The Invisible Coup, Interview with Peter Schweizer | Triggered Ep.311
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What an absolutely insane weekend.
What we've just witnessed in Minneapolis should have every single American paying very close attention right now because the mask is finally and fully off.
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Guys, now, let's get into the top headlines.
The situation in Minneapolis has completely exposed what we've been saying for years.
You have a Democrat governor, Tim Waltz, who is openly threatening federal law enforcement.
You have Mayor Jacob Fry, who's literally said, and I quote, get the F out of Minneapolis to ICE agents who are trying to enforce the law and remove dangerous criminals and fraudsters from our street.
Think about that for a second, guys.
Elected officials, they're telling federal agents to leave.
They're encouraging targeting of ICE agents while their own state was revealed to have had billions stolen in a massive fraud scandal.
These are the people claiming the moral high ground.
Now, we've had two shootings in Minneapolis this month involving federal agents.
And look, any loss of life is tragic.
But what we are seeing is a deeply organized effort by leftist agitators to assault, obstruct, and attack ICE.
And the individuals involved in these sabotage operations have direct ties to Governor Tim Waltz, including a top Waltz campaign strategist.
Maybe, maybe, based on what we've seen, maybe even his own lieutenant governor.
Things that were uncovered due to some of the great investigative work by Cam Higbee.
Look at your screen.
Here is the entire training manual for domestic terrorist patrols chasing ICE agents in Minneapolis.
Think about that.
They have a training manual.
This isn't people that showed up because they really feel wronged about something.
They're being trained.
It's like an insurrectionist movement.
And inside these signal chats include databases of license plate where they believe ICE agents are staying, plotting various schemes and ways to track them, target them, and to hurt them.
This is not by accident, folks.
This is an organized campaign.
There's nothing organic about it.
Just like there wasn't in BLM or the LA riots, there is a lot behind this.
This is an actual insurrection, and it's all designed to put law enforcement officers' lives at risk, to create situations where they can then get outcomes that they want to drive narrative, not based on facts, but based on the agitation that they've created.
Check this out.
What sticks out to me from covering these protests here for the past several days in Minneapolis is just how organized these protesters are.
We talked about the ICE watch group.
These people have spotter Sean all over the city.
So they see who pulls in and out of the federal building, whether they're ICE agents or not.
They want to track you down.
They want to put you in a database and then it's shared according to DHS sources through signal chat.
So that's what sticks out to me about this.
They're angry, they're motivated, and they have a message for these ICE agents that they don't want them in the city of Minneapolis.
And I think it's important to point out, too, as you have, when you're talking about who these neighbors are.
I asked those protesters: you're here to protect your neighbors.
We hear it from the governor.
We hear it from the mayor of Minneapolis.
Who are the neighbors?
I asked a few of the protesters.
You here to protect the guy who DHS says was in the country illegally that is wanted for sodomy, for murder.
And they say, No, that is not true.
They're taking American citizens into custody.
So, no matter what you say, no matter what the facts are from DHS or from whatever side, you know, they don't want to hear it.
So, that's what we've been dealing with on the ground.
Things do escalate, and then one minute it's okay, you blink, and it's a different story.
The smell of tear gas.
I'm going here in Minneapolis, Sean.
All right, Alexis, thank you for that report.
And tonight, in just a moment, by this is not a protest, this is an organized operation to illegally disrupt and sabotage ICE by an extremist group that surveils and trains agitators to illegally disrupt immigration enforcement operations and even ransack a local hotel where the rioters believed the ICE agents were housed.
Time and time again, we have agitators showing up to impede ICE operations and getting into confrontations with ICE agents and then resisting arrest, even biting off an agent's fingers.
And with Waltz and local authorities seemingly on the side of the rioters, federal law enforcement is having to defend themselves from these violent mobs by themselves.
And it's only getting more dangerous.
Is everyone pressed?
We're all members of the press, loyal press here.
Okay, this officer appears to be losing this mouth.
Oh my gosh.
Are you okay?
I'm fine.
Are you okay?
I'm fine.
Where's the local to-do?
That's one question for the press.
Okay, this officer.
Where's the local to-do?
What's your message to the local PD, sir?
No.
Okay.
Well, the mayor, very chaotic.
Sir, while you're getting messages, what was your message to the protesters that want you out be?
As long as you're getting out of the way, please care for me out.
Dirk out!
Please give me some room.
So, ask yourself, guys, why is the media making it a presumption that the ICE agents are in the wrong?
No one has a right to impede federal law enforcement.
Those are the rules.
That's what they've been talking about for years.
Now that the situation is reversed and they can weaponize it politically, things have somehow changed.
I'm very confused about why the conversation is about what you're talking about.
Instead of focusing on what really matters, which is why in one city, in one place, do we have these problems?
We deport 10 times the number of illegal aliens out of Texas than we do out of Minneapolis.
Why do we hear nothing out of Texas about any of the same problems that we have in Minneapolis?
I'll tell you why.
Because in Texas, we have the cooperation and support of local law enforcement so that we can do these operations safely, keeping U.S. citizens and others protected and safe.
That is not what we have in Minneapolis.
And the fact that it's the administration that's being blamed for the utter failure of leadership in Minneapolis is not right.
It's not appropriate.
But what's the Democrat response?
Waltz is calling it organized brutality and comparing it to Anne Frank and the Holocaust, which is completely disgusting.
Check it out.
We have got children in Minnesota hiding in their houses, afraid to go outside.
Many of us grew up reading that story of Ann Frank.
Somebody's going to write that children's story about Minnesota.
And there's one person who can end this now.
And remember, there's a pattern here.
We just had these lunatics invade a church last week.
And the invasion of City's church was even worse than we initially thought.
Agitators blocked stairs so parents were unable to get to their children at Sunday school.
One of these rioters told a young child, do you know your parents are Nazis and they're going to burn in hell?
Think about that.
That's happening in America in 2026.
But it gets worse, much worse, actually, because this isn't just politicians running their mouths.
There's an actual organized infrastructure behind all of this.
As I referenced earlier, investigative journalist Cam Higbee infiltrated a signal chat groups that these anti-ICE activists are using to coordinate their operations.
And what he found is stunning.
Think about what you just saw in that training manual and in those chats.
Each area of Minneapolis has its own signal group, sometimes multiple groups.
They use emojis to designate their roles.
They have mobile patrols who spend their entire shift driving around looking for federal vehicles.
All these things magically disappear at midnight every night.
When they spot one, they send it to Plate Checker, who cross-references it against a database of known federal agents.
They have dispatchers running calls all day long telling people where ICE has been spotted and how to impede them.
They track the size of the federal units, their activities, locations, uniforms, times, and equipment.
These people are running a quasi-police force to hunt down federal agents.
And Cam Higbee found that they delete, again, their chats daily, refresh the groups, use code names to avoid detection.
At any given time, in each small zone, there are 50 people actively pursuing federal agents.
This is coordination at a level we've never seen before.
This is like what the Taliban was doing in Afghanistan, what insurgents in Iraq were doing to our special forces troops.
This is the same playbook.
And here's the kicker.
Higby found evidence suggesting that local police may be cooperating with these groups.
One of the signal groups, admins, has been identified as Amanda Noel Kohler, a former Tim Waltz campaign strategist.
And there's other reports suggesting that his own state's lieutenant governor is involved as well.
The man who was killed on Saturday, Alex Pretty, was reportedly a member of one of these neighborhood signal ICE groups.
This wasn't some random bystander walking down the street.
This was someone who was part of a coordinated network specifically designed to track, follow, and confront and harass federal agents.
Who's funding all of this?
Who's training these people?
Because this level of organization doesn't just happen spontaneously.
This isn't organic.
There's nothing organic about this.
This isn't grassroots activism.
This is a coordinated, weaponized campaign.
And the fact that the Waltz campaign strategist is allegedly running one of these signal groups while Tim Waltz threatens to deploy the National Guard against federal agents tells you everything you need to know.
I imagine they're also trying to cover up the fraud that's been discovered in Minnesota as well.
So when you see what's happening in Minneapolis right now, understand this isn't organic.
It's designed to look that way.
The media and the narrative that they come up with is going to make it seem that way, but this isn't grassroots.
This is a coordinated campaign to prevent the United States from enforcing its own laws.
Coordinated Campaign Conspiracy00:02:23
Democrats are putting illegal alien criminals over taxpaying law-abiding citizens, and they've created dangerous circumstances for everyone involved.
And here's my question for Waltz, for Fry, for Omar, for all of them.
Why is this the hill you're willing to die on?
Why is preventing the deportation of illegal immigrants, including violent criminals, rapists, murderers, drug dealers, pedophiles?
Why is that so important to you that you're willing to engage in what amounts to sedition and insurrection?
Democrats are even using this to shut down the government once again.
It's all part of their playbook, guys.
We've seen it far too often to not understand what's going on.
And we'll get into all of these corrupt channels of influence and much, much more with Peter Schweitzer coming up in just a few moments.
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Birth Tourism Controversy00:16:20
Joining me now, author of the new book, The Invisible Coup, the one and only Peter Schweitzer.
Peter, great to have you back.
How are you?
I'm great, Don.
Thanks so much for having me.
I appreciate it.
I hope you're in warm Florida and not up in the hinterlands where it's so cold.
Yeah, now I am.
I moved to Florida five years ago, whatever it was, six years ago now, and I'm saying, man, I didn't think I'd like it.
I was like, I grew up in New York.
I love the seasons.
I love that.
And it's this time of year that you're like, you know what?
Florida in August kind of sucks, but it's those six months of winter up north that I'm like, you know what?
I don't miss that at all, actually.
I can go skiing a couple of times a year and get my fill.
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
Those ice storms are kind of a downer.
Well, I just hope everyone's okay.
But yeah, no, it's rough.
It's rough.
So, Peter, you have a new book coming out.
And I thought it was interesting.
The tagline is they didn't just come here.
They were sent here.
You know, obviously we're talking about immigration, all of these things.
You know, what made you shift the immigration debate away from just economics and crime into something much deeper, much more foundational?
I think we're all noticing that now.
None of these things seem to be coincidences.
They all add up, and it was very intentional.
But what was the sort of the catalyst that made you switch your thought process there?
Yeah, it's a great question.
And that's really the thesis of the book, right?
I think enormously important what's been accomplished, sealing the border, enormously important.
But it's, I think, only the beginning of the issue because what's happening is this battle is taking place.
I would say a civilizational battle is taking place inside the United States.
And it is foundational, as you said.
The thing that really turned me on this, Don, was I ran across these quotes.
I was doing some research on immigration.
I ran across these quotes from leaders in Mexico.
And I could read like a dozen of them.
I'm just going to read two of them really briefly, if I may, that kind of led me to think, huh, maybe this is more than just about the economy or about Mexico getting remittances.
The first one's from one of Scheinbaum's top aides.
She wrote it in December of 2024.
It's in a government report, quote, we already know that the Mexican population in the United States reaches 39.9 million.
We Mexicans are reclaiming our territory.
That's an actual quote from an aide.
This is from a powerful Mexican senator, Morena Party, the ruling party.
He's on the National Defense Committee.
And he said this just a couple of years ago, quote, Mexicans are in our territories, California, Nevada, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Wyoming.
We're going to take back the territory that was stolen for us.
And so I looked at those quotes and I thought, well, okay, maybe this is just bravado, right?
These guys are just kind of, you know, saying stuff.
And then I started looking at the actual infrastructure that Mexico has in the United States.
And of course, the book is about not just Mexico.
It's about the Muslim Brotherhood.
It's about China.
But I started looking at the infrastructure that Mexico has in the country and what they're doing.
And what I found, Don, is they have these dozens of Mexican government officials that live in the United States.
So they work for the Mexican government.
They're senior officials, but they live in the United States.
And they were neck deep in the LA riots last year.
They're deeply involved in these Minneapolis riots.
And so I realized this is not just about people choosing to move because of the economy.
They are being pushed and encouraged.
And the Mexican government sees this as a powerful political tool to exert sovereignty inside the United States.
And that was really the trigger.
And that led me to look at other people like China and the Muslim Brotherhood, et cetera.
Yeah, because, I mean, it's pretty rampant across.
It's not just Mexico, but you describe mass migration as the most powerful political weapon ever aimed at the United States.
Walk us through maybe some of that evidence that convinced you this is organized rather than organic.
You mentioned some of the stuff about Mexico.
Obviously, we talk about, I was reading articles.
I think it stemmed from your book about millions of Chinese coming of voting age in the next, you know, by the next election cycle.
Specifically, what did you uncover about essentially birth tourism also and that industry?
Yeah, the thing about all of this is that it's so well organized.
And again, it's not me saying it.
You've got all these sources from Mexico.
And then you switch to China and you look at the issue of birth tourism, which I think a lot of people have the impression that like, okay, you know, maybe this is sort of a problem.
You know, people come here and they give birth.
And so, you know, we're giving them citizenship.
And that maybe occasionally happens.
What China has done is they've created this industrial model where they've done this at scale.
And I'm going to give the numbers in a minute, but it's organized.
So the Chinese Communist Party, beginning in 2011, started running articles in the Big Daily Communist Party newspaper.
And the article was about how you living in China as a senior CCP official have a constitutional right, in their words, to go to the United States, just travel there, give birth to the child, fly back to China, raise your child here in China, but your child is going to be a U.S. citizen.
And when they turn 18, they're going to be able to vote.
They're going to be able to give to political campaigns.
They're going to be able to apply for sensitive government jobs.
So they were encouraging this.
And then I thought, okay, well, surely we're tracking this.
And what I realized is like the federal government has no idea because when birth certificates are issued in the United States, which is proof that gives you U.S. citizenship, I was born here.
The birth certificates don't say the nationality of the parents.
So like nobody's keeping track of this.
So if you ask the federal government, as I had all the government agencies, nobody has a clue how many American citizens, I'm going to put that in air quotes, were born here, but are being raised overseas with this strategy.
But the Chinese government, Don, is tracking this and the numbers are eye-popping.
The Chinese government estimates that beginning 13, 14 years ago, every single year, roughly 100,000 Chinese have come to the United States, given birth, gotten that birth certificate, gone back to China with a baby and are raising the child there.
That means more than a million people that are quote unquote American citizens being raised in China.
They're going to be able to vote and that wave is going to hit in a couple of years.
Well, they're going to be able to run for president.
Talk about Manchurian candidate.
I mean, you know, that's crazy to me.
I mean, you know, honestly, it's like they're just playing a different game than we are, man.
You know, we've been asleep at the wheel for decades and they're just playing a long game that it doesn't feel like many people in our government could even comprehend.
Yeah, no, it's a level of planning and thinking about these issues.
You know, people could say we're naive.
People could just say that we're not in tune with the world.
Whatever the excuse is, previous administrations have really not addressed this.
President Trump, of course, in his first term, did try to crack down on the birth tourism in California, got no cooperation from local and state authorities.
You've got this case coming before the Supreme Court.
So you've got that birthright citizenship where they do birth tourism.
They come here and have the child.
There's an even more bizarre and troubling version of this, and that's the use of surrogates.
So you have rich guys in China linked to the CCP that will pay an American woman $50,000 to carry their child.
The Chinese CCP guy will donate his sperm, impregnate an American woman.
They'll pay her 50 grand.
She will carry the child to birth.
then the child will be picked up, usually not by the parents, and then transported back to China.
That child is going to be a U.S. citizen.
It even has a quote unquote American mother.
And we have no idea how many of those are taking place.
The Wall Street Journal ran a story like three weeks ago.
They found one guy in China who has more than 100 children born in the United States doing this, just one guy.
And we found in just Southern California, we found on 107 Chinese-owned surrogacy companies that specialize in arranging these kinds of things.
So it's absolutely horrific.
And we have been largely clueless about it.
I'm expecting we're going to see some things here from the Trump administration, but there's a huge layer of bureaucracy that just does not want to address these issues.
Yeah, I mean, this almost reminds me of some of these, you've seen, you know, read the Cold War stories where Russians would have them, they would train them in a place that sounded like an American city in Russia.
I mean, and yet it's probably what they're doing.
I mean, so they have an American identity, they feel American, whatever it is, but they report to mother China.
Yeah, yeah.
And the thing is, again, when I originally thought of birth tourism involving the Chinese or people from Mexico, I thought, okay, well, I think it's too loose, but they're being raised here, right?
They're going to be Americanized here.
But with the Chinese, they're not.
They're not being raised here.
They're being raised in the CCP.
They're being raised in communist China by the CCP.
And as you point out, we know that when Chinese come to the United States, students, they're coming here as researchers.
Even if they don't want to cooperate with the CCP, the CCP will threaten their family.
They will threaten their friends.
If you do not cooperate, bad things are going to happen in the home country.
So they have enormous leverage.
And let's remember that 2016 election with Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton was settled by, what, 60 to 80,000 votes.
We're talking about 1 million from China.
And by the way, all they need to do is quote unquote establish residency by declaring a residency somewhere.
And they can vote in pretty much any state that they want to if they do it soon enough.
So it's a massive, massive electoral risk that we're facing.
So, I mean, you mentioned a U.S. visa program.
It's quote unquote, designed by a Chinese spy that allows Beijing to pour essentially tens of millions into American elections.
Can you name the names and explain how that mechanism worked?
Because, you know, it's all part of it.
I imagine they're hitting it from multiple angles, but that's a big one.
Yeah, yeah.
So this is a visa program that, on the face of it, I think sounds good.
And there probably is some good that have come of it.
It's the EB5 visa program.
This is where if you're a foreign national and you invest a million dollars in the United States, you create a certain number of jobs, you can get permanent resident status in the United States.
Okay.
I mean, in theory, we want people to invest in America, whatever.
But of course, the system has been massively abused.
And it turns out that the person that lobbied and got that bill passed in the early 1990s was a lady named Maria Tsai, who was later outed by a Senate committee as a Chinese spy.
So that's the person that kind of pushed and got this thing passed.
The program is dominated by Chinese nationals.
Over to 90% of the people that are getting permanent resident status through this are Chinese nationals.
And John, they brag in China about getting permanent resident status here, but not actually living here, which you're kind of like, well, then why even get it?
Well, part of the reason is if you have permanent resident status in the United States, you can't legally vote in an election, but you can legally donate to political campaigns.
And that's what a lot of these Chinese investors are doing.
They're not living here.
They're not part of our culture.
They're not part of our society.
They're not becoming American in any way.
They're staying in China and they are donating tens of millions of dollars to political campaigns here.
I probably don't need to, you're not going to be shocked by this.
Those donations tend to break 80, 20 Democrat, Republican.
So there's a clear, clear plan.
I'm shocked that the majority would be voting for Democrats from essentially an enemy nation looking to destroy us from within.
I'm really shocked to hear that, Vader.
Yeah.
So, you know, so this is another example where they have manipulated or weaponized our immigration system.
Again, in theory, okay, we want people to invest in America.
We want, if they want to be part of the American dream, we want.
But they have taken that program and bastardized it in a way that is now a strategic weapon they are using to manipulate our political campaigns.
And that's what I mean by weaponization of immigration.
That's why we need to wake up to the fact it's not just about jobs and crime in our streets, although that's very important.
It's about something bigger.
It's about these political networks that they are now operating in our country, trying to undermine America.
So going back to sort of Mexico, your book also documents what you call, you know, quote, you know, Mexico's election plot involving 50 plus Mexican consulates allegedly running shadow campaigns to influence U.S. elections.
You know, what specifically are these consulates doing?
And how did you uncover that aspect of it?
Yeah, no, that's another part of this infrastructure that Mexico has.
So think about this.
The United Kingdom and China have six and seven consulates respectively in the United States.
Mexico has 53.
And they have them in all kinds of interesting places.
There is one, by the way, in St. Paul, Minnesota, and there's evidence that they are involved in helping to organize these anti-ICE protests.
But in terms of their electoral manipulation, there are a couple of things going on.
One is we have evidence that these consulates are getting involved and are involved in partisan politics.
So we know in May of 2024, for example, presidential election year, that they had a meeting at the Oklahoma City Consulate, Mexican consulate there, and they brought in consular officials.
These are diplomats.
They're not supposed to be involved in domestic politics from Los Angeles to Orlando, Florida, and everyone in between.
And they met in Oklahoma City.
They had people fly in from the foreign ministry in Mexico.
The foreign minister addressed the meeting by video.
So pretty important meeting.
The one other group that was there were Democratic Party activists.
And the conversation was about how they had turned California from red to blue.
They had turned Arizona from red to blue.
And how were they going to continue that wave in the rest of the country?
One of the guys that was there said, you know, Republicans are pushing this immigration issue.
You know, they're going to learn when you F around, you're going to find out.
So that was the gist of the message.
There were also some senior ranking state officials there from Nevada, a swing state, who were there as well.
So they are getting involved in partisan politics.
They've done it in other ways.
They are frightened to death of the immigration agenda that the Trump administration is carrying forward and that Democrats, sorry, Republicans in the Congress are endorsing.
So they are getting involved in political activities to try to prevent it from further happening because they have so much to lose.
That's the nature of what they're dealing with.
So my view is, first of all, why do they have 53 consulates?
They don't need that many.
And second of all, any of these embassy officials, I name them in the book, they ought to be kicked out of the country.
This is not what you're supposed to do as a diplomat.
You're not supposed to be getting involved in electoral politics.
So, you know, your investigation links political leaders, you know, global NGOs, of course.
That seems to be the root of so many of these problems and drug cartels.
I mean, how do those three sort of seemingly disparate actors coordinate?
I mean, there's no doubt that it's happening to me.
I mean, when you look at the cartels in Mexico, I mean, that's a very clear link.
I think you've written a book about that as well.
What does each one get out of them out of sort of the arrangement?
Yeah, no, that's a great question because it's not always an obvious fit.
Drug Cartels and Open Borders00:03:37
But let's begin with what the drug cartels want.
The drug cartels want a couple of really basic things that are at the top of the list.
Number one, they love open borders.
They made far more money smuggling human beings across the U.S.-Mexican border during the Biden administration than they make selling drugs.
I mean, it's just much more highly profitable.
So they want open borders, and they've said that.
Second thing they want is they want an end to military operations done by the United States or by allied countries in Latin America against the drug cartels.
You know, where they go in and they take out these drug houses, they take out the leadership.
They want those two things done.
Now, here's where it gets very interesting.
We know that the drug cartels have worked with all sorts of prominent Latin American politicians from Mexico to Colombia to Brazil.
A lot of progressive leaders are involved with the drug cartels.
That's been established.
I name those officials in the book.
What's happened over the last 10 years is that progressives in North America, like Bernie Sanders, AOC, Greg Cesar, other people in Congress, have wanted to work jointly with Latin American progressives.
And Bernie Sanders set up an entity in 2018 called Progressive International.
It's run by his former foreign advisor.
His chief of staff has participated in their events.
AOC's been there.
Craig Zesar, U.S. senators, et cetera.
What does Progressive International do?
Their leadership, about a third of their leadership are officials that are directly tied to the drug cartels.
I name them in the book.
I give you the evidence.
It's very, very clear-cut.
And what Progressive International has done is made two of its biggest agenda points.
What?
The two things I mentioned earlier.
Number one, open borders.
And number two, ending military operations against the drug cartels in Latin America.
So they have now invaded effectively the political space north of the border.
And they are actively involved in particularly pushing and helping groups like the Democratic Socialists of America, who are involved in other organizations like the Sao Paulo Forum that we know are directly funded by the drug cartels.
It's a complete mess.
And that's why you've seen people like Bernie Sanders, who used to be really tough on the border, slowly evolve and change their position.
I think it's because of this influence that's coming from south of the border.
Interesting.
I mean, maybe if we talk about some of your other books and how these things are all linked, in Clinton Cash, you followed the money from foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation.
In Red Handed, you traced American elites enriching themselves through China.
In Blood Money, you document how China's fentanyl warfare, you know, and what that does to the American populace.
And how, you know, that's where we talked about working with the cartels.
How does the invisible coup complete this sort of investigative arc?
Or does it open really an entirely new front there?
Well, I think what this book is really about is about civilizational warfare in the United States.
So what does that mean?
Well, what it means is what we're really fighting for is our way of life, the American system.
And that's why I think that the American First idea, American First is not America only, but it's America First, right?
Why it's so important is it says we have something amazing here that we need to protect, and that is the American way of life, American civilization, which is unique in the world.
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And when you look at what our enemies and adversaries are saying, they agree.
I mean, what the Chinese will say, and again, I quote them in the book, what the Chinese will say is what they're really competing against with the United States is, yeah, there's a military competition, there's an AI competition, we're fighting for spheres of influence, we're fighting in the developing world for allies and for friends.
But what it's really about in their mind is defeating American civilization, which they view as Judeo-Christian in its orientation and favoring individualism.
And they reject that.
If you look at south of the border with Mexico and a lot of the progressives in Latin America, they really have played up in recent years the indigenous cultures in their country.
So that's why you have President Scheinbaum of Mexico talking about the great Aztec civilization and how things all went to pot when the Spanish conquistadors arrived.
It's not just debating history.
It's saying we are different.
We are unique.
We are collectivist and we are antithetical to what the United States stands for.
So I would argue this is about the very essence of our way of life.
It's not just about our jobs.
It's not just about safe streets.
It's about the very basis of civilization.
And if you look at what's going on in Minneapolis, that's what this is about ultimately.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I was going to ask you what this is about.
What is the nexus to all of this and what's going on in Minnesota?
I mean, are there foreign actors standing in the flames there?
Yeah, yeah, there absolutely are.
So Mexico has a consulate in St. Paul, which fits the pattern where other things have happened.
And some of those groups, there's a group called CLUS, that's the acronym that's involved in a lot of these anti-ICE protests.
They share the same address as the Mexican consulate, and they work together all the time.
There's another group called Mirac that is involved in organizing a lot of these anti-ICE protests.
They also work very, very closely with the consulate.
And if you look last year at what happened in Los Angeles and after Los Angeles, you have these Mexican officials.
Again, these are senior government officials in Mexico that live inside the United States.
There's a guy named Alejandro Robles who lives in Ontario, California.
He sits in the Mexican parliament.
He's the head of international operations for the Morena Party, which is the ruling party.
In 2025, he went across the country in his words to quote unquote organize the militancy inside the United States.
He met with Antifa groups.
He spoke before them.
He went to other groups.
And the whole purpose of it was to increase radical activism inside the United States.
You look at some of the other groups that are operating in Minneapolis, Freedom Road Socialist Organization or Party for Socialism and Liberation.
You'll see a lot of these signs that look exactly similar.
If you look down below, you'll see either PSL or FRSO.
These are both groups that are supported and encouraged by the Chinese Communist Party.
And they have both pledged their allegiance to the Chinese Communist Party.
And they are actively involved in combat in our streets.
So what's going on is, yes, you've got the sort of shrieking Minneapolis middle-aged white women with their whistles, but you also have a very detailed organized effort involving foreign actors.
And what they want, Don, is they want this fight.
They want violence.
They want martyrs because they see this as undermining what the Trump administration is trying to do.
I think without question, I mean, you saw another sort of tragic shooting happen over the weekend.
But then you see how some of this stuff is organized and you read some of the groups.
I mean, these are former special forces soldiers that used to deal with counterinsurgency.
And they're talking about a thousand personal signal chats and their groups and everyone has a role.
I mean, this is not an organic protest.
This is not a peaceful protest.
It's designed and functions almost like a counterinsurgency or an insurgency like what we were dealing with when we were getting into Afghanistan or Iraq at the time.
I mean, these are not people doing this of their own free will and they really want to be there because they believe in these things.
These are organized campaigns designed to create and sow chaos.
If they're able to create violence, I imagine that's probably part of the textbook and part of the playbook.
And no one likes that, but I'm sure they're more than happy to reap the benefits of that.
I mean, this is not a peaceful protest going wrong.
This is an organized insurrection, as far as I'm concerned.
No, I think that's exactly right.
And I think the evidence is overwhelming.
And let's just be clear what Waltz is doing here.
What he's saying is, I mean, think of the arrogance of this.
What he's saying is, I don't like the federal law about immigration that's been on the books for decades.
I don't agree with it.
So I, as a state official, am going to refuse to cooperate.
And then I'm going to encourage other people to disrupt federal law enforcement that are trying to engage in enforcing existing laws.
The last time I remember this happening in American history was Mississippi and Alabama in the 1950s and 1960s.
I mean, that's what he's basically doing.
He's saying, I don't care what voters decided.
I don't care that this law has been on the books for 40 or 50 years.
I have decided I don't like it.
So I am just going to encourage mob rule.
And let's be clear, Waltz wants martyrs.
He thinks this, he's claiming this is all about humanitarian.
It's not.
He wants martyrs because that is going to help his cause.
I think it's disgraceful what he's doing.
And of course, the foreign actors involved absolutely love this because it has Americans butting heads and fighting each other and trying to figure out what's happening rather than looking at what's going on against us from these foreign countries.
Yeah.
And the reality is so many Americans, they're busy.
They're, you know, they're struggling.
Life's not hard.
And life's not easy.
It's hard.
They go through this.
So they're not paying attention.
So the narrative is never going to talk about the organized aspect of that, the foreign infiltration of these groups and or the way they're leading and pushing people to do that.
On a face value, say, oh, my God, look what's happening.
This is the disaster.
It's a terrible thing.
I imagine a very small percentage of people will ever break through and actually look into the subtext and look at what's actually happening and why and understand that it's very purposeful, not at all organic.
Yeah, no, I agree with you.
And here's the thing.
People always ask me when I'm writing my books, oh, all the research you do.
I mean, just be honest with you.
If you look, if you have the time and you have the determination to look, you can find these things.
That's kind of how I make my living.
And so when you look at a lot of this disruption in the streets, they advertise it.
There's another Mexican official who lives in Los Angeles, sits in the Mexican parliament, but lives in Los Angeles, who on Facebook during the Los Angeles riots was cheering on the protesters, the harassment of police, the disruption of everything.
He was cheering it on.
And he was saying, you know, we are part of the permanent resistance.
We are at the forefront of civil resistance inside the United States.
So they're saying it.
It's there.
This is not made up.
This is not speculation.
The evidence is clearly there.
And I think it's just we need to continue to emphasize this message and push it forward and force the rest of the media to pay attention to it.
Yeah, I mean, I have a feeling you won't, which is why it's so important to have guys like you that are willing to do that, even perhaps guys like me that will talk about these things.
That's why we ask people to share it so they understand.
Because again, you're never going to read about these thousands and thousands of signal chats where they're organizing these protests and everyone has a role and the emojis are there describing what people are supposed to do.
And magically at midnight, every night, it disappears entirely.
So they can't trace it back.
I mean, for those who bitched a lot about insurrection about four years ago, five years ago now, they don't seem to be looking into this.
And this is, frankly, obviously an insurrection that's happening.
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And yet they're more than happy to turn a blind eye to it.
Yeah.
Well, the other thing, you're exactly right about that.
The other thing I find interesting is how many on the political left now apparently are in favor of the Second Amendment because they keep pointing out that this, you know, the nurse was carrying and he had a constitutional right to do so.
And, you know, how dare you challenge his right to do so.
And of course, I mean, I've been a longtime gun owner of Concealed Carry.
Me too.
You know, he didn't, yeah, he didn't have his ID with him.
You always have to have your ID.
And the first thing I learned, you probably learned the same thing when you carry Concealed, is you avoid confrontation.
Correct.
You do not go to a violent protest and participate in it and obstruct federal law enforcement when you are carrying a firearm.
That is a really, really stupid, bad idea.
But I do find it encouraging that we now have new support for the Second Amendment, at least by some officials in Minnesota.
So beyond sort of the government officials and some of the NGOs and stuff, a through line in your work is that essentially the American elites are prioritizing personal enrichment over national security.
In this book, who are the domestic enablers of what you're calling the invisible coup?
And we've seen that.
The elites, they, you know, we did that with our jobs.
You know, a couple billionaires said, hey, we're going to save 0.2 cents on a widget, and so we're going to ship the American dream off to China.
Who are the ones that are enabling that to happen?
We've watched it, again, like I said, throughout the decades, as it happened to trade, as it happened to American manufacturing, which created supply line issues and all sorts of other headaches.
Who are the enablers now in the invisible coup as it relates to this migration scandal?
Yeah, a lot of it revolves around political power.
So you have people like Bill Gates and George Soros who fund advocacy groups in the immigration space, the mass migration space.
And these groups are specific and explicit that they view immigration as doing what?
Transforming America.
They say that.
I quote them in the book.
So their agenda is ultimately seeking the transformation of America because America needs to be transformed.
It's not up to snuff and not according to their vision.
But you also have this practical political level where California, even in Minnesota, they benefit from mass migration.
Look at the way congressional seats or the electoral college is determined in this country.
U.S. Census counts people.
It does not count citizens.
I know that the Trump administration is trying to change that, which I think would be a very, very, very good idea.
But California right now, based on what we know of the illegal population in that state, has four more congressional seats than they ordinarily would.
So you think like, okay, well, four seats, is that a big deal?
Those four seats are more, yeah, are more than 13 other states in the United States.
So let's just be clear.
Illegals in California have more congressional representation than 13 other states as far as their congressional seats are concerned.
It also means that they get more in federal block grants.
So they have an incentive.
They want as many illegals in their states as possible because they're going to get more federal money.
They're going to get more political power.
And that's why you're seeing so much resistance.
Minnesota has benefited from this.
The Census Bureau in 2022, under Joe Biden, looked at the 2020 census and said that because of illegals and other factors, Minnesota was another state that benefited from having an overcount.
So I think it is they want to transform the country.
They say so explicitly.
That is their goal through mass migration.
And they see this political advantage that comes from illegal migration.
And let's also realize that every Democrat president, from Bill Clinton to Joe Biden, when they come into office, they completely gut the citizenship requirements to get citizenship in this country.
They ignore criminal background checks.
They ignore the competency requirements.
They ignore the language requirements.
Why?
Because they have done studies and they've determined that among new immigrants, 85% of them vote Democrat.
Now, that evens out over time, but that takes about 20 years.
So they argue and say, I've got quotes from White House emails of Democrats saying people are going to accuse us of running voter mills.
And the biggest naturalization years that we've had in the United States history, modern history, 1996, 2012, and 2024, all of which were what re-election years for Democrats.
So this is about ultimately about political power as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, what accountability mechanisms do you believe should follow from sort of the revelations of the Invisible Coup?
Well, I think the first thing we need to do is take action against some of these foreign actors.
So I think we need to absolutely continue to fight on birthright citizenship.
Supreme Court's going to have some say on that, but I think there are other things that the administration's working on that we need to continue to endorse.
I think we need to be shutting Mexican consulates and making clear you cannot be meddling in our politics.
Don, there is a TV network that they stream on phones from Mexico called Migrant TV.
It's funded by the Mexican government specifically for migrants living in the United States.
And it is complete anti-U.S. propaganda.
They talk about Trumpist fascism in the 2024 election.
They ran glowing stories on Kamala Harris, not so nice on President Trump.
Why are we allowing them to do that?
It's absurd.
So there are actions we can take against foreign actors.
I think we also need to look at possible criminal charges against those who have manipulated the immigration and citizenship process by actually violating the law.
I think there are clear examples of that.
That needs to be the next front as far as fighting this battle.
Great first start with sealing the border, getting these criminals kicking them out, but we need to, I think, take it further steps.
So, you know, Peter, I appreciate it.
Glad you're doing yeoman's work, you know, finding this stuff out.
And hopefully, you know, the administration and those who are watching, you know, take some action on this stuff.
You know, where can we get the book?
Where can people learn more to educate themselves?
And again, hopefully push whether it's whoever it may be, their representatives or otherwise, to act on this information.
Well, thank you.
Yeah, we have a website, theinvisiblecoup.com.
You can find out more about the book.
You can buy the book anywhere.
The response has been amazing.
We've been number one on all books sold on Amazon for the past week.
So there's a lot of interest.
You should be able to find the book anywhere.
And if you go to thedrilldown.com, sorry, if you go to, that's my podcast.
If you go to theinvisiblecoup.com for the book, you can leave a comment.
I'd love to hear your thoughts about the book.
Well, Peter, thank you very much.
As always, look forward to reading it fully myself.
And keep up the good work, man.
We really appreciate it.
Thanks for having me, Don.
Appreciate it.
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