Gigi Young and Daniel Liszt dissect Rudolf Steiner's planetary seals, revealing a hidden language of sound geometry that counters Ahriman's calcifying influence. They critique the New Age industry for spiritual consumerism while exploring how ancient mystery schools concealed esoteric truths regarding Mercury and Venus to protect sacred knowledge during dark ages. The discussion highlights the dangers of the "eighth sphere," where souls reincarnate without growth due to technological overstimulation, and warns against intellectual mimicry replacing genuine soul integration. Ultimately, the episode urges listeners to ground themselves in nature and art to resist dark forces collaborating on a cosmic day cycle, emphasizing sovereign spirituality over deceptive psychic practices. [Automatically generated summary]
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Welcome to Episode 5000:01:47
And we are live.
This is Dark Journalist.
What a fantastic crowd we have tonight already with the special episode 50 here.
And what's great about tonight is oddly enough, two things happened, which is quite a synchronicity.
One, which is that it's episode 50, and two, that it's exactly one year since we started the show for the X series.
Of course, the Dark Journalist show has been around a lot longer, but this is 50 episodes and the one year anniversary.
So welcome and thank you so much for being here.
And we have a very special guest.
With the amazing Gigi Young.
Yay!
Hello!
Gigi, it's great to have you back.
Thank you for having me and congratulations on your 50th episode.
That's incredible.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, it's fascinating because we were just talking about how it's completely flown by and it just seems like, you know, there were points at which we were really hitting hard with the episodes and doing them back to back.
But still, to get to 50 episodes in that first year is quite remarkable.
I would still say, in relation to the ex steganography work that we do here on this show, as it turns out, we probably only got to about maybe 20% of the ex steganography info.
And this is just the nature of the unfurling beasts, as it were.
Tonight, we're going to do something very special.
Of course, it's always great when we have Gigi on the show.
And we've had some really incredible episodes, Gigi, with you.
And thank you so much for your contributions to everything we do for the show.
Awesome.
It's my pleasure.
I love also how the X series somehow predicts the news, and whatever happens in the X series will start popping up in the news.
So that's really interesting as well.
Yeah, absolutely.
Rudolf Steiner's Esoteric Seals00:04:06
Well, it's fascinating.
We have Richard Branson in the hot zone, you know, digging in this big blue sinkhole under there, and all of a sudden he's not interested in space anymore.
There is this kind of very unusual thing, but I find that with you and the work that you put across on the show, which is it is very predictive by nature.
So we're definitely plugging into something as we go.
Yeah, definitely.
It's very organic.
Yes.
We're going to go deep in episode 50 into Steiner's Planetary Seals, which is quite an anthroposophical mystery.
Of course, Rudolf Steiner, the leader of spiritual science and the Anthroposophical Society, also a major contributing member to the Theosophical Society, and the understudy for a long time to Miss Annie Besant, who was the heir apparent and who ran Theosophy after Madame Blavatsky died.
Now, all those years that Steiner spent with Besant and with the Theosophical Society no doubt set him up for the incredible dynamic mystery school work that he did with the Anthroposophical Society.
And we see his influence rolled out through Waldorf schools, biodynamic farming.
The incredible things that this man accomplished in so many different fields let you know immediately that we're not dealing with an ordinary individual, but he was very grounded in many ways.
A lot of the work of Rudolf Steiner continues.
I would say he's far more known in Europe than he is here in America, which is something that we Americans need to catch on to, which is the incredible legacy that he's left behind since his death in 1925.
Now, there are so many different areas and ways you can approach Steiner, and we've done quite a few shows on him here.
One of the things I want to do tonight is we're really going to take a look at some very, very unusual secrets that he let out during.
This period of time when World War I was in full thrust, and he had said to himself, You know, the journey of anthroposophy and the mission of theosophy have been thwarted by this, and maybe a lot of the secrecy inside the societies themselves has been unnecessary.
Let's let it all out and let's see what we can accomplish together.
So, tonight we're going to go deep into those esoteric mysteries, including a major mystery school tenet about.
The switch between two different planets, which is a very powerful piece of information, and it's one of the great reasons why Gigi's here because there are some mysteries that go beyond the printed word.
Gigi's gonna have been looking into this for us.
The first thing I want to start out with, Gigi, is when you look at these planetary seals, and I should say, Olivia, if you have that link, um, of course, I want to say hello to the lovely Olivia.
Hi, everybody, she's taking your questions, of course, and in the second half of the program, uh, we'll be taking.
Your questions, so ask them all in caps, and she's putting that together.
But the link that we have for you to follow along with us when we talk about the seals is darkjournalist.com forward slash planet dot php.
Darkjournalist.com forward slash planet dot php.
That will get you into the entire esoteric seals that we're looking at here.
Just a quick look.
Offhand, at what they are and what we'll be doing with them, and what Steiner was trying to leave behind and communicate about them.
We have some things on the record, and then we have some things that are kind of surmised about them, but they are a great mystery and they relate to these seven stages of human evolution and how the planets relate to that.
And you'll notice some planets are truly emphasized and others are left out altogether.
And what's that all about?
Gigi, you've been spending a little bit of time.
Hieroglyphic Language of Atlanteans00:04:04
Working with these anthroposophical symbols, what was your first impression when you were looking at them?
Well, the first time we ran into them was around the hot zone, the first kind of time that they came into my focus.
But my first impression actually was that they looked like semantics.
That was actually my first impression, which is when you take some kind of like viscous liquid and you put it on a speaker or you put a sound wave through it and it takes a geometric pattern.
That was my first impression, and we all know, or maybe many people know, that sound is one of the primary vehicles of the universe, how it expresses itself.
And so you start looking at the seals, and you can see how that kind of looks like a semantic symbol.
And our consciousness is actually geared to interpret these symbols.
We don't realize it because we're sort of asleep a lot of the time, but I think if we meditated on the seals, I think we would be able to not only tap into things, but also arrange our consciousness in a certain type of way.
Really interesting.
In the Theosophical Society, Ledbetter and Besant have an entire book of thought forms where they go into these sand symbols and they are achieved by violin or guitar strings and they do the same exact thing that you're talking about.
And this is a practice that's gone on for a long time, as if in the tones themselves, the geometric shapes are there and speak back.
There's like a language going on there and it's a design language.
It is, and it kind of in my mind how it shows up is that symbols like this are sort of sound geometry is sort of like one above a hieroglyph or glyph languages.
These are languages you see on UFOs or crafts or even in Egypt or in the Mayan civilizations.
You see these glyphs.
And I think that the glyphs are actually almost one step down from the semantic language.
And I think that in a way, it also represents consciousness or the type of thinking that one does.
And the written words that we do and the letters that we do is sort of a lot more dense and basic than the semantic language or even the hieroglyphic language.
The hieroglyphic language or glyphs are kind of like in between.
Where we are, and I think where a seal would be.
Well, it's interesting.
There is a tradition in the mystery schools that when you're communicating in symbols like dreams do, you're speaking in a higher language.
And when you get down to the printed word, that's a different faculty.
You know, it's an intellectual faculty, it comes in very handy on planet Earth, but it does kind of block you out from different sides of thinking, different parts of your brain.
It does, it really does.
And that's why some people who speak, who are lucky enough to speak different languages like French and English and Spanish, I think, like Miss Olivia does, there are just some words that feel better said in other languages because once you kind of take a language into that spoken word, you do end up removing part of it to refine it.
And so these symbolic languages and archetypal languages have the whole form that you can still use.
And it is the high, even as a psychic, the first thing you do in psychic training is you learn the collective lexicon or archetypal language or symbology, and then you have to learn your own.
Symbolic language, and it's all about symbolic languages.
Your personal one that involves the smells from your childhood or what colors mean to you, things like that, and then the collective Jungian style one.
So it is our highest form of language.
It's a symbolic kind of impressions that we get.
Interesting.
It's in anthroposophy, they talk about an early picture language that the Atlanteans had, and this is what this reminds me of.
That's interesting to incorporate the senses and the smells and things like that.
Symbolic Impressions and Smells00:02:36
That's fascinating.
Because that's based on early impressions and associations.
Oh, yeah.
It's all resonant.
So you get a hit, and then it's almost like it hits you like a.
I mean, psychically, it almost like it resonates with you, and then it'll pull forward all of the other associations.
And some people are incredible psychic smellers.
They can smell illness.
They can smell specific illnesses.
They can smell death.
They can smell life.
They can tell by flowers.
What's going to happen?
It's crazy.
I mean, there's a lot to do with smell and taste, even though they're secondary senses.
Wow.
Isn't there a thing about Yogananda, Olivia, where there was that yogi that could conjure up a perfume?
There was a swami, the perfume swami.
Yes.
Yeah.
He could conjure any fragrance.
Fascinating.
Wow.
That's an amazing story.
Well, I'm reminded, and so many witnesses have said this, that it's not one of those wild stories, but it is a pretty wild story anyway, that Madame Blavatsky could manifest things like bananas.
She could just, you know, she could use this quality to manifest matter.
What's going on there?
What level do you have to be on to do that?
Well, I know that they call it a porting or a porting.
And I found out about that in the skull experiments when they were locking themselves in a room of all sensory experiences and things would just abort.
That actually happened when we were talking about this.
Yes.
And a little, we were doing, preparing for the show, and a little ball, I actually was going to bring it.
It's in the closet, actually.
But a little ball, like that big, just appeared.
Like, I just heard it bouncing on my desk.
It was absolutely fascinating.
You were so blown away when this happened.
And it was such a weird vibe, and the work we were doing at that point.
And when that happened, it was just like right out of the blue.
And I was like, this is bizarre.
Like, out of nowhere, I mean, you wouldn't believe me if you hadn't experienced it yourself, but like, I mean, sometimes things just disappear.
I don't know where that disappeared from.
Somewhere, someone is really upset about losing a tiny ball bearing, but yeah, what's weird is that I heard it.
Yeah, you heard it.
Spiritual Materialism Onslaught00:07:37
Okay, good.
I was glad because after I got off the phone, I was like, I was like, that was maybe a little, I probably sounded a little crazy there.
Very unusual.
And I find this quality interesting because, you know, very often they said about people like Blavatsky or Steiner that they could hypnotize the person into believing this.
Because whenever you are an adept and you go through those schools, you develop this incredible power of hypnosis, even crowd hypnosis.
But over and over again, Steiner reiterated that you don't just pull out hypnosis, you know, when you're part of a mystery school person.
That's not something that you're actually allowed to do.
So, what about that?
And, you know, that kind of parlor trick of creating things out of the blue is quite remarkable.
And so, my feeling is when we get teachers along this level, what they're trying to do is teach the people who are there because this isn't a crowd happening or whatever.
Most often it's done in quiet quarters, you know, just to kind of get the student up to the next level.
Like, did you see that?
But this is quite remarkable.
And this is the level of things and where we're talking tonight.
You know, it's the kind of thing that I tipped you off when we started that we're going to be using your.
Esoteric kind of language that you're so famous for in your own videos.
And because this is the episode for it, there's no question about it.
This is it.
Hang on to your hat.
It'll be weird.
We do have this kind of coming around to the 50th episode.
I just want to reiterate a couple of things about the X. One is that the Theosophical Society used the X ceremonies and that they Incorporated the X into their very logo, as we've demonstrated on the program.
And that the X steganography is not sort of, you know, just some open ended mystery, that it is a legacy carried down ever since the Egyptian mystery schools relating to an event that took place in prehistory about this enormous catastrophe and the reasons behind it and the kind of psycho, spiritual, and physical challenges as a result.
And the X was this kind of breakthrough symbol that was brought.
Through and carried through under duress for centuries and centuries.
It's quite a legacy passed down to us.
There's a picture of Annie Besant and Colonel Alcott here.
This is one of the ex ceremonies in India.
And there's so many of these, and people have seen me show them over the course of the 50 episodes.
But just to get us in that headspace that they're transmitting something down and they are reiterating the quality of this symbol, and it's relating to.
Mystery school knowledge and how it's been vouchsafed for future generations.
One of the key players in the setup of Steiner's work and in Besant's work is Helena Blavatsky, we were just talking about there.
And just to reiterate on her story, I mean, she went into these brotherhoods and she went into the mystery schools and came out the other side.
And she was this incredible compromise figure, according to Steiner, where the mystery schools were trying to let certain truths out because we were facing this wall.
This kind of avalanche of spiritual materialism coming down in 1840, and the scientific materialism was dominant.
They were looking out ahead, certain groups inside of those mystery schools, and saying that by the time a century rolls out, we won't recognize humanity, we have to let some of these truths out, messy or not.
And that's where all these waves of spiritualism came from, that's where the seances came from.
You recently did a fascinating video on the Ouija and the history of the Ouija board.
And this is the nature of where that came from.
And at a certain point, these groups, which were kind of almost at war with each other over letting this information out, or at least there were incredible disagreements, decided that the figure who would be kind of the compromise in all this was Blavatsky.
And she would come out with the Theosophical Society and introduce things like reincarnation, and she would introduce concepts along the psychic line and really kind of reinforce this mystery school teaching so that.
Along with the onslaught of scientific materialism, we would also have side by side with it this spiritual outlet of the mystery schools releasing this inner tradition.
Now, there were problems with that because Blavatsky was a very impetuous individual, and also people, there were a number of other groups that try to thwart theosophy.
So it's never a perfect situation when you're dealing with humanity.
But nonetheless, this is where the legacy came through.
And when she came through with Isis Unveiled in the Secret Doctrine, Everybody's mind was blown.
This stuff had never been let out before.
And by the time Annie Besant takes over around 1890, she has to kind of pick up the torch and carry this through.
And one of the things she does is she concentrates on Europe.
And in Germany, she has in 1901 a scholar there who has written a book about Goethe, and his name is Rudolf Steiner.
And she decides he should be in charge of the German chapters.
He's a great speaker.
She has great enthusiasm for him.
And she's the one who kind of installs him on this path.
So it takes another decade for him to found Anthroposophy when he breaks away from Theosophy.
But just to give you some flavor of the background of where Steiner's information is coming from, it's coming out of that mystery school, deciding we have to let this out against this onslaught of spiritual materialism.
Yeah.
And that's sort of, well, not sort of, that is what we're facing now.
Yes.
You know, the almost like I think it's like the ending of that cycle.
I think we're coming into more of a spiritual age, but that's exactly what's also happening now.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, we're in the transhumanism aspect.
Seems to me, it has always seemed to me, that Steiner was a century ahead in what he was talking about.
Theosophy, too.
And theosophy kind of takes it the way that you do, which is they're a little more optimistic in a weird way.
They're like, well, we're going into the next root race, those people will be more psychic.
You know, the society is going to recognize these truths, the world teacher is going to come.
They have a pretty enthusiastic setup there.
Steiner's is also enthusiastic in the large picture and optimistic, but he says Aramon is sneaking in through the back door through the technology, and he will control the evolutionary wave and set it off path into something we've done a number of episodes on, which is the eighth sphere.
And when you and I talk about things like virtual reality and this kind of incredible technological control and things like 5G coming on the scene, it really, we get that impression that it's Steiner's, you know, it's that little echo of Steiner and Aramon.
Yeah, I mean, they were laying the seeds for the conversations now.
And I think that's why they were struggling to put out so much, even though we don't have all of Steiner's material translated, even, right?
Sovereign Spirituality Mimics00:15:49
Yes.
Like a huge amount is still German, right?
Absolutely.
So, but I mean, so we stand on the shoulders of giants there for sure.
But we are in a harmonic phase, a dark phase that it's good that Steiner pointed out because I do think that Blavatsky was trying to kind of.
Was a bit optimistic or trying to just paint a picture, I think.
But I think that where we are is actually really parallel to where Atlantis was when it fell.
I think that's the easiest comparison we're facing that boss at the end of the video game or that force, or in context of the seals, we're really facing a seal.
Because a seal is not just like a picture on a piece of paper, it's a condition.
It's an atmosphere.
It's a place inside of us.
It's a place in the cosmos.
And it's something that we have to move through.
And the seals are directly related to consciousness and they're directly related to technology.
So, and the kind of technologies we have and our relationship with technology.
So, that's what Armin's all about.
He's kind of like the boss at the end of the video game.
And that's what Starner was warning about.
He was saying that there's a battle coming.
And in order to get to the next seal, I don't think he used seals in that context.
I won't place him in using seals in that context, but that's how I see the seals.
Oh, absolutely.
They are quite fascinating for a variety of reasons.
And I point everyone to that page again, which is darkjournalist.com forward slash planet dot php, just to look at them and get some impression of what it is they're talking about.
And I want to emphasize this the original.
Alchemical planets of the week, where we get our Sunday, Monday, Tuesday setup.
This is the way that it was set up in those times coming in.
And this is where we get our original kind of seven weekly days and where that whole tradition comes from.
And we've got the sun, we've got the moon, we've got Mars, we have Mercury and Jupiter, Venus and Saturn.
There's some very unusual planets missing there, Gigi, Uranus and Neptune, for example.
Now, it's true that in the tradition of when they were discovered, you've got them discovered in 1845 for Uranus.
And I actually got the date here.
So we understand that we're talking about two different things, oddly enough, because according to Steiner, they were very aware of all the planets back in the Chaldean times, and that the mystery schools have held this information, and that it's mankind, humanity, going through this process, forgetting everything, and then Reacquiring the knowledge over a long period of time after they caused this major destruction in the past.
Some of the planets, as we know, we're going to get to the section where one of the major anthroposophical secrets is that Mercury and Venus got switched.
And that by the time you get to Copernicus, that mystery school switch takes place.
Something has happened where they want to throw people off the trail of what those two planets are.
You have come up with a lot of information related to Atlantis and Venus.
And even when we were doing this thing about the three hairs and all that symbology, it was Venus and Venus coming up over and over again.
Can you touch base on that a little bit?
Yeah.
So, just in my own experience and my own memories of Atlantis and pre Atlantis in that time period, Venus was coming up as an influencing sphere in which people would incarnate from in order to create, help create, and contribute to the consciousness of the planet.
And that was around, I'm actually not certain of the time period of that because whenever I see it, I just see, I can feel the energy, but I don't feel the time for that yet.
So I'm not exactly sure when it was.
But I know.
It's a period like 12,000 BC.
I mean, it's somewhere in that.
Yeah, like it's the energy of the planet's very different.
You know, I mean, when I was looking at my blood, I actually saw my blood because they were actually being hunted.
You know, the hunt of Venus was a very real thing.
It's not just the dogs chasing the rabbit around the sky.
I mean, whenever a new race is introduced, there's fears that are brought up within the planet about who are these beings, you know, or who are these.
And they come, you know, and I saw it coming from the center of the earth.
That's just how it showed me.
And there's a difference between a race that is coming up from the center of the earth that has done the work and is contributing and an interdimensional being that is coming from a portal.
From the sky, you know, interdimensionals are not all the same, you know, they're not all coming from the same place with the same agendas.
So, this was a different thing where there was a sphere and it was the Venus sphere that was coming and it was contributing to the planet, and that's what I saw, um, there.
And there is a Venus seal, actually, so yes, absolutely.
And it's so interesting because I've gone deep, deep, uh, since we've talked, you know, we talked, I think, last August initially about Venus.
It was definitely last summer.
And because you brought this into focus, I've spent a lot of time with Steiner's work and everything he had to say about this.
And if you go back into his readings about Atlantean times, what do you think he's talking about?
Venus men and Venus women.
Okay.
So, yeah, I didn't know that.
For me, it was all when it came to cosmic stuff, for me, it was all the outer stars.
It was all the Pleiades, Sirius, Arcturus.
That's all I really considered.
I never considered the planets in the solar system.
To be significant.
That was just something that wasn't out there in the New Age.
It's in the Steiner teachings and it's in the Mystery School teachings, but it's something that even the Starseed movement has skipped over for some reason.
We're projecting really far into the stabilizing stars, which are important.
The Pleiades is important, Orion is important, but what about Venus?
What about Mars?
What about the spheres that are the closest to us?
Absolutely.
And it's interesting because another thing that Steiner would say, which is we have this massive physical understanding of like Mars or massive physical understanding of Jupiter.
And remember, he says the outcome of all this for Earth is to become the new Jupiter.
And that's where the evolutionary track is going.
And this is what Ahriman is trying to create the eighth sphere to get us off that track.
This is where all of this battle is taking place.
And I have to say that my own conclusion after looking at the Steiner work and his 40 years of output is that for 40 years he was trying to say look, you have this lower astral force called Ahriman that is deeply connected with the evolution of the Earth.
It has too much power and it's moving in and it's diverting the process of evolution.
And you need the awareness around Aramon to be created.
So that's the best way to stop it.
But we have to kind of get on the road to waking up to it because if Aramon incarnates physically while humanity is unaware of him or is kind of in this drowsy state from being deep, deep, deeply steeped in scientific materialism, then that's the most dangerous position for humanity because then the eighth sphere will really.
Be in full swing.
So it's quite remarkable to think of Steiner because there are so many different ways to look at him.
He's prolific, he's done all these different things relating to Eurythmy and the Waldorf schools, et cetera.
But really, the thrust of his basic output is that Arman is this overpowering challenge that humanity has to meet and overcome.
Yes, it does.
And I think Arman is also, you know, The devil, the biblical kind of devil, yes, like lower astral king, that sort of dominating, like if the whole planet had its shadow combined, that would be Armon.
And yeah, uh, that's an excellent point, actually.
He is a shadow being.
And one of the videos that I saw, um, a while ago now that you did, which was so interesting, was about false light.
And I was thinking, you know, you were tripping into the eighth sphere idea even before we were doing our shows on it.
Oh, yeah.
The false light is something else.
The false light is really dangerous because one of the things about the false light that makes it really dangerous, or the eighth sphere, the false light, lower astral, these are all different words for the same thing, pretty much.
The really scary thing about the false light, and a lot of new age people don't want to talk about it because it's uncomfortable and spirituality is a vacation.
Well, it is not.
It is serious.
Right.
Yeah, absolutely.
It is a scholarly approach, it's a scholarly study.
And the thing that's so scary is that they use mimicry.
And they actually mimic the structure of light.
They mimic the structure of heaven.
They mimic the structure of good.
And they can kind of convince you that something is very good when it's not.
And so it's very hypnotic and it's very deceptive.
And unless you have the ability to discern, which comes from the heart, the heart is the unification of the mind and the emotions.
It's not a Hallmark card, it is a position.
Of your energy.
And when that's in place, you can discern energy and you can tell when something is incoherent and when it's harmonic or lower astral or distorted.
But if that's not activated, if you're not awake, then you could easily assume that something that seems good, like we see in the New Age with people like Corey Goode and David Wilcock and people like this, you know, you think that's a good thing, but in reality, that could be leading somewhere very not good.
Oh, absolutely.
And it's very interesting.
In the last week, we had Linda Moulton Howe.
We were talking about this last night, calling out those guys for David Wilcock for plagiarizing her material while she was at Conscious Life Expo.
Mimicry, mimicry, mimicry, plagiarism, stealing.
It's illusion, and there's no creativity either.
This is the interesting thing.
People who are locked in, and a lot of the time, they're not even really themselves anymore.
They're like a shell that's like kind of possessed actually by a lower energy.
They're shadow, they're possessed by their shadow.
And when you're there, you have no originality anymore.
Genius is above that level.
And so.
You have to take information from other people.
You have to steal other people's work and say it's your own.
You have to peruse forums and steal that because you can't.
That's the hallmark, too plagiarism and copying.
Wow, that is fascinating.
We've seen a heck of a lot of that, too, in relation to this.
I like what you're getting at here, though, which is it's basically a kind of spiritual consumerism.
They're turning it into a too simple spirituality.
And it's like here, you know, you kind of use it on a consumer level the way that you, you know, would buy a product.
And that's not really what spiritual teaching is all about.
You have a sovereign spirituality course that you teach.
And that's a totally different kind of approach.
Yeah, sovereign spirituality is very different.
And it means that you rely on your own perspective.
You're led by your inner child, by a sense of wonder.
You're anchored in your heart, and you're taking in all of the information.
And you're making your own decisions about what you think, and all external information that you take in is just to validate what you've received.
So you're using your intuition, you're growing your perspective, and you'd only look to somebody else's information to sort of know where you are within your own path.
And that's really what autonomous spirituality is or sovereign spirituality.
And we're kind of healing, we're really, really healing.
There's a lot of wounds in religion and the new age from.
Guru culture and a time on the planet where it was such that there were avatars and people who would have to hold the spiritual energy for everybody, kind of like that Eastern mysticism that was a reality, but we're moving away from that and we have to heal a lot of wounds around cults.
It's really, really, really important to talk about it and to be really discerning about who we follow and really prioritize our own opinions and our own intuition.
It's better to be kind of tough about it right up front as opposed to being like, oh, I'm not going to be negative.
I'll get pulled into this and just see what happens.
It's not really like apathy, isn't it?
We have to be of a totally different mindset.
And it's interesting because we've discussed this before where you have these intel forces on one side who love playing with the agenda to keep people off balance.
And that comes in through the mainstream media and all the rest.
And then you have on the independent, the alternative media side, you also have these marketing forces.
That creep in and just love to make a profit and harvest those people and their aspirations and their dreams, do that and then move off and assume new identities.
And that road down the middle is becoming thinner and thinner all the time.
It is.
And the reason, yeah, exactly.
We have to speak out about it because of that thinning road.
And what I see happening is people come in with such high expectations and such beautiful minds that want to learn and they want to grow.
And then what happens is they have a miserable experience because they find out that they've been duped out of money.
Or they've been tricked into a belief system that's not really very correct and did not come from good intentions.
And then they throw the baby out with the bathwater.
And they say, well, spirituality is crap and the new age is crap and woo woo.
And when they do that, they push away their own soul and their own spirit.
And we all need our spirit to survive.
So that's why it's so dangerous to really get in that position.
Gigi, I want to address this with you while we're talking about it because it might be a little off topic, but it's so timely.
Which is, I'm engaged with people all the time who want to correct.
The scene from all the kind of fraudsters and marketeers that have crowded into it.
And when I talk to them, I find that there are people around them, there's that whole throw out the baby with the bathwater thing.
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So they'll say things like, oh, the secret space program, what a fraud that was.
It's not the secret space program that's a fraud.
That's very important research.
It's the jokers who claim to be galactic ambassadors on top getting into that and pretending that they were some kind of special people having.
Round tables on Jupiter and things like that.
So, but I find this over and over again.
And then, even when it comes, you know, when I tell them, look, when I do the X series work, I use this kind of information that comes from very technical sources.
But understanding when you incorporate the mystery school initiatives, you have to apply psychic principles.
There's no way around it.
I mean, the Casey information, the Steiner information, Blavatsky's work, you'd be lost in this kind of research without it.
So, how do we come to a place where We can say, yeah, there's a lot of kind of new age chicanery that takes place.
There's a lot of people playing around with this, but we don't need to throw out the topics to throw out the people.
I think it's going to be a lot of personal growth.
I think that it's unavoidable that I actually think that part of it is just an initiation.
When I first came into this, I was duped.
Oh, I was duped.
I was like, oh my God, Ashtar Command?
Holy cow, amazing.
Because, like, there's this weird thing that happens when you discover this kind of stuff, when you realize that we're not the only ones here, when you have a contact experience, when you see a ghost, you go through this really malleable phase where you're questioning everything now.
Your neighbor could be a CIA person or whatever.
You go into this kind of like hypnagogic state where you're questioning everything.
And I think that there are people who will take advantage of people who are in that state, like just waking up.
But I think that part of it, unfortunately, is something that.
We have to go through to learn discernment, and all we can do, everybody listening who's awake, is to just share the content of people who are good.
You know, share the dark journalist program, share other people who you feel like are doing good work, and saturate the market with them.
And just speak up about it.
Don't quietly watch these kind of programs in your living room because a lot of the times the people who are funded by the government have lots of money.
Behind them, and it's very flashy and it's very sexy and it's so funny and quirky andor whatever.
And they make it so interesting.
And so they try to make it very sexy.
And so, just if you know, I would say the best thing is to share the content that is good.
So, no question, there's amazing stuff in the independent media, incredible work.
Catherine Austin Fitz, Farrell, the work that you do.
You know, I can point to amazing sources, Forbidden Knowledge TV.
We have great people working in the space.
And it's actually just a very small contingent that is distorting things supported by larger corporate entities.
It's quite fascinating.
Olivia, I wanted to mention to you in relation to this, with everything that came up about John of God.
And, you know, we talked about the fact that you even saw John of God once.
But that's what it is, isn't it?
Now, a lot of people will be like, oh, yeah, all those healers, they're all the same because this guy took advantage of these people and that he was a fraud to start with and all the rest of it.
But that's not necessarily true.
But you're asking me.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
My interpretation of it, there was something very otherworldly going on there.
Yeah.
When I saw him, and that was looking through his eyes at me.
I've never felt anything like it before or since.
So I consider it a form of possession.
That's what channeling is at that level.
When you separate from your body and you allow beings to come into you, you've got to be damn careful.
So that's my explanation for John of God for right now, rather than being a fraud, is really that he was overtaken by negative entities.
That's my theory.
Gigi, you saw the reports on this, and it's quite a horrible situation.
But again, we have this thing, and I've heard this too in relation to John of God it's like all those healers are all fakes and they're out to make a quick buck, or they all have these things going on.
That's not true.
But when you get a big scandal like that, how do you sort out the mess and say, well, you know, no, these things actually do exist?
There are people who can cure these things, there are these spiritually endowed individuals.
Oh, there are, but they're human, and every psychic is human first.
And if a psychic or a healer ever gives you any impression that they are not human first and that they are something else, then run in the other direction because they are, like Olivia said, they are possessed.
So, you know what?
It's like always know that every spiritual person is a human first, and it doesn't matter.
One day someone could be great, and then the next day they could be struggling with a personal issue, and they could be half as Powerful.
Every day is its own day.
You don't just arrive with spiritual work.
And you can be great.
I see this all the time with psychics too.
They just don't pass their initiations.
And you're constantly being initiated.
Growth is law, expansion is universal law.
So we have to continue as psychics and as healers to make all of our initiations.
And if you miss one, you lose some of your ability and.
Darkness will replace where there should have been light.
And if you do this too much and you start thinking that you're amazing and things like that, that's that shadow, that's that ego.
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And it can come at any point.
That's why humbleness is so important in that work.
Wow, isn't that interesting?
So you might start to even think that you're Edgar Cayce, is what you're saying, basically.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You could.
And it's unfortunate, but I know so many psychics who were so influential to me, like so amazing and so great.
And I never would have dreamed, I never would have dreamed that they.
Would fall off, and sometimes they do.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
I sometimes almost wonder if it isn't intentional when they place certain people out there to kind of ruin a side of things.
You know, I was talking about the secret space program, and I recalled that the secret space program work after Gary McKinnon had come out with his revelations about hacking into NASA and how, you know, Obama had gone over there to talk to Cameron to get him.
I mean, this was not a light.
Somebody's flight of fancy.
They wanted to extradite him to America because he'd hacked in.
And all the things that he saw with the off world officers list and all the rest.
And that attracted people like Catherine Austin Fitz, who would go in and study the money end of it and combine the missing trillions idea and saying, oh, it's a space program.
That's where the money's going out the back door, and they're building privatization in space.
And wouldn't you know it, you know, in the lower Earth orbit, we launched 20,000 satellites in order to control this new 5G.
Well, five years ago, that information would have been very handy to come out.
So you can see that making something funny or making it into, This elaborate kind of runaway spectacle, so that when people see this term around SSP, they'll think instead of thinking of the work of somebody like Fitz, they'll think of some joker pretending to be a galactic ambassador.
It's quite interesting.
It is, and it's unfortunate because there's a lack of conversation around it.
And there needs to be more people talking about it.
So, yeah, it's important to share the people like Kathy Nostin Fitz and all these good researchers that are really good.
Wow, no question about it.
Remarkable stuff.
I'll remind everyone you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
We are here with Gigi Young.
And I want to recommend Gigi's YouTube channel.
Just look for Gigi Young on YouTube and you'll find this amazing, just tapestry of information that she's been putting out over the course of basically about a decade.
Would you say, Gigi?
Is it a decade?
I've been around for a long time.
I've been YouTubing for about a decade.
Yeah, on spiritual topics, ETs.
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New Age, Metaphysics.
That's my bag.
Yep.
Incredible.
What a treat that channel is.
And of course, your site is ggyoung.com.
I do want to mention here that you have a course now, which is your second course that you're offering.
This is new.
Can you just talk about it for a minute?
What is it that you're doing?
Yeah.
So I already have an intuition development course that covers the basics of intuition.
And I recommend everyone learn the fundamentals properly anyway.
But the second course is on protection.
And it focuses on the different sort of dimensions and densities, how we relate to them, and how to make sure that you're in the correct alignment, and all that whole conversation around protection and what it is for a psychic.
That's the next module that I have going on.
Oh, really?
It will be out in a few days.
Excellent.
Oh, it's great timing.
One thing that I remember is a great video that you made, which was called Psychic Red Flags, which is something that people don't talk about very much either.
But that was really good because it gave you the idea.
What to look for when you're looking at psychic material and psychic individuals?
Here are some red flags.
That's pretty handy.
It is.
And it's so heartbreaking.
I mean, you hear these stories because nobody ever wants to say, I mean, we're getting better, but nobody really wants to say that they're using a psychic, even though everybody used them.
I mean, in my practice, I worked with Fortune 500 companies and people that you wouldn't even think.
So everybody uses them.
Nobody talks about it.
So because nobody talks about it, nobody talks about what is appropriate for a psychic to do.
And inappropriate.
And one thing that you should never do, just to be clear, is never pay a psychic money to remove a curse.
To remove a curse.
To remove a curse.
Or there's certain things that they'll do.
Or saying that, yeah, you have to book like 10 sessions with me to remove a curse or things like that.
There's so many things that I hear that are from, I feel like they're from like Romania 200 years ago.
They still go on.
Listen, you have to get on my removing attachments program.
20 visits, and it's only $500 a visit.
It's cool.
Exactly.
No, don't do that.
By the way, I want to say this in relation to money and spiritual matters and work that's out there.
I've paid good money to find things out in the work that I do.
And I don't mind paying money when there's value involved.
So, you know, once in a while you see this thing and you'll say, like, oh, they're charging money or something.
Isn't that so terrible?
I mean, just about every profession under the sun charges money.
So, no, you should expect people in alternative fields to charge money for things.
And that relates to metaphysical.
The metaphysical industry, as well.
I mean, it's just like anything else, you know, until you're coming up, unless it's a charity.
Otherwise, I think it's all fair game.
That doesn't bother me at all.
As a matter of fact, I go back to the thing that Gurdjieff said, which is that people won't value something if they don't have to pay for it.
And that's kind of dangerous when you think about it, because if they're getting something for free, sometimes there's no effort involved.
So actually paying for it and getting engaged on that level is very important, supporting those things.
And, you know, we went into this thing about different things that we support.
And, you know, with all the stuff coming up about WikiLeaks, you feel better having supported those guys, you know.
So getting behind the things that are important, there's no problem with that.
Yeah, because you build momentum in what you support.
If you like, if you want the world to emerge in spirituality, then support people who are giving that out for sure.
Don't, yeah, because there's a lot of wounds around that.
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But sometimes.
Wounds.
I like the way you put that.
Absolutely.
Now, you know, Gigi, I've neglected to do something, which is I've mentioned someone.
Without showing them.
That's not really fair.
So I want to make it up to Aramon.
Sharp.
Now let's take a look at Aramon here for a minute.
Steiner spent a lot of time meditating to try to figure out how to portray, and he did the sculpture of Aramon.
And he said that while he was doing it, he felt like he was immersed in concrete and that he was getting heavier and heavier, and that he actually had to complete the task before he just became hardened himself.
What is it about this force?
That has that kind of an impact?
What is the slowdown in the metabolic rate of matter that he was feeling when he was carving this?
And what is this force of Aramon and this image of Aramon?
How does that speak to you?
I feel like, you know what, that's exactly what the eighth sphere would do if you're talking about like the mechanics of that density or that dimension, it's not very fast moving compared to the higher dimensions, right?
It's almost like it's like a slowed.
Down, if you spend too long in your shadow, which is what Armin is like the incarnated shadow of the world, if you spend too long in your own shadow and you don't seek balance, your body will actually calcify and your muscles will, you'll kind of get really hard and stiff.
So that happens when we actually come out of balance.
And that's why people do yoga and the yogis have yoga, things like that, because our physical bodies actually will start to solidify if we don't move energy around.
And so we can see it in our physical bodies, right?
But that's just what happens when we tap into our shadow we slow down.
We're not moving at the pace of the cosmos anymore.
We're not moving at the pace of light.
We've slowed down because we're carrying too much.
So we're solidifying what we're carrying.
We're carrying too much.
We're not releasing.
We're not moving forward.
We're behind.
And so we solidify into our wounds.
That's what I think is really going on.
Our thoughts are becoming concretized heavier, more materially obsessed.
Oh, for sure.
More materially obsessed.
Bodies, I think, can get really stiff and hard and kind of calcify.
I mean, our pineal glands everybody talks about how calcified those are and hard those are.
Is that a sign of the harmonic energies on the planet?
Is that calcification of our bodies and of our glands?
You know, that's something is, you know, what energy is not running through there?
It's too heavy, it's too heavy, you know, like right, yeah, he's a heavy dude, you know.
So, at one point, Steiner gives an impression of Armand and he says, basically.
Imagine a gigantic deep freeze.
Yeah.
That's pretty intense.
Let's look at this term Arman for a minute and then go into these planetary seals.
Arman shows up as the twin brother of Ahura Mazda in Persian mythology.
And Ahura Mazda literally means aura that glows.
Ahura.
And His battle with what is essentially his shadow, which is Ahriman, is often portrayed with him inserting a sword into the belly of Ahriman while holding his horn, because Ahriman is portrayed in Persian mythology as kind of chimerical.
We'll take a quick look at this here and see if it'll show up with all these lights going on.
You kind of get the idea.
He's on double duty.
He's not just using one hand to fight him, he has to use both hands to fight him, he has to control him while he's keeping him off by stabbing him.
And still, Aramon keeps coming.
I mean, it looks like a pretty ferocious problem there.
When we look at this, and we're thinking about Steiner using the term Aramon that comes out of Persian mythology as opposed to just saying Satan or something like that, apparently naming this force and identifying it in the anthroposophical literature as Aramon has some significance.
Have you felt anything when you've looked at the name Aramon?
Is there anything there energetically that's different than just people using a term like Satan?
I just saw an orb on your screen.
You see that, Olivia?
No, I actually didn't, but there have been a lot of orbs coming around.
There's an unusual amount of reports of this happening on the show.
Wow.
Yeah, I have actually haven't tuned into Armin to the degree that Steiner has.
But I feel like when I tune in there, what I get is sort of the past, like the embodiment of the past.
You know, it's what we're refusing to let go.
And that's why it's in that beast form.
Is that kind of like the part of us that's the animal form or a past that we're needing to let go, but we're wrestling with the embodiment of that.
You know, that's sort of how I, what I, one of the things that I feel with it.
And I think, isn't the horned being the previous era or previous age anyway?
Yes.
Yeah.
They did have it.
And it has turned out that way.
This idea of a twin.
I think it is also interesting because obviously they're getting at this shadow thing that you were just talking about, which is we're not just talking here about, you know, one separate evil and the evil's over there and gee, that's great, but evil's over there and I'm okay and I'm over here.
In this Persian mythology, he's fighting his twin.
It's like, you know, basically we're twin brothers and we're going at it.
So it's kind of like fighting a part of himself almost.
Oh, yeah, his lower self, I guess.
Interestingly, he's also.
Kind of stabbing the lower chakra system and the upper because maybe Armin has no heart.
Excellent point.
Absolutely.
I love that.
Who has a question about it?
Yeah, it's fascinating.
Even the Atlantean stories talk about everything beginning with twins and things like that.
And I think it does really represent us battling ourselves.
And, you know, the evil really isn't necessarily outside.
It really begins with your own shadow and what you refuse to look at, what you refuse to deal with.
Wow, absolutely.
I'm going to tell everyone to go to the page darkjournalist.com forward slash planet dot php.
And we're going to talk now about a couple of these seals and the significance of the seals.
You spend a lot of time looking at them.
Steiner, whenever he gets to drawing or sculpting, I pay extra close attention because he's such a scholar.
For him to go into this other avenue to express himself, I think is very interesting.
And also, his ability to kind of go into the spiritual world, get that image and bring it back, I think was profound.
So, his image of Venus is this one here, which is on that page.
Anyone could take a look at it.
When I looked at this, I was seeing things that looked kind of like fruit.
I saw fruit too.
It's very much like fruit or a flower.
There's something about seeds, and there's something about this kind of feeling that there's some embryo inside of it.
This is the impression I was getting from the seals.
Now, one of the big secrets that came along, I guess I should show Mercury as well because we're just about to.
Reveal this.
Actually, in between, I'm going to show Jupiter because Jupiter is the one that we're moving into.
And this is the seal, remember, for new Jupiter.
So, this is when Earth merges with Jupiter.
This is the next evolutionary wave for humanity in Steiner's cosmology of spiritual science.
This one, a little bit different, almost like a starburst happening there in the middle.
And we all know these kind of interesting.
Mythology that's going on there with Jupiter, and it's showed up in Greek times and Roman times and Egyptian times.
Obviously, there's some mystery recognition of Jupiter being where we're moving into.
I think it's quite profound.
Let's look at what Steiner had to say about this switch and what happened here, because I think that this is maybe the crux of why the planetary seals are so important.
So, Basically, Copernicus reverses them, and this is kind of like something that the mystery schools are hoping for, and they're kind of in charge of it.
Let's take a look at some of these.
So, what he says here from his lecture series now in 1912 Egyptian Myths and Mysteries Here I come to a point where a little secret, so to say, must be unveiled.
One which may only be divulged at this point.
In truth, if we wish to speak esoterically as the writer of the apocalypse has done, because remember, there are seven seals in the apocalypse, and this is the correspondence that we're getting here, which is the seven seals of the apocalypse of Revelation.
That's the mystery school tie over of the seven planetary seals that Steiner's putting up.
But let's let him speak for himself.
In truth, if we wish to speak esoterically as the writer of the apocalypse has done, We must speak of Mercury as the morning star.
By the morning star, he meant Mercury.
Traditionally, that's understood to be Venus.
I have given the direction towards thine eye to the morning star to Mercury.
You may still find this phrase in certain books of the Middle Ages, which describe the true state of affairs.
That the stars of our planetary system are enumerated thus Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, and then Earth is followed not as it is now by Venus, Mercury, but by the reverse, Mercury and Venus.
And then in the Apocalypse of St. John, which is a series of lectures that he gives, he says, I'd like to add one thing, because misunderstandings have crept into the naming of the planets.
In all occult nomenclature, what astronomers call Venus is called Mercury.
And vice versa.
Astronomers know nothing of the mysteries behind this, because in the past it was not desired that the esoteric names should be revealed.
This happened in order to conceal certain things.
What do you think they were trying to conceal?
Well, I believe that they were trying to conceal an esoteric pathway.
Okay.
That's what I would say.
I would say that's my first impression is that when you start to study esoterica, we realize the spheres move inside of us.
And when you start doing magic and even just with astrology, you start to realize that we are the spheres, right?
And so, when you start switching a sphere around and creating confusion, what you're doing is you're making it difficult for somebody, some groups.
Black magicians?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you listening?
Yeah.
Yeah, they were making it harder for some people to use certain esoteric pathways.
But I feel, especially a pathway that would be instrumental.
In incarnation cycles for souls incarnating and wanting to keep something sacred so the magic would survive into a dark age.
Fascinating.
Wow.
This is really something that I feel Steiner is saying, I can just barely let this out now.
And then later, these lectures were released after World War I hit when he was like, you know, forget it.
We can't keep the stuff separate, let it out.
That's the only reason we have it in the first place.
So, even inside of the public mystery school of anthroposophy, this secret had to be let out.
Let's go a little bit further with this, because I think he's giving us something very important, but he's leaving it out there.
He's not saying, hey, spend your life tracking this down.
He's putting it out there and he's saying, this was reversed, figure it out.
There's no answer direct inside of the Steiner material, but we can still look at his references to see what he's trying to get at here, because I think it's crucial and it's something that's meant like a time capsule to be rediscovered.
Consider the situation that arose within the sanctuaries of knowledge.
One could speak of spiritual beings who surround the cosmic bodies.
Outside, people came to speak more and more in terms of physical matter as a sense perception became increasingly sharper.
When the holy rishis uttered the word mercury, they never actually used this word, but let us use it to make ourselves clear did they mean the physical orb?
In the cosmos?
No.
Not even the ancient Greeks, when speaking of Mercury, implied the physical planet, but rather the totality of spiritual beings inhabiting it.
When the word Mercury was spoken in the sanctuaries of knowledge, it referred to supersensible worlds, to spiritual beings.
When the pupils in these sanctuaries pronounce Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn in their respective languages, They're referring to a sequence of spiritual beings.
Today, these words refer to the coarsest physical substance of the planets, and the most important part is thereby omitted.
So, Gigi, he's giving us this impression that the planets represent this kind of spiritual hierarchy, and that that's what the mystery schools are referring to, and that the switch is somehow referring to that order of things.
Yeah, definitely.
And as you were talking, I was hearing them singing it, using the sound with it too.
And also, I think that to have them switched would conceal physical locations on Earth where these beings are associated with.
Okay.
So, you know, it's also about, it's as above, so below, right?
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So it's also going to be concealing where ceremonies would be held and very significant places as well.
Oh, really interesting.
So, tracking it back.
And it's very interesting practice during this period, also, you know, where a lot of those masters wouldn't give out their actual time of birth because they wouldn't want these other mystery schools to track basically their astrological chart and be able to pinpoint events and things that they were going to do.
This is quite interesting because I've run into this quite a few times.
And what it seems to me.
When I was reading about Steiner discussing Blavatsky, I was like, you know, I guess when she joined the mystery schools, it must have been that, you know, word got around that there was this incredible woman who had joined the mystery schools.
And that's why they came up with this idea of letting her, you know, be this compromise figure to bring out these truths through theosophy.
And then I was reading a series of lectures that Steiner gave on Blavatsky, and he identified the fact that when she was born in 1831, The mystery schools knew it.
They actually knew by the astrological setup of where and when this was happening that this advanced person was coming, entering the earth.
What level of knowledge is that?
That's a very, very broad level of knowledge that would take a lot of technical understanding, but also a lot of psychic understanding.
So, yeah, it is.
And this is, I think, the level of knowledge that we're speaking about because it reminds me very much that.
During a reading that Edgar Cayce gave on the Great Pyramid, when they were saying, Are there predictions contained within the pyramids?
And he said, Oh, there's no question about it.
And they said, Well, how do we read them?
Where are they?
And all the rest of it.
And he described that they were even encased in the type of stone and the angles that they used.
And then it said, When the language is learned to be read, you can actually pinpoint individuals down to the street name and their actual physical address.
That's incredible.
I remember.
There's something else like that in India where they have the naughty leaves and they pull out the naughty leaves, and it's sort of like the pyramid where they wrote this like hundreds of years ago, but it's like your street name and things like that.
It's just incredible.
Yes.
That is a.
Well, we're getting into this idea again that everything is set out there, that there's a number of things when you're on that mystery school level that you can see about the world and where it's going, which is probably why we got to the situation in 1840 when they predicted out 100 years and said, oh, they're not going to recognize humanity.
We have to let these truths out.
But that is a very unusual ability to foreordain events based on almost mathematical setups.
Well, if you.
Technically, if you understand the sphere that you're in, yeah, and then you can read all the other spheres, and then you're trying to divine a personality that would be instrumental during that time, you could do that just by the principle of like binary or balance.
Yes, you could do that if you understood the spheres on the different planes, what would be needed.
Um, so I, yeah, I kind of feel like that that would actually make sense.
Incredible, or out, Miss Olivia.
Let me just throw this out there, yeah.
The Martian archaeologist is asking, Do you think they are using or attempting to use AI algorithms to predict reincarnation using someone's collected data as karmic simulation?
That's a good question.
Wow, that is a great question.
I think I remember you mentioning something that they had like a futuring technology.
I remember you mentioning something about that.
Yeah, absolutely.
It is interesting.
This idea of the eighth sphere also.
Which is that when you reincarnate and you go into the eighth sphere, you don't know that it's an unnatural step, but that these individuals would predict themselves reincarnating back in.
And so that they would get caught, you know, one of the big warnings in the Steiner literature is that they'll get caught in the eighth sphere, basically in this artificial situation of not reincarnating in the proper line through the different planetary lives.
And instead, they'll go into the eighth sphere and come right back.
So they get coarser and coarser and coarser and more under the control of Aramon as they go down the line.
That's kind of a central tenet inside of Steiner's work.
And that's what it makes me think of, which is once they start predicting the reincarnations of these people, that's a real high level of control.
But we can see in this reference to Blavatsky being predicted by the mystery schools, they knew it was coming.
Very much, I mean, if you look at the story of Jesus and you think about the three wise men, they knew because of the star that they set out on this journey to find him.
So that's the same type of thing.
I mean, they're reading astrology there.
Yeah, they're reading.
I actually feel like to do that, you'd have to do more than astrology.
You'd have to be actually reading beyond what we know is astrology, like going into even the outer stabilizing spheres and things like that.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I really know that.
It's incredible to think about that, actually.
It is.
That was a great question.
Did you have another one?
He just followed up on it for clarification.
Yeah.
Karma equals habitual tendencies equals collected data in cyberspace.
I think he's making a good case for it that they could do this.
It's a kind of data mining.
Yes.
I think they only have a certain, the thing is about that dimension and the eight spheres, they only have access to a certain level of your information.
And the difference between like the schools of light would be they have technically the whole spectrum.
So they can make much better predictions, especially into the future, much more accurate predictions.
And someone that's only working from like, like in the eighth sphere, working with like this much, you know.
Yeah, right, right.
Absolutely.
They don't have the whole spectrum.
Yeah.
The question is if they could figure out where you'd be and when you'd be reincarnating, what would they do with you?
That's the question.
That's definitely for episode 51.
Let's do this, though.
Interesting to ride off this idea for a minute.
The eighth sphere, we've touched on it.
We've done a few episodes on it, you and I. What.
What do you think in our modern world corresponds?
You know, we're talking about that false light thing, and I can see the threat with the technology, but how are you seeing the eighth sphere manifesting into our reality now?
It seems to be at a higher pitch than it has ever been.
Yeah, well, it is.
It really is.
It does get darker before dawn, and I feel like it's kind of like an addiction to technology.
I think one big symbol is when people start being offended by nature and they don't want to go outside anymore and ground.
Because nature is a huge stabilizer.
Being addicted to technology, being in your head too much, like really being, really thinking about things.
And basically, anytime you're avoiding the heart and you're going too much in your head, thinking too much, anxiety, or you're going too much in your lower emotional center and you're becoming depressed.
So, anytime you're not in your heart and you're going into those other places is really an eighth sphere.
You're destabilized and you're going to be vulnerable to that.
Getting locked in that mental.
Uh, thing it was good when you said that mental part.
I was going to say, Why are you staring at me when you say that?
Everybody does, you know, it is interesting.
Uh, I think that is the big threat.
Okay, walking up the street, right?
We see people, thank god, there's not a Pokemon craze going on where we saw people in the middle of the streets literally dying to get a Pokemon character.
Uh, I guess that's one, but that's one way to have the A sphere take you out.
But, um, we do see them and they're deriving all their joy, uh, all their stress, all their ups and downs.
From interacting with their smartphone.
Now, it's an incredible tool and it's great that it can deliver joy or you can pay for your flight ticket as you're driving around.
But the sheer number of people who are missing their actual life and sucking into this other reality, they're almost kind of in the eighth sphere there when they're walking around because their body is here, but their consciousness has already floated into this thing.
And that's one thing if you have a normal day and you've been out and you've enjoyed all these things, you've interacted with humanity.
And let's say you go lock into a good movie or something like that, you're going into a headspace.
But if you're walking around the whole day and your consciousness is not inside where it should be, basically, then what's the toll on that?
I mean, what are the ramifications of that?
It's what we were saying about everything solidifying.
If we have a mental body, we have an emotional body, spiritual body, physical body, all of those things need equal attention.
Otherwise, we wouldn't have them.
So you have to give these things that everybody is usually good at and bad at.
So, figure out what ones you're bad at.
Like people who are super spiritual and intellectual, or super spiritual and physical, or super physical and emotional.
Figure out what you're missing and make a dedicated plan to activate the other ones because we have these four bodies for a reason.
And when we stop engaging with them, we start to kind of like gather up energy because we're not releasing because we're not engaging.
It's getting swampy.
Right, yeah.
You know, so you need to move.
That's a bit about it, actually.
Absolutely.
Heavy.
That's the harmonic, heavy, solid kind of thing.
It's getting you're too heavy.
You're not activating and removing all the stuff in your body.
Well, that other energy is like when Steiner teaches eurythmy.
When the dancers use it, they feel light as a feather and they're like, we don't know what energy this is that we're drawing on.
It's a special energy that only takes place when we're doing this exercise.
But that's what it is.
When you draw on that energy, it's a totally different kind of experience.
It's probably the opposite where you're actually processing things that you don't realize you're processing.
Because you're releasing channels of energy like acupuncture or whatever, you're releasing energy from your naughties and your energy centers, and you're moving around, and it's all symbolic, and you're totally tapped in to the cosmos.
And it's actually like the opposite of Arm on, right?
Which is to do one activity for a long period of time and don't challenge yourself, don't get out of your comfort zone.
Just basically, you have to kind of kill off a part of yourself, really.
Overstimulation and Intuitive Coaching00:03:47
So, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
And by the same token, he can overstimulate you.
Oh, and that's kind of how I think a lot of people actually tap out is they feel overstimulated.
So it's like, I'm so overstimulated, I just can't exercise today.
I'm so overstimulated, I can't think.
I'm not going to solve this.
And I think actually overstimulation of, especially the mental body and the emotional body, makes us just give up a lot of the times.
That's me.
Yeah, no, it's our world, you know, with the, even our computers, the screens go at such a rapid rate that I think we just become overstimulated just by.
Doing something relaxing on it, you know?
Absolutely.
It's incredible.
And what a state of affairs.
You know, the smartphone was introduced in 2007.
So we're barely 12 years into this program.
And it's, you know, it's hardcore when you think about it because what an incredible difference that decade has made.
You know, it seems like society's gone completely off a schizophrenic edge as a result of it.
Certainly there's been some benefits, but wow, you know, the costs are very high in terms of personal interaction.
And, you know, I have a relative who is just completely locked into that world.
And all he can do actually is communicate basically through his little device.
And it, you know, I mean, it's kind of what's going on?
You know, it's like, come on, at what point do you just say this is ridiculous?
And we're getting to a lot of those places in society.
It's quite remarkable.
I'm going to keep trekking with this switch.
And I want to remind everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
We're talking with Gigi Young here about a number of things, but the Rudolf Steiner Planetary Series sequence is kind of this overriding theme that we're going back to over and over again.
And it's great to have Gigi back here because Gigi now has a new course also that she's launching at ggyoung.com.
And she's gone more into teaching her psychic work.
And now it's interesting, too, because you basically.
Are doing it as kind of like an intuitive coach.
This is how you describe it.
Yeah.
So I help people develop their intuition now, and you can use it like it's not just to be psychic.
I mean, this is helpful for anybody that wants to just learn how to discern energy.
Should I trust this person?
Is this a good direction for me in business?
How to be more peaceful?
This is the part of us that's missing, and this is the part of society that I feel is missing.
And so that's why I want to teach it, is because I feel like it's just what's missing.
I love doing personal sessions, and I hope to do more in the future, but.
You know, we really are missing the spiritual heart of society, which is different than the religious heart.
You know, it's something different.
And I feel you can't legislate it.
You can't make it law.
You can't force it.
But we desperately, desperately need it at the same time.
So that's why I make courses and do all that.
Oh, it's like a great reminder.
You know, it's amazing the people that I've talked to who've taken your courses.
I mean, it's an amazing change that they have in their own lives about the abilities that they learn that they have.
And that's what I think that is so good about the work that you do on your own.
You know, I mean, you've been an amazing.
Ally and friend for the X series and all the material.
But the work that you do in your own psychic coaching, when I talk to people about it, it's really life changing stuff.
So it's incredible.
And the new course that you're doing, that's coming out like next week.
Censorship Against Independent Thought00:05:31
Yeah.
And it's all finished.
I'm just kind of putting it on the website and everything.
So it'll be out in the next couple of days.
And it's just on protection and psychic positioning.
And also, it's changed.
Like psychic work has changed since 2012.
Yeah.
The same old descriptions aren't going to work anymore.
So, right.
Yeah, even the language has changed.
I noticed the language is changing a little bit.
Yeah.
Fascinating.
Everyone, definitely check out that course.
It's a good time also to go to darkjournalist.com, sign up for the newsletter, which is a free newsletter to keep you and I in touch with the incredible shutdowns we've been seeing, the incredible censorship.
Gigi, we haven't had you on the program since this incredible censorship has kicked in and they've thrown off people like Alex Jones, which, regardless of how you feel about him, Should we really be silencing people left and right on Facebook, YouTube, or wherever?
What do you think about all this clampdown that's going on?
Not a good look.
Everybody needs to have the right to speak and everybody needs to have a voice and people shouldn't be silenced.
It's a very, very, very slippery slope.
And whether you like Alex or not, he deserves the right.
It's kind of like I think it's a kind of a systematic shutdown of alternative voices.
No question.
You may not like Alex Jones's delivery.
It may offend you or it may be very dramatic, but a lot of things that he says are true.
And he does have some good information there.
And you just have to discern it, right?
No, absolutely.
I think that specifically when you see them shutting someone like him down, it makes people like us take a closer look.
Yeah.
What are you guys afraid of?
What's going on here?
But we've seen it around issues now.
Look, they'll shut down Alex Jones and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in the same, you know, Stroke basically because they don't care if you're left or right, but if you go against this thing that they're developing, and we've seen with the anti vaccination and the vaccine choice questions come up, as opposed to you know what they want to do is increase vaccines to 70 by the time that you're 18.
I mean, you're going to be walking basically a chemical bank at that point.
So, you know, even if we look at it at the most bare essential level, which is they want to make money, that this is a new program to make more profits for the pharmaceutical companies, which is why the politicians push it.
That's even a fine way to look at it and unravel it.
Even if you don't go the extra step and say, look, they're setting up people to have autism because they want to rule over people who have these conditions so that they won't be able to fight back, or they want to be able to depopulate the country or the world in this case.
You can look at it from a variety of angles, but even at the most bare essential level of saying these guys want to make more money and they're willing to use you as a guinea pig to do it, to have the media just getting on board and pushing around people like RFK Jr., who has the facts.
Shows you that it's not a right-left issue at all.
You know, I mean, he's calling out liberals on this.
You know what?
It starts with people like Alex Jones, who can maybe be offensive, but it'll end with you.
And they'll come to the new age and alternative thought.
A lot of new agers think, well, my YouTube channel is fine, or certain researchers think, well, mine is fine, though.
It's not, because they want to eliminate, there is a push to eliminate independent thought and independence.
So you think that you're excluded, but you might not be.
Excellent point.
Wow, I love it.
And of course, look, You know, we've had a tradition for years of shock jocks and people who say wild things.
You know, at that point, you might as well just throw Howard Stern under the bus and like find guys like Rush Limbaugh and shut them down too.
I mean, at what point do you stop being offended?
It's ridiculous.
And it's apparently a very small group inside of government and inside of that structure that's orchestrating this.
And most of them get together at Davos and figure this out.
So I think that the more this is going to be looked at as a very low point in terms of the censorship.
But you and I are right in the middle of this because this is the work.
This is where we do our work.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
And we have to keep these channels open and free.
And if you don't like it, then don't look.
If you don't like it, don't watch it.
You know, that's very simple.
No question about it.
Excellent points.
And look, everyone, when it comes down to these networks, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, you know, let them know.
You want to see what you want to see.
And if they move in this direction of just The big clampdown, you're just going to take your time and your money somewhere else.
This is what it's going to come down to.
And it might just come down to that when we get down to it.
But my point is definitely sign up for the newsletter.
That's the best way.
If we have our own pipeline, it's going to be a lot easier.
So if they get rid of us someday on social media, we'll still have that huge connection going on.
So make sure you make those types of efforts.
And I think the thing that Gigi was saying earlier about is getting behind the things that are important, getting behind these important channels that are available to us now, supporting them and supporting the work that's going on, you know.
Do it while it's available, basically.
Now, Miss Olivia, how are you doing out there with questions?
I have enough questions for three shows, and I'm on it.
Metallic Rays and Martian Influence00:12:20
Okay, here's what I would like to do I would like to take a little bit of time and go through the Mercury Venus switch through anthroposophy a little bit deeper on the planetary side so that we get that covered, and then we'll roll right into your questions.
It's a great crowd tonight, and we're on episode 50 of the X Steganography series, which tracks the X through history.
And in some cases, you know, we're looking at it in terms of black projects that have moved through government agencies.
But in other cases, we're looking at it from the mystery school perspective, and things get really, really interesting then because you have thousands of years of history to figure out how they've used this.
Now, along this line, we have further information from Steiner about this switch.
This one comes a couple of months after he let the initial one out.
Quote This is another lecture where he mentions this switch that takes place.
Oddly enough, between Venus and Mercury, and how what we refer to as Venus is actually Mercury, and how this switch took place during the time of Copernicus.
Okay.
Quote You must picture the Earth as the starting point, and around it, a sphere of influence reaching up to the Moon.
This is followed by a realm reaching up to Mercury, and then one to Venus, and then one up to the Sun.
Now, you may be astonished at the sequence of the planets as I've given it here.
You might think that if this is the Earth and this is the Sun, that I should draw Mercury in the immediate vicinity of the Sun next, and then Venus.
But that is not correct.
The names of these two planets have been interchanged by a later astronomy.
Quote What is called Mercury today was known in ancient teachings as Venus, and the planet referred to as Venus nowadays was always known as Mercury.
We cannot rightly understand what is said about Venus and Mercury in ancient writings if we assume them to refer to the present planets of these names.
At the time when the world system was turned topsy turvy, Sapothium, that's the impression I get there, when the Earth was robbed of its central position, not only the perspective was completely altered, but the opportunity was taken of interchanging the names Mercury and Venus.
Here we are with this mystery again.
They've switched.
Who was it who switched it?
And topsy turvy, GG.
Very interesting.
When you've tuned into this idea around Venus in relation to Atlantis, you got so much information around it.
What is it about Venus that's coming into play again here when we're getting into the 21st century?
There's some aspect about Venus rising, this whole idea of Atlantis rising.
There's some consciousness shift in relation to this.
Yeah, Venus is, well, how I see it is that it's the heart, and you can see it has a lot of heart energy, and it's a heart.
You can even see, I think, some of the seals, Venus is green.
Yes.
Yeah.
So that's also the ray of that that's associated with it.
And that's what's necessary.
It's kind of like you search far and wide, and then it kind of comes back to a simple truth that we've known all along, which is come into the energy of your heart.
And I think that.
The sphere of Venus has beings, consciousness, and essentially the sphere itself resonates to that frequency.
And so that's what we're looking at there.
I mean, to our consciousness at least, that's what it is.
Wow, it's really interesting.
And just to point out that green there for everyone, this is the color that was associated with Venus.
When I look over at the red color of Mars, You understand in the planetary reflection, you get quite a lot from Mars.
You get a lot of impressions, I've noticed, when we've talked about different planets.
That one really shows up on the radar.
Last night, when I was doing the program on John von Neumann, who had headed up the UFO file, and he was basically the most accomplished mathematician of the 20th century, one thing that came out was that him and Teller and a number of other people were referred to as Martians.
And this was this kind of inside thing.
There was even a book written about it.
And von Neumann had, you know, basically satirically, whatever, outlined this whole thing about how Martians interacted with Earth and they left behind these people who had this impulse.
And, you know, a lot of people just thought it's their inside joke among these scientists.
It's an odd thing, isn't it?
It is, but it isn't.
It is.
It's definitely odd because you look at it and you're like, why are they calling them that?
They're so weird.
Scientists are strange.
But then.
Whenever I've tuned into Mars, I've always seen Mars as having been the previous sphere of influence on our planet or being a past sphere of influence.
And so it's kind of like whatever influence remains is part of it is the unhealed.
And so, what Mars, there's a very strong portal to Mars that is a shadow portal, actually, to be completely honest.
And it represents the karma and the things that Mars could not complete.
It was an unsuccessful cycle on Mars that's connected with Earth.
And so there is a very kind of unhealthy energy actually that comes from there compared to the spheres that Steiner mentioned, which is Venus and Jupiter.
That's going into the progression.
Mars is kind of a bit of a regression or represents the challenging aspect.
Necessarily good or bad, but it is giving us a certain type of contrast here.
And I think that there, because it does become literal at some point, there could actually be races, there could generally, genuinely be races that are from that sphere when it was overlapping that represent that journey and everything there.
And they still could be here today carrying out their.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is fascinating for a couple of reasons.
There's no question that Steiner goes into this kind of language, and people are stuck thinking, does he mean literal Venusians and literal Martians?
And going back into the period of Atlantis and the influx of these people.
And one of the things that I found so fascinating about you when you were talking about this is you were seeing it all in terms of portholes.
That there were souls that were entering from these places and that they were a different type, literally a different type of physical being.
Of course, we have to remember when the mystery schools talk about Atlantis or Lemuria, the type of person that they're talking about is different.
It's a finer matter, it's not so entrenched in matter.
In some cases, in the early part of Atlantis, 200,000 BC, the Casey readings and the Steiner work agree that literally the souls hovered above.
The physical bodies themselves, and that the physical bodies were not dense bone.
They were much looser matter.
So it becomes easier for us to understand this from that perspective of things entering in during that period.
But my question is when we think about that, if we take it for granted that there were groups from Mars and groups from Venus that were entering, why is Mars associated with war?
Well, yeah, they were very warlike.
They had infestations of AI.
The visions that I've had of Mars, and I used to do a lot of readings and I used to see people who had had incarnations on Mars.
So I've seen a lot of that.
And even just in my own visioning and stuff, it was very metallic in feeling.
The first thing you feel often connecting with Mars is a metallic energy in your mouth.
Like it feels very metallic.
And you see that they had been infested with AI and it was something that they didn't beat, it was something that they couldn't.
They didn't fail, they failed that test.
And it also had something to do with the sun and the AI.
I do remember that.
It had something to do with the sun ray and the sun.
I won't go too esoteric, but it was to do with that energy, the combination of that.
It is episode 50.
It is episode 50.
The sun was called Un then.
That was the thing I was like, Oh, that was interesting, yes.
Un.
And then so that whole drama is continued here, but it is a challenge, and that's why they were also very warlike.
They really kind of took that aspect of the masculine to an extreme.
So the communities were all around that.
Expression of war soldiers and kind of the whole thing was deeply, deeply, deeply exploring war.
Do you think the rise of the Nazi party in the 30s and their rise to power and their strange reign, which seemed like it came out of Roman times and just showed up in the 20th century, do you associate them with Mars?
Yeah, actually, Natalie, I've never thought of that, but you know what really reminds me of.
A parallel stream is the fact that they were trying to genetically force people to breed, which is completely Martian, completely forceful.
You know, when you're in a warlike culture, you don't care what people want.
You will do, it's authoritarian.
You will do what we think is best.
The boys will be separated from the families and they'll be soldiers.
The women will be whatever archetypal mess is going on there.
And that's what it is.
And so, absolutely, that would make.
Yeah, that authoritarian seeping into all those kind of more tender things is definitely, yeah.
It's fascinating because it doesn't seem like we've learned the lesson, even with the ripping up of the treaty with Russia and America.
Last week, the US and Russia ripped up their nuclear non proliferation treaty.
And it seems like you're right back in 1988 with Reagan signing it with Gorbachev.
And I'm thinking, are we going into a period here?
Of this decade, I'm sure we have many options and choices, but is the risk for war higher than it's been in a long time?
I've never tuned into that, but there's a lot of saber rattling, and I think that there's been a lot of rustling and a lot of power struggle going on.
There's less power, and so they're forced to really hash it out, and so it's going into that very destructive power struggle.
But I think that through this, though, We're going to start seeing some key players coming out that we didn't know were involved in certain things because it has to do this.
It has to do this phase.
We have to go through this phase, but I think it's going to reveal a lot of things that you're probably a little bit more aware of, but that other people really need to tune into.
That's fascinating.
Atlanteans in Space Without Souls00:03:35
We're here with Gigi Young, everyone.
It's X episode 50.
It's our one year anniversary of the X Steganography show.
Time flies here.
And we're going to go into questions now, Miss Olivia, if you're ready.
One quick thing I want to add as you're getting those questions together is we did start this off by suggesting, you know, where is Uranus and Neptune and all this?
And I went out and found some context for this inside of Steiner's discussion that'll prove very interesting.
But, Miss Olivia, how's it going out there?
Are you ready for a question?
Sure.
We have a great crowd tonight.
I see a lot of familiar faces.
Nish is out there.
It's great to see you.
And also, we have a cult fan, Lee Veltman.
Charlotte is out there.
Excellent.
Okay.
Yeah.
Far away.
Gigi is ready.
Okay.
So, Christopher Dorsey, did Casey and Steiner both believe that the soul spends time on the planets to learn the lessons each planet has to teach us between lifetimes?
Yeah, absolutely.
Casey talks about planetary sojourns, and he literally says that you have a body.
It's just not a physical body like we have here on Earth.
Also, incidentally, Casey said in other systems, there's a parallel for a kind of physical concentration.
For soul incarnation.
So, this idea that there are other off world planets is supported in the Casey literature.
But he didn't say that at present there were physical bodies on these planets in our own solar system.
However, he really emphasized the at present, which I found very interesting because we've had people like Richard Hoagland and others who've looked at Mars and said, a lot of this stuff looks like there's been structures here.
We know.
There are people who've come forward from NASA who said they've had to airbrush pictures of entire ancient setups there on the moon because there were bases there at one point.
So, who had them?
I mean, I've heard it even suggested that the Atlanteans had their own space program and got up there.
But there's no question that the reason they're airbrushing them out is because those are awkward questions and they want to research it on their own.
Might even explain why we haven't been back to the moon in almost 50 years.
It's kind of interesting.
How do you lose 50 years in a space program to the moon?
I mean, does NASA have a good answer for that?
50 years?
They're talking about getting back to the moon by 2028.
You know, 1972 is the last year we were up there.
So, I mean, this is very unusual stuff when it comes to space.
But, yeah, to answer his question, both Casey and Steiner have.
Actually, with Steiner, it's very important to what we're speaking to tonight because Aramon and the eighth sphere idea are meant to interrupt that normal.
Flow of reincarnation where you go through these different planetary cycles for evolution and come back to Earth.
With the eighth sphere, you're supposed to kind of pretend that you did that.
You go into the eighth sphere, but you come right back.
So you haven't picked up any of those lessons.
You become coarser and coarser and easier to control to the point where when Steiner looked out into the future, he said people will start basically incarnating without any knowledge of their soul.
It's like there'll be this kind of black hole walking around.
So, you know.
It is, there's no question that the normal evolutionary trend is that we pick things up from the planets.
Ethereal Bodies and Planetary Aspects00:15:46
Does that sound right, Gigi?
Yeah, completely.
I think that planets, when they're in 3D, are consolidation points for archetypes of the cosmos, basically.
And I think that they all swing into focus at some point, but it's usually only one at a time.
And from there, it's just channeling the consciousness beyond time.
Yeah.
Wow, fascinating.
Miss Olivia.
Okay.
Professor J. Paul de Vierville.
Please discern your meaning of the self, the soul, and the spirit in the way that Steiner uses them.
Well, Gigi, why don't you define them and then I'll come in with the anthroposophical explanation.
Okay.
The self, I would describe as more of your personality and your 3D self.
So you're very individuated and personified.
So you're your soul, but personified in 3D.
And then your soul, I would say, is.
Your higher aspect, your more pure light.
And then I would say that spirit is, for me anyway, it's everything.
It's omnipresent.
So that's how I would describe it.
That's fantastic.
I'll use this, which is in theosophy and anthroposophy, you have your physical body, your ethereal body, and your astral body.
The physical body is pretty self explanatory, although we don't understand our physical body as well as people in these schools do, obviously.
The ethereal body is interesting because it's a kind of auric outline of the body, it's an energetic outline of the body.
And literally, in ancient times, And in traditions that they even kept through medieval periods, they had people who could see the outline of that physical aura and treat somebody's ill based on how things were radiating.
That was the ethereal body that they were reading.
And there were traditions, and you see people moving into this with holistic training now, where they'll actually treat the etheric body and the physical body will get the benefit of it.
So if they're treating someone energetically, or you have all these different systems from Reiki to polarity, That just work with the energy side.
That's the etheric body.
The astral body is particularly important because, in the astral body, you take flight from your physical and ethereal body and go into these other realms.
You inhabit the astral realm and the spiritual realm.
You have experiences there.
You bring back those experiences.
And, you know, your physical body is the focal point of your astral body and its experiences.
Most active in dream states, but certainly if you are actively psychic.
Someone like Gigi, for example, your astral body is much more advanced, basically.
Your astral body is freer than it is in a normal person.
And that's part of what you kind of incarnate with.
But this idea is very interesting because, Gigi, you're very unusual.
When you do your psychic work, you are not channeling in the traditional fashion, you're not giving up control and let something channel through you.
While you are often a trance state or sleeping, you are conscious during the process, but it's almost similar.
It is, it is similar.
I don't lose consciousness and I'm not a deep trance channel.
I'm completely here, except not.
Yeah, it's sort of.
I definitely go into a trance.
Not so that I'm not.
I'm not.
Like, I'll tell you things, and I won't remember that if I'm working on something, sometimes I'll forget that I've told you something.
Oh, yeah.
No, there's no question.
Yeah.
I don't think it's very interesting.
The amount of information that you can get in a session, too, while being conscious, is phenomenal.
I mean, I haven't run across that before.
So I think that's quite unique what you do.
I've read deeply about people.
Like Casey and Steiner, who could go and do that when they were in certain states, but they weren't conscious.
It might be something to do with just as I think society moves forward, the generations are a little bit different, and maybe it becomes easier for children to do that.
Like if Casey was born now, he probably would be in the same boat, or he'd be able to, you know, because even the next generations will be even probably easier to slip into these states.
So, I think it's also kind of just an evolution, really, of consciousness, how we visit these places.
That was fascinating.
The next generation, that's what it is.
Thanks, Olivia.
William Klimek, Gigi, where is the other end of your tether attached?
Which one?
Just kidding.
I'm always anchored into my 3D form, into my body, and into Earth.
That's always where I am because it's always where I'm going to come back to, and that's where every little piece of information that I get is going to have to reckon and percolate through.
So I'm always tethered here.
The second place that I tether is in 5D or in a high realm, as high as I can get, basically.
And then I triangulate from there.
So I'm always tethered here, and then I'm tethered again in a very high realm, the highest that I can feel conceptually.
I let that become what I am and what I'm doing, and then I traverse there.
And the reason why I choose a very high realm to connect with is because that's going to give you that overarching perspective to perceive the astral realm with clarity.
You don't want to just go tethering somewhere, like, that's not going to be a good experience.
You're just going to basically see who you are.
In all different weird ways, weird mirror stuff will go on.
But so I try to keep it in 3D and then the highest I can conceptualize, and then I triangulate.
I'm in the weir phase.
Weir, and I, it's very hard to describe, but the tether question is very good.
Yeah, absolutely.
A quick thing to maybe get the question thing rolling even further.
Okay.
We mentioned that Uranus and Neptune were left out of the conversation with Steiner, which is a very unusual thing to do, especially since they were both discovered when he was teaching.
And of course, the mystery schools knew they were there anyway.
But he talked often about Vulcan, which theoretically doesn't exist physically for us to see.
Aha, but it's there.
So it's quite an oversight to leave them out.
Let's find out what Steiner has to say about why he left them out, and then maybe we can get some thoughts from Gigi about this.
Quote Now, this is the book Occult Signs and Symbols.
Our present Saturn received its name in ancient times when the wise ones could give meaningful names to things.
It was given its name out of its very nature.
Today, this is no longer done.
Uranus, for example, does not have such a justified name since it was discovered later.
And again, different lecture, same topic.
1908.
Thus, there were beings at the very beginning of our earth who were scarcely fitted to take part in further development, who were still so young in their whole evolution that any further step would have destroyed them.
They had to receive a sphere of action, so to speak, on which they could preserve their complete youthfulness.
This scene of action was the cosmic body which we call Uranus, and which therefore has but slight connection with earthly existence.
Uranus has become the theater for beings.
Which had to remain at a very backward stage.
How does that strike you?
That makes oddly a lot of sense because technically, if you have beings or you have consciousnesses that may be rolling off of the other spheres, you know, they're going to need somewhere to circulate themselves, but they're going to be outside of the progressive spheres.
They're going to be outside of like the Venus, Jupiter.
Vulcan cycle.
So maybe they'll come in in the future.
Maybe they're seeding.
Maybe they're seeds, like you said with the spheres.
Maybe they're like making their own thing.
Yes.
Yeah.
And they're going to swing into focus in the future or past.
Because time doesn't really matter here.
But, you know, they're going to swing into their own story when the story's written.
But maybe it's not written right now.
But we can see it because we're contributing to it.
Wow.
Amazing.
That's incredible.
You know, what's really interesting about that description is this whole idea that there were beings that.
Earth wasn't suited for at the time, and another staging ground had to be kind of developed for them to work this out.
That whole concept, I think, is loaded.
And it reminds me very much there's a whole series of readings where Casey talks about the planets, and on one of them, he has dream experiences while he's doing his reading.
So he's doing a reading and having a dream at the same time.
And he would wake up and write those dreams down.
And one of the dreams, when he goes out, when they're asking him to do this planetary stuff, he sees himself.
Around the rings of Saturn, and he realizes that Saturn is a huge maximum security prison.
And he sees kind of entities around it that would act kind of basically like sentinels.
And when he comes back, it's a very weird thing, and he writes it down, and it wasn't part of the reading, it was part of his own experience there.
But we can see the planets have these different aspects.
And then during the reading, when he was talking about Saturn, what he said from the trance state was that Saturn is where insufficient mass is cast.
That is from the point, you know, think of somebody like a Hitler or somebody who had expressed this kind of ego tendency to the point where it disrupted their entire soul progression.
They're moved into Saturn to be basically rehabilitated and come out the other side.
But it's quite interesting when you get into the planets and you start looking at them this way, it's something totally different going on there than just this kind of rotating orb.
Okay, Miss Olivia.
Okay, Penny Thomas, if we are moving into the Jupiter seal, what properties does this represent from Steiner?
Well, it's a pretty loaded question.
I will say this.
What we can get into about this is that New Jupiter is the stage before Vulcan.
And that the cause of the eighth sphere and Arman is that at this point in Earth evolution, Arman and Armonic powers have great control over humanity and harvest them energetically.
And that by developing the eighth sphere, It will be the end of humanity's normal progression of evolution, moving on to new Jupiter, which is basically like an enlightened Earth.
And then this very unusual thing that he refers to is the warmth of Vulcan.
And when he talks about Vulcan, it's quite interesting because Vulcan is where we get this term, volcano.
Vulcan is identified, I had a picture here, let's see if I can pull it up.
It's identified as fire and metallurgy, and he's a god of fire.
In Roman times.
So, we're getting this idea about Vulcan that it's related to warmth.
And when we're speaking, of course, in Steiner's cosmology, this could be ethereal warmth.
You know, it takes the warmth of that kind of devotion, so, you know, spiritual devotion to think of the things that go on when there's a huge mass.
And that develops a kind of a warmth, you know.
So, it could be that with Vulcan, what he's speaking about really is this kind of spiritual warmth realm that we go into, which is kind of like where the evolutionary.
Trail is heading.
But there's no question, if you read Steiner's material, that we're moving into the new Jupiter phase where Earth becomes new Jupiter.
That's what that scale of the planetary seals is about.
There's a lot there, and there's a lot to overcome way, way before that happens.
That's happening way, way down the road.
But it is interesting, I think, as a consideration.
How do you feel about the Jupiter aspect of that, Gigi?
Yeah, it's so fascinating how Steiner has broken these down and explained it.
Because nobody else has, even in this whole starseed scene, nobody else has, which is fascinating.
Yeah, I definitely agree.
And I think that Jupiter is really interesting because we see pieces of it.
We see references, we see Jupiter as the Greek god Zeus, and he gives birth to everybody.
You know, he's like the father of everybody.
And so we know this.
Yeah, we know this.
Is Jupiter purple in the seals?
Yeah, let's take a look at that.
Because it could almost represent the harmonizing of Mars.
It is.
It's purple.
Yeah.
It's kind of like, I don't know why, but I feel like it is.
Yeah.
Fascinating.
That is really fascinating.
It's like the higher harmonic of red and blue, or yeah.
The image from this medieval painting I found very interesting in relation to Vulcan.
And again, here he is doing his fire metallurgy.
And this is Lenane who drew this in the Middle Ages.
And here is Venus coming to meet Vulcan in this painting and observing his process of using the magic of fire around the metallurgy.
I think that there is always a lot in these medieval paintings and in the ancient objective art that is trying to give us instruction.
But there's no question there's something about the metallurgy, this concept of Vulcan and Venus over and over again showing up around Vulcan.
And then that being applied to these orbs and spheres out there that we know as these planets and ideas of planets and ideas of spheres.
There's definitely something in there.
How do you feel, Gigi, when you see Venus so close to this Vulcan idea and Steiner saying, hey, we're moving evolutionary steps up to this Vulcan sphere?
It's like Vulcan is a higher form of Venus in a way.
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But for whatever reason, when you showed me the picture, it reminded me of the center of the Earth.
And kind of the iron core, the iron core crystal of the center of the earth.
And it looks like he's working with that mineral kingdom, that kind of iron.
It's almost like he's crafting or creating the world.
He's crafting.
He's like in the inner earth, almost like crafting.
And when people incarnate from a sphere, they come from the inner earth up.
So they almost have to go through Vulcan or go through that fire, lava.
Stage, it's kind of where we get, we go into that inner earth before we incarnate, we get all of the archetypes of earth and the planet.
And so it's almost like he's wheeled, I know this is quite out there, but it's almost like he's wielding that in a way.
And you'd have to be in the future to do that, to look back and to do that.
Oh, yeah, that's interesting.
No, no, I'm right there with you.
I was just thinking about that because you said at one level, and this is something that we get into in anthroposophy.
There is no space, there is no time.
Right.
That's the ultimate kind of realization when you're doing this.
There's no space and there's no time, it's just resonance.
And so you pop into time and space based on what you want to achieve, what experience you want to have by holding a resonance.
So Vulcan may be one way in one period of time and then in another period of time, something else.
So it's all in the higher dimensions, it's all based on resonance.
And time is just something you pop into to get a certain resonance, a certain slice of resonance.
I like that.
We'll call this section Slice of Resonance.
Miss Olivia.
Okay, so you were just getting into this, but Ether Steel is asking Do you think that the cosmic vibration of the planet and the sonic music they produce have an impact on our spiritual life slash growth?
And if so, how strongly do they impact?
Well, the music of the spheres instantly.
Music, Gigi.
Yeah, it's everything.
I think that it's that rhythm.
That turns the seasons, that kind of turns the tides, that is moving all of us, that we have to learn to align with.
Because the spheres are always affecting us, but we have the choice to tune into that music and dance to it or not.
And I think what happens is the cosmos starts playing a different song, and we're still dancing to the old one.
And we start doing things like that.
So I think it's everything.
And I think that we hear it with our whole bodies, we hear it with our soul.
And that's why we have to live with our soul.
And live from that place.
Otherwise, you know, because we sense the spheres, you know, so deeply.
So I think it's everything.
I think we get out of rhythm unless we don't.
Gigi, it reminds me, you know, Steiner, when he had reached an incredible point of anthroposophy in about 1916, and he made this comment again in 1918, he felt that he had developed this quite well after.
Theosophy and the small group became something that was quite a powerful force.
But he was very disappointed that neither anthroposophy nor theosophy were able to head off World War I.
And he said, if anthroposophy fails in its mission, in 100 years, this window will open up, a 20 to 30 year window will open up, which will see the opportunity again for anthroposophy and the mystery schools to have.
That opportunity to do this again and do it and basically make that progress that they couldn't make because the war came up.
What do you think about that, considering we're right in the middle of this process, this period right now?
Yeah, I believe we are.
I believe that we are in a rebirth, kind of spiritually, absolutely.
But I think that we're going to move towards that spiritual science, not Scientology, but that quantum physics and spirituality kind of thing.
And that's where we'll balance out that materialistic phase.
Is when we start bringing science to spirit, science won't work against us any longer.
And that's what I think he was trying to do.
And I think he did a really good job for the time, but we needed to progress.
We needed to, because what happened in between, you know, Steiner's work and to now is we started forming a lot of questions.
Yeah.
And I think building a bigger desire to remember who we are and to connect.
Or there's a large portion of the population that now, Is wanting that.
And perhaps before, it just, our minds weren't the right shape yet.
We didn't have the right questions.
But now I think there's time for that.
Now I think that there's a possibility.
Maybe not everyone is going to obviously wake up.
It's not a perfect world, but I think there's a significant amount.
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Wow, fascinating.
The scientific materialism has reached this, and it's reaching higher fever pitch as we move just in the beginning of the 21st century.
It's already going off the rails.
And here's this prediction that side by side with it, this mystery school.
Resonance is coming back up to basically counteract it the way that they had tried to counteract it when it first came on the scene.
It's quite remarkable.
It's very interesting.
Yes, Miss Olivia.
Okay, so there are three questions that are kind of aligned.
John Horseman says, The planets are hyperdimensional beings.
Damien says, Do you think the planets or spheres are angels?
And Hilly Caper says, Are the planets the archons or architects?
Are we to fight their agents or kneel to them?
So, what are the planets?
Yeah, well, I would say that I certainly find those are unusual terms to use.
When I think about the planets, I think about them differently.
But why don't we have you take a stab at that one, Gigi?
Yeah, I think one of the most beautiful things about our consciousness as humans is that we can get out of our human form and start thinking about a planet as a person.
And that's obviously what we do with astrology.
We're just personifying them, and the Greeks personified them.
But I think for our purposes, Here on Earth, I wouldn't necessarily think of them as a person.
I would give them qualities of a person, archetypes of a type of personality.
And I think going up a little bit further, I think that would speak about the type of beings that would incarnate there.
And then going up further in the dimensions, you might have a person or an identity that is projecting downward and it's their life force that's creating that planet.
But from our perspective here in 3D, I don't feel like that would be the ultimate truth.
But if you consider that person existing in a higher dimension and it's their personality being kind of shot down, it's kind of like all those movies where is someone dreaming this reality into existence.
You know, perhaps Venus is the dream of somebody and Earth is the dream of somebody.
So you can definitely go up the dimensions and play with those ideas.
But the Archon thing, I'm not sure.
I haven't really looked into the.
Archon stuff to be honest, so I wouldn't be able to comment there, but um, they're archetypes, so you can put them pretty much, and they're very important archetypes for our consciousness.
You can place them all different types of ways, but just be very flexible when you do it and uh, you know, play with it, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And it's interesting, I was just thinking about how Gurdjieff inverted that very same idea instead of personifying the planets, he personified people as planets, and he said.
The reason you don't understand your interactions with other people is because it's like when you get close to another person, you're in an orbit and it can be a disturbing orbit or a good, healthy orbit.
And he talked about people walking around, even in society, being basically like a mass of planets magnetically interacting with each other, the same way this is going on in the cosmos.
So it works both ways.
Okay, keep rolling.
Bruce Ross Morgan just asked an interesting question.
Hey, Bruce.
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14th, 1915, France, UFO event or religious miracle.
1,000 soldiers saw a bright light that caused them to drop their weapons and walk away.
Yeah, that's a weird period of time, too.
I think about the Fatima mystery, which happened a little while after that.
There's something about World War I and the brutality of it that I think really called spiritual forces into action.
And there are a lot of accounts from World War I of actual sightings of angels ministering to all these dead or wounded soldiers on the battlefield.
You know, we had just discovered a number of things, you know, so machine guns, planes, attacks from the army.
It was the most brutal war of its period.
And, you know, It was followed up by the most brutal war of all time, which is World War II.
But just that this awakening into this violent reality of World War I, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those things were related on a spiritual level, breaking through and just trying to get us into a different place.
And we know with the Fatima sighting, things like that, GG, that's kind of like the spiritual level breaking through to the physical, kind of breaking through that window, that invisible wall.
Yeah, that would take incredible energy and love to do that.
And it would be to create like a balancing point for humanity to not give up and to not lose themselves in darkness and in shadow.
I'm not familiar with that November date or the thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if something was projecting downwards to say, keep going, you know, don't forget that you're light.
I'm sure it was just an alliance spaceship keeping an eye.
Getting ready.
Beam comes down.
Exactly.
It seems like very comfortable for you to go up and down in those crafts, Gigi.
Yes, it is.
Well, you know, everybody's going to want to know if you've ever seen a UFO, Gigi.
It's the question we haven't asked, but it's episode 50.
How about it?
Yeah, I've seen a lot of UFOs.
I have.
I've had the pleasure, and I'm very lucky, very fortunate I've seen.
I've seen a lot of different crafts.
I've seen them as light.
I've seen a lot of the time, sometimes it's hard to discern from consciousness if they're just consciousness or if they're physical.
But I've seen my fair share.
Is it safe to say that I think you mentioned to me once that you saw some regular standard aircraft chasing one at one point?
Yeah, I have had that happen.
That's pretty wild.
Yeah, they know.
When interdimensionals start to Come down and physicalize, they know, you know, so early warning radar, absolutely.
Yeah, hey, I don't know how you know this.
Olivia, we'll take the last couple of questions.
Okay, Kendall Weaver is 5G the most powerful harmonic frequency the planet has experienced since Atlantis?
I think they're getting there.
Um, how do you feel about that, Gigi?
You've been able to tune in to that on an energetic perspective.
Let's start with that.
I think, yeah, the thing to keep in mind a lot of people are like, well, why make it spiritual?
You know, why make 5G a spiritual topic?
Well, the quality of your mind, the quality of your emotions is going to determine your quality of spiritual connection and also your access, right?
So, if you have something like 5G that's scrambling or making it difficult for you to connect to your, you know, difficult for you to focus, things like that, that's going to affect your harmonic and that's going to affect how high you can project yourself.
It's just going to make it more difficult to connect because you need to be harmonized to connect.
The best thing to do is to go into nature to balance and ground all that kind of stuff, electrical energy, because we're just bioenergetic beings.
So, when that starts getting messed with, it's hard to be coherent enough to pierce beyond.
The lower astral, essentially.
So that's the whole thing.
The mind is a big deal.
It's quite interesting.
Do you remember when Joseph Farrell was on, Olivia, and he said one of the things that can block 5G were mosquito nets?
Oh, right.
How unusual.
It's very strange.
I'm going to go back and watch that to figure out exactly what he was talking about.
Okay, we're going to take the last couple of questions.
And it's fantastic.
I want to remind everyone you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
It's been an amazing 50th episode.
We're very happy.
And we, you know, it's very interesting with the X Steganography series.
The mystery schools always form the heart of this whenever we're looking on the X front.
And for that symbol, when you go back through it, you're going to run into the mystery schools over and over again.
And it forms the kind of foundation for the series, as opposed to, you know, there are so many aspects that are technological around the X and the programs that they've hidden.
But oddly enough, even though I found.
Hundreds of examples of those X projects going black, it's the X steganography in the mystery schools that really holds the secrecy because they've been doing it for thousands of years.
So, this episode with Steiner's work and Ahriman and this prediction that he had of anthroposophy coming back in full bloom in a hundred years, right in this period of time that we're in now, I think that Steiner's work needs to be re examined and that it was just about.
A hundred or so years ahead of its time.
And here we are, you know, coming right into it.
But there's no question that they've made this huge effort to bring this information out to us.
So, Ms. Olivia, we'll take the last couple of questions for Ms. Gigi.
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Go to ggyoung.com, take a deep look at her new course.
This is something very innovative.
And if you know Gigi's work, you know she's always working at the edge of innovation for personal development.
And that's what I think is so interesting, which is, you know, on this program, with the work we do, we cover these broad topics and go into things.
But what I like really when we go and look at Gigi's work is that she is working individually.
And people are getting individual benefit from learning those things.
And so these courses are certainly quite unique.
And so I highly recommend that at ggyoung.com.
And off to you, Miss Olivia.
Okay.
So, Professor Devere Vittel again, what would you both consider a successful outcome of Steiner's spiritual science?
That's a good question.
Gigi, we'll start with you.
I would consider a couple things.
I would like to see Steiner's work be translated.
I'd like to see more people working on that to get what he did say out because we don't have all of it.
So, there's that.
You know, I'd like to see it be translated.
I'd like to see more Waldorf schools open.
Yes.
Absolutely.
We do need a new model for that, for the school system.
But I also think that we need to add on to his work and add it on for this time, for what he couldn't see, and continue it.
So when he reincarnates, he can come back.
He can just come right on in and take over again.
Pick it up again.
Yeah.
It'll be like, hey, we've made some progress here.
Yeah.
It's a great point, actually.
You know what's fascinating?
I want to mention this, which is that Sting's wife is really into biodynamic farming.
And she convinced him to buy land in Italy to make biodynamic wine.
You may have seen some of this biodynamic wine.
And biodynamic farming is, of course, what Steiner developed.
And I don't know if many people know this, but Findhorn, you know, he took the people who were involved in building Findhorn, took A place where nothing would grow and use Steiner's biodynamic farming methods and created the world's most lush garden on the planet where people at a certain point were interacting with nature spirits and all the rest.
And the things that can't be denied is that they grew the largest strawberries in history and all the rest.
So these principles do work on the ground.
When we're considering Steiner's work, if we look at examples like Findhorn, if we look at examples like the Waldorf schools, This incredible message, this incredible legacy of work that's been allowed to come down to us through the mystery schools.
And I think what they're looking for is that we don't squander it and that we don't spend our days and nights wrapped up in political two minutes hate and feel good about hating some political figure and like that's done something.
And I have to say, you and I, Gigi, we've been on Facebook enough.
After a while, you look at all those posts and you're like, even if they're right, I don't want to look at it.
How many times can you look at photos of brutality or calling somebody out or whatever?
At a certain point, it becomes a negative element inside your own thinking, and that's not creative.
So I think that this is maybe what we need to do look at this and say, when we spend our energy, if we're interested in alternative subjects, independent subjects, or even if we're coming from any angle where we're trying to adopt a more Spiritual outlook or more informed outlook on our lives that the Steiner material is so rich and so helpful and has such a track record that there's so many things in there that haven't even been tried.
You know, think about that with the Casey readings or the Kerjeff work.
These are incredible legacies, and people are always looking, What's the next thing?
What's the big crazy next revelation I can get?
Where are those Kabbalah rests?
Where is Soros waving from the boat that's going to Gitmo?
You know, it's a real waste of time.
There's incredible things that have been left for us.
By people and who were connected with a mystery tradition that goes back thousands of years.
I think that those things are vouchsafed for us.
So, my answer to your question in relation to Steiner is I'd like to see a fuller recognition of the work that he's done.
Absolutely.
So, Gigi, you had that on the head, hit that right on the head.
Nicely done, Miss Olivia.
Okay.
Gigi Kate, where does the earth fall in the scheme of all of this?
The earth is a dream.
Yeah, well, it is actually.
You know what?
It's like Earth is our, you know how we're anchored in our bodies?
We were just saying you got an anchor in your body, and then you can project Earth is the thing that we're anchored in.
So, when Steiner talks about the spheres, he's talking about the spheres in context to the Earth, which is what we are.
So, if we want to know what Earth is, we just look at what humanity is.
And when we start talking about the Martian sphere influencing and the Venusian sphere influencing, well, Earth is part of that.
Earth is taking on those archetypes.
So, Earth is part Venus, Earth is part Martian, Earth is part Jupiter in the future, though.
And, you know, but it's the moon in the past, though.
So, Earth is the embodiment of the cosmos in a specific point in time, and so are we.
And that's why the spheres are relating to us in this way.
And that's why we call them seals, is because we're moving through them, breaking through those seals.
And so, it's more like Earth is the embodiment of us, and everything is in context to that, I would say.
Fascinating.
You know what's remarkable about that is I would say, Earth is the greatest experiment of any of the other spheres that have been tried, of any of the other conditions.
It is the focal point meeting of physical, mental, and spiritual forces.
And the interaction of those forces can show us our place as we are right in the middle of it.
So there's no doubt there's an incredible dynamic place that we occupy in the earth.
And for those transhumanist movements that Are so anti human and like, oh, couldn't we just get humanity off the planet?
It would be so much better off and all the rest of it.
No, if you look at the mystery school tradition, there's been an incredible effort to try and create the proper conditions for humanity and the incredible things that humanity has as a gift for the rest of the universe.
So, quite a remarkable place.
We'll take one more question, Miss Olivia.
You're up.
All right.
So, this is going to be an X question that I saved from yesterday.
Okay, from a cult fan.
Can such a thing as Ordeal X be related to the mystery school tradition of a candidate experiencing a place between life and death in order to reveal to them that they are in fact eternal beings?
By extension, is the X representing the phenomena of two worlds, spirit and earthly or mundane, combined slash overlapping?
After all, we are truly spiritual beings having a human experience, right?
And is the place where they meet a potheum?
Well, it's not all, it's all very interesting.
First of all, one thing I would say about this is when you're talking about that struggle that somebody has when they are taking on something like a mystery training and it shows them that space between life and death, whenever somebody makes a choice in their daily life to sacrifice something, so, you know, if you sacrifice a certain amount of time to help someone else out with something, you remember the Search for God groups,
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they were looking for all these things from Casey and You know, they wanted, how do I waken my third eye?
All these things.
And the instructions he gave them were to push elderly people on Virginia Beach to put them in the right state of mind because they've done a certain amount of service.
So the two principles of attunement with service balanced each other out.
And they were always arm in arm when you look into the mystery school history and you look into these teachers and what they're telling us.
Or if you look into the Christian tradition or Buddha, it is attunement and service.
So, That space is available to us every day.
In other words, you don't need to be, you know, in the sense of the mystery schools, looking at your own death and going through this whole experience.
Sacrifice and what Gurdjieff called conscious suffering, that is making a sacrifice, is that action that's available to you in everyday life.
And that I think is valuable because it's a daily affirmation that you're interacting with that energy where you are rejecting comfort in that sense.
But you're not going to some extreme of saying, well, I'm going to put myself through this ordeal and stay in a cave for 40 days to see if I have a spiritual awakening.
We've had people who've done that.
Look at Muhammad, look at these different spiritual teachers.
But I would say that that experience, the one thing that we can learn from the Steiner and the Gurdjieff tradition is that experience is available to us daily.
And that's really what I think they're driving at.
But the great archetype is some of these great trials and travails that you would go through if you were going into a mystery school, very much like going into the military and the types of things that they would expect you to sacrifice in order to be a good soldier.
So it's quite remarkable when you get into schoolwork from its truest place.
And when I speak of schoolwork, mystery schoolwork, from its truest place, it seems like the more effort that you make outside of your comfort zone, the more progress it seems that is available to you.
So you are no longer the plaything of your own weaknesses in that sense.
And I think that's the first level of mystery school work.
In terms of Apotheum, I would say this, and it's good that we're talking about Apotheum in the 50th episode.
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Apotheum is largely a reality distortion field that came about as some kind of gigantic distortion physically and spiritually with the Atlanteans.
However, as a kind of runaway physics that we see over and over again when it comes to UFO encounters, for example, where there's missing time or where it shuts down power plants or shuts down nuclear missile sites or whatever it is, there's something that Plays off against our own physical dimensional characteristics when those things show up.
There's no question that that is what the X guards against, which is the unleashing of this sort of contrary physics, this runaway reality distortion field.
The Greeks called, used a word, apotheum, back there, but it's a word that shows up here and there, and it's not even, if you look up apotheum right now, you're not going to find it.
You'd have to dig deep.
And when I saw it, Somehow it clicked with me that that was the word to use for this particular state of things.
By the way, our most modern example of apotheosis is the UFO experience, where people just lose time.
Suddenly they see themselves abducted through walls and things like that.
I mean, that's a completely different physics that's in operation.
So it's very important, I think, understanding the larger picture of apotheosis whenever those supernatural or supernormal experiences pop up.
Great question.
We'll take one more because you are the question.
Okay.
Well, so.
Wanted to know how best to meditate on the planetary seals.
Ah, Gigi.
I would just take one.
There's several different renditions.
Like there's the colored ones, there's the two colored, two toned ones.
I would figure out which one speaks to you the most, like which set.
And then I would just kind of gaze at it, honestly.
I would just do like a gazing meditation with it.
You could also try to close your eyes and recreate it in your mind.
But go ahead.
Yeah, no, I really like that.
That's a great idea.
Yeah, but keep in mind that if you're looking for answers from it or you're looking to see like a Venusian being or like a, it may come days after the fact.
Because when you start looking at symbols like this and meditating, it can take a while to percolate into your 3D consciousness.
So when you look at the seal, I feel it different when I look at the seals.
It's almost like something is starting to awaken just by viewing it.
Yeah.
But so it could like you could get something right away if it's ready to pop, but then it could also be days or weeks and something could come in.
It just depends on where you're soft and where you're hard, you know, if it can get through.
So, yes, where would you start?
Which planet would you just use your intuition to figure out which one you're drawn to?
I always suggest that because I'm a spontaneous person, so I would always suggest to trust whatever's standing out to you.
But I mean, but they're also in sequence.
He does, I mean, Steiner gives them in a sequence too.
But that would probably be a different type of meditation.
What do you think?
What would you do?
I would be intuitive.
Well, I have to say, Gigi, I'd be inclined to take meditation advice from you.
There's no question about it.
So I like that a lot.
And if anything, some of the greatest advice you've ever given me is it was pretty funny too, because you were saying, Hmm, is there like a lot of electronics in your room?
You know, I was like, this is going to be a bad part of the conversation because my room is just covered in electronic junk.
But I do think it's interesting with the planets, which is we're getting out of that controlled kind of media or entertainment reality when we're thinking about them.
Steiner left them there.
People don't exactly know why Steiner emphasized.
Those seven planetary seals, and they don't know what to make of the Mercury Venus switch.
In fact, this show with Gigi Young and I discussing it is really one of the first open discussions of that switch I've ever seen anywhere.
There's a few curious references in academia over time for people interested in anthroposophy, but this is quite something when you think about it, and if it's true.
The reasons behind it, I think, are absolutely cosmic and powerful.
So that's a whole interesting place I would go into and looking at that and thinking, what is this Mercury Venus aspect all about?
But there's no question when you tune into the planets, you're going into a totally different state.
One thing I wanted to mention in relation to Aramon and wanted to get your take on this, Gigi, which is when Steiner was being questioned because he had separated out these Luciferian forces.
From the Aramonic forces, saying that yes, both have had their kind of bad impacts, but it was the Aramon.
This is the confusion, speaking of switches, that it's the Lucifer Aramon are switched, and actually that Aramon is the satanic Mephistopheles devil that we know.
And they asked him to kind of detail this a little bit.
And he said, well, the Luciferic beings can only work on humanity's astral body.
But the harmonic beings spread matter out like a veil.
And I wondered, I caught that phrase and wrote it down, and I wanted to get your take on that.
They spread matter out like a veil.
So it's almost like there's a hierarchy of darkness.
Right.
And there's, you know, some beings or some echelon of beings are only able to work with more etheric energies or kind of within a certain sphere.
But then there's maybe one larger being that is able to actually affect matter or be a solidified.
Because when you say spread matter, it almost feels like solidifying darkness within or solidifying something.
Being a force of solidification, like Steiner felt.
So, probably a figurehead that is overarching and that is pushing and maybe controlling and using whatever power that this individual does have, this esoteric being does have, to really physicalize the darkness or really bring that into a more physical form is how I would take it.
Oh, that's really interesting when you think about how the incredible impact of the technology now.
Then those two things work together incredibly.
And apparently, at this time in history, these forces are tag teaming on the eighth sphere when they weren't before.
Now they have a joint cause that they didn't have earlier.
That also is really interesting.
Well, it's like the more light that kind of comes to the planet, the more we kind of move into that cosmic day cycle, the more the dark forces have to sort of.
Come together and join forces because everything moves in rhythms and cycles.
There's a night and there's a day.
And we were in a really bad night.
We were kind of in this darker period, you know, our Kali Yuga cycle.
And so they're going to have, they don't need, they can kind of fight amongst themselves because, you know, they can.
But as we start shifting and there's an opportunity for light, like Steiner said, you know, there will be this opportunity for light.
There'll be another chance, or I forget how he worded it, but something like that.
Oh, yeah.
And they're going to have to join together because, you know, can't have that light getting in there.
Right.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I think it's fascinating, too, when you think about it, the idea that they would have to use our own awakening against us.
Building Comfort in Darker Periods00:15:38
And that's the tricky part because we do see quite a bit of that of people saying, hey, I'm red pilled, but they become 24 7 addicted to this.
Two minutes hate idea from 1984, where you know, in the 1984 book, they go there before these huge screens, all these people would gather and hate at Goldstein, who was the enemy of the party or whatever, and then they'd feel relaxed, they'd go away in this brainwashed state, and every day they would show up to do this.
And so much that we're seeing in the midst of the awakening of all this, right in the middle of the independent media, for example, you see so many of these things proliferating, and that's a real danger because it can split this energy that's required for that higher vision.
Oh, yeah.
And there's a difference also between intellectual knowledge and being able to regurgitate facts and talk about a mystery school teaching or talk about esoterica and actually living it.
And so that's what we're seeing as well that mimicry and just kind of, I'm woke, but only on an intellectual level.
Like, I understand.
40% more than I did last year.
It's in my mind now.
I'm aware, but nothing is integrated into the soul.
Nothing's integrated into the being.
That's a real danger.
That is a real danger.
And that's sort of like feeling like you're eating, but there's no nutrition in the food.
Yes.
And then the distraction is like the two minute hate, where you just keep yourself super emotionally stimulated and like overwhelmed, but you feel like you know more.
You feel like you're more aware.
So it's kind of like the emotions and the mind are working against one another, where you feel like you're so much smarter, but then you're completely emotionally exhausted all the time.
So it's kind of like an inversion of the mind and the emotional body.
You know, rather than go inward, you're blaming someone else.
And when someone else gets arrested, it's somehow going to be redemption for you.
You know, it's sort of this strange version.
Olivia's giving me a thumbs up over here.
That's me.
That's me.
You know, when you say go within, I'm just curious because I haven't meditated in years and I am going to start.
And, you know, I consider myself woke to a degree, but I'm off balance.
You know, I'm disturbed and drained.
From knowing too much.
So, what would you say?
And I know a lot of the audience members are as well to start self nurturing to kind of build up a sense of comfort in the universe.
Well, I will say this about you, though, which is that you're overwhelmed with things, but you have incredible understanding of it.
So, it's a little different.
You're not the example that we were talking about.
Okay.
Well, I'm my own version of that.
You're hard on yourself.
Yes.
You're hard on yourself.
You're actually a lot more spiritual than you think you are, and you're actually a lot more connected than you think you are.
And I think that you're your own worst enemy there.
And the first thing I would clear up is just giving yourself the credit that you deserve and really sitting in that and really feeling that and really knowing that.
I also feel like you're super empathic, and I think that you're picking up more stuff.
And so I would really focus on nature, being in nature, and allowing nature to just draw everything out of you.
Also, you have to do your art.
You have to do things that you love because they imbue you with the fire of who you are.
And once you're imbued with your soul and the fire of who you are, you meditate a lot easier.
It's really, really hard to meditate when, or to go inward and to feel yourself when you haven't done something that you love.
It's just a lot harder.
Well, and Olivia, you're a terrific artist, so that's a real.
Yes, and I really have not had an outlet for my creativity.
There you go.
You need the outlet.
You have to do your art every day.
You have to do it every day.
Something artistic, even if it's looking at somebody else's art and getting that flickering.
And then just start sinking into it and just letting go and just sinking in deeper and deeper.
I mean, even listen to binaural beats.
Do whatever you can to just let go.
And five minutes is great.
Does not have to be some pretentious thing at all.
Five minutes is great.
Five minutes in the morning is great.
Five minutes in the afternoon is great.
And your body.
Will remember as well.
Like when you begin a little tiny meditation practice, it gets easier every time.
Your first few times are the hardest.
Wow, fascinating.
And you just reminded me of this incredible link that we have to Maureen Seberg's story.
And she's an incredible writer for Psychology Today.
I don't know if she's out there tonight, but just incredible.
But she did an article on Hilma of Clint.
And she, of course, was an anthroposophical artist.
And Steiner had said to her, hold off on releasing your work for 50 years because basically the world wasn't ready to absorb the spiritual teaching inside of that artwork.
And it is quite remarkable.
Olivia's going to put it up.
Go ahead.
You put it up again.
It's the Psychology Today article.
And it was great because there's so much, there's so many interesting things and there's so many angles that she came in on it with.
And I'm in there actually talking to her about the mystery school aspect of this.
And there's so much.
Obviously associated with anthroposophy and Clint, that I think that this is a remarkable place to start in looking at that and Maureen's own incredible interest in this.
So, everyone should check that article out.
The link is there in the chat.
Thank you so much, everyone.
An incredible 50th episode with Gigi Young on Rudolf Steiner.
Yes, Miss Olivia?
I just wanted to throw in a last minute question.
Okay, so Anxious Squirrel, great name, says In which book does Steiner discuss the switch?
Well, it's interesting.
It's not one particular book, but it's mentioned in Egyptian Myths and Mysteries, and it's mentioned in the Mystery of St. John also.
But you can definitely find the essential Steiner outline in an outline of occult science.
He gives his kind of baseline impression of his teaching, and the planets are in there.
But then when you go further and you look into Books like Cosmic Memory and Egyptian Myths and Mysteries, then these strange things start to pop up about this very, very unusual.
We do not know the dimensions of the switch and exactly what's involved or why it was done, but I think this is a powerful place.
And the fact that he put it out there meant that we were meant to look into it.
He's putting it out there and basically saying, I'm not going to tell you anymore, but here I'm going to tell you this much and you can follow up.
So it is, I think, a remarkable thing to track down.
Amazing stuff on Steiner's Planetary Seals revealed.
Of course, this is the one year anniversary of the X series and the X Steganography series, which we started last year at this time.
And I have to say, the topics that we've been able to get into and the subjects that we've been able to move forward are exactly why I got into dark journalism.
So it's been a great honor for me to be able to do this.
And we're going to be coming back.
With more, and we highly recommend that you sign up for the newsletter to keep up with that.
Of course, the event I mentioned, I've been getting a lot of emails about the Graham Hancock event.
It is now sold out.
Thank you very much for everyone who's coming.
We will see you on Saturday, May 25th in Cambridge with Graham Hancock and his book, America Before.
Very much looking forward to this, and we'll definitely have Graham on the show as well.
So thank you so much, and Gigi Young, incredible.
Of course, all the X episodes with Gigi are.
Remarkable and my personal favorites.
Gigi, amazing work that you do.
And thank you so much for all of your help and just for being this incredible insight as we've been doing this work.
Well, thank you guys for having me.
It's great to see you.
Go to ggyoung.com.
That's where her new course is.
And you can really see this incredible tapestry of subjects that she tackles.
Just go right to her YouTube channel, type in Gigi Young, and you'll find some remarkable information that she's brought forward.
So, thanks so much, Gigi.
Thank you.
And we will be back.
We have a couple of recorded shows coming up because something massive is taking place, which is that we're moving the studio.
So that's going to be a lot of fun, as you can imagine.
But we'll be back, coming back with some live episodes.
And you guys can bring the X series back, get behind the show, subscribe to it, go to Dark Journalist.
And we've kept it very affordable for you, and we appreciate your support.
But this is definitely, you know, now's the time.
I always say in relation to this stuff, You know, it's not apathy, it's very last year, and getting involved and getting behind things that are giving you the information is perfect timing.
A couple of shout outs, Miss Olivia.
Who we got out there?
We've got David Tormina.
David Tormina, excellent.
We have Fuberfighter, we have Nish, we have the Culfan, we have John Guilfoyle, we've got Jay Mallet, we've got Charlotte.
Let's see, everybody's here tonight CJ Raymer, Josh Randall, who we haven't seen in a while.
Oh, that's great.
Josh Randall.
Thomas Tyson.
Excellent.
Wow.
It's great to have everyone here.
You guys have done incredible things, of course.
You know, the whole XFam on Twitter, which Olivia has kind of corralled so well and put out so many creative, interesting ideas back and forth.
And you can find at Dark Journalist on Twitter.
You know, we're putting that out there on a more regular basis.
Olivia is a wings girl and she's always doing some incredibly funny and creative things.
You'll find me there.
No doubt about it.
Make sure to get on board with it.
I see Carly from Dimensions and Beyond.
Thank you, Carly.
And hopefully, some of our European friends were able to join us tonight because the hours were a little bit better on you.
We will be back with a recorded episode next week, and then we're coming back live after that the following Friday.
Thank you so much.
The X Steganography series continues.
Make sure it comes your way.
Get behind the series.
This is a great time for you guys to give us your support on that, and we really appreciate it.
And I have to say, a few people have asked me what my favorite episode is, and that's really hard.
I have to say, the Gigi Young episodes.
That we've done, including tonight, there's always something magic that takes place when Gigi's going into this work.
It's just absolutely fascinating.
But all the guests and all the subjects, I think, are very intriguing.
I will say this there's something about the Tua de Danan episode that we did about this very mysterious group in Ireland and their mystical ways, which we did back in the fall, stands out as one of my personal favorites, as does the Alice in Wonderland episode about Emma Britton.
And the Orphic Circle.
I think that those two certainly come to mind.
And the episode we recently did on the Hot Zone, you know, I have to say that episode with Charles Hapgood and this whole range of information that he brought forward on the pole shift and so on, quite remarkable.
And of course, any episode that we have with Joseph Farrell.
Yeah.
I'm calling April right now Hot Zone Month.
Get ready.
Get ready because we have some amazing, powerful things in relation to the hot zone research about what's going on with Atlantis Rising, and you're going to want to be a part of that.
That's why it's a great time to become a member.
And also, we are very excited to bring you those shows.
And you guys are fantastic.
We have said in relation to the chat room that it's really the ideas room, and that chat just does not serve the purpose.
It's ideas, and we've seen some amazing ideas come out of that.
Just an incredible period of time.
And Miss Olivia, a round of applause for Miss Olivia because you've done an amazing job over the course of this year pulling together really kind of difficult topics, esoteric, literally topics, and structuring them so and really being that incredible interface with everyone.
So, well, I have benefited greatly from this experience.
I have to, I love all my new friends, and my life is very different from how it was a year ago.
Wow, isn't that fascinating?
Thank you.
Yeah.
Well, you've done an amazing job, and as only you can.
And I have to say that we've had some incredible luck having people like Olivia and Gigi Young.
I mean, this is definitely, we're very lucky to have the kinds of incredible people contributing to this.
We will see you next week and then live the following week.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
It's been a great 49th and 50th episode.
Yes.
Aren't you going to ask me the question?
The question is.
There's only one question left, Olivia.
Okay.
Let's hear it.
What is for anthroposophical dinner?
Okay.
Well, Thomas Tyson suggests that we have a hurra pasta with our marinara sauce with Vulcan blackened potatoes.
Wow.
That's really great.
He was right on top of it.
Yep.
We had no chance.
It sounds pretty good.
But seriously, what are you in the mood for?
Well, you know, I'm very food suggestible, so now I'm not going to be satisfied until I have this.