Dark Journalist and Alexandra Bruce dissect deep state secrecy, arguing that marketing opportunism obscures historical truths like the JFK assassination and 9/11. They analyze sealed Pike Commission records, alleged CIA UFO files, and Judy Wood's controversial thesis on directed energy weapons pulverizing the World Trade Center towers. The discussion critiques the "Academy to the Stars" initiative as a corporate co-optation scheme while revealing new HBO Vice News revelations linking JFK to Nazi sympathies and biological experiments. Ultimately, the episode suggests these events reflect a deliberate expansion of the national security state rather than simple accidents or foreign aggression. [Automatically generated summary]
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The 2012 Mayan Calendar Myth00:04:24
Nixon discovered it in a newspaper ad.
There's a YouTube on it.
Okay, so we're back.
And we're going to go in here for part two.
We're discovering things by the moment.
And we have tech issues with Susan Manowitch trying to join us live.
And she's from New Energy Movement.
I have an in depth two part interview coming up with her.
And she is just fascinating because she brings in all of that breakthrough energy and all the suppression around it.
And she really is one of the best people that we have out there talking about it.
So we're definitely going to get her on.
Hopefully, She'll just show up here because she has everything that she needs.
And it's just working out some kind of a tech issue on her end.
So we'll see.
But we do have Alexandra Bruce with us.
Alexandra?
It's great to have you back.
And Alexandra, of course, is the publisher of ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net.
What people don't know about Alexandra so much, because she doesn't really toot her own horn, is that she's written a half dozen books on subjects ranging from the Philadelphia experiment to science and superstition and all the rest of it.
So, you know, I never asked you actually what your favorite book is.
Was that you got to write?
I think it was the 2012 book where I looked at the 2012 meme, and it was the most intense, crazy book I've ever written because it incorporated astrophysics and archaeology and ancient history and everything.
And it was all talking about 2012 from all of these points of view converging.
And there were, including, you know, Stuff about meteors because a lot of people thought that 2012 meant that we were going to get clobbered by the Doom asteroid.
Well, it became its own industry after a while.
It was just, you know, and what's funny.
It had been set up ever since the Harmonic Convergence, I think, in 1987, and then Terrence McKenna back in 98 made a big deal out of it.
And anyone who was sort of in the new agey kind of world was aware of it, you know.
And the whole idea of the singularity, not of computers and computing power, but of consciousness.
It was a very New Age theme, and then it kind of went away.
It went away, I know.
Well, it was fascinating.
I was watching and in search of, and they mentioned Jose Arquilles.
And it's very fascinating because this was 1979, and they were quoting the year 2011.
They didn't have it clear that it was 2012 yet.
So I was thinking all that mysticism and everything about 2012.
And in the 70s, everyone thought it was 2011.
Right.
Well, no, there are rectifications of the Mayan calendar where it is in 2011.
It changed.
Then more people got on board with 2012.
That's a thing I discussed also in the book.
Yeah, you did.
You went into how the whole Mayan calendar actually worked.
That is a great book.
That is a fascinating book.
And I think what we learned is this great thing that we've been trying to point out over and over again, which is you have a theme.
That the culture can latch onto.
It's an important theme.
Like even 2012, the idea of the Mexican, the Mayan calendar is fascinating.
But then it gets into this marketing industry.
They industrialize it and they create it as a product and crank it out.
And you had people saying all these things were going to go down, you know, and it didn't happen that way because that wasn't what it was about.
Right.
Yeah.
There would have been no market for my book unless that market had been created.
But your book was kind of like looking at all of it.
Yeah.
You weren't buying into the whole 2012 thing.
You were really looking at it and saying, my God, there's a gigantic industry of superstition around this.
Well, there was a monument in Mexico in a site called Tortuguero.
If you even look it up, if you look 2012 up on Wikipedia, you'll find a reference to this thing.
It really, that's the only real, you know, because it has to do with the way that the Mayan calendar works and how the end of that cycle was going to happen on that date.
But then there is an actual reference to that date on a monument.
That survives in Mexico.
Right.
No, there's no question.
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I think that there's incredible mysteries surrounding that.
Even the Crystal Skull story, the original one, the Mitchell part of that, that is a rock solid story, the original one.
And then all these other Crystal Skulls show up.
So it is fascinating the way that these things get sold.
And I don't want to take us too far off topic, but I do want to spotlight the fact that your books are great for that because, like with the Philadelphia experiment and with Montauk, which is something you've done really deep research on.
There's a reality thread, and then there's all this kind of Intel psyop meeting up with marketing opportunism.
And that's the static that's on top.
And we really have to find that layer that's underneath.
You just nailed a phenomenon.
You have the real story, and then you have the marketing static.
You have all the fringe Intel, and then the marketing static.
And it's just sort of like the cycles of how American pop culture works.
It has to do with marketing static.
That's the only thing that's going to get us to talk or look at things.
And so now it's the JFK thing, and we're all going to talk about that, and then it's going to be something else.
And that's just to sell papers and to sell everything.
Well, it's interesting the way that they go after the JFK thing, because if they would do it properly, they could get to the core of the case.
But the whole thing is to not do that.
Well, that's exactly what this show is about, basically, is exposing the fact that they won't go after it.
That's why there's this whole wing of JFK research.
And when I have gotten intelligent people to take a good look at what actually happened involved in that case, you see every you see that the blueprint for every cover up that we've had, especially in American society over the past 50 years, you know, right down to false starts and you know, characters that come out of the blue claiming this or that that they were connected with it, uh, the government stonewalling, letting out a little bit, doing a commission, you know, so there's this whole process that takes place.
But really, whenever you encounter the deep state, how far are you going to get?
Some people.
Who've looked at this and I agree with them say that the furthest we got in relation to the JFK assassination was the Church Committee in the 70s because they explored the CIA's role in doing covert ops and overthrow of other governments without being explicitly told by the command structure, the president, the vice president, how to do that or what to do and just sort of taking it upon themselves.
So the Church Committee is a turning point there.
That's the 70s.
And we were talking about there was a point of the media working there where you had people, you know, it was widely known from this article that 400 assets from the CIA were embedded in the media and they were exposed in a Rolling Stone article.
That's the kind of journalism that you had at the time.
And that was a kind of a strange byproduct of Watergate, really.
Yeah.
And, you know, other social movements that were happening at the time.
But all of that has been subsumed back into the point where incredibly non mainstream things are being mainstreamed.
To, you know, just kind of to distract us, you know, and keep us squabbling over things like transgender marriage and whatever thing is going to be next.
You know, instead of really looking at how power is controlled and concentrated and maintained.
And by power, I don't mean just political power, but I also mean energy economies, which is something that Susan can ever connect with us.
She'll be able to talk more about.
Right, absolutely.
Well, it's funny because one of the things I was going to explore with you was about the Thrive movie.
But before we get into that, which I think was a very interesting mix of things, an attempt to kind of bring the conversation up.
And I give them a lot of credit for putting that together.
So we're going to talk about that.
But you just said something very interesting, which is so we have this point in the 70s, the church committee comes out, they're exploring abuses by the CIA, including.
Aspects of the JFK assassination.
It's Frank Church, and he's kind of taking on the establishment, basically.
Now, there are other commissions that come in, like the Rockefeller Commission, which Bush had a good deal in terms of putting it together.
And there's a Pike Commission that studied the CIA role around assassinations, including the JFK assassination.
And we can't see their records till 2040.
What on earth were they looking at?
We're looking around here at the ARRB saying, hey, You've got these records that have to do with the JFK assassination, let them out because they're mandated by law.
Well, the Pike Commission stuff, you can't even see that until 2040.
Well, didn't you say things had been reclassified that had previously been removed?
Exactly.
I mean, what kind of a society is that?
So, at a certain point.
Well, I had the feeling that a lot of, you know, for example, in the 1970s, 1975, I think, is the year that the United States had to close its embassy in Moscow because it was getting blasted with.
Basically, some kind of mind control signals that was driving everyone nuts in there.
And then they rebuilt it with like lead reinforcement or some kind of shielding like that.
It's so weird.
I remember this story.
It was on the front page of newspapers and stuff.
So that, you know, they had brainwave entrainment on the front page of the news and now it's like back to never having existed ever in anybody's.
Right.
Exactly.
Oh, we would never even think that they would fly planes into the building or mind control us and brainwave entrain us.
Oh, there's no question about it.
Well, the whole thing about the FOIA requests, the Freedom of Information Act stuff in the 70s, is fascinating because they made it easy because Carter came in and he said, Hey, we're going to open up government because we just came out of this terrible Watergate era.
And because Ford pardoned Nixon, he lost.
And Carter gets in, who was part of this process, but he looked like an outsider.
He actually was in there with Zbigniew Brzezinski and this whole kind of world.
And it's a big kind of CFR process.
Trilateral commission guy, no question about it.
He was just a nobody governor from Georgia, so he gets in and they're thinking they can control him, but he actually tries to open things up.
Um, he creates such an atmosphere around the UFO topic because he'd seen one himself as a governor and made a report.
In his Playboy interview before he actually gets in the presidency, he says, Oh, yeah, I'm going to try to open up all that stuff and get it out to the public, which we hear sometimes, you know, because UFOs actually come up in presidential campaigns for some reason.
I have no, it's interesting.
But what's interesting about Carter is he makes it easy to get FOIA requests going because one of the things that they had in place and that they reinstalled when he left was the pricing on a FOIA request.
So the simplest document on certain FOIA requests could cost you like $30,000 once you got to the 80s that you could get for something like $50 or $100 through administrative costs in the Carter administration.
So it's a very different world.
But then the CIA gets back in power because they're defanged somewhat by these commissions.
And people are starting to look at them and saying, Oh, yeah, you're responsible for the Kennedy assassinations and you've been up to other stuff that's no good.
So, you know, they take a real good look at the agency.
And we have all these major figures resigning and kind of like semi disgrace, like Angleton is forced into retirement.
And some of the other guys have died who used to protect them, like Hoover and Dulles are dead.
So it's a weird time for them.
What actually happens, and this is something that I got in my conversations with Professor Peter Dale Scott, who I think is the real premier authority on the CIA, if you want to know about it.
Raises books on the deep state.
Yeah.
American Deep State is my favorite book of his.
But Cocaine Politics is a close second if you want to learn more about them.
What a title.
That's a great one.
But in a nutshell, the CIA formed this thing or major elements of it, like Helms, for example, who was the director, who Nixon threw out in 73.
And they sort of were like, here, be the ambassador to Iran.
You know, that'll be a good job for you to keep you out of our hair.
That's pretty major because.
Nixon and Helms had a weird relationship because they knew each other when Nixon was vice president and he was setting up this whole Operation 40 thing to overthrow Castro.
And elements of that operation were supposedly in the DNC, and that's what started Watergate.
Because when they broke back in there, the Nixon administration wanted to get those documents back so they didn't get used against Nixon in the 1972 election.
Long story short, they go to Helms for cover on that after Hunt and CIA people.
Like the Cubans who got caught there.
And what happens is Helm said, Well, I'm not going to do anything about it.
And Nixon sends an emissary off and he says, Look, tell him this will open up the whole Bay of Pigs thing.
And the guy he sent, Alderman, he realized later that the Bay of Pigs thing meant the JFK assassination and the CIA's connection to it.
And so he's basically threatening them Look, you want to open up this Watergate thing, we're in trouble.
Our guys were caught in there.
It's going to open up the JFK assassination for you.
And so Haldeman goes into Helms' office and says, Look, you know, the chief says it's going to open up the whole Bay of Pigs thing.
And he said, as cool as a cucumber, Helms, who was really like Mr. Ice, freaked out, practically jumped on his desk and said, This has nothing to do with the Bay of Pigs thing, and just like turned blood red.
So, you know, we see that they had a lot to hide there.
And this is this incredible untangling period where Nixon gets thrown out, Ford, who had been on the JFK Warren Commission.
Gets put in, and we know a lot about Ford from Kathy O'Brien's testimony.
So, you know, we're in this whole different type of picture there where I think that the media had to step up on some level, and there was a move towards openness that was happening.
Yeah, well, there were so many other, you know, cultural things that were happening as well.
It seemed like a true populist voice was being heard.
Like the jig was up, the squares were on the outs, but whatever.
They gathered their power back together, and basically from the 80s on, from Reagan on, they've just had a stranglehold on everything.
Well, it's fascinating because the reason I mentioned Helms is Professor Scott mentioned that Helms.
During this period, he kind of gets offshored because the Iran crisis happens.
He's not in there as the ambassador anymore.
So, what can he do?
So, he and these other ex CIA agents get together and they form something called the Safari Club.
And the Safari Club is like these arms smugglers and all these foreign heads of intelligence.
And they get together and they kind of keep an eye on the world, but they're no longer in the CIA.
It's like this floating entity.
And the safari club became the kitchen cabinet for the Reagan administration before they got in.
They were advising them.
And they pulled off the whole October surprise, which was to go to the Iranians and say, look, hold those hostages just a little while longer so that Carter doesn't get the, you know, this is a Bush operation, Bush and Gates.
And so Carter doesn't get the accolades of freeing those hostages.
You know, just he knew they were working a deal.
He said, look, we'll give you a better deal.
Just wait till we get in office.
And, um, So, this is kind of fascinating because, like you said, right afterwards, Casey is the really ruthless CIA director in the 80s for Reagan.
And that's where you get Iran Contra.
That's where you get all of this Middle Eastern bombings in Lebanon.
That's where you get so much of the tension in Nicaragua and mining the harbors and all this real wildness.
So, I think a lot of covert stuff, a lot of black market drug stuff really starts.
The narco state really starts to kick in in a big way.
And I guess a lot of that is all.
Kind of the Bush crime family.
Yeah.
Well, Bush has a great connection to Nixon, as we know.
Right.
He or his group put an ad in a Southern California newspaper to find the most scumbag politician possible to be recruited and financed and basically become their puppet.
And I guess that's how, you know, there's a YouTube on it.
Maybe I'll run it tomorrow.
Yeah, right, right.
I've seen it, but I did see an article about it, I don't know, a decade ago, and then I just Googled.
The keywords to it, and I saw that there was actually a video on it.
So that's fascinating.
You mentioned tomorrow, and well, I mean, Nixon is such an enigma, and we have to go over the Nixon Bush thing.
But since you mentioned tomorrow, that is the 54th anniversary of the JFK assassination, November 22nd.
And tonight, later, I'm going over to Coast to Coast and I'm doing a program with Linda Moulton Howe on the JFK assassination, what's come out in those records.
And some of the explosive work, I think, that's happening around the fact that Douglas Caddy has come forward.
And I have a couple of interviews with Caddy, I have a new one coming out.
But he was E. Howard Hunt's close friend, and he was the lawyer for the Watergate burglars.
And he came forward and said that Hunt had told him that the reason JFK was assassinated was because he was about to give our most vital secret away.
To the Soviets.
And the most vital secret was that the alien presence was the UFO file.
And Kennedy wanted to create this atmosphere of cooperation with the Soviets.
And it was over this UFO file alien presence that he was assassinated.
Now, it's interesting, you know, we get stories and we get quality of stories, and they're all on different levels.
Sometimes it's a personal experience, sometimes it's a story third hand that somebody told somebody else.
But here we have a CIA super spy, somebody who had been there from the start, who worked closely with Dulles, who worked closely with Helms.
And actually, he was the ghostwriter for the Dulles book, The Craft of Intelligence.
I mean, really deep in there.
And he's saying to his friend before he goes off to prison for the Watergate crimes, he's telling his friend Douglas Caddy that he put up there to be the representative lawyer for the burglars that it was over the UFO file.
Now, when I did Agent Oswald, the documentary, Caddy got in touch with me and said, You know, your documentary is correct.
And there's more.
Let me tell you the more.
And we got together and he said, This is what happened.
So we have something on the record there that I think is powerful and maybe is beyond anything that we've heard in the previous decade on the UFO side or on the JFK side, because he's a major historical figure.
It's really, people go running around after different disclosure ideas.
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But here's this central figure in history telling us.
The position of the CIA through his friend.
It's not even a CIA smokescreen story.
It's something said in private confidence.
I do think it's interesting, especially when you combine that with the fact that Hunt is the one who came forward and said that LBJ with the CIA was behind the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
And fascinatingly enough, when he came forward, none of the media picked up on that story, although he was a major figure from Watergate and the CIA.
Incredible.
I mean, just it gives you an idea of how completely controlled by the CIA the press is.
Well, when we were talking about how they were making the RT guy register as a foreign agent, I mean, and we saw the clampdown, you and I actually fought against it very heavily when after the election they came forward during Thanksgiving weekend, sneak attack with fake news.
And they came up with it and they came up with the proper not list.
And they had all these independent sites saying, oh, they're part of the Kremlin.
And the most ridiculous sites, too.
I mean, somebody who put this together, they didn't know what they were doing.
But this was the media hit job.
So we can see just, you know, in terms of the media and the situation and the groups that control them, we're in one of the worst periods for media freedom.
Yeah, and they can get away with it because it's so unsophisticated and poorly informed about the so called, you know, the opponent.
You know, they don't really know which websites to even choose to demonize properly.
I mean, some of them are right, obviously, meaning that they're good.
But yeah, and it's just because, also, after so many decades of just grinding down the educational system and things, you have a population that is just not informed enough to sink on its feet whatsoever.
And it just, you know, I mean, I think you have to be sort of focused or to pay attention or notice that things are amiss.
I mean, I do see a growing consciousness of people in general, just regular, everyday people who know that the government is just lying.
That's so many lies, and the news is not worth spending any time on.
Yeah, and it's interesting too because you don't want to get into a situation where, and we've tracked this too with the Flat Earth movement, where it's a temptation to try to throw everything out, right?
Oh, I don't believe anything.
I don't believe gravity.
People love to seize on gravity because it is kind of a mystery.
I wouldn't be surprised.
If the entire flat earth thing was cooked up in some little intel, oh, absolutely, and just said, When can we unleash this?
Because we need it.
Yeah, I mean, it's like it's a Hail Mary pass for utterly desperate.
I mean, it's just, it's also kind of a joke, it's kind of demonic.
Yeah, it really preys on the poor education that people have.
A lot of the arguments, they're persuasive if you don't know anything.
Yeah, it's so cynical and it does prey on the cynicism that's developed.
When you have enough 9 11s and false flag attacks that they've lied to you about on TV, people are going to stop believing everything.
And it culminates in the flat earth phenomenon.
This is it.
And that's actually part of the whole globalist trip lose faith in your state governments and accept this kind of corporate ruling state.
It's very 1984.
It's very reeks and wrecks, you know.
Yeah, absolutely.
People.
Everyone's just dumbed down.
But you must find it interesting because the JFK topic, like you run so many topics in ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net, but it's almost like an unconscious knowing that people have about the JFK assassination that something took place here that skewed history, that took us into this kind of completely different course.
That we were getting closer there to putting the CIA back in a box.
You know, Kennedy was demilitarizing.
And he was definitely working towards cooperation with other countries and opening up the UFO factors we've gone through ad nauseum.
And, you know, there's tons of evidence to substantiate this.
And I think it's interesting because he was ahead of his time, and that was part of the issue.
But also, this world, this kind of world that they were building, There with the Kennedy administration.
The thing that we got was this Johnson administration, the cronyism of Johnson and Nixon, and the whole Vietnam War and everything came out of that.
So it is kind of fascinating when you think about the precipice that we were on.
It was like we were between two worlds and we got the other one.
And it's fascinating when you bring it all around to a system like the one that we have now, which people have lost a certain amount of faith in.
I do feel like if we can come to that realization and demand the kind of transparency from our institutions and hold the corporations accountable, you know, and keep an eye on people like Jeff Bezos, who's, you know, becoming the richest man in the world and partnering up with the CIA and buying Whole Foods.
I mean, you know, these are things that really lend themselves to scrutiny.
This is somebody who's very active in space, also.
So I think that what we can do.
Really, to combat that kind of cynicism is to kind of retool our efforts around the things that we know and to really expect that kind of transparency and demand it on a citizen level.
Absolutely.
That's what we have to do.
We have to take responsibility for this.
Yeah, because you know it.
I mean, here you are, you're a published author, you have an Ivy League education, and you're doing independent news because that's really.
Where you're going to be able to come forward and speak the truth about things.
I mean, you lived through a CIA coup in Brazil, for heaven's sake.
Well, I didn't live through it, but Brazil did.
It was sort of before I was born.
But yeah, my mother, she was already here.
But yeah, Brazil, like so many other countries in South America, had a CIA, you know, like sort of a sneaky coup done on it.
It was bloodless as things in.
Large manifestations tend to be.
Brazil has the highest gun crime rate in the planet, I think higher than the rest of the world put together by a few thousand, actually.
But it does not do political, it doesn't have false flag stuff, and it doesn't have, it's a very different pattern of violence there.
Fascinating.
I do think South America was heavily targeted.
As we know, it was targeted when the Nazis were in power.
They set themselves up very nicely.
And Juan Perón helped sort of shepherd them in after the war was over.
I guess everybody knew.
And when you talk to Argentinians of a certain age, they all knew that there were tens of thousands of Nazis that had been given new IDEs and things.
And I met a few and I spoke to them about it.
It's fascinating.
But what was one of the things that came out, another thing that came out in these JFK files was that Hitler went to Venezuela and died in Venezuela where nobody was looking.
And there is such a story about Hitler and, you know, that whole thing with the burned bodies afterwards.
It turned out that the Russians, that was a female skull back with them.
And they found that out.
So that story is not what happened.
And you can sort of look into their minds and say, you know, we can't let this out, but this guy got away.
But he certainly.
Of course, if anyone knew the CIA, I mean, everyone knew it in the intelligence community, I'm sure, at certain levels.
If the whole population of Argentina knew, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I mean, he did apparently live in Argentina off and on, but I guess that he ended up dying or spending a large time in Venezuela also, which, as I said, is not exactly known for a Nazi hideaway.
So, less obvious.
Right, right.
No, they're more Argentina.
Argentina, Paraguay, Bolivia.
It's fascinating, though, too, because.
When you look at it, if you look at the work of Joseph Farrell, for example, that Nazi leadership, not the German military, but the actual Nazi leadership, most of them escaped to South America.
I mean, and it seems, you know, if you look at Lavenda's work with rat lines and all that, that they were assisted in that endeavor.
There's no question about it.
So these are the great mysteries around the end of the war.
But one of the weirdest things is when we take all those paperclip scientists here with us and we start.
The space program, and these people become key figures in the JFK assassination.
And I'm going to run through a couple of these, and then we're going to take some questions.
And we're going to have Yvonne, who's done an incredible job moderating this.
And her channel, of course, is Dark Brew.
She's Groovy Bean.
And so she'll join us after I run through these and we'll go through some questions.
But I thought these pictures were interesting and we're going to see how we can get through these.
This picture is fascinating.
And I'm going to go through this tonight on Coast to Coast with Linda Moulton Howe.
But we have Alan Dulles here and he's standing with Ed Lansdale.
And there is Charles Cabell, who is Dulles's deputy to the CIA.
And then on the end is General Twining.
Interesting thing that came out in the JFK records was about Cabell, because his brother was the mayor of Dallas, which we knew during the JFK assassination.
However, what we didn't know is that the brother was a CIA asset.
That had just come out.
So that is something that we have.
But when I look at this, I see this whole.
You know, Twining, if anyone knows anything about the Twining memo, that's the fundamental document that proves the military was looking into UFOs because his whole thing is about we've got these flying disks out there, what can we do about them?
And, you know, this is a memo that's on record.
So he is a fascinating figure to be standing here with Dulles and Ed Lansdale.
And Lansdale, of course, every country he walks into, you know, whether it's Vietnam or Laos, suddenly the government's overthrown.
So he had a deep black background and, you know, I do feel that there are people who, like Fletcher Proudy, for example, who identify him as being actually in Dealey Plaza on the day of the assassination.
And he had just retired that October.
So he's a fascinating character.
I can't get into his entire history here.
But it is pictures like that which remind me of the picture that I've showed here, which is Bobby Inman, the former deputy CIA director, along with George Junides, who ran, who was the psychological warfare operator.
Who ran the Oswald op, basically, and who also was the CIA liaison to the House Assassination Committee in the 70s?
When we look at these people and we're starting to get a feel for what it is, and it's some kind of weird mix because, of course, Inman is so strongly associated with the UFO file and actually came out and said, Yes, you know, he's one of the highest ranking figures who came out and said, Yes, we re engineered these crash retrievals and got this advanced exotic technology out of it.
When you see him standing together with the guy who ran the Oswald op, it's very strange.
It's like these pieces of history come together.
And we're looking at these cover ups this way.
A couple of other things I wanted to mention here, which has to do with Antarctica, actually, which is we have Admiral Byrd, and Admiral Byrd, who really came out during one of his expeditions on his way back.
Gave this incredible speech and it's been analyzed over and over again.
But he gave this incredible report to this press agency on the plane, actually.
And it was a newspaper in Chile.
And he said, We're basically, we have a new enemy.
And then he basically went down there and saw these discs flying all over the joint.
Now, Nexus Magazine, I want to point everyone out to this, and I'm going to post some of these on Dark Journalist, has just come out with these photos that were submitted to it.
And they look incredibly realistic about discs flying over Antarctica in 1947.
As part of this Admiral Byrd expedition.
Now, I don't know if those photos are authentic, but I will say that Nexus really does a good job around this topic.
So, I would take a close look at them.
You can find them actually at earthfiles.com, which is Linda's done some of them.
She's put a few of them up there.
And we're going to be looking at them some more.
But here's some strangeness.
Whenever we get around the JFK assassination, we're always encountering and rubbing up against this deep state apparatus.
And so, in the case of the Texas School Book Depository, as I mentioned in the last broadcast we did, it was owned by D.H. Bird.
Who they used to call Dry Hole Bird because he was a lousy oil man, but he did really well after the JFK assassination buying this company called LTV, which went from like $2 million to $50 million almost within a two year period.
But anyway, Bird was the cousin of Admiral Bird.
And then Admiral Bird was very close to John Connolly, who, of course, was the governor of Texas who was shot in the car with Kennedy but survived.
So it's always unusual.
Just like when we encounter Oswald, and I have this picture that we're using in the report of Oswald at 15 in the Civil Air Patrol.
And the Civil Air Patrol was founded by Bird, interestingly enough.
And Bird, who owned the school book depository, it was a very easy maneuver to kind of place Oswald in there and have him set up as the Patsy.
So Oswald himself is living with his wife at the Payne household, and the Paynes are.
Working for Bell Helicopter, Michael Payne, his superior is Walter Dornberger, who's one of the paperclip Nazis that we brought over here.
So we're getting this picture.
It's like these connections are palpable.
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And when you look at it, you're coming up against this invisible structure that is so associated with these deep events.
And it's just this undeniable presence.
So with that, I'm going to say if Groovy Bean is out there, that she can join us.
Here, and I know she put together some questions from this time and last time because last time they're going so fast, there was no way I could catch them and keep my train of thought going.
So she can join us and ask questions.
But, you know, do you find that, Alexandra, whenever you get into this kind of deep event situation, there's always these connections carrying you off into that?
You know, it's like we're connecting suddenly.
When we're investigating the JFK assassination, we're coming up against NASA and the aerospace industry.
This is what Jim Garrison said.
Well, yeah, again, because that's what I was saying you'll always find this node of alternative energy and where the power is.
Wherever the power is, the deep state is going to be, period.
So that's just, they go together and they'll always be together unless somebody tears them apart.
And you're just the woman for the job.
So you're with us, Yvonne.
Yes.
Hello.
It's working.
So many tech issues this evening.
Isn't it fascinating?
Hey, as we get close to big announcements, this is what happens.
Ooh, big announcements.
Very exciting.
Can't wait to hear that.
Yes.
You just did a show last night, and your show is Dark Brew.
Yes, Dark Brew, Monday night, 7 p.m. Pacific.
Time, Lisa Tenney, and I do a little somewhere between woo and mainstream.
You guys together are great.
I think it's an excellent thing.
Thank you.
You know, you know a good deal about a number of subjects.
So I think it's going to be fascinating the more you guys do together.
Well, thank you.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
We're having fun, and it's a good way to reach out to the community, too, and the chats going.
Speaking of chats, your chat here is phenomenal.
Excellent.
And I'm not a bot.
That's more like it.
What do you have for questions?
Okay.
I got a big question, but I'm guessing you want to save that for last.
Okay.
You're the one.
But I do want to remind everybody don't forget that Dark Journalist is on Coast to Coast tonight.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I can't remember that myself.
So far, so good.
Absolutely.
Well, here's one from Tom Will the year of disclosure continue in 2018?
Alexandra, that's for you.
Yes.
I mean, the JFK stuff, yeah, that's when it's going to come out, I guess, sometime next April.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the deadline that Trump said.
I think it's fascinating, really, that they even want this six month period.
You have to wonder what kind of scrambling is going on in there.
But if you're talking about UFO disclosure, I will say this that we did a program where Alexandra was talking about this kind of fascinating incident.
Linda Cortile, is that her name?
Yes.
That's so interesting.
And I think that there were forces there that were pushing in the 90s for disclosure.
We had John Mack and Susan Manowich.
Who I was referencing earlier as the president of the New Energy Movement.
She was one of the people who came to MAC as an experiencer and went through this group.
And I think they called the group Peer, actually.
And Alexandra, you'd had some experience with MAC also.
Yeah, I went to Peer also, to the Peer Building, and was regressed once by John MAC.
The Program for Extraordinary Experience Research.
That's what it is.
And well, see, he did it.
And I think what he did was smart, which he kind of institutionalized.
This and I heard in the beginning that they had to do it in basements and hidden offices and stuff because he couldn't be seen doing this right away.
So it's kind of this fascinating period of time.
Yeah, it was right after I was there that he, I guess, got investigated by Harvard.
Yeah, they tried to unseat him, but he won, which was pretty extraordinary.
It was so weird because I found out by listening to Daniel Sheehan that.
And the lawyer for the Society of Jesus, also.
But they wondered at the time who was pulling the plug and sort of blowing the whistle on Mac and what he's doing with these alien abductees trying to get to the truth.
And he found out it wasn't the government at all.
It was Time Magazine.
Wow.
So, you know, you have to wonder sometimes where the real kind of.
Where is the power?
Exactly.
Is time running the CIA?
It's flipped around.
So that was a good one.
Thank you.
This groovy bean.
Sure.
Let's go.
Well, because of the year of disclosure, and we're kind of between JFK and the ufology, will that guy, this is from Twisted Hippie, will that guy from Blink 182, Tom DeLong, actually get any disclosure or is he a shell?
What do you think?
I think he's manipulated.
I think that he doesn't, he's out of his depth and doesn't really have enough time into this field to really know what he's doing.
Yeah.
Think about the word depth and then think about Tom DeLon.
Right.
We had some problems there.
Now, if that's the face of disclosure, it's over.
They won.
And you'd have to think that there's too many CIA people popping up around him, including Bobby Inman, who he listed as like an unofficial advisor or something.
And I'm so addicted to showing the picture of Inman with Joe and Ittys because it's just when I saw it, it blew me away because I think it's one of those pictures that you just, oh my God, you know.
We have this issue really with people coming out and trying to market disclosure.
And, you know, I mean, it's one thing to build a community and have memberships and stuff like that.
But when you're trying to sell, you know, sell sneakers and t shirts.
And it's disclosure and it's Ascension and it's.
Oh, yeah.
And it's a stock portfolio.
It's a corporate.
How much money do you want to put down that in 18 months that thing gets investigated and blown away?
And they're like, well, it's okay.
You know, it wasn't our fault.
There was this guy.
He had a drug problem.
He was at the top.
You know, he was an ex punk rocker.
What do you want?
See, there's no risk.
I have a lot of problems with all that Academy to the Stars.
I thought it was one of the worst rollouts in history.
And I found those books very unconvincing.
Peter Lavenda, who they've enlisted to kind of go through some of this stuff, is an excellent author.
But he doesn't need Tom DeLong.
I mean, maybe DeLong can finance him.
But let's face it, I mean, Tom DeLong, like some other things that have happened this year, I'm sort of hearing the sounding of the bottom of the barrel.
And, you know, I'm going back and all over again.
Yes.
I'm going to, you know, characters like Stanton Friedman or John Mack in my mind.
These are the people who have studied and done the work and are not putting on a circus.
And when you get into the circus, you become a plaything for Intel on one side and marketing on the other.
So, no, I don't have a lot of nice things to say about DeLong and, you know, especially for Academy to the Stars.
It's kind of.
Sorry to be back there.
You hear that?
Now you're talking.
Sorry.
So we're having 10 tickets on his feet.
We were all night.
Leading up to.
I was going to say he's going to fit right into the New Age cult agenda.
That was no question.
Probably stirred that.
What's the name of that thing that YouTube had for kids to report and censor and whatever?
That's how I feel Tom DeLong is.
I mean, he's like a YouTube sensor for meat space.
He's sort of like a cat herder and a wannabe cat herder.
That's good.
Sort of regulating.
This is, you know, Oshtar Command.
This is the way to go.
You make a great point, actually.
I think they try these different ops, and they've done it three times with DeLong.
And the first two times failed, and now they're trying this one.
The first rollout failed.
As a matter of fact, I did a podcast on it in 2016, and on the front of his book, it said fantasy novel.
And I said, Well, it's a fantasy novel, like he said.
And they were like, No, no, it's part of this new movement, you know.
And they had great people being used, like George Knapp and stuff.
I mean, Knapp was one of the best UFO investigators that we ever had.
And he was being kind of thrown into this whole thing covering Tom DeLong.
I also think there's an issue here, and I want Alexandra to speak to this.
These people that are out there who've done it for a long time, and I want to say people like Leslie Kane, George Knapp, who've been great.
They've been fantastic.
But do they get to a point where they're like, you know what?
We've been so stonewalled and we've had the kind of short end of the stick for so long trying to deal with the UFO factor that when this thing comes up and it seems like there's some paparazzi or some financing money around it and it might actually break through, do they kind of suspend their judgment, move in that direction, and out of sheer kind of.
You know, being beaten down on the subject for so many years.
Or wishful thinking, you know, they think maybe they got a kid who's gonna break the story and maybe they suspend, they forget their own past, they forget how they've been used, and they fail to see how the kid is a tool.
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I don't know.
Yeah.
Well, let's think about something like Bob Lazar.
I mean, you know, Lazar, for whatever anyone can say about him, exposed Area 51, which is incredible.
And he added it to our vocabulary, he put it in the public vernacular.
So it's an incredible thing.
And to think of that and the work that Knapp did with someone like that, and then you think of DeLong coming, you know, it's like two different worlds.
I can't equate it.
And I'd rather wait for something really good and work towards something really incredible, like Forbidden Knowledge TV, you know, or New Energy Movement, or Dark Journalist, or Solari, or Groovy Bean, or Giza Death Star.
You know, I'd rather deal with that, you know, and rather than.
Put my hopes on some kind of weird marketing scheme that's coming out of the blue to promote this thing.
I mean, the other weirdness, of course, is that the whole DeLong Podesta thing makes it all seem incredibly manipulated.
I mean, we won't even get it.
That's the perfect echo with that sound, by the way.
So, yes, absolutely.
But it is a good question, and I'm glad this is something that we're talking about.
And then chat here has a ton of questions.
Excellent.
Thank you for being here.
So, and Lawrence Henney had several questions, and I'm going to lump one in because we have a big question we have to get to, too.
Some big news.
But, Lawrence, what is the extent of evidence of the money trails that were held in the WTC World Trade Center buildings destroyed on 9 11?
And how about LaRouche's four laws introduced today?
JFK would.
Fascinating.
Alexandra, yes.
Money in the World Trade Center?
Or gold?
Let's see, money.
Money trails, not gold.
Money trails.
You mean money trails for.
You know, the only thing I know about money is that Cantor Fitzgerald was one of the largest issuers of.
Oh.
Sellers of T-bills.
Unbelievable.
And I actually knew a lot of those guys.
They were my clients.
I just helped a guy with his wedding the week before.
It was outrageous.
I think there's one thing we can say about 9-11, and you can speak to this, Alexandra, which is that incredible.
Double indemnity policy that the was it Silverstein took out on the towers before they were hit.
I think that that's such an unusual thing that that happened the summer before.
And I do feel there's been all those rumors that there was all this gold at the bottom of the towers and it melted.
There was a truck that was halfway out of the tunnel and it was trapped in the collapsed rubble of the building.
Can we use this 9 11 being raised as an excuse to mention the?
Incredible work of Judy Wood and the unusual conclusions that she came to is on the physicist's side about energy weapons that were used to take down the towers.
It's highly contentious every time I run something that refers to her work and the toasted cars and the very strangely behaving.
I mean, one of the greatest photographs shows twisted, like molten I beams and piles of paper.
I think flames coming out of the metal, but paper right next to it completely not burning.
You know, just to show you that, you know, there's a thing, a technology that I just learned about where you can excite and create fires.
By directing masers, which is focused microwave beam, onto metals.
Metals, in particular, the atomic structure of metals, they have very weak.
That's why they oxidize so easily.
That's why rust and the green stuff on copper and whatever.
That's because they have two electrons in the outer shell and they oxidize very easily.
And so that's what masers do they ignite the oxygen grabbing potential of metals that.
Causes this very particular kind of fire that can't be done with paper.
But if you hit a maser beam and a certain kind of maser beam at a metal, you can excite and create a fire.
And you see images of precisely that in Jimmy Woods photos.
I think it's so interesting.
I think the directed energy weapons thesis around 9 11 is the only thing that explains what happened there.
The pulverizing, I mean, you see demolitions, but the pulverizing is.
You know, there's even one, there's like an I-beam that's up.
And then you see it just like fairy dust.
It just turns into like some kind of a Disney cartoon.
It's amazing.
It is really amazing.
I think her work is worth looking into for people who haven't.
And there's no question that her work's been interfered with and that there's a lot of disinformation around her and the work, but she's certainly done some amazing things.
It's definitely worth looking into, but I must say, whenever I run their stuff, I just get assaulted by the.
Well, the 9 11 community, and we should mention this real quickly, is fractured the way the JFK research community is fractured.
By design, yeah.
So they split them into different camps and they have them hating each other, and you have a whole camp which is associated with the architects and engineers for 9 11.
And then ultimately, it's sort of like we should get past the how, which is all very interesting.
Like, how the hell did they pulverize them?
Two giant skyscrapers, but it's more like who and why.
I mean, we kind of even know the why, which was to do this, amp up the national security state to levels that were heretofore uncharted, create TSA, create the eavesdropping, the total spying all the time.
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But it's more the who, so that we can prosecute them and throw them away.
That's a great point.
That's a great point.
To put our own internal differences away about how things happened and to start to understand the larger picture of who was involved.
It's not easy.
And again, when you're on the independent side, you don't have the resources of something like a mainstream media.
But you have the ability to go outside the box, and that's crucial if you're going to be reporting on the truth.
And I think that that's the real advantage that the alternative media has.
But at the same time, as it comes in and it's sort of taking some of that, what they call market share on the media side, when they look at it, it gets targeted and imitated, you know, so that you have these things that come out, like we were talking about flat earth and all these ridiculous things.
Because, and I think the DeLong thing has a little bit of this too it starts to imitate the real thing and pull those people away and say, look, I'm alternative.
Yeah.
No, but they're not, you know, they're not independent.
Media, they come in, their operations inside of independent media.
So, anyway, we could go on about that all night.
Yes.
Yes.
And notice I'm being real calm for once.
You're a good sport.
I'm trying.
Okay.
Are you ready for the big question, Daniel?
Lay it on.
All right.
This is from Ari.
And the question is Is the chat and everybody tuned in ready?
Are you?
Dark journalist.
What?
Just what is your big announcement coming for this month?
That's a good question.
That's a great question.
And I am going to announce right now that with Alexandra Bruce and Susan Manowich from New Energy Movement, I did an episode with HBO on the JFK assassination and the unusual UFO links to it.
And that is something that is coming out.
I don't have the program listing yet, but it's coming out over the next week.
And I'm very fascinated to see what they did with it.
And it looks like there are more things to come on that.
And I will do a regular announcement about where and when to see it.
But it will be on the Vice News show on HBO sometime in the next week.
And we'll let you know.
But it's going to be exciting.
And the people that I worked with over there, I thought did an amazing job.
And, you know, I'm very excited to see what they came up with.
Did you just say Dark Journalist is going to be on HBO?
I did, indeed.
That is that kind of announcement that you really, you know, when you got something big to say, you might as well say on HBO.
Do we get a DJ?
Woohoo!
Yeah.
We're excited now.
Yeah, this is big.
Congratulations, right?
And I'm sure the chat and everybody's supporting you as well.
Yeah.
Alexandra was there.
She had a great time.
I think that, you know, it was perfect timing for all of us.
It all just came together.
It's phenomenal.
It is phenomenal.
Now, Are you also the second part to this fabulous question?
Are you going to be at any conferences in 2018?
Excellent question.
The last one I did was Ireland Awakens with Miles Johnston.
He did an outstanding job putting together a really eclectic group of really like going after different subjects.
And I might be doing something with Miles in 2018, but the conference, there's going to be a conference announcement.
Coming up, but I can't make it for sure till about mid December.
But it involves Alexandra as well, and it looks like it's an event that's happening in the spring.
How exciting!
We'll be doing that, and I'm really looking forward to coming out with some public appearances in 2018 because it's important.
You know, very often you learn a lot in the public, and that's why we're doing these live events and why we're doing the live.
Broadcast here too.
The feedback is so crucial and important.
I really love doing my reports, but there are times when you really want to interact and get a feel for what's happening on the ground with people.
And that's why the public events are so crucial.
And it's a wonderful connection, too, that whole vibe and just woo, yes.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know conferences real well.
You've been to the best.
Oh, do I?
Yes.
And I'm going to pull a question out of the chat from ZYX in regards to HBO.
What exactly are you doing on HBO?
Based on my research around the JFK assassination and the UFO aspects, the UFO file aspects around the assassination, including some of the research that we've talked about on the show.
But certainly there's a UFO connection involved in the JFK assassination.
And I think, in a way, it's bigger.
You know, it's such a big subject, even when you go after the assassination itself.
And, you know, people could say, well, you know, You're doing all this work around the JFK assassination, working with these great researchers.
You can get so far with it, but leave well enough alone.
Don't bring the UFO part in.
But unfortunately, the UFO part is the crucial linchpin around the JFK assassination, in my opinion.
And Douglas Caddy's work with me coming forward, I think, is the real signal that there have been all these strands of information around this topic and the UFO file.
And the secrecy around that UFO file and that Kennedy wanted to share it has been out there.
And I discussed it with the late Jim Mars before he passed away.
We had a very good understanding about it from his research.
So I feel like I'm on very solid ground with it.
But working with HBO, I'll tell you, that whole team and the Vice people are so professional.
And I think that they're willing to break new ground.
And I'm willing to give it a try and break some new ground with them.
Yes.
It would be amazing.
It would be amazing if.
You know, alternative could go more mainstream.
There's no question.
There's no question.
Well, this is the time to try it.
And there's too many questions out there, I think, that need to be answered outside of a mainstream structure, outside of the mainstream part.
And the alternative and independent sources need to stay alternative and independent.
But if there are, you know, if there are occasions when we can work with larger media entities who are committed to bringing the truth forward, Or at least to giving their audience the option of what the truth may be, then we're going to look for opportunities to work with them.
It's just so exciting.
I think it's a complete breakthrough.
And this is like part of the whole event process itself.
I got to tell you, this is huge.
Yeah.
It's really colored the past couple of months.
I mean, I think it's been kind of fantastic.
Kind of.
Come on, Daniel.
Give it some love.
Yes.
I think you got the right idea.
Absolutely.
So, would you like some more questions?
How are we on time?
Okay.
Let's take two more questions and then we'll wrap it up.
How does that sound?
Okay.
Do you want one in regards to HBO or one from earlier?
No, no, well, it's whatever you think is good.
Okay.
Let's do the one.
This one's from Freddie.
Hello, Freddie.
Here's a question Why release Hitler information in the JFK files?
Beautiful point.
Excellent point.
I kept asking myself, first of all, let's think about this.
Joseph Farrell made this point in a blog entry.
What is Hitler information doing in a JFK file?
Let's start with that.
How did that end up there?
Wasn't he kind of a Nazi?
Wasn't his dad a Nazi kind of sympathizer?
Well, his dad wasn't a Nazi, but you're right.
In 1940, when all of this was going on with Hitler, he was the ambassador to the UK and he made some very unfortunate statements about how it was democracies might have a hard time basically resisting, and it was kind of useless to resist this fascist wave that was coming in.
And it ruined his entire, Joseph Kennedy's.
Political career.
But I think Jeff Kay wrote something about something where he admired Hitler's.
Oh, in 1936, during that whole Olympics craze where Germany hosted the Olympics, he went over there.
Well, you know, he had a German spy girlfriend too.
So he had reasons for going over there.
And there's some weird, wild footage of him walking by Marlena Dietrich on a beach.
It's bizarre.
But in any case, Yeah, when he was a young man, so what would he have been in 36?
He would have been 20 years old.
And so, you know, he's over there in Germany and he writes in his diary, my God, the German people are united.
I wonder what we could accomplish if we were that united in the United States.
But I don't think anyone knew really at the time the kind of atrocities that were to come and the things that were going on behind the scenes.
Yeah, right.
He was.
Uh, and what's fascinating, this is a very interesting tidbit that I found out, which was that Richard Helms, who became the CIA director, was the person who interviewed Hitler in 1936 for the Olympics.
So it's weird, you know, you always have this kind of like thing in the CIA, it's they they wanted to be Hitler, probably.
Well, I'm saying that they are right, they accomplished their aim, but they are basically the Nazi party in America, the Nazi.
I would call it a distraction.
It was put in there so people could say Hitler in Argentina or Hitler in Colombia, whatever they said.
Was Venezuela or Colombia?
I thought he said Colombia, yeah.
But just like the Martin Luther King sex life thing, these aren't things we care about.
I mean, once in a while, you know, stuff is just going to be in there.
But I do think that they place things in there and say, like, well, this will really turn it upside down.
So, excellent question.
Yes, absolutely.
Okay, and I see Freddie was miffed because I didn't use.
The person's first name.
You'll get it later.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
And then, but Z then followed this one up ZYX on how much of the CIA is Nazi.
Wow.
Some noise there.
Alexandra, you can start.
How much?
I mean, who knows?
But it's sort of like, by their fruits you shall know them or something like that.
And it could be that they're sort of, I sort of see in the present, That they have, it seems like they're swinging left.
I think that they used to be associated more with extreme right wing type of causes, like the coup d'etats in South America, for example.
Brazil elected a socialist president, fair and square, and the CIA went in there in 1964 and installed a military dictatorship that lasted for 25 years or 30 years.
And so, along with so many other very Right wing sort of coup d'etat, covert actions that the CIA did.
Now, what you see is that they seem to be aligned more with Hillary Clinton and who basically sold our uranium to Russia and stuff.
It seems like she was into Solomonsky, who was a total socialist, communist activist, as was Obama.
So it seems like the CIA seems to be more leaning and allied toward the left side of the.
Political spectrum.
So that's not Nazi, you know, it's become the repressive wing.
It's fascinating.
Right.
And so, yeah.
You're looking for Nazi ties to the CIA, look no further than Richard Galen, who we obtained at the end of the war from the Nazis, who really ran their entire intelligence effort.
Well, designed, designed this because it transitioned from the OSS to the CIA, and I think largely using the Nazi blueprint.
Now, you know, you could say, well, these guys were brilliant.
They should have been taking them over here and using them like we did von Braun to build the entire space program with these guys.
But what was their ideology?
What were they all about?
And what aspects of the American political scene were they influencing?
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This, again, you know, is a great question because.
The thing is, before there was a Nazi party, there was a KKK in the United States.
The kind of entrenched racism and racial oppression that existed in America.
I don't think it has existed anywhere else on the planet.
It didn't exist in Germany before.
So we invented it.
The Nazis thought it was fabulous and took it, ran with it, and then it became that.
But really, I mean, there was a National Eugenics Society, which is now known as the Natural History Museum in New York.
And George Bush's grandmother, what's her name, Walker, she was a member of the National Eugenics Society.
It's fascinating because.
It was fashionable to be a eugenicist.
Oh, they do.
They have those movies from the 30s, which are.
Before the Second World War, before the Nazi horror came out, it was acceptable and it was fashionable.
It was seen as smart.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
Yeah, that's so interesting.
There's so many different places that answer could go, but I guess that's where we took it.
But it is interesting to look at that eugenics movement because, of course, Hitler.
When he was starting out, he wrote a very nice letter to them saying, Oh, I admire what you're doing.
So he obviously was picking up ideas from these types of movements that were around.
And the woman who started Planned Parenthood, I forget her name, but she Sanger.
Yes, absolutely.
Same type of thing.
I mean, total eugenicist.
And these are lefty people.
And now the grand finale question.
Oh, there's so many good ones too.
And let me tell you, the audience is tuned in, and somebody out there was saying, Hey, did anybody just get a mad electrical interference when the CIA and Nazis were mentioned?
Oh, really?
It was from Meme Meme, and I heard it.
Wow.
Very interesting.
Yes.
We got, I'll tell you, we had tech problems starting tonight.
There's no question about it.
But I will say to everyone, when the conversation is done here tonight, I'll be on with Linda Moulton Howe on Coast to Coast and the conversation around the JFK.
Files and the UFO aspect together with Linda, who knows everything about the UFO aspect.
I will bring all those JFK facts in and we're going to have Douglas Caddy as our special guest.
So exciting.
Yes.
Did you still want one more question?
Yes, absolutely.
Okay, this is from Twisted Hippie.
What do you think of the Dr. Mary's Monkey?
Fantastic book.
And, Alessandra, have you read it?
I've not read the book.
I ran a whole documentary series that was based on it.
That whole story was fascinating.
She ended up having some kind of ray gun shot at her or something, right?
There was a fire down to the bone.
It looked like she had been torched by something.
Weird energy weapon.
Mary's Monkey basically has an interlocking trail to the JFK assassination because it involves Oswald, it involves David Ferry, it involves a woman who claims to be Oswald's girlfriend, Judith Baker, and it involves Mary Sherman and Dr. Ochner, who was the physician to Juan Perón, but in America it started.
Things like the Anti Cancer Institute and stuff.
In New Orleans.
In New Orleans, yeah.
And so there's this whole intersection when Oswald is there that summer where Ferry is working with this medical team to develop a biological weapon to kill Castro with.
And Sherman is a part of this effort.
And it's a fascinating story that Haslam tells because he has firsthand information because he grew up around this atmosphere.
And the story of Sherman always.
Bothered him because when she was found, they said, Well, it was a fire in her apartment or whatever, but half of her arm, like Alexandra was just talking about, had basically been singed by this energy weapon.
Because her bone was blackened.
It was down to the bone and half of it was missing.
Now, they were experimenting with really hardcore medical weaponry as a way to assassinate foreign leaders.
And this is a very dark wing of a deep state group.
Operating, but these are very high profile figures.
And Ferry, of course, is you know, he's I showed his picture earlier tonight because Oswald was in the Civil Air Patrol when he was 15, and Ferry was the commander of the unit.
So later, Ferry comes up working with Bannister and in the whole garrison, that whole trial and everything when he went to prosecute Clay Shaw.
Ferry turns up dead because he's going to be the next witness called, and they know they have to get rid of him.
So, Ferry and Oswald were very close.
Ferry, CIA mafia pilot, I mean, total right winger, extreme, and a very unusual character working with Bannister there in New Orleans.
And then you have this whole medical aspect of Mary Sherman and Dr. Mary's Monkey.
And there's even some suggestion in that material that the AIDS virus came out of their experimentation.
So, unbelievable material.
Ed Haslam is the author of that book.
And I recommend everyone read it, I think it's fantastic.
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That sounds, yeah.
Yeah, just so many tangents.
It goes, it's incredible.
Okay, we'll take one more because that was.
You want to take, oh, ooh, okay.
The wild card.
Okay.
In your hands, Sivan.
Boy, oh, boy.
Okay.
Okay, this is from Dave.
How about making IPAC, AIPAC, register as a foreign entity and not letting them influence our elections and our body politic in general?
Well, they just did it with.
They just made RT register as a foreign agent.
They should make RT do it, they should make APAC do it.
APAC is interesting.
There's too much to go into there on that, but certainly it's a.
Without destroying your life.
It is certainly.
It's a legitimate question.
It's really a no go zone, really.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
You get the finale, Yvonne, the final choice.
And we're out of here.
And we're looking forward to everybody.
You know, we're going to come back next Tuesday and do another one of these because we're doing them all through November.
So, based on the JFK files releases.
So, we appreciate everyone keeping up with it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Let's see.
This is, well, I'm going to go with this one.
This is from another Dave, and this is in regards to President Trump.
Do you think that President Trump knows what's going on about the alien agenda?
That's so interesting.
I'm sure he was just the kind of guy who would like to know.
I don't think he cares about that stuff.
Well, believe it or not, he does because.
Trump this summer, what did he restart?
Well, he cares about the space economy.
He understands that there's a space economy.
So he restarted the Space Council, which was started up under Dan Quayle and George Bush.
And it was supposed to get a manned mission to Mars within 20 years.
They completely abandoned it.
But it was a weird push that they were doing early in the presidency.
And it lay dormant.
And at one point, Obama issued a press release in 2014.
And he said, I'm going to restart the Space Council.
Never happened.
It was quiet as a mouse.
Then he does it, and Trump gets in and he puts Pence at the top of it.
And he says basically, NASA has to answer to Pence, which I found very fascinating.
And, you know, we talk a lot in our research about things like the secret space program and a lot of the things that are going on in relation to UFO technology, the exotic technology around those types of things.
And Trump, you know, he has people like Roger Stone at his ear.
And I've interviewed Roger Stone, and he, You know, he can go to a lot of different places.
So, if Trump does listen to somebody like Stone, he certainly has looked into this.
Who knew?
I've seen UFOs over Manhattan.
You know, if Trump's looking up, which I imagine he has.
Wouldn't it be funny if he was the one who came out and said it?
Hey, I've seen UFOs over Manhattan.
Yeah.
But what I simply will not tolerate is people saying the government's going to come out and the president's going to be side by side with an ET.
They got some kind of ridiculous meme about that going on for a while.
And it's the dumbest thing.
It's not something that we're going to see.
You don't understand the secrecy around that until you check out how many people's careers have been destroyed or lives have been taken in that pursuit.
So it's an incredibly heavily guarded secrecy file around UFOs.
And it's not the kind of thing where they're going to very lightly come out and give us any kind of information.
And I did think it was interesting that when Bassett.
Came out and did the citizens' hearing on disclosure stuff.
And that was supposed to go mainstream, and they set it up like a congressional committee.
And, you know, I thought it's an interesting effort because treating it the way it needs to be treated is the first step towards getting it into a larger audience, in a sense.
And so Bassett doing something like the citizens' hearing for public disclosure around UFOs.
With incredible people like Linda Moulton Howe and Stanton Friedman, I'm more behind something like that than Academy to the Stars.
So, that's the type of movement.
It may not have gone on very long.
Maybe he got funding to do one event or something, but that's a better direction for sure.
It's been great, really great having everybody come out and overcoming the tech issues that we had earlier.
And we will get Susan on.
Anyway, I have a two part interview coming up with her that goes in depth with her incredible work on Breakthrough Energy and the New Energy Movement that she's the president of.
Alexandra's at ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net.
Just incredible stuff.
And of course, Alexandra being a writer, when she goes into an issue, we know we're getting the good stuff.
And you won't find writing like that anywhere on the internet.
So just great stuff.
And thanks so much for coming on, Alexandra.
Oh, thank you.
And Groovy Bean, holding down the fort.
And Yvonne, I really appreciate it.
You did excellent.
And everyone, it's on to Coast to Coast tonight.
And I will publish a listing and we'll do a video as soon as we know the date on the HBO special.
On the JFK assassination coming up on the 54th anniversary tomorrow.
And, you know, it's the kind of thing where if we get transparency on it through the research itself, then, you know, we've come to really expect that the government isn't going to give us that kind of honest, fair shake on it.
So we're going to have to get the transparency on our own.
And certainly, you know, the deeper we go and the more voices we have around it, the better off we are.
It's an incredibly crucial event, I think.
In history, that will help us understand the entire governance structure of the country and help us to understand very mysterious subjects like the UFO file and the CIA secrecy around it and the deep state kind of lock on that.
So remember, JFK may have saved the world during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And in my opinion, we all owe him a great debt there, and at least to find out what was the real story behind his assassination and to get the country back on the right track.
It's all fascinating.
And thank you for having me join you both this evening.
Sorry, I missed out on Susan.
Sorry, Susan couldn't get on.
No question.
So, thank you, everyone.
And we'll talk soon.
And of course, I'll catch you later on Coast to Coast.