Dark Journalist Daniel Liszt connects CERN's $6 billion budget to Nazi funds and John Dee's Enochian magic, arguing the facility uses X-band radar derived from Varian brothers' Klystrons for interdimensional portals. He claims secret societies employ steganography via symbols like the "X" to hide UFO technology from the public while suppressing democratic processes since JFK's assassination. Ultimately, this narrative suggests global powers utilize occult-inspired science to maintain control over advanced off-world relations and national security secrets. [Automatically generated summary]
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Unlocking The X Secrecy00:07:07
And we are live.
This is Dark Journalist.
It's great to be with you.
It's super to have so many people here tonight already.
We're just getting started.
And before I get started, of course, we have Olivia here.
Hi, everyone.
Taking care of all you guys out there.
And on the second half of the program, of course, we are going to do questions.
So remember to ask them all in caps and we'll put those together and answer your questions tonight.
But tonight's going to be a very big night in terms of the X series.
I don't know how many of you have seen all eight episodes.
Olivia, didn't you ask that question?
Yes, and most of them have seen the majority of them.
That's very impressive.
It's going to be helpful tonight because that range, we're bringing in so many important aspects.
And of course, our theme for tonight is Strange Fire, and we go all the way back to John Dee and Queen Elizabeth.
But the CERN being right out front with the X technology tells us that we're dancing here between the 21st and the 16th century, and we're going to flip back and forth.
With little Johns into the 19th century in between.
But it's going to be crucial like that.
In some ways, I would say that there are aspects to tonight's show which will completely remove or begin to remove part of the X secrecy and part of the UFO file secrecy.
And after studying this for a long time, I don't say things like that lightly.
I think we've really arrived at a crucial point.
And there's a few reasons why I come to that conclusion.
I'm going to make them clear for everyone.
So let's get right into it.
Of course, the ex steganography that we've been studying is something that's come up in research that I've taken on, which has to do with spending so much time looking at various projects that went underground, predominantly relating to the UFO file.
And we saw over and over again these different programs that came out of that, like Blue Gemini, like the Dornberger work, that when the Projects would go black, they'd suddenly turn up with an X designation, which was very important.
That kind of is the key.
You know, if you think of the Rosetta Stone and how they figured out how hieroglyphs work, we're in a similar type of situation because what's happening literally is we're finding ourselves arriving at a point of a key.
And the key in this case is the steganography around X and how that gets us into what they're moving that.
File around with what is contained inside the file, and it's not just the technology but the effect of the technology.
And when we went a little bit deeper, of course, with the ex steganography, it went a lot deeper than just the UFO file.
You will find it traveling back there through history, through the mystery school influence, and everything from anthroposophy to theosophy.
Theosophy figures in so, you know, it's almost like something was vouchsafed for us back there.
I'm very excited to bring this to you tonight.
It's absolutely explosive.
And theosophy is right in the heart of it.
Now, the ex steganography has shown up on a presidential level in a few cases that shows us this thread.
And it kept turning up whenever I was looking at things relating to the presidential work around the UFO file.
And we found, for example, that Eisenhower had a time capsule called Project X, that was a 100 year time capsule, which is due to be open in 2053.
Of course, Lyndon Johnson at his library had something, and that was very interesting too because it's a letter.
And this letter is not to be opened until 50 years after his death.
Well, that's 2023.
But it is there at the library.
And so we get these, what I call stealth archives.
The stealth archives are there and we know about them, but we can't quite get our hands on them.
Of course, Robert Merritt, who was the Nixon's Houston plan insider, he came on this show a couple of months ago now and discussed how Nixon had this message to the American people that was in a time capsule in the White House.
And that had an X factor in it.
So, you know, these X's kept showing up.
As a matter of fact, anytime I did really deep work, the X's started coming hard and heavy.
Now, ordinarily, as I've said, steganography works a little bit differently than something like cryptology, for example, where in cryptology, you know you're trying to crack a code and you know it's a code password, it's difficult to break, and you're going to have to go through all these things about it.
Steganography, you never even know that you're into the secrecy, you never even know that there's a code to break.
You're just sitting there in the middle of it and it's hidden in plain sight.
Because steganography is something that was adopted by these mystery schools a long time ago for moving information in a way that the public wouldn't be able to seize it or it couldn't be suppressed by the Catholic Church or whatever it would happen to be or by the authorities or by the Queen.
Now we're going to go through the steganography.
Of course, they adopted steganography in a very interesting way around the UFO file, which is what updates the whole thing and takes us into the 20th and 21st century.
Levels of secrecy and how that wall of secrecy was constructed.
You know, I can tell you at the heart of all the work that we do around dark journalism is secrecy.
And, you know, I remember sitting at the Secret Space Program conference with Catherine Austin Fitz and asking her, you know, what is it?
What's the point behind the secrecy?
And her answer was pretty direct it was that secrecy equals control.
And that's kind of the formula that we're going to need as we go forward here.
Of course, we've tied in things in this program.
That relates to President Trump and Trump's uncle, who worked very closely with a lot of the figures that we're going to talk about tonight, including Vannevar Bush.
And in fact, Trump's uncle comes up.
There's an episode called Tesla, Trump, and the Time Capsule, which we get such great feedback on this series generally.
And that episode in particular, people have sent me so many emails that I'm still catching up on about it.
But it is significant because Tesla's work comes right directly into the heart of this.
And we're going to find out tonight that someone who was considered on par with Tesla, John Keeley, that his work was going into this direction, and that the Theosophical Society, as I described in the Annie Bassant episode, grabbed that information for him after he died because they were trying to scandalize his heirs, and the establishment was.
Strange Fire And Rituals00:14:08
And the Theosophical Society was something Keeley was close to, and his business associate just shipped all that stuff.
Off to Annie Bassant.
And Annie Bassant is very important in this entire equation.
So I want everyone to keep that.
There's going to be a few names that you're really going to have to keep track of.
And Annie Bassant is particularly going to be important.
But let's start off with this idea of strange fire.
Because fire is at the heart of so many of these technologies that we're talking about and so many secret societies that have preserved the symbolism through the centuries so that we can kind of get an idea of what.
What is going on with the X?
Why is it hidden in these different government institutions, in these different departments, military, intelligence, and all the rest of it?
And why was it hidden through the ages in these secret societies and other power circles?
This is going to become the main question for us tonight.
And we're going to have a lot of help because there are people who were involved with the X who were also involved with the secret societies and.
Placing them together, bringing those two sides together, is going to give us all a much better vantage point to review all of this.
So, strange fire.
It's a term that comes right out of the Bible, and it's in Leviticus.
And it so happens there's a quote here right out of the Bible.
It comes up a few times, but one day, two of Aaron's sons, and this takes us into the kind of Moses Aaron period where there's a heck of a lot of magic going on.
Including parting Red Seas and changing snakes into staffs and snafs into snakes and making hail fall and hail of frogs and all the rest of it and turning the Nile red.
Let's say very unusual manifestations happening.
And there's a major religious aspect going on here.
But one day, two of Aaron's sons, Nadab and Abihu, came along and offered incense with strange fire.
So, strange here, they're saying from the Hebrew language is unauthorized, profane, or foreign.
So, in the kind of magic and the rituals that they were doing, they had a certain way of doing it.
So, these guys kind of come along and they're using strange fire.
Now, they are killed, and Moses explains it to Aaron why God had done such a harsh thing, and this is what God.
Says to Moses, Among those who approach me, I will show myself holy.
In the sight of the people, I will be honored.
So, the exact nature of the profane fire isn't known, but it is, it comes up a few times.
And there's something about them using this strange fire and it being an abomination in the eyes of God, which we can look at a few different ways, of course, because we're not looking at it in the Confines of just the biblical story.
God apparently was making a point that in dealing with this tabernacle, the sacrifices being offered at the altar are something that need to come from a particular source and they need to have that kind of purity established.
So that's one way.
Now, when we go into the New Testament, a similar thing happens.
And that's in Acts.
And it's during the time of the early church.
Husband and wife lie to Peter about some land given to the church, and they're judged with physical death.
Now, so they go into this whole thing, and again, we get this term strange fire and strange offerings.
This also comes up.
But if we take it out of the context of, we have kind of a mythical idea here, which is when you go to a certain point, You need to be using certain ingredients that have been purified after a certain way.
And so we can look at it as just the basic kind of okay, this is the religious thing.
They had certain types of incense.
Something about their offering wasn't quite pleasing in the eyes of the Lord.
This is the religious view of it.
But let's go a little bit deeper because we do know that when we get to things like the Ark of the Covenant and when we're talking about the tabernacle and all these things in these stories, we're looking at, you know, people have done books and books on this stuff, including Graham Hancock, about them being power stations, weapons, and their description is so elaborate.
And there's this kind of interface between the technology and the gods, as it were.
So they're using the technology of the Ark of the Covenant to communicate almost like a radio sound.
And, you know, instantly people trip off into ancient aliens and all that, but I don't.
Although I believe in all the off world civilizations visiting here, I don't think these stories are so rooted in ancient alien interaction.
Very unusual is going on, and that some of those visits and things that were happening off world were maybe more of like a sideshow distraction to some of the bigger things that were happening here.
And that takes us back into the Atlantean style technology.
We are in a very strange phase back there.
It's almost like when they give us hints like strange fire, it's the best explanation that we can get.
But as we move into different periods of time and we start seeing people using technology to communicate with outside sources, and technology can be anything from an actual sort of piece of equipment to,
I mean, certain types of technology could almost be like a Ouija board because that is an interface, certainly a grimoire, magic rituals, and this kind of ceremonial magic.
Enters into this strange fire thing too.
And there's very often these phrases that you have to go through it a certain way, and they who climb up some other way are thieves and robbers.
These are classic warnings against that type of approach, against those types of things, meaning that you can employ the very same technologies, the very same methods, this very same consciousness raising tools for totally different reasons and achieve totally different results.
And you're getting that if you don't follow a certain type of pattern, What's happening to us is we're looking at it and we're getting instructions from this tradition that's saying, don't offer strange fire.
And fire becomes absolutely important.
We have Prometheus fire, we have other references to fire in this regard.
But I want us to keep the theme of fire going as we go along here because we're going to find fire mixed together, neck and neck, with the X steganography as we go through some of the.
Hermetic aspects of this.
But we're going to come in in a different way on this one, which is that we're going to come in on the CERN side to understand how the technology aspect was preserved from the mystery schools into modern technology.
And that's where we're going to head.
So let's break into theosophy again.
What happens is, as I've been doing the research around the X steganography and what is exactly being used, it turns out that a major aspect Of CERN employs X technology.
And one of the things that they're very excited about and trading papers about right now is something that's based on a technology that was developed in the late 30s at the MIT lab.
And the three figures involved, there can be no doubt about it, are Vannevar Bush and Vannevar Bush Trump, Trump's uncle, that is, John Trump, who we did take on here in an episode, and a couple of very interesting people.
Who are actually brothers and have deep, ties to the Theosophical Society.
So I'm going to start with.
Yeah, so the brothers are the Variants, and I'm going to start with their teacher for a moment because his name, I do want everyone to keep in mind, is Fred Terman.
And he's absolutely a crucial figure because he.
Becomes their mentor.
But his mentor is Vannevar Bush.
And Vannevar Bush, we know, was the head of Raytheon for a while, who, by the way, developed the X technology that CERN's using.
And I'm going to get into that.
And there is Vannevar Bush with Truman and the president of Harvard.
Harvard, of course, becomes important in this regard also.
Vannevar Bush is well known to UFO buffs and people who've studied things like the secret documents of the MJ 12.
But over and over again, those documents would come up and show this incredible role that Vannevar Bush had in dealing with reverse engineering off world technologies, off world crafts, and things of this nature.
However, even for people who don't like to get into that aspect and who don't see MJ 12 information about Vannevar Bush as being significant or don't trust the provenance of the MJ 12 documents, it doesn't really matter because Wilbur Smith said, In 1950, he was a major Canadian government official.
Well, there is a program to examine all the UFO crashes and all the rest of it, and Vannevar Bush is the head of it.
So, whether you think that the MJ 12 documents got the idea from that declassified document, which came out in the late 60s, or you don't, then it kind of doesn't matter.
The fact is, on record, a major official has said this is what's happening, and that's all that we need to know for our purposes.
Now, So, we're going to start before we get into the Variants and Theosophy and how Theosophy's hold and vouchsafing of that technology, God was saved and kind of preserved it against from falling into the wrong hands.
Let's find out just a little bit about Terman, who again is the Varian Brothers' mentor.
And the Varian Brothers, we're going to get into, I will explain in depth who they are.
But all we need to know for now is that they developed this Kleistron specialized linear beam vacuum tube.
And that is the very same technology that's being utilized for HARP.
And it's going to come in very crucial here.
Okay, so Frederick Terman.
Frederick Terman is very often understood as the founder of Silicon Valley.
And he, just before World War II, decided to dedicate some of his unused land on the Stanford campus in Palo Alto to an industrial park, the first university owned industrial park in the world.
So, Silicon Valley really got its start from him and what he was doing over there.
Two of his graduate students, William Hewlett, David Packard, of course, Hewlett Packard, everyone knows who they are.
And Hewlett Packard's first customer was Walt Disney, who needed the electronic equipment to record sound for the film Fantasia.
Other companies moved nearby, and by the end of the war, the Stanford Industrial Park was thriving.
And today, of course, it's the very heart of the heartbeat of kind of Apple country.
So in 1956, when he heard that Shockley was starting up a new business and would pioneer a new field of semiconductors, Terminin did everything he could to lure Shockley to Palo Alto.
And so on.
Terman's father, Lewis, was the developer of the IQ test.
Okay, so how powerful is that?
How much of a tool is that used?
This guy was coming right at the very heart of the establishment, coming from the heart of the establishment.
And his father was a leading researcher into intelligence and the gifted.
Okay, now this is important because there was a whole program organized around different universities and searching out for the best talent.
And this was something that operated in a kind of stealth fashion, also.
They didn't broadcast it.
All over, but they were looking for special people to hook them up into either corporate government programs or technology programs.
In my opinion, based on some of the research that we've done on Elizabeth Britton andor Emma Britton and some of the incredible things that she told us relating to this Bulwer Lytton period, I believe they were also programs in place to scan for exceptionally gifted.
Fraudulent Business Partnerships00:06:24
Psychic students.
And I think that these things and the leaks that have come out about them give us a hint of what's really going on.
Every once in a while, you know, you hear people saying, Well, I'm so special and I was grabbed for this program or that one.
I can tell you for a fact that the programs can be real.
But a lot of people who are in those programs or have been in those types of programs, like a Kathy O'Brien type character, Their story, like it's much easier to confirm their details than these kind of fly by night people who just show up and say, Well, I was, you know, part of this program or part of this secret underground program.
It's hard sometimes because a lot of people just like to jump on that bandwagon.
But I've talked to people who participated in these programs, so they certainly exist.
Okay, so we have a kind of an idea of Frederick Terman.
He really created Silicon Valley, he's a major force behind the kind of Technological advances that we had there after World War II.
And before that, he was a major force at MIT.
And spectacularly, he, Vannevar Bush, being his mentor and also being John Trump's mentor, that puts all three of those together.
And he now is the mentor to the Varian brothers.
And the Varian brothers are very important people.
But let's start off with things that people don't really know about them.
Which is that they come from the most important wing of the Theosophical Society in Ireland.
So let's get into them a little bit before we go any further with Termin.
And I have to say that it seems to me that this is all because their dad was such a major figure in it.
So we'll start with their dad, his John Osborne variant.
Let's take a look at him.
Don't worry, we're only going to go deeper on these people.
So you're not going to lose.
Anything if you don't keep track of every little detail that's coming up here, but we have a habit of coming back again and again to the crucial important figures involved.
Osborne Varian, now he is an Irish American poet, he's actually quite well regarded in Ireland, and he's one of the early members of the Temple of the People.
This is a theosophist utopian community in Halcyon, California.
Absolutely crucial, and it's going to Serves such an important purpose to us getting to the heart of what the ex-seganography around the UFO file represents.
So keep Halcyon in mind.
That's a theosophical community.
Now, what did we learn in the Annie Besant episode relating to theosophy grabbing this ex-technology that John Keeley had developed?
In fact, they saved it because Annie Besant's words were, We can't have this going out.
You know, like, actually, if this hits the public now, we're not ready for it.
And these people will use it to basically destroy each other.
That was her take on it.
And she agreed to hide it.
Now, those are the accounts.
And in fact, Keeley's business partner, who was kind of on the run because they had decided after Keeley died under kind of unusual circumstances, they decided, well, look, we're going to take this guy and we're going to shake down his entire company.
We're going to call him a fraud.
We're going to say, Keeley, And his airships were a fraud because Keeley had these claims about developing these airships that would go 500 miles per hour.
And it is rather fascinating that he demonstrated this for the military.
And so, you know, it's noted that he did these things.
And John Astor, who was a major New York wheeler dealer, had backed him to the tune of $5 million back then in 1897.
I mean, think of what that kind of money was worth.
So, certainly, Keeley was a major figure and he was working along.
A type of Tesla line.
He had developed these coils, but he was working with this sort of etheric energy to power these incredibly dynamic flying machines.
So we never got a full look at exactly what he was doing.
And as it turned out, when he died, there was a big scuffle there, and they really wanted to say, oh, this is all a hoax and let's clamp it up and we'll destroy the business partner and leave the wife out in the cold and all the rest of it.
So the business partner takes it upon himself.
And he gets back to Boston.
And by the way, most of this stuff takes place in Boston.
And I pointed this out to Olivia the other day, which is, you know, we are living here in Boston in the very hub and the heart of the wall of secrecy development around the ex steganography and the UFO file because all of these people, Vannevar Bush, the Varians, it's all Boston, which is amazing to me because Boston was such the heart and the center at that point.
And this is where all these things kind of moved through.
So we have to keep that in mind because Boston becomes the incredible launching ground for developing this X technology.
Now, so the point was that technology, by the time Keeley's business partner got back to the factory, he called in all the employees and he said, box this stuff up as fast as you can.
I'm shipping it out on a boat.
And according to all accounts, he shipped it to Annie Besant, who had this decision to make about it.
What should I do?
And she decided, To vouchsafe the technology, keep it for when the culture had advanced enough to be able to handle this kind of intense move forward technologically.
So, just a fascinating story.
But it gets even more hardcore because now we're talking about the Varians.
And the Varians developed the technology that's running CERN.
And that is the X technology.
In fact, they call it that.
So let's get into how that works.
So let's start with their dad, John Osborne Varian.
Varian Brothers Head Start00:11:01
As I was saying, he's an Irish American poet.
His sons, Russell and Sigurd Varian, became notable inventors in Manon to found Varian Associates, which had incredible impact on things, on everything from TV tubes.
To radar.
So, born in Ireland, Varian and his wife became top members of the Theosophical Society in Dublin.
Now, Ireland was very important as a development center for theosophy because in England they did, in fact, encounter a lot of pushback.
And that's why they went off to India and all the rest of it.
But they looked at Ireland as a possible, like a few places, Ireland and Australia, as places that could pick up.
And really run with developing the society.
So, Varian and his wife became some of the biggest members, really.
And the people that they're associated with are what they call the esoteric level of the Theosophical Society, the absolutely top rung of those people and that group.
So, they immigrated from Ireland to the United States and they settled first in New York and then they became involved with the Theosophical Group.
And this is a spinoff of Judges.
Theosophical group, but it's William Dower, and they all move and develop this incredible kind of utopian Halcyon community up there.
And it's very much like a commune.
I mean, they're all kind of living for each other, and they all have the same farm, live off the same thing.
It's quite fascinating.
And Halcyon was a utopian community that included a sanatorium for the treatment of liquor, morphine, and opium addiction.
So they're kind of advanced, if you think about it in this way.
They have their own rehab center way before anybody.
And this is the Betty Ford Clinic some 60 years before.
And the community had elements of socialism and some communal property.
John Varian became a leader in the Temple of the People.
This is also interesting because it's the Theosophical Society, and inside of it, there's something called the Temple of the People.
So they're getting, they're harkening back again this temple.
You know, we're getting into that mystery school idea, the older civilizations.
He goes through all this, and one of his good friends is someone named George Russell.
And George Russell will be known to people who understand theosophy as A.E.
And A.E. is one of the most influential theosophists that ever happened.
And he was a really important painter and poet.
One of the things he's very well known for is painting a spirit portrait of Helena Blavatsky for how she really appeared on the astral plane.
And I have that here.
It is just a mind blur.
Let's take a look at this.
So, that is Blavatsky's true form on the astral plane, according to George Russell.
But George Russell did some very interesting kind of clairvoyant spiritual voyages and all the rest.
But the important thing for us here is that George Russell is the inspiration for John Varian to call his son Russell Varian.
So, really, quite, you know.
Quite close in that sense.
When you think about who you're going to name your kid after, you have to have an incredibly close relationship going on there.
So let's get into a little bit about these brothers.
They are so influential.
This is Russell and Sigurd Varian, sort of the original geeks of Silicon Valley, and they accomplished incredible things.
But one of the things that they were particularly sort of known for is this development of this.
Very interesting low microwave technology, and we're going to get into exactly what kind of role that played.
I do feel like their background is particularly important, so I'm going to spend a little bit of time here telling us a little more about who they are because what they developed goes to the heart of CERN and goes to the heart of the UFO file.
And we're going to see just how that all plays together.
So, how are we doing over there, Olivia?
Doing great.
Okay, good.
It's a great crowd so far tonight, hard to keep up.
Yeah, I can imagine, geez.
I never know how you do it in the first place, but you're dynamic.
It's that every little thing she does is magic, right, everyone?
So it is great to have everyone here.
And of course, Fridays generally 7 30 or 7, depending on how the day is going.
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And we do have some incredible guests coming up, as well as the X show, which is the 10th version, which I'm setting up here tonight.
When we do episode 10, that's a two parter.
It's going to include some real hardcore information, but the real setup for that information is here.
So listen close.
And I want everyone to take real good note of these names Russell and Sigurd.
I'm calling him Sigurd.
It might be Sigurd, but it's Varian.
Do you want to take a crack at that, Olivia?
It's S I G U R D.
I go with this, sir.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
But they're both very important people because they really.
Under the kind of tutelage of the group, as we were talking about, Terman, Vannevar Bush, and Trump, they are creating this incredible new technology.
Now, Bush, remember, was Terman's mentor, but that's the 1920s.
These guys are in the 30s, and Terman's their mentor.
So here's this tight connection directly.
Vannevar Bush, We have John Trump with Vannevar Bush.
We have Terman, who is the man who founded Silicon Valley.
And then he is their mentor.
Let's remember that connection.
It's as tight as can be.
But who are they connected to?
They're tight with the Theosophical Society, who, as I described, helped save Keeley's inventions.
Is everybody on board?
I know it's not easy, but we're getting close.
When we zero in on this, by the end of the episode, we really have made a dent in the wall of secrecy.
And it's going to be crucial.
And we are going to be able to link it back and go back into this relationship.
That John Dee had with Queen Elizabeth.
It all does link up, and I will show you how.
So, interesting, just a little side note for anyone who's interested, which is that Ansel Adams was a close friend of the Varian family.
I don't know if Adams was known as a theosophist, but he's incredibly close to these people, and they have all these great photographs, and they're all by Ansel Adams, the fathers and the sons, so just quite remarkable.
Okay, so.
Russell and Sigurd were brothers who founded one of the earliest high tech companies in Silicon Valley.
Of course, we know they had incredibly powerful Theosophical parents who founded the utopian community, Halcyon, California, as I just was speaking about.
But here's what's crucial the brothers showed an early interest in electricity, and after independently establishing careers in electronics and aviation, they came together to invent the Klystron.
Okay.
Keep that name in mind also, because when we get to the CERN technology, that's what it's going to be using.
Now, the Klystrin became a critical component of radar, telecommunications, and other microwave technologies.
In 1948, they founded Varian Associates, okay, to market the Klystrin and other inventions.
The company became the first move into Stanford Industrial Park.
That gets us into Silicon Valley.
So, that's the birthplace of Silicon Valley.
Both brothers were noted for their progressive political views.
Russell is a lifelong supporter of the Sierra Club, and his brother founded a housing cooperative.
Very advanced people.
They were members of the Theosophical Society, and they were leaders of this utopian community.
They were hoping to help with the whole defensive posture of the United States by developing this tech.
Now, what's funny is that this story is going to stumble right into the heart of the Roswell story.
I kid you not.
So, we're in for a wild ride here, and we're just getting started.
So, it's going to get pretty wild.
In any case, a little more reading just to give us a foundation.
John Varian became a leader at the Temple of the People in Halcyon.
Okay, so that's their dad.
And their mom was, you know, just very supportive.
She was helping to build the community up.
And they sound like remarkable people, by the way.
I'm not trying to cast them in any kind of suspicious light.
In fact, I think they may have saved something, I think they may have been entrusted with the technology.
From Keeley through to Annie Besant directly to them.
And I'll explain how I think that works because, you know, for me, the fact that they come out all advanced out of the box, being theosophists, suddenly they go right into school, they're amazing at electronics.
It seems to me they had a head start somewhere.
All three boys exhibited an early fascination with electricity, included pranks such as attaching electrical outlets to bed springs and doorknobs to give visitors minor electric shocks.
I mean, you know, Really obsessed with electricity here.
Russell was named in honor of the poet A.E. That's George Russell.
They were very close.
Okay, let's get on with it.
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Now, what's fascinating, I think, about them is a couple of things.
I'm going to fast forward to the end of their lives for a moment, which is just as Kennedy is getting into office, they both die very mysteriously.
I had a theory about this when I was looking at their work.
I was thinking to myself, We know about Kennedy, and we know so much about his relationship with Forrestal.
So, he's a deep one on the UFO file.
He understands what's going on there.
And as he gets closer to office and as they're deciding in the deep state what's going to happen with this technology, and they're already having tussles back and forth with Eisenhower, as we've heard about from the Cooper whistleblower, which I think is particularly important, who was saying that Nixon was in charge of something called CIA Blue Book, which was the real stories on the real crashes and the real things that were happening with the.
Somebody's got something up there about CW Ledbetter.
Make sure, let's make sure that we ask that one next time.
Absolutely.
But what's interesting for me is that Kennedy gets in and from James Forrestal, he knows about the UFO file and he shows a very kind of adamant stance towards it, trying to get that power back from the CIA, trying to get the deep state to kind of surrender control over the UFO secrecy.
And of course, before the end of his life, trying to get us to Share the UFO file with the Soviets, which, as we learned in discussions with Douglas Caddy, Howard Hunt said that was the reason he was assassinated, actually.
It wasn't all these other things.
It was because he wanted to share a most important national security secret with an enemy, the Soviet Union.
And Caddy asked Hunt what was the secret, and Hunt answered the UFO file, basically the alien presence.
So that helps us, I think, get an idea of the power of this technology.
But I found it ironic that, you know, through strange circumstances like plane crashes and stuff, they died right as JFK gets into office, you know, one a little before and one right as Kennedy gets in.
So I found that very, let's say, an unusual fact to keep in note.
Okay.
Sigurd was interested in all weather navigation systems and suggested to Russell that together they could create a radio based technology using microwaves.
It's very important that could detect airplanes at night or in clouds.
That is, they're going to be able to create this certain type of radio radar that can spot planes under difficult circumstances.
Now, interestingly enough, keep in mind if I can spot a plane, I can spot other objects too, other flying objects.
And let's keep in mind what the FBI agents were telling John Trump, which is in my Tesla, Trump, and the time capsule episode.
They were saying to him, We think that Tesla has left behind some information about this death ray that can affect, quote, Flying objects anywhere in the world from a remote location.
That was what they were looking for.
That's what they thought they would find.
And they didn't, by the way, according to the official word of Trump and the FBI.
So, what's interesting, they want to develop this device that can determine the location and direction of an airplane.
So, they go through these different models and all the rest of it.
So, I'll skip through all that.
In any case, the Klystrom is something that.
They build the first prototype of it's 1937.
The Kleistron, remember, again, when we fast forward, is going to be the technology that becomes the dynamic.
You know, it's with CERN, with the Hadron Collider, it becomes the kind of foundation of how they get the Hadron Collider to have this incredible results.
So let's just keep that in mind, and I'll explain that and I'll read exactly from the CERN white paper on that.
Okay, so let's trek a little bit here with the Varian brothers.
Who are quite fascinating and have that incredible theosophical background, and now have landed themselves in the middle of such UFO luminaries as Vannevar Bush, who, as we know, was in charge of the UFO file for the U.S. government and reported directly at first to FDR and then to Truman and then to Eisenhower.
Okay, so August 1937, the Kleistron, a microwave tube, was developed.
And so Sperry.
Gyroscope gave the Varian brothers and Hanson a contract to do further work.
The Varians did not know that the British were also working on early radar technology, which by then could even detect submarines.
So that was becoming more and more important, actually.
So it could not be made light enough to use an airplane.
So this was the main issue behind what they already had versus what these guys came up with.
So thereafter, Clystron equipment was set up in Boston.
Okay, there's Boston again, 1939, and with it, successful blind landing tests of airplanes were completed.
The variants moved to the East Coast in 1940 to Boston to work for Sperry Gyroscope, where wartime developments of the microwave tube continued, though little known of their work in this period because they were presumably working on classified projects.
Yes, in fact, let's keep that in mind.
The vacuum tube, they're saying, came out of some of this work.
The US and Britain were able to use this technology to create radar equipment light and compact enough to fit into aircraft, which was credited with helping the Allies win the war.
We can see how important this was.
But when the Varian brothers disappear for a couple years, in fact, they go into something called the Rad Lab, which came right out of MIT.
And the Rad Lab is where they do work on X projects.
It was a cover name, Radiation Lab, just trying to pretend and set up saying, well, we're studying radiation and all the rest of it, just like these other schools do and other technical institutes.
In fact, it was something completely different.
So the Kleistron technology is still being used in 1993 for UHF television.
So this is how they were doing UHF.
And what's fascinating about it is it's an incredible.
Low wave development technology.
It's interesting how incredibly effective it is.
We're going to get into it.
But they used it for UHF.
Those of you among the television audience who are a little older will understand yes, we all went through UHF television as opposed to VHF television.
Okay, each brother developed other inventions, nuclear magnetic resonance, and all the rest of it.
So, really advanced stuff we're talking about here.
And they developed something called Varian Associates, which is credited.
With developing small linear accelerators.
And of course, particle acceleration is what CERN does.
And that's how they found or attempted to find the God particle.
And we're going to get into exactly what CERN is and what the Hadron Collider is.
But we have to understand that the Varian Associates, these two brothers, developed the technology for particle accelerators, particle colliders.
This is what they did.
And the foundation of it was this Clystron.
Again, They wanted to set up the company to commercialize the Klystrin.
That's what it was all about.
So, the small linear accelerators would generate photons for external beam radiation therapy.
They were also interested in nuclear magnetic resonance technology.
So they went really hardcore with all this.
And as it turned out, they were the ones who became sort of the main developers of that technology and all the stuff that the Hadron Collider is using now to smash those particles together, which we know is very controversial because of the types of effects that are happening.
So, I'm going to get back to the Varians, but I think what we understand fundamentally about them in bullet points is this.
The Varian brothers are the offspring of the top esoteric level of theosophy in Dublin.
They came here to America, and their parents helped form a utopian theosophical community called Halcyon.
And they grew up in that environment.
And as I explained earlier, Annie Besant of Theosophy was in possession of John Keeley's technology.
Now, Keeley's technology was certainly in an unusual area of airships.
It was also resonance, it was part of it, coils, energy development.
It was very incredibly edgy stuff, which is why Astor in New York was very interested in it and why it was so hushed up and slammed down as soon as he died.
So, Theosophy holding the secret and kind of vouchsafing the technology over time is crucial because this was the decision that Besant made.
And I believe what's happening is these guys are inheriting the technology because they come out and they make the Klystron and they're doing particle accelerators.
There's good evidence that they worked on the Manhattan Project because the group, the RAD group at MIT that they were associated with, became part of that classification system.
When they go off the radar, however, People assume, well, maybe they were working on classified projects that had to do with the atomic bomb, but that doesn't look like their specialty by any stretch of the imagination.
My impression is that what we were looking at is a special technology that they developed, and that technology is called X.
And I'm going to read you briefly here about what that X is all about.
Let's take a quick look at one of these particle accelerators and what it can do.
By the way, that's their dad, the Theosophist.
John Varian, a crucial figure in theosophy from Ireland, of course, and there's Russell and Sigurd Varian.
Russell, named after George Russell, who did the famous Blavatsky painting, and was, you know, kind of like it's interesting because Yeats, the poet, he joined the Golden Dawn and went in that direction.
Russell was the same ilk, but he became an incredible Theosophical activist.
So, 400 kW Klystron used for spacecraft communications in Canberra Deep Space Communications Complex.
This is a space in storage from Australia.
This was a classified photo for a while.
I'm not sure why, but it's declassified now.
So, let's get a look at this Klystron.
It looks.
That's sort of like a small particle accelerator that they use for communication.
Just fascinating.
And this one at the facility in Australia.
Of course, Australia, as we've outlined over the last eight episodes of the X series, Pine Gap being the very heart of the X redevelopment technology.
And the link there to Prospero is going to come in very important when we go into John Dee, which we're going to do in a moment here.
But before we do that, let's.
I promised you we would look at the X technology, and that's what we're going to do.
And it's extensive.
Okay.
The stuff is absolutely incredible.
First of all, there's the root of the work that they did.
That is the original Varian tube.
It was a microwave conductor.
And this is their original invention there, 1938.
Okay.
The X technology is called X band, and X band radar is how the Varian brothers brought all of this technology together.
That technology is used in CERN, in HARP, in various arrays.
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And by the way, the company that's most famous for using it now and has taken it on board as a major project is called Raytheon, and the former director of Raytheon was Vannevar Bush.
So, the X technology has been moving.
It's been moving through these companies on a corporate level, and it's been moving through the secret societies also.
And we have the corporate government nexus going back and forth and hiding this stuff and developing the wall of secrecy.
But when you get to the UFO file in this regard, the secrecy around the UFO file relates to technology that we see, these craft hovering, so on.
And then we also assume that it relates to.
The presence of off world beings who are involved in this, and possibly even our relations with these off world civilizations.
However, what's pertinent, really, what comes to the very heart of it is that the secrecy has cost us democratic exercise of our government.
If you consider the Kennedy assassination, and if you go deeper than that, it's costing us unconstitutional, complete suppression of records.
And denial of different types of realities.
And now we've even seen agencies like the CIA, which had a major role in covering up the UFO presence, now trying to come out and peddle this weird version through the TTSA of some kind of hip pop version of UFO disclosure of, oh, there's a threat out there, but we're going to get it.
All we need is more funding from the government.
Hey, what's the matter?
Didn't the 21 missing trillions from the black budget, isn't that enough money on budget that we have to give you now?
I don't think so.
So we do see that this stuff.
As we, you and I travel through these centuries about it, but there's no question for me that as we look at the situation here in early May of 2018, the X is running everything.
And that secrecy around the UFO file is the heart of the X steganography.
So we're right at the pivotal point of the whole thing, which is fascinating because while we have so many people around independent media screaming their heads off about Comey or Trump and all these things.
I know individually these things are important, but I think getting to the heart of what the secrecy is all about has to be the crucial aspect when you get right down to it, because then we can see through these figures and their fears to understand the things that they're dealing with.
This becomes incredibly crucial, I think, if we're going to get anywhere.
How are we doing over there, Olivia?
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Fantastic.
Okay.
You looked over this way.
You gave me one of those looks like maybe you had something on your mind.
I forgot.
Okay, good.
And it's great to have everyone here.
Wow.
I'll remember to shout out to everyone.
At the end, too, because we have some really terrific people with us tonight.
And it's great to have you all here.
Again, you're watching Dark Journalist.
And what I'm saying, it's a bold statement now, but I know that here, you and I tonight are achieving the first real ripple against that wall of secrecy.
It's the first real kind of breakdown of that secrecy because I have a pretty good.
Estimation, a pretty good hunch that we were not meant to find this.
And the fact that we have, I think, is absolutely crucial.
And there have been signs, which is one of the reasons why I led with D instead of the X band technology, because I did not want this show to get shut down, because this is crucial transmission.
So let's keep going.
Okay, X band radar, world's largest X band radar.
Let's take a look at it.
Gee, it looks a heck of a lot like Pine Gap, doesn't it?
Let's read a little bit about it.
Raytheon's nine story high X band radar, the world's largest X band radar, sea based X band platform, sits and stands on 250 feet high and displaces more than 50,000 tons.
It consists of a semi submersible oil production platform topped with an XBR.
XBR is the primary payload of the semi submersible platform, supporting the ground based mid course defense phase of Missile Defense Agency Ballistic Missile Defense System.
So, this thing is quite remarkable.
It's multi purpose, and also you have this kind of oil sideshow that they can use it for that.
But its main function is this radar.
The SBX's floating platform, a modified oil drilling vessel, that's interesting, was designed for exceptional stability in high winds and storms, measuring 240 feet wide, 390 feet long.
So, it's an incredible structure.
The vessel includes a power plant, bridge, and control rooms, living quarters, storage area.
And enough floor space and infrastructure to support the X band radar.
Well, the Klystrom technology supports CERN.
What is the X band radar?
Well, we're going to find those things get closer and closer.
They're the exact same thing, and I'll show you how.
It consists of thousands of elements driven by transmit receive modules.
The X band radar, they provide the full fire control sensor functions at ground based mid course defense systems.
Okay, that gives us kind of the basic things.
Now, strangely enough, it's Boeing.
That developed it, even though it's a Raytheon project.
And what I found out is that recently Boeing has a new address in Australia, and you'll never guess where it is.
Well, it's right in Alice Springs.
How do you like that?
I guess someone should go over there and kind of knock on their door and say, Hey, it's nice to meet you, neighbor.
Boeing, what are you doing here?
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I'd love to hear about that.
Okay, so remember again that this technology that was vouchsafed through the Theosophists is the X technology.
Remember that.
This is Steiner when he was a theosophist before he became an anthroposophist, and that's him with Annie Besant.
They are a crucial part of this story, and I want you to keep them in mind as we go because, again, if it wasn't for Theosophy developing the Varian brothers and for giving them the leap, then we probably wouldn't have this version of the X technology.
There is an incredible confluence of forces when you're thinking about Vannevar Bush, who is the national science director for the United States.
His incredible career at Raytheon and MIT, and then him being really the deep state go to man, he's the top man on the science part for the UFO file.
There's no doubt about it.
That's why he shows up in the MJ 12 documents.
And there's so many real government documents, hardcore, if you don't accept the MJ 12, as many people do accept them, and they seem mostly legitimate.
Then we get into the situation where we're looking at a dynamic group of people, John Trump, who got it called in.
Right after the Trump papers, the Trump dies and they want his papers.
Who do they call?
Well, they call Vanover Bush and they say, Who should we get to do this?
And he says, Get Trump.
Trump's the one who comes over and does it.
Okay, so Bush is Trump's mentor.
Vanover Bush is Trump's mentor.
John Trump is Trump's uncle, just to keep track of all this, who has to go through Tesla's papers.
And what are they looking for?
The FBI says, The FBI says, Well, it's apparently some kind of array that takes down flying objects.
Interestingly enough, three years later, they'll use the term unidentified flying objects to say that's what flying saucers are.
So these things, you know, they're there.
We don't have to guess very much.
They are there.
They've been stealth archives because they haven't been connected, but I think we're doing a pretty good job now.
Okay.
X band satellite communications.
Just a quick little piece of this to tie it together.
X band satellite communication is widely used by military forces for beyond line of sight communications.
X band is used because it provides a compromise between the characteristics of different frequency bands, which is particularly suited to the needs of military users.
It's straight up a military operation.
However, there were certain X band satellite communications.
That's how we got UHF, as we were reading earlier.
Okay.
Characteristics include interference and rain resilience.
This is very important.
The rain resilience, I had mentioned that in a previous episode.
That some documents had come out that had been declassified that showed that the code name for Pine Gap was Merino, which is a type of sheep, a hybrid sheep, and just the most incredible sheep anywhere.
And we went round and round about why they would use that name.
And I think we came to some pretty good conclusions, especially when you get into hybridizing technology.
I didn't get into the hybridizing human part.
But what's interesting is if you go then afterwards and you look at Edward Snowden's leaky.
Documents that leaked this program called X Keyscore that Glenn Greenwald leaked after Snowden gave it to him.
It's very interesting because X Keyscore was all about dining in on anybody's conversation at any time, which was a very significant thrust of that.
But one of the things that came out in there was that they were using the term all in caps rainfall for Pine Gap.
And that was another one where I was like, what is this all about?
Usually, these names have the significance if you can interpret it.
Well, here, if the X technology is really running the show, here they're saying one of the best things that it has is it's not subject to rain interference.
And rain can be absolutely, you know, can mess up radar and all the rest of it.
Now, one of the things that I mentioned earlier is that the Roswell incident, everyone has always said, well, you know, there was that crash that happened, but one of the things that May have kind of precipitated the entire event is that they were using this new radar system.
But people always assume, in the case of Roswell, that the crash happened because of the ship, you know, them having problems with it, that it wasn't intentional, it was an accident, and then that we went to recover the accident.
But let's look at this a little bit differently.
If the government were looking into, and the military were looking into, getting their hands on some of these flying disks that were being reported after all, Oh, before, I mean, the June before the Roswell incident, we have Kenneth Arnold's incredible report about the flying saucers.
That's where we got the term.
But if they're saying to themselves, you know, and there were all these crashes, this incredible crash that we've heard about and done a show about in 1941, and that involves Roosevelt and it happens in Missouri.
But one of the important things for us to keep in mind is they may have been saying, To themselves, we need to find a way to figure out what those things are.
And the best way to do that is to get one of them.
Now, when we're thinking about all this radar work that they're doing, one of the things that they pointed out in the classified programs that these brothers were working on, which I found very fascinating, was that it was about trying to get these kamikaze planes before they hit anything.
So the kamikazes, they would in fact fly under the radar.
And they would dive into ships and all the rest of it.
And this is the nature of that kind of warfare that they were pulling on the Japanese side at the time, which is absolutely crazy.
But the Varians, one of their original thrusts in working on this classified program is let's get this radar going so we can see these low flying objects that are coming in, in this case, planes that are kamikaze.
But let's suppose after a few years that technology was used and said, hmm, we have these things flying around, we had these Foo Fighters during the war.
These crafts that are demonstrating all this stuff.
Let's get our hands on it.
It's an advanced weapon.
Maybe they're thinking it's off world at that point.
Maybe they know that it is.
In any case, it's a very plausible thing for them to develop a radar device to try to pull this thing down.
Now, radar is usually for scanning, but did they use it for another purpose?
So we always think about this Roswell case and we go back and think, hmm, you know, this UFO had problems and crashed and then we went and retrieved it.
Well, maybe it's not like that.
Maybe we took it down.
And then went and retrieved it after the fact.
I want us to keep that in mind as we go here because the UFO file always weaves in and out of the X technology.
They're, they kind of, you know, the X being the steganography for the UFO file, it becomes the question are they the same thing or are they both referencing the same effect?
And that's what we're getting to here, which is there's an effect that happens based on the X and.
And the UFO file that has a certain type of technology that creates this effect, but there's also this whole history of this effect through the secret schools, through the mystery schools, and through history.
And even through characters like John Dee and all the rest of it, as we'll see, the X comes in crucial when they are doing this interface dance of alchemy and contacting the spirits.
So let's keep our minds on the radar aspect.
Radar, radar, radar.
Absolutely crucial.
Okay, so we're going to keep going on what this X is.
So I don't want to bore you with too many details about the X, but I do think the rain resilience part, I'm going to go into this a little bit.
X band is below those frequencies which are severely affected by rain fade.
Remember the name rainfall was the kind of inside CIA name for Pine Gap?
Keep that in mind.
Therefore, X band provides extremely good rain resilience, unlike higher frequencies such as KU, which are also used for satellite communication.
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This allows extremely high link availability.
Okay, X band satellites typically have at least four separations between satellites.
Therefore, there's less chance of adjacent satellite interference.
Okay, we get the idea.
Maritime coverage.
X band satellites are able to support users in remote areas with little or no infrastructure.
And in mid ocean, away from land and shipping lanes.
So the satellites basically take the place of infrastructure.
And these are so advanced that what's fascinating is they're talking about them here in terms of what they can do on the ground.
Strangely enough, the X band is what's used for deep space communication.
Remember the particle accelerator that I showed you earlier?
Well, that's used for deep space communications.
So, what's going on here, really?
Okay, so where these guys came out of, I just want to touch on it so you remember what it is.
I called it the Rad Lab, the Radiation Laboratory.
This is where the variants came out of.
And, you know, remember that I've put the variants together with Vannevar Bush and John Trump, all in the same MIT advanced group.
Commonly called the Rad Lab, it was a microwave and radar research laboratory located at MIT.
That's about 10 minutes in that direction here.
And, In Cambridge, Massachusetts, it was first created in October 1940 and operated until 1945 when its functions were dispersed to industry.
That is, the technologies moved into corporate hands.
So it's no longer trackable through government FOIA type requests.
When its functions were dispersed to industry, okay, the use of microwaves for various radar and radar uses was highly desired before the war, World War II.
But existing microwave devices like the Klystron were far too low powered to be useful.
Alfred Loomis, a millionaire and physicist who headed his own private laboratory, organized the Microwave Committee to consider these devices and look for improvements, and improvements they got.
By the way, Winston Churchill organized what became the TISAR admission to introduce US researchers to several new technologies in the UK.
Among these was the cavity magnetron, a leap forward in the creation of microwaves.
So, we have to get into what they were getting into because it seems to trail off after the war.
Where did it go?
It goes into the UFO file.
At its peak, the Rad Lab employed 4,000 at MIT.
That's a lot of people.
You're doing a lot there.
That's Manhattan Project level.
Designed half of all radar systems used during the war.
Okay, so pretty powerful outlet, incredibly well financed, et cetera.
The name Radiation Laboratory, selected by Loomis when he selected the building for it on the MIT campus, was intentionally deceptive.
Now, here's a little bit of steganography here, albeit obliquely correct in that radar uses.
Radiation in a portion of the electromagnetic spectrum.
It was chosen to imply the laboratory's mission was similar to that of the radiation laboratory at Berkeley, that it employed scientists to work on nuclear physics research.
At the time, nuclear physics was regarded as relatively theoretical and inapplicable to military equipment.
What they're basically saying is that they gave it this name so that it wouldn't be a target for spies and that they wouldn't be looking at it that way.
What's interesting, though, is The way that I'm looking at it is that that wasn't the reason, that they did not want anyone to know about the research that they were doing because it was crisscrossing with the UFO file.
It was about to.
So the Office of Scientific Research and Development comes up here, and that was administered by Vannevar Bush, who reported directly to Roosevelt.
So the radiation laboratory goes to Bush.
They say, Here's all our stuff.
And he goes directly to Roosevelt and says, This is what these guys have.
So.
As a result, they had almost unlimited funding and unlimited access to resources, with the RAD Lab receiving a large share for radar research and development.
In 1942, the Manhattan Project absorbed a number of the RAD Lab physicists into Los Alamos and Lawrence's facility at Berkeley.
This was made simpler by Lawrence and Loomis being involved in all these projects.
In other words, they're using their best people for the Manhattan Project, but they've also been working on this other thing.
That other thing becomes absolutely crucial in a moment here.
A radically different type of antenna for X band systems was invented by Luis Alvarez and used in three new systems and early warning systems and all the rest of it.
The most ambitious RadLab effort with long term significance was Project Cadillac, led by Jerome Weissner.
The project involved high power radar carried in a pod under a TBM Avenger aircraft.
This is where I think that they used it for detection of UFOs and UFO recon, I think.
Becomes the crucial unspoken part of the research that's going on here.
What they say basically the objective was an airborne early warning system and control system, providing the U.S. Navy with surveillance capability to detect low flying enemy aircraft.
The project was initiated at a low level in mid 42 with the advent of the Japanese kamikaze threats.
Okay, so we're getting an idea there that they're looking at ways of when things get off radar, how can we detect them?
The impression that I'm getting is that we're looking directly at a UFO recon, which will again come up when Walter Dornberger is running Blue Gemini in the early 60s.
And Kennedy says to him, What's going on here? and sends over McNamara.
And McNamara says, The way I look at it, who's the defense secretary under Kennedy, Robert McNamara, he says, The way I look at it, you've got two space programs here.
You've got a regular national program and this other secret one.
That's the first reference on paper.
To a secret space program of any kind, or even the possibility of something like that happening.
That's 1962.
So there's no question about it.
So, X band, now we've identified with this microwave technology.
Well, what is its main function according to the traditional textbooks on it?
Portions of the X band are assigned by the International Telecommunications Unit exclusively for deep space telecommunications.
That's fascinating.
So, here we have the Klystron, which we know is hardcore with the CERN, and I'm going to read the CERN white paper of just the kind of outline briefly for you.
So, we're getting to the Klystron being a crucial part of the X technology running CERN, and then the X band being used exclusively for deep space telecommunications.
So, NASA's deep space network and facilities are located in Canberra, Australia.
So, you know, we're in the ballpark here.
We've kind of come into what they're working on, what it was all about, and the Theosophical reference and the theosophical groups being a part of bringing that technology is absolutely fascinating because we're aware of the fact that Annie Bassant hid Keeley's technology, and we're also aware of the fact that the mystery schools know all about this ex steganography.
I believe that the government has adopted this steganography based on these mystery schools.
Not that they're so much in cahoots, but that they know where to go to who to imitate.
Let's put it that way.
Notable deep space probe programs have employed X band communications, including the Viking, Mars landers, Voyager mission to Jupiter, Saturn, the Galileo Jupiter orbiter.
Okay, all the important ones.
They all use the X band.
The X band comes from all of this Kleistrum work that these brothers were doing.
Okay, let's get a look at how the X band is used with CERN.
This is basically, it's kind of like the regular newspaper at CERN about developments there with the colliders and all the rest of it.
And I'm going to try to condense this all.
In the next 20 minutes, let's see if I can do it.
Let's just take a quick look at what this is.
That's the CERN Courier talking about what the high-gradient X-band technology from TEV colliders to light sources and more.
Technologies developed for the compact linear collider.
We've seen what the Varian brothers developed for the deep space communications that they have now.
And all that comes from.
The Klystrom that those brothers developed.
I'm going to read briefly here.
And the site is called ResearchGate.
CERN X is the inside white paper.
A new Klystrom based X band RF power source operating at such and such gigahertz has been installed and started to be commissioned at CERN in collaboration with CEA.
The system comprises a solid state high voltage modulator XL5, Klystrin developed by SLAC, and so on and so forth.
Moving down.
Basically, the new CERNX manned power source presented in this paper was built to provide the RF power and infrastructure on condition they verify the RF performance of newly developed RF structures.
So they go through this whole thing and then they give us the actual formula that Klystrin is working on and show it how the It basically helps this particle accelerator process and all the rest of it.
So, and in the middle of it is something called the 3DB hybrid, which is hilarious when you think about what we were talking about with the merino sheep.
So, there's no question about it that now the X band, the Kleistron technology, and the Varian brothers are fueling the deep space communications and they're fueling the work at CERN, even though they developed most of their work from the late 30s through the 60s and 70s.
You know, so that stuff is based on those innovations.
Strangely enough, the Clystron, as they showed, was developed in 1938.
So, you know, the advanced aspect of the short band microwave technology cuts right through to the UFO file, as we see.
And the X aspect becomes easier and easier to spot why they're using it, because somehow over and over again it's related to.
The UFO file and it's related.
They're using this ex steganography whenever they get around this advanced technology.
And again, I want to point out that it might not just be that, oh, hey, we've got an advanced spacecraft that came here from another system, it crashed, and we can study it.
Blacksmiths And Tempest00:10:15
That's great.
That's one type of interpretation of the basic facts on the ground.
But there may be an effect when those ships come here, when those things break through, when we are studying them that.
It's the effect that gets the ex steganography going.
It's the effect, in fact, that is tracked through these different things and warned about in some of the mystery schools, like when Steiner is talking about Atlantis and saying, well, at a certain point, the mystery schools had to be guided to keep the information suppressed because they had gotten to such a point where they destroyed Atlantis.
And, you know, it's quite fascinating when you look at the whole kind of panorama and get the whole view.
But now let's think about something which is what's going on in the ground in Pine Gap and how does that relate?
Well, I had introduced the concept that Prospero's Tempest, Shakespeare's character Prospero in The Tempest, gives us the name Pine Gap.
And actually, I went back and checked through some books that dealt with trees in the 19th century and the 18th century, and they refer back to Pine Gap.
Because they're talking about how this term in the Tempest that Ariel is caught there and he's in the gap of the pine.
So Ariel becomes very important.
But if anyone has any doubts that Pine Gap was named after, you know, I've gone extensively into why Pine Gap was named after Prospero, and we need to find out why the satellite systems that Australia has employed for Pine Gap and why the base that supplied Pine Gap was called Prospero.
We have to understand the steganography that they're using there for these names.
I want you to take a quick look at these and then I'll read them off to you.
These are the X series satellites, and those are launched, and they have a huge history of being launched out of Australia.
They're the main kind of X series that they have.
It's kind of their fleet of satellites.
Let's go with the names.
Okay, X2 is called Orba.
I'll explain that in a minute.
X3 is Prospero.
Pretty easy.
X4 is Miranda, who's Prospero's daughter in the Tempest.
That's Miranda.
Right?
So, just so nobody thinks we're leaving out Ariel, we've got the Ariel UK satellites.
So, what's going on here is they give us the whole record of when they were launched.
So, we have the Ariel UK satellites, we have the X2, X3, and X4 Miranda.
There's a thing in here that says it's not clear what happened to X1 in the series.
I would like to know, and I'd also like to know what the name of it was because it's absolutely fascinating.
But anyway, Orba tripped me up a little bit because I couldn't find Orba in Shakespeare's story.
Certainly, Orb comes up in the story a few times, and it is shaped like an orb in this case.
It's a little bit different than the other ones.
But that tripped me up a little bit.
And what I did is I tracked it down to Irish kings back in the 14th century.
And the only thing that was very significant for me is that the names of the kings translated to blacksmiths, that they were blacksmiths.
And I've told the story on a few occasions here about there was someone who made a prediction, a very unusual channeler actually in Canada, who made a prediction concerning through an ex NORAD officer.
And it was a public thing.
I actually got a press release about it years ago that October 13th, the date in 2010, there would be this sighting over New York City.
And in fact, there was, if you go back and look at it.
And somehow most of ufology missed that whole event.
Do not understand what was employed to make serious researchers know almost next to nothing about it.
So, that because of my personal interaction with that prediction and all the rest, and tracking down the source later and having 12 hours of conversation with this group that was channeling called the Transcenders, I see, you know, it's almost like I'm the expert on that when I know for a fact there are incredible UFO researchers who go after every case and know so much about.
Them.
I've talked to the best of the best.
For some reason, there's a weird block around that case, and no one seems to understand its significance except me, right, Olivia?
It's just, I guess you too.
Okay, so we understand then that Prospero launched these different things.
And then we get into Orba.
Well, it just so happened that one of the things that the transcenders told me in those 12 hours of conversations was that these.
Off world beings, one of the programs that they had was incarnating here, and that they would usually in the Middle Ages take on the pose of blacksmiths, and that there was a long history of blacksmiths and strange myths.
And if you go back and look at them, actually, in fact, there are about blacksmiths having control over this fire, of course, because that's part of the job, but there's also something kind of magical about the whole thing that was going on.
And all that definitely played into my imagination as I was reading it, because I was like, Orba, blacksmiths, you know, and here we are.
So, there's no good explanation for why they called it Orba, and there's no good explanation, even on their own website, for these satellites about what happened to X1.
So, those things would be, I think, help us out tremendously.
But who is Prospero based on?
Well, according to all accounts, Prospero in Shakespeare's The Tempest is based on John Dee, who was the Queen's Conjurer, right?
Now, let's take a good look here.
Okay, fascinating.
We've got Queen Elizabeth first here, a very dynamic figure.
And John Dee is basically her court astrologer, her advisor, and he does all these conjurings for her.
And a number of very unusual things have come up in relation to this.
And the more I study this, the more off the charts it becomes.
Okay, in a nutshell, basically, Dee is an occultist, he's an alchemist, and he has this great background.
And he hooks up with someone named Edward Kelly, who was an absolutely mesmerizing figure, who has very little track record.
Very little things that we can actually dig into his history about.
We don't know a great deal about him.
But according to Dee's diary, he's one of the best conjurers, one of the best alchemists, and that they're working with spirits and they're doing these incredible things at a much more rapid rate.
I think at a certain point, you know, Dee is sort of pointing to Kelly and saying, Well, I can do things that would take me like a month to do.
We can do in a couple of days now that he's around.
He's just phenomenal.
But Kelly's an unusual figure.
He sought Dee out, and I think because he knew that he was associated with the Queen and he wanted.
To get this information around, and it is kind of fascinating.
I'm not going to go too much into Kelly because we're going to stay on D's relationship with the Queen, but let's look at a couple of interesting things in relation to this.
Here is a picture of D conjuring for the Queen, and this is a magical ceremony.
Um, and you can see he's got strange fire there, there's no question about it.
But what is it, and what is he doing?
One of the things that came up, there's a process in famous art where they'll go and they'll x ray the art to see if there's a painting underneath it.
A lot of this came up, and this is something my mother told me years ago because she was such an art fanatic, which is that in the Nazi period, but of course it went way back, but certainly in the Nazi period, when the town was going to be taken over, they would send an artist in to kind of paint over a famous painting.
So, that it would look like it was just some local artist or whatever.
And then underneath would be this incredible, like, you know, fantastic gem of a classic painting.
So, you know, there'd be a Renoir under there, and then you have all this stuff going on.
Now, what's fascinating about that is this has gotten so much into the mainstream that now they do this process, which doesn't hurt the painting, where they x ray it and all the rest of it.
Well, there was a big news story, and this is not a conspiracy or anything else.
All the regular Kind of major channels, National Geographic, Smithsonian, and all the rest of it picked up on it, New York Times.
This is what they found in that painting.
Okay, so I'm going to have us take another look at this.
Okay, that is the Conjuring painting.
And here is what they found when they x rayed it.
Those are three skulls.
How are we doing on seeing those?
Yeah.
Huh.
Interesting.
Well, now, that's pretty interesting.
What's going on there?
Obviously, there's a message embedded.
It's almost like a subliminal in it.
But they're trying to tell us something about these three skulls that are there witnessing this conjuring that's happening.
So we're getting into what is it that's behind these things?
What's the root of these things?
And let's remember somebody like Dee is a master of steganography.
In fact, he's the one who brought the Term into regular parlance.
Before that, it was just the stuff of alchemists and hermeticists from that early period.
Celestial Monad Theorem00:06:46
Now, I want to read what he has to say regarding X.
And it's always funny to run across this.
Of course, it's the first thing I chose for my logo when we started doing Dark Journalist, it's an X.
I guess there are no accidents in life.
So, you know, when you're reaching for the information regarding Edward B. and it says Vannevar Bush, you know, that's not the right thing.
So, Olivia, while I get this information on D, why don't you give us some idea of the questions that are happening out there and maybe ask one?
Well, someone was saying that D's original kind of code was 007.
Oh, isn't that interesting?
And that is how he would sign things?
Did you come across that?
No, but I'm not surprised that they would pick up on that.
There's the D information I was looking for.
Good.
Yeah, well, Of course, the author of the James Bond novels was an incredibly tuned in guy, and I'm not surprised if he picked up on that.
Okay, so he has something called a Theorem X, which we're going to get into here.
But basically, over and over again, the X that he's talking about is something called St. Andrew's Cross, and it's often seen on fire.
St. Andrew's Cross is something deep we can get into, but.
Basically, one of the followers of Jesus, you know, and we know that the various disciples were executed in different ways, and we have some of them being crucified upside down.
Well, the sacrifice of Andrew and the crucifixion of Andrew took place on this X shape.
And again, it's indicating that we are looking at a situation where sacrifice being required is something that is happening physically.
There, with these incredibly advanced spiritual people coming down, like Christ and his disciples, and all the rest of it, but also the symbol of it, that there is this sacrifice involved with the symbol.
So, here's a quote from Dee about it.
He says, We finish the brief hieroglyphic consideration of our monad, which we would sum up with only one hieroglyphic context.
The sun and the moon of this monad, which remember is Theorem X in his system.
Desire that the elements in which the tenth proportion will flower shall be separated.
And this is done by the application of fire.
Now, the X being St. Andrew's cross on fire, usually seen on fire at rituals and all the rest of it, and at events.
And we have him using this application of fire.
He's bringing our attention to the fire again.
Here's the strange fire idea.
Now, here's what he has to say in relation to.
To kind of the larger meaning of X in this.
And of course, his books are dense and they are hard to get through in some ways, but they are fascinating.
And I think I saw Tessa Dick up there saying D was a spy.
And there is a lot of evidence, of course, that he was.
But let's remember this about D also.
He could have been some kind of a super patriot because he also had this incredible push that he wanted.
Queen Elizabeth to get involved with colonizing America because France was over there and Spain was over there and all this stuff was happening.
And yet, there's something unusual about it because supposedly he knows some explorers and he does these incredible maps of the United States before any of that stuff has really been mapped out.
So, who's giving him that information or where is he getting it?
Is it coming through these incredible rituals that he's doing?
Now, I should say about D that it's the claim that in the rituals that they do, these spirits come through and help them, and they are visible.
And they do get incredible information.
When they do this.
In fact, at a certain point, Kelly almost tries to get away from D because D is having him do these scrying sessions on an afternoon basis like, hey, every day you're back, you know, come on back, we're going to do it again.
So let's get into what he has to say.
The elemental cross reappears in the theorem in the figure X.
Okay.
So D subjects.
The symbol X, and this is from John D. Interdisciplinary Studies in English Renaissance Thought by Stephen Lucas.
And I found it to be helpful when tracking the ritual side of the X, which D was using.
So he goes, D subjects the symbol X to Kabbalistic anatomy in order to obtain the letter V, whose value in the Latin numerical system is five.
In the divine name, Here written in the Latin alphabet, EL, defines the letter L, 10th in the Latin alphabet, and so on.
D concludes that one may progress from the number 1 to 10 to 100 through his method.
Alchemically, the Latin X or St. Andrew's cross, we went into the significance of that, is the manifested light or spark of the celestial and terrestrial fire.
Which composes or disintegrates, begets or kills the superior or celestial fire or magical spirit, spiritual force.
I'm going to read that again.
The manifested light or spark of the celestial and terrestrial fire, which composes or disintegrates, begets or kills the superior or spiritual force, which acts in a mysterious manner within concrete matter.
The celestial fire or magical spirit represented by the X is qualified by D as one of God's great mysteries.
We can go on and on from here, but the fundamental thing is he's referring to the X. We've got the strange fire thing again, and we have the incredible power alluded to it.
It's one of God's great mysteries, according to D.
Interdimensional Moon Mystery00:15:20
This is somebody who lives in the mystery.
And somebody who was called upon by the Queen to prognosticate for the entire future of the British Empire, and who has this incredible background.
And there are people out there who are well steeped in Enochian magic, which is what he came from and what he came through and what he rediscovered.
But there's so much fascination there, but I have to clear it all away and go right for the X aspect and say, here he is, almost saying, well, it's a mystery, it's an untouchable.
Here we have Steiner going back and saying, I have to trail off here.
I can't really say what that was all about when he's talking about the abilities of the Atlanteans.
We have the X steganography and the way that it's hidden the UFO file in more modern times, in the last hundred years.
And we have Annie Besant vouchsafing Keeley's information and saying, we're not ready for it.
The culture's not ready for it, it's not advanced enough.
So we have kind of broken through here because with the Varian brothers and what they've developed and generated, and remember, this is now CERN, which is active using their technology, mind you.
And let's chime in here a couple of things about CERN, allocated millions of dollars, a $6 billion project.
That's a military sized project.
That's not a traditional scientific project.
Particle beam colliders are supposed to develop and understand the God particle, the Higgs boson.
And they claim that they already found this, by the way, but a lot of people aren't playing along.
But in any case, strange things happen when they turn this.
Machine on when it does its particle colliding.
And there's been cases in court about the strangelets that produce these things that are like mini black holes.
And they're saying this could develop into a major problem with kind of dimensions bleeding over here.
And there are all these strange and bizarre occult aspects around CERN.
For example, you know, on tape there, somebody filmed the strange ritual that took place there that was pretty.
You know, unusual.
There's a lot of strange things there.
There's a statue of Kali.
So there's certainly more than enough on the front of it.
And that's the Hadron Collider that we're talking about.
And CERN is a very unusual project in any case, started in 1959, I believe.
And Joseph Farrell's book, The Third Way, talking about how that was set up.
Some of the people involved, including John J. McCloy, who was on the Warren Commission for the Kennedy assassination, I mean, you do wonder what level that we're working on here.
But when we do run into this aspect of how do we manage what was going on there in those mystery schools, dealing with this X factor, saying it's kind of a secret too big, even for John Dee, it's a mystery.
But they are relating it to fire over and over again.
And I go back to the strange fire aspect, it seems to be something to do with that.
When we're looking at it, When they try to give us kind of the snow job around the UFO file about what that is, you know, we've gotten so close now with the Theosophical tie in to the Varian brothers that that aspect of the secrecy, it's almost like we have a window on it.
And then with this X letter in the heart of our alphabet and the way that it's been used, I think we've picked up on something that gives us this window that.
Basically, what's happening is an esoteric process.
It's this thing that we're going to get to in the final X episode, which is that there is a technological component involved, which involves spiritual communication.
And apparently, if that goes awry, it's so disastrous that only the highest adepts can handle it.
Certainly not the people who are running government institutions.
So, I believe that we're in a situation where we've gotten very close.
Now, and we've hit on it with the Varian brothers, the Clystrum, and the X band.
It's brought a hole into the wall of secrecy because we've put together Vannevar Bush, who was the head of the UFO file on the scientific level, answerable to three presidents, and also the dean of MIT.
John Trump, the uncle of the current president, showing us that his ability to conceive of what's happening relating to the UFO file is huge.
Of course, Trump just announced the Space Force and how it's going to be used.
For a number of things that we might confront out there, Trump is very well informed around this matter, I think, as we're going to discover, way more so than anyone would have guessed.
We've had recently people from Hillary's campaign come out and say, well, you know, she was going to do so much with disclosure.
Yeah, she was going to create the threat scenario that they try to push through anyway.
But I think that what we're finding, what we're arriving at, is we've hit into the heart.
Of the secrecy pattern, which is the ex steganography, it goes all the way through.
So it's leaning into the mystery schools, it's leaning through the work of the variants, it's leaning through the secrecy around the UFO file, which, by the way, they knocked presidents out for.
And this has to be the crucial edge.
We're right into the heart of it.
And I believe now we're going to be able to take a pretty crucial step with the next episode on this.
And with that, I'm going to turn this conversation over to the very patient Olivia, who's been handling the scene all the way through.
We have brilliant watchers.
Okay.
God, where do I start?
I'm going to start with a really juicy one.
Hang on.
Let me get it.
Okay.
So Reeferman420NL says I heard Dee asked help in other realms to develop tech to leave Earth.
And he was told he needed two things microchips and to be able to make matter from energy.
And they discovered that both.
That is possible at CERN.
Interesting.
What were they talking about?
Microchips in the 16th century.
You're going to have to come up with a good source for that one.
But yeah, interesting.
Definitely interesting.
Okay, keep going.
Carlos Strubel, who initially funded CERN?
Well, the root of it actually is I want to refer people to Farrell's book, The Third Way, because it comes out of this development of how we got the European Union.
And according to the way that he looks at it, It is a post war fascist international that survived with a lot of the money and the booty from the Nazis and who went on to make incredible impact on different countries and decisions and all the rest of it as this kind of stealth fascist force out there.
So it's an extraterritorial force.
But what's interesting, a couple of things I'll tell you here about CERN, which we discovered.
CERN, they went to sue them because of this whole thing about the strangelets, which is a strange hazard from when they turn that machine on, and also the bad environmental impact on the magnetosphere that happens when they turn that on.
And they found out that the federal judges came back and said, You can't sue CERN the way that you can sue a corporation.
It's basically like trying to sue a country, it's a sovereign, autonomous thing.
Now, where do you get that anywhere in a scientific project?
This is quite unusual.
Everything about CERN, I think, has been unusual, including the kind of ruse of why they were set up in the first place.
But the funding certainly of $6 billion is a military style thing.
And now, one of the things that's been pointed out is that India and China are also developing their own versions of CERN, which will tell you they want to know or they want that capability, the weapon style capability.
I think that there is an interdimensional aspect, they even say it.
It's not even like a hidden aspect of this, but there is an interdimensional aspect to CERN, which is.
Part of the unspoken thing.
Another thing that we should know about CERN is that it's the biggest user of the internet of any entity.
That's quite remarkable when you think about it.
And that's because when they do these particle experiments, they send it to all these different scientists.
And the scientists, almost like Bitcoin, are working on these formulas and automating all these things to happen.
So that's quite remarkable.
Okay, let's keep going.
Cassandra Helwig, CERN is trying to open a Portal, which is where all the hype is now with Grant Cameron, Ron Pandolfi, Joe Fermage, et cetera.
Any comments?
Well, you know, I'm a great fan of Grant's work and he's been on the show a number of times.
I respect the stuff that he's doing.
I don't think you can have the CIA near portals or anything else.
This is not a group that you want near any kind of supernatural technology.
And you certainly don't want to take their word for anything regarding the UFO file, which they've been the number one suppressors of the entire thing.
So that That association of having people like Pandolfi talking about that doesn't make me feel good about that particular slant in ufology at this time.
Tessa Dick, is DJ sure that we are not at war out there in interplanetary space?
That is, I think that we've seen things which would suggest, like since Star Wars, especially the 1980s SDI program that Reagan developed.
No, I would say, Tessa, I think you're on the right track.
I think that there is, I don't think that the craft that are out there are openly hostile to things that we do necessarily, but I think we may cross paths in unfriendly ways.
And certainly there's no explanation for why we haven't gone back to the moon.
It's quite ludicrous, actually, unless we encountered something that you could call a problem.
And digging around, you know, I'm always going into the time capsule aspect ever since we've done our own series on the Nixon time capsule in the White House.
That's supposed to have disclosure information inside.
I discovered that there was a time capsule placed on the moon, which I was not aware of, with Apollo 11.
And that special time capsule is basically an early version of a CD.
And I'm amazed that they had the technology there.
I shouldn't have been, but.
It has statements from four presidents on it.
And, you know, people have alluded to the fact that, oh, here's some of the kind of corny statements that it has on it, like, you know, we are a peace loving people and all the rest of it.
But I actually wonder what is actually there.
And why place a time capsule on the moon if you knew you were going to go back again and again?
I found it all rather fascinating.
But yeah, excellent question, Tessa.
And Tessa, I'm also curious what you think of the Clystrum X band aspect of the UFO file coming up here.
Okay, here.
JJK, what is DJ's opinion of Donald Trump canceling the NASA Moon program this week?
It's disturbing.
It's very disturbing.
But he's talking all about developing the Space Force, and then he cuts into one of the major programs that are on the drawing board for going back to the moon.
Look, we went to the moon in 1969.
Okay, so that's about 50 years ago.
It'll be 50 years next year.
So it's kind of absurd the level of the space program.
I've gone into it and I've seen where they diverted things into like the shuttle and all the rest of it.
There's no good explanation.
For it.
And frankly, there's no good explanations for why other countries haven't had a more robust space program and gone back to the moon.
It's almost like everything's been vouchsafed for this incredible space infrastructure that's been developed.
And that is where it's going.
And it's all going into private hands a la SpaceX and all the rest of it.
Interestingly enough, Tesla's stock took a tremendous dive today when he apparently mouthed off in a.
A stockholder meeting about his real plans.
So that's an interesting story.
Follow up on that one.
The stock guy in me found that interesting.
Okay.
Daniel Natal is hot to trot to have me ask you about Nick Redfern's final events, about Jack Parsons from Jet Propulsion Labs and doing John Dee's work.
Yes, it is.
This is John Dee could be said to be the inspiration behind the space program.
Let's put those facts together.
Well, it's well known that Crowley had such a role and such an impact on Jack Parsons.
And Jack Parsons is a fascinating character who really was so hooked in there with L. Ron Hubbard and with Aleister Crowley that at times, you know, it's hard to tell exactly where he's coming from versus what it's just from them.
But I think there's a lot there.
And people who studied it, one of the guys who did the book, Dark Mission, Richard Hoagland did an excellent job of pointing out these magicians that are associated with NASA and how NASA does things on either a Masonic magic or a more Hermetic magic using times, dates, and those types of estimates.
I find it fascinating and I absolutely agree 100%.
There's a major occult aspect at the heart of the space program.
And if we consider the UFO file, the way that we've been discussing it here, You know, it's operated through the mystery schools.
UFO Portal Conjecture00:02:48
It's not a straight up situation.
The aspect of people seeing a craft and then it leaving, you know, residue on a tree or something that's one aspect of what we're talking about.
But there's this whole other thing, which is the effect of whatever that is coming into this system and interacting with us.
It creates some kind of effect.
And this is what we've been looking into.
They've been keeping this since Atlantean times.
It's this kind of ongoing secret where, you know, if it gets into the hands of mortal men, it's too powerful a thing.
It makes you like gods or it makes you a god of destruction.
I think it's interesting to think on those terms, but on very basic levels, the secrecy we can see penetrates our regular everyday society.
So much to the point that when a president tries to share that information with another country, he becomes a target of executive action.
Think about that.
So, on one hand, it's this kind of philosophical, ethereal consideration.
On the other hand, it's kind of this practical, you know, real time, day to day consideration.
And we see the kind of money and things that are being poured into these programs and the black budget money that disappears in these programs.
Something is going on that we need to get our hands on because the secrecy is becoming corrosive.
And hopefully, we're getting a good start here with this series.
Okay, what else you got?
Could you go into the Collins Elite a little bit?
Well, you know, I might do a show on them, but basically, there are these groups that exist inside the military, and they are motivated.
You know, they might be looking at things through an occult lens, and we certainly have seen that even satanic cults have thrived in the military.
Of course, you have all the things about Michael Aquino and the Temple of Set and all that kind of unusual stuff.
So there is penetration.
Of the military in this regard.
And there are groups that are rumored to exist who are basically dedicated to, let's say, for better or for worse, you know, they're kind of like adepts inside of these structures and that they're commanding magical powers.
So, yeah, it is fascinating.
And I am happy to go into Redfern's work on that.
You know, my feeling on it is that there's a lot there to be explored.
Enneagram Occult Lens00:05:04
I just wanted to follow up.
Daniel Detal says According to Nick Redfern, Jack Parsons opened a portal in 1947 when the UFO phenomenon kicked him into high gear.
Then Parsons blew himself up in a rocket experiment, leaving the portal open.
Yeah, yeah.
He did die in this far away, and strangely enough, so did Crowley.
You know, there's a lot of conjecture there, but the thing about the Portal.
What's interesting is supposedly we opened the portal by dropping the atom bomb, and that it wasn't, it was the nuclear reaction that caused a portal to be opened, which is why we got all of the UFO waves just a little while later.
That for me makes a lot of sense.
But I do think that a lot of the, you know, even Dee, as we're doing the Queen's Conjuring, he's very careful to let in only the right type of influence.
And that's something that Steiner points out, which I think is important to.
To ride on here, which is that when you look into the spiritual world, you can get your hands on the highest forces, but you have all the lower astral planes to work through.
So it's something where you have to be incredibly well prepared.
Somebody mentioned Gurdjieff over there, and I'm really glad they did because I have a quote, something that will relate here to when we're talking about steganography.
And trust me, the Enneagram is going to show up before.
Part 10 is over.
Part X.
Okay, this is a few months before his death.
G.I. Gurdjieff drove with a group of students from Paris to a recently opened series of interconnected caves in Lascaux in southwestern France.
We know these incredible cave paintings that come from there, but they were just discovered in 1947, shortly before Gurdjieff died.
His student, J.G. Bennett, told him about an extraordinary Paleolithic painting that had been discovered by accident.
By four teenagers and a dog.
In spite of being in much pain due to an auto accident, Gurdjieff was determined to see them.
And so when he got there with Bennett, he stood looking up at the great stag with many antlers and other extraordinary figures of bison, horses, cows, and at least one sphinx or unicorn like imaginary figure.
And he's reported by Bennett to have looked as if he completely belonged there.
Okay, but what he said is even more important.
Gurdjieff reportedly said that the depiction of an imaginary looking creature was the emblem of a brotherhood that appeared seven or eight thousand years ago, and that stag with many antlers was a way of depicting attainments in consciousness in being.
So, you see, for us, here's the steganography we look at it, we see this unusual creature with seven antlers.
For them, for somebody looking at it who understands, you know, that school, that mystery school.
They understand what they're looking at is the level of advancement of the school that's putting the painting up.
So it's a very good instruction.
Interesting thing about Gurdjieff, of course, when he talks about the Enneagram, which is an incredible figure that he brought out of the schools and into circulation in Western society.
And we've seen a lot of wild things about the Enneagram, saying, like, you know, what type are you, and all the rest of it.
But the Enneagram is an absolutely important figure.
Image and system that was left and kept in these mystery schools.
And actually, the group that Gurdjieff got it from was called the Naqshbandi, which are a group of Sufis that are Christian mystic Sufis.
And they are that name, Naqshbandi, means be keepers.
So they keep honey, they keep the knowledge, they keep the information, and they keep inside of these schools that incredible.
Valuable advanced learning.
So, the Enneagram, you know, what Gurdjieff said about it is if two advanced students of that school met, that they could both sit down and draw the Enneagram and point to each other to understand which one was on a higher level, which one was on a lower level.
So, you see how these systems operate.
Again, the steganography works through those schools.
And I think that's absolutely fascinating.
And the Enneagram is fascinating.
It's going to come up here inevitably.
Jane Jones, who is the head magician today?
George Soros?
Oh, George Soros is a very low level kind of political troubleshooter with a lot of money.
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No, I don't think so.
I think it's a good question.
I think whoever it is stays pretty well hidden.
But I pointed out that Dee, in his role with Queen Elizabeth, was very much like Jean Dixon in her role with President Nixon.
And I think that's a really important thing.
Earlier this week, I tweeted a picture of Gene Dixon with Nixon, and it was the only one that I found.
But there are pictures, of course, of her with Reagan and all the rest of it.
That element of the kind of Rasputin relationship that he had with the Tsar's wife is something that we see over and over again when these mystical people come up, because when you're running a kingdom, You know, it might be popular in America to downplay things of a magical nature.
Of course, you know, we see that a lot, and the culture tries to laugh off things.
And I think the thrust of that is that groups like the CIA, who control the media so much, you know, they really don't want people, just like when it came out that they were doing all this remote viewing, they did not want people around understanding that that's true.
Because then it would mean, oh, they take it seriously.
I should take it seriously, just like the UFO file, you know?
So it's one of those things.
If they can't control the narrative, they definitely do not want average people developing abilities like, Telepathy.
That could be a problem when you're dedicated to secrecy, for sure.
Okay, what you got?
So I have two connected questions here.
Cassandra Helwig again asks Who owns X Band radar?
Raytheon?
Raytheon developed the X Band that we were showing.
And Raytheon is the main developer at this point.
I did say that Boeing also seemed to have a role in it.
So I can't say that they're exclusively.
But I mean, for the X band radar setups with the arrays, which actually they use as weather stations and satellites, Raytheon was the lead.
And remember that the father of Raytheon is Vannevar Bush.
Don't forget he was the director.
It's absolutely crucial.
This isn't a question, it's a comment, but it's fascinating.
Randy says Raytheon figures prominently in the top 30 media outlet owners.
They're in one of the six groups that represent ownership, which, by the way, was 60 different entities in 1983.
Oh, boy.
That's a lot of consolidation.
There's no question about it.
And Raytheon's right here.
I mean, they were here for years.
And what I find this kind of real centering around Boston is interesting to me because there is such a brain trust here with MIT and Harvard.
And there was a certain point where we were developing some of the most advanced weapons right here.
So when we go through this and we're studying the major figures, we find John Trump.
MIT living in Boston.
We find Vannevar Bush in Boston.
We find the Bavarian Brothers in Boston.
And then when we go through the spiritualist history, which I didn't get a chance to really touch on some of this, but there are fascinating connections.
And it all takes us through Boston.
So there's a certain kind of apex that happens here.
And we're talking about this.
Even Keeley, when all of that information is shipped to Annie Besant and all of the advanced technology is shipped to her.
That is, that's from Boston directly to London.
So, right in the heart, in the very epicenter of the whole thing.
Okay, what else you got?
Roha Khan, is there any truth to the rumor of various photographs at CERN depicting, quote, welcoming messages, unquote, in ancient and dead languages for possible entities arriving, arrival during CERN tests?
Wow.
There's something very unusual with the kind of occult type imagery that they use there.
I don't think there's any doubt about it.
And, you know, there is that whole thing that was just like the Denver airport.
If you wanted to tamp down that type of stuff, you know, then you wouldn't have like Osiris as your ambassador.
I mean, it is quite unusual the things that they use and the symbolism and the imagery that they're throwing at us.
In CERN's case in particular, I think that they've been sort of.
Baiting people who are observing them with all this kind of interesting and unusual imagery.
And of course, Akali is that whole destroyer of worlds thing.
So I do feel that there's a secondary occult aspect.
And I did a show, a couple of shows on CERN with Joseph Farrell that I recommend that you watch if you want to get into the details on the occult symbolism side with it.
But yes, certainly something unusual is going on there.
So Titan Bleddiv said, X mysticism leads to development of X tech.
Is that your general theory here?
They're interpenetrable secrecy modes referring to the same thing.
And this is certainly the kind of 20th, 21st century version of it, which is the UFO file and the X technology following that.
And people came out telling us, well, this came from the UFO file, like Philip Corso said, the microchip and all the rest of it.
But there's no question that they were using the X as the steganography.
So, my guess is that in different periods it operates in different ways, but it's referring to the same thing, which apparently is the effect that takes place when the X is utilized.
So, you have to be on some kind of, you know, even when people are dealing with the UFO thing, when they say, well, it alters my consciousness or whatever, there's something more than just.
A kind of cops and robbers thing going on with UFOs when they come in and we chase them out and all the rest of it.
There is that aspect that happens, but something totally different takes place too.
It's almost like a disruption of the field of reality.
And as a result of that, I think there's an extra force, an extra thing to consider.
And the ancients certainly understood that.
And I don't think that they were referring to it, it wasn't like an ancient aliens thing so much.
It was, they're referring to this ex.
Which is an effect, and that there is a technology that achieves the effect.
But somehow, things like that happen with the UFO file, and when they try to redevelop it, fall into this category of this ex secrecy.
So here we are now looking at it, and we've been surrounded by it, literally surrounded by it.
I was having a conversation with Olivia and I, and a friend, and you know, I was talking about, think of another letter that could serve the purpose of what the X serves.
There isn't one.
I mean, we really use the X for this stuff.
That's how they use it.
Now, of course, there are common uses for it.
I'm not saying that.
But the idea, we're not interested in the common uses for it and why it would be there normally.
We're trying to do as Steiner said we should do, which I think was very interesting.
He said, we need to know where to look.
And that's what I think we're getting after.
But that's a great question.
A terrific question.
Thank you.
Don Forbes is asking if the Hakon urns discovered at Antarctica in 62 could be at Pine Gap.
Wow.
Well, it's anybody's guess.
I think it's interesting.
What I find fascinating is people have come forward.
There's a guy who came out with a book about Pine Gap and how he had been the NSA administrator there, and it's all NSA and all CIA.
But Everybody's reaction to that book was the same, which is that this guy can't say anything.
So it would be great if we had a bona fide, true blue whistleblower who came out of that Pine Gap environment.
You hear about all kinds of activists.
People have written to me who've been around Pine Gap, people from Alice Springs, and we get an idea of some of the strange goings on, including those beams.
And people seem to see crafts and lights there on a regular basis.
It's so normal and so natural that they just take it for granted.
I think Boeing's new address in Pine Gap, or in Alice Springs, rather, is also quite unusual.
So, yes, absolutely, it's possible.
All right, let's take a couple more questions.
Okay, I just.
Have to throw this in.
Tessa Dick said, Terman helped develop the IQ test to determine which, quote, inferior people should be sterilized.
Oh, well.
We'll have to look deeper into that one.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Do you want to talk about Ledbetter now?
Okay.
Somebody said.
So, what do you think about him?
Just out of curiosity.
Well, the thing is, Ledbetter became a controversial figure, but let's look at his output, which is Thought Forms, which is one of the best books.
And the hidden side of things, which I consider his best work.
Other people would actually have other favorites.
And he's somebody who knew a great deal.
And he got caught up in scandals and all the rest of it.
And were there weaknesses in his character?
I don't know.
I didn't know him.
But I will say this that when looking at Besant and her support of him, it's very interesting.
He was obviously very advanced in being able to apprehend.
The kind of astral, etheric end of things.
And so I think his work is worth reading, absolutely.
But I think someone like Steiner maybe was less controversial.
And so, you know, it's kind of easier in that sense.
So, but certainly the information that Ledbetter came forward with I think was quite important.
And he's, you know, he and Besant led the Theosophical Society after Blavatsky.
And you have to.
You know, just say that they were able to kind of come up with that.
Yeah, somebody said that he molested Krishnamurti.
There was a case where, um, it's a long story, but apparently Ledbetter taught one of his students how to masturbate.
Uh, and that whole kind of controversy is there for people to find out, but I would say that maybe, uh, there's more to that, and also, you know, there's quite a lot of targeting of theosophy that goes on in that period, so it's very, very tricky.
To understand what the truth is back there.
But certainly, Besant and Ledbetter did great work in moving the society forward.
Although Steiner was critical of Ledbetter, and that's why he formed Anthroposophy.
Okay.
I have a really interesting one.
Greg Hinson says Steganography is well documented within Sasquatch behavior.
The X is seen widely being made with trees in their territory.
I've never heard that.
That is so fascinating.
And I think that has to be the quote of the night because that's very unusual.
I honestly don't know a lot about the different stories that come out there except the very typical stuff.
And what do we know about Sasquatch and their relationship to UFOs?
Well, strangely enough, they show up.
Do you remember that thing about Skinwalker Ranch for a little while?
It was so strange because they had everything going on.
It was like, no wonder Bigelow bought it, right?
It was UFOs on one hand that were showing up.
Then there was poltergeist.
Then there was this shadow wolf walking around, like astral, like strange wolf that they would shoot at.
And then there's finally a Sasquatch.
It's like, okay, everything is thrown in there.
It's like the Amityville Horror House on steroids.
But absolutely, yeah, it's an incredible story.
And the Native American understanding of the Sasquatch is that it's not bound by material rules, so it can manifest and disappear at will.
So it's a magical creature to them as well as physical.
Very fascinating.
Isn't there some story about Sasquatch being seen being.
Yeah, that's the Skimwalker.
Okay.
Where he's just kind of crawling.
It's like he's actually coming.
Output transcript Out of a ship, you know, and manifesting there.
But yeah, absolutely strange.
Okay, what else you got?
Okay.
Where do I want to go with this one?
Okay.
So, Leilani G., I wonder if when Trump redecorated his White House office, I think he was really looking for Nixon's envelope.
Can you shed some light on that?
And, Arv Larson, will Trump disclose anything on the UFO stuff?
Yeah, they're both very important questions.
I think that.
Trump knows more about it than we realized when he got in, put it to you that way.
And I think through the reports that we've done, we understand from Nixon's communication with him, from the fact that we have a letter from Nixon to Trump, and from the fact that we have photos of Trump with Nixon at a fundraiser with, of all people, John Connolly, who was in the car when JFK was assassinated because he was the governor of Texas.
I think all of that shows us a much deeper political picture than we've been led to believe in relation to Trump.
And I think the presence of his uncle, John, with Vannevar Bush tells us also that Trump is pretty advanced on this.
And he knows about the UFO file, and that's where he's making his moves with the Space Council and all the rest of it.
In terms of the time capsule and him looking in the White House and searching it out, I do believe that there's information enough with the information that we put out there through Robert Merritt that there may be groups.
On his behalf or not on his behalf, that are associated with that White House apparatus who have gone looking for this.
So I don't know that they found it though.
And the way it's described, you know, the way that it's described by merit is that it's sort of so hidden in plain sight that it would be really hard to just find it.
But yeah, fascinating.
What was always interesting to me about that story is that.
Merit talking about how Nixon seemed absolutely confident that it would be discovered.
That I found very interesting.
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Okay, we'll take two more questions.
Dana Termina says National Geographic ran an excellent episode explaining how it is highly likely that Jesus was crucified on an X, not a cross.
Oh, isn't that interesting?
Oh, that's absolutely fascinating.
Well, we know St. Andrew's cross that we pointed out earlier is that magical symbol, and that we know he was executed that way.
And we know it is unusual.
For the way that they were doing it, that it wasn't a cross in Roman times, it was more like a T.
But certainly the tradition that comes down of Christ crucified on the cross also has a very strong factual basis, too.
So it's hard to say.
The cross, of course, being an incredible mystical symbol, but the X being the hidden symbol makes you wonder because, again, the X being about sacrifice also.
So, yes, absolutely compelling.
And I think St. Andrew's Cross being a kind of token thing that's brought forward in that period through all these occult ceremonies.
And when they would do these events, they would burn the cross.
So, you know, we have that fire with the X thing and talking about the strange fire.
So, there's no question that we're in pretty deep esoteric waters when we're looking at the cross or the X.
Okay, Scruples 4444 is going to kill me if I don't ask this question.
All right.
So, did you see the picture of the queen with a nurse with an Illuminati belt buckle that's going around?
You know, I think I did.
I think I did.
I probably need to take another look at it, though, to be fair.
So, Thanks for giving me the heads up.
I do think it's interesting.
And if I know Olivia, she's going to show it to me.
We're going to look it up right after this.
So, Mike Jones, does DJ post any links to the articleslash info he references?
Well, I show you, certainly.
All of it is available.
This is the thing, it's just how it's put together.
I am putting together a kind of master list for it all, and I'm going to do a larger presentation.
Of it.
Of course, we're doing a two parter for part X, which is part 10 of the series.
That was the one we're in, part nine.
And X is the kind of pinnacle two part episode of the whole thing.
But yes, there's going to be some resources available, not only for links and things like that, but just a general fundamental overview is coming in relation to this.
And of course, as always, subscribers.
To dark journalists are going to get the kind of cream of the crop in relation to that.
And the support for subscribers really helps the show tremendously.
So we appreciate that.
So, Jane Jones, strange fire could be plasma as maybe the sun turns fire to G particle plasma?
Oh, it's an excellent point.
And Eleanor Freeland has pointed out to me the combinations of the UFO file activity when they show up.
And plasma, which I never really had a good handle on.
But what's strange, and again, why we have this kind of high-low thing going on in relation to the X steganography, is ectoplasm, which we've seen that happens in all of these different mediumistic type events.
And that's a strange kind of version of that.
So, yeah, absolutely.
I think it is very interesting.
Okay, so this is crazy, but Miss Alan Poe, 1989, says, I know it sounds absolutely absurd.
But could you ask Daniel if he thinks there's a possibility that JFK's death could have had a double in his place before the shooting?
And then Richard Belf says JFK did have a double, and I met him at a recruitment party in Norwood, Mass.
It was hard to take your eyes off him because he had the voice and the left hand in the jacket pocket.
You could swear it was him.
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Yeah, isn't that fascinating?
Well, every political figure has a double.
As a matter of fact, there's a great scandal about LBJ's double as well.
So that's no big surprise on the double part.
But no, Kennedy certainly was assassinated, and the stories that are circulated for fun around that don't help getting any further to the truth on the matter there.
And clearly, I think the impact of removing Kennedy is the seminal event of the last hundred years because what happens is it changes the, you know, basically it makes the covert aspect of the government in control and the public control, you know.
Basically, it slides away at that point, unfortunately.
I do like to reiterate the rules of dark journalism for me that I discovered that got me to doing it.
And they're simple.
The first one is that you have the official story, which is usually, you know, in an important, like a deep event, like the JFK assassination, is put in place to protect the individuals involved.
Then you have the counter story, which is the story, but you get all these professors and authors and researchers getting together and saying, hey, the official story has this problem and that problem.
And by the way, you left this out and all the rest of it.
And we're starting to get somewhere.
So the media calls that second level conspiracy theory because they are trying to get people to believe the official story because that's their role largely is protecting the establishment.
And then there's the third force stuff I call junk conspiracy.
And one of the junk conspiracies is something like JFK survived his assassination.
And so people who are normal looking at this information say, well, here's the official story, here's these counter stories.
And somehow, The third force, the junk conspiracy, is meant to muck up the works and combine with the counter story so that people won't look at the counter story to the official story and they'll assume and associate it with this wild, crazy story.
Just like when you had all that stuff about the driver did it before that got tired, that's one of those stories where they say, you know, hey, look, the driver did it.
And there's no, there's, you know, it's completely ridiculous.
The driver didn't do it.
The driver certainly could have been involved with the Secret Service and slowing down the motorcade and all the rest of it.
But he didn't.
The shooting was done by an expert team, the triangulated crossfire.
And my feeling is that it's one of the biggest con jobs on the American public, and the public never bought it because even 72% of people say they don't believe the official story.
Why haven't we moved on since then?
Recently, I did a story on JFK and how Trump has signed on with the CIA to keep the records backed up until 2023.
Well, that's not smart.
You know, those records should be out now because they could help us piece these things together.
So that's a pretty disappointing turn of events in terms of getting those records.
I think the best question to end on is what is the ultimate goal of CERN?
Well, you have that's the $64,000 question.
They're experimenting with a few things.
There's probably not just one goal associated with it, it's probably a multitude.
And certainly, aspects have to do with this interdimensional contact aspect and seeing if they can kind of use that situation to develop an advantage by thinking really outside the box.
So, I would consider that a weaponry.
You know, it's a very different kind of weaponry, but I would consider it weaponry.
It's certainly not just about looking for the Higgs boson.
I think that's.
I think that cover was blown when we found out the $6 billion budget.
But, you know, I don't think the average CERN scientist involved with that knows anything about the deeper purposes around it.
But I think the situation can get pretty dangerous when you're dealing with that.
And my feeling on CERN generally is that we need to know a great deal more about what they're up to, especially since it's a sovereign entity, basically like its own country.
Why aren't there deeper stories, except with us, you know, and Farrell and people in the independent media?
Why aren't there deeper stories about CERN and what they're up to?
I mean, there have been major court cases against them by scientists and physicists talking about their effect on the magnetosphere.
So, that's a pretty big story.
It's amazing that there can be enough of a whitewash to keep that out of the news cycle.
It's kind of fascinating.
Okay, take one more.
Jay Daly, how many more JFK files left to be released?
What are they withholding?
Thousands.
Oh, first of all, the important thing that they're withholding are the Garrison files.
And I wanted to tell you something very, very strange.
And I mean, so strange that we need to move into a different way of thinking.
When I was speaking earlier and we were talking about the brothers who had brought us this incredible X technology, I want to point this gentleman out as we were talking about him earlier Frederick Terman.
So, Let's take another look at him.
And really, let's get to know Fred Terman, very important figure here.
Well, interestingly enough, his two star pupils were the Varian brothers, and they brought us that X technology.
But what was the name of his other star pupil?
It was Oswald Garrison.
How unusual is that?
What are the odds of that, considering the association of Lee Harvey Oswald?
With the JFK assassination, the JFK assassination with the UFO file, and Garrison being basically the person who solved the case, who solved the assassination and figured out that the CIA was behind it at the behest of the airspace agencies.
I mean, it's pretty, you know, it makes you wonder about the larger picture of things.
That's quite a coincidence.
That's fantastic.
Wow.
What incredible questions.
You've all been fantastic.
And I really like to see.
Such a great crowd tonight.
I am going to take another question because I sense that from Olivia.
Okay, we still have a couple minutes left.
Please ask Daniel if he is familiar with the work of Ralph Ellis, and if so, what he thinks of his work.
Yeah, in two minutes or less, I'd have to go back and really think about it a little bit.
But yeah, right off the bat, I couldn't say.
Now, Ellis is a JFK thing, but I can't right off the bat place him for some reason.
So that's a tough one.
Okay.
I mean, I'm familiar with it, but I just can't write at this moment.
John is asking Are there any links to CERN and Space Fence?
Good question.
We have an episode coming up where I'm going to do an interview with Eleanor Freeland.
We have talked extensively about the Space Fence.
There's a couple of really key episodes that I would suggest.
We did speak about CERN in my last interview with her.
She was relating it more to what someone was referring to earlier about Crowley opening portals and how they're trying to get information by opening portals and interdimensional aspects related to it.
Remember, they're doing with an incredibly huge machine, which is using the power of the magnetosphere, what Dee was doing with his conjuring.
So that's how this stuff all brings around.
You know, some people may have thought I was going to do a.
Big treatise tonight on John Dee's magic.
What I'm trying to show, because that's so fascinating on its own, but what I'm trying to show is how, say, the work that is related with like the Gurdjieff style work relating to mystery schools, the work that's related to, you know, Casey talking about how Egypt actually goes back to 10,500 BC and the pyramid was created then and it was developed as this kind of prediction.
Building, this incredible thing that would see our history through.
You know, all these different things and all these different pieces are laying out there in a field before us.
And the great rule, I think, of all of these mystery traditions is that you have to find it.
It's not given to you because it's like the Gurdjieff quote about some of the incredible religious texts that we have, which is they will tell you and give you the information about.
What to do, but the how to do it remains hidden, and it's something that we have to make the effort for.
It's part of the advancement process, I would say.
So, yeah, great question.
I'd like to end on this question.
So it's Haldan Ulfsson.
Okay.
Why are you so obsessed with the JFK?
It was only the beginning, the rest is out.
That part, the first part of that, I understand.
What do you mean it was only the beginning, the rest is out?
This is just what Yeah, well, if I understand you correctly.
But just start with the first.
Yeah, if I understand you correctly, the JFK assassination, I've pointed out, and if you know my work, is pivotal to how the world runs now.
So if we go back into that period and you say that a couple of bullets usurped an American election, you know, you're talking about.
Overturning the will of the people in a democratic society and putting your own guy in there, and then your own guy following through militaristic policies and changing the nature of the government.
We've had problems in America ever since, and that tension since that period remains.
There's nothing unchanged about it.
I mean, just because time passes doesn't mean it didn't happen.
It's an effect.
And when you do journalism, your job, It is to get to the bottom of a story and to get the facts out to people and to use everything at your disposal to do that.
So, that's a story that I'm very interested in.
And as a journalist, I think it's absolutely crucial.
So, I would say that JFK's role in opening up society would very likely have changed that society.
We'd be dealing with a very different society, we'd be a much more spacefaring society, and we wouldn't be talking about space weapons.
Instead, what you've got.
Instead of the Kennedy dynasty, you got the Bush dynasty.
You got weapons of war, you got bombings in Iraq, you got takeover of other countries, and people like Dick Cheney and the deep state taking over with the continuity of government crew.
So that's not the direction that I think would have been helpful.
The Kennedy direction, I think we would have gotten a totally different world.
So we need to refer back to that as the kind of pivotal changeover.
But yeah, it's a legit question.
The story is important.
I would think it would be important to anyone.
Well, and I think also they didn't have so much control over the researchers back at the time, so that we understand more about that assassination, about that crime, especially through the lens of history.
I think about it a little bit.
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Yes, that's absolutely true.
But then you also think, you know, over 55 years, we've come to learn, you know, that's how long it takes to unravel the deep state.
Sometimes people are like, hey, you know, this thing happened in Las Vegas.
I need to, you know, and there are so many different stories like this.
But it's hard.
It's hard, especially a scale of a crime as large as something like the JFK assassination.
It took a long time, a lot of researchers and a lot of people were killed and a lot of people died trying to.
Bring forth the truth on that story and were destroyed, like Jim Garrison.
So, we owe them all for bringing that information forward and helping us see things.
Look, what I'm doing with the X, you know, is in the succession of that line because we need to know the truth about the power structure here on planet Earth.
And that's fundamentally crucial.
I don't think we can get very far without asking those questions.
So, That's why I really think this audience is great because you guys have this incredible quest to know, like I have this incredible quest to know.
And we have some of the smartest people out there.
So we're incredible resources for each other.
It's certainly not just a one way situation.
I learn a great deal from the people who are out there.
So you guys have all been terrific.
I'm going to do a shout out of a few of you.
Of course, Najat is here.
It's great to see him.
And I do feel like we had a fantastic audience tonight, just great.
Excellent questions.
And Olivia, of course, exceptional.
The tops are doing great as usual.
And I want to, I definitely want to say some of those names are going so fast.
But yes, you get some great people.
Aaron Moon.
Yes, Aaron Moon, it's great to see you out there.
But I do want everyone to tune in next week because we have the X episode coming up.
Of X series, and that is episode 10.
And I'll be here with Olivia, and we're going to do a double hitter, and we're going to have some amazing guests also.
I do feel like tonight we got through the key material that we needed to get through to set up that episode.
So I'm very excited to see you there.
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So, Olivia, my hat's off to you.
Okay, thank you.
And I do also want to thank everyone out there for joining us.
And also, Christine Taggart's out there.
Christine, it's great to see you.
Also, thank you for all the birthday wishes, which is I had a birthday, yes, everyone knows it, a couple of days ago.
And I got incredible feedback from everyone on Facebook and Twitter and all the rest of it.
So, thank you very much.
It was great.
To be with you, and I had a great birthday as a result.
And I won $20 on a scratch ticket.
That's right.
I won the scratch ticket.
And when we went out to dinner, the restaurant picked up our tab, which when does that happen?
Amazing.
So we had an incredible evening.
And, you know, we definitely, it was a very mystical evening too.
Strangely enough, as I was about to do this episode, and Olivia can attest to this, but there was a strange man who came up to us yelling, fire.
Fire, fire.
So it was in the air.
Let's put it that way.
So, but what's on tap for tonight?
It's definitely chocolate chocolate chip.
Definitely.
I'm not going to disagree.
All right.
So we'll see you next week.
And thank you so much, everyone.
It's great to see you.
I do feel like we're getting pretty deep now.
So now's the time for us to really go even deeper.
Part 10, let me tell you, what I've got planned is going to go deep.