Dark Journalist and Olivia explore the "Hot Zone" between Bimini and Cuba, linking rising Atlantis ruins to geopolitical tensions and JFK's declassified security incidents at Hemingway's villa. They analyze the 1967 Soviet MiG interception of flat capsule UFOs, Paulina Zelitsky's cave discoveries, and Gordon Cooper's secret mapping missions. The discussion connects these anomalies to ancient Poseidon groups, magnetic anomalies, and potential sovereign land emergence, suggesting that commercialized UFO media distracts from genuine national security threats and hidden historical truths regarding extraterrestrial technology. [Automatically generated summary]
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Storming the UFO Market00:10:26
And we are live.
This is Dark Journalist.
It's fantastic to be here in such a great crowd already tonight.
Of course, I'm joined by the lovely Olivia.
Hi, everybody.
And Olivia, we've been noting all the strangeness about that recent lunar eclipse and that's taking place in the traffic because I know that you were firing down the highway to get here.
And when Olivia goes down the highway, you've got to watch out because it's kind of like watching Sammy Hagar drive because she can't drive 65.
But it has been very interesting and unusual.
I think it's added a little mystical note to the air.
Little!
People do seem a little bit out of their bodies, I'll put it to you that way.
But we are on X episode 60.
And this episode is very important because we're going to go with UFOs in the hot zone.
Now, the hot zone is something we introduced on this show, which is an area that is spread out between Bimini.
Right off the coast of Florida, Straits of Florida here, and on this side, Yucatan.
And all along the way, we have the western tip of Cuba.
This is always quite interesting to me because there's been so much in the way of psychic information, in the way of geopolitical struggles, in the way of intrigue, in the way of secret stories, whispers, and whistleblowers.
And one of the people that I talked to, who are actually, their job was to map the ocean floor.
And I had communicated with them, and they indicated to me that there was an NDA that they needed to sign, and that the area in question was called the Hot Zone.
And the reason I ascertained later that it was called the Hot Zone was because there's a series of ruins down there that are being explored by every side.
So the Americans want them, the Cubans want them, and others also, including Russia.
Now, there were some people as I got into this that I figured out were really going deep on it, like Egerton Sykes, who had.
Really been active in the 60s and 70s as a retired British intelligence officer, and who died in the 80s but left behind an incredible library of information.
And so much of that information correlates with the information that I have here about the hot zone.
So we have this idea of these hidden ruins down there.
What's that got to UFOs?
What's that got to do with UFOs?
What's love got to do with it, as Tina Turner would say?
Well, it's interesting because this area that I'm discussing, Bimini, the Bahamas, Over to Yucatan is such an active UFO zone.
And right in the middle of that, that is right between Bimini and Cuba, is Andros Island.
And Andros, being very close to the coast, also the east coast of America, is the home of ATEC, which is a very special secret navy facility that is used for testing weaponry underwater.
And this is known also as the sort of underwater Area 51.
I think that we have a few things that we can say about Autech that tie into this, but there's always a heavy UFO sighting angle when it comes to Autech.
So, with the recent unearthing of some Cuban reports, UFO reports, that are really startling and really so much more in depth than anything that we've been hearing about, the UFO field, I think, has been in this real malaise with these turkeys from the TTSA coming in and doing this horrible.
Stuff and then asking for $30 million.
It's like, look, they've got Chris Mellon.
His family has more money than anybody.
They can just get the money from him and stop taking it from UFO true believers.
But anyway, they did this lousy show and they peddled all these threat ideas and they had CIA agent Louis Elizondo perking around pretending to solve cases and, like, you know, this is a national security threat.
And so they did that bad show, which didn't get such great ratings.
And then now they want $30 million to make more bad shows.
I got a hell of a nerve.
I have to say, it's, you know, I think that the wonderful thing about them is that they are kind of outing themselves.
But that is kind of the state of the kind of commercial market heavy UFO thing.
The actual cases and so many things that are coming to light, again, from the grassroots level up, we're getting so many more answers from good researchers on this.
And that's the angle, that's where we're going to get those answers.
So that's what we're going to get into tonight the presence of UFOs in the hot zone.
Now, this is the combination of these ancient Atlantean ruins, these very strange anomalies that take place in the triangle close by, like ships disappearing.
Magnetic compasses spinning all the way back to Columbus.
So, when we're looking at this, we have to now put these threads together, which is the hot zone, the anomalies, which on this program we call Apotheum, and then also this very unusual UFO file factor and these UFO sightings.
When we put these three together, we start to understand that it's all in relation to incredible anomalies there in that area that have to do with a landmass that's rising and something that was there in very ancient times.
And how that relates to the UFO file is something quite fascinating.
But we're going to see that everyone is interested in this area.
And this is basically fundamentally the issue.
That's why you get so much tension all the way back to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And we are also looking at a new Cuban Missile Crisis in relation to this, with Putin over in Russia saying that we're going to have a similar situation and that relations have never been worse, all because we're slapping sanctions on them and Russia's providing support.
Port to Venezuela.
So it's quite a geopolitical situation.
I could sit here and talk about that end of the situation all night because it's quite fascinating.
But we're here to talk about UFOs in the hot zone.
Let's find out how the hot zone became the hot zone.
This is going to maybe get us going.
And I do want to say right up front that we're going to be taking questions in the second half of the program.
And Olivia is going to be handling all that.
So just get your questions in caps over to her.
Can we get one thing out of the way already?
Yes.
Okay.
So Dark Truth wants to know.
Could you ask DJ what his opinion is of the so called storming of Area 51?
Yeah, well, this is another one of those kind of big market heavy trips.
And of course, you know, they try to make it sound like a fun thing to do.
And we've known about Area 51 since the 90s, but it has been there since the late 40s and really built up during the Eisenhower period.
So, in terms of the technology, once it got on the map, With the things that they've developed there, they've moved a lot of those facilities.
So the idea of storming it is literally one of those plays that the media loves because they know you're not going to get any results from doing it.
And the media seems to love to play into anything alien now that the unexplained, no, it's not even called unexplained.
Unidentified?
Unidentified.
Their show is so terrible, I can't even remember the name.
Try to block it out.
Unidentified is the History Channel show with Elizondo and, you know, tubbed along looking like this.
A lot of drug rehab going on there.
But I think that we have this the nature of the situation is as soon as that ended, that series ended, it was like, oh, there's this big summer, and how are we going to keep this kind of false UFO aspect very different from actual UFO research?
How can we keep it in the news so, like, Politico and New York Times can pretend to be hip and covering the UFO thing?
And now we have this completely ridiculous Storm Area 51 meme out there.
And trust me, that's the kind of stuff that is not like.
Oh my goodness, someone started it, you know, and it just caught fire.
No, those things are really well planned.
And you have to wonder to yourself, why would they do that?
You know, what would be the point of it?
But it is quite a distraction.
It's also just really dangerous.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I do feel with the Epstein Trump situation going on that, you know, there's a lot with Epstein and Clinton in the background there and the way that they're trying to spin that narrative against Trump and all of this that's going on that.
They haven't got a handle on it yet, and they'd much rather talk about this flyaway thing of storming Area 51.
Yeah, so I don't think much of it, I guess, is the answer there.
I do think it's interesting that all these companies are jumping on like Bud Light.
Oh, yeah.
Really well designed.
Oh, right.
They have a little alien.
They're doing great.
They pretended they were putting out a Ben and Jerry's Area 51 flavor.
I do remember this, but that's not actually true.
But they are doing an anti establishment like.
I think that was not true either.
But you never know whether these memes are put forth as a trial balloon that they could then deny.
But if it caught on, they could jump on it and do it.
If only there were legitimate hippies out there.
Where are the hippies?
Ben Jerry's is just gone.
Aren't they using GMOs now?
It's not, you know.
They hate what they used to be.
It's like going to a Grateful Dead concert and having them be sponsored by.
Raytheon or something.
It's very interesting to me because I do feel like a lot of those groups have lost touch with the very things that they believe in.
So we see it a lot.
We see it a lot.
And this is a very market heavy environment that we're in.
And so I think we're going to see a lot of distractions as we go along here.
Just like they're talking about, oh, it's so terrible.
Netflix is losing subscribers.
You know, who cares?
Do you care?
I mean, I don't.
So that's not real news, but that's the kind of stuff that you see at the top of your Twitter bar.
Spirals and Pyramid Structures00:07:13
But for the things that we could look into that maybe would be kind of anathema to the establishment, the hot zone has to be right up there because they actually have NDAs for people who are in military and non military positions doing ocean mapping and other things like measuring current in the ocean, who cannot mention.
So, for example, if you're in a submarine doing this stuff and you go by and there's a pyramid down there, you can't talk about it.
This is very important, I think, because that's a real kind of blocking of knowledge.
But all those forces involved that is, Russia, Cuba, now Venezuela, and the United States are all very aware of it, and Mexico as well.
There are other reasons why the hot zone has such political gridlock around it and such secrecy, and such, you know, everyone's kind of got their guns ready.
And this has been the nature of the case for like some 50 odd years.
And part of that too is that there's all kinds of oil rich territories under the water as well.
And there's a lot of anomalies there that people haven't discovered.
So, there's a gigantic resource heavy politic, real politic going on.
And that's something we need to pay attention to as well.
However, the ruins that are rising under the water that belong to an advanced ancient civilization that we call Atlantis.
And in this particular part of the hot zone, Egerton Sykes, the Atlantis researcher extraordinaire, called Murius because he had gone through the Celtic and Druid legends related to this.
And that's what they called Bimini at that time.
When Graham Hancock was here in Cambridge, And I was talking to him.
He reminded me that the Bimini map, in fact, is shown on the Pyrrhus map, the Bimini Island, and that there are ruins on it.
It's dotted with ruins on the Pyrrhus map.
So there was awareness of Bimini and what it was and what it represented.
And it was the last point of this incredible island of Poseidonia, which was a major third commanding center for Atlantis back some 10,000 BC.
And that as time went on, Bimini was the only piece of that left.
And that's kind of the last piece that's remaining.
And it came to be known as Murias, but they knew that there was an incredible civilization there at one point.
The ruins that are off Cuba now extend and can go across.
And some of the research that was done was that there's a mountain range actually that went from the Yucatan Peninsula over to Cuba.
So this might form, give us a better picture that after Atlantis went down, somewhere in the intervening years, whatever was left there around Bimini.
Over to in the hot zone, then that also went down eventually.
Now, there's a major story on this, which is scientist Paulina Zelitsky, who was an incredible oceanographer, and she has quite a remarkable story having grown up and worked for the Soviet Union and then having defected to Canada and worked in Cuba.
Just an amazing personal history.
But the thing that she brought forward was that she.
Under the guise of working for the Cuban government to discover these Spanish galleons that were off the coast, she found the incredible ruins of a city.
Now, there was a series of caves on this western tip of Cuba, and she had gone in there.
Actually, it's an amazing picture of her in there that I want to show.
That's her looking at these spirals in these ancient caves.
Now, this is before she had discovered the ruins, and I've always found that that was.
Very unique because it gives us some idea of where she was heading with her research.
And the ruins that are in these caves give us heavy, and I mean heavy astronomical data and information about a major comet crash that took place in ancient history.
But we don't know very much about these ancient Cubans, but that's right there in that hot zone.
And Casey described that as a major piece of Poseidon there in that general vicinity.
These are more of those spirals.
We see some ex steganography also up here in relation to this.
And I do feel that this spiral comes up over and over again.
They're trying to tell us something here in the astronomical alignments.
And some people, some other researchers, have looked at that.
But the dating on them goes way back.
We're talking about, you know, cave paintings really survive for a fantastic period of time.
Yes.
A cult fan wants to know Are those glyphs symbolic of the interdimensional waves emanations from a portal into another level of consciousness slash stargate?
Yeah, that's the kind of thing, that's exactly the type of thing that those types of priests and initiates would know and would record.
You can look at some of the spirals as astrological information, astronomical information, no question.
But then you have to go deeper because at a certain point, those spirals are seen all over the world, and then we start to understand that they're describing something interdimensional, let's say.
So, yeah, I would actually be more on board with that.
So, she's quite an interesting researcher.
We've done a couple of programs on Paulina, and I have spoken to her, and she has given me some very interesting information and pointed me to some very interesting things to look at.
I do expect her to come on the program at some point this year to really blow the lid off the hot zone.
So, stay tuned for that.
Let's take a quick look at some of the things she found.
Off the western tip of Cuba, and a lot of this, it's kind of that what they call San Antonio, Cuba.
Over here, that's where it is.
And then under the water here, she's found these pyramid like structures.
Now, in her interviews, she said that she has sent some submersibles down there, and that when they got close up to those pyramids, they were seeing hieroglyphics.
So there's no question that this is an ancient civilization and they're debris down there.
I'm going to ask you to hold that up again so everybody can see these pyramid structures.
I have another bigger picture.
For once, I'm one step ahead of Olivia.
This doesn't happen very often.
Just this once.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
It's fantastic to be here.
It's episode 60, and we're so glad to have everyone with us.
We're going to be going deep into UFOs in the hot zone.
We're starting with the hot zone itself and then showing how the UFO activity is very heightened in this area.
And now we're also going to start to understand what all these major geopolitical shakeups going on with Cuba are.
Cuba, Castro, and JFK00:15:04
Why suddenly do we have all these sanctions on Cuba?
You know, when Obama left office, He had opened up relations with them for the first time and put an embassy there for the first time since Castro stormed it back there in 1959.
So, and you know, the Cuban Revolution, we had early on very interesting relations with it because they thought Cuba was going to go on our team.
But unfortunately, it was too unstable.
And the regime that he replaced, the Batista regime, was very big with the mafia because they ran casinos and everything else.
And then when JFK got in, he was sort of inherited a really bad situation.
And he made the best of it.
But the Bay of Pigs happened, which was an invasion of Cuba that was a leftover plan from the Eisenhower administration that was cooked up by Nixon and the CIA, basically.
And Nixon was Eisenhower's vice president.
So when they went to storm the island, Kennedy wouldn't give all of the support that would be necessary.
He realized that they were shoving him into World War III by attacking Cuba.
So he backed off of it.
And as a result, That revolutionary force that the CIA had trained to retake Cuba were taken prisoner.
And so it was a real, it was three months into his presidency and really shook him up and made him look like an amateur.
But in fact, he had saved the world from going into a major World War III scenario with Cuba.
That was only one of many heavy, heavy national security incidents that took place while JFK was president with Cuba.
But the forces that wanted Cuba, the CIA forces and the mafia and other groups, kept at it the whole time and they completely subverted the presidential rule.
And this is where the real split in the presidency versus the Central Intelligence Agency, which is an extra constitutional agency not envisioned by the founding fathers, but something that was kind of ginned up and created as part of a national security state.
And now we have CIA everywhere, including entertainment programming and shows like Unidentified.
So, they're just out in the open now.
They're like, hey, we're the CIA, we're running things.
Sorry, the CIA is not envisioned in the Constitution.
So, certainly, you're going to have spy groups working for military purposes, but we have the Defense Intelligence Agency, we have military intelligence.
And one of the things that Kennedy was trying to do was put back the intelligence to the Pentagon and get rid of these people, this thing that was just going and subverting elections and doing all this other stuff.
And we all know how that turned out because They decided, well, this guy is too much of a loose cannon.
We know how to take care of loose cannons.
So, unfortunately, that's been the nature of the struggle.
But if we look, there were a lot of things in relation to Cuba and Castro that are quite fascinating when we get into the hot zone politics.
Because one of the things that we've spotlighted in about six episodes was Ernest Hemingway, his relationship with this Atlantis rising aspect, and the knowledge that this was going to happen at a certain point.
And he set up shop there in Bimini, which is right where Casey said, hey, this is where the Poseidon temples are going to rise.
Now, as a result of some deep research, I found out that Casey had, in fact, given readings on Hemingway for Hemingway's mother.
And that Casey, who had first mentioned Bimini and the Poseidon temple ruins that are rising off the coast of Bimini, he had actually given those readings initially in 1926 to a group of businessmen.
And even through the 1940s, he was also talking about Bimini.
By the time Hemingway set up shop there in the mid 30s, that's plenty of time, almost 10 years of ability to look at the Casey readings.
And especially where his mother was on the spiritualist side, knew about theosophy, spent time with Casey, and Casey's son had gone and spent a month with the Hemingways in Chicago.
That's a pretty tight kind of relationship.
Think about the kind of friend that you spend a month with.
That's pretty good.
It's kind of like a tight family culture there.
So, I think when we start to look at this, we get a better picture of it.
But I wanted to put forward the idea that Hemingway is quite unique and important to this story because whatever it was he was doing, shuffling between Bimini and Cuba and setting up shop there, showed up as a national security document in the Kennedy administration that only came out in 2014.
And then they still didn't know what to make of it because it was all about a national security incident that was to take place at Hemingway's villa.
Now, if you go back and search through those records, you'll find a lot of the Kennedy historians saying, We have no idea what national security incident they're talking about.
But in the room, and this is a record, a document that I've shown on this program, so it's not debated.
But in the room were Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, President John F. Kennedy, the Director of Central Intelligence, and also Ed Lansdale, who was the liaison officer between the Air Force and the CIA, who was known as Mr. CIA kind of covert op man.
And, you know, this guy shows up in Indonesia and they overthrow the Indonesian president.
He's that kind of a guy.
But they're all talking about Hemingway's villa and what needs to take place there and how risky it is and all the rest of it.
Later on, this story is actually retold by the Smithsonian.
And just to kind of keep everyone on the same page with this, the Smithsonian reported that, and this gets very interesting, but that Mary Hemingway and JFK got Ernest Hemingway's legacy.
Out of Cuba.
And that's the headline there.
You can see it.
It says, How Mary Hemingway and JFK got Ernest Hemingway's legacy out of Cuba.
This is a very fascinating article, and it opens up a whole territory of information and understanding.
What happened was that Hemingway had a vault in his villa in Cuba.
And from what can be ascertained, most likely it was not poems and early books that he had in that vault, but video footage, reels of film footage of.
What people had seen him doing over and over again, which was going back and forth between Cuba and Bimini, just looking down in the water.
By the time the communist revolution takes over with Cuba, and Castro is the lead, actually, Castro and Hemingway have a good relationship at first, and then Castro gets in tight with the communists and it gets tough, and then Hemingway has to leave.
Hemingway felt that he was being pursued and harassed by the CIA at the time.
And he had, in fact, set up his own intelligence unit.
It gives you some idea of the guts of the man.
But this type of activity continues even to this day.
And that's what I really want to get into in the story of someone named John McAfee.
And McAfee is someone who was showing up right in the hot zone and hauling his big yacht right into the Marina Hemingway there in Cuba.
It's quite fascinating to see this theme playing itself out again.
And of course, Hemingway, his mother being so close to the Casey's, the Casey's giving the readings about this Atlantis rising off the East Coast, that this started to open up a whole thing in the family.
And when I went back and was looking, I found that Ernest Hemingway's brother Les had actually founded, had bought a lot in the Atlantic Ocean and called it New Atlantis and had set up a whole charter for it and made himself the president of the company.
And they founded it July 4th, 1964.
Now, That's very interesting on a number of levels.
And we're going to get into why, because one of the most fascinating aspects of this is that Les would go on to really try to bring up this whole idea about Atlantis rising.
And what will happen is that his daughter will release a book about her experiences with him.
And she'll talk about how he thought the greatest thing in the world was when this new land rises, it'll be sovereign.
So if we claim it or if we know where it is, Then we'll be able to start an entirely new culture, a kind of a utopia.
So he's got the new Atlantis vibe going on.
But this is all on the record.
This is not anybody guessing.
So it's a mystery.
And we're starting to wonder where are all these people getting this information about Atlantis rising?
And that's when we go into the Casey readings.
Now, Edgar Casey, of course, we've done many shows on him and his work predicting that Atlantis in the hot zone would rise.
And I invite you to look at those shows.
And I would actually say that this show.
Is really descended from X episode 47, which is the Hot Zone NASA mystery.
And also the entire series of shows, X shows on Ernest Hemingway, which is a playlist on my YouTube channel.
Edgar Cayce, of course, doesn't need much of an introduction.
Having done the intense psychic trance work that he did, he was able to go back in time and look at what was retro cognitive information.
And in doing that, he found that there was an entire advanced culture.
That existed with advanced technology beyond anything that we have even today.
But he was talking about this stuff in the 1920s.
So it's quite remarkable.
Let's get just a little snapshot of what he said about Bimini and Atlantis so we can kind of get oriented.
And then we're also going to move on into these very unusual UFO sightings in the hot zone.
So can I ask a couple?
Absolutely.
All right.
So R. Andrew says Is Bermuda also part of the hot zone on the other end?
And Richard Humphrey wanted to know is the hot zone the most active place in the Bermuda Triangle?
Is the hot zone part of the Bermuda Triangle?
It overlaps.
It's right on the edge there.
And I think the best way to think about it, the cleanest way to think about it, is that the Bimini itself, the Straits of Florida, there would be one threshold.
And the other threshold on the other side would be the Yucatan Peninsula.
And that encapsulates in the middle, the western tip of Cuba, which is where these ruins were found.
Now, I have found that the hot zone extends as far as Belize and into the Caribbean through the Gulf Stream.
So, a good approximation is really between Bimini and Yucatan with Cuba right in the middle of that route.
But certainly, that part of Bimini going with the Straits of Florida overlaps right there into the Bahamas.
And that's the Bahamas, and that's the other corner of the Bermuda Triangle.
There are, of course, some very important things about the Bermuda Triangle we're going to bring forward tonight, including who got us looking at it and how they were associated with the X steganography, which, of course, this program is all about, which is following where that X steganography leads us.
Yes.
One more question?
Oh, yeah.
Okay, Kids Future wants to catch the chase.
Are there a lot of UFO sightings in the Bimini area?
Yes.
Oddly enough, in Cuba, in Bimini, in Eleuthera, in the Barry Islands.
It's just, it's quite remarkable.
That as I've gone into it, the sightings down there are off the charts.
And they've been going on, you know, talk about ancient aliens.
Well, there's a whole report about Columbus.
And, you know, Columbus is coming in and they're seeing these things and they're calling them flying candelabras.
So they're seeing these kind of, you know, what look like candles to them and lights in the sky and all the rest of it.
And they're trying to figure out, you know, what is the nature of this thing?
When they see it off in the distance, they think, oh, those are lights and we're going to land somewhere.
But then they get there and they're just lights.
So that's when they are heading into the Bahamas.
So it's quite remarkable that that type of UFO activity was taking place there.
However, what's quite unique is when you combine Bermuda Triangle type activity, that is magnetic compasses spinning, time slips, time missing, all these apotheum style effects that take place, the reality distortion effects, if you combine those with UFOs, it's like, whoa.
And there's lots and lots of stories from down there.
I do have a couple for us tonight, but as I've gone through them, you could do a whole book just on that because it's quite remarkable the extent of the activity down there, not to mention off the coast of Florida.
I mean, it's quite remarkable.
And I was looking actually at some stories of an entire school that had witnessed a sighting outside of Miami.
So this is all going to come up tonight.
Back to Casey's reading on Atlantis and Bimini.
1923, this is giving a life reading where he's talking about the previous incarnation of the person who is coming in for a reading.
And this is something that Casey could do.
He could, you know, by lying down in a certain position, he could give you information about your physical body and he could actually diagnose you at a distance.
So if he's in Virginia Beach and you're in San Diego, no problem.
You send him a postcard and you say, you know, I want to be here.
Can I do the appointment?
They come back and they say, if you're in your room there at three o'clock, we'll read you, give us the address, and all the rest of it.
So he had incredible success helping people with this.
And really, I think that Casey is one of these figures who stands as a real giant.
You see the marketing engines try to kind of ride off Casey's coattails, as it were, and people running around saying, I'm the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.
Well, don't buy it for a minute because his work was quite unique and we just have not seen very much like him.
But when he got into life readings, wow, all kinds of vistas opened up because he gave us this picture of our past.
Which again, the mystery schools are releasing that information through this individual, just as they had through Blavatsky and Steiner previously.
Okay, here's the reading.
Destructive Forces from Two Eyes Stone00:05:37
Before this, he said the entity was in the fair country of Alta or Poseidonia proper.
Then this entity was in that force that brought the highest civilization and knowledge that has been known to the earth's plane.
This we find was nearly 10,000 years BC.
So, Casey here in 23 is saying the highest civilization and knowledge that has been known on the Earth's plane.
He's not just talking about the high technology of the Atlanteans, but the real spiritual development and that taking on of the universal forces and what the Atlanteans were really capable of.
Quite remarkable.
So, then speaking specifically about Bimini in relation to this, he's the one who drew attention to the fact that Bimini was where Poseidon was.
It was the last piece that was really standing.
In that off the coast of Bimini, the temple of Poseidon was rising and it would in fact rise and basically rewrite history.
So, this is a really big problem if you are part of the ruling establishment and you have a narrative to maintain and you have these islands rising with ruins on them.
It's going to be a kind of a significant problem.
So, he's talking again and he's talking to an engineer and he discusses something called the Two Eye Stone, which we've discussed on this program many times.
But the Two Eye Stone were these incredible.
Fire stones, fire crystals that the Atlanteans used to power their cities.
And they had all kinds of advanced things like flight and the ability even to disintegrate matter, because in some of the readings, he has them going through mountains and things like that.
How do you do that?
We can't even do that now.
Okay, but he says that the misuse of those same stones that could do all these incredible things, including have them interacting with these spiritual individuals in the outer spheres, if you want to get into that cosmology, he really was saying that the crystals were the answer in their spiritual life and supplied their technological needs.
But some groups started to get into just the technological part.
And so the Belial groups take over from these Amelius groups.
The Amelius groups are more spiritually minded, the Belial groups.
Really want to, you know, they really want the tools to be aggressive to other tribes and other groups.
So, what happens is, what he says is that, and this is a quote directly from the readings now These forces from the Two Eyes Stone, not intentionally, were tuned too high and brought the second period of destructive forces to the peoples in the land.
It broke up the land into aisles that later became the periods when the further destructive forces were brought to the land.
That's the period that we get to, 10,000 BC.
Through the same form of fire, the bodies of individuals were regenerated by the burning through the application of the rays from the stone.
Now, he's saying the stone has such a power, the two eye stone.
It has the ability, if somebody went in there and was 100 years old, they could get rejuvenated back to when they were 25.
So it has quite a remarkable rejuvenating, restorative effect going on.
Then he says, in that period, the body rejuvenated itself often and remained in the land until the eventual destruction.
At the end, it joined with the peoples that made for the breaking up of the land and joined with Belial.
Okay, Belial is that group.
The same forces, remember, on the Steiner side and in anthroposophy, call that Arama.
That's what we've been discussing so often on this program.
So he's describing that the engineer who was working on this was not the intention nor desire for destructive forces in working with the Two Eye Stone.
He says later it was for the ascension of power itself.
And then they ask him to describe it.
And he says, The manner of construction of the stone, we find it was a large cylindrical glass cut with facets in such a manner that the capstone on top of the same made for the centralizing of the power of the force that concentrated between the end of the cylinder and the capstone itself.
This is really, if you think about it, an incredible power station.
So he says that the records of the manners of the construction of the two eye stone are in three places in the earth as it stands today.
In the sunken portions of Atlantis or Poseidonia, where a portion of the temples may yet be discovered under the slime of ages of seawater near what is now known as Bimini off the coast of Florida.
This is him saying that that temple that has that information is rising.
Later, he would say, expect the first parts of it in 1968 and 69.
So what happens is that in 68 and 69, there is a diver who.
J. Manson Valentine, who flies over Bimini and he sees underneath all of this road stuff.
And now I've talked to people who've actually done dives on the Bimini Road, which is also called the Bimini Wall because it has that incredible kind of ring of stones around the island.
And there's no question when you look at it, it's just a very large stone structure that's man made.
Diplomatic Health Attacks in Cuba00:11:58
So the question, the problem for history is how do you account for it?
And this is the nature, this is where we've been at with this question.
Now, before we go any further, I think it gives us some idea of why Bimini is so important.
Now, recently, since we reestablished relations with Cuba, and before things went so south with the Cubans and the Americans through the Trump administration, a very strange thing started to happen to the diplomats that we were sending into Cuba, which is they were coming back with concussions, their ears were very damaged.
And a lot of them had physical injuries from these strange weapons that were being used on them, including just getting sick and all the rest of it.
And nobody could describe what had happened or why this was happening to so many people.
But they had to send them back to America because over and over, and the stories were getting out, there was just no way to stop this.
So we've been watching this strange wave of it, but that has now taken on a totally new character because the diplomats who were in Cuba as recently as last year.
When they came back, when it was too much, when these concussions or these illnesses were too much for them, the victims.
Now, there's some stories coming out that are new where it says victims of Cuba and China health attacks say they're being harassed in the U.S. Let's think about this for a minute.
In the United States, after they come back, they're still facing the harassment.
What is it that has chased them out and can still chase them here?
So we have to think about this Atlantis rising thing and the people who have this kind of knowledge or who could obtain it by being, let's say, diplomats to.
Cuba are in a very precarious situation as far as the hot zone is concerned.
I'm going to read just a little bit from this article, which was on all places, it was in the Daily Beast, which, you know, definitely is a left leaning publication.
Okay, quote, victims of the mysterious health attacks on U.S. diplomatic staff in Cuba have spoken out for the first time, and some say they've been harassed and had their homes broken into since returning to America.
More than 25 diplomatic staffers have complained about the attacks that allegedly used high pitched sounds and waves that caused headaches and nausea.
Victims complain of intense pressure inside their heads, and doctors say some of them have been left with permanent brain damage.
Let's think about that.
And really, you know, we're talking literally about diplomats just going down to Cuba for the first time.
What could be the reason for that?
Back in the U.S., after being withdrawn from their diplomatic posts, At least six of the evacuated Americans have reported suspected harassment or surveillance inside the U.S. to the FBI.
According to NBC News, some have found items moved or tampered with in their homes, lights and TVs turned on that had been left off, and some report having been followed by strangers.
Cuba denies any role in the health attacks, and the U.S. has yet to name a culprit.
It's a very interesting string of stories that's coming out on that.
So, I want to really point out this idea that the geopolitical situation, because of the hot zone, because of the ruins rising, this isn't a battle over Cuba's sugar.
I mean, it's much deeper level.
There are all kinds of ways to sabotage crops or force a country to economic rank.
But the kind of military tactics and covert weapons and things like that mean you're dealing with a very heavy, heavy level.
Of involvement by agencies with a really major target in mind.
Now, it seems to me that if we go back and we look at Zelitsky's story of discovering in 2001 this Atlantis, these ruins, which you could say relate more to the Mayan culture than anything else, because she said that the hieroglyphs looked Mayan, oddly enough.
So let's start to get a little more of the geopolitical intrigue around the hot cell and then bring in.
The UFO aspect.
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Yes.
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It's going to be a long night, Liberty Thunder.
Can I ask you a question?
And remember, this is like, you know, some serious hardcore water.
Yes.
Kantiki man wanted to know were there any relevant files in the UK's released UFO files, Bahamas being Commonwealth?
Yeah.
Yeah, there were sightings in there.
I think that there's a couple of sources I'm going to name tonight.
I'm going to name what I think is the most important case, but there was one case that I was reading.
That they were observing from the Bahamas, where this thing going by looked like a bus flying.
No wheels, but it looked kind of like a bus because the windows going by and it was sort of that shape.
I have also noticed that it seems to me, maybe a UFO researcher might dig this out a little bit differently, but an awful lot of cigar shaped ships down there, different from the capsule saucer thing.
Although the major case I'm going to talk about is a saucer.
Yes.
I love this question.
Richard Hastings, why would Americans target their own diplomats?
Well, though, I understand the question.
The problem is that there's an aspect, an arm that operates within the government of America and outside of it that has nothing, that has no loyalties to it.
Yeah, ever hear of something called 9 11?
Yeah, well, 9 11 would do it.
I mean, there's a number, certainly the Kennedy assassination, all these deep events, as Professor Scott has pointed them out.
You know, certainly Iran Contra has aspects of this.
And we've seen it over and over again where there's a group that is active inside the deep state and they have to come over into the public state.
But those two things operate kind of parallel.
When the deep state comes out, it's usually through what Professor Scott calls a deep event.
And a deep event gives them the ability to change a policy.
But that group doesn't have any kind of loyalty.
That you might expect from other Americans working in the government.
But they have their hands and their power centers inside of those political situations.
So we've seen it happen over and over again.
What I do think is disturbing is that people in those posts in Cuba had a very important mission to reestablish relations.
Instead, we have the worst relations with Cuba since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And that's always very dangerous, and there's no reason for it.
The point was, we had just reestablished relations with them.
So, you know, with Castro passing away, you'd think there'd be an opportunity there for new leadership.
Okay, now let's go.
On that note, Footloose wanted me to ask Do we think it might be 5G technology causing the symptoms to the diplomats, considering it is military weaponry?
Well, this is interesting for a few reasons.
Really, the way I look at it is they have those types of nano weapons and microwave weapons.
Certainly, 5G is something that's in their bag of tricks.
But when they concentrate those types of weapons and that type of electronic harassment, then it doesn't matter.
I mean, there is no good defense.
That's the problem if you don't know what tool is being used on you.
So these people going down in that situation have no idea that they're going to be hit with this.
The question is why?
Why would you want to scare these diplomats out?
I want us to look at it through the lens that the hot zone and the ruins there represent the possibility.
Of a major narrative change for history, one, but also represent, as Casey is pointing out in the Poseidon Temple, the aspect of understanding what the Two Eyes Stone was about.
And that is a kind of technology that is very superior from ancient times.
It would give them, you know, and this has been going on for over 50 years that we've known these ruins are out there.
So it would give them a real strong motivation to control that area and a lot of this volleyball that we see going back and forth.
If you get land rising, it also represents, as Wes Hemingway pointed out, sovereign land.
So, who owns that when it comes up?
There's a lot of very important questions there.
People in the know, in the structure, celebrities, politicians, people in that billionaire class, the Davos crowd, they're definitely in the know that there's land rising off the East Coast of America.
And if they go any even into it at all on a mystery school level, they're going to find that it's all related to Atlantis.
So, I've pointed out on this program before that even people like John Lennon had bought lots in the Atlantic Ocean expecting these ruins to rise.
And I'm going to point out in an excerpt from Mary Hemingway's book, who was Les's daughter, and some of the incredible things that she put across, where she's talking about how Les discussed this very idea that when the landmass comes up, it'll be sovereign.
So it's on the record.
It's definitely on the record.
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Esoteric369Wall wanted to know Does Yoga Ono still have one of those laws today?
What happened to that law?
You know, Yoko could tell us.
My guess is being the kind of astute businesswoman that she is, it's probably not something she's going to make public, but certainly it would be interesting to find out.
Yes.
Grandma Tippy Toes wanted to know how expensive are those lots in the ocean?
Is it cheap enough that we can band together and get one?
Oh, that's a great idea.
Revolutionary UFO Manifesto Secrets00:04:29
You know, I actually looked into the process about how to get one, and it was very interesting because there were ways and means about how to do it, and it depended on exactly what part of the Atlantic Ocean that you were in.
What Les Hemingway did was he took a part that was a piece of the ocean that was near Jamaica, and It's kind of fascinating to me because in the 50s he flew over Cuba and had seen these ruins.
But I think it may have been difficult because of the Cold War tensions to get anything near Cuba.
So he took this piece of the ocean over by Jamaica and set up a huge barge and called it New Atlantis.
And there's quite a history with it.
Now he was living in Bimini at the time.
And so before he died, his brother, of course, was living.
In Bimini and Cuba.
So they were both right there in the middle of it.
And we're going to find out through the incredible tensions, as I've documented in the Hemingway shows, that the family had to go through, including Mariel and Margot.
And Margot, of course, had committed suicide.
And their parents, you know, their dad, Jack, was really a high level CIA agent.
So there was all this pressure on that family.
And I think we see the fissures and the breaking lines that go on.
When you're under that kind of pressure, these types of things happen.
Depression, and yes.
And a pedophile.
Yes, Jack.
Yeah.
Jack, well, it came out through Mariel that Jack had sexually assaulted the other two sisters, but not her.
It's quite fascinating.
Because she slept with her mother.
Her mother, who had.
Well, her mother, yeah.
But her mother also, it's a tough situation.
And it's very interesting.
I think Mariel's a very, very.
Interesting person to have opened up about all this.
It's quite significant that she did.
But I think what she was saying was that her mother, who had cancer, they had this kind of relationship where she was a slave to the mother in her very early youth, like five, six, seven years old, just really at her mother's beck and call.
But as a result of that, she was always under that kind of watchful eye of the mother.
And so the things that happened with her other sisters, like Muffet and Margot, Didn't happen to her, but Jack was certainly, he seems like he had a sick side to him, interestingly enough.
Although the family didn't, they didn't disown him, interestingly enough.
They kind of put up with the fact that he had this abusive past, and apparently there was a certain window of time.
But I will say that it turns out that Ernest Hemingway was actually afraid of him as well, which I found very interesting because Ernest, he had joined with the CIA after coming back.
From World War II, that is his son Jack.
And when he came back, he had sort of transformed, and Ernest was really concerned that he was basically going to blow the whistle on him and what he was doing.
Interesting.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I do feel when we look, when we get into the Hemingways, we're getting very close to a family that had to grapple with having the knowledge of the hot zone and being intimidated by intelligence and covert intelligence wings of the government.
So, we're going to get deep.
We're going to include those.
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I have so many hours of material here.
Yeah, it's almost two chosen ones.
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Okay, I am going to jump real quickly to the Hemingways and then we're going to get into.
Well, let's look at this real quick.
Now, this is very interesting getting into the root history of the Cuban Revolution because.
We have this article here, which got some very heavy press in 2016, which was Did Fidel Castro spot a UFO?
John McAfee and Libertarian Zones00:10:10
Cuban rebel saw a round and enormous object among the stars.
Castro said he and his commanders witnessed a UFO during the Cuban Revolution.
And this guy put out a book who had worked deeply with Castro.
But the way that Castro described it, too, it was like the moon coming down and shining on them and washing over them.
And oddly enough, in the actual Cuban Revolution Manifesto, someone in his group, who was a very heavy duty revolutionary, included the idea that if we are being visited by these other intelligences, that he was seeking their help to keep the island independent.
So they actually put that in their creed for the manifesto, which I found quite remarkable.
I love it when I see a map and I have absolutely no idea why I broke it.
So now we're talking.
So, more intrigue in the hot zone.
John McAfee.
Now, when I was editing an Apple magazine, McAfee antivirus was all the rage.
And I met a lot of people from that company, interestingly enough, through Macworld and CES and things like that.
Years later, McAfee would show up doing these kind of really brazen libertarian things, saying, like, you know, we need to throw off the government and they have the currency under control and all these things.
So he got himself into some very interesting situations.
But I have to say that I like the Maverick style that he had kind of really said, look, your smartphones are spying on you and don't trust them.
And you're not reading the terms that you're accepting when it says accept all terms and conditions.
And one of them is that the phone could spy on you through these little apps.
That we have so many on the iPhone, et cetera.
But I have to say, I liked his brashness and I liked some of the things that he had to say.
But he got himself to a point where he was really kind of becoming quite a target for the United States government on a number of levels.
Interestingly, he turned up in Cuba, which is where he's residing now, and he's running for president in 2020.
As a libertarian?
That's a good question.
He did run as a libertarian in 2016, but Gary Johnson got it and then really flubbed it, unfortunately.
But McAfee's.
I could have told you that.
Johnson wasn't exactly, he wasn't all there.
A little lack of charisma there.
Just a little bit.
This guy had been the governor of New Mexico.
Somehow it just wasn't working.
But in any case, McAfee, I think, is a very important.
I don't expect him to get the presidency, but I think his candidacy could be very important.
And he's somebody that we're definitely going to keep an eye on on this show.
Now, as soon as he gets to Cuba, what does he do?
He shows up.
At Ernest Hemingway's villa, which is where the national security incident happened some 56 odd years ago, that Kennedy had drawn all these people in about, which still nobody knows exactly what it was, except for the fact that the Kennedy Library now has the major stash of Hemingway papers and all the rest of it.
But Mary Hemingway got this vault out of the villa somehow with Kennedy's help, and it was smuggled back to America in a shrimp boat.
And then they said that Jacqueline Kennedy took it because President Kennedy was then assassinated.
And Jacqueline Kennedy took the vault, and when she opened up the JFK Library, all the material was there.
And of course, I've been to the JFK Library and looked at that exhibit that they were doing, and it's quite extensive.
But I went and found stories about Mary Hemingway that she had actually placed other content from the vault in a bank vault in New York City, and that some of her aides had talked about this.
So there's a lot of unusual details around the villa and the thing that happened there.
McAfee, he docks his yacht, which is called the Great Mystery, at the Marina Hemingway.
And there is a shot of him on July 4th, just sort of walking along.
He joined this national kind of social society, this international Hemingway society, when he got to Cuba, and he showed off his ID for that right here on his Twitter account.
And I have to say, the guy's very transparent and really.
You know, likes putting these things out there.
The question is, why is he in the hot zone talking about a revolution?
And he's got all these ideas about cryptocurrencies and everything else running for president.
And here he is with this Marina Hemingway and being really, you know, let's face it, right at the center of the Hemingway mystery and right in the middle of the hot zone talking big politics and all the rest of it.
Well, if we go through the history of McAfee, it's quite remarkable because, of course, as everyone knows, he was a remarkable software engineer and the antivirus that he developed was really quite remarkable.
One of the things I found interesting was that he had worked, and I wanted to get the actual name of the company, he had worked in Belize for a company called Quorum X, which was all about producing antibiotics.
But his work around space and NASA, I found particularly interesting.
Because it seems like there's an overlap, which is why we have Gordon Cooper in this episode with NASA and understanding what the hot zone is all about, and then brings in the UFO aspect as well.
So we need to kind of get into that a little bit.
I do feel that it's quite important to look at his history and to see what he's trying to do, of course, with his presidential campaign, but why Cuba and see if we can get him to open up about some of those things in relation to the hot zone.
I do feel that there's somebody.
You know, there's a lot of very unusual things going on with him.
What he did was he set up a body double because he said he was under harassment by the CIA.
And he said that the body double was kidnapped, woke up 10 days later in a hospital with no memory of what had happened because they thought they had the real McAfee.
So these are either very colorful stories or McAfee is somebody.
10 days later?
10 days, yeah.
What the hell happened to him?
It's a good question.
It's right in his Twitter feed.
It's still there.
God, he's lucky to be alive.
He is, yeah.
Well, that's scary.
I wonder if he could go through hypnosis and find out what they did to him.
Yes.
Well, it's interesting because Belize, Honduras, he's been involved in a lot of law enforcement actions that have taken place there where he's been busted for this or for that.
And nothing seems to stick, interestingly enough.
But he's gone down there and he was deported from Guatemala in December of 2012.
Can I just say nobody is down there in this country doing anything good?
Yeah, it's true.
Either you're drug running, you're gun running.
You're up to something.
You might be harvesting coffee.
That's possible.
There's always something else.
There's a lot of free market opportunities.
I don't think there's any question of that.
There's another note of the legal issue I just want to mention here, which is McAfee's property in Orange Walk Town, Belize, was raided by the gang suppression unit of the Belize Police Department.
It sounds like harassment to me.
And they don't want him around the hot zone because he's a guy with a lot of money, $100 million at a certain point.
I know that he got roughed up during the stock market crash.
But this is a guy with a lot of money, a lot of know how, and a lot of background with NASA and space.
So he knows a lot of what's happening here.
And he knows software.
So he's a technological guy, he's a political libertarian.
He's kind of a loose cannon.
He's not the guy that you want out there if you're the controlling.
Groups.
If you're the controlling establishment, you want a guy like that, pretty much.
Shut up.
Now, it says that at the time McAfee was in bed with his girlfriend when this gang suppression unit of the Belize police raided him.
And McAfee was traumatized by the incident.
A press release statement stated that McAfee was arrested for unlicensed drug manufacturing and possession of an unlicensed weapon.
He was released without charge in 2012, Belize.
Police spokesman Rafael Martinez confirmed that McAfee was neither convicted nor charged, only suspected.
That's how you harass somebody, because you grab them, you shake them up, you keep them in a cell, you interrogate them, and then you're like, oh, there's no charge.
So I do feel very much we've seen this pattern.
It happened with Paulina Zelitsky, actually, who had found the Cuban city, the Atlantic, the Atlantic city off the coast of Cuba.
So she was put in a Mexican prison.
And she was threatened by these companies who were worried that they were outing, she was outing their research there.
So, quite remarkable overlaps.
I think we're going to get into McAfee a lot more as we get into the Hot Zone investigation.
Yes.
Mr. Pritchard says there's a crazy documentary about McAfee on Netflix, crazy stories about him keeping sex slaves and things.
Seemed like a lot of it was conjecture, honestly.
Did you check that out at all?
No, I have seen a number of things about McAfee, and I do feel like they're painting.
Continuity Government Treasures00:15:05
Quite a heavy duty picture.
Now, he's easy to paint those pictures with because he's kind of an outrageous guy.
But a lot of libertarians are, let's face it.
And it's that free thinking aspect.
Okay, so we've seen him in the hot zone.
How about this guy in the hot zone, Gordon Cooper?
Now, we are on.
Can I just say, Gordon Cooper has the best smile ever.
It doesn't get better than Gordon Cooper's smile.
No wonder he kept the other astronauts upbeat when he was up there.
And it is interesting too because this is the 50th anniversary of the moon landing tomorrow.
If you believe in that thing, July 20th.
And we've done a number of programs with Dr. Joseph Farrell a couple of months ago on the moon.
And a lot of the conclusions that we came to were certainly that we went to the moon, but that the things that we found there and the story of how we got there, et cetera, and the technology that was used has always been completely suppressed, and that there's a massive security, secrecy wing that is keeping the real story of what's going on in relation to that.
And I saw USA Today.
Just to set up the show so beautifully and to know that we're on the right track.
USA Today, their headline: it says, NASA says we're going back after 50 years.
For the first time since 1972, NASA says we're going back to the moon.
Why would you wait 50 years?
The whole idea behind NASA going to the moon was to find out about space and all these different things, and then nothing for 50 years.
1972 is the last time we were up there.
What does that tell you?
Well, certainly, as we've done on this program, the Secret Space Program has been developed.
And the privatization of space has been set up.
And then through the work of Professor Peter Dale Scott, we found out about continuity of government and the level of secrecy that you can keep with continuity of government rules.
Well, if they applied those rules to space, which is how I think they got the secret space program, you'll never find out what they were up to because those rules were meant to have the American government continue in the case of a nuclear strike.
So they're incredibly secret documents.
So it's a very secret level of the government operation.
And one of the wonderful things.
That Professor Scott has given us is a great legacy.
And he's, you know, Professor Scott is almost 90 years old.
He's more active than anybody, even now.
But one of the great things in his book, especially American Deep State, some of his other great books, Deep Politics, he talks about continuity of government as the central part of the government that the public just doesn't understand that is utilized by these different groups and that they exploit that secrecy factor that's built into continuity of government.
And that network that they use, which is the most secret network, and you can't trace those communications, et cetera, because it's set up to survive a nuclear attack, they call the network the Doomsday Network.
So those people operate using that Doomsday Network, and you're never going to be able to go through NSA to subpoena that knowledge because that emergency network is set up for that high of a situation.
Okay, so back to Gordon Cooper.
Quite remarkable Mercury Gemini astronauts.
And he became somebody who was a real setup person for the Apollo missions.
And he had a great relationship with the Kennedys, interestingly enough.
Now, one of the things that happened was that after he died, a lot of rumors swirled because he was such a big fan of so many different types of companies.
And he'd set up companies looking for alternative energy, and he'd set up companies looking to develop what he called these UFO engines.
So, this is somebody who understood it, and he also wrote to the UN saying that we need to get a handle on this whole UFO thing because I've seen them, the other astronauts have seen them.
Let's just get real about it.
And he was working with the president of Grenada at the time in writing this in 1978.
And of course, that president got thrown out, and then we raided Grenada.
So, it's very odd when you start to get into it.
But let's think a little bit about what happens.
With Cooper.
I'm going to get that.
And I do feel that Cooper's story is really kind of the big key to all this.
While I'm getting it, Miss Olivia, what do you got?
I wanted to ask this a few minutes ago.
So, shamaness Anam Kara, were the Hemingways an Illuminati family?
Well, I think they were a very special bloodline.
I don't know what you mean exactly by Illuminati, but I guess the traditional people that get pegged as Illuminati families are like the Rothschilds and that whole gamut.
I think there's another branch, and I include the Kennedys in it, and I include the Hemingways.
It's interesting because in working with Gigi Young, we've been able to look at a lot of those different groups who are more on the light side.
And so that's some very interesting information.
And we've touched on it here and there.
But maybe, Gigi, hey, Gigi, you're out there.
Maybe we will do a show coming up just on those bloodlines on the good side because we all know we've got the bad side going on.
Who's on the good side?
Keep going.
Do you want another question?
Yeah, sure.
Do you know what parallel?
The hot zone is on?
Well, it actually, there's a lot of technical information related to the hot zone.
And what I found that was so helpful was in Zelitsky's investigation, if you go and you pursue the things that she was looking into, you get a real handle on all those different kind of technical compass aspects that would really, if you're really looking for that level of information, she, as the oceanography expert, has it very well detailed.
And so if you go into the initial reports, From the New York Times, from the Washington Post, who actually carried this story when she came out with it.
If you find Paulina Zelitsky's work, you'll get a lot of information about exactly where those coordinates are.
So she's the source that I would start with in relation to that.
So what happened is there's a program, and it's all about Gordon Cooper's treasures, actually.
And Olivia, I have some of it here, but there's some actually on that desk.
And Cooper's Treasures is the facing page if you have it.
Thanks so much.
You'll be a lifesaver.
And it is interesting because what was happening.
Actually, I think I have the copy here, so don't worry about it.
It's good.
So this is from the Tampa Bay Times, and it literally says Alien spaceship may lay off Florida coast, says Discovery Channel Treasure Hunter.
It's quite a headline.
First of all, now in episode 47, I touched on this, but we didn't go deep the way we're going to go deep on it tonight.
But I do feel that episode 47 sets it up.
So the show is Cooper's Treasures, and it's all about this treasure hunter who finds sunken wrecks.
And he had this relationship with his father, and he kind of inherited this friendship through his father.
And actually, his father and Cooper met on the Merv Griffin show.
Another classic Merv Griffin show right up there with the Ramp episode.
But interestingly enough, there is no better TV.
What happened was, after Cooper died, it was well known that Cooper had these kind of secret logs about some of the flights that he had done in space, looking down.
And he, during the Kennedy administration, had been given these special orders to go up there and look down at the hot zone.
Now, a lot of people said he is looking for nuclear activity underwater, but I think that's just the cover story.
I literally think that they were looking for these ruins underwater.
And as a result of that, a lot of rumors spread out about what Cooper was doing.
Now, I'm not so much saying that, you know, the treasure hunter in Cooper's Treasures, you know, I don't know him or what he's doing in relation to.
Cooper's material.
I'm not saying that everything that he says about Cooper is true, but I do find aspects of it very fascinating.
And I think that we can, there's a lot, a lot to get into on this.
Let's take a quick look at this.
Now, the Discovery Channel, its latest series is Cooper's Treasure.
There is indeed a treasure map in possession of a veteran treasure hunter.
What makes this map unique, according to the program promos, is that it came from outer space.
Supposedly, Mercury astronaut Gordon Cooper made the map based on observations.
During his MA 9 orbital flight in May 1963, when Kennedy was still president.
Near the end of his life, he shared the map and the research he's been doing with a friend, Daryl Miklos.
And that's the guy who I said his father met Cooper, who vowed to complete Cooper's search for shipwrecks full of gold.
Now, here's an interesting thing Cooper and the shipwrecks, looking at them from space.
That's one thing that he could have been up there.
Doing and memorizing.
He had an incredible memory.
So when he was looking down at these things, he was tabulating the coordinates, et cetera, and taking all that in.
So that's an interesting aspect to it.
However, I think there's another aspect going on here, which is the mission that he was sent up for, I believe, didn't involve nuclear bases.
I believe it involved looking at these ancient structures.
And Cooper, who was very, very curious about the UFO file, Who had seen UFOs, who had gone on the record saying it was a very important topic to get out there, who had written letters to the UN about it.
I believe that this is the kind of curious person who wanted to be in the know about these things.
So when he remembered these coordinates, a lot of people think he was treasure hunting for Spanish galleons and all the rest of it.
I think we have to go deeper and say since it was right over the hot zone, with all the activity we know about the hot zone, with all the things relating to the Hemingways, and with all the information we have from the Casey readings.
In all the geopolitical intrigue in relation to the hot zone, that we have to now look at all of this information through different eyes.
However, Darryl Miklos' story is very, very interesting.
Specifically, reports Miklos, Cooper told him he found the potential treasure spots using a secret military sensor that had been installed in the spacecraft originally to hunt for Soviet nuclear missile bases hidden in the area of Cuba, where a major international crisis involving such missiles had occurred only a few months before the.
Flight.
Of course, the Cuban Missile Crisis is October 62 and the flight is May 63.
This is about eight months between those two.
Quote, they were utilizing some kind of long range detection equipment to look for nuclear threats, Miklos told Fox News.
And this gets really wild.
With that, his acute vision and possible camera, he started identifying things that looked like shipwreck material.
Okay, I'm going to have us replace shipwreck material with.
Ancient ruins, and I think then we're going to get a better idea of what is actually going on.
But anyway, the quote is he started identifying things that looked like shipwreck material.
Once he had written all the coordinates down, he went back to Earth and put together this incredible treasure map from space on a sea chart.
Now, him putting together a map of coordinates from staring at the hot zone doing these secret missions, I think is true.
What he was looking for, I think we need to look deeper than just shipwrecks.
And so the article says the secret sensor may be the real MacGuffin of the tale, especially the quest by Miklos.
To prove that it was real and hence that Cooper's story was accurate.
This object is the absolute key to the entire scenario.
Without it, everything else collapses.
So they go in and they try to say, did they have these sensors on them?
And there's a lot of tussle going on.
However, that's just about Cooper's Treasures, it's all about him searching for Spanish galleons.
So in the Tampa article, though, it says, alien spaceship may lay off Florida coast, says Discovery Channel.
Based on the same researcher.
So, now what is he talking about there?
Well, he said in the map that Cooper had given him, there was an anomaly down there.
And he went down there and he thinks that it's basically a downed craft.
Well, that would also explain a lot of the intrigue in relation to what we're seeing down there.
Now, Cooper's treasures, we're not going to see the alien aspects in the show brought up.
It's all about him finding this treasure.
And is that Christopher Columbus's anchor and that kind of stuff using Cooper's map?
But if Cooper was up there, and here we are in the 50th anniversary of the moon landing, and he's up there looking down from space at the hot zone, you get a really good snapshot of what's going on down there.
So if he was keeping these coordinates and if he was tracking these things, and if the map is real, then what he was seeing in terms of ruins is probably what's on that map, in my opinion.
Does this guy even have the map, or is this a way to get the map?
You know, bring the story out.
There's a lot of very unusual things about it.
And of course, it's a TV show, so there's leaps of faith associated with any of that information.
However, I will say in doing research on Cooper later that in his life, he was looking very deeply to integrate a new type of technology into our energy system.
And he talked about developing a UFO engine and he talked about using different types of fuel systems.
He knew a lot about these different.
Secret Kennedy Administration Missions00:07:21
Things, but he knew a lot about politics also.
So I really want to get us thinking about Cooper in this way and really start to think of him in this story as a real breakthrough in the hot zone.
Not for Spanish galleons.
I mean, this interesting thing about an alien spaceship, you know, that I don't know what it is.
I have seen clips of this guy talking about it in some of the pictures.
It's very anomalous what he's looking down at, but it definitely is in the hot zone.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
I have two great questions.
Okay.
Tracker 001 wants to know where.
Cooper's orders to have the equipment on during certain periods of the orbit, but Cooper left it on the entire orbit?
Well, it's interesting.
If you trust the story that he's getting there, but what I think might be important is that he had the ability to memorize this.
And it strikes me that he was the type to try to get answers.
So I've always believed that part of the story.
There are a lot of things where we just have to take Nicholas's word for this, but some aspects we don't have to.
The fact that You know, Cooper had come out in favor of UFO disclosure and that he had talked about these things through the UN and all the rest of it.
That's on record.
And the fact that he knew Miklos and his father, I think, is, you know, that's a pretty major factor in all this.
The fact that he died and we can't ask him directly about the map and all the rest of it makes other aspects, we have to kind of figure it out as we go along.
Okay, but there have been people who've tried to debunk what they were doing too.
What I think is more important is that Miklos, forget about the wrecks or whatever, that's all very interesting to treasure hunters, I'm sure.
But I think what Nicholas has done, which is important, has said that Cooper was up there looking down at the hot zone and gathering information outside of his official duties.
That, I think, could be a breakthrough because if he was looking for something and he did keep maps of it, then he was probably seeing those incredible ruins there that are off Cuba and off Bimini.
So we know that they exist.
We've got the Bimini Road, so that's easy.
That wasn't officially discovered until 1968, but I'm sure these guys had it a long time previous.
But what are the real implications of the fact that he was up there taking these pictures in the Haunt Zone?
Well, quote from this article NASA records show that Cooper took several dozen photographs, and that extremely small number.
Let's see, well, Miklos had gotten this document to show that, in fact, he had done it.
And he, Miklos, is obviously saying, well, he was taking pictures up there all the time.
And these other people are saying, well, I just took a small number of pictures.
And so there's a little bit of a back and forth there.
I think what's relevant for our purposes is that Cooper was up there on a secret mission during the Kennedy administration, looking at the hot zone with this special equipment and either taking pictures or memorizing it, one of the two.
I think for treasure hunters, it's great to think about Spanish galleons.
But I know when we're talking about NASA people and astronauts and People have major political connections like the Kennedys, they know a lot.
So, my guess is that he was looking for something totally different than Spanish galleons.
But it's a fascinating story.
The strange thing about the alien spacecraft underwater that Miklos said he found using Cooper's map is also kind of hanging out there in midair.
And we also need more answers around what that is and what that could be.
Where did that, okay, so it's a crashed UFO saucer?
That's what Miklos is describing it as.
But when did it supposedly crash?
Well, they don't know.
They don't know.
It's just that on the map that he has from Cooper, there was something on that map that said, along those connected dots, you're going to find something here.
So, why do they think it's crashed, not necessarily docked down under?
Oh, no, it's got fauna and stuff.
It's just a large mass with all the stuff overgrown on it, as if it was maybe a saucer that crashed in the 60s and has been under there for 50 years.
Okay.
Yeah.
I know.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
Wow, it's getting pretty deep on astronaut Gordon Cooper.
And this very unusual story from a treasure hunter about a map that he kept.
And they actually made a show about this map, but not in relation to the interesting UFO file aspect or the Atlantis aspect, but just in terms of like Spanish galleons and if Columbus had, you know, dropped one of his boats on the way down there.
But that is the series.
If everyone, there's some people out there, I know someone emailed me about it, but the show is called Cooper's Treasures.
And I do think it's interesting, especially when we talk about.
The aspects that we're looking at.
And if we look at it through a hot zone angle, it becomes a whole lot more interesting.
I'm going to do that way.
All right.
I might revisit a little bit more of that, but let's keep rolling along here.
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That Vimeo was taking stuff out.
They had always been kind of the boutique video site.
And so now a lot of people have started using other things like BitShoot or DLive or whatever.
And my feeling on it is it's any network that they're going to have to develop something that's independent of that system.
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Yes, Miss Olivia.
Nuclear Threats Around Cape Canaveral00:03:51
Richard Warrener wanted to know if Cooper saw Area 51 and took some pictures of it.
Is there a rumor going around about that?
I'm sure Cooper knew about Area 51.
Here's a few things to keep in mind.
NASA, theoretically, was not a military institution.
So when the Kennedys send up capsules to spy on things for military purposes, it's a clandestine operation.
So the space aspects around Cape Canaveral.
And it's all there in Florida.
So, what we know about Cooper looking down at the hot zone is that his duty was to study that area because the cover story was that it's Cuba and we need to watch for nuclear bases.
Well, nuclear bases underwater, that, you know, it seemed like kind of a stretch given the kind of presence that we had there.
So, there were nuclear submarines and there were incidents with them that were coming in from the Soviet Union.
To Cuba, that we turned back during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
But the idea that you're going to be sitting up there and using someone like Gordon Cooper to just kind of collect information on a potential nuclear threat underwater, it doesn't wash for me.
No, I think he was up there doing surveillance.
I think that if you were looking for the type of information like nuclear information, you'd have a specialist involved in that.
I think with Cooper, you would be able to, because of his space expertise, be able to draw attention to coordinates in the ocean if you were looking for something.
In my opinion, his job up there was to look for these ruins in the hot zone.
It makes the most sense.
They would need that, just like a satellite can take great pictures now of things that are underwater.
They needed this detail, I believe.
Military detail, they had tons of it.
And so, this idea that Cooper was backing them up for the Cuban Missile Crisis, I don't buy that.
But you never know in relation to what they were using NASA for.
But technically, it was a civilian agency.
Yes.
Don Forbes, any possibility of JFK and Castro sharing UFO info?
Well, it's interesting because JFK wanted to share the info with Khrushchev.
We know that.
That's on record.
And he directed the Central Intelligence Agency to gather up the high threat.
Cases so that they could share them.
And he was going to do a joint moon mission with the Soviets, which was anathema to the Central Intelligence Agency, who just wanted a war footing.
And remember, a lot of the CIA people had come in, had been set up during Operation Paperclip.
So, General Galen and those types, who were some of the early foundations of the Central Intelligence Agency, you know, they had just fought a war where they had lost millions of Germans to the.
Soviet Union.
So, you know, yeah, they weren't going to be their favorite guys.
Okay, so now we understand, I think, the complexities around the geopolitical aspect, the kind of more metaphysical aspect with Casey telling us these things are rising, and these informed people who are trying to buy lots and do different things to be ready for this situation when it happens.
Then we have unusual characters in the hot zone, like the Hemingways and like McAfee now.
And a lot of these very unusual tensions and these things going back and forth, including driving all of those diplomats out with these sound weapons.
It's quite a unique situation when you think about it.
Think about some other place on earth that has all those things happening.
It's hard.
White Sands Fleet Disappearances00:15:07
It's really, you have to dig through it.
So, yeah, actually, I promised another shot of those ruins, didn't I?
That is another shot of Zelitsky's ruins off the westernmost tip of Cuba.
And she said that with the submersible, when they got close up, they had hieroglyphs on them.
But what's interesting about this is that it wasn't some isolated spot.
She said the layout looked like the vista of a city.
So they had it spread out completely the way you'd be over a city like Los Angeles and looking at all the various buildings.
So this stuff was spread out all over the seafloor.
She also talked about how the sand was white down there, which I found very interesting.
I want to take a real interesting little detour for a moment into some information about the Bermuda Triangle and how it came to light, and some very interesting exostegonography involved.
So, this is how the Bermuda Triangle got on the board.
This is an article from 1952, and it's called Sea Mystery at Our Back Door.
And it's by George X. Sand.
Now, this is a very interesting pseudonym to use because this person, I've done a lot of searches for his material, and he basically drops off the face of the earth after this article.
George Sand, of course, is the famous pseudonym in the 19th century.
It's a female writer.
It's a great author.
Yes.
And to put an X in there, I found quite interesting.
I think it might indicate that this is a woman who's writing it.
Quite possibly.
But so he goes on to talk about all the different disappearances and the unusual things about them.
And one of the things that he notes over and over again is that in the radio communication, they go ahead and radio back that the water has turned white.
That's quite interesting to me, considering the kind of color of the water over there.
So we got this through George X Sand.
Later on, the term would be brought out, Bermuda Triangle.
He's already talked about a triangle in here.
And they finally kind of delineate the pattern.
And it was because during World War II and after there, these entire squadrons would disappear, the ships would disappear, and then they wouldn't find the ships.
Or they would find the ships with all the people missing.
And they didn't find a lot of these wrecks.
So there was this reverse thing that was happening.
And there were people who would go on the record saying that they were going into these kind of revolving clouds.
Now, as a result of that, they would lose time, the people who survived, that is, most of them didn't.
So they would just disappear.
We don't know what happened to them actually, but we assume that they're dead or something strange has happened.
We've seen stories about people in relation to the hot zone.
Somebody who was working at Autech, for example, claimed that on his radar, a landmass appeared.
And he was a very, you know, his background checked out and his story checked out.
And they have to deal with what are called USOs, which are these unidentified objects that are under the water, they rise out, they fly away.
So they're just like a UFO, except they're coming directly out of this underwater base.
But with this Autech whistleblower, what he was seeing was a landmass.
Now, I think this is very interesting because of the very anomalous stories we have that go all the way back to Atlantis.
And that gets us into this apotheum effect.
And if it's possible that in a dimensional interface involving Magnetism, considering what the Atlanteans were working with, is it possible that part of that landmass actually was grabbed and has this reappearing ability?
We know that in things, in stories about the Philadelphia experiment, for example, when they made the ship disappear and when it reappeared, they couldn't control that, which is why they stopped that line of research with live people.
So when we get into people from Autech who retire and then come out and say, well, What I was seeing was a reappearing landmass that was just there.
It was like a whole island was there suddenly.
This could be in relation to this island rising, but it also could have something to do with this very unusual magnetic anomaly.
Let's think of what happens when someone goes into the Bermuda Triangle.
You know, they lose time, their compasses all spin, they experience unusual effects.
They're, you know, the engines shut off.
It's all apotheum.
Effects in general.
It's a whole reality distortion thing happens.
And then, if they make it out of there and they come back to tell us, this is what goes on.
But very often, when we think about the two eye stone and its ability for levitation, it could lift things.
You know, Casey said, Oh, this is how they powered their airships and they could put everything up, and that they had submarines that they used and they had these crafts that could go through mountains and things like that.
It's quite a remarkable technology when it gets distorted.
And when the Belial groups distort it, what kind of a technological leftover is there?
But remember, If it had that ability to levitate things, it could also suck them down the other way using the magnetic pull of the earth.
So, when Atlantis got sucked in that way and the temples of Poseidon and all that stuff goes down, is that mechanism still at work?
So that when planes and ships go over this particular area, is there some aspect of the distortion of the two eye stones still causing that?
This gets us, I think, closer.
Into starting to understand the mystery of those anomalies.
They understand the unusual magnetic pull.
I was looking and I pulled it out here.
It's a map of Bimini that was done by this NASA engineer who retired and was very fascinated with the Casey readings.
And he's the guy who put together this whole thing about the structure of the two eye stone that I've shown in this program from time to time, where he made like a scale model of it basically.
But he went in and measured the magnetic intensity of Vimini, and he found very, very unusual anomalies in the middle of the island over by South Vimini.
So he basically charts it going kind of like off the charts here.
Magnetic, it's very interesting because what he surmises from all that is that there's ancient volcanic activity, and there might actually be a volcano beneath Vimini.
How it is they go about scanning those things, somebody like Zelitsky, I'm sure, could tell us.
So I'm not going to spend too much time on it.
But I find the fact that Bimini has this strange magnetic charge very interesting, considering what Casey was telling us in relation to the Atlanteans.
Yes, Miss Livia.
I just asked everyone in the chat what they thought of, well, and Gigi, what they thought of the white water.
I've gotten a lot of good answers.
Gigi just said if the water was white at certain disasters, that may indicate a weather weapon.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I'll tell you what's weird about this white business is that one of the things that Paulina Zelitsky said is that all those ruins that we're looking at there, that if you get down there with the submersible, that sand that they're on is white, which I think is also kind of an anomaly, something she didn't expect.
So something turns it white when they're around these things.
Okay.
Now let's look at an actual UFO incident that took place.
In the hot zone around Cuba.
And this is very well detailed.
I'm just going to touch on it briefly.
The book that it comes from and the person who witnessed it was Bill Schroeder.
It's an obscure book in ufology.
I don't know why.
It should be, it's one of the best documented.
It's got the best witnesses.
The book finally came out in 2016 and it's called Unknown Down.
This is Bill Schroeder's story about being a radar operator and.
With his friend, and they were both positioned in the hot zone off of Florida, one on the Atlantic Ocean side and the other on the Gulf of Mexico side.
And he describes how there's a fleet of UFOs that they're watching.
He's watching four, one big one and three little ones that are going right off the coast.
And he notices that they're in a search pattern.
And this is in, by the way, March of 1967, where there was a huge flap all through Florida.
The craft, as they described them, looked like this.
It was kind of these flat capsule type deals, saucer deals.
Another depiction of it from what the The friend was looking at.
This is another one.
And this is an artist depiction, actually, but that's the type of saucer that he was taking a look at.
So, just a kind of a quick overview on this.
It's known as the Cuban 1967 jet incident because a Cuban jet using a Soviet MiG got destroyed in this interaction with this UFO, oddly enough.
So, let's just take a quick look at it.
Okay, this is the report now.
The story became known in the form of a statement by a security specialist who was assigned to the 6947th Security Squadron centered at Homestead Air Force Base, that's Florida, a unit of the U.S. Air Force Security Service.
The specialist had attended a lecture in 1978 by nuclear physicist and UFO researcher the late Stanton Friedman, who was an extraordinary researcher.
He informed Friedman of the incident at the conclusion of the talk.
Friedman asked for additional details, which were provided later in the form of a typed statement by the specialist.
Eventually, we got Schroeder's entire story.
The 6947th Security Squadron's mission was to monitor all Cuban Air Force communications and radar transmissions.
100 of the squadron's men were assigned to a Detachment A located in Key West.
This forward base against attack from Cuba was on Boca Chica Key, a tropical island in the Florida Keys.
Sounds like a nice place to visit.
East of Key West, Okay, let's move down here.
One day in March 1967, a Spanish speaking intercept operator of Detachment A heard Cuban air defense radar controllers report an unidentified bogey approaching Cuba from the northeast.
The UFO entered Cuban airspace at a height of about 10,000 meters at about 33,000 feet and sped off at Mach 1, 660 miles an hour.
Two Soviet MiGs that were on the Cuban island with Cuban pilots.
Chased after it.
The single seat MiG 21, they go into what the craft is all about.
The jets were guided within three miles of the UFOs by Cuban ground control intercept radar personnel.
The flight leader radioed that the object was a bright metallic sphere with no visible markings.
When a try at radio contact failed, the Cuban Air Defense Headquarters ordered the flight leader to arm his weapons and destroy the object.
The leader reported.
His radar was locked onto the object and his missiles were armed.
Seconds later, the wingman screamed to the ground controller that his leader's jet had exploded.
When he gained his composure, the wingman radioed there was no smoke or flame, that his leader's MiG 21 had simply disintegrated.
Cuban radar then reported the UFO quickly accelerated and climbed at 98,000 feet.
At last report, it was heading.
Towards South America.
Now they go on and on here.
Some of the interesting stories I want to mention about this.
I listened to a series of interviews of Bill Schroeder and actually emailed him.
But this is much I can tell you that he was operating the radar and he and his friend are watching these crafts do this search pattern.
And they're like, what are those?
Let's get the word out about it.
They're both watching them.
And then what happens is one of the crafts, and this is apparently the craft that had this little tango in Cuba.
Breaks off from the main group.
Now, some of the images that they provided, let's see if this will show up actually.
Might give us a little bit of a better idea.
But I'm going to kind of give you the idea of what happens.
So it actually goes right over his radar station and it shuts everything down as it goes.
And then it heads off to Cuba and it has this strange encounter with the Cuban MiG and the Cuban MiG.
Attempts to shoot it down and instead is disintegrated.
And the American intelligence forces overhearing and monitoring all the Cuban communications hear this.
Now, this unknown down story, I think, constitutes maybe one of the most incredible encounters because these groups of craft are looking for something.
During this period, interestingly enough, in Miami, a craft landed at a school.
And the teachers and the children were basically traumatized.
And then, if you look through the series of reports after the fact, they try to kind of say, well, you know, it was just hysteria or whatever it happened to be.
But they all told the same story about this craft landing.
So, somebody somewhere had lost track of something or someone, and they were searching right off the coast of Florida for it.
For some reason, one of these craft headed directly into Cuba.
DARPA Radar Polarity Reversals00:05:33
Now, I have a few excerpts from this guy, Schroders.
This is him in 1967.
The picture is actually blurry.
I'll get some better stuff on him.
But very interesting guy.
And he would do military police work after this.
And he had a very distinguished career.
And then he worked with Florida's MUFON.
A very interesting guy, a very interesting story.
And what he was most surprised at was the incredible reversal of his own equipment.
So let's take a quick look at this map.
Here we have.
These are the craft that they're following.
There's one over here off the coast of Florida, and here's the bottom by the Straits of Florida.
And coming up here are these Cuban ships going to take a look at it.
Now, there's another flight pattern that they have.
Let me interrupt you for a second.
So, Nicholas Kruppus wanted to know when that UFO landing in Miami took place.
It's March 1967.
Yeah, just like this incident, it's related.
That's the whole point.
There's a weird flap that takes place there.
Now, the way he describes it, let's see if I can get this.
One of them here breaks off.
Remember, he's watching these four, and his friend is over here watching these four.
So that's eight ships.
This one breaks off as they show it here, and it heads off towards Cuba.
That's where he sees it.
When it goes over his battery radar station here, it shuts everything down.
Here, oddly enough, the base that they are launching the MiGs from is San Antonio, which is the same place where we have the ruins off of Cuba later discovered.
And that is the nature of where they were.
And then this is the one that gets destroyed, obviously, by this other craft coming in.
This is the map that he had on that.
And if you search for UFO Bill Schroeder or that book, you'll certainly be able to come up with it.
But we're going to get deeper on that one.
One of the things I can say, and you might want to hold that.
It's interesting with Schroeder's story.
I'm going to play an excerpt, actually.
But I think that if we have.
The sound file, let's try that.
But yeah, do you have a question on that one?
Sure.
Bunya wanted to know do you know if DARPA is involved in the hot zones?
Great question.
Well, Autech, here's the interesting thing about Autech they are in Andros.
And Andros, there's a thing called the Andros platform.
And the Andros platform is where that's another one of these underwater anomalies like the Bimini Wall.
But there are many things about Autech being there that are unusual.
And they're basically monitoring the entire hot zone.
That's their headquarters.
And so there's no question that Autech, but Autech can liaise, of course, with DARPA at any point.
What's also unusual about the hot zone, Bimini, and all the rest of it, is that what we're looking at is NASA does a lot of what they call sea current investigations there.
But what are they actually doing there?
It all begs a very interesting question.
Let's listen to Schroeder.
I'm going to play him right off my phone.
And let's see if this will come through.
But the target continued over me.
And then, about four seconds after I locked on him, he hit our site with electro countermeasures.
Now, I'll never figure out how he'd done it, but he shut down our entire site.
It appeared that the polarity on our DC equipment had been reversed.
I'll never know that for sure.
But I do know before the scopes died, they stopped and the cursors went backwards.
I've discussed this with a lot of avionics mechanics, and they can't figure it out either.
They agree with me that it had to have been some kind of a polarity reversal.
Naturally, our site was black.
I exited the BCC.
As I was going out the door, my launcher crewman, who had been out on the launch pads with the birds, my launcher sergeant ran up to me and said, Bill, We seen him.
He went right over us.
It looked like a meteor, but it was flying level.
And that's the last I seen of him.
The next morning, we had a debriefing, and they told us that don't worry about the whole thing.
It was a NORAD exercise, and just ignore it.
I asked them if it would be considered top secret, and they said, no, it's not top secret.
It just didn't happen.
It was just an exercise.
So, it's very interesting, and I think that Schroeder's testimony is really fascinating when you think about it, because what he's saying is that when the craft goes over his site, not only does it shut down the radar site, it reverses the polarity of the equipment.
Hemingway Family Pressure Pieces00:05:15
Now, when we talk about apothecary effects, when we talk about things that happen in the Bermuda Triangle, etc., we're getting this sense again that UFO activity.
Relates very much to this apotheum activity we have that dates back to the Atlantean times when they talk about, you know, basically this reality distortion physics taking place and the mystery schools adopt the X as a way of maintaining and holding the knowledge about this and this incident.
Now, when you speed it up and you have people in more modern times encountering this exact same thing, why is it and how is it that it reverses the polarity on the equipment that we have?
And Is that somehow what those craft are doing there in the first place?
Because apparently, this is something that the Two Eye Stone was capable of doing, because we still have that effect happening when those ships fly over this area where, according to Casey, the Atlanteans were.
So it's quite an interesting anomaly if you can put all these pieces together and you say, We sent Cooper up there in the secret mission to observe the hot zone.
We have these stories about Hemingway spending all this time.
Looking for things underwater in this vault that he had collected, and how they risked a national security incident to get that vault out of Cuba.
Quite remarkable, you think about it.
And then, if we go deeper into the pressure on the Hemingway family in relation to this, we start to understand that he was involved.
Ernest Hemingway was so closely involved with this.
And then, when we find out that his mother, Grace, was close with the Caseys and getting readings on Ernest.
Then we start to think about Casey's readings and how important they actually were between 1926 and 1945, talking about Bimini, because 26 is the first time he mentioned it.
We start to kind of put these pieces together, and then we have the kind of anomalies that are discussed in relation to the land rising, and that these people that are in the know picking out lots in the Atlantic Ocean for when it rises, because it'll be sovereign territory.
And then we have this incredible.
Wave of UFO sightings and UFO aspects going on in the hot zone.
One of which, oh, by the way, the report, the official Air Force report on that incident, when you go through those records, see if I can point this out, but yes, it's got the X steganography letting the people on the inside know this is an X case.
Those things are important because it's hard for us on the outside to track those things.
And, you know, when we get indications that.
You know, there are groups like the CIA is coming forward to give you UFO disclosure or things like that.
You know, we're in the worst possible situation, but we still can get the information without relying on agencies like that, which are proven to be liars for decades.
Now, one thing I want to point out, which is this is a book by Hillary Hemingway, who was Les Hemingway's daughter and the niece of Ernest Hemingway.
This book is all about alien abduction in the hot zone.
And in fact, there's a character in here named Colonel Andros, which is the name of where the Autech Island is.
That's a pretty good creative license.
Yes, what do you got?
I just love that.
Isn't that something?
It's amazing when we get into the thick of it because we start to really get a feeling for Hilary Hemingway and the family's knowledge.
And when you think of Les Hemingway and the kind of idealism that he had around it, founding the new Atlantis, we get a whole different picture of what these people are.
People in these families are about.
Of course, there's a craft there, and this is called Dream Child.
Very interesting novel.
And of course, she writes with her husband now, Jeffrey Lindsay, and his famous program is Dexter, or was Dexter.
I don't even know if that's still around.
But he's one of the main writers for that show.
So, yeah, very, very interesting material indeed.
And what I found out is that they did eight years of study on people who had encounters, alien encounters, she and her husband, and that the Defense Department wanted the results of their studies.
Did they get them?
I don't know, but I know that it's on record that they asked them for that information.
So, whether, yeah, they probably did get it because remember the Hemingways, even the older, you know, the Jack, who was the father of Marielle and Margot, he's a CIA agent.
So the family has those deep roots into that.
Interestingly enough, you know, we know Ernest was himself involved in kind of intelligence activity.
So, yeah, it's quite remarkable.
And I think we start to get a picture there that this family knows.
Magnetized Stones and Mystery Traditions00:09:07
Now, in Cuba recently, we've seen incredible fireballs happening.
And these are meteors.
Suddenly, the place is like, you know, getting hit with meteors left and right, as is Venezuela.
These are some pictures of when those meteors hit and cause fires.
You know, a lot of them break up before they even get there, and they shouldn't get to this level, but it does happen.
But we're seeing an awful lot of strange activity in relation to these places.
So, Think the hot sun's really on fire, and I think that's the message here.
Uh, that we're starting to get a feel for that.
And, um, with that, Miss Olivia, I turn it over to your very capable hands.
All right, so Nicholas Krupas wanted to know, uh, do you know if the destroyed Cuban MIG was recovered?
Kind of no way to know, right?
Because it's all the reports are that it was disintegrated, um, and when.
It's interesting because Schroeder, who has that deep history of being in the military, he's like, oh, you know, when they reversed all the stuff at my radar station, I could go out there on the deck and be like, oh my God, and talk with 35 other Marines and say, that thing just reversed all our equipment.
But if you're in your plane and you lock onto them and they consider you a target, if they reverse your stuff and you're just your plane and you're out there, then you don't have any ability to compensate for it.
What can you do?
You're done.
So it's like if they take out your engine when you're in flight.
So there's no question that this is a very serious incident.
And it's not really, I don't think that, I'm glad that the story's out there, but I think it's one of those stories that should be more front and center because the details and the evidence on it is so great.
But it also, the fact that it takes place within the hot zone, I think is very crucial.
Yes, Ms. Lavia.
David Tormina said, wouldn't it be a good guess that those ancient stone megaliths were magnetized?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
There's no question about it.
In fact, Casey describes how the stones were magnetized.
And when he talks about the fire stones, it's interesting because the fire stones appear to be a portable later generation of the two eye stone, which is very interesting in itself.
But he talks about the stones which were magnetized.
And he also says that they would, in interacting with those stones, get messages.
And be able to interact directly with their priestesses to these spiritual beings in the outer spheres.
So it's quite remarkable, the scenario that he's describing.
But he says that technology was taken to the Yucatan.
That's where it resides.
But he does say that the Temple of Poseidia, which is right off the coast of Bimini, apparently has the information about how to construct what the two eyed stone was.
So you can definitely see different groups wanting to get their hands on that material in what I've talked about with Joseph Farrell before, which is archaeological or archaeology wars.
And we do see a lot of that happen.
Yes.
Najat Madri, when these saucers appear, Do the skies change colors?
Well, that's interesting.
I've heard of clouds forming in relation to it.
I haven't heard of skies changing colors, or maybe I haven't looked at enough cases.
But certainly, we've seen a number of anomalies where people lose time, equipment gets shut off.
This guy's whole station was the polarity was reversed in the equipment.
That's a pretty good trick.
So, they're quite remarkable effects that show up.
That kind of apotheum effect is very much.
Like the effect that ended Atlantis in the first place.
And a lot of people will say, well, you know, Atlantis, it was a comet strike or various things.
And I'm sure there are a number of factors involved.
But the reversal of the two eye stone in the Casey readings and how it was tuned too high and caused destruction by setting off the fires in the earth, it seems to me that there's a physical aspect that takes place.
But it upsets the fabric of reality so much that we're talking about upsetting actual physical reality.
So, you know, there's a physical aspect and there's the physics that govern that.
But when you introduce this other factor, that is, if you use, using Casey's cosmology here, if you use the two eye stone, which was an interface with the gods, basically, and you then turn that into kind of a laser weapon, the distortion that takes place is something that these.
Mystery traditions remembered.
And it was always like, let's keep that out of the hands of mankind because humanity can't handle that kind of power.
And it's remembered as the days when men were as gods.
So, and even Casey in his reading says the Atlanteans attained the highest spiritual and physical development as had been seen on the earth.
And when he's talking about them in the 20s.
So we're starting to get a feel there, I think.
This idea that the crafts, They're kind of like they carry the apothegm with them, you know.
And we see if you really go into those abduction stories, you have people walking through walls, uh, you have you know, they lose time, uh, sometimes they see deceased relatives and things like that.
It's it's a very reality distortion, it's almost like you see all the levels of reality all at once, uh, in all the different dimensions.
So there is this aspect to it, but on the most basic level, you know, a UFO report it comes in.
We see it, you know, and it shuts off.
All these engines say, well, all of our engines were shut off.
The power lines went down, you know, and then where it landed, nothing grows, you know.
So there's all these unusual effects in relation to it, giving us some idea that there's.
And I think that other people have discussed that there are spiritual aspects to it as well, or let's say more metaphysical aspects to it.
Yes.
Ray's story Were the pyramid ziggurats or other shapes in Cuban waters?
Where is that picture?
Hmm.
Yeah, well, it is, in fact.
No, there are pyramids and there are structures.
And remember, it's a whole city vista, the way she describes it.
So it's like looking out over a metropolitan area.
And I think this is what is so exciting about Zelinsky's work, because she's very matter of fact about it.
And by the way, she doesn't think that it's Atlantis, which I think is very interesting.
She's like, well, it's obviously some culture that's like the Mayans, you know, but I don't know what you'd call it.
Interestingly enough, if you look at Egerton Sykes' work talking about Bimini as Murius, that may have been the last piece of Atlantis that was left.
And it's that mountain range that she tracked between Cuba and the Yucatan Peninsula.
And she found a mountain range down there.
So, if that was a mountain range, that may have been the last area.
But remember, what was Murias famous for?
Healing.
The healing crystal temples that they had.
So, this is the legends that go through the Celts, which is if somebody was dying or whatever, they try to get them over to Murias to get healed in these crystal temples.
And then by the time you get to.
Pastibillon, he's looking for the Fountain of Youth and he is instructed to go find it at Bimini.
And the Hemingways find the healing well, which is also very interesting because people go in there and then their arthritis is cured and all the rest of it.
So there's something remarkable, I would say, it lends itself toward magic when you're getting into that story of Mirius in relation to Bimini.
And whenever you look at maps of Bimini, it's fascinating because, let's see if I have one here.
Yeah, I mean, really, it is.
That is tiny.
I mean, it's literally a sliver.
These other places, Andros is huge by comparison.
Bimini is just this little piece of it, but that's the last kind of above ground piece of Poseidonia, according to Casey.
And that's where the temple will rise first.
There's a reason why Casey would do that.
And it's, you know, that kind of information gets let out through these mystery schools and mystery traditions because.
There's a reason for it, and in this case, I think it was to instruct us that you know we're going to in our era see these land masses rise, and these ruins are going to be associated with it.
Off-World Civilizations and Visitors00:05:11
So it's the mystery school saying this is what they are, you know.
Basically, don't let anyone tell you what they are.
This is you're going to discover this is the Atlantean heritage there, okay?
Okay, this is a really intriguing question, and it is not a troll question, okay, Cameron Freeman.
DJ, as a serious anthroposophist, why should I care about the UFO phenomenon?
Not saying I shouldn't, I just find myself uninterested in the subject and would like to hear your take.
Well, I do think that there's, like, the UFO file is important because it is, the UFO file represents the X technology.
So that's where it resides.
So it represents mankind's, humanity's ability to, Latch on to this tradition of almost like a spiritual technology.
One.
Two, the idea of off world civilizations is something that humanity needs to mature to, that we have reached a certain point because we had that information before.
They understood those visitors before, star visitors, and how many Indian tribes and how many Amazon tribes have told us about star visitors.
So, obviously, they understand that aspect.
In our society, in our scientific materialism dominated society, knowledge about off world civilizations can open up our outlook on life and life in the cosmos.
And I do think it's very dramatic.
I think the danger is when things are projected onto off world civilizations.
It's funny, as I said that, my camera's going crazy.
But there is this kind of projection, I think, that takes place.
So I agree that that's not healthy.
And it is this projection that they're going to save us or they can get us out of this.
Or that on the other side, we have this Christian thing that's pushed, which is that all aliens are demons or something like that.
It seems to me that's all out of whack, really.
What they should be ultimately are.
Other civilizations that are peers and probably had a role in our own history.
And also, I think the other thing that I would point out in relation to them is that, you know, we've learned just a little tiny bit about what that is.
So if you're interested in anthroposophy and Steiner's spiritual science work, then you're interested in the nature of reality.
So yeah, I would think the two would go together.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
Okay, Contiki Man.
Oh, wait, that is that pyramid.
That you wanted to see.
They are very interesting buildings.
These are obvious pyramids here.
These are temple structures.
They may have tumbled over, but I think we get a pretty good idea from looking at that what Zelinsky found.
It's definitely, they look like Atlantean ruins.
Definitely man made, that's for sure.
Yes.
Okay, Conti command.
Isn't the UFO relevant not only for off world civilizations, but entities along the extended Kardashev scale?
Yeah, I think that we get a whole education there when we're talking about off world civilizations, the UFO factor.
You know, when you see a craft, we have all these stories that we've inherited from our ancestors, right?
And in the modern era since the 40s, but, you know, they've been going back a lot further than that.
So it's a very important aspect that's coming in for us to take note of.
The fact that suddenly there's a wave and we become aware of it.
When they really weren't thinking of it so much, let's say in the 1700s, so that there are very interesting cases.
This is the period of time where I think we've come up to a knowledge point where we're going to.
It's a very strange transformation for humanity to be able to admit to this.
And I think when they talk about we've been prepared for this through different shows and things like that, I think it's inevitable.
And I also think attributing just physical qualities to it and thinking of it just as a nuts and bolts kind of civilization is a big mistake, which is why all the.
You know, junk about tic tac UFO and all this kind of stuff and the way it's been manipulated.
They just want you to think of this kind of enemy alien thing so they can kind of build up a new defense budget against that and have all this power while they actually research the real deal.
So it's very important, I think, how we think of it.
Yes.
Do you have a reference for the bus UFO?
You know, I don't have that one with me, but it definitely is something that took place in the Bahamas.
And it was 1985, and it was seen by a tour group.
I believe it was in relation to a.
I am going to bring this, I'll bring it out on another show.
Andros Island Atlantis Ruins00:04:29
But as I was reading about it, it was basically like a cruise ship, and the whole cruise ship saw this thing go by.
And at first, they were like, Is this part of the advertising?
Is it a blimp?
What's going on here?
And then they were all freaked out because it was basically this huge thing that looked like a bus going by.
One quick thing I want to insert here in terms of what they know about in Cuba in relation to this.
Andrew Collins, who wrote a book called Gateway to Atlantis, is a good writer, and he did a lot of study about the idea.
This is a modern guy, he's still with us.
And He did a lot of work on the idea of a Cuban as Atlantis, basically, that Cuba was Atlantis, which a lot of researchers believe.
Now, in August 2002, British researcher Andrew Collins renewed interest in the search for Atlantis.
He also discussed the possibility that Andros Island between Bimini and Cuba could hold ruins of Atlantis, which I also agree with.
He mentions Sykes.
Now, This is interesting because Egerton Sykes' works are kept at the ARE, which is the Casey Foundation.
Now, Sykes was a world recognized authority on Atlantis who carefully evaluated all of the evidence on Atlantis as well as conducting his own expeditions until his death in 1983.
He felt that the Casey Foundation should have done more, should have been more active on this search.
All of his books and manuscripts and research materials are housed in a secure area of the library at the ARE.
This is not an easy place to get into.
Sykes is involved, and it's you know, if they could digitize that out and give us all just a nice good CD of that, we'd be all set.
So, the articles that he kept and that he translated from Spanish, which is important because there's a lot of research done in Russia, in Spain, in Mexico, and other places that if we it's not translated, we never get our hands on that research and our work never continues.
Quote Humberto Martinez, MD, who read to the audience the articles detailed.
1950s efforts to locate the remains of Atlantis by Cuban archaeologists, all of which were subsequently suspended due to political changes.
That is the big communist revolution that took place on the island and the Cuban Missile Crisis and all the rest of it.
Completely cut off in the public the search.
But nevertheless, the information pointed to the areas around Cuba, including Andros and Bimini, as probable sites of ruins.
Our research of satellite images has uncovered a site in Cuba which fits all of Plato's statements about the center city.
This is very interesting.
I think we're going to hear more about this, and I'm going to put this part in here real quickly about Egerton Sykes and Mirius.
Mirius is, and again, Egerton Sykes being this really advanced Atlantis researcher, he was a British scholar.
So, what he believes is this.
That about 10,000 BC, the Atlanteans inhabited the city of Murias that lay in a valley near Bimini.
Murias was the seat, and he got this from studying Celtic records.
Murias was the seat of government for the area with extensive facilities that included a hospital and a home for travelers in distress.
Sykes tells us that on a hill above Murias, the Atlanteans built an exquisite healing temple.
From the information he uncovered, Sykes hypothesized that the architecture of the building.
Incorporated sacred geometry and displayed sophisticated knowledge of the structure of the universe in a manner similar to the Great Pyramid of Egypt.
The most unusual feature of this enormous temple, according to Sykes, the Murias Temple was its translucent rock crystal windows, which local people remembered until contemporary times.
Quite fascinating.
And I think we have to get that understanding of what Bimini is as the last vestige of Atlantis.
Right in the hot zone on the other end of that city that Paulina Zelitsky found.
So hopefully that ties those two together.
Supporting the Dark Journalist Show00:02:59
Yes.
By any chance, did you check when the Bimini Road area was last above sea level?
Well, this is interesting because the ruins themselves are only maybe 20 feet down.
But the problem is that those sea levels changed roughly 8,000 BC.
So, when they find ruins and things of that nature, they have to know that they're at least 8,000 BC.
In Casey's work, it's 10,000 and 10,500 BC.
That's the end of Atlantis.
In Plato's version, it's about 9,600 BC.
Very interesting.
Wow.
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Coral Castle Pole Shift Theories00:12:32
You would not believe how much time and energy this shows.
Yeah, we definitely put a lot into it.
And my hat's off to Miss Olivia because I think she did a good job.
I just show up on Friday night.
So you're the one who does all the work on printing.
So far, so good.
Okay, Esoteric 369 Wall.
Please ask Daniel if there was any mention of Ed Leeds-Scalin talking about UFOs at Coral Castle.
Wow.
Well, look, when you're in Coral Castle, you're heading to Key West.
So it's in that strip.
It's like, I think it's 30 miles out of Miami.
So you're getting into what is essentially the hot zone.
That case, actually, the UFO case in the radar station, the way that they were showing that, it was like how Key West jets off into the ocean.
There's no question.
That whole area has this very important resonance.
And Leeds Galman knew that.
He was one of the most advanced inventors, and we never found out his secrets.
But he created this remarkable coral castle, which is only referenced.
The only thing that we could really compare it to is something like Stonehenge or buildings in Egypt, for example.
So we really are getting something there.
We're getting a wave and an understanding when you're dealing with coral castle.
And he brought that in.
And he said, when they asked him how it was made, because remember, he did it alone, but he said that the way that it was done was by utilizing the techniques of the ancients and what they knew about the magnetic south and north pole.
Let's think about that for real.
Absolutely incredible.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
Okay, so Brenda Fisher, is it possible this landmass rises when Earth experiences the next magnetic pole reversal?
Well, it's interesting because it was a pole shift that.
Finally, disrupted the Atlantean island.
So, but that was just after a number of other things had taken place.
There's no question with this incredible upheavals that were going on that we lost history and we would lose the same history now.
We've already witnessed a magnetic pole shift going on, even in our own century.
So, an actual pole shift would be disastrous.
And I don't think that this culture really could handle it.
So, would we be, and this is a question that I talked and asked Graham Hancock about, which is, would we be reduced to hunter gatherers all over again?
And I guess the nature of the problem is yes, absolutely.
So, go for it.
We'll take a couple more questions.
Richard Humphrey, how deep are the ruins in Cuba?
They're certainly deeper than Bimini.
You know, I have the stat on that.
They're much deeper than Bimini.
I think they're about a.
I think there's something along two to three miles down.
So they're far, far further down than Bimini.
And I think that it's funny because the exact stat I don't have with me, but I do think that Paulina Zelitsky is so exacting in her work that any of the reports that she came out with relating to the ruins, that information is there.
And that is a good question, though.
I wanted to get this out there real briefly, which is from.
Hilary Hemingway's book, Hunting with Hemingway, which is all about spending time with her dad, Les Hemingway, and some of the interesting banter that took place here.
Just so we kind of get this idea of the land rising a little bit tighter.
Okay.
So it's her mother and this professor, and they're talking with her dad.
Professor, my mother interrupted, you do know that Les really did build an island, don't you?
Really?
Keo Ernesto.
Hell no, Dad answered.
That kind of crap would have turned Papa's stomach.
Besides, there's only one name fit to give an island raised from the sea.
What's that? The professor asked.
New Atlantis, of course, Dad said, and stated that humming my country, tis of thee in the background.
You actually built an island in the ocean, the professor asked.
Not just an island.
Williford interrupted, who's another friend who's hanging out with him, for a moment, dropping his slightly off key humming.
You're looking at the president of his own country.
President?
Is that legal?
It sure is.
Everything by the book, Daddy said.
And now Charlie swung in to hail to the chief.
My mother said, Charlie, please pick a key, any key at all.
Daddy ignored the bantering and went on.
We raised the new Atlantis on a seamount about six miles off Jamaica's coast.
We declared our sovereignty July 4th, 1964.
Why there?
The ocean depth surrounding the seamount is about 1,000 feet, but at the mount we were, 25 feet from the surface, and this is most important, we were in international waters.
Do you know why that's important, Professor?
No, actually, I don't.
When most of us get food, get good and fed up with the civilization, we dream of escaping to a tropical island.
Am I right?
Yes, of course, but.
Now, this is Les Hemingway talking.
But there aren't any, not anymore in this day and age.
Even the most remote split of land is claimed by one government or another.
But if an island was to rise up in international waters, it could be claimed as a sovereign country.
Let me read it again.
But if an island was to rise up in international waters, it could be claimed as a sovereign country.
And so we kind of get the impression there that Hemingway understood that this landmass was rising.
Where did he get the information?
Certainly the family connection to Casey's information.
I don't think there's any doubt about it.
And I think it explains a great deal of the intrigue about Hemingway.
On Cuba and the ongoing intrigue.
I will say this also another very mysterious visitor to Bimini Island, no other than Martin Luther King.
This blew my mind.
Who gave a speech in Bimini in 1964.
It seems like an obscure place for Martin Luther King, who had such a demanding schedule everywhere from Alabama to Philadelphia.
Well, and you'd think he'd want to go to places where racial tensions were high.
I mean, what was.
Why would Bimini be worth his time?
It is.
I mean, Bimini is fascinating, but why was he there?
This is a great question.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
Richard Warner wanted to say, Olivia, it was in Gordon Cooper's book, Leap of Faith, during Gemini 5.
Cooper took some film of the Nevada desert, not knowing until 1997 that it was Area 51 test site.
It was not known in 1965.
Ah, very, very interesting.
Good.
Yeah.
And his book, The Leap of Faith book, is really fascinating.
And Cooper is a great person for us to be remembering on the 50th anniversary of the Moonshot.
And I think it's important to understand that even though Cooper didn't end up being one of the moon astronauts of Apollo, he was a major factor in, he was like the most celebrated astronaut and previous to them going to the moon.
And he played a major role in getting the Apollo program off the ground.
Yes.
Shamaness Anankara says, Was Martin Luther King tuned into the mystery schools?
In a way, I think I would call him an initiate, would you?
Well, think about it.
His idol was Gandhi.
And Gandhi was a mentor by the Theosophical Society.
It was Annie Besant who gave him the name Mahatma and who set him on this course for free India.
So there's no question he understood the deeper aspects.
I don't know what mystery school or tradition he would have been familiar with, but the kind of remarkable changes that he caused.
If you think of the group of the Kennedys, Robert Kennedy, Jack Kennedy, And Martin Luther King and the changes they wrought in civilization and the response of the ruling powers to assassinate them all is basically a war that takes place there in that period.
And that's to kind of move the civilization in a totally different direction.
So I think we're getting a little piece of that Amelius Belial war again.
It's like, come right back at you.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
Okay, so I'm reluctant to ask this question because I have to pronounce this that I've never heard it pronounced.
Okay.
So, Nicholas Krupus, please ask DJ if Chicxulub Crater could be a hoax and potentially be Atlantis that's in the Yucatan.
And Tricky Vicky said, Do you have a problem reconciling the Bimini Road is 20 feet deep, but the ruins off Cuba are 2,000 feet deep?
Could they be much more ancient or crust collapsed with the Chicxulub meteor?
Oh, wow, those are great questions.
Well, I think what's telling is Zalitsky when she says that she traced a mountain range.
From the western tip of Cuba to the Yucatan Peninsula.
And if we think of what Casey said about Bimini, that it was the top of what was once the greatest continent ever.
So that's the mountaintop.
And the rest of the mountain range goes off to Yucatan.
So we know that was all there and all land at some point.
I don't think there's any question about it.
Now, Yucatan is where Casey said all of the major followers in that region fled to.
Remember, we have them going to Egypt.
We have them, in the case of work, going to the Pyrenees.
We have them going to the Yucatan.
These are the major dispersal patterns and to South America to start the Incan situation and civilization.
So, that group that fled to South America was a group called Og, and they set up the Incan civilization.
But it was the Poseidon group that set up the Yucatan.
And the Yucatan was very closely in the image originally of that civilization of Atlantis, as was the group that developed Egypt.
I think we get a real good snapshot if we think of that very early portion of Rata's Egypt and Iltar's Yucatan, if you're going by the Casey ratings.
But yeah, absolutely fascinating.
Yes.
All right, how many more questions do we have?
Take one more.
Okay, well, this is the juiciest one.
Okay, Cameron Freeman again.
Yes.
Do you think the Hall of Records has been discovered as Casey predicted, but has been kept a secret?
Well, I think it's interesting.
One thing I always found fascinating is that when Casey was discovering or discussing who was going to be doing the discovering, he mentioned that one of them would be British.
So that's quite fascinating to me.
And I always thought that Graham Hancock would be involved with it as a result.
However, I do feel that.
He also said that there are energies and sentinels set, and only an initiate may understand.
And he used this kind of language.
So, I don't think it's something they can casually get their hands on because the key to opening it, I think, may reside not necessarily in the physical dimension.
But thinking of it just physically, I think they've worked really hard to get their hands on it.
And I think when we look at the people around who controlled the Giza plateau, like Zahi Hwas and people like this, they all had that relationship trying to build information and money out of the Casey Foundation.
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Who were just honestly trying to get to the answers of all this.
So I can understand why somebody would think they already have that.
I think that they certainly are looking for it.
By the way, that is a shot overhead of Autech.
And I think that's an important thing for us to keep in mind.
We are going to do more shows on Autech and how it is the underwater Area 51.
Just very important stuff.
And wow, it's a fascinating ride.
Incredible questions tonight and an incredible.
I have to say.
I don't know how you kept that all straight.
Well, a lot of printouts.
This is the important material when we get into the heart and soul of the timing with the hot zone, because we're definitely in that zone right now.
So it's great to have everyone out there.
I'll do a few shout outs.
I see a cult fan and Esoteric369.
So great to have you with us.
CJ Raymer, just excellent.
Kate was out there.
It's great to see you, Kate.
Um, Gigi, uh, and wow, Jonathan Freeze, it's great to see you too.
Um, Miss Olivia, we are definitely going live next week, but the last question of the night, as usual, goes to well, before we get to that, I wanted to thank some super chatters.
Okay, so Eric Ackerley, Breach123, Deborah J. Bush, Bill Gomez, Scabtree Scabby, John Osborne, Mr. Pritchard, Jessa Lynn, Kimberly T., Nicholas Kurbas, and Lisa Tyler.
Thank you so much.
Wow.
Fantastic.
Really appreciate you getting behind the show.
And, you know, we're rocking and we're rolling, right?
That's what it is.
Liberty Thunder's out there.
Did you make it through?
It can't be easy, my friend.
Fantastic.
And great to see all of you.
I have to say, you know, on and offline, everyone who's been sending in great stuff.
Hey, ModWiz is out there.
I'm waiting to see the ModWiz new video.
He's got to put something new out.
And definitely, I'm thinking maybe something Templar oriented.
That's what I'd like to see.
And we will be back with you next week.
We also have some fascinating interviews coming up with Eleanor Freeland.
We're going to be putting that out.
Very interesting and fascinating work that she did.
And so, the last question of the evening, Miss Olivia what's for dinner?
I'm just desperately, it's so hot here under the lights.
Yeah, it's hot.
I'm desperate for the lemonade.
That's right.
I'm going to run to the fridge when the show's over.
I have to say, it was something like 95 degrees here today.
So, the studio does not.
It does not cool off very well.
But that sounds like a really good idea, actually.
And we will see you all next week.
Have a fantastic weekend.
And let's all remember this very interesting period of time, 50 years out when the moon landing happened.
It was quite remarkable.
The big question, of course, is how they shut that program off for 50 years.
And, you know, there was a lot of political chicanery on the same day as the moon landing, including the Chappaquiddick.
Incident that basically took Ted Kennedy out of the running for president after his brothers had been assassinated.
So, it's a remarkable piece of history, but it is our history, and it's a remarkable program and something for us to think back on all the things that happened that got us to the moon program.
If you think of the incredible mystery of the moon, the mythology of the moon, and then this idea of actually physically going there, we're definitely moving and shaking along with it.
And the cosmos are very important, and I think that we're in a period where we're going to be learning things that would just astound.
Even our most recent ancestors.
So it's an exciting period, and we couldn't do it without you.
So thanks so much, and we'll see you next week.
Thanks, everybody.
Outrageously good tonight, Olivia.
Much obliged for your fantastic round of applause for Olivia.
Oh, you deserve the applause.
That's hard work.
Not at all.
Not at all.
This one's for you, Liberty Thunder.
I think there has to be like a sort of a tequila ending to the.
To the entire X series.
I don't know.
I don't think I was drinking.
I just know.
Yes, there we go.
Clap.
Najat Madri, you made it.
Nicely done.
We'll see you next week.
Wow, it's hot.
Sammy.
Sammy Hagar.
Hey, he's a contactee.
That's true.
You could reach out to him.
Unbelievable.
I think I ended the broadcast, but apparently not.