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The David Knight Show - 06/04/2024

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	Using free speech to free minds.
	You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Tuesday, the 4th of June, Year of Our Lord 2024.
	We are going to take a look today at the hearings with Fauci, where his filthy rags and his filthy past was aired.
	But is there something that can be done besides just publicly yelling at this guy?
	Is Congress going to do anything to punish him?
	Or committing perjury, for example, as they did not punish James Clapper.
	Will they hit him with fines?
	Will they change laws?
	Will they drop the funding for his organization?
	They got in $710 million in royalty payments, 97% of it done in a hidden way, secretly.
	The corruption is amazing.
	We're going to start there. We have a guest who's going to be joining us in the third hour talking about toxic things in your food, especially for young kids and pregnant women.
	and make sure you listen to this. We'll be right back.
	Well, let me just say this, this is not a history lesson.
	Nothing has changed.
	Nothing has changed.
	They're still building up to do this.
	They are working on bird flu, as we all know.
	They will come back after the food.
	They will inject the food.
	Perhaps inject some of the most gullible and fearful among us as well.
	But mainly the cattle this time.
	They treated us like cattle before.
	They will now inject the cattle for actually...
	And they want to take down our food supply.
	I got this from Kenny in Iowa.
	I talked about the farm where they said a case was found.
	A case? What does that mean?
	Was one chicken sick?
	Or did they play these games with a PCR test?
	I played for you yesterday the fact that a guy from Ireland said, I work for the people that make this digital PCR, and it is far, far more sensitive to Then the quantitative PCR with 40 cycles where they magnify substance by 1.1 trillion times.
	You can find anything you want when you do that.
	That was so abusive. You know, that's 2 to the 40th power.
	And previously people said, well, you shouldn't go any higher than cycle thresholds in the mid-20s.
	Even that is ridiculous.
	And even that... The inventor, Kerry Mullis, who won a Nobel Prize for it, said you can't use that to diagnose disease.
	And he was doing that to fight Fauci on AIDS. That's where Fauci did this first rodeo.
	Fauci got away with that. This guy, Kerry Mullis, died.
	Of respiratory illness, amazingly enough, I believe just a couple of months before they rolled out this game that they'd rehearsed for 20 years.
	So Fauci, 15 years or so before they did the first germ games, played this game with PCR. And then they came up with a germ game idea, lock everybody down, put out a vaccine that you haven't tested.
	They practiced that for 20 years, laid the legal foundation for it.
	Trump released the funds to fund it.
	Well, Kenny is right down the street, or actually in the same area.
	I won't say right down the street. He didn't use those words.
	But he is there in Iowa, close to where that chicken farm is.
	They found a case, they said.
	No definition of it, what that meant.
	And demanded that over 4 million chickens be killed.
	He said... I have a lot to say, but I'll keep it brief.
	The chicken farm you're referring to is about 10 minutes away from me.
	It's called Centerfresh Eggs.
	The same thing happened to them six or seven years ago as well.
	They had a cleanup crew from Georgia come up here at that time.
	So what did the cleanup look like?
	They bulldozed the carcasses into a nearby field and lit it on fire.
	And then plowed under the remains and planted corn.
	Nobody got sick then.
	Nobody is sick now.
	He says, we've got a lot more to say, but maybe he'll send it later on to give us his ideas.
	But we had Fauci. Just as a reminder of what happened four years ago, and folks, as a reminder that the Congress will do nothing about any of this.
	They won't stop the funding, they won't punish anybody, they won't send anybody to jail, nobody gets fines, even though they got three quarters of a billion dollars there, split between Fauci and these scientists at the NIAID. And so the hearings, I don't know if this is part of the Fauci hearing, but just on a lighter note, I love this picture here.
	This is John Rose.
	He is a congressman from Tennessee.
	I don't know anything about him.
	He's a Republican. Of course, the entire delegation from Tennessee is Republican, but I don't know anything else about him.
	He gave up and he gave general speeches.
	This is not the Fauci hearing, but he brought his son to work.
	And there is his son making faces.
	And John Rose said, well, that'll teach me to tell him to smile at his brother on the camera.
	We'd be well served to remember the long and cherished tradition we have in this country of settling our political differences at the ballot box.
	For nearly two and a half centuries, our nation's elected leaders have properly resisted the temptation to oppose their political rivals through the weaponization of our justice system.
	Equal justice for all.
	And an overall trust in our justice system is fundamental to who we are as Americans.
	He's six years old, his son. And shortly after that point, He kind of got the hook, you know, pulling him off as somebody comes out from the side and pulls him off of the camera.
	And everybody on both sides of the aisle, as they say, thought that was a refreshing moment from all of the hate and civil war that we've been seeing.
	One of the most exciting things that ever happened on C-SPAN, said John Lovett.
	Another person said, to be fair, he shows more maturity and decorum than Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	We'll get into that.
	But, yeah, she had some harsh words for Fauci.
	Who deserved the harsh words, quite frankly?
	And then a Fauci capo.
	He is the drug father.
	He is a godfather organized crime figure.
	A Fauci capo testifies to Congress.
	I don't even know what our ethics office does.
	They do nothing.
	By the way, it's not mentioned in this article.
	The fact that the head of their ethics is Fauci's wife.
	Isn't that convenient? You know, it's kind of like, oh yeah, of course we couldn't do nothing unethical.
	My wife's right here.
	She's got it under control.
	You know, you believe that? It's kind of like putting Trump in and saying that he's the anti-globalist.
	You know, Fauci's wife is going to be against unethical movements.
	That's the way they operate.
	They put their people in there.
	And the ethics department, completely unused.
	I have no idea.
	You know, what is it? Ethics?
	What is that? Never heard of it.
	I don't even know what our ethics office does, said David Borens.
	And he's worked for the NIH for 26 years.
	Never had any encounter with ethics there the entire time, as we understand.
	It's pretty clear that they don't have any ethics there.
	I thought it was funny over the weekend, everybody talking about Trump's convictions, and I said, well, I didn't know that he had any convictions.
	At last he does.
	At last he does. But not the kind that come from an ethics organization.
	I had told the story before that when we were adopting my daughter, the adoption lawyer asked us for a biography.
	And so we told her how, you know, why we got out of the video business.
	We said we did it because of our convictions.
	She came back and she said, I need to know the nature of those convictions and what the penalties were.
	And I was like, no, no, it's a different kind of conviction.
	So, Marjorie Taylor Greene, she refused to call Fauci a doctor.
	I can agree with that.
	Maybe just call him Doctor Who.
	I don't know which incarnation he was in, as he testified before Congress.
	And we're not doing time traveling here, you know, because we're still living under this Fauci regime.
	Trump wouldn't get rid of him.
	But nobody is amazing how angry they can get at Fauci, isn't it?
	And never get angry with the guy who put him in power.
	The guy who put him on the podium, took the little elf and stuck him up on the podium.
	Never took him down.
	Refused to take him down even though his supporters were begging him.
	We'll see. We'll see.
	Vote for me. We'll see what happens after the election.
	Nothing happens after the election.
	He gave Fauci a medal on his last day in office, right?
	So Marjorie Taylor Greene said, do the American people deserve to be abused like that, Mr.
	Fauci? Because you're not a doctor.
	You're Mr. Fauci in my few minutes.
	And so he started to reply, and she said, no, I don't need your answer.
	See, this is these congressional hearings.
	Remember, was it last week or two weeks ago that I showed that?
	Picture of the women who paid $4,000, the offals, the affluent white female ultra-liberals who paid $4,000 to go out into the woods and to yell and scream and bang sticks on the ground.
	To release their anger, right?
	Is this what's happening in Congress?
	Not just with Marjorie Taylor Greene, but with all these people.
	You know, the Republicans, you pay them $4,000.
	And they yell and scream at Fauci.
	And that's supposed to make it all better.
	It doesn't make it all better.
	Not only did all these people get away with it, they got away with it and made millions of dollars.
	And nothing has been changed.
	Nothing has been reduced.
	None of the funding. For the NIH, none of the funding for Fauci's NIAID under the NIH, as nothing has been done about that.
	Look, folks, the entire health and human services bureaucracy.
	You have HHS, you've got Javier Becerra, the...
	The guy who was prosecuting people who showed that the government, the NIH, the NIAID, the FDA, were paying Planned Parenthood to cut up babies and send them the body parts.
	He came after the people who exposed that.
	But, you know, from Javier Becerra, who's head of the HHS right now.
	Trump put a pharmaceutical executive as head of that.
	But everything in that entire organization, HHS, It should be gone, because HHS itself, there is no authority under the Constitution for it.
	And it has not helped us at all.
	Why is Congress funding any of this?
	Why can't they even, okay, I know it's a big ask for these people to shut down a bureaucracy to not fund it.
	They want to fund everything everywhere.
	How do you got Biden even paying foreign countries to groom kids and transgenderism at an early age?
	I mean, it's insane how the Federal Reserve and all of this fiat currency is being abused, how evil it is.
	But look, can't you at least get rid of Fauci's organization?
	You all hate Fauci so much.
	Maybe you can't get rid of the NIH. We can get rid of the NIAID, can't you?
	No, nothing. Nothing is going to go.
	They're going to yell and scream at him.
	And that's it. Maybe this is cathartic for the congressman, but I get nothing out of it, and neither do you.
	These people are clowns.
	They're putting on a show.
	They're performers. And I'm sick of it.
	They have the power to do something.
	That's what they were elected to do. They not only have the power, they have the duty to do something about it.
	And they refuse to do their duty.
	And so, afterwards, she was confronted by some mainstream media about her Trump worship.
	Here's what she had to say. Excuse me, let me correct you, and this is really important.
	I don't worship. I worship God.
	God. And Jesus is my savior.
	I don't worship President Trump.
	And I'm really sick and tired of the bull**** annex I have to deal with constantly from the Democrats.
	Okay, so but if Trump is above criticism, Marjorie, Are you worshipping him?
	Do you set him in a separate category?
	Fauci and everybody else, okay?
	Everybody else is responsible.
	And everybody, every president is responsible for everything that happens in their administration.
	Except for Trump. He wasn't responsible for any of it.
	He's just this kindly mafia figure who doesn't know anything about what's going on.
	They love him to be tough and gangster and a casino owner and all the rest of this stuff.
	But don't call him a gangster like Robert De Niro did.
	Well, it takes one to know one, doesn't it?
	I mean, De Niro's played gangsters all of his life.
	He knows when a guy's playing gangster, and that's what the MAGA people love.
	They love him being a gangster.
	And he is not responsible for anything that Fauci did.
	He's not responsible for keeping Fauci there, for putting Fauci, elevating him, keeping him there, giving him a medal.
	He's not responsible for that.
	He's not responsible for paying it, for bribing people to do what Fauci did.
	Trump's not responsible for anything that's bad.
	Don't tell me you don't worship him, you idolatrous congresswoman.
	Should Trump be questioned for putting Fauci in charge of medical martial law?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	For the Simon Says nonsense.
	Simon Says stay six feet apart.
	Simon Says put on a mask.
	Simon Says put on two, put on three.
	No, no. How about for refusing to fire Fauci?
	Not only elevating him, but refusing to fire him when everybody said so.
	No. He shouldn't be responsible for any of that.
	And, of course, Bill Gates' Gavi was part of the final solution, if we want to call it that.
	And Trump was all about Gavi, not just Fauci, but he liked Gavi as well.
	Gavi operates with great transparency, and Boris Johnson is somebody with tremendous respect for you and everything you do.
	He called, he said, you think you could do something maybe around the Oval Office or right by the Oval Office?
	I said, why not?
	It happens to be right behind me.
	As the coronavirus has shown, there are no borders.
	It doesn't discriminate.
	It's mean, it's nasty, but we're going to all take care of it together.
	It's great to be partnering with you.
	We will work hard.
	We will work strong. Send my regards to Boris and good luck.
	Let's get the answer. Yeah, yeah.
	So, you know, billions to these different people, billions to back and forth, and the biometric tracking that was being done.
	So the WHO loved it.
	Gavi loved it. Gates.
	USAID, the CIA, they all loved it.
	They were the ones who tweeted out that video.
	By the way, that was retweeted by Doggy Stylist.
	Thanks for sending that to me.
	And then, of course, there was Fauci with his vaccine mandates.
	You think... I have to say that I don't see a big solution other than some sort of mandatory vaccination.
	I know federal officials don't like to use that term.
	Once people feel empowered and protected legally, you are going to have schools, universities, and colleges.
	Legally protected.
	Gangster. Corporations like Amazon and Facebook and all of those others are going to say, you want to work for us, you get vaccinated.
	And it's been proven that when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological bullshit and they get vaccinated.
	Thank you. Are all objections to COVID vaccinations ideological bullshit, Dr.
	Fauci? No. No, they're not, and that's not what I was referring to.
	Well, in reference to making it hard for people to get education, traveling, working, I'd say it very much was in context.
	And I take great offense to this.
	Ms. Allison Williams testified before this committee about losing her job because she sought an exemption for ESPN's vaccine mandate, which came from recommendations from bureaucrats like yourself.
	Well, of course, that was a congressman and physician, Dr.
	McCormick. He had, before he played that clip that I played for you from that documentary about Fauci, before that, he had talked about how he had been punished and censored and all this other stuff because, as a doctor, he was treating people who had respiratory illness.
	And he said, oh, there are certain things that I was allowed to do and other things I wasn't allowed to do.
	Did you treat anybody, Dr.
	Fauci? Well, yeah, I was part of an organization that was...
	No, no. Did you personally treat anybody?
	He knew what the answer was. And Fauci wouldn't say it.
	And so you heard what Fauci said.
	Yeah, once they're legally protected, we're going to have them demanding it.
	And who's going to be demanding this?
	These legally protected...
	It's going to be the big corporations.
	You want a job with a big corporation?
	So the big corporations, according to Trump, were essential.
	Mom and pop businesses, Main Street, all that kind of stuff.
	All the service businesses, which is really all that's been left to us now since we've got the China price and free trade and all the rest of this stuff.
	The only thing that is left after Wall Street has come in to retail trade with funding these people, they don't even have to make a profit.
	They just keep going on and on and on.
	That really is a thing.
	It truly is amazing when you look at it.
	Again, we had some video stories.
	I saw Blockbuster compete for 20 years against us.
	Never made a profit.
	Never. I can't operate that.
	But they have access to unlimited amounts of money, just like the Federal Reserve.
	Wall Street is another mechanism for funding losers.
	People who can't operate at a profit.
	People who are being used sometimes by the government to take over entire industries and to continue losing money for a long time.
	And so the mom and pop Wall Street business, Main Street businesses were non-essential.
	The big corporations from Wall Street, they were essential.
	Essential to what? Essential to you and me?
	No. Essential to Fauci and the government's plans?
	Yes, that's where they were essential.
	And so we're going to use the big corporations to do it.
	It's very cynical, isn't it?
	Maybe somebody ought to investigate Fauci for racketeering, influence, corrupt organizations, RICO statute.
	If ever there was an application for the RICO statute, Fauci and his organization there inside the government qualify.
	It is a bullying, corrupt organization.
	Monopolistic as well.
	Filled with conspiracies and collusion and criminal conspiracies.
	And so what can somebody like Dr.
	McCormick do about this, right?
	When you talk about these things, they use the semantics of mandates versus coercion, that type of thing, or incentive.
	That's just semantics.
	The law needs to be changed, first of all.
	But secondly, the funding, right?
	What do these legislators do?
	Do they write law? No, they kick it over to the bureaucracy.
	We talk about that all the time.
	Regulation without representation.
	They don't want to be responsible for writing laws.
	That's what they were elected to do, but they don't want to do it.
	So they create these organizations like Nancy Pelosi.
	We're going to pass it to find out what's in it.
	They don't want responsibility for this stuff.
	So they have the bureaucracy do it because the bureaucracy is unaccountable.
	No matter what they do, as we see with Fauci, no matter what they do, nothing ever happens to them.
	And nothing ever happens to the bureaucracy either.
	And so they need to be held responsible.
	And you've got some legislators there.
	How do you hold them responsible?
	Well, first of all, you shut down the institutions.
	You stop funding them.
	You stop funding them.
	You remove some of the legal pretense that is there.
	But you've got to get rid of these organizations.
	They're corrupted. Maybe there's something they could do to these individuals, but the organization is still being funded by them while they yell at Fauci.
	It's just a disgusting show.
	They do nothing.
	They could do something besides yelling at him for the cameras.
	And of course, Trump himself didn't want to do anything.
	And at an April 13th press briefing, Trump was asked why he retweeted a call to fire Fauci.
	Today I walk in, I hear I'm going to fire him.
	I'm not firing him. I think he's a wonderful guy.
	Why did you tweet something that said fire Fauci?
	Why did you? Fire Fauci.
	I retweeted somebody.
	I don't know. They said fire.
	Doesn't matter. I was immediately called upon that.
	And I said, no, I like him.
	Yeah, I like him.
	Yeah, I like him. And, you know, that was at the beginning of all this nonsense.
	That was the beginning of Trump's lockdowns and pandemics and superstitious stuff, you know.
	Six feet apart. Don't step on a crack.
	You'll break your mother's back. Don't walk under the ladder.
	Knock on wood. Wear a mask.
	Say six feet apart.
	And then at the very end...
	When he was running for re-election, right?
	At a rally in Florida yesterday, President Trump thanked the crowd for their advice and commented on Dr.
	Fauci's future. Fire!
	Fauci! Fire! Fauci!
	Fire! He's not going to give you what you want.
	Ever. Ever.
	You're suckers. MAGA, you're suckers.
	Don't kill anybody, but let me wait until a little bit after the election, please.
	Yay! Yay!
	Oh yeah, what a bunch of suckers!
	4D chess! Now he's been wrong in a lot.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That was the crowd chanting fire Fauci ahead of time.
	The White House blasted Dr.
	Fauci on Saturday after he was critical of the administration's pandemic response in an interview with the Washington Post.
	Yeah. The only thing that Trump didn't like about Fauci was when Fauci criticized him.
	Don't you dare criticize me.
	Deeply wounded narcissist and capable of acting except in his own perceived self-interest or out of revenge.
	He's not going to fire Fauci because that's not in his perceived self-interest.
	And so Congress doesn't fire Fauci either.
	Congress doesn't fire the NIH. Congress doesn't fire the NIAID or the FDA or the USDA. They will always pretend they're going to do something later, won't they?
	And yet they never do.
	They just keep making these empty promises, whether it's about the border, whether it's about the FBI and their corruption, whether it's about the medical martial law.
	Oh, we'll fix it later, won't we?
	Well, we're going to take a quick break.
	When we come back, we're going to take a look at masks, at beagles, and at babies.
	That other part of the legacy of Fauci.
	You know what, Robert De Niro got everybody angry by calling Trump a gangster.
	Well, you know, truly the guy who is a gangster is the drug father.
	I want to ask you about some local issues.
	Culver City Unified School District in California became the first public school district in the U.S. to require vaccinations not only for teachers and staff but also for eligible students who are 12 and over.
	Now that the vaccine has full approval from the FDA, the Pfizer vaccine, would you like to see it mandated for students elsewhere in the U.S.? And once it's approved for kids under 12, should it be mandated for them too?
	You know, I know that a lot of people will be pushing back against that, but if you get the imprimatur about the safety and the strong benefit-risk ratio for the children, when that gets established, which I believe it certainly will, by the FDA and the ACIP, I believe that mandating vaccines for children to appear in school is a good idea.
	And remember, Jake, this is not something new.
	We have mandates in many places in schools, particularly public schools.
	I also don't believe in drugs.
	For years I paid my people extra so they wouldn't do that kind of business.
	Give me a heads. He comes to them and says, I have powders.
	If you put up three, four thousand dollar investment, we can make fifty thousand distributing.
	So they can't resist.
	I want to control it as a business to keep it respectable.
	I don't want it near schools.
	I don't want to talk to children.
	That's an infirmity.
	You want a child to come in?
	We've done this for decades and decades, requiring polio, measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis.
	So this would not be something new.
	They have to get the shot.
	The vaccinations are so important.
	This is really going around now.
	They have to get their shot.
	It's true. I have a lot of friends in politics.
	But they wouldn't be friendly very long if they knew my business was drugs instead of gambling, which they would have as a harmless vice, but drugs is a dirty business.
	Plant the seed in our homeland, boys, let it grow where all can see.
	Feed it with our devotion, boys, call it the Liberty Tree.
	It's a tall old tree and a strong old tree.
	And we are the sons, yes we are the sons, the sons of liberty.
	The National Anthem of the Soviet Union.
	It's your move.
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	Yeah, well, the medical martial law.
	Let's take a look at the masks and what it looks like.
	Because this is a lie that went around the world.
	Oh, it wasn't globalism, was it?
	What Trump did was not globalism?
	Well, we saw this happening in Australia.
	Here's a repeat of a guy.
	There he is. He's arguing with the police.
	They're telling him he's got to put his mask on, right?
	And it's probably a good thing that we...
	I think the heated discussion here.
	Now push comes to shove.
	Now they're trying to tackle him down.
	He's very angry. I guess he's got a vegetable stand there or something.
	And they wrestle him to the ground to put the mask on him.
	And he eventually takes refuge in a car.
	And the police come there, bust out the windows, and drag him out so they can put a mask on him.
	This is...
	Yeah, he was a butcher.
	This is... I saw other pictures in Australia where a guy was not arguing with him.
	He wasn't angry with him. Instead, they've got mounted police...
	A couple of them come up to him, and then they've got like six or seven officers there on the ground.
	They grab him, hold him, put a mask on him from behind.
	This is what we've gone through, and we should not forget what they have done, because folks are going to try to do it again.
	And, you know, when you look at Fauci, as soon as the cameras were off, what did he do?
	Oh, yeah. He took his mask off.
	Look at the picture of him also where he's sitting there in baseball.
	He and another person don't have a mask on.
	The other person does. But there he is.
	And he's there in Congress.
	And he's taking his mask off and the cameras are turned off.
	Cameras off, mask off. Because that's all it really was about.
	Here's a supercut of Fauci and the masks.
	People should not be walking around with masks.
	Let me just state for the record that masks are not theater.
	Wearing a mask will make people feel a little bit better.
	And masks are protective.
	And it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is.
	There has not been any indication.
	They got to get the vaccine. And wearing a mask for a considerable period of time has any deleterious effects.
	There are unintended consequences.
	People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.
	And can you get some schmutz sort of staying inside there?
	Of course. You do not need to wear a mask indoors if, in fact...
	You've been vaccinated.
	Good that you're vaccinated, but in a situation where you have people indoors, particularly crowded, you should wear a mask.
	So even if you are vaccinated, you should wear a mask.
	If, in fact, you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, you are protected, and you do not need to wear a mask outdoors or indoors.
	When the children go out into the community, you want them to continue to wear masks.
	You know, if you look at children outside, particularly when they're with the family of Walking down the street, playing a game or what have you, don't have to wear a mask.
	The Pediatric, the Academy of Pediatric, actually makes that recommendation that children should be wearing masks from two years old onward.
	Only in the United States, right?
	If a child is a member of your household, can you walk outdoors with your child without a mask?
	According to that chart, the answer is yes.
	But the child can't, not to beat it to death.
	Yes, yes. Now the CDC says, I mean, I think I've got this right.
	One mask is better than zero masks.
	Two masks is better than one mask.
	But you don't have to have double masks.
	Is that right? I mean, you know, it became clear that cloth coverings that you didn't have to buy in a store that you could make yourself were adequate.
	So one of the ways you could do it if you would like to is put a cloth mask over which actually here and here and here where you could get leakage in is much better contained.
	Are you a double masker Dr.
	Fauci? Look like you are!
	Yeah. Yeah.
	It's theater. You know, you look at this stuff, and I guess we should just forget about this.
	We shouldn't criticize him or anybody at CNN or anybody at Infowars for pushing this stuff.
	No, just let it go.
	Trump was fine. He's just playing 40 chess.
	Don't worry about any of this stuff, right?
	None of this stuff has been stopped.
	Like I said, it's not good enough.
	It's good that we just walk away.
	But it's not good enough to leave that there.
	There's got to be some changes.
	Because they're already trying to push it again.
	Dave Smith got on with Chris Cuomo and debated, again, exposing the lies, the hypocrisy of Chris Cuomo, who is reinventing himself as all these people are.
	I saw Megyn Kelly, who was at war with Trump when she was covered at Fox News, but then she left for greener pastures, or maybe I should say more green than she was already getting from Fox News.
	And then that didn't work out, so she was let go.
	Now she's an independent, and as an independent, she realizes that, hey, I've got to suck up to Trump in order to succeed at this.
	Take a look at Julie Green, this false prophetess that I played yesterday.
	All of her videos, she's getting 125,000, 150,000 views.
	Why? Simply because...
	She follows Trump, simply because she tells people what they want to hear.
	Trump is still president.
	Trump is God's chosen, anointed Messiah to save America.
	And everything that she says, and she makes a prediction about what's going to happen, everything she says is false.
	And of course, all the rest of the stuff about Trump is false as well.
	But people want to hear that.
	You tell them a lie, no matter how absurd it is, And they will follow it.
	I saw that with Steve Pachenik two days after the election, telling everybody, hey, it's a big sting.
	Trump knew this was going to happen.
	He took care of it. He's got 20,000 National Guard out there arresting people now.
	They did blockchain watermark ballots, and they're tabulating it with quantum computers.
	All of it was absurd.
	It's just a chain of buzzwords that he put together.
	And yet, everybody wanted to believe that.
	And when I tweeted out that it was a lie, boy, people got really angry with me, just like they got really angry when I played the stuff about Alex Jones and the sugar water.
	Very weak, attenuated classic viruses with a very low amount of adjuvant in it.
	Trump's looking at basically sugar water for folks.
	Can we take a little bit of an attenuated, microwaved or radiated...
	COVID deal? Absolutely. That's why Trump is taking control of the process.
	Do it for Trump. Do it for Trump. Take some sugar water for Trump.
	You can do it for Trump. Come on.
	And people say, well, come on.
	He pushed back against the vaccine for decades.
	You're a liar. You're a bitter old man.
	It's like, well, I'm not bitter. As I said, I am old, but I'm not bitter about it.
	I do want to stop this.
	I want people to stop listening to people who lied to them.
	And as I said, dear anonymous trolls, I hope that none of you or your family members followed this medical advice from Alex.
	Did Alex know about that?
	Yes, he did. As a matter of fact, he's there telling you, well, yeah, it's going to have some adjuvants in it.
	He spent more than a decade prior to that, or 20 years probably, Telling people, don't take vaccines because of the adjuvants in them.
	Because it's aluminum.
	Because it's mercury that you're injecting.
	And he goes, it's going to be adjuvants, aluminum and mercury, but you can do that for Trump, right?
	I told you not to do it for 20 years, but you can do it for Trump because it's 4D chest.
	We've got to have Trump or we're all going to die, right?
	Well, you're all going to die with Trump.
	You're all going to die for Trump, aren't you?
	Talk about people dying with COVID or from COVID. Are you going to die with Trump or from Trump?
	Which one is it going to be?
	Because the whole thing was a lie.
	It was a grift.
	It was a psychological operation.
	So you've got people like Chris Cuomo, just like Megyn Kelly, you know, a member of the debate.
	And she asked some tough questions of Trump.
	So then he came back at her.
	Oh, she had like blood coming out of everywhere or whatever, wherever.
	Something like that, right? Now she's a big Trump fan, a big Trump defender, because she needs an audience.
	And Chris Cuomo needs an audience, and so he's trying to come back against ivermectin in a limited way.
	Zero Hedge says, for the legions of us who still carry righteous rage about this tyrannical and destructive COVID-19 regime.
	So it was a COVID-19 regime for Zero Hedge because they're Trump supporters, right?
	They can't say the Trump regime.
	The Trump administration. The Trump plan.
	The Trump executive. No, it was COVID who did it to us.
	The COVID thing.
	That COVID. That virus that you can't even see?
	It did it. Not Trump who you see.
	Don't believe your lying eyes.
	It was this invisible virus that did it to you.
	This invisible pandemic did it to you.
	They said, well, the plan is aligned on Friday and gave us some enormous, vicarious pleasure watching one of libertarianism's most articulate voices repeatedly pummel one of the most visible villains of that dark era.
	And so it was the comedian who was pushing back against the CNN commentator.
	Cuomo stunned everybody with, anyone with a memory, with his exchange with Lemon, saying, I don't like what people did to Joe Rogan about Ivermectin.
	And Dave Smith, who was the comedian there, says, well, you did it.
	You did that.
	Right? And he says, oh, find the clips.
	And so they eventually did find the clips and ran the clips.
	Obviously, there was so much talk that they don't want you to take ivermectin.
	Ivermectin is the way to go take it.
	Joe Rogan got better from ivermectin.
	And by the way, I don't like what people did to Joe Rogan about ivermectin.
	You did it! No, no.
	You did. Find the clips.
	Dude, find the clips.
	You shamed Joe Rogan.
	Find the clips. You said he's taking horse.
	You and Don Lemon were chuckling at each other about it.
	I'll go find the clips. First of all, you just saw the clips.
	I'm not chuckling. I'm listening to Don.
	No, no, no. The clip I'm talking about wasn't on there.
	And it's absolutely there.
	Oh, here. Do we have it? Hold on.
	Let's play the clip. Injecting drugs for animals and horse...
	And people telling them to.
	Oh, my God. What person?
	You know, you talk about, like, you know, cancel culture and who to shame.
	Ivermectin? A dewormer?
	Really? They are shaming themselves.
	That's what it is. They're shaming themselves.
	So you're taking a dewormer right now, Chris.
	Chris, you can't apologize for that.
	You weren't being clear that it was this, and you know that, dude.
	You're being so dishonest right now, Matt.
	I'm not being dishonest. You were talking about Ivermectin drug.
	You were not talking about this version of Ivermectin.
	Come on, man. I was responding to a situation where we were told that this is what people were searching out to take and nobody knew what it was going to do to them.
	I'm taking the drug right now.
	Obviously, I don't think it's all poison.
	I stopped calling it the horse drug when, and you cannot like it, CNN's chief medical officer, who is Sanjay Gupta, said to me, you shouldn't just call it a horse dewormer.
	There's a whole legitimate aspect of the drug.
	I wouldn't use it for COVID-19, but it's not just the veterinary grade.
	So I stopped calling it that.
	And then it went away.
	By the way, I don't know if you guys saw this.
	One of the best moments during the pandemic was when Dr.
	Gupta, who was just mentioned, went on Joe Rogan's podcast.
	For all the days of CNN demonizing Joe Rogan, they send their top doctor out there onto his show.
	And he goes, why is everyone on your network saying I'm taking horse dewormer?
	Ivermectin's not. And Dr.
	Gupta looked down at his lap and went, yeah, no, they shouldn't be saying that.
	Yeah, yeah. Well, he said, Cuomo, you know, you didn't do your job.
	What is the job of a journalist, right?
	Well, he said, you've got to be skeptical of power.
	You've got to shine a light against propaganda.
	You should be concerned about what's true, right?
	Instead of propagating propaganda.
	You should be skeptical of power.
	You shouldn't be a cheerleader for a politician telling people it's 4D chess when Trump lies to you.
	It applies to both the left and the right, doesn't it?
	Maybe try a little bit of truth for a change.
	Wouldn't that be refreshing? Well, no, it would put him out of business.
	So he says, you ate up every piece of propaganda, you repeated all of it without any thought as to whether or not it was true or not, and then you smeared millions of people, like myself, who are opposed to this stuff.
	By the way, you know, Rogan's not any hero of this movement either.
	He's the proverbial fence-setter most of the time, and he was testing people.
	Who came to his studio, had to be tested, and all this other kind of stuff.
	I mean, he drank the Kool-Aid with the rest of these people.
	And then, of course, you know, Tucker Carlson sold the Kool-Aid.
	He got paid tens of millions of dollars to sell pharmaceutical stuff and be quiet.
	And introduce these doctors who were going to do the propaganda, never push back against them at all.
	Because, you know, you get fired if you do something like that, he said.
	You get fired if you tell the people the truth about 9-11, he said.
	He still hasn't told you the truth about it.
	So as for the lockdowns were a net benefit or instead if they erred on the side of catastrophe, Cuomo drew audience laughter when he said, the people I talked to who made these decisions stand by them.
	Dave Smith said, well, I'm sure that Dick Cheney stands by the war in Iraq as well.
	Mm-hmm. Yeah. They will make many, many mistakes.
	They'll double down on their mistakes rather than admitting a single mistake.
	They will never apologize, just like Trump will not apologize, even though people have begged him to.
	You've got commentators.
	Who know that they've got to have that Trump audience, and it puts them in a very difficult position to lie for Trump, to continue to support him, when they oppose everything that he did, and yet not hold him responsible.
	So they're pleading with him. People like Wayne Allen Root and Alex Jones have pleaded with him.
	Please stop pushing the vaccine.
	Please stop it. It is truly amazing to watch all this stuff.
	And then Dr. Peter McCauley, you know, let's plead with him and tell him, just tell people that you made a mistake.
	Blame it on Biden. Say, Biden shouldn't have pushed this stuff out.
	I started this program and, you know, tell people you thought it was going to be sugar water or something, right?
	It's pulled back. No, Trump won't do that.
	He will not admit to a mistake.
	None of these people will.
	I played for you what he said when he was running for president in 2016.
	All these people asked him because he was...
	You know, going around these different Christian places and holding up Bibles and stuff.
	Now he's selling Bibles.
	And I said, so have you ever asked God for forgiveness?
	I don't need to do that.
	I don't think that I need to be forgiven for.
	Trump won't even ask God for forgiveness.
	And I said when I saw it, it made me feel, for the first time, sorry for the man.
	Because you see the humanity that's there.
	He's still a human. He's still facing God's judgment eternally for what he has done, what he continues to do.
	And the one sin that's not going to be forgiven is to not believe, not to ask.
	Finally, Smith gave the audience a big picture view of dumbed down late empire America, as Zero Hedge said, where the decadence of two guys in a pride parade dressed up as standing up for our rights, whereas people in power pit Americans against each other, diverting their attention from universally experienced woes like the Federal Reserve's destruction of the dollar or this.
	They don't talk about medical martial law or that, right?
	Yeah, if you oppose that, you're evil.
	But if you go to a pride parade, you're good.
	And so the WHO's director, Tedros, has been saying it's time to be more aggressive in pushing back on anti-vaxxers.
	He's very concerned about this because there was a lot of pushback on this pandemic treaty, mostly from anti-vaxxers.
	I am, ich bin ein anti-vaxxer, and I'm proud of it.
	I was anti-vax before it became cool.
	It's still not cool with these people.
	I was anti-vax before COVID. I was, you know, anti-vax just like Mike Adams was.
	You know, he was anti-flu shot until COVID came out.
	Then he was pro-flu shot, pro-MRNA flu shot, right?
	Got to get that. Listen to everything the CDC says.
	They say there's a pandemic out there of flu.
	Well, you wouldn't believe it when they're trying to sell the flu shot.
	But when the CDC says there's a pandemic out there, more people are dying from COVID than from heart attack and cancer.
	Well, you better believe that.
	Better do what CDC says.
	Well, the reality is, as I've said, they faced opposition on the pandemic treaty and its various names and formats, also on the international health regulations, but they're still pushing on it.
	They're not going to give up. Price of Liberty is eternal vigilance.
	We're going to have to continue to push against them.
	And they know who their opposition is.
	It's the anti-vaxxers.
	And so he says we've got to get more aggressive in pushing back against these anti-vaxxers.
	But even as this is happening, don't lose sight of the fact, as I mentioned yesterday, somebody else said, well, it looks like these things are rolling out.
	Yes, I talked about it last week.
	The U.S. government, the Biden regime, we can credit Biden for this because it's Biden.
	Now, if it was Trump that was doing it, oh, it wouldn't be Trump.
	It would be somebody else who is doing it.
	Somebody else who is not doing the bidding of Trump, obviously.
	No, these people, it's the Biden administration, is giving rules and money to 100 countries.
	There's only, I think, about 160 or 170 countries that are out there, something like that.
	So this is going to be probably the smallest, the poorest countries.
	They're going to bribe them.
	That's the tactic. That's the way these people operate.
	Just like I said, Trump bribed the states and counties to do this stuff.
	Now, Biden is bribing foreign countries to put in the pandemic treaty.
	That's the way this works.
	And this is going to continue to happen until the American empire gets its credit card canceled by de-dollarization.
	And I can't wait for it.
	I know it's going to be a tremendous burden for us, but it's time.
	It's time. We have to pay that price.
	And it will be a price to pay.
	Literally. But that's its power center.
	The Federal Reserve. If we can't end the Fed, they're going to end the dollar.
	Just by overplaying their hand.
	Just because they're so drunk with power.
	Again, you know, Tony Arterman, DavidKnight.gold.
	If you want to get out of the dollar, get some of your money out of the dollar, out of that system.
	You can go to DavidKnight.gold, take you to Tony Arterman, Wise Wolf Gold.
	He sells gold and silver, small or large quantities.
	He also has a way that you can accumulate on a regular basis, the Wolf Pack.
	You can sign up, $50 on up.
	And gradually accumulate each month in a savings program, gold and silver, and get the advantage of a group buy.
	He's got over 1,000 people in that now.
	And then, of course, he can even help you if you've got a retirement plan.
	They just approved the MRNA. They just approved the MRNA shot for RSV for people who are 60 or older.
	See, they've got a retirement issue coming up.
	And they got a funding problem with Medicare.
	They got a funding problem with Social Security.
	They're going to raise the taxes, most likely on raise the price of Medicare by changing the structure of it next year after the election.
	But they can't afford it even with that, unless they get rid of more elderly people.
	So let's have some more vaccines that are untested.
	We're just running these things. And only for our beloved elderly people, 60 and over.
	They want to kill us so that we don't get any of this stuff.
	Every time I see this stuff, I say to Karen, I said, you remember when we were in our 20s, I said, I'm more likely to see a UFO, which I don't believe in, still don't.
	I'm more likely to see a UFO than I am to get any money from Social Security.
	And the majority of people at that time were saying that as well.
	It's starting to come true here, I think.
	Anyway, let's talk a little bit more about what Tedros had to say.
	Director General, of course, of the World Health Organization, so-called.
	And here is what he had to say about those horrible anti-vaxxers.
	More than 14 million children in 2022 did not receive a single dose of vaccine.
	Good. Working together with partners like Gavi and UNICEF, we aim to have that number by 2030.
	But you know the serious challenge that's posed by anti-vaxxers.
	And I think we need to strategize to really push back because vaccines work.
	Vaccines affect adults.
	And we have science, evidence on our side.
	I think it's time to be more aggressive in pushing back on anti-vaxxers.
	I think they use COVID as an opportunity and, you know, all the havoc they're creating.
	Yeah, well, you know, if science is on his side, then they don't have to censor us, do they?
	If science is on your side, you should easily be able to win this debate.
	But that's not the way they're going to go.
	As a matter of fact, you know, he talks about these anti-vaxxers out there.
	You noticed also, didn't you?
	He's saying, well, we've got to work with Gavi.
	He likes the same people that Trump likes.
	Isn't that funny? They're like on the same team.
	Trump likes Gavi and Bill Gates, and Tedros likes Gavi and Bill Gates.
	They're both getting money from his organizations.
	Trump got money from pharmaceutical companies and these other things, and Tedros is funded by Gavi.
	Yeah, we can do Gavi.
	They're all on the same team, folks.
	It's phony. It's just like Trump being there as an anti-globalist is just like Fauci's wife being there to make sure that ethics are followed at the NIAID. Ethics?
	I never saw any ethics there.
	It's the guy who's been there for 26 years.
	Here's Tedros. When asked about whether or not he had been vaccinated with the Trump shots.
	Tedros, thank you so much for taking the time to be with me.
	Thank you. Thank you for having me.
	I want to ask you about your own vaccination.
	You got your first shot when?
	You know, still I feel like I know where I belong.
	In a poor country called Ethiopia.
	In a poor continent called Africa.
	And wanted to wait until Africa and other countries in other regions, low-income countries, start vaccination.
	So I was protesting in other words.
	He's not elitist at all.
	Yeah, this Marxist politician from Ethiopia.
	Yeah, he's not elitist.
	I'm poor. I'm black.
	Give me a break. I didn't get the vaccine.
	I'm standing with my poor black fellows there.
	Yeah, you fall for that.
	So, yeah, we've got to push back on these anti-vaxxers, he said.
	I think they used COVID as an opportunity, and you know all the havoc they are creating.
	Hey, you haven't seen anything yet, pal.
	You start vaccinating our food and you want to see some havoc?
	People get hungry? That's when this starts happening.
	Abortion-tainted COVID shots.
	Yeah, that's what he's been pushing.
	And, of course, also with beagles and the transhumanized mice and all the rest of the stuff.
	Both Gavi and the WHO get hundreds of millions of dollars in funding.
	From the Gates Foundation every year.
	Every year. Well, we're going to take a break.
	And before we do, on Rockfin, Michelle Obama, thank you for the tip.
	It writes, have some decency, David.
	Please black out Fauci's face for your audience's own well-being.
	I can't take seeing him anymore.
	Sorry. It's important for us to stare into the abyss.
	So we have to do that today.
	On Rock Fan, Octo Spook.
	Alex Jones is the high priest of the Church of Trump.
	Yeah, it certainly has been.
	It certainly has been. But it's a growing church.
	It truly is.
	It's amazing how it is growing by leaps and bounds.
	Making obscene amounts of money.
	$200 million in the last week based on his felony convictions.
	Babylon Bee even had a clip.
	They said... Biden calls up his own Justice Department and says, can you guys indict me for a couple of things?
	I really need some more cash.
	A victim. I'm a victim of the feds.
	And of course, that's laughable because we know that the feds, the Department of Justice and the deep state and all these people, you know, the intelligence community, all of them obviously work for Biden.
	Except that if it was Trump, oh no, they don't work for Trump.
	They work for Biden, but they don't work for Trump.
	They are on their own.
	And he has absolutely nothing to do with it.
	We'll be right back. Using free speech to free minds.
	It's the David Knight Show.
	You know, I will say one more thing.
	When MTG was coming after Fauci, one of the things that she did was to put up pictures of Of what he had done with the beagles.
	I'm looking to see if I've got...
	Yeah, here we go. There's Fauci and his beagle experiments.
	Remember that? He doped up these dogs and then he shot them with a vaccine.
	Then he stuck their heads in these boxes that were filled with these biting flies that were carrying a disease.
	And of course, none of this was necessary.
	He paid the NIAID, paid $424,000 to inject these beagle puppies with the vaccine, then a trap them and their head in a box, have sand flies biting and infecting them before they then killed the dogs.
	He funded that.
	The outrage was supercharged at the time.
	Bipartisan letter signed by 24 members of Congress that questioned the agency's funding of medical research on dogs.
	Fauci's response to MTG when she held this up.
	What do dogs have to do with anything we're talking about here today, right?
	What a piece of work he is.
	Isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing?
	It truly is. And of course, I'll tell you what they have to do with what they're talking about today.
	At the same time this is happening, yesterday, yesterday, while she's showing the pictures of the beagles, okay, animal breeder Envigo fined a record $35 million over mistreating thousands of beagles.
	Now, this breeder, this is not a, you know, they used to have these pet animals, Pet mills that they would do, right?
	I remember when we were in college, and we were not even enough.
	I think I bought it, and Karen kept the dog, you know, at her apartment.
	But we actually got a dog from one of these places that was in the mall.
	We didn't know any better. You know, we were young college kids.
	We thought it was cute. That's what they do.
	They put these dogs... You know, in the stores in the mall, and you'd see the puppies there.
	And eventually, you would wind up buying one.
	They couldn't resist.
	But they were bred in a puppy mill.
	He had all kinds of health problems.
	Poor thing. And...
	It was a little Scottish terrier, and he had big mule ears.
	I mean, it was funny.
	He got an ear infection at one point in time, and the doctor painted his ears white with this antibiotic cream or something like that.
	And he also had an issue, a bit of an issue with his hip.
	And so when he would run, he hopped like Pepe Le Pew, one of the guys that I was in college with, just...
	He would roll on the floor laughing when he saw him.
	When he'd get excited, he would just start hopping.
	He couldn't run. And so he's hopping across the front lawn with these big mule ears that are painted white.
	But, you know, that was because of bad breeding in a lot of these cases.
	And they shut down these puppy mills.
	So what is...
	In Vigo. Well, it's a puppy mill, but it's a puppy mill not to sell the puppies in the malls to susceptible kids, but it's there to breed puppies for experiments for the pharmaceutical people.
	You know, going back to this ethics thing, you know?
	Yeah, what do dogs got to do with anything here?
	Well, it's ethics. Do you know what that is, Fauci?
	Ethics? No, he doesn't know what that is.
	Record fine, by the way.
	For something like this, Envigo is a subsidiary of a pharmaceutical company called Enotiv.
	They pleaded guilty to conspiring to violate the Animal Welfare Act and conspiring to violate the Clean Water Act, said the Justice Department.
	They also euthanized dogs without anesthesia.
	And guess what? These dogs are beagles!
	Is this where Fauci, you know, spent $24,000?
	Did he do that, you know, to torture these beagle puppies?
	Did he get it from this pharmaceutical company that's breeding beagles?
	Are they breeding the beagles for these things?
	I don't know, but I think it's likely that that was the case.
	As part of the plea agreement, Envigo will be barred from breeding dogs and will be placed on probation for up to five years.
	But I guess they'll still be able to use the dogs for experimentation like Fauci does, right?
	$35 million was what they got fined.
	And so, $2 million fines, the largest ever penalty by the Justice Department in an animal welfare case.
	So, two $11 million fines.
	That's $22 million of it.
	And then there was some more punitive stuff to...
	Tell them they had to improve their facilities, they had to fund some animal abuse, anti-animal abuse corporations that are out there, organizations, because I guess they're pro-animal abuse, being pharmaceutical companies.
	The Justice Department opened an investigation into Invigo in 2022 after inspections from federal regulators found the company failed to provide adequate care for beagles at its breeding facility.
	Why isn't there any fine for Fauci or for an AID for what they did to the beagles?
	You know, they're talking about these dogs being kept in conditions where they're too crowded, where there's no air conditioning, they're too hot, and all this other kind of stuff.
	Nothing compares to what Fauci did with his experiments.
	So they subsequently surrendered more than 4,000 beagles to the Justice Department.
	That then dispersed the dogs to various animal rescue organizations.
	So I guess if you want a beagle, you can get one.
	Actually, the man formerly known as Prince and his wicked witch, Megan, they actually adopted one of these.
	Look, it's sick, it's disgusting what Fauci's pharmaceutical companies are doing to beagles.
	But as I said at the time, what they do to baby humans is even worse.
	And so if you go back to 2020, when all this stuff was going, in July of 2020, and it still wasn't enough to stop Fauci, it still wasn't enough to stop the FDA, as we started seeing documents at that time, this is an older article.
	Again, this article is from July 2020, since we're going back to look at And what Fauci and these government bureaucracies are capable of.
	Newly uncovered documents in July of 2020 showed that the FDA spent nearly $100,000 on baby body parts so they could make humanized mice.
	I've covered this extensively.
	I covered it at the time.
	And subsequent to that discovery that the FDA was paying $100,000 to do this.
	We also learned because...
	First, Lala Harris as Attorney General of California.
	Then when she became a senator, you had Javier Becerra came after David Daleiden and the Center for Medical Progress because, remember, in that sting, they exposed the trafficking in body parts.
	And now, you know, Javier Becerra is the head of HHS, which is the head of the NIH and the head of the NIAID.
	She's vice president. And as this is all rolling out and they're coming after the Center for Medical Progress and David Daleiden, they went back and did discovery. And they found that it wasn't just the FDA, which is what they're talking about here in this July 2020 article, but it was also FACCI and his NIAID that was working with the University of Pittsburgh.
	They were coming up, well, I need this kind of part, and I need that kind of part, so I want you to go procure that.
	Get that from Planned Parenthood.
	Murder for Hire.
	And it was murder. In 2018, journalists discovered documents showing that the FDA conducted experiments using the bodies of babies killed in abortion to produce humanized mice.
	But this is not an abortion where the babies are just, well, you know, the mom wanted us to kill the baby, so we did it.
	That's a good thing, isn't it?
	No, that wasn't what it was.
	The contract required that the baby parts be fresh, not frozen.
	Talk about how ghoulish this is.
	What does that mean? That means that they're there.
	That they scheduled it.
	That means that Planned Parenthood knew that this was going to happen.
	They call up the people who are going to use these organs.
	We got somebody that you're going to be interested in.
	We're going to procure those body parts from that baby.
	It's a contract kill.
	And they make sure that they don't rip that baby apart inside the womb.
	They make sure they rip the baby apart outside of the womb so they can not damage the fresh, not frozen parts.
	So then they can hurry them off and do their other ghoulish experiments, combining them, you know, grafting them into mice to make humanized mice for more experiments.
	Years later, further evidence has emerged showing the full extent of the purchase of body parts of aborted babies and the unethical experimentation committed using taxpayer dollars.
	The characteristics of the baby body parts, like I said, they had to be age range of 16 to 24 weeks.
	The tissue must be fresh, never frozen.
	That means that they are there on the premises to harvest it.
	That also means, as we've been, as we've talked about in the past, they're not going to harm the baby with any toxic chemicals.
	They're not gonna burn the baby as they typically do with these abortions or rip them apart as they typically do with these abortions.
	Delivered alive, killed by surgery.
	which they rip the babies apart inside the mother typically.
	This time they do it outside.
	These documents are a horror show, said Judicial Watch.
	These records show the FDA was trafficking in human fetal parts.
	Incredibly, there continues to be a push to reopen these monstrous experiments, even now.
	The NIH also paid the company that was doing this, ABR, for similar humanized mice experiments.
	And in Texas, at least four medical schools paid for the body parts of aborted babies to conduct unethical experiments using taxpayer dollars, as reported by Texas Right to Life.
	Now, subsequent to this, we found out about the University of Pittsburgh.
	And Fauci's direct involvement in all of this.
	These people are capable of anything.
	That's the bottom line, the takeaway from all this.
	Well, we're going to take a quick break.
	When we come back, we've got a little bit more to talk about with what is happening with pharmaceuticals right now.
	We will be right back.
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	Yeah, I want to talk a little bit more about the pharmaceuticals, and of course it impinges on this pandemic that they're trying to create, the bird flu.
	I have another article here from a listener about that.
	I just want to thank Dustin Helm.
	Thank you for the tip on Rockfin.
	I want to remind people, please like the stream, wherever you're watching it, whenever you're watching it.
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	And also, if you go to Trends Journal, the excellent Trends magazine from Gerald Slenty, as he said, he doesn't do predictions.
	He looks trends. And he's been very, very accurate with that.
	You can't predict the exact timing of what's going to happen, but you can certainly look at the trends.
	And the timing is part of when you look at this year being the year for gold as he picked it.
	That certainly was...
	A good call from Gerald Slinty.
	Now, of course, when is it going to get even higher?
	You know, you have these other organizations like Bank of America or whatever.
	They'll predict, well, 2,700 by the end of the year or something like that.
	He doesn't make that kind of prediction.
	He looks at trends. 300 pages, excellent magazine, and...
	Hyperlinked. You can save 10% at Trends Journal if you use the code NIGHT. All right, so let's talk a little bit about this letter coming from a listener, Madra.
	She says, isn't it convenient that the government makes up an illness that cannot be proved, cannot be tested?
	Forget the PCR test where they can find flu and a piece of fruit.
	Their cure is death.
	That's right, we've got to kill all the animals.
	And, you know, the cure was really death for us as well.
	And as I pointed out yesterday, this is beyond the quantitative PCR. We've got a new technique now, digital PCR. And it magnifies it even more than their 40 cycles, magnifying things 1.1 trillion times.
	So she said, invisible, or he, I'm not sure, I think it's a lady, invisible diseases, and you have to take their word for it.
	Because they won't show you the proof.
	They will, however, wipe out your animals, your livestock, your poultry, and humans.
	Don't forget the humans that they killed with injections and said, well, at least they didn't get COVID. That really happened.
	We reported that. Do you also remember that they were injecting animals and zoo animals for COVID? She said, so you take a look at this, 40 million chickens slaughtered for nothing?
	Well, actually, over the last two years, it's been over 90 million.
	So that means 40 million eggs that won't be produced.
	And by the way, folks, that's every day, pretty much.
	It varies based on the breed, but a good egg-laying breed, which is what they would have for commercial egg production, will do 300 eggs a year.
	That's almost one every day.
	So you're losing 90 million eggs a day.
	And then she talked about, so what does that mean for our food supply?
	Think about all the things that eggs are in.
	Think about all the things that are made with eggs.
	No eggs, no pasta, she said.
	No spaghetti, no noodles, no donuts or baking goods, as they need eggs as well.
	Not even any McDonald's breakfast egg McNuggets.
	And then there's cows, right?
	First of all, when you kill the chickens, it's going to take about a year before they can recoup that, recoup it, before the chicken starts to lay eggs.
	And then you take the cows.
	They start killing cows. Over these ridiculous PCR tests?
	Over this fake pandemic?
	And it is fake. Every bit of this is fake.
	They got people with pink eye.
	They're working on a dairy farm.
	You touch your eyes, rub your eyes with something, you're going to get pink eye.
	It's an infection. But anyway, the cows take two years before they begin to produce milk.
	So two years of growth.
	You're going to go without milk.
	You're going to go a year without replacing these chickens.
	So... Without milk, you're not going to have any butter.
	You're not going to have cream.
	You're not going to have yogurt.
	You're not going to have cottage cheese.
	You're not going to have cheese of any kind except the synthetic stuff.
	You're not going to have eggs because you don't have any cake.
	You're not going to have cake because you don't have any eggs.
	You're going to have no ice cream.
	Look at almost any package and read the ingredients if it says eggs and milk.
	They're going after the fundamental things.
	And, you know, claiming that some of the most common non-serious diseases are what we have to destroy our food supply for.
	Conjunctivitis, seriously.
	No fever, no respiratory congestion.
	And then, you know, one of the things she didn't mention, I thought about it, I thought, you know, when you kill all these chickens and you kill all these cows.
	Now, Some of these are gigantic operations.
	And when I was talking about that New Zealand guy, the beekeeper, they said, well, we found some spores.
	And so we're going to destroy $2 million worth of boxes.
	And that was a big deal, big hit for him.
	But he also puts out a couple of tons of Manuka honey every year.
	That stuff is very expensive, especially the medical grade stuff.
	And so he's got a big business.
	You know, he didn't say anywhere that it was going to put him out of business.
	But how many farmers, how many beekeepers could they put out of business like that?
	How many farmers have enough cows and enough chickens that if they take out entire herds and entire flocks, is it going to put these people out of business?
	Well, it will, the smaller ones.
	See, the part of this is that, you know, the other part of this besides destroying our food supply It's to make sure that only the big guys survive.
	Because only the big guys can take a hit and have, you know, 90 million chickens destroyed and they're still in business.
	You come in and you've got one flock.
	They come in and they ramp this thing up and say, well, you got a bird.
	I know it's not sick, but it failed our PCR test or we got a positive, so to speak.
	So we're going to have to kill your entire flock.
	I've only got one flock. Sorry, got to kill them all.
	That's what they're really after.
	They're after the small farmer.
	That's why they made such a big deal about raw milk with bird flu.
	They're not testing the eggs, like I said.
	They're not testing the chicken meat.
	They're testing milk.
	They're testing cattle.
	They're testing water.
	And they're hyping those results by putting it in a centrifuge at 100,000 RPM, as the guy was talking about it as a preliminary.
	So she said, or yeah, it is a she.
	It's Terry.
	How long are people going to take it?
	So look at the Trump that people worship as a God.
	The same man who wiped out their life and livelihood told them, stay home and take your shot.
	I created the shot.
	Oh, well, okay. It's good then.
	You know, for 20 years, Alex would tell people, don't take the childhood vaccines.
	They've got mercury. They've got formaldehyde.
	They've got all these other adjuvants in there.
	Then he says, well, you know, you take the Trump shot at sugar water.
	Yeah, it's going to have the adjuvants in there, but that's okay now, right?
	Just do it for Trump. Proud of his clot shot that murdered tens of thousands of people, if not millions, and with the media covering up, she says, we'll never know.
	All we'll get from Congress is a day of rage at Fauci.
	No laws, no funding restrictions, nothing.
	Just a performance.
	So this was sent to me by another listener.
	He said, I saw on Twitter the exchange that you had yesterday.
	It's amazing, isn't it? These people fail to see or to understand what was done to them during the past four years.
	Again, you even show them, and they won't believe their eyes or their ears.
	So he said, please also review Trump's relationship.
	With Larry Fink. You know, the ESG guy?
	Yeah, the big hedge fund company that's controlling everybody with ESG. Well, Trump's got a relationship with him as well.
	During the last year of his administration, BlackRock has invested substantially in Pfizer, and of course, in Trump as well.
	So, when we look at the vaccine, and what is happening with it, hang on just one second, the As I mentioned before, Fauci's NIAID got...
	And you see this in various headlines.
	I thought this was kind of strange. Some of them would say $710 million.
	Some of them would say $690 million.
	Which is it? I mean, that's...
	I know we're only talking about $20 million, and that's just a round-off error in Washington.
	But why the discrepancy?
	Well, the $710 million...
	What's the total that they got?
	The $690 million was the part of the royalty payments that were kept secret, kept hidden.
	And it was exposed by an organization called Open the Books.
	And they had to sue Fauci's organization for two years to get them to comply with the law.
	Because none of these organizations will ever comply with the Freedom of Information Act.
	They always refuse. And so you have to go through a two-year process of suing them to finally get them to give up the information.
	That's standard operating procedure.
	What does that tell you about the bureaucracy and how out of control it is?
	And yet, Congress will do nothing but hold show hearings and theatrically yell at these people.
	That's it. And they show up, you know, and it's like they throw stuff at them and Yes, Congressman, okay, how much longer is this going to be?
	Okay, let's get back to grifting money from everybody.
	So 97% of the money, and we're talking about $710 million, 97% of that was hidden, secret royalties.
	And they really ramped it up.
	You know, they were getting, if you look at the charge, see if you can pull up this chart there, Travis.
	The royalty payments to Fauci's NIAID Institute.
	This is in the pharmaceutical stuff today.
	So they're going back and forth around a million dollars.
	Sometimes a little over a million dollars, sometimes just under a million dollars.
	That's what they're getting in royalty payments going back to 2009.
	Until, until they got to 2022.
	Scroll down a little bit. And look at that.
	Boom! Shoots way up.
	And that's when they collected all the money, all at once.
	As, you know, Fauci's heading out the door.
	In 2022 and 2023, pharmaceutical and healthcare companies paid the NIH. And, of course, it's not just Fauci that's leaving.
	It's Francis Collins as well.
	They paid them a sum of $710 million in third-party royalties.
	These were payments to the NIH as leadership and scientists by healthcare entities licensing inventions that were created in federal taxpayer-paid labs.
	You see, just like Trump, it's always been the case that the taxpayers pay for these things to be developed.
	The bureaucrats then file patent claims on it.
	They hand these things over for royalty payments to the companies that are going to manufacture them, like Pfizer, Moderna, and others.
	And then when they manufacture this stuff that these scientists developed with taxpayer funding and taxpayer-paid labs, when all this stuff is happening, they do a kickback to the scientists themselves, not even to the institution.
	We don't even get to recoup some of the cost of this bureaucracy, which is...
	Incredibly expensive. The two-year average of such payments over the prior decade was less than $5 million.
	And then they had an increase of more than 175 times.
	175 times.
	So, it was an extreme cash haul at Fauci's Institute.
	Between 2009 and 2021, OpenTheBooks.com, the organization that is doing this investigation, previously reported that $325 million was paid to all NIH institutes, but Fauci's NIAID received $23.9 million of that, or an average of $2 million per year.
	That's what we were just showing in the previous chart.
	NIH and NAID wasted countless taxpayer dollars illegally resisting this requirement, fighting them in court over the FOIA request.
	And they said the reason that they did this was because we found that the next two years, so they gave them data from 2009 to 2021, and they wouldn't give them 2022 and 2023 because that's when it really exploded.
	So after a two-year fight, they get that information.
	Fauci's Institute collected the equivalent of 175 years in royalty payments all at once.
	Nearly $690 million in just two years.
	Versus the $24 million that have been paid over 12 years.
	Maybe Trump should have fired him for something.
	You know, don't you think he should have fired him, maybe?
	Think of all the money that we could have saved.
	But instead, Trump kept him along, gave him a medal.
	They said, opened the book, said, we had to sue NIH twice in federal court over their royalty payments database using judicial watch.
	As a partner and as a council, it's been a two-and-a-half-year battle to get this information from the NIH. And then we look at who are these companies that are paying?
	Well, 11 top companies are making royalty payments to Fauci's NIAID. Some of them were the biggest of the bigs, like Merck, And GlaxoSmithKline.
	But it said other notable companies include state-owned Chinese vaccine developer, Changcheng, and China National Biotech Group.
	And then an intranasal vaccine developer.
	They want to shoot this stuff up your nose.
	You think all of that swab, that long swab that'd stick up people's nose?
	Think that was necessary?
	Of course it wasn't. It was training.
	And as a matter of fact, I talked about it that summer of 2020 when they had the Cannes Film Festival.
	And... They allowed them, as they were invading everybody else, with these swabs and stuff.
	And you know, the Chinese were having fun with this.
	For the U.S. Embassy personnel, they decided they would give them anal swabs, not nasal swabs.
	Bend over! And it was just a humiliation process.
	But all this stuff was a humiliation process.
	The nasal stuff was a humiliation process.
	Because when it came to the Cannes Film Festival and all these spoiled and rich movie star celebrities went to the Cannes Film Festival that summer.
	And of course, they made sure that they were going to delay the lockdown of being able to go anywhere, do anything if you didn't have a vaccine passport.
	We'll do that after the Cannes Film Festival.
	So after the Cannes Film Festival ended, Emmanuel Macron instituted that restriction.
	But for these people who showed up, They didn't put the thing up their nose or other places.
	They had them spit into a thing that they then tested.
	And we know about it because these people were complaining about it.
	How disgusting did I have to spit in this receptacle?
	It's like, well, could be worse.
	You could get the Klaus Schwab swab.
	I guess that's what we call it.
	Just this list right here.
	A Chinese state-owned company and all the rest.
	Just this list raises all kinds of potential conflict of interest questions such as how much money did the Chinese state-owned vaccine developers pay Fauci and the NIH? On third-party royalties during that period.
	You know, forget about all this Wuhan lab leak stuff, folks.
	Follow the money on this thing.
	So they are still trying to hide some information.
	They're still pushing to try to collect some of this stuff.
	All I can say is that, you know, this drug father who loves to talk about how he's going to coerce people into doing this stuff.
	If ever there was a case for a RICO investigation, This organization is it.
	It is it.
	Moderna did settle litigation with NIH in February 2023 for a $400 million payment for their licensing of vaccine technologies.
	But it's unknown if any of these funds are reflected in our data because they really don't want you to see it.
	Again, why are you hiding this stuff if you are doing everything above board?
	And then, of course, conflict of interest.
	Fauci's wife, head of ethics, should have had something to say about it.
	Between 2018 and 2023, 44 scientists at NIH received royalty payments from Moderna.
	One of them was Dr.
	John Mascola, who joined the NIH in 2000 and since 2013 directed the Vaccine Research Center, an office under Fauci's NIAID. In other words, he was Fauci's vaccine maker.
	And so these scientists who are supposedly working for you, working for the taxpayer, working for the government, are actually using your money to create things that they sell to the vaccine companies and then they take the royalties themselves.
	And the response from Reason about all this I thought was kind of amazing in terms of its myopia.
	They said, well, the COVID-19 vaccines should not have been free.
	What? See, the libertarians sometimes only see the money.
	They can't see the forest for the trees.
	They can't see what is going on here.
	This is way beyond mere regulatory capture what happened here.
	This is, you know, this is a corporate government merger.
	It's absolute corruption, and they can't see that in all of this.
	To correct these errors for future pandemic responses, says Reason.
	For future pandemic responses, I don't think we want to have any future pandemic responses from government, do we?
	That's the very thing we need to stop.
	We need to stop them from ever doing anything like this.
	But Reason says, well, how can we make this work better?
	I know. We will have a financial reward and punishment thing, or we'll have the consumers make the decisions on this kind of stuff.
	No. They said they got a couple of people here that wrote a paper.
	They recommend performing larger vaccine trials and collecting better data.
	Are you kidding me? These are the people that reason.
	And the libertarians were pushing this vaccine stuff.
	They really were. And a lot of these things.
	You think there was testing reason?
	You better go back and do a little bit of research.
	There was no testing.
	That's how Trump got this stuff out so quick.
	There was no testing. And it's naive to say, well, we're going to have better data.
	There was no data. They hide everything, especially the royalties and the money that they're making.
	A new COVID study is showing that myocarditis and pericarditis only appear after vaccination.
	See, that was the other thing they were saying.
	Yeah, yeah, we got myocarditis, but it's really...
	And I think it's from COVID itself.
	No, it only showed up, we could tell from the time that it showed up, what it was from.
	And we could see what people were dying.
	He had a big increase that first year because Trump medical death protocols in the hospitals were killing people.
	But then it exploded when his shots went out.
	So he looked at adolescents between the ages of 5 and 11 and 12 and 15.
	Myocarditis and pericarditis events during the study period occurred only in vaccinated individuals.
	And they preface it by saying, while rare.
	Don't talk to me about rare.
	You know what? Is it any consolation to you if you are disabled for life and they tell you that it's rare?
	Or your family member is killed and they tell you that it's rare?
	Do you trust any of their statistics on this stuff?
	Gradually they're moving us to the truth.
	But we're not going to see the truth for a very, very long time.
	And again, as I said before, we've got the FDA just green lighting another mRNA shot, this one from Moderna, because everything that Moderna was set up to do was to do mRNA.
	Originally, they pronounced their name Mode RNA, meaning that they were going to focus on mRNA.
	And so this is for RSV, and it is only for people who are 60 years old and older.
	And I said, no, what this is really about, this is about fixing Social Security and Medicare.
	But the FDA proved this, again, without any testing.
	Moderna were the makers of those infamous mRNA COVID shots ordered by government and corporations onto tens of millions of Americans.
	They're now proven to trigger fatal heart ailments.
	This is from WND. Says the FDA has now officially approved yet another of its mRNA treatments.
	And so, you know, just, I think we need to have a new motto for this stuff, right?
	The FDA's new motto.
	No tests, no studies.
	Use it and find out, right?
	Yeah. Just use it and find out.
	That's what should be on the labels.
	You know, the insert. They were sending out blank inserts for the vaccine.
	It should say, use it and find out.
	Let us know. Does this work for you, Jedi?
	Maybe we call it UFOs.
	Untested federal obligations.
	That would be a good name for the future vaccines that are going to be coming out.
	Untested federal obligations.
	Because I don't want to use the term UFO anymore.
	They're going to come up with some other acronym because everybody laughs at the UFO. So UFO is available.
	It can now be untested federal obligations.
	We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
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	Well, I mentioned yesterday, I said, you know, there's a novel approach towards peace.
	And I saw this article, and I thought, this really is true, if we stop and think about it.
	Christian revival in Iran.
	The answer to today's Mideast conflict.
	Bingo. I really think that that would, you know, when we look at it, how...
	How faithless is it of us to think that God doesn't change hearts, doesn't change minds, can't change a country?
	And how does he do that?
	How does he do that? Well, he makes peace with people, turns them to Christ, who makes peace between God and man.
	And then what happens is you wind up with more peace between men.
	You don't have any peace with God.
	You're not going to have peace between men.
	And as I point out in this article, they said that when you look at what is happening in Iran, and, you know, we go back to the 50s where there was a CIA coup, and then they installed the Shah who ruled for a couple of decades.
	We got very ruthless because of his secret police that had been the same CIA that overthrew the other government.
	Said, okay, we're going to let you set up the sabacc, and here's how you do this.
	An incredibly repressive regime under the Shah.
	And so the blowback put in the Ayatollah, these radical Islamicists, and the people there have been suffering under it.
	In 1976, the Christian population of Iran was about 170,000.
	In 1999, that number was believed to have grown to over 300,000, even though the punishment is unbelievably harsh for Christians who are discovered.
	But some people believe that it's between 1 million and 3 million in the population of almost 87 million.
	That could be 1.1% to 3.4%.
	But human rights groups have reported that Christians, particularly those who have converted to Christianity from Islam, are severely oppressed.
	They can only practice their faith secretly in the so-called house churches.
	And, you know, I think it is kind of interesting.
	When you look at that, it seems like persecution is God's way of growing the church, isn't it?
	I mean, even from the beginning of Acts.
	Everything was just great, and everybody was together, and they were sharing everything, and then the persecution came, and they scattered out.
	But God uses persecution in different ways.
	A couple of these people said one exiled Iranian Christian leader said recently that he thinks six out of every ten Iranians are prepared to become Christians.
	They're not Christians, but they're really fed up with this radical Islamic group.
	And so, you know, we had with the CIA, we had a blowback against the Shah.
	And now after people have experienced the rule of the Ayatollahs, there is a possibility for blowback against that.
	The astonishing wave of Christianity was confirmed last week in an interview that WND had with a Christian who converted from Islam.
	She prefers to be called Marzi, an Iranian-American who immigrated to the U.S. after being sentenced to death by hanging in Iran for the crime of converting to Christianity.
	She said when she was in an Iranian prison in 2009, she said, I was praying to God asking why he didn't destroy these cruel criminals who were torturing and executing my people.
	God told me in a dream that he was giving me an opportunity.
	He was giving an opportunity to these people to repent.
	But if they don't, I'm going to destroy them all.
	When I learned of my friend's death, I realized, I'm sorry, not a friend's death.
	It was the general that was killed.
	I realized that's what happened.
	That that is God's justice.
	So against all odds, she was born into a Muslim family.
	She became a Christian in Iran.
	So I lived in Iran for 33 years.
	I became a Christian more than 20 years ago.
	I served the Lord there for almost five years before I got arrested.
	I have lots of experience of sharing my faith, sharing Jesus and the Bible, and many other Iranians I was evangelizing.
	I connected with thousands of Iranians.
	Honestly, the majority of the Iranians were open and receptive.
	I can honestly say that I never even had one bad experience with them.
	It was the Islamic regime that was there.
	She said, and what's interesting about it, she said Iranians, because they're Persian, We're good to go.
	By these radical Muslims.
	That's why that one guy said six out of ten of them are open to Christianity because they don't like the Muslim regime that is there.
	She said there's many churches in Iran.
	We don't know exactly how many, but based on research by some Christian ministries, Iran has the fastest growing churches in the world.
	You see this in China and Iran, the home churches, the persecution.
	That's God's plan for growth.
	And so, you know, forget about seeker-friendly churches, folks.
	If you want to see the growth of Christianity instead of the soft, impotent type of stuff that we've got now in America, that's going to come from persecution.
	Not to say that you should run away from that, but a hostile government is the way that God produces growth.
	We see that in history.
	We see it even in the Bible, in church history in the Bible.
	She said, I'm a proud American right now, but I don't.
	But I see how they brainwashed the youth in this country with radical Islam.
	So I see all these people out there protesting.
	They're waving the flag of Hezbollah and Hamas.
	They're burning their own flag.
	So that makes me very concerned because it reminds me of exactly what happened in Iran in 1979.
	Many students went to the streets, rioting and looting in the name of socialism, Marxism, communism.
	They supported a fanatic Muslim Khomeini.
	It's now been more than 40 years and they are suffering.
	And again, why did they do that?
	Why did they go in that direction?
	Well, because of the association of the Shah with America, and rightfully so.
	I mean, he was installed by the CIA, and the CIA trained his brutal regime, and so people wanted to reject and go as far away from that as they could.
	When we talk about suffering, though, sometimes that happens on an individual basis.
	There's a very interesting story of this baby here who was not aborted.
	Take a look at that little kid in the middle there.
	What a cute kid that is.
	And this is a story from Mother said, Doctors pressured us to abort at every visit until one doctor spoke words of hope that we'll never forget.
	She said people say congratulations when you're pregnant and how far along are you?
	Is it a boy or a girl? Well, I know it doesn't really matter as long as the baby is healthy.
	And we all say that, right?
	She said a healthy baby. Little did they know that I wasn't carrying the healthy baby that they were talking about.
	This well-meaning statement got me thinking, have we reached a point where we glorify health more than we honor life itself?
	She said, at our 20-week anatomy ultrasound, my husband and I learned that our youngest son had a lower urinary tract obstruction, which affected multiple body systems.
	He had no amniotic fluid, his lungs were underdeveloped, his kidneys were severely damaged, and his abdominal muscles were compromised.
	His case was so severe that he was given little to no chance of surviving.
	You know, I looked at this, and just reading the story about the Iranian persecution, reading this story, it reminded me of what C.S. Lewis had to say.
	He said, you know, God's love is not just a sentimental feeling, but it is a decision that God makes, a deliberate choice to love us, to shape us, to mold us into the image of Christ.
	God will not leave us as we are, but will use whatever means, especially pain, to mold us.
	He also spoke about how you can sometimes, as God is, you know, molding us, making us what he wants to be, you can feel the pain as if it were a chisel.
	That is knocking away the things that are not the statue.
	I forget who it was that said that.
	I said, well, how do you do a sculpture like that?
	Well, first of all, you just take everything that's not that object that you want.
	You remove all that extra rock away.
	One of my favorite sculptures was in Florence, I think, where they have the David.
	I'm not a big fan of that.
	I I think it's quite vulgar.
	But anyway, what is nice about that is they've got, I think it's like six or something, statues that line the way to that statue where they've got it in a house, right?
	A housing thing. And these statues on either side, they call it the Titans, and it looks like they are trying to pull themselves up out of the rocks.
	I thought it was one of the best statues I've ever seen.
	Like I said, four to six of them are there along the side of it.
	And I think about that when I think of what C.S. Lewis said.
	Now, in that statue, they're pulling themselves up by their own bootstrap.
	That's not the way that it's done with God.
	Anyway, this mother said, we were encouraged to consider aborting Michael at every appointment from that moment on.
	I never imagined being put in a situation where I would be encouraged to abort my child once, let alone countless times.
	The most unsettling part was a misguided notion of compassion.
	Everyone was extremely kind and caring while simultaneously suggesting I kill my unborn child due to his medical complexities, or if I thought it was too much for me to handle.
	Laden with fear, I could see how mothers would consider aborting amidst the half-truths and the deception that all suffering can and should be avoided.
	It was surreal to carry my unborn baby knowing that he might not live outside of my womb, but I cherished every minute of it my time with him.
	My job as his mother was, and as always will be, to love him through every moment of his life, including the difficult ones.
	We made sure that whatever interventions we chose, we were doing it for him and not to him.
	Fetal surgery was his only chance at survival, but the chances of surviving surgery in utero were only about 5%.
	As our hope began to fade, one physician told us something I would never forget.
	He said, someone has to be the 5%.
	Why can't it be Him? You know, my pastor once said something similar about that.
	He said, you know, God is not ruled by probabilities.
	He's not ruled by statistics.
	You know, Einstein said, God doesn't play dice with the universe.
	God controls everything in the universe.
	The probabilities and statistics don't mean anything with God.
	You know, somebody can tell you you've got a 5% chance of success.
	No, it's up to God. It's 100% up to God.
	Michael underwent his first successful fetal surgery, but a few days later my water broke, sending me into labor.
	The attending physician told me that it wasn't worth it for the NICU team to be present at Michael's delivery because he was too sick and there was nothing they could do to save him if he was born prematurely.
	They recommended that I deliver him that night and hold him until he died.
	She said perinatal hospital care can be a beautiful option, but we chose to give Michael one more fighting chance.
	If he was willing to fight for his life, so was I. I got medication that successfully stopped my contractions, but we were told that I would likely deliver Michael within the next seven to ten days.
	They said, make your funeral arrangements.
	She said, as a nurse myself, I had confidence in the medicine, but I also prayed with every fiber of my being that the doctors were wrong, as they usually are.
	She didn't say that.
	I did. But anyway, after surviving a difficult pregnancy, Michael went on to defy the odds again, overcoming kidney failure, respiratory failure, two different types of malignant cancers, and countless surgeries, all before his fourth birthday.
	We're told a lot of things at the beginning.
	We're told he wouldn't survive, that he'd never hear the sound of his voice.
	Pull that up and show people the picture of him there in his thing there.
	That's what he looks like today.
	He's got some kind of a contraption there.
	Maybe is that for breathing or something?
	I don't know. But, you know, he's a really happy kid.
	So we're told a lot of things at the beginning that he would not survive, that we would never hear the sound of his voice, that he would never talk, that he would never walk.
	That he would not be able to do much of anything.
	Michael has done everything that they said he would never do.
	But he's done it in his own way, in his own time.
	And even though he never did any of those, and even if he never did any of those things, the simple gift of life would have been enough.
	Today, his body is no longer failing.
	It's thriving after finally receiving a kidney transplant from my husband.
	It was an incredible gift to witness the privilege of a father joining his son in his fight for life in such a tangible way.
	Michael has complex medical needs.
	She said that are part of who he is, but they do not define him.
	He will never receive a bill of perfect health.
	But he is so much more than the countless diagnoses listed on his medical chart.
	His body has scars.
	But those scars tell his story.
	That's very true.
	Life is always worth fighting for, she says.
	Well, I want to say thank you to some of the people who have contributed to us.
	And Swanee, I got your note.
	Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
	The end of last week and over the weekend, thank you to Scott and Samantha T., to Felicia M., She is actually from Fairbanks, Alaska, and sent a very nice postcard that is here.
	Beautiful place there, a nice card.
	Thank you very much. And Clinton and Bethany D., Gonzalo and Susan M., and I have a letter from them, and I wanted to read part of that.
	This is the postcard from Alaska.
	It said, I was nine years old when my family left Cuba fleeing communism.
	It is a different place now, but it is still the same anti-human satanic belief system.
	That's right. It's just that we're starting to get symptoms of that coming here as well.
	Sherry M. Matthew H. Ken S. Anna, thank you very much.
	She sent me a very nice American flag.
	Here it is right here. Yeah, I mentioned the fact that they were all over Samuel Alito.
	For flying the flag upside down as distressed because of the election.
	I said, well, I think we ought to make that a tradition.
	After every one of the elections I've seen have been rigged in one way or the other.
	Rigged from the beginning in terms of ballot access.
	But I said, I've got to get a flag to fly it.
	And so she sent that to me.
	So thank you very much. I appreciate that, Anna.
	Now I have to get a poll. Don't send the poll.
	We'll take care of that.
	Thank you. Robert and Laura B. And I wanted to read this as well, especially with a story that we just had.
	This is from Rob and Laura.
	He says, My 14-year-old son Caleb is currently suffering from a Crohn's flare-up.
	It breaks my heart watching him suffer.
	I know this is a tough request as you have never met me or my son.
	However, I ask that you pray for my son and that he has the faith of Job and that he never turns his back or blames God for his suffering.
	Well, we have, Rob, and I wanted to read this to the audience because I'd like everybody to pray for Caleb.
	And that is, you know exactly what he needs, Rob.
	You know that he needs the faith and the patience of Job.
	He needs to have the eyes that can see this as a bigger picture.
	He needs to know that God works with us in our suffering.
	Some of the strongest people that I have known as anybody in the Christian faith or anywhere have been the people who have suffered the most.
	And as many have said, praise God for that.
	I know that the difficult times that we have gone through in our life have been the best times of our life.
	Because as God puts you through suffering, it also, if you run to Him, He will be there to meet you in that suffering.
	And so I just pray in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for your son And you can walk five hundred steps but not a single step more until the curfew Activates and all the cops and at your door
	I You
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	Well, on Rumble, A. Love says a friend was pregnant and bleeding.
	The doctor told her she would miscarry.
	She would not help her.
	She didn't have insurance either.
	And her child is now 10 years old.
	Yeah. Yeah, I often say doctors treat, but we understand that it is God who heals.
	And he can heal with or without a doctor.
	Sometimes it's a blessing that we don't have these.
	I mean, you look at it.
	Look at the people who were medically kidnapped, who, against the wishes of the patient, against the wishes of the family, were given these treatments that killed them.
	And on Rockford and Michelle Obama, thank you for the tip.
	You're doing it to us again, David.
	Please flip the magazine over.
	Okay, we'll flip it over. We won't talk about Fauci.
	Let's talk a little bit about cyberattacks.
	It was kind of interesting. Both of these things happened yesterday.
	Wall Street Journal had an article talking about how China is pre-positioning for future cyber attacks and the new NSA chief is worried.
	He said, we see it as very unique and different and also very concerning, he said in an interview with the Wall Street Journal.
	And this was put out there hours before something really weird happened at the New York Stock Exchange, which they have an explanation for.
	But, you know, it is kind of an interesting coincidence, isn't it?
	He's continuing with an unusual Chinese threat.
	He said, one that is designed not to extract military secrets or data of any kind, but to lurk in the infrastructure that undergirds civilian life, as if lying in wait for the right moment to unleash chaos.
	And of course, that is what we're seeing a lot of.
	You know, we're seeing the Russian-Ukrainian thing.
	We see both of them attacking each other's infrastructure that's there.
	And we've had attacks here in the United States.
	One of them, they openly admitted, was a cyber attack.
	Whether it is by a foreign government or which one it is, we don't know and can never know because the CIA had its Vault 7 software.
	Which they could use to disguise who they were when they did a cyber attack.
	They could look like any country that they wanted to.
	And guess what? Those other countries have had their own programs like that, most likely.
	But now they've also got the CIA's own program.
	That was all released.
	And so we've seen a water system that was hacked in a small town.
	And they admitted that because it was a small town.
	But most of the time, what they'll do is they'll say it was something else.
	And so the grid can be hacked, the water system can be hacked, and you can also hack even the financial system.
	And I don't know if that's what happened.
	They have an explanation for why Berkshire Hathaway, that's Warren Buffett's company, why Berkshire Hathaway's stock went down 99%.
	They said it was a technical issue on Monday that caused the A-class shares of Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway to appear to be down nearly 100% on the New York Stock Exchange for most of the morning trading period.
	Trading was halted in those shares, as well as in Barrick Gold and New Scale Power, which had also seen dramatic falls.
	These three stocks have since resumed trading.
	It wasn't just limited to those three.
	It was about 40 different stocks, but only 40, which is kind of interesting.
	Don't you think? Because they say that it was a piece of software that had changed, but wouldn't that affect more than just those 40 stocks?
	The New York Stock Exchange said the problem stemmed from a price bans published by the Consolidated Tape Association, the organization used by major exchanges to jointly provide real-time stock quotes.
	It's kind of an ancillary system.
	You remember when all the planes were grounded, like had never been done before or since 9-11, and it happened again?
	Why did it happen? It was an ancillary system, the NOTAM system.
	It was essentially a reporting system saying, we've got a problem on this runway, or there's something happening here, so the planes would know what was going on.
	And when that system was attacked and taken down, the FAA just shut down all planes.
	And they did it for about a 12-hour period, if I remember correctly.
	They said, oh, it's not a hack.
	It's not a hack. It's not an attack on our infrastructure.
	It's not ransomware or anything like that.
	They got it back up. And within an hour, exactly the same thing happened in Canada.
	Their no-TAM system went down, and only their no-TAM system.
	And that stayed down for a little over an hour.
	I think they paid the ransom right away.
	I think it took a while for these people to decide whether or not they were going to pay the ransom in the U.S. When they finally did it and then it happened and then they go to Canada, Canada paid them right away.
	I think that's what happened. And it's always these ancillary side things.
	You know, when they came after the Colonial Pipeline situation, it was ransomware.
	And what they did was they took over the accounting system.
	They didn't do anything to shut down or to sabotage the oil pipelines, but if they couldn't do the accounting when they sold and transferred oil, they'd just shut it down, just like the NOTAM thing.
	And so here, this is some software that ran kind of the ticker tape function.
	The issue may have been caused by a new software release, they say.
	40 stocks affected by the issue.
	But again, they will never tell us if this were to happen unless they want a war.
	And they'll say, well, this was done by our enemy.
	And we must go to war against East Oceania or whatever.
	And if that's the case, don't believe them.
	But if they're silent, you can probably guess that maybe it was these other people.
	So there were less than 4,000 recorded trades on the day for Berkshire.
	And when the trading was halted, I guess people hadn't seen it.
	You know, would you buy Berkshire Hathaway at 99% off?
	I think most people would. It's a very good performing stock.
	But as one person was saying, the guy said, it's really unusual that it only took down those.
	Isn't that strange?
	Very confusing that it's happening in just a few shares, said the senior managing partner at Meridian Equity Partners, who typically works on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange.
	And they talked about the fact that, well, I'm sure that they'll move those trades back since that was kind of strange.
	And then when you look at the stock market itself, the entire stock market is writing, as this also Wall Street Journal says, the entire stock market, and it is out of record, but it's writing on questionable assumptions about AI. I said, remember all the bulls earlier this year getting excited that the rally was broadening out beyond the magnificent seven stocks?
	This month, the indexes hit fresh records, but now it's only four giant tech stocks that added more market value than the rest of the S&P 500 combined.
	Very concentrated on just a couple of stocks.
	Very concentrated on just the idea that artificial intelligence is going to save us.
	Well, we're going to take...
	Do we have our guest ready?
	No, we don't yet. Okay.
	I have another couple of comments here.
	A tip from A Love.
	Thank you very much. Writes on Rumble, every child has a right to life.
	That's right. Every child and older people, sick people, disabled people, You know, it's amazing when you look at how rapidly this euthanasia up in Canada is advancing.
	They call it MAID, Medical Assistance in Dying.
	And it's now one of the major causes of death.
	And they're not even putting out all these statistics.
	And of course, the big question is, Based on seeing lungs filling up with water, the big question in a lot of people's minds, and they believe the method of killing with a drug protocol they have there, is that it effectively paralyzes people, and then they drown to death.
	Anywhere from 30 minutes to 24 hours.
	Slowly drowning from that.
	They call that a good death.
	Euthanasia is what that means.
	On Rumble, Montana John 357 says, I have suffered with Crohn's for 20 years, including surgeries and every medication.
	Nothing worked. I found with improved diet, probiotics, and creatine, I've been symptom-free for five years.
	Well, that's good to know. That's really good to know.
	I didn't talk about this.
	I usually don't talk about...
	Just violent situations here, but in this particular case, this attack in Germany truly was amazing, and this guy stabbed six people.
	Killed a cop, stabbing him in the neck from behind.
	As the cop came in, you know, cops come in, they see people fighting.
	It's just like, you know, grab everybody and stop the fighting and then sort out, you know, what's going on with this stuff.
	So this cop comes in and the people who were being attacked by this radical Afghan had him on the ground and they were fighting him and punching him.
	And so this cop comes in and knocks over the guy who was punching him.
	And, you know, broke that up and the guy got free.
	And as the cop was bending over with this guy that he stopped attacking, the killer, the Afghan with a knife, comes up behind the cop and stabs him in the neck.
	And I saw that picture and I thought, wow, that's got to be a serious thing.
	Well, it killed him. And so, as they point out in this article from the Independent Sentinel, a 29-year-old cop was one of six people who suffered serious injuries during the attack in Central Square of Mannheim on Friday.
	Police have not publicly suggested any possible motive.
	Oh, really? We haven't any idea.
	He's screaming, Allahu Akbar.
	We have no idea what the motive was.
	That's the official press.
	Meanwhile, our borders are open.
	And of course, you know, this Mike Johnson is not going to do anything about it either.
	Republicans aren't going to do anything about it.
	They all join.
	Every single one of the six Republican senators here in Tennessee went along with money for wars abroad, no money to protect our own borders.
	People like that, folks, are useless.
	They're dangerous. They're at war with us.
	I will not vote for any of them.
	Two illegal immigrants just attempted a terror attack on U.S. soil.
	We know that a Jordanian, I talked about this the other day, illegally crossed over the border, joined up with another Jordanian who had overstayed his visa, drove a box truck on the gates of Quantico.
	A Marine base where they also do FBI training.
	And they apprehended him there.
	And I talked about the fact that also a Navy SEAL was involved in an altercation with two people, he said, was taking pictures of his family, a telephoto lens, and he saw them, snuck around.
	They got into a fight. He wound up killing one of them and capturing the other.
	We're going to see more and more of this as the borders remain wide open.
	But we're going to take a break, and when we come back, we're going to have, I think, a very important interview, a very important book for people to understand what is happening in terms of food supply.
	We're talking about getting good food, and we're going to talk about raising healthy kids.
	but of course it's gonna be stuff that's gonna help you as well.
	It is so important, just as Midwestern, as our previous viewer said, he started doing some things with diet and other stuff that was, as the ancient Greeks said, let your food be your medicine.
	Before we go to a break, Midwestern Canadian, thank you for the tip.
	It said, my wife said she was listening to a psychologist who thinks maid will replace transgenderism as the next social contagion and girls and young women.
	Yeah, the medical assistance in dying.
	Euthanasia. Well, it is a...
	It is an expanding thing, isn't it?
	And it truly is coming out of the fact that we don't value human life.
	And we don't want to make an idol out of health.
	But it's important to do what we can to protect our health.
	And that is what we're going to be talking about when we return.
	We'll be right back.
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	You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	All right, joining us now is David Steinman.
	He's the author and co-author of the groundbreaking bestsellers, Diet for a Poisoned Planet and the Safe Shopper's Bible.
	He's also a director of HLF, featured as one of the experts and activists in an HBO Max documentary Not So Pretty.
	And his investigative reporting and writing have won awards from Best of the West, California Newspaper Publishers Association, the Sierra Club, and the Green Book Festival.
	He is publisher of Healthy Living G Magazine and serves as director of the non-profit HLF, which is Healthy Living Foundation.
	His book that we're going to be talking about today is Raising Healthy Kids, Protecting Your Children from Hidden Chemical Toxins.
	And of course, you can find that on Amazon, probably everywhere else as well.
	Thank you for joining us, Mr.
	Simon. Oh, it's great to be here today.
	Well, thank you. Thank you.
	I was interested when I looked at this, let's begin with the youngest kids, the kids that are developing and the risk to them from chemicals in the household and chemicals that the pregnant mother may come in contact with.
	Yeah, that's a great issue, David, because our lives have become so inundated with chemical toxins, most of them not revealed to us, but hidden.
	I'll just give you an example.
	You were talking about our youngest kids, or rather during pregnancy, when so much of our kids' destiny really is determined from exposures that we may not even be thinking about, like, for example, cosmetics.
	You know, a lot of cosmetics don't reveal the hidden chemicals that can cause harm to the fetus or the embryo.
	For example, there's a chemical called phthalate.
	And, you know, everyone is talking about plastic today.
	Plastic in our water, plastic even in our bodies, in the ocean, in our food.
	And what researchers have found is that phthalates, which are plastics, they're used in cosmetics to make them a little more pliable or hold in cosmetics.
	When mom is using these cosmetics and just has high normal everyday levels, high normal everyday levels, her child is at much higher risk for being born with lost IQ points, as many as six to seven IQ points could be lost.
	That's a lot.
	Yeah.
	Yeah. I'm sorry. I was going to ask, what kind of cosmetics?
	I mean, we're talking about lipstick or face powder or eye makeup?
	What kind of stuff? You know, it's really pervasive.
	I'll just give you an example from the book.
	I talk about how when my kids brought home fragrances, right?
	You know, every teenager gets really concerned about social acceptance, so they start using deodorant, fragrances, and all.
	So my kid, one of my sons brought home English leather cologne.
	David, which I think every teenager since like 1965 has probably used.
	That's right. I remember using it when I was a teenager.
	Oh, I know. And it hasn't stopped, my friend.
	It hasn't stopped.
	But we measured it for phthalate.
	I actually had it sent to the lab.
	And it was loaded with so much phthalate.
	And I told my son, I said, look, you know, I want to have grandkids and I want your kids to be really healthy.
	And if you keep using this stuff, I could speak frankly to him.
	I said, it's going to damage your testicles.
	testicles and your sperm. Because what researchers have found out is that phthalates act like the sex hormone estrogen. So when your son's testicles are loaded up with phthalate, which they will be if mom continues to use the wrong cosmetics, not only does he lose IQ points and fertility and could be at risk for ADHD, but he loses his testosterone. Because phthalates
	are like sex hormones. They imitate the hormone estrogen.
	So when we ask why do our daughters have so much endometriosis or polycystic ovary disease?
	Mm-hmm.
	The answer is we're overloading them with estrogens that are hidden, and one of the big culprits is cosmetics.
	So I do share in Raising Healthy Kids, how do you find safe cosmetics?
	I make it really simple, but it's so important.
	And of course, we laughed about English leather, and it's been around forever.
	But the formulations are changing all the time, right?
	You know, today, the products that you get today are going to likely be very different than what you use as a teenager.
	Even if it is the same brand and the same fragrance, it's still going to be probably a different formulation.
	They're constantly changing and improving these things, right?
	In terms of the things that they use for the manufacturing process and that type of thing.
	If you're looking at the ingredient list, you certainly will see that there are a lot of chemical toxins being used in cosmetics today that were not used 20 or 30 years ago.
	And cosmetics have always been a problem in society.
	I mean, you know, the Romans used cosmetics with lead and mercury for the cosmetic effects, you know.
	So really, in some ways, David...
	The safety has not really improved.
	It's probably just as bad today as it was 2,000 years ago.
	It's just that we've changed the chemicals that are causing problems.
	And we're not telling...
	The worst thing is, you know, people would buy safe products if they only knew.
	But the way that it's...
	The way the game is played or rigged, Industry doesn't have to tell consumers when they know there are hidden chemical toxins.
	I agree. And that's why my group, Healthy Living Foundation, has done so many legal actions in Washington, D.C. and California to make companies reveal these hidden chemical toxins in their consumer products.
	And of course, you know, we look at this and we say, well, you know, that's going to be fine because I used that as a kid or whatever.
	I've always used that. Well, that's not the same product.
	And you might look at these products and you say, well, I know I don't want something that's got lead in it or other things like that, but they might get the lead out.
	But now they put in some new chemical, but you have no idea what this is or what the health effects of it are.
	And so that's how, as you point out, that's why you've got to keep current on this, why something like your book, your publication is going to help people, because those things are constantly changing.
	Oh, they know about that one, so let's take that out.
	But we've got this new thing here, and nobody's tested it.
	We're going to put that in, and it can be something that you don't even necessarily really internalize in terms of eating, but you're still going to be getting that in through your skin, breathing it in, other things like that, and it's going to have a big effect on you, isn't it? Yeah, you know, the thing is, there's no pre-market safety testing for cosmetics either.
	So it's not like, as you mentioned, the concoctions are being tested to see what they will actually do to our reproductive capacity.
	We and our kids are actually the test animals in this case.
	That's right. I was just talking about that with vaccines.
	That's becoming the new thing, you know.
	Oh, you got an MRA vaccine?
	You're approved. Go straight through.
	If they got a technology like 5G or something, we don't need to do any tests.
	We need this. So let's just run this thing through.
	We'll just rubber stamp this through. And of course, that is going on with everything, but especially with things that people are not necessarily even thinking about in terms of cosmetics.
	You mentioned things like bubble baths.
	Yeah, as a matter of fact, a bubble bath is another big culprit.
	A lot of bubble baths are made using what's called an ethoxylated alcohol, and they're contaminated with dioxane.
	So essentially, you know, the same dioxane, by the way, is in shampoos.
	My nonprofit group, the Healthy Living Foundation, we sued Dr.
	Gamble. We sued them for having high amounts of a carcinogen in Pantene and Herbal Essences shampoos.
	And we got them to reduce the levels by 90% in a consent judgment that we won in California Superior Court to make those products much safer.
	But you know, bubble bath like shampoos will contain a carcinogen called dioxane.
	Here's one big tip that's in my book though that I want to share with your listeners.
	If you see an ingredient on your cosmetic label that has these three letters, ETH, like sodium laureth sulfate, don't buy it.
	Those are the ingredients that will be contaminated with chemicals that cause cancer.
	So mom and dad, if you're buying shampoos for your kids, or if you're just buying them for yourself, or a bubble bath, The big tip is avoid any chemicals with ETH. You'll see it on the label, and if you do, you know that company is not looking up for your health or your kids' health.
	Wow, that's very important.
	Well, we'll check our shampoo today.
	I'm going to get your book as well.
	When you look at all this, and you mentioned some of the biggest brands that are there, of course, you know, Johnson& Johnson's, and something as fundamental as baby powder.
	That has gone on for decades, and they continue to do it, even after it was identified.
	They continued to run that through, didn't they?
	You're talking about the talc issue.
	Yeah. The baby powders had talc.
	And that has been linked with ovarian cancer.
	So it's a really big issue.
	But I'll tell you something else, David.
	If you want to move a little from cosmetics to foods, I'll just give you an example while we're on the topic of our children.
	You know, in court in California, the HLF, the Healthy Living Foundation, we had to sue a large almond nut butter company.
	And I don't know if you want to mention names or not, but it's helpful and I don't mind sharing a little bit.
	Because it's in public record, actually.
	But we sued Justin's Nut Butters.
	Which is one of the most popular brands in the country because they had such a high amount of an industrial chemical called acrylamide that they were not telling their consumers about.
	Now my kids, like a lot of kids, are trying to go healthy and a lot of folks are trying to go paleo.
	So they are buying a lot of almond butters, for example.
	And what I share in raising healthy kids, protecting your children from hidden chemical toxins is, when you're at that Whole Foods and you're looking for nut butters, you could reach for the Whole Foods nut butter, which we also tested and was very low and very safe compared to the Justins.
	But neither is labeled for this industrial chemical called acrylamide, so the consumer is left in the dark.
	The problem is that acrylamide, as we were talking about with talc, is linked with an increasing incidence of endometrial cancer in our daughters.
	and that risk begins when they're kids and they're eating snack foods because the foods most likely to have acrylamide are snack foods like nut butters or potato chips or french fries and if we let our kids keep eating these foods, we wonder again why is there so much endometriosis, endometrial cancer, reproductive cancers, breast cancer, all these cancers.
	Well, I mentioned that some chemicals act like estrogen.
	Acrylamide also acts like the hormone estrogen.
	So when our daughters are eating it, it messes with their genes and causes them to produce a toxic form of estrogen that then increases their risk for reproductive cancers.
	So, again, David, these things are not being shared with consumers, and that's why I really felt it was necessary to write the book and share this information.
	You know, people can...
	One of the fastest ways to make change in America is through the marketplace, through the free market.
	And we've kind of always said, well, America is a free market.
	We're capitalists. But how free is a market when the manufacturers are withholding such vital information from the consumers and dumbing them down?
	And that's what I'm fighting against, to make people smarter and let them see what's really going on so they can protect themselves and their families.
	That's right. You can't have a marketplace.
	You can't have a free marketplace if the consumers don't have any information.
	Exactly. Let me ask you this.
	Why are they putting these industrial chemicals in?
	Is it to be able to process the food more easily?
	Is it to make it go through the machines better?
	Is that why these industrial chemicals are finding their way in?
	Processing is a big part of it.
	Sometimes companies are just cheap, and they buy cheap materials and inferior materials.
	You know, also companies pretend like they have all these testing procedures in place.
	They'll say our products are third-party tested, etc., etc.
	What they're really saying is, when we buy our materials, we tell our raw source material suppliers to test the products for us and give us those test results.
	But what they don't tell their suppliers is, this is what we want you to test for, and these are the levels we want you to test at.
	Now, because I've been in the trenches so long, David, I know what the suppliers to the brand say is, well, we're going to test the products, but we're not really going to look for the chemicals that they're concerned about, nor are we going to test at levels low enough to find them.
	So we're going to send them a quality certificate that says that everything is non-detectable.
	Well, we go in there and test the products with really good lab methods, and that's when we find the phthalates, for example, or the dioxane.
	Self-induced blindness that the companies don't want to know the truth about their own products So they leave it to their suppliers and their suppliers willingly lie and deceive them because they want to keep supplying Inferior materials that don't cost as much to process. Yeah.
	Yeah. Yeah, we always see that I mean, we see it with political polls.
	When they're looking at pharmaceuticals, you might have three different companies, and they both got pretty much the same.
	They got three different drugs to treat a particular problem.
	And so they'll each hire their people to test it.
	And lo and behold...
	The people that you hired that you're paying are going to say that your brand is better than brand B and brand C. They've seen that over and over again.
	And so that's really what's happening because there isn't any oversight.
	There isn't any information outside this.
	You're our director of the Chemical Toxin Working Group.
	Tell us a little bit about that.
	Well, we began in 2012.
	And our mission is to make companies reveal the hidden chemical toxins in their products.
	And we do a lot of testing.
	And I'm always buying products.
	You know, I spend hours every day, or one of our shoppers will buy products.
	For example, we took on bumblebee and chicken of the sea, and we took them on for selling oysters and clams from China that were filled with lead.
	So these products have so much lead in them that one – and folks, these products are being sold in your neighborhood.
	So if you see canned clams, oysters, mussels, and you want to have kids, these are not the products to buy. They have so much less...
	lead and cadmium in them, so much lead that eating one serving of one of these products is equivalent to drinking about 20 glasses of drinking water from Flint, Michigan, during the height of the lead crisis.
	So I'm telling mom and dad, don't buy these canned shellfish products.
	If you want to have kids, you're going to inundate your fetus or your children with heavy metals.
	So we take on big companies.
	In that case, we took on Chicken of the Sea, as I mentioned, Bumblebee, Kroger, the supermarket chain, and Walmart, all in one court case.
	And these are billion-dollar companies.
	They joined together to fight us, but we won.
	We won in court.
	We got a consent judgment, and that consent judgment said, now, at least in California, where we have stronger consumer laws, you have to notify the consumer on the label if your product contains heavy metals like lead or cadmium.
	So we won a big victory for consumers, and we continue to do that.
	We continue to work in the area of foods, cosmetics, vitamin supplements, and we test and we test.
	You know, another product we found...
	This is how we screw up fertility in America.
	There was a very popular olive oil product we tested that had a chemical called carbaryl in it.
	They weren't telling their customers.
	But... We enlisted the help of the most respected researcher in this field in the country, if not the world, who had found that carbaryl at very low levels, David, from everyday exposures, was damaging men's sperm.
	So here you have a company selling olive oil products.
	With carbaryl, now men and women are using olive oil products daily.
	We use it for our health because of the different kinds of fats that are in olive oil.
	has so much carbaryl in it, and you're on the cusp of either having a family or not, as so many couples are in America, this is the kind of exposure that can bring you from able to have a child to not being able to have a child.
	And it's every day, and you're not being told.
	And, you know, your mom and dad are going, why aren't we conceiving?
	And dad is going, I don't know.
	I'm eating olive oil every day and trying to be really healthy.
	And what he doesn't know, of course, is that that olive oil is tainted with carburel, and that's damaging his sperm.
	His sperm can't make it up the vaginal canal to the egg because they're not strong enough.
	They don't have enough motility.
	Mm-hmm. So, are they misshapen?
	So, we really are damaging, you know, this is a micro-world, a nano-world we're talking about within our bodies.
	Yes. But these are just examples of the kinds of things we're fighting on a daily basis.
	We want a big settlement there, so CARB will no longer be found in this company's olive oil products.
	That's great. Yeah, you know, when we look at this, we see spermageddon.
	People have talked about that. Look at the decline in sperm.
	Look at the decline in population.
	Of course, there's a lot of different sociological factors involved in it.
	But a lot of this, I think, is, as you point out, a lot of it is the environment.
	A lot of it is the products that we use.
	It can be cleaning products.
	It can be cereal. It can be bubble bath.
	It can be all these cosmetics that we use.
	And we really don't understand that.
	And it is something that is constantly changing and difficult to keep up with.
	Well, one thing though for our listeners, don't get defeated.
	Don't throw your hands up and say it's all poisoned.
	The reason why I wrote Raising Healthy Kids is to give you a black belt in protecting your children in the chemical toxin jungle.
	Yes. Reading the book will really equip you.
	You'll read it once, you'll have all the information, and then you can go on with the rest of your life.
	There are so many things that are so important that you might not know about.
	One little story in the book I'll just share.
	Family is in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.
	They just started their family. They had two young kids they were sending off to preschool, David.
	What they didn't do was check the drinking water, the tap water at the preschool.
	That preschool was connected to a well that was drawing from an Air Force base that had been using all these forever chemicals.
	So their children, their bloodstream was inundated with chemicals that caused cancer, kidney, and liver disease.
	These kids were like four and five years old.
	The only thing they didn't do was ask the preschool, did you check your water?
	Do you test it?
	If they had just done that for $200.
	Mmm-hmm.
	Wow. That we parents feel when our children suffer, you know?
	So there's so many things that people need to know, big things that are simple, but if you don't know them, it can change your life.
	That's what I'm trying to do in raising healthy kids, is give you those big tips that will protect you and your family.
	And even as you pointed out before, you know, you talked about the products that one of them is bad and the other one sold right next to it, the Whole Foods.
	You know, if you've got to eat this, don't eat that type of thing.
	But also, as you point out, you know, to check the water.
	It's amazing how much stuff finds its way into the water.
	It can be something that's put there by the water system or it can be something that is a spill.
	I remember a reporter that I talked to who was on the beat out in California.
	And there was a situation in a military base where they had disposed of a lot of instruments that had radium in it.
	And nobody knew that. And it worked its way down into the water system.
	And so even though people were on well water, people out there in California were getting this radium, high concentrations of radium in their water.
	And it's like, you know, people were getting sick, so then they started investigating that.
	But yeah, that's probably a good tip.
	To constantly be checking your water to see if there's something there, even if you're not on a city system or something like that.
	Even if you're pulling it out of the ground, there can still be groundwater contamination that you don't know about.
	Well, that's true. Now, some people might think that, well, what good will checking my water be if I can't afford to correct the problem?
	But what I did in Raising Healthy Kids is we went down to Cancer Alley, Louisiana.
	And I wanted to go there to write some of the book Raising Healthy Kids because I wanted to make sure that everyone, no matter what their budget is, could do the things that I'm talking about in Raising Healthy Kids.
	So Cancer Alley is a stretch of river, Mississippi River, between Baton Rouge and New Orleans.
	It's about 85 miles away.
	And there are about 150 to 200 chemical plants packed into these 85 miles.
	You know, you'll see all the ships coming up from the Gulf with their oil and coal or coming down the river with their coal and ore to these plants.
	This is where all the chemicals in our cosmetics, personal care products, this is where they're all made as Cancer Alley, where all these plants are.
	The trouble is, their drinking water there is atrocious.
	Yeah. We measure atrazine in it, phthalates, which we talked about, hexachlorocyclopantidine.
	I won't even go into what that is, but lots of different chemicals.
	And some people there, though, may make like $15,000, $17,000 a year.
	They don't make a lot of money.
	So what I often tell folks is, if you're on a budget, don't worry about testing your water at home.
	I'm talking about at home now.
	Mm-hmm. If you're on a budget, I want you to do these things.
	And this is what I share in the book, too.
	So this is a tip from our chapter on drinking water.
	Get yourself a little faucet filter.
	That fits at the end of your faucet.
	They cost about $25, right?
	And they do a pretty good job of filtering their water.
	But then I want you to get a pitcher filter, like Zero Water or Brita.
	Mm-hmm. In our home we use zero water.
	Why? Because it filters out those forever chemicals.
	So you put the water from your faucet and then you put it into your pitcher.
	So you've double filtered your water.
	That pitcher will cost about $30.
	So for about $50, David, you have filtered your water and reduced probably 85 to 90% of the contamination.
	Now, a really AAA system can run $300, $400 or more, but not everyone has an available $300 or $400 at one time.
	But most people can afford a $25, $30 purchase.
	Yeah. So that's why I'm saying...
	Now, if you were mentioning all these chemicals in your home, well, when you shower, you know, and the water gets hot, then these chemicals become volatile and you breathe them.
	So I want you to take another $20 and buy yourself a shower filter with activated carbon.
	Now, for about $75, you've done most of your home.
	But what if you garden?
	Now I want you to get a little filter for your hose.
	So you can get them out of your garden, too, for another $20 or $25.
	So for about $100, no matter where you live, whether it's Cancer Alley or the Hamptons, you can protect yourself And you need to do this because, you know, the chemical toxins we're talking about tend to attack people of color more, but they do attack everyone.
	So everyone should be aware of this.
	The point is that all of us can do this.
	Don't let your budget be...
	Don't say, I can't afford it.
	I bust so many myths in raising healthy kids.
	People will say, for example, I can't afford organic foods because they're too expensive.
	Not true anymore.
	All the staples, David, all the staples, lettuce, celery, apples, they're all about the same price as conventionally growing now.
	And that's because so many shoppers for the last 20 years have been waking up to wanting food without chemicals like pesticides or fungicides.
	So they've grown this market.
	Again, it's the free market.
	As the demand has grown, prices have gone down.
	So this summer, for example, or last summer, I could find organic produce just by shopping online that was cheaper than conventionally sourced produce.
	And it's because we the shoppers are waking up and making a difference.
	That's great.
	Yeah, tell us a little bit about that too.
	I like what you had to say about the water.
	Everybody should start with the water because you consume so much of that.
	Even if you can't get one of these very expensive, several hundred dollar filters, it's going to take out 99.9% of so many things.
	If you can get 90% of it out, that is a huge difference it's going to make in your life.
	But talk a little bit about the labels in terms of, you know, something that's organic versus something that is non-GMO and some of these other things.
	I think people get confused about that.
	I'm sure you cover that in your book.
	By the way, the book is Raising Healthy Kids, Protecting Your Children from Hidden Chemical Toxins.
	Educate us a little bit about some of these labels that we'll see out there and all we can depend on.
	Sure. Well, one of the things I do talk about with regard to food is I do think organic food is a better choice than conventionally sourced food.
	I'm not saying that organically grown foods are perfect.
	But in writing Raising Healthy Kids, I reviewed thousands and thousands of tests that were done on foods, organic and non-organic.
	And the non-organic food was really infiltrated with a lot of chemical pesticides that you're obviously not told about on the labeling, whereas the organic foods rarely ever had any detectable pesticides.
	So the difference is enormous.
	The reason why this is really important, again, we're talking about cosmetic shaving IQ points.
	Researchers at Columbia in New York City and UC Davis in California found that when kids were exposed to the chemicals in our foods, like the pesticides, they also lost 5-7 IQ points.
	Now, the researchers in California found this among children who were exposed to pesticides because so many of their parents were farm workers.
	But in New York City, the kids' parents weren't exposed to pesticides because they were farm workers.
	The kids were being exposed to these chemicals because they were eating the foods.
	And they were also losing 5 to 7 IQ points.
	So organic is the real thing.
	And there are a lot of health benefits that come from organic foods.
	I know it's really fashionable to bash people like me who say, well, organics are great food.
	You want to call me a hippie or I don't know what.
	But listen, the published peer-reviewed studies show that when your child is on an organic diet, they have less obesity.
	Wow.
	Wow. We're good to go.
	So farmers can apply more herbicide to them.
	There's a reason why glyphosate or Roundup is showing up in so many foods in America today, and glyphosate is thought to cause cancer among other problems.
	But the reason why it's showing up is so many crops are being genetically modified to withstand heavy doses of Roundup, So the herbicide companies can sell more Roundup, and the seed companies have modified their crops so they can take that more Roundup because they're the same company.
	The seed companies and the herbicide companies are one and the same.
	So, you know, you really do want to get non-GMO, but non-GMO may still have other pesticides applied to it.
	That's right. I'll just give you an example.
	So you can have something that's non-GMO, as you said, they might be putting that on there because they might want to really load it up with pesticides, but something that is non-GMO... Well, it can still have pesticides, right?
	Oh, yeah. For example, every loaf of bread we've ever tested at the Healthy Living Foundation has an organophosphate pesticide in it.
	These organophosphate pesticides are nerve toxins.
	They actually damage the synapses between your nerves and inhibit an enzyme that breaks down the acetylcholine so at high doses you would go into spasms and Wow.
	Be unable to function. But at low doses, these are what are causing ADHD in our kids.
	Yes. And so every local bread, it may say non-GMO, but it's still going to be sprayed with herbicides or pesticides.
	So organic is superior to non-GMO. Organic will still be non-GMO, but it also precludes all synthetic pesticides.
	And that's the key thing, that the organic is also non-GMO, right?
	Organic is also non-GMO, but it also precludes so many pesticides that would be used.
	So it's a better label.
	It checks both of those boxes, both pesticides and GMO. Yeah, exactly.
	That's good. That's important.
	Because it gets confusing. What about, do you talk anything about eggs?
	I know this isn't really a chemical thing, but it gets so confusing when you go, this is free range and this is...
	You know, all these different labels that they got for the egg stuff is very confusing.
	It's like, I don't even know what the difference is with these different labels that they got for the eggs.
	That's a great question, too.
	Now we're talking about animals.
	For example, free-range, pasture-raised, grass-fed for beef, for example, is another one.
	So, being a bleeding heart liberal for animal welfare and human welfare as well, for both of us, I do try to buy products that But I've looked them up and these labels can be misleading because if they say free range, it could mean like maybe an hour or two a day that they're let out of their coop.
	So there are, again, I buy organic and I do look for uncaged poultry eggs and it will say it on the label.
	Also, you should get to know the company you're buying your eggs from because, as I said, they can claim to be free-range but not let their birds out very much.
	Because, again, most of them are certified.
	If they're certified, the animals will be treated much better.
	Also, with beef, we also have now organic versus grass-fed beef.
	And I'm okay with grass-fed beef.
	Now, the big thing with beef is that cattle in America are treated with hormones, both estrogen and progesterone and testosterone.
	And these levels can be measured in your beef.
	So, there have been articles recently about our daughters reaching anarchy or puberty earlier and earlier.
	Yes. And the reason why this is happening in Western society, again I'll come back to the sex hormones that we're inundating our kids with.
	If your daughter is eating a lot of beef, And it's not grass-fed or organic.
	She's getting a lot of extra hormones.
	And these things will cause earlier menarche in our daughters.
	And that's not a good thing.
	One, it increases their risk for breast cancer and other reproductive cancers.
	The longer that reproductive window is open for women...
	The greater the chance is for cancer later in life.
	Oh, wow. So, we really want to be careful about that.
	Now, with beef, I mentioned I'm okay with grass-fed.
	And I've studied this.
	And that's because grass-fed beef also tends to be...
	It may not be labeled organic.
	But if you get beef that's been grass-fed from beginning to end...
	It's not going to have hormones, and it's going to be very low in any kind of pesticides that would have accumulated in the grains that are being fed, for example, corn-fed beef.
	So grass-fed and organic are your best choices for beef, and there's a big reason for that.
	Another good reason is ranchers who sell grass-fed beef, pork, and so on, tend to think of themselves really as grass managers.
	What they say is, give me a little rain, give me a little grass, and I can give you your beef or your pork.
	So they're very conservation-oriented.
	And I interviewed for Raising Healthy Kids Mel Coleman, whose ranch is up in Colorado, and he just talked about 100 years of regenerative ranching.
	They've really remade so much of that area into grasslands, healthy grasslands, because they moved their herds.
	In this case, it was a couple thousand cattle at one time.
	But they moved them In ways that the grass would regenerate and they were not fed corn and grains.
	You want to avoid corn-fed or grain-fed beef, though that's the beef that will have the hormones added to it.
	You want grass-fed or organic when it comes to beef.
	Pork. And, you know, your other meats.
	interesting and of course let me ask you this because we've just had some of these cases come up with the Amish farmer Amos Miller who was you had a situation where everybody's buying shares of his beef and he was raising them grass-fed and then when COVID came and it was difficult to get things to the market and have them slaughtered he decided that he would do the slaughtering there and it was kind of a club situation and so he did that the USDA
	came in and shut him down saying that you got to have all of the cattle slaughtered at an official USDA site now when when they're taken there they put them on grains there at the feedlots right But it's not enough that it's going to really make that big of a change.
	Is that the way we would look at it, or what do you think about that?
	Not every feedlot.
	No, grass-fed beef would not be fed.
	You want to be sure, but most grass-fed beef is not being finished with grains.
	Oh, it's not? Okay. They're not being finished with grains.
	But you're right about the slaughterhouses.
	And the USDA is really, really strict.
	Even the labeling for natural USDA watered down, that's why you're asking about labels.
	You'll also see naturally raised on your beef products.
	That doesn't mean anything.
	So you want grass-fed.
	What naturally raised means is they will still be given hormones or antibiotics in the case of poultry.
	Naturally raised does not mean that they weren't given hormones or antibiotics.
	So naturally raised is not enough protection.
	You want grass-fed or organic for your beef products.
	Let me ask you, just mention poultry.
	I talked to a Tennessee State Senator here, and I'm in Tennessee, Senator Nicely, and he was talking about how they finish off, in many cases, chicken with arsenic.
	Makes them gain weight very rapidly, do it at the end of it, and so, you know, you get this bloating of the chickens.
	It's not enough to kill them before they slaughter them.
	But what do you...
	And he said, I've tried to get this stuff out, but there's a lot of...
	A lot of interest, the big business of the chicken thing, they really fight stopping this arsenic.
	Is that something that you've seen or know about, the arsenic in chickens at the end?
	Wow, that is a new one.
	The arsenic. I don't know about arsenic, but I do know that, generally speaking, people will ask me, what about when I'm dining out?
	What do I do then if I'm not quite sure about the source of the meat?
	Generally speaking, and when I wrote Raising Healthy Kids...
	What I'm trying to do is get you the biggest reductions possible, you know, for the least effort or the least cost.
	Yeah, like we're talking about with the water, you know, if you can get rid of 90% of it, that's a huge improvement.
	Oh, yeah. I mean, it's, you know...
	But when you're dining out and you're looking at meats, poultry is a much safer choice than beef.
	And the way to make your poultry safest...
	Or your beef safest is to cut out the fatty portions if you can resist not eating some of the fat.
	For example, some of the most harmful chemicals that we know today, like DDT and heptachlor, accumulate in the fatty portions of animals and humans.
	So if you have a nice cut of beef with a lot of fat on it, it will tend to have more pesticide in it.
	If you are serving, if you're buying poultry, for example, and you have fried chicken, You know, the skin is the fattiest portion, plus that breaded portion will have all those organic phosphate pesticides.
	So you might be better off with grilled chicken, for example.
	But when you're dining out, poultry is always safer than beef.
	Turkey is always safer than chicken.
	And it's just the way the studies come out.
	So that's another tip that I bring up in raising healthy kids is when you're dining out, what do you look for?
	That's great. That's great.
	And that's the key thing is just being wise and trying to minimize.
	Because there isn't a 100% solution for anything.
	In the real world, you're just trying to minimize the harmful stuff and maximize the beneficial stuff.
	And that's the real wisdom of the book, I think.
	Well, is there a category here that we haven't talked about?
	We've talked about pesticides, we've talked about cosmetics, we've talked about vegetables, we haven't talked about cereals and stuff.
	I guess, you know, when you look at the cereal and it's all these bright fluorescent colors, you might think that something's wrong, but there's probably a lot of things that put themselves out there as a healthy cereal that probably have the same problems as that bright fluorescent colored stuff too, maybe, huh?
	Oh my God, you mean those Froot Loops weren't that healthy?
	I thought Froot Loops were part of a wedding breakfast.
	That's right, that's what we're told.
	Oh no, tell me then so.
	They really advertise that stuff heavily to the kids, don't they?
	So what does a parent do if they want to get some cereals?
	What's the best bet on that cereal?
	Again, the grains are heavily sprayed with organophosphate pesticides.
	So your number one decision maker for cereals, mom and dad, is get it organic.
	Don't think they will be more expensive.
	And don't let anyone tell you that you're being silly or dumb for buying organic foods.
	I know there's a lot of organic food bashing going on.
	But it makes a huge difference in your kid's life.
	I'm really coming to you with straight facts.
	When you're buying cereal, you want organic food.
	You know, I talk to so many parents who find that when they stop serving their kids, all these food dyes, like we were talking about Froot Loops, right?
	You know, cereals can be so brightly colored, often they were and still continue to be with food dyes.
	These food dyes are another cause of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
	Wow. And mom and dad will find that when they...
	When they remove food dyes from their kids' diet as well as the organophosphate pesticides in their grains, their kids' behavior will improve and it comes pretty fast.
	So organic is the big key for buying the cereals as well.
	And it will go a long way towards giving your child a better breakfast.
	Stay away from all those food dyes that are in the cereals.
	Oh, yeah. And that's a key thing, which you mentioned, the fact that as the marketplace says we want more organic, then that starts to build a critical mass and it starts to get cheaper, as you point out.
	It's not a premium product anymore.
	You can get it at the same price, or as you said, some places you can find it less than the non-organic stuff.
	So it's no longer something that's available only to people who have more money to spend on the food.
	You could certainly make the argument That you're going to save as you did with the water testing.
	Money spent up front on making sure that your food is clean, your water is clean is going to be a real economic decision rather than having to treat the results of eating food that is loaded with all these other things.
	I mean, you know, let the food be your medicine up front and not create these situations.
	That's the really wise thing, I think.
	Yeah, I think that, you know, the $100, for example, we talked about, you may spend to filter your water if you're on a budget, is going to be so much more valuable than the health insurance you get.
	You know, filtering your water is going to prevent illness.
	Health insurance is going to pay for some of your illness.
	Yeah, that's right. So, you know, and these, you know, David, these changes come when you start on a really wholesome diet, like I'm prescribing and raising healthy kids.
	You feel better and these changes come almost immediately.
	Our bodies are extremely sensitive to our environment, our internal environment, and our external environment.
	And mom and dad, as you put your kids on a healthier diet, their behaviors will improve, your health will improve.
	It really works.
	Plus, the big thing is, you know, we're talking about organic foods, how shoppers have created that market.
	You know, in my reporting in California, I used to go to a town in California called Salinas.
	And Salinas is called the Salad Bowl of America because about 70% of all lettuce is grown in this area of California.
	The town and all the schools are carved right out of the farm fields.
	You'll see thousands of acres of farm fields and then a little school in the middle there.
	I used to go to these schools and they were surrounded by fields being sprayed with pesticides.
	And the kids were playing in the yard.
	There's a chain link fence.
	And on the other side of the yard in the chain link fence is the farm field.
	And there's no buffer and they're all being sprayed.
	I returned to Salinas to write Raising Healthy Kids during the pandemic and went to these same schools.
	They were all surrounded by organic strawberry and lettuce fields.
	So I called up one of the teachers.
	I said, what's going on here?
	He said, well, David... It's because of shoppers like you that have motivated all the farmers here to go organic.
	So they're planting organic strawberry and lettuce fields all around the schools now to grow these crops that you're buying.
	David, I was really overjoyed.
	I was kind of crying with joy because...
	Listen, for years in the early 2000s when there was barely an organic market, I would listen to all these people saying, you know, why waste your money on organic foods?
	Why pay this much for those organic strawberries?
	I was doing it kind of on faith that I was making a difference.
	That's great. But to see it materialize in Salinas like I did showed me that my actions are not only good for my health and my family's health, But they're actually helping my neighbors, people I may never have known, 300 miles north of me, but now I can see that my choices were improving their lives, too.
	That's right. Yeah. I always say that the issues are local, and we do it one-on-one, and we do it from the ground up if we want real change.
	I've seen this type of thing even in my life.
	I've told the story before on the radio here that 40 years ago, we had a dog that came down with a particular type of lymphoma, and I heard a radio report about how farm workers were getting that same thing.
	And they said, yeah, they use this stuff, they spray it on lawns, you know, to keep the weeds down and everything.
	And our dog was getting out and got into that, and so it's like that really clicked with me right there, how important that exposure is.
	Yeah, and that's huge.
	David, that's so huge because, you know, to back up what you're saying, there are actually studies that show that when we use these, we didn't really talk about our lawns, but ask if you're able to afford someone who's taking care of your lawn, ask them what they're using.
	Please know what they're using.
	And if they're using chemical pesticides, please tell them to stop.
	Not only for your kids, but David, there are studies now that show that these same chemicals do cause increased cancer in our canine friends.
	Yeah, that's right. So what's your dog, you know, the lymphoma was definitely, you can see the link pretty clearly.
	It was even the company that didn't even put a sign out, said, you know, keep kids and dogs and pets and everything off of this lawn.
	It's like, why would you put something on there that you can't have?
	Yeah. As you point out, you know, they might save just a little bit of money, but it's the volume that they make it up on.
	And so I think that's one of the other reasons why if we keep it small, if we keep it local, that helps a great deal.
	But as you pointed out, by voting with our pocketbook and voting for organic stuff, and I think the same thing's going to happen if we do that with other products.
	If we do that with cosmetics and other things like that, make it known to them.
	Hey, we don't want this stuff, you know?
	That marketplace thing can work with other things other than organic food.
	We can have organic makeup and other things like that.
	So that's important.
	Yeah. You know, there's a lot of stupidity in the world, and someone has to be the adult.
	Yeah. And to be adults, we need information.
	That's right. You're so right, though, because, you know, organic cosmetics are now widely available, David.
	Again, it's because of shoppers saying, hey, I just don't want these chemicals.
	And companies are responding because of the profit motive.
	That's right. That's right.
	So you're absolutely right.
	We are changing the market.
	So be a smart consumer.
	And one of the ways that you can educate yourself about what is going very quickly, excellent book, Raising Healthy Kids, Protecting Your Children from Hidden Chemicals and Toxins, David Steinman.
	And David, is there, it's on Amazon, is there a place that you prefer that they go?
	Is there some place that you sell that directly or a website?
	Thank you for asking. Support your local bookseller.
	The book is available everywhere, so go to your local independent bookseller and you can get Raising Healthy Kids, Protecting Your Children from Hidden Chemical Toxins.
	Or you can go to Amazon and Barnes& Noble.
	The people that work there, guys, pretty hard.
	I agree. Yeah, get it locally if you can, and it probably is everywhere.
	Raising Healthy Kids by David Steinman.
	It's been a real pleasure talking to you, and that's a very important book, and we will be getting that for our family, absolutely, because my son's wife is pregnant, and so we really want to focus on this stuff right now.
	Yeah, that's right. We better get you a copy ASAP, my friend.
	We will. Thank you so much, David.
	It was great talking to you.
	A very important book, Raising Healthy Kids.
	Have a good day. Thank you so much.
	And folks, thank you.
	We're just about at the end of the show here, and I want to thank everybody for joining us.
	I've got one more thing that I did not cover that was sent to us besides the flag, and that is this book.
	They said I can give this to my kids, Dr.
	Fauci, How a Boy from Brooklyn Became America's Doc.
	Sure. Yeah, that can educate the kids about Dr.
	Fauci. Or I guess we could go back and get the archives for one of the kids a little bit older and I'll educate them about a lot of things about Dr.
	Fauci and other things that are happening in our society.
	Thank you so much for joining us.
	Have a good day. Let me tell you, the David Knight Show you can listen to with your ears.
	You can even watch it by using your eyes.
	In fact, if you can hear me, that means you're listening to the David Knight Show right now.
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