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The David Knight Show - 10/19/2023

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Using free speech to free minds.
	Music.
	You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Thursday, the 19th of October, Year of Our Lord, 2023.
	Music Well, today we will talk about what is happening with a hospital outrage across the world.
	It really doesn't matter what happened there.
	Everybody's going to believe what they want to believe, as we see different stories emerging about this, the anger across Europe and other places.
	Tells us a great deal about what is happening that is far more important than what happened in the hospital.
	But we're not gonna start with that.
	We're gonna begin with lockdown fraud.
	And you know, as we're starting to peel back the layers, like an onion, of this fraud that was perpetrated on us, it is getting more and more interesting as we peel these back.
	So we're going to take a look at that. We'll also take a look at what is happening with climate.
	Tony's going to be joining us today.
	Tony Arterman, and we'll also have Sheriff Mack, because the Southern Poverty Law Center has now decided that they are public enemy number one, begging law enforcement to do something.
	Well, that's what Sheriff Mack's been begging law enforcement to do, to follow the Constitution.
	We'll be right back. Well, it's interesting to see as people are talking about the different layers of corruption, the different layers of fraud with the lockdown and the rest of this stuff.
	And understand, that was 100% really under Trump.
	It was the thing that Fauci, President Fauci, got Trump to go along with.
	But it's interesting to see that the Trump media, like for example, WND, they always talk about it in the abstract, you know.
	You'll see mainstream media say, well, COVID did this to us, and COVID did that to us.
	The alternative media, because they don't want to focus on COVID, you know, they kind of understand there was no real virus that was making people sick, killing people.
	It wasn't another 1918 flu like Trump keeps telling people.
	But they understand that's not the case.
	So what they'll say was, this is pandemic did it to us.
	Pandemic. No, it's the rules of the pandemic.
	The pandemic was a pandemic of tyranny, of psychological gaslighting and fear.
	And the so-called remedies, the medical martial law, as I called it.
	And as I said, you know, Southern Poverty Law Center is coming after Sheriff Mack.
	They came after me.
	They had, you know, because I called it medical martial law from the beginning.
	And that's what it was.
	So the headline, pandemic unemployment fraud could reach mind-boggling numbers.
	No, Trump unemployment fraud could reach mind-boggling numbers.
	We're talking about the PPP. I'm paraphrasing Josie Wales, outlaw Josie Wales.
	Don't PPP down my back and tell me it's raining.
	Or tell me there's a bug going around.
	A new study from the Government Accountability Office estimated the amount of fraud from the pandemic era.
	No, the Trump era.
	The Trump error. Error.
	Unemployment insurance programs is likely between $100 billion and $135 billion.
	About 11-15% of the total that they put out for this.
	COVID didn't do it to us.
	The economy is suffering from long Trump, not long COVID. And of course, we have now unleashed the Biden variant of this as well, to follow up with the original long COVID from Trump.
	The long lockdown, the patterning for mark of the government, mark of the beast, ID numbers, and the patterning for universal basic income, welfare, as they lock us down and take everything from us.
	That's what it was about.
	The GAO found rampant waste, abuse, and fraud of the COVID-19 era.
	No, the Trump era.
	And this fraud and this abuse was by design.
	I reported in the past, you know, just recently, within the last couple of months, a guy came out and he said, you know, I called him when I saw this thing.
	And I said, he was somebody who had run programs like this before.
	I forget which administration he had been in.
	But he said, I called him up and I said, this is going to be rife with fraud.
	Do you understand? There's absolutely no check or balance in this stuff.
	You're just going to be handing money out lily-nilly to people.
	They were not interested, he said.
	He kept calling people in the Trump administration to see if anybody would talk to him.
	Finally, he got somebody and they said, well, there hasn't been any fraud yet.
	They said, you haven't even started handing money out yet.
	What are you talking about?
	The same type of stuff that we saw with the FDA. As soon as someone with the Children's Health Defense group saw they were going to be pegylating this mRNA stuff, As bad as the mRNA nanoparticles were and everything.
	They got a pegylated thing. He called up and he said, you know, that's going to put a lot of people in anaphylactic shock.
	And so the FDA said, well, we don't care.
	Call Pfizer. See if they care.
	And of course, Pfizer didn't care either.
	I mean, they were warned.
	They knew. And it was all by design, quite frankly.
	I really don't think they're that stupid.
	And multiple people told them before, during, all of this stuff, what was going on, they did it anyway.
	So, it was meant to help those who were laid off due to the pandemic, says WND. You notice, I just can't get past this, you know, misdirection that they have.
	No, people were laid off due to the lockdown mandates of Trump and Fauci.
	And they were mandates.
	Let's not whitewash this for Trump.
	They will not mention Trump anywhere in this article.
	They'll mention all of his programs, but it was the pandemic, it was COVID-19, it was the pandemic era, all the rest of this stuff.
	Makes me sick.
	And this is why this grifter keeps going.
	Using statistical modeling, GAO used this data sample to estimate that the total amount of fraud in pandemic unemployment insurance programs was between $100 and $135 billion.
	About a year of Ukraine.
	Not only were taxpayers defrauded of billions, but the Department of Labor anticipated this, you see?
	They knew it was going to happen.
	They even awarded, rather than doing anything or listening to people who are warning them about fraud, what they said was, well, give the states $1.5 billion to investigate the fraud that we know we're going to create.
	And as they investigated and brought people in, they have now recovered $1.2 billion.
	They haven't even recovered the cost of what was given out there in anticipation of this fraud for the investigations.
	Less than the cost of the investigation.
	Since 2018, GEO made 26 recommendations to the Department of Labor to prevent fraud and overpayments.
	But so far, 16 of those have not yet been fully implemented.
	They implemented 10 out of 26.
	And that's over four years.
	Two years of Trump and two years of Biden.
	Just in case you think there's a big difference between these guys.
	One of them is going to save us.
	The hundreds of billions of dollars are wasted and stolen between various pandemic relief programs.
	No, Trump relief programs, like the Paycheck Protection Program, PPP. The reality is that PPP has always been an acronym for Public-Private Partnership.
	And this was a public-private partnership to screw everybody else in America.
	It was a government partnership, FDA partnered with Pfizer and Moderna.
	And you've got the Department of Labor partnering with the states and everybody else to defraud us, lock us down, put us on welfare, but most of the money going on fraud.
	Economic Injury Disaster Loan Program, the unemployment insurance, all this has added up to a significant part of the U.S. debt and will cost taxpayers for years to come as we finance this at much higher interest rates.
	Not a surprise, actually, because Trump has always been known as the bankruptcy king.
	That's what he's going to do in this country.
	Kicked it off. One of the precedents that he set was that he can spend $3, $4, $5, $6 trillion a year.
	Who cares? The COVID bailout of state and local governments was unnecessary, says Reason.
	No, actually, it was necessary for the money.
	Now, they're talking about the Biden money program.
	So this is not Trump. This is what Biden did in 2021, giving money to state and local governments who didn't need it.
	And we know that because they didn't spend it.
	And that's the whole point of the recent article.
	But it was necessary for Trump to give massive amounts of money in 2020 to the governments, to the governors personally, to the governors personally.
	As part of their emergency, to keep their emergency going.
	That was their bribe, just like they bribed hospitals with a 20% bonus and the awards.
	If you call somebody a COVID patient, if you put them on a ventilator, if you give them this or that, plus we'll give you a 20% bonus on everything that you do once you identify them.
	So, you know, they would test people with a PCR test before they give them any treatment as they're having a heart attack and dying.
	The mercenary people.
	And so he did that with the governors.
	He gave them this money in 2020.
	Trump gave it to them as their personal discretionary money.
	Brad Little, a good example of it, in Idaho, who kept this emergency going.
	The Republican governor...
	A Republican legislature, and like he was some kind of British colonial governor, he suspended the legislature when they called them.
	You know, this was all done in a year where most of the Republican states Would meet every other year.
	You know, Texas, Idaho, they'd meet every other year.
	So they did this in an off year.
	So these people would have to call a special session.
	And so he shut down their call to do a special session.
	And then produced some legislation to keep this stuff going and to push the vaccine.
	And to punish people who didn't go through the mask and lockdown stuff.
	And it was all because he had been given an amount of money, I forget the exact multiple, it was three or four times the entire state budget was given to Governor Brad Lill in Idaho by Trump in order to push the emergency.
	And it was his own personal discretionary funds.
	He could use this to buy political favors with anybody and everybody, and they all did.
	So two years after Congress authorized this hugely expensive bailout of state and local governments, the A lot of the money has not even been spent.
	And so, as Reason says, maybe it wasn't needed in the first place.
	States have only spent 45% of the funding that they got.
	Local jurisdictions have only spent 38% of the money they got.
	This is the $2 trillion.
	Again, the Trump precedent.
	$2 trillion that was done in March of 2021.
	They didn't spend it because they don't need it.
	But it was necessary, very necessary, in 2020 to get the governors to go along with it.
	Now, coming out of the UK, they're doing a much better job of exposing these frauds than we are in the United States.
	Of course, we had the exposure of Matt Hancock, who was their guy who was running all the lockdown stuff and everything.
	Remember that? The guy who had to resign in shame after he was caught meeting a married woman, having an affair with her, I don't even like that word, adultery, with her violation of all of his rules.
	And then they subsequently got his text messages and he's passing text messages back and forth to people laughing about those people they'd put into quarantine, what they were doing to them.
	Saying, yeah, what should we do next?
	You clearly can see from just that one guy who is their lockdown czar, the sheer hypocrisy, the cynical mocking of people who they had scared literally to death.
	And those who were not afraid.
	We're being ruthlessly punished for violating these draconian rules.
	And so now they're looking at the guy they call Professor Lockdown.
	His name is Neil Ferguson.
	He was the architect of the lockdown.
	As a matter of fact, he was the architect of...
	He was used by Fauci and Trump to lock us down.
	He was the guy who did the model at the Imperial College of London.
	Oh, that sounds so impressive, doesn't it?
	Saying everybody's going to die.
	As a matter of fact, Trump is still selling that lie.
	In every interview where they challenge him on the vaccines.
	Look, this is great. It was going to be millions of people who died if I didn't get the vaccine out there.
	And so, you know, I saved everybody around the world.
	No. No.
	All of that is based on Professor Lockdown's failed climate model.
	Sounds like some kind of a children's fable, doesn't it?
	Yeah, it was kind of a children's fable.
	Yeah. Some expect Roald Dahl to do, you know.
	Anyway, they're now on to him.
	Professor Ferguson's terrifying March 2020 models warned that 500,000 Brits would die.
	Of course, it was many millions of Americans.
	Unless tougher action was taken to curb, the virus had spread.
	And as I've said many times, and to say it very quickly, in his model, there was no curve.
	All this stuff about flattening the curve, right?
	That is the model that goes back to the early 1800s.
	Farr's law gave us that bell-shaped curve.
	And they said, you know, whatever they saw, whenever there was an epidemic that went through in any area, you know, whether it's cholera or typhus or smallpox, it always followed that bell-shaped curve.
	And so we had to flatten the curve.
	Well, in his model, there was no curve.
	It was a straight line going up forever.
	Every person infected would infect another 2.2 people or whatever the imaginary number was.
	Forever. Nothing was ever going to change it.
	And then it got even worse.
	The University of Edinburgh got a hold of his model and they started playing with it and they said, every time we run this, even if we have the same inputs, we get different answers.
	This is just garbage.
	15,000 lines of FORTRAN code.
	Total garbage. It's a random number generator.
	So just pick the number that you want and ship it to Boris Johnson and to Trump.
	They're stupid enough to follow through.
	It spooked Boris Johnson.
	And to adopting draconian restrictions, and also Trump.
	But this is done, this is from the Daily Skeptic, and it's done from the perspective of UK. And again, they've got this guy, and they're interrogating him now.
	Neil Ferguson, it's about time.
	So everybody was told they must stay home.
	Vaccines are the only safe route out of the pandemic.
	And they're still months away from being deployed.
	And again, this is how we knew from the very beginning, Because this is part of the modeling, part of the simulation, part of the germ games that the CIA and the NIH have been doing for 20 years.
	Going back to the first one, two months before 9-11.
	So, Professor Ferguson quit his role as a sage advisor two months after being caught breaking the social distancing rules to meet his married lover, just like Matt Hancock.
	Both of these guys...
	Lying adulterers.
	Look at Trump and his multiple marriages and how he treated his wives.
	It is something of a character issue, isn't it?
	If somebody will break their oath to their wife, if they'll lie, you can't trust them.
	We used to understand that as a country.
	It used to be important.
	All these philandering presidents would have to keep their mistresses secret.
	They have no shame anymore.
	And the conservatives and the evangelicals just love Trump in spite of all that.
	He's a man of no character, just like Matt Hancock and just like lockdown Professor Ferguson.
	So anyway, this is part of an inquiry.
	Now, there's going to be information that comes out of this stuff, but understand that these inquiries, these commissions to investigate, are really there as part of a cover-up.
	The 9-11 Commission was there as a cover-up.
	The JFK Assassination Commission was there as a cover-up.
	The Climate Gate Commission, or inquiry that they had in the UK, was there to cover it all up and to explain it away.
	And that will be the outcome, the final outcome of all this stuff.
	But as we start to get these nuggets of truth, we have to understand none of these people, Matt Hancock and Ferguson, neither of them believed that any of this stuff was real.
	Neither of them believed that any of this stuff was true, that they were telling people.
	Neither of them believed that any of this stuff was necessary.
	Imperial College London professor Ferguson Professor Lockdown said, I know I'm associated very much with this particular policy, but as you'll be aware from the evidence I've given in my statement, the reality is a lot more complex.
	This is like Paul interviewing Dick Levine, who calls himself Rachel.
	Who was a child psychologist?
	Well, Senator, the truth is very complex.
	And what is truth anyway?
	That's the only response you get from these people.
	I don't think I stepped over that line to say we need to do this now.
	What I tried to do was at times just step outside the scientific advisory role to try to focus people's minds on what was going to happen and on the consequences of current trends.
	Scaring people to death, in other words.
	Their work suggested that 500,000 Brits would die if nothing was done to stop the spread of the virus.
	And there would be 250,000 deaths if two-thirds of the people caught COVID. Except that nobody died.
	Except from neglect.
	Except from non-treatment.
	Except from the death protocols pushed in the hospitals of ventilators and remdesivir.
	That is a reality.
	The reality of what happened.
	Now, this is interesting.
	In New Zealand, we had Jabs send to Arden.
	This is a very important story.
	This comes from the peoplesvoice.tv.
	And I think it is out of, well, I'm not sure where it is.
	The peoplesvoice.tv.
	So spread this around. The New Zealand government exempted elites from the deadly COVID jab.
	Now, we all figured this out, right?
	They get placebos, right?
	Well, actually, we've got the proof.
	They did what is called in America a FOIA. They call it an OIA. O-I-A. Same thing.
	And they got the documents from these people to show how they were granting vaccine exemptions to the elite.
	New Zealand's Ministry of Health granted vaccine exemptions to key staff while hypocritically rolling out the world's most draconian vaccine mandates and assisting that the public be vaccinated.
	The hypocritical vaccine exemptions from the elite, says the People's Voice, We're granted by former Prime Minister Jab Sinda Arden's government before she stood down and accepted a new role at the World Economic Forum's global, quote, disinformation czar.
	That's her position now.
	She's going to attack free speech.
	Arden's decision to allow the elite to refuse a vaccine while forcing the vax on normal people was revealed.
	By an official information act, OIA request, dated 2nd of August, 2023.
	And it asked the question, according to the legislation at the time in 2021, there were operational exemptions available for those who are not getting vaccinated against COVID-19.
	Your website outlines the process for applying for an operated exemption under Clause 12A. How many requests were received?
	And how many were approved by the Ministry of Health?
	What an Orwellian title that is.
	Oh yeah, the Ministry of Love, where they have the police state inquiry.
	The Ministry of Truth, where they send you the propaganda.
	And this is New Zealand's Ministry of Health.
	Well, they replied and they said from the 13th of November 2021 to 26th September 2022.
	And that's, again, after they approved, you know, give the emergency authorization for these untested vaccines.
	A total of 478 applications for significant service disruption exemption were received.
	103 applications were granted, covering approximately 11,005 workers.
	Please note, it's not possible to provide the exact number of workers covered by this, because it was possible for an organization to submit an application to That would cover more than one worker.
	So they granted 103 applications.
	They granted about one-fifth of the applications that people asked for.
	It was just under 500, and they granted 100 of them.
	But that was 11,000 people, approximately.
	Now, let's talk about how many people there are in New Zealand and how many government workers.
	I looked this up. Of course, the population in New Zealand is just over 5 million people.
	And they have 57,149 people.
	Government workers. And so these are public employees that were granted this exemption, and for the most part, because, you know, a lot of them are doctors, of course, they're public employees, government health here.
	So they're saying that about 20% of them were exempted of the government workers.
	Now, the other people who, you can bet that the people out there actually doing the work did not get exempted.
	It's the people at the top. Guy Hatcher reports and says, I've made inquiries and found some staff prepared to leak information.
	One source has told me that 95 consultants in the Dunedin region alone benefited from vaccine exemptions.
	Another source has pointed to a group of doctors working in Northland who arranged among themselves to remain unvaccinated.
	That total appears to be hundreds and possibly more.
	It seems that those granted exemptions were restrained by gag orders.
	Gag orders. Right?
	I'm not going to... Just between us.
	You don't have to get this thing.
	But you're going to help us to push this, right?
	But you better not tell anybody about this.
	Yeah, not the mask orders.
	These are gag orders.
	Everybody upset about Trump's gag orders?
	This ought to go global, this story.
	Let's talk about the gag orders about the people who were given exemptions and didn't have to get the vaccines even though they were crafting the policy and administering the vaccines to other people.
	They didn't have to get it themselves.
	That's the kind of gag order we ought to be...
	You mean Trump can't throw personal insults to the people who are opposing him in court?
	Oh, the First Amendment is over now.
	Yeah, died under him, actually.
	They could not tell anyone that they've been granted exemptions.
	It was a secretive process that the Ministry of Health was anxious to hide from the public.
	Yeah, the Orwellian Ministry of Health.
	In any case, any doctor advising a patient that the mRNA vaccine might be risky faced disciplinary action, and many of them were actually suspended.
	So medical staff allowed themselves to be manipulated into a position whereby if they were unvaccinated themselves, they were still required to advise their patients to vaccinate.
	Widespread hypocrisy.
	Cynical, criminal hypocrisy.
	Whatever happened to medical ethics?
	Whatever happened to first do no harm?
	Gone, folks.
	Understand the corporate hospital system or the government hospital system, as you see in New Zealand and most other countries, is hopelessly corrupt.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	This process was certainly approved by Dr.
	Ashley Bloomfield, who himself gained considerable notoriety by refusing vaccine exemptions to those among the public who had already been severely injured by the first shot.
	He said, okay, I don't care that you were severely injured by the first shot.
	You survived.
	Get another one. And he got an exemption.
	Or he approved these.
	So insisting that they continue along with the vaccination schedule.
	Given Dr. Bloomfield's close work with Jabsinda Arden and Chris Hipkins, it is quite likely that they were both aware of the process and approved it.
	The opposition leaders were also kept in the loop.
	So when you look at this video here of Jabsinda, and she's never looked better with her horse face covered with a mask, it ought to be required for her at least.
	But you look at her getting this jab they put out there for everybody.
	Do you believe that that's real?
	Do you believe that's a placebo?
	I do. I believe that all of these people like Trump and Biden and Jabs and Arden, I believe they were all posturing with all this stuff while they cynically poisoned their own people.
	That's the reality.
	The criteria for granting exemptions.
	Apparently entailed an assessment concerning how vital staff were to the working of the health department.
	Oh, okay. So, wouldn't you say, because this is the argument that they use for us, well, hospital people, you need to get it first.
	Because, you know, if you don't get it, you're going to spread it.
	If you don't get the shot, you're going to spread this deadly virus.
	So the argument has been that it's necessary for the health people to get it, but instead they looked at this and they said, well, wait a minute.
	How vital are our staff?
	If it's somebody that we think is really important, not necessarily that they're necessary, but they've got good connections.
	If they're vital staff, this is an admission that they believe that this is very risky, right?
	If it was necessary, safe, and effective, you would give it to your vital staff first.
	They're saying, wait, we'll give them an exemption if we really need them.
	What's that tell you?
	Well, it tells you that they deliberately poisoned people.
	Used people as lab rats, just as, you know, Netanyahu can brag about that.
	To his World Economic Forum masters.
	About how they're using their people for lab rats for Pfizer.
	And of course, these people did the same thing.
	How many ways do we need to cut this?
	You see these people using their people as an experiment.
	You see other people saying, well, those of us who are important, we're not going to take it.
	We'll give it to the hoi polloi out there.
	Senior officials and those holding key surgical positions could actually insist that That they remain unvaccinated and continue to be allowed to work.
	While there were brutal recriminations against anybody who warned the public, brutal recriminations against anybody else who didn't get it.
	So why did senior medical staff choose to remain unvaccinated?
	Ask this article.
	Well, we all know. Because they're liars, they're hypocrites, and they're murderers for hire.
	They may have been made aware, says this article, of a 2019 paper that was in the Frontiers of Oncology Journal, Cancer Journal, that was titled, Gene Therapy Leaves a Vicious Cycle.
	You know, we're seeing that this stuff has all these different effects and how it doesn't stop.
	And this is what they said in the Journal of Oncology.
	Gene therapy leaves a vicious cycle.
	They said, gene therapy has been caught in a vicious cycle for nearly two decades, owing to immune response.
	Insertional mutagenesis, viral tropism, off-target activity, unwanted clinical outcomes ranging from illness to death of participants, and from patchy regulations for two decades.
	We haven't approved any of this stuff because it kills people, it mutates people, it causes cancer, it accelerates cancer, and on and on and on.
	They knew it! They knew it!
	And now, what is it? Now, that's the new race.
	We've got to have mRNA for everything.
	You've got to put mRNA in your food, even.
	Inject it into the animals.
	Make food. Reproduce all of this stuff.
	Look, this is one of the reasons why Moderna had been around for over a decade.
	And they'd never had a market that came to...
	Never had a product that got to market.
	They existed off of all these fairy tale stories that they would tell people on Wall Street.
	Hopium. They were selling copium on Wall Street.
	And everybody said, oh, look, we got this new drug, and it's done these great trials, and it does this and does that.
	Wow, that sounds amazing.
	That's going to be amazing. You can use this mRNA stuff, and it's going to cure this and cure that.
	And yet, when they would go to the trials, everybody said, well, you know, it's killing participants.
	We have all these unwanted clinical outcomes.
	So they never got anything approved until Trump and Operation Warp Speed.
	Same story as remdesivir.
	You know, for years, they said it destroys, I think it's your liver, it destroys your body, it destroys your organs, and it doesn't do anything.
	He tried to sell it for AIDS, he tried to sell it for Ebola, but then again, you know, with Trump and Fauci, they got it approved for the imaginary virus.
	So, yeah, for two decades, nobody did it.
	Incredibly against the evidence, the government in New Zealand, the government in the United States, still encouraging the public to get vaccinated.
	That's right. 2% of the people will do it too in the United States.
	And then there's this.
	The 2023 excess death data across different countries.
	Now, this is very incriminating.
	This is an excellent article.
	The... The People's Voice.
	Okay, so what they did was they looked at the most highly vaccinated nations and the least vaccinated nations, and they looked at the excess death rate.
	And so the most highly vaccinated nations, Portugal, Chile, Canada, Iceland, New Zealand, Spain, Australia, The average percentage of the population vaccinated with those nations, 91%.
	There are excess deaths so far this year, this year, 2023.
	12% above the five-year historical average.
	12% of the people killed by that.
	91% of the people vaccinated, 12% more than the usual number of deaths.
	In the least COVID-vaccinated nations, The Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Poland, Estonia, Czech Republic, Hungary, Switzerland.
	The average percentage of the population vaccinated is only 63%.
	Their rate of excess deaths so far in 2023 is zero.
	Zero percent.
	And they point out in this that...
	The insurance companies, the actuaries, insurance companies make a lot of money.
	They make a lot of money by predicting across the board how many people are going to die.
	They've got it down to an exact science.
	And this is why it was such groundbreaking news when, at the beginning of 2022, we were told that that big insurance company out of Indiana, One America, I think, if I remember the name correctly, They said, we have seen something you wouldn't expect in hundreds of years.
	This is more than three standard deviations away from the mean, the number of people who died.
	And it began in the third quarter of 2021, not during the so-called pandemic, began when they rolled out the vaccines.
	And then it continued on in the fourth quarter and so forth, when everybody was getting vaccinated.
	And then he spends the CEO lies to you.
	He says, well, we were told that these were not COVID deaths, and yet I know they were.
	You know they were? You know better than the people who got the data?
	And he says, and furthermore, I also know that nobody's going to die if they get the vaccine.
	So these people, I say, died of COVID, and I say it was only the unvaccinated, so we're going to go up on the insurance rates of the unvaccinated.
	This is why I say this is a public-private partnership to kill us all.
	And so 0% in those least vaccinated, 63% of the people vaccinated, only 0% excess deaths.
	And the places where they got 91% of the population vaccinated, 12% excess death.
	12% over the usual.
	Yeah, what does that tell us?
	It tells us that the father of the jab...
	Trump, who calls himself the father of the vaccine, is a mass murderer.
	And he's our most popular politician.
	It's just like going to China and seeing all of these posters of Mao.
	We'll never get over it.
	It'll never change. Trump will always be a hero.
	When he dies, he will have been assassinated by the deep state and the globalists, except he was for them.
	Mao killed probably 100 million of his own people unnecessarily, deliberately, for power.
	You could try to make an excuse and say, well, he just didn't know what he was doing with the Great Leap Forward and sending everybody out in the fields who didn't know anything about growing stuff.
	No, it was deliberate.
	And they still worship him.
	And Trump will still be worshipped with all this stuff.
	And the Pfizer trial, the unvaccinated control group, were all vaccinated after just a couple of months to make sure that nobody saw any long-term effects.
	But even though they vaccinated them, before they vaccinated people, they saw a huge difference in people who had very severe outcomes or death because of that.
	This is why they're exposed to fraud.
	And perhaps we'll start to spell fraud with a P in front of it, like we spell Pfizer with a P in front of it.
	So according to the OECD, there were 1.2 million excess deaths in 2022.
	To give you a starter figure about what Trump killed.
	Because that's not even counting the hospital death protocols of 2020.
	And so the take on this is the one thing that I'm concerned about with this article.
	I say, now it's becoming accepted that both COVID and COVID vaccinations began their lives in a biotech lab.
	It doesn't seem to matter much what proportion of excess deaths are due to COVID and what are due to COVID vaccination.
	Well, I disagree with that.
	We must not buy this gain-of-function lie.
	About that is a tactic that is being used by all the mainstream media.
	It's being used by these politicians, these cynical, murdering politicians, being used by them as an excuse for the vaccine industry and to target China.
	The Wu flu, the China flu, the this, that, right?
	Right. It's to help to generate anger about China.
	No. We were shot and killed by our own government.
	And I began the show today with this because I want you to understand as they push us further and further into war, they don't want us to take a side.
	You understand? These people kill their own people.
	Netanyahu killed his own people.
	The guy who's pushing this war.
	You trust him with any of this stuff?
	You trust any of these narratives coming out, even about this hospital thing?
	I don't. Don't trust these people.
	Don't follow them.
	Don't fall into their pattern of fear.
	They had people killing themselves three years ago, two years ago.
	And now they want you to do it again.
	This 4D chess stuff.
	And it's the alternative media that's pushing it as well.
	Oh, they're pushing this lab stuff really hard.
	Really hard. Which is a way to excuse these people.
	Well, you know, this lab thing, it was so dangerous, we had to do something.
	Yeah, we made some mistakes because we rushed it, but we had to rush it because the lab stuff from China was so dangerous.
	No. No.
	That was a lie. You killed people with your hospital death protocols.
	For something that wasn't dangerous.
	Tell people to go home, come back when you're really sick, and then we'll put you on a ventilator and we'll give you remdesivir.
	Not going to give you any treatment.
	We're going to withhold that. We're going to take people's licenses if they give you hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin or any of this stuff.
	So, again, what are the motivations of these ministries of health and these politicians who do this to us?
	Well, don't worry.
	We just need to fight over Trump and over Biden.
	Because, you know, they both killed us.
	But one of them, Trump, is going to save us.
	Thank you on Roxanne.
	Brandon Bennett, thank you very much for the tip.
	On Rumble, Braves Girl, thank you also.
	Have you thought about asking author William Forshen, who wrote the One Second After series, to come on your show?
	I'll look that up.
	I'm not familiar with either one of those, but thank you for the tip.
	On Rumble, I'm wondering, one second after, was that an EMP thing or something?
	I'm not sure. Rumble.
	B Slice. Thank you very much for the tip.
	Hi, David. Was just in South Dakota for a fishing trip.
	Drove by a house with a huge sign saying, only God and Trump can save us.
	The brainwashing is real.
	Yeah, it is. I'm surprised that they don't put Trump first.
	You know, God is Trump's co-pilot, right?
	No, Jesus is my savior, not the guy who jabbed us, right?
	Jab us. Jab us is going to save us all.
	Rockfin, defund the politics.
	I agree with that. Thank you very much for the tip.
	David Travis, love the show.
	Keep speaking truth. Well, thank you very much.
	So... And I just got a message that Tony can't do the interview today where there's something happening with construction.
	Very loud outside where he's got his studio set up.
	But we still will have planning on having Sheriff Mack join us.
	We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	Well, let's talk about some things you already know.
	Walmart is spying on Ozempic patients' shopping habits and finds that they're buying less food.
	So let's think about this.
	You know, they don't think that we know, but we do know, don't we, that processed food is designed to be addictive?
	That Ozempic is designed to suppress appetite?
	What a surprise for the Walmart people.
	But as part of this, we learned that, of course, Walmart is spying on you.
	But we knew that as well, too, didn't we?
	They think you don't know, but you do.
	As Bloomberg reports, a Walmart executive admitted that the company has been looking at anonymized customer data.
	Yeah, right. Finding that shoppers taking the diabetes drug and its weight loss management counterpart, Wegevee, are buying less food.
	We do see a slight pullback in overall basket, is the way he puts it.
	An overall basket.
	So... Semaglutide works by mimicking the natural intestinal hormone, which alerts the brain to stomach fullness and essentially sends signals to stop you from being hungry.
	So, what a surprise that they would find this out, right?
	The problem is it also has some adverse effects, which we also all know.
	You can lose interest in food, you can have intestinal blockage, or...
	Worst case scenario, you can have stomach paralysis.
	What is that?
	Well, it's the stomach muscles gradually starting to atrophy.
	And you're just kind of locking up and they're no longer moving anything.
	And it causes unbelievable pain and cramping.
	And many other more serious things.
	It makes people who have taken it and talked about their side effects.
	One woman said, I wish I had never seen this stuff.
	It made my life absolute hell.
	And it has cost me so much money to get treatment for this.
	Another woman who is a teacher said, I had to quit my job because I just kept vomiting all the time.
	So, you know, there's that.
	Talking about pharmaceutical drugs here.
	The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this week that investors behind Campbell's Soup and the makers of Slim Jim Meat Sticks are already asking tough questions about the companies that they own a stake in.
	Stakeholders are asking this.
	How are you going to deal with these drugs that kill people's appetites?
	Bloomberg reported that the CEO of a Kellogg subsidiary that makes Cheez-Its and Pringles Is, quote, by no means complacent as the drug's potential to cut into this company's profit margins grows.
	So, new data suggests that a whopping 1.7% of Americans have already been prescribed semaglutide drugs.
	That's about the number of people.
	It's almost the number of people still taking these boosters.
	I guess you can't. Please find people who are going to take this stuff.
	And look, you know, for some people it's worked.
	And, you know, you can have very serious issues with diabetes and weight issues like that.
	I understand that. I'm just saying, you better understand the downsides of this.
	And we'll talk about that a little bit more.
	But first of all, from the business standpoint, the Walmart CEO said that because the retailer sells Ozempic and Wagabee through its pharmacies, it actually has seen a boost in revenue.
	Even as they're losing money on the drugs.
	As the expensive drug continues to be massively prescribed.
	So understand, they make more money on junk drugs than they do on junk food at Walmart.
	Because when we look at one of the side effects that people are not talking about too much is links to suicide from this drug.
	And I look at this, and it's like, why do so many?
	I see this so often. Why do so many non-psychoactive drugs, why do so many of them?
	And, you know, you look at SSRI, and it's like, well, that's supposed to affect people's moods and things like this.
	It's prescribed by psychiatrists and stuff for that purpose, so you could expect that.
	Well... Maybe it's going to give people suicidal ideation, which it does and drives many people to suicide, and a very dangerous drug.
	But this is a diet drug, an appetite suppressor.
	Why is this causing people to commit suicide or suicidal ideation?
	It's amazing to me how many of these pharmaceutical products make people want to kill themselves.
	And I'm not talking about people wanting to kill themselves because of the health issues that these pharmaceutical drugs do to people.
	The FDA has received hundreds of reports of suicidal thoughts and depression from patients on weight loss medications since 2010, as well as 36 deaths by suicide or suspected suicide.
	A significant number occurred shortly after starting the drugs or upping those doses, only to subside when the patients stopped taking them.
	And so they're saying, well, this is a very small number of people that are out there.
	But look, where there's smoke, there's fire.
	We've heard this type of story over and over again.
	It's rare. You know, we've got blood clots here, but it's rare, right?
	No. I wanted to tell people about this because it may not be so rare.
	Dr. Eric Turner, who used to work for the FDA, said that many patients stopped suffering suicidal thoughts When they came off of the drug, making it hard to explain away the suicidality.
	That's actually the word they used.
	So it's drugs like Wegevee, Ozempic, Monjaro, made by Eli Lilly, if I'm pronouncing these made-up names correctly.
	And so some people are saying, well, we want to have a warning for suicide.
	The black label.
	That Kim Wotsick that I talked to, if I remember her name correctly, I think it was Wotsick or something, she fought for years to get that done.
	Finally got it done for SSRIs.
	Clearly an issue with that.
	Thousands of documented cases now with that.
	But it took a while for them to get that out there.
	But they're still selling it.
	But it does have a black label on it.
	And so Kim went to...
	It's a consumer representative on their FDA panels and everything, and she's pushing very hard against this stuff, but they keep approving these things.
	With these drugs, you go weekly and you get an injection.
	So one 53-year-old mother of four from Ohio...
	Ms. Heidelbaugh revealed that she started taking the drug every Sunday and that by Tuesday she said she would feel lethargic, depressed, and at times suicidal, believing her family would be better without her.
	The symptoms would persist for a few days, she said, and then return shortly after her next injection.
	They only didn't appear when she skipped a dose.
	She had no history of depression.
	Anything else like that? She said, I knew it was the drug.
	Another patient, Sarah Sobel, 40 years old, from Buffalo, New York, revealed how it had left her with panic attacks, hallucinations, suicidal thoughts, same stuff that the SSRI things did to people.
	She began to take it in 2021 for weight loss, but stopped after these side effects appear.
	She said, if somebody had said, this is a side effect, you're not losing your mind, it really would have helped me.
	I thought I would end up in a psych ward.
	I was terrified I would not be normal again ever.
	A third patient, Lisa Wood, 22, who lost 70 pounds from the drug, said she also had suicidal thoughts while on it.
	I was driving and I thought, what if I just jerked the wheel on this bridge?
	It didn't occur to me that it was Weggamy.
	Reminds me, it's that Hen and her sisters, I think it was.
	And it was a Woody Allen film.
	And it had Christopher Walken in it when he was pretty young.
	And Woody Allen is in the seat next to him and Christopher Walken character is driving.
	And he's saying, you know, you ever thought about what it would be like just to jerk the wheel and hit this car?
	And he's like, what?
	Get me out of here.
	Anyway, sorry, that's off the side.
	Anyway, fourth patient. Only gave her first name.
	So she also had suicidal thoughts while on Wegevee.
	She repeatedly visualized shooting herself.
	She's a nurse. She said one evening the symptoms became so bad she went to the ER and they gave her anxiety medications and the doctor told her, you're a mom.
	This happens when you get overtired.
	Well, there you go. So you should have aborted these kids.
	That's the problem. It's not the pharmaceutical drugs.
	Several users also raised concerns on social media saying that they were feeling hollow and as though they rarely anything makes me happy, they said.
	So... We've seen this, they said before, in 2008, Sanofi's Accomplia weight loss drug was withdrawn in Europe after being linked to suicidal thoughts.
	It was never approved in the U.S. The weight loss drug Contravie carries a black box warning about suicidal thinking.
	And another obesity medicine, Q-Symia, also has a warning telling patients to stop taking it if they experience suicidal thoughts.
	Well, maybe we should put black labels on the Pringles and the other junk food stuff and say, you know, you might wind up being obese and go down this path of taking a drug and suicidal, but it may also be a kind of a form of suicide as we can't control our addiction to these things, you know? They're highly addictive, and they've designed the food, the junk food, to be highly addictive.
	I remember my grandfather, before junk food even got popular, he died...
	Before I was five years old, and I don't remember him saying this, but my mom told me, she said, most people, a lot of people, will dig their grave with a knife and a fork.
	And we should think about what we eat.
	Definitely should. Anyway, some other things that you probably also knew, but other people have now just shown.
	Six months ago, NPR left Twitter.
	They were angry with Elon Musk and his label of it being essentially a propaganda organization, which it is.
	And so they said the effects have been negligible.
	They said Twitter was not worth the effort.
	It certainly isn't worth the effort for me.
	And of course now Elon Musk is talking about charging people by the tweet.
	If you don't pay subscription for a monthly thing, he's going to start it and do a test case, he said, in some small countries.
	But if you don't pay it on a monthly basis, then he'll charge you per tweet, like a buck per tweet or something.
	Who's going to use that?
	They essentially got what they wanted.
	They arranged an advertiser boycott.
	He's losing a lot of money, so he looks at other ways to make the money back and put it on user fees.
	I don't think it's a viable model.
	But it's certainly, regardless of all that, it's not been a viable model for me for five years.
	I've been censored. I've been shadow banned.
	It is absolutely useless for me to do any work on social media.
	And as I will post up videos that we do, but I'm not really interested in interacting with people or pushing any news out on social media.
	I just think it's a waste of time.
	Definitely a waste of time for me.
	And even NPR said it was a waste of time for them.
	Six months later, they said we can see the effects of leaving Twitter have been negligible.
	A memo circulated to NPR staff says traffic has dropped by only 1% as a result of leaving Twitter now officially.
	And let me just say this.
	Since I don't do anything on social media, it's worthless for me to try to do it, if I'm even allowed on the platform.
	If you could like even on the platforms where you watch it, if you could like the broadcast, if it's on a video platform, if it's on an audio podcast platform, If you could like it, if you could share it, if your friends see that type of thing, that would help us a great deal.
	That would be far more effective than anything I could do.
	And if you don't like it that much to share it, then maybe we shouldn't be doing it anyway.
	Netflix is going to open up brick-and-mortar locations.
	I've got to say, I didn't see this coming.
	This is really bizarre.
	Before I get into that, though, let me respond to some of the people who left comments and tips as well.
	Thank you. On Rockfin, MJ Nichols, thank you for the tip.
	Reading one second after right now.
	Halfway through, it appears to be a good book.
	It's the first in a series of three or four, I believe.
	Again, I don't know what that is.
	Is that an EMP or something like that?
	On Rockfin...
	Michael Pomeroy, thank you for the tip.
	He said, Good morning, David. Everyone needs to revisit Hour 3 yesterday on the 18th of October.
	The interview with George Barna was not just your usual great but spectacular.
	Well, thank you. I thought it was very interesting.
	This is a guy who has a wealth of information.
	He is the most quoted person in terms of giving people a pulse as to what is happening with Christians and the church and people's beliefs and worldviews in general in the society.
	He founded the Barna Group.
	He's now with Arizona Christian University or something.
	And he's got another organization that he's set up.
	But he's been watching this stuff for decades.
	And he summarized the findings that he had in this latest book.
	So I'd highly recommend his book as well.
	But yeah, do check out that interview.
	He is a fascinating person.
	And he's got a lot of experience and a lot of wisdom about this stuff.
	On Rockfan, Dougalug, thank you very much for the tip.
	He says the term Zion has forever referred to the city of David, adjacent to the Temple Mount, also known as the city of God.
	A Zionist would be someone who believes God, but the term has been bastardized by the enemies of God.
	It's just another way Satan is tearing down the name of God and Christianity and the people of God.
	Thank you, David. Yeah, and when I... Okay, Travis, but now one second after is an EMP novel.
	Okay. But getting back to Dougalug's comment, that's why I'm not going to get into this.
	I'm not going to get into the end times theology or the rest of this stuff.
	I would just point out to people that, you know, it's not just the Palestinians, but in our country, in our country, we don't have a significant Palestinian presence yet.
	These people want to change this.
	But we see what has happened in different countries where there has been a significant Palestinian presence.
	We see what happened in Lebanon, for example.
	Destroyed that formerly prosperous, mostly Christian nation.
	And it's why the other Arab nations don't want them in.
	This is not racism.
	It's just a characteristic of their culture, their religion, whatever you want to look at it as.
	But understand that in our country, The same attitude of calling Americans colonizers is rooted in everything these Marxists and colleges and other places are doing.
	That's why they've got this knee-jerk reaction to anything that happens in the Middle East.
	That's the other side of this.
	And so I have said that regardless, you know, I come at it from a biblical worldview.
	People have different eschatologies as to what they think is happening with this.
	But I don't, you know, I've said to people, I said, you know, when you look at what you believe about Israel or what you believe about the end of the world, it's a big mistake to try to make that happen.
	God will make that happen.
	And so we have Christians who believe that they're, you know, in the pre-tribulation rapture.
	So they would love to see a situation where they don't have to go through some great tribulation and they don't have to die.
	They'd love to get just raptured out of here, you know.
	And so those people, many of them, We'll kind of take the attitude.
	I've talked to many of them myself.
	Oh yeah, just the end of the world.
	It's great. Rapture's coming soon.
	It's like, no, you have to oppose this.
	You're here now. And you have to oppose tyranny and justice to your fellow man and all the rest of this stuff.
	God has not told us exactly when or how he's going to do any of this stuff.
	But he has told us what he wants you to do.
	He wants you to defend the widow, help the orphans.
	He wants you to fight injustice, to stop the exploitation of your fellow man, and to follow Christ in many other ways.
	And not just those social things.
	There's many other things that you need to do.
	Be a witness for Christ, no matter what the social consequences are.
	And so, that's your revealed will of God.
	You know, based on your eschatology or whatever you believe is going to happen, you don't know the timing of that.
	And you don't know exactly how this is going to be accomplished.
	And I use the example of Abraham.
	Who? God told him, you're going to be the father of many nations.
	He's old. Sarah's old.
	And so he decides he's going to take it into his own hands because nothing's happening.
	I'm getting older. You know, I believe God's going to do this.
	Oh, yeah, God's going to do this. But maybe he needs my help.
	God doesn't need your help.
	And just look at the story of Ishmael and Hagar and how Abraham took it into his own hands.
	And so we don't do that.
	I know what I'm supposed to do regardless of whether or not the world ends tomorrow or not.
	And I know what I'm supposed to do whatever God is going to do with Israel.
	And that doesn't give anybody a free pass to murder people or to harm people.
	It doesn't give a free pass to any government regardless of what your theology is.
	You got some clear directions about this.
	And that's why we put the principles of a just war.
	That's why we oppose terrorism, whether it's done by individuals or by a state.
	Because God doesn't need our help.
	He needs our obedience and all of this stuff.
	So let's talk a little bit.
	We'll take a break and then we'll come back and we'll talk about what is happening in some of this other news.
	Some things that you already know, I guess we could put it that way.
	We'll be right back. You're
	listening to The David Knight Show.
	On Rockfin, Real McCoy, thank you for the tip.
	He says, wow, fantastic coverage of the People's Voice article.
	They do great videos.
	Well, that explains why it's peoplesvoice.tv.
	I did not know that.
	I'll take a look at them as a source in the future.
	It was a great article.
	But he says, I can't wait to share the clip of your show about this deadly fraud.
	Well, thank you very much.
	We'll make that a clip today.
	We'll put that out on the video channels as a clip.
	Again, I was interested when I saw this Netflix thing about opening brick-and-mortar locations.
	And this is something that is kind of a personal interest looking at this, which I thought was kind of...
	We used to have video stores.
	We got started in it in the mid-1980s after there was a Supreme Court case.
	The movie studios didn't want their videos rented.
	And if you remember in the early days, you know, when you would go to Beta Barn before it became VHS Village...
	That you would have to pay a large amount for a membership fee.
	And they were doing that kind of stuff to try to get around these restrictions.
	You know, it was a profit center and they charged a lot to rent these things.
	The tapes were very expensive. But, you know, they were doing this membership thing in the same way that people have to do the membership thing in order to get raw milk and stuff like that, you know.
	And so, anyway, there was a...
	Supreme Court case, and it was a doctrine of first sale.
	And what they said was, well, once you sell this to somebody, you don't have any authority about what they're going to do with it.
	And so they can rent it if they want to.
	And that opened up the gates because what happened was their response then was to raise the price even higher and then also release their catalog.
	And that's when we got interested in it.
	And I was going to do a point-of-sale thing.
	That's how we originally got into it.
	And so I wrote a point-of-sale thing that worked on the Macintosh, which was still early.
	And it also just come out with their first hard drive, which...
	I had 5 megabytes of storage, but I figured a way to cram all that stuff in there.
	And it wasn't long before those hard drive rates started going up.
	Within a year, it was up to 10 megabytes.
	But anyway, I could keep...
	I had to write my own database in it.
	Anyway, the bottom line was that the brick-and-mortar stores went away largely to what Netflix was doing.
	Now, the studios always opposed it.
	The studios, even though they made money hand over fist and even though they were able to come up with new animated films on a regular basis, they never had a failure.
	On that model.
	It could fail in the theatrical release, but it'd make a lot of money on video.
	A good example of that was the Terminator series.
	Terminator was a complete failure, James Cameron's first Terminator.
	It got discovered on video and became a huge franchise.
	But... Because if we saw something that was good, we'd tell people about it.
	And that carried a lot of weight.
	But anyway, so they decided that they were going to stop.
	They wanted to have a model where they participate in every transaction.
	And so they came up with pay per view, where you pay for each view.
	That's what they wanted to have.
	And so they came up with a model where they rented the stuff to the stores.
	And that was what Blockbuster and...
	Hollywood Video went with.
	As a small video place, we didn't do that.
	Instead, what we went was really deep in catalog.
	Because I was interested in the old movies anyway.
	And so, you know, we were okay with that.
	But, you know, Netflix, we always knew that they were planning to do this video on demand.
	It's what they called it then. Now they call it streaming.
	I had a lot of customers who worked for, I can't remember the name of the company, it was a Canadian telecom company, and they said, you know, we've got pictures of your store and other stores, and I said, we're going to replace them.
	And they were doing these video-on-demand experiments where they would go to a community and they would set up direct lines to different houses and they would have somebody sitting in this little shack and as people, they'd have a list of videos that they could watch and they had them all on cassette and somebody ordered this thing.
	They would put it in the VCR and pipe it to them just to see, just to monitor what people's spending habits were going to be.
	They liked that a lot. And so we knew that it was just a matter of time until bandwidth got there and, you know, the brick-and-mortar thing was going to disappear.
	And, you know, it's one of the reasons why when we sold the place, you know, I took all the money and put it into the people who were going to be making...
	The tools for the internet, the switching circuits and the electronics and stuff like that, you know, kind of like instead of investing in a particular company, you invest in the tools, like the people, the gold rush they invested in, the people who made a lot of money were the people who sold the picks and the axes, more so than the prospectors who went out there.
	So I thought that was going to be a safe thing.
	And, you know, it's just a lesson that, and then we had the dot-com bust.
	Which took down the tech companies as well.
	And so your timing has to be right.
	It's not enough just to see trends, as I can tell you from personal experience with all this stuff.
	But anyway, everybody's saying, what are they going to do?
	Are they going to sell DVDs?
	And I thought, well, that's kind of interesting because I really do prefer...
	Um, I still prefer the quality and the supplemental content of physical media like that.
	Uh, but I don't know that most people are looking at this and say that nobody knows what they're going to do with these stores.
	We're going to do two of them experimentally.
	They think maybe it's going to be some kind of a merchandising type of thing, uh, like Disney has done in their Disney stores, but I don't really know since they don't have a lot of well-known characters, how they're going to make that operate.
	Uh, so again, um, It is kind of interesting because even though the studios are going to try to shut everything down with...
	Video in demand.
	It was really Netflix that got there first by shipping out the DVDs by mail, even before they got to the streaming stuff.
	But anyway, I just thought that was an interesting story.
	This is something you also knew a long time ago.
	The fact that the CIA was lying to you.
	The fact that you got Leon Panetta lying to people.
	He said, no regrets, former CIA director.
	Leon Panetta in an interview with Fox's Brett Baer.
	Interesting, it was up on Drudge yesterday that Brett Baer is selling his house in Washington, D.C. for a record amount of money.
	$32 million. I wonder where they're paying this guy at Fox News.
	I'm in the wrong network here.
	Oh, wait, I'm not in a network.
	I guess that's part of it. Panetta humiliated himself as he defended the letter that he and 50 other so-called intelligence officials signed, suggesting that Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.
	Yeah, Brett Baer, the guy who was the raise-your-hand debate monitor, you know?
	That's what he did, the very first debate that Trump was in.
	Raise your hand if you'd support the other candidates, and he didn't raise his hand.
	And, of course, he did it again, and DeSantis called him out.
	And they've done that in the first two debates.
	Raise your hand. Who would you vote off the island?
	Raise your hand if this and that...
	And DeSantis has called him out on it both times and said, just stop this.
	We're not in school. You know, this is very disrespectful to people.
	We came here to talk about issues.
	That Brett Baer, they pay him so much money, he's got a $32 million home.
	I guess, you know, he'll ask the questions that they want to ask.
	But he asked him, Brett Baer said, the letter that was used in the debate, he said, I haven't asked you this, but do you have regrets about that now?
	Looking back, knowing what you now know?
	Just raise your hand if you regret this.
	And Panetta did not raise his hand.
	He does not regret. He says, well, frankly, I haven't seen any evidence from any intelligence agency that this is not the case.
	So Bear says, you don't think that was real?
	And he says, I think that disinformation is involved here.
	I think Russian disinformation is part of what we're seeing everywhere.
	Finally, I asked him if he had any regrets over how he handled the story.
	No, I don't have any regrets about not trusting the Russians.
	And you see, you know, when you look at this, of course, the CIA has always been about lies.
	The FBI agent that I interviewed, it's been decades now.
	He said, you know, it was embarrassing when we would go to other countries and the CIA was there and they would come in and they would just lie when they didn't need to lie.
	They would just make stuff up all the time and lie to the officials in this other country, the embassy official.
	And everybody knew they were lying.
	They didn't care. See, from that standpoint, Leon Panetta is exactly the kind of guy they're looking for.
	Jonathan Turley. Pointed out a couple of points here that Panetta refuses to acknowledge.
	Number one, American intelligence quickly debunked the claim and said there was no evidence of Russian disinformation behind the laptop.
	Number two, the emails contained in the laptop were quickly authenticated by other parties.
	Number three, the FBI authenticated the laptop.
	Number four, Hunter Biden has since sued over the use of his laptop.
	And the last one here, the media has independently authenticated the laptop.
	This is the man in charge of our CIA. And Brett Baer doesn't challenge him on any of those five points.
	I don't know. That's why they pay him the big bucks, I guess, because he won't challenge him on these points.
	But all the CIA does is lie.
	And of course, the big liar who lied us into the Iraq War, weapons of mass destruction based on terror, Gina Haspel, was promoted by Trump to be the head of the CIA. Of course, eminently qualified.
	Babylon Bee has declared Dylan Mulvaney Man of the Year.
	I haven't covered this. This is last week it came out because you had an LGBT magazine in the UK declared Dylan Mulvaney Woman of the Year.
	Well, Babylon Bee calls him Man of the Year.
	They said it's time once again to honor one man who's gone above and beyond to advance the cause of men and raise the bar for what other men seek to accomplish.
	The Babylon Bee has chosen Dylan Mulvaney to receive the 2023 Man of the Year Award.
	Because, you know, who else could get a woman to fall on their knees and worship them this day and age, right?
	As we saw done by Drew Barrymore to Dylan Mulvaney, the first time I ever saw him.
	And, you know, if you can get a woman to humiliate herself like that, boy, you must have some really powerful...
	Male stuff going there, I guess.
	I don't know. Mulvaney's true courage comes from taking the initiative to live within a world of his own imagination and then to stubbornly stay there with a will and determination that surpasses most other men.
	The Babylon Bee congratulates Dylan Mulvaney on his biggest year yet.
	Much like Bud Light, Mulvaney can only go up from here.
	Yeah. Well, here's a story that is difficult to believe.
	More difficult to believe than that Bill Mulvaney is a woman.
	And this is the fact that this guy got seven months in jail for a meme.
	And they came after him.
	He was sentenced yesterday.
	And they came after him.
	It was a meme that was making fun of Hillary going back to the 2016 election, Trump versus Hillary.
	And they used a statute that could have resulted in him getting 10 years in jail.
	It is a statute that is designed to stop people from interfering in elections.
	You know, kind of like the KKK has done in the past, physically blocking things and things like that.
	Like the Black Panthers did in Chicago, remember that?
	Where they showed up and they...
	Scared people away from the polls.
	Of course, they were never charged with anything.
	Instead, this guy was charged for putting this up.
	And it's like, hashtag I'm with her.
	Hashtag go Hillary. And he puts a meme there.
	Avoid the line, vote from home.
	Text Hillary to 59925.
	And vote for Hillary and be a part of history.
	And so forth and so on. Now, first of all, this is a satire.
	Nobody really believes that they can vote from home.
	And it was a satire that was really done by the other side as well.
	Take a look at this. This is a video that's put up by somebody wearing a MAGA cap and saying, Hey, Trump voters, skip the poll lines and text in your vote.
	Texts are legit.
	Or vote tomorrow on Super Wednesday.
	Same thing. Same thing.
	Except she was a lot more explicit in terms of disinformation about voters.
	Well, they did nothing to her.
	Instead, the guy who did the Trump meme...
	He's going to jail for seven months.
	His name is Doug Mackey.
	Sentenced in New York City in a sham court.
	Because, you know, once we've seen New York City over and over again, sham in everything they do.
	But, of course, you knew that, didn't you?
	Also, you know, if someone's dumb enough to fall for this, I think it's okay if we just kind of get their vote out of the system.
	That's right. It's a triage.
	Yeah. Any vote that gets siphoned off by this was a vote we didn't need.
	It was an intelligence triage.
	Yeah, but this is the weaponized political system that we now see, especially in New York.
	A real travesty, if ever there was one.
	We're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, we're going to talk about a Soros district attorney getting his comeuppance, getting a dose of his own policies.
	We'll be right back.
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	And now, The David Knight Show.
	Alright, welcome back.
	And on Rock Fan, Richard Williams, thank you very much for the tip.
	He says, we can shout Maranatha until our last breath, as many saints have done, or we can focus on what God has before us now and trust Him for our future.
	I agree with that. Thank you.
	Rock Fan, thank you, Eric.
	Appreciate that tip. That's very kind.
	Thank you. Well, let's talk about what happened to a district attorney in New Orleans.
	This guy was elected with a lot of Soros money.
	And he's been one of these people who doesn't like bail.
	I interviewed the guy this last couple of days.
	I guess it was on Monday, I think.
	I can't remember what day it was now.
	There's so much stuff here.
	But anyway, we talked about bail and the importance of bail.
	And about not just catching criminals and releasing them again on the street.
	But that is his policy.
	He doesn't want to lock these people up.
	And so he got carjacked at gunpoint there in New Orleans.
	The New Orleans district attorney, Jason Williams, the Soros district attorney.
	He was walking his 78-year-old mother to her car when two suspects approached the pair, pointed a gun at them, and demanded his car.
	The suspects then jumped into the car, drove off before abandoning the vehicle in an undisclosed location, and carjacking a young woman in her area 30 minutes later, said the New Orleans Police Department.
	And I guess, you know, when they caught these guys, this district attorney probably just turned him right out on the street.
	I mean, not only is he getting hoisted by his own batard, his own policies too, but he probably didn't do anything to these people either.
	He was elected in 2020 after Soros donated $220,000 to the Louisiana Justice and Public Safety Pact to run campaigns against his opponent.
	He ran on a platform of social justice.
	Promising to find alternatives to incarceration.
	There's an alternative to incarceration.
	Getting your own car?
	Carjacked. That's the alternative to incarceration.
	He's now learned that the hard way, but he hasn't learned his lesson.
	Maybe, I don't know if the voters have.
	And to reform the ineffective and unfair money bail system, according to his campaign website.
	Now, $220,000 is not even a lot of money for George Soros.
	He has spent millions in some of these local district attorney races that in San Antonio and other places like that.
	But again, how long will it take for people to learn what is going on?
	And the most effective way that anybody can campaign against this kind of Soros money is to point out that their opponent is being funded by Soros.
	Because it's hard to get people to understand why we need to have a money bail system and why social justice reform is destroying places like San Francisco and now New Orleans and other places like that where even the district attorney gets carjacked.
	Let's take a look at what is happening.
	You know, as I pointed out, we talked about this, you know, even the January 6th people.
	When the guy with bail, I said, you know, these guys, many of them have been given decades in jail.
	And they had to wait two or three years for their trial.
	I said, yeah, you look at how this has changed, you know, average of 60 days in jail.
	When they had the money bail system, and now the average is like 360 days or something like that.
	It's just amazing. Two years average, I think, in South Carolina, one of the states we were talking about.
	And because the alternative is you just either, if you don't have the money bail system, you just immediately release people, or you just keep them in jail until their trial.
	And it's very difficult to get a speedy trial anymore.
	Williams declined to prosecute 65% of all criminal cases in New Orleans in 2021.
	The DA still continues to prosecute, on average, only 44% of the criminals who have been charged by the police.
	So, when we look at what has happened to the J6ers, as a matter of fact, the outrageous, the trials, the punishments that many people have been given, especially people like Joe Biggs with the Proud Boys, 17 years. The prosecutors asked for 33 years.
	And in general, what the judge was doing was giving about half of the draconian sentences demanded by the prosecutors.
	And they were still draconian.
	They were still excessive punishment.
	Even half of what these people demanded was excessive.
	But now, the Department of Justice...
	I still don't see any evidence that the, you know, the Proud Boys or any of the J6ers who've been given these excessive punishments, I don't see that they have filed any appeals.
	But the Department of Justice has filed an appeal to get the sentences increased.
	It's absolutely amazing.
	And so they're going to appeal this, again, because they only got half of what they wanted.
	You know, Joe Biggs, they wanted him for 33 years.
	He only got 17, so they want to go for all 33.
	They filed notice of appeal papers on Monday, along with the four Proud Boy members convicted of seditious conspiracy.
	They are also appealing the sentencing of Dominic Pozzola and another Proud Boy member who was convicted on different charges and sentenced to 10 years in prison.
	The response from Norm Pattis, who is defending Biggs and others, said, Attorney General Merrick Garland needs to get a new hobby horse.
	He said, this appeal is ridiculous.
	Every part of this is ridiculous.
	I do hope that they appeal the sentence to the Supreme Court.
	It must be appealed, frankly.
	As we'll be talking later about...
	The push to bring in more Palestinians, if they're going to be pushed out of Gaza, let's bring them to America, say many people.
	Well, Biden's border security has got one group of people, as we know, that he doesn't want, and those are Christian refugees.
	One segment of society that is feeling the full brunt of border security persecuted Christians.
	A report shows that Joe Biden's White House has cut the resettlement of Christians fleeing persecution around the globe by 70% compared to 2016.
	And a good example of this is this German family who's been here since 2005 or 2016.
	They even have two children who were born here.
	The anchor baby thing doesn't apply to them.
	Refugee status doesn't apply to them, and they're genuine refugees.
	They did not want to send, because their religious beliefs, did not want to send their kids to a German school.
	It doesn't matter whether you agree with them.
	That's their religious belief.
	And the German government had fines against them that were greater than their entire income.
	That's religious persecution.
	And they have not been given full residency.
	Under George W. Bush, under Obama, under Trump, and then under Biden, he decided that he wanted to deport them.
	They've now been given another year, extension, but they've just been doing lists, living by, you know, one year at a time, extension.
	Open Doors, which annually ranks 50 countries, it says, are the most difficult to live in as a Christian, and World Relief, a global Christian humanitarian organization, issued a joint report in September that in 2022, the U.S. government resettled barely one-third of the number of Christian refugees who were granted asylum in 2016.
	Sounds like they've got a problem with Christians.
	And remember this when people start pushing you to bring in other groups from other places.
	Of course, the borders are wide open.
	And we've got a lot of people coming in from countries that we are at war with.
	Nothing to be concerned about that, right?
	Young male, single male men in the 20s and 30s and nations that we are at war with coming through the border in uncontrolled numbers.
	I'm sure there's nothing to worry about.
	In fact, in 2022, Christians resettled from the most threatening 50 nations for Christian persecution.
	Those were down 70% from six years earlier.
	With Obama, in 2022, compared to 2016, when Obama was president, Eritrea, Christian immigrants were down 85%.
	Those fleeing Iran were down by 95%.
	Those fleeing Myanmar and Burma were down 92%.
	Those fleeing Iraq were down 94%.
	And so it is only 1,000 Christians from those four countries resettled last year compared to nearly 13,000 in 2016.
	The document shows in April 2021, just after Biden took office, as a point, he's limited the refugee resettlement ceiling to just 15,000 a year.
	Historic low. Before 2017, when Trump got in, evidently Trump cut it as well, the average resettlement was about 81,000 per year.
	But that has been cut.
	And in Chicago...
	They are giving illegal migrants $9,000 each to cover housing costs.
	But the most amazing thing is that if you look at the Biden administration and his war on Americans, the person that he has put in charge of deciding who gets refugee status is somebody who is a rabid PLO supporter.
	Her social media shows a pattern of rabid hatred.
	To America, to anyone who is trying to come in from Israel or anything else like that.
	But she's going to rubber stamp anybody who has her radical anti-colonizer views.
	She's been very clear about that.
	So again, just remember that when you look at this, I'm in favor of just stopping immigration for a while.
	Can we just have a breathing period here?
	But more than that, We need to stop the magnet.
	And we need to also stop this push of refugees that are being pushed here by wars that are not necessary.
	Let's take a quick break and when we come back I have an interesting story that I'll give you.
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	The End
	revolutionary act You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	Give them back to me or I'll...
	It's too late. There they are and there they'll stay.
	Give me back my slippers.
	I'm the only one that knows how to use them.
	They're no use to you. Give them back to me.
	Give them back. You're wondering, I guess, why I'm playing that.
	Well, there's actually a story about a man who was able to steal the ruby slippers from the movie.
	And the people who had them as a collector's item were basically saying, give them back.
	They're of no use to you.
	And they really were of no use to him.
	You see, he thought they were real ruby slippers when he stole them back in 2005.
	And they subsequently found out that he's the guy who stole it.
	But he thought they were real rubies.
	And he took them to a pawn shop.
	And the person said, no, they're not actually ruby slippers.
	They're made out of glass.
	I look at those pictures there, and it's mostly sequins that are on there.
	The ruby sequins.
	How in the world could he be so stupid?
	To look at this and really not understand the value of it.
	To go to all the trouble to steal it.
	From the museum, they had them on display.
	It was on loan at this particular museum.
	It was on loan to the Judy Garland Museum in the late actress's hometown of Grand Rapids, Minnesota in 2005 from Hollywood memorabilia collector Michael Shaw.
	It was worth a lot to Michael Shaw.
	Just like she was saying.
	They're of no use to you.
	They're not made out of rubies.
	They're not even made out of really red glass.
	Slippers that we put sequins on.
	But it has a value to this guy for its memorabilia stuff.
	But these slippers that had no intrinsic value, I guess they were kind of like the, kind of like NFTs.
	Real world NFTs.
	He thought they were real gems.
	And so he did this back in 2005.
	They finally caught up to him.
	And he's now 76.
	He's in very poor health.
	He's facing his own death.
	These shoes, however, the real intrinsic value is the fact that there's only four authentic pairs that remain from the film, and so they took these things that are mainly sequins and glass bead bows that have no intrinsic value, but they valued them at the time at one million dollars.
	And so he snuck into the museum's emergency exit when the museum was closed.
	He smashed his way in with a sledgehammer.
	Didn't sneak in. He smashed his way in.
	And then he removed them from their plexiglass-encased display pedestal, thinking they were real rubies.
	When a stolen goods buyer informed him, this isn't real, then he didn't want to have anything to do with them.
	But these were things that were worth a million dollars to somebody else.
	He was not publicly linked to the crime until 13 years later when an FBI art crime team recovered the slippers in a sting operation after a man approached the insurer and said that he could help to get them back.
	The current market value is $3.5 million.
	Now, since this guy is not related to Joe Biden, he's looking at some serious jail time here.
	And so they rolled him into the courtroom in a wheelchair.
	He's got a paper mask.
	He was carrying an oxygen tank because, again, he is very sick, very poor health, about to die, 76, looking at a very long sentence here.
	When they first got him, he denied that he had stole the stuff.
	But he came clean at this point in time.
	And his lawyer said, well, I think Terry is facing his own mortality.
	And I think when people are reaching that point in life, they cut through the pleasantries and they talk turkey.
	Exactly right. Why is that?
	You know, he's going to go before the judge, the real judge, right?
	And just as he can't pay this three and a half million dollars, what if somebody came in the courtroom and said, well, I'll pay the three and a half million dollars to the other people.
	Make this stuff go away. That is actually what Jesus did for us as we're going to face the judge.
	There's no way, just like this man, there's no way That we could repay what we have done.
	There's no way. And that's why Jesus came.
	There's the things that we have done that we valued so much, we realized that they were illusionary, of no value whatsoever to us.
	And that's true of the billionaires who spent their entire life collecting stuff that everybody in this world wars to own.
	You know, Elon Musk is going to stand before God and he's going to realize that his accomplishments as the richest man in the world are no more valuable than these phony sequined slippers.
	And so that is where we all are.
	You know, the other part of this that I thought was interesting was the fact that here he is, you know, he's about to die.
	He's not going to keep up the pretenses anymore.
	He's going to tell people the truth.
	These deathbed confessions, they carry a lot of weight.
	That's why when we look at the hospital stuff that's there, the people on the Palestinian side are saying, well, this many martyrs died and these martyrs did this and these martyrs did that.
	Martyrs are... They have stolen that term.
	They've repurposed that term, for the most part, for people who are suicide murderers.
	Martyrs, originally, the Greek word was witness.
	And you had people who had witnessed Jesus and what he had done.
	And people who had been there refused to recant.
	What they had seen, what they testified to, what they had written down.
	Those kinds of deathbed confessions carry a lot of weight for anybody who seriously thinks about it.
	But anyway, I thought it was an interesting story.
	So many of us chase these ruby slippers, and there's a lot of ruby slippers in everybody's life, isn't there?
	So let's talk a little bit about the parking lot thing that is happening here.
	And I say the parking lot thing because it's the hospital thing.
	We've had all these different narratives.
	You know, we had the narrative that it was done by Israel.
	We had the narrative that it was done by Hamas.
	I played for you the clip yesterday.
	One person put it out there and said, see, listen to this.
	This is the sound of a JDAM missile.
	I think is the right acronym.
	And then here's the sound of the missile that hit the hospital.
	I said, well, I don't know.
	I don't know if that's the clip of it hitting the hospital or not.
	So we can't prove it by that.
	Then we had Israel put out a thing and said, well, we wiretapped this and we heard these people with Hamas or Islamic Jihad or whatever the group is saying that they did this.
	They did it by accident.
	It failed and it landed here on the hospital and so forth.
	Well, I don't know that that's, you know, we got an audio tape, two guys talking.
	Anybody can do that.
	And so I don't know that's genuine either.
	As I said yesterday, we're not really going to know what happened with this.
	Why? Because everybody is lying to us on every side of this.
	And if your reaction is, as we've seen on the streets of Europe, if your reaction is, let's kill all the Jews or let's kill all the Palestinians, if that's your reaction to what has happened, Then the propaganda is working on you.
	And now we've come up with another one.
	This is coming out of Israel.
	It's being pushed very hard by WND, by Robbie Starbuck, by Alex Jones, Gateway Pundit.
	These people are pushing the idea that nobody died, essentially.
	And now pictures have surfaced after all of this panic thing that hit the hospital and all the rest of the stuff.
	Pictures have surfaced showing that the hospital is still standing.
	There's a massive crater adjacent to it.
	So, again, that helps to reinforce the possibility that this was a failed missile that landed there.
	But again, we don't know. And because this is hitting adjacent to the hospital, now you've got people who are inclined with their confirmation bias to support the side of Israel are now saying, well, nobody died.
	You know, that's the nobody died thing again is back.
	Look, if you've got a hospital full of people and a crowded city, you understand that in these bombing campaigns, there's going to be a ton of casualties because you've got 2.5 million people packed into 140 square miles.
	And there are even higher density in and around this hospital.
	You've got more than 6,000 people who are not even there for the hospital issues that are camping out in that area.
	Camping out in the parking lot area.
	Why? Well, because they thought it would be safe there.
	They thought, you know, if I get close to the hospital, they're going to leave the hospital alone.
	And so they camp out there.
	So even if it hit in the hospital, You could still have several hundred people who died.
	And it's not going to be possible for us to prove to people's satisfaction because of their confirmation bias whether this was a miss by Israel or whether this was a jihad missile that misfired.
	And then landed on him. I think that's the more likely scenario because of the high-powered explosion that is there adjacent to the building.
	Probably would have taken that down. But still, enough that we've got people that are camping out there because they think that that is the safest place.
	That is perhaps what happened.
	And it's interesting that as you've got this, that this went on for about 48 hours before this came out.
	And, you know, you've got all these, CIA says it's got satellite pictures, and Biden says it's not our team.
	I've seen the pictures and so forth.
	Why didn't they release that earlier?
	Do they want to have the reactions that they saw?
	And not to excuse the reactions, the reactions that you see across Europe, the burning, the riots, and all the rest of this stuff.
	None of that is excusable.
	But we had all kinds of issues.
	Disinformation put out there.
	We had people who had put out information on the side of the IDF, as I pointed out yesterday, saying, we did it because, you know, they're shooting at people from the hospital.
	So we took that. And then they pulled that down.
	Then there were other things that showed missiles.
	And there's arguments about whether the time codes were legitimate or not.
	And those things were taken down.
	Then some other ones are put back up and so forth.
	Both sides are lying to you, you understand.
	Don't follow them into this war.
	Again, just like you take the audio recordings.
	Is this a missile? Is this the missile?
	What a JDAM sounds like?
	Is that an audio recording of that missile?
	This is what you hear people saying on a wiretap audio?
	Is that legitimate, real audio?
	Or is that a skit?
	Right? Why do we believe any of this stuff?
	So anyway, it now appears that the hospital was not hit.
	Maybe it was a parking lot. But again, I don't trust anybody in this, and neither should you.
	There's always a lot of confusion in war.
	But there's always a lot of deliberate lies and misinformation to weaponize this, weaponize both sides of this.
	So anyway, we're going to leave it at that point.
	I'm not going to get any further into the hospital stuff.
	We've got other news that I want to talk about before we're joined by our guest.
	When we come back, I'm going to talk about climate.
	So stay with us.
	We will be right back.
	We will be right back.
	We will be right back.
	you you you Well, this is an interesting story.
	And I've got to say, a little bit of...
	Sympathy for the nun and some excitement in what she had done.
	We have a French nun who tackles environmental protesters attempting to stop construction of a religious center.
	And why? Well, they say, well, we've got this rare plant here and it's going to destroy the environment.
	It's like, come on. You guys are so far past caring about the environment.
	We used to have dams that were held up because of a so-called snail darter and all the rare animals.
	They don't care about any of that stuff anymore.
	I mean, they're out there putting up these massive wind farms and offshore wind farms that are killing whales, killing eagles, killing bats left and right.
	They don't care about the environment.
	They don't care about the wildlife, whatever.
	They just want their way.
	And one of the reasons why I was sympathetic to what she did...
	And I've got a clip of it, by the way.
	Let's take a look. This is the flying nun, I will call her, because she takes a flying run and knocks this person on the ground, tackles him.
	This is much, much bigger than she is.
	I guess it's kind of a Hail Mary approach to try to stop these protests.
	Here she comes! She takes them down.
	There you go. And then this guy, he's smashing that tube.
	Those tubes are part of the construction stuff.
	And so these people show up just to destroy things.
	Because that's what the so-called climate people do now.
	Just destroy stuff.
	And we see these people gluing themselves to the roads, gluing themselves to showroom floors, you know, cars, and blocking traffic, blocking people who have to get to the hospital, blocking people from getting to work or doing anything, because they don't care about anything other than their little agenda, and they're completely deranged.
	And so it was good to see her do that, even if it was a Hail Mary attempt, trying to stop these climate crazies doing that type of stuff.
	But, you know, when we look at it, their response was, The guy says, well, I didn't expect that.
	I expected the nuns to be a little bit reasonable.
	You're not reasonable, pal.
	I mean, who is this one of these crazy climate idiots?
	Reasonable. He says, I was attacked three times by five people who snatched me who wanted to throw me out there.
	They decided to protect the site with their actions and with their bodies.
	Well, you know, to throw you out of there, that's their property.
	It's their property. Of course, they don't respect any of that.
	They don't care what the truth is, and they don't care what anybody wants.
	None of this makes any difference to them.
	So they were, the construction site was surrounded by a group of nuns from the missionary family of Notre Dame, forming a human chain around the area in order to stop the activists.
	But that didn't stop them.
	And so, you know, she ran into them.
	Following the confrontation, the nuns resumed a more peaceful stance, singing while blocking the surrounding protesters.
	From the flying nuns to the singing nuns.
	And this is some kind of jackfruit.
	It's nothing special that they say grows there.
	And they said, they don't have the authorization to destroy the habitats of protected species.
	You know what? You don't have the authorization from us To destroy our way of life.
	You don't have the authorization to destroy our homes, to take our cars, to take our appliances, to take our energy and our food and all the rest of the stuff.
	You don't have the authority to do that.
	And it's about time we push back on this stuff.
	In Britain, for example, you talk about taking stuff from people.
	You have the guy who is now their infrastructure czar.
	The National Infrastructure Commission, the guy who is head of that, he has come out explicitly saying, well, what we're going to do is we're going to shut down Britain's gas network.
	We're going to confiscate all of the gas furnaces.
	We're going to roll out heat pumps.
	You're going to buy heat pumps, and we're going to ban all private vehicles, not just the internal combustion engines, but all of them, electric vehicles included.
	This has always been part of it.
	This guy's name is Sir John Armit.
	He recommended that cities ban all private vehicles.
	And they're going to shut down the gas network.
	They're going to spend billions of dollars to dig through the streets and the homes and everything and rip out the gas lines.
	Because they said, well, if we don't let anybody have any gas, then these things are eventually going to collapse and there'll be a hazard.
	So spend billions of dollars to rip this out.
	No, they want to make sure that you don't have any infrastructure coming up.
	He's urging the Prime Minister there, Rishi Rich, to commit to a total ban on gas boiler sales by 2035 and set out how the National Gas Network will be shut down gradually and permanently over the next 27 years.
	This document that he put out, the National Infrastructure Assessment.
	How cynical to talk about infrastructure.
	All they're doing is destroying infrastructure.
	These people are depopulationists.
	They want to kill us.
	They want to kill our way of life.
	Everything. They are destroyers.
	They sowed the seeds of chaos, and it's all for the purpose of destroying everything about our lives and destroying our lives themselves.
	So they're calling for 1.3 billion pounds a year to be spent on heat pumps for poor homes.
	1.9 billion pound grants worth 7,000 pounds each for other homeowners to buy heat pumps that are not suited to the cold weather of the UK. Gas boilers need to be phased out and replaced with heat pumps.
	Say you? Who are you to say that?
	Who are you to say that?
	Why? Why? There is no public policy case for hydrogen either to be used to heat individual buildings.
	It should be ruled out as an option as well.
	Because, see, it has to be about central control.
	You can't have hydrogen gas.
	You can't have natural gas.
	You can't have gasoline or petrol.
	You can't have diesel.
	It's got to be something that they control through their electric grid.
	Centrally controlled through the grid.
	Only power. Because, again, it's all about central control.
	It's not about emissions. It's not about climate.
	It's not about protecting species.
	This is about central control.
	Now, the useful idiots that are out there trying to stop other people, well, they may not understand it.
	They may think that it is really about that stuff, but it is not about that stuff.
	And so, hang on just one second.
	We have, as one narrative says, what people are calling anti-science is just anti-authoritarianism.
	It's not science to censor people.
	It's not science to shut down skepticism.
	As a matter of fact, that is the essence of science, questioning what the conventional wisdom is, questioning what the authorities say.
	You know, when Francis Bacon came out with his scientific method, he put that in opposition to what he called academia, which is that the people in authority, the people in universities, would tell you what was true and we would all agree with that and do whatever they said.
	Now, this is an interesting case.
	Now, this is from the BBC. And they did a little video report, and they said, melting glaciers reveal a past that has been hidden for centuries.
	They said, with global warming of glaciers, the glaciers are melting, and now we're seeing a secret history that has been hidden for millennia.
	The discoveries have given rise to a new field of study, glacial archaeology.
	And so they're finding all of these things that people have put in these other areas that have long been lost, and they're doing archaeological finds.
	But here's the obvious question.
	So when these things were put there, There weren't any glaciers there.
	So that means that the temperatures, millennia ago, were kind of like they are now, except maybe even warmer for a longer period of time.
	And of course, millennia ago, it wasn't all these things that these infrastructure czars and everything are working so hard to try to get rid of, right?
	All that stuff was there.
	Uh... It was not man-made, and it was warmer at that point in time.
	Amazon is now jumping, however, onto a new climate change stress test.
	This is the way this is going to be rolled out.
	One of the reasons why these corporations love ESG is not just because they're being blackmailed by BlackRock.
	Yes, it's coming through them.
	You know, you do what we say.
	Vanguard and BlackRock and, you know, there's one other, and they've got about $30 trillion worth of investments in these other companies.
	And it's like, well, we'll dump your stock and destroy your company if you don't do what we say.
	Well, it's also these corporations are going to be stakeholders.
	A good example of this is Amazon.
	And Amazon wants to be able to deliver things by drone.
	They're going to start delivering drugs by drone, right?
	Because... Food's not essential, but drugs are.
	And just can't get it to you fast enough.
	So they're going to have, in terms of drone delivery, Amazon has weaseled its way in to know that they're going to be allowed to do drones, but it's also been made very clear that we can't just have everybody out there doing drone deliveries.
	You know, we're going to have to control this.
	And so, only the responsible people, which will be the big Wall Street corporations, will be able to allow this stuff.
	It's just going to be another way that they shut down avenues of business to small businesses.
	But this is a big way to shut down small businesses as well.
	The climate change stress test.
	It's going to be coming for Amazon sellers and suppliers.
	Starting in 2024, Amazon is going to be joining other giant companies, multinational stakeholders, holding the stake over our hearts.
	Microsoft, Walmart, Apple, and others, and their decarbonization efforts.
	And so what this is going to involve, to make it short, because we've got Sheriff Mac ready to join us here.
	What it involves is a massive amount of reporting from small businesses.
	And they admit it's going to drive a lot of small businesses out of the market.
	And that's why they're doing it.
	It's the same thing that the Consumer Financial Protection Board did to drive out the small and medium-sized banks.
	Well, we're going to come up, we don't like this loan process stuff that's done by all the banks.
	And so to keep that from happening again, we are going to have lots and lots of paperwork and other things like that.
	And the small and medium-sized banks just had to get out of certain loan markets because they couldn't comply with the paperwork requirements.
	And they're saying the same thing's going to happen now.
	In order to fill out all this paperwork requirement, to be able to sell stuff to Walmart or to Amazon, once they get, you know, essentially a de facto monopoly marketplace, they'll squeeze you out because you won't be able to do the paperwork.
	Or maybe we should call it the paper-woke requirement.
	That's going to be required for this.
	So let the black market begin.
	Let's let the black market.
	Better start finding ways that we can sell to each other, that we can get around all of this stuff.
	They said 8 and 10 small and medium-sized business owners say they lack the funds to do this.
	They don't have the right skills, say 63%.
	So they don't have the right skills.
	43% said they lack the funds.
	But they said, oh yeah, it's a real high priority to us.
	Folks, we've got to not live by their lies.
	We've got to not say when they say, is this a high priority?
	Oh, yes, yes, I want you to like me.
	No, you've got to point out their lie.
	And you've got to say, I'm not participating in this.
	It's total BS. And a survey from Intuit QuickBooks, and remember, Intuit QuickBooks was going to shut down all gun retailers and gun manufacturers because Bank of America and J.P. Morgan told them to.
	But Intuit, QuickBooks says, two-thirds of small business owners say they were taking steps to reduce their environmental impact, such as recycling and using renewable materials.
	If they ask you a question like that, tell them to go pound sand.
	As soon as we start our own networks of this stuff, the better.
	Because these people, I said, it's also going to target restaurants.
	You see, they want to shut down the farms with their made-up nitrogen fear claims.
	No food, no farms, no food.
	And, of course, another part of that is going to be no restaurants, especially because restaurants are one of the few businesses that were left for people to be able to compete as entrepreneurs.
	All right, we're going to take a quick break, and we're going to be right back with Sheriff Mack, who is feeling the full brunt of Southern Poverty Law Center's Profits of Hate, P-R-O-F-I-T-S.
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	And he's facing a swarm of persecution.
	This is a Marxist tactic.
	They focus, they single out one group or one person, and then they all attack them at the same time.
	And that appears to be what is happening now with the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.
	Thank you for joining us, Sheriff Mack.
	Tell us a little bit about what is being directed at you right now.
	Well, David, thanks. It's great to see you again.
	We go way back.
	Oh, yeah. Well, it's living proof.
	That what we're doing is working because they're scared and they're so scared they're willing to lie and put out all these lies about us.
	They publish all sorts of lies about us and it's like they're following us around.
	And literally there are some that are following us around and it's kind of the epitome of stalking.
	But You know, I don't mind them coming to our training seminars.
	Yeah, let's talk about that first.
	Let's talk about why they're afraid of you, because they're afraid of the Constitution and they're afraid of constitutional sheriffs, right?
	Tell us a little bit about the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, and then I think that'll give a lot of people an insight into why the Southern Poverty Law Center and all these other people don't like you.
	So tell us a little bit about the Constitution and sheriffs.
	It started when I was a sheriff, and I sued the federal government.
	I sued the Clinton administration over the overreach of government associated with the Brady Bill.
	And it was the first time in history where the federal government ordered and mandated and commanded the sheriffs to enforce a federal statute for them.
	And first of all, they can't tell your sheriff what to do and they know it.
	But they tried.
	And then I started this whole movement to say no to them and tell them to shove it and file the lawsuit.
	And then six other sheriffs across the country joined me.
	This was all the sheriffs in the nation were ordered by the Brady Bill, by Congress, by the president to enforce this so-called law for them.
	by the Brady Bill, by Congress, by the president to enforce this so-called law for them.
	And if we didn't, it came with a threat of arrest.
	David, people think I make this up.
	It said, whoever knowingly fails to comply is subject to a $10,000 fine, a year in prison, or both.
	I could have gone to prison for a year.
	So anyway, we got an injunction against the Clinton administration from being able to attack me or come near me.
	I literally had an order of protection so that they couldn't come and arrest me at 2 o'clock in the morning and bring their SWAT team and so forth and haul me off with the dog barking Or they probably would have shot my dog because they don't like dogs to bark at them.
	And my children crying and my wife going crazy watching me be hauled off.
	And so we did get an injunction.
	And it's all part of the record.
	But this... We gave birth to the constitutional sheriff movement saying, we're not just going to sue anymore.
	We're going to tell you no.
	If you go outside your lane of traffic, we will tell you no, you can't do that.
	There are certain things you cannot do here.
	Going to court on every legal issue would be impossible.
	There's not enough time and there's not enough money.
	We just need people in the states.
	We need governors.
	We need state legislatures.
	We need county commissioners.
	And we need absolutely the bottom line, the sheriff, to stand with the people in his county and tell the federal government and state bureaucracies as well, there's a few things you're not going to do here.
	And if you want to do something here, you better check with me first. - Yes.
	Yes. And following and enforcing the Constitution.
	There's nothing violent about it.
	We've had sheriffs all over the country do this.
	No one has ever been hurt.
	No one has ever been threatened with death or anything else like that.
	It's never happened. The proof is there.
	But they're still saying, and they get these pundits like Mary McCord, an idiot from Texas.
	She says, oh, this is all about violence, and this is all about...
	What nonsense!
	This has never been the case.
	Look at what I said and look at what I've done.
	I went through the peaceful process to get a Supreme Court victory for us.
	I got it and now you say we're violent and we should be everybody in the nation should be scared of us.
	Why? We should be scared of communism and tyranny and This unilateral government that appoints itself king and dictator and this Marxist movement to destroy America is real, and we're trying to stop that, and the people that are in charge of doing it are getting really mad at us.
	That's right. They should be afraid of these federal agents who are extending their tentacles into everything and demanding that people do things and initiating force against people.
	What you're doing is non-commandeering.
	You know, that's a principle that's been supported.
	Well, that's interesting because this case is called the commandeer case.
	The commandeering case.
	And so, yes, this is anti-commandeering.
	Yes. They want to come in and they want to take command and they want to start ordering you to attack people in your area and to make you subordinate to them as a tool of their tyranny.
	And so we've had courts that have supported you and have supported many other areas of this where there is a non-commandeering.
	You cannot come in and tell people at the state government level that they have to do what you say.
	It is a passive thing.
	It is a passive resistance.
	It's like, I'm just not going to do this.
	I'm not going to participate in your tyranny.
	It's not like you're coming out there to resist him.
	You're just saying, hey, I'm not going to help you with this.
	I'm not going to do this. And it's also about nullification.
	You know, I've talked to Michael Meharry with the Tenth Amendment Center many times, and he said, you know...
	When we look at this and we look at the non-commandeering laws and we look at the different alternatives that we got to an overreaching federal government, you can just submit to this tyranny.
	If you get really angry, you say, all right, I want to just secede.
	Of course, there's a lot of people that are saying that on both the left and the right.
	But that's going to result in a war and a battle, as we know.
	But he said the middle path is nullification.
	I'm just not going to do what you say.
	And that's not an aggressive thing.
	That is not... You're not the one who's initiating this force.
	It's the federal government who's initiating this force, and you're simply not going to go along with it because of what the Constitution says.
	And we saw this all in 2020 when we had local sheriffs who said, I'm not going to enforce these laws to tell people they've got to wear masks or they've got to social distance.
	You know, that was the peaceful way.
	And there was about 500... Over 500 sheriffs that did that nationwide.
	Yes, and I've told people, I tell people all the time, you know, look, I don't like Trump, I don't like Biden, I don't like any of these guys, quite frankly, and none of them are going to save you.
	You spend all your time focused on the race and the level of government where you have the least leverage, and we have the least say-so, and on the one office where you have the least leverage.
	I said, you need to figure out who your local sheriffs are, because as we saw through this pandemic, it's not a theory.
	Amen. The people who had it better or who even had it worse, it depended on the sheriff.
	The sheriff could make it much worse than the feds and the state even wanted.
	Or they could stand in the gap and say, well, you're not going to enforce that.
	I'm not going to enforce that for you.
	I'm not going to do that. We just saw that in New Mexico with Governor Grisham's orders.
	And you had the Democrats who stood up to her.
	And the sheriff and the chief of police and the AG standing against her.
	And they were all Democrats. Yes.
	And they were all Democrats. They're all liberal Democrats.
	And so we're not going to enforce that law.
	And it ended it, you know?
	And she, everybody, whether the courts or whether it was the local district attorney or the chief of police or the sheriff of the county, everybody said, we're not going to enforce that law.
	They stopped it. Yeah.
	And was anything violent about that?
	No. They just refused to participate and said, she's out to lunch.
	She's not following the Constitution.
	The sheriff said, Sheriff Allen, said, this is impossible to enforce.
	And I'll tell you why. Because it's unconstitutional.
	That's why we can't enforce it.
	It used to be her lugs.
	Yeah. That she wanted them to use violence against other people and be unconstitutional, unlawful thugs, and they said, no, we're going to follow the Constitution.
	That's what your whole organization is about.
	Yeah, and you know, really, the secession thing, I think it's one of the solutions, but I don't advocate for that.
	But I will tell you this.
	I believe there's three solutions left.
	Three. And they're all very bold.
	But yesterday, I saw on MSN that the Democrats are now suggesting that we have two countries in America.
	And I'm getting where I agree with that.
	Yeah. Because we're going to succumb to all of this tyranny in Washington, D.C., and with the Marxists and Democrats that are going, Marxists and socialists and extremism, extremism on the left is going to destroy the rest of us.
	Yeah. And so they actually marked up a map that showed which states should stay as a liberal America or socialist America and then the others that are conservative America.
	I actually agree that that's one of the solutions for us if we're going to survive.
	Before you go into the second one, let me talk about that because the very first guest that I had on my show, my very first program back in August of 2017, they were very upset.
	It had only been a few months since Trump had taken office.
	I took office in January 2021.
	So here it is in August. And I was aware that there were a lot of people in California who were putting together a movement to secede because they didn't like Trump.
	And so I got a hold of them.
	And my first guest was somebody from a leftist group in California who wanted to secede.
	And my statement to her was, what can I do to help you?
	Yeah. I would like for you to be like, because we've seen this over and over again.
	If you look at the Scandinavian countries, they've come together and set apart in various combinations without a war, many times.
	You're absolutely correct.
	Send California and Oregon and Washington and Illinois and a few others, obviously.
	Send them, yes. Go!
	New York, especially.
	New Jersey. Send them to their own country and let them implode on themselves.
	But now they keep trying to take us all with them.
	So the other solution is that we all moved to the same three or four states.
	All of us. And we would have to decide.
	And you know what? Patriots won't do that.
	Even the elderly who are retired, who could do it, still won't do it.
	And it's a matter of survival that we try to do that and We can't.
	And so, you know, New Hampshire was trying that back about 10 years ago with the first state project.
	And they said, everybody should move here.
	We're going to make ourselves a completely constitutional state.
	And obviously that didn't work.
	I'm telling you, we have to live in the same place.
	We have to have two different countries divided, or we have the states and the counties and the sheriffs stand against this and stop this tyranny from taking over our entire country and ruining our Constitution and our Constitutional Republic.
	Otherwise, our survival is in real dire straits.
	what I've been doing the last 15 years, trying to get sheriffs to simply take a stand and enforce and defend the Constitution, and they've already promised in God's name and their oath that that is what they would do.
	But still, some of them are so shy about doing that.
	Yeah.
	I don't know why.
	And that's kind of the nullification option.
	You know, we're saying we're not going to participate in this.
	We're not going to be commandeered in this.
	I agree. I think that is the best of these things.
	As I was saying, you know, you had the Scandinavian nations have joined and split apart and joined in various combinations.
	They never had a war. But in America, because of our history of secession and in so many other areas, and of course we know that our government would...
	Right.
	They were not able to get enough people to move there.
	We were in the situation, we were in Austin, a socialist place.
	It's like a California island in the middle of Texas.
	And it wasn't even really much better during the pandemic.
	I was completely fed up with a Republican-led government that was in the community where we were there just outside of Austin.
	And it's like, well, I don't see the sheriff standing up for anybody and doing anything.
	And so it's like, you know, we got to get out of this place.
	And, you know, we traveled through Tennessee here and we saw that everybody was really relaxed about the masks and all that kind of stuff in early 2020.
	And so, you know, we came here and, you know, Sheriff Mack, in terms of all this pistol brace stuff, for example, I talked to a state legislator here, a state senator nicely, and I talked to him about this pistol brace stuff.
	He said, we've already taken care of that.
	We passed a law saying that you can't force us to, that if you've got a law at the federal level that contradicts our state law, we're not going to enforce that.
	You can't force us to do that.
	And then he said, and then we put in a state law saying the pistol braces are legal.
	And so it's that type of thing.
	You have to have state and local legislators and people.
	You mean you're going to have those dangerous pistol braces?
	You're going to have those horrible pistol braces?
	It's a way to hold a gun a little better, especially for somebody who's handicapped.
	That's it. It doesn't make the gun shoot faster.
	That's right. Yeah, or disable that or something.
	It is such nonsense. It is.
	And I think you really touched on a point, though, with your nullification.
	We have always had, since the beginning of our country, nullification, especially when you consider jury nullification.
	And that's we the people.
	We the people are in charge of every criminal case and most civil cases as well.
	That's done by we the people, and we have the power to nullify everything that goes to court that this government's doing, except Trump was not allowed a jury trial in New York because it was just monetary.
	And I don't know why.
	The Seventh Amendment says in common law cases that exceed the value of the controversy is over $20, A jury shall be enjoyed.
	Shall be guaranteed.
	And yet, here's Trump.
	No jury. He requested a jury and it was denied him.
	And of course, New York State.
	So yes, that just shows, again, they're anti-constitution and dividing the country.
	We're already divided.
	Oh yeah. We're divided over Trump.
	We are extremely divided.
	So let's make it permanent.
	Let's make it official. Yeah, jury nullification is very important, and of course, we've had situations for a long time where judges will lie to juries and tell them exactly the opposite.
	That's part of the problem. Yeah, one of the things I think that's interesting is, even on the left, before we had a lot of states that would legalize marijuana, One of the guys I interviewed was a New Jersey weed man, and they got him, and because he had enough marijuana, they were going to charge him as a dealer.
	And he looked at it and he said, you know, I think that I can get a jury to nullify this, because most people think it ought to be legal here in New Jersey.
	And so he represented himself because he couldn't get a lawyer who would argue for jury nullification.
	They're afraid of that. Oh, shit.
	And afraid of the judges.
	And so it was in actually the New Jersey State Constitution that said the juries are there to judge the law, not just the facts of the case, but to judge the law and what the penalties will be.
	And so he printed it up on a card and he put it up on his desk and showed it to the jury.
	And the judge says, take that down right now.
	And he said, well, it was too late. They'd already seen it and I'd already said it.
	And he said, disregard what he just said.
	But he got seven people to vote to acquit him and five people.
	Disregard the law.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Disregard the law.
	And judges lie about that all the time.
	And so they came after him a second time.
	And he got a different judge and he did the same thing.
	And that judge let that stay up there.
	And he got a 12 to 0 acquittal.
	And so that's the power of jury nullification.
	Yeah, good for him.
	And that's the power of jury nullification.
	They don't want you to have it.
	Part of that is to overcharge people and get you to plea bargain with it.
	Because it's like, well, hey, if I lose, look, I'm going to go to jail for life type of thing.
	But, you know, it's also when you talk about nullification, Sheriff Mac, I have a guest that's been on several times.
	His name is Matt Trujala.
	And he's got a book called The Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrates.
	It's a very thin book.
	He handed this out to police officers and sheriffs and stuff and really changed their mind.
	It's such a powerful book.
	You should sell it at your conventions if you don't already.
	It's an excellent book. I probably should.
	I have read it, but I have several books already, and my County Sheriff America's Last Hope book, I think, is equal to his.
	Everybody needs to read that book, the County Sheriff America's Last Hope.
	It's on our website, cspoa.org.
	Everybody should get that, and the proper role of law enforcement, probably another, and everybody should have this tiny little pocket-sized booklet.
	This is the Victory for State Sovereignty.
	It's really small. When you see it on our website, it looks real big, but it's just because of the picture.
	We're on a split screen here, so move it a little bit to your...
	Let's see. Yeah, that's good.
	Right there. Yeah, right there.
	Yeah, that's good. Okay, tell us about it.
	This is... This is simply, it has the state flags on all of it, and this is simply a Reader's Digest review of my Supreme Court case.
	And it's the most powerful ruling in the history of our country that says nullification's fine.
	States have the authority to be doing this.
	The federal government does not have heart blanched authority.
	They're very limited.
	It says the federal government was only granted discrete, enumerated powers.
	And then he says, and that is rendered express by the assertion of the Tenth Amendment.
	The Tenth Amendment must be asserted.
	And who's going to do that?
	The states must enforce the Tenth Amendment.
	And this decision makes that very clear.
	Everyone in America should have this book in their pocket and be ready to hand it to somebody else.
	It's the most freedom-enhancing decision probably in the last 100 years in America.
	Oh, I agree. Folks, you need to see that decision.
	Look it up. MACVUS.com.
	Prince and I, Sheriff Prince and I, were the ones that are on that.
	His name's on it as well.
	P-R-I-N-T-Z for Montana.
	So the Matt Prince case is something that every single one of you should be totally familiar with so that we can start nullifying more and protecting our God-given liberties.
	And that's all this is about.
	That's right. That's very important.
	And, you know, when you go back and we look at the Dobbs case that overturned Roe v.
	Wade, I was saying, for the longest time, and that's what your case said, was that, you know, the federal government can't do this unless they've got the power to do it.
	And so they shut that down and kicked it back to the states.
	And I said, that's great.
	I was saying that all along.
	I said, you know, we had Roe v.
	Wade, and that was a case that came out of Texas.
	I said, the response from Texas should have been, well, the Supreme Court's made their decision.
	Let's see them enforce it, which is what Andrew Jackson said when they disagreed with what he was doing with the Trail of Tears, which was a bad policy, you You know, they reversed themselves within one year.
	It was a bad policy what he was doing, but he had the authority to do it.
	And so, you know, when they changed their mind within one year, first they said you can do it, then they said you can't do it.
	And he said, well, you made your decision. I want to see you enforce it.
	And so that's the key thing.
	It's the enforcement aspect of it.
	And I said, you know, we should have a long time ago, before we lost over 60 million babies, We should have had the states stand up and say the same thing.
	You don't have the authority to make a decision about when life begins.
	And yet we've got politicians now who decide they want to try to refederalize this thing.
	It's very important that people understand the Tenth Amendment and that case that you had as a landmark decision about the Tenth Amendment.
	Very important. Very important.
	Yeah, it is. And we need to understand the whole situation there.
	The sheriffs are the only elected law enforcement authority anywhere in the United States, in every state.
	They are the only elected.
	That in itself...
	Is where they get their power.
	Because the people bestow all power.
	He reports directly and only to the people.
	And that's why this can happen.
	We've had hundreds of sheriffs doing this.
	Right now, we need a thousand sheriffs doing this.
	That means we need about 700 more.
	And folks, you can help.
	You've got to have...
	One, you've got to be a member with us and be a member of the CSPOA and then work with your sheriff to become a constitutional sheriff and erect these barriers with you.
	He can't do it without you.
	He needs you. You're part of this.
	You're his supervisor.
	You're his boss. So there must be a cohesive cooperation and relationship between we the people, the people of his county, and the sheriff.
	If you don't get that relationship, you're not going to be able to pull this off.
	And it's the simplest solution for what's going on in America.
	He can and we can erect those barriers against the encroachments of the federal government.
	I agree. And what you're saying is if people can become, you don't have to be a law enforcement officer to become part of the CSPOA. Everybody can join.
	It's our people's posse, CSPOA posse.
	So it's on there.
	It's only $11 a month.
	Become a member.
	Be a part of this. Help finance this amazing movement that really is a peaceful and effective solution.
	And quite frankly, it's the only peaceful and effective solution left except for us moving to those places, as I said, or we become two different countries.
	We already are divided.
	We might as well make it official.
	I agree.
	But the sheriff can do it with you.
	It's important for people to stand with the sheriff.
	Everybody's seen the movie High Noon with Gary Cooper.
	Walking tall.
	Yeah.
	They leave him to the wolves coming and leave him by himself.
	You know, you can't leave these guys out there either by themselves.
	You can join together with this and encourage them to do the right thing.
	Stand with them when they do the right thing.
	And that's the only way this is going to happen.
	And I agree with you. I actually mentioned Gary Cooper's High Noon in one of my books.
	I believe it's in The County Sheriff of America's Last Hope.
	Good. Yeah, that's a great movie and great example of what this is all really about.
	We have to stand...
	When I interviewed Gerard Griffin, one of the things he said stuck with me.
	He said, we have to stand collectively for individual freedom.
	That's something difficult for people who are so focused on individual freedom.
	We don't like collectivism.
	We don't like groups. We don't like belonging to clubs and all this other kind of stuff.
	When comes to freedom, we love it.
	Yeah, but to have our freedom, we've got to act collectively, and that's something that's difficult for us to grasp as we focus so much on the individual.
	So now that we've reiterated what we do, CSPOA, folks, is there any question as to why The Southern Poverty Law Center is going after us with a vengeance, lying, lying, and lying about Sam Bushman and me.
	Sam Bushman does his constitutional thing on his Liberty Roundtable radio show, and he's the CEO of CSPOA. And we've needed so much help And I'm so busy with my wife doing my schedule.
	I just got back from a 12-day tour in Minnesota and South Dakota.
	And there are sheriffs raring to go, especially in South Dakota.
	And they're defending this Jared Bosley who doesn't want his land dug up by the carbon solutions people and companies.
	And he's not going to cooperate with them.
	And they're going to have to go around his property because he doesn't want...
	Well, tell us about that case.
	So, what is going on with this?
	What are they trying to do? Well, it's just like fracking.
	They want to go on these people's property and start digging and go put an underground tunnel through their property, which obviously to dig all that and go under their property.
	And these property owners say, we're farmers.
	We want to be left alone.
	Leave us alone. We're not cooperating.
	You're not a government entity.
	I don't have to do eminent domain with you.
	You're a private business.
	And these guys are trying to do something for the environment, which is probably bogus anyway, but they're trying to do carbon Is it sequestering?
	Is it sequestering a carbon?
	They're trying to bury it in the ground or something?
	Is that it? Or transport it.
	So I thought they were trying to transport it somewhere.
	Yeah, probably transporting somewhere where they pump it in the ground.
	That's another crazy thing.
	It's like cutting down trees and burying trees and everything.
	It's absolutely insane.
	But, you know, I've seen this from the other side, Sheriff Mack.
	You know, I support the use of functional fuels, I call them, instead of fossil fuels.
	But, you know, my objection to the pipelines was the Was the fact that they were coming in and that they gave eminent domain to corporations.
	In the case of the pipeline, the XL pipeline, they gave eminent domain to a foreign corporation out of Canada, and then they were stealing the farms and rendering large areas of them useless, places that people have been there for over a century.
	So it's a difference between, you know, regardless of how this is going to be used, whether it's going to be used for some kind of a Crazy climate fantasy, or if it's going to be used for real fuel.
	We can't give eminent domain to these corporations.
	It began with Akello versus London and Connecticut, and the Supreme Court made the wrong decision there.
	And now, after saying, well, we can take private land, not for public use, but for a corporation's use, now they're just turning it over to let the corporations start to take that land without any other reason, and even foreign corporations.
	So that has to be resisted.
	So the federal government is trying to enforce this.
	Is that what is happening with...
	No, the local government is, and I'm sure the federal government is going to get involved.
	The company has been offering the county tens of thousands of dollars if they'll just help them.
	So bribery is now coming into it.
	But this farmer, Jared Bosley, I spent some time with him.
	I actually got on his combine, and we were harvesting.
	I went with him to harvest soybeans, and I was amazed about the technology and the work that he and his son did together.
	And this family just simply wants to be left alone, and they have that right.
	I don't care what his reason is.
	That's right. I don't care.
	That's right. It's his castle.
	He owns it, and he does it with his family, and he wants to be left alone.
	So I'm going to tell you right now, Carbon Solutions, or what is it?
	Summit Carbon Solutions.
	You have to leave him alone, and you have to go around.
	That's America. And the judge who ordered that they allow them to come in and survey their land was way out of line because this guy said no.
	And the sheriff there is not going to cooperate with us anymore.
	And, you know, I told him, I said, well, you know, let's make the best of the order there.
	I said, but the next time, you and the judge are going to have to set the judge straight.
	This is his property, and there is no legal reason.
	That he should be required by law or by the judge, but not by law, by an incorrect order from the court, that he has to cooperate with this private business.
	He does not. He does not.
	And so this is what we've been working on, folks.
	And we're doing this nationwide.
	And the sheriff, the constitutional sheriff, Is the peaceful, effective solution to all of this.
	Folks, get involved in this.
	Come on board with us.
	Join us in this holy cause.
	And so, of course, now we're, because we're doing, we're making headway, IREHR, Human Rights Group, something or other, with Lyre, Devin, Burkhart, He sent emails to all the sheriffs in Minnesota telling them to stay away from me, that I was dangerous and that I'm a racist and I'm anti-Semitic.
	I've never been anti-Semitic in my life.
	I don't even know what anti-Semitism is.
	I didn't grow up with it at all.
	My freshman class teacher, Mrs.
	Greenbaum, was my favorite teacher.
	I didn't know Greenbaum was a Jewish name.
	I didn't care what name.
	I didn't care. And no one else did.
	And Jeannie Bellman.
	She was a Jew.
	Okay, so? We had different religious beliefs.
	So, I like Eddie Cain, and he was Catholic.
	I like Jeannie, she was Jew.
	She was Jewish. I like Willie and Leroy, and they had a different church to go to.
	And I went to one of their churches once.
	It was an amazing, amazing piece of Americana.
	And so, now, my mom brought us up To accept all people and to be blind to everyone.
	It didn't matter what color you were or who your daddy was or what your religion was.
	And my mom trained us to do that and now they're bad-mouthing my mother saying what a horrible lady she was and they haven't brought her name up or her position up but they're saying that I I'm a racist.
	That means my mom was okay with that.
	And I'm telling you, folks, she raised us just the opposite.
	My DNA is just the opposite.
	And these people do not care.
	They're liars.
	Anti-Defamation League has defamed me over and over that I'm racist and anti-Semitic.
	So I tried to call.
	I saw Jonathan Greenblatt.
	On Fox News, and he was talking about all of the stuff going on between Hamas and Israel.
	I really was impressed with him, so I left word at Anti-Defamation League that I would like to talk to him because his people have defamed me and sorely mistreated me and mischaracterized me.
	And so far, I've gotten nothing back except they acknowledged that they got my email.
	So I guess that's what they're supposed to do beforehand.
	But I think he was a good man.
	I think Musk nailed him.
	I think he said, just take off the ante there.
	You're just a defamation league.
	And they will defame people by calling...
	We've seen this from the left.
	And unfortunately, there are really racist people out there.
	But they give them a pass because they call everybody racist.
	That's just their first line of attack.
	And... I've been called racist.
	Rolling Stone just hit us, too.
	Rolling Stone. Him, Davison, and his boss were in touch with him.
	Do you know what Rolling Stone has done, David?
	What's that? They defended Ice-T, who did killer cop rap.
	And it went viral.
	And people got mad at him.
	And anti-defin...
	Rolling Stone defended him and said he was a great person.
	And now we're being lied about and they're coming after us.
	Because of what?
	And yes, you know what?
	There are books out there about Martin Luther King that say he's a real horrible person.
	Some people bring those up.
	I don't. Okay?
	But this is the thing.
	The FBI did illegal monitoring and wiretapping on Martin Luther King.
	Why aren't we bringing that up and saying all this illegal stuff that was brought out by him and even tried to commit extortion against him and blackmail that they were going to give all his sexual exploits that they had on him to his wife.
	And so I'm against all of that.
	Yes. And I quote Martin Luther King in my presentation.
	And Martin Luther King was arrested over 30 times and never committed a crime.
	Never committed a crime.
	And yet we don't want to learn from that.
	And Rosa Parks was arrested for not giving her seat to a white man in America.
	She was arrested for that.
	And we preach against that.
	We show a movie clip about Rosa Parks getting arrested.
	We say, what would a constitutional sheriff do in that situation?
	Or what would you do now if it's an Amish farmer who's being abused by the FDA or USDA? Why do we allow the government to arrest them?
	And like the federal government's in charge of every ranch and farm in this entire country?
	Are you kidding? They have no authority to be doing that.
	And so we're trying to create peace and have people left alone of all races and Anti-Defamation League and Rolling Stone and SPLC and IRHR and all these others and Jessica Pishko, a private author or journalist, is going after us. Oh, she even said...
	She's gone to so many of my seminars.
	She follows me around the country.
	She's been to so many of them, she can't help but tell a little bit of the truth.
	She said this, Sheriff Mack cloaks himself in respectability, but it's dangerous.
	Some people say...
	Respectability. Some people say when she's the one who's saying it.
	That's the typical thing that they do.
	You know, it's interesting. You go back to look at the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	You were talking about Martin Luther King.
	The history of the Southern Poverty Law Center, Morris Deese, only was involved in the civil rights movement in order to defend the Ku Klux Klan that beat the Birmingham marchers and set their buses on fire.
	And he made what was equivalent to the median family income defending the Ku Klux Klan.
	And then he got out of law for about a decade and he started running a mail order business.
	And then he got back into the politics side of things.
	So when he said, I'll give you my mail mail order list, mailing list names to the Carter administration.
	If I'll I'll do this for free for you if you'll give me your mailing list is what it was.
	And so they did that.
	And so he got the mailing list, Democrats, and then he became this crusader against the Ku Klux Klan and against all racism and all the rest of this stuff when he set out the entire civil rights movement except to defend the Ku Klux Klan.
	And he founded SPLC. Yeah, that's right.
	He's the founder of SPLC. And even liberals talk about what a grifting organization it is and how they've got hundreds of millions of dollars in offshore bank accounts and all the rest of the stuff and how they spend very little of their money on their stated causes.
	But I've been attacked by this.
	They attack everybody that they disagree with politically.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Have you ever voted for a grandpa of the KKK? No.
	Have you ever spoken at a funeral for a KKK leader?
	No. I haven't.
	No? Well, Joe Biden has.
	Yeah. Robert Byrd and Joe Biden's huge friendship.
	And Joe Biden admitted that they were close personal friends and he spoke at his funeral.
	Yes. I deplore all of that.
	And Hillary. And all of them.
	You know, all the Democrats, all the big Democrats, all the big lefty Democrats loved Robert Byrd and had absolutely no problem with what he did.
	But, you know, they throw that out.
	It is a false accusation.
	I think... They came after me.
	False accusation? There's no question.
	He was part of the KKK and he was a high up ranking officer in the hierarchy.
	Oh yeah. No, I'm not saying that's a false.
	I'm not saying that's a false.
	I'm saying that what they do is they make false accusations about everybody else in terms of racism.
	Right. They showed their hand when they started doing hit pieces in March of 2020, in the first part of April.
	I was singled out by these people, the same people attacking you, because I said it was medical martial law.
	Now, there's nothing racist about that, right?
	But these people who say they're all about racism and hate, what's the hate in that?
	I do hate martial law.
	And I hate wearing a mask, and so now that makes me what?
	That makes me a mask hater, and I guess I'm racist against masks.
	I don't know. It gets really stupid.
	But they've shown their hands.
	They've shown the fact that what they're doing is they're giving cover to real racists, as you point out.
	You know, real racists, they speak at his funeral, and they applaud him and all the rest of this stuff.
	But they also give a free pass to people because they keep crying wolf about this thing.
	Yeah. And kill cops.
	And the killer cops. They don't care.
	They're fine with that.
	And look at the horrible things that they've done.
	And now, Sam and I are getting very, very serious death threats.
	And Sam just got a real horrible one.
	And yet, no one cares.
	And yet, the SPLC has created such hate environments that...
	These hate groups that are supported by the SPLC attacked and killed a security guard at the Family Research Center in Washington, D.C. They also attacked the Republican congressman while they're playing baseball.
	And they nearly killed Scalise.
	They shot him and they were shooting it up.
	And all of that was promoted by SPLC hate.
	Yes. And so these hate groups, this is really ironic and almost comical, that these hate groups, IRHR and Anti-Defamation League and SPLC, of course, especially them, CNN, Washington Post, these groups have all been liars, hate groups.
	And I want to say one of them, Sarah Sidner interviewed me and lied and lied and lied about me.
	And that's astonishing that they get to get away with all of this.
	And so we challenge them to honest, open debates.
	We've challenged all these groups to honest, open debates.
	Let's do it on your show.
	Let's do it on... How about this?
	We do it in Washington, D.C. at the press club.
	Okay. Sorry, I had my phone on.
	And so we're...
	We're wanting honest, open debates.
	Will any of them accept that, David?
	Have any of them said, yes, let's go for it?
	No. Because they know their lies will not stand up to public scrutiny, to honest public scrutiny.
	And another one that went after us is the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism.
	There's something in there, too, that is Howard.
	And this is an Arizona State University where I live, where I pay taxes to.
	And they did a story on the same thing, all about this.
	And where I quote Martin Luther King, they don't give him credit.
	They try to give it to me that I believe that we should all enforce, quote, unjust laws.
	And does anybody think that law enforcement should be enforcing unjust laws?
	And we bring that up because Martin Luther King said that we should disobey all unjust laws.
	What I bring up is, who gets to decide what's unjust?
	Well, it's every peace officer.
	It's everyone who's taken an oath.
	It's anyone and everyone in government.
	That says, this is what the Constitution says, and this is the tyranny that's going on.
	I'm going to side with the Constitution.
	And that's what we're required by law to do.
	The supreme law, the rule of law, is all about protecting individual liberty.
	That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men.
	That is our job as a patrol officer, as a detective, as a sheriff, as a Chief of police, as a county commissioner, as a mayor, governor, that is our job.
	And as a juror, as a juror also, you know, that's a key thing.
	You know, we're all supposed to stand against unjust laws, and you point out that civil disobedience was the key of what Martin Luther King was doing, key to what Gandhi did and so forth.
	The fact that, you know, it's a passive approach.
	You know, they didn't get violent.
	Gandhi didn't get violent.
	Martin Luther King didn't get violent.
	And the sheriffs who are going to stand there and nullify these...
	And some sheriffs arrested Martin Luther King.
	And we go through that history.
	We say, no, we don't do that today.
	Yeah, that's right. And who's doing it today?
	Well, we went after Catholics because...
	Whoever made some stupid stuff up about them, we go after Amish farmers, the most peaceful people on the face of the planet, but we arrest them anyway, and we destroy their farms anyway, because we're the federal government, and they have to do what we say.
	And this is how dictatorial and Marxist it has become, and hateful, and yet then these other groups, these hate watch groups, all join in on the hate.
	That's right. Yeah, just following orders, you know.
	And when you talk about the death threats that you're getting and Sam is getting and the government doesn't care anything about that, we've seen this as well with pro-life organizations.
	You know, they can go in and they can, you know, destroy the property.
	They can set fires and vandalize the property.
	They can threaten people's lives.
	And the federal government will do nothing at all.
	But, you know, if you stand outside and you silently protest, they'll come in and arrest you and maybe send you to jail for many, many years under the FACE Act.
	And it's just our law enforcement has just gotten so one-sided coming from the federal government.
	Their approach to all this has become so politicized in terms of what they will prosecute and what they will not prosecute.
	And, again, you're going to be standing there constantly.
	Without any assistance or support from the FBI or any of these people, if people are making death threats against you, they frankly don't care.
	They probably encourage it. Yeah, it's really sad that it is.
	And of course, SPLC, because of some of the things you've mentioned, They have lost so much credibility.
	They're still trying to get it back.
	They're trying to be relevant again.
	But 20 attorney generals across the country wrote and signed a letter saying that SPLC has no credibility left.
	When you get 20 AGs united in that, you pretty much know they got something.
	And the FBI used to use them in their training.
	They don't use them anymore. And the things that the SPLC puts out is so ridiculous.
	When I was a school teacher, I got an Intel magazine that came out to all the schools in the country.
	And on the front page, it was all about the prejudice of...
	It's really stupid.
	Honest, folks, I didn't make this up.
	Female monthly menstruation.
	Yes. Menstruation was now an article on the front page of the SPLC Intel report that went out to all the schools because I was teaching school at the time.
	This happened just five years ago.
	And I'd love to get another copy of that.
	And they were saying that was all about hate?
	It was all about kind of a hate and prejudice towards...
	Female students who have menstruation.
	They're monthly. Exactly.
	And we're supposed to take this organization seriously?
	And so I guess they couldn't find enough to blame all the racists about, and so they came up with a new thing about how girls are mistreated or whatever because they have menstruation.
	You know, I think that's been around quite a while, and I think, you know, we've learned how to deal with that, and I think women know how to deal with that.
	So thank you very much, SPLC, for bringing that up to us, but it was so asinine and ridiculous.
	I literally read it to my female principal, and I said, you've got to see this that came to the school.
	You know, because I saw it come to the school and I said, here, I picked it up.
	And they were flabbergasted.
	What in the world is this group?
	And I said, I've had to deal with them for quite a while.
	Well, I did a report about a decade ago on the SPLC and I called it Prophets of Hate.
	You know, they prophesy about, they see hate everywhere, right?
	But it's really all about the P-R-O-F-I-T-S. That's how they make their money.
	They make their money by pointing the finger at everybody.
	And I told the reporter this just a few weeks ago.
	Your SPLC wants to use me to scare all the donors into donating more money.
	And they have lots of money.
	That's right. This group has hundreds of millions of dollars.
	And so with that comes this power that they can put this stuff out everywhere worldwide that Sam and I are dangerous, you're dangerous, and all that we want.
	It's for people to obey the rule of law and the Constitution.
	Well, I'm sorry it's happening to you.
	That's what they consider dangerous.
	I'm sorry it's happening to you.
	And again, folks, don't let Sheriff Mack stand out there alone like Gary Cooper in High Noon.
	You know, that's the key thing.
	Or your sheriff in your area as well.
	We've seen this type of thing as a Saul Alinsky tactic.
	We go after one person at a time.
	We isolate them and focus everything on them.
	And so right now...
	They're focusing everything on you, but stand tall.
	We really do appreciate what you do at CSPOA.org.
	Thank you so much for joining us, Sheriff Mack.
	Thank you. David, it's been a pleasure.
	Thanks so much. Thank you, and yeah, keep fighting them.
	You've got the righteous fight that is happening there.
	We'll be right back, folks.
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	Alright, and let me respond to some of the comments and some of the tips on RockFan.
	Guard Goldsmith, good to see you there, Guard.
	Thank you for the tip. He says, thank you for such fact-filled presentations, David, and for that great interview yesterday.
	Thanks also for Tony for creating davidknight.gold.
	Here's to all of you and even Tony's pal, Beans the Brave.
	I'm not sure who Beans, is that his dog?
	Okay, yeah. Okay.
	And yes, and again, I didn't get to it today, but when you look at gold is surging and silver is moving and all the rest of the stuff because of this unrest, global unrest and economic risks of the war as well as the war, And when you look at what is happening, for example, with Bitcoin, the federal government's got over $5 billion worth of Bitcoin.
	They've had some big busts like Silk Road and some even bigger ones in the last year in 2022.
	And so they hold this massive amount, one of the biggest hodlers, as they call it, of cryptocurrency.
	When you look at that and you look at the fact that they are at war with crypto, this is even said by Sam Altman, the guy who's trying to put out world coin, and he wants to scan your eyeball and give you a couple of world coins.
	Even that guy, the AI guy, the Mark of the Beast guy, he's out there saying, well, I don't like the fact that government is coming after crypto.
	Well, they're coming after crypto because they want to push CBDC. I guess he would like to be the CBC guy.
	But that's the key thing with all of this.
	And it's one of the reasons why, when you look at physical gold and silver, that you can keep yourself very important.
	And, you know, when you look at what's going on with the crypto, I'm very concerned that the government, if they got $5 billion in it, they could easily manipulate that market.
	Of course, they manipulate the metals market.
	They manipulate the stock market.
	There's not anything that's financial, including Bitcoin.
	The government is not there to be able to manipulate, but what they want to do is to shut you down and make sure that you have to go through their central bank digital currency.
	That, to me, is the biggest issue.
	Bigger than inflation and all the rest of this stuff and unrest.
	Unrumble, NeuroDivergent.
	Thank you very much, NeuroDivergent1.
	Thank you very much for the tip.
	He said, God bless you and your family.
	I'm a long-time listener. Embarrassed to say, first-time contributor.
	Well, thank you. I pledge to start putting some money where my principles are.
	Well, thank you. I appreciate that very much.
	And on Rumble, conservative thinker, good to see you there.
	Thank you for the tip. He says, when is Travis Cam coming back?
	I don't know, Travis.
	When is it coming back? I'll have to eventually get some free time and figure out how to get another camera into this mix.
	Yeah, Travis is going to be gone for a few weeks here, and my other son is going to be taking the helm too, so he's not going to go on camera.
	Whistler doesn't like to do that, so at least be till after that, but I'd like to get him to do it.
	He's got a lot of great things to say, and he's very entertaining.
	I love listening to him.
	I'm trying to get him to participate more.
	Usually the problem is getting me to be quiet.
	Yeah, we could just shame him.
	He's done some interviews with Jason Barker and Angry Tiger, and he could do my job if he wanted to.
	Let's talk a little bit about gag orders, because everybody wants to talk about Trump's gag order.
	And as I pointed out, it's very narrowly defined.
	You just can't criticize certain people in these courtrooms and everything.
	He pretends that this is an abrogation of the First Amendment.
	It is a big issue for his campaign because this whole part of his campaign is attacking other people.
	He put it this way, always using this to make himself a martyr.
	He gave a gag order today.
	Did you hear that on speech?
	On speech, no on you.
	Totally unconstitutional what she did.
	A judge gave a gag order.
	A judge doesn't like me too much.
	Her whole life is not liking me.
	But she gave a gag order.
	You know what a gag order is?
	You can't speak badly about your opponent.
	But this is weaponry all being done because Joe Biden is losing the election and losing very, very badly to all of us in the polls.
	He's losing badly. But what they don't understand is that I am willing to go to jail if that's what it takes for our country to win and become a democracy again.
	Well maybe that is what it takes.
	Get him out of there some way or the other.
	No, it's all about him, you notice.
	He says first it's shutting down free speech, but he doesn't talk about the principles of free speech because, quite frankly, this isn't about the principles of free speech.
	It's about the fact that the only way that he campaigns is to put out juvenile, nasty names of his opponents, whether they're in court or whether they're his political opponents.
	As I said, what the judge ought to sentence him to is to force him to participate in the debate.
	We might be forced to defend his record or talk about policies, but he only wants to talk about himself.
	And then after all of that happened, he put out a post from Laura Loomer that doxxed the attorney general.
	He wants them to come after him.
	That's what makes his day.
	That's what makes him in the polls.
	It makes him into a martyr, into a victim.
	People send him money.
	He is provoking all of this stuff in a big way.
	Wouldn't it be nice if we had somebody like Pierre Polyevra, I think is the way he pronounces his name, out of Canada, somebody who could really shut down these people and then talk about policies right afterwards.
	Listen to this exchange.
	If only we had somebody this articulate, this intelligent.
	On the topic, I mean, in terms of your...
	Here's eating an apple. Currently, you're obviously taking the populist pathway.
	What does that mean? Well, appealing to people's more emotional levels, I would guess.
	Certainly you tap very strong ideological language quite frequently.
	Like what? A lot of people would say that you're simply taking a page out of the Donald Trump book.
	Probably like which people would say that.
	Well, I'm sure a great many Canadians, but...
	Like who? I don't know who, but...
	Well, you're the one who asked the question, so you must know somebody.
	Okay. I'm sure there's some out there, but anyways, the point of this question is, I mean, why should Canadians trust you with their vote, given...
	You know, not just the sort of ideological inclination in terms of taking the page of Donald Trump's book, but also...
	What are you talking about? What page?
	What page? Can you give me a page?
	Give me the page. You keep saying that.
	In terms of turning things quite dramatically in terms of Trudeau and the left wing and all of this, I mean, you make quite a, you know, it's quite a play that you make on it.
	So, I'm just wondering... I'm not sure.
	I don't know what your question is.
	Okay, then forget that. Why should Canadians trust you with their vote?
	Common sense. Common sense for a change.
	We're going to make common sense common in this country.
	We don't have any common sense in the current government.
	You know, the guy prints $600 billion, grows our money supply by 32% in three years.
	That's growing the money eight times faster than the economy.
	No wonder we have the worst inflation in four decades.
	I'm going to cap spending, cut waste, so that we can balance the budget and bring down inflation and interest rates.
	You'll want to be able to pay your mortgage again.
	You'll want to be able to afford rent.
	Then you have to vote for Pierre Polyev, because I'm the only one with a common sense plan that will bring back the buying power of your paycheck.
	Isn't that great? He owns this guy.
	Well, people say, what people?
	You know, that's one of their favorite tactics.
	What people? Well, you're this or you're that.
	What do you mean by that label?
	He can't define any of this stuff.
	And so he lets the guy make a complete fool out of himself.
	He comes back and he talks about Justin Trudeau spending money without limits, as Trump did.
	Trump's not going to be able to make that argument.
	He says, you want to be able to afford your mortgage?
	You know, I'm the one that's going to do that for you.
	Wouldn't it be nice if we had somebody who could do that?
	You know, make sense, comment again.
	I almost said exactly my slogan.
	I mean, it's making sense, comment again.
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