Georges St-Pierre critiques media narratives on the Iran war and COVID-19, recounting a UFO encounter in Albuquerque where a green triangular orb defied known aircraft. He discusses Bob Lazar's potential MK Ultra memory manipulation regarding Zeta Reticuli craft and warns against AI-generated misinformation like dubbed Hitler speeches. The conversation shifts to WWII tactics involving German methamphetamine use and modern military doping, before St-Pierre details his intermittent fasting regimen for ulcer colitis. Finally, he explores the Great Pyramid of Khufu, citing tool marks and personal vibrations in the King's Chamber to support theories of ancient power harvesting over traditional tomb functions. [Automatically generated summary]
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Andre's WWE Transformation00:08:38
Growing up, I wanted to become a WWE wrestler.
MMA did not exist.
I wanted, but I'm too small.
I'm not big enough.
At the time, they were big.
All the wrestlers were minimum 200, maybe 30 pounds and plus.
Big dudes.
Yeah, now it changes.
Now they want sometimes more athletic guys, maybe smaller.
But before, they were all big guys.
Heavy big guys.
It was, yeah, I didn't have the, you know, the physique.
Yeah.
I could have maybe got on steroids and get there, but I didn't want to, I didn't want to take the risk, you know?
Oh my God.
Yeah.
And they, I mean, they encouraged the steroids, all the different steroids.
And those dudes were so, I've heard stories because I spent a lot of time around Hulk and stuff.
And like, I've heard so many stories from him and the other guys about just like all the explicit drug use and like not just the steroids, but they would have to be on painkillers because they were dealing with like serious chronic like back issues and hip issues all the time.
And like, They're incredible athletes.
I mean, the level of stunt that they got put in is unbelievable.
Like, the gravity doesn't play the same on a guy who weighs 250 pounds and a guy who's 150 pounds.
Like Andre the Giant.
Oh, hey, man.
I remember when Hulk Hogan lifted him up.
You know, I don't know if you've seen the documentary on TV.
It's unbelievable.
It's insane.
He wasn't actually.
He didn't know before he actually lifted him up, like a few seconds before he actually lifted him up, that it was going.
To he was going to do it because it wasn't planned, you know.
When you talk about it, is Andre the Giant was in a bad mood, uh, and he let Hulk lift him up and he sort of passed the torch, right?
You know, it's incredible.
The whole story behind what happened is unbelievable, it really is, bro.
And the fact that Andre the Giant was drinking like 324 packs of beer before a match, too, is like crazy.
The guy, he was constantly, just constantly.
Drinking beers.
And have you seen the photo of him holding a can of beer?
Oh, it's insane.
Yeah.
He's holding it, and it's like from here to here on the palm of his hand.
It's just.
Yeah, he was French.
Andre Lejeune.
Yes.
Yeah, man.
From France and very popular.
I'm from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
So he used to be a villain for a big part of his career.
But then where I'm from, he was always the good guy.
You know, people love to love the villain.
You know, because he was French.
Yeah.
And I think Hulk really injured himself when he lifted Andre in that match.
Yeah.
Something happened.
I don't remember if it was his hip or if it was his back, but I think he needed to get one of his first surgeries right after that.
I know that during that match, Andre was actually injured.
He had a back injury, so he couldn't do much.
And he was injured.
So he took it for the team.
It must have been very painful because he's like, Like something like 500 pounds to be lift up and slam, you know, like gravity doesn't play the same for him that is for myself, you know.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, it's a different world now.
Oh, yeah.
Like Shawn Michaels, man, Bret Hart, you know, these guys were my favorite.
It was insane.
I love Shawn Michaels because he was the perfect villain at one point.
You know, he was the guy that everybody loved to hate, you know.
Yes.
And he was very good to sell.
His opponent shot to make his opponent look good, which is very important.
To be a good wrestler, you need to make your partner look good.
That's like an exchange.
I make you look good, you make me look good.
Right.
And I think a lot of these guys, they have a big influence on what I do in MMA.
If you look at, for example, Conor McGregor, even, you know, like all the guys that trash talk, you know, a lot of them were inspired by those wrestlers.
Yeah.
They really, especially Conor, did a really good job of building up the theatrics of it and selling it and just being just such a good trash talker.
Like the build up to that Conor McGregor Floyd Mayweather fight was like one of the most insane.
Media spectacles of my lifetime, I think.
Yeah, he had this gift.
Connor had this unique gift that I think he was the best at in the world of MMA to make people interesting about the fight.
I think it was, I can't remember who said it.
I think it's Mohamed Ali says, Love me, hate me, but don't ignore me.
He was that guy.
You know what I mean?
You needed to have an opinion on Connor McGregor, whether you like him or you hate him.
You want to see what's going to happen.
Do you think he'll ever fight again?
I don't know.
The question is I believe if he fights again, will he perform as well as he did?
It's hard because he, you know, now he doesn't need the money.
Right.
He's very wealthy.
It's hard when you're wealthy to sort of put yourself back into, you know, into that mindset.
Right.
Have that hungry, the hungry dog runs faster.
Yeah.
I've done it myself.
So I know what I'm talking about, you know.
When you want to come back after a few years, when you don't need the money, but you want to do it for the right reason, it's hard.
Yeah, it's got to be tough.
And especially when I'm sure people are getting a lot better.
Like the younger guys coming up are getting a lot better.
And he's been off for so long.
I'm sure you kind of lose stuff.
I don't know how much he trains.
It looks to me like he gained a lot of weight because he did that movie Roadhouse.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
With Jake Gillen.
Oh, yeah, he looked fucking.
Yeah, he looked big.
He looked like 200 pounds.
But, you know, sometimes camera can play tricks on your mind.
Get on that gas, baby.
Yeah.
He used to compete at 145.
Now, if he went up to 200 pounds, I'm sure, I mean, if he fought at 155, but I'm sure he won't be able to go back that low, you know?
So if he fights again, it will be, I think, at 170.
It has to be because he's.
He's much bigger than he used to be.
Yeah.
Wasn't he supposed to?
Wasn't there one like scheduled or something?
Oh, yeah.
The White House?
That was last year.
Oh, the White House.
There was a rumor of him fighting at the White House.
Yeah, that's what it was.
Is that still on or is that.
Well, I don't know.
There was a lot of.
What's the update on that?
There was a lot of guys that were like Connor was one of them.
John, I thought John would be on the White House.
But now that the card just got officially announced, I'm actually going to be there because I'm cornering Eamon Zahabi.
He's fighting Sean O'Malley.
Oh, yeah.
So, what they did, it seems to me like they chose one fighter that represents the United States and a fighter who's from elsewhere in every fight of the card.
So, you have Justin Gayche against Elias Tuporia, Cyril Gann, who's from France, against Pereira, who's, I think he's from Brazil, or I don't know if he still lives in Brazil or he lives in America.
But yeah, that's what they did.
It's the best card of their year.
That's going to be nuts.
When is that supposed to be?
June 14, if I remember correctly.
June 14 of this year.
It could be a different, I think it's June 14.
Yeah.
That's going to be crazy.
How is America going to pull off a UFC fight on the White House lawn in the middle of all the chaos going on in the world right now?
One thing I can tell you is that.
We got 16 wars going on and pedophile rings being exposed.
That's the only time in history it's going to happen, I think.
I don't think it will ever happen again.
I mean, who else will do that?
I think what they should do is they should get all of the billionaires who were exposed in the Epstein files and have them do death.
Matches like Coliseum style, like celebrity deathmatch, but you got file deathmatch, they all have to go in until there's no one.
That's right.
Media Conspiracies Exposed00:04:45
I like your idea, I think they should give it a try.
Oh my god, that would be so crazy, dude!
Yeah, the world is crazy right now, bro.
Yeah, it's too much, it's too much to process.
Just the newsfeed alone, do you believe everything that?
Is been said on TV by the media?
I don't watch the TV.
I don't watch the Fox and CNN and that shit.
I don't watch.
That's just narrative driven bullshit hiding behind the word news.
I just try to pay attention as much as I can to smart people who know about this stuff that do podcasts.
And I pay attention to the journalists on X, the good journalists that are on X posting on there.
They can be very like.
Like stuff that's breaking right now will often be on X and stuff like that.
And people can corroborate it and call it out for bullshit.
You can see the context.
You know, if you scroll down, you can read like the comments to see, is this bullshit?
Is this real?
So, and then if it's font, sometimes I like to turn on like Fox or CNN just to see what the narrative is, just to see what my parents are seeing.
See the both side of the spectrum.
Right.
Right.
But the blue and the red, right?
Yeah.
There was just something I saw today, this morning actually.
Just since the Iran war broke out, do you remember when COVID happened?
There's those montages of all of the mainstream media outlets basically repeating the same thing over and over again.
It's like they were almost fed a script.
That's already happened with the Iran war.
All of them are already saying, there's a montage that says, short term pain for long term success.
All of them are saying the same thing.
So, like, I don't, it's just, all of that stuff is just too narrative driven and I think it's too fake.
And I used to watch the news a lot, but since the COVID, like in Canada, it was very, especially in Quebec where I'm from, it was very badly managed.
We had curfew, and I was so pissed off.
I was very angry at the situation.
I mean, how a curfew will limit the propagation of the, you know, I don't get it.
You know, I was very angry and I was very disappointed of what happened, but it made me realize also that.
Maybe the media sometimes are politicized, you know, like they have maybe the guy that works doesn't even know, but maybe upstairs there's an agenda, you know, maybe it's pharmaceutical industry, maybe it's a military industrial complex.
I mean, when the military industrial complex, you know, profit from war, there will always be war.
Same thing with, I believe, a virus or a disease, they will always have virus or disease because.
They make money out of it, you know.
Yeah, a lot of people roll their eyes and think, Oh, it's a conspiracy theory idea.
But man, the more you look at it, and the more you dive into these things, sometimes you find out this is the year.
This is the year of the conspiracy theorist, man.
Conspiracy theorists are rolling and rolling in right now because everything that all the craziest conspiracies are coming true now, yeah.
You know, it's insane.
There's a comedian, Sam Tripoli, he came in the other day and he's a conspiracy theory podcast.
He said, After these Epstein files came out, we only have three conspiracies left.
The only ones, only the only conspiracies left are flat earth, viruses aren't real, and nukes are fake, yeah, yeah, it's insane.
But it also depends where you're from, for example.
I'm lucky I have the opportunity to travel a lot.
I travel around the world and I can see while I'm traveling which country is exposed to certain truth.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Even though it might not be the truth.
Like in Canada, for example, where I'm from in Quebec, it's very left wing.
You know, like if you look at the media, you know, all the left wing ideologies are pushed.
And if you go, for example, in, I don't know, like in Texas, I watch Fox is right.
And then you have CNN, which is left, right?
But depending where you're at, and I'm sure if I would go in Russia and I have a friend that lives there, we're the bad guys in their movies.
You know what I mean?
We're the bad guys.
So it depends from which point of view you're looking at.
You know what I mean?
So it's so hard to really find out the truth because, man, it's always politicized.
Yeah, there's so much nuance, man.
The Pentagon Whistleblower00:13:41
It's really hard to know.
And, you know, it's.
I say this all the time and it frustrates me, but like for people like me that basically just talk in a microphone and post videos on the internet and talk to people, like it's that what we're doing right here is talking about some war somewhere is so disconnected from the truth because like you have one guy who's on the ground who's seeing something, reporting it, and then there's like five layers of separation of people talking about it.
It's like the game of telephone before it gets to, A video that I'm able to see and talk about it on here.
And there's somebody who's hearing it for the first time through me six layers deep.
So it's like we're so disconnected from what's real, anyways.
It's just, it's so hard to drill down to what's really going on around the world.
And also with the age of AI now that we're in, it's going to be even harder to differentiate what's real, what's not.
There's so much misinformation, you know, you just look online, like all the products.
People try to sell, you know, this is cure cancer, this, do that.
I'm like, man, I don't know what's real.
It's hard.
It's very hard to know, you know, very hard to know.
Yeah.
The AI stuff's scary as shit, dude.
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Did you see that news thing that happened with Anthropic AI, the company that was getting the defense contract from the Pentagon or whatever?
So the Pentagon had this contract with a pull up the story, Steve, so we don't fuck it up.
But this company called Anthropic, one of the biggest AI companies, was working on a deal with the Pentagon.
And I guess one of the line items in the contract was that they wanted them to spy on US citizens with their AI.
And then they said, no, that we're not doing this.
Get rid of the get take this out of the contract.
And the Pentagon was like, no, this is we're we're sticking to this point.
We're not going to let this go.
And then so eventually the Pentagon said, screw you guys, we're going with OpenAI.
So they offered it to OpenAI, ChatGPT, the company that owns ChatGPT with Sam Altman.
And I guess he took the deal.
So now like ChatGPT is working with the Pentagon and potentially they're going to be spying on US citizens.
So who knows?
Who knows how that goes?
I'm sure they already do it.
I have a friend who works for the government.
He's He's high, you know, and he says to me, This, you know, cell phone.
Yeah, they can listen to our conversation, they can look with the camera.
The thing they're not allowed to do is to use those evidence and publicly because that would prove that they, you know, they interfere in our privacy, right?
But they can collect intelligence, you know, they can use it, you know.
So it's crazy.
I'm sure they already do it, yeah.
They have to, they have to, bro.
I mean, I've heard, I've heard like anecdotal stories of weird happening to people, but like.
God damn, man.
Well, if they've been doing that since, from what I understand, is they've been spying on people since 9 11.
But, like, how much crime have they stopped?
Like, what is their justification for doing that?
Like, have they, they haven't stopped that we know of, like, any big attacks.
There's been tons of attacks, like, throughout the country since then.
And when you say they, who are they?
Is it the president?
Or I don't know, because the president comes and goes every four years.
Is he brief on that stuff?
Or what is his level of secrecy?
Well, it's, Probably the NSA and private companies.
But who's in charge?
You must have a guy who has the full picture of this.
There must be a guy who has the full picture.
Or a group of people that have.
Same thing with I know you're really into UFO, UAPs.
There's a phenomenon.
I mean, the phenomenon is real.
What we don't know for sure is that we don't have evidence to know if it's alien.
Interdimensional or us from the future or Atlantean or whatever, you know, like we don't know.
But the phenomenon is real.
There's things that flies.
Is the government has retrieved some of them to back engineer this?
We don't know.
There's a lot of whistleblowers that came up.
Yeah.
But same thing with this topic.
There must be a group or someone that has the biggest picture, you know?
I wish I could know, you know?
Yeah, I just don't know how that person sleeps at night.
Yeah.
You know, they must be, unless they're just a pure sociopath, like a pure psychopath.
If you had an opportunity on your podcast, Danny, to interview someone on Truth Serum, who would it be?
On Truth Serum?
Yes, he has to tell you an answer.
Oh.
Because there must be someone high up that knows.
You know who would have chosen?
I would choose Vladimir Putin.
Ooh.
Because he used to be in the KGB.
So, I'm sure Vladimir Putin probably knows more than the Prime Minister of Canada or the President because he wasn't, or maybe Bush Sr., but now he's gone.
Bush Sr.
Yeah, guys like this, I think they know a lot of stuff.
I think I'd pick Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton?
Could be, yeah.
I think he knows a lot of shit.
Probably.
I think he's a smart guy, for as evil as that guy is and all the atrocities that he's committed.
He's very smart.
I think he knows a lot of shit.
A lot of shit that could lay to rest a lot of mysteries in the world today, including the UFO stuff.
Yeah.
I watched, did you watch the, I don't know if you saw that recent deposition that he did?
No.
Where they're deposing him about the Epstein stuff?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I heard that.
Yeah, I haven't seen it.
Oh, shit.
Oh, God.
It was wild.
What did he say?
Like, he says he knew, but he was never part of it.
Well, first of all, he looks like, Joe Biden, right?
He looks the same age as Joe Biden and he's got this like pre Parkinson's, like he's drinking his water and he's like drinking it like that, you know, he's shaking and you're like, oh God, this poor guy, like they're gonna rip him apart.
And then he opens his mouth and he is sharp as attack.
Oh yeah.
Like he's still got the charm, he's still got the wit, he's quick.
I mean, he always used to, he was always like that.
And then they're showing him some photos of him and Epstein from back in the day and he passes it to it and he looks at it.
He likes to pull his glasses down, staring at it.
And then he gets this real big smile on his face.
And then his lawyer yanks it from him.
Hold on, hold on.
Give me that back.
Give me that back.
And he's like, This is on the video.
He's reminiscing.
Yeah, it's in the deposition with him.
You could probably find it on X, but it is fucking bonkers to see him react like that, dude.
Because you can tell, you can just tell he's like, he's having a full on like flashback of what he was going through.
And, you know, some of the shoulders that he's rubbed with, like, In his years traveling around the world with some of the sheiks and the world leaders, and you know, like I would just I would love to juice that dude up with an IV of truth serum and let him talk for three hours.
That would be that would be pretty insane.
Which good question would you ask him?
Tell me, I don't know where to start.
UFO Epstein foul.
The first thing I would ask him, I would ask him about Mina, Arkansas, and ask him how much money he was making from all the cocaine that was coming in from South America.
Look at him, this is him staring at the photo.
Look at the mouths open.
He's just like, give me that back.
Give me that shit back.
Yeah.
I think it's Bob Marley says, We live in our memories.
You know?
He's living a souvenir.
That was a good night.
Oh, shit.
Remember her?
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
That doesn't look good.
Yeah.
It doesn't look good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
It's hard to interpret.
He's top of the list.
I'm sure there's some other people I could think of that are dead now.
But he's up there.
Man.
He's definitely up there, bro.
Bob Lazar would be another good one.
Oh, yeah?
I think Bob Lazar would be good.
I know him a little bit.
I saw.
I saw.
You were just at that thing with Jesse Michaels and Bob Lazar and those guys.
I met him a few times.
I spent time with him.
Really?
And I met him many different times.
And, well, a lot of people say I'm naive, but I believe that he believes what he's telling me is true.
I don't know if the story is true, but I believe that he believes it.
That he believes it.
Yes.
Yes.
One theory that I had was that maybe, because during his testimony, he says that if you look at the interview, he says that before he got to the hangar and he got exposed to those craft that are apparently from another world and retrieved by the military, he had to drink.
A cocktail, he didn't know what it was.
And you know, yeah, he had an exam, like a physical exam.
So I thought that maybe one theory is that he could have been part of maybe some kind of MK Ultra.
Like, you know, when you do a regression in hypnosis, I wonder if it's possible to inject fake memories in someone.
I think so.
You know, people will say, oh, no, it's impossible.
But what is more.
Plausible this, or maybe he worked on the alien craft.
But the thing is, this theory doesn't hold up anymore because he only drank that liquid once and he went back and forth multiple times at different times to work, you know, because he was on call.
Sometimes he was working like for a few days, then he went back home for a week or two, then he got a call again, brought back for another few days.
So that wouldn't work because, you know, if he would have had to drink that liquid, Before every time he got exposed to this material, maybe that would have held up.
But because the fact that he only did it once in the beginning and he had to come back and forth, I don't know, maybe it was.
They would have to implant fake memories throughout a long period of time, right?
I guess so.
I don't know if it's doable.
I don't know if that is either.
The thing is, I believe that the military industrial complex.
As certain tech has access to certain technology that we do not have, I think they have their hands on certain technology that it takes maybe decades for us to have access to.
So maybe they have a way to do that.
I know they experiment on different soldiers, you know, on hypnosis and psychedelic drugs, yeah, and different programs.
That's one theory, or maybe he really did work on a retrieve alien craft that was from, he says in the report, it was Zeta Reticuli.
So, the binary star system is very far away from.
He said that they told him it was from there.
Yeah, he read a report.
Oh, he read the report.
But it was impossible for him to know if what was written in the report was accurate because sometimes it's only information that is passed down to you.
And if there's a leak, they can trace it back to you.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So maybe it was not true, but he says that everything that was written in the report about what he was working on was accurate.
So, maybe it was accurate.
Maybe it wasn't.
I don't know.
I want to believe that.
If I was to bet, I would just say that that really happened.
You know, because there's so much bullshit out there now where it's just like, who knows what you can take?
You know, who knows what's real or who knows what's fake?
It's just like playing roulette, you know, with what's true or not.
So, and that was so early and he's been so consistent.
Sleep Paralysis Mysteries00:04:05
Yeah.
And, you know, he had such a weird past like before that.
Like, I heard that he owned some sort of like brothel or something.
So, if you were the CIA and you wanted to pick some guy, He's the perfect guy to pick because you can deny him so easily.
That's right.
That's what he says.
He says the reason why he believed he was picked to work on that project, it's because, not because he was the most competent.
There were guys that were just as competent and maybe more competent than he is.
But he's clearly a brilliant man, like very educated.
But he says to me that the reason why he was picked, he believes, is because he was easy to be discredited.
If something happened, you could say, oh, he's bullshitter.
Look at his past, crime.
That makes him the perfect candidate.
Exactly.
Yeah.
They might have planned this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think they could have.
It's fun to speculate, though.
It is.
It is very fun.
Yeah, man.
Now, didn't you say that you had some sort of like weird experiences when you were young?
When I was young, I.
This was on your first Joe Rogan.
Yeah.
He was like drilling down on you, and you were like, no, no, no.
I was so uncomfortable at the time.
I didn't know how to react.
And I don't know how he got that information.
He must have talked to some of my friends, or I don't know why he got that information.
But when I was young, I.
I used to have a nightmare.
And yeah, I used to tell my parents, hey, I think there are monsters, or, you know, I used to draw them, you know?
And it lasts for a long time since I was like a kid until I would say early teenager.
But there is a phenomenon that is called sleep paralysis that happened to many people.
And for me, it makes more sense.
It's more plausible to think that.
That's really what happened.
Like, I was maybe in a semi conscious state in the middle of a dream, and I got paralyzed, and I imagined all those things.
However, I cannot recall exactly what happened.
But I remembered that I remembered.
Yeah.
And what freaked me out is that I saw documentaries, different documentaries about alien abduction after when I was about.
You know, early teenage teenager, and a lot of those victims claimed that their memory got erased.
Yeah, it made me freaked out a little bit.
I was like, Holy shit, what if you know that what happened?
But I, I mean, I don't have any evidence, it's only in my head.
I used to have crazy night terrors when I was a kid.
No, no, never thought it was like alien abduction or anything, but I just had like I don't know if it would be sleep paralysis, but it was just like I remember just you know laying in bed.
Lights off, pitch black, just being so goddamn terrified.
And like having, I would have these nightmares where I was like awake but asleep and I would sleepwalk.
And like I was, I was literally unmanageable with my parents said I was unmanageable for years because I was having these crazy night terrors.
Maybe it happened to you.
Maybe, or I think it could be just something in just like the undeveloped human brain.
When kids are young, Kids talk to ghosts, kids do all kinds of crazy stuff, you know?
Maybe we have the logical part of our brain is not molded yet, you know?
So we have more creativity, more imagination.
Maybe that's what it is for me as well.
And sometimes we have traumatic experiences, maybe watching a movie and we pick up those information that we're exposed to and make it up as our own experience, you know?
That is more plausible than saying that you've been abducted, but it's fun to speculate, you know?
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Later on, um, In my life, I saw a UAP, something that I cannot explain.
I mean, I'm not an astrophysicist.
I was driving my car.
It's about maybe almost 18 years ago.
Yeah, Russia Davidson.
Oh, no, I haven't had a month.
So I was with him.
I was in Albuquerque.
I was with Ali Abdelaziz, who's the manager of Khabib Nemagomenov, Isla Makachev.
I was with Mike Van Arzel, who's another fighter in front of the car.
And another guy who was there, Alejandro.
Mexican fighter, but I lost track of him.
We were together in a car and we all saw something.
I don't know what it was.
I'm not saying it's Italian, but we saw something that we couldn't explain.
It didn't look like anything that we have seen before.
And all five of us, when it happened, we were on the highway driving.
It was dark.
We were like, holy shit, what happened?
Oh my God.
And I remember because it's very strange.
When they talk about what they've seen, it does not resemble what I've seen.
It's like we're lying.
We make up a story that we all have different experiences.
So for me, it looked like a greenish triangular light orb sort of flying towards us.
Then it changed direction.
Then it changed again and it skipped away.
And it sort of disappeared.
Where again?
It was an Albuquerque, New Mexico.
It was training for one of my training camps.
But another thing, too, that when you talk about these things and you're all MMA fighters, people will right away say, oh, you're all brain damaged.
You guys are crazy.
But we really saw something.
Maybe it was a test flight from, I don't know, some kind of very advanced craft from the military, but they didn't move like anything I've seen before.
I just described it to you is different than how, for example, Rashad or Mike Van Arsdell or even Ali Abdelaziz or the other guy describe it.
Interesting.
How did they describe it?
Well, some say, I can't remember.
Some say it lasted for a minute.
For me, I think it lasted for maybe 10, 15 seconds, maybe.
Some say it was blue.
I think for me, if I remember correctly, it was green, but I can't, it's weird.
I can't because it's so weird.
There's no frame of reference, no wings, nothing.
I can't really remember what I've seen because there's no frame of reference.
Right.
But we all saw something.
I don't know what it was.
But if it was like a comet or anything, it didn't move like a comet.
It was like moving different direction, then it changed and it skipped out.
Well, that part of the continent is like very common to see that kind of stuff.
And there's also lots of military bases around there that have been testing stuff forever.
And a lot of UAPs are linked to military base with nuclear weapon storage.
A lot of times it's seen.
Over a military area where they have like nuclear weapons, like, it's like we've been monitored or something.
I don't know.
It seems like the nuclear stuff is the common denominator, right?
Between most of the UFO sightings and not just around nuclear missile bases, but also around nuclear power plants.
There's like the Japan Fukushima meltdown, UFO sightings all around that.
They even have UFO monuments around there now.
Even Chernobyl, there were documented sites around there.
And then even in.
South Africa in 1993, I think there was a famous case in Rua, the school.
Ariel School.
The Ariel School.
There was a nuclear plant or a mine or something really close to there.
So, yeah, we actually, just the other day, I had this guy in here, Robert Solis, who was working at one of the military bases in Wyoming, I think it was.
And he was telling the story about how in the 70s, in like 78 or something, A UFO came and shut down his entire missile site twice in three days.
It's like, and these guys are, you know, these guys aren't kooks.
Yeah.
There's a report that the same thing happened in Russia during the Cold War.
Yes.
And it activates instead because they have a different system than the American.
And they turn it on.
And at the last moment, they turn it on and then turn it off at the last moment.
I mean, it's in the report.
Yeah.
I, man, I want to believe, but man, it's.
It's, you know, we don't have the strong evidence.
I mean, there's a lot, sorry, there's a lot of evidence, but there's no proof, you know.
Evidence is not a proof, you know.
In a court of law, a lot of this, like, would automatically justify that UFOs, I mean, it's a real phenomenon, but what they are is the thing.
It's all right, like, people that think UFOs do not exist, there's no UAPs because they're late, they're not up to date.
Even President Barack Obama, Trump have talked about it.
Openly, there is a phenomenon.
There is a phenomenon, but we don't know what they are.
Yeah, and damn fun to speculate.
It could be multiple things, it could be a number of things.
Like, it could be some sort of natural, like, there's earthquake lights that come up, like, before earthquakes that look like UFOs.
You know, who knows what other kind of like weird, natural, atmospheric things could create stuff like this?
It could be some fucking breakaway.
Survivor human civilization from that survived a catastrophe a long time ago.
Now they live under the ocean.
It could be like super secret DARPA military stuff.
It could be all of it.
It could be time travelers.
Who knows?
It could be Zeta Reticuli or maybe just a little bit of all of it.
Our own consciousness that creates something.
It's very strange.
I was with Jeremy Corbell, who's an investigative journalist.
He's one of the main guys that, when the news comes out, it's very often him and George Knapp that.
Yeah, I'm familiar with him.
He's great.
And I went to his house and he was very kind to show us video evidence.
Man, you should see these things.
They're picked up from Navy warships.
You see orbs that the warship locked on it.
Like, It locked, it's AI, it locked, and then it goes to the left, then it tried to follow the orbs, then it catch up to it, and then it zip back to the right and disappear.
I'm like, what the hell is this?
Is this stuff that's not available to the public?
I will be.
I think it is available or it will be released soon by the time this thing comes out, you know?
So he has a ton of stuff that are very interesting.
And he was very, very nice, very kind to show us.
Like, it's unbelievable.
So he's.
Wow.
There's really a phenomenon.
It's very.
We had this dude on recently.
What was his name?
Peter Lavenda, who was just on here, who's written a bunch of books about this stuff his whole life for probably like 50 years.
He's been writing about this stuff.
And just a historian on the history of like the United States military, covert operations, like black budget stuff, UFOs, the occult, NASA, and all this stuff.
He knows all, he's a genius.
And I was asking him about, like, I was like, if you really wanted to study this stuff and find the truth, like, how would you do it?
How would you go about finding out the truth?
Like, and not, if you were, let's say, if you're like in charge of the CIA or the government and you want to know what's really going on.
He was saying, he goes, if I wanted to know what the truth was, he goes, I would study the human mind and human consciousness of the people that are experiencing this stuff if I really wanted to go straight to the truth.
He thinks there's some sort of conduit between the people who experience this stuff all the time or have experienced it a handful of times.
There's something going on with those people and their consciousness that is directly connected to this stuff.
And he thinks that's, he goes, thinking about it as far as in like a nuts and bolts space travel way, like space time way, is the wrong way of thinking about it.
Yeah.
It's very interesting.
I've never heard anyone explain it like that to me before.
It blew my fucking mind.
But.
A lot of people claim that they're saying that if something that big would not be able, the government will not be able to hide it.
But I disagree because if it's well compartmented, I think they can't hide it from the public.
If they really found or recuperate alien craft or alien bodies, as they claim, the whistleblowers, and it's hidden somewhere, I think if they compartmented everything, they could hide certain things.
Sure.
I mean, it's only speculation, but look at the paper clip, the project after the Second World War.
Yeah, after the Second World War, when they brought all the Nazi, they brought the Nazi in work for the space program, Werner von Braun and all that.
That's true.
It's created by Nazis and occultists.
100%.
And people don't believe that.
You can look it up.
It's true.
It's true.
Yeah.
It's insane.
They hide it.
The Manhattan Project, the atomic bomb, they hid it because they compartmentalize everything.
Maybe the alien craft is the same thing.
I mean, it's who knows?
It's fun.
The Nazis were obsessed with this shit the alien stuff and the UFO stuff and like trying to reverse engineer and build all kinds of crazy time travel machines.
And there was the Wright brothers, not the Wright brothers, the who were the brothers that came up with the flying wing?
I don't know why I'm blanking on these guys' names.
Anyways, these guys came from there and they, the Horton brothers, they had the Horton flying wing and the other things, other objects that they were using that looked like space.
Flying objects or whatever.
And they disappeared to like South America after Germany fell.
And then all the Nazis came here and started doing all the atomic bomb manufacturing and this.
And fuck, man.
It's like the Nazis didn't lose World War II.
Germany lost World War II.
The Nazis just came over here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of them.
And continued America, man.
Yeah.
It's very sad.
It's insane.
Yeah.
They, they, they, and, but then after the war, you have to think who's the next enemy?
The Soviet, you know?
Then the Cold War starts.
Who's the enemy of my enemy?
We're going to use the enemy of my enemy.
And, you know, I don't know.
It's so evil.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, the Cold War just like changed everything.
It's like it went from kinetic war to boots on the ground, just fighting to this weird, covert shadow wars where it's all spying on people and trying to get leverage and manipulate the media.
So the public has an, it's like you're casting shadows on a wall to try to.
Paint a reality for the people.
And on the other hand, you're just doing all this crazy spy war, getting leverage on different countries, getting blackmail on countries, doing arms deals, maybe even doing deals with the countries that you're telling your population are evil.
And just for the purpose of bankers making more money and politicians climbing ladders and getting more power.
And I think that's kind of like we're experiencing the long term effects of that right now with all this Epstein stuff coming out.
And this Iran war happening, where it's like, Jesus Christ, man, are we?
I don't think we're the good guys anymore.
It's hard to have faith.
Yeah, it's hard to have faith in your institution when you see that happen.
If I would have a gun on my head and try and tell me what really is going on, I would probably think that the military industrial complex, there are certain bureaucrats in the government that control the narrative.
There will always be war because we need war.
They need war to make money.
Yeah.
I think it's Eisenhower that warned everyone before he left, and nobody paid attention to what he says.
But if you go back, you can watch it even on YouTube, his speech.
He warns that if we let the military and the war be profitable and the military industrial complex in charge, that's not good.
No.
And he's the general, he's a pro war guy.
So if someone.
If you think someone would not say something like this, it would be him.
Right.
But he said it.
Yeah.
It's very strange.
It's very prophetic.
I mean, very strange.
Yeah.
You see what's happened in today's world.
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There's a war that ends.
There's another one that starts immediately.
There's always a war.
There's always, I think, whether it's public or if it's private, I think there will always be.
It's sad to say, but I sort of lost faith.
And I think if there is money to be made, there are always.
I think not just you and me, man.
I think a lot of military people.
People are losing faith too.
You know, like I hear stories all the time on podcasts and on people that I know and that I talk to that come on this podcast who spent their lives, you know, fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan and, you know, over in the Middle East after 9 11.
And they come back and like see that it was all for nothing.
These guys have, first of all, they've literally wasted all that time.
They've put themselves through so much psychological trauma, you know, not just from seeing so much death, so much goddamn death and destruction every day.
And also being in that like, Which you know about being in that hyper vigilant state, like when you're in the fucking octagon and you're fighting somebody, like being in that every day, but with a gun pointed at somebody.
It's even worse.
And you come back, you basically retire from the military, and now you live here and you're trying to get like a normal nine to five job, and you're fucking depressed, and you know, these people's fucking lives are getting ruined.
And most of those dudes, they did it for the right reason because they want to protect the people they love, a patriot, you know?
Yeah.
And now the country, they turn.
The government turned their back on them.
Yeah, it's very sad.
It is really sad.
Um, yeah, that's an hour.
Yeah, that's a one.
Yeah, was Bernie posted it?
Yeah, man.
I, I, my English sucks, you know, so I'm sorry for everyone.
All it's getting better, it's getting better, but I've seen the evolution of it.
Well, well, you know, like we talk about this Eisenhower clip, it's something that I was.
Exposed later in my life, you know, like all this stuff because, you know, in French, I had the tradition, the trajectory version, you know, in French.
But when I was able to get my hand and listen to the original one, I was like, man, this is crazy.
You know, it is pretty fucking wild to see all these things coming true from so long ago, you know.
Have you seen the, my brother was, I was having a conversation with my brother on the phone this morning.
We were talking kind of like about this stuff and like AI and all that.
And people's reality has been turned so upside down.
Where have you seen the videos?
There's videos online of Hitler giving his speeches, and they re dub it into English.
Oh, yeah.
People are saying, Oh my God, he was such a great guy.
Listen to this.
He seems like such a positive dude.
Evil genius, but an evil one.
But my question is How do you know AI is not changing all that?
I don't know fucking German.
I don't have time to go learn German to verify this.
It's dangerous, bro.
Yeah, the way he was able to bring everyone on board, like manipulate everyone, like it's scary.
Yeah.
But when you hear that, what you talk about, that clip, you think he goes like, fuck, fuck, fuck, kill the kill, kill the as you wish.
Right.
It sounds like that.
Yeah.
But the way he talks is very eloquent and very, you know, like if you're in Germany in a crisis and you're exposed to this, you see him as a savior.
I mean, you can get blind by what he says.
And then after you found out that everything he's done, like the guy is a Pure evil, you know, it's insane, you know.
Right.
But it's very interesting when they translate the speech.
I'm like, what the hell, man?
It's crazy.
See if you can find the video clip of it, Steve.
It's nuts.
And see if you can, I think you, I don't know.
I don't know if YouTube does the thing where, like, because I don't trust anything I see on Google or YouTube.
So I don't know if I would trust them to verify its reality or not, of like the authenticity of it.
You might have to, like, run it.
You might have to, like, run one of those videos through AI or something, or just give it to, like, a Greek professor.
Oh, yeah, that's a one.
We, that is the democracy's.
Oh wow.
Just give us like 30 seconds of it.
It is a shameful spectacle to see how the whole democratic world is oozing sympathy for the poor, tormented Jewish people, but remains hard-hearted and obdurate when it comes to helping them, which is surely, in view of its attitude, an obvious duty.
The arguments that are brought up as an excuse for not helping them actually speak for us Germans and Italians, for this is what they say.
One, we, that is the democracies, are not in a position to take in the Jews.
Yet in these empires, there are not 10 people to the square kilometer, while Germany, with her 135 inhabitants to the square kilometer, is.
This guy's got to be so tired after doing these speeches.
After doing a speech like that for an hour, how do you have energy to do anything?
Apparently, it was on Met.
Yo, yo, guys, lots of fucking Met.
I think it's the Second World War that they went through the Ardennes in France when they got to France.
They got so fast that nobody expected them to be there that fast.
Yeah, because they had different dose of drug for the, let's say, the tank driver.
Fervatin.
Yeah.
It was like, for a long time, they couldn't sleep maybe for two days, like nonstop driving.
Like, it's crazy, man.
Yeah.
And apparently, that's how they got through France so quick because all the French soldiers were drinking wine and these fucking German Nazis hopped up on meth, just started ramming through.
That's crazy.
But at the end of it, when the meth wears off, the guys were like worthless.
You know, because it like sucked up all this dopamine or whatever that it uses in your brain.
And these guys were just like, they were able to fight for like days on end with no sleep.
But then after that, they would be useless for like a few days.
That would be fucked up.
Yeah.
That would be super fucked up.
Man, it must have been a crazy, scary time to live in, man.
If you're, let's say, let's say you're a Jewish person living in Europe.
I have a friend.
His name is George Rennetz.
He's 90, he's going to turn 94 years old.
He was in a concentration camp.
I'm actually going to.
To see him this week.
Oh, wow.
I'm doing an episode.
I'm launching a YouTube channel in a few weeks and I'm having an episode on him.
The guy, man, is sharp, man.
It's really, oh, he's unbelievable.
Very successful, very wealthy, healthy.
Like, how can you come back after you live through that trauma?
Right.
Put your life in order.
I mean, the guy for me is one of my idols, he's one of my biggest inspirations.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
Some of the people that had been through that.
And come out of it, we're like some of the most interesting people ever.
You know, it does something to you when you go through something like that.
You know, like I read that book by Viktor Frankl, it was Man's Search for Meaning years ago.
And I remember just like, I could never forget that book, just seeing the stuff that those people saw and being able to escape, you know, like barely just make it out.
And then, you know, you don't take anything in life for granted after that.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, it's insane.
You know, like they live through that.
You know what I mean?
Like, I wonder how he sees the world.
You know, like, I wonder how he, like, people cannot.
You just wake up and you're fucking happy to be alive.
Man, all the people you know, they're dead.
You know, like your family, and then you have to survive this.
How do you stand up from that?
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Apparently, all the Russians are using like in some new age sort of like performance-enhancing drug, which is similar to meth, to like help them on the battlefield.
And the dudes on the other side are using like psychedelics to give them like more.
Edge detection, like when they're on the battlefield, because I guess there's certain psychedelics that like help you navigate 3D space better, huh?
Really?
And I think one of the psychedelics they're using is Ibogaine in Ukraine, and apparently it's really helping.
Wow, it's used as a performance enhancing drug for soldiers.
I know in the Olympic game, in shooting, they have they cut guys on performance enhancing drugs.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, they do.
Yeah, people think it's only in lifting, running.
What kind of drugs are they taking?
I'm not sure if it's something that prevents them from shaking or if it's to focus better, like Adderall or.
Yeah.
It would be interesting.
I don't know if we can Google it, but there's a drug that the shooters use.
I remember when I saw something about the shooting in the Olympic Games, I was really shocked to see what country was winning at that.
It's a weird country that wins in shooting.
Remember, we were just talking about this the other day.
What country was that?
I know a guy from Turkey won.
Maybe it was Turkey.
Yeah, that's what it was.
It was Turkey.
I was like, I never expected Turkey to have the best shooters.
Yeah, it's a skill.
Yeah.
I learned recently that NFL players take Adderall.
I was like, I would never expect Adderall to be an athletic enhancement.
Well, I think, I mean, I think it's for focus, right?
Is Adderall?
Adderall is typically what college students or writers take.
An exam, right?
Yeah, they're studying, they're trying to cram for an exam, or people that are trying to finish an essay or a book, like more like.
You know, trying to get tasks done, like cognitive tasks.
I've never heard of athletes using Adderall.
I know that because I look, I never use a performance enhancing drug, but I have trained many times with different training partners that are my friends and openly said it to me, like when they are on cycles.
Right.
And, bro, I can tell you it makes such a crazy big difference.
Really?
Oh, it's insane.
Like some guy that says, oh, it's.
It's me who throw the punch.
It's not the product bullshit.
You would maybe not have had the vigilance or the clairvoyance to react if you would not have been on that drug.
You know what I mean?
It makes a crazy difference.
So, yes, it helps for a sport like lifting, running, but it also helps for a sport that are more technical.
What are the most, before USADA came into the picture, what were the most popular performance enhancing drugs for fighters?
I liked performance enhancing drugs for fighters a lot of times.
I mean, from what I heard.
Propranolol?
Propranolol, that's a blood pressure medicine, isn't it?
Oh, yeah, for a shooter, though.
His first shooter was stripped of his silver medal and bronze medal at the Beijing Olympics for using Propranolol to manage performance anxiety.
It's a non selective beta blocker used to treat high blood pressure.
A beta blocker, right?
Yeah.
All right, there we go.
That's nuts.
It makes you calmer.
Oh, because it gives you steady hands.
Maybe it slows down your heart rate, gets rid of anxiety.
Huh.
Yeah, there's, bro, there's drugs for everything.
I'm telling you, there's, it makes you not only stronger, more stamina, it makes you a better, like a better performer.
It's crazy.
Like, what, but for fighting though, like what's the most optimal?
Very often, I mean, guys that use performance enhancing drugs for fighting, very often they will take something, I think, that increases their level of testosterone.
Because if you have more testosterone, like you're more like, yeah, like you're like, You're obviously more aggressive, you recuperate faster, more testosterone equals more muscle, bigger bone density.
But also, they will take something to increase their stamina.
You know, like a lot of time, some kind of mixed cocktail with EPO.
EPO, yeah.
I'm not, I don't have the expertise, you know, to know that stuff by heart.
But from what I hear from guys that are either, from what I've seen from guys that have been.
Cut using them, or and I hear from guys that are openly telling me what they take, right?
It's very often stuff that has to do to elevate your level of testosterone and your stamina.
But it also makes you stronger, faster, more powerful, more aggressive, but it also makes you more creative.
Yeah, you would think just being more aggressive wouldn't help.
Look, I'm going to tell you the truth.
I was curious about this whole testosterone level thing.
When guys start getting popped, At the UFC, when they implement the USADA, you know, and then when that's when you came back, right?
Yeah, but even before that, when when guys got pop with the PT, TRT, like some sudden, some guys got pop and they say, Oh, it's a medical exemption because I'm on TRT, which is bullshit, by the way.
I'm totally against it.
You know, if you compete, why would you take TRT?
This, I disagree completely.
So I was curious, I was like, Man, I'm gonna do the test myself to see my level of testosterone because I never use performance enhancing drugs, but I wanna see.
So, I did it when I was not competing in, you know, off season.
I always train.
When I was off season, it wasn't the window, but the higher window of the average, you know.
Like I had a good level, you know, like a little bit higher than the average male.
How old were you at that point?
I was maybe in my 30s, you know.
But then when I was in, I did it also, I tested when I was in training camp.
And guess what?
When I was in training camp, my level dropped below the average.
Right.
Below the average.
And I realized I was like, man, is it normal?
I was like, man, is it normal?
And the doctor told me, the endocrineologist said, yes, because you're more stressed, your volume of training rises.
So, because you're more stressed, you have more cortisol.
Cortisol is the enemy of testosterone.
So, when one normally goes up, the other one goes down.
So, I was like, man, is it normal?
He's like, yeah, it's completely normal because you don't sleep as good.
You know, you're more stressed, more anxiety.
And it's naturally supposed to go down lower than the average.
If it doesn't do that, it's not normal.
So there are guys when they're in training camp, they boost that up to be higher, like in the higher average.
Yeah.
Which is cheating, man.
Is there, they're still doing it today, you think?
100%.
It's freaking corrupted bullshit.
How do they do that?
You know, like, there is all, where there will be money, there will always be corruption.
It's better than what it used to be.
When USADA got in, like, when I was competing in the first.
Part of my career was a free for all, free for all.
It was like a far west, like it was like in your face.
It was to be to be cut, you needed to be stupid, you know, like to be if you know because you know you've been tested that day of the fight, you need to be stupid if you get cut in the old days.
Then they they they make it harder, you know, they start implementing random testing, but even when it's random testing, it's very easy to to to trick because let's say I have a whereabout to fill up, you know, when I was.
When the USADA came in, you have to fill up a form to tell them exactly where you are at every time.
So if they randomly show up, you're there.
But let's say, because I figure out, I know how someone would cheat, you know.
Let's say you know you're going to get injected by a certain substance, you know, that will probably last a few days in your system, but the effect of it will last maybe for a month.
But it will be detectable for maybe a few days.
So, what you do in your whereabouts, you will say that you're going in Antarctica for a trip, which is not true.
But you say something like that, or in a country where it's corrupted, or where they're not going to pay someone to go find you to visit.
Going to North Korea.
Yeah, or I'm going on vacation, I don't know, somewhere.
But you're not really going on vacation.
You're going to get your juice, you know?
And then for.
These few days, you're out of the grid.
So, even if they come, they pay someone to find you where you're supposed to be.
What happened if you're not there?
They're going to call you, hey, you're not there.
You're not automatically banned.
You have one strike and you're allowed to have three strikes.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So, there's a lot of room for bullshit like this.
So, it's.
And I'm not trying to.
I'm not trying to put the system down to.
To insult anyone.
I'm just saying it is because I think it's wrong to criticize a system if you don't bring alternative ways of doing it better.
What I'm saying is very hard to have a perfect system to catch people who cheat.
It's very, very hard.
And where there's money, there will always be corruption.
Well, why don't they just let it to where all people are allowed to use them?
Or maybe have two different.
Categories where dudes can fight natural or dudes can fight on roids.
Have you seen the enhanced game?
I've heard about it, I haven't seen it.
It's very interesting.
There's a guy that won, he's actually right now the fastest swimmer that ever swim.
I believe the distance was 100 meters or 200 meters, like a very short distance.
He was purposely given a performance enhancing drug.
There were two competitors.
One was, I think, a far more champion, one was an elite.
Not a former champion, but an elite, you know, that is now retired.
And man, the guy who was not a former champion, the elite, came back, freaking beat the present world record.
So when people say, oh, it doesn't make a difference, that's the cheaters' excuse.
This is bullshit, man.
It makes a huge difference.
I've felt it.
I've trained with guys on it, and when they're on it and when they are not on it, Is huge, man.
It's not even comparable.
It's not even comparable.
What's the biggest difference, though?
Is it the power?
Is it the endurance?
Power, strength, endurance, creativity.
Really?
Also, your brain.
You know, you're sharper.
Because we have a say in, for example, I know you do jujitsu.
Yeah.
You know, when you get tired, every black belt becomes a white belt.
You know, when you get exhausted, tired, your level is not, your level drops.
You know, when you're tired, man, this is the base, this is your foundation.
When you're exhausted, you're not thinking of how I can attack my opponent, how I can defend.
You're not thinking of your.
Sure.
You're not sound, you're not sharp on your technicality, on your techniques.
You're thinking how to survive, how I'm going to breathe.
And, you know, the floodgates open.
So if you got that covered, you have more room for creativity.
It makes you just a better athlete.
Right.
100%.
Now, what about like cognitive enhancing drugs?
Like, are there any sort of drugs that people take that, like, similar to Adderall that keep people just like more focused or dialed in?
Well, that's what it does.
That's what the other stuff does.
That's what the thing does in MMA.
If you've got all that covered, you know you're not going to get tired.
You're sharp.
You feel like you're hungry.
How many days, how many times I woke up during a training camp and I'm like, fuck that shit.
I don't want to be there.
Almost every day of my training camp, it sucked because I had to go through very uncomfortable days knowing that when I get to the gym, there's an army of killers who's there to.
To trying to beat me up.
You know, I have to go through them every day and I'm not motivated.
I'm like, shit, I have to go through that every day until the fight comes.
Didn't you say like your trainer would bribe your opponents to try to like beat you during training camp?
Yeah, well, there's days to you keep the fight for fight night, but there's days that, for example, when I was training for a fight, the Friday was the hardcore sparring day.
So for eight weeks, I go through a cycle that.
You know, like a Monday, Tuesday, like every day I have a different schedule, you know, that evolve striking combat sport and grappling combat sport.
I work on specific things I need to work on depending on the problem I need to face, depending who I'm fighting.
But when comes Fridays, Fridays, the ultimate showdown, the testing ground.
And the guys that are brought in, their goal is to knock me out or to beat the shit out of me, you know.
And my coach, Ferras, he says, Hey, I'm going to pay you.
He wanted to pay my training partner, or because sometime when I was champion for a long time, I had the sort of a status of sort of a legend, and some guys were intimidated.
But when I brought someone in, Ferras was telling them, We're going to pay you extra money.
I'm going to stop the gym and praise you if you score a takedown or you beat up George or, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Damn.
To put more stress on me because you're trying to recreate that.
Stressful environment.
And it was extremely uncomfortable.
And I had to go through that shit.
But if you're on a performance enhancing drug, you wake up in the morning.
I mean, it still sucks because you know people are waiting for you, but you're more, you have more testosterone.
You're more hungry.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Like guys, guys there, some guys that I've trained with, I can't say the name, they've told me because I asked them sometimes, I said, what's the difference, man?
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Like, tell me how it feels like.
They're like, George, you have no freaking idea.
He's like, I'm taking the elevator and I hear the song in the elevator and it pisses me off.
I'm like, bro, I don't want this shit happening.
Yeah, because it changes you not only as a fighter, but in your everyday life.
Those guys need to adjust their fucking dose, bro.
You're a little too much there, buddy.
But you need to adjust your priority, right?
Right.
Would you rather be the best fighter in the world or a good person and destroy your personal life?
I'd rather have my personal life in order and be as good as I could be as a fighter, but I don't.
My family, my life is my priority.
Yeah, that's the crazy thing about you is like you're one of the goats and you didn't put all your eggs in that basket.
It's like, and even post career, you've like probably kept yourself together more than any fighter ever.
Well, it's because I planned it.
Unfortunately, especially in, I'm saying not only in MMA, but in boxing, all come like professional combat sport, the athlete, they retire way too late.
And normally they are forced to retire.
It's not them that they retire on their own.
They are forced to retire.
And it's very sad.
I planned it.
I'm like, I'm beating the game.
I don't want a game to beat me.
I took advantage of it.
You know what I mean?
And that's how it should be.
You know, you don't want to get, because at the end of the day, you're going to get screwed no matter what.
Nobody wants to be Michael Jordan on the Wizards.
They tell me, they will tell you, pass the torch.
Fuck that.
Not passing the torch.
I'm leaving with the freaking torch.
You know, I'm leaving with the title.
And I know a lot of fans will be like, oh, we knew it.
They're like, man, if the young guys listen to me, That's how it should be done.
Don't pass the torch.
Retire on your own when you're on top of your craft.
Do you think it has more to do with people chasing money?
Or do you think it has anything to do with losing the meaning or losing that adrenaline, that rush that you get when you're in the ring facing off with somebody?
It could be both.
It could be also, I would say, sort of an identity crisis.
Example, fighting is what I do, it is not who I am.
I don't define myself by fighting.
When I fight, I'm GSP.
The guy who's talking to you right now is Georges Saint Pierre.
I'm a different person than when I step in the octagon.
It's like Batman and Bruce Wayne, Peter Parker, Spider Man.
You need to be able to differentiate these two people, it's very important.
And a lot of athletes, because I speak to a lot of different athletes, for example, I talk to the Toronto Raptors, and a lot of them, I ask them, I have a one on one conversation with some of the players.
I'm like, what is your passion?
And a lot of them sometimes say, oh, it's basketball.
No, no, you, what do you love?
It's important to have a side passion.
For me, I love dinosaurs.
I'm very passionate about dinosaurs.
Paleontology, dinosaurs.
I'm a UAP geek too.
I love UAPs, you know, stuff like that.
I have a lot of other passion on the side.
My life doesn't only evolve around fighting.
Fighting is what I did as a business to make money.
Like, I like the concept of the art of war and everything, the science of it.
I love it.
I can use that and implement those same concepts into my everyday life.
But that's not only who I am.
But the problem with a lot of the guys, they see themselves as the guy who's fighting in the octagon.
You're not that guy.
They try to bring that into the rest of their lives.
Yeah, man.
You're not him.
You're more than him.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And it takes a lot of discipline sometimes to step away from that.
Because, you know, when you win a fight, it's such a high, man.
I can't describe what it feels like.
I never take a high, like, Like drugs and like high drugs, but I'm sure it's better than any crazy drug that you take.
You know, like the rush that you have is like, man, the feeling of achievement is just unbelievable.
But you had to go through that discomfort zone before that is unbearable in order to reach that high, that climax, you know?
Yeah.
It's very hard to explain.
It's a love hate relationship.
No, it makes sense, man.
But some guys, they love it.
Like they get addicted to this.
And then, after they retire, unfortunately, a lot of them get on drugs because they try to recreate that.
You'll never be going to be able to recreate that high again.
What you can do is to try to reinvent yourself and have your priority oriented towards another goal.
Yeah.
And it's not just in combat sports, too.
It's in other, like the NFL and those types of sports where dudes, like, they'll retire and they just go crazy.
Absolutely.
They get in violent altercations and end up, like, killing or fucking beating the shit out of somebody.
You know, like, you hear those stories every fucking day.
I love mixed martial art, the sport, the science of it, the camaraderie ad with my training partner.
Winning the fight, you know, the freedom that it gives me.
That's the reason why I did it, to have the freedom.
I didn't do it because I love to fight.
Fighting was the worst part of it.
But I had to, in order to propel me where I wanted to be in my life, to have the wealth, the health.
I'm very lucky, I'm healthy, but to have the wealth and the freedom.
That's why I did it.
I didn't do it because I love to fight.
I can't care less about fighting, you know?
I just wanted to have the freedom.
You still actively train all the time, right?
Yeah, I love training and it's very.
It's very therapeutic for me.
What type of training do you do the most?
I mix it up.
I train in different combat sports.
I do from karate, which is my base.
I do traditional karate, point fight karate, like striking.
I spar with the guys sometimes.
Some guys have a fight coming up.
Sometimes my coach is like, hey, George, can you give him a round?
Show him that I still got it.
I still have it.
Yeah, so I do that.
I do a lot of gymnastic, kinesthetics, sprinting.
I love sprinting.
Sprinting.
I just started sprinting too.
Yeah.
And I've noticed like a huge difference in my energy level.
Like, I watched this podcast on Mark Bell.
Mark Bell did a podcast with this woman who was talking about how sprinting basically gives you more energy and gives you like more cognitive energy during the day.
And it's like something about that super high intensity, short.
Short duration sprints.
It's like it does something.
Yeah.
I think it's important as we, especially as we age, to keep doing a workout where we do something as hard as we can.
Yeah.
As long as we can.
And in a way, like sprinting, you don't run a sprint for a long distance.
Like a sprint is very short.
And you're able in that distance to maintain the highest intensity you could have.
And when that intensity drops a notch, it's because it's not a sprint anymore, sort of.
I think it's important to do those intervals, and it gives you huge benefits.
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And it's something I've been doing all my life.
I'm a very bad sprinter.
I mean, I'm better than the average, but I'm not by no means close to any good sprinter.
I'm very bad, but I love sprinting because of the benefits that it gives me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like doing it on the beach.
I like going down to the beach and just sprinting on the sand.
It feels good.
It doesn't hurt your feet as much.
A lot of guys, they ask me, Hey, we're going to do this Ironman or this marathon.
Would you like to be part of it?
I'm like, No, I'd rather sit down and smoke a cigarette than doing this.
And they don't understand.
I'm like, I think because of where I am in my life, I think it will be more damageable for me to do a marathon than to smoke a cigarette.
I know I don't smoke cigarettes, but I would rather do that than do a marathon.
You know what I mean?
Just a preference for me.
I'd rather do keep it short and very intense than doing it extremely long.
What sort of like, are you still doing like the intermittent fasting stuff?
Do you have any sort of diet you follow now?
Yeah, I haven't eaten today.
Now we're like, You haven't eaten yet today?
No, we're like almost five o'clock.
Yeah, so I haven't eaten.
And I'm not hungry because I'm used to it.
I started implementing fasting into my life eight years ago.
After I was diagnosed, after my fight with Michael Bisping, I was diagnosed with ulcer colitis, which is an inflammation of the colon and intestine.
And I was on heavy medication.
And I'm not a big fan of medication.
We talk about the pharmaceutical industry and stuff.
I mean, I'm just like, man, there must be a way to do something about it.
And I met a doctor that got introduced to me.
His name is Jason Fong.
He wrote many books on fasting and he changed my life.
He's a nephrologist.
He treats.
Is a patient that has a certain type of diabetes with a fasting program.
Diabetes and stuff?
Diabetes, sorry.
And he gave me a fasting program.
And in less than a month, my symptoms diminished.
Wow.
In a way that I didn't have any symptoms not long after a month.
And I started after two months to reduce my quantity of medication intake until the point I no longer need medication.
And now I can eat whatever I want, like no problem.
So I don't like, I'm like, when you have ulcer colitis, you're supposed to be stuck for life with it.
Right.
It's something that doesn't go away.
And I'm the living proof that, I mean, I don't know if it went away, but my symptoms are not there.
I might still have an ulcer colitis, but my symptoms are not there anymore.
Right.
And now I can eat.
The reason why I'm fasting is not because I'm forcing myself, it's because it's just part of my life.
There's time that I go on vacation with my family.
I'm having three meals a day, like a breakfast, a lunch, and a dinner.
But normally, when I'm not hungry, I just don't eat.
And I wish, Danny, that I had that information when I was younger.
I wish, man.
Really?
Because I think we're bombarded as a human being.
And I believe as a human being, we're overfed.
Tell me which animal eats three times a day and snacks in between.
Nothing but us.
I think biologically, We're made for fasting.
If you look at our ancestors, I love paleontology, and I know that we went through the ice age.
Our ancestors went through the ice age.
I don't think they eat three times a day or they snack in between.
I think they were opportunists.
I'd be lucky to eat three times a week, probably.
Yeah, when they add something, they eat as much as they could and then they wait because they might not know when the next time they're going to eat.
So I think we're perfectly made for these, and there's a lot of benefits to fasting.
So, you typically don't eat until after four o'clock every day?
No, no, no.
Sometimes I eat, I will eat normally, I would say, around my first training, which is around the beginning of the afternoon.
Okay.
But I also met different specialists that told me that it's good to change it.
You know, sometimes it's good to do a three day water fast, but then after you eat, Your three meals a day, then you shock your body because it's never the same.
It's the same thing with training.
If you do the same training all the time, you will become efficient at it and it will not be as good for your body.
I think the key is you don't want to adapt.
You want to shock your body.
Right.
And four times a year, I do three days water fast.
Four times a year?
Four times a year.
After the holidays, before the summer, after the summer, and before the holidays.
It's for sure, for me, it's very important.
And in between, sometimes I will do a 24 hour or something like that.
I will shock my body.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I feel good.
And one thing I can tell you for sure, and it happened to me multiple times, where I had little nagging injuries.
For example, a few months ago, I had like Achilles tendon injuries.
And it didn't go away.
I did rehab and I couldn't sprint for a few weeks because of it.
When I did my three day water fast, all the inflammation went away.
And after my three day water fast, I was able to run again.
No way.
No kidding.
It's it, and I believe the reason why people don't talk much about it is because there's no money to be made.
Do you do the um, when you're doing the water fast, do you drink just water or do you mix it with like the lemon and the syrup and stuff like that?
No, if you do that, you break your fast because you add calories to it.
So, so when I do my water fast, um, Dr. Jason Fong he he advised me because I like to stay active, I i take salt.
So, what I do is salt doesn't taste good.
So, I took a little pinch of salt in my palm of my head, of my hand, lick it.
Take water and swallow.
Like a shot of tequila?
Yeah.
Yeah.
This guy?
Yeah.
He's the man.
Yeah.
He changed my life.
Yeah.
So you have to do the salt once a day?
No, I do it when I wake up, before my workout and after my workout.
Okay.
There's different symptoms that indicate that you might be dehydrated or, you know, like, for example, salt.
You take salt because you don't want to dehydrate.
Because if you don't take salt and you work out, You're not going to have any mineral to hold the water inside.
So, when you take salt, it prevents you from dehydration.
It helps.
And yeah, so the symptoms that you might feel sometimes when you do a long fast, a long water fast, is that you could be dizzy, you could have chill, you know, like you feel cold.
These are certain symptoms that indicate that you might not have enough mineral inside your body.
I did a water fast once and I did it for.
My goal was seven days.
I think I made it five.
Yeah.
I started Monday and I went all the way to Saturday.
Is that right?
Or maybe Friday.
Yeah.
And I remember the first two days being complete hell, misery.
And then, by Wednesday and Thursday, I felt like so amazing.
I just felt like so sharp, clear, energy, full of energy, just like bubbling with energy 24 7.
And I remember I, I'll never forget this.
I played on Thursday or Friday.
So, like four days in, I played full court basketball for like an hour straight with no cramping, no fatigue.
Like, I usually had to stop and take a rest every 10 minutes.
Like, I didn't have to rest once.
I had so much endurance.
And I also went to the gym and I was able to do like five times the amount of pull ups I could normally do.
I was just, I was, I just kept doing pull ups.
I didn't have to stop.
Like, I was not getting fatigued.
Well, would you, before I work out, Would you rather be like a hungry lion or like a lion that just fed?
Oh, definitely hungry lion.
Yeah, exactly.
Same.
You know, if you look at nature, you know, they train when they're hungry.
You know what I mean?
They're more vigilant, they're faster, the better at catching prey.
I think so.
Of course, you need to make sure you don't dehydrate yourself, you know, right?
Right, but I think you're more efficient 100%.
And I feel better that way as well.
I just felt that when I was younger, I didn't pay attention to it because if someone would have talked to me about fasting, I would not have listened because I would be bombarded by publicity.
Oh, take a protein shake, take this, take that.
And now I realize that it is very worth it.
To investigate, it could change people's life.
Have you ever messed around with exogenous ketones?
No, I did not.
Yeah, there's these.
So, obviously, you know what ketosis is.
Like when you're fasted, your body burns the fat instead of the carbs.
And they make exogenous ketones that you can drink.
They make it in a powder or in a liquid where you can just drink it and instantly put yourself into ketosis.
So, even if you've just eaten or whatever, or if you.
Haven't fasted long enough to be in ketosis, and you say you ate a bowl of pasta and you want to need to be in ketosis later, you can drink this stuff and it like boosts your ketone production in your body.
And it's, I'm drinking it, I got it in my water right now.
Oh, it's fucking amazing stuff.
I know, I know that when you fast, your brain feeds off ketones, which is very good, but you need to be in a fasted state for it.
I never heard of that, it's very interesting.
Yeah, no, it's great.
It's great for like if you want to, I use it for like pre workout.
If I workout, I'll drink the ketones first and it just gives me more energy and more endurance or like.
Sometimes during a podcast where I don't get enough sleep or whatever.
Yeah.
Because I don't, my diet is not as nearly as good as yours.
I have no discipline with my diet.
I don't have a good diet either.
Yeah.
The reason why I'm doing fasting is because I don't have a good diet.
Well, the fasting in itself is discipline.
That's, that's, takes a lot.
I mean, maybe not for you because you'd be doing it for so long, but for me, it takes a ton of discipline.
So I'm just like, my life is so chaotic.
You know, I have fucking three kids.
I'm constantly eating their leftover peanut butter and jelly sandwiches laying around the house and stuff like that.
So it's like, it's, uh, I'm just getting by day by day.
I'm just like, my little ketone drinks will help me get through the day.
Yeah.
I mean, everything you're trying to accomplish in life, it takes sacrifice, whether it's for health purpose or money, or you need to get out of your comfort zone.
And I like fasting also because it's very therapeutic.
It makes you appreciate.
You know, when I break my fast after three days and I sit down having a meal, even if my friend and family eat the same meal that I do, my meal will taste better.
Better than theirs.
100%.
And it's something that you really appreciate when you do fasting.
And when you do a long fast, for example, it's very strange.
The first few hours, you feel hungry.
Very often, it's because you have a spike of insulin, you know, because you're used to being fed at that particular period and you're not giving yourself the food.
So you feel very hungry.
Then, after a few more hours, the hunger disappears, but you have a drop of energy.
And then, after that, a few more hours during the last part of your three days' water fast that's what I experienced you don't have a regain of energy, like you're on sort of survival mode.
And that's when things get interesting.
And, um, yeah, and and there is a phase to it, you know what I mean?
Yeah, but of course, it demands a lot of sacrifice.
It's really interesting that you said that it helped recover your Achilles injury, yeah, because it kills the inflammation, it's very good.
To kill the inflammation and it boosts your production of growth hormone.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, if you look at it, there's a ton of benefits.
Do you ever mess around with light therapy stuff, like the red light stuff for injuries?
You see those panels, the red light panels?
Yeah, I have one in my house.
There's times that I use it, but I haven't seen it.
It might work, but I haven't seen a significant difference.
What I've seen the biggest significant difference in terms of recovery, if you have an injury, it's really fasting.
It sucks because it's the most.
Painful one, and it is.
Yeah, but I can't buy a device that will just help me cheat.
I know fasting for me, it's borderline magic.
I really love it.
What for everything that related to inflammation is for me, I think it's the best that I have experience in, better than anything.
Yeah, and I bet too, like, it's got to be way harder when you're traveling around the world all the time.
Well, I think the best time to fast is when you're very busy.
You were saying earlier that you have your kid, this, that, but I think it's the best time when you look at your schedule and it's full.
That's the best time to do it because you're going to be distracted.
Right.
And one trick also that I use when I'm fasting that was given by Dr. Fong is to drink sparkling water.
Really?
When you're fasting?
Yes.
And some people also, I don't do it, but some people, they need dark coffee.
I mean, they're addicted to cafe, which I am a little bit, but I'm able to drink those.
Fasting days to not having any coffee.
But if you have to drink your coffee, drink black coffee.
Black coffee, you can still drink.
Or tea, it's better.
Like a green tea, it's more recommended.
Yeah.
I notice when I travel to other countries, I feel, even if I'm not fasting, if I'm eating their food, I often feel like I just feel more energy.
I don't feel bogged down by all the gluten and the shit that's in the food over here.
And like, I can even go, like, if I just go to a South American country, I can eat pizza and french fries and I still feel light as a feather.
Yeah.
Their standards are better than ours, especially, for example, in Europe.
If you eat pasta in Italy or France and you eat the pasta or bread here, it's different.
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Way different.
Yeah.
They have a higher standard.
And you talk about fasting.
One thing that I do when I travel in a different time zone, I try as much as possible.
Because I'm human, I still do it sometimes.
I try to not eat in the plane, especially I try to eat at the time to the destination that I'm going at.
Right, yeah.
I do the same thing because we all know the plane food is dog shit.
You know, that plane food ain't coming from anywhere good.
They microwave all that shit covered in xylophane.
And it also makes you eat in a not a natural time.
So when you arrive at your destination, you're all fucked up because you ate at your previous destination times.
Right, you know.
So.
It doesn't help you to beat the jet lag.
You've been to Egypt, right?
Yes.
You've been to the pyramids?
Yes, I did.
Somebody was on this podcast and was telling me a story.
I don't remember who it was because I've had so many people talk about the pyramids on this podcast.
I went with Jimmy Corsetti.
That's who it was.
So Jimmy was saying that he was in the Great Pyramid with you.
Yes.
And you sat in one of the granite boxes in the King's Chamber.
Yeah.
I'll give you the picture.
And he said something happened to you after.
You had some sort of like.
Prophetic download, or something.
Well, I was always very interested in ancient civilization.
And I've read a lot of the mainstream archaeological books about the pyramids.
It's supposed to be a tomb for a Khufu that was built 4,500 years ago.
And I was never really convinced by that.
So I wanted to go see it.
For myself, you know, and when I was there, I was presented different evidence like a tool, like you could see, like a different tool mark on the rock that are clearly not made by a copper chisel.
Sure, and drilling a hole on rose granite.
That is weird, you know, like how is it done, you know?
And when you go into the pyramid, I mean, first.
You should not be claustrophobic if you go there because there's a passage that you go in there that's very tight.
Then it elarges a little bit, and then after you end up in the king's chamber.
And I went there and I had a special privilege that was given to me.
They made me lay down in the box.
You're not supposed to do that.
And I hope nobody will get in trouble because I've done it and I don't want to.
You know, the guy who made me do it, he was very nice.
And they blocked the passage.
So when I was laying down, the guy that was with me went on the corner of the room.
And the room is about the size of this one.
And he went, and I didn't know what he was doing.
I was laying down in the box.
And he says, they told me, close your eyes.
And I felt a vibration, but a very good vibration, like a very good vibration, like a.
Something positive.
And after I, when the vibration stopped, I got out of it and I made a joke to Jimmy.
I was like, I'm coming back to fighting.
It was a joke, obviously, no.
But I felt very re energized, you know, like because it was a very positive vibration.
And then they let people in again.
And I asked, I said, what the hell happened?
What was that?
It was that vibration.
And they said, there was a guy that went in the corner and he did the.
Like he did it just like this.
But I couldn't hear him, but I was feeling his vibration.
Whoa.
Which indicates to me, you know, if you're trying to prove something with evidence, there is objective evidence and subjective, you know.
Objective evidence is when you lay down, you know, solid proof.
I don't have that.
Like the only thing I can tell you is that I felt a vibration and it convinced me.
It was so good that it convinced me that it has something to do with acoustic or vibration or maybe harnessing the power of the planet.
I don't know, man.
I don't believe now.
I don't think, I'm not sure if it was a tomb.
I don't jump to conclusion.
I think it's important to collect all the data, especially now that you have this guy, Filippio Biondi, that has a tomography image underneath the Giza Plateau.
I don't know if you've seen that with the spiral, the thing that goes down.
I think it's like almost a kilometer down.
It's insane.
I think it needs to be investigated further before going, jumping to a conclusion and saying, oh, it's the tomb, a tomb for Khufu.
Because now I don't know how this could be only a tomb if you have all those things, you know?
It is bizarre how you felt that laying in that box in that chamber.
Because it's been proven that it's been measured by scientists that that chamber resonates at a certain frequency.
A certain hertz.
I remember Chris Dunn was on the podcast a couple of years ago and he was explaining, he said he was measuring it.
Yeah, he's in a, Chris Dunn is an engineer, astrophysician.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's an aeronautic engineer.
Aeronautic engineer, exactly.
Yeah.
And then he believes it's a power plant.
He was a power plant.
He believes it was an ancient power plant, a solid state electron harvester.
He thinks it was like harvesting electrons.
After having that experience that I had, I went there.
I didn't know, you know, I wanted to see it.
For myself, and after having that experience, now I am more inclined to believe Christopher Dunn than the mainstream explanation saying it was constructed to be a tomb.
I mean, yeah, it really doesn't make sense that, like, because the passages are so tiny and like, yeah, it's weird.
What do you need all these other passages for?
And you know, the amount of time that it would take to do it, it just doesn't fit.
It doesn't fit.
It resonates at what 111?
That doesn't sound right.
That's the Serapium.
That's why.
Oh, yeah.
Serapium is different.
King's Chamber, Great Pyramid.
Yeah.
It's a Serapium is the box.
That's the other side.
But this Serapium is another mystery.
Right.
There's tons of mystery in the world.
Like, I mean, you talk about Egypt.
You have the pre dynastic vases that are a mystery.
There's tons of it.
It's not only the pyramids.
The vases were debunked.
Pre dynastic vase.
Oh, they've been debunked.
I know.
I'm so sad.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm very upset about it.
We should not attach any emotion to it.
It is debunk, it is debunk.
You know what I mean?
So we had.
I was not aware of it.
Yeah.
We had a nuclear engineer or nuclear physicist on the podcast, and he's very much invested in those granite bases.
He was obsessed with this ancient stuff and he saw all the evidence for the granite bases.
And I wish I could remember this correctly, but basically, he found out that out of all of the granite vases that exist that we found inside of the pyramid and in private collections, there's people that, there's like lots of guys who have purchased a lot of these vases.
He's gotten access to the private collections and the vases that exist in the museums and he's measured them all.
And I could be butchering this a little bit.
So go watch that.
Find out that guy's name so we could.
What's his name?
Max Zamolov.
Max Zamolov.
We did a podcast with him.
And out of all of the vases that he measured, the most precise, perfect ones that were like they could only have been made on a CNC machine, those were modern vases.
They were made in modern times.
They weren't made in ancient times.
The ones that were like fucked up, not symmetrical, those were the ones that were ancient.
Oh, really?
I wasn't aware of that.
It doesn't necessarily prove that it's.
Debunked, but it throws a massive wrench.
But you know, it's important because the problem is people attach their emotion to an idea and they shouldn't attach the emotion.
They should just look at the data.
It's fun to speculate.
Like me, I'm the same way.
I love to speculate.
Yeah.
But is it a tomb for Khufu?
Is it made, I don't know, from an ancient civilization or alien or whatever?
Like, it's fun to speculate.
Well, look, we're all human beings on this earth and we all have access to the same evidence.
Yeah.
Right?
So, why is it that your explanation for it is superior to mine?
We can both see the same evidence and we can both argue.
And whoever has the better argument, you know, doesn't mean you should just because it doesn't fit the old story.
Doesn't mean that it has to be some conspiracy theory to label those person as kooks and anti academic.
That's not how it works.
You should be able to win the argument.
They clearly had knowledge or a technique that was lost.
This is undiable.
There's the Petri core that was found that Chris Dunn measured it, where it's a granite core that was taken out of a piece of granite.
Yeah, the revolution by it.
They wrapped a thread around the whole thing.
And they somehow determined that whatever drilled that must have had so much power to be able to drill that thing out of granite.
There's no conventional explanation of how they would have done that 2,500 years ago or 4,000 years ago, whatever it was.
But you know, Danny, there's no really good conventional explanation for the pyramid, for Saxe Woman in South America, for Baalbek.
I went to Baalbek and I saw the Triliton.
The temple of Jupiter is Roman, but the platform underneath, Where they have like 800 tons of stone.
They're called the Triliton, and they're not even on the base.
I was there with Jimmy Corsetti.
Right.
This is.
It's a one massive piece, right?
Bro, they brought it from a quarry that is like 400 meters in a hill.
Like, how the hell?
Yeah, they will say they use lug.
Maybe a few lugs will do if you bring something of a few tons, but they did it for 800 tons.
And there's even in the quarry, there's stone.
That are carves, but they were left there.
And the explanation is that, oh, these ones were too heavy.
So I'm like, it looks to me like the work was interrupted by something.
Like there was something going on.
They were in the middle of a construction and they got interrupted by something.
And maybe later on, the Roman came and built on top of it.
So that's the thing.
If you look at the pyramid, also the convention explanation.
They use different evidence from, like, the papyrus.
They have a papyrus evidence that the Egyptians work on, on the pyramid.
Right.
They labor.
You know, they were not slaves, they were labor.
And they say, oh, they brought this stone.
They describe what they're doing.
But maybe they were remodeling it.
Maybe they did not build it.
Maybe they, like, over the century, there are different civilizations that went there.
They repaired it.
They repaired it, you know.
Maybe that's what it is.
And I'm sure they did use it as a tomb.
Like, I'm sure they found this crazy monumental structure.
Maybe.
And they're like, we're going to bury our kings in there.
You know?
Maybe.
I mean, it's fun to speculate, but I don't know.
Like, I mean, I prefer, I love to speculate.
I prefer not to give any conclusion, keep it open.
Yeah.
But the conclusion that was presented to me that is a tomb for Khufu, it doesn't satisfy me.
No.
It does not satisfy me.
Have you ever heard of the land of Chem?
There's a guy named Jeffrey Drum.
He's a YouTube channel called The Land of Chem.
He lives in Egypt, right across the street from the Giza Plateau.
And he has the best breakdown, scientific breakdown explanation of what the Great Pyramids were.
And he also connects it to all the pyramids in South America.
And basically, what he thinks they were is they were chemical and industrial manufacturing plants.
He thinks that they were basically factories to extract the natural chemicals like ammonia.
And sulfur dioxide and things like this from the earth so that they could use it for agriculture and metallurgy and metal production.
And he's not just saying this, he literally backs it up like exactly how those pyramids, like he does diagrams of all the pyramids, like the red pyramid, the bent pyramid, the great pyramid, the middle pyramid, and the small one.
And with all of the chambers, he connects it all.
Like this one made this chemical, which then transferred to this one, which made this chemical.
And then this one transferred to these two.
And they used the chemical that came out of that for fertilizer, which could also be used for metallurgy and metal production.
And like he even ties in the different types of stones that are used in each pyramid and how those certain stones conduct electricity to specifically produce that chemical.
And it's just, it's so in depth and complex.
It's like, The thing about it is, it's not like it's not a sexy theory, like, oh, it was like a free energy power plant, you know, where they could distribute free energy and power flying saucers.
No, it's more mundane.
It's extracting natural resources from the earth, but it also uses electricity from lightning and telluric currents.
So he claims that, like, there were wind currents that were coming across the Giza Plateau and going up the pyramid and creating thunderstorms, and the lightning was striking it, and somehow.
They were, and he uses that to like tie into the agriculture side of it.
And what's interesting is he also uses that theory and ties it into different other ancient sites around the world.
Like, there's one in England, Whitehorse Hills, and then there's also Stonehenge.
And he makes a very compelling case to how all these ancient sites are tied together as far as like.
Creating storms to bring rain for the purpose of agriculture.
And he connects it to Mexico and South American pyramid sites.
And dude, it's an amazing theory.
It's an interesting theory.
One thing for sure that is puzzling is that they add knowledge or a technique that we don't know.
Like, I mean, this is.
They were on a totally different trajectory.
And you don't have to go back that far.
Just take, for example, you can look it up Greek fire.
Oh, yeah.
It was a weapon that was used by the Byzantine Empire.
It was described by many historians as so terrifying that people were afraid.
And it was like the equivalent of the atomic bomb for the ancient world.
The way it's described is they used to throw flame to an enemy ship.
And even if you go in the water, you keep burning.
They think it was made of a mix of.
Petrol, and you know, because it sticks to you and it keeps burning.
They try to recreate it today, but they don't know exactly how it was made.
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The cocktail was secret.
So, this is just as crazy.
We haven't found any texts to have the ingredients of it.
Yeah, because it was kept secret.
It was the Byzantine Empire that had access to that technology.
Find a description of it.
But it's probably much older, it could be much older than that.
There's tons of examples when you go in different archaeological sites that are puzzling, like how the hell they did that?
Maybe they had access to certain knowledge that we lost over time because of wars or maybe a catastrophe.
Just look at the Hermetics.
You know, the seven principles of Hermetics the mentalist, correspondence, vibration, you have rhythm, you have causality, the polarity, gender.
You know, now Hermetics, it's according to the source, it's born in antiquity.
But the root of it goes back far, far back, you know, like in ancient Egypt, Hermes Trismegistus, tote.
So, If you go back to the roots, man, how come they knew that at the time?
You know what I mean?
Those principles that now with science, we can apply that.
I'm sure you heard as above, so below.
It's one of the principles of Hermetics, it's correspondence.
If you look at things that are very small, sometimes it resembles the things that are extremely big in the universe.
This is one of the concepts.
But how did they know that back then?
You know what I mean?
There's tons of examples like this that knowledge.
That I believe was loss because of different reasons.
And I think sometimes people have the tendency to believe that our ancestors, when you go far, far back in the past, they were dumb, but maybe they were much smarter than we believe.
Dude, I had, hold on, I wanna read it with this Greek fire before I say this.
Greek fire was created, what was it?
It says, Syrian architect, the exact chemical makeup of the weapon is unknown.
However, the fact that water is unable to extend.
Leads some to speculate the active ingredients was calcium phosphide made by hearing, heating lime, bones, and charcoal.
On contact with water, calcium phosphide releases phosphine, which ignites spontaneously, actually making the weapon equally dangerous, if not more so, on water as it is on land.
That's fucking nuts.
They had back then, it's called alchemy.
I don't know if you've ever heard of it.
And you know, it's part of hermetics, the alchemy, the science of alchemy.
And even Isaac Newton was obsessed about alchemy.
Isaac Newton, one of probably the biggest, the best brain, pound for pound, best brain of all time.
So it makes you wonder, you know, like how much they knew, like what kind of knowledge they had back then, you know?
And I don't know when exactly, but I would love to see.
How the pyramids were built, how Baalbek, the platform on Baalbek was built, the temple of Jupiter, under the temple of Jupiter, Saksewaman, Deren Kuyu, Gobekli Tepe, Stonehenge, Machu Picchu.
I would love to see that, man.
Maybe there's something that we don't think of that maybe they had access to a certain technique or knowledge.
I have no idea.
I had this lady on recently who's a psychologist from Harvard and she.
made the case to me that the invention of the written word is the catalyst that could potentially spiral, that potentially spiraled humanity into chaos to where we are now.
And the case she made for it, the way she explained it was the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve.
And she says, the apple, the apple from the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge resembled Written knowledge.
And she said the difference between that type of knowledge and internal knowledge, like pure knowing something.
She says that by its very nature, the written word is deceiving.
Yeah, it's subject to interpretation.
Exactly.
So it is inherently deceptive, whether on purpose or not.
So if you write something down in.
The year 10 AD, and now here we are 2,000 years later, that it's nowhere near what the truth was.
And she thinks potentially that invention, the ubiquity of the written word being directly responsible for humans gaining knowledge, could be what led us astray.
From maybe what the ancient people knew and maybe what they were doing compared to the trajectory we're on now.
Yeah.
Because everyone who, when you want to know anything, when you want to learn anything, you're constantly digesting, reading books, watching videos, listening to audio, whatever.
It's not necessarily intuitive.
You're not using intuition.
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You cannot think outside of your frame of reference, right?
It's like, If I ask you, for example, to draw a monster, you might draw two heads, three arms, five legs, but you don't come up with something original.
So, what you're saying is maybe in their what they meant, it was something different than when we read, we see it as because we take it from our frame of reference, but maybe they have a different frame of reference that they could extract on.
Totally.
And not just the words can change over time, but the cultures change.
Of course.
And everything, the whole world changes.
So, like, and then you could have.
People that are trying to use it to their advantage, people trying to make money off of it or whatever it is.
It's just, it's in her point was just going back to that the apple from the tree of knowledge and like written knowledge versus intuitive knowledge.
Yeah.
Right.
And I mean, like, you know, like when you're fighting and you're trying to remember something versus not thinking, when your brain turns off, that's where the magic is.
Yeah.
When you're in the zone.
Yeah.
In fighting, you don't have time to think.
If you're, if you, If you're thinking, you're losing the opportunity.
The thinking is done during the preparation.
When you fight, you have to flow in the zone, be reactive, going by instinct.
We say instinct, but you sort of program your instinct to react accordingly to the problem that is presented in front of you.
And this is done during the preparation.
And there's different kinds of preparation for whether you're an athlete, a performer, a businessman.
I believe, and this is only me.
And it's a concept that really helped me.
There's a physical preparation as an athlete.
Like, are you in shape?
Are you injury free?
You know, your body is healthy.
This is the first layer, the physical.
Then you go up, it's like a pyramid.
You go up the second layer, the technical, your knowledge.
Do you know how to do an umbar?
How to escape a triangle choke?
You know, knowledge is very important.
Then you have a third layer, tactical.
How will your strength match against your opponent's strength?
How will you take him out of his comfort zone and bring him where you're the most comfortable?
This is.
And this layer, I think, makes the difference between champion and contenders.
And there's a last one that makes a difference, I believe, between the champion.
The guy's not going to be champion, but the guy's going to be a legend who's going to be like, going to write his name down in history.
It's the visualization.
And a lot of people will roll their eyes thinking it's sort of esoteric, but I truly believe in that.
It's part of the preparation.
I believe that you need to force yourself to visualize your success.
There's a book that was written called The Secret.
And I don't agree with their certain concept that they say, but I agree with some others.
I don't think it's the goal, your goal, that will come towards you like it's written in that book.
I believe it's you that needs to go towards the goal.
I think it's important to visualize before every fight, even before I start fighting, I was visualizing myself to do what I want to do to success.
And down the road, you force yourself to visualize, but sometimes what happens when you're in the middle of doing something, you have a vision that pops up in your head that is negative, where you see yourself failing.
Or let's say I have a fight coming up, I see myself getting dropped by a punch.
I believe it is very important when those visions pop up in your head.
To force yourself to see how you're going to get the upper end in the situation.
So you don't end the vision on a negative note because up here, you want to be champion.
You want to be undefeated, undisputed.
Because if you finish your visualization on a negative note, it will leave a scar.
And you have to always be the best up here.
I had the ritual that I used to do before every fight.
I'm not someone who's, how do you say, what's the word?
Like, I used to have a ritual that I used to do, but it was to prepare me mentally as a visualization.
Before every fight, I was trying to see.
Like a meditation?
It's sort of a meditation, but before every fight, I was like doing the same thing.
When I wake up the morning of a fight, I always have a shitty night of sleep because I keep rehearsing scenarios that might happen in the fight and it drives me nuts because of my obsessive compulsive nature.
Yeah.
So I wake up in the morning, I feel like shit, but I force myself to act like it's going to be a great day and I'm happy to be there.
So I wake up, clap my hand, and say, Today is going to be a great day.
And it's a little bit like a ritual because after I wake up, I meet the rest of my team for breakfast.
And they all know how I feel because they've been with me for decades.
They all know that I had a shitty night of sleep, that I'm nervous, extremely uncomfortable, but they are themselves playing their role in the play.
So they come to me and say, Hey, George, how was your night?
I had a great night of sleep.
Tonight we're going to kick ass.
I can't wait.
Oh, yeah, I feel you, man.
I feel you.
But they're playing their role because if someone doesn't play the role, there's a breach in the armor.
You know, like there is like a.
So we all play a role.
You fake it until you make it.
Right.
So I go walk.
So I like to go walk when I have access to the place where I'm going to fight.
I like to go in my locker room the day of or the day before.
I make a walk from my locker room and I try to visualize how it will be the crowd, everything, to try to feel that, how it's going to be.
So when I do that and it happened for real after, I feel like I have done it before.
So it's not the first time that it happened.
So I know the ending of the movie.
It's a good ending.
It makes me feel confident.
So I try to sort of self-hypnose myself for success.
And as I'm walking, I'm trying to imagine the crowd.
Then I go in the octagon, I shadow box, I try to think of different scenarios that might happen.
And then I finish, my coach raised my hand.
And then I go back in the locker room.
I imagine that the fight is over and I won the belt.
And I've been doing this through all my career.
And I realized that I even did it when I was a kid.
My mom used to, because when I was a kid growing up, I was bullied as a kid.
I didn't have a lot of friends.
And later, when I started having friends, my friends were not cool people, they were intellectual people.
And I was an intellectual guy as well.
You know, I was just a good athlete, you know.
With intellectual guys with huge traits.
Huge traps and cauliflower.
Yeah, I was not always like that.
But I realized that my mom did that subliminal hypnose for me at a very young age.
She used to buy a tape.
And before I go to bed, I used to listen to a tape.
You know, tape like saying, If you want, everything is possible.
I work hard.
I'm strong.
I'm beautiful.
And then after it lasts for maybe 15, 20 minutes.
And then after you have sound waves.
I used to listen to these tapes.
Every day before I go to bed.
Because my mom knew that I was a victim of bullying.
And I grew up with a lot of negativity growing up.
My dad was drinking, you know, it was a tough environment when I grew up.
Then it turns out, well, he stopped.
He really inspired me.
But the point is, there's different phases of preparation there's a physical, technical, tactical, and there's a mental one that I think.
People will not believe, but I believe that's what makes the difference between the legend and the people that go beyond being champion.
They make a legacy.
And I think it's very important.
You know, the power of your mind.
Yeah, it is wild how you can use your mind to visualize and sort of manifest reality.
Because when you have an idea, when you materialize an idea in your head, it has an effect on your emotion.
Yeah, and your emotion is what controls your hormones, your hormones control your actions.
Right.
Your action makes it real in the materialistic world.
So, the idea, which to the eyes of most people is not real, can in fact, through that process, make it real in the world we live in.
Right, right.
You can use tricks.
You can trick your brain in certain ways.
And this is, by the way, a concept of Hermetics, it's the mentalists.
All we experience is in our mind.
So, it's very interesting.
All those concepts come.
Yeah.
Come real, you know?
No, that stuff's really real.
That stuff's for sure real.
And I mean, I've used stuff like that too, like similar to you, like when I'm feeling, you know, when you feel not confident or fearful, changing the way you walk or the way you breathe, like just start breathing like you're confident or start walking like you're super confident.
And it changes your mind.
Like it's a loop, it's a feedback from your brain to your body.
James Lange, you know?
Yeah.
He says that.
Your mind can dictate your actions, you know, but also your action can transform you.
Yes.
From the outside in.
Yeah.
It works.
And very often in life, and I'm no different than anyone, I make the mistake as well because I'm sort of paranoid by nature.
Like, because maybe my background, I'm from fighting the art of war.
So I like to over prepare myself for certain things.
So by nature, When something happens, I like to be prepared, but sometimes I'm taking too much energy of expecting the worst to come and it creates more anxiety and stress.
So it's not always a good thing.
For a fighter, it's a good thing.
You want to be that way.
But for an everyday life, sometimes it doesn't help me.
It's very negative.
So I have to work on myself a lot.
Yeah.
You know, one of the misconceptions I had about jujitsu before I got into it.
Is I always had this idea that dudes who are like really good at fighting and stuff like this, they would have less egos.
Like it was a misconception I had.
And then when I got into jujitsu, I'm like, all these dudes have the biggest ego stuff.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, I walk into a fucking club and I could beat his ass.
I could beat his ass.
I could beat him.
You know what jujitsu means?
It's the art of softness.
Is that what it actually means?
Yeah.
To be flexible, to be soft, to be.
I know because it.
I have it here.
Oh, that's what that means.
Yes.
So it has a meaning.
Is that Japanese?
Yeah, it has a meaning.
It means that flexible in a way that you could be very nice, very cool, but also very rude, very hard.
Right.
And that's why I had that tattoo.
It represents me, but it's true what you said.
I mean, but for me, I feel that the more dangerous you become, the more you realize how.
The more you realize how vulnerable you are.
Look, I was world champion in MMA.
If someone who's strong walks behind me, tap me on the shoulder, and sucker punch me, he can knock me out.
Like, of course, if he misses me, he's going to be in trouble.
But what I'm saying is just that we're all human beings.
If I zig when I should have zagged and I get punched, I can lose a fight myself as well.
Of course, the odds are not on the other guys, you know, on the favor of the other guys.
But I'm just saying that you realize when you do martial art, How vulnerable you become.
So, yes, it helps your confidence.
You walk into a room, you know, you have what it takes to take care of business.
Yeah.
But on the other hand, it also makes you realize that, man, you could, you know, how easy you could, you know, finish the bad hand.
I would rather be the guy with overly confident who has the skill and the experience than the guy who's overly confident with none of it.
No, no, 100%.
100%.
But there's guys that are pretty badass, man, that, you know what I mean?
Like, you cannot judge a book by the cover.
What is it?
Is it.
Is it a real phenomenon?
Like, for you, like being the dude you are, like, have you ever gone out into public?
Is it common for people to try to like fuck with you more or try to like, you know?
It's very rare.
Really?
It's very, very rare.
It happens maybe two, three times recently.
Like, I mean, when I say recently, in the last maybe three decades, you know?
Maybe not three decades, but two decades, maybe three times.
But normally, I strongly believe that you attract.
What you send off the world.
I try to be respectful to everyone.
Yeah.
And I'm not a cocky person.
I am.
If someone trying to get in trouble with me, I feel the heat rising.
You know, I give it.
Yeah, yeah, it's fine.
For me, it's no ego.
I don't have that ego.
I don't.
You know what I mean?
And I was always very good, especially when I was fighting, to put a shield around myself.
Guys were trying to get under my skin because I always believed that I was the best.
And the only way they could win the fight is if I derail from what I'm supposed to do.
That's confident.
You know, I was extremely scared, afraid, but I was confident.
Remote Viewing Nuances00:12:19
It's different.
Being confident is not the absence of fear, being confident is knowing that you have what you need in order to succeed.
It's very, very important to differentiate the two.
Did you, was it common for you to question yourself or your abilities?
Was that like a common thing for you?
Or did you always know internally that you were the best?
You have faith in yourself, but you're never 100% sure.
It's normal to question yourself.
It's a little bit like for certain people, God or the architect of the universe, you know, the great architect of the universe.
Is there, is there, is there.
I believe there is one, but I don't have the solid proof.
Right.
I always believed I was the best, but I don't have the solid proof.
I need to prove it.
But before I prove it, you know, I don't know for sure, but I have faith in myself.
And also, sometimes you have to consider the fact that even if you're the best, you think you're the best, it's not the best guy that wins the fight.
Right.
Like in a game of basketball, you talk about basketball, it's not the best team that wins the game.
Same thing in hockey, baseball, basketball, like football.
The guy that will win the fight is the guy that will fight the best the night of the fight.
Because otherwise it would be boring.
We will always know who will win, right?
So that's why there is betting on us.
There are so many different variables, right?
Yeah.
If you zig when you should have zag, there are so many different things that can affect the performance.
So it's impossible to know.
Yeah.
And the real question, Like now, you get into the realm of philosophy and deeper into this.
Is do you believe in free will or do you believe in determinism?
Is everything predetermined like a domino effect?
Or is there free will?
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I want to believe that I have free will, but sometimes logically, if I try to reason on that, it's hard for me to have a good argument against causality.
Yeah, it's an interesting question, you know, because there is evidence that there's weird.
Have you heard of.
What are the dreams called where we predict the future?
People have dreams.
Premonition.
Yeah, like premonitions.
And people, there's been multiple verified accounts through history of people having dreams about things before they happen.
Like 9 11, there was a bunch of people who had dreams about that and documented it before the plane hit the towers.
Also, the Titanic was another one.
And yeah, like Michel de Notre Dame, Nostradamus is a.
Famous one.
Oh, really?
Predict the Second World War.
Yeah.
The thing is, it's hard with these things is that, is the.
Pre cognitive dreams.
That's the term I was looking for.
It's the interpretation.
Yeah.
Because they never say, right?
They never say, oh, this guy is going to do it.
It's never precise.
I mean, it's sort of vague, and it's after the event happened.
Oh, that's what he meant.
Sure.
So it's subject to interpretation.
Right.
That's why it's, I want to believe it.
It's like the UFO, the ancient civilization.
I want to believe in it.
Because I believe we're more than what we think we are.
But man, the logical part of me wants solid evidence.
The thing about it is, there's no.
It's probably not black and white, right?
It's probably just.
That's the way our monkey brains interpret it.
Is there free will or is.
Do we make our own future?
The answer is probably both or neither, right?
We probably just.
We aren't evolved enough or we don't have the senses to understand that it's probably far more complex than we can comprehend right now.
That's right.
And maybe a couple thousand years down the road, if we're not wiped off the face of the earth, we might have a clearer picture of it.
But it's almost impossible to say any one thing is absolutely true, right?
In most cases, there's lots of nuance.
When people do claim, have big, grandiose claims or scientific breakthroughs or conclusions like this, it's more sexy and it gets more attention, and people like to talk about it more.
And, you know, often the truth is in the middle.
So I think you're right about that, you know, those precognitive dreams.
There's a lot of evidence to support the claims, but also it's like these people like to all start coming out of the woodwork once it's already happened and they can say, oh, look.
We proved it, you know?
Yeah.
There's also documents that show that the US government, after the Second World War, spent a lot of money in remote viewing, using remote viewers to spy on the Soviets.
Because they found out the Soviets started their program first.
They were like, I think, a decade late.
So they were like, hey, if there's something really to it, we want to catch up.
Their conclusion was like, no, there's nothing to it.
Of course, publicly, that's what they claim.
Is that what they claim publicly?
They say they was like, I mean, you have a video of an audio, I think, of Jimmy Carter, the president, that talks about when they use a remote viewer to find a plane that crashes in Africa.
And it was accurate.
There's an audio on that.
Yeah, you can look online.
And I mean, I don't know.
I mean, you have very credible people sometimes that come public with incredible claims.
It's like Carl Sagan says incredible, like, like, incredible claims need incredible evidence.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, though, I've talked to remote viewers before from those programs back in the 80s and the early 90s.
And, you know, it seemed like it was a legit thing, but it's like, you know, how accurate was it?
From what I understand, is they had to have like multiple people focusing on one target.
And like they give them a time, they give them a place, and they all have to like, they all come up with abstract images, right?
So you have like 12 people that are focusing on a certain geography and a certain time.
And it's like, explain the smells, explain the emotions, explain anything that just comes to mind.
And oftentimes it was like vague, ambiguous, abstract ideas, but they would try to take it from multiple people and piece it together with real world intelligence.
So they'd have like, you know, human intelligence on the ground claiming X and to say, okay, let's try to corroborate it with these remote viewers and see if they can get anywhere close to what this other person was saying to see if it's.
Accurate, you know, but they spent so much money on it, yeah.
And it's like, why would they do that now?
They have satellites everywhere, there's like you know, thousands of satellites all over the planet orbiting the earth.
It's like, do they need to have a bunch of you know, a bunch of nerds in a room remote viewing?
I don't know.
I think now they're probably, who knows what they're doing with like psychedelics and stuff now, yeah.
That's, I wanted to believe, but god damn, it's hard.
It's, I don't know, or it's the same as, uh, have you seen the work of the doctor, uh, Diane NSC Powell?
On an autistic case.
That's the girl I was talking about earlier, the girl who was telling me about the written word.
Yeah.
She's the psychologist we had on a couple months ago, a couple weeks ago.
Oh, you had her on?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, she was fascinating.
She believes that there is something to it, right?
She believes there is a.
It's more than telepathy, she says.
She's like more than remote viewing.
They can sense sometimes someone who is very skeptical of it, though.
Really?
Yeah.
Of course, you should be.
I'm super skeptical.
I wasn't at first, but then.
I heard some pushback on it and I asked her about it as well.
One of the problems with it, with those kids who claim to have telepathy, is there can't be any stage magicians present.
So, a stage magician can do the same thing, right?
They're able to fake this in a way where they admit that it's, you know, we're pulling a trick off here, but to a layman person like me or you, we wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
So, a good way to test if this is real is to have somebody who knows how to fake it, like a real stage magician, to corroborate it.
But the claim is that the autistic savants that are doing this stuff, if there's any sort of skeptical energy in the room, it shuts down their superpowers.
So that's a problem, number one.
Yeah.
And another thing that I brought up with her is like, you know, she, one of the claims is like, you ever experience when you're thinking about somebody you haven't thought about in a long time and they call you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It happens to everyone.
Whoa, what was that?
That was like, you know, crazy synchronicity or something like that.
Yeah.
Maybe some psychic abilities, but we have a human beings inherently have a problem with probabilities.
We don't.
How many times have you been thinking about somebody you haven't thought about in a long time and they never called you?
Probably a fuckload.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But the one time they did call you was a huge, it was a meaningful event to you, right?
That stuck in your mind because it's so rare and it was so meaningful to you.
So it must have been something supernatural, something unexplainable, you know?
Yeah, you're right.
I have a friend.
His name is Chris Ramsey.
He's a stage magician.
Yeah, yeah, he's great.
I'm a fan of his.
He.
You know, he's like me, he likes to have the evidence, but he believes there might be something to it because there is certain things that he cannot debunk himself.
He told me, he's like, man, this one I really don't know.
It's hard to know.
You know, like that doesn't mean they didn't have a trick that he might not be aware of.
Right.
That's his wheelhouse.
That's what he does.
I would love to see Chris Ramsey get in the room with one of these people that do this stuff and just get his take on it live.
Have you ever seen the episode of the great James Randi?
He's a magician that used to debunk.
Uh, those charlatans, so he, you can go on YouTube and check it out.
He's a magician, and he used to tell people, I'm a magician and I'm gonna fool you, and you're not gonna see it coming.
And he was honest and he was performing his magic trick, but later on, he decided to debunk people.
Now he passed, he no longer exists, but it was great.
So he used to go in uh, sometimes in churches, and where you have the guy, his name was Popov, he used to have a healing crusade where.
The faithful used to fill up a card before the mess with their condition.
And he used to be prompted by his wife in the hearing with a mic, like something to listen.
And his wife was standing, okay, row seven, number five, you have a lady that has arthritis in her hips.
So he was like faking that he was speaking to God.
And he was like, you have.
Janet, Janet, row five, number six, stand up, please.
And then he's like, God is telling me you have arthritis in your hips.
And he's like, Oh my God.
And he's like, We're going to make the devil mad.
And he used to make people believe he was healing people.
Placebo Effect Reality00:06:43
But there's a thing that is called placebo effect.
Oh, yeah.
So the lady, you could see the video, she stood up.
Like she had a cane.
She came with a cane, but she stood up and she really believed that she's getting healed.
And she walks out the church with no cane.
Of course, after a while, when she goes back down, maybe the adrenaline comes down.
Now she's still in pain because she's like, shit, I'm not supposed to walk without my cane.
Right.
But it was great.
You had a show that he was debunking people.
James Randi.
That's fascinating.
Yeah, yeah.
He debunked a bunch of people.
Yeah, man.
The placebo effect is real, bro.
Yeah, placebo and nocebo.
It's very important.
So when I was talking about visualization, it's true.
There's an effect.
If you visualize something positive, it has like an effect on you, on your behavior, on your hormones, and your hormones can manifest in your action and become real.
But I don't know how big that effect could be.
Now, people that they claim ESP can have amplified those effects that oh, they can you know, like heal people or maybe read someone's mind or see the future.
This I don't know, it's hard to believe, you know.
It is.
I think it can certainly have a small effect, positive effect, you know, but to have that much of a big effect, I need the evidence for it.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I mean, there's been so many studies that have done, that have used placebo in a similar way, and people have had like insane benefits.
But you're right, like the long term effect doesn't usually stick.
And the same thing for the negative effect.
Right.
If you program yourself to be negative, you'll have, you know, the same thing the other way around.
I believe it's very strong.
Yeah, man.
It's fucking wild shit.
So, what are you doing for your podcast?
You're traveling around doing a whole bunch of episodes before you drop the whole thing or what?
Yeah, so I'm launching a YouTube channel very soon.
It's going to be two different channels.
One's going to be a vlog, and then one's going to be a podcast.
And the concept is that I'm going to meet my different people doctors, professional athletes, wellness experts, archaeologists, paleontologists.
You know, different people talk about different topics that I'm passionate about, and we're gonna.
The concept is me meeting them in their environment.
Oh, that's cool, and we get to know them better who they are, you know, who really are behind that what they do professionally.
Yeah, and then I sit down with them.
Once this is done, it's up the vlog, and then I sit down and I talk about the topics that I'm how many have you done so far?
I've done about a dozen.
Whoa, yeah, and I'm waiting to have a few in the bank, uh, like we say.
Because once you start putting it online, it needs to be on a regular base, you know?
So, yeah, I'm still learning.
I'm new with this.
Any episodes you can give me a sneak peek on?
Any crazy ones?
Yeah, I have one with Demetrius Johnson, who's Demetrius Johnson in mixed martial arts.
I believe, pound for pound, he's the best fighter that ever lived.
And while I'm here in Tampa, tomorrow I'm going to see Lane Norton.
He's an expert in nutrition, diet, and also he's a national champion in powerlifting.
I'm going to see after.
The day after, Royce Gracie.
Royce Gracie was the winner of the first UFC.
He was my idol growing up.
He's around here?
Yeah, he lives in Tempa.
What?
In Sarasota.
Yeah, he has a school, a jiu jitsu school.
Yeah.
In Sarasota?
Yes, sir.
No shit.
That's wild, bro.
Yeah, so I have a different story.
There's some very interesting people around here.
I don't know.
You know who really inspired me?
I mean, he doesn't know, but it sort of indirectly inspired me to do these things is Joe Rogan.
Because Joe Rogan, he has a.
Very successful podcast.
And for him, he does what he wants.
It's like going to school.
You choose what you want to learn today.
Today, I'm going to learn about, I don't know, ancient civilization.
I'm going to have this guy.
Or I want to learn about science.
I'm going to have that guy.
I want to learn about dinosaurs, paleontology.
Like it's cool.
And I think it's great.
You're having a good time.
You're still learning.
That doesn't mean I'm not always going to be, I will always agree with my guests, but they're going to have a chance to.
Show their point of view on different topics.
And I like to go on each side of the spectrum.
Having a guy who's a mainstream who believes like this, and another guy who has a different theory, but good evidence that needs to be good evidence.
Yeah.
Well, that's cool because you got such a diverse diversity of interests and things that you're interested in and that you do yourself that you could do like a.
A really cool show with like tons of different topics.
Yeah, it's fun.
It's, it's, it's, it's gonna be fun.
And, uh, you're gonna get Joe on there.
Yeah, I need to get Joe.
I need to.
There's a lot of fun.
It needs to be episode one, goddammit.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
He's a very busy man.
I mean, he's got his podcast.
He's a UFC commentator.
He's got the mothership, his comedy club.
Oh, God.
That dude's so busy.
It really inspired me because Joe now, he does whatever the hell he wants.
Yeah.
And I kind of respect that about him.
He doesn't give a damn.
He's like, you don't like what I do?
Just turn the channel, you know, and don't look at me.
And I respect that.
And I want to do the same thing in a way that I want to.
Do what I want to do, talk about the topics that I like.
If the guy, even if the guy is very popular, but I don't get along, I don't want to have him, I'm not going to do him.
I want to do the people I like and the topic that I'm passionate about.