Matthew Cox hosts a chaotic live stream selling mass-produced art for $2.75 while detailing his post-prison struggles, including depression and dating app bans due to his criminal record. Callers debate crypto bubbles versus gold investments, with one predicting Bitcoin's collapse while another forecasts prices up to $400,000. The episode features heated critiques of Scientology as a "prison of belief" and ends with business pitches for prison-themed merchandise, highlighting the tension between Cox's fraudulent past and his current attempts at legitimate commerce amidst financial speculation. [Automatically generated summary]
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Mass Producing Art00:07:23
What's going on?
What is happening?
They said they're ready to buy art Matt Cox Matthew Cox we're back.
We're back.
No, yeah, we are.
I don't think so.
No.
Liquid Death.
Sponsored by Liquid Death.
No.
Matt, turn your phone off.
We're good.
I don't think...
I don't see it.
That's fine.
You don't need to see it.
You just need to talk.
You need to pay attention Stay here and I listen you just need to sit there and let us interrupt you for two hours.
Okay.
Oh, bro.
Jesus.
They hate you fuckers.
Let them hate I love them when they hate them I love them when they hit me.
You must.
You'd have to.
Right?
I mean, I don't get.
I still am.
All right, turn your phone off, bro.
What do you want me to do?
I'm just telling you.
We're doing a live stream.
Just focus on this.
You old man.
Your art.
How you been, Matt?
Thanks for joining the live podcast, the Matt Cox Stolen Art Auction Number Two.
My audio is super low in my headphones.
That's good.
That's better.
I thought you did this for a living.
Put your headphones on.
Oh.
Yeah, we do.
You see this awesome Twitter we got?
What happened to Peter?
What happened to thank you and please and hey, could you please?
You know?
I mean.
Not from Danny.
You ain't getting that from Danny.
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
Fucking cocksucker.
How you been?
I bet this is great with the headphones.
What are we doing here today, Matt?
Tell the audience why we're here.
I don't know.
You called me and said.
We're going to auction off a bunch of your art, your beautiful paintings back here.
I'm not auctioning off.
I have a price.
You have a price.
I'm not an auction.
I just have a price.
And I've got like 10 of these.
And you got to show them in front of the camera.
You got to bring one close.
We will.
Okay.
So I have 10 of these.
I want $2.75 for each one.
And that includes me mailing it to you anywhere within the United States or the continental United States.
So if you're in Hawaii or Puerto Rico, you're hit.
But, you know, whatever.
I'll mail it to California or New York or whatever.
Cool.
So explain to me.
Oh, also, you're going to be doing live portraits, commissioned portraits.
Where did you come with portraits?
You just said bring some, you said just do some sketches.
So let me explain.
I thought it would be a great idea to have Matt Cox bring in some blank canvases so all you beautiful viewers online can commission Matt live to do a drawing for you.
He brought some paint markers so he can do some live drawings for the chat, people in the chat.
You've been working out?
No.
My shirt's just super tight today.
Um,.
Somebody donated 50 bucks.
Wow.
Thank you so much.
Wait, to Danny?
Wait a second.
Wait a second.
Let me explain something.
There's a fucking PayPal.
Danny doesn't need any money.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Danny's rolling it up.
The money that they're going to pay you, which we're going to give out your PayPal.
If they want to support Matt Cox, we're going to give out his PayPal shortly.
They're going to give out donations.
And they can.
Danny will give them to you.
You can trust him.
No, he won't.
Last time he goes, I don't care about the money.
I'll give you all the money.
Then later he goes, I'll split it with you.
I was like.
That's fair.
All right.
We got to stop talking over each other because it's going to be a shit show if we keep doing that.
Oh, yeah.
That's upset you in the past.
You've never talked over me.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
Anyways, when we start to auction off the paintings and do the live commissioned artwork, we will give out Matt Cox, what's it called?
PayPal, your PayPal email, and they can pay you directly there.
But if you want to support the chat of the podcast, go ahead.
They said they want to do an interview in Spanish.
Speak Spanish.
On a Spanish channel.
I don't speak Spanish.
I mean, how long?
So, explain to me what you got going on.
What was the inspiration behind this painting that you brought in today?
You brought in four of the same paintings all in different colors.
Well, two of them are the same.
No, they're all different, though.
I mean, like, she's pink.
She's skin tone.
The other one's magenta, purple.
So, I mean, they're all different colors.
The backgrounds are two of them are the same.
Yeah, yeah.
But they're all different paintings.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're all different.
But there's a guy named Robert Smith who bought.
Do you remember that paint?
I don't think you saw that painting.
I sent you the.
I think I sent you the.
The time lapse where I did it was called Angry Baby.
It was a kid that's crying, like screaming.
So the guy that bought that, his name is Robert Smith.
He bought that and then he came back after he got it.
He was like, wow, you know, this is great.
He said, I want a painting the same size as, same size, it was three foot by four foot.
He said, of Rob Zombie's wife blowing a bubble.
There's some video.
He sent me the video and Rob Zombie's wife in the video is blowing a bubble, but you can't see her very well.
Like you can see her, but you can only, it's a real, it's, it's cropped real tight.
And I thought, you know what?
If I could superimpose her face and, and hands over another chick, then I could get like a full body shot.
It'd be a cooler painting.
It'd be, you know, more aesthetically pleasing.
Let's put it that way.
So I started looking.
And as I was searching for women blowing, you know, bubble gum bubbles, and I started searching, I came across this image and I looked at it and I, I, I thought, man, I, I love that image.
That's a great image.
So then I took it and I did, I mass produced, cause I'm getting tired of, I'm not tired of it.
The fuck is that a helicopter flying over us?
I feel like there's a helicopter landing on top of the building right now.
It's not me, they're coming for you.
It's not me, it's the doctor.
It's um, he's flying in.
So, um, he, um, what's going on?
I'm probably getting notifications.
Okay, so, so anyway, yeah, I got this, and and I got a lot of guys that are like, like they can't afford like 800 bucks.
They're like, hey, you know, that other painting was 800 bucks, or this one's 600.
Like, I can't afford that.
What can you do for?
$250.
Can you do something for me for $250 or for $300?
It's like, no, I can't.
There's nothing I can do for $300.
But then I thought, you know what?
If I take the same design and I just mass produce it, like I paint it over and over and over again, and maybe, and it took three or four days, but if I can do that over and over and over again, then I can sell those for like $275 and I can mail it to you and it's affordable.
And they're all different paintings.
They're all individual paintings.
They're the same image.
Why can't you just, couldn't you just create like one really badass painting and then do prints of them and just sign them all?
Right.
But, But they're prints.
And at some point in the future, I may do prints.
But for right now, it's like to me, and I could be wrong, it's like I would rather have a piece of artwork.
People like to live paint.
Right.
It's a painting, it's a real piece of art as opposed to a copy.
And that's really what it boils down to it's a copy.
Can you put your phone on silent?
Do you mind?
I can't.
This is John Boziak.
Tell him to call in.
He can buy some art.
Uh oh.
We'll wait.
He's talking shit on me live.
I know.
I got to turn this off.
Hey, do you want a sticker for the Church of Chill?
Cocaine Cowboy Story00:07:50
I don't know what that is.
It's an amazing podcast done by my friend Sean Dunn and his beautiful girlfriend Cass.
They do a morning live meditation podcast every morning on their channel.
Cass is extremely, extremely attractive.
You think?
I mean, she is really attractive, but you have different taste.
Because you got the hots for Katie.
Katie.
Where is Katie?
What happened to Katie?
We don't bring her around when you're here.
I mean, Katie was also tall, though.
Wasn't she like 5'9 or something?
Like, Katie could take me in a fair fight.
I can't date a chick that could take me in a fair fight.
She's too tall for you?
5'9?
She's a giant.
Bro.
I did their podcast.
I know.
How was it?
It was good.
They were stoned the whole time.
And I kept saying, like, am I going to fail?
What if I get a urine test or something?
Am I going to fail being around you guys?
No, you're fine, bro.
You're fine.
You know, but they were stoned the whole time.
They never stopped for two hours.
They smoked straight for two hours.
Nice, how did you meet them?
Uh Tyler, oh god how, how.
What were you expecting when you went there to go meet up with these people?
Did you know anything about them?
Or I had tried to watch their video of Florida Man.
They are their documentary, Florida Man.
You tried to watch it.
I tried because when you punch in Florida Man there's, there's like 100 Florida men.
You gotta type in documentary after I.
I mean, I did.
I still got tons of them.
I mean, I never, I don't, I think I may have watched it.
I think I did watch part of it.
But, you know, and so Tyler told me about them and I watched it and they had won like Tribeca.
And I thought, okay, well, let me try and find this.
And I watched it.
And, you know, Tyler by that point had already been like, hey.
He already booked you.
Yeah, he basically already booked me.
He already had it booked.
Hey, check this out.
He's here.
He had the date booked.
You'll be meeting them here at this time.
I don't even know what's going on.
And basically, you know, they do documentaries.
They own a production company.
So I figured, okay, well, while I'm there, I can pitch one of my other stories to them, which I did pitch, and which they're interested in that story.
It's like a Cocaine Cowboy story.
The guy's actually in Halfway House right now.
One of the guys.
Who is this guy?
His name's Mike Hudson.
He's basically, he and his brother Doug were, they're like Cocaine Cowboys, but back in the late 70s and 80s, they were in Miami and they were like, they know all those guys, all the guys.
All the big time cocaine cowboys and drug dealers, everything.
They were taking boats out and loading up the boats with the Medellin cartel, they were loading up boats and they're bringing it into Miami, and their mother was running the whole operation.
Bro, it's an amazing story.
It's an amazing story.
It's crazy how many people that we've met and even had on here that were somehow affiliated with the Medellin cartel.
Oh, well, it was a huge, massive operation.
Yeah.
I mean, these guys, Doug's brother, you wouldn't know this, but.
So Jesse Jackson ran for president back in the 80s, right?
Right.
So I'm sorry, Mike's brother, Doug, has actually been in three different Caribbean prisons.
He's escaped from two of them.
And the third one, Jesse Jackson, flew into Cuba, convinced Castro to hand over 22 or 23 American prisoners that he had been holding in his prisons.
Put him on his plane and flew him back to the United States.
Mike Hudson's brother, Doug Hudson, was one of those guys.
And this guy, Robert Young, Bobby Young, was a second guy.
Now, all of them were run by his mother, ran an entire crew of guys.
Mike Hudson was in the Dirty Dozen.
I mean, you know, listen, their whole story.
What's the story?
It's a motorcycle gang.
Okay.
Their whole story is just, it's just.
It's just this amazing, epic journey that puts like the cocaine cowboys, like that story.
It just, it's just, I don't want to say it puts it to shame because that was a great story, but that was more about Miami.
These guys just have this epic journey that goes on for about 10 or 15 years.
Listen, Mike's been in prison.
He's been in Arizona State Prison, Florida State Prison, and done two federal bids.
I mean, this guy, this guy's amazing.
I remember when I did the research on him.
I remember he told me a story.
I'll just do this real quick.
He told me, like, sometimes you hear stories, right?
Like, guys will tell you stories, and you know, you're sitting there, I'm sitting there writing the story, I'm taking notes, and you know, halfway through the story, it's like, cut this shit, bro.
This isn't real.
You're bullshit.
This is like a Clint Eastwood movie.
You didn't, and he's telling me that he was backing his Jaguar up into a parking space, and a couple of rednecks beeped at him, and he flipped him the bird, or they flipped him a bird, whatever.
They pull over and get out.
Three guys come up to him and say, If you saw Mike Hudson, he's a five foot 10 version of Clint Eastwood, only he looks meaner, is meaner, and adds about 20 pounds of just solid muscle.
The guy's a beast.
So these three guys come up to him on the street and they go, Hey, motherfucker, why don't you shoot a bird at me now, huh?
What you got?
What you got?
And he goes, Just get out of here.
Just get out of here.
Don't, you know, you don't want none of this.
They're like, Yeah, you got something.
And so Mike, fuck, boom, he punches one in the face.
Guy drops.
The other guy swings at him.
He, Catches him in the shoulder.
He punches that guy.
Guy goes down.
He chases the other guy into a Piccadilly.
You know, Piccadilly, like a restaurant?
The guy pulls a knife out and starts swinging at him.
Mike takes the knife away and smashes him in the face.
Just so happens that there's two cops eating.
They jump up, grab both of them, and while they're being dragged out of the restaurant, the kid mouse off to him again and Mike pops him, knocks out his two front teeth.
Now, this is a story Mike told me, and I thought, You're telling me at 40 years old, you beat the crap out of three 25 year olds.
Stop it.
That never happened.
But I had ordered all the Freedom of Information Acts.
One day I get one in from Miami, and not only do I have the police report where he beat three guys' asses in the middle of downtown Miami, I have a transcript from when one of the guys sued Mike.
And in the transcript, at the very end of it, he describes exactly what Mike said.
One of the lawyers says to him, Do you regret pulling over and confronting Mr. Hudson?
And he says, Well, of course I do.
I'd still have my two front teeth.
It's just like, Damn.
This is amazing.
And of course, if you met Mike, you'd talk to him for 10 minutes and you'd be like, Yeah, I can see this.
I can see him swinging on these guys and getting into a fight and the whole thing.
But he's a beast.
He's a beast.
When is he getting out?
He's in the halfway house right now.
He and his brother, I'm trying to put together a with Cass and her whole group because the truth is I don't even know what's it was what's her boyfriend's name Sean like I don't even know who Sean is like I don't know if Sean was I mean if if Cass and Sean are in the room I'm just talking to Cass I don't even know who Sean is I mean it's like hey, so what are we doing creepy old man?
Scientology Dating Lie00:14:59
I'm telling you are you sar so So anyway, I was just thinking who's watching this?
I was just they're probably watching it.
Oh, it's watching it.
Nope All your girlfriends are watching it.
Oh, that's, you know.
Tinder dates.
Tinder dates.
That was a great segue.
We should talk about your latest.
I don't have, they've, I got kicked off all the.
So, what?
So, you're making YouTube videos now on your YouTube channel.
Right.
Where you're basically telling your personal, deep, depressing stories of your failed relationships.
I mean, it is very depressing.
You talk about being depressed.
I mean, yeah, I'm depressed, but by nightfall, I'm over it.
It's in the morning when I'm ready to shoot myself.
Thank God I can't have a gun.
I thought it was the opposite.
I thought you were telling me when you were in prison at night.
No, I said, I wake up in the morning.
It's like everything I can do to get out of bed.
Oh.
I talked I start talking myself through the day.
I still do it to this day.
I lay in bed for 10 minutes thinking coffee You've got coffee.
It's just in the next room.
You like coffee, you know, and eventually I pull myself out of bed I go in I start every day every day every day you wake up depressed and it how long does it last sometimes it's worse than others?
I mean no, I'm heartbroken.
No, this was happening when he was in prison.
No, this is prison.
It still happens now.
It still happens depression.
You don't get over it.
You're always depressed or you're medicated So I don't want to take the medication.
I'm afraid it will rot my brain or something.
I'll be 70 years old and they'll find out and then suddenly I have Parkinson's.
Are you still going to a psychiatrist?
No.
I only had to do that for a year.
Do you miss going to the psychiatrist?
No.
You don't think it was good for you at all?
No, she was trying to make me be a better person and I'm not interested in that.
You can't fix this.
I told her, I said, I can't be a scumbag for like 50 years.
I get out of prison, I'm going to talk to you for a year and you're going to change my behavior.
Plus, I don't want to change.
It's working for me.
I like me.
Yeah no, but you do like talking about shit.
You like talking about yourself.
You like talking about things you do and your feelings, and sometimes that feels good.
I, you know that the subtle mocking is what you know gets me.
No, I'm being serious.
Hey oh, I don't know who that is Austin's girlfriend's here.
Austin's girlfriend thought that was Katie, but she's too short to be Katie.
Yeah, Katie would have had a hunch to get through the door.
I can't believe you think she's fucking tall.
She is.
She's like 5'9".
Katie's not that tall.
No?
I mean, she's probably my height.
How tall are you?
I'm 5'10.
It's ridiculous.
For a woman?
In a good pair of shoes.
No, she's not that tall.
No, she's probably 5'9, 5'8.
5'8, 5'9.
Listen, if you're 5'7, you're a giant to me.
It's ridiculous.
So, listen to this.
This really struck me.
I was talking to Matt on the phone like a couple weeks ago, and he was talking to me how his previous girlfriend broke up with him.
And you can tell, we'll just I want you to tell the full story about that in a minute.
All right, but um, he's talking about all these dating apps, how it's so hard for him.
You'll tell the story, but I asked him, like, Matt, a dating app, why don't you just go to like go to the bar and try to chat up some lady at the bar, buy a drink?
Yeah, Matt's response to me was, I'm five five, I can't five six, I'm five five foot six.
I can't go to a bar and pick up chicks.
Oh, come on, I'm like a little midget.
It's like, what are they gonna do?
So, so what's the tall guy?
Every time.
Can you unpack that statement for me?
As soon as the outlook starts blowing up.
He goes, nah, he's 6'1.
You're 5'10.
He's 5'10, you're 6'1, and you guys are 6'1.
Are you serious?
It's fucking freaky show.
Can you do me a favor?
Hold on.
Can you do me a favor and explain that statement to me?
What?
Unpack that statement for me?
I'm going to steal that.
I'm using that.
I mean, why say explain when you say unpack?
Go ahead.
When you said.
You can't go to a bar and chat up ladies because you're 5'6.
The average height of a woman is like 5'6", and they're all wearing heels.
So let's face it, already they're staring down at me, right?
Unless I want to wear platform shoes, which I'd wear if it wasn't so obvious.
She's going to the wrong bar.
Wrong bar?
The one where they wear the dirty foot bar?
I'll go to the dirty foot bar.
Where they wear flip-flops.
Show me where that bar is.
On the beach.
Yeah, he's right.
First of all, you know the other problem with going to a bar?
You go to a bar.
What bar are you going to where everyone's wearing high heels?
You're going to Tampa and shit.
No, I don't go to a bar.
I've never been to a bar in 20 years.
I think of like the nightclub.
I haven't gone to a bar in 20 years.
I'm saying in general.
Got a timeout.
Get you a 5'6 over there right now.
People are hating on you, boys.
Let me tell you.
They're going to be like, shut up, hat rack.
Fucking quit asking questions and not let Cox respond.
All right.
We can't talk over Cox.
Okay.
So listen.
Glorious.
What the fuck did I drive over here?
It's an hour to get here.
Anyway.
So.
What I am saying is this, is that if you hang out at a bar and you talk to one or two women the entire time you're there, what's the likelihood that you end up hooking up?
This has got to go on for months and months before you end up finding a chick that you like.
First of all, not just knocking them off.
I'm not talking about knocking them off, okay?
That's not that difficult.
What I'm talking about is a chick that you like, that you want to hang out with, that you want to spend the rest of your life with.
Because I'm 51 years old.
Bro, I'm 51 years old.
You can't even understand.
The problems that I have.
Women have to get over multiple things.
First of all, you went to prison for scratch that.
First of all, multiple felonies on the run for three years, owed $6 million, which I'm good for.
Went to prison for 12 and a half years, got out at 49, now 51.
I've been out of prison for 18 months, starting your life over, lived in someone's spare room, was driving a car that didn't have ABS or a radio that worked.
Or AC.
Luckily, I just got a new car.
Still not a great car.
But the point is, at least it's not a death trap.
So, I mean, I just got an apartment, just got a new vehicle.
Everything I have is brand new, and I don't have that much.
I mean, I'm struggling.
So, when you go in, if I wanted to go in and just completely BS somebody, sure, but I go in and I'm just very honest about this is the situation.
Yeah, but don't you think that's interesting?
Don't you think that's an interesting thing to have a conversation with somebody about your story?
Yeah, but at my age, listen.
If a chick's over 35 years old, she's starting to think, she's starting to realize, look, it's a downhill slide at this point.
I got to find a guy that's stable, that is not a complete maniac, right?
And everything about me says that's not what all, I don't think that's what all 35 plus year old women are looking for at bars.
No, the ones that you want to end up with, the ones that are bars that are picking up some guy just want to go home and get the shit banged out of them.
I mean, you know, but that's not the chick that you're probably going to end up with.
Not that you couldn't end up with that.
Not that I'm opposed to that.
I'm just saying, just putting that out there.
But I'm saying in general, I need to find a chick that I'm going to be with because I don't have time to go have a three year relationship, have it not work out, struggle for six months to find another chick, date her for four years.
And by that time, I'm 60 years old.
I want to be 60 years old trying to.
So, what's the problem with all the dating apps that you're using?
All the dating apps.
I was on several dating apps.
Fucker.
So I was on several dating apps.
I met this chick.
We went to go meet.
She asked me for my phone number.
She reverse directed me.
I don't know.
Is that a thing?
Yeah.
Reverse directory.
Whatever.
Found out my name and didn't show up.
Just rude.
Like you couldn't send a text, say, listen, this is what's going on.
Didn't show up.
Instead, she turned around.
She contacted the FBI, Match.com.
She contacted two of the apps we were both on.
Within a day, I knocked off both of them for violating the policy, which is you're not allowed to be a felon.
And then the third one, it took another couple of days before, guess what?
Boom, knocked off that one.
Now, I went back on Bumble, changed, altered everything slightly, right?
Like it was still Matt Cox and that sort of thing, but I altered some of my information so that it let me back on.
It was on for about three weeks and then, boom, shut me off.
So, you know, was it another chick?
Because you'll see a lot of these chicks on different websites.
Did one of these chicks know me?
Was she on the website?
Did she come across me?
I don't know.
So I was talking to.
I mean, it's funny that the advice, unsolicited advice, that I get constantly is like, I either get the, you should be very honest up front and just weed through them and this and that.
And it's like, okay, well, I mean, trust me, I tried that.
It doesn't work.
Or you should not say anything.
The psychiatrist, the federal government psychiatrist told me, date these women for at least three or four dates, let them get to know you, and then tell them.
And I went, so.
Let's face it, by the first, second, by at least the second date, you're having sex.
So, you want me to sleep with this chick two or three times and then tell her I just got out of prison.
I don't see a problem with that.
I do.
I think that that's extremely intrusive.
I think it's, it's, it's, first of all, it's misleading.
So, I'm someone who has a problem with people believing me and with credibility.
So, I need to start the relationship off with a lie.
That's not right.
So, look, and let me put it this way this is what I told my friend Stacey the other day.
Because she was trying to give me advice, which she always does, which is typically horrible advice.
But she was trying to give me advice.
And she's like, well, just say this.
You can subtly answer this way.
You can mislead them this way.
You can manipulate the conversation.
You're very good at this.
Okay, great.
So here's the thing there's no little bit of fraud.
All right.
There's no gray area.
You've either committed fraud or you haven't.
So what I told Stacey is if I go back on a dating app, I'm going to create a completely new Instagram, Facebook, Facebook.
New name Gary Sullivan.
Gary Sullivan.
I'm a Gary Sullivan, the whole thing.
I'll set up an entire thing.
I'll just fake the entire thing and I'll date the chick for fucking three months until she's deep, deep in.
And then I'll say, boom, got to mention something to you.
I'm not Gary Sullivan.
Then you club her over the head.
Why would I possibly go out with her for a week?
Because you're going to lose a ton of them that way.
And then you still have to find somebody that you like.
How many women have you dated that you like that you're in a committed relationship right now that you feel this is the person?
And I'm assuming that you date a lot.
Date?
No, not too often, no.
Okay.
So you're smashing chicks.
Shane hasn't been on a date or hooked up with a girl in probably half a decade.
That's not true.
You were with that chick the other time we were here.
Yeah, I'm sure you.
That didn't turn out to be true.
No, it didn't, but that's what I'm saying is that how many women have you gone through and you haven't found Mrs. Wright and you don't have any of the problems I have?
Matt, have you ever tried going to the strip club?
You don't meet.
Actually, I did date a stripper for three years.
I was engaged to her too.
She's a really nice girl.
You should just get a mail order.
A mail order bride.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Listen.
Cut out the middle.
Just go for it.
Look, Matt's got a newfound moral compass.
And if I had this.
Look, no, honestly, if I was a multimillionaire, I would go with some Eastern European chick that's a mail order bride.
Because, look, they're vicious, but at least you have an arrangement.
You say, look, I'm going to marry you.
We're going to stay married for three years.
Then I'm swapping you out for another one.
I'll send you off with some real estate and a 401k or an IRA, a Roth IRA.
I'll set you up over the next three to four years.
And then we go over back there.
We pick up another chick.
We'll swap you out and you're good.
I mean, she's an indentured servant for three to four years, whatever it takes.
I'm saying, I wouldn't mind that because it's an arrangement.
I get that.
That's okay.
I'd be okay with that.
But I'm not a multimillionaire.
And bringing some, first of all, it takes thousands, tens of thousands of dollars to go over there.
You find the girl, you got to bring her over here.
She has to go back for 10 days or so.
She has to come back over.
She's got to be 5'2".
It's a whole thing.
Look, I'll take 5'6 and under.
So, how long were you dating your previous girlfriend?
I don't want to say her name.
I don't want to air her out or anything like that.
It doesn't matter.
You go on my channel every time.
You put her all over your channel?
She's all over my channel.
She.
She texted me today when I released the video today because I made some crack about how it's not my fault that she's there's an issue between the two of us.
How long were you guys dating?
I don't know like about 14 15 months and then why did why did you guys end up breaking up?
I thought look listen any relationship there's like ebbs and flows right like sometimes it's amazing and then sometimes you know it's it's good but it's not as good as it was at one time like there's obvious right like what not bad but sometimes you're more over the top in love than others.
So we would have a couple of great weeks, and then we'd have a week where we didn't talk or even see each other for a week.
What's going on?
Just reading.
Okay.
Nothing.
Keep going.
So there would be times when we were texting, you know, whatever, five, 10 times a day, as opposed to she's texting me 30 times a day and calling me and saying, I can't wait to see you.
And, you know, I love you so much.
And, you know, that.
So those things are going back and forth, but it's a good relationship, in my opinion.
Listen, one day, what, first of all, this kills me.
She wants to move in like we're dating.
There was an issue with this chick she was dating, right?
So she was dating this chick when we met and then she broke up with her to be with me.
And then the girl came back around and she's like, look, I'm gonna be with her and I'm sorry.
And I'm like, you're messing up, but whatever.
She was bisexual, right?
And then she comes back again like a week later.
She's like, I messed up.
I screwed up.
Forget her.
I'm sorry.
I'm in love with you.
And then that went on for a few months.
Eventually she comes back and I'm like, look, we're done.
I mean, you know, this, I'm tired of this.
She's like, no, you don't understand.
I'm all in.
I want to move in together.
I'm in love with you.
It's, I messed up.
I screwed up.
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Great.
So a few months later, we tell our POs that we're seeing each other.
Okay, because we're both on probation.
We have to get permission.
So we get permission.
Then I say, I'm going to go rent an apartment.
Then she starts backpedaling.
Well, I'm about to go to start school full time and I don't know.
And what about my half of the rent and this and that?
And let's give it another month.
And okay, another month goes by.
And then another month goes by.
And then I said, Look, I got to move out of it.
I'm living in someone's spare room.
I got to get out of here.
You know, so I'm going to rent an apartment.
You're moving in with me.
She's like, I can't afford my half of the rent.
I just started school.
I'm like, I'll pay your half of the rent.
And she's like, Well, the problem is my dad, I live with my dad.
I'm so close, and my car's a piece of junk, and your car is a piece of junk.
We'll get you a new car.
I'll help you with the car payment.
Then it comes back.
It's like, No, I can't afford that.
I'll pay the car payment.
Now what?
I just need more time.
I need more time.
You're knocking her into a corner.
Oh, yeah, of course.
What am I going to look?
Put up or shut up.
If I'm in, I'm 100%.
I'm all in.
I mean, I've said this before.
If I'm going in the bank, I'm not slipping the fucking teller some pussy ass fucking note and walking out with $3,000.
I'm going into the vault with an AK 47.
I'm zip tying everybody and I'm leaving with the contents.
You're either in or you're out.
So she's not all in.
Is that wrong?
No, I love it.
So I'm saying you're not all in, then something's wrong.
I get an apartment.
She's coming over back and forth, back and forth.
And then anyway, one day she comes over and she basically comes over and we end up going to dinner.
First, I remember she said she wanted to talk.
Where did you go to dinner?
Red Lobster, Applebee's.
Red Lobsters.
Now, where did we go?
I don't know, like some Buffalo Wing house or something.
Buffalo Wild Wings?
B Dubs.
Wild Wing, yeah.
B Dubs.
Next to my house.
Hell yeah.
That place has more TV screens than anywhere.
It does have a lot.
There's a lot of sports on.
I don't know.
I feel like I'm just getting sunburnt.
My skin's just getting fried from all the TV, all the fucking screens everywhere.
Anyways, you guys go to B Dubs, and what happens?
I don't like that he calls it B Dubs.
That's what people call it.
Do they?
It's by my house, bro.
Anyway, we go there.
And uh, Austin, what do you call it?
P dubs, well, it's not my kind of place, okay?
It's a sports bar, I'd rather not go there, whatever.
Not my call.
So, we go in, we sit down, and I said, So, what'd you want to talk about?
I'm happy, I'm having a good time.
My girlfriend's here, we just had sex, everything's good.
That's about to change, yeah.
We just everything's good, like we just knocked one out, we're gonna go eat, going back.
Life's good, life's good.
Sure enough, we sit down, and I said, You want to talk, and she goes, She and I said, Uh, what'd you want to talk about, and she goes.
Maybe we shouldn't talk here.
And I went, What?
I said, What do you want?
I got to throw a fit?
I said, What are you breaking up with me?
And she goes, Yeah.
And I went, What?
We just ordered.
And I was like, Oh, no.
Oh, I went, What?
And she goes, I just, it's just not working.
And I just don't feel like we're going to, this is going to last.
And I then, I went, Oh, I said, Hold on.
Hey, hey, to the secretary, to the, not secretary, to the waitress.
I go, Hey, I said, can you back box all that stuff up and get me the tab as soon as humanly possible?
And she goes, is everything okay?
I said, yeah, we're just wrapping this up real quick.
This is over.
So I need that stuff so we can get going as quickly as possible.
I appreciate it.
And she went and she got the stuff and came back.
And Jess is just sitting there staring at me.
She's like, do you want, what do you want to talk about?
I said, there's nothing, what's there to talk about?
You don't want to be with me.
I've been through this before.
We've been through this.
This is a real, we had a good year since the last one, but this is it.
So sure enough, we get our stuff.
We go back, we walk into the house.
She's sitting there.
She's like, do you want to talk about this?
What's there to talk about?
Do you have any of your stuff that you need to get?
It's over.
If it's over, it's over.
And, you know, I was furious.
So then she left.
And then a couple days later, I start getting the texts from her Are you okay?
I know you're upset.
My dad said that I probably shouldn't call you.
And I said, Yeah, you're right.
You shouldn't call me.
There's no reason to text me.
We're done.
A couple more days.
Then, you know, she starts posting stuff on Facebook and she starts, and he goes back.
And then I'm like, You know, what are you doing?
And then we start talking again.
And then she comes over a few times here and there and we're talking.
And then we stop talking.
And then we have another day.
This and this goes on for another month.
It's been going on for a month or so.
It's, you know, it's just not, it's like she doesn't know why she doesn't want to be with me, but she does want to be around me and see me and text me and be around, you know, and, you know, listen, we basically have the same relationship we had before.
Only the difference is I'm currently going to try and find another chick.
She doesn't like the commitment.
Right.
But here's the thing this is a chick that works, she works and goes to school all day, all night.
It's like there's not somebody else, you know?
It doesn't make sense.
Her whole thing is, I don't see us being together for the rest of our lives.
Okay.
We're too different.
That's what she says.
That's what she says.
We're too different.
So she's like, I don't see us having a successful relationship because we're too different.
Right.
I understand.
So what you're saying is that, like a housewife and a guy that sells insurance, they don't have anything in common.
So they can't be together.
You're saying that a secretary and a guy who's a garbage man that, Live together and have a 40 year relationship and raise three kids.
They can't be together because they don't have anything.
You're telling me that only people that both are mechanics can survive a relationship?
So you and your wife must have the identical backgrounds and careers, right?
No, you don't.
That's right, right?
That's right.
That's not how it works.
So the fact is, it doesn't make sense.
So it's like nothing she's saying makes sense.
You know, she's saying, I'm in love with you.
I'm attracted to you.
I love talking to you and hanging out with you.
It's like, okay, so what's happening?
She's comfortable with you and all that stuff is true, but she doesn't want anything long.
She doesn't want to get married and have kids with you.
Maybe she wants to get married and have kids, but she wants to have kids with you.
She wants somebody else.
Some younger guy, a taller guy.
And I thank you.
What a dickhead.
Don't think I haven't had that conversation.
I was like, give me a reason.
Tell me you want a guy that's six foot tall.
Tell me you want a guy that's a mechanic.
Or, you know, which is what she's going to school to be like a mechanic.
Like, tell me that you want a guy.
Tell me that I have bad breath.
Tell me that I'm too old for you.
I said, that's a total issue for me.
She's 34 and I'm 51.
I'm like, tell me that.
That makes sense.
And she's like, what are you talking about?
You don't even look 51.
She's like, you look, we look like we're the same age practically.
She's like, I don't look 34 and you don't look 51.
She goes, that's not it.
She's like, you're amazing.
You're a great person.
You're great.
That hairline's not a day older than 25.
It shouldn't be.
It costs $14,000.
Best Bank of America.
Cha ching.
Cha ching.
So I need to finish one.
Oh, this one's full.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it doesn't make sense, but whatever.
It's never going to make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
It's none of my business.
Whatever.
So, yeah, it's an issue.
But the problem is like I posted that video today, and this other chick that I'm talking to saw the video, of course, which I knew she was going to.
And then she called me and she's like, it sounds like you're not really over this chick.
And I'm like, well, no.
Of course, I'm not over.
I mean, we dated over a year.
I'd be a complete nut job if I was just over, just like that.
It's dragging out.
So, how did you meet this new chick?
She watched me on concrete.
Really?
I've actually had a couple of women.
Boziak came in here a week ago.
He met his girl off the show.
Boziak came in here a week ago with some new girl he met.
We're matchmaking them all.
She DM'd him from the concrete podcast.
She saw his podcast on here with you and him.
Right.
Now they're together.
Right.
I mean, that's, you know.
But, I mean, the other chick, it's just.
And I'm going to the wedding.
Yeah, this is a chick that I'm just talking.
Like, I've talked to a couple of chicks, but I haven't seen them.
I haven't gone out with them.
I haven't done anything.
I mean, just, they're just, we're just communicating, you know, like they're in other states, right?
This other chick's in another state.
But didn't you meet a girl for a blind date off one of those apps?
Wasn't a blind date.
It was during my three weeks that Bumble let me slip back in there.
And then just in that, so how did that, how did that play out?
Let's see, I went on a couple of, they're not blind dates.
They're like, they're app, they're dating.
Well, whatever.
They're not a blind date, but you've never seen the person in real life.
Before, right?
No, not in real life, but they were that didn't get catfished, it was her.
So, I went on a couple dates, but the problem is, I went on the dates and I'd broken up with Jess, or Jess had broken up with me two weeks earlier or a week and a half earlier.
So, I go on some date with some girl and she's talking and talking, and I'm not even paying attention.
And at the end of the date, I'm like, okay, well, hey, it was nice meeting you.
I give them a hug and I just head back to my car, and they're standing there like, what's going on?
And I'm just like, I'm not feeling it.
Like, I might as well have gone to dinner with my sister.
Tell me about the story about.
The girl you met who was a Scientologist.
Okay, now that was one of the best dates I've out of the two or three dates, the three, there was three dates.
Out of that three dates, that chick, amazing.
Really?
Was she the hottest?
Yeah, but I don't think that had anything to do with it.
Really?
Yeah.
So she was hot.
I mean, like, extremely.
Like, usually you get there and you're like, oh, man, you gave me glamour shop pictures.
You really picked the best pictures of you.
This chick walked in, walked up and over to me, and I was just like, my god, run the numbers.
Run the numbers for me.
Run the numbers.
What was her cup size?
What was her height?
Not doing that.
She was an attractive woman.
What am I, 12?
Did she have a fat ass?
Fat ass?
I'm not going to say this.
Paint us a picture, man.
Paint me a fat ass?
Who says fat?
What are you doing?
You're a white guy.
Paint me a picture.
Yeah, I like a fat ass.
Oh, my God.
This is horrible.
You're a horrible individual.
Matt, this is what what we do, this is what we like.
Listen, she was extremely attractive.
She, I don't know what's happening here.
Put your phone down, put your phone down.
Oh, it's Mike Hudson.
That's great.
Put your phone down.
The doctor threw a hundred dollars.
The doctor, yeah, but not to me.
He threw it to Danny.
Shout out to the doctor, unbelievable.
The doctor threw Ben Benjamin, that guy.
So, um, so paint a picture for us.
What's she, yeah, blonde, yeah, she had brown hair, brownish, brownish blonde.
Oh, five foot four, maybe five, no, maybe five, three.
Actually, how much do you think she weighs?
Oh, 110 pounds.
Okay.
Maybe max 115.
What are the breasts?
Double Ds.
Big fake double Ds or little ant bites?
Double Ds.
Listen.
She had plenty.
She was very attractive.
She was.
What does that mean, plenty?
Plenty.
She was average.
It's average.
I'm good with average.
I don't want to date a freak show.
Okay, not giant melons.
Triple Ds.
Not a big old ass.
I'm with you on that.
No, not interested.
I like little tiny natural ones.
Right.
That's all I need.
I'm good.
Yeah, I don't need something ridiculous.
So, okay, so, yeah, so anyway.
How old was she?
I want to say she's in her.
Oh, I think she was like 41, 42 years old.
Actually, I think she was, so let's say 40.
Okay.
She had her shit together.
Scientologists, they have their shit together.
Of course.
Yeah, she's definitely.
She was sharp as a tack.
And we sat down, we started talking.
And this is what was so funny I had mentioned during our texts, She had said, you seem great.
You seem this.
I said, yeah, well, it's not all.
It cuts out.
It sounds.
I said, trust me, there's an issue.
And she's like, well, what's the issue?
I said, I'll mention it to you when we meet in person.
So we talked for about two hours.
Like we had dinner and about an hour and a half into it, let's say, hour and a half into it, maybe two hours.
She says, you seem so funny and great.
Like we were having a great time.
And she goes, she said, what's the issue?
And I went, what's the catch here, Cox?
I said, all right, here's the catch.
And I explained.
Like, you know, here's what's going on.
Boom, boom, boom.
I go through the whole on the run incarceration.
I knocked it.
I did it in 30 minutes.
I'm going to give you the 30 minute version because the two hour version will freak you out.
I said, I'm going to go with 30 minutes here.
And she goes, okay.
She goes, I'm ready.
I said, okay.
So I tell her the 30-minute version.
Boom.
Give her the 30-minute version.
And at the end of it, she goes, look, I'm not going to lie.
She said, that gives me pause.
She said, but I mentioned to you that I'm a Scientologist.
And some people have issues with that.
She said, I told you that up front because I wanted you to know that.
She said, but that's a big one.
I said, it is a big one.
And she goes, let me think about it.
Let me think about it.
She said, but it I think I'm going to be okay with it.
But let me think about it.
I have to kind of pass it by.
She had to consult with Xenu.
She had basically had to talk to, you know, she didn't say, in my opinion, she made it sound like she had to pass it by someone, right?
Yeah, she had to talk to Xenu, the galactic overlord.
I don't know who that is.
L. Ron Hubbard.
I understand.
I understand the mocking.
But the point is that we talked.
Listen, we talked for actually for another two hours and changed.
So about 30 minutes later, we're talking.
And I remember at one point she stopped and she just leaned in and she goes, Do you feel the chemistry between us?
And I went, I go, Yeah, it's like, that's nuts, right?
And she goes, It is.
It's crazy.
She was like, I never feel this way.
She goes, I feel this.
This is great chemistry.
And I go, Right?
So then this goes on.
We end up going into the bar.
We sit in the bar.
We talk for another hour in the bar and we're leaning in and talking.
And finally she says, Listen, she goes, I have to go.
Are you guys drinking?
At the bar?
Matt doesn't drink.
I know you don't drink, but did she drink?
I think she had like a.
Why?
Because she found me interesting?
No, because she's a Scientologist.
I'm interested to see if Scientologists drink.
I don't know if she drank or not.
She might have had a glass of wine.
I don't recall her drinking, to be honest, but whatever.
I'm into the details, Matt.
It's okay.
Okay.
So, well, we went to the bar.
We sat down.
I had a Diet Coke.
I don't know what she had.
So we were talking, but I mean, literally like another hour or so into that conversation, she ends up saying, she goes, look, it's late.
I'm going to have to go.
And honestly, she said, the chemistry between us is so overwhelming.
She goes, I feel like.
Like, we're gonna.
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She goes, I'm gonna kiss you here.
She goes, If I don't leave soon, and I was just like, I was like, Well, what you have to understand too, where we've got the masks, she goes to the church, she can't go to the church if she's had like contact with me, right?
So, they have all these rules about that they're trying to keep from getting like nobody in that in the church has gotten coveted, okay, because they're extremely stringent on the rules.
And so, she so, anyway, I said, Okay, I said, Yeah, okay, that's cool.
Um, and we leave.
And she gets in her car and she leaves and she says, Look, she goes, I'm going to call you tomorrow.
She said, When do you want to see each other again?
She said, Probably this weekend.
I mean, she said, I got to ask some people at the church about talking.
You know what I'm saying?
Talking, actually being with you, connecting with you.
I need to find out exactly what the rules are, how closely I can get to you, the whole thing.
She said, I need to find out exactly what those rules are.
She said, But yeah, probably this weekend.
She goes, I definitely want to see you again.
I said, Okay, cool.
So that's it.
The next day, she sends me a text.
She says, I had an amazing time.
You're an amazing guy.
The chemistry was overwhelming.
She said, I find you extremely attractive, interesting.
She says, You're just an amazing individual all the way around.
She goes, And I know that this isn't going to make sense at all.
She goes, But I'm afraid we're going to have to keep this in the front zone.
She said, It's just, I know it doesn't.
I can't explain why.
I just have to, it just can't go any further than where it is right now.
And I'm so sorry.
And she says, I understand if you'd be upset about that, but I would really like to keep you as a friend.
And I went, slow game.
So I said, I said, let me explain something.
My personal philosophy on having hot female friends is that there's just nothing more useless in the world than having a hot chick as a friend.
Because while they think you're building a friendship, I'm thinking, how am I going to fuck this chick?
So I said, it's absolutely useless for you to be a friend.
I said, but if you're serious about it, I'll make an attempt to be friends.
However, if it's the kind of friend that sends me, three texts a week to say, hey, what's up?
And I say, oh, everything's good.
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And that's it.
I said, I got enough of those useless friends already.
I said, now, if you want to actually be a friend.
Yeah, of course.
Why?
What do I care?
This chick's done.
So I said, you know, if you want to be, if you want to meet, have dinner, if you want to bounce business ideas, because she had some great business ideas.
Like when I talked to her about my artwork.
Is she rich?
I mean, I didn't get into her.
What kind of car did she drive?
The fuck is going on, bro?
Do you really sit there at the first date and say, so what's your financial set?
How much do you have in the bank?
What's in your 401k?
I don't ask any questions.
Yeah, that's how it works now, Matt.
Well, Scientologists aren't rich.
Yeah, they are, bro.
Are you kidding me?
The higher ups.
Bro, a lot of Scientologists are rich as fuck.
Not the ones that walk up and down the street in the fucking white clothes.
No, not those.
Those are just the slaves.
There's literally slaves in Scientology.
You don't know that?
Tell her you'll take the brain zapping test and shit if that's what they want.
Yeah, get audited.
Listen, they don't want me as a member.
Did she say she's a Christian?
I wouldn't be a member of any church that would have me as a member.
Did she say that she's ever seen any of your videos online?
No, she hadn't seen anything.
She didn't know anything about me.
Remember, she only knew my name was Matt.
That's all she knew until that night.
So Scientologists aren't allowed to use the Internet, from what I hear.
That's not true.
Bro, that's not true.
I talk to this chick all the time.
Does she have YouTube?
Yeah, she's got YouTube.
She's watched my stuff now.
Oh.
Oh, she's watched my stuff.
Listen, she's got like a real corporate job.
She doesn't work for Scientology.
She has a corporate job.
I mean, she it must have been a while ago, but I interviewed multiple people on here.
One of the guys, Ron Miscavige, I interviewed.
He's the dad of David Miscavige, who is the fucking overlord of Scientology.
Right.
You're probably the reason she won't fucking see me.
They probably found out I'm connected to you, and they're like, oh, no, he's connected to Danny Jones.
We're matchmaking over here.
Not matchmaking.
She destroyed my fucking match.
I've interviewed.
I've interviewed.
You set it up.
You know, we laid it up to you.
Anyways, all these guys, people tell me that the Scientologists, that maybe it's just the ones who live.
At the actual church, the people who live there, like their residents, they're not allowed to use the internet.
Like they have internet, but it's very limited.
Like they can't use YouTube or anything like that, and their search options are limited.
All right.
So Scientology is no more ridiculous than Christianity.
It is a little bit different.
I didn't say different, I didn't say it wasn't different.
Ridiculous?
I said it's no more ridiculous.
Right.
Well, then a man dying on the cross for our sins, raising up three days later.
We eat his bread.
We eat his flesh to cleanse ourselves.
Get out of here.
That's craziness.
The Bible actually has stories.
The Bible, which was written by the apostles four or 500 years after they had all died.
Right, an ancient relic full of basically fiction.
There's about eight or nine different gospels.
And then at the Council of, I think it was the Council of Troy, the Catholic Church said, oh, that's a bad one.
Let's go with the best of, out of the eight, let's go out of the eight to 12, let's go with these four.
Like they picked him.
There are other gospels that paint Jesus as a guy that strikes children blind for bumping into him in the street.
That's just a vicious.
No, there's a lot of fucked up shit in the Bible.
No, I'm not talking about the Bible.
I'm talking about the other gospels that didn't make the cut.
They don't paint Jesus as this sweet guy.
They don't paint him as the hippie stoner, let's all love and hug each other, hug it out.
I mean, they paint him vastly different.
So I'm saying, Scientology, does it sound kind of kooky?
Yeah, but so does any, if you really look at any other religion, they're all nuts.
None of them all make sense.
No, but Scientology is, I don't even think you can categorize it in the same realm as those religions because, first of all, it was created as a Business by a guy who is the most prolific writer of science fiction in the history of the world.
It sounds to me like you're almost talking about the Catholic Church.
How so?
How so?
The Catholic Church, like, don't they own banks?
Isn't it a massively rich corporation, the Catholic Church?
It's not a business.
It's not built like a Ponzi scheme like Scientology is, where you have to pay for certain levels to ascend to a certain height because you don't like their business.
It's literally built like a Ponzi scheme.
It's a business that.
Became tax free.
If it was, right, which is, by the way, gone through the courts and been deemed by your federal government that it is a church.
Right.
After they had, they basically had thousands of their members sue the IRS so they could achieve that tax free status.
Okay.
And how is that any different than.
So, Scientology, you know, one of the things I had heard about it was like there's like, like there's sex slaves and there's this and that.
You mean like having an entire portion of.
The Catholic Church priests give up all of their money to the Catholic Church and live with nothing, have no possessions.
That's kind of like slaves, isn't it?
It's crazy.
Or it's crazy what belief will do.
Wait a minute.
What about this?
What about this?
What about every time that a child is sexually molested, we just move the priest from one place so he can sexually molest more children?
And when there's more accusations, we move him again and again and again.
That's no different than the kind of stuff that's going on in Scientology.
I'm saying it's all whacked.
To say that, no, no, no, they're horrible and these other things are good.
Come on, bro.
Every preacher out there is robbing their church or parish blind.
I mean, it's constantly happening.
So, you know, to point one out because L. Ron Hubbard came up with it, I mean, yeah, okay.
It's not just because L. Ron Hubbard came up with it.
There's lots of crazy shit in Scientology that doesn't happen just like in every other religion.
Like, for example, if you leave Scientology, Or if you're in Scientology and you have someone in there that commits one of the signs that breaks one of the rules or leaves, you have to disconnect from them where you cannot have any communication with them or anybody else.
Like you have to literally disconnect completely.
It's I've had people on here who talked about this who have left, right?
I understand.
And I mentioned this chick who was in the church.
So here's what she had said when I said to her, I said, Well, I don't understand.
I said, You're you're on a date with me.
I'm like, You're not thinking of converting me.
She goes, I was married to a guy who's Muslim.
She goes, I was married to a Middle Eastern man who was Muslim.
She goes, for eight years.
She goes, he didn't go to the church.
She goes, and I've always been in Scientology.
This chick's father was a Scientologist.
She said, I never tried to convert him.
I never tried to get him in the church.
She goes, and I said, yeah, but I said, I have a friend named Stacy.
And Stacy told me that at some point, they will tell you, as you ascend, they will eventually tell you, you have to disassociate with anybody who's not Scientologist.
She goes, yeah, that's not true either.
It's not anybody who's not Scientologist.
It's only people who speak negatively about Scientology.
Absolutely.
That's what she said.
She said, if I'm with someone and they start talking negatively about Scientologists and try and get me to get out of Scientology, she goes, I have to have a conversation with them where I say, look, you have to stop this behavior or I just can't talk to you anymore.
Right.
You have a disconnect.
Right.
And to me, that makes sense.
Like if you're going to mock my religious belief, then I just can't be around you anymore.
And if you truly are a believer in anything, if I was a true believer in Catholicism and every time I hung out with Danny, he was like, oh, what's going on with Jesus?
Oh, hey, do your fingers hurt?
Do your hands hurt?
Where are the holes in your hands?
Hey, what's about stigmata?
And you started mocking me.
Then eventually I would say, Dan, you got to stop doing this.
And if you say, well, and I'm not going to, I'd say, okay, well, kick rocks.
We're done.
Okay, but what if you did an interview with somebody or wrote something online questioning Catholicism or questioning anything about it?
And then she has to disconnect from you completely.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know the complete I don't know exactly what it is.
I mean, you're trying to make it sound like mocking or like always like ridiculing it or whatever.
I mean, it's even if you question it publicly, they have to completely disconnect.
And if, like, I've had a guy on here who his entire family is still in Scientology, he left and that they, he hasn't had contact with any of them since.
Like, they, they do things where they send people out to his house with cameras to literally stalk him and follow him everywhere he goes.
And that happens to numerous people.
I mean, it, it may happen.
I didn't, I don't have enough. information to make a informed decision.
It's crazy how much more shit they do.
Like hiring private investigators to follow people around, armed, filming them, confronting them at their homes.
I mean, it's fucking wacky, bro.
Bad things happen.
Bad things do happen, especially in Scientology.
Everywhere.
I mean, I don't know.
We're not going to solve this.
We don't have to solve it.
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I need another Bud Light.
You need another bud?
Help me out.
Get ready for the paintings.
I mean, I want $275.
You have my PayPal.
Send $275 and your address, or you can give my email address.
I have more, and I'll make more.
But I've got like 10 of these things.
Can you grab it?
Yeah, they want to see it up close.
All right, hold on.
Ow.
Which one?
I like them all.
I like these.
Just grab one of them.
I like the hot pink one.
Yeah, put that up.
What did you do?
What did you do?
What did I do?
You tripped over all the fucking electric.
What do you expect?
What kind of electric shop is this?
No, we're not big time.
No one can hear you, Matt.
Get in front of your mic.
I'm telling Danny to go ahead and spring an extra 10 bucks and get the longer cord so that I don't show us what you got, Matt.
All right.
I don't know if you can see them.
Yeah.
So I have.
Can you see these?
Hold on.
Yeah, they look great.
They're cool.
Go back.
Go back farther.
Right there.
Yeah.
Put it right where your head would normally be.
Nice, right?
And you can go on my.
You can go to my Instagram.
Actually, I have pictures of them on my Instagram.
Do you?
Yeah.
Yeah, I have a bunch of them.
Beautiful, Matt.
Beautiful.
Set them back up.
Why are you looking for comments?
Where are the comments?
People don't know how you can't find a woman.
They said women love true crime.
Look, first of all, it's not that I can't find a woman.
It's just, listen, I'm 51 years old.
And look, when they're in there.
What the fuck?
You're looking at the negatives.
What are the negatives?
I mean, look, if I wanted to get some fatty, and I hate to say that, but if I wanted to get some road hard fat chick.
That looked like a fucking trucker, then yeah.
But I'm sorry, I have a little bit of standards.
You got a documentary and a fine arts degree.
You're fucking top tier.
I know.
You got millions of views on YouTube.
Yeah.
What more could you ask for?
I mean, you know, you got a good hairline.
All right.
If anybody wants one of these beautiful paintings from Matthew B. Cox.
Yeah, give him my painting.
Let us know.
I gave him the.
PayPal, what about or actually?
If anybody has any relationship advice, or if any of you, what are you doing?
Finding ladies out there on the internet want to hook up with Matt Cox, maybe set up a date, leave your number in the chat and we will call you live.
Nice, we'll call you live on the air.
Listen, please.
So, does anybody want to talk to Matt?
Put your phone number in there, put the number in there.
We're calling.
Hold on, we got another donation.
What's what give them my PayPal and my cash app for donations unbelievable.
All right, put in a put the doctor just donated a 99.99 for towards a real studio for Matt Cobb.
Nice.
Nice.
Unfortunately, that money went to him went to Danny.
Well, you asked them to donate it to me for my new cord that's longer so you don't trip on it.
Oh, God.
This guy.
You know what I'm gonna do?
Can they pay you in crypto?
Mm-hmm Bitcoin.
I don't have, I don't know.
You could pay me in Bitcoin.
Yeah, well, because you're rich.
I'm not.
How do I send to the moon, Alice?
How do I send a Bitcoin's almost at $60,000 right now?
GameStop to the moon.
Hey, how do I send this link to somebody?
Let me see your phone.
Share.
Yeah, I can't find it though.
Why does it have that thumbnail?
No, it's that one.
No.
Every time I do it, it's like a minute video.
Type in the person's name right there and send it.
Okay.
All right.
Does anybody want in the chat?
Anyone want a painting?
What?
Did you type his email address in?
Yeah.
A bunch of times.
All right.
Oh, so you did the Picasso on.
I see that's a Picasso.
So Matt's PayPal is if you want.
How much you charge it for the paintings?
$275.
And I'll ship them to you provided you're in the United States.
Drop $275 and your mailing address to contact.matthew.cox at gmail.com.
PayPal, that's his PayPal email.
Matthew, no, no.
Contact.matthew.cox at gmail.com.
Yeah, that's what's connected to my PayPal and to my Cash App.
Your Cash App is $CoxCon69.
Yeah, but it's connected to the same email address.
Same email address for Cash App.
Yeah.
So if you're going to start or if you want to buy one, if you or if you want to send me an email, let me know.
If you would like Matt, you can donate, send some money to Matt's PayPal, and he will do a live commissioned piece of fine art for you right here live on the podcast.
He'll draw it for us.
We can all watch it for how much?
How much is that one?
I have no idea, bro.
This is something he's got.
This is drop 50 bucks and we'll give you one of those.
I got a phone number.
You want to call it?
Screen it.
Make sure they're legit.
How am I supposed to screen it?
What do they say?
They just dropped the number?
They didn't say nothing?
No, they just dropped the page.
Yeah.
Huh?
I know.
Yeah, I get all kinds of people like send me random emails that like call me, bro.
And it's like a number or they just say crazy stuff and it's like, I saw you on, I saw your podcast.
You're amazing.
And like call me.
We could be cool, bro.
It's like, what are you doing?
I mean, I want to be your friend.
Yeah, but give me more than that.
Explain to me what's going on.
You sound like a psychopath.
You sent me a five word sentence.
Basically, I feel like I looked into your eyes and I could tell where kindred spirits call me.
Calling you psycho?
You're going to have me in a well somewhere asking me to rub lotion on my fucking skin.
Absolutely not.
Hey, do you think the Scientology girl will come on the podcast?
She would never come on the pod.
She's pretty.
Can we call her?
There's no.
Matter of fact, if I think even talking about her may have been.
Did someone just cash at me?
69 cents.
Nice.
Nice.
69 cents.
That's awesome.
They deserve a picture.
You should draw them a picture.
It was probably a dollar and it took money out.
It was hurtful, though, is what it is.
Okay.
So let me think.
What is her name?
Okay, let's go.
I'm currently doing a live podcast with concrete, period.
And Danny, comma, with concrete, comma, would like to call you, period.
What are your thoughts?
Question mark.
This should be good.
We're going to get a Scientologist live on the podcast, on the call in.
I hope she lets us call.
So have you guys hung out?
Never going to let you call.
Tell me this.
Have you guys seen each other since that first date?
No, she's not allowed to see you again.
You're done.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, you're done.
That check was way too hot.
Someone just sent me a dietologist.
Nice.
I mean, and the funny thing is, I know I'm supposed to be appreciative.
So I appreciate that.
Thank you very much.
But he's really not.
I'm just saying.
I think it's.
I have a guy that every time I post, he sends me $2.
Really?
Yeah.
One time he sent me $5.
He goes, because that was an exceptional video.
Didn't you?
Which I actually appreciate because it adds up.
It's a couple cups of coffee a month.
Didn't you just do some fucking commercial for some home security company?
Yeah, yeah, right?
So, a home security company fired you and flew you out to Oklahoma, right?
Well, it's called Home Title Lock.
So, it's like Life Lock, but for your home.
So, it protects people against the crimes that I actually committed.
I actually met Newt Gingrich.
What?
Yeah, Newt Gingrich, right?
Like, Newt Gingrich was like 100 years old when I was young.
And so, when they told me Newt Gingrich is going to be interviewing you, I went, he's still alive.
And they were like, he's 77.
But yeah, he's actually, he's, he's, He's doing good.
He's doing well.
I was like, that's nuts.
Wow.
What was that like?
It was fine.
He was a nice guy.
There were two FBI agents there.
It's nice to talk to an FBI agent when they're not looking for you.
So I met a bunch of people.
It was a huge production.
They flew me in.
I stayed two nights.
I only worked one day.
So it was cool.
It was in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, which is really a nice city.
I really felt like Oklahoma City was going to be scummy.
Bro, everywhere I went, nice, clean, everybody's polite.
Well, that is really nice.
Huh?
I've never been.
I mean, I've been before, but it was when I was flown in by the BOP and Con Air, and they unloaded me into the holdover for two weeks and then loaded me back on the plane and flew me out.
So I didn't get to see a lot of the city on that trip.
You get to see many sights, huh?
No, no.
I couldn't.
Matter of fact, it was freezing cold when they caught me, too.
So I couldn't.
The windows, I remember, were frozen up.
So you couldn't even see out the window.
It was all white.
So I got to see nothing.
That's that bites.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know So any more hot dates besides a Scientology girl No, no nothing that I'm no not really So you're on the up and up at least you're feeling better now.
I mean, I'm starting to you kind of I'm starting to pass the depression.
Well, I am because I'm starting to basically come to the conclusion that you know like I was holding out that The thing with Jess and I like was gonna work out Like, she's going to figure it out.
She screwed up.
She's going to come back.
She's going to apologize.
I'm going to give her some shit, but I'm going to be okay.
I'm going to be like, look, you got to figure this out.
Bond Movie Debate00:02:34
We got to work this out.
But, you know, and I was going to give it a hard time, but the bottom line is this I'm at the point now where I realize that's probably not going to happen.
No, it's definitely not going to happen, Matt.
So, yeah, you need to move on.
Right.
$2.
Someone just sent me $2.
That's great.
Nice.
You might not sell one painting on this podcast, Matt.
The last podcast, you made like five grand.
Right?
No, no.
I sold the one painting for $2,200.
I actually sold that painting twice.
I had to paint another guy bought it for $700.
I painted him another painting.
Damn.
You made at least $4,000 in that last live podcast.
I made $4,000.
What are you talking about?
Oh, you're right.
No, you didn't make any money.
I forgot.
No, I was listening.
Whoa, whoa.
Someone just sent me.
Someone did send me.
What?
Whoa, whoa.
Wait, wait, wait.
Last time you guys made some cracks I didn't catch.
What was that?
I later saw it later when people told me.
Did you know that Danny said this?
I didn't know if I was speaking at a turn because the feds are listening and you owe them money.
Oh, no, I pay them.
I'm good.
Okay, well, somebody just sent me money.
Actually, yeah, someone sent me money.
How much money?
Matthew Clements sent me $266.
They took money out for this.
That's perfect.
Which color does he want?
Matthew.
Matthew Clements.
Matthew Clements.
Do you want pink?
Do you want dark?
The doctor sent me money, too.
What's that middle one?
What color is that?
Maroon?
It's like a purple.
It's like a maroon purple.
No, no, which one?
It's a Merlot.
Yeah, that's a Merlot.
It's magenta.
We got a punk pink, a Merlot, and two oranges.
I actually like the pink.
I like the pink too.
Pink pops out the most.
Mr. Clemens, what color would you like?
Let us know in the chat.
Got to let me know.
The guy that sent you 69 cents wants to know what your favorite Bond movie is.
My favorite Bond movie?
Yeah, that's what he said.
Oh, man, that's tough.
That's a tough one.
Do I want to say Casino Royale?
I don't want to say that.
That's a tough question, bro.
He paid 69 cents.
I'd have to watch.
Listen, and it's a tough one, man.
I haven't seen the new one.
New one might be amazing.
I heard it was really good.
I don't know.
What about Spectre?
Spectre's pretty good.
Spectre was good, but I really liked Casino Royale.
Sixty-Nine Cent Bid00:15:14
Casino Royale was pretty good.
Have you seen any Bond movies?
Have you never seen a Bond movie?
Yeah, I'm sure.
Seen a couple Bond movies.
Are you serious?
You guys don't know anything.
I love James Bond.
Yeah.
I've always loved James Bond.
I haven't watched a Bond movie since I was.
Are you serious?
I was 12 maybe last time.
Who the hell plays Bond now?
I mean, Daniel Craig.
Yeah, Daniel Craig.
Yeah, he's like a little British guy.
A little British guy.
He's like a kind of little.
He's little looking, right?
He's.
He's.
He's frail.
Frail?
He's James Bond.
Daniel Craig.
Google him.
Tell the crew I said hi.
So, Jen, Craig, Jen just said to tell the crew I said hi.
Who's Jen?
Jen is the Scientologist.
She said, Not tonight, but thanks for the invite.
We'll catch up tomorrow.
Tell the crew I said hello.
What's up, Jen?
Howdy, Jen.
Turn in.
Tune in.
Hit the chat.
Are you.
I can't.
It's picking up all this crap.
Hold on.
Are you watching?
Period.
It's on live.
Period.
N64.
Is she.
Does she know Grant Cardone?
What are you talking about?
He's a Scientologist.
I don't know.
She doesn't know anybody.
She lives in Tampa.
She doesn't know Grant Cardone.
Grant Cardone's a Scientologist?
Yeah.
We're talking about you.
Period.
And Scientology.
What?
No, we're not.
You're talking about Scientology.
I'm not.
We're both on Scientology.
I'm nothing.
You have an issue with Scientology.
I have no issue with Scientology.
So you would be a Scientologist?
I mean, if I believed in organized religion in any way, I mean, I'm not opposed to it.
I mean, honestly, the idea of Dianetics isn't like it's a very, it's all about bettering yourself.
I like that idea.
And getting rid of all the negative resistance in your life, all the negative influences in your life.
I like that.
It's a very, yeah, I love it too.
The general idea of Dianetics, the problem is once you get.
Once you get past that, then you start getting all of these crazy, like, how clear are your OT level?
And you start giving them all this info during the auditing sessions.
The auditing sessions are weird when you hold those, like, you have to hold these metal rods and they interrogate you and they ask you these questions.
I don't know anything about that.
It's kind of crazy.
But you would try it, though.
I'd try anything pretty much.
I mean, with the exception of you.
I think Scientology should get Matt Cox.
I think he would be a great addition to the religion.
What are you doing?
And the prison.
Belief okay, so somebody just said, I will buy this.
Hugh, this guy, Hugh.
Have you seen the documentary?
He said, I'll buy.
He just said the documentary.
Did you?
He just said The Prison of Belief.
Yeah, The Prison of Belief.
It's an HBO special.
Have you not watched it?
No, I haven't.
Bro, you need to watch it.
It's a fucking amazing documentary.
I think it's the same guy who did the Enron documentary, The Smartest Guys in the Room.
That was a great documentary.
Same guy, I think.
Pretty sure.
Okay.
It's honestly, it's one of the best documentaries I've seen in a long time.
No, I've seen a lot, but that HBO Scientology one was fucking bonkers.
And I had that guy, Mike Rinder, and another guy, John Sweeney, on the show recently.
They both did lots of work on Scientology.
What are you doing?
Should we end this thing now?
Oh, sorry.
Go ahead.
What's up?
Nothing.
I'm wondering what I'm doing.
Am I offending you?
You're just sitting there scrolling on your phone.
I mean, I'm barely listening to you.
I barely, somebody sent me $3.
That's great.
So I barely, Hugh, yeah, somebody, he's now, he's trying to talk to you now, Alex.
Gibbon, whatever Alex Gibney, that's what his name is.
Yeah, is the director now.
He's he's talking to he should call in.
I mean, you can call in.
Yeah, have this guy call in.
Tell this guy what's his number.
Let's let's have him call in.
Maybe he wants to talk.
Matt Cox doesn't want to listen to anybody, he just wants to hear himself talk.
I'm listening to everything.
What a dick.
So Jen says she's not watching, by the way.
She's like, she's not allowed to watch.
She's not not allowed.
I promise you, they're talking about her in the chat.
She doesn't have YouTube.
She is.
She's not allowed to have YouTube.
She's allowed to have YouTube.
You're not.
Okay, hold on.
Let me ask her.
Ask her.
Are you allowed to use the internet?
Hold on.
The real internet.
Do you want me to ask her?
Yeah, I type it.
We'll be here all night.
Yes.
Okay.
Danny says you're not watching because you're not allowed to use YouTube or the internet, period.
That's not true.
Comma.
Right?
Question mark.
Because then she will find out the truth about Scientology.
Like she hasn't already fucking.
She's a business person.
I mean, she's like working on it.
A lot of Scientologists are business persons, people.
So you think they don't hear anything?
So you think they don't hear anything?
So you think they hear anything?
So you think they hear anything?
You're saying you're making an argument, opposing argument?
Well, first of all, my argument is kind of like comedy.
I'm kind of just, I'm halfway joking.
I'm halfway just like trying to push her buttons.
But it is true to an extent that I know some people aren't allowed to do the research.
Maybe that's old.
Maybe they don't do that anymore.
Listen, she seemed fine.
She didn't seem crazy.
No.
No.
You would join Scientology for her if she's like, Matt, Matt, come live with me.
Let's move in.
I'm a guy.
What if she goes, Matt?
I'm a guy.
I pretty much do anything for a Christian.
This girl goes, of course I do.
Matt Cox.
I'd fake it.
Move in with you.
I'd be Jewish.
I'd become Jewish if it, listen, if you were a Muslim, I'm willing to, let's start praying five times a day.
I mean, let's do it.
What does she look like?
Tomorrow.
That's what I need to know.
This lady right here.
This lady goes, tomorrow, Matt Cox, move in with you.
She said, not true.
Give me your babies.
Hear me?
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
She said, not true.
The question was not true.
LOL.
I'm not believing it until I get through her phone.
You go through her phone.
You're crazy.
So, all right.
Okay.
If what?
Have your babe.
First of all, I'm 51 years old.
Okay.
She's like, okay, let's ridiculous.
Hold on.
Matt Cox.
She wants to spend the rest of her life with you.
She wants to have five kids with you, 10 kids with you.
She sounds more and more sane all the time.
Live happier ever.
Happy.
Happily ever after.
Happily ever after.
But you have to join Scientology.
I mean, yeah, why not?
Sure, let's do this.
All right.
I think you would be a great addition to Scientology, honestly.
You could be like the new John Travolta because they have, they try to recruit celebrities to try to promote their.
I'm not a celebrity.
I'm like the anti celebrity.
You kind of are a celebrity.
You're kind of a celebrity.
No, I'm like infamous, not a slut.
Didn't you go to a Starbucks and some guy like bum rushed you because you saw that you're Matt Cox?
You're a celeb.
Some guy, but he knew me because Austin saw you at the airport.
He just recognized it.
Austin isn't impressed by me.
It doesn't matter.
He still knows who you are.
He tolerates me.
I mean, it's different when people recognize you.
You're famous.
I can't do this.
Okay, so what else are we doing?
We're selling paintings.
We're not.
We sold one paint.
So which painting does that kid want that gave you?
I don't know.
He hasn't commented on it.
I didn't see him talk about it.
All right.
Does anybody else want a painting?
No?
Maybe so?
Hold on.
We need to sell some more paintings.
What are you doing now, Matt?
I'm reading something that somebody sent me.
I don't.
I don't even know what this is.
You tell me.
What is this?
Somebody.
Let's call somebody.
Something in the.
What is this?
Somebody sent me a screenshot of something.
What the hell does that say?
Ha ha ha ha.
Hope he's rotting in lockup.
Maybe some lucky person will stumble across his stash and keep it.
Who is that?
So he's saying.
Jamie Dahill.
I'm saying it.
Who's rotting in lockup?
I'm not.
Who sent you this?
You know how to use the phone?
We're doing a podcast, Matt.
What the fuck are you doing?
It's about the podcast.
Somebody wants you to do a painting of Frank Amadeo.
Ooh, I'm dressed up like the notorious B.I.G. with the gold crown.
Oh, fuck yeah, Matt.
Do it right now.
Do it right now.
I got on what?
A little thing?
Yes.
Did you hear what all that shit was?
For what?
We'll do it.
I'll walk you through it.
Get a canvas real quick.
You can't paint that.
Get a canvas and a.
You could probably sketch you something.
Yeah, just sketch it.
Nothing recognizable.
That's fine.
As long as Matt Cox did it, that's all it matters.
That's fine.
Send the money.
Send it.
Let's call it the canvas.
Get the canvas, bro.
Get the canvas.
Let him get the fucking canvas.
I want you to draw Amadeo.
Somebody will buy it.
You brought canvas.
Are you good?
So if nobody buys it, I'll buy it.
How much?
50 bucks.
Send the money and I'll sketch the fucking thing.
Just do it, Matt Cox.
Oh, for Christ's sakes.
You're irritating as fuck all.
You're a grumpy old man, Matt Cox.
Does everyone understand how hard you are?
You've got to be sensitive.
I have to deal with fucking Oscar the Grouch over here.
Yeah, let's paint something.
They want to see the painting some more.
You gotta hold one up there.
For everybody listening, not watching, Matt's over in the corner getting his canvas and his easel and his paintbrushes.
And he's over there.
Matt reminds me of.
Has anybody watched Lord of the Rings?
Have you seen Lord of the Rings?
He's like Tyrion Lannister.
He's just so smart and articulate and little.
That's what I'm talking about.
And cute.
What?
The canvas, the markers.
I'm ready to see what you got going on.
Nothing going on, man.
Okay.
Here he is.
He's back.
I might bid in on it.
He's back with the canvas and the paint pens.
All right, Matt.
I'm stressed.
Do you need a reference picture?
He's stressed.
Matt, stress everybody.
I mean, there's nothing you need reference for.
Yeah, I do need for the guy.
No, I want you to draw Matt.
What's his name?
Amadeo?
Frank Amadeo from Mental.
Only Mental.
I don't want you copying nothing.
They want the biggie version.
Just first draw his face, okay?
You can't tell them what they want, so they'll buy it.
Draw his face.
What am I doing?
You're drawing a mental portrait.
Listen, granted, this is better than prison, but it's like, what does my life come to?
You're a whore for YouTube.
Exactly.
I mean, it's just.
You're a YouTube prostitute now.
Draw the fucking painting, Matt Cox.
I used to have 12 guys that worked for me.
We were kicking out millions of dollars in bad paper every fucking month.
Do you understand?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You got it.
And now I'm taking shit from fucking Danny and Hat Rack.
Draw fucking shit.
Actually, Hat Rack, out of everybody in the room, including Austin, because I can just hear him snickering, Hat Rack is actually.
The most sane person in the room.
Except for this chick, she hasn't said a fucking thing since she got here, so I don't know anything about it.
It's not her job to say a thing, Matt.
You're the star here.
You're the one that's supposed to be entertaining the crowd.
Yeah.
Okay.
Honestly.
Look at this thing.
Look at that.
It's all white.
You've got to get the paint in there.
Is that how it works?
I think so.
I hear the whispering.
All right.
Frank Amadeo with the biggie hat coming up.
Let's see what he's got going here.
Oh, he's taking a break.
He's scrolling on his phone.
They're just nice paint markers.
The decad colors.
Oh, fuck.
Come on, Matt.
Okay, well, this is.
That was the Scientologist chick.
What'd she say?
No, forget it.
No, I'm doing this.
Tell me what she said.
Forget it.
Pick something I'm supposed to do.
Can you do two things at the same time?
Can you fucking ink your marker and tell me what she said?
I'm inking.
Look at the ink on that.
That's nice.
Wow.
That's beautiful.
A lot of ink.
Can somebody hold this up for him while he paints it?
Shane, go hold it for him.
Don't, don't, don't.
Stop letting him order people around.
Put it on there, okay?
This fucking guy.
Tell him, man.
We need the live view of you doing this.
You hold it up.
Can I get the stuff ready?
Yeah, go ahead.
Fuck.
What a.
Oh, jeez.
Oh.
I feel so bad for your wife.
Fuck.
Shout out to Lexi.
I saw her in the chat.
I feel horrible for her.
She's got to be going through hell.
She's made some bad decisions.
She'll take half.
She probably.
Put in the work.
I'll tell you that.
Yeah, she's earned it.
She's earned whatever she can end up.
The warden runs the show over there.
I'm hoping she's got like a 10 year plan.
You know?
She's 5 in to a 10 year plan.
No, she's already like 11 in.
You've been dating her for 11 years?
Yeah.
Oh, fuck, boy.
She's putting in the time.
Real recognized, real Matt Cogg.
The other one's called Pasco?
Pasco?
Pasco pens.
Pasco pens?
Pasco pens, yeah.
So they don't have Pasco pens at.
They have them at.
They're at Michael's.
No, they don't have them in Michaels.
Really?
I used to always buy Posca pens for Michaels because I used to do a little art on my surfboards with the Posca pens.
I assure you, I asked.
They don't carry them.
That's weird.
Maybe they.
She said, oh, these are just as good.
They're not.
Really?
By the way, they're not as good.
It's all right.
We'll make it work.
They're pretty good.
We'll make it work.
These are good.
These actually work pretty good.
Aren't you guys going to keep talking?
Yeah, I'm going to walk everybody through it.
How many people are even watching this thing?
It doesn't matter.
350.
Are you serious?
There's that many lonely souls watching Danny?
They're watching Matthew Cox.
90% of them right now are in the studio.
They're watching Matthew Picoxo.
What up, Danny?
You fucking asshole.
I love it when they really fucking go.
So answer me.
I want to talk to you about art while you're doing this, Matt.
So when you went to college for your fine arts degree, you went to USF, right?
Yes.
You know all this.
So I know, but I want to talk.
I'm interested in it.
So when you go for a fine arts degree, what kind of art?
Like, what do you, when you say, I'm Matt Cox, hi, I want to get my degree in fine arts, is there different categories of fine arts?
Because your style is obviously very unique.
Like, me personally, I'm a fan of the abstract looking art that you can't really tell what the fuck's going on.
Like, Pollock.
What's his name?
Jackson Pollock.
Jackson Pollock.
I love Jackson Pollock's work with the paint splattered everywhere.
You don't know what's going on, but you look at it, and it just fucking grabs you by the throat because you just want to stare at it, and you can see whatever you want in it.
But your style is more like comic book style or like Lost Surfboard style.
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Like, back in the day, Lost Surfboards.
Or like pop art, which would be more reminiscent of Andy Warhol.
Or, uh, uh, Roy Lichtenstein, Lichtenstein, Lichtenstein, yeah.
So, there's, there are, you know, those, uh, guys that are like talking to your mic, talking to your try to talk to your mic at least, yeah.
Okay, so, yeah, that would be more.
So, there's a guy, actually, there's a guy, uh, Jason Skelton, uh, in Tampa, he's like huge.
So, what inspired you to want to become a fine artist?
You're saying the fine artist thing, okay?
Um, I get your mic closer.
I mean, what, what?
Inspired me is that yeah, like what made you want?
Was there somebody who you saw recently?
No no, when you first started in college and you wanted to be because I could be, I first started it didn't?
It started when I was in and and when I was a kid.
So who was your first inspiration?
Who's I want to be?
Like that?
Was there anybody that you want to be like?
Yeah, Frank for Zetta, Frank for Zetta yeah, and Boris uh, I forget his.
Uh Boris, whatever his last name was Boris no, Boris is his last name, I think.
Anyway yeah, Frank for Zetta.
Yeah, can you look him up real quick so we can see some pictures of him?
How the hell do you spell that?
If you put even come close, it'll come up right.
Yeah what, there's not many people like that.
Frank for Zetta, He did a lot.
Yeah.
Versetta.
No, not V with an F. F. Fur.
Fresetta.
F-R-E-S-E-T-T-A.
Just type that.
I think that's what it is.
Frosetta.
Yeah.
There you go.
With an A. Ah.
Frazzetta.
Frazzetta.
American fantasy science.
Click on images.
Fuck reading it.
14, 15 years old.
I loved his stuff.
I used to read comic books.
Oh, yeah.
He illustrated a ton of comic books.
That's like old.
If you're going to go to like Man of War covers or the Rumple Mints guy.
Ooh, that looks like a fucking magic card.
He's awesome.
I wonder if he did this.
What?
Look at this.
I'll tell you.
And then look at the Rumble.
Watch the Rumble Mints logo.
Have you ever had Rumble Mints, Matt Cox?
No, I don't know what that is.
It's a shitty liquor.
It's an awesome liquor.
It is pretty awesome.
All right, with their logo.
What am I doing?
What am I drawing?
We're doing Frank Amadeo with the Biggie Crown.
I got 10 bucks.
I got 10 bucks from Horton.
Cool.
It's the same.
Yeah, what?
The Batman.
Arresting Gary Sullivan.
I actually have this guy who wants me to paint Batman arresting Gary Sullivan.
Wow, we just fucking exposed.
So Rumplements basically copied a Frank Forsetta painting for their logo, for one of their pictures.
You remember that band Mano War?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you remember it that vividly?
What the fucking posters look like?
Look at these.
Look at their album covers.
Hold on.
Look at this.
All right, Matt, come on, let's go.
What am I doing?
We're doing Frank Amadeo.
And what's he wearing?
Wait, show me the picture.
Wait, let's do Frank Amadeo's face with the biggie crown.
The biggie crown and the chain.
That's it.
Okay, hold on.
Can I get a reference picture for Frank?
I have them.
I've got it.
I already have it.
Got one for Frank, so let's go with the reference photo.
So, Frank Forsetta.
And who else?
Boris.
Yeah, Van, whatever.
Just put in Boris Art.
Boris Art.
Something's going to come up.
I forget his last name.
What do you want me to look up?
Never mind.
Don't worry about it.
Boris.
Okay, what am I doing?
Oh, wait.
Let me think.
So what's the difference between someone like you and someone like Jackson Pollock?
He's dead.
I'm only I mean your fucking paint style.
I mean, he's completely abstract.
It's well, what was he like?
Do you know anything about him?
Did you have to study him at all?
What the fuck?
What am I supposed to do, bro?
I mean, I can't what am I there you go.
Get creative.
Here, you can work around it.
Okay, I'm just saying it's not like a perfect canvas and that bothers me, but that's fine.
All right, so we're gonna go with uh, you guys want to have the biggie?
This, oh, you know what?
I should swap his face.
Okay, never mind.
Here we go, everybody.
Matt Cox is he's doing the sketch now.
It's going on.
I'm walking, I'm doing a walk, I'm doing a play by play.
Am I doing the whole head, just the head and the crown?
That's it.
I would do, yeah, I think so.
Okay, do a bust.
Know what a bust is?
I know what a bust is.
Okay.
I'm gonna get the audio.
Yeah, that's beautiful.
Look at that.
Walk us through it while you're doing it, Matt.
I'm sketching Amadeo.
This is the worst.
I can't.
That's awesome.
You guys are killing me.
This is awesome.
We need to take some calls while he's painting.
Nobody wants to call.
Somebody give us your number.
We'll call you while Matt does this painting.
We'll call the first motherfucker that puts their number in the chat.
I got numbers.
Frank Amadeo people love him people do love him he's the emperor the emperor Wow, that's great.
So he's already got the face pretty much sketched out How do I do send Austin the number?
Yeah Send him on like a paper airplane.
Yeah, write it on here and show it and give it to him I Need a pen.
I mean marker What happened to the pen you were writing with earlier?
I didn't write this Matt did it's right there All right, so Matt's got the hair.
He's doing the hair right now.
He's already got the face, the shoulders.
He's doing the outline.
This is a great fucking painting or sketch.
He's doing the biggie crown.
This person put that in the chat like 20 fucking times.
They're going to be stoked.
Really?
All right.
Let's give it to Austin so we can call him in.
I want to talk to him while Matt's doing the sketch.
There's like a hundred numbers coming in now.
Is there?
Yeah.
Well, let's do this guy first.
Who?
The guy that you were just looking at who put it in 20 times.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about the painting, I mean.
Oh, oh, okay.
No.
The painting.
Just pick one, bro.
All right, we're calling Lou Bob.
I mean, how about you, Austin?
Just pick one and call him.
You see the numbers?
Yeah, Austin's got the chat pulled up.
Yeah, call him up.
They said you look parched, Matt.
You need a drink?
Matt, I got some tequila right here.
I don't need I have Casamigos tequila.
Is it a drink?
George Clooney.
I think we should get him drunk for the first time, though, on this podcast.
It's against his parole, probably.
No, he's allowed to drink.
Actually, I think you're not supposed to drink, but I don't think they give a shit.
They're really not paying attention.
Show us what you got so far.
Show us what you have so far.
Wow, look at that.
The number you are trying to reach is no longer in service.
Fake number.
Throw another one.
That's fucking great, Matt.
This dude is talented.
This is silliness.
So silly look at his little tiny arms.
I honestly love this Can I have this for my shelf my bookshelf?
What's wrong?
What's going on?
I'll pay you a hundred bucks for this you kidding me as long as nobody outbids me I Got a hundred on this painting this drawing the person that requested this wants to call in I'm bidding a hundred for this fuck them hundred yeah, I like this.
Oh fuck you better have cash Who are we calling?
Do you know the name, Austin?
What is Dave?
Hayden?
All right.
Oh, the Jets.
We need the Jets.
The jet plane.
This is good.
The TextNow subscriber you are trying to reach is not available.
Please leave your message after the tone.
Hang up, nerd.
Um.
Horton just sent another $10 for something.
This is fucking dope, Matt.
This is a great piece of art right here.
He's got like the rays coming out of Frank's head, the orange rays.
This is sick.
Now, can you make his crown?
Do you have a gold marker over there?
Oh, there you go.
If you donate $10 in the chat, we'll call you.
Cool.
If you give a real number.
Yeah, if you give a real number, we'll call it whatever number you put in there.
It doesn't have to be real.
Max and the number.
Show us what you got so far.
The progress.
This is beautiful.
Look at that.
Wow.
You made him look buff.
Fuck yeah.
You guys are so funny.
Oh my gosh.
We'll take bids on this.
I got 100 on this one.
What are you thinking, Matt?
What am I thinking?
Yeah, turn the mic towards you.
I'm thinking I should have stayed in school and I shouldn't have committed fraud.
What do you mean?
You got a fucking master's degree.
A master's degree?
You got a bachelor's?
You got a BFA?
I have a fine arts degree.
Hey, how are we doing?
Hey, how's it going, man?
Awesome.
Thanks for calling in.
We called him.
Beautiful.
Yeah, I really honored and enjoyed a lot of Matt's stuff.
Do you really?
Put your headphones on, Matt, so you can hear this guy, okay?
Dude, it's me.
I feel like everybody's yelling at me.
Matt's getting a portal.
I got walked in.
People are being yelled at.
What's going on?
Let me know.
Matt can hear you now.
What's up?
Do you have any relationship advice for him?
What's up?
No, I've really enjoyed Matt's stuff over the past few months.
And here's one of the things, especially when it came down to the situation with Jess and stuff, which is my ex's last name.
You know, seeing these kind of things happen and everything, and knowing everything that he has gone through and done in the past, him coming to a point where realizing that standing in honor is important to me is that's really where everybody needs to achieve to be.
That's some good advice.
What's your name, man?
Brian Parker.
Brian Parker.
Where are you from?
Where do you live?
Well, right now I live just south of Tampa, down by Fort Myers.
Originally from Michigan.
Okay.
But, you know, looking at being deep in all this stuff.
When I first came to Florida, I moved to Everglade City.
That was like, that's where they were bringing all the drugs and stuff.
And people were kind of looking at me sideways, you know what I'm saying?
You know, until I figured out what was going on there.
Yeah.
And it's an amazing life down here in Florida living on the water.
How old are you?
I am 51 now.
So I can kind of sympathize.
I can sympathize with Matt a little bit, although I'm 5'7, so I mean, I guess I'm a giant.
He's a giant.
You're a giant.
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He is.
God, he can be 5'8 with a good pair of shoes.
Yeah.
No, well, you know, I don't even need a good pair of shoes, but, you know, in my eyes, with what he's gone through and where he's come to mentally, you know, somebody from the Church of Scientology, good God, you know, they're supposed to be extending to a higher spiritual level.
In my viewpoint, Matt has already ascended to a much higher spiritual level than many of them because he's realized what things are really about.
He's learning about who he really is, where he's really at, and that's really what it's all supposed to be about.
What do you mean?
What do you mean when you say who he really is?
Explain that.
Who he really is.
When I say that, it's because we are birthed or born into this world with a misconception and given a playbook that we're supposed to.
Follow, and it's never really about who we really are inside.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
And so we have to come to a point in life where we sit back and go, wait a second, who am I really?
Am I supposed to be following this little playbook?
Is that really what is laid out for me in my life, even though I see everybody around me following the same script?
And you kind of sit back and go, okay, wait a minute, who am I really?
Yeah.
Instead of being told who you are and what you have to do.
You've got to decide that for yourself.
Hell yeah.
Matt, what do you think about that?
Sure.
Have you ever taken psychedelic mushrooms?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
That can matter to me.
No, I'm asking you.
You.
I know Matt hasn't.
Yeah, I did try them a couple times.
The first time, actually, I had started, I tried acid.
I had just gotten out of.
Hell yeah.
I had been in the Marine Corps, gone through most of boot camp, and saw what it was all about and said, Yeah, this ain't too cool.
I'm leaving this shit.
And they said, Oh, we'll send you to Leavenworth making little rocks out of big rocks.
I said, Okay, you've got my address.
So, anyway, I left.
And before I got back to the house that night, somebody said, Hey, So I said, okay, cool.
I tried it.
Nothing happened after 20 minutes.
So I tried another hit.
Yeah, so that was an interesting experience.
But to me, you don't need those things to really connect to who you really are, where you're really from.
I think it's really about the experiences you go through in life and things like that.
And you know what?
One of the things that I've noticed listening to Matt, listening to many other people, Is that these people that live the ordinary life?
You graduate high school, you go to college, you start a family, yada, yada, yada.
You know what?
That's boring shit.
Nothing ever happens there.
People that freaking go out on the limits and really try to accomplish things that are kind of fringe, that's where your amazing stories come from.
That's where your amazing experiences come from.
And those are the things that really teach you about yourself.
I've said that many times.
That's profound.
What kind of weed are we smoking on tonight, my man?
I don't know about profound, but I think it's definitely true.
If you want to hang out, you want to have dinner with somebody, you don't want to have a dinner with the guy that's an accountant that he graduated high school.
He married his college sweetheart.
They had 3.5 kids or 2.5 kids.
He got a job working at IBM, isn't it, the accounting department, and he teaches Little League.
He's a wonderful guy, and God bless him.
He's the backbone of America, and we need middle class.
Upper middle class people to run this country.
But the truth is, that's a guy that after dinner with him, you want to shoot yourself in the head.
Now, the guy that's had three DUIs, right?
And been arrested a couple of times.
And he was maybe.
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He had a couple of banners.
Yeah, he's red.
You know, that's the guy that you're like, this guy's got some stories.
He's pretty cool.
Yeah, this guy, you know, I mean, he's obviously, he's an ally.
Maybe he's Gary Sullivan, maybe he's not.
Maybe.
Maybe.
That's the guy that you go, now this guy's been through some shit.
He could tell me some stories.
Well, that first guy that you described, that's the guy that I call the good slave.
Yeah, nice.
The good slave.
Okay.
Cool, man.
Well, hey, thanks for calling, man.
I really appreciate your time.
We enjoyed hearing your words of wisdom.
And keep watching the show.
Oh, absolutely.
All right.
I'll bounce back over here, too.
Be blessed.
Have a great night.
Appreciate it.
That guy was cool.
That guy was super cool.
All right, Austin, call somebody else.
That was a good one, Austin.
We got a good vibe going here tonight.
Yeah.
This painting is turning out great.
Matt's got these crazy fucking ultraviolet rays shooting out of Frank's head.
Fuck, this is good.
I'm already tired.
This is better than I thought.
His hands are getting tired.
He's got to raise some money here.
This is horrible.
No, this is good, man.
We need to get the person who suggested this.
That guy.
No, they won't send the number.
They want to email the number.
Yeah, email to me.
Email to danielconcrete.com.
There you go.
They probably don't want it in the chat, right?
That's fine.
Here, somebody just threw 10 bucks and put their phone number in.
Call them, Austin.
Yeah, yeah, call the guy who just donated 10 bucks.
Marcin.
Somebody donated 10 bucks, said, let's get on that Jason painting.
Oh, I know.
That's.
Oh, oh, I know.
Call this guy.
I know who that is.
He didn't give the number.
Listen, I designed his Jason painting.
Really?
I already designed it.
I ordered it from you.
Hello.
Hey, what's going on, bro?
Hey, what's up, guys?
How are you guys doing?
Good, man.
How are you?
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Man, my name is Alex, man.
I'm originally from Romania.
Watching you guys.
I've never heard Alex.
Alex wants this for his girlfriend.
She loves Jason.
Oh, really?
I'm going to show you my.
Look, I came in.
Listen, even showing you the Jason thing.
You're going to give me a hard time about it.
But it's my take on Jason, like a new modern looking kind of.
When I'm done with it, I'm going to do it in magenta, like that blood red, kind of dark magenta with hot pink.
It's Merlot.
It's not Merlot.
The tube says magenta.
So I got a super cool take on Jason.
It's going to be cool.
You're just not going to think it's cool.
What's your name again, man?
My name is Alex, bro.
Hey, do you have any words of wisdom for us?
No, I just want to ask Matt a question, man.
About the real estate, if he doesn't mind answering.
The question is like, what does he think the next bubble is going to burst?
Is the market going to fall or is it going to keep on going up with the mortgages right now?
Because everything is selling like crazy.
Everybody is buying like crazy.
The rates are down.
How long does he think this is going to last or what does he predict for the future?
Is it going to be crashing like in 2008 or is it going to be going down slowly or what's his take on it?
Oh, I think it's going to crash.
I think it's going to be.
2008 all over again.
I figure there's probably, they could probably keep it propped up for another, what, 12 months to 18 months maybe?
But I mean, how long can you just keep pumping money into a system until it eventually, you know, crashes?
So do you think it's going to be like 2008 or it's going to be worse, especially with this $2 trillion bill that they passed with the inflation coming up?
Do you think it's going to be worse than 2008?
I don't know.
Or is it going to be something like 2008?
I honestly, it's just a gut feeling.
Like I don't have the numbers.
I wouldn't even know how to begin to calculate those numbers, but I'd say within the realm, Of the 2008 financial crisis.
I'd say it's about probably in the same realm.
I mean, the bottom line is the government will bail it out and then it'll take.
The problem is, this time, it's not like they have anybody to blame.
You know what I'm saying?
Like this time, it's like, who do you blame for this?
You can't blame Wall Street.
So they're basically going to blame this pandemic, right?
Basically, because of the pandemic, everything is going to be, everybody's going to get bailed out.
Yeah, but the difference is that you have to think about the TARP package.
When the TARP package was passed, they went and they said, We're going to give the banks the money.
We're going to take stock in exchange.
Well, keep in mind about 90 to 95% of the TARP funds have been paid back.
Who's going to pay back the money if the entire economy crashes?
They can't go to the banks.
It's not the bank's fault.
So it's just going to have to be inflation.
And inflation technically is just redistributing that loss among people.
So that means that basically a loaf of bread doesn't cost $5.
It's costing $15 and $20.
So, people are hungry.
People aren't buying real estate.
There's a crash.
People are being laid off.
They don't work.
Government has to come in.
So, I mean, it could be the 2008.
It could be worse.
I don't know.
I'm not that guy.
I'm not an actuary.
I can't crunch the numbers.
I'm not that smart.
But I think ultimately it does happen.
I think what, to me, I even did a video on my channel about this.
Like, to me, what I would do, because guys ask me all the time, what would you do with real estate?
If you want to invest in real estate, what would you do?
What would you do?
Okay, well, what I do is, because you don't know if it's going to happen in the next six months or if it's going to happen in the next year.
What I would do is, I'd buy as many single families as I could and I'd turn them into rooming houses.
I'd take the living room, dining room, and I'd turn it into bedrooms.
So I take a three bedroom, two bath or a three bedroom, one bath and turn it into a five bedroom because the one thing that's going to happen is people are going to need to are cheap housing.
You can put bunk beds in them.
Listen, when people get hungry, things that they're saying right now, oh, I'd never live in a rooming house.
Really?
Well, when you're living on the street, you won't mind bunking up with another guy in a room as opposed to having to sleep on the curb.
So the fact is, is that that's something you can buy right now.
And it doesn't matter if you're buying at the top of the market because you're only buying them for cash flow.
So it doesn't make a difference.
Doesn't matter if you're up $100,000 upside down.
If your cash flow is a couple thousand dollars a month, what do I care if I'm upside down?
I could be upside down $12 million if my cash flow at the end of the month, if my positive is 20 grand a month, what do I care if I'm in debt or upside down $12 million?
As long as I can maintain it and walk away with 10 or 20 grand a month, that's what I do.
So I would be buying everything.
Every single, every shithole, single family I could buy right now, I'd buy it.
Turn the living room dining room into a bedroom and I'd rent them out as rooming houses Obviously, there's certain areas you can't do it.
You can't do it in a pud You can't do it in a in a deed restricted community.
I mean you have to look into it a little bit It's but it doesn't matter You can buy houses that nobody wants to live in right now because guess what people that need to live someone somewhere will rent a room People are renting rooms right now for 150 bucks a month So I mean I'm sorry $150 a week They're renting rooms right now for $150 a week easily You can put you can put an ad on Craigslist right now for a room for rent At 150, and within an hour, you'll get 15 to 20 calls.
Guys desperate to rent the room.
Because the truth is look, if you're a 40 year old man and you're divorced with two kids, you have to pay your child support.
You have to, there are all these things you cannot cut.
What I can't cut food, I have to eat.
I can't cut making my car payment or making my insurance or my health insurance or paying my child support.
What can I cut?
My living expenses.
That's the only thing I can cut.
So, guess what?
I want to see my kids, I want to pay my child support.
I want to be able to have health care.
I want to be able to have my car so I can go see my kids.
I want to do all these things that I can't cut.
So I'm willing to shack up in a room.
I'm willing to shack up in a bunk.
If you said, hey, I got a bunk bed you can rent in a room with three other guys, it's going to cost you $100 a week.
You'd be shocked how many guys will say, I'll take it and be thankful.
They'll be thankful to pay $100 a week because they don't have a choice.
What's that going to be like in a year and a half from now?
People will be desperate to get into those rooms.
So that's the only thing that's a for sure thing right now.
But there's no way you cannot continually pump money into an economy and expect that you're not going to have inflation and a crash.
And there's all these economists out there that'll say it's coming.
And then there are other economists that are saying, oh, no, it'll be fine.
It'll be fine.
Well, what the hell do you guys know anyway?
Everybody said everything was peaches and cream in 2007.
In 2008, it was like, oh, my God, this is horrible.
Why didn't we see this coming?
People never want to see what's right in front of them.
They don't want to see what's bad.
They always look on the bright side of it.
And hey, Matt, one more question.
What about deflation?
Do you think we're experiencing right now a deflation, and the reason they're pumping money into it is to prevent the deflation?
There's too much stuff out there, so they need the purchasing power.
Deflation or inflation?
No, no, no, deflation.
I don't know anything about it, I don't see any deflation.
That's happening right this minute.
What are you basing that on?
I don't know.
What is deflation?
No.
It's when things are basically deflation is when you don't have the purchasing power.
You have too much stuff stored in warehouses and people don't have money to buy it.
So that way, people go out of business because they don't sell their product.
So that's basically deflation, right?
You know, you have the product, but nobody has the money to buy it.
So then everybody's going out of business, no matter how cheap they try to sell it.
Nobody's going to have the power to buy it because there's no money into the economy.
Do you feel like that's what's happening right now?
I don't know.
That's what I'm asking you.
Do you think maybe that's the scenario of the reason they're pumping so much money into it or whatever?
Or I don't know.
I have no idea.
I mean, I think they're pumping money into the economy just because they're trying to keep everybody going right now and everybody's bills being paid and people, you know, eating.
I mean, I think that's what they're my question is, where does all these trillions come from?
I mean, obviously, it's just, you know, the money is not I heard, you know what I heard the other day?
I heard more money has been printed in the last four years than in the entire history of the United States.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But isn't that the causes the houses are going up because the money are devaluating?
So you got to pay more money for the same thing.
You think the house is going up in value, but what's happening is the value of the dollar is going down.
So you got to put up with more dollars to buy the same thing.
You think, oh my God, my house is half a million.
I bought it with 300,000, but the inflation is so bad that you actually have to put up more money to buy the same thing.
Isn't that the same concept over here?
Well, I think that there's a lack of inventory on the market right now as far as houses are concerned because the banks are obviously still lending money.
And people are putting money into houses right now because they don't know what the future holds.
But here's the nice thing about buying a house.
If you buy a house for $200,000, even if you're paying at top market, okay, even if you're paying $40,000 more than the house was worth a year ago, the fact is, is you're buying a house with a fixed mortgage payment.
So your payment's $1,500 a month.
So, whether the, whether, if there's inflation, and let's say, let's say, even if it doesn't matter if there's a crash, and it doesn't matter.
Or, and it doesn't matter if the prices keep going up, you've got a fixed rate.
So you have, you have a fixed payment from here on out.
So people dump money into homes right now because they just don't know what their dot, what the dollar is going to be worth in the future.
But at least they'll have a home over their head with a fixed payment.
So if the prices go up, they're good, if they go down, they're still good.
Because if you were to take a hundred thousand dollars, hundred thousand dollars might not be worth a hundred thousand dollars In two years from now or a year from now.
But your house payment will remain the same.
I don't know if that makes sense.
I probably didn't explain that very well.
But they're getting into a house and they're borrowing the money from the bank at almost nothing 2%, 3% interest rates.
I mean, they're borrowing.
Yeah, but let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
One second.
Let me interrupt you one second.
You see, that's the trick.
That's how I think the trick is.
You see, the value of the house is going up, the interest is going down.
Everybody's like, oh my God, I'm making a good deal.
The interest is low, but the house is high.
But isn't the same formula if I'm buying a house at $300,000 with 5% interest, or I'm buying a house at half a million dollar house with 2% interest?
Isn't the same thing?
But people think, oh my God, I'm saving a lot of money, but I'm paying over the value of the house.
But I got a small interest rate.
Isn't it the same?
I mean, it's similar.
I think that your payment is fixed.
And so if prices keep going up, at least you're locked in at a.
At the same payment, and your money is invested in real estate.
So your money should be secure.
I mean, I'm not sure exactly.
I don't know if I'm answering the question right.
I'm not sure if I'm even capable of answering the question.
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After all, Matt's just a con man.
Yeah.
No, no, I appreciate it, man.
Listen, it's an honor to talk to you guys right now with Max Reese, and it's a real honor, you know.
Hey, man.
And that's the reason.
Yeah.
Do you want to buy any artwork from Matt?
No, he's trying to buy artwork from me.
Listen, I'm on the phone right now, so I cannot watch you guys on the stream.
So I'm going to have to probably hang up and I'll make it.
Don't buy it.
I promise I'll make a super chat donation over there for Matt.
Okay.
All right.
You got a deal.
All right, man.
Thanks.
It's an honor.
Thank you, guys.
Thanks for calling and thanks for watching, man.
We appreciate you.
Ain't no problem, man.
Matt, thank you so much.
You're the best.
All right.
I'm on the Jason.
All right.
I'm on it.
All right.
Have a good one.
See you.
See you.
You didn't like the Jason thing?
I thought it reminded me of Nicki Minaj, like sitting there with their ass hanging out, but it was Jason, so it gave me a weird vibe.
Bro, it's.
Wasn't it weird?
I just never thought of it.
No, bro.
It's going to be super cool.
It's going to be real dark, dark, dark.
Like the whole thing's going to be.
But why is everybody you draw squatting?
I'm just trying to get the whole.
I'm trying to utilize the space as best as possible.
Trying to get as much of the character in there.
Okay.
Plus, what I want to put in there is I want to put something about Jason being, you know, all about.
Austin, call up the next guy.
All about slam.
Let me see what you got.
Who wants to buy this picture of Amadeo?
I think Max is a girl.
Hey, everybody's saying call Boziak.
We should call him after this.
Hello?
Hey, what's up, man?
Thanks for giving us your number.
Oh, cool.
Is this Concrete?
This is Concrete, yeah.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Hey, what's up, guys?
I guess my stream is a bit delayed because I'm not hearing my stream.
Oh, yeah.
There's about a 30 second delay.
Okay.
Turn your volume down on your YouTube.
Yeah, yeah, give me a sec.
Yeah, I dig that bad.
Yeah, what's up, man?
That's weird.
I'm going to put Jason V. All about.
All right, there you go.
All right, we got you.
So, what's up?
How are you guys doing?
Good, man.
Where are you located right now?
I'm actually in Canada, in Montreal.
In Montreal?
Wow.
Yeah, man.
I'm just, you know, living the life up here, quarantined like everybody else.
Nobody locks their doors.
They're all drinking syrup.
Are you interested in any of Matt's artwork?
We're trying to peddle some of Matt's art, pay his bills.
Yeah, I mean, I sent him an email a little earlier.
I'd be willing to get like a custom piece done.
I was wondering how much that would cost.
Matt, I'll do it for you right now for $50.
He's simply a custom piece.
He's saying like a scribble.
Matt just drew a portrait of Frank Amadeo on a piece of.
I think, honestly, I think these are more genuine because he does them live.
They're live on the podcast.
Yeah.
And he's signed up.
I don't know.
I personally.
I like it, Matt.
I think that's cool.
I fuck with that painting.
Matt's like old school.
You know what?
Matt, if you do something that's similar to that Maryland Monroe poster that you did, but in a quick time, I'll give you 50 bucks for it for sure.
Right now?
Oh, my.
Of what?
What do you want?
It's Maryland.
He's saying Maryland.
You want Maryland?
Send the 50s.
I got a bunch of Maryland.
Matt will do it right now, live on the podcast, and we'll sign it for you.
All you got to do is just PayPal and 50.
Not Maryland.
You know what?
Make it a self portrait, Matt.
Self portrait.
Fuck yeah.
With the perfect hairline.
Yeah.
Hey, they're saying paint you in like the most wanted.
Black and white.
I'm down for that.
Black and white self portrait like Marilyn for 50.
Ridiculous.
All right, he's doing it, bro.
He's literally walking over to his stack of canvases right now, and he's going to do it.
This is good.
This is good.
This is great.
I had $200,000 in my bank account one time.
Hey, dude, I had $600,000 in cash one time.
In cash.
Now you're sitting in this dump with us.
So Matt's starting the painting right now, brother.
Danny's mother's basement, and I'm fucking hoping to get somebody to send me $50.
This is so sad.
So, do you have any words of wisdom for Matt?
Do you have any advice for his love life?
Look.
For his love life?
Yeah, we need help.
Yeah, Matt's having some issues right now.
He just had a big breakup and he's trying to find a new girlfriend.
And he's having some issues because he's getting kicked off all the dating apps because he's a con man.
I'm a felon.
He's a felon.
Well, you know what?
I sympathize with Matt, man.
I'm not a huge fan of the dating app.
No.
I don't.
I'm 30.
Okay.
Yeah, I've never used one of the dating apps either.
I find, in most cases, Is they just end up in really shallow connections unless you get lucky, right?
But if you want like a deep, long lasting relationship, I feel like the dating app is not really the place to be at.
Matt, think, Matt, listen to this.
I've been with my wife for 11 years.
We met at a bar at the bar with him.
Yeah, she says she was just in the wrong place.
But you didn't meet with an app, did you?
No, we just met at the bar.
She walked up to me.
Two thirds of marriages are from dating apps.
Really?
Yeah.
Maybe in like 2020, like the last five years.
Yeah, recently.
Yeah.
I mean, I know from 19th.
Yeah, I mean, I watched some of your recent videos, Matt.
I think you had just released one.
Is it today?
I think I watched one.
Right before you got here.
Yeah, people were hounding me.
Yeah, yeah, I watched that one.
Matt's suppressed, man.
I don't know, man.
Just keep pushing.
You know what I mean?
Like, I watched a lot of your videos, and I like the fact that.
You're thinking of your time out of jail early as time that you could just use to do what you want, right?
And just try to pursue your career in painting.
And I think, you know, I'm only 30, but I think that life is short and you got to do what you want to do.
So I honestly, I admire that.
Like instead of just going to a nine to five and just going right back into the system, you're trying to do your own thing and build your own business and do what you actually love.
I mean, that's honestly, that's amazing.
I, I, that's, it only took me, I thought about that for about five years in prison, and that's what I came up with.
Matt really took the bull by the horns.
I mean, when we did that first podcast with him, he took that opportunity and ran with it.
He's doing commercials now.
He's been flown across to different countries.
He's doing Netflix documentaries.
I mean, it's incredible.
I'm impressed with Matt Cox.
I owe it all to Danny.
That's what Danny really is getting at.
He wants me.
He's told me.
I'm just really impressed.
Listen, stop.
He's being humbled.
Many times I've been begging him to pay for a meal, and he's like, oh.
Fine.
And then he's like, You know, you owe me like all this, like everything that's gone right in your life is all just going to be right.
It's not because you put any effort into it at all.
It's all me.
You know that.
I'm like, Yes, Danny, I thank you so much for the game.
Hey, by the way, I spent 20 bucks earlier with a super chat, and that was.
Oh, hell yeah, bro.
See, and that was for Matt.
Do you hear him say that was for Matt?
All right, I'll buy you dinner, Matt.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate you.
You know, I understand this show is all about the guests, and people love the guests.
We got lights to keep on here too, man, to keep these people like Matt coming in here for you guys to.
You know, love.
Yeah, for sure, man.
You guys got a great thing going.
Every dollar helps.
Yeah, it's my pleasure, man.
I love supporting channels that have content that's more out there than what everybody else does.
I like that you guys are out there.
But there aren't a lot of them, so sometimes I watch Concrete, too.
No, yeah.
Nah, but you guys have no filter.
You know what I mean?
It's almost just like a couple of guys hanging out and just doing whatever, and it's actually pretty cool.
Thanks, man.
I appreciate that.
How long have you been watching our stuff?
Not super long, but I've watched everything that you've done with Matt.
Oh, a few other things, uh, like when you had that Scientologist guy, that was a really dope interview.
Oh, yeah, which one?
Um, I forget the guy's name.
We've had a few Scientologist guys, that's why I ask, but anyways, yeah, the Scientologist stuff, Rinder, yeah, yeah, Mike Rinder, yeah, that one was amazing.
Yeah, he was interesting, dude.
Man, the guy's story is crazy.
You really get to see like how insane Scientology is, uh, from the inside.
Matt's dating a Scientologist right now, that's a lie.
That's a lie.
Yeah, I was hearing that before.
And she's a 10.
And she's a 10.
I mean, look, if it works, it works.
But I just, I don't know, man.
The stuff that they do in there just seems like it's straight up brainwashing.
It is.
It's really fucked up.
It's a prison of belief, is what it is.
Yeah, I mean, especially when your leader is just going around, like, you know, yelling at people and you hear stories about him just like beating the shit out of people who just do things that he doesn't like, you know, or get on his wrong side.
Like, that's.
That's kind of messed up, right?
It's kind of the opposite of what a religious leader is really supposed to do.
Yeah.
No, it's wild, man.
It's wild.
What's his name?
David Miscavige.
He beat the shit out of Mike Render a few times, and Mike Render was his number one executive in the Church of Scientology.
And he kept him in this building with a bunch of other guys and would punch him and kick him on the floor.
He would push him on the ground and kick the shit out of him.
Yeah, it's wild.
The guy basically has.
Slaves.
It's not followers.
It's slaves, man.
It's crazy.
It is crazy, man.
Well, cool.
Matt's working on this picture right now.
It's looking really good.
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He's just in the beginning phases of it.
But yeah, we appreciate you commissioning Matt for this piece of artwork.
And anything else you want to ask Matt personally?
You there?
Yeah, yeah.
Sorry.
The line just.
Cut.
Oh, no, no, no.
No, Matt's working on your piece right now.
Yeah, I got a quick question for you, Matt.
I mean, you know, you've been through a lot and, you know, you've gone to jail for a long time too.
Like, you've got a lot of time to kind of think shit through.
I'm just wondering, like, what advice would you have for someone my age who's much younger?
You know, just looking back at your life, like, what would you have done?
Obviously, apart from the mortgage fraud and going to jail for 12 years, like, What would you do differently to kind of have a better life, like either mentally or just in terms of your job or, you know, your lifestyle?
Don't look at me like I'm going to say something profound.
No, I'm waiting for it.
Come on, man.
Because, I mean, honestly, and this is like horrible because, like, all of my advice when people ask me this, and people ask me this all the time, believe it or not, for some reason they think I'm inspiring, which is something I've never gone for.
Let me just give you a little bit of words of wisdom.
Matt's a false prophet, first of all.
Yeah.
So basically, all my only advice is the same advice any father gives anybody.
It's like the same shit your dad says.
It's like, you know, I mean, you work hard, be patient, don't try and keep up with the Jones.
You know, I mean, it doesn't, the thing is, you know how many times, you know how many times I, and I find myself doing this, Danny's going to mock me, but only because he knows deep down it's true.
But I mean, actually, Danny actually has a pretty good, like, Danny could drive, he could drive a super nice, flashy car.
He doesn't.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I noticed that Danny puts his money where it's, Where it's smart and not where it's flashy to let everybody know, hey, look, I'm a big shot.
And I find myself doing the same thing constantly where it's like, I want to get a new nice car that I pull up in a really nice car.
And I think, what are you doing, bro?
You're going to put money into a car that's going to depreciate?
Like, I'm trying to reinvest into things that will make me money.
I'm trying to not do things because it will impress other people.
And that's the problem is that I think most people are trying to impress people that basically don't like them anyway.
And they're not patient.
They want things right away.
They don't want to work for it.
They don't want to save.
And just in my opinion, that's like a huge downfall I have to get the bigger house.
I have to have the better car.
I have to have.
Why?
What does it matter?
I mean, why do you?
Why not get something that you can afford?
Save your money.
Be smart.
Be humble.
Be appreciative.
Life is so fucking good out here, and people have no clue how good they have it.
You could be a Jew in 1938 Germany.
You could be an African American in the 18th century in New Orleans.
You know, you could be, I mean, there are so many horrible, horrible situations you could have been born into.
And the truth is, life is amazing here and people just don't appreciate it.
And I mean, that to me, but to me, that's like, that's not words of wisdom.
That's just the same thing that your dad would tell you.
So I don't think, I don't think that that's profound.
I think that that's just something, something that I didn't believe.
It's like, you know what it reminds me of?
It's like money can't buy happiness, you know, but everybody wants to find out for themselves.
So, you know, it's like, but I've had money and I was never happy.
I was never really happy.
I didn't even realize how miserable I was outside free with tons of money until I had nothing and I was laying in a bed in prison where I realized how unhappy I was.
I was super happy in prison writing.
Happier in prison writing than I am right now because I'm now having to struggle to make bills, to do this, and I really don't have the time.
To write like I want to write.
So it doesn't make sense, but the truth is, if you gave me a million dollars, the only thing that million dollars would do was it'd give me time to start writing, which is something I like to do.
That's all the million dollars would do.
It wouldn't change me, it wouldn't make me happy.
It just gave me a little bit more freedom.
That's all it would do.
That was moving.
I'm touched.
So I told you you'd mock me.
Some people just can't help themselves.
Yeah, honestly, that's amazing advice.
So basically just.
You know, do what you want to do and don't really care what other people think, essentially.
Yeah, I mean, think about it like this, too.
I mean, don't get sucked up into all the fake bullshit on YouTube and all the ads.
You want to make more money on Amazon?
I make a hundred grand a day on Amazon.
Follow me at grantcardone.com and join my pyramid scheme.
I mean, all that shit's so fucking whack, bro.
Yeah, man, there's way too much of that shit.
It's crazy.
Like, everybody wants to get rich quick and not do anything, everybody wants to be a guru.
Everyone thinks they have the answers and they want to sell you a course.
Yeah.
Just do what you want.
No, I mean, do what makes you happy.
I mean, do what makes you happy and don't focus so much on making money because ultimately making money is not going to make you happy.
Do what you want.
Do what makes you happy and the money will come.
I mean, in the end, if you're good at something, if you're the best at something, you're going to make money at it.
But don't take a job because it pays a bunch of money.
Don't do something just for the money.
I would find something that you love to do and do that and stop worrying about keeping up.
Most people take jobs because they want money to buy shit to impress people that fucking hate them.
They don't like you anyway.
Everybody that I made, I stole all this money and bought a bunch of stuff to impress a bunch of people.
And when I went to jail, nobody was there.
You know who was there?
My mother.
It is nice, though, living in a nice house.
Like when you have a nice house with a pool and like big space and a big yard.
I mean, it's better than living in a 500 square foot apartment.
I will tell you that.
But don't put the cart in front of the horse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't put the cart before the horse.
Don't do that.
Take your time.
You got time.
Oh, how old are you?
I'm 30.
Oh, bro.
You can make three or four bad decisions and still come out on top.
Yeah.
Well, you can take five years and still be all right.
It's funny because your advice really kind of hits me pretty hard because right now I have a job that I do like.
But, you know, it's a regular job.
You know, it's like a nine to five.
And, I mean, it does pay really well, but.
I'm at a point where, like, I get really bad tendonitis, right?
And, like, really bad when I work.
And I'm at the point where I'm trying to decide whether I should quit my job and just focus on my health and just do something else that I like.
What's the job, if you don't mind me asking?
I'm a financial planner.
Tendonitis?
Yeah, he's typing all the time.
Yeah.
Oh, your hands?
Yeah, I've had really bad tendonitis over the years, and it's kind of gone up, you know, in my neck and in my back.
Anyways, it affects my quality of life a lot just to be at a computer all day working.
So I'm at a point now where I'm trying to decide do I keep this job for the money or do I just do something else and try to do something where I can actually feel good physically?
Yeah, the advice kind of hits me pretty hard.
Thanks for that, Matt.
I think it applies.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can't.
How's that painting coming?
It's coming good.
Give him a sneak peek of what it looks like.
Hell yeah.
It's horrible.
It's horrible.
Quit your job.
Put all your money in GameStop.
It looks like the 12 year old version of Matt Cox.
Oh, give me a second.
I can't see it yet on screen, right?
It takes about 30 seconds.
He's only got the outline done.
Wait until he gets the shading done.
It'll look way better.
You want it black and white, right?
Yeah, black and white.
Okay.
Hell yeah.
Cool, man.
Well, hey, we're going to call the next person.
Thanks for calling.
We got your send Matt the PayPal so he has all your info and he'll ship this to you with your address and everything.
And thanks again for calling, bro.
I appreciate it.
Thanks for watching all the Matt Cox content.
Yeah, so where am I sending the money?
Contact.matthew.cox at gmail.
I'll post it in the chat again.
He'll post it in the chat again.
It's contact.matthew.cox at gmail.com.
That's PayPal.
Okay, sounds good.
Yes, have a good night.
That's his PayPal.
All right, brother.
Have a good night, man.
Ciao.
Call Boziak.
Call Boziak.
What's his number?
It's in Danny's phone.
I'm sure you got it.
Uh, his new number's not in my phone, actually.
Matt, let me see your phone.
Real quick.
I'm looking for it.
I'm getting it for you.
I got it.
There you go.
Don't say it.
Let me just read it.
Don't show the camera.
Matt's sausage fingers can't help but press every fucking phone.
Not sure which one.
Which one is it?
I'm not sure.
What's the six?
I'm going to give some shout outs.
Somebody, Umech Studios sent 20 bucks.
Somebody sent 111 bucks.
Said, ask Cox to look up Quadriga.
How much?
111 bucks.
Fuck.
Quadriga.
What's Quadriga?
I don't know.
We'll look up Quadriga for $111.
It's a chariot drawn by four horses abreast.
That's a lot of money.
Does he want Matt to draw that for him?
I don't know.
Fucking, you better draw that for him for that much money.
I'm a mate.
The guy who.
Oh.
Yo, what's up, bro?
What the fuck is going on?
What up?
Not much.
They wanted us to call you live on the podcast because Matt's here whoring out some artwork for the people in the chat.
This is Boziak?
Yeah, I've been watching.
I've been watching.
You're watching it?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Do you have any words of wisdom for us on the podcast today, John Boziak?
Matt, you motherfucker.
What happened?
I heard you talking shit on me.
Oh, he was talking hella shit on your name.
What did I say?
I know he was.
Because I heard him.
You guys put him on and I caught the beginning of the conversation.
He was putting some manual.
I was saying that people were like, you forget what you look like.
When we went in that restaurant the other day, everybody's looking and people are nudging each other and pointing at you and shit.
And I'm like, you don't realize he's completely tatted up.
His head's tatted up.
He walks up.
He's like, yeah, I'd like the number four.
And the woman in the couch, she looks like she's like ready to hit the fucking button.
You guys didn't walk into the bank together, did you?
Heck no.
Okay, good.
No, they would have called the police.
Are you back in Arizona?
I'm back in Phoenix, yeah.
Ooh.
Yeah.
How'd you enjoy your trip to Florida, man?
We enjoyed you coming in here on the show, on the podcast.
Yeah, it was dope, man.
I had a good time.
I always have a good time when I come out.
Your girl wasn't too mad at us, was she, for being in the couch?
Yeah.
No.
No, she wasn't tripping, dude.
That's funny.
I wish I could have got to hang out and do some more painting.
Yeah, that would have been cool.
Did Matt walk you through the basics of fine arts?
He gave me the finer points, yeah.
He gave me the finer points.
He knows how to paint anyway.
He knew what he was doing.
Cool, bro.
He was just fucking around.
Well, the John Boziak podcast is dropping this Sunday.
That we were.
Was that what we were doing Sunday?
Yeah, it's dropping this Sunday at 11 a.m. for people who are looking forward to it.
Tell him I ordered my boxes, too.
I got my boxes.
I ordered the boxes, by the way.
Remember the boxes we were trying to order?
Yeah.
I ordered them.
So, anyway.
Was it from the company I had contacted?
No, I never heard from them.
It was a company in Orlando.
John, do you want to purchase a piece of artwork for Matt Cox to help pay his bills?
You know, I have my own art, my own paintings I'm trying to get kind of off to all of my subscribers as well.
So, the answer is no.
If anybody wants to go ahead and head on over to my YouTube channel.
Oh, man.
Everyone go, yeah, if you want artwork from John Boziak and you're not really into Matt Cox, John, what's your PayPal?
Oh, yeah, it's just Jay Boziak or my Cash App.
You can hit me on my Cash App, I Rate I R H T. Everything's on my YouTube channel.
Bitcoin Math Calculation00:05:47
Just look at it.
Description of my videos.
I list all of my social medias and I list my Cash App.
Yeah, check him out.
John is the most prolific credit card scammer in the history of cybercrimes.
So if you're into that kind of stuff, go send him some money on PayPal and he'll draw you a personal piece of artwork.
Yeah, check out my art.
It's all up on my YouTube channel if you guys want to check it out.
And just watch my videos.
And if you like my shit, you know what to do.
And also, I got a little bit of financial advice for your subscribers.
All right, let's hear it.
Get out of crypto.
Get out?
What?
What do you mean?
It's almost hitting 60K.
Crypto is going to fucking tank and people are going to lose everything.
It's going to be like 1929, but it's going to be.
Why?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Why are you saying this?
It's a bubble, man.
Dandy doesn't want to hear it.
He doesn't want to hear it.
It's a bubble.
The bubble is going to pop.
The price of Bitcoin is artificially inflated.
By who?
Elon?
Well, I mean, Elon likes to watch.
Elon just likes to play with markets and watch shit go up and down every time he makes a fucking tweet or he makes a move.
But what people don't realize is, you know, Bitcoin is tied to the American dollar.
The price of Bitcoin is based in U.S. dollars, is it not?
Am I just misunderstanding this whole thing?
I mean, yeah.
I mean, obviously, there's a dollar amount attached to it, but.
What are you saying?
How is it attached to U.S. dollars?
Explain that.
When the U.S. dollar tanks, which it's going to, I mean, just ask Peter Schiff.
Watch anything that Peter Schiff has to say.
I mean, when the dollar tanks and when there's hyperinflation going on in the country, Bitcoin is going to be fucking worthless.
Hmm.
Time to sell.
Absolutely worthless.
What do you think about GameStop, GameStop, GME?
We're up right now, baby.
Oh, man.
I know, I know.
It's a yo yo.
It's a yo yo.
GameStop, it's fun to watch.
It's fun to watch it.
So, should we buy or sell GameStop right now?
Buy the dip.
You know what?
Buy GameStop.
You know, GameStop to the moon right now.
To the moon.
GameStop to the moon.
Hey, I'm on the GameStop train, man.
Are you really?
How much money have you spent on GameStop?
I'm about $1,100 in at this point.
$1,100, yeah.
Yeah.
Really?
You think it's going to keep going up?
Also, you know, it's going to keep going up.
And, you know, real estate, real estate market's getting ready to take a shit, just as Matt was talking about earlier.
And, you know, I think the only real tangible thing right now to be in is buy gold, buy silver, buy gold.
No, I think buy real estate too, though.
I mean, if you're looking just to buy land, I mean, I would invest into, you know, go buy 10,000 acres or something.
But I think the real estate market is the one thing the government can't print more of.
True.
I mean, I would wait a year.
Matt's scoffing at me right now.
He's a real estate agent.
I would wait a year before I jump in the real estate market because I think the next 12 to 13 months are going to be extremely volatile.
Yeah.
You have to look at interest rates.
I mean, we're at zero right now.
They're going up.
Interest rates are going up.
They just went up yesterday.
What's what, 2%?
I don't know.
This went up a little bit yesterday.
I don't know what the exact number is.
But they went up.
I heard they went up.
You know, I mean, listen, we're borrowing all this money from the Fed.
The Fed just keeps cutting checks to the government, and then we just keep living off the backs of our children and our children's children.
I mean, what's the national debt right now?
I mean, how many fucking trillions of dollars is it in?
So many trillions.
I'm telling you, listen, there's so many bubbles right now.
The safest place, if you're going to invest in anything, in my opinion, it's going to be gold.
It's going to be silver and gold.
I think crypto is going to ruin a lot of people.
But what do I know?
What about Litecoin?
What about Litecoin?
I don't know, man.
I think I'm just not a firm believer in crypto.
I just don't.
Like, I understand the technology behind it, and I understand the hype around it, but I think it's going to be, I don't know.
It's not tangible.
Yeah.
Like, you can't hold it.
You know what I mean?
Like, and I can't take Bitcoin to Publix and buy groceries.
I can't take Bitcoin to the mobile and put gas in my car.
You can buy a Tesla with Bitcoin.
It has to be exchanged for dollars.
And we know that, you know, what, you get 2% inflation a year, the Fed say?
I think it's more like 5% or 6% a year.
Bro, do you know how much Bitcoin the federal government confiscated from Ross Ulbricht?
$69,000.
$500 million.
It was $69,000.
What is the math?
Can you do the math for me real quick?
$69,000.
Bitcoin, what is Bitcoin at right now?
Like $57,000 or something?
So, like $57,000 times $69,000.
It's something like 3 billion.
Yeah, it's like 3.9 billion.
It's insane.
Virgin Islands Travel00:13:43
All right.
Well, thanks for calling in, bro.
Go ahead.
Thanks for your words of wisdom.
We're going to call some more people.
Subscribe to my YouTube channel, Bogey at Conundrum.
Follow me on Instagram at SlimbyNature.
I appreciate y'all.
Thanks for fucking with me.
Hell yeah, bro.
Thank you.
All right.
Later.
Matt, how's that looking?
It's coming along.
Wow.
That's pretty damn good.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, yeah, we're ready.
All right, we got a couple more calls and then we're going to wrap this thing up.
We've been on here for like almost three hours.
Three hours?
You've got to call that one person, Max, from the UK.
Call Max.
They sent it to Danny's email.
That's the guy just called.
No, it wasn't.
Hello?
Hello.
Hey, what's up?
Hey, hey, baby.
What's going on?
Hi.
I'm doing great.
How are you all doing?
How are you doing, especially in the pandemic?
We're doing wonderful.
There is no pandemic in Florida.
We're in Florida.
We're in Florida.
We're hardy stock.
That's the way we look at it.
Yeah, happy to hear that.
Who are you?
What's your name and where are you from?
So, I'm Deja and I'm from the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Have any of you ever been there?
I actually have been to the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Your name's Deja?
Yeah, Deja, just like Deja Vu.
Wow, interesting.
That's a good strip club here.
Yeah.
So for the person who has been in the Virgin Islands, how was that like?
Did you enjoy the beaches?
Yeah, I love the Virgin Islands.
I was actually there.
I was actually in the Virgin Islands for a bill fishing tournament.
It was for a marlin fishing tournament.
And I stayed on some guy's boat, and we were in one of the marinas there in St. Thomas, I believe it was.
Yeah, St. Thomas.
Yeah, we were in St. Thomas.
So we did a little bit of diving, we did a little bit of fishing, and a lot of drinking.
And it's kind of my memory is kind of blurry, honestly.
It sounds like you did a lot of drinking.
Yeah, we did quite a bit of drinking.
Oh, that's great.
So, what makes you call in to talk to Matt Cox today?
So, I called in because I actually got a call and I just wanted to know if you had any advice on how to make a little extra cash right now.
We could think of a lot of ways.
Deja, hey, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Deja, Would you be willing to come to Florida and go on a date with Matt Cox?
Yeah, Matt, tell me more.
That was great.
I can already tell the answer.
I will pay for your plane ticket.
Cool.
Wow.
So I'm willing to come to Florida and spend time with you all.
What type of date?
Because I am not single.
I'm currently taken.
Oh, she's taken.
That's not going to work.
Too well.
Yeah.
Matt's looking for a single woman.
Then that wouldn't be me, but I'm sure he's going to find a really great person.
First, let me ask you this.
Did you hear any of Matt's talking about his love life and his recent breakup and all the online dating apps he's been striking out on?
I haven't, but if you could give me a quick rundown, that'd be great.
The quick rundown is Matt's girlfriend of almost two years just broke up with him.
A little over a year.
A little over a year.
She just broke up with him.
She said basically she loves him.
She loves spending time with him or whatever, but she's afraid of committing to him long term because Matt wants a long term relationship.
He wants to settle down, maybe have kids, blah, blah, blah, blah.
This girl's never said that.
Matt's kids?
Stop.
Stop ad living.
Matt's 51.
She's 34, and she broke up with him, but she still wants to talk to him and text him and hang out with him and be friends, but she doesn't want to like.
Tie the knot with him.
She just wants to keep doing what she's doing while she's in school, blah, blah, blah, blah.
She still wants to hang out with him, but she doesn't want to be with him and commit to a long term thing with him.
She wants no commitment.
Exactly.
All the fun, but no commitment.
Exactly.
So Matt's on all the dating apps, and he can't find a girl to take him seriously.
Not take him seriously, but he can't find a girl to.
You're making it so desperate.
I also haven't looked extremely hard.
I've been kicked off several dating habits.
Apps.
Apps.
Because I'm a felon and I haven't really made an attempt, be that much of an attempt, but I'm going to.
It's been a month.
I'm fragile.
He's fragile.
Stop.
Let me tell you how it really is, Deja.
Okay.
So he's been on a couple of dates, blind dates on these dating apps or whatever, and the girls are like, oh, we have great chemistry.
You know, I love talking to you or whatever, but we're just going to be friends because whatever.
Because he thinks it's because either A, it's because he's a felon, ex con, ex felon.
Or B, he thinks he's too short.
Is he too short to pick up women's shoes?
He thinks it's something like physical, like, oh, he's too short.
Or it's because he's.
I don't think it's because of the.
I don't, honestly.
I think it.
I doubt it's because of the prison sentence, because of the ex felon.
Because a lot of people are ex felons.
Just because you did a couple of years in prison for a fraud, that's not that big of a deal.
But how tall are you, Matt?
You're five.
I'm five six.
He's five six.
How tall is your boyfriend?
That's funny.
Deja?
Oh, yeah.
My boyfriend, he's 6'3.
He's a goddamn giant.
Hang up on her.
Don't hang up on her.
Do not.
Well, I'm pretty tall myself, so it kind of makes me feel a little shorter.
How tall are you?
She's 5'7.
About 5'8, yeah.
Hang up on her.
It's going to round out.
Do not hang up on Deja.
How long have you lived in the Virgin Islands for?
I'd say my entire childhood, so until I was 18, and then I left.
Where'd you go?
To PA for college.
So I wanted to pursue engineering, specifically chemical engineering, and didn't quite have the focus and the level of research that I wanted to do back home.
So I figured, you know, time to travel.
Okay.
What college in Pennsylvania?
Villanova.
Are you a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers?
I am.
I've spent some time in Pittsburgh and I have family in Pittsburgh.
So, yeah, black and yellow all the way.
Hell yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We're coming to the Virgin Islands to party with Deja.
You know, I beat Juju Smith's sister in a game of Madden.
Did you?
What?
I smoked his ass.
Prove it.
Sounds pretty insane.
It's on one of the videos on the channel.
So, anyways, all right, go ahead.
Whatever questions you have for Matt Cox, shoot.
She doesn't have any for me.
Yeah, she does.
Matt, it sounds like you're a really great guy, someone that's really fun to be around.
And, you know, this person that you're seeing, they're lost that they don't want that commitment.
Sometimes people are afraid of holding on to a good thing, as weird as that sounds.
And I know online dating can probably be really tough.
I personally met my boyfriend through online dating.
So if it's a testament that it can work, it, you know, take me, for example.
But, I would say, you know, really try to find someone that you can communicate well with, someone that you can have a lot of fun with and play with.
And once you find that person, then those conversations of whether this is something short term or long term, maybe you can have earlier on.
And really, all the best.
Deja, do you think his ex girlfriend's thinking like she's thinking like bird in the hand versus two in the bush type thing?
Can you say that again?
Is she thinking.
Is she like have the mentality like a bird in the hand is not worth two in the bush?
Like she's thinking that maybe there's one out there better she can find, so she doesn't want to tie the knot with Matt.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
I think, I think exactly that's well said.
You know, it's better to kind of have you around and have someone to chat with, but not have that commitment.
Right, right, right.
She wants.
What do you think she's really looking for?
What do you think her mindset is?
I think she wants her cake and she wants to eat it too.
And that's not really fair to Matt.
It's not.
So, setting boundaries and kind of saying, you know, this is what I define for a long term relationship.
If you want that, great.
If not, then I can't give you what your relationship is.
She wants to maintain her emotional connection and her great relationship she has with Matt at the same time she's going to college and she wants to scout as much young dick as she possibly can while she's still in college.
She likes women too.
And she used to have a girlfriend, which is crazy.
Yeah, let's not do that.
That'll just piss me off.
No, we don't want to piss Matt off.
No.
I think she really needs to understand what she wants.
And she definitely wants more.
She wants her cake and wants it too.
And maybe just separating and having some time apart.
Yeah.
Well, Deja, thank you so much.
I appreciate your insight.
I'm so glad we had a girl.
Thank you for having me.
It's so rare that we have a girl.
Do you have any questions for Matt that he can help you with?
Yeah.
So, Matt, you said that you're an ex convict, and I think that just going through that process, you'd have a lot of insight.
And what do you think is the biggest thing that you've gained or biggest change in perspective over the last couple of years?
That's a really big question.
I don't understand the question.
What's the biggest?
I think she's asking you is what was the biggest thing you learned from your time before prison, in prison, and after prison?
What was your biggest takeaway as far as perspective goes and as far as your outlook on life?
I mean, it's the same thing.
It's a dad answer.
It's money can't buy happiness.
Talking to the mic, Matt.
It's money can't buy happiness.
It's the same thing you already know.
It's money can't, there's no, I have no wisdom.
It's money can't buy happiness and find something you like to do and do that thing and stop trying to keep it.
This is the same thing that your father would tell you.
What do you do for a living, Deja?
I make candy for a living.
So I'm a chemical engineer at a candy company.
I won't say which company, but that's what I do.
So you can think of me as a Lillywonka engineer.
What kind of candy?
What do you put in that candy?
Virgin Islands finest?
I think that's a little.
Oh, yeah.
Secrets of the Virgin Islands.
We sprinkle in tropical paradise.
Wow.
And rays of sunshine.
You're a chemical engineer.
But thanks for sharing your perspective, Matt.
Wait, wait, wait.
I want to hear more about this candy stuff.
What's the name of the candy stuff?
The candy stuff.
Send some candy.
It's a pretty big candy company.
It's a global company.
Where's it based?
Where's it based?
He's based in Chicago.
He doesn't have a problem.
In Chicago.
Danny will get you fired.
I won't get you fired.
I won't say won't.
He will.
I don't know if I can quite say the name.
You can't say the name.
So they don't do marijuana candy.
No.
But marijuana is now legal in New Jersey.
So I'm expecting to see a lot of candy with meat in it.
Are you going to stay in the Virgin Islands forever?
Are you going to ever move back to the continental United States?
I'm actually still in the US, but my goal would be to eventually retire in the Virgin Islands.
Something about the culture, music, and hospitality back home will always be in my heart.
So that's where I want to be when I retire.
Yeah.
Pinnacle Bank Fraud00:15:02
Well, thank you for calling in and sharing your story.
We appreciate you, Deja.
And thank you.
Thank you for watching.
Thank you for having me.
You guys have a great podcast.
And I hope you have a great rest of your day.
You too.
You too.
Have a great night.
Bye.
Bye.
That was a she was great.
What a great caller.
Deja sounds finer than frog hair.
Yeah, Dana.
Deja sounds hot.
She's got a boyfriend.
She's tall and her boyfriend's taller than you are.
No, we're on par.
Six three.
Six three.
Okay.
Hey, somebody, David L. donated $50.
Said, I want Matt to tell me in detail about the loans he got from Pinnacle Bank.
Pinnacle Bank.
$50.
Pinnacle Bank.
Yeah.
This guy.
This guy knows something.
He said, Oh, shit.
I've never heard you talk about Pinnacle Bank.
Pinnacle Bank?
Oh, listen.
Yeah, I don't remember hearing about that.
How does this guy know about this?
So much fraud through Pinnacle Bank.
And specifically, specifically, Amy Early.
Amy Early.
Was the account executive.
Oh, shit.
Now married, going by a different name, but she is following me on Facebook.
So I see her every once in a while.
So she sees your stuff?
She sees my stuff, yeah.
You think it's her?
Oh, I know it's her.
I'm positive it's her.
But yeah, she, oh, we did a ton of fraud on Pinnacle Bank.
Oh, how much fraud?
Like, what do you think?
A million, two million, three million?
Ten million?
Fifteen million in fraud of just Pinnacle Bank.
That's what I'm talking about.
It was Pinnacle Bank Corp and it was owned by a guy named Gary Vaughn.
I remember it because it sounded very close to Bond.
Vaughn.
And I used to joke all the time Vaughn.
Gary Vaughn.
So, yeah, man, listen, they caught us on over and over again committing fraud too.
Really?
Left and right.
Gary caught us one time.
One time we got caught with like, it was like, it was a couple, several million dollars, and they'd already sold a few million dollars to Household Bank.
And then they caught us with like a million dollars in fraud and they sold it.
They knew it was fraud and they sold it to Household Bank again.
Another one.
Wow.
That was like the industry.
They called up.
He was a little threatening when he realized that I was like, look, I can't cut you a check for the money that you caught.
So I don't know if you're expecting I'm going to cut you a check for like a million dollars.
You're wrong.
That's not going to happen.
And he was like, no, but we're going to go ahead and put this in a package that we're selling.
So if it comes back on us, though, you have to agree you'll help me get rid of any loans that come back on us.
Of course.
Of course.
What am I going to say?
Yeah, no.
Oh, yeah, no.
No, you're a hit.
Call the FBI.
Fuck you.
Of course, I'm going to.
Of course, Gary, you can rely on me.
Of course, I'm trustworthy.
And Amy would always run interference.
She'd call you up and be like, listen, this is what they just found out.
This is what they know.
I don't know what you're going to say, but this is what they know.
And I'd be like, okay.
And then the phone would ring.
Like five minutes later, the phone would ring.
Boom.
I'd be like, yeah, what's it?
And I'd already have a story completely ready.
What?
Oh, absolutely.
Like, if I didn't know beforehand, you don't know what to say.
You're fucked.
Yeah, you had to drop.
They asked, did she go to prison too?
Amy?
No, no.
When Pinnacle eventually went under, I like to think by no fault of mine.
I don't know that's true, though.
I'm sure you were a part of that.
When they eventually went under, she just got a job working for Citibank.
You know, Citigroup, Citibank.
Oh, yeah.
Reputable bank.
And, yeah, she went to work for them.
There was a chick that worked there named Nash.
What was her name?
We all went to dinner a few times.
Anyway, yeah.
But in detail, my God, bro, we had canceled checks.
We had fake pay stubs, fake.
I mean, there was so much fraud that we put through.
And we knew all the underwriters.
They would come down.
They'd take us to, like, they literally, after Gary caught us with a couple million dollars in fraud, a week later, he flew down and took me and three of the brokers out to dinner.
And said what?
He actually said during that meeting, he got drunk.
And he actually said, um, Oh, I was just thinking about something I can't even say.
Say it.
No, no, I can't say it.
It's not Amy.
Anyway, because I always liked Amy.
I always kind of had a crush on Amy.
You did?
Yeah.
Maybe she's available now.
Yeah.
She's not.
She's not.
Okay.
She's married.
So Gary got drunk, and I remember Gary, we were talking about fraud, and Gary said, to be honest, he goes, I don't care how much fraud goes through that company.
He goes, as long as it doesn't come back on us, he goes, as long as it goes through our underwriting department and they don't catch it.
He goes, and it doesn't come back on us.
He goes, if it does go into foreclosure, he goes, I don't care how much fraud goes through that place.
He goes, we know fraud's going through the place.
He told me one time he caught a guy with fraud.
He caught a guy with like a $250,000 fraud.
Like literally, they'd funded the loan.
And like when they went to go sell it to their secondary investor, the secondary investor caught that it was fraud.
Like, and it was blatant.
It was like W 2s, pay stubs, like the phone number that verified the guy's employment, like literally went to the owner of the company.
I mean, so he called him up.
He's like, oh, I had him.
He was done.
I told him I was going to call the FBI, this and that.
Gary said, look, we have to pay X amount of dollars to maintain that loan until we can sell it.
Now, you're saying, now we can't sell it.
So it's stuck on our books.
And we have to pay a fee the longer it stays on there.
Here's what the fee is.
So he said he came up with some ridiculous fucking like $5,000 or $6,000 a month.
He was, this guy had paid this like $5,000 a month for like four or five months.
And really, the money was just going into Gary's just taking five grand, five grand, five grand.
And he said, I don't care if he pays that fee forever.
And he said, eventually, he said the guy was paying it till eventually the guy got, they sold the house or refinanced the house.
And he said, Oh, he's up to like $20,000, $25,000 at this point.
He was laughing about it.
I mean, he was drunk.
And we were like, I was thinking, this guy is fucked.
He's vicious.
I was like, Wow.
Whatever happened to that guy?
He's distorting.
I mean, his company went under.
Yeah.
I'm sure he turned around and opened up another company.
What was his name?
Gary Vaughn.
Somebody in the chat, find out where the fuck.
Gary Vaughn is.
Yeah, for real.
We need him on the podcast.
We need him on the fucking podcast.
I'll bet he's got some stories.
Gary Vaughn is now the CEO of Citibank.
Where the hell is Gary Vaughn?
Somebody find Gary Vaughn for us.
Please.
How's the painting going, man?
Austin, I'm looking really good.
Call one more person, we'll end this thing.
I'm thrilled.
I'm not thrilled with it.
Oh, yeah.
It's all right.
This is my.
It's all right, I guess.
That's great.
Look at it.
Who else can we call?
Can we call Amadeo?
No, he's never gonna answer the phone.
No, he wouldn't.
What if we could?
What if he did answer though?
Yeah, what if at least try?
I mean, you certainly can try.
You should try.
What's his number?
Let me get it.
I mean, I'm not supposed to be talking to him, but you could.
I'm sure.
Well, we could talk to him.
Sure, you could.
I don't have his phone number.
Oh, you don't have his phone number?
All right.
We can't call him then.
Who else could we call?
Call somebody in the chat.
Awesome.
Just pick someone.
Is anybody else?
We're about to end this podcast any minute now.
So only one person has purchased a painting.
That's upsetting.
Unreal.
Well, I haven't checked either.
Pretty sure.
The first podcast we did, the first art auction, Matt sold like at least $4,000 worth of paintings.
Keep saying that.
It wasn't that much.
Yeah, that's it.
I sold, got one paint.
Whoop, never mind.
He refunded it.
No.
Oh.
You refunded it?
You got more?
I got another painting.
It was obviously.
Somebody else sent.
Somebody else sent $300?
Wow, who?
Hugh.
Hugh sent $300.
Hugh!
What?
I don't know for what though.
The $300 is supposed to be.
You gotta give him a painting for $300.
I mean, obviously, he sent too much money, which I'm okay with.
I'm always okay with that.
Of course.
Max says she sent her number to your email like 10 times.
Is it a girl?
Yeah.
That asked for the fucking Almadeo painting.
You calling Max?
No, I don't have that number.
It's in your.
Have you checked your email?
Here, you answer this.
He's got to check his email.
She requested the Almadeo painting.
And she's in the UK.
She said it's like 4 a.m.
Hurry up.
Hello?
Hey, what's up, bro?
How are you doing?
Hello, everybody.
I'm good.
How are you guys?
Good, man.
Who's this?
This is Isaiah from Texas.
Isaiah from Texas.
Isaiah Mullins?
No, no.
Oh, okay.
How are you doing, man?
You've been watching the stream?
Yeah, I've been watching for, I think, a year now at least.
I kind of listened to Matt Cox's podcast on the way to work.
Hell yeah, man.
Do you have any advice, any words of wisdom for Matt Cox and his current situation in his love life?
I'm only 18, so I don't have any words of wisdom in that sense, but I did have a question for him.
Go ahead.
So, Matt, do you have any experience with crypto NFTs?
No.
Does Matt Cox even know what NFTs are?
I have no idea.
Non fungible tokens.
Yeah.
I think he should actually look into that with his art.
I think that could be something pretty lucrative.
Oh, I've had probably four, probably three digital.
Well, I've had like three guys ask me to do paintings with Bitcoin, like of Bitcoin type, you know.
No, no.
NFTs are completely different.
Okay.
I don't know.
NFTs are like digital baseball cards.
I have no idea what that is.
Yeah.
So you could make a painting and tokenize it and say, you could do 10, you could mint 10 of them, meaning you could.
Create 10 of them as a maximum supply and do drops on your channel or whatever, and people can transact them.
You'll even have a 10% royalty for every time someone buys and sells it after that.
Bro, I'm telling you, NFTs are the next big thing.
It's, uh, yeah, they are.
It's everyone, it's just make believe.
It is make believe.
It totally is.
Everyone's talking about it right now.
It's like all the hype.
People are making a lot of money.
NFTs, bro.
Like a video clip, like a video clip of like a sports highlight of like LeBron doing a fucking reverse.
Dunk or something?
You do understand.
I can barely use my iPhone, right?
Yeah, they can do GIFs.
I have no idea.
I don't know half the functions on Instagram.
I just figured out how to post it.
What's your name again, bro?
Isaiah.
Isaiah, would you be willing to give Matt a crash course on NFTs and explain to him how he can do this with his paintings?
Yeah, sure.
Definitely.
I've been doing all kinds of crypto stuff for like three years.
And also, I forgot his name, but whoever else came on on the phone and was saying stuff about how to get out of crypto Boziak.
Boziak, yeah.
I could tell that didn't really sit right with you either.
Do you have anything to say about it?
I don't know fucking shit about it.
All I know is.
He's got money in it.
I own some Bitcoin and I know the price is going through the roof.
I wish I would have bought more when it went down to the low 40s a couple weeks ago.
Yeah.
But a close friend of mine who's actually really big into Bitcoin and he runs a lot of meetups in Atlanta with.
He's really versed in Bitcoin.
He's telling me to buy Litecoin right now.
Yeah, it's extremely undervalued.
But just crypto in general, all the things the other dude was saying, he was basically stating things that were actually the opposite of what his conclusion was.
So, him saying all the inflation that's going on with the US dollar, that's actually good for Bitcoin.
When this next round of stimulus comes out, you will actually see an increase in the price of Bitcoin because that money that they are.
Inflating our circulation with is encouraging investors to put their money in something that isn't losing value, something like Bitcoin or gold or silver or real estate.
That same analysis he was saying actually applies to the opposite conclusion.
Wait, wait, wait.
He was basically saying Bitcoin is tied to the US dollar.
He was saying that when the economy crashes inevitably in the next year or so, he's saying that Bitcoin will also crash.
Yeah, Bitcoin, it is in a bubble, but it is not.
It is still going to grow for probably till the end of this year.
I'm saying somewhere between 200 and 400K.
That's where it will top out.
Goddamn.
200 and what?
Until then.
200K.
Somewhere between 200 and 400,000 is probably where it will top out.
Wow.
It's only at like, since Bio 60, it's like right around, it's almost 60,000 now, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Actually, even.
The next month it'll probably hit somewhere between 70k, something like that.
Wow, but yeah, Litecoin's a good investment as well.
Yeah, Litecoin's really undervalued.
Um, yeah, not necessarily the price, but the ratio between its last all time high and now it's pretty undervalued.
Okay, how much money do you have in cryptocurrency?
Um, like I said, I'm only 18, I started like a few years ago, I've probably made Somewhere between 200K and 300K.
Wow, man.
Jesus.
That's a shitload of money.
Yeah.
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I'm basically a day trader as well.
You're a day trader as well?
Yeah.
What do you think about GameStop?
Well, about what happened already?
No, what's going on?
The future.
The future.
To the moon.
I mean, I don't really.
I don't.
Like the whole thing with Dogecoin and GameStop and all the short squeeze and whatnot.
I basically stay as far away from that as possible because, I mean, what goes up that quick has to come down.
I mean, that's exactly what happened.
But in the future, I'm sure, I don't know, like, it's not really my zone.
I'm not with the hype trains.
I like to pick on things that are neglected or are really, I don't know, undervalued.
Yeah.
So I don't really know what the hell.
What should we buy right now?
Um,.
Hold on, let me give you something.
In terms of crypto?
Crypto or any kind of stocks?
What brokerage do you guys use?
I don't invest in Fidelity.
I don't invest, yeah, Fidelity, there you go.
I don't dig into it.
Fidelity, you only got like three options.
I don't pick stocks, but Shane does.
Do you guys have Coinbase or anything?
Yeah, I have a.
Coinbase, and I have another wallet, another crypto wallet.
I forget what it's called.
Okay.
Coinbase, you got a decent selection.
I'd say, well, what time frame?
Are you talking short term?
I can give you something that in the next month you'll double your money.
What's that?
There's something called OXT, which is a privacy coin.
It's a VPN service, crypto.
OXT?
You know, Edward Snowden.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, OXT.
It's on Coinbase.
Yeah, I think sometime this month, maybe in 10, 15 days, they're having an event.
And actually, CNET announced OXT as one of its top five innovations.
And, like, on par with the COVID vaccine and, like, the Apple M1 chip, all these things.
Like, it's a pretty low market cap, undervalued.
And I've got a pretty big bag in it.
What's in it?
What's it cost right now?
Sorry, what's it costing right now?
I think it's 61 cents right now.
Oh, let's go.
That's a price I like.
Look at that.
OXT.
Okay.
I'm buying some tonight.
You got to get Coinbase, though.
You don't have any crypto wallets yet.
We'll download it tonight.
You got to upload your ID.
I don't get it.
Yeah, for a long term, Litecoin's good.
Dash is good.
Ethereum, obviously, that's I think that's one of my second biggest holding Ethereum.
Okay, so you're holding on to your Bitcoin, you're not selling it.
No, I'm holding it till probably December or November, that area.
I mean, I do technical analysis, so that's not like a set date where I'm waiting.
I'm waiting for my indicators to tell me what to do.
Okay, all right, shoot me an email, bro.
I gotta go to the next caller, but shoot me an email.
I want to talk to you more about this stuff, DanielConcrete.com.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Thanks for calling, man.
Thank you guys.
Yeah, thanks, Isaiah.
Bye.
All right.
Fucking 18 years old.
Oh, you made two, three hundred grand.
Jeez.
Austin, call Max.
Dream come true.
Are you kidding me?
Ridiculous.
Max, we're calling you right now in the UK.
There's so many hours of phone calls.
It's not a girl, too.
He said he's a bloke.
He's a bloke.
All right.
I wish it was a girl.
Girls are more fun to talk to.
Deja was fine.
Deja was fun to talk to.
Send some pics.
Ha ha ha ha.
Oi, oi.
Oi, mate.
What are you doing, bloke?
Hello, is that the concrete people?
Yes, this is the concrete podcast.
How many quid are you willing to give up for a portrait from Matt Carr?
You requested the Amadeo painting.
Well, I've only got like 10 quid in my bank account.
10 quid?
Yeah.
I'm not buying any.
That's like, I already sold.
I already, somebody already sent me money.
Oh, you already sent me money.
You already bought the Amadeo?
No, somebody else sent me money.
No, no, no.
I just thought it was a good idea.
Oh.
It was a great idea.
I already got money for it.
How much did you get for it?
300 bucks.
300 bucks?
Oh, man.
Let's go.
300 bucks?
Phew.
How much quid is 300 bucks?
Well, probably about 250 pounds.
Wow.
Wow.
I don't like saying pounds.
I like saying quid.
Quid sounds like you don't give a fuck.
Well, you're not a quid.
Quid is.
250 quid!
Yeah.
What time is it over there?
It's 16 minutes past 4 in the morning.
4 in the morning?
What the hell are you on?
Max, what the fuck are you doing up at 4 a.m.?
What are you doing?
I can't sleep.
He's watching Matt Cox.
Are you on the uppers right now?
No, no, no.
No, other than the natural uplift of having bipolar disorder.
You're bipolar?
Wow.
Yeah, although I'm not mad like the Emperor.
Like the Emperor.
Like the Emperor.
Nice.
He likes the Emperor.
He called him the Emperor in the chat about it.
I love it.
Well, people in prison call him the Emperor.
Emperor, he go.
I've got a couple of business ideas for Matt that he can have to put.
All right, sure.
Max, before you give us the business ideas, we want some relationship advice for Matt Cox.
Oh, God, he doesn't want to come to me for that.
Why not?
I mean, same reason.
Because I'm terrible with that stuff.
How's your love life, Max?
Not very good.
Not very good?
No, none existent.
I'm with you.
How come so much of our audience is from the UK?
Is it because of Sean Atwood?
Is that why?
No, I don't know, Lily.
I mean, I got into watching your show through watching your interviews with Matt.
I like listening to the true crime stories.
I think they're fascinating.
The true crime's good.
Everybody loves some true crime, don't they?
Yeah.
Women love it.
Did you want to hear these business ideas?
Yeah, yeah.
Here's some of the business ideas.
Let's go.
Right.
So the first one is you start selling some really cheap wallets that have your signature embroidered on the back with a fake social security card of Gary Sullivan on the inside, and you market them as Matt Cox's prison wallet.
Yes.
Yeah.
I like this.
Max, I'm going to make those and I'll give Matt a cut of the profits.
You know, in prison, guys, in Coleman, they have a leather shop, right?
So you can buy leather and make, you can make purses and wallets.
So you could actually have inmates make the wallet.
They're actually prison wallets.
They're technically not allowed to sell wallets.
Like they give them, oh, I made this for my sister and they mail it to their sister and then they, but they'll make.
They'll make super nice wallets and they'll embroider them and everything.
Yeah, so you could have the inmates make the wallets.
That's cool as hell.
And sell them with Gary Sullivan.
Yeah, that'd be so awesome.
What's the next one, Matt?
Gary Sullivan, the other idea, right?
Just following on from the Frank Amadeo's Biggie Snores idea, is that you record Frank's ramblings and then you put them to music and release them as a spoken word album.
So his message wouldn't reach the masses easier.
I, you know, I mean, I like that, but I, you know, I actually tried to get him, I tried to get him to write a book called, what is it? Capital Genesis, which is his business or his how to take over the world idea.
Like I was like, right.
Yeah, that was his university thesis.
Right.
I asked him to write a book.
Like, let's write this down.
Let's actually make it, it could be 100 pages.
You could sell that book.
He couldn't focus long enough to actually get it done.
And he writes like, it's just over the top.
It's just over the top.
Like, he couldn't do it.
And I couldn't talk to him directly.
I was working between me and somebody else trying to get messages, and it just became a nightmare.
But I hear you.
I mean, it's a funny idea.
It's just until I actually get permission to actually talk to him.
He's not in prison anymore, is he?
No, he's out.
He's on house arrest.
He's on house arrest?
He shouldn't have been in prison in the first place.
He shouldn't have been in prison in the first place.
Well, that's debatable here, Max.
I think the difference is that in the UK, if you're mentally ill, they'll send you to a hospital.
Here, they don't give a shit.
Here, they just send you to prison.
He didn't pay $300 million in taxes or some crazy shit.
No, he didn't.
What are you talking about?
He basically stole $180 million.
You got to do what you got to do.
I wish that was a fucking A. You got to do what you got to fucking do.
Yeah.
Have you had any success in telling Frank stories for like a film or whatever?
Oh, yeah.
Man's got all sorts of stories for Frank.
How could you imagine like a Frank Hamadou, like a thriller miniseries?
Oh, listen, you know how hilarious.
You realize you could get five to ten years out of his story.
Think about it.
Think about how many times he's trying to.
He's trying to.
Yeah, he gets close, but puts together a coup and it almost happens.
Then he puts together another coup and it Almost happens.
The CIA is trying to stop him from doing that, and they're trying to get him to do this, and the NSA comes in, and the politics involved.
You could drag that fucker out forever.
It would be 10 seasons.
You didn't read the book, but bro, listen, do you understand that he actually went to a meeting in a Darth Vader mask?
Like, went to a boardroom meeting, walks in, sits.
You got to read the book, bro.
You got to get the book.
Matter of fact, It's on Audible too.
So he actually, I mean, and when I heard that story, I thought, that's insane.
That could have never.
Then I read the transcripts when he was being sentenced, and one of the boardroom members got on the stand and actually talks about how he came in, sat down, and conducted the meeting while wearing a Darth Vader hat, and nobody said anything.
That's so fucking amazing.
A Darth Vader hat.
Imagine sitting there during that.
That's the greatest thing I've ever heard.
What's going on?
Yeah.
God.
He's a god.
I'm a god.
He's an emperor.
I saw someone uploaded like his depositions or whatever onto YouTube.
I can't, what?
What did you say?
I've seen that.
Someone's uploaded like his.
I can't tell what the fuck.
He said someone has.
Like depositions.
Someone has uploaded what?
Like him being.
Someone has uploaded videos onto YouTube of Frank basically like telling his story to lawyers.
Have you seen that?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those have been out for a long time.
Those are actually depositions.
It's a mock deposition.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's like a mock deposition that's on YouTube.
It's been up for like five or 10 years.
Yeah, it's Frank.
There's lots of video of him.
Max, we're getting Frank on this podcast soon, so stay tuned.
I'm trying.
That would be great.
That would be great.
I'm in contact with him, and we're going to make it happen.
And Matt Cox is going to be present as well.
So as soon as we get his PO to sign off, it's going to happen.
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
Well, I'll let you go, lad.
Thanks, Max.
Have a great night, man.
Thanks for watching.
We love you.
Matt Cox's prison purse.
Prison wallet.
Prison wallet.
Yeah.
So we're going to, we're actually, we're designing some t shirts, some concrete t shirts.
That are Matt Cox's central focused.
The front pocket's going to have a fake ID that says Gary Sullivan.
Or a social card or something.
With Matt Cox's face.
And we got some.
It's going to be done in the next week or two.
What is happening?
We'll let everybody know soon.
We'll give Matt Cox a cut of the profits.
Don't worry.
Yeah, Matt Cox's prison wallets.
We need that.
All right.
You hang up on Max?
I think we're good, Matt.
We just did like.
Two, three hours.
Three hours.
It's 11 30.
It's almost midnight.
All right.
That's ridiculous.
Any last words?
I'm tired.
I want to go home.
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I want to.
When's that place?
I'm not getting dinner.
I'm getting you dinner.
Timeouts are food till like two in the morning.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Where are we?
What's happening?
Let's go.
All right.
Good night, everybody.
Thank you for watching the Concrete Podcast with the Wilcox live show.
We love you all.
Thank you for watching and subscribing and viewing and.
Uh, getting in the super chat.
Uh, Matt Cox, any any last words you want to tell it?
Play why I don't have wisdom.
There's no right.
All right, let's subscribe.
You gotta subscribe to my channel.
Yeah, I got an Instagram, COX POP ART right as Instagram, and i've got my channel, which is Matt Cox Inside TRUE Crime.
And uh, I have a facebook.
Uh thing, I don't think nobody's on facebook.
No, I don't really.
I actually kind of like instagram, to be honest.
Like at first I liked facebook, but now it's like instagram Where Facebook's done.
Is it over?
It's over.
It's for the old people who are outraged about politics.