The David Knight Show - Fri Episode #2094: Tucker’s 9/11 Deception: Controlled Opposition to Bury the Truth

Sept. 12, 2025 - The David Knight Show

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Fri Episode #2094: Tucker’s 9/11 Deception: Controlled Opposition to Bury the Truth

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	In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
	It's the David Knight Show.
	It's the David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Friday the 12th of September, Year of Our Lord 2025.
	Well, today we're going to begin by taking a look at potential wars and their outcome.
	Yes, as disturbing as it is to see an individual assassinated, murdered, and the consequences of that watching it happen.
	Think about uh this magnified by hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of times.
	That's what war is.
	You don't see every single one of the incidents, and you don't have a connection or history of kind of knowing that person as people did with Charlie Kirk.
	But it is real nevertheless.
	And governments think that they have the right to do that at any given time.
	So we're going to take a look at potential consequences of a China war as well as Venezuela.
	We have some interesting revelations about the judge who released this 14-time loser who murdered that young woman on the train as well.
	But we will also take a look at the amazing reactions of people to the Charlie Kirk killing.
	We'll be right back.
	Stay with them.
	Stay with them.
	Welcome to the show today on this Friday, folks.
	Hope you're all doing well.
	I'm going to give you the headlines that we're going to be going through now.
	We're going to take a look at general news.
	Trump calls his drone strike on an alleged drug boat self-defense.
	It looks more like murder.
	How China could bring war with Taiwan to the U.S. It wouldn't be just over there.
	That's what they're saying.
	Judge who freed Charlotte Killer didn't even go to law school or pass the bar.
	Surprise.
	Surprise.
	Apparently I'm qualified to be a judge.
	Actually, probably.
	More qualified, yes, I would say.
	Cracker Barrel served patrons day old biscuits and microwaved meatloaf amid ill-fated rebrand.
	Yum.
	Delicious.
	Yes.
	Well, France burns itself down about once a year, so Paris is Burning was one of the movies that they had about World War II when I was a kid.
	Paris is burning.
	And Paris is burning.
	That's true now, but for very different reasons.
	Well, Trump calls his drone strike alleged self-defense.
	It looks like murder, and this is from Reza magazine.
	And these are the assessments of people who were part of the legal structure of the Department of Defense.
	even people who were in his own administration previously.
	Last week, he ordered a drone strike that sank a speedboat in the Caribbean, killing all 11 people on board.
	He described the targets as members of the Venezuelan gang.
	Well, I just call them the Trendies.
	It's Trendy, Aragua, whatever.
	But they were at sea in international waters, transporting illegal narcotics headed to the United States, he said.
	Although the men could have been intercepted and arrested.
	Secretary of State Marco Rubio told the reporters that the president decided their summary execution was appropriate as a deterrent to drug trafficking.
	And so did Heggseth.
	And they boasted that this isn't the last time that'll happen.
	They didn't see it as a mistake, but as a new precedent of President Trump.
	The New York Times cited unnamed American officials familiar with the matter.
	So the boat appeared to have turned around before the attack started because the people on board had apparently spotted a military aircraft stalking It.
	And they will say, well, see, it shows that they were guilty.
	I don't know.
	It seems to me, especially considering the marks of President Trump, that people might look at the shoot first crazy Americans and try to avoid, though I certainly would.
	Who would run from a military uh gunship if they aren't guilty?
	That's right.
	Everybody now.
	And he's boasting about that.
	He said, um, Trump said, I think maybe even fishermen will have a problem that might think twice about going out.
	Is that really the way that things should be?
	Uh the attack crossed a fundamental line in the Department of Defense that is resolutely committed to upholding for many decades.
	Namely that, except in rare and extreme circumstances that are not present here, the military must not use lethal force against civilians, even if they are alleged or even known to be violating the law, said Georgetown law professor Marty Letterman.
	Letterman adds that the September 2nd drone strike appears to have violated the executive order prohibiting assassination.
	Well, wait a minute, uh Trump assassinated Solomon.
	Uh he didn't have a problem with that.
	Uh, and arguably qualifies as murder under federal law in the Uniform Code of Criminal Justice.
	I know that everybody wants to talk about Charlie Kirk, and we will follow up with the things that are happening with that.
	It's amazing to me.
	Uh it's almost entirely the news that's been taken up with it.
	And it is a tragedy.
	And it is not only a personal tragedy, but it's a tragedy that uh we have this culture, this cold war of hate now, especially between the two sides, but especially on the left.
	But we see this mirrored on both sides, where people want to just destroy the other side or punish or lock up the other side because of political beliefs, and certainly there are dangerous people, and they're dangerous people as we've seen on both sides of the political aisle.
	But um to just uh do a blanket condemnation of people, understand that uh it is not speech that is hate, it is censorship that is hate.
	And eventually winds up that hate eventually winds up with murder.
	You know, Jesus was right when he told us you've heard thou shalt not kill.
	But he says, if you have hate in your heart and anger in your heart, that is essentially murder, because that's ultimately where it leads.
	And we are seeing that in our society now, even though we decided that we didn't really care as a society what Jesus had to say.
	Uh the truth of it is being demonstrated to us now.
	And the reality is is that when you look at a government that doesn't have to uh go through legal due process, that is the most dangerous thing that you can have.
	That is the largest terrorist and most dangerous terrorist gang that you can ever have, is a government that has divorced itself from the rule of law, thereby divorcing itself from due process.
	I mentioned when this happened, I compared it immediately to what Dutarte, the authoritarian dictator of the Philippines, did when he told the police, if you see somebody that you think is dealing drugs in the Philippines, we're going to end this.
	Just shoot them on sight.
	And they killed 12,000 people.
	And so when you look at this, this is compounded the whole issue that I've had for a very long time of how the United States has uh you want to talk about Nazis.
	Uh what what was it that was uh people were concerned about with the Nazis?
	The fact that they started the war, right?
	They were the ones who invaded their neighbors and so forth.
	Everybody understands that's morally wrong.
	We don't anymore, right?
	It was understood that when Pearl Harbor was bombed, regardless of what FDR had done to stand aside and stand down and keep people from uh knowing about it and setting that up and his involvement prior to that in terms of taking sides in the war, regardless of all that.
	If you do uh an attack without declaring war, that was infamy.
	And it still is infamy.
	The uh principle has not changed, even if we have changed to where we no longer have principles, that is still the principle.
	And so what Trump is doing here is reprehensible.
	A New York lawyer university law professor, Ryan Goodman, former defense department lawyer, says, it's difficult to imagine how any Lawyers inside the Pentagon could have arrived at a conclusion that this was legal.
	Rather than the very definition of murder under international law, rules that the Department of Defense has long accepted.
	Yeah, this is a question to Trump.
	Well, I would say they're going to be in trouble.
	We'll let them know about that.
	We heard that happen, but it wasn't really over.
	Not like they described.
	But I would say, General, if uh they do that, you have a choice of doing anything you want.
	Okay.
	If they fly in a dangerous position, I would say that you can uh you or your captains can make the decision as to what they want to do.
	That's right.
	We have one.
	He said he didn't go over.
	Say it.
	How close did they get?
	You said the planes didn't get a chance.
	Well, I don't want to talk about that, but if they do put us in a dangerous position, they'll be shut down.
	Thank you very much, everybody.
	So we're going to now cover uh the G-20.
	Yeah, so what he was responding to there was the uh he'd made a statement that uh there had been some Venezuelan planes that had flown close to the ships that were there, and uh if they perceive them to be a threat, they could shoot them down.
	And of course, that's not really anything that is different or unusual.
	Yes, if you perceive a threat, you can defend yourself.
	These moral issues for governments are no different than the moral issues that we have as individuals.
	If somebody has broken into your house, if they are coming at you, you are allowed to defend yourself, even to kill them.
	But not if uh you see them and suspect them of doing something in your yard.
	Uh you don't have to do or if they're running from you.
	And that's the other issue.
	As this boat turned away, uh, then it makes it even more complicated because now they are certainly no threat to the U.S. military.
	They've turned away and they still shot them.
	Uh as Trump told it, the attack was justified because the trendes, a designated foreign terrorist organization operating under the control, he said, of Maduro, was responsible for mass murder, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, and acts of violence and terror across the United States in the Western Hemisphere.
	Uh so uh his own government, as a matter of fact, disputes the fact that the uh gang is under the control of Maduro.
	But I'll just say, even if somebody is known as a criminal, you can see them in the act of the crime.
	It has always been the requirement of government that you apprehend them.
	If we want to set up a death penalty for these cartel gangs, then that still means that they're not shot on sight on the street because of what that could entail.
	That means they still get arrested, whether it's by the police or by the military, and they and you uh seize the property that's there, as I said, the very same time this is happening, you had the Coast Guard stopping ships.
	And uh they are interdicting a great deal of drugs that are coming into the United States, but they don't execute everybody on board, even if they stop the ship and uh uh prove that it has drugs on it, they're not allowed to execute everybody.
	You still bring them back for due process.
	And uh if the government wants to make a capital offense uh selling drugs or delivering drugs, that's a different issue that needs to be debated.
	That is what we're where we are now, though, because we never debated making drugs illegal in the first place.
	When they made alcohol illegal or prohibition, we had the eighteenth amendment to the Constitution.
	There's not even any constitutional authority for the drug war, let alone to kill people without any due process or even proving that they are involved with the drug trade.
	Drug cartels have wrought devastating consequences on American communities for decades.
	He said, No, I would say that the drug cartels were created by the drug war, and the drug war was created by the UN.
	We're now out there murdering people without any proof to enforce a UN agenda.
	Trump said in a September 4th letter to Congress, we have now reached a critical point where we must meet this threat to our citizens and our most vital national interests with the U.S. military force in self-defense.
	So he's claiming that uh we can go on offense and self-defense.
	That's essentially what the Japanese were saying with Pearl Harbor.
	You know.
	We gotta kill them before they kill us.
	Uh Last week Trump joked about the potential for deadly errors.
	He said, I think anybody that saw that is going to say, I'll take a pass.
	I don't even know about fishermen.
	They may say, I'm not going to get on the boat.
	I'm not going to take a chance.
	This is the ranting of somebody who is nothing other than a thug.
	He's proud of what he did.
	He's proud of the fact that fishermen are going to be afraid to get into their boats.
	They're afraid of me, right?
	This is what disgusts me so much.
	But wait a minute, I thought everyone was okay with uh U.S. military boats unless they were uh drug dealers.
	Surely the fishermen wouldn't run away if that if they run that means they're drug dealers.
	That's right.
	So we'll just have to go on on shore and kill them if they won't get in the boats for us to kill them.
	That's what they really want.
	They want an excuse.
	They got a chip on their shoulder they want an excuse to invade Venezuela.
	And it will be mass carnage.
	Just just look at you know how disturbing the shot of taken on Kirk was Charlie Kirk.
	And think about that.
	That that's the reality of war.
	Many times it's even worse than that.
	Sometimes somebody doesn't die immediately but they die in agony and pain that's usually the case.
	Are we going to inflict that for what purpose?
	So that Trump can boast about what a strong man he is?
	It's disgusting.
	He's no different than the people that they have claimed were their enemies.
	Remember when George H. W. Bush called Manuel Noriega, you know, well, we got a strong man in the White House now, don't we?
	That's what these strong men do.
	Killing cartel members who poison our fellow citizens is the highest and the best use of our military said J.T. Vance I gotta say I would never support this guy ever based on that statement alone.
	There's many other reasons not to support him concerning his connections with the technocracy his um uh uh connections with MRNA self-amplifying technology and the rest of this stuff but that in and of itself shows that he is not qualified to be president ever and Rand Paul called him out on it.
	A commenter observed that killing citizens of another nation who are civilians without any due process is called a war crime.
	And he says I don't give a blank what you call it remember when conservatives do you remember when Al Gore made the statement there's no controlling legal authority here?
	Everybody had a big issue with that.
	Everybody had a big issue when Obama assassinated, using a drone, assassinated someone who was an American citizen technically, even if not in reality, in a foreign country.
	Said, oh, you can just select anybody, even an American citizen, and kill them without any due process.
	Because of the principle involved.
	It wasn't that the guy was a good guy.
	He might have very well have been a terrorist.
	But, uh, even at that time, conservatives were concerned because when it was not somebody that was a part of their party when it's a Democrat like Al Gore or Obama their their thought process is not clouded by partisan loyalty.
	They can look at the principles involved and the principles are the same here.
	So Rand Paul responded to JD Vance as I pointed out last week what a despicable thoughtless sentiment it is to glorify killing someone without a trial and that's what we're seeing from both Trump and J.D. Vance it is sickening and thoughtless Trump's justification for that shortcut is perverse says reason.
	Although he describes the act as an act of self-defense he does not claim that the alleged drug traffickers were engaged in a literal attack on the United States.
	To accept Trump's framing you have to accept the premise that transporting illegal drugs is tantamount to violent aggression.
	And of course to the left speech is tantamount to violent aggression as well.
	You know people always try to make that leap to justify what they really want to do.
	That would be consistent with Trump's often expressed desire to kill drug dealers but it is not consistent with the way that drug laws are ordinarily enforced.
	And when I see that I always want to put laws drug laws on in quotes, air quotes.
	Because they can't be laws if they violate the Constitution.
	And clearly they do.
	We have two constitutional amendments that made it clear, the 18th Amendment created alcohol prohibition on the 21st, ended it.
	We have two amendments to the Constitution that show that, according to the clear reading of the Constitution, Ninth and Tenth Amendment, they cannot assume the power to ban anything.
	They need a constitutional amendment to ban anything like that.
	So in the absence of violent resistance, a police officer who decided to shoot a drug suspect dead rather than take him into custody would be guilty of murder.
	Morally speaking, the situation is no different.
	That much is clear, even without considering the fundamental injustice of criminalizing conduct that does violence to no one's rights, such as the exchange of drugs for money.
	And again, this is a reason so they do not uh they do not support the drug war at all.
	Uh again, making a distinction as Lysander Spooner did between uh crime and vice, that vice is something that somebody is involved in that uh they do voluntarily.
	That's what makes it so difficult to shut down vice.
	And by that we mean things like prostitution, drug dealing, all these other things, which are really fundamentally moral issues.
	When you have two people that are willing to engage in this process, even if it is something that is credibly uh harmful, uh even suicidal, uh you're not going to stop it by the by enacting laws.
	So the uh trendy designation as a terrorist organization does not affect this analysis.
	Trump administration officials admit that they could have interdicted the vote and detained the people on board, notes George Mason law professor Ilya Summan.
	They did not pose any imminent threat of violence.
	They were not combatants in any war against the U.S. Calling them narco-terrorists does not change these obvious facts.
	As reasons Matthew Petty observes, the unprovoked attack on a boat allegedly carrying drugs shows how the label of terrorism makes everyone killable.
	And that's really what we're talking about in the aftermath of 9-11.
	The idea that uh, you know, you're either with us or you're a terrorist.
	It was a war on terrorism.
	It was a war on uh a tactic, not necessarily identifying the people who did this, and of course they tried to pretend that it was um uh Afghanistan and men in caves who did this.
	A ludicrous idea.
	Uh the rhetorical license to kill does not amount to legal justification.
	The State Department designation merely triggers the government's ability to implement asset controls and other economic sanctions under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
	So what they're saying is you label somebody a terrorist, then what that does is that triggers uh asset control and economic sanctions and things like that.
	Just like when Trump made the emergency declaration about the so-called pandemic, uh, it was to release money.
	So much of this stuff always has to do with money, doesn't it?
	Um it has nothing to do with authorizing the Defense Department to engage in targeted killings, which is why the U.S. military doesn't go around killing members of all designated foreign terrorist organizations.
	Nor can Trump cite any other statute that transforms murder into self-defense in this context.
	Instead, he is relying on his quote, constitutional authority as commander-in-chief and chief executive to use deadly force against civilians he perceives as a threat to national security and foreign policy interests.
	And again, uh engaging in assassination of foreign leaders and all the rest of this stuff.
	He needs to be impeached.
	They will never impeach him for the stuff that he should be impeached for.
	Uh and and the impeachment for nonsense charges, not violations of the Constitution.
	Uh, those types of things that were done essentially were uh are something that's giving him a pass when it comes to this stuff.
	People are so used to seeing bogus charges brought against Trump that they just roll their eyes when impeachment is mentioned.
	But if ever there was a president in my lifetime that deserves to be impeached, it's Donald Trump.
	Since Trump frequently describes illegal immigration as an invasion, might he decide that he has the authority to order the summary execution of people trying to enter the country without permission.
	Scott Anderson, senior fellow of the National Security Law Program at Columbia Law School, says many of the legal arguments the Trump administration has advanced in relation to narcotics trafficking might also extend to other far far more troubling uses of force that certain administration officials have reportedly raised.
	For example, the use of lethal force against unlawful migrants whose transport is facilitated by the Trinity gang.
	White House spokesperson Anna Kelly claims Trump, quote, acted in line with the laws of armed conflict to protect our country from evil narco-terrorists trying to poison our homeland.
	Nothing could be further from the truth.
	We have a group of sycophants in the Trump administration that will openly bold face lie to the American public to support their lying leader.
	It's amazing to me.
	Uh and that includes people like Carol Lying Lovett and uh squeaker Mouse Johnson.
	But even if you accept the specious equation of drug smuggling and armed aggression, it seems relevant that the alleged drug boat reportedly was running back when the drone strike was launched.
	If someone is treating uh retreating, where is the imminent threat, says Rear Admiral Donald Guter, formerly the top judge advocate for the Navy, when he was asked in an interview with New York Times where is the quote self-defense?
	They're gone if they if that's gone if that ever existed, and I don't think that it ever did.
	Rear Admiral James McPherson, who served in the same position as Guter, was also general counsel to the Army during the first Trump administration.
	And he was similarly skeptical.
	I would be interested if they could come up with any legal basis for what they did.
	If in fact you can fashion a legal argument that says these people were getting ready to attack the U.S. through the introduction of cocaine or whatever, if they turn back, then that that threat has gone away.
	He said it's a terrible precedent, said the uh uh Jeffrey Korn, formerly the Army's chief advisor on the law of war.
	He said, we have crossed a line here.
	And I agree.
	You got a lot of people saying that we have crossed the line uh and I think we have with a shooting of Charlie Kirk.
	Uh but this is a line that has been crossed and it is very dangerous.
	That's why I always call him precedent Trump, not President Trump.
	He is always about uh crossing Rubicons left and right.
	So when we look at this, how would a Chinese war with uh Taiwan, would that come to American soil?
	This is a question asked by the Daily Signal, which is actually part of the Heritage Foundation, a conservative organization.
	And so they're kind of war gaming, you know, what would happen?
	And they don't even get a tiny fraction of it.
	As we always say, you know, when you're talking about a war, whether it's a civil war or foreign war, everybody has a cavalier attitude.
	This is going to be a piece of cake for our side.
	If they didn't have that attitude, if they thought they were going to lose they wouldn't get into the war, right?
	If they cared about the cost to their own military or to civilians, they wouldn't enter the war.
	Uh so it's based on hubris arrogance pride and disregard for human life.
	That's what we always see with these wars.
	And so in this article, they uh say that think about all the different things that China could do.
	Uh they could start wildfires all over the place, for example.
	They could attack our infrastructure, which is incredibly vulnerable.
	As a matter of fact, we'll be talking to Jack Lawson today in the third hour about things like that and about some op-ed pieces that he put out about the about the shootings that were happening, not about Charlie Kirk, but about the school shootings that were happening and of course there was another school shooting happening that happened the day that Charlie Kirk was killed, but uh it was completely swamped with the coverage of Charlie Kirk, so nobody even talked about that.
	But um look at how the you know anybody who wanted to attack the U.S. today uh with asymmetric warfare, we have such a vulnerable supply chain.
	And that's first time I talked to Jack Lawson was about the vulnerability of the supply chain and why that uh showed a need to prepare for your food and other things like that.
	That's what his book is about.
	Uh and we saw that in spades in 2020.
	We have a long, complicated just-in-time supply chain that is easily disrupted, especially if somebody wanted to do it on purpose.
	Just look at what these people did arguably with uh stupidity, although I believe that there was malice involved in 2020 with the pandemic lockdowns.
	Uh I don't think it was simply stupidity.
	I think it was malice.
	But imagine if it was a foreign power like China, and uh with our poorest borders, uh they could easily do all of this stuff.
	They've already got enough people in here to do that.
	So um when you look at how vital Taiwan is to the electronics industry, for example, whether or not Taiwan followed a scorched earth policy and destroyed the factories to keep them from falling into Chinese hands, or whether or not they they did fall into Chinese hands.
	Either way, we'd be cut off from the major supplies of um top of the line state of the art uh semiconductor development that is being done, manufactured in Taiwan now, and uh that would have a devastating long-term effect on both consumer goods as well as military goods in the United States, but they could attack our supply chain in any number of ways.
	And so that's really kind of what they're war gaming here.
	Uh and uh that's over and above things like hypersonic missiles, which they don't even get into in this article, uh, you know, the the the primary tools of war.
	Or when you look at things like um which again, they're not paying attention to uh the change into uh autonomous killing machines like drones and things like that.
	So um there's a a lot of weapons that have been developed that we've not seen deployed in more conventional warfare, but it's the asymmetric attacks on America that could easily be the turning point with all this stuff.
	She reportedly told Trump that he won't invade Taiwan while Trump is president, but is also said to have told his military to be ready to seize Taiwan by 2027.
	So he's he's still going to do it in Trump's administration unless he thinks that Trump will die by 2027.
	Um cyber attacks and attacks on the infrastructure.
	Uh even disease, they say, and um this.
	But again, that is going back to the fake narrative of the China flu, which I don't agree with that at all.
	That's one of the things that uh the leftist press when they said controversial things that Charlie Kirk said and they go back to the pandemic and thought, oh yeah, that's interesting.
	What did he say about the pandemic?
	Well, he called it a the China flu.
	B he said it can come in through the porous borders and all the rest of stuff.
	All of that is uh what their war gaming here, but that is not what I think happened at all.
	It was self-inflicted with a bioweapon of the Trump shot.
	Michael Cunningham, who until recently served as a research fellow, the Heritage Foundation disagrees and says that China would likely would not likely use the virus as a weapon of attack, uh, since the Chinese could get harmed by it as well.
	But again, uh it is uh I don't think that any of that pandemic stuff is real at this point in time.
	Uh no one is talking about new military attack in it.
	But they said that once a war breaks out that involves the U.S. and China, then all of the worst case scenarios are on the table.
	Yeah, these people will recklessly uh rush ahead, just as we see them doing in Central and South America.
	One of the uh sorry to interrupt one of the funny things is that these Zionists on the right will relentlessly say that Israel has a right to that land.
	And then when China says, well, technically Taiwan was ours, and they are still ethnically a Chinese People, so we have a right to that land.
	They'll say, oh no, no, no.
	Yeah.
	If one of these countries has a right to one of these places, technically, China has a better claim to Taiwan than Israel has to Palestine.
	I don't support you know China taking Taiwan.
	But it has a better claim than Israel does to Palestine when you look at it from this angle.
	Well, the angle I look at it is uh the right of secession.
	I always what I'm always side with secession.
	If at first you don't secede, try try again.
	I teach her with that once upon a time.
	But uh, you know, I think the right of self-governance is uh is the real issue.
	Uh but um again, it isn't about respecting rights, it's about might makes right.
	That is what we see with all of these things.
	World war scenarios in which the US and China battle it out, or in which China manages to largely stay out of the war and gets to pick up the pieces and establish a new world order, can't be ruled out.
	And of course, a new world order is what the globalists want, and they've always pushed to make sure that China is going to be the leader of that new world order.
	Well, let's move on from that to the um war that's being conducted against us in terms of ignoring um the results of criminals when they are arrested.
	I mean, you know, this is I think one of the things that feeds into people's frustration, uh saying, you know, we need to just uh execute these people because we have a justice system, so called, that doesn't punish the guilty, but in many cases punishes people who've done nothing seriously wrong, if anything at all wrong at all.
	Uh the judge who freed the Charlotte killer didn't even go to law school or pass the bar.
	And by the way, uh this is um kind of interesting if you look at it.
	This is a magistrate judge in North Carolina, and they are not required by law to be licensed lawyers.
	They aren't elected either.
	Uh the way the process works, I'll look this up.
	They are nominated by a the county clerk of the court who is who is elected, but then uh, you know, that person nominates people, and then they are appointed by the senior superior court judge for that district, and then they are supervised by the chief district court judge.
	So the bottom line, all these people saying that this magistrate judge needs to be taken out.
	That doesn't get to the root of the problem.
	You should get rid of the clerk of the court, the senior superior court judge who appointed the person, and the person who supervised them, the chief district court judge.
	And we mean removed from office, not taken out in the uh other sense of the words.
	All those people need to be taken out of the job.
	They all failed.
	Uh, this is a guy who had, again, long rap sheet.
	Fourteen times he had been arrested for various things, and his family members all said that he was certifiably crazy.
	And none of them did the job that they were supposed to do.
	And when you think about it, this is like a much worse scenario.
	If it was one elected official that got in with a bunch of Soros money, then that would be one thing.
	But this is one elected official that got in uh probably with a lot of Soros money, and then gets to appoint a horde of other minions of uh uh this chaos to attack us continually.
	These people are still in, getting more people in that are going to do the same thing.
	Exactly.
	Uh the next step up, it's an order of magnitude worse than these guys that get in and just release every criminal.
	They're getting in guys that put in people that release every criminal uh it's uh Yeah, it's it's a systemic corruption, isn't it?
	You're absolutely right, Lance.
	It would be bad enough if this person had been directly elected with money from Soros, but there's a whole structure behind this whole institutional corruption that is there, which makes it even worse.
	Yeah.
	And this judge apparently, uh this magistrate who doesn't have a law degree and who didn't care to investigate the background of this guy before setting him free.
	Uh this individual was apparently picked because of Democrat DEI politics.
	Her qualification seems to be that she's a lesbian.
	Isn't that lovely?
	Yeah.
	So uh again, fire not only the magistrate, but all three of these people as well.
	Her real qualification is that she's willing to let murderers go free.
	That's what they're looking for in these criminal scumbags.
	That's right.
	I know I read this quote the other day, but I think it bears repeating again, the one from Alexander Solzenitson.
	Your punishment for having a knife when they searched you would be very different from the thieves.
	For him to have a knife was mere misbehavior.
	Tradition.
	He didn't know any better.
	But for you to have one was terrorism.
	That's how they view it.
	They look at this, they see this murderous, violent, repeat offender criminal, and just, oh, he doesn't know any better.
	Oh no.
	He just did he didn't he wasn't raised right.
	He's poor.
	He didn't have the right advantages in life.
	If you are caught in the smallest process crime, they will throw the book at you.
	You're supposed to know better.
	As a matter of fact.
	There's an article.
	I don't know if we'll get to it today, but I'll just mention it briefly.
	Um it was uh from the Mises Institute, and they were saying Trump's got a war going on crypto, his Department of Justice.
	This is the guy who is moving, it's now become his major asset in his family.
	They've made major personal moves into crypto.
	And uh part of him winning this election was embracing crypto and saying that the government had moved unjustly against Ross Albrick, remember?
	And he pardoned Ross Albrick.
	But now the Trump administration and this same guy, the same corrupt individual, the deputy attorney general or whatever, is um forget what his name was, who interviewed Golane Maxwell and then released the the notes and stuff, uh Blanche or something like that.
	He's got a woman's name, but he's not transgender.
	Uh that's his last name, I think.
	Anyway, uh the same guy has continued with prosecutions that were begun under the Biden administration.
	And they've arrested people who were software developers creating personal custody digital wallets that were outside of their system.
	Todd Blanche.
	Todd Blanche, yeah, that's it.
	I knew it was uh we say Blanche is uh doing this.
	Anyway, uh he uh they they're they're these guys are looking at decades in prison because they developed a piece of software, and as Mises said, this is like locking up uh a Ford CEO because somebody committed a crime with one of their vehicles.
	And uh that's not just an isolated case.
	There's two of these that they talk about in the Mises thing.
	So you've got somebody just like like what you're talking about, Travis, is like if the government perceives what you're doing as a threat to their power that they want to exercise, they're gonna put you in jail for decades, just like they did with Ross Albrick.
	They'll make an example out of you.
	Yeah, that's right.
	A way to chill it for everyone, make say if you do this, this is what happens.
	But if there's somebody that is certifiably insane and has uh been violent with people on the street, uh that person gets released.
	It's not at all, government is not at all about protecting.
	I mean, both those things serve their purpose.
	Both of those serves as a chilling effect.
	Yeah.
	You know there's these violent murders out there, so you don't want to go out.
	It makes you want to vote for more extreme police measures.
	That's right.
	And also, you know, it's just they hate you.
	So if one of them if this guy takes out somebody, kills somebody, sure, that's another bonus for them.
	They despise the average American people.
	The people in Washington are wicked beyond our comprehension.
	We continually say it, but it is hard for us to imagine, you know, the level of evil that these people uh commit to.
	Just because they're protected with the army of uh security guards and police.
	Everywhere they go, they have someone that is willing, uh allegedly to lay down their life to protect them.
	Or lay down your life.
	Yeah.
	And so they don't have to worry about this kind of thing.
	They live in these little bunkers, these walled gardens, these ivory towers where they can look down on us and our struggles and go, oh, isn't that isn't that wonderful?
	And that's what uh you talk about how the punishment for having the knife for self-defense is far worse than the punishment for the criminal.
	Uh it reminds me of the uh story we covered the other day of uh person putting out that if you look up Daniel Penny on, was it AP, there was one hundred stories about him uh criticizing him.
	But uh days after the thing, they look up this guy still nothing.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	And then they were upset that uh the conservatives had focus on.
	They said, you know, we gotta stop that footage from being released.
	We don't want people to know what's really going on.
	Uh that is uh in the local version of what national security is about.
	You know, the national security state is there to protect the government.
	It's not there to protect the nation.
	It's not there to protect us.
	It's actually getting us involved in one conflict after the other.
	So the last time this guy was arrested, uh he called 911 and claimed that he had been given, quote, a man-made material, unquote, that controlled when he ate, what he said, and where he walked.
	Police reported that Brown became agitated when the officers did not believe him, leading to charges of misusing the 911 system.
	So that's as long as this guy is absolutely bonkers.
	Uh they you know, you call 911 uh illegitimately.
	My question is, he said I mean he's insane, so he's not logically thinking about anything.
	But it's controlling what you're saying, doing, eating, thinking, apparently.
	Is it is it making you call 911?
	How are you able to call 911 and tell them about this if it's controlling you?
	But of course, when you're crazy, you know, you're not actually processing information or thinking about anything logically.
	He told his family member, I think it was a brother that uh when he killed uh this young woman, he said, uh yeah, my hand just took over and didn't have any control over it.
	Again, this guy is uh perhaps uh not schizophrenic but demonically possessed.
	Uh I I would say I'm willing to believe you.
	Uh let's deal with uh where where we are with this.
	Um anyway.
	Uh he'd been previously arrested for assaulting his sister and charged with possession of a firearm by a felon.
	But none of these things were there to uh put him in jail, and in addition to a five-year prison sentence for robbery with a dangerous weapon.
	Uh again, when you look at robbery with a dangerous weapon, that's not as serious as creating a an app for a uh digital wallet.
	Uh that's the thing that they really are concerned about.
	Uh so on Monday, North Carolina Republican lawmakers issued a formal letter calling for her removal.
	But again, they're not talking about removing these other judges who nom these other individuals who nominated her, appointed her, supervised her.
	They're going to stay.
	This decision was made despite Brown's extensive criminal history, which included at least fourteen prior arrests for serious offenses, such as possession of a firearm by a felon, robbery with a dangerous weapon, and physical assault of his sister.
	Despite his history of violent and unstable behavior, magistrate Stokes released Brown without requiring bond or imposing any meaningful conditions to safeguard the public.
	So the controversy surrounding this judge is expected to continue, the state lawmakers' way accountability measures in the wake of the killing.
	They need to go back and get uh Poulty or uh some of Musk's people to take some AI and go back and look at her entire uh career there as a magistrate with a fine-tooth comb.
	And the people who appointed, nominated, and supervised her as well.
	Well, um, we're gonna take a quick break, but before we do, uh you want to take a look at some of the Yes, we've got B. L. Houghton, who is Anastasia J. Casey, mysterious author behind the shooting of Charlie Cook book Sparking Intrigue.
	The book appeared on Amazon 9-9 one day prior to the shooting.
	I've seen people say that.
	I've seen screenshots of it, but the link is dead.
	You cannot look at it.
	And with the ability, as far as I'm aware, to edit the HTML on basically any web page and make it say just about anything you want on your end and take a screenshot of it.
	I am always wary of these things.
	Unless you can confirm it for yourself.
	I don't trust screenshots.
	There's an entire industry that's built around generating clickbait, and they're not above you know, faking this kind of thing.
	They're not above putting up some AI book on Amazon or having placeholders there that they can quickly edit and swap for different things, and then editing the HTML to make it look different.
	Again, it's possible.
	Anything is possible.
	These people are evil, and there's again, I don't blame anyone for not believing you know the official story.
	Yeah, we're gonna get into some of the uh questions and conspiracy ideas later on in the program as well.
	Yeah.
	It's just uh I'm always wary of this kind of thing.
	There, as I said, there's an entire industry that's built around sensationalism and getting clicks.
	And these kinds of headlines always generate clicks, and always question the source of where this is coming from.
	Bill Houghton, how could you know it was going to happen for it took place on Utah Valley University?
	Uh, if it is real, if it did actually appear beforehand, and then you know, that is questionable.
	But I saw the cover of the book, it looks like it was AI generated, and as far as uh you know, it looks like it's AI, so it looks like someone very quickly threw this together to generate outrage and clicks on articles for the you know gossip mill that has grown up over the years online.
	I have the uh thing that he had here.
	Uh this is the uh article that he linked.
	Okay, yeah.
	Uh, what's the website that's on?
	Times now world.
	Interesting.
	Uh yeah, again.
	That's what I've never heard of before.
	Yeah, I would just again it's possible, but again, I believe you can basically edit the HTML of any web page on your end to have it display just about anything you want.
	And since I've only seen screenshots and I'm not able to confirm that it was posted with my own eyes, I I don't want to make any claims on it.
	Yeah, well, uh, I don't know if it's true or not.
	Uh the author of this article says it was put up and then removed from Amazon, but screenshots of it when it was still up are still there.
	Yeah, which it's I guess part of the question would be what would the motivation be to do that?
	Yeah.
	You know, if somebody was involved if there was a conspiracy and and uh there was something like that, what what would be the motivation for them to tip their hand and say yes, there was a the people involved with this are all already mega rich as a general rule.
	They're not going to need the money they make off an Amazon book.
	That there could be, again, more of just the haha rubbing your face in it.
	But I tend to believe personally, this is more rumor mill nonsense to generate clicks for websites so that they can speculate wildly and say, look, we found this.
	I'm not saying that it's uh true or anything.
	Uh I don't know.
	As you said, screenshots are easily doctored, but uh if this was a legitimate thing, it could be a matter of someone putting up their manifesto uh preemptively.
	That is true.
	Potentially the leak uh manifesto from the shooter scheduled to go out at a certain time that then got removed.
	Who knows?
	Wally Walris, are we at war with Venezuela?
	Not officially.
	Not officially.
	And Trump's mind we are, and he's already laid out the plans that's been leaked that's out there.
	Possum again, it's the oil, I think, more than anything else.
	We do love ourselves some oil.
	Yeah.
	Possum King, they are above the law.
	Yes.
	They are the law.
	Pizzonovante, 1776.
	Vance is a Peter Teal created political puppet.
	Yes.
	I would have gone for a less creepy puppet.
	Zolocat 1980, Trump pretends to care about the assassination of Charlie Kirk while he assassinates people elsewhere.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	B. L. Houghton, oh, they got him now.
	Third one who had time to jump off the roof with no weapon, but found the rifle in nearby woods in a box wrapped in a towel.
	Yeah, I saw the video of the guy jumping off the roof.
	It's How'd the rifle get to that area if he wasn't carrying it when he jumped off the wall?
	Yeah, I want to know exactly I want to see a diagram of where everything was found and ever how it was all laid out.
	I want to see it.
	Somebody put that together.
	Yeah, I thought about that as well.
	We don't have the video here, but uh they just uh released uh last night the video they had released some stills of the guy.
	Now they've released some videos, and one of those is him running across the roof, not carrying anything.
	And then um uh and and that's very easy to see because when he gets to the corner, you can see it he's hanging there by his hands.
	So he's using both hands to hang before he drops to the ground and uh did not injure himself like uh what was uh uh uh booth right.
	Oh I'm looking at that booth.
	John Wilkesby.
	No, he had Converse makers which uh booth did not have.
	So let's not compare John Wilkes booth to this guy.
	That's pretty rude of John Wilkes move.
	Uh that's right.
	I need to scroll that up a little bit, Lance.
	But we've got con think.
	Thank you very much, Con think.
	He says Charlie Kirk was moderate.
	Yeah, he was.
	He was very, very centerline Republican.
	Things that would have been just standard common sense about ten to fifteen years ago.
	That was the thing that surprised me when I looked at this uh British article saying the five controversial areas, five controversial areas comments that Charlie Kirk made, and I looked at it, I thought that's pretty milk to stuff actually.
	It's uh just I've never heard Charlie Kirk say anything that would be controversial to a standard line of thinking.
	Again, ten to fifteen years ago.
	I don't agree with the stance on Zionism.
	I think that should be controversial.
	I think that should be seen as something that we should debate and have arguments about.
	But that's it.
	Everything else is just yeah, I kind of agree with that.
	Yeah, sure.
	I mean, across the board it was pretty much the position of the Republican Party, yeah.
	Especially under Trump, yeah.
	He was uh uh a big part of the Trump organization.
	And I think uh a big part of why Trump won, because Trump did very well with uh age demographic.
	I think it's largely due to Charlie Kirk and his organization as well.
	Yeah.
	B. L. Houghton got him a new Richard Jewel.
	B my Valentine says his speech was AI.
	Who who are they referring to?
	Uh I've seen people talking about this.
	Uh Trump put up a video, and in the video there's one spot where it's two different cuts, and they do what's known as a morph cut, where they have a quick crossfade between the two cuts, and because you're not going to be in the exact same position, yeah, it creates a sort of warping effect.
	Uh if you look at the rest of the video, it looks good.
	There was just one morph cut.
	Uh and that can look like uh an AI artifact.
	There are AI artifacts that sometimes look like that, but uh I highly, highly doubt Trump would have put out an AI video talking about the Charlie Kirk shooting after it happens.
	There's absolutely no reason anyone would do that.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Why why would he do that?
	That doesn't make sense.
	Yeah, um it's a l we um a lot of these people, while I think Trump is kind of a fool, a lot of the people surrounding him are while wicked, incredibly intelligent, and very, very good at cloaking their hand and their motives.
	They tend not to take risks unless they need to.
	Yona Annie Wode, at least that's my opinion.
	I don't fault anyone for disagreeing on anything.
	Yonah Annie Wody, good to see you, Yonah.
	Satanyahoo pronounced him dead fourteen minutes after he was shot and ten minutes before the hospital did.
	Amazing.
	Jesse Lee Peterson, amazing.
	Timed non tides, forcing masks on Americans broke the social contract.
	My neighbors voting to do that to my family is unacceptable.
	They are yes, they are violating the NAP.
	They are using violence.
	Well, social contract is a bill of rights in my opinion.
	I don't know, people since uh as one person said, uh I think it was uh I think it was Lysander Spooner who said the Constitution is a document I can't find my signature on, so I'm not beholden to it.
	But you know, these people who who are in political office take an oath to it as a condition of their office, and so it is their signature is on that.
	And uh that's what they have broken.
	So, yeah.
	Yona Aniwodi, presidents are just salesmen for Pentagon wars of bullets and peacetime bombs.
	Trump is a pretty good salesman for that sort of thing.
	I'm not buying, but a lot of people are.
	Don't frag me, bro.
	Israel cannot do what it does without the support of the U.S., U.K., EU, and DARPA tech.
	That's why they need people like Jeffrey Epstein getting blackmail on people.
	Yeah.
	So they can make sure that someone doesn't grow a spine and go, hey, wait a minute.
	What's the deal with APAC?
	Fonzi Bear morning, the New York Times and LA Times reported Kirk being shot the day before on the ninth.
	Amazon books released online, the shooting of Charlie Kirk one day before, complete psy-up.
	Again, I've seen people talking about the New York Times and LA Times uh reporting on it.
	I cannot find a real source on it.
	I can't find c pictures of an article.
	I can't find it.
	I've seen uh clips from uh Alex Alex Jones talking about it, but I haven't been able to verify it for myself.
	That makes it sus right there.
	Uh again, like I said.
	Alex will throw everything against the wall if it's sensational.
	He does not care, folks, about uh whether it's true or not.
	This is the thing.
	Look, I I'm not interested in criticizing my dis you know criticizing um uh Charlie Kirk over disagreements that I have with him over policies or personnel like Trump.
	Um he's not a danger to anybody now.
	And um there's no point in doing it.
	But it is dangerous if people pay attention to these influencers like Alex Jones.
	He is still a clear and present danger to people if you believe him, if you trust what he has to say.
	And uh so I don't like calling people out by name, but that is the reality.
	If you've got somebody out there, these people see themselves as influencers, and it is an influencer war, is what it really is, not an information war.
	And so these people are there to nudge you.
	And that's why the government protects them, does not charge them with a crime.
	The government's charging everybody with crimes.
	So just look at January the sixth.
	Did he get charged with anything?
	No, not at all.
	That should be very suspicious.
	Talk about that instead of his conspiracies about the New York Times and the LA uh Times.
	That's the reality of all this stuff.
	I also think it's it's interesting to me.
	You know, there's quite a lot of uh confusion and fog of war surrounding all this stuff, which in my mind actually lends some credibility to this not being a uh inside job set up thing, because typically when that happens, they have everything about the person, their entire life's history from what they had for breakfast that morning uh on.
	The manifesto.
	Yeah, uh, and a clear thing of this is what we need to do about it.
	Here's the uh solution, they don't, you know, arrest and let go three people.
	Uh so I'm not sure.
	Yeah, they're kind of panicking at this point now.
	That's one of the after effects of this is that these politicians are like, oh, we need more security, and we got a change of security measures and I also understand why people would be so prone to uh not trusting anything that comes up.
	The government lies continually, and the fact that this is an assassination makes it suspect in general, because in the past so many of them have been tied directly into the government.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So I completely understand why everyone is looking around and finding different weird things.
	Yeah, that's what I was about to say.
	I'm not saying that I know that it is an organic, actual event that wasn't put up by one of these intelligence organizations.
	But we just need to look at all the evidence carefully right now, because right now it's all very confusing.
	It's changing as more information comes out.
	Yes.
	Peso Novante, seventeen seventy-six.
	Death toll in Israeli airstrikes on Yemen rises to forty six, including eleven will women and five children.
	It's important um to continue to pray for those people.
	That's a key thing.
	Yeah.
	The um the the fact that they are not concerned at all with the starvation of children, with the direct attacks targeted sustained now for years against the civilian population.
	There's no justification for that.
	Nothing justifies that.
	Your understanding of eschatology and end times could never justify that.
	And I say to you that if you think that it does, you have missed the entire message of Christ.
	And you are twisting this eschatology to justify what he is adamantly against.
	We'll take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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	And um, we're gonna go to uh September 11th now before we get to Charlie Kirk, because I want to talk a little bit about that and people's reactions and comments on it at this point in time.
	Why nine-eleven truth still matters a quarter of a century on.
	This is from the uh Free Thought Project.
	They said the 9-11 truth movement still pushes on, confronting the lies of the official narrative, despite waning public interest, and it's just as important today as it was 24 years ago.
	It is seminal.
	I mean, you talk about crossing the Rubicon, so much stuff changed in reaction to 9-11.
	Even if the story had been true, uh, you could not justify the types of things that they have done in America because they're unconstitutional.
	Um, all I know about all this stuff is that the official story could not be true any more than the story about the magic bullet in a JFK assassination could be true.
	So it is based on an absurdity.
	And uh that that is the reality.
	You know, when we go back and look at uh as amazing as I said yesterday, Tucker Carlson is going to do a documentary about 9-11, the guy who was part of the cover-up, as far as I'm concerned.
	Uh, this is uh Building 7, which he said he couldn't talk about, or he'd get fired 20 years ago.
	But now he's gonna do a documentary on it.
	We'll start with this.
	Minor fires.
	But by 520 p.m., most of the fires have been extinguished.
	Although the building was 47 stories high, it doesn't fall sideways nor collapse unevenly.
	For this to have happened, all of the building's vertical supports must have given way at almost exactly the same time.
	Yet the Federal Emergency Management Agency reported that the collapse was due primarily to fire.
	But what does it look like to you?
	As a matter of fact, since then we have seen buildings, skyscrapers that were on fire for several days.
	Never collapsing like that.
	even when there's nothing left.
	Yeah, you only see this type of collapse in a controlled demolition.
	That's right.
	And especially in a building that was, you know, they never claimed anything struck building seven.
	There's no footage of it.
	They entirely claim it caught on fire from some debris somewhere.
	Do you believe what you can see with your own eyes?
	Or do you believe what you were told?
	Because these buildings were built to the standard code in New York City.
	And if a small fire is enough to take down Building 7, that means New York should be just about collapsing continually daily.
	This would be a continual event that you would be seeing.
	You'd be seeing skyscraper after skyscraper.
	And that's the bottom line is because, you know, do you believe what you see with your own eyes or do you believe their official story?
	And that is exactly the parallel that we wound up having with the so-called pandemic, which I've always said is the other shoot or drop.
	The two of those things are inextricably tied together from the beginning.
	As a matter of fact, the dark winter simulation, which was what they executed, practiced for 20 years and executed on us in 2020, that was done, the first one of those was done two months before 9-11.
	Then you had the false flag anthrax attack, then two months later, they put out the model legislation to get around the Tenth Amendment.
	And all that was required was for a president to release the money and the incentives to get people to do it at the state level.
	And that's what MAGA refused to understand about Trump.
	In 2001, you were a traitor and a terrorist sympathizer for daring to question the official orthodoxy of 911.
	In 2010, you were a wingnut conspiracy theorist.
	And while questioning the official story of 9-11 can still get you some strange looks in some circles, only the most naive sufferers of statist Stockholm syndrome still buy the entirety of the official story.
	Three years ago, the Free Thought Project published a crash course in 9-11 Truth.
	Seven documentaries you need to see to serve as a comprehensive introduction or refresher course for readers to become familiar.
	See, that's the other thing, too.
	It's important to see that.
	As he pointed out, it didn't fall to the side or anything like that.
	That's why when uh I've told the story, we didn't have television, and um we didn't have internet that was strong enough that we could watch videos in 2001.
	So I'm getting uh phone reports from relatives.
	I didn't even learn about it until the next day.
	Yeah.
	And I didn't see for a very long time ever see a video of it.
	Uh I would say it was probably years.
	I was focused on the text side of things.
	Very rarely we didn't have television any of this stuff.
	And so uh I I didn't see that when I was told that it fell down.
	Um I I couldn't imagine that it just fell in its footprint.
	I'm thinking, yeah, okay, how much of Manhattan did that take out?
	Because I figured it had gone off and and uh uh falling down across the the way.
	Yeah, even as a kid, I was only about nine years old at the time.
	I remember being told, you know, these two buildings fell over.
	I didn't know what the World Trade Centers were, I never seen a picture of them.
	But when you're told a building has fallen over, and you're told, oh, it got hit by a plane, you think, oh, part of it went.
	Yeah.
	And if you go back and you look at demolitions of buildings on uh YouTube, which I suggest you do, um, you'll see that occasionally somebody's taking out a silo or something, and it will go wrong instead of collapsing vertically down, it will fall over and uh wipe out a lot of things in its footprint.
	But of course, that did not happen here.
	So uh they said, yes, as yet as decades tick on, and the goalposts move, as the public is bombarded with a deluge of propaganda, social engineering, and manufactured outrage, all types of fifth generation warfare.
	It seems as though this ever so pivotal point in world history has somewhat fallen to the wayside.
	And I've done several interviews with um architects and engineers, both on 9-11 as well as on the anthrax attack.
	And they have continued to follow up on that as well.
	Where once 9-11 Truth was the be-all and end-all of Truth, Liberty, and Movement, drawing thousands to attend truth rallies in New York City and Washington.
	Led by the families of the victims often.
	Most of the public has since tuned it out.
	They've recycled it for another tragedy of the moment.
	And of course, yesterday it was Charlie Kirk that dominated the headlines.
	And instead of the, as they point out, the state sponsored murder of thousands twenty years ago to achieve their objectives, and that is to completely do an in run around the Constitution so they could have endless wars and the justification to establish the foundations of the police surveillance state.
	That all was the outcome of that.
	And of course, the other shooter drop was a pandemic twenty years later.
	Sorry to interrupt real fast, but it does look like they have who they believe the shooter is in custody.
	It seems like he was turned in by a family member.
	If what you know, this is the official story so far.
	Guy named Tyler Robinson, apparently he told his dad and his family or father turned him in for the shooting.
	Yeah.
	That's what is being reported right now.
	Hmm.
	As of 30 minutes ago.
	Yeah, nobody gets away with uh any of these things.
	Of course, we never know if that's uh for real or not, but uh we'll see.
	We'll follow that.
	This year's anniversary of 9 11 was commemorated a number number of individuals in Washington, D.C. Uh, and they said that over the course of three days, turning the tide, nine one one justice in 2024, and they've got a promotional thing there for it goes uh through today is a is the uh last day, began on September 10th, and today is the last day.
	And if you look at the people who are speaking there, uh I have some issues with some of the people there.
	Now I've interviewed John Kiriaku and Richard Gage, and um I think for the most part I would go along with what they have to say, Dennis Kucinich, and a lot of the people are going to be concerned with how this was used regardless of how it was uh who did it and how they executed this.
	But um you've also got people like Tucker Carlson going to be speaking there.
	And it's like, I'm sorry, but you know, as I played yesterday, I'll play it again here.
	That's Tucker when he's younger.
	Do you have any other building?
	Sure, sure.
	Let's start with the collapse of building seven.
	Can you roll the video clip that I sent to you?
	Okay, I'm not sure if we can, but they're specified Maybe there's some kind of uh code.
	You just don't show the collapse of building seven.
	I don't know what it is.
	They don't care if you think the earth is flat, it's not a threat to anyone.
	But if you say like, what actually happened with building seven?
	Like that is weird, right?
	It doesn't like what's that?
	Right.
	If you were to say something like that on television, they'd flip out.
	Yeah, now Tucker Carlson is going to take over the truth movement.
	That's the guy that they have uh set up to take over the truth movement.
	Um and then I see Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, and I'll just say this.
	It was Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer who jumped in with the Steve Pachinick narrative about the sting.
	That lost all credibility, in my opinion, for that man.
	And uh so when you got people like that speaking, I I just have to shake my head and say this is what has happened.
	They always co-opt these movements with their own people.
	In later years, it was the exact blueprint that paved the way for the draconian abuses of the COVID-1984 regime, says Free Thought Project.
	Well, no, they were always tied together from the very beginning, uh, with Dark Winter and the Anthrax attack and that type of thing.
	9-11 truth isn't just about seeking justice for victims and families that were who lost uh members.
	It's about seeking to dismantle the system that profits from these wars of expansion, domestic institutions of exploitation and oppression.
	It's about reclaiming one's personal liberty from the clutches of the state and fighting for a better future for all of us.
	So in light of that, I gotta say, be careful of these nudge news influencers.
	It it really concerns me that Tucker Carlson is going to now take over the 9-11 movement.
	And anything this guy does, everybody flocks to him and it becomes the new baseline of people's understanding.
	So he's going to completely rewrite all these investigations that have been done for the longest amount of time.
	That's what's going to be happening in the future with 9-11.
	And um I thought it was this is from Wall Street Journal, and it is not about 9 11 at all.
	But that the headline was The Rise of Conspiracy Physics.
	And it made me think of Building 7 and the fact that Tucker Carlson never wanted to talk about it.
	And he wouldn't just say I'd get fired if I did something like that.
	He would actually oppose these people.
	And he'd say all they want to do is talk to me about, you know, what is the melting point of steel and what is the temperature of burning air airplane uh fuel and things like that.
	He didn't want to look at that.
	He didn't want to look at the physics of a building that falls into its own footprints.
	Isn't that weird?
	Yeah.
	Isn't that weird?
	And of course, there's also the disappearing plane at the Pentagon that was there.
	The 9 11 attacks exposed major government failure, but Americans learned the wrong lessons.
	Uh and this is kind of this is from the Mises.org, and I was disappointed in this article.
	I gotta say it was a tremendous success.
	It was not a failure.
	Just like our schools are a tremendous success, not a failure.
	Uh they are opposed to anything that we would ever want to have, and but um that it's exactly they're doing what exactly what they were designed to do.
	And I gotta say that, you know, their their position is, of course, that the official story is true, but the government reaction is wrong.
	And that was where I was until I saw the pictures of what happened there.
	It's like, no, no, no, we don't want to have the Patriot Act.
	That is a horrible response.
	Even if every word that they said were true, that was the wrong response.
	But uh that's not it was not a failure.
	It was a failure to understand and still is a failure to understand on the part of many.
	Uh said, while the Bush administration claimed the attacks occurred because of structural problems with the government's intelligence apparatus.
	FBI agents were warned about the suspicious activity by flight students who were among the 9-11 hijackers.
	Again, this is a part of the mythology, but also part of the preparation as well.
	Um they should have uh been concerned when somebody developed indestructible identification cards.
	Exactly.
	What kind of paper is that?
	And of course, the but they focus on the response that would have been wrong.
	Again, whoever wrote this article at Mises takes the government story at face value and believes it.
	And even if you did that, the global war on terror is the wrong response.
	Uh just like when we look at if the pandemic were real, Trump's response was exactly the wrong response.
	And uh so again, it is always um even if the even if their lies were true, what they decided to do was the wrong thing.
	Um that feeling that we were really all one people, and I gotta say, that this is from the Epic Times, remembering 9-11.
	You know, when we were all on the same page and we were all pulling together, that is why they take us to war.
	Because when you have war, it unites the people behind the government against the outside nebulous enemy.
	When in reality, in most cases, it is the government that is causing the war, the government that is taking you to war simply because, as Gerald Salenti has said so many times, when all else fails and you're about to come after the government, they take you to war so that you'll rally behind them.
	This is what we're seeing Netanyahu doing.
	It's a big part of what he did in Israel.
	Uh scientists sound the alarm and expose the deadly COVID vaccine side effects that have been scrubbed from uh federal data.
	And again, is this another government mistake?
	Or is this a deliberate conspiracy?
	I am not a coincidence theorist.
	I don't believe these things are coincidences.
	A world-renowned scientist has just blown the lid off a safe and effective narrative for the COVID vaccines, the Trump shots, after uncovering shocking data scrubbed from the federal government safety database.
	They hid thousands of safety signals from the public.
	But I gotta say, how did we know?
	We knew at this time, because we knew that this stuff A had not been tested.
	They bragged about the fact that they're going to rush it to market.
	We knew that it was a genetic code injection that had never been tested, and then we saw very early on.
	I remember when it's like, look at this, we've got enough reports in the VARES database.
	It's the same as they would get for an entire year, and it's only been a couple of days or weeks or something like that.
	And then before you know it, uh it kept escalating, and then it was equivalent to several years of the database, and then it was more than all of the adverse effects that have been recorded in the VAIRES database since they had begun it.
	How could you not know that this was harmful?
	Uh so yes, at the same time they were hiding these safety signals, and um they said, even more disturbing.
	The FDA system missed an estimated 96% of Pfizer's and 91% of Moderna's safety signals.
	That amounts to as many as 6,765 safety signals effectively lost.
	So why is it still there?
	Why is it that the Trump administration that RFK Jr. and all these MAGA Maha Health officials have not shut this thing down.
	As we said before, if you have a baby's crib that causes a couple of injuries or death, they shut that thing down.
	Sixty seven uh uh hundred safety signals, and it's still out there.
	Wiseman argues this wasn't a minor oversight.
	Whoops.
	That is the biggest understatement I've ever seen.
	He said regulators used high thresholds that filtered out early alerts and ignored the masking effects where signals from one vaccine can hide signals from another.
	Look, they've been doing this with autism, they do it with everything.
	And uh it is a deliberate program, and we need to understand that, or we'll never make any sense of what the government is doing.
	So again, it was not don't allow them to say that it was a good faith effort.
	It was never a good faith effort.
	And it was not they didn't do their best to save us from a lab leak deadly virus.
	Don't buy into that.
	These are these same influencers who are trying to tell you that the that the pandemic was real, that it was dangerous, that the PCR procedures were real and all the rest of this stuff.
	Everything about it was fake, phony, and these new narratives that they're pushing so hard, and I say new, there were some people who were pushing that from the very beginning, interestingly, but um they uh has now become the establishment push that yeah, you know, Fauci rigged this stuff, and he was the one who was responsible.
	He and the Chinese.
	And so this is uh about projecting this onto them so that you don't come after the real criminals.
	Comments on here.
	Yes, Radist Bro.
	Thank you very much for that, Radis Bro.
	Thank you.
	Says, willing to bet it's an angry leftist kid who hates his parents and the FBI is just being distracted while the real killer will never be found.
	What they're reporting is that the father saw the pictures that were released of the suspect, confronted the son, and the son admitted it to him.
	That's what's being reported so far.
	But again, with everything the way it is, who knows?
	The official story is who knows.
	Well, first of all, you know they're gonna find the guy.
	They always find the guy whether they find the guy or not.
	That was one of the things Errol Morris's first documentaries was the thin blue line, and it was about a guy who was on death row.
	And he started out to do a uh documentary just on people who are on death row.
	And uh, as he started interviewing this particular guy, he got interested in this case.
	The guy, of course, everybody insists that they are innocent, but um this guy he found to be very convincing.
	And um, he started interviewing people, and Errol Morris, when he would interview people, the documentary, he used to be an investigator, a detective himself and he had something he called an interatron, which was an interesting technique.
	What he would do instead of talking to people face to face, he would separate himself from them a little bit by using a teleprompter.
	And so the people would be looking at him and talking to him in the teleprompter.
	And by having that distance that was there, there uh of course he was also very good interrogator as well.
	But he believed that that helped to get them to open up and to disarm them because it was almost like they were, you know, talking to something that wasn't there, wasn't real.
	I guess maybe there's an aspect of that's involved in the AI psychosis stuff that's out there.
	But uh it got it kind of got proven when he interviewed uh Robert McNamara for his film The Fog of War, and over a couple of days basically McNamara admitted it was Vietnam started over a false flag and that he was a war criminal and many other things.
	It was truly amazing what he got him to admit to.
	And so, as part of this, uh Errol Morris got the real killer to admit that he had done it.
	And the reason I say they'll always find the man is because it involved a police officer who was shot and killed.
	They do not want you to see that a uh the killer of a police officer goes free and isn't caught.
	So they're gonna catch somebody, whether it's the right person or not.
	And that is clearly the case with Charlie Kirk, they will catch somebody whether it's the right person or not.
	You're gonna make sure somebody pays for the crime.
	Yeah.
	You look at what happened with that old guy.
	When I first saw that, I thought it was just a matter of you know, them grabbing some random person.
	Uh, but I later heard that this guy was uh as soon as the shooting happens, he's yelling out like uh I have the right to remain silent, somebody shoot me, and uh, you know, drawing all the attention to himself.
	Yes.
	Uh that was I think the most suspicious thing about all this, it's like he was he was uh yeah, I'm the one who did everybody rushed on everybody on the spot because the police started carrying him off, thought that maybe he was the one who had done it.
	Yeah, I mean, at the very least, they need to rearrest this guy and charge him as an accessory after the fact that he's not involved with it, because if you're trying to help this guy escape, that itself is a serious crime, even if you had no prior prior knowledge.
	Yeah, yeah, that's right.
	A culty sim.
	Also, headlines are made in newspapers before the shooting.
	I lost the link.
	Interesting.
	If you find the link, you send it on over.
	KWD68, Charlie Kirk made some statements against Israel in recent months.
	Masad murdered him, and he puts the link there.com.
	Uh Charlie Kirk, chilling warning, if I'm assassinated, it will be his real.
	Yeah, I actually saw him questioning Israel.
	Yeah, I saw some people saying that he was questioning them, and I didn't believe it at first because every clip I'd ever seen of Charlie Kirk, he's always been very pro-Israel, but he had a few clips criticizing them and questioning him.
	Yeah, yeah, we even we even played that clip a couple of weeks ago that somebody put up um uh portraying him as the ultimate uh apologist for Israel in a satirical way.
	And um again, I didn't follow Charlie Kirk that that closely.
	I don't follow anybody that closely in terms of their comments on things.
	Um but uh yeah, that I mean, if they're going to um when you look at the history uh of this organization that's there, you look at Mossad, look at the IDF, you look at what they're doing in Gaza, uh, they're capable of anything, frankly.
	Yeah.
	And I don't know they did it, that doesn't mean they did it, but I do know they're capable of it.
	They're capable of it and have a long history of killing people.
	As is the US government.
	There's a long list of suspects.
	You know, if it fit their agenda, I wouldn't be surprised if the Trump administration had him killed if it fit their agenda.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I mean, if if they wanted to use him for some purpose, his death for some purpose.
	Um that's what I think of the Trump administration.
	That's my low opinion of them.
	I think that they have no moral restraints.
	Certainly there's no legal restraints, they brag about that.
	Yeah, I certainly wouldn't put it past them on a moral standpoint.
	Uh it's just strange to me, like what I was just saying, how with most uh false flag attacks there's a clear narrative that they're ready to push right from the moment it happens.
	Uh they've got the guy, they've got his motive, and they've got the solution ready to go.
	As they did with 9-11, yeah.
	Oh, yeah, we know it's opa-song bin Laden.
	Con think the recovered rifle does not match the photo of the rooftop shooter.
	I haven't seen any photos of it.
	I'd be very curious.
	If you're able to find some photos, Lance, please pull them up.
	Guard Goldsmith of New York and LA Times really had been reporting that Charlie Kirk was shot prior to the event, those reports would have been everywhere, and Kirk's supporters would have been appropriately excoriating him.
	I agree.
	That's kind of my opinion on it.
	I think these were probably generated for clicks.
	Yeah, when you look at how, you know, when the reports were Charlie Kirk shot, I mean that was like you know, everybody knows Charlie Kirk is.
	I mean there's even one of the reactions that I have here is uh someone in the UK talking about uh their young son and how he knew about Charlie Kirk.
	Yeah.
	He was so well known that anybody any major paper reporting something like that.
	It goes everywhere all at once.
	Yeah.
	You'll see these occasionally point guard you'll see these occasionally fake headlines where it's you know certain celebrity dies and they have they get traction for a few hours, maybe a full day before the celebrity comes out and says I'm alive guys.
	So even when it's obviously fake stuff something like that explodes and it becomes fairly big news and someone like Charlie Kirk, as you saw the second it happened it was everywhere.
	So a report on it, even if it was fake would have immediately come out and it would have been you know Kirk would have made a statement I'm not dead.
	I'm still going and his fans as guard points out would have been screaming at the New York and LA Times.
	B.L Houghton when Trump's FBI moves Ghlain Maxwell to a country club prison that speaks volumes.
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah it does.
	We are all dead.
	There are about five thousand red flags in the shooting.
	Everyone needs to calm down one thing I think it's important to remember is that um it takes a crazy person to do something like this.
	Every assassination is going to have weird things around it because to do this sort of thing you gotta be a a weird individual to say the least so just always remember that well balanced normal people who do well balanced normal things don't commit murder and assassination.
	So there's always going to be very strange happenings around it because it's done by very strange, very disturbed that was always a problem I had with the insanity plea, right?
	It's like okay, so you know you're admitting that you killed this person but you were insane.
	Maybe temporarily even which is even more ridiculous and it's like murder by definition is insanity.
	So what is new about this and how is that an excuse?
	Yes, you are insane and we don't want you back out on the street.
	Again I don't fault anyone for whatever they believe about the shooting there have been so many lies by the government and the media about everything all the time that every theory to me is still somewhat on the table.
	Well maybe not every theory but I haven't seen anyone that has been completely and utterly outrageous.
	BL Houghton which I already read that one.
	We are all dead read that one Jerry Alotalo are Anastasia J Casey's book is self-published yeah Amazon makes it very very easy to self-publish books now so you don't have to go through a publishing company which means that there is about a million different AI generated slop books that show up a day on Amazon.
	They're continually just churning out the lowest effort you know chat GPT give me this and they just line by line you know passage by passage have chat GBT basically spit out a book and then slap it directly onto Amazon.
	There's again thousands upon thousands upon thousands of them and there's more every day.
	It is really really easy apparently to get a book on Amazon.
	Yeah and I uh clicked through the link that he sent and uh interestingly this shows that it was published on September 10th and like you said with AI if you don't care about the quality you can spit one of these things out in less than a day.
	I've seen YouTube videos of people looking at actually published books that some people have purchased and it's like this is clearly just the pure output from an AI.
	They didn't edit it at all.
	It's got chapters that are basically the exact same thing over and over again.
	So it showed that it was published the day of the shooting, not the day before.
	Yeah, that link shows it's published day of, which, again, this could be probably was going to be a very short book based on the fact.
	And with AI, you could get it to spit out something like that incredibly quickly.
	Just summarize all the news events for you and slam it into a book.
	On thank prediction, the suspect doesn't live long enough to testify under oath.
	That is something.
	You know, that's always.
	saw with I remember I was young when I was like eight years old, I think, when uh Kennedy was shot.
	And um it was right at Thanksgiving.
	So our extended families together.
	So we had a lot of people that were there when Lee Harvey Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby to keep him uh quiet.
	And uh that was such a wake-up call to uh everyone and that generation and everyone in my family.
	I mean, they were all talking about that.
	That's when uh I guess when I became a conspiracy theorist.
	But uh the uh you know now they have typically um if if they've got like some kind of an MK ultra shooter or something like that, they'll make sure that they kill themselves to so that uh it doesn't bring someone like Jolly West in to make sure you end up offing yourself.
	Yeah, uh Jack or at the at the site of the crime or something, you know.
	It's uh that is less suspicious to the public than the Jack Ruby versus Lee Harvey Oswald, that type of thing.
	That is a real tip-off to everybody when they do that.
	Yeah.
	Brian Deb McCartney, and they plant weird things to throw you off the trail too.
	Yeah, there's always strange things.
	Don't frag me, bro.
	The entire power structure has a reason to murder anyone with real influence that can undermine their grand narrative and ultimate goals, not just Israel.
	That's right.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	Star Barkley, you can very clearly see he has a gun in a cover.
	He put the gun down and then jumped with it.
	You can see it very clearly.
	You can see he injured himself.
	He's limping.
	I need to see a more up close version of it.
	I've haven't been able to actually watch it on a large monitor.
	It's a bit far away.
	But I'll have to look at that.
	If you say you can see the gun there, I'm not gonna dispute it.
	I need to take a closer look.
	Frodo lives, outlaw, order, p outlaw outdoor political events.
	That's right.
	No more being out in the sun.
	You must huddle in your basements.
	Stealth Patriot, Charlie was doing it at schools, too much of a threat to the system.
	That's the one.
	I had a clip that I wanted to show of him engaging the student audience, and I couldn't go back and find it.
	And it was uh, you know, he would take questions from the audience.
	There's one guy said, uh, what credentials do you have to even talk about economics?
	And he he asked the guy, he says, Um, so you said, Yeah, I'm an economic student.
	So you say, you know, Milton Friedman is no, I don't know.
	Do you know where Lugby who Ludwig von Mises is or uh F.A. Hayek and he started going down this whole list.
	Most of them free market or Austrian economists.
	He'd never heard of them.
	Finally he got to um, but he mentioned some other economists who only got to uh John Maynard Keynes, and of course this guy had heard about him because they hammer Keynesian economics in the schools and but the guy was just such an idiot.
	And Charlie was proud of the fact he goes, yeah, that's right.
	I don't have a college degree.
	As a matter of fact, he says, I dropped out of college out of a junior college, even.
	You know, so he he emphasized the fact that he was self-taught, but he he called himself an autodidact.
	He said, Do you know what that means?
	And the guy didn't know what it means.
	He goes, You should look it up, you know.
	It means he's self-taught.
	But uh he just uh uh he was good in terms of engaging the students and when you look at this, the other part of it is like this guy was the best argument for not going to college that you could have.
	Uh that was there, you know, studying economics, but he doesn't know a thing about it.
	He doesn't even know the major economists of the 21st of the 20th century.
	Yeah.
	KWD68.
	For Kirk to be in his early 30s and realize the enemy and begin talking about it was admirable.
	He may have been a Zionist but saw the issue, he was definitely over the target.
	You're people are allowed to learn they were wrong.
	People are allowed to make mistakes.
	And again, don't just And if he uh if he was starting to wake up to some of this stuff, that can make him a real danger to the establishment.
	With a massive following he had.
	Guard Goldsmith, there's a great example of pre-reporting, as we recall.
	The real BBC reporter claiming Building 7 went down 20 minutes before it did, as it stands behind her on screen.
	That's right.
	And with that, you can see those clips still are around.
	You can still find them.
	They try to scrub them, but they can't.
	People continually re-upload them and post them places.
	That's right.
	And I I can't find a single actual link for these articles that people say exist.
	If you've got them, uh I'd love to see them.
	I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm just saying I can't find them.
	Star Barkley, his father turned him in, hundred thousand dollar richer.
	Rich Dad, poor dad.
	That's that's that's good.
	That's funny.
	Yeah.
	We're all dead.
	Venezuela and Brazil will be traded for Ukraine and Taiwan, according to Romberg.
	All right.
	I'll trade you my Venezuela for your uh for your Ukraine.
	KWD 68.
	What was in Building 7 that it needed to be destroyed?
	I forget the connection to it.
	Uh didn't it have records of some kind?
	They had a bunch of different records that they wanted gone, I believe.
	Yeah.
	Something like that, just like you know, the the um the attack at the Pentagon happened to go right into the office that was ground zero, the office that was investigating the trillions of dollars uh that was lost.
	And you know, that was really driven home to me.
	I I've told the story before, but Karen and I were in Wimberley, Texas uh one time we went down there just on a drive, and we were just kind of walking around in shops.
	It was uh not tourist season or anything, and it was very empty in this one shot, and this lady wanted to talk to me while Karen was looking around at the knickknacks, and she started telling me that she was retired military and blah blah blah, you know, her husband was as well, and that's why they were running the shop.
	And she just starts monologuing and telling me her whole history.
	I was I had been working in that same office that was hit with a plane on 9-11.
	And she said, uh, we had found so many high-ranking military and political officials, congressmen who decide they weren't going to run for re-election.
	They were contacted and they were given a uh, you know, a way to just go away and not be prosecuted.
	And she said, uh, we were finding so much stuff.
	It's so sad that that happened.
	And she goes, and I almost died.
	I got out of there just a couple weeks before that happened.
	And um I wanted to record it, but I wanted to hear what she had to say.
	And I knew if I started recording her, she was going to clam up.
	But um it really drove it home with me that that's uh what was really going on.
	Pentagon.
	So I don't know what was there in building seven, but I'm sure they had their reasons for doing that.
	I saw someone say that it contained a bunch of documents uh about how Rumsfeld had noticed there was money missing, and that's where the documents were stored as building seven.
	Oh, so it's connected to that as well.
	Yeah, it seems like KWD68, the CIA created the term conspiracy theorist, was developed after JFKSS the GFK assassination has been a good armor for them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's it.
	We gotta have that term.
	Well, uh, okay, so we're going to uh we talked about September 11th, so let's talk about uh Charlie Kirk when we come back.
	We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
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	Well, we're seeing amazing reactions, as you said yesterday, Travis.
	Uh you know, the the detestable comments on social media people cheering the fact that uh Charlie Kirk was killed.
	We've had some people now have been fired for that, and not fired because they're trying to cover up some narrative or something, but fired because you know they're cheering this horrific gruesome murder of a young man with a young family.
	And here in Tennessee, at a Tennessee University assistant dean, uh who said that Charlie Kirk spoke his fate into existence.
	Uh this was Laura Sosh Lightsey, assistant dean of students at Middle Tennessee uh State University, uh, posted that on Facebook and said she had zero sympathy.
	Uh now she has zero career, which is fine with me.
	I mean, we don't need these kind of Deranged, hateful people running the universities.
	That's why the universities are the way that they are.
	Uh she then subsequently deleted her entire Facebook account, but it was too late.
	People had uh grabbed it.
	And uh Senator Marcia Blackburn, who uh uh represents Tennessee, um called for her to be fired, so she needs to be fired tomorrow, and she was.
	Um school officials uh fired her from uh her position there.
	And then we have Governor Pritzker, who blames Trump after Kirk assassinated, said it's the president's rhetoric that often foments violence.
	Now, I find it interesting, and it's one of the reasons why I opened the show with this unprovoked attack on a Venezuelan boat that Trump and everybody in his administration bragged about.
	Do you find it interesting that Pritzker would not attack Trump on that, but would attack him on his rhetoric, saying that his rhetoric had led people to react to uh to uh Charlie Kirk that way, as if speech justified that kind of violence.
	That's the mindset of the left.
	They're not going to push back against uh an egregious war crime and violation of the Constitution.
	What they'll do is they'll use this to push back against free speech.
	I also sorry to break in, but I am so incredibly sick and tired of this rhetoric of them saying, well, you know, he said hateful things, and you know, that maybe you know, when you talk like this, it they have spent ten years demonizing anyone that disagrees with them as hateful, racist Nazis.
	And they continually say, you know, you should kill Nazis.
	That's what they say.
	They say you're a Nazi and that Nazis should be killed, and therefore they are co-signing the death of anyone they slap that label onto.
	Yeah.
	They have pushed this rhetoric.
	They pushed it over and over.
	You're a terrorist, so therefore we can kill you without even showing that you committed a crime.
	So that's the labels are very uh very important to them.
	Yes, you're probably gonna get to this a little later, but the uh guy that worked at uh DC comics that was celebrating this and got fired, uh I saw someone post something about I think it's a guy that's pretending to be a girl, uh, but this person's Twitter feed is uh their handle is punching Nazis all day.
	That's uh that's the only thing these they're so heavily propagandized that uh anyone they don't agree with is a Nazi, and punching and violence against Nazis is a good thing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, what Lance was talking about is a guy that was working for DC Comics, and he had just done completed a series um called the Red Hood series.
	The first one had been sold, and he came out uh uh, you know, bragging about the fact and he's a trainee, uh, came out uh bragging about this, and so DC just canned the whole series and said uh comic book dealers out there, uh, if you've got pre-orders for volume number two and three, those are canceled right now.
	So um and and but you know, what we're seeing here, as you point out, it's this idea that if they don't like what you say, they label you as a Nazi.
	And if the right doesn't like what you say, they label you as a terrorist, evidently.
	Uh so it's the censorship is the issue.
	The censorship is hate, which leads to violence on people.
	They want to say, however, that speech is hate and speech is violence.
	I say the opposite.
	I say that the instinct to censor people comes from a position of hate, which can then lead to violence, and it can be state violence against people as well.
	I think they got it exactly backwards.
	But I think it's interesting that Pritzker would um uh talk about uh this because again, it's all about politics, it's not about principles of the rule of law anywhere.
	And as they point out in Breitbart, meanwhile, there have been 1152 people shot in Chicago so far this year.
	Uh 208 of them died.
	That's on top of the 2,444 shot and the 610 murdered just last year, along with similar records each year of the last ten years.
	Charlie Kirk himself even warned of the assassination culture that has sprung up on the left, leading to many regular, average, everyday Democrats to say that political violence and murdering your Political opponent is a legitimate tactic.
	And I think it is inevitable that that kind of uh mindset is going to come out of a mindset that wants to censor any speech that it hates.
	That's what leads to the violence that is there.
	He said in April, he said assassination culture is spreading on the left.
	Forty-eight percent of liberals say that it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk.
	Fifty-five percent said the same thing about Donald Trump.
	And of course, all it takes is one to uh kill you, which is what happened with Charlie Kirk.
	Barack Obama condemns the despicable violence after Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
	That's the headline from Breitbart.
	But the interesting thing is, he says this kind of despicable violence has no place in our democracy.
	But he pretends that he doesn't really know why this happened.
	He said, We don't yet know what motivated the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk.
	Oh, we don't.
	This is kind of like what you see when you got somebody with a knife stabbing a dozen people, yelling Allahu Akbar, and we say we don't know what motivated him.
	What could have led to this?
	That is uh kind of ridiculous.
	Lefties run to social media, mocking Charlie Kirk for opposing gun control, and um putting up things like, if only we had gun control.
	He fought hard for guns, thoughts and prayers and so forth.
	He wanted we wanted gun control to save him, uh to save his life too, some of them said.
	No, you wanted gun control so you could more easily take people like Charlie Kirk, round them up and put them wherever you wanted.
	That's right.
	These people want to act sanctimonious, but the fact that they are acting this way shows what their true feelings are.
	That's right.
	They wanted Charlie Kirk dead, and if the second amendment wasn't there, they would be acting upon those urges.
	They would be screaming at their representatives to round up people like Kirk, round up people like us and you in chat.
	Yeah.
	The Second Amendment is the only thing stopping these people from acting out on their completely hateful violent urges, and their reactions prove it.
	Uh another interesting thing here is um, you know, which people haven't talked about.
	People have talked about, well, um, you know, the Israeli connection, maybe they would do something.
	Well, the Ukrainians, many of them were celebrating online, calling it epic.
	Uh uh as a matter of fact, one user uh wrote that and said uh the moment that he was hit by a bullet, another one said, Cool, super shot.
	First he wrote rooted for Russia, and now he is dead.
	Well, the reality is is that he'd been very critical of Zelensky, and justifiably so.
	He called him an international welfare queen, and he's exactly right.
	An ungrateful petulant child responsible for a million dead, citing Zlinski's refusal to consider peace deal with Russia and his continuation of a conflict financed by Western money.
	And uh so these Ukrainians are saying, well, he effed around and he found out and uh wishing him to rest in pieces.
	But uh he once questioned whether or not the uh Ukrainians would try to kill him because they had a hit list of uh people who had opposed continuing funding of the Ukrainian war by the U.S. government, and one person in particular who was not only pushing for the Ukrainian war, uh, but also was a transgender.
	Uh the ex-head of the Ukrainian territorial defense's English language propaganda vowed to hunt down those he called Kremlin propagandists, they say she, but it was a um uh a guy pretending that he was a woman, adding that a strike against an individual favored by Putin was imminent.
	And so Kirk asked in response to that, he said, so are they going to try to murder Steve Bannon or Tucker Carlson or me?
	And uh that was not that long ago.
	He said, None of us are Putin puppets or Russian propagandists, but the New York Times calls us that.
	Twitter calls us that.
	And that person, who, by the way, was a transgender, is who is funded by the U.S. Treasury, says we're going to come murder you.
	And uh so they were getting American government to create a uh money to create a hit list of their political enemies.
	And then on Blue Sky, uh there's a lot of stuff there which That's their walled garden where the liberals are in their own little enclave and they can feel safe to say whatever they want.
	Yeah, an echo chamber of hate.
	And um again, uh iron ironically, Blue Sky threatened to censor the people who want to censor everybody else over this.
	Thirty-eight million users, according to the platform's cardinal directions, any of the thirty-eight million users who violated the policy to celebrate Kirk's assassination or to promote violence against political activists could have their accounts suspended or removed from Blue Sky.
	And they were not the only social media uh place to do that.
	Had Meta, YouTube, Reddit, Discord all issued statements like that.
	Uh X did not, and so you were able to see quite a bit of that on X. Yeah.
	And um the view actually was uh civil in this that was one of the biggest surprises to me was that the the people on the view who are usually so toxic and uh deranged and uninformed were actually compassionate about this.
	Uh part of me wonders how much of that is just fear that someone has pulled the cork on this that someone has made it so that maybe you know political commentators are now fair game.
	Maybe if we're civil someone on the right isn't going to accept those terms of engagement.
	Yeah.
	And I think thankfully the right isn't going to because the right is generally filled with a more Christian, a more moral people and I I hope they don't.
	But we did have some crazy on the right who went up to the House of the Minist uh of the Minnesota Speaker of the House and uh shot her and her husband.
	Yes.
	Um on MSNBC, Matthew Dowd who had perhaps the most idiotic and vile comments of all uh right off the bat has now been fired even by MSNBC.
	Out of the bat he said he's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this who's constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups hateful thoughts lead to hateful words which lead to hateful actions.
	He said you can't stop this with all sorts of awful thoughts that you have and so forth.
	And so for that he was fired but he was also the one who came out idiotically said well we don't know at this point what happened.
	Could have been some of his supporters firing off guns in celebration we talked about that it's like since when have you ever seen anything maybe he saw Yosemite Sam in the audience or something, you know Yeah.
	Well he says um that uh people misread his comments and he apologized for it but he has now been justfully fired.
	MSNBC President Rebecca Cutler said during your breaking news coverage of the shooting of Carl Charlie Kirk, Matthew Dowd made comments that were inappropriate and sensitive, unacceptable we apologize for statements as has he.
	There is no place for violence uh in America, she said and so uh Astola Vista to him but Senator Elizabeth Warren and Jen Saki, the former uh Biden spokesman uh suggested that it was due to uh Charlie Kirk not turning down his rhetoric which as we pointed out we thought was somewhat moderate.
	I've never I've never seen Charlie Kirk say anything that I thought was even in the slightest bit extreme.
	And uh on the house of the uh speak uh on the House floor uh you had an interesting telling moment because you know after the shooting at the school uh Democrats were routinely mocking people who said uh uh pray for them and uh even the mother of one of the children who did not die uh but her child was shot and she uh mocked the whole idea of prayer.
	Well, you had Mike Johnson held a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk.
	And then when that moment was over, you had Lauren Boebert requested a moment of prayer out loud, not of silence.
	And when she said that, she said, silent prayer gets silent results.
	I think that if you are ashamed to mention the name of Christ uh don't expect that your prayers are going to be heard.
	Uh She said, Is there someone who could lead us in a moment of prayer out loud for Charlie and his family?
	And then the Democrats had a fit.
	And everybody they started shouting on the floor, groaning about that, and you know, saying, shut up.
	I mean, that's that's the state of the um uh of the Democrat Party.
	They have uh made themselves the Antichrist Party.
	Really uh uh makes you wonder who else recoils at the name of Jesus, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Really makes you think.
	Yeah.
	So uh he's like a vampire movie, isn't it?
	Charlie Kirk's five most controversial claims from vaccine conspiracy to public executions.
	And again, uh, as we said, we thought that um you know he was um pretty pretty mild in these things.
	In terms of gun control.
	Before we move on, do you want me to play the video from this article of the call for prayer?
	Yeah, yeah, play that.
	Yeah.
	We the house will be in order.
	We we will join for prayer right after this, okay?
	The chair lays before the house a communication.
	The house will be in order.
	The demonic party is how the suggestion is.
	Might have been at the very beginning, I can go back to this.
	Yeah, that's okay.
	We'll move on.
	Thank you all.
	It was um Kirk was a huge supporter of the second amendment, and he believed that um people being killed is a price that we pay for the second amendment.
	I would disagree with him on that.
	That is not the issue.
	And it's sad that he would couch it that way.
	Because guns have always been more ubiquitous, more omnipresent uh in in my life than now, and yet what has changed?
	We didn't have that kind of violence.
	So we are the ones who have changed, not the guns.
	And uh so he was wrong in saying that it's worth it to have a the cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God given rights.
	Yeah, I mean, look at uh Britain with all the stabbings.
	Uh what rights are they uh you know, uh what advantage are they getting from not having gun rights with uh you know stabbings everywhere?
	It's not a matter of, oh well, there'll be more deaths with guns, but hey, that's worth it.
	It's yeah simply a uh false.
	Well, they're putting this here saying that there was a trade-off somehow.
	There is not a trade-off.
	The problem is, and many of us have said this over and over again, as a matter of fact, RFK Jr. said that.
	Said, you know, is uh when he was in high school, people were bringing guns to school uh because they're doing target shooting and things like that.
	So what has changed?
	Not the gun.
	Uh the second amendment doesn't need to change.
	We need to look at what has changed in our culture, and of course, that is the schools uh that is purging God out of our schools as they want him purged out of the house of the house floor.
	And so that's what's changed, along with the fact that we have SSRI drugs that they prescribe for people, and the grooming of children to tell them they're in the wrong body, getting them confused, depressed, suicidal, then giving them SSRI drugs.
	Uh so we need to focus on what the real problem is.
	Uh he refused to accept transgender people, they say, or that a person could identify as a different gender than the one that they're born with.
	Said he believed that people who were transgender had a mental illness and needed brain treatment.
	Well, he was right about that.
	that.
	That's pretty obvious.
	Once again, it's the standard line.
	What was in the psychological diagnostic manual for decades, and only very recently when it no longer served them and this became the hot button issue, did they change it.
	They will...
	Language doesn't mean anything to liberals or democrats.
	Words don't have any meaning.
	It is simply a weapon to achieve whatever their goal is at the moment, and they will change the definition on the fly.
	And if you point it out that they've changed it, they'll call you an idiot.
	That's postmodernism.
	You know, that there is no truth and words don't mean anything.
	Uh here's the issue, right?
	Yeah, we know that transgenderism is insanity.
	You've got institutions that are pushing insanity and pharmaceuticals on kids.
	The institutions have to change or be abolished.
	It's just that simple.
	We need to declare our independence from the educational institution.
	Uh, because um uh and and again, just like it says in the uh declaration of independence, the schools need to be radically altered or abolished.
	I'm in favor of them being abolished.
	No one government should have no role in education.
	He won't say that.
	No one can teach your children better than you.
	No one will love your children like you do.
	You are the you cannot do a worse job and you can do an infinitely better job than these schools.
	And what we've seen, I've seen so many posts of teachers celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
	Do you think that your conservative child is going to be treated well by these hateful demonic people that are infesting the school system?
	They celebrate your Christian child.
	You want your Christian child uh absorbing those kinds of values, being mentored by people like that.
	They're going to be targeted not just by other children for potential bullying, but by the staff of the school themselves.
	They are going to suffer.
	You can no longer entrust your children to the school system.
	Not that I think you ever should have, but today it is more obvious than ever that it is filled with people that hate you and hate people like you.
	So again, this is coming from the mirror in the UK, and they say he was a conspiracy theorist during the COVID-19 pandemic.
	He regularly shared conspiracy theories on social media, which led him from being banned for a time from Twitter for misinformation.
	He used the catchphrase China virus.
	He said, No, now more than ever we need the wall.
	With China virus spreading across the globe, the U.S. stands a chance if we can control our borders.
	President Trump is making it happen.
	Again, he's he's sharing Trump in the middle of the pandemic.
	This is why I said I have some issues with him.
	And I think that to think that Trump was fixing the border uh was delusional and extreme, I think.
	Uh and then polarizing quotes.
	He said, I'm sorry, if I see a black pilot, I'm gonna be like, boy, I hope he's qualified, which he said during a 2024 podcast.
	Where he was probably talking about DEI.
	That's not anything that hasn't been said over and over again by Walter Williams when he used to guest host for Rush Limbaugh.
	Yeah, he would say, as a black man, he felt that these um that affirmative action, which is what uh DEI is the um successor to.
	He said uh he earned his degree, but people think that he got his degree simply because he was uh uh given uh a lower standard because he was black, and Walter Williams spoke out against that, essentially saying the same thing.
	Uh so again, they're trying to portray him as a racist.
	They work that way, because they want to, that is their standard defense, is to bring the accusation of racism to anybody that they they disagree with.
	It's exactly what uh uh Israel is doing too.
	So uh in February last year, while discussing capital punishment, he said children should watch people being killed using the death penalty, that executions should be public.
	Death penalty should be public, should be quick, should be televised.
	I think at a certain age, it's an initiation, he said, before adding that the crime rate would go down if kids had witnessed an execution.
	Well, again, that's something that I would disagree with him on, but um you know that you know the reason that they're putting that there.
	Uh we're going to take a quick break and uh we're gonna come back in just a moment here.
	Actually, no, wait, we're gonna take a look at the.
	Do we have Jack Lawson on the line?
	Uh no, he hasn't joined yet.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Uh well, then uh why don't we continue instead of taking a break?
	Because we're gonna take a break with the biggest.
	We do have a good comment here, though.
	Radis Bros says one of the positives about the shooting is that someone is really showing how useless the FBI is if it isn't planned by them, LOL.
	That's right.
	Unless they're the ones who set everything up and put all the pieces in place.
	Apparently, they can't find the guy.
	That's another good point because Cash Patel wound up with egg on his face.
	Two or three times.
	Yeah, I know.
	I mean, you could also see that with the unibomber.
	They had no idea who Ted Kacinski was.
	They had no clue.
	They weren't even close.
	They took his brother reading his writing and saying, Oh no, I recognize this.
	It was the phrase cool headed logicians that Ted Kaczynski frequently used around his brother and used in the writing and his brother recognized it.
	Again, a family member who turns them in, yeah, just like with this, uh maybe.
	Uh someone already mentioned Richard Jewell, uh there was a great movie about that and made I think it was directed by uh Clint Eastwood.
	Clinton Eastwood, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Everyone should check that out, uh, get an idea of how these investigations go.
	Yeah.
	They worked really hard.
	There was a organized campaign to keep people from watching it, claiming that Clint Eastwood was disrespectful to women uh because of one of the characters there.
	And uh so yeah, again, I think it was pretty effective, but it was an excellent movie.
	And certainly uh something that's an important point of view.
	Well, it feels like some sort of invisible line has been crossed, as uh uh Constantin Kissen has pointed out, who is a uh commentator on a podcast called Trigonometry, said I hope I'm wrong, but tonight it feels like some sort of invisible line has been crossed that we didn't know was there.
	Last time I felt like this was 911, when it was clear without knowing the how and the what that the world was about to change forever.
	Like the rules of the game had been permanently altered, and there was simply no going back to the innocent, peaceful past.
	I didn't feel like this when an attempt was made on President Trump's life, he said.
	You know, it's because it looked like it was fake to me.
	I don't know how he could recover from a graze to his ear that he claimed that he had so quickly like that.
	But to murder a young father simply for doing debates and mobilizing young people to vote for a party that represents half of America, this is something else, he said.
	And uh I agree, and that may be one of the strong arguments to uh say that it was engineered.
	Um don't know if it was, uh or if it was the you know, certainly this uh even if it was organic and as a result of this person's uh trainy mindset, you know, that with all the stuff that's there.
	That in and of itself, folks, is engineered.
	No question about it.
	Uh why don't we address the root cause of that?
	So um, yeah, um basically every mass shooting is MK Ultra in the sense that they have used these techniques that they refined on the individual and rolled them out en masse through media and through the amount of drugs that they push on people continually.
	That was a hallmark of MK Ultra.
	They would show you programming, they would hit you with all kinds of different techniques to induce fear or other things, and they would pump you full of drugs.
	And that is what happens on a mass scale to the American people daily.
	Yeah.
	Especially the schools.
	Schools are a uh mass uh market of MK Ultra.
	Yeah.
	Applied in a massive way.
	Well, this person said, uh seems like we're entering an era of heightened political violence, and that seems to be the reaction of politicians canceling, as you point out, outdoor rallies and a lot of other things like that.
	It is profoundly disturbing.
	And it may have consequences that we cannot yet know.
	I would just say, wait until Trump goes to war with the drug cartels that the war on drugs has created, just like they created Al Capone's gang.
	Uh, you're gonna start to see assassinations, like people have been seeing for a long time in Mexico.
	And uh imagine what's going to happen with that.
	And I I think that is um one of the things that's going to come out of this uh extra legal uh uh war on drugs as it goes hot instead of a cold war.
	Um he took young people seriously, saw college campuses as the ideological incubators that they are for both good ideas and for toxic ones.
	Well while the well the many MSNBC pundits who said nasty things face any potenti political consequences, one has been fired.
	Uh but uh the mass just keeps slipping every time this kind of thing happens.
	A few months ago, a free Palestiner named Elias Rodriguez murdered two young Israeli embassy staffers on the eve of their engagement, outside an event for young Jewish professionals professionals.
	There was the murder of the health care executive, Brian Thompson, for which Luigi Manjione will be prosecuted by New York, Pennsylvania, and the federal government.
	Prominent Democrats like AOC seem to think that stricter gun control, something Kirk would have vociferously opposed, will stop it all.
	No, the rot is deeper.
	And it's not just left on right.
	There's also that right wing crazy who shot and killed several Minnesota soda state legislators in June, for example.
	But there's also a disturbing strain that is emerging specifically on the left that makes light of political violence and seems to revel in bad things happening to the ideological enemies.
	Like we're all play acting.
	Like the deadly violence isn't real in concrete.
	And that's the thing.
	These kids who do this stuff, they really are detached from reality.
	It is just like a shooter game to them.
	They have spent their...
	Basically, freshly into college.
	They've never once been outside their parents'home.
	They've never once suffered a consequence for their actions.
	They have never experienced the real world, and as such, you know, they're not a part of the real world.
	None of this is actually real to them.
	They don't actually interface with it in any sort of real way.
	Yes, I agree.
	I'll just have one more comment before we go to our guest who's now ready.
	This is from Eric Erickson who said, I'm seeing people on the right, many of them professing Christians, say you just don't hate them enough.
	It seems to me that's what got us to this point, he said.
	And he said, Many of them do hate us.
	Some of my right wing friends on here are not Christians and have for a long time insisted that we need to embrace the methods of the left.
	Some of my Christian friends have agreed, but Christianity conquered the world by being the opposite of worldly hate.
	And again, this is not simply an issue that we want uh like from uh the perspective of Richard Dawkins.
	It's much more involved and important than just Christianity or Christendom or a Christian culture.
	He said, beat the left by seeking the welfare of the community in which you live.
	Get married, have children, pray for your community.
	There you will find your welfare.
	And that's basically the um uh in a sense, a paraphrase of what God told the people who were in captivity in Babylon.
	He said, Uh, I know the plans I have for you, right?
	Plans to prosper, not to harm.
	And he gave them exactly that advice.
	He said, Plant your crops, build your homes, build your families.
	Uh, and that's the way that we need to pursue this, not in this uh tit for tat, eye for an eye, tooth for tooth, let's hate them more than they hate us type of approach.
	And uh at the same time, part of that is to prepare to make sure that we can protect our family and ourself from crazy things and crazy people.
	That's what we're going to be talking about when we come back with Jack Lawson.
	You have a couple comments.
	Uh, one I'd like to read real fast at least.
	Uh don't frag me, bro, says Jack Ruby was interviewed by Dr. Jolly West.
	Yes, he was.
	That's what I was referencing earlier.
	And I think that's what inspired the scene.
	You'll forgive me for referencing Hollywood, but in Batman Begins where the scarecrow shows up to interview the mob boss and drives him crazy with his you know drugs.
	I'm pretty sure that's what they were referencing there.
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	I don't remember the movie as well as I remember uh the JFK shooting.
	I remember the movie better.
	I wasn't there for the JFK.
	Yes.
	Miller 123 said, This feels the same as the JFK shooting in a lot of respects.
	That was another seminal moment, uh, crossing yet another Rubicon that was there.
	And uh so we're gonna take a quick break, folks, and we'll be right back with Jack Lawson and uh his civil defense manual.
	Stay with us.
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	Joining us now is Jack Lawson.
	You can go to Jack Lawson Books.com to find the civil defense manual volume.
	You can see them both here.
	They are both thick volumes.
	They've got a lot of dense information, and he's got passages from other experts as well.
	So you can find a lot of information about how to defend yourself in uncertain times, protect your community, find food, find water, make sure that you are not completely vulnerable in a scenario.
	seems more and more likely every single day.
	Of course, he also had, he's got a sub stack.
	Tell people where they can find these.
	First of all, it's Jack Lawson.
	JackLawsonBooks.com.
	Yes.
	And Jack, what is your sub stack address?
	David, it's JackLawsonBooks, plural on the books, dot sub stack dot com.
	Okay, just like the website.
	Yeah.
	And there's a link on the website to it as well?
	Instead of dot com, it's dot sub stack dot com.
	Okay.
	It's got, we've got huge amounts.
	I've got a hundred some different articles on there, A lot of this is uh uh some of it's out of my book, a lot of it is is very good free information, and uh like I told one guy I don't just do this because I want to try to make a buck here or there.
	I do this because of what we've been seeing.
	We we're seeing a deterioration, the uh deterioration of the fabric of American society.
	Yes, uh insanity going on, and people uh are not gonna have a problem until there's a problem.
	Then they've got a problem.
	And if you're not prepared, uh you know, it's it's uh like uh Colonel Douglas McGregor says, it's gonna be on top of people before they can do anything about it.
	So you need to you need to get out there and get some get some basics done.
	Protect your yourself, your wife, your partner, your family, whatever, friends, um anyway.
	Yes, I agree.
	And uh two weeks ago, you were saying there was gonna be uh more shootings, of course, and of course we had the day that Charlie Kirk uh was shot, there was also another school shooting.
	Uh most people didn't hear about it because it was swamped out with all the news about Charlie Kirk.
	But it is a regular thing.
	Well what was your take on this on your Substack article in general?
	Well, what I uh what I believe is happening in a country is um I always wondered why these mean South African dictators went into the universities, arrested all the professors, and closed the universities down.
	Uh I see why they did it.
	Ever since, and if you look at this, they didn't do it prior to 1920, ever since communism's come about, and especially in the 30s, the agitation and the education through universities and uh higher institutions institutions of higher learning have programmed people.
	I think all of these people are getting so wound up in all of the injustices that they imagine through their educational system mostly that uh it's just corrupting their their brain cells and causing them to want to become violent people.
	Well, it used to be that they would do the radicalization just of the kids that were in college, but now they have taken it, you know, they they've uh oh it's in the school system.
	It's in the school system.
	They they've taken it earlier and earlier and earlier into the school system, and that's what's really concerning about it.
	And they've taken it to a level that you know not even Marks and Lennon imagined with the training stuff, you know, in terms of uh getting these kids unstable.
	Yeah, uh I don't I I'm no uh I don't have a crystal ball.
	I'm no uh clairvoyant.
	Uh but if you connect the dots, you read enough and you think about things and connect the dots, it's right out there.
	Yeah, there are more of these shooters out there right now.
	They just haven't gotten around to it.
	Yeah.
	Uh this is gonna happen repeatedly.
	It amazes me.
	Uh the left is so anti-gun, but it seems like all of the shootings, virtually all of them are coming from them.
	Yeah.
	As much as they'd like to blame it on a white Christian conservative, haven't been able to find one yet.
	So there was one incident that happened, but um up in Minneapolis, I think it was, but um uh that where they attacked uh legislators that were in state legislators.
	But for the most part, you know, there has been a lot of that guy was I don't believe that guy was a conservative.
	I believe he was hooked into some defense agencies as far as security.
	I from what I've read about him, I can't absolutely say that uh he was uh conservative, walls, the Governor appointed him to a position uh three or four years earlier.
	So you don't usually get pro appointed.
	I got appointed to a police board in uh Las Vegas.
	And uh I think you're right about that, yeah.
	No, it it's it's uh there's there's politics come into play.
	Yeah, people want to get into these politics, saying right and left because it's a lot of people.
	Yeah.
	But people are saying that because it was leftists that got shot up that were there.
	But um yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case as well with this guy, because it is about mental derangement, and um that is the the real purpose of uh what they're doing in these schools is to get people disoriented.
	They want you disoriented even about what body you're in.
	And I think that's the key thing that we need to understand as much as they do.
	They understand that they got to mold the children from kindergarten on the earlier the better.
	We need to understand that as well, and we need to take that back.
	We need to take our children back from the state.
	Uh we were talking about is that gonna get done?
	Is that gonna get done under a conservative administration in four years?
	I think so.
	I think it'll get done when we do it ourselves.
	That's the key.
	You know, just like you're talking about with your own self-defense.
	We need children defense manual, which is called homeschooling.
	They take your kids out of these institutions.
	Fortunately, we have that ability in this country.
	Most countries don't.
	And I think that's one of the things like the second amendment that's unique about America, and we need to exercise those rights or we lose them.
	And I think that the the family needs to get their kids out of the school system.
	And if we did that enough, we might be able to get a consensus that we don't want to pay these confiscatory school taxes anymore, and that could be the end of the system.
	This building that is burning down and taking our society with it.
	And uh so that's that's what I would hope.
	You had a a very moving uh statement in your substack about the death of a child uh that that you came across when you were there fighting in Africa.
	Yeah, it's uh I've always felt sorry, uh watch his Gaza thing.
	I not just that, it's everywhere.
	Yeah.
	When there's massive civil unrest or a war, the kids always take the brunt of it.
	They're innocence, and uh I saw all ages of people.
	It was uh it was mind-bending.
	I was numb to it.
	Uh I saw so much of it.
	But you're talking about carrying a six-month-old baby in your arms to the helicopter.
	Yeah.
	Bloodied and uh yeah, they we were moving bodies out of a out of an area, and and most of these people had been killed by the communists.
	They they were sh one tribe, as much as they uh are both both tribes are supported by different elements of uh uh communism back then.
	Uh you get two of them together and they'd fight to the death.
	And they got into a village and they killed two hundred and six people before we could stop them.
	We couldn't stop it.
	They went into a frenzy.
	And uh I just never forget this this little baby that uh I don't know, six months old.
	I I just know one thing, it was uh something that's never left me, but uh people don't see that kind of thing here.
	I I saw it firsthand.
	Does it make you prone to thinking about violence more?
	Of course it does.
	I see these people doing what they're doing in this country.
	They have no idea of the Pandora's box, the can of worms they're opening.
	Once it's open, you can't get it closed.
	It's very difficult.
	That's right.
	It it takes a great amount of effort to restore civilization.
	And I look at us, I'm a student of the Spanish Civil War.
	Uh there are things that are the opposite here.
	But I look at us as being about in 1935.
	We're not far from open conflict.
	Is it gonna be the army against uh leftist or leftist and the army against conservatives?
	I don't think so.
	I think what you're gonna see is increasing violence between groups of people.
	Where it goes, I don't know.
	I hope it doesn't go to what I lived in there, and that was the car bomb.
	Uh you never knew walking down the street whether somebody's gonna set a bomb off in a car and innocence get killed.
	That's right.
	Yeah, it's uh and when you look at the twentieth century, the massive uh, you know, tens of millions of people killed in various conflicts.
	Always a communist, you know, it was Stalin, Mao, uh, the um uh the situation in Zimbabwe, of course, you also have in uh Cambodia and things like that.
	It's always this leftist mindset that is godless, that is totalitarian.
	That's where this all flows from.
	And I interviewed She Van Fleet uh uh a while ago, and she wrote a book called Mao's America, and she said all of this anti-racism and stuff and the tactics that they're using against kids.
	She said that was essentially drawn directly from Mao's struggle sessions where you had to denounce your parents and denounce this and denounce that.
	Uh and uh she said people don't realize that that was the foundation of what was being done by Mao, and they think that this is something different, something that's new.
	Uh, but it is tied back to that and it will lead to the same type of thing.
	Say same thing.
	Yeah.
	Uh side note for the worshippers of Mao Seitung and uh Che Guavara.
	Yeah, both of those guys took pride in their body odor.
	Don't ask me where they got this.
	Uh, one of the guys in my special forces chapter trained the Bolivians in hunting them down, which they did.
	Che Guevara.
	And uh apparently he was so filthy when he was after the revolution, he was working in the cane fields, and he had uh relations with a woman there, and he smelled so bad she threw up.
	You know, I mean uh it was it was it would these people are are are legends in their own mind.
	Yeah, uh they're fabricated legends.
	And the bottom line is uh, you know, they got a lot of blood in their hands, but they're they're bound determined to try it again because we didn't get it right the last time.
	What is that?
	Didn't kill enough people.
	I don't know what goes through their mind.
	You know, my neighbors in Las Vegas were escapees from uh eastern bloc countries, and I had a interesting two hours.
	I went to a birthday party.
	I used to drink back then, and they're big drinkers.
	And I at a lola asked them what was communism like.
	What was it like living in communism?
	And they sat there, they were dumbfounded.
	I asked that question.
	They looked at each other, started chatting in their foreign language, laughing a little bit, and then they unloaded on me.
	And one of the things that that you have to understand is they said communism destroys hope and the spirit of man.
	It's a naturally, it's naturally antagonistic to human nature.
	Yes.
	And antagonistic to God.
	And uh I'll have to remember that story about Che Guevara when I see uh some lefty wearing a Che Guevara shirt.
	I probably won't say anything to them about it because they're probably deranged enough they'd attack me.
	Yeah, we've got a comment here from Lance that says that seems to be a common problem for all communists.
	That's right.
	Yeah, they are anti-God, and I guess maybe that's maybe that's where the uh thing cleanliness is next to godliness, and so godless communists are not clean either.
	Yeah, I think they're anti-soap uh too.
	But uh anyway, uh it's it's uh horrible thing.
	Let me let me tell your listeners a little bit about myself.
	I was in the American Air Force.
	Uh I was I was an electronic specialist.
	I dealt with arming and disarming the M40, or sorry, W 40 uh thermonuclear warhead.
	After that, I got out.
	I ended up in Africa in the Foreign Legion in an anti-terrorist rapid response unit.
	We were taken in by helicopters, but also parachute trained.
	So I saw uh differences in the military that were drastic.
	And then uh by the way, I call Africa the continent of the apocalypse now and the land of blood and tears.
	Because that's all I saw over there was blood and tears.
	Wow.
	A wonderful, wonderful people, the black people over there.
	Unfortunately, uh they're tribal, they're a little more prone to become communists and to take the uh hard walk down the road of democracy.
	It's difficult for them to understand because of the elder system they have.
	It takes a village type of mindset that Hillary loves so much, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, that doesn't quite work the way the way that uh that statement is.
	No.
	Uh then I I was on a police board in a major city.
	Uh one of the biggest police boards.
	So I've got a lot of understanding of what goes on in our society.
	If you want to see the underbelly of the city, go do a ride along with the police department.
	Uh you won't come out of there thinking the same way about your city again.
	Anyway, uh I have to look at life as with the experiences I've had.
	I know how uh this is not normal reality we live in.
	Our normal reality is barbarism and war.
	Yes.
	And that's not me saying that.
	That's C. S. Lewis, the famous uh Christian philosopher.
	Um I do believe we've moved away from God and Jesus and good compassion and forgiveness, and it's it's just showing more and more in the radical approach people are taking, not discussing anything, they don't want to.
	You're a Nazi racist if you don't agree with them.
	Yes.
	And you know, you were just talking about this earlier on your show, but uh it's it's very true.
	They want to silence you by calling you a Nazi.
	Yes and I in turn call them lunatics because that's what they are.
	Yes.
	And of course, you know, when they wanted to move us away from God and where they wanted to shut down the free exercise religion, where they start the schools.
	You know, that's where they started purging it first, and then it metastasized out from that.
	Because everything always starts with the schools.
	Uh, you know, we we understand that the uh children are the future, but we don't act like it.
	Uh they do act like it.
	And so that's really the key.
	And you know, the first time I talked to you, uh, Jack, we we talked about how fragile the um supply lines are in America.
	And that was even before the lockdowns of 2020.
	Uh then we saw that uh demonstrate to us just how fragile supply lines are.
	Uh when we had um uh the imposition of the lockdown rules, you wound up with empty shelves, but then on the farms, they were destroying massive quantities of food because they couldn't get it to market.
	And um so we have a Yeah, they couldn't get it processed mostly because uh the factories, the workforces were shut off.
	That's right.
	So that was a large part of it.
	That's right.
	So, you know, we have a very, very fragile system, and um and you talked about that the just-in-time delivery, and it tends to cascade.
	So we are, as many people have said, uh, we're like nine meals away from anarchy.
	That's why your book is so important.
	Being able to um uh help yourself and also to help your neighbors and to start to build connections with those neighbors and a community of people who can stand with each other.
	That I think are those are the essence, uh see, of the civil defense manual.
	Of course, you've had a lot of expertise and practice in that yourself personally, but you also have a lot of experts in various other parts of um very various other aspects that also have contributed to your book as well.
	Uh David, most people who've got my kind of background uh want to go into teaching people how to combat shoot.
	Uh I I've done this.
	Uh I'm uh I was an instructor at a public range uh for seven years.
	Uh I don't get into the tactics so much.
	I don't get in my prime directive is not tactics, it's not how to shoot a gun.
	My prime directive, and people need to understand this.
	Without this, you're not going to survive.
	And that is to store food and to store water.
	Yes.
	Those are the critical issues, Just like you say, supply chain.
	And uh I go I go into this in depth.
	I have a calculator.
	Uh it's free for people to use.
	Go into my uh uh substack account and you can find the food and water calculator.
	That will tell anybody if they get what they've got stored for canned food or ramen, any of those things, and calculate it out, it'll tell you how many days of food you got.
	Water.
	Water is also become as fragile or more so than the food system.
	And you have a free chapter about water uh at your website as well.
	Yeah, Jack Lawson Books.com.
	You need a root a renewable water source, how to treat it.
	Um anyway, all that stuff's free in there if people want to go in and look at it.
	And I suggest that they do because you need to know that about the water.
	And if you see Jack's uh chapter on water, you'll realize just how wise and thorough these books are on other topics.
	But that is a seminal one.
	That's the one that you can't uh live without for a very short time period of time.
	And so he put that out there for free.
	It really kind of tells you something about his heart.
	And especially last time I was on Travis and I were talking about the food and water thing, and he brought up this very thing, uh three days, four days maybe without any water, and uh three weeks without food.
	And that's that's when you start uh that's when you better be saying your prayers because uh you aren't gonna last too much longer than that.
	And especially in a scenario where you know you don't maybe the power is down, you don't have air conditioning, or all these other things are happening, and you're having to exert yourself physically, the amount of water you need to consume goes up.
	We're not just talking about your typical average day where maybe you know you stay inside, you're in your air conditioned house, and you don't need that much water to stay active, stay stay hydrated.
	This is going to be a scenario where you can't do that.
	Yeah, you're not thinking you're thinking three-dimensionally, like people have to think.
	What you say is so true.
	It's uh you might consume or need uh a fourth as much water as you do when the air conditioner.
	Uh I've got a friend, uh former Navy SEAL officer, great author, Matt Bracken, and he told me, he said, Jack, wait till the air conditioning goes out in cars in Florida.
	You're gonna see a lot of road rage, you know, and and that's true.
	It's it's uh people are so acclimatized to an environment that's comfortable that when it starts going the other way.
	But what you say, Travis is very true.
	That will put a factor to this to the problem that multiplies it exponentially.
	Yes.
	I grew up in Florida, so I know what it's like to travel in a car without air conditioning in the summer.
	Went to schools without air conditioning, and of course the cars had uh mellow all through the interior as well.
	They got really hot, but uh no, I've been spoiled.
	It's just we get soft, you know.
	And uh the guy guys from Florida used to tell me about the convertible, they drive around in drinking beer and having a hurricane party driving up on the road with with the top down, and it's so funny to listen to them.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Heat was the issue.
	I've got I've got the A to Z in this book.
	Just about anything that people have to look at.
	Uh literally being in an off-grid situation without power, without heat.
	There it's the simple things in here.
	The Russians will teach you this.
	Dig down into the ground.
	The root cellar is a thing of the past, generally people.
	But when you get down three, four feet in the ground, and you can be twenty below zero, as long as you cover the top of it, you got a fifty-five degree temperature coming out of the earth.
	So it's pretty much consistent.
	You're right.
	And if you keep that temperature uh you keep that heat from going out, uh that's one way.
	I've got all the stuff in the book.
	But the bottom line is this.
	Food and water.
	That's what's going to cause problem.
	There's a saying that revolution starts on hungry stomachs.
	Uh well, that may be true, but chaos starts from thirsty people.
	Yeah.
	That's my thing.
	That's really key.
	Yes.
	Um, well, you know, we're we're we've um we're looking at a very dangerous time in history.
	Uh this is a uh cycle.
	I I believe that there is a cycle of about eighty years where institutions are taking down major economic changes what was laid out by Strauss and now Yeah, fourth turning, exactly.
	And uh it does seem to be lining up that way, and uh we are getting very close to the end of the fourth turning as they expected it and predicted it.
	They said about 2029.
	So we're getting there, and it seems like all of the uh people making their plans for the new dystopian technocracy also agreed with that time frame because they all look to 2030 as the year they want to have this stuff out there.
	So there's gonna be an acceleration of change in these next few years.
	And uh certainly you see it.
	You mentioned uh Colonel uh Douglas McGregor, and I I guess uh he was talking about the various wars that they're trying to drag us into.
	We've had this they're they're continuing to try to escalate things with Ukraine, and as you look at France and the collapses that are happening there, they're having fires all over the place in terms of protest, and he's on, I think the fifth uh president that they've had there or prime minister, I forget which one, I guess uh Macron has one title and the other guy's got another one, but they just had the government fall yet again.
	And so I think it's one of the reasons why you've got France and other places pushing so hard for war, uh, as Gerald Sinti always says, when everything fails, they try to take you to war.
	100% right.
	It's always uh that's been the end of economic uh uh chaos is start a war and kind of cover the books up, you know.
	I've got a friend, uh an American friend that lives in France, and I get the lowdown on what goes on.
	He farms over there.
	Quite an interesting character.
	He's been just visited me over here, but uh interesting to hear their opinion of issues American and whatnot.
	But uh anyway, Rick Rick is uh fills me in from an American standpoint and what's going on.
	I I'll say this, you know, you talk about uh wars going on, it's reminds me of the black and white movie the bombers flying in nineteen eighty-four.
	It it reminds me that they're setting things up, Eurasia.
	It's almost like Orwell wrote a book and giving you the blueprint of what they're gonna do.
	That's right.
	It's it's quite amazing.
	I believe also, don't want to sound like a Bible thumper.
	I want to push something first.
	Uh I've got a little book that I think people you can get it for nothing.
	And it's called uh um it's called Plus Nothing.
	P L U S Nothing.
	It's an introduction to Jesus Christ.
	And I go to I had a friend look at my car window and he sees uh he sees the Bible there and he says, Awesome.
	Well what what's going on?
	Ah, I said that's for my Bible study group.
	I said I actually go to two of them.
	He said, What?
	Two Bible groups?
	Jack, what's happening?
	And I told him, maybe you ought to start looking into uh you know he talks he's very fatalistic sounding, but uh the bottom line is this plus nothing book.
	I carried around.
	Mayo's got his little red book.
	This is a little brown book.
	I've called my little brown book, you know.
	But uh I do think we're coming to a fourth turning, end of times.
	There's just too many issues.
	Is that Jack Lawson getting ageous?
	Is that Jack Lawson getting afraid of No, I'm not.
	I I want I I would be missing my family when I go on, but I'm kind of curious about what's down the road.
	And uh you know, it's it's uh it's something religion as far as Christianity goes.
	Uh I've had uh my son who was Muslim and uh he describes that uh he's no longer, but he describes that religion, and I have uh uh a Jewish friend and my mo my wife's Jewish.
	Uh not she baptized Christian, but uh describe what they think of their religion.
	And the one thing I believe that's missing is the compassion and forgiveness.
	Yes.
	Uh they you know, uh outside Of having those two and uh believing in those two things, I think you end up having a manual, not a guidebook.
	And that's what people want.
	You know, people want uh uh a list of things to do that can earn their salvation, but when they fall short, I mean, even if you make a dumbed down list, because we all know this, we all make our to-do list, and then we all fail even with the to-do list on a regular basis.
	Uh you you always fail to fulfill it perfectly.
	And so what do they do when they fail?
	Uh, you know, for us, for Christians, we know that it is Christ plus nothing, I think is what probably where that book is going.
	It's what Christ has done for us, plus nothing that we do is really going to merit this.
	And so it is that forgiveness that is there, that ability to be able to know that you have that relationship, and then to know that uh with that relationship, you can fail and start again, fail and start again an infinite number of times.
	But there has to be that basis there as to what do you do with your failures.
	And that's uh Jesus Christ, isn't it?
	Yes.
	This plus nothing dot com.
	Great resource.
	The first page.
	The words were so profound.
	I've read a lot of stuff.
	I've read books on Hindu, I've I've got uh a book on Judaism, I've got the Torah, uh and part of the Talmud I don't buy into too much.
	I've got uh a Quran I'm trying to read.
	It's an interpretation, uh English, very difficult to read, but I I've probably read half of it, and I look through the stuff, and then I look through the Bible, which I'm no scholar, but I uh and I read things, but the first page of this plus nothing.com book, I memorized it.
	The words were so profound and they mean so much to me that uh I actually memorized it, and that's hard for me to do.
	Well, what's the summary of what it says in the first page there?
	You got it memorized.
	Yes.
	Say again.
	Uh well summarize it then, uh, since you've got it communicated.
	Well, it's basically stating the beginning of the world.
	It says uh in the beginning before Earth was made, the word was there.
	Yes, yes.
	The word was God.
	Yes.
	Then it says he was there with God in the beginning.
	Everything was made through him, and nothing was made without him.
	Beginning of John Light.
	Yes.
	Yeah, pardon?
	The beginning of John, yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, beginning of time, basically.
	In him there was life, and that life was a light for people of the world.
	The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness is not defeated it.
	That to me uh is basically you can fit it any religion you want, but if you believe in God and you believe in our case in Jesus, uh that that means a lot to me.
	I think people have moved away from this.
	Uh I try to bring this up to some of my kids, and uh when you mention Jesus, it's like you might as well uh have bec have uh done something evil in your lifetime they find out about.
	It's it's like it turns people off, but I don't think people should look at that.
	Yeah, and why is that?
	What do you think?
	I mean, I had uh uh friend who grew up in uh uh uh Japan, they said they they don't swear using Buddha's name.
	Uh they swear using Jesus' name, and they're not Christians, they don't know anything about Jesus.
	Uh isn't that a topic?
	I I think David, I I think people uh I think people watch so much TV and on this entertainment industry, I think for the last 50 or 60 years is demonized religion.
	I've noticed uh I'll see something about some uh you know, for all I know, some priest that's a killer or goofy things that may have happened, but there's such a small minutiae of what really happens.
	Uh I see, you know, you see the who was a Tammy Ray uh uh the the movie about uh the evangelist that was uh Oh yeah, the uh uh can't remember his name.
	Tammy Faye or whatever, Baker, Baker, that was his name.
	Yeah, Jim Baker.
	Yeah, the prototypical TV evangelist.
	Yeah, you see his wife, and and I think people look at all religious movements as that.
	I've always had a saying, religion's the greatest thing to mankind until they brought people into it, you know.
	And it it it's it is those TV evangelists really poisoned the well for a lot of people.
	I absolutely did.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But people need to do one thing.
	If they do anything and walk away from listening to this, start storing some food and water.
	If people don't think tough times are coming, believe me, they'll be just like Colonel McGregor says, they'll be on you before you know it.
	Yes.
	But I think that's a a critical issue.
	I try to get this across to people.
	I've convinced some to start.
	The funny thing is, once they start thinking about it, they start accelerating in their effort to uh store food and water.
	Yes.
	When he was saying that, what was he talking about?
	Was he talking about just uh a natural societal breakdown or was uh Colonel McGregor talking about that in the context uh no he's talking he's talking about what's he's talking about uh an ex an exacerbation uh an increase in the amount of conflict between polarized forces in this country.
	That's and the other thing is uh the threat of nuclear war.
	Yes.
	I've also if people want to go on there, I've got I went to nuclear warfare uh training.
	Um I am no expert.
	I've no more than the average bear knows about it.
	Uh I'm not gonna tell you how to arm or disarm a nuclear bomb, but uh the bottom line is uh uh I never set one off, so I guess it's fairly good at what I did, and I did I did this for I did this for 14 months.
	I actually got it radiated, I believe.
	I used to sit right on the bomb case while I was doing this.
	Slim picking style, right?
	Yeah, almost.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I didn't have a cowboy hat, but uh anyway, it it uh and it didn't you know wasn't on an aircraft, it was in a silo.
	But uh the the I have in there the basics of how you can survive.
	It's very if unless you're in a blast area, uh nuclear warfare is very survivable.
	Uh I've told people this and they laugh because I say the new nuclear weapons, I worked in the old dirty bombs.
	Uh they were the first ones they come out with thermonuclear in 1959.
	Uh, but the new bombs are environmentally friendly.
	That's what I call them.
	They're green bombs.
	They're actually designed, the material after the explosion are designed to decay at an accelerated rate.
	Well, and then you have the uh kinetic weapons like the hypersonic missiles that uh because of the um kinetic energy there, they don't need to have as big an explosive warhead there.
	The damage that they can do and how indefensible um our Western systems are against that, both Russia and China have the hypersonic weapons.
	Um it is I think just hatred and contempt of their people for the leaders in NATO be doing what they're doing.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	It's unbelievable how they've subjugated France, Germany, especially, France, England.
	I mean, there's the prime minister of England standing up and people complaining about massive immigration knife, groomings, raping of women, and he says it doesn't matter what you think.
	Yeah.
	Well open contempt.
	We'll see where we'll see where they go, but I don't I think it's far from done there, and a lot of English people.
	They are bulldogs.
	That's used to be their symbol.
	Uh the bulldog, they are bulldogs, and some of the toughest people uh I've ever run into.
	I mean, they they just don't quit.
	But their leaders have absolute contempt for them.
	And I think, you know, when we look at the the issue of World War III, I think that the leaders of France, Germany, and the UK would like nothing better than to have a massive attack to uh have massive casualties against their own people because their own people are their enemies.
	Yeah, I don't think my my belief is I don't think you'll see tactical nuclear weapons.
	That is another Pandora's box once it's opened.
	I've got a saying there is no such thing as a tactical nuclear weapon.
	Uh low yield weapons like that you can use a thermobaric bomb.
	I'm one of the few people alive that witnessed the explosion of a thermal uh of a thermobaric bomb, which is a fuel air bomb, it's close cousin to a nuclear bomb uh from the effects.
	And uh I saw that firsthand.
	That's probably something they'll use rather than but it puts a mushroom cloud out, and I'll tell you what, I was eight hundred, maybe six hundred yards from it, and uh I'll never ever forget it.
	So you know, we're we're in we've got a lot of dangerous things going on.
	But the bottom line, if you want to know how to survive, nuclear fall out, whatever there will be.
	I've got a whole chapter on it in in the book.
	It's on it's on my website.
	I put that out there because I peep want people to know.
	And it's part of an article written by physicians uh for self-defense and uh uh Shane O'Connor out of KI for you.
	And it'll tell you what to do to prepare.
	Bottom line is a couple days, three days, uh in the center of your house, keeping the air circulation from happening, and uh you can walk out the door.
	And it'll be low enough Renkins, which is the measurement of radiation that you can survive it.
	This is not like Chernobyl.
	Chernobyl was a leak of radioactive material continuing to to emit and put gama rays up.
	This is an explosion.
	An explosion, things burn up or decay.
	And there's a big difference between these.
	But bottom line is that's there.
	There's a lot of things and the greater the greater threat, which is what you address in your book, is the uh the complete destruction of infrastructure, right?
	There's no power, there's no food coming in, and you've got roving gangs of people.
	That's the bigger threat that is more likely to happen.
	And actually, you know, if we have uh I was talking about this earlier, uh Heritage Foundation was war gaming.
	So what if we have a conflict with China over Taiwan, what might China do?
	They point out they might do a lot of things that could not even be directly traced to them.
	There'd be a tax on our infrastructure, on our water supply, our electricity, many other things like that.
	And and just look at how chaotic that would be in this country.
	I've got another article uh, I'm looking at your the table of contents in the civil defense manual volume one.
	And uh I see chapter six, you know, the reality of a catastrophic event, and chapter seven, the mental state needed to cope with a catastrophic event.
	And I think that's something that I'd like to hear more about a very, very sheltered soft life.
	You know, we see these things from a distance online, and I think that can fool some of us into thinking, well, we've witnessed this, we could handle it.
	But the reality is always going to be so incredibly different, and it's going to be something unlike anything we've ever experienced.
	I'm just wondering if you could tell people a little bit of what you think they would need in terms of mentality and mental to deal with what would happen.
	Number one, they've got to get their nose out of their iPhone.
	Um I'm not a regress uh I'm not uh what what do they call it in uh communism?
	Not a reactionary reactionary but but the b bottom line is I got rid of my iPhone and uh got a flip phone.
	Why it was too uh it interrupted my focus on everything too much.
	Yes.
	Uh get your fo get your nose out of your phone and start looking people in the eye when you're talking to 'em.
	Uh the mentality to survive is a four-sided box.
	It's it's got your survival mentality, it's got your training, it's got your uh equipment that you have, and uh uh the bottom line is if any of those two sides fall in, you you don't have a survival mentality.
	You have got to want to survive for yourself, but as much as for yourself, more so for your family and friends.
	And uh people read all kinds.
	I've I've been in situations I probably shouldn't be walking around the planet anymore.
	Uh By God's good grace, and that's all I can figure by all the things I went through.
	I managed uh to get out of situations.
	But it was also dogged determination.
	Uh I don't know, maybe maybe I got toilet trained too early.
	I don't know I what caused this, but it either that or uh I I did too much butt hard work on a farm, but uh I just didn't let go until uh I got out of something, and there were times where I almost gave up.
	But the survival mentality, you got you've got to want to survive.
	If you read the very first story in the book, you'll get into a part that says uh about a society uh less than thirty-five years ago that absolutely went totally to hell and people ended up uh living like animals.
	And you'll tell you in there the guy that wrote the story, let me print it.
	Uh a guy by the name of Selko, S E L C O. He's uh uh uh uh one of the most well known people in survival uh in preparedness.
	He said that a lot of people just died uh initially in the first couple months.
	They lost the will to live because their society was uh it had disintegrated, no water, they didn't want to put up with this, they'd rather die.
	There will be a lot of people that'll that'll die that way.
	I've had uh theories put to me that uh people with guns are gonna run it go around take food.
	Uh and they're gonna be killed off.
	No, I don't think so.
	I think the majority of them gangs, and they'll be not just criminal gangs, they'll be gangs of people that gather together for strength uh to survive.
	This is why I push a neighborhood protection plan, getting to know your neighbors and working together with your neighbors.
	But if you don't have the survival mentality, you you you don't buy the book.
	If you can't get that, you're not gonna survive.
	That's the long term.
	The other thing is, along with the survival mentality again, is the preparedness, the food and water.
	Big big thing.
	Firearms come with it because it's the most efficient way to defend yourself.
	So that answer your question.
	Yeah, we go back and we look at it, I always think about the term outlawing, of course.
	And that was uh somebody who had done something that was outside of the law of the community, so they were ejected, and that was a big deal because now you are outside of the protection of that community.
	And I think that that's what we're looking at, you know, going back to that.
	It's a community of of self-protection that is there.
	And um, you know, we we don't really think government has not really been about protecting us.
	We're talking about early in the show, it's about protecting their agenda and themselves, and so we don't really think about that.
	But if you create a community, and you've got some great tips and pointers on how to do that, the do's and the don'ts of doing that and considerations from somebody who's done it.
	And um if you don't have a community there that uh you've put together, you're not gonna be able to survive on your own.
	Very important.
	Uh I I'd like to end with this.
	Uh this is doesn't come from me, comes from a trauma management person, very knowledgeable.
	I've read quite a bit of the the information they've put out.
	This is why people become victims.
	Now, if any of your uh any your audience out there feels any one of these fits them, then they've got to start changing course.
	And uh number one, it won't happen.
	Uh number two, it's going to happen, but not to me.
	Number three, it's going to happen to me, but it won't be that bad.
	And then number four, it happened to me, but there was nothing I could have done about it anyway.
	That's probably the last thought going through people's minds when the lights go out.
	So anyway.
	Oh, that's a great summary, it really is.
	Yeah, as a matter of fact, uh, you know, along those same lines, when I talk about how they're gonna take away all private cars from everybody.
	I remember going to an automotive show in uh Austin and reporting on it.
	And I talked to people that were there with the classic cars and you know, these were all gearheads modifying their cars and uh and how much they loved it and everything.
	And I talked to them and almost to a man, they all said, Yeah, they're gonna outlaw cars, uh, but it's not gonna happen in my lifetime.
	And it was even uh the young kids were saying that kind of thing.
	It's a kind of a denial that we tell ourselves.
	So we have to prepare for that.
	You know, these people were uniquely prepared to be able to keep their cars going, but still, you know, when we look at this, uh, that is the key thing.
	Yeah, I I don't live this doom and gloom thing.
	Uh I mean, somebody told me, you know, you're not enjoying your retirement.
	I said, no, I'm living like I normally live.
	I write books though about this.
	And uh so what am I supposed to do?
	Dye my hair black, buy a 1960s muscle car, uh convertible, drive around and um uh you know to the Beach Boys uh songs and uh you got the stereotype.
	As a matter of fact, that's happening here in uh Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge this weekend.
	I see that exact guy you're describing all over the place.
	Tens of thousands of them.
	No, that's that's not me.
	I I love my grandkids and the kids.
	Very lucky God's given me some grace when it comes to them.
	Uh I've got great kids and great jobs.
	Yes, thank you so much.
	It is such an excellent uh uh resource, and I can't uh recommend it highly enough.
	Uh Jacklawson Books.com, Civil Defense Manual.
	Yes, go to JacklausonBooks.com, look at the civil demands manual, and check out what he's put up there for free already.
	Thank you so much, Jack.
	Thank you, Jack.
	Have a good day.
	Thank you.
	And talk to you again.
	Have a good weekend, all of you.
	Hopefully, we'll see you on Monday.
	Have a good weekend.
	Take care.
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