Daniel Liszt and Olivia expose a alleged Nixon-Haldeman time capsule at the White House containing UFO footage from Holloman Air Force Base, funded by CREEP and featuring Rod Serling. They argue this 1971 disclosure effort was suppressed to protect deep state interests involving Prescott Bush, Lockheed Martin, and secret space programs, while distinguishing legitimate research from "junk conspiracy" theories. Ultimately, the episode suggests official narratives are a schizophrenic psyop designed to hide advanced technology and financial trillions, framing the Cold War as a cover for extraterrestrial contact management. [Automatically generated summary]
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Shocking Nixon Incidents00:08:37
And we are live.
This is Dark Journalist, and it's great to have everyone here.
I have to say that it's going to be a great crowd tonight, and we have a very special report.
And we are live.
That's okay.
Here we're joined by the lovely Olivia.
Hello, everyone.
And we're going to do something special tonight, which is we're going into an area of supporting this large scale story that we recently broke regarding Nixon's time capsule at the White House.
And what I've done recently is gone through the Nixon archives and the history around Nixon to figure out exactly where Nixon was in relation to UFO disclosure.
And it turns out that almost every major figure in ufology acknowledges that it looked at a certain point as if the Nixon administration was creating the circumstances for disclosure as early as 1971.
Now, we're going to go deep into that history and then as a Follow up next Friday.
I'm going to have Grant Cameron here to go even deeper into what I call the Emmenager side of things, which is all about the Holloman Air Force Base.
We're going to go through Holloman Air Force Base and how that relates to Bob Haldeman, who was the chief of staff for Nixon.
And there's a number of series of associations and connections.
So tonight is a large scale connect the dots kind of operation that we're doing.
And it's great to have everyone here.
So far, I have to say, The information around this is explosive and it's growing on a regular basis once you are able to put the pieces together.
And certainly, the information around the time capsule is helping us to do that.
But there's a lot of information hanging around out there about Nixon.
And this is something that we really have to get on board with because it's a missing chapter in ufology, it's a missing chapter in history, and it's a missing deep state chapter in terms of interference.
And I think that that's particularly important as well.
So, we're not going to have Alexandra Bruce with us tonight.
Alexandra had some kind of an incident carrying her bike, and it turned out to be something that put her out of commission for tonight.
But she's there at ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net.
I recommend everyone go there.
And I'm going to take a quick pause here just to ask Olivia to move that light ever so slightly.
If you can just move it back in the direction where it was, that would be great.
Because that's perfect, perfect, perfect.
I'm going to have a better time with this eye if I'm doing it, because I'm going to.
Work with a lot of notes tonight.
First thing I want to call everyone's attention to is you know, it just so happens that when you get around things around history and the possibility of opening new avenues up to understand the deep state history that's going on, all sorts of things start popping out of every corner.
And one of the things that I found interesting, let's see if everyone can see this.
This is a copy of the Declaration of Independence, was recently found that was inside a Virginia home inside the wallpaper.
And it's an actual original copy.
The story just came out February 18th.
So you can see this kind of pattern.
And I've seen this all over the place in the last week, really, since we broke this story on February 14th, which was Valentine's Day.
You know, there's been this incredible, kind of shocking series of incidents.
And I've brought a number of them together here tonight.
One of them is also that President Nixon's.
So, what they call the West Coast West Wing.
And, you know, it's this kind of fabulous, incredible house in California.
It's up for sale.
And, you know, if you have $69 million, you're going to be in great shape because $69 million will get you the Nixon house.
So, you know, I do feel that there's a kind of synchronicity going on around this.
And that's why I've been doing the reports on a regular basis.
Of course, next week we'll have an interview with Douglas Caddy that will be coming out.
We did an interim video this week where we kind of put some of Caddy's testimony together with an overview of merit.
So it was like a shorter, more condensed version of the long video, which was over an hour.
And in between there, we had a two hour video with Alexandra going through the various stages of the backgrounds of the people in question that we were bringing up.
So I think we're really in good shape now to kind of come forward with a round, a really good, well rounded focus on this.
One thing I want to say, which is kind of extraordinary, is when you go back into that area of time, when we're looking at the late 60s into the early 70s, the Nixon administration in particular had great goals.
Around UFO disclosure.
Now, Nixon had been deep in the kind of CIA Project Blue Book version, which was the more advanced hidden version from the public.
And when the public got all the fluff ones about, like, hey, you know, that actually was somebody hoaxing a cupcap in the air or these kinds of ridiculous explanations, or hey, it was the planet Venus and the Air Force checked it out.
Just forget about it.
Don't mind the fact that they're zooming in your skies.
And of course, we have reports all through the 60s.
And there are large scale sightings in places like New Hampshire, places like Michigan.
And in Michigan, it got so bad, and there were so many news reports about it that Gerald Ford, who was the congressman, fresh off the Warren Commission, but pre vice president to Nixon, called for a large scale investigation into UFOs.
And all of these kind of set up investigations came out, including the Condon Committee with Dr. Edward Condon.
And papers were leaked around Condon.
Which indicated that he knew it was a PR exercise and it was fluff.
And of course, people like Heineck, who were part of Blue Book, also came out later and said they weren't really interested in finding the truth, which is why he became kind of a true believer and he went searching for it himself.
Now, I do think when we look back into this era, there's a few interesting facts.
One is they tried like the devil to get the Condon Committee report out, which was a debunking exercise, before Nixon got in because Nixon had a relationship.
With Condon, and he was an adversary all the way back to the House on American committee days.
So he had an extraordinary dislike for Condon.
And Condon knew also, in my opinion, that Nixon had something up his sleeve in relation to UFOs and didn't want to see a debunking effort.
So they tried like heck to get it through, and they did, in fact, ram it through before Nixon got in office.
So that became kind of the official position of the government.
And then in 1969, Blue Book was closed.
To the public.
CIA Blue Book remained open and at full swing and loaded with black budget money.
And someone asked a question about the missing trillions.
Well, I can give you a hint about where a lot of the missing trillions went into redeveloping a lot of this exotic technology that they found, but also creating an entire space infrastructure, which I think is important to keep in mind.
Now, I have a report I want to point everyone to.
It's called SSP and COG, which is about the secret space program and continuity of government programs and how they interlock, and how it's much easier to understand two of the great mysteries of the 21st century UFOs and underground bases by putting these two important features together.
The continuity of government planning, which took place under multiple administrations, really created an underground government.
And by its very nature, it had to be hidden because it was a national security situation.
And a group called the Doomsday Network ran it.
And the Doomsday Network would include people over the years like Dick Cheney and Oliver North.
And so we were looking at a lot of deep players.
But what's interesting, and I want to point you to the work of Peter Dale Scott, Professor Peter Dale Scott, who coined the term the deep state.
Hidden Doomsday Network00:13:53
And if somebody thinks that's an alt right buzz term, well, Peter Dale Scott coined it three decades ago, and there's his classic book, Deep Politics, of course.
And he is a liberal, ultra liberal professor from the University of Berkeley, UC Berkeley.
So, trying to call that alt right doesn't really make sense to me, although you have a lot of people picking up on it and using it that way.
But it's just a term.
Left wing can use it, right wing can use it, anyone can use it because it goes right to the heart of the matter.
Now, I should say before we get into all that, That I call the episode Haldeman and Holloman, The Mystery of, because we need to get into this gentleman here.
This is Bob Haldeman, and he was an outstanding chief of staff for Richard Nixon, intensely loyal, came out of a business background, and really, you know, you just do anything the president said, in essence.
One of the key features about Haldeman looking back over history is when he came out with his own book.
About the Nixon years, there are all these incidents that he had where Nixon is sending him over like a courier and saying, Let's talk to Richard Helms, the CIA director, and get files from when I was vice president because I don't want that stuff getting out.
Because Nixon ran a number of paramilitary units in these different squads, like Operation 40, and he didn't want that information getting out in the 1972 election.
And over and over again, Haldeman's getting rebuffed when he shows up at Helms' door and says, Hey, we want this, give us the information.
Now, most interesting is there's one occasion where Nixon says, I have an idea.
Go there and say to him, this is during when the initial Watergate break in starts to hit, and Nixon is worried they're going to go deeper on this.
And he sends over Haldeman and he says, Go into Helm's office and say to him, This is going to open up the whole Bay of Pigs thing.
This weird terminology.
Of course, Bay of Pigs was a failed invasion of Cuba from 60, but here Nixon's using it as kind of code language.
So Haldeman's all right, you know, I'll give that a try.
He knows that Helms is a very mellow guy, and Helms figures largely into UFO disclosure as we get into this, along with the JFK assassination.
But here we can see Nixon's relationship with him.
And let's remember Nixon fired him in 1973 and eventually made him the ambassador to Iran.
A few years later, the Shah gets deposed, you know.
So there's a lot of things there with the switch out from Helms.
But Haldeman goes into the office and he says to Helms, Well, the president doesn't want you to go into this because it'll get into the whole Bay of Pigs thing.
And he says that Helms just turns red and almost jumps up on his desk and says, This has nothing to do with that.
He shouldn't mention that.
Don't ever say that to me.
And just flips out on him.
And Haldeman goes back to Nixon and says, What happened there?
He flipped out on me.
He looked like he was going to blow his top.
And Nixon sort of smiled.
Later, Haldeman would say in the book that he understood the Bay of Pigs was shorthand for the JFK assassination.
So basically, what he was saying there in coded language to Helms through Haldeman using.
This courier was, I'm going to bring up the whole aspect around the JFK assassination and the CIA's role in it if you pursue these Watergate investigations.
So it's very clever brinksmanship on Nixon's part.
And I think he may have forestalled some of their investigation in the beginning, but the CIA and deep state elements were determined to get Nixon out for a variety of reasons.
Now, the deep state or the Nixon administration, you know, there's no choir boys going on here.
Both of these factions fighting had their own objectives.
But I do think that Nixon opening up detente with the Soviet Union, opening China, he was doing things that were upsetting the deep state.
And I do feel that his policies in not sort of kissing up to the Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party were damaging him, although Kissinger came out of that wing.
So we have to keep this history in mind if we're going to understand things around UFO disclosure here, because we're in a situation where.
All of these historical details set up, what is the fact that they're fighting about?
And one of the key things about Haldeman, of course, is in 1971, he gets in touch with his friend, Bob Emmenager.
And Emmenager is working for this advertising agency.
And he's worked on a few films.
As a matter of fact, I dug through his history to find his films.
And we can see here, this is actually, interestingly enough, a Nixon spoof that had Rich Little in it.
And we have one of the writers here is Bob Emenager.
That's from 1972.
And I do feel like, you know, we're looking at all these different features, but somehow Emenager, even though he was in advertising, he was working on these movies and he was doing music and other things.
This is the actual, this is important too, this is the actual documentary he produced.
This production was created by the committee to re elect.
President Nixon.
They call it creep, actually.
And that's where the money originally came from.
And what was happening was Nixon was positioning UFO disclosure because he wanted to be the greatest president in history.
But a lot of these facts, because this didn't come out, a lot of what I'm about to tell you sort of hangs out there in UFO lore and drifts off into space because nobody could connect the dots until now.
And now we're going to do that.
Haldeman brings Emanager in.
And he says to him, Oh, yeah, I want you to do, you know, talk to these guys and do some stuff.
So now Haldeman goes, you know, he sends Eminager over to the Department of Defense.
They're working with him.
There's like, Yeah, we want you to do some training films.
And how about doing a film on UFOs?
And by the way, we're going to give you a lot of footage of an actual UFO landing where these aliens came out and talked to some military officials.
How would you like that?
And so Eminager has no interest at all in UFOs.
So he's very freaked out by this whole thing, but he's intrigued and he knows that he's been positioned right in the middle of this.
So they walk him through all of these different secret projects.
And doesn't this sound a little bit like Tom DeLong saying, Dude, I got so many cool things were shown to me by Lockheed Martin?
Well, this is sort of the 1971 version of that.
And Ebeneger is DeLong.
And I do want to point out that guys like Grant Cameron have really pursued the Ebeneger story.
And that's why I'm going to have him on next week to go into greater detail on this.
But I'm going to show how the Ebeneger story fits in with the time capsule story and get a much better vision of history.
I think all of us can put this together because.
I think the story is something that's for all researchers to bring forward their piece, and so we get a full picture on it.
And we can, there's a lot of key factors in there.
One of the most amazing facts that I saw was that we were looking at a situation according to Stanton Friedman.
Now, Friedman is gospel in many circles for UFO research because he's a real researcher, he's a nuclear physicist, he doesn't fly away on flights of fancy very often.
He went deep into the Roswell story.
Of course, he was.
The one who broke it originally.
So I would say he's been on this show and we did a real deep overview on the MJ 12 documents.
And I think MJ 12 has a role in all this because, of course, when you're dealing with these documents, you always have the caricature of what it is and then you have the actual thing.
And the actual real documents versus the caricature always sets up that dichotomy where nobody can ever know if it's real or not.
Well, Friedman said in relation to this period, 1971, and these efforts by Bob Ebeneger, that they were definitely trying to release this UFO material.
So, you know, I have a feeling that when we start to get into this, we're going to see that people like Linda Moulton Howe, Stanton Friedman, Grant Cameron were all trying very hard to understand the Nixon disclosure effort of the 70s, but they didn't have these connecting pieces, which is coming out now through the efforts of Douglas Caddy with Robert Merritt.
The exclusive interview that we have up there.
Now, I have to say, in looking at all this, that we really have a situation where, if we're going back into that mindset of 1971, the big stories on the front page are the Vietnam War.
There's things about being taken off the gold standards, there's economic problems, there's civilian unrest.
The Kennedy assassination set up this whole decade, Martin Luther King assassination has happened, the deep state assassinates.
RFK, because he's about to become president in 68.
And instead, we get Nixon, who they figured was a much better bet because they knew LBJ was finished at that point.
And if LBJ was around during another Kennedy assassination running against him, that wouldn't look too good.
That would kind of blow that whole situation sky high.
So we get into an interesting historical situation here.
We're looking at people who, in the Nixon administration, who are figuring out how they can bring all of Nixon's experience to bear.
What is it that they can do to bring out this exceptional history that he has of working in the secret UFO files without sort of like, you know, uncorking it at the wrong time or creating a massive scandal?
Still keeping it tight and disclosing it in their own way.
And so this effort comes up.
Now, Eminager, you know, beyond a doubt, worked with the Department of Defense on this and was puzzled himself about it.
So as the documentary gets made, Watergate hits, and a lot of the Plugs get pulled around the documentary.
It does come out eventually in 1975, and it has Rod Serling as the host walking through it.
And even though they took away the footage that they gave to Emmenager to put in there in the first place, they leave nine seconds of it in there.
And it is very unusual footage.
Now, if we go back to this period, though, if we're looking at what Emmenager was trying to do with the documentary, he's coming forward and he's saying, Well, you know, they got me into this.
And, you know, he got a letter from President Nixon saying originally, Saying, you know, why don't you take a look at who we have in our administration?
Who do you think would be a good fit?
And all this other stuff.
So, Eminagar, for some reason, they feel like he's well positioned to be this front man for this project.
And I'm guessing here that it's his deep relationship with Haldeman.
And Haldeman, as I pointed out now, he's the guy that Nixon is using as this courier back and forth against Helms, the CIA director from 1966 to 1973.
Who joined the CIA from its inception?
He was Alan Dellis's deputy.
And he also, he's somebody who in 1936 interviewed, he's like the only interview in the box in 1936 Olympics in Berlin with Adolf Hitler.
So maybe he got impressed there.
But his deep ties into that whole outfit that became the CIA and just creating this project that would work.
On the black budget side is incredible.
And of course, he's been called into question regarding the JFK assassination and was found guilty of perjury during some meetings with the congressional committees.
So, where is all this going?
Well, they produced this documentary.
So, instead of showing the actual landing, they create these artist renditions of the meeting between these military officials and these aliens.
I want to show these here.
And I'm doing this a little bit old school because I think.
It's kind of the best way we can go.
There has to be something when we're looking at this that is not making sense.
And I'm going to point out what it is in just a moment here.
So, this is one of the aliens that comes out and greets these military men, according to the documentary.
And the documentary is up on YouTube, and I highly recommend people go and watch it because even though it's done in this very kind of You know, Podunk way of the 70s.
There's a lot of interesting information in it in terms of the theme that the Nixon administration was developing for UFO disclosure at the time and trying to work through entertainment circles to do it.
Now, this is interesting.
So, we have the alien from the documentary here.
Sitchin's Nibiru Thesis00:08:54
That's this one.
And then this one is a statuette in the British Museum.
Of a Sumerian figure.
Now, it's pretty interesting because they're stunningly similar.
And a lot of people have said, well, the artist just drew the figurine.
It's another very interesting artist rendition that's in that documentary.
This got me thinking a little bit.
What we have, of course, in 1976, which is a year after that documentary comes out, is Zechariah Sitchin's information regarding.
This planet X, Nibiru.
And Nibiru has been sort of bastardized in the alternative media and really put heavy and hard out there.
You know, every Zing YouTube video that you see that's about Armageddon and, you know, Nibiru's coming and it's going to wipe out civilization and boom, boom, boom, has really given, you know, there's Nibiru exhaustion out there.
However, Nibiru is a pretty compelling thesis, which is that there's this planet.
On the edge of our system, and when it creeps in, it causes all these cataclysms and things, and then it rotates out, and things are okay again, and it comes back.
And of course, we have these histories of pole shifts, cataclysms, the ancient Atlantis story.
These are all cultural memories of something that happened, and they're often dismissed by various types of experts saying, Well, Plato used it as a morality play, maybe, but that doesn't mean it's not true.
And by the way, Plato said he got it from Solon, who got it.
From this Egyptian priest.
So, you know, this is one of the best lineages we have for something that happened before recorded history, and we have to pay attention to those.
So, one of the things that I want to do when we look at this information is say, you know, Sitchin's information, however overplayed it's been in the alternative side, Nibiru was a very solid thesis.
Now, interestingly enough, it's so solid, in fact, that even NASA now agrees.
With our friend.
So, there's this whole study that came out where they were saying odds are, based on everything, that there is a planet.
And so, Caltech astronomers Konstantin Batian and Mike Brown announced new research that provides evidence of a giant planet tracing an unusual elongated orbit in the outer solar system.
The prediction is based on detailed mathematical modeling and computer simulations.
So, they called Sitchin and his Sumerian story.
Crazy for 40 years on the expert side.
The alternative media overplays him.
But what happens in the end?
It's a win for Sitchin.
He figured out this Sumerian information.
And people have said, well, there are better Sumerian experts or whatever.
It doesn't matter.
He was a certain type of Sumerian expert who put together this thesis.
And over time, he's being shown to be more and more correct.
Now, do I want to see the term Anunnaki sprayed on every YouTube video?
No.
However, we have to give credit where credit is due if this is where the research is leading us.
And I think it's very important.
Now, let's look at Sitchin in relation to this documentary.
In the documentary, these beings come out.
They try to communicate with people at Holloman Air Force Base, military leaders, Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico.
And we're looking at a situation where the description of these beings is what?
Sumerian.
Sitchin is saying the beings that came here that were Anunnaki and interacted with the Sumerian civilization and mined gold and all this kind of thing, they were Sumerian.
So there's a definite crisscross between the documentary work coming out in 1975 and a year later, Zachariah Sitchin coming out with his Sumerian revelations.
Now, let's skip ahead to my interview with Robert Merritt.
Merritt, of course, worked as a courier and as a deep operator for the Houston Plan.
As we know from my interview with him, and I recommend everyone go into the YouTube channel or darkjournalist.com and watch that interview if you haven't already, because there's a lot of information about what Nixon told him.
And this relates to the time capsule and everything we're talking about.
But we have to get this context behind it to understand what the time capsule is and what the information is that he was given.
So when he's talking to him, what is it that Nixon says to him?
He says, We have in our position of being from where?
Planet X.
Okay.
So now we have Sitchin's Planet X being referenced by Nixon in 1972, four years before Sitchin comes out with it.
However, Sitchin's Planet X in 1976 is attributed to Nibiru, which is a Sumerian mythology.
Eventually that became replaced by Marduk.
And there was a kind of a political shuffle that went on there, and they were like, we're going to call this Marduk and we're going to change the cosmology a bit.
However, As he traced it back, he found that it was Nibiru that was the original.
Now, people like Velikovsky and all that have traced this idea of planets being destroyed, colliding.
There's a famous book called Worlds in Collision from the 50s.
And people who discuss pole shifts and things along this line will understand the planetary effect of this kind of wayward debris coming into our system.
Planet X itself is a story that goes back into the 19th century, when people were looking for what eventually became Pluto, and they figured out that there was another, there had to be another planet out there in the edge of the system.
So, when we look at all these things together, what are the connecting dots that we have?
Connecting dots are in 71, the Nixon administration goes forward and they say to Bob M. and Eger, We want you to make a documentary about UFOs, and we're going to give you footage of an alien landing that took place at Holloman Air Force Base.
And we're going to show you these beings, and the beings look this kind of Sumerian way, and they came out and they interacted for a while, and this is what happened.
And he's supposed to come out with all this incredible stuff.
And this is being funded by the committee to reelect the president, Creep, as it so happened to be called.
Of course, a lot of people working around Creep, we can take a look at people like Howard Hunt, for example.
So there's a lot of deep state players around this group.
Now, when we go in and we look at the information that comes out through Sitchin, what is he saying basically?
Planet on the edge of the system, it comes into our orbit, messes things up, and it's got a 3,600 year orbit where it comes in, causes damage, and leaves again.
So, this is his basic story, and that's where he's coming from.
It is quite a breakthrough, I have to say, because of all the different suggestions about Planet X that had been there, and they are there.
Even if you go into some of the 40s and 50s science fiction movies, Planet X this, Planet X.
That, you know, so what they're calling it hypothetical Planet X here at NASA, they call it Planet Nine because, of course, they've demoted Pluto, which is ridiculous and something that, of course, hopefully eventually gets revised because we have this situation where they're just sort of making things up as they go along.
But okay, so Planet Nine.
So when NASA tells you Planet Nine is coming in and there's this big, large object out there, it's coming in through the system, and that's coming through Caltech and all these experts, that's one thing.
When Sitchin's telling us in 1976 that this whole thing is happening, it's another because he's an outsider.
He is a foreigner.
He's from Azerbaijan.
And he went to the London School of Economics.
He has an incredible track record as a scholar.
But this is a pretty remarkable claim.
And it actually takes till the 90s to settle in.
And if you start to look in the 90s, you'll see all this stuff about Nibiru Planet X.
I think what's important to kind of capsulize all this is that.
Planet Nine vs Sitchin00:11:02
Bob Haldeman, as a representative of Richard Nixon, moves to get his friend Emmeneger, who works for Gray Advertising, who's made some films, one of them about Nixon, as I showed.
They make this documentary.
The DOD helps them out.
They show him a lot of things, too, including this incredible thing where a Marine is looking at a screen, and as he's thinking a word, the machine is typing it out.
This 1971 technology.
You can only imagine what DARPA and places like that can do now.
Now, here's a few other things about Haldeman, which I think are absolutely crucial.
Haldeman was the person that Nixon was talking to when the 18 and a half minute gap shows up in the Watergate tapes.
Now, there are so many things in the Watergate tapes.
There's swearing, there's the smoking gun about blocking the CIA and the FBI from looking into the whole situation.
What is it about those 18 and a half minutes?
That couldn't go out, especially in the context of all these tapes going out, which had all this horrendous information.
And why didn't Nixon battle to keep all those tapes?
It's always a very important historical mystery because technically they were his tapes.
They didn't belong to anyone but him because they were his private tapes.
But he did, in fact, let them out with all of this nasty stuff about him and his administration, except for the 18 and a half minute gap.
Now, Haldeman, when he spoke to his wife about it, according to her biography, Said, I can't tell you what it was about, but it wasn't about Watergate.
So that leaves us with a lot because if Nixon was saying, look, you're going to have to pull the plug on your disclosure effort because of the Watergate thing.
And if he even made a reference to the fact that he was hiding a time capsule to give them leverage so that they could weather the storm of Watergate, that's the kind of thing you would wipe out because you're not going to include information about the UFO file, which Nixon was very, very close to.
So, we have to keep all that in mind as we go.
And I'm just going to stop here briefly to check in with Olivia because she's giving me the question eye.
How are you doing on questions?
There's great questions tonight.
Okay, so we'll break here and get some questions.
We'll start with that and then we'll move into the next phase of Sitchin, Emmeneger, Planet X, and then the time capsule because all these things kind of move together, but we need to find the context for it.
Okay, you're up, Olivia.
Okay.
Okay, first, everybody wants to know the name of the video.
That you're citing.
Yeah, that's a good point.
There's two different names, interestingly enough, but I can actually read it.
I believe the name is UFOs Past, Present, and Future.
Yeah, see?
UFOs Past, Present, and Future.
And then there's a re release in 1979 that has Jacques Valet.
And I think that one's called.
They're here, or something along that line.
But on YouTube, if you look for UFOs past, present, and future, or Bob Emmenager, which is E M E N E G G E R, you'll find that for sure.
Okay, let's go straight into the time capsule because there's a bunch of questions on that.
So, Zora Dax, DJ may address this later, but if the National Archive does not respond to the request from CADI, is there any one agency that CADI could get to to retrieve and release the time capsule?
Well, I do think that there are good plans and there are good contingency plans for if they don't get a response on the National Archives.
As far as I know, here Friday at 8 p.m. on February 22nd, we're on the 22nd, 23rd.
We're in a situation where they haven't responded to him, as far as I know.
I think that it is an interesting request and it would be the kind of thing that they'd take some time to do.
And I think my latest update with Douglas Caddy, which is in the previous video, gives us some idea of what he presented in that letter.
And in the letter, it says the conditions are we will lead you in a very non publicized way to.
This time capsule.
And the time capsule contains a message to the American people that Nixon left.
Basically, I think that, you know, Caddy put it straight out there.
Now, Caddy is someone who, I think, looking at the situation, decided, you know, I want to do this officially.
And so what they said in the letter was that the National Archives can take possession of the document as soon.
As it's read aloud for the public to hear and distributed widely to the media from there, which I think is totally fair when looking at this whole situation.
So I don't feel like they're running too late on this response.
I think it would take a little while to coordinate and figure out what was going on.
I don't know if they're going to respond to Caddy.
This is the thing.
His follow up and the next piece, I think, from there will be.
You know, they're going to look at other contact avenues that they have, and I'll keep you posted on what they are.
Okay.
Carl Self says If hidden in the White House, I bet they're going to find it before it can be disclosed, probably turning the place upside down.
Well, this was the great thing.
And I thought a little bit about that too, which is what if we, you know, had approached them and just said, you know, there's something on federal property?
Can you do that?
So telling them that it's in the White House.
Does give them some incentive to look for it themselves and just blow off these outsiders who have this information.
However, there are some compelling facts that maybe there's something about this time capsule that is known and that people have heard about it before.
For example, someone sent me this information about how when the Clintons left office in 2000, they took a lot of furniture with them, which was odd because that's not the thing you do when you leave the presidency.
That's the kind of stuff you leave behind, most certainly.
And I found that fascinating.
Then someone sent me pictures.
And isn't it great to have such a crowdsourced audience?
So you guys do keep me very well informed as much as I'm digging through things.
When you send me stuff, I'm always paying attention.
And you can always send me information at info at darkjournalist.com, by the way.
But interestingly enough, there was a big project in the last six weeks of the Obama administration digging up the gardens in front of the White House.
And you have to wonder if this thing doesn't just linger as a legend among these people that Nixon did stash some information relating to this.
And if they aren't still looking for it as these administrations leave, they're like, it's their last shot to figure it out.
The Clintons were very interested in UFO disclosure, as we can tell from their association with Lawrence Rockefeller.
And there was a lot of comments also that Clinton made.
One of them was when he was in Dublin, and they say he made up a question about a seven year old boy asking if the Air Force is keeping bodies of aliens at Area 51.
And he said, The Air Force hasn't shown me.
And, you know, And if they are there, I'd like to know.
But they said, where'd that question come from?
No one could figure it out.
So he just was putting something on the record there.
So it is really fascinating when you think about it.
According to what I've heard about it and the confidence that Robert Merritt had about it, I do believe that it's there still based on what he said.
And I guess what's more important is that he believes it.
Okay, what else?
Okay.
David Jason, what makes Daniel think Trump or anyone else would ever disclose what many of us already know?
Well, we're seeing faux disclosure in the New York Times.
There has been a project afoot, as we've seen since at least 1971, to disclose the UFO presence.
There are a lot of pros and cons associated with it.
There's a group deep inside that has managed the UFO file, largely intelligence operators.
And they certainly don't want it out.
They've done so much to conceal it that it's sort of.
It's blowing their stash and they don't want that to happen.
But I do feel that they're in a position where it's sort of like cracks in that system are there.
And every time they go to do it, they're trying to do it with their own spin.
We saw it in the 90s.
There was a whole spin that was going on, the culture was catching on to it.
We've gone through these different stages, and it seems like the person who's been there through all of the stages since the 1980s is this Dr. Ron Pandolfi, who's the top scientist at the CIA.
And I find that interesting because He didn't have a very public face with the DeLong operation, but his key man, Jim Semivan, who was a CIA, who basically is such a large scale CIA operator.
All of these guys that are associated around this version of disclosure coming through the New York Times and the phony Harry Reid thing with Bigelow and metal alloys and counterintelligence official Luis Elizondo, who, by the way, apparently had a disastrous presentation at the UFO Congress.
Because when it was over, it was all videotaped and canned questions and all that stuff.
And when it was over, no good questions got asked.
And the whole audience, and many people have told me this, and anyone who was there can tell us nobody applauded because they felt like they were getting the shaft and there was no new information.
And in the meantime, guys like DeLong are selling poetry books and beer mugs now on their Twitter account.
So it's a very unusual situation.
I think what they tried to do was take a plan that was worked up by John Podesta.
And Podesta, working with people like DeLong, thought Hillary Clinton was getting in.
Of course, he was her chief campaign manager.
And when it didn't happen, this plan was already rolling in the background.
But it's interesting to mention Trump because, of course, when you're talking about people like Caddy, you know, Caddy in his own work doesn't have any love for President Trump.
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And so, you know, I feel like it.
Blows past any party or anything like that.
I've been supportive of Trump in a variety of policy moves, in particular, lessening tensions with Russia.
But I don't feel like if somebody was pro Trump or anti Trump, it would make any difference to this story because the story is the story.
If it was an Obama White House, they'd be going forward and talking to the Obama White House and saying, we need this information.
I do want to mention that Caddy, in my interview, is going to talk.
He's finally committing his history to a book which is going to be out.
In the spring, and it is called Being There.
I didn't have a picture of the cover there, and I don't have anything to do with the book, and I haven't read it, but I guess I'm in there somewhere, which is good.
But I think what's important is that he is doing an overview of his own history, and I think that's an important thing to pay attention to.
And there's a chapter on merit in there, so I think that that's fascinating because, of course.
Merritt had attempted to do a book called Watergate Exposed, which came out originally on Trine Day in 2011.
And there were all these issues around it and a lot of problems that came out of that.
So I think anytime that Merritt's going on the record in relation to these things, it's great to pay attention for us.
So that's something we're going to keep a close eye on.
I also want to point this one out, which is Peter Dale Scott, Dallas 63, is coming.
In March, and that's going to be a hardcover.
This is an amazing book called The First Deep State Revolt Against the White House.
And of course, we have to understand when we get into the Nixon administration, it's coming out of the wave, the theme of the JFK assassination, JFK leaning again into that UFO file, which is under that tight protection, and the presidential loss of the connection to the UFO file when Nixon didn't get into office in 1960.
Eisenhower was already complaining that it was slipping away into this weird wing that he couldn't get his hands on.
And we know that that is the aerospace wing.
And a lot of those, you know, largely Lockheed Martin, I would say, is an easy way.
I mean, it's more involved than just that, but that's kind of the easy way to do it.
Okay, you're up.
Najan Madri.
I think Trump would be perfect because he needs something to end this ridiculous Russian probe.
I think a lot of people feel that way.
Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
Right now, as it stands, Trump is in the White House and he would be the one who would decide to open the capsule or not.
That's a fact.
So, You've got Democrats or Republicans, they all would want the same type of disclosure, whether it was Obama or Trump in the White House for sure.
There's a lot of talk about Fred Trump.
Okay, yeah.
So Scotty says Fred Trump financed Admiral Byrd.
Do you think President Trump knows what's at Antarctica?
I think Antarctica, it's harder to get information on Antarctica than it is about space.
Because it's so remote and anything that we hear about it is so controlled.
But we do know, interestingly enough, that Lockheed Martin is there.
And I do think that when we look at things like the Pyrrhus map that Graham Hancock shows very often, we see that at one point Antarctica was a thriving continent and was not covered in ice.
So it's very possible that when we look at things like lost civilizations, although I favor Bimini and the Bahamas and that whole area as the region of Atlantis because we see all the offshoots in the Inca.
And in Yucatan and the Maya, it's quite possible there was a very advanced civilization there at Antarctica, and that's what they've been digging for.
There's a long trail, and I have an excellent video with Joseph Farrell about it, which I think is very important.
And it goes into all the different aspects, including the links of Admiral Byrd and D.H. Byrd, who D.H. Byrd owned the Texas School Book Depository, where they set up Oswald as the Patsy.
And again, there's a Russia connection.
Working that Russia connection.
The deep state is famous for that ever since the country had this coup in 1963.
And I think there are a lot of aspects there that, when we look at these deep players and we see their family situations, when we see the connections that they have, I think it's worthwhile to go deeply into it because we know the Nazis were interested in it.
We know that Admiral Byrd took them to Antarctica and showed them various things.
And we know what Byrd said when he got there that there were a number of saucers.
Coming after his fleet and that he became back very disturbed.
I think all that is very solid material, historical information.
I think there's a lot of fantasy that goes on about Antarctica as well.
So it's hard.
Like I said, I think it's almost harder.
You can almost identify things that are going on in space better than Antarctica, but it's a fascinating question.
So, Zora Dax, wasn't Fred Trump one of the agents that stole all Tesla's papers after he died?
This is that thing, you know, because I think that.
I don't think he was one of the agents, but I think he was given information after Tesla died that the J. Edgar Hoover raided Tesla's hotel room, and Tesla had been living there for 20 years and, like, you know, the smallest of financial situations and was seen, like, you know, starving to death, feeding the birds and stuff.
So they really did a number on Tesla.
And of course, Edison is lionized when a lot of the things that we attribute to Edison, of course, should be attributed.
To Tesla.
But what Tesla was telling us, remember that Tesla had gotten signals from outer space and he believed that there was intelligent life in space.
But his whole thing was about wireless energy to beam energy wirelessly the way we do Wi Fi now.
And the problem was the corporations, the way they were set up, there was no way to control that.
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If they did that, they wouldn't be bilking us all and creating an entire economy the way they have.
So, you know, when we have someone like Susan Manowich who came on the show a couple of months ago from Breakthrough energy.
And, you know, with what she's doing with the new energy movement, they're getting into that whole aspect, which is, you know, eventually the situation is going to require a new energy source.
And guess what?
The UFO aspect is related to that.
And, you know, so when we get into these situations, it's kind of like you're talking about the same thing very often.
When you go advanced technology, you're associating all these other things because when you get into that, you get into advanced science, advanced medicine.
And if you have this group up here operating with advanced medicine and advanced science, I'm not sure.
Not sharing it with the regular public scientists and that whole covert overt situation happening with the public state and then the covert state doing all this other stuff far in advance of what we have, then you have an imbalanced situation.
And so we get an official truth which lends itself really to a kind of schizophrenic situation.
Take UFOs, for example.
The official word on UFOs is while they don't exist and it's anomalies, it's planet Venus, right?
Then we have all these people who see them, and we have all these people experiencing them, and experienced pilots who go on the record, and military people who are told your pension will get taken away or you'll be court martialed.
So, obviously, that's a schizophrenic wall of secrecy situation.
And that's protecting a whole corridor of finance.
It's protecting the underground base situation, which was set up under continuity of government.
There's a whole underground economy.
And then Catherine Austin Fitz points out over and over again with very deep analysis.
Working with Professor Mark Skidmore, there's $21 trillion missing between DOD and HUD.
So, those are the facts.
I mean, this is a schizophrenic situation because the official word is one thing, and then we have all of this kind of wide scale wildcard information over here.
So, I'm going to take this opportunity to remind everyone what the core of dark journalism is.
Very simple dark journalism is you have the official story, you have the counter story that looks at the official story and says there's holes in it.
That's often called the conspiracy.
Theory by the official, the people who put out the official story.
And then underneath that is junk conspiracy that I call third force, where they introduce something wild and say, well, you know, for example, AA tip, the threat component of the UFO factor.
So the official story is UFOs don't exist.
The counter story is UFOs exist.
People are seeing them.
People are having these experiences.
The counter crazy story is, oh, they're here.
They're a big threat.
We need money.
Right.
So, you know, I can go through these layers, but you have to look for the third force junk conspiracy stories all the time.
Flat Earth, you know, junk conspiracy.
And what happens is these things are pushed in such a way, like with the secret space program, there's a legitimate aspect to it if you go into the work of Dr. Joseph Farrell, the financial work on it from Catherine Austin Fitz.
At Gary McKinnon's breakthroughs, the NASA hacker who broke in and found an off world officers list.
Those are things you can all point to that form a thread.
And when you tie that in to the UFO file and the things that we're looking at here on UFO disclosure, it makes sense.
There's a whole other aspect of secret space out there, which is complete junk conspiracy.
And it's there for entertainment purposes.
And sometimes junk conspiracy is not cooked up by an Intel agency, but they might piggyback on it.
It might just be there as a major marketing thing.
And marketing and entertainment, I don't have any problem with it, actually, except when it infringes and plagiarizes the real stuff and pretends to be the real thing.
That's when the type of work that I do goes into gear showing the difference.
But dark journalism is simple.
You can look at it, there's always three.
I've analyzed it, I've worked in the mainstream media, I've worked in alternative media, and in all the media that I've worked in, there's always these three elements to these stories the official story, the counter story, take the Florida shooting.
About the official story, the counter story, people are pointing things out and saying there are some inconsistencies.
Why was there a drill going on?
There seems to always be a drill going on around these shootings.
And yet, the junk conspiracy is hey, nobody got shot, okay?
Which is absolutely ridiculous and ludicrous thing to say.
Same thing with Las Vegas.
The official story doesn't hold up.
The counter story shows aspects that are compelling, like there were other shooters involved.
The junk conspiracy, nobody died.
It was all Done on a Hollywood set.
I mean, you know, we have to be able to separate those because they're all three factors working on us on every level.
In a conversation I had with Gigi Young here on New Year's, we did a whole broadcast on the Tom DeLong disclosure thing.
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And we came to the conclusion that on one side, you had the Intel psyops pressing in.
And on the other side, you had the marketing psyops pressing in to these stories and on the UFO thing in particular.
And right down the middle is a thin corridor where you and I can get the real information from the genuine people like Alexandra Bruce from Forbidden Knowledge TV, Catherine Austin Fritz from Solari, Dr. Joseph Farrell at Giza Destar.
These are the people that are bringing you the things that you can use, the things that you can.
Understand that have good research behind them that are not there to market you into oblivion or give you disinformation from the Intel side for nefarious purposes or to fulfill some program on the covert side.
So we do have the sources.
The thing is, we can't say, hey, we're so hemmed in because even though we are squeezed on the Intel side and the marketing side, we've got the real thing.
If you go right down that thin corridor in the middle, you know, if you're on darkjournalist.com, solari.com, forbiddenknowledgetv.net, You're there, you're getting the real information, you're going to have that opportunity, and of course, there's more that I haven't even mentioned.
A cryptagon is another one fantastic news site, and I think these things are important.
Okay, Olivia, I think we have to establish who Nixon really was.
There's some questions about him.
Cece Jarvis asks, Was Nixon a good VP, ergo, worked in partnership with Eisenhower?
And Chris Davies says, Nixon was in a political wilderness, how did he gain prominence again?
Was he someone's puppet?
Oh, there's no question.
And the puppet that Nixon was originally was Prescott Bush.
Prescott Bush was his mentor.
And we all know that, you know, Prescott Bush worked closely with the Nazis during World War II.
As a matter of fact, he was caught fronting a bank in New York that was laundering all this money for the Nazis called Union Bank.
And Alan Dulles was involved with that also.
And they couldn't prosecute Bush.
Because he was the head of the USO.
And this takes me back to Jim Maher's work, because he was trying to figure out why didn't they just prosecute him?
But they couldn't because he was head of the USO and they thought, oh, this would be bad.
We've got this guy who's the head of the USO.
He put this whole thing together and we're going to take him out as a member of the deep state.
That's not helpful.
We're going to say that he was a Nazi, which he was clearly laundering their money.
The Bushes have such a deep history on the deep state side and they represent, you know, the deep state was worried with the Kennedys, we were going to get a dynasty.
And the dynasty we were going to get was going to open up the world for freedom.
In their opinion, he was soft on communism.
But really, what it was, was he believed in freedom and he wanted to open up the world to these various facts.
The UFO thing is a great example.
He wanted to say to the Soviets, we're going to trade this information.
By the way, the CIA refused him over and over again to get this information.
And that was a big tussle they were having there at the end.
But going back to Nixon, I think it is very important because.
He was a protege of Bush and business interests.
And when he got in, he was forced at the age of 39 onto the ticket, the Republicans.
And the people who were behind Eisenhower were like H.L. Hunt and major oil interests in Texas.
So you've got the deep state on the Bush side and then Hunt.
And we all know that the Bushes also had their incredible deep ties with Zapata Oil in Texas.
These are the really deep operators, super deep operators.
So, Nixon was totally the front man for that.
And they shoved him into this Alger Hiss situation and became big on the House American Activities Committee, pushing this forward.
And then he wins as, you know, he becomes this congressman and he's the best choice for Eisenhower in 52.
Apparently, they almost throw him off the ticket because of the scandal of the slush fund.
And he does the checker speech and he saves it.
But a 39 year old vice president, what we see about Eisenhower is that he did not.
They ask him at a press conference, can you think of one thing that Nixon contributed to your administration?
And he says, Give me a few weeks, I'll get back to you.
So he thought of Nixon as a very much a bit player.
But what happens is in 1956, Nixon gets to become president for a couple of months because Eisenhower has a stroke and it takes him a while to get back into shape.
And they say that Nixon really pulled a lot of power there and that part of the UFO file going out of the hands of the presidency and closer into this kind of Black budget world was under Nixon's purview.
But what happened was it went so far south that we have really fantastic information that Eisenhower threatened them, hey, I want a briefing on the UFO file, come in here.
And the CIA just saying, well, you'll get it when you get it, kind of thing.
And him saying, I've got a call here to this army unit and we will come into Area 51 and get the information we want.
You have your choice.
And that they did, in fact, show up and give him a briefing on it.
And that they set up Nixon as the liaison for the CIA Blue Book.
His experience, his depth, a second probably only to Eisenhower on the UFO factor, I would say.
But yeah, great question.
Wow.
I don't know the answer to this one.
Giovanni Delgado says Have you heard about Jack Ruby Nixon ties through Prescott Bush and other associates?
Yes.
I'll tell you what's important about this, which is there are aids to Nixon, including if you read Roger Stone's book about Nixon, where he says, I recognize.
That man, when he's watching, he said that when he was watching Jack Ruby, he told Stone afterwards, Hey, you know, even though this is the 70s that he's talking and that took place in 63, he says, The thing of it was, I knew this guy, Ruby.
Now, Ruby had been an undercover informant on Nixon's 1949 look into mobster figures and this kind of thing.
So, the House on American Activities used him.
Ruby was a deep operator.
Ruby ran guns to Cuba, was deep with the mafia.
We had the CIA working with the mafia.
Anyone who thinks Ruby was just this half cocked guy who went off and shot Oswald, that's the reason the Warren Commission falls apart.
You know, the magic bullet, the lack of admitting that Oswald was a CIA agent, and saying that Ruby was just this kind of off balance nightclub operator who wanted to spare Jackie Kennedy from going to trial.
So, yes, there is a link with Jack Ruby and Nixon.
And I do think it's fascinating, but Nixon attributed him as one of Lyndon's boys, one of Lyndon's circle.
And that makes sense because Lyndon was the senator from Texas who became the VP and eventually, of course, took the Senate to the presidency when the deep state took Kennedy out.
So, yeah, I would say Johnson is more the connection with Ruby, but Ruby did work for Nixon as an undercover informant.
It's on the record.
Good question, though.
Okay.
These are a little related.
Oh, so Bandegger Zero.
Why would Nixon take Merritt into his confidence?
And David Ranson asks, did Nixon read the full five pages out to Merritt?
And if yes, how much of it does Merritt recall?
He did.
He read the entire letter.
That's one.
Why did he do it?
Well, it's interesting.
I've been trying to figure out the character reference on this.
And I went back and I read Haldeman's wife's biography, autobiography.
Where she says that Nixon was an incredible insomniac who was constantly calling Haldeman in the middle of the night, engaging him, telling him to come down to the White House and do these things.
And it really upset their life there because Nixon couldn't sleep.
So these meetings that take place that Merritt disclosed in our interview are very compelling.
And you think, hmm, this guy comes in at about one o'clock in the morning, knocks on Merritt's door and takes him to an underground base beneath the White House where he meets Nixon, who tells him all these things.
It's pretty extraordinary.
And yet, It is exactly fits the profile of what Nixon does.
When Henry Kissinger gave a speech after Nixon passed away, he said Nixon wasn't close to anybody.
And he really didn't have any friends, nor was he particularly good at social interaction.
So, therefore, if he did find someone who was a really good courier, the way he felt that Merritt was, I think that he did want to use him as a kind of human time capsule.
And in fact, Merritt coming forward and giving us this information now may trigger events that will make Nixon's place in history completely different.
And he will be called the UFO disclosure president who set up China and Russia and this whole foreign policy in order to deal with the UFO file.
So I think that it could be mission accomplished in terms of what he was doing there, because he must have thought to himself, I don't want a kind of low level person like a Democratic president.
Getting this information and putting it out there.
He wanted to be the one who would be there when the time happened.
And interestingly enough, he seemed to have a kind of almost preternatural confidence it was going to happen and be attributed to him because, you know, when Merritt was kind of nervous and he said, Look, you know, what if I die tomorrow?
I like this information.
And he said, Well, Kissinger is still living.
So he had this kind of sense it was going to come out, but Nixon didn't tell him when to put it out.
So, you know, we have a conundrum there for sure.
But he had.
Some sense and some cleverness to put this away.
And he knew it was going to be the vital issue, although he dropped all efforts for public disclosure as soon as Watergate hit, including the Eminager documentary, which I think does lead us to that interaction between the DoD, Eminager, and then Zachariah Sitchin's information on Planet X and all that wrapping around this kind of Sumerian thing where Sitchin is talking about Nibiru being this planet and that whole interaction with the Sumerian civilization.
And then in the documentary, I mean, it is very shocking that they would bring out these figures who, you know, look to me just compellingly Sumerian.
I mean, as a matter of fact, when they show that side by side, you could almost think that the artist went into the British Museum and sketched it that way because, you know, and somebody could say, well, it's a fraud or whatever, you know, that they just did that.
But why did they do it?
Why were they relating this alien to Sumeria, you know, when they were making the documentary a couple of years before Sitchin came on board?
It doesn't make any sense.
You know, it's odd.
We're getting these two big pieces connecting.
We can connect these dots now.
This is the important thing.
Because of the merit testimony, you can connect the other dots, but we need to go back now and look at the Eminager situation, which is hung out there.
And only people really like Grant Cameron have tried to look deeply into it.
And I think he's done the best work on it.
We're going to have him on next Friday.
And of course, stay posted with this stuff at darkjournalist.com or go to facebook.com forward slash darkjournalist to make sure you have the schedule there.
But that's definitely something that.
It is important to tie in the disclosure from the early 70s to what's going on now and the completely bumbling effort of the To the Stars Academy, which I think has proven to be both a marketing op and an Intel PsyOp mashed together, which is the worst possible outcome.
Okay.
Okay.
Wesley Lance, why even waste time with the White House time capsule?
Why not go straight to Kissinger and get his copy and disclose that way and keep the politics out of it?
Liam won just said Kissinger's back in the news.
He's had several meetings with Trump.
He has.
Kissinger's 94.
He's been Secretary of State, National Security Advisor.
He's advised many presidents from Nixon through Bush and Trump.
Every president seems to have these meetings with him.
He's a key figure at Bilderberg.
He's such a deep player.
He comes out of the Rockefeller wing, which really was not the wing that Nixon came out of.
So it is an interesting combination of factors there.
I do think that Kissinger knows all about this.
As a matter of fact, there was a recent press event where Gorbachev came forward.
And I told this last week, but it is fascinating where, you know, Gorbachev comes on board and he's sitting there with George Shultz, who's 97, and Charlie Rose.
This is last summer.
And, you know, He says Nixon took him aside during the Reykjavik summit and said, Seriously, will you help us if there's an alien attack, if there's an invasion?
Which is obviously they were showing Nixon, they were showing Reagan this information about these ships that were out there.
And they were saying, Well, this is kind of a military thing that's going on.
And so they spooked Reagan with this information.
And that's where a lot of Star Wars activity came from.
But the interesting thing about all that is Gorbachev said, Of course, you know.
I'll help you, and that Reagan very seriously said, Good, because we're going to help you too.
And Gorbachev was mystified what was going on here, and then he would continue to see Reagan talking about this alien thing.
And it's funny because in these speeches, if you look at those notes, you'll see that Reagan would put those sentences in himself over a normal speech.
And I've gone back and checked that out, um, so I find that interesting as well.
So, certainly, my point is, Kissinger is in the audience for that, and his face when Gorbachev is relating that, and the whole room just drops, so you can hear a pin.
Everyone's so nervous.
But the face on Kissinger says it all, I think, which is like, my God, you know, what's going to happen if he spits the rest of this out?
And Charlie Rose tries to break to a commercial or laugh or whatever.
But, you know, and they make Gorbachev actually apologize and says, oh, I'm sorry, I broke your stride, you know, but I wanted to tell you that.
And so they make it into a joke, but it's very important, I think.
Kissinger is a deep player.
I don't believe that Kissinger, under any circumstances, knowing all the secrets that he has, would ever give up.
His version of it.
However, when it comes out, he may be the first person who can confirm the series of events that led to it.
And I certainly do hope that we get an opportunity to look at what Nixon left behind.
Okay, what else?
Okay, Counter Crow just throws out Kissinger met Obama at Frank Marshall Davis' pizza party.
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Is that true?
Well, I think that's not something I can confirm right now, so let's move on to the next one.
Okay.
Mike Humphreys, would you say that anything Nixon said to anyone not in the security loop on the alien theme was contrary to his?
National security backs?
Well, it depends because when you're the president, you can kind of make a new edict around what consists of national security.
So if you are making an edict that the UFO file is going to go public, then you might have factors inside the deep state who will disagree with you.
But as the president, you have that power and authority, just as President Trump does.
And everyone, you remember there was all this stuff about Obama.
Everyone was like, oh, he's going to be the disclosure.
President, we're going to walk arm in arm with an ET out there, and it never happens.
I do think it's an incredibly difficult position, and I think when they look at it and look to see whether they can do it, unfortunately, they're trying these sideways angles to come in on this manipulative tip and really manipulate the public with it just by saying, Oh, there's some flying threat, and there's no aliens.
We're not going to talk about aliens.
We're putting out talking points about it.
But here's Tom DeLong, and by the way, Tom DeLong and CIA guy after CIA guy after CIA guy, right?
So, you know, that's CIA disclosure.
These guys are involved in counterintelligence and in a public vein, they lie for a living.
So, that's not something, that's not where you get UFO truth.
You get UFO truth from the researchers.
Maybe you can get certain types of information from intelligence records and things like that.
But these guys, they don't, you know, they feel like they're protecting the world and protecting their interests.
Because they have the information.
But I do feel that there are movements inside that group to profit from it.
And that's what we're seeing here.
Because something that Catherine Austin fits, you see, this whole thing can fit together nicely if we wrap our minds around it.
Catherine Austin fits makes a great point, which is that the whole world needs another eighth.
So the deep state, in marketing sense, their shares, they need another eighth to come in.
And if they don't get that eighth, they have to go looking for it.
Where are they going to get it?
And I think that there's an aspect in the deep state that's looking for that edge.
They're looking for that next profit margin.
And the place that they can get it is a manipulated version of a threat from space.
And they can pull out all of these space defenses as a result of that.
So this is, I think, where they're going with it, unfortunately.
I don't think that's a good development.
And frankly, I don't think it's good for society.
Although it's good, you know, when you see a headline in the New York Times that talks about UFOs.
Everyone can agree that that helps to move the culture forward.
Unfortunately, this one was loaded with inconsistencies and untruths and used a video that was compromised and was some of the worst UFO footage in history.
And Linda Moulton Howe makes the point that the chain of command around the video had gone to Germany.
A company had released it on YouTube earlier.
The Goddard's Journal video debunked it pretty fast, saying it actually was a jet fighter, but the gimbal lens, which is what the name of the camera video was.
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The Gimbal Lands created the anomaly to make it look like that.
So, their job from the deep state side is to create a narrative.
These are counterintelligence guys.
Luis Elizondo, his job is to create a counterintelligence narrative that is, make up a story so an enemy country can't figure out what's going on.
But when you come out to the public like that, we're the enemy country.
So they're making the false story up to hide the facts from us.
So that's the way you really have to look at these people.
Okay, Yara.
Okay.
Why do you think Nixon said nothing himself after he left office?
I think he placed a time capsule to be opened in much later generations.
And I think that he thought his whole foreign policy and all the things he would achieve that they were tearing him apart for would be redeemed in this.
That's the conclusion that I've come to from looking at his work.
I don't think that we really can answer all the questions you get in his head, but I do think that we have to understand that they were taking away some of his greatest achievements.
He had opened up China, he had negotiated salt.
The strategic arms limitation talks with the Soviets, which is gigantic.
It's a major accomplishment.
No president had been able to do it.
And he did both.
So he ended the Vietnam War, although he did inherit it.
And he prolonged it.
There's no question about that.
But he did end it.
So he had all these incredible foreign policy accomplishments, and he wanted to run for a third term.
This is the way he was thinking.
So when they shot him out and set him up with Watergate, even though he was up to things like the Houston Plan, which were illegal.
And a lot of presidents had employed those types of tactics, including Johnson and people like that.
But here he was exposed doing it, and his guys got caught doing it.
So that was the nature of the situation that he was in, and he was looking at a prison sentence.
So I think that he could have used the time capsule as leverage or hidden the fact that he hid the time capsule and just said, it'll be preserved for history.
And when it comes out, my legacy will be secure, which was a big thing to him.
He felt he had accomplished more than any other president.
And if he is the disclosure president, if that's what's in the time capsule, then history will prove him right.
Okay, what else?
Okay.
I think a lot of people are asking these questions of themselves.
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If they talked about this in the Oval Office, would there not be tapes from this meeting and then consequently removal of the time capsule by the intelligence agencies?
And Liam 1 asks, how can it still be there with all the remodeling and debugging that went on at the White House?
Where do you think it is?
That's a great one.
Look, here's the thing there are rooms that you can't do sweeps in.
They're called cold rooms.
And this room deep underneath the White House was obviously one of these continuity of government bunkers that are set up in the case of an attack where the president can go underground and run the country.
So those rooms are set up in such a way, and he had enough expertise and knowledge of the CIA to make sure that nobody could bug those rooms.
However, you make a good point.
Which is that Merritt did tell me that the meetings were recorded, which I think is very important.
So there could be a tape flying around.
The other thing is the two tapes that were in the package that were taped to Merritt's stomach were cassette tapes.
Those were delivered to Kissinger.
So there's those tapes as well.
So there are tapes floating around in relation to this.
Nixon did the letter in his own handwriting, according to Merritt.
I think that's significant because that is the kind of thing that you would want to do.
And I think when they uncover, if they uncover the time capsule with the message in it, that they're going to find that it's his letter.
I think that's what for sure they will find.
The tapes are anybody's guess.
So, yeah, but great question.
Aaron White asks Why does Daniel think the former Russian president told a reporter that he got two briefcases one, the nuke codes, and two, a brief on the alien presence on Earth?
Yeah, you're talking about the guy who, I can't think of his name right now.
Oh, he made Medvedev.
He was right in between.
He was Putin's puppet who they just put in there to see can we keep the continuity going?
And then Putin jumped back in.
I think that Russia knows a lot about the UFO presence.
They've studied it as closely.
One of the things that Kennedy wanted to do was set up a sharing situation and also wanted to get rid of the space race and do these.
Cooperative, you know, create cooperative, but he wanted to do it around the UFO factor too.
Kennedy was very advanced.
The more we go into this, when we look at it, we have to see just how advanced Kennedy's thinking was.
And by the time we get to Nixon, I mean, Nixon puts a lot of things into action on the ground.
Nixon creates the EPA, Nixon creates things like the minimum wage.
You know, so it's funny when we think of him now, you would think of him as almost like a liberal, even though then he was thought of as this incredible hard right guy, you know.
Really, the stuff that he would do, you know, wage and price controls, that's really democratic stuff.
So he worked and he knew how to work with a democratic Congress.
So when we look at the situation and we're kind of seeing what kind of a person he was, you know, he's the sort of guy who could get these things done.
He was remarkable in that regard.
What else you got?
Little Jimmy.
A question, R.E. Merritt.
I heard him asking Nixon that E.T. was in Area 51.
Was Area 51's name in the public domain at the time?
This can surely be verified?
No, it's.
What they had, of course, was the facility at Groom Lake, which we all know came to be called Area 51.
And there were stories out, even by Dorothy Kilgallen, about aliens being stored there as early as 1958 at facilities in Nevada.
Now, the public didn't use the term Area 51, but the people inside knew the term.
And the other thing is that, you know, it's the allusion to a facility in Nevada.
But just like he did name the Los Alamos scientists working, I mean, it's not that he named the scientists, but he named the fact that scientists from Los Alamos were working with the being and they had been working with it for over 20 years.
So, you know, this idea that somebody is going to catch Merritt because he said Area 51 the term was out there on the inner circles and the idea of, Area 51 was out there because people had heard about these things.
And one of the things that we have about Dorothy Kilgallen is that she was very close friends with Meryl Monroe, which is important, I think, because she did something remarkable, which is, Marilyn told her about these different stations where we had these alien bodies.
And they were kept in Nevada.
And where had she learned it?
From her conversations with her romantic partner, JFK, who was fascinated by the topic, worked closely on the topic.
And had friends who had told him these things and had people, comrades at Harvard in the astronomy and that whole situation where they came forward and wanted to work with him around the UFO subject.
So he had a great fascination for it and him telling Marilyn these things.
So when she said that she was going to have a press conference shortly before she died, it could be that people in the deep state got worried.
They could have been worried that she was going to release.
Information that Kennedy had said to her, or just that she was going to say that she'd had this affair with the president.
So, either way, I think that by doing that, unfortunately, that situation led to her death.
But I do feel that Kilgallen had that information.
And there are stories, if you go back to Frank Scully's books about these crashes and recovering aliens and things.
So, that idea was there.
And certainly, Bob Lazar bringing it out in the early 90s is where we get the Area 51 terms that you and I are familiar with.
Back when George Knapp was doing incredible work and not bothering with things like Elizondo and stuff.
Elizondo's paired up with George Knapp like this, and that's a whole CIA plan there.
And it's unfortunate because Knapp used to be the guy who would say, don't trust the counterintelligence forces that are trying to muck up the story.
And now they get a free pass, unfortunately.
Okay, what else you got?
Aaron White Does Daniel believe that Trump has been read into the UFO program?
No, I think they've kept him out of it.
And I think that he wants in.
I think that's where the Space Council comes from.
I've got this picture here of very interesting.
It's Pence.
And he's standing here with a guy from United Launch.
Now, United Launch is a combination of Robert Bigelow and Lockheed Martin.
So that's Bigelow Aerospace working with Lockheed.
Lockheed is the one who's holding a lot of the secrets around the UFO file, one of the biggest players involved.
And of course, there are Lockheed people all over the DeLong thing as well.
But Bigelow and Lockheed, it's just might as well be the same company as far as I'm concerned.
But Pence, being the titular head of the Space Council now, Trump was trying to introduce the Space Corps, and the Space Corps would answer to that, they would have the Air Force answer to them as relating to aspects of space instead of the Air Force having domain.
So, you know, it's very important that Eisenhower struggled hard to keep NASA.
Being in charge of the space program and the military trying to get it back.
Well, Trump's idea is that the military can get the thing and sort of take it back from the deep state.
And I think these other people, because this is the way it works, Clinton and Podesta thought that they could do the same thing with this kind of rigged New York Times disclosure and kind of force some light on that thing.
But unfortunately, the way that they did it, they did it with, you know, the CIA basically took over the whole thing.
And Those groups that were working with it were looking at a situation where largely it's financial again, it's the marketing push, it's the manipulation of the public.
And then, on top of that, what do we have?
We have the CIA psyop of there's a threat out there, just some spinning thing.
By the way, Leslie Kane or George Knapp or whoever else is involved in how the way we're pushing the story, you can't mention aliens anymore.
Well, that's a pretty big piece to leave out, but you can mention a weird threatening force that's spinning around out there with machinery.
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The most absurd thing that Elizondo.
Says, and I have it here somewhere as a quote, but I'll just paraphrase.
He says that we didn't want to find out where it was from or who was operating it.
We just wanted to find out how it worked, which is ridiculous.
I mean, any operation will, you want to figure out the most important thing is who's got it, right?
If you see a plane flying over and it's North Korea instead of Israel, you know, it's a big problem, right?
If you have a plane from France, that's okay.
But if you have a plane from North Korea and you're a counterintelligence officer, you're going to want to know who's flying it.
So his.
His question and answer is like kindergarten level stuff, and nobody's buying it.
And I think that Elizondo proves to be if the weakest link in the chain publicly was DeLong in terms of the presentation, then Elizondo is the weak link in the chain in terms of the strategy of presenting these things because people were willing to hear some intelligence facts.
And for him to come out in his interviews and say, well, the information is secret, not secret.
You know, it's like a weird psychological game.
And, you know, can you follow the white rabbit of Ellis Hondo?
So the CIA is classic for that.
If they're double dealing, then that's just their regular practice.
Okay.
Okay.
This is great.
Dale Smith, Jack Parsons, baked into the esoteric Ordo Templi Orientis, did a ceremony at Area 51 in a dedication ceremony.
It's not a question, just a.
Wow.
This guy is really well informed.
Look.
Anyone who talks about Jack Parsons and all this, you're getting very close to an aspect of the UFO factor, which is not looked at very closely, which is the occult aspect.
And it's absolutely gigantic because Parsons was one of the first pioneers of rocketry here in America.
And JPL, they say, you know, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory is actually Jack Parsons' lab because he's the one who came forward with all these incredible breakthroughs.
And who was his favorite person?
Well, His favorite person was Alistair Crowley, and Crowley set him up to run the OTO in California.
And it's fascinating because the person that he tried to get a lot of these rituals and things going with was L. Ron Hubbard from Scientology.
And there's a weird aspect around all this because this is maybe an answer that was nested inside of your question, but Merritt himself, one of his first jobs was to spy on L. Ron Hubbard because the CIA wanted to know what was going on.
With Dianetics and all of this.
And one of the things that was happening was all the people that were visiting him were the people who were involved with early remote viewing, like Hal Putoff, who was deep into Scientology.
And when they had that big split after the December 16th New York Times story didn't work out so well for them on the CIA side, what did you find?
You found Pandolfi firing shots at Hal Putoff.
Well, who was Hal Putoff?
He was the guy who was in charge of the remote viewing program.
And guess what?
He was associated deeply with the Bob Emmenager.
Documentary from 1975.
So, how long has Put Off been on the scene with this?
That's 45 years.
So, when he showed up around this, he was doing it under the role of contracting for the CIA.
Unfortunately, by the way, Put Off is a guy who's done incredible work around remote viewing and stuff.
And I was disappointed to see him involved with such a schlock organization like the TTSA.
Okay.
Segan Lightman says they blew Jack up.
Did they block his lab?
Well, yes.
But what's interesting, I do think that Parsons, the thing I didn't get to in the last answer, and I'm sorry, which is that Parsons and Crowley try to do these rituals around space and opening these portals to other dimensions.
And that a lot of people think that the portal that they opened let in this kind of ET factor and caused the UFO wave from 1947.
Other people say us setting off.
The atomic bomb did the same thing.
So it is fascinating.
I mean, any answer is a good answer on that one.
But I would say there's no question that us setting off an atomic bomb increased dramatically the interest that these off world civilizations apparently had in us because there were sightings before, there were recoveries before.
There's no question about that.
There's been a long history of that.
But in the modern era, it's 47, you know, a couple years after the atomic bomb where things just go off the charts.
This is an odd one I've never heard.
Scruples 4444 again.
I'm not sure where I heard about the so called Lockheed tax, but was something along the line of every American paying $63 to them every year?
Have you ever heard of this?
I haven't heard of the Lockheed tax.
Catherine Austin Fitz calls them the United States of Lockheed because when she worked at HUD and she would try to get financial information from these different agencies to kind of balance the books, they would always be run by Lockheed, one.
And two, they would never give her those documents.
And so they just controlled that whole thing.
And all the record keeping of the DoD and Lockheed Martin is under the purview.
I'm sorry, of DoD and HUD is under the purview of Lockheed Martin.
So certainly it's an organization with too much power.
Their aerospace wing is dominating on the UFO side.
And if you take Jim Garrison, you know, the pages that they didn't let out when the JFK records came out, it was Jim Garrison's investigation.
Into the aerospace connections to the JFK assassination.
That's where this thing resides.
And it's the aerospace aspect, particularly at that point.
And there are people like Dr. Joseph Farrell who trace it to a post fascist international, post war World War II fascist international that had some links in to this rocket program because, of course, of the paperclip program.
We had so many of those German.
Scientists working on it, and that they somehow got their claws in that way.
Now, that's not saying that the US government is run by Nazis.
It's saying that there's a force that operates underneath the public system and that it has all these different factors to it.
It has financial interests, it has intelligence interests, it has oil interests, it has Wall Street interests.
But there is this leftover, this hangover of this Nazi thing when we Beat the Germans, but did we beat the Nazis?
That becomes the question.
That's why when we look at people like Bush, who was Nixon's protege, and his Nazi connections were really getting somewhere.
Lee Feldman, what does DJ think about Jim Brinden's scene being named head of NASA?
I haven't looked too much into his background, really.
If you find anything disturbing, let me know.
It seems to me that NASA is being cut out of the pie.
So, unfortunately, I actually respect.
Some of the things that NASA has done.
And I think what's happening is the money that we put in and the programs that we started through NASA has been co opted by the privatization side.
And I think that groups like SpaceX and Bigelow will be the beneficiaries of that and we'll have things like space tourism and all the rest of it.
But what's going to happen is all the money that we've put into, almost like putting it into Social Security or something like that, we're not going to get the payback for what we put into the space program.
And that disturbs me because, you know, I feel like.
That's a kind of a breaking of the public trust.
So, NASA has been moved back to pre 1965 levels in terms of output.
There was a great drop in funding for NASA right after 1971 when they concentrated everything on the space shuttle, and that happened under Nixon.
So, it's never been explained well because, of course, Nixon was there when we sent men to the moon and we had these other Apollo missions.
But suddenly, everything was about shuttles and.
Weird probes, and they couldn't send real people to Mars officially in the public program.
But what was happening underneath?
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You know, and a lot of people talk about Alternative Three and all the rest of it.
I think that there is some smoke there.
So it's something that we can get deeper.
The more serious we are about it, the less distracted we are by things like, you know, galactic ambassadors and stuff.
You know, the more we can get to the hardcore truths, and there's a lot of truths to get to.
Oh, Science Churchill has a great one right now.
I can hear the excitement in your voice.
What are DJ's views on David Bowie and his ET claims and his OTO status?
Wow, that is great.
I met David Bowie on two occasions and found him incredibly lucid and charismatic.
I think he's one of the smartest, most intelligent, and most artistic artists that we had in the music field.
It's an amazing guy.
He did run a UFO, you know, it would be the equivalent of a UFO blog now, it's a UFO newsletter back when he was 20.
And in the 90s, he looked into encounters that he thought he had had as a child.
And so there's no question, also in the 70s, he brings up this kind of imagery, of course, all of his space imagery.
It is fascinating.
And I do think he had a deep connection, a soul connection with space.
But the guy was truly remarkable.
And what was the upshot of that?
His OTO connection?
Oh, yeah.
Well, there's a period there in 1975 where he gets deeply into the Crowley thing.
And there's a line in the Station to Station song, which is from Kether to Malkuth, which is the top and the bottom of the Tree of Life.
And I do feel like this is very significant because that outfit that he was wearing, which had these strange zigzags on it when he was doing all this occult stuff in the mid 70s, which eventually he would disown and say, oh, it's.
You know, something, it's a lifestyle whose crux I've forgotten.
He wore that outfit in his last video before he died in the Lazarus video.
He's wearing this zigzag outfit from 1976.
So it is fascinating.
But remember, people who look for spiritual fulfillment will find things like the OTO.
And it's incredible information because people like Crowley are so brilliant and they know so many things.
Unfortunately, People like Crowley were also heavily vested in using occult means for, you know, sort of nefarious things.
But I do think a lot of that stuff, the Golden Dawn and all the rest of it, is incredible information.
And if it's taken into a wider context of a whole worldview, there's a lot of things to appreciate about it.
I think that movements like Theosophy and Anthroposophy were going in a better direction.
They were taking that mystical occult side and they were applying it to bringing the kind of spiritual world here.
So, yeah, but Bowie, incredible.
You find a lot of things, so many different things.
Characters that Bowie had, that space is a major part of it.
I did an interview that is on the channel, and it's with Ken Scott, who produced three of Bowie's crucial albums in the early 70s.
And I think it's remarkable.
And I actually did it before I did Dark Journalist, but I had the tape and I released it.
So that is out there if you want to listen to it.
Everybody wants to know about your take on Phil Schneider.
Well, Phil Schneider, no doubt, the story of Phil Schneider is that he worked in these underground bases setting them up.
That when he got into one of them, he encountered these aliens in one of them, and that they had kind of a firefight, and that's where the Dulce legends come from.
I have to say that Schneier always seemed to me very believable, and the things that he said, he also seemed damaged in a lot of ways, but I never doubted that he was working on the things that he was working on.
And I think the way that he died, there's a book that Alexander Bruce did called The Philadelphia Experiment Murder.
And Alexandra, also, though she doesn't take many bows for her writing, you will find she's a remarkable writer.
And that book is available on Amazon.
And if you can get a copy of it, read it because it is fascinating.
And it describes her attempts to track down the investigative team who, after Schneider died, to see if it was how he died.
He was apparently strangled by, they try to say it was the life support apparatus he had in his wheelchair or something like that.
You know, it was a ridiculous story.
He had been bumped off because he had only come out and spoken for a few months.
So, we have those players out there.
And, you know, I think that when people come forward with important information, I think they do need to be acknowledged in the public.
It's a way to kind of build a protective wall around them.
And during that period with Schneider, I just didn't think he, there wasn't enough publicity around it.
And it turned out very badly for him.
But yeah, I do think he was legit.
Did Elvis Presley encounter any aliens?
I actually love that question.
I'll tell you something fascinating about Elvis, which is his hairdresser came forward and said that Elvis was absolutely obsessed with Helena Blavatsky, who's the founder of Theosophy.
So, how deep was Elvis when you get right down to it?
Incredibly deep guy.
And again, he also had this kind of magical thing.
And so, yeah, he was the king.
What are you going to say?
What do you think of William Cooper?
Well, this is interesting.
Cooper, of course, is one of the very early guys in the 80s to talk about Majestic 12, to talk about the UFO connection to the JFK assassination, to talk about these various UFO aspects.
Then later, he disowns UFOs and says it was a psyop and that they gave him the wrong information when he was in the Navy and all the rest of it.
And then he produces this incredible Behold a Pale Horse.
He's killed in some shootout with the feds at his home in Arizona.
It's a very strange story.
I think that he was the kind of real Alex Jones.
You know, I think that's kind of how I would sum him up.
And then he knew a lot and he was definitely advanced, but he also, he maybe was a little off balance because of the things that he'd been through.
So the information, take of it what you can.
But if I was in 1970, no, 1989, 1990, and I came across Cooper's material, and I think I read it in the mid 90s, I would have been incredibly enlightened by the things he was talking about because he was so far ahead of his time that.
I think we just caught up to him over the past 20 years.
But yeah, very fascinating guy.
Rika, the hopeful volunteerist, says, Could we have a tour behind the scenes of Daniel and his crew at some point?
Well, it's kind of like the Bat Cave, right?
What is this Zorro thing that's going on?
I keep getting all these messages about Zorro.
And no, I just saw one up there.
But yeah, there's Zorro thing going on on Twitter about.
Me and now I'm seeing a lot of Zoro here, so somebody's coming up with a Zoro meme, and so you're brilliant, whoever you are.
But there was a question up here that I wanted to address earlier, which is about Nixon and Jackie Gleason.
And I made Olivia watch an old Jackie Gleason special, and we had some fun with that.
But here's what happened so, and this is according to Gleason's ex wife, and it was confirmed.
Later, and they went and talked to her.
So it's a completely legit story on the record.
So Gleason and Nixon are close friends, as close as somebody can be to Nixon.
And, excuse me.
So Nixon takes him aside and says, Look, you know, what do you think of, talk about the UFO thing?
And Gleason was, you know, in the 50s, Gleason used to call into Long John Neville's show and talk all about UFOs, and he had a big UFO library.
And Nixon said, It's nothing compared to mine to Nixon.
So, Nixon, I mean, Gleason and Nixon were trading this thing and doing this one upsmanship thing going on.
Then, interestingly enough, a person shows up at Gleason's door and says, The president's going to talk to you.
And then Gleason meets with Nixon, and Nixon scurries away from the Secret Service with Gleason and drives to this airbase in Florida and shows him.
These aliens.
And, you know, along the way, they encounter these people, like the MPs who are guarding the base and all that.
And they're shocked to see Nixon, but he's like, let me through.
And he shows Nixon this.
Now, Nixon, this is just the kind of thing he would do to kind of show off to his great friend, Jackie Gleason, but also he wanted to share this secret.
And Gleason's description was that they looked like children, but they had old faces and they were small.
And the ones that he showed them were kind of banged up.
So, His ex wife, Gleason's ex wife, said that Gleason, who loved food, obviously couldn't eat for three days after that.
He was disturbed by looking at the aliens.
So I do feel this is important.
And again, it shows that there are these stories, just like the disclosure documentary that I referred to about Bob Haldeman and the Haldeman Air Force Base landing, that show Nixon was close on this UFO disclosure front.
And if Watergate threw him off on that and he wasn't going to be in there with the documentary, if they weren't going to give the footage, You know, with the Sumerian aliens coming out and all the rest of it, then the next best thing to secure his place in history for this is the time capsule.
I think it's a logical connecting of the dots and it opens up that whole thing.
But the Gleason story is absolutely crucial because it shows us not only that Nixon was aware of the aliens, but that in this case he wanted to share it with his golf buddy, Jackie Gleason.
So it's a legit story.
What else you got?
Has Gleason's wife ever said which base it was in Florida?
It's pretty interesting, actually.
I had this conversation with Linda Moulton Howe, and the base that it's attributed to, which I can't think of the name of, Right off the top of my head, she thinks it's another one, but it's two of the famous bases there.
And actually, if you go to Earth Files, that's probably an easy one to look up.
But I don't think that Gleason told her, but supposedly he told Larry Warren later because he met Warren about where it was, where the incident occurred.
So it is on the record out there.
And this is a story that was run in Esquire magazine.
And Greg Cameron talked to his wife also.
Okay.
Grant shows up a lot in these different stories.
There's a lot of talk about Peter Lavenda and whether he's a contractor for the CIA and his relationship with DeLong and all of that.
You know, it's tough.
I don't know.
You know, it's a difficult thing.
I mean, that's not really a question, I guess.
In the final analysis, I think the truth is that this guy, DeLong, was running around, and of course, he talked to people like Dr. Joseph Farrell and Farrell didn't really play ball on the Hillary side.
But guys like Lavenda, who are out there who have done interesting work around UFOs and occult subjects, these would be the people that a guy like DeLong would go to.
And of course, he went to New York Times bestsellers to sell secret machines and stuff and didn't do so well.
So maybe he was thinking of getting himself a little bit of cred there.
And guys like Lavenda going along with it, I don't feel like this is a healthy thing, just like I don't feel like Knapp going along with Elizondo.
I think that's even worse, actually.
Writing a book with DeLong is one thing, but teaming up with Elizondo to try to get his message out.
I have to say this across the board.
Any thoughtful person looking around at the UFO field looking for disclosure should completely reject the testimony of Louis Elizondo because it is such a controlled narrative and it's such a counterintelligence narrative that it doesn't have any place in responsible research, in my opinion.
And, um, I think that that's getting proven out as we go.
And I do believe, fundamentally, I have a faith in people and their insights.
One thing I would say in relation to all of this, though, is maybe someone like Lavenda got caught up in this.
And hopefully he can just move on to another project and do something else.
But I don't feel like it's a healthy place for good researchers, that TTSA.
Yeah, I mean, it's.
I feel like they're really up to no good in the grand scheme of things.
I think it's a marketing effort, an entertainment effort.
They are incorporated as an entertainment company, and I think they are a complete puppet of the Central Intelligence Agency.
Do you think Larry Warren has been honest about Bentwaters?
Olivia, you've got the good questions.
You're picking out the good stuff.
Wow.
Bentwaters is an incredible story.
And a lot of what he said later we found out was actually him speaking for someone else who didn't want to come forward, named Bestenza.
And, you know, so I think that Linda Moulton Howe has sussed out the truth of that.
But I never thought that Warren was lying about anything.
I just felt that he was speaking for Bestenza.
And I don't feel that.
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You know, I don't think it was an easy situation to be in.
There was a lot of pressure to shut everybody up.
And, you know, I don't know, Adrian Bastenza, that's it.
Thank you.
But I, you know, I felt like Warren was part of the group and he was there and it's legit.
His memories are legit.
And there are some interesting stories.
Apparently, there was some military secrecy with Halt, who was not giving us the full picture, although he was giving us a lot of it.
So, there are this tricky thing when you're talking to military people.
You know, sometimes people are like, hey, I want the military around and I want all these CIA people, but they're all under these national security edicts that tell them they can't reveal certain things.
So, you're in a tricky situation.
You want the expertise, but if they're under secrecy agreements, then they can't tell you things.
They can't give you information.
That's why the Elizondo story doesn't ring true, by the way, because he's still under a secrecy agreement.
And that's not the kind of thing you can violate easily.
So, somebody obviously just.
Rolled him out and said, Here, say this, you know.
So I just remember flipping back to the New York Times article, this picture, this sullen picture of Elizondo in a cafe, and they were like, disgruntled CIA man comes forward and reveals everything.
And I was like, Wow, you know, this is New York Times is getting to look almost like a kind of a clickbait YouTube channel headline.
And that picture was so ridiculously professional and all this stuff.
And I was thinking to myself, then they crafted this whole thing.
And then I went through his bio, and in the third line of his bio was counterintelligence.
And I was like, well, that's it.
So I'm sure he did great work fighting terrorism and drug rebels.
But I don't buy him as the lowly manager of the UFO desk who gets disgruntled.
It's a ridiculous story.
What do you think of Billy Meyer?
What's interesting is I feel like there's a great mix of things in the Meyer story.
And I don't think you can dismiss the Meyer story.
I think the Pleiadian aspect is real.
I do feel like there was.
Monkeying around that happened with the photos, and later it came out they were using these backup singers.
I don't think it's not easy to get a photo of a Pleiadian.
Let's start with that.
So, I don't know why those things got used or what happened with Meyer, and I do feel like there was some funny business involved with it.
The original story of Meyer, however, I had a long conversation with Timothy Good, who told me about an encounter with Meyer from 1964 in India.
So, this is how far back Meyer went with the subject.
I do think that.
He was somebody who had incredible encounters, but I don't feel that after the 70s we got the truth about them anymore.
And I think that Stevens did the best job on his story, and he has a snapshot.
And sometimes that's all we get.
Just like the Emmenager story in the Emmenager documentary is a snapshot Nixon trying to get disclosure out there.
We got this little moment.
And so Meyer had his fair share of those moments.
But whereas.
You know, like Betty and Barney Hill and people like that, they just had an honest story and that was it.
The Meyer thing went on and went into crazy places.
But I think the original story and the 70s aspect, yeah, I think we had something there.
Wow, these are great questions, everyone.
So, Najat Madri again says Has anyone spoken to Nixon's daughters regarding the time capsule and his last words?
Well, that's fascinating.
What I have from Merit and I took place in our conversations was that he did go to different law offices associated with the Nixon family and he did approach one of the Nixon's daughters' husbands and he was trying to get that information to them regarding but it was regarding, it wasn't regarding the time capsule.
It was regarding information that he had relating to Watergate and things like that and he wanted to make sure that they had it as kind of a discharging his duty Situation and that there was some response at the time, but that then they just, you know, he was supposed to get in touch, you know, they were going to get in touch and then it never happened.
So the answer is no, that it didn't happen, but there have been attempts for his Watergate information.
As far as the time capsule goes, as far as I know, no, they haven't contacted.
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But certainly the Nixon family would be aware based on the information that we've put out about it here.
Yasmin Starr, has DJ had an NDE?
Isn't that fascinating?
Well, you know, I've read a lot about them and I've had some interesting, you know, kind of experiences, but I've never had an NDE and I would be fascinated to hear more from someone who has.
So that is a great area of study for us because, Relating between these two states of being is crucial for us to understand what's going on.
And if we spent more time studying our consciousness, then all these other things would make sense.
And that's why I did, when we did a show on January 1st with Gigi Young, I was doing the kind of hardcore breakdown of the CIA involvement in the UFO thing.
And she was talking about the consciousness aspects of disclosure.
And it's this great kind of both worlds, but I think both of them have to be respected equally.
Equally much.
Now, there is a kind of consciousness aspect when you're dealing with UFOs for the really good stories.
That's why it can get away from people when they're just looking for metal fragments or whatever it is, because there's a whole consciousness interaction.
And I found when you look at genuine situations and look at genuine UFO photos, it does.
It impacts your consciousness.
Do think differently.
And I think this was something that Dr. John Mack, Professor John Mack, was getting at.
And that research is important.
That's the research where we need to increase.
Okay, let's, we're going to take about 10 more minutes of questions and then we're going to wrap up this version.
I do want to mention to everyone here that I'm going to be on Coast to Coast AM on March 1st, next Thursday, and I'll be going.
Deep into all the things that we've been talking about tonight.
So I hope everyone does tune in and I look forward to hearing you there.
But it's great to be here with everyone and a fantastic crowd, a huge crowd coming out for this.
You know, the story I think that we're working on is exciting, and this is history in the making, and everyone needs to get behind this.
And really, collectively, I think we can make this happen.
Now, I've tried to lay out some factors here, and we're going to continue over the coming weeks to figure out this version of disclosure that was happening with the Nixon administration in the 70s through the documentary, through Eminem Ager.
It's very important stuff, and that we're going to continue on that line for the foreseeable few weeks coming up here.
All right, what else do we have?
Okay, DrumSpace74 is just dying to know.
Do you think the elites have access to secret, back engineered crafts and what the agenda is?
Yes.
Absolutely.
Of course they do.
Yes.
They have had that access from as far back as the 40s, but they may even, from certain information that I've studied, they may have had crash information earlier.
It's possible.
And I do think that some of those early groups that were working on space.
Walter Bosley's work gets into that, but I do feel like Joseph Farrell's work also covers it nicely.
Excuse me, but there is something to this because they have the technology.
I don't think that they've mastered it by a long shot.
But when you're getting to the crux of what we're talking about, you are talking about alien interaction, and you are talking also about off world civilizations, advanced technology, consciousness, et cetera.
You are talking about the technology and energy aspects and how that would transform the world and how that would change economies and it would change dichotomies between peoples and groups.
And you have all these elite groups now, and there'd be a lot more sharing of the wealth and all the rest of it.
So I think that those elite groups are holding on to the old paradigm and they think that they can unleash the UFO information on their own timetable and with their own motives in mind.
But unfortunately, people have caught on to the UFO thing and have researched it for 75 years, which is why the kind of dodo bird of disclosure that stumbled out of the New York Times on December 16th was so roundly trounced by people who knew better.
And it's funny because I see more people, you know, we came out with it right away, and I'm not giving us a big pat on the back.
We knew right away what was going on with that, and we said so.
And we did multiple shows on it if you go through it.
And all the people around the UFO thing at the time, We're celebrating this as a great disclosure and all the rest of it.
And I understand it.
But at the same time, it took a long time for people to come on board from the UFO side of it.
And some of them are still clinging to the Elizondo thing.
And I've pointed them out here.
And it's not a grudge match or anything, but come on.
I mean, when you're surrounded by billionaires like Bigelow and you're surrounded by the CIA, that's not where UFO truth comes from.
UFO truth comes from.
Solid research and researchers on the ground who risk a lot.
So, you know, this is the direction that we need to go in with it.
And I would appreciate it, really, if this is some of the bigger players, you know, people who've been at it a long time, like Knapp, would stop playing games with Elizondo, who's obviously not giving us the truth.
And we've had enough.
Okay.
So, Dale Smith, the Jesuits run the biggest telescope, Lucifer, in Arizona.
They run the CIA.
Any thoughts?
Well, that is a whole other show, but I do think it's interesting when you get religious groups around the space factor, there is this thing.
And one of the things that really turned me off about Harry Reid was he was trying to bring in this aspect that, well, this is actually a thing that came from DeLong, which is that we're fighting demons and the CIA are heroes fighting demons in UFOs.
You know, I don't believe that for a second.
Now, I do think that it's worthwhile to look at if you've got an off world civilization here.
What are the protocols for figuring out what their intentions are and those things?
But I think we're trying to reinstall a kind of a superstition, you know, and a witch trial type thing atmosphere around the UFO thing.
I really have a hard time with.
But the Vatican also made big moves around the UFO thing, I think about two years ago.
And they said, well, you know, they're God's children too.
So I think this was important because they know.
That at some point they're going to have to deal with this.
The Vatican's a major aspect of it, and um, I do think culturally the society can handle it if they get the truth about it.
You know, there's a great line from uh, that's Winston Churchill's thing, which is tell the people it's very simple, you know.
Um, and he also says the truth is incontrovertible, so uh, you know, malice may attack it.
I forget the rest of that quote, but someone can get that.
Someone gets that for me and puts it up here.
I'll read it.
But I think in the end, there it is.
And that's important because that type of approach is what we need.
The secrecy wall hasn't worked, the stealing the money with the missing trillions hasn't worked.
I don't think that's the direction for it.
And I think that's where you get movements like Trump, and that's where the Sanders movement came from.
People knew that they were getting the shaft and they were looking for different avenues.
And I do feel like they're getting more results that way.
Okay, Science Churchill has a couple questions.
What about Carlos Diaz and the Mexico lightships?
And also, your thoughts on Bill Tompkins?
Mexico and the lightships?
I mean, there was a huge wave of Mexican sightings in the early 90s that are incredible that would take place at air shows and stuff.
I wonder if that's what he's talking about.
But they are, and they are fascinating.
And I remember a conversation that I had at the time saying that, you know, These ships had come back and they were looking for that Mayan civilization, and they were like, you know, wow, these guys have changed.
But yeah, it is absolutely fascinating.
And what was the other part of that?
Here's the quote about malice if you want to read it.
Churchill quote, there it is The truth is incontrovertible.
Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Thank you.
I can't read that, but you can read the name.
Thank you.
Ibosavic.
Ibosavic.
Okay.
There you go.
Yes, nicely done.
It is important because, in the end, it is a Churchill situation.
Think about the 30s.
Churchill was yelling his head off about the threat of fascism growing, and everyone was saying, oh, this extreme character and all the rest of it.
And then he winds up leading the nation against them.
So there is a thing about telling people.
I'm not saying Churchill was perfect, but there's a core factor to it, which is we can handle it, we can handle the truth.
I think that's important.
Drumstick74 is asking about the friendship case, and of course, you already did a show on that.
I think the friendship case is fascinating.
Again, it leans into Pleiadian territory, which are very human looking aliens.
In this case, these visitors were giants, very tall.
But the friendship case is all kinds of footage associated with it, tons of witnesses all over the world.
And it was kept wrapped tight from the 50s and it was let out.
I did an interview with Timothy Good going back a couple of years now, but it is on the channel.
If you go to darkjournalist.com, just look up Timothy Good.
And Timothy Good was one of the best.
And he went deep into the case and spent time with the main players.
And what did he find?
He found that the more he looked into it, the more legit the case was.
So I tend to come down on that side.
Plus, it's an interesting, interesting story.
Look, if there are off world civilizations interacting, we go back and we might look at some of those figures from the 50s and take them a little more seriously because they may indeed have been interacting with these maybe like social scientists, you know.
And I do think that some of the fundamental cases and contactees are very impressive.
I don't think there's any doubt about it.
I also want to point this out, which is there's a big rush to throw things away around certain things like Roswell and stuff because it's been so beat like a dead horse and there's been so much marketing around it from movies and all the rest of it.
The Roswell case mostly hinges on the testimony of Major Jesse Marcel, who was in charge of the atomic bomb group, the only atomic bomb group in the world at the time.
He went there, he knew the craft that we had.
He knew the balloons and all the rest of it.
When he saw that huge field of debris, he figured this thing is not from this earth.
And he was around the whole secrecy thing, kept his secret for 30 years.
Before he died, he came out.
He went to a few reunions.
The word got out about him.
He gave some interviews and told us about that story, or it would have been lost, except for the fact that they had let these newspaper headlines about it.
That is the core story.
There are a lot of good witnesses around it after the fact, and people have done work around it.
And they've made it the wild case.
You know, they've tried to turn it into the junk conspiracy Roswell, but it's a very solid case.
Just go with Marcel on the original Roswell case.
It's an important case, I think, to keep in mind.
And the friendship case, of course, I think is important also.
So, what is your source for Emmenager and Haldeman knowing each other?
It's Emmenager himself.
Yeah.
Emmenager.
Now, there was a thing that they were fraternity.
I'm still trying to.
Track this down that they were fraternity brothers.
But the thing we know for a fact is that he knew Haldeman and also that Nixon's press person, who I don't have his name with me right now, but they also interacted a lot and they got in touch with him.
And interestingly enough, Eminager, after the fact, ran into some of these guys from the Nixon administration and he said, Why did you let us into DOD and give us all this access at the time?
What was going on?
And they said, Oh, the head of the Air Force told us to give you the access.
So, they were ready to do their version of disclosure.
In my opinion, Watergate moved that around.
And I do feel that this supports the testimony of Robert Merritt and the time capsule that Nixon had placed, because it's all about UFO disclosure and dealing with this advanced being.
So, those things, one doesn't work without the other, but together we get the picture.
And I think we're going to see a lot of revelations around this period.
It's very important.
Okay, we'll do about 10 more minutes.
What do you think about Eisenhower's supposed meeting with the ETs in 1955 at Holloman?
Well, this is interesting, isn't it?
Here we go again with Holloman Air Force Base.
What is it about this base?
Here we go again, New Mexico, where most of the nuclear tests take place.
There's good solid evidence.
I've talked to Stanton Friedman about Eisenhower meeting with this group that came to visit, much in the fashion of Holloman.
Now, again, what's weird is there's sort of an echo here because Eisenhower meets these ETs, they come take them on the ship, he learns things about them.
They basically say, look, We can help you, but you've got to get rid of your nuclear arsenal because what's going on is you're threatening not only your world, but the entire sort of space time realm around you.
And they say, you know, we can give you advice.
And so basically, the Eisenhower answer, according to various sources, is something along the lines of can you help us?
With various things like militarily and all the rest.
And they sort of offer more like philosophical help.
And this group is apparently Pleiadian and they're very concerned about what's going on.
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And if you think about it, the Cuban Missile Crisis and things like that, we did dodge a nuclear bullet.
So these groups could have shown themselves to do this.
But on the ground, I do think that Eisenhower had some kind of encounter.
And what's weird is this encounter in 71, the Holloman Air Force Base.
This is odd because here's the same story, but it's later and it's not Eisenhower, it's these guys.
And then somebody moved, you know, eventually when they were talking about this, I think it was Doty or one of those guys came out and said to Linda Moulton Howe, Well, it happened in 64.
And I don't trust anything that he says.
So that date doesn't mean a whole lot to me, but I do feel that we're looking at a weird echo there around this story.
And it's always Holloman Air Force Base, but certainly let's just remove.
The things do we think that at any point a group of off world civilization visited here?
Where would they go?
And if they went to an air force base, how would they be greeted?
Um, I think those are good things to contemplate.
Alex E., uh, what do you think about Robert Hastings' work about UFOs and nukes?
Well, this is where everyone borrows from that, right?
And uh, this is great work because we have to be aware that there's all these nuclear connections.
Name a case, right?
The Rendlesham Forest case, there's all these.
Stacked nukes there in UK territory that they couldn't talk about.
So, certainly, there's a fascination there, and often they're seen turning off nuclear missiles.
So, there could be testing and being like, you know, if it comes down to it, could we shut these guys down?
Now, is that offensive too?
You know, is it something we should be concerned about?
On the military side, you'd have to be thinking it's provocative.
However, I don't think we've ever seen aggressive activity.
From off world civilizations.
There have been some things that have happened.
I think about the case where this UFO kind of grabbed that pilot in Australia in the late 70s.
A lot of those things are very unexplained.
And also, I think the abductions, the large scale abductions that have happened, and all the material around that, and the grays and all the rest of it.
I mean, it is aggressive activity.
So, in a sense, but I don't think it's, you know, the idea of them being a threat and trying to.
Attack us a la Independence Day or something like that.
I think it's more of a fantasy of the Department of Defense.
Okay, I think this is a good question to end on.
Heather Pauly, DJ.
What first convinced you UFOs are real?
That's a good question.
I've been into the subject since I was very young, and I've spent a lot of time on it.
And a lot of odd things have happened to me.
One day I was walking down the street in Brookline, and I heard a guy talking about how he had been on television, and his name was Charlie Fultz.
And I was curious and I just said, Oh, what were you on television about?
And he was actually complaining because they had preempted the show and they were going to replay it.
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And he said, Well, do you really want to know?
And I said, Yeah, yeah, I want to know.
And he said, Okay, we're going to have some coffee then.
And we went and talked for a while.
And he told me all about his encounter.
And he was part of the Allagash guys.
And that encounter in Maine that took Place and he went into great detail about it, and I think he even remembered some details while he was talking to me.
I've always wanted to talk to Charlie again, I thought he was completely authentic.
And uh, he and two twins from Mass Art, who were teachers, got caught in this abduction scenario when they were fishing in the Alligash.
The story is you know very, very interesting and compelling.
Interestingly enough, when they came back after a while, they all had incredible, I mean, they were great artists anyway, but.
They had incredible abilities all of a sudden.
And, you know, it's almost like the encounter speeded up their own interval, uh, genius metabolism.
And, uh, so things like that have happened to me.
So, you know, it's kind of signposts along the way, you might say.
But, uh, that's a good anecdote on that.
And what else you got?
Uh, you know, people feel that you sidestepped Bill Tompkins' question.
Oh, I would like you to revisit it.
Bill Tompkins, yeah.
Bill Tompkins' stories were, um, Something that I wasn't particularly, I just didn't feel any resonance to them personally.
And I felt that there were fantastic elements to them.
I remember Richard Dolan was all excited about him kind of submitting this manuscript of a book.
And then he felt that when he read it, that it had a lot of very, very juvenile descriptions of things.
And he felt that something was off.
And he actually said it was absurd and ridiculous.
Now, I don't know where Tompkins was coming from.
And I do think that his original interview with Kerry Cassidy held some promise, but I've never been attracted to the work he brought forward.
And it wasn't for me.
And I don't include it among the canon of research.
It's just something that's out there that I don't include in my own work.
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But yeah, there you have it.
Hey, somebody asked a question about Rantha.
Look, I'm going to tell you something.
That is one really powerful personality.
And there is a famous show of me interviewing Rantha, and I gave it all the gusto.
You know, they say that there's two great interviews with Rantha one with Merv Griffin from the 80s and one with Dark Journalist.
And I thoroughly enjoyed it.
And I think she did a good job.
I think she came in and told her life story.
And, uh, That's something else.
Thank you, everyone.
Okay.
Olivia, you're up.
Josh Randall says DJs should do a marathon stream eight or more hours, which is something we've been talking about.
Eight or more hours.
My goodness.
I thought about doing well.
I'm not going to let that out there, but yes, I hear what you're saying.
But this is kind of a marathon.
We get a couple of hours, and we have Tessa Dick, who's in the audience.
Thank you, Tessa.
And I know we'll be speaking soon.
And Lee.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
Lee, Brandon, Josh Randall.
All kinds of terrific people.
Thank you so much for joining us.
And we're going to have more on the Holloman connection and the Bob Ebeneger story.
In fact, I've invited Bob to come on and tell his story of doing all this.
And I think we'll get a much better picture.
But certainly, Grant Cameron is going to be on next week.
Alexandra will be back.
And hopefully, she's feeling better.
Everyone send her good vibes because they couldn't have been very pleasant for her.
We will see you next week, of course.
We have a new interview coming out and next Thursday, coast to coast a.m. with Linda Moulton Howe.
So I look forward to seeing you then.
And thanks, everyone.
We had a great crowd tonight.
Unbelievable.
Christine Taggart, thank you.
And Alexandra, how about a great round of applause for Olivia, everyone, because she did an outstanding job.