The David Knight Show - Wed Episode #2137: The 50-Year Mortgage: How Ultra-Long Loans Destroy The American Dream

Nov. 12, 2025 - The David Knight Show

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Wed Episode #2137: The 50-Year Mortgage: How Ultra-Long Loans Destroy The American Dream

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	In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
	It's the David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Wednesday, the 12th of November, year of our Lord 2025.
	Well, yesterday was Veterans Day, and Donald Trump decided to celebrate it with an al-Qaeda terrorist that the Pentagon installed as the leader of Syria.
	Talk about fake virtue signaling saying that he was worried about Christian persecution in Nigeria.
	He hasn't done anything about that, but of course, he could do something about Syria since this guy is now working for him.
	Isn't that interesting?
	I wonder, at what point did Al-Qaeda start working for the CIA, the Pentagon?
	From its inception, folks, they keep changing the name and they think you're that stupid.
	We're going to start with that.
	And with Trump's amazing dismissal of American workers and American students, putting in China 600,000 students in schools, universities, a record amount.
	And of course, he's got to do it to support the universities that are the seminaries of socialism and Satanism.
	We'll be right back.
	Well, welcome back.
	And we were gone yesterday.
	If you heard at the beginning, we had a rebroadcast, and Travis, who's joining us from Austin, pointed out that Karen's twin brother died unexpectedly over the weekend.
	And we're all still adjusting to that, a lot of things to do.
	And he was a big part of the show, actually.
	So yeah, he did the gas gauge.
	There's Keith.
	Uncle Keith was a big part of the show and a really big part of our lives.
	He lived close to us for my entire life, so it's been really hard.
	Yeah, he died doing what he liked to do, painting.
	There was a picture of him painting, and they found him at his desk painting.
	And they're really shocked because he's in such healthy condition, never had any issues.
	He had one bout of sickness about five years ago that was, they diagnosed it as vasculitis, but that was the only indication of it.
	And for the past few years, he got over it.
	He'd been perfectly healthy, and there wasn't a single issue recently.
	He seemed healthy and strong.
	Yes.
	There was no warning.
	There was nothing that even gave us pause for concern or made us think, well, maybe something is up.
	And you can see from the picture there, why, On my first date, he had come down to Florida to see Karen from New York.
	And she was so excited when she got back to the dorm, and he was waiting for her there.
	And I thought, well, I haven't got a chance.
	She's really attached to this guy.
	And I watched for a while, then I just left.
	But she came out and said, that's my twin brother.
	And I was like, yeah, right.
	They look at all like each other.
	Praternal twins.
	She had other brothers, has other brothers that do look a lot like her.
	But, well, let's get into the news and get this together here.
	We had an interview that Laura Ingram did with Trump, which was finally not just pure sycophancy.
	And I kind of thought that it was going to be, you know, because that's what we have seen from everybody, Fox News especially.
	I kind of thought that was what it was going to be because there was a tease for it before it happened, which was him taking her to the Oval Office and showing her all the gold in his Oval Office.
	One thing with gold?
	Why not?
	You can't imitate gold, real gold.
	There's no paint that imitates gold.
	So these aren't like from Home Depot or no, this is not Home Depot stuff.
	No, not stuff you buy.
	This is not Home Depot.
	Yeah, only the best for Trump and his castles.
	And so, you know, look at that and how disgusting that is.
	And of course, there was also the fact that she, it's not just that, that was an older clip, I believe, but there was the fact that she was also talking about how he went out to eat, and of course now D.C. is safe.
	Yeah, it is safe.
	If you've got an army of Secret Service guys, you know, with Pack and Heat that are standing around you, they're going to leave you alone.
	Fox News Alert, Donald Trump is out on the town, dinner with members of his cash.
	He's out on the city.
	After deploying the National Guard, crime, as we know, has plummeted in the city.
	But President Trump talked to reporters just a few moments ago.
	So who are all those people around him?
	Yeah, I want to.
	The city is so safe.
	Look at all his bodyguards.
	Yeah, those can be some of the most dangerous people in Washington if you look at them the wrong way.
	So maybe he's safe, but nobody else is, right?
	Because he's got his bodyguards there.
	So imagine just about any place is a lot safer when you have the capability to theoretically nuke who might come after you, you know?
	Yeah.
	He stole my wallet.
	So they go into the Oval Office, and he's got his new palace filled with gold embellishments.
	She asked him at one point about how they have decided to make housing affordable again.
	You know, we have seen as the government has added mandates and regulations that have driven the costs of cars through the ceiling.
	Now they've done the same thing, of course, with housing.
	And his solution is a 50-year mortgage.
	Isn't that nice?
	You know, I guess, why don't you just make it 49 and call it the year of Jubilee, right?
	You know what?
	Why not just say you get the house, but you have to pay on it forever?
	You know, why are you going to sign a term limit?
	Just say, you know what?
	You get the house, but you're going to pay us perpetually.
	And if your children decide to live in this house, they'll pay us perpetually.
	Yeah.
	Just make it like the property taxes.
	You'd get the cost down way low if we did that, I bet.
	You get your mortgage paid off.
	A 50-year mortgage is essentially paying it forever.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	The new serfdom.
	Yeah.
	As a matter of fact, the average age right now of a first-time homebuyer is 40.
	So that means that you'd be 90 at the point which you get your house paid off.
	How long does the average worker work, by the way?
	I looked that up.
	The average worker works for 43 years.
	So this would go seven years into your retirement.
	You think you're going to be able to make that payment?
	Or is the government going to take it back?
	The bank, I should say.
	Hard to distinguish between the two of these.
	Anyway, yeah, they may take it back, or maybe you'll do a negative mortgage and lose all your equity so that you don't ever own anything.
	Doesn't that work out nice?
	Doesn't that?
	I heard that somewhere.
	You'll own nothing and you'll be happier.
	You'll be happier because you're in a house.
	You're paying a mortgage to the bank.
	The bank is happier and you will never own that.
	You're going to continue to pay it forever, just like your property taxes that never end.
	So they talked about that a little bit here.
	Quick question, though, because your housing director has proposed something that has enraged your MAGA friends, which is this 50-year mortgage idea.
	So a significant MAGA backlash, calling it a giveaway to the banks and simply prolonging the time it would take for Americans to own a home outright.
	Is that really a good idea?
	It's not even a big deal.
	I mean, you know, you go from 40 to 50 years, and what mortgages you pay, you pay $50.
	He doesn't even know.
	From 30, some people had a 50.
	What a standard mortgage is.
	They have a 50.
	All it means is you pay less per month.
	You pay it over a longer period of time.
	It's not like a big factor.
	It might help a little bit.
	But the problem was that Biden did this.
	He increased the interest rates.
	And I have a lousy Fed person who's going to be gone in a few months, fortunately.
	I have a guy too late.
	You know, Jerome Powell, we call him too late.
	He was too late in everything, except when it came to before the, you know, the Democrat, so-called Democrat election, which didn't work.
	But we're going to get interest rates down.
	But even with interest rates up, the economy is the strongest it's ever been.
	You know, you asked me, just to go back to the beginning of your question, you talked about presses.
	We're down on energy.
	We're down on interest rate.
	You know, interest rates are down.
	You're not down on energy.
	Energy rates are up tremendously.
	He doesn't know anything he's talking about, or if he does know anything, he's lying to your face.
	He's telling you what he wants it to be.
	And the people believe him.
	Just amazing to me.
	This is a guy.
	He doesn't even know the standard home loan is 30 years because he's probably never had a standard home loan.
	His daddy gave him hotels.
	He does deals with the banks over casinos and things like that.
	When it comes to homes, he pays cash, right?
	He doesn't go grocery shopping.
	His butlers and maids do that for him.
	I'm disgusted with people like that.
	Remember when we had George W. Bush?
	He didn't know what a grocery store scanner was?
	Neither would this guy, by the way.
	Yet he thinks that it's all Jerome Powell's fault, that he didn't lower interest rates enough.
	Well, here's the thing.
	Why is it that when Powell has lowered interest rates in the past, we have seen home mortgage rates stay about the same, sometimes go up?
	Well, it's because he can't control and won't control, is not interested in controlling the spending.
	He doesn't care what the government's debt is.
	And that's the deficit that he doesn't care about.
	You know, he worries all the time about the trade deficit, but he doesn't worry about the monetary deficit of the government that he directly controls.
	And it's that $38 trillion time bomb that he keeps pouring money into that bomb that's about to burst over our heads.
	That's what's causing the disconnect between the Federal Reserve and its interest rate manipulations and being able to take down the home mortgages.
	Because people are looking at that massive debt and saying that's inflationary and it's going to cause all kinds of economic unrest.
	And I'm not going to, if you're going to continue to try to monetize the debt and you're not going to control spending, then the interest rates on medium and long-term loans are going to go up.
	And he doesn't even know that because it's a guy that bankrupted a half a dozen casinos.
	He's a lucky loser.
	It's not even a big deal.
	He said, you go from 40 to 50 years.
	No, you don't.
	She corrected him, said 30, but he just ignored that.
	And then started talking about how it was somebody else's problem, not his.
	It was Jerome Powell's problem.
	So she pushed him and said, why are people saying that they're anxious about the economy if everything is down?
	Because everything is not down.
	You know, some grocery prices are down.
	Some are up.
	Overall, they're up about 3 to 5%.
	And the energy costs are soaring because of his technocrat buddies and their AI data centers.
	And also because of the green New Deal stuff.
	That's the other thing.
	They play this blame game, the Democrats and Republicans.
	The Republicans say, it's all the green stuff.
	And they're right.
	It is the green stuff.
	And now they're going to pour gasoline on that Democrat fire that they have set on our energy infrastructure.
	The Republicans are going to throw gasoline on that with the AI data centers.
	You know, they're both right.
	The Democrats say it's the AI data centers that you guys want to put in.
	And the Republicans say it's the green mandates that are out there.
	They're both right.
	And they're both killing us.
	And neither one of them are going to acknowledge or pull back on either one of these two prongs of this dilemma that are destroying this country and going to destroy it.
	So Trump said, I don't know why they're saying that the economy is not good.
	I think the polls are fake.
	We have a great economy, the greatest economy we've ever had.
	Folks, it's nothing but ballroom capitalism.
	He's going in there gilding all of the stats and the polls and the lies that he tells you.
	Ingram asked Trump if he felt voters had the wrong perception of his repeated claims of strong economic growth or if the GOP needed to do more to convince them.
	Trump reverted to form, noting, more than anything else, it's a con job by the Democrats because costs are way down.
	Yeah, just lie about it when all else fails.
	She also addressed Trump's true social post where he offered a $10,000 bonus for air traffic controllers who've continued to work during the government shutdown.
	Here again, it says reward punishment stuff.
	You know, maybe you ought to address the actual problem, which is that the government should not be running air traffic control.
	That ought to be something that is paid for by the airlines and by ticket fees, rather than having the government involved in that at all.
	There's a lot of countries that do that, and we don't wise up.
	So they'll never do anything to fix the core problems.
	They'll just blame the other political party for it.
	And then he wants to reward and punish those people.
	So he's still not going to fix it.
	Still no solution.
	And even after they come back to work, they're still short of air traffic controllers because who wants to work for a government like this that's constantly putting them through the ringer?
	Of course, the last time this happened, and what was the previous record for a shutdown, was during Trump's first administration.
	And again, it was the chaos in air travel that brought that to a quick close.
	It has a lot to do with it now.
	So he just decides that he's going to hand out $10,000 bonuses to people who didn't take time off to support their family.
	Trump then claimed he was not happy when he saw people refusing to do unpaid work during the shutdown.
	He said, look, life is not so easy for anybody, except for him.
	Except for him.
	Not everybody's daddy hands them a fortune like Trump's daddy did.
	So he's never had to take a second job so he could eat.
	He says, look, life is not so easy for anybody.
	We should have had people, should not have had people leaving their jobs.
	Well, I basically said that the ones that stayed there, and there were a lot of them, I'm sending them a $10,000 bonus.
	Well, why don't you give a bonus to the people in the military that you told to go get food at German food banks because the empire can't feed its own troops.
	Pathetic.
	She said, well, where is that money coming from?
	You're going to hand them all $10,000 bonuses?
	Where's that money coming from?
	He says, I don't know.
	I'll get it someplace.
	I always get the money from someplace, regardless.
	It doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	Because he will rob Peter to pay Paul.
	He will go into debt trillions of dollars at a time.
	He set our debt bomb on a completely new slope when he did the phony pandemic lockdown and stimulus checks and all the rest of stuff.
	And Biden kept it up.
	And same rate of increase.
	And he's going to keep it up or accelerate it, setting a new precedent, this second term here.
	So then moved to Ingram signing a CNN report on China, expanding their missile facilities.
	She said, China is not our friend, sir.
	They want to mess around with us.
	I can tell you that, he said.
	There you go.
	So then they sparred on foreign relations with Ingram saying that the Chinese spy on us.
	They steal our intellectual property.
	Trump argued, do you think the French are better?
	After Ingram said she did, Trump replied, well, I'm not so sure.
	French.
	Why would you talk about France?
	What about Israel?
	Do they spy on us?
	Do they steal our technology while we give them money?
	Ingram told Trump a lot of MAGA folks are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of thousands of foreign students in the U.S.
	She mentioned Trump's figure of as many as 600,000 Chinese students in America.
	Let's play that clip for you.
	You've said as many as 600,000 Chinese students could come to the United States.
	Why, sir, is that a pro-MAGA position when so many American kids want to go to school and there are places not for them and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money.
	Sure.
	Never said about China, but we do have a lot of people coming in from China.
	We always have China and other countries.
	We also have a massive system of colleges and universities.
	And if we were to cut that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you would have half the colleges in the United States go out of business.
	For what?
	Well, I think that's a big deal.
	Are they fans of the business?
	Fans of the United States.
	Yeah, but you would have, as you know, historically, black colleges and universities would all be out of business.
	Because that's where all the Chinese go to study, right?
	And universities would go into the country.
	You're putting it on China to keep our university system going.
	I think it's good to have to have outside countries.
	Look, I want to be able to get along with the world.
	They're not the French.
	They're the Chinese.
	They spy on us.
	They steal our intellectual property.
	Well, do you think the French are better?
	Yeah.
	Really?
	I don't know.
	I'll tell you, I'm not so sure.
	We've had a lot of problems with the French, where we get taxed very unfairly on our technology, where, you know, they put 25% taxes on American products.
	Look, assuming everyone treats us badly, because that's the way I am, but we take in trillions of dollars from students.
	You know, the students pay more than double when they come in from most foreign countries.
	I want to see our school system thrive, but at the same time, I want to be, I know you and I disagree.
	We're never going to agree on that.
	That's okay.
	And it's not that I want them, but I view it as a business.
	We have millions and millions of people.
	Also, I want to get along with countries if possible.
	People are shocked.
	Yeah, he really wants to get along with China, doesn't he?
	I stopped eight wars in the last nine months.
	Liar.
	I don't want to be in wars.
	Yeah.
	That's why you're doing what you're doing in Vinny Nam, right?
	And it'll be violent.
	You know what?
	I don't want to be in wars.
	But one thing, you don't want to cut half of the people, half of the students from all over the world that are coming into our country, destroy our entire university and college system.
	I don't want to do that.
	I wouldn't listen to something.
	And don't forget, MAGA was my idea.
	MAGA was nobody else's idea.
	I know what MAGA wants better than anybody else.
	I'm going to have to stop it here.
	There's just too many lies that he's throwing out there, one after the other, that have to be addressed.
	Yeah.
	So why is that a pro-MAGA position, sir, when so many American kids want to go to school and there's no place for them?
	And these universities are getting rich off of Chinese money?
	Well, we have to do it because, you know, Americans are not important.
	The average American is totally unimportant to Trump.
	Have you figured that out yet?
	They're the people who keep voting for this guy.
	He treats them as if they're stupid.
	He could kill somebody on Fifth Avenue that still support him.
	He's saying that you're stupid.
	If you keep voting for this guy, after the things that he says, after the things that he does, you are stupid.
	If you are a triple MAGA voter, come on, wake up.
	Wake up.
	The president said, without foreign students, you'd have half the colleges in the U.S. go out of business.
	She said, so what?
	He said, well, I think that's a big deal.
	She said, I wouldn't lose any sleep.
	Neither would I. Because again, are the universities the seminal problem in our society?
	I say they are.
	They're not preparing anybody for jobs.
	These people, his friends, his backers, his supporters, his financers of his administration, are working to make your college degree useless and to put you in debt.
	It's just another way to make you a debt slave.
	And so it's not there to help you.
	It's not there to lift you up.
	And if you want a job, you need to go out and learn how to do some practical things.
	And they're working to try to stop that as well with their robots.
	And there was an exchange about that later on as well in terms of the American workers.
	He thinks you're useless eaters.
	He thinks you can't be trained.
	He's got to bring people in from other places.
	It's the same stuff we heard from Musk and Vivaik the Snake.
	Yeah, these American workers, they're garbage.
	I don't know.
	When you look at America and you look at places like India and China, why is our society the way that it is and their society is the way it is?
	And yet the people who built America can't maintain it or take it to the next level.
	We've got to get the people who built India and China.
	Take a look at those countries.
	Especially China is changing very rapidly.
	But just take a look at those countries.
	Why is it that we need the people from there to build what we built here?
	But Americans can't be trusted.
	They want to come after Americans, folks.
	Of course.
	It's been said many times, but the Chinese routinely engage in intellectual property theft.
	Oh, yeah.
	That is how they've built their economy.
	That's a key part of the China price.
	And theft of intellectual property, whether it is reverse engineering, taking your product, bringing it to China, and then just taking it apart, seeing how it works and rebuilding it, or you send your product to be built there.
	Someone over there says, oh, I bet I could make this cheaper.
	They reverse engineer it again, make it with cheaper parts and resell it.
	Or they send somebody to college here in America.
	They come work at your company for a few years.
	They steal all your ideas and send them back to China.
	This happens routinely, routinely.
	That's right.
	It's a story you hear about all the time.
	You know, what made America great?
	It's not like we're some master race of ethnic Superman or something.
	We had a government that was a referee but otherwise kept a free playing field here.
	People were free to innovate, free to build.
	That was what made America great.
	And what made China great?
	You had globalist billionaires and corporatists who decided that they were going to use China as a beta test site for their global dominance.
	And so what they did was they worked with the communist Chinese, turned them into fascists, economic fascists, where they took an ownership, corrupt fascism, where the Chinese government officials took a share of everything that was there.
	And you had to build what you were going to sell them in China.
	When people went there, they engaged in intellectual property theft.
	They violated, they stole the copyrights.
	And as they learned how to make the stuff and set up the factories, they started doing knockoffs.
	In some cases, exactly the same and undetectable pirate products.
	I remember the case of a particular brake pad company.
	And the packaging and the brake pad looked exactly identical to the American company.
	And yet it didn't have the same quality of material.
	It was almost like cardboard and people's brakes would fail.
	And then they would sue this company because they thought they were getting the genuine article when it was a cheap pirated knockoff by the Chinese.
	And so the Chinese price was based on currency manipulation, slave labor, intellectual property theft, piracy, and crony capitalism or fascism, if you will.
	And that was a system that was set up by the globalists.
	That's the kind of system that they want everywhere.
	And that's what built China's economy.
	America's economy was built on liberty and limited government.
	It isn't like we're some magic race of people.
	We're also not the worst people in the world.
	And that's the way Trump and Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy want you to think of yourself.
	And we've kind of reached a point now where buying American is almost a luxury to Americans.
	Yeah.
	Just about anything you look at, if you go to China, you can get a reasonable knockoff or not even necessarily a knockoff.
	Now, they're certainly going to make their own things for half the price or less.
	I've mentioned this before, but this is a big deal in certain markets.
	Knives, for example, is one I've used before.
	If you want to buy a high-quality American-made knife, you are going to spend hundreds of dollars.
	It is going to be hundreds of dollars.
	Or you can get a product from China that's 85, 90% of the quality and a third or a quarter of the price.
	And you have to start looking at it like, at what point am I being ridiculous?
	Am I being fiscally irresponsible to sit here and pay $300 to $400 for a product that I could get basically an identical knockout, a clone of for $30, $50?
	Yeah, you're absolutely right.
	And that is a situation that has been engineered by the China price and by the people who want to set up a world government and use China as a testbed for technocracy and a technocratic control.
	And so then Trump goes into his MAGA spiel, right?
	MAGA, he goes, that was my idea.
	It was nobody else's idea.
	Well, again, he would be lying about that.
	The first use of Make America Great Again was by Ronald Reagan, the other guy that he lied about this last week.
	That was in 1980, July 17th, 1980.
	In a speech, Reagan said, for those who have abandoned hope, because there was this general malaise under Jimmy Carter, inflation and rapidly rising energy costs and things like that.
	He said, for those who have abandoned hope, we'll restore hope and we'll welcome them into a great national crusade to make America great again.
	So Trump says that was his idea.
	No, it wasn't.
	And a previous Labor Day, he'd said, this country needs a new administration that will give that dream new life and make America great again.
	And Make America Great Again was also, it wasn't just a couple of references and a couple of speeches by Ronald Reagan.
	It was also on their campaign buttons and on their signs.
	That's why when Trump said in 2014, make America great again, I'm going to copyright that or trademark it or whatever.
	And I said, he's got to be kidding.
	Does this guy think we're born yesterday?
	I mean, that was all over the place.
	That's nothing new.
	It's nothing fantastic about that.
	As a matter of fact, it was even used by Bill Clinton.
	Bill Clinton used it multiple times.
	And then Trump claimed that he invented it, that he owned it in 2014.
	This, once again, goes to reaffirm my belief that Bill Clinton was the last Republican president.
	And that's right.
	That's right.
	Yeah, the others are warmongering Democrats, especially Trump as a Democrat socialist.
	So, you know, when you look at the gold trimmings in his office, his palace that he wants to make it, yeah, it's real gold, he said.
	Yeah, you decorate with it.
	And of course, now Lucky Lutnik is going to use real gold to try to back up his stable coins.
	You know, I thought about that.
	I thought, where did they come up with this idea of stable coin?
	Because it's, A, it's not a coin.
	It's tied to the dollar.
	So it's obviously not stable.
	And I thought, oh, maybe they're talking about horse stables.
	And maybe they're talking about the stuff that's on the ground in the horse stables.
	And I'm not talking about the hay.
	Maybe that's what the stable coins are.
	Maybe that's exactly what it is.
	I think it's not BS.
	It's the horse stuff, right?
	I remember as a kid, I heard the term cow pie, and I got very excited.
	That sounds delicious.
	That's right.
	We're dealing with the same sort of thing here.
	So Michael Flynn called him out on this as well.
	A lot of supporters were upset about Trump in terms of what he was saying about how we needed to prop up the 600,000 Chinese students.
	I don't care if there's no place for American students to go to college.
	And we need to have more colleges because, you know, they're pushing all of the things that MAGA is against.
	They're even pushing socialism.
	But especially when you look at the moral values that are being pushed by the colleges.
	Education is not what you're getting in colleges.
	You're getting indoctrination of the worst sort.
	So why would we care if half of them went out of business?
	Why would we care if they had to compete?
	They had to get better.
	And of course, the tuition that has exploded is precisely because of the Department of Education and the subsidy of tuition.
	Whenever the government subsidizes something, guess what?
	It always gets more expensive.
	And that's college tuition is one of the best examples of that axiom.
	And so Michael Flynn called him out and he said, let's not give the Chinese any more leverage than they already have.
	Maybe he can call down those sevenfold angels of light for the pagan religion that he goes around leading people in his reawakened America tours.
	So when you look at things like his Flynn's demons can fight whatever demons the Chinese have gotten contact with.
	Yeah, send the Prince of Persia over there.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, Trump's doubling down on the U.S.'s need for Chinese students may test the durability and the doublethink of his supporters and their core positions on China and national security and all the rest of the stuff.
	But look, when you look at the foreign workers that are there, we have New York City restaurants are now hiring cashiers from the Philippines who work from Zoom for $3.75 an hour.
	This is what Trump and his billionaire class want to do to Americans.
	They hate you if you're an American.
	Trump hates you.
	He thinks you're stupid because you keep voting for him when he does this kind of stuff to you.
	And he's right.
	If you vote for him, you are stupid.
	Stop supporting these people.
	So you have the MAGA supporters keep voting for him.
	And it's very much like the Democrats who voted for Moham Dani in New York, as somebody put up this meme, said the irony of voting for government grocery stores during a government shutdown.
	Yeah, you depend on them for your food supply.
	And as one of the prophets said to the government of Israel at one point in time, yeah, you want to depend on Egypt.
	You lean on it.
	You'll find that it's a cane that you're leaning on that will pierce your own hand.
	And that is true when you look to the government to support you.
	Just ask the people on food stamps and welfare.
	You're going to depend on government to feed you.
	You're going to lean on this stick that is going to pierce your own hand.
	Well, Flynn had more to say.
	He said, sorry, Mr. President, if we didn't allow 600,000 Chinese spies to steal even more intellectual property and other ideas about how to dominate our way of life, it wouldn't make a dent in U.S. colleges and universities.
	Well, I think it would.
	And the bottom line is, is that, you know, it is, again, why are we giving $9 billion to Harvard?
	I said that when Trump cut off their funds because he didn't like the free speech criticism of the government of Israel.
	And I said, why are we even, you know, so as long as they don't criticize Israel, we'll give them $9 billion?
	I guess, cut it off and leave it off.
	Just go back to only criticizing America as you have.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	He said, we simply don't need to help the Chinese anymore.
	Their plans will be the sole superpower in this century.
	As a matter of fact, when you look at the spy networks in China, they are centered around universities and other things like that.
	He said, let's not give the Chinese any more leverage than they already have.
	They've been ripping us off for years.
	Because of that, they have significant advantages over us now, and they have zero desire nor intent to make America great again.
	Well, neither does Trump.
	Look, here's the issue.
	They're following the Chinese pattern because the Chinese pattern was a beta test for us all.
	And we're becoming more and more like China.
	And it's just another illustration as to why all of this chaos, this international chaos and trade and the international economy is all absolutely nonsense and counterproductive.
	Because Trump is not interested, really, in stopping that system.
	They want to become China.
	Every president and politician has been saying this for quite some time, many of them out loud.
	And so we've had George W. Bush say, well, I wish I was like China.
	I could just tell people to do what I want to do, and they do it.
	And now Trump is doing that.
	We heard the same thing from Trudeau.
	He said, well, my favorite country, well, of course, that would be Canada.
	But my next favorite country is China.
	He couldn't think of anything too good to say about Canada, but he could think that what he loved about China was the fact that they had a dictatorship there.
	And with their dictatorship, they were going to be benevolent.
	They were going to save us all from climate change.
	And they could just do it.
	And they're not doing anything about climate change.
	They're the dirtiest, most polluting country on earth because all the manufacturing has been moved there.
	And they've given them another aspect of the China price, which is cheap energy.
	And they don't care how dirty it is.
	They don't care how polluted their cities are.
	You can see the air pollution.
	You can cut it with a knife.
	What were you going to say, Travis?
	It's just America and Canada have been very close allies for years.
	Going back at least to World War I and World War II, they worked very closely on a lot of things.
	We are neighbors.
	We share a very similar cultural heritage.
	These are people that we are very, very similar to in many, many ways.
	I like all the memes back and forth, you know, of Canadians making fun of Americans, Americans making fun of Canadians.
	But the truth is, we are very much alike.
	If there is a singular country that we should by all means objectively be allies with, it is Canada.
	We are so incredibly similar.
	But Trump can't think of a single thing like, yeah, Canada.
	Who cares?
	What's with them?
	No, China.
	Our friend is China.
	Yeah, he tries to do everything he can to divide and conquer, divide America from Canada, divide Americans against Americans.
	But of course, we're going to keep bringing in those Chinese students because it's necessary for the businesses of colleges who are ripping us off and exploiting us and polluting people's minds and destroying the spiritual and intellectual foundation of our country.
	But we've got to have those institutions.
	Well, you had a couple of people, others besides Flynn, talking about this.
	A person said, this is not what MAGA wants.
	We don't want Chinese students, spies.
	Most especially, we don't want them propping up a massive, corrupt higher education that has done so much damage to our country.
	Well, do you realize that that's what your dear leader wants?
	If you want to make America great again, you got to make, you've got to get Trump out of the White House somehow.
	As a loyal, another said, as a loyal MA and a social scientist, I wouldn't want a single Chinese student in America.
	No new students, remove those already here.
	Other MAGA people agree or disagree.
	Well, the 600,000 student visas for Chinese students is a new record.
	That's going to be done over the next two years, and it's a new record.
	And he's not going to move back away from that.
	Instead, he's going to double down on it.
	And then the most, I think, amazing thing of all that he had to say, and he was, his talking points are coming from his technocrat controllers.
	You know, we've heard the same exact thing from Musk and from Vivaik the snake Ramaswamy that Trump just endorsed for governor of Ohio.
	And so Trump was talking about how Americans don't have any talent.
	There's never going to be a country like what we have right now.
	And does that mean?
	The Republicans have to talk about it later.
	And does that mean the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your country?
	Yes, not just the students.
	Raise wages for H-1B visas.
	You can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers.
	We also do have to bring in talent.
	Oh, we have plenty of talented people.
	No, you don't.
	No, you don't.
	We don't have talented people.
	No, you don't.
	We don't have talented people.
	You don't have certain talents, and people have to learn.
	You can't take people off an unemployment, like an unemployment line and say, I'm going to put you into a factory where we're going to make missiles.
	How did we ever do it before?
	Well, let me know.
	When you and I were going to.
	I'll give you an example.
	Georgia.
	They raided because they wanted illegal immigrants out.
	They had people from from South Korea that made batteries all their lives.
	You know, making batteries are very complicated.
	It's not an easy thing, very dangerous, a lot of explosions, a lot of problems.
	They had like five or six hundred people early stages to make batteries and to teach people how to do it.
	Well, they wanted them to get out of the country.
	You're gonna need that law.
	I mean, I know you and I disagree on this.
	You can't just say uh, a country's coming in, going to invest 10 billion dollars to build a plant and gonna take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in five years and they're gonna start making missiles.
	It doesn't work that way.
	It doesn't work that way.
	You know Americans.
	You can't train Americans.
	You know what's the point of putting an American in college.
	They can't learn anything.
	They're too stupid because they vote for Trump.
	He's just looking at his voters and his loyal supporters and he thinks all Americans are that stupid.
	We're not all that stupid, you mafia figure.
	And many people posted that up and said, you know, we had housewives who went in during World War Ii and they started making planes and tanks.
	They could be trained.
	He had Rosie The Riveter, which is a a meme that maybe Trump has never seen.
	Uh, but while many conservatives would argue that admitting 600 000 Chinese students to prop up American indoctrination farms, also known as universities, goes against the America First philosophy, Trump said during his appearance that that is a Pro-maga move.
	Actually yeah, that's how um, how bad things have gotten with Trump and uh, with the manga people.
	It's amazingly stupid, isn't it?
	Well Travis, why don't you go down our comments here and let's take a look at what people have been saying?
	Let's see, let's see what i've been sent.
	I know we have some tips from Marky Mark and i'll get to those first.
	Let me find them real fast.
	All right, here we are, Marky Mark, in in in New Jersey.
	Thank you very much, Marky Mark.
	He says I wasn't advocating becoming monsters the other day.
	I was advocating for our own protection.
	Others want to harm us and our country, so we need an intel agency to find these bad actors.
	Yeah, that was.
	That was at the very end of the show and I I just came back and I said yeah, we're becoming the monsters that we fight, because when I look at it, I just got to say I understand the argument for an intelligence agency, but uh, how has that worked out for us?
	We have had the CIA and the NSA, created by this horrible president Truman, who created this whole fantasy of national security state.
	Uh, this is a guy who dropped nuclear bombs on civilians and created the national security state here in America.
	And from their inception, the CIA and the NSA were targeting Americans, spying on Americans without warrants.
	That's why we had the Church Committee hearings and the PIE Committee hearings.
	They distracted everybody by dropping a lot of information about their failed assassination attempts, their failed coups and all the rewards that they had started.
	And then they passed the Fisa Act.
	And then these very same people, these crooks, These criminals, these spies, spies are the most despicable people in a society.
	Yes, they use them during times of war.
	And yes, we are in a perpetual war.
	But you don't ever trust a spy, not even your own spies.
	And instead, what they have done is they took that law that was used to supposedly going to stop them from spying on Americans, the FISA Act, and they use it to give them legal cover to continue spying on Mr. and Mrs. Verizon and all the rest of us.
	They have started one war after the other.
	They've been engaged in assassinations and coups.
	And not all the assassinations were failed attempts, like with Castro, unfortunately.
	But when you look at their coups, they have all been failures, even if they succeeded.
	Take a look at Iran.
	We have the Ayatollahs because of the CIA.
	The CIA and the intelligence agencies ought to go.
	They have no place in a just and moral society.
	You would never have a system with these types of institutions in it, this dark government.
	You would never have that in a government that was run by our founders.
	And it is absolutely antithetical to what we want to have in our leadership and in our government.
	I remember there was a quote, and I don't have the specifics of who it was that said it, but it was very early on.
	It was either an American or British person who was part of military intelligence where they were looking at the military strength of other countries and that type of stuff and where they're positioned and where they're moving, just to be informed if we're going to be attacked, that type of intelligence.
	Not going out and creating LSD and dropping it into people's drinking water supplies and stuff like that, like the CIA does and the MK ultra-assassination programs.
	But anyway, somebody said something to, they were talking about what they're going to do, and his response was, I'm sorry, but gentlemen don't read other gentlemen's mail.
	We've come a long way from that, haven't we?
	There used to be some moral standards.
	We don't have any moral standards.
	That's the problem with America.
	We become a criminal empire.
	We don't care about the just war anymore.
	All we want is just war.
	Just war is what these people want.
	Not one that is justified.
	And that's my concern about it.
	And well, there is.
	He goes on and says, Christianity teaches us about sin nature, that humans are inherently bad.
	Just because we might leave others alone doesn't mean they'll leave us alone.
	We need to remember that.
	Yes, Madison said men are not angels, and so therefore we need to have government.
	But because men are not angels and because the government is going to be run by men, how do we watch them?
	Who watches these watchers?
	Who watches the CIA and the NSA?
	Guess what?
	Nobody does.
	They're running the drug wars.
	They're running the terrorist wars.
	They're running the terrorists that Trump spent Memorial Day with.
	Veterans Day.
	The guy that was running cover for al-Qaeda has been involved with all of these terrorist organizations.
	ISIS al-Nusra.
	They put him in charge of Syria after we used air cover.
	When the battle was running down, I showed you pictures of A-10 warthogs that were doing air cover for these Syrian, quote-unquote, rebels.
	They're actually ISIS and al-Qaeda people.
	And then they put an ISIS al-Qaeda guy in.
	And now he's in the White House, and Trump is meeting with him on Veterans Day.
	You know, what kind of screwed-up idea is that for a government?
	It is not what we want to imagine it is.
	These people have no moral standards whatsoever.
	Yes, men have a fallen nature, and they have a dual nature.
	Except for the politicians, they have one nature, and that's fallen nature.
	And who watches these people?
	How are they controlled?
	There is no control on our government.
	Our government is a feral government.
	That's how you spell federal now.
	F-E-R-A-L.
	It's like a feral pack of dogs that used to be your friend, your servant, but now they're running in a pack, and if you see them in the neighborhood, they'll rip you to shreds.
	That's what the feral government is.
	Yeah, I think a big problem is having the actual agency that only does spy work.
	If there is a need for intelligence, which sometimes there is if an enemy is attacking you, that should be handled within the greater military where there's oversight for it.
	Well, I think the greater need, Lance, is that you have this whole fantasy of a national security state that Truman created.
	And the idea that we've got to keep everything secret.
	And it all began with that little core of the NSA and the CIA.
	As a matter of fact, for the longest time, the NSA, everybody would joke, stood for no such agency.
	And when they had those hearings, and Frank Church looked at the CIA, and you had Congressman Pike looked at the NSA.
	When he brought in the NSA, he said, they talked about the CIA charter.
	They said, I'd like to see your charter.
	You were created by executive order from Truman.
	And the NSA had said, I'm not going to show you.
	There's absolutely no oversight.
	You can't even see the executive order that created the NSA.
	A congressman's not allowed to see it.
	And so there's absolutely no oversight.
	Everything under this national security nonsense, everything is secret, top secret.
	Can't tell you it's all compartmentalized.
	That kind of lack of transparency, lack of sunshine, lack of oversight, is what has given us a blank check for the most corrupt government the world has ever seen.
	And Israel is just like it.
	The two of them are twins.
	It's all about national security.
	Everything is secret.
	And that is a recipe for disaster because no one is watching the watchers.
	You're not even allowed to ask them questions.
	That's the reality of the.
	I despise the national security state.
	It's a worst part of the government that I despise in Washington.
	You're not going to change my mind on this.
	It reminds me of the thing with Tucker Carlson's father.
	You know, what they created to propagandize other countries, and then they start bringing it in.
	You need to have limitations on these agencies.
	Like the CIA, if it exists and is allowed to continue to grow, it is eventually going to be used on American citizens.
	That's why it needs to be very, any spy activity needs to be very limited, very observed by politicians and by the military structure rather than having a separate CIA thing is what I would say about this.
	And that's why I don't trust anybody that used to work for the CIA.
	I mean, you know, I've interviewed John Kiryaku multiple times because they sent him to jail because he told the truth about him.
	And he'll tell you the son of the truth.
	He'll tell you the truth about him now.
	But in general, I don't like to give a platform to people like that.
	And I don't trust people like Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones who have CIA in their family.
	I'm telling you, it's a cult.
	It's a click.
	It's a crime family.
	And they keep it close, just like the mafia does.
	It's organized crime.
	And they have been the criminal intelligence agency from their inception.
	Let's go ahead.
	I also want to say thank you, Marky Mark.
	We aren't upset that you're not a question.
	We are upset at the government.
	Thank you, Lance.
	Yeah, I'm not upset with you.
	I just, that is a raw nerve.
	I absolutely detest the CIA.
	Can I say it without spitting?
	So let's go back to the questions.
	Go ahead, Travis.
	Got Audi MRR.
	It says, as long as poverty taxes are a thing, Americans will never own their homes.
	That's right.
	Outright.
	But they're going to double down on it now.
	We'll make sure that you never get rid of your property tax and you'll never even get rid of your mortgage.
	I mean, that was one of the things.
	And we've talked about this for a long time.
	So I'm going to get a 30-year mortgage at the rate the property taxes are going up and the value of the dollar is going down.
	Pretty soon, you know, it makes it a little bit easier for you to pay your mortgage as time goes on because inflation, if you still have a job and your job is keeping up with inflation.
	But when it comes to property taxes and insurance, they got you there.
	And so that becomes the dominant force.
	But now Trump wants to keep you indebted to the banks forever as well.
	And we'll talk about where that came.
	It's very interesting where this idea for a 50-year mortgage came from.
	And we'll talk about that and we'll talk about the economic aspects of it when we come back.
	But go ahead.
	Yeah, he finishes, says, government will be there forever, landlord.
	Awesome King says, add it to property tax.
	Niberu 2029.
	50-year mortgages to be followed by 30-year auto loans.
	That's right.
	I don't think they'll even be giving out auto loans.
	You're not going to get to drive anywhere.
	Yeah, they don't want you to even own a car.
	Yeah.
	So equals, you'll own nothing and be happy paying your masters for your very existence.
	50-year mortgages will double the price of houses.
	Absolutely does.
	I've already seen people online saying, this is actually a good thing if you're smart.
	You're going to be paying less each month.
	And just sucker.
	I clearly.
	These companies work on long timelines.
	They're able to sit there and look at it and go, all right, so we're going to make a little bit less each month, but we're going to have you for your entire life.
	You are going to be paying us until the day you die.
	That's right.
	You will never be out from underneath them.
	Yeah, as a matter of fact, I ran through Travis and I've got it coming up a dollar buck for dollar analysis.
	I looked up to see what the median home price is because you look at median because when you got somebody's building palaces like Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, it kind of ups the average.
	So you look at the median price, right?
	And then you look at what the average interest rate is and look at it for a 30-year mortgage, look at it for a 15-year mortgage, because a shorter mortgage, like a 15-year mortgage, the interest rates are lower because the risk is less.
	And if you're going to go and add another 20 years to it, I said, okay, well, let's just add the differential between the 15 and the 30 right now.
	We'll add that to the average 30-year rate.
	And so I ran through the numbers, and you're going to be amazed at what the numbers are.
	You talk about a scam.
	It's the essence of a scam.
	But, you know, we talked about...
	The numbers, Mason.
	Yeah.
	When you talk about the property tax, remember Donald Rainwater in Indiana, who's run for governor twice there as a libertarian, he had a great solution.
	He said, okay, so let's say that, you know, 7% of your house is going to be the property tax.
	And you pay it once instead of every single year.
	And so what you could do is you could have that 7% folded into the cost of the mortgage and amortize it over 30 years or however long it is.
	Or you could pay 1% for seven years and then you're done.
	You pay it once and you're done.
	And that was his proposal.
	And unfortunately, people didn't vote for that.
	They voted for more of the same.
	They voted for slavery and perpetual taxation.
	He was a perfectly rational guy who wanted limited constitutional government.
	People won't vote for that.
	They are tribal.
	And well, I've always voted Republican or I've always voted Democrat.
	And I'm afraid if I don't vote for my tribe, that the other tribe is going to dominate us.
	And they're really, really bad.
	So I can't vote for somebody who's actually going to free things up.
	That's why I'm no longer involved in politics.
	Go ahead.
	Shelly A says, and not only paying forever, you're responsible for all the repairs and upkeep.
	What a great deal.
	Isn't that wonderful?
	That's right.
	If you don't keep it up, they'll come around with their code inspectors and they'll hit you with fines and take you home.
	Saw that on the lower end of homes in Florida.
	Yeah, it's like renting, but worse.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Nibaru 2029 says Trump's defaulted on every loan he's ever had.
	And he's going to default on the loan at all the $38 trillion of debt you just watched.
	That may happen under his watch.
	I think he's the perfect guy for that, as a matter of fact.
	Soylent Goy says, is GDP the best indicator of a good economy or cost of living versus the average income?
	I think you're right about that second one.
	I think that'd be a better indicator of the good economy.
	GDP is what the government wants.
	They want to see a lot of activity that they can tax and that sort of thing.
	From our perspective, it's cost of living versus average income.
	But from their perspective as the owners, they want to see GDP.
	And Defy Tyrant 1776 says, I was looking for an American-made coffee maker.
	All the China-made ones were $30 or so.
	I found two American-made ones, well over $100.
	Government did this on purpose, is what he says.
	And that's in everything.
	Like I've said.
	We used to be able to manufacture here because we had freedom, because we didn't have regulations that tied everybody down.
	I watched this happen with my family.
	My grandfather during the Depression started making home remedy medicines in the backyard with his sons.
	And then as things moved on, they built a factory.
	They started doing private label manufacturing for perfume companies and other things like that.
	They made their own line of perfume stuff that was sold mail order.
	And I watched the government, like a BOA constrictor, destroy that business as they do every manufacturing business that is out there.
	You can't have a business.
	Now, now with Trump, they even came after the service industries, the nail salons, the hair salons.
	Got to shut down everything.
	Americans can have nothing.
	And they're going to bring in people to replace us, bring in people to replace us in the universities, bring in people to replace us and work from the top to the bottom, even bringing in people to telework and pay them $3.75 to do the cashiering in New York City.
	Yeah.
	I recently had to buy a new backpack.
	My old backpack was slightly over a decade.
	It's got busted zippers all over the place and isn't really functional as a backpack anymore.
	And I was doing some research.
	The American-made backpacks are in the hundreds of dollars, $200 to $400.
	The one I got is from a specifically Chinese brand.
	They don't do knockoffs.
	They do their own thing.
	But on sale, I was able to get this backpack, which is same quality for $35 as opposed to spending $250 to $400 for something to carry my clothes or pieces of gear for the show around.
	And that's just when you're looking at it.
	Can you afford to make that?
	If you've got unlimited supply of money, if you're wealthy and you're free to distribute that wealth to the American companies, that's great.
	But the average person cannot make that sacrifice.
	They cannot look at that and go, I can afford to take that hit.
	I don't have the kind of money to sit around and say, you know what?
	I will spend an extra $230 on this backpack that is simply going to carry my clothes.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	It's just, it's not a good thing.
	And then the reason is, why is it so expensive?
	Again, it's going to be even more expensive because of tariffs and if they can even get all the parts that they need, because you can't source all.
	We have destroyed American manufacturing so much that most people can't source all the parts that they need to actually do domestic manufacturing.
	And so that creates uncertainty and expense, and these people are being put out of business due to that, thanks to Trump.
	But the reality is that you're not going to undo a system that has been put in place over many, many decades, and you're not going to do it overnight.
	And the biggest enemy, if you go back to Pogo, we has met the enemy, and they is us, the U.S. government.
	The U.S. government are the ones who have regulated our manufacturing out of existence.
	And they're not doing anything to fix that.
	Just like they're not doing anything to lower the cost of housing by pulling back on the regulations and the mandates of building houses.
	Let people decide what kind of cars they want and what kind of houses they want.
	If somebody wants something that is unbelievably energy efficient and bulletproof and all this other kind of stuff, if they got the money, go for it.
	But they ought to let the market decide, not some federal bureaucracy should not decide what kind of car you're going to be allowed to have or what kind of home you're going to be allowed to have.
	You ought to be able to build it yourself.
	And just go back and think about what even the local officials did after the massive floods that went through Asheville.
	You had Amish organizations who went there and built wooden houses for these people.
	And then you had the local building code people come in and say, well, that's not up to our code.
	And you don't have running water and electricity, so tear it down.
	That type of stuff.
	And government is the biggest obstacle of this stuff.
	They want you upset with the Chinese and with foreign countries.
	And they want to tell you that they're the ones that are responsible for your declining standard of living.
	The ones who are responsible for your declining standard of living are people like Trump and his backers, the Democrats and Republicans who are in Washington, and the people who are in the local government, even they are the ones who are strangling your cost of living.
	Let's start with that.
	That's the first thing we could do.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	Do we have more comments?
	We do indeed.
	Doug to 007.
	Has Trump never heard of job training?
	Apparently not.
	Apparently, he believes you're innately born with the skills that you need to do certain jobs.
	And if you're not born with them, you just can't do them.
	Well, obviously, he never had any job training for his businesses because he bankrupted six casinos.
	So he got no training on that.
	No, it's impossible to learn things.
	I've never learned anything and no one can.
	Talking about projection.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Star Barkley says, Trump admitting failure of government-run schools.
	That is very true.
	And the government-run schools are a complete and total failure.
	That's right.
	Marky Mark in New Jersey says, Thanks for the compelling arguments.
	However, feral cats and dogs will leave alone more than the federal government ever will.
	That's right.
	Feral cats and dogs are much more pleasant to deal with.
	Still patriotic.
	You can actually train them to be nice, unlike the federal government, the federal government.
	I got myself a feral dog a few years ago as part of the squad.
	He did eat the internet one time, though.
	Still a patriot.
	The intelligence agencies are a prime example of power corrupts and absolute power corrupts.
	Absolutely.
	Even if their intentions are good at the beginning, men should not have that much power.
	That is the essence of it.
	That's right.
	That is it.
	Okay, quickly, before we take a break, there's something that's been kind of weighing on my mind for a while.
	I'd like to, most of you have probably heard this term.
	Some of you may have not, but the concept of sort of noblesse oblige, you know, the obligation of the nobility.
	Yeah.
	And I see us, And this audience and people of similar mind have a sort of noblesse oblige to the fools in MAGA.
	It's very easy to get mad at them, to want to scream at them, shake them, and lose your mind at them.
	But to some extent, personally, I'm trying to cultivate a sense of, you know, it is my duty.
	You know, maybe they didn't have the benefit of a good father who understood this and was able to prime me.
	Or, you know, they had other aspects of their life where it didn't turn out properly or whatever.
	But they don't see this.
	They don't understand.
	And if we just sit here and we mock them and we yell at them, we scream at them, whatever, we're never going to make any headway.
	They might be blind.
	They might be dumb.
	But if they're blind and dumb, they need somebody to help them see through it.
	And it's very easy.
	It's very, very easy to want to scream at them.
	It's very easy.
	That's why I have you on the show, Travis, because I'm done with these people.
	I've been screaming at them for five years.
	It's like, if you can't see it by now, you're ever going to see it because you don't want to see it.
	You want to be part of this club.
	You want to be, that's your tribal identity.
	You found your tribe and you're going to live in that.
	And so, yeah, I'm done with these people, but I'm glad that you still want to talk to them.
	We need somebody who's going to talk to them.
	Not going to be me.
	Not going to be me.
	Well, we're going to take a quick break and thank you.
	And you can be our noblesse oblige part of the show here.
	We'll be right back, folks.
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	Welcome back, folks.
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	Well, you know, while we're talking about organic goat's milk, what Big Ag is doing, and they treat it as a win-win.
	You know, we're right here after, just after Trick-or-Treat and all the candy.
	There's an article on Children's Health Defense about how it's become something of a partnership between the candy companies and the big ag people.
	They are feeding leftover candy to cattle.
	And if you look at the picture of this, they've got all these chocolate bars and the cattle in the background.
	I wonder if you feed them chocolate bars if you get chocolate milk.
	What do you think?
	Probably not, but who knows what you get, actually.
	Candy companies overproduce, of course, and farmers feed the leftovers to the livestock, saying that it is a sustainable solution.
	But of course, Children's Health Defense looks a little bit deeper at this and says, you know, why is it that we have this systemic system like this of unhealthy food?
	Well, a lot of it has to do with the cheap corn subsidies coming again from the federal government, the high fructose corn syrup that is there.
	And there's disagreement between the people who are looking at this.
	Some people say, well, I think that's fine.
	You know, you need to have this sugar in the gut of the cattle helps them to, and their stomachs helps them to digest this stuff.
	Others say that it is not healthy for them or for their products.
	But while this is all happening, of course, the bigger issue is that now the Trump ag secretary just unilaterally authorized without any evaluation whatsoever mRNA vaccines for all the animals, right?
	So all your meat, your milk, all these different products, whether you're talking about pork or chicken, they are injecting all these animals with mRNA.
	I'm much more worried about that than them being fed candy bars.
	So a lot of them will say they're empty, they're nutritionally void and that type of thing.
	But others say, well, no, it's actually a good thing.
	So talking about recycling, let's take a look at recycled censorship.
	You know, for the longest time, we've talked about the horrific FACE Act that was set up to shut down any protests or any people who are standing there at abortion centers to talk to people.
	You know, you can't do that in the U.S. You've got to get back a certain distance.
	And we've seen that under the Biden administration, that FACE Act was really abused.
	They came after people who were in compliance with the FACE Act.
	And they still prosecuted them.
	And so it's the issue as whether or not the FACE Act is in compliance with the Constitution and the First Amendment.
	And of course it isn't at all.
	And now what you have are some protesters, Code Pink, which is not happy about what's going on in Gaza and the genocide that is there.
	And I'm not happy with that either.
	But they've taken a very confrontational approach.
	And there have been, there's a lot of churches who basically, they worship the political state of Israel instead of the Lord Jesus Christ.
	That's what Zionism is.
	And so as part of their worship service of a political foreign government, Code Pink then comes in and disrupts it.
	And they do it by stages to make it even more disruptive.
	They don't all do it at once.
	You'll have somebody stand up and do it.
	And then after all the commotion, they take them out.
	Then another person will come up and do that.
	And so that is a very, very annoying process of doing that.
	And I don't think that changes anybody's minds.
	And so I don't support either Code Pink or these Zionist churches.
	I support the rule.
	If you're going to protest something, don't be obnoxious.
	Don't be obnoxious.
	These people that sit in the highways, I have no sympathy for them.
	That's why, you know, when you look at most of these protests, I think they're counterproductive.
	Yeah.
	It's hard because you'll see these people sitting in the highway and you start seeing them getting abused by the cops.
	And it's just, should that be happening?
	No.
	But it's hard not to feel a sense of, yeah, get these idiots out of the highway.
	Get these people off the road.
	People have lives to lead.
	That's right.
	If you're going to protest the government, do not make people sympathize with the government.
	Don't make them cheer for the boot when it comes down on you.
	You have to be the type of person.
	You have to be better than the people you are protesting.
	You have to be a better alternative.
	That's right.
	You can't sit there in the highway and make people go, yeah, they have some good points.
	I think if we were to turn power over to these people, if they were to get in charge, things would be better.
	They're focused on disruption, not on debate.
	And they don't change anybody's minds.
	If anything, as you point out, they push them in the wrong direction.
	And I've seen this since the Vietnam War protests.
	I didn't support the Vietnam War.
	I could see what was happening to people that were slightly older than I was.
	And yet when you looked at these protests that were being done, it's like, I can understand why the middle-aged people would instinctively then push back against that and support the government and its war because they were so reprehensible.
	And this, again, I think, is very reprehensible.
	So what?
	Protests focus on disruption are really all about division for the people.
	It's about furthering the left-right divide that they then use to push tyranny.
	It's always, well, look at how crazy the people on the other side are.
	That's right.
	It's like the Black Lives Matter stuff again.
	You know, that was there to promote division, not to solve a problem.
	You got a problem, the way that the police are treating people, both black and white.
	Let's do something about that.
	Instead, what they wanted to do was to make it a black versus white issue.
	And in order to do that, they chose someone who had OD'd on fentanyl that he took before he was arrested and made him their poster child for everything.
	And then people rightly pointed out that, no, he wasn't murdered, he OD'd.
	And then that was, you know, the other side is all like, oh, well, then you're racist if you support people being murdered.
	They could have chosen any number of people that get killed and murdered, even by the cops all the time, both white and black.
	But instead, they chose someone who OD'd.
	That's right.
	This is why I say, you know, when you talk about means versus end, you know, you can be right on the issue.
	You can be right on the goal that you want to have.
	But if the means that you use is so reprehensible, that's going to work against the end that you want to achieve.
	And I see that in the way that Trump is handling this immigration issue.
	I agree that the illegal immigrants need to be sent home.
	They need to be taken off of welfare, first of all.
	But the way that they're doing this, and we just had a baby pepper sprayed by these people now, how in the world can you ever justify that?
	And yet you've got MAGA people out there who are doing it, saying, I voted for this.
	And it's like, well, I just don't know how much more reprehensible that is, Travis, than somebody, you know, they see a baby getting pepper sprayed in the face.
	I voted for this.
	This is what I want.
	Let's have more law enforcement like that.
	I think it's important for the law enforcement to actually follow law themselves.
	So what is happening now is that the FACE Act, which was put in place so that Planned Parenthood could kill babies, is now being grabbed by these Christian organizations to say, we want the FACE Act so that we can cheer on and support Israel killing babies in Gaza after they've been born.
	Right?
	This is the insanity.
	And the FACE Act is a direct affront to the First Amendment.
	It's a direct affront to the freedom of religion as well as the freedom of speech and of protest.
	And the way these people are doing this, because of the way that they're doing it, they are causing these issues.
	And so you've got these neo-Christians, I guess we could call them, trashing the First Amendment for pragmatic reasons.
	Maybe not neo, but maybe geo-Christians, right?
	They're all about land.
	That's what they worship.
	Texas pro-life activists took a page from the California environmental activists to functionally ban abortion in a lone star state by outsourcing civil litigation to private citizens so that abortion clinics couldn't sue public officials to block the bill.
	Red states repeated the environmental trick this year through bills targeting abortion pills as contaminants of drinking water.
	Now the bane of pro-life activists for over 30 years, the FACE Act, is being fashioned to protect Christian and Jewish congregations whose faith compels them to support Israel.
	And of course, that is true.
	They worship a political foreign entity rather than the Lord Jesus Christ.
	Don't call yourself a Christian if you're worshiping Benjamin Netanyahu and his government.
	Okay?
	Call yourself something else.
	First Liberty Institute filed a Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrance Act lawsuit.
	That's the FACE Act.
	Against hostile agitators affiliated with Code Pink on behalf of the Christian and Jewish Alliance, the Mission Church of Carlsbad, and a Jewish worshipper, Ruth Mastron, alleging that they carried out illegal campaign of disruption and harassment against three worship services.
	We just want to be able to gather safely, pray, and worship together without fearing for our lives.
	Well, if people are threatening you, that is assault.
	And there's always been laws against that.
	And that is a very different issue than shutting down speech.
	I disagree adamantly with the FACE Act.
	This is politics masquerading as religion, folks.
	They said they're holding people who were holding a vulgar sign, jumped on the hood of our car, they screamed, and they hung on the windshield, they said at the service.
	Well, again, that is not speech.
	That is action, right?
	And there's laws against that already.
	You don't need to shut down free speech because of that.
	The Federal FACE Act makes it unlawful for any person to use the force or threat of force or physical obstruction to intentionally injure or intimidate a person because he or she is lawfully expressing the right of religious freedom at a place of worship or obtaining or providing reproductive health services.
	Isn't that interesting?
	That when they wrote the FACE Act, first they said, well, we're going to protect churches.
	And they've never used it to protect churches.
	They've never used it to protect pregnancy, crisis pregnancy center counseling.
	They've never used it for any of that.
	They've only used it to protect the ritualized killing of babies.
	Yeah, that religious right R-I-T-E of the Democrat Party, abortion.
	The legislation has rarely been used to protect churches or pro-life.
	I don't know of any cases where they've used it to do that.
	And so they have gone after people who have stood on the sidelines holding signs, peacefully protesting, the mass murder of children that our government not only allows but would fund.
	And so again, the solution is to end the FACE Act, to keep the First Amendment, is not to continually attack the First Amendment and to take this anti-free speech thing and repurpose it for your own censorship purposes.
	The Heritage Foundation has called the FACE Act an ideological weapon designed to suppress ordinary pro-life activity and expression.
	And the GOP House Judiciary Committee approved a FACE Act repeal bill this summer, but it hasn't gone anywhere since.
	And so now what they are doing, the Zionists are using this, wielding this ideological weapon for their purposes.
	Isn't it interesting that all the people who want to shut down free speech are people who also want to kill babies, either in the womb or in Gaza?
	It would make it a lot more difficult to hold violent agitators and intimidating anti-Semites accountable under the law if Congress repealed the FACE Act, said one constant.
	So let's keep it.
	They would have to actually do something that was assault or a crime.
	Yeah, that's right.
	You know, this is the FACE Act like RICO statutes is a legal abomination that is in defiance of the principles of the Constitution and the letter of the law.
	Both FACE Act and RICO are put in with an argument for expediency.
	Well, we don't want to have to go through and charge them for the actual crimes.
	Let's just use this, create this new weapon.
	You know, with RICO statutes, we can go in and we can confiscate your money before we find you guilty.
	And then eventually, before you know it, you've got civil asset forfeiture where they're not even charging you with anything.
	They just steal your property and defy you to come back and sue them to get it back.
	They say that your property has committed a crime.
	Known to an older generation for its anti-war disruption during George W. Bush's presidency, Code Pink has been around for a couple of decades, and they are known also for their obnoxious, counterproductive protests.
	The defendants' actions have created, that is, Code Pink, create a culture of anxiety and fear within both the church and the alliance, causing them to cancel religious events and expand additional resources to ensure the safety of their members.
	Well, you should always assure the safety of your members, especially if your church is a soft target.
	And if you don't take those precautions, then it's really criminally negligent.
	So these people, these Christians, nominally, are actually selling the censorship rope, the anti-free speech, anti-freedom of religion rope that will be used to hang them.
	I'm okay with not being allowed to criticize Israel so long as I'm allowed to not be, I'm okay with not being allowed to criticize abortion as long as other people aren't allowed to criticize Israel is what they're saying.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Because they don't care about life.
	They really don't.
	So the rest of this article talks about some of the things that they've done.
	And it is obnoxious, like I said, using a bullhorn, screaming obscenities and slurs, and continually interrupting their meetings, you know, sequentially, one person after the other.
	And so I think both of these groups are absolutely reprehensible.
	And as you point out, Lance, they're okay with allowing abortion centers to kill babies as long as and stop people from protesting that as long as you can't protest them killing the babies that they want to kill.
	Well, when it comes to empathy, they say chat GPT is acting more human than some doctors.
	That's not a very high bar.
	That's right.
	Anybody been to a doctor lately?
	You don't usually find too much empathy that's there.
	But it's kind of interesting.
	You know, when you look at this, we started searching for what we do to take care of Keith's estate and his possessions and things like that.
	So we're trying to kind of groping in the dark.
	So I said, oh, let's just ask Rock one of these things and see what it comes up with.
	And actually, it came up with some good action items of things to do.
	And it began by saying, I'm so sorry for your loss.
	And, you know, I thought, wow, that's kind of amazing.
	I expected this cold analytical answer, and it came back with that.
	So, yeah, they are designed and trained for empathy.
	And doctors are trained for profit.
	So why is this a surprise?
	You know, we look at this.
	And it also brings up the difference between empathy and sympathy.
	You know, when you talk about empathy, it's about emotions.
	I feel your pain, famously, you know, from Bill Quinton.
	That was about empathy.
	Whereas sympathy is, I really do pity what you're doing.
	I desire to help.
	And I understand that this is, you know, it's about an understanding.
	I understand what this is, and I want to help you.
	But again, when we talk about empathy and we talk about chat GPT, chat GPT can never feel your feelings.
	And I think most of these people, when they talk about your lived experiences and stuff like that, which you heard from what was the guy, not Mario, but the other guy, the evil green guy, Luigi.
	Yeah, Luigi.
	Luigi Mangioni.
	You know, he was yelling and screaming about lived experiences and things like this.
	You know, you can try to understand what it's like to walk a mile in somebody else's shoes, but you can't actually.
	walk in their shoes.
	And so empathy at its core is a false idea, I think.
	You know, we can all be sympathetic when people are going through things, but you're not actually going through it.
	You will not actually feel what they are feeling, whatever is happening.
	You can try to understand it.
	And so I think sympathy is admirable.
	You know, you can feel for somebody, but you can't feel with somebody.
	You can't feel what they're feeling.
	And of course, ChatGPT cannot feel it.
	It has no feelings.
	And yet they're saying that because it's been trained to be, let's just say, sympathetic in its dealings with people, and the doctors have not been.
	They said AI chatbots like ChatGPT scored roughly two points higher than doctors on a 10-point empathy scale.
	So that's a pretty big increase there.
	The advantage held across 13 of 15 studies that examined cancer, mental health, thyroid conditions, and other medical questions.
	And of course, the chatbots will never be able to empathize because they are not ever going to have cancer, thyroid conditions.
	AIs are sympathetic and friendly.
	They're doing art and creating culture.
	We're going to be left in the dregs of society.
	We're going to be in the gutter as the robots get to have all the fun.
	That's right.
	But don't worry, they'll understand the pain we're going through.
	Yeah, that's right.
	And all the money will flow to their masters who are putting this stuff in there.
	In New York City, Mom Danny says he will arrest ICE agents.
	A city is in danger of trespassing multiple federal laws.
	Now, I believe that the mayor is, because I remember when Eric Adams got in, they had him taking the oath on New Year's Eve night as the ball dropped.
	After that dropped, they had a display there where Eric Adams was sworn in.
	So I guess maybe it's on January the 1st they swear in the new mayor.
	And that's really when the fireworks are going to begin.
	Forget about New Year's Eve.
	It's going to be once he gets sworn in.
	Both he and Trump have been bowing up and blustering about what they're going to do.
	And all this is happening.
	Again, like I said, the means makes a big difference.
	If you're going to put out these agents who are bullying people, who are wearing masks and shoving people around and driving their cars and people who are filming what they're doing and then pepper spraying a baby, this is going to create this kind of pushback that Mom Danny is talking about.
	He says he's going to have his New York City police arrest immigration and ICE agents.
	Problem is he wants to get rid of the police.
	He's got to decide what he's going to do.
	Is he going to get rid of the police or is he going to use the police to arrest the federal ICE agents?
	And so as he's boasting, we're going to do this.
	Trump is saying, well, if he does that, and Homan is saying, if he does that, we're going to arrest him.
	Trump says he'll have Mom Danny arrested if he interferes with ICE.
	He promised to do that in June.
	It remains to be seen, but that might just happen.
	Mom Danny's campaign literature certainly seems to say that he's willing to violate at least five federal statutes.
	But again, his messaging, he says, my message to ICE agents and everyone across the city is that everybody will be held to the same standard.
	If you violate the law, you must be held accountable.
	The problem is, is that he's not doing that.
	He doesn't want to hold people accountable who violated the immigration laws.
	But Trump wants to have immigration enforcers who also don't have to follow the law.
	It has become kind of optional or, you know, whoever's perspective it is there, which laws they like, they will follow those.
	And you better follow and obey the laws that they like.
	But then they're not bound to those laws.
	We have really are becoming rapidly a lawless nation.
	And this is on both sides of this debate.
	This is on both the side of Mondani, who doesn't want to have any immigration law whatsoever, and on the side of Trump, who thinks that the enforcers of immigration law should not be held accountable to a standard of legal actions themselves.
	So Mom Danny's platform is very clear on the immigration question.
	The city will harbor illegals and will block ICE from arresting and deporting them.
	Well, again, that is illegal.
	But the Trump side, even though they got people who were pepper-spraying a baby, they're going to look the other way and let them get away with that as well.
	Mom Danny promised to spend $165 million for illegals to get lawyers and to protect all personal data from other jurisdictions.
	That means the city will not tell the government when it has arrested an illegal alien.
	During the campaign, he vowed to kick the fascist ICE out of New York City.
	He said the big apple will be Trump proof.
	And so, of course, Trump replies and says, well, we'll have to arrest him.
	Federal law trumps him every day, every hour, every minute.
	We're going to be in New York City.
	Matter of fact, because it's a sanctuary city, Trump has made it clear a week and a half ago, we're going to double down and triple down on these sanctuary cities.
	That's Tom Homan.
	And that's why I said, you know, if you wanted to solve the immigration problem, first of all, you protect the borders.
	Secondly, which Trump never did.
	He never did anything with a wall, never did anything to put any kind of obstacle there at the border during his four years.
	That's one of the reasons why Steve Bannon made so much money defrauding people, telling them that he was going to privately build the wall.
	And I said at the time, I thought that one of the reasons that he was arrested during the Trump, you know, why they came after them for fraud during the Trump administration was because the fact that he would organize a private project to build the wall was a direct rebuke and exposure of the lies and hypocrisy of Trump about his central campaign issue.
	We're going to build the wall, and he didn't do it.
	And so I thought, well, that's one way to shut these guys down, come after them for fraud.
	But Trump eventually pardoned him after he was convicted of fraud.
	But there's a lot of different things.
	You can protect the border.
	You can stop the welfare magnet.
	And you can, first of all, start by going to cities where you're not going to have a direct confrontation where they're going to work with you to arrest and to deport people peacefully.
	Instead, they decided that they would go the confrontation route.
	And this tells you everything about Trump and his administration.
	Everything that they do is about creating chaos, conflict.
	And that is whether you're talking about Canada or you're talking about these sanctuary cities.
	That's the first place that they want to go.
	And that's why he got somebody like Homan.
	And they're all about the conflict.
	So, again, they still need to obey the law while they're enforcing the law.
	And if they don't do that, if they decide that they're going to disobey the law, they're going to act as thuggishly and use whatever force they wish.
	They're going to act like Judge Dredd.
	Mom Danny is going to be made a hero because of the optics of that approach.
	And they will turn him into, they'll magnify this Marxist Muslim, and they'll make him a hero.
	That will be the Trump effect.
	And I think that's perhaps what Trump is angling for.
	So the New American says, why is support for socialism growing?
	And it is a real concern because if you look at the young people, again, these universities, as I said before, seminaries for socialism, seminaries for Satanism.
	And when you look at where this is all coming from, it's coming from the universities.
	And Trump wants to keep those universities open.
	We've got to have them.
	Even if it means turning over technological edge to the Chinese students, even if it means keeping out those stupid Americans that can't be trained, right?
	As Trump said, you can't train Americans to do anything.
	They're so stupid.
	They vote for me.
	This goes back to the Frankfurt School.
	They made it very clear that their objective was to infiltrate academia.
	They were going to merge themselves with the structures that trained the next generation.
	And then they would train them how they saw fit.
	And this was many, many years ago, decades upon decades.
	They were willing to commit to the long, slow march through the institutions.
	That's right.
	Which, if you're able to do that, it is a remarkably effective tool.
	If you're able to plan in these time scales of decades to 100 years, you can work some very, very subtle plans.
	You can shape culture slowly, so slowly that most people don't even notice it's happening.
	That's right.
	And that's what they've done.
	That's right.
	That's part of the problem: we come in and we want this quick, fixed solution.
	Oh, we're going to take power and we're going to get it done in four years.
	It's very, very hard to undo something that has been said.
	You know, they've laid their plans.
	It's decades in the making.
	And you're going to undo it in four years?
	That's never going to happen.
	You have to take a realistic view of this and say, it took them decades to lay this.
	It took them decades to get us where we are.
	It may take decades to get us back.
	Yeah, as a matter of fact, it's not just the universities, as you point out, the march through the institutions, but it's also entertainment as well.
	And you can actually see that in the movie Hail Caesar by the Cohen brothers.
	They've got all the writers are hardcore communists, Marxists.
	They're working every way that they can to try to insert communism and Marxism into the films, which is really true.
	I mean, there really was a reason why you had the Red Scare and McCarthyism because they were really doing that because of the Franklin School.
	I remember when we went up to Kingston, New York, and spoke at the Occupy Peace Rally for Charles Sunti.
	And afterwards, I got a chance to meet and talk in person with Anthony Frida that we interviewed a week or two ago.
	And that's what he was talking about because he was in academia.
	He goes, how in the world did they take over all of the institutions?
	I said, that was always the plan.
	It was very, very gradually, right?
	Gradually, then suddenly we noticed.
	And that has been a long-term plan.
	And that's why, you know, it is, I think Makkah people understand where that problem is.
	They just can't see that Trump is not with them.
	He's against them on this as well as on many other issues.
	So what percentage of all the people who ever lived on the earth is the average American richer than?
	Well, we're richer than 99.9% of the people who ever lived on the earth.
	We live in an age of unprecedented prosperity, yet so many people are still dissatisfied.
	Again, this is the new American pointing out this.
	And as they talk about it, they talk about the root causes, which many people have talked about.
	I've said it as well, that the root cause of the socialism is envy and greed.
	That is something that is an innate character of our fallen nature, and that socialism seizes on that and tries to activate that.
	So more college students favor socialism, 67% view it favorably, than they do capitalism, 40%.
	And that's part of why socialism and Marxism is so hard to defeat, because it slots in so nicely into our fallen human nature.
	It appeals directly to our sin nature.
	It says they've got something, and you deserve to take it.
	You deserve to be able to just steal it from them.
	That's right.
	And that's very, very hard to combat if you do not have a Christian world, if you aren't Christian, you're not aware of this, if you're not willing to combat it, if you don't have Christ in your life.
	That's right.
	That's an almost unwinnable battle.
	If you're trying to argue with a Marxist who is an atheist socialist, good luck.
	They are fully given in.
	It is feeding this desire inside them.
	It is appealing to everything that is bad, and it slots in perfectly.
	That's right.
	The love of money is the root of all evil.
	It's also the root of socialism and the Republican conservative, quote-unquote, conservative equivalent of it, which is crony capitalism.
	The people in New York in this most recent election, Mom Danny, those aged 18 to 29, they said 72% of men and 84% of women voted for him.
	So they like socialism.
	That's what you're going to be living with, Travis and Lance, with your college-educated peers that are going to be there.
	Socialism, as they say, has failed everywhere that it's been tried.
	But of course, let's keep trying it yet again.
	That's the insanity of it.
	This time it'll work.
	And so one person said, well, I think this is why.
	There's three factors.
	Number one, wealth has become increasingly concentrated at the top.
	We all see that.
	Second, while the distribution of wealth is highly skewed, the distribution of votes across the electorate is not.
	Third, the myth that refuses to die is that wealth can be redistributed without significantly reducing its size.
	So yeah, we can just redistribute it and not kill the goose that laid the golden egg.
	That never really works.
	And we all can see how wealth is being concentrated, and that is really a big part of what is feeding this.
	And again, that comes back to envy.
	But it's also a reaction to the corporate greed that is there.
	And so, you know, the other thing they mentioned, which I've talked about many, many times, is that part of the problem is that they have created the terms.
	When you talk about capitalism, that was a term that was created by the Marxists.
	Why is it that we always let them create the terms of the debate?
	That means that they have the moral high ground in terms of the debate because they create the terms.
	They are progressive, but, you know, the other people are capitalists or whatever.
	When we use those terms that they use, and this even extends to all the red state stuff, as I've said many times.
	You know, Sheevan Fleet, who grew up under Mao and wrote the book Mao's America, a survivor's story.
	And she said, when I first came to America and all these people, these conservatives are wearing the red hats.
	I thought, what's going on?
	This is exactly opposite of the way it is everywhere else in the world.
	Well, there's a reason for that.
	You know, the Marxists and the socialists are not going to fly their own flag.
	They're going to pretend there's something completely different.
	And so they keep coming up with these terms, and we foolishly use those terms.
	So that's one of the things that the New American article is saying here.
	It's that stop using that term.
	You know, start talking about economic freedom.
	Because people have a, and rightfully so, a knee-jerk reaction against this.
	It is a term that was devised by these people to emphasize the stratification of wealth.
	So how we feel about our wages and wealth is relative and that it depends on a comparison with the wages and the wealth of others.
	As wealth becomes concentrated at the top, those outside of this group look upon their own economic circumstances with increasing disfavor and resentment.
	In a word, envy.
	But I think the other aspect of this, and we saw this when we went to China, was that even when people are objectively poor, if their lot in life is improving, right, they're happier.
	I mean, you can see this historically in America.
	By the standards of today and the ease and the comfort of life, we're infinitely wealthier.
	And yet, we're less dissatisfied because we don't have the freedom and the upward mobility that these people were building a life.
	They could see a future ahead that was going to be better.
	And I think that is the key thing.
	You know, when you look at China, even though the people there were extremely poor, their economic situation was rapidly improving.
	And so that gives you a very different perspective on this.
	And so, again, what can we do?
	We can stop using the term capitalism.
	It was originated by socialists used by them as a pejorative to help destroy what they hated.
	In other words, using the term capitalism has the precise effect that the 19th century socialists had hoped for.
	It alienates people.
	Stop using it.
	And again, we always let them pick the terms and then try to fight them on that moral high ground.
	Well, Marjorie Taylor Greene also pushed back against Trump, just like Laura Ingram did.
	And I was glad to see somebody finally doing that, a politician as well as a newscaster.
	And Trump started pushing back against Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	He says, she's lost her way.
	I don't know what happened to Marjorie.
	She's a nice woman, but I don't know what happened.
	She's lost her way, I think.
	And she replied and said, I haven't lost my way.
	I'm 100% America first and only.
	And so, again, she's calling him out on these betrayals that he has done of the MAGA people.
	And I hope that she can wake people up to that.
	Certainly, I guess it's not going to happen with me.
	I'm just going to tell people what it is.
	And say, if you don't see this, you're stupid because it's been going on now for a decade.
	And it's about time you figured out what's going on.
	And there's not anything I can tell you if you can't see it, really.
	But maybe some of the people that have been on the train, if they start to push back against this, it'll have an effect.
	On the November 1st episode of Bill Maher's Real Time, she said that the Republicans don't have a plan to replace Obamacare.
	She said it made her angry.
	So they don't have a plan to end the government shutdown.
	No, they have a plan.
	The plan is just not to do any of the things that they said they were going to do.
	That's the real plan.
	It is kind of interesting as Trump is on his vengeance tour here.
	They are now finally looking at the Clinton, the Clinton Foundation.
	And I've talked many times during Trump's administration, first one, to Charles Ortell.
	He's somebody who has really focused on the Clinton Foundation.
	And it was unbelievably low-hanging fruit if Trump wanted to do anything.
	You know, Trump didn't have to go after Hillary Clinton for the breaking of classified information and the leak of that with the Clinton emails.
	The far bigger crime, and the one that was even easier to go after, which was what Charles Ortell was talking about, was the Clinton Foundation.
	And I say easier because you don't even have to look at who paid them and what the people got in terms of quid pro quo.
	They had operated in violation of all of the rules of a charitable foundation.
	They had not filed any of the reports.
	They had not properly set up any of the documents.
	So just from an accounting perspective, just from a legal structure of the organization, they could have been shut down and prosecuted.
	And yet Trump didn't do that.
	And when you look at what he's doing now, going after, he's got this guy, Bill Pultey, the same guy that came up with a 50-year mortgage plan.
	He's got him out there auditing people that he wants to punish or get rid of, like Lisa Cook out of the Federal Reserve.
	He wants to get rid of her.
	He wants to punish people like Letitia James, which I think what she did was criminal.
	But what he's doing is he's got Bill Pultey going in and auditing with artificial intelligence, AI going back and looking at all of their history of real estate transactions, trying to find some details to get them.
	If he would do that with the Clinton Foundation, it'd be over.
	Because it's right there on the surface.
	Charles Otel has talked about that over and over again.
	So it looks like they are now going to start looking at the Clinton Foundation.
	And the fact that they just haven't filed the charges, I think, tells you everything.
	Because it's just, you don't have to do any deep dive or any deep research.
	They didn't file any, they haven't complied with any of the requirements of a charitable foundation.
	And they've played so fast and loose with all the laws that it'd be very easy to shut them down if they wanted to do that.
	And then finally, before we go to break, there was an interesting thing.
	When I saw this, Russia claims that it thwarted British and Ukrainian plot to steal a hypersonic missile-equipped jet.
	Does this sound like a movie that we've seen before?
	It's not just all the dystopian science fiction films that they're recreating, but it's actually this one as well.
	This goes back to, maybe you remember this, 1982, and you had a Clint Eastwood film that was called Firefox.
	And do we have that in the deck here, Lance?
	I didn't write that down.
	I didn't see it.
	I didn't see anything related to Firefox.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I won't play the trailer then.
	But the whole gist of it was that they had a new jet, which back in 1982, it was like a Neuralink type of jet, right?
	And you just think and it would go, and it was super fast and so forth.
	And it was going to change the balance of power.
	Well, even in 1982, that didn't sound too plausible.
	And Clint Eastwood played this crack spy and jet pilot, and they were going to task him to go in and steal this plane.
	And I remember watching the film, and I thought, okay, if it flies with, you know, by reading your mind, doesn't that require some training?
	How are you going to, first of all, go in and fly this foreign jet?
	You don't know how the thing works.
	And even worse, you've got to train it to read your thoughts, just like we were talking about on Monday, you know, that mind-reading computer thing.
	I mean, they're working on that pretty hard now.
	That part of science fiction is becoming reality.
	And we showed how the one company was bragging that they could decode the image that you're looking at.
	They could decode it and reproduce it in software just by looking at your brain activity.
	Truly, pretty amazing.
	But that was supposedly how that jet was working, and it's going to be a game changer.
	But, you know, when it figures out what you're looking at, they've got to train this computer for an hour, reading your mind, doing a functional MRI, looking at the brain activity as opposed to brain structure.
	They've got to train it for an hour.
	Their competitors have to train for 40 hours, and they still can't get the stuff right.
	But anyway, in the story, of course, Clineswood succeeds, but not without being chased by, he disables all the other planes that are there that are like it, except one of them.
	It doesn't get disabled.
	So a guy comes after him with the same jet, so they have a dogfight and that type of thing.
	But I didn't think it was one of his best films.
	Interesting idea.
	But when I saw this headline, I thought, this is like Firefox.
	The difference is, there's a couple of spins on this that I think make it interesting because especially when I saw the hypersonic thing, it's like, well, this is an admission that we have fallen behind in terms of technology.
	So they want to steal this hypersonic missile-equipped jet.
	Is it because they want to get the hypersonic missile and reverse-engineered or something?
	Well, this was announced by the Russian Federal Security Service, FSB.
	They said that they had thwarted the alleged plot in which foreign spies allegedly offered Russian pilots $3 million if they would steal the jet.
	You get this jet, you fly it to us, and we'll pay you $3 million.
	Well, that would make sense, right?
	And that would be the way that they would go about it.
	And somebody who already knows how to fly the jet, because it takes a while to train on these unusual, this unusual technology that is custom-made for each one of these instruments here.
	The FSB then said the stolen aircraft was intended to be flown toward a NATO base in the Romanian city of Constanta.
	In order to hijack the aircraft, Ukrainian military intelligence officers tried to recruit Russian pilots, offering $3 million.
	The special services then planned to send the jet with the hypersonic missile to the area where NATO's largest air base is located, where it would then be shot down by air defenses.
	So rather than paying them the $3 million, they would shoot the jet down.
	And so the Russian special services are saying, yeah, we saw this, and the whole thing was going to be set up not to get the technology, but it's going to be set up to set up a false flag event to escalate the war more directly with Russia.
	And so the interesting thing is that they have pointed out this wouldn't have been the first time something like this has happened.
	Kiev has previously offered money and assistance to defectors.
	In 2023, a Russian Mi-8 pilot, Muksim Kuzminov, defected to Ukraine, landing his helicopter behind the front lines with help of the Ukrainians.
	Two of the other crew members who were unaware of his plan were killed upon landing.
	Kuzminov was assassinated a year later in Spain, where he was living under a new identity.
	So this sounds very much like the plot of a movie.
	So he gets paid off.
	He delivers the helicopter and then he shoots the other two crew members, takes the money, gets a new identity, goes to Spain, and then the Russians catch him and kill him.
	In 2022, the FSB accused former Bellingcat investigator Christo Grozev, a Bulgarian-born journalist, of taking part in a failed Ukrainian attempt to recruit Russian military pilots.
	Grozev said he was embedded with Ukrainian intelligence officers as a documentary filmmaker, and he claimed that his text messages were forged.
	As for the fresh FSB claims of the attempted jet and hypersonic missile theft, Ukraine and the UK will no doubt express outrage and denial, but it does serve to illustrate the level of suspicion and shadow wars that are currently raging in the background related to the Ukrainian conflict.
	Yes, absolutely.
	A little bit of espionage and Hollywood movie plots.
	But I would not be surprised to see some kind of a false flag attack that would be used to escalate the war.
	Before we take a break, Travis, why don't you cover the comments here?
	Yes, I've got one here and more will be coming in in a minute.
	From Scott Helmer.
	He says, thanks, guys.
	My latest song calls out the war machine and false left-right divide.
	Our rights come from God.
	If it resonates, please comment and share to help wake others up.
	And he linked his song in the comment.
	So if you scroll up in chat, you can find that.
	Please go check it out, share it around.
	Scott does a lot of good work.
	He's a very talented musician.
	And he does the singing and he does the music himself.
	I saw at the top of the Drudge Report this morning, the number one country music hit is now an AI tune.
	It's like, we need to support real artists, especially people who get it like Scott Helmer does.
	So hope that you find that there.
	Yeah, go check it out.
	And we've got Jim Seven.
	Thank you very much, Jim Seven.
	Really do appreciate the support.
	Couldn't do it without you all.
	It says Trump will be a lame duck after the midterms and can ride that scapegoat for failed policies right out to pasture.
	Yeah.
	The gilded gelding is what we should call it at that point.
	IRS machine gun.
	Thank you very much.
	He says silver is 52.58 and climbing.
	That's good.
	That is because the dollar is going down.
	Well, it was a little bit of a pause there.
	And I said that wasn't going to last because, again, there was going to be profit taking after the big run-up.
	And, you know, there's some other things that spooked Wall Street.
	And we'll talk about that when we come back.
	But the fundamentals are all still there.
	And the fundamentals for a bad economy and a bad government are all still there.
	We're going to talk about the AI bubble and a new pen that just surfaced recently.
	Is that going to be the pen that bursts the bubble?
	We'll see.
	We'll talk about that when we come back, but you've got some more comments here.
	Pezo Novante, 1776, says, where does one think the youth will turn?
	The system stymies, homeownership, marriage, career advancement, wealth creation, etc.
	You don't think the displaced youth will run to demand promising free stuff?
	That's right.
	You know, I looked at asymmetric warfare.
	All of the American military guys who were talking about this at the time, and again, they would have, it was really obscure stuff.
	I mean, they would have their conferences and they would talk about asymmetric warfare, you know, where we go in with the big planes and we bomb out their infrastructure, but then, you know, you've got to put boots on the ground and get involved in nation building, which is a failed idea.
	But while that happens, then you get the improvised explosive devices and all the rest of the stuff, a guerrilla warfare, which we consistently lose.
	They call that asymmetric warfare.
	And they said, what is it that motivates people?
	Is it religion?
	They said, no, what we found was that the people who were the leaders that typically evolved were typically in their early 30s.
	Many of them came from very wealthy families and had been trained as engineers or other things like that.
	And what was motivating them initially, they would eventually turn to religion.
	But it was not Islam that was initially motivating them.
	They were initially motivated by the fact that they had no future, that their country had been taken over, that all of their opportunities for advancement had been taken from them, which is exactly what you're talking about there.
	And that is what's so dangerous about this time.
	That is the policy of both the Democrats and the Republicans, to leave us hopeless and without a future.
	And the only answer to that is the only answer to anything.
	I mean, when you look at life and you look at how brief it is, the only answer for hope is really in the Lord Jesus Christ.
	And if people don't have that, it just, they get desperate.
	They get crazy.
	And that is really what is happening with the younger generation.
	Assyrian girls says another socialism magnet for young people is the lack of opportunity to work and prosper.
	They see they have no future and think that socialism will give them what they need to survive.
	That's right.
	And they're wrong about that.
	Part of the reason why a lot of millennials and younger generations have this intense animosity towards boomers.
	They see the boomers as the generation that voted for all these policies that hollowed out America.
	And of course, realistically, when you look at it, if my generation or the Zoomer generation, Generation Z, had been in place of the boomers, they would have done the exact same thing.
	They would have bought the propaganda that was there at the time and they would have enabled these same policies.
	That's right.
	My generation and Zoomers are benefiting from the fact that hindsight is 2020.
	We can see the consequences of it.
	We see and feel it, so we get to go, that was a dumb decision.
	How could you have ever been so dumb to do this?
	But now the boomers had no choice.
	You could either vote for the bad policies or you could not vote.
	And the majority of people don't vote.
	And as I've said, and I said it all through the fights about the election in 2020, I said, if you want to pay attention to the corruption and control of our elections, take a look at ballot access.
	Take a look at the shutdown of debates.
	If you shut down debates, which were completely shut down in the last election cycle in 2024, no debates, Democrats or Republicans.
	And so if you shut down debate, if you completely control the ballot and you turn it over to political parties who will determine who gets to run for office, even at the lower level, then you don't have a quote-unquote democracy or a democratically elected republic.
	You don't have any of that stuff.
	You don't have a choice.
	They make sure that they put on the ballot Tweedle D and Tweedledum, and both of them are going to pursue the same end goal, but they will use a few wedge issues and they will come at that end goal from a different perspective.
	Well, we have a guest who's going to join us.
	And so we're going to take a quick break and we're going to talk about all things COVID when we come back.
	And this is somebody who has seen the system from the inside.
	And she's got some things that she wants to talk about in terms of the medical system.
	And so we're going to take a quick break and we're going to be joined by Zoe Smith.
	I'm not sure if it's Zoe or Zoe.
	I'll find out when we talk to her.
	But we'll be right back.
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	And joining us now is Zoe Smith.
	She has set up a website, thrillkillmedicalcult.com.
	You can also find her on Substack.
	The name of the Substack is Zoe.
	That's Z-O-W-E.substack.com.
	And we want to talk to her about being a whistleblower and the things that she saw during the pandemic lockdown.
	Zoe worked as a medical coder for over a decade.
	Tell us a little bit about that.
	What was that involved with?
	Is that for insurance purposes, identifying the procedures and putting the right code on it?
	Yeah.
	Hi.
	Thanks for the invite.
	Thanks for being here.
	Yeah.
	So a medical coder, a lot of people don't even know that it exists because you don't really see it as a patient.
	But everything that happens to you in a hospital, clinic, x-ray, lab, whatever, has to have a diagnosis and procedure assigned, and that's how your doctor gets paid.
	So the coder is the one who reviews that documentation, assigns the right diagnosis code, assigns the right procedure code, and that's what gets put on the bill and that your insurance or Medicare uses to pay your doctor or the lab or the hospital for their services.
	So it was really boring until it happened.
	And then you had a bird's eye view of what was going on.
	I was just telling you off air, the aha moment for me was the AHA, the American Hospital Association, and I believe it was August of 2020.
	I've talked about this many times.
	They got very upset because they said to CMS, who was paying them, they said, you told us that we didn't have to have a PCR documentation for this.
	They said that you didn't have enough of them and you said they didn't work.
	And you said we just point at somebody, do a clinical diagnosis, and you would give us a 20% bonus on everything that we did to the people, as well as the upfront cash bonus of $13,000.
	And now you want to have this new requirement.
	You know, that's not fair.
	So they were complaining because they weren't getting paid.
	And it kind of exposed the whole thing, except nobody would cover that.
	It was amazing to me how there was dead silence everywhere about that.
	I mean, you incentivize people to that degree.
	And I would always say to people, look, the money is the issue.
	You know, the declaration of the emergency by Trump unleashed the money, and then they put out these rules through CMS and paid these people to kill, is really what was happening.
	Absolutely.
	And that's what you saw as well, right?
	Yeah, that's they did.
	I don't know if you're familiar with the vaxxed bus, but Children's Health Defense, they sent out a third one.
	So they've done part one, part two, and now part three.
	The part three is called authorized to kill for that reason because the CARES Act really did, it incentivized a behavior change in hospitals and with physicians and how they were able to practice medicine.
	It set everything on its head and it incentivized everything.
	What you're talking about, what the HA said about you didn't even need a PCR test result to get that COVID diagnosis is absolutely correct.
	And that was one of the things that I noticed in the Pandora's box of things that changed right when they declared two weeks to flatten the curve in March of 2020.
	They changed all the coding rules as well.
	So April 1st, 2020 is when the COVID-19 diagnosis went into effect.
	And we were actually told to commit fraud before that time because we didn't have a code to reflect COVID-19 and we needed to track that so much.
	And of course, everyone had to get the PCR test in order to get the diagnosis.
	But then there was this official coding guideline, which is what we use as coders.
	It's like our Bible.
	It tells us what's correct, what's fraud, and it's essentially it lays out the rules.
	And in those rules, there's a part that says, in order to be diagnosed with COVID-19, all your physician needs to do is write down in their medical opinion that they think that you have COVID-19.
	They didn't need to do an exam.
	They didn't need to have a PCR test result.
	And it says right in that official guideline, this is an exception to Section 2H inpatient coding guidelines, which says for every other diagnosis, they have to do an exam and they have to have some sort of clinical documentation, usually some sort of lab work or diagnostics to prove their working diagnosis.
	So COVID was an exception for that.
	And that was one of the really big red flags that came up for me.
	And of course, I noticed in my position, not only is everyone getting this PCR test when we come in, they're not all sick.
	But then they get this COVID-19 diagnosis.
	And the part that most people that still a lot of people aren't familiar with is when they did the two weeks to flatten the curve and they locked down everybody, they actually kicked people out of the ICU early.
	Yeah.
	And they shut down other wings of the hospital.
	They went down to a skeleton crew.
	So they consolidated wings within the hospital.
	So the ER and the ICU stayed open, but the rest of the hospital was shut down.
	We were getting furloughed and laid off and hiring freezes and no raises, no bonuses during the time when the media was saying, these healthcare heroes are showing up to fight the onslaught of COVID-19 patients.
	It was an onslaught of false positive tests, but it wasn't an onslaught of a whole bunch of patients.
	We were getting furloughed.
	So the hospital really, really needed that money because they were bankrupted right before those incentives came out.
	So they really needed those incentives.
	So they were absolutely excited to label someone as COVID-19 and get that 20% diagnosis and then hook them up to the ventilator, which they got another bonus for.
	Then the Rendesivir, which they were giving out like candy during this entire time, the bonus really didn't go into effect until August of 2020, but they were using it from about April all the way through.
	And I noticed how the protocols were killing people.
	And doctors would just say, oh, this is a progression of COVID-19.
	And to this day, a lot of people will say, oh, I had a family member that died of COVID.
	They went to the hospital because they had COVID and they died of COVID.
	But I asked them, did they really die of COVID or did they die of the protocol?
	Were they not that sick until they got there?
	And then they circled the drain because in my experience, most of the patients within sometimes a few days to sometimes it took up to a month, but those protocols were killing people, shutting down their organs, and then they would die.
	And that wasn't normal to have that happen to a pneumonia patient.
	Normally they'd be there three days.
	We pump them full of antibiotics, which we weren't using for COVID-19.
	And then they would go home.
	So this was totally backwards.
	And then I started to notice all the incentives.
	Because even as a coder, they have all these checks and balances in the electronic medical record system.
	And it counts against you if you miss something.
	So like if I missed someone for COVID-19, I would get a notice about it.
	Like, oh, this is going to count against your score and might not get a raise this year because you weren't a good coder.
	And they were watching that for Rendesivir because the bonuses were so much.
	On the bill, every single Rendesivir infusion was $4,000, give or take a little bit throughout the country because it's weighted based on where you live.
	So it'd be more expensive in New York or California.
	But around $4,000 per dose is how much they were getting.
	Yeah, the ventilators.
	I interviewed a woman who was a nurse.
	She wrote a book called Pandemic Nurse, and she was in Florida.
	And she said, I wasn't seeing the kind of narrative that they were talking about with the pandemic.
	And everybody was saying it was all happening up in New York.
	So she left and went to New York to help and sat around for a couple of days after she told them she was there before they brought her in.
	When they finally did bring her in, she's like, you know, what's going on?
	They're not busy either.
	When they brought her in, physician walked around, showed the people on the ventilators, and he said, you know, about 90% of these people are going to die.
	And she said it was horrible.
	They were just killing people.
	And of course, when you look at it, if you get a $13,000 bonus for pointing at somebody and saying they got COVID, they may not even be sick, as you pointed out.
	Then if you put them on a ventilator, you get $39,000.
	Already right there, you got $52,000 for a machine that costs you $50,000.
	And then they will pay you 20% on the charges that you've got for them to use it until you kill them with that ventilator.
	And again, pulmonologists were looking at this and come back and said, this never made any sense.
	We never did it like, as you're pointing out, they give people antibiotics and things like that.
	So we would never put people on a ventilator, you know, for pneumonia or things like that.
	Exactly.
	All of it was so incredibly corrupt and counterintuitive.
	And they turned the hospitals into killing machines for money.
	And everybody was willing to do that.
	I mean, if you've got somebody that's there, and even if it wasn't an economic emergency that had been created partially by the government, if you were to tell somebody, you point to that person and say they've got this condition, I'll give you $13,000.
	We know how human nature works, and we know how the corporate hospitals work.
	I mean, the incentives to do that are going to be huge, just like the disincentives to report somebody when they've had a reaction to the vaccines are going to be huge as well.
	Were you still there when they started the vaccination program or had you left?
	Because you say that you left when they made the vaccine mandatory.
	Did you see it happening before that?
	I started to wake up during really when they started declaring two weeks to flatten the curb and I started seeing people wearing masks in public.
	I knew this was not a pandemic and there was something, some kind of psychological operation going on.
	Because I had worked in the hospital for the swine flu scare and it wasn't a thing in the hospital.
	Like it was just regular flu.
	I've even talked to people that were on the front lines, like ER doctors and nurses.
	And they said, some of them even said that they got it and it wasn't that big of a deal.
	So when they declared COVID, I was really suspicious.
	This is just going to be another vaccination campaign because they already had mandates for the flu shot for healthcare workers for like a decade before that.
	And I had been doing the exemption every year.
	And the reason I did that is because the first year that they made healthcare workers get the flu shot, everybody was getting the flu.
	And so that was the year that we came up with the, it was just a rumor within the university lab where I worked, but everybody was saying it that you get the flu from the flu shot.
	So ever since then, I just didn't want to do it.
	So during that whole year of Operation Wurtsby, the only thing that's going to get us back to normal is this vaccine, I thought, if the flu shot never worked, the chances that the COVID shot is going to work is slim to nil.
	And the amount of pressure for this one compared to the flu shot is astronomical.
	So there's something to it.
	So that made me actually not just look at the COVID shot, but look at all the other vaccines.
	And what I learned was they don't teach coders or doctors or nurses anything about vaccine side effects or adverse effects, despite the fact that they have codes to assign for vaccine effects.
	But I would see patients come in with like Geon Beret before this, and the doctors would try very hard not to relate it to a vaccine.
	And there would be codes in there, like adverse effect of flu shot or adverse effect of whatever.
	And those are supposed to be like a safety signal code.
	Like one of the reasons why the ICD-10 system, which is owned by the WHO, by the way, so every member state that is part of the WHO has to report these codes and it's for statistical monitoring purposes.
	So this is how they monitor pandemics.
	This is how they monitor cancer, like how many cases of cancer there are throughout the world or heart problems or pneumonia cases.
	This is the system that they use.
	And it's also supposed to be used starting in clinical trials for devices and drugs to look for a safety signal.
	So I thought with this COVID-19 vaccine, there should be a code for adverse effect of this shot.
	And it should be my job to assign it.
	So I did my due diligence and I looked into all the warnings and what could happen if people got the shot.
	And then I looked at what could happen if people got the other vaccines.
	And I started to realize that they had been varying all of the effects that people would get from vaccines and not assigning these adverse effect codes up until 2020.
	And then when the COVID-19 vaccine came out, there was no code to report it.
	So it should have been my job to collect that danger signal.
	And I even went on a podcast called Deborah Gets Red Pill.
	It was just a radio show in early 2021, right after I quit my job.
	And I said, the COVID-19 vaccine is more dangerous than all of the other vaccines combined.
	And that was with my, that was just an observation, but it was 10 years of medical coding experience.
	And then learning what I learned about vaccine side effects and all the cases that I saw of children in the ER constantly having eczema or rashes or even anaphylactic responses.
	And then I look at the record and they just got a vaccine, but the doctor's not connecting the two.
	So when COVID-19 came out, people were having strokes and encephalitis and blood clots like I've never seen before.
	My own carditis, they were getting COVID-19 immediately after getting the shot, like the same day or the next day, and then being hospitalized.
	There were people with paralytic problems, seizure disorders, blood disorders, where they couldn't even figure out what was going on because the patient was clotting and bleeding at the same time and they didn't even know how to treat it.
	Wow.
	Um, crazy stuff started happening just in the first four months of the vaccine rollout.
	So it wasn't even available to the rest of the public yet.
	But by summer of 2021, is when they started saying, You at home, like this is the hospital leadership.
	They would have videos that they would send to all staff all the time monitoring COVID.
	And they were really, really pushing us to get that shot.
	They were saying, We're not doing as good as the other hospitals who are getting incentivized for meeting their vaccination quota, and we weren't.
	So they were pointing to us people who worked from home, who never saw patients, who never walked into a hospital.
	You guys are spreading it around society, and we're going to have to fire you if you don't get your shots.
	So at that point, I couldn't take it anymore.
	I knew that my job had been to get them money for murdering patients, and I was having a crisis of conscience over that.
	And then before the vaccine went out, I decided I was going to be a spy at that point and just see if the vaccine really was as bad as all the warnings said.
	And then it turned out to be far worse than I anticipated.
	And I didn't think that the chances would be very good that I would get an exemption because they changed the rules for getting an exemption.
	A lot of people got fired.
	And I didn't want to work for them anymore.
	I didn't want to continue helping them get money to murder people.
	Good for you.
	Good for you.
	Yeah, you really did have a lot of people.
	You really did have a bird's eye view of this whole thing because you're seeing the diagnostic codes as well as the treatments that are there.
	And so you could get a good picture of what was actually coming on and seeing the trends that were there.
	That's very interesting, your perspective.
	You know, I've got something, and I apologize because we can't feed this to you, so you can't hear this.
	I'll kind of talk about it and describe it.
	But I want the audience to hear what Lutnik, I call him Lucky Lutnik, what he said in terms about the money that can be made off of this kind of stuff.
	And he uses an example of the vaccines.
	The United States government, the most powerful, the greatest customer, buys stuff.
	We walk in.
	We're going to buy.
	Here's the example I like to use.
	We're going to buy two billion COVID vaccines.
	When we buy it, Pfizer and Moderna stocks are going to triple.
	They're going to triple.
	So then we say everyone's going to have this vaccine.
	If I were after Jared Kushner negotiated the best deal he could, if Howard Luttnick walked in the room, Howard Luttnick would say, What do you think?
	20% warrants?
	20% warrants?
	Right.
	Right?
	What?
	So we'd make $50 billion off of who?
	Nobody.
	We didn't take from anybody.
	We didn't do it.
	Okay.
	The shareholders of Pfizer, who we've just tripled them with our order.
	Right.
	Now, how many of my customers?
	Yeah.
	Zoe, what he's saying, Zoe, says, Yeah, you get the U.S. government's most powerful customer.
	So we're going to go in and we're going to buy $2 billion worth of these vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna.
	We're going to force people to take them.
	He goes, So I'm looking at this.
	I'm saying, well, I'm going to get some 20% warrants.
	I want some action of that.
	I know what's going to happen with all this.
	And he says, and you know, and who have we harmed with all this stuff?
	It's like the people who got the shot, obviously.
	But he doesn't even see that.
	He sees nothing but dollar signs.
	This is the guy, of course, that is now the commerce secretary for Trump.
	And he's the guy who's pushing through the stable coins and all the rest of this stuff.
	Makes you wonder what he is going to be doing to us with the stable coins and the resetting of the financial system.
	These are people who see nothing other than money, and they don't care what they have to do to other people in order to make money.
	It truly is amazing, the greed in the system and the corruption.
	Right.
	It is so hard for me to wrap my brain around how many people they killed.
	It was a silent genocide that is still invisible.
	But there's no family that I can, that I've talked to in the last five years that hasn't been touched by it in some way.
	Either someone they know is suffering from cancer or some horrible chronic condition after getting the shot, or they've lost somebody.
	Like I lost my cousin who was 17, who suddenly just drove into a tree and they didn't do an autopsy or look into it.
	And there's countless other people out there like that.
	I mean, this was our family.
	And people are still just kind of burying their heads in the sand and wanting to go on like it didn't happen.
	The amazing system is still set up to where it could still happen again.
	Like we haven't even held those people accountable.
	As a matter of fact, we put them back in office again.
	And so, you know, that's why, to me, I look at it.
	And what astounds me the most is just how effective the control of information has been.
	That's why what you're doing is so important.
	You've got to get out there and tell people what happened.
	Because as you point out, everybody I know as well, there's been somebody in their family, immediate or extended family that's been harmed by this.
	But everybody thinks that this is a one-off.
	It didn't happen to everybody else.
	They don't realize that it happened, how broad this is and how extensive it is.
	And they think that they're alone.
	Just like they wanted us to think that we were alone if we saw what was happening and we weren't going to participate in it.
	Well, you're the only one who thinks like that.
	And we're not.
	There's a lot of people out there who saw what was happening and were onto this scam from the very beginning.
	And I had the help of a person who gave me a heads up about a year before this happened.
	He said, there's a lot of chatter about Dark Winter 2.
	And he goes, you know what Dark Winter 1 was?
	I was like, yeah, I know about that.
	And so when I saw all of this, it was falling right in the pattern of all these germ games.
	The very first one was two months before 9-11.
	So I knew exactly what was happening with this.
	And also knew about the PCR test and what Carrie Mullis said.
	So talk a little bit about what you saw with the PCR.
	Right.
	So that was another part of the Pandora's box that changed right at the beginning of March 2020 when they declared two weeks to flatten the curve and changed our whole lives upside down.
	I noticed that before COVID, I worked in a university lab when I was in college and we had what's called a rapid flu test.
	And it was something that it was a no swab too, or it could be a saliva swab, but it wasn't something that went all the way up to your brain like the COVID PCR swab did.
	And even the instructions, like us in the lab as lab assistants, one of the number one things we did was coach people on how to collect specimens properly because it was our job to like screen them, make sure they were going to work for the test.
	And if they weren't in a correct format to accept for the test, then we'd have to tell the nurse or doctor, we need you to go recollect that specimen.
	So these rapid flu tests, they had to be done within 15 minutes.
	And it was basically a PCR test.
	It didn't have the same psychothronical part.
	So it was kind of a predecessor to the COVID-19 PCR test.
	But it wasn't done on every patient that had a cold or flu symptom or a pneumonia at all.
	It was only done on patients that came in like with a recurrent pneumonia that they couldn't cure or a recurrent cold.
	And it would be done to try and figure out which types of medications this particular disease would respond to.
	So it was like a case-by-case basis.
	It wasn't just everybody that walked into the hospital.
	And so when COVID-19 came around and they said, you need to stick this all the way up into people's brains, no saliva, and it has to be on every single person.
	Because I mean, it really flipped it at one point.
	It went from you can't get the PCR test like because they had a drive-through where you could go out into society at first and you have to go to one of these PCR testing centers and they'd say you have to have symptoms.
	You can't get it unless you have symptoms.
	And then people were mad that they couldn't get the PCR test.
	And then like overnight, it flipped to now everybody has to get it for everything.
	You have to get it if you walk in the ER, even if you don't have COVID symptoms.
	And I thought that was weird.
	We never did that before.
	That is not supposed to be a screening test.
	It's supposed to be a diagnostic test because a screen is done when you don't have symptoms.
	It's trying to rule out if you're developing something.
	And they were telling us asymptomatic spread.
	Well, I could see in the hospital, there's no such thing as asymptomatic spread.
	This six feet thing is made up.
	Masks don't work.
	I knew that from the very beginning because masks in the hospital had only been used for like collecting spittle over like a surgery case.
	It wasn't meant to like prevent germ spread.
	That was never part of our infection control.
	So I knew there was something up with these PCR tests.
	And I kept looking at the results.
	And finally, I find that it's done by PCR.
	And I recall my time at a university lab when we were just starting PCR testing because this was early 2000s.
	And Mullis invented it like late 86 is when the NIH took it up and started using PCR.
	So it got into healthcare early 2000s.
	And all the techs, like my mom was a medical technologist.
	It was her job, and she actually ran one of these labs.
	It was her job to, you know, run those tests.
	And they were all talking like this was like their new tech, like they were kidding in candy store excited about it, this PCR thing.
	But it was all genetic testing.
	It was genetic.
	It was done for cancer screening, which they thought was genetic.
	And it was done for like women that would, like, they would call it genetic counseling.
	If you're a couple and you're a female and you go and you want to have genetic counseling, you can see if you have like a hereditary disease like Huntington's, and then maybe decide if you want to continue with procreation or not.
	So it was genetic.
	So I thought, why all of a sudden are we testing for viruses with PCR?
	Well, well, I wasn't looking because for 10 years I was a medical coder.
	So I wasn't really looking at what was going on in the lab until COVID happened.
	So then I find it's by PCR.
	And I start looking at, well, there's obviously this problem with false positives.
	Even Elon Musk was saying, I got two tests in one day.
	One of them was negative, one of them was positive.
	And I could see the hospital was running over and over and over these PCR tests, waiting to get a positive result if they didn't get the right result.
	And I'm like, this doesn't make any sense.
	What is going on here?
	And fast forward to like after the PCR test evolved a little bit toward the end of 2020 into 2021, they had what's called a PCR multiplex assay.
	So it was four different viruses they were actually monitoring: flu A, flu B, R S V, and COVID-19.
	And then the only one that ever came up positive out of a whole year of running all four of these viruses was COVID.
	Not one flu, not one RSV.
	And they say we have a RSV pandemic now.
	It's such an amazing thing.
	And you know, we go back and we used to play the clips all the time of Mullis calling out Fauci because you know, Fauci used the PCR test to claim that AIDS was caused by a virus.
	And that created a big back and forth between them.
	And Mullis said, Well, I'm not going to get involved in that fight, but I'll tell you this: that you can't prove it using the PCR test.
	It can't be used as a diagnostic like that.
	And so it was very interesting because they also did not isolate the HIV, you know, the virus that supposedly caused AIDS either.
	And so this whole thing has been kind of a bluff.
	What it reminds me of, Zoe, is the polygraph tests.
	My wife used to be a district personnel manager for convenience stores.
	And what they would do, if they would have massive shortages somewhere and they thought there was theft that was going on with the employees, they would call them in and polygraph them.
	And the polygraph did not work, but it only worked if people believed that it could tell them tell whether or not they were lying.
	And then they would tell the truth about it and make a confession, right?
	So it was simply a mind game that was being played on the people that were there.
	And that's exactly it.
	Yeah, that's what the PCR thing is.
	It really is a mind game, except that it's become something of a lie detector for the people who are administering it.
	We realize now that they are the liars who are putting this stuff out.
	I just had in a comment Lance put up my producer.
	He said that video of Lutnik where he's talking about that reminds him of this scene out of the big short, which we just went back and watched again because of the AI bubble.
	And at one point, this guy gets up and he's talking, and one of the guys who's onto the whole scam says, Why is he confessing?
	And the other guy says, he's not confessing.
	He's bragging.
	And that's basically what Lutnik was doing.
	He wasn't confessing about all this stuff.
	He was bragging about it.
	And he continues to get away with this kind of stuff.
	Truly is amazing.
	Yeah.
	Well, what's even more nefarious about the PCR test is so the false positive narrative that is only about the cycle threshold, but you're correct.
	They didn't actually sequence the they didn't sequence SARS-CoV-2.
	So they never had a sequence.
	They have what's called a consensus sequence, which is an average that an AI came up with.
	And that's what they use because they knew they would find this in a percentage of people.
	And then they could dial it in with the cycle threshold up or down.
	Same thing with the AIDS thing.
	They never isolated AIDS and they used their antibody tests at first, which could be dialed up or down in the same way as the cycle threshold.
	And David Raznik, PhD, who I've interviewed, can vouch for that.
	He's got all the science on his webpage to prove all that.
	But what I was looking past the cycle threshold because I knew this test is dialed in for some reason.
	Like they can predict the results somehow.
	And I needed to know how they were manipulating the test.
	And so I looked a little bit further and I find a document from the CDC that says for every COVID test, every CLIA-certified lab, which is all of them, they all have to be in order to build insurance or anything, have to be CLIA certified.
	Then they have to send a genetic sequence to one of two gene banks, either NCBI or GISAID gene banks.
	And it listed like eight different sequences.
	So they're saying, you know, the variance in the details.
	But if you look at some of these labs that were running PCR tests and making all the money off running these PCR tests, they could also take that same sample off that machine, put it on another machine, run a sequence.
	And they needed to in order to comply with the CDC's directive to send genetic sequences to these gene banks.
	And I interviewed David Raznik, who's a chemistry professor who worked with Kerry Molis and knew Kerry Molis.
	I asked him directly, do you think that they were just clipping a tiny little section of the genetic code and then sending it to these gene banks?
	Or do you think they were getting the entire sequence?
	And he says, well, they're running a lab.
	They're busy.
	They're not really thinking about, you know, taking the time to clip out a sequence.
	So could they?
	Yes.
	But would they really do that?
	No.
	It'd be so much easier for them to just send the whole thing and then let the gene bank decide which part that they want to determine is the variant of concern.
	Wow.
	So they were, and you look at the different gene banks.
	There's one called DataVance, which is now a public-private partnership.
	You look at the Human Genome Project, which is now BGI Genetics, I think, in China, which is their biggest biotech company.
	And there's billions of billions of dollars in collecting our DNA.
	And what they say they're using it for is to, and now we have Larry Ellison actually admitting it day two of the Trump administration, that they're going to use AI, which is what they use to get the consensus sequence that they dial the PCR test in with.
	They're going to use AI to look at our blood and then make a drug or a therapeutic or a vaccine tailored to our individual genome.
	And now there's a massive industry of all these big tech oligarchs that are using AI to develop different vaccines or different therapeutics, biotech therapeutics tailored to the individual genome.
	So whether or not they're successful with this technology, there's a whole bunch of money invested in it.
	So I think PCR was actually a data mining operation as well as a money laundering operation.
	That's interesting, yeah.
	And of course, if they want to make a bioweapon that is going to target certain groups of people, that makes it very easy to do that as well.
	You know, and when you look at the PCR, Handy, who also has a Substack and he's been a regular listener and commenter on the program, he worked in hospitals and he said he was suspicious of these things, finally got a nurse to take one of these swabs right out of the package and run it through and got a positive test without swabbing anybody.
	So some of these.
	Yeah, it was such garbage.
	I mean, either it's preloaded with something or the PCR test is just so off the charts with its magnification, whatever you can find anything anywhere, it's carry mullet.
	Well, didn't the president of Tanzania, I think he did some PCR tests on like a papaya and like a Coca-Cola and got positive results too?
	That's right.
	It's total nonsense and garbage.
	And I remember when they had the Khan Film Festival, it was in the summer of 2020.
	And you had all these elitists who somehow they got there, I guess, on their private jets and didn't have to get screened too much.
	But anyway, they're there and they were complaining that they had to do spit tests.
	They said, that's disgusting.
	We got to spit in this thing and they got to test it and so forth.
	I said, yeah, so why don't they allow us to do a spit test, right?
	They got to ram that thing up your nose.
	But you don't get that.
	But the elites, the jet setters, the private jets, they get the spit test or whatever.
	Oh my God, that's funny.
	All this stuff would just be.
	When I worked in the university lab, there was something called sputum testing, which is exactly that.
	You basically hawk a loogie into a cup.
	And like, it was the most disgusting sample I ever had to deal with when I worked in the lab.
	And I make a joke in my book, we all were spared that they didn't make that the test that we had to do.
	But you're telling me that's what the elites do.
	Yeah, I think that's preferable to having that thing ramroded up your nose.
	I guess I didn't have that done to me.
	So I went through the whole thing without having a PCR test.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Me neither.
	That was another reason why I walked out because if I were to stay in the hospital or stay working for them and get the exemption, then I was going to have to take a PCR test every week.
	And I didn't want to have to take a PCR test.
	I was pretty sure they were going to be collecting our DNA with it or sensing if we're vaccinated or not or somehow tying that in with the vaccine passport.
	I wasn't entirely sure how it's going to work, but I knew that it wasn't what they were telling us.
	And I wasn't about to play long.
	So that was another reason why I couldn't.
	And of course, there were other things too where some people did some, you know, zoomed in with a microscope looking at the tip of the swab and said, look at this.
	You know, here's one of the cotton swab and here's this PCR thing.
	It's got all these spikes on it.
	If I run it across some of these things, those spikes stick and stay.
	So are they actually implanting something into you?
	I did some research on it and I found there were two chemicals on the tip of the swab.
	One of them was ethylene oxide and that alone can like they were putting it way up in your nose where your pineal gland is your third eye, which is right at the top.
	So putting that chemical right there is known to cause cancer.
	And so the more you do it, the more carcinogenic it's going to be.
	And then it also has a chemical property where it will basically block and calcify your pineal gland.
	So it like closes your third eye.
	And it's also a way that your brain can sense light.
	It's how your body basically like synchronizes hormones throughout your whole body so it can like change your whole endocrine system if you set off your if you close or calcify your your pineal gland.
	So all sorts of things could happen just with that one chemical.
	But I think there was also graphene oxide on there.
	There were different schools that said they had been given these special masks even that had graphene in them similar, like the exact same phenomenon about the fibers that actually move and respond to magnetics.
	Well, graphene oxide has a magnetic property to it.
	That's why they wanted to use it.
	But it's also supposed to be clean.
	So they were saying like we're using this to make it antibacterial because it has antibacterial properties.
	But both the swabs and some of the masks had graphene fibers in them that could maybe do that.
	So if they can't inject no idea what that would do if you shove it up your nose over and over and over.
	So if they can't inject the graphene into you, they can get it in there another way.
	And of course, I've mentioned this many times too.
	There's a couple of different batches, each of them over a million of these shots in Japan.
	And they noticed that they were getting black particulates.
	I don't know if it happened because they didn't keep them at the super cold temperatures or whatever, but they noticed black participants in these particulates and they said they reacted with magnets.
	Yeah, so what is that?
	But they would end the story.
	No more talking about that.
	And the Japanese government threw away a couple million of these vaccines because of that type of thing.
	But yeah, there's just so many issues there.
	And people have been lied to so thoroughly about all this stuff.
	This is why it's not a dead issue.
	It is still alive.
	And they're going to try to do all this stuff again.
	And since it worked so well, they will use the same tactics again.
	That's why it's very important to talk about these different tactics.
	And that's what you're saying.
	They're using right.
	They're moving forward with the mRNA.
	I mean, they're not only putting it in our food, like we've probably heard, I'm sure your audience has heard about the bird flu and how they're doing the self-amplifying bird flu injections for poultry, and they're trying to get it in cattle.
	And they've had mRNA shots in pork.
	So almost all the pork is tainted now since like 2018.
	Now they're rolling it out for pets.
	So now when you go in, you try it, and you have to get your annual rabies shot for your pets.
	Now that's going to be mRNA.
	They're moving over to the mRNA platform for all the vaccines.
	So normies that who might be a little like cautious about COVID-19 because they've heard the rumors by now, most of them, but they haven't heard that now your RSV, your flu, and a lot of even like the childhood vaccines are moving over to this mRNA platform where they get to bypass clinical trials.
	So it still hasn't been, this is an experiment that is now being rolled out to all our vaccines under the guise of this is totally fine.
	This is normal science.
	We've totally tested this, but it's absolutely not.
	I mean, they even had for like three years.
	Yeah.
	For the first one, we just barely passed the first part of monitoring.
	That's right.
	And people need to understand that the guy who boasted about being the father of the vaccine, first things he did, as you pointed out, Stargate thing with Larry Ellison, where he's talking about, well, we're going to use AI to design, custom design this for your genetics, and then we will deliver it with an MRA platform.
	And the person that they put in as the, they chose to put in at the head of the CDC was Susan Monares.
	And that had been what she was working on with BARDA and with ARPA-H and these dark bioweapon companies that are part of the government and the military industrial complex and the bioweapon platforms and things like that.
	So there's all these different threads that tie this throughout the Trump administration, pushing mRNA for all these various things.
	And of course, then Brooke Rollins, who's the agricultural secretary, she decides on her own initiative that she's going to end this mass culling of chickens by authorizing the mRNA bird flu for chickens, and then they authorize it for other livestock as well.
	It is the signals are all there that this is all still going on, that Trump is right at the epicenter of all this mRNA stuff.
	And I guess what we could call now the mRNA I as an AI artificial intelligence is all connected together, isn't it?
	Absolutely.
	It's a giant web.
	And it is going to be tied to our behavior scores and if we comply, how much we comply with it.
	Looking at who's monitoring the DNA, where they have to report the PCR results to, who's hiding the adverse effects of the vaccine, putting that all together and looking at where are they actually, where are we reporting all of these PCR results and where are we reporting the COVID-19 case numbers.
	And now we actually have a code to report the COVID-19 adverse effects, but it's still not being used.
	So looking at that and trying to figure out where the code was and why we're not able to report it still, I happen to find that every agency involved in monitoring COVID-19 cases and vaccination tracking specifically, because there's so many vaccine registries, it blows your mind.
	It's tied to national security.
	Oh, yeah.
	So it's a matter of national security if you participate in this scheme or not.
	Yeah, this is all DARPA and it's all the military and the intelligence agencies and all of the dark winter stuff.
	They had, you know, Fauci and the former head of the CIA was playing the role of the president during the first germ game of Dark Winter.
	I mean, it's all the usual suspects that are involved in all this stuff.
	It really is a bioweapon that is really targeted to the population.
	And it truly is amazing.
	I think they're even going to try and do more data mining, like go even further than PCR testing with the wearables rollout that we're getting now.
	The information, like when I learned that our COVID-19 case numbers, the PCR test is actually getting reported to foreign countries and our DNA is being data mined and they're able to tell if we've had a vaccine or not, what's our ethnicity, where we are, how much money we make.
	Like they're layering all of this information.
	And during Operation Workspeed, they had a program called Tiberius, which was used in hospitals.
	There's different palantir programs that are used in hospitals to monitor and manage the hospital down to like staffing.
	There was even a program that was part of Operation Workspeed called HHS Protect.
	And the hospitals had to report how many ventilators were in use, how many patients were there.
	I don't know why my camera just stopped.
	That was weird.
	Well, I still have audio.
	Literally, just, I didn't do it.
	You're back.
	You're back.
	That's good.
	You're back.
	So they had this program that hospitals had to report how many ventilators, how many patients are in the ICU, how much rendesivir we were using, what's our census report, like all kinds of information that even the hospital didn't want to have to report in addition to all the other data mining we were doing.
	And that program was a Palantir program called Tiberius, which it's used in Gaza.
	And that's the one that they use to assign risk scores.
	Well, they used that here already in America during Operation Workspeed to figure out if you were vaccinated or not, to target different ethnic groups for vaccines, and then to figure out where the countermeasures, as in where did the ventilators need to go?
	Where did their rendesivir need to go?
	So they've already had these programs in place that are tied into our medical records.
	And then to hear Larry Ellison say, we're going to use your medical records and your DNA, your personal data, to design stuff directly to you.
	And then in addition, they say, we're going to put wearables on you.
	They're going to monitor your body at all times for the purposes of national security.
	And I don't know how that doesn't send shivers down the spine of every single citizen in this country.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I mean, we look at their big data thing.
	They have to have total information awareness.
	Remember how everybody was creeped out about that?
	And yet, that is what this really is, the implementation of this.
	The big data is looking at everything that you're doing, not just online, but they've got to get it out of cyberspace into physical space with all these other aspects of it.
	And companies like Palantir, they have been focused on geospatial intelligence and data mining and making all these, drawing all these conclusions about people's politics or religion and so forth, based just on even geospatial intelligence.
	When they get to additional factors like this, they know everything about you.
	And we're not allowed to know anything about what they do or the results.
	That's why it really is, at its essence, it is an information war.
	Because all the information is flowing in one direction, and they have an insatiable appetite to know everything about everybody.
	It is part and parcel of their control, this total knowledge about everyone and everything.
	And now AI and especially companies like Palantir have given them the ability to go through and collate this massive amount of data that they've been collecting for some time.
	Now they can make sense of it because it was so much information they've been collecting on people, they couldn't sort through it with humans.
	And so now they've got the AI that can sort through this.
	That is what's so concerning about all of this.
	It really is, because when you go on social media and you're fed an algorithm of like, which post do you get to see today, that's going to be how our whole lives are run.
	And I don't know how many people I've known complain about their algorithm.
	Oh, it's just, it's triggering me today, or I don't know why my algorithm's all screwed up and it's showing me blah, blah.
	Well, imagine if that same algorithm is now your government gets to make decisions about if you're a good person or not and if you get to go out today or if you get to eat today or if you get to use your money today.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Yeah, it's all about total control.
	And of course, that guy, lucky Lutnick, Howard Lutnick, who was bragging about how much money he could make knowing that the government was going to just flood cash into these pharmaceutical companies, now I can go in and I can make money off of that, right?
	So he's got this insider information.
	He's the guy that's going to be doing the new public-private version of a CBDC.
	And once they know all your financial transactions, all the rest, any part of this puzzle would give them pretty much total control over your life.
	But they've got so many different facets where they are monitoring and collating information about you that it truly is just overwhelming to even try to think about it.
	But again, it's the ignorance and the darkness that they have fooled everybody with.
	That's why it's so important what you're doing.
	And again, the site is thrillkillmedicalcult.com.
	And you're also on Substack.
	And people find that at zo.substack.com.
	And it's very important for people to use this information, try to wake people up as to what's going on.
	They've not only hidden stuff from people, but they have, in terms of inoculation, the one thing they've inoculated you against is the truth.
	And they've inoculated you against questioning what they tell people.
	And that's why you need to try to wake people up with sites like Zoe's as well.
	So is there anything else that you would like to hit?
	I just, if anyone is interested, I'm going to be doing a memorial for the people that we've lost to hospital protocols and vaccine injured, including women who may have had a stillbirth or a miscarriage due to the shock.
	So if you go to my website, there's a page called Vigil.
	And if you'd like to submit a name of a loved one, you don't have to tell us anything more, just the name of a loved one.
	You could even just put, you know, baby boy or baby girl if you like.
	And we're going to be lighting a candle in remembrance of your loved ones.
	So if you like, please go and submit a name and we will honor your lost.
	It's important.
	We cannot forget what they've done to us and we cannot forget those that they have killed.
	That's absolutely vital.
	Thank you so much for what you do.
	Again, Zoe Smith, her website is thrillkillmedicalcult.com and you can find her on Substack at zoe.substack.com.
	And she spells Zoe Z-O-W-E.
	Thank you so much for joining us.
	We'll take a quick break, folks, and we will be right back.
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	Well, let's take a look at the AI bubble.
	And of course, it's kind of interesting.
	SoftBank, you know, we were just talking about Stargate project with Larry Ellison and the bank that came in was this Japanese bank called SoftBank.
	They're very much invested in technology issues.
	And that was what Trump kicked off his second administration with.
	Well, SoftBank dumped every single share of NVIDIA.
	And that had an effect on the entire market, not just on NVIDIA stock.
	And remember, we talked about Michael Burry, the guy behind the who sussed out Big Short, who sussed out what was going on, the market, real estate market fraud and bubble.
	And he focused on shorting NVIDIA as well as Palantir.
	And so we've had a lot of big players and people who are very professional, very savvy, who are calling bubble.
	And so NVIDIA went down by 1.5% after SoftBank sold all of their shares.
	And then, of course, Palantir is also going down.
	And Palantir was really the biggest bet that Michael Burry of the Big Short put on.
	It was actually when he did the big short of over a billion dollars, which is like 80% of his company or his fund or whatever.
	So 84% of that short was Palantir.
	And 14% or 16% was the NVIDIA.
	And somebody put this up inverse Kramer.
	So they look at Kramer as being a contraindicator of what they should invest in.
	They said Jim Kramer remains undefeated.
	And so what they have there is a tweet that he put out as recently as the 29th of October.
	And he was saying, I'm taking my price target for Palantir from 200 to 250.
	Exclamation mark.
	Well, it went from 200 when he said that down to now about maybe 165 or 170.
	As I said, he remains undefeated, as always being the counter indicator of where things should go.
	And you know, when I look at all of this hype about AI robots that we got from Elon Musk last week and so many others, you know, the AI hype, the robotic hype and everything.
	This is Russia and their robot that they wanted to demonstrate.
	Again, we always hear about Russian bots, right?
	They're talking about AI that is putting out narratives on social media.
	But here's a literal Russian bot.
	And people's comments about this, it looks like they used a drunk to teach its robot how to walk.
	See how it's walking there?
	And watch what happens.
	Takes another couple of steps, and just like a drunk, it falls down on the side.
	Watch this, it's coming.
	staggering that goes down.
	So let's hope that that is a metaphor for robotics and for AI.
	Again, as I said last week, a lot of people are looking at this and they said, well, you know what?
	How does this end?
	Well, there's only two or three combinations of this that could go either the AI hype and the bubble bursts and takes down the economy big time or global economy big time or it is successful and it takes everybody's jobs.
	And I said, well, there's a third alternative that it is sustained by the governments who use it to control us.
	And I think that is true of both AI and robotics.
	I think that the best use case for all this stuff is tyranny and totalitarianism.
	Well, SoftBank dumped their entire NVIDIA stake, but they're not getting out of AI completely.
	So it's not a complete pushback against AI.
	They just decided that they would move from NVIDIA to some other platforms that are still involved in AI.
	And they had just under $6 billion stake in NVIDIA.
	And the guy who is the head of SoftBank, his name is Goto.
	I guess he's the GoTo guy, if he wants some tech capital.
	I can't say if we're in an AI bubble or not, said Goto, adding that the sale was for capital and can be utilized for our financing.
	So he's not going to say that we're in an AI bubble because he's got some other irons in the fire and he doesn't want to tank this thing.
	I can neither confirm nor deny that we are in an AI bubble.
	Yeah, but a lot of people have been confirming that.
	As a matter of fact, Zara Hedge pointed out and said, well, we've had four recent articles that are really must-read.
	Here's the headlines.
	The AI bubble watch out metric has just snapped.
	AI is now a debt bubble, too, quietly surpassing all banks to become the largest sector in the market.
	And Sam Altman denying open AI needs a government bailout.
	He just wants massive government subsidies.
	So yeah, we do the subsidy so we don't have to do the bailout.
	So it had an effect, of course, on NVIDIA, but also on a lot of different stocks.
	The futures slid down as AI jitters return.
	And yet, no matter how many people come out, no matter how many people who are large and connected come out against this, you still have the bubble continues to inflate.
	And another company was involved in that as well, Core Weave.
	They rent out access to the AI chips.
	And they had some interesting issues there and setbacks as well.
	But this article from Free Thought Project is very timely.
	They said, it is time to pay attention.
	Europe has just eviscerated monetary privacy, and it's going to be coming here to the United States next.
	They're basically starting down the path of banning all cash, state-run digital money.
	That's a law that has passed, and it goes live in only 400 days.
	And so they're going to make it criminal to pay cash for anything over 10,000 euros.
	But of course, that level is going to continue to come down.
	That's why you need to get into physical gold and silver.
	You've got to get out of this system.
	And that's what they're talking about.
	They have a lot of different alternatives in this Free Thought Project article.
	One thing they don't mention, strangely enough, is physical gold and silver.
	I think that is the simplest, easiest, most direct thing to essentially short the totalitarianism.
	That's what you need to be doing.
	Don't short the market.
	Short the totalitarianism.
	Go to DavidKnight.gold.
	I'll take you to Tony Arderman's Wise Wolf Gold.
	Have a good day.
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