Maxim Zamilov, a nuclear physicist and software engineer, theorizes the Great Pyramid was an industrial power plant utilizing 117 Hz acoustic resonance rather than a tomb. He proposes ancient builders used isotopes emitting alpha or beta particles to ablate stone via the Hutchison effect or levitate blocks through static electricity generated by spinning polyethylene rollers. While debunking perpetual motion myths and analyzing precise Egyptian vases as likely modern forgeries, Zamilov argues that unexplained infrastructure in St. Petersburg and Florida suggests an advanced, possibly extraterrestrial, civilization mastered non-contact machining to construct megaliths without roads or modern logistics. [Automatically generated summary]
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From Physics to Academia00:04:11
All right, Max.
Ben Ben Kirkwick introduced us.
He said that you guys have been working together on some of this vase stuff.
That's right.
And then I dug a little deeper and realized that you're a Russian nuclear scientist building a nuclear reactor in your basement.
I'm wondering why the hell the FBI hasn't got your ass already.
Well, they tried.
Are you really building a nuclear reactor in your house?
Yes, yes.
And you say this on public.
Out in the public, and the FBI doesn't like come knocking down on your door.
Well, I mean, they came, they took my phone and shit, you know.
How long have you been in the US?
Since '97.
Oh my God.
Okay, so for people who don't know who you are, so you're like a nuclear physicist.
What are you?
Well, it's a good question.
I have many hats that I wear, and I wanted to be a physicist all my life.
You know, I thought I was born with a God given talent for physics, and that's the track I kind of chose for myself throughout life.
It didn't quite work out the way I envisioned it, but maybe it's for better.
But, you know, long story short, when the Soviet Union collapsed, I kind of realized it's hard to pursue physics in the Soviet Union when physicists are selling sausages in the streets just to make a living.
So I decided to go into computers instead.
And I graduated from Moscow Institute of Electronic Engineering with a master's in computer engineering.
And I moved to the United States to work as a software engineer.
And America is a country of dreams.
You know, in America, you can be.
Anything you want.
That's why people come to this country.
And I thought, well, maybe I can be a physicist after all.
So I started working on my theory of gravity because I thought I'll show everyone how smart I am by proving Einstein's run or solving some of the mysteries of dark matter and dark energy.
And I did write a couple good papers, but I couldn't publish them.
And I went to a conference to meet a bunch of other physicists my peers, the people I cited, people whose research I read.
And I was just blown away by how repulsive those people were.
It was like a bunch of nerds.
Everyone wanted to be the smartest person in the room.
And nobody cared about the truth.
And that, when I realized, oh shit, science isn't about truth.
Academic science is about prestige, it's about grants, your standing, your reputation.
Nobody gave a shit about how the universe worked.
So I thought, well, not a chance in hell I want to be a physicist in these circumstances because I don't want to associate with people like that.
But I ended up working for Penn State.
Anyhow, because I was hired to teach software engineering.
So while I was at Penn State, I got a taste of academia and how it worked.
And I was very happy because I wasn't tenure track, meaning I didn't have to participate in the rat race.
Because I don't know how much you're familiar with the way academia works.
You are, when you are, let's say, a tenure track professor at a university, you are there for the benefit of the university.
So you need to bring grant money in to feed this bureaucratic monster.
And that's how you ranked.
That's how your performance is measured, how much money you bring.
Nobody cares what research you do or what mysteries you uncover, what discoveries you make.
It's how much money you bring.
And I was so happy I wasn't part of it.
I was just teaching.
I loved my students.
And I really got to meet some really exciting people, my colleagues who worked there.
And everybody wanted to do research so bad, but nobody could because you could get money for boring shit and really interesting stuff.
There is no money for it.
So I realized, well, if I want to make my mark in the world, I got to leave the university and I got to do something outside because universities exist for another purpose.
And that was also another kind of stint in my life.
I'm also a musician, or used to be a musician.
So that was the time when I was better known as Ultramax because I produced electronic music and I made CDs, vinyl records.
My music was on the radio.
And I had three shows at Penn State.
My inaugural was like 1,500 people showed up for the concert.
The Bitumen Startup Struggle00:03:50
And I was thinking, what am I going to do?
I'm going to do music for the rest of my life, or am I going to be like a physicist or engineer?
And then one day I wake up and I feel no interest in music.
It was like a cord was cut.
And to this day, I kind of reflect back on it and I wonder is it because when you try to turn your hobby into business, it totally changes?
Because when you look centuries back, the way science developed, it was a hobby of some individual Archimedes or Newton, they all had jobs.
And this science was a vocation.
They pursued it because they could not.
Not to pursue it, right?
And when you are doing something as a business, oh, you got to sell tickets, you got to manage the musicians, you got to organize the show, it just kills it.
So I think maybe that's what killed it for me.
So the decision was made.
I figure, all right, well, if I don't care about music, like yesterday I cared for it immensely and today I don't, then I'll do engineering.
So I started my first startup, which was devoted to nuclear fusion.
And I did have some friends and friends of a friend to put in money for the startup.
And we quickly realized, oh, we don't have enough money for fusion.
So, what can we do instead?
And instead, we chose to, believe it or not, work on heavy crude oil upgrading.
And that's kind of the funny pattern in my life.
I tend to start various projects from scratch, and I often start and I don't know nothing about it, but I learn about it.
And at the end, I'm like sufficiently experienced to compete in the space.
So, the crude oil upgrading project was a success.
But it was a lesson in another part of life.
Crude oil upgrading project.
Yeah.
How does that work?
Basically, in Canada, they produce bitumen.
You know what bitumen is, right?
It's the stuff they put on the road.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, this real sticky, gooey stuff.
And it's practically solid.
So the problem is that, you know, how do you transport it?
So there is this Keystone pipeline that goes to the United States from Canada, which there are actually two pipelines.
One pushes this bitumen, which is diluted with gasoline, and the other returns gasoline back to Canada.
So, about half of the pipeline is this gas flowing back and forth because you need a carrier to move this, otherwise, you know, solid material.
And I figured out a way how to reduce the viscosity of this bitumen where it flows on its own.
And, you know, I've built a miniature petrochemical plant, and Shell and some other major oil companies, you know, caught a whiff of what I was doing.
They visited and they really liked the technology and they wanted to buy it and bring it to Canada.
And I thought, oh, I'm going to be rich.
That's my moment in life.
And what happens?
2015 happens and the oil price crashes from $200 per barrel to like $40 per barrel.
And that wiped all of my customers.
Like overnight, all of the business opportunity was liquidated.
And I'm like, shit, you can do everything right.
You can develop the technology, you can build it, you can bring this major oil companies.
And start them salivate over it.
And then your business opportunity evaporates and nothing matters.
So that was a pretty big life lesson to me that really threw me into like a spiral because I've never like failed before up until that point.
So, I thought I was invincible, you know, I could do anything.
And this happens.
So, it was, of course, you know, a pretty painful experience.
So, I shifted gears again.
I said, okay, I'm going to move to Florida and I'm going to do something else.
I started building houses.
A Painful Life Lesson00:06:41
You know, it's a fun activity.
You know, I'll just work outdoors with my hands.
I will not use my brain.
My brain will rest and my soul will recuperate, you know, while I work with my hands.
And I worked on a beautiful project on an island.
You know, I was renovating an island house, I was taking a boat to it.
I really fell in love with Florida lifestyle.
So, you know, take a boat in the morning, you know, you get to this island, you know, where you work in this tropical paradise.
So, I was working as a carpenter basically.
You know, coming back, you know, I freaking loved it.
But after doing it, you know, for a few years, I thought maybe it's time for me to go back to what I always wanted to do.
And that was, you know, nuclear science.
Sorry for the long kind of story.
But I circled back and I thought, well, you know, before when I started my company, I hired people to do work for me.
And that was good and bad.
Good is because you delegate stuff.
But bad is because I thought people were good at stuff that they were doing.
And what I've learned, one of my experiences was that people pretended to know things and they didn't.
So I thought, okay, well, I'm going to learn everything there is to learn about nuclear science and I'm going to do it all myself.
That's why the knowledge is concentrated in one place and I will know all of the answers to all of the questions.
And very quickly, I realized that, oh, there is no hardware, suitable hardware, because a lot of nuclear stuff is archaic.
Developed in the 60s, you know, there's big power supplies, you know, weird blocks, you know, nothing really meshes together.
And of course, you can buy state of the art stuff, but then it's a small fortune.
Like every piece you purchase is like $100,000.
You know, I'm not that rich.
So, okay, I'm going to develop, you know, the hardware myself.
Hardware for neutron and gamma detection and in nuclear science, everything is about radiation.
It's in a radiation is your mark of what's happening.
How do you know that, you know, what's going on in your reactor?
It's radiation.
So you measure radiation, and I, you know, built hardware to measure radiation and I made it user friendly and I wrote software for it because I'm a software engineer.
And I realized, oh, you know, shit, other people want it too.
So I started, you know, selling it and my business kind of grew from that.
So Maximus Energy is my company.
And that's where I offer this equipment that I make for sale.
So, you make, you manufacture the nuclear equipment.
Yes.
And who do you sell it to?
Universities, like all major universities in America, pretty much bought it MIT, Texas Tech, Purdue.
So, I know a lot of people who work on nuclear science.
And some buy it for their research, others buy it for their students to teach them about radiation detection, about neutrons, about gamma radiation, things of that nature.
Also, used it for obviously is for my own research because that was the motivation.
So, the selling of the equipment kind of became a way to fund the research because research takes money, right?
So, you need to buy supplies and chemicals and shit.
And I was happy to realize that people wanted to have my equipment because that helped me fund my research.
So, I started running these experiments that I couldn't run before because before I didn't know anything about.
Vacuum equipment, about plasma, about nutrient sources.
So I learned all of that and started running my own experiments.
And that's kind of another, I would say, key part of my life.
Like throughout my life, you know, like you, I'm a very open minded person.
So when somebody tells me something exciting, I tend to believe it.
Like this Vase project or, you know, ancient aliens or things of that nature.
You know, I tend to believe these things.
But because I'm a, you know, scientifically oriented or engineeringly, you know, leaning person, I usually verify things that I believe in.
Because, you know, to me, what makes life, you know, the most exciting is learning.
You know, learning the truth about the world.
Because, you know, when you know the truth about the world, it makes your life easier.
You know, gravity pulls you down, right?
So, you know what happens if you walk off the cliff, right?
And if you don't, you know, your life is miserable.
So, I kind of feel on an intuitive level that that's what curiosity is.
You know, you want to understand life better on all levels.
And when somebody tells you something wonderful, you have a potential to expand your understanding.
But do you believe it at face value or do you really sink your teeth in it and research it and dig in and realize whether it's true or not?
So, throughout my life, even before I started my company and when I was still teaching at Penn State and even before that, I was reading other people's papers and books and taking their ideas seriously.
And for a long time, I was going to Russia to my alma mater where my father in law has a lab.
And I was working every summer in his lab trying.
Other people's ideas.
What kind of lab?
He has a lab devoted to high temperature superconductors.
So it's pretty badass.
But to me, it was like an electrical engineering lab.
In St. Petersburg?
In Moscow.
In Moscow?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
So we were still living in Oklahoma, I think, at the time.
But then, you know, we moved to Pennsylvania.
But I was going there like every summer.
What year?
Maybe 15 years ago.
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And I'll tell you one anecdote.
Like one of my summer trips to that place was I read a book by Joseph Newman, who purported to have developed not exactly like a perpetual motion machine, but pretty close.
It was called Newman's Motor.
And the idea was you have this giant coil.
Like 20 miles of wire, of copper wire.
So, of course, you know, I started by winding the coil, right?
So, for a couple of days, I was just turning the crank, winding the damn coil, which was like 50 pounds because it was just huge.
And then you have this magnet inside, and then it turns.
And there was this commutator.
And the trick was the way you turn this magnet and the way the commutator connects and disconnects the magnet, so it was generating some high frequency current pulses.
And then Newman says, All right, well, when you hook up the oscilloscope, you see this pulse, the current pulse.
There are actually two pulses.
One pulse is the power into the coil, and then the other is.
Power from the coil.
And when you look on the oscilloscope, on the old analog oscilloscope, you could see that the input pulse is barely registering, meaning the thing draws very little power.
But the output pulse is huge.
It's like, you know, gigantic, and it's all that you see.
Right.
And then there was some point, you know, when I finally assembled everything and I see this on the oscilloscope.
So, like, damn, you know, this guy was right because I see exactly what he described.
But, you know, you take it to the next step.
If that is the case, yeah, yeah, you got it.
It wasn't quite large in my case, but it was substantial.
But if you get more power out of it, it means it should run on its own, right?
So, what I do, I hook up capacitors to it because I know it will charge the capacitors and then I can loop it back to where I can unplug it from the receptacle and it will run on its own power.
Perpetually, basically, yes.
So, one day I come in, I hook up these capacitors, I get it going.
And I see it starts accelerating.
And that's what you expect when you generate energy out of nothing.
I see it accelerates.
So I slowly unplug it.
But my plug was like split, two wires.
It was like very makeshift.
So I pull one wire and the thing doesn't stop.
And I'm like, wow, it's already disconnected.
I disconnected from the phase.
The electric power, you have phase and ground.
So I disconnected from the phase.
But the thing still accelerates.
I called my father in law and said, Look, are you saying what I'm saying?
Are you saying this telescope pulses?
Yeah, are you saying this thing runs on a single wire and it keeps accelerating?
He says, Yeah.
So he patted me on the shoulder and gave me this patronizing smile.
I said, Well, keep looking at it.
And I'm like, I'm going to come back to Penn State.
I'm going to present this shit.
It's real.
We're going to change the world.
So for a couple of days, I was like, I'm on drugs.
I feel this because it's exactly like he described it.
And one day I'm, oh, I still have this ground wire in it.
So, what happens if I unplug it?
So, I unplug the ground wire, and this thing slowly decelerates to a stop.
I'm like, shit, what's going on?
So, I start digging into it some more, and I realize every time you have AC power anywhere, you have induced electricity because power lines, you know, they generate magnetic fields, and these magnetic fields create.
Induced power in any conductor, especially if you have ground.
So you will have this induced power from your power line in the ground.
It's called ground loop, basically.
And this is a common problem when your grounding is poor, because very good ground, all of that just goes into ground without registering.
But if your ground has some resistance in it, you will see this small power variations on your ground.
And that's what was powering in a Newman's engine in my case.
So it was drawing power from the ground, and the ground was inductively coupled to the power in the building.
So it wasn't running on its own energy.
And then I realized that.
I realized that his oscillogram wasn't correct.
Ground Loops and Power Lines00:13:13
There were some high frequency oscillations that didn't really register on print.
But if you zoom in on the scope, you see.
And if you integrate the power, there is no power.
It's just an illusion.
And that was a very important lesson because I learned that two things happen.
People either lie on purpose when they come up with these wonderful ideas, and they lie on purpose because they want attention or because they want to defraud investors.
Yeah, and some people, sometimes people are just fools.
You know, they don't have enough training, enough expertise to really know what's happening.
Yeah, and I would say there is also a third kind is when people don't have training, but then they're not motivated to go deeper into the problem because then it destroys the narrative or destroys the idea.
Right.
And unfortunately, that's a pretty big sociological problem.
Especially in the case of inventors.
Because as an inventor, you want an investor to fund your project.
And that's why you're not motivated to find flaws in your design.
Because then an investor would look at it and say, oh, maybe I should have not funded it.
But then it doesn't help you to build a product.
And unfortunately, most of my colleagues in Russia are that way.
They have investors here and there that give them money or donate money.
And they present their results, and I scan their results like diagonally because I've looked at so many results so many times.
I know where the flaws are, and I see those flaws.
And when I mention to them, they kind of lower their eyes and switch the subject.
So I've become a little cynical about this whole situation just because of every problem I looked at, and I was able to punch a hole.
And that's why about five years ago, I said, enough, I'm not going to.
A look at Newman engines or someone's anti gravity device.
I'm going to work on my own stuff.
Anti gravity device?
Well, believe it or not, I worked on those too.
Wow.
They got those in Russia?
Of course.
It's the biggest source commercially available on the internet.
You can purchase a kit.
Well, I'm being cynical, but it's for real.
If you believe the internet, let's say if you are a believer like me and you do not scrutinize, a friend of mine actually bought one of those units.
Because there is a young guy on the internet selling his anti gravity kit.
Really?
Yes, yes.
I wasn't aware of this.
Yeah, and he bought it and he built one against my advice.
Of course, it doesn't work.
And it's pretty clear that everything was staged and made look.
But the thing is, some people have better stories than others.
And some stories I believe in because, well, you got to believe in something, right?
So we don't know everything about the world.
So I do believe in anti gravity and we can talk about what I believe in it.
But it doesn't mean that whoever shows you a flying saucer is really flying.
It probably means he's got some wires or some.
You know how to make film.
So I'm pretty sure if you look at his reels, you'll know the techniques he used.
Because I talked to another guy, he's also in filmmaking, and he was able to tell me those were textbook techniques that he used to go off the frame and do some.
What are you talking about specifically?
What film?
Or what video?
I don't remember the guy's name.
Okay.
It's some Russian guy, and he sells this like flying saucers that.
Oh, okay.
He purports to be of anti gravitic type, and he shows demonstration.
So he launches it, it's flying, and then he sells a kit.
Right.
And people buy the kit and trying to recreate it, and of course it doesn't work.
Yeah.
And I'm thinking, you know, science is hard enough, you know, why do you do it?
And I understand, you know, why people do it because they want to make money and whatnot.
But, you know, for someone who is like searching for truth, it doesn't help because it, you know, creates noise.
And confounds the situation.
So that's why, about five years ago, I started working on my own ideas, which involve nuclear fusion.
And I've built a reactor home, which I'm currently developing.
And then here we are talking about it.
And you just got to believe in yourself.
So, why did you build a nuclear reactor in your home?
Well, because I. Is that legal?
Yes.
Okay.
Absolutely.
It is funny how a lot of nuclear science is not only legal in the United States, a lot of licenses are compulsory.
For example, I can buy a lot of radioactive isotopes and they're mailed to me in ordinary mail.
And sometimes they're not even labeled because it's all regulated by activity.
If a certain isotope has so little activity to where it's beyond harmless, you don't even have to label it.
If it's within a certain range of activities, you just label it as potentially hazardous.
If it has a lot of activity, You put another label.
And if it's substantial activity, you might need to get a license.
But some licenses are compulsory in the sense you apply for them, they give it to you.
So I have some sources that were licensed on that basis.
So it's not really the research wise.
If you do research on your own, there is not a lot of red tape.
And that's why I had to quit university to do it.
Because if you do it at university, there's a lot more red tape.
Because health regulation, radiation safety regulation, and even though We're never approaching the dangerous limits because one thing about nuclear science, unless you have a power plant size reactor, it's all barely registers.
That's why you need detectors to detect it.
Nothing glows, nothing is hot to the touch.
You don't have the demon core in your building.
Yeah, basically, you don't, yes.
So it's like research purpose is harmless, but at a university, it's just a crazy amount of stuff you need to do to get that done.
So I'm very happy that I can do it.
And without violating anything.
So, the reason that you decided to build this was to measure these ancient Egyptian artifacts?
No, not really.
I wanted to build the power generating reactor.
Okay.
So, my end goal was to design, you know, that fusion is a hot topic now, right?
So, everybody, there are a bunch of companies that pursue nuclear fusion, right?
Because the idea is that's the next.
Next power source will be fusion.
And whether it's true or not, it's a different story, but that's the tendency.
So I thought, okay, well, I'm going to build my own fusion reactor, but everybody is like a multi billion dollar installation that size of the commercial building, because that's the conventional approach to nuclear power.
And I thought, well, I can do it cheaper and smaller and will fit on a desktop.
So it's not going to be a billion dollar reactor, it's going to be like a hundred thousand dollar reactor.
And maybe instead of producing like a gigawatt of power, it's going to produce 100 kilowatts.
But 100 kilowatts is enough to run a house.
You can run your AC on it, or you can put it in a vehicle, or maybe you can scale it up, put it in a truck or freight train, something like that.
So I decided to build that's my interest, my engineering interest is to build a commercial fusion power generator that's small, compact, and inexpensive.
And in order to do it, I had to pursue a different approach because everyone's approach is either magnetic confinement or Inertial confinement.
And without going into too much detail, these approaches are technically challenging.
So you need 100 PhDs or maybe 1,000 PhDs to work on a project like that because nature doesn't want to do it.
It's unnatural in the sense it happens in the stars.
But what's the difference between the star and something that you build?
The size, right?
So the reason it can happen on a stellar scale is the size of the star.
So the gravity holds it together.
It works.
So, if you want to do it like on a commercial scale and build a power plant, you need to overcome this physics that's missing.
And that's where 100 PhDs come in because it's not an easy process to do.
And that's why it's $100 billion.
And every year we're promised it's only like 10 or 15 years away.
And it's been like 10 or 15 years away for the past 40 years.
It's a running joke in the industry.
So, I thought we need a different approach to it.
And because my background is in ultrasonics, I figured that I could use sound.
To make fusion work.
And that's not my idea, somebody else.
Sound to make fusion work.
To make fusion, yes.
I think the idea was originally proposed by, what's the guy's name?
Like in the late 70s.
My memory is not cooperating right now.
Maybe I'll remember the name later.
But a researcher in the 70s proposed it and patented it back then.
You're talking about the sound fusion idea.
Yes.
Maybe you can find it, Steve.
Commonly used term is sonofusion.
Sonofusion?
Yes.
Oh, wow.
Yes, Flynn.
Exactly.
Hugh Flynn?
Yeah, in the 70s.
Right.
So he patented it in the 70s.
And the idea is you know how sound can push things?
Yes.
So if you concentrate sound in a spot, you can compact matter to where it's going to be hot enough for nuclear fusion to take place.
And from that, basic.
Arrangement, it makes perfect sense because that's what inertial confinement is.
In inertial confinement, scientists use lasers to radiate a fusion target, and those lasers compact the fusion target.
But Flynn figured, well, I'll use sound for this purpose.
And later, I think in the early 2000s, another researcher by name of Telly Arkin, who was at Oak Ridge National Labs at the time, Actually, he published a paper in Science that was explosive because he said, Well, I got it to work.
So he took Flynn's idea and he basically showed, Sure, it works.
And he got hired by Purdue because it was a big deal.
It's like a new avenue to do fusion because before that it was inertial confinement, magnetic confinement, and now we have sonofusion.
And capital cost was like a fraction, just a tiny amount of money you need to make a sonofusion reactor versus, let's say, plasma to come back.
So at Purdue, unfortunately, when it happens often in science, the interest of different research groups collided and a scandal erupted.
Basically, his research was threatening another research funding.
So the representatives of this other group, I think it was like Princeton Plasma Physics, they came and asked him to hold the publication.
And he didn't because he was afraid that somebody else would beat him to it.
And the people said, Look, if you're not going to hold your publication, we may not get our funding.
Could you just hold it and then we get our funding and we'll support you?
And he was foolish enough not to.
So they took his vengeance on him and they basically discredited his research.
And it's a long story.
It's called Santa Fusion.
I wanted to say Santa Fusion confusion, but it was some other term used in the industry.
You remember the cold fusion debacle and then the Santa Fusion.
And part of the problem is not so much the research was problematic.
It's like a human factor.
People fired over money, people fired over prestige, people fired over ideas.
So the bottom line is because of that scandal, Taliyarkin was deprived of his funding.
He was disallowed to have students.
He couldn't be fired because once you're at a tenure track, you're immune from being let go.
But he couldn't do any research.
So his life was ruined.
But I believe his ideas were correct.
Santa Fusion Confusion00:03:22
So, I wanted to build on them.
I started not exactly where he left off, but I incorporated a lot of the ideas that he put in into his design and added my own ideas.
And about three years ago, I detected neutrons.
That's how you know that you've got your reaction without your house blowing up.
One of your nuclear detectors starts reporting counts.
And the main signature for a nuclear reactor is neutrons.
So, neutron counts tell you whether your reactor is working or how many counts, meaning how efficiently it's working.
Okay.
So, I started registering massive amounts of counts and I basically demonstrated the proof of concept that my idea worked.
And I wrote a paper and published it in Nature Scientific Reports last year, and it became like one of the top downloaded papers in the top 10% in the journal, which is a Created a lot of interest in other people reaching out to me and asking me about my research.
And now I have a partner who lives here in Venice, who is my Russian compatriot.
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Let me help you in your research.
So we formed a company recently called Maximus Fusion Systems and we're going to focus on trying to.
Push this research further towards commercialization because when I was working, it was more of like a research project.
Sure.
And now, with him and maybe with a third person coming in, we are hoping to become more like a venture where this is not just about research, but the goal is to produce a product at the end of this track.
And it will be this desktop based nuclear fusion power reactor that you can put in a car, in a truck, or maybe in a ship.
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And so the idea that you can actually detect neutrons with your reactor means that it works and you can produce energy with the thing that you created.
Yes.
And have you applied this to anything?
No, not yet.
Okay.
But I was going to, because there is a connection here, you know, with Egypt, right?
And my wife, Veronica, She always kind of said, Well, how the pyramids were made.
You got to look into pyramids.
She kept nagging me about it and I was dismissing it.
And then finally, I got to watch the videos and that's how I came across in a band with Kirkwick.
Yeah.
And watched a bunch of his videos.
Like the power plant theory from Chris Dunn and all that stuff.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
But when I started watching those videos and soaking in those ideas, they started.
Like meshing with my own thinking about nuclear physics, about sound, because sound was my background.
So they mentioned sound and standing waves and how these waves interact.
And I started thinking, well, this makes sense.
This makes just so much sense.
I started watching these videos obsessively.
Yeah.
Well, Chris Dunn was an aerospace engineer before he got interested in the pyramids.
And then he was looking at them, looking at them from the inside, looking at the diagrams.
And something just struck him that told him, look, this thing's a machine.
And coming from a person who has been trained in engineering and building things that are supposed to be functional, it's just super compelling that he was drawn to that and drawn to come up with that theory, that power plant theory, which he's revised in his new book.
But it's always really cool to see people from outside disciplines, outside of like Egyptology, people who are interested in energy or mechanics or engineering and stuff, to actually take an interest in this stuff.
And, um, And to talk about it and explain what they think.
Absolutely.
And that's why, you know, I kind of always liked ancient history, mainly due to the fact that there is a big group in Russia called Laboratory for Alternative History.
I'm sure you've heard of them.
In Russia?
In Russia, yeah.
It's like an enthusiast ranked community, and they go on expeditions and they do science.
And I think science should belong to citizens, to enthusiasts, to amateurs.
I don't really like, you know, the idea of.
Academic professional science because until the 20th century, all scientists were amateurs.
They all had jobs elsewhere.
Some were just independently wealthy to where they didn't have a job, but most had a job.
For God's sake, Einstein had a job, a patent clerk.
So I think it's the natural state of affairs.
Yes, that's them, is when you are just driven by your curiosity.
And that's what that group is.
They're driven by curiosity.
So they put out a lot of videos where they showed how a lot of these ancient structures.
You know, pyramids or, you know, Peruvian megalithic walls.
They just don't make sense from the standpoint of primitive civilizations that they are ascribed to.
And I really saw, you know, the idea behind this statement.
And as an engineer, you know, I understand what it takes to build things, right?
So somebody shows you a 100-ton block and they tell you that.
You know, a horse and a donkey moved it, or you know, a couple people who were basically naked and no shoes moved it.
It kind of strains credulity.
You know, I don't want to say it's impossible, but you know, you scratch your head and you say, like, really?
You know, we cannot do it.
So that really sold me, you know, to this idea.
So then when I came across Ben's videos, that was just like icing on the cake, you know, jet fuel to the fire.
So I was very, you know, excited to reach out to Ben.
And I'm glad that he actually responded and he came.
He visited me in Naples, Florida.
Did he tell you that story?
I think he might have told me that the first time he came down here to do my podcast, I think he mentioned that he was going to see somebody in Naples.
Yeah, that was me.
Okay.
Now it's all coming together.
Super exciting because part of my business, and not only make scientific equipment, I also repair and refurbish it.
Okay.
And occasionally I. Repair and refurbish electron microscopes.
So, when he came, I actually had a working electron microscope.
I do have one now, but it was a different one back then.
And he brought some samples of these stone vessels and we stuck them in the microscope.
And it was super exciting to study them because this laboratory of alternative history did similar studies and they reported that they found traces of unusual metals in their samples.
Their findings were.
Kind of strange.
So, on one hand, they said most samples were bare, you know, nothing on them.
But on a few, you know, they found some interesting metals.
What kind of samples?
What are you talking about?
Like, were these vase samples?
No, those were just granite samples, chunks of granite?
Yeah, that they somehow acquired from their trips to Egypt.
Okay.
And that's the thing that I would be, you know, critical about.
You know, when you do science, it's important to say how you acquired a sample, you know, where you got it from, how you.
You know, detached it, how you handled it.
Because, you know, when you use an electron microscope, you're looking for trace contaminants.
And if you contaminated it in the process of handling it, you know, what good your analysis is, right?
But, you know, when Ben visited, you know, we didn't really expect much.
And the main, you know, discovery that I stand by, you know, to this day is that the samples were very clean, you know, there was nothing on them.
And if you would expect something to be machined with a metal cutter, you would expect to find traces of the cutter.
You know, shaved off and wedged.
Yes.
You know, in the sample, and we didn't see that.
Okay.
I see what you're saying.
Okay.
So he gave you the samples to see if they had possibly been machined by something metal other than copper.
Right.
We didn't see any copper and we didn't see for that matter much of anything.
And I was like, wow, this is very clean because I used an electron microscope a lot for my research.
Various experiments I ran, you put a sample and usually in an experimental environment, everything is dirty.
You know how microchips are made?
Everybody is wearing overalls and space suits because a tiny particle will mess up your wafer.
Right, well, it's very difficult to keep that level of cleanliness.
Typically, if you do in the lab, everything is dirty, so all of my samples had all kinds of stuff in it.
And the principal problem you have in science is telling contaminants apart from like useful things.
But you know, these band samples they were like super clean.
You know, how is this possible, right?
And I was joking, oh, maybe they've been like plasma etched because you know, plasma etching, cleaning, but maybe it's just you know, years of you know, sand and water makes it clean, or or maybe they were not.
And a metal wasn't present.
And we'll talk about that.
So, okay.
So, the pieces that he brought you, we don't know what they were from.
They were just random pieces of granite.
But they were clearly worked.
Is that.
Ben brought me pieces of stone vessels.
Pieces of stone vessels.
Okay.
Granite?
No, actually, I don't know stone types.
Okay.
Because at that time, this was like an entirely new topic to me.
I knew nothing about geology.
So, he brought me some random pieces of stone vessels.
And.
Yeah, I couldn't identify stone types.
So I said, okay, well, just stick them in the microscope and see what we find.
But they were clearly worked, and they were clearly pieces of stone with vessels.
So, no doubt about that.
Is there a way of knowing when they would have been worked?
Like what year or what time frame?
Good question.
There is, but it's very difficult.
It's possible, let's say, on certain types of stone.
It's called, I think, thermal luminescence, the process.
And the idea is this most hard stones have quartz in it.
You know, quartz is a common component of sand.
And quartz tends to accumulate electrons.
Yes.
Not much, but a little bit.
Yeah, a little bit.
And what happens is, let's say you have a freshly machined surface.
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Okay.
So quartz accumulates electrons.
And if you have like a freshly machined surface, you know, you pretty much no electrons because you took off all of the quartz particles that had any electrons in them.
But then you let that surface sit, it will gather electrons.
And then at some point, if you heat that surface, those electrons will come off in a flash of light.
And then by the brightness of that flash of light, you can tell how much time elapsed from when this surface was machined until you heated it.
I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it, but that's the gist.
Interesting.
Yeah.
So in principle, Let's say it was the granite, the quartzite, it's possible.
So I thought that like the earthquake lights that you see come from the igneous rock grinding against each other.
It's not from the, is it from the grinding or is it from the heat that is the product of the rock rubbing against each other?
You know, it's unclear.
You know, there is a guy who did work on granite slabs.
Yes.
Yeah, Freeman Freund.
Yes.
So he showed that you get electrical effects from compressing granite.
And from the standpoint of physics, it makes perfect sense.
Mm hmm.
And then he extrapolated it to the earthquakes because you can have layers of granite underground.
So it's possible that those get compressed and you have these electric fields that cause the lights.
You know, the detailed mechanism, I don't think he worked out it in sufficient detail, but overall, you know, it seems plausible.
Yeah, he took a large chunk of granite, like a long, a very long, not a cylindrical piece, but it was like a square block that was very long, like a pillar.
And he put an electrode on one end and the other and they squeezed it.
And they were able to register electrons from the other end.
And that was his theory on how they could do earthquake, early earthquake detection based on seeing the earthquake lights.
So they did a bunch of measurements around the world where earthquake lights were detected.
And sure enough, within days or weeks after the earthquake lights, there were earthquakes.
So his hypothesis was that they would be like a good early warning detection system to save people's lives.
Fascinating, dude.
Okay.
And that goes into Chris Dunn's entire.
Tesla hypothesis that the ground beneath the Great Pyramid was being vibrated by some sort of.
He thinks there was like a jackhammer in the subterranean chamber that was like hammering the earth, creating many earthquakes, and that was sending electrons up through the base of the pyramid, through all the rock, and that was some sort of charging the pyramid in some way and creating some sort of free energy to power that submergence.
I mean, it's really fascinating because.
The Pyramid Tesla Hypothesis00:09:02
You know, there isn't a day when I don't look at the structure of the Great Pyramid or other pyramids and trying to figure out how it could have worked.
And clearly, you know, Chris Dunn had some interesting ideas.
And I'm also trying to approach it from the standpoint of engineering, you know, why certain things are engineered a certain way in the Great Pyramid.
And the best answer I've gotten so far is, and I'm looking at the Great Pyramid, and the chamber itself is granite.
And the chamber has, you know, four built ceilings.
King's Chamber?
Yeah, King's Chamber.
And I'm thinking, you know, why on earth would you make like corbalt in a ceiling?
You know, why is this important?
And to me, the answer is the only reason it's important if you want to load the walls, the side walls of the chamber with the weight above and not the ceiling.
Because let's say if a chamber is square, you have load both on the side walls and on the ceiling.
Yeah.
And why, you know, would you want to load side walls but not the ceiling?
Is like when you build a wave.
That oscillates between the walls.
And you want that wave to bounce only between the walls and not between the ceiling and the floor.
And I'm thinking again, you know, why they use granite.
So the thing about granite is it does not deform easily.
That's why a bunch of like workbenches are made out of granite.
For like in a machine shop, you will always have like a granite slab that they use for measurements.
Because if it, yes.
You didn't know that?
No, I did not know that.
Yeah, it's like the most common use of granite in modern day machining is various measurement.
I forget the term now.
It's a measurement desk, a measurement table.
But it's used for measurement because, let's say, you have a metal workbench and you put a part on it, and these days, tolerances are microns.
So you start measuring something, but heat, vibration, your metal surface, it will curve every so slightly, and that's enough to mess up your measurements by a micron or two.
And then, you know, when you use your precision micrometer to check, you know, the tolerance on the part, it's all messed up.
So that was figured out like years ago, and now it's all made of granite because granite does not bend easily.
You know, it keeps its shape regardless of vibration, temperature, pressure.
Yeah, you got it.
Granite table, yeah.
Whoa, on eBay, huh?
Yeah, and then massive.
$2,700 for a 10 inch thick granite work table.
Yes, they're massive because they're super stable.
We need one.
And that's the property of granite.
You know, it does not bend, it does not compress easily.
Anyway, you know.
Not as easy as metals, or sure, and I'm thinking, well, that's why you know the chamber was built out of granite because they wanted it to keep its shape.
And when it's important, it's only important when you want to build resonance.
Because if your chamber deforms, your resonance will go out of tune, right?
But if your chamber, you know, will not deform no matter what, yeah, then it will build a pretty good resonance.
What is it?
An F sharp, the king, the king chamber vibrate when you something happens where I think Chris was explaining he was in there and then he took a A measuring device that measures the sound in there and tells you what note it is.
And he said it was an F sharp, I believe.
Yeah.
So I do believe that.
Oh, I was right.
Wow.
Yeah, F sharp.
Okay, the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid of Giza is primarily known to resonate at a frequency around 117 hertz, which corresponds roughly to the musical note F, F sharp.
Acoustical engineers, including Tom Delaney, have found that the chamber and the granite sarcophagus within it.
Have multiple resonant frequencies.
Key findings include wow, that's so wild.
Yeah, it seemed like it was functional, man.
Yeah, I mean, clearly, I believe that it was some kind of industrial installation.
I don't think it was a tomb.
No.
But when I'm trying to analyze it, I'm trying to see the patterns that I, as an engineer, would recognize.
And I recognize this importance for resonance, I recognize why they use granite.
And the fact that the ceiling was corbelled is telling me that it was important to have the wave bouncing between the walls as opposed to between the floor and the ceiling.
And the other interesting observation about it is the chamber itself seems to have exploded.
Yes.
Because the blocks moved out of place.
It's a huge chunk that was blown out of the box in the middle of it.
Which tells me it worked and it served its purpose.
So I think it was like a one time.
Deal where it built the resonance it was supposed to, and then I'll tell you something else.
When you build the resonance, at some point, your system can no longer contain it.
Right.
Because it just starts falling apart.
And I think that's exactly what happened.
But I think it was designed for this specific purpose because the shafts were blocked by about five inches of granite.
Gate and Brinks door they found at the top of it.
Yeah, so the, and in the Queen's chamber, if you remember, the shafts weren't even connected to the chamber.
Right, exactly.
And that's a principle in engineering too that we find often, like in the case of, let's say, fuses.
So you have some material left that's supposed to break when your signal exceeds the critical threshold.
So I think the operating idea between the King's and Queen's chamber was you build his resonance.
And when it reaches the threshold, it breaks those slabs that were intentionally left in the shafts.
And then the energy is released.
Right.
Well, there was in the shafts in the Queen's chamber, I believe there were two blocks that were blocking the ends of them.
And the King's chamber, the shafts, one of them, I think, goes straight out, and the other one does some weird thing, a curve around the Grand Gallery and then shoots out.
The side of the pyramid.
Yeah.
So I do believe that the Queen's chamber, for that matter, was never used.
It was designed, but for whatever reason, they decided to build another one the King's chamber.
So you think they never used the shafts in the Queen's chamber?
No, I don't think so.
Why?
Well, two reasons.
They were blocked off.
Right.
And then they never terminated on the outside.
They did terminate.
What do you mean?
Queen chamber shafts, they terminate within the bulk of the pyramid.
They don't reach the outside.
Yes.
But I think the queen chamber.
So you think that was on accident?
No, I think, you know what?
Like you think that they built that and they decided, oh, this isn't going to work.
We need to do two more.
Yes.
Basically, when I look at these pyramids as a whole, like every one of them, and I listen to a bunch of lectures of other researchers who describe their ideas, I think the growing consensus is there was a lot of trial and error.
And I think, you know, whoever was building this, you know, they were discovering things and they were trying things.
So when I look at these various pyramids, I see evolutions in engineering thinking and engineering design.
And in the Great Pyramid, you know, we see it, we see two chambers because the first chamber is positioned where you think it needs to be.
It's like on the axis.
It's down below.
Sure.
Yet, you know, they build another one that's offset and has got some additional elements to it.
So, and they figured out it wasn't, Well, going to work.
Steve, I don't know if you can find Chris Dunn's latest diagram from his new book, but he hypothesizes that the chambers in the Queen's Chamber or the shafts that go out of the Queen's Chamber do connect to the outside of the pyramid through like pits in the ground.
He thinks there were these open pits in the ground that they could have forced some sort of chemical into that basically went up.
Into that chamber and like seeped through the door.
He thinks the limestone door, because it wasn't a granite door, it was a limestone door.
He thinks that the chemical could have filtered through that door down into the shafts.
Yeah.
Testing the Limestone Door Theory00:02:56
And here is a, I guess I need to give a disclaimer.
So, what we're doing, we're discussing ideas, right?
So, we're discussing hypotheses, we're fantasizing.
We need to find out, Steve, if they actually did prove that those shafts in the Queen's Chamber had a.
A connection to the outside of the pyramid in Chris Dunn's latest book.
Yeah, and what I'm saying is that's what we need to do when we're starting out.
We need to have ideas, we need to have hypotheses.
And then, you know, if you want to discover the truth, we need to test the ideas, test the hypothesis.
So, you know, each idea is testable.
If a chemical was used, it has to be a trace of it left.
So, by collecting samples and analyzing, we should be able to determine.
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Steve, you're not going to find it on Google AI, bro.
You're going to have to look for Chris Dunn's stuff.
It's going to be somehow associated with Chris Dunn.
It's going to be an image that he used in his latest book about the Tesla connection.
Yeah.
So, you know, that's kind of where I come in.
And when I hear a hypothesis that I can test, you know, that's what I do because I very much would like to know how it worked, why, and who done it because I'd like to learn from it and I'd like, you know, To use the knowledge that was available back then in my life, you know, to make my life better, to make your life better, you know, so we understand the world better, you know, and make our way through it, you know, with less effort and more joy.
That's what I, you know, very excited to learn.
Yeah, totally, man.
Earth Crust Cycles Explained00:14:44
Yeah, I think there's lots of questions that need to be answered about this stuff.
Do you find anything, Steve?
Yeah, but I, no, I'm still looking.
Oh, I kind of want to finish the point, you know, what I think.
About the pyramid, because I mentioned that this chamber worked.
And I think, you know, when it reached this resonance, it breached this remaining in a few inches of granite that were blocking the shafts and the energy shot out of the pyramid.
So I think it was used for communication.
And that would explain the astronomical alignment.
So, but the ends of those shafts in the Queen's Chamber aren't broken, those doors are intact.
They had to drill through them.
No, I'm talking about the king's chamber.
Oh, the king's chamber.
Oh, so you think that was originally sealed?
Yes.
Okay, I understand.
So I think this remaining few inches of granite broke when the resonance reached the desired magnitude and it was designed to break.
Okay.
And the energy went out.
And I think it was used for communication because that would explain astronomical alignment and obsession of the ancients with keeping track of time.
So throughout these ancient structures or even ancient history, we have.
Obsession with calendars, with keeping track of time and astronomical alignment.
So, if you're building a power plant, why the hell is it important that it's like oriented exactly in the north south?
It doesn't matter if it's a power plant, but it matters if it's a communication device, especially for space communication.
Because, you know, to send a signal to space, you need to align everything and time everything precisely because otherwise it's not going to arrive.
So, to me, as an engineer, You know, that's the only explanation I can think of why a structure needs to be precisely aligned and why, you know, timing is important because that's how we do space communications now.
Let's say you have a Voyager spacecraft of the age of the solar system.
The only way you can talk to it if your antenna is precisely pointing to it.
And because Earth is turning, everything is turning.
It's not just the orientation, it's also timing.
And I think pyramids have the same signature.
It's precisely oriented.
And then you have this obsession with time, timekeeping in different ancient cultures, which makes no sense if you're a primitive human being.
For your crop calendar, it doesn't matter the cycles of Venus and other.
Stuff, you know, you can figure out how many days in a year and be happy with it.
So, why do you need equinoxes and other shit?
It's only if you want to establish, you know, your clock in the cosmic reference where you want to send signals, you know, across the solar system.
And then, you know, to send it, you just need to know time and you need to know the orientation because otherwise it's not going to arrive.
So, and we see that, you know, in pyramids, it's precisely oriented.
Yes.
I mean, yeah, man, it's just a hypothesis, but that's, you know, where my thinking has.
Have led me to it.
Yeah, so how exactly is it oriented?
It's exactly pointed to the north.
Right.
North south, like within like a fraction of a degree.
And are the shafts, are the shafts that come out of the queen or the king's chamber, are those aligned astronomically at all?
Various people looked at it and they proposed various hypotheses, but I don't think those hypotheses hold water because, you know, there are so many stars and the stars shift.
But, you know, I don't.
Pretend to be right about it.
It's just a wild idea.
I'm just saying if you want to send a signal and you know that a certain party will be in a certain point in space at a certain time and you want to reach to them, you know, that's where you point.
So I think, you know, the shafts weren't particularly pointing to any star or planet.
I think they were just pointing to a location of interest where that signal was supposed to be received.
Right.
So I guess the hypothesis that I'm ascribing to it's, you know, the Robinson Crusoe.
The famous book.
So I think someone got stranded on Earth and they were desperate to send an SOS back.
Oh, really?
Yes.
And the pyramid was their way of doing it.
That's why it has this geographical alignment and precisely timed.
And you have this chamber that builds resonance.
And then the slabs break and the energy is released and your SOS is communicated.
So I think it served its purpose.
Yeah.
Well, it's also interesting there are pyramids all over the world.
Not just that.
I mean, obviously, the great pyramid of Cheops.
It was like the most impressive one with the most enormous megalithic stones that are built into it and with all those crazy chambers that make it look like a machine.
But like pyramids are everywhere, all over South America.
They're in China, all over Egypt.
And I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I think it's totally possible that a human timeline wasn't linear.
Yeah.
Are you familiar with the cargo theory?
Cargo cult?
Yeah, cargo cult theory.
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about, the Pacific Island.
Remind me.
So during World War II, American soldiers dropped cargo on some Pacific island.
And I think they dropped it by mistake.
Maybe they meant to drop it somewhere else, and there was a tribe living on that island.
So, in the experience of the tribe, you know, there's goods dropped out of the sky, then beings landed, and they gave these magic artifacts to them.
And then they cured disease and shit.
And when the Americans left, the Polynesians, I think those were Polynesians, they started imitating what they've seen.
They've built a wooden airplane.
They put coconuts on their heads, yes, to simulate headphones.
Yeah, they made goggles out of bamboo, who knows what.
They even imitated the rituals.
So I think we have this firsthand experience of what an encounter with a more technologically advanced civilization looks like.
People come from the sky, they bring technology that you consider is magic and then emulate it.
And I think we see a lot of that.
You know, all over the world.
So, you know, pyramids, maybe some of them were built for the purpose, others were, you know, emulations.
And a lot of objects, even in vases, I think, you know, we have some that emulate artifacts that, you know, weren't produced, let's say, by the people the vases are attributed to.
So I think this makes sense because, you know, look, otherwise, what the heck is that?
You know, it's just we're trying to recreate something that.
We've seen, we don't really know the functional.
Certainly, there's a lot of pyramids in Egypt around the Great Pyramid that are not impressive.
They're not as impressive, right?
They're not perfect.
They don't have, you know, 10 ton pieces of granite that are perfectly cut square.
They don't have all the internal structures and internal shafts and chambers and all that stuff, but they're all over the world.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, how do you get them in Peru and Mexico and, you know, Central America and in halfway across the world in Egypt?
It's just, it just seems.
It seems crazy to me.
Well, I think whoever crashed on Earth, they traveled the planet because they were desperate to get out of it.
So they went to different parts of it.
And maybe there were even, you know, different factions in that party that, you know.
I don't even think they have to crash on Earth.
I think it could have just been humans.
I think it could have been super advanced humans that got wiped out.
That's also possible, which I think there is some science fiction stories, maybe even a lot of science fiction stories, where the plot goes like this.
So.
People go on, what's the word?
On interstellar travel, which takes years.
Then they come back and some calamity beset the planet.
The planet is wiped.
So you come back home, but there is no home anymore.
It's wiped out.
So that's quite possible, which brings another excellent observation.
Something.
To the tune of not just tectonic plates moving, but the Earth crust slipping.
So, have you heard of this theory?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, evidently, it's possible that the Earth crust is just barely hanging onto the mantle.
But, you know, the planet spins as a whole.
So, the crust spins along with the mantle.
And I don't know if you've been tracking the news, but maybe a year ago, there's been a lot of talk that the Earth core.
Was showing some irregularities in rotation.
So, if you think the idea of the Earth's crust and core is showing irregularities, yes, I haven't seen that.
I saw news about the North Pole shifting.
Well, I think these are related news, and you know, when I read them, I tend not to believe them because you know, to me as a physicist, if you have like a spinning mass, it cannot shift its direction of rotation quickly because of the amount of energy is required, right?
So, when I was reading those news, I you know.
Didn't take much stock in them, but just go with me for a moment.
So, suppose indeed these various layers of Earth aren't as tightly coupled to one another, right?
As we might believe.
And then, if you have like a solar system as a system, meaning you have like multiple planets orbiting the sun, and these planets influence each other.
And then, on top of that, you have visitors to the solar system from other solar systems.
Like now, we have this Atlas 3I body zooming, and it's like the third one we observe.
So, in the past, and it could have been other bodies that, you know, passed.
And what if they passed closer to Earth?
And then you have interaction between these various systems.
And normally we're taught, well, it's just gravity and gravity is weak, or it shouldn't really affect things except that maybe change the trajectory of Earth around the sun slightly.
But what if it can affect the Earth's crust and it could affect the slippage?
You see what I mean?
Yeah, this is crazy.
I've never seen this.
Mysterious changes near Earth's core revealed by satellites in space.
This was like a month ago.
Well, I mean, there's news about it on and off.
And, you know, I didn't study closely because.
Materials deep inside Earth, thousands of kilometers down near the planet's core, has pay to what?
You can't get through that paywall?
No, I'm not a hacker.
I thought Brave could get through them.
Oh, well, I can tell you where you can read the article if you go to Psi Hub.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, that's a pirate site that goes around the paywall.
So, the point.
Yeah.
We talk about warming, climate change, and whatnot, right?
Yes.
How is this going to happen?
Bill Gates just went back on that.
You see that?
Well, he just pulled back on climate change.
He said it's not going to end Earth.
He said now we have to focus on refunding USAID.
Good.
Well, we know that Earth goes through climate cycles, regardless man made, natural, Earth goes through climate cycles.
Yes, I've seen the chart that goes back millions of years, and it's a roller coaster.
Yes, exactly.
And why is this important?
Because it's cyclical.
Mm hmm.
And what happens when you have cycles?
You have more ice, you have less ice.
What happens when you have more ice?
You have ice pushing down on Earth's crust.
Correct, yeah.
You know, creating an indentation that pins Earth's crust to the mantle.
But if that ice melts, the indentation becomes shallow and nothing is pinning crust to the mantle.
You see what I mean?
Yeah, so the ice on the top and the bottom of the Earth are like counterweights, right?
Yeah.
If there is too much ice, Maybe on one on the top or something and not on the bottom or whatever.
Well, it could go whoop that plus the fact that you have weight that's pushing your crust down.
Yeah, so if that weight is gone, all of a sudden, you know, the crust is just sitting on a rather slick layer of a mantle, there was nothing pushing it down.
So I think it's not impossible to wear when another body's like, say, shooting through the solar system and coming next to Earth, and then some interaction takes place, and maybe it doesn't take a lot of energy, you know.
Let's say the pull on the crust is stronger and there is no ice to hold the crust down, and maybe you know the crust would slip, and then you have this enormous you know tidal wave that goes and wipes everything.
And maybe it's a cyclical process, and maybe that's you know what's been happening on this planet for years.
I mean, it's crazy.
What is the spin rate of the planet?
We're spinning at what a thousand miles per hour is that right?
500 meters per second on the equator, if that's what you mean.
The earth, the spit like how fast the earth is, yes, it's rotating.
I thought it was a thousand miles per hour.
Well, you can convert meters per second.
Oh, look.
There you go.
Yeah, you got it.
1,038 miles per hour.
Yeah, so 500 meters per second on the equator.
So, speaking of which, do you find anything funny in Florida?
I find lots of funny things in Florida.
Well, I find several things funny.
We have pine trees next to palm trees.
Pine trees is a northern species.
So, why the hell do we have so many pine trees next to palm trees?
Well, then the.
Water, if you drill.
People like to plant trees.
Well, I mean, these are like native species, right?
Pines were here, you know, when people arrived.
You know, there are pines here natively.
Lots of oaks, too.
Right.
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Then, you know, when you drill down, the water is loaded with iron.
It's rusty.
In Florida?
Yes.
Or is this everywhere?
In Florida.
Okay.
And when you drill deeper, you know, there is a lot of sulfur, meaning from.
Organic matter decay.
So, what this is telling me, there is a lot of shit under sand, you know, because we have layers of sand.
And then under those layers, we have layers where organic matter is decaying profusely, creating this hydrogen sulfide, which is a problem.
And then we have layers that are, for whatever reason, rich in iron.
And then when you have sprinklers going, everybody has these red splotches because there's dissolved iron.
Underwater.
Yes.
But at different depths, you find this.
And what's telling me is, It's consistent, you know, that observation on its own is consistent with the fact that there was something here that was covered by the tidal wave and now it's rotting.
And then you get this, you know, dissolved iron because it was metal structures and you get this, you know, hydrogen sulfide because it's buried organic matter.
And the fact that we have pine trees is compatible with the fact that this was further north, but then, you know, the crust shifted, you know, the northern vegetation ended up in the south and then, you know, the tidal wave, you know, buried stuff over.
And in our town, How long ago do you think this happened?
Not too long ago, because not all of the iron is gone and not all of the organic matter is gone.
And there are some traces of infrastructure, even in our town.
We have a thing called Indian Canal, which is a canal they discovered with the ground penetrating radar when they were doing construction that connects to, basically goes across a sandbar.
But it's maybe half a mile long, something like that.
And they say, oh, Indians must have dug it, because it makes perfect sense.
Here you have a harbor, and there you have The ocean, so rather than going the long way, let's just cut a canal.
Sure.
Well, I'm thinking, shit, you are an Indian.
You're practically naked.
You have, you know, a canoe.
You don't have any tools, and you will start digging a canal.
You know, that just.
I'm refusing to believe it.
Besides, they didn't have.
You don't think Indians could build canals?
Well, that's what the conventional explanation is.
Right.
And to me.
I think it's possible Indians could have built canals when they were building canals.
Possible, but it doesn't make sense.
I mean, a lot of things that are possible don't.
Don't make sense.
So, to me, one of the guiding factors is when I look at history or archaeology, I refuse to believe in things that don't make sense.
Like, nobody would do stupid work.
Nobody would do work stupidly.
I think people are smarter than that.
So, to me, to build a canal, it requires not only to have tools, but it also requires a level of organization.
So, you need to have some kind of state, which we are not aware of, you know, from the sociological studies or historical studies that Indians, at least at this Part of the world.
And we're not talking about the Inca Empire or Aztec Empire.
We're not aware of any empire existing locally that was organized enough to where major infrastructure work could be ordered because you have to have power of state to gather that much people and make them do the work.
Because if you're just a merchant, well, there is only this much you could do.
To build a canal, it's an organized effort.
You need a state for that, you need bureaucracy and shit.
And I don't think that was in place.
So that's why I.
To me, an easier explanation.
It's a remnant of an infrastructure that was wiped out and covered with sand when this whole thing was.
Well, we were looking at Steve.
Remember when we had the guy on here that was showing us the Carolina Bays, and we were going back and we were on a website looking at the history of the landscape of Florida, particularly this county.
And it was showing all the natural ravines and stuff that flow through today.
Like right now, you can drive down the street, and there's parts of the road where there's like little bridges with waterways going under them, right?
They don't even pay attention to like little narrow canals and stuff like that.
We were going back like hundreds of years and finding out that these things have been here forever and they ran all the way through Florida.
And now we've just built on top of all of them.
And there's a lot of natural like canals and ravines and rivers and stuff that have been here for as long as we.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that particular canal is not natural.
I mean, it's been established as artificial.
Which canal are you talking about specifically?
The canal in Naples.
In Naples.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think it's called the Indian Canal or something like that.
You know, if you walk.
On the third avenue, you know, there is a sign there, and it was a picture of radar scan that says, Oh, you know, Indians must have dug it, you know, through.
And we're not talking, yeah, that's it.
We're not talking about digging through sand.
We're talking about digging through coral, also.
Right.
So, I mean, it's too big of a canal to where I just refuse to believe that.
How long do we know?
Do we know how long it's been there?
Or what is the conventional explanation for how long it's been there?
I don't recall, on top of my head.
Interesting.
But, you know, it's not that big.
What is that, a mile?
Yeah, about a mile.
But still, you know, imagine we're talking Neolithic people did it.
But that aside, there are traces of infrastructure that are a lot more impressive in Russia.
This is the, oh, this is the, okay, AI says the Indian Naples Canal was in use from approximately AD 700 to 1400.
Okay.
So who was in Florida?
Wait, what?
It ran over a fucking hell.
It ran a mile from the Gulf of Mexico to Naples Bay.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So, who was in Florida during 1000 AD?
I have no idea.
Find out.
Haven't been around.
You were in Russia.
Yeah, I was in Russia.
Exactly.
I was being chased.
Or at least your ancestors were getting chased through Siberia.
So, we were trying to decide whether to eat bears or mate with them.
Let's see what Steve comes up with here.
Native Floridians, primarily the ancestors of the cow Calusa, lived in what is now Naples' surrounding area, forming part of the Glades culture.
Shell Mound villages.
Yeah, there were not a lot of people.
We're talking just a few thousand people because it was not a densely populated area.
Interesting.
But where I was going with this is there are some remnants of ancient infrastructure in Russia.
That Russian enthusiasts discovered by studying maps.
And those remnants of infrastructure fall into three categories.
One is like stone, not stone, ground, not mounds, but ground walls that are like maybe 10 feet tall, but they run like for thousands of kilometers.
So when you drive on the road, you might see a hill or two, but like if you look on the satellite picture or topographic map, you see, and it seems to be like a man made dike or something.
And some of those are found like along the Volga River, where floods were known to take place because, you know, rivers.
Do flood in springtime, but those are ancient, and there are also traces of canals.
Some of those were reused or you know, deepened and excavated when modern day canals were built.
So, those are like uh, middle Russia along Volga River, Volga Don, and um, basically this earth, earth dikes or earth walls that you know, no record of anybody building.
You think maybe during Tsar time somebody built it?
No, there is no record, but more puzzling, like in Siberia, if you go like thousands and thousands of miles in Siberia.
There is this known grid.
When you look at the satellite map of Taiga, you see it's divided into squares.
You actually see the division into squares.
And when you go on site, you see that the area where there is no forest is not growing for whatever reason.
As if the earth was somehow some chemicals put to where it doesn't grow.
And it forms this neat rectangular pattern.
Like for you know thousands and thousands of miles, and once again, there is nowhere where nothing grows in the middle of forest.
Yeah, so it's exactly imagine you have.
Can you find this, Steve?
It's uh, it's as if grid is superimposed on top of the woods, and that's wow, cleared, and nobody's clearing it.
It's just crazy.
There's spots like this I've heard of in Siberia as well where comets have hit, yeah, yeah, but you know, we're talking about this is rectangular grid, right?
Obviously, not comets.
And imagine the amount of work it would take just to clear it and maintain it.
But nobody's clearing it, nobody's maintaining it.
Yeah, when it comes to ancient sites and ancient civilizations and stuff like this, Russia is one place you never really hear much talk about.
Yeah, which is unfortunate because there's been some.
So right now we're discussing fringe ideas, right?
But there are non controvertible discoveries made in archaeology in Russia recently that nobody's talking about.
Like Siberia was supposed to have been uninhabitable.
By civilized peoples until recently.
Yet, you know, they found a bunch of cities that, like, a spiral shaped city that's been excavated, and they all have, like, similar structure.
And they practiced ore smelting and pottery and all sorts of crafts.
And maybe they found a dozen of these cities, and one is the better known, goes by the name of Archaim.
And those date, like, thousands of years.
You know, BC.
So all of a sudden, you know, the traces of unknown culture have been found that, you know, same time as, let's say, you know, Egyptian civilization, but in the part of the world where nobody knew, you know, any kind of civilized activity took place.
You know, yet they find these mounds, they excavate them, and sure enough, it's a settlement.
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Wow.
And there are a bunch of settlements like this, like all over, you know, Russia, right on the border of Russia and Kazakhstan, and some in Kazakhstan, and others in Siberia.
Yeah.
So we're talking.
Like several of these, not just one.
And imagine what else might be there.
So, I'm half thinking about getting the ground penetrating radar and start exploring myself because so much stuff seems to be underground that we just walk over and we wonder why the hell my well water is red.
Isn't the permafrost a big deal in Siberia?
Yeah, there is.
And there's lots of, I guess, with it melting or something, there's lots of really toxic shit being released from the ground.
Yeah.
Funny you say that because there is a.
You know, I write poetry and I like poetry, and there is a Russian poet who writes like dirty poems.
And recently, one of his poems was about permafrost melting and some prehistoric monster, you know, erupting from it and laying eggs all over the place, kind of like in the alien, you know, situation.
And when you look at it, it's believable because, you know, shit melts and then, you know, we have these all kinds of pathogens and bacteria that come out from it.
But there is another.
Thing that's like right in your face.
We're talking about forests all over the planet aren't that old.
And biologists and botanists who study forests discovered this a long time ago that it's very strange that all the woods are approximately 80 to 100 years old.
So we don't have forests.
All of the forests are going to be in the Amazon.
Yes.
And I could be misreading.
What about the Amazon?
Even in Amazon, there's been a study of how connected the tree has the corona.
What's the canopy?
The canopy, yes.
Thank you.
How well the canopies are connected.
Because by how densely the canopies are packed, they can tell the age of the woods.
It's a very well researched topic.
In an established mature woods, all the canopies are meshed very tightly.
But if it's a younger wood, there is a mismatch because trees grow at different rates.
So they did a study in woods all over.
You know, the planet exhibits this pattern of being immature, which makes no sense, unless, of course, you know, you include this, you know, catastrophe idea that occurs regularly that, you know, renews the woods, you know, on a global scale.
And, you know, that unfortunately, or fortunately, it traces back to the idea of catastrophisms that these catastrophes happen on this planet regularly to where we don't have woods like, you know, the great redwoods all over the place.
You know, we have, you know, just a few places where we have these, you know, giant trees, but those are like remnant.
Remnants of what's left.
Yeah.
Because taiga, it is huge and all of the woods are under 100 years old.
Under 100 years old?
Yes, it will be very.
The Amazon's definitely thousands of years old.
Well, I mean, as a body, maybe, but I mean, individual trees.
Yeah, I think that's pretty not contested that the trees in the Amazon are really fucking old.
Well, I don't know about Amazon.
I can speak about Russia.
I mean, trees all over the place.
At least in North America.
I don't know about Russia, but I know at least in North America, there's trees that are like ancient.
Well, in Russia, you'll be hard pressed to find trees over 100 years.
That's interesting.
And the other interesting fact that people noticed is when you look at pictures of Russia taken 100 years ago, hardly a tree anywhere.
It's just plains.
So all of, like, it seems that the majority of vegetation have grown in the past 100 years.
And people often do this, you know, side by side pictures of what a place looked like in the early.
1900s.
I mean, yeah, basically 100 years ago versus now.
And you cannot recognize because on one picture, not a single tree, and now it's like all overgrown.
So there is, you know, some shit happened to where there were no trees in Russia, all steps.
And now the trees are growing and all the trees are young.
So, Steve, see what you can find about this.
And it's, you know, like within the scale of human life, you know, within 100 years, you know, we're not talking thousands of years, you know, within 100 years, it's a huge change.
So, you know, To me, as an engineer, this is all like fascinating.
I don't think the narrative we're presented is complete or accurate or truthful, and not necessarily because there is some conspiracy to hide the past from us.
I think it was challenging in the past when you have to go onto an expedition, make a discovery, report it.
Now we're talking, people are listening, they'll start looking at pictures and start digging in, and information is.
Like a wave is rising all of a sudden.
We are presented, you know, with satellite images, with, you know, geological survey data and some other shit that we can really, you know, quickly put side by side and see whether it meshes or not.
And I think that's what makes our life exciting, you know, this, you know, geology of information that we can mix and match and analyze.
So I found the age of the furs, the balsam fir is 80 years old.
Wow.
But that doesn't mean that the forest itself has been there for 80 years, but that's their lifespan, which is pretty short for a freaking tree.
Yeah, that is very short, right?
But then it says that, well, maximum lifespan is only 150.
That's odd.
The lifespan can be cut short by pests.
Wow.
Wow.
I didn't know.
And I couldn't really.
Oh, wait.
I think I might have found a comparison.
No, that's.
Now, that's just a deforestation.
I couldn't find the good comparison.
Yeah, I mean, it might be.
Maybe you need to type the query in Russian because it's mostly discussed in Russian channels.
But even in my hometown, I've seen pictures of what it looked like 100 years ago versus now.
And 100 years ago, there was hardly a tree.
But of course, there is also a more trivial explanation that before they've been cutting trees for firewood.
Right.
Yeah.
But.
Like all over the place, you know what, and that's kind of the thing.
Um, you know, the point I wanted to make it's fine to have ideas, you know, it's fine to have speculations, it's fine to have fantasies, but at the end of the day, and if you want to prove anything, it all boils down to running numbers, right?
So, you run your idea through numbers and see if it you know comes out correct or not, yeah, and then maybe you do the count, and all the trees were cut because you know, winter is a cold and.
No trees are left.
Yeah.
But then the question becomes if they cut all the trees and they were still not freezing, you know, where the hell they were getting the firewood from?
Yeah, that's true.
So, are there any sort of like unexplainable megalithic sites or artifacts that are found in Russia?
I'm glad you asked.
Yes.
But it's not what you think.
It's actually, I guess, I think the biggest mystery in the eyes of Russians is St. Petersburg.
You know, the St. Petersburg in Russia, which is the city that is not that old if you believe the official history.
So, if you read the official history, it goes Peter the Great founded this city in the middle of a swamp where the Neva River flows out of Lake Ladoga into the Gulf of Finland, like real low, swampy land.
And he decided to build a new capital there.
And the first question is like, you find the worst possible spot.
Congratulations.
Everybody recognizes this, because ever since the city was built, it was suffering from annual floods of Neva river.
Right, so stupid, you know.
And then you know the Gulf Of Finland.
Everybody knows it has so much fresh water in it to where arguably, motivation of Peter The Great was he wanted to build a port, port city.
But the Gulf Of Finland is so bad to where it's a known fact that the cost of moving goods, let's say, from Holland all the way to Gulf Of Finland, let's say, is 100 units.
And then this remaining two miles, exactly also 100 units because it was shallow.
The water was almost non saline.
So the wood rotted.
So it's like the worst possible place for commerce.
But that aside, the bigger mystery is we have these palaces.
You know, just magnificent palaces in St. Petersburg and cathedrals that have a megalithic component to them.
And once again, it's a topic that's like widely discussed in Russian communities because it's like close to our culture and probably not discussed here.
But take, for example, St. Isaac's Cathedral.
So if you open up a history book, it tells us that it was built by, you know, Italian architect, and that cathedral has columns that are you know 100 feet tall, you know, they're gigantic, yes, they're huge.
And they're telling us that you know those columns were brought and quarried, and they have pictures.
And when you look at those pictures, it makes no sense.
There's no way you know those columns were loaded on a barge, and not a chance in hell they were you know transported and offloaded.
And it's just the documentation that goes with it.
What year?
What year, roughly 200 years ago, okay, you know, maybe 300.
Yeah, about 200, 300 years ago.
So it's not that long ago.
And there is arguably documentation because the guy who built it, Monferron, he put a journal where he documented it.
And I built houses.
I'm an engineer.
I look at it, it looks odd.
And then you also consider no roads.
Russia was poor.
And then you're building these huge multi ton columns and bringing them over.
It just doesn't make sense.
But it goes further than that.
Then all over St. Petersburg, which is, by the way, on the same.
Longitude as Cairo.
There is a lot of Egyptian motifs.
There are sphinxes and there is Egyptian inspired architecture.
There are these megalithic granite bathtubs that are exhibited at a hermitage, which we have no idea how the hell they were carved and brought.
And then I guess the funniest thing is the Winter Palace or the Hermitage Museum now.
Yeah.
It's actually a three story building, but the first story is entirely underground.
And if you walk around it, there will be like a hole where you can see a portion of the window.
And if you excavate it further, you know, you see the columns and everything.
It's not like the first floor is buried completely.
Meaning, like, how can you build 200 years ago and have your first floor be underground?
And that's like a pattern in every town in Russia.
Really?
Yes.
Like, the first floors are underground to where the entrances to the building are often on the second floor or like in between the floors.
Underground, when you say underground, is there a basement?
Can you go down there?
Yeah, you can go down there.
Okay.
It's such a clue.
But it's like there was, you're saying that there's like windows on the exterior.
Yeah, windows and all of the decorative elements, and the first floor looks exactly like the ground floor now, except it's underground.
So it clearly was covered up.
And when you talk to, let's say, a historian, they say, oh, it's dirt.
Like, really?
Over 200 years, we have six, seven feet of dirt.
The street was never cleaned.
Because it's a pattern not only in St. Petersburg, it's in every major city in Russia.
It's like that.
They do some construction work in a building that's only 200 years old.
The first floor is underground.
And it was all the windows and doors and steps and all of the.
Buried.
Yeah, buried, basically.
And people started noticing this and they posted this and they researched St. Petersburg a lot.
And once again, you cannot believe everything that people say on the internet.
So you don't know when people post something, it's authentic or not.
I want to see what the explanation for the giant granite bathtubs is.
Yeah.
I don't know.
They say, well, some guys in Russia did it and they delivered it.
But maybe more, I guess, incredulous is Are they precise like granite?
They're very finely crafted.
I don't know if anybody actually measured them to determine precision or not.
But I know there is a famous building in St. Petersburg that has, yeah, like this shit.
Holy moly.
That's like eight foot tall.
Yeah, something like that.
Wow.
Yeah, what the hell is that?
And that's one piece of granite.
Well, by the looks of it, holy shit, dude.
Yeah, and so one study I know, there is like a famous building.
How much does that weigh?
Yeah, my guess is as good as yours.
That's insane.
That's totally insane.
How many of those are there?
I don't know.
I mean, I've seen a couple.
I've seen another one that has a foot in it and it's smaller.
It's 48 tons.
Good God.
That's carved.
That's carved for sure.
The original block was supposed to be 160 tons before carving.
Yeah.
So, on that note, there is a famous monument in St. Petersburg, which is a monument to Peter the Great.
And it's on the rock.
Thunderstone?
Yeah, Thunderstone.
And the theory is it was brought from Karelia.
From Finland, right?
From Finland, basically, yeah.
And when you look at it, it's just I think I mentioned before, I don't believe that people were stupid and they were doing stupid work.
So I think it's a stupid idea for a tsar to say, hey, bring me a rock from God knows where to put here.
It's stupid.
However, you look at it, and even, okay, if somebody was that stupid to give that stupid order, How would you do it when there are no roads, no infrastructure?
Well, they've documented how they moved that Thunderstone, right?
Like Ben explained it to me how they built this rail system with bearings.
And then they also built these giant ships, like giant rafts with warships on each side of them to move it.
Oh, yeah, there you go.
I think it's utter bullshit.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, it just insults my intelligence.
You know, this whole story insults my intelligence.
Moving Massive Stone Blocks00:06:29
I mean, I believe that, you know, somebody could have created documentation to make it look plausible.
But there is an example from the recent history.
In the same town, it was called Leningrad during the Soviet era, they wanted to erect.
A monument to the World War II, which was a granite obelisk.
So it's one piece of granite that they carved, I think, in Karelia, which is next to Finland.
And they brought it on these huge trucks and erected it on one of the city squares.
And it's well documented how it was done.
And it basically goes like this several research institutions were working for, I think, a year or two on the logistics of it.
How it would be carved, how it would be loaded, how it would be transported, which roads is possible to take, which roads are impossible to take, which bridges would hold, if it's transported over water, how it would be unloaded, and things of that nature.
So it took like two years of planning and a year to execute and bring that obelisk and erect it.
And by the way, it was erected on a lead gasket, so the contact between the foundation and the obelisk is good and it stays solidly in one place.
If it took like two years to plan a year, given all of the modern technology, when we have roads, have cranes, have trucks, and all of that, doing that with a rock 300 years ago when none of that was.
What was that thing?
A thousand tons?
I think that thing was a thousand tons.
I think they estimated that thing was the same size and weight as the unfinished obelisk of the pregnant woman in Egypt.
Yeah, besides, it's stupid.
Why would you do it?
I don't believe anybody's stupid besides, you know, people need to be paid.
You know, how much money are you wasting on moving a rock?
Well, monumental type stuff was very important to these cultures.
Yeah, but people are rational.
I don't believe in the idea that people are irrational.
Yeah, but what if the king, you know, a king with a lot of money and a giant ego wants to show that his civilization is the best?
He's going to get all the people.
Well, I know what happens when that happens.
What is that sound?
It's a motorcycle.
Okay.
You know what happens?
What you're describing.
Takes place, another king is looking at the king who's gone nuts and he invades his country and takes over.
Because, you know, when you undertake a project like that, you're pulling resources from everywhere, which means you don't have enough money or enough focus on maintaining military or, you know, guard your borders and people take advantage of it.
Sure.
You know, this happens all the time.
Yeah.
So, I mean, it's just incompatible, fundamental.
And I could be wrong, you know, I'm just expressing my personal opinion.
I do believe fundamentally that people are rational and people are smart overall, you know, as a You know, physical ensemble, you know, it's a quantum system where rational and smart overall.
So I don't think, you know, people do irrational things on that scale or stupid things for that matter because everybody can count money.
And that's why I think we underappreciate how smart ancient Egyptians were.
And that's, you know, one thing I learned in the course of my, you know, vase project.
I think my appreciation to the acumen, intellectual acumen of ancient Egyptians has increased tremendously.
Yeah, well, like, you know, our society and our culture today, our values are probably way different than their values were back then.
You know, our values now, at least in the Western world, are all based on economics, you know, and getting acquiring wealth and notoriety and recognition for shit.
And, uh, At the high level, at least.
And back then, I don't think that was it.
I think maybe back then, it was one of their top values getting closer to the gods or something.
Maybe.
But economics is still, you cannot take it out of the equation.
No.
Because I think of this let's say pyramids were constructed by manual labor.
Let's just say, go with the mainstream idea.
Then all of the workers need to be fed.
Imagine how much food you just need to produce just to feed this army of laborers.
And how much strain would that put on the agricultural production that you need to feed an army of workers?
And there is no way around it because you cannot not feed your labor force because without energy, you cannot move anything.
And that goes about any project that involves a massive amount of people.
You send an army somewhere, and with that army, you send herds of sheep and cattle and Logistics with the carts of wheat and barley and whatnot, right?
Right.
So you have to have food to feed your labor force.
And if you don't, you know, they cannot do any work.
Sure.
And, you know, once you start accounting for that, a lot of projects just become prohibitively expensive because we often think, oh, you know, those are just slaves.
You beat the slave, he does the work.
No, the slave cannot work unless you give him food because without food, he doesn't have strength and energy.
Right.
Yeah.
You're right about that.
So, so I'm curious, how does.
Your work in nuclear connects to this ancient stuff and some of these ancient megalithic stuff and these ancient artifacts?
I'm glad you asked because I almost forgot about that.
So, when Ben approached me and showed me these vases, and of course, I was blown away by how well they were made.
And because I am open minded, I started thinking about crazy stuff like maybe reptilian beings from.
Other stellar systems were making them with their scaly hands.
And if that was the case, of course, you know, they wouldn't use chisels or lathes.
You know, they would use, you know, some other magic.
Polonium and Alpha Particles00:15:08
And as a nuclear scientist, the thing that comes to mind is nuclear technology.
Because everybody knows that there is so much more energy within a nucleus than in a chemical bond.
It's not even funny.
And it's really a thousand times.
If not 10,000 times more energy per unit mass.
Which means if you are an advanced civilization, you probably have mastered nuclear science to the degree to where it's like nothing.
And with that in mind, it becomes possible to machine stuff by nuclear means.
And that's where my nuclear machining hypothesis originated from.
I started thinking if I could produce isotopes.
And you know what isotopes are, right?
Maybe you should give a broad definition of it.
So every element in nature comes in several varieties.
Like take iron.
You know, there are several isotopes.
It's still iron, but, you know, they differ by the count of nutrients, meaning one is slightly heavier or slightly lighter than the other, but any natural element is a mixture of isotopes.
And some isotopes are benign in the sense that the only difference between them is just the count of nutrients.
But in your body, in my body, in every object, you know, there is the same mixture of them.
But some isotopes are not benign.
They are radioactive.
And this is particularly important in the course of nuclear engineering.
So, you build a power plant, you put nuclear fuel in, and when that fuel decays, it produces a lot of neutrons that activate, meaning make new isotopes.
So, neutrons are kind of like a catalyst in nuclear science because they are absorbed by all elements differently.
And when an element absorbs a neutron, it changes its isotopic composition.
So one isotope transforms into another.
And a lot of isotopes that are formed by neutron capture are radioactive, meaning they emit gamma rays, they emit alpha particles, beta particles.
And what that emission means, it means an emission of energy.
And energy at a pretty significant level.
So to put things in perspective, like a common type of radioactivity is alpha.
Decay.
Meaning, when an element decays, isotope decays, it emits an alpha particle.
And this alpha particle travels pretty much at a speed of light.
Not quite, but comparable to the speed of light.
So when it hits something, it erodes a material it hits, basically takes layers away.
It's like a miniature projectile.
And in the context of nanotechnology, this is known as.
You know, nanomachining or ion machining.
So, in fact, a lot of electron microscopes or a lot of semiconductor fabrication equipment comes with ion beams.
So, it's like when you see, like, in Chernobyl, when the meltdown happened in Chernobyl and they tried flying the helicopter over it, the helicopter just disintegrated.
Well, I think it's an exaggeration, but in principle, that's possible.
You know, if you're.
I thought that happened.
It was in the show.
Well, I would doubt it would have, you know, disintegrated.
Just because it was exposed to radiation at the level that Chernobyl could produce it.
But in principle, if you have a powerful enough nuclear reactor, shit would just disintegrate entirely.
So I would say the nuclear science in general, it's like the next frontier of knowledge because with it, you can do things that look like magic.
You can make things disappear.
You can make matter out of nothing.
You can change lead to gold.
You can turn lead to gold.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what nuclear science is about.
In theory, right.
In practice.
Oh.
Yeah, it's been done.
I mean, you don't get a lot of it.
Unless you have a very powerful reactor.
But I'll give you this example.
You know, like plutonium 239, which is a weapons grade material.
That's what you put in a plutonium bomb.
That's a very valuable metal because.
Unless you have like a critical amount of it to where it will explode, you have like a small amount of it.
The unique feature about it, it stays hot all the time, you know, red hot.
So, if you go on the internet and you Google a picture of plutonium, you'll get a picture of a glowing chunk of metal.
And that's what nuclear energy is about.
It stays hot all the time, year after year after year, decade after decade.
Yeah, like that.
Until it decays completely.
It's just so full of nuclear energy that energy is coming out of it in terms of this alpha particle emission.
Right.
How long does it stay like that?
Years, decades.
And this is one of the problems.
This is one of the major problems with nuclear power plants, right?
Well, this is what they say that you have to like bury the nuclear material.
I will get to it, but okay.
What is unique about plutonium?
So, sorry, 238, yeah.
I mixed up with 239.
Is you send a satellite to space, let's say Voyager, right?
It's too far to where solar panels aren't going to be any good.
So, how do you energize it?
Well, you put a chunk of that.
In it and it stays hot, and you surround it with thermoelectric elements and you generate power.
Oh, wow, okay.
And that's why it's super useful, you know, super safe, you know, this particular one plutonium 238.
Yeah.
And in Russia, it's been used a lot, you know, to power polar stations and, you know, things of that nature.
And that's what the magic about it is like a perpetual battery, you know, that chunk is going to produce you, you know, kilowatts of energy, like day after day after day, you know, year after year after year, for, you know, 10, 50 years and more.
And you know, you how hard is it to create?
Or to get, do you can you make this or does this have to come?
How does it work?
I don't understand how you make it in a nuclear power plant.
Yeah.
So you make plutonium 238 in a power plant.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, you breed it.
Okay.
And I forgot where I was going with this.
Oh, so, you know, to me, this looks like magic.
You know, this is like the ultimate magical artifact.
You have a chunk of plutonium that constantly glows.
Yeah.
But by the same token, like in my research, I use polonium 210.
Which is similar to plutonium, but the difference is that plutonium decays slowly compared to polonium.
It kind of sounds the same, plutonium, polonium, right?
So, plutonium decays slowly compared to polonium.
So, polonium takes like half life, meaning half of it is gone, like within 238 days.
Okay.
Whereas for plutonium, it's years.
So, this means if you have.
A sizable amount of polonium, the rate at which it emits energy is like a million times more than plutonium.
Yes.
But it just decays way faster.
Yes.
Okay.
And that's, you know, so you compress time, right?
So it gives off, you know, this nuclear energy at a rate that's a million times faster.
Yes.
So it decays faster, right?
Meaning if you had microscopic, not macroscopic, macroscopic, tangible quantity of polonium, You'd be able to produce a ton of these alpha particles that, if you could direct them somewhere, they would just make holes, remove material, shave off material, basically obliterate.
Destroy shit.
Yeah, destroy shit, yes.
And I'm thinking if you are an advanced civilization, surely you mastered nuclear power, and surely you can produce any isotope you want, and surely you can produce isotopes that emit alpha particles for the sake of machining.
Because then you have non contact machining.
You don't have any cutters or borders, right?
You have just this material, and it will remove layers that you want to remove just by virtue of ablation.
And this is not controversial, not fantastic.
We use it in ion beams.
We don't necessarily use it with radioisotopes because we don't know how to direct these alpha particles.
We don't have that technological.
They just emit it in all directions.
But it doesn't mean we can learn if we wanted to, right?
And also, we don't synthesize them in large quantities.
One of the reasons it's expensive, the other reason is it's regulated, and the third reason is we don't know how to handle it.
These materials, and I haven't learned yet.
What was the material that was in the demon core that killed that guy?
Plutonium.
Was that plutonium 238?
I think it was 239, yes.
239.
Yeah.
So 238 is benign in the sense that it emits only alpha particles.
It's not going to be useful to make a bomb by itself.
Yeah, but 239, you collect enough of it, it's just going to explode because you have this runaway chain reaction.
But that alpha emission was one idea because it's just one of the particles that can be emitted.
The other particle is a beta particle or electron.
So, basically, when some isotopes decay, they emit either alpha particles, which is helium ions.
Another possibility, when an isotope decays, it emits beta particles, which is an electron, high energy electron.
Basically, it's a source of electricity.
So, if you had a material like cobalt 60 or cobalt 57 and some others, they're even used commercially for making tiny nuclear batteries.
Let's say you have a heart implant, you're not going to change batteries in a heart implant, right?
You don't want to.
Open your chest to put a battery.
What they do, they're starting now to make this tiny nuclear batteries.
Really?
That are powered by these isotopes that emit beta particles.
And it's called beta voltaics.
And they use these now?
Yes.
The drawback of these is very low power.
So you cannot run your iPhone on beta voltaics yet.
In principle, you could.
If you master the nuclear tech to the next level, in principle, you could.
If you generated enough of these isotopes and it was economical enough, because what happens is they constantly produce electricity in terms of this high energy electrons.
And not only can you power something, but also these high energy electrons tend to saturate the lattice of the material with electrons.
And if you recall solid state physics, we have ions and then we have electrons.
And electrons are kind of like a glue that holds the lattice of ions together.
So, if you add too many electrons into your lattice, you change the elastic properties of your material.
So, all of a sudden, the material that was solid may become inappliable or malleable because you're just oversaturated with electrons.
And that's kind of a conjecture hypothesis with some experimental support because I don't know if you heard about the Hutchinson effect.
So, there is this crazy inventor in Canada who is known to have played with radio frequency equipment like radars and radio generators and coils.
And in his experiments, he would all of a sudden spontaneously either metals would fuse or would crack or metal would fuse with non metal.
It's like almost voodoo, but I've seen samples myself, so I know it hasn't been cooked.
And the best explanation I've heard of it is.
Under certain conditions, you can oversaturate a solid state lattice with electrons, and then the plastic properties of the materials change.
So, what idea I get from it if you have a nuclear isotope that emits a lot of beta particles out of all of electrons, you can put it in contact with the body that you want to machine, and all of a sudden, a body that was hard becomes soft as putty.
And then you can machine it without too much effort.
So, it's a different mechanism.
So, with alpha particles, you ablate.
So, you shave off layers by virtue of ions impacting and punching holes.
But with electrons, you change elastic properties.
And that's a transient change.
Oh, this is the Hutchison effect.
So, what is it?
What's happening here, Steve?
I think that's what he's talking about.
Yeah, it's a block of metal.
What is that?
It's metal.
Whoa!
And they're shooting it with beta particles or beta?
Just electromagnetic fields.
Just electromagnetic fields.
Wow.
Oh, that's wild.
A block of iron.
Yeah, I mean, it's unbelievable.
And that's what I'm saying.
I think the answer is in nuclear technology.
So you think that they were using this nuclear technology to soften granite?
I think it's possible.
I don't know.
I can only speculate what happened in the past.
But I'm thinking creatively, as an engineer, what I would do if I wanted to accomplish.
And two things.
Come to mind, yeah, I would use electrons to change the elastic properties of stone and then I'd be able to machine and mold it.
And especially that looks plausible in the context of Peru where you have this polygonal masonry.
And when I look at it, it clearly has superficial evidence of plastic deformation.
And that's why I'm very supremely interested in going there and taking samples that I can study in my lab and my electron microscope and subject those samples to my nuclear instruments to see if I'll be able to spot.
Signs, you know, markers of.
Yeah, let me ask you that.
So, what are the number one thing, like, what are the top things that you would look for for evidence of nuclear radiation?
Excellent question.
Detecting Nuclear Isotopes on Mars00:13:33
Two things.
One is obvious is gamma radiation.
You know what light is.
We all know what light is, right?
But, you know, from the standpoint of physics, light is.
Like visible light, is just a chunk of electromagnetic spectrum that we can perceive with our eyes.
The other chunk of electromagnetic spectrum is infrared, you know, which we perceive as heat.
The other is radio waves, which we do not perceive but, you know, we can emit, transmit them, you know, receive them using antennas.
Another one is ultraviolet, which we, you know, perceive as sun tan, sunburn.
And then there is this invisible radiation, gamma rays, x-rays.
Yes, So, with our bodies, we cannot sense it, but we can sense it with the.
We know it's there.
Yeah, we know it's there.
We can detect it with nuclear detectors.
And some of those detectors, you know, I manufacture myself.
And when you have a detector like that, it gives you a spectrum, gives you frequencies.
And you can tell what are the energies that are emitted.
And we're surrounded by a background radiation field, you know, shit coming from Earth, you know, there's shit in the air.
But if you take a rock and put it next to the detector, and the rock would give off its own spectrum.
And that's what geologists do.
They collect a rock, they put it in the spectrometer, and they can tell what radioactive elements that rock contains.
Because there is a lot of radioactive materials around us in your body, in my body, everywhere.
It's just natural, it's just a very small quantity.
But you look at it and you say, okay, well, I've got some potassium 14, I've got some uranium, thorium, radon.
And that's like one of the things, the first things I looked personally when I started thinking about it, when I met Ben and then when I met Bell.
I took some of Matt's vessels and I put them on my spectrometers and was capturing spectra to see if I would spot anything unusual.
Okay.
And initially I thought I did, but then I talked to some experts because any kind of measurement you make, there is a learning curve.
And it takes a lot of knowledge and experience how to interpret your measurement results.
And that's one thing I've learned how to do in general, like across the engineering disciplines, whether it's viscosity of Crude oil or nuclear radiation or markers of disease, anything that I worked on, you learn how to measure, you learn how to interpret.
So when I was starting, I didn't know how to interpret the results.
So they looked like there were some peaks that I thought were unusual.
But later I realized that they were not unusual, they were just artifacts of the measurement process.
But long story short, so I measured some vessels that I borrowed from Matt Bell.
So, you measured his granite bases?
Yes.
Okay.
And I took a portable version of my spectrometer to the Petrie Museum in London.
I took some measurements there.
They let you do it?
Yeah.
Wow.
And I was very excited initially for the findings that I captured in the Petrie Museum and actually published on my website the spectra because the pots seem to emit gamma rays indicative of.
Yeah, indicative of lead.
And I didn't know at the time that lead was actually a common element.
You see in this, it's actually coal.
It's the eye paint the Egyptians used.
What is that made out of?
That's alabaster or travertine.
Okay.
I actually bought that.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, it's in my collection now.
Is this modern?
No, that's genuine.
It's what?
It's a genon, ancient Egyptian.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I'll talk about that in a moment too.
It's so tiny.
A lot of these are tiny.
So basically, that's kind of the first step.
You look at the gamma.
And I looked and I didn't find anything.
And recently, I bought a much more expensive and state of the art instrument for gamma detection, which was like a godsend.
Usually, I buy shit on eBay.
And for years, I've been watching it.
It was never like a good detector.
It was always some 30 year old junk.
And finally, there was a modern detector, so I bought it.
So that was a gift from God, which is very accurate, you know, very like the best thing.
So I took some measurements and, you know, I didn't see anything on the pots.
But it doesn't mean, you know, I will not find anything on, you know, other samples.
So I'm very interested in taking that detector, let's say to Peru or actually to Egypt and see what I will detect on site.
Because if pots weren't, you know, made using nuclear technology, it doesn't mean.
Some other stones weren't.
So, if these pots were made 5,000 years ago using nuclear technology, you would still see the isotopes on here with this detector.
Yes.
So, one thing you would see is, as I said, the gamma spectrum.
And the other thing, you would see the change in isotopic composition.
That's the other marker.
So, basically, you take a tiny sample of stone from.
Ah.
And you run it through another instrument, and you would see how the isotopic ratios changed.
So, right.
So, if it was softened and shaped from nuclear.
Right.
It would change the composition.
I would expect it to change its isotopic composition.
Not maybe so much the elemental composition, although it might change elemental composition as well, but the change would be small.
And did you take two samples, like one vase of red granite and another chunk of red granite that was not touched?
That's what you have to do.
I haven't done that.
You haven't done that yet?
No, I haven't done it.
I would like to do something like that, but with samples, let's say from the polygonal masonry in Peru.
And that's what I actually asked Ben if he would collect some.
Some material for me for analysis because you know he's there right now.
But you know, I don't believe that the stone vases were worked with any magical technology anymore, and we can talk about that.
But I do believe that we need to study the megaliths and particularly the ones that exhibit the plastic deformations.
What about like that giant 1,000 ton obelisk that was never finished?
There's giant scoop marks out of it.
Well, I'd like to study samples of that, yeah.
So, and there's scoop marks everywhere, yeah.
Yeah, and that's what makes it interesting to me because I don't believe in the diorite pounder because it goes against my belief that people aren't stupid.
So when I hear this theory that sounds stupid that somebody with a pounding block was pounding there, I don't believe any civilization was up for doing stupid work.
Okay, maybe it was done with diorite pounders, but not the way it is described.
You see what I mean?
So I genuinely believe in human ingenuity and inventiveness to where.
Nobody, remember the iRobot movie?
Yeah.
When Will Smith was talking to this lady and they were standing in front of the army of robots and he asked her, How would you find out the guy we're looking for?
She says, Well, we got to interrogate all of them.
Cross reference the responses.
How long will it take?
A couple of years.
He said, You get started.
Yeah.
And he shot the gun and the robot moved and that's how he knew.
That's a classic example of human ingenuity.
We don't do stupid work.
We're lazy.
You know we need too much food.
If you have an army of guys with diuretic pounders, you got to feed them.
You know where are you going to find food to feed them.
You know they're not going to find food themselves and without food they're going to die.
So it's going to be expensive.
So but but you're right, you know that's the kind of sample I need to study and that's why I kind of excited about the idea of going to Egypt and taking my instruments there and making some in situ measurements, because if there are any traits of radioactivity i'll be able to pick it up.
Yeah.
What are these two vases that you brought?
Okay.
Well, I don't know if you want to talk about the vase project or not, but I pretty much closed the book on it.
I think I know how they were made and I can tell you.
You think you know how the vases were made?
Yes.
All of the vases.
Like these ones?
I know how two classes of vases have been made and I have a pretty solid judgment about which vases are genuine and which are fake.
Okay.
So we can go into that rabbit hole.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's do that.
I have a couple questions, though, before we do that about the nuclear stuff.
One, are you aware of the nuclear isotopes that were discovered?
I think on Mars, there was a specific isotope on Mars that was discovered that matched something they find only on sites on Earth where we've done nuclear tests with atomic bombs and thermal radiation.
Yeah, I heard about that.
Xenon.
Yes, that's what it is.
Xenon 129 or something like that.
Yes, it's actually a very interesting story, and I'm glad you reminded me of it because there is some other thing I wanted to tell you about isotopes, which I think is more interesting than anything else.
But it's exactly the marker we're looking for in terms of showing that a man made nuclear reaction took place as opposed to natural.
There is a list of isotopes known as technogenic isotopes, they are not found in nature.
For two reasons.
Either they are like too weird or they are too short lived, meaning if they are produced naturally, it would have decayed and to the point you will not observe them.
So, what was found on Mars fits this technogenic hypothesis because it's an unusual isotope and it's, I think, fairly short lived moon.
So, it's definitely an interesting case.
I cannot comment more on it because I didn't study it closely, but it really caught my attention.
And that's You know what, I'm looking for in this, you know, Egyptian samples or any kind of samples from the man made artifacts that I would like to study.
I'd like to find similar traces because if I find something like that, it's pretty much a smoking gun.
So, xenon, what do you know about xenon?
Uh, is that only a manufactured, or is that can that happen naturally?
Well, xenon is present naturally in the atmosphere, it's like a trace amount, Stephen.
Find the exact isotope, the xenon, what and the number that.
Goes after it that was found, discovered in nuclear, under nuclear explosion sites.
And that was also found on Mars.
Yeah, but that particular xenon is a known product of fission.
So when you have nuclear fission, which happens in nuclear reactors or during an atomic bomb explosion, you get this particular xenon isotope produced in unnatural quantities.
Okay.
And that's how we can tell that a nuclear explosion took place.
Now, in the case of Mars, we don't know what other processes might produce it.
So, therefore, you know, we cannot say definitely it's been a nuclear explosion.
What we can say is consistent with nuclear explosion, but you know, we don't know enough about the physics of Mars to rule out other possibilities.
But you know, I'm not an expert, so I cannot.
Steven, scroll up.
What did you search for?
Let me see what you typed in.
Xenon isotope found in nuclear explosions.
Okay.
Type in Mars after that, see what it comes up with.
I'm curious.
Yeah, Mars.
M A R S. Fuck.
Is it not?
I don't know.
It just didn't show the marker.
There you go.
The isotope xenon, okay, xenon 129 is found in higher abundance on Mars than on Earth.
And this excess is cited as evidence of past nuclear explosions on the planet.
That's insane.
Proponents of this theory suggest that the Martian atmosphere's xenon and krypton isotopic ratios are similar to a mixture of Earth's natural xenon and xenon produced by human made nuclear testing.
Yeah, this is what compels all the theories of like an ancient nuclear catastrophe on Mars.
And the theory that we could have come from Mars, like human beings, we could have terraformed this planet and turned it into something that was habitable by creating the moon and the tides and all that stuff to make this a, that this planet was basically the target of whoever came from Mars as like a breakaway civilization and we evolved.
Yeah, I mean, there are plenty of signs pointing to that.
Static Electricity and Levitation00:13:24
And, you know, don't get me started on this.
I heard a Harvard astrophysicist talking about this yesterday.
Like, it doesn't seem like it's becoming more mainstream.
Well, I think we ought to discuss ideas and we ought to look for evidence.
And when you find evidence for an idea, like in this case, it becomes more interesting.
But then you got to consider alternatives because the way we pass judgment in science is not dissimilar to the court of law.
So you have parties that are arguing, did he kill this person?
Did he not?
Right.
So each party presents their theory.
And at the end of the day, it needs to be beyond reasonable doubt, which means that we considered alternatives and we ruled them out.
So it's never good to say, he killed it because we found the gun.
It's not enough because there could be other explanations.
Sure.
Otherwise, it's just a religion.
Right.
And, you know, with these situations, we got to look at their alternatives.
But what I really wanted to mention, nearly forgot to, is in the case of nuclear isotopes, something else becomes possible.
You know, how these blocks were moved?
Because that's a big question.
We have these multi ton blocks.
How the hell were they moved 500 miles from Osman Quarry, you know, all the way to Giza Plateau, right?
And, The thing is, you know, that Earth is not just a planet.
It's a planet that has an electric field.
You know, we have thunderstorms, right?
You know, Tesla was all about electricity.
It's not controversial at all that we live in a planet that produces a pretty strong electric field, meaning the surface of the planet we stand on is negatively charged, normally, normally.
And the ionosphere is positively charged.
And we live in this, you know, pretty strong electric field that discharges itself during thunderstorms.
We all know that.
What we underappreciate is that we can put this electric field to good work.
And in fact, there are species of spiders on this planet that can sense the electric field.
And when they detect, because it fluctuates during the day, but when it's at the strongest, they can sense it and then they deploy the piece of spider web.
That is negatively charged.
And then negative charges repulse each other.
So the charge of the ground, which is negative, pushes on the charge that the spider deploys, which is also negative.
And then the spider floats, levitates, literally.
And the way they discovered is the spiders were found on ships, like oceanic ships, like thousands and thousands of miles away.
And it was baffling scientists how these spiders end up there.
So they collected a bunch of them and they put them.
In a tin can, basically, with electric fields applied.
And when they started raising the strengths of the field, at some point, spiders' behavior changed.
They sensed that the field was strong enough, so they started deploying the spider webs.
And when the field was strong enough, they started floating.
And then when they killed the field, the spiders basically fell to the floor.
Wow.
Yeah, this is a fairly recent discovery.
It's not controversial, it is very well known.
Yeah, these are the spiders.
Exactly.
Yep.
So, you see, nature takes advantage of the fact that the earth is electrically charged, and these clever spiders use it to float, defeating the gravity, but not in a fantastic way, just relying on electrostatic.
So, once I started thinking about isotopes, about the first thing that crossed my mind you know, shit, you take these beta emitters, and what they do, they emit copious amounts of negative charge.
So, if you produce these isotopes, and let's say you put them on a craft, you know, the craft would float.
In Earth's gravity, just because the static charge on the craft is pushing against the static charge of the Earth, and you get this repulsion of Coulomb charges, and the craft would levitate.
Granted, you'll need to replenish the charge.
So either you have a generator or you have this radioactive isotope that's continually emitting beta particles.
And then it becomes possible to apply this isotope, let's say, to a stone you wish to transport.
And all of a sudden, the stone would lose its weight.
But not because of some magic or whatnot, but because this isotope decays and charges the stone to an immense negative charge to where the field of the earth pushes it up, the electric field of the earth.
Same as in the case of the spider.
Except in the case of the spider, you don't need nuclear science because spider weighs next to nothing, right?
But a huge, giant stone block would require a substantial charge, and you can develop that charge by coding.
Let's say the block with this nuclear isotope that's producing beta particles.
And it's producing them as it decays.
So at some point it will wear off and the stone would settle.
So you could, but how would you move it?
I mean, you just push on it.
So you could hover it and just push it.
Right, basically.
Kind of like a ship.
A ship weighs who knows how many tons.
And it's not that difficult to push it off the dock.
So I think it's the same idea.
Interesting.
And maybe the side effect was that the stones were turning softer in the process just because the.
Crystalline lattice was overwhelmed.
But I think if we're fantasizing about some advanced civilization conducting megalithic construction, I think that's how they would do it.
Because it's entirely within the realm of possible.
And the spiders show us how it's done.
But even there are some places on Earth, like Gobbi Desert, where the electric field is so strong naturally that if you go there, the hair will stand on your head.
Gobbi.
It's in Mongolia.
Oh, okay.
It's China, Mongolia.
I think it's spelled G O B Y or G O B I.
And there are videos that people post when they go there.
The field is so strong, you know, your hair stands and you hear crackling.
Wow.
And there is a danger that you're going to be struck by lightning.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Because, you know, the field is so strong.
Wow.
Is it like super high altitude?
I don't know about the altitude.
But.
It's a known phenomenon and it's considered hell's heather because of the discharge that might materialize and you'll get hit by lightning.
But that's what also happens during a thunderstorm, right?
So you have discharges that discharge naturally.
And in fact, part of the reason why clouds hang in the air is the droplets are statically charged.
So they're floating in the Earth's electric field.
This entire cloud is pushed up by the electric field of the Earth.
And the reason you have rain.
Is because these charges cancel each other and all of a sudden cloud drops and basically becomes rain.
So, this is all like part of natural processes that we're aware of, but we're not using them for engineering for whatever reason.
And that's something I'm very excited to use for engineering purposes because all of a sudden there is an idea of how you make things float like in Star Wars, except you don't use magic.
How would you go about testing something like this?
Actually, there is a way.
And funny enough, in the course of my nuclear research, one of the offshoots.
Of my reactor development, I worked with oil.
I think I mentioned that my reactor is filled with mineral oil.
And when you run that oil through dielectric tubes like Teflon, you have friction of one dielectric against the other one.
And that's a principle of a Vandegraff generator where a belt rubs against a roller and the charges separate and you have like massive charge buildup.
And when I Yeah, that wasn't my plan, but you know, when I, for the first time, I powered my reactor and I needed to filter the oil, and the oil went through the filter and through these tubes, so much charge was developed that you know, the surface of oil inside my reactor curved like a moon crescent.
So it wasn't flat anymore.
It was like very, very concave because oil was cleaning to the sides of the metal vessel because there was so much charge in the oil.
Wow.
And on some of my fittings, so some of my pipes were metal and some of my pipes were just regular hydraulic lines.
Which are rubber.
And there was so much potential buildup over them that a spark was jumping on the outside surface.
And I couldn't figure this out.
So I'm pumping and I see this crackling and flashes of light like, what the hell is going on?
And then I realized, oh shit, I'm developing this super strong electrostatic charges just by pushing oil through a dielectric medium.
And I thought, shit, I could use it to charge something like I just described and see if I can defeat the gravity just by compensating it with electrostatic repulsion.
And that's on my to do list to try later this year or maybe sometime next year because it's an easy thing to do if you know how to push oil through plastic tubes, basically.
Wow.
So, yeah, maybe I'll be able to get levitation to work if I don't get an infusion to work.
But that's one of the things that interests me.
And this somehow all meshes with ancient history because one thing kind of excites the thinking.
In the other direction, and you start thinking, well, how they could have moved stone, and then you realize, oh, they could have used static electricity.
We all know about it, we just don't utilize it.
And that's another thing I wanted to mention.
Kind of human engineering approaches static electricity as a nuisance.
So we work to get rid of it.
And instead, we rely on this AC, which is alternating currents with no static charges.
You know, if we changed our thinking and stopped treating static electricity as a nuisance, we could actually build levitation off it and we could build like tractor beams and who knows what because electric force is so strong.
Because when you think of it, what makes us able to detect Voyager spacecraft that is a billion of miles away?
It's the motion of electrons on a tiny antenna back and forth.
So we have a handful of electrons a billion miles away that.
Move back and forth, and we're able to sense their motion here on Earth just because the force is so strong.
Are so strongly connected by terms of electric fields.
If we just allowed our thinking to shift from alternating currents towards static charges and not try to compensate for them, because there are anecdotes when you say I have a factory that makes a polyethylene wrap.
So you have like a giant roller on that wrap.
And when you unroll polyethylene, you have charge separation.
And static electricity is so strong.
That if you don't do the like anti static measures, the birds would be sucked into the roller, cats, you know, rats, you know, people, because you know the charges are so strong because you know you spin it fast.
So, we know capability is there, we just work to get rid of it as opposed to harness it.
And that's kind of what I'm proposing.
And I think it might be easier, you know, if you master nuclear science better because then you can produce static charges on demand.
You know, there is a lot of Conspiracy that government might already have it because we have this UFOs and unexplained crafts.
So some people would say, oh, because government have this black ops and secret skunk work projects and they've figured this shit out.
And initially it sounds like bullshit, but then when you realize, oh, maybe they mastered nuclear technology and not telling us about it, maybe they're able to generate static charges and maybe the next generation crafts that we interpret as UFOs are really built on that technology, is able to generate electricity on the fly.
And that compensates for its gravity.
So you have a craft that's hovering or flying, not because it has engines that are working to move air or jet engines, but because it's producing electricity that's compensating, basically acting against the charge of the earth and balancing the craft in that way.
So I think it's a very fruitful idea for research.
And in fact, it's particularly easier to.
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Someone will pay you a visit if you get too far down that rabbit hole.
Yeah, well, I think it's even easier to.
Implement if you have like a tunnel because in a tunnel you can actually control a field and you can boost Earth's field and you can have objects in a levitate through tunnel because you can control the strength of the field.
Right.
Well, it's a whole subject, yes.
All right, let's go to these bases.
You figured out how they're made.
Let's figure out how to do that.
I think so.
Yeah, and unfortunately for ancient tech, I think the explanation is trivial.
But let me.
Show you a few actually.
I brought a few.
This is Matt's vase, by the way, which is very representative from the vases that I studied personally at the Petrie Museum and in Matt's collection.
Have you measured this one?
Yes.
How precise is this one?
It's consistent with manual precision.
It just looks like it was made with clay, like someone pinch plotted it.
Yes.
Especially these little, whatever these little handles are.
I would say it's made by grinding.
I'll show you another one.
You know, this one I bought.
So, this is mine.
And this is also like finely made.
Where did you buy it?
This one I bought on eBay, believe it or not.
And I was able to run some tests on it to show that it's genuine.
And I'll talk about it.
To show that it's genuine.
Where is it allegedly from?
Egypt, of course.
From underneath the.
I don't know where it was found.
It's got like a provenance that lists the gallery that sold it.
But I ran some tests.
I know this is pretty nasty.
This is an example from a private collector.
His name is Jordan Morris.
He lives in Australia.
He bought like seven or eight of these and he sent a few of them to me to study.
I think this is limestone.
This is also pre dynastic, so I was able to determine that.
And this is very finely made.
Wow.
And of course, you've seen this one, right?
Which was also bought.
And I'll show you two more.
So one is modern and one is ancient.
And I'm pretty sure you'll be able to tell which one is modern and one is.
Ancient, yeah, and both are alabaster, which is not really alabaster, it's uh, it's called alabaster, but it's travertine or calcite.
This one's ancient, yes, because it's better made.
I picked out the one that looked more perfect, yeah, and the other one is modern.
You can feel the outside of this, how it's kind of crude, yeah, and of course, you know, this is like 20 bucks.
So in Egypt, it costs even less than that, but there is an industry where they make alabaster vases using the same ancient technique, you know, they used for thousands of years.
And they're making the tourist vases, and some are better, some are worse.
But I bought a real cheap one, you know, just to get the quality.
Yeah.
But long story short, I would ask Steve to pull up a few pictures, if you wouldn't mind.
Is it that slideshow?
Yes, if you wouldn't mind.
So, you know, I was really inspired by this whole, you know, vase talk to really dive deep into it because I've.
I don't know.
It's just something about it really ignited my interest because I like math.
And to me, it's a mathematical problem.
You can answer the question of how these were made by looking at the mathematical properties of the 3D scans.
And I was fortunate that Matt Bell agreed to work with me and he shared a bunch of CT scans of his vessels with me that I was able to study and develop a metrological technique, basically, a mathematical algorithm that.
That can tell me what's happening as far as how this vase was made.
And the first thing I've done, I've determined or rather defined a quality metric.
Is when you look at a vessel, let's say, you know, this modern vessel, or let's say this ancient vessel, you know, how can you characterize it?
And the typical metric that we use when we machine is tolerance, right?
And we say that something is machined to a certain tolerance, and I think it's not a particularly useful.
Thing for archaeological objects because we don't know what the blueprint for it was, right?
So, was it precisely made, not precisely made?
It's impossible to tell unless you have a blueprint.
So, what I did instead, I developed a quality metric which is a combination of concentricity and circularity, which is by slicing the 3D model of a vessel, if it's like rotational symmetric, you get more or less circles.
Yeah, and how circular those slices are, that's your circularity, right?
How well aligned they are, you know, that's your concentricity.
And what I've done, I've scanned like almost 200 vessels, about 60 or 70 modern ones, you know, like this one, like this granite vase, you know, which is run of the mill, you know, from China for 40 bucks, made out of solid granite.
How is that made?
Turned on a lathe, but not using like a metal cutter, using a diamond coated wheel.
Oh, wow.
So for cutters, they use diamond coated wheels.
Okay.
And this one was turned on a lathe because this is like calcite.
This is called like Pakistani onyx, but it's really not onyx, it's calcite.
It just looks like onyx.
But this was turned on a lace using a metal cutter, and this was turned using a diamond wheel.
So I scanned about 100 of modern objects, some like this, some like this.
Right.
Some handmade.
So I bought like 30 handmade objects just to get a sample.
So this wasn't done on a computerized CNC type deal?
Mm hmm.
Okay.
This was done manually on a lathe, but manually without CNC.
This was CNC, this was manual lathe work.
Got it.
And this is like entirely manual production.
Okay.
And I've built a chart.
So let me see.
Let's scroll down.
Oh, okay.
There is a chart there, I think slide number 13.
There you go.
Yeah.
I think that's a pretty telling chart.
So what you see here is three types of objects yellow, blue, and red.
And yellow are all of the modern objects.
You know, these vases that are made on CNC or on leaf.
Red are all of the, you know, manual, you know, this that I bought from Egypt or made by other artists by hand.
So I know for a fact, you know, the red triangles are made by hand.
Okay.
And the blue ones are all of the objects I measured in the Petri Museum.
And what we see that the blue squares are entirely, you know, the same distribution as the red triangles.
Yeah.
And completely is not matching at all in the distribution of yellow dots.
So, what it tells me, you know, without any doubt, is that the machine made quality is clearly distinguishable from a handmade quality in terms of, you know, concentricity and circularity when you represent it this way.
So, this chart is basically able to expose or tell apart machine work from, you know, manual work.
Right.
Because on a machine, your circularity is concentricity is far greater.
And that's why your yellow points are grouped towards the lower corner.
So it tells you it's higher quality.
And none of the Petri Museum objects is nearly remotely in that area.
Which, if we go down one slide, there is another interesting observation.
It's slide 14.
Yeah, good.
So, this is a map of how the outer surface was ground or made versus the inner surface.
Okay.
And once again, the yellow area is the machine made objects made on a lathe.
The red are the manual objects that are made by Egyptians and other artists by hand by just grinding and turning an auger.
And the blue one is the pea tree.
And you can see that the blue is separate from everything else.
And without going into too much detail, What you know, the left chart I think is for the outer surface, and the right one is for the inner surface.
Yeah, that's how they're grouped.
Is telling us that the in the case of the outer surface, the object was turned.
So, when they were so, take this pretty nasty object.
So, when they were making the outer surface, they were turning this object and they were grinding it against a grinding block.
And that's what you know, this first chart is telling us because the circularity is poor, but concentricity is okay.
And that's what you get when you turn an object because the entire object is on the same axis.
It's turning as a whole.
So, good concentricity, but poor circularity because it's rubbing against a rubbing stone that's just set next to it.
And it's not like a particularly precise setup.
And then that's what you get.
The situation is more interesting with the inner surface because we see very good circularity and poor concentricity, which is consistent with grinding using a grinding bit.
Because grinding bit turns on the axis pretty regularly, it will give you a very nice circle.
But as you move the bit, because it's manually positioned, Every time it repositions and you lose this initial alignment.
So, therefore, from these charts, the inescapable conclusion is that the outer surface is shaped by turning the rock or the object itself against the grinding block, whereas the inner object surface is shaped by turning the grinder against the surface of the object.
So, then I took the Matt's vessels and I ran them through this chart.
And you can see they broadly group into two categories.
You know, one category is at the bottom left corner.
That is, you know, 100% consistent with modern machining.
There is no difference.
Whereas the rest of the object, you know, is pretty much consistent with manual labor or with what I found at the Petri.
These are all mats vessels.
Yes.
Yeah.
Those that I was given signs of.
Now, what is the pre dynastic, the blue?
What is that?
That's the Petrie Museum objects.
That's how I classify that type of stonework.
I call it pre dynastic because that's where it originated.
But mats are also pre dynastic, right?
Majority of his objects are.
So by applying this meteorological technique that I developed, I'm able to testify that the vast majority of his objects are genuine because they align with the pre dynastic quality.
However, unfortunately for the proponents or advocates of the ancient machining hypothesis, I also submit.
And submit on the basis of my findings that the most precise objects from his collections, and for that matter, from the other collections I was able to look at, are entirely consistent with modern machining.
So I believe that those aren't genuine objects.
I believe that those are made in modern times, meaning lasting 100, 200 years.
Okay.
Because when I look at them, they group.
The bottom left.
Yeah, the bottom left.
They group exactly separately.
They group exactly as modern objects are, and they're not.
At all consistent with the rest of the vases in the study.
Okay.
And granted, I haven't scanned every single object in a museum, right?
So I cannot say I've looked at every single one, right?
How many roughly did you look at?
I scanned 20 museum objects and I looked at overall nearly 100 objects in private collections.
Okay.
In a majority from Matt's collection, but a good deal from Jordan Morris's collection.
And another gentleman I met on the internet also sent me his collection, which I also scanned.
Okay.
And every time the objects fall into two categories, if there is nothing in between, it's either the bottom left corner where it's modern machining, or it's this general cloud that coincides with both manual made or pre dynastic quality.
And I think the conclusion is inescapable.
The finely made objects are on provenance, so we don't know where they came from, right?
They are alleged to be of ancient Egyptian origin, but we don't know.
We don't know where they were found.
And when they look like modern, I think they are modern.
It's basically when it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it ought to be a duck.
Now, do those ones on the bottom left that are perfectly machined have these little handles that are built into them?
Yes.
Okay.
And to me, this situation is not surprising because Egyptian antiquities is the most forged artifact in history.
Right.
It's been known for hundreds of years.
And even to this day, the subject of authenticity is the most widely discussed.
Because the most recent example is, I think, the Barcelona Museum.
They purchased a bunch of their Egyptian antiquities on open markets.
And they've been criticized by basically buying fakes because Egyptologists know that a lot of high profile purchases end up being fake in terms of Egyptian antiquities.
And there are particular antiquities dealers that are more notoriously for selling fakes to museums like the British Museum or the Berlin Museum.
And later, you know, those cases are exposed.
But there is also an argument that museums serve the purpose of entertainment.
You know, not all museums conduct research.
Some are just, you know, to drive tourists, you know, to sell tickets.
So therefore, they exhibit objects of interest, whether genuine or not.
And for that matter, a good example is a crystal skull at the British Museum.
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You know, the crystal skull history.
So that particular skull was shown to be in a modern reproduction because of traces of the diamond wheel.
Were found on its surface when it was looked, examined through electron microscope.
But they decided to keep, you know, the object in the exhibit and use it as an opportunity to educate the public about the forgery you know.
Sure, here's tickets, here is a very, you know, popular item.
We didn't know how it was made, you know, until we looked at the electron microscope and we know the you know traces.
So therefore, I I don't think it's surprising and uh, I think it's expected.
Besides, you know, forgery for the sake of forgery, there's also Forgery for the sake of imitation.
For example, royal families in Europe, they wanted to have Egyptian antiquities and they had their workshops make stuff for them that looked Egyptian.
Like the Russian Tsar family had a Fabergé workshop that made niceties for the royal family.
Whatever prince or princess wanted, they made.
So it's not a stretch that they made some artifacts that were imitating ancient Egyptian.
Sure.
Objects just for the sake of entertainment for the royalty and nobility because interest was there.
So that's kind of my conclusion about the story of the vases.
I do believe so.
You believe all of the super precise faces that were measured in CT scans and light scans that showed to be like within the deviation of one one thousandth of an inch or the deviation of like less than the width of a human hair, those were created on modern CNC machines and they were not ancient.
Not necessarily CNC, but on modern machines.
Those things aren't ancient.
Yeah, I don't believe that those things are ancient.
Even though they're so thin, like they're so popular.
Yeah, the interesting thing is when I was looking into the topic of manufacturing of these granite vases, so I contacted Chinese manufacturers and they just drowned me with proposals on what they can make.
And they've sent me so many videos that blew my mind, which reminded me of a story when I think Steve Jobs wanted to make an iPhone.
He went to American manufacturers and they said, well, Let us think about it.
And then he went to Chinese manufacturers, and the next day they brought him samples.
So it was a very similar story.
You know that story?
No.
It was a sample of a screen.
He wanted a sample of a screen.
He couldn't get one from American manufacturers, but Chinese brought him samples the next day.
Wow.
Yeah.
So, a similar situation exists for the granite manufacturing.
It's actually very developed because evidently there is demand for various granite vessels that are culturally specific, like rice pots and pots for spices and whatnot.
They sent me a bunch of pictures of what they make currently for their customers.
And they showed me videos of their various CNC implements or the machine.
It is vessels and vases, yeah.
And I bought this one, and this is a reject because it has chips and nicks in it, and it seems to be like more precise than you know, than all of them, yeah.
Basically, and it's run of the mill, you know, it's nothing special, it's basically a flower vase for a cemetery straight tube, right?
Shot straight down, yeah.
They can make um inner cavities hollow to the spec because they use diamond saws for it, yeah, yeah.
That's wild.
So, I'm even considering commissioning them a replica of the Egyptian vase.
Yeah, we should do that.
We should get them to create a granite one.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe I should because they basically asked me to send them a drawing and then they already gave me a quote.
I think they wanted like 500 bucks to make one.
Okay.
So, maybe.
Well, we have all those scans, right?
Even we had Carly and Adam Young in here a couple weeks ago and they were showing me all those scanned measurements they have of those vases.
Yeah, I can see them.
You know, a CAD drawing and they'll make a bunch.
Wow.
That's fascinating, man.
Yeah.
So I was really blown.
I didn't really expect how developed that industry is and they sell these machines.
So the particular outlet I was in touch, they mostly sell machines to other manufacturers.
And a lot of those machines are capable of machining like multiple granite or stone objects at the same time.
So they have like multiple heads and multiple cutters and they all go in unison to CNC in a route and they cut the shapes inside and outside.
Credit, there are some limitations on what they can and cannot do in terms of size.
Too small, they don't have the tools, too large, and they don't have the tools.
But anything between two and 200 inches is covered and costs next to nothing.
Wow, man.
So maybe we ought to get one done.
That's wild, dude.
Yeah, I mean, that wasn't the conclusion I was looking for, but I kind of cannot hold it back.
And I know I talked to Matt about it on and off, and he was floating the idea that he didn't know whether his objects were.
Some of his objects were genuine or not, but now I can say that based on analysis, I can vouch for what objects I think are genuine in his collection or in other collections and what objects I wouldn't say that they're genuine just because they too closely match modern production techniques and we don't see anything like that in the museums.
Wow, man.
What about the Petri Core?
It's crazy to me that even though these things aren't super precise, From your study, that what they were doing wasn't super precise.
But it does seem to me that, like, they must have had something that we can't explain to, like, create some of these cores.
And even, like, the stuff that Ben talks about, like, with those giant rocks with the saw cuts in them that are, like, perfectly.
I'm glad you asked because, um, look at this.
The hole in here is super precise.
Yeah.
It's, like, more precise than anything I've seen.
Or look at this.
This coal vessel.
You know, the hole in this is super precise.
And do you think it's difficult to do?
No, it's accomplished with a bow drill.
And that's what happens when you have like abrasive.
So, the way you use a bow drill, basically, you have a bit on a stick and you have a bow that rotates it.
But the reason you get like a very precise cut is the abrasive.
And this shouldn't be surprising because, you know, there are plenty of examples of it in nature.
You walk on a beach that's covered in stone, not in sand, but in stone, and all the stones are rounded.
Yeah.
Pebbles, right?
So, why pebbles are rounded?
It's because abrasive sand rounds everything.
And the more you grind, the rounder it becomes.
And when you have a bow drill with an abrasive set to any type of stone, you get a perfectly insanely round hole that's the same amount of roundness as you get when you put a modern drill bit through a metal or anything for that matter.
And I was blown away because I paid not very much for this.
I'm like, damn, it's a bow drill.
And damn, it's precise.
And then I measure this, and it's like the second most precise measurement I ever took.
And this time it's in Basalt.
Like, fuck, I didn't expect, but that's what you get.
And the same, you know, with quarters.
And it's actually been proven by UPenn.
Researchers at UPenn examined tubular drilling.
So when you have a copper tube and you set it, let's say, on granite.
And once again, the drilling action is accomplished not by copper, it's accomplished by the abrasive.
And what copper does, it just drags the abrasive along.
And for that matter, it was shown that you can even drill with wooden.
Because wood wedges these sand particles, and that's what does the cutting.
And what you get, not only like a supremely round cut, you also get these striations that we observe on petri core.
And those striations have been studied in depth to where it was shown that the line that forms, if you trace it, it's not like a uniform line, it's a bunch of lines and it intersects and overlaps.
It's entirely consistent with the abrasive action.
So it's inconsistent, let's say, with a diamond tooth.
Or a cutter tooth going a spiral.
That's not what we see.
Instead, we see a bunch of tracks that crisscross, overlap.
Okay.
I thought that he wrapped a string around it and found that it was.
To some point.
So I think it was a bit of a mystification.
So depending on how carefully you do, but enough people looked at it, including shout out to Night Scarab.
So he did a particularly good job into unrolling the petri core and tracing the grooves.
So unfortunately, that's what you get when you use abrasive.
And for that matter, When I picked up objects at the Petrick collection with nicely done interior, like this one, for example, I looked at, I see the number, I recognize it.
When you look inside, it has a bunch of striations that look like lathe marks.
But in fact, those are the marks from the abrasive dragging against the side of the vessel.
Because the interior, when you look at the scan, is not perfect.
It's this way and that way, it's nicely circular, but it's not concentric.
Right and you don't get that.
On the lace and the grooves that are left are, you know they're crisscrossed, they overlap they just superficially because they're so fine.
You know they superficially look they're lathe marks, but they're not.
So you debunked, you debunked the Egyptian vases.
I can't believe it.
Pretty much did, and my conclusion is, uh this, this is an amazing stone working technique.
So what we underappreciate it is how effective it is, and I also believe and I speculate here, I think they use some level of automation To do it.
I don't think, you know, I don't, once again, I mentioned it many times, I don't think people were stupid.
So I don't think anybody, you know, was turning the wheel.
So, maybe it was the action of water or a donkey working in a circle.
But I think it was automated enough to where this grinder bit was just turning, turning, and turning.
And by the way, I have a slide there with the bits.
Let's show it, Steve.
I think it's the maybe last slide.
The last one, the very last.
Yeah.
So, those are objects from the Petrie Museum that I believe were the grinding bits.
They look exactly like you would expect from a modern.
Tool shop.
And the thing is, there are like a bunch of them.
And what's the first thing you notice when you walk to a machine shop?
You notice an endless variety of cutters and bits.
Like every machinist has a zillion cutters and zillion bits.
And you go to a museum and you see, you know, these cutters and bits, except they're classified as mace heads.
Right.
And, you know, Matt Bell was quick to point out that the mace head at the bottom looks like a cut out piece of a vase.
But I think at the end of the day, it was used for grinding because it has this exact shape.
That you need to grind.
Each of these pieces are perfect examples of what you would use for grinding, especially the elongated one, because the elongated one you would use for hollowing out the inside.
And there are a bunch of them, different sizes, different shapes.
It's just countless and countless.
And the piece to the right, I think it's the rubbing block for the outer surface.
Oh, wow.
And I think that's, they classify them as a fragment of the vessel because that's what it looks like.
But to me, it looks more like a grinding block, something you set next to the vase when it turns.
And you grind and shave, shave off layers and layers until it becomes round enough.
But you know, there are hundreds, you know, thousands of this, and it matches exactly kind of the tool set you need.
And if we go to one slide up, uh, Steve, yeah, that's a reconstruction from a known stone mill in here.
Here, man, where is my tone when I need it?
Here, okay, let's here, okay, Coppola is, yeah.
If you go up one slide, there is a depiction of it on the so it was found on sarcophagus in Turkey.
Oh, wow.
And then they did a reconstruction.
So it's unknown, but it's in Hellenistic time, right?
So it's not like pre dynastic Egyptian, but it's not a stretch, you know, to extrapolate from this to turning, you know, grinding blocks on these vases, you know, maybe a thousand years before that because it just makes sense.
But maybe it wasn't water, maybe it was, you know, a dunk or something like that, but it's grinding.
Yeah.
And.
Wow.
Well, that's awesome, man.
I mean, it takes good, it takes scientific people like you to pressure test some of these theories, and I'm glad you're doing it.
That's a fascinating work you're doing.
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Thank you.
Tell people where they can find you, learn more about your work and all that stuff.
Yeah, of course.
I have a website called maximus.energy, and that's, you know, where my devices that I make for nuclear science, and that's where my fusion research is, and this is why my Egyptology blog.
I also have a YouTube channel, and it's also, I think, Maximus Energy.
And I'm not a YouTuber, so I don't produce videos for a living.
So occasionally I would put a video there too.
If you're curious to know what music I used to make in my past life, you can find me on Spotify or iTunes on the Ultramax.
And you'll.
Oh, and I have a gift for you.
A gift from my past life, a CD.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I know it's more like a token souvenir, but heck, I have something tangible.
Well, that's amazing.
Is that you?
Yeah, it's me, younger and more handsome.
Wow.
And I'm also would like to say that I'm I wrote a book, like a fiction, you know, my kind of artistic take on how, you know, this past civilization, you know, could have lived or evolved.
And of course, it involves extraterrestrial beings.
And of course, it has to be a trilogy.
So I finished, nearly finished first book.
It's called Order and Chaos.
I have a website, Order and Chaos.
Book.com, but I have not quite finished it.
Maybe it will be finished in a couple of months, maybe sometimes next year.
But that's how I express my wild artistic ideas about what might have happened in the past and what these beings were and why they came to this planet and whatnot.
Fascinating stuff, man.
Well, we'll link it all below for people to check it out.
Dude, thanks again for doing this, man.
This has been.
Well, thank you for having me.
I appreciate the opportunity to share some of the crazy ideas.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
We'll have to do it again once you are able to implement some of these experiments and find out more stuff.