Mike Hengstebeck examines JFK assassination UFO rumors, Pentagon disclosures, and Brazilian special forces accounts of a crashed craft. He explores ancient elongated skulls, Nazi-alien collusion theories involving "Tall Whites," and Edward Snowden's alleged leaked documents, which he suspects are Russian disinformation. The discussion shifts to Alaska Bigfoot sightings, Skinwalker Ranch's electromagnetic anomalies, and the Navajo legend, questioning whether these phenomena represent genuine extraterrestrial contact or sensationalized television drama. Ultimately, the episode suggests that while evidence remains circumstantial, the convergence of military disclosures and indigenous lore challenges conventional understandings of human history and our place in the cosmos. [Automatically generated summary]
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Brazil Police UFO Crash00:07:58
So when you take someone, especially from the CIA perspective, because listen, you know and I know that every president that has ever gone into the office has asked about UFOs.
And obviously there's one rumor that it cost him his life with JFK.
Right.
So the people that came in, even when Trump was in office and they asked him about UFOs, Trump just went along with, I don't believe in it.
Trump just said that.
So that blew it off.
He didn't have to say anything else.
Why didn't he say something else?
Didn't he say like, oh, there's some interesting things going on?
I mean, he may have.
I actually heard him when he just said, I don't buy it.
Really?
I don't buy it.
And that blew the curve.
I mean, literally, like, okay, next question.
There wasn't any, like, were you going to look into it?
Are we going to open files up?
Yeah, he's like, I'm not buying it.
No, I'm not.
Nah, not at all.
No, he's not the type of guy.
Nah.
But again, I think that, you know, he's a businessman.
I think wherever your interests kind of lie.
How can I make money off aliens?
That's exactly.
Boring.
Bingo.
At the end of the day, it does nothing for me.
Yeah.
So, you take into consideration that he really wasn't pushing to have any information released other than what took place here, like I say, in the last probably five or six months with the Pentagon now saying they're going to release this information, which they need to do.
They should have done it.
before now.
And it's going to open the eyes, I think, of a lot of people.
There'll still be the people out there that are still going to be hesitant to believe.
But obviously humanity is changing.
We're growing.
I don't know if it's in a good way or a bad way.
Right now, the politicians have figured out a way to make us all hate each other.
So nobody, it's not an open politicians and the media.
They did.
They have.
They've done a great job at making us just despise each other.
When you look at some of the interesting things that are going on, I'd rather have a conversation about what I see in the sky tonight rather than hating somebody in another country because they don't like our politics.
Right.
So I want to keep that door open.
You know, again, I like to talk to other countries and figure out, hey, what are you guys seeing over there?
Is it real?
I mean, you know, when we talked about Rio de Janeiro in Brazil and that incident that took place with the UFO crashed here.
Yeah, that's what we talked about in the last podcast you came in on.
And they found more and more information out.
Now there's more information on YouTube that's about it.
They were able to move the vehicle, though, after it crashed.
There's nothing there now, but there was definitely something that crashed there.
Brazil has a long, long history with UFOs.
Yeah, I've seen a lot of things on TV and a lot of things on the internet about UFOs and aliens and stuff in Brazil.
Which is crazy because at the end of the day, I don't think about them being there.
But when you talk to, they would go over and they would interview some of these people and talk about their experiences.
It's one thing to sit there and make up a story.
It's another thing while you're telling a story to be absolutely terrified out of your mind.
In my eyes, looking at some of the folks that are telling the stories, it just doesn't seem it doesn't seem like they're lying.
It doesn't seem like it's a fake story.
And then, like I say, when you take into consideration different politicians that are getting involved now, for me, again, was more interesting.
I told you when we went through this thing to figure out what had crashed in Brazil, I've got some friends of mine here that are former police officers from there who deal with a group called BOPE.
Oh, yeah.
And they're the guys that actually confirmed it for us.
So it wasn't a, you know, sort of, hey, we think we've got something crashed here.
They confirmed it.
Hey, no, we've got a crashed vehicle here, dude.
And it's not from any place we know.
And, oh, by the way, America's here also.
Helping us out.
So, and this, who?
Who was the dude from Bope who you talked to?
Um, this is a group here in Florida i'm a little adamant to even bring the guy's name up.
Um, one of one of the guys was one of my little CIA buddies I was telling you about earlier.
Okay um, they came, they moved here to this country about five years ago after they retired, and the reason they did that?
From Brazil, from Brazil.
Okay um, I mean, I think the last before they moved here, one of the guys had killed 11 people in his neighborhood, Jesus.
So when they came here, we do a thing every year called sniper craft here and they came down and would participate.
They always took first place.
The guys were very accomplished shooters across the board.
Sniper competition?
It was a sniper competition called Sniper Craft here in Central Florida.
And they would come down every year for that.
So I got to know these guys really, really well.
These aren't UFO guys.
These are all kind of meat eater, knuckle draggers.
Knuckle draggers, meat heads.
Yeah, I mean, they're special operations.
Yeah, completely.
Matter of fact, they initially, when they won here, they won the event.
The State Department, because he had killed 11 people, wanted more information on him, thinking maybe he's a terrorist or coming from some sort of other background other than a law enforcement background.
How does he, what is he like, does he tell everybody he killed 11 people or is that like a, is that like a, like a?
No, I mean, it's just a reality of what it is.
His wife, when I went over there, his wife was actually wearing a gun as she was vacuuming the house.
And I kind of made a joke like, hey, what's that all about?
And she goes, how did he get away with killing 11 people, by the way?
Well, I mean, he's, first of all, he's a police officer.
Okay.
So there are no civil rights in Brazil.
Right.
So they give you an order.
If you don't pay attention, they shoot you.
Instantly, so he's a police officer in Brazil.
So every person he killed was documented somehow.
Oh, yeah, it's not just him being like, Yo, bro, no, no, no, no, it's it's it's it's in the middle of his job, yeah, what's going on, yeah, absolutely.
No, they he's not like I say, just out killing people, he's not just bragging about it.
Bingo, bingo, and and these are these are numbers that are necessary for us to know because when he comes into the U.S., the State Department wants to know who are you, okay, why are you here?
Because I can promise you, if the State Department gets in touch with Brazil and the authorities there, and they said, Hey, we'd like to look at his record, and they went back and said, Hey, You killed 31 people in the last six years.
Why didn't you tell us that?
So he just comes here and immediately volunteers that information because they're going to find that out and they're going to start asking questions as to why you didn't.
So to get a green card here was tough for these guys because of that.
They did extensive background on, there's six of them that came here.
They were afraid they were going to get killed in Brazil if they stayed there.
That's how bad it is.
Just because of all of the trouble.
I mean, it's not your normal white collar type, you know, gangs that are marauding around.
He always had to worry about his wife getting killed.
Being a cop in Brazil is very good.
Correct.
And these guys just aren't cops.
The name of the group they're with is called GARA.
They're actually a real high-end SWAT guys.
BOPE are above them.
They're more like special operations guys.
Okay.
So they are not liked.
When GARA shows up, bad things are about to go left real quick.
Okay.
So when I called those guys, because when I first heard this rumor that this crash had happened in Rio de Janeiro, I called one of my guys that was a retired captain out there.
He didn't even know about it.
He's like, nah, I don't know.
Dude, what?
What are you talking about?
I said, nothing?
Nothing.
So when I called the other guys, and they actually called Boat, and I was told that Boat was the one that had the perimeter secure, making sure that nobody else was allowed to get near it.
And they confirmed it.
Oh, yeah, dude, we're there now.
We've got it surrounded, whatever it is.
So it wasn't a maybe or a guess or maybe an airplane.
It was some sort of craft that had come down now.
Dude, was it a satellite?
I couldn't tell you that.
How fucking crazy does it have to be if you traveled all the way here from another universe and you fucking crash your vehicle?
And listen, it's funny you say that because I was the same way.
There was talk of what actually brought down the Roswell during that crash.
And somebody said it was actually radar, new radar they were using and actually brought it down.
There's some now people today that are saying that's not true.
What they did was they believed that every part of the world was given a piece of equipment to see how fast they could take it apart.
and figure out what's making this thing really work.
This way, if it's the aliens that are running the show, they'll really find out who the smart people are real quick.
So do you base, you figure out, okay, these people are smart.
These people aren't smart.
Do we get rid of them now?
Do we start a pandemic?
Do we kill off this group right here?
Do we, you know, the Black Plague?
Blood Types and Plague00:02:28
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Was it blood type specific?
Well, that was the question.
And they said because it has to have been studies didn't kill.
Well, nobody knew blood types back then.
Okay.
They didn't know there was an A, B, and O.
And so they weren't transfusing blood.
I don't even know when that was.
But yeah, at what point, I'm sure, I can't even remember myself as to when it came back.
I want to say it was in the, like, 1910, 1912 when they started to realize there were some differences in the blood.
Can you pull up, like, Black Plague Wikipedia?
Yeah, that'd be insane.
So they started saying, so how come it didn't kill everybody?
And he goes, the guy that was kind of came up with it goes, if you think a flea was jumping off rats and giving people the black plague, he goes, it was something else bigger going on.
And whether these people weren't, hey, we figured out all this new, you know, this X-type blood, these people aren't very smart.
Let's just eliminate them and we'll make a disease that's specific to that.
Because what's interesting with even with COVID, I've heard people say, oh, if you have type A.
Well, that was in the beginning, right?
They were talking about that.
Type A blood.
Certain type of blood types, you get fucked up by it and certain types you're.
Ace dramatic.
So it's, it's, it stopped talking about that, though, like in March of last year.
Right.
I mean, so is it the people now, too, that I find interesting that are getting sick after they've had their shots?
They go, oh, it's the COVID.
I'm like, well, how do you know it wasn't the shot?
Let's go back to Bope and Gara and then when that thing crashed.
Oh, black, the black death.
Massive Tower Mystery00:08:22
Does it say from 1346?
It was occurring in Afro.
Eurasia?
Euroasia?
From 1934 or from 1346 to 1353.
The most fatal pandemic recorded in human history causing deaths of 75 to 200 million people in Eurasia and North Africa.
Why didn't it wipe out everybody?
That's a lot of fucking people.
200 million.
I didn't think it was that many people.
Yeah, all in like, uh, Western Europe and Asia and top in the top of North Africa.
Yeah, because I don't think we weren't really here.
Yeah, 1346 to 1353.
So, did everybody start using PPE?
Seven years.
Did everybody start using PPE back then and all of a sudden it went away?
200 million people.
But where'd it go?
How does it just go away?
How did it wipe out everybody?
Because back then you weren't taking baths, there was no hygiene.
I mean, how many people could there have possibly been in 1346?
43.
I certainly didn't think 200 million killed 200 million.
There's what 300 million in the US something like that.
Yeah, right now it's exactly I think we're a little over that but yeah, you're you're damn right So that that in itself.
It's a weird number.
200 million seems like everybody in 1300s.
Would have been dead.
So, you know, again, so is that specific?
Are they trying to wipe certain groups out?
You know, when you look at when they went into the pyramids, I was in Egypt in 1983.
And when I got to go into the pyramids.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, I was there.
It was in Lebanon.
What were you doing there?
So I was with the Navy.
Okay.
So I was actually making a pass through that one of the groups I needed to train with was there.
It was for, I was becoming a gunner's mate.
And so the guys I needed to train with were there.
They closed the facility down in South America.
So I ended up there.
So I was there.
I was like taking full advantage of, hey, let me go out and check everything out.
Oh, so you were into this shit way back in the 80s.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Well, again, when looking at the pyramids, dude, when you're there looking at them and you're like, dude.
Is that what sparked this whole thing for you?
I think it was before you went there.
No, I've always had a thing for extraterrestrials.
I'll tell you a story I haven't really told anybody before except maybe my wife.
I was 13, man.
We were living here in Florida.
And I got woke up one night and something was in my room with me.
And it was actually more than one, it was five or six of these little things were in the room that, They had put my raincoat on and were dancing around the room, scared the bejesus out of me.
The strange thing was that I wanted to yell for my mom.
I don't know why I wanted to scream for my mom, but I could not talk.
I was absolutely stunned.
Dude, I was petrified, first of all, the fact that these things were in my room doing what they were doing.
I've never had a nightmare in my life other than that one.
And dude, I was 13.
Here I am.
I'm almost 60 now.
I'm still talking about it.
So whatever it was that happened that night in my room was not just a nightmare.
It was there was something in my room.
They were like all head, very short, big heads, but not big round heads, like almost like a log.
A log?
Like a log.
Like a vertical log?
Like a vertical log.
They had a long head, but it was, again, like a log.
Like the aliens you see on TV?
No, they weren't like they were nothing like that at all, bro.
There was no big head, big eyes, none of that.
These were very short, maybe five feet tall, and kind of clumsy looking, walked kind of clumsy, but had these massive heads that were kind of round.
probably, you know, I don't know what that 36 inches around, but short.
Not like your typical alien.
I really didn't know about aliens then.
I mean, and I really wasn't afraid of ghosts.
13.
Yeah.
So it wasn't like I was afraid of anything in my room.
I really had never had experiences like that before.
And whatever this came in my room, dude, like I say, changed me forever as far as, you know, making me think I'm safe or I'm not safe or, you know, what's good or what's bad or what's evil, what's not.
And so I started to look at things like, well, there's obviously something bigger going on here.
What were these?
So you just woke up randomly and you saw these.
Dude, they were in my room.
Shapes?
These things?
They were dancing around my bed.
Shadowy things?
They weren't so much shadowy as they were short and very small.
Like I said, maybe five foot tall, four and a half foot tall.
Is there a color to them or anything?
You know, it was dark in the room, so I really couldn't tell, other than one of them.
And again, this sounds so ridiculous, but one of them picked up my raincoat and put it on.
Your raincoat?
I had a raincoat that was on the back of a chair.
And he put on the raincoat and was kind of dancing around my bed in it.
Kind of almost like, I'm scaring you.
You know, I'm like, Jesus Christ, you're just. terrifying the shit out of me.
Yeah.
But again, dude, it's strange because like I say, here I am.
How long did it last for?
You know, it seemed like minutes, maybe 10 minutes, 15 minutes.
I don't remember what I did the next day.
I don't remember if I told my mom about it.
I don't remember if, you know, but the fact that it happened, like I say, I've never been that terrorized before in my life ever.
I mean, I've never had a terror.
I've never had a nightmare.
So to still remember that today, you know, listen, was this a UFO event?
I don't know, but it was certainly something odd.
It was definitely something paranormal for sure.
I don't see things today at my age, like, oh, I saw things around the house today.
So it's not like one of those events.
And along with other, obviously other things that I've seen that make you go, wait a minute.
What is, how come I'm looking at this?
Coming home one day, I saw something at the top of a radio tower.
Matter of fact, if you're going over the Ganny Bridge here in Tampa towards McDill, and there was something at the top of the tower.
And it was massive.
And it looked like a football, but it was gray.
And what was interesting was the cord that was attached at the top had slack in it.
This tower is about 500 feet tall.
The tower is still there.
It's about 500 feet tall.
I know that 500 feet above the ground, dude, the wind is blowing pretty good.
So to have slack between the rope, between the tip of the tower and whatever this thing was that was floating up there was odd.
And I looked at it coming over the Howard Franklin Bridge.
I stared at it.
I'm thinking, this is 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
Everybody can see that.
Right.
It's not like I'm the only guy that's seeing this.
Does anybody else want to know what the hell it was?
Well, I kind of did what everybody else did.
I played it off and drove home, but I couldn't get it off my mind.
I kept thinking, what was that?
So here we are, this is, I don't know, 12 years later now, 13 years later.
And they have built, in that time, they built a condominium there.
Now, I could never tell how big this thing was at the top of the tower when I saw it.
I just guesstimated how big it was.
They built a 10-story condominium complex.
And what I realized was this thing was as big as that 10-story condominium complex that I can still see as you're coming over the Howard Franklin Bridge.
So I can see the tower.
The thing that was above the tower?
That was above the tower was as big as a 10-story building.
Which is, it's free.
I mean, doesn't this sound crazy?
Yeah.
It sounds, I have a, when you come over to sometime, I'll show it to you.
I actually have a drawing of it.
It was so impressive.
Really?
I did a drawing of it because I didn't want to forget what I saw.
I even went to the facility where this is.
Now, there's a big gate around it.
There's a, you know, you have to press a button to talk to somebody.
Probably about three weeks later because I was still thinking about it.
So I pressed the button and the guy's like, yeah, all the deliveries are around back.
I said, no, listen, I just have a question.
What do you guys do here?
And he's like, sir, you want to do me a favor?
Get away from the fence.
Where was this?
This is at that facility right there off Gandhi.
Oh, really?
Dude, I was three weeks later.
I was still thinking about it.
Did you find out what this facility did?
I have no idea what they do, bro.
Is it still there?
It's still there.
It's massive.
It's massive.
Whatever they do.
On this side of the Gandhi?
It's on this side of the Gandhi.
It's the only 500-foot tower there.
There's two other towers that are right down by the beginning of the bridge as you're going towards McDill.
Yeah.
This is before that.
Still there.
You'll see the facility to the right.
It's got a huge fence around it.
There's all kinds of cables, and they're using lots of power.
But I have no idea.
And the guy just basically said, listen, I saw something at the top of your tower here about three weeks ago, and I I could tell the way the guy was talking to me.
He's like, look, you're a nut.
Get away from my yeah.
Get away.
So, like I said, this was four o'clock in the afternoon.
So I know that people had to have seen this.
There's no way they could not have seen this.
And yet, whether it was just kind of hiding in plain sight, you know, those were the things that sparked my interest because I'm going, what is it I'm looking at?
Yeah.
Why isn't anybody else doing the same thing going, what is that?
You know, the same thing when we saw that ball or whatever it was in the video, I saw it with my peripheral vision.
Yeah.
What is it?
Military Skulls and Nukes00:15:38
So you scratch your head, you try to make heads or tails of it again.
When I was in in Egypt, one of the things I asked the guy i'm like, hey man, let me ask you a question, how did they carve all this stuff in here?
And he goes, oh well, we're you know, we're still kind of addressing that.
No no, I mean there's no lights.
What did they use there'd be?
And if you did, you go inside the pyramids.
We went inside the pyramids, did you?
And what was really cool about it was because the guy started telling us about the lack of oxygen in there.
Right, so you couldn't.
You couldn't burn fire in there then, because you'd burn up all the oxygen.
And the funny thing was, believe it or not, I mean, it smelled like urine.
I'm like, hey, dude, why does it smell like peeing here?
Because a lot of the workers that are working here don't want to walk all the way out, so they pee inside the pyramid.
He goes, you're looking into an area where most people don't get to go.
Wow.
Which is very cool because we were military guys and he just thought, hey, we also paid him for this.
So it was very, very cool.
But again, so you're looking at these 80 to 100 foot walls that are, dude, smooth.
They go together.
You can't get a credit card in between them.
And yet there's no power.
It's not like a plug.
You weren't in there figuring out, oh, this is how I'm going to carve this out in the dark.
Right.
And then, like I say, if you throw all the other things that go into it, the elongated skulls that some of the emperors and the priests had within the Egyptian family.
And they're trying to say, well, they did that through binding where they actually bound their heads and made the skull long.
Right.
He goes, okay, let's just say they did that.
Why did they do that?
They're trying to emulate something.
And they said, if you look at these long elongated skulls, they found three of them in Peru.
The skulls are 40% larger.
They're 25% heavier.
And they've got no, it's called a sarcasm line that runs down the center of everything.
Sarcasm?
Sarcasm line.
And it runs through the top of the skull.
And basically, when you're an infant, it's a soft spot so that your head comes together.
Forms right there's like a T joint there.
Bingo!
Well, every human has that.
These skulls they found do not have that, they also don't have any mitochondria DNA, which again is huge.
You would think that everybody would know that.
I think at least it's huge.
Yeah, that proves to you right there.
These are not human skulls, they're called the uh, uh, Maraca skulls, Maraca skulls, or maybe it's the Paracas, the Paracas skulls.
Could it have been like some sort of animal, maybe?
Well, I mean, now you just said that.
Some guys are asking if these maybe they were Bigfoots.
Oh, really?
Because of the shape of the skulls.
Oh, my God.
Again, a whole subject heading to the whole UFO thing.
Well, yeah, I don't know.
What do you think about Elon saying he has never seen or doesn't even believe that he's never seen any kind of UFO?
He's never had any kind of hint of alien beings.
And he's the guy that's fucking scouring the heavens.
Hey, I think that there's a lot of people out there that haven't seen him.
If you're not looking for him, If it's not something you're interested in, I don't think you're going to see him.
Right.
You know, now whether he's interested in that or not.
Well, that's a good point.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Is do you think it's only.
Oh, look at that.
Dude, there they are.
Holy shit.
There they are, dude.
Look at that fucking thing.
Dude, they're 40% bigger and 25% heavier.
What's that thing called?
Go to the top.
Ancient Peruvians gave themselves elongated skulls as a mark of status.
Many heads from pre Inca societies.
Are teardrop shaped, the result of infants' heads being bound while they are forming.
Wow.
You can see on top, it does have those cracks in it.
Now, this skull does.
If you go through, put it in a Paracus UFO skulls.
See if that pulls up.
Paracus?
Paracus.
How do you spell that?
P E R A C U S, maybe?
Yeah.
Because those skulls, the lines aren't in that skull.
For people out there who are just listening, we're looking at a picture of this old.
By the way, we got a.
Bitching new TV in the podcast studio.
So make sure you tune into the video version because we can see everything now.
Yeah, it's all visual.
So when you start seeing this kind of stuff here that goes on, when you start looking at, again, a lot of the Egyptologists now are starting to turn and look at a lot of the information now.
You know, we talked about the Anunnaki earlier, and the Anunnaki and the Sumerians were the two that were working hand in hand.
And when you look at the Sumerians, They're an interesting group because they were.
Who are the Sumerians?
The Sumerians are really one of the first civilizations ever on the planet, recorded history.
Really?
And they are responsible for the Anunnaki being here.
And they worked hand in hand, again, to go back and to gather all this gold up.
One of the things I always was interesting when I was in South America, I was obviously doing drug interdiction then.
And they used to talk about all the gold they had there.
Well, where did it all go?
Who got it all?
And why aren't they still there looking for it today?
There was so much gold that was throughout South America because no one seems to be looking for it other than, you know, when they find these new locations now where they think that the Maya may have lived.
They're now using these new, shoot what they're called.
They can actually fly over now and it takes off the first layer of trees and lets them see right down to the ground.
What?
Yeah.
This is a thing now.
They can actually fly over it.
I can't believe I can't think of the name of it.
Give me a second here.
I'll think of it.
But they actually can, it's like taking pictures and as they fly over it, it removes all of the overbrush.
So you can now see buildings and they can see cities and they see courtways and roads that they could never see before.
And they found like 42 more pyramids.
South America has more pyramids, believe it or not, than Egypt has.
Right.
And Mexico, too, right?
Bingo.
Bingo.
So they're now finding all these places.
And again, they all have some sort of astrological meaning.
Everything is facing a certain way or has a hole where the sun shines through at certain periods of time.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, back then before electricity, the stars and the sun and the moon must have had so much more of an astrology.
So much more of an impact on people.
Well, look at even today.
Look at our Sagittarius and our Capricorns.
And, you know, we're still looking all into our horoscopes.
Yeah, yeah, we still are obsessed with them.
You know, we are.
Everybody's just obsessed with them.
I mean, dude, when you really think about it and you think about how this, the Mayans were the only group that were able to figure out that the Earth has a wobble.
Yeah, that's fucking wild.
I mean, come on, man.
How do you figure that out?
And without somebody helping you to understand there's a wobble, nobody else picked up on it.
I mean, and I don't think that the Mayans were that smart.
They're not obviously.
Rocket scientist, you know.
So, was someone there with them, helping them through this time?
Fingerprints of the Gods.
That's the name of the book.
Fingerprints of the Gods.
By Graham Hancock, that basically told me about all this stuff.
Yes.
That guy's dedicated his life to this stuff.
Completely.
Yeah.
Completely.
And listen, I'm trying to think of this.
There's another guy that when he first came out with this, people thought he was nuts.
What is this guy?
He's a little foreign guy.
I'm thinking of his name now.
But he came out initially, he wrote a book, The Gods.
The Gods.
Anyway, he came out and said that this all started at that particular point in time with aliens, with extraterrestrial beings.
And that's how life is set up.
That's what we've always been a part of.
Nobody can tell us why, though.
I want to know why.
Again, are we just a bug here that's producing carbon dioxide for the planet?
Is there a bigger picture for us?
I mean, we're so interested in killing each other and doing harm to each other.
And again, I don't know if that's part of the bigger plan.
Isn't that crazy, though?
Carbon dioxide.
You know all the carbon dioxide is supposed to be so bad, but it's.
It's really giving life to all the trees and plants and and the tree is all the vegetation dude.
The tree is the most important element on the planet.
It absolutely does everything we need to do.
You can build with it and keep you warm, and there's not another product on the planet that does that for you.
I mean, you know, other than some brush and whatnot.
But if you, if you're truly looking at trees for what they are um, if you look at the onslaught of trees throughout, especially through South America, They're clear, cutting the forest down.
So now, are these aliens, these visitors, are they watching that?
Is that why Brazil all of a sudden has this onslaught of craft?
Whoa, now you're connecting some serious dots here.
You see what I'm saying?
So you're damaging the planet?
Well, we're not going to let you damage the planet.
The same thing with, as we test nuclear devices, there's well, yeah, there's a book called UFOs and Nukes that a guy named Robert Hastings, I've been trying to get him on here, but he's not in good health right now and he can't travel.
Oh, bummer.
He did that whole book basically studying and detailing all the events of UFO sightings over the nuclear bases, shutting down the nuclear bases.
Completely shutting them down.
And these guys not knowing what to do, they actually have had, it's called Bentwaters in England, where they didn't have a crash.
They had one land.
And the commanding officer who was at a Christmas party was actually, this was the second night they had the event.
The first night they had it, they told, they reported it, all the security personnel.
These are all military guys, all well-trained military guys on a nuclear facility, I might add.
So this is an everyday guys.
They saw it that night.
They reported it, but they didn't want to say really what they thought it was.
They just thought it was some sort of down aircraft.
The next night it came back.
They went there to go get him and actually brought him back.
And these guys actually touched it, put their hands on it.
One of the other sergeants actually saw it fly above the area where these, he said, we can't tell you if there's actually nuclear devices there, but it flew over this one bay, dropped a laser down, went through the roof and into the actual facility, didn't detonate anything, but rendered that bomb that was in there useless for 24 hours.
We couldn't use it for that period of time.
We don't know what they did to it or how they did it.
So, again, we were looking at military guys who aren't trying to start a story.
They were trying to protect a base and not able to do it.
So, and now if you go back and start doing research on it, every nuclear base has had some sort of extraterrestrial.
So again, are we back to the, listen, we're going to watch what you guys do to the planet.
We can't have you testing this stuff.
Yeah.
It's not good for the planet.
It's, you know, bad mojo.
Have you ever heard of atomic veterans?
I have not.
So I forget what it was called, but it was during that period of time where over in, I believe, England, as well as here in the U.S., they would recruit.
Young military kids, like kids like 18, 19, 20 years old.
They would recruit them.
They would put them on combat vessels, like aircraft carriers or some shit like that, some sort of ships.
They would bring them out into the ocean and they were testing nukes.
And they were using U.S. military, kids that had enlisted in the military as young as 18 years old, putting them on these ships and they were testing nukes.
And basically what they would do is before they would detonate the nuke into the ocean, they would make everyone face the other way and they would tell everyone to cover their eyes.
And there was a lot of people who were a part of this testing and it fucked them all up for life.
Like lots of them got cancer and died.
Majority of them could never have kids.
They all explained vividly like what it was like, how like they had to take off all their clothes after and like dispose of all their clothes.
A lot of them started losing their teeth.
Wow.
They like when the thing detonated, they described seeing all.
Even though their eyes were closed and they had their hands over their eyes facing the opposite way, they all could account for seeing, even though their eyes were closed, they saw the skeleton of their bones in their hands when it happened.
And it fucked these people up.
Some of them are still alive and they've done interviews with these guys.
I just watched an interview that this kid did where he, it was a documentary he did where he interviewed probably a dozen of these guys.
And it is the most terrifying fucking thing.
Well, here's the strange part about that.
On every aircraft carrier that I was ever on, they talk about what happens if a nuke detonates under the boat and what you're supposed to do.
Oh, really?
So that's, and they, that obviously confirms what you're saying because they know what to do because they've already done it and they understand what happens.
Because what initially happens to the bottom of the ship is the floors buckle.
If your feet are touching the floor, you're probably going to get killed because the way that the ship comes up, the ground up comes up so quick that it would shatter the bones in your body.
So they tell you to grab the superstructure above you and get your feet off the deck.
So that would make perfect sense.
But again, listen, when you're in the military, you're expendable and you're part of the deal.
We took shots before going to Spain.
They were detonating these nukes like, like, like.
Probably miles away from the ship.
Sure.
I couldn't imagine what it would be like if a nuke detonated under them.
Under the ship.
Like a sub or something.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
It's just ridiculous all the way around.
To even think you would survive it, first of all, because we always kind of laugh.
I'm like, what?
Is that really going to be the biggest thing on our mind?
Like, get your feet off the deck.
Right, right.
You know, a nuke's gone off underneath us.
I don't think if we even heard the nuke, I'd be surprised.
Right, right.
So, like I say, to see that go on, listen, even when I was on the USS Lexington, which was a training vessel, it's actually still had a wooden deck, believe it or not.
out of Pensacola, Florida.
And we would go out for six weeks and then come back in.
And all of the pilots came from Corpus Christi, Texas.
And so they would fly out there and meet us and they would do all their landing ops and we would train them how to land on boats.
And so behind the ship one night, and I was standing back there, and they actually call it phytoplankton that would turn green and come out from the bottom of the ship.
And these big green balls of light would get shot out of the bottom of the ship.
This would have been the very rear of the ship called the fantail.
And I would stand back there at night when I was off and just kind of enjoy the evenings and these big green balls.
So now, even today, I'm like, were those really?
What were those I was looking at that were in the water?
There's lots of bioluminescent sea life, especially far out in the Gulf like that.
And listen, you've seen them along the shoreline, especially on heavy waves come in.
Okay, so it was that color.
But these were big balls, dude.
I mean, like three or four cars.
You know, if you put them all together and put a ball around that big, they were huge.
So it wasn't like a film with the top of the water.
It was something that was being shot, almost like something was playing like in the, in the, in the draft of the ship.
Hmm, Like I say monster, I mean, this is an aircraft carrier, so it gives you an idea.
It's a big boat.
I'm sure there were any guys like fishing, like dragon lines behind the boat, like you can't, because that's how you, that's how you catch.
What's it called?
I Think it's swordfish, sailfish.
Yeah no no, swordfish.
Is it swordfish swordfish?
You only fish for it at night.
Oh, drop on your line when you're.
When you're fishing for them.
You drop these fucking night sticks.
What are they called?
The glow in the dark sticks?
Yeah yep, Yep.
We actually used to tie our clothes and put them on ropes and hang it over the side if we had to wash them sometimes because they didn't have any fresh water on the boat.
So they would say, hey, wash your clothes on the side.
Oh, that's fucking crazy.
That doesn't sound like a very good way to get your clothes clean.
Not unless you like that salt water.
Yeah, right.
At least they didn't stink, so that was the plus side of it.
How far out into the ocean or how far offshore did the boats go?
I mean, you wouldn't see shore.
Right.
You wouldn't see shore, so you'd be probably out in the middle of the Gulf.
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Okay.
Especially if planes were coming from Texas.
Yeah, well, and they were, listen, they wanted to give the guys a full experience.
So, you know, obviously as a ship pitches and rolls, That's the hard part for the pilot coming in to land.
So, as the ship pitches and rolls and tries to do what it's doing, so they would put us in the deepest part of the water to try to get the ship to emulate that because we were a small aircraft carrier compared to what they were going to be landing on once they made the fleet.
So, even again, going back and look at these guys that witnessed these UFOs throughout, actually up and down the East Coast of Florida, they were all on, I think they were on the USS Carl Vinson.
Did you give us a video of that one, too?
The one's on the East Coast?
No, no, no.
That was the one that was on the.
On the plane radar.
I think the one that Lieutenant Gray saw was the gimbal.
I think there's some video on it.
It's called the gimbal.
Yeah.
And that was the one that ATIP came out and said, hey, we're going to show you this one and we're going to show you the other one from David.
Fravor.
Fravor.
Yeah.
So, and those guys have come out, I mean, full-fledged.
They weren't, they've not been told, hey, don't talk about this.
He said we weren't ever told not to discuss it.
And so here we are.
We're having this discussion.
Other than now that the Pentagon has said, hey, we have been dealing with crashed UFO material.
They've come short of not saying aliens.
They just said UFO.
So it's unidentified, which could be anything at that point.
Is it the Russians?
Could be.
You know, they think that they found one of their bells.
It was called a Russian bell back in the 60s in Pennsylvania.
It was a big to-do.
You know, again, it was a bell.
It was like a bell.
And they said that it had hieroglyphics on the side of it.
And that some people believed it was for time travel.
But they didn't know if it was from the Germans.
Because the Germans, dude, the Germans were way ahead of everybody.
And they came out, if you look at their technology, dude, they were way ahead of everybody.
And I think that they even say they even had it.
And they've got video of it, of an extraterrestrial craft or a UFO flying that they're flying.
The question is, is it real?
And that's always the question.
He goes, the guys go, well, it looks like it's kind of a heavily populated area.
Why would you fly it there?
You know, it doesn't make sense to where you would.
But yet, if the Americans got this at the time that they took, I think that we found the first jet engine there because the Germans had already developed a jet engine.
And we hadn't done that yet.
They did it first.
They did it first.
Yeah.
And the flying wing, like the B-50, or not the B-52s, the new bombers, the stealth bombers.
Yeah.
They already had that.
We got that technology from them.
From the Germans.
They were way ahead of a game on that.
So um, even you know, there's people that talk about Hitler wanting the tall, you know the blonde hair, blue-eyed guys yeah, so if you look at the Americans who uh, the um Paul Hillier says from from Canada he's the defense minister there, Paul Hillier.
Paul Hillier, he said that we were dealing with the tall whites.
He said that, oh yeah, what does he mean by tall white?
What is this tall white thing?
Well, supposedly these are very um uh, very tall, very Anglo looking, kind of um Nordic aliens And they've been dealing with them for the last 10 years.
I've actually heard of these before.
And the current sitting defense minister of Canada.
He's not no longer involved in politics.
He's out of politics now.
That's why he'll come here and talk about it.
He was part of the project disclosure that came out.
And he's the one who said UFOs are as real as the planes flying over your house.
No doubt about it.
And America's been dealing with the tall whites for the last 10 years.
And who these tall whites were, I'm like, can you say that today?
Really?
Yeah.
What's this guy's name?
His name is Paul Hellier.
Can you look at this guy?
Yeah.
It's H E L L Y E R. Paul.
First name Paul.
And he's the former Canadian Minister of Defense.
H E L L I E R?
No, Y E R. Y E R. Hellier.
So he says America's been dealing with the tall whites, which are some sort of aliens.
Which are some sort of alien group that says.
Has anybody corroborated this claim?
Well, I'm sure that they did the same thing even when I was watching it.
That's him as a young man right there.
He's an older guy now.
Search like Paul Hillier Tall Whites.
Yeah, Paul Hillier Project Disclosure.
But even as, like I said, as we move forward, they're just all these stories cannot.
The text is so small.
I should have got a bigger TV.
It's a great TV, by the way.
Thank you.
I just can't read the text.
I mean, I can, but it's so small.
When you take into consideration that guys like this who he's not doing this for money.
He's not looking for how old is this guy when was he born?
He's probably in his 70s now.
Yeah, I mean, he still seems relatively with it.
He's 19.
He was 40 in 1969.
Visitors from outer space, real or not, are focus of discussion in Washington.
Posted March 3rd, 2013.
While President Obama was promoting an immigration overhaul in Mexico, six former members of Congress gathered.
Two blocks from the White House to consider what they see as the enforced government security surrounding another kind of visitor, the kind who come from a lot farther away.
I don't see anything about this guy.
Check the actual name of it.
His name is Paul Hellier.
Paul Hellier.
Yeah, H E L Because he sat in on this when he was with this group, so I would be surprised he's not mentioned in there.
Aha, there he is right there.
Is that him?
Mike Gravel, former senator.
No, that's not him then.
Kind of looks like him.
Huh.
Well, I don't know.
I've heard about these tall whites.
Yeah, like I say, man, it's interesting.
And here recently, I just watched a show where they were talking about the moon.
The moon's got some odd things about it.
See if you can find anything about tall whites.
Yeah, put extraterrestrials, tall whites.
Anything about tall whites.
Anything that looks legit.
That's not on like, you know.
Well, the program I was watching last night, they showed how in 1964, they flew a lunar lander into the moon because they didn't know what the moon was made of.
Right.
They didn't know, hey, we're landing.
It's just dust.
Right.
So they crashed a lunar lander in it, and the moon rang like a bell for like an hour, almost two hours.
The moon rang like a bell.
What?
And they couldn't understand why that rang like a bell.
Iran says tall white space aliens control America.
There you go.
Iran.
Holy shit.
But this is on Forbes.
Documents leaked by the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden conclusively prove that the United States has been ruled by a race of tall white space aliens who also assisted the rise of Nazi Germany in the 1930s.
These revelations about our alien overlords might not cost you any sleep, but the part that should concern you a tad is that the UFO story was just published by the Fars News Agency, the English language news service of Iran, a nation that may be very close to acquiring nuclear weapons.
This seems like this being a crazy conspiracy theory, naturally, the Russians are behind it.
The alleged alien invasion was revealed in an alleged report by Russia's FSB. spy agency, which was found incontroversible proof that the alien extraterrestrial intelligence agenda is driving U.S. domestic and international policy and has been doing so since at least 1945, says the Iranian News Service.
I mean.
Well, I mean, it doesn't say anything about that guy, though.
No, no, Paul Hillier.
Snowden, who has been given asylum in Russia, leaked documents that are Well, Snowden, what?
Snowden, didn't Snowden say that he's, he actually said that he had like the most, most insane security clearance in the NSA.
And he said he never saw anything about extraterrestrials.
But now this is saying that he released documents that talk about extraterrestrials.
Well, I think this goes on too with Snowden right now because he's in Russia.
So he's trying to make sure he stays in Russia.
So as soon as he runs out of information to give them, I got a feeling he'll be back in the U.S. As soon as the Russians don't have any more use for him.
So he'll continue to let, now again, whether, is this real?
You know, is it something he's just pumping out sunshine up their ass to make them feel good about, hey, check this out.
It's the tall white is a, this will not be the last time you've heard of them.
Now, I didn't hear they were running the U.S., but it's interesting that the Iranians say that they are.
The Iranians have had many, many, many UFO related incidents.
Again, there's some that are saying that the Middle East really has all the information that we need to figure out where we really came from.
They don't want us to find that, so we keep the wars going on there.
I think maybe they just have better drugs than we do.
Man, I don't know.
Or maybe they've been out of the desert for too long.
Well, you know, of course, they sell more heroin.
Exactly.
And they got all the poppy there.
Absolutely.
So maybe that's what's going on at the end of the day.
I think it could be.
But, you know, again, when you hear things like the tall whites, nobody's saying that they're tall white guys.
They don't have another name for them.
It's that tall white thing.
Why are they tall?
They're big.
They're big.
They're supposed to be bigger than us.
So, you know, then they aren't flying those ships because those ships fit small, little.
Well, if you go back and look at Bob Lazar.
Bob Lazar's story, yeah.
They said the cockpit of that ship was like tiny.
But he also said there was no bathroom, there was no kitchen.
Right.
So they were humanoids.
Yeah, that was the big question.
He goes, Are these today?
He goes, If we could put a robot in something and fly to Mars, he goes, We'd do that.
Right.
We wouldn't want to risk lives.
Yeah, right.
Because I think it takes like even nine months to get there.
I think, too, the challenges are keeping your bones hard during that period of time because the bones get so soft.
Right, right, right.
And you lose bone density when you're in space for so long.
That's why the astronauts, they have to like work out.
That's exactly.
You see that running treadmill typically on there trying to keep the bones hard.
Yeah, trying to keep the bones hard.
So I think at the end of the day, when you start looking again at the bigger picture, We would have done that.
We put aliens or robots into a craft and sent it someplace, especially if they were that good.
So that makes perfect sense.
Like, yeah, it kind of makes more sense because what would you eat?
Where would you go to the bathroom?
You know, where would you?
So, yeah, ideally come up with something along those lines.
I want to travel.
Yeah.
So, and especially if you wanted it just to make sure that you're listening, we're just trying to keep tabs on the planet.
I was watching a, this is kind of getting off on a Bigfoot story, but I was watching a story where all these scientists had gotten together and they were in Alaska.
And they were there just to get some video.
And these were scientists.
These weren't people who were doing shows or they weren't looking to do a movie or strictly doing this for the sake of trying to figure out what people are seeing.
And in the show, one of the scientists is in the field and all of a sudden sees these lights that pop up above the trees.
And so he's trying to see what they are while this is going on.
And he's like, I'm not saying these are UFOs at all because that's not what we're out here to look at.
We're out here to look at trying to find if Bigfoot's real.
But what is this thing they were looking at?
And they watched it for probably 15 minutes.
And it was just funny that they're out there chasing this animal around that they say is alive, Bigfoot, and that they happen to see one of these things.
And, of course, that same night they see what they say is a Bigfoot.
They actually get it on thermal camera.
Did they really?
And they were trying to figure out what they could just tell was big.
Yeah.
And so they sent it off to a guy, and the guy said, dude, if you were in Africa, I'd tell you had a gorilla that looks just like a gorilla.
Right.
So that whole story kind of manifests itself into, again, back to the UFO thing.
Are they here to monitor the planet?
Because I can't think of why else they would be here.
I mean, what would be the fascination with us?
Do you think the tall whites are Bigfoot?
I mean, I would say no because these are Nordic style, but who knows?
Listen, they're wearing like a ghillie suit or something.
A big, hairy ghillie suit.
I mean, it's just strange to think about that in the bigger picture, but there's so many things that are so outside of what we understand.
When you talk to somebody who's seen a Bigfoot, dude, they're telling you they saw a Bigfoot.
You don't have to believe me.
So that story in itself is kind of unbelievable because we're always told there's no monsters, there's nothing out there that's going to hurt you.
And yet, You have these events that take place.
Look at the whole UFO thing.
Nobody ever thought it would.
I can remember back as a kid and people tell me, you're nuts to even follow this crap.
It's all a bunch of hooey.
It's just not real.
And here we are, you know, 45 years later on the cusp of finding something out through the Pentagon.
What was the guy's name that bought Skinwalker Ranch?
He actually, I can't believe I can't think of this cat's name.
Bigelow.
Bigelow, yes.
Bigelow.
Yeah.
Mark Bigelow?
No, it wasn't Mark.
I want to say it was like John or something.
Maybe it is, yeah.
Matter of fact, the show's getting ready to start up again this month.
What show?
For Skinwalker Ranch.
There's a show about Skinwalker Ranch?
Dude, they've got some, you've seen this guy.
He's a PhD scientist.
He's working there.
They're trying to figure out why this place has all these weird energies.
And every time someone tries to dig, something bad happens.
One of the guys got hit in the head with something, and he said it actually separated his scalp from his skull.
And they believe it was microwave energy that did it.
So somebody was shooting microwave energy at him when he was digging this hole out there, making his scalp separate from his skull.
And that's what happened to all those cows.
They were skinned with no blood.
They don't understand.
Bingo.
What was going on?
Yet they looked at some video and there's something in the air that's above one of the cows when it drops over and it can't get up.
And it just hangs.
Oh, there's video of it, dude.
Like I said, it's getting ready to start back up.
They brought in ground penetrating radar and found something that was about 4,200 feet long, about 20 feet under the ground.
So they tried to drill down to it.
And as soon as they tried to drill down to it, the ground started shaking.
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And the guy said, hey, check out that telephone pole there.
This was on a show.
What was the name of the show?
Skinwalker Ranch.
The show is called Skinwalker Ranch.
It's on the History Channel.
The History Channel.
It starts up May 5th.
Okay.
Dude, it's great.
It's got so much.
These are scientists.
They're trying to figure out what's going on.
They're not telling you what you're looking at.
They're just saying, hey, that's something.
What is it?
I wonder how much of it is hyper-sensationalized just for TV and how much of it's actually legit.
Well, I'm sure that it's like everything else, man.
I mean, you always go into a commercial break with not telling them what the answer was to the.
Because that guy Bigelow just did a podcast with Joe Rogan, and I watched it because I'm like super into these UFOs.
He's there.
He didn't say one thing about Skinwalker Ranch.
Oh, yeah.
That's crazy, dude.
That's crazy because he's.
On.
He's in the.
He's in the video, he's on the.
I was honestly kind of disappointed with that guy, John Bigelow.
What he was talking about, I mean, he's like he wasn't very lucid.
I'll use the word drip.
He's a drip.
No, it didn't seem like that.
It seemed like he was just kind of like not that, not there.
You know what I mean.
It seemed like it just seemed like he wasn't as informed as you would like him to be, or he didn't.
When you see him in this, like he was when he first got there and they, they brought on the two new scientists And he's, they start talking about digging and he goes, oh no, there's not going to be any digging here.
Every time we start digging, something bad happens.
Yeah, and so he started with all the things he goes, we're not going to talk about it right now because I don't know where you guys are at on this We're going to look at a few other things and the scientist that was there actually went down to This area where this this energy is coming up out of the ground and the energy got so heavy.
He actually got sick to his stomach.
He's I don't know what's coming up through you if this is electromagnetics that's coming up through here, but he got definitely ill All the phone batteries went dead.
They couldn't keep a they couldn't keep a drone in the sky They keep seeing something in the sky.
So, all these odd phenomena are going on.
And what they're trying to do now is they're putting cameras up in just about every square inch of the property so they cover everything and trying to figure out what's going on.
Right.
So, and it kind of ended last season on a note where they were, again, they had dug down about 20 feet and hit something.
He goes, dude, whatever's down there, I can't get through it.
Let me drill down any farther.
And like I said, the ground started shaking because they looked up.
He goes, hey, check out that telephone pole.
And the telephone pole was swaying back and forth.
What?
So, He didn't know, and you've seen this guy on TV before.
Once you see him in this flick, you've seen him before.
So he brings a certain amount of reality to the show.
Like, he's really looking for what it is.
He's like, I'm not telling you it's anything until I see what it is.
Right, right.
And because the guy that owned the ranch before Bigelow said that he actually had material that was from extraterrestrial craft that he has locked in a warehouse.
What was his name?
Dang it, I can't think of his name right now.
But when he sold it to Bigelow, he told them what was going on with the place.
So whether it's, you know, again, is this a spiritual place because of the earth?
You know, is this an earth movement thing?
Is it related to Native Americans that lived there at one point in time?
Well, I want to see it.
I get to see this shit to believe it.
Well, see, the skinwalker, the whole idea of the skinwalker is this is an individual that can morph into animals.
And he's kind of a spirit.
The Navajo really fear him.
But for whatever reason, it's just attached to this again, obviously, the name Skinwalker Ranch.
And it's gotten the strangest coverage because everybody tries to go in there, look at something, but they can't really do anything because the batteries go dead, the cameras die.
And once the camera went dead, they couldn't record the event that was taking place.
Mm hmm.
But it's going to be back on, I think it was May 4th, which is a Sunday, May 5th.
And it's going to, like I say, it's, again, all it's going to do is validate a lot of what we're talking about today.
There's something bigger that's going on.
Right.
But the problem, though, is you can't really validate it because it's a TV show, you know?
Oh, for sure.
I mean, it's like so great.
It's so entertaining.
And it sounds like you want to fucking believe it.
It's so fun to watch and it's so fun to talk about.
But just because it's, because of the fact it's a fucking TV show.
Sure.
You can't validate it.
You're like, oh, it's a fucking TV show.
Actually, it's the opposite because it's a TV show now you can actually dismiss it sure so he like I say but they've done some things that are interesting I mean they brought some power meters on and look at the look at the this energy that's coming in and when they triangulated it He goes it's coming from above us.
It's not on the ground from above us so they were trying to figure out how high it went up So they actually made this balloon and attached this EMP device to it that could Measure the amount of in electromagnetic pulse was coming down.
Yeah, and got it to a certain point then it burned up and dropped out of the sky.
So like I say the whole show is full of Obviously, it's something interesting going on at the ranch, whether it's UFO related or if it's some sort of anomaly that the property does because it's maybe more iron than not.
I don't know.
But it's, like I say, man, it's coming back out.
There's definitely some weird shit happening there.
Oh, definitely some odd things that are going on.
For me, again, that's really kind of the draw for it.
Explain that again.
Explain that again with the guy who said that's bullshit.
I'm going to fucking dig anyway.
Yeah, Thomas Winterton is one of the guys on the Skinwalker Ranch that actually works.
He's a ranch hand.
And as he got hired there, each of the ranch hands were told, listen, when you come onto the property, there's no digging.
And he was like, well, why can't we dig?
And the guy's like, because we don't want you digging.
And he's like, well, I don't understand why we can't.
I don't want you digging on the property.
They didn't tell him there was anything spooky about it.
They didn't tell him there was anything UFO associated.
They said, I don't care what you do on the property, but no digging.
So he was putting up some fence posts.
And after he, I guess, was with this thing for about 20 minutes to half an hour, he's like, this is bullshit.
I'm going to go get the Bobcat real.
quick and I'm going to drill a hole down here and put this post in the ground.
So he went back and got it, came back up, started to dig a hole in the ground and got this excruciating pain in the back of his head.
And they said it was nauseated.
He didn't feel good.
It was almost immediate.
So he left, got back home, realized that there was something bigger going on.
So they brought him to the hospital.
And when they brought him to the hospital, they took an x-ray of his skull and literally on the right-hand backside of his skull was a knot, but they couldn't figure out what that knot was from.
Well, then as they x-rayed it, The scalp was actually coming off of the skull and had looked like almost like an area where fluid had filled up.
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And the doctor was looking at me going, I've never seen this before.
How did this happen?
And he's like, I was on this field digging, and all of a sudden I got a pain in the back of my head, and here I am.
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