Gigi Young joins Daniel Liszt and Olivia to decode Alice Through the Looking Glass as a mathematical initiation ritual for psychic preservation, linking Emma Britton's trance states to the Orphic Circle and Lewis Carroll's Rosicrucian connections. They interpret symbols like Humpty Dumpty and the White Knight as portals to fourth-dimensional spaces, contrasting this ancient wisdom with modern threats like CERN's "black mirror" experiments and Elon Musk's Neuralink agenda. Ultimately, the discussion warns of a coming societal split between synthetic reality adherents and those retreating to organic, no-5G homesteading to safeguard human intuition against AI domination. [Automatically generated summary]
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Mirrors and Materialism00:13:45
All right, and we are live.
Miss Gigi, how are you?
I'm well.
I'm well.
So, what we're going to do is we're going to take a couple minutes to let everyone get in here because, as Gigi and I can tell you, we've had a remarkable technology nightmare this evening.
But all's well that ends well, as they say.
And little by little, we're taking a good look at the new link.
What did you think of all that, Chi Chi?
I, the Alice in Wonderland link.
I mean, I'm amazed by the Alice in Wonderland material.
You know, I read it as a child and then reading it as an adult, it just meant so much more to me.
And it was just so much different than it was reading it as a child.
So I'm really excited to talk about it tonight because I think that everybody can look back at it and get something different from it.
Yeah, there's no question about it.
You know, it's fascinating because we've got this kind of background of tying in all the Orphic Circle stuff into Alice in Wonderland.
But when you go in through the looking glass, it's seven years later.
It's actually seven and a half years later.
Things are a little bit different, but her age is the same.
So this is quite remarkable.
That is really strange.
It's like timelessness, right?
It's like the fourth dimension, timelessness, the mirror realm.
And the question is why did he do it seven and a half years later?
Well, I mean, seven is a really holy number.
It could represent her going through seven important phases of life and then kind of going into it again, you know?
So, like the seven chakra systems of the body represent different phases, you go through different levels.
And it was kind of like, it's time for the next adventure.
It's time for the next initiation.
It's time for the next level.
So I think that's what, you know, the next game, you know.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
It's fascinating because the more I spend with Lewis Carroll's material, Charles Dodgson, the more I realize everything he does is very deliberate.
This is what was coming to me when I was doing this examination.
We have to remember he's a mathematician.
And this plays into everything with Alice in Wonderland because, right down to where she talks about her feet, for example, it'll be at the foot of the page.
So, there's quite a construction here just from a mathematical literary point of view.
When we get deeper into it, we start to see that's all informed by a mystical context.
And so we realize right off the bat we're in deep once we go through the looking glass.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think that he's giving people reading a looking glass experience.
And I think when you write multidimensionally like that, it's almost like you're kind of, it's like your spirit's getting combed.
It's like, you know, there's, you're being almost brought to a very significant, it's kind of like he's entraining people into a psychic world and into a psychic space.
State by mirroring that in his writing in every possible way, mathematically, you know, every way.
And it's almost like an initiation for the reader to remind them of what it's like to be in a psychic state because it is a very psychic mythos.
The story of Alice, the psychic awakening mythos, at least it is to me.
No question about it.
Now, we've been in the middle of a large migration of our live stream over to this new one.
So I'm just going to take a moment to tell everyone that that's what's happening.
And I'm going to mute that.
And indeed, there we are 100%.
So that's good.
And slowly but surely, they're catching on, which is always nice too.
Hopefully, the moderators were able to jump over with it.
We're in here for X Series Episode 62.
And this is Alice Mirror Mirror Through the Looking Glass, the Mirror Initiate, Alice.
And we're joined by Gigi Young.
And Gigi, whenever we get around Alice in Wonderland, rabbits, mysticism, we're right up your alley somehow.
Yeah, we're right there for me.
This is where we belong.
One of the things that struck me about Alice in this incarnation, which is through the looking glass, is this kind of looking at herself in a reflected kind of universal.
Version of herself.
The mirror content, there's so much to get through here.
What are we looking at mystically with the mirror content?
There's, first of all, there's so much with the mirror.
It's a very mystical symbol.
But for us, the fourth dimension or the astral realm is actually a mirror realm.
The psychic realm is actually known as a mirror realm.
And it's known for that because of the experience of being in that realm.
Everything's reflected to you.
Everything, every Feeling inside of you is reflected there.
Every thought that you have is somehow symbolically reflected there.
And so it is really perhaps at the heart of it, if you were to take one thing away from the mirror, it's that it is going into the psychic dimension, the astral realm, the fourth dimension, the psychic space.
And it's giving you that experience.
It's describing that experience and story and metaphor.
Interesting.
So it's literally you're going into that mirror realm where you see it reflected.
You can't touch it, but you can see it, but you can't be it.
Yeah, well, you can't be it and you can't really control it.
I mean, the mirror realm, in order to change something in the mirror, you have to change yourself.
And that's what's really interesting about that work and that dimension and this concept.
And you can see it throughout the Alice story where, you know, she's running, they're running as fast as they can, but they can't get anywhere.
That's even a common thing in astral projection when people are like, they try to move and they can't move.
Because in order to move in the mirror realm, you have to make an internal change or you have to do it.
It's like a different way of navigating that dimension than our third dimension.
Gigi, why does a children's author who's known mostly for mathematics write a story that takes us into a shamanistic wonderland?
And why is the hero of the story?
Young girl?
I think that there could be a lot of different ways that you could explore that.
But I think that, like so many fairy tales, but especially Alice, I think it's allowing children, especially young girls, to remember one of the most special things about them, which is their imagination and their intuition.
And I think going into this materialist age, Like we've talked about with Steiner, how he was writing all this work to survive into this age.
I think that, you know, if it were me saying, and I think that Carol wrote this beautiful psychic awakening mythos that is Alice in the Looking Glass and Alice in Wonderland, so that through story, young girls could carry their psychic senses with them, the psychic experience, and without even knowing it, which is what story does.
So it was a way to have these initiations take place.
Within young girls' consciousness, um, that would survive, I think, a materialist age with stories and metaphor is the best way to do that.
Wow, fascinating.
Um, he's injecting an esoteric impulse into fantasy literature, yeah, and he's working with a young feminine psyche.
Um, but it's quite an adventure, it's that's not something that, um You know, he's not looking at her and thinking, oh, she's so soft, she can't handle anything real.
You know, it's a pretty heavy, heavy duty.
In many cases, a very bad acid trip, as we know.
So it is fascinating to me that he brings this out in this way.
Now, the mirror part and the mirror elements that you were discussing there, we have all these mirror aspects in fairy tales, like you were saying.
One of the fascinating things that we have about Famous magicians in the Middle Ages and in this period around the Renaissance is this idea of a scrying mirror where you look into the mirror.
Now, some of the information that John Dee got that was so sophisticated when he was working for the Queen and was dealing with all these entities was going through one of these mirrors.
So I did some background checking on the mirror, Gigi, and found out it was brought back by Cortez.
And that it was made of this volcanic rock, and that he had stolen these from the Aztecs who had done them in circles, working and getting these spirit messages through these strange obsidian mirrors.
I have a picture of that mirror actually here.
This is actually still in the British Museum.
This is John Dee's scrying mirror.
Gigi, entities.
Seeing into the mirror, I hear that Nostradamus used this.
Why do you think they use volcanic ash, volcanic stone?
It's really interesting, actually.
Well, in a way, volcanic, I think it's obsidian.
So it's like a volcanic glass, something like that.
So it's kind of like a crystal, really.
And I think it has its own personality.
But the black would represent the unknown, the unmanifested.
So that would be.
Very significant, but I do also remember the two eye stones of Atlantis were also connected to volcanoes.
And I've personally seen that in visions when we've worked together with the volcanoes and lava that kind of being significant in the creation of crystals.
And so I'm not surprised that it's an obsidian, you know, circular obsidian thing.
I think it's almost like.
Mirror scrying, I think, is actually a very 3D version of the two eye stone.
So, if we were to move up in dimension and we were to have the same technology that we had on Atlantis, we would be using the two eye crystal in the way that we are using the two eye stone now.
And so, I think that's why there's a parallel between the volcanic thing.
That's really interesting.
It's a good point, actually, the two eye stone, because So much of the research around Bimini is that there's hidden volcanoes under there, and that this is why we have so much about the hot zone going on.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
We got a late start due to some technology shenanigans, but we're here with Gigi Young.
And we're really going deep tonight into Alice Through the Looking Glass, which is the book that Lewis Carroll wrote now, seven and a half years later, after Alice in Wonderland.
And so much of the things that we associate.
With Alice in Wonderland.
A lot of them are in Alice through the looking glass.
What's fascinating is the name of the book is Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There.
So that's very interesting to me, too.
He's really emphasizing this looking glass idea.
Some of the kind of more famous imagery around it has her literally going through this mirror and she's teleporting through the mirror into this other realm.
The Queen's Initiation00:02:34
He's definitely getting his message across.
This is the original illustration of how she gets in there.
So once she's in this other world, she has to rely basically on her intuition.
In the first book, she has all these people doing wild things to her.
In this one, what I'm getting, Gigi, is that this is her initiation into the underworld.
The original name of the book, Alice in Wonderland, was Alice's Adventures Underground.
And what we have though in this one is that by the end, she becomes a queen.
And the whole thing is reduced to kind of a psychedelic chessboard.
And it's been worked out that she does 11 moves to checkmate and become the queen.
So, and she goes from a pawn to a queen, which is this incredible kind of, you know, turning into a butterfly stage.
What are we getting in initiation ritual?
Initiation ceremony in this book that we didn't get in the first one?
Well, 11 is a master number.
We all know that.
11 is a master number.
She has to go through and connect with all of these different people that do all these curious things.
And it's almost like she has to behave in a certain way to get through.
And I think there's, you know, I think there's seven or I think there's seven or I guess the queen is the eighth, but she has to go through all these different squares and every square.
Is like a test or an initiation.
And every square, she sees certain things as well.
She sees specific little things.
And, you know, she has to decide whether to respond to it, how to respond to it.
And yeah, that's so it's, you know, it's an initiation.
Every chess piece is like an initiation, every piece of the game board.
She's different because in the first one, she's kind of almost tormented by the Red Queen.
She's threatened by her on a regular basis.
And she's sort of played with in a trickster fashion in the first book.
That happens in this one too, but the lessons feel different.
And we get strange characters showing up that weren't in the other book.
And some of them are classic figures.
Humpty Dumpty Sparring00:04:19
Humpty Dumpty is a very unusual figure to show up in the middle of this book because it's not part of Carol's canon.
It's something that actually was.
Had been very popular in 1810, goes all the way back to the 1400s.
This very unusual figure, egg shaped, but never identified actually as an egg.
But there we go with kind of fertility again.
And he is hanging out and he says some very interesting things to her.
I'm going to read a couple of his quotes.
And I'm going to show also that Humpty Dumpty isn't just incidental in this book, he's featured on the cover.
And his segment there with Alice.
Sitting up here, and when he goes to shake her hand, she thinks he's going to fall over.
But somehow he maintains it, and he acts very, very unusual and very flippant to her.
There is the cover of the book, and you can see we've got the Humpty Dumpty section is featured.
It's like a main part of the story.
So I really bore down on Humpty Dumpty, and I came across a couple of quotes that I want to give you a crack at.
One of them is, The egg only got larger and larger and more and more human when she came within a few yards of it.
She saw it had eyes and nose and a mouth.
And when she came close to it, she saw clearly that it was Humpty Dumpty himself.
It can't be anybody else, she said to herself.
I'm as certain of it as if his name were written all over his face.
What does Humpty Dumpty tell her?
He says, When I use a word, And he says this in a rather scornful tone it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.
The question is, said Alice, whether you can make words mean so many different things.
The question is, said Humpty Dumpty, which is to be master?
That's all.
Unquote.
Which is to be master, Gigi.
I think he's like the dweller at the threshold.
And I think he's saying, I think he's saying, you know, you have to be masterful with your words and you have to apply the meaning to the words that you want.
Or you have to, like, it's like creating a spell or spelling.
You have to know what you're saying and what you're doing and that you can apply meaning to words and that you're in control of language.
You're in control of your language.
You know, we were talking about, like, the other day with Gurdjieff, language.
And I think this is the same type of kind of Poking around and sparring with her about language.
Yes.
And it's associated with this master.
Again, master.
Again, in initiation ceremonies, you're being initiated by a master.
Humpty Dumpty, a fertility symbol.
The rabbits, a kind of fertility symbol, of course.
But it's not just physical.
Fertility, they're discussing there.
They're discussing the fragility of the whole thing.
Of course, Humpty Dumpty, if he comes off, he's going to smash like an egg.
So it's a very fragile state that he's in.
He's like a buffer, almost like a buffer of the human personality.
And he's telling her, I don't care which words you use, the question really is which one is the master.
For me now, I'm seeing all right, Humpty Dumpty, Chess, Tweedledee and Tweedledum, who we'll get to in a minute, they show up.
Other figures like this are showing up.
Creating Psychic Devices00:11:29
It's like everyone, you know, this is like an all star cast.
But what I get from it is that there was a chess expert who gave us a little bit of an insight about the chess moves that are suggested on the board.
And I want to show a couple of those.
And get your opinion on it.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
We are live and we got a late start, maybe almost by an hour because of some real technical shenanigans, but we are on board and we've got Groovy Bean back there piloting the stream, doing a great job.
And we're here with Gigi Young going deep on Alice as a mirror initiate through the looking glass now.
And we're going to draw in as we've Identified before that Alice in Wonderland is a story of the Orphic Circle, fundamentally based on an Emma Britton type character.
And I'm going to show later who the Orphic Circle kind of protege was in this case for Carol.
And a lot of people thought it was Alice Liddell, but actually, I'm going to identify someone and it's going to be one of those TKOs.
And I've been looking for her for a while.
A couple of interesting things.
The chess board itself and the moves involved.
11 moves, as I mentioned.
The white pawn Alice is to play and win in 11 moves, and she becomes a queen by making it to the other side.
And there's a series of things that actually do become her moves on the board that are tied to certain sequences in the book.
Now, there's an amazing article by Sergio Ernesto Negri, and he is a chess wizard and he writes about chess.
And it's in Chess News.
I grabbed a quote from it because I think it's going to come in handy for us to look at this and the cues from mathematics, from games, from chess in particular, because it's all set there.
So here's his quote The use of the mirror, the looking glass, As a protagonist, likewise refers to the eternal question of the double, which is always present in literature during the Romantic era.
On a psychological level, it could be said that Carol presented sides of his personality that were kept hidden.
Through the looking glass, he was free to explore unexplained impulses using allegories allowed in fiction.
In this framework, another detail worth mentioning as constructive of Carol's personality is the fact that in order to say whatever he wanted, Charles Lutwidge Dodgson, which is Carol's real name, decided to hide.
Behind the pseudonym Lewis Carroll.
That is another word game.
For its construction, he used the following process.
He took his full name, Latinized it, took it back to English, and reversed its order.
That is to say, Charles became successively Carrollus and Carroll, while Lutwidge mutated into Ludovicus and Lewis.
It could also be said that Charles Lutwidge Dodgson constructed the alias Lewis Carroll through a mirror.
As the right and left positions mutate laterally when reflected.
The author did the same when he decided to invert the order in his name.
Gigi, he is, his name itself is a mirror.
And there's loads of steganography in the way that he reconstructed his name.
The esoteric depth of someone like Carol, we're getting a glimpse of it.
Wow.
That's a magical.
Practice that he just did with his book, you know, he just did a whole magical thing with it.
You know, embedding that, that's incredible.
I mean, that's incredible.
It's fascinating.
It's, we start to get some understanding then when we're seeing Alice interact with all these figures that there's an incredible kind of esoteric doctrine being moved into position.
And The fact that the first book takes place underground and the second on a chessboard, how are you reading that?
Because in the second one, she becomes the initiate, but it is going to the underground, to the underworld to get the tools.
Ah, so maybe she goes to Wonderland and she gets the kind of oriented in the type of consciousness and the tools, and then she has to come onto Earth and then she has to, you know, play the game basically.
With what she's learned.
Right.
That's really fascinating.
The modern kind of extrapolation and use of Alice as an initiation style ritual we see over and over again.
And maybe it's misuse because coming out of the Orphic Circle, I would think the kind of Alice program where they worked to bring out young women's psychic sensibilities, in the case of like Emma Britton.
And we're going to talk about Emma Brenton here.
But how do you see them?
We're seeing this kind of inverse through a black mirror now, where the Alice thing is being used against greater consciousness.
Yeah, we can see it with CERN.
CERN has their Alice program, and CERN is a big, giant, synthetic psychic device, basically.
And they're using that magic.
And so it's that's the epitome of black magic to take something that is designed to awaken somebody and was written from that high of a dimensional space.
I mean, the things that he did in his book, he was obviously a very high initiate to even think that way.
He wrote it so magically, it is meant to initiate people.
And so when you take that and then you reverse it and you invert it like that, you can do all kinds of things.
You can brainwash people.
And you can use those archetypes in a negative way.
It can be used negatively or positively.
And unfortunately, I've noticed with even my videos if you even mention Alice or a butterfly or you mention some type of the Alice mythos, people are like, Are you MKUltra?
It's like, No, I live in my house.
I grew up in Canada.
Like, I'm not.
It's like, How do you use?
No.
And it's like, you can't even use these symbols because.
Yeah.
Operations have hijacked them and used them so negatively that people, the tragedy is that people are actually afraid to use these magically for what they're for because it's just like people are so superstitious around them, which is really, really unfortunate.
No question about it.
Wow, that's an amazing point, which is they've actually stolen the thing that would give you strength and give you power by making you allergic to it by thinking it's tied into all this other stuff.
I mean, even the CERN, I mean, CERN is kind of really literally.
And they even use the imagery of Alice standing in front of the looking glass.
It's exact, the imagery, too.
So, yeah, wow.
It's a great point.
It is.
The CERN thing is almost like an abomination of the whole thing by really just turning it into that transhumanism.
And they actually call that realm where they've built the huge tunnel.
And it has generated the hottest and the coldest spots.
So it's hotter than the sun and it's colder than Antarctica.
And they call that whole region Wonderland.
So you've got the real Alice kicked into high gear there, smashing all these particles together, ostensibly for the purpose of finding the Big Bang and all this kind of stuff, but really working on a totally different level.
With that kind of budget, you know, they're coming back with a budget of 20 billion for CERN, which is definitely a military style budget.
And, you know, it's been cloaked in secrecy in terms of its deeper use, but certainly we understand the military power of working, trying to plug into other dimensions.
So to roll Alice in with that, I think is definitely that kind of thing, looking through a glass darkly.
Oh, absolutely.
And that's a whole other, that's probably a whole other show that we could do.
Well, we're coming back with Surn Tarot Cards, part two.
We know that.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
I want to mention that we do not have the lovely Olivia with us here tonight.
Olivia actually got rear ended a week ago and she's still recovering from that.
She's doing great.
And, you know, the incredible thing that happened when her car was stopped, just coming through all that is.
Beyond remarkable.
So she's done an amazing job and she'll be back with us in the weeks to follow.
But for everyone who's wondering how she's doing, she's doing a lot better.
And she's definitely going to be up for it.
But she knew all about tonight's show and she popped into the chat in the beginning just to let us know that she's out there watching.
We will have her back.
And tonight, we're with Gigi Young.
And, you know, Gigi, one thing that's amazing, especially with this episode, X62, when we go into these subjects and when we're going on the deeper levels esoterically, It's like we need various types of information, historical information, scientific information, but that psychic information, the ability that you have to tap into it.
And we've seen in the work that you do, ggyoung.com, your amazing videos on YouTube, but your work in the X series, it requires now, in order to apprehend a full picture, it actually requires, because so much of the information is psychic by its very design.
Because the mystery schools are so involved in laying these things out, whether it's geopolitical, historical, or in literature.
Frankenstein and Occult Truths00:04:57
The psychic aspect is still not really well understood in modern society.
It's not, and it needs to be desperately more than ever.
The occult side of this has been purposefully hidden because once you understand the occult beliefs, and there are some brave, brave, brave people who talk about them, and you're one of them.
Once you understand the occult beliefs, everything falls apart, just disintegrates.
Suddenly, you can see all the patterns.
And that's why it's the most protected thing.
And there's no coincidence that we are sitting with the soul so divorced from our consciousness and we're in the most materialistic age.
That's not an accident.
The more divorced we become from our soul, the more.
Dense we become, and that's where we are right now.
And they want to keep it that way so that the truth isn't noticed.
And I've even noticed, unfortunately, people's consciousness changing very negatively, where they can't think symbolically anymore, they can't think metaphorically anymore.
Everything is literal.
And when you have that, that's Aramon, that's Armonic, that's when Armin is solidifying everything down.
There's no more nuance, there's no more symbology.
You don't understand Alice in Wonderland anymore.
Right.
Literal, but you just throw it in the garbage because you think it's a literal, crazy book.
What's the point of that?
And that's the danger of where we are now we're losing the ability to, first and foremost, think symbolically and metaphorically, and then allow that to grow into intuition.
We need to get that back.
If we're going to solve anything, we need to get that back.
Right.
It's an entirely different level of understanding.
And it's interesting, you mentioned Arman there, of course, because in Steiner's work in Anthroposophy, Arman is about narrowing down humanity's focus to divorce it from its spiritual heritage because it wants to occupy that space.
And the way he describes the Armanic forces, a dark astral force that moves through technology in the 21st century, it is interesting because you'd have to say that we are in.
This is the kind of this is Araman's period of time virtual reality, the robotics, the transhumanism.
But there's an echo back there in literature, in esoteric themes, Frankenstein, Mary Shelley being a very good candidate for the Orphic Circle, in my opinion.
So we're getting the message that was vouchsafed for us by these groups.
And the echo is coming back to us now.
Yeah.
And it's.
In story, the thing that survives the most, symbology, metaphor.
You know, if we start looking at Frankenstein with the bolts in his neck and the lightning bolts and the electricity that creates him, if we start looking at that as a literal story, you know, that's which is where our consciousness is going is no more creativity.
All of the Hollywood remakes are all the Hollywood movies now are remakes.
There's no originality anymore.
That's Aramon.
You know, there's no Shelley's, if there are Shelley's writing anymore, they don't get to sit at the table.
You know, so it's really a toxic place for creativity and psychics.
But it is all there, as you're saying.
You know, if you read Frankenstein, if you read the Alice, if you read even other fairy tales and myths, it is there.
It's just people are not right now choosing to use those tools and train their consciousness.
Oh, it's a good point.
We have the material, we have the legacy.
From the mystery schools, we have the legacy from these literary figures.
They've given us something great, but it's almost like we have to do the activity to arouse our consciousness to apprehend what they left for us.
And it's easy to get distracted, of course.
And like you said, just think of something like the Alice in Wonderland books as ha ha, funny children's literature, you know, non applicable.
I want to get into.
Who Alice is really, which is going to be an interesting section.
Seven and a Half Degrees00:03:20
Here's something on the math side Alice says her age, and it actually annoys Humpty Dumpty in Through the Looking Glass when she says her age.
She specifically says, I'm seven and a half.
And she makes this kind of pronouncement.
Now, this book came out.
Seven and a half years after Alice in Wonderland, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.
And so the seven and a half theme is coming up as a regular mainstay.
Now, there are mathematicians who've looked at the book and can see the patterns that he uses for math, but I wanted to find out what in math the seven and a half was all about.
And I found this.
Which is a very bland mathematical explanation loaded for purposes of this conversation with meaning.
And I want to mention that this is basically Alice is time itself.
And let's see how this works.
Okay, in mathematics, there are two commonly used units of measurement for angles.
The most familiar unit of measurement is that of degrees.
A circle is divided into 360 equal degrees.
So that a right angle is 90 degrees.
Degrees may be further divided into minutes and seconds, but that division is not as universal as it used to be.
Each degree is divided into 60 equal parts called minutes.
So, seven and a half degrees can be called seven degrees and 30 minutes, written 730.
Each minute is further divided into 60 equal parts called seconds.
For instance, Two degrees, five minutes, 30 seconds is written two, five, three, zero.
The division of degrees into minutes and seconds of angle is analogous to the division of hours into minutes and seconds of time.
He's giving us in seven and a half something very significant because if we take this correctly, Alice, by stating that she's seven and a half, By the way, she hasn't aged by the time she gets to the next book.
But is he giving us the clue there that she is time?
Probably.
I would say so.
Yeah.
Seven and a half.
There we are.
It's fascinating to me because I always feel like when they bring in a figure like Humpty Dumpty, It's very unusual in this setup.
When they bring in seven and a half and he's annoyed by it, it feels like there's an exchange going on there beneath the surface.
Conscious Channeling00:09:10
And once I got into angles on it, I started to wonder about this number seven, which we know is so important in esoteric and occult literature.
So when we're looking at it in terms of, You know, the Orphic Circle and how they worked with these younger girls.
She's seven and a half.
The Orphic Circle worked with girls that were nine to 14 and generally stopped working with them after they were 14, interestingly enough.
So, my candidate for Alice, anyone who watched X episode 15, the candidate is Emma Britton.
Emma Britton was a young mystic who was trained to basically take her somnambulist visions and apply them towards situations of state, situations for literary figures, and the people who drew her in, she identified them as the Orphic Circle.
The Orphic Circle, we know for a fact, contained characters like Charles Dickens.
Edward Boldware Lytton, who wrote Zanoni and the Coming Race and all that incredible science fiction in the 19th century, who was a, according to Steiner and Blavatsky, a mystery school initiate.
And his work is fascinating and takes place underground predominantly.
But all of these high ranking figures were using Emma to get this information state secrets, the nature of reality.
By putting her into this somnambulistic trance.
And I'm going to show how this feeds into what happens with Alice as she becomes an archetype in all these other stories, including The Wizard of Oz and other ones.
But what is it about the somnambulist trance, Gigi, where they're using her as a sleepwalker to get this information on a higher psychic level?
Yeah, so trance channeling or, you know, the sleeping trances, that's a way to remove the personality of the psychic and enmesh the intuitive just purely into spirit.
And through questions, you'll magnetize the answers, but the personality is removed.
So, any.
Fears or, you know, likes or dislikes that would normally perhaps sway information one way or another with an intuitive, that is removed when you are a deep trans channel.
Also, when you are doing that, you can actually take on the personality of people get very superstitious about this, but you can actually take on the other personalities of deceased people or whatever.
That's also part of trans channeling, but it's all about removing.
The personality so that the information can come in uninhibited.
Right.
Do you think because of Emma's age, well, she started when she was nine, but she worked with them till she was 14.
Do you think that her age had a role in it that as a conscious channel, she wouldn't be able to handle the things she needed, the buffer of her conscious mind being out?
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, if the information.
You really have to.
I think to be a conscious channel, I think you have to have tempered certain things in your life so that there isn't as much of a charge there.
So, you know, it's not as much there.
But I think, as if you're young, if something could appear scary, a vision could appear scary.
And also, you're not going to understand the messages, probably.
Like, you don't have to be a conscious channel, you actually probably have to be a little bit more educated.
So, you probably just don't actually have the index within you at that age to really actually understand the questions, to actually formulate the question within your body to send it to spirit, right?
So, you have to have some kind of, yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
It's interesting.
You have to have some way to process it.
When you do your psychic work, you certainly go into other states of consciousness, but you're still awake.
Yes, I'm not a deep trans channel.
I've never tried it.
Nope.
Does that make you unusual?
I think that maybe it would.
Maybe it would.
You know, it depends on what you're doing.
Certainly, some mediums don't become deep trans channels.
It just depends on how you're going.
I think to do cosmic stuff consciously, maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, fascinating.
There's so much that we still don't understand about that psychic process, I think.
And I've noted, like with your psychic stuff, I think that my own observation with it is that you go somewhere, extract the information, and come back.
That's how it feels to me.
But you're able to do that consciously, which is so it's not like a dream state.
No, I'm completely conscious and I'm here.
You have to really get the balance right.
You have to really get the balance right where you're somewhere else and you're immersed in it, but you can still talk to yourself and you can still ask questions.
You really have to get the balance right.
And it is also immersive for me a lot of the times, too.
So it's like I'm completely there.
Whereas it's not like I'm just receiving an image or a sound or a snippet of something.
It can be really immersive for me, like I'm that person or I'm there, which is also a little bit unusual.
Oh, absolutely.
Oh, it's very interesting.
It's almost like projection.
That's what it sounds like, like taking part in events that are far away.
Yeah, like little, it's like little movie clips.
Or it is, it's like you're somewhere else while you're here.
Most of my energy would be gone, actually, but there's still enough here that I'm not in a somnambulistic trance state.
Fascinating.
I want to mention that you have an intuitive series of intuitive courses available where you show people the ropes on the basic side in more advanced levels.
You know, when it comes to a person's intuition, is that something that anyone can use?
Everyone can and should develop their intuition, even if you never want to.
Do crazy readings with people.
You don't have to do that.
You can use your intuition to sense whether something's dangerous, whether someone's dangerous, whether this business decision is good for you, what your life purpose is.
Psychic information is just more information.
And it's more information to make a decision, it's more creativity, it's more lucidity in life.
Like when you open your pineal gland, you just don't see visions, you see the truth around you.
You see when people are lying to you.
You see when the media is lying to you because you start noticing these larger patterns that exist in a little bit of a higher density.
And as you go up in density, things are a bit more simplified, more archetypal, and you can start noticing them.
So you don't have to be working as a psychic to benefit from it.
Everybody should try to get that part of themselves going again.
We lost it in the fall.
We want to regain what we lost in the fall.
Right.
And this is the kind of.
Biblical fall or spiritual fall in all these traditions.
That's what you're referring to.
The loss of the language, the fall, lowering in density means our whole structure changed.
Our bodies became denser, they changed, our minds changed, and we had to get rid of these abilities where we were sensing all these higher dimensional things and it simplified into this more dense perception of reality, but we can get it back.
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And that's, you could argue that that's the purpose of life, is to get that nuanced way of seeing and living back.
You could argue that.
I would argue that.
Yeah, right, definitely.
You would.
That is fascinating actually because when I think of the figure of Edgar Cayce, for example, and his work, which I think we're still discovering it because there's been so much kind of marketing and people borrowing his name for this or that, and like, you know, Edgar Cayce predicts, or I'm Edgar Cayce reincarnated, or so you know, we have a lot of jokers out there about it.
But really, when you look at the incredible work, body of work that he did, one thing that fascinates me is when he is viewing Past events in ancient Egypt or in Atlantis, it's like he's looking at a viewer and telling you what is taking place.
There's a famous story about he's about to give a reading for somebody, and they say, Well, go ahead and start the reading.
And he said, Well, there's traffic, and he's on a bus across town.
He's coming, the guy was in New York.
And so these soul forces of Casey's are trekking with this guy till he gets in his apartment, lies down.
And so they called the guy and checked in on it and found that this was the case.
So that thing is working in real time in Casey's era, but it also goes all the way back as far back as he wants to go.
When you get into that level, time isn't an obstacle, apparently.
No, time is only something that kind of compresses us into 3D.
Once you go into the higher realms, you don't move according to time like on a film strip, you move according to resonance.
So basically, what you have to have to read the Akashic records or to know where someone is is you have to, and this is a totally hard to explain tangible psychic thing, but you have to have that person's resonance, what it is to you.
Once you have that resonance, and it could be Atlantis, what that is to you, then you can go there.
And so it's all done via resonance.
If you can, within you, embody the resonance of that person or of that thing, you will traverse time to the closest possible.
Resonance of that.
So it's as though, in that no time space, everything moves according to resonance rather than linear.
But the linearness helps us understand that exact process.
It's hard to.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's fascinating because it sounds like there's an energy signature that you need.
It's almost like turning the key in the lock, you have to be able to resonate on that same frequency.
You have to create it.
You have to recognize what the 4D is.
It's almost like they're threads and you got to put them all together.
You got to know what it is.
You got to create it in your being very loudly and then you can go.
You got to create it inside of you.
If you don't know how to do that, you have to start working on building emotions very purposefully and mirroring things.
You have to start there.
But you have to be able to hold that frequency within you.
And that's how.
A question is a frequency.
When you ask a question, you'll notice that your spirit guides will usually answer it in a few days or in a dream.
So that's kind of like that.
Interesting.
Well, prayer is a question in a sense, too.
It's very interesting.
There's like a call and response that's involved in that whole activity.
That's quite fascinating.
You mentioned mirroring in there.
Yes, it is.
It's mirroring.
Exactly.
What is that but a process of mirroring?
If you're creating something, And then you're automatically brought there.
It's as though the psychic realm is mirroring what you are.
And that's why people who have past lives, like Edgar Cayce in Atlantis, he's so good at reading Atlantis because he can create those, whether he realizes it or not, he's able to mirror that.
He's able to create that in his body and go there because, you know, he was there because that's the specialty.
So he's rising that way.
And psychics are like that.
You'll find them, especially ones that go back and Time, you'll find them really good at certain areas, certain things, certain areas, and it's because they have that resonance within them and they're using it.
Other places may be more symbolically referenced psychically rather than exact.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
And there's a whole kind of symbolic version versus you actually having an experience there.
So if you're in ancient Egypt, you're going to be able to use your soul memory in order to be there, to actually visit.
That's one of the best ways.
You can probably get shown things, but if you're doing time stuff, For me, it's always so immersive unless somebody's spirit guide is directly showing you something.
If you're working with somebody and they're enmeshing with you, their guide, or something, then you can get it by tandem.
But if you're just doing something by yourself and you don't have, like with the Orphic Circle, they had all these rules about who could be there and stuff.
You couldn't be sick, you couldn't be whatever.
And it's because they're a reference point for the reading.
So, the psychic could pull from any of their lives, any of their past lives, any of their whatever is useful to the psychic.
Peter's used that as a reference point because it's all merged.
That's why there's all those rules, I think.
So, it gets a little complicated, but it is all mirroring.
Fascinating.
I'm glad you said Orphic Circle there because we're just about to go into this Orphic Circle setup.
And everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist show.
Fantastic to have so many of you here with us.
And we did start late.
We had all kinds of wonderful tech issues going on, but they're solved now, apparently.
And thank you for hanging in there.
Now, we're going deep in X Steganography Series Episode 62, which is Alice, the Mirror Initiate through the Looking Glass with Gigi Young.
And I want to say this about Gigi's work too, which is you want to go to ggyoung.com and sign up for her courses.
There's an intermediate course.
There's a beginner's course.
Those are the things, those are the tools that will help you to understand a lot of this information.
Also, Gigi's work is some of the most outstanding psychic work I think I've ever run across.
And is there anything you want to say about your courses, Gigi?
Yeah, no, just that, you know, they're for beginners.
If you're just starting, you know, Inner Mystic is great.
And then there's even a little bit more advanced where I do exercises with you to get a taste of it and everything.
There's protection.
Yeah.
It sounds like a well rounded package.
Yeah.
The intuitive tools you need for the X series.
Okay.
Emma Britton.
So, Emma was recruited because of her unusual abilities.
How they spotted her abilities is interesting.
You know, her grandfather was known as the Welsh Wizard, and her actual name was Emma Floyd.
So, going back there, Wales, Floyd, there's an echo back there of.
This kind of psychic lineage.
And she was right in the heart of it, and they had identified her.
So I'm going to read a few quotes from Emma, who, again, working at a very young age as a somnambulist trance channel for some very, very sort of noble people in society in that period of the 19th century.
This is how she describes it for herself Quote, when quite young, in fact, before I became acquainted with certain parties who sought me out.
And professed a desire to observe the somnambulistic tendencies for which I was then remarkable.
I found my new associates to be ladies and gentlemen, mostly persons of noble rank, and during a period of several years, I and many other young girls assisted at their sessions in the quality of somnambulists or mesmeric subjects.
At their sessions in the quality of somnambulists.
No, I'm sorry.
It was one of the leading regulations never to permit the existence of the society to be known or the members thereof named until they passed on from this earth to higher life.
It is in virtue of this last clause that I am at liberty to say that Lord Lytton, the Earl of, Lord Lytton, Bulwer Lytton, the writer of Zanoni and other books, the Earl of Stanhope, and Lieutenant Morrison.
The author of Art Magic belonged to this society.
From the age of 12, my public life commenced, and anyone who has become acquainted with the severe studies which musical artists are called upon to pursue in Europe will scoff at the idea that any leisure could have been afforded me those metaphysic and scientific studies.
One of the things I want to mention here is that Emma, after her father died when she was 13, The society sets her up with this musical career.
She's been studying music all along, and they send her off to France, basically.
And they've basically lost their connection through the father, the ability to use her for these trance sessions.
So they set her up with a very nice life after the fact.
Now, she says, never understood by those around me.
It was only in after years when I became called and associated with the secret society of occultists.
And attended their sessions in London as one of their clairvoyant magnetic subjects, that I myself began to comprehend why a young girl, fairly educated and blessed with many advantages, should be branded with such peculiarities of disposition as must inevitably shut her off from all companionship with children of her own age and standing.
The Society of Occultists, to whom I can now only allude and who are named in Ghostland, which is her book, as the Orphic Circle.
Branded, obtained knowledge by means I am not at liberty to mention of those persons whose associations they desired.
The Orphic Circle, Gigi, they were politicians, they were high ranking literary figures like Dickens.
This incredible display and being able to keep it secret of using.
These young people for these psychic trances.
What do you think they were after here?
When they were having the circles?
Yes.
I think it could be as serious as information about politics and global stuff, and as mundane as creative ideas for literature or deceased relatives.
Depending on what was necessary, it's possible that any and all of those things could have been.
Targeted.
No, it's very mundane.
Yes, absolutely.
Well, I'm just thinking about how we would think, you know, it sounds like, oh, you know, some secret society grabbing these people, using them, using their psychic abilities.
What a terrible group of people.
And yet, over and over again, in her autobiography, she thanks them for helping bring out her abilities and for all the wonderful things she learned about the spiritual world working with the Orphic Circle.
Of which now we're going to provide the links to Lewis Carroll's work and the Orphic Circle and Alice and how Emma is that kind of Alice archetype going into this work.
But it is interesting.
It's kind of like what you were saying about Alice.
If we were to mention it now, it sounds like people would say all these things about, oh, they were using her for psychic work and all the rest of it, when in fact she felt incredibly honored by the whole experience.
Well, I think people have to keep a few things in mind.
You know, around the 1800s, I mean, there are people, there were children literally working in, I think, coal mines and, you know, in factories and all this crazy stuff going on.
So that doesn't even compare to the Orphic Circle in that sense.
Right.
But I think one of the things that people have to realize is that when you're a psychic child, you are not seeing the world the way that a non psychic child is seeing the world.
Right.
Not.
You are seeing people.
You are perhaps having dreams where people are visiting you.
You're looking at people and you're seeing the aura.
You're hearing voices.
So, what do you do?
But hopefully, to maybe somehow develop that child so that he or she can use those abilities in their life.
And people always go and say, well, this is a very negative thing.
And I don't doubt that people don't use psychic children negatively.
I don't.
Think that that doesn't happen.
I think it does.
And I think that Epstein is an example of that potentially.
But I think we have to realize that do you have a better idea of what to do with a psychic child?
How are you going to raise her?
Are you going to put her in a home because she hears voices?
What are you going to do with that child?
And then you're like, well, maybe we should create a program where she learns how to read them from people who have been doing this a long time.
And so it starts to make more sense if you think about the seriousness of having a child who has a different perception than you.
Or a different perception that you don't understand.
Wow, absolutely.
When you look at Alice in Wonderland, are you seeing a psychic child?
Yeah, I definitely think it's a psychic child.
And, you know, psychic children are usually really imaginative.
You know, whenever I see a child and they're playing by themselves, they're talking to animals, or there's fairies in the garden, I'm like, that's a psychic child.
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And Alice does this with her cats, and she, she, she, the way that she lives, she has conversations.
She's typical.
She has the imagination, and imagination is everything with psychic ability.
You have to have that turned way up if you want to be a psychic.
Starts with imagination, but then things start coming in that make a whole lot of sense.
And so she's definitely the archetype of a psychic, creative little girl.
Wow.
You said archetype.
You've got the words tonight, Gigi, because you're taking the words right out of my mouth.
Okay.
A couple of things.
And there is that you referenced this earlier about time.
The hurrier I go, the behinder I get.
Rabbit in.
Alice in Wonderland giving us a message there that the astral code of time doesn't work like the physical code of time.
It's a totally different thing, a totally different standard.
So it turns out that the person who Charles Dodgson, Lewis Carroll, used as a model the most amount of time in his photographs was a girl named X.
And who was the daughter of his friend George Kitchen, who also was there at Oxford with him.
And the lineage of Alice and the lineage of the Orphic Circle we're going to reveal here in bits and pieces.
This is X, or sometimes as he called her, Xy.
This is her picture, and that's her name there.
Anyone who's familiar with X steganography in the series understands the significance.
Of her name being X.
And the fact that she is working with Carol through these Orphic Circle ages.
I'm getting, when I looked through the past and I was looking for the different candidates for who he was working with to develop these somnambulistic trance features for the Orphic Circle, again, being literary and a part of it, not only that, but he was also.
You know, he would spend time with the Queen.
I mean, Lewis Carroll had an amazing network there.
He was a very well connected individual.
But one of the things that I'm getting when I was looking at it was as a member of the Orphic Circle, he is practicing here in Alice in Wonderland, bringing that story out.
But as he's doing it, he's actually working with these potential trance channels that her name is actually, I found interesting.
Then when I went and looked at her dad, Whose name is George Kitchen, and that he worked at Oxford and was connected with this Ashmole, which is the wing of Oxford that has all this Rosicrucian library and it goes into a very significant figure.
He now was a big proponent of Sir Francis Bacon.
Sir Francis Bacon, we did a show on just last month, and he launched this book, The New Atlantis, on July 4th.
And the American Revolution picked up on that for New Atlantis for America.
And that's how we got July 4th.
They actually waited significant delays to make it that date.
Well, it turns out that Alice in Wonderland was released on July 4th.
Was it?
Wow.
Yeah.
So we're getting that thread of these dates around it.
And this is another shot of X.
And again, she's an excellent music student.
That's what she does, just like Emma Britton.
So, Lewis Carroll now working directly with X. Seems like it's bringing us into that realm of the X steganography, and he's working that around.
Now, a couple of quick things about her.
Exie, Alexandra Kitchen.
She was the favorite photographic subject of Lewis Carroll.
She was the daughter of George William Kitchen.
Okay, her godmother was Alexandra of Denmark, then Princess of Wales, who had been a childhood friend of her mother.
And she also had other siblings.
What I think is significant.
Is that unlike Alice Waddell and some of the others who worked with Lewis Carroll, she didn't leave any biographical record, no memoirs, nothing in relation to her work there.
So she becomes, for me, the kind of archetype of him working with Alice.
And so Emma Britton giving us the theme from the Orphic Circle, and then he's bringing out Alice in Wonderland through the looking glass.
In this initiation ritual in the second book.
When we look at the initiation ritual, the fact that she becomes a queen, Alice, that is, at the end of the book with help from the White Knight.
What does that tell us, Gigi?
Well, it's interesting that I think you were mentioning she was coming from actually a royal lineage.
Yes.
So that's interesting there.
I think maybe being queen is graduating from the Orphic Circle.
And, you know, maybe that's what the seven and a half is because the Orphic Circle is usually seven, right?
Yes.
Yeah, I graduating from being, she's moved beyond the, you know, her issue of it.
Right.
Well, it's fascinating because in the first one, she's getting pushed around mostly.
Oh, yeah, she's commanding.
She's masterful like the egg and she's commanding her energy.
Nice.
That's a really good point, actually.
Sleeping Beauty comes to mind, but Alice in Wonderland sleeps a lot and these things happen.
There's a shot of her asleep in the classic story.
Dorothy in the poppy fields.
Again, sleep trance, somnambulism.
She.
The whole Wizard of Oz thing takes place as a dream or does it using the same thing.
In Labyrinth, she gets put in a kind of a trance by David Bowie, the main character played by Jennifer Connolly.
We've got this theme over and over again, and Emma Britton gave us the key by saying it's the somnambulistic trance thing that the Orphic Circle wanted me to go in because I can access so much when I'm in that trance state.
Now, the amount of Shots of Alice Liddell asleep, and then X asleep.
Gigi, it seems to me taking pictures of them asleep has esoteric significance.
Yeah, I think they're in the dream world.
Maybe that was in between questions of a somnambulistic trance.
Right, right, exactly.
The dark side of that, let's say in The Exorcist, we have Reagan, who she, all these things happen to her while she's sleeping, while she's in bed, and it is, you know, it's demonic activity.
So it has those safeguards have to be set up when you go into this realm.
And you could look at some of the things that happen in Alice in Wonderland as her fencing.
With demons in a sense.
Yeah, that's a really good point.
Yeah, she is challenged and she does have to face a lot of her fears and all of that.
Yeah.
It's interesting in The Exorcist, Linda Blair plays that character, Reagan, and she doesn't have any of the safeguards going in.
She doesn't have that Orphic Circle guiding her through that realm.
And so she's instantly.
Uh, taken on by you know Pazuzu or whatever they they mentioned there, uh, the Sumerian dark demon.
It's interesting because you mentioned the white, you mentioned the white knight, and that's a masculine force.
And so, you need the masculine force either in a larger scale, in larger psychic ceremonial events, or even just within the psychic herself.
You need that energy to stabilize you so you don't get carried away, so you don't get become ungrounded, you don't get lost.
It's the white knight, it's the light masculine energy that is that protective energy in a very real ritualistic sense, but also in an inner sense.
And so you can have that support externally, but you really have to develop that within yourself.
You have to develop trust and you have to develop, as a psychic especially, that grounded masculine energy that holds space for you, that is discipline, that is that force.
You need that to be queen.
Otherwise, you're going to be all over the place, and that is no use to you or anyone else.
Right, right.
That is when it gets to being a plaything for astral forces, that's kind of scary stuff.
It's comical, but it's scary too.
Well, I mean, it's like the definition of insanity for a lot of you know, that's what happens when people become kind of insane is that exact thing.
Yeah.
If you take yourself, As a kind of, not to put you on the spot, but you're the psychic who's around right now.
So I'm going to ask you if you took yourself as an archetype of a kind of Alice in Wonderland, in a sense, because not everyone can go into those states, or maybe they can, but they don't on a regular basis like you do.
When you go into that state, you need to have a certain amount of safeguarding before you're able to open up to this whole sea of information.
Yeah, you really do.
One of the best possible things you can do is understand how important emotions are and building feelings inside of your body.
You can make it so your body generates energy in a certain way, layered in, where you're invisible to certain things, or you just don't really mesh with the lower astral.
And it's all to do with your thoughts and your feelings.
And it takes a lot of discipline to actually build up inside of you this patterning of positive thoughts and emotions.
But that's exactly the core of what keeps you safe.
Or it's the core of what keeps you in the upper part of that astral realm, the upper part of Wonderland, the upper part of the looking glass where you want to be.
Now, everyone, even me to this day, I'll have a bad day.
I'm tired.
I'm hungry.
Whatever.
You're never immune to dipping into the lower astral.
Or you have scar tissue.
You have wounds.
You have superstitions.
You're going in there.
Anyone who tells you they never go there is lying to you and running the other direction.
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Right, right.
Called into the underworld, the deep, dark, nasty underworld.
And we have to bring ourselves out of it.
And that's a huge part of psychic work.
And a lot of that is that discipline, that masculine energy within yourself to say, this is my reality.
This is, I'm going here.
I'm in control.
And that is that queen energy of commanding that space.
And so that's very metaphorical.
Yeah, it is.
It's interesting that the queens show up.
In this way, in the first book, and that she's having all these hassles with them, and that she goes from a pawn to a queen through this initiation ritual in the second book.
She seems to have claimed her power the second time around, whereas she's sort of slapped around in the first one.
And it's not too terrible, but you know, the Cheshire Cat and stuff, they are trickster characters.
Oh, yeah.
And I think even.
I don't think they'll ever go away.
I think that's part of the thing you're always going to be confronted with trickster characters.
You're always going to have to learn discernment, you know, but you just get better at it in truth.
You just get faster at it and better at it, but they're always going to be those trickster characters from Wonderland.
You just have to get initiated into getting better at noticing the patterns.
But yeah, in the second, in the looking glass, she's treated differently.
She's treated with more respect and she's interacting at more of their level.
Than before.
Right, absolutely.
The appearance of Tweedledee and Tweedledum and Humpty Dumpty and more established figures in fairy tale lore the Queen of Hearts and the Red Queen, two different figures.
And the Queen of Hearts, I noted, carried a lot of X steganography.
She's actually wearing three X's in her breastplate and she's wearing an X. Interestingly enough, that combination really of once we get into chess and cards, when I think about the Gurdjieff system,
they talk about how cards are a literal representation of the centers of a human being, and that the higher emotional centers were represented in the king and queen cards, and that this is like a major part of.
What needs to be unblocked in mystery school work.
Seeing the queens show up and the red queens, that started to get me thinking the mystery school stages that are being described in Alice in Wonderland.
Later, we get that with Gurdjieff telling us how they go through these stages to develop these abilities.
It's like a mystery school lesson book.
Yeah, it really is.
I mean, he even mirrored his own name in there.
You learn it through Latin, yeah.
No, it definitely is.
And I think that you could read it so many different times in your life and get something new from it every single time.
And that's always an indicator that it is a mystery school teaching, you can read it again and again and again and always get something different from it.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
There is, you know, I've played a lot of chess and I'm known as a pretty good chess player.
Beating someone in 11 moves is Really, quite remarkable.
You had to be quite good to do it.
And there's a number of chess people, as I mentioned, who've analyzed the moves of Alice on the board there in this whole sequence that actually takes place, of course, in this kind of psychedelic chess board that she sees through the looking glass.
One of the things that was noted by a chess expert in looking at this is that in chess, you know, you have the king and the queen and the pawns and the knights and the rooks and the bishops.
There's no bishops in any of the stories in Through the Looking Glass.
You've got all the other pieces represented, but bishops are absent, which I think is telling us something.
Bishops have almost like a religious connotation, but that's something I think it has to be, you know, by omission, creating a mystery.
I think it makes sense.
I think that he's saying that this is beyond.
This is beyond religion.
This is beyond dogma.
This is beyond human being, human almost.
It's like it's beyond.
And maybe even a warning to not make it dogmatic.
There's no place for that here.
And maybe, yeah, I mean, I think it makes sense because, you know, in theosophy, their whole thing is the truth is the highest religion or religion is the highest truth.
That goes with that as well.
So, yes.
Yes, absolutely.
That's very important.
I think that they laid that out there, which is that religion took us to a certain place.
But then beyond it, you have to kind of apprehend your own spirituality.
And it can't just be, it's not always in a church.
That's just not the nature of the sovereign human being.
Although some people always choose to find it there.
Fascinating.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
We're here with Gigi Young going deep.
Through the looking glass, uh, with Alice the Mirror Initiate and drawing in those aspects of the Orphic Circle.
Um, I cited X episode 15, which was Alice in CERN Wonderland that we did, and it's a good setup for this episode.
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Our guest tonight is at ggyoung.com.
It's Gigi's work on the X series.
I've always said this that there's no better friend or ally to the X series than Gigi.
And you can find, of course, her work on YouTube as well.
Just for a moment, Gigi, tell me about the In Plain Sight series that you're doing about these esoteric symbols being hiding out in plain sight.
Yeah, so I have a series.
I think I'm on episode eight tomorrow, and it's basically explaining how occult symbols and even rituals and behaviors are completely in plain sight.
And we're always participating in rituals all the time.
We don't even realize it.
And there's a part of our consciousness that's being manipulated, activated, and possessed by kind of certain people.
And certain forces because we're not occupying it.
If we refuse to make a connection with our higher self and with our higher mind and we don't occupy it, then other things will.
And that's the subconscious mind.
We're getting bombarded with all of that.
And even with big tech right now, it's coming out that there's all these subliminal things going on and to do this and that.
And so we're really needing to understand how our subconscious mind works and how the occult works.
And so I have a program that, um, On my YouTube channel, where I explain that and I give examples of it, and even I'm going into blood this month, and then I'll go deeper into other things.
I'm going there, I'm going into the darkest stuff.
I'm going, and I hope you go with me.
I hope we can maturely assess the occult in society.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's my goal.
Well, it's like the 800 pound gorilla is out of the closet, and you have to learn to assess what you're looking at here.
People just take in so much, like music videos.
And, you know, it's crazy how we could be literally aligning ourselves with timelines that we don't want or need because we're not aware.
And, you know, so we have to be really wake up to that because once we're aware, it's a different game.
You don't have to be an expert and know what it means.
Just your awareness changes the game.
That's how powerful awareness is.
So, yeah.
Wow, fascinating.
One of the things I noticed about the series that you're doing really well is you.
Doing a lot of video development inside of it.
And I think that you're using those visual skills to bring the narrative home.
I mean, you certainly are giving an exposition on a particular thing, but the visuals that you're using, I think, are quite fascinating.
Yeah, I hope it's working because it's hard to sometimes, these concepts are scary and they're esoteric and they're hard to understand.
And so sometimes you need some visuals or whatever to bring it home because it's a strange topic.
People are really superstitious about it too.
But yeah.
Yeah, right.
And sort of prejudice.
The moment that you mention something like blood, which we all have, and that's working esoterically, whether we realize it or not.
The moment that you mention it, people are like, I don't want anything to do with that.
It's like, why?
It's in you.
You should know what the esoteric significance of that, the history of it is, so that we know what's going on.
We have to mature a lot spiritually.
Society is quite superstitious about a lot of things that we need to mature about.
Absolutely.
Well, The Search for the Grail is the greatest esoteric study, and that's all about blood and the blood transference in the Mass, Catholic ritual Mass.
Right.
So there's no question that it's there, and it's there for a reason.
And I really feel that stripping away the superstitions around those things to getting to the point, the way you're doing with the series, is great, actually.
I want to really encourage people to watch it.
And it's great that you're on episode eight already because I think I'm up to about six.
I have to watch the last two.
Kind of long, yeah.
They're great.
Fantastic.
Let me introduce a couple of things here.
William Lilly and Elias Ashmole.
William Lilly was a noted astrologer and mystic in the 17th century who was incredibly well connected, and his patron was Elias Ashmole.
Now, the branch of Oxford that has The Ashmole, his library, everything that's been donated there.
It's so incredibly esoteric, and he's such a deep Rosicrucian, which we know is one of the hardcore Western mystery schools.
That is where Lewis Carroll was working when he was at Oxford.
That's where, instead of becoming a priest, he said, Can I keep on at Oxford if I am working?
In the Ashmolean wing of Oxford, please?
And they said, yeah.
And that's where he meets a lot of these interesting people that he goes together, like the father of X.
So when he goes there, he has access now to this whole Ashmolean, Rosicrucian branch of thought.
Now, I have tied back the Orphic Circle and their activities and the whole Lewis Carroll.
Approach on Alice back to the Rosicrucians.
And we've seen the rabbits going down the rabbit hole in their early artwork.
And the looking glass aspect is in some of their main three books that came out with the Rosicrucians in the 1600s.
I want to draw our attention to Ashmole for a couple of reasons.
It is his activity that brings about this great renaissance that when we get to the Orphic Circle, And he is also very well hooked up with all of these seers and astrologers, but he's also close to being like a noble citizen as well.
He's a very interesting, complex figure.
A couple of things I want to mention about him is that he was close with William Lilly.
Now, William Lilly, having been this kind of prophet, He predicted the London fires 14 years before they happened.
But a few things about his life popped out at me that I want to read here to give us this background to find out the root of what this whole thing about Alice and the Orphic Circle is.
One of the things that Lily wrote was curious tales about the effects of crystals, which I think is pretty advanced when you think about it.
Then, when we go deeper into his life, we start to see that as an astrologer, he has quite a remarkable access to higher aspects in societies.
He's regarded so highly for his predictive work.
So, when he goes and retires, he starts writing these books.
And one of the books is called Strange News from the East: A Sober Account of a Comet or Blazing Star That's Been Seen.
Several mornings late in 1677.
Sounds like UFO activity.
I mean, literally, his books are like this.
Another one is Mr. Lilly's hieroglyphics.
They didn't even have the Rosetta Stone deciphering hieroglyphics until 1799.
So here he is 100 years earlier going into hieroglyphics.
So the one that really caught me, though, was about a prediction that he made, and it's called The Prophecy of the White King.
And again, we're getting into that White Knight imagery, the White King in the Alice in Wonderland work, England's.
Prophetical Merlin and his book from 1644 Supernatural Sights and Apparitions Seen in London, 1644.
So here's a guy who's at the height of society, but he's opening up areas of like psychic activity, apparitions, supernatural, and even what sounds like an early attempt to get at UFOs.
So, in terms of the foundation, and we think of this Ash Mall.
Who is his patron and really sets him up.
And then Elias Ashmole will take a quick look at his background, and it's going to lead the whole thing is going to lead us back to our friend Lewis Carroll.
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All right, Ashmole, antiquarian with a strong Baconian leaning towards the study of nature.
Here he is again, Francis Bacon.
Francis Bacon, New Atlantis, released 1520, July 4th.
Talking all about this mystical island that still existed out there.
And everyone picking that up as a flag to America is going to be this new Atlantis.
Here he is in the middle of all this, promoting people like Lily, astrologers, and all the rest.
But he's also a Mason.
But when we go into his background, we're starting to see with Ashmole that he.
Gets fascinated by translating Latin alchemical works, one by Arthur Dee, who's the son of John Dee.
So we know that John Dee, as we started the program off with, had these scrying mirrors.
And again, the looking glass aspect with Alice and the fact that Carol is taking his information from this Rosicrucian part of the mystery school tradition.
And here we have Ashmal, who's a major Mason and Rosicrucian, creating the largest repository of knowledge anywhere with this incredible library.
Now, one of the things I found very interesting in that library is a shot of Ashmal.
This is a.
Ooh, is that velvet?
He's certainly a confident looking individual, for sure.
He.
Interesting things are donated.
To this wing.
And the one that I found the most interesting is this, which is Akhenaten and Nefertiti with their kind of cone head shapes in this particular depiction.
That was donated in the 19th century to Ashmole's wing at Oxford.
And this is where Lewis Carroll finds himself.
But Gigi, the mystery school traditions, harkening back to Akhenaten, moving us through the Rosicrucian era into actually informing us psychically through things like fairy tales by the 19th century, it's an interesting pattern.
It is.
It's almost like they've just been sort of taking a temperature and then handing out all of the necessary, culturally significant psychic development, not even necessarily psychic development, but just truth.
You know, and just leaving it out there for people if they choose to engage.
And here we are, sort of right in the middle of it, because his crest that he designed himself is Mercury with two Gemini twins.
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Now, we did all of this interesting work in Steiner's Planetary Seals, which is an episode you and I did, I think, back in March.
And Steiner was telling us look, You have to understand something if you want to understand astrology and if you want to understand astronomy, which is at a certain point there was a great switch that took place between Mercury and Venus.
And that what you know through the traditions starting about the third century up as Venus is actually Mercury and Mercury is a Venus.
These are esoteric moves to change something, to change perception, to Block information from coming out.
It's very unusual then that he's using this mercury.
It seems to be a steganography that they're communicating with each other, that they know these things.
Well, if it was changed to protect certain esoteric pathways, like the resonance is changed.
So then if you don't have the right resonance, remember, you can't access it.
Right.
Talked about that.
So the resonance was changed.
So it can't be accessed, which is why that was.
Done, but if you knew what the original thing was and you used it in a certain way, then you were showing that you were in a certain inner circle and that you were aware of that particular ritual that was done or whatever was done to protect that esoteric pathway.
You would be showing that you're essentially initiated into that particular, which would mean a lot socially, politically, especially in times of war or struggle, things like that.
It would be really significant.
Oh, actually, it's a great point.
You know, when I think about it, and we touched on it, but what's fascinating to me is when you look at them switching Mercury and Venus, why do you think they did it?
Because it's never explained even in the Steiner literature, only that it happened for a very important reason.
Well, from what I've seen in my work, I'm looking into this, well, my work with you looking into this is the pathway.
Was purposefully switched because there were people that were trying to use it in a very, very, very destructive way.
And if that pathway was used in a destructive way, then the planet essentially would be disconnected and it would go in a very negative spiral.
And so it had to be shifted to protect the planet from going into those sort of negative spirals that this very dark group was trying to use it for.
So it had to be protected.
And with that protection, it also allowed certain incarnations to take place.
And it allowed that group to also take control of an aspect of certain rituals and certain things so that they could be preserved and so that humanity could have hope and that it could stay original and so that even so certain incarnations could take place one after another and so that there could be a pathway out.
If you imagine like a bunch of possessed, nasty people.
Suddenly trying to like live in your house, what are you going to do?
You're going to change address, you're going to move it.
And so that's what I feel or what I see is done.
So they changed the X, the X was changed.
And there are certain people that know the details of that and certain people that will probably never know the details of that.
Oh, wow.
You know, one of the things that's really, really interesting.
One of the things that you do so well is you know how to bring in the subject of stargates and portals.
And their significance in a way that's different.
A lot of people and a lot of the work I've seen, honestly, around Stargates, it's not very believable.
And yet we know that there's a real tradition of portals and Stargates.
And one of the things I think that you do well when we look at something like the Mercury Venus switch, that is saying all your computations for Stargates and portals get thrown out the window if you're not in with this group who knows that that switch has taken place and you have the right coordinates.
Yeah, exactly.
You have to be rooted in the right stars that can even represent different densities or different initiations, lots of different ways.
Because Stargates can also be within us, too, you know, to channel even.
So, yeah, when you're hiding that, it's exactly as you said.
It's exactly as you said.
They're hiding a specific portal.
And if you think of it, imagine like Aramon.
You don't want Aramon using that portal.
And because we can already see.
What the harmonic consciousness has done to ISIS, right?
They named that, you know, there's this group in the Middle East called ISIS that destroys everything.
There's this whole thing about taking that Venus energy and destroying it and perverting it and things like that.
So we can see that even in our little dimension, our little world, we can see the bomb that went off.
We can see what was going on.
If we look around today, we can see the battle that's taking place.
If you have your eyes, you can notice the patterns.
But so the switch was exactly as you said to switch that Stargate around.
So that stuff wouldn't be.
Happening to that degree on the esoteric plane, especially because everything will cycle through again, right?
So you have to protect that part.
Oh, it's fascinating.
Um, everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show, we're here with Gigi Young, and um, it's X Series 62 Alice the Mystery School Mirror Initiate.
Um, going through the looking glass really deeply here with Gigi on this.
Um, Gigi, when you take a look at something, um Like Stargate information.
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You would need, if you were working along these lines, you'd need an Orphic Circle, basically, to understand what it is and the times when it's open.
Yeah, you definitely, I think you definitely would.
You'd have to have somebody specifically, a machine can't sense that subtle of a frequency, first of all.
So you'd have to have.
You'd have to have sensitive people that were from past lives or whatever that were initiated into sensing that very, very distant light.
So you'd have to have that.
Maybe even if, especially in the Orphic Circle, people who had worked with it before, like what we were talking about with the mirroring and resonances and things like that, you'd have to essentially organically, with a human, you know, build that inside of you.
And then through correct psychic positioning, you'd have to do that.
That's what I would.
It needs to be an organic human thing, yeah, like an Orphic Circle, not like a CERN thing, you know.
Right, right.
That's going backwards again and opening yourself up to that possession.
Here's what's interesting, though.
In Through the Looking Glass, we have the Red King sleeping.
She comes upon him, and Tweedledee and Tweedledum show up, and they say, While he's sleeping, and she says, What is he doing sleeping?
And she says, He's dreaming.
I wonder what he's dreaming of.
And they say, Well, he's dreaming you.
That's how you get to kind of operate in this whole world.
And there we get that deep thing about, you know, your reality is someone else's dream, and all these.
That's where that deep thought, you know, which you hear bandied about a lot, comes from directly from the book.
What is Carol in the mystery school sense?
Trying to connote with the Red King being asleep and dreaming Alice there.
Well, I would have said it was the, you know, like a God, like, you know, that's what God is.
I mean, he's, isn't that what we're all doing?
Is we're in his mind, we're in his chess game, we're doing that.
That's what I would have, that's what I would have said it was.
Yeah.
In like a higher dimension, the Red King is dreaming and we're part of the dream, you know?
Why are Tweedledee and Tweedledee on there?
Well, it's funny because you mentioned Gemini and then maybe there's something else, a Gemini element.
And you also mentioned, I have to say, when you said that Carol was like, I'm not going to be a bishop in his life, he said, I'm not going to be the bishop.
Oh, that's right.
And then that was really interesting too.
Maybe Carol is the king that's dreaming in that.
Ah, that is fascinating.
Um, he got me on that one, I hadn't thought of that.
That's fascinating.
I want to mention something that Lily, I don't know if this will show up actually, but before we leave William Lilly, who was again the astrologer, that, and I find this significant that Ashmole was his patron because Ashmole was this major Rosicrucian force, and that's the wing of Oxford that Carol was working for and had access to that great library and saw all those things about rabbits and, you know, deep, deep down the rabbit hole.
And of course, we see so many things now rip off the white rabbit, you know, and just take that whole symbology and reroute it into this other thing, like we talked about with Alice.
Well, they do it, you know, you've seen that with some of the political things like Q, they do that also.
But interestingly enough, there's a figure that he came up with, which is a square, a diamond, and another small square inside of it, crisscrossed by an X.
And this is his design.
I'll see if it shows up here.
But William Lilly, this 17th century astrologer who was Ashmole's protege and who wrote the book about the prophecy of the white king and all these things, quite an incredible figure.
But the thing I just want to focus on is this design, Gigi, which we have the X embedded inside of it.
What do you make of that design?
And I'll hold it here for a moment.
That's a Stargate.
Yeah.
That's a rabbit hole.
That's a.
You know, that's, I think, a symbol for different.
Like, it's almost like you're looking down different dimensions.
It's showing multi dimensionality, it's showing a stargate, it's showing a rabbit hole.
That's what he's showing, I would say.
Very interesting.
The idea of his very unusual geometric shapes and that he's coming out and saying, I'm a, you know, by the way, I prophesize things and doing it very casually and just being accepted in society at that time.
You know, I find it interesting too because you have this Inquisition type thing going on there.
And this guy is parading around saying he's predicting things, he's showing stargates, he's a major astrologer.
And what I find very strange when I was looking at Ashmal's biography, and we know that we're going to have to do a show, you and I, on Ashmal and the whole movement of work that he has out there.
One of the things I found very interesting about him is that he was recommended to the military.
And it's like the first few words of his bio.
And I'll see if I can read this direct, but he was recommended to the military by an astrologer.
And I was like, what was the military doing in the 17th century using astrologers?
This is interesting to me.
I have never heard of it.
And he, in fact, got these incredible military posts, all because this other astrologer, not Lily, Recommended him for these positions.
One other thing that's dangling, we're not going to be able to solve it, but I find it kind of interesting.
One of the things I want to mention here in relation to Lily and Ashmole is Lily's cottage.
There's a fascinating video of Lily's cottage being renovated in modern times.
But there was a story in the Leicester Mercury, which is a newspaper in England.
And the story was that Lily's cottage, which is still there, had been renovated.
And in the 50s, they had all these pictures of the renovations because they were freaked out.
Because when they stripped down the walls, there were all these astrology symbols, and you had symbols of Mercury, and you had these incredible hieroglyphs and things.
And they were like, what was this guy doing with this place?
Most peculiar, most unusual information.
And I'll tell you, although I've been able to find things relating to the article, the article that showed the images is gone off the web completely.
And I've searched it high and low.
Yeah, but I think Lily and the mystery there with Ashmole being the setup for this is something we're going to have to pursue.
One last mystery along the lines of Through the Looking Glass.
And then, and everybody tonight, we don't have Olivia, so we won't be able to do the questions in a robust fashion.
If you want to put a few questions up there, all in caps, I will read them for Gigi because I would love to hear from you guys.
And just make it all in caps and related to the show that we're doing.
And of course, you're watching Dark Journalist X Series number 62.
This is Alice, the Mystery School Mirror Initiate through the Looking Glass with Gigi Young.
And Gigi's work, of course, at ggyoung.com.
Fascinating stuff.
This is something, Gigi, which is another mystery like the bishop's part.
In relation to the book.
In the first edition of the book, there was a list of dramatis personae, a persona only appeared in early editions of the book.
Carol removed it when it was reissued.
And what he does, interestingly enough, is he matches up pieces with pawns and he says, a piece, Tweedledee.
Pawn, Daisy, Peace, Unicorn, Pawn, Haiga.
And he does this back and forth thing.
But interestingly enough, the White Queen, who she's able to prophesy, and she says to Alice, Oh, I can see events that haven't happened yet.
And she demonstrates this very unusual Orphic Circle prediction ability.
The pawn name for her is Lily.
Oh, that's like, yeah.
Just like William Lilly.
Matt struck me as unusual, and also the fact that he took it out.
A little too much information.
A little, I think it's probably a little too obvious, too much information, or maybe he didn't want it in, but maybe, yeah.
Maybe hinting at a bloodline there or what have you.
Gigi, they're talking lions in.
And through the looking glass, we know about your kind of lion, the way you lock in with that.
What did you make of that, the lion and the unicorn?
Did it strike you at all?
I mean, they do it in a very cartoony fashion for sure.
It really did.
Well, it's such an archetype, and it's everywhere.
But I always kind of think it's like a bloodline thing, like a bloodline battle going on.
That's how I always see it.
Yeah, absolutely.
One thing, jumping to the Lily part again, is Alice takes her place as a pawn in Through the Looking Glass because she's too young.
And they know that she is going to make it eventually, but right now she's too young.
And Alice actually substitutes for her.
That's how she gets in the game.
Kind of a significant role.
Especially if we tie it in with Lily's work.
Yeah, that would be, yeah.
White Queen, you know, putting that, lining that up with Lily, I think it's very interesting.
So we have some dangling mysteries there.
If we were to kind of sum up how we started, and I should say that, you know, the major theme that we started our Alice in Wonderland run with last year was based around the three hairs.
And this very unusual symbol of infinity here that nobody can quite explain, but they find all the way from China to Iran and Egypt and the UK.
What are we getting in esoteric terms from Carol's efforts on behalf of the mystery schools through the Alice information?
With the three hairs?
Yes, like if we take the summation of, let's say, the three hairs are kind of that trigger because it's related to that Rosicrucian aspect where they're using it.
And then again, we have the rabbit being such a powerful symbol, the white rabbit in Alice in Wonderland.
What are we getting esoterically from Carol's two versions of Alice there?
And then, you know, I'm saying related to the three hairs.
Yeah.
Unknown mythology.
Yeah.
Well, I think that the three hairs can be seen as a wormhole or a portal.
And, you know, with Lapis, Pleiades, Venus stepping down dimensions, it's a stargate, just like his squares within squares.
It's the same kind of thing, except the rabbits are letting you know a little bit more exactly what that stargate is.
So it's letting you know an incarnational line, it's letting you know about.
Esoterically, it's letting you know about a certain group that may be coming through that stargate.
Um, certain times when it opens or closed, and what if you know, what if there's certain groups that come through that stargate that are associated with wonderland or the inner earth?
And what if sometimes they come up to the chessboard of life and they play?
And that could be sort of what is talked about here.
Yes.
Well, it all starts with a stopwatch.
It's true.
And it is a rabbit holding it.
Time, the rabbit, a portal, and fertility symbols like rabbits and Humpty Dumpty.
Giving us a kind of a mirror.
Aspect with the through the looking glass, which is different than the first book, saying that in some sense, you know, in Steiner's work, he talks about the eighth sphere is that mirror realm where you can't actually touch it, you can only see it reflected back.
That's it's the nature of virtual reality.
Yeah, well, yeah, that's that's that's a negative, that's like a nightmare realm.
The eighth sphere would be like a nightmare realm version of that, right.
Yeah, yeah, a roller coaster.
Yeah, that's like back to the exorcist again.
Um, fascinating, Gigi, just amazing stuff.
Uh, we, uh, I wanted to shout out to a couple of people because I see a few of them out there Mod Wiz and David Thomas.
You know, um, rabbit is a symbol for the moon, very good, excellent.
And so, as an egg, kind of, yeah, I see Matt Jonas out there.
I know, Matt, you got, um, kind of.
In the wrong category by accident, there.
Occult fan, it's great to see you out there.
Timeless Monks and Saints00:07:15
And Najat, terrific to have you.
You guys can ask some questions in caps if you want to, that I'll run by Gigi.
Why is the rabbit always worried about being late, Gigi?
I think the rabbit is always going back and forth between time and no time.
And I think it's supposed to get us to talk about and to think about the fourth dimension and think about the mirror realm and think about psychic ability and our higher self and all of that.
I think it's to really get us thinking about what time is and the lucidity of time or the malleability of time.
Yes.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Well, we don't understand time very well.
We know how to put pressure and limits on time.
But so many of these esoteric teachings take us into that realm where, when we get a certain amount of information, and I've experienced this too, I believe, to enough of a degree to at least say that it's possible that your relationship to time changes.
It does.
Well, actually, a lot of the Tibetan monks that spend a lot of their time in meditation don't really age.
And so they're like immersing themselves in.
Basically, that timeless state, and they actually don't age.
Like you look at them, and they look completely 20, 30 years younger.
And so, there is a lot about time that we can learn how to hold our energy field where it resonates more with a different plane, and we can transcend death.
And time is something that we have more control over.
We're not subject to it as much.
Fascinating.
Absolutely.
I think about St. Bernadette, Bernadette Subaru.
Who discovered those healing waters with her vision at Lourdes?
And when you look at her body now, it's hardly there's been any change since she died back there over a century ago.
It's quite remarkable.
There was a question that came up, which is why is Alice always referenced in the Matrix to explain what's going on?
They're probably trying to hint at Carol's work.
And they're probably trying to hint at the exact kind of reality shifting phenomenon that, you know, the Matrix is kind of just like a weird version of Wonderland in a way.
True.
Absolutely true.
Gigi, the bishop moves in an X pattern.
Is that why he is left out?
It could be.
I mean, it very well could be.
I mean, it's a good observation that it only moves at this particular angle.
Yeah.
We'll never really know.
I think that's Carol and Ask.
That's actually brutally honest.
I like it.
I like this.
Philip Gillenwater, are we in the rabbit hole now?
You definitely are in the rabbit hole.
Yeah, you should be.
I actually think if you're in the rabbit hole, it's good.
If you're trying to reach a state of lucidity in the world, if you're thinking about consciousness, if you're meditating, that's a good place to be.
Yes, absolutely.
Relationship to time really does change.
And why is that?
Because I think that it has to do with where your personal resonance is most of the time.
And, you know, like Bernadette or these monks are disciplining themselves and training themselves to basically be in a higher state of being.
And when you're referencing that, That energy, you're not subject to it anymore.
You're like beyond it because we exist in all different realms.
So, if we're pulling our energy from a timeless realm, our body isn't going to be as subject to that because we're embodying that.
We're anchored in there and we're embodying it.
Oh, absolutely.
Where is Alice when she comes home?
I think she's in her study, I think, in Looking Glass.
I think she's back and she's holding her kitten in her hand and she's just back exactly where she began.
And that's us in everyday life, right?
It's trying to get us back to saying this is the fantastical realm, and here you are in your regular everyday life.
Yeah, it was all a dream.
That's a good buffer for us because if it's all real, then she's walking around kind of almost schizophrenic.
Yeah, exactly.
Those are great questions.
Will we be live tomorrow?
No, it looks like we're going to be live next Friday at 8 p.m., and I don't anticipate any technical problems.
Was Bacon Saint Germain a timeless being?
This is a good question.
You know, Saint Germain is a Rosicrucian mystery school master, and he did appear in different times.
A lot of people have asked if that was Bacon.
I don't know, of course, but my feeling is that Bacon and Saint Germain are two different people.
Yeah.
I have to say, again, ascended masters, when we get into that, they're still operating.
So they've kind of achieved what you were talking about, which is this spiritual enlightenment, like a lot of yogis do, but they're still here.
And it seems like they can prolong their life or they're not subject to things the way that we are.
And that's the thing.
And some things are just a mystery and they're just there for us to ponder.
But he could have been channeling St. Germain, you know, who he could have been connected, you know.
Yes.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Liberty Thunder, he's out there.
He asked the question Does Humpty represent the planet shift, cracking the resonance, or something about the well being that the wall being that protection that was there about the shifting, symbolizing?
The change.
Humpty Dumpty is a planet.
I think that's what Liberty Thunder is saying there.
What do you think of that?
I think so.
Well, very, very well could be.
I mean, that's the beauty of literature that's written multidimensionally, is that you can take something really esoteric from it that's really valuable today, cracking open, falling off the wall, you know, that kind of thing.
Or it can be, you know, more ancient.
The Eighth Sphere Divination00:04:22
You know, that's the beauty of having a metaphysical mind, is that you can do that.
You can write and speak in such broad strokes, you know, that you can get whatever.
It's almost like a form of divination, really.
If you read a really metaphysical text, you will get something from it that is just like reading tarot cards or just like, you know, scrying, you know, that's what it'll do for you.
And so that's what that could have done for you.
That could be your message as you were listening to us talk about it.
Right, right.
Great one.
You know, what's fascinating here is that a cult fan asked a question that looks really good.
It's what does Gigi think dreaming has to do with portholes?
And then he wrote 11 and 11 after that.
11 and 11, the classic portal.
Dreaming has a lot to do with portals, especially if you can dream consciously.
Dreaming is an opportunity to play with the concept of portals and being out of body and how to move and how to kind of traverse that realm without having to do it through just like popping out of your body and meditation.
So it's a good way to traverse some astral.
Portals and things like that, and to also get information and all of that.
There's a couple here that are really interesting.
How do we get the eighth sphere off of us, Gigi?
Where do we start?
Well, the first thing I think starts with education.
So, you know, Read, you know, Steiner's work around Arman, which is, you know, where the eight spheres really coming from.
That's really our resource.
And then start challenging yourself to look around and say, is that kind of harmonic?
Is that like an eight sphere thing, or how could that be?
And just start to interact with that concept in your daily life and start asking yourself, you know, how am I interacting with machines or how am I interacting with computers?
Just start thinking about it, start playing with it.
And because once it's in your aware, it's amazing.
Once you just start.
Study something and it's in your awareness, the human mind is beautiful.
It will just start to show you where it is and it'll start to work for you.
A lot of it is just educating yourself on exactly what the eighth sphere is and that harmonic force.
But the overarching thing that we can all do is to meditate and to connect with our spirit and to do all of that.
You know, spiritual work, yoga, tai chi, whatever that is, develop a spiritual practice because it's a spiritual practice that gets you out of your shell, out of your egg, and gives you a higher perspective so you can see patterns that you can't normally.
So it's really important to have a daily spiritual practice.
Oh, that's an excellent, excellent point.
It's interesting too about the eighth sphere.
I think about Gurdjieff, who talked about how humanity is asleep and that, you know, we're acting mechanically and acting like machines.
But he also said that we could become more aware working with machines.
So it is, again, our approach to it.
Steiner saying, well, don't be a Luddite.
When it comes to Aramon, engage it, face it full on, face the technology, apprehend the technology for the good of humanity and moving on.
Just don't get absorbed by it.
It's an interesting dance, I think, that he was suggesting there.
Does Gigi have an opinion on Fabergé eggs?
I'm not all.
Well, I mean, I think a Faberge egg could be part of that esoteric tradition of eggs, of Humpty Dumpty, of Easter, of that whole tradition.
It's a way of celebrating it.
Mars, AI, and Neuralink00:14:28
It just got very decorative.
That's all.
Just really took a life of its own.
Faberge.
Oh, about Humpty, you know what's really funny?
I want to mention for people.
There is Humpty Dumpty appears in a comic book with the seven dwarfs.
Unusual.
And they're talking about having honey on pancakes.
There's all this weird stuff, and it was before Alice, so look that up if you're interested because it's the number seven again.
Ah.
So he's appeared.
Humpty has been around and he's appeared around sevens and honey and all sorts of things.
It's really interesting.
I'm looking at Humpty Dumpty completely differently now since really examining his appearance in this one.
It's very, very strange.
Any thoughts on the, this is J.H. Armstrong.
Any thoughts on the everlasting result of the Mercury Venus switch?
Gigi, this is a good question.
That's a great question.
I think the everlasting results, well, I think the initial switch was done in Atlantis before the fall.
And that's my take on it.
And it was sort of carried on.
So, it actually happened, which is a good thing to note because that was a different density.
So, we're actually carrying that switch, that tradition secret down from a different density.
And so, in a sense, because it's almost from a different density, it's that higher density that Atlantis is that really creates the roadmap for this 3D density that we're in now.
So, essentially, Atlantis echoes over and over and over again in different civilizations and in different societies and in different ways.
So, what was A conglomerate in Atlantis is now individuated into many different civilizations, and this battle taking place over and over and over again, so that we can understand it in a deeper and deeper way.
And so, what we're seeing in the long term of the switch is we're seeing it the same thing going on, the same battle going on, the same exchanges going on, but in more precise dynamics than we saw in Atlantis as an opportunity to overcome it and understand it in a deeper way.
But it all does kind of come back to this battling or this.
Kind of protecting of information.
It really, everything comes down to this.
And this is why esoteric information is so important because if you can look at the battles that are going on right now in the world politically, you'll get it.
You will get it.
But if you don't have that esoteric concept of two different societies fighting and what they represent, then you won't understand anything at all because we're repeating it all right now.
From a different.
Well, it's interesting because the two civilizations that Casey identified battling in Atlantis were the Belial group and the Aemilius group.
And the Aemilius group, I can definitely see identifying with Venus, which is what I think that you do.
The Belial group, Mars, is pretty much how you've looked at them.
Is that right?
Yeah.
For me, I see Mars as the descending chain.
Connected with Orion and Saturn.
Not that they're negative altogether, they're not negative, but there is an association that we have that represents the past, and what is past is rotten.
It's done.
For us to approach the past as though it's the future is the essential descension, rotten, becoming too heavy.
So we don't want to tap into Mars.
Elon, we don't want to go to Mars.
It's not what we want to do.
You know, that's not the future.
That's not the ascending sphere.
The ascending sphere is associated with the Pleiades and Venus, and that's the ascending sphere going into Jupiter, and that is what is magnetizing us into a higher consciousness.
And they take turns and everything like that.
But there's a lot, there's a group on this planet that is possessed.
They're not even making sense.
They're just possessed by this past, the previous spheres, the ones that we're not supposed to.
It's like being obsessed with an old relationship or an old whatever, like let it go.
And they can't, they're too heavy.
And so they're obsessed with trying to build this permanent link to Mars.
They want to connect the Earth with Mars, which is.
Essentially, it's a it's it's um, and and and we're seeing it more and more now.
Trump is tweeting about it, and I think that we're esoterically and really um, troubling waters.
Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Well, I uh, I noticed that you commented on a tweet by Elon Musk, and he was saying, Nuke Mars, and you got him pretty good there.
You know, I mean, he that this is something that.
You know, there's people starving in the world.
We have homeless people.
We have a lot of problems, and you're wanting to go and nuke Mars for what?
Why?
This is insanity.
This is crazy.
And not only that, all of the AI stuff that these groups are proposing, like Neuralink, AI is actually anti intuition.
AI is a blasphemy of human intuitive processing.
You don't need a Neuralink.
You just need to develop your organic glands and organs that can traverse time, like we've been talking about, that can hook into the collective.
Consciousness, so we're all linked up.
But the good thing about doing it organically and not synthetically, like Elon is keeps pushing on us, is that when you do it organically, you're in control of the information that you get.
You can go higher if you want, you can be creative.
If you're Neuralink, that's a false version of intuition.
You're being told what you can download, you're being told what you can link into.
But we all crave that interconnectivity that is that next leap of cosmic consciousness and the connection of the heart where we're all linked, kind of like a neural link, but organically.
We all know we're going there.
But they're building synthetic versions like CERN, Neuralink, and it's a blasphemy of our natural process.
And that's connected all into Mars and going backwards, regressing Mars.
Into the past, esoterically, the past spheres.
So, that's fascinating.
Absolutely.
I 100% agree with you.
And I think about Steiner's vision in his cosmology about what we were moving towards, which is this new Jupiter.
And that whole process of harmonic activity through the eighth sphere to create this artificial step to lock us into, because, you know, in anthroposophy, you leave this life, you reincarnate, you go through the chain of planets, you come back, you grow.
And you're developing a wave which is setting up this new Jupiter, which is new Earth.
And the kind of false step that Armand is creating with the eighth sphere is you go into this realm of sort of virtual reality realm and you never make it to those other steps and you don't create the steps necessary for your humanity to create the warmth, ethereal warmth for new Jupiter.
It is a very dangerous situation when you look at it in those terms because you can see easily how people get locked in through addiction.
And other ways and means.
But I think that you pointing it out in terms of artificial intelligence and the way that that's being so laid on the culture in such a blithe fashion, you know, that is really the danger.
And this is something Steiner discusses, which is that type of stuff coming on us unawares.
If we're drowsy and we face Araman, then it's a bad situation because then he is back in that power seat again.
And again, that draws a lot on anthroposophy and the spiritual science of Rudolf Steiner's work.
But that's basically what you're talking about.
That's exactly it.
And the division that we're seeing is what makes us drowsy too.
You know, everybody arguing and fighting and right and left, it exhausts us.
It makes us so exhausted that we can't even imagine doing a meditation.
Like everybody is so overwhelmed and exhausted.
And I believe Steiner talks about that as well that kind of like eternal exhaustion and that drowsiness and.
We have to wake up and go into nature and realize how beautiful we are, and we're part of God.
We're so much better than anything.
We're so much better than wires and neural link chips in our brain and like crazy kooky.
You know, I mean, are we gonna let this guy who literally just at two in the morning tweeted out nuke Mars and and two and like two days ago was like talking about drinking and having medication?
Like, this is a cry for help, you know?
It's, I mean, this is not something.
Like, you know, it's not, we're in a little bit of an existential crisis for sure, an eight sphere existential crisis.
Well, we have to remember too with Musk that he, you know, is surrounded by, he bought the term of the domain x.com.
That was his actual first major business.
So he understands the x technography very well.
Unfortunately, you know, he is joining in with that crowd saying, oh, AI is, you know, Originally, he was saying, Oh, it's such a danger.
But now he's like, Oh, I can download my consciousness into a cube.
I mean, good luck with that.
And of course, if you, these people who understand the mystery schools the way that we understand them, you know that the chakra system is set up so that it interacts with your endocrine system.
And so, physically, your consciousness resides in you physically.
You can't just put your consciousness in a box.
It's not going to happen.
So that is absolutely fascinating.
Gigi, one thing I would like to ask you about all of this, since we're on the subject, is are they planning to make the machines psychic?
I think that they are.
I think that they're, I've already had experiences where the machines are psychic.
I've had experiences myself.
And the funny thing is, I do.
Live QA's on my website and everything, and I have a lot of really psychic people on there.
And yeah, and there's been a lot of people who are super psychic that have had the same experiences of like AI kind of experiences and dreams.
And like Groovy is shaking her head, like, Yes, yes, Lord, it is happening.
But yeah, it's yes, exactly.
And so they are so far ahead that they are adding AI components to humans to almost.
Make super psychics that are able to do certain things.
Now, they can't do everything, but if you're in a lower consciousness, they can certainly dominate you in certain ways and things like that.
Not to scare anybody tonight, but they're doing some things.
The episode's getting spooky.
I know.
It's like you can't, yeah, no, don't worry.
You're always in control of your consciousness.
Listen, I mean, they're doing it on such a level that it's definitely out in the open.
It's hidden and plain sight, as you'd say.
Yeah, no question about it, but um, it is interesting because there's a Steiner quote that says, What will happen with Aramon ultimately is he's going to give everyone the clairvoyance that it would take them all this time to develop, he's going to give it to them, but each one will see it differently, so they won't be able to agree on anything.
And I have to say, that feels like what they're building towards with AI and the internet and the whole transhumanist wave.
Um, absolutely fascinating, Gigi Young.
Uh, everyone, it's X episode.
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Amazing work that you're doing with this.
And I would say to kind of cap off our discussion here tonight that it seems like what was vouchsafed for us, even as Steiner discussing this 100 year.
Prediction that from the time of World War I, if anthroposophy and the mystery schools had failed, like theosophy, that there would be that 100 year return and a window there, three or four decades to get it right.
It seems, Gigi, that even with the legacy of people like Carol and the legacy of those mystery schools moving out these ideas through the public, that we're in that period.
We are in that period, and I actually think that they did a great job in what they did.
It was a really hard task to have psychic material go through the wood chipper like that, you know.
Society Polarizes00:02:53
But I think we're gonna see in this time period, we're gonna see society break into two.
We're gonna see one portion of society become completely obsessed with the synthetic reality and move into like mega cities and things like that, and even going towards.
You know, being chipped and overly vaccinated, and basically, you know, going that way.
And then we're going to see people basically homesteading and having no 5G zones.
And we're going to see this polarization happen in society coming up.
And that's going to be this split that's going to determine kind of like how things go.
And I think the Waldorf schools will pick up, like, people will come together and kind of create their own.
Thing like with Waldorf schools or homeschooling together, the government's not going to like that.
They're going to come in and try and shut that down.
So it's actually going to happen.
And I see a split happening in this period of the next 40 years or so of two different, very different types of humanity developing.
One completely synthetic, moving into that, the other one more into homesteading and no 5G zones and all that making food.
It's almost like it's going to be, and we'll see different humans coming from these places over time.
And I think that's where.
That seeds are going to come is from that more organic way of life.
That is almost what Steiner was setting the with the biodynamic gardening.
We're going to see that in those little places, and we're going to see the Waldorf style schools coming in as it branches off.
So that's where I see it that prediction actually really taking root.
And I actually believe that it's this polarization that we're going to see in society that Steiner saw and why he did the gardening and why he did the schooling is because he knew things are going to become so, so, so synthetic that that would start to happen.
So that's why it shows those things.
Wow, it's like a renewal movement, is what you're talking about.
He's like, we're going to need that.
Renewing the land.
It is quite fascinating.
And you know, the Steiner people and the people who care about their children's future, they're not going to spend all this money and time sending them to Waldorf schools just to have them pump with 72 vaccines by the time they're 16.
I mean, so you're going to see a major clash there.
We're already seeing groups like the New York Times taking off the gloves on Steiner's Renaissance.
They know that maybe that's going to happen.
Maybe they've seen that future like I have.
But good luck because it's some good stock going in that direction.
Absolutely.
Thank You for Listening00:03:50
Gigi has spoken.
Gigi's great.
Fantastic information tonight.
Thank you so much.
And you did an amazing job dissecting this.
With me, and whenever you get around the Alice material or the rabbits esoteric stuff, I always feel like there's an extra magic there, just great work.
And we'll all be watching for your next In Plain Sight, it's a great video series you're doing.
And thank you, everyone.
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Thank you so much for hanging out with us tonight.
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You did a fantastic job.
Behind the scenes producing the show and managing the chat for us.
We will see you next Friday and we'll see you at 8 p.m.
So have a great weekend, everybody.
And I want to say that Elvis Presley died 42 years ago today.
But before he died at the young age of 42, he left us some incredible, incredible music.
And one fun fact about Elvis that very few people know is that one of his very favorite books was Isis Unveiled.
By Helena Blavatsky.
A deep king, there, so you say.
He was also, when he died, the book that he was reading.
Sorry to just interject on your outro.
When he died and he went into the bathroom with the book, he was reading a book about Jesus, his face.
He's reading actually about Jesus when he died.
It was about the face.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
Wow.
Incredible.
I am.
Well, you know, Elvis saw the impact of his death then, you know, and that we still talk about his work today because he's such a phenomenal artist.
And it's interesting to note that he had this spiritual root.
And one of the things I'm going to reveal tonight, I was going to save this for one of these shows, but I've done the research now.
And one of the major anthroposophists who was a celebrity, you're never going to guess it, but if you think about it, it makes sense.
And she got a reading from Megger Casey when she was younger, was Marilyn Monroe.
Oh.
And it was interesting.
There was a woman who put out the story, and she said, Well, you know, I went to do an interview of her for this New York magazine.
And we sat there, we talked about hours and hours about Steiner because she was such a close, fascinated person of his work.
And then the woman was amazed.
So here we have Marilyn studying Steiner and Elvis studying Blavatsky.