Bubba the Love Sponge details Hulk Hogan's suspicious death following a risky neck fusion, alleging the wrestler ignored medical warnings to promote beer. He recounts how surveillance footage from 1998, intended to prove consent, was mishandled by his agent and sold to Gawker, triggering a $52 million settlement that ruined Bubba's life while enriching Hogan. The discussion covers Bubba's radio history, including the "12 Boobs of Christmas" contest and legal battles with prosecutors like Mark Ober, before critiquing modern media ethics and AI content moderation. Ultimately, the episode highlights how past mistakes in celebrity culture continue to shape current legal and societal narratives regarding consent and accountability. [Automatically generated summary]
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King of Podcasts on SiriusXM00:14:44
Power pig, hello.
We're back.
Power pig, hello.
Go to bed, you little fetus.
How old are you?
I'm 12.
Call me in six years.
Call me when you got some pubes.
What's your name, Lisa?
Lisa, do you go to middle school?
Yes.
Is your mom and dad still together?
No.
Good.
How would you like to ride in a Love Spudge limousine tomorrow to school while I'm your mom tomorrow night?
That's some Power Pig stuff right there.
Man, missed those days.
Oh, my God.
I came in after the Power Pig days.
I came in.
You came on the 98 rocker?
I came in the bone days.
The bone, yeah.
Oh, the bone.
You weren't even a 98 rocker?
No, it would have been 2006 or something.
Yeah, that would have been the bone.
Yeah.
We were even crazier on 98 rocker.
I was in the back of a painting truck, Munyan painting truck, driving to work every morning at 5, 6 a.m. on the back of a paint truck, listening to Bubba every single morning.
And now look at you.
You're a superstar.
You got more.
You got more listeners than I do, jacked up on the gas, getting ready to get a new studio.
I mean, just look at you drinking cranium drinks and nicotine patches.
Pouches galore.
God.
I think you bought this whole building from the AC people, didn't you?
No.
Oh, okay.
No, no, no, no.
We're moving out of here, bro.
We got a new place up in Scientology Lane.
I know.
When do you guys start that?
Man, we've been doing construction since March, and we're trying to move in next month.
Really?
Yeah, we just got to finish up the little scene.
What's going to be the difference?
Is it going to be kind of like a Pat McAfee, like kind of a, you know, let me say that.
Like kind of a, where you can produce all kinds of content?
We got a full gym in there.
We got the golf simulator going in.
We got a full man cave theater with a bar, like a movie theater.
Have you ever seen Tim Pool's set up?
I did Tim Pool's podcast.
Did you?
Six months ago.
Oh, no shit.
Yeah, in the middle of West Virginia.
Yeah.
And a big compound, and you should see his.
He's got like, if you got a half pike, he's got like a 10 pike.
I don't know what the hell he is.
He's got a full skate park in there.
Full blown.
Yeah.
Full blown.
Yeah.
You know, but I mean, I don't know if him and I, see, you and I can jive a little bit, you know, but I was really nervous there.
Really?
Well, because it was very political, and I'm not that political, you know, and I think my buddy Alex Stein got me booked on there, and they had me on.
Oh, listen, great dude.
Great dude.
Big audience.
Smart.
You know what I think?
Because I think he's so funny.
Smart than he, than he, like, I felt stupid, you know.
I mean, yeah, he's so so so smart, yeah, yeah.
He's a super smart political genius, he's he's really into the political stuff, yeah.
And this does like six shows a day, does he really?
He does like Tim Pool IRL, then Tim Pool Uncensored.
Oh, yeah, all those different shows, yeah.
Then he's got so when you pull into his compound, he's got this one house that's on the outside of the compound and it's got two studios in it for two different shows, and then he's got this big warehouse where the Full pike and the skateboard deals.
And the craziest thing to me about Tim Pool is like, I've always seen his interviews, like his Rogan interviews and his podcast, which is incredible.
But the first time I ever saw him, like, not, you know, usually when you see, when you're used to seeing people talking on talk shows, you only see them from like here up and you're used to that.
And when you see them from head to toe, it kind of like throws you off.
Yeah.
And he always keeps the same.
He's got that same cap with that same gimmick on.
I saw a video of him on Instagram like a year or so ago of skateboarding.
And he rips on a skateboard.
Oh, dude, he rips like you wouldn't believe.
They were just over there.
When I was there, they were just kind of like maybe screwing around a little bit.
And he was going down these rails.
Yeah, it's crazy.
And then here's my fat ass who, if I got on a skateboard, I'd break it.
And I'm like, look at all these skinny guys over here, half piking and stuff.
I am so out of my element.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, where's the buffet?
Yeah, dude.
It's a good dude, though, man.
Good dude.
You know, I've not done a lot of podcasts.
I know you haven't.
It's just you, Tim Poole, and I don't think I've done anybody else really.
Maybe a couple little ones.
Like, I think I did something.
Well, the funny thing is, you had the king of podcasts on your radio show.
Years ago, Joe Rogan, which is incredible.
Oh, what a good it was!
Such a good interview, too.
He's talking about like doing DMT and licking frogs, licking frogs.
And he's like, What did he say?
He he described himself as uh the conduit between the stoners and the juice heads or something like that.
Oh, yeah.
And you know, I didn't even really, you know, I i knew you know, knew of Joe from from was it survivor or no fear, fear, fear factor.
And then I knew his stand up, you know, this is in 2008.
Little did I know that you know he would come on to.
Be one of the largest in the space.
Did you ever think that even when you had him on?
He told me.
So when we were done, and at that time I was doing two shows a day.
I was doing mornings on the bone, which was syndicated on like 19 or 20 stations terrestrially.
And then we would take a four hour break and then we would do afternoons on Sirius XM.
So as I'm walking Joe out, Joe's like, hey man, what you should do is after this show, this uncensored.
Serious XM show.
You should sit down for like 45 minutes, you and the boys and just about anything you know any, anything that you didn't get to on this show, just and put it up as a podcast.
Make it look kind of exclusive for people to to get, but make it different from what you're doing.
And I was like Joe man, i'm so tired now and you know I I got a family and everything.
I don't even know anything about this podcasting or whatever he's like.
Just just think about it, man.
Was I stupid for not listening?
You know I should.
I should have jumped right on it, but He's got what a brilliant mind and what a great career.
And, you know, the crazy thing about him to me is that he's like, not only is he at the top of not just podcasting, I mean, he's at the top of media and he gets more downloads and views than all media combined, but he also is the number one.
Like, he does out of all the podcasts, I think he puts out more than any other podcaster.
He literally records four or five days a week.
Well, he's he's he has got he's he's he's pop culture now, meaning like if you want your message delivered or you, Are you wanting to know what's going on in the world or want to be able to think outside the media box?
The you know, the standard, then you go to Joe, and everybody, I mean, the numbers are astronomical.
And he has become, you know, I worked for Howard, you know, I, I, and I don't ever speak illly of Howard, but he is the king of media.
I mean, Joe Rogan is the new, I don't know if he's the new, I think it's been, it's been, it's been that way for a while, but he also still is still just an absolute.
Rockstar on UFC, you know.
I mean, uh, he doesn't really need that if you know if he didn't, if he, but he must he just absolutely loves it.
And I mean, you know, he is he sells out you know arenas for his comedy, yeah.
So, and then and he made the best decision of all was getting the out of California and going to Texas.
So, God bless him, man.
What a good dude, yeah, man.
He is he is absolutely on fire.
But like for you, what has it been like?
Cause you were the, you were the equivalent of, I mean, you weren't like Howard Stern level, but you were like top level.
Actually, during my, when we were at, if you, when I know that you've watched the documentary.
Yes.
And there was a time where my call volume was larger than Howard's when I worked with him.
Now, at that time, they didn't have a way to gauge.
They didn't have Nielsen or Arbitron or anything.
And they still don't.
But they didn't have a way.
The only way they would gauge how good a show was doing was how many attempted callers.
Now, I don't know if that's the right way to gauge or not, But at one time I had more people attempting to call my show than Howard.
Now you can attribute that a little bit to maybe mornings versus afternoons.
People in afternoon might be more likely to call than in the morning when they're first waking up.
But you know my one.
One of the reasons why Sirius XM got rid of me is because I posed a threat to Howard.
Oh, really?
And if you watch the documentary, you know, my agent says, you know, why would Howard want me on his channel for pennies on the dollar?
Because Howard's manager, Don Buckwald, who's now dead, told Tim Sabian, who was the president of Howard's channels, when they were getting rid of me, they're like, listen, management at SiriusXM is going to use Bubba against us in negotiation.
Why do we have to pay Howard $100 million?
when we can pay Bubba 5 million and get nearly the same audience.
So that's why I got off from SiriusXM.
A lot of people don't know that.
And I've not told that story anywhere.
But I have validation through the guy, Tim Sabian, who ran the channels, who was the program director of Howard 100 and 101 and was part of getting me fired.
And that was one of the reasons why they fired me.
That's such a crazy thing how that media landscaped.
The just like the talk media landscape has shifted so much because that sounds like such a petty way of doing business, like it's such a weird sort of thing.
But you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars now.
So you're talking about like they're paying me a million five, yeah, and they're paying Howard a hundred million.
So I mean, you know, there's a lot at stake there.
So Howard's people, Howard's agent needs to protect that hundred million, and he's got a guy in here, some white trash mother from Florida that's doing it for a million five, right.
And he's afraid management's going to come to him and say, listen, Buckwald, we got numb nuts Bubba doing it for a million five.
Why do we want to pay Howard a hundred million?
Right.
I guess that's.
So it's such a, it's the numbers are, the reason why it's so cutthroat is because the numbers are astronomical as far as what Howard was making.
Right.
And that all of the viewers are on this one specific platform during this one specific time and it's a subscription thing.
It's not, it's, it's, it's the complete opposite of YouTube, basically.
And it's not nearly as sexy now as it was then.
You know, in 07, 08, you know, Sirius XM was about the sexiest person on the dashboard, you know, as far as dashboard real estate.
I mean, you know, it wasn't as easy to pipe your Google Play or, you know, your Apple iTunes through your dashboard as it is now.
I mean, every car now is, you know, you Bluetooth in and there you are.
I can listen to you guys.
I can listen to Rogan.
I can listen to any, you know, Adam Kroll.
I can listen to anybody.
I don't have to listen.
I don't have to be hooked up to a signal.
I just have to have cell service.
Exactly.
And so now, what SiriusXM was in 07, 08, super sexy on the dashboard, has now become right here.
You got to deliver your content to this device in order to be relevant.
Right.
I mean, you know, whether it's YouTube, you know, whether it's podcasting, most of it's aggregated through a cell phone.
And when you have to do, when you have to publish all of your stuff on social media and your show has to live on social media and be in competition with millions of other shows that are doing the same exact thing.
And there's so much shit out there.
I'm looking for the, remember back in the 90s where they had the dot com bubble burst?
So they had the dot com craze.
And everybody had a .com.
They had wipemyass.com.
I mean, they had every .com you can think of.
And these .coms were making lots of money.
Well, then it burst.
Then the .com bubble burst and only the good punched through.
Only the relevant stuff on the .com world punched through.
I don't know if I'll be around, but I think that that's going to happen with podcasting.
I think podcasting is becoming so watered down and so much.
Shit out there that I think eventually all these people that are producing shit are going to quit because they don't realize that making money in podcasting is not as easy as just two people bullshitting.
It's a slow burn.
It's the right guest.
It's the right host.
It's aggregating through the right channels.
It's the right algorithm.
It's the right hashtag.
It's the right everything.
And the average person who gets fired from radio or whatever thinks that they can just start or Or anybody that has $100 can go rent a podcast studio and they think instantaneously they're going to have a huge audience.
And so, podcasting, I still think needs the kind of cleanse the shit moment because there's just so much shit out there.
Yes.
But it does also, when you are good and you have a following, it makes it that much more special when you do have the numbers to back up a good podcast.
Right.
And the other way is so much different than radio is that, like, It's not like if I get a million views and I, there's another guy who has a podcast next door to me who gets a million, million views.
Like it's not like, Hey, man, I want to come promote you or, or talk about your show.
It's not like I have to give up any of my listeners for you to get more listeners.
Right.
Right.
There's podcasting is more gentlemanly than terrestrial cutthroat radio.
Exactly.
So it's like, you know, it's not like, yeah, it's more like gentlemanly.
It's more like, um, the way it used to be back in the old times when you tried to help out your neighbor. rather than to, you know, be at war with your neighbor.
Right.
You want to help your guy if you think he's cool or, you know, because you've established your crowd and they're going to come.
They're not leaving your brand, you know, but if you can help a buddy out who's cool and can bring something to the table, podcasting tends to be more like that than any other forum of media.
You know, like terrestrial radio, it's all about cutthroat, man.
If I'm losing, if I'm, if my listener's not listening to me, X amount of listeners and you're not sharing them.
There's only 17, 18, 19 radio stations and I got to have that guy on my channel or I'm.
Helping Your Neighbor Instead of Fighting00:08:45
Yeah.
You know, whereas podcasting seems to be the buddy system a little bit, a little bit.
You know, now there's people that have huge numbers that aren't going to help the guy that's got, you know, 314 followers, you know, but, but, but you have the standout people like Joe Rogan, who's like the number one in the world who has nobodies on his show.
Right.
Literally nobodies.
Just because he wants to help them and because he thinks that they have some sort of a, and they're interesting.
Right.
I think that's what Joe really cares most about.
You know, I don't think Joe looks at numbers as much as he looks at the message.
You know, what, what, You know, because he'll get into some deep shit and it's really interesting.
And the guy is not really even, you know, promoting his channel or promoting what he's got going.
He's just very interesting.
And I think Joe's probably one of the best at sniffing through what's good and what's not.
Right.
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Back to the show.
So about, I don't know, was it three months ago?
Shane sent me the video, the first video I think you ever published about Hogan being sick or being in the hospital.
I was the first and only guy to go out on a limb.
And say that he was going to die June 18th.
June 18th.
I remember that right to Dan.
He sent it to me the day you posted it.
And I'm like, Bubba is losing his shit.
I'm like, Bubba is just doing anything he can.
Everybody was saying.
Everybody thought I was just trying to get some traction.
I heard it all clout chaser, clickbaiter, irrelevant, you know, desperate, the whole nine yards.
They don't realize that I had some very good insources.
Now, I've befriended Brooke recently, but Brooke wasn't my resource.
I had.
I had people within the hospital.
Do you know when you're on to something?
And a lot of times, then you kind of have the Johnny come lately effect.
So if you're on to something and you're first on a particular topic, then a lot of times that will lead to other people jumping on and giving you intel as well.
Yes.
So I actually even had the valet guy at Morton Plant.
That was calling me and letting me know the comings and goings as to who's going where.
Clearwater?
Yeah.
Wow.
So, I mean, that's where Hogan was.
His last stint was at Morton Plant.
Prior to that, he was at Tampa General.
So, how did this start?
It started with an email to the show on my show.
And it just said, Hey, I work at Tampa General.
Please do not say my name, but Hogan.
Hulk Hogan, your friend, is not doing well.
And that's all it was.
And at that point, the guy, I should have probably said the person.
So I mean, but I mean, at this point, Hogan's dead.
But the guy gave me his information to call him.
So I did my show the next day.
This is like June 16th.
I did my show the next day and I called the dude.
He's like, listen, Hogan is.
On air?
No, no, off air.
Okay.
Completely off air.
Okay.
And I didn't go on air till June 18th.
That was the first day.
And so I.
I call this dude up.
I try to vet him.
You know, where do you work?
What do you do at Tampa General?
You know, like, why would you be privy to this?
I was more, you know, I was more skeptical than anything.
I'm just, I just wasn't there like, I just wasn't there like, you know, just tell me some information for me to go to air with because that's dangerous, right?
Yeah.
I mean, put false info out.
Hogan's, trust me, I know Hogan's litigious and his family's litigious as I'm, you know, going through a federal gag order right now with the deal.
And so I knew I just couldn't come out.
The, the.
The information the guy's giving me is like blowing my mind.
He's like you don't understand.
They're calling family members telling them to get their ass to the hospital because you may not see Hogan again.
I mean, he is on all these, you know all these machines and he's having problems with complications from heart valves and the guy's going.
The guy's all over the place.
So I I sat on it for a day.
This was like on the.
This would be the.
I came out on the 18th so this would have been like Maybe like the 15th or 16th.
And I sat on it on a day.
I sat on it and I tried to get another source to verify and I couldn't.
I couldn't.
And so I start looking at Hogan's friends and what they're saying, and Jimmy Hart's like saying, oh, Hogan's great and this kind of stuff.
I had one of my producers called Hogan's restaurant, Hogan's Hangout, whatever the hell it's called, and asked if he was going to be at that karaoke that Monday night.
And they're like, no, he's not going to be here.
He's out of town or something.
Well, I knew he wasn't out of town.
I knew he was in the hospital.
I did know that.
So I. Just kind of took a leap of faith with what the guy told me.
And I got on the air, and I think the actual verbiage was if you do some sniffing around at a local hospital here, and I tried to use everything in radio that I've been taught for 40 years on how to cover your ass, in my opinion.
And cover your sources.
And cover my sources.
So I said, if you do some sniffing around in a local hospital, it's my opinion.
I don't know it to be true, but it's my opinion.
And I think, and I've been told, and again, I don't know it to be true, that Hogan's in a hospital.
Here locally in Tampa, and he's not doing well.
And I think family sources have been called to come in and say their goodbyes.
So, with that, I got more and more brazen, and I continued to get more and more information from this one particular source.
But then I got another source, and my other source is like, Hey, I heard you saying this about Hogan, and here's what I know because you know I'm close to the source as well.
It just kind of bred itself.
So I got more and more brazen.
So, where I started, I was like, in broadcasting, if you say something wrong, malicious, slanderous, liable about somebody, the first thing that goes down is you get a 770 notice.
And so, like, if I said something about Danny Jones and it was just completely untrue, like, Danny Jones is natural.
Jones is on only Fred Flintstone vitamins and that's it.
Well, that's a blatant lie.
I'm suing.
Exactly.
No, but if I said something like really bad, like, you know, Danny Jones is a kid toucher.
I mean, I'm talking about something really bad.
Like, I went to the island.
Right.
You're hanging out with Epstein.
You know, so, but if I said something completely just 100% false, defamatory, slanderous, liable, then your attorney would be sending me a 7-7 notice, which means what I said was untrue and you're putting me on notice to retract that.
And it's, you know, or I'm going to be, you know, I have one shot.
Cause he's an assist.
It's more than that because it's.
You got to backtrack.
Not only do I have to stop, but I have to retract what I said and correct what I said.
So that's what a 770 notice is.
That's just from being in the business so long.
So I knew at that point, I get on the air and I'm like, listen, Hogan's people out there, if Hogan isn't in a hospital bed and he's doing okay and he's not gravely sick, then send me a 770.
Shut me up.
Make me be quiet.
Because what I'm hearing is he's not doing well at all.
And here's this and this and this and this.
And every day I would say, Send me a 770.
If I'm wrong, well, a lawyer can't send you a 770 if you're not wrong.
If you're not wrong, they can't make you shut up.
They can't say you're being slanderous or liable or anything like that.
They just got to take it.
And they get real mad that they got a leak within their little world.
And so I just kept.
Going on and on.
And then I got intel that they transported him in the middle of the night.
He was at Morton Plant.
From that point, they transferred him in the middle of the night over the weekend.
How long was he at Morton Plant for?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Hospital Assumptions and Night Transport00:02:23
I think about a week.
Okay.
I don't know exactly how long he was at Morton Plant, but I do know when they transported him.
They took him home like on a Friday via ambulance, and he was doing well through the weekend.
Eric Bischoff saw him on Monday, Jimmy Hart saw him on Wednesday, and he died on Thursday.
And, you know, I had reports that he was home resting.
They didn't send any machines home with him.
They just sent a hospital bed home with him so he could be more comfortable.
So at that point, they, I think the hospital assumed one or two things either they assumed.
Either one, he's too far gone and we can't help him.
And I'm only assuming this, I don't know it to be true.
But two, he's getting better and he's going to, he might maybe pull through this because they didn't have any ventilation.
They didn't have a breathing machine.
They didn't have him traked.
You know, they didn't have him on any extravagant machines.
He just had this little, like, he had a respiratory therapist come in once a day and do respiratory exercises with him.
And that's all he had.
And so he was like fully conscious and awake and.
100%.
100%.
You know, eating, you know.
And then Wednesday night, he went to bed.
He was sleeping in a recliner, and he was sleeping in a recliner in the living room.
That's where he was most comfortable.
And, you know, Sky, his wife, found him dead in the morning.
I think there was a respiratory therapist and another male nurse there reporting for their duty that morning.
And I think when they got there at 9 11 or whatever time, they had found Terry dead.
And he was supposedly dead, dead.
Like, in his sleep, it happened.
Like, when they gave him two shots of Narcan in case there was an opiate over it, I thought.
I speculated on the air that it was that he had taken too many pain pills and that he, you know, I mean, we've lost 38 wrestlers in the last, you know, 10 years over people, you know, opioids and alcohol.
So I thought maybe that was, and I was on the air heavy with that.
But then, you know, Brooke came down to Clearwater and met with the medical examiners and later, you know, pretty much was satisfied with their investigation.
Narcan Shots and Opiate Overdose00:02:21
So that's when I kind of laid off.
You know, I thought maybe.
She was satisfied with it?
Brooke was, yeah.
So at that point, I kind of laid off and.
Just let him rest in peace and you know, knowing my documentary is coming out, and you know, and like everybody's like, Oh, you timed your documentary to uh to coincide with Hogan's death.
I've been trying to get this documentary out since the last time I was, I mean, what was that two years ago when I saw you?
Yeah, you were talking about it.
We were talking about it two years ago, and I had the wrong filmmaker at the time.
I had a guy who I had a group of people that were putting it together.
It's not my documentary, it's theirs, I don't have any ownership in it at all.
Um, and so.
I just felt two years ago we weren't, they just didn't have the glue to tell the story.
And we got a local guy who has had some stuff published on Netflix and he named Ian Longin, and he was kind of the difference maker.
He really, really knew the story and he put, he was the glue to kind of put this very convoluted story and very long and kind of hard to understand story together.
And, you know, we premiered last Friday and we're dropping today on.
On Amazon, Google Play, and then of course Apple TV.
It's a great documentary.
It's a long one too, freaking almost three hours.
No, 229.
229.
I wish I watched it, you know, at the premiere, and I think we could have cut out 15 or 20 minutes.
I think we could have, I think we were redundant and maybe repetitive on some things.
But, you know, it's such a long story.
Initially, they wanted us to do, we wanted to do three episodes of like 48 minutes.
And then when we started submitting it to the aggregators, the documentary game is such a dirty game.
It's not just you make a doc and send it, and you have to get it.
You have to send it to copyright and fair use attorneys.
You got to get insurance on it.
Then you have to get an aggregator that's going to publish it to these different platforms.
And so it's a pretty quite a long process.
So when we were giving it to the aggregators, they're like, listen, you're not going to be able to have a trailer for three episodes.
Copyright Lawyers and Insurance Policies00:14:42
The only way you can have a trailer is if you would combine them.
And we're like, It's going to make for a pretty long, long deal.
So that's why it ended up.
I wouldn't even be able to make a trailer for the whole series.
I don't know.
Maybe you have to be a bigger slinger dick, slinging dick than me in order to get a trailer for a three part series, but they wouldn't give us a trailer.
And I'm like, listen, the trailer is everything.
You've got it.
I mean, I determine whether I'm going to watch something based on the trailer.
Yeah.
I mean, right?
That or the thumbnail.
I mean, even when I'm looking at porn, I look at the thumbnail and if it's, you know, That looks good.
If it's granny, no.
And if it's some hot MILF, yes.
You know, I mean, it's thumbnail and trailers was what determined everything.
Yeah, that's true.
So going back to the Hogan things, what was the actual catalyst that sent him in there in the first place?
Well, he had a heart valve replacement and he didn't have problems with that, but he had what they call a neck and cervical.
Operation.
And that requires them to put a plate behind your neck with eight screws that go into this plate that stabilizes the back of your neck.
And he was supposed to be bedridden four to six weeks.
So after you have this cervical neck fusion, you're supposed to be in what they call a vagus brace.
And that's just basically the middle of those.
Those foam rubber kind of gimmicks.
You're supposed to be in one of those for two months and you're supposed to be taking it easy.
And Hogan goes and gets this surgery.
There's eight screws in the back of his neck.
They have bone cement and everything in there.
And it's a very fragile equation.
And what does he do?
He's being pushed by his beer company.
He's being pushed by his new wrestling federation.
And instead of spending four to six weeks bed rest, he spends 46 hours at home.
And is already out in Milwaukee and Green Bay and Buck, Michigan, doing these three and four hour personal appearances for his beer.
And he starts his neck operation, doesn't really have an opportunity to fuse and to heal itself because you're sleeping in hotel bedrooms and you're standing up for Hogan's one big thing is when he would do an autograph session, he would never sit.
He always prided himself on standing because it made him bigger than life.
You know, so it makes you bigger than life rather than just sitting.
So he, you know, that was his gimmick.
And so he's standing for three and four hours at a time.
And he had a, and Terry had a huge head.
Yeah.
I mean, his head probably weighed 40 pounds.
Yeah.
Had a big ass head, big head, big star, yeah.
And so, had he listened to his doctors and not been on the road, you know, 46 hours after a major operation, he probably would have been in better situations.
So, I wonder why he needed that operation in the first place.
It's not like he was very active, you know, and his family.
I've been told by pretty good sources that his family actually argued with him and said, Terry, just live with the pain because they knew.
They knew the complication rate of this particular aggressive procedure.
They knew.
And he had already had a ton of neck surgeries.
Oh, he had a ton of back.
A ton of back.
He never really fed with his neck.
Okay.
So, but his neck.
And they go through the front?
Yeah, they go through the front.
And he had neck surgery.
And he had numbness in his hands and stuff like that.
And he would tell me all the time, he's like, I can't even feel my fingers.
Right.
And so, most of his family, from Nick to Brooke to Skye, they were telling him, Terry, just live.
You've lived.
You know, you're 71 years old.
You've lived with having numbness in your fingers.
You know, don't get this neck surgery.
Don't get it.
Yeah.
It's, it's, we've talked to the doctors.
It's very risky and you're not going to stay, you're not going to set still the way you're supposed to.
So don't do it.
So he instantaneously now gets off the road and he has complications with this, with this procedure because he didn't do what they told him to.
And that was kind of the downward spiral.
And how is that connected with the valve?
Replacement.
I don't know that it was.
Oh, okay.
I don't know that it was.
I they had to go back in and do a revision on the next surgery, and you have to understand now you're under again, you know.
And anytime you go in or under anesthesia, they you know they make you sign those forms that you could die.
I mean, if you just go in for a you know colonoscopy, you know, and if they put you under, they're gonna make you sign a form because you're at risk of dying.
You used to be the guy that had to go in with them during your surgeries.
I actually, when we were really rolling hard, I'm one of the procedures I went into was in Buffalo, Dr. Rapishi did a half knee on him, and Hogan was so worried about because he was such a star, and he was so worried about taking pictures of his dick when he's people taking pictures of his dick that I would scrub in.
And so, you got to understand, you know, in order for a hospital or a doctor to even allow this, is mind boggling because most hospitals and doctors, you're gonna say, Hey, I'm gonna bring my buddy in with me, they're like, No, that's another.
No, you're not, but he was Hulk Hogan.
People made exceptions for him.
So I would scrub in and have to do the five minute nail scan.
Meanwhile, I'm just in the corner making sure they're not taking pictures of his dick.
I'm not touching the body.
I'm not, I'm from here to the door from him, but I'm just making sure that, you know, I did that three different times.
But I don't know that the next surgery necessarily caused his death.
You know, they say he died of a heart attack with the complications of the heart valve.
It also was disclosed that he had leukemia.
Oh, yeah, that was the time Adam left.
You know, which is blood cancer.
And I've talked to Brooke extensively, and that was news to her and news to everybody.
Nobody knew that he was dealing with that.
And people don't even know that he knew it at the time.
I mean, it was certainly obvious that he didn't look well in the last few months.
Yeah, when he did that, Fox and Friends, he looked really gaunt.
Frail.
Yeah, yeah.
And he.
You know, he did.
And now, see, at the RNC, though, he looked pretty good.
He did.
And then from the RNC to where we ended up, he just had a downward spiral.
And I think that that's where, at the RNC, I don't know if he had his neck hardware done at that time or not, but it seems like the neck hardware complication is what spiraled him down to looking like the way he did on Fox and Friends.
And the other thing is, I think they were working him, literally, the expression working him to death.
I think they were working him to death.
I mean, he was, he was, working he was.
Don't you have enough money though?
Like why?
Why you're that you're?
How old was he 80?
You know he's 71 because he listen I hate to talk bad about my former friend, but because he's a he's one of the biggest narcissists that you'll ever meet in your entire life.
He always had to be on the go, he always had to be the center of attention.
Uh, there was his family and other good people telling him, Terry, you got, you've won 60, some million dollars from this sex tape.
Right, you know you?
You got 25 million dollars in properties.
You got every Plymouth and Mopar and collector car, you could ever want.
You got three memorabilia shops.
You got a restaurant and a bar.
You got everything you could ever want.
More money than you could spend.
So much sleep in, go to the gym, jack your dick.
I don't give a right.
But take care of your body.
You don't need to be in Sheboygan, Wisconsin at 4 30 meeting 300 cheeseheads so they'll buy 10 cases of beer.
For real.
Like, stop.
I mean, the beer was already in Publix.
Like, what more do you need to do, bro?
Great.
He had great distribution with his beer.
I've never actually had it.
I would like to try it.
Yeah, I haven't.
I even had it.
I heard it's very, I heard it's kind of a little thicker Miller light, is what I heard, but I heard it was pretty good.
I don't know what this is.
I know that right after he died, there was a run on, you know, people trying to get it.
I don't know if they've restocked.
That's a story in itself.
He originally had a deal with Anheuser Busch, which is owned by what they think InBev now, owned by like a Danish company.
And he had a deal with one of the original Busches.
You know, the Bush family still has a lot to do with it.
And he had a deal to do a beer, a Hogan type beer with one of the Bushes.
And two of the story I've been told, two of the highest ranking people underneath the Bush guy stole Terry away with a better deal, quit Anheuser-Busch, and started the Hogan beer.
Yeah, that's what I was told.
Wow.
And I think if you research it, you'll find that.
Such a crazy world.
And he was just like constantly, you know, since I met him, which would have been, I mean, since I started working with him, which would have been, I don't remember what year that would have been.
It was during the Hostamania stuff when he was doing the hosting company thing.
Right.
Shooting all those commercials.
It was just like.
How did that do?
Did that do anything?
I think it ended up dying.
Right.
Or I don't know why they stopped doing it.
But I think the hosting, the whole web hosting industry consolidated and it just wasn't.
I don't know.
It wasn't financially viable anymore.
So they just kind of.
Right.
That's not a sexy space anyway.
No, yeah.
Hosting.
You know, Hogan needs to be in space.
But we went to a bunch of like a Vegas, even with Flair, I went to a bunch of like, all these like crazy, like little web conventions out in Las Vegas we went to.
And he would sit there and he would sit there all day signing autographs to people.
And like, and, you know, I think that just general industry kind of like.
Well, Hogan needs to be in a public space and hosting.
is not a public space.
You know, I mean, you got Stream guys now and you got some major players, you know, AWS.
No one cares about websites.
Nobody gives a f*** about who's hosting your website.
Exactly.
Nobody gives a f***.
You go ask 90% of the people, GoDaddy.
That's what the fuck they're going to do.
GoDaddy.
They're the Walmart of hosting.
And I don't even know that they host.
They'll just build it for you and get your domain.
But Hogan needs to be in sexy.
Hogan needs to be in a space that a white trash dude from Indiana is going to be in.
Like my shirt says, the finest strain of Indiana white trash.
Beautiful.
But that's his P1, meaning his number one target audience is probably a 55 year old male.
That's so.
If a 55 year old white male likes whatever product you have, then maybe Terry was good for your product.
But other than that, you know, Terry doesn't need to be in the hosting business.
Well, I heard that his biggest regret as far as promoting products go was the grill because George Foreman got his grill.
I was there for that.
Oh, were you?
Oh, yeah.
He was taking his kids to St. Cecilia.
Uh, school, and this guy who brokers um products calls him and says, Listen, I need an answer now.
I got a blender and I got a grill.
Hogan goes, You know, like, what do you mean?
Like, what kind of grill?
It's this grill where it's slanted, and you put your hamburger or your chicken on it, and it slides the grease down into this tray.
Hogan goes, Give me the blender.
I do protein shakes and shit like that.
So the blender, give me the blender.
So they did the Hulk Hogan blender, which was this fucking piece of shit blender that.
Pull it up.
Pull up the Hulk Hogan blender.
And then he, they actually, it was his choice before they went to George Foreman.
George Foreman got the grill by default.
He got the section by default.
Because Hogan picked the fucking blender.
And Hogan told, he's told the story.
I've heard him tell it, yeah.
He's told the story.
If he just would have paid attention, the Thunder Mixer.
Look, that's what the fuck.
He got and and and George, I think George made what 300 million dollars.
I mean, pull up what George Foreman's made on, yeah, yeah, it's something like just more than he ever could have fathomed in his life.
What year was that?
Oh, god, that would have been like 90s, yeah, 96, 97 ish, you know.
But I was so I saw him that day.
This was in the morning.
I saw him that day, and he's like, Hey, man, I got it, I got a new blender coming out.
I go, Really?
He goes, Yes, I'm this dude, you know.
Danny McGillicuddy, who represents these products.
Here we go.
George Sherman Grill was used to cook blah, He didn't invent the grill.
He was famous for it.
He received 40% share of the profits, which at its peak meant he was earning millions of dollars a month, over 200 million in total.
200 million.
So I see Hogan, and he goes, I got a Blizzender coming out.
A Blizzender.
They wanted me to do some stupid grill bullshit.
But I got us a Blizz Ender, so we'll be mixing up our really good.
I'm like, we didn't even know what the grill was yet.
I mean, so we didn't even know if the grill was stupid or not.
We just knew we had a blender coming, you know, and this blender was cheap, bullshit.
It couldn't even get through an ice cube.
You look at it, look at it, look at the three little whippers down there.
Yeah, it was just completely bullshit.
Oh my God, bro.
Look how small it is.
Yeah, it was teeny tiny.
Can't even put two eggs in there.
So I was with him during that deal.
We, and that's that's all you.
Been a rib that we've ribbed him for.
Yeah, I mean, it was bullshit.
Look, dude, it's blown away.
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Yeah.
Look at those three little wires down there.
Hogan got the first one.
They sent him like 10, right?
And he used the first one.
It wouldn't even whip up his fucking protein.
Like, it wouldn't even whip it up, like, efficiently.
Dude, I remember the grill, too.
I had one.
I had one.
Yeah, everybody had one.
I would put everything on the grill.
Every single household had one.
I would put corn beef hash on the fucking grill.
We were putting burgers on it, like, it was a fucking miracle grill.
And not only did we all have one, we've probably had multiple ones.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Because they've morphed in, it's morphed into better things, you know?
Yeah, they had like a two-pointed one.
Yeah, they had like a two-pointed one.
It didn't just target people who were George Foreman friends.
My fucking mom bought one.
George Foreman had nothing to do with the problem.
My mom was a freaking.
My mom had one.
My grandma had one.
She went to college for four years.
Fine art, she was a fine artist, and she would have George Foreman.
She had no clue who George Foreman was.
She had no clue who George Foreman was.
She could keep in her dorm and whip her up a chip, you know, whatever she wanted to do.
Exactly, bro.
It's just like these super celebrities just being, you know, just proselytizing all of these products non stop was just always such a weird thing to me, you know.
Sales, it's just like, and even now, you know, there's a few guys like Logan Paul's one of the guys.
Now it's all meme coin, it's all more.
Bitcoin.
It's all crypto shit.
Crypto scams.
And now you got NFTs.
Logan Paul.
But hasn't the NFT.
Didn't that hit the wall?
NFTs are dead.
Didn't that hit the wall?
But they're still doing coins.
Remember for a while.
And now you got Trump and all his kids doing their own coins.
Remember for a while they were doing those metaverse and you could buy a house in the metaverse?
In the metaverse and a nightclub and all this kind of bullshit.
And it was going to be where people go and live their life digitally.
And I'm like, if my Life is so bad in real life that I gotta go live digitally.
It's time to eat a bullet.
Hold the plug.
I'm telling you that right now.
Listen, I'm a nobody here in Tampa, but motherfucker, I'm the king of MetaWorld.
MetaWorld 10.
I'm the mayor of Mayor.
I'd be like, what the fuck, you loser?
Yeah, but it might be cool, Bubba.
What if you could go in there?
You could be, you know, you could be six foot six, jacked 20 inch dick slinging around.
Thank you.
Jacked up.
I mean, God, since the last time I saw you, I bet you went from curling 50 pounds to 150.
I mean, look at that motherfucker.
Jacked up.
You gotta start shaving your arms.
I've looked the same.
No.
You gotta shave your arms.
What am I gay?
No, striations, motherfucker.
What?
Striations.
What the f***'s a striation?
Striations like, I don't have any.
I'm too fat.
You should have ripples in your muscles.
Oh, no, I'm not.
Look how much of a.
Hold on.
Look at your fing gorilla arm.
It's not a gorilla arm.
It's the same arm it was last time.
It happens to be that you are light haired.
So that does help that you're light haired.
Yeah, stay with the light.
It's such a cleaner look when you don't have all that f***. hair there.
And I'm not even, I'm like three days stubble right now, but like, that's like your wife would appreciate it more.
That's like, yeah, we don't do that anymore, Bubba.
Not that you're fisting her, but I'm just saying, like, I mean, you know, like it's just a better presentation.
No.
Let's keep the hair.
The girl, my wife likes hair.
Before the show started, I gave you a little, little, little, little tidbit.
You need to, you really need to just, listen, what's the worst?
It'll grow back.
Shave your arms one time and see if your girl likes it.
How about your chest?
I have chest hair.
I have chest hair.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't shave?
No.
Hell no.
I like the hair.
I like the way it looks.
How much do you got?
Not enough.
See, you're a little blonde, Twink.
I'm not like super covered in hair.
I'm not like an Italian meatball.
Yeah, but if you would shave your arms, your wife would really like that.
No, I'm not doing that.
Why?
Why?
That's what you're hard headed about.
I don't like the way it feels.
I've shaved them.
When I was in high school, I tried shaving my legs and my arms.
You're swimming.
No, I didn't say your legs.
I mean, gee.
See, you fed it up.
You fed it up.
A good thing up, you went too far.
You would have stuck to your arms, you've been going.
My brother, I don't shave my legs.
I mean, oh, right, right, yeah.
But my brother, when high school was like huge into lifting, still is, and he would always shave his legs and his arms.
And uh, so his arms look good as well.
I tried it once and I hated the way it felt.
It feels so weird.
I can't explain the way it feels, but I'm not, I don't, it's uncomfortable.
Plus, you like, you know, so hard headed.
You got to have a little.
I just wonder you're successful because you don't listen.
I mean, I'm just telling you.
Love it.
The hair is, the women like the hair better.
No, they don't.
Yes, they do.
No, okay, let me ask you a question.
What about your bush?
Any woman who's under.
What about your bush?
My shit's completely down to zero.
Oh, I keep it trimmed.
Trimmed.
No, no, no.
Down to zero.
Right down to zero, like a hardwood floor.
No, no, no, no.
Back in high school, yeah, but not anymore.
No, what do you mean back in high school, but not anymore?
Like that was back in high school, back in like the 2000s, when we were in high school in the 2000s.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean.
So, what would change?
What has changed?
Your wife and I.
I got older.
You think she wants that?
Yeah, she likes the hair.
Have you asked her?
Yeah, she tells me.
Have you guys ever had the.
She tells me.
What did she say?
She says, I don't like it when you shave it down to the skin.
I like a little bit of hair down there.
She likes stubble.
Yeah.
So, when you're blasting her, she gets that razor burn.
No, she doesn't like the razor burn.
That's why she likes a little bit hairy.
Not the stubble.
She likes it longer than stubble.
Like AstroTurf?
Kind of like AstroTurf, yeah.
Get her on the horn.
Long Bermuda grass.
Yeah, she likes me to braid it.
Braid it long.
Bahia.
Bahia.
She likes it like the golf course.
They got to mow it in cross hatches.
Yeah.
Dang, in all the years of podcasts.
Like a nice fairway.
In all the years of podcasts, has a guest ever got you to talk about your pubic hair?
Never.
You're the first.
You're the first, Bubba.
You're one of one.
A rare.
One of one.
It's hot as f in here.
Can we turn the air down?
Yeah, Bubba likes it cold.
Can we take it down?
All you skinny guys in here, I mean, give me a.
I forgot you told me that.
Caffeine, sweating.
I can't wait for Danny to try my content host cocktail.
Because that's, you know.
You got to try it, and then you got to text me and be like, yes or no.
Like, you know, give me a bearing as to how.
Yeah, and then we'll adjust the levels accordingly.
60 milligrams of Adderall.
I don't want to necessarily be talking about this shit on the air.
Oh, okay.
We'll cut it out.
I mean, yeah, fuck.
I want to give everybody.
Everybody, we don't want to get everybody in a secret, Alex.
Okay, all right, we won't tell everybody to be as cool as 15 milligrams of something and then a half of another thing.
Shut up, God, he doesn't listen when he's supposed to, but arm shaving and shit.
Like, well, look at you though, you're Sasquatch too.
We have, he is, he's Fubar, bro.
Tell him a story of what happened there today.
Shane, the other day, Concrete Clem was at a barbecue the other day with his girlfriend, and uh, some dude walked by.
That sounds so white trash.
Concrete Clem was at a barbecue.
With his girlfriend, and we're talking to him with an arm sling right now and an Ocala Speedway racetrack t shirt.
I mean, it doesn't get any fucking larghetto than that.
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't.
So, Concrete Clem is at a barbecue with his girlfriend.
He's at a barbecue on the trade winds in St. Pete Beach with his girlfriend.
Oh, that spiffs it up a little bit.
Yeah, it's a little nice.
Okay, let's wait.
It gets so much better.
Okay.
Okay, so his girlfriend's sister, something, some family member of his girlfriend is having their four year old's birthday party.
Okay.
Simultaneously, they're there.
They're in a family gimmick.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's really good ass on the backside, too, you know?
No, for you can throw that back in the old girl's face.
Listen, I went to a motherfucking four year old's birthday party for you.
How about some head?
All weekend.
And it was their.
A little maybe, too.
And it was their announcement that they're pregnant.
They're having a new baby, right?
So they're announcing.
Him or the.
The other family.
So they're celebrating a four year old and they're announcing they're pregnant.
Yep.
Exactly.
Oh, this is a big deal.
And a random friend of them, this dude who's been like a lifelong friend, Walks by and grabs his girlfriend's ass in front of him.
Grab concrete, concrete cleans?
Yeah.
No, his girlfriend's ass.
No, his girlfriend's ass.
Yes.
Yeah, concrete cleans.
This dude grabbed her ass.
Just a big old handful.
Gave her like a smack, and then there at the top of the water slide, he tried to pull a quick one.
Yeah, sure.
She's on this side.
He's over here.
They're getting ready to go down the slide.
Little divider.
He gives her a boom and jumps down the slide.
That's it?
Just a little boom?
That's, I mean, concrete.
You made it sound like worse than that.
Concrete.
How much worse does it got to get?
I mean, let me show you how bad it can get.
Watch.
Well, nah, I know how bad it can get, but how bad does it get?
Let him grab your ass.
I was thinking he was going like that, and then like that.
I mean, if he just gave him a little.
Maybe he slipped a finger in there or something.
There's no finger slipping, but I mean, You barely grabbed my ass.
I mean, what's the big deal?
It's like, hey, buddy, come on.
Well, look, I confronted him.
I asked him about it.
He instantly swelled up on me, ready to fight.
Would you say, hey, buddy, why'd you grab my girl?
I said, yo, did you touch my girl?
What's going on?
See, it's all in that.
See, you automatically started with a badass.
Dropped an F bomb.
That shows you.
How old are you, Concrete Clem?
37.
See, you're a young gun.
You got way too much testosterone.
I mean, almost as much as Danny.
He's on twice the amount that I'm on.
Don't look it.
You might want to change brands and get on the dick.
Get on the Danny Jones.
He's behind it behind the Crunch Fitness.
I might need the Bubba cocktail.
You know where I get my test?
Publix.
What do you mean?
Publix Pharmacy.
Publix.
So I don't need tests over the counter?
My doctor.
You get a prescription.
You get a prescription.
That costs a lot of money.
No, it doesn't.
It's a $38 copay, concretely.
Danny pays like three grand a month or some shit.
He's awesome.
TRT, special $5 million master.
You know, but so anyway, he grabbed.
So you go, why didn't you do this approach?
Hey, buddy.
Did you grab my girl's ass?
Yeah.
Instead of saying, hey, no, I didn't call him a head.
I said, hey, yo, he was walking away.
I said, did you touch my girl?
And I wasn't happy about it.
He was eight mules deep.
He instantly turns around.
How many?
Eight, about eight.
Okay.
He turns around.
He gets ready to fight.
He's ready to fight.
Fuck you.
I like that guy's approach.
Grabs ass and then wants to fight about it.
Yeah, sure.
So what happened?
Looks like you got the arm sling, and how's he rolling today?
No, this is before the sling.
He already had two muffed up shoulders.
I got a bad shoulder.
I go to He swells up on me.
He's a little bigger than me, too.
So I can't let him hem me up.
I got injuries.
I can't really fight.
I got bad shoulders.
And you got your girl looking at you.
Yeah, so I can't get my ass beat.
His shoulders have been known to pop out.
Right.
Yeah, my shoulders popped out a lot.
Throwing that concrete's tough.
So he comes charging at me, and I go to throw a punch, and my shoulder pops out.
So I grab my shoulder.
Holy paper tiger.
Once he notices I'm injured, he starts charging me.
Good.
So I give him a kick.
Roundhouse.
All I left is a kick.
I got to keep him away from me because if he grabs me up, I'm fed.
So, I give him a couple of kicks.
He's still cops.
I give him a couple of kicks.
One to the head.
One to the head.
Up to the head.
Two to the body.
I'm tall, man.
I got a lot of legs.
And get them fing eggs.
I'm a priest.
And kung fu fighting.
So, once he realizes I'm not letting him get close enough to get me a kind of Ghost of Mary's, fing you and your pink bathing suit shorts and fing you and this and that.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Did you have pink?
Yeah, I had pink bathing suit on, man.
You're overpaying for your test and you're wearing fing shorts.
I mean, Concrete Clem, I just when I thought I could maybe save you.
I'm out here pouring yards.
I don't got the podcast lifestyle, man.
I mean, you should.
You know what I mean?
You should be Danny's assistant.
I mean, you should be.
Danny calls me, pick me up two white rabbits from the gas station.
Bubba's on the way.
I always say those are $40 a piece, motherfucker.
Yeah, he said, get me a case.
I said, I can only afford two.
Fuck you.
Well, Concrete Clem, you need to infuse yourself into Danny Jones' world, is what you need.
You're tired of all the concrete.
He's pouring me concrete countertops for the new warehouse.
My guys are building sinks and shit right now.
I love that.
Oh, yeah.
It's badass.
I love that.
Well, let's get you something.
Nah, I ain't in the mood for anything.
You're slinging, buddy.
You can't even buy the right test, motherfucker.
Come on.
Can you throw a guy a bone over here?
So hold on.
So now we've got two strong shoulders.
The guy doesn't whip your ass, but he grabs your girl's ass, tells you about it, gives you a couple let it learn yous, and then takes you out on your shorts.
Yeah, exactly.
And then is that where it ended?
No, that's not where it ended.
His kid's there too.
His kid sees me give him a couple kicks.
His kid gets frantic, says, I'm calling the cops.
He runs back to the family.
They're at the cabana at the pool.
We're on the beach right here.
Nobody's even there seeing it go down.
Right.
So I'm like, you know what?
He's leaving.
He's going back.
I'm like, I'm out of here.
I'm going to just go get my car keys.
I'm getting the out of here.
Because you're scared.
You're scared.
I got nobody with me, man.
And you're scared because the cops are coming.
Cops are coming.
You don't know how it's going to play out.
I'm the bad guy right now.
So I'm out.
And you got eight, whatever's in you.
Yeah, I got drinks.
Moscow meals.
What about old girls?
Old girls blacked out.
Drunk.
Blacked out.
Did she even know her ass was grabbed?
She doesn't understand even what's going on.
What's happening?
What's happening?
Which is even worse why you shouldn't have got somebody to back up for me.
So anyway, I'm like, I'm going to leave everybody.
The family, everybody.
I'm out of here.
I go to the room to get my car keys.
They're not there.
I realize they're at the cabana where everybody's at.
And you're probably borderline frantic at this point.
I'm frantic.
I'm sweating bullets.
I'm fucking sobered up now.
You know why?
He's got more witnesses than you.
I'm a kid.
I'm in a bad shot.
So I realize my keys are at the cabana where they're all at.
So I'm like, this is going to be a tough one.
Can I sneak my keys out of there in front of everybody and get the fuck out of here?
So I put a hoodie on.
I change my clothes.
I go down.
Oh, you're the fucking Unabomber now?
I'm looking.
I see him over there huddled up by the cabana.
Oh, they're getting their story together.
They're over there fucking.
He's over there telling his story.
He's holding court.
He's holding court.
This is how it's all going to go down.
This is how everything happened.
This guy's drunk.
He's a asshole.
I got no backup.
I got no backup.
With the tweaked shoulder that just popped out.
So I go over there.
Wearing fag shorts.
I sneak the bag.
I put it over my shoulder.
I get out.
I got my hoodie on.
I walk all the way from the pool, which is on the beach side.
How about old girl?
Where's old girl?
I don't know where she's at right now.
You don't give a fuck.
No, I'm out of here.
You're leaving her too?
Everybody.
Okay.
Gone.
She's no help to me right now.
Right.
You got to stay out of jail.
She's actually a liability to me.
Right, exactly.
So, I gotta get the hell out of there.
So, I go sneak the bag, throw it on my shoulder.
I walk out, I get past the pool through the lobby to the parking lot.
Out of nowhere, I just get meleeed in the back of the head.
Boom!
All my shit goes spilling everywhere.
My phone, I get like knocked out.
I'm concussed.
I get up.
The family's in my face, grabbing me by the shoulders.
Why would you do this?
Fuck you.
You're this, you're that.
He's trying to fucking fight me still.
The brother in law is ready to fight me.
The mother in law is ready to fight me.
The sister.
I leave my phone.
I leave everything.
I got my keys in my hand.
I run.
No shirt on, nothing.
No shoes, no shirt.
This is straight Kenneth City shit.
I'm just telling you that right now.
I run to the car, get in the car, I leave.
But they got your phone.
They got everything.
Yeah.
Did you get arrested, though?
No.
No, I don't know.
He's got.
Are you still with your girl?
No, we're not talking right now.
Really?
You want me to call her up?
No.
No, no, no.
I guess you're going to get better.
What's her first name?
Alicia.
Be like, listen, Alicia, Concrete Clem was just, you know, he grabbed your ass, was defending your honor.
Yeah.
Things went south on him.
So that night, I want to call her right now.
Listen, we're going to do a live call.
I mean, she'll be sucking your dick by seven o'clock tonight, bro.
So they gaslight me all night.
I was never even on the slide.
Nobody was on the slide.
You're fucking crazy.
What are you doing?
You're drunk.
The family's gaslighting them.
And the family.
Oh, so now the family's hooked up with your girl.
That's her family.
Yeah.
And they got an alliance.
It's called, you know, friends and families against Concrete Clem.
Yeah.
You're fucked.
You got like.
Fucked.
One verse 60.
Yeah.
Everybody.
So now it looks like things are still fucked.
Mm hmm.
More of the story is.
So the next day, she wakes up and comes to.
She starts remembering everything.
Yeah, it did happen.
Shane's right.
This guy has notoriously been known for this.
He's done shit like this before.
He's had problems.
He's fucked with other people's girl.
His wife and kid are there also, which is crazy.
They've gotten in fights.
Have you ever thought of it?
Your wife has a pretty nice ass and the guy just felt compelled to grab it?
Sure, she does, man.
But I can't just let it fucking slide with every girl.
Every guy out there, Bubba Clem's grabbing my girl's ass on the water side.
No, you can't.
On the other side, they're fucking my wife.
Usually, I mean, I just can't let that slide.
I'm usually on the other side of it because yeah, the fuck, yeah, I don't got my money, man.
I could, we're having this podcast based on my wife getting my money.
I'm just a loser, let's guys grab our ass and don't say nothing about it.
I gotta say something as a man, I got you, I got you.
That's fucking bull.
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I understand, but look at you though.
I mean, he's right now, he's got to get his shoulders fixed.
We need to find him a good surgeon.
He needs, I mean, I don't think there's any way he's gonna fix it with physical therapy.
I've been told that shoulder surgery, if.
Unless you, if you can still take your arm and walk it up, then you need it.
Other than that, live with it because it is the most.
Yesterday, I was in the car and I reached with this arm to close the passenger window and it popped out.
Can you take a gallon of milk and hold it like that?
Not right now, not with this arm.
No.
I'm in excruciating pain.
At least if I fought you, I'm going right for that fucking shoulder.
Well, that's why I'm throwing kicks.
Fuck your kicks, bitch.
My fatness can absorb your kicks.
But one of my little T Rex fucking headers.
That fucking teeth ain't absorbing this size 13 shoe, I'll tell you that.
If I came right there, just.
No, you'll never get that close with those chicken arms, man.
Never are you getting that close to me.
They call her Bubba.
They call her T Rex.
They're T Rex.
You'll never get that close.
Because fatness can absorb that 13 and I'm going to get up on that.
If you got weight over my weight, I can't let you get close enough to me then.
Yeah, because I get.
Fuck you, wrap me up, I'm done.
Well, here, if I put my knee on my knee, I'm going to fucking gumby you and you wrap me up.
You're right.
I'm over.
So you can't, I can't let you touch.
You got to stay, you got to stay nimble, crack nimble.
Yeah, I'm fast and you got to stay wet.
I don't care how fast you are.
Yeah, I'm faster than you.
I know that.
Well, it doesn't take much to be faster than me.
My shoulders are fucked too.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, my shit's fucked.
I'm bad.
Look at the steroid boy over there.
He's fucking jacked.
No problems.
No, no problems yet.
My joints are good.
I can't be.
Are you even 30 yet?
I mean, how old are you?
38.
I just turned 38.
Are you serious?
I'm getting old.
Yeah, but you're killing it.
Did you ever think that some stupid fuck that was painting lines, you know, for a living, uh, listening to me on the radio?
I was hanging out with crackhead painters at 6 a.m. in the back of a van with a bunch of.
And painters are straight crackheads.
Oh, straight crackheads.
Straight crackheads.
Yep.
Yep.
They only paint enough to make enough money for crack, and then they'll take a couple days off, and then they'll come back and paint again for crack.
Exactly.
I know.
Yep.
I was, I was fucking, I was slepping paint buckets to the up 10 stories, painting highest in Sarasota.
You're going to get the young boy.
Hey, young boy, go get that five fucking gallon.
Listening to Bubba every morning.
I would look forward to sitting there half asleep, half asleep.
Conscious listening about all the time.
That was the only thing that gave me life.
Just dying for a Ned bit to come in.
Just, yeah.
Just fucking look at you.
I'm so proud of you.
Look what you've become.
It's pretty wild.
I mean, just the growth that you've had since I've been here last.
Yeah, it's amazing.
I mean, you've tripled what you've had, I think.
That's crazy.
I don't know why.
I don't know.
I know because you're not that fucking good.
I'm not good.
You suck.
I do suck.
I look at something like, what the fuck's he doing so bad?
It's because I bring people like you in.
Well, it's all about the guests.
Yeah, I mean, okay, I guess.
We got Baba and Matt.
Cox, we're doing good, yeah.
Bubba and Matt Cox, Morgan Fraud.
What's wrong with Matt?
Why don't you like Matt?
Oh, I forgot, he pissed off your buddy.
Well, he he pissed off the third, the here's the thing, I would boob job guy.
I love I'd love to do stuff with him.
He's brilliant.
He's a listen.
I just like you're a good host and I know how good you are.
I look at your shit and Matt's brilliant.
He's got a great look.
He's got a great story.
He's a good communicator, but Matt doesn't have a fucking filter.
And and so there's just what do you mean?
Well, so I had him on the show and I think we were jiving pretty good.
Um, I think maybe I was hogging up, maybe I I might have been stepping over him a little bit.
I might have been, but but I had Diaco's in there, dr Diaco and um, or it actually had Jay Diaco in there and I Matt just always has to get the last word in.
Like Matt can never, I can be the brunt of a joke, I can, you can be the brunt of a joke.
We with you about your arm hair and like a concrete Clem can be the brunt of the joke.
You got to be self-deprecating.
Unless you're grabbing this chick's ass right, right And in the right circumstances, you might let a guy grab a girl's ass.
You know, if it was you, Bubba, it would have been a different story.
But let me ask you a question.
If the dude would have said, if you rolled up on him and he said, and the dude went, you know what, dude, I did.
And I don't even know.
I mean, I've been drinking and I'm sorry.
I didn't mean anything to that guy.
Exactly.
I laid him aside.
No, no, no.
For real.
Like if a guy was, yeah, you know, I mean, you're not going to.
Look, I'm not there to blow the whole family event up.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
So if the guy said, hey, dude, you know what?
I'm drunk and I fucked up.
I'm drunk and I think I.
He could have said that.
I was hoping it went that way.
When I was.
Going to walk to him to ask him in my head, I'm hoping this is a misunderstanding.
Hope it wasn't that.
I'm sorry, whatever.
But as soon as I asked him, he turned around and he squared up on me and said, What the fuck are you going to do?
That's the point.
It comes with age and wisdom.
So that's how I know what I saw.
So if I grabbed your girl's ass, I would have said, You know what, bro?
I've been having way too much to drink.
Yeah, we're all drunk.
Let me buy you a shot.
I'm fine.
I'm fine as fuck.
I'm taking testosterone.
I got a hard dick.
I saw that.
Me too, bro.
I saw that ass.
Me too.
And I fucking, and I did.
You know what?
You said, You know what?
Your girl has nice titties.
Let me get a Feel over there.
We'll call you.
Yeah, your girl's got nice titties and your girl got a nice titty.
Maybe we can get them to scissor and we can watch in the corner.
I don't fucking know.
It could have went different.
It could have said, yeah.
And you know, I'm like, you know what, brother?
I got an ass kicking coming.
If you want to lay one in on me, man, go ahead.
You would have said, nah, fuck, I got you, brother.
But you know, the guy determined what the fuck happened.
Well, with Matt, Matt is so, I don't want to say so much of a con, but he's led such a con like life and that he doesn't know when to.
Be cooth or have any cooth.
And so, him and Diaco got into a little bit of an argument or a disagreement, or maybe it was about the subject matter we were talking about.
I don't know.
It wasn't anything that I thought was that I needed to step in on.
They were, you know, when you got two, like me and Concrete Clem going out, if we were really mad at each other, you would step in and say, Hey, you two settle down.
You know what I'm saying?
It wasn't like that at all.
I thought it was just.
He was asking him about his case, right?
Something about his case.
Something like that.
Well, Matt had had a girl.
That he knew that supposedly got a boob job from Dr. Diaco.
That I don't think, I think there were complications involved in it.
And I think the woman maybe sued Dan, you know, for replacement boobs or something like that.
And it was something like that.
But to a doctor, you just don't say that.
Oh, he said that on the air?
Yes.
Oh, God.
Oh, fucking man.
Yeah.
So on the air.
So, like, Dan, Dr. Diaco, who's a doctor and a lawyer, You know, that's a pretty big swinging dick in life.
He's got.
It's a hell of a combo.
You're a doctor and a lawyer.
I mean, you're, you know, you're covering.
So you're kind of a sling and dick, and you're not going to have some fucking con say that to you on the air, disclosing a mess up that you made.
And it just was like, pew, pew, pew.
And out of loyalty to the Diaco's who are on my air.
He wasn't having it.
I would love to have Matt back.
I think he's got a fascinating story.
I think he's a great interviewer and some of his guests.
His podcast is blowing up.
Oh, as it should.
He's good.
You know, like, remember earlier I talked about how the shit's going to fall away and the good stuff's going to stick?
Yeah.
Matt's a prime example of, Matt's a prime example that, you know, started with zero followers and now has what, 250,000?
He has almost 800,000.
Yeah.
On YouTube.
Yeah.
So God bless him.
And I could tell that the guy had the it factor when I had him on this show.
He just, he tells fascinating stories.
Great storyteller.
He gets, oh, he's a great storyteller.
He has a fascinating story in himself.
Good looking guy.
Talented, great painter.
I loved the dude.
Jack to the gills.
Jack to the fucking gills.
Let's talk about that.
Triple whatever you are.
I guarantee you that motherfucker shaves his arms.
I promise you he does.
Of course, first of all.
He's also a very talented painter.
I mean, he's a.
I wish I wouldn't have had that conflict with him because I'd love to do business with him or, you know, have him back on or him have me back on or something like that.
Maybe you can help me bridge that gap because it wasn't between me and.
Matt would do it again.
Oh, yeah.
It wasn't between me and Matt.
It was between.
You know, my guy and Matt.
I think Matt thinks that you won't talk to him anymore because you don't want to piss off your friend.
Oh, no, that's not the case.
Oh, okay.
I mean, I wouldn't have Matt on my show with them in there.
Right, right.
But I would have, they're only in there twice a week.
I would have Matt and vice versa.
And listen, I admire his work.
I mean, I could tell you three or four guests that he's had.
He had a guy that was making counterfeit money out of Bibles.
Was that you?
Yeah, that was me.
That was you.
He had him on first, but he came on my show after he went on.
Right, you know, and so Matt has some great guys.
And the motherfucker has the it factor.
He's a workhorse too.
He records like five to six podcasts a week, every fucking day, back to back.
Sometimes he does two or three a day.
I'm like, Matt, how do you do it?
I'm like, because when I have people on, I usually like take some time, like research them, watch their documentaries, read parts of their, I can't read a whole book every fucking week, but like I'll skim the book, read a lot of the book, watch other podcasts they've done.
So I'm like somewhat coherent in what they're talking about.
Cause I don't just cover true crime, I cover a wide variety of topics.
Matt goes, Bro, he's like, I don't do anything.
He's like, I basically read like a paragraph of what their story is and then I go in and do it.
And I do like two a day, six days a week.
And guess what?
He does it well.
He does do it well.
I mean, he does it well.
That's a talent, man.
That's something that.
He's a very talented dude.
I mean, just how he got himself involved in being in trouble was brilliant.
Fucking brilliant.
And cool in the pocket.
You know, some of the stories when he's in the bank and he's cool as a fucking cucumber and he knows that it might not go through and that the fucking cops might become.
Like, I would be a fucking nervous rat.
Not Matt.
Matt's, you know, and I got a lot of, I mean, I got a lot of respect for his ability.
He's got a, you know, he's the prime example of what I said.
The shit will fall away and the good stuff will come through.
And I think that that's happening more and more with podcasting.
I used to see people shutting their shit down because they suck.
Are you having guests in on your show?
Your show is daily, right?
Yeah, daily.
Yeah.
You don't do guests?
I'd love to, but doing six to 10, you know, I do six to 10, it's so hard to get a guest.
Why can't you change the time?
Well, because I'm still on five terrestrial radio stations.
You know, I'm still on five terrestrial radio stations.
But, you know, realistically, digital pays the bills.
Even in my world, digital pays the bills.
And so I'm getting ready to, if this documentary doesn't somewhat reinvent me terrestrially, where I would get some large, large affiliates that would want to have me on as their morning guy, I'll probably change the time and go like 11 to 2 digitally and just stay all digital.
Do you like having guests or do you like just talking and just going?
Well, I love having guests because your ability is just to like, Go crazy and freaking let go.
I don't need a guest.
You don't need a guest.
I don't need a guest by yourself.
But I can, I can, you know, I can, I've interviewed Joe Rogan.
I've interviewed, yeah, I mean, I've interviewed everybody.
So I pride myself on being a really good interviewer.
I just need to, you know, we're, I was at my lowest point in 18, so I didn't have an opportunity to have a big staff.
And I, I quite frankly need to get back into the guest booking arena.
It's just hard.
I'm not, I'm not part, I'm, I was, I was late to the podcasting game.
I was late to the YouTube game, you know, so, you know, my numbers aren't nearly as impressive as what they should be to probably book big guests, but I do have, you know, the name value, the, you know, time served, so to speak.
And, you know, still have probably within the shock jock world, probably one of the premier radio people that are still around, you know.
How do you, I was asking Rogan about this when I was talking to him, because I, when I went and met with him in Austin the night before, he did a comedy show.
Like, At like seven or eight o'clock at night, or something like that, and he was like on stage.
You could tell this was like he was working out material that he obviously had been working out for a while that he hasn't come out public with yet.
It's like because when you go to his club, you have to lock your phone in a little case, so you can't record it because they're just trying to like figure out what works, what doesn't work.
And he was also just like riffing.
He like he finished his set and he goes, I got like 30 more minutes to go, so if you guys just want to ask me questions, QA, he could all do QA with the crowd.
He did that for like an hour, yeah.
And people were asking him questions about like relevant current event topics, and he would come out like.
High octane.
He would have fucking funny opinions on everything that had just happened in the news that week or that day.
See, that's kind of what we do.
And it was like, I don't fucking like, I wasn't even aware of some of the stuff that he was talking about, but he was like super quick, super funny, and like roasting people while he was doing it.
It was just like another level.
I've never seen that on any of his podcasts.
He was like, he shifted like three gears above how he is on this podcast during that comedy.
And I was like, dude, I was like, how do you live?
And that's an art form in itself.
It is.
Being able to be on your toes, talk about current events, have an opinion about it.
Make it funny.
Right.
And all while potentially turning it around on the person that asked the question.
Right.
So, you know.
And that's what you did.
That's what you do.
It's what I do.
Yeah.
That's what I do.
So I would love to have guests, but a lot of guests are afraid of me because of my reputation.
You know, so, but yeah, I need to start, I need to start having guests.
And if I, if I switch my time, which looks like I'm probably going to do maybe mid, probably first quarter of next year, do more, do more of like a 11 to 2.
Digital kind of deal, I think I'd be more guest friendly than 7 a.m.
So you wake up at like 4 a.m.
You read the news.
And then how does that work?
How's that process work?
I wake up at 3 40, eat breakfast, take a shower, leave the house at 4 15, get to the studios at 4 45.
And then I have two of my guys, Lummi and Seth, my co hosts, that the night before will go through.
All the stories, stories that I like, you know, like, and have.
So, in my email, I'll have 20 stories and I'll go through those and pick sometimes all 20 of them, sometimes, you know, 13 of them.
And we talk about that, that in conjunction with just, you know, stuff that happens in our personal life.
Like with Concrete Clem, if he was in there, we would have told the, you know, him and his pink short story, you know.
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Yeah.
So, but I need to do more guests.
I mean, I had Mark Cuban on not too long ago and he sent me a note that says, you know, God dang, you're a good interviewer.
You know, so I need to do that more.
I really do.
I probably need to take a page from how do you book your guests?
We get usually they're just, well, you're now at a point where people are begging, sucking your dick to come on your show.
We get a lot of requests to come on the show.
People that it's mainly people that want to promote their books, like authors or things like that.
But like also, one of the biggest ways we get guests is from guests just recommending their friends.
Right.
Like, oh, I know a guy who would be great who wants to do the show.
Right.
Kind of like you and Matt Cox.
Like, like, like, you know, when he had that dollar, that, uh, counterfeit guy yeah, he's like.
Hey Danny, I got this counterfeit guy.
He's a good dude, you know.
So that's the difference between podcasting and regular radio.
The regular radio guy won't give you that up, the podcasting guy will.
Yeah, you know.
So that's kind of the difference.
The debates are fun too, like having people in, because I have a lot of people in here who have like pretty controversial opinions on things, like on crazy topics, and then like getting other people in there in the podcast to like debate them or like go back and forth.
Like that can be really fun.
I'm a good friend, i'm good friends with Alex Stein and he does that a lot.
Alex Stein uh, He, I don't know if you've heard of him or not.
I've heard of him.
He, uh, he's a big debate kind of guy, you know.
I want to get a debating.
I want to get a Peter Thiel in here, talk about the Antichrist.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he's the one that financed Hogan's, I know, uh, um, illegal gay Christian billionaire.
Yeah, I mean, that's a combination.
I don't know if he would come.
I mean, he's pretty, pretty.
I don't know.
I have a friend who works for him.
Oh, well, see, there's your end.
Yeah, there's your end.
It's all about ends, you know, you know.
What do you think about him?
Uh, going on this uh tour to promote uh the antichrist in Silicon Valley, he's doing a four part uh lecture that's sold out all about the antichrist.
Have you seen these clips?
No, oh my, I said I saw you the one of Tim Dillon talking about it on Brogan.
Oh, yeah, I did get that.
I did get that.
I watched that.
Yeah, yeah, this guy who's sending drones all over the world to all these war zones to kill all these people, simultaneously put uh putting together this AI that he's selling to the CIA to surveil us and our neighbors, society, and uh.
And his pet project seems to be a keen interest in Satan.
And this is Peter Thale.
Peter Thale, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's like, he's behind this big.
I mean, you know all about Peter Thiel.
Most people know his history.
He's like the biggest investor.
He was one of the early investors in Facebook.
He owns PayPal as well, Palantir.
And his number one goal was to bury Gawker because Nick Ditton was the one that outed him as being gay.
So that was his big hard on with Gawker.
So when Hogan started to sue Gawker, Hogan didn't have the resources locally to step up to the big boy league.
And Gawker did.
At one point, Gawker had way better representation than Hogan did.
And once Peter Teal, whatever the fuck, once he found out that Hogan had an ongoing legal battle with Gawker, he called up his lawyer, Charles Harder.
Out of Beverly Hills and said, I don't care what it takes.
I will pay for every fucking dollar of that litigation.
And it changed everything.
Hogan was able to do research.
He was able to do mock trials.
He was able to, oh, yeah, it changed.
I mean, rumor has it that his legal bill was upwards of $8 million.
And at that point, they had determined, they'd mock tried it.
They had all the research that they needed.
And they'd already deposed me and they knew what my testimony was going to be.
And that's one of the reasons why I think, well, Hogan prevailed because Gawker invaded his privacy.
Let's be honest.
I mean, they had no business on publishing that tape.
You know, they got they obtained it illegally, they knew it was stolen, they didn't have consensual forms from Heather or him, so they should have never published it.
It wasn't a newsworthy event.
Hogan, my wife is not a newsworthy event if it's not on the beach, but it's in my house with closed curtains.
So, right, why Gawker even published that, you know, is beyond me.
Yeah, that was a that was a crazy thing.
And uh, and the consents, the general consensus, like for people that aren't paying attention, was that you released it as a publicity stuff to make money on it.
Everybody thinks that.
I did it all.
I planned it.
I taped it.
I took that footage to my work.
I then strategized with whomever to try to broker it.
I tried to extort Hogan.
I then, when none of that worked, leaked it to Gawker so that I could get myself fired.
I mean, it doesn't even make sense.
You know, I got fired.
Was that the peak of your career right there?
Like at that point?
2012, yeah.
Well, no, I just left Sirius because they had low-dogged me.
Right on the, on the money.
But I was still on COX ON THE BONE and had, you know 14, 14 affiliates, you know, probably doing two and a half million a year.
You know something like that.
So you know, we were, we were doing, we were doing well and so, and how much would have this tape have met uh, banked you if, if you would have been behind it to promote it, to sell it?
Well, I would have.
Now, there's no value in it at all, there's no there's, there's no.
That's what people don't realize is the dude who tried extorting him wanted like 300 grand, right?
Well, the guy who extorted him, Matt Lloyd Spice Boy, Um, wanted three hundred thousand dollars because he'd already shopped it to Hollywood with Digital Underground and Wicked.
And they said, Well, you know, yeah, we'll be interested, we'd be very interested in that.
But do you have 2257 consent forms on the people that appear on camera?
And he's like, Well, no, I'm like, Well, that's not worth nothing, it's not worth nothing.
So, Spice Boy Matt Lloyd switched gears and said, Okay, I can't sell it in the marketplace, but I can extort Hogan with it because it's you know, why would you know, Hogan will pay any.
He wanted a million dollars and they settled for $300,000 at the Sam Pearl when they met at the Sam Pearl.
And so, then the reason why Hogan was willing to pay $300,000 for us because he didn't, it was very damning.
You know, nobody wants that out.
Nobody wants, you know, he was caught saying the N word.
Right, right.
And why would he want that out?
He was kicked out of the WWE for that.
Why would he want, why would I want that?
I mean, if you really take a look at it and be like, oh, Bubba did it all, why would I want any of all that?
Why would I want a tape?
Burn the bridge with you and your best friend?
Hogan fucking my wife and, and, and, and, I'm going to lose my job.
I'm going to look like a fucking cock-holed asshole.
Like, I mean, there's no upside for me.
I'm making a couple million dollars in radio.
Why do I want to?
So Cox comes to me.
I'm still doing mornings.
And Cox comes to me and says, You got to make this go away.
Like, you got to make this go away.
So Hogan at that time was suing me too because he didn't know that I wasn't part of the deal.
So he settles with me.
I have to write him a check for $5,000 to get out of the lawsuit.
I write him a check for $5,000 and give him all the rights to the tape.
You have here, you own this tape.
These tapes that are out there floating around that's causing all this havoc, they're yours.
I don't want them.
Now, if I'm the guy that's trying to extort him or sell it or broker it, why would I pay the guy $5,000 and sign over the rights to the tape?
The only way he could sue Gawker is if he owned those tapes.
So when they go to the San Pearl Hotel, the FBI arrests the person that Spice Boy sent to represent them and arrests Keith Davidson, the guy who brokered the tape.
Hogan is the one that alerted the FBI that he was being extorted.
And they arrest these people.
And then once it goes through the state attorney or the U.S. attorney, they figure out, they find out that Bubba and Hogan are your victims.
And they're like, listen, you got that's a pro wrestler and a shock job.
This could be a fucking clown show.
And the feds only go to trial when they know they're going to win.
And they decided to no file.
So, nobody was held accountable for the leak.
Nobody was held accountable.
So, once Spice Boy got arrested but then didn't get prosecuted, the tape is dead.
There's no value to that tape.
There's nothing unless you can get it published somewhere.
So, Spice Boy gives it to Mike Kalta and Mike Kalta leaks it to AJ Delirio of Gawker.
And I get fired.
And Mike Kalta, of all people, because Cox doesn't know.
Who leaked it?
They promote my Calta to do my job, who's still there today doing my job.
The mornings, yeah.
Oh, he does mornings now?
Does the morning show?
Did my mom?
Bubba used to have the morning show.
The morning show that you used to listen to now is him.
Is him, has been for well over a decade.
Wow.
I've never listened to him once.
And so here's the deal Hogan is brilliant, he was brilliant.
He's like, once he got Peter Thiel involved, they're like, we can take two bites of this apple, we can take a bite of the apple for the people that published it.
Which is Gawker, and they're worth, at that time, they're worth $135 million.
And then when that lawsuit goes down, we don't know what the outcomes that's going to be yet, but however that fares, then we're going to take a buy debt who distributed it, who leaked it.
And that was Cox Media.
And I've been told that they wrote a $52 million check to Hogan.
And so Hogan sued Gawker.
And they navigated through that lawsuit and they knew that where that ended up.
And that ended up with a $141 million verdict that Gawker only could pay $35 million of because they filed bankruptcy and Hogan was their largest creditor.
But they had already tried this case and they knew what a jury would do.
So they start to depose Mike Calta and Cox settles the next day.
For 52 million, because they didn't want any of that information.
Because at one time, that sex tape was hosted on Cox management servers.
And they, I mean, they were afraid Hogan was suing them for 110 million, and they were afraid that they were going to lose.
Gawker lost.
Why wouldn't they?
Right.
The details of the dissemination and the leakage didn't change from the Gawker deal.
They'd already tried it once and won.
The second trial was going to go the same way.
Right.
Fired me, put Calta in there, didn't know Calta was part of this until they start doing investigation and phone records and things like that.
And he's still there to this day.
But there's a bigger piece in my documentary, Video Killed the Radio Star, that a lot of people don't know about.
And that's who they were after as well, which I'm sure that you know now.
They wanted Trump.
Yeah, this is the Keith Davidson connection.
This is the Keith Davidson tie in.
So Keith brokered the tape.
And also brokered all the negotiations between Karen McDougall and Stormy Daniels with Michael Cohen, which was Trump's personal fixerslash attorney.
And he was negotiating exclusively with Keith Davidson, who was the broker of the Hogan tape.
And they went to Keith Davidson and said, if you don't give us all correspondence that you've had with Michael Cohen, we still have four years of statute of limitations left.
In the Tampa sex tape that we didn't prosecute, we're gonna go for you on that deal.
So he laid down what was government's witness and gave him all the correspondence that he had with Michael Cohen.
And they got Michael Cohen to testify against the president.
Wow, all from my little old sex tape that I that at the end of the day call me.
Ruined Lives and Sex Tape Deals00:16:09
I mean, I'm not quite as jealous I am, you know, like that you are of your girl.
I just let my girl Hogan, that's it.
He was living with me, he was down on his luck.
Yeah, how long he was in the the the.
Live with me for three or four months.
Living at your house because that was the middle of his divorce.
The middle of his divorce.
And I'm like, listen, I'm not a jealous motherfucker.
We were kind of in the lifestyle a little bit.
And so I was just like, fuck, won't you fuck Hogan?
Cheer him up a little bit.
My home surveillance caught it.
I have some skin in this game, like I've said before.
You had the camera pointed at the bed, though.
Well, no, no.
That's what some of the people say.
Well, that was a peripheral view of my whole bedroom.
Oh, was it?
Oh, I mean, yeah, it was.
And let me just say, Clarify why that you were in the other room watching the feed, Bubba.
Don't get me wrong, don't try to swindle me, Bubba.
Can I, with your hairy arms and all, try to pull McGillicuddy on me?
Can I tell you what I was really doing?
Yes, this is pathetic.
I was buying go kart parts for my son.
Were you?
Yes, my son was in the quarter midgets at that time, and I was buying titanium axles, which are like 800 bucks.
I was trying to find the best price on titanium axles.
The reason why I had surveillance in my bedroom, and my whole house was surveilled except for other bedrooms.
Rooms, but my bedroom was under surveillance because I had a situation back in '99 where I was with a girl and I was a bachelor back then.
I was a bachelor, big ass house, you know, making a lot of money.
This is Power Pig days?
No, this is '98 Rock Days.
Okay.
You know, having a stripper every night, whole nine yards.
And I had a woman, a girl that I fucked and she.
About a week later, calls me up and wants to come over again and I can.
I can tell you her just her first name, first name was her name is Kathy and I mean there's some, there's a million Kathy's out there, so not anymore that you can tell it was the 90s.
Yeah exactly, there's no girls born after 2010 named Kathy.
So, on the sec, on the second time she came over she got too drunk.
She had, she liked wine.
I had a big wine seller.
I'm not a wine drinker, but you know, In order to be a pimp, you have to have a wine cellar.
I had a wine cellar, so she's out picking.
I think she drank like a bottle and a half of wine.
And we fucked.
We fucked.
And she, the next day, goes home, does the walk of shame, wakes up, hungover, drunk, goes back to her apartment.
And her girlfriend says, you know, where have you been all night long?
And she says, I've been with Bubba the Love Sponge.
And her girlfriend's like, well, what happened?
And she was like, well, you know, we fucked and I got drunk.
And the girl starts putting in her head, well, did you, you know, did he fuck you when you were drunk?
And were you?
Of sound mind, and did you really want to do it, and all this kind of shit?
So I get a call from Kathy, and she's like, You know what?
I don't know if I feel real good about what happened two nights ago.
You know, I think maybe you took advantage of me, or, you know, stuff like that.
And I'm like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold the fuck on.
Yeah.
I've been with you before, and, you know, and I didn't have any surveillance at that time.
And so I get a hold of my agent.
I tell him that this Kathy bitch is saying I may have been inappropriate, which I, Have never had that allegation against me ever.
A lot of things I've done, that's not one of them.
So he goes, Listen, we're going to camera up your bedroom.
And if you ever get in that situation, you'll be able to prove you can tell consensual sex from non consensual sex.
Yeah.
I mean, from a videotape.
And he goes, Bottom line is, if it would ever come into play, it's a misdemeanor for recording somebody against their will.
Right.
And we would be able to prove that it wasn't that it was consensual.
So here I am a bachelor.
You know, fucking dollhouse bitches, you know, just being the man being being being uh, 30 some year old multi-millionaire, and I sir, I put surveillance in my bedroom and that's why I did it.
Um, I wasn't in the next room looking, I wasn't in in the corner jacking off.
Yeah it, just it, just it, just so.
Then, at that point, at what point do you have to start getting uh girls to sign uh, like nda's, I think?
I think.
I mean, I think now.
Yeah, I think so.
I think if you're a person of wealth, there's probably super athletes out there who go to parties and have to bring a stack of NDAs.
I know of athletes that make girls sign NDAs.
I'm not sure.
I've heard stories too.
Yep.
I've, and with a driver's license, like take a picture of your driver's license and make you sign an NDA before they'll fuck you.
You know, so that's the world we live in.
But like, what would happen even if the girl did sign the NDA and she went out and just like told the world about it?
Like, what would, I mean, if they had nothing to lose, what would they, what would, Much kind of like the Shannon Sharp deal like how did that shit go down like I mean I felt like that girl kind of extorted him a little bit Yeah, you know, what was that story?
It was his only fans girl or something Yeah, it was only fans girl and you know, you know, you and he had been like been with her many times right?
They were boyfriend or girlfriend right and you know, they were into some kink shit They were doing you know like to each like what what people what consenting adults do in their bedroom to each their own Yeah, I mean as long as it's not involving animals and fucking kids exactly shitting on somebody's chest and just some just crazy shit You know, if you're a swinger or you fucking whatever, whatever.
It gets weird when you start to add the power dynamic to it, you know, like with the Harvey Weinstein stuff and with the Diddy stuff.
Yeah, when you're in a position of power and you're brokering sex for something else.
Yeah.
Now that's a problem.
Right.
It doesn't even necessarily have to be over the top brokering.
It could be unsaid, right?
If you're a young girl, 17, even 16, whatever it is, and you're going to a Diddy party.
Or a Harvey Weinstein party or whatever it is.
And you're going there and sleeping with these guys.
You're not just going there because you think these guys are attractive.
You're going there because these guys are powerful and you got a shot of getting in on whatever they're a part of.
Right.
So I'm not putting the blame on them.
No, no.
By all means, but they're not innocent.
They're putting themselves in a situation where some shit could go down.
And, you know, the man, the guy is never going to get the favorable ruling on that.
No.
Ever.
No.
I mean, even if a girl, 17, 16, and her and her two little buddy girls were talking about it on the limo ride over and the limo driver was able to testify, hey, they were strategizing.
Right.
The guy would still go down.
Of course.
As he probably should.
You know, I mean, today's world is a different world than when, you know, I was running livestock bitches and 12 boobs at Christmas.
Well, here's my problem with it.
My problem with it is when you, when you, when all these celebrity parties with these girls going over there claiming, you know, they were getting taken advantage of or amused or whatever.
But these girls are, they're going there on their own will.
It's not like they're dragged and handcuffed and put in a cage.
And they're not going to church.
They're going home at the end of the night and going back to the next party the next weekend.
And you start, and you make.
This is what takes all the attention, and everyone freaks out about it.
But nobody talks about the fucking children who are trafficked to the tune of like hundreds of thousands all over the United States every single day by super powerful people and put into like they're taken from foster homes or trafficked across the border and put into these trafficking rings.
Very influential, very powerful, untouchable people that are so powerful and so influential that.
nobody even fucking talks about it.
And if you do talk about it, watch the fuck out.
I mean, like nobody talks about that.
But, you know, it's just, it's a different world that we live in.
And it's so easy to set up an influential guy nowadays that, you know, these athletes and other people, they have to have NDAs.
I mean, here's what I hate is I hate when girl A of age, 21, 22, fucks, influential guy 15 years ago.
And like the Danny Matherson guy from that 70s show.
Now, I don't know all of what happened, but I know it was like 10 years later.
10 years later, these girls came by, or whoever came by and said, Danny Matherson fucked us dirty and whatever the fuck happened.
Maybe they were underage.
Man, I think that.
It's so anti, it's skewed so anti men that I think that there needs to be some type of time.
If a certain amount of years have gone by, and it wasn't a crime 10 years ago because you weren't worried about it, but this guy's now become popular or become famous or become rich.
Now all of a sudden it's a problem.
I got a problem with that.
I don't know specifically what the Danny sentence to 30 years to life.
So let's say you're Danny Matherson and you're out these, you know, you're living the, Hollywood lifestyle of being a on a hit show called that 70s show and you're fucking.
You know you're fucking.
You're fucking these hot, you know, little groupie bitches that are hopefully of age.
I don't think his was anything to do with underage.
I don't think.
No, I don't.
I don't think so either.
I think it was just, yeah he, he fucked them yeah, and they didn't want to be fucked.
I guess, 15 years later right, which is I mean I?
How can you say I don't, I didn't want to be fucked 15 years ago?
But 15 years ago it was okay right, but I didn't say anything.
Then I didn't go and get a meet.
Now listen, I don't want that to underscore women who get and didn't want it.
And I hope that the people, women, or something like that, you immediately go and get it reported and get a kit and go to the cops and get that motherfucker, that sick fuck that did it to you, busted immediately.
But for these people that wait 10 years, 15 years, I think that's bullshit.
Yeah.
Yeah, because it's hard to decipher whether they're telling the truth at that point, right?
Because it sometimes just seems like a money grab.
It's like, oh, hey, I fucked this guy fucking 15 years ago and I didn't really want to, but I did.
So I was never going to get caught in that trick bag.
So people often say, you kind of back to your original question, well, why'd you have surveillance?
That's why I had it.
I had one little brush up and I was ever.
So then I'm getting ready to go through a divorce.
So I rip out my whole fucking system.
I take it to work.
Okay.
And I saved that file.
I saved that file and burn it to disk.
My bad.
I did it.
I've owned that I did it.
I've never said that I didn't do that.
And that was one of the biggest mistakes that I've made in my life.
I'm here today.
I lost it all.
I became public enemy number one because I didn't destroy that tape.
When I should have, which allowed it to be stolen, which allowed it to be shopped, which allowed it to end up doing what it did.
And it ruined my life.
It made Hogan rich.
It ruined my life.
And it caused Mike Kalta to take my job.
Who's the person who shopped it, by the way, and sent it to Gawker?
It's just so fucking unfair.
To the day they put me in the does he admit this now?
Does he deny it?
I never knew that part, actually.
No.
But it's in all the court records.
Oh, it's it's in refute.
It's in whatever.
And your documentary is the first time that this evidence has actually been shown to the public.
Yes.
That's amazing.
Phone records, emails, addresses, an email from Mike Kalta to his agent, Tony Burton, saying, Where do I send the videotape?
An address given.
I know the UPS store off of State Road 41 that he shipped it from.
I mean, that's how much due diligence we've done.
And again, I probably deserve what I got.
But he certainly shouldn't still be, you know, doing radio in Tampa, Florida for fucking 12 years thereafter.
And at the tune of where his company had to write a $52 million check to save his ass.
I couldn't survive a $755,000 fine from the FCC.
How does he survive that?
I have no idea.
Other than if they fire him, then they admit that they did it.
So that's the only thing that I could ever come up with.
And my documentary, which comes out today on Google Play, Amazon, and Apple TV, Video Killed the Radio Star really takes you.
You've seen it.
It takes you.
I mean, when you watched it, did you know any of that shit?
No.
No.
I knew none of it.
Because you know why?
That lawsuit settled.
Cox versus Hogan settled.
And never on Channel 13.
Live, lead story tonight on Channel 13.
The lawsuit that got settled.
No, settled lawsuits just go away.
So that's what happened in my situation.
Had Cox versus Hogan gone to trial, all of the information basically in this documentary would have come out.
Wow.
That's so crazy.
And during that FBI sting, when Hogan was getting wired up to go to the Sand Pearl to meet with the extortionists, Brooke was on your show.
She said that Hulk told her.
Hogan came back.
He came back after the sting and said to Jennifer, his wife, and Brooke, his daughter, Bubba didn't have anything to do with the distributing or leaking of this tape.
Bubba didn't do it.
So why didn't he try to like at least repair the friendship with you?
Or at least did you ever try to reach out to him?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I think public perception was, you know, he didn't want people to think that if he acknowledged me or we became friendly again or I wasn't, you know, public enemy number one, that people may have thought it was a work or it was a wrestling inside job and we did it together.
And that's not the case.
But he didn't want that.
Chance of people saying or thinking that.
So selfishly, he let me sit here and just fucking absolutely get my life destroyed and didn't give a fuck.
That's crazy.
I mean, and we were best friends.
I mean, we were best friends.
You had the, in the documentary, there's the footage of your wedding where he's like doing the speech and he's the best man saying that you're the only person that he would trust with his kids.
Yes.
He's the godfather of my son.
He was the best man on my wedding.
It's sad.
It's sad because I wish I could have been there for him when he died.
I wish I wasn't public enemy number one in his world.
But I hope that my documentary, Video Kill the Radio Star, will give people that watch it the true perspective on what I did do and what I didn't do.
And I forever get judged for what I didn't do.
If you go and ask, and I said this last time, if you go and ask anybody in Tampa, hey, tell me about the Hogan sex tape.
Well his best friend, Bubba, taped it, tried to fucking extort him, tried to sell it, and, you know, he's a piece of shit.
Well, I did some of that, but not all of it, and I probably am not the piece of shit that you think I am.
Yeah, you definitely didn't get anything out of it.
No, it ruined my life.
I mean, it ruined my life.
It fucking ruined my life.
Baby Mama Money and Extortion00:08:20
And Hogan got a ton of money out of it.
62 million all in.
I mean, you know, listen to this.
In his entire career, he never made more than 10 million in one fiscal year.
Really?
In his in his career, the most he ever made was between 10 and 12 million in one year.
In one year, so and this was what was the peak, do you think?
When he was with WCW, what year would that have been?
99, 2000, 2001.
He was probably making about eight to 10 million, right?
I know that a couple times when we were working out, a couple of his pay per view checks would come in and they'd be like 1.2 million.
I'd never seen a check that big before.
He'd be like, How many zeros are on there, brother?
And I'd be like, I don't know, but a lot.
I got the best story ever.
Look, I found a check under a candy bar.
So listen to this.
Best story ever.
He used to go in for these back injections called Ferset injections.
And the only place that he really thought did him well was this place in Beverly Hills.
So we were best friends.
So we would take the 6 o'clock in the morning Delta direct flight to LA.
And he would be, we'd land like at 10 in the morning.
He would go right to the hotel.
I mean, I'm sorry.
He'd go right to the doctor.
I'd go scrub in and be with him.
And it wasn't out.
They didn't put him under, but they would put these injections in his back.
Okay.
These first set injections.
And they basically lasted him about three or four months where he had some relief.
You know, his back didn't hurt so bad.
It was kind of like a lubrication.
It was just kind of like putting a band-aid on his back problem.
He really knew he needed back surgery, but he would do this for a while.
So we're sitting in the Delta Crown Room in Tampa one morning.
It's like.
505.
The plane loads like in 30 minutes, and he has like 300 bucks cash on him.
And he goes, I need some more money.
So he gets his wallet out and he finds this beat up ATM card and it's like scratched all up and stuff.
And he goes, oh man, I forgot about this account.
Linda doesn't even know about this account.
And I know his PIN number and I'm not going to say it on the air because it's also his house.
Like it's the number that he used for everything in life from his PIN to his house security number.
So there's a certain number that is this when he was living at Willowdale?
Yes, this is what he's living at Willowdale.
Okay.
So he goes, brother, Bubba, do me a favor.
Go down to the ATM and see if you can get, I don't know, 600.
See if it'll, it might not be worth, there might not be nothing in there.
Yeah.
But just get 600 if you can.
So I get on there, I stick it in the machine, type in the fucking pin code, and it says, it starts spitting it out.
So I know I'm good for six.
And it says, do you want a receipt?
Well, I'm like, well, fuck yeah.
I want to know.
Yeah.
So I hit the fucking, do you want to know the balance?
Yeah.
That's what it said.
So I hit it and it's d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d.
So I got it out and I looked at it and I was like, So I went over to the sunglass place that sold sunglasses.
I said, Can I borrow a pen?
They're like, Sure.
Because I wanted to fucking put the commas.
There were so many zeros.
I wanted to take it and do the commas.
They didn't put the commas in.
Well, no.
I mean, they had 0.00 cents, but there was a whole bunch of fucking numbers.
So I needed to comma it out.
Figure where it's at.
Yeah, I needed to figure it out.
Oh my God.
Four.
4.325 million in an account he didn't even forgot about that he thought was dead.
And I go, He goes, Did I have it?
Did you get six?
And I go, Oh, yeah, I got six.
He goes, Great.
And I gave it back to him.
I go, Terry, do you have any idea how much fucking money is in that account?
He goes, No, brother.
Eight, two G's, four G's.
I go, No, 4.2 million.
He goes, Fuck, don't tell Linda about that account.
Linda never knew about it.
Hit $4.2 million.
And I was just like, oh my God.
So he hit that one.
He kind of tucked that one behind his social security card.
And Linda went after him again after the Gawker case.
Oh, Linda got, I think Linda got 40%.
I think Linda for all perpetuity gets like, now I don't know about death for as far as his estate.
I don't think she gets shit.
But I think she made 40% of everything.
No way.
Yeah.
How?
That was so much because that happened during the marriage or during the divorce?
Because if you've been married in Florida more than 20 years, then this fucking ultra gimmick kicks in where you have to.
Now, I think DeSantis changed the law, but before Hogan, when Hogan obviously got divorced in 2007, it was called like injunctive relief alimony where you had to provide somewhat the same type of lifestyle.
After 20 years, you had to provide for your ex.
For maintaining that lifestyle forever.
Now, that's been changed, but when he got divorced, I think he's grandfathered in.
I just saw something on Instagram.
I saw something somewhere about this football player, Tyreek Hill.
Yeah.
You saw it today.
He's got 11 kids.
I know.
He's got more kids than touchdowns.
Yes, he does.
Yeah.
We said that on the air today.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he's got, and did you see like he had to give like, 150,000 down, and then he's got like 40,000, and then he has 11 kids and one baby mama.
I think all of them get 30, and then there's a bunch of kickers.
Like, you know, one baby mama gets like 100 grand, and one baby mama gets like 40 grand.
Well, one of them got like 50 grand a month just for lifestyle maintenance.
Yes, just to maintain her lifestyle that she's accustomed to while living with that motherfucker.
And that was in Florida, because he was living in Miami.
I'd just be fucking rich, dudes.
I'd be such a I'd actually be skinny and in shape.
I'd go to the gym every day, get some tits.
Oh, it's a great, it's a great, yeah.
But the, yeah, but the, it's, there's two sides to everything at the same, at the, on the other side of the coin, they only have a certain amount of time that that's good for sure.
I mean, Girls age and dolly balls.
I know that, but I mean, if you had your shit together, you're 18, 19, you're hot as fuck, you're dealing with yourself three, four times a week on OnlyFans.
Yeah, making a million a month.
Making a million a month.
You need to, you know, and let's say you time out at 25, but you've made a million a month since you're 18, and you had somebody that was responsible enough to fucking keep you on track to not living like a fucking idiot.
Right.
You could really.
Set for life.
Yeah.
Retire.
Yeah, if you play your cards right when you're young.
I actually have known, you know, back in the 90s and early 2000s, these strippers I would hang out with from the dollhouse and stuff that really did have their shit together.
Yeah.
And they really drove Mercedes's and they lived in fucking, you know, $3,000 or $4,000 a month fucking cribs, but they were making 20 grand a month stripping.
Yeah.
And they were actually, you know, had three houses.
But they actually were buying rental properties and, you know, making investments and stuff like that.
Yeah.
And these women are 50, 55 now, and they're set.
Yeah.
They're fucking, they stripped for 10 years.
They didn't get caught up in the cocaine and all the fucking stripper drama.
They actually had a mission.
Most of them went through school and they made a lot of money.
Now, I mean, you don't even have to be a stripper anymore.
You don't even have to leave the privacy of your own home.
You can just kick it out wide at home.
Just fucking kick it out wide.
Kick it out wide and take the shit out of each other.
Just fucking in there.
It's fucking crazy.
CBS COVID Stories and FCC Guidelines00:05:35
God, dude.
Tyler's going to have to censor the living shit out of this episode so we don't get new.
Off YouTube.
Oh, really?
It's all right.
It's okay.
It's fine.
It's fine.
This is the Bubba special.
We can't be holding back.
You guys might not even have this thing edited in time for the release.
No, we'll have it fine.
It's a fast editor.
Yeah, Tyler's.
You should have told me it was PG.
I can go PG.
No, it's not PG.
It's just like certain things.
YouTube is like the FCC.
Trust me.
I play the YouTube game.
The YouTube game's tough.
Oh, and then you play seven seconds of something.
You don't think you'll get a copyright strike.
You get a copyright strike.
Well, not only the copyright stuff.
The copyright stuff's easy to navigate.
Just don't play videos because then you'll be fine.
Or music.
But like, The speech censorship is crazy.
They'll find any excuse to demonetize or shut down a video for different reasons, for like saying the F bomb too many times, talking about sexual stuff, saying the C word, the four letter C word, that'll get you nuked.
I got nuked with Dr. Diaco.
Talking about the vaccines will get you nuked.
So, Dr. Diaco is a doctor.
He's a doctor.
And he was very aggressive on the ivermectin.
Yeah.
He was deoxycycline, zinc.
Kind of like what Joe was pushing Joe Rogan right on that same deal.
And we're early on in COVID.
Now, this isn't Joe Rogan.
This isn't an expert.
This is a doctor who is talking about the prescribing of medication to his patients and how it's working or not.
Two week ban.
I was banned for two weeks for going against WHO guidelines because they were all about the shot and the vaccine.
I didn't have to.
But I was like, listen, this is a doctor.
Doesn't matter.
And this is his remedy.
To fight this disease, and he took the doctor's oath to do good by your patients and try to make them better.
Yeah.
They didn't care.
Nope.
They did not care.
Nope.
And there's nothing.
There's nobody you can talk to.
There's no jury you can go in front of.
Nope.
Just some freaking chick with pink hair sitting in her house getting paid to work remotely to flag video.
Who is a big scythe?
Yep.
Exactly.
And probably men.
Yep.
And you can send emails until you're blue in the face.
No one's going to respond to them.
They're not going to do anything.
They don't care.
And it's not like it's, it's, it's, Oh, God.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know how you compare it to the FCC because at the end of the day, it's worse than the FCC because the FCC, you have clear guidelines.
Right.
Like you know that you can't say tits.
You know that you can't say shit.
You know that you can, you know, it's community guidelines, but you know the words you can't say.
But even on regular radio, they weren't regulating talking about the vaccine or ivermectin.
They weren't regulating any of that.
The FCC.
So, If it's good by broadcast standards.
Even during COVID, they weren't?
No.
Really?
No.
Now, some companies were, but I'm an independent.
When I, when I, on the terrestrial stations that I'm heard on, I'm an independent contractor.
I don't work for that company.
I just license my show to them.
So I don't work for Cox or I don't work for iHeart.
I work for the Bubba Radio Network.
So some companies had like iHeart and they had policies, but nobody could tell me what I could say.
Yeah, the crazy thing about YouTube and Google, which owns YouTube, is that they make a lot of their money from the pharmaceutical companies.
And the pharmaceutical companies are the ones that control all this stuff.
Everything.
Did you know this?
That CBS, the pharmaceutical companies during the COVID deal got so creative that they didn't want to, during the CBS evening news and during things like that, they didn't want to actually run the go get the shot commercial.
Although they did, you know, Pfizer, whatever, go get the shot, Moderna.
Vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.
So they went to CBS and said, We don't want to advertise in between when you do news and then you go to your three minute commercial break and then you come back.
We don't want to be in that three minute commercial break as a shot.
We want the news stories to be about us.
And so they would show this file footage of completely jam packed operating rooms that weren't.
Really jam packed.
They were B roll footage from some other disaster, and they would show ventilators and all this stuff and make the COVID way more than it really was.
And so instead of buying advertisers, they would buy story placements.
So CBS would make the story about COVID.
Right.
And it was always pro vaccine, this and this, ventilator, this and this.
And so they got creative and they actually spent.
30% more money that way than just the regular advertising one.
Yeah, it's so crazy.
It's sickening.
And the crazy thing about it is Google and YouTube, they don't need to do the bidding of these companies.
They own a monopoly on advertising across the globe.
Right.
They like, even if you told those companies, no, get effed, like we're not going to follow your rules that you want to impose.
I don't think those pharmaceutical companies would have any leg to stand on.
They would say, okay, like where else are you going to go?
There's nowhere else to go to advertise but Google and YouTube.
Well, but here's the deal.
Monopoly on Global Advertising00:07:52
It's all California based.
It's all woke.
It's all highly blue liberal.
You know, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, I think the majority of the Google and the YouTube and the meta and all that.
The majority of the problem you have is where they're based out of, where their management comes from, where they live, how the lifestyles that they live.
I mean, you know, people in California are way different than us here, us guys here in Florida.
I mean, go to Grady Judd in Polk County and rob $940 worth of stuff at Walgreens and watch how fast you're eating cement.
Right.
And then go to San Francisco and do it and you probably won't get charged.
Right.
That's the difference.
It's crazy.
It's, I, Like I said about Joe Rogan, the best thing he ever did was get the fuck out of California.
And he was one of the very first.
So, I mean, California is a shit show.
Well, Gavin Newsom's trying to, he's trying hard right now to like revive his image.
And he's trying to, he's trying to like slowly tiptoe out of that woke camp and trying to like be more middle of the road, be more of like a guy's guy.
And have you been noticing what he's been doing with his interviews and going on all these big podcasts and stuff like this?
Right.
I mean, He might be the only chance they have.
I don't know.
I mean, I mean, you know, here's the problem.
You could see when the Democratic Party was grooming Barack Obama.
You could see it when they brought him out at the Democratic National Convention during, I think it was during the Bush second term.
And he was this fresh faced senator out of Chicago.
And Barack Obama wasn't that bad.
I mean, Barack Obama did some good stuff.
You know, he wasn't so far woke and so far left.
You know, he was still a bona fide Democrat.
He was a, you know, he was a Democrat right here, Democrat.
Well, The problem is they were grooming him to be somebody.
The Democratic Party is in such shambles now.
Who's their Barack Obama?
Who are they grooming?
Candace Owens.
I mean, I think she could be the next one, bro.
The problem is here's a Democratic Party.
Just like Elon Musk said.
Elon?
Elon Musk.
Just like Elon Musk said, he used to be here with the Democratic Party right here.
Yep.
Well, now the Democratic Party is here.
Yeah.
And, you know, it could, it could survive here, but it's, it's, it's way over here.
Whereas the Republicans, and they're, they're just as guilty with their evangelical anti abortion bullshit.
I mean, like, you know, I mean, it's just, they both have gone to, they both have gone so far one way that that guy that's stuck there in the middle, you know, we're the ones that make the most sense, but we aren't necessarily the ones that are people.
Or that are in making any decisions, or you know, I mean, we're just stupid streamers and podcasters, we're not politicians, so you got to be one way or the other.
And you know, I don't know, I'm we could sit here and talk politics all night, but I would rather not because it's not fun and it's so polarizing, you know, yeah, it really is, it really is.
And it's like the like what you're describing is it's like the horseshoe theory where the when you get to the extreme right and the extreme left, you come together, right?
You know, it's like the bootlegger and the Baptist, like, here's the deal, you know what, like.
Okay.
I believe in guns.
I believe that you should be able to take your 18 year old girlfriend to the abortion clinic smoking a joint with your handgun.
Yeah.
Yep.
And that covers all, that covers it all.
That's pro gun.
That's right.
That's pro abortion, which is left, right?
I don't know where marijuana stands.
I don't know who's more, probably the left is probably more pro marijuana than right.
So, you know, I believe in abortion, weed, and handguns.
And I think that's the way most Americans are.
Definitely.
But.
We're the minority, but we're really not.
We're really the majority.
Yeah.
And it's just these fringe.
We don't realize it because it's only the only only lives on the internet.
Right.
Right.
And you get these fringe like trans.
Let's talk about trans.
Yeah.
It doesn't affect anybody in this room.
It doesn't affect anybody that I know.
It doesn't affect anybody that I associate with.
And if a person wants to do that, great.
Let them go ahead and do that.
Let them trans.
But there should only be one rule.
They should have to be an adult.
When you're 18 and you want to cut off your wiener, go ahead.
If you're 18 and you want to get a set of boobs, go ahead.
If you're 18 and you want to attach a wiener, go ahead.
But you got to be 18.
You can't be like in California where their law is if you're a kid, you can hide it from your parents of what you want to become and tell your teacher, and your teacher will hide it from your parents.
Fundamentally, man, that's just not cool no matter how you slice it, no matter what political party you are in.
Yeah, I think that's the symptom of empire and decline.
Do you know how badass of a softball player I would have been on the Warsaw girls softball team?
I mean, I was a pretty badass football player, but I would have been hitting dingers.
I would have been Bubba Bonds if I was playing against bitches back in 1984.
I would have just been fucking driving them out.
I mean, so that's what you can do now in some states.
Hey, I'm backup Jones when I play with the boys, but I'm fucking All Star Willie.
I'm All Star Willie when I'm playing.
I'm Martha McGuire.
Yeah.
Fucking Mark McGuire with a wig on.
And that's what some of these states allow.
The crazy thing, too, is how a lot of the crazy trans activist people are now really into violence and guns and stuff like this.
Have you seen them wearing the shirts with the machine guns on them?
And you look at the school shooters.
Yeah.
And there's a percentage of them that either have transitioned, were transitioning, were into it, had books on it.
Yeah.
So it's just like.
And that recent one, the guy who shot up the kids, he was trans.
The Catholic Church or whatever it was.
And had that whole manifestation.
And he regretted it.
He regretted it.
He wanted to go back to, he was like, he wish he never did it.
Right, right.
And it's just like, you know, I don't know.
It just, these fringe topics that we talk about that make the news really don't affect any of us.
No, no.
It's a Wawa.
But it's what divides us all.
My friend Julian has this great theory called, he calls it, he lives in New Jersey.
He calls it the Wawa theory.
He's like, you go on, you live on Twitter all day and you, You think that the world's going up in flames.
You know, everyone wants to kill the trans people, they are shooting up everyone.
You know, the Nazis are marching down the street on this street, and everything's going up in smoke.
But you step up from the computer, drive your car to Wawa, and you see the fat chick with green hair holding the door for the Vietnam veteran.
Yeah.
You know, the problem is most people are recluse and they're living.
Remember how we were talking about earlier about the metasphere and how we could be the mayor of, yeah, well, Right.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
That, you know, when we were kids, we had our bikes and we were out late until the streetlights came on and we were out there just, you know, making forts and trying to find our dad's Playboy books and shit like that.
But I was going to, I would ride over to Danny's house or Danny would come over to my place and I didn't have to talk to him through a headset or anything like that.
AI Voices vs Real Humans00:05:08
And, you know, that's why the younger generation can't date efficiently because they don't know how to talk to.
They don't.
Some of them are homeschooled.
So you don't even go to school with girls or boys, girls, boys, boys, girls.
You don't really know how to talk or interact because everything you do is electronically.
Now, let's add on the other fuck with factor, and that is AI.
I mean, where are we headed there?
I mean, I asked AI to tell me about Bubba the Love Sponge, and it wrote something better than any publicist I could have ever paid written.
It wrote everything.
I mean, from my hog deal to the Hogan scandal to everything.
I mean, it wrote everything.
And I was like, I couldn't have accurately, accurately, in 10 seconds, in 14 seconds.
Yeah, and it was better.
I've had publicists before, and they're usually about $2,500 a month when you're really rolling hard.
And there's no publicist that could have written something that accurate about me.
It's like fucking crazy making people lazy.
You don't have to do the work anymore, you don't think you make it so you don't have to use your brain anymore.
You don't know that, but what, where, where does it come?
Where do we start?
Have you guys seen it?
It was on Netflix called Companion.
Have you seen that?
No.
Oh, it's about this guy, and he orders an artificial intelligent girlfriend named Ivy.
And she's like, This is a real documentary or is this fiction?
Oh, it's fiction.
Okay.
It's a movie.
It's a movie.
Yeah.
But it's fiction.
Okay.
But it's, I don't think we're that far off from it.
And this, and so.
Well, have you seen her, Spike Jones's movie, Her?
No.
With Joaquin Phoenix?
No.
That's the one I was thinking of.
Yeah, that's the original one.
He does the exact one.
That's one of my favorite movies of all time.
He falls in love with an AI.
Yeah, I think her came out in like the early 2000s, Steve.
Oh, so way ahead of this.
Yeah.
So, comparing this guy has this hot ass bitch, and he even went in and set up how they met, where they met at.
He set it up.
He set it up.
Oh, 2013.
He set it up that they met at the grocery store and they started flirting with each other and then they fell in love and then they went to this weekend getaway.
And if from there it just turns in, then there's this gay guy and he orders a gay, a gay AI robot and you can have, you can on your phone determine, you can fix every, you can determine.
And so Ivy, the guy who owned Ivy, now she fucks and she, I'm like, you know, she, she does it all.
I mean, she's, she looks, but you can put her, her intelligent level, you know, from dumb to smart.
So he had, there she is right there.
Oh, wow.
And.
That looks creepy.
Somehow she turns against him and she grabs his phone and he has her as dumb at 40% and she jacks herself up to 100% so she can outsmart the motherfucker and she outsmarts him and ends up killing him.
No.
Yeah.
It's so great.
Wow.
It's so great.
Oh, yeah.
There's so many good movies based on this exact premise.
But how, I mean, I don't think we're that far from that.
No, I don't think so either.
No, we're getting closer.
We're getting closer and it's ramping up.
I think maybe in our life.
I'll probably die before you, Danny, because you're on roids.
But I'm just saying.
Bubba, I'm not on roids.
You're on roids.
You and concrete.
Come on over here on roids.
I'm on fat roids.
You're on bodybuilding roids.
I'm just saying.
Probably in my lifetime.
But I think in your lifetime, you're going to have to deal with am I talking to a real person or am I talking to a fucking robot?
I really do.
I think that, I mean, who would have thought the advancements we've made in the last 10 years?
Just think of the advancement we've made in electronic cars and space travel and just these AI now that they have out now that are getting pretty damn.
You know, pretty, pretty, pretty damn fluid, if you will.
Well, I mean, for sure on Instagram, I get tricked every day with videos that I think are real that are AI.
Absolutely.
It looks insanely.
Think about this.
You're 38, I'm 59, I'm oldest.
I'm a boomer compared to you.
So I get tricked double the amount of times.
Right, right.
I mean, there's so many times I'll come up with a story and my producers will be like, Bubba, that's AI.
I'm like, oh shit, I feel real stupid, you know, because I thought it was for real.
You know, I mean, yeah, it happens every day, man.
It's crazy.
It's everywhere.
It's the next thing.
I got to take a leak real quick.
Yeah.
We'll be right back.
We're back from words.
We're back from words.
What are we talking about?
AI?
We're talking about technology and AI.
Let's talk about your new studios.
You've been telling your fans about that at all?
No, we haven't talked about it at all, really.
Really?
But we're moving in soon.
We're trying.
Well, the big.
What's your move in date?
My move in date is hopefully March 1 of next year for my new studio.
Oh, you already got your new place?
Drag Racing and Selling Images00:07:05
Yes.
Yes.
I got my new place.
And you're building it out right now.
Building it out right now.
And see, you got to understand my studio.
Was made for terrestrial radio.
Right.
Like you've been in there.
You've been, so you've been in that building for how long?
Since 10.
Whoa.
Prior to that, I was in another building not too far down the road, which was much smaller, much kind of like this.
Okay.
And then I bought that big place that had upstairs down where I am now.
Yeah.
And I have goats out back and all that.
But so I'm in the process of kind of downsizing and you're in the process of upsizing.
But, you know, today's world is the amount of equipment that you don't need.
Compared to what you did need.
When I was rolling hard back in 2011 when I bought that place, I mean, you needed, I mean, just the amount of equipment.
Our rack room is the size of this whole room, you know, for equipment and mic processing.
And, you know, everything has become more simpler and easier to do now that we don't need.
We don't need a stage.
We don't need a shower.
We don't need a bar.
We don't need a stripper pole.
You know, we don't need any of that anymore because I don't got strippers in there pissing in coffee cans and doing the stuff that I used to do.
Not because I don't want to do, you couldn't do what I used to do anywhere unless it was OnlyFans.
Back when I used to have the strippers in there and we would do drag racing and we would do, you know, like, you know.
What was drag racing?
Well, now that you ask, is you take two girls and you put them on a couch and you put towels underneath them and some girls can squirt and some girls cannot.
And you have.
Time and distance.
So you say, ready, go, and they start taking care of themselves.
And the one that the first is the winner for the speed.
And then you have a distance one.
And there's a girl that we had that could from here to that screen.
Whoa.
And I'm not kidding you.
She won the distance.
Whoa.
And this was all on film?
Yeah.
I got it on film.
I have all this on film.
And this was allowed to be on radio.
The FCC didn't care.
Oh, no, no, no.
That was on Sirius XM.
Oh, Sirius XM.
When.
We had a Sibian, a monkey rocker.
You know, we had, I mean, we had literally, we would have girls with strap-on dicks having sex with each other.
Oh my God.
While giving oral to 25 Cent, the black guy.
And you wonder why I can't get guests.
At 7 a.m.?
No, that was like 4 p.m.
We were afternoon drive.
We weren't waking people up with that.
My most famous contest in Tampa ever, and I'm thinking about bringing it back, was the 12 boobs of Christmas, where I gave 12 sets of tits away to flat chested women every Christmas.
Right.
And we couldn't do that anymore because.
Dr. Diaco's competition called and the Board of Health, the Board of Medicine, the Board of Doctors, or whatever, and made it illegal to have a contest on the radio.
And so we couldn't do it anymore because Dan would get, we get a thousand women that would sign up for a pair of boobs and then Dan would only 12 would win, but the other 980 would get.
No, no, they would get coupons for 25% off.
So they're getting them anyway.
So we would do like 50 finalists and 12 won.
And then the other 38 would get like.
Get a BOGO.
No, like literally 50% off.
Wow.
So that's like Dan's cost.
That's about his cost.
And then the other 925 would get 25% off.
So a $5,000 boob job back in the day now all of a sudden is $3,500.
And he couldn't book him fat.
I mean, he would literally be doing 25 boob jobs a week, and the next doctor in Tampa would be doing six.
How many could you possibly do in a day?
He can do one in 52 minutes.
One pair?
What's the most he's done in a day?
Do you know?
I think the most he's ever done in the day is eight.
Whoa!
Eight sets?
Eight sets.
You're going to say that you're never doing one.
But you understand, when we would do this contest, you can look at a girl, and if she's a little bit older, and you have to. do a little lipo here to get that one to do.
He would pick the best candidates that he could do the quickest and have zero complications.
So he was the doctor that was picking out the winners because he would, as part of the entrance, you would have to take a picture of your, and it was private, but you'd have to submit a picture to the doctor with your shirt off.
So he knew what you, it was a medical file.
Right, sure.
HIPAA.
Yeah, so you would take a picture of your shirt off.
So he could get an idea what you had stock and he would be able to like, you know, if a girl had them just drooping down and she, you know, he would stay away from that.
That's going to be an expensive lift kit.
Right.
You need a lift kit on that.
Right.
So he'd get that 20 year old who hasn't had a kid, who's just got a really good, nice set of natural boobs, you know, like a 32B natural that wanted to jack them up to a 34C, you know, and he would pick those.
So he could get them done and he could do a boob job in an hour.
You know.
Whereas if you get a, you know you get a mom who's had a couple kids and she has to have a little little nip tuck, you know she has to.
He has to kind of navigate them differently.
When you got you know there's different levels of of of what you have, of what you have to do.
You know like sometimes you have to take a little liposuction here to make it set right and stuff like that.
So he wouldn't take any of those cases at all.
Yeah, you don't want to put a have to worry about putting a brand new suspension on like a 95 day right right, you just want to put new wheels on it and let it roll right, right.
So I mean, but he, but then We would, one of the things about the 12 Boobs Of Christmas was after you got your titties, you would have to come to the studio and show us.
So that was part of the deal.
So we, you know, six months later after these girls.
Oh, I can see how that could go south.
Oh, that was sick.
But then I also owned, I had 2257's consent forms and all these chicks.
And where I kicked myself in the ass is I was going to come up with a yearly calendar with the 12 girls each month and sell like a Hooters calendar, but it was going to be a Bubba Army calendar with all these topless bitches.
But I never, I never, I missed a lot of money there.
I think, I think that you probably could have gotten in a lot of trouble too.
They probably would have come after you.
No, they, They could not.
My 2257.
They were rock solid.
Rock solid.
Wow.
To the point where it said, I can even sell your image.
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I own your image.
The image that you're submitting to me, I own, and I can sell and repurpose it in any way I want.
Chicks will sign anything for new tits.
Right.
Let's just be honest.
That's true.
And then what happened with the story that you haven't told, which I think is an interesting story, is about the hog, the slaughtered hog.
What was the stuff?
What year?
That was when you were doing the power pig.
Yeah.
I went on trial.
They put me on trial for that.
And that was, I was facing five years in prison for that.
That was your first big lawsuit?
No, I had one from a state trooper that I called, you know, some guy.
I was with the Power Pig back in the day, and we were going down to Kentucky Fried Chicken in Bradenton to hand out free chicken boxes to the homeless.
And we were doing something good.
And I'm on the Power Pig van going about 90 on the spot.
You got to make it funny.
You got to do it at KFC.
Well, no, they were our sponsor.
Oh, okay.
So they were, you know, it was in conjunction with, it was in conjunction with, it was fucking funny.
Yeah, it was, and it was like, you know, it was a, it was, it was with Kentucky Fried Chicken, and we'd already done it like in Largo and Lakeland.
Didn't you get sponsored by Yaya's?
I was sponsored by Yaya's.
Whatever happened to them?
We were talking about that the other day.
Is there still a washed potatoes and gravy and the fridge and chicken ranch dressing?
The ranch dressing, the buttermilk ranch dressing.
Oh, my God.
I probably have 50 pounds just because of that.
I'm salivating right now.
I don't know.
They closed them.
Mall down, man.
I think there's one up in Dunedin that we found, but that was a good one.
Yeah, but that used to be an old Long John Silver's and it was kind of shitty.
But oh, yah, yah.
Oh, my God.
So, anyway, I was driving the Power Big Fan and I was speeding on the Skyway and they had the aircraft up and they were timing you that way.
So, I got pulled over and this old cop came up and started fucking with me.
And of course, I got a ticket.
And of course, I just didn't get on the air that night and say I got.
Stopped by a lovely police officer.
I just drug him through the mud like you wouldn't believe.
That was my first lawsuit.
Called him an old grandpa.
He had a gerotol drip and all that kind of stuff.
He took me to court and I won.
That was my first one.
Then my second one was a hog deal.
And we had a thing called Roadkill Barbecue.
And it was for Marilyn Manson or Metallica tickets.
And we wanted people to go get roadkill, like possum and raccoon and squirrel, things that had been hidden by cars.
We were going to barbecue them and make listeners eat them for concert tickets.
So it was going great.
We had a plan for a Friday.
And all of a sudden at five in the morning, this hunter calls in.
He's a professional hunter and trapper.
He's got a Florida license.
And people paid this guy $500 to take wild feral hogs off of their property.
Because those wild feral hogs are just, I mean, they will root up your entire lawn.
They would have called him as a professional hunter to come and kill these hogs and take them off our property.
So he calls us up at 5 30, 30 minutes before the show starts, and says, Hey, I know you guys are doing roadkill barbecue today, but what if I bring a hog?
I got a real live hog I just trapped, and I'll kill him right there in the parking lot.
The humane way to kill him there's three ways you can kill a hog with a bow and arrow, with a gun, or you can slice its neck.
Well, we couldn't use a bow and arrow or a gun because we're in city limits.
So the hogs, the hunter slices.
So he brought you the hog live.
Brought us the hog live.
And so that was mistake one.
So We call the Florida Fish and Wildlife Emergency Hotline and we get a hold of a real game warden and we tell them we're located at 4002 Gandy.
And we want to do, we have a professional hunter that wants to kill a hog and we want to eat it.
We want to barbecue it.
He said, well, you need to cut its throat.
And if you'd like for it to be less gamey, for the meat to be less gamey, then you, right before you kill it, you cut off its testicles.
And then you cut, slit its throat.
That way, if you don't, if you slit its throat and it still has its testicles, it gets a testosterone surge and taints the meat.
Interesting.
So the hunter did it.
We're live on the air, you know, praising hell.
Yeah.
So a couple of saleswomen call the cops and the cops show up.
They look at the state statute book.
We did it according to the state statute.
Now it was distasteful and I would never do that ever again.
If I was, it makes me cringe today because I love animals.
I'm not a hunter or anything like that.
But we didn't do anything wrong.
It wasn't what you would do, even if you weren't rolling the cameras or on air, right?
That's the way you would do it.
Yeah, that's how you do it.
Yeah.
And so we did it.
We didn't waste any of the meat.
The hog didn't die for entertainment purposes and we threw the carcass in the back.
We ate it.
We had barbecue that day for all the.
The 150 fans that were there.
And they organized with the state attorney and said it was a felony animal cruelty for entertainment purposes.
There is no state statute about that.
And they arrested me and put me on trial.
And I was in front of a jury trial.
They deliberated for a week.
We were able to present four or five expert witnesses, veterinarians and hunters that said that we did it the correct way.
The state wasn't able to produce any.
Witnesses because they couldn't find anybody said it was distasteful and I and it was crude and it was shocking that's the shit that I do, but it wasn't illegal and in a jury deliberated for 52 minutes while the state served them ham sandwiches for lunch, needless to say, and I was clear, I was cleared you know, cleared of that, otherwise I was facing five years in prison and and so that was probably one of the most scarier things that I've did,
and you know what, thinking about it now and it's, it was Really not cool.
I'm now a member of PETA.
I'm a member of PETA.
And you're a vegetarian, vegan, which is commendable.
I mean, I was trying to find a McDonald's on the way here.
I ended up stopping at the subway down the street, but you notice I was not late.
I was one minute before I was supposed to be here.
You were?
But I ate Subway on the way here.
But no, I'm not a vegetarian, but I am a member of PETA because I don't believe in being cruel to animals or anything like that.
And so, yeah.
Such a crazy fucking story.
You and Howard were like the most persecuted radio personalities.
Absolutely.
And that was part of what made you guys so fun because you guys were always getting in trouble with the law and you guys were always talking about it, talking shit about the politicians who were doing corrupt shit in your towns.
One of the biggest troubles I ever got was Mark Ober.
There was a guy, I forget what the kid's name was.
He was 15 years old.
And there was Jesse Hargrove and another kid were 16 and 17.
They lived in Gibsington and they took this 15 year old boy out.
They lived in a trailer park.
Imagine that.
From Gibsonton, and they took this boy out of his house, took him down to the creek.
They had sex with him and shot him in the back of the head and killed him execution style.
These two, a 16 and a 17 year old, were the bad guys, and the 15 year old was the victim.
Well, Mark Ober gets on and starts saying that he's going to try these two kids as juveniles.
And there's a law in Florida that if a crime is so heinous, if you're 16 or 17, the judge can bump or the State attorney can bump it up to an adult crime.
It was a difference between them doing like five years in prison or life in prison.
So Mark Ober chose to prosecute them as juvies.
And I flipped out, flipped out on 98 Rock.
I had everybody send, at that time, remember faxes when you had a fax machine?
I burned up two or three fax machines within the state attorney's office.
And Mark Ober made it his.
Personal vendetta to fuck with me for the rest of my and and to this day, to the rest of my career in in Tampa.
I always had that mark over, shadow over me.
I just had an employee extort, I just had, I just had an employee embezzle two hundred thousand dollars of my business and I fired him and the state attorney, because it was me uh, refused to prosecute because um, I allowed him to say goodbye on the air and I didn't make an example out of him.
I let him go because he was a friend, but I still wanted him arrested and I allowed him to say goodbye.
Just, I didn't tell the fans necessarily how long ago was this?
Um, a year, two years ago oh wow, two years ago.
And um, it went through the state attorney's office and because I didn't get on the air and say hey, this piece of stole two hundred thousand dollars from me, instead I let him get on the air and say uh, you know i'm moving on.
Um, you know, because I didn't want to, you know, I I tried to be a good guy for once.
I tried, I tried to actually be a good guy And the state attorney used me, being nice against me and said, well, it looks like you didn't really care, or that you kind of knew about it.
And they chose not to press charges because it's me.
Jesus Christ.
I mean, just like the no file on the Hogan sex tape.
You know, they didn't file.
They never filed charges on the people that stole it.
They never filed charges on the people that extorted Hogan.
They never filed charges on the people that distributed it.
None of that because it was me.
I mean, Mike Calta punched my girlfriend in my fiance in the face at a public event two years ago.
What?
Punched her in the face, took her phone from her, punched her in the face.
And because she's my fiance, they didn't press charges and they told her that she's lucky she didn't go to jail because she was the aggressor.
She's five foot one, 105 pounds.
Oh, my.
Oh, there's video of it.
I wish you could see it.
Really?
Yeah, I wish you could see it.
On YouTube?
Yeah, there's video of it.
How does he search for it?
Type in, go to my channel, which is The Bubba Army, and then just type in Mike Calta and wait till you see what he did to her.
She walked up to him at a personal appearance.
He was at a personal appearance at a shark coast tactical.
And she walked up because nobody's ever asked this question.
And she had her phone.
And she said, Mike Calta, Mike Calta, can I ask you a few questions?
And he's like, sure, come on in.
Welcoming her in a public, keep on going down, down, down, down.
Right up.
Let me see.
Here we go.
That's it.
Two years ago.
So, wait, did you see this?
I was joking.
I was a tackler.
Come, be my friend.
Yeah, so she's asking him.
He looks drunk.
Yeah, so you can see he's really nice.
He doesn't know who she is, so he thinks he's going to get some ass.
He thinks it's some groupie.
And so she asks him questions about the sex tape.
Right?
I mean, you know, and you can fast forward it a little bit.
I'd say I'd fast forward it maybe.
Yeah, about right there.
About right there.
Okay.
Where is the lie?
I understand that.
To answer my question, where is the lie?
Okay, so you're admitting that you did that.
It's in court record.
So, where is the lie?
Danny, wait till you see this.
And guess what?
That's not a lie.
They were going to arrest her.
I've not been able to tell anything.
I'm under a gag order.
So, wait until I say that.
If you can show me one time where I said, I've told everything, it starts getting real good.
I have not been able to talk about anything.
Okay.
So, admit that you're wrong.
I admit that I'm wrong on that.
Look at the camera and put it in your face and throw your face.
So, he makes her admit that she's wrong about a certain aspect.
You forwarded an email.
Put that on.
Okay.
I got that.
You're not being truthful to yourself.
You're not being truthful to yourself.
I'm being.
Okay.
Let's talk about.
This is when it starts getting real.
Let's talk about September 27th when your agent checks the.
We're not.
Don't try to deter.
Don't try to deter the facts.
I'm not deterring any facts.
They're in public.
Yeah.
At a personal appearance.
You are.
Okay.
I love this.
Okay.
Yeah.
I love this too.
The next one.
When you.
This is what makes them flip out.
This makes him flip out.
The question she asked makes him flip out.
Because this is his attorney instructing him where to send the tape.
This is his attorney telling him where to send the sex tape.
Okay, so watch.
Your agent sent you Gawker's address to send the tape.
You asked him nothing yet on September 27th at 4 54.
So at that point, he's telling the security, let her go, let her go.
You asked him nothing yet.
You asked him nothing yet.
And then he replied.
What was that about?
He replied.
Well, in his reply, it was obviously about.
And within.
Danny, you're going to flip out when you see this.
This is the world that I live in.
This is the world that I live in.
210 Elizabeth Street, New York, New York, and where to send the tape.
So you're telling me two weeks before Gawker got the tape, and your agent gives you the address, you didn't send the tape?
I've never sent the tape.
You've got the address from your agent to send the tape.
You have no idea what that was about.
Okay, what else?
Were you going to send a gawker?
You have no idea.
You're just lying.
You act like a tough guy on the radio all the time saying, So he's got, she's got him here.
Yeah, she's got him.
And you're wrong, but you don't want to admit it.
So I don't know what more you want me to do.
Are you admitting that you got the address for gawker from your agent?
I don't know.
You've admitted the other email.
Yeah, because the other email was true.
This is true.
You're assuming you know what that's about.
Okay.
So your agent gave you gawker's address two weeks prior.
How pathetic is your life that you're here fighting this fight?
How pathetic is your life?
Now, watch this.
Turn around, look at these people.
Fighting for Your Phone Back00:02:51
Turn around, turn around.
He grabs her phone.
Stop it, Pause.
Stop it.
So he grabs her phone, which is grand theft.
He grabs her.
He makes first contact.
He grabs her phone.
And now he's videotaping the entire, you know, the entire place.
But he took her phone from her.
Yeah.
Okay.
And now continue on.
It's almost over.
And she says, How pathetic is your life that you're here for?
Honestly, how pathetic.
My life is not pathetic.
Turn around, look at these people.
Turn around, turn your camera.
Oh, he just takes her phone.
Yeah.
Strong arm, strong wrong robbery by sudden snatching.
You don't have permission to take my phone.
Now, watch this.
So she tries to get her phone back.
I'm going to what?
I'm going to kick the shit out of you.
Watch this.
He takes and erases her phone.
He's going through her.
Phone right now, she reaches over his shoulder to grab her phone.
Now, watch this.
Look at this.
Watch his hand right on her face.
Yeah, just mush her right out of there.
That's fucked.
Ugh.
And that sucks.
Then sends her outside, erases two of the videos off of her phone, and sends her phone back out there.
The cops come.
Mirandize him, get reading his rights.
He makes one phone call and the cops leave and the case gets dropped.
And the cops tell her, You're lucky he doesn't press charges because you were the aggressor when you went to get your phone.
And the Florida state statute states if something, if I take your phone from you, let's say this is your phone, I take this from you, you have the right to exert a certain amount of energy to get this back.
Now, you don't have the right to punch me in the mouth, but you can be like, Man, give me my phone back.
You know, and That's the world that I live in.
He didn't get prosecuted because this is in Sarasota.
They found out who her fiance was.
That's the Bubba factor right there.
That's how much they hate you.
And that motherfucker is the morning drive guy who shopped the tape and has been doing mornings for 12 years.
Right there.
Right the fuck there.
Bananas, man.
What a fucking crazy world.
What a bunch of fucking bullshit.
Viral Clips Across Every Platform00:15:00
And what did I do to be the bad guy?
Like you said earlier, I held people accountable.
I would bust politicians' balls.
I would stick up for the guy that was out there fucking painting like you.
I was the man's man, the people's hammer.
And you do that long enough, then you become a villain.
Eventually, I got canceled.
I got canceled.
I got canceled before canceling was a thing.
Fucking wild, man.
And the story, the documentary lays it all out perfectly.
Oh, yeah, all the evidence.
So, you watched it other than being a little bit long.
Did you like it?
Oh, yeah, I thought it was amazing.
I mean, and to think that they they used it to try to take a hack at Trump, yeah, that's crazy too.
I love how you had Roger Stone come in there, yeah.
Roger Stone did a great job.
Um, uh, I tried to get Tucker, but I couldn't coordinate with Tucker because I've had Tucker on my show for years.
Oh, yeah, you used to be on there all the time.
And you know, the thing about Tucker, I used to love Tucker.
I had Tucker on Tuesdays, Tucker Tuesdays, and this was this was for six years, yeah, and this really.
I'm kind of, I'm kind of, I've not really ever talked about this, but I'm really upset the fact that when Tucker got fired from MSNBC and he was just a small contributor on Fox and Friends in the morning twice or three times a week, I used to have Tucker on when he had no platform at all none, like none, no more MSNBC, nothing.
And we had Tucker Tuesdays and, you know, it was great.
And now Tucker won't have me on.
He just have you talked to him?
Yeah, I've tried and he just like, ah, you know, not you know, no, basically, no, that's so weird.
Yeah, and like I was just like, what the fuck did I do?
What the fuck did I do or have I done to make even Tucker not like me?
Yeah, I don't know.
Now, I know that there was a place called Media Matters, and when he was with Fox, they went and subscribed to my Bubba Army HQ.com, which has all my archives of everything I've ever done.
And this company called Media Matters went, and there's a pretty extensive search engine on Bub Army HQ where you could type in literally, you know, Matt Cox, and it would show you the show that Matt was on.
Well, Media Matters paid for a membership.
It's like $9.99 a month.
And they went and downloaded all 168 shows that Tucker was on.
And then they cherry picked it and kind of made a worst of Tucker tape.
That's when he was really, really big on Fox, when he was huge on Fox.
And they caused. quite a bit of a shitstorm for Tucker with regards to Fox.
They got a lot of advertisers to pull based on what he said on my radio show a decade earlier.
And that caused, I think, some dissension.
But I'm like, Tucker, that's not my fault.
You were on my show being yourself, talking about how Iranian women smelled like camels and just outrageous shit because at that point he wasn't beholding to anybody.
He didn't have to really watch what he so he would say, I live in Maine and I hate Canadians.
And if all Canadians that would be cool.
Just, you know, crazy shit.
Oh, my God.
And they use that against him and they got like Mercedes and some big companies to pull their advertising based on his appearance on my show.
And I think that Tucker still holds that against me.
And I didn't have anything to do with that.
I mean, you know, I mean, so.
I don't know.
I don't understand some of the drama between some of these OG talk show guys.
I mean, some of them fucking figured out the new media YouTube landscape and just fucking hit it, hit a home run with it.
Like Tucker, like as soon as he left Fox, he went on YouTube and just blew.
I mean, he's just killing it.
Crushing it, man.
But why would you forget about your buddy?
I don't know.
Why would you forget about your buddy that when you weren't shit, when you weren't even on NBC, you still had Tucker, your buddy still had Tucker Tuesdays?
Like, I don't understand.
Yeah, I don't understand it either, man.
I mean, you know, you're my friend.
Why do people hate me, Danny?
I don't know why people hate you, Bubba.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I wish I knew the answer.
I don't think Rogan hates you.
I think Rogan loves you.
I think Joe likes me too.
He loves everybody, man.
He's the type of dude who's not like that.
He's a tired guy who likes to share everything.
He likes to help boost people a lot.
Well, and I've never, oh my God, I've never said an ill word towards him.
In fact, I've borderline worshiped him just based on how well he's done and how he's become the new it factor.
And he's been the it factor for a long time.
Yeah.
I mean, and you know what?
It's only going to go away when he decides to wrap it up.
Right.
And how long do you even want to do it?
For it.
I think for Joe, I think Joe's going to want to do it for a long time because Joe's so good at it.
Yeah.
And he's such a conversationalist and he's got such a great compound that he can do it on his terms.
Yeah.
And you can hand select, you know, you're not ever hurting for guests because you are the absolute pinnacle of getting on the Joe Rogan show is the absolute pinnacle of media.
So I think Joe does it.
Maybe Joe will scale back a little bit.
You know, maybe as he gets older, he's like, hey, I only want to do, you know, twice a week or once a week or.
You know, I think he'll scale back before he quits.
I think he loves it too much.
Yeah.
I feel like he treats the podcast as like a warm up for his comedy.
Yeah.
I think they intertwine.
They definitely do.
They definitely intertwine.
And he can try new stuff out on the road.
And he's right there in Austin.
I think he's got his own joint now, doesn't he?
Yeah.
He's got his own joint.
So he's got kind of his, he's kind of made this Joe Rogan bubble, universe, this Joe Rogan universe bubble that, you know, he's got everything.
He's got a perfect setup.
Like, you know, nobody will ever.
Nobody ever will get to that status.
I don't think.
Until he leaves.
And at that point, you're just a Joe Rogan ripoff.
Well, I think whoever, I don't think, even if somebody is able to come up with the same amount of talent that he has, I don't think still anyone will ever be able to achieve what he did in media just because of the timing.
No, he had the perfect timing.
He had the perfect timing and he's got the perfect setup.
And let's not take the talent away from the fact that anybody can.
Get the set up and but you got to be talented and you got to be quick on your feet and you got to have the infrastructure and you got to.
I mean he didn't, this just didn't all come to him.
I mean, you know, don't forget, it wasn't too far removed from being on fear factor, which i'm sure he cringes at times, like oh my god, I didn't fucking fear factor.
Oh shit god, I look like a.
You know what.
I'm sure Joe sometimes cringes getting people to drink bull semen.
Yeah exactly, you know, you know.
I mean yeah, i'm sure he cringes at some of that early shit, but I mean nobody, nobody and he and and and i'm not.
I'm so thankful for the opportunity Howard gave me, but he has completely surpassed Howard.
Yeah.
And I don't.
And Howard doesn't like podcasting.
He likes to talk shit about Joe and podcasting all the time.
Yeah.
And I don't understand why Howard wouldn't give Joe his flowers because Joe has earned them.
Yeah.
The reason why is because Joe's surpassed him.
Right.
I mean, that's just the way it is.
That's the way it is.
And Howard's gone like super lefty woke.
Oh, Joe.
I mean, Howard, yeah.
He's he's and Joe's not Joe's still that American dude that's doing kettlebells, that's shooting his bow and arrow, that's looking for moose meat.
And although, I mean, Joe's still a dude that would get if he knew how to run an excavator, he would.
Yeah, Howard is so far removed from the average man.
And you know, the average dock worker, long shoreman back in the day used to like Howard.
Now they like Joe.
Yeah, Joe is the new it factor, and I don't see it going away until he quits.
I agree, and I don't ever see it.
being emulated to the way Joe's doing it.
Right.
Well, Bubba, this has been fucking amazing.
Thank you for coming in, dude.
And thank you for letting me watch your documentary early with the early release.
Thank you for pushing it.
And don't forget, it comes out today on okay, video killed the radio star on Apple.
Where else is it available?
Apple, Google Play, and Amazon.
Hell yeah.
Man, my wife was hot, wasn't she?
Smoking.
Send me the links.
I will put the links down below so people can find the documentary and download it.
And anything else would you tell people about your show, where to listen to you, where to tune in every day?
We're on YouTube like you guys are.
You know, we just hit 135,000 subscribers, which is a lot for us.
You probably remember those days.
Dude, can you remember when you were at 135 and you thought you were all that, bitch?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I remember.
That's where I'm at, and I'm not all that.
It starts snowballing.
It starts picking up speed.
Does it really?
Before you know it, you're at a million.
Yeah, please.
I couldn't even.
Look at that.
I mean, we got, yeah, I got some good stuff.
I mean, but I mean, how fast did it take you to get to a million?
A long time.
A long time.
I think I started, I really started.
Like, when does gasoline start getting poured on it?
Like, you know, like when, like if I'm at 135 now and, you know, the average.
Well, for me, the problem with it for me is I started doing different, I was doing documentary stuff first and then I started doing the podcast.
I didn't start doing the podcast until like 2019, but we were only doing like one or two podcasts a month.
Oh, that's it.
And that's it.
And then it was that one job.
Once we started doing one a week, Then it started to pick up more.
And now that we're doing two weeks, it's fucking going crazy.
So I think it's a lot about like the more you do, the faster it grows.
So we get every one of our daily shows up there.
And, you know, our daily shows are now getting, you know, like.
Look, you got the good thumbnails.
You guys got.
Yeah, I got a guy.
My new guy really.
And then he'll take each show and make reels.
Yeah, yeah, clips out of it.
Yeah.
Little, little, little minute, 57 second reels.
Listen to this.
I did hit an out.
Don't laugh at me because I'm way lower.
You know, I'm way low on the fucking digital.
Pecking scale than you are.
I couldn't be a pimple on your ass.
And I'm very, you know, as much as you used to listen to me back in the day, I'm honored and to call you a friend.
And I'm very, I was just telling Concrete Clem here when you were pissing, I go, I'm fucking proud of that kid.
Didn't I?
Yeah.
I mean, I said, I am proud of that kid.
He is fucking killing it.
But we, because I'm a little bit older, we also aggregate some of our stuff on Facebook too.
So, you know, every clip that we make, we figure we might as well put across all, you know, all, all, you know, we're on Rumble.
So if we make a clip, a 57-second clip, it'll go on Insta, it'll go on TikTok, it'll go on Facebook, it'll go on YouTube, it'll go everywhere.
And you guys clip them out and put them out instantly the same day, the same day you record.
Oh, yeah.
By the time the show's over, the first hour clips are done.
That's crazy.
So we're getting them out, but we hit it out.
And don't laugh at me, okay?
But we hit on Facebook, we hit a reel that did 91 million views.
Damn.
Holy shit.
And I mean, now is that, I mean, and it made like that, that clip made like 12 grand.
Hell yeah.
What?
How long was it?
57 seconds.
Oh my God.
And it was about me talking.
It was just like, it wasn't, I don't know if it was just hashtag right, but it obviously got put up on people's recommendation pages.
But we did 91.4 million views.
Which clip was that?
And it was just a clip about, it was about the cost of Super Bowl commercial ads.
And it was just something real.
And I think we hit a Super Bowl gimmick or something like that.
And, you know, I think that's pretty good.
That's really good.
I mean, I think that's.
I don't think I've ever gotten that many views on a clip.
So, and we've gotten, you know, we've gotten several clips that, you know, have done, you know, oh, hell, I think that Brooke Hogan clip right there has done on Facebook 465,000 views.
Wow.
So, I mean, you know.
And you're on TikTok and all that stuff.
Everything's at the Bubba Army.
Everything is at the Bubba Army, but TikTok doesn't pay shit.
No.
You do TikTok?
Yeah, we do the TikTok, but I don't pay attention to it.
But do you make that money?
I mean, you probably don't make it.
And Rumble doesn't really pay that well.
You know, you got YouTube.
And oddly enough, Danny, you're probably a little too young for it, but Facebook pays pretty good.
Does it really?
Yes.
Facebook pays.
We just actually started working with this company that's going to start posting our clips on Facebook because we never touch Facebook.
Listen, you could easily be pulling down an extra, this is probably short money for you, but you could probably pull down an extra $5,000 to $7,000 a month on Facebook.
If you start clipping, I'm making a note of it.
I got to hit up.
You really got to do that.
I got to email that guy.
That's your upper demos.
I mean, you know, and these upper, these 45 plus people are looking for good content because there's so much shitty stuff out there.
Yeah.
So, you know, when you, everything that you do, Danny, you should clip up and distribute across the platforms that are going to pay you the most.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're going to do that.
I mean, I know you put all your eggs in the YouTube basket, but there's a couple other baskets out there that could get you some flowers.
We've been, uh, Blowing up on Spotify lately.
Like, yeah.
Our Spotify numbers have been like equal or more than our YouTube numbers.
And they pay.
That goes through Songcast?
Well, no.
Our Spotify thing goes through Megaphone, this company called Megaphone.
And it's the same company.
So we have this company that sells our advertising, like our read ads that we do.
Right.
And they also collect all my Spotify money.
Right.
And then they cut me a check.
So I'm not sure exactly what the Spotify specific money is.
But I mean, you could get a bag from Facebook.
You could get a deal from a little bit.
Matt Cox is all over the Facebook stuff.
Oh, and I bet you, Matt.
I'd be willing to say that Matt Cox's Facebook money is fucking good.
I call it Matt Cox once a week.
I'm like, bro, tell me what you're doing.
I need to learn.
He teaches me stuff all the time about this stuff.
The guys, like I said earlier, I know he's got heat with me.