Fri Episode #2139: The Uniparty Lies: Trump, Musk & Vivek Serve the Globalist Agenda
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In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
It's the David Knight Show.
As the clock strikes 13, it's Friday the 14th of November, year of our Lord 2025.
Well, today, we're going to take a look at not only the Epstein explosion, and it is now exploding, but we are...
This is worse than any of Bill Clinton's bimbo eruptions, quite frankly.
But we're also going to take a look at the fundamental issues that the government seems to keep missing the target on.
Even when we talk about the H-1B visas, or we talk about the price of meat, they always have the wrong solution because they always refuse to acknowledge that they are the problem.
And so we're going to show that to you today when it comes to food and so many other issues.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
Well, thank you for joining us today.
And of course, joining us from Austin will be my son Travis, who is there for the week.
I want to begin, when we look at this Epstein stuff, I think this is the central issue.
And I saw this out of the UK, the Daily Skeptic.
And the headline was, The Shame in Shaming Andrew.
And actually, they were making some excuses for the man formerly known as Prince.
But they did make an interesting point here.
They said the most extraordinary thing about Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, which is, I guess maybe that's what he's now going to be called, since he's no longer Prince Andrew, seems to have no sense of shame.
I thought, I know somebody like that in the U.S., who the issue is, is that the royal family realized how much damage this shameless pedophile was doing to their organization.
The GOP, and I'm talking about the professional politicians, not the grassroots GOP, but the GOP professional politicians don't realize how much damage is being done to their brand by the pedophile that they continue to support Trump.
He says that word was idos, A-I-D-O-S.
It's like adios, except without the extra I, which covered everything from a sense of shame, from inhibiting one's own behavior, or to the sensitivity to the feelings, the status, and the claims of others.
I got to say, when we look at the big issues this week and what's got a lot of people in MAGA, even some of the grassroots people in MAGA now.
And of course, you've got the people like Bannon and Alex Jones who are trying to navigate this and keep, you know, continue to be behind Trump, but at the same time, distance themselves a little bit, criticize what he's actually doing.
But don't worry, because he's God's instrument, right?
As Bannon is trying to tell us.
Or trust the plan, as Alex Jones always says.
But the reality is, is that both of these issues, the H-1B visa issue, as well as all the Epstein stuff, is an insensitivity to other people, a disrespect for other people.
To say that Americans have no talent, that is the just as he said again from the very beginning is why I played that old Michael Keaton clip.
It is straight to the point.
He says he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue.
And my people, my people are so great, they would still support me.
Michael Keaton says, he's telling you he thinks you're stupid.
And so now some really stupid people who have done some really stupid support for Trump in the past.
And no matter what he did, they would always fall back in line.
They're now starting to have some major pushback.
And so I think that is it.
There is, with Donald Trump, there is no sense of shame.
I don't know if he's starting to get it in terms of his relationship with God.
I hope so.
You know, he's talked about that.
Well, I don't know if I'm going to make it or not.
Maybe I'm not all that good.
But remember when he ran for president the first time, and he was asked on several occasions, do you ever ask God to forgive you?
Do you think you need forgiveness or anything?
Well, no, no, I don't do that.
I don't really think I need any forgiveness.
I just do a better job the next time.
There's never a sense of shame.
There's never anything that would inhibit his own behavior.
He's free to do whatever he wants.
Remember what broke just before the first election?
Well, you know, when you're a celebrity, they let you do it, right?
The women let you grab them.
Yeah, they let you, right?
I can do whatever I want.
I'm running the beauty contest.
I'm running the corporation.
I'm running the country.
I can do whatever I want.
There's no sense of shame.
There's no sense of authority outside of himself.
Not the Constitution, not the rule of law, nothing.
It doesn't matter what the status or the claims of others are on his life, whether it's God or the Constitution.
Well, Thomas Massey said, speaking about the victory they had in terms of forcing the hand of Mike Johnson to actually release this information.
And again, just like Andrew, what Trump has done is when he's caught red-handed with his hand in the cookie jar, he just denies it.
I mean, you've got Andrew denying that he was with Virginia Guthrie, even as everybody showed the picture of the two of them and Ghelane Maxwell in the background.
No, I didn't do that.
And he continued to do it even after he sent her 12 million pounds as a cover-up or compensation or whatever.
He continued to deny all this.
And it was as absurd as what Trump is doing with all of this.
So as Thomas Massey said, yesterday was a busy day.
The FBI director, the Attorney General, the president, and the speaker all made a last-ditch effort to kill the Epstein discharge petition.
And that Rokahana and I have been leading.
What they did was they put a lot of pressure on Laura Bobert because they thought they could move her.
And as this discharge petition has gone through, it now has to be brought.
What they did was they didn't release the documents that said we're going to force a vote on releasing the documents.
And I think what is going to happen, they've already indicated, and Massey believes it'll happen.
He thinks there's going to be a lot more people than just the three GOP congresswomen who have joined him in this.
He thinks a lot more people are going to switch.
Well, I've already had a couple Republicans tell my office privately that they're going to vote for it.
And I think that could snowball.
You know, the deal for Republicans on this vote is that Trump will protect you if you vote the wrong way.
In other words, if you vote to cover up for pedophiles, you've got cover in a Republican primary.
But I would remind my colleagues, this vote is going to be on your record for longer than Trump is going to be president.
And what are you going to do in 2028 and 2030 when you're in a debate, either with a Republican or a Democrat, and they say, how can we trust you?
You covered up for a pedophile back in 2025.
And how can we trust Trump, who's covering up for a pedophile?
Or maybe, and here's the thing I think it's about.
Why would Trump do something so stupid?
Well, first of all, he's so arrogant, so shameless, that he has done a lot of things that are bad PR, bad optics lately.
But I think to throw himself out there in front of the bus to try to stop this bulldozer that's coming, I think he's doing it for Mossad.
I think he's doing it for Israel.
As I pointed out the other day, the deep connections between Ehud Barak and this other guy who was deeply embedded with Jeffrey Epstein and how Jeffrey Epstein had been their agent for a lot of different countries, the Ivory Coast, I think another one was Mongolia or whatever, also involved with Syria.
And so Jeffrey Epstein was very much involved with the intelligence community and also with what was going on in the U.S. with Lion Leon Panetta.
That's what I call him, the guy who was so arrogant with Jeff Sessions.
And Jeff Sessions was such a disappointment because even when he called out Panetta and said, well, you've been a congressman.
You know that you've got to get a declaration of war before you put troops on the ground in Syria?
And old Lion Panetta looks at him and says, well, Congressman, our senator, we'll consult with our allies in the UN and NATO, and we'll let you know what we decide.
And he goes, well, that's not how it works.
You, Congressman, all this kind of stuff.
I mean, he, you know, as weak as he could be, wouldn't call him out on any of that stuff.
And he just kept coming back very arrogant.
Well, Lion Leon Panetta was working with the CIA, working with Israel and Mossad when Jeffrey Epstein was doing all of this stuff.
And then when he went to the Department of Defense, became the Secretary of Defense, he made sure that Israel got $38 billion.
I mean, they were joined at the hip.
And I really do think that Israel is such a big part of the Epstein files.
And not just Israel, you know, Mossad, but also the CIA.
You do understand the real government is the CIA and Israel.
So it really is the intelligence community, the criminals, the black part of government that is blackened out to everybody else, the CIA, and their partnerships with other spy organizations in other countries, especially Israel.
I think that's the reason why Trump is doing this.
I think it's the reason why he's doing stupid stuff like starting wars when he says all the time that he wants the Nobel Peace Prize.
And why is he starting this war in Venezuela?
Well, it's because the people who always start wars, who always have coups, who always do regime change, who always do assassination.
This is always brought to us by the people in the intelligence agencies in the Pentagon.
And I think that that is the real story here, that is the deep story, the deep state side of the Epstein stuff.
Yes, it has a horrific moral facade that disgusts everybody.
But I think it really is that in the background.
Massey has bucked Trump in his pursuit of a public release of the documents and managed to secure 218 signatures to force a vote after Speaker Mike Johnson swore in the Democrat replacement, Adelita Rivalha, I guess is how you pronounce it.
I'm not really sure.
So anyway, and as all this is happening, guess who is coming to his defense and who is so concerned about all of this stuff?
Well, it turns out to be none other than Ben Shapiro.
Because again, as I said, this is another dog barking saying, this is really about Israel.
So yesterday, after the House of Representatives reopened, Representative Adelita Grahowa of Arizona became the 218th and final signature on the discharge petition.
She joined all the other Democrats, as well as four Republicans, including two who hate President Trump and would like to destroy his presidency.
That would be Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
You hate them, Ben, because they don't want to give money to your country.
Your country's not America, you traitor.
Go back to where your country is.
It disgusts me.
Well, you know, in terms of saying, well, Massey hates Trump, Massey voted right when Trump was wrong.
And it was the very first time they had their conflict, if you remember, was a $3.5 trillion boondoggle and training, moving the overturn window for UBI, that COVID nonsense.
And Massey not only opposed it, but he forced Congress to come back and say, oh, we're all going to die.
And I think that was one of the most important things.
You know, early on, we had this, you know, they started all this COVID stuff and they said, you know, they had CPAC, the Conservative Convention.
And the left was so excited.
They said, look, somebody tested positive at CPAC.
There are all these conservatives who are going to die.
You know, somebody is sick with a cold.
And they said that it's COVID.
So they're all going to die.
And they were so excited.
Guess what?
Nobody died.
And then exactly epic fail.
But that was kind of the dog that didn't bark.
And then Thomas Massey calls back this geriatric Congress, the ancient Congress, and said, you're going to have to vote in person on this.
And then they said, they're all going to die.
And if it was what they said it was, if it was a pandemic, they all would have died.
And we would have owed Thomas Massey an even greater debt for cleaning out Congress.
But nobody died.
And Trump wanted to kill Thomas Massey.
He was so furious with him.
He said, I'm going to primary that guy out.
Well, it didn't work.
And so we'll see if he can primary him out again.
But it's really Israel that wants to get him out because Israel wants their money and they can't buy him.
Here's what Thomas Massey said.
Against the White House, but you don't generally disagree with some of the things that President Trump does or has run on policy-wise.
How do you explain to voters why the president is fighting your discharge petition or fighting the release of these documents from the Justice Department?
Well, you know, I vote with my party 91% of the time, which means I agree with the, I have agreed with the president 91% of the time.
But when they're protecting pedophiles, when they are blowing our budget, when they are starting wars overseas, I'm sorry I can't go along with that.
And back home, people agree with me.
They understand.
Even the most ardent Trump supporters understand.
Sometimes he gets bad advice, sometimes he gives bad advice, and we wouldn't model our lives after him, his personal life.
And they're okay with that.
I mean, you can still like Donald Trump in Kentucky and like what I'm doing and what Rokana is doing, which is trying to get transparency.
Well, and you were actually, we were watching Adelita Grahama be sworn in today.
And as soon as she was sworn in, she walked over and signed this discharge petition seconds later.
You went up and shook her hand, as you noted, before any other Democrats had actually even ever gotten over to her side.
I also, you couldn't hear what I said, but I apologize to her for what my own party did, which was to keep her from being sworn in and depriving an entire congressional district of representation for 49, 50 days, which, you know, I won a special election myself.
I think I was sworn in within a week.
And there was no reason to delay this other than the petty thing that now the speaker is accelerating.
He tried to delay this vote.
He deprived the congressional district of a congressperson.
And now he says, well, okay, I guess I lost.
We'll have the vote next week.
Yeah, let's keep putting it off.
And that's the key thing.
It's like, why is Congress and why is Mike Johnson so adamant to throw themselves in front of this juggernaut that is coming along?
There's some very important people.
There's important, very powerful people that are on that list.
But I think the organizations that aren't on that list, Mossad and many others, are really the bigger issue that is there.
So again, there was a pressure campaign on Lauren Bobert, and you had all of the big, powerful people in the Trump administration, the Attorney General, Speaker of the House, the president, all of them meeting with her in a situation room.
And Massey had something to say about that pressure campaign as well.
I got to give credit to Lauren Boebert to walk into the White House, the center of power, the free world, really, and to sustain that and to come back out and to be solid.
And also to Nancy Mace and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
There was all the speculation that they might take their names off, and they never did.
So it's not a hoax.
It's not a moot point.
It is a very serious thing.
There are a thousand victims.
There are survivors who have had a press conference with Rokana and I, and that's what we're fighting for, justice for them.
Did y'all talk to them at any point during this as the White House was making clear they were targeting these members?
I talked to them.
I don't want to say which one I had this conversation with, but one of them was told, we can't let Massey have a win.
How petty is that?
I mean, this is coming from Israel.
It's about getting transparency and justice, which, by the way, this administration promised.
You have the vice president, JD Vance.
You have the AG, you have the FBI director.
They've all done a 180 on this.
So the White House said to one of these members that they didn't want you to have a win here.
That's correct.
Politics.
Well, the president called Bobert on Tuesday to discuss her support for the petition.
And on Wednesday, she attended a White House meeting about Epstein, according to a report from multiple outlets.
The White House meeting that she attended was also attended by the Attorney General Pam Bondi, who has shredded and burned her credibility beyond redemption, and by FBI Director Kash Patel, who has also shredded and burned his credibility beyond redemption as well.
But Bobert nevertheless decided not to remove her name from the petition.
After the meeting, she told the conservative Daily Caller that, quote, there was no pressure on her, that everybody was great and worked well with me.
You know, just I just showed up and it just happened to be all the top law enforcement people there along with Trump, the people who go after his enemies.
No pressure, not at all.
She said, later that night, though, she shared a social media post that hinted that the president might have pressured her after all.
The post features a video of reporter Kyle Clark from NBC affiliate Nine News in Denver, Colorado, calling her brave for apparently refusing to help Trump bury the Epstein files.
By all appearances, Bobert did defy the president despite the pressure and the reported threats, he said.
She stood firm against the wishes of her party and her president.
Regardless of how viewers feel about Boebert's politics, anyone who cares about children accountability and transparency owe her a thanks.
And she, so she first she said, well, I didn't have any pressure.
And then he does that report and she retweets it.
And she puts like an emoji of two eyes, like, look at this.
And here's the actual report that he had here.
It sure looks like Congresswoman Lauren Bobert did a brave thing today.
Few people in politics are more polarizing, but put politics aside and consider what is being reported by the New York Times, CNN, and others, that President Trump directly pressured Bobert to help him stop the release of the Epstein files by pulling her support off a congressional petition and sinking that effort.
Reports say the Trump White House also brought Boebert into the situation room for a meeting with the Attorney General and the FBI director, who we should note are accused of using the Justice Department to punish people who defy the president.
And by all appearances, Boebert did defy the president despite the pressure and the reported threats.
Stood firm against the wishes of her party and her president.
And not on a political or a policy issue where the public is going to hold a wide variety of views, but on the most basic of issues that should unite us all, that pedophiles don't deserve protection, even pedophiles with powerful friends.
Now, some of this is going to be speculation because this apparent pressure campaign happened behind closed doors.
But if we want courage out of political leaders, then citizens must be willing to recognize and appreciate courage from the politicians that they like the least.
It certainly appears that every American who cares about kids and accountability and transparency owes Lauren Boebert their thanks.
And especially Thomas Massey.
This guy has been correct on the issues.
And this is an issue that doesn't divide people.
It's not a policy issue, like how much money should we spend on this program or that program, or should that program exist, that type of thing.
He has been very libertarian on the policies, and he has stuck to his guns in spite of the biggest gun, loaded gun stuck in his face, and that's Trump.
Now the petition has 218 signatures.
What happens?
Well, Speaker Mike Johnson is required by House rules to bring the measure to the floor after a period of seven legislative days.
You think he's going to use all seven days?
I think he will.
This has been going on since before the August recess.
This has been going on for probably, I guess we could say, maybe now we're at the middle of November.
This has been going on for four months.
For four months.
He has been guarding our pedophiles and changing the GOP to the party that guards our pedophiles.
good job mike uh so um he's been trying to avoid realistically It's not changing the party into that.
It's just becoming more obvious.
That's what they're doing.
Yeah, the longest Speaker of the House.
He's following in the footsteps of the longest Speaker of the House that they had, who was a pedophile, Dennis Astor.
I'm sorry, I kept interrupting you, Travis.
What were you saying?
Oh, no, it's just Trump is so in your face and uncaring.
He does not care.
He's shameless.
He's made it clear, like he said, like you, with the quote, you know, that you said earlier.
I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue.
He's like, I could be obvious about being there.
I could be friends with Jeffrey Epstein, and they'd still support me, is what we're seeing here.
That's right.
I could have my picture taken with young girls, naked young girls, and they'd still support me.
And I think a lot of them will.
And I know that there'll be people like Steve Bannon who will tell you, hey, we're on a bombing run here.
Let's not lose it.
Stay on target, stay on target.
He thinks this is Star Wars.
Well, I'll tell you what, the Death Star is federal government, Washington, and the Death Star.
The Darth Vaders are the people who are the moral failures that are there in the first place.
If enacted, the measure would require the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, to release all documents and records in possession of the Department of Justice relating to Jeffrey Epstein, minus identifiable information for the victims within 30 days.
So again, they can drag this out for another week before the vote.
And then Pam Bondi, even if she complies, and that is a question, because she has no integrity, and she doesn't believe that the law applies to her because she's part of the Trump administration.
So the question is, after 30 days, will she release it?
So the same day that this new representative was signed in, they passed this discharge petition.
And it was Massey plus three women, Nancy Mace, Marjorie Taylor Green, and Lauren Bobert, who pushed back against this.
Shame on the GOP.
Shame on them.
They're disgusting.
How the Department of Justice tried and failed to bury Trump's Epstein files.
Now, this is from the left-wing anti-Trump organization MediaIte.
And I just mentioned that because, again, you should know what the biases are of these different organizations as a report.
They said in May, Attorney General Bondi told Trump that his name appeared multiple times in the Epstein files according to the Wall Street Journal.
By July, she declared the case was closed.
That choreography, a warning first, absolution second, captures how power behaves when it wants the story to vanish.
It doesn't need to hide the truth.
It only needs to declare the matter resolved.
And then, of course, Trump came out and said, oh, it's all just a Democrat hoax, right?
That's what the Department of Justice did this summer when it quietly issued its case-closed letter on Jeffrey Epstein, assuring the public that every lead had been chased, that every name had been examined, even though there are no, you got women who were trafficked in a pedophile ring to very rich and powerful people, but none of them are being, they're not coming after any of them.
We don't know who they are.
They evidently don't exist.
How do you convict people like Epstein and Ghelene Maxwell of trafficking young girls to men, and the men then don't exist?
Where's the crime then?
The 20,000 pages of documents that Congress released on Wednesday tell another story entirely.
They reveal not a completed investigation, but a carefully managed retreat.
Trump, despite his later insistence to Jonathan Swan and others, that he, quote, knew nothing about Epstein's activities.
And consider the fact that now the line of defense, first of Speaker Johnson, and now I've seen a lot of the MAGA influencers out there saying, well, you know, Trump knew he was evil, and Trump turned him in.
And I think Trump did turn him in, not because he was evil.
I mean, he had been evil for 15 years, and Trump had hung out with him.
Trump turned him in because of a dispute they had over real estate.
That's why he turned him in.
But you even had Mike Johnson say, well, Trump was an informant on Jeffrey Epstein.
Okay, so then he was there all the time as a witness, witnessing what was happening.
Took him 15 years to turn him in.
And how does Trump say then that he knew nothing?
How does he say that it was a hoax if he was the one who was the informant?
This is the problem with liars.
They don't have a good enough memory, right?
And the other problem is that they have no shame and they have no respect for you or your intelligence.
The record shows that he was briefed in May, Trump was, that his name appeared repeatedly in the files.
Oh, and by the way, Caroline Levitt's insistence that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-Lago because he knew it was a pedophile to creep.
Well, that's at odds with Trump's previous insistence that he knew nothing about Epstein or even his wishing Ghelaine Maxwell well after she was arrested during his first term.
Well, I wish her well, he said.
And so, again, you can't have it both ways.
You can't say that he knew nothing about it.
You can't say that he was an informant.
You can't say that he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago when he says that I knew nothing about it, that it was all a hoax.
And he did know about it.
He knew about it for 15 years.
FBI Director Kash Patel and Bondi both had once spoken as if transparency about Epstein was absolutely their crusade.
Patel, a Fox News regular before joining government, promised that releasing the hidden materials would lead to perp walks of powerful people.
Bondi, during her time as Florida's attorney general, had pledged to, quote, get to the bottom of Epstein's reach and to let the public see everything.
But once they occupied the very offices capable of doing that, both of them reversed course.
The people who had once demanded sunlight were now drawing the blinds.
And of course, you know, look at the corruption of Kash Patel.
This is what he said in 2023 when Christopher Wray was FBI director.
And I'm not saying take all their funding.
I'm not the defund everything guy.
I'm just saying Chris Ray doesn't need a government-funded G5 jet to go to vacation.
Maybe we ground that plane.
15,000 every time it takes off.
This is odd.
Minimum.
Yeah, yeah.
Every time it takes off, all this money, and he uses it to go see his girlfriend sing the national anthem in a wrestling match.
A breaking new report indicates that FBI Director Kash Patel used a $60 million jet, this one right here, to ferry around his 26-year-old girlfriend to a wrestling match and then back to her home a thousand miles away.
This can all be seen in publicly available flight tracking data.
So as the average American struggles to put food near a table, the government shutdown goes on day 29.
Kash Patel is using our money to ferry around his girlfriend.
Yeah, you know what?
This is why I've seen this for so long.
Yeah, they'll tell you about what the other guys are doing.
They'll come out and tell you about that, and just like Dave Chappelle said, and then they'll go right back in and do the same thing themselves.
I've seen it over and over again.
There was somebody about a month or two ago, Karen told me, somebody came on and said, David Knight just hates everybody.
And you're right, I hate all these politicians because of that kind of hypocrisy.
I've seen it over and over and over again.
And it's both parties.
It's both parties.
The emails that Congress pried loose weren't hidden in foreign archives or sealed vaults.
They were sitting unindexed in the Southern District of New York's own digital files.
The DOJ had claimed those materials were redundant, quote unquote, to what had already been examined.
That plainly was untrue.
It's not clear if the department was lying about what it found, lying about and what it looked at, but evidence released on November the 12th makes them look either incompetent or complicit in cover-up.
And folks, let's not forget all of these MAGA influencers out there.
Why don't you just call them propagandists?
You know, why would anybody ever, I would hate to have the label of influencer.
I'm not here to influence you.
I'm here to tell you the truth as I see it.
I could be wrong about it, but I'm not trying to influence you into one camp or the other.
I detest that kind of activity.
And I was disgusted with all of these influencers.
You know, Cernovich, I think, was one of them, and all the usual suspects that are out there, libs of TikTok and all the rest of this.
Look, I've got the stuff.
Look at me.
I'm really, I'm an inside person and I've got all the scoop on all this stuff.
They had nothing.
Nothing.
And you need to remember those people as well.
Do not trust them.
In May, Bondi warned Trump that his name appeared in the Epstein files.
In July, the DOJ announced the case closed.
In November, Congress released 20,000 pages that the DOJ had never examined.
That's the timeline, folks.
Pages that directly contradict Pam Bondi's public assurances and the assurances of Kash Patel and Dan Bongino.
Anyway, the missing piece is why Congress acted when it did.
The November 12th release came after months of subpoenas and Freedom of Information lawsuits, but whether it was timed in response to the July closure or part of a longer calendar still matters.
If it was part of the July disclosure, the DOJ's July letter looks like an act of preemptive damage control, an attempt to define the story before the evidence emerged.
Figures like Bondi and Patel, I'll say Bongino as well, had once railed against the deep state, and now they appear to have become it.
We has met the enemy, and they is us, said Pogo, right?
The machinery they claimed to expose became the very mechanism that they used to bury the truth.
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts, absolutely.
Human nature has not changed since that axiom from Lord Acton.
Three questions now hang in the air.
Who at the Department of Justice decided those 20,000 pages were, quote-unquote, redundant?
What was the basis for the exhaustive review, quote-unquote, if those emails were never seen?
And what communications, if any, occurred between DOJ officials and Trump world figures while the letter was being drafted.
And so, again, there's supposedly nothing to see here with any of this, right?
Except that, you know, Trump's involvement, many people have talked about it.
And he's divorced, Ivana.
He said, I inherited Trump and Yilan inherited Ivana.
And so you'll see Ivana at the house a lot and you'll see Trump at the offices, but the twain will never cross.
They'll never meet.
It was in Epstein's Manhattan office that Maria claims she had a disturbing encounter with the now president.
First time I met him was the night before I started my job.
And Epstein said, I need you to come up to the offices.
And I was like, it's nine o'clock at night, you know, and I guess I'll just run up there.
And he said, okay.
So I get there and I'm all sweaty and running shorts.
Donald Trump walks in.
And then he's really strange.
And he stood, you know, hovering and smirking, like all-knowing, you know, like omniscient grin, like a Cheshire grin.
So I went.
I made like, I don't know, it was just an instinct.
I made the ugliest face I could think of.
And Epstein thought it was adorable.
He walked out and he goes, oh, no, Maria, no, she's not here for you.
Just like that.
He emphasized, she's not here for you.
He goes, come with me.
And he escorts Trump.
So here's Epstein's part.
He escorts Trump into this other room.
And Trump utters under his breath, he mutters, oh, I thought she was 16.
And I thought that was just really weird.
Like, it was beyond locker room talk.
Maria says she never saw Trump behave inappropriately.
And the White House has contested her version of events, insisting the president never visited Epstein's offices.
So when the White House says Donald Trump was never at Jeffrey Epstein's offices, is the president lying?
Oh my heavens, yes.
Yes, he's lying.
Yes.
His lips are moving.
The friendship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein is well documented.
For nearly two decades, they were well known as men about town.
One, a notorious property developer, the other, a wealthy financier.
They were often seen together at parties and events from New York to Florida.
Trump was a passenger on Epstein's private jet, both alone and with his family.
Epstein was even a guest at Trump's wedding to Marla Maples.
And in 2002, he described Jeffrey Epstein as a terrific guy, telling a journalist that his friend was a lot of fun to be with and that he liked beautiful women, many on the younger side.
Well, that was from, as you can hear the accents there, that was from Australia's 60 Minutes program.
How naive do you have to be to believe that Trump was not involved in any of that stuff?
And it truly is amazing as we began talking about the man formerly known as Prince, that Andrew, not the other one, Harry.
When you look at that, the royal family may be evil, but they're not stupid and evil like the GOP.
The GOP has embraced the evil.
And the GOP, and this is just one evil that they've embraced, but they've embraced this evil.
And they are so stupid or so arrogant and prideful, thinking that you are stupid, that they do this in your face.
The royal family, as arrogant and prideful as they are, they have more respect for the British people and the British public than the GOP does for the American public.
They're going to try to distance themselves from this guy.
Well, Jeffrey Epstein thought that Trump was, quote, borderline insane.
And he said, Alan Dershowitz was nearly there.
This is some of the emails that have surfaced.
And Alan Derschowitz was his lawyer, of course, right?
And Dershowitz was there to defend him, just as Dershowitz is there to defend Trump now, doing the indefensible.
And he said Alan Dershowitz, Trump was borderline insane, and Dershowitz was only a few feet further from the border, but not by much.
These are newly released emails from 2018.
The email was an exchange with Obama and a Bill Clinton official, Larry Summers from Harvard, who was another one of these.
Anyway, he said Trump's borderline insane, dirt a few feet further, but not by much.
Summers then questioned, will Trump crack into insanity?
Epstein responded, I hope someone close to him gets indicted, but I'm not sure.
Otherwise, the pressure of the unknown will force him to do crazy things.
I think we kind of see that, don't we?
Summers also sought Epstein's advice for courting women just before, just months before the sex offender was arrested for trafficking.
Well, I think the model that Jeffrey Epstein uses is he sends out the bird dog, Ghelane Maxwell.
I don't know if there are sleeping drugs or anything else like that that's a part of the trick, but I know that what works for Jeffrey Epstein may not work for most people.
So what you need is, you know, a woman with ties to Mossad, preferably her father as a member, and you send her out to find these women.
She kidnaps them, possibly using her Israeli intelligence asset connections, and brings them to your multi-million dollar private island where you keep them locked up or, you know, at least don't let them leave.
Yeah, it works for Epstein.
I don't know if it worked for Larry Summers.
Maybe Larry Summers, if he's desperate enough, maybe he'll get dating advice from Andrew Tate.
Amazing.
So asked on Piers Morgan uncensored for his response to Epstein's email calling him borderline insane.
Dershowitz said, well, at that point, Epstein and I were enemies.
Obviously, he thought I had made him a terrible deal, that sweetheart deal.
He refused to pay me my legal fee.
I threatened to sue him.
I was not in a good relationship with him.
In October, Dershowitz declared that Canada was now our enemy.
Maybe this is where Trump got it, right?
Canada's our enemy.
And called for sanctions against the Canadian government.
What is it that Dershowitz has against the Canadian government?
A few months prior, Dershowitz waged war against Martha's vineyard pierogi vendor.
I talked about that, which ended with him being shouted out of a farmer's market.
And he claimed there was no credible evidence that Epstein's victims were trafficked to powerful men.
In 2024, Dershowitz threatened to sue a debate opponent for calling him an old pervert.
Well, you know, if you defend pedophiles and if you're on record saying that you think that the legal age ought to be lowered to like, you know, 14 or 15 or something like that, I think you're going to have a lot of people who are going to call you a pedophile.
As a matter of fact, Megan Kelly has now gotten into Alan Dershowitz territory.
Listen to this.
As for Epstein, I've said this before, but just as a reminder, I do know somebody very, very close to this case who is in a position to know virtually everything.
Not everything, but virtually everything.
And this person has told me from the start, years and years ago, that Jeffrey Epstein, in this person's view, was not a pedophile.
This is this person's view, who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type.
Like he liked Year old girls.
And I realize this is disgusting.
I'm definitely not trying to make an excuse for this.
I'm just giving you facts.
That he wasn't into like eight-year-olds, but he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby.
And that is what I believed, and that was what I reliably was told for many years.
And it wasn't until we heard from Pam Bondi that they had tens of thousands of videos of alleged, forgive me, they used to call it kiddie porn.
Now they call it child sexual abuse material on his computer that for the first time I thought, oh, no, he was an actual pedophile.
I mean, only a pedophile gets off on young children abuse videos.
She's never clarified it.
I don't know whether it's true.
I have to be honest, I don't really trust Pam Bondi's word on the Epstein matter or anything else.
Yeah, so I don't know what's true about him, but we have yet to see anybody come forward and say, I was a like a, I was under 10, I was under 14 when I first came within his purview.
Look, it's, you can say that's a distinction without a difference.
No, I do.
I think there is a difference.
There's a difference between a 15-year-old and a five-year-old.
You know, it's just whatever.
Yeah, okay.
Here's a pro tip: stay away from Megan Kelly.
Keep your kids away from her as well.
Maybe she's rehearsing to be the next Ghelain Maxwell.
Who knows?
For the Republicans.
Is that disgusting or what?
You were talking over the very beginning.
She said not a pedophile because he was going after 15-year-olds.
Yeah, that's right.
Which is what Dershowitz said as well.
You know, 15, that's right.
Well, that's what the law says.
There's an older video from YouTube where a guy actually makes fun of this kind of thinking.
And he's doing it from this place where he's pretending, you know, he's making this absurd video where he's like, oh, my uncle went to prison, but he wasn't a pedophile.
He was an ephemiophile.
He only likes 16-year-old girls.
And he's pointing out the absurdity of this logic.
He's like, he's still a predator.
This is still a young, young person.
They don't have the ability to understand what's going on.
You are taking advantage of someone that is still, you know, a child for all intents and purposes.
Just because their body has developed more doesn't mean they are in a state where they can understand what's really happening.
You are abusing a child.
That is still the facts of the matter.
We're not going to pretend that, you know, a 15-year-old or a 16-year-old, oh, well, they're an adult.
They can make these decisions.
We don't let them drink.
We don't let them smoke.
We don't let them join the military even.
And we have that set at a lower level than drinking or smoking.
A 15 or 16-year-old is not an adult and is not someone that someone, you know, it's not someone else.
But we let them change their gender.
We let them change their gender, Travis.
That's the key, right?
And that's where this argument is.
When it comes to sex.
Yeah.
When it comes to sex, hey, everybody's fair game.
It's alt-fair and love or sex, right?
That's the LGBT line that is being sold to you by Dershowitz and by Megan Kelly.
Hey, it's fine.
They're 15 years old.
And they can mutilate themselves for life.
That's why I said, for the longest time, I said the people who are selling this who say, well, you know, the age of consent is just a little bit too high for my preferences.
We need to lower that.
Yeah, maybe we won't go after eight-year-olds, except they are going after eight-year-olds in the schools.
And Megan Kelly knows what the law is.
And she really doesn't care.
She didn't know what the law was and couldn't care less when it came to civil asset forfeiture when I talked to her personally.
She claimed, and I believe her, complete ignorance.
And of course, she was completely indifferent when I explained to her what civil asset forfeiture was.
These people, folks, this is why I have such contempt for the people in media, the big media that is out there.
When you actually meet these people and you talk to them, you realize that all they do is schmooze with these corrupt criminals out there and tell whatever lies they need to tell the public and support whatever they need to and people that they need to in order to get attention.
It's all just about attention.
It's all about money.
It's not any of this is about protecting kids or any of the rest of this stuff.
Another thing is, if Dershowitz got the age lowered to 14 or Megan Kelly to 15 or whatever, they wouldn't stop there.
They would keep on pushing to have it lowered farther.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
So who else is mentioned in Epstein's emails?
You know, this is something that Senator Kennedy, the Republican from Louisiana, had pointed out.
We talked to Kash Patel and goes, so you got these people have been convicted of trafficking young kids, and yet we don't have any of the perps that they trafficked them to.
You've seen most of the files.
Who, if anyone, did Epstein traffic these young women to besides himself?
Himself.
There is no credible information.
None.
If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals.
And the information we have, again, is limited.
So the answer is no one for the information that we have in the files, in the case file.
Okay.
And why is the Epstein files?
You have been very clear that there's going to be video evidence that proves that Epstein killed himself.
And I've known you long enough.
If you say it, I believe you.
And I know it will be forthcoming.
Yeah, right.
Explain the priority, since you have gotten in this position and Cash has gotten in his position and Pam has gotten in her position, and maybe why this didn't go as quickly as some people anticipated.
Well, I lost you a little bit, but I assume you can hear me, so I'm just gonna answer.
There has been.
Let me get to this person.
I had a graduation ceremony this morning down in Quantico with some uh, with some, with a class of new agents, and I looked every one of them in the eye, shook their hands.
I said, listen, you're gonna do this for us, you're gonna protect the homeland and you're gonna go bring me bad guys, you understand?
I said there's no one coming to us.
The Marvel Avengers ain't coming, it is us.
We are in charge.
We have the counterterrorism portfolio, this and this attorney general.
They have a a different view than we've had in the past of the FBI.
This is very important.
Your audience understands this.
The FBI in the past focused on large enterprise cases.
You know the Al Capone, John Gotti KSM, Al-Qaeda Times and we are still and always going to do that.
But there's a parallel track.
This president also sees this border problem as a solvable problem.
Now think about this, Sean, that never happens.
In in police science and criminology, no one solves murder.
You solve a murder.
Notice how he's changed the subject now to the border.
President has a different view of this border problem.
He said, we are going to fix this for good.
We're sealing it shut.
Everybody here is out.
We are going to get rid of you if you are here illegally and if you're here illegally to commit a crime, you're going first.
We're giving you about five minutes to cooperate.
That wasn't the question information.
We're going to use every tool we have title VIII and every other one to get you the hell out of the country.
You're not going to be here to commit crime.
It is a really revolutionary view.
It's almost like national level broken windows policing.
DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
Will that really happen?
It's sitting on my desk right now to review.
That's been a directive by President Trump.
I'm reviewing that.
I'm reviewing Who has Jeffrey Epstein's black book?
Black book.
FBI.
That's under direct control of the director of the FBI.
The Senate has confirmed Kash Patel as the new director of the FBI.
He was another controversial choice.
That's why you don't have a black book.
That Jeffrey Epstein story is a big deal.
Please do not let that story go.
Keep your eye on this.
I'm just going to throw this out there on the cost.
You think that would be valuable to an intelligence apparatus to have blackmail material on people on video, doing things with young women they shouldn't be doing in case you need a, let's say, favor later.
Hey, it'd be a real shame if this got out.
Yeah, damn.
Yeah, he wasn't blackmailing anybody, though.
He was doing it all himself personally.
To keep the heat on this case, folks, there are a lot of people who are knee-deep in the Washington swamp who are not telling you the truth about serious allegations out there that Epstein may have had video and audio of people out there doing things they shouldn't have been doing.
And you should be asking yourself the question, how is it that all these people, the CIA director, the Obama fixer, Bill Clinton, all intersected past with Jeffrey Epstein?
Jeffrey Epstein isn't with us anymore, and nobody seems to want to talk about it.
Newly sworn-in FBI director Kash Patel named popular podcaster Dan Bongino as the deputy director of the agency.
The black book is not just sitting, I mean, that's Hoover power times 10.
And to me, that's the thing I think President Trump should run on.
On day one, roll out the black book.
Yeah, well, there's the three stooges, right?
Bongino, Bondi, and Cash.
And they have all three, obviously, made a Faustian bargain with the devil to do whatever it takes to protect their positions that are there.
Well, you heard Senator Kennedy, who was skeptical of Kash Patel, saying, so, you know, you've got all this stuff, and there's nobody there?
There's nobody else involved except for Jeffrey Epstein and Ghelain Maxwell.
And again, why were there all the cameras there?
Why were all the tapes there?
It wasn't a blackmail operation.
And of course, why the connections, so many connections with Mossad that Jeffrey Epstein was acting as their guy with all these other countries.
And we got the email trail about that now.
Ehud Barak and the other guy whose name was Karen, I think, Lieutenant Colonel with their intelligence agencies.
You know, you've got all of this elaborate intelligence honeypot to blackmail people, but no, no, you don't have it.
So this is what John Kennedy, Senator Kennedy is saying now.
How do you respond to those comments from Thomas Massey that essentially if you vote to cover up for pedophiles, you've got cover in a Republican primary.
He's essentially saying the president is going to help people who vote with him and vote not to release these files.
Well, here is the way that my people here in Louisiana see it.
Casey, my people think, and I agree with them, that Epstein was a pig, a PIG pig.
My people think that this is no country for creepy old men.
My people believe, and I think they're right, that Epstein trafficked young women, some of whom were minors, to himself.
But here's the issue.
My people want to know who else, if anyone, did Epstein traffic young women to.
And if they were punished, how were they punished?
And if they weren't punished, why?
Now, President Trump has turned that issue over to Attorney General Bondi.
And I don't know how she is going to answer that question for the American people without releasing all the records.
Maybe she can, but I just don't think this issue is going to go away until that issue is addressed and answered to the American people's satisfaction.
And I may end up with a sombrero on my head for saying that.
That's the way I say it.
Again, his sense of humor.
I may wind up with a sombrero on my head.
I might start getting some memes from the Trump administration.
Like they put sombreros on the heads of Schumer and Rokahana.
And so, yeah, this is, you know, again, I believe that Trump is going pedal to the metal just like Speaker Johnson, because they're trying to cover for the Mossad, especially.
This is even Trump coming out and saying, you know, Congress used to be owned by Israel, and rightfully so.
But now you can't really count on that.
But he's telling the Israelis, but you can count on me.
I'm your guy.
If you really want to puppet, I'm your guy.
I'll do whatever it takes.
I'll even cover up for what the Mossad was doing with Jeffrey Epstein.
We'll try to make them look good.
And so Trump is warning Republicans not to be drawn into what he calls the Epstein hoax.
But again, Michael Wolfe is alleging that there was deep ties between Trump and Epstein over models.
This is not even something that he's got some inside knowledge for.
This is public knowledge.
People have known this for 15 to 20 years.
They were hanging together.
And so going back to where we began, what Wolf came out with, and I didn't play the clip because they use a term which I didn't want to put on the show, saying that Trump and Epstein had made a committee of two and they had a nickname for it.
And what they're going to do was to get girls for Prince Andrew.
That was their purpose of their little committee as a joke between the two of them.
And so it all ties together.
It all ties back to Andrew.
And the GOP is going to go down just like the Royal Family was being dragged down the drain by Andrew.
But the GOP doesn't want to cut the ties to this albatross that's flushing down the toilet, Trump.
The Trump White House is in chaos.
His newly revealed emails link Trump to pedophile Epstein.
And the Massey discharge petition moves forward.
And so the more he tries to cover up the Epstein files, the more we uncover, they said.
These latest emails and correspondence raise glaring questions about what else the White House is hiding and the nature of the relationship between Epstein and the president, said a Democrat, Robert Garcia.
The thing is, we knew about the many, many ties of the Democrats, people like Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton.
And what Trump has foolishly done, just from a PR standpoint, is he has completely taken this on himself.
He's made himself the center of attention.
He's giving a pass to the Clintons by doing all this covering.
And so are the rest of the Republicans.
So again, this is what's coming down the pike.
It'll force every member to be on record in this vote that's going to have to happen within about a week or so.
And Mike Johnson is saying he's going to fast-track the vote to release the Epstein files.
I would have thought that he continued to drag this out.
Again, Congress is gone for the entire month of August every year.
He made him take a break a week early because he was worried that they were going to have this discharge petition.
And they've been delaying putting in this newly elected Democrat who's going to sign it.
They have delayed doing that.
And so now that that's happened, he wants to do it very quickly.
There's going to be an effort by Trump to basically bury the stuff in terms of a massive document dump, hoping that people won't find it.
I don't think that's going to work in this day and age with AI.
I think people will be able to find those needles in the haystack.
Jeffrey Epstein claimed to give Russians an insight into Trump.
This is a claim made.
I think this is coming from one of the emails.
It says, I think you might suggest to Putin that Lavrov can get an insight in talking to me, said Epstein, writing to a former prime minister of Norway who was leading the Council of Europe at the time of the exchange.
And that was a reference to Sergei Lavrov, Russia's longtime foreign minister, who is still there, by the way.
So after they split, Epstein was writing to other people in these newly released emails saying that he could take Trump down.
Well, maybe Trump took him down.
For the longest time, I was really skeptical as to whether or not Epstein was really killed or whether they took him out.
But if he was threatening to take down Trump and to expose what Mossad was doing, they may have actually killed him instead of taking him out of there and whisking him off to a secret location.
And so...
I mean, unless he has a very sophisticated dead man switch, in which case it might be.
Yeah.
Well, if anybody would have had a dead man's switch, I think it would have been McAfee.
And we haven't seen anything from that yet.
He said he did, but we haven't seen anything from that.
And we don't know what kind of hacking tools these people have.
Also, you know, it could be that there was a dead man's switch and they just got to it.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe they found it, and maybe that's why they took him out.
I mean, Vault 7 was quite a while ago.
They've had a lot of time to create new hacking tools that no one knows about.
When I interviewed William Benny, the former technical head of the NSA for decades, who became a whistleblower, he said they can break anything.
They can find information on anyone.
There isn't any encryption.
There'sn't anything that you can hide from them if they're interested enough in you.
And I think McAfee and Epstein made themselves pretty interesting to the powers that be.
So anyway, moving on with this, I'm going to shorten this up.
So Epstein asked Landon Thomas Jr., who was then a New York Times reporter, would you like a photo of Donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen?
And of course, the writer, Wolf, Michael Wolf, has said that he has seen pictures of very young nude girls with Trump.
He said he's seen them on multiple occasions, that Epstein had showed them to him.
It's unclear whether Epstein actually possessed such photos, says the New York Times.
But Michael Wolf says they have, you know, that's going to be, I think, the most interesting trial.
And that's going to be the one where, you know, Melania and Donald have been throwing around billion-dollar lawsuits against everybody if they don't like what you report.
And so they were threatening all these people who were reporting, re-reporting what Michael Wolf had said about Epstein and Trump and about Epstein, Trump, and Melania.
And so she threatened to sue him, and he didn't wait for the lawsuit.
He turned around and sued her so he could get discovery.
That's going to be a very interesting lawsuit.
Discovery stuff starts flying back and forth in different directions.
So it's unclear whether Epstein actually possessed such photos.
Thomas, who's not worked for the New York Times since 2019, said that Epstein never provided them to him.
Epstein also told him about a time when he said Trump was so focused on watching young women in a swimming pool that he bumped into a door, leaving his nose print on the sliding glass door.
Anyway, a couple months later, Wolf told Epstein that he'd be interviewing Trump.
He says, anything you think I should ask, he wrote.
And Epstein replied with a list of provocative questions, including about the Trump shuttle airline, a casino bankruptcy, and his debts.
He says, otherwise, you can just throw easies at him, said Epstein.
Epstein referred to the president as, quote, dopey Donald and demented Donald, saying that his finances were all a sham.
Well, that certainly is what we have seen with the federal government's finances and the reports that have come out have been really a sham.
And the tariffs and the way they're managed.
I mean, not only the numbers that they came up with, which are apparently from Ron Navarro, or I can't remember what his pseudonym was.
But anyway, that was a bunch of nonsense.
And then the way it was rolled out, whether you agree with these tariffs or not, was absolute insanity.
So Epstein said, well, it's wild because I'm the one that's able to take him down.
You know, Michael Wolf better watch his back as well.
Trump said he asked me to resign from Arlago.
I was never ever a member there.
Of course, he knew about the girls as he asked Elaine to stop, he said.
And of course, he, you know, they're trying to say that he's the guy who was the informant, who turned it all in, and he did.
He had witnessed it for decades.
Epstein wrote a paranoid email to himself months before his death.
In it, he was rambling about Trump.
He claimed that the president had often visited his home in Palm Beach and the email that he sent to himself, February 2019.
And so he said that redacted name worked at Mar-Lago.
Trump knew of it and came to my house many times during that period.
Epstein wrote six months before he was found, hanged, they said, at the prison.
He never got a massage, he said.
He would always go there, but didn't get a massage.
The pedophile appears to downplay the significance of his abuse to victims, writing, the girls returned to the house multiple times for $200 for a rub and a tug, no sex.
Some worked in the local massage parlors.
Most of them were in their 20s.
But, of course, most of them would say that not all of them.
The reasoning and the context behind Epstein's email to himself are not clear.
The following day, he forwarded the exchange to Michael Wolf, who was writing an expose on Trump at the time.
Well, I think we'll leave it there, but this is certainly not the end of what is going to happen with Epstein.
And what it has been is a major litmus test for Republicans and for people in the Trump administration.
Do they have any integrity?
No, they don't.
Not the three stooges.
Not Bondi, Bongino, and Cash.
Not Caroline Lovett.
Not Mike Johnson, and certainly not Trump.
And then the bigger question is, is this to cover up for some billionaire donors or is it to cover up for these intelligence agencies of Mossad and the CIA?
i think that is the real issue and i think that is the one that probably will not be discussed they may there may be some political casualties out of this I don't know.
But what will really not be discussed is what's going on with the intelligence agencies.
But I think this was already setting a foundation of distrust from MAGA for Donald Trump.
This is something that was a key part of the invented Trump mythology from Q and QAnon and all the rest of the stuff.
They were out there rounding up pedophile rings.
What if you find out then that although there's no evidence that any of that ever happened, in spite of all the lies coming from this anonymous Nostradamus type of character, never any evidence that there was any pedophile rings being rounded up.
Instead, you find out that the guy who's running all this stuff is up at the very top of the pedophile ring.
There's got to be some trust issues that have to evolve with this.
I think that's going to be a healthy thing.
Maybe some good will come of this.
We've got some comments here, Travis, if you want to go through this.
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Thank you very much, Audi.
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He says, if Trump telling Americans that they lack the talent for U.S. jobs doesn't wake up the MA cult, not to mention being exposed as complicit in the Epstein crimes, nothing will.
And that's what we're going to talk about in the next segment.
We're going to talk about this arrogance.
And I tweeted out yesterday.
I said, so what does H-1B stand for?
Does it stand for homeland first-betrayal?
But it is a betrayal, whatever the H-1B stood for.
And they want to tell you that the homeland comes first.
They want to tell you that America is first.
And yet it is not really even on the radar of Trump.
He's totally focused on foreign issues.
Because, folks, he is a globalist.
And the way he is focused on these issues, the very first thing he wants to do is to raise a massive tax because he's also a Democrat.
And when you look at these betrayals, he is an elitist billionaire being run by the technocrats as well.
And that is in his attitude towards Americans.
But we already knew that.
Couldn't you tell?
And that's what I tweeted that out.
I said, yes, it is a betrayal.
But I said, if you go back and look at 2020, it was Trump who was shutting down all the small businesses and farms, telling them that they were not essential.
Now, the big guys who are on Wall Street, who make donations to him, you know, they've got to keep them open.
They are essential businesses.
But your business that you have spent your blood, sweat, and tears on and operated for decades, no, that's not essential.
We're just going to shut that down and all your employees will lose their jobs as well.
That's the Trump who's now telling you that Americans don't got talent.
I guess they can stop that show now.
There was a show called America's Got Talent.
I don't even, I never watched it.
I knew of it, but I don't know.
Maybe it's on still.
If it is, Trump should have it canceled, like Jimmy Kimmel.
Fake news.
Fake news.
Americans don't have talent.
We've got to shut down America's Got Talent.
Go ahead, Travis.
I'm sorry, I interrupted.
Mr. Kishanji, thank you very much.
We appreciate the support.
He says, Good morning, David.
Respect your point of view, brother.
Trump and his admin is so disconnected, disrespectful, and liars.
Israel first reminisced family, not America.
I am so disgusted and upset.
Me too.
Yeah.
Me too.
It's become obvious who he's really there for.
Couldn't be.
MRR again says at the very least we now know that Trump was totally lying when he said the Epstein scandal was a fabricated hoax by the Dems.
Epstein Island says, I wish people like Shapiro would just leave America for Israel.
In fact, anyone who shills for Israel in the guise of American patriotism should move to Israel.
You would think.
Stay tuned because I've got some quotes from Ben Shapiro about H-1B Visa and about Americans in general that are really going to get you upset if just the pushback against Massey and MTG got you upset.
Wait till you hear what I've got coming up here.
Yeah, that's why I put that in there because it's such a perfect compliment to what Shapiro is saying.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Tony Chuck says Patel looked kind of normal at first.
Now he looks like he saw/slash found something he shouldn't have, and his life is on the line.
I don't know.
He always looked to me like a possum that you just shined the light in his eyes because his eyes are always like crossed and astounded.
I typically don't like to get into personal ad hominem attacks, but there is something going on with those eyes.
I don't know what it is.
Yeah, I'm the one that's here for the personal ad hominem attacks.
That's my job.
Yeah, I guess, you know, the FBIs is what Patel is all about, right?
Shield your eyes as they crowd everyone into the Trump camp.
It was sickening to watch.
Yeah.
They did a good job.
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The AI data center is going to be powered by burning Epstein files for the first two years.
That's right.
Just print out those emails and you're going to have plenty of paper to burn there.
Well, we're going to take a quick break, folks.
And when we come back, we're going to take a look at this other issue that is really blowing up for the Trump cult, and that is the H-1B arrogance that Trump has put in there.
So we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back.
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And you were saying, Lance, that you wanted to say something about the comments.
Yeah, I'm seeing some comments about people mentioning that the age of consent was much lower historically.
And in the Middle Ages, and I don't really think that applies here because, as people are pointing out, obviously the average lifespan was much shorter than, but it's also a matter that the vast majority of those marriages were arranged marriages.
So it's a matter of you don't want people that are adults with fully developed brains preying on children that don't know any better.
This was stuff set up by parents.
And even then, it's not ideal going that young.
I think it's definitely an improvement in society that we no longer do that in general, but it's an entirely different thing.
Well, here's how I would answer that question.
We know, for example, that people like John Paul Jones had command of a ship when he was like 13 or 14 years old.
People were given responsibility.
They lived in the real world.
We have sheltered our children from reality with TV, with video games, with the internet, and especially with schools.
So much so that they are so immature they can't make these decisions.
And it takes a while for people to grow up.
And they have to get out of school before they can grow up.
The reality is, is that people lived in the real world back in the day.
And it was not uncommon to see, as a matter of fact, Travis, all those G.A. Hinty novels that you read, right?
It was always these guys who are like, you know, 14 or 15 and they're in the heat of battle.
They're actually out there doing stuff.
We shelter kids.
We keep them from growing up.
We helicopter parent them.
And we have institutions that were designed to do that.
And so the modern person is myself included.
We're very, very childish, sheltered for a very, very long time.
And what makes us so reprehensible is that these very institutions that keep you in a childlike state where you don't mature, they're also the ones who are coming after them in a predatory way about their gender, trying to gaslight them.
So, you know, the people today are very different in terms of ages of maturity.
And it's not even the lifespan.
They're very different in ages of maturity and what they're capable of doing.
Again, you go back and you look at some of the writings of some of the old stuff.
I remember it was during Ken Burns' Civil War thing, which was an entertaining documentary, but not historical.
But he did have a source there that I kept going back to, and it was the diary of Mary Chestnut.
I got that diary, and I read it for myself.
And this is a very, very young girl, you know, early puberty or younger, I believe, if I remember correctly.
And it was astounding, her vocabulary level and her insights and her reporting.
We don't have that today.
People are just sheltered and babied and kept immature.
And it's deliberate.
It's just like when you look at the welfare state, they want to make people dependent.
And there's an article I've got here talking about how the how did the welfare state blow up to the extent that we saw with the SNAP program?
Well, it was actively pushed by the government.
They were out there telling, you deserve to be on welfare.
There's no shame to being on welfare and all this other kind of stuff.
They actually pushed dependency on people.
And we have everything in our society, whether it is entertainment or education or the life experiences.
Everything is there to keep you sheltered and immature.
We even try to take children away from parents who let the kids roam around their neighborhood like we grew up doing.
Those parents will get a knock on the door from the police and CPS because their neighbors will call the cops on you if you do that.
Because these children are just too young for that.
So that is the mentality of the children.
It's the mentality of society.
We want to keep the children young and immature.
And so, no, 14 and 15 is not a sufficient age.
And this is a very different time and a very different society than what you're comparing it to.
This really is an apples to oranges comparison there.
And furthermore, those marriages were typically arranged by the parents that were fully adults even by today's standards.
That's right.
That's right.
And the parents are going to be there to help the kids.
So you're using the parental judgment.
You weren't just relying on the judgment of the children.
And so the two different families were exercising their collective adult judgment.
And they were going to be there to support these kids and to help them grow and to learn.
Very different situation.
So many people, many of the MAGA supporters are saying, where is my president?
This is an ABC News article.
MAGA supporters are in an uproar over the H-1B visa comments saying that America's not got talent.
Laura Ingram suggesting that the program would hurt efforts to raise wages for Americans.
As I played for you, Trump pushed back and said, well, I agree.
In other words, it will hurt their wages.
President Trump is.
You also have to do things to bring talent into a country.
Ingram said, well, we have plenty of talented people here.
President said, no, no, you don't.
No, you don't have certain talents.
And people have to learn.
I have that clip still.
Yeah, go ahead and play it.
You have it?
There's never going to be a country like what we have right now.
And does that mean?
The Republicans have to talk about it later.
And does that mean the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration?
Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers.
We also do have to bring in talent when we have plenty of talented people.
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
We don't have talented people in the world.
No, you don't have certain talents, and people have to learn.
You can't take the talent.
He thinks you're stupid.
I'm going to put you into a factory.
And if you support him, you are.
How did we ever do it before?
Well, let me know.
When you and I were.
I'll give you an example.
In Georgia, they raided because they wanted illegal immigrants out.
They had people from South Korea that made batteries all their lives.
You know, making batteries are very complicated.
It's not an easy thing.
They didn't make them all their lives.
A lot of problems.
They had like five or six hundred people, early stages to make batteries and to teach people how to do it.
Well, they wanted them to get out of the country.
You're going to need that, Laura.
I mean, I know you and I disagree on this.
You can't just say a country's coming in, going to invest $10 billion to build a plant and going to take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in five years, and they're going to start making missiles.
It doesn't work that way.
Yeah, Americans can't be trained.
And there's no point in sending Americans to college anyway.
Just, you know, let the colleges run training Chinese people.
Well, there's been a lot of pushback.
Of course, MTGs.
So it's worth pointing out that he talks about the Koreans at that plant.
Well, they brought them in to make batteries.
They brought them in, from what I'm aware, to train the local populace.
So they would come in, they would give them a rundown on how everything works, how everything is done.
These people are very skilled.
They've been doing it for a while.
You want someone that knows what they're doing to train the next workforce.
And then they would go back to South Korea where they would maintain their jobs there.
And I don't think they were here.
They're just going to flood the country.
I don't think they were here illegally, as you point out.
They were here to train people.
They were brought here as part of the deal.
I think it was Hyundai or whatever company it was that, you know, we'll bring these people in, they'll train them, and then they're going to go back to where they came from.
They were here legally.
They had the documentation.
It was part of the plan.
That's right.
It's a very different thing from just saying, well, we need an unlimited number of people to come in and live here forever and continue to breed future generations.
Yeah, you know, Travis, I think the people who need to be trained are the ICE people who, I think, jumped the shark and didn't know what was going on there.
Came in and arrested a bunch of these people that they already had an agreement.
So you got MTG.
You got Kevin Sorbo, the 1990s Hercules actor who is an outspoken conservative, pushing back.
And many people have reposted a post from Charlie Kirk a few weeks before his assassination.
He called for stopping the H-1B scams, how he called it.
And so Benny Johnson posted that and said that he would continue to fight against the issue.
Meanwhile, Kylie Kremer, a diehard Trump supporter who helped to organize the rally before the January the 6th riot, posted in response, where is my president?
And I would say to Kylie, he's where he's always been, on the other side of the aisle, opposing the issues that you think are vital.
He's where he's always been.
To try to stop the fracturing of the pro-Trump coalition, Steve Bannon jumps in.
He's going to be the guy who is going to tell you, yeah, I agree with you on this issue, but just trust Trump.
This is a, it's bigger.
We've got to keep Trump in because he is infused with divine providence.
Can't you see that halo glowing around his head?
You know, some Steve Bannon.
What absurd BS.
Real quickly, it's just, it reminds me of this scene from No Country for Old Men.
I don't know how many people have seen it, but I really like it.
I find it to be a good movie.
At this end, the killer is there and he's talking to the guy and he says, if your rule brought you to me to this ending where I'm going to kill you, of what use was that rule?
If siding with Donald Trump brings you to these things, brings in an unlimited number of H-1B visa workers, brings in totalitarian state, of what use is siding with Donald Trump over the Democrats?
What does it matter?
We're going to end up in the same place.
That's right.
Why do we keep the Trump coalition in place if it's continuing down this road of globalism, the same road we've been traveling down?
Because lightly, it's a different bumper sticker on the same car.
They just keep slapping a Trump bumper sticker, a Biden bumper sticker.
Now another Trump bumper sticker on it.
It's the same car going to the same place.
Yeah, it makes a big difference to people like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones.
They make a lot of money playing this Hegelian dialectic on people.
And again, they get everybody afraid.
Well, you know, when the Democrats get in, it's going to be so much worse.
And yet they do what the Democrats do.
They raise taxes.
They centrally control the economy.
And so there had been already a lot of people pushing back when Elon Musk and David Sachs and Vivak the Snake Ramaswamy had talked about how Americans are just garbage and we need to bring people in from foreign countries to fix this country.
And of course, when Trump was running, he Defended the program in an interview with the New York Post.
He said, Well, I've always liked the visas.
I've always been in favor of the visas.
That's why we have them.
I have many H-1B visas on my properties, and I'm a believer in H-1B.
And so, again, it's, you know, when he's a candidate in 2016, he called it bad.
He called it unfair, and he admitted that he uses it at his companies.
He said, first of all, I think, and I know the H-1B very well, and it's something that I frankly use, and I shouldn't be allowed to use it.
We shouldn't have it.
But it's there.
He's going to use it.
Yeah, I've got that clip here.
I'm powerless.
I can't stop myself.
I just have to hire these guys.
Yeah, that's right.
Here it is right here.
First of all, I think, and I know the H-1B very well, and it's something that I frankly use, and I shouldn't be allowed to use.
We shouldn't have it.
Very, very bad for workers.
And second of all, I think it's very important to say, well, I'm a businessman, and I have to do what I have to do, and it's sitting there waiting for you, but it's very bad.
It's very bad for business in terms of, it's very bad for our workers, and it's unfair for our workers, and we should end it.
Well, he's now making record use of it personally.
And he's not doing it, you know, this whole thing was sold as, well, we've got people who are computer experts or science experts or something like that.
And so we need to bring them in because they've got special quote-unquote talent, right?
Not as if you can't learn that yourself, folks.
I tell you, you can.
And there's plenty of Americans who can learn that.
And yet, you know, we've got to bring them in.
It isn't about that at all.
It's not about talent.
It's about saving money.
And that's what Trump is doing.
He's bringing in people to work in his kitchen, to do his yard, and all the rest of stuff, using an H-1B visa so that he can do it legally.
And it's not about getting people in that can have special talents and special abilities that Americans don't have.
It's about him saving money.
And so one Maya person said, I feel betrayed, to say the least, after they told the country about the yearly fees to fight H-1B abuse, only to walk it back within 24 hours.
A further attack on American workers and his base.
I'm guessing that Jason Miller had something to do with it.
He is a paid shill for India who works against American workers.
He also runs Getter.
He is paid directly by the Indian government.
And they included an article where India is paying him $1.8 million a year as a lobbyist.
And he was meeting with Trump in the midst of all the tariff fights that are there.
And so Donald Trump in 2016, you heard what he had to say.
And as another person pointed out, he's done a complete 180.
For those who fell for the grift, ask yourself why you trusted a world-famous liar.
And I suggest that you unfollow all of his mindless cheerleaders.
I would too.
I would suggest you unfollow people like Steve Bannon, Alex Jones, WND, Breitbart, all these people, Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, all these people have their interests.
They're shilling for themselves as they show for Trump.
They're making money for themselves.
Or they're shilling, in the case of Ben Shilpiro, they're shilling for Israel or Mark Levin.
I saw it myself after 30 years in IT, wrote one person.
He said, teams that were once all-American turned 80 to 95% H-1B with people rolling workers in while the old staff were laid off and forced to train their replacements.
If these people have skills and talents that we don't have, why do we have to train them when they come in to replace us for less money?
I'm talking fleets of coach buses.
These workers were stacked six deep in some bedroom apartments.
Corporations used H-1Bs as a launch pad to move jobs overseas.
For example, the corporation I worked for just laid off 5,000 workers to shift that entire segment offshore.
With the onshore pipeline cut, the next move is tariffs and contract rules to block the offshore shift and bring control back home.
So, you know, see what happens with this.
But he really has opened up.
Yeah, go ahead.
I just want to say we can see if this were true, we should see an increase in quality in the things we're enjoying from these companies that are hiring the H-1B workers or, you know, from these people that hire these construction workers to build things.
Is that what we're seeing?
Are we seeing better products?
No, we're seeing the incidentation of everything.
We're seeing the quality of our software decrease.
It doesn't work as well.
It's harder to use.
The interfaces are worse.
They're more buggy.
They crash more frequently.
Our houses are less quality.
They're lower quality.
They fall apart faster.
Everything is worse than it was 50 years ago.
Aside from the expediency of things, things are more expedient.
Things are easier.
They're cheaper.
But they're not better.
It's all about the greed.
It's all about these corporations who want to get the next amount of Donald Trump is exhibit A of this.
They don't care about anything other than making an extra penny, just a little bit more.
And they'll cut anybody's throat in order to do it.
And Donald Trump is yet another one of those.
When I had my apartment in Austin, the day I moved in, this place had been open for about six months, maybe.
The siding was falling off of the building because the construction company they hired to build this place did a bad job.
They used the wrong adhesive.
They put it on badly.
They had to block off parking spaces because entire sheets of this stuff were just falling off and hitting cars and damaging it.
This was a six-month-old apartment complex that was already falling apart because the people they hired weren't skilled workers.
They were the cheapest workers.
They did it at a bargain and they did it wrong.
Well, you know, don't worry about it.
It's just fine.
It's not all that many people, right?
And there was a great meme that came up.
There was a Venn diagram, and it was what Donald Trump and Elon Musk are saying, as well as General Custer, and where the two of them intersect.
What do they have in common?
Well, this Venn diagram has them both saying, well, it's really not that many Indians, trust me.
That's the intersection of General Custer, Donald Trump, and Elon Musk is right there.
And of course, that was put up after first when Elon Musk was trashing American workers along with Vivate the Snake Ramaswamy, who, of course, Trump has just endorsed for governor of Ohio.
And so they put that up with Elon Musk.
Now they've crossed out Musk's name and put Trump in there because they're all from the same place.
I mean, Trump is a Democrat from New York who loves to tax and spend, and he is fully on board as a puppet for the technocrats as well as for Israel.
That's all you need to know about this guy.
And the fact that he called you non-essential in 2020.
And I said at the time, I said, so if we had gotten Hillary Clinton, she would have called us deplorable.
Donald Trump calls us non-essential as he destroys our businesses on Main Street.
That's what these people are about.
And so what Trump should have said, says Revolver, trying to cheer him on.
This is another approach.
First of all, you can say, well, trust the plan.
He knows what he's doing.
His instincts are great.
He's got some bad people there that he hired, that he put in place.
And he's got to work against them.
And they're deceiving him a little bit.
Don't worry, says Alex Jones.
Trust the plan.
Steve Bannon tells us he's God's man.
He's infused with divine holiness or whatever, right?
And then you have Revolver, where they will also try to, the other approach that they'll take is, well, yeah, that's right.
This is what he should have said.
Except that he didn't say that, Revolver.
You put something out.
This is what he should have said.
This is what we all believe.
Let's all hang in there and keep supporting Republicans and keep supporting Trump.
America can and should train more welders, coders, nurses, and engineers.
And maybe sometimes in highly specialized trades, we need foreign help.
We can protect American jobs and still bring in specialized people.
Well, that was what was said when they passed this H-1B thing in the 1990s.
But then that's not how they've used it.
They've used it to hire cheap foreign labor and to replace Americans.
So again, you give them preferences at college.
You give them preferences at the jobs because why?
Not because they're special, because you can get people in as indentured servants.
You can pay them slave wages and you can stack them six deep in the beds and they'll put up with it.
Revolver is just another cheerleader with a different type of spin.
And I see it everywhere.
We have a video in the deck talking about exactly that, the training of H-1B visa workers, Ferdbro, second video.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm about to get to that here.
The Trump organization requested record number of foreign workers this year, this year.
Remember going back to nine years ago, he was saying, yeah, I hire H-1B people.
It's bad.
I have to do it as a business, but we shouldn't allow this type of thing.
So he hasn't ended it in his first term.
He hasn't ended it now.
Instead, he is exploiting that low-wage loophole there.
As I said before, H-1, homeland first, and the B, betrayal.
So it's who he is.
It's who Vivek is.
It's who Musk is.
They're all about infinite greed.
They're grifters who have no loyalty to anyone in America.
And their only loyalty is to the almighty dollar and how they can get more of it.
So they bring in these foreign temps.
And one way to look at this, you know, we talk about people, you want to buy American.
Do you think that Trump and Musk can buy Vaik Ramaswamy and the rest of these people?
Do you think they want to buy American labor?
No, no.
They want the cheapest possible.
No talent is required, as a matter of fact.
The Trump organization's request for a record number of foreign workers in 2025 through the H-2A and H-2B visas for temporary positions.
They're going to hire 566 foreign laborers in total.
The company sought to hire workers through the H-2A and H-2B visas for temporary positions at Mar-Lago two golf clubs and at the Trump Vineyard Estates in Charlottesville, Virginia.
Trump's first term in the first nine months of his second term, the Trump organization increased from 121 in 2021 to 184 in 2025, according to Forbes.
Overall, they have filed to have 566 foreign laborers to work as, here's the special talents that they need, right?
Servers, farm workers, kitchen staff, clerks, and housekeepers.
This is why we've got to bring people in.
Because Americans don't have the talent to work as farm workers, servers, kitchen staff, clerks, and housekeepers?
No, because Trump can get them cheap.
And everybody sees it.
You know, to get these visa programs, they've got to go through the Department of Labor, and then they have to petition the Department of Homeland Security.
And then after that, the State Department has to issue the visas.
It's a lot of trouble to do that.
And there's three major departments of the federal government that are involved in doing this.
And so he argued that the U.S. doesn't have enough people with certain talents.
What is that special talent?
The willingness to work for slave wages.
You can't take people off an unemployment line and say, I'm going to put you into a factory where you're going to make missiles.
You just got to keep them on that unemployment line.
You keep them dependent on government control.
Marjorie Taylor Greene said, I'm solidly against you being replaced by foreign labor, like with H-1Bs.
And so, again, it was set up in the 1990s to bring in people who had certain specialty occupations.
You know, special occupations like kitchen staff, clerks, and housekeepers for Trump's organizations.
And so in September, he made a big deal about signing this H-1B visa fees of $100,000 to encourage companies to hire American workers instead.
I said at the time I didn't believe it.
I don't think he believes it either.
And so, again, one person said America was a great country and was leading in technological innovation long before the H-1B visa program was ever around.
Maybe we should say make America America again.
Ma.
Sounds kind of like the sound some of the sheep make, doesn't it?
It's up there, bah.
The real talent of H-1B visa holders is their willingness to work for less than an American.
Immigration is 100% inseparable from the affordability question because immigrants drive down wages.
That's why Trump won.
Because he wasn't afraid to say that.
Now he needs to do that, said one person.
Hey, you need to wake up, right?
What he says, what he does, are two completely different things.
But they will never hold him responsible for what he actually does.
And so the H-1B ripoff is really what we're talking about here.
100,000 H-1B visa holders in America.
Now, who is coming to this country to take these high-skilled jobs?
As I mentioned, STEM fields dominate the occupations.
And most of the workers come from India.
In fact, 70% of H-1B visa holders come from India.
Another 10 to 15% come from China.
80% of H-1B visa approvals are for entry-level or junior level jobs.
Hard to stomach when we hear that we're not talented enough or that we're not skilled enough for these jobs when you consider that most of these jobs are actually at entry or junior level jobs.
And it's definitely to the benefit companies that can hire foreign workers, trust me on this, cheaper than American workers.
This is laid out, by the way, by billionaire tech entrepreneur Palmer Lucky.
There's so much H-1B abuse.
You would not believe what I saw when I was in Silicon Valley.
It is insane.
It's obviously a program to try and replace U.S. workers with basically slave labor that can't ever escape.
H-1B abuse is crazy.
Yeah, well, when he comes, gets elected to political office, he'll change his tune as well, won't he?
Byron Donalds is running for governor in Florida.
He's a congressman right now.
And he's come out very strong on this issue, talking about it.
And he's got a solution, he thinks.
He said, the issue is the educational system, which has to be fixed.
He's still wrong on this.
Education should not be about training you to fill in as a widget in corporate America.
It ought to be training you for critical thinking.
It ought to be giving you the tools of learning.
This is what the homeschoolers in classical education talk about.
Getting the tools of learning, equipping people to be able to continue to learn their entire life instead of just feeding them something.
And of course, a big part of what's wrong with education is this attitude that you need to be trained to do jobs for corporate America.
Because as R.L. Davney pointed out right after the Civil War, he said that's kind of apprenticeship work.
That's kind of on-the-job training.
Certainly there's a place for that.
And many people may want to do that.
But he said, real education involves moral understanding and moral training, as well as critical thinking.
And he said, the government has no business being in education because somebody's worldview, somebody's morality, somebody's religion is going to be taught.
And the government should not be picking sides in that fight.
And that's what is what?
Whole education system was always about creating obedient factory workers.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah, it was very much in the mold of the Industrial Revolution, you know, where it's an assembly line that you're going through here so that you can take your place in the assembly line when you get out.
And so now one of the things that Byron Donalds thinks is that we should do a better job of training people to take their place in the corporate assembly line instead of thinking for yourself, instead of becoming an entrepreneur or something.
Also, he thinks, and this is really scary because this is the way the Republicans who create the problem or who propagate the problem if the Democrats started it, and then they come up with a solution to the government-created problem that is going to actually be an even bigger problem, and that is biometric identification at the borders.
He said, we need to have a biometric exit system because we need to know when these people that we've given a visa to, we need to know if they've left.
And if not, we need to be able to track them down.
So we need to have biometric ID, says this Republican, who's running in Florida.
And of course, the Republicans in Florida, along with DeSantis, have already pushed through a mandatory E-Verify where you'd have to identify yourself and report to the federal government in order to be able to get a job.
And yet it's the federal government who is stabbing us in the back and undermining our country with the H-1B visa.
You think they're really going to protect us with mandatory E-Verify?
Of course they're not.
It's just an excuse to get you to have a digital ID where they can track and control everything that you do.
What an idiotic, bad faith statement that is to say that a digital ID will somehow stop the government from importing massive amounts of foreigners under their H-1B visa program, which is legal anyway.
They would legally get that ID.
That's right.
I know.
Again, it's the inability.
We have people who are uneducated because they haven't been able to think critically about what they're being told.
They just go with whatever the authorities are telling them.
That's the worst lesson that you can learn in school.
It's like this guy is making a point about how poorly educated Americans are by trying to pull one over on them in the most obvious way.
Well, you know, Ben Shapiro has jumped in on the H-1B thing, showing yet again his contempt for these stupid Americans that they are using back and forth, as you point out.
There are, in fact, certain positions in the United States that require a level of expertise that may be teachable in the numbers that are currently being turned out by American universities.
That is a shortcoming of our educational system, and it is a problem.
And so you can say we should up our game education.
I agree.
We should absolutely up our game educationally.
We should educate more Chinese.
If you do not bring in the labor supply, particularly to tech, tech will go find the labor supply.
And so what you'll end up with is an office that was employing 30 Americans and three H-1B visa people.
If the cost grow too high, simply moving to another country where they hire 30 Indians and zero Americans.
Yeah, we got to do what the corporations want.
The reason companies offshore is not because it's easy or fun to simply move your company somewhere else.
It's because the labor cost becomes so prohibitive in the United States that companies move away.
Poor corporations.
They can't make enough profit.
But all that does is artificially raise the price on Americans.
Again, we're talking about affordability.
There are trade-offs in economics.
Autarky comes with the fun feeling that everybody in America is making American product.
It comes with the very large downside that your products are economically inefficient, they don't work as well, and you're not globally competitive.
All policies have trade-offs.
That's right.
So are you going to start importing workers into Israel for your country than Ben Shapiro?
And of course, he tells you: if you're not making enough money here in America, you just need to get out of America.
He's really good about telling people to get out of their own country, isn't he?
If you're a young person and you can't afford to live here, then maybe you should not live here.
I mean, that is a real thing.
I know that we've now grown up in a society that says that you deserve to live where you grew up, but the reality is that the history of America is almost literally the opposite of that.
The history of America is you go to a place where there is opportunity.
And if the opportunities are limited here and they're not changing, then you really should try to think about other places where you have better opportunities.
Yeah.
I guess go to Israel, right?
Yeah, with Gaza.
That's what I was going to say.
You know, you really can't afford to live here.
These buildings keep falling down for some reason.
You're going to have to just get out of here.
Well, again, as you were pointing out earlier, Lance, we know exactly what is happening with this H-1B stuff.
Don't tell us, Trump, Chump.
Don't tell us that we can't do housekeeping.
We've got to bring in other people.
We know exactly what you're doing.
And when you bring people in and Americans get fired, but they have to train people before they train these new replacements working for less money coming from a foreign country.
Don't tell us we don't have talent.
That's what Disney did, and that's what Trump is doing.
The H-1B Visa bill was written in 1990.
It lets companies recruit foreign talent for emerging engineering and scientific jobs.
But loopholes allow for outsourcing of American jobs to foreign workers, often at lower pay.
Bill Whitaker spoke to some Americans displaced by H-1B visa workers for Sunday 60 Minutes.
They say they were asked to train workers who would take their jobs.
It wasn't called training your replacement.
It was called knowledge transfer.
Craig D'Angelo worked for East Utilities.
Great replacement, is what we call them and was one of 220 IT workers replaced by H-1B visa employees.
D'Angelo says his replacement, a worker from India, told him he was making half D'Angelo's salary with no benefits.
I didn't get laid off for lack of work.
I got laid off because somebody cheaper could do my job.
We met with this group of workers who all had to train replacements.
Leo Perero had just received high performance reviews from Disney.
When he was called into a personnel meeting, he expected a raise and a promotion.
And instead.
I was given the news that in 90 days, my job was over and I had to train my replacement.
Never in my life did I imagine until this happened at Disney that I could be sitting at my desk and somebody would be flown in from another country, sit at my same desk and chair and take over what I was doing.
It was the most humiliating and demoralizing thing I've ever gone through in my life.
Bill Whitaker is with us.
So how do companies explain this?
Well, the companies will all tell you that this is standard industrial procedure for helping to boost efficiency and lower costs.
But I will say in the case of Disney there, CEO Bob Iger did say that having his employees train their replacements was a mistake and that he feels sorry for that and he apologized for that.
He didn't give them their jobs about employees.
Most of them were still out of work.
I mean, how has the H-1 program changed?
Is it being misused?
It was put in place to help American companies get the best global talent.
You know, to be able to bring somebody from a foreign country if you couldn't find that employee here in the U.S.
But there are loopholes in the law that allow the companies to go out and get someone who's not especially a special engineer or employee, but someone who's cheaper.
And so you're able to bring in these foreign workers who are here primarily because they cost less than the American.
I love that phrase knowledge transfer bill.
I think that's a great euphemism, huh?
Very good euphemism.
Are there any plans to close the loopholes in Congress?
Well, there are a number of bills being discussed in Congress.
Some in the Senate is a little surprising.
No, because these corporations own Congress.
They own them.
They buy them.
You know, we wonder why there has been such a concentration of wealth, such a massive wealth transfer.
Well, because the corporations have figured out that because we have put so much power in Washington that all they have to do is to give some contributions to the people in Washington, they can get whatever they want.
Same thing that Israel is doing.
Same thing for all kinds of foreign countries.
Foreign corporations, domestic corporations are all doing this.
They buy these corrupt SOBs in Washington and people like Trump, and they have carte blanc to do whatever they wish.
And what they want is to concentrate wealth.
And so these people have the greatest concentration of wealth, the greatest transfer of wealth.
Folks, this is going to feed socialism.
And that's what these people want, as a matter of fact.
And for these people like Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, and others who are going to be out there cheerleading for Trump simply because he's owned by Israel.
They're going to tell you that, yeah, we need to have kitchen workers, clerks, housekeepers, people doing the lawn.
We've got to have them from foreign countries.
These people are lying to you.
Just like Trump, just like Musk, just like Vivaj, the billionaires who are profiting from it.
They've got an agenda as well.
Levin and Shapiro.
These people are lying to you for their own benefit.
You need to stop listening to them.
Start thinking for yourself.
As one person said, apparently these workers are so talented that Americans have to train them first before they get their pink slips.
CS Lance.
I was just going to address his arguments in that if you ignore the obvious fraud and the fact that they aren't getting skilled laborers, if you just look at his, oh, well, they'll send all of the jobs overseas.
It goes back to that comment from a few days ago from a listener saying, is it the national income that matters or is it the average income?
You know, you'll have a few businesses that might pay taxes that are going to make a lot of profit, but that's going to drive down the average income of Americans.
That's right.
Is it GDP or is it your, you know, the average income versus the rest of the stuff?
Well, you know, we're told that this has to be there because of science and engineering and things like that.
Well, a study that was done back in December 2024 showed this.
China, India, Russia, and USA.
What is that?
You see that the U.S. is above the line and the others are quite a bit below the line, India being the lowest one.
What they're looking at in that is data showing U.S. college seniors studying computer science outperforming their foreign counterparts by almost a standard deviation.
But you can't get a job if you're an American.
It's getting to the point where you can't even get into college.
And this is one of the reasons why we're seeing the, as Corey Doctorow called it, the insidification of technology, of software.
It's kind of like what happens when you do a customer service and you get a call rep who can't really speak English in another country.
That's what's happening to the software industry as well.
And is it talent or is it slave wages that they're looking for?
Well, again, Steve Bannon.
Yeah, go ahead.
It's just, I've said it before, and I know some people don't like it, but different people groups are different.
They want different things.
They achieve different things.
If every people group was the same, we would all have countries that looked the same.
We wouldn't have different cultures.
We wouldn't have certain countries that have invented fighter jets and certain countries that haven't.
They want different things and they achieve different things differently.
We can say, you know, even people from, you know, Hong Kong, you know, maybe they're very liberty-minded, but they're probably different in the way they go about it and the way they think about these things than someone from the West.
They're very different cultures.
China has a very, very different culture.
A lot of the Chinese don't necessarily even consider the Chinese party to be oppressive.
This is their reality.
This is what they want, and they don't care about pursuing liberty.
It's not a uniquely white Western European thing, but it is more so a white Western European thing to care about liberty.
These countries have spent a lot longer devoting time and thought to this type of thing, to these philosophies and these policies than other countries have.
Well, again, you know, people coming to America.
Yeah, people coming to America, it used to be people would come with the Ellis Island thing.
They didn't have any money.
They didn't have any assets.
They had the clothes on their back.
And they came here because of freedom.
We don't live in a free country anymore.
We have a highly managed, monopolistic society.
The reason people are coming here is because they want free stuff, because they want to get a piece of the money, but not because they want liberty.
And so liberty is dying in the hearts of Americans, as well as the people who are coming here.
They don't get that experience at all.
Bannon is trying to make excuses for this.
He says, corporate America always will find a workaround.
Cheaper labor, no benefits, no loyalty.
If you want to think our veterans don't just say it, hire Americans and so forth.
And yet, he cheers Trump, who always finds a workaround.
He finds a way to work around the rule of law, the Constitution, and even the American workers who voted for him.
Well, he tells them that he has got some kind of special divine power that he's been given.
He made the case again, Bannon did, for economic nationalism.
He says, this is a populist movement, and you've got to understand what we're doing.
You've got to, finally, we're fighting back.
We're going to win.
And you've got to stay the course.
We're on a bombing run.
So this is, you know, as Trump is doing this and slitting our throats with foreign workers and slitting our throats with 600,000 Chinese people at the institutions that are also undermining all American values.
As all of that is happening, he's telling he's waving the American flag.
And he's telling you that this is a populist war, a populist victory.
And Bannon is waving the American flag, urging patriots to stay focused on the mission.
He is waving a false flag, folks.
That's what so many of these people do.
As a matter of fact, one article is saying, we are so back.
White House Post posted this and said, we're so back.
We're doing such a great job.
And it's amazing what a lot of conservatives were saying.
There was actually an entire article written by it.
It was effectively impossible to find somebody who agreed with a proclamation.
We are so back.
People said things like, nah, man, not after this week.
You betrayed your voters for foreigners and for bankers.
Well, you know, maybe better late than never.
These people completely missed 2020.
They can't even, with hindsight, see 2020.
You know, they always say hindsight is 2020.
These people don't have any hindsight to look back and see what happened.
Another one says, you sold us out.
Another one said, so glad to hear it that we're so back.
Now, please fix this.
You weren't elected by foreigners.
So we're so back.
We're back to bringing 600,000 plus Chinese students in a year.
We're back to have 50-year mortgage, 15-year car loans.
Israel and India first.
Diwali celebrations.
Last time I checked, the only thing that was back was the unvetted H-1B policies.
Maybe we're back to replacing whites legally and with due process, said another.
Totally tone deaf.
Another one said, please stop focusing on foreign countries.
Well, that focus on foreign countries is what has him focused so much on war.
Another one said, I'm a registered Republican here.
We're going to be setting out the midterms.
Good luck with that.
I can't wait to have infinite Indians come and save America.
Thank God there are more Indians in India than whites on planet Earth.
Again, back to the Custer and Trump Venn diagram.
After having al-Qaeda in the Oval Office, maybe you should take the rest of the week off, they said to Trump.
This administration is as tone deaf as the last one and beyond pathetic.
Well, again, I didn't vote for it.
You didn't vote for it, I'm sure.
Because we could see what happened in 2020.
Yes, Travis.
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You know, we talk about inflation, and Gerald has gone exactly the opposite.
What you used to have it, what was it like monthly or quarterly, I think, Trends Journal?
Yeah, it started as a quarterly, then it became a monthly, and now it's a weekly.
And with two discounts, it's the grand total of $2.50 a week.
Yeah.
So it's pennies a day.
And we're giving people what they're not getting anywhere else in the world.
You go to YouTube and look at the comments on it.
You know, we tell you what the world is going on, what it means, and what's next.
And we're not prostitutes.
We're not media whores that get paid to put out by the corporate pimps and government whoremasters.
And again, the big zone everything.
Oh, the trillionaire owns X.
Oh, that guy, Larry Ellison, he gave his little boy CBS when he brought in that Barry Weiss or Wurst.
And oh, the pro-Zionists.
Yeah.
And it's one after another.
That's right.
Murdoch, billionaires own the media.
Yeah, everything.
Journalism is dead.
So we're giving people what they're not getting anywhere else.
And the more people that support us, the better it is for everybody.
And I'm heartbroken to see what's going on in the world.
And again, we're talking about this.
Now this guy's coming out with a big short and saying that there might be an AI bust.
This is only the cover of the magazine back in February, dot-com bust 2.0.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a now it means something.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The guy, you know, again, here's the Trends Journal when it was a quarterly, the autumn edition, dot-com this.
We forecast the dot-com bust in the autumn of 1999.
Right here, all the facts saying it was going to bust by the second quarter of 2000, which it did.
Trends are born, they grow, they mature, reach old age and die.
You don't invest all your money in a trend that was just born.
And the trend that was just born is the AI.
Go to the facts.
It became public, what, 2022?
It's three years old.
It's an infant.
You don't invest all your dough in the infant companies.
And that's what they've done.
Let's go back and put again.
In tracking trends, you make connections between different fields.
I've mentioned this before.
Remember, this was a t-shirt that I did when Clinton ran for office in 1992, just to show you the way I feel.
This is a slime ball.
The arrogant, arrogant, arrogant piece of scum that stole our jobs and brought them to Mexico, NAFTA.
Yeah.
Oh, and then bringing China into the World Trade Organization.
This has everything to do with AI, by the way.
Oh, by the way, a lot of other crap to deregulate the 1996 Federal Communications Act that now six companies control all the media.
That slime ball that's now worth about $130 million and he didn't have a penny to his name.
Hey, don't you know who I am?
I sold the country out.
Oh, you forgot the Glass-Steagall Act that I just got rid of?
Yeah.
I could pay $300,000 an hour to BS.
All right.
Anyway, that slime ball brings China into the World Trade Organization.
He officially came in two weeks after 9-11.
Again, going back to AI.
In 2000, you look at China's GDP from 1970 to 2000.
It's like this.
They come in, boop, skyrockets, as the Western companies went to China to get cheap labor and gave them all the manufacturing, high-tech, and heavy industry that they never had.
Going back.
2000, some 10% of Chinese 18-year-olds went to college.
Now, almost 70%.
70%, you got a country of 1.4 billion compared to America.
We got about 340 million.
They got over a billion more people than us.
The young people are going to college, oh, and they're not taking gender studies or art history.
They're taking high-tech.
That's right.
And young people are high-tech addicted.
And they're coming here and pushing Americans out of the colleges and then taking their place in the colleges, taking their places in the jobs.
I mean, we have onshored foreign workers here.
And one of the things, Gerald, I remember back in 2017 when Trump did the tax cut saying it's going to cause Americans to come back.
And you said at the time, no, it's not.
These companies are going to buy their own stock.
Apple was a very good example of that, right?
They bought their own stock and made a fortune with that.
And I said at the time, I thought that we weren't really going to have manufacturing come back until it was on the horizon that they could fully automate it robotically and in other ways.
And I still think that's the case.
This is a temporary stopgap.
In the interim, they want to bring in slave labor, slave wages from other countries.
But the ultimate goal is to I don't think manufacturing is going to come back until they can do it without any workers, especially Americans.
What do you think?
You're right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, everything's become robotic.
But going back to the dot-com bust, again, we write about it each week in the magazine.
You look at the facts.
China is investing very heavily in AI.
Go back to January of this year.
All of a sudden, a company called DeepSee comes out.
Oh, we don't need to spend $100 million to create our AI.
We did it for $6 million.
Oh, we don't need those big chips.
China is going to lead the world in AI.
The young people are totally addicted to it.
AI is the future.
Robotics are the future.
Not thinking for yourself is the future.
And China is going to lead the world in it.
So going back, there's going to be a dot-com bust.
These companies are losing money like crazy.
And they're investing trillions of dollars into it.
So we're going to have a dot-com bust 2.0, and it could happen by the end of this year.
Let's go back to, you mentioned about 2017 when Trump passed that tax law.
And according to the Tax Policy Center, by the way, the 1% got 64% of the benefits.
1%.
That's right.
And it was the biggest year of stock buybacks that year in the history of America.
They didn't use the money, like Trump said, for capital improvements.
None of it.
And that's what you predicted from the very beginning.
He said it's just going to be buybacks.
And that's exactly what it was.
You know, when we look at the help that he's going to give small businesses with the CARES Act, again, more than 50% of the money went to less than 5% of the people who applied for it.
And they were all big corporations.
Same type of thing.
Look what happened when they called the COVID war.
Look at the billions of dollars they gave to the big corporations.
That's right.
And you've got to close your business down.
You're a little nobody.
That's right.
So going back to this dot-com bust, let's go back to December 2018.
It was the worst December in the Dow since the Great Depression.
And Trump forced Powell to lower interest rates, which he did in 2019, in January.
And what happened in 2019?
Oh, remember the repo crisis?
Yeah.
As the stock markets went up 22% that year?
We have another repo crisis coming as well.
All this cheap money, all the borrowing back and forth, all them playing the game.
This thing is going to explode.
And now you're starting to feel it on Wall Street.
We're going to see a bear market and probably a crash.
And it's going to be global.
It's going to bring down the equity markets, the global economy, and gold prices will skyrocket.
Gold's not having a great day today.
As you went on the air, it's down about $77.
Go back to my podcast on October 16th.
I said that Thursday that gold is going to go down almost $500 an ounce.
Back then, it was trading around $4,379 the next day at a high.
And then it went down.
It went down almost $500.
Nothing goes straight up or straight down.
Sure.
This is going to be a correction.
Then last week, I've said gold has to solidify over $4,000 an ounce for it to go back up.
So that's what we're looking at now.
If it goes below 4,000, you're going to see it go down a bit more.
When it solidifies around 4,200, 4,300, you're going to see the next takeoff.
That's our forecast.
And silver prices along with it.
Again, what price are you looking at for silver?
You say around, it's going to solidify around $4,000.
If it does that, it's couching for a spring, if you will.
What's the level for silver that you think?
Oh, silver's right where it is.
Silver could keep going up from the point it is.
We don't see – you're not going to – again, silver is being used from everything from high tech to heavy industry.
Sure.
And unlike gold, like let's say you have a gold bracelet or a gold ring or whatever, they melt it down and reuse it.
Not silver.
It's in computers.
It's in everything.
You throw it away.
It's garbage.
It's gone.
So you don't have stockpiles of this stuff.
You put it in missiles and blow it up.
That's right.
So we see silver could easily go to $60 an ounce.
You know, what you're talking about in terms of, you know, we're looking, when the bubble bursts, it's going to be really, really bad because we've already seen a situation like this with the mortgage bubble that happened.
And the timing looks like it's pretty short.
I think, to me, that was the key issue.
If Michael Burry, who's going to look at the reality of this thing, is going to put his money in it, I mean, he thinks it's going to happen pretty soon because he already got burned in the last one, you know, as they were rigging the market.
That's the whole thing about that book and that movie.
What surprised the people who saw the folly and saw the bubble and the nonsense and fraud, they were amazed at how long the institutions and the government were able to keep covering up that fraud.
And so they're paying big cover charges to keep those short positions.
So again, he's learned something from that experience.
So he's thinking that this is pretty soon that it's going to happen.
As I said, it could happen next month.
Wow.
Wow.
And it's definitely going to happen.
It's going to crash the equity markets.
And globally.
Again, this is very important.
You go to the mainstream media.
They hardly, by the way, report on gold.
And then they say, you know, this is comparable to when gold started spiking in the late 1970s.
And again, my book, Trend Tracking, far better than Megatrends, Time Magazine, I wrote about that's how I started buying gold in the late 1970s.
It's a very different world.
Back in the late 1970s, America was number one.
Nobody was close to us.
You look at China's GDP back in 1978.
It was like about $100 and something billion dollars.
Same thing with India.
Now China's GDP is 20 trillion.
Yeah, that's true.
Now, so the difference is now there's going to be a death of the dollar.
The global economy, the global markets have had enough of the United States geopolitical and economic hegemony.
They're finished with it.
BRICS now, BRICS GDP, when you put them together, it accounts for 40% of the world's gross domestic product.
And again, you go to your Trends Journal, read the facts.
They're buying up Chinese bonds now.
Indonesia, other countries, they're going more and more into China.
Yeah, it's still very small, but trends are born.
They grow, they mature, reach old age, and die.
The death of the dollar is coming.
Now, here's the other deal.
One of the reasons why gold went down today is because now the Fed's saying they're not going to lower interest rates next month.
The lower the interest rates go, the deeper the dollar falls.
The deeper the dollar falls, the higher gold prices go up.
Gold is dollar-based.
So when the dollar goes down, other currencies go up, it's cheaper for them to buy gold.
Trump forced Powell to lower interest rates when we had the worst December in 2018 since the Great Depression.
And by the way, this is going to be the greatest depression, the next one we see.
Wow.
Not the Great Depression, the greatest depression.
He did it before.
He'll do it again.
Trump wants to see.
Look at the stupidity he came out with about bragging that inflation hasn't gone up and oil prices, what do you say?
Gas prices are down to $2 a barrel, a gallon?
Well, you look it up.
Google it up.
Average gas prices in America are over $3 a gallon.
I know.
Lying right in front of everybody's eyes.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
About everything.
About everything.
Oh, by the way, before I forget, this is very important.
Remember, as Trent forecasts, it's not what you like, what you want, what you wish for.
It's what is.
Election in New York City.
I was going to ask you about that.
Yeah, what trend do you see from Mount Benny?
Again, very important.
So I start talking about it, and people go, oh, I hate that socialist.
I say, well, you shut the hell up.
Let me explain to you what's going on.
This is historical.
Again, I'm a New Yorker.
I'm a Bronx cat, right?
I know New York City.
A little boy of nothing that nobody ever heard of all of a sudden becomes the mayor of the largest city in America.
A Muslim wins in the city of the world that has the largest Jewish population outside of Israel.
Back to Slick William, 1992.
The behind the scenes in his campaign staff was the saying, it's the economy, stupid.
That's why Mandani won.
And that's why Trump won.
Trump promised to help we the people of Slavery.
I'm going to create jobs and give you more money.
All right, now let's go again.
I've read hours and hours and hours, day after day after day after day, since Mandani won the primary and beat Cuomo.
Biggest group that turned out in the primary to vote, the biggest sector, Gen Z, 18 to 28-year-olds.
The biggest number of people that voted in the election that they just had last week, Gen Z, the millennial generation, increased 30%.
They went out and voted for Mandani.
The reason being, they have no future.
They can't get a job.
Going back to AI, AI is wiping out new jobs for young people, particularly with college education.
Again, you look at all the companies that are going with AI.
Now you got to look globally.
Madagascar, Morocco, Tanzania, Kenya, Nepal.
Gen Zs taking to the streets by the hundreds of thousands in protest.
They have no future.
They can't find a job, can't earn a living.
Again, like I said, it's not what you like, what you want.
You think I want to pay for child care?
You got your kids, you raise them.
I got to pay that money.
I'm just saying it's not what you like, what you want.
It's what is.
The people are busted.
It's the economy's stupid.
And number two, this election, the people want a new party.
This guy's a Democratic socialist.
That's his party.
Let's go back.
Socialist, go back, Google it up, listen to Donald Trump's State of the Union address when he's trying to overthrow the Maduro government back when he was president in 2019, 2020.
He calls Maduro a socialist dictator.
Oh, it had nothing to do with the lie about the drug trafficking, by the way.
He had that little boy Guaido there when he's giving that.
Everybody stands up.
This is the real president, little Guaido.
Oh, the CIA guy, that guy?
Oh, yeah.
Again, nothing to do with drugs, but I'm telling you, he called him a socialist dictator.
Mandani is a socialist.
It's showing you how desperate the people are.
And it's showing you also the time is now for a new third party.
The people don't like either one of them.
That this kid, again, we've both been 34 years old.
He's just starting to grow up.
This guy does a great act, by the way.
He's terrific at what he does.
But again, a Muslim in the most Jewish populated city in the world outside of Israel.
And he wins big.
And if Sliwa didn't run as a Republican, Cuomo still would have lost.
That's right.
I pointed that out because everybody was trash and Sliwa.
And I said, well, you know, Mom Danny got over 50%.
What was it, like 50.4 or something like that?
So I said, it doesn't matter.
You can total up everybody else on the other side.
He's still got more than ⁇ that's the way this thing works.
You get more than 50%, you win.
And they just don't want to face the reality of it.
As you pointed out, people are sick of the Democrats and the Republicans.
A lot of people that they interviewed didn't know what socialism was.
They just wanted something different.
And I think another factor of it, and one of the reasons why when you look at the fact that the Democrats, so many Democrats like Bernie Sanders and others, hardcore socialists, and even many of the aspects of what Trump is doing and the Republican Party is doing is embraced socialism and central planning and government ownership of corporations.
And yet, I think the real issue too, even though it was the city that's got the large number of Jews there, I played a couple of clips from Jewish people who were angry about what Israel was doing.
I had an Orthodox rabbi who was talking about it, said, we don't support this, and I don't want to be conflated with what they're doing.
He said, I think that's a very dangerous thing to say that all Jews agree with Benjamin Netanyahu.
And there was also a guy who was on the street who did that.
So, you know, it was a pushback.
And I remember the debate where they had all the people there, and of course, the press amazingly was saying, Where's the first place that you would visit?
Would it be Israel?
Why not?
Why wouldn't you go to Israel?
And I was kind of just hectoring him about it.
And he's like, Well, I'm going to stay here because I'd be the mayor of New York, and that's what I'm supposed to do instead of going around all over the world.
And that's what everybody's been hitting Trump with.
It's like, you're only concerned about foreign policy.
You don't care what's going on with America.
And we're seeing this over and over again from all these people.
Just, you know, like you said, we're sick and tired of the Republicans and Democrats because they're all focused on something else.
They don't care what's happening here in America.
Or they're focused on helping their big, powerful friends get bigger and more powerful.
So I think all those things were there.
But when you're talking about how helpless Gen C feels, Gen Z feels around the world.
Gerald, when I was going back and looking at asymmetric warfare stuff, the Pentagon was having these, they would have these meetings and they would put the meetings up on YouTube and they would get over five or six years, they might get 200 views or something like that.
But what they were saying consistently was that what creates these terrorist leaders, they said they weren't religiously motivated.
Many of them came from a situation where they were highly educated, a wealthy family, at least upper-middle class, and many of them engineers and that type of thing.
And they would, but what motivated them initially, they would eventually turn to religion.
But what motivated them originally was the fact that they had no future.
They had no control of their life.
And so they were saying that was what motivated them.
And that's what we're doing right now.
You know, we are occupying everybody's country, I think, with this foreign thing called AI.
And even if AI can't do the job right now, you'll still have the corporation fire you and under the expectation that someday the AI is going to do the job.
And so that's what people are seeing.
I mean, the job cuts are for real.
Each week in the Trends Journal for hundreds of weeks, we put jobs with the job losses.
It's phenomenal.
It's one company after another laying off people.
And it goes back to where the economy is going.
You're looking now at holiday hiring is at a low.
And you look at the Consumer Confidence Index that just came out.
It was almost at an all-time low.
And it goes back to the election of this kid winning.
And again, the people are very desperate.
They're going broke.
And by the way, Oxfam came out with an article on November 3rd that in the United States, the 10 richest billionaires got $700 billion richer in a year.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's all about just a little bit more.
But now it's not just a little bit more, it's about a lot more.
You know, that's what John D. Rockefeller said to the reporter who asked him, How much is enough?
And he says, just a little bit more.
These people are accruing it at a very accelerating rate.
And this is really what is at the heart of the H-1B visa debacle for Trump is his arrogance that he would have a record number of H-1B visa people out there.
At the same time, that he's trashing Americans and saying Americans don't have any talent.
You can't train Americans to do this kind of stuff.
What's he bringing people in for in his organization?
To do groundskeeping work, to do housekeeping, to work in the kitchen.
He's just bringing in slave wages, is all he's doing.
My book, International Bestseller, Trent Hacker, 1996, I write about the H-1B visas.
This is the beginning of the internet revolution.
They didn't want to pay people a lot of dough.
Lick Willie Clinton created the H-1B visa scam to bring in cheap Chinese and Indian labor to do the to work.
And this is, I'm telling you, the facts are right here.
Yeah.
Nobody ever heard of an H-1B visa before.
And again, we only put the facts in there.
You're talking about cheap labor.
The reason you used to go to a Marshall's, go to a Target, go to a Home Depot, go to a Lowe's, outside in front of every place, help wanted, full-time, part-time.
They were letting all this cheap labor come in so they couldn't have to pay them anything because you can't earn a living working at these places.
That's why they let all that cheap labor come in over the years, particularly under the Biden administration.
They wanted cheap labor.
End of story.
And now, again, as I said, okay, you let them come in, and now you're throwing them out, which is ice crap.
You know, leave the people alone.
You let them come in here because you wanted cheap labor, and now you're throwing them out, and you're selling the line that they're all drug dealers.
Well, let me ask you, what you think is behind that?
Because I look at that, and I think that, you know, the way this, if you want to get rid of people, there's certain things that you could do that would not be quite so confrontational in the face, right?
Even pepper spraying a baby.
And so, you know, there's ways that you could do this.
I think this is deliberate.
I don't think it's just stupid.
I think it's deliberate.
I think they want to have division and chaos and civil war.
What do you think about that?
Is that why we're seeing these kind of high-tech government's in control?
It's a dictator state.
That's right.
I think it's about intimidation.
Yeah.
I mean, guys with masks on, again, what they're doing.
There's America.
You got this mask on.
You're doing this to innocent people?
Again, you let them come in here.
Leave them the hell alone.
You know, you let them come in.
You wanted cheap labor.
So leave them alone.
If you don't want anybody else to come in, fine.
Yeah.
That's right.
But what are you doing this to these people for?
It's terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah, you brought them in for economic reasons, and you could get them out economically as well.
You don't need to go through these goons going down the street unless you want to have this kind of confrontation, unless you want to militarize the police and federalize the police.
And I think that's exactly what they want to do.
Yeah, it seems like it all goes back to Bill Clinton.
You're just talking about a telecom thing where he does a massive consolidation of telecommunications companies.
And of course, he also consolidated the banks.
I remember when that happened, they approved that big bank merger of Nations Bank and Bank of America in California, Nations Bank and North Carolina.
And everybody said, you're going to set off a wave of bank mergers and you're going to wind up with a half a dozen banks.
And sure enough, we did.
And about a decade later, we have the too big to fail banks that were bailed out by the government.
So he consolidated telecommunications.
He consolidated the banks.
He lays the foundation for H-1B visas.
I mean, and then you find that, you know, Trump and Biden and Obama all continue his policies.
Trump continues the Clinton policies with all this stuff.
And by the way, going back to with the banks, it was a little slime ball that everybody liked, little Jimmy Carter.
He was the guy that started the movement for the banks to get bigger.
Back in the day, there were only trust state banks.
Bank of America, that was only in California.
We used to have all local banks.
All the cities had local banks.
All gone.
It was Bill Clinton that pushed that through, that allowed interstate banking.
That's right.
Before we didn't have it.
And when you look at the next wave of consolidations, as you point out many times, you've got a lot of banks that have a lot of risk and jeopardy involved in this commercial real estate thing.
We've pointed that out now for quite some time.
And it seems to me like the next wave of this stuff, they're looking at the stable coins.
I want to get your take on stable coins.
I think there are two different things are happening with it.
Number one, I look at it, and it seems to me like they're going to use stablecoins as a way to sell their treasury bills when they can't sell them to other central banks and other governments because they don't like the American hegemony.
So if they package the stable coins and fill them up with these bonds, then they can essentially sell the bonds at retail level.
I think that's one aspect of it.
Eric Trump has said at some of these crypto conferences that stablecoins are going to get rid of all banks within a decade.
And so it seems to me like that is also a part of it.
What do you think about stablecoins?
And what people do.
I think Orwell couldn't have come up with a better name.
I said, I think what they're really talking about, when they tie it to the dollar and call it a stablecoin, I said, maybe they mean it in a different kind of stable.
Maybe they mean it like, you know, a horse stable.
And maybe what they're throwing this thing up is the stuff that's on the bottom on the floor of the horse stable, right?
It's really what they're having backwards.
It goes back to when we talk about AI.
Everything's going to become digital.
They're going to make up anything they can, CBDC, central bank digital currencies.
They're going to do everything they can to try to get rid of the debt level.
And when you look at the real debt level, it's not $38 trillion.
It's well over $100 trillion when you put Social Security, other government expenditures in there.
There's no way.
So they're going to make up this stablecoin crap.
They're going to make up CBDCs.
And not only the United States, all over the world.
It's the future.
And again, and you're talking about Trump's kid at the crypto thing.
You know, cryptocurrencies now, Bitcoin is now, I think it's around about $96,000 now.
And it's gone down from $124,000 a coin.
And will it go down further?
And again, we look at things for the way they are.
Let's go back to Trump back in 2020, 2021, making fun of Bitcoin, saying how terrible it was, and it was destroying the dollar.
But now that he's into it, his kids are into it, that Luttnick clown's kids are into it, Witcoff's kids are into it.
And Trump got $100 million from the crypto people when he ran for office in 2024, and tens of millions of dollars from them when he got his inauguration.
They're going to do everything they can to keep propping up the cryptos because they're invested in it.
And they're only concerned about themselves.
So that's the way we see it.
There's a lot of negativity now coming out in the crypto world about that cryptocurrencies could Bitcoin could even go back down to the $37,000, a coin level.
Really?
Yeah, a lot of people have been saying that they saw the crypto stuff as being a pump and dump, and that these people get their money out of it and then dump it for the rest of us.
Do you think that's what's going to happen with it?
That it might go back down into the.
Again, as I said, with the Trump people into it, I think they're going to do everything they can to prop it up.
That's my guess.
It's a guess.
So you think they'll blow the bubble up a little bit more and then they'll spend that.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's probably true.
Yeah, they're making a lot of money off of the crypto stuff.
And it was the expectations about what Trump is going to do to support crypto because the moves that he made just prior to the election, that after he got elected, crypto soared.
And remember a year ago we were talking about how gold had dropped.
Actually, I did a commercial about how now was the time because gold was on sale.
And because the fundamentals that had driven gold up had not changed, but everybody was expecting that everybody's going to put their money into Bitcoin and other crypto stuff because Trump was jumping into it.
But I think really, when you look at it, it's been kind of interesting to see the moves with Bitcoin and not really moving counter to the markets like gold typically does.
Again, very important with gold.
Again, gold prices are going down because they say interest rates are going to stay high.
And also profit-taking, too, don't you think?
Absolutely.
Because we're getting towards the end of the year and that type of thing.
Absolutely.
And let's not forget, too, let's go back to 2019, not ancient history.
JPMorgan Chase was fined $900 million for rigging the precious metals market.
So they're going to do everything they can to rig the game.
But here's the deal.
Let's look at oil prices.
And yesterday, I didn't look at them this morning.
It was around $63 a barrel.
Last year at this time, it was about $20 a barrel higher.
The reason oil prices are so low is because demand is so low, and there's more supply than demand.
There's a global slowdown.
When the equity markets crash, that's when reality hits Main Street.
They ignore there's no connection between Wall Street and Main Street.
Again, look at the SP 500.
According to, so it's not my quote, according to some of the reports coming out, Vanguard, State Street, and BlackRock own over 80% of the SP 500.
All right?
Yeah.
There's going to be a crash.
There's no relationship between Main Street and Wall Street.
Again, by the facts, nearly 50% of all the money spent in retail spending in the United States comes from the top 10%.
10% account for 50% of all the money being spent in the country.
There's no relationship between Wall Street and Main Street.
It becomes a reality of how bad things are when the markets crash.
And when these markets crash, you're going to see gold prices spike well above $5,000 an ounce.
That's our forecast.
And silver following.
And going back to how bad it is, back in the day, the average age for first-time homebuyers was 28 years old.
You know what it is today?
40.
Yeah, I saw 40, yeah, 40, about 40.
And you know, I looked up because of this 50-year mortgage BS that is like property taxes.
You know, you never get, and you only work for 43 years, a typical person does, right?
Assuming that you can keep your job.
Most people typically work for 43 years.
How do you get a 50-minute mortgage ever even paid off like that?
Again, you're looking at the average age now of first-time homebuyers at 40 years old.
So you'll be 90 years old when you pay it off.
And the average age death in the United States is 78 years old.
Yeah.
They've got to figure it out, don't they?
It sounds like Social Security, you know, how they picked the retirement age of 65.
That was just beyond life expectancy in Germany when Bismarck did that.
And so that's how they figure 50 years for a mortgage.
Let's go beyond life expectancy and make sure nobody ever gets their mortgages paid off.
They're always indebted to the banks.
It's just criminal what they're able to do, isn't it?
You know, what you're talking about.
Yep.
What you're talking about with the $5,000 gold when this stuff crashes, Jamie Demon came out and said that, you know, J.P. Morgan, he said, I'm not going to buy gold.
I'm not in that.
I don't care about gold.
But he said, I think it's going to go between $5,000 and $10,000.
So you're on the conservative end, considering what Jamie Demon did.
And he wasn't trying to pump it up because he wanted to sell gold.
He wasn't going to sell it.
He wasn't going to buy it.
But he thought $5,000 to $10,000 when all this stuff crashes.
I mean, it really does look like we're on track for a global depression and global war, doesn't it?
Because this is, again, a fourth turning.
This happens about every 80 years.
And the entire world is on the same cycle now and has been since the last fourth turning.
But there were a lot of countries that were on the same cycle going back to the Civil War.
I've mentioned it many times.
You know, the fact that there was a Civil War in Italy, 1861, 1865, it wasn't out about slavery.
It was about the same thing that our Civil War was about, which was about the transition from a more decentralized agrarian state to a centralized industrial state and creating a nation-state from these decentralized power sources or the centralized centers of power that they had under agrarianism in Italy.
Same thing happened here.
That was really the driving force.
But now everybody is on the same cycle.
And so they know that this is happening.
And that's one of the reasons why you're seeing everybody gearing up for war in Europe, isn't it?
Yep.
Look at the money.
Look at that little slime ball.
That's the Chancellor of Germany.
Yeah.
Mertz.
Look at one of the covers of the Transjournal magazine.
Heil Mertz.
We're going to spend a trillion dollars to build up our defense.
We have to stop those Russians.
We only killed 25 million of them in World War II with Operation Barbarossa.
Oh, you like Germany's First World War?
Now you like their Second World War.
Germany, the third largest economy in the world, the largest in Europe.
They're in a recession for two years.
Yeah.
And now slime ball Mertz come out.
We won't be in a recession this year.
Our economy will grow 0.2%.
Yeah, and of course they're doing it to themselves.
They're deindustrializing, maybe not as quickly as the UK is, but they're doing the same thing.
I got to make this 1,000% clear.
They all destroyed themselves when they brought manufacturing to China after they got into the World Trade Organization in 2001.
Yes, that's right.
The Western manufacturers gave China all the high-tech and heavy industry manufacturing they never had.
Let's go back.
You're talking about Germany's economy.
Let's go back between around 2001 when they first came into the, when they first started going over there, to about 2015.
Look at the automobile sales.
Ford, GM, Volkswagen, BMW, Porsche, skyrocketing, skyrocketing in China the first 10, 12 years.
And then all of a sudden, China gets all the heavy industry and high-tech manufacturing that they never had before, and we don't need you anymore.
And isn't it interesting the timing you mentioned about 2015?
What else happened in 2015?
The Paris Climate Accord.
And what they did then, after they'd gotten their heavy industry in place, then what they did was they gave them essentially a monopoly on cheap affordable energy, making it extremely expensive for German companies and British companies to be able to afford energy, even if they didn't shut them down because of emissions.
They still couldn't compete because their energy was so expensive compared to China.
And let's look now, who's the biggest EV seller in the world?
BYD.
Yeah.
Chinese company.
Boy, they laid this thing out like a plan, didn't they?
I mean, it's just like clockwork.
You know, let's get all the ducks in a row.
The greedy companies of the West went to China to get their cheap labor.
End of story.
They were booming.
These companies were booming.
China's economy is going way up, and they're selling all their products over there that the Chinese never had.
Look at what happened with luxury sales.
It boomed because the Chinese were buying all this stuff.
And then China started the COVID war on Chinese Lunar New Year, the year of a rat, in January 2020, and everything changed.
And China, by the way, destroyed their own economy.
China has a housing crisis, the likes of which never seen in modern history.
There are an estimated 90 million vacant apartments.
Wow.
Wow.
90 million.
You know, Gerald, I've seen a couple of videos on YouTube.
Unbelievably large mansions.
I mean, you're talking about mansions in the United States.
Nothing compared to these that they built.
And they've set vacant for so long, it's like they built these things out in the middle of the jungle because the neighborhoods have grown up.
They basically rewilded the whole area out of neglect.
Nobody can buy these things.
They built these massive mansions.
You talk about a malinvestment of the government and central planners and that type of thing.
But yeah, it truly is amazing.
And when you look at Fred Mertz and all these guys, their response is they're not going to fix any of the issues that are hurting German industry.
Instead, they're just going to go to war.
I always laugh when I hear his name because he had a Fred Mertz and I love Lucy, right?
Except I think in this particular case, this particular Fred Mertz, he loves losing.
That's what he is setting up to do.
He's going to have them lose all their industry.
They'll probably lose the war as well.
Again, when you mentioned the fourth turning, this will be the last turning.
It was this cat by the name of Albert Einstein, who knew a little thing or two about the atomic bomb.
And they asked him what kind of weapons will be used to fight the Third World War.
He said, I don't know, but they'll be using sticks and stones to fight the fourth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do you think about Trump?
You know, so Putin has done tests of delivery vehicles.
In other words, they got their hypersonic missiles and they have this nuclear-powered cruise missile that can stay aloft for a very, very long time.
But that's a delivery mechanism.
They weren't testing nuclear warheads.
They weren't exploding nuclear bombs.
And Trump kind of stupidly conflates these two things.
I guess to basically rattle his saber and say, we got big bombs and we're going to show you how big our bombs are.
You know, again, escalating this towards nuclear war.
Yep.
What do you think about that?
By the way, this other thing that's really big is these Epstein files and the stuff coming out about one, this woman who works for Goldman Sachs.
There's a whole article that came out just today about how she used to go back and forth with Epstein and making fun of Trump.
He was losing his mind.
Yeah.
Words to that effect.
And that's back then.
Yeah.
So he's out of his mind right in front of your eyes.
I mean, I, and these Epstein files, you know, why are you holding them back?
Why don't you, what's the big deal over here?
Put them out there.
We got to vote on this stuff.
Put them out there.
Again, you think, you know, you think that, again, Bill Clinton, didn't he pardon Epstein at one time?
I don't think so.
I think that they got him that sweetheart deal.
And it was people that were all around the Trump inner circle, right?
You had the guy, Alex Acosta, who was the so-called prosecutor who gave him the sweetheart deal.
And, you know, you had Ken Starr, who had given, who had gotten Bill Clinton off, you know, as a special prosecutor.
And so he was a defense attorney for Epstein.
And you had Alan Dershowitz, who now loves Trump because of Israel.
And so, you know, the three of them made sure that he didn't really have anything happen to him.
But, you know, when I look at it, I was saying earlier today I was talking about, spent like an hour talking about the Epstein stuff.
And my take on it, Gerald, is when you look at how they have basically humiliated and shamed themselves in public by trying to keep this covered up.
And I say the GOP has become guarding our pedophiles when they do all that stuff and they own it.
Why would they go so far with all this?
Even Trump, you know, you could say, well, Trump is pushing him to do it and he's personally involved.
But I think, you know, even could Trump even be that stupid if he wasn't trying to cover up for Mossad?
Because there's been a lot of documentation about how Jeffrey Epstein was working with Mossad and not just with these blackmail rings, but also as a representative in Mongolia and some other places, Ivory Coast.
And, you know, he was intimately involved with Mossad and Israel, working with them.
I think a lot of this is to cover up for Mossad and maybe even the CIA that's involved in a lot of this.
You're probably right.
Yeah.
You're probably right.
That's a real dark underbelly.
And again, that Epstein killed himself.
What a bunch of crap that to me was.
Yeah.
It killed him.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cameras went off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, it's really been a litmus test for all these people in the Republican Party and the Trump administration, I think, just showing what absurd links and how they will humiliate themselves in public in order to cover this up.
You know, you see Bongino and you see Bondi and you see Cash.
All these people, they have just absolutely humiliated themselves in public trying to keep this stuff covered.
But I think that that is a part of it.
I mean, we look at that.
What I was talking about today, you know, the H-1B stuff as well as the Epstein stuff, that really is kind of a one-two punch in the face for the MAGA people, I think.
Maybe they'll finally wake up and realize who this guy is that they support.
I don't know.
Nah, people don't wake up.
They believe, again, every time I start trying to talk about what happened with the New York mayoral election, right away the person I start talking to says how much they hate the guy.
I don't want to hear this.
I want to tell you why he won and why you have to look at the facts to see where things are going.
And I'm telling you, this election is historic.
And by the way, another important thing is when people say, well, I can't do anything.
What do you mean you can't do anything?
You just saw a little boy of nobody become, you know, win the mayoral race in New York City.
We're not talking about, you know, Columbus, Ohio here.
So don't tell me you can't do anything.
That's right.
You just saw somebody from nowhere become the mayor in New York City.
So do something.
Stop saying you can't do anything.
I'm tired of that crap.
And one of the things that he did was he attacked the status quo, right?
He broke the prohibitions about saying this or that.
And everybody else there was going to counter, oh, I will go to Israel.
It's like, how is that part of the job description of being a mayor of a city to go to a foreign country?
It just doesn't make any sense.
So he broke those, he went against the system, head-on against the system.
And I think that's the key thing.
People want to try to triangulate this and walk on eggshells.
They don't want to offend anybody.
And I think it's more important to be authentic.
Of course it is.
But again, it shows you the power of the people.
That this guy of nobody from nowhere that nobody ever heard of, whose name you could hardly pronounce, was born in Uganda, becomes the mayor of New York City.
And by the way, I have six Jewish friends.
Five of them were pro-Mandani.
Really?
Yep.
Well, like I said, I had those couple of clips of that.
And one of them is an Israeli.
I was saying, I had those clips, and a lot of, you know, I thought, well, you know, these people are very articulate, and they make the point.
I don't know how representative they are of that.
But, you know, in your circle of friends, maybe that is representative of what the people are seeing there.
Well, it's just like if you're an American and you hate the Vietnam War, the Iraq War, the Afghan war, and this is what they're doing to the Palestinian people.
It's a crime in front of everyone.
Oh, they just killed another young kid.
He crossed over the yellow line.
Yeah.
Yellow line?
Well, you're making up this yellow line crap.
Oh, you're going to steal more territory?
I forgot.
That's right.
Well, I mean, just look at this week.
You know, what a slap in the face to everybody to have on Veterans Day to bring in this al-Qaeda flak, ISIS, Al-Nusra, all the rest of the stuff.
And we know because I showed the pictures of it at the final stages of the Syrian war, how we had U.S. air support with A-10 warthogs as they were winning, pushing out Assad.
And here's this guy.
He's killing all these different minority groups.
He's killing Christians.
And Trump is out there saying, oh, I really care about Nigeria.
We might have to come in with guns ablazing and all the rest of the stuff.
And then he completely does a 180, and he brings in this guy who's killing Christians left and right.
And the whole war on terror is just shown to be a fraud when he brings this guy in.
It's absolutely amazing how this Potempkin village is really crashing, in my opinion.
Well, let's go back.
Remember the Nobel Peace of Crap Prize winner, Barack Obama?
I want that guy Qaddafi out of there.
I want that guy Assad out of there.
Oh, you destroyed Libya, the richest city in Africa, where people had more rights and benefits than most of the world.
Oh, and Syria.
It used to be a great tourism place.
So going to the ancient not anymore, all gone, brought to you by again.
It's a crime syndicate.
They're murderers and thieves.
I'm going back to Obama.
Remember when the dot-com bust happened?
The Panic of 08, the domain name I took out in 2007, with it, according to the Levy Institute of Bard College, $29 trillion to bail out the banks.
29 trillion as people lose their homes and go bust.
Yeah.
And I remember when that was happening, you know, it was before Drudge, you know, because of Trump flipped over to the Democrats sign everything.
But he was talking about every year, at the end of the year, he would say how many small, medium-sized banks went out of business that year.
And every year, it was between 150 and 200 going out of business after they bailed out the big guys.
Yeah.
Every year.
Yeah.
Again, it's the rich have taken over everything.
You're going to see it off with their heads 2.0.
It's coming soon.
I agree.
I agree.
I think so.
Well, before we end the program, I want to thank some people.
I want to thank Radisbro.
Thank you very much for the tip.
He said, I learned, as Trump was saying, you can't take people off an assembly line off of the welfare line and teach them how to make a battery.
He said, I learned how to make a battery in kindergarten with a potato or a lemon.
They call the Baghdad battery.
And of course, I think maybe some of the people who are making batteries, maybe they need to learn how to make batteries because they're catching fire at a regular rate.
And also, Jersey Boys, thank you for the tip.
He says, ask Gerald if he's ever heard of Bill Cooper, William Cooper, who wrote, Behold a Pale Horse before.
And do you think that the states declaring secession will happen?
What do you think about that?
You know, we talked about how this is kind of a provocation, you know, what Trump is doing.
Do you think there'll be secession?
I had a very dear friend, may rest in peace, Thomas Naylor.
And he started the Second Vermont Republic to break away secession.
And it was moving very, very, very strongly.
And then Obama got elected and it died down and then he passed away.
But yeah, I think there's going to be more and more movements for secession.
I really do.
In different states.
You know, I started my program back in 2017.
My very first guest was somebody from California who, because Trump was president, was pushing to have secession.
And because they were from the left, they wanted California to secede.
And I said, I'm always for self-government and secession because at heart, that is what America was always about.
Self-government.
Yeah, that's right.
So I said, what can I do to help you?
So we'll see what happens.
That's what it was all about.
It was about unionization.
That's right.
Well, that's it for our program.
Thank you so much for joining us, Gerald.
Always a pleasure to have you on.
Thank you for the insights.
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