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	www.feyyaz.tv/savet.com Using free speech to free minds.
	You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Wednesday, the 3rd of May, the 3rd of May, year of our Lord, 2023.
	2023.
	Today we're going to have in the third hour, I think you'll find it, a fascinating and horrifying interview.
	A man who has spent 22 years of his life investigating Chinese harvesting of organs from adults, from prisoners, typically Falun Gong.
	But of course, they're after the Muslims and the Christians as well.
	Any religion is competition to tyrants, especially the Marxist brand.
	But it is truly amazing, and I think it's an illustration Where we go, if we are going to allow babies to be mutilated before birth or at birth, we will allow euthanasia.
	If we allow babies to have their organs harvested by our government on demand, the NIH, well, don't be surprised when another government does it as well to adults, and our government as well.
	We'll be right back. I want to give you a taste of this interview.
	This is from the Epoch Times.
	The House has overwhelmingly, very rare that they pretty much agree on anything, 413 to 2, they voted on a bill to stop forced organ harvesting in China, and they have massive penalties involved.
	A civil penalty of $250,000, a criminal penalty of $1 million 20 years in prison.
	Now, I'll talk to our guest about exactly what that's going to mean.
	Are they going to go in and arrest Xi Jinping?
	Of course not. What would they do with that?
	Is this merely being done now?
	We've known this for the longest time.
	I've had this discussion for decades myself.
	Going back into the 90s, I remember when we had a homeschooling group, they were going to go see the plasticized bodies on tour.
	I said, we do know that they have found some of these bodies they admitted with gunshots to their heads.
	We know that a lot of these are executed prisoners.
	We know they're doing that with organ transplants.
	We know they're doing it with live prisoners as well.
	So this has been going on for a very long time.
	You could cynically look at this and say, well, they want to ramp up attacks against China.
	That's probably why they're doing it now.
	It's probably why they waited 20 or 30 years to do this.
	But I'll just read you this brief story here.
	Her last sight of her father, who died just a little more than two months after his arrest for practicing Falun Gong, still haunts her today.
	Her breathing grew heavier as she recounted those memories from nearly two decades ago.
	Extremely thin with a face that was bruised green and purple.
	Her father's body lay cold in a forensic center room surrounded by dozens of uniformed officers.
	There was tissue missing from under the man's left eye.
	A long knife incision sewn together with black thread extended down from his throat.
	The police forced her out when she tried to unbutton his shirt to see where the stitches ended.
	Later, Her aunt and uncle tore open his shirt before the police could stop them.
	They found the incision to reach all the way to his abdomen.
	There were no organs inside, only ice.
	For a long time she struggled to accept the loss of her father.
	She dreamed of him often and would wake up in tears, she said.
	But this is something that's been going on for quite some time.
	This something goes on in our country by the people who are running the NIH, telling Planned Unparenthood, we would like to have some organs from babies.
	Well, okay, you know, they're just, Americans say, well, they're just, at this point in time, they are just garbage, right?
	They were aborted, and we support abortion.
	Well, no, it's actually, you have to do this while they're alive.
	That is the case whether you are extracting organs from an adult or from a child, because certain things happen when the body dies or is killed.
	That's especially true of an abortion.
	If you're going to start ripping the baby apart, killing it chemically, scalding it to death, burning it to death with chemicals, that's going to destroy the organs.
	So the baby has to be born alive to do this.
	If we are going to accept that practice in America, we are no better than the Chinese communists.
	And at that point, it simply is about politics.
	But we're going to talk about what is happening with that.
	Because if you don't support the sanctity of life, At any age, under any conditions, if you're going to accept that we can abort a baby because it has certain defects, if you're going to accept that we can abort a baby, period, then you will accept euthanasia on the back end of life.
	You will accept that people can be murdered like Terry Chavo when the bushes stood aside.
	The governor, the president, Jeb and W, stood aside as a probate judge ordered her to be starved to death, arresting the Christians that were there trying to give her water.
	Well, the Biden administration has approved sending 1,500 U.S. troops to the Mexican border as the Title 42 deadline looms.
	See, a lot of things are going to happen on May 11th.
	We're not that far away.
	And that is when...
	They're going to end this other executive order.
	The one that was put in by Trump's big pharma executive, Alex Cesar, who was brought over from Eli Lilly after the pharmaceutical executives gave Trump massive donations.
	He used RFK Jr.
	to say, well, I'm against, I think we need to look closely at vaccines.
	Again, both of them were saying, well, we're not against vaccines, but we need to make sure they're safe and effective.
	Well, that's essentially the same thing.
	I disagree with the people who attack RFKJ on that issue.
	I think that if you're going to, if he's calling to make sure that these things are tested, and he was saying that well before warp speed went through.
	So, you know, when he makes that statement, Trump calls him to Trump Tower.
	During the transition period, he makes that statement.
	They shoveled lots of money to Trump because they knew what was coming.
	And so how this rolled out was in January, even before Trump's executive order that released all the money, you know, Trump funded it.
	He was the producer in that sense, just like a movie producer funds the film.
	Well, he funded that movie, the pandemic movie.
	You like that movie? Yeah, vote for him again.
	He's all about making America great, isn't he?
	He funded, produced the Plandemic movie for you.
	But in January, you had Alex Azar's order, and that was the one that presumed to give the legal authority to all these different public health officials, but Trump financially incentivized it with his executive order of a national emergency.
	Anyway, this is going to end on May 11th, and so it has implications.
	It's going to mean that people can finally visit this country without a vaccine.
	People like the tennis pro, Djokovic.
	So he'll be able to come now without having a vaccine.
	We are the last major country, industrialized country, first world country, whatever you want to call it.
	We're nothing more than a banana republic when you look at our freedom.
	Because we are the only country, western country, however you want to characterize us, There's a bunch of authoritarian banana republics in the USA who still require vaccines in order to enter.
	And we are a banana republic with nuclear weapons.
	And so that's going to end on May 11th.
	It'll also end this Title 42 because you understand the only thing that Trump ever did to close the border with Mexico was this pandemic order.
	That's the only thing he ever did.
	And they're going to send, Biden's going to send 1,500 U.S. troops?
	I was saying that in 2017.
	Hey, Trump, you said you're going to end the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and bring the troops home.
	Fine. Station them at the border.
	Just put a massive number of troops there at the border.
	You know, it's going to be kind of awkward for them to run their caravans through the military encampment there.
	That's all you have to do.
	Just have it there as a deterrent.
	He never did that, by the way.
	Not even when the caravans showed up.
	He didn't do that. The border is in the state that is in because of not just the actions of Biden, but also the actions of Trump as well.
	And these 1,500 troops that are there are just nothing other than virtue signaling.
	They're symbolic only. They're only going to be there for 90 days.
	They're going to supposedly be helping with administrative duties.
	And transport roles.
	So are they going to be driving people further into the country?
	Is that what they're going to do? Administrative duties for 90 days?
	What kind of paperwork are they going to fill out?
	How are they going to even learn within 90 days what they need to do and get it processed?
	It's just nonsense.
	It'll be nothing more than catch and release.
	The troops will be armed for self-defense but will not assist with law enforcement.
	So 1,500 troops for 90 days.
	Again, if we go back to Steve Pachenik's sting.
	So we had 10,000 troops two days after the election, everywhere, arresting people.
	Why are you the only one reporting this?
	That is true.
	I mean, everybody would know that was true.
	1,500 troops. Now, you know, I don't typically cover this border stuff.
	Because it is planned chaos.
	It is a program of planned chaos by both political parties.
	By both Trump and by Biden.
	They use these issues as a wedge issue.
	But it is nothing more than chaos.
	And it is planned.
	And they're not going to do anything about it.
	It may become another campaign issue.
	But they're not going to do anything about it.
	We look at San Francisco's Whole Foods.
	I thought this was pretty amazing. 568 emergency calls made in a year.
	Just a little bit over a year.
	Fewer than 400 days, they had 568 emergency calls at the flagship store in San Francisco for Whole Foods.
	13 months. 568 calls.
	And, you know, more than one a day.
	About one and a third a day.
	And New York Times even reported on it.
	New York Times talks about what it was like in the store.
	And what some of these emergency calls were about.
	People threatened employees with guns, knives, and sticks.
	I thought they had gun control in California.
	Well, you know, you still got knives and sticks, bare hands.
	They flung food.
	They screamed.
	They fought. They tried to defecate on the floor, according to these 568 emergency calls.
	One report call stated, mail with a machete is back.
	Huh. Yeah.
	Another security guard was just assaulted.
	Another one says, a man with a four-inch knife attacked several security guards, then sprayed store employees with foam from a fire extinguisher.
	So this is the big store.
	They close this now. Office workers in San Francisco are permanently absent for about half of the week.
	People are still not coming back to work.
	But you know who's there all the time?
	The homeless person.
	Drug addicts are there all the time.
	They're there all the time.
	And when you look at the stories reported by Breitbart, they keep talking about Democrats, Democrats, Democrats.
	This is Soros' district attorneys.
	Yes, they're Democrats.
	But we need to understand that this is planned chaos, that he's spent millions of dollars to put these kinds of district attorneys and state attorneys general in across the country who will just shut down any law enforcement.
	Which, by the way, brings us back to the DACA program, right?
	You know, we had one of the reasons why Obama and Eric Holder met during the transition period into Trump, and they said, we're going to focus on district attorney races and state attorneys general races with Soros' money.
	Well, they had been able to change all the immigration laws by just using the Attorney General of the federal government to say, we're not going to enforce the law.
	Deferred action for childhood arrivals.
	Now, that was just a statement, an executive order, if you will, coming from the executive branch, coming from his, not his attorney general, actually, it was, I think it was head of Homeland Security.
	Anyway, one of those, right?
	Doing it by, if you just don't enforce the laws...
	Then, you know, we can change what the laws are.
	I just ignore the law and we do whatever we wish, in other words.
	And that's the same thing that's being done now in all these cities by the Soros District Attorneys.
	They just follow that same pattern.
	We know what the law is, but we're not going to enforce it.
	Whether it is shoplifting or any other kinds of crime, we're just going to ignore all of that, just as they ignore people coming across the border.
	And the question is, why did Trump and his attorneys general, why did they not say, okay, we're going to enforce the law?
	And now we have the White House, and we can contradict the executive orders of the previous president.
	That was done by Biden. Why didn't Trump do that?
	No. Instead, he took it to the Supreme Court and asked them to rule on it.
	Why did he do that? Because he didn't really want to do anything about it.
	He didn't want the political pressure.
	He wanted to tell his voters that he was doing something about it, but he wanted to kick the ball over to the Supreme Court so he didn't have to do anything about it.
	He had the authority to enforce the law.
	He had the authority to overrule an executive order.
	And amazingly, the Supreme Court said no.
	And then he abided by that ridiculous statement.
	We have, when we're talking about trials, the Proud Boys trial, reported yesterday by NBC News, that the jury may be hung on that.
	May be unable to come up with the unanimous verdict, at least on all of the defendants, because there's several of them there.
	They just asked the judge in the case to provide more specific instructions on the definition of seditious conspiracy as well as what do we do if we can't, you know, arrive unanimously on all of these charges.
	And this is one of only two trials of the so-called January 6th insurrection where anybody's been charged with insurrection.
	Most of the time, they charged people with trespassing or unlawful parading.
	They threw the book at them, of course.
	And they typically got their convictions essentially immediately.
	Within a matter of minutes, the jury comes back and rubber stamps these ridiculous charges.
	And... This is in the District of Columbia, where Biden got 93% of the vote.
	The government has made no allegation that Proud Boys actually planned to breach the Capitol, let alone use violence to change the outcome of the election, or to overthrow the government, barehanded, Half a dozen people barehanded.
	And thank you for the tip on Rockfin, Igor.
	Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
	But, you know, that is the amazing thing.
	I'm watching this trial because I know Joe Biggs.
	I've done several on-the-road reports with him in past years when we both worked together there.
	But what the jury came back with in their note to the judge, said we would like clarification in charges one through four, conspiracy charges, Can they have more than one goal?
	Can we agree, you know, upon the objective of the conspiracy simultaneously?
	Do we have to satisfy both of these goals?
	What do we do if we can't agree unanimously on a charge?
	Well, you know, the Valiant News spoke with an attorney who is not part of this trial and But had represented defendant Zachary Rail in the past.
	They asked him, what does this mean?
	He says, well, this is about the messy, convoluted way in which the trial has dealt with the whole concept of conspiracy.
	He said, while most people, who are not lawyers, would consider a conspiracy to mean an agreed-upon plan to commit an illegal act, Such as robbing a bank.
	The prosecution wants it always, he said, in every kind of way.
	According to the prosecution of this case and the earlier Oath Keepers case, a conspiracy can exist in the absence of a plan.
	Another legal fiction.
	And while different conspirators all have different goals, as long as they share the same unlawful objective.
	Well, what's the difference between an objective and a goal?
	He says, if the difference between an objective and a goal sounds confusing, it is because it is confusing.
	Taken broadly, the government is almost arguing that conspiracy can take place silently and subconsciously through winks and nods.
	For instance, the prosecution contends that Tarrio's mention of 1776 in a group chat was a code phrase to fellow Proud Boys to signal that it's time for a violent revolution.
	What if he just said 1619?
	Would that be okay? Since all sides agree that there never was a Proud Boy plan to violently storm the Capitol, they don't even say that there was a plan to violently storm the Capitol, because there wasn't a plan, let alone to overthrow the federal government without any firearms.
	It's a challenge for the jury to conclude that separate defendants with separate goals in separate places are guilty of the same crime.
	This would mean at least one juror must be considering acquittal for at least one of the Proud Boys, even if voting to convict the others.
	So, this is the Orwellian Kafkaesque world that we now live in under this politicized justice system, so-called justice system.
	Different standards for different people depending on who their politics are.
	And this kind of Orwellian insanity of 2 plus 2 equals 5.
	2 plus 2 equals a conspiracy, even if they don't have a plan for our same goal.
	And, yeah, conspiracy to overthrow our government.
	How about the conspiracy to overthrow our government by Davos in the...
	World Economic Forum.
	How about the conspiracy to overthrow our government by the GOP and the Democrats to overthrow our Constitution that they engage in virtually every day?
	How about the conspiracy to overthrow our government by Fauci, the CDC, the WHO, Trump and Biden, for example, throughout all that?
	Those are the people who are overthrowing our government, Trump included.
	I just still cannot understand why anybody would go there after what happened in 2020.
	To support that piece of filth, that traitorous Benedict Donald piece of filth, what he did to our country with the lockdowns, with the universal basic income he called stimulus and PPPs, with the warp speed vaccine that he put out there.
	Why would anybody show up to support that piece of filth then or now?
	And you were warned, at least by me, That it was a trap.
	And it was a trap not just for you.
	But they laid a trap for everybody who is conservative.
	They construed this whole thing to attack everybody who believes that we should have a constitutional government.
	Because of Trump. Apple and Google are teaming up to create alerts.
	In case you have location tracking happening to you.
	And of course we know that Google especially, but also Apple, the phones are the big brother device.
	I've talked about this many times.
	I've shown you the clips many times that we got from Ed Snowden.
	Where the NSA was saying, who would have thought in 1984, they show the 1984 Macintosh commercial.
	It was done by Ridley Scott.
	Who would have thought in 1984 that this would be big brother?
	Steve Jobs holding up the iPhone.
	And that the zombies would line up to pay for it themselves, and they show the big crowd at the Apple store.
	Google and Apple, in regard to this, in terms of geofence warrants, which entrapped a lot of people with January the 6th, they've been the deputized state for geospatial intelligence.
	And I've said that as well.
	I said geospatial intelligence has been the fastest growing part of the intelligence community since the late 1990s.
	And that is to map people and their political and religious beliefs to do things like geofence warranting and to do other things like anticipatory intelligence, stuff like that.
	They're now rolling this out through their corporate partnerships.
	The public-private partnership for Tierney.
	The deputized state.
	And now they want all of you to know that they're going to take some measures to make this visible when you're being watched.
	You know, let somebody know that their movements are being spied on through Bluetooth location tracking products.
	You notice that they didn't talk about the cell phone locations, the data from the cell phones and all the rest of the stuff that they're collecting.
	This came about because of the Apple tags, the Bluetooth tags that have been used to stalk some people.
	And so they're putting that there because they want you to feel and have, actually, some security against individuals who are doing this.
	And yet, at the same time, They're going to be the partners of the government who is doing this.
	Google has turned this stuff over to the government so many times.
	So there is a trial that is before the Supreme Court right now case.
	They will be hearing arguments for it about whether or not the Supreme Court could rein in the administrative state with a new case.
	This is on Reason Magazine.
	And when they talk about the administrative state, they're talking about all the alphabet agencies that are under the executive branch that basically do whatever they wish.
	They can tax us at will.
	They can regulate us at will.
	The regulations that they come up with are even worse than a law that would be done by your elected representatives because there is no presumption of innocence.
	There is no due process.
	There is no protection against excessive fines.
	I've talked about this over and over again because it needs to be talked about.
	It's something most people are not talking about.
	And so Reason says, so is everything that's not forbidden then permissible for federal agencies?
	Well, not if you look at the Bill of Rights.
	Not if you look at the 9th and especially the 10th Amendment.
	No. But they said that's the question at the heart of a legal battle that the Supreme Court on Monday agreed to hear.
	So they agreed to hear it.
	They haven't heard it yet.
	A case which could hopefully curtail the power of the administrative state.
	Does statutory silence, that is, nothing in a law saying yes or no, does statutory silence on powers narrowly granted elsewhere mean that the federal agency has the authority to use those powers broadly?
	Or must explicit authority to act be granted by Congress?
	See, this is where reason gets it wrong.
	Congress cannot explicitly grant authority for anything to the regulatory agencies unless the Constitution specifically grants that to Congress to give to somebody else.
	Congress doesn't have that power to delegate to somebody.
	It doesn't have it to start with because of the 9th and 10th Amendment.
	Everything must be explicitly stated.
	It cannot be implied.
	And if it is not explicitly stated, they don't have it.
	Those powers are reserved to the states and to the people.
	That's what the Tenth Amendment says.
	It's why are we pretending otherwise?
	Why is reason pretending otherwise?
	Even as they look at all the details of this, there's a big glaring elephant in the room, the Tenth Amendment, that they don't even want to look at.
	And so what do they do? Instead of looking at the Constitution, reason goes back and looks at previous court cases.
	You know, we have this current case right here where you have a situation, a regulatory agency, which, where's the constitutional authority for the National Marine Fisheries Service?
	Where's the constitutional authority for that?
	And so Congress created this thing, and they are...
	They are monitoring what fishing boats are doing, and they want the fishermen to pay for the monitoring equipment.
	They say, wait a minute, you don't have the authority and the statutory stuff for that.
	We'll just pretend for a moment that there's authority for this agency to even exist.
	And that there's authority for them to create rules or laws like that, whether it's done by Congress or done by the regulatory agency.
	And they say this goes back, this could overturn a 1984 case, Chevron v.
	Natural Resources Defense Council.
	It set a precedent of extreme deference to federal agencies in cases concerning the limits of their statutory authority.
	But the problem that reason doesn't see, Is that, you know, the Congress cannot convey any of this stuff to a regulatory agency if it doesn't happen in the first place.
	But just another example of how we have taxation without representation, we have regulation without representation.
	And the people who are scrutinizing all this stuff can't see past the 1984 court case.
	Can't see to the Constitution.
	That was written a couple of hundred years before that, 1789, you know, put that thing together.
	we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back
	music plays
	music plays you're listening to the David Knight Show music plays music plays
	so why am I playing this Because Gordon Whitefoot just passed away at the age of 84.
	It harkens back to a time, at least in my mind, To a saner society.
	A time when we had actually had music that way.
	We now have, though, copyright issues that are now front and center.
	Interesting case between the estate of Marvin Gaye's co-writer...
	Townsend, Ed Townsend, co-writer of a song, and both Marvin Gaye and Townsend are dead.
	This is the daughter of Townsend.
	And so it is a Marvin Gaye song that they say has been ripped off by Ed Sheeran in a 2014 hit.
	So this is something that went back to 1973.
	And then 41 years later, after these guys are all dead and gone, Somebody else writes a song and they say, well, I think there's some similarity in that.
	And we're going to come after you for a copyright violation.
	He has publicly said this has taken a big toll on him, this copyright case.
	Not only is it draining because of any kind of lawsuit, but he says it has attacked him personally, his integrity and everything else.
	And I think it's kind of interesting because when you stop and think about pop music, Typically, it follows, you know, the I, IV, V chord progressions.
	And it's amazing to me that you can have so many different variations on those three basic chords.
	That's what's really amazing.
	But, of course, there's going to be a lot of overlap with that.
	There's going to be overlap of different musical styles.
	They're going to have the same kind of beat.
	I mean, just take a look at all these, you know, Motown-style beat or whatever, a sound, a particular sound, the Motown sound.
	There's all these commonalities.
	It is truly amazing. That you have as much variation as you do, that you don't step on each other's toes.
	You have a musician, his name is Beto, and he compared, did an analysis, Rick Beto, a musician, and he's on YouTube, and he's always struggling with YouTube censorship.
	Because he plays guitar and he'll talk about different guitar licks that he does.
	He's got to be very careful about what he even plays because YouTube will take it down.
	And this is why this is even a bigger issue.
	The very first...
	Censorship that I got, or that Infowars got for that matter, was in 2013 with the It's a Wonderful Lie video talking about the creation of the Federal Reserve.
	Now, there was a lot of content in that about the Federal Reserve being created.
	I had a couple of clips from It's a Wonderful Life.
	Where did I get those?
	I got them from the entire movie that had been up on YouTube for a very long time.
	Had a million views. Had been up for years.
	They did not monetize the movies at that point in time.
	It was available for free.
	But even though I used a couple of clips under fair use, taken from the entire movie that was up on YouTube, YouTube took down my Federal Reserve movie.
	Because it wasn't about the copyright issues.
	This can be used as a beard to shut down anything they don't want people talking about.
	And that's the way they used it in that particular case.
	But it's also going to be, as Elon Musk says, if this keeps going, making any new music will be illegal.
	And that is absolutely true.
	But let's look at what Rick Bito had to say about...
	I'm comparing these two songs.
	And he shifted. They're in different key.
	So he shifted one of them in key and he plays the verse as well as the chorus back to back from the two different songs.
	I made a video about it and I did a comparison of the verse of the songs which are similar.
	Let me play that for you.
	Let me play that for you.
	Heart could still fall less.
	Heart at 23.
	And if you feel like I feel, baby.
	I'm thinking about how Okay, so what I did between the two tracks is I took the Marvin Gaye track and I transposed it down a half step so they'd be in the same key.
	But other than that, as you can see, the grooves and the vibe of both songs are pretty identical.
	The question here is...
	Is this stolen from the Marvin Gaye song?
	Do they have a claim here?
	This is a really tough area.
	If you define the song as the melody and lyrics, I would say that the melody and lyrics are not similar in the verse part, because definitely in the chorus, they're not similar at all.
	If you consider the song to be, let's say you have the verses and the chorus, and each are weighted 50%, Is Marvin Gaye entitled to 25% of the money of the song, right?
	Or splitting the verse?
	Since the melodies are not the same, but the musical content is really borrowed from Marvin Gaye's, it is.
	I mean, there's just no question.
	And so the reality, though, is that this isn't going to Marvin Gaye.
	Marvin Gaye died a long time ago.
	Marvin Gaye was shot by his father in a family dispute 39 years ago.
	In a family domestic dispute, shot dead.
	So, this is going to a corporation that has now bought this stuff and is keeping it going.
	We're talking about zombie singers here, right?
	And we're talking about the perpetuity of these copyright laws that are being done for banks and big business.
	That's what we're talking about.
	We're not even talking about this guy or his family.
	This is 39 years ago.
	These people want this stuff to last forever.
	You want to talk about DeSantis' war with Disney and Reedy Creek?
	Oh, Disney got its own special copyright extensions from Mickey Mouse and all the rest of this stuff.
	Over and above these excessive protections that are in law, Disney was able to get special treatment there as well.
	Not just in the Reedy Creek district, but special treatment on copyright issues from Congress.
	Just like, you know, Eli Lilly, where Trump pulled Alex Azar to be HHS head.
	Just like Eli Lilly got special privileges put in.
	They called it the Lilly writer in one of these pieces of legislation.
	You know, this big corporation has called us and they want this special stuff, so let's give it to them.
	You know, they give us a little bit of money and we give them back a lot.
	In terms of copyright protection, in terms of liability protection, all the rest of this stuff.
	That's why congressmen are the best investment you can ever make.
	You give them a little bit of money, and your return on investment is going to be several thousand percent.
	You can't go wrong.
	Elon Musk knows that much about it anyway.
	So, in terms of Ed Sheeran...
	He said on Monday, if he's found liable of ripping off Marvin Gayes, let's get it on.
	He said he, as he was talking to the jury, they also had him play guitar for the Manhattan jury.
	The British singer-songwriter expressed the toll that the copyright infringement case had on him as his attorney asked, what would happen if the trial, which began last week in federal court, what would happen if that doesn't pan out his way and the plaintiffs win ownership of the chord progression in his song?
	This is nothing other than just greedy lawyers and bankers and investors.
	And they're going to strangle everything in our society if we don't stop this kind of stuff.
	The copyright law, like I understand there needs to be copyright protection, intellectual property protection.
	But there also needs to be some sanity about how long it's going to last.
	And they keep extending it and extending it and extending it way past the life of the person who created it.
	And he says, well, if that happens, I'm done.
	I'm stopping. He said, I find it really insulting to work my whole life as a singer-songwriter and then to have it all diminished.
	That's true. And to attack his credibility as well.
	So, who is writing the jokes?
	Who's writing the music? Who's writing the jokes?
	Well, nobody's writing the jokes right now.
	They've got a Writer's Guild strike.
	And I was surprised to see...
	They're going to cancel the late night shows.
	These guys that are out there reading the jokes that other people write for them just can't hack it.
	My first response to it, I told Karen, I said, they've got writers on the late night shows?
	Well, obviously these people are already overpaid.
	I... I was absolutely amazed at how unfunny they are and how, you know, there's nothing other than propaganda.
	But the good news is that late-night TV and many movies will be canceled for now, at least, and delayed.
	So there's a silver lining in all of this that is going to shut down some of this garbage that is coming out.
	But, of course, the government wants to shut down your speech.
	And that's what the Restrict Act is.
	The most prominent congressional effort aimed at achieving a ban of TikTok, is the way this Zero Hedge article puts it.
	This is not about banning TikTok.
	I don't understand, again, why people are focusing on that.
	I absolutely am convinced that the target of the Restrict Act is not TikTok.
	It's not China.
	It's crypto. Why would they say that if you use a VP, we're going to identify certain websites that we don't want you to go to?
	And they don't say anything about TikTok in this.
	And this is one of the things in this article that's on Zero Hedge.
	It's from Real Clear Wire.
	And one of the things they say was, you know, the restrict act doesn't even mention TikTok.
	What does it mention?
	Well, it says we're going to identify certain places that we don't want you to go to.
	And if you go to those places, you'll get a fine.
	If you use a VPN to go there secretly, we'll give you a million dollar fine.
	Why that much money?
	Well, because we're talking about crypto.
	And because a lot of people have got a lot of money invested in crypto.
	And if they want to ban these entry and exit points onto the crypto world with the banks, which is what they do want to do, then they're going to make it a big financial penalty.
	The people who want to use TikTok, these idiot teenagers, probably don't even know what a VPN is.
	They're not going to be using a VPN. Why would you need a million dollar fine to go after some idiot teenager, some idiot LGB tranny or something?
	Why would you need a million dollar fine for that?
	You don't! This is simply because it's about shutting down crypto.
	And people continue to write articles about how bad the Restrict Act is, and it is.
	It is an awful act.
	But it's not about TikTok.
	It's not about China.
	Any more than the Patriot Act was about Al-Qaeda.
	You understand? They pick these beards out there.
	So TikTok is to the Restrict Act.
	What Al-Qaeda and 9-11 was to the Patriot Act.
	They wanted to put that stuff in there.
	They needed to have some kind of a presumed patsy.
	There is real censorship that is about to take place in Ireland.
	Very big as well.
	It's on the verge of enacting the most draconian anti-speech law in the West.
	Ireland, a country that long chafed under England's repressive governance, writes an article at AmericanThinker.com, is about to become very repressive itself.
	It's about to put into effect a speech bill that is so repressive that anyone who even receives a text Can run afoul of the law and be arrested if he does not immediately delete and disavow the text.
	This is where the Western civilization has now what we've come to.
	After fighting and establishing liberty for the longest time and the values of free speech, this is what it's now come to in Ireland.
	Somebody sends you a text.
	And somebody in the Irish government thinks that it's hateful, you know, because it says something about traditional marriage.
	And so because you're going to come against traditional marriage, which has been the definition of marriage from the beginning of time, male and female, he created them for the purpose of a family.
	And that has been agreed to everywhere, as I've said many times when we were debating.
	And, you know, they lost every single referendum on redefining marriage.
	Even in California.
	Even with millions of dollars from Tim Cook and from Apple.
	They still lost, even in California.
	So it was imposed by the Supreme Court on everybody.
	And yet, as I was going through, I pointed out that even in Greece, where homosexuality was accepted, normalized, they did not have homosexual marriage.
	They said marriage is about a family.
	It's about children. And so not even there.
	But if you were to send somebody a text to say what I just said in Ireland, then the authoritarian dictators...
	Would, if you did not disavow me to them, report me to them, and delete the text, well, then you would be now guilty of that.
	The law that is titled Criminal Justice, Incitement to Violence or Hatred or Hate Offenses.
	You see, this is where the danger of all this hate speech stuff goes.
	And this is the big issue, in my opinion, in my opinion.
	Looking at DeSantis.
	This is his biggest issue.
	You can fault him for not going far enough in terms of pushing back on the lockdown issues and the mask issues and the vaccine issues.
	You can talk about how he didn't do it soon enough.
	He didn't go far enough, but he did it sooner than anybody else.
	He did it far more than anybody else.
	But when it comes to the speech issue, his embracing of hate speech and signing that bill in Israel, People are asking, you know, who's paid for his plane flight?
	Who paid for his plane flights that he's been making as part of his campaign that's not yet an official campaign?
	He can't announce it officially.
	So who's paying for these plane flights as he's flying around the country?
	But as he's flying into other countries, he's now gone twice into Israel to sign anti-free speech bills in Israel.
	So the Irish law, Passed through the legislature in February with only four representatives out of 160 voting against it.
	Nearly unanimous.
	That's how bad this is. Most in the public were not even aware of the bill.
	And if they'd thought about it, they probably would have congratulated themselves on being such a nice country in which hate speech is barred.
	It was only when an Irish conservative commentator, Keith Woods, who was reinstated on Twitter...
	Thanks to Elon Musk's commitment to free speech.
	Now, see, this is the American thinker.
	They've been taken in by Musk.
	I'm sorry. Objectively, as MRCTV pointed out, objectively, there is more censorship under Twitter.
	And the penalties are under Elon Musk on Twitter.
	And the penalties are worse than they were before he took it over.
	I haven't seen any improvement whatsoever.
	I still see sites and people says, oh, you don't want to read this person's comments.
	You don't want to go to this place.
	You've got to click this to see this offensive comment.
	And it's something like, oh, yeah, I agree with that.
	Now, it's not the comment.
	It's the person that they're shadow banning.
	That is all still going on.
	So I don't buy the argument that Musk is about free speech.
	Sorry. But Ireland is about to pass one of the most radical hate speech bills yet.
	Merely possessing hateful material on your devices, said Keith Woods, is enough to face prison time.
	Not only that, but the burden of proof is shifted to the accused.
	This is what the regulatory state always does.
	Whether you're talking about the IRS or you're talking about the FAA, well, prove to me that you didn't have rude behavior with that stewardess or whatever on the plane.
	The burden of proof is shifted to the accused who is expected to prove that they didn't intend to use the information in a hateful way.
	So, and again, hate speech itself.
	We're judging people's motives, which you can't typically do accurately.
	I mean, sometimes you can understand if they're openly vocal about it, but typically their motivation in terms of creating a crime, you can take a look at somebody's presumed motivation and create a list of suspects for a crime, but you would have evidence for a crime.
	These are thought crimes.
	Thought crimes have no place in a free society.
	Censorship has no place in a free society.
	The bill has all sorts of sections and subsections for different speech offenses.
	They all revolve around silencing anything but positive speech about people with, quote, protected characteristics.
	And those characteristics are defined as color, Nationalist, religion, national or ethnic origin, descent, gender, sex characteristics, sexual orientation, or disability. And of course, the gender is the entire spectrum of these imaginary genders that we have out here.
	This is all about making everybody bow.
	To their LGBT religion.
	Ireland, again, well, merely possessing hateful material on your devices is enough to face prison time.
	Burden of proof is on you.
	And commenting about this, Information Liberation said, this is so radical that even the Trotskyist people before profit party opposed it.
	Think about that.
	You know, even the Marxist censors.
	Now, this is pretty crazy.
	And it's insane what is happening in the free world, said Donald Trump Jr.
	Well, I thought so, too, when your daddy locked us up, Jr., We locked us down when he came out with all the rest of the stuff.
	I thought it was insane what was happening in a quote-unquote free world under Mr.
	Maga. So DeSantis, again, signing a hate speech legislation in a foreign country.
	That's where we are right now.
	So Ireland was quite possibly the most conservative country in all of Europe just two decades ago, writes Information Liberation.
	But since Google, Apple, Facebook, and other U.S. megacorporations fluttered into the country to take advantage of their low tax rates and then to exert their influence, they've now become one of the most liberal.
	You see, this is the problem.
	Besides the subsidies given to big corporations, When you subsidize these big corporations to come into your state, and there's now been several of these things that have been done recently by the Tennessee governor, Lee.
	Lee surrenders yet again.
	Giving massive subsidies to big corporations to come in, and guess what follows?
	Those big corporations are going to start changing your culture, your law, your society.
	They're going to put pressure on that governor.
	You know, we pay them to come in.
	We give them special favors, just like Disney, right?
	And we don't give that to the small businesses.
	No, the taxes will be raised on the small businesses.
	Taxes will be raised on us, and they will come in with their own special rules and push the politicians around.
	Why? Because they kick back a lot of that money to the politicians.
	Southern Poverty Law Centers were talking about hate speech.
	They've always had a list of hate groups.
	And they can put you on there for a lot of different things.
	I don't know why they put me on.
	I don't hate anybody.
	Well, politicians, but you know.
	That's okay, isn't it?
	Because they hate us, so we can hate them back, right?
	No, that's not. But, no, I hate what they do.
	And if you speak out on the policies that Southern Poverty Law Center doesn't like, they put you on a hate list.
	You know, they just did that to traditional Catholics, right?
	And the FBI picked up on that and started surveilling them and doing other things like that.
	They have put the Family Research Council, I think it was, the people, it's because they support traditional marriage and two genders.
	They label them as a hate group.
	Remember that? You had the Chick-fil-A shooter and the guy comes in with a bunch of Chick-fil-A sandwiches and said, I'm here with a special order.
	He came in there, he wanted to shoot the place up, and they spotted what he was doing.
	They shut him down, but he did shoot one person who was stopping him.
	He was motivated by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	He said the Southern Poverty Law Center said that you're a hate group, Family Research Council.
	So they hate the Christian Family Research Council.
	They hate traditional Catholics.
	And they, in this particular case...
	Hate an immigration group, the Dustin Inman Society.
	The founder is D.A. King.
	He said they work against illegal immigration, and because of that, they were labeled a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	But he said they have no problem with immigrants, legal immigrants.
	And as a matter of fact, they got legal immigrants on the organization's board, and Mr.
	King's adopted sister is an immigrant.
	And so he said it is defamation.
	For the Southern Poverty Law Center to call him an anti-immigrant hate group.
	And they're suing them in Alabama.
	And this is the first time that the case, when people have sued the Southern Poverty Law Center for defamation, this is the first time that a judge hasn't just thrown it out.
	Because the Southern Poverty Law Center will say, well, you know, we are, we're not This is just our opinion, and we're entitled to have our opinion, and we can call you hateful if we want, and that's not hate speech.
	Really? See, that's the double standard that we have here.
	Defamation cases are almost impossible to win, particularly for those who are deemed to be public figures, as Mr.
	King acknowledged that he is for this case.
	To prevail, he must prove not only that the Southern Poverty Law Center was wrong, But you have to show actual malice in making the claims.
	You see, this is the issue with the Fox Dominion case.
	And this is the issue with Tucker Carlson.
	The fact that he was writing texts to other people saying that he didn't believe that Dominion had done anything wrong, but then publicly saying they did.
	That shows both that the statements were false and that there was actual malice in it.
	So that was the issue with the Fox case.
	And it is kind of interesting how many different conspiracies there have been now coming up about Tucker Carlson.
	They've just come up with a new one.
	Well, you know, it was a couple weeks before Tucker was fired that you had Rupert Murdoch and his son talking to Zelensky.
	So Zelensky got him fired, you know, and all the rest of this stuff.
	I mean, it's just one thing after the other.
	Now, I think it was the lawsuits.
	I don't even think it was as much the Dominion lawsuit, as I said.
	We see some stories that Maria Bartiroma and Romo and Janine, Judge Janine, I don't watch Fox News.
	I don't. See what people say about them.
	I see some of the clips. I don't have time to watch Fox News.
	It's a limited hangout, low information, lots of commercials, especially ask your doctor, pharmaceutical commercials.
	I don't even watch Fox News when I'm in a hotel room.
	I've got other things to do.
	But anyway, Judge Jeanine and Bartiromo, now there's this whisper campaign saying, oh, they might be fired.
	Well, it may be people who are trying to get them fired.
	But as I said before, I thought if it was the Fox Dominion case, you would have seen some people like them go first.
	You know, they've got a smaller viewership, and they had more of an engagement in all this stuff than Tucker Carlson did.
	But I said I did think that the coming lawsuits from Ray Epps and from a staff member, whether or not they have merit, that's not the case, that's not the issue.
	I think after this big case and this big payout and yet another lawsuit coming from Smartmatic, I look at it and it's like, you know, the...
	They just don't want to go through all this again.
	They don't want to go through the embarrassment and the discrediting of discovery for these different cases.
	And so it's like, you know, he's gone.
	Anyway, you can come up with a lot of different reasons for why Tucker was kicked out, and people are coming up with new ones every day.
	But, you know, he's just a news presenter, and he has...
	Again, been a limited hangout on some of the most vital existential issues of our time in the last few years.
	And even before that, you know, when you look at 9-11.
	And now he seems to have come around, but he still doesn't want to get into the details of it.
	And he says, well, what about Building 7 now?
	After all the years that he poo-pooed it.
	So, again, take a look at what people say.
	He can say good things and he can put it in a very effective way.
	He's got a lot of writers who are helping him with that.
	So, there's some good that can come out of that.
	Support him when he says the right thing.
	Oppose him when he does the wrong thing or when he does a limited hangout.
	That's what I'm going to do. This is the very first defamation lawsuit, however, with the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	That has specifically challenged the hate group accusation.
	It's the first one to make it to discovery.
	See? And that's the key.
	The discovery aspect of it.
	That's where they found the embarrassing text messages.
	That's what I think was even more important than the money.
	A lawsuit hasn't been filed by Ray Epps or by this person who worked for Tucker Carlson that never met Tucker Carlson.
	But it's not going to be as much money as these voting machine things.
	The voting machine things were ludicrous to start with.
	It was a ludicrous amount. As Alan Dershowitz said, they failed to even show how they were damaged.
	You know, $1.4 billion, and now the Smartmatic is going to be $2.8 billion.
	It wouldn't have been the money for these two potential new Tucker lawsuits.
	It wouldn't have been the money. It would have been the discovery.
	So the American people may finally see behind the curtain of how the Southern Poverty Law Center runs its hate group scam.
	That's the important thing about this story, about this lawsuit.
	Because the FBI has used them in the past.
	It was probably about seven or eight years ago that the FBI was labeling people based on the Southern Poverty Law Center's labels.
	And when they were called out on it, like with the Family Research Council and others, they said, all right, all right, we'll stop that.
	But they didn't stop it because we just saw it happen again with people who are, quote, radical traditionalist Catholic ideology, quote, unquote.
	What an oxymoron that is, radical traditionalist.
	After it came to light, the Bureau was forced to recant that memo, but they're still doing it again.
	And Southern Poverty Law Center says this.
	I'm joking. This is from the Washington Times.
	They say, Southern Poverty Law Center's work used to be universally praised.
	What are they talking about?
	Universally praised? Praised by all of the race pips and the hate pushers and the left, and even the left.
	Looked at the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	I did a report on them over a decade ago.
	I call it the prophets of hate.
	You know, oh yes, we're prophesying that you're going to be a hate group.
	No, the P-R-O-F-I-T-S, the money, and how much money they put on offshore accounts, hundreds of millions of dollars, and how even people on the left...
	The different organizations that evaluate charities.
	They said, you know, the SPLC is not a good charity.
	They skim a lot of money.
	They don't spend very much money on what they say they want to fight.
	They keep most of it themselves.
	And not only do they keep it themselves, but they put it offshore.
	And so you even had leftist groups saying, the SPLC is not a good group to support.
	There's a lot of others that are a lot more honest and put your work to money and your cause.
	So they were not universally praised.
	But the Washington Times says, but it has become more controversial as the organization has expanded its hate level beyond traditional violent racist organizations such as the KKK to snare conservative Christian outfits, you know, on traditional marriage. Because if you agree with traditional marriage and two genders, you are obviously, or you're anti-groomer, or you're obviously hateful.
	You need to be shut down. The Southern Poverty Law Center has acknowledged that its labels are less science and more political argument.
	And they've said that in legal briefs.
	This is what they said. SPLC's anti-immigrant hate group designation is not capable of being proven false.
	It is an opinion expressed as part of a political debate.
	And so, you know, our opinions are protected, they say.
	It's our opinion that you're hateful.
	So, there. And it doesn't matter how that damages you.
	You can't do anything about it.
	And that has always kept them out of court.
	Except now, this judge, Judge Watkins...
	He says that, well, if you're going to say that these people are a hate group because they're against illegal immigrants, you're saying they're anti-immigrant.
	Anti-immigrant. And that would mean all immigrants.
	He said immigrant is defined in federal law.
	It's very easy to understand what anti-immigrant means, therefore.
	He said it should be clear to Southern Poverty Law Center attorneys who encompass some of the brightest legal minds in the country, That the inference of anti-immigrant label is that Dustin Inman Society and Mr.
	King hate legal immigrants, including those who have become citizens.
	So again, they say, well, it doesn't mean, you know, it's just a...
	Fundraising term or something.
	It doesn't mean that the designation is factual.
	And so this guy says, we want an apology, we want a retraction.
	I want discovery. That's what I want to see.
	And so the...
	It'll be interesting to see what is actually happening in their internal discussions as they identify people as hate groups.
	They said, his lawyer said, if he wins, every other group that has been attacked with this label will be able to use a ruling to jujitsu, Southern Poverty Law Center, and delegitimize it.
	Well, as far as I'm concerned, Mark Potok and Morris Deese are delegitimized.
	I've talked about that many times.
	His involvement in the civil rights movement was limited to defending The KKK marchers who burned the buses and beat the peaceful demonstrators.
	That's all Morse Dees did.
	And after setting out for a long time, he got the mailing list from the Democrat Party and then put himself out as Mr.
	Anti-KKK. The only thing that he did throughout the Civil Rights Movement was to defend the Ku Klux Klan.
	And you want to talk about hate crime?
	Let's continue talking about hate crime.
	In New York City, you got this homeless guy.
	And now they're looking for him for a hate crime.
	And the New York Police Department has put a reward out for up to $3,500 for this guy.
	What was it that he did?
	This is not going to be somebody they're going to catch and release.
	He didn't rob a store.
	He didn't beat anybody.
	He didn't sucker punch somebody because of the color of their skin.
	Instead, what he did was he defecated on a gay pride flag.
	Uh, and then he carved a smiley face on this, on the pile.
	And he was caught on surveillance footage.
	The general manager there, 34, identifies as gay and said the restaurant where he's worked for six years has, quote, a very inclusive, largely LGBT identifying staff that includes professional drag queens, not amateur drag queens, you know, the real professional ones.
	What does that mean?
	Anyway, so the New York Police Department has actually got a hate crimes task force.
	I hate hate crimes, in case you haven't noticed.
	This poor hobo's information liberation points out could have defecated on an American flag, and Alvin Bragg would not only not charge him with a hate crime, but would not charge him at all in the name of fighting systemic racism and white supremacy.
	That's probably what would happen.
	And censorship, not just in Ireland, but in the UK itself, it looks like they may wind up censoring Wikipedia.
	They said Wikipedia could be potentially banned from the UK as a result of impending censorship legislation.
	And what this amounts to is this is another one of the issues where they want to have age-protected content.
	And that's already been put out there in Utah.
	That, more than anything, is really trying to establish an internet ID and to get rid of anonymity on the internet.
	That's what it's really about. It's not about protecting the kids.
	If it was about protecting the kids, they wouldn't be showing them explicit pornography To kids in libraries and schools.
	They don't care about that stuff.
	And that's what we're talking about here.
	The same kind of stuff that they demand that you put in schools, that they demand that you put in libraries, that they call you a book banner for.
	That's the kind of material that they're concerned about on Wikipedia.
	And they want to make sure that you give them an ID so they know the age of the person that's there.
	But they don't care about the age of the person.
	As a matter of fact, they specifically target it for elementary school kids.
	In schools and in libraries.
	This is why I say that it's not about protecting the kids.
	You know, they fight like demons in order to push pornography at kids and schools and libraries.
	But then they also want to say, well, we've got to protect everybody, so show us your ID to get on the Internet.
	And so Wikipedia says if you're going to have an ID verification check, we'll just shut the site down for the UK. And again, in the UK, it certainly has bad, if not worse, than the US in terms of pushing this pornography on kids in elementary school.
	The online safety bill will have social media companies and other websites be placed under the purview of Britain's national broadcasting regulator, Ofcom.
	So you hear about Ofcom all the time.
	It's the bane of Top Gear when we're watching it, you know.
	You can't make jokes about this group or that person or anything else.
	And a lot of other people.
	Always getting flagged by Ofcom.
	Censors without a sense of humor.
	It would grant censorship powers on the internet now, not just on UK television.
	With the ability to fine firms up to 10% of their global revenue, or even a potential outright ban should they fall afoul of vaguely determined harm standards.
	Now, to ban a website, right?
	We're getting, this is a preparatory step again.
	When you look at this bill, this is not about protecting kids from pornography.
	This is about getting an internet ID. And this penalty that they have here of banning a website, As I just reported the last couple of days, we have VeriSign, which is, you know, along with Icon, they control the web domains.
	VeriSign has the.com and the.net domain names.
	And they've already announced that they're going to test banning certain domain names with.net to start with.
	And that's where this is going.
	So what this is about, what they're doing in the UK, what they're doing in Europe as well, It's about getting rid of any anonymous browsing on the internet.
	Any anonymous free speech has to be censored, and we have to know who you are.
	Both the UK and the EU are both doing that.
	And then taking it to the next step of shutting down entire websites, taking away their domain names so that you can't find them, just completely disappearing the entire website.
	And this is all being sold so they can prevent children from accessing explicit material without age checks.
	And that is such a hypocritical lie.
	It's not even worth talking about anymore.
	Anyway, we have EU's European Commission, Vice President of the European Commission, said that she is more and more uncomfortable on Twitter because of what she said was the rise in Russian propaganda.
	She's uncomfortable. She feels threatened.
	By people that are pushing back against the NATO narrative.
	And so we've got to have more censorship, she says.
	She said Twitter is likely going to violate the upcoming censorship law, the Digital Services Act, the DSA, once enforcement begins later this year.
	It begins this summer. Because, you know, they've got, we've got to be protected against aggressive propaganda from Russia.
	They only want you to see the NATO aggressive propaganda.
	And this DSA, we've already had this guy, I think his name was Theory Breton or something.
	He was European Commissioner for this.
	He's already made two visits, Elon Musk.
	The first one was right after Musk bought Twitter, and he went to Austin, and there was that cringy video I've played several times, I'm not going to play it again, where Musk is groveling in front of him and goes, now, you know, coming up next year, we're going to have this DSA act, and you're going to have to censor who we tell you to censor.
	You know, same kind of stuff that Marco Rubio did.
	You know, they have their little dog and pony shows, and they bring in people from YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter.
	You'll censor who we tell you to censor, not who the Chinese tell you to censor, right?
	And so that's what they're going to say.
	You will censor the content that questions our narrative about Russia.
	And so that is definitely going to happen.
	That's going to happen this summer, just a couple of months away.
	And to defend this, she said, I would compare this situation to driving on the highway.
	You drive on the highway, you overstep that speed, you get a penalty, and one day you may be deprived of your driver's license.
	Isn't it funny? I've always complained about, you know, the traffic laws and how they have attacked liberty, redefined liberty, you know, made driving a privilege for years when we get the paper maps.
	And we get paper maps that would be...
	For an individual state.
	And always, you would get the one, you know, you get the map for Florida, for Georgia, for Tennessee, or whatever, and it'd have a picture of the governor, and there'd be a statement saying that driving is a privilege, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And it's like, it's not a privilege, it's a right to be able to move around.
	Well, we never defended that, and so now they're going to take our cars completely.
	We never defended the idea that we have a right to travel.
	And so that right's being taken away.
	And we saw during all the lockdowns and the mandates and all the rest of the stuff, people saying, well, you know, we can tell you that you've got to have a seatbelt.
	And so I can tell you that you've got to have a mask on your face and you've got to have a vaccine and all the rest of the stuff.
	And it's like, well, okay, but my seatbelt doesn't have anything to do with you.
	My seatbelt, if it works, is about protecting me.
	So that ought to be my own decision.
	Just like I should be able to make my own health decisions.
	So, I don't need, I welcome your advice about motorcycle helmets and seatbelts.
	I'm not saying that I, you know, I do use a seatbelt.
	If I rode a motorcycle, I would put a helmet on.
	But, it's none of your business.
	Get your laws off of my body, as the abortionists would say.
	But it's not their body, it's the baby's body.
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	you Well, how many carjackings have we had in Washington, D.C. so far this year?
	The answer will absolutely astound you.
	But why should we be surprised?
	That people are stealing cars in that den of thieves we call Washington, D.C. There is no honor among thieves.
	And even as Washington, D.C. is trying to find clever ways to steal your car and your private cars and your transportation, they're now getting, people are jacking their rides as well in Washington, D.C., Carjackings are skyrocketing.
	And a five-year trend that has a local police chief lamenting that crimes are happening at a pace that I have not seen in my 30-plus year career here with the Metropolitan Police Department.
	Here are some of the metrics.
	Since the beginning of the year, there's been a staggering 228 carjackings in Washington, D.C. Okay, we've only had 118 days.
	And they've had, in those 118 days, 228 carjackings.
	So far this year. So that averages out to 1.9 a day, about two of them a day.
	But it's getting worse.
	In the month of April, there were 2.6 per day.
	And in the last week, there were over three per day.
	We had 23 carjackings in just the last week.
	It is a little over three carjackings a day.
	And if we compare this to where they were a few years ago, 2018, 2019, it was ramping up slowly, but it's just exploded now.
	In 2018, there was 148 carjackings the entire year.
	The entire year.
	And in 2019, it went up to 152, essentially flat.
	And that was only 0.4 carjackings per day.
	So, you know, you would have slightly more than one every three days.
	And now they're at the point where they're having three in a day.
	That's how it has gone up exponentially.
	Now, the interesting thing I find about this as well, besides the fact that the car thieves in the federal government are now having their cars stolen from them.
	They're probably pretty nice cars because they make a lot of money, as I pointed out yesterday.
	You got 87%, was it?
	Of the bureaucracies, the average salaries are over $100,000.
	More than twice what the average American median family income is, $54,000.
	So they've probably got some pretty nice cars there.
	And 74% of the carjackings featured a firearm.
	Wait, how could that be?
	They have some of the most stringent gun control laws in the world in Washington, D.C. And they had carjackings with guns?
	You know, there's laws against carjacking.
	And they got laws against guns.
	How could this be happening?
	I just don't know.
	And here's another common thread that you see in Democrat cities.
	Less than 35% of them are prosecuted.
	Only a third of them are even prosecuted.
	Why? Well, because we're talking about Soros district attorneys and we're talking about Democrat-run cities.
	Republicans from the House of Representatives were forced to intervene earlier this year after the Washington, D.C. Council wanted to reduce penalties.
	Ha, ha, ha. They don't want to penalize anybody.
	They want chaos, even in their own hometown.
	They want to reduce penalties for violent crimes such as carjacking and gun possession.
	And so Congress blocked that in 2022 with 33 Democrat senators voting against the bill.
	Oh, okay. So you got two-thirds of Democrat senators voting against the bill.
	So this is a Democrat value, right?
	They don't want to have this stuff happening.
	You know, don't increase the penalties for carjacking.
	Don't, you know, do anything about any of this stuff.
	And so, of course, it is exploding.
	So... The mayor of Washington had a solution, Muriel Bowser.
	She promised that she could give people free steering wheel locks.
	These are carjackings.
	Uh, this is not necessarily stealing a parked car.
	This is coming up in 75% of the cases, uh, you know, a gun is used.
	So you don't need to have a gun if you're not, if the person's not, if you're not in your car, they don't need a gun to steal it from you.
	The carjacking, in my understanding, is not, is different from auto theft.
	She doesn't even understand the difference between that.
	Auto theft would be where they break into your car when nobody's there and steal it.
	Carjacking is when they stick a gun in your face and steal your car.
	You're not going to be driving with your steering wheel lock on.
	So you don't need to have a free steering wheel lock unless she wants people to be able to use them as a club.
	But this is the world of chaos that they want to create for us.
	When you look at the other aspects of 2013, of course, put this in the category of climate change because we're talking about stealing cars, right?
	This is small-time crime that is happening in Washington, D.C. The big type of crime is where you have California saying we're going to ban internal combustion engines, we're going to ban diesel trucks, we're going to ban diesel trains, and on and on.
	But, of course, it also is about what we eat.
	The latest globalist fantasy for big corporations is 3D printed fish.
	Printed fish. I would like to have a printed fish.
	Stakeholder foods. What a perfect name, right?
	Stakeholder capitalism. That's what World Economic Forum is all about.
	Crony capitalism.
	A merger between corporations and government, this fascist economic system.
	Stakeholder Foods is the name of the company.
	Stakeholder Foods has developed 3D printed grouper fish filet.
	They start with stem cells, and then they process them in a biotechnology thing.
	And, you know, the printer comes in because you want it to be shaped like a fish.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha.
	They showcased a cultivated product that flakes, tastes, and melts in your mouth, exactly like an excellent fish should.
	Created by combining fish stem cells with various nutrients, subsequently processed into bio-ink.
	You're eating bio-ink.
	And then into a printer.
	The process of printing only takes a few minutes, and then you can immediately cook and eat it.
	Stakeholder foods are also working to create entire cuts of 3D printed meat, including steaks and other seafood like eel.
	Eel. Of course, that would be the first thing that you would want to have on your product list.
	Eel, right? In 2020, the fast food giant KFC... Partnered with a Russian bioprinting company to produce artificial chicken nuggets.
	Do you remember when we were in China?
	A lot of really strange food, Travis.
	And we had, you know, fish lips with congee and stuff like that.
	We didn't eat that. It was on the menu.
	We were laughing at the menu.
	But they had some really, really crazy stuff that was there.
	So we were trying to find food that we could relate to.
	There's lots of KFCs around.
	Let's go to Kentucky Fried Chicken and just get something that we're used to.
	And we went to Kentucky Fried Chicken and their drumsticks were really tiny.
	Really short. And they were really fat.
	And it was white meat.
	I was like, this is really, I don't know what this is.
	And I said, well, you do realize they don't call it Kentucky Fried Chicken.
	It's just KFC. Maybe it means, C stands for creatures, maybe.
	I don't know. Switzerland has gotten rid of their banking privacy.
	As a matter of fact, they've gotten rid of their sound banking practices as well.
	They've become something of a joke with this big failure of Credit Suisse.
	So the privacy is gone. The banking is gone.
	Now maybe the chocolate is going to be going as well.
	Switzerland wants children to eat less chocolate and more bugs.
	There you go. I guess, though, maybe you can still, they're still going to make cuckoo clocks because the world needs to be reminded that this is the time that everybody has gone cuckoo.
	Even in Switzerland, they're not going to eat chocolate, they're going to eat bugs.
	And of course, we were laughing about this last night.
	I was talking to Karen and she said, yeah, you know, you talk about Tucker Carlson.
	Remember that clip? And I played that clip.
	We had a bug chef come in and feed him some stuff.
	And he's like, oh, you know, Putting it out there to normalize it.
	And then saying, oh, that was really good.
	It's covered with chocolate and all this stuff.
	And Karen says, yeah, you know that the elites, like Tucker, will get the chocolate-covered bugs.
	We'll just get the dust.
	We'll get the bug dust.
	That's what we'll have. And we'll have to figure out how we're going to try to make that palatable if they get their way.
	We're going to make sure they don't.
	Expose-news.com says the J.P. Morgan CEO wants to confiscate private property to force urgent investment in quote-unquote green energy.
	And this is what Catherine Austin Fitz was saying, you know, Solari.com.
	She had talked about this last Friday when I interviewed her.
	She said, you know, you got Jamie Dimon out there talking about using eminent domain to confiscate property from people so he can get his green subsidies.
	That's where we are. It went back to an April the 4th letter to shareholders, their annual letter.
	Diamond or Demon, whichever you prefer.
	I probably should pronounce it as Jamie Demon.
	Jamie Demon stated that governments, quote, governments, businesses, and non-governmental organizations may need to invoke eminent domain to get adequate investments fast enough for grid, solar, wind, and pipeline initiatives.
	Oh, is that how he got first, Republic?
	You know, he gets a sweetheart deal on First Republic because, you know, he's the biggest of the big, too big to fail banks.
	But when you look at this, just understand what is happening.
	All of this emergency, we got no time stuff.
	That's because of their timeline.
	It's the same thing they did to us with warp speed vaccines.
	We've got no time to do it right.
	We've got no time to test this for safety.
	We've got no time to develop these new sources to produce energy.
	So in order to make this go faster, we're just going to steal your land.
	How about that? Yeah, exactly where we're going to head with this if we don't shut it down.
	As a matter of fact, they're now saying we have to accelerate the UN 2030 agenda.
	This is what the World Economic Forum is saying.
	And as a matter of fact, the World Economic Forum and the United Nations Within a day of each other, announced that the progression to their 2030 agenda is not going quickly enough, and we're going to have to accelerate it.
	I guess they really are going to have to go out there and confiscate our property with eminent domain so they can meet their timeline, their artificial timeline, to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
	Global warming, man-made global warming does not exist.
	Global warming does not exist.
	Prove it to me. Show me your data.
	I don't want to see your models.
	I don't want to see your pronouncements.
	I want to see your actual data.
	And let's have a debate about that.
	I don't believe global warming exists.
	Certainly not any man-made global warming.
	I didn't believe the pandemic existed.
	I believe the bioweapon was the vaccine.
	And that's what this is about.
	We've got to speed it up. It's got to go faster now.
	And I've said that. I said, you look at these timelines that they put.
	How many times have we seen them adjust the timeline, compress it?
	They say... Well, you know, by 2050, we're going to have to get rid of this thing.
	And people say, okay, well, 2050, that'll be fine.
	You know, the Hezekiah approach, you know, where Isaiah comes into him and says, you know, you just showed the Babylonians all your defenses.
	You showed them how much money you got in all this.
	They're going to come in. They're going to take everything.
	And he says, is it going to happen in my lifetime?
	No, it's going to happen to your kids.
	Oh, okay. Well, that's fine. Okay, I'm right.
	I'm okay. And so they say 2050.
	People say, ah, 2050, that's too far away to worry about it.
	But they put that in there.
	And now that's on the books.
	We're going to ban this or that in 2050.
	And then all they have to do is just say, well, we've got to do it sooner.
	So now it goes from 2050 to 2045, then to 2035, then to 2030, then 2025.
	Sold to Jamie Demon for 2025.
	That's the way they set it up.
	They started out with a very long timeline, established their, quote-unquote, they usurped their authority to do that.
	But then they say, well, people didn't push back.
	They agreed that this can be banned.
	So now we're just going to quibble over the details.
	We're just going to haggle over the timeline.
	The World Economic Forum said attacks on civil society and civic freedoms threaten to unravel achievements in meeting the UN Sustainable Development Goals.
	They are weakening action to tackle economic inequality, gender imbalances, corruption, and environmental degradation.
	You see those things all come together.
	They're all part of the same thing.
	As a matter of fact, I have a letter here from a listener talking about the cash issue and what people are doing in France.
	And while we're talking about this agenda here, let's talk about that.
	He said, actually, she, this is from Susie, Said, France, here's how French citizens are stopping the cashless push.
	I've been living in France for three months now.
	Their approach is simply fantastic.
	I'd like to share a bit about it.
	Very well-known supermarket here.
	Decided to go cashless.
	So a group of 50 people got together and agreed that they would all do a big shop on the same day, filling their trolleys to the brim and each person getting to the checkout counter, the human checkout, not the machines, and having everything scanned before bringing out the cash.
	Some of this stuff was done during the mask things as well, right?
	Big, massive civil disobedience about that as well.
	The staff was absolutely overrun.
	Their management in a complete tizzy.
	Everybody repeatedly, calmly, and in a very organized and polite fashion, acting as if they knew nothing.
	No edges, no rudeness, no humiliation.
	The supermarket reinstated cash.
	Gas stations. They fill up with fuel, then only having cash to pay.
	Restaurants. Groups of friends going out for dinner, nobody taking phones or credit cards.
	We've only got cash. I'm willing to pay you, but you've got to accept my cash.
	They're doing it in every single area of France, simply refusing to be a part of this cashless society.
	And so that was sent to me, somebody that was doing that online, and a comment from another person said, the reason it works is because it's organized, and it's because it's in large groups.
	One person here and another there doesn't work.
	It really needs to be carefully constructed.
	But it can be.
	It can work. We have to work together collectively for our individual liberty.
	That's the bottom line.
	And that can work, and it can be very successful.
	So, getting back to the UN and the World Economic Forum, trying to compress the timeline for the 2030 agenda.
	The World Economic Forum, or the World Economic Forfeiture People, that brings in all new meaning, doesn't it, with what Jamie Deeman is talking about?
	World economic forfeiture.
	Made this announcement the day before the UN's Secretary General Antonio Guterres said on April 25th that only 12% of their goals have been met.
	He said in his opening statement, The SDG progress report shows that just 12% of the goal targets are on track.
	Progress on 50% is weak and insufficient.
	Worst of all, we have stalled or gone into reverse on more than 30% of the goals.
	Unless we act now, the 2030 Agenda will become an epitaph for a world that might have been.
	We've got to keep that up.
	Again, we work collectively for individual liberty against this cartel.
	The UN and the World Economic Forum.
	And they are on the same page, as I said before.
	In my opinion... The UN is there to give a veneer of consensus and this kind of quasi-democratic ideal that, you know, two wolves and a sheep, or in this particular case, you know, two wolves and a giant flock of sheep that they're going to eat.
	They're there to create that kind of consensus and to spread it.
	The World Economic Forum is really kind of the financing branch, the executive branch of this.
	They bring in the billionaires and the big corporations who are going to be the stakeholders, you know, like stakeholder food.
	And so you come in, you give us money because they don't have the world government and the people want to do world governance, which will be corporate governance.
	They don't have the ability to tax us yet.
	And so they've got to find the money somewhere.
	Well, they are, as H.L. Mencken said, an election is an advanced auction of stolen goods.
	And that's what the World Economic Forum is.
	It is an advanced auction of stolen goods.
	These people come in, give them the money, and they're going to give them the monopolistic franchises to run this stuff.
	And so, the World Economic Forum really kind of gives them the executive branch, whereas the UN is kind of their quasi-legislative branch coming up with these goals, putting them out.
	On current trends, only 30% of countries will achieve the goal on poverty by 2030.
	And you know what that means.
	The goal to make us poor.
	Nations, he said, were already strapped for cash, but now they're flat broke.
	It said, we now face a financing black hole.
	For this cause, the UN proposes SDG, that's the Sustainable Development Goals, SDG stimulus.
	Oh, well, you know, hey, stimulus, isn't that what they were calling all this pandemic stuff?
	Yeah, because the same people designed it.
	So they need a stimulus to help fund these nations to meet their goals faster.
	We're going to need at least a half a trillion dollars a year.
	That's for starters. And who do you think is going to be providing that money?
	Well, of course, the United States will.
	We provide all the money for all this stuff.
	We are the reserve currency.
	We don't presumably have to pay it back until everything goes belly up, and then we will have to pay it back.
	Pay it back with interest and many other things.
	And just as they're stealing cars everywhere, and a good example of how they're handing out these favors to their corporate pals...
	The World Economic Forum is now on a tear to eliminate car parking spaces in cities.
	And this is what you see in every city that is growing rapidly.
	Saw this in Austin. Proving every neighborhood, every housing, apartment complex that they want to have.
	But never enlarging the roads.
	And the traffic just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.
	Yes, the city is growing very fast.
	But the traffic lines are growing even faster because they don't invest in any infrastructure, because they don't want anybody to have a car.
	And so now what they're saying is we don't want people to have car spaces, any place to park.
	The World Economic Forum says that parking spaces slow down climate progress.
	Why? Well, because climate quote-unquote progress is about taking your car, especially.
	Well, it's hard for me to understand, says this person, why...
	Convenient parking holds back urban mobility.
	That's what they say. It holds back urban mobility.
	The World Economic Forum thinks otherwise.
	In many cities, on-street parking, they said, is either underpriced or there is an overabundance of it.
	Spaces optimized for cars reduce the ability for cities to accommodate other types of transit.
	You know, like bike sharing or scooter sharing.
	And this is being put out...
	By an individual who is the global head of cities and transportation policy for Uber.
	And this person, who is the Uber executive, is also a member of the World Economic Forum.
	And you know what?
	If nobody can have cars, they're going to be...
	Renting them by the ride from Uber.
	That has always been the plan to do this.
	But as I point out, a lot of people can't ride scooters.
	What about children? What about pregnant women?
	What about elderly people?
	Can't ride these scooters.
	Well, they want to get away with, do away with all of that stuff, and they think that you should just drive public transportation.
	As a matter of fact, one person said, well, I lived under a system like that in Moscow.
	I lived in Moscow for 23 years before immigrating to the U.S. in 1994.
	I used public transportation.
	I walked to stores and school instead of driving because I had no other choice.
	This person says, I recently realized that the 15-minute city was what I experienced in communist Russia.
	Mm-hmm. As a matter of fact, I remember, and I've told this story before, a city council member in Raleigh came back, and I was at the city council meeting, and she said, I just got back from Russia.
	And she said, for a nickel, I could go anywhere in the city on the subway.
	And I said, it cost those people everything.
	It cost them all their freedom, economic and otherwise, for that nickel ride.
	And to put that kind of stuff in a, you know, suburban type of city like Raleigh, are you crazy?
	Yes, they are crazy.
	They are megalomaniacs.
	And that's exactly what they would like to do.
	I mean, she was full on, and this was before the Soviet Union fell even.
	You know, but, you know, latest thing that they want to ban now, they're on a tear about gas leaf blowers and lawn mowers.
	Yesterday it was natural gas and heaters and stoves, and we don't stop them with that.
	First they came for the heaters, then they came for the stoves, then they came for the lawnmowers, then they came for the leaf blowers.
	I did nothing because I was supposed to own nothing and go nowhere.
	You need to pay attention to Pastor Martin E. Mueller's story.
	That's the way they do it. They do it with chaos, they do it from the inside, and they do it iteratively.
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	you you By the way, before we get back into the news, I've got news about Pastor Artur Pulaski.
	He's been found guilty. I'll tell you what he's been found guilty of.
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	A friend working in D.C., he said, was going to bring his Corvette to commute until the insurance company told him the average span of a parking until theft for a Corvette in D.C. was three hours.
	It's absolutely amazing.
	Last time we went to Washington, D.C., we went up there to see a museum.
	And we circled and circled and circled and never could find a parking space.
	Maybe that's what saved us from getting our car stolen.
	I got so frustrated.
	I said, that's it. You know, we had driven like five hours to get there from North Carolina.
	I said, that's it. Let's go. I'm not coming back to this place ever again if I can avoid it.
	But I did have to go back for work anyway.
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	I appreciate that. He says, just a quick reminder, the critical race theory is nonsense, that its advocates do not speak for us black people.
	It's just another tool to divide and conquer.
	God bless, he says, from Audi.
	Yeah, you're exactly right.
	That is the thing. It is the thing that's going to unite us.
	And this is why I talked about that yesterday.
	I said, you know, here we got these people.
	We have Christians and they want to embrace CRT or they want to embrace LGBT because, you know, we want to meet people where they are.
	We don't want to be judgmental about what they're doing.
	It's like, well, you know, the Bible does give us some definitions of what gender and sex and that they're the same thing and, you know, create us male and female and these other things.
	But when it comes to the race issues, you know, the Christians have the answer there as well.
	Again, we're all descended.
	From Adam and Eve. We're all descended from Noah and his family.
	All nations are of one blood, but there are different nations.
	There are different tongues. There's different tribes.
	And so we can understand that, and yet we're all human beings.
	We're all part of the same race.
	I like the way Ken Ham put it.
	He said, there's only one human race, the differences and the directions that we're racing.
	Ha, ha, ha. Some of us are racing to God.
	Some of us are racing from God.
	And that's what we need to do.
	But there's no division about male or female or different ethnic groups, different skin colors in Christ.
	And that's the thing that unites us.
	And that's what the guy who said, well, you know, we got to have this Trump agenda and we got to realize in order for us to take back the culture, we're going to have to do it by force.
	And it's like, that is absolutely the wrong way to do it.
	Absolutely not going to work. That's not going to succeed from a pragmatic standpoint.
	It's not going to succeed from anything.
	Again, all these things come from the inside out.
	And if you've got people that have been taught to hate each other because of the color of their skin, you've got to address that issue first.
	Otherwise, it's just going to be a back-and-forth seesaw.
	And it's going to turn into a civil war, into a race war.
	And that's exactly what the Marxists want to do.
	We don't want to play into their hands.
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	I appreciate that. Let's talk about what's happening to Artur Pulaski.
	He's been found guilty of violating the Alberta Critical Infrastructure Defense Act.
	This is something that was enacted...
	In the early part of 2020, they said when they put it in, and maybe this really was their intention, That it was to fight eco-terrorists who were shutting down pipelines and railroads and things like that.
	Maybe that's why they put it in.
	Except they never used it against any eco-terrorists.
	Instead, the only person they've used this against, the only person that's even been charged, now found guilty, is Pastor Artur Pulaski.
	I interviewed him a couple of times.
	First time I interviewed him, I kept him over for a half hour.
	Because his personal story was so compelling.
	His personal story about growing up in communist Poland, what it was like there, why he values freedom, and his Christian testimony of his conversion and other things like that.
	I mean, the guy has got a backbone of steel, and it was great to talk to him.
	He has been found guilty of this Critical Infrastructure Defense Act because of a speech that he gave.
	And I've played parts of that speech when it happened.
	And because of that, they arrested him on the highway, made a show of all of that stuff.
	But he didn't block any infrastructure.
	He wasn't a terrorist. He wasn't an eco-terrorist.
	Instead, what they're showing you is just how important ideas are.
	He galvanized these people from the inside.
	And as he said in his personal testimony, he's got a history of being a street preacher and helping the homeless, and they used to write articles praising him for what he was doing with the homeless there in Canada.
	And then one day, you know, he'd just go through the Bible preaching.
	So one day he got to a section, and there's several of them, I don't know which one it was, that talks about sexual immorality.
	The basis of gender and sex and that type of thing.
	He's just talking about what the Bible had to say.
	Some guy comes up to him afterwards and said, I hate what you had to say.
	We're going to get you. And he said, after that, problems with the police started and never stopped again.
	And so he's had a lot of fights for a very long time.
	And he became an outspoken opponent to the lockdown.
	You remember when they tried to shut down this church?
	He says, out! Nazis, out!
	I know who you are. I know.
	I've lived under people like you.
	Once you have experienced totalitarianism, you can smell it a mile away.
	That's why it's important to listen to the writings of people like Alexander Solzhenitsyn and many others who have lived under it so that you understand what it's like.
	We've got a lot of people who have immigrated to the U.S. who tell us that's where we're headed.
	So anyway, a 17-minute sermon.
	They didn't call any witnesses or anything.
	There was no jury.
	It was a judge. And it was based strictly on the content of what he said in that 17-minute speech.
	So they've now found him guilty, and it looks like it's going to be appealed, of course, because he is a fighter.
	The new premier, and this is under the conservative premier, quote-unquote conservative, Jason Kinney, who is locking everybody down.
	Danielle Smith, who is the new premier, one of the things she said to get elected, she promised to throw out such cases.
	Nevertheless, the media and her government...
	We're still pushing for these convictions.
	She hasn't followed through on that.
	I find this to be very interesting in an open letter to the UK government, Rishi Sunak.
	This is an open letter from the chairman of the UK Council for Psychotherapy.
	And he has called for a ceasefire.
	To the use of all behavioral science techniques against the population.
	This is coming from the UK site expose-news.com.
	I said for the longest time, haven't I, that the only science that we've seen during the pandemic was behavioral science.
	Behavioral science.
	It is what B.F. Skinner described in Beyond Freedom and Dignity, and that's what they did to us.
	What they did to us was Beyond Freedom and Dignity.
	It was weaponized behavioral science.
	And this guy, who is chairman of the board for the UK Council for Psychotherapy, Dr.
	Christian Buckland, wrote an open letter.
	He condemned the use and the continued use of He said these psychological techniques are being used to increase fear, shame, and guilt.
	Everything that they do, whether you're talking about, you know, CRT or LGBT or the pandemic, all of that is about fear, shame, and guilt.
	All of it. When are we going to learn about how these techniques operate?
	And they use fear, shame, and guilt to take away your freedom and liberty, and your dignity, rather.
	And so he said, this has materially undermined, if not removed, the UK's population's ability to give valid, informed consent to taking the COVID-19 so-called vaccine.
	I say so-called.
	He didn't say it that way. They said, if you're going to run a campaign of fear, shame, and guilt, if you're going to use psychological techniques, then you really don't have informed consent from people.
	That's right. It's coerced.
	He said, quote, I propose that there be an immediate cessation of the use of all behavioral science techniques designed to elicit feelings of fear, shame and guilt used by the government pending an urgent, open and independent inquiry.
	And he sent it to the Prime Minister.
	He said, I have a professional obligation to write to you in an attempt to protect the public from any further harm caused by the unethical application of psychological research and practice.
	It is now clear that in 2020, the UK government deliberately chose to artificially inflate the level of fear within the UK population by exaggerating the risk factors of COVID-19 and concomitantly downplaying protective factors.
	We also witnessed the government's promotion of social disapproval and guilt messaging.
	You know, the kind of stuff like, school your freedom, right?
	From Schwarzenegger.
	These techniques were embedded into a multi-channel, coordinated public health campaign designed to change the public's behavior without their knowledge.
	In August of 2020, I talked about the Yale report that had been put on the National Institute of Health, right?
	And how they had weaponized all of these different factors.
	They had about a dozen of these things about how they're going to guilt trip you, make you afraid.
	You know, how would you feel...
	If you passed on this to somebody and they got sick and died, you would feel so guilty, wouldn't you?
	Oh, you should feel guilty.
	And you should feel guilty if you don't do this to love your neighbor and so forth.
	And if you get the vaccine, of course, you won't be able to pass it on in all of these different lies.
	But they were all based on shame, fear, and guilt.
	The government also proactively suppressed, censored, and ostracized Any healthcare professional or scientist who suggested an alternative response.
	That was a big red flag, wasn't it?
	I mean, if this is a global emergency like we've never had before, wouldn't you try everything?
	No. We got one thing.
	You'll wait for it.
	We'll do it without testing.
	The government document titled Options for Increasing Adherence to Social Distancing Measures was written for the government by the Scientific Pandemic Insights Group on Behaviors.
	Behaviors. And it was also a subgroup of the SAGE group.
	They call them SAGE. It's a scientific advisory group for emergencies.
	He said, a passage within this document says, a substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened.
	And so it makes a lot of recommendations.
	Like we have to use coercion.
	We have to use social disapproval.
	We have to have the perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent.
	And we need to do this with hard-hitting emotional messaging.
	Again, same thing we did here with Yale.
	And they actively worked to enroll clergy in that.
	Or they would say, you know, in the black community, there's a lot of distrust of this new medicine and everything because of the way they've been abused in the past with Tuskegee.
	So let's get black leaders, let's get black pastors to gaslight these people.
	But here's the amazing thing.
	I've talked about this before. Matt Hancock, this guy who was fired, he was running all of this scam.
	Not a doctor, a politician.
	But he was the health minister.
	And then, you know, he had the lockdown and then it came out that he was having...
	Shall we say assignations?
	With a married woman violating the lockdown and quarantine rules.
	And that was humiliating enough and got him thrown out.
	But then we found all of these WhatsApp messages.
	I forget how that was leaked.
	And we saw how he was laughing and mocking people as they were locking them down, making their life impossible to live.
	And here is an example of how they used fear and guilt.
	Hancock says, and this is a group thing, he's got Hancock, somebody named Poole, somebody named Case.
	So Hancock says, we frighten the pants off of everybody with a new strain.
	See? That's what it was about.
	Oh, we got a new strain. We got a new variant.
	It's a new campaign of fear.
	We frighten the pants off of everybody with a new strain, but the complications with that, Brexit is taking the top line.
	We want that to be the lead story.
	And so Poole says, yep, that's what will get proper behavior change.
	Hancock says, well, when do we deploy the new variant?
	Deploy the variant!
	It was always just propaganda and behavioral psychology.
	Deploy the variant!
	No, I'll tell these people, they didn't design it in the lab.
	They designed it.
	In the media, that's where they designed this stuff.
	That's, you know, everybody, oh, it's a bioweapon.
	No, the bioweapon is the vaccine.
	And the variants are in the propaganda.
	Then Case says, we need to ramp up the messaging.
	The fear slash guilt factor is vital.
	Yes, that's what it was always about.
	Fear, shame, and guilt.
	And as we see all of this, We now have the U.S. Surgeon General who is Vivek Murthy.
	Remember that guy? Okay.
	Towing the line on all this stuff.
	Now he is saying that loneliness...
	Creates a risk that is as deadly as smoking a dozen cigarettes a day.
	The guy who locked us down, isolated us.
	That was part of the weaponized psychological warfare against us.
	All of that. Alright, we've got our guest ready.
	We're going to take a break.
	I'm very excited to hear this story.
	And it is a real cautionary tale.
	Of what happens when we no longer value human life and we no longer value liberty.
	You know, Jefferson said, the God that gave us life gave us liberty at the same time.
	The hand of force can destroy both of them, but you cannot disjoin them.
	You can't have life without liberty or liberty without life, obviously.
	So we're going to take a break and we'll be right back with our guest.
	Thank you.
	Decoding the mainstream propaganda.
	It's the David Knight Show.
	You're listening to the David Knight Show.
	Thank you.
	Welcome back.
	On the line with us, we have Mitchell Nicholas Gerber.
	The website is stoporganharvesting.org, and he has worked on this for 22 years.
	He says he's right now, he's about five hours away from the Chinese border, risking his life.
	Because you know what is happening.
	If they're going to take prisoners and remove their organs while they're alive, and of course we have known that and heard that for the longest time as well.
	We know that happens with babies as well, as I said earlier in the program.
	So if you are exposing this stuff, you absolutely are risking your life.
	It is a real honor to have you on.
	Mitchell, thank you for joining us.
	Thank you, David. The pleasure and honor is all mine.
	Well, thank you. You said you've been working.
	This is your life's work. You've been working on it for decades.
	How did you get involved in this?
	You know, Dave, to fail to support the good and to fail to expose the evil in this world is unacceptable.
	What is a man who cannot make the world a better place?
	So when I became an American citizen many years ago, I was studying at the University of Georgia.
	I was about to intern at a very prestigious investment firm and I was very stressed out.
	I was very anxious.
	I was running a couple of student organizations and I was just very stressed out and I visited a human rights fair, a culture fair in Athens, Georgia, and I was very intrigued by the ancient Chinese way of medicine and how they conduct themselves in terms of relieving stress and anxiety and to get the body and the mind to a very healthier way of life.
	And I came across this ancient spiritual practice, very similar to Tai Chi, yoga, martial arts.
	I was a very big Bruce Lee fan when I was a child growing up with the martial art movies.
	But this was intriguing to me.
	I was very attracted to these exercises that I learned, I practiced in a park called Falun Gong or Falun Duffin.
	I brought a couple of clips you can play just to introduce to your audience what this is all about.
	And before we do...
	I learned these five exercises, and I am a God-faring man.
	I do believe in God.
	I come from a Judeo-Christian family, so I don't want anything that's cultish or secular or anything that's forceful.
	So I was a little bit skeptical and hesitant, and I heard about yoga at the time.
	I was about 21 at the time, David.
	And I was very intrigued by these exercises, Falun Gong, ancient Chinese meditation.
	What is this? So One of the Chinese guys that was there took me to the park with a couple of other students at the university and we started to learn these exercises and immediately I thought, wow, this is terrific.
	My whole body started to feel unblocked.
	I had a bit of a pain in my back, in my shoulder because I used to work out a lot.
	And immediately I felt relieved.
	It was incredible, David.
	I'm not a superstitious man, but...
	All these, the area surrounding my shoulder was just popping open and my whole body felt warm.
	I said, well, this is pretty profound.
	After a couple of minutes of practicing, I've never experienced this.
	I've been to chiropractors, I've been to foot therapy, massages, but nothing as powerful as Rejuvenating as this or opening as this.
	So I looked more into it. I went back to the booth.
	They had a little booth at the fair or festival and I realized that this became the largest spiritual movement in China.
	Following Gong, also known as following Dafa.
	And however, these people were brutally persecuted.
	And after a momentary comfort, I turned to the rise and I was quite cringed out by the pictures I was seeing of all these people, from professors, students, military people, Politicians,
	celebrities, that by practicing this in China, you were being tortured, brutally persecuted, and sent to labor camps for an outrageous amount of time, just for upholding your spiritual beliefs and practicing these exercises, namely following God.
	So I was very intrigued, and this is what took me on my journey for 21 years, exposing the CCP's brutal persecution and then forced organ harvesting, which we can get into a little later in the interview.
	I don't know anything about Falun Gong.
	I mean, we'll play the clip that you sent.
	But, you know, you're talking about it as a spiritual aspect.
	And I know that there's been this discussion in Christian circles about yoga, for example.
	A lot of people look at that and say, well, it's just exercise aspects.
	But other people say, no, it's got a lot of significant religious and spiritual aspects to it as well.
	And you talk about that.
	I know that the Chinese government doesn't like Falun Gong.
	I've been seeing that for the longest time.
	And, of course, you know, they've attacked the Uyghurs, the Muslims in other areas.
	There's been tremendous persecution against Christians as well.
	And I think they do all of these different things.
	They get political prisoners, whether you're a political prisoner or whether you're a religious prisoner of, you know, Christian or Muslim or Falun Gong.
	They will come after you and, you know, imprison you and confiscate your organs, you know, kill you, take the organs out while you're living.
	So there's been a lot of stories about that for the longest time.
	And I do want to get into the evidence that you have for this.
	And there is a doctor that's also working with you.
	I think he is testifying before Congress today.
	Is that correct?
	Dr. Elbertotti, yes, he was the surgeon who came with me.
	I brought a coalition to the British Parliament in 2018.
	He's very busy. He's actually writing a book and testifying in the British Parliament about the Wigel genocide.
	And I brought to a child traffic report in the British Parliament, David, Mm-hmm.
	you would have really inspired your listeners with the evidence.
	He tells about the Chilling story about how he was forced by the CCP to do a live organ harvesting on a Falun Gong practitioner.
	The man was shot and was brought to him, just bleeding out, and the CCP under the PLA, the military directive, was forced to take out the organs of the man.
	And he did, and he was filled with grief.
	He was an upcoming surgeon, and he fleed to China, which is from China to the UK. So yes, there's 52 pieces of evidence.
	We've been doing this since 2006, when the organ harvesting allegations surfaced, and there are toxic allegations that have been confirmed, and we can get into that, absolutely.
	Sure, yeah, let's talk about that.
	You sent some clips.
	Did you want to play the following gong story clip that you sent?
	Absolutely. That was an award-winning documentary by Scoop Films, two Emmy Award producers, and I think it will bring a great context to what we're talking about to your viewers.
	Okay, so let's take a look since most of us now know who the following gong is.
	We'll take a look at this. Hang on, folks.
	We'll be right back. This is a congressional resolution, talking about a campaign of persecution of the following gong.
	It starts with that. In the late 90s, Chinese government surveys said up to 70 million people were practicing Falun Gong daily.
	Health bills were decreasing, crime rates were falling, and morality was rising.
	So why were these people targeted for elimination and organ harvesting?
	Mona Yeo was one of the millions meditating in parks every day.
	There was a park across the street from my house.
	Because the first exercise site couldn't hold so many people anymore, it divided into the second, the third, the fourth.
	So at every street corner and in every park, you could see people practicing Falun Gong.
	There was a different kind in society.
	There was many policemen and military.
	It was just a fundamental part of society at that time, and everybody knew somebody who practiced.
	Falun Gong is a traditional practice of self-cultivation, a practice of slow-moving exercises, meditation, and studying of the principles of truthless compassion and tolerance and trying to adopt those into your life.
	While morning exercises had always been popular in China, Falun Gong brought more than just health benefits.
	For thousands of years, the Chinese people have believed in Buddhas and Daos and becoming an immortal.
	Falun Gong really dared to talk about these things, and immediately people took it to heart.
	Oh, the true ancient good things of China have come back.
	However, after 50 years of political campaigns to destroy traditional beliefs, any revival of spirituality was seen as a threat to communist rule.
	Since I was 11, I experienced all of the Chinese Communist Party's campaigns.
	Group after group of good people were targeted.
	There was no faith, no truth.
	Falun Gong stood in stark contrast with communist ideology.
	So it would be very hard for it to be tolerated by the CCP. With more practitioners than members in the Communist Party, the Party Chief, Jiang Zemin, saw it as a threat to his power and overruled the government's support of Falun Gong.
	Jiang Zemin issued an order to set up a special office called 610 Office in charge of the nationwide campaign of persecution.
	Known as China's Gestapo, the 610 Agency was above the law and could use any and all means necessary to achieve its sole mission to eliminate Falun Gong.
	The nationwide campaign began July 1999.
	Well, that's interesting. And this fits in a pattern that we've always seen from Marxist dictators, authoritarian dictators, but even with non-Marxist dictators.
	They always see religion as either an ally to control the people or as a competitor to them.
	I always like to think of it as these dictators believe that they're God.
	And they don't want any competition.
	And that, you know, so as a religious aspect, I guess from that documentary, they were saying they're bringing in aspects of Buddhism and other things.
	They've been very active to suppress the Buddhists in Tibet.
	They've been active to suppress the Muslims in Tibet.
	The Uyghur ethnic group and, of course, Christians and Falun Gong.
	Anybody that has any kind of religion that might be competition to their governmental religion, and that's the key thing, Marxism is a religion, and these people think that they're God.
	Anything like that, they have to eradicate it, but it's been amazing how brutal that has been, hasn't it?
	Absolutely, David. And adding to your point, we have to understand what the CCP is.
	It is an imposterous cult.
	We call it the Red Devil that was backed by very evil globalist entities in that time under Mao Zedong.
	And ever since Mao Zedong and the Great Cultural Revolution, At least 100 million innocent Chinese have been killed.
	Under the one-child policy that was actually blueprinted by Planned Parenthood, and I think it's very important before we end tonight to show how it relates to the American Republic that is now under siege and attack by the CCP. The same kind of cultural Marxism,
	radical leftism, woke ideology that started in China At the turn of the century after World War II when China was completely open to a cult infiltrating into its 5,000 years of culture, decimating it intentionally, and installing an anti-God, anti-Christ, atheist cult that conquered in order to kill.
	And there's a great documentary and publication from the Epoch Times, a stellar newspaper out of New York City, That's published in, I believe, 2008 or 2009.
	The Communist Spectre is Ruling Our World.
	And you can download, you can read it, and you can listen to it.
	Read it, watch it, or listen to it.
	Which is very interesting because, and I just want to read this to you if I may.
	America is the light of the free world and is tasked with the divinely given role of policying the globe.
	U.S. military intervention proved instrumental in determining the outcomes of both world wars.
	During the Cold War facing the menace of nuclear holocaust, the United States successfully contained the Soviet bloc until the disintegration of the Soviets and the Eastern European communist regime.
	And the success of the American experiment with liberty and enlightened governance has spared the world from mass destruction and domination by tyrannical regimes.
	The American founding fathers applied their knowledge of Western religious and philosophical traditions to write the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States.
	And these documents recognize as self-evidence the rights bestowed upon man by the Creator, by God Himself, starting with the freedoms of belief and speech, and established the separation of powers to guarantee the republican system of government.
	So the freedom of the West runs directly counter to the goal of communism.
	While masking itself with beautiful visions of a collective, egalitarian society, communism aims to enslave and destroy humanity.
	And David, the Communist Party, it goes on to say, did not directly take power in Western countries, but the specter aimed to conquer the West through subversion.
	And that is what we're seeing, especially on the radical left, the deception, the manipulation, the twisting of values.
	And this is where I understand why, after all these years exposing the Chinese Communist Party, how much of a threat it is to our own republic.
	It's not a democracy. Okay, it's not socialism, it's a republic.
	And for the republic, by the republic, for the people, by the people.
	And that is why the CCP, not only harvesting alive, fallen, gone, who were the first people, the heroes of China, I believe, from my investigative research, warned the American Republic about the evil of communism and the CCP, which is now in the backyards of all Americans as well.
	Yeah, that's absolutely true. When we have, we look at, you talk about a pattern of deception, and of course this was a deliberate thing running through Hollywood, running through university institutions.
	The Marxists love to take over universities.
	That's always been a fertile ground for them in educational institutions.
	But the Frankfurt School that they put in to deliberately push the communist values, and now we see it happening on social media in a weaponized way.
	But let's talk about The organ harvesting aspect of it, some of the evidence that you've laid out here that you guys have discovered as you're investigating this.
	Tell us what is the evidence that you've seen besides testimony from people.
	There's other interesting circumstantial evidence, I guess we could say, of this going on in a massive way.
	Tell us a little bit about that. Absolutely.
	First of all, why Falun Gong was persecuted in China?
	It grew to become the largest spiritual movement, David, in all of communist China between 1992 and 1998.
	The massive popularity and rapid growth outnumbered the Chinese Communist Party's membership by 30 million people.
	I'm living in a communist country.
	And an independent spiritual movement or just free-value mind is not allowed in a communist country.
	And they will completely destroy it and crack down on it.
	Also Falun Gong was completely independent from the Chinese Communist Party's control.
	The principles are also, just like Christianity, are incompatible with a very atheist, imposterous cult that believes in destruction, Murder, nepotism, inciting hatred, and decimation of the traditional values, and to disconnecting the spirit of the individual to godly grace.
	And the fourth reason why Falun Gong was outlawed is because of the leader, the evil head of the CCP, which were the two presidents prior to Xi, Jiang Zemin, and not many people know about Jiang Zemin, he just passed away about maybe two months ago.
	He unleashed a war against Falun Gong because it became so powerful and popular among the Chinese people.
	Millions of dollars of healthcare costs were being reduced.
	Illnesses and deaths were We're being reduced in terms of the medical communities.
	It was labelled as the crime-fighting practice of the Chinese people.
	But because of a jealous and hateful regime's sinister control mechanism over innocent people, they labelled it as a cult, a CIA-backed cult.
	Who are terrorists, who want to destroy people, who try and blow up subway stations.
	This was the propaganda machine of the CCP to demonize Falun Gong and label them as a cult in order to turn public opinion against them, round them up and send them to over 250 concentration camps, David, called the Laogar system.
	And... Unbeknownst to me, from 2001 to 2005, we didn't realize that the forced organ harvesting was going on.
	Until in 2006, when David Kilboar and David Mattis, two attorneys, one was a crime prosecutor of the Canadian Parliament, David Kilboar, who unfortunately passed away, and David Mattis, who is a Winnipeg lawyer in human rights and genocide law, came out and exposed the crimes of Against the CCP in 18 hard-hitting points.
	And so before I go into that, may I share the second clip with the audience, just to go into the evidence as you would like.
	Is that the one world needs to know?
	Is that it?
	I believe it's the world needs to know, yes.
	I believe that's that one.
	Worst crimes in history began taking place in hospitals throughout the country as organ transplants suddenly began to skyrocket.
	We've been asked to investigate allegations that there has been harvesting of organs of Falun Gong in China.
	Our bottom-line conclusion after considering everything as best we could was that the allegations are true.
	I began conducting comprehensive interviews with medical professionals, Chinese law enforcement personnel, and over 50 refugees from the Laogai system.
	But I estimate that 65,000 Falun Gong were murdered for their organs from 2000 to 2008.
	Essentially what organ harvesting means is they're taking Falun Gong practitioners, literally like cattle, holding them in prison camps, testing their blood and other vital organs, and when someone comes into the country that needs a heart, a liver, a kidney, they find a match, they take the Falun Gong practitioner, extract their organs, of course killing them in the process.
	People who are expecting this to sort of just be solved naturally by all we have to do is sit back and they'll fix it.
	This is wrong. The West has to take a role.
	And the one role the West can do is say, these are our values.
	We cannot go beyond this.
	There are certain lines we can't cross.
	This is a red line. That's an absolute red line.
	Enver Toti, the surgeon turned bus driver, says it's been 20 years since he removed the organs from that live prisoner.
	It remains a mystery why so few people have ever heard about the thing he says he cannot forget.
	This is my experience.
	This is a real true story.
	If you keep silence, this tragedy will continue.
	People, they just don't want to touch this evil.
	Because if you touch this evil, maybe at the end of the day, you may not be able to tackle the consequences.
	That is my guess.
	So yeah, David, I was going to say that those are the gentlemen, those are the main investigators.
	Ethan Gutman, who is an investigative journalist from America, he wrote a ten-year investigation called The Slaughter, his book, and he is now actually going around the world with Dr.
	Enbototti, David Matts, and others, and exposing the crimes.
	And I just wanted to share with you, there is a There are over 290 recorded audio testimonies and over 763 pieces of data of evidence that show the participation of some senior CCP officials, 45 presidents, directors and doctors from over 40 organ transplant hospitals in organ harvesting from fallen lung practitioners.
	We also have the, which is kind of interesting, I wish I could show this on screen with you, But these are the values from the China International Transplantation Network Assistance Center, and it was founded in the Transplantation Institute at the first affiliated hospital of China Medical University.
	It's been taken down, but some of the prices, for example, how much is your body worth?
	For a kidney, the profit for one kidney is $62,000.
	Liver is between $98,000 and $130,000.
	And this is on demand, David.
	This is not just kind of, you know, a kidney in the bathtub story.
	This is on demand. You have a large, millions and millions of Falun Gong practitioners locked up in these concentration camps.
	So, for example, I'm an American buyer.
	Or, you know, I can be an American buyer.
	I can be from Pakistan, from Saudi Arabia, anywhere.
	And it's also including Big Pharma, the medical associations, etc., etc.
	And I would call and I would say, listen, I heard Falun Gong organs are the freshest and the most healthiest.
	I need something. And the doctor will say, no problem.
	Come to China. So I'll fly to China, to Shanghai.
	They'll forcefully blood test you.
	Forcefully blood test you.
	And they'll find a match.
	And they'll take the poor victim out of the camp.
	Fly him. Do the organ harvesting while alive.
	I'll give a little bit of potassium and and and and a sentence to sedate it's very little to sedate the the victim the following on practitioner extract the organs while alive because the more fresh organs the better
	Yes. The boiler rooms, the ovens of the hospitals, and then fly the organs out on ice to the buyer, and they will do the surgery and get a red envelope of cash.
	And like I said, kidneys and pancreas is $150.
	Our heart is between $130,000 to $160,000 on demand.
	So I was almost imagining it's a grotesque restaurant where you take a lobster out of the tank and cut it up right there and then.
	It's that sick. It's that evil.
	It is amazing. Yeah, that's...
	We've talked many times in this program about the slippery slope that we have in terms of redefinition of death, you know, for an organ donor here in the United States.
	And, you know, we're going to redefine what we say somebody is brain dead or something.
	I want to change that definition so we can get the organs.
	And so people are aware of the...
	The motivation to bend the rules, to fudge the stuff here, but this is just ruthless mercenary stuff of the sort that we saw with Fauci and the NIH getting the baby parts for their humanized mice experiments and things like that, putting out the orders for Planned Parenthood.
	But this is ultimately where we go if we have a corrupt authoritarian regime that doesn't value human life and also sees itself in competition with every religion that is there.
	Let me ask you before we get any further into the evidence here, though.
	One of the things I was thinking about in terms of Falun Gong was a situation in Turkey.
	Was there some well-known leader that perhaps the Chinese officials felt concerned about?
	I know that they have focused on like the Dalai Lama, for example.
	And in Turkey, you had both Erdogan and another Islamic religious figure, Fatala Gulen, who, Both of them were working together for a while to kind of bring back a fundamentalist Islam in Turkey.
	And then Erdogan saw Fatala Gulen as competition because his side of the movement started growing and he wound up being removed by the CIA to the U.S.
	But, you know, there's always this type of thing where a lot of dictators will embrace a religious leader until they see that they are competition for them.
	We just had in Ukraine, for example, they created a new version of the Eastern Orthodox Church to ally it with the Ukrainians instead of with the Russians.
	And so there's always been this temptation to combine religion with politics and or to see any religion.
	Typically, the Marxists see any religion as competition to them.
	Was there anybody that was.
	Was that a factor in them coming after Falun Gong?
	Was there some person who was becoming famous in that?
	Or was it just a kind of a large movement?
	Was that what it was? Mostly because it was the largest movement.
	But the founder, Mr.
	Lee Hong Tzu, is an honorary teacher who was nominated for five times a Nobel Peace Prize and also incredible awards around the world.
	He introduced the practice, he was a humble teacher in China, introduced this type of Qigong spiritual movement, type of Tai Chi movement, mind and body practice named Falun Gong, also known as Falun Dafa.
	And he grew to the people.
	He immigrated to, I believe, America in around 1994, 1995, I believe, I'm not really sure, or 1996 could possibly be.
	But he started this movement, and it grew to become the largest spiritual movement in China, David, and that's the reason why.
	The number of people outnumbering the number of Chinese people in the CCP, CCP officials, was about 30 million people.
	I mean, you saw hundreds, tens of millions of, hundreds of thousands, tens of millions of Chinese people from all walks of life, from the highest ranking Politburo members of the Chinese Communist Party, the military party, More than half of upper class society were practicing Falun Gong at the time, which really threatened the control mechanism of the Kabbalist type of leadership, which was Jiang Zemin and his cabinet, the two presidents prior.
	But not many people know about Jiang Zemin, a very ruthless, evil dictator of China.
	That's the reason why he outleashed, actually, war on Falun Gong.
	And he put a bounty on Mr.
	Li's head of over $400 million.
	But I'm also very disappointed on the Uyghur side as well, in the Muslim world, because they've been doing a lot of business with the CCP. And when you do a lot of business with the CCP, the first thing the CCP will say, see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil publicly.
	You can say it in your boardrooms all day long.
	But if you do, the contract between a multi-billion dollar deal in terms of steel or slave labour or any kind of supply in China will depend on whether you keep your mouth shut of the violations of the CCP. So I'm very concerned,
	yes, when people have turned their backs, God-fearing people, supposedly, turn their backs on the genocide and the murder and deny that the Uyghur Muslims are being persecuted and even go so far as to collude with the CCP in calling and demonizing Uyghur Muslims terrorists or house Christians terrorists or Tibetans terrorists, even Falun Gong particularly, the largest victims of the organ harvesting.
	It just kind of makes you wonder where their hearts and souls are and if you even can call them godly.
	Well, it's the money. And, of course, part of the China price, the cheap prices of goods that we get here, has always been slave labor.
	It's always been based on slave labor, as well as currency manipulation and intellectual property theft, all these different things.
	I mean, it is a criminal regime.
	They killed, as you pointed out, probably 100 million of their own people in the Great Leap Forward, starving them to death.
	But let's talk a little bit, and I'll say this, too.
	You know, we talk about the Muslims.
	You see that happening in the Christian side of it.
	They said, we'll let you set up the church of the three-person self, but we will tell you that you've got to cut certain things out of the Bible.
	You can't say this, you can't say that.
	So you had a group of people who decided that they would cooperate with this authoritarian government that would set parameters about what they could believe and say.
	And we saw within the last few years now, those churches that were allowed to exist, then you had the underground church that would not compromise, the house churches.
	But this church of the three-person self that was recognized, just in the last few years, they've been tearing down their church buildings and coming after them in one way or the other.
	You cannot appease these tyrants.
	And so, you know, you cannot work with them.
	You cannot appease them at all.
	Let's talk a little bit, though, about what is really happening with some of your evidence about...
	And the fact that this is being done to criminals, that is, other than the testimony, you talk about the waiting times.
	Tell us a little bit about the waiting times in the U.S. versus the waiting times in China, for example, to get organ transplants.
	Absolutely. And that was what, well, very well said about what you said about, I'm making a differentiation about the CCP churches and the underground churches.
	It's a totally different, that's why people are deceived.
	The CCP and these kind of tyrannical governments and regimes, I won't even call them a government, they're an impostuous cult that infiltrated and took over the governments, just like we've had traitors in our republic.
	They have, you know, violated the Constitution in so many ways.
	They created a deception and an illusion that China is free, there's no organ harvesting, we're actually lifting up all the millions and hundreds of millions of Chinese people out of poverty.
	It's absolute hogwash.
	And to add to that, in terms of the waiting times, I'll share with you the seven types of evidence that prove the existence of an enormous living organ donor pool.
	So the wait time, you said, the wait time for a donor organ is extremely short, and there are a surprising number of emergency organ transplants as well.
	Now, going back to the, and I have it with me, The waiting times.
	Take a listen to this.
	The United States Department, David, and I just want to bring it up, but the United States Department of Health and Human Services says the average...
	Sorry, it's just loading.
	According to the data published by the United States Department of Health and Human Services, the average waiting period for organs in the U.S. is two years for a liver, Wow.
	Wow. During the three weeks you are there, then that means someone is going to schedule an execution as you are there.
	So, I mean, it's unbelievable.
	Here, the original, the Oriental Organ Transplant Center in China, two weeks.
	The Organ Transplant Institute of the People's Liberation Army is only one week for a liver transplant.
	So this is insane.
	And they do it on a kill-to-order, state-sanctioned kill-to-order on demand.
	That's what makes it so evil.
	But I have a third clip as well, David, if you would like to know about the evidence in the United Nations.
	Actually, the China Tribunal was set up to expose this even further with Jeffrey Nisqc, who was the leading prosecuting attorney for Sovrna Milosevic of the Yugoslavian dictator.
	and he was accompanied by six tribunal members from the US, the UK, Malaysia and Iran, bringing expertise in international human rights law, transplant surgery, international relations, Chinese history and business to the forefront.
	So there's absolutely no doubt.
	I mean, I know people have a right to be skeptical, but at this point, when all this evidence is confirmed over a 22-year period, I mean, if anything, just do the research, do the work, take responsibility.
	But unfortunately, you still have trolls, you still have agents, you still have disinformation, and people are ruthless because they're all in the pockets of the CCP. As you so eloquently said, David, it's all about money.
	Yeah, yeah, it is. Let's play the clip of the China Tribunal UN Human Rights.
	2019. Mr.
	Vice President, the Durban Declaration affirms the urgent need to prevent, combat, and eliminate all forms of trafficking in persons, including organ trafficking.
	China Tribunal, a people's tribunal chaired by Sir Geoffrey Nice, considered all available evidence and concluded that forced organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience, including the religious and ethnic minorities of Falun Gong and Igors, had been committed for years throughout China on a significant scale.
	And that it continues today.
	This involves hundreds of thousands of victims.
	Acting on independent legal advice, the tribunal concluded that the Commission of Crimes Against Humanity, against Falun Gong and Errors, had been proved beyond reasonable doubt.
	Victim for victim and dead for dead.
	Cutting out the hearts and other organs from living, blameless, harmless, peaceable people constitutes one of the worst mass atrocities of this century.
	Organ transplantation to save life is a scientific and social triumph, but killing the donor is criminal.
	Government and international bodies must do their duty not only in regard to the possible charge of genocide, but also in regard to crimes against humanity, which the tribunal does not consider to be less heinous.
	It is the legal obligation of UN member states and the duty of this council to address this criminal conduct.
	Thank you, Mr. Vice President.
	Yes, and of course, what we're talking about here is ultimately human sacrifice.
	And we have to recognize in our society the beginnings of this and where it's ultimately going to lead.
	And there's certain ingredients that are always going to be there.
	You're going to have an authoritarian government that's going to be secretive about what it does.
	And of course, no respect for human life and all of these things are there.
	and an antipathy towards religion.
	And we're seeing all of these aspects are starting to coalesce here in the United States.
	And so let's talk a little bit about, Mitchell, let's talk a little bit about some of the other aspects that you had there about evidence.
	One of the ones that you sent to me was surging business.
	Talk about the number of hospitals that do transplants.
	And, of course, when we've talked about what's happened in the last year or so, again, a lot of people in the U.S. are concerned even because it's like, well, are you taking this from somebody who really is dead?
	And let's be careful about the definition of what that is.
	And a lot of people have a lot of very valid moral concerns about transplants because of that, that you might presume that somebody, you might be a little bit too eager to write this person off and say that they're dead.
	They're clinically dead, but this is an actual business.
	And of course, what we also saw, which gave us even more concern in the United States, is the fact that these hospitals would refuse to do, let's say, a kidney transplant.
	The first case I heard about this, you had a woman whose friend was going to donate her kidney.
	You got two kidneys, so you can donate one and you can survive.
	She was a voluntary donor.
	They didn't have to wait for somebody to show up.
	They weren't taking it from someone else.
	She was a voluntary donor. And they refused to let it happen because neither of them were vaccinated because that violated their Christian principles.
	And so they refused to do this.
	Here in the United States, because they would let people that they tell you that they believe is a life-saving procedure, that they would let them die because they've not taken the vaccine.
	Now we're looking at this From another mercenary aspect and from another unethical aspect, withholding what they believe is life-saving care for a mercenary agenda.
	So when we're talking about business, talk about how many different hospitals there are in the U.S. specializing in some of these transplants versus China.
	It's unbelievable. I mean, this is, according to Chris Smith, the U.S. Congressman of New Jersey, and he's been filing tooth and nail, as well as Dana Rockenbacher of the U.S. Congress.
	And he shared about how this is a barbaric human rights abuse that must be stopped.
	And I do believe that the House of Representatives passed a unanimous bill to sanction China on organ harvesting, which was quite a...
	But again, I mean, a lot of these resolutions are toilet paper, and we can talk about the deception, I mean, the collusion.
	They'll talk, you know, you need a politician, I call them all the tricksters.
	And I've been hearing the same stuff from these people for years and years ago.
	goes, oh, we're all about the Falun Gong, we want to stop the organ harvesting, but yet they're doing business with the same regime that are doing this.
	This is the double-edged sword that we're dealing with.
	When I was in Steve Bannon, David, he pressed me for the names in front of all these people.
	Again, I'm five hours away from the Chinese border, and I shared with him, yes, we do have the names of all these Western politicians that have been doing business with the CCP For the global enterprise to grow in this state-sanctioned genocide that the CCP has been conducting for many years now, even since the 1960s, by the way.
	But in terms of the skyrocketing businesses, I think this business you'll find is quite interesting.
	There were more than 600 hospitals and over 1,700 doctors engaged in organ transplant surgeries in 2007.
	By comparison, the United States has about 130 hospitals specializing in liver transplant surgery and fewer than 244 kidney transplant centers, according to CNN and the National Kidney Center.
	So the statistics, for example, published by the military hospitals in China, these two hospitals have very close ties to the Chinese military that provide a glimpse into the rapid growth of China's organ transplant markets.
	For example, the number of completed liver transplant surgeries published on their websites skyrocketed.
	I mean, about 30 to 40 percent at least in 2004.
	So it just goes to show, for example, the Oriental Organ Transplant Centre's rapid growth has brought in huge revenues.
	For example, according to the previous media reports of the China Southern Weekend, liver transplants alone bring the centre an annual income of 100 million yuan.
	I'm not sure what that is, but that's big business.
	It's huge. And according to the Phoenix Weekly 2006 report, this was even in 2006, the liver transplant fee from the oriental organ transplant in China was approximately $32,000, which is about 250 yuan.
	In 2005, it was over $40,000.
	And some intermediary agencies charge a brokering-free Brokering fee as high as $13,000 a pop.
	So this is big business, David.
	And talking about how does this relate to America, well, let this sink in.
	We did an investigation in 2016, a continued deal we found that The Chinese Communist Party's director of Family and Human Services, okay, it's all CCP related, but Dr.
	Li Bing, Director Li Bing, did a continued deal with Planned Parenthood in the United States for approximately $518 million to sell, to buy from Planned Parenthood who were selling the DNA The tissue and the organs from American babies,
	okay, that's why they want to kill the babies outside the womb now, and they're passing all these laws in California to legalize, you know, this abortion and all this kind of stuff, to sell the DNA of American DNA tissue and organs to the CCP, where now the CCP, since 2016, has become the main procurer of American DNA, Used under the guise of stem cell research for biological weapons research.
	And what was unleashed, David?
	Oh, the COVID-19 vaccine.
	And where was this supposedly concocted or moved from Ralph Baric in North Carolina and Fauci funding the Wuhan lab, the most dangerous bioweapon lab, according to Dr.
	Francis Boyle? The COVID-19 game of function.
	So... You can't make the stuff up, David.
	That is very much a part of the bioweapon programs, gain-of-function stuff, and that is to target a weapon for a particular people group.
	That has always been a part of what they're doing.
	It is amazing, and we do know that that is happening, that Planned Parenthood is part of that organ.
	That came out of their persecution of David Daleiden.
	And that was part of the discovery process to find out that it was our own NIH and specifically Fauci's organization, the NIAID, that was participating in that kind of organ harvesting.
	So they're buying organs from Planned Parenthood to get DNA.
	And I imagine that for the most part, you talk about transplant tourism, transplant on demand, right?
	You're not going to be able to show up at these transplant centers here in the United States and say, I've got a kidney that's going to be shipped from China.
	Can you check me in here?
	So you're going to go there to get the operation done.
	Talk a little bit about what that looks like.
	Did we lose the sound? Oh, we lost your sound.
	Can you hear me? Oh, here we go.
	Okay, we're back. Yes.
	So talk a little bit about what transplant-on-demand looks like, what transplant tourism...
	I mean, if you go there, as you pointed out, you know that they're going to take your blood type, they're going to look through their databases and find somebody that they believe is going to be a match.
	I don't know that I would exactly trust somebody that's going to be murdering someone to give me their organs...
	That's one of the big problems that I've got about all the vaccine mandates.
	You know, if they're going to be that unethical that they're going to deny what they believe is going to be life-saving surgery for you, then do I really trust them with anything else?
	We'll talk a little bit about the transplant tourism.
	Absolutely. I just want to share just briefly about what Gordon Chang said about the biotechnology, how if you want to find the biggest database of DNA of Americans, don't look in America.
	The places you will find that is in China, which is absolutely absurd.
	We want to talk about treason.
	I mean, that's a foreign entity procuring the number one database of American DNA. But he commented, and I think this is interesting, and I'll share with you about the transfer on demand.
	Chang has commented about, in our quote, about the CCP's efforts to gain an advantage in biotechnology.
	And he quotes, he says, these biotech companies from China will try to have research collaborations.
	They have all sorts of partnerships with the U.S. companies in DNA and genetics.
	And whatever they can't get legally, they will steal it.
	So, for instance, the hack that was discovered or released in January 2015 of Anthem, the second largest American insurance company that was in China.
	They got a lot of information on Americans, perhaps 80 million of them.
	On the other hand, China is preventing Chinese research institutes and companies from sharing Chinese DNA. So I think it's quite telling how treasonous our politicians have become.
	Yeah, it's kind of the same thing with TikTok.
	They're not going to allow the kind of filth that they promote on TikTok.
	They're not going to allow that filth in China.
	Yeah, it is truly amazing what is happening with that.
	Now, again, this has been going on for quite...
	Even back in the late 90s, I remember...
	And I mentioned this at the beginning of the program.
	The plasticized body projects, right?
	Evidence that they had murdered prisoners in order to get those bodies was already surfacing.
	The transplant-on-demand stuff was not as well investigated as it is now.
	But that has pretty much been understood.
	I remember one of these cases...
	There was one guy who witnessed it, who nearly killed himself, but they found that he had some kind of a health issue.
	And so he was kind of spared by that disease, and he ultimately got out and got to the West.
	But they didn't use him for a transplant simply because of their test and found out that he had a particular disease.
	So I guess they want to keep up their reputation to some degree with people, the elites that are out there that are able to spend money and engage in transplant tourism.
	Absolutely. In terms of the transplant demand, I mean, this has been going on for several, several years.
	And it's on demand.
	I mean, this is state sanctions, all run by the military, and the highest ranking officials of the Chinese Communist Party.
	It's big business. It's a multi-billion dollar business a yearly.
	To cut out the organs while alive and then sell the organs for hundreds and thousands of dollars.
	And according to Wang Fang Liang in his 2004 investigation in Life Week magazine, I know it's 2004, but it holds precedence.
	Like the Constitution of 1776 will always hold precedence over treason.
	And the U.S. codes and the executive orders that have been implemented to stop this kind of treason from happening.
	It's all constitutional law.
	But he says, besides Korean patients, there are patients from more than 20 countries and regions in Asia, such as Japan, Malaysia, Egypt, Pakistan, India, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan, who have come to the central hospitals in China.
	And the actual ward looks like an international conference centre where patients of different colours and ethnic backgrounds gather to share their medical experiences.
	And what happened was, David, is that ever since this happened, at least by 2006-2007, the organ tourism business in the United States and Canada skyrocketed as well between 30-40%.
	And you could just call the hospitals.
	And ask for these organs and kidneys and livers.
	Actually, in the last clip, I think I have a doctor.
	There's a tape conversation that an investigator that is disguised as a buyer calls the doctor.
	I think you'll find that quite interesting with the listeners.
	Yeah, go ahead and play that. This is from the documentary Hard to Believe.
	By 2000, Falun Gong practitioners were disappearing into labor camps in mass numbers.
	At the same time, Chinese hospitals began promoting their organ transplant expertise.
	I'm David Madoff and with me is David Kilgore.
	We've been asked to investigate allegations that there has been harvesting of organs of Falun Gong in China.
	David Kilgore is a former member of parliament and former cabinet minister for Asia Pacific and I'm a Winnipeg lawyer doing immigration refugee and international human rights law in Winnipeg.
	And we have now done our investigation and we're producing this report.
	And I didn't know whether it was true or not and so my task Initially, it was to try to figure out a way of approaching the issue so I could either prove it or disprove it and not just walk away and say, I don't know.
	The number of executions in China varied widely depending on who was counting.
	But Metis says no matter which number he used, the number of executions and the number of organs didn't add up.
	The transplant volumes increased substantially after the persecution of Falun Gong began.
	I mean, there's a lot of other evidence, but the most likely explanation for the increase is the Falun Gong.
	We pursued every investigative trail we could find.
	In the report, you will see that there are 18 different avenues of proof and disproof we considered and evaluated.
	Our bottom-line conclusion after considering everything as best we could was that the allegations are true.
	We believe them to be true, that this harvesting is indeed happening.
	Metis says what made Falun Gong organs especially attractive was the practitioner's healthy lifestyle.
	They do not drink or smoke.
	On many of the recordings of phone calls made to more than 100 Chinese hospitals, doctors assure callers that transplant organs are from healthy Falun Gong practitioners.
	Yes, of course, a good one would be picked up.
	They're from Falun Gong. Only that would work because these things we need have high quality assurance.
	So would you go yourself to pick them out?
	Yes, of course. We go to pick them out.
	Yeah, there you go. Quality control.
	And, of course, we can find more information.
	Mitchell Nicholas Gerber.
	Find more information at stoporganharvesting.org.
	And tell us about the movie that we've seen a couple of clips from as well.
	Absolutely, David. It's been an honor and a pleasure as well.
	And I'm grateful to everybody who's tuned in tonight because it's very important.
	I do this for no fame, no money, no recognition.
	Like I said, it's very important to take yourself out of your own self-interest and try to do a little bit good for humanity.
	But Hard to Believe is an award-winning documentary from Swoop Films.
	And you can... Download it so you can watch it.
	If you go to hardtobelievemovie.com, hardtobelievemovie.com.
	And I would also recommend people to try to learn the exercises.
	If you're stressed out, if you're having anxiety, doesn't matter whether you're Christian, Buddhist, atheist, Catholic, Muslim, it's a beautiful overall stress-relieving exercise in meditation.
	It doesn't cost you a thing.
	And you can go to learnfalangom.com as well, learnfalangom.com.
	And also, I just want to share, if I may, one more thing, David.
	For all the skeptics out there, may I?
	Go ahead. The dogs bark.
	The caravan moves on, he says.
	Look, the slaughter has been out for a year.
	That's plenty of time for serious reviewers to question my conclusions.
	I can't think of one who has.
	Even the South China Morning Post, which obviously had to give a critical review, given their financial relationship with the mainland, didn't dare.
	And I stand by every footnote, every interview.
	I don't begrudge anyone the right to doubt.
	As I say in my book, these are serious allegations, toxic allegations.
	But no one, no one has the right to dismiss the allegations without actually reading the corpus of work that has been published.
	The Slaughter, Bloody Harvest and State Organs books, Not to mention all the investigative reports that have been authored by the Epoch Times, the World Organization to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong, and Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting.
	This investigation started in 2006, yet the volume of investigative work is only increasing.
	You want to comment? Hit the books.
	If someone is too lazy to read about this subject, or just doesn't care enough about Chinese atrocities to bother, Perhaps they should keep silent.
	So I want to take my hat up to you, David.
	You are an amazing investigator.
	You are an amazing host.
	I've seen the work that you've done.
	I'm a big fan, and I'm actually honored in this historic time to be on a show like yours to expose this evil and defend the good name of Falun Gong as a God-fearing Christian and a God-fearing man.
	So thank you, David, and God bless you.
	Well, thank you, Mitchell, and thank you for standing against this heinous practice.
	But I just want to tell people here in our country, you know, it's very easy to project these things onto China and to say, well, they need to get their house in order.
	We need to understand that that is a picture of what is coming for us if we throw away the fundamental values that we have.
	We have the forces, the same forces that want to enforce an authoritarian regime of censorship, That wants to oppose the free exercise of religion.
	That wants to ban the family.
	That wants to murder innocent babies and mutilate children and sexualize them.
	All of these different aspects.
	This is the essence of evil.
	This is how it is manifested.
	And this is not some side issue.
	This is not something that can easily be dismissed.
	This has been the problem with the Republican Party for a very long time.
	They look at this and say, well, you know, but what are the tax rates going to be?
	What can we do for spending?
	So this has been for a very long time where Republicans have, on a political standpoint, just kind of tapped out.
	And then the churches have tapped out of politics.
	And they don't want to get involved in that.
	This is not, again, it's not simply a cultural warfare.
	This is spiritual warfare.
	And it is pure evil.
	And we can see where this is going to ultimately go.
	I don't have time to get into a video that I was going to show you about transgenderism.
	But if we can mutilate and sexualize children, if we can chop up these children at birth for children, Frankenstein experiment of transhumanized mice and our own government doing it.
	Our own government will do this type of stuff to us that is happening in China now.
	So it's great talking to you, Mitchell.
	Again, the website is stoporganharvesting.org.
	Thank you so much and hope that you can bring light to this even more so.
	Thank you. That's it for our show today, folks.
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