Gigi Young reveals a surge in UFO consciousness, arguing that recent disclosures like the Vatican's stone baby Jesus and Mars base claims signal a coordinated shift replacing elections with advanced spiritual paradigms. She contrasts external threat narratives with an esoteric view of ETs as interdimensional Atlantean allies, warning that figures like Elon Musk operate from low vibrational frequencies pushing synthetic hive minds via Neuralink. The discussion critiques modern activism as neurotic self-soothing while urging individuals to pursue sovereignty and intentional communities to navigate the split between a destructive "beast system" and organic evolution before the eighth sphere of trauma compresses divergent timelines. [Automatically generated summary]
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The Atlantis Disclosure Narrative00:11:31
Hello, everyone.
This is Dark Journalist with an exclusive interview with esoteric researcher and intuitive coach Gigi Young on UFO consciousness and Mystery School revelations.
Gigi, it's great to see you.
Oh, thank you for having me back.
You, back in December, were covering a lot of the mysterious things that were happening that we were seeing going on.
For example, the Israeli space chief who came out and was retired and said, Actually, we have a base on Mars and there are aliens watching us, and we have deals with them not to disclose that.
Trump wanted to disclose it when he was president, but they said, no, you know, don't do it.
Unusual stories like this now seem almost commonplace.
And you've been starting to develop analysis along the lines of they're trying to prepare us for something, but it's on their terms and with their narrative.
Oh, absolutely.
December was a really big month for.
This quiet disclosure that was going on.
We had that Hay Mashad who came forward with that sort of announcement.
It was information that we all knew that whistleblowers have been saying for years, but he just kind of came out and just beat the drum for a while and then kind of retracted a lot of it later.
But it stayed in the media for a good three weeks in its entire narrative.
And then they started kind of walking things back a little bit after they probably gathered their data or whatever.
And then we have this really bizarre scene with the Vatican, the Vatican nativity scene.
So, they roll out the Vatican nativity scene, and it's the most bizarre thing anybody's ever seen.
It's literally like, you know, here's like a kind of like a stone baby Jesus, and he has like a red towel thrown over him because he's in the womb.
And then you have what looks like a skull helmet on another one.
And then you have what looks like an astronaut with the hat and the tubing and everything.
And so, everybody was saying it was, you know, the Christmas astronaut, and it got really weird there.
There were a couple more things that happened, the monolith happened.
As well.
And so December was a really, really huge time.
We didn't really notice it though.
We didn't notice that there was all of these little things going on because we were so focused on the election and politics and COVID that we just sort of were taking in all of this space information and all of this disclosure information.
We were just accepting it, just kind of taking it in.
And I think that's one of the biggest themes that we're not really talking about enough.
Is the reality that there is so much space and disclosure stuff going on behind the scenes that if we didn't have COVID 19 and we didn't have an election, we would be going on and on and on about how fast this is moving, including, you know, Musk's rocket launches and increasing talks about colonizing Mars and moving towards Mars.
It's just there's this huge space rush and disclosure rush that is totally paralleling all of this.
More mundane level of drama, which is important, like with the election, COVID 19, but right behind the scenes, disclosure is nipping at its heels.
And what is happening is that we're getting more and more conditioned into thinking about things in a certain way.
And then there will come a time where that disclosure narrative comes forward.
It will come forward.
And why this is so significant for all of us to understand is that it has a potential to supplant the culture that we have now.
We think that having an election that wasn't orchestrated properly is a big deal.
Now we're talking about actually potentially getting rid of that system entirely because we're exposed to so much advanced technology and a new spiritual paradigm because there's these crazy ETs that could come forward or savior elements could come forward and affect religion.
At that point, it kind of has this potential to supplant everything that we know and everything that we have now very, very, very quickly.
And that's why we have to keep talking about this and taking this narrative back, asking the right questions.
And even going into, as you've called it on your show, deep consciousness studies, so that we can discern and understand and be ready for these very large conversations that we're almost being hypnotically induced for through various stages of trauma, through politics, and also the medical tyranny that we're experiencing.
Wow.
Yeah, that's really.
There's this incredible, like, video game mentality around all of these UFO disclosure things.
Saw those groups on Twitter and other places just going around and treating it like it was some kind of a video game where they needed to guess the characters.
Oh, I know.
I see.
It's a really good example.
I just see that, and I, it's like we're so unprepared.
We don't know how to deal with it.
We don't know how to process this because the development of our space technology and our advanced technology has been privatized.
And so, you know, we went to the moon and then all of that technology just conveniently disappears.
Or we, you know, whether we went to the moon or not, that was the narrative, right?
And then suddenly it disappears and it's privatized.
And so there's one group or a few groups that have all of this information that have been doing it for what, 60, 70 years?
More than that, maybe.
And then the rest of society is woefully behind and has no idea what to do with it because the only times they ever interact.
Their brain with this information is through movies or through video games.
And so that's what they respond with, is they have no exposure to it really otherwise, you know, because it's been purposefully hidden so that it can be perhaps shockingly revealed.
Right, absolutely.
And we get into a whole trivial thing about it.
Even the Monoliths, which was that big story that was breaking, and you and I talked about and have over the past couple of years.
The idea of false monuments being planted to be discovered to give us this whole backstory that doesn't exist.
Whereas the mystery school tradition gives us that whole Atlantean Lemurian story, and that's supported by so much of ancient Egyptian art and the Mayan records and all the rest.
But this was almost like let's create a false, just like they have the false alien thing oh, there's a false alien threat, there's a UFO threat, we need all this funding to deal with these aliens.
It seems to me that now they're playing around with a couple of different things.
You know, they're playing around with the idea, as you've said before, of kind of like fake Atlantean disclosure.
So, can you talk about that a little bit?
Yes, exactly.
Because I think that that's actually really how we have to view.
There's several different corrections, I would say, that maybe we need to take in regards to viewing ETs.
And one is to begin to see them as interdimensionals.
So these are interdimensional beings.
They're not necessarily even from a different planet, or the planet that they're from is not necessarily completely separate or different than Earth.
They're actually shifting different dimensions and they're shifting through time.
This is a very, very important thing that we have to grasp because right now we're seeing this idea that ETs are external from some kind of faraway world, and this really takes our power away.
And this is part of the false disclosure narrative, which is to think that there are, is to kind of take away our history from us.
And it's not clear that they don't actually believe these things themselves and that.
They probably believe these things themselves and they're maybe misinformed, but we have had high cultures on earth before.
Many, many, many high cultures on earth before.
And we, yes, and you've talked about this with Edgar Cayce's work, which is the most prolific psychic to date on Atlantis.
He talks about, you know, UFOs moving through walls and going under the sea and connecting with this collective crystalline technology that is harnessed by the sun.
And so we have to realize that that's us.
That's not, this technology is human.
And it's connected to our Earth and it's connected to us.
And so what happens is we start to see this really kind of disclosure narrative, but it's kind of really an Atlantean narrative.
Really.
If we really, really think about it, it really is kind of, it's kind of just the disclosure of Atlantis.
Right.
And so that's a really good way to think of it.
The other thing about Atlantis that ties into the monoliths that we were just talking about is that Atlantis used an obelisk monolith system for their power grid, their sort of psychic power grid that they used.
It has been carried through many different temple cultures over time, and it has to do with obviously positive, negative, And the phallus and the pools.
It's the same temple principle that we see over and over and over again.
And so when we see a monolith appear, we can laugh about it and we can say this is a hoax or this is a prank or like this is funny.
But what we're really seeing is we're seeing an ancient technology.
It's no different than seeing a more modern technology being revealed.
It's, you know, even the energy of stones, as we know with pyramids and whatnot, are extremely powerful.
And so, all of these monoliths popping up, we have to understand that this is a technology, it's a spiritual technology, and it is an Atlantean, Lemurian spiritual technology and a vestige really of our history.
Yes, that's a really good point, actually.
And the monoliths are almost like representative.
One of the things that bothered me about them and their frequent reports that came out all of a sudden.
Is that the media loved these stories so much?
You know, the media loves to hide anything that's important.
So the fact that they were really into it, I knew that they were promoting it as part of the hey, think about this instead, you know?
True.
There is the whole story about Buzz Aldrin and how he was saying that they found one of these monoliths on Phobos, which is one of the moons of Mars.
Tesla's Esoteric Knowledge00:07:38
So he went on the record with it and then.
You know, it was one of those things where people panicked when he said it, but he was aware of it, and um, so this is definitely something that's operational.
Recently, they let out some of Tesla's papers scientifically, it was just him talking about experiences that he had.
And one of the things he was talking about was getting this series of communications from Mars in the late 1899 period.
And he said, You know, it was remarkable to me because when the signals were coming in, I knew that they were conscious, intelligently controlled signals.
And it scared me because I thought I'm the only person communicating with aliens.
But who was on Mars sending him signals at that time?
Right.
And people thought exactly.
And he was certain they were from Mars.
Somehow he was able to nail it down that it was from Mars.
And I think Tesla had a lot of esoteric knowledge.
And I think that that is really what drove Nikola Tesla.
And one of the things I think that we may also need to correct our.
Perspective or flip it into an esoteric perspective to understand space is that planets just aren't rock.
They're just not kind of like these randomly formed pieces of rock or minerals that you can just kind of mine or, you know, do whatever you want with.
Who knows?
The mystery.
It's not, it's a mystery, but it's not so mysterious because every planet has a distinct connection with Earth.
And each other, and they represent a specific time in humanity.
So, Mars represents, Mars is not just a planet, it represents a certain level of consciousness in humanity, but also a certain time of humanity.
And you could also take it a little bit further and say that there's an aspect of ourself that is pinging with Mars, that is stored in Mars.
And this is also the same with Venus and with Jupiter.
And we can see this in Steiner's work when he aligns the different spheres in order.
You know, why would he do that?
Or why would theosophists align them in a specific order like that?
Why not just randomly put them wherever you want?
Well, because they represent certain phases of consciousness.
And that doesn't just disappear because we're seeing them in a physical form, it just doesn't exist in the higher realms.
And so when we see people, yeah, so it's there's a whole, and even you could even look at it this way every single planet exists within ourselves.
There is an aspect of ourselves that is that planet, and when we are doing psychic work, when a psychic is doing psychic work, they are pinging with those planets.
Some psychics will ping more with Mars or whatever, they'll bypass them entirely and have a different perspective on Mars.
It depends on what your relationship is with that planet and that energy, which would be related to past lives and future lives.
It gets very esoteric because time disappears, right?
But to make a long esoteric story short, these are extremely.
Powerful bodies that when Tesla was communicating with it, he knew that Mars was a very specific place in the psychic circuitry of humanity.
He knew that, and he understood that it was a specific time in humanity as well.
And so he was using the circuitry of the stars, and I believe that's why he also received Mars first, is because there are certain energies that are more relevant.
To us, because of certain energies that the earth is holding now through resonance.
And so I think he maybe knew a little bit more about that than he was saying.
Oh, absolutely.
It's fascinating.
You and I did a classic X series episode on the Steiner planetary seals.
Yes.
And Steiner discussed in depth how, in occult literature, they had switched Mercury with Venus, and that the switch took place somewhere around the ninth century.
But if you went back before that, then what we would know as Venus was actually Mercury.
So the setup of the planets is actually a mystery to us.
We understand them.
From a physical standpoint to a certain degree, the gravitational movements and things of this nature.
But the deeper esoteric principle for why, for example, a mystery school would make large scale moves to prevent the ordinary society and scientific minds from knowing that Mercury was actually Venus and Venus was Mercury.
What does that tell us about the kind of system that is actually in operation around them?
The esoteric system or the political system.
I would think the esoteric system, yeah.
Yeah, well, the esoteric system is always evolving and changing just like we are.
Right.
And so in Steiner's work, Cosmic Memory, he also talks about the appearance of the sun and the moon and how planets actually form and kind of come into being.
And we don't think of planets like that.
We think that they're just there and they've always been there.
Yes.
And this kind of also leans a little bit into Velikovsky.
And his world in chaos, which he got a lot of trouble for.
Yeah.
And when we realized that from the scientific community, they did not want to think that maybe us and the planets are in one big evolutionary phase together, growing together.
And the planets are actually storing data and information right alongside of us as we grow.
And they swing into times of life and they swing out of life.
And we don't realize how totally interlaced we are with the cosmos and that the sun will change again and a new spectrum of light will come and we will have a different sun and new planets will form.
And our materialist perspective has divorced us from looking at things in this long form.
But if we're going to become a space bearing culture and we're going to start directly interacting with these planets, maybe we should know exactly what they represent to us because it's incredibly deep.
They're the structures that actually also vibrationally hold reality together.
Absolutely.
We were very well aware of the fact that the ancient cultures and their spiritual teachers revered places where.
Comets would hit.
And as a matter of fact, some of the really famous things like the Serpent Mountain, Ohio, and other sacred stone sites are on these magnetic lines.
And the reason those lines are there is because of these comets have hit.
Splitting Timelines and Realities00:11:32
What kind of a correlation is that?
I mean, is it a kind of a holy experience when a comet collides with Earth and blasts?
Yeah.
Oh, it's absolutely a holy experience.
It's a whole new idea, it's a whole new concept coming in.
It could even represent a being coming in or a certain consciousness of beings coming in.
It's a very big deal.
Right.
Yeah.
And even, I think, Mecca.
Is Mecca not.
Yes, an asteroid, yes, and they like to call it Venus.
I can't remember if that's the one, if it's Mecca or not, but they collect these comets and it's a big deal, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And they're often magnetic, and yeah, well, and the Mayans worshipped you know these things.
What we see in the past two years is this incredible proliferation of fireballs, and uh.
Heavily concentrated in that hot zone area around Puerto Rico to Venezuela, you know, really seeing incredible activity there.
And a lot of them surviving to the point where they actually crash intact and cause fires, whereas they usually burn up in the atmosphere.
We know one recently, just a couple of years ago in Russia, took place where it came in at such a magnitude that had it actually struck the ground, it would have been like setting off five nukes.
So these things are happening.
And, um, It seems like they're just in the flow of things.
Like, you know, we hear about this fireball, that fireball, but the incredible uptick of activity.
What I'm trying to piece together on this is do these people who are, you know, like the kind of World Economic Forum types, those who are trying to control the world now and do the whole lockdown thing with COVID and put in this DNA experimental vaccine on everybody, you know, these people know a lot about deep space.
And do they know that something is coming in here?
And are they setting themselves up by already kind of putting the population into this kind of almost enslavement lockdown?
Because they know that these changes are coming in and they want to, when those changes hit, they just want to be well positioned.
They know that something's coming.
There's no question.
There's been so much coordination, so many people.
Plans, so many like run throughs of various different things, so many CEOs stepping down, land being purchased, all these different projects.
There's been so much going on with these globalist types that it's clear that something's going on or that they believe that something's going on.
And it's also, we're also living in a highly prophesied time.
You know, the Bible talks about this.
So many psychics have come forward and pinned this time as being an extremely significant time for humanity.
And I think that the thing about the globalist types is they're very fear oriented, I would say.
It's all about might is right.
Clearly, they're wanting to own everything while we can just have nothing and be happy.
Right.
You know?
And so they're not.
Ownership of everything.
Yeah.
Like, they're just wanting.
Yeah.
Basically, that's basically slavery.
Let's be honest and call it for what it is.
You want to own something, you should be able to own it.
You know, one guy just like Scrooge McDuck just hoards everything in his house and then just gives it to you if you're good.
Like, this is ridiculous.
But so these people are not for humanity.
That's not a loving thing to do.
Not loving to hoard all of the resources of the world and then dole it out, you know.
And so this does not, why this is significant, why the condition of their consciousness being might is right and survival of the fittest is significant is because.
It doesn't line them up for getting very accurate information about the future.
So, yeah, you have, and if you want to, in the time of the quickening which we are in, in which more cosmic light is, you know, coming to the earth, we had the Jupiter Saturn conjunction, which created a very strong Christ consciousness stream for humanity.
Yes.
Yeah.
And so we have this Christ consciousness returning and coming back in full force.
And if you are looking at that psychically, Even if you're using technology and you are of a low vibrational frequency, you are going to see your own destruction and you are going to see destruction and you are going to see very negative things or very dark things because you're going to see yourself reflected back to you because that's pretty much what psychic work is.
If you want to get beyond the astral plane, you have to get beyond the mirror realm.
You know, that's with Alice going into the mirror.
You have to be able to get through your image yourself.
And they're not, if you're in that consciousness, you're not even close to that.
So, I think that they're looking psychically and they're using various technologies to maybe see, and they're seeing something that's quite disastrous or that's quite scary.
But I would also add that, you know, the average person, as they receive this energy and this Christ consciousness, that may not be what's authentically true, right?
So, we can't just automatically assume that whatever the sort of darker factions in the world see is going to be automatically what is true for us.
It's just not the case.
There are two very distinct consciousnesses forming on the planet today, and they are going to have different futures.
They're going to have different realities.
Like we've spoken about Rudolf Steiner and the eighth sphere and that lower world that is created, and then the upper world, which is also in the Hopi prophecy of the two paths everywhere.
And so we can't automatically assume that what they are seeing is.
What will happen to us?
We don't have a shared future in that sense.
We do in a way in this life, but there's also a level of this where there is a splitting of timelines.
Well, this is interesting because Steiner, in talking about New Jupiter and the evolutionary step that is supposed to take place, the idea of the eighth sphere is this artificial realm, an artificial step in our evolution that Armand.
This kind of negative entity that Steiner identifies, which is basically the devil, but very active through technology in the 21st century, sets up this artificial evolutionary track in the eighth sphere.
But what's supposed to happen is actually a new Jupiter, which is the new Earth in essence, that's in development.
And then the soul wave is moving toward that.
That's the natural step.
And in the middle of all that, Steiner talks about something called a bitter moon, where those entities that try to take possession, basically, of the human race and mine it, and the individuals that they're able to suck in go off, and they are this part of this evolutionary chain of this bitter moon.
So that is very interesting because it's a very cosmological take on this split.
But you're talking about this split taking place.
On earth, and it sounds very similar.
It's like the inverted reflection of the same thing.
Yeah, well, for me, you know, it's there's a bunch of different prophecies and different esoterica and different technology that I have different, I guess, prophecies or takes that basically say the same thing.
It's always about these two paths.
One is direct, which may be the soul stream kind of eventually forming to Jupiter.
Like it's not going to be tomorrow or anything like that.
You know, we're gradually moving there.
And then there's also this divergent stream.
Where it's almost like people don't pass the initiation.
It's almost like to get to Jupiter, what Steiner would call New Jupiter, what some would call 5D Earth, you have to pass the initiation.
And then if you don't pass, you go into like an artificial realm.
And it's artificial because it's not organic, you've created it.
You're playing God.
We have to be very careful with how we create things in this life.
We have to align with God and with our higher self to a certain degree, and then we create from there.
That is the perfect balance between, you know, aligning with our higher self and then serving the planet or creating it.
It's a balance.
But when you just create from ego, it's synthetic, it's artificial.
There's not enough actual raw spiritual impulse in it to connect you back up with your higher stream.
And so, therefore, whenever we create from our ego, from that lower form or the beast system, as some would call it, it's not real, it's synthetic.
And that's why people are also people that tend to do that will be drawn into things like transhumanism.
It's because they still desire very much to have the natural, organic awakening of getting your intuition back and all these amazing things happening, but they know they can't get it because they haven't been creating in their life properly.
So they synthetically create it.
It's this playing God.
And that's why it's artificial, it's not connected with that original pulse that makes everything holy.
And so if it's not holy, it's artificial, it's inverted.
And that is what that sphere, when I look at it, is all about.
And the moon is key because the moon acts like a key.
It acts like a lock and key.
Its vibrational frequency and its cycling for consciousness acts like a key in which the moon contains all of our pain and all of our trauma.
And it holds it there so that we can work on it, so that we can heal ourselves.
It's functional, it's not evil, it's serving us.
A function for us.
It's neutral.
And we can't actually leave this realm unless we look at what we have left in the moon to work on.
So that's why it's kind of like a lock.
It will lock you here if you are not working on yourself.
And that's why people say it's a prison planet.
Well, yeah, it is going to be a prison planet if you refuse to work on yourself, if you refuse to develop.
The moon will lock you here.
Certainly it will.
I mean, it's not really the moon, it's because remember, all planets are also inside of us.
Refusing to Be Sucked In00:05:44
Right.
So it's locking you off from taking on higher frequencies that would probably just fry your brain or that would probably actually harm you or cause madness, really.
Right.
So, ready for those.
Yeah.
You know, it's they're extremely harmonic and it's incredibly painful to experience spiritual power that you're not ready for.
So, then the question becomes how do you prepare?
How do you get ready?
I feel that the.
Mystery school, cosmology, UFO side now is more important than ever because what people need to do, and this is what I'll ask you next, which is what people need to do, I think, is go inside, go within now.
That's where it's at because the aftermath is all this stuff has happened on the outside.
And so the deep kind of taking stock has to take place inside.
Yeah, and there's a really interesting thing that happens when we go inside is that if we can all go inside and start doing that inner work and going into our heart, what ends up happening is a completely different momentum starts to be created within humanity.
And what happens is that politicians and leaders start realizing that you're not looking for them to solve your problems anymore.
Because you're kind of getting good at doing that yourself.
You're kind of getting better.
You're kind of seeing that relationship between the inner world and the outer world and the collective consciousness that we all share is starting to become something that maybe we're thinking about and maybe asking questions like, well, how do we shift the collective consciousness?
If this exists, is this not our point of power?
And how do we shift that?
How do we tap into that?
And this is why one of the reasons why they don't want people to gather in groups, too.
Because one of the things about shifting the collective consciousness.
Is that we have to be in groups, you know, that really we don't have to be, but it really does speed it up and it really does help.
So, when we start catching on to these things, which really are in the spiritual realm, a little bit beyond philosophy, it really is a spiritual experience, then we see that politicians start realizing, uh oh, we better start listening to them and we better see what they want.
And this starts to get into a whole different kind of leadership when you have a spiritually evolving, spiritually awakened.
Population is leadership completely changes when there's that spirituality involved.
Well, we have a backwards curve happening with leadership right now.
And, you know, I would say that we had with the populist movement putting Trump in there, the shake him out thing of, you know, let's say what's on our minds.
And there was a lot of that that came forward.
And then, like, the Empire Strikes Back.
They install Biden and they install this whole system.
And it's almost like the leadership thing is now, it's back in that weird position where it's a backward, they're leading us in a backwards fashion.
So when we go out and we look at what's at stake, say for 2021, how do you take it from a point of view of, I'm going to go within in the aftermath of all this and all the things that have played out to really get informed?
And to really hear that message about what the next steps are.
Yeah, what I would start by just unplugging and just get off of social media.
You know, there's that sense of urgency all the time with social media, there's always something happening that's a really big deal that you have to know.
And we have to get over the idea that, you know, we're going to be uninformed if we don't watch the news, or we're going to be uninformed if we don't turn on social media every five minutes.
And we have to realize that we are the most informed when we are actually informed about what's going on within ourselves, emotionally, mentally, all of that.
That is the first thing that we need to function to think about.
And then only once we have that kind of stabilized and we feel like we're in more harmony should we then go out and look at the world.
And from that place, we have a very different, even if you just took it, it's so dramatic that most people, if they just take five minutes and go sit in a quiet room and just breathe and just let go or just go walk somewhere without their shoes on and then they come back to the same thing, they often don't even see it the same way.
Or the interest towards it's completely gone.
And so, this is the kind, it's along those lines where we have to start developing that power within so that we have more control over the material world than we do now.
Because right now, as you said, going backwardsness is that we're all being sucked into narratives, we're being sucked into things because we're not sovereign enough to not get sucked in.
There's something that we're not getting, which is that.
We're not understanding that we're a sovereign entity, a sovereign being that is part of God.
Positive Breakaway Civilizations00:12:14
Right?
We're not understanding.
We're getting sucked into all these different things as though our individuality and our sovereignty just doesn't matter.
It doesn't exist.
Right.
Right.
Absolutely.
And they're trying to peg people off, you know, into, oh, they're white supremacists, you know, oh, they're misinformation people.
Anytime for, you know, Regardless of what you say, you have to be lobbed into some category for them to tabulate you and be able to ship you off so that you can't have any independent ideas expressed.
Now, what's interesting to me is, and we've talked about the setup in society and how the mystery schools and the secret societies, left hand and right hand, are interwoven throughout the political process.
And so they've set up a kind of a paradigm in society where they're battling against each other for.
The ability to move the culture in one direction or the other.
And we know that one of those directions would be pretty perilous for people on Earth.
The mystery school setup, they seemed to understand the UFO question was going to come into the fore.
As a matter of fact, some of the very key people, like George Adamski, who were the big contactee, space brother, 50s, or Thon contacted me in the desert, were very, very deep theosophists.
And his first book came out paired back to back with the top theosophist Desmond Leslie in the UK as a single book.
Leslie wrote one book about theosophy, and Adamski wrote a book called About the Space Brothers, and they put those two books out together.
So there's a direct tie over now with the mystery schools into the Space Brother Alien thing.
What is the message behind that?
Because that seemed to be something that was organic that was happening.
Before all this monkey business started with the government interfering with the alien narrative.
Well, it is very interesting.
It's, well, you know, there are groups of people who never ever lost contact with what we would call the Space Brothers and the Space Sisters.
Right.
They never lost contact.
And, um, You could look at them as Atlanteans, you could look at Venusians, Pleiadians, there's lots of different kinds of wording that is used.
But there are certain groups on this planet that never lost contact with humanity.
They never left humanity.
They just sort of recessed in their influence because they essentially have different rules of engagement.
High societies have completely different rules of engagement than a society that is dark, than a group that is dark.
And you could also, if we wanted to modernize it a little bit more, even the Adamski story, and maybe even what.
Theosophy was building up to is that there are different breakaway civilizations.
And people talk about breakaway civilizations.
I think we automatically start thinking of negative things and we get into and we start spiraling into the whole like prison planet thing and we think about these Nazis.
And this is a very important part of the breakaway civilization conversation.
There's no question there.
That's something that we need to get into and discuss.
But there's also a positive breakaway civilization.
There's also one that serves humanity.
There are both, there are two.
And this is a very important conversation to have because so many times when we do look at this modern conversation, as you've pointed out, it becomes like this threat narrative where everything's a threat or it starts to get very warped very fast.
And there's very little conversations about, or there's very little comparing and contrasting the.
The two different breakaway civilizations that coexist on this planet that have different people engaged in them and working with.
What would be a quick description of breakaway civilization A, breakaway civilization B?
We know about one of the breakaways that it involves working on advanced technology that kind of X protect type people.
And they have taken it to a point where they're like, we're not going to share this with the public.
We don't want to move the culture forward.
We just want to develop the stuff on our own.
That would be one track.
What about the other one?
Well, yes.
The other one has completely different rules of engagement.
They're completely different.
They want, they see humanity as being in a time of deep initiation.
And they don't interfere with humanity as much as some people may like because they see humanity as needing to experience this and kind of go through this initiation.
Whereas the darker, more self serving side sees this as an opportunity to exploit humanity.
And so the lower breakaway civilization is exploitive.
The way I've described it in my work is I call one the Antichrist impulse.
And these people actually have a completely different energetic system, it's known as the beast system.
And they have a completely different timeline, a completely different trajectory.
The higher breakaway civilization is what would be linked to the Christ impulse or the Christ stream, and this is the initiating stream for humanity.
So these individuals have earned their position there through going through initiations just like this, and they seek to help humanity.
These are the people that we would consider ascended masters or very advanced adepts, people even that are incarnated, people that are not incarnated, people that are on the earth, people that are in the earth.
But it's a whole system.
It's a whole system of an advanced positive breakaway civilization.
And the positive breakaway civilization, if you really look at the technology, it's actually a little bit different than the lower breakaway civilization.
The lower breakaway civilization got their technology from basically beings that are significantly lower in consciousness.
Than the higher breakaway civilization, which is a technology that basically can directly interface with your mind, your emotion, and your spirit in a much more succinct way.
Whereas the lower breakaway civilization cannot interface with the technology as closely, they can't control it as well.
It's a lot more synthetic.
So, lower breakaway civilization has extremely dirty technology compared to the higher breakaway civilization, if that makes sense.
Yeah, it's interesting too, because I was thinking about how Steiner was talking about in the ancient Mayan culture, you had the priests that could get all this information from these harmonic entities who were not physical.
And they would go into the state and receive that information and then be able to implement it.
And it is a kind of fantastic information, but it's kind of like, you know, the types of entities would be like the kind of Aleister Crowley type contacts, you know, the lamb.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You do start getting into the conversations about the grays.
And you start getting into a split in the temple cultures or the mystery schools where over time there's been so much splitting that has occurred where certain people have gone into this lower negative impulse and certain people have gone into the higher one and maintained that.
And so there's people that have this incredible knowledge because they've been introduced to various.
Mystery teachings, and you know, they're part of it, they have access to it, they can have these seances, they can build things, they can do things, they have the same information that anybody else does, but just not the same capacity.
And this is really what generates and feeds that lower breakaway civilization.
One of the things that's very interesting about the lower breakaway civilization is that the grays, what we know as the grays, and I call them divergent timeline.
It's a divergent timeline.
The eighth sphere is a divergent timeline, really.
And so they were communicating with people and posing as saviors.
And they were trying to appear.
Environmental saviors.
Yeah.
Wow.
Incredible.
And then they gave them formulas to develop technology in exchange for access to humanity.
It's a very intriguing story.
It's, yeah.
What is it you study?
The alien aspect a lot.
You're very in touch with a lot of these aspects.
How do you see the Greys?
You know, we know that the Pleiadians seem to have this spiritual tie in with humanity's past, but the Greys are unusual again.
The Greys are a future version of humanity that decided to take on transhumanism and become transhumanists.
Deformed themselves to the point that there was no return.
And there's been a lot of different, it's a long story, and there's lots of details to this, but that's like the long story short.
The Pleiadian or sometimes Venusian, they're just superhuman.
There's no divergence.
These are people, these are beings who have passed the initiation.
They never deformed themselves, they never mutated themselves with technology.
And so, You can't even tell that they've advanced themselves unless you can, you know, see their aura.
They may be look a little bit different, but at the end of the day, they're human.
They're just superhuman, something that we can all do, something that every single person can do and achieve should they take on the mantle of it.
You know, that so there's that superhuman element, and then there's the divergent timeline, which is what we know as the grays, and there's other divergent timelines too, but the most significant one to us is really the grays, because they really are.
Basically, humanity, they're a failed humanity that failed so badly.
They failed the initiation that we face now so badly that they had to come back to our time, and they do have these technologies, right?
And try to take genetics from this time to try to give themselves a body that they could actually start to incarnate into again.
And so it's so beautiful how the universe does this, how during our initiation time we will be confronted with both.
We will be confronted with superhumans that have achieved.
You may not even know who they are.
They won't tell you.
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They probably won't talk about it.
And then there will be, you know, and then we'll also be confronted with this idea of a failed humanity that we have to look right at because we're looking right at our own choice, our own initiation.
Wow, that's really true.
So many of the leaders today seem that they're on this backward, twisted path.
You know, Musk and Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey at Twitter, you know, obsessed with control, controlling free speech.
In Musk's case, he talked about this big breakthrough where he was running electrodes through a monkey's brain to get reactions and just thought it was the greatest thing in the world.
And this guy, you know, really not playing with a full deck.
So we kind of didn't get the leaders on the public front.
That we could say, hey, you know, like you could in the 1960s, you look at JFK and MLK and RFK and be like, I want to be moving the culture the way these guys are moving the culture and the space program and everything else.
And even a lot of movie directors and things in that period, there's an idealism that comes out of it.
We come into the 2020s, and it's interesting because it's almost like the outer culture now isn't leading, it's leading us into the dark doorway.
But it's the people on the surface who it's almost like an inversion because the people on the surface have the ability and they still have the consciousness, they haven't been corrupted by this larger thing.
And I mean, to some degree, they haven't been corrupted by it.
So they have the ability now to band together.
That's what I've been getting from a lot of your work, which is people seem to have the ability to build a new civilization.
Yes, we absolutely do, just with our choices every single day.
You know, we have the ability to come together and build something.
You know, if we keep feeding the system the way it is, it's never going to change.
Whether it's criticism or whether it's, you know, praise or whatever it is, we keep playing into it.
It's not going to change.
We have to do something ourselves.
We have to go inward in a spiritual sense, but also in practical senses, like with finding that food source that you were talking about earlier, securing shopping at small businesses.
We have to start actually doing the practical things with the spiritual things, and that will transform society so fast.
Not only that, it'll be so healing because honestly, even before this happened, there were so many people that were lost and depressed.
I mean, we're seeing all this.
Come to the forefront now, but this has been going on for a long time.
A lot of people have, yeah.
So, this is it's a good that this is kind of happening in a way because now we're getting a lot of validations and we can kind of turn a corner and really start letting some things go, really start changing our mind, really start changing things.
It's interesting.
There were movements in the 70s for things, you know, for example, anti pollution, you know, don't litter.
And there were all kinds of sustainability arguments back then, you know.
Don't let the corporations use things that'll deplete you.
Well, that's failed.
All these arguments went out the window eventually when the corporations took over things like Netflix and they get you to think what activism is, it's just something that you can be outraged by.
So you're emotionally invested in some little thing.
They could say, like, oh, take down the picture of this guy that is in this remote little Capitol building in Georgia, and that'll show what a great person you are.
And these people get obsessed with it and they're like, it needs to happen.
His picture from the Georgia Capitol needs to come down.
These types of things.
Right.
Yeah.
That is a kind of neurosis.
It doesn't have anything to do with evolving a society.
No.
It's kind of like, now that you're putting it that way, it kind of reminds me of like the 1984 where they just go like yell at the screen for 20 minutes and I just feel so much better now.
It's so totally like this game that you're playing with yourself to relieve an inner pressure that you have, but you're not actually changing anything.
You're not actually getting anything done.
And it is a neurosis, but some people are catching on.
And I think that we just need to kind of reach a little bit of a critical mass.
A lot of people who do talk about it get censored.
That doesn't help.
You know, a lot of people just aren't leaders.
A lot of people, I think, genuinely would channel their energy in the correct way.
But they're just not leaders in the sense of having that capacity.
And all the politicians have been, for so long, we've made it so the leadership is so self serving and wimpy that we don't have leaders leading us in the right way.
But I do feel like if people, I do feel like people would if they had the right exposure to it.
Yes, absolutely.
You know, it's interesting because Putin came out and was talking recently.
He's had some very unusual things to say, but one of the odd things he said was that, oh, we need to find things in common in society, or else we're going to head for a war of all against all.
Now, we know who said that.
Yeah.
So, this is a Steiner quote direct from Putin.
And it just went over everybody's head because, whatever.
But of course, there I am sitting reading it and thinking, oh, he's a Rudolf Steiner reader.
That's interesting.
Yeah, that is really interesting.
He's right.
Whoever said it, they both are right.
We're seeing things devolve into that very quickly with every race turning against each other and nothing's getting done.
We don't know how to work out real problems the right way.
It's interesting because in the Steiner vision of things, Aramon's very divisive and his.
His ultimate goal and what happens is the right side of the human body turns against the left side of the human body.
So, this is where we can see this development.
You know, when they take you back to the 1960s and they say, you know, oh, you know, racial justice, you know, we need to have these things as if it had never been talked about or done as if there wasn't affirmative action or the civil rights movement or all these things to move the culture forward.
And there's always a long way to go, but obviously the culture is already on that track to pretend.
That you're in the mid 60s and you have to blow up cities to get attention and money.
These things are obviously engineered and they've been doing these types of things.
Those groups are incredibly destructive.
That group loves the idea of civil war, for example, because it's more of this division, like we're talking about the war of all against all.
Well, those people already have their right side turned against their left side within them.
Right.
And so they look out in the world and that's all they see.
They've already lost the war of all against all.
They're already in it.
That's all they can see.
Living in Different Realities00:14:22
That's all they can know.
But we have to start trying to bring some sobriety back into the fever dream that we're all living in.
Yes.
Yes, absolutely.
And I won't dwell on politics here.
I just want to mention that thinking about these kind of harmonic influences in society on the rise, the transhumanist push for things to make the society less human, as you said, kind of creating this idea that there's an alien ideal that's better than humanity.
And this sort of clean super chip can make you super ready for this alien thing.
Because during the whole lockdown, What is it that they've been pushing, even sometimes with very outdated stories, pretending that they're brand new?
They've been pushing this weird version of the UFO thing.
Yes.
It's so strange for us who have been on top of the subject for years and knew when the media hated to talk about UFOs.
They couldn't stand it.
They would block every story and ridicule anybody who was involved with it.
Now, GG, they love it.
They love it.
They keep sprinkling it in every once in a while to make sure it's in the forefront of people's minds.
Yes.
I do sense that they are having a difficulty with it, though.
Yeah, I do sense that when they do do things, there's a sense of it being beyond them.
I do think it's the hardest card that they're going to play.
It's going to be the hardest thing that I think they do, much harder than doing the virus stuff or anything else.
This is the really hard one because they have a really hard time.
Dealing with it because it directly deals with consciousness.
And there is such a community that there is actually a pretty huge alternative community that shoots it down right away a lot of the time.
Yeah.
So you do see them trying and they are going to continue to try.
They are going to continue to do it.
I have no doubts.
But I do feel like it's something that really is hard for them.
There's something about it that they're not really able to.
Well, I have a kind of a popular phrase that I use, which is if you think the coronavirus op was hardcore, wait till they get to the alien op because.
That's really what they're building up here.
And it's in, they already have a UAP task force.
They already have the idea of a UFO threat out there.
They promoted it through TTSA, which is bombing, you know, because their TV show went down the drain and had a hard time.
Yes.
It's interesting, too, because they did have a hard time pushing it, even though a lot of people in the field of UFOs actually jumped on board and tried to be a part of that thing.
It really didn't go anywhere.
And they were using the threat idea again.
And it was the whole idea of here are the heroes, the CIA, and here's the threat, evil aliens.
Yes.
And it's the same thing again and again.
And that may actually be why they're having such a problem is because they are so militaristic about it.
And they always take the military approach.
Yes.
And it's a very masculine, very heavy masculine approach.
It's not satisfying for a lot of people.
It's not a satisfying narrative for a lot of people to think about space in that way.
And it's just instinctively wrong.
And I don't know, I don't think they realize that it's just the wrong way.
And I don't think they have the capacity to do it the right way.
They really have developed an entire structure outside of Earth.
And underneath the earth, as you covered on your show before, including probably Mars.
And they have a lot of technology that they've kind of squirreled away.
They want to use it, they want to become space faring.
They have all these toys, they've developed this infrastructure, they want to use it, and they want to fill it with probably recruiting people.
And they just want to get it going.
I'm sure that they're living in a.
One of the things that, you know, Spirit showed me was that the consciousness of these people that are behind this is like they're living in a completely different reality than the average person.
Completely different technology, completely different level of knowledge because they've developed it for power for so long privately that it's actually hard to function at this point because they're so.
Far ahead in the worlds they're creating or what they're doing.
So they have to bring Earth up to, they have to bring humanity up to their speed, and they're hoping to do it in a way that supplants the culture that we naturally have.
But they got to use that.
That's fascinating.
Yes.
You know, it's interesting to me in the mystery school tradition, in the Casey work, in Steiner's work, they talk about the planets as developmental pathways, almost like schoolrooms that we pass through.
And then we go through these phases of lives on these planets, not as physical life, but as different types of life, etheric form, density, different density, different density, right, exactly.
And then we come back to fulfill those lessons in a physical body here.
You know, Casey talked about Arcturus being the doorway out of this system.
And we hear about that too, which is you've mastered the system, you've moved on.
This idea of virtual reality and technology being set up as the eighth sphere by Arman to become an artificial step, if those steps are interrupted, what happens to humanity and what happens to the normal, say, reincarnation chain that takes place?
Well, to very well, it well, I mean, that stream would become very different over time than the then, you know, if you if you want to call the one stream new Jupiter or higher earth, you know, the lower one is going to be completely different over a long period of time than the other one.
They're gonna they're gonna be totally deformed in every way.
What happens is they end up pouring energy into the lower chakra.
System or like the beast lower chakras, and it ends up completely changing their consciousness, and that's why a whole different sphere has to be formed.
Steiner says the spirits of form come down, you know, at the end of the cycle, and they kind of pressurize it into a separate sphere.
So, the spirits of form are like what I think he means is they're bringing the form to all of the thoughts that we think.
And all of the immaterial, it's kind of coming down and making a world out of everything that we've invested in over our lives.
And if it's divergent, if it's not holy, if it's not out of love, and the spirits of form compress that into that eighth sphere.
And that's that synthetic sphere, that false sphere.
And so that world is going to be a world of basically trauma and what you haven't worked on.
It'll be denser than this world that we have now, even adding, even adding, um, These kinds of transhumanist parts of the brain will change your bioenergetic frequency so that it's no longer sovereign.
That's going to change the way that everything about you functions as it is.
So, we're probably looking at a weird hive mind.
Can you imagine falling from the density that we are now, losing your sovereignty?
So, like, you can't even think.
It reminds me of that Vonnegut poem about the ballerina and they have the thing on, and the thing buzzes when you think the wrong way.
It's like that.
I mean, it's very prophetic.
And, you know, it's going to be like a hive mind, a group mind.
You'll have no sovereignty.
And that is very, like, we think it's hard now to ascend, or we think it's hard now to connect with our heart and our higher self because we're already so disconnected by the overuse of our mind.
Well, think about that.
Think about if you take that divergent stream even further.
Think about losing your ability to even think for yourself.
That is what we're looking at.
We're looking at the loss of sovereignty.
And in order for them to begin to kind of climb back up the evolutionary train, they have to climb back up to where we are now.
Right.
This is above.
So that's why there's that whole thing about beings harvesting our DNA and abductions and things like that, is because we're actually, when it comes to the evolutionary streams, we are above.
That sphere.
So they have to evolve back up to where they fell.
So, do you think so?
This is really interesting, actually, because do you think if we look at it and say, well, the mystery schools left behind a kind of a blueprint, and they said, you know, here's what you can discover, and here's what's coming.
Going so far, you know, in Theosophy, they say in the 21st century, you know, the world teacher has to appear, and the sixth root race, you know, who is a psychic race, is coming.
And then Steiner's work comes forward as.
Kind of a correction to that since he came out of theosophy.
And he says, actually, we're past the point of the world teacher and we're past the point of Mahatmas rescuing us.
We're actually taking it on through spiritual science as individuals with their help, but we're not waiting for them to deliver us.
That's why.
And it's odd because Krishnamurti, who came out of the theosophical training and they trained him to be that world teacher, he said what Steiner said in essence, which is, no, humanity's moved past.
This.
But Theosophy had that interesting setup, and what they were trying to tell us about the 21st century, whether it's Steiner's work or Gurdjieff's work or Theosophy, is that this is where it all converges.
This is where the challenge is.
And Gigi, they point right to this period that we're in.
Yes, they really do.
And, you know, it reminds me of what Steiner said about Christ.
Is some people think that the man will sort of reincarnate, and he said, No, the consciousness.
Right.
Consciousness.
So, we do go through these periods where it's very much about an individual initiator, and the individual initiator is personifying a very precise force in the cosmos and contributing that to humanity, which is very important.
Certain pathways, certain circuitry, materializing that.
We can look at Christ and see that he did that.
But then we also go through periods where it's not about that individual force so much personifying, it's really about.
That force expanding into the cosmos and connecting with it yourself and becoming that yourself.
Individualizing that yourself.
That was the whole point of the Avatar.
That was the whole point of the great teacher to do that yourself.
But we have this desire to, I think, sometimes not read the energy as it is, but to read it as it was.
And I think that's why Steiner ended up sobering Theosophy in that way a little bit.
It's beautiful.
You know, you can't knock it, but did sober it a little bit because I think he was reading things as it was.
Is that masculine presence to read it as it is, not the dream, you know, but read it as it is, you know?
And so that's what I think, that's the difference in, I think, the two.
And the reason why it's here now is because we're right on that precipice where this is the time where things really start speeding up.
They really, really start splitting.
It can be an incredibly productive time in our life if we can understand exactly what this is, which is a time of purging and rearranging and starting to live very exact, very efficiently.
But we can also see that there's a lot of different interdimensionals that have come here at this time.
And that's part of this as well, is because this time is very, very, very significant.
When you look at the predictions for some of the programs that Elon Musk is doing, you know, the ones that we love so much, you know, Neuralink and SpaceX and stuff like that, like Mars colonization, we are looking at a completely different world in potentially even 30 years.
We are looking at a different planet being colonized.
We are looking at potentially people being hooked up to the Borg.
We are looking right at an opportunity where consciousness could completely change and life on Earth could completely change so fast.
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And so I think that that's why this time was so prophesied about because if you were a psychic, you would be like, This is where I've got to put the awareness.
This is where we've got to put the energy because this is where the biggest shift is.
And this is where the most critical time is because if, like, I mean, some of it is like hooking people up to things like Neuralink or various weird, you know, various weird nanite technology, even in the next five or 10 years.
We're right here.
We don't realize it because we don't connect with our energy and our aura and stuff like that normally.
So we don't realize that these things change your consciousness.
So, yes, absolutely.
And it makes you more part of their system.
They're trying to, in essence, plug average people into their system.
And this is the group of transhumanist leadership that's, in essence, taken over.
You know, Gates, Musk, these types of people are, you know, and Gates, being really one of the worst, just, you know, gleefully can't wait till the next pandemic.
He's already talking about how he's got systems ready to vaccinate a quarter of the population against the next pandemic, you know.
And he just is waiting for these little updates.
Pandemics are actually extremely rare.
And the idea that you just line up expecting them to hit, you know, it seems very strange and completely contrived to pour humanity into this very, I mean, it's a robotics system ultimately, which is where they're going.
And so they're trying to get the human on par with the robot.
And using AI as part of it, that is an interruption in soul evolution.
Oh.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, it is the biggest.
It is the biggest.
And you know what?
In all true style, it'll be sold and promoted as the best possible thing.
It'll be sold as though you're superhuman.
Right.
And it'll be sold as though you can regenerate your spinal cord or you can.
You can do all this stuff, and they'll sell it as though it's this miraculous technology.
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And I think that's the crazy part of it all is that a lot of people will go for that because it's a complete inversion of reality where you'll think that you're getting something that's actually going to make you better, but in the long run, it's separating you from the most precious thing that you have, which is your soul.
And those people that end up being more soul directed, what kind of a civilization are they looking at building when this whole system is on top of them, in a sense?
Well, I think that we're going to move a lot more towards organic living.
I think we're going to move out of these big cities because we realize that living in concrete and steel is really not very advanced.
We realize that a lot of our ancient ancestors' technology, even if it's stone or even if it's crystals, was a lot more advanced than the stuff that we're doing in cities.
So we're going to see people moving more towards, I think, the way we used to do things and finding that balance between.
We're already seeing a lot of people moving towards traditionalism and revamping that.
You're seeing a lot of that now.
I'm seeing a lot of that now.
People homesteading, people farming, and it's changing their lives because they're realizing that the way that we live today is very much against nature in a lot of ways.
You know, we're going to see smaller communities.
That's what it's going to look like smaller, more meaningful communities, real connection.
And these will be people who are willing to basically say goodbye or sacrifice a lot of the materialist notions and desires that they had.
The people who are more materially oriented will have a lot more difficult time with it.
But over time, the more organic society will be stronger.
It will be stronger, probably be anti, it probably won't do a lot with vaccines.
Organic food, water.
We're going to move back to a lot of the knowledge that our ancestors had that we sort of foolishly forgot about.
Right, right, absolutely.
A return to the land in a lot of ways.
Yeah, and really getting into our understanding also, I think, of our Kundalini energy and seeing that as a great achievement.
You know, a good example of how humanity could be is the Essenes.
And the various or the higher breakaway civilization cultures, how they live is you know, where the most important thing is the development of the spirit within the body.
Um, and uh, something that you take with you when you die, it's the thing that we should all be the most careful with and caring about the most because it's the one thing that survives this reality, absolutely.
Um So that takes shape basically through kind of recognition of these intentional communities.
Yeah, I would say so.
And it may not be like certain towns that just end up attracting to them.
Yeah, it may not be like some of the intentional communities that I've seen in the spiritual community where it's around one spiritual figure that they worship and they sort of serve.
It's more like.
An intentional community based around an idea or more that than like a person sort of thing.
Yeah.
Right.
You know, Fitz has talked about them developing local currencies, local food systems, and things of that nature.
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There are some people that have that, that do that already.
There are some communities that are already, yeah, barter.
But this is how you see them kind of branching off.
And saying, I'm not plugged into that system.
You know, I'm not plugged into Bank of America.
It's not worth it.
There's going to be people that are like, it's not worth it.
It's like you with your Twitter.
If they're going to force you to, if they're already stealing your data, if they're already disrespecting people by removing them from social media, they're taking your phone number.
I mean, it's just how many acts of complete and outright disrespect do we take before we just say, you can have it?
I'm going to do something else now because I don't want to engage in it.
And I won't be treated this way.
So people will begin to do that the more that the fist comes down.
And it's amazing, Twitter being like one of the worst offenders.
And we've seen them do it to so many different people from Forbidden Knowledge TV to Fitz.
But they did it to me.
They took away 10,000 followers first and then they locked me out of the account.
But what I did and what you're going to be doing is jumping into Telegram.
And it's interesting because it's going to become a competition of free sources.
Just like at a certain point, I think it's going to become a competition of free states.
Versus these crazy dictator states.
And, you know, I like the idea of the Union.
Don't get me wrong.
And I'm sure there are forces set up to create civil war style scenarios.
But there's no question that there's going to be a certain point where people who are sensible are going to say, I want to go to a free state, you know, where they don't force all these ridiculous lockdown rules, where they don't destroy small business, and where they're not completely under the thumb of the New World Order.
It already is happening.
And we're seeing that shift from California to Florida, you know, and you've seen it already from New York to North Carolina.
And, you know, we've already seen it these huge migration waves going from places into Arizona, for example.
So, you know, places that seem more free, Texas, they have their problems, but their fundamental identification with American freedom is.
Not in question the way it is in a place like California, which is basically run like a dictatorship.
And now, even the people in California are trying to get Gavin Newsom recalled, which I think is a great idea.
But behind Gavin Newsom is that engine.
You know, it's that they're going to try to put another guy in there who will do the same thing.
So it's very interesting what you're coming up with, which is that split is not so much a Civil War style split.
It's more of a We're not part of your system and we're going our own way, type split.
Yeah.
I mean, I could, with the last election, for example, you know, you're talking about a large portion of the population that is more populist by nature and wants nothing to do with this kind of Gates New World Order.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
There's a lot of them.
There's a lot of people that can find themselves under just the rebellion against the system, even though they don't agree on a lot of things other than that.
And that's what's really going to generate this.
One thing I think is also important is that I don't really think we've seen the light forces or the.
I don't think we've really seen any counter punching yet.
I don't think that we've seen the response yet to a lot of the tyranny that's taken place.
And when we see all of these populations now suddenly being concentrated in places like Texas, Florida, that are freedom oriented, suddenly they're going to be a lot more awake.
They're going to be maybe around like minded people.
And that's going to start a sort of momentum that maybe didn't exist before.
And so we really have yet, we're kind of groggy, we're kind of waking up, we're trying to process this.
We're trying to process what it all means.
A lot of people were not prepared for this level of operation.
But we haven't really seen people hitting back yet.
We see, like Rand Paul, we see certain people holding the line, certainly.
But we haven't really seen on a civilian level, and we haven't really quite seen the response yet, which I think will be a lot.
You know, there's a vacuum right now in politics.
A big vacuum in politics that needs to be filled.
There's a whole lot of people that aren't represented right now.
Oh, yeah.
And that's going to be a great opportunity for some people, someone to come in.
And so we have a lot of things that move.
And we're just in the very beginning of it.
And we haven't yet seen humanity start to rise yet.
We're still waking up.
We haven't yet.
And I think the centralizing of.
As you're saying, into these freedom oriented states, I think that's going to really be kind of like the wind beneath.
It's going to cause a lot of change.
Absolutely.
Yeah, no question about it.
It's fascinating to be in the middle of the process, actually see it taking place.
We've seen it happen in history before, but to actually be there when it's taking place is remarkable.
We're dealing with a lot of weird stuff like lockdowns and censorship on social media.
So a lot of people are like, how is this going on?
How is all of this tyranny actually taking place?
But in reality, it's like we're being locked.
We're under lockdown.
People are censored.
Groups on Facebook get deleted all the time of people trying to gather.
So we do have a lot of stuff that we're up against that we have to realize and kind of factor in.
But I think once we get our stride, we'll start to see a lot more movement.
No question about it.
And what's interesting to me is.
It seems like, you know, there is a kind of a mystical aspect to this as well.
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You know, it's like they foresaw this coming, those groups that we were referring to, the Theosophists.
In Anthroposophy, they talk all about biodynamic farming, which is one of the more incredible farming methods that are available for developing organic foods.
And so these things were laid out.
You know, the Gurdjieff Foundation.
And with Gurdjieff's work, a lot of the things that he said in relation to mystery schools is that what they are is they are, and he was speaking in terms of how they're not meant to be institutions over time, but they are groups of individuals that come together to move society, spread seeds for future society, and move back into the kind of mystical underpinnings where we don't see them again.
They are not meant to be there.
It's like, hey, it's mystery school 101.
I'm going to walk in and And everything's going to be hunky dory.
They get together, they come together in sometimes fantastical ways, and usually through remarkable individuals.
But they don't tend to stay in the same form very long.
So I think that's what we're looking at now, which is they laid the foundation for us.
The books are out there.
People have been in groups for years.
I talked to someone who was in a Steiner group from the 1960s.
And so this thing has been going on for a long time.
The Gurdjieff groups started in 1915, soon to be into the Russian Revolution period.
So It is.
I mean, it's a long journey for this work.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there's been a whole lineage of people that have come and read the energy and tried to prepare humanity for this time.
But it's all here.
It's all here.
That's the funny thing about all of this it's literally, if you want the information, the structure, it is literally a click away.
Right.
It's here.
It's all here.
There's no lack of information.
And the information that is brought forward by these teachers is done in such a way that no matter what consciousness level you're on, you will get something different from it.
And you will get what you need.
It's transcendental.
It's a transcendental style of writing and of teaching where there's energy embedded in it.
So it's meant to work with your consciousness.
There's spirit in it.
And so you just have to engross yourself in it.
You just have to start.
You just have to start.
Even if you don't understand what's being said, you just have to engage with the material.
Just have a relationship with the material.
Half of them, I mean, I've been in this for a while, long enough.
And half of some of the stuff I read, I'm like, whoa.
But then you'll have to start having dreams or a book will fall off the shelf about something else or you'll just get it one day.
And this is the nature of the work, it's beyond.
How you would read a newspaper.
You have to just have a relationship.
You just work with it and it will work on you.
And that's really what this is all about.
It's that, that's really what's been left behind.
It's more than a teaching, it's a culture, it's a way of being, and it's multidimensional so that it will work with you.
And that's something that I think is really important that people know if you're new to it.
It's a transcendental kind of thing.
Incredible.
Gigi, remarkable work across the board.
You've been doing some amazing things.
I highly recommend this Christ Impulse lecture, which you've very generously provided online.
And it's over three hours, which is a very fascinating work that you're doing and engaged in now.
Where should people go to find out more about what you're doing?
Yeah, so you can just head on down to ggyoung.com, just my name.
And I have a premium site where I hang out with you just like this.
I answer your questions.
I do actually a live QA about every two weeks.
It is every two weeks.
And I go for three hours and we just talk just whatever is on your mind, whatever questions you have.
Fantastic.
Yeah, I also have courses and things like that if you want to develop your intuition.
And that's where you can find me, just ggyoung.com and YouTube and maybe Telegram.
Yeah.
Telegram is coming.
And I want to say in relation to that, that, you know, I've known people who've taken your intuition courses and they are life changing for them.
So just remarkable work there to explore for everyone.
And of course, you've covered so many of the issues from the alien work to Atlantis and Lemuria and the mystery schools, all in these videos that you've done over the course of a decade or so.
Just incredible background that you have there.
And we will have you back, of course, on the X series.
I'm fond of saying that.
The X series has no greater friend or ally than Gigi Young.
But it's great to see you.
Well, thank you for having me.
Now I'm looking forward to seeing this split in society because it's a flowering of humanity as opposed to the civil war.
Yeah, I mean, some people may experience that, but it doesn't have to be that way.
We can, energy is energy.
You know, we have to remember that energy is energy and we can use it to compress us into our worst selves, a war of all against all.
Or we can use the same energy to discover the most incredible things about humanity, the things that we've been missing.
Fantastic.
Okay, we'll see you soon.
See you soon.
Amazing Gigi, and of course, you can find her incredible work at gigiyoung.com.
Just fascinating esoteric information from a true mystic.
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