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June 2, 2025 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr
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The Hunt for Solutions: Interview with Rep Wesley Hunt | TRIGGERED Ep.246
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Hey guys, welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.
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Tonight we'll be joined in studio, live, by my good friend, Texas Congressman Wesley Hunt.
He was an Apache helicopter, a West Point graduate, comes from a family of West Point graduates, a great American, a good friend.
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Well, guys, joining me now, my good friend, Army veteran, Apache helicopter pilot, badass in Congress, Wesley Hunt.
How's it going, buddy?
Thank you for having me on, man.
Always happy to be here.
Wesley's one of the guests that I often get into a little bit of trouble with.
Here we go.
It's already started.
As a white man, there's certain things that's a little harder to say these days.
And we go off on these tangents, I'm like, you know what?
Dave Chappelle may or may not come up.
Yeah, Dave Chappelle came up a few minutes ago.
We talk about that.
But listen, hey, I think the brothers of the GOP are doing pretty good right now.
We're hanging in there.
Listen, you guys are fighting, keeping it real.
Listen, I think demographically in the last election, a lot of others kind of were like, okay, we get it now.
Enough of the BS.
Yes.
It's been a big deal.
I know Byron Donald's down here running for governor seems to be crushing it.
I was with him last week at the Bitcoin conference in Vegas.
I mean, he's working the rounds.
He's doing great.
Yeah, we're proud of him.
And so, you know, it's interesting because I'm watching some of the, you, Byron, actual real fighters.
It's so refreshing to see.
Do you see more of that talent being nurtured?
Do you see more people stepping in and willing to get in the game?
You know, not just supportive, but being, you know, getting...
I see it all the time.
I get asked this question a lot because people have seen us lead by example and they realize that we cannot let our country go by the wayside.
We have got to have fighters for this country.
And let me tell you something.
You bring up Byron and me and John James and Burgess.
We are the fearsome four.
But I will tell you that we are proud Americans first.
This is not about race, religion, color, or creed.
We are proud Americans.
And one in three black men voted for your father that last election.
One in three black men.
Why does that happen?
Well, you know, I imagine Hey, there's things you can say that are going to have more efficacy than if I say it.
You know, when Byron says it.
I mean, you're right.
You know, John James and Burgess.
Burgess, who's great.
I mean, I campaigned with him when he ran over in Utah, you know, originally.
He's a badass, and he just got it, and he was sick of this crap.
I imagine a lot of that community doesn't want to be displaced.
They see their kids.
They want them to have jobs.
They don't want them to be displaced by illegals.
They don't want other people getting all the free crap when they have to actually pay for it, not just for themselves, but for others.
They probably aren't a huge fan of men playing women's sports.
I know Burgess, that's a big one for him as someone who was literally a world-class athlete.
I imagine all those things are And that's what this movement is all about.
It's actually about common sense.
And what black people, not just black people, what all people want, what all fathers want, what all men want, they want their children to be protected.
They want to go home and feel safe.
They want their border to be protected.
And that has nothing to do with race.
And what I love about this movement and what we're seeing is this is the most diverse movement that we have seen in the history of this country.
Now, liberals, woke liberals will never admit that.
They'll never say it.
But at the end of the day, when you look at the exit polling and where the country is today and how the progress of this country is going, Most people are actually very satisfied with the direction of the country right now.
You know, I would think so.
I mean, I want to get into some of that because I do feel, you know, there seems to be this sentiment that, you know, hey, Congress itself, I know not you, but like, you know, it's still a body of 535 people, right?
Like, it's a lot.
Isn't doing enough.
You know, I know, you know, the White House is sort of asking about, you know.
Getting Congress to actually codify the doge cuts.
The doge cuts are incredibly popular.
No one wants to see that kind of waste, especially once it's been exposed.
But we can't talk about that.
And again, some of the stuff, I get it.
What people don't understand, some of it's discretionary spending.
You can do that.
Some of it, that's not necessarily in the bill right now because that's about the spending that's already sort of budgeted.
They're two different things.
So some people are missing.
The nuance, and of course the media and the Democrats are going to say, see, they're not doing anything.
So it's not entirely true, but talk about those spending cuts, and how do we get, not just the doge cuts, but some of the other things actually codified into law, right?
You can do it with an executive order, but that's not enough.
I don't want someone else to be able to stroke those away with a pen.
We've got to lock this stuff in.
Well, the first thing you brought up in this conversation was fighters.
We have to be willing to fight for this stuff, and no one's going to give us anything.
And with the right now three or four seat majority, a very slim margin, I understand it's very, very tough to get stuff passed and get stuff done.
But that doesn't mean that we don't fight to do it.
That doesn't mean that we don't show up to work every single week.
Let's bring it to the floor.
Let's see who descends it.
How do we whip these votes?
How do we get them on board to be on board with 77 million people who voted just for this?
One of my favorite things that I see on social media is whenever BJT does something, somebody literally goes up and they said, This is what I voted for.
Liberals come out and attack something.
What do they say?
Oh no, you can't attack this.
This is exactly what I voted for.
These deportations, this is exactly what I wanted.
So guess what?
We in Congress have got to reflect the American people and the sentiment of the American public.
We have to give the people what they want.
We work for them, not the other way around.
And so in order to get this done, we have got to have fighters and people that don't want to stand by the America First agenda because that's why we have the majority in the House.
That's why we have the Senate and the presidency.
Because of those principles, we've got to stick to it.
So what's taking so many of them so long?
I mean, because I see it as the kind of thing, hey, midterms are coming up.
Basically, we're in them, right?
Even if we're 18 months out, we're in them.
If the American people don't see people actually fighting for these things, if they're just like, oh, well, you know, it's fine.
We can preach to you about it when we're in the little room in Texas or wherever it may be.
But once we get to D.C., we don't actually do anything to effectuate that real change.
You know, I'll go do congressional testimony out there.
At this point, it's like Tuesday.
You know what I mean?
It's like my average day.
But people want to actually see that progress being made, not wasted on, you know, whatever contrived investigations they'll come up with, you know, as amplified by the media.
So this goes back to my point, too, about us.
I get it.
A slim majority.
You have people that are in swing districts-ish.
We have some members in California and New York that need something here to help them get re-elected.
I understand that.
I am not a crazy person.
But at the end of the day...
End of discussion.
If you don't get to the primaries, then you're not getting through the general election.
And keep in mind that a lot of people say, well, this agenda is not very popular.
That's not true.
It is wildly popular.
You have to turn off the TV and stop listening to disenfranchised liberals.
And stick to the script.
This is what the people want.
And we've got to put pressure on some of my colleagues, quite frankly, that they're squishy on this stuff.
Like, no, no, no.
We are here because of this.
We've got to work together.
So with the slim majority that you have, can you talk about that dynamic and that process of actually getting those things done?
Because you do see it.
It's like, well, I control the vote, so I'm going to start sticking all this pork in these things.
All the things that we don't really want.
As a voting populace, right?
The people don't want to see those things in there, the random payoffs and kickbacks.
Correct.
Even if it's for the benefit of people in that district, how do you stop that with a three-person majority?
Well, the beauty of what we've seen in the last two CRs that have gotten passed, the big, beautiful bill that got passed, and I think Mike Johnson is doing a good job with a slim majority.
Hats off to him at this time in history, one of the slimmest that we've ever seen in the history of this country.
It also helps when your father's the president.
Yeah.
So when he is able to whip votes and he is able to call people into the Oval Office and he is able to have these substantive conversations with members, it does move the needle.
And that's how we've gotten this far.
People are flummoxed.
They are completely flabbergasted at all that we've been able to get through.
And I'm here to tell you, I've sat in some of these meetings where your father would walk into conference and say, this is how it is.
We really need your vote.
I understand if maybe two of you are not going to, but if two aren't, we need everybody else.
And lo and behold, it happened.
We're living through historic times here, but that's because of strong leadership.
And so I think this trend is going to continue throughout the year, but you are right, as we approach the midterms, that's when we need to actually come together even more to support the agenda and not go rogue, just because you may be in a bit of a swing district.
We need all hands on deck.
So my father wasn't afraid to call out, you know, institutions like Harvard and some of the other universities It's about time.
I mean, do you agree that that was sort of a – obviously you do – that it's sort of a much-needed wake-up call to these universities who are basically pushing a globalist, often foreign-funded sort of agenda of indoctrination as opposed to providing basically sound pro-American education.
Things that make sense.
No more of the underwater basket weaving degrees and then people say, I want you to pay off my half a million dollar loan.
Make a plumber pay for it.
It doesn't seem right.
I mean, you went to West Point.
I mean, some of the stuff I hear out of even there.
It's like, it's the United States Military Academy.
And yet that was going on there.
What message should we be taking away from this stance?
And how do we actually achieve it?
Well, the good thing is the president put me on the West Point Board of Visitors.
Oh, very nice.
I will have some impact on the curriculum and what happens.
And my first meeting is on July the 11th, and I can't wait for that.
But when you look at some of these schools like Harvard, you have billions and billions of dollars in your endowment.
And then you're asking for federal funds to indoctrinate people, to teach people basically how to be anti-American.
You have, in some cases, virtual terrorists.
Sitting on campus, and we are paying you to do that, that's unacceptable.
So to finally have a White House that's willing to say, look, if you are going to use these funds to teach and to raise strong, smart Americans, and if you're going to spend on a bunch of BS, then guess what?
You're not getting any more money.
And by the way, this money for you is tax-free because it's a non-profit anyway.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, how do they have a $75 billion endowment, and then they're taking more money from the government.
They're doing research on stuff that no one needs research on.
None of it's actually verifiable.
I mean, it is...
Yes, and the fact that we are challenging this, this is why Elon was brought on board, this is why we have Doge.
We are finally looking at these things with a fine-tooth comb, and we're unveiling that a lot of this stuff has got to go, and the American public is here for it.
And this is the first time actually in the history of this country that we have seen something like this and actually seen somebody go through with it.
During the Obama years, they had that website up for a little while.
It was a Doge-like type program that they were trying to start.
That lasted all but for a cup of coffee because they didn't have the guts to see it through.
But the fact that we are actually looking at this and making cuts is very important for Congress to continue to codify these cuts because, again, this is what the American public wants.
We haven't done our job in 20 years, full disclosure.
Yeah.
We have not gotten to individual appropriations bills in 20 years.
And so this administration understands that.
We bring in Doge to actually go through what should be done, and then we as Congress have got to get back to voting on individual appropriations bills, codifying these cuts, and doing right by the American people.
So we've continually sort of seen these activist judges out there.
They're attempting to block common sense policies, things that people actually voted for, like with the Trump Liberation Day tariffs.
Again, that's a negotiating point, and it was very effective.
It brought people to the table.
These things actually make sense.
How do we ensure that the will of the people is reflected in my father's agenda and that you get these things done?
You know, that it isn't constantly thwarted by guys, you know, one of 600 and something judges around the country, all of a sudden assume more power than the president of the United States.
How do we stop these unelected judges from imposing their will, their politics into the agenda and into the future of America?
We have to continue to fight tooth and nail.
This America First agenda must continue, and we the people have an opportunity every two years to decide the direction of this country.
The midterms are coming.
We have President Trump for the next three years.
My guess is it says it's looking really good, too.
So at the end of the day, we the people who have spoken, got wrong.
Whoa, whoa.
I mean, yeah, yeah.
But of course.
Good answer, that was really, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This could go one of two ways right now.
It could go really bad.
I'm down with that.
That would be awesome.
But I think as long as we continue to understand that We the people have an opportunity to continue what's going on.
And if you do not like the corruption that we have seen, if you don't like the hiding of all the money and all the funds and all of our money going to woke issues and indoctrination, then guess what?
We must, as a people, vote accordingly.
Now, it's our job.
It's our job to inform the people.
And this is where I feel like my colleagues, oftentimes, we don't speak up enough.
We don't fight hard enough.
We do not go out and spread the good word and tell the American public what's really going on, all of us, as a collective unit.
So this is where it's very, very important for us to understand that if we don't work together, then the American public is going to vote against it because we didn't get anything done.
We voted for this.
They didn't do it.
You know what?
To hell with them.
We've got to prevent that.
I know that you know that.
I know that.
I know that.
I've been vocal about it for a long time.
I understand it's sort of an easy existence in Washington, D.C. to be a weak Republican.
You can be kind of Republican-like.
You can be like 90% Republican or conservative, but you don't face any consequences if you give up when it actually matters.
How is it that the left can make even, Defending MS-13.
And they have no problem going all in on that.
Whereas we do seem to still have a problem for a lot of your colleagues going all in on the 90-10 issues.
Yes.
Yes, so people are, it's very hard for people to try to walk a fine line and make a decision and stick with it and have the guts and the stones in the back.
to do it.
People have a hard time doing that and I understand that but also I will say this what we're seeing from the White House it's actually working.
You talk about the tariffs.
Presidents have been talking about this for decades but no one had the guts to actually take the short term loss for the long term gain.
When you show the American public that this actually is going to work, When we wake up in about a year from now, you see where the stock market is at.
And you see that we are in a better position from a manufacturing standpoint in this country.
You're going to look back at this tough leadership decision that had to be made.
You're going to say, it worked.
Thank you.
As opposed to having every run-of-the-mill politician that does this.
Oh, this bull said this.
Go here.
Oh, this bull said that.
Go this way, that way, this way, that way.
You're wishy-washy.
Then what happens?
Nothing.
So things are being enacted right now like Doge.
Like the tariffs.
Like what's happening on our southern border.
By the way, it's fixed.
You go to our southern border now, it's a fixed border.
We're trying really hard to do this.
Trump was able to do this in a month.
Just shut it down.
So the notion that, you know, What else could it possibly be?
Of course it was.
All they had to do was leave things alone.
Yes.
And I think the saying of we didn't need any more new laws.
We needed a new president.
No true has ever been spoken.
Do Americans understand, since we're talking a little bit about midterms, do they understand that even if there are some of these guys that are a little wishy-washy, that that's still more important than a Democrat?
Because that's what I'm worried about.
You see it in some of the special elections that have happened.
It's like, no, we got what we won and we're winning.
It's like, well, yeah, but you just lost the Wisconsin Supreme Court, so that's probably a state you lose when they redistricted and it's congressional seats that you lose because they will play every game imaginable with activist judges to do it.
But they were like, no, no, no, but we don't have to vote in that one.
It's not that important.
It's one seat.
Well, that one seat made a big difference.
How do we get that message out there that people understand that they still have to be engaged, they have to be involved, they can't rest on the laurels?
Hey, we won a presidential.
You win a presidential, you lose a House and Senate.
It's like none of it matters.
It's a two-year presidency, not a four-year presidency.
And the Democrats damn well know that.
That's a hell of a question.
This actually does kind of keep me up at night.
Because what we have to understand is a lot of people in this country, personally, me included, we didn't follow necessarily the Republican Party.
We followed President Trump.
We followed your father.
And so many people turned out to vote.
77 million people vote.
They didn't vote for the party.
They voted for the change that your father is enacting as we live and breathe.
And so we have to keep that fire going.
And it wasn't that long ago.
You are absolutely correct.
The midterms are upon us.
They are literally already here.
We're already having these conversations.
And so those same people that came out to vote in full force for MAGA have got to come out in full force again in the midterms.
And it's just hard to keep that fire burning, especially after, you know, honestly, it was one of the most amazing political years in the history of this country.
And it was an honor for me to even be a part of it and be able to campaign with your father and do all this stuff.
Yeah.
I want to see my dad in one of those boots that go up to here, the tighty-whities.
He'll never do it!
I'll never fully understand that one myself, but that's just me.
I'd rather be in the woods hunting and fishing, so it's a little different.
I'm okay with it.
But I was like, really?
But what is actually amazing, though, is during the campaign, and even now, you go to these places where you don't...
I mentioned I was in Vegas last week for the Bitcoin conference, and it's like, let's Las Vegas.
It's a big melting pot of people coming in from all over.
It's like, no negative to me.
Everyone's thumbs up.
I'm like, I almost wonder like, where is the Democrat Party?
Because you see these things and races are still close and whatever it may be, and yet I'm like, Well, the Democrats are also doing this solid because they are runnerless.
They have no leader.
Yeah.
It's the first time we've had a bench and they got, like, what do they got?
Like, they're like, come on, Harris will be a great president.
I'm like, really?
You're going to run that back.
AOC!
I'm writing them checks.
I'm like, you know...
bring them back please They don't have a bench.
They don't have a leader.
And now they're in trouble because they don't have anything to stand for.
They don't have anything to run for.
They can only run against our agenda.
And that's actually very helpful to us coming up in the midterms.
And I hope that they don't figure that out.
But that doesn't mean that we rest on our laurels and do nothing.
We have got to continue to deliver.
So, you know, over the last couple of weeks, obviously, you know, many Americans are rightly concerned about the How do we demand, how do we get transparency that the American people frankly deserve regarding the fitness of their commander-in-chief?
I mean, hell, you and I have been talking about this for four years, right?
But it was obvious that he wasn't there.
Well, who was in charge?
Who's controlling the auto pen?
It doesn't seem like that was actually anyone elected to actually do that job.
And now they're like, oh, oh, I didn't know.
My bad.
We had no idea.
I'm like, well, you guys are in the room with them every day.
How did you not know?
But I could watch on TV and in five minutes know, like, yeah, that ain't right.
How many White House press briefings were there?
Yeah.
How many times did Joe Biden Or get lost on a stage.
Or get lost on a Easter Bunny.
It was obvious to us what was going on.
The Easter Bunny won't.
I mean, if you guys don't remember that, I mean, it was literally the White House Easter Egg Roll.
I think it was last year.
And the Easter Bunny is grabbing me like, no, don't talk to me.
I mean, it was like, I mean.
We saw this.
Yeah.
With our own two eyes.
Yeah.
And people need to be held accountable for that.
Actually.
People have got to do that.
Does that actually happen?
It can happen when we're in charge.
Yeah.
But again, we have to fight for it.
And Democrats are going to say, you know, left and right, oh, no, it was toward the end.
We didn't know what was going on.
He was fine.
And if he was so fine, then why did Kamala Harris end up being the nominee?
Yeah.
Like, that's not that debate.
I mean, what are you talking about?
Well, of course.
And, you know, you read all the stuff now about, you know, his cancer.
And I don't wish cancer...
And they tried to...
Doesn't mean I like the guy, but I don't wish ill on anyone, really.
For the most part, yeah.
There's a couple, maybe.
There's always somebody, bro.
With him, it's almost hard.
His people did those things.
I don't think he's capable of even understanding it.
But that's part of the problem, right?
You see the cancer thing, and you're like, I mean, there's a blood test for that.
I got tested for prostate cancer this year because I hit an age where it makes sense to start looking at it.
It's like there's no way you can get to stage four and level nine on whatever the name of the test is and not know.
Yes.
And yet...
I mean, those things do go undiagnosed for people who can't afford any health care, don't give a shit, they don't bother.
I mean, this guy literally has his own team of doctors whose only job it is to make sure he's healthy.
How does that happen?
So this is, well, I think what's going to come out in the history books is this has been one of the largest cover-ups in American history.
Oh, it's got to be bigger than Watergate.
I mean, this makes Watergate look like kindergarten, right?
Absolutely.
It's a choir boy compared to what we just saw for the last four years.
And you asked a very poignant question.
Who was running our country?
Yeah.
And when you look at just how diametrically opposed the current administration is compared to, we know who's in charge now.
We know.
We know who's in charge.
You see, when you look at that contrast as to what we see now to then, again, it's up to us.
It's up to Jim Jordan.
It's up to our judiciary.
We cannot let this go, though.
And I'm going to push it to the best of my ability, to be honest with you, because this is borderline treasonous.
And we find out the people that did this, you lied to the American people.
For four years about the health of the president of the free world, that's unacceptable.
Yeah, I mean, even the media enablers who are now saying, hey, this is a really big scandal.
Fake Tapper was like, I'm like, what do you mean?
What are you talking about?
By the way, I don't mind it.
I hope they sort of go all in on the issue because I think a big part of preserving our democracy is actually eroding the credibility of the people who preach a lot about democracy but could not care less.
Yes.
And they preach about it, but see, now what you're finding out is, well, now they lost.
So now they get to come clean.
Yeah.
It's almost like the excuse, well, you know, Trump, he looked a little shaky there for half a second.
You know, it's almost like it's their excuse to go after him.
Like, remember, he walked down the, I think it was at the West Point graduation.
A couple years ago.
You know, he walked, it was raining, and he literally held on to the banister.
He's like, oh my God!
Look how slow he's going.
No, because he understands.
He's like, he doesn't want to wipe out on TV, unlike Joe Biden, who is totally comfortable.
He's like, I'm just not going to do it.
I don't mind holding the banister to not give them what they're looking for.
But when he did that, he was in the later stages of dementia and Alzheimer's combined, all sorts of other neurological issues.
It's like, I don't know, he just stood there and shook hands of every graduate going through there for three hours in the rain.
I imagine he's pretty capable, but that's the weakness you're going to pick up.
But you had no idea what was going on when Joe Biden froze mid-sentence for seven minutes and walked off a stage and got lost.
Or that debate.
Or the first debate.
Honestly, that was an interesting one.
I was with my daughter.
She's a big golfer.
I remember it very clearly because I was literally on a plane, jet blue, flying out west.
She was going to some golf tournament or clinic, whatever it was.
I'm watching this thing.
And at first I was like, yeah, yeah.
And then after I was like, man.
And again, given what they tried to do, it was like, I felt bad.
And then you start thinking about it even further and you're like, I feel bad for our country.
Because it's been rudderless.
And we saw what happened.
With weak leadership.
In four years, we went from a time of prosperity to a time of poverty.
We went from a time of peace to a time of war.
And it's like, when you look at what's going on, you know, Ukraine, right?
Like millions of people died for no reason, simply because America was a rudderless ship and we exuded weakness as opposed to strength.
And when you put it like that as a, as a warfighter.
You've been in the line of fire.
When you put it in those terms, it's a very somber thought.
It's a sobering feeling to think that because a few bureaucrats lied to the American people, millions of people died all over the world.
We had world peace.
We had the Abraham Accords.
I mean, we moved the embassy to Jerusalem and Israel.
So that means Hamas was like, hands off.
Iran was completely bankrupt.
We were doing everything right by leading from the front.
And you mean to tell me that in four years, all that goes to hell in a handbasket and people are dying because of feckless leadership?
That's a good point.
When you put in those terms, that actually gets me because it's unacceptable.
So when you take that further, we kind of touched on the auto pen a little bit, but, you know, the revelations about Biden's basically extensive use of auto pen, even, you know, for significant documents, you know, whether it's just pardons and you read the stories, you know, well, you know, Hunter was the guy that basically said to give himself a pardon and whatever it may be.
But I mean, this is, you know, I mean, even as detailed in like Yahoo News, like this isn't like...
conservatives people saying it.
I mean, Jake Tapper's doing the fake sort of like, oh my God, I can't believe we missed this.
It's a huge scandal.
Even those guys are saying it.
PBS is saying it.
I mean, it's deeply trouble, but doesn't this, you know, auto-penn presidency raise serious questions about who is actually in charge and bypass the accountability we expect from a No one knows about it.
There is no transparency.
That's perhaps even a bigger problem than the decline.
We had unelected officials that were running this country.
President Trump brings in Elon Musk's, and then the left freaks out and loses their mind because he's an unelected official.
But at least we know who's in charge and what he has been directed to do by the president and leader of the free world.
So the dichotomy here again is in America's face.
Here is the beauty of social media.
Here is the beauty of the lack of efficacy now for legacy media.
And that is, people are now seeing the truth.
Yeah, you needed four years.
I'm kind of glad.
That's my point.
Listen.
I'm glad we have that four years.
Not for those Russians that are dying.
Yeah, of course.
But for us, I'm glad that happened.
No one with a brain doesn't think we actually won 2020.
And I did countless hours of testimony because of it and all the stuff.
And the J6 committee, and I'm brought up because I'm apparently a terrorist insurrectionist and all these things.
I didn't know.
Listen, I'm a reasonable guy.
I may break balls a lot.
I don't know that I would air our private conversations on this.
Maybe not.
It's edgy.
It matters.
Does Congress have oversight here?
Do they have, you know, not just the ability to do it, but the will to actually get to the bottom of this?
Because I do feel like, Nailed it.
The ability, absolutely.
The will, that's the question.
Those are two different conversations.
I have the will.
I tell you that.
Me and my colleagues have the will.
I promise you that.
But this also translates to leadership.
And look, we have got to hold our leaders accountable as well.
This goes for Speaker Johnson on down the line.
This goes for Johnson.
This goes for Scalise.
This goes for Emmer.
This goes for everyone who's in leadership.
Look, this is what we want as well.
And I kind of have a general rule.
I don't like speaking ill of fellow Republicans and of leadership.
I'm a military guy.
I get it.
They are in charge.
But it's also up to them to lead us down this path to get this kind of stuff done, too.
Speaking of leadership, what do you see happening in the military right now?
I'm glad to hear you're back.
You're going to be on, I guess, the board at West Point.
I always laugh.
I see the pictures of Millie, and he's got awards like this.
Having never won a war, minor details.
And then you see Eisenhower, who won World War II, and he's got one little thing there.
What's happening in that?
Because it does seem, A, disgraceful.
And for so long, these people were beyond reproach because they were in the military.
respect someone's service, but also call out the nonsense or the activism that doesn't serve the objective of the United States military.
Obviously, like so many other things, the swamp there is pretty deep too.
Well, I think we're doing it as we speak.
I love the fact.
That we are talking about warfighting and getting back to warfighting and no more woke DEI stuff.
And like I said, I've been black for a very long time.
Really?
Like my whole life, dude.
Wait, wait.
Literally, like my whole life.
I wasn't sure if that was like that.
I'm going to get in so much fucking trouble.
You're good.
By the way, we should actually talk about the racing because it's like...
But then when someone else says, oh my god, Don Jr. said this to a black man, it was like, clearly we should be able to have those conversations.
That's what eliminates racism.
I'm not saying racism isn't still a problem.
In the country, it's just not the cause of and solution for all of life's problems.
This is camaraderie.
This is the military that I grew up in.
Yeah, we have fun.
Yeah, we're frank.
We're honest.
We can give each other a tough time without always being so damn offended all the time.
Well, because that's my rule, like with my friends, like, I'm like, yeah.
The second I stop breaking balls, that's when you're not my friend.
If I'm not breaking balls, that's when you actually have to start worrying that there's something amiss.
Yes.
And that's how we are as human beings.
And so our military, if you notice, the last few months, we're seeing a record of recruiting.
People are coming back to the military.
Young people wanting to serve.
Just in my district, I nominated 17 brave men and women to join the academies out of my district alone.
Just last week.
I'll talk to you about this later.
My son is actually, with the changes he's watching, he's thinking about doing that himself.
By the way, there was a time eight months ago.
I went to boarding school in central Pennsylvania, a place called the Hill School.
It was the number one feeder school to the Naval Academy and to West Point.
25% of my graduating class literally went to the Academy.
I know a lot of guys that did that.
I know a lot of guys that served.
And yet, eight months ago, I'd have said, no way.
Not because I don't love my country, but because I don't want you being led by a trans admiral who's only there because they're trans, not because they're actually leaders.
Like, I don't want my son's life.
Am I wrong?
You are so right.
No, you wouldn't do it.
You wouldn't have.
The conversations that we have behind closed doors with my friends.
Yeah, the amount of vets that I know that are fourth generation military, and they're like, I'd never let my kid do it.
You know, I think that's changing.
But that was a real thing, and it was as evidenced by the recruitment numbers.
Because people want to serve this country.
Young people want to serve this country.
If a leader sends you to war or sends you to go somewhere, it's for a damn good reason or for a damn good cause.
And you trust that.
But if we only need us, this is a break in case of emergency type scenario.
And by the time we are deployed, we are kicking ass and taking names.
That's the whole point of the military.
We have that posture again.
Patriotism.
I've noticed this last Memorial Day and over the course of the past few months, patriotism is cool again.
It was always cool.
It was always cool, but now it's back.
It's back in the sense of when I drive around and I have an American flag, especially every day on election year, I have a Ford F-250, and I have an American flag fly out the back of it, especially when we won.
And the people that are honking their horns.
People that are excited.
People are excited about no longer kneeling for the flag, standing up, believing in something.
You know, American exceptionalism.
Like, we are so back.
That sentiment.
That's why people are signing up to serve again.
And then I'll tell you this too.
The warfighting posture is changing.
The advent of Space Force.
Brilliant.
Because we're moving away from kinetic operations.
We're moving more to UAV.
We're moving more to cybersecurity and AI.
The fact that we are embracing this, we need young, smart people to lead the fight for the future.
And it's going to be far more cerebral than it was before.
This is why it's so important.
And I hope your boy, let me know.
I mean, he needs to go to West Point, too, by the way.
I don't know He was looking at Navy But I was like You don't want him going boating.
What are you doing?
You live in Florida.
You go boating every weekend.
Do something a little bit different.
Change it up.
Talk for a second about Pete Hegseth.
Because, I mean, man, you see the attacks on him, which means, obviously, you're over the target, right?
And I'm biased because he's a friend, and I've known him, you know.
For years, through New York and everything like that.
What do you see there?
So it's really...
So, this is obviously a shift from what we've seen traditionally from Secretary of Defenses.
And I'm here for it.
You have a guy that is a warfighter that is under the age of 111 years old, like most of these guys are.
He's young, and he is a person that understands the warfighter and what we need.
I love the fact that we're changing bases back to what they were called.
Who cares about what the name of a base is?
It's the history of the base.
And there's a reason why it's that way.
And by the way, guys like...
You've been for it, bragging for it, bragging again?
I didn't know what they even changed it to.
I still don't know what they changed it to.
I thought of the question.
I'm like, what was it?
Fort Liberty or some bullshit?
Fort Hood was funny.
This doesn't make sense.
And I used to shoot down there because I was a competitive shooter, so they'd have matches there with high power and all that stuff.
So I was like, Like, of course it's still for a break.
Correct.
Correct.
But you have a guy that's not a part of the swamp.
The best question was during his testimony that he gave when Elizabeth Warren asked him if he would, like the generals before him, would he go work for, we go lobby for the defense firm and he goes, well, I'm not a general.
Yeah.
She was flabbergasted.
She's like, oh my gosh.
This is a break from that tradition because when you're a three and a four star general, you know what you are?
You're also a politician.
By the way, you only get to that point.
The actual war fighters never get there because they're unwilling to play the game.
Exactly.
They'll speak their mind.
And then they go home.
To get there, you gotta be a politician, but when you have a strong president, we Four-star generals have a hard time doing that.
And therefore, they don't execute the agenda of the leader of the free world.
And I think that's what Pete is doing.
He is executing the agenda of the president, which is the whole point as the Secretary of Defense.
You mentioned UAVs, all the stuff.
You see some of these videos coming out of Russia, Ukraine with the drones.
You flew Apache helicopters.
I know guys that, you know, like whether I graduated high school from them Talk about drones.
Real men.
Some of these guys were like, hey man, if we flew over some of these airspaces, even in these $100 billion planes, we could be out of the air in 30 seconds.
Talk about the dynamic of the change in warfare.
Because I think a big part of what we need is to be prepared to do that, peace through strength.
But it does feel like...
He's like, well, he was a fighter pilot, so 30 years later he still loves planes and wants this, but they may not actually be as relevant.
When a $400 drone can take out a $100 million aircraft, that's a problem.
Yes.
As a helicopter pilot, probably even worse because you don't even have the advantage of speed.
You're not injecting.
You're not injecting.
By the way, you could.
You're going out, but you don't.
That was like the old Polish joke.
It was like a helicopter with an ejector.
You know what?
Probably not ideal.
Not ideal.
You know, what do you see changing in that?
Because, I mean, it is—you see some of these videos right now, and there's a soldier, he's unarmed, he's wounded, and he's lying on a field, and there's a drone hovering over him, and you know it's just a matter of time.
It's like having, you know, a thousand snipers on a battlefield in World War II.
You don't know who any of them are, but one of them has their crosshairs trained on you that whole time.
That's a big change.
Are we adapting fast enough?
Because it feels like the evolution of warfare in the last couple years over there.
Has changed entirely.
You know, a $300 drone is taking out 20 guys in a tank or armored personnel like that.
Are we adapting fast enough for this?
It's changed remarkably.
So keep in mind, I mean, I was in Iraq war, you know, almost 20 years ago.
Yeah.
And so from where it was, from where warfighting was then when I got to West Point to where it is now post-911, it's unbelievably different.
We can shift, and this country can do anything.
We are still the greatest fighting force in the world, but we have to prioritize the modernization.
Also, we have to understand this, too.
Having legacy pilots and having legacy practitioners that understand the ways of the old or how we get the ways of the new.
So you need to have a little bit of both, but there needs to be a decided turnover as to the direction of the military moving forward.
Right now, we're getting that leadership.
But before, we weren't getting that leadership.
You see, we would continue to pay Lockheed because, well, we had this contract for the F, fill in the blank, and we were promised that it's going to last for the next 20 years.
What if we don't need it anymore?
Well, now we have a Secretary of Defense and the President that's going to say, we don't need it anymore.
How can we best use those funds?
Well, at the same time, making sure that we stay trained up and ready to go, you know, if at a moment's notice, if need be.
But right now, the process is we've got to modernize our force to ensure that we can fight the battles of the future, and it's not like it was 20 years ago.
And so again, a lot of AI, the advent of Space Force, a lot of satellite data, a lot of quant.
These are the kinds of things that we have to start modernizing, and we have to be deliberate about it.
We can't be the guys that are just waiting for it to happen to us, or when you see what China does first, or stick our finger in the air.
We've got to lead from the front on this stuff, and we are doing it now.
I'm glad to hear that.
I've got to ask you about James Comey.
When he put up there the...
Fell into total alignment while on a romantic walk on the beach.
I mean, give me a break.
86-47.
I mean, it felt like an obvious, you know, whether attack or, you know, a sanctioning of a potential attack of someone who's, by the way, been shot, you know, already and, you know, had another sniper in a, you know, in a bush, you know, two assassination attempts.
But, you know, it felt like an obvious attack against a, you know, from a former disgruntled Who knows better?
This isn't someone that's like, oh, I've heard this term before.
This was the head of the FBI.
And as incompetent as he was in those roles, as corrupted as he was, as partisan as he was, that can't be the case, especially when you look at the history of what they tried to do to my father.
How should we deal with these individuals from the deep state who, even after leaving office, continue to sort of undermine Handcuffs.
Handcuffs.
And I say that with passion, and I'm not kidding, nor am I being hyperbolic when I say that, because that is unacceptable.
Because I don't care how you feel about the current president that is our president.
That is the leader of the free world.
And so when you demean him and you undermine and you usurp his authority as somebody that knows better, as somebody that was in a position of high authority, what do you signal to the entire world?
You, in essence, are weakening us and you are the former head of the FBI.
The consequences for you should be far greater than any layman on the street that does the same thing.
You are, by definition, held to a higher standard.
And by the way, he got called in.
I don't think they put handcuffs on him, but he deserves it.
And also, he needs to be made an example of, we don't behave that way.
And by the way, that goes for us too.
Well, by the way, I have a feeling if I did it or if you did it or if anyone on our side of the bench did it.
So now we're talking.
Yes.
Yes.
I mean, the amount of people I know from, you know, January 6th who are peaceful, you know, they're standing inside the velvet ropes taking selfies.
It's like what happened to you.
Well, yeah, I don't even want to use myself as an example.
But it's true.
But, you know, we'd be in jail.
Yeah, they wanted to put me in jail for life and or the death penalty for Russia, Russia, Russia.
Everyone now knows it was bullshit.
Everyone knows.
But it didn't matter at the time.
And if they could get away with it, or if what they told Paul Manafort, which is basically, hey, if you give us Don Jr., you're out of trouble as long as we can put him in jail for 25 years.
We're playing a different game.
They have no moral compass, and they're willing to do anything to maintain power.
Bingo.
They have no moral compass.
we are principal, right?
We look at that and we say, well, we didn't win.
We lost.
We're winning it in four years.
We'll try again.
These people will cheat, they will maim, and they will steal to get whatever they want.
And so, look, I'm not saying that we stoop to their level.
You know, what's the saying?
If they go low, we go lower.
But sometimes you've got to fight fire with fire.
And this is something that my father taught me, one of the greatest men that I know.
My dad was always big on, look, you can put a smile on your face, you be a nice guy, you treat people kindly, but don't let anybody walk over you or else they will continue to do it in perpetuity.
So at some point, we have to fight back the exact same way that they would fight back against us.
So what is the role for the FBI and Congress in uncovering all of these scandals, really?
Whether it's this or, frankly, all of the other scandals that Comey was clearly the ringleader of before.
How do all of you guys work together to get to the bottom of what actually happened so that people understand and that there's actual accountability?
So, you know, the favorite word, Capitol Hill is investigation.
Yeah.
Investigation, investigation, investigation.
All you hear every day is we need more.
We need more investigations like we need a hole in our head.
What we need is we need results from said investigations.
Yeah.
We need transparency to the American people from said investigations.
Yeah, because the investigation is always just like a stall attack.
It just stops.
You do not have to deal with anything.
And then when I'm talking to Chris Ray on the House Judiciary Committee and he's lying to my face.
Basically lying to my face about the shooter that day in Butler.
And I'm listening.
I'm watching this guy literally sit there and lie to my face.
And the only thing he kept saying, well, is this under investigation?
We don't know.
Currently under investigation.
I can't answer that question because it's under investigation.
Yeah.
What are the results of the investigation?
And then what are the consequences?
Now, we can do that.
We can do that.
The issue that happens a lot of times is that we have these investigations.
It's filibustering.
Yeah.
And it goes through the midterms.
Yeah.
It goes through the next presidential cycle.
And then it switches hands from Republicans to Democrats and Democrats to Republicans, which is why we have to act now while we are in charge to get to the bottom of it.
And I'm not sure we could put them all in handcuffs.
What we can do is let the American public know the results of the investigation and let them decide.
Yeah.
And when you see Comey pitching a book and all these other guys getting on boards, you know, even if they're not walked out in handcuffs, I imagine there'd be a much more reluctance for these people to be promoted and given spots on.
You know, the pundits.
And then they do the opposite.
Other guys, like, it's like Brett Favre simply because he was willing to open his mouth.
And now he has nothing.
Now all of his endorsements are gone or this, that, and the third because maybe a few shady ideas, but the Court of Public Opinion spoke.
Because we got to the end of the investigation.
So I guess that's the same thing as it relates.
We touched on the border.
We've got it done.
But we're also dealing with Democrats.
We're dealing with the activist judges that are basically handcuffing ICE.
This was in the 70s.
As a political issue, a big deal.
People were like, no more of this border crap.
We want the criminals out.
They let in 13,000 murderers.
They let in 16,000 rapists.
You spread that out over.
You know, what, the 4,000 counties of America?
You know, hey, who doesn't want to, you know, five or six or ten, you know, rapists and murderers in their own county?
Like, how do we get that done, again, to make the legislative side enact this so that it's permanent?
Because, again, that's the problem, right?
The executive order's great.
Tom Homan's, like, central casting for this shit.
He's going to get done.
But, like, you know, you lose an election, like, they may just open it back up.
Against the will of the people because they can and because they're trying to stack elections for the future by bringing in dependents who aren't going to add value.
But we'll vote for the free stuff.
Correct.
And I'm in Texas.
So we felt the brunt of this.
And we saw what can happen when you just have a strong leader that signs a couple of executive orders and the border gets fixed.
You start seeing us being respected.
You start seeing us having a southern border.
But that shouldn't be political and it shouldn't be up to a president to do that.
It's got to be up to Congress and we've got to do our job.
Again, Congress hasn't been doing our job for decades, though, which is part of the problem.
And we have been running this country via executive fiat.
And now we have a president that's operating with common sense.
But what I'm discovering is that common sense is not so common depending on who the president is.
Or if you're even the president at all, we have no idea who's running the country.
So these are the conversations that I take to D.C. every single week.
And I just made a post about this a couple days ago about how do we codify what the president is doing now so they can't take it away from us in the future.
20 million people in our country illegally is absurd.
Enough fentanyl pouring into this country to kill every American five times is criminal.
It is absurd.
It's actually why they lost the election.
They don't want to admit that, but that's why.
But this shouldn't be about politics.
This is about American safety.
We as Congress have got to act codified.
And we can.
We can.
Get those other guys to do it, man.
Get it in there!
You ain't got to worry about me, brother.
How about this?
We're going to put you in a room with these guys one-on-one.
Do it like a celebrity boxing match in Congress.
You can beat some sense into them.
Byron and I will get it done at that point.
How do you see that all going?
I think Byron's doing pretty good.
I think Byron is doing great.
It really helps to have your dad's help.
He's such a great guy.
It's unbelievable.
Obviously, my dad endorsed Byron Donald for governor for Florida.
Huge help.
He is going to be one hell of a governor for Florida.
Well, Wesley, thanks for being here, man.
Thank you, brother.
Thank you for having me.
Great seeing you as always.
Get back to D.C. and get this thing done.
We've got to get it done.
Thank you very much for having me.
Always a pleasure.
Thank you.
Guys, thank you so much for tuning in.
I think that was awesome.
Wesley's a great guy.
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