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	In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
	It's the David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Thursday, the 9th of October, Year of Our Lord 2025.
	Well, we're going to take a look today at more at Trump's civic war.
	Will become a civil war.
	We have the courts considering the legality of this.
	We have officers who are looking at whether or not they should obey unlawful orders.
	We have states looking at the Tenth Amendment, and we have we the people looking at military martial law on the streets.
	And then as all this is happening, we have the EU and California ramping up the surveillance and the censorship.
	In the third hour, we're going to have an interview with James Bradley, the author of Flags of Our Fathers that was made into a movie by Clint Eastwood.
	He has another war book.
	This one is called Personal Freedom.
	It is a fictional narrative rather than a nonfiction book, as the others were.
	It's a fictional narrative of both sides of the Vietnam War.
	It should be very interesting to talk to him.
	He spent 10 years in Vietnam doing research for this book.
	Stay with us.
	We'll be right back.
	Well,
	again, Donald Trump is ramping things up, and you have to look at it and, you know, how much of this is theater, circus, and chaos, and how much of it is just really trying to push us into a fourth-turning conflict.
	But it is all setting up, regardless of what it is, it is setting up dangerous precedents.
	Yet again, and this is really has been Trump's role to set precedence.
	It's a precedent that destroys the Constitution, the rule of law, the separation of powers, and our civilian government.
	Trump has called for the jailing of the Chicago mayor, the Illinois governor.
	And this is a comment, uh commentary opinion piece from Mediaite.
	And I really agreed with it.
	It is an unprecedented assault on constitutional norms, on federalism, and on the rule of law.
	Yet the media's reaction in certain circles will almost certainly be muted.
	Absolutely should not be and cannot be.
	What's even worse about this, again, this is something that's uh published on a left-leaning site, is the the cheering that I see happening on the conservative sites.
	The announcement on truth on uh social on Wednesday said Chicago mayor should be in jail for failing to protect ICE officers.
	Governor Pritzker also.
	You know, we haven't had a president who went around jailing elected officials since Abraham Lincoln.
	Uh it is very disconcerting to see how Donald Trump is falling into the pattern of those other two disastrous fourth-turning presidents, Lincoln and FDR.
	Americans have become numb.
	Numb to insults, numb to threats, numb to authoritarian theater, masquerading his politics.
	Federal troops on state soil without the governor's consent.
	Well, that triggers the Posse Comitatus Act.
	That tests the insurrection act.
	That should make lawyers, historians, and journalists set up straight, but too often it doesn't.
	Too often it's just background noise.
	Trump's threat is more than personal theater.
	It is a blueprint for the normalization of authoritarianism.
	It is a public declaration that elected officials Can be bullied, criminalized, intimidated for political reasons.
	And the media, conditioned by years of pejorative outrage, risks failing to signal just how dangerous this is.
	And of course, when you look at elected officials being bullied, criminalized, intimidated for political reasons.
	This has been a left-right march with both Biden and now with Trump.
	And they hand the baton to each other and they take it to the next level, each of them escalating this.
	And I knew when this all was happening, I said Trump should de-escalate this.
	Yes, uh, people who did wrong should be prosecuted, but it should be seen as restoring the rule of law rather than uh taking it to the next level to show his personal power by bullying people and making it about a personal vendetta, but that's what it has become in many cases.
	And that's the way that he is uh responding to this as well.
	You know, he's gonna take a personal vendetta against other politicians who get in his way.
	I just have to say, and repeat it over and over again, when you look at these people, and you look at like Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Dan Bodnino, these people who are uh telling lies for Trump and doing all kinds of things to support him.
	Um the Supreme Court has said that the executive has some immunity, not them.
	And so we'll see what happens to them.
	They may be uh hoisted by their own petard, so to speak, in the coming years.
	Reporters must explain why this is not politics as usual, why this is not a rhetorical flourish, why it is a breach of constitutional norms.
	Headlines like Trump ramps up his rhetoric or chaos in Chicago do a disservice to readers and viewers.
	The public deserves context and clarity.
	They deserve a sense of the stakes involved.
	History will judge how journalists respond.
	Will we recognize this for what it is?
	A direct assault on the democratic order, or will we shrug and move on?
	And I have to say, I don't know who this guy is, it's writing for media.
	But um the uh who did that, you know, did we just shrug and move on from the COVID stuff?
	That was a huge precedent.
	And so many cases, everybody everywhere, even the people who recognized how awful it was and how counterproductive it was, how it destroyed our economy, killed people, uh, set new precedents for government power.
	A lot of those people still just walked away.
	Certainly the politicians did because they all had a hand in it.
	They're not going to come after each other.
	But uh it's amazing to me how people just walked away and shrugged their shoulders.
	Gladys over, huh?
	Trump's call to jail, the governor and the mayor, is uh not just a provocation, it is a warning.
	And it is a test of the media's courage.
	And so was 2020.
	Uh I I don't know, like I said, I don't think these people had anything at all to say about that.
	So um, again, uh the truth social that got all the headlines yesterday, uh, comes as his administration faces legal challenges by officials to block the deployment of National Guard to Chicago and other urban areas.
	Hundreds of troops from the Texas National Guard gathered at Army Training Center in Illinois on Tuesday, despite objections from local officials.
	Pritchar said, I will not back down.
	Trump is now calling for the arrest of elected representatives.
	Uh and um Tuesday, Pritzer took a jab at Trump, an event in Minneapolis, saying that the president is deploying the units because he's out of his mind and has dementia.
	No, that's not it.
	That's not it.
	It's much worse than that.
	He's this is like giving him an excuse like, well, he was fooled by these people.
	You know, he was it was a deep state fooled him in 2020.
	No, it's not he wasn't fooled.
	It's not dementia.
	This is his character.
	This is his personality.
	And um we should not be offering ridiculous excuses like that.
	It's kind of like those uh miss meet things.
	Remember when the president was just senile?
	That's right.
	It was much worse than senile.
	This is uh it's absolutely insane.
	Uh this is a man who has something stuck in his head, and he can't get it out of his head.
	He doesn't read, he doesn't know anything up to date.
	It's just something in the recesses of his brain that is effectuating to have him call out these cities.
	Unfortunately, he has the power of the military, the power of the federal government to do his bidding, and that is what he is doing.
	So uh that part of it, I think, is correct.
	He said he's not had any conversations with his staff or other Democrat governors regarding a so-called soft secession.
	A political and legal theory that has grown during Trump's second term, in which Democrat states would gradually withdraw their cooperation with the federal government, including withholding financial support without formally leaving the union, which would really set these uh these guys off.
	Like I said, you know, when Marjorie Taylor Green talks about sign for a national divorce, just understand that you're married to an abusive, violent maniac who will try to kill you if you divorce him.
	That's the federal government.
	That's our federal head, if you will.
	Uh it's um it truly is insane the time that we live in right now.
	But that that's the issue.
	This violates the law of the Constitution, and hopefully the Supreme Court will call this down.
	But uh it's very important the principles of separation of power and of the Tenth Amendment, and we even have some Republican senators who are making that point now, as afraid as they are of Trump.
	And I gotta say, you know, the way that you handle a bully is not to keep bowing to him.
	Somebody's got to walk up and punch him in the face rhetorically.
	And uh hope some of these senators do.
	They're starting to get the courage to take a swing at him every once in a while, but uh they don't really land a punch.
	Uh the last time the Insurrection Act was invoked was by George H. W. Bush during the LA riots in '92.
	And that's the kind of thing that you would expect, right?
	Uh if you've got a city that is uh uh it's burning, but these are not yeah, crime is high in these areas.
	But again, that's something for the people to handle, and if they don't want to handle it, as uh we were talking about yesterday, Travis.
	You know, it's it's like trying to send uh some trying to send the U.S. military into Iraq to make order out of it or Afghanistan when uh the people there don't want it.
	They don't want democracy, they uh don't care about having it enough to fight for it.
	Um that was with the support of the California governor at the time, Pete Wilson.
	It was also used in Chicago in 1968 by LBJ to curb rioting there over the assassination of Martin Luther King and uh the backing of uh Mayor Daly there, but um uh for the uh acting governor Samuel Shapiro.
	So both the mayor and the governor supported that.
	Those are riots that uh were part of the convention, the Democrat Convention uh leading up to it.
	It's one of the reasons why LBJ did not run again.
	But again, these are massive riots in a city.
	The last time it was invoked over the opposition of a sitting government was in governor was in 1965, when Johnson used it to federalize troops to protect civil rights marchers in Montgomery, Alabama, over the objections of segregationist uh George Wallace.
	And of course, um the uh violence done against the marchers in Montgomery, Alabama was how Morris Dees got involved, the guy of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	Not that he came after the Ku Klux Klan.
	Morris Deese represented the Ku Klux Klan who was burning the buses and beating the protesters.
	That's where Morris Deast, the Southern Poverty Law Center founder, that's how he got started in this.
	And after he defended the Ku Klux Klan, he started doing direct mail for about a decade, and then out of that grew the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	Eisenhower also famously invoked the fifth the act in 1957 to order the Arkansas National Guard to stand down from its orders from the governor uh at the time to prevent segregation of Little Rock's public schools following the Supreme Court's Brown versus Board of Education ruling.
	Eisenhower also deployed the Army's 101st Airborne Division to protect the black students who are attending classes.
	So the two times that we have had in recent history, say the last uh century, where we've had the president overruling the governor has been uh to protect uh civil rights uh there.
	And this is uh, and then we've had a couple of situations where they've had the insurrection act That was uh uh done to stop rioting in Chicago or LA.
	This doesn't match any of those types of things.
	It's a completely separate category.
	It's a very important and dangerous precedent.
	GOP senators are increasingly anxious about Trump's aggressive use of the National Guard.
	Uh Republican senators uh said that um uh the conflict between federal and state authorities has escalated dramatically over the weekend.
	Uh Trump moved to send National Guard soldiers to Illinois and Oregon, despite opposition from their governors.
	His use of the military force was all the more controversial because of a Trump-appointed federal judge in Oregon.
	Uh that was the one that he appointed when he was there previous term, has said this violates the Tenth Amendment.
	Senate Republicans now want to support Trump's efforts to crack down on ill illegal immigration, but they said the president's actions are raising alarming questions about states' rights.
	No, states do not have rights.
	States have powers.
	Let's understand that.
	Institutions do not have rights.
	The federal government doesn't have any rights.
	The state doesn't have any rights.
	People have rights.
	Why?
	Because we're created in the image of God.
	Uh humans have rights.
	States do not, institutions do not.
	I hate to see that term, states' rights.
	But they have powers and those powers are there to prevent the consolidation of power.
	And if Trump is about anything, he is about consolidation of power.
	Very much like FDR.
	That should very much concern you.
	And look, these as as we had the interview yesterday with the uh the author who did the FDR biography, FDR political life.
	And um, you know, as we're talking about that, you you could see that there are a lot of Democrats who had opposed FDR restructuring the government and violating the Constitution.
	Even though they agreed with what he wanted to accomplish, at that time they understood that the end does not justify the means.
	And the question is, are we going to have any Republicans who will understand that?
	And will we have any Republicans who uh are not overcome with fear about Trump point of uh focusing on them and becoming a target of intimidation like Trump.
	So they have questions about states, let's just say powers, presidential authority, and the precedent of deploying National Guard troops across state lines.
	Um Tillis, who I'm not a fan of.
	This this is the this is a thing.
	Um, again, this has made some very strange bedfellows for us.
	And you have to look at this and say, when you see that you're on the same side with some of these people, wait a minute, am I wrong about this?
	Uh they're on this side in many cases simply because they oppose Trump.
	Not necessarily because they got the principles right, but they can say the right things.
	And I said this is one of the things that is uh concerning, is the fact that Trump is making heroes out of people like the Chicago mayor and the Illinois governor who are hardcore uh uh bad people, wrong on pretty much every issue.
	I mean, these people are collectivists, socialists, uh you name it.
	And Tom Tillis is also somebody that I have uh not uh supported for a very long time, a Republican, Senator from North Carolina.
	He said, if you look at this particular issue, I don't see how you can argue that this comports with any sort of conservative view of states' rights.
	And again, this is somebody who, um, even though he's Republican, he's not a conservative.
	And he has uh declared that he's not gonna be running for re-election.
	So it's safe for him to come out and criticize Trump.
	Uh and then you have uh some of the other people who come out to criticize Trump are people who are trying to, I think, more than anything, if they're gonna stay in.
	You got people like Murkowski and Collins, other liberal Republicans who just want to get some space between them and Trump because he's so toxic.
	And so they live in uh states that are not heavily Republican, and they got to maintain a little bit of distance from Trump.
	So it works out for them to criticize him.
	Lisa Murkowski said she's worried about the precedent of sending National Guard members from one state To another, despite the objections of those states' governors.
	It's one thing if a governor asks and says, Hey, I need help.
	She said, But I'm concerned, I'm very apprehensive about the use of our military for policing, and more the politicization that we are seeing within the military.
	This is not the role of our military.
	She said, fellow Republican senators don't want to clash with the president.
	But that they're also sympathetic to states' rights.
	Again, they're afraid of precedent Trump.
	And again, it is the state's power as defined by the Tenth Amendment.
	It even says those powers are not delegated to the federal government, not those rights.
	There's a complete misreading, and you know, we've seen people like Obama say the Bill of Rights is really there as negative rights.
	No, it's there's restrictions against the government.
	The government doesn't have any rights.
	And so it's important.
	Words mean things, and these concepts mean things, and we need to keep clarity about this.
	The difference between rights and privileges and rights and powers make all the difference in the world.
	One Republican senator who requested anonymity.
	They see they're afraid of Trump.
	So that Trump's attempts to circumvent restrictions on his deployment of National Guard troops in Democrat states raises quote questions.
	I think he's just poking his finger in their eye, said the Senator.
	Well, you know, he's poking his finger in the eye of the Constitution.
	He's poking his finger in the Bill of Rights.
	He has nothing but contempt for the Bill of Rights.
	He's nothing but contempt for due process and for the rule of law and for individual rights.
	And so of course he doesn't care about the Tenth Amendment either.
	Oregon Senator Ron Wyden, a Democrat, uh noted the judge was confirmed with strong bipartisan support, the judge who is opposing him.
	She was appointed by Trump, but then got bipartisan support.
	He said there's no question that the Trump administration flouted Emmer Gutz's Saturday order.
	Senator Rand Paul said he's not a fan of deploying federal troops into American cities, but he argued that there is a supremacy of federal authority when it comes to protecting federal property.
	Well, still, uh the federal government is specifically prohibited from uh suppressing peaceful demonstrations.
	And so when we look at this uh uh these snipers on the roof of the ice building, again, as we pointed out, uh this is not uh something that um this happened a couple of uh uh was it a week or so ago, I think it was.
	But here's the video.
	I showed you the pictures of these guys up on the roof shooting down from the top of the roof at people who were hollering at them.
	You know, that's allowed in a form of government.
	Right there, okay, we'll we'll play that again.
	Right there, you see there's a guy in black, he's got his hands lifted up.
	He was a priest in a collar.
	He said he was offering a prayer, and they shot him right there, shot him in the face with a pepper ball.
	Uh that's uh that's your government right there.
	So um anyway, so that's protecting their federal authority, is it?
	Protecting their federal property.
	I'm sorry, that doesn't cut it.
	Also have the other video of the sniper shooting down at the protesters.
	Yeah, go ahead and play that.
	Yeah, there they are up there.
	Uh they're up there shooting back and ever bullets down at this crowd, and they said name their shit.
	They're just standing there flipping them off.
	You are allowed to peacefully protest.
	And redress your grievances.
	Well, they were blocking some vehicles from getting in there.
	Well, you know, you can uh move them from there, but um uh it's all about the amount of force that you use, isn't it?
	Let's say that people are blocking the vehicle and you decide you're just going to run over them with your MRAP.
	Would that be justified?
	It would be to Breitbart, it would be to W and D, it would be to people like Mike Huckabee, who cares, right?
	You're my way, get out of here.
	You don't count, you're not human.
	Well, uh, anyway.
	Uh Rand Paul criticized Democrat mayors for supporting soft on crime policies, which he argued have triggered federal intervention.
	I think that we can say that the soft on crime stuff cuts both ways, and I think it's been going on for quite some time.
	I think both the federal government as well as local governments have been releasing dangerous criminals over and over again.
	So why don't we start before we start um uh the the police the militarized police brutalizing pe people on the street?
	Why don't we first start trying to fix the courts and do some bureaucratic um adjustments here?
	Look at Chicago, the murder capital of the U.S. People live in utter despair, and they voted for the Democrats for seventy years, said Rand Paul.
	It's right for the president to point out and to try to offer help.
	I think the Democrats would be better off actually accepting this help.
	Yeah, but he's not right to force it, that's the whole point.
	He's not offering to help.
	He is uh demanding that he's going to go in there.
	Because this is about a personal vendetta.
	And anybody understands that that looks at this.
	Uh he's going to go in and make Chicago safe for democracy.
	Remember that clip where you had the big militarized raid on the apartment building, and uh there was a lady that lived there, and she said, you know, she's a Chicago resident, and of course they've got a lot of violence, but she says the first time that a gun was stuck in her face.
	And that took the federal government to do that.
	And throw flashbangs and apartments where kids are and take the kids out and put them in um the uh zip tie handcuffs to separate them from their parents.
	Susan Collins, uh a moderate, who's up for re-election next year, a Democrat leaning state, and so it's it's easy for her to come out and uh try to put some space between her and Trump.
	It's necessary for her to do this.
	She pointed to Chicago's crime problem and her sky in the sky high murder rate, but she said deploying National Guard troops works much better when the governor is in concert with the president.
	You know, I think everything would work much better if we were in concert with the Constitution.
	How about that?
	Senate Majority Leader John Thune, uh, Republican, told reporters Monday that he was briefed on the deployment of California and Texas Guard troops.
	He said, if there are federal personnel who are threatened, then I think the president has a right to protect them.
	But he said he expects the Trump administration to follow the judge's rulings, noting district court rulings will be appealed to the appellate courts and perhaps to the Supreme Court.
	So that's where we are, folks.
	It's a very dangerous time.
	Uh not only is it a foreturning, but this is the types of things that you would expect to see in fourth turning.
	It's the type of stuff that we saw with Abraham Lincoln, unfortunately.
	And it's the kind of stuff that we saw in a more in a less confrontational way.
	Behind the scenes, FDR was doing it.
	But uh Trump is in the face of people.
	And so uh that's the difference, you know, when you have a uh complete restructuring of government like FDR did.
	Or if you just want to get in people's face, you can have a civil war.
	See a comment here from Guard Goldsman.
	Good to see you, Guard, Liberty Conspiracy.
	He says, I'm anxious to know how an act, the so-called insurrection act, supersedes an article in the Constitution.
	It's not possible, Trump.
	Yes, that's right.
	That's right.
	Whenever they create, you know, it's a we got this law, we have this act or whatever.
	Well, it's always subject to what the Constitution says, and when you overturn the very straightforward, simple things in the Constitution, as uh Trump has done over and over again.
	I I've never seen in my lifetime a uh president who has more open contempt for it.
	I mean, when the Democrats ignore the Constitution, they'll always do something like, well, you know, I really support the second amendment, but I don't support this particular thing here or that gun there, you know.
	And so we see the hypocrisy with it.
	But Trump just comes out and says, nah, we don't want to I can do any of this stuff I want to.
	Uh Trucker Chris for the win says, I can see Trump using troops to stifle protests against wars for Israel.
	Oh yeah, well, I mean, he isn't that far from it, right?
	He's used the economic thing right now, which is what MAGA didn't want to uh say that he was involved in any of the COVID stuff.
	It was all about the money.
	It's the same type of thing he's doing to Harvard and other colleges that are allowing free speech protests on their campus.
	Uh It was always about the money.
	But if the money doesn't work, uh you'll get the jack boot and the fist in the face.
	So you want to take that one, Travis?
	Yeah, defy Tyrant 1776.
	The states created the cancerous federal government, they can abolish it, and they should.
	Yes, yes.
	So, you know, the question is well uh uh will there'd be a blowback against Trump, or people just kind of sheepishly go along.
	So far, uh the Republicans are just sheepishly going along.
	They need to stand up and do the right thing.
	Uh, because if they don't, we're gonna be going into an authoritarian government brought on by a civil war, in my opinion.
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	Well, I want to talk about AI, and I'm not talking about artificial intelligence.
	I'm talking about artificial integrity.
	Uh, this is what we're saying from Pam Bondi and from Cash Patel and the rest of these people in the Trump administration.
	Artificial integrity.
	Uh Pam Bondi having a full meltdown over simple questions about Trump, and I played some of the back and forth uh of that uh yesterday.
	I won't repeat those, but to um uh she went for the jugular and went for ad hominem attacks of people.
	Even the absurdity of saying to uh one of the individuals, well, you got donations from a guy who uh hung around with Jeffrey Epstein.
	He didn't come back at her.
	He could have said, uh, you work for a guy who is his best friend for fifteen years who knows what they were up to.
	But um anyway, she is uh uh simply um uh has has lost all credibility I think.
	They like going for ad hominem attacks, but they're never very good at them.
	I could give them a lesson.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	You want to see so her her uh approach was to uh you know to fight back and um uh and and yet again when you look at this and you look at the statements when these guys go before Congress they've got to be looking over their shoulder at at uh the charges they're brought against James Comey.
	Uh but I think that it's kind of interesting I think that the uh the Trump administration doesn't think they're going to win that case.
	If you look at the people that they brought in they couldn't find any prosecutors in the district that wanted to do that.
	And actually he brought in to run this prosecution he brought in his own personal lawyer Trump did who has never done any trial work whatsoever.
	Certainly not as a prosecutor or as a defender.
	She has been an insurance lawyer or something.
	And um so uh they don't even have any experienced people I guess anybody who has experienced doesn't want to end their career on this hill it's uh it's pretty amazing.
	And and the the fact that this is all about optics and politics and theatrics was kind of uh admitted by Cash Patel you can't pin Cash Patel down on anything.
	Uh that should be a warning flag that the guy's got no integrity when he won't give you a straight answer.
	And so you know he was there for hours beating around the bush and giving partial answers to people and clever studied evasive answers uh even to the extent that when they asked him did you fire somebody because they wouldn't do a purple come he goes well people have to do what they're told and if they don't they're dismissed.
	He wouldn't answer the question but in a sense he did.
	So um here's a bit of an ad hominem cash is as crooked as his nose is every time I see a picture of him he looks like he's he's stunned you know he's got the headlights it's kind of like Adam Shift is the same way you know both of them look it look like they're constantly surprised you know and stunned what's going on anyway um uh when you look at this um what they're doing with Epstein it's not fooling anybody and the longer they do this the deeper the hole that they're digging.
	Ty Cobb who at one point in time was Trump's lawyer when the law fair was absurd against him he brought in Ty Cobb and uh he says that Bondi is the most reprehensible attorney general in US history.
	Well, certainly in my lifetime, I guess.
	And that's saying something, because we've had some real stinkers that have been out there.
	He was on CNN, and he said...
	I mean, hold on.
	When you think about it, though, it's a mixture of two words.
	Attorney.
	Attorneys are reprehensible, evil, wicked.
	General.
	Most of our generals are reprehensible, evil, and wicked.
	And they merge these two things.
	And so now, you know, you get some of the worst people imaginable.
	I don't know.
	There might be some good attorneys and some generals, but she's generally bad as an attorney, I think.
	Referencing Bondi's testimony, he said, I think we saw today from the Attorney General how low the representatives of the Justice Department are.
	Department will go.
	So she said um he said uh she said Aaron Burnett was interviewing him she said what did you make of Bondy today?
	The point of her presentation clearly was to show disgust and disregard right is that what she wanted to convey is that why she was just going with all these personal attacks and he goes uh because this is what she conveyed have you seen something like that before he said never I think today she achieved one thing she knocked John Mitchell off the perch of reprehensible attorney generals as number one despite his guilty plea and his time in jail.
	In other words you know what they're criticizing her for is that she's acting like Trump.
	You know she's decided that uh rather than having a cordial exchange and a disagreement over issues or whatever uh she's just going to come out swinging personally against people.
	Where'd she learn that from her boss?
	He added she tried to mislead the MAGA faithful with regard to Epstein by saying well we'll try to get the grand jury minutes knowing that there was nothing in the grand jury minutes that would shed any light on this it's all just a game of deception he said.
	This is basically designed to affect the credibility of various institutions.
	The Justice Department or the and the Congress today.
	The lack of respect that's being shown for the institution that have driven America to the leadership of the world is shocking, he said, but it is right out of the authoritarian handbook.
	So uh again, what is going on with Marjorie?
	Ask Trump.
	He's getting concerned because he is losing reliable allies over the key issues, and this is going to be the defining point.
	You know, it's uh it's an integrity test, like I said.
	Is there going to be artificial integrity?
	We have seen that from uh Cash Patel from Dan Bongino from Pam Bondi.
	But I think when you look at um certainly Thomas Massey, and we're starting to see it from Marjorie Taylor Green, starting to stand up for some principles, even if they have to stand against Trump.
	And of course, if you're going to stand for principles, you will have to stand against Trump.
	So um he's very concerned about it.
	You know, she's been, you know, the person's been on my side, and so now what is going on with Marjorie, he puts out uh says on on the report from NBC News.
	Uh Green said, I'm not some sort of blind slave to the president.
	I don't think anyone should be.
	I serve in Congress, we're a separate branch of government, and I'm not elected by the president.
	I'm not elected by anyone that works in the White House.
	I'm elected by my district.
	That's who I work for.
	I got elected without the president's endorsement, and you know, I think that has served me really well.
	So I get to be independent as a Republican, she said, and I think what helps Trump the most is when he have has people who are willing to be honest with him, not just tell him what they think he wants to hear.
	So um, according to MBC correspondent uh uh Melanie Zanona, she said Green has become disillusioned with the Republican Party, uh, because the White House discouraged her bid to run for the U.S. Senate.
	I don't think it's that.
	I think it is uh the Epstein stuff, and I think it's some of this other stuff.
	How can anybody with an ounce of integrity look at Trump and what he's doing and just go along with it?
	Um so uh most of these Republicans are spineless jellyfish.
	Uh once a loyal foot soldier for Trump, Marjorie Taylor Greene is increasingly bucking her party.
	This is from MBC News.
	So um again, this is a good thing.
	I hope that um this is a growing opportunity for her, and um if she can get past the um uh the partisan loyalty uh and start to focus on representing the people in her district, that would be very good.
	Uh but um uh that's not what we're seeing from people like Mike Johnson.
	They're going just the opposite way.
	And also uh Cash Patel fires agents involved in spying on the GOP senators.
	Uh the FBI ought to be fired, that's the real issue, right?
	We they're protecting these institutions, and these institutions have been corrupt from the very beginning.
	If you go back and look at what Jay Garhoover was, if anybody that thinks that the FBI has any integrity, uh just doesn't know their history.
	The whole thing was set up as a uh a personal gestapo for this guy, and uh that's what Truman said, and he knows what Gestapos are because he's he's the guy who created the National Security State, the CIA and the uh NSA.
	And when he says that the FBI is a gestapo, uh you ought to listen to him.
	He knows Gestapos and he eternally likes them, but he didn't like uh the FBI.
	So uh this is uh what was interesting about this was the outrage of Lindsay Graham uh to find out that the FBI under the Democrats was targeting him and paying attention to him, and he's he just lost it.
	I mean, it's like uh he he's ready to go to war.
	I know Lindsay's always ready to go to war, but he's ready to go to war with uh the FBI so Cash Patel.
	Makes you wonder what the FBI might have on good old Lindsay.
	That's right.
	Well, they uh they tapped into uh uh the personal cell phones for eight Republican senators, and uh one member of the House was also impacted.
	Uh and so uh when you look at this, um we have a video in the deck of it.
	Yeah, let's play that.
	Thank you.
	Here it is.
	He may be a Russian agent or Carter Page that is now no longer reliable.
	How does that not get to the court?
	Can you tell me how that doesn't get to the court?
	You can't, can you?
	I can't, Senator.
	And I can't.
	Can you tell me why my phone records?
	When I'm the chairman of the judiciary.
	How dare you spy on me?
	I'm a senator.
	You're supposed to spy on the little people.
	Agents.
	Why did they ask to know who I called and what I was doing from January 4th to the 7th?
	Can you tell me that?
	No, Senator, and there were eight senators in total.
	Well, there you go.
	See, they're special.
	He wasn't really too upset about what they're doing in all the January the sixth people, but now they do that kind of stuff to him, trying to investigate him.
	Well, it was Lindsey Graham.
	Funny, I've never seen a senator get that upset about surveillance of Americans before.
	Just one American in particular, but they don't care.
	And you know, these guys, Lindsey Graham was there uh when James Clapper was asked by Ron Wyden, you know, are you are you eavesdropping on Americans uh and you search and surveilling them without a warrant?
	Well, not intentionally, Senator, right?
	And that was a lie because it was less than a month later that we had the Snowden documents released, and everybody could see what they were doing deliberately.
	And you just accidentally created this giant surveillance state.
	We don't know how it happened.
	For f for uh the five years, I think it is.
	Uh yeah, five years.
	They did nothing.
	Lindsey Graham and none of these senators, uh, some of them were not in Congress at that time.
	Tommy Tubberville wasn't in there at the time, but um, none of these senators like Lindsey Graham, who were there at the time, ever wanted to come after James Clapper for lying to Congress.
	And so this is what you get.
	And I said this for the longest time.
	I said, these people in Congress, these politicians who sit there and do not defend us against the surveillance state, will find that they are valuable targets.
	Uh they're going to be the ones who are singled out for this stuff.
	Uh so Senator Lindsey Graham, South Carolina, Bill Haggerty, Tennessee, Josh Hawley, Missouri, Dan Sullivan, Alaska, Tommy Tubberville, Alabama, uh, Ron Johnson, Wisconsin, Cynthia Lumis of Wyoming, I think it's Loomis, maybe, Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, and Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania.
	They were the ones who were singled out.
	And um, they have the uh in the article, they have the FBI uh order there and heavily redacted as well.
	Um as well.
	He said, Biden's FBI, spied on my phone calls and tracked my location.
	Yeah, like I was some kind of a American citizen or something.
	But they didn't stop there.
	They also targeted parents, pro-lifers, and 92 conservative organizations like Charlie Kirk's TPA USA.
	We need a thorough investigation, and there needs to be prosecutions.
	Well, you need to get rid of the FBI.
	It served us very well when uh for uh until the early 20th century we didn't have an FBI.
	We don't need an FBI.
	And uh uh these people have abused their power constantly.
	How many times do they have to be caught before you do something about it?
	Trump wants to overhaul the drug sales and a company tied to his son stands to benefit.
	That's another kind of integrity, kind of integrity that people don't care about, the open graft and corruption, just as he's trying to cr openly create chaos and conflict, he's also openly involved in graft and corruption.
	Uh so these are family members of his and of Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik, you know, Lucky Lutnick.
	The country's top drug makers are set to meet in early December at the Four Seasons Hotel in Georgetown with Trump Jr. and senior Trump administration officials that regulate the pharmaceutical industry.
	Blink RX, an online prescription drug delivery company that this year installed Trump Jr. as a board member.
	So I guess uh Blink R X you could think of it as Trump RX Jr.
	The summit will conclude with a dinner at the executive branch, the exclusive new club formed by Trump Jr. and his close friends, the club that you ain't in, you know.
	According to people with knowledge of the event and a copy of the invitation viewed by the Wall Street Journal.
	So why doesn't America care about Trump's craft?
	Why don't they care about anything that he seems to do?
	And unfortunately, most of the people who do care are so torqued out about his personality that they only focus on that, and it becomes an ad hominem attack rather than an attack on the issues, which are the really important thing.
	It says, just when you thought the Hollywood community had proved they were standing together to pressure Disney to restore Jimmy Kimmel to his platform.
	American comedians Kevin Hart, Aziz Ansari, and Pete Davidson showed up with their acts in Saudi Arabia for the Riyadh Comedy Festival.
	It's easier to talk here than in America, said uh Dave Chappelle, who was also there.
	So uh this is the left complaining about people who went I understand, you know, who went to Saudi Arabia to tell jokes, but the left doesn't like I don't know if the if it's the fact that the left doesn't like jokes or if they don't like the Saudis who uh chopped up uh Khashoggi.
	Maybe call A call B. Yeah, that's a little bit of both these things.
	Well they're really outraged about that.
	So yeah, it's um they're complaining about the integrity of comedians.
	Um when you have uh this uh comedian in the White House who is um doing all this stuff.
	So uh we'll leave it there when we come back.
	We're going to talk about what is happening with gold a little bit because it's very interesting the background that's there, and it's run up so quickly.
	It truly is astounding how much it's gone up in the last year.
	Is it ready to uh is it overbought?
	Is it ready to fall down?
	We're gonna take a look at that as well as with silver.
	We have some comments here.
	We've got Steve Evs or Stevs.
	Hey, a new ballroom coming soon.
	How do we get along this long without one?
	Can we go there?
	No.
	Guard Goldsmith.
	Constitutionally, the insurrection act isn't appropriate for riots only if the federal courts slash ports are threatened, then it's under necessary and proper to protect federal courts under Militia Act 1792.
	Yes, the militia act was each.
	Well, you know, when we when we talked about the riots, though, the that was relevant in the sense that the governors asked for help from the National Guard to control this.
	Even in LA, right?
	What do we have in LA?
	We had Daryl Gates, the chief of police there.
	He was the one who was really taking the lead in terms of militarizing police.
	He's the one who came up with the whole thing of SWAT teams.
	He was the one who first started putting in militarized vehicles.
	And then what happened when the riots began?
	He used it to circle the uh city government buildings and things like that, but not to protect businesses and not to quell the riots, used it to protect themselves.
	And so you had the officials asking for the uh the National Guard to help them.
	Uh so yes, I agree.
	I don't think that uh uh that Trump should unilaterally be able to do anything.
	But he his m everything that he does, whether it's an economic thing, whether it's gun control, whatever it is.
	This is an emergency, and so now that it's an emergency, I can do whatever I want.
	Yeah.
	Guard Goldsmith, the Militia Act was the excuse Washington used on the whiskey makers in PA.
	Mm-hmm.
	KWDs rebellion.
	Yeah.
	KWD68, FDR belongs to Woodrow Wilson, LBJ, Carter, and Trump and the Bushes and Nixon.
	Oh, never mind.
	There are too many for Mount Rushmore of pathetic.
	Yeah.
	Citizen of Maricaca, yeah, those paintballs sting.
	They'll get underneath the skin at close range.
	Citizen Americaca.
	Now they want to outlaw bumper stickers, David, because it's making the road too violent.
	You having that freedom of speech to have a bumper sticker and all.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the blame road rage on the bumper stickers.
	Uh yeah, I put up that comment about the paintballs a minute ago, to be clear.
	That is pepper balls.
	They aren't just paintballs that are filled with uh something to irritate.
	That's right.
	Yes.
	KWD68 MTG sounds suicidal.
	Might have to issue a statement here soon.
	Oh, actually, she did, yeah.
	Brandon Grateful Baptist, please pray for me.
	Today I decided to get off of opioid medication, and I'm gonna go through a true hell On Earth.
	For about ten days, I'll be as close to hell as a human can be on Earth.
	I have God.
	I'm so sorry to hear that.
	But yes.
	Please pray for Brandon Grateful Baptist.
	Yes.
	God pray that God will meet you in that.
	And try to get you off of that.
	What what a plague drugs have become.
	And again, that's another point there.
	That's the legal drugs, right?
	And um most of the stuff has come from the pharmaceutical companies or the CIA or whatever.
	But uh it has to be your choice to make that, and it is a spiritual thing, and so uh Brandon, we pray that God will give you strength in this spiritual fight.
	It is a medical issue, it is a spiritual issue to try to get off of these drugs.
	It's not a law enforcement issue.
	That's the thing that does not really make any difference.
	It just makes things worse.
	Uh so where you had one problem before, now you've got multiple problems once you do prohibition.
	We're going to take a quick break, folks, and we'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	Elvis.
	And the sweet sounds of Motown.
	Find them on the oldies channel at APSradio.com.
	Well, Tony Arteman of Wise Wolf is unable to join us today.
	Uh, but uh there's been a lot of news about gold, of course, and now it is crossed that magic psychological barrier of four thousand dollars an ounce.
	Uh a record high, uh yet another record high.
	And it was less than a week ago that Goldman Sachs was kind of conservatively saying that uh, well, I think we'll get to four thousand by second quarter of next year.
	And so here we are, less than a week later, it happened, and uh we are in the fourth quarter of um twenty twenty five.
	Goldman Sachs then um updated their uh their estimate to forty-nine hundred dollar gold by second quarter next year.
	And uh said the basis of that is the fact that a lot of people, uh besides central banks, the retail people are mostly buying it through ETFs.
	And I used to do that, but I would caution you about that, because that is not the same as uh actually having gold.
	What you're doing is you're buying shares in a corporation that says that they have gold.
	And it does not track with gold.
	And uh that was the thing when gold first started making moves about ten years ago, making some small moves at one point in time.
	I was in uh ETFs and um of gold and silver, and I looked at it, it's like this is not moving like the uh spot price of gold is moving.
	What's going on with that?
	And then I found out what the paper gold was really about.
	Uh having it, having physical gold like you can get from Tony is uh very important because that's what keeps it secret and keeps it safe, as Gondolf would say, right?
	We should do Lance, we should do a uh you should do a commercial for for gold, keep it secret, so gets to keep it safe, and he's got the coin instead of the ring, right?
	But um Goldman has uh hiked that to 4900, and Ken Griffin says he is worried about substantial dollar de uh de dollarization because that's really what we're seeing here.
	Gold is not going up in value, except against the currencies, the fiat currencies that are out there.
	What you're really seeing here is uh this is the theory of relativity of uh money money, I guess.
	Uh are we moving or is the other thing moving, right?
	You've always had that kind of sensation.
	Maybe if you're in a car and and out of the corner of your eye, another car starts moving very slowly back, and it's like, wait a minute, am I moving or are they moving?
	Well, that's what's happening here.
	Uh it's really the dollar that is going down as opposed to gold that's going up in value.
	Gold holds its value, that's the whole point.
	A safe haven for people to park their money as the U.S. government shutdown continues, and that's not just what is happening right now.
	That is the government that is shutting down everything, including itself with excessive debt.
	So uh Jesse Columbo of the Bubble Bubble report asks, is silver about to tumble like it did in 1980 and 2011?
	He said, with silver rallying strongly, rising more than 50% since the start of the year.
	A growing number of investors are starting to worry that a crash may be coming, similar to what happened after major spikes in 80 and 2011.
	Instead of focusing on the incredible long-term opportunity that remains in front of us.
	So he says, um, I believe that silver would not repeat the sharp collapses that followed its short-lived surges in 80 and 2011.
	This time is different.
	This is a legitimate sustainable bull market with real staying power and the potential for lasting gains.
	And I think this is different.
	And I think what's different about it is the um the condition of the dollar and the many things that are involved with that.
	Uh he says, you'll notice there's been three major price surges.
	The first was the Hunt Brothers driven uh spike in 1980, followed by the quantitative easing fueled rally in 2011, and now the current precious metals bull market.
	I believe this current move is legitimate and a sustainable bull market that is here to stay.
	And he said the reason for that is the de dollarization.
	And he's not the only one saying this.
	I mean, you got uh, you know, as I said before, Ken Griffin, you've got uh the the uh investment uh people that are saying this, but certainly the central banks are saying it by their actions.
	So unfortunately the debt problem is truly a worldwide phenomenon, as global debt has surged more than tenfold since the mid-1990s, reaching an estimated two hundred and fifty trillion dollars.
	The towering debt burden is a ticking time bomb that will ultimately bring fiat currencies to their knees.
	That is why it is the of the utmost importance for everyone to acquire at least some physical gold and silver to protect against what lies ahead.
	This fact alone guarantees that precious metals still have much further to rise.
	So you have a ticking time bomb from the debt.
	You have uh people's concern about the uh the value of fiat currency.
	You also have the rise of BRICS, which is trying to create a secondary uh financial system, independent of the existing one, and they have to collect gold because they need to have some credibility for their system.
	The way they get credibility is to have gold there.
	And then there's another aspect of all this, and that is the manic desire of government to track everything that we do.
	And that I think is one of the most disturbing aspects of this, and that's why I talk about physical gold.
	It's not just as an investment, you know, that you you buy an ETF or something like that for it.
	It's the physical gold that is something that helps us to uh uh have a hedge against the digital currencies and the surveillance state.
	So the gold rally points to an eroding faith in central banks worldwide.
	In Japan, as in the U.S., a new leader wants the central bank there to make government debt more bearable, which could feed inflation, monetizing the debt, in other words.
	Uh so you create inflation, you pay it back with cheaper currency that you print.
	On Tuesday, when gold topped uh 4,000 for the first time, they said um it wasn't a coincidence.
	Because you see, this type of thing is happening across the board, and it's not just the central banks who are putting out the quantitative easing and the negative interest rates and things like that.
	But it is also the push that we see in Europe for a central bank digital currency, or the stable coins that we have here in the U.S., which are functionally going to be the same.
	So this article from Zero H says that the $4,000 gold is a geopolitical warning.
	Because what we're seeing here is a repricing of trust.
	Deepening global concerns about sovereign balance sheets, the sustainability of fiscal policy, and a world that is seeking reliability beyond these eroding fiat currencies, not sustainable debt.
	The 4,000 gold is a flight to quality as other assets are appearing vulnerable.
	It's also about speed and scale.
	It's incredible that gold breached the 3,000 level only seven months ago.
	The rapid move through a major psychological barrier, like $4,000 validates the fear of a profound loss of confidence in paper assets.
	There's also a shift to the East.
	The most decisive move through the $4,000 mark occurred during Asian trading hours.
	Whole London and New York were asleep.
	It is high highly symbolic.
	Gold is now signaling that the global center of gravity is shifting east to Asia.
	But it's also the geopolitical engine is the fact that you have the BRICS nations trying to build new institutions, and they need that credibility, as I said before.
	A lot of that is because of the sanctions shock that began with uh Biden, but now Trump is doing the same thing.
	And a repatriation trend.
	Not only is central bank gold buying opaque and ongoing, but many nations are also seeking to repatriate their physical reserves.
	There is a palpable erosion of trust and traditional Western custodians.
	And so this article is a my conclusion then is that substantial buying remains.
	There is still substantial gold accumulation yet to be done because of all these fundamentals that are out there.
	None of these things are being fixed.
	As a matter of fact, all of them are getting worse.
	You know, the fiscal irresponsibility, the desire for a totalitarian surveillance state, you name it.
	You know, the weaponization of our existing financial system and how it is quite literally bankrupt.
	They understand that, and they have been moving to make that happen.
	Central bankers have.
	So it's time for you as an individual to understand that as well.
	So Senator Loomis, who has been pushing for a Bitcoin reserve, says the U.S. uh Bitcoin reserve funding could start any time now, and that's going to really accelerate the move, I think, out of fiat currency as well.
	If you own Bitcoin and you assume that it's going to go up 12% a year, you'll make 30-fold in 30 years, said uh one individual who's looking at this.
	It's actually going to be able to cover the cost of the fiscal deficit hole that exists.
	This is kind of fuzzy thinking, I think.
	Uh again, now they're saying that they can monetize the debt by uh getting into Bitcoin.
	Well, there's no productive uh money that's going out of this.
	And uh I I just think that it's going to be a financial game if they do something like that.
	Uh monetizing the debt uh in this particular case uh by the asset inflation of Bitcoin is what some of them are looking at, of course, talking about recalibrating their uh book value of the gold that they own as well.
	Uh this is also uh about Bitcoin.
	This is on Cointelegraph.
	Goals gains imply six hundred and forty-four thousand Bitcoin and equivalent value, they said.
	Well, again, this is based on the ratio of uh Bitcoin to gold.
	And um, looking at how Bitcoin how gold has gone up so much, well, their logic is that uh Bitcoin should go up that amount as well.
	But it's a very Different thing.
	And when I look at it, you know, there's you can play this like you're playing stocks or buying commodities or whatever.
	Um, I don't personally like to do that.
	I'm looking at gold because it gets me away from the electronic money and the and the government controlled money, and it keeps that eminent anonymity that we have with cash.
	So I'm very concerned about Bitcoin.
	But again, if you just want to speculate, um, you know, pass this along where they're saying roughly half of gold's value reflects its use as a store of value rather than as an industrial or jewelry demand, and surveyor surveys show that younger consumers in emerging markets increasingly prefer Bitcoin for that role.
	But it is not physical, and it is very easily manipulated, and that's one of the reasons why the governments are making moves towards it, I think.
	So gold will hit um uh this is another um this is TDS now.
	Uh you had uh Goldman Sachs saying that it was going to hit 4900 by the second quarter 2026.
	TDS is saying 4400.
	I think they're extremely conservative.
	Again, if you want to start to take measures to get gold and silver and start to accumulate it gradually.
	If you're gonna save uh have a savings program, put a savings program in something that's not going to lose value.
	In other words, don't save in the banks.
	There's no reason to put money in a savings program in the bank anymore.
	They don't pay you any interest rate at all.
	And uh the value of the dollar is going down for the longest time.
	The amount of interest that they would pay you would not offset the inflation that was there.
	But uh now they don't pay you any interest at all.
	So why not put it in something that is physical and uh that is going to hold its value rather than lose its value?
	And uh so if you want to start doing that on a regular basis, of course, you have Wolfpack uh that Tony Yarderman has, and you can uh uh set up a structured savings program to determine how much you want to do each month, you know, fifty dollars on up, and uh, he will send you a package with that.
	And he also gets a group buy discount off of that.
	So it's a it's a good value that you get from that on a regular basis.
	I don't know anybody else that does that.
	And but of course, you can buy gold and silver in any quantity uh with Tony, and uh he can also help you with an IRA if you want to uh get a metal IRA, he can help you to set that up as well.
	And you can get to Tony through David Knight.gold.
	That'll take you to Tony and let him know that you came through us.
	Well, we're gonna take a quick break.
	Well, if we take a break, we will read some of the comments.
	That's right.
	Doug De7, as expected, Lindsay Graham only cares about surveillance when it affects him.
	Well, they're worried about what they might have overheard or seen.
	Have you seen the conversations with my page boys?
	Niburu 2029.
	The FBI knows who issued that shoot to kill order that ended Ashley Babbitt's life in that hallway on January 6, 2021.
	Defy Tyrant 1776, Trump allowed the border to be wide open during his first term.
	He's responsible for millions of illegals being here.
	Only a fool would have believed he would actually try to fix the problem in his second term, and he's not all a show.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	And you know, you talk about that Ashley Babbitt thing and other documents that are out there like that.
	Um it's all such a fraud.
	And you know, I just cash patel, Dan Bon Gino.
	When I talked to uh William Benny, who is the global technical head for the NSA, he was it was back at the time when they were trying to run all this uh Russia gate stuff and everything, he goes, uh they're pretending like they don't have any of these records.
	He said they've got all these records.
	They're just not going to let you know about it, right?
	So all this stuff is a kabuki theater.
	They know the all of this stuff, and they're not going to tell you.
	The only thing that uh in terms of the Ashley Babbitt, um, if they were to uh go public with it, they'd probably give the guy a medal, like they did Lon Horiucci, who shot Randy Weaver's wife, basically point blank as an FBI sniper.
	So, you know, they gave him a medal.
	New Republic rising 83.
	FBI can be downsized 80% and the remaining 20% split up to liaise across state lines and assist state bureaus of investigation to coordinate.
	Defy Tyrants 1776, the border is just as wide open as it was when Cheeto Man got back into the White House.
	Yeah.
	Tunnel Lord 137.
	Well, most people don't care because mainstream alternative MAGA media runs cover for Trump.
	They act exactly like North Korean media.
	Yeah.
	They're nothing but shameless shills and grifters.
	They have Trump Trump sucker proxies.
	Steve Evs, the FBI is like most everything else, unconstitutional.
	Yes.
	The vast majority of the government is unconstitutional at this point.
	KWD sixty eight silver is up over two dollars to fifty-one dollars.
	Plus silver has risen the same percentage as gold last ten years.
	About both in 2015, and they both basically tripled.
	Big jumps in medals don't bode well for fiat sooner or later.
	Keep in mind that $50 silver in 1980 equates to $200 with inflation.
	was huge back then.
	I think it would be even more.
	There was a legitimate bubble that corrected itself, but it's very different from what we see now.
	Now I mean 1980, you would think the inflation would be more than four fold, wouldn't you?
	Yeah.
	But the um the thing is what was happening in 1980 was the the Hunt brothers trying to corner the silver market, and that was a that was a thing that distorted it.
	Uh but this is again fundamental changes in global structure, and um that's what's really driving this.
	And uh the debt issues that we have here are the same in other countries as well.
	And everybody's concerned about the financial institutions and the entire system that's been set up has been shown to be dishonest and manipulative, and um they can take your money at any time they want for whatever reason they want.
	And that's one of the reasons why you've got to get it out in some way, shape, or form.
	And it's something that is physical.
	Yeah.
	Christian constitutional conservative.
	David, how do we stay anonymous buying gold when most transactions are recorded?
	Secondly, are you buying goods and services with gold coins?
	No, I'm not buying that yet because it's um uh you know the time will come if the there's a massive collapse, then people figure out how to do that with the gold coins.
	It's a little bit difficult to do that.
	Even in the places where they have legalized it as tender, uh the retailers can accept it as payment.
	However, like Tony was saying, it's a complicated thing to make sure that you're accepting a real goal piece.
	And so that's why you want to deal with somebody that you trust, like Tony.
	Uh in terms of um staying anonymous, um, the transactions are recorded, but I don't think that it's recorded in the uh uh I don't know.
	I'm I I don't know if they do the know you customer rules and report transactions over a certain amount.
	Probably I guess they do.
	But um again, because it's physical, it's like when you buy a gun, right?
	Uh your gun purchases is recorded.
	It's gotta be approved, actually.
	And uh continually put on hold any time I buy a gun.
	Every time Travis gets a gun, they put him on a three to five day hold or something.
	The FBI says, uh I don't know.
	So uh yeah, but but uh yeah, they know that you've got the gun.
	Uh the question is, you know, when they come forward, it's like I don't have that anymore.
	It fell into the lake or something, you know.
	So it's like, you know, that's that's that's the situation, and I don't know if they would do that.
	Perhaps that's what uh uh Trump has in mind with his militarization, federalization of police.
	But uh yeah, it's gonna be like anything else.
	Um, you know, it's um if they prohibit gold, uh then um uh they're still not gonna shut it down.
	A lot of people did not turn in their gold when FDR did it.
	And drug prohibition really hasn't worked all that well, has it?
	A little bit more anonymous, but uh nonetheless.
	It's also the matter of everyone immediately goes to the worst possible scenario of societal collapse where you need gold, but realistically it's been a great investment.
	If you've purchased gold at any point uh in the recent past, uh you can now sell that for more than you've bought it for.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	I I would just uh if you're concerned about staying anonymous and you're concerned about the government confiscating it, I would just say stay away from uh deposit boxes and stuff like that.
	Because remember, uh there was uh a case on it, I think it's still going through the courts.
	It was in Beverly Hills or something, and they uh went in and they they thought that this uh place that had private um uh private boxes was involved in uh they asserted that they were involved in illegal stuff.
	They went in and they confiscated everything from everybody.
	A lot of people are using it to store gold or uh other valuables, and they just took everything from everybody, even though there was no some of these civil asset forfeiture things.
	And um, so I would just say, you know, keep it yourself, don't put it in some uh third party place like that.
	Now to to some degree you have to do that if you're doing a um an IRA, a metal IRA, you are required to do that.
	But outside of that, I would say keep physical possession yourself.
	I would not trust any of these state depository things or any private uh um uh boxes or bank boxes or anything like that, you're just asking for trouble.
	Uh yeah, what I was saying was that it is before you get to society collapse, you have the dollar collapsing, and this is a way to protect yourself from the devaluation of a dollar.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, also if you're worried about uh the government coming in and seizing it, the government could come in and seize anything.
	If they want to, they can march in with tanks and march you out of your home, frog march you directly into a FEMA camp.
	So it's just you know, confiscation is always an issue, but you can simply say, Oh yeah, I lost it.
	Whereas if it's some digital asset that you hold, they can just turn that off, they can seize it immediately.
	So you have something physical.
	Oh no, my trust my chest of gold.
	I buried it and I seem to have forgotten where it is.
	Yeah, you'll just forget the password.
	Don't remind me.
	Uh lots of money gone.
	But hey, it was funny at the time.
	Still a little bit funny now.
	Guard you you wanted to get into a joke coin?
	Well, there's the joke.
	Jokes on me.
	Say Love V. Easy come.
	Not easy come, but very easy go.
	Yeah.
	Guard Goldsmith, the central banks and governments will push stable coin assets, which aren't assets, force institutions to invest in US debts to back up the coins, buy a lot at low prices, plus remote the coins to suckers.
	Well, there's one born every minute.
	Well, I think the whole play with the stable coins is a way for them to try to continue to sell their treasure bills because the foreign governments and foreign banks are not interested in buying the dollar anymore.
	Ever everybody's de dollarizing.
	So this is a way to get around it.
	And what they will do is they will put the stable coin out there as a way for you to buy things even internationally and have a transaction that happens right away and has low or no fees initially.
	And so people will get into it for that reason.
	And then the stable coin companies like uh Lutnik will be buying the T-bills that supposedly back that up.
	Only thing is, uh Lutnik isn't that stupid.
	He as I pointed out the other day, he's not just buying T-bells, he's also buying Bitcoin and gold and massive amounts because and land.
	Uh he's buying gold, land, and bitcoin, not just T bills.
	So he's trying to uh he's he's not gonna be a hundred percent in T bills.
	It wouldn't be too stable if he were, yeah.
	Tunnel Lord one 337 says, I just don't see the attraction to cryptocurrency.
	My neighbors won't accept Bitcoin for food, but they will accept silver.
	It's a good thing to have physical things like gold and silver.
	It's also a good thing to have physical skills if you really want to make sure, you know.
	Gold and silver are nice, but there's no guarantee that you'll come across someone that wants to trade for them right away.
	In an immediate sort of uh everything collapses scenario, you'll want skills and the ability to feed yourself in the short term, and once things start to rebuild, then gold and silver will probably be established as a monetary.
	That's my opinion on things.
	So if you want a very very valuable commodity, learn skills, how to feed yourself, how to find water, how to protect yourself, and you can do that with the civil defense manual and go to Jack LawsonBooks.com to get that.
	Invest in yourself and in knowledge how to do things.
	You can also just go on YouTube and start watching a billion different videos on ways to take care of yourself.
	The civil defense manual is great because you can keep it with you.
	It is a physical copy and it's not going to evaporate if the worst ever does happen, the internet goes down.
	But you can start preparing for free in many different ways.
	And of course, chickens are a great thing to keep.
	They provide eggs, they provide meat, and if you have to eat the chicken themselves.
	So make sure that you have ways Of supporting yourself with food and water as well.
	Soilet Goy, I buy gold at pawn shops with cash and buried in a trunk in the woods like a pirate.
	That's the way.
	Now we know.
	Well, obviously, he's got his IP address routed through 16 different VPNs.
	We would never be able to find him.
	KWD68, how about gold and silver in person with cash at local coin shops and other collectors with no digital record or receipt?
	Yeah, I agree.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And there's I mean, if you do it with a, you know, for your IRA IRA, of course, there's gonna be lots of records and things like that that people have to know, their customers.
	But yeah, we buy it at retail shop like that, you don't necessarily have to have that.
	We have Radis Bro.
	I've been doing wise wolf since it started, and I have so much silver and gold pieces now.
	That's awesome, Radis Bro.
	Glad to hear that, and glad you're enjoying it.
	Christian Constitutional Conservative, how do we stay anonymous with a metal IRA?
	That's an impossibility, I'm pretty sure.
	It is, yeah.
	If you're involved with an IRA, the government tracks everything.
	I mean, the thing about it is you're you're paying for it to be kept in a safety deposit box there, essentially, and um, you know, you can have them then send it to you, and um, and then you have it physically.
	But yeah, while it's there, it's still exposed just like you had if you had a safety deposit box at a bank or at um like that store that they raided.
	Yeah.
	KWD68, my lead purchase will help protect me.
	Yeah.
	It's an important investment.
	Price of lead's going up as well.
	It goes up forever.
	There's a good channel on YouTube called Dirty Civilian talk about preparing and how to engage in firefights and the things you want to do.
	So I'd recommend checking them out.
	Dirty Civilian.
	It's sort of making fun of the fact that military guys have this mentality of oh, you're just a dirty civilian, you don't know what you're talking about.
	But it's like you can be prepared, you can't have skills, you can know what to do.
	Dirty civilian on YouTube, check him out.
	Stealth Patriot, even at $51 an ounce, silver is still a bargain.
	The real Octo Spook, governor the government will seize your safe deposit boxes and banks.
	Physical storage of the physical metals is always a nagging worry.
	Everything the government, as I said before, if they want to, they'll roll in with tanks and they will simply frog march you out into a FEMA camp, and you can then choose if you want to go or if you want to fight.
	In the worst case scenario, you know, if you're constantly worrying about the fact, like, oh, well, the government could do this, the government to do that, why even bother planning?
	They might just drop a nuke directly on your forehead, and at that point, you know, all your preparation will be for nothing.
	But it's better to prepare in some ways than to assume that nothing can be done, and you might as well just give up before it even starts.
	Guard goldsmith, exactly.
	David, it's a new way to get people to buy US debt a parallel to the Federal Reserve ripoff.
	Yeah.
	And not only people here domestically, but people around the world, right?
	They want to make this uh uh you know, tether coin or whatever, they want to be globally so that you've got people in other countries that would be uh buying uh individuals.
	You know, it's like moving this accumulation, selling the federal debt in small pieces to uh uh retail instead of to the big central banks and governments.
	Doug to 007.
	As one of my professors once said, there's no such thing as zero risk, gold and silver is an excellent store of wealth, so it's worth acquiring some even if you can't be entirely anonymous.
	That's right.
	Well, we're gonna take a quick break and we come back, we're gonna talk about what is happening in Europe and and um um California, which is truly frightening what we see happening there.
	We'll be right back, and
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	Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen.
	Your annual global risk report makes for a stunning and sobering read.
	The top concern for the next two years is not conflict or climate.
	It is disinformation and misinformation.
	followed closely by polarization within our societies.
	In a world of deceit, Telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
	You are listening to the David Knight Show.
	Of course, that was Ursula von der Leiden, I guess is what I call her Ursula Fond of Lying.
	But in that particular case, she was telling you the truth.
	She was telling you what she was going to do, and now they are executing on that.
	The European Commission has a plan now to scan private digital messages, and it is moving towards final approval.
	It's kind of like yesterday we talked to the author uh uh and uh David Badeau about his book about FDR and how they went through and they grabbed all the telegram messages of people.
	Well, they want to do that with the platform telegram, as with everything else as well now.
	So they want uh all your messages belong to them, and they can do it far more efficiently electronically than the FDR goons could do if they go to get all these pieces of paper.
	They will all put millions of these things.
	Uh anyway, the regulation is called Chat Control 2.0.
	And I could call I guess uh Chat GOV 2.0.
	It's gone through a year of resistance and from warning from experts and objections from tech companies.
	It is presented as a child safety measure designed to inspect messages, photos, and videos across the EU before they are sent.
	The privacy implications are immense.
	Alice Weidel, co-leader of Germany's AFD party, uh, these are the people that the the real Nazis and Stasi in Germany want to label these people as Nazis, but we can see who the real Nazis are.
	The AFD party leader said um this proposal is quote, an absolutely totalitarian project, a comprehensive general attack on central citizens and their freedoms.
	She said the measure would install scanning software on personal devices that would intercept content before it reaches its recipient.
	The system would remove the protection offered by end-to-end encryption and treat every user as a potential suspect.
	You know, the same way the TSA does, every traveler.
	So this is uh somehow we gotta get control of government again.
	Things are gonna get really bad before they get better, I think.
	Whiteell said the use of child safety language was simply a cheap pretext.
	It always is for real-time surveillance.
	Even the Stasi could only dream of such full force, she said.
	Uh, she warned that once the system exists, the functions can expand to include other categories such as potentially uh rather politically offensive content.
	Well, that's exactly what it is for.
	And to go after so-called hate speech, just like Ursula Fond of Lying was saying, it's information and disinformation.
	We gotta stop this, right?
	Disinformation would be anything they don't like.
	Uh the law allows the criteria to be adjusted through political decisions, okay?
	What they prohibit will constantly being changed.
	It might be climate, it might be vaccines, it might be COVID, you name it.
	It might be their war that they want to start.
	Technology companies have joined in opposition, hundreds of privacy-oriented firms, including encrypted messengers, cloud storage devices, uh, servers, and uh VPN providers signed a joint letter urging EU ministers to reject the regulation.
	Uh the message call for the protection of encryption.
	I'm kind of wondering what's gonna happen to Proton Mail.
	I mean, they're you know, we use them, and uh they're in Switzerland and they do encryption.
	is Switzerland in the EU or are they out of it?
	I don't know.
	So uh they put out a statement.
	I'm not sure if they're being affected by this law in particular, or one uh that's specifically Swiss, uh, but there is a law coming that would require them to put a backdoor into their system.
	Uh but they have put out a public statement saying that they will leave Switzerland if that happens.
	Uh oh good.
	I wonder where these companies other companies are saying they'll leave Europe as well.
	Uh signal is saying that they're going to leave the EU if forced to comply.
	Where are they gonna go?
	It's like every country on earth wants to do this type of thing.
	They're not safe here in the US either.
	And we're gonna see in just a moment what's happening here.
	Supporters of the proposal say that it'll catch child abusers.
	Critics point out that criminal networks conduct their operations in offline settings or hidden spaces beyond the reach of such scanning.
	Well, the reality is we just saw this Israeli cybersecurity guy.
	You know, he's that's that's his thing is cybersecurity.
	And he's at the Black Hat conference, and he goes on the open web to try to pick up children, and they got him in the sting, but then of course uh the Trump administration loves pedophiles.
	And so uh especially the Israeli kind, so they sent him to Israel out of the reach of law enforcement.
	But again, that was not on a the dark web or anything like that.
	Uh this can happen anywhere.
	And these types of crimes have been going on before there was the internet and before those social media.
	This is simply a cheap pretext, as the AFD leader said.
	Criminals are already using offline so-called dark rooms for their illegal businesses.
	Uh the measure would monitor regular users, journalists, private citizens, opposition politicians like her, of course.
	There's also the fact that if you want to protect children, it's the job of the parents to do that.
	Yes.
	Which Republicans don't understand either.
	If you want to make sure your child is not in contact with freaks and weirdos on the internet, don't give them access to the internet.
	That's right.
	You can't 100% be certain they're not going to access it on a friend's phone or at a friend's house.
	There's always a chance that they'll get access to it somewhere.
	But you can ensure that you do not make it easy for them.
	You can ensure you're not enabling this kind of behavior.
	You can wait until they're old enough to be able to be responsible.
	Which again, teenagers aren't responsible.
	I wasn't responsible as a teenager.
	No one is.
	They all think they know more than they do.
	But you can at least instill some sense of caution into a teenager.
	You can reason with them a little bit.
	You can't reason with a child.
	Don't just give your you know eight or nine-year-old a cell phone and trust that they're going to not treat it as a toy, that nothing is real.
	Well, as they get to become uh a teenager, then you need to start to engage with them on um moral and spiritual issues as well, which is really where the fight is going to be for them as an adult.
	So this is gonna be a vote that's gonna happen October the 14th.
	I guess what is that, Monday or something?
	Uh maybe I don't know, Monday, Tuesday.
	Something like that.
	Well, determine whether or not private communication will continue to exist inside of the EU.
	Over five hundred scientists from more than thirty countries have issued warnings about the plan's impact.
	The regulation would create an environment of constant monitoring.
	Uh the technology platforms have warned that they may withdraw services from the region if the proposal becomes law.
	If chat control 2.0 passes, it will redefine digital communications in Europe and end the assumption that private messages are private.
	So as mass chat surveillance nears approval, president who is fond of lying, is accused of transparency violations herself over deleted messages.
	Understand that those rules don't apply to them, just like with Lindsay Graham.
	How dare you look at my messages?
	Everything that I, as a government official, do needs to be hidden from you.
	Every bit of action that the government does is hidden from us, and it is top secret.
	But everything in our life is to be exposed to them.
	Our messages are secret.
	You don't get to see those.
	That's right.
	Make sure that your kids aren't talking to someone like Lindsey Graham online.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	Uh well, European citizens Face the prospect of mass surveillance.
	Ursula Fond of Lying continues to ignore the laws and conduct her own communications away from public view.
	The latest case involves a message sent by French president Emmanuel Macron early 2024.
	Do you think it was helped my wife won't stop beating me?
	Yeah, he won't stop beating him.
	So I don't know.
	Maybe it was something about his wife.
	So called.
	Anyway.
	Macron's message sent via signal reportedly voiced serious reservations about the deal, a trade negotiation.
	But of course, there were other issues as well.
	Ursula Fond of Lying was part of a Pfizer scandal where she was communicating with of all people, Albert Borlo, that great guy that Trump loves so much.
	And they wanted to get her communications and she refused to do it.
	So when a journalist requested access under the EU transparency laws to this Macron message, they delayed and they waited for over a year, and then of course it disappeared from signal.
	That's the way the thing operates.
	So when uh Ursula Fond of Lying was uh privately messaging Albert Borla, CEO of Pfizer, uh it was um it was a scandal they called it Pfizer Gate in the EU.
	And uh she made sure that that her texts were not preserved, that they were deleted, and that's in violation of their transparency laws.
	The commission refused to release the messages.
	It later emerged that they had been deleted.
	The New York Times took the matter to court and won.
	The European General Court ruled that the Commission had wrongly withheld information of public interest.
	Ursula Fond of lying.
	Uh little appears to have changed.
	The Commission claims that messages like Macrons had no administrative or legal impact and therefore did not need to be archived.
	Well, how could you say when you're locking everybody in the world down over the supposed COVID and the supposed vaccine, that uh the messages that you have with the guy over that is not of public interest.
	Of course it is.
	Well, the commission argues laws on the book that say that it's the job of these people to keep their messages so that the public can decide whether it's a matter of public interest or not.
	But don't worry, take our word for it.
	We have these laws to say that we need to do that, but we've decided that in this case it was unnecessary.
	That's right.
	That's a smoking gun, isn't it, when she deletes the messages and they've got a transparency law.
	So as they point out on reclaimed the net, they said while the commission argues that mass message scanning is essential for public safety, its own leadership operates in secrecy.
	Because folks, look, government is a sinister secret society.
	That's what it is.
	And uh just like any of these other secret societies.
	Uh so then Christine Lagarde, who is the is guarding the um the European Central Bank, she's the president of that.
	I guess we could call her Christine the God because she acts like it as well.
	Uh she is very upset about how slow the legislative process is dragging the adoption of CBDC.
	And she said, you know, we like to talk about uh democracy.
	We praise ourselves by talking about democracy, but it's just too much of a drag at a time when speed is really of the essence.
	These people are trying to accelerate everything because of the end of the fourth turning.
	They know the time in which we live, and that's what uh why they have brought in Trump in the position that he's in.
	He's an accelerationist, and uh he's pushing us in the direction that they want to go, and he is accelerating all this as well.
	She openly admitted that the legislative timeline for CBDC in Europe has prevented her from completing the rollout of the digital euro within her term.
	She said, Given the time that it takes, I will be gone.
	Yes, one day she will be gone.
	She will answer for her crimes one day.
	Uh Christine the God is uh gonna find out that she's not God.
	All government is as grass.
	That's right.
	You know, the thing is is that um uh when we um when we look at what these people are doing in Europe, they don't run from the term CBDC.
	But you better careful because here in America, what they do is they put a guy in charge Who says that he's not going to do C B D C so he does stablecoin instead, which has all of the functions that these people want from CBDC to start with.
	And uh they put a guy in who says he's anti-globalist when he enacts every aspect of the global agenda.
	That's why it is so important here in America that people get their head around who the players are and what the agenda is, and and take a look at what they're actually doing.
	Everybody, oh, he's a Republican.
	He's anti-globalist, so it can't be coming from him.
	That's what they want you to believe.
	In Europe, they just go straight ahead.
	They tell you, yeah, we're gonna do C B D C. What are you gonna do about it?
	Right?
	We're gonna have digital ID, we're gonna have uh, you know, a unified um uh beast system here.
	Uh so try to stop us, they said.
	So um uh Christine the god referred to the launch as a certainty, saying when the digital euro is eventually launched for good, she said.
	Her language suggests that the outcome is already decided, regardless of what the public institutions or lawmakers may conclude.
	Well, of course it is.
	Every payment will be tracked, recorded, analyzed, just as you have uh Ursula Fond of Lying will make sure that every word and every message is going to be parsed, analyzed, recorded, and perhaps punished.
	By describing Democrat oversight as a hindrance, Christine the God implied that public debate and legislative scrutiny are problems to be managed rather than essential parts of policy making.
	Her comments serve as a confirmation that democratic resistance is not just being ignored, but it is resented.
	Well, of course, of course it is.
	Um so Ursula Fond of Lying has done the Hillary red herring thing.
	She says the people who are opposing her and criticizing her are serving Russia.
	There we go.
	Russia, Russia, Russia.
	The uh European Commission president is facing two non-confidence votes amid mounting challenges to her leadership.
	And um this is coming, I think it is today.
	Yes, it is today.
	They're going to be having the vote.
	Uh of two non confidence votes will be coming up today.
	Well, she's got my vote.
	Yeah.
	Of no confidence, yeah.
	But she's saying that in these people who criticize her are with Russia.
	So that's you're gonna see more and more of that, but it's it's been the thing they've been using for a very long time.
	Yet, comrades.
	So they said uh there's a clear frustration in Parliament toward this commission, saying it would be great if they raise the threshold for future attempts to force a vote of no confidence.
	Yeah, because the frustration is only going to increase.
	So let's make it harder for them to uh uh do a vote of no confidence against me.
	So I said this is all coming to the U.S. And of course, where's it gonna come in through?
	California or New York, right?
	Well, this is California's got a hate speech bill that would crush dissent.
	And uh this is passed by the legislature already.
	They sent it to Newsom.
	He has until October the 13th to sign it, but whether he signs it or whether he vetoes it, it will basically become law.
	I mean, if he vetoes it, they'll have to override the veto.
	But if he doesn't do anything at all, uh, or if he signs it, it'll become law.
	If he were to shut it down, I don't think he will.
	Um, but uh if he were to shut it down, then they would have to override his veto.
	But if he does, if he signs it, or if he just leaves it there, they don't have a pocket veto.
	Uh he doesn't have to sign it.
	So it would be the first online censorship law of its kind in America.
	It would likely pave a path for many other states uh run by people with no tolerance for dissent.
	This is a the new American.com.
	So um what will it do?
	It will target social media platforms uh and um they could uh the role that they could play in supposedly aiding and abetting supposed hate crimes, or by pushing content that could lead to a hate crime.
	So think about this.
	This is a pre-hate crime bill.
	It's pre-hate.
	You know, what you said could cause somebody to hate.
	So I'm gonna come after you for that content.
	Actually, this might even be pre-pre-hate crime.
	You're not even talking about committing a hate crime.
	You're discussing things that might have someone else go commit a hate crime.
	We've seen this exact thing in uh the UK.
	I saw something about this happening even in uh Japan.
	There was a news story of uh an illegal immigrant who hit uh two teenagers.
	I think it was a sixteen year old and a seventeen-year-old, or it might have been seventeen and eighteen, uh, killed one and the other's in a coma.
	And uh the he didn't have a license or insurance or anything, so uh the local government uh wanted to get the taxpayer funding for the family as a victim relief.
	But uh the federal uh it was actually the Japanese communist party and another one uh opposed that because that could lead to pushback against immigrants and discrimination against immigrants.
	So it's pre-hate crime, essentially.
	I mean, granted it was you know getting government money, which is help the victims that could get people angry at the perps, right?
	So exactly, and we've seen tons of stuff about that in the UK, where anything that might lead to any kind of pushback against immigrants is silenced.
	The Japanese Communist Party, it's uh slowly becoming more powerful, it seems like.
	There was a man named Otoya Yamaguchi.
	This was many years ago, but he got up on stage with a short sword, a wakazashi, I believe, and stabbed the leader of the Japanese Communist Party and killed him.
	And he's just like, not in my country, not in my time.
	And he accepted the fact that he was going to prison.
	Not condoning it, not saying he should have done it, but he uh made sure that the Japanese Communist Party has been a largely meaningless ineffectual nothing.
	He didn't have the time to commit Harry Curry, I guess, right?
	It was once very hated, but now it's becoming more and more mainstream even in Japan.
	Yeah, probably because of their schools.
	What is interesting about this uh California bill, I think, is that they're not trying to sell this as protecting children.
	They're trying to sell it as a way to groom and gaslight children.
	Because we're talking about California.
	Uh so it prohibits all these people, uh you know, corporations and people from engaging in anything that they think would um uh be hate hateful of trainees or sexual orientation or immigration status or any of that kind of stuff.
	Um the more likely primary intent here is to coerce social media companies into pre-censoring, of course, says uh New American.
	The bill is not about protecting civil rights.
	It's California's brazen attempt to export its one party censorship regime to every corner of the internet.
	This bill hands Sacramento the power to bully platforms into preemptively scrubbing dissent on everything from border security to parental rights.
	We've seen big tech abuse, vague hate speech rules to throttle conservatives for years, including shutting down our platform in 2021 now.
	The uh lawmakers want to make it mandatory with teeth shattering fines, and they have to be stopped before it buries the first amendment.
	Uh that was from um the senior vice president of Parlor.
	I didn't know they were even still around, Parler.
	Yeah, that's not one you hear about anymore.
	Yeah.
	Platforms will overmoderate and they will remove posts in order to stay out of court.
	Uh but the New American understands what this is really about.
	When they talk about certain protected groups, guess what?
	Uh that's a group in a club that you ain't in, most likely.
	George Soros' Center for Centering Digital Hate, countering digital hate, says that hate crimes involving anti-immigrant slurs increased by 31%.
	There's been a 400% rise in anti-LGBTQ disinformation and harmful rhetoric on major social media platforms.
	And then the bill would also silence any anti-Israel and anti-Islamic rhetoric.
	There you go, there's your Abraham Accords.
	I guess it's called the Abraham Discords or something, right?
	Uh they said there's been a um 53% rise in anti-Jewish bias, a 62% rise in anti-Islamic bias.
	But of course, the bill doesn't define what bias is.
	Uh the context says that bias is whatever they think it is.
	It's just really a code for criticism.
	Uh and they point out in the New American that Cesar Chavez waged a campaign against illegals in the 1970s using language that was much harsher than what most opponents of illegal immigration use today.
	Some illegals did incur violence, and they said there was no social media back then.
	Jewish people have also suffered violence for millennia, homosexuals as well, long before social media ever existed.
	But notice that there's one class of people the bill does not protect Christians.
	Well, I would say Christians and white males.
	So Three classes of people, right?
	Um Christianity is the most common religion in the state of California.
	And unlike most critics of LGBTQ lifestyle or illegal immigration, many opponents of Christianity aren't just spouting off, they've become increasingly hostile.
	According to the Family Research Council, violence against Christians more than doubled in 2023 when compared to the previous year.
	Moreover, anti-Christian violence increased eightfold from 2018 to 2023.
	So they say there's been a 53% anti-Jewish bias increase, 62% anti-Muslim increase.
	Guess what?
	There's been 800% anti-Christ violence increase.
	Actual violence, not just a bias.
	But they're not going to do anything about that.
	If the legislation's drafters generally wanted to stop social media from amplifying violence, why not carve out a clause to protect the class that is under significant attack?
	The answer is obvious.
	This is a Trojan horse for outright censorship of sensible criticism.
	but also seeks to quash Christian ideas and to silence online speech that points out the absurdity of our leaders'policies and ideas.
	And it's always the Christians who are targeted by the totalitarians first.
	Why do you think that is?
	So the representatives of X have spoken out to Newsom, asked him to veto the bill.
	Again, it has passed both houses of the California legislature.
	The company's Global Government Affairs Department published a statement saying, it is alarming that California lawmakers who are sworn to uphold the Constitution have so brazenly ignored their oath and voted to pass this bill, knowingly, undermining First Amendment protections.
	This is the latest reminder that America is not immune from what is happening in the rest of the world.
	Many parts of Europe have already fallen.
	In the UK, police have arrested thousands of people for offensive social media posts.
	The EU's landmark Digital Services Act, passed in 2023, allows legal cover for the globalists to come after the platforms that provide a space for conversations that they don't want people to have.
	And so it is, and it's going to even escalate with this bill that they're about to pass there as well.
	Finally, Blue Sky, a civil war shows that free speech is harder than it looks.
	Maybe you guys have seen this meme that a blue sky user burst into Waffle House and says, Oh, so you hate pancakes.
	That kind of sums up the left, doesn't it?
	So this is uh passed all over the uh blue sky.
	It set them off because they don't like memes and because it was so spot on.
	So you had um uh this is uh put out as a joke in one context here.
	Jesse Single, uh, there were calls to ban him from the platform, and uh for uh being uh criticizing the gender stuff, and the CEO of Blue Sky responded saying waffles.
	And uh so that immediately became a meme, and it started a little bit of a civil war there on Blue Sky.
	That's interesting because Blue Sky has been almost nothing but a hug box for leftists since its inception.
	Well, as they point out, what these people are saying, um, the CEO of Blue Sky has said harassing the mods and banning someone has never worked.
	It definitely has, though.
	Yeah, well.
	Uh harassing people in general has not changed their mind, is what they're saying, right?
	And um, so they said um that uh you you can either the point of this article, they correctly point this out on unheard.
	They said, you can either have what these people on Blue Sky want is contradictory.
	Uh you know, they they don't want certain types of speech tolerated, and they want to have um a decentralized protocol to promise freedom, and yet they expect the company to enforce what they think is virtuous, right?
	So they want control over their feeds to have protection from offensive ideas, but the demands are contradictory.
	The social system can guarantee both maximal autonomy and perfect safety.
	There isn't one that does that.
	Freedom of expression always comes with uh requires tolerance, patience, and a willingness to live with discomfort.
	Yeah.
	There's also the fact that every single social media app has a block button.
	You don't want to see something, just block the person.
	That's right.
	You are not required to sit there and interact with somebody.
	They don't have the right to get free access to you.
	If you want to ignore them, that is well within your power.
	You do not have the right to sit there though and start lobbying Twitter.
	Ban this person's account.
	Get rid of them.
	I don't ever want to see them.
	That's right.
	I mean, when you think about it, Blue Sky was founded by a bunch of people that feel like you have a right to not be offended.
	Yeah.
	And they have, you know, a group of people that love to get offended by everything.
	So eventually they're going to get offended by each other.
	It's just a matter of time.
	That's right.
	It doesn't even take long.
	You pointed out in this thing.
	I think this is important to remember.
	You gotta choose whether or not you want to be a public square or private club.
	You can't have it both ways.
	And that's what these people are thinking that they they want.
	They want to have their um their safety first and free freedom as well.
	Freedom, you can't have freedom and safety, right?
	Can't have your cake and eat it too.
	You can't have your freedom and safety at the same time.
	When you look at places like Gab that really do support free speech, you're gonna find a lot of really offensive stuff that's there.
	You just have to tolerate it if you want freedom.
	Uh that's the way it goes.
	Yeah.
	There's some of the dumbest people you will ever encounter are on Gab.
	But it's their right to be there.
	I would never want them to be banned off of it.
	Yes.
	We've got a lot of comments here.
	Mr. Palm, 1011.
	Diamonds are not a good investment at this point.
	Darn.
	What am I gonna do with all my diamonds now?
	The real Octo spook.
	Synthetic diamonds are better than real diamonds in every way, other than the romantic w thing.
	Yeah, that's right.
	It's more romantic if a child had to crush themselves to death in Africa to mine it.
	Yeah.
	KWD68.
	Yeah, but seeing stuff about the synthetic diamonds and how they're getting cheaper and cheaper to make...
	You know, perfectly good diamonds.
	Yeah, they actually look nicer too.
	They have less flaws and brighter colors.
	It is simply about the mystique of the fact that it's a real diamond and the De Beers family's marketing campaigns.
	Well, they had been making diamonds into a scarce resource when it really wasn't for a long time, even before synthetic diamonds were a thing.
	Yeah.
	Did they fund the Pink Panther movies?
	Do you have a boom?
	KWD 68.
	Keep the children safe.
	Children are always a prop for totalitarianism.
	Yeah.
	It's a it's for the kids.
	Everyone has well, almost everyone has a instinctive, natural desire to protect children.
	They see a child and they realize this is the future and they need to be guarded and shepherded.
	And it's a very easy way to sneak terrible agendas in under the tent flaps.
	Like, oh look, it's for the kids.
	You want to protect children.
	We know you do.
	That's right.
	Makes it very easy.
	You have to you have to actually engage your brain and think about what's going on and suppose the knee-jer.
	Well, if it's for kids, if it's for kids, we gotta do it.
	Shelley A, Russia just made biometric ID, a requirement for all children, their Soviet public school system.
	As we said before, Russia is not a savior.
	It's not going to save you.
	Just because we may agree with their assessment on the Ukraine war and what they're doing, or if they're legitimate and have you know a claim on the land, doesn't mean that we think Russia is a good country and that everything they do is good.
	Shelley A says China is the model.
	Yeah.
	May UK is next in line for the bio garbage.
	The UK is sadly already mostly a fallen country when it comes to their politicians, just like our country, just like many others.
	They've got a lot of really good people in the UK.
	I I'll say things like that, and I want to make sure that people understand that.
	I think there are a lot of true patriots in the UK that are still fighting and will do everything they can.
	They're just not in government.
	Yeah, they've just been completely sold out by the power structure.
	But that's basically across the board in every country.
	Doug Double O7, sadly, many parents don't seem to pay attention to what their children are being exposed to.
	Yeah, you'll just see By the way.
	Let me let me say uh I just saw, you know, this program called Covenant eyes.
	I think it was the one that was there, but it was uh uh parental controls.
	I think covenant eyes is like for two uh uh two adults, you know, get you get a copy of what you look at, you know.
	But but there was one that was for um a parental controls.
	It might not have been covenant eyes.
	Anyway, the guy who was a co-founder of that, uh his uh young adult son has just been arrested for kitty porn.
	So there's never any guarantee of any of this stuff, you know.
	As a parent, you do the best that you can, but there is uh no guarantee for anything.
	Yeah.
	And uh, you know, and I'm sure that he was trying to do the best that he could, but you just never know what's gonna happen.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The real Octo spook outlawing hate is insanity and a fool's pursuit.
	You can't do it.
	Even if you s tell people they can't say it, they can still think it and feel it.
	You cannot outlaw it.
	And in fact, giving people a way to express themselves and get it out of their system is kind of like a pressure release valve.
	If you can yell at people online in a low stake scenario, it kind of makes it easier to deal with.
	Oh, I got it out of my system.
	But if you're forced to sit there and you can't say anything because you know you're going to get hammered if you do, it builds even greater resentment.
	It's uh just let people call each other names on the internet.
	And also validate.
	It also to them, it validates their hate because it's like, oh, see, I'm proven right, you know.
	That's oh, you need a protector, don't you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I miss when the internet was allowed to be a bit more rude.
	I liked when people would insult me.
	Defy Tyrant 1776.
	Want to know who controls you?
	Find out who you aren't allowed to criticize.
	Well, that's almost everybody at this point, aside from white males.
	That's not narrowing it down as much as it used to.
	Yeah.
	Christian constitutional conservative.
	The heterosexual Christian white male is the number one enemy of the one world order.
	That's right.
	Yeah, or the bottom of the DEI total.
	It's the number one op.
	Hadrian was right.
	It's not about individuals, it's about Israel's catastrophic PR.
	Yeah.
	They're they're not so popular right now.
	There's a lot of people looking over and like, huh, perfect.
	But they they have a a massive program called um uh uh show me your works or something like that.
	Uh to target Christian churches.
	And uh it's a massive uh it's no, we're not gonna have time to get into it, but a multimillion dollar operation.
	Brian Shalhavi has a good article on it at uh uh health impact.
	We also briefly touched on them, but those articles where Benjamin Netanyahu was speaking to influencers saying, you know, oh you have to talk about how wonderful Israel is and promote Israel and say we're good and nice and kind and you shouldn't.
	Well this is a whole nother thing.
	This is geofence tracking of Christians in your movement.
	It's it's just spatial intelligence and then also money to churches to push Zionist propaganda.
	So yeah.
	They uh they're very, very big on creating their own po curating their public image.
	And they realize they've lost control of the narrative a little bit, so they're doing everything they can to get it back.
	Yeah, and it's and it's a real the really dangerous thing is that it's gonna make the churches more focused on Israel than political Israel than they are on Christ, and there's already way too much of that in the churches.
	I get hate mail from people because I oppose political Israel.
	It's like, you know, if you're Christian, you need to be pushing Christ, not some atheist genocidal abomination, a political entity that is just a pariah.
	Yeah.
	The Jews need Christ.
	That's what they need.
	They don't need they don't need land, they need a savior, which has already come.
	GDP 330, hate speech should be every bit pret as protected as all speech.
	They invented that term in laws, like in Canada and UK to create division and unrest.
	That's right.
	Hate speech is important again.
	I because of the time when you know I was youngish and on the internet on Twitter, it was more uncensored.
	People could actively be mean to you.
	And it was fun.
	I liked it.
	I like the fact that people were mean and kind of rude and we could fight it out.
	And I miss that.
	I miss when you could have an argument with someone and not get banned for it.
	Well, you can go look up Don Rickles on the internet and watch some of his old videos.
	I was never a fan of Don Rickles.
	I thought he was a little bit too harsh, and but it was it was funny, and it was this roasting thing that he had going on where he would he would criticize everybody and everyone.
	I mean it would come in and he'd just rip them apart and mock 'em.
	And so uh but yeah, he would uh he would definitely be personally gronted today.
	Yeah.
	It's just I don't know.
	I've always you know, if we're arguing, uh you even if we're you know, friendly arguing, I like being a little bit mean and rude about it.
	I try to mitigate that and not do it as much as possible.
	But I find it fun.
	I like it when the other people are a little bit mean and rude, you know.
	You take your IDs ideas seriously, you're passionate about it, and you're willing to go to the mat for it.
	But not anymore.
	Username 0123456789.
	Hate speech DEI woke progressivism equals communism.
	Hate.
	Yeah, real quickly before we take a break, because we got our uh guest is coming up, and we've got a very interesting book we're gonna talk about.
	Uh, but uh Biden uh told the CIA that he wanted the Intel report on his family's Ukraine ties suppressed, and it was.
	This is being published by Fox News when he was vice president, of course, and um charge of Ukraine policy for Obama.
	He told the CIA that he would strongly prefer, quote unquote, that an Intel report confirming Ukrainian concerns about his family being tied to corrupt business operations would not be disseminated.
	Now, this is at the time when he was also intimidating the prosecutor there to stop uh investigations into uh corruption that his family was involved in, and that was when Hunter was being paid a lot of money to be on the board of directors of Barisma, about a million dollars a year.
	Uh, Biden used the threat of withholding American financial help in order to force Ukraine to stop these investigations.
	And so um, it is interesting, and I wonder uh what, if anything, uh Trump would do about that.
	Um if anything, will they do about the CIA?
	I mean, you know, Joe Biden is gone now, but I wish they would do something about the CIA, the criminal intelligence agency.
	Something needs to be done about them.
	Yeah, they've they've had it too good for too long.
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	Well, we're gonna take a quick break, and uh when we come back, we're gonna be talking to Arthur James Bradley about his new book, Precious Freedom.
	Uh he is the author who wrote uh the uh great book, Flags of Our Fathers about the Marines at Iwo Jima, and that was turned into a movie by Clint Eastwood.
	So we're gonna talk to him about this um this book that he did about the Vietnam War.
	He spent 10 years researching this, uh, a lot of it in Vietnam.
	So we're going to take a quick break, folks, and we will be right back.
	Thank you.
	Defending the American dream.
	You're listening to the David Knight Show.
	Welcome back.
	And uh joining us now is um James Bradley, who is the author of Flags of Our Fathers, a great book and a great film that was done by uh Clint Eastwood.
	And uh he's now got another book.
	Uh not about that was about Iwo Jima, of course, and World War II.
	This one is a nonfiction book, and it is about Vietnam.
	It's called Precious Freedom.
	And some of the views that are here, uh one person um uh Norman Solomon said, for more than sixty years, Americans have looked at Vietnam through the wrong end of a telescope.
	I think that's a great way of putting it.
	He said, precious freedom turns it around and brings people into sharp focus uh from Vietnamese people who lived there and died uh to the Pentagon's gun um gun sites.
	And so I think it's a very important story.
	And he spent a lot of time working on this story, and this is a story that for most of us uh Vietnam is a very, very important milestone in our life.
	I think it shaped as uh me, it shaped my view of government and war in many different ways.
	And I didn't even go.
	I mean, I can only imagine uh the people that were there, but I did know people that went that were slightly older than I was.
	I had uh two older sisters, and they knew a lot of people who had been involved in and going to Vietnam and that experience that happened, and so this is a story that is told uh with characters from both sides, Americans as well as Vietnamese.
	Uh thank you for joining us, James.
	Good to be here.
	Thank you.
	Uh now you spent a decade in Vietnam researching this.
	Tell us a little bit about that and what Vietnam is like and what that experience was like.
	Well, I went, you know, I had written four books up to that point.
	So I thought, you know, I wrote all about the Pacific War.
	So I think uh my brother uh enlisted in the Marines in 1967.
	So I was watching Walter Cronkite every night studying the Vietnam War, and I thought, you know, I'll write a book about Vietnam.
	I'll just spend three years here.
	But it took me over ten years because I had to unravel all the propaganda baloney told to us by Walter Cronkite into Ken Burns.
	Right now.
	It's just you know, uh last night you talked about a little thing that uh a few folks have fooled America about COVID.
	Yeah.
	You know, I I mean uh Trump was a Russian spy, and America, the American government did it the same with us with Lee Harvey Oswald and the Vietnam War.
	Yes, absolutely right.
	You know, it is what and when we look at Vietnam, I I keep going back to one of the uh I haven't read your book yet, but you know, when you go back and you look at uh the fog of war that was done by Errol Morris, I don't know if you ever saw that or not.
	Five times.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's a good documentary.
	And he he he just has this knack of getting people to confess to things that you normally you would not expect they confess to.
	So he spent a lot of time talking to Robert McNamara, who was running this whole mess.
	And uh McNamara said uh he went back to Vietnam and they banged the the guy who was uh his counterpart at the time stood up and said, What is the matter with you?
	Don't you know anything about history?
	For a thousand years we opposed the Chinese.
	Uh and you're trying to tell everybody that we're Chinese puppets and it's a domino theory and all the rest of the stuff.
	And McNamara said, Yeah, you know, he was right.
	What is Vietnam like today?
	I mean, that I I've seen uh still some border conflicts between them and China, and uh there's a lot of competition there, but they've become highly industrialized, is that right?
	Yeah, China is the forever enemy uh of Vietnam, you know.
	That's right.
	They uh after more than a thousand years of fighting each other, and that's how the Vietnamese learn these techniques to repel the invader.
	You know, Vietnam right now, if you include reserves, has the largest army in the world.
	This shocks people.
	It's bigger than India, China, America, Russia.
	Wow.
	They are watching their borders, they're not invading anybody.
	Yeah.
	And you know, they're protecting their borders.
	Vietnam's for the Vietnamese, and they are growing by 8% a year.
	Vietnam is is so successful right now, and uh it would have been successful a long time ago if the French and the Americans hadn't decided to bomb it for 80 years.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know, it's amazing to think that they could get it that wrong, you know, that they think they portray Vietnam as a China puppet when actually, you know, they were they were always uh you know opposed to them and and opposition there.
	Now, you did this as a as a fiction book.
	You have done nonfiction before when you talked about Iwo Jima and the Marines that were there and flags of our father.
	Um why did you go to uh a nonfiction uh approach?
	Uh you know, to a fiction approach.
	Sorry.
	The book is really uh history as fiction.
	Everything in the book is true, but whereas Iwo Jima, you know, all the characters were concentrated on a little tiny spit of land.
	I had stories from all over Vietnam that I couldn't connect in in a storyline.
	So I just did it.
	I fictionalized it, but you know, so maybe I took a character that I have fighting somewhere where they didn't, but everything is from interviews.
	I did over 10 years of living in Vietnam, interviewing the people, and David, you'll be shocked.
	I'm the first American author to go to Vietnam and say, how did you win?
	You know, I caddied I caddied for Vince Lombardi when I was a kid.
	I'm a little older than you.
	Bart Starr lived four four uh doors down up at Bass Lake from the Bradleys.
	And for anybody who doesn't know who Vince Lombardi is, when you win the NFL trophy, I mean the Super Bowl trophy this year, you will win the Vince Lombardi trophy.
	So Vince studied when he lost a game.
	If the won or lost, he you know, we admitted it.
	And we studied how we lost, and we figured out how the winners won.
	And I'm the first author to go to Vietnam and say, you guys obviously won.
	How did you do it?
	And the answers are this book, Precious Freedom.
	Yes, yes.
	There's actually a uh a comment that you have from uh Oliver Stone who said, James Bradley journeyed to Iwo Jima and returned with flags of our fathers, now of interest to Vietnam and brings the precious freedom, brings us precious freedom, where he reveals that if we had known what happened in the 1960s in Vietnam, American mothers would have never sent their children to Iraq and Afghanistan.
	The truth is the best vaccination against great Lies.
	I think that's very important.
	And so by going with the fictional uh thing, you can cover a lot of different facets uh that are still very realistic at the same time.
	Uh and so tell us a little bit about some of the characters out of there.
	You got both American and Vietnamese characters in your book, right?
	Yes, I it's basically Chip and May.
	Chip is a U.S. uh Marine, and you know, Pete Hagseth got it wrong.
	They were in pretty good shape in the Vietnam era, you know, our Marines.
	It wasn't the fatness.
	It was the fatheads in the Pentagon.
	That's a good way to put it, yeah.
	Chip goes into May's front yard.
	May is 15 years old.
	Look at this little chick.
	She's 15 years old, never thought about war.
	Chip shoots her father in the head.
	May sees this, and at 15, she says, I'm gonna kill every American I ever see.
	And conveniently the Americans came in in helmets and uniforms, and you know, you could tell what an American was.
	So this May went out and snipered to death five Marines.
	Those are the kills she got medals for.
	And what is untold about the Vietnam War is the role of women.
	Here's a photo.
	This girl with the machine gun, can you see it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	She killed 174 Americans.
	Wow.
	Look at she's 22 years old.
	Wow.
	The number one marine sniper killed 94.
	We write books about them.
	Wow.
	You know, we herald them.
	But this is unknown that girls were out there killing Americans.
	And it was because of that thousand years of fighting the Chinese.
	And they went out and they had a plan.
	We we, you know, in America, the story is how did this happen?
	You can watch 18 hours of Ken Burns, and it's like, wow, this is still confusing.
	But if you go to Vietnam, well, actually you can't get them to talk to you, but I did.
	It took me six months of drinking tea.
	And if they if they part the veil and tell you they had a plan.
	They were teenagers, but they knew how to seize the initiative.
	This was not happenstance or accidental, that Vietnam beat America.
	They had a plan, they knew they were going to do it, and they executed the plan.
	Well, it's also the fact that they're actually defending their home.
	You know, that that's a r that's an important thing.
	You know, that's a that's uh a big advantage for defenders when they're actually fighting for their lives and fighting for their home, as opposed to people who are going because they've been told that there's some kind of geopolitical thing, maybe uh that maybe exists or maybe doesn't exist.
	I I think that is a key thing.
	I think that's a real big part of why we do so poorly in all these asymmetric wars everywhere.
	Yes, no, that that's if Ho Chi Minh, I'm from Wisconsin.
	If Ho Chi Minh had invaded Wisconsin, that war would still be going on.
	Yeah.
	We would never give up.
	That's right.
	I mean, m you know, me at 15 years old, I knew every alleyway.
	I could run at night for five blocks, jump over fences.
	I knew what doors were open, you know.
	So they were defending their homeland.
	That's the key.
	And I've been to Afghanistan.
	You know, I lived in Iran.
	This bombing of Iran that we recently did in June, that united the Iranian people like never before.
	Oh, yeah.
	And we already support your leader.
	If you a Vietnamese guy told me, he said, you know, we were trying to recruit people in this valley, this isolated valley.
	And they said, What's an American?
	What's the war?
	What what are you talking about?
	And then an American jet came and dropped bombs, and he said, We didn't have to, we didn't have to recruit anymore.
	You Americans got everybody in line with just a few bombs.
	You know, we've seen that in movie after movie as well, haven't we?
	You know, uh movies about you know the American Revolution or whatever, where somebody's like, I don't want to get involved with the civil war, whatever.
	I don't want to get involved until the war comes to them and they get uh attacked by one side unnecessarily now they get galvanized and they're in it.
	Uh I I think that's the key thing.
	You know, we lose our wars before they even begin because we don't talk about why we should be there.
	And if we go to a war for an unjust cause, uh, we are going to lose that war eventually because the people who have a just cause in terms of defending themselves are going to have the determination to finish it and whatever it takes.
	That is the most important thing, I think, is that determination.
	We know you talk about the morality of whether we have a just war or not, you know, have we been attacked?
	Uh and and how are we going to fight this?
	But when we ignore that and we start acting as the world's policemen, then what we've done is we've sown the seeds of a shaky foundation that isn't going to be able to sustain us.
	And and on the other side, they have a strong foundation to fight back, as you point out.
	If they had invaded us, we would still be fighting them.
	I think that's a key thing.
	I think we're going to be able to do that.
	But David, can I interrupt here?
	Sure.
	I'd like to say to your viewers and listeners, if if you could just back up and listen again to what David just said, that is the key to this book, Precious Freedom.
	They were defending mom and dad.
	Yeah.
	And they had a plan.
	And the Americans went and they were fighting communists.
	You know, how do you find a communist?
	And what is a communist?
	The Vietnamese I interviewed who were 15, 16, 17 years old back in the 1960s.
	The one guy told me, he said, I didn't know democracy or communism.
	He said they shot my mother and killed her.
	He said, that's all I had to know.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	And that's uh that's how we lose these wars.
	We don't we don't understand what we're really fighting for.
	So you you talk about a distorted revisionism that we've seen here in the U.S. uh define that a little bit.
	When you talk about uh the Walter Cronkite version of the war, when we talk about the Ken Burns version of the war.
	Uh how has your vision of the war changed?
	You said it took you a while to come to terms with that.
	Well, here is a real mind teaser.
	And I hope you don't mind if I use visuals.
	It'll it'll save uh blabbering on.
	But the American view of the war, if you turn on Ken Burns, Walter Cronkite, look at any documentary, starts with this.
	There was a North Vietnam and a South Vietnam.
	Can you see it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And there was a border between two countries, and we came to rescue South Vietnam against North Vietnam.
	So I go into this 85-year-old guy's house, and he said, Mr. Bradley, he said, this was all imaginary.
	The New York Times drew a line across my country.
	He said, I never thought I needed a visa to visit my uncle.
	There was one Vietnam.
	This is how they viewed it.
	There was one Vietnam, and we invaded the whole thing.
	So my brother was told, you know, you go train in the Marines, you go to the South Vietnam, and you fight for freedom against these terrible commies.
	But the Vietnamese never saw it that way.
	They saw one country.
	And if you read the speeches, everybody's giving, I mean, all the Vietnamese, they start with, there's only one Vietnam.
	There will only be one Vietnam.
	And they were right.
	If I drew a line across Texas, David, you know, I'm Canadian, and I come down there with a Canadian army, and I say there's a West Texas, East Texas, there's a border, your bad on the West side, the good is on the like, what are you talking about?
	We're Texan.
	There's one Texas.
	And you would, you know, down to your grandkids you would fight to have that reality come back.
	We what you said earlier about seven minutes ago, the key was not our veterans.
	They did a good job.
	Yeah.
	The key was our leaders set up a false uh a false situation right from the start.
	We lost that war before we started.
	What is uh now the um the politicians that were there, okay?
	So you got Ho Chi Minh in the in the North, and you got um the South uh Vietnamese government.
	Was that something that uh Americans created?
	Was that a CIA creation, or was that something that the uh so it didn't start with the French?
	Yeah.
	So CIA creation.
	What happened?
	If I could, you know, the French were there for 80 years.
	Roman Catholic Church, by the way.
	And you know, for the church, the French went in 1880s.
	They they couldn't control, just like us in Afghanistan.
	They had the cities, they couldn't control the country.
	Ho Chi Minh goes overseas to study the Western media for 30 years and then figures out how to beat the Americans.
	He comes back.
	First, they push the French out.
	Well, in 1954, when they pushed the French out, they agreed we'll have a temporary line at the 17th parallel, temporary.
	And they wrote in the Geneva language.
	This is not two countries, this is not a border.
	The French have been here for 80 years, and we're just gonna let them withdraw to the South, and then you know, to get the French on ships to let them go.
	But the Alan Dulles, the CIA, Dwight Eisenhower, Cardinal Spellman, Pope Pius came in and said, hocus pocas, CBS New York Times, make that a border.
	And hocuspole, look at there's this country, South Vietnam, North Vietnam.
	Well, we weren't paying attention.
	What was an Indochina?
	So I grew up thinking there's a North Vietnam, South Vietnam.
	I saw it every day.
	I mean Oh, me too.
	Yeah.
	You know, but we we we know people that think that there was a COVID uh thing that hit the United States, right?
	That's right.
	And that there's a vaccine that makes you if you take poison, you get healthy.
	Yeah.
	So what they did with us, Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, and there's these two countries.
	But the Vietnamese, the people there, tens of millions, didn't you know?
	What are you talking about, two countries?
	The South Vietnamese leaders had been in the French Air Force.
	They were traitors to the country.
	When McNamara stood with the South Vietnamese leaders, the Vietnamese looked at it and like, wow, we beat the French, and now here's the American enemy also.
	So it this is why it took me ten years.
	I had to unravel everything I knew about the Vietnam War.
	Yeah, and of course that happened not that long, I guess, after really uh maybe a decade or so after what we had done in Iran.
	You know, that's the other thing.
	Americans look at Iran and they remember the hostage situation in the Ayatoa.
	Well, they don't remember what's what happened with uh the the Shah that we put in power and the Savak that the CIA trained.
	And I've talked about that many times.
	Uh I I was exposed to that because I had the in the engineering school, there was a lot of uh um uh Iranian students who came there and they were protesting, and I was asking them why they were wearing masks, and they started telling me about the Savak, and it's like, what?
	You know, so we our history and our perception is so distorted by the media and so distorted by a selective starting point and the narrative that it is really hard to get to the truth.
	That's why you know books like this are very important uh to open up people's minds to understand how they've been controlled, I think.
	So you really kind of see this as a David and Goliath story, right?
	Well, the day the uh I don't know David and Goliath, uh, but it's a story of the Vietnamese.
	They're like if you if you poke a uh uh Japanese, they have a certain history.
	They have no ability, they've never been invaded, you know.
	They don't know, they don't they haven't practiced those arts.
	If you talk to an American, our history is not how we were invaded by Mexico and then the Germans invaded us, and then we don't have those skills.
	But the Vietnamese, that's their only history.
	If you're Vietnamese, you grow up with that history of you know, great-grandfather fought the uh Chinese here, and then your great-great-grandfather fought the Mongols in that river.
	I mean, I have a picture of a a guy who was 16 years old, about this tall, and he came and he sunk five Navy ships on a river using techniques that were A thousand years old, the Battle of the Bak Dong River from 932.
	And I said, you were 16, and you recreated a battle that was a thousand years old.
	And he said, Yes, Vietnam has a proud military history.
	Wow.
	So that's what they know.
	So if you want to lose a war, invade Vietnam tomorrow.
	Use nuclear arms.
	Use whatever you want.
	You're going to lose.
	Yeah.
	That's amazing.
	And I guess we probably could say the same thing about Afghanistan as well.
	They have taken down one empire after the other, uh, taking them on and taking them down in their country.
	So I guess they've got a long history of gorilla warfare as well.
	And they but David, why do we choose because they wear sandals?
	I mean, Pete Hagset wants, you know, short hair and no beards.
	Well, geez, you know, they call these girls.
	I mean, look at this.
	This is Ho Chi Minh.
	Okay, that's Ho Chi Minh with Geno Zia.
	Yeah.
	Ho Chi Minh is the military genius of the Vietnam War, beat the French and the Americans.
	Look at this tiny guy's with General Ziap.
	General Ziap is the winningest general of the 20th century.
	David, we talk about Eisenhower MacArthur.
	Ziap beat the French.
	He beat the Japanese.
	He beat the Americans.
	He beat the Chinese.
	Vietnam is the only country in the world to have defeated three members of the United Nations Security Council.
	That's their history is how to get rid of the invader.
	And we wouldn't listen to that.
	But can I just say something?
	Oh, yeah.
	That there was a United States Marine Commandant, General Shoop, General David Schupp, Medal of Honor, Tarawa, Medal of Honor, one of the worst Marine battles.
	This guy knew battles.
	And he resigned when Johnson wanted to go in Vietnam.
	And General Shu put on a suit and tie and crisscrossed the countries in the 60s saying there's no way we can win.
	Ho Chi Minh's the George Washington.
	So there was a David Knight understanding that the media was, you know, fooling the American public back in the 1960s.
	And it was being broadcast by a United States Marine Command, not some, you know, crazy Pinko, you know, demonstrating, but a commandant was saying the Vietnamese are never going to give up.
	We're going to lose.
	He said the Vietnam War is not worth one of our deaths.
	Yes.
	This was coming from a military man.
	And he was right.
	But Washington wouldn't listen because Brown and Root, which became Halliburton, Lockheed, you know, they uh they made out.
	Vietnam wasn't a tragedy for them.
	It was a profit center.
	When I was looking at it as uh as a young um as a young teen and then on into high school, it looked to me like you know, the military industrial complex was using it to practice there and develop weapons.
	I mean, I could see that even when I was in high school.
	These guys are making a killing from this stuff, and they're using it to uh uh as a testing ground for their military hardware that they want to sell.
	Yes, sir.
	And and that seemed like all it was to me, you know, when I looked at that.
	It's absolutely insane how we have been manipulated, controlled, and uh and uh misguided by these people who are the leaders that are there, and and they still keep doing the same thing over and over again.
	Now you got a fictional character, I think it's the mother of the main American character, the Marine, and she kind of goes through this transformation that I think a lot of people in America did.
	I remember when it first started, uh you know, my family's conservative, so they would, yeah, this is you know, we're gonna make the world safe for democracy type of thing.
	And then gradually it started to understand what this war was really about.
	And I think uh you've got a character that represents that in the mother, is that correct?
	Betty.
	Betty is the mother of Chip.
	And she, you know, is college educated, she's from Minnesota, and uh wonderful woman, gives her son to the United States Marine Corps, and then a guy, a funny guy By the name of Mohammed Ali says, I'm not going to kill Brown people.
	You know, this is an immoral war.
	And what she's shocked by is that the media doesn't report his words.
	And she finds his words from a friend.
	And she's like, why isn't Walter Cronkite saying why Muhammad Ali won't go?
	And then a guy by the name of Dr. Martin Luther King stands up in Riverside Church and says, the United States government is the biggest purveyor of violence in the world.
	This we are supporting a dictatorship.
	Ho Chi Minh is the George Washington.
	We cannot win.
	153 newspapers criticize Dr. King.
	But the key is nobody read Dr. King's speech because the Washington Post, New York Times, AP, nobody would reprint it because it was the truth.
	And guess what?
	Dr. King got a bullet in the head one year to the day of that anti-Vietnam speech.
	So this wakes up.
	They really don't not too concerned about killing people, are they?
	I mean, you know, it can be one-on-one or it can be tens of thousands of people.
	Yeah.
	And this wakes Betty up.
	And Betty slowly begins with a friend of hers who's a librarian to see that, oh my God, she's she's supporting this violence unconsciously.
	She doesn't know that she gave her son to this wrong cause.
	And of course, her son comes back damaged, like so many uh of all of the, you know, my father, he's a symbol of uh heroism.
	Donald Trump uh has got my dad right behind him.
	If you look at a uh shot of Trump in the Oval Office, the the Iwo Jima statues right behind him.
	My father cried in his sleep for the first four years of his marriage.
	I learned that after he died.
	My mom told me.
	You know, this is war.
	We we have got to stop talking about heroism and start to own up to if you want to go to war, let's have the Trump kids go first.
	That's right.
	And then, you know, the grandkids of Marco Rubio and Pete Hagseth must have somebody you know, send them all first.
	My dad was on Iwo Jima, and there were colonels in front of him.
	There were colonels getting shot.
	Come on, boys.
	They were leading from the front.
	In Vietnam, the colonels were in helicopters and in the back.
	Boys, you go out there.
	The military changed after World War II, and we still have not righted it.
	Yeah, leading from the rear, except that you know, Trump put out that picture of him as the Robert Duval character in apocalypse now.
	It's like if that isn't disturbing, uh, I don't know what it is if he sees himself that way, a guy who has never been to war and he's gonna be the guy quarterbacking this from from uh the back.
	And and when you look at just the the disconnect that is there and and the lack of depth uh as he talked to these generals that he summoned in there.
	Well, it's um truly is amazing, and it really is something I think the people need to pull back and take a look at what a just war is, and they need to look at our history of uh idiotic aggression.
	I mean, we're about to do this again in several different places.
	I mean, they want to go into Venezuela, they would like to get involved, I think, in Iran, but you talk about a quagmire in Iran, as large as that country is, and the history that um that we've had with them, uh lot of um uh pent-up anger because of uh what the uh CIA has done in Iran for a very long time.
	We just don't seem to learn those lessons, and it's a very important lesson to learn, isn't it?
	Well, why can't we learn those lessons?
	You know, you should be broadcast, you know, prime time, but you're telling the truth, so I mean, it you know, what you say about Iran.
	I lived in Iran, Iranians saved my life.
	I learned that Iran is Persia.
	Iran is not bombing, you know, Iran is not in uh bombing Baltimore.
	You know, China's not in San Francisco Bay.
	We could, we have, I'm out here in Mauritius in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
	And at night I can almost hear all the billions of dollars of equipment that America is pre-positioning here to bomb Iran.
	Like why?
	Why?
	Let's stop it.
	Let's make Chicago great, you know, put the money in St. Louis rather than out here in Diego Garcia.
	But this is what the book is about.
	That's why Oliver Stone said, if we knew what I found out in Precious Freedom, mothers would have never given their kids to go to Iraq and Afghanistan.
	Yes.
	We need to be skeptical of what the government is telling us when it gets us into these wars.
	And now I'm afraid they were probably going to say, and if you know people had known this, we wouldn't have gotten involved in Venezuela and Iran and start, you know, a war with China and Ukraine and all these other things that were trying to escalate.
	Look at how many different theaters we're in right now, and these are big fights.
	And I think it was uh Colonel Douglas McGregor said uh we're really picking fights that you know, we can't cash these checks, essentially, to paraphrase what he had to say.
	We're still doing that everywhere.
	It's incredibly bad leadership that we have, civilian as well as military.
	That's the story of precious freedom.
	Yes.
	That what uh the the reason I'm I'm talking about the book, and I'm so grateful that you're getting it out there, is it's not just it's not a book about the Vietnam War.
	It's a book about America, American media, how we are being fooled, military industrial complex, you know, uh, and how the world sees us and how we're taking our innocent sons and daughters and whipping them into these froths of what we call patriotism and sending them over to situations that they cannot win in.
	So, you know, but again, it took me 10 years to figure it out.
	Vietnam, you know, I thought of Vietnam as some dark place, you know, the jungles and they're growing by 8% a year.
	The Vietnamese are confident they will welcome you if you go there.
	And I realized Vietnam War was a tragedy for them, but it was a victory.
	They won.
	They have the confidence of winners.
	And, you know, I tip my hat to all the American Vietnam veterans.
	They did a, they did what they were trained to do.
	The problem was our leaders put them in uh a jar that was impossible to break out of a situation, and we lied and lied and lied.
	I believed all, you know, I'm 71 now.
	I believed many of these lies till I was you know, 53 and went to Vietnam.
	Let me ask you about Walter Cronkite, because you mentioned him a couple of times, and you know, Operation Mockingbird was very prevalent then.
	We know that he was uh very friendly to the CIA narratives and stuff like that.
	But at the same time, uh, as that was happening, I heard criticism from the right saying, you know, he's gonna cause us to lose the war because he's reading the names of the men every night that are killed in this war.
	What is your take on uh uh how that was that part of the propaganda?
	The Cronkite CBS.
	Just like all our prostitutes right now.
	They successfully, you know, uh go down the line so that the CIA will keep them, you know, in the chair, and they appear to be, you know, oh, this war, you know, people are dying.
	Walter Crankhike was uh went to Vietnam a number of times.
	He knew William Colby of the CIA, who was running the CIA operations.
	William Colby later admitted that the United States secretly, the CIA kidnapped 80,000 innocent civilians, tortured them, tortured them, killed them, eighty thousand.
	He said, admitted this to Congress.
	Wow.
	Walter Cronkite, David Alberson, all these guys knew what was happening.
	It was a torture program.
	We had torture centers all over South Vietnam.
	They knew, you know, but they they they didn't admit that.
	We bombed Laos, the There was an airport in Laos that was the busiest airport in the world in the middle 60s.
	Where was Walter Cronkite?
	Yeah.
	William Westmoreland, General Westmoreland was probably the biggest opium dealer of the 1960s, running opium through the Saigon Airport out to uh that was the French connection, out to the Mediterranean, washing the money in the Vatican Bank.
	This was all William West.
	What did what happened to William Westmoreland after Johnson kicked him upstairs?
	He went to be chief of staff of the army and he started to work on uh on uh Gladio in fighting the communists in Italy.
	This was a worldwide opium network that started, you know, in the Golden Triangle.
	They they shipped it out of Vietnam because we controlled it militarily.
	You're talking about billions of dollars of CIA money.
	So Walter Cronkite didn't know this, our top newsman, morally safer, couldn't figure this out.
	It wasn't on the script they were given.
	Uh yeah, when you look at Afghanistan and uh what's happened, what happened there with opium stuff.
	Uh you know, it's it's amazing that we keep seeing uh, you know, all of these different um that how they've used the war on drugs to fund their military operations.
	I'm thinking of Ron Contra and uh other things like that.
	Um the CIA is uh a whole nother story.
	Maybe maybe we'll do a book on them one day as well.
	Um so you know, when we look at this uh moving forward, um the um uh there's a lot of a lot of different characters that you're able to with a fiction thing, a lot of different people stories that you're able to pull into a fictional account that'd be difficult, as you said, to do otherwise.
	Uh tell us a little bit more about the book and your approach to that.
	Well, you know, Mr. Son was a V was a 21-year-old Viet Cong leader.
	The when I was 13 years old, I watched CBS News, and they said, here we are on Route 9.
	Route 9 is the key artery that cuts across the uh parallel to the DMZ and the Marines are out on Route 9.
	And I looked and I thought, wow, my brother's Marines control Route 9.
	So I go out to Route 9 years later with Mr. Son, and he I said, Oh yeah, this is Route 9.
	I remember seeing this in newsreels back when I was a kid.
	He said, You didn't see us in those, he said you didn't see me in those newsreels.
	And I said, What do you mean?
	Your nickname is the tiger of Route 9.
	What it why didn't I see you?
	He said, Because Americans shot all the newsreels during the day.
	He said we were sleeping during the day.
	Ho Chi Minh said, America has eyes in the sky, don't fight during the day.
	He said, I didn't fight in the day, I fought at night.
	It's easy to be courageous at night.
	So what I didn't realize is America never dominated Vietnam for a 24-hour period.
	I'll repeat that.
	America was never winning, not even for 24 hours, because every day at 4 p.m., what did the Marines do?
	They retreated and they dug a hole.
	They went back in, they put wire around, they put mines, and they tried to get some sleep.
	And that's when the Viet Cong came out.
	They had specialists trained to walk like spiders through these minefields and disconnect them all and then attack the Marines at night.
	So after the sleepless Marines woke up, the survivors, they couldn't go out on Route 9.
	They had to have minesweepers.
	There are all sorts of mines out there.
	The Vietnamese were fighting at night.
	you need night goggles night film to see the vietnam war from the view of the vietnamese wow and the other thing is you know president obama told a group of vietnam veterans you won every battle Well, what are you talking about?
	Ho Chi Minh trained his people.
	He said, don't win a battle.
	He said, we're just going to ambush.
	If you knock off the pinky of a marine, they'll report that home.
	There'll be doctors, there'll be, you know, Tourniquets.
	He said, you know, you just you ambush, quick in, quick out.
	The three quicks and the one slow.
	The three quicks, you know, uh get ready, attack, withdraw.
	What's the one slow?
	Prepare.
	He said, never attack unless you have the advantage.
	So if I was 15 in Wisconsin, David, I could figure that out.
	I'm gonna see this Canadian army moving in a bunch with helmets.
	I'm not gonna attack them.
	They could kill me.
	But I'm gonna get them, you know, when they turn the corner, they're not looking, you know, slingshots, get them in the knee, run away, hide in the bush.
	They were ambushing us.
	We never controlled Vietnam for a 24-hour period.
	Wow.
	Yeah, that's very different from what I've heard.
	I've always heard the line, like you point out with Obama, he's not the first or only one who said that.
	I've heard that from a lot of people.
	He won every battle, uh, but then they would turn away and leave it.
	You know, so that was their best case example of of trying to explain what was happening there.
	And even when they put that spin on it, it's like we had leadership that could win every battle and lose the war.
	What's what's the matter with this?
	But that puts a whole new spin on it, the fact that they're um they're pulling back constantly.
	And and of course the the Vietnamese understood that they were fighting a war of attrition.
	And um, you know, they that's uh because he understood uh America and uh he understood that um as you point out because they had a lot of experience with other invaders, it's that war of attrition, and that's how we always lose these wars, these asymmetric wars.
	We go in and try to occupy a country and uh turn it into what we want it to be, then it turns into a war of attrition.
	And uh that that truly is an amazing insight.
	That's um very different from what we heard.
	That's why it's important for people to see this book, I think.
	You know, and I'm a Wisconsinite talking to somebody in Texas.
	If I could bring up, of course, the number one game in the history of football, the ice bowl, 1967, Dallas Cowboys, Lambeau Field, Vince Lombardi, Bart Starr.
	If you look at the stats, the Dallas Cowboys rushed for more yards, they had more sacks.
	You could look at the stats, and that's like the Vietnam War.
	It's as if the Texas news uh media said, hey, look, we won that game in Lambeau Field, that ice bowl for the NFL championship.
	Look, we ran for more yards.
	Look, we had more sacks.
	Look at this stat.
	Look at that stat.
	But in the end, the Green Bay Packers, Bart Starr, Vince Lombardi won.
	And Ho Chi Minh was the Vince Lombardi.
	General Ziap was the winningest general of the 20th century.
	And I'm not saying this to rub it in.
	I'm saying it to if we had realized these things, and even if we would realize what happened in Vietnam, that's the source, you know, folks.
	There's a David Knight Gold.
	And David, you and I don't know each other.
	We didn't talk about this in advance.
	I would, you know, recommend everybody right now, take your dollars, go to David Knight Gold, get it, get some gold.
	Why am I saying that?
	In 1966, the Prime Minister of Vietnam told the New York Times, you're gonna go off the gold standard.
	This war is gonna ruin the dollar.
	He told that to the Times.
	The Times readers in 66 couldn't figure it out.
	71 Nixon goes on.
	It's because of Vietnam.
	Yeah.
	The reason we lost in Iraq and Afghanistan is we didn't look at the lessons of Vietnam.
	The the economy, the debt, the uh riots that we have right now, the government lying.
	These are all stories that came, you know, the seed of them is in the Vietnam War, and they're in this book, Precious Freedom.
	Yes.
	We keep making those same types of decisions.
	You know, when you talk about the the general who uh went around uh telling everybody that Ho Chi Minh was uh like George Washington, and that really is the way that they uh we won the revolutionary war.
	Again, defending your home, and uh it wasn't like they won any battles.
	I mean, they won Yorktown.
	That was like basically the first uh battle that they really won.
	But they were all wars of attrition, and it was it was like you know, the British could say, yeah, we got those guns and conquered in Lexington, but then they got hammered the entire time they were coming back.
	And And uh we need to uh think in those terms and we need to stop thinking like the world's policemen.
	And uh it it it we just can't get that through to people.
	Maybe you know, your book can get that into people's minds, that perspective, and and how we have just the wrong approach in terms of doing this.
	But again, I think it comes back to the fact that uh and it and things are only getting worse in this regard, that uh we don't have the proper kind of determination whether we're gonna get involved in a war.
	I mean, we look at the wars that we've had since um World War II, it's pr predominantly been because there hasn't been a real consideration or discussion of what's happening.
	We've been uh lied into it and pushed into it by the executive branch in a uh uh a supine uh Pentagon that it's there.
	Um it's interesting that you mentioned Westmoreland.
	I didn't know about his involvement with Gladio.
	I mean I've I've looked at Gladio quite a bit, but I I didn't notice that that he was there.
	And um and we should think about that part of it as well.
	I mean, NATO has got a an unbelievable history when you go back and look at uh NATO, not just the things that are happening in uh eastern Europe, but a long, long history of uh false flags and things like that.
	Um the book is precious freedom, and I tell you, freedom is precious, and so is life.
	And we have allowed our government to put them on uh a very low uh priority.
	They've got a different priority, and we need to start uh waking up as a people, and I think the important thing is is that we have to and you know when you've got a a a fictional narrative like this, uh it it's very powerful because you can get into people's feelings in a way that's difficult to do in a nonfiction book.
	And um I think that um uh that that ability to tell a narrative story like that can really affect people's hearts and minds.
	And that's what this is all truly about.
	That was something that was a big part of the Vietnamese uh the North the uh Vietnam War was the hearts and minds that they were losing.
	And uh we need to make sure that they uh don't have control of our hearts and minds again.
	And I think the best anecdote is to have uh the truth presented to them in a very effective way, and I think your book uh is is uh one of those uh ways that people can get that message out to people.
	Uh thank you.
	Thank you for giving me the chance to talk about it.
	Well, thank you for what you're doing.
	I I think it's very important work, and I think it's important for people to uh see this.
	And we all grew up in Vietnam and uh I think it's also important for people to go back and to question what they were told.
	And once you do that, that's a real eye-opening experience.
	And um so many of us have uh uh had that experience with Vietnam.
	I know a lot of people who went to Vietnam and they had that same kind of experience and were severely harmed by that, but uh our country was severely harmed by the Vietnam War.
	So again, the book is precious freedom, and people can find it on Amazon.
	Is that the best place for people to find your book?
	Do you have a website that you're selling it?
	Okay.
	Jump to no jump to Amazon.
	It it it will be you'll get it uh delivered November eleventh.
	It's being, you know, officially published, but pre-orders, you know, really help a lot.
	And uh it's you know, this is gonna have a lot of readership in Asia.
	Vietnam was not a small American story, it was global.
	Yes.
	It should be made into a movie like your other book was.
	Uh I think it would probably yeah, I think that'd be a great movie.
	It's a story that really needs to be told.
	Uh who knows, maybe Clint Eastwood will do it.
	He's he's still game for doing movies.
	He's not uh not giving up yet on that.
	But uh maybe we'll find a good director if there's any left in uh Hollywood, I don't know.
	But uh it'd be a great movie, I'm sure.
	Thank you so much for joining us.
	Um uh thank you, James Bradley.
	And again, the book is precious freedom.
	We're gonna take a quick break, folks, and we will be right back.
	Stay with us.
	Wait a minute, where am I?
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	All right, and I'll get some of your comments here.
	Um and I saw this Lance put this here to uh do you have any thoughts about I should have asked him about the uh Vietnam bank accounts and their digital ID push.
	Uh that I should have asked him about that, but anyway, I didn't see your comment there, Lance.
	That would have been a great question.
	Um High Boost says uh Vietnam was a distraction for the communists in America to take over the US government.
	Yeah, you want to talk about the domino theory?
	Let's talk about uh one bureaucracy after the other.
	Let's talk about one college after the other.
	Let's talk about college and kindergarten and uh K through twelve, all the rest of this stuff.
	That's your domino theory.
	That was what was happening while we were distracted abroad and fighting a kinetic war.
	Uh the commies were taking over our country uh left and right with this.
	Uh guard goldsmith.
	Ken Burns is a rabid propagandist, yeah, I agree.
	Um I really enjoyed his civil war thing, and it was totally fake.
	I mean, I enjoyed the way it w the presentation and uh and the music, the theme song from it and that type of stuff, but I knew too much about history to take it seriously.
	Uh I enjoyed listening to uh Shelby Foote every once in a while.
	He'd have him on.
	But uh and it was an interesting approach that he took with the still pictures, nevertheless, as you're you're right, he's a propagandist.
	His PBS docs are filled with misrepresentation, partial truce to push a big DC narrative each time.
	He just does great soundtracks.
	I gotta give him that.
	You know, he does a he's a good at what he does.
	Uh although the truth you won't is not there in the in the documentaries.
	Um Jerry Alatalo says a good follow-up documentary to the fog of war would be the stupidity of war.
	Yeah.
	Uh uh GDP 330.
	Does he mention the Gulf of Tonkin incident in this book?
	Israel can nearly sink the USS Liberty with zero consequences.
	Yet we go to war with Vietnam for supposedly attacking one of our subs.
	Good point, yeah.
	And um MacNamare admitted in the fog of war that that was uh completely a false flag.
	So he said, we don't know what happened with that, and we manufactured well could it have been this?
	Could it have been that?
	Yeah, okay, well then we'll call it that.
	And so uh, you know, that was the way they lied us into that.
	It was totally a false flag.
	Um replying to defy tyrant 1776 said America has no right nor authority to overthrow governments around the world.
	Every time America does that, we leave it worse off than before.
	America causes chaos, misery, And death all around the world.
	Yeah, and it is the CIA that is usually the ones that are involved in that.
	You know, they're overthrowing governments, and every time they do it, we wind up with a worse situation.
	Sounds like the globalists wanted Vietnam, says Tunnel Lord 1337.
	But regular people fought back and won.
	You know, you look at it, and it's like what really was their goal.
	I imagine it was kind of a neocolonialism that they wanted to set up a foothold there right underneath uh China.
	And uh because they did push that narrative that you know we were really fighting China.
	Uh that was really the goal that was there.
	It was just right now we're fighting them in Vietnam.
	But um perhaps that was what it was.
	Maybe they wanted a military base there close to China.
	Who knows?
	Uh Karen Carpenter 27.
	We have a lot of people whose parents and grandparents had to leave Vietnam and Laos because they worked with Americans in the war.
	Hamong people.
	Yes, yes.
	As a matter of fact, um, our daughter that we adopted was from Hipu, which is about a hundred miles from, it's in China, but it's about a hundred miles from Hanoi.
	And um when we brought her back and took her to church, there was a couple there.
	Both of them had been the both the man and the wife had both been in the American military in Vietnam, and they said, Oh, you adopted a Vietnamese child.
	It's like, yeah, I don't know.
	Could have been.
	They were so so close that you know, people were going back and forth between those cities that were there.
	But uh Gene X says the backstory of the relationship between the Vietnam War and oil exploration is often ignored.
	Well, usually there's oil somewhere involved in that.
	I don't know that story.
	Um CJ Prumble says, uh, what a disgrace that we have been post-World War II.
	Absolutely true.
	I mean, we look at it, and I I credit uh Truman for kicking all this stuff off because you know he was the one who started this whole idea we're gonna be a policeman of the world and you know we're gonna the Korean war and that type of thing, but he also created the national security state.
	He created the CIA, the NSA, and uh so it was really kind of his approach, and we have built upon that, and it's metastasized like a cancer.
	Uh B. My Valentine says there were so many demonstrations against the Vietnam War.
	I agree.
	And you know, as I started watching this, and as I started, my perspective on it was, you know, they're just playing at this thing.
	You know, it's like if you go in, if you want to take the narrative that I had heard all the time, not not what uh uh James had just said, but the narrative that we won every battle, but then we abandoned the fields and let them take it over.
	Uh it's probably um, you know, certainly on a 24-hour basis, that was definitely true.
	But I looked at that and it's like these guys are not serious.
	And they're playing with the lives of everybody.
	And um, so you know, when I I was already against the war, but I saw these Vietnam demonstrations by the hippies and all the rest of the stuff.
	I saw that as counterproductive.
	Because I'd see the same thing that I see now with MAGA.
	You know, you'd have conservatives who start to come around and say, wait a minute, uh they're just playing with our sons and uh over there, and they're not really serious about winning this, and I don't know why we're there in the first place.
	They would start to wake up with that, and then you would bring in the hippies, you'd bring in the dirty, druggie hippies, and they would start rioting and everybody, well, that's it.
	If they're against it, I'm for it.
	And we still see that today with the political fights that we have.
	Uh people will look at it and they won't think about the principles once they see somebody, it's like, oh, I don't like people like that.
	And if people like that are for it or against it, then I'm on the opposite side.
	And so there was this kind of group thing, and I really saw these Vietnamese these Vietnam War demonstrations as being very counterproductive to trying to get people to do the right thing.
	Adrian was right, says, paradoxically, the Vietnamese love American capitalism now.
	That's right.
	So much so that uh Trump feels threatened by them, and he's got his 40% tariffs on him.
	Yeah, Madeline Albright, a million dead children was worth it.
	Yeah.
	She's where she belongs right now.
	Yeah, that's true.
	They really don't care.
	They don't care about our lives, they don't care about the lives, of course, of other people either.
	That is the attitude of these people.
	They think they are a different species than we are.
	They think we're simply animals.
	That's a very dangerous thing.
	We see that in so many leaders on both sides of the aisle.
	Thank you for joining us.
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