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Jan. 9, 2025 - The David Knight Show

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The David Knight Show -1/9/2025

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	We're going to begin by the L.A. fires.
	There is so much to see here.
	At the juncture between government incompetence, over-regulation, corporate greed, you name it.
	It is all at play there.
	And we're going to look at the disaster and what do the people do moving forward there.
	We're also going to take a look, I think, at some interesting things have happened here.
	This has not really been picked up by the media.
	We've got an Arizona tattoo shop.
	People are outraged.
	That he would tattoo a nine-year-old girl.
	Yeah, we'll talk about that.
	We need to extend this out and get people to think about what is going on with that.
	And we've got more details about the occult practices being funded by the federal government through North Carolina as we look at the mania to support depopulation.
	It is across the board.
	We'll be right back.
	Stay with us.
	Stay with us.
	Thank you, Agent State Farm.
	Like a good neighbor.
	State Farm is there.
	Cut.
	Hey, Arnold, I'm hearing neighbor.
	It's neighbor.
	That's what I said.
	Neighbor.
	Agent Brent Whitlock talks about family insurance.
	You have an obligation to that individual.
	When he buys an insurance policy from you to back up what you tell him, you're selling him a service.
	It's an intangible.
	the only way you can prove that you're you're worth what you say you are or your company is as good as you say it is is to be there when he needs you and provide the service that he deserves yeah you know that uh arnold schwarzenegger commercial Very interesting, isn't it?
	You know, fire in Hollywood, Hollywood stars, all the rest of the stuff.
	And that was last year's Super Bowl commercial.
	Now, State Farm is saying that they had to pull out.
	They got a lot of people who, and I understand what is happening.
	Perhaps they see with more clarity because they're analyzing the risks as they see that, you know, there's not any water for fires.
	They got people who don't care.
	About working on improving firefighting.
	As a matter of fact, as one listener pointed out, he said, we can spend billions on planes, but we can't do anything to have some new technology or better technology to fight these fires.
	He said, China's got firefighting tanks.
	Why don't we do that?
	Oh, no, it's all got to go to Ukraine.
	As a matter of fact, they were sending firefighting equipment from L.A. to Ukraine.
	So, you think that maybe State Farm knew that?
	Did the people in California know it?
	Even if they knew it, they can't really do anything about it, but State Farm can get out of there.
	I'm guessing that that's perhaps what was going on there.
	A lot of people are saying, well, this is just setting them up for a smart city type of thing.
	And clearly, that is what I think is happening on the government side.
	The government doesn't want people living there.
	They've made it very clear.
	There are indications that there's lithium deposits there, whatever, another one of these types of things.
	But the government, you can find that pretty much natural resources as an excuse to get people out.
	But it's really about the smart city approach as well.
	That is also there.
	By 2028, L.A. wants the place to be a smart city.
	They don't want people living in neighborhoods.
	Not even the wealthy.
	Let's burn them out.
	But, of course, they will be living in whatever they wish.
	These Hollywood stars and so many of them went through neighborhoods like that, but it went through other neighborhoods where the people don't have multi-million dollar homes and don't have several of them.
	You know, Hollywood stars are now staying in Beverly Hills hotels, and then they will move to their other multi-million dollar homes somewhere else.
	They're not going to be affected by that.
	They're not going to be affected by the smart city stuff.
	There's so much to see here, quite frankly.
	Don't obscure this by just getting lost on the conspiracy theory aspect of it.
	Yes, there is an aspect of that there with the smart cities.
	Absolutely.
	They don't want people to have single-family homes.
	And one of the people even said that there at the University of California.
	Well, maybe nobody should be living in these areas.
	That's always a response to a natural disaster.
	And so...
	State Farm pulled out.
	You had a lot of people who hundreds of Pacific Palisades, homeowners, policies were taken away.
	And like I said, a lot of them are not multi-millionaire Hollywood stars.
	They find themselves grappling with an unbearable reality.
	Their homes are burning and their insurance policies, once their safety net, were canceled just months ago by State Farm.
	It is a devastating thing, regardless of your economic situation, to lose your home.
	We had Karen's brother who went to Travis's wedding in Texas.
	They live in Virginia.
	And they got a call.
	They thought it was a prank.
	That their home had burned down while they were at Travis's wedding.
	Hit by lightning.
	And that was a couple years ago now.
	How long ago was that?
	I don't know.
	Maybe coming up to almost three years, they just now got back into a replacement home.
	Now, their insurance policy was there like a good neighbor.
	I don't know who their insurer was.
	But everything was rebuilt and got all new stuff, and they paid for them to live somewhere.
	I mean, it's an incredible bill.
	And when I look at how much money was involved there for them to rebuild and replace the house, For them to replace their clothing and everything.
	You lose everything, and that's the key thing.
	You're losing pictures that are irreplaceable of your family and other things like that.
	So many irreplaceable memories.
	But the financial cost was astronomical.
	And, of course, they don't want to do that for tens of thousands of homes.
	As a matter of fact, State Farm canceled over 72,000 homeowner policies statewide.
	They must be popping champagne corks now at the money that they saved.
	So, it is a sad story.
	As one person said, my parents are 90 years old.
	See, it's not all movie stars.
	Yeah, I took out James Woods' home, and he talked about that.
	He said one of the major insurance companies canceled all the policies in our neighborhood about four months ago.
	four months ago so they they've got enough money that they can advertise in a super bowl commercial and hire arnold schwarzenegger to do that but they just can't keep up these insurance policies there's corporate greed involved in that for sure my parents are 90 years old they lived in this house for 75 years and they've had the same insurance policy the entire time then state farm decided to cancel it they're now left with nothing thank you california insurance companies
	Tax-paying residents who love this state and they wonder why people are leaving California in droves.
	Well, no blame here for the government.
	And, of course, the government are the ones that were really increasing the risks.
	Some of these people say, well, you know, climate change.
	No, no, no.
	Look, if you're in Florida, I grew up in Florida.
	If you're in Florida, hurricanes are part of the climate.
	Always have been.
	If you're in the Midwest, it's tornadoes, always part of the climate.
	If you're in California, fires are always a part of the climate.
	It gets very dry there.
	It never rains in California, but when it does, it pours, right?
	As the song goes.
	Countless reports of mass fire coverage cancellations by insurance companies just weeks before the LA fires.
	One woman blasted the California government.
	For their mismanagement, explained that fire coverage on her childhood home was canceled after decades.
	Now, again, when you look at it, if you're going to have this cozy relationship, a public-private partnership to make money for the corporations, and they can kick it back to the politicians, if they're going to require you to buy car insurance, for example, you don't have the option for that.
	You're going to be forced to buy it.
	And, you know, the government comes in then and says, well, we're going to set the rates for that.
	And you hope they do that honestly.
	Don't believe that.
	But nevertheless, you know, with great largesse comes great responsibility.
	And so wouldn't you think that since a lot of these insurance companies will tie your car insurance and your home insurance together, wouldn't you think that maybe the government would do that as well?
	You want to make all this money from the automobile insurance?
	Well, you're going to have to do something on the home insurance side.
	And perhaps if they force them to do something about it, maybe the insurance companies would raise a big outcry as to the incompetence of what is being done by the government to fight these fires.
	And it is many different aspects of that.
	So, again, you look at this and it's like, well, where did the people go?
	It got canceled right before this for many people, just a couple of months earlier.
	Did they know about it?
	Because, you know, you've got a situation like this where if somebody's lived there for a very long time, like her parents who lived there for 75 years, they've got their mortgage paid off, I'm sure.
	A mortgage company would do something about it, but a lot of these homeowners wouldn't.
	And so beginning in March, right after that Super Bowl commercial, They started canceling insurance policies left and right.
	About 1,600 insured homes in the Pacific Palisades lost coverage due to that decision.
	But, you know, 72,000, I think it was, across the state.
	Combined, these policies represent just over 2% of State Farm's general policy count in California.
	So it was focused on L.A. And there's a tremendous amount of incompetence in L.A. that is even worse than the general incompetence in California's government.
	We will continue to work constructively, said State Farm, with the California Department of Insurance and the governor's office.
	They're all tied together.
	And it isn't like you've got some free market corporation out here that's doing its own thing and just trying to make money out here and competing with other people.
	No, they're in bed with the government.
	It's just like everything else.
	This whole idea of a free market, when you start talking about big business, is not a free market at all.
	It's crony capitalism, it's corruption, it's public-private partnerships, it's all that kind of stuff together.
	And so, you know, they're both to blame in this.
	Policymakers want to actively pursue these reforms in order to establish an environment in which insurance rates are better aligned with risk.
	So from their perspective, you know, California has made it impossible to do business there.
	Because California was not allowing the policies to reflect what they thought were the higher risks.
	And the higher risks are because of what the government is doing.
	The government wants to ignore any infrastructure that is necessary to fight fires.
	And when the risk goes up and they want to do nothing in order to control areas that are going to catch fire and burn, we've seen this over and over again.
	It doesn't have to be a rural area, but I've talked about this many, many times.
	You've heard this in this program briefly.
	My uncle, 50 years ago, probably more than that now, was head of the Forestry Department at the University of Missouri in Columbia.
	And he talked to me about what he saw happening at that point in time.
	He said, nobody's interested in stewardship anymore.
	They've got this environmentalism.
	It's like a religion to them.
	Don't touch the forest.
	Leave everything alone.
	And he said, if you don't clear out the deadwood, the forests are going to burn down.
	And this is happening in rural areas.
	We saw this happening with mismanagement in Hawaii.
	It happened with mismanagement here in the Smoky Mountains.
	National Forestry, you know, the Forestry Department not doing that.
	And so it spills over into other areas.
	When we went up to Oregon, we talked to, Travis and I filmed a report with a guy who was a logger, worked all of his life in logging.
	And his retirement plan was that he'd taken his money and he'd bought property.
	He was going to gradually log that property after he retired.
	But because the government didn't take care of the public lands, they had a wildfire that got out of control and burned everything of his.
	And basically, that was his retirement.
	And he was in a very bad situation.
	And it was terrific what had happened with that.
	The corporate retreat, echoed by other private insurers, not just State Farm, has forced countless homeowners in the state-run Fair Plan.
	A last resort insurance program that has seen its enrollment more than double since 2020. And so there is a backup state-run plan.
	My question is, with the cancellations happening so shortly before this, did these people know that they get over into that plan?
	I don't know.
	Time will tell.
	Most insurers who have limited their offer in the state mentioned risking wildfire risk as well as the state's regulations as the main reasons behind their decision.
	Unable to increase their premiums to a level that will match the growing risk, the growing risk from the government incompetence and disinterest, right?
	Companies have decided instead to cut coverage to cut and run.
	As a matter of fact, this is another State Farm commercial that didn't have that.
	like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.
	That was a Barry Manilow song.
	But this one, I guess, really applies.
	They tell you to get to a better state.
	Get to a better state.
	State Farm.
	That's their business plan.
	We're going to get to a better state than California to do business in.
	So far last night, as this is going through, sadly five people have died.
	So far last night in L.A. County firestorms.
	And there have been more than 1,100 homes that have been destroyed.
	This is some video from neighbors of James Woods.
	And it is absolutely amazing.
	A complete inferno that's there on both sides of the road.
	It's like, you know, I wonder if you're going to get trapped in there.
	But it is a horrific scene.
	And it's just everywhere.
	100 mile an hour winds.
	And of course, we've seen that happen in many different cases, especially around here, even when there's a forest fire.
	A lot of times the forest fires happen because there's a high wind.
	And then the massive fires, because there's so much dead wood fuel on the ground, the massive fires will accelerate the wind.
	So they're getting like 100 mile an hour winds.
	But the biggest problem...
	Is that they didn't have any water to fight the fire with.
	Because, you know, the local government is concerned that you've got people in charge that are contemplating their navel.
	You know, they can't be bothered to look at nuclear waste or to look at fighting fires because they're all about their sex games, their gender.
	What gender am I going to be today?
	You know, that type of stuff.
	And let's hire more people like me who don't care about what they're doing.
	They're just so obsessed with sex.
	That's all they can think about, is their sexual cosplay.
	Fire hydrants ran dry in Southern California just when needed the most.
	A swirl of criticism on social media against the L.A. mayor, Karen Bass, and Governor Gavin Nusance, and their water management policies.
	You've got thousands of homes destroyed, families destroyed, businesses destroyed.
	Yeah, I mean, this is mismanagement, it's environmentalism, it's...
	Activism and neglect.
	Certainly the insurance companies see that and get out of Dodge.
	I think you can figure out a way to get more water in the hydrants.
	I don't think there's any room for excuses, said Rick Caruso, a real estate developer and a former commissioner with the LA Department of Water and Power, who was defeated by this woman of color who was supported by Obama.
	And she can't be bothered because she's on a boondoggle junket in Ghana right now.
	And guess who is leading the junket?
	Somebody from the Federal Office of Management and Budget.
	Now, how's that for irony?
	You know, we're going to do a boondoggle junket here, and the OMB under the Biden cartel is going to be the one running that junket.
	And that's where this...
	This woman is the one who won the mayor's race.
	Trump seized on the moment.
	In a podcast on Truth Social Media Network, Wednesday, he renewed criticism of the state's approach to balancing the distribution of water to farms and cities with the need to protect endangered species, including the Delta smelt.
	I don't know whether.
	I mean, we've heard about the snail darter.
	I just saw a headline of an article.
	I did decide not to go into it.
	Snail darter that's held up doesn't exist.
	And so you've got the radical environmentalists who don't want to have any infrastructure.
	And that's the conspiracy, you see.
	That's the conspiracy that's been there for a very long time.
	That is to shut down our infrastructure.
	That's what these people are about.
	Shut down our infrastructure.
	Shut down our manufacturing.
	Shut down our energy.
	Prohibit and ban anything that we have.
	These people want us to go back into neo-feudalism, and they want population control.
	That's what this is really about.
	And it's all tied together with the smart cities.
	We've seen that over and over again.
	There's no new conspiracy here.
	It's just manifested itself yet again.
	A senior fellow at the Pacific Institute.
	He said, leaving more water in rivers for endangered fish is one thing, but water availability in LA is another.
	He said, those fights have been going on for a long time.
	They haven't affected in any way the water supply for firefighting in Southern California.
	But he said about 40% of LA city water comes from state-controlled projects connected to Northern California.
	And the state has limited the water that it...
	It's a state.
	It is totally political.
	No, no, no.
	You can't have that water.
	Then he says it's not even about the fight between the farmers and the cities needing water and the water that they want to leave there for the Delta smelt.
	He says not even that.
	He said the Southern California reservoirs, these canals that help feed them, he said they're above average level for this time of the year.
	There's so many different levels.
	Of incompetence.
	So they're saying, well, okay, well, the reservoirs have got water in it, and yet there's no water in the fire hydrants.
	What's going on with that?
	And then you have this.
	A professor of urban environmental policy at the University of California.
	He says, I think the conversation has to be more about whether or not these areas are habitable or not.
	Again, they want to have a smart city.
	They want to turn LA into a smart city, 2028 and so forth.
	They don't want people to have individual homes.
	They have come at it from a number of angles.
	Andrew Yang, who was pushing universal basic income, which is universal welfare, after they've taken everything from us, after they've killed our jobs, they've killed our businesses, they've killed the farms, you know, all the small stuff.
	And only the big guys are left, right?
	We've got the big box retailers, we've got Amazon, we've got the big agricultural concerns, but no small farmers, no small businesses, no Main Street, because they're not essential.
	Remember Trump?
	He's fully on board with this stuff, folks.
	Don't pretend otherwise.
	He called people non-essential.
	People still don't want to think about that, who support him.
	The plan has always been to take everything from us, and they do not want us to have these individual homes, so they've got a lot of different ways to do it.
	Andrew Yang, who is pushing the universal basic income, one of the things that he wanted to do was have the federal government decide that they're going to destroy all zoning laws or whatever.
	That'd be one way to destroy people's equity in their homes.
	I don't like zoning laws, but once they're there, when you start changing this stuff, it seems like it's always the small guys who get Who get hammered.
	Like I said, I don't like zoning laws.
	I've chosen not to live in areas where there's zoning laws.
	I've chosen especially not to live in areas where there's homeowners associations.
	I made that mistake once.
	Never again.
	But, you know, live and learn.
	But they come after it with zoning laws, or they come after it with regulations, or they come after it...
	With uncontrolled fires, they have so many different ways that they can do that.
	Vital LA firefighting equipment was handed to Ukraine, reports show.
	Several local headlines in prior years make it clear that area firefighters, this is from Zero Hedge, could have had more resources to draw from if significant emergency response supplies and items were not sent to Zelensky.
	To make money in an arms bazaar, whoever he is selling this stuff to.
	L.A. County fire crews are sending some of their extra equipment to firefighters in Ukraine.
	It was a local March 2022 story.
	It said the plane carrying that much-needed surplus equipment, such as hoses, nozzles, turnouts, helmets, body armor, other personal protective gear, is expected to take off on Friday.
	They just have such a surplus of gear that they can send it to Ukraine and let L.A. burn so many different aspects of incompetence or subversion.
	Putting Ukraine first is the Biden bad foreign policy that keeps on giving.
	And taking away from American citizens caught in the throes of emergency and disaster.
	Except that, wasn't it Mike Johnson and the GOP who said we're going to send money to Ukraine instead of helping the people with Hurricane Helene in western North Carolina?
	Yeah.
	See, this is what has happened to Zero Hedge.
	Breitbart passed that point a long time ago, along with Infowars.
	Now even Zero Hedge will not say anything negative about Trump.
	With all the nonsense about creating Region 1 North America, we're going to take Canada, we're going to take Greenland, we're going to do this and that.
	As people are talking about it, there was an interesting article that said the conservative leader who would be the prime minister if the conservatives get the majority, Pierre Polyev.
	They said he's walking a fine line between pushing back Trump's talk of taking over Canada and actually criticizing Trump.
	Got to be careful.
	Got to tiptoe around that.
	Even if you are a conservative member of the Canadian Parliament, you can't criticize Trump.
	And I tell you what, you know, I know.
	I've seen what's happened to this broadcast.
	It has been eviscerating for me to criticize Trump.
	Guess what?
	I would rather this show go down the tubes than to stop telling people what is going on, honestly, because I've got to tiptoe around this guy, this megalomaniac, who has no respect for us, who actually works for the globalists.
	He's done everything that they want.
	He has ticked all the boxes.
	He's done them in sync with people like Trudeau, Boris Johnson, Macron, everyone, you name it, they all did the same thing to us at the same time.
	And he did even more than that.
	Killshot, the actual bioweapon.
	Well, these people covered for him.
	I will never cover for him.
	And I will not cover for Mike Johnson or the GOP or for Pierre Polyev or whatever.
	These people who want to suck up to Trump.
	We got Jeff Bezos.
	Look at this.
	Jeff Bezos.
	$40 million documentary for the life of Melania Trump.
	And Michael Tracy says, maybe they can throw in an Amazon printed for sale sign to hang on the White House.
	Yeah, he's got to get in there with all these.
	It's amazing how everybody is throwing all this stuff at his feet and kissing his ring in every other part of his anatomy.
	It's just amazing to me.
	It disgusts me to see this.
	So anyway, they sent a lot of firefighting equipment to Ukraine because they're more important.
	And even as we had these people suffering in western North Carolina, Mike Johnson couldn't be bothered to interrupt his campaigning or anybody else's campaigning, but they could still send more, billions more to Ukraine.
	Never forget this bipartisan betrayal that is out there.
	It was absolutely bipartisan.
	And it disgusts me to see people like Zero Hedge look the other way.
	Oh, it's just Biden people.
	Yeah, it's Biden.
	Blame Biden.
	Fine.
	But blame Mike Johnson and blame the GOP as well.
	Supporters of such programs argue that it was all just surplus and it was required.
	Well, if it was of any use to Ukraine, it would have been of use yesterday, wouldn't it?
	One person said, this is like a third world country.
	There is no water coming out of the fire hydrants.
	And L.A. Mayor Karen Bass is on a foreign trip to Ghana.
	Well, again, you know, as I said, listener Adam said, you know, they spend billions on warplanes.
	But their pockets are empty when it comes to saving lives of property here.
	Why aren't we seeing robots being used?
	Why aren't we seeing...
	As he points out, China's got firefighting robots.
	We can't do any of that.
	As a matter of fact, I've seen video of them with firefighting drones to help with high-rise fires.
	It's a very difficult thing if you've got a high-rise and you've got a fire.
	It's a difficult thing to get the water up there.
	So they've got drones that they're using to deliver firefighting equipment.
	We're not going to do any of that.
	All we can do...
	We can spend all of our time and money on efforts to build machines to kill people.
	We can spend time and money on efforts to build technology, to read our minds, or to control our thoughts, or to control and look at our speech, AI to propagandize us.
	AI to lie to us.
	All of our money is channeled into the most evil devices, and our government never does anything to help us.
	Never.
	Not even when you get an area that is wiped out by a hurricane.
	They will never spend a dime or develop any technology that can be of any use to us.
	It's all about weapons that they use against us.
	Everything they do is weaponized.
	It's exactly what Eisenhower warned about, the military-industrial complex, and it has been completely taken over.
	By these dark forces.
	I call them dark forces because they are satanic.
	The pentagram.
	The Department of Defense.
	DARPA. The rest of these people.
	They are heavily into the occult.
	Just like I was showing you yesterday.
	A Navy SEAL, CIA guy.
	So you did remote viewing.
	Let's talk about that.
	Did you see anything about Jesus or the cross or anything?
	It's real quiet.
	I'm not going to see anything.
	And it's like, oh, you met some aliens?
	Oh, yeah, let's talk about aliens.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Man, I tell you, these people are so far into the occult, and that's one of the reasons why they let the rest of us die.
	But we don't have firefighting robots or drones or anything like that.
	But we do have a lesbian DEI virtue signaling.
	Never enough diversity, she said.
	The L.A. Fire Department spent years pushing super-woke policies.
	The LA Fire Department has implemented an internal, quote, racial equity plan.
	Subjected employees to diversity training currently is led by Chief Kristen Crowley, the first female and LGBTQ fire chief at the LA Fire Department.
	The department's racial equity plan, adopted in 2021, asserts that the LA Fire Department is a better firefighting organization for focusing on the demographic characteristics of its personnel.
	You think so?
	You know, the fire doesn't really care about your sexual preferences or your fantasies or if you think you're in the wrong body or any of that other kind of stuff.
	It really doesn't care about your skin color either.
	It ought to be merit-based.
	Shortly after taking over the top job at the LA Fire Department in 2022, Crowley made it clear in a local news segment that one of her top priorities would be increasing the department's diversity.
	In the interview, She suggested that she does not look to meet specific demographic quotas in the fire department because there's never enough diversity.
	That's right.
	Los Angeles Fire Department is launching its first ever Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Bureau.
	It is dedicated to ensuring a fair and equal workplace environment.
	These news people are nodding their head and smiling.
	This is great.
	It's necessary.
	Christiane?
	It's necessary.
	Colleen, the discrepancies are stark, even just on paper.
	The LEFD this year hired its first ever female chief, and it says so far this year 8% of its applicants have been women.
	That might sound like a small number, but it's actually twice the percentage of female firefighters currently in the department.
	Yeah, the crisis is we don't have enough of this type of person or that type of person.
	These people are racist and sexist and useless.
	Why does she dress like a man if she wants to be a DEI woman?
	The plan is to do so by adding training and enforcing accountability.
	Calls for accountability have echoed for years.
	In 2021, women's advocacy groups, including one representing female firefighters, pushed for changes at the highest level, saying a system within the department exposes them to abuse, bullying, and a culture of intimidation and retaliation.
	Well, there you have a report from the matriarchy.
	Two women and the...
	In the newsroom, there's anchors and woman reporter out there talking about how wonderful it is that they're going to have women firefighters.
	And I wonder if any of those women doing that report two years ago, I wonder if they lost their homes and how they feel about it now.
	You like the fact that they got more women firefighters and they didn't invest in any equipment and they're still playing these gender games?
	You like that?
	How do you like losing your home?
	LA County also posted on October 24th a video touting a one-day DEI planning event hosted by the Anti-Racism Diversity and Inclusion Initiative.
	So, before being confirmed, Crowley vowed to, quote, fully commit to fostering a diverse, equitable, and inclusive culture within the LA Fire Department.
	No, you've got one job.
	Make sure that you can put out fires.
	Instead, what she wants to do is burn society down.
	So, again, regardless of qualifications, they're going to be hiring people who have checked the boxes.
	People ask me, well, what number are you looking for, Crowley said.
	I'm not looking for a number.
	It's never enough.
	Addicted to it, like these rich people.
	You're the richest man in the world.
	How much is enough?
	Just a little bit more.
	Only 115 of the city's 3,330 firefighters are women, the station observed.
	I wonder, can those 115 women, can they carry somebody out of a burning building?
	Does it have strength to do that?
	It's not an easy job.
	As they report, a 25-year-old female firefighter has sustained serious head injury.
	Battling this Palisades fire.
	Well, the response of some of the people as they talk about this is, one person said, well, I wonder if people will start respecting climate science now.
	That's California.
	That's the response of a lot of these people.
	If we had only listened to Michael Mann and Al Gore, we'd be fine now.
	Yeah.
	You've got to respect climate science now.
	Stop worrying about climate change and start thinking about government change.
	Forget about changing the climate.
	Think about changing your government.
	As I said before, hurricanes in Florida, tornadoes in the Midwest, fires in California.
	This is not a change.
	This has always been going on.
	And the change has been in the response to these things.
	The change is that our response is getting increasingly, I guess deadwood is the best way to describe it, because deadwood is one of the biggest problems with the fire, but it's deadwood in the government.
	And it's people who are dead between their ears.
	Like this person commented and said, well, we're going to respect climate change now.
	As California wildfires rage, Some question Biden's ban on controlled burns.
	And also the DEI fire chief.
	Look, it's really about getting the deadwood out of there.
	These controlled burns can get out of control.
	If you've got a lot of fuel on the ground, that may not be a good thing to do.
	Do you remember the Hammonds up in Oregon?
	Do you remember how they did a backburn to protect their property?
	And because it didn't burn any trees out there where they were, it's just open prairie.
	So it burned some weeds and shrubs.
	And it was a small area, just a couple of acres.
	And they came after them with terrorist charges.
	And so wait a minute, the government does backburns all the time.
	And they've had backburns that have gotten out of control.
	But again, they came after them with terrorist charges because they wanted their property.
	Bottom line.
	And you can put them out of business with the fines and take the father and the grandfather and you put them in jail.
	So, control burns are not necessarily the solution.
	James Wood, talking about the loss of his home.
	Again, I showed you the pictures of his neighbor sent to him driving through the neighborhood.
	And they did a great job of evacuating people out.
	And he said to all the wonderful people who've reached out to us, just letting you know that we were able to evacuate successfully, I do not know at the moment if our home is still standing with sadly houses on our little street or not.
	We were blessed to have LA Fire and Police Departments doing their jobs so well we are safe and out.
	There were several elementary schools in our neighborhood.
	There was an enormous community effort to evacuate the children safely.
	Cannot speak more highly of the LA Fire and LA Police Department.
	An ex-user then said the irony.
	James Woods, known for his skepticism about climate change, losing his home to the very wildfires linked to climate change impacts in California is striking.
	James Woods responded, he said, the fire is not from climate change, you ignorant a-hole.
	It's because liberal idiots like you elect liberal idiots like Newsom and Karen Bass.
	One doesn't understand the first thing about fire management.
	And the other one, can't fill a water reservoir.
	He also posted a photo of the L.A. Fire Chief, Kristen Crowley, and this is the photo that he puts up.
	This is her profile.
	He said her policies are stated in her bio.
	She says, creating and supporting and promoting a culture that values diversity, inclusion, and equity while striving to meet and to exceed expectations of the communities are Chief Crowley's priorities.
	And she is grateful for the opportunity to serve the city of L.A. She's fiddling around with gender games while the city burns.
	He said refilling the water reservoirs would have been a welcome priority too, but I guess she had too much on her plate in promoting diversity.
	And later on, he said, well, now all the fire alarms are going off at once remotely.
	He said, it tests your soul losing everything at once, I must say, he said.
	And I feel sorry for him.
	I mean, he's, I don't know, I don't know what his financial situation is.
	He hasn't worked for a long time because he's been banned in Hollywood, but he's probably pretty wealthy.
	You know, the people who are 90 years old and lost their home.
	It is a difficult thing, as I said, you know, whenever you lose everything.
	And when I look at that, I look at the total devastation of a fire where nothing is saved.
	As I said, Karen's brother, and they lost their home and nothing was saved.
	Because they were gone.
	The lightning hit it in the middle of the night and nobody really noticed that it was on fire until it was a raging inferno.
	And then the neighbors, some of the neighbors woke up.
	But it was in the middle, wee hours of the morning.
	And so it had to be, you know, it was going on for quite some time before anybody noticed, before anybody called the fire department.
	But, you know, isn't that really what everything in this world is ultimately about?
	We're told that everything is going to burn.
	It doesn't matter what things that you have done.
	I mean, when you die, everything is going to be left behind.
	Assuage that by saying, well, yeah, but I, you know, people who have done, very famous, you know, maybe they're a movie star, maybe they're a politician, maybe they did something like make Greenland a part of the United States.
	The bottom line is all of your accomplishments, things that you've left behind.
	Maybe you're going to build a building and, oh, this is a masterpiece of a building and it's going to...
	Well, you know, we've had some buildings that have stayed up for a thousand years in the UK and other places like that that are still pretty impressive.
	But everything is going to burn one day.
	Nothing is going to remain.
	That's something to think about.
	L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, again, as I said, she was on a trip with a boondoggle with the Office of Management and Budget.
	They don't care at all about saving money.
	None whatsoever.
	So, Karen Bass cut the fire department budget by $418 million.
	Who would think that you would have a fire in LA? We're going to have to prepare for the common natural disaster here.
	Now she's asking for volunteers to fight a fire.
	All while she is on vacation in Ghana.
	Yeah.
	I think this really kind of sums up California.
	Here's a clip.
	I played for you before, you know, the jingle that we all know.
	Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.
	Well, here is Barry Manilow.
	Who wrote that jingle?
	Singing with Rosie O'Donnell.
	They had a thing where they got together and they sang a bunch of the commercials they wrote.
	It's amazing how many commercial jingles Barry Manilow wrote.
	But here's the two of them, and this really kind of sums it up, doesn't it?
	You've got all three of them.
	You've got California, you've got the radical leftists, the Hollywood stars, and you've even got State Farm all thrown in.
	Whenever you're driving and wherever you're found They still play this one.
	Yeah, they still play it.
	Well, no, actually, State Farm has gotten to a better state.
	That's the new jingle.
	We're going to get to a better state.
	Oh, look, Karen Bass's budget called for the elimination of L.A.'s Emergency Management Department's positions, the department that is running this show.
	This is after she cut the fire department.
	First of all, she cut the fire department by $418 million.
	Then she did another $17 million.
	Then she ran the emergency management department, cut them.
	She called for the elimination of them, but she didn't get that done.
	Those are the people who are actually organizing the response.
	Maybe they should be fired.
	I don't know.
	We're going to take a quick break and we will be right back.
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	Well, we've got a lot of comments here.
	Brandon's Revenge.
	For a minute, I thought I had to awaken to the Terminator.
	Began the show with a clip from, if you're just joining, with a clip from last year's State Farm Super Bowl commercial.
	And at Arnold Schwarzenegger, Brian and Deb McCartney, they want L.A. as a smart...
	Yeah, they want it as a kind of get a little early start on the smart cities that they want to push in on us on 2030. Denver Attaway.
	I'm telling you, PG&E has been fined tens of millions.
	One ruling held them liable for over one billion because of the fires that they continue to cause to the awful infrastructure that's there.
	Nobody's talked about the cause of this yet.
	I mean, late last night, they had zero percent containment of the fire.
	And it was just all about, you know, what is going on?
	They haven't even gotten to the point where they try to figure out what started it.
	And many times it has been started by electric companies, faulty equipment.
	Let's see.
	Speedrow 626. Insurance began about 100 years ago.
	Farmers backing each other.
	Against natural disasters or crop failure.
	Hence, state farm.
	Well, you know, that might be the way to go.
	Folks, we've got to rebuild our society, and it's going to only be rebuilt from the bottom up.
	It's not going to be done from the top down.
	The rot, the stench, is from the top down.
	Don't look to these people in Washington.
	Don't even look to your government to fix this stuff.
	It's going to have to be done by us if it's going to be done.
	That's the kind of spirit that used to be around America.
	That's what made America work.
	But now, everything has been taken over by corporations.
	And the corporations have been taken over by the Marxists who have marched through the institution.
	Just as Antonio Gramsci had said, the guy that Pete Boutier's father loved and trained him to be like.
	Is that an issue in New York?
	Or are they just trying to make it so expensive that nobody can own a home?
	The foundation wall has to be 18 inches as opposed to 8 inches.
	Well, here's the thing.
	I subscribe to the Three Little Pigs philosophy of home building.
	You should be able to if you want.
	Build your home out of straw or out of sticks or out of bricks and suffer the consequences that's necessary because the alternative is, you know, certainly people can be informed that, you know, when the big bad wolf comes around, he's going to blow your house down.
	Maybe you need to build it out of bricks, but not everybody can afford to build their house out of bricks.
	And some people would, they're not going to have a home if they can't build it out of straw or sticks.
	And so, if you have a situation where people are allowed to build the homes that they can afford, then if there is damage or destruction to their homes, they can rebuild it.
	They can rebuild that stick home, or they can rebuild that straw home.
	And yet, what we're seeing in North Carolina is that when you had volunteers come in, you had the Amish come in, Mennonites are doing it as well, building homes for people.
	No, no, you can't have that here.
	No.
	We're going to tear that down.
	You don't have water and electricity to this home, so we're going to tear your home down.
	It's like you tear my home down.
	I don't have water and electricity either, right?
	Can't I build what can be done in the moment or what I can afford at the moment?
	No.
	You're going to build it to our standards or you'll have nothing.
	It's going to be what we consider to be perfect or it'll be nothing.
	I really don't like that.
	I prefer the three little pigs model.
	I think people need to, if somebody, if they have, if a flood is wiped out of the air, no, you can't have now, we've declared this a flood area, so you cannot have a mobile home.
	And yet, FEMA goes in and lives in very, very nice mobile homes that they have set up, manufactured houses that they put in.
	They're allowed to stay there.
	FEMA allows itself to stay there and stay in these types of homes.
	But not you.
	Not you.
	Blotin says there were 15 trucks lined up in a lot in Pacific Palisades area waiting for instructions.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Are they following?
	Must have been trained by FEMA, where they have people go collect $8,000 a week.
	Handy.
	Handy.
	Sorry.
	I don't mean to compare you to that guy.
	Handy said, yeah, we saw this stuff because he does EMS. He said, we saw they were going to pay them.
	$8,000 a week.
	And he said, for weeks, they've been sitting in hotel rooms as well, doing nothing.
	S.A. Moore, I watch firemen spend two to three hours putting out a fire on a single home under ordinary conditions.
	There are reports of 500 homes destroyed in five hours.
	Yeah.
	And they don't have any control over this now.
	I mean, it's a massive disaster.
	But again, they were caught unprepared.
	Uninterested in doing anything to alleviate that.
	Not at all interested.
	Nada Southern Bell writes, State Farm will not replace your roof due to hail damage.
	Whoa.
	That's important to know.
	All my neighbors had their roofs replaced.
	I had to sue them.
	So it cost me $10,000 instead of my $1,000 deductible.
	I live in South Mississippi.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	This is why people are talking about the fact that this guy Luigi Mangione might get off with jury nullification.
	Because people hate these insurance companies so much.
	They might let him get away with murder.
	Because evidently, these insurance companies, like the pharmaceutical companies, are getting away with murder in one form or the other.
	Audi, Modern Retro Radio, good to see you.
	He says, we're witnessing phase one of Build Back Better from the North Carolina hurricane to the California fires to the East Palestine, Ohio train wreck and toxic spill and on and on.
	Yeah, I know.
	There's not...
	You look at it and it's the combination of government incompetence and you have to say, at what point do you separate that from malice and design?
	And at what point does it really matter if they're that incompetent?
	So...
	This is, let's cover a little bit of news here of other topics, miscellaneous topics here.
	We've got Wall Street Journal, I thought.
	It's kind of interesting.
	They finally got around about a month after Brian Shulhavi at Health Impact News talked about Elon Musk being one of the top 20 globally in a very widely played video game, competing against people who make millions doing this.
	And yet he's in the top 20. And you don't get to that level unless you play it all day and all night type of thing.
	I mean, you've got to be dedicated to this kind of stuff.
	And so Brian Shulhavi said, so what does this tell us about him?
	Well, it tells us that he's not the one running the companies.
	What is it that he's doing?
	What is his job?
	His job is to buy the politicians, as you see him doing with Donald Trump.
	This is a Wall Street Journal headline now.
	Again, about a month after Brian Shulhavi pointed this out, Musk vaulted to the top of a popular video game, and everyone is asking where he found the time.
	He's head of six companies, but he recently became one of the world's top Diablo 4 players, a milestone gamers say would have required playing all day, every day.
	He said the blockbuster video game is set in a dark fantasy realm that involves making elixirs and slaying demons.
	But there is nothing about any video game that's going to be a darker fantasy than what Elon Musk wants to do to us in real life.
	This is a guy who wants to put brain-computer interface chips in our heads.
	This is a guy who wants us to become transhumanist cyborgs.
	This is a guy who says, unless we do that, we're all going to die.
	And that he's summoning the demons with his artificial intelligence.
	This is a guy that is worshipped by the right from Babylon Bee to the MAGA cult.
	He saved free speech.
	Look at this.
	He's our free speech warrior.
	No!
	He paid $45 billion or whatever it was.
	He paid that so that he could pick your brain and feed it into his AI. And so that he could manipulate public opinion to support him.
	There's no altruism here.
	None whatsoever.
	You know, government uses this AI to surveil and control us.
	You know, you might use it for other things, just like a computer.
	You know, I had somebody yesterday say, oh, yes, David Knight says that AI is demonic and is evil, and yet he uses it for his graphics.
	It's like, you're right, I do.
	It's the very same thing as computers.
	You know, computers can be used to launch nuclear war, or computers can be used to surveil and control us, or I can use a computer for good purposes, but the government will use it for that.
	And that's the point.
	When I talk about AI, I talk about how the government is using it as a weapon against us.
	And when I talk about it being demonic, I say, don't be taken in by it.
	Don't rely on it for information.
	It will lie to you.
	It's trained to lie to you.
	Wholesale egg prices.
	We had a listener yesterday saying, I live in a rural area and for the first time there's no eggs at any price on the shelves.
	So this is Zero Hedge.
	Wholesale egg prices hit record shortages reported at supermarkets.
	They said this is the ongoing devastating impact of the highly pathogenic avian influenza.
	No, it's not!
	Bird flu isn't doing this to us.
	The government is doing it to us.
	Supposedly to save us from bird flu.
	Just like COVID didn't do anything.
	Everybody said, well, COVID did this and COVID did that.
	COVID locked us down.
	COVID put masks on our face.
	No, that was Trump.
	And it was Biden.
	It wasn't COVID. And this is not being done to us by bird flu.
	It would be their response, even if this was real.
	And it's not real.
	It's not a real issue.
	You know, even if the PCR was returning legitimate results, the response wouldn't make any sense.
	It's like the climate change MacGuffin, right?
	Even if climate change were real, does the Paris Climate Accord, in response to that, does that make any sense?
	Are you going to allow China to add two coal power plants per week?
	Well, you tell everybody else in the world that coal is not allowed, not even if you put scrubbers on it?
	No, there's another agenda going on here with that.
	You know, even if their paradigm, even if their MacGuffin were true, their solution doesn't make any sense.
	And even if their PCR were able to identify and not give us false positives, which is what it does, they've magnified it so much, but even if it was able to identify disease, Not all birds die if they get bird flu.
	But if one bird tests positive, they don't even have to have any sick birds.
	They kill all the birds.
	Now, how does that make any sense?
	It doesn't.
	There's another agenda going on here.
	And you can see the agenda in the wholesale food prices.
	As they point out, they said that food prices have gone up by about 70%.
	In the last two months, compared to November.
	In California alone, USDA data showed the price of a dozen large white eggs spiked to as high as $8.97 last week, up from $5.23 in late November.
	A 70% increase from Thanksgiving to today.
	I mean, that's not even two months, right?
	We're talking maybe six weeks?
	70% increase.
	So, never underestimate, or to say, to quote George W. Bush, never misunderstand the power of the government to destroy.
	And to do it quickly.
	They said 17 million egg-laying hens and younger birds, known as pullets, had been culled since mid-October.
	One of the worst stretches in the current bird flu outbreak since the virus first emerged.
	And national flocks in February 2022. That's the way they report it.
	That's absolute nonsense.
	And that's Bloomberg, and Zero Hedges paraphrasing what they had to say.
	Again, it's not the virus that's killing them.
	It's the government.
	It's their tactic that is causing 17 million egg-laying hens to die.
	They wouldn't lose all of...
	Look, worst-case scenario.
	You have a case fatality rate of 100%.
	It wouldn't be all of them.
	And the ones who survived would be ones who had better immune systems or whatever, if this were real.
	It's not real.
	They're going in, getting a PCR test, and just killing every last bird.
	The PCR test magnifies whatever it sees in the old version.
	They've got a more sensitive digital version now.
	The old version.
	They're running it for 40 cycles.
	They would magnify whatever they're looking for to find anything.
	They could find anything, said Kerry Mullis, the developer of it.
	So they magnified 1.1 trillion times.
	And then you have this, you know, they kill all the birds.
	Case fatality rate of 100%.
	We don't have anything that's that bad.
	Nothing that is that bad.
	How in the world could they possibly even justify that?
	Google search trend of egg shortage has erupted to the highest levels since late 2022. This is all happening as predicted, all happening as planned.
	Egg shelves in Northern California, what's going on here?
	In all my life, I've never seen food shortages like this.
	Unacceptable, said one person on Twitter.
	Another one says, seems like there is an egg scam.
	Yearly now.
	A so-called shortage and then prices skyrocket.
	Well, there's a real shortage.
	But understand that it's not affecting the big companies like it is the smaller ones.
	The purpose of this is to put small farms out of business, and then they will come for your backyard chickens.
	One person says, get backyard chickens for a steady supply of your own eggs.
	That's where they're going to go, though, after they put the small farms out of business.
	Consider building a chicken coop, planting a garden as steps towards becoming ungovernable.
	Yes, that's right.
	We need to do that, and that's the sad reality of what is happening.
	In D.C., we have Lauren Boebert has introduced a bill to abolish the ATF. Now, we could all cheer for that, except there's some problems here in the details.
	I'm 100% for this.
	100% for it.
	It's a great thing.
	The problem is that...
	The Republicans, even when they do the right thing, they'll frequently do it for the wrong reason.
	Which keeps them from actually getting the right thing done.
	So, I'm 100% for abolishing the alcohol, tobacco, and firearms.
	And I'm also 100% for getting rid of the EPA, 100% for getting rid of both of the DEEs, the Department of Education, the Department of Energy.
	Let's get rid of all of these things and just keep going.
	All these alphabet agencies for which there is no constitutional support.
	These things that are not allowed under the Constitution, if you read the Constitution, the 9th and 10th Amendment, they were not given explicit power to get into these different areas.
	As a matter of fact, the very existence of the ATF is repudiation of the Second Amendment.
	Every regulation that the ATF does is an infringement on our God-given right of self-defense.
	Every single thing they do is an infringement.
	And the founders didn't say, you're not going to prohibit guns.
	They said, you're not going to infringe on them.
	They knew how this stuff works.
	It's nothing new for Fauci to say, how do we get this done?
	Well, we do it with disruption and chaos, and we do it from the inside, and we do it iteratively.
	That's what infringement is about.
	And so we have, in the First Amendment, Congress shall make no law abridging free speech and free exercise of religion and all that kind of stuff.
	They could do that with a law.
	But they're not going to take the guns all at once.
	They have to do it a series.
	And that's what these regulations all are.
	Its very existence is a repudiation of the Second Amendment.
	In November 2024, Representative Eric Burleson, a Republican, called for the agency to be abolished as well.
	On November 25th, he said, in an interview, he said, for several decades, they've been a disaster agency which has been violating the Second Amendment.
	ADF issued numerous, now here's where Breitbart covers for Trump.
	You know, because I've talked about it multiple times, how Trump set the precedent for gun control by executive order.
	And that Biden followed it.
	And that Lala Harris said immediately after he did it, oh, I'm going to give Congress 100 days, and if they don't enact my gun control agenda, I'll do it by executive order.
	She said that right after Trump said, I can do the bump stock.
	I can take the bump stock out.
	And then in 2019, he decided that he was going to do pistol braces next.
	And he prohibited pistol braces.
	The ATF under him.
	And it is his responsibility.
	When they talk about what the ATF is doing, they lay it at the feet of Biden.
	And they're absolutely right to do that.
	But they won't lay it at the feet of Trump when he's president.
	You see?
	And so he put in the pistol brace in 2019. He took it out in December of 2020 when he was fighting to stay in office.
	And because he had opposition on that one from the NRA, the NRA just laid down and said, no, you can do the bump stock stuff.
	We don't care.
	Others saw the principle that was being established, but the NRA didn't care.
	The NRA did care about the pistol brace, and so Trump removed it in December of 2020, and then Biden...
	On taking office, picked it up again.
	And Breitbart just ignores all of that.
	And points to it being 100% Biden.
	But Trump set the precedent, and Trump even put in pistol braces.
	This is what Breitbart says.
	The ATF issued numerous rules during the Biden and Harris administration.
	See?
	Always making about partisan politics, aren't they?
	Criminalized owners of legally purchased AR pistol stabilizers.
	That's a pistol brace.
	Another one of the ATF's rules declared that 80% firearm frames are firearms, and yet another ATF rule circumvented Congress via new regulations against private gun sales.
	Okay, so Trump does a precedent.
	He does the first two, the bump stock and the pistol brace.
	And then under Biden, you have three of them, and one of them is the pistol brace again.
	But it's all Biden.
	Trump didn't have anything to do with it.
	The first president.
	To say that I can do gun control.
	I don't need to have Congress violate the Constitution.
	I can do that myself, fortunately.
	So, Boebert has rallied against the ATF in the last Congress, saying that the agency goes way too far in rulemaking authorities.
	Wait a minute.
	If you read the Constitution, they don't have any rulemaking authorities.
	They don't have the authority to infringe on anything.
	None whatsoever.
	So they still don't address...
	Congress still doesn't address the problem.
	She said in February of last year, there's been a lot of talk about defunding the ATF, even abolishing the agency altogether, and I'm still waiting to hear a good reason why the ATF should remain an agency at all.
	Instead of providing regulations that keep our communities safe.
	What?
	Instead of providing regulations that keep our communities safe, this agency has made our communities more dangerous.
	By wandering weapons...
	Wandering, I think she means, supposed to mean laundering weapons to the cartels.
	You know, the Fast and Furious is what she refers to, that type of thing.
	Look, even a Republican congresswoman who puts in a bill to get rid of the ATF thinks that they have a legitimate purpose in providing regulations to keep us safe.
	Are you kidding me?
	You've got a choice here.
	You can have safety, or you can have liberty in the Constitution.
	Which one are you going to do here?
	We've already sworn obedience to the Constitution.
	So you've violated your oath if you're saying that the regulations from the ATF are there to keep people safe.
	That's what their job is.
	No, they don't have a job.
	They don't have a job.
	They don't have a legitimate reason to exist at all.
	And then they said, the ATF has been accused of regulatory overreach.
	Every regulation that they have is overreach because every regulation that they've got infringes.
	Well, I hope they do something about it.
	We'll see.
	But they still don't understand what the issue is.
	They don't understand the issue.
	They don't understand, and they won't address the fact, that Congress has abdicated its lawmaking to the bureaucrats who do rules.
	And what's even worse, because they have no accountability, they're not elected, what's even worse is that they claim, and this is not true, they claim that a regulation is not a law.
	It's the same thing.
	You and I know that.
	But they say, well, because it's a regulation and not a law, none of the protections of the Bill of Rights apply.
	So if you're going to go with that, then why would you, if they're going to just wipe out the Bill of Rights by saying, we're going to let laws be made by bureaucrats, and then we're going to say that the Bill of Rights doesn't apply, well, why wouldn't they do gun control by executive order and the executive branch and the bureaucracies?
	That's a given.
	Emulated Void said he doesn't play.
	I saw a new video where pro players say that he doesn't know what he's doing.
	A Path of Exile 2. Well, it's interesting.
	I don't know how he gets that there.
	Maybe he's got AI playing it for him.
	Maybe he's got Grok is actually should be the name that is in the top 20 that's there.
	Who knows?
	He certainly has taken a lot of time off to hang around with Trump and to travel and Mar-a-Lago, and so has Mike Johnson.
	Mike Johnson's always, you know, when they pose for pictures, he's always photobombing them, sticking his head in the frame.
	Somebody said Pierre Polyev in Canada is another Mike Johnson.
	Certainly sounds like it if he's got to walk the line, figure out how he's not going to offend President Trump.
	Wow.
	Atomic Dog.
	The week of Christmas, dozens of large eggs were $9.95 at my grocery store.
	They are $6 now.
	Oh, that's good that they've gone down.
	As a matter of fact, I've got your email, Atomic Dog, about the shooting.
	I haven't had time to go through it yet because it's fire stuff and everything, but I'm going to get to it.
	Little Ford Schoolhouse.
	Good to see you there.
	I hope things are going well in your home.
	They lost family.
	Lost their mother just before the holidays.
	So keep their family in your prayers.
	Eggs I get here are now $22 per five dozen.
	It used to be $11 at the beginning of 24, and they've kept creeping up.
	Wow.
	And they're here in Tennessee.
	I have no idea how much our eggs cost us.
	We pay dearly in terms of trying to keep these things alive.
	I'm surprised that they've made it this far.
	We've got some Rhode Island Reds, the biggest birds I've ever seen.
	And then we got some other ones in the barn, and their water was freezing up.
	And so we're out there with all this freezing weather.
	We're trying to get the water unfrozen.
	I spent a couple of hours on this stuff yesterday.
	The heat lamp didn't work to keep the water from freezing.
	Anyway, Maverick Pilgrim, thank you for the tip.
	He says, at least in my area, there's an increased demand for free-range eggs.
	If your chickens experience winter, They don't lay all year round.
	So, in some cases, it's not a shortage.
	It's not egg season.
	Yeah, ours has still been laying for some reason.
	Not in the same quantity that they've been doing in the past, but a lot of people have said that their chickens stopped laying eggs.
	Of course, ours are young.
	They're not even a year old, but that may be part of it.
	Stealth Patriot, the new American Daily Show is no more.
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	I didn't know that.
	I had to shut down their daily show.
	Well, that's sad to see.
	I mean, there's a lot of good information that I've gotten from New American.
	I always liked their stuff.
	Lately, though, they've been afraid to criticize Trump.
	But that's not what's doing it to them.
	It's tough.
	It's tough in the news business right now.
	Germany.
	Germany's got a gun grab going.
	And they are focusing on the AFD, on their political opposition.
	It is weaponized.
	The gun control is weaponized against their opponents.
	They have deemed the alternative for Deutschland members, because they're about stopping open immigration and other things, is a populist conservative party.
	And I think they, I don't know what their situation is on climate stuff, but the German government that's there right now, they don't care what happens to the people.
	They're going to follow the World Economic Forum, climate change, the UN climate change stuff.
	But they say that the AFD Is, quote, a danger to public safety.
	No, actually, the AFD is a danger to the establishment, a danger to them losing their seats in Parliament.
	That's what's going to happen.
	So far, five AFD members have received a notice that their gun license would be revoked.
	They have to have a license there.
	If you have to have a license, it's not a right.
	Licenses are government privileges that can, if they're going to give you the privilege, they can revoke it.
	Another member voluntarily returned his license after revocation procedures were initiated.
	Another 51 cases are currently being examined by authorities.
	In total, there are 74 members of the AFD just in one region of Germany, Saxony on halt.
	They hold a firearms license, 49 registered as sport shooters, and 25 as hunters.
	And evidently, you're not allowed, I guess, in Germany to have a gun for self-defense.
	You know, one of the first places that we had modern gun control laws was in Nazi Germany.
	Got to turn them all in.
	Got to turn them all in.
	When I was with the Libertarian Party and I would talk to the press and I ran for office, they would ask, well, you want to get rid of the ATF? And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, certainly.
	Well, you can't do that.
	And you can't, I said, it's a check on government power.
	It's not a check on government power.
	I said, do you understand what happened in Germany?
	And do you understand what happened in the Warsaw Ghetto as you had people there who had no firearms?
	But they took out a German soldier, took his gun, used his gun to get more guns, and as they started arming themselves with the guns of leftover soldiers, leftover guns of soldiers who were no longer with them, they tied down a couple of panzer divisions, I think, for quite some time.
	And they couldn't conquer these people with all of their modern equipment.
	Firearms, handguns, that type of thing.
	So what they wound up doing on April 19th, the same day that the ATF burned down the Branch Davidians, they just burned down the Warsaw Ghetto.
	But, yeah, guns in the hands of a population can be very, very effective.
	Just ask the U.S. military how things went in Iraq and other places where they had asymmetric warfare is what it's called.
	The revocation, and it is a mutually assured destruction.
	You know, it's a bad thing.
	It's a bad thing, but nobody wants that.
	Should not want it.
	But, you know, we have an armed, we have the Second Amendment, and we have an armed populace for the same reason that you have nuclear weapons.
	You hope you don't use them, but you have them as a deterrent to other people using them against you.
	The revocation of gun license comes after.
	The Office for the Protection of the Constitution.
	That's what they call their CIA. Or their FBI or whatever.
	I mean, they call it the BFV. V. It's not a BFD as a big deal.
	Germany's powerful domestic intelligence agency.
	That's the BFV. Classified the AFD as...
	Certainly, right-wing extremists, quote-unquote.
	The BFV is a highly politicized intelligence agency targeting domestic threats to the constitutional order, while critics contend that it is designed to snuff out political opposition.
	It is just like the FBI and the CIA. I wonder if they were trained by the CIA after World War II. I mean, you know, we trained after we overthrew the Iranian government that was elected.
	And put in the Shah, we trained his secret police, the SAVAC, the CIA did.
	In 2023, the Jira Administrative Court ruled that the Thuringian Ministry of the Interior cannot revoke firearm licenses of AFD members in a blanket measure.
	In other words, they were just going to say, if you are a member of the AFD, you can't own a firearm.
	But they left it open.
	For individual cases.
	And so, that's what they're doing.
	They're coming after them on a one-by-one basis.
	So, this is...
	Oh, one last story here, which I thought was kind of funny.
	Apple Computer fired 145 of their H1B Apple employees.
	These are people who came from one region of India.
	It is kind of a...
	It's a region of India where they have a particular language that they speak, and that's the name that they have for the region.
	The Telugu.
	Telugu is the name of the...
	That's what they call their tongue, and it's also what they call their region.
	Well, these are 145 people.
	They realize Apple does matching funds to charities.
	So they set up a charity that was them.
	They would put money in the charity and then they would tell Apple and Apple would match that.
	They got hoisted by their own H-1B petard, didn't they?
	So, yeah, they fired them en masse.
	And so people started looking at this and saying, you know, what's going on with this?
	Why did they fire 145 Indians?
	We'll be right back.
	Here's a little song I wrote.
	You might want to hear it in your pod.
	You know nothing.
	And be happy.
	Ain't got no cash.
	Ain't got no car.
	But 24 booster shots in your arm.
	Oh, nothing.
	Be happy.
	You can't even buy s***.
	In the store, because of your low social credit score, own nothing.
	Be happy.
	You will own nothing.
	Woo-hoo!
	And be happy.
	Be happy and eat the bugs.
	They're doing what?
	In the place they named after me?
	Good thing I have the David Knight Show to keep me informed on the plots of these traitors.
	Making sense.
	Common again.
	This is the David Knight Show.
	All right.
	Red Beard John says that Safeway, where I live, five dozen eggs, if you can find them, are $39.99, $40 for five dozen eggs.
	Wow.
	That's amazing.
	And a tip and a tip.
	A couple of tips.
	A dollar tip as well as a suggestion tip from Trevolong.
	Thank you very much.
	Says, David, buy submersible heaters on Amazon.
	They're cheap and a lifesaver.
	There we go.
	We'll have to do that.
	Actually, there's a farm co-op here.
	If I can find it there, we'll get it from them.
	If not, I'll have to go to Amazon as a last resort.
	But thank you for the tip.
	I thought about it.
	We're newbies in terms of chickens.
	Like I said, we've tried them.
	This is our third try.
	And in Texas, they never made it this far.
	There's just too many critters out there.
	Coyotes and everything else are getting them.
	Even though we had cages and we thought we had these things set up, they'd get in there one way or the other.
	Anyway, let's talk about what is happening in Manhattan.
	At the beginning of the year, they started doing congestion tolls.
	And that's something that we've seen in the UK. It's basically communist rationing.
	You know, you've got one job the government does.
	Many people say, well, you know, you've got to have government.
	Who's going to do the roads?
	And we would always say, well, maybe the government is doing such a bad job.
	Maybe we ought to have somebody else do the roads.
	As a matter of fact, the Consumer Electronics Show, it's kind of interesting to see the kind of stuff that is coming up at the Consumer Electronics Show.
	Somebody came up with a hypercar.
	And, you know, if you're rich enough and you want to drive a car, you want to drive it fast, this is a hypercar that actually jumps over potholes and massive problems on the road.
	Look at this.
	Watch this thing.
	Now, of course, it's even self-driving here, but it's determining where the pothole is.
	I had to remember where they were on my way to work.
	I would drive kind of like this, but I would swerve rather than jump over the potholes.
	So it's kind of like a cross between a Lamborghini and the General Lee.
	It should be playing Dixie when it goes over these.
	There's a bunch of spikes to take out the tires, and look at that.
	It jumps over it.
	Wow.
	What if they make that a little bit wider?
	Would it still jump over it?
	That's my question.
	And how does it do the jumping?
	Here it is going over an LGBT display.
	But it did kick up some dust on that, so it didn't make it all the way through.
	Well, you know, the government's got one job, to build infrastructure.
	It doesn't seem to want to do that either, does it?
	You know?
	Put out the fires, build the infrastructure, they don't care.
	Instead...
	They think that the one job is to tax us.
	And that's right.
	And that's what this is.
	It's congestion pricing.
	Done in the name of the environment, really, is where this all began with.
	Sadiq Khan in London and New York is right there.
	So it's pretty expensive.
	It's going to cost you like $9 to enter Manhattan weekdays during the day.
	During off time, you can get in there for the low, low rate of $2.25 just to go into Manhattan.
	I would pay 10 times that much, 100 times that much, not to have to go to Manhattan.
	Last time we were in Manhattan was when the UN was trying to push through the arms trade treaty right a week after they had staged the Aurora, Colorado shooting.
	I'm absolutely certain those two things were tied together because they had gotten so much pushback for this.
	Fast and Furious stuff and running guns across the border.
	And even the New York Times said that was a false flag to make a case for gun control domestically.
	We're going to have to register guns and all the rest of the stuff so that when it goes across the border, we can trace it back to where they got this thing from.
	And so that blew up in their face when a government agent got killed with some of these trafficked firearms.
	And so that really put a wrinkle in their arms trade treaty because it was all about controlling small arms.
	It was not about controlling tanks and things like that, which they're not going to do anything about that.
	They just wanted firearms.
	And so a week before, you had this very, very suspicious shooting in Aurora, Colorado.
	But anyway, we were there to cover it and to do interviews with gun manufacturers.
	We're there to speak against it and things like that.
	And it didn't pass, which is good news.
	But the problem was it was such a mess.
	I mean, Karen dropped me and my two sons off who were helping me set up interviews and cameras and lights and stuff like that on the street in front of the UN. And Karen just had to keep circling.
	In Manhattan.
	Couldn't find a place to park anywhere.
	What a mess that place is.
	I pay to stay out of there.
	Trump has vowed to kill the program when he takes office, but it's unclear whether he'll follow through.
	It's unclear whether he'll follow through with anything, quite frankly.
	I'm skeptical about anything that he promises here.
	The question is, does he have a jurisdiction?
	I don't know.
	When they give federal money, as they did to build the interstates, Then after that's done in the 50s by Eisenhower, Nixon, his vice president, becomes president.
	And 20 years later, he says, no, you're going to have to drive 55 miles an hour now because I say so.
	And because I'm going to take the money away from you if you don't do that.
	And of course, they were happy to comply because they could get traffic fines and tickets for people as well.
	Not only is this a massive tax for people coming in, it's extremely inconvenient from both driving and personal bookkeeping standards.
	It'll be virtually impossible for New York City to come back as long as this congestion tax is in effect.
	The toll was supposed to go into effect last year with a $15 change.
	But because last year was an election year, they decided they would wait to stick it to the people the next year.
	And they even say that.
	There's some lawsuits that are going on.
	New Jersey obviously is not very happy about this for the people who are going to be commuting.
	I can't even imagine commuting by car from New Jersey into New York.
	But anyway, the funds that they collect are not going to go to fixing potholes.
	No, you'll have to buy a supercar or hypercar in order to jump the potholes.
	The money will not go to fixing or even maintaining the roads, and certainly they can't make them any wider.
	They could make them higher.
	You know, Musk even got that right.
	You know, we started talking about his boring project.
	He said, we're building the, you know, the cities are getting more and more congested and they're going vertically.
	So we've got to go vertically with the road.
	His solution was to tunnel.
	Whereas everybody always knew this in all of the movies that you would have to have higher, you'd have to have multiple layers of roads if you're going to keep up with the population.
	But they don't want you driving at all in their cities.
	And so the money is going to go to the New York mass transit system that they control because they want you dependent on them.
	So it's going to be a big mess there.
	Meanwhile, in Ottawa, Ottawa has outlawed remote car starters.
	You know, I talked the last couple of days about the fact that Biden is out there banning electric water heaters.
	Well, Ottawa is banning...
	Remote car starters to try to heat up people's cars.
	You know, it's a very cold area there.
	And the city of Ottawa says we've got to do this in order to help reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
	Do they?
	Does it really make a difference?
	Listen to the temperatures that they've got in Ottawa.
	The Canadian capital, where average temperatures range from 15 degrees Fahrenheit in December, and then in January and February, it's 19 degrees Fahrenheit is the average temperature.
	And then, I'm sorry, 6 degrees.
	6 degrees Fahrenheit in January and February is the average temperature.
	It's 19 degrees in March.
	And in these unbelievably cold conditions, you know, 6 degrees Fahrenheit throughout January and February, minus 14 degrees centigrade.
	They have put new time limits on preheating your car.
	They will allow you one minute of idle time per hour.
	For unoccupied vehicles.
	If your car, do a remote start on your car, people would start up their remote car, start up their car remotely so the heater, the engine block can warm up, start to heat it up on the inside, but also so that they can get started on defrosting the windows.
	But no, not now.
	You're going to go out there in 6 degree weather and you're going to de-ice it by hand.
	This means using a remote starter to melt the ice off and warm the car up is now going to be forbidden.
	You have to get out there in six-degree weather and do it yourself.
	And we had to do it, as I said, because we've got a lower greenhouse gas emissions.
	Well, as this article on Zero Hedge says, the entire nation of Canada is responsible for only 1.6% of CO2 emissions.
	You can eliminate the entire energy footprint of every Canadian and still not make a difference.
	It's like, because we're talking about their paradigms, you know, regardless of what their paradigms are.
	Are we broadcasting?
	I see that the picture's gone.
	We're broadcasting, but I'm working on it.
	Okay, we're working on it.
	So, they didn't turn off our lights, so we...
	Even though if you're watching this broadcast, it has gone blank, so do not adjust your TV set.
	The problem is on our end somehow.
	It was something.
	We're working on getting that done, but meanwhile, if we got audio, and I guess that is still going out.
	All right, I'll continue with this.
	All of Canada, by their own weird fantasy, by their own paradigm, by their own MacGuffin, all of Canada is only 1.6%.
	Of CO2 emissions globally.
	And again, you know, CO2 emissions.
	CO2 is only 0.04% of the atmosphere.
	So, CO2 is not warming the atmosphere.
	And Canada is not warming the atmosphere.
	But again, China is going to build two new coal power plants every week.
	This is the Paris Climate Accord.
	The Paris Accord.
	It's looking more and more like some kind of a Jacobin Marxist scheme, isn't it?
	Because that's what it is.
	So, they also have another problem.
	One person said, for all the truckers who are listening, I know I've got a lot of truckers who listen to the program on a regular basis.
	When your DPF system on your diesel truck forces you to do a parked regen cycle, regeneration cycle, are you going to get a ticket?
	From bylaw enforcement, because you're stationary with the engine running for half an hour.
	And they explain what the DPF is.
	It's a diesel particulate filter.
	It's a system that diesel trucks use in order to reduce emissions.
	And they require periodic regeneration cycles where the engine has to run to burn off the accumulated suit.
	There we are.
	We're back.
	Okay, good.
	We got our visual back.
	We're back.
	To burn off accumulated soot, which can take it 30 minutes to burn that off.
	And, of course, you don't want to be trying to start your diesel engines in a six-degree Fahrenheit.
	You want to keep it running most of the time.
	Anyway, the city is also recommending that people call them to rat out their neighbors and their friends who might be ignoring the new bylaw.
	Yeah, it really is about communism.
	This is like the Stasi society.
	I've told a story before about the woman who, an American, who loved communism, really loved it.
	She wanted to move to East Germany.
	The East German people were suspicious of her, the Stasi, the police.
	And so, you know, as we all found out, they've got like half of East Germans were snitching on the other half of East Germans all the time.
	And she found out after everything collapsed and they started getting the diary, she found out that All of her friends and neighbors who were so kind to her were spying on her for the Stasi.
	This is what they're doing.
	You know, it's not a coincidence that the Greens and the Reds and the Communists are all working together.
	I've said many times that all this environmentalism is nothing more than just a watermelon philosophy where they have a thin veneer green on the outside and they're thoroughly red communist on the inside.
	Well, I see that we've now got our video back and we have Tony Arterman ready.
	We're going to talk to Tony.
	We also have another guest that's coming up in the last half hour of the show.
	He's going to talk about something that is happening that is insane in Washington State.
	But we're going to take a quick break and we're going to connect with Tony and we'll be right back to talk about what's happening with economics.
	Stay with us.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
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	And welcome, Tony.
	Good to have you on.
	Always good to see you, David.
	I just looked out my front door here, and it's snowing in North Texas.
	It's got a snowstorm coming.
	Wow.
	It makes you wonder how those warm waters down in the Gulf of America are right now.
	You know, I wonder if I can get down there and just be on vacation.
	My dog, Beans, jumped up in my lap because it's actually pretty windy, and it's supposed to...
	Supposed to be a lot of snowfall and more than we usually get in the wintertime here in the next day or so.
	Well, hopefully your power grid's going to hang in there this time.
	I hope so.
	I remember when that happened and we were in Texas.
	We wound up doing a show by candlelight.
	I remember that.
	And cell phone.
	I remember.
	The second day we did it.
	As it warmed up, we realized that a pipe had burst in our kitchen, and so we had Whistler holding the camera there, and Travis and Karen were mopping, and I'm trying to do this, and it was pretty crazy.
	But hopefully that won't happen this time.
	But we've got a lot of things to talk about.
	I mean, we just had the Federal Reserve's Open Market Committee, and the headline says that almost all, quote, almost all federal Fed members see higher inflation coming.
	What about that?
	And they think it's because of Trump.
	What's that?
	It reminds me of the Carson, the Karnak trick where you'd hold the envelope up to his forehead.
	Because it's funny, like, we're going to see some inflation.
	They're like, by the way, we're going to cut rates.
	You know, like, well, of course.
	And they're talking about around June or so of 2025 here and cutting rates.
	This is, again, transitory.
	Remember, it was transitory.
	Both Janet Yellen and Jerome Powell said that inflation was transitory.
	And then they said, no, we're going to do something.
	We're very hawkish.
	We're going to roll it back.
	It's going to be tamed.
	And then they just figured out they couldn't do it anyway, even with raising interest rates faster than any time in history.
	Any other Fed chair did, Jerome Powell.
	And we saw the effects on that economy started to stall.
	What do they do?
	Because we're built on debt.
	We're built on...
	Cheap fiat currency, and there's no way out.
	They're going to have to inflate their way out of every issue.
	It's why it's so silly, you know, the mainstream headlines and talking about earnings and other things.
	Until we get a grip on, you know, what causes inflation and the devaluation of our currency, then none of these economic issues are going to be solved.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, we know, and they know, but they're not going to do anything about it.
	And you talk about how fast you raise interest rates.
	I'll never forget, you know, back at the beginning of this fourth turning, 2007-2008, you know, when he starts, they'd had really low rates for a very long time, and then they start raising him a quarter, like every month, you know, just like a stair step, until they got high enough that they helped to cause the bubble to burst.
	And then this time around, he doesn't do it a quarter each time.
	He's doing it three quarters each time.
	Three quarters of a point each time.
	So 75 basis points.
	Yeah, who would have thought that this type of thing would happen?
	And yet, as they're looking forward, they're also saying that they're talking about inflation.
	As we look at these interest rates, though, it's interesting how, as they keep dropping the interest rates, The long-term bond market believes that there's going to be a lot of inflation, and so they keep raising the rates.
	And that's one of the reasons why the home mortgage rates are going up, even as these guys are cutting the rates.
	It's because in the marketplace where people are buying the bonds, that's where they're bidding the stuff up, because they're not buying it either.
	It's just a lie.
	And so as they keep pretending that inflation is not a problem, the market says otherwise, and that's why you keep seeing the home mortgage rates go up.
	Yeah, and it may be cheaper for the banks to borrow and go directly to the Fed, but they don't want to pass that on to consumers because they don't believe in the strength of the economy.
	That's exactly what they're signaling.
	They don't believe in the strength of the borrowers to pay back those loans, and they're going to make money.
	That's what they're going to do.
	They have the cash.
	They have the funds.
	They're going to hoard it, just like they did after 2009. The TARP bailouts and Hank Paulson begging Nancy Pelosi.
	It seems quaint now, but it was supposed to be like the 700 billion that they needed to cover the shortfall through the Treasury.
	And now we just look at that.
	And I was telling you off air that Janet Yellen is saying that she thinks that the covid stimulus may have had an impact on inflation.
	Only the best minds, David and Arrow, where when we look, when we make 2009 look tame and a bygone era, you know, when they bailed out for the Great Recession.
	Now we just do that again.
	It's it's true.
	It's a trillion in debt every hundred days.
	And I think you and I even calculated one of the last quarter of 2024, it was like...
	Every 90 days, it was like $2.3 trillion or something like that.
	Yeah, it's accelerating.
	It's accelerating.
	It's going up exponentially.
	So, yeah, maybe when we were talking about that, I joked and I said, well, maybe she had some revelation when she was on mushrooms.
	Famously doing that in China.
	And then coming out and bowing incessantly, you know?
	Yeah, we got the, what is it?
	The term was not kleptocracy, which is ruled by thieves, but we have a cockistocracy, which is ruled by the worst people that you could possibly have.
	And Janet Yellen has to have her picture right there in the dictionary next to cockistocracy.
	And Biden.
	Only the best minds, David.
	People like Janet Yellen really show you that they're not in charge.
	There's no way that they could run something as complicated as the U.S. Treasury.
	Or maybe it's like a plant to make sure that she runs it the way, kind of like a mobster would pick a real estate agent or something to run the casino.
	Maybe that's what Trump did.
	I'm trying to figure out how he managed to bankrupt so many different casinos when he's almost got a license to print money, you know, but maybe he hired a real estate agent to run it.
	I know he hired a real estate agent to try to get that house that he wanted a parking lot for.
	Straight out of up.
	You know, he had some widow who had a home and he wanted to buy.
	She didn't want to sell it.
	And so he went to the local government and got them to condemn it, take her home and everything.
	And then he declared bankruptcy and shut his casino down anyway.
	But let's talk about gold because we see that China's demand is going up in gold.
	And the headline is gold gains on technical buying as well as China demand.
	And, of course, the technical buying is going to be things that are...
	We'll be looking at what's going to happen with inflation and other issues like that, right?
	Well, absolutely.
	And, you know, there's something interesting about China.
	They bought the dip.
	Whatever they're running, their calculations, these are long-term.
	It's something China's been doing since the beginning of this century and buying off the books.
	And you had to wonder about that.
	They're not open about their gold buying.
	I remember stories that would pop up in the last 36 months where...
	You know, there'd be some giant gold purchase, and then somebody would sleuth and find that, you know, it's a subsidiary of the Chinese government that's buying this gold.
	So they didn't want the world to know what they were doing.
	I think there will be a big reveal eventually, and they'll just say, we have more gold in the U.S. I think that they actually do.
	I mean, I've seen research from, you know, journalists over at Kitco speculating that China has close to 16,000 tons of gold, because they've been buying literally since, Really just calculating where the trade deficits were going and what was happening with the U.S. manufacturing base.
	And they slipped in at the end of the 20th century.
	They got that deal from George W. Bush with most favored trading status for the WTO on December 11, 2001, 90 days after 9-11.
	And since then, 55,000 factories were gone within five years, one in three manufacturing jobs.
	Those were gone.
	So again, they had to go somewhere.
	People were funny about trade deficits.
	Well, it's not in a vacuum.
	It has to go somewhere if there's a deficit.
	And the surplus went to China.
	So in my estimation, I think these articles are going to continue to come out where you see China as the leader in the gold business and gold buying.
	They have 60,000 gold mines.
	This is worth examining.
	And what happens?
	If the U.S. starts to try to be ham-fisted about its trade policies, like with Trump talking about 100% tariffs on countries that don't use king dollar, what happens when the Chinese say, well, actually, we have, you know, when gold remonetizes, we have the gold reserves.
	You know, it used to be the U.S. with 8,000 and a half tons or whatever it is.
	I don't necessarily believe it anymore.
	We haven't had an audit.
	Since the 50s.
	So that is an open question, I think.
	I think Goldfinger got it all.
	Goldfinger, that was when everybody talked about all the gold being in Fort Knox.
	But is there any gold in Fort Knox?
	Who knows?
	Definitely.
	We have Bond villains at Davos, for sure.
	One of them's got it.
	That's right.
	Well, you said that China buys the dips.
	They bought 10 tons of gold in December.
	Because, you know, everybody else is so excited about Trump.
	That's why we put that in that commercial, Yukon Cornelius, you know?
	While Trump euphoria has got everybody saying, well, we're going to get crypto.
	We're not going to get gold.
	Well, China went to the gold and bought that dip.
	Well, absolutely.
	I did, too.
	You know, we bought it for Wolfpack.
	I see that, again, the fundamentals are all still there.
	What drove the price of gold to record highs?
	I mean, we forget.
	Gold broke its all-time high, like, what was it, like 30 times or something in 2024?
	And before that, it was gaps of years and years.
	I mean, 2011 to 2020. There was no ATH, no all-time high for gold.
	But in 2024, like 30-something times.
	And it was happening weekly.
	I could come on the show here and we talk about it.
	I know.
	So we already knew that that was going to continue.
	The fundamentals of nothing really changes with the election, except for some proposed crypto deregulation or being crypto-friendly for Bitcoin, which has driven the price of Bitcoin.
	And we'll see what happens there.
	I mean, we were talking off-air about the...
	Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, maybe not going forward or losing momentum or steam, or is Trump going to back out on that?
	That's an open question.
	He was really supported by the Bitcoin community and those in the crypto space, so we'll see.
	I mean, I've lived through the Trump presidency.
	I remember things.
	I know I'm not supposed to.
	The United States of Amnesia.
	I try not to join that crowd.
	But I remember, you know, 2017 to 2021 and what policies came out of that.
	So I'm skeptical.
	I'm just going to continue to do what I do regardless of the politics because I know that we live in a world of fiat and fake and debt.
	The world is completely over leveraged.
	I mean, corporate bankruptcies.
	I mean, massively this year.
	The corporate debt is staggering.
	And then, of course, the government debt is absolutely out of control.
	So none of those things are going to be fixed.
	And I know that.
	And that means that commodities and things with finite resources will win the day.
	And it's not just America.
	It's countries all over the world that are getting huge leverage of debt.
	It's corporations.
	It's consumers.
	Everybody's going into debt.
	But yeah, I like that.
	We should talk about MAGA being make amnesia great again.
	That's the whole secret of success for Trump is to make amnesia great.
	And they're going to do it again.
	And that's where we are right now.
	The Atlantic had an article talking about the great crypto crash.
	And they said Trump is going to usher in a speculative frenzy.
	And that's the thing, you know, regardless of the fundamentals of gold or Bitcoin or the economy or anything else like that, I get concerned when I see frenzies.
	You know, because frenzies always wind up creating bubbles and bubbles always burst at some point or the other.
	And that's the key thing, you know, even when you look at AI. And the stocks around that, because AI stocks were driving the stock market this last year, you get ahead of expectations in a frenzy.
	And sooner or later, somebody...
	It says, wait a minute, this can't possibly work out with this kind of optimism, and a few people start to leave the exits, and then again, because we're talking about a mass psychology, everybody starts running for the exits then, you know?
	And we saw that with a dot-com burst.
	I mean, certainly the internet was a real thing, and it was going to be there.
	So we could see that with AI. We could see that with the crypto optimism.
	There's a lot of deregulation that's going to happen.
	Quick whiplash from Biden, who was doing everything he could to either outright prohibit it or regulate it into oblivion.
	And you go from that to somebody who is talking about maybe even making it part of the reserve.
	Don't think that's going to happen.
	But, you know, this kind of whiplash that is there has really created a lot of market frenzy, hasn't it?
	It has, and that is concerning.
	I like steady.
	The bubbles and the frenzy and the euphoria of all that, and there's a lot of hype, and that's where you get the pump and dump.
	The economy, everything's fake.
	I mean, it stems back from our currency, and that's the argument I have every week, every time I come on my show, and I'm just going to be talking about that.
	You look at the metrics of...
	Yeah, fart coin, David.
	The ultimate bubble, right?
	The ultimate, I mean, this is, and what does that even mean?
	Like, what are these meme coins and other things?
	And what it leads to, in my estimation, this could be the way that I look at the world is probably very similar to you.
	I look at these banksters, they want ultimate control, they want CBDC. They've got this competing thing like Bitcoin.
	They've got decentralization in the market.
	Well, you know, do you invite it to the party?
	Do you, you know, throw it off the balcony?
	That's what I think is happening with crypto, is that they're going to inflate this thing so massive, get everybody involved, and then crash it.
	And then that would call for regulation and see what that wouldn't have happened if we had a centrally...
	We like digital currency.
	We love the convenience of that, but you just need to give your biometrics over and it needs to be state controlled.
	And, you know, the centralization is the key and regulation is the key and not these things that led to so many bankruptcies and failures and other things.
	That's what I get concerned with.
	And the number, that's what in the crypto space you always hear about.
	You know, number go up.
	And I don't think that's always the best outcome.
	You know, I think steady as she goes and building equity and building networks.
	And that's I think a lot of people in the Bitcoin space want to build the Bitcoin network.
	And that's certainly me.
	You know, I'm Bitcoin center.
	Like we're building and we should have the site live here within the next month.
	For Wise Wolf Bitcoin, and it's going to be Bitcoin only.
	I mean, it's just you can use Bitcoin to buy and sell with us, or you can buy precious metals with us.
	It's very symbiotic what we're building, and that's based off the Bitcoin network.
	But I get really concerned.
	Like, I don't own these meme coins, and I'm not pushing.
	If you see me pushing a mean coin, folks, I've been hijacked.
	Something's wrong.
	It's not Tony, so I'm not going to be doing that.
	It's AI. Somebody hijacked me.
	It's AI. Be cautious.
	It's not me.
	It's irresponsible.
	And you see what happens, because I don't see any value in it.
	You can make, by the way, you can make a fortune in it, but you've got to ride the wave.
	But that's not business.
	To me, that's gambling.
	Like a lot of the stock market, it really is just speculation.
	It's a casino.
	I'm very skeptical of things like that, especially in this era, but that's where we are.
	There's so much fake floating around.
	The pain really hasn't hit, but I believe that we're just around the corner.
	It just takes a little push into some uncertainty, and you'll start seeing that what's going to win the day, again, it's who holds the keys to the commodities.
	I saw an article earlier today doing some research, and there's a lot of analysts that are concerned about if Trump goes through with some of these tariffs, what it's going to do.
	To the price of metals and especially things like silver, they're clearing out the vaults right now around the world and a lot of these companies and large holders of silver and gold are bringing them home to the United States and housing them because if gold and silver are treated as a commodity and not money by these tariffs, it throws off everything and it creates Like a devaulting, where all over the world they start clearing out these vaults.
	There's going to be so much unintended consequences from just, I mean, again, nobody's ever done that, where we've punished other countries for not using our currency outright with tariffs like that.
	That would not be, and I'm...
	Somebody who's a proponent of tariffs because of economic nationalism, but that's not what this is, what he's proposing.
	Yeah, it's very much, you know, he's weaponizing our financial system against other people, is what he's doing.
	Same thing that Biden did, except that, you know, they basically have both, they're going to destroy our financial system by weaponizing it, but they have different ways of doing it.
	You know, Biden's going to do it with sanctions, punitive sanctions.
	He's going to do it with punitive tariffs.
	Same thing.
	And when you take a situation as shaky as the world economy is, regardless of where you look at it, I mean, China is not solid either.
	I played a clip last week.
	A lot of individual Chinese, and I don't know what happened to their social credit score when they posted this stuff up, but they were showing pictures of empty trains, pictures of empty cities, pictures of empty shopping malls, and of course...
	I've seen pictures of these McMansions that the Chinese built, these entire very elaborate expensive homes, never occupied.
	And so it is kind of a Potemkin economy in many regards.
	And if Trump throws in these kind of punitive tariffs, it's going to be like throwing a bomb into a crowded theater here.
	Who knows what's going to happen and who's going to get killed with this kind of stuff.
	But I think he's really going to do it.
	He's an agent of chaos.
	And boy...
	He puts in massive tariffs, and even if he doesn't do it, even if he just uses it as a threat, That's not going to be good for our economy, because people are tired of being threatened by the U.S. government.
	We've done that.
	Biden does it.
	Trump does it.
	They all do it.
	They're the bad boy in town, and we can use military force to take Panama if we want, and there's nothing that you can do or say about it.
	That's what we've seen these guys operate for the longest time.
	Arthur Hayes was saying that unexpected decisions from Trump Or from the Bank of Japan or China's economic policies, any of this kind of stuff.
	He says any of these things could trigger this.
	And he thinks in addition to that, tax deadlines that are coming up in April, a lot of people perhaps are going to, you know, we've seen the kind of headwinds that the tax season has on crypto.
	So he's thinking that it's going to hit the crypto just in general, not just Bitcoin, but all of them.
	Hit their peak in March of 2025. So he's pretty specific in terms of his bearishness.
	I think that will most likely turn out to be true, just based off of my own analysis, because, again, I'm buying Bitcoin for inventory.
	But I expect the price to draw back.
	I think we probably will end 2025 over where we are right now.
	I think it'll be a decent year.
	But these overzealous, I think they're just way out of front of what Bitcoin price is going to be.
	And again, if you look at the other markets, they follow Bitcoin.
	So if Bitcoin's not really moving, these other things are going to go stagnant.
	And the meme coin space and all the stuff that doesn't serve a function, We'll start to implode.
	It's like the dot-com era, you know, the same thing.
	Dot-com overbuilt, and there were so many, you know, everything was going to be, you know, 100x and times earnings and all this stuff, and it was crazy.
	I remember my dad talking to me about it.
	I was a kid, you know, but right before I went into the military, we were just discussing what the stock market was and why he didn't own stocks.
	You know, multiple businesses.
	He's like, they're overvalued.
	And certainly that's true today.
	And it took down even companies like Cisco and Intel.
	It wasn't just pet.com, you know.
	It wasn't just some retail.
	You know, pretty much most of these retail.com things that people have bet so much money on.
	It's kind of like the meme coins today.
	And about the only one that really survived was Amazon.
	And what's the latest from Earthlink?
	You know, like, what's the latest from Amazon?
	I mean, or not Amazon, but AOL, you know, I mean, Time Warner, you know, WorldCom, they had all these things that were fused together at that time, and they're just not household names anymore, and they lost massive market share.
	They just, you know, they had their time, and it wasn't what fit.
	I think that will be what's sorted out here with the crypto.
	I still believe in the space, but I think, you know, you...
	So many things are about number go up.
	And it's not about fundamentals or about what makes the coin usable, valuable.
	And I think the only thing that really serves any purpose right now, aside from possibly XRP or Ethereum, which I still don't own any of it, is Bitcoin.
	Yeah.
	You mentioned Earthlink.
	I was so disappointed to lose my email address that I had at Earthlink.
	I put in DK at Earthlink, but I spelled it out D-E-C-A-Y, at Earthlink.
	That went away?
	I've got a question for you from Coalimo.
	It says, Tony, talking about insurance in California today, what companies insure gold and silver bullion at home?
	A bank deposit box or at a private deposit box?
	Are these policies worth it?
	Well, I use the Hartford is what I use for insurance.
	You can look into that.
	But if you're storing your gold and silver, I mean, look at some reputable places.
	I know Andy Sheckman over at Miles Franklin.
	I've talked to him, and he's got a really good storage program with Brinks.
	So you've got to have a strong name whenever you're putting it anywhere.
	And, of course, we'd have...
	Through the trading floor in Dallas, through Dylan Gage, we have our storage with IDS and others for your IRAs, and those are insured massively.
	But if you're in private hands, again, you want to just really be cautious about that.
	They'll probably have some suggestions wherever you're storing it on the insurance, but I use the Hartford.
	They've been decently transparent.
	And that's like an extra rider that you put on your homeowner policy?
	Yes.
	I use that for business and I've I've got land in Arkansas and my house here in Texas.
	So it's kind of a universal policy that covers businesses and inventory and things.
	And they know, they're very aware of, like, you know, what I hold.
	So that's what I use as the heart for.
	Yeah, and it's the kind of thing that, you know, if you've got anything that's got a lot of concentrated value, you need to have that.
	Make sure the insurance company is aware of that.
	And that is, you know, you declare that and make sure that they have insured that as well anytime you've got something of value.
	What's going on at Wise Wolf?
	You said you got the Bitcoin exchange that you're working on.
	It's coming up soon, right?
	What else?
	As fast as I can.
	Working on that.
	And we should be live.
	By the time we do our show next week, David, I should be live where you can use Bitcoin to buy gold and silver through me online with no fee.
	And we're the only broker in America that does that.
	It'll be no transactional fee whatsoever.
	You just pay for the price of the metals.
	It'll be like cash.
	And if you're doing that, if you have a credit card, you have to pay a fee because we have to absorb that.
	But I've made it to where Bitcoin's pretty symbiotic with us.
	And we'll be doing some press releases, so we're really excited about that.
	That's been a network I had to build in, and it's not as easy as it looks.
	So the shopping cart will all be set up for Wolfpack.
	You'll be able to do one-time purchases, and then we're going to add some other aspects to that site.
	So you can just, you know, if you want to do a blanket amount or something of gold and silver, and we buy it for you or whatever, we have so many programs rolling out, but it's going to be a symbiotic.
	A relationship between Bitcoin and gold and silver with no fee.
	So we're looking forward to that.
	So you can move back and forth between Bitcoin and gold without a fee.
	That's cool.
	Yes.
	Yeah, you can get into precious metals no fee when you shop through us, which will be, again, nobody else does that.
	And we're glad that we're the first.
	Well, that's really good.
	So, yeah, people are concerned about something crashing.
	Let's wait for them to...
	Switch it into something else coming up.
	So that's great.
	And we can talk about the details of that and more about that next week when you come back on.
	Anything else going on at Wise Wolf?
	That's a big deal.
	And I know that's a lot of work to get all that stuff together, especially because all those regulations are still there.
	Oh, it's still there.
	I brought up mine.
	My little brother.
	He's not little.
	I call him my little brother.
	I brought my brother in to help me.
	And he ran a fairly large Bitcoin ATM business that we started together.
	But he took it and ran with it for many years and sold it within the last couple of years.
	So he knows where everybody is and who to talk with on regulation and banking.
	So I just brought him in.
	We're going to fuse the two things together, which I think, you know, even with what we discussed with the crypto space, I think it's going to be volatile.
	But I'm betting that, you know, again, that the free market or innovation and the entrepreneurs still drive civilization.
	So I'm still optimistic there that those things will go together.
	And then, of course, the precious metals, David, I mean.
	I still think we're massively undervalued.
	Most analysts are looking at rising gold and silver prices, and I know that they will because you have the Fed meeting in there.
	Talking about inflation, and they don't know where it's coming from, but they're going to lower rates, and I'm just thinking, okay.
	Janet Yellen is thinking maybe that the COVID stimulus had something to do with it.
	So I'm still betting on precious metals and finite.
	Well, even when you look at some of the big banks and their analysts are saying, well, maybe not, you know, a lot of them were saying 3,000 by January, whatever, for gold.
	Now they're saying, well, maybe by the end of the year, whatever.
	But that's still a pretty big increase.
	Going from, what is it now, about $2,600-something to $3,000?
	You're not going to make anything at all like that in a savings account.
	They pay zero, like 0.1% interest or something like that.
	After January 20th, after the inaugurate, I think you'll just start seeing rising precious metals prices.
	And the reason is because there's going to be a massive amount of spending.
	You and I both know this.
	It's going to be a spending spree.
	The likes of which we've probably never seen before.
	There's going to be a lot, because that's what the previous Trump administration was all about, the stock market and just inflating that.
	And if you recall, Venezuela, they had a booming stock market too while their currency was dying.
	And it won't be like that necessarily in the U.S. Trump loves a weaker dollar.
	He wants that.
	It can be good to fuel a lot of things in the short term, but we both know what that does to the price of commodities.
	It's going to drive that, and that's what those analysts are predicting.
	I think they're right.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I think people are going to be...
	It's going to...
	Whether or not the make-amnesia-greater-kind crowd gets it or not, the other people are going to get it, and it's going to have real effect when the rosy scenario that...
	That people are expecting from Trump doesn't happen, and I seriously don't think it is.
	But it's great, the entrepreneurism that you do in terms of not just what you're planning on doing with Bitcoin and gold and going back and forth, but also with Wolfpack.
	And so, again, that's something unique that nobody else does that you've done and kept that up for quite some time.
	So it's great, and you've got a program that is coming up right after this.
	Tell everybody where they can find Noon Eastern, 11 Central, Arterburn Radio Transmission, once a week.
	This is episode 495, so join us today.
	I'm on the quest for 500. We're broadcasting over WWCR. Got that contract renewed.
	I'm off all traditional talk radio now, David.
	I just decided I'd outgrown it.
	It's not for me anymore.
	It seemed like a game.
	A lot of the content is just silly to me at this point.
	We've moved past that.
	I've put away childish things, so I'm not doing that anymore.
	But you can find me on X at Tony Arterburn and on Rockfin, on the America Unplugged channel, and on Rumble.
	So join us over there, Watson.
	Solid hour.
	Let's see what I can come up with.
	We've got some stuff to talk about.
	That's great.
	And people can always get to, Tony, it's easy to remember if you're a watcher of this program, davidknight.gold.
	Tony set that up.
	Take you to him.
	Let him know that you came to us.
	And he can help you get set up with Wolfpack.
	That's a great way to accumulate gradually, to accumulate gold and silver as kind of a savings program.
	Remember when Americans used to save?
	Well, you can still do that.
	That's still up to you.
	Thank you so much for joining us, Tony.
	Always great talking to you.
	Thank you for...
	Thank you, David.
	Appreciate it.
	All right, folks.
	We're going to be right back.
	Stay with us.
	Stay with us.
	Stay with us.
	They were actually sent to me before Christmas.
	And when Christmas hit, we were trying to catch up.
	And then we just, things are so busy around here, we just turned everything off and just relaxed and took a break.
	And so I want to get back to some of these.
	This is from Dusty.
	I thought this was very unusual.
	Selling you sunlight.
	This is a company.
	It's called Reflect Orbital.
	And they're talking about putting mirrors in space, and they will sell you sunlight at night so you can keep your solar power going around the clock.
	Well, of course, that's not really going to be targeted, I guess, to an individual.
	But it will be targeted, I think, to these solar farms.
	Something they're going to do.
	I guess that's something we can all...
	Look forward to.
	And that is going to be looking up into the sky and seeing nothing but tens of thousands of Elon Musk's star links.
	And now we're going to have these things reflecting light all around the clock.
	It'll be like we all live at the pole or something.
	Except you don't get six months of darkness.
	You never get any darkness that's there.
	And then I wanted to thank, and he just put his name there as Kay, and I haven't responded to you yet.
	I just wanted to thank you for all the great ideas that he had about social networking, about how we could do customer relations better, different organizations or programs or websites that are out there that help you with customer relations because we're just...
	Totally subscribe to this show, and it's taking up all my time.
	And this one thing I feel really bad about is not connecting more with customers.
	So maybe we can do a better job of that coming up.
	And I just wanted to say, you know, he took it on himself to send this here, and we're looking at how we can...
	Fix the website and get into some other social media platforms.
	For the love of the road, it's gotten us on to Telegram.
	But we need to do more with Substack and other things like that.
	If you've got some ideas for some of these things, and he gave us some great ideas on how to save money, you know, free alternatives to Zoom and some other things like that.
	If you've got any ideas, please pass them on to us.
	What he said at the end of it, he said, it's been interesting to see how you get banned on so many different platforms.
	Makes me dig deeper to find real solutions for you and your families.
	I appreciate that.
	So it's time to pull in all your favors and your supporters' knowledge.
	To get up and going in 2025. Time to build your own Noah's Ark in terms of the media.
	And he's absolutely right.
	So we're going to hope that we can get this done.
	And we certainly would appreciate any suggestions that you've got.
	And as I said, we struggle with the customer relations.
	If we don't get back to you here, this was an email that he sent December the 22nd.
	So it's taken us a while to address that.
	This is also...
	Something that was sent at that point in time.
	I thought it was very interesting.
	This was sent by Gary.
	And he said, a long-time listener, since about 2016, he said, I'm writing to you about a company called Sharkfen that may be tied to DARPA. And he said, maybe you can do some more research on this.
	But he did quite a bit of research on it.
	He said the U.S. company, Sharkfen, was a startup in 2020 that manufactures dog collars and harnesses.
	With a focus on animal to human to AI robot interface.
	Now, that's interesting.
	You know, I'm not about to put a brain-computer interface into my body.
	But if I were ever to do something like that, it would be so that I could figure out what was on my Border Collie's mind.
	The smartest dogs I've ever had.
	And I would really like to know what he's thinking sometimes, although I think I've got a pretty good clue from body language that he's doing.
	I mean, he gets obsessed whenever it's raining.
	He gets obsessed with the raindrops.
	you can stay outside all day chasing raindrops that are dripping off the corner of the roof uh but this is um and we know that darpa has been uh heavily focused on uh the brain uh Obama, going back into about the middle of his administration, he had the BRAIN project, which I forget what the acronym was.
	But they spent a couple hundred million dollars on it in just one year.
	I mean, a huge amount of money being put into brain-computer interfaces, but also how they can read our minds, and how DARPA, you know, because it's defense, supposedly defense, it's not really.
	DARPA is at war with us.
	But DARPA said, well, we've got troops who have PTSD, so we would like to be able to selectively erase troublesome memories or things like that, replace them, you know, like total recall, that type of thing.
	And I said, yeah, right, that's kind of like saying we need these autonomous killer robots to help little old ladies go across the street.
	Patently absurd.
	But that's where they have been.
	They've been in that space for quite some time.
	And it's not just Elon Musk doing the brain-computer interface.
	There's a lot of different companies, unfortunately, that are working on that all the time.
	They can always make a great case and say, well, we've got people who are paralyzed and we want to...
	Yes, certainly.
	But we know that just like artificial intelligence, you know, it's not going to be fundamentally about that.
	That's the way that they're going to sell it to people.
	That's going to be their...
	Part of his research, he's got Shark Fin's vision statement.
	Listen to this.
	We envision a future where the connection between animals and humans is strengthened with the integration of AI and hardware technology.
	This entails equipping animals with specialized gear and utilizing sentient being communication devices.
	That's trademarked.
	Sentient being communication devices, a trademark for that term.
	And so, they said that they'll establish a communication bridge between animals and humans, leveraging the capabilities of cloud computing as well as direct connections through Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
	Additionally, both humans and animals will engage in communication with humanoid robots, facilitated by these diverse devices.
	You know, something like this.
	Did that dog just say hi there?
	Oh, yes.
	My name is Doug.
	I have just met you, and I love you.
	My master made me this collar.
	He is a good and smart master, and he made me this collar so that I may talk.
	Squirrel!
	That was for mop.
	While the immediate focus centers on dogs and cats, They envision expanding their impact to encompass a broader spectrum of creatures in the times ahead.
	They're going to go full Dr. Doolittle.
	That's DARPA Doolittle.
	If I could talk to the animals, right?
	Speaking chimpanzee, the shark fin collar has a shark fin shape to it that houses the electronics.
	From the sound of their mission statement, writes Gary, And the vision that they want to use animals for surveillance and control of people.
	And who knows what else?
	Sounds very much like DARPA and their BrainGate stuff.
	That's everything the government does.
	It's about spying on us, lying to us, controlling us.
	We know where all of these things are going to go.
	And it is really concerning how this is all expanding.
	And how they're using our money to set up systems of enslavement.
	Open-air prisons and that type of thing.
	But again, if you are a Christian, you don't need to fear that.
	We can transcend that.
	We have other weapons that are mighty, and God is going to be the one who has a last say on all of this stuff.
	Maybe, he says, at some point, you can look further into this, and I will look into this, but it's yet another one of these things that never ends.
	Absolutely never ends.
	We're going to have a guest who's going to join us and talk about some of the crazy environmental things that are happening in Washington State.
	It's going to be a shorter interview.
	It's going to join us in about another 15 minutes or so.
	But I'm going to take a quick break, and then we're going to come back.
	I want to give you a little bit of information about what I think is really up in Greenland.
	Some of the ulterior motives that Trump may have there.
	It was something that was sent to me by Goatree, and I thought he was spot on.
	So we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	Maybe it should be the Gulf of Amnesia now, because maybe he just wants people to forget about the other stuff that he's doing.
	But Marjorie Taylor Greene has now penned a bill to rename the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America.
	Now we all have to figure out how we're going to get everybody else to use that term.
	So, this is his top priority.
	And it's her top priority, of course.
	Everybody in politics, whether they're in Washington or whether they're in Ottawa, the Canadian capital, they've all got to suck up to Donald Trump.
	It's amazing.
	And so, this is, I think, a distraction from real problems.
	Listen to the way that she introduces this.
	She says, Mexican cartels currently use the Gulf of Mexico for trafficking humans, drugs, and weapons.
	And who knows what else?
	Well, the Mexican government allows them to do it.
	The American people are footing the bill to protect and secure the maritime.
	So we need to change the name to the Gulf of America, and that should fix it all, right?
	How is that going to change any of this stuff?
	It's not going to change anything to call it the Gulf of America.
	But as I said, Goatree sent this to me.
	He said, you know, everybody's talking about what Trump is up to in Greenland.
	And of course, we have, oh, it's national security.
	We've got a military bases there.
	And, you know, we can have arrangements to buy minerals that are there and other things like that as well.
	But, you know, why do we have to take them over?
	I had another friend who contacted me and said, you know, if you...
	If you were to bring in Canada, for example, you look at the population and, you know, what is going to happen with Canada, which is mostly left-wing.
	It would be like adding another California or a couple of Californias to the Electoral College thing.
	That's not going to happen, bringing in California.
	But we look at Greenland.
	They could easily bribe the people there in an election to want to...
	Be part of America.
	Goatree wrote this.
	He says, as the glaciers are pulling back, or even, I guess, as they're even doing more exploration and looking, he said they're finding insane amounts of oil, of rare earth minerals, of gold and silver, of uranium, and of gemstones kind of laying around unmolested, undisturbed, right there for the taking.
	He says, we're talking multi-trillions of dollars of assets there for the taking.
	He goes, here's a YouTube clip, he says, of some guys walking around, and they're finding just a little bit of this.
	I mean, it goes on.
	They find other things, too.
	But here they are finding rubies in Greenland.
	With the team back intact, they continue their hunt for rubies.
	It's not long before Josh spots something they haven't seen before in Greenland.
	I see in the wall on the canyon this huge area that looks to me like it's a mineralized zone.
	Eric!
	What you got?
	Take a look at this.
	Look at that.
	Is that greens in there?
	Copper?
	Wow.
	That is beautiful.
	Now we found a zone that is mineralized.
	It's the correct stone for rubies.
	It's pretty exciting.
	Definitely the first time we've seen it.
	This simple rock could be a turning point for the team.
	They know that this is the same type of mineral that the priceless 440-carat Katah ruby was founded.
	So they're hopeful that now is their chance to strike it rich.
	That's a little morale booster for everybody at home, huh?
	This is the stuff we want right here, Gator.
	Yeah, that's the stuff they want right there.
	Well, you know, when I was talking about the history of the military base there, you know, Germany, Nazi Germany, wanted cryolite, which was a key thing for aluminum smelting at the time.
	I don't know if that's still a thing or not.
	But the only known source of it at that point in time was in Greenland.
	They have a vast area.
	And there's going to be a lot of stuff that is up there.
	And maybe that's why there's so much talk.
	About making Canada the 51st state.
	This article from the Daily Mail, Trump hashes out a plan to make Canada the 51st state with other Republicans.
	We talked a lot about Canada becoming the 51st state, said Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, a Republican of Oklahoma, told reporters after they came out of the meeting.
	There's absolutely no way, like I said before, most especially with Trump as president, Most of the people in Canada are liberal.
	They don't like Trump.
	There's absolutely no way they're going to do that.
	And you can't force that.
	Now, he could invade, and we have done that before, Panama and go to war with Panama.
	He's not going to invade Canada, and I don't see any way that they're going to entice him.
	He could militarily invade Panama.
	He could bribe the 56,000 people that live in Greenland to have a referendum.
	But there's no way that Canada's going to be a part of the United States.
	And, of course, Doug Ford, who is Premier of the Canadian province of Ontario, Left-wing guy.
	He says, well, how about we buy Alaska?
	So you think you're going to buy Canada?
	Well, we'll buy Alaska, that type of thing.
	It is really crazy what is going back and forth.
	And as I said earlier, you know, the Canadian Conservative Party leader, Pierre Polyev, said in this headline here from Breitbart, Polyev walks a tightrope to be Canada first, And yet still not lose Trump.
	Well, you talk about being boxed in.
	When you've got to always please Trump, you can't say anything negative about Trump, even if it's true.
	That's not allowed.
	And as we talked about, a lot of people are saying, well, is this Trump pursuing the technocrats' dreams to create a technate?
	You know, the region one of the ten different regions.
	Who knows what is going on here?
	Really, they could get any of these mineral assets, if they wanted to, from Greenland.
	They would be open to doing that.
	And we have a military base that is there and have had that for quite some time.
	That hasn't really been a problem.
	So, unless you're looking at...
	Some kind of a massive natural resources exploitation, and perhaps that is what they're trying to do with Greenland, and maybe that's what they're trying to do with all the talk about Canada, is to play crazy and hope that people will go along with it.
	Who knows exactly what they're up to.
	Before our guest joins us, though, I wanted to cover this story, which I think is an analogy that I've made before.
	I said, you know, we don't allow children to drink alcohol.
	We don't allow children to smoke or to drive cars or to own firearms or all the rest of this stuff.
	And even tattoos.
	And a tattoo shop in Arizona tattooed a girl who's nine years old, and it got a lot of pushback on this.
	Now, she wanted a picture of Trump on her neck, and he talks about how he talked her out of it.
	Talked her parents out of it.
	But as I point out in this article, all 50 states have prohibitions of young children getting tattoos.
	You can't get a tattoo under the age of 18 in any state.
	Some states will allow minors to get a tattoo if their parents approve.
	But when you look at this, and again, part of this was that she wanted to get a Trump tattoo.
	So some of this pushback is going to be from people who are Trump haters, and they're angry about that.
	But a lot of people made the case that, you know, why would this guy even do it?
	He said, well, I redirected her away from a Trump tattoo, which she might very well regret.
	I said, well, why don't you do something patriotic?
	So he tattooed an American flag on her.
	But people are rightfully saying, that's not something you should be doing to a minor, even if the parents are along with that.
	The same thing applies, doesn't it, to mutilization and sterilization?
	Because those are permanent.
	A tattoo can be removed.
	I don't see anybody making that comparison.
	You can get a tattoo taken off, but you cannot undo mutilization, sterilization, those types of things.
	She had traveled to Arizona with her parents to get a Trump tattoo, but the artist who shared a video of him putting the tattoo on her said he convinced her to do a more patriotic tattoo on the American flag.
	He told her in a year, if she still wants Trump, then to get it, but to think about it, said the artist.
	She came back one year later.
	She said, I'm 10 now.
	Can you do this?
	He said she also changed her mind on the Trump portrait one year later.
	He said he even tried to scare her parents away by telling them that this tattoo, which you would normally charge $80 for, he said it would be $500.
	That didn't scare them away.
	The parents were okay with that.
	He said they jumped on the price instead.
	He said, so, I tried.
	And he puts it up on social media.
	Now, people jump in and said the story has sparked debate online about where the children should be tattooed.
	And if the artist should decline their request, even if it's not illegal, and even if the parents want it.
	Now, doesn't that apply to the transgender nonsense?
	He said, these are the same people crying over giving puberty blockers to kids, and I say no to both of them, said one person, and I agree.
	another person says as an artist be the bigger person and don't do this to a nine-year-old and then call child services about these parents i would certainly say that's the appropriate response absolutely the response over the gender mutilation and sterilization Instead of the government taking the side of these people, that would be one place where there would be a legitimate investigation.
	By the government, although Child Protective Services is so abusive and involved in trafficking, I would be reluctant to call them over anything, quite frankly, but if it's going to be over anything, it ought to be over some kind of sexual mutilation.
	The Alliance of Professional Tattooists jumped in on this as well.
	They said, if you see a 10-year-old child with a professional tattoo, and they say that they got it at a tattoo shop, that degrades all of us.
	We're going to take a quick break, and we're going to come back with Todd Myers, who's the Vice President for Research at the Washington Policy Center.
	So stay with us.
	This will be right back.
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	Welcome back.
	Joining us now is Todd Myers.
	We've talked to Todd before.
	He's with a think tank, a policy institute in Washington State.
	He's vice president for research at the Washington Policy Center, and this is in Washington State.
	Thank you for joining us, sir.
	Yeah, it's always nice to chat with you.
	Great to have you on.
	I saw your press release about what is happening in Washington State.
	With CO2 emissions, tell us a little bit about what is happening there in terms of their emissions actually going up, and I don't think that everything is melting there in Washington yet, is it?
	It's actually stilling outside my window right now, so...
	Even though the CO2 emissions went up.
	So tell us what's happening in Washington, Washington State, with their measuring of emissions.
	Ten-year period, I guess.
	Nine-year period.
	2012 to 2021. So, for those not in Washington State are probably wondering, why do I care about Washington State's CO2 emissions?
	And the answer is that Washington and the West Coast has seen itself as a leader on climate change.
	You know, say, oh, here are the policies that we need to implement to reduce the risk from CO2 emissions and climate change.
	Our governor, Governor Inslee, actually ran for president, albeit briefly, in 2019 on the platform of addressing climate change.
	And his whole argument was that he was going to bring the policies that we've had in Washington State to the federal level to fight climate change.
	And we constantly call ourselves a leader.
	So across the country, these are the kinds of policies that are in Washington State that, you know, many, particularly on the left, want to implement.
	And what is notable is that they simply have failed to achieve their goal.
	A lot of focus is on the cost of the CO2 policies and climate change and things like that.
	But the simple fact is they don't work.
	And so Washington State this week released CO2 data through 2021. And so when you look at 2012, which was just before Governor Inslee took office, through 2021, the ninth year of his administration, CO2 emissions actually increased 5%.
	percent over that period of time.
	And that's after COVID.
	So, you know, considering that even COVID couldn't cause the emissions to go down, it's pretty remarkable.
	Wow.
	During that same time, the United States' CO2 emissions went down.
	And so the message for people who aren't in Washington state is these policies simply don't work.
	And if you care about CO2 emissions, if you care about the risk from climate change, don't do what Washington state has done.
	Look for more innovative ways that put people, not politicians, in charge.
	Yeah, and when we look at all this stuff in terms of CO2, we've got the Paris Climate Accord, which is hanging over everybody's head.
	China is putting in two coal power plants a week.
	And supposedly, it's not a problem if this stuff comes from China, but the same CO2, if it's emitted in the United States or in Europe or other places like that, oh, it's going to kill us all.
	To me, that is the key thing about this, and it's kind of interesting that even in some of the places where they have scrupulously tried to reduce CO2, it's actually gone up, and it hasn't been a catastrophe either, has it?
	Yeah, and I think that the challenge is that the exaggeration and sort of dishonesty has made it so that people simply write off.
	Climate change as an issue.
	There have been so much exaggeration about the impact, about the harm, and that sort of thing that people get very tired of it.
	We do know that CO2 does trap heat to some extent and there is some risk, but the problem is the exaggeration makes people sort of roll their eyes.
	And then when you see the policies that cost a lot, raise energy prices, make things more expensive, and then don't work, the natural reaction of people We should be doing anyway, right?
	So he said, you know, it's a good way to...
	To implement our ideology.
	And that's what you see in Washington State.
	But I think that for those on the center-right, like myself, we do need to recognize that there are things that we're doing to impact ecosystems, to wildlife and things like that.
	And if you look, and what I always point out to people is, look at a map.
	Look at where nature is and look at where conservative voters are.
	They are overlapped.
	Conservatives live surrounded by the environment because they love it and they want to be good stewards.
	But what the failure of Washington State shows is that top-down political policies fail and bottom-up efforts to save energy, to save money, too, are a much better way to be good stewards of the planet.
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	I talked this week about the classic case at the turn of the century.
	We're in big cities like New York or Seattle or London.
	They had so much horse manure and horse urine that were accumulating in the streets.
	And what saved that?
	Was it a government-designed program that dictated solutions to people?
	Or was it a free market where people got to try things?
	And, of course, you're talking about this from the standpoint of Washington State.
	And you said, how does this affect everybody else?
	It's the federalism that we have, the fact that different states can try different things.
	And the beauty of that is that we can see what works.
	But the beauty of it is we can also see what does not work.
	And I guess Washington State falls into the latter category.
	Tell us a little bit about some of these regulations.
	What have they done in Washington State in terms of forcing people to do this or that that hasn't really even accomplished their metric by their own paradigm?
	What kind of regulations have you been seeing there in Washington State over this 10-year period?
	Well, there's a few things, and I'll give you two examples.
	One, we have lots of building regulations that force buildings to be what are called green buildings.
	And in fact, years ago, we implemented a law that required all school buildings to meet what are called green building standards.
	And so I started looking at these green buildings and these green schools to see if they were in fact saving money.
	And what I found was that green schools that meet these standards Actually used more energy per square foot than the non-green schools in those same school districts for a variety of reasons.
	And you see this with buildings.
	There has been research that in Seattle, green buildings actually do worse than almost anywhere else.
	So one of the things was that these very restrictive building standards about what you had to build.
	Seattle and King County, where Seattle is, is one of the most expensive places to live in the United States.
	We have a housing shortage.
	We have very high prices.
	And it's because we've added a lot of these regulations, so-called green regulations, that have ended up failing.
	Let me give you one more example.
	The number one source of CO2 emissions in Washington state is transportation.
	So the governor and others have said, oh, well, what we need to do is to build a lot of electric vehicle charging stations.
	But many of those charging stations sit unused because where people tend to charge up is at home.
	And if they are out and they see a charging station, they will plug in.
	But they're not very useful in terms of actually keeping your vehicle charged.
	And, you know, if you're in the store, you don't get much of a charge while you're there.
	So it doesn't help, it doesn't do much to actually help reduce CO2 emissions or help people who have electric vehicles.
	And the result is we spend millions, tens of millions of dollars on electric vehicle charging stations that sit there and do nothing.
	That's just a waste of money.
	And so people focus on that as a waste of taxpayer dollars, which it certainly is.
	But it's also a waste of opportunity to do good things for the planet.
	There are lots of projects that we actually could do to, you know, make it energy more efficient.
	We're fighting, you know, I used to work with salmon recovery.
	We have very low populations of salmon.
	There's things we can do there.
	So if you waste money on useless EV charging stations rather than doing projects that help salmon, you are harming the environment by misallocating resources in addition to wasting taxpayer dollars.
	And, of course, what we're seeing with all this stuff is that they will come up with one solution, like an electric battery car, right?
	And they will subsidize that heavily.
	They will shut down any other competition.
	And even if it is something like another form of an electric car, let's say a fuel cell car or a hydrogen car, even if it's something that could also be zero emission, no, no, no.
	We've got this one solution, and you're going to do that.
	That's something that we see from the government.
	All the time.
	But I want to step back, and when you talk about the schools and how the ones that were green schools, and they gave them regulations about how they wanted to build them and that type of thing, what was it that caused, what types of things were they having these schools do that caused them to use more energy than other schools that didn't follow this green building regulation scheme?
	Yeah, people are always, when I mention that, they're always flabbergasted that you can make a green building and make it actually worse than the existing buildings.
	There are several things that they did.
	One is, and I never understood this, but they repeated it again and again, which is, they said, well, we're going to have big windows, because big windows allow in more light, and therefore you need fewer lighting fixtures, and that will save electricity.
	Well, LED light bulbs are extremely efficient, very low energy, put out a lot of light, and so there's just not very much energy to be saved by reducing that amount of light.
	However, Windows are not very efficient, right?
	They let a lot of heat in.
	They let a lot of, you know, cold in as well, right?
	During the summer, it's hot, or in the winter, it's cold.
	And so you have to constantly run the HVAC to keep that room a normal temperature.
	The other thing, and that more than offsets any, you know, energy savings you get from wind.
	The other thing that they do is they say, well, we want clean air.
	We want fresh air.
	So what they do is they have requirements to have to recirculate the air, to pull the old air out, put new air in.
	And what do you got to do?
	You've got to heat that.
	You've got to cool that, whatever.
	And so they're constantly running the HVACs.
	And so I talked with several facilities directors, not just in Washington State, but across the country where these were.
	And they just said...
	In order to build a green school, we would actually have to increase the size of the HVAC system to meet these new requirements.
	But I want to address your point about the one-size-fits-all.
	That's the fundamental problem with government programs, or I shouldn't say the fundamental, a fundamental problem.
	Which is that there is one size, and if it doesn't work, then you've lost time.
	We need a diversity of efforts.
	So, you know, I would be a horrible book author if I didn't mention my book, Time to Think Small, which focuses on exactly this issue, which is lots of small efforts and a diversity of efforts are better ways to find not only solutions that work, but solutions that fit people's lives.
	Rather than have government impose restrictions on people that make their lives more difficult, A diversity of solutions, especially with technology, allows them to find ways to save energy, save money, do things that fit their lifestyle, make their life better, while also making the planet better.
	And so I think that's the real key, is that we need a diversity of things.
	What I'm hoping is, is that, you know, during the upcoming Trump administration, rather than just simply saying all of these environmental, you know, this focus is ridiculous, to say we need a new approach.
	We need a diversified approach, federalism, local power, rather than top-down government power, to show that this way works better than the one-size-fits-all government approach.
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	When we're talking about federalism and the fact that, you know, we can see what works and what doesn't work based on different states and everything, and unfortunately, there's this...
	This idea that has taken hold in America across the political spectrum doesn't seem to me to matter whether people are on the left or the right, Republican, Democrat, everybody thinks that a solution needs to come from Washington.
	And one of the results of that is that we get this one-size-fits-all.
	We're going to have a dictated solution, and that's the way this is going to work.
	And we need to be able to experiment to find out what works and what doesn't work.
	That's a key thing.
	You know, it's kind of interesting, and you addressed this in your press release.
	The fact that the most recent data that they just released is 2021. Why is that?
	If this is something that's such a high priority for them, maybe it's because it's not working.
	Why are they three years behind in all this stuff?
	So another problem with more evidence, this is, I think, more evidence that simply bureaucracy is not up to the task, certainly of addressing environmental issues as well as other issues.
	And the fact that here we are in 2025, and the most recent data we have for Washington State's CO2 emissions is 2021. Interestingly, that is actually in violation of state law.
	State law says that by the end of even-numbered years, like 2024, they are to release emissions data for the preceding two years, which would have been 2022 and 2023. So I pointed this out and said that the state is actually in violation of its own law and being two years behind.
	And the problem with that is that 2021 data is useless if you are a policymaker trying to figure out what works and what doesn't.
	Because you can say, oh, and what they do say is, oh, yes, we didn't meet those targets, but the policies we adopted after that are working.
	Well, it's like, well, how do you know?
	You don't have any data.
	You're just making it up.
	And so when I pointed this out, that they were in violation of their law, that the governor's press secretary sent out a snarky email saying, you know, what Todd doesn't understand is how difficult it is to gather this information.
	Well, exactly.
	Government doesn't have the capacity to get the information and to do the job in a way that will work.
	That's what they are admitting is it's like, look.
	We can't do this.
	The other irony is that we actually have very onerous restrictions in Washington State about electric vehicles.
	You can't basically sell a recreational vehicle or a semi in Washington State because there aren't enough electric vehicles to sell because you have to sell a certain percentage of that.
	So we stopped.
	So the argument has been to the same agency who put these numbers out.
	We would like to comply.
	We can't.
	It's physically not possible to comply.
	And the response of the agency is, sorry, that's the law.
	So when it's other people, it's the law that you have to follow.
	When it's them, they whine about the fact that it's not possible for them to actually comply with the law.
	And I think that just shows you how incapable bureaucracy is of addressing these serious challenges, but also how...
	The image, their own image, is more important than actually reducing CO2 emissions.
	As much as they talk about it's an existential crisis, when the choice is between admitting failure and saying, yes, we need to do better, or making excuses, they make excuses to save their own image.
	And that's something that we see all the time.
	I talk about the fact that when you look at, let's say, a command-control economy's socialism, look at East Germany versus West Germany, or North Korea versus South Korea, why is it that they don't have any goods in the stores?
	Because they don't have a market system.
	Even if you had the smartest people in control, and we know that's not what happens, even if you had the smartest people in control, they don't have sufficient information to be able to make decisions about what is going to work the best.
	That's what a marketplace does.
	And so as you point out, they're making this confession that, yeah, it's not possible for us to get all this information together.
	It's not possible for them to get enough information together to make an intelligent decision.
	That's what the whole free market is about, everybody.
	And that's what your book is about as well.
	You know, thinking, getting small and pulling back instead of having central planning and dictates and mandates and bans that are being put on all kinds of things.
	And I imagine you probably have that as well.
	I mean, we're looking at, at Biden going out the door, banning hot water heaters and other things like that.
	And I'm sure you guys were way ahead of that, right?
	At the state level.
	Yes.
	In fact, we just, in Washington state, uh, The state tried to ban natural gas hookups, not just the heaters, not just the stoves or anything like that, but actually running natural gas to new homes.
	They tried to ban it.
	The voters overturned that in this last election because they recognized that it was so Excuse me, extreme.
	Yeah, and we've seen that in the U.K. as well.
	You know, they've done the same thing there.
	They want to ban natural gas and stuff.
	And, you know, heat pump in a really cold climate, like you've got in Washington State or like they've got in the U.K., heat pumps just don't make it, handle it very well during the winter.
	And so, but they don't care.
	And they want to, in the U.K., they even want to remove the existing infrastructure.
	I mean, they want to rewild, is one of the terms that they've used.
	They want to rewild.
	The infrastructure that's been built.
	In other words, you know, just take everything back down to nothing.
	That's what you're seeing everywhere.
	Well, in fact, you mentioned heat pumps.
	So I live in the mountains and we have a heat pump.
	Well, last January, it was negative 10 where I was.
	Fortunately, I have a propane backup.
	And so I have a propane tank that when it gets that low, that we can heat our house because the heat pump, when it gets, you know, in the teens and certainly negative temperatures.
	It doesn't work.
	I also have a smart thermostat and my smart thermostat would come up and say, we think that your heat pump is broken because it's just turning and not generating heat.
	And I was like, yes, because it's negative 10. And so that I think is the challenge of these one size fits all approaches.
	But you made a really good point about local control.
	And I think there's two things.
	One is that you need to have the information.
	Distant bureaucrats simply don't have the information necessary to make those good decisions because it's not in front of them, and everybody's circumstances are a little bit different.
	The second thing is that you need accountability so that when something goes wrong or when it goes right, you get that feedback.
	When you fail, you say, okay, we've got to change.
	Bureaucrats don't have that feedback.
	They don't have that accountability.
	There's a fantastic example here in Washington State.
	So the Quinault tribe, which is out on the coast, has these beautiful forests, but the Bureau of Indian Affairs had been doing all of the timber harvesting on the land on behalf of the tribe.
	And what did they do?
	They clear-cut massive areas and then left slash on the ground.
	They said, don't worry, it will decompose and trees will regrow between them.
	But what they didn't realize was that cedar has a chemical in it that slows decomposition.
	So what was left was these massive areas where there was just all of this timber slash and no regrowth at all for decades, literally for decades.
	So the tribe said, look, why don't we take over the forestry on our own land?
	Because they were the ones who were paying the price.
	They lived there.
	Not the BIA, right?
	The BIA was making decisions from Washington, D.C. So they took it over, and what was the first thing they did?
	They forested, they removed this lash, and they started harvest rotations that were sustainable that would bring back those forests.
	Now, critically...
	They harvested for revenue.
	They want that money because they recognize that it's a valuable resource and they use it to fund part of the tribe's budget.
	So they didn't just, you know, leave the trees, but they were better stewards because they had the information about how cedar worked as opposed to other trees, and then they also had the accountability.
	And my favorite part of the story was is that when the tribe took over forestry in the early 2000s, completely from the BIA, the BIA The BIA had been harvesting without any environmental assessments at all.
	They just said, well, we have a general plan, go harvest.
	When the tribe took over, the BIA said, you have to do environmental assessments.
	You can imagine the tribe's reaction when they said, you haven't been doing it, but we have to, and the BIA said yes.
	I think that's the arrogance sometimes of government overseeing, and in this case, I mean, really treating the tribe badly, who had been doing a better job than the BIA. Accountability is just so much better for the environment.
	Oh, yeah.
	I guess my question is, do they have some special status that we don't have that they could take back control from this bureaucracy?
	Because that's the biggest problem.
	We can't get control back from these bureaucracies that are doing a bad job.
	How did they get it back?
	Was it because of their status as Indian?
	Yeah, it was, because they have sovereignty.
	Now, what sovereignty means on tribal lands is sort of interesting, because the BIA is supposed to hold the land in trust and manage it for the benefit of the tribes.
	It's an incredibly paternalistic system, I think.
	But the point that you make is that in the tribes, they have the opportunity to do that.
	They can at least make an argument that they are sovereign and can do that.
	You and I, we can't say, hey, we would rather have control.
	Let us figure a way to be better stewards.
	You know, the federal and state agencies don't do that for us.
	So I think it's funny because I've started studying tribal stewardship of natural resources for this very reason, which is that they have more control.
	And I think that in many ways they provide a really good model for how we should care for natural resources because they have that local control, local knowledge.
	knowledge and the accountability.
	And when it comes from forests, fisheries, wildlife habitat, wildlife management, they do a better job.
	I'll give you one more fun example, which is that in Washington state, the wolf is considered a threatened species, but on the Colville Reservation, which is right in the area where the wolves are, they consider the wolf recovered because the populations are very high and they actually hand out hunting permits.
	That's the tribe.
	So when they have authority and when it affects them, they can say, look, we're using the information we have.
	We have the accountability.
	We have the control to do a better job than the sort of bureaucratic systems from the government.
	Well, that's interesting.
	But part of it is, and again, it is the status of the Indians, but...
	Regular Americans have sovereignty that they're not using as well.
	And I think that they need to start using the Tenth Amendment and some of these other things because federal policy, especially when you talk about forests, and we were talking about that earlier in the program with the fires that are happening in L.A., seen it over and over again.
	Poor forestry management, because they're not doing stewardship anymore, they're doing environmentalism, and it's kind of just, you know, don't touch anything type of thing, rather than actually doing stewardship.
	And it has been disaster.
	It's been disastrous for the last 50 years, and it's getting worse all the time.
	And so I think everybody needs to start getting together and seeing how we're going to increase our sovereignty so that we can start addressing some of these problems ourselves.
	And of course, that's what your book is focused on, not the political aspect of it, but the beauty of having smaller local decisions.
	Tell us a little bit about your book again.
	I know we talked about it last time you were on, and the title of it is...
	Time to think small, how nimble environmental technology can solve the planet's biggest problems.
	And there are a lot of folks on the center-right who care about the environment but are very skeptical about environmental issues because they feel that it's a Trojan horse for policies that they don't like.
	And in many cases, as we discussed, it is.
	But they want to find an alternative that they can support to protect the natural resources.
	Like I said, conservatives live around that.
	The other source that I've had a lot of people say is, my college-age son or daughter comes back and lectures me about the environment and why don't we care about the environment.
	And so I said, well, give them my book.
	It'll explain a better way to help the environment.
	But what it shows is that in the 1970s, when we created the EPA, you didn't have the technology, you didn't have the control for individuals to make a big difference in environmental stewardship.
	That's just simply not true anymore.
	We now have the technology.
	We now have the ability to do really remarkable things to be good stewards of the environment in ways that bureaucracies fail.
	And so what we recognize, what we need to recognize is that we need to change the way that we do environmental stewardship, put the power in the hands of individuals, peoples, innovative companies, and less in the hands of politicians and bureaucrats who tend to focus on their own interests rather than the interests of the planet.
	And Washington State's failure on reducing CO2 emissions that we saw this week is really just the perfect example of where an issue that the politicians say is critical, an existential crisis, and yet even they fail and then make excuses for that fail rather than saying we need to find and yet even they fail and then make excuses for that fail rather For them, it's about political image.
	It should be about for the planet, for conservatives and those on the center-right who live near nature every day.
	That's what thinking small, that's what these new technologies, that's what my book is about.
	It's about ways to do that, that actually live, that help us live the lives the way we want.
	while being good stewards of the planet that's really well said and again the book is time to think small by todd myers and i guess i can find that amazon anywhere books are sold right yeah absolutely that's great yeah i've seen that same type of thing as a matter of fact i worked with a guy at a think tank who had been with the epa uh at the time he had just retired he'd He was with them for about 30 years right after their creation.
	And to see that it had kind of changed its whole mission statement, you know.
	And the EPA has not really been about pollution anymore.
	It's all about the environmentalism.
	And so that's what we see with the bureaucracies.
	And it's really by design because it allows these people who have to stand for election.
	To not have any accountability either, because they can always push it onto the bureaucracy.
	Thank you so much for joining us, Todd Myers.
	And again, the book is Time to Think Small by Todd Myers, and he works there at the Washington Policy Center.
	Thank you all of you, and thank you Sandy Hayes.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you for the tip.
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