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April 24, 2023 - The David Knight Show
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25Apr23 Tucker: BigPharma, Epps, Dominion and Does His Weekend Speech Show a New Direction?
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Using free speech to free minds.
You're listening to The David Knight Show.
As the clock strikes 13, it's Tuesday, the 25th of April, year of our Lord, 2023.
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Well, today we're going to talk about an important update to the election.
I've always said that rigged elections began with the ballot and continue into the debate.
And now that we have RFK Jr.
on the ballot, The Democrats have decided they're not going to have a debate.
Isn't that interesting? And we're going to begin by talking about what happened with Tucker Carlson.
It's everywhere on the news, and I think it is important news.
Why was he fired, and what is ahead?
I think there's a lot to learn about this.
And we'll talk about all the different speculations, what I think it is.
I'll tell you what I believe is behind this.
And perhaps there may be something good that comes out of this.
Stay with us. We'll be right back. Well,
I think Tucker was fired about a half hour before this program ended.
I saw it right away after the show ended and I said right away what I thought was behind it.
And as I look at all of the Confidential sources that have spoken and so forth, and articles that have been written, all the different theories about what is behind this.
I stick to my original opinion.
But this is what Fox News did about 15 minutes after the news break.
We have some news from within our Fox family.
Fox News Media and Tucker Carlson have mutually agreed to part ways.
Tucker's last show was this past Friday.
And starting tonight, Fox News Tonight will air live at 8 p.m.
Eastern. It will be an interim show with rotating Fox News personalities until a new host is named.
We want to thank Tucker Carlson for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a long-term contributor.
Yeah, well, that was Faulkner talking about it.
And, of course, when you look at the fact they don't even have anybody set to go, I don't think it was a mutual decision.
Whose decision was it? Was it Tucker Carlson?
Did he quit? Was he fired?
You have these executives who I kind of know.
Just get this guy out.
What he said or what's happening with this, we've got to get this guy out right now.
I don't care. We don't have anybody to cover the thing tonight.
I'll do it myself. But, of course, you didn't have Rupert Murdoch do the show.
Unlike some other people. Anyway, did he quit?
Was he fired? What will he do next?
A lot of people have talked about why would this happen?
He was the number one show on Fox.
He was the number one show everywhere.
Everywhere. And, of course, they've taken a hit financially.
Their stock was up earlier in the day and then lost about 5% at one point.
I don't know where it is right now.
But then there's a lot of questions.
Was this fallout from the Dominion lawsuit?
Was this part of the settlement requirement?
I discounted that right away because I believe that if that were the case, you would have seen contributors like Bartiromo and Hannity go first because they were far more into this Trump thing than Tucker was.
Was it because of the Ray Epps 60 Minutes thing?
Was it because of his opposition to Big Pharma?
Which he came out with on, I think it was Wednesday of last week.
Wednesday or Thursday of last week.
I hadn't seen that. And I saw a comment from RFK Jr.
about that, that I'll show you.
And I started looking for that.
I thought, whoa, that's pretty amazing.
And I'm going to play that comment.
Because you could see that Tucker was obviously nervous about it.
He was breathing a little bit heavy, and he was very nervous about it.
See if you think that. I certainly thought that.
Was it because some people said, AOC is demanding it?
Yeah, she did demand it, but she doesn't have that kind of clout.
We don't have to pretend that she did.
So, we'll look at all that.
We'll look at what he might do now as well.
The LA Times reported that he was pushed out by Rupert Murdoch.
Suddenly. And of course...
They said the people familiar with the situation who were not authorized to comment publicly said the decision to fire Carlson came straight from Fox Corporation Chairman Rupert Murdoch with input from board members and other Fox corporate executives.
They wrote this about an hour and 15 minutes after the firing.
According to one person familiar with the discussions, Murdoch's son, Lachlan, and Suzanne Scott, chief executive of Fox News Media, decided late Friday that Carlson had to go.
Now, they're saying late Friday.
That still doesn't preclude that it had something to do with the 60 Minutes hit piece.
What I said from the very beginning was I said, you look at what they did on 60 Minutes with Ray Epps, and it was all Ray Epps versus Tucker, Ray Epps versus Tucker, over and over again.
They personalized it to Tucker.
And I said, well, obviously, they know that there's another lawsuit coming, perhaps.
And so this would be one way to preemptively shut that off, I think.
Not necessarily. I mean, you have a certain amount of time to correct something if it's false.
But if you do this right after Ray Epps comes out and says, Tucker Carlson is coming after me and so forth, that might be something that would inoculate him from a future lawsuit.
Considering the fact that they had a big settlement that they did with Dominion, there's an even bigger lawsuit coming from Smartmatic that's twice the size of the Dominion lawsuit.
And do they really want to fight for Tucker Carlson coming after Ray Epps?
I don't think so. It's not, just as they did not want to go to trial, they would not want to have that happen again.
They wouldn't want to go through all the discoveries.
Like, let's stop this. Anything that looks like a lawsuit at this point in time, I would think that Rupert Murdoch would just immediately pull the plug.
That's why I said that's what I thought it was about.
The Ray Epps thing. Carlson's exit is related to the discrimination lawsuit filed by Abby Grossberg, the producer fired by the network last month, said sources.
Carlson's senior executive producer, Justin Wells, has also been terminated, according to Insiders.
And so, again, another lawsuit.
That could be it, more so than the Ray Epps thing, or it could be both of these combined.
Like, I'm going to keep this guy around and get two more lawsuits?
Grossberg was moved off of Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo and on to the Tucker Carlson tonight, where she alleged that she was bullied and subjected to anti-Semitic comments, according to a lawsuit in New York.
The former Fox News producer said she was coerced by company lawyers to give misleading answers in the Dominion defamation case.
Fox News denied the claims that she was terminated for disclosing privileged company information.
Murdoch is also said to be concerned about Carlson's coverage of January the 6th.
The host has promoted the conspiracy theory that it was provoked by government agents, not a conspiracy theory, and has called Ray Epps, an FBI plant, without presenting any evidence.
Epps was interviewed Sunday on 60 Minutes, said he's been subjected to death threats as a result of Carlson's statements about him.
The FBI told 60 Minutes that Epps had never worked for the agency, says LA Times.
But when you look at this, this is the same thing that was done They, you know, first they do some character assassination in the media, then they file a lawsuit.
That's what was going on with Alex Jones and Megyn Kelly and the Sandy Hook lawsuit.
That's the way they operate.
I think that's a bigger issue than this employee dispute.
That'd be something that'd be easily settled if, in fact, there was any truth to it whatsoever, which I doubt since the ADL is involved in that as well.
And they're probably involved in that not because people who are really hateful and racist, and we need to not give them a pass by crying wolf, but that is a tactic of ADL. Anyway, Some of the comments that Carlson made about Fox News management and communications turned up in the discovery process for the case may have played a role in his downfall, they said. Some of the things that he wrote, texted others, we devote our lives to building an audience, he said.
And they let Chris Wallace and Leland effing Vitterk, now Vitterk is a Fox News reporter who was criticizing Trump, right?
You're going to wreck this by criticizing Trump.
And this is one of the reasons, look, Tucker Carlson, as we see in these messages, had skewed his stuff, right?
Privately, he didn't believe any of this stuff about the election.
Publicly, he said something very different.
That's a big issue. It's a big issue for his audience.
It's a big issue for a lawsuit, right?
That is really the smoking gun.
And it wasn't even Tucker as much as it was Hannity and other people.
But Tucker was a part of that.
And if they are going to deliberately lie in order to get audience, that's the essence of the defamation lawsuit from Dominion.
It is a defense if you sincerely believe it's true.
It doesn't show malice.
But if you believe that, you know, something is false that you're saying and you're doing it and it harms somebody, that's evidence of malice.
That's the key thing.
And so it was these texts that were going back and forth between Tucker and Sean Hannity and other people, Laura Ingraham, after the 2020 election.
He also sent texts critical of Fox news correspondents who fact-checked the election fraud claims on network, even though they did not believe them themselves.
And look, so did the person who is now the news executive.
What was her name? Suzanne whatever.
Suzanne Scott. She was going back and forth and saying, hey, look, it's not a good look for us to be criticizing Trump.
That's our audience. And I pointed out that This is what's happened to news.
Even with Tucker, they're looking to please a demographic.
They're following the crowd.
Rather than telling the truth, rather than informing them, they are looking to see what people want to hear and feeding that to them, whether they believe it's true or not.
They tell the audience, their demographic, what they want to hear.
That's how they make their money. They also make their money by selling big pharma ads.
They said he was also alienating advertisers, and we'll talk about, and I'll play you the clip of what he said on April the 19th.
If that didn't alienate both Big Pharma and Fox News, I don't know what it would take to alienate them.
What he had to say was very good that day.
The Daily Mail said Tucker Carlson was blindsided by Fox News' firing.
There was a direct order from Rupert Murdoch after the January 6th conspiracy claims And a producer's lawsuit alleging bullying, sexism, and anti-Semitism.
His exit erased half a million dollars in value.
Well, later in the day, it had gotten up to a billion dollars.
I think it's going to wind up being one of these things like the Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light thing.
I think it's going to cost him several billion dollars without a lawsuit.
That's the funny thing about it.
And it couldn't happen to a nicer guy than Rupert Murdoch, frankly.
Look, let's understand, Rupert Murdoch never was a conservative in any way, shape, or form.
He's a mercenary.
They created Fox News and they brought in a conservative to run the news organization.
Why did he do that?
You look at Fox programming.
Married with children and a lot of other things like that, they were really pushing the envelope on degeneracy.
And I had a lot of friends who were Christians who really hated Fox entertainment.
But they loved Fox News because it was conservative.
Rupert Murdoch would do whatever he thinks is going to make him money.
He decided later on that he was going to start...
A radio network, and since talk radio was all conservative, he decided that he would do a liberal talk radio network.
It crashed and burned.
It failed. There's no audience for that.
But, you know, he wanted to go against the grain, and that's what he was doing with Fox.
He looks at the, you know, cable news and broadcast news, and he sees that it is hardcore leftist status.
So let's go the other direction with it.
That's all it was. And, you know, there's no political philosophy from him.
It's just about the next dollar he's going to get.
Purely mercenary for Murdoch.
Even some of his closest staff, Tucker Carlson's staff, were unaware that his show had been axed.
They read about it for the first time on Twitter.
No one I know was told about it beforehand.
We were blindsided.
One senior staffer who works closely with Tucker's show...
told the Daily Mail.
Another insider revealed that he still has no idea why he was let go so suddenly.
He said, Tucker still hasn't been given any indication as to why he was taken off the air.
His producer, Justin Wells, was fired too.
We believe Rupert wants to sell the company, and it's harder to find an institutional buyer with Tucker as the main star.
That's one of the reasons why the news, cable as well as broadcast news, is so hardcore left.
It's because the big corporations that have been marched through, on a long march through the institutions, they took over the corporations, the big corporations.
And they're very politicized.
I mean, ESG is just the open embrace of the politicization that has been in all of these multinational corporations, the big corporations, for a long time.
They've just come out, you know, not trying to hide it anymore.
They came out of the closet. And so they are very politicized, and they weaponize that in terms of their sponsorship.
That's why I don't have any sponsors.
They hate the stuff that I do.
Anyway, so you can get some of that stuff on talk radio, podcasts, and everything, but you can't monetize that anywhere else.
You get banned everywhere else now.
Not only do they not support it as far as advertising goes, but they ban it.
Tucker gone, makes it more of an appealing media company to buy, said the source.
Carlson has paid about $20 million a year.
Carlson found out that he's being let go about 10 minutes before the network announced his departure.
Yeah, I can relate to that.
Anyway, so, and again, he may have well known that this type of thing was going to happen because, or suspected it was going to happen, Because of the lawsuit stuff and the texts that were going around.
But he also might have figured, as I did, well, okay, it hasn't happened yet.
Maybe it's not going to happen. And then you get caught.
RFK Jr. pointed out that Tucker slammed Big Pharma on April the 19th.
So here is what RFK Jr.
tweeted out. He said, Fox fires Tucker Carlson five days after he crossed the red line by acknowledging that the TV networks pushed a deadly and ineffective vaccine to please their pharma advertisers.
Carlson's breathtakingly courageous April the 19th monologue broke TV's two biggest rules.
Tucker told the truth about how greedy pharma advertisers control TV news content.
And he lambasted obsequious newscasters for promoting the jab.
And we're going to show you one of the most obsequious promoters of the jab on Fox News, Mark Levin.
He's still doing it.
He's still slathering all over Trump.
Like Grimer Worm Time.
But yeah, blasting obsequious newscasters for promoting jabs that they knew to be lethal and worthless.
For many years, Tucker has had the nation's biggest audience, averaging 3.5 million people, 10 times the size of CNN. Fox just demonstrated the terrifying power of big pharma, says RFKJ. That's what I'll call it.
Small J when you write it.
All uppercase, RFK, and then a small J there.
So, here is what Tucker...
Actually said about Big Pharma.
And when you watch this clip, and maybe even if you're just listening to this, you can kind of hear it in his voice.
But if you listen to his voice and you watch him, he is very nervous when he's saying this.
Well, here's one measure of their badness.
You can try this at home. Ask yourself, is any news organization you know of so corrupt that it's willing to hurt you on behalf of its biggest advertisers?
Anyone who'd do that is obviously Pablo Escobar-level corrupt and should not be trusted.
What would that look like?
That level of corruption.
Well, imagine that the Trump administration had made it mandatory for American citizens to buy MyPillow.
That's one of Fox News' biggest advertisers.
Imagine the administration declared that if you didn't rush out and buy at least one MyPillow, and then at least another booster pillow, you would not be allowed to eat out.
You couldn't re-enter your own country.
You couldn't have a paying job.
MyPillow, they told you with a straight face, was the very linchpin of our country's public health system.
Now imagine as they told you that, that Fox, as a news organization, endorsed it, amplified the government's message.
Imagine if Fox News attacked anyone who refused to buy MyPillow as an ally of Russia, as an enemy of science.
And then imagine that Fox kept up those libelous attacks, even as evidence mounted that MyPillow caused heart attacks, fertility problems, and death.
If Fox News did that, what would you think of Fox News?
Would you trust us? Of course you wouldn't.
You would know that we were liars.
Thank heaven, Fox News never did anything like that.
But the other channels did.
The other channels took hundreds of millions of dollars from big pharma companies.
And then they shilled for their sketchy products on the air.
And as they did that, they maligned anyone who was skeptical of those products.
At the very least, this was a moral crime.
It was disgusting.
But it was universal.
It happened across the American news media.
They all did it. So at this point, the question isn't who in public life is corrupt.
Too many to count.
The question is, who is telling the truth?
Yeah, who is telling the truth?
Now you heard that as he started talking about Fox.
What if Fox did this? In fact, he starts to get breathless.
And he starts to talk a little bit fast.
And he loses some of his gravitas, we'd say.
I thought that was interesting.
I also thought it was an interesting analogy.
What if we... I told you my pillow.
What if my pillow was killing people with heart attacks and all the rest of the stuff?
Obviously, he's talking about the jab.
And I don't know. Maybe...
I never thought...
Travis, I never thought to look if the pillow that was over the face of Scalia there, in that remote, creepy area, he was found with a pillow over his face.
I never asked if that was my pillow.
Maybe. Who knows?
Anyway. But he goes on to say, and then he starts to regain his composure when he says, now, Fox didn't do that.
Oh, yes, Fox did do that.
Tucker knows they did that.
I've talked many times about how he knew early on, and he should have said something early on.
Better late than never.
And if he gets him fired, well, there's better things to do than to sell lies.
But I remember that summer, and it was June or July...
And it was done during the Fox News show because he would say, well, I don't know.
I'm still concerned about this.
He wasn't on board with the operation thing, but he wouldn't criticize it.
He wouldn't criticize Operation Warp Speed.
But he would say, well, you know, and kind of back off.
And so they had Dr.
Mark Siegel, one of the biggest big pharma pushers, Warp speed vaccine pushers out there.
Dr. Mark Siegel, who works for Fox News, went down to Washington, had an interview with Trump.
I've talked about it many times.
I've shown it many times.
I talked about it when it happened.
And they're six feet apart, so they don't have to wear a mask.
And he's like, oh, it's wonderful.
The vaccine is coming along really fast.
Well, Mr. President, are you going to take it right away?
Well, if I do, they'll say that I jumped ahead of the line.
And if I don't do it, they'll say I'm afraid of it.
So I don't know what I do, you know.
And they're a little laughing about this.
Oh, yes, it's great. It's just a miracle.
It's coming soon. And again, the body language from Tucker Carlson, when they came back, he kind of rolled his eyes and he goes, okay, you know, whatever.
I'm not getting it. And he would say things like that.
But for the longest time, as we were going through and seeing the body counts go up on the VAERS database, he would throw to people.
They would have him throw to people who supported it.
Mark Siegel all the time.
But he would not come out and oppose it directly.
This is the most directly that he's ever opposed it.
And he says that Fox didn't do it.
Now he knows that Fox did.
So perhaps now...
That he's been cut loose.
Perhaps now he'll tell us about Fox, which you can spell as P-H-O-X, as in pharma, or maybe spell it F-A-U-X, as in fake news.
Tucker Carlson last week ripped big pharma spending hundreds of millions of dollars on TV ads and news outlets routinely parroting drug industry talking points.
Is there a single example of CNN, MSNBC, or other Fox News hosts ever discussing TV advertising corruption?
That was written by Lee Fang.
No. No.
He did more than any of these other people did, but he still lied, even in that clip, to cover for Fox News.
There's no person that's more willing to say things that you're not supposed to say, said American Moment on Twitter.
And I agree with him. I'm glad that he did it.
I was glad that he even rolled his eyes sometimes when people would talk about the vaccine.
I was glad that he even said once, I'm not getting it.
I'm glad he did at least that much.
That helped. But you need to tell people the truth.
And maybe he will now. Maybe he'll be much better now.
When he's not taking drug money, $20 million of it a year, because that's the major sponsor of Fox News.
Everybody knows it. The Ask Your Doctor commercials, the pharmaceutical commercials, it's huge at Fox News.
So the shares of Fox have plunged after this, as I said, went down at 1.4.8%, maybe even further, after they had climbed 0.3% in the morning.
Once they kicked off their host of their number one show, it fell.
And then you've got some people who tweeted out about an hour just before the LA Times story came out.
Justin Hart tweeted out, My sources are telling me Tucker was all set to go live tonight.
He probably had plenty to talk about with this lawsuit, the Dominion.
And to clear his name, producers were prepping guests and slots on Monday's show.
Corporate nixed the idea.
And Tucker up and quit.
Well, I don't know, again, whether he quit or whether he was fired.
But I certainly don't agree that with that assessment here that he quit.
I think that they pushed him out.
It's just my opinion. Can't prove it.
I said yesterday, in my opinion, the 60 Minutes Peace Sunday night is why Tucker was fired.
Because it looked like a setup for another lawsuit.
And I stand by that.
As a matter of fact, when we look at the whole thing with Ray Epps and the 60 Minutes thing, I've had a lot of people ask me about Ray Epps.
I talked about it when it first came out.
It was Darren Beattie at Revolver who focused on that and really made a big issue out of that.
And of course, Darren Beattie goes on with Alex.
He goes on with Steve Bannon.
He has Trump who comes on, all the rest of the stuff.
So he's got his head way into the MAGA. Well, and all that stuff.
We won't make any reference about it.
Anyway, I thought, and I said at the time, I said, that's a very dangerous allegation to make about somebody with only some circumstantial evidence.
And I was never interested in doing that.
I thought it was a bad idea to focus exclusively on Epps.
Look, I told everybody that the whole thing was an agent provocateur setup.
That's why I was fired!
Because I was telling people, don't go.
It's a trap. Don't give them money.
There's nothing that they're going to do with it to reverse any of this stuff.
They're keeping it for themselves.
It was a lie.
It was a grift. It was a setup with agent provocateurs.
And I said it the morning of January the 6th.
I told people, don't go.
This is a setup. You're being set up by Trump.
You're being set up by Alex and stop the steal people.
And you're going to be set up by the government.
Now, everybody instinctively knew.
That that was something that was happening.
It took a while to get all this stuff out, and now we've got the video, thanks to McCarthy giving it to Tucker Carlson.
We've got the video showing them walking the Buffalo boy around, you know, giving him a guided tour.
We had many people who have been arrested who have gone to jail, like Dr.
Simone Gould. She went in to make a speech, and, you know, the police are standing there.
The doors are wide open. Come on in.
Come on in. How is that trespassing in any way, shape, or form?
You go in there and you talk, you go to jail.
You got Sam, who worked at InfoWars, the only one who did any reporting that day.
He sees a big crowd happening.
Well, if you're a reporter and you got a camera, what the heck are you doing running to the other side of town?
Why don't you run to where the action is?
That's what reporters are supposed to do.
He gets a jail sentence.
I am sick and tired of seeing people being set up, even people inside of InfoWars, being set up, thrown under the bus, To protect the stop the steal thing.
And that's what this is about.
Look, Darren Beattie wanted to get a scoop.
Darren Beattie wanted to be out front.
But there's also another aspect of this, that they want to find people to throw under the bus.
Because they know who was pushing people there.
You think that Ray Epps is responsible for January the 6th, everybody?
Do you realize, of course, now we have, we understand there are 52 informants and provocateurs just around the Proud Boys.
And this trial with Joe Biggs and, you know, four or five other people.
52 for a half dozen Proud Boys?
The place was crawling with informants.
And it was obvious it was going to happen.
I didn't have any names, and we haven't had any names, but you knew that that was going...
I knew it was going to happen.
Anybody could understand that if they'd look at it.
And of course, Alex knew.
All these people knew.
But they pulled people in with a false hope, with a lie.
They stole their money, they set them up, and they set up the whole movement, quite frankly.
It was bigger even than just the people that were there at that event.
I warned about it for two months that it was a trap, that it was a grift.
I warned about it the morning of January the 6th.
So, the question is, Ray Epps, even if he is an FBI informant provocateur or whatever, even if he is a provocateur, did he do more than Trump?
Who stole a quarter of a billion dollars from his supporters after the election and told them on that day where he's got the rally, you follow me, I'm going to go to the Capitol.
He didn't go to the Capitol. He went somewhere else.
Or Alex Jones, who said with a bullhorn, you know, we're going to do one way or the other, we're going to get him out.
You know, talking about removed one way or the other, we're going to get Biden out of the White House type of thing.
Who was it that was motivating people?
Who was it that was acting as the provocateur?
Who was it that was saying, follow me into the Capitol?
That was Trump! And it's important for these people to misdirect the anger about all this stuff, away from Trump, and away from the people who ripped them off and put it on some kind of a sacrificial lamb.
Now, Ray Epps may be an FBI provocateur.
I don't know. But why focus on him?
I'll tell you why. Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, number 13, pick a target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it.
That's what they did, the three-ups.
And that's what a lot of people, you know, Darren Beattie, he wants to get there first or something.
And he wants, he knows that if he puts this out there, the people who are really provoking people, the people who are really talking, go to the Capitol, go to the Capitol.
Those people would have him on their shows.
That's what it's really about, folks.
The false hope, the pushing people, the stealing the money, the start the steal.
And the start the steal started two days after the election.
November the 5th, when Steve Pachenik went on with Owen Schroyer.
And told everybody about the sting.
We've already got 20,000 people out there.
National Guard arresting people already.
It was a sting.
And we got blockchain watermarks.
What is a blockchain watermark, Steve?
Please explain that to us.
Really, Steve? Oh, wow, that's great.
I could just kiss you right now.
Doesn't exist.
The troops don't exist.
This is two days after the election.
They're supposedly arresting people.
Pure fiction. As soon as I heard that, I opposed it.
I opposed it that night.
And then on November the 6th of Friday, I opposed it.
And I got a call from Alex.
I thought he was going to fire me.
I said, you know, Alex, if you tell a lie, I've got to record it if anybody wants to question this.
I said, if you tell a lie, everybody knows this isn't true.
This isn't possible. Except you had Rush Limbaugh talking about it.
You had Clarence Thomas' wife texting the chief of staff of Trump's White House saying, I sure hope this is true.
Everybody knew about it.
You know, the lie went all the way around the world before the truth could get its pants on.
And so it was an absolute lie.
It was a grift.
Roger Stone said right away, he said, we can raise so much money off of this stuff, it'll be like falling off a log.
That's how the steal started.
They go out and they get Allie Alexander, a guy who has already been convicted twice for fraud, financial fraud, credit card fraud.
They hang out with Nick Fuentes.
We got to get Biden out of there.
That's what this thing is about, folks.
And this is why I never jumped on the Ray Epps thing.
He is a patsy for these people.
Even if he is an FBI informant, he is a patsy for them.
All these people can put their sins on the scapegoat, Ray Epps, and send him out of the camp.
That's what it's about.
So, again, the only thing I've seen that I disagree with Thomas Massey.
He commented, he said, Ray Epps is the only person I've seen on video January the 5th and January the 6th Urging and directing people to go into the Capitol.
In a text message on January the 6th, he bragged that he orchestrated it.
So why do Democrats in the media portray him as a victim?
So bizarre. He's not a victim compared to the other people that were there.
And that may indicate that he was part of this FBI provocateur agent.
But why would you single him out?
He is not the only person who did that.
Not at all, Thomas.
Come on. You've got to know better than that if you saw what was happening January the 6th.
If you saw what was happening for the two months prior to that.
We're not talking about 24 hours prior to that.
We're talking about for two months they were pushing people out.
And let me just say this.
Darren Beattie also focused on Stuart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers.
He said Stuart Rhodes is an FBI informant.
He's a provocateur, just like Ray Epps.
Said the same thing about Stuart Rhodes.
And even after Stuart Rhodes was indicted, you had Darren Beatty say, Stuart Rhodes, he's still an informant.
I stand by that. They gave him this seditious conspiracy charge because it's so over the top, they'll never get a conviction.
Well, they did get a conviction, Darren, and he's now looking at life in prison.
He hasn't been sentenced yet, but he's got a couple of 20-year sentences there.
And now there's been silence from Darren Beattie about Stuart Rhodes.
Look, as I said before, I quit interviewing Stuart Rhodes because I had a lot of people contact me and allege fraudulent activity by Stuart Rhodes with the Oath Keepers.
A lot of people got out of it and said, hey, this is what's happening there.
And so because of allegations of fraud, I did not have Stuart Rhodes on.
But he is not a Fed.
Allegations of fraud, but the allegations of being a Fed agent from Darren Beatty, I think, are despicable.
Anyway, Joseph Farah of WND says it's despicable what 60 Minutes did whitewashing Ray Epps and then coming after Tucker Carlson.
And again, I think it was a setup.
To do a lawsuit.
I think that was what that was about.
So it was a lot of the entire focus on this thing was Tucker Carlson.
Epps said, he's obsessed with me.
He's going to any means possible to destroy my life and our lives.
Why? said 60 Minutes.
Well, to shift blame onto somebody else.
He says, if you look at it, Fox News, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ted Cruz, Gates, they're all telling us before this thing that it was stolen.
So you tell me who has more impact on people, them or me.
I agree. I think that this focus on Ray Epps, exclusively focusing on Ray Epps, I think that is deflection.
I think there's a desire to have a scoop.
I think there's a desire to feed something to the MAGA audience so they should make a lot of money and they don't care who they take down, quite frankly.
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So, anyway, he goes on and says they followed his directions to go into the Capitol, says Joseph Farah.
Is he the only one who was giving directions to go into the Capitol, though?
No. Was he an agent provocateur?
Time will tell. I don't believe, just because the FBI said, no, he's not.
There's a lot of stuff that is suspicious.
We'll talk about that here. But, you know, it still doesn't, there's still not, we still don't know for sure.
And he is, even if he is, he's not the only one.
And he's not the biggest provocateur, you have to understand.
And the big provocateurs are using him as cover.
So anyway, he was put on their most wanted list and he suddenly disappeared from the list.
That is suspicious considering how they overcharged everybody else.
And so 60 Minutes says to him, did anyone from the federal government direct you to be here at the Peace Circle at this time?
He says no. No one from the FBI? No.
Your old comrades with Oath Keepers?
No. But, you know, it still doesn't exonerate him.
But the other side needs to...
We have this principle, and it should apply in media as well.
Innocent until proven guilty.
The very fact that they put him on and took him off is very different from what other people saw.
And I agree, that is suspicious.
Somebody needs to ask the FBI why they took him off.
But that is not a guarantee that he is working for them or a provocateur.
They have so many people working for them, it's quite a possibility that he could be.
But again, he is not the central figure of this thing.
Why have the MAGA press made Ray Epps the central figure?
So they can cover for Trump and themselves.
That's it. That's why he's become the central figure.
And I think this whole thing with...
You know, the 60 Minutes thing was, for him, it was going to be the precursor to a lawsuit.
You wait and see if he doesn't sue them.
So he said, he says, why were you treated differently?
Right? Over a thousand protesters arrested for nothing more suspicious than what Epps did on January the 6th.
And that's true. And it is suspicious.
But again, even if he's a provocateur, he is not the lead provocateur.
He is not the only one.
So anyway, he says Epps bragged that he had orchestrated it.
So what do you mean by that? Well, he tells 60 Minutes, I was boasting to my nephew.
I helped get people there.
I was directing people to the Capitol that morning.
And then Whitaker at 60 Minutes says, well, you know how this sounds.
I know exactly how it sounds.
I've been scolded by my wife for using that word.
I shouldn't have used that word, said Ray Epps.
Anyway, so when Epps got back to Arizona on January the 8th, the relative told him that he was on an FBI poster seeking information about certain rioters.
His wife said, we literally hung up the phone, walked right into the house, sat down, and called the FBI. Told him who I was and that I would cooperate in any way that I could.
I didn't break any laws.
Two months later, He met with agents.
And so Joseph Farah at WND said, so he did become an informer, voluntarily.
That's his comment on it.
So he said, so when we met with the FBI, it was like, finally, we're going to clear this up.
There was no, I take the fifth.
There was none of that. It was just like we're talking right now.
I went through everything.
They had a lot of questions.
Well, that has not been the experience of other people, right?
And I do think that that is suspicious.
But again, to make him the sole person that you're going to focus on?
Finally, Joseph Ferris says, well, this whole thing is just surreal.
And I agree. I mean, it's like living in the twilight zone to be warning people that this stuff is going to happen and then to watch it unfolding live, all the stuff that I said was going to happen, and then to watch how this thing continues to snowball.
What a gift Stop the Steal was to the Democrats and the FBI. What a gift Trump's Save America was to the Democrats and the FBI. And what a betrayal both of those things were to the MAGA supporters.
But you can keep the MAGA supporters from getting upset by focusing on Ray Epps, you see.
That's what this is all really about.
He was not the only provocateur if he was a provocateur.
So, Babylon Bee says, you know, what is Tucker going to do?
Well, Tucker, they show a picture of Tucker on the view.
See if you can pull that up, Travis.
And you've got all these women who are laughing hysterically, two of them on either side, and he's got that quizzical look that he gets when he's listening to somebody talk in the center, you know?
No, maybe he might have something even better than this.
You know, last week, Tucker Carlson was shilling for Trump, still.
Asking him softball questions.
Letting Trump hold court.
Uh, and then, uh, he did the same thing with Elon Musk.
Maybe there'll be something better coming from Trump at the end of the week.
He went to heritage foundation and he had some very important, insightful, introspective things to say.
And I want to play those clips for you.
But before we get away from Ray Epps, um, I wanted to play this earlier.
I forgot to.
I'm on!
We need to go into the Capitol!
Into the Capitol!
No! No!
Peacefully! Fed!
Fed! Fed! Fed!
Fed! Fed! Fed!
I don't even like to say it because I'll be arrested.
Well, let's not say it. We need to go.
I'll say it. All right.
We need to go in to the Capitol.
Based Fed posting?
We need to go into the Capitol.
I didn't see that coming. Okay.
The President is here speaking.
We are going to the Capitol where our problems are.
It's that direction.
Please spread the word.
Alright, okay, but one more thing.
Yeah, so can we go up there? No?
When we go in... Are we gonna get arrested if we go up there?
We don't need to get shot.
Are we gonna arrest us all? Okay,
you get the idea. And there's a lot of scrimmings that doesn't make for a good radio or podcast.
But the bottom line is it's very suspicious that they just let him go.
I mean, they've come after a lot of people for a lot less.
Simone Gold didn't do anything like that.
She went to jail. It is suspicious.
However, he's not the only one.
And in terms of being a successful provocateur, did you ever hear anybody at any of the Stop the Steal rallies or at any of Trump's rallies yelling, Fed, Fed, Fed?
No, they bought it.
Hook, line, and sinker. Raps didn't have as much credibility with these people as the Stop the Steal guys and Trump.
No. And so when we talk about what may lay ahead for Tucker Carlson, as I said, he was being a sycophant to Trump last week.
I think he was trying to pull back in the wake of the Dominion lawsuit.
I think things got probably pretty prickly with all that stuff.
And I think he's trying to show, look, I can have really big interviews and I can pull in really big numbers.
I can have Trump. I can have Elon Musk on.
And, you know, to try to ameliorate all of that stuff.
But then the 60 Minutes thing happened.
And now we've got Mark Levin.
Playing the role of Trump's behind kisser.
I keep forgetting to play these Ray Epps clips.
This is what 60 Minutes did with the Ray Epps clips.
Who is Ray Epps? That question has animated Fox News host Tucker Carlson for nearly two years.
Ray Epps? He's on video several times encouraging crimes, riots, breaches of the Capitol.
Carlson has focused on Epps more than 20 times on his top-rated show, a half dozen times so far this year.
He's obsessed with me.
He's going to any means possible to destroy my life and our lives.
Why? To shift blame on somebody else.
If you look at it, Fox News, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ted Cruz, Gates, they're all telling us before this thing that it was stolen.
So you tell me.
Who has more impact on people, them or me?
Epps, once a loyal Fox News watcher, told us he doesn't understand how he got cast as the villain.
The Epps version is more mundane.
They believed the 2020 election had been stolen from Donald Trump and considered January 6th a legitimate protest.
It was a sloppy election.
And then to top that off, you have talking heads reporting that there's problems with the voting machines and different things like that.
The election's stolen. So yeah, we had concerns.
I wanted to be there.
I wanted to witness this with my own eyes.
Is he a victim? Why didn't they persecute him like they did other people who were there?
But clearly he has become the scapegoat for these people.
And clearly they were focusing in this thing to come after Tucker Carlson.
So as I said, Mark Levin is still sucking up to Trump.
He had him on and listened to how obsequious he was.
Let me just say this, Mr. President.
I've talked to a lot of important people.
Supreme Court justices, presidents, presidential candidates, brilliant people.
And talking with you is really the most impressive conversation I've had.
Number one, there's very few people who could sit there and speak the way you do, from subject to subject to subject to subject, if people would let you speak and actually listen to you.
While you have the enormous pressure on your shoulders of these grand juries and other things going on, and you still are able to do it.
That is absolutely remarkable.
One of the most sickening people in media that I've ever seen, and by the way, don't fall for his lies about a constitutional convention.
Mark Levin is a traitor to our country and to the Constitution.
Back in, on December the 17th, by the way, that was the day that I was fired.
Mark Levin called for Trump to be honored with a ticker tape parade for warp speed mRNA shots.
So the day I was fired for opposing that Benedict Donald, you've got Mark Levin saying he needs to have a ticker tape parade.
Well, I think there should be a parade, but of different kind.
What I have in mind is the kind that the Roman emperors would do with the prisoners of war behind them.
That's where Trump should be.
He should be in The Hague for international crimes against humanity.
He funded these lockdowns.
He is a traitor to us, a globalist traitor.
Rather than Trump, there's a ticket tape parade, he said.
In days past, the development of miracle vaccines that saved the lives of millions of people would be celebrated by all.
They'd be cheering in the streets.
But because President Trump drove the development of these vaccines in an unbelievably short period of time and forever improved the method by which vaccines will be developed now and in the future, it's downplayed.
He said, it's appalling.
Yes, Mark Levin is appalling.
And yes, Trump did change the way that vaccines and other medicines will be approved now by bureaucratic fiat companies.
Without even a pretense of testing.
That's the legacy of Donald Trump.
And that's what that disgusting Grimer worm tongue of a reporter, Mark Levin, has to say about it.
Look, you know, I expect better things to come for Tucker Carlson.
And let me just say, you know...
Going back and the time I met Matt Drudge, it was very interesting because Adon Salazar, one of the writers there, was the one who was in contact with Matt Drudge.
He had been sending articles to Matt, and so Matt knew him, had his contact information, and contacted him and said, hey, I'd like to come to Infowars and talk to people.
But don't tell anybody I'm coming.
I want it to be a surprise. And so nobody knew he was coming.
And it was a surprise to everybody.
Alex was on air and he was surprised and, you know, Drudge shows up in the studio.
But Don comes to me and he says, hey, there's somebody here that wants to meet you.
And I said, I don't really have time.
I'm pretty busy right now.
And he goes, no, no, no, you're going to want to meet this.
I said, really? And I said, I want to meet him.
And I say, it's Matt Drudge.
And he's like, wow. And so we talked for a while.
And I told him, I said, you know, I've always admired what you did that cost you your job at Fox News.
And if you remember, you know, he had a TV show there.
And it was in 1999.
And do you remember this picture of Baby Samuel?
This was an operation in utero of a baby that had been identified as having spina bifida issues.
And as this operation was going on in Vanderbilt University here in Tennessee, as that was happening, baby Samuel reached his hand out, and you can see that tiny hand grasping the surgeon's finger.
It shows the humanity of these children.
They're not just a fetus.
And so that was a very, very powerful picture.
As a matter of fact, I told Matt, I said, even because you focused on that, because it got very popular, we had some friends of ours who had a daughter who was diagnosed with spina bifida, and they went to Vanderbilt and had that operation and probably helped her a great deal.
She still has mobility issues.
But probably not nearly as bad as it would have been.
So I said, that was really good, he says, that you did that, and I know that it cost you.
He said, no, I showed that picture because I wanted to get out of my contract with Fox.
Wow. Okay.
So, you know, maybe Tucker is ready to do something more significant than just look for an audience.
Right? Maybe he doesn't want to just build an audience or build a fortune.
As one person was saying, hey, he could make so much money.
Can you imagine? He was making $20 million at Fox.
He could do way better than Joe Rogan did.
Going out on his own.
And that's true. The person said, maybe he could make generational wealth.
The kind of money that even your kids can't squander.
Is that the point of life?
What does it profit a man?
To gain the whole world and lose his own soul.
And so, when he went to Heritage, I'm going to play something that he had to say about the meaning of life.
And maybe Tucker, as he's reflecting on this stuff, and as he has this big change in his life, perhaps...
God will move him in a way that could be very, very powerful because of the size of his audience.
He could say some very powerful things if he wants to.
Here's what he had to say at Heritage Foundation.
The very first thing you should do every single day is tell all the people you love that you love them for two reasons.
Because you do, and affirming things out loud makes them real.
Words are the most important and most powerful thing that we have, and of course, I have an interest in saying that.
If I sold Chrysler's, I'd be like, cars are the most important thing.
But words are, in the beginning was the word, and so articulate it.
And that is also simultaneously an acknowledgement of a truth that we don't face, which is we don't know what's going to happen today.
And we could die. That's the one thing that unites every person, is the certainty of death.
And reminding yourself of that every single day will bring you, paradoxically, joy.
I love you. That's the most important thing.
Or maybe you could be fired suddenly, right?
You know, your life can change just like that, with an accident.
With the death of a loved one, with your own death, with the death of your career, but it's not the death of his career.
He's going to go on. And so the question is, how will this make him a better person, a better commentator?
And I think it will. Because at Heritage Foundation, he also had this to say.
I'm not going to play the whole thing for you.
I'm just going to read you some excerpts from it.
Because the entire clip is about six minutes long.
But he says, so...
When I started it in Heritage, you said the presumption was, and this is a very Anglo-American assumption, that the debates that we're having, these kind of rational debates about the way to get to mutually agreed upon outcomes, you said, so we all want the country to be more prosperous and free and the people be less oppressed or whatever, so we're going to argue about things like tax rates.
Will higher taxes get us there?
I'm a Keynesian. You disagree.
You're an Austrian or whatever. But that objective was the same.
We had a common objective. We wanted the welfare of the people, in other words, right?
He says, that's not where we are right now.
He says, I don't think we're watching a debate over how to get the best outcome.
I've come to this conclusion that I should say at the outset, I'm an Episcopalian, So don't take any theological advice from me because I don't have any.
I grew up with what I feel is the shallowest faith tradition that's ever been invented.
It's not even Christian religion at this point.
Well, do something about it.
Move. Move from Fox.
Move from the Episcopalians.
Anyway, he says, I'm just saying this as an observer of what's going on.
There's no way to assess, let's say, the transgender movement with that mindset.
He says policies don't account for that at all.
If you have people who are saying, I'm going to castrate the next generation, he says, you're going to sexually mutilate children?
What? Sorry, that's not a political debate.
He says, what is the outcome that we're desiring here?
Do you want an androgynous population?
No. They want depopulation.
They want to stop procreation.
They want to do that by, you know, homosexuality or by mutilation, by castration, anything.
Sterilization. Anyway, he says, if you say, I think abortion is always bad, well, I think sometimes it's necessary.
He says, well, that's the debate I'm familiar with.
So if you're telling me that abortion is a positive good, what are you saying?
He said, well, you're arguing for child sacrifice.
Obviously, it's not about a teen girl gets pregnant, and what do we do about that?
It's not about the victims of rape.
I get it. Of course, I understand that, and I have compassion for everyone involved.
But when the Treasury Secretary stands up and says, you know what you can do to help the economy?
Get an abortion. He said, this is like an Aztec principle.
Yeah, human sacrifice.
He says, there's not a society in history that didn't practice human sacrifice.
Not one that I checked.
Even the Scandinavians, I'm ashamed to say.
It wasn't just the Mesoamericans.
It was everybody. So that's what it is.
What's the point of child sacrifice, he said?
Well, there's no policy goal intertwined with that.
It is a theological phenomenon, he said.
He said, so when the federal government, the largest human organization in human history, decides that the goal is to destroy things, destruction for its own sake, hey, let's tear it down.
He said, what you are watching is not a political movement.
It is evil. Now, when we talk about child sacrifice, I've talked about that many times in terms of talking about abortion.
I said, if you go back and you look...
At the Canaanites that were in the area as Israel comes in to that area, God told them to destroy the entire society.
God judges societies that do that to their kids.
What was happening there?
It was very interesting because it was very much like what happens with planned unparenthood.
They would have these sexual festivals, this goddess Ashtaroth, They had poles.
I don't know if they had pole dancing.
Probably did. Probably had all that stuff.
So they would have the Ashraf poles as a big sexual celebration.
And then a few months later, they would have another type of worship where they would make sacrifices for prosperity.
And you know what you needed to sacrifice for prosperity?
Your children. Perhaps those unwanted children who were left over or the product of this sexual festival that they had.
And so they would heat up these idols of Moloch without stretched arms and a lap.
They would heat it up super hot and then they would put the child on that to kill the child.
And it wasn't just in Canaan.
It was also down into the Carthage area.
And if you go down there, they have found the massive graveyards of skeletons, of babies, of child sacrifice down there.
And so God told the Israelites to destroy Canaan.
And then when Rome came, you know, they had the back and forth between Hannibal and the Carthaginians.
It was a competition, you know, that's when Hannibal invaded and, you know, took the elephants up over the Alps and all the rest of that stuff.
But you had Cato the Elder, who was an important senator.
Every time he made a speech, he would end it, oh, one more thing.
Carthage must be destroyed.
And eventually they did destroy Carthage.
Eventually he got his wish.
But I don't think it was him speaking.
I think it was God speaking through him.
I think God used the Romans to destroy these people engaged in child sacrifice.
And as Tucker says, pretty much every society has at some point degraded into child sacrifice.
And it is, in human sacrifice, and it is the final step before God comes in and wipes them out.
Where is the Aztec society today?
Gone. Where are the Carthaginians?
Gone. So, it is evil.
And we know what evil is.
And then the rest of the speech is kind of saying, well, do we know what evil is?
He says, I'm not calling for a religious war.
I'm not saying that I'm going to run.
I'm calling for a political thing.
I'm not partisan. He said, the Republicans are horrible.
I'm not backing them. He said, let's have a debate about these ideas, but they don't want to debate it.
The idea won't produce outcomes that any rational person would want under any circumstances.
Those are manifestations of some larger force that is acting upon us.
It's so obvious.
It is so completely obvious.
It is. The evil behind the globalist agenda.
The evil behind the UN. And of course you can go in and you can find the little occultic rooms that they've got at the UN and you can do reports on that and all the rest of this stuff.
But you need to understand that this globalist, this global conspiracy that transcends generations and all the rest of this, there is an evil force behind that.
That is persistent. The supernatural is above the natural.
And it is persistent.
And it is so obvious.
So completely obvious.
He's right about that.
That is what we fight.
That is what we fight.
So, where did he end it?
He said, I believed when I first started at Heritage.
I think he used to work there as an employee.
When I first started at Heritage, I believed that I could just win the debate.
And if I marshaled more facts, I found out that that doesn't work.
He said, and so maybe we should take just like 10 minutes today to say a prayer about it.
I'm curious, like, why not?
He said, and I'm saying that to you not as some kind of evangelist.
I'm literally saying that to you as an Episcopalian, the Samaritans of our time.
He said, I'm coming to you from the most humble and lowly theological position you can really, you can.
He says, I'm literally an Episcopalian, okay?
And so, even I have concluded that it might be worth taking just 10 minutes out of your busy schedule to say a prayer for the future.
And I hope you will.
Now, that's what he was doing this weekend, just a couple of days before he was fired.
Perhaps God is preparing him.
Perhaps God will use these circumstances to have him abandon any Way of guarding his speech and give people the unvarnished truth.
He's getting so close to it.
And so I hope that this is a good thing.
Could be a good thing for everyone in this society.
We need to have people who are going to speak truth.
We got enough people who are going to spin the story so that they can flatter Trump like Mark Levin.
Absolutely disgusting display.
And that's the way that it typically is.
If it's on CNN or MSNBC, they would treat Biden the same way that Mark Levin treated Trump.
We need to get out of this partisan trap.
And we need to understand what is really valuable.
And we need to understand that our solution doesn't lie in Washington, doesn't lie in the White House, doesn't lie in the Oval Office.
It doesn't lie with Trump or DeSantis or RFK Jr.
It doesn't lie with any of those people.
Our solutions lie with God.
In God we trust, not in DeSantis.
In God we trust, not in RFK Jr.
We need to take that mindset.
The common man.
They created common core to dumb down our children.
They created Common Past to track and control us.
Their Commons Project to make sure the commoners own nothing.
And the communist future.
They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary.
But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God.
That is what we have in common.
That is what they want to take away.
Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation.
They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us.
It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide.
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Okay, let's talk about RFK Jr.
And let's begin with CBDC. There's an article from mainstream media.
This is actually from Bloomberg.
And they turn or try to turn CBDC into a conspiracy theory.
Even as they talk about how people on Wall Street are concerned about it.
Now, people within the Federal Reserve, some of them are concerned about it.
Oh, it's just a conspiracy theory.
You know, they played this whole game of, you know, COVID and vaccines and all the rest of the stuff.
They played that for so long, and now they don't have that game to play anymore.
So they got to invent a new MacGuffin, if you will, right?
CBDC. They don't call it that.
MacGuffin. But that's the attack that is taken by Bloomberg.
And so they say, look, U.S. presidential hopefuls are railing against the digital dollar.
So they talk about DeSantis, they talk about Vivek Ramaswamy, and then they eventually get around to RFKJ. Bloomberg says, it is far from reality.
Some officials at the Federal Reserve have expressed doubt over the need for one.
The Fed has also said that it would want approval from Congress before moving forward with the digital dollar, but that hasn't stopped the relatively niche issue from emerging as a flashpoint for individuals who are eyeing a presidential run.
See, they're just running this thing through to, you know, get votes and things like that.
It's just a conspiracy. Nobody wants this thing.
They said the idea of a digital dollar has already faced backlash from Wall Street and other banks.
But wait a minute. Wall Street's taking it seriously.
The banks are taking it seriously enough to backlash against it.
Well, but it's just a conspiracy theory, says Bloomberg.
It's just something these demagogues are out there doing to, you know, drum up support with a hoi polloi, right?
Lenders are worried about it, acting as a direct competitor to private bank deposits.
And Congress, Republicans on Capitol Hill have introduced legislation to ban direct-to-consumer CBDCs.
Saying they could be used by the federal government to surveil U.S. citizens.
Of course, surveil everything.
But see how they present this?
They say it's a conspiracy theory, and then they start talking about all the different people.
Wall Street is opposed to it.
The bankers are opposed to it.
Politicians in Washington are opposed to it.
People are opposed to it.
Politicians. But it's just a conspiracy.
It ain't going to happen, right?
Ramaswamy, who has already announced his candidacy, honed in on anti-CBDC talking points.
He believes opposing CBDCs should be a litmus test for a presidential candidate, and it should not be controversial for any Republican.
Well, I agree with him. And so that begs the question, where is Trump on this?
Where is Trump on CBDC? Well, we know where Trump is on 5G. You know, he pushed that Vital piece of infrastructure for the smart cities and the global takeover.
He pushed that very hard. No concern there about surveillance, right?
I said when I opposed 5G, and I've opposed it for many years, way before my program started.
That's been going for five years.
But I said, look, there's two big issues with 5G. Number one, the health issue.
We already know that there's health issues with electromagnetic radiation.
Some people are a lot more sensitive to it than others.
But we already have some of the most lax regulations in terms of energy concentration of any society.
We know things like the Fry Effect, where just as some people, you know, microwaves are dangerous, right?
You can cook food with it.
Where'd they find out about that?
Well, it was microwaves in the military.
And that's why Amanda, when they came out with the first microwave oven, they called it the radar range, because it was on the radar equipment that technicians would set their coffee cup down, and then they would notice it was getting hot.
And so, with that there, the Navy commissioned Alan Fry to start doing some experiments about the biological effects.
Because, hey, if you can cook food, if you can heat up coffee, maybe you are cooking somebody internally.
And so, there's shielding requirements on the radar ranges, on the microwaves, and so forth.
But he also found, as he had one of his technicians working on it, they were working on a different frequency, they started hearing things.
That's called the Fry effect.
And it can actually, different frequencies can, you know, be picked up by your nervous system and you sense that as clicking, cricket type of sounds and things like that.
So we don't really know what these effects are.
This is a very concentrated 5G is.
It is not low power, as they tell you.
It is very concentrated. It's much, much higher than the levels that we currently have.
It is a radically different frequency, very, very high frequency.
It is also pulsed.
And so you have, if you're walking around with a phone or something like that, you have all these different line of sight antennas, and they're going to be multiplexing your signal with other signals that are out there.
So all the antennas that are in a line of sight are all going to be focused on you at one point in time.
And then they will turn off and they'll pulse onto somebody else and they keep going back and forth between everything that's around there.
So you're going to be getting very high-frequency regular pulses of this stuff at another, and the base frequency is very high.
We don't know what the health effects are.
Do you think we ought to check into it?
Trump doesn't care. He didn't care about the vaccines either, right?
And we saw the same thing with 5G. It's like, at least do some tests of this stuff before you roll it out en masse.
But of course not. But I said, that is something that needs to be tested.
We don't know. We have indications that that may be an issue, but we don't know.
So test it. Nope, not going to test it.
Well, what we do know is how it's going to be used for surveillance.
And we do know that it is the vital infrastructure for these smart cities.
But he doesn't care about that.
Do you think Trump's going to care about CBDC being used for surveillance?
And as I pointed out last week, when you look at the lockdown, I'm going to shut down...
You. You're not essential.
I'm going to shut down the small businesses on Main Street.
I'm going to shut down the small businesses, and you're going to lose your job, and you're not going to go anywhere.
But don't worry. I'll give you a check.
Well, that's nothing but communism.
That's confiscating your livelihood, confiscating your property effectively, and then putting you on a subsistence level of living.
It is basic income.
It's so basic you can't live off of it.
These people are talking about, well, $12,000 a year.
Give you a check for $1,000 a month.
That's what people that Elon Musk supported in the last one, Yang, you know, oh yeah, give people $1,000 a month.
Everybody gets it.
Look, that is communism.
Take away your property, take away your ability to work, and put you on a big welfare check and do it for everybody.
That is leveling everybody down to a subsistence level of living.
Quite frankly, socialism and communism are not new.
It was around at the time of the Founding Fathers.
Jefferson called them the levelers because they wanted to level everybody down and level society down to a subsistence level.
We'll make everybody equal.
Equal in poverty, equal in austerity, equal in the mire.
And so there's nothing new about that.
But last week when I was going over RFK Jr.'s speech, he gave the example of a small businessman who was shut down.
And he was given this little PPP, Payroll Protection Plan, from Trump.
Not just a stimulus check, but the PPP. And he said, so they gave me $17,000.
Not enough to keep his business going.
But he also had to spend it within a certain period of time.
I said, that's it. That's CBDC right there.
Because that's one of the big deals that all the central bankers have been talking about.
Yeah, we can put a time limit.
We can give people money.
Lock them down.
Give them money to keep them pacified.
That's why Elon Musk supported Yang, who was pushing UBI. Because Elon Musk and the rest of these Silicon Valley billionaires want to shut everybody down.
And then how do we keep them pacified?
Even Bloomberg has been saying that.
You know, it was misconstrued as criticism, arrogant criticism of farmers.
But what Bloomberg was talking about, and he said, yeah, anybody can do that job.
Everybody said, wait a minute.
Farmers have to wear a lot of hats, and they have to, they work really hard, but they also have to be very wise about how they marshal resources and how they use them.
It's become highly technical.
This is not something that you just wave your hand and get ready.
But that wasn't what Bloomberg was talking about.
He said, you know, we had...
An agrarian society?
And that was replaced with an industrial society?
And, you know, people could get rid of these farm workers and put them in the factories, but now we're going to get rid of the factory workers.
He said the thing that smart people like me are doing, and that's the phrase that he used, we're looking at how we can take these people's jobs.
And he said the problem with it is how do we keep people from coming after us with guillotines?
That's what he said. And so Elon Musk and Bloomberg want to give you universal basic income to pacify you.
They want to make it CBDC so they can monitor you.
And they want to use those capacities to make it expire as another element of control.
So we know where Trump is on CBDC, right?
You better put those dots together.
Then DeSantis they go to.
DeSantis has made similar claims and proposed legislation to prevent the federal government from deploying a digital dollar in his state.
Again, going in and saying the opposite of what they have quietly introduced.
They don't mention this in the Bloomberg article.
20-plus states have got legislation to prohibit crypto and to authorize a central bank digital currency as money.
You do it in the Uniform Commercial Code, UCC. And it was Kristi Noem who blew the whistle on that.
She vetoed that. She said there's another 20 plus states that have similar legislation.
Well, DeSantis did just the opposite.
He said we're going to put in legislation to prohibit CBDC and to recognize crypto.
That is wise. Anyway, the spokesperson says this is about controlling people's behavior, and he's right about that.
DeSantis said that unaccountable institutions cannot impose a CBDC on Americans.
They will tell us that CBDC won't be abused, but we're wise enough to know better.
And then they moved to RFK Jr., They said he has also emerged as a critic of the digital dollar.
In a lengthy tweet, he appeared to conflate U.S. digital cash with an unrelated Federal Reserve system known as FedNow.
Now, what Bloomberg won't tell you, I've told you many times, if you, maybe Bloomberg, ought to go look The articles that have been written by The Atlantic.
The Atlantic has been pushing this.
And The Atlantic talks about the fact that you've got almost every country on Earth is in some stage of development of a CBDC. And I forget the exact statistic, but it's something like 96% of the world's economy is represented by the countries that have jumped onto this.
And when you look at the Atlantic, and you look at their map, and they keep it updated, it's there, they keep updating this thing, they show the different stages that each of these countries are at.
And like I said, they're either in the evaluation stage, Or the trial and implementation stage.
And then when they implement it, they implement it in two steps.
The first one is the wholesale step, which is what FedNow is.
And the second one, the final one, is the retail step, which is what FedCoin is.
And so he said, well, you know, RFK Jr.
appeared to conflate FedNow with CBDC. He corrected that.
But let's understand that the wholesale stage, that FedNow is a preparation stage for FedCoin.
It's the same thing.
They said that program is scheduled to come online this year, according to the central bank officials, FedNow, and would allow U.S. banks to offer customers real-time payment services.
Which we don't need. We've already got many services that do that.
While politicians like DeSantis and Kennedy are very different people, they share a populist approach to politics.
Said a poli-sci professor.
They very much view the government with suspicion.
And as a result, it is natural for them to point to this new untested idea of a CBDC and use that as a way to galvanize their base, you see?
It's just the next stage of having something to scare people about.
They're just populist demagogues.
No, they're not. You better be afraid of this, and you better start taking preparations on your own.
I love to recommend what Tony Arterman is doing.
Why is Wolf Gold?
And he's kind enough to set up David Knight Gold so he knows that you're coming from us.
But look, gold is money, and money is the things that you hold in your hand that you can get to.
Anything that you've got in a bank or brokerage account, if you've got paper gold or paper silver, there's not any gold behind that.
And so that is a very important thing to have that outside of, you know, the system.
Even if you stockpile cash, they can say, well, we're going to issue some new bills and all these old bills are not going to be recognized.
You may be able to find in your community and in your society, maybe you'll use those old bills for your own barter system outside of their system.
But they may confiscate them.
They may treat people who have that as criminals, any of that stuff.
They may have to go underground with any or all of these things.
But again, take a look at davidknight.gold.
They go on to say, as the threat of COVID-19 has receded from public consciousness, fringe figures have begun to jump on the idea that digital dollars could be used to implement a Chinese-style social credit system in the West.
Now across the internet, CBDCs have become a metaphor for all sorts of government overreach.
See? It's just a conspiracy theory.
That's the way the mainstream media is going to try to spin this.
Blatant lies like they fed us about the pandemic and about the masks and the lockdowns and, of course, about the jabs.
They say, Kennedy Jr.
has explicitly linked his criticism of CBDCs to his widely debunked theories.
Widely debunked theories about vaccines.
Now, what's been widely debunked are the vaccines, Bloomberg.
Unbelievable. And about his positions on government power.
He says, quote, a CBDC tied to a digital ID and social credit score will allow the government to freeze your assets or limit your spending to approved vendors if you fail to comply with arbitrary diktats.
In other words, vaccine mandates.
He said that on Twitter. Bloomberg says these kind of comments have an impact on those who purport to believe them.
This isn't a theory.
It's a fact. It's already there.
It's already being rolled out.
You know, more honest, more statist, proud of the fact that people who are proud globalists like the Atlantic, they pointed out there.
But Bloomberg's position is to lie to you, to gaslight to you.
And then they quote him again.
Sorry, they quote other people who say, I need to start developing a habit of paying for everything with cash like my father does, said a user.
And so they say, and he's pro-Trump, formerly known as the Donald, with a link to RFK Jr.'s tweets.
Look, you need to understand, Trump is not with us on this.
The silence about CBDC has been deafening.
He doesn't support CBDC. He doesn't support any of these things that are vital to us.
He stands with the globalists.
He calls himself an anti-globalist, and he's called himself that so much.
And Fox News, Mark Levin, these other people called him an anti-globalist so much that people believe that lie.
A whopping 70% of people think that Biden should not run again.
He's doing very poorly in his own party.
A new poll out on Sunday from NBC News.
70% of Americans do not want Biden to run for a second term, compared to only 26% who do.
And so, you know, it's age or other things that they have a problem with.
But, you know, today he is supposed to be releasing...
His statement on video, he's not going to do it in front of a live crowd.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Too risky. You know, he might get trapped on stage, wouldn't be able to figure out which way to go to get off the stage.
We've seen that how many times, right?
So he's got a canned video thing that he's going to release today to say that he's going to run again.
And as I said at the beginning of the program, the Democrats announced it, of course, as the Washington Post announced it on Thursday, We have RFK Jr.
makes his formal announcement, does a rally on Wednesday, and on Thursday, the Washington Post announces that the, quote, National Democratic Party has said that it will support Biden's re-election, and it has no plans to sponsor primary debates.
How about that? Just shut down the debates.
Wow. This is...
I don't know. I think it's unprecedented.
I mean, even, you know, when you've got a candidate who is an incumbent who's running again, they've always in the past had debates in the primaries, but they're just going to shut it down now.
And this is why I said, when you talk about election fraud and understand that the new sloppy rules...
They were put in under Trump.
They were there because he locked everybody down.
That enabled them to not have debates at all, to not have rallies at all.
It allowed them to mail out ballots to everyone.
Some people were getting multiple ballots from multiple jurisdictions.
It allowed the ballot harvesting and the ballot stuffing and all the rest of this stuff.
It added a whole new level of corruption.
And so what did the Republicans do?
Well, they focused on What has been known to be a point of risk for a long time, and that is electronic voting.
But see, they made the mistake of focusing on Dominion and on Smartmatic alone.
Look, there's other voting machines, big voting machine companies.
ES&S, Hart, there's a bunch of large, there's at least four that are very big and a lot of smaller ones that sell electronic voting machines.
And what is the problem with that?
It's not even a theory.
We know... That anything that is computerized like that can be easily hacked.
25, 30 years ago, they were showing people coming in with a thumb drive and sticking it on an electronic voting machine.
And it didn't matter which buttons you pushed, they had already determined what the ratio was going to be.
Same thing can happen. So if you don't keep physical custody, careful physical custody of these things, that can happen.
If you connect them to the internet, it can happen.
And it can happen from a foreign source.
It can happen from people outside of Washington.
The bottom line is that people have always stuffed paper ballots.
People have always had, you know, it was legendary about the voting machines in Chicago and people driving around with these big mechanical voting machines in the back of their cars and stuff like that to rig elections.
People always cheat with elections, but what you have with electronic voting machines and computers is the capability of people being able to more easily cheat with less detection and to do it across every single jurisdiction.
And from top to bottom, from president to dog catcher, that's what's so dangerous about it.
And don't tell me that's not a possibility.
It's illustrated every year at DEF CON and Black Hat conferences in Las Vegas.
They even have Voter Village to show how easy it is to rig these things.
And you don't believe me?
Take a look at the fact that the CIA had its blueprint for how they can hack and disguise themselves as somebody else.
That was stolen from them.
There's nothing that's secure.
Pentagon personnel files were stolen.
All of this stuff can easily be hacked.
But I mention all that because I said the way that the election is rigged starts at the beginning.
Who is allowed to get on the ballot?
Since Ross Perot, they have constricted ballot access, the Democrats or Republicans have.
And access to the debates so that you're not going to get there if you're a third party or independent candidate.
You will not be in the debates. And now they're doing it so that RFK cannot participate in the debates.
Isn't that interesting? I think it is very interesting.
And he reacted to this. He slammed the DNC. He said, we've got a rigged primary.
There's going to be any debates.
They're going to move South Carolina to be the first state instead of New Hampshire.
Why? Well, because Biden did very well there.
He said, the DNC, RFK Jr.
said, the DNC at this point has taken the official position that there will be no debate.
And I think that's unfortunate.
I think what the DNC did to New Hampshire is also unfortunate.
He said in an interview with Breitbart, Joel Pollack, the senior editor, Biden didn't do well in New Hampshire, said RFK Jr.
He came in fifth.
So they took New Hampshire and they kicked it out of first place.
And now they're going to say, they're saying that they're going to completely remove the delegates from New Hampshire.
And that we should at this point in history, he said.
And of course, you know, New Hampshire is close to his home territory, the family territory there in Massachusetts, even though he lives in California, I think.
The Democrat described New Hampshire as, quote, an exemplar for American democracy.
He said it was the gold standard for election integrity since it was the gateway to the rest of the primaries for 100 years.
He says it's very cheap to campaign in it.
It has the largest independent block in the country, and people don't make their minds up until they see the candidates again and again and again, and they shake the candidates' hands five times before deciding who to vote for, said Kennedy.
They vet these candidates for the whole country.
They vet them like you would get vetted if you were running for a city council seat.
He says you have to go in and handshake people and nail salons and diners and you get grilled.
These candidates get grilled by an 80-year-old woman who reads The Economist and reads Financial Times every day.
And you know she asked questions about some arcane matter.
And then the follow-up question.
And then another follow-up question.
All these things that you'll never get from CNN or from the New York Times or the kind of soundbite culture in every other state.
The candidates can raise a billion dollars and they can take over that state, kind of an aerial bombardment, carpet bomb it with, you know, advertisements, and it's really about money.
But New Hampshire is the one place where you get to do retail politics and you cannot escape it.
So RFK Jr. says, so when you have so many Americans who are concerned about election integrity, we should be doing everything we can in our party, the Democrat Party, to show that, you know, this is not a rigged system.
That it is actually a democracy that people can run and that they can get to debate and that the public is going to be able to see them.
And that they're, that is the DNC, doing the kind of opposite of that.
He says, there's too many Americans who already think the whole system is rigged against them.
And this is confirmation of that.
And I think that that is troubling.
Again, the system is rigged with the ballots, it's rigged with the debates, and so now they're going to rig the debates internally as well, not just trying to keep independents and third parties out.
And as part of that interview, he said, there is no time in history where the people who were censoring speech were the good guys.
This is what they're afraid of.
He is a very good speaker, and he really can distill these ideas and concepts with crystal clarity.
He says, I'm wondering if you can make a pitch to our audience about a common cause that you, this is Pollock talking to him, that you, running as a Democrat, may have with many conservatives who feel that they have been canceled or otherwise censored or marginalized in public discourse.
Kennedy said, well, it's more than a personal aggrievement.
It's really just a direct assault on our democracy.
He said, in crafting the Bill of Rights, America's founders put the right to free expression in the First Amendment because all of the other rights depend upon it.
Because a government that has the power to silence its critics has license for any kind of atrocity.
He said, we're now in a situation where without free speech, democracy just withers and dies.
Yeah, take that, Washington Post.
Democracy dies in darkness?
No, democracy dies in censorship.
Free speech is the fertilizer.
It's the sunlight. It's the water for democracy.
There is no time in history where the people who were censoring speech were the good guys.
They're always the bad guys because, of course, that's the first and last step of totalitarianism.
Silencing critics.
Breitbart Pollack noted that Andrew Breitbart used to say, we always need more voices, not fewer voices.
The answer to speech that you don't agree with is more speech, not less speech.
And Kennedy said, what we really ought to be looking at is, why do we have this misinformation that they say they're so worried about?
What is the cause of this supposed blizzard and tsunami of misinformation that everybody is worried about?
And if you look at why this is happening, it's clear that it's happening because people don't trust the government anymore, and they don't trust it because the government lies, and the media lies.
22% of Americans now trust the government, and about 22% trust the media, he said.
That is the lowest level in our history.
So, you know, you can try to fool the people, but you're not going to get away with it all the time.
Tim Robbins, by the way, you know, a very liberal character.
He's now, at the very end of all these mandates, he came out in opposition to the mandates, and I was wrong.
And now he's coming out, and I like the quote that he had.
He says, Mainstream news is serving as a thuggish censorship arm of the government.
See, how did I put it?
Deputized state.
Mm-hmm. He's now broken with his fellow leftists to excoriate the mainstream news media for attacking independent journalists, including Matt Taibbi.
Michael Schellenberger, who are exposing the government's attempts to crush freedom of speech on social media.
Well, I need to take a break here.
And before I go to break, look at that.
We've got Guard Goldsmith on Rockfin out of New Hampshire.
Guard, you're not going to be able to see these candidates there.
They're trying to get rid of New Hampshire.
It's too open and honest.
Thank you so much for the tip, guard.
I appreciate it. He says, David, you've so often been a powerful voice bringing folks closer to Christ.
I hope so. I have to tell you, for the past 10 minutes, I've been writing a piece that refers to Cato the Elder and the Younger.
Good. Yeah. Carthage must be destroyed, as I quoted.
This is just one of the moments that some might call a coincidence.
But I see it as a powerful message reminding me a lot, but in particular to thank you and honor God.
Well, thank you. That's really kind.
Thank you. And by the way, you can find him, Liberty Conspiracy.
And Gard is on Substack.
I've got to get Gard on to talk.
We haven't talked for a while. And I know he's so busy.
I mean, he's doing MRCTV. He's got Liberty Conspiracy.
He's writing on Substack.
He's got his plate full.
But I'd like to get you on again soon.
Okay, we're going to take a break and we will be back.
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We'll be back.
We'll be back.
And now, The David Knight Show.
Let's talk a little bit about general news.
As we're talking about the solution, and as we look at how rigged this is, we've got RFK Jr.
I've said many times, I was so excited to see him in the debates.
I'm not saying that I would vote for him because there's big moral issues that are the elephant in the room.
Climate is also an elephant in the room.
But I really did want to have him in debates because, again, he expresses himself very clearly and comprehensively on many vital issues that will not be discussed, especially now without any debates.
And... So I thought it was very positive that he would be there because of the debate, so now they're going to shut that down.
So what is it that we can do?
Well, there's a couple of things here that I want to go over.
There is a, before I do that, let's see, Rockfin Michael says, I'd love to see RFK Jr.
take the debate stage and crush it on a few issues.
Yes, his past position on climate change and the Second Amendment and other issues as a deal breaker.
Exactly. On abortion, on the LGBT tranny, shock troops, and the rest of the stuff.
There's many things that I think would be deal breakers.
But I would love to see him talk about speech and censorship and the vaccine and CBDC and all these different things.
So that's not going to happen.
What is the path that we take?
And I have said, you know, our salvation is only from God.
We trust in God.
God can, again, you know, he's anti-war.
That's a big thing, right?
Right. They're pushing that.
They want to destroy us.
But let's understand that the president cannot really necessarily stop that.
There's a massive juggernaut, a massive amount of inertia in that juggernaut.
Turn that ship of state around.
God could do it. And so we put our trust in God, not in politicians, not in horses and chariots or planes and bombers and nuclear subs or rockets or any of the rest of that stuff.
But let's talk about what we can do, because we're not told to just passively sit here and watch things.
In Louisiana... A resolution affirming state nullification has now been introduced.
And of course, there was one like that in Tennessee.
Unfortunately, they did not make it through yet.
Hopefully, it'll be done again.
But this is a resolution affirming, quote, the sovereign right of Louisiana to nullify unconstitutional acts by the federal government.
It is sponsored by State Senator Stuart Cathay Jr., Republican.
The resolution begins by expounding on a proper view of the Constitution and its limitations on government power, writes thenewamerican.com.
Specifically via the horizontal, that is between the three branches of government and the federal, and the vertical, the states versus the federal government separation of powers.
That's the only thing about it I didn't like.
To say horizontal and vertical, Is to imply that somehow the federal government is above us?
It's not. The federal government is a creature of the states.
So if it's vertical, then maybe they're below us.
I don't know. But anyway, that's the way they talked about it.
The separation of powers in the federal government is based on the fact that sinful man could not be trusted to always be virtuous and public-minded.
They don't quote in this resolution Madison who said, well, because men are not angels, we have to have government to rule over us, but because men are not angels and put them in government, who's going to control them ultimately?
Well, it has to be done by separation of powers.
The thing that they were most concerned about was what they called consolidation.
We call it concentration of power.
And, of course, that has happened.
Power is being concentrated into Washington, and then after it got concentrated into Washington, it gets concentrated into the executive branch and its bureaucracies, which are now ruling us by fiat.
So we have taxation without representation from these unelected, unaccountable bureaucracies, and we have regulation.
Without representation. And we have no due process because they claim that their rules are not the same as laws, even though they treat them that way.
But they say, well, because it's a rule and not a law, then you don't get any of the protection of presumption of innocence.
You don't get due process.
You don't have to be found guilty before we punish you.
And you don't have any protection against excessive punishments because, hey, it's being done by the bureaucracy, not by your elected representatives.
Makes it all the more heinous, doesn't it?
And the laws of the United States or the constitutions of any of the sovereign states and is an illegal usurpation of power and of the unalienable rights of the people.
And so, again, it's a resolution.
Now, the bill that was set up in Tennessee was very specific, saying it's not going to be any rule, any regulation, any court decision, any foreign treaty that is going to be implemented in Tennessee without a review of whether or not it is constitutional.
That pretty much covered everything.
So I'm hoping that that will come back.
I need to get the guy on who introduced that.
But let's talk about what this looks like when you take back government at the local level.
That's what I've been encouraging people to do since 2020.
I said, all right. Take a look at our long history of betrayals in both parties from these politicians who campaign, whether they're running for Congress or they're running for president.
They tell you one thing, they do something completely different.
And then we had the massive betrayal.
And then we were able to see in 2020 that in some places the local government could exacerbate things or they could ameliorate things.
It could be better, it could be worse.
And so we see that the pandemic has galvanized people in one Michigan county and resulted in a complete change of government at the county level.
And the Washington Post did a very long piece.
I just referenced it yesterday, barely.
But I want to show you how they attack this.
I want to show you what galvanized the people.
And, you know, it was up on Drudge for a couple of days over the weekend.
Again, a Washington Post story.
What they do is they focus on, for once, the Washington Post is cheering the previous Republicans.
Why? Well, because they laid down and let Whitmer have her way with people, right?
as she was being financed by Trump.
And as Fauci and the rest of the Trump White House were rushing out the rules and Trump was signing the checks and Fauci was putting everybody down, they had people at the local level who were doing it.
And so these people rightfully realized that they had to push back on it.
And there is a strong current of Christianity in the people that put together this coalition to take back the government from the GOP establishment that Washington Post really hates.
And so what you're going to see here is the Washington Post Attacking their religious beliefs, vilifying them, lifting up LGBT as victims and as heroes, because they're the shock troops, and portraying these people as religious zealots, intolerant, hateful, and incompetent.
Eight new members of the Ottawa County Board in Michigan, Ran for office promising to, quote, thwart tyranny in this lakeside Michigan community of 300,000 people.
The new commissioners, all Republicans, swore their oaths of office on family Bibles.
Imagine that. You know, they didn't use a Quran or they didn't use as the NASA official.
She swore herself in on a Carl Sagan book.
Well, see if Carl Sagan can save himself or you.
The guy who was absolutely clueless.
Anyway, then the firings began, they said.
Gone was a lawyer who had represented Ottawa County for 40 years.
Gone was the county administrator who oversaw a staff of 1,800.
To run the health department, they voted to install a service manager from a local HVAC company who had gained prominence as a critic of mask mandates.
Sounds like an improvement to me.
You know, you've got somebody in the public health department that's putting out mask mandates?
Doesn't the Washington Post know, as we have pointed out, that it not only exacerbates the spread, it also exacerbates the health threats to you.
You respirate to smaller particles that go deeper.
It creates CO2 concentration issues, deprives you of oxygen, makes people sick.
You can see it literally on their face.
Trapping the waste that your body is trying to expel through your breath?
Creating acne on people's faces?
You want to tell me that a public health department that mandates a mask doesn't need to be replaced?
Yeah, this HVAC manager might be a breath of fresh air.
Huh? Anyway, they said as the session entered its fourth hour, Sylvia Rodia, the board's new vice chair, put forward a motion to change the motto of the county's website, which is also on their stationery, whereas the vision statement of the motto, where you belong, has been used to promote the divisive Marxist ideology of race and equity movement.
They wanted to change it to where freedom rings.
Because, see, you don't belong to the state.
You don't belong to the community.
You don't belong to the village.
Anyway, they write, Washington Post says, in an era when Americans had never seen more divided and distrustful, county governments at their best had helped to define what remains of the common good.
Well, maybe so, but that ended pretty much with a medical martial law.
And as I said, the county governments can make it better and they can make it worse.
So, they wanted to start on this current motto.
Where you belong versus where freedom rings.
As this lady proposed the alternative, she said, we sought to unite county residents around America's true history as a, quote, land of systemic opportunity built on the Constitution, Christianity, and Capitalism, where freedom rings.
Well, I think that's a good start.
Anyway, they said after this happened and their meeting happened, they said a cheer...
Went up in the room.
So, Washington Post is not happy about this.
They want to talk about the aftermath. They said, on that morning, the room was about three-quarters full.
But the coming weeks, it would be packed with so many angry people calling each other fascists and communists, Christian nationalists and racists, that the county would have to open an overflow room down the hall.
And that Washington Post would do a hit piece on it.
Understand that you can do this And also understand there's gonna be opposition.
And it isn't all gonna be over when the election is over.
You're going to have to stand behind these people that you elected to go do this job if you are able to get something like this done in the county level.
And I think the important thing is to understand that they did this as a group.
This is not just one individual coming in and saying, I really hate these vaccine mandates and I want to make sure that doesn't ever happen again because one individual can't do anything about it.
You're going to have to go in and change the county commissioners en masse.
And that's what they did.
All but a couple of them were replaced.
And it had to be a coordinated thing.
And I've seen this used for evil in the rural county that we lived in in North Carolina.
As I've said before, I've talked about this in the past, where you had people from liberal Chapel Hill, where the University of North Carolina is.
You had people who worked there and lived in that very, very leftist community, started coming down into the county, and they wanted to change everything.
And at the time, the county commissioners were elected representing different geographical areas around the county.
And most of the county was rural.
It was run by farmers who had had the farms in their homes for many generations.
These people wanted to take it over.
And so they got it changed to where there was an election at large.
And it was narrowly passed, but that was their key.
Once they changed it to everybody in the entire county, every voter in the county votes for every person on the county commissioner level.
That got rid of...
I usually talk about this in the context of the importance of the Electoral College and the importance of keeping that geographical representation even at the state level.
Because otherwise, you are going to be ruled by the big cities.
And every state's got big cities.
If you're talking about Tennessee, big cities are Nashville and Memphis, and they're very, very leftist.
And so...
You know, if they get enough power and enough people, they can swamp the rest of the state.
I've seen it happen in Virginia and many other places.
In Texas, you wind up with Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio.
They rule the otherwise conservative state.
And so it's a very dangerous thing.
You want to keep that geographical distribution, which is what the Electoral College was doing at the national level.
But anyway, this all began, they said, with a 37-year-old guy named Joe Moss.
Said, may the commissioners who were there, says the Washington Post, traced their roots back to the county's early Dutch settlers from whom they inherited a Calvinist appreciation for thrift and moderation.
This is the Washington Post praising GOP. They rarely spent more than a few hundred dollars on election campaigns, and they took pride in the county's AAA bond rating, fiscal discipline, and low taxes.
Under their leadership, Ottawa County prospered.
It had one of the lowest unemployment rates in Michigan, and since 2010 has been the fastest-growing county in the state.
Board meetings were civil, orderly, and until recently sparsely attended.
And now these people have come in, and they have turned the world upside down for freedom.
Imagine that. Imagine that.
Everything was wonderful until these extremists got mad about medical martial law.
That's exactly what happened.
As a matter of fact, in their article, they show a picture of this.
Somebody put up a giant syringe and said, it's not about your health.
Yeah, that's what galvanized these people there.
So, then they start talking about the connection to churches, so they can take that down.
But it really is that syringe and that medical martial law.
One guy who was there for 12 years on the board, he said, nobody ever came to any of our meetings before COVID. Well, what happened?
Well, medical martial law.
You guys laid down and rolled over For all of these orders coming from Whitmer and from Trump.
Moss, the 37-year-old who organized this, inhabited a very different world than his predecessors.
Like so many rising leaders in the Republican Party, his view of his country and his politics was shaped by his faith in his church.
One of dozens of big evangelical congregations that had taken root amid the county's sprawling farms and subdivisions.
So then they go to one of the church services and write about it.
They say people settled in their pews and they listened as their pastor warned of the, quote, many people, unquote, in the county who were, quote, trying to destroy everything that is righteous, good, and pure, and holy.
Yeah, we noticed. Tucker noticed as well, right?
What is this agenda?
You're saying that abortion is good?
You're saying that mutilation of children is good and acceptable and we ought to be honored and celebrated and protected and all the rest of the stuff?
No, that's just pure evil.
That's not politics.
That's not a policy.
You people have left your lane.
You're not talking about how to fill the potholes.
Or anything else? No, you're talking about how to destroy our lives, destroy our families, destroy parental rights, destroy children's minds, bodies, and souls.
You are out of your lane, and you need to be put back in your place and or removed.
Your job is to protect our rights.
We may have different opinions about how to do that.
But if that's not your goal, if your goal is to destroy our rights, we will alter or abolish you.
That's what needs to be understood.
Anyway, this pastor says, these are the kinds of people who are demanding free condoms at school, gender fluidity books in the public library, and drag queen story hours.
Yeah. By his own admission, Moss had not paid much attention to local politics.
He ran a small technology business focused on raising his children.
Then, in 2020, the Ottawa County Health Department learned of the coronavirus outbreak at his daughter's Christian school and ordered the school's leaders to comply with Whitmer's mask mandate.
When they refused, state and county officials chained shut the school's doors for more than a week.
And they warned parents that continued resistance could bring fines and imprisonment.
Now what is good is that the people here at this Ottawa County did something about it.
Most people took this stuff and now they're just relieved because, well, they got their boot off of our throat for a few minutes.
Really? Really? You don't think they're going to put it back on your throat?
You don't think they're going to start stomping you in the face again?
Now it's the time we need to do something about this.
I couldn't believe that Whitmer got re-elected, but at least these people took care of it at the local county level.
Suddenly, Moss realized that those dangerous people that his pastor had been talking about on Sunday were not just in Washington.
They weren't just in Lansing, the state capitol.
They were in West Olive, where the county government was headquartered.
In 2020, I became a threatened parent, he said.
I was threatened specifically by Ottawa County.
In 2021, he and Rodia formed the Ottawa Impact to recruit and raise money for local candidates who ran as a slate.
And that's what I'm saying. Running as a slate.
I saw it done in the county that I lived in by the leftists.
Turn that place into a hellhole.
But anyway, you can do it for good, right?
He saw evidence of this leftist campaign in the county health department's decision in the fall of 2021 to impose a school mask mandate on children who were still too young for the vaccine.
About a thousand people, including Moss, angrily protested the policy at a county board meeting.
See? Like the...
Like the county commissioner said, nobody ever came to our meetings before COVID. Nobody ever came to the meetings before you started acting as medical dictators and set up martial law.
He saw it also.
And the $470,000 that local corporations had donated to jumpstart a county office of diversity, equity, and inclusion.
You see? It's corporations.
And it's even local corporations.
That are putting the money in there to create this die program.
I call it diversity, inclusion, and equity.
Put it in that order and you understand.
That's how societies die.
These companies, which sold auto parts and office furniture worldwide, so they're globalist corporations and their mind mentality, they hoped that the initiative would help to attract and retain global talent to a place that was more than 80% white, And could sometimes seem unwelcoming to minorities.
That's coming from the corporations.
So, $470,000 in this place here.
Last November, county commissioners backed by Ottawa Impact won 8 out of 11 seats on the county board.
They were now in charge of a government that they feared, overseeing county employees they did not trust.
Well, they feared them because they had an authoritarian push, and they didn't trust them because of what they had done.
And so the rest of this article is about then what happens when they get in and try to take action, try to get rid of the people in charge of that public health.
This is where the fight is, and this is what's going to happen in your local community when you get together with other like-minded people, run a slate of county commissioners, take over the local government, and kick these people out.
They're not going to go quietly.
And you'll probably get a report done on you by the Washington Post.
So be it, right?
In late January, Moss came face to face with the head of a department that he saw as most responsible for trampling freedom.
The 43-year-old who was in charge of the county's health department, named Adeline Hambly, had started with the county's health department 19 years earlier as a field septic inspector.
And then in 2020, she started slinging excrement at people herself.
Why is somebody who was a septic inspector Better qualified than somebody who worked on HVAC. That's what I would like to know.
Quite frankly, I don't think so.
Anyway, Moss and the new board wanted to make it clear that the Ottawa County Board of Commissioners had a very firm stance on mandates.
They brought her in, said there will not be any mandates in Ottawa County, he told her.
And she came back and said, well, we do issue orders regularly as far as systems that have sewage on the ground.
He goes, now, I'm referring to the mandates regarding parental rights and the once-in-a-hundred-year pandemic, that kind of thing.
Again, you know, still got her head in the septic tank.
And it hit the fan, didn't it, in 2020?
Moss and the board's choice to run the county health department was an HVAC service manager with degrees from online university and no experience working in public health.
So what? This woman had proved by her experience that she was not up for the job.
And I don't care what degrees she's got.
Who cares about degrees?
It's all about diversity, inclusivity, and equity anymore.
Anyway, they denigrate merit.
They denigrate math.
Math is racist. You want to talk to me about degrees?
I don't care about your degrees.
They're about as important as the ribbons that the Wizard of Oz was handing out to people at the end of the movie.
So, Kelly had regularly pushed discredited COVID treatments such as the anti-parasitic drug Ivermectin.
Well, clearly he knows a lot more about health than this person and or the Washington Post.
So, before Moss could install Kelly, however...
He needed a reason to fire Hambly.
And so they noticed that the health department was a sponsor of a local public university's Sex Education Week, which included an event called Kinky Karaoke and also information about polyamory.
I don't even know what that is.
I don't even really care. I'm assuming that it means many loves.
You know? Kind of like politics.
Many blood-sucking parasites that you need to get out of there, especially the bureaucrats that have been there for 20 years or whatever this person was.
Hambly's office issued a press release saying their role was limited to testing for sexually transmitted diseases.
Well, just let these people fear the consequences.
Maybe that'll shut up some of this polyamory stuff.
Hambly filed a lawsuit.
This is the current public health director.
Filed a lawsuit in state court accusing the board of micromanaging the department and of illegally attempting to dismiss her without cause.
I don't know how micromanaging the department is a problem since she can't manage it.
Washington Post, of course, takes her side.
She is the victim, the wronged person.
It had been a difficult three years for Hambly and her team.
Oh, really? We don't like telling everybody what to do.
We don't like locking you down, shutting your schools, all the rest of the stuff.
First came the pandemic, then the backlash over her mask mandate and the coronavirus vaccines, which led to death threats and a police car stationed in their parking lot.
Now she's being demonized simply for doing their jobs.
Your job? No, your job.
If your job is public health, you can't have public health without individual health, and you can't have individual health without doctor-patient relationship being at the top and unfettered.
Hambly and her staff even stopped doing video conferences, worried that the new county administrator, or even Moss, might have the ability to secretly monitor them.
Do you think anybody was worried about, do you think that they were concerned about forcing everybody to stay home and do video conferences with their lockdowns?
Do you think people might have been secretly monitoring us as they locked us down?
You talk about projection and all of this stuff.
Absolutely amazing. Yeah.
I'm sure they thought about that because, you know, that's what the government and the corporations wanted there.
A former teacher at a Christian school spoke, and so now what they do is they focus now on the LGBT versus the Christians aspect.
That now is put at the center of the article by the Washington Post.
I say, a former teacher at a Christian school spoke of how his commitment to biblical literalism had nearly led to his gay son's suicide.
He assumed that even Jesus didn't love him, said the man.
He had the pills lined up twice, ages 14 and 20.
If he had committed suicide, I would have been complicit in his death.
You see, Jesus doesn't save.
Jesus kills people. What is the guy teaching him about Christianity?
Did you teach your son that Jesus, that God has a better plan for your life, that you'll be happier in the design that he had for your life?
A man and a woman and children and a family?
You didn't tell him that that would make him more fulfilled?
You didn't tell him that no matter what he has done, Christ paid the penalty and there's grace and forgiveness?
And not only that, but there is power to change your life.
You didn't tell him that? You let him sit there.
You probably sent him to a psychologist, didn't you?
Psychologists probably gave him the SSRI pills and he's got them lined up to commit suicide.
Then they had an ordained minister in a pink down coat rose to speak a few minutes later.
Again, it's the LGBT, the victimized LGBT against everybody else.
She, the ordained minister, is a woman.
She gripped both sides of the lectern and leaned toward the microphone and said, quote, I am sick to death of all this Jesus talk.
Well then, lady, you are not a minister in any way, shape, or form.
Yeah, I'm sick of all the Jesus talk, says the minister.
Yeah, let's talk about genitals.
Let's do that. That's going to help us, yeah.
So they said whether the newborn had the authority to remove her for political rather than public health reasons is the issue.
And again, this is the basis of the lawsuit, and this is the one thing I would criticize about what these people have done.
Look, attacker for the fact that the masks were wrong...
Attack her for the fact that they did the lockdowns.
They've all been disproven.
You've got the studies that other people have done for you now.
We knew this from the beginning that it was nonsense.
But now the studies are there.
We can see how the vaccines were harmful.
The masks were harmful. The lockdowns were harmful.
The lockdowns are driving people to suicide.
The Washington Post isn't going to tell you that.
No. No.
It's the Bible that drove her son to suicide?
No. Anyway, the hero of the story, the public health director, Washington Post's hero, says, I'm not a Democrat or Republican.
I'm not a Libertarian or any of those things, and your health officers shouldn't be.
They should be following good science, and they should be protecting everyone in their community.
Well, there you go. That's the basis to fire her right there, because she didn't do any of that.
Earlier this month, though, the judge ruled that Hambly was properly appointed to the job.
And could only be removed if the new board could show how she was incompetent.
That really should not be that hard.
And that really is where they need to go.
We're going to take a quick break.
And when we come back, I want to talk about what happened with the SpaceX launch.
And some of the aftermath of that.
And when I say aftermath, I mean aftermath.
We'll be right back. You're
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Okay, so it was on 420, and a lot of people had fun with that.
They said, yeah, Musk lit a big one on 420 and blew up like an exploding cigar or joint, I guess.
Did they do that? They have exploding joints like they do cigars?
Anyway, the craft was sent into a tailspin when they failed to have separation between the booster rockets and the starship.
The mission ended at about four minutes into it, and as they described it, it was rapid, unscheduled disassembly.
That's kind of Pentagon-speak, military-speak for all this stuff.
But they were cheering at the mission control because it got off the launch pad.
So I guess, you know, success is how you define it, right?
Some people are criticizing him for it.
Futurism says that Elon's childish obsession with 420 lead to today's Starship explosion.
But I think more importantly is the fact that he rushed it out.
And we'll see some of the consequences of that.
Not just in the thing having a rapid unplanned disassembly or whatever they call it.
It was very big.
Huge, as a matter of fact.
If you look at it, compared to the previous giant Saturn V rockets...
It was 394 feet.
The Saturn V rockets were 363 feet, so it's another, you know, 30 yards more.
So instead of it being 30 feet more, instead of it being 110 feet, It was 120 meters.
Or if you think of it in terms of football field, the Saturn V, if you lay it down on its side, would be the full length of the football field plus one end zone.
The Starship and the Super Heavy booster would be football field plus both end zones.
And a little bit more.
And the amount of thrust that it had was quite a bit different.
If you look at the Saturn 5s, they had 7.2 million pounds of thrust.
But the Starship and the Super Heavy have 17 million.
So 7.2 million versus 17 million.
That's about two and a half times more.
So it's pretty amazing.
And it's not just about what happened in terms of the failure to separate.
It's also what happened on the ground.
Take a look at this debris that hit a car that was parked quite a distance away from it.
Look at this. Watch this. Look at that.
Took out the back window and smashed that car and shook that car.
Pretty amazing. I'll play that one more time.
Take a look at this. Bam!
That whole car shakes and a big piece of concrete.
That could have killed anybody.
Who was around there, and of course there's a lot of people who are very upset about what happened in the nearby town.
In the close town, the city is annoyed when SpaceX launch, coats it in a layer of grime.
They said the locals here are just being sacrificed.
So they said the most powerful rocket that's ever been built, the massive forces from the takeoff heaved a colossal cloud of dust and debris that traveled for miles.
And they said some of the local residents there at Port Isabel, that place where they're launching it is Boca Chica, Texas.
But at Port Isabel, they said that, which is only six miles away, We're good to go.
So the whole city, quote, ended up with a covering of a rather thick, granular sand grain.
And of course, the video of that car getting nailed by a piece of debris that I think could have killed somebody the way that smashed up the back of that car and shook it.
There were bowling ball-sized pieces of concrete that came flying out of the launch pad area.
Is that a YouTuber? And who also said that the launch created a crater that he estimated to be 25 feet deep.
The New York Times talked to Eric Roche, an expert in environmental compliance.
He said it's impossible to know whether the dust and the debris are harmful without a proper chemical analysis, but the fact that there's even dust at all, he said, shows that SpaceX screwed up in its impact modeling, as this kind of aftermath was not really disclosed to the public, he said. As it turns out, the far-reaching aftermath of the Starship launch could have been avoided entirely, but SpaceX simply hadn't taken the necessary steps to do so.
A decidedly callous move towards the people that live in the area.
For sizable spaceports like Cape Canaveral and the Cosmodrome that the Russians have, it is standard practice for big launches to have either a giant trench or Or what is known as a water deluge system, which suppresses heat and sound waves, both for the rocket's sake and for the purpose of shielding the surrounding environment.
But according to Roche, SpaceX opted to implement neither measure.
It appears they just went ahead and just launched this thing.
Well, you know, it was 420. We've got to get it out by 420.
And of course, do you really think that Elon Musk cares about anybody or anything other than what he's doing?
I don't. As a matter of fact, I was truly amazed.
Another blessing from God that we did not know that he had bought large amounts of land for SpaceX offices, but also for the boring company and stuff like that.
Not too far from where he lived in Texas.
Very, very close, as a matter of fact.
And bought a great deal of land there.
And the neighbors are already concerned about some of the things that are being done during the construction phase of it.
But we didn't know anything about that.
We were able to get out of there before he took that area over.
Starship's launch was tied up for a long time by the FAA. And when they finally gave SpaceX its approval, it ruled that a Starship launch would not significantly affect the quality of the human environment.
We'll tell the people of Port Isabel who are covered in dust and rocks now.
NASA Space Flight, a publication, reports that the company will be installing a deluge system beneath the launch site for future launches.
Because I guess they don't have to do them by 420 now.
Depending on who you ask, SpaceX's Starship launch was either a spectacular failure or it was a rousing success.
To some nearby residents on the ground, though, it simply proved to be a potentially dangerous nuisance.
The locals are here or just being sacrificed, said one person to the newspaper.
Let's talk about who's being sacrificed to who.
I mentioned before Biden's new plan to charge people a higher interest rate on their home loans if their credit score is high, and to charge people a lower rate if their credit score is low.
In other words, to punish people.
And that's exactly what's happening.
It isn't like they said, okay, well, here's the current mortgage rate, okay, and we'll give a discount to people if they have bad credit.
Well, why would you do that, first of all?
You're setting these people up to be trapped?
Right as the market is, interest rates are going up, and the housing market is, people are getting trapped in their homes, being underwater.
So you're going to set these people up to get trapped?
Is that what this is about? But it would be one thing if you left the mortgage rate there for the people who had good credit scores and then gave a discount to other people.
But no, what they did was they raised the mortgage rate for people who had good scores.
They want to. At the same time, they're discounting it for other people.
This is coming from mishtalk.com.
He said, the new rules on the mortgage rates were the better your score, the higher your effective interest rate.
This is an update. Under the new rules, high credit buyers with scores ranging from 680 to above 780 will see a spike in their mortgage costs with applicants who place 15% to 20% down payment experiencing the biggest increase in fees.
So not only do they charge you more if you've got good credit, But if you saved for your deposit, you know, as a down payment, if you save money for your down payment, you're penalized for that as well.
So let's penalize people who are working hard, saving, We'll punish them and we'll reward the people who don't do anything.
We want to talk about the ant and the grasshopper thing?
This is socialism.
This is Biden's socialism.
Fannie Mae has a matrix showing how they're going to adjust the price.
A loan level price adjustment matrix.
Punish the people who are working hard and reward the people who are not.
Someone with a credit score between 720 and 739 with a 20% to 25% down payment.
It's going to go from an LLPA of a half a percent before May to one and a quarter percent.
A three-quarter point difference.
Raise it. The beneficiaries are those who have the worst credit ratings.
A drop...
From 3.25% to 2.5% for someone with a credit score between 640 and 659 and a down payment of 20 to 25%.
So he says, you don't think that people are going to notice a 75 basis point jump?
A penalty for your good credit and working hard and saving.
Everyone with a credit score 680 and over is dinged.
And everybody with a credit score below 680 is a winner.
So what is the average credit score in America?
710. So the average person is going to get dinged by this.
The people who are below average are going to get helped by it.
So 710 is the average score, but 680 is the point where you go from winners to losers.
And then the more, you know, the better your credit score, the bigger the loser you are.
Experian notes that only 35% of consumers have a credit score below 680.
So it's going to be the bottom 35% of people are going to get rewarded, and the top 65% of people are going to get punished.
That's Biden's America.
This is a Pandora's box that once opened will usher in all sorts of nightmares, writes Adam Taggart on Twitter.
Combine this with the recent California Dream for All home buying assistance program funded by taxpayers and the Marxist trend toward to each according to his need is becoming clearer and clearer.
And so, Steph Pomboy on Twitter says, This rule imposes fees on homebuyers with high credit scores in order to subsidize access to lower quality credit.
It's so obviously misguided and, all uppercase, dangerous.
It makes you wonder what the real objective is here.
Why does Steph call it dangerous?
Because now is the time to encourage stretched would-be homeowners to enter the market.
It's almost as if they want to drown people in negative equity.
Or maybe to further weaken the banking system to allow for a larger takeover.
I'm honestly lost.
Well, that may very well be it.
To weaken the financial system.
We're talking about, again, Gerald Salenti has been talking about Commercial real estate.
And it's now really hitting home.
And I talked about the fact last week, it's like $120 million default, this big commercial real estate company in Washington, D.C. I mean, if you can't sell office space in Washington, D.C., you might as well hang it up.
Because, you know, that's where everything is growing.
They may not have to go into work.
Maybe they can work from home.
But still, the problem in California, It was even bigger.
It was about three quarters of a billion dollars that they lost there, not 120 some odd million.
That same commercial real estate company.
And so what happens is, you know, we talked about on Friday with Gerald Slenty, what happens when these big, very big commercial real estate companies go bankrupt?
Well, again, it puts more stress on the banks and the financial markets.
What happens when they incentivize people coming in who got very, very poor credit?
And punish people who've got good credit, who can't afford to buy the house?
Well, again, if they get people in their negative equity, maybe they are setting the banking system up to fail.
You know that they set the banking system up to fail.
Take a look at what the Federal Reserve did in terms of raising interest rates.
You know, we've seen this once before, right before the 2008 Great Recession.
You had the Federal Reserve at that point in time, every month they're going up 25 basis points, a quarter of a percent, and it's just like a little stair step going up.
This time, they're taking big leaps and bounds every month going up three times faster, 75 basis points.
They've never raised interest rates that far that quickly.
And what they did was they set up a trap for the banks who had bought in, had to buy in, To the federal funds, I mean, you know, they set it up and incentivized it, so they had to invest in these, you know, Fed funds and bonds and things like that.
They couldn't unload them quickly.
The Treasury bills, they couldn't unload them quickly enough because they're raising it so fast.
So they're doing this by design.
They're trying to destroy ourselves.
What kind of a policy is that?
You're not trying to fix things, you're trying to bust things.
So, Is this screw job on mortgage pricing even legal?
He asks at Mischtock.
He says, yes, we have graduate income taxes, and that is legal.
We also have adult prices versus kids' prices for numerous things.
We have things like senior citizen days.
But can we legally charge somebody more for a loaf of bread if they make too much money?
Similarly, can we unjustly penalize people because their credit score is too good?
Well, again, this is just, all this stuff is just another bonus for our overlords with their CBDC to eviscerate the middle class.
All this stuff. From Trump's you're not essential stuff to this, to Biden doing this.
And he points out that in California, you have the utility companies, as I mentioned, are going to start charging people not on the amount of electricity that they use, but they're going to charge people based on their income.
California utilities seek to charge people based on income, not energy usage.
Monthly bills in California will include a fixed charge based on household income.
This is nothing other than a Marxist agenda.
So this will be a legal test, but assuming that this bill passes, that's what their objective is.
So we're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, I want to talk about what is happening in Afghanistan, the Taliban, and that other reason that we were there for a long time, lithium.
There's been some big developments in that as well.
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Because, basically, you can't hold coffee with your hands, right?
I'm a Itzcatelay, but anyone tries to mug me, I'm being ready for it, you dog-faced pony soldier!
They say the mug can help patriots drink coffee, then save the world.
This could be bad for us.
Save the world? But we owe the world.
These people, they're supporting free speech with every mug they buy.
Come on. These people...
I tell you...
Well, anyway. You're listening to The David Knight Show.
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The SpaceX launch equals success.
That's it. That's what NPR said.
No, I'm not joking.
They just repeated what SpaceX told them to say.
Well, yeah, that's it. You know, they said if we can get off the launch pad, that's a success.
So it doesn't matter how much money.
Have you heard anybody talk about the climate footprint of this?
You know, Elon Musk has made a lot of his money off of pushing the green agenda.
A lot of money pushing that everywhere with electric cars and stuff.
Why doesn't anybody complain about the footprint of this thing?
We're talking about 17 million pounds of thrust.
That's a lot of gases.
How much carbon dioxide is that?
How much are the rest of the stuff? Oh, of course, that's special.
That doesn't apply. We just had over the weekend, people who were in northern latitudes saw this blue spiral up in the sky.
And they said, what is that?
This is, I think, the second time I've seen this.
And what it was is something that was being jettisoned from one of the SpaceX satellite launches.
It was some fuel. That was jettisoned out, and it froze, as they put it out, but it was gigantic.
And because of physics involved, it came out as a big spiral arm.
So that was the thing that was really amazing about it.
It wasn't just this big blue thing up there, but it was this spiraling arms coming out from a center.
Nobody cares about that.
Nobody cares about the environmental impact of that or the launches or the missiles in Ukraine.
Nobody cares about any of that stuff.
So let's talk about what's going on with the Taliban.
How were they doing after all that money we left behind for them and weapons and all the rest of the stuff?
Well, now China is offering them $10 billion To have access to lithium.
And what they're doing is they are, this happened after you had a couple of Chinese nationals who were caught by the Taliban, arrested, because they were trying to smuggle out 1,000 metric tons of lithium.
And so that's a pretty big haul there.
Pretty hard to disguise that, I guess, but they busted him on that.
And so that was a couple of months ago.
And so now, since they figure they can't just load it up on the truck and steal it that way, China has offered the Taliban $10 billion and is proposing to build strategic infrastructure, you know, part of the Belt and Road Initiative.
But just consider how different this is.
As Gerald Sunti has pointed out many times, you look at what does the American government do anymore.
They go in and they dominate with war, kind of a neo-colonialism.
The Chinese are going around, even though this Belt and Road Initiative, in many cases, has been an infrastructure and debt trap for these people.
They go in and say, well, we're going to build this for you, and here's a great price on it.
They go into debt, and it doesn't work.
So, you know, it's not like the Chinese are good guys or anything.
But they're going to be a lot more successful if they go into places and partner with people and at least say that they're going to build infrastructure, whether or not it works or not, rather than what we do, which is go into an area, bomb, kill people, and occupy it by force.
That's our approach to all of this.
As Gerald says, you know, the business of America is war and the business of China is business.
And that's a big difference right now.
Of course, it's going to change as they move.
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So, when you look at this, I think it is...
Kind of interesting how history goes.
We had the opium wars.
China was very upset about that.
They said the British were smuggling opium in, using it to oppress their population and everything.
Look at how the tables have turned.
Now the Chinese are sending us fentanyl.
The Chinese...
Are getting access to Afghanistan, where they have the opium fields and everything, but they're really there for the lithium.
And I think that was one of the reasons why we had the Pentagon saying, well, we're going to be there for 20 years.
We had no plans of ever leaving Afghanistan.
So they didn't plan to leave.
They were thrown out. But when you look at, they said one analyst who was with the Americans in Afghanistan, It says, geopolitically, this deal could give China a significant advantage and influence the region as it secures a supply of critical resources and strengthens its presence in Afghanistan.
So this person, Sadat, is not happy about what the Chinese are doing because he was with the Americans.
Afghanistan's lithium reserves potentially rival those of Bolivia, which has the world's most significant amount of lithium resources.
It'll provide direct employment to 120,000 people and indirectly to 1 million people.
Whoa! This could have a big impact on how you're going to keep these guys on the opium farm.
When, you know, growing poppies, when they could go spend their lives choking on lithium dust or something in a lithium mine, right?
Why didn't the U.S. think of this?
Why didn't the U.S. just, oh, we've got to keep them out there growing the poppies for the opium because, you know, that's all they do for a living.
And, you know, it never occurred to them that they'd just give them money to not grow it.
I mean, we've been, since the time of FDR, we've been paying people to not grow corn or whatever.
This is a Supreme Court case challenging FDR's New Deal and all the rest of that stuff.
By the way, that's one of the other things that I didn't talk about that bothered me about RFK Jr.'s speech.
He is a Democrat, and he was saying, yeah, we need to get back to the days of FDR. And it's like, stop right there.
Stop right there. The whole idea...
And it was taken up to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court overthrew it.
The guy said, you can't tell me what I can grow and the prices that I can charge for this stuff.
I'm not shipping it across state lines.
You don't have any jurisdiction here.
And he was absolutely right. But the Supreme Court overruled and sided with FDR. They said, no, even if you grow your corn and you sell your corn internally, Well, that's still covered by the Commerce Clause because that's going to affect the price of corn everywhere.
And they use that as a legal prevarication to say they can regulate drugs, marijuana, and all the rest of this stuff.
Well, they don't have any jurisdiction to do that.
They don't have any constitutional authority to do that.
And we know they don't. Because even at the time of FDR and the rest of these people, they realized that they needed to have a constitutional amendment to prohibit alcohol and another one to bring it back, the 18th and the 21st Amendment.
So that was a legal prevarication if there ever was one.
Anyway, getting back to Afghanistan.
The case of Afghanistan. The country is important for China.
Because the land domain of the Belt and Road Initiative will pass through its region and a peaceful Afghanistan will create favorable conditions for the Belt and Road Initiative to grow and to progress.
You see, they would like to have economic progress.
They'd like to have peace in that area.
They would like to have the lithium. What do we do?
Again, We go in and we bomb and we kill and we steal.
We're stealing oil in Syria.
We've occupied Syria and we're stealing oil.
And of course, it only becomes an issue when a rocket comes in, injures some U.S. soldiers and kills a contractor.
And people say, that's outrageous.
These Syrians just killed Americans.
Why are the Americans there?
Stealing the oil. The Taliban may view it as an opportunity to generate immediate revenue to fund their activities and to consolidate their power, given their history of relying on various sources of illicit financing, such as drug trafficking, said Sadat.
Are we talking about the Taliban?
I forgot. Are we talking about the Taliban or the CIA? Illicit financing?
Drug trafficking? Isn't it the CIA? The CIA is a much bigger worldwide threat to everybody, including Americans, and the Taliban is.
Much bigger threat.
The Taliban didn't collapse those buildings.
The CIA probably wanted an excuse to go on to Afghanistan and start...
You know, operating the poppy fields.
I don't know if they had lithium on their mind or not.
Lithium is, of course, the battery, the key thing in the battery now.
It will not contribute to the overall socioeconomic development, he says, or to the stability of the country with certainty.
This is what Sadat says, the guy who worked with the American government.
But the U.S. occupation did that?
We were there for 20 years.
We left a mess for 20 years.
Five Chinese companies have set up their representative offices in Afghanistan.
About 20 Chinese companies have made inquiries about lithium products.
China's two largest lithium miners have already examined the lithium mines in Afghanistan.
And, of course, they're making moves in other areas as well.
When you look at what is happening in South America, we've just had the Chilean president has announced that the nation's vast lithium industry will be brought under government control in an effort to boost the economy and protect the environment.
Oh, of course. You know that the government does the best job of protecting the environment, right?
Does it? I don't think so.
And, of course, this is, he says, future lithium contracts...
Will only be issued as public-private partnerships.
This is straight out of Davos.
And this is the same with state control.
This is the same kind of public-private partnership.
You've got to have a partner and the government that you bribe, you know?
This is straight out of Davos.
This is fascism.
Corporate cronyism, corruption, that's what public-private partnerships are.
And yet, it's presented as a virtue, as a way of getting things done.
That's how we've got to do our roads now in Tennessee, according to Governor Lee.
We've got to have public-private partnerships for toll roads.
Really? Why? Public-private partnerships have always been corruption and crony capitalism.
It's no different in Tennessee than it is in Afghanistan.
So they said, the best chance we have at transitioning to a sustainable and developed economy.
And we can't afford to waste it, so we're going to have public-private partners.
This guy who's running Chile is just reading the script from Davos.
So they said, neighboring countries of what they call the Lithium Triangle.
Chile, Argentina, Bolivia...
The governments have been looking for greater public sector stake in the mining of the metals.
Just like these corrupt officials in New York, you know, you gotta let me wet my beak here, you know?
Just give me a little bit of money on the side, I'll let you in there.
They call it stakeholder capital.
Yeah, we gotta have a stake.
In the mining, stakeholder capitalism, crony capitalism, economic fascism.
It is the business model of the globalists.
It's the business model of China.
And, of course, in Central and South America, same thing.
It's happening there. And so we're turning over, you know, instead of people fighting for oil as much, they will be fighting now, I guess, for lithium in addition.
Maybe not even instead of.
And China... They are pushing very, very hard for EVs and their kind of eco-fascism.
Domestic electric vehicle brands are driving change across the sector.
They're actually, in China, they're serious about it.
They're actually making some affordable products Small, cheap, electric cars because, you know, they're not regulating those things out of existence.
And when we talk about regulating things out of existence, the Biden administration has now taken a new unprecedented tact in terms of destroying our country and taking everything down.
They've been going, after I talked about how the so-called Environmental Protection Agency has really become the Emissions Prohibition Agency.
You know, that was their mission creep.
You know, they began by saying, we're going to focus on pollution, but now they're focused on prohibition.
And now, under the Biden administration, for the first time, the EPA is going to flex its muscle, To shut down power plants because of emissions.
They've never done this before.
And it's the EPA. We've got to kill the EPA before the EPA kills us.
It is an existential fight to shut down this climate stuff.
And again, that's why I can't support RFK Jr.
He's totally involved in this stuff.
And it isn't going to slow down.
It would probably accelerate underneath him.
So the Biden administration is preparing major crackdowns on power plants.
The new power plant rule is, quote, the latest in President Biden's anti-fossil fuels agenda, says an energy industry group.
They're finalizing a proposal because we don't write laws anymore.
We create an agency like the EPA and they write the rules.
They put them out there and people get a chance to talk about it.
But, you know, they don't care what you have to say.
And then what they will do is impose this on everybody.
The proposal, which will soon be released by the Emissions Prohibition Agency, the EPA, is expected to require coal and natural gas-fired power plants to cut or capture the vast majority of their carbon dioxide emissions in 2040.
What are you going to do with it?
You can stick it in the ground. So the plants can't get it, right?
If it's in the atmosphere, the little bit of CO2 that is there, and again, it is a very, very tiny amount, tiny fraction of 1% of the atmosphere is CO2. And that includes all of our quote-unquote man-made sources.
Very, very tiny percentage.
But it is vital for plants.
That's what they survive on.
It is not a pollutant.
And we don't need, the environment does not need to be protected from CO2. The environment thrives on CO2. But they're going to sequester it.
They're going to pump it into the ground to basically shut down the natural cycle there.
It is the first ever federal action to curb emissions from power plants.
It is a power play.
By the Emissions Prohibition Agency, the EPA. So they said, we've been clear from the start that we will use all of our legally upheld tools grounded in decades-old bipartisan laws to address dangerous air pollution, they said. They must be shut down.
Carthage must be destroyed.
The EPA must be destroyed.
It is an existential threat to us.
It doesn't matter if you get electric cars.
They're going to shut down the power grid.
And that's been the plan all along.
We're going to have electric cars that don't have as much of a range.
You don't have the infrastructure.
You don't have the charging infrastructure.
But even more importantly, you're not going to have the capacity to put the juice out there to the chargers.
And of course, you're not going to be able to afford these EVs.
And even if you could afford it, you're going to pay dearly for it because you're going to have to buy it from the Chinese and from our enemies.
The whole thing is designed to take us down.
CO2 is not pollution.
It is not warming.
Is there going to be anybody in the GOP who will oppose this, or will they just try to slow it down?
The final rule will be that this rule is coming out spring, they said, of this year, right now.
They will promulgate, in that special, such a special, we will promulgate a final rule.
Oh, I'm very impressed.
E pluribus unum.
A final rule by summer 2024.
There are no EPA regulations on the books limiting emissions from existing electric generating units.
There are 3,393 fossil fuel-fired power plants nationwide.
Oh, really? Fossil fuel behind.
There is no shortage of this stuff.
The CIA was pushing all of that peak oil stuff.
And they pushed it really hard with the OPEC shutdown.
And they're pushing it really hard with the Biden sanctions shutdown now.
There's no such thing as peak oil.
You can get oil from any organic material.
It's not dinosaurs in the ground.
The majority of these power plants are natural gas.
Those power plants generate more than 60% of the nation's electricity compared to 14% of electricity that is generated by wind and solar combined.
Okay, so that remaining 26%, so 60% for natural gas, 14% for wind and solar, and That means that coal and oil are another 26%.
And maybe nuclear is in that.
I don't know if they excluded that.
I think they were talking about the fossil fuel quote-unquote stuff.
But it could be nuclear, it could be hydro as well in that mix.
The EPA data shows that the electric power sector accounts for about 25% of U.S. emissions.
Placing it behind only the transportation sector and slightly ahead of the industrial sector.
Weren't we just told that agriculture is the big boo-boo out there?
We've got to shut that down, right?
So we've got to shut down your food, shut down the way that you cook it.
Oh, but now it's the power plants.
Whatever the MacGuffin is, Or the monster of the week is.
We've got to shut that down, according to Biden.
So, we can't decide.
Is it the transportation sector that's got to go first?
Or the food sector?
Or the industrial sector?
Or maybe the power generation sector?
Let's just shut them all down.
I just can't decide. Let's shut everything down.
Democrat lawmakers argue that the emissions must be reduced in an effort to stave off cataclysmic climate change.
Says Fox News, without any pushback.
Oh, well, they say, I guess it's true.
Yeah. Biden pledged to enable the nation to achieve an up to 52% total emission reduction by 2030 and to create a carbon pollution-free power sector by 2035.
Again, would RFKJ oppose this?
I don't think so. And, you know, when we look at what Fox may become, is Fox going to get rid of all their commentators so they don't get any lawsuits or anything?
If they do, you can expect their quote-unquote objective news to just blindly quote without any commentary or opposition.
What the EPA is saying, what the Democrats are saying, just regurgitate it, you know, because that's fair and open, right?
So they do have a hearing on Capitol Hill with the EPA, and as the Epoch Times points out, senators question the The feasibility of the EPA's new vehicle emission standards.
Because, again, they have ramped them up to the highest level ever with the intention of shutting down all cars with internal combustion engines.
Now, that was just last week.
So now this week, we've got a new target.
This week, we come after the power stations that you thought you were going to run your electric cars off of, right?
So, the EPA is very excited.
They told the senators that they predict that this new regulation that they have It's going to lead to the mass adoption of electric, light, and medium-duty vehicles within a decade.
How do they know? Do they have a design for how they're going to make this feasible?
How are they going to produce these things at an affordable cost?
How are they going to get the materials to do all this stuff?
They don't care. They think that they can change the world with their rules.
They can't change the world.
They can't make stuff out of nothing.
But they can destroy what you've got.
That's what makes them dangerous.
That's what makes them an existential threat.
And the person who was leading this subcommittee chair, none other than Ed Markey, who when he was a congressman 10 years ago, 12 years ago, no, let's say 11 years ago, 2012, Ed Markey and Lisa Jackson, who was then the head of the EPA under Obama, who got kicked out because she was using aliases on her email to...
You know, to secretly communicate with people and get around the transparency laws and stuff.
But she and Ed Markey had worked up this little dog and pony thing where they said, we've got to shut down fine particulate matter 2.5.
2.5 nanometers and bigger.
And more people are dying from this, Congressman Markey, that are dying from cancer and heart disease.
Or even COVID, right?
That's the usual thing.
More people are dying from COVID than from heart attacks or cancer.
More people are dying from fine particulate matter from diesel and from fireplaces and things like that.
We've got to shut all this stuff down.
And so they set up right there where I was.
They set up in Research Triangle Park with the big EPA facility there.
They set up an experiment. They looked for people who had heart issues and respiratory issues, and they literally hooked them up to a tailpipe and gave them diesel particulate matter.
They took out the carbon monoxide so they didn't kill them outright.
And then hook them up so they could show how dangerous this stuff was.
And Markey was doing that as a congressman.
Now they have promoted him to a senator and they put him in charge of this committee where they're still shoveling the excrement for the EPA. Strong proposed regulations are critical, he said, to driving climate progress forward.
But they're more doable than ever thanks to the billions in clean vehicle investments passed by Congress, he said.
It got a little bit of pushback from two Republicans, Senator Cynthia Loomis from Wyoming and Kevin Kramer from North Dakota.
They expressed skepticism.
Oh, it must have been withering criticism, right?
Are you kidding me?
You expressed skepticism, not outrage about this?
Loomis asked one key witness, said, what about the tailpipe emissions?
That's not the only thing that's out there.
You know, there are greenhouse emissions from the mining that is needed and from the transportation of these rare earth minerals from places that we don't have any control over.
So they had Kathy Harris of the National Resources Defense Council said, well, there have been many studies that have shown that electric vehicles today from well to wheel are still cleaner than compared to gasoline vehicles.
Well, not true.
As a matter of fact, India is allowed to have unregulated power plants.
Why is that? Why is China allowed to build as many power plants with no regulations on them as the EPA shuts ours down?
It's so bad in India that if you have a car that gets 36 miles per gallon, somewhere in the mid-30s, that it is cleaner than electric car runoff of their factories because their electric production is so unregulated.
And that's part of the Paris Climate Accord.
And so here's the problem, see?
If you've got people like Cynthia Loomis...
Who is going to say, you know, try these types of things.
If you play by their game, well, wait a minute.
Aren't the emissions worse on EVs than they are on, you know, or equivalent or whatever?
Don't play that game. Don't argue with them about how many unicorn farts fit on the head of a pen.
If you do that, you're going to lose.
You got to hit them head on.
You got to say CO2 is not a pollutant.
CO2 is also not warming the earth.
End of story. So why are you shutting down our transportation and our power generation and our food production and our industry all at the same time over this fantasy?
Instead, you get questions like this.
You know, well, do any of these countries have anywhere near the stringent environmental regulations that the United States has?
Well, Harris says to the senator, I can't really speak to that.
Not to my awareness.
Well, what do you do? You scored a little bit of a point there.
What difference does that make?
Is that going to save us from these people?
Then Kevin Cramer, North Dakota.
Question another witness.
Boyle is co-president of the trucking company, Boyle Transportation.
He was brought in as a witness that was going to be hostile to these EPA regulations.
Trucking company. It earlier testified to the risks of a rapid push for electric-powered trucks because of their current technological limitations.
He said a clean diesel truck can spend 15 minutes fueling anywhere in the country and then have a range of about 1,200 miles before fueling again.
In contrast, today's long-haul battery electric trucks have a range of 150 to maybe 330 miles and can take up to 10 hours to charge.
And so then he asked him about the cost of insurance of a large electric truck, you know, maybe for fire or something like that.
Look, we know all of these things.
Stop playing the game of the climate MacGuffin.
And that's one of the things that's dangerous about RFK Jr.
He plays that game.
He literally believes that game.
He would have locked people up who denied that it's a problem.
People like me. Maybe he's learned.
I don't know. I haven't heard him address it.
Well, that's it for today's show.
Thank you for listening.
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