Alexandra Bruce of Forbidden Knowledge TV, there's dynamic, fascinating people available right now.
And the only thing we need to do is get behind them and help them continue their efforts.
And, you know, I'm always trying to present information so that people can feel good about supporting our efforts here on this show as well.
So that's where we're coming from.
But yes, we are surrounded by great talent, and we just need to bring it forward, more will be attracted into the kind of work that we do.
More fascinating people will come out and talk to us.
Look at the interview with John Warner, which I've linked in this.
John Warner IV, whose dad was John Warner, the senator, and whose mother was Catherine Mellon, of the Mellon Banking Fortune, that's a lot of information that he can give, and it's a lot that he gave out.
And he also was warning people about his cousin, Chris Mellon, pulling a false UFO threat with the sketchy Elizondo character.
That's valuable.
You know, that's the kind of information we want to bring forward in this program.
These are the things that you and I can do together to move this subject.
And it's much more important than some beach balls attacking a Navy ship that's being cooked up by the CIA so they can get some kind of a threat thing going, either to lock citizens down further or to create a whole new funding corridor.
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For drug running, you know, I don't want any part of it.
I mean, those people, if anything, you know, will expose the op because they're coming in so obviously to the UFO field.
So, if anything, reasonable researchers will expose that and will not participate or cooperate with it.
I think it's becoming very obvious who's cooperating and who's not.
Well, great question, though.
And it is interesting.
I mean, we are surrounded by all kinds of CIA, intelligence, NSA, they're all different levels of intelligence.
And then there's foreign intelligence because, you know, the Chinese are infiltrating so much.
They have their own intelligence services.
Iran has its own intelligence service.
Israel has its own intelligence service.
So you don't even know who you're dealing with often.
We can't attribute it all the problems just to one intelligence group.
So, you know, we're surrounded by this whole thing.
And the best part of it is they themselves, these groups, back off.
If the conditions aren't right.
So, if you and I are too aware of a false flag around a UFO alien invasion, for example, you know, if Carol Rosen has come out and given us that information about Von Braun and said, well, you know, he told us this is how it would go.
And if we broadcast that message and get people to remember that, it makes it uncomfortable for groups that want to do that.
And pull off those types of ops.
Yes.
Oh, I don't have another question for you.
Oh, good.
I thought we were wrapping up.
Are we at the rent?
Okay, well, fantastic.
How about then you want to do some shout outs?
I do.
I want to thank everybody.
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Fantastic.
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We have fantastic episodes coming up for you for July off the charts.
And we will be back, of course, next Friday with some very interesting new material for you as well.
And with that, Ms. Olivia, what do you got?
What are the chances that you're going to turn this into a documentary?
Yeah, well, I'll tell you, there's a tremendous amount of material that is opening up.
And I get by with a little help from my friends, right?
It's those people coming forward and giving me things in relation to this is very helpful as well.
So, The Cosmos Club, look, I have pieces of it that I'm verifying, but if all my suspicions pan out, we're going to be looking at a real earthquake in all of this material.
So, you know me, I don't do a lot of pumping things up in relation to these subjects.
I'm really cautious about the material I get, but I think there's something quite dramatic involved with the history of the Cosmos Club.
And like some of those facts that we gave you tonight, we'll be bringing more of those forward for you.
So, with that, Miss Olivia, thank you.
Bravo.
Bravo, Miss Olivia.
Nicely done.
I'm going to do some shout outs too because it's just great to see everybody.
I still have a lot of information from this episode I want to get to.
I can't even say that one.
Wally Tango Foxtrot.
I like that.
Von Braun.
Yes.
Well, He's out there.
He left us with some kind of a dual legacy.
There's no question about it.
Les Scott, Harry Honekin, Hunkinen.
Yes, there we go.
Frank Munday, it's great to see you, sir.
Najat, hey, it's great to see you out there.
Scarlet Fire, what's next?
Are you kidding?
Just wait.
You won't believe it.
We can wait.
Please tell us more.
Well, Catherine is coming up in July.
Oh, certainly.
Catherine, GG.
Incredible.
Phenomenal lineup.
Some big surprises there too.
Bethany Green, it's great to see you.
Steiner to God, yes, sir.
Space Ghost, awesome show.
Brenda Fisher, thank you.
I really appreciate it.
It's great to have you here.
Cell, World Change, Wolf Mother, fantastic.
And I know that Kat Goida was out there.
Really appreciate seeing you as well.
Kate, if you're watching, it's great to see you.
Scarlet Fire, Fantastic.
Astral Lobster.
That has to be a great name.
I haven't seen that one.
I know Chrissy was out there.
It's great to see you, Chrissy.
Michael Gale.
Johnny Dazzle.
Jack Jack.
Now we're talking.
Man in the Mirror.
I like that.
It's a great name.
Fantastic.
What a great crowd we had with us tonight.
Outstanding.
We will see you next week.
Have a fantastic July 4th.
It's going to be a tremendous celebration of getting over the insanity of the freaks that we have in charge.
And hopefully, eventually, we can remove the bizarre regime that's been installed.
But in the meantime, we'll remember those incredible principles that brought America into place in the first place.
We will see you all next week.
And thank you so much for joining us.
Catherine Harris always says Roosevelt Media.
Happy to see you, sir.
Astro Sam.
Wow.
Great crowd tonight.
Thanks so much.
We'll see you next week, everyone.
Okay.
Thanks, everybody.
Bye bye.
They're coming fast and furious.
Tessa1111.
Contiki Man.
Have a great night, everyone.
And you know, it says end broadcast, but after all, it never really ends.